"I can't keep up any more." The world of Future Shock is already here

[Bill Ryan]

No, don't be concerned: I'm fine. :)

But the rate at which information is coming at us all is NOT.

This thread is in The Human Condition (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?178-The-Human-Condition), but it might be under Technology (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?124-Technology), or The Internet (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?133-The-Internet). It actually started as a prospective post in PURSUING X: Marketing, money and manipulation in the Alternative Media (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104868-PURSUING-X-Marketing-money-and-manipulation-in-the-Alternative-Media) (an important thread, I'd contend) but then I thought it deserved its own thread... at least for the moment.

Here's the question. Who else feels the same thing?

I'd thought of putting it in the PURSUING X: Marketing, money and manipulation in the Alternative Media (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104868-PURSUING-X-Marketing-money-and-manipulation-in-the-Alternative-Media) thread, because a lot of this is about marketing.

To be more specific, the urgent, scramble-to-keep-up feeling that many content providers have (like researchers who upload regular YouTube videos, and/or do weekly podcasts) — that they have to compete. And for them, to compete means publishing more and more and MORE.

All these people are competing for YOUR attention. Can you feel it? :)

Here's the really big problem. I can't keep up — I have more YouTube videos 'downloaded for later' than I'll ever watch, simply being realistic — and I don't even have a family or an office job. So for most people, they have NO CHANCE.

And what that means is that even for those who are motivated to somehow keep in touch as best they can with whatever's happening, they only get tiny fragments. No in-depth analysis: and the tiny fragments they get might be the wrong fragments.

And carefully reading well-researched books from cover to cover? Forget it.

It means that very few people now have any deep understanding of many subjects. They just skip along the surface, like a flat stone skimming on water. Just read a few dozen YouTube comments, tweets, or Facebook posts. It's clear to see.

Despite the vast library all around us, most people know virtually nothing about anything. It's true.

This is all a signal-to-noise problem, of course. It'd be bad enough even if all the information that was hurtling at us was detailed, accurate, and high quality. But it's not. 95% (or more!) is facile, misleading, empty, shallow, or false.

And it's only going to get worse. Less would be more here. 'More' is NOT more. 'More' is actually becoming less and less.

For reference (apologies to those who are aware I've mentioned this several times now), we have Alvin Toffler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler)'s seminal and prophetic Future Shock (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Alvin%20Toffler%20-%20Future%20Shock.pdf), written in 1970.

He predicted that the rate of change of change itself would increase steadily, as would the sheer quantity of information inexorably coming at us — with little scope for us to be able to turn off the fire hose.

And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Who else is nearing this point? Do please share how you find yourself feeling.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Absolutely spot on Bill.

We have no chance. God knows within my circle I've tried, but to no avail.

Where does it all lead to. Personally I haven't got a clue but just standing back and watching all unfold and semi enjoying the ride.

What will be will be. Can we change it?

PS I work 50 hours per week. You can guess what I do in my spare time.

Viking

[Arak]

There is quite simple solution for this: 1st. It helps to understand how we are wired, pretty simple psychology you know. 2nd. Fomo, dopamin addiction, positive feedback loops and especially ADT. 3rd. When understanding these, start limiting online-time and the problems should start to vanish in a few days or so. 4th. But folks, be warned: It's pretty much the same like with any addiction; too easy to get back to old bad habits and be as / more addicted than before.

Stay safe and control your screen time!

[Ratszinger]

No, don't be concerned: I'm fine. :)

But the rate at which information is coming at us all is NOT.

And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Who else is nearing this point? Do please share how you find yourself feeling.


The wife and I retired and did just that. Stay at home, now with 26 cats feeling the overload of TMI (too much information). To disconnect further we rarely go out to eat but fix our own at home, we stopped going on vacations and neither of us have been to visit our respective families in many years and have no plans to visit soon. Mostly that is because of Facebook because quite honestly I know more about my family, much that I could have done without really and would rather not know just from that than I could ever gain from actually being there and visiting.

People say the technology shuts you down making one become nothing less than a twitchy hermit and perhaps it's true! It is no longer even necessary to get up and so much as walk to the Colliers or Britannica encyclopedias I have because that and more is right there at your finger tips with a few clicks!

I was looking through my own 'watch later' list and that alone is enough for a months worth of steady viewing so I certainly understand Bill. Not enough time in a day!

[Bill Ryan]

There is quite simple solution for this: 1st. It helps to understand how we are wired, pretty simple psychology you know. 2nd. Fomo, dopamin addiction, positive feedback loops and especially ADT. 3rd. When understanding these, start limiting online-time and the problems should start to vanish in a few days or so. 4th. But folks, be warned: It's pretty much the same like with any addiction; too easy to get back to old bad habits and be as / more addicted than before.
Stay safe and control your screen time!

Thanks! I fully agree. :thumbsup:

But this isn't about social media or smartphone addiction. That's another problem. :)

Here's an exact example. I can no longer keep up with Richard Dolan or Linda Howe. Let alone Alex Jones, or anyone who's commenting on 'Qanon'. (I abandoned 'Q' long ago. I want, and only have time for, clear, concise information. There's no time even for the good stuff, let alone cryptic, enticing, go-nowhere riddles.)

There's too much. It never used to be like this.

I'm not an addict. I'm just trying to keep abreast of the subjects I'm interested in. If I turned off my internet for a few days... I'd just be even further behind.

[Valerie Villars]

Boy, do I ever understand. I've been a voracious reader and doer for all of my life. I have a wide variety of interests and semi-talents and always enjoyed them. But, my books have always been my best friends.

Fast forward to an awakening five years ago. My quest to understand what had happened led me to the internet, and to this site, which is positive.

However, it (the internet) is threatening to be my undoing. It's to the point where I can't stand technology. There is so much going on and so much pertinent to what I went through that I am on brain overload. And to make it worse, my life blew up so a lot of what kept me busy is gone.

There are certainly enough things, aside from the internet, to keep me busy for many lifetimes, but part of the issue is having no one to talk to.

It's a great thread Bill. I have been struggling with this lately. I feel I am learning a tremendous amount, but not retaining things as I used to. That is distressing to me. I've always loved to learn.

I deliberately shut myself away from it for periods of time, but it's always there and hard to stay away because it's how the world communicates now. I really am getting to the point where I intensely dislike all of it.

I'm just not sure what to do about that. I deliberately don't have a cell phone for that reason, but it's not enough. I'm on overload.

Edit: I want to add that I have always kept hand written journals, written letters or typed them and visited book stores. All of that art seems to be escaping me now. And the thing is, those things are permanent. I have journals and drawings in books from relatives that are almost three hundred years old. What happens when we no longer have those things, to remind us of who we are?

[sunwings]

I gave up about five months ago, after five long hard years of going hammer and tongs at it. I keep telling myself you have to get back into it but I feel like I am standing by a fast flowing river and all these interviews, documentaries and videos are flowing past me and I have no idea when to jump back in and catch up with my previous flow.

My energy has gone. I used to read at least a book a week, go through 20 plus videos a day easily and not get tired but actually energised. Now i find myself watching old interviews I have watched before, nothing new. It does feel like information overload, I often ponder why it came to a halt, and if I can turn the wheels again, like I used to.

I really do miss the chase,:sherlock: the hunt for the truth.

[Bill Ryan]

I gave up about five months ago, after five long hard years of going hammer and tongs at it. I keep telling myself you have to get back into it but I feel like I am standing by a fast flowing river and all these interviews, documentaries and videos are flowing past me and I have no idea when to jump back in and catch up with my previous flow.

That's a perfect metaphor. If one follows a researcher or presenter (e.g. Richard Dolan or Linda Howe, in my own case), and one falls too far behind because they've accelerated their output, then one becomes demotivated to catch up.

There are far too many content producers who have zero understanding that this is what they're doing to their followers.

[Bob]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rHOjl4E1DVw/hqdefault.jpg

In any investigation Holmes needed to have a way to sort thru it all, sift what was obvious, key, "noise"/irrelevant..

"The Adventure of the Reigate Puzzle", was one of the 56 Sherlock Holmes short stories written by British author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. The Adventure of the Reigate Squires was first published in 1893.

We have immense opportunities with our members to bring forth useful data, something which helps us get thru interesting "stories" and find maybe some useful answers and dots for connecting..

[East Sun]

Eventually, it wont matter at all. And very soon. In the time we are here it is only brief second. Nothing really.

But we know that, deep down but we make up excuses for no good reason.

Even if we were to solve all the problems of the world, so what, what would we do then?

[Bill Ryan]

In his most recent 'Intelligent Disclosure' weekly livestream, Richard addresses me personally, but not by name. Go to 1:22:37.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnQJQYbRgMc
My reply:


Rich, listen. :) You may just LOVE doing what you're doing every week. And yes, you may not have been so engaged in this subject for years. I'm quite sure all that's true.

But if you did a live, on-stage presentation, and talked really fast non-stop for 6 hours, you'd really love it and be personally super-engaged as well. However, you might lose your audience somewhere along the way!

It's always okay to mention my name. Not a problem. It deserves to be discussed. It's important, and you're making mistakes. There's a phenomenon happening here which you may be unaware of.

And DO read Future Shock (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Alvin%20Toffler%20-%20Future%20Shock.pdf). That is, if you have enough time! :)

Your good friend and colleague ~ Bill

[Ernie Nemeth]

Since this society is set up for commerce, and since information is commercially valuable, this ever increasing flow of information is a threat to the establishment. The need to contain the threat is an endeavor of paramount importance because of the unpredictable nature of possible inventions, breakthroughs, and discoveries.

Since information cannot be fully throttled it must be handled in a different manner. One would be to mix false information in with the growing influx of data. Another would be to attempt to divert attention away from potentially dangerous information by using professional sceptics, talking heads with the official stance on all manner of topics, sensationalism of many stripes, entertainment, and many others to distract and occupy the public's mind.

Information today is mostly fluff anyway. A billion clamoring voices cannot be trusted to disseminate useful information.

Everyone is confused. No one knows enough to even discern the veracity of most claims, or be confident of any sort of universal truth, let alone assemble an entire model of reality. Our understandings are merely borrowed tidbits from strangers. No one knows the origin of our knowledge first hand - they inherit it, and trust that it has been verified and vetted by those in the know.

But everyone inherited the same knowledge, so even the 'authorities' could have massive blind spots and never be aware of it.

I do not know the answer. I can only say that truth feels right, no matter what others may say. It is best just to toss the rest aside.

And from what I can gather there is not much in this society that feels right.

It is the premise that guides comprehension. The premise in this society is to acquire tangible assets. That is what the information hurled at us reflects, no matter who the author.

The biggest picture has no dollar signs in it at all. If that were our premise the information would make more sense. It is the context we live that makes the information senseless. If our lives were sensible, the information would also be comprehensible.

[avid]

I was always a voracious reader, even throughout my lecturing career. Saved amazing books to re-read which fired my ‘awakedness’, people like Chet B Snow ‘Mass Dreams of the Future’ where instead of regression, subjects were ‘progressed’ into the future. Then came timeline research, and Dan Burisch’s ‘Looking Glass’ teasers, all mingled up with Serpo, Project Camelot and ultimately here and now.

Now I have to be more selective, even though retired, there are only so many hours in a day, I often read in the sleeping hours, it isn’t right. I am now aware of folk ‘fighting back’ scientifically which I admire immensely. They are having success utilising Tesla tech, it really is amazing.

It is exhausting being awake and aware now, as very few have time to rationalise what’s really going on, my older neighbours and friends have ‘sussed’ as they knew how it was before... The younger generations are almost oblivious, so terribly sad....

[onawah]

I've definitely been feeling a bit lost recently.
It's not just information overload, it's feeling almost like I have no internal point of reference anymore.
The worst part is, as Valerie said, not having anyone to talk to who comes close to sharing this reality (other than here on Avalon).
I wanted for so long to live in an intentional spiritual community, but spirituality has morphed into something so different for me since I became a conspiracy theorist starting with 911, that I think there would be a danger of feeling isolated in such a community now. It would have to be a combination spiritual/sustainable/conspiracy research community!
Fortunately, being an INFJ, it's not as hard for me as most to live alone, but it gets tedious at times.
The following is an excerpt from the Wingmakers material that I posted the other day on another thread.
(I've put it in red letters in that other post, so it can be found more easily; this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105287-The-Divine-Feminine&p=1263231&viewfull=1#post1263231 )
"The seeking of information is over. The seeking of a master, guru, religion, spiritual path, or wayshower is over. The seeking of objects of blame is over. The seeking of hidden information behind the dark forces is over. It is the expression of the Sovereign Integral consciousness and the deactivation of the suppression framework that becomes the focus of each individual in this new era."
That's in a thread I started entitled "The Divine Feminine starting here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105287-The-Divine-Feminine&p=1263231#post1263231
...But just after I started that thread, I began re-reading the Wingmakers material; specifically, the Fifth Interview with Dr. Neruda: https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf
...which is resonating with me a great deal more than it did when I first read it in 2014.
It was very prophetic of the incredible amount of change we have seen in the last 5 years, of humanity being corralled into an increasingly transhumanist paradigm.
I've just started feeling a bit like I'm coming around again, with a new orientation, and that material is helping.
Not that I agree with all of it, but enough of it, at least, to feel like I'm connecting more to something like what Don Juan Matus called the "assembly point", referred to here: http://eden-saga.com/en/the-assembly-point.html

The way forward may be this: "The WingMakers write about the heart virtues as the behavioral construct for this time, and how these words can be applied and lived, not simply held in the head as a worthy concept. Appreciation or gratitude, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding and valor or courage. It is the combination of nowness—being in the now—and applying these words in our behaviors. It’s being impeccable in this practice.”
(I also put those in red letters here in the other thread, in this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105287-The-Divine-Feminine&p=1263854&viewfull=1#post1263854

Perhaps the present glut of information isn't for the likes of old conspiracy theorists to keep up with, but for newcomers who won't feel inspired to go back to read the original research, and need something more timely to get them engaged. Though it's such a difficult field to pursue, with no many dots to connect before any of it seems plausible or comprehensible, I am not surprised that the younger generations are not showing much interest or enthusiasm--it's so hugely challenging.

( I don't intend to keep on including long excerpts in my posts, but I wanted to copy some of the material here on the forum in hopes others might be finding some solace in the material, and perhaps feeling prompted to discuss it. Not sure if The Divine Feminine is the right name for that thread anymore, though it was a good starting point, anyway... )

[DeDukshyn]

Time to buy a cottage in the woods, practice self sustenance, turn fully spiritual, and build a network of like-minded people.

When people stop getting caught up in the "drama", the "drama" will no longer drive reaction, and the insanity in the world that is created by a controlling few by wielding this "drama" to create the reaction, will cease to exist. The question is whether enough people can practicably do this to actually have that effect ... might still be a while yet. :)

Edit:
I believe that the rate of change increase (I fully see this and it has been a concern of mine for many years) will be a catalyst for great change. Either a great global spiritual enhancement (perhaps a memory / learning) to thrive in this new era of information (evolutionary), or, great technological trans-human advancements that will allow similar but through the physical itself.

Could possibly be a combination of both.

I can see this making a good movie ...

[Spellbound]

I've had a very hard time keeping up at work the last 20 years having gone through 3 mergers for which I currently work for the largest freight logistics company in the world, and it is only getting worse. Doing too much with too little. Unfortunately, the theme seems to be bigger, better, stronger, faster. Thing is...bigger isn't always better and people are merely dots on a spreadsheet.

Dave - Toronto

[AutumnW]

I feel I am stuck in the eye of an information tornado that just blew apart the tidy home of consensus reality. It may have been an illusion but it was cozy. I am trying to cope with all the alternative media cow pies flying by by ignoring most of them. Even though they're flying high in terms of audience doesn't mean they aren't bull****.

[Innocent Warrior]

Time to buy a cottage in the woods, practice self sustenance, turn fully spiritual, and build a network of like-minded people.

When people stop getting caught up in the "drama", the "drama" will no longer drive reaction, and the insanity in the world that is created by a controlling few by wielding this "drama" to create the reaction, will cease to exist. The question is whether enough people can practicably do this to actually have that effect ... might still be a while yet. :)

Edit:
I believe that the rate of change increase (I fully see this and it has been a concern of mine for many years) will be a catalyst for great change. Either a great global spiritual enhancement (perhaps a memory / learning) to thrive in this new era of information (evolutionary), or, great technological trans-human advancements that will allow similar but through the physical itself.

Could possibly be a combination of both.

I can see this making a good movie ...

The post of a crackpot. ;) Perfectly put.

Gaia TV and Pursuing X killed it for me anyway, my interest in what’s around had been wavering for a couple of years. I have more literature than I could possibly read in this lifetime and I’m blesssed to know some truly authentic people, so I’m not about to waste time wading through muddy waters looking for the latest ‘truth’.

@Richard Dolan Bill’s head is screwed on just fine. Interesting that your response was defensive, crude and reductive, since only the truth hurts in situations such as these.

[Astute]

I, too, can easily get sucked into this mad frenetic world of information overload. However I realised a short while ago that it is a choice that I am making if I allow myself to become too involved with it.

I have four lovely cats that I share my home with. I really like the peaceful serenity that cats usually exude. They spend much time, every day, in what I describe as a restful or even meditative state. However, for a few minutes every day they get really active/playful and are often seen 'chasing their own tail'. I suspect if they could articulate to me why they were doing something that is obviously so futile then they would tell me that they found chasing their tail fun. I see a lesson for me there... they don't frantically chase the unobtainable for a disproportionate amount of time and (I believe) they know why they are doing it!

When I was younger I used to dislike going to restaurants where there was a buffet. I never felt like I had eaten as wholesomely at a buffet as I did in a regular meal. There were too many bite-sized delicacies that were attractive to the eye but when combined on a plate as 'a little bit of everything' they didn't complement each other and create the feeling of satisfaction of a well balanced meal with fewer items. Nowadays when I am faced with a buffet I am selective in what I choose. I try to create the best meal I can from a few of the offerings and deliberately try and ignore the existence of many of the available items. I find buffets more enjoyable as a consequence (but still prefer those restaurants that offer a menu choice of 'complete' meals). I see offerings of 'truth' available on the internet today in a similar way. There are too many buffets out there and not enough restaurants when it comes to finding out 'truth' about a particular subject.

I am currently not engaged in a full time job and have complete control over how I spend my days. Throughout the 24 years of my last full time job (as a teacher) I witnessed the increasing flow of information that I was supposed to keep abreast of in connection with that job. Very little of that information was either helpful or useful to the core of my job but it was time consuming (wasting) to keep up with. I get the impression that other jobs have experienced a similar increase in this constant flow of 'information'. I have a hunch that this is no accident (although I have no evidence to support this). It makes sense to me that societal engineers don't want people to be able to reflect on anything of importance. "Keep the workers busy in the rat race so as they can't see what is really going on" may well be their maxim. I see this creeping into the flow of information now available on the internet as well!

Since I don't have to make any decisions/ choices (in real time) with much of the information that I can access online it isn't actually important to me to 'keep up' with what information is out there. To pick one particular example of current affairs information available, I have 'followed' this Q phenomena for the last few months. It is massively time consuming to pick through it and decipher if it is genuine or fake. I can make very compelling arguments for either side. Similarly I can make very compelling arguments for the case that Trump is a free agent and is taking down the deep state or that Trump is an agent of one faction of the deep state and is working to fulfill their agenda in taking down another faction of the deep state. The truth is I don't know which is true and on a personal level it doesn't actually matter in the end which is true. I am responsible for my own choices and my own actions and my own state of mind.

Like my cats, I can choose to chase my tail all day if I want, but also like my cats I choose not to and prefer a little of that activity from time to time because it is fun!

[Daozen]

How much of this information do we need? I've stayed away from the alt media for the past few months, and I'm still here. The elite think in terms of decades. So why are they encouraging us, through their alt media stooges, to think in terms of weeks and days?

Looking back, in retrospect, how much 'latest intel' info over the past year was dud? 95%?

If the carousel is too fast, jump off it, and walk in the forest. Mayhap the dark mountains are calling you again, Bill.

[Phoenix1304]

Hi Bill and Avalonians

Thread title sums up my feeling over the past several years.

Some of it is just surviving 60+ years on this planet, when I started work there weren’t even electric typewriters, let alone computers, I can remember setting up a VCR for my mother who was completely overwhelmed trying to keep up with the tech!. The accelerated rate of change for our generation has been even more confounding, I tried to keep up, but once I left the workplace without the 20 somethings to keep me in the loop, I too find myself struggling to keep up. And it’s the tech. that makes possible the information overload.

On the one hand, I am thrilled by it, encyclopaedias at the fingertips, access to a customised education of my choice, being able to virtually walk the streets of just about anywhere on the planet is just so fantastic, though hardly thrilling to the young. It used to take six weeks for me to exchange letters with my family when I lived in Australia! When I saw the movie 2001 in my youth (when we were still on wired landlines)I was blown away by the scene where he speaks, basically, on Skype to his family on earth and now we have that tech in our hands. We’ve seen sci fi become reality and a quantum leap in the rate of change. It’s been awesome, but then there’s the downside.

The widely used Wikipedia now revealed to be a completely unreliable source of information. The purveyors of disinformation now have the ultimate medium with the internet. You can’t be sure of the veracity of anything you see or read. The camera has never lied so much! In the fields of our interest so many people are jumping on the bandwagon and making a business of it, I actually find it nauseating.

You’re quite right that Dolan and Howe are losing audience like me, I skip past their tweets inviting me to view yet another hour and a half vid, too often discussing questions I’ve asked for decades and not providing any more interesting speculation than I can come up with myself. Greer lost me after Sirius and the Dark Journalist’s long treatises on Ouspensky, Gurdjieff, Steiner and Theosophy, also explored in my youth, just got boring. Thankfully, I’ve learnt to trust my nose with the likes of Goode, Wilcock, Fulford and Q. Like others, my energy these days is too precious to waste.

I don’t mean to sound like a know-it-all because who could, in a thousand lifetimes, read, view or digest it all? An all-encompassing ‘Knowing’ I suggest is something quite other and of a spiritual nature, that cannot be written or explained, only known.

It would be fair to say, I’ve simply lost interest in keeping up. Maybe I’m one of those Mr Toffler predicted would retreat to a corner and focus on what’s nearby, but perhaps there’s a spiritual evolution happening for a lot of us, where all of the noise becomes irrelevant.

On that note, may I leave you all with my quote of the moment that comes (allegedly, how can we know anything for sure :)) from Long Chen Pa, it bangs a gong in me in any case.

“Since everything in Life is but an experience, perfect in being what it is; having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection; one may well burst out in laughter.”

Happy Holidays y’all.

[Ratszinger]

I've been watching this guy here for some time now and find his channel deeply therapeutic and relaxing. Somewhere along the way I think we all forgot how to live, well, how to really live in touch with the earth. I love this channel for his bringing me back at least in my mind for a time even if I don't get much time to go out and play in the dirt myself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE

[Deux Corbeaux]

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Indeed, Here's the really big problem. I can't keep up.

Fill-in for Politics any other thread topic.

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[norman]

It's the "left-brain" thing that can't keep up, and feels it's skimming. I worry less and less about that aspect now. I have a feeling it's supposed to happen, before we can really get out of this so called matrix.

My intuition is growing as my analytical brain is fading away, or failing to keep up. I'm still on line and sniffing or skimming but I could very easily abandon the internet if not for the email service I use.

I suppose I'm quite lucky in that I don't have much of an intellectual ego. Nowadays, I'm happiest when I have an 'empty head'.

[Hervé]

Yep, I too gave up on watching/listening to videos a while back, having "watched" the "Alt News" go from campfire stories, once a year to every:


Semester
trimester
month
two weeks
week
couple of days
day
hour (CNN-loop type)
24/7 live chat/streaming...

In olden days, the struggle was about finding a publisher with guts enough to publish some "controversial" author... now it's: "How not to drown in a sea oceans of non-sense?"

It used to be that factual research set milestones on the road to "truth"... now these milestones are replaced with wandering sand dunes and mirages...

[Pam]

There is quite simple solution for this: 1st. It helps to understand how we are wired, pretty simple psychology you know. 2nd. Fomo, dopamin addiction, positive feedback loops and especially ADT. 3rd. When understanding these, start limiting online-time and the problems should start to vanish in a few days or so. 4th. But folks, be warned: It's pretty much the same like with any addiction; too easy to get back to old bad habits and be as / more addicted than before.
Stay safe and control your screen time!

Thanks! I fully agree. :thumbsup:

But this isn't about social media or smartphone addiction. That's another problem. :)

Here's an exact example. I can no longer keep up with Richard Dolan or Linda Howe. Let alone Alex Jones, or anyone who's commenting on 'Qanon'. (I abandoned 'Q' long ago. I want, and only have time for, clear, concise information. There's no time even for the good stuff, let alone cryptic, enticing, go-nowhere riddles.)

There's too much. It never used to be like this.

I'm not an addict. I'm just trying to keep abreast of the subjects I'm interested in. If I turned off my internet for a few days... I'd just be even further behind.

Ask yourself this. Is the issue that there is so much more vital information or has the information been reformatted, regurgitated and repeated and reinvented, and sometimes modified in new and exciting forms so that those that present it can maintain their presence in whatever area they have established themselves? In simpler and starker terms, have the presenters changed their focus from strictly presenting information to presenting themselves by presenting information, whether it is vital, new or otherwise? At the end of the day, this fits so well with my theory that we are living in the days of corruption of systems. They will continue to corrupt until they implode upon themselves or until people stand up and revolt. I suspect it will take be the first option. How long will that take? Who knows.

Addressing your OP:


And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Is this really such a bad thing? At the end of the day being present in the moment with the small things of ones personal existence and know what one needs to know. You know the old cliche, we only have this moment. The kind of information that many of have interest in really isn't essential to everyday life. Is it really healthy to become frustrated and maybe a bit anxious because we can't keep up with everything, even though we acknowledge much of it is repeat, sensationalized or outright false? Is that feeling that I don't have enough time to indulge in this activity more and cover all of it a bit of an addiction or at least a compulsion? Would a possible compromise be to allow ourselves a certain amount of time to research information and then stick with the most reliable sources? Doing that we would have to mentally accept that it is simply not going to be possible to look at all the information out there on the chosen topic.

I was listening to a Joseph P. Farrell talk yesterday and I couldn't help but notice how many times he tempted the listener with the "member only" information. He would talk a small amount about a topic and then refer to the "members only", payed site where one could get more information. So what was once given freely is now monetized, and where money enters the picture there will always be the temptation of corrupting the info or dishing it out slowly to keep the viewers coming. I think that falls under the category of monetizing information.

[Pam]

Hi Bill and Avalonians

Thread title sums up my feeling over the past several years.

Some of it is just surviving 60+ years on this planet, when I started work there weren’t even electric typewriters, let alone computers, I can remember setting up a VCR for my mother who was completely overwhelmed trying to keep up with the tech!. The accelerated rate of change for our generation has been even more confounding, I tried to keep up, but once I left the workplace without the 20 somethings to keep me in the loop, I too find myself struggling to keep up. And it’s the tech. that makes possible the information overload.

On the one hand, I am thrilled by it, encyclopaedias at the fingertips, access to a customised education of my choice, being able to virtually walk the streets of just about anywhere on the planet is just so fantastic, though hardly thrilling to the young. It used to take six weeks for me to exchange letters with my family when I lived in Australia! When I saw the movie 2001 in my youth (when we were still on wired landlines)I was blown away by the scene where he speaks, basically, on Skype to his family on earth and now we have that tech in our hands. We’ve seen sci fi become reality and a quantum leap in the rate of change. It’s been awesome, but then there’s the downside.

The widely used Wikipedia now revealed to be a completely unreliable source of information. The purveyors of disinformation now have the ultimate medium with the internet. You can’t be sure of the veracity of anything you see or read. The camera has never lied so much! In the fields of our interest so many people are jumping on the bandwagon and making a business of it, I actually find it nauseating.

You’re quite right that Dolan and Howe are losing audience like me, I skip past their tweets inviting me to view yet another hour and a half vid, too often discussing questions I’ve asked for decades and not providing any more interesting speculation than I can come up with myself. Greer lost me after Sirius and the Dark Journalist’s long treatises on Ouspensky, Gurdjieff, Steiner and Theosophy, also explored in my youth, just got boring. Thankfully, I’ve learnt to trust my nose with the likes of Goode, Wilcock, Fulford and Q. Like others, my energy these days is too precious to waste.

I don’t mean to sound like a know-it-all because who could, in a thousand lifetimes, read, view or digest it all? An all-encompassing ‘Knowing’ I suggest is something quite other and of a spiritual nature, that cannot be written or explained, only known.

It would be fair to say, I’ve simply lost interest in keeping up. Maybe I’m one of those Mr Toffler predicted would retreat to a corner and focus on what’s nearby, but perhaps there’s a spiritual evolution happening for a lot of us, where all of the noise becomes irrelevant.

On that note, may I leave you all with my quote of the moment that comes (allegedly, how can we know anything for sure :)) from Long Chen Pa, it bangs a gong in me in any case.

“Since everything in Life is but an experience, perfect in being what it is; having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection; one may well burst out in laughter.”

Happy Holidays y’all.

Phoenix1304, I just wanted to personally say how much I appreciated this post. I have to admit, I have let go of so much of these things that used to occupy so much of my time and mental energy. Life is in this moment, there is so much more satisfaction for me in watching wasps build there nests or a caterpillar it's cocoon, or the hummingbirds feeding from a flower. For me the compulsion of trying to figure things out is entering the acceptance that I am not going to figure things out. I have channeled my endless curiosity into observing the natural world, and into learning new skills.

I have decided that whatever is coming is coming. If it seems to not be beneficial to the majority on the planet and there is something I can do about it, I will. I have made that commitment, now why do I need to worry about it, why strive to figure it out. How well have so many of these so called experts done in figuring it out? I can't count the number of times in the past that I let someone and their supposed prediction or deduction skills, or their interpretation of ancient wisdom influence me to make a decision that was against my best interest, I no longer want or need that influence. I have learned to respect my own intuitive self, and right or wrong, I'm going with that.

[greybeard]

There was a French Mathematician who worked out the forever accelerating rate of change--inventions etc.
I cant remember his name or exactly what he said--perhaps some one can supply that information
To the best of my memory this is the precursor to massive change.

Perhaps Herve can recall.

Chris

[yelik]

A desire to understand the truth with ever increasing volumes of partial or deceptive information is like a self-replicating virus and conundrum to the mind – especially truth seekers.
Hopefully the masses will eventually start to reject certain technologies that ruin our mind


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st-Ti1FhutM



https://www.rt.com/usa/446130-screen-time-kids-study/

[Praxis]

To Phoenix,

I would like to suggest that wikipedia is a valuable resource.

What it represents is the common understanding of the mass person of events. It basically is a reflection of the official versions of things.
Just look at JFK page and look for the part where he gets murdered. Clearly it is pushing the official version.

But this is valuable because it is what the narrative is for most people.

The problem is each person is in their own tribe(Q, CNN, Fox, Alex Jones, Repub, Dem, Socialist, Fascist, etc) and each person that is producing content is trying to create their narrative for their group.
This leads to the problem that Bill brings up in this post. The treadmill of content. It is because these people are trying to stay relevant in their narrative and also make money, because lest we not forget you have to pay to live on this planet of your birth.
This is one thing I think Bill might consider: Maybe Dolan is tired of barely scraping by and is trying out another means of ROI.

And it is a shame. Content is more ephemeral and means much much less. We value creativity only for the dopamine that it gives because of the newness but once the newness passes we derive no more drug from it. So we look for that next sweet sweet hit.

Which Again I want to bring up the case of this Forum being used by MrGray to do exactly what Bill is talking about with Dolan.

"Stock market gyrations, Google’s China fire. My Take"

That last My take is supposed to be a link which takes you to read this

"What is going on in the stock market?

The volatility and price swings of shares just does not ring true to this veteran market watcher. The year-end market moves this year defy logic. As many economic ##reports — while always questionable, but the only barometer used by the Street — show things are still better than the numbers from the Obama era economic malaise, ##they seem to fall on
deaf ears.

This type of volatility has to be coming from institutional investors since the gyrations are so violent and sudden. I don’t think the incoming Democratic-controlled ##House is the root, since markets prefer divided government as they’re less likely to get any meaningful regulations through Congress.

Fed chairman Jay Powell needs to step aside and let his previous rate hike work through the economy and see where we stand in six months. Since there are words to ##that effect the Fed will more likely raise rates next week and that is baked into the market, but the language in the press conference will have greater impact.

One theory I believe is that the black box computer trading programs may have reach a critical level where the algorithms control far more shares than human ##decision makers, which gives you markets swing back and forth with more than 500 points in less than an hour on very little news.

Many market pros have their own interpretations, which are rooted in the past, but I think this market is being honed to towards more non-traditional sources of ##“news”. While veteran market makers would here rumors that could create price swings but there was discretion. Now these algorithms may take “rumors” or fake news ##with more seriously
without discernment.

Does anyone else find it odd that hours after Google CEO Sundar Pichai testified in front of the House Judiciary Committee on a host of issues including the search ##giant developing a censored product for China a fire develops in its offices there.

Breaking: Fire breaks out in Raycom Info Tech Park, which houses Google’s office, in the Zhongguancun technology hub in Beijing, China.

https://twitter.com/PMBreakingNews/status/1072705722746585088📁

Was the order given to cover tracks on the program called Dragonfly, which was a government-approved search engine for the Chinese market, which is heavily ##censored by Google for access to the market.

On Tuesday Pichai was questioned numerous times during his testimony of censored search. Each time he answered with a variation of “We have no plans at this time ##to launch in China.”

Perhaps that comment is now true since the fire has pushed back the launch of any product."


He has admitted that he is doing this and linking on this site to get traffic to then have a passive income off that site and the through traffic.

Is that what this is about at Avalon?
Should we all make sites then instead of posting our thoughts here to engage others, we just post links to our WEBZONE?

[greybeard]

This is scary.

Technological singularity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The technological singularity (also, simply, the singularity) is the hypothesis that the invention of artificial superintelligence (ASI) will abruptly trigger runaway technological growth, resulting in unfathomable changes to human civilization.

According to this hypothesis, an upgradable intelligent agent (such as a computer running software-based artificial general intelligence) would enter a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new and more intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing an intelligence explosion and resulting in a powerful superintelligence that would, qualitatively, far surpass all human intelligence.

Stanislaw Ulam reports a discussion with John von Neumann "centered on the accelerating progress of technology and changes in the mode of human life, which gives the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue". Subsequent authors have echoed this viewpoint.

I. J. Good's "intelligence explosion" model predicts that a future superintelligence will trigger a singularity.

Emeritus professor of computer science at San Diego State University and science fiction author Vernor Vinge said in his 1993 essay The Coming Technological Singularity that this would signal the end of the human era, as the new superintelligence would continue to upgrade itself and would advance technologically at an incomprehensible rate.

Four polls, conducted in 2012 and 2013, suggested that the median estimate was a 50% chance that artificial general intelligence (AGI) would be developed by 2040–2050.

In the 2010s, public figures such as Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk expressed concern that full artificial intelligence could result in human extinction. The consequences of the singularity and its potential benefit or harm to the human race have been hotly debated.

[Satori]

I think something Denzel Washington said near the end of the above video is very much worth repeating: "To get what you've never had, you have to do what you've never done."

I read that in a self-help, inspirational, positive-mental attitude book of some title many years ago. It stuck with me, along with a few other words and thoughts of wisdom. I cannot say that I acted on that thought as much or as often as I should or could have. Maybe I did as best as I am capable of. Maybe not. Who is to say, but perhaps ourselves?

Which makes me think of another important point, to quote another concept I picked up along the way: "It's not what you know that matters, it's what you do with what you know." We should all ask ourselves; have we acted on what we know and done what we can and should do? Have we kept our minds and actions on the things we can and should do, and off the things we cannot or should not do?

Here's to peace and prosperity to all.

[Caliban]

Besides the endless flow of information on mainstream and non-mainstream topics, every job now requires much more capacity to accelerate. For example, the bids I work on, while 10-12 years ago we'd get at least two weeks to submit, now we're lucky if we get four or five days. With the acceleration of our daily lives due to the internet and smart phones, the expectation on workers has gone through the roof.

While there used to be some pleasure in work--even boring work can give you a small high if you feel it was a job well done--that seems to have disappeared. It's now mostly a feeling of relief that you "got done" what you needed to.

At least with media we can still turn it OFF. The sad thing is, computers and internet may have sped up our working lives -- but they've also led to less satisfaction, more energy drain, and even demoralization of much of the labor force, i.e., Us.

[Ratszinger]

I think something Denzel Washington said near the end of the above video is very much worth repeating: "To get what you've never had, you have to do what you've never done."


This triggered me because it's a near paraphrase of some of the things Weinstein supposedly said to the women like, J. Lawrence and others that say he assaulted them sexually which makes me think it is probably some teaching from acting classes. Interesting as I missed that part of the video. I must have been getting my water for coffee at that time I guess. Thanks

[AutumnW]

Phoenix1304,

You can definitely see the bind honest researchers are in. They feel they have to compete with Gaiia tv videos and the YouTube-sphere.
The brain's main function is to act as a reducing valve t protect us from random chaos that serves no purpose puside of short term stimulation/entertainment.

We are constantly encouraged to 'expand our minds' and 'consider endless possibilities' and withhold judgement. At the same time we are to be skeptical to the point of paranoia of ALL authority structures and all individuals within them.

And the mainstream media is one of those structures. They used to vet a lot of crap, but they also filtered out, (basically had a war with) reality. Consensus reality has taken a huge hit and is reforming.

The collective unconscious is going through vast changes and is grappling with alternative media carnival barkers and hucksters attempting to fill a void. There is great unease.

I have taken a break from the online world recently and it feels good. I have become more and more resistant to anybody point g their fingers screaming, "it's all lies. I have the truth." Hmmmm...no.

[ramus]

It's amazing that you started this thread , I've been thinking about quitting the web sites for a while. I thought it was just me nothing has changed, the Intel is joke,the financial crash, the disclosure, Trump draining the swamp, all looks like HOPE PORN . There seemed to be more meaning to it all when we were waiting for Nbiru, when we we were worrying about our survival, when that turn out be be the biggest hoax of all time. I was never on board to the end of the world scenario but it gave purpose to our gathering.
So instead of slowing down to understand it all, it all sped up. I like many here I have a library of books that would take a life time to read, I keep telling my daughter when I die don't throw the books away, read them.

I remember Jake Simpson talking about the tech that the PTB have. I have felt sped-up for at least 6 years or more. I find my self upset with those who can't or refuse to see the realty that i have come to know ,then I have to question myself why. I believe we've been sped up by this tech or that we're going thru the middle of the Galactic Plane and the vibrational level has increased, or a myriad of other reasons, I feel something that I can't explain, it an urgency that i can't define. I do believe that this sensation is being created. It's being imposed on us not generated my us.
Future Shock yes, on steroids. Is this purposeful .. is there an agenda ?

P.S. there are those out there that hope I would quit the site ......it's hope porn .. sorry.

[Satori]

I think something Denzel Washington said near the end of the above video is very much worth repeating: "To get what you've never had, you have to do what you've never done."


This triggered me because it's a near paraphrase of some of the things Weinstein supposedly said to the women like, J. Lawrence and others that say he assaulted them sexually which makes me think it is probably some teaching from acting classes. Interesting as I missed that part of the video. I must have been getting my water for coffee at that time I guess. Thanks

If Weinstein said that, and I do not question that he did, he perverted its original meaning and intent. In the video, D. Washington said that his wife brought the saying to his attention.

[Eagle Eye]

Too much information to handle and it keep growing everyday. We all want more information to bring together the pieces of the big picture, but instead we are getting 90% off junk everyday and its getting hard to filter it. There is a purpose in this, because groups are being funded to spread disinformation or just are misguided to do it without them knowing, in the end everyone wants to get paid for the work they do and those who have great amounts control the big influence groups.

So my personal rule so far is, avoid mainstream opinion and avoid big groups they all are on the eye of the storm of those in control, there are exceptions in this but I am speaking in general. The mainstream opinion is what shapes the reality of the majority, but the reality isn't it, or better its far from it.

[AutumnW]

How much of this information do we need? I've stayed away from the alt media for the past few months, and I'm still here. The elite think in terms of decades. So why are they encouraging us, through their alt media stooges, to think in terms of weeks and days?

Looking back, in retrospect, how much 'latest intel' info over the past year was dud? 95%?

If the carousel is too fast, jump off it, and walk in the forest. Mayhap the dark mountains are calling you again, Bill.

It's really necessary, Daozen. Am in total agreement. I am spending much more time watching things like art history videos,etc..

Letting go of incessantly pursuing "the truth," provides a small crack in the edifice through which a few small truths are able to quietly squeeze through, under the radar of our conceptual biases.

[waves]

.....And it's only going to get worse. Less would be more here. 'More' is NOT more. 'More' is actually becoming less and less.....

.....And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Who else is nearing this point? ...

The worst part for me is that after all this very dedicated diligence for so long I not only don't have answers, I have a massively bigger pile of questions.

All I've really achieved is confirming a huge number of suspicions about what isn't true (ie, like vaccines really are as bad as I suspected, history has been lied about...) and it's been very satisfying to have lived outside the box refusing to take the bait in many ways my whole life and to find out I was so right to do so.

But yes, I'm starting to realize I'm not going to get those definitive answers to the big questions no matter how many more great thinkers and questioners I try to keep up with.

I'm also not going to change the world and it might not even be a noble cause to help push anything or anybody any different way than the path they're on. Lots of that are religious guilt trip remnants.

So yes, I'm slowing down the research and being more in nature and creativity - despite feeling more a heightened state of vulnerability and danger than ever before here in CA - and definitely letting go and returning to simple and letting things be.

I suspect - anyway - that the best thing I can do both for myself and in contribution to the continuum my consciousness may be inseparable from is also the easiest thing to do - live every day reinforcing the body and spirit strengthening practices that do no harm, that create and that feel expansive and some form of growth - all different forms of love.... AND continue to practice staying alert and out of traps, addictions, spells and spirit degrading temptations both mental and physical.

I'm really glad I took the time to get lot smarter, but yes it's time to do less of that and more of enjoying the fruits of all that labor.

[Bill Ryan]

When chatting with an online friend today, I coined the term 'video fatigue'. I thought it was quite apt. :)

But there are various kinds of 'fatigues'. In listing them, I intend NO disrespect to the sometimes literally tireless efforts of some researchers who have been working very hard to solve some deep mysteries. (Some are deeper than others, of course.)


'Q' fatigue. (That set in for me about 10 months ago. Not a joke.)
9/11 fatigue. That's more serious. That NEEDS good research — of course. But I no longer pay too much attention to new 9/11 videos, unless I'm sold that something previously unknown actually has been unearthed.
'We're-all-going-to-ascend-next-month' fatigue. That set in for me, solidly, on 22 Dec, 2012. (And I was pretty fatigued before that, too.)
Nibiru fatigue. I really do have that now. A few years ago, I was very interested, and was fairly persuaded by some of the circumstantial evidence. Now, I no longer pay attention to Nibiru discussions.
Trump fatigue. That's related to 'Q' fatigue. I was pretty excited (even elated) when Trump was elected. While it's as plain as day that Hillary would have been almost infinitely worse, I'm no longer sure that Trump is a hero who's in full control of everything and (as Q' insists) has a surefire plan that's to be blindly trusted. (I also have to say, I sincerely hope 'Q' is right. But I'm fatigued from waiting.)
SSP fatigue. I know the Secret Space Program is a reality. What else is there to talk about?

This is definitely an incomplete list. But I thought I'd offer it, as it is, to prompt more suggestions from others. Please do share them.

:)

[Smell the Roses]

How much of this information do we need? I've stayed away from the alt media for the past few months, and I'm still here. The elite think in terms of decades. So why are they encouraging us, through their alt media stooges, to think in terms of weeks and days?

Looking back, in retrospect, how much 'latest intel' info over the past year was dud? 95%?

If the carousel is too fast, jump off it, and walk in the forest. Mayhap the dark mountains are calling you again, Bill.

Me too. I’m much happier since I started ignoring all of the latest impending deadlines and extreme pronouncements. I’m amazed that any of those guys still have an audience.

[Daozen]

Glad you read my posts, Merry Mom and Autumn W.

The way I see it:

- If true disclosure happens in our lifetime (very unlikely), we will see it on the worldwide news within 48 hours.
- If mass arrests happen (also unlikely) we'll see it on the news.
- If the economy changes drastically, we'll see it on the news.
- If there are real tectonic changes in politics, we'll see it on the news.

If any of these things happen, we'll see it on the news. So why should I spend hours per week listening to these alt media pundits promising instant freedom/doom/freedom/doom...? There are largely unbearable bores.

Maybe the intent is to spike Adrenalin, cause fatigue and break the spirit.

Meanwhile, there is genuine innovation going on in farming, water-filtration, micro-finance, home energy, longevity, eco-houses and a thousand other fields. Avalonians are largely ignoring these developments. A rare thread on innovation lasts more than 3 pages.

Is Avalon fulfilling it's mission statement?

Got to go...

[onawah]

Just correcting something here--what I meant was "assemblage point". :lol: :o
Apologies. I was in too much of a hurry when I posted before here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105362-I-can-t-keep-up-any-more.-The-world-of-Future-Shock-is-already-here&p=1264102&viewfull=1#post1264102
A much better explanation follows of what that is, than the link I posted before, here: https://casswiki.net/index.php?title=Assemblage_point

"In Castaneda's works, the term (assemblage point) means a locus of perception within the energy field of a being.
Moving the assemblage point causes the being to perceive and interact with a different reality. This could be likened to tuning to a specific channel of reality. Castaneda describes the universe at large as consisting of filaments of energy. A being is an egg-shaped field of energy and some filaments pass through it and others do not. The filaments which intersect with the being are the sum total of realities accessible to the being.
All shape changing, travel between worlds and states of consciousness, etc. discussed by Castaneda derive from shifting the assemblage point. This can occur in a somewhat haphazard manner through the use of drugs but ultimately is something to be accomplished as an act of will."

What I seem to be feeling is nothing as dramatic as shape shifting, but more like a change in direction, or shift in consciousness stemming from needing to find a new purpose, or perhaps finding a resting point in purposelessness. There is no longer a great thirst in me for truth about the reality we are living in, which replaced the former great thirst for spiritual Truth, and it seems like somehow those two ways of looking at existence are no longer at odds within me, and I'm reconciled to this strange reality we awakened ones find ourselves in.

Hopefully this new angst so many of us are feeling is a sign we are graduating to a new level, and it should be interesting to see what that reality will be that we are co-creating.

Some info from two different sources have both resonated with me strongly recently; in Wingmakers where Dr. Neruda says: "But the thing is, to change, to step out of this illusion, it requires each of us to wake up and stay awake. It’s not reading words that will change this; it’s the profound nature of new behaviors, because these behaviors signal that our consciousness layers are understood as separate from who we really are. We have to operate as I AM WE ARE.”

“It’s not easy. The WingMakers write about the heart virtues as the behavioral construct for this time, and how these words can be applied and lived, not simply held in the head as a worthy concept. Appreciation or gratitude, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding and valor or courage. It is the combination of nowness—being in the now—and applying these words in our behaviors. It’s being impeccable in this practice.” "

and from Messages From the Ground Crew:
"Thus the message of encouragement to those who are aware and capable of understanding the nature of their assignment is to "hold the pole." They must know that there is a plan and they are very much a decisive part of that plan, even though their part appears to be doing nothing. In fact, it is important that they appear to be doing nothing so as not to draw undue attention to themselves.
Those who are actively on the forefront know and understand their roles. It is those who are to quietly do their part that need the most encouragement.
It is important that each focus know their task and ask for guidance, provision and protection daily. The importance of each of these individual contributions to the Creator's plan cannot be overemphasized.
Though this sounds like the easiest of assignments, in the times yet to be experienced, it will not be simple or easy to remain calm, to observe and allow the actions and reactions to surround one and not lose control! To remain devoted with no recognition in a society that thrives on attention and quick gratification will be a stretch for many who truly desire to serve in some capacity in the days to come."

For many years, my goal was to live as a detached spiritual being should live, until I became a disillusioned conspiracy theorist. Then I had to figure out how to integrate the two realities. I thought my new purpose was to learn as much about what is really happening to our world so that I could help the newly awakening to understand. But there is so much to understand, I hardly knew where to begin to explain, and each time I tried, the results were far from encouraging, so I had to give that up. Just holding the Light or "holding the Pole" as George Green puts it, is the same thing, I think, and that may be what I am coming around again to realizing--that just staying awake, calm and centered may be enough, but from a much more grounded perspective than before, because now I actually know what we're up against, and what that may entail.
I just read a novel called "The Last Cruise", about an ocean liner on its last legs and what happens when it hits stormy weather.

A good metaphor for what life felt like when I started my spiritual life and what it feels like now: like embarking on one of those huge cruise liners; everything is right there at the passengers' fingertips that they might need, and it's just smooth sailing across the ocean. But suddenly an unexpected storm erupts, and it all goes haywire. They may be rescued, or they may have to take their chances in lifeboats, but it's only by staying calm, working together as equals, that the passengers and crew and staff will be able to survive.
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I've just started feeling a bit like I'm coming around again, with a new orientation, and that material is helping.
Not that I agree with all of it, but enough of it, at least, to feel like I'm connecting more to something like what Don Juan Matus called the "assembly point", referred to here: http://eden-saga.com/en/the-assembly-point.html

[starlight]

Bill, you hit the nail on the head.

I truly cannot keep up. The steady (and competitive) flow of information is so overwhelming that I feel as though I have no chance to really dive in and absorb it. Where is this headed? How will this effect us? I know for me, it has significantly affected my attention span. There is just so much to take in ALL THE TIME that I started to skim through essentially everything I see, which in turn creates a shallow understanding of particular topics or news.

I do wish that composers (of all substance) would realize that slowly publishing their material would be beneficial to them. People love the chase; like a fish coming back for another bite. Unfortunately, we all know that anyone who wants to stay in the "game" has to play by the rules of their competitors.

[thepainterdoug]

Well said Bill , you express something here akin to the feeling of peddling a bicycle down a hill when the bikes speed has exceeded your ability to pedal it. Perhaps this is when you just back off the effort and let it roll .

On another topic here on Avalon a while back, I have expressed this exact feeling on a more social level, and the feeling is, something has to give.

[Pam]

.....And it's only going to get worse. Less would be more here. 'More' is NOT more. 'More' is actually becoming less and less.....

.....And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Who else is nearing this point? ...

The worst part for me is that after all this very dedicated diligence for so long I not only don't have answers, I have a massively bigger pile of questions.

All I've really achieved is confirming a huge number of suspicions about what isn't true (ie, like vaccines really are as bad as I suspected, history has been lied about...) and it's been very satisfying to have lived outside the box refusing to take the bait in many ways my whole life and to find out I was so right to do so.

But yes, I'm starting to realize I'm not going to get those definitive answers to the big questions no matter how many more great thinkers and questioners I try to keep up with.

I'm also not going to change the world and it might not even be a noble cause to help push anything or anybody any different way than the path they're on. Lots of that are religious guilt trip remnants.

So yes, I'm slowing down the research and being more in nature and creativity - despite feeling more a heightened state of vulnerability and danger than ever before here in CA - and definitely letting go and returning to simple and letting things be.

I suspect - anyway - that the best thing I can do both for myself and in contribution to the continuum my consciousness may be inseparable from is also the easiest thing to do - live every day reinforcing the body and spirit strengthening practices that do no harm, that create and that feel expansive and some form of growth - all different forms of love.... AND continue to practice staying alert and out of traps, addictions, spells and spirit degrading temptations both mental and physical.

I'm really glad I took the time to get lot smarter, but yes it's time to do less of that and more of enjoying the fruits of all that labor.

What a lovely post, waves... Maybe you have described that place "where science and spirituality meet".

[Smell the Roses]

What I seem to be feeling is nothing as dramatic as shape shifting, but more like a change in direction, or shift in consciousness stemming from needing to find a new purpose, or perhaps finding a resting point in purposelessness. There is no longer a great thirst in me for truth about the reality we are living in, which replaced the former great thirst for spiritual Truth, and it seems like somehow those two ways of looking at existence are no longer at odds within me, and I'm reconciled to this strange reality we awakened ones find ourselves in.

Hopefully this new angst so many of us are feeling is a sign we are graduating to a new level, and it should be interesting to see what that reality will be that we are co-creating.
For many years, my goal was to live as a detached spiritual being should live, until I became a disillusioned conspiracy theorist. Then I had to figure out how to integrate the two realities. I thought my new purpose was to learn as much about what is really happening to our world so that I could help the newly awakening to understand. But there is so much to understand, I hardly knew where to begin to explain, and each time I tried, the results were far from encouraging, so I had to give that up. Just holding the Light or "holding the Pole" as George Green puts it, is the same thing, I think, and that may be what I am coming around again to realizing--that just staying awake, calm and centered may be enough, but from a much more grounded perspective than before, because now I actually know what we're up against, and what that may entail.




I've just started feeling a bit like I'm coming around again, with a new orientation, and that material is helping.
http://eden-saga.com/en/the-assembly-point.html



I have been feeling the same way. I have come to accept that we are in Plan B. For a long time, I had regrets and concerns about Plan A failing. This is unnecessary, since we can always have a new plan. My new mantra which I randomly shout when no one is around is: "PLAN B, BABY!" preferably stated with a raised fist or other energetic declaration.

We are literally one.

[Smell the Roses]

Well said Bill , you express something here akin to the feeling of peddling a bicycle down a hill when the bikes speed has exceeded your ability to pedal it. Perhaps this is when you just back off the effort and let it roll .

On another topic here on Avalon a while back, I have expressed this exact feeling on a more social level, and the feeling is, something has to give.

ThePainterDoug, I agree. A new dawn is needed. We can begin within each one of us, spreading the light, and encouraging each other to do the same.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTtcwmGUQAALgR1.jpg

[petra]

I couldn't cope with the information overload, and I thought I might have gotten permanently stupid as a result of stress! Time passed, and I'm somewhat okay now - but I still have a deep feeling of resentment in regards to having to live out the rest of my life on this planet. I guess you could say that I hate it here.. and I know that's not healthy. It's not as if I can force myself to like this place. The sad part is, in 10 more years I'm most likely going to detest our planet even more.

[petra]

I have been feeling the same way. I have come to accept that we are in Plan B. For a long time, I had regrets and concerns about Plan A failing. This is unnecessary, since we can always have a new plan. My new mantra which I randomly shout when no one is around is: "PLAN B, BABY!" preferably stated with a raised fist or other energetic declaration.

We are literally one.

Your mantra kind of matches mine.
Mine is "FIX IT", and maybe that's a part of Plan B ;-)

[ramus]

Petra ... I hope it's not permanent, your hate. Hate is an emotion that draws to you what you hate. It's an adhesive emotion. What you think your pushing away you are actually drawing towards you.

I don't know if this will help but: The opposite of Love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference. So if you don't love it here be indifferent to it, that will not draw to you what you want to push away. Don't give the darkness power, hate and Love are very powerful.
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A young man handed me this many years ago .... I have never forgot it ... I'm not a religious man, but I do know god /all that is, dwells within, this might be the only truth that I know for sure ... 100%
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Romans 5:3-5 New International Version (NIV)

3 Not only so, but we[a] also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.

At the time I worked for a company that betrayed everyone, I guess, like they all do in the end, hate would have come easy if it wasn't for learning about it. My life is o.k. now, not what I want, but what I need. Working on the rest.

Don't let the darkness eat you up.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

When chatting with an online friend today, I coined the term 'video fatigue'. I thought it was quite apt. :)

But there are various kinds of 'fatigues'. In listing them, I intend NO disrespect to the sometimes literally tireless efforts of some researchers who have been working very hard to solve some deep mysteries. (Some are deeper than others, of course.)


'Q' fatigue. (That set in for me about 10 months ago. Not a joke.)
9/11 fatigue. That's more serious. That NEEDS good research — of course. But I no longer pay too much attention to new 9/11 videos, unless I'm sold that something previously unknown actually has been unearthed.
'We're-all-going-to-ascend-next-month' fatigue. That set in for me, solidly, on 22 Dec, 2012. (And I was pretty fatigued before that, too.)
Nibiru fatigue. I really do have that now. A few years ago, I was very interested, and was fairly persuaded by some of the circumstantial evidence. Now, I no longer pay attention to Nibiru discussions.
Trump fatigue. That's related to 'Q' fatigue. I was pretty excited (even elated) when Trump was elected. While it's as plain as day that Hillary would have been almost infinitely worse, I'm no longer sure that Trump is a hero who's in full control of everything and (as Q' insists) has a surefire plan that's to be blindly trusted. (I also have to say, I sincerely hope 'Q' is right. But I'm fatigued from waiting.)
SSP fatigue. I know the Secret Space Program is a reality. What else is there to talk about?

This is definitely an incomplete list. But I thought I'd offer it, as it is, to prompt more suggestions from others. Please do share them.

:)


Good idea, I can identify with all of those, including video fatigue!;) I will be happy to add a couple suggestions off the top of my head. Personal opinions of course.


Blurry UFO Photo & Recycled Story Fatigue- This is practically a crime against digital humanity here. I’m sorry in advance. I’m worn out from looking at blurry, hyper-pixelated photos of UFOs connected immediately with a proclamation that this photo proves aliens exist, and then hearing stories of Kenneth Arnold, Roswell, and “the universe is so big, there must be something out there”. I get why this formula happens, I’m just worn out from it. It doesn’t get us any farther along.



Hype Fatigue- A new consumable video or educational product (or nearly anything else) is coming out. A month ahead of time, hype is generated and massive promises are made specifically implying new information or new evidence. Anticipation builds. And there’s nothing new. Nothing insightful. It is literally just hype. This is a waste of precious energy for me. I get that it takes time to do proper research, interviews, and travel— this is quite different than what I mean. When I say hype, I could perhaps substitute intentional manipulation


😁

[Mike Gorman]

This effect is linked with the idea of increasing novelty, we seem to arriving at a time when the momentum of increasing novelty is growing exponentially. Terrance McKenna had some interesting ideas about this. The internet has enabled us to digitize the media production of humanity, and of course a percentage of this is going to be 'crap'. For example, take YouTube itself, it is such a vast resource, there are really excellent resources but also reams of complete rubbish and low quality expression.
McKenna talks about a kind of crisis point in this increasing novelty, where it speeds up dramatically.
Time is certainly speeding up-I recently realized that I had been living in Tasmania for 5 years, that was the quickest 5 years I have ever known!
I know just what you mean Bill!

[Virilis]

The momentum of the Information Overload Avalanche seems to be increasing at an inexorable pace, even since the airing of this old Xerox commercial....

6MpfVD-c-QI

[Seabreeze]

We got rid of our TV...some time ago.No need this brain wash machine. But it does not get much better, being in the net almost every day.

But I got more careful now, knowing there are things, subjects, which can really crowd up your mind and push you out of balance. I experienced this some years ago. Someone told me something, I had a hard time to believe. I refused to believe it and went on a research to proof....it is not true and only a conspiracy theory. But bad luck...I found out the opposite...it actually is fact and true. I was under shock for about 6 month. It still effects me badly - every time the subject comes up. I did learn out of this, to not let certain things cover all of my time.

There are so many other positive things around also, to pay attention to. Turn the box of for a day and enjoy nature, the sunshine or rain, the ocean, the forest, the smile of a child or whatever brightens your day.

You need to relax and recover here and there. I listen to music a lot which helps me to balance things out again. Music can be a messenger and healer .......;)

[petra]

Petra ... I hope it's not permanent, your hate. Hate is an emotion that draws to you what you hate. It's an adhesive emotion. What you think your pushing away you are actually drawing towards you.

I don't know if this will help but: The opposite of Love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference. So if you don't love it here be indifferent to it, that will not draw to you what you want to push away. Don't give the darkness power, hate and Love are very powerful....

Don't let the darkness eat you up.

That's helpful ramus. So the saying goes "To rid yourself of darkness all you need to do is turn on the light". Easier said than done though (ha ha)
It's definitely trouble. I've been "having a chat with myself" about it too, and not only do I resent being alive - I resent eating food! My resentment is getting out of hand, and I'll probably end up getting professional help if it keeps getting worse. No offense to your help at all - it's helping, thanks.

Indifference happens... but that just ends up making me feel guilty, as if I am betraying myself somehow by not "feeling my feelings"? Feelings really are a puzzle sometimes.

I don't feel some kind of "burning hatred", it's just like a really really deep feeling of not wanting to "be here". You're right about it being adhesive, and I just don't want it getting any worse.

Maybe this is why I like my corner. I have control in my corner.

EDIT:


We got rid of our TV...some time ago.No need this brain wash machine....

Brain wash machine, ha ha
How about Propagandavision
or "Idiot Box" :)

[Pam]

Petra ... I hope it's not permanent, your hate. Hate is an emotion that draws to you what you hate. It's an adhesive emotion. What you think your pushing away you are actually drawing towards you.

I don't know if this will help but: The opposite of Love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference. So if you don't love it here be indifferent to it, that will not draw to you what you want to push away. Don't give the darkness power, hate and Love are very powerful....

Don't let the darkness eat you up.

That's helpful ramus. So the saying goes "To rid yourself of darkness all you need to do is turn on the light". Easier said than done though (ha ha)
It's definitely trouble. I've been "having a chat with myself" about it too, and not only do I resent being alive - I resent eating food! My resentment is getting out of hand, and I'll probably end up getting professional help if it keeps getting worse. No offense to your help at all - it's helping, thanks.

Indifference happens... but that just ends up making me feel guilty, as if I am betraying myself somehow by not "feeling my feelings"? Feelings really are a puzzle sometimes.

I don't feel some kind of "burning hatred", it's just like a really really deep feeling of not wanting to "be here". You're right about it being adhesive, and I just don't want it getting any worse.

Maybe this is why I like my corner. I have control in my corner.

EDIT:


We got rid of our TV...some time ago.No need this brain wash machine....

Brain wash machine, ha ha
How about Propagandavision
or "Idiot Box" :)

Could you allow yourself to feel indifference to those things that you can't change? That would take a huge emotion load off of you. Ask yourself this: What are the emotions of hate and resentment doing for any one and anything outside yourself? What are they doing for you? Are they worth it? Indifference or acceptance can release you to be productive in things that you can do something about.. I do understand you in not liking it here, I have felt the same way my whole life. Once I gained acceptance and realized my dislike for living here doesn't change a thing, it became much easier. Change what you can and let the rest go.

[ramus]

Petra.....For me turning on the light came slowly, the thing that started it was FORGIVING my self for reacting to it the way i did. I had it wrong for 40 years. Forgiving one self was very hard for me. I learned to love me, it's not total now, but it's stopped my self destruction. Love and Forgiving seems to be the answer to most of my issues and it appears the Worlds issues too.

[Pam]

Petra ... I hope it's not permanent, your hate. Hate is an emotion that draws to you what you hate. It's an adhesive emotion. What you think your pushing away you are actually drawing towards you.

I don't know if this will help but: The opposite of Love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference. So if you don't love it here be indifferent to it, that will not draw to you what you want to push away. Don't give the darkness power, hate and Love are very powerful....

Don't let the darkness eat you up.

That's helpful ramus. So the saying goes "To rid yourself of darkness all you need to do is turn on the light". Easier said than done though (ha ha)
It's definitely trouble. I've been "having a chat with myself" about it too, and not only do I resent being alive - I resent eating food! My resentment is getting out of hand, and I'll probably end up getting professional help if it keeps getting worse. No offense to your help at all - it's helping, thanks.

Indifference happens... but that just ends up making me feel guilty, as if I am betraying myself somehow by not "feeling my feelings"? Feelings really are a puzzle sometimes.

I don't feel some kind of "burning hatred", it's just like a really really deep feeling of not wanting to "be here". You're right about it being adhesive, and I just don't want it getting any worse.

Maybe this is why I like my corner. I have control in my corner.

EDIT:


We got rid of our TV...some time ago.No need this brain wash machine....

Brain wash machine, ha ha
How about Propagandavision
or "Idiot Box" :)

Could you allow yourself to feel indifference to those things that you can't change? That would take a huge emotion load off of you. Ask yourself this: What are the emotions of hate and resentment doing for any one and anything outside yourself? What are they doing for you? Are they worth it? Indifference or acceptance can release you to be productive in things that you can do something about.. I do understand you in not liking it here, I have felt the same way my whole life. Once I gained acceptance and realized my dislike for living here doesn't change a thing, it became much easier. Change what you can and let the rest go.

I wrote this about an hour ago. After I wrote it, I went for a walk on the beach with my dogs. The area is remote and there is all kinds of wildlife. One of the things I have a very hard time with on this planet is the predator- prey dynamics. In particular the fact that we have to eat other living things to survive. Above, I have given "advice" about the benefits of indifference or acceptance of the things we can't change.

I am walking down the beach and see what appears to be a slightly injured gull hiding. My dogs approached it and it flew unsteadily into the water. Immediately, an eagle starts circling for the kill. I went into some kind of hysterics screaming and waving a stick to scare the eagle out of the water. The eagle perches on on a tall evergreen and the injured bird floats off the shore. I am still waving a stick and making loud noises. Then my own words came back to haunt me. I am frantically not excepting, even hating the inevitable. I know that the Eagle can wait longer than I can and the injured bird will be eaten, if not by this eagle it will be by another one. I turned and walked in another direction so I would not have to witness the inevitable.

The reason I share this is because it gave me a strong reminder that sometimes when we are dishing out advice it is really meant for ourselves and also a reminder that I am nowhere close to my ideals.

[petra]

Petra ... I hope it's not permanent, your hate. Hate is an emotion that draws to you what you hate. It's an adhesive emotion. What you think your pushing away you are actually drawing towards you.

I don't know if this will help but: The opposite of Love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference. So if you don't love it here be indifferent to it, that will not draw to you what you want to push away. Don't give the darkness power, hate and Love are very powerful....

Don't let the darkness eat you up.

That's helpful ramus. So the saying goes "To rid yourself of darkness all you need to do is turn on the light". Easier said than done though (ha ha)
It's definitely trouble. I've been "having a chat with myself" about it too, and not only do I resent being alive - I resent eating food! My resentment is getting out of hand, and I'll probably end up getting professional help if it keeps getting worse. No offense to your help at all - it's helping, thanks.

Indifference happens... but that just ends up making me feel guilty, as if I am betraying myself somehow by not "feeling my feelings"? Feelings really are a puzzle sometimes.

I don't feel some kind of "burning hatred", it's just like a really really deep feeling of not wanting to "be here". You're right about it being adhesive, and I just don't want it getting any worse.

Maybe this is why I like my corner. I have control in my corner.

EDIT:


We got rid of our TV...some time ago.No need this brain wash machine....

Brain wash machine, ha ha
How about Propagandavision
or "Idiot Box" :)

Could you allow yourself to feel indifference to those things that you can't change? That would take a huge emotion load off of you. Ask yourself this: What are the emotions of hate and resentment doing for any one and anything outside yourself? What are they doing for you? Are they worth it? Indifference or acceptance can release you to be productive in things that you can do something about.. I do understand you in not liking it here, I have felt the same way my whole life. Once I gained acceptance and realized my dislike for living here doesn't change a thing, it became much easier. Change what you can and let the rest go.

That's the serenity prayer. "God grant me the serenity..."

"Serenity Now! Serenity Now!" .. "I don't think the phrase it works if you yell it!" (that's my relevant thought, from an episode of Seinfeld)
I know negative emotions are useless, and I understand that.
My thoughts asked me a suspicious question once and I still remember, "Would you like to know where your future leads?"
I snapped back "I already know where it leads. Death."
Cynicism... it's a part of who I am, and I just don't think it's going away. I could probably try to tone it down a little though :)

[avid]

Everything now seems to be frenetic, just take a look at our current thread titles/discussion topics.
The horrendous ‘light-the-blue-touch-paper’ of the anomalous fires in Paradise, severely affecting ‘our own’, the dowsed cataclysms of a trusted member, the financial rationales, the surmisings of ‘Q’, earth trends either natural or unnatural, deliberate toxicity to the environment and to humans, the ‘takeover’ by other-dimensional beings for nefarious means, and the giant potentially ‘blackmail’ never-to-be resolved ‘cover-ups’ ongoing due to Satanic interference by an alternative ‘globalistic’ elite society.
We love positive imagery, wondrous music, exciting adventures, camaraderie and compassionate support here, please don’t let negativity ‘tip our balance’....:flower::flower:

[petra]

On the bright side, at least we're not ignoring it!

For a long time I was frustrated because I thought everyone was blind. Now I see that is not true, I was the one who was blind.

[ramus]

Petra.. This song just came out by Citizen Cope, interesting name , the song says a lot : I thought of you........ and me, I really like this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y4oeTFOQv0

[Bill Ryan]

In my opening post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105362-I-can-t-keep-up-any-more.-The-world-of-Future-Shock-is-already-here&p=1264068&viewfull=1#post1264068), as well as in the thread title, I referred to Alvin Toffler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler)'s seminal and prophetic Future Shock (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Alvin%20Toffler%20-%20Future%20Shock.pdf), written in 1970.

Here's the audiobook: :thumbsup:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Future_Shock_Alvin_Toffler_audiobook.mp3

[ramus]

I waffle between pessimism and hope on a daily basis .. I thought I was broken but I am not. The doubt that arises comes from outside of me and influences my thoughts. One of my greatest beliefs is..... doubt is imposed.. not generated. I remind myself this when the waffling begins. Future Shock at work.

[AutumnW]

This effect is linked with the idea of increasing novelty, we seem to arriving at a time when the momentum of increasing novelty is growing exponentially. Terrance McKenna had some interesting ideas about this. The internet has enabled us to digitize the media production of humanity, and of course a percentage of this is going to be 'crap'. For example, take YouTube itself, it is such a vast resource, there are really excellent resources but also reams of complete rubbish and low quality expression.
McKenna talks about a kind of crisis point in this increasing novelty, where it speeds up dramatically.
Time is certainly speeding up-I recently realized that I had been living in Tasmania for 5 years, that was the quickest 5 years I have ever known!
I know just what you mean Bill!

Well put, Mike! We live in a world of less and less, in terms of money and more and more novelty. People are trying to deal with it by ramping up the quantity of info they produce in an attempt to create a balance between the two, for the sake of survival.

But as Bill and everyone else has pointed out, balance is not restored. Instead less money, more novelty creates a synergy that greases the rails on the run away train that we feel compelled to occupy. It's so weird.

[Agape]

I feel every so often I can’t keep up with the state of this world emotionally. I think it’s an emotion, the pace of our heart beats, human vulnerability, the awareness of it.
It’s not easy to breathe it out. Of course there’s always someone stronger out there pulling the ox chart so to say, doing the hard jobs, writing thousand worded essays and thesis on evolution of proteins in every plant and beetle we ever found, all those things you ever wanted to know and put together and I know I won’t be able to read them all even if I get life,
we simply aren’t an AI, a cray computer can absorb and process all that information together( someday, more efficiently), lets take it easy, we don’t have to do that much.

Enough is enough I agree. My time stops so often seeing the contradictions and how much we have-in terms of knowledge- and how much we are losing.
So huge is the loss of lives, dignity and respect and all those little points that would make a miracle but being lost, everyone suffers.

I don’t understand how am I preserving sense of sanity and integrity for a bit yet and filtering all those overwhelming moments that would kill an elephant ( well that’s my opinion but look, elephants could well agree these days) but I think it’s because I’m still young.
I’ve seen too many so called “mature humans” on this planet suffering from mental dis-ease. Politicians, philosophers, religious leaders, all kinds of people ..not all but too many as if they all could not handle it at some point and they turn mental.

Attached to their theories and life styles and schools and lineages and families and only blood lines, some people “die young” by being overwhelmed and overtaken by that dis-ease and it scares me.

It scares me to meet the world of aged idiots :) And young ones who admire them and aspire to be like them.

So happy there are few others like Bill , some smarter, healthier, living beings still walking on this planet .

I think it’s ok not to be a “cray computer” and I’ve also done many years of meditation retreat in the days when internet was not available to me and I read the newspapers but only sometimes. I saw things clearly in my mind and would miss nothing. And many of my memories and learning ever acquired and forgotten was coming back , resurfacing in my mind, clearly as well and things I saw in my mind would probably fill volumes. And nothing really missed.
That was before the internet for me..

But in last few years, due to life circumstances paradoxically I had to unplug from the IT and relax from the pace and return to the “original self” is what’s going to be the most important, been most important now and in future, for all of us I feel.

Return to the “original self who is the knower”.

I feel very overwhelmed by global human circumstances and suffering in either case anyway. But it’s important to keep coming back from the chaos and vanity of “too much talking” to the peace and wisdom of “need-to-know”.


:star::heart:

[Savannah]

I have forgotten how to read

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/ece-images/0dc/opinion/article37921347.ece/BINARY/w780/DIGITAL_ReadingIllo_Winnie-T-Frick.jpg

“For a long time Michael Harris convinced himself that a childhood spent immersed in old-fashioned books would insulate him from our new media climate – that he could keep on reading in the old way because his mind was formed in pre-internet days. He was wrong.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/i-have-forgotten-how-toread/article37921379/



Last year I started losing interest in reading and when I pushed myself I just couldn’t get through an average size chapter. I have loved reading all my life. Frustrated with reading boring text books I had to read in college I actually I wanted to read between semesters the books I was interested in. I have read every night before going to bed since I was 12.

I wondered if it was just my age (62) or if I was getting depressed. I just couldn’t understand what was going on with me. I thought about computers shorting our attention spans . Very disturbing as he notes above because I also thought my brain was immune since I didn’t grow in the technology age. Of course we all know how adaptable the brain is but this really brought it home for me.

Maybe it’s because I’m reading so many information/ nonfiction books and I used to read more Novels. However even a novel I may finish it but it’s still hard to get through unless it’s very high interest level.

It seems like is my attention span is shorter because I want that dopamine hit more frequently, that ‘s talked about in video games, addictions and drugs. I want the book to get to the point, just give me a quick list, Hit Me with the facts! So I can learn faster, advance quicker. Entwined in this is a feeling there is less time and sense of urgency (that may be another thread).

[Mike]

omg, Savannah, i feel exactly the same. i've been trying to read the same 3 titles for years, and i just can't get thru them.

i get bored quickly and my mind starts wandering almost immediately...even when the material is something i find interesting. i wasn't always like this! i used to be an energetic, focused reader..and would even stubbornly finish books i wasn't even particularly enjoying, just on principle.

i have a hard time watching movies even! i find myself neglecting them in favor of 10 minute youtube videos. and even when i'm searching for a specific youtube video, i'll often forget which one that is once i'm bombarded with all the options. Sometimes an entire day will go by before i remember what i was looking for. amazing.

[Flash]

Coaches fatigue.

There are mow coaches on everything whom are all presumed knowing more than you do or presumed able to guide you. Fine to learn to play guitar or to learn a language.

But for the thousands of life coaches, please.... why in heaven sake would I have to listen ? My inner self is much more efficient.

[Valerie Villars]

Ditto for me Savannah and Mike. I could have written that article on reading.

When you tie in Herve's excellent post here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105587-Secrets-Codes-Kabbalah-Symbols-Keys-and-Locks&p=1267785&viewfull=1#post1267785 then it all makes sense.

I've been trying to articulate for years why books were so important and how dangerous technology is for our evolution as spiritual beings. My spiritual awakening was due to having read books, listened to music and a fluid application of gained knowledge, among other things.

Technology is keeping us from attaining enlightenment. I believe there are those who are aware of this and are using it to their advantage. There is no doubt in my mind about this.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I have forgotten how to read

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/ece-images/0dc/opinion/article37921347.ece/BINARY/w780/DIGITAL_ReadingIllo_Winnie-T-Frick.jpg

“For a long time Michael Harris convinced himself that a childhood spent immersed in old-fashioned books would insulate him from our new media climate – that he could keep on reading in the old way because his mind was formed in pre-internet days. He was wrong.”


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/i-have-forgotten-how-toread/article37921379/



Last year I started losing interest in reading and when I pushed myself I just couldn’t get through an average size chapter. I have loved reading all my life. Frustrated with reading boring text books I had to read in college I actually I wanted to read between semesters the books I was interested in. I have read every night before going to bed since I was 12.

I wondered if it was just my age (62) or if I was getting depressed. I just couldn’t understand what was going on with me. I thought about computers shorting our attention spans . Very disturbing as he notes above because I also thought my brain was immune since I didn’t grow in the technology age. Of course we all know how adaptable the brain is but this really brought it home for me.

Maybe it’s because I’m reading so many information/ nonfiction books and I used to read more Novels. However even a novel I may finish it but it’s still hard to get through unless it’s very high interest level.

It seems like is my attention span is shorter because I want that dopamine hit more frequently, that ‘s talked about in video games, addictions and drugs. I want the book to get to the point, just give me a quick list, Hit Me with the facts! So I can learn faster, advance quicker. Entwined in this is a feeling there is less time and sense of urgency (that may be another thread).


I know what you mean. I don't think I read ten books last year. Not half of my usual total.

[East Sun]

I'm 76 yrs old and have been a reader all my life.
I cant put a definite moniker on myself, I'm not intellectual, am self educated,
maybe worldly wise but am at a loss these days as to what is "supposed" to be right
and that word is crucial at any time.

We got our info. from books, but not today. If we are astute and choose rightly we have people like David Icke
and others to listen to and decipher what they are saying to be right in our opinion.

[Caliban]

Reading is a relationship. It's almost like a romance. You start again picking up a book and reading a half hour and you feel that pull to come back. And you read for an hour. Then the scale begins to tip.

Let's not make too big of a deal of "future shock" and whatnot. It is what it is right? So let it be. Just start turning away.

[Flash]

I simply have to manage my video viewing — somehow! — to reasonable levels. This simply means that some things tend to get cut out or relegated to a lower priority. I'd imagine that that applies to just about everyone reading this. I usually patrol all the new activity on threads when I get up each morning, but even that's primarily wearing a moderator's hat and not diving into every video that looks like it could be interesting. I do often download things to view later, but I have a huge backlog there... I think maybe we all do. :)

Yes, I do speed reading, and this is why I can read quite a lot of text even here on avalon. And even here I have a reading backlog. But for this reason, I much prefer reading than any video - it is also less influential, I can keep my own critical analysis easier, not having the image influencing me.

But I cannot do speed video looking, or speed hearing lol. Therefore a huge backlog too.

[RunningDeer]

I do often download things to view later, but I have a huge backlog there... I think maybe we all do. :)
Did you know post: Many YouTube videos include transcripts.

Click on the three dots and then click 'open transcript'. I’ve found there’s no transcript available when the video is newly loaded. The software must need time to process.



https://i.imgur.com/AbMIYRd.jpg



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I toggle to the no time stamp and cut and paste to speed read, review or click on specific topics. Note: the whole page copies when I cut and paste within the transcript. It's intact along with the miscellaneous info which I delete. I do that rather than scroll on the dialogue, i.e. transcript because it takes a long time especially with the longer vids.

You can also click on a sentence and it’ll bring you to the specific time stamp on the video. You may need to click on “hide chat” so you can see the transcript.


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[Bill Ryan]

Yes, I do speed reading, and this is why I can read quite a lot of text even here on avalon. And even here I have a reading backlog. But for this reason, I much prefer reading than any video - it is also less influential, I can keep my own critical analysis easier, not having the image influencing me.

But I cannot do speed video looking, or speed hearing lol. Therefore a huge backlog too.

A big difference with articles (or transcripts) is that they're quickly searchable. Videos aren't. (At all, quickly or otherwise.)

So I may well have to sit through an entire two hour video before I see if there's anything that might specifically interest me, if (e.g.) I'm trying to hunt down a particular piece of info. That's a vast, inefficient waste of time... if I need to be efficient that day.

[AutumnW]

I think part of the issue with reading books versus reading or watching videos online might have something to do with a sense we have of online being more participatory and somehow more urgent and that goes for reading articles online that don't have a comments section.

After a fairly short while structural changes in the brain start to occur and again, that may be due to the sense of urgency and sense of being involved in a participatory phenomena that demands our attention, as if we are with fellow hunter gatherers on the Savannah doing something important for survival.

I have often stopped myself and asked myself exactly what I am hunting for online and I have no answer other than, "I'll know it when I see it!"

We are learning a certain amount and expanding our awareness in some ways while likely shrinking our capacity to be still, calm and easily satisfied with the practise of reading a book. It's a shame.

[Savannah]

"I have often stopped myself and asked myself exactly what I am hunting for online and I have no answer other than, "I'll know it when I see it!"

Yes, AutummW, I found myself doing that also. I wonder if its a kind of senses that there is something in the quantum field of information, it out there and I need to find it. Those searching actions have been reinforced. Sometimes I think there is nothing new and someone posts info that explodes for me and I find it connects dots and answers so many questions. Thus the dopamine hit, the hi of finding something important. Where a book is very slow, I already know what its going to say. The book starts with an ide and then provides the evidence and later the conclusions. Don't get me wrong here, that's vital and important in our learning process, but I have already accepted the hypothesis most of the time, or I would not have bought the book.

I'm just trying to make sense of such a radicle change in my personality. Something I felt was so fixed. It is info overload but much more than that. It is how we are now finding information and processing that information. Is it just due to computers?

[Mark]

Real life (RL) is very busy for me, extremely so. I'm involved locally with some initiatives and organizations and seeking to make a change, in my lived environment, so spending a lot of time surfing the net and reading articles is something that I relegate to what little down time that I have and that is after personal time with my partner and communication and time spent hanging out with friends and family. Reading books? Entire books? So hard these days. I continue to buy them, my library is growing and, someday, when all of this is no longer the norm, when videos and articles I've dl'd are archived and accessible by generator and precious time on a rickety and flickering electronic device, I expect to "catch up" and find out why things turned out the way they did.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

"If more of you wore sunglasses and ear plugs you might be cured in a decade or two"

Haha - harsh, but so true!

For myself, I feel there is no need to "keep up".
Shift your frequency and you will experience a different reality.

Technology pulls you into a loop designed to keep you off center and removed from your true nature. Information is not knowledge . You can parse and parse and parse reality into every smaller bits and never understand the larger structure. You can flood yourself with details gleaned from a thousand different perspectives and still never discover reality.
Watch children. Laugh more.
Peace

[Cara]

No, don't be concerned: I'm fine. :)

But the rate at which information is coming at us all is NOT.

This thread is in The Human Condition (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?178-The-Human-Condition), but it might be under Technology (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?124-Technology), or The Internet (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?133-The-Internet). It actually started as a prospective post in PURSUING X: Marketing, money and manipulation in the Alternative Media (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104868-PURSUING-X-Marketing-money-and-manipulation-in-the-Alternative-Media) (an important thread, I'd contend) but then I thought it deserved its own thread... at least for the moment.

Here's the question. Who else feels the same thing?

I'd thought of putting it in the PURSUING X: Marketing, money and manipulation in the Alternative Media (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104868-PURSUING-X-Marketing-money-and-manipulation-in-the-Alternative-Media) thread, because a lot of this is about marketing.

To be more specific, the urgent, scramble-to-keep-up feeling that many content providers have (like researchers who upload regular YouTube videos, and/or do weekly podcasts) — that they have to compete. And for them, to compete means publishing more and more and MORE.

All these people are competing for YOUR attention. Can you feel it? :)

Here's the really big problem. I can't keep up — I have more YouTube videos 'downloaded for later' than I'll ever watch, simply being realistic — and I don't even have a family or an office job. So for most people, they have NO CHANCE.

And what that means is that even for those who are motivated to somehow keep in touch as best they can with whatever's happening, they only get tiny fragments. No in-depth analysis: and the tiny fragments they get might be the wrong fragments.

And carefully reading well-researched books from cover to cover? Forget it.

It means that very few people now have any deep understanding of many subjects. They just skip along the surface, like a flat stone skimming on water. Just read a few dozen YouTube comments, tweets, or Facebook posts. It's clear to see.

Despite the vast library all around us, most people know virtually nothing about anything. It's true.

This is all a signal-to-noise problem, of course. It'd be bad enough even if all the information that was hurtling at us was detailed, accurate, and high quality. But it's not. 95% (or more!) is facile, misleading, empty, shallow, or false.

And it's only going to get worse. Less would be more here. 'More' is NOT more. 'More' is actually becoming less and less.

For reference (apologies to those who are aware I've mentioned this several times now), we have Alvin Toffler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler)'s seminal and prophetic Future Shock (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Alvin%20Toffler%20-%20Future%20Shock.pdf), written in 1970.

He predicted that the rate of change of change itself would increase steadily, as would the sheer quantity of information inexorably coming at us — with little scope for us to be able to turn off the fire hose.

And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Who else is nearing this point? Do please share how you find yourself feeling.

I came across a 1972 film version of Alvin Tofler’s book Future Shock today:
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Published on Jun 26, 2016
'Future Shock' is a documentary film based on the book written in 1970 by sociologist and futurist Alvin Toffler. Released in 1972, with a cigar-chomping Orson Welles as on-screen narrator, this piece of futurism is darkly dystopian and oozing techno-paranoia.


Given the revelations about Google, Facebook, the Integrity Initiative, Cambridge Analytica, etc. (for instance here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108351-Google-Whistleblower-Goes-Public-says-Burden-Lifted-off-of-my-Soul-.), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101475-How-Google-Facebook-Yahoo-decide-what-you-re-going-to-see), and here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88051-The-Problems-with-Facebook)) it seems timely to consider the role of technology and its wider systems in the creation of our Future Shock.

[Peter UK]

Here's the really big problem. I can't keep up — I have more YouTube videos 'downloaded for later' than I'll ever watch, simply being realistic — and I don't even have a family or an office job. So for most people, they have NO CHANCE.

And what that means is that even for those who are motivated to somehow keep in touch as best they can with whatever's happening, they only get tiny fragments. No in-depth analysis: and the tiny fragments they get might be the wrong fragments.

And carefully reading well-researched books from cover to cover? Forget it.

It means that very few people now have any deep understanding of many subjects. They just skip along the surface, like a flat stone skimming on water. Just read a few dozen YouTube comments, tweets, or Facebook posts. It's clear to see.

Despite the vast library all around us, most people know virtually nothing about anything. It's true.

This is all a signal-to-noise problem, of course. It'd be bad enough even if all the information that was hurtling at us was detailed, accurate, and high quality. But it's not. 95% (or more!) is facile, misleading, empty, shallow, or false.

And it's only going to get worse. Less would be more here. 'More' is NOT more. 'More' is actually becoming less and less.

For reference (apologies to those who are aware I've mentioned this several times now), we have Alvin Toffler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler)'s seminal and prophetic Future Shock (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Alvin%20Toffler%20-%20Future%20Shock.pdf), written in 1970.

He predicted that the rate of change of change itself would increase steadily, as would the sheer quantity of information inexorably coming at us — with little scope for us to be able to turn off the fire hose.

And he predicted that many people would go into a kind of 'shock', and would retreat, simply not being able to cope any more. They'd retire into a small personal corner, and focus almost exclusively on what was very near at hand. Very little else.

Who else is nearing this point? Do please share how you find yourself feeling.

What might be required in the light of all that is to have one or two dedicated researchers in their chosen field, experts in that type of information simply because they are passionate about the subject. It is their subject.

On a forum like PA they would need to be recognised and considered to be trusted sources.

We can't and shouldn't be expected to be experts in everything.

:)

[Icare]

This thread reflects exactly how I feel right now.

And this concerns a lot of subjects that Bill and others mention on here. I have been suffering from information overload for quite some time now and it's been detrimental to my health.

I have spent the last 3 days going through Bill's personal Q and A thread and it took me that long because I find it very interesting and there are a lot of cross-references in there which I felt I had to check up on. I still have a few tabs open that I haven't got through yet (e.g. the 'Charles material').

Then there is a lot of new information about Covid 19, for example, and I could spend a lot of time to check all the graphs and predictions that some people kindly took ages to work on, but I have decided for myself that I won't any more, simply because it is all getting too much for me, especially as many graphs appear to take the official numbers given out as their basis. Well, I don't think those numbers can be trusted at all, which makes it impossible to come to any fairly reliable conclusions anyway.

I have decided to simply lean back, quietly prepare myself for the worst case scenario and stop letting it bother me too much.

I have had to accept I will no longer be able to fly to Sri Lanka for 2 weeks of ayurvedic treatment in April which I booked months ago and which I usually find very beneficial (I've been doing it once a year for the past 15 years and believe that's what kept me going). I have accepted that going to Egypt for 2 weeks in June (also booked months ago) will most probably no longer be an option either, and I won't let that get me down either. There's just no point.

I feel the only thing that should matter for me now is to take care of my health and continue to grow spiritually, so I plan to go back to some old-fashioned reading (of books I find helpful in that respect) and will to get back a decent level of physical fitness.

And I will kepp sending out healing light.

And this forum has given me so much good advice on nutrition and alternative treatments that I've stocked up my little medicine cabinet with all sorts of good things now, I feel I'll be alright. If not, then so be it.

I'll stay at home as much as I can and let this cloud pass, hopefully it will pass in the summer. I have planted a few nice sping flowers and enjoy seeing them grow.
Panicking and fretting every day just isn't constructive in any way. I have given up on reading the newspaper and just look at the headlines. I have given up watching TV. I'm just tired of worrying all the time.

And it's always good to know that in case I need information on anything specific I can always find some on here. :)

[pyrangello]

I care, your among the Avalon family here. I'd say right now we're all running a bit of anxiety right now. Remember life is like a pendulum,it swings to the extreme left end right but always comes back to center. We're all together on this ride.

[Icare]

Thank you for saying that, pyrangello, that's one of the things that keep me going. :)

Yes, we are all in this together and we can always find someone with empathy and/or a piece of genuinely good advice. That's good to know.

I will keep sending healing light to PA and to the Earth. :)

[Anka]

I will always try to find the importance of the Universe, being in the middle of nature under the sun rays, enjoying the fresh air and watching the ducks on the lake.

I will always see the joy of life in the eyes of children, I will always extend a helping hand to those around me.

The predictions themselves accentuate our ephemerality in our temporary needs, we must find stability, in which the spiritual and positive existence converges to the depth of our soul, a kaleidoscope of living colors, in essence the only possible validation: The courage to experience life in the most beautiful and Loving way possible.

Nothing can eclipse the fundamental intelligence of the human spirit.
The area of ​​stability and comfort is within our reach, we just have to learn how to create peace and familiarity to access it at least with those around us.
We just have to keep up with the change in the most friendly, stable and positive way.
The culture of our progressive awakening is an arc of protection at the end of consciousness of the most enduring race over time, ever recorded in the journal of the nature of the human spirit.

Together we will succeed.

[tan_hm]

I am a new member here, there is so much information that I don’t know where to start or how to discriminate a topic that interests me from another. They all interest me and find them of great value, but I have to go through 10 years of amazing information plus the acceleration of overflowing information. Not a complaint at all. 😊

[Ratszinger]

I am a new member here, there is so much information that I don’t know where to start or how to discriminate a topic that interests me from another. They all interest me and find them of great value, but I have to go through 10 years of amazing information plus the acceleration of overflowing information. Not a complaint at all. 😊

Welcome. Yes it can be an information overload. Just remember Baby steps!!

[Peter UK]

I am a new member here, there is so much information that I don’t know where to start or how to discriminate a topic that interests me from another. They all interest me and find them of great value, but I have to go through 10 years of amazing information plus the acceleration of overflowing information. Not a complaint at all. 😊

Please take your time, there is a wealth of information here so maybe prioritise the subject areas you are particularly interested in as a first objective, narrow then down to maybe something like 5 and approach them with a keen interest. Make casual reading a feature for everything else to begin with, in that way you should avoid overwhelming yourself.

[ralfy]

The catch is that future shock, if premised on acceleration of technology, might be replaced by limits to growth. That is,

Probably around 85 pct of the world's population earn less than $10 a day. But they want to earn more, and they are becoming part of the global middle class that take over the global economy. They are part of Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and forty emerging markets with upwardly mobile, very ambitious, and eager young men and women who want to avail of what the aging middle class populations have in richer countries and are more than willing to study and work hard for such, and the latter is counting on them to do so because their own earnings and returns on investment are dependent on more consumers worldwide buying more goods and services. Hence, the drive for technological advancement needed to increase productivity.

But in order to meet the basic needs of the current population, we will need at least one more earth. In order to meet middle class conveniences of most of the population, definitely more than one. In order to meet the same of a growing population, even more.

In short, acceleration of technology is done to increase productivity, and sales from what is produced is guaranteed because there are large numbers of young buyers worldwide, but the resources and energy needed to increase productivity is limited, which means instead of future shock one might see resource shock. And if history is right, that should be accompanied by environmental damage of an incredible scale, wars over resources, the spread of disease as vectors for such increase, soil erosion and species die-offs, etc.

[Denise/Dizi]

I feel like I should write some things about how people can recognize manipulations, and be helpful to those seeking truth and enlightenment.. But that would take a day, and I would still miss things, and I would lose people in all of the words..

I suppose I would suggest that people that truly seek knowledge and enlightenment, seek it from within.. Ask yourself questions, be firm on the standards to which you hold yourself to, and then expect that same standard from those that you are hoping to gain more knowledge from.

Listen to the language being used.. Can that have two meanings? Could there have been a better word used to explain something that wasn't as ambiguous? I use simple words, not because I have a lack of vocabulary, but because truth doesn't need a degree from a school. I do not care about grades, or marks on a piece of paper.. I care about the words I speak, being taken for what they are.

I went to school seeking knowledge, and instead, got educated, indoctrinated, and led around, being taught the ways of a "System".. But it is not the only system we must live by.. It does help those who wish to maintain power over the masses however, to "school" us together, like fish in an ocean, all swimming the same way.. We are led into believing one doctrine... One set of beliefs.. Free thinkers are both celebrated, and shunned...

We get "Reports" of our efforts, based upon this system, we fear not being "adequate".. as in this system? One must "Measure up".. We are not expected to RISE up.. Only to be able to be measured by how much of this system we take on board..

The news now "reports" to us that which we are to believe, the government reports to us.. and if that isn't enough, they form committees to make new reports. These are not facts, but reports that they're giving us. And we are expected to live in this system.. We agree to by compliance.. The definitions of "Reports" vary.. But i know many "Reports" that were handed in at school, were given failing grades as they didn't meet the standards of the SYSTEM".. Not that they were not correct, but that they didn't meet an expectation.. This is ONE definition of"Report"- a piece of information that is unsupported by firm evidence and that the speaker feels may or may not be true.

It is a belief...

Definition of System... as this is what we are living UNDER, whether it be government, financial, etc...

a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network.
"the state railroad system"
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Similar:
structure
organization
order
arrangement
complex
apparatus
network
administration
institution
setup

Physiology
a set of organs in the body with a common structure or function.
"the digestive system"
the human or animal body as a whole.
"you need to get the cholesterol out of your system"
Computing
a group of related hardware units or programs or both, especially when dedicated to a single application.
Geology
(in chronostratigraphy) a major range of strata that corresponds to a period in time, subdivided into series.
Astronomy
a group of celestial objects connected by their mutual attractive forces, especially moving in orbits about a center.
"the system of bright stars known as the Gould Belt"
short for crystal system.

2.
a set of principles or procedures according to which something is done; an organized scheme or method.
"a multiparty system of government"

When you look at this, you realize that this isn't a natural system, but a construct. One that was put into place by the few to control the many. In this "system", there is no place for empathy, love, or anything of the like, it is all about the system.. And maintaining that for the whole.. And while we do so, we are destroying the eco system, the family system, the connections that we celebrate when we are young.

We let go of dreaming, as that doesn't fit into this system.. In this system, there has to be results, no "What if"... Dream all you like, but there needs to be a paycheck at the end of the day, forcing many to stay in this system.

Waking up to THAT will free you from all the rest in huge ways. You will begin to recognize that this system, in many ways conflicts with your internal beliefs, feelings and emotions. Many are miserable. We live on a beautiful planet and many kill themselves for their own disappointment or sadness.. Or worse.. their inability to thrive in this system.

As far as chaos. You control that chaos which you allow into your life. Remember that. It is ok to ask for help when you need it, to limit your exposure to things that overwhelm you, and to be selective of that which you allow into your life. If the news overwhelms you, turn it off.

Many will write how to take supplements, how to eat better, how to this and that, they're all "gurus" in their own fields, but only you know you.. If being alone is hard for you, reach out. If you are overwhelmed by the amount of information being thrust upon you? Tune it out, stop looking. Become critical of that which you allow in your "Bubble".. Learn to discern what is part of the "System" and what isn't.. Learn to recognize that within your own community. And equally you will be more prepared to walk away from that which doesn't serve your well being...

And pay attention to language... It's important.. if people use "Sweeping words" like "Reporting" rather than investigating.. walk away...If people are "Suggesting" something, they're then only going to turn around and state that it was a suggestion.. when you hold them accountable to their words.. Wake up, give yourself knowledge and hold others accountable to their actions..

I wrote out a lot about how to recognize such things, and erased it, But I can post it if someone is interested in seeing what I am suggesting if they feel it may help them in their "Wake up" process.

First and foremost,

Learn who you are, and who you wish to be, and don 't let anyone else convince you otherwise.. Even while living within the systm.. And LIVE THAT... And once you do that doors will open. If you want to learn how to recognize the stuff that pulls you down? Ask someone else who already has discovered such things. But remember that is the only thing that you asked them. As they may not see other things the way that you do. And that's ok.

Investigate for yourself, don't wait for "reports.. " or we will all keep swimming around in the same circles, while the few lead us into those directions..

And breathe...

This is what I try to do...

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

[Delight]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

Have been feeling, thinking and behaving as if the whole reality has smashed to smithereens such that information will not be digested, just one bit piled on another and stacking up so thick that it needs a bulldozer to move.

However, I have also had a rather new and interesting "BS" meter refinement. I think we have been guided away intentionally from trusting that we can boil all the verbiage to essence and digest it. This however means that we have to have the rudiments of a "self" which is NOT socially dependent. This self must have conviction NOT based on comparisons to others' views. It comes after a few years of tinkering with knowing one self. It takes a bit of "sociopathy" (meaning perfectly willing to act against public opinions). TO THY OWN SELF BE TRUE means a filter of "This is MY STAND". It is all about principles that are comparison benchmarks. The use of a deep decision guide in us is not inscribed in stone but on the heart. Change comes form within as one tests information. It is a psychic intention maker to be the authority.

I sincerely think we have been led to this precipice for a reason. When we must grow wings to fly over the garbage mountain of "information without end", we DO GROW WINGS or we are buried. IMO this is harsh reality. Those who live by no inner rudder, may die in the rip tides. natural law IMO.

[Ewan]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

I was back then, it is one of the reasons I 'disappeared' off the forum. Thankfully I am cured. :happythumbsup:

I think the majority of us will have reached a point where we can consolidate on our existing beliefs and viewpoints but for goodness sake stay open. Turn inward and reinforce that which you hold to be good and true, let the rest of the world just slide right on by, stay alert and be receptive to whatever might appear in synchronicities. Just don't fall into the stream again. :)

[Bluegreen]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

I got used to this feeling in 1991, and haven't paid attention since

:)

[Anka]

"Once you're inside, there's no way out." That's the system(So they say).
It is not written anywhere, however, that we must fall to our knees, even if we stumble over it.
A concrete motto in the context of the world we live in, cannot be included in a textbook.
The recent history of events cannot be reconstructed in an exceptional description of the experience of 8 billion years in a few hours of a very short article. It is very controversial to say that we can look at the big picture of the world, no matter how far back we go to see the current picture.The more we know, the more we prepare to know :flower:

Between a remnant conflict called society and an example of a reality, we should be the revolutionary guards, stages of our existence, that existence in which we calculate everything that is related to ourselves, and we must not calculate what we think we know about ourselves in connection with reality.

People hope, search, and sometimes find the truth, and when they are face to face with him, they run away.
Maybe it's about the way of the way how everyone finds the truth.
I don't want to say that I found it, I don't want anyone to believe me about anything, but I really want everyone to experience it.
In front of every human I am ready to say: "You leave me with no alternative but to say that I have nothing left to prove, but what you feel in your own nature of managing your abilities. "

When we work so hard, and at the end of the day we are satisfied that we have achieved everything we set out to do, that is the best sign that maybe we need to stop.
We should be, and are, the beautiful players of life, the ones who play at many ends understanding the resonability in the landscape of a ride.
We must not say that we can no longer resist, failure can often be a good constructive result, we must not say beautiful things that make us/others feel better, we must let the feelings flow from our acts and words that will later makes us/others feel better.
Let's put a spring in every answer and step of ours, before we are afraid, we are first and foremost human beings, and this is not nothing.
It is "outrageous" and wonderfully increasingly less loss.

If the routine is reliable and we can rely on it, then let's make it mean something to the audience of life. Why not?:flower:
In all relativity it is still quite difficult to have a job in this world, in exchange for a cost, relevance or occupation, why not make it more interactive in our/other favor?

We don't need to be afraid to talk, or talk about what we are afraid of, we have the responsibility in the specificity to feel what is different and to launch this for the benefit of others.
It doesn't matter what our motivation is, or if we need to find one, it's important not to "shoot" the target with the name "I deserve better" to the detriment of a vague goal.
There is no time for anything, people are floating on a pile of information, we all feel we deserve to be part of the conversation, maybe we need to know how to consent to this, it is worth the relevance to be present and not to make mistakes.
We are all, here, available, awake, in a world where everything can be re-contextualized and there is no help maybe, but we are the only ones, however, who choose.

We must, maybe, travel with others today and the show could be everyone's in the end.:heart:

[Savannah]

I think I'm anxious and feel like most here, that something big is happening and it may not be good, at least for a while. Thus I keep reading turning to videos and predictions for answers and over load myself. Its a trap, I know exactly what I'm doing and I lecture others not to do it. I should walk away and ride my bicycle but instead I feel that important piece to the puzzle is just around the corner. I cant read long posts because I'm fried. I'm breathing wild fire smoke and dodging the homeless on the street that have multiplied like weeds. I actually bought a gun and don't know how to use it and never fired one in my life. I'm not alone there is no amo left in CA. I work 50 hrs a week and have a 2hr commute each day. I'm cruising for bruising as they say and here I'm writing another post after a 10hr shift. :frusty:

[rgray222]

I retreated long ago, there is simply too much to keep up with and it is exceptionally difficult to tell who is being honest or who has a financial, political or personal agenda. I try to pick and choose my topic carefully, this applies to this forum and virtually all media. Some topics like Q & 911 can run you so far down the rabbit hole that the end result is frustration and anger. I decided long ago that chasing the rabbit down the hole will only leave me at the bottom of the warren looking at a bunch of like-minded and very friendly but confused rabbits.

[Sue (Ayt)]

I remember reading that book when it first came out. At the time, it seemed pretty speculative to me, although even then things seemed to be speeding up some.

By the time this song came out (1993), though, I really did perceive the phenom happening, and thought, "jeesh - that song nails it!"
I was starting to feel really sorry for the children, who were having their time overly scheduled, with less and less time for imagination, dreaming, and play.
Information itself had become the commodity of power and control.
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The concept of Timewave Zero below (recorded in 1998) is probably another version of this same concept.
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I do wonder about the outcome of all this for humanity, and what we will evolve to next.
Figure all we can do is trust, roll with the punches, contribute what we can, and as I like to say "Hold onto your Hat!"
These truly are amazing times.

[7alon]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

Yep, its so intense that I really don't know how to keep up myself the last two weeks. I still try, but there is a weird squashing energy messing with me. I feel like I can't connect to 'the other side' properly, and I'm having a lot of trouble processing information. My memory feels like I've been zapped by an MIB neuralyzer. I've gone from being able to see the view of everything that's going on from the top of a mountain, to lying in a dumpster wondering how I got there. :facepalm:

Trying to climb back up to the mountain peak, but something really strange is going on energetically. Does anybody else feel like this? There is also a larger signal to noise ratio with all the drama going on in the world, of course, but something really heavy is spiritually sitting on me personally, and others have reported the same feeling to me in private.

[Harmony]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

Yep, its so intense that I really don't know how to keep up myself the last two weeks. I still try, but there is a weird squashing energy messing with me. I feel like I can't connect to 'the other side' properly, and I'm having a lot of trouble processing information. My memory feels like I've been zapped by an MIB neuralyzer. I've gone from being able to see the view of everything that's going on from the top of a mountain, to lying in a dumpster wondering how I got there. :facepalm:

Trying to climb back up to the mountain peak, but something really strange is going on energetically. Does anybody else feel like this? There is also a larger signal to noise ratio with all the drama going on in the world, of course, but something really heavy is spiritually sitting on me personally, and others have reported the same feeling to me in private.

Hey 7alon, I love your description. I can feel something similar, my memory also feels zapped at times and some unexplainable environmental energy change. I am experiencing time differently too sporadiclly.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

Yep, its so intense that I really don't know how to keep up myself the last two weeks. I still try, but there is a weird squashing energy messing with me. I feel like I can't connect to 'the other side' properly, and I'm having a lot of trouble processing information. My memory feels like I've been zapped by an MIB neuralyzer. I've gone from being able to see the view of everything that's going on from the top of a mountain, to lying in a dumpster wondering how I got there. :facepalm:

Trying to climb back up to the mountain peak, but something really strange is going on energetically. Does anybody else feel like this? There is also a larger signal to noise ratio with all the drama going on in the world, of course, but something really heavy is spiritually sitting on me personally, and others have reported the same feeling to me in private.Yes, I feel there's a kind of dense "cluttering" going on, a little like a cup or bowl being filled too full and then overflowing. I take outdoor timeouts every day to rebalance, which feel increasingly valuable.

The way this manifests for me personally is that it often feels there's just too much to do, so I need to prioritize carefully, managing my time and energy like a valuable limited resource. I often come across material or ideas that I'd like to share on the forum, but there's just too much of it, so quite a few things don't get posted... it feels it'd take too much time to do it properly.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/6a/fd/f66afd190e03a87a69dfa25cbfa2954d.jpg

[7alon]

:bump:

Who's starting to really feel this now? :)

Yep, its so intense that I really don't know how to keep up myself the last two weeks. I still try, but there is a weird squashing energy messing with me. I feel like I can't connect to 'the other side' properly, and I'm having a lot of trouble processing information. My memory feels like I've been zapped by an MIB neuralyzer. I've gone from being able to see the view of everything that's going on from the top of a mountain, to lying in a dumpster wondering how I got there. :facepalm:

Trying to climb back up to the mountain peak, but something really strange is going on energetically. Does anybody else feel like this? There is also a larger signal to noise ratio with all the drama going on in the world, of course, but something really heavy is spiritually sitting on me personally, and others have reported the same feeling to me in private.

Hey 7alon, I love your description. I can feel something similar, my memory also feels zapped at times and some unexplainable environmental energy change. I am experiencing time differently too sporadiclly.

Thanks :). Yes time is doing weird things for me as well. I also do agree with Bill's sense of cluttering. And I also agree about how many things there are to share. I would like to share more information, but my brain is overloaded just from trying to take in everything that is happening, let alone writing it up for others to see. As a matter of fact, I haven't been keeping up with ufology anywhere near as much as I should be, especially now of all times.

[RunningDeer]

I’ve felt disconnected for too many months to count. I’ve mostly stopped trying to put focus on things that were once important. The only thing I do is go with the flow, fortunately I’m able because my time is my own. As mentioned elsewhere, the 24 hour days are now more like 12-15 hours.

I’ve finally stopped the incessant drive to know and learn. Rather my goal is to simply be present in the day to day things like dishes, laundry, walks, healthful foods and drink and slow deep breathing.

The last couple of weeks, negative memories pop up are acknowledged and released without fanfare.

I've mostly stopped actively connecting with what comes into my field of vision, thoughts, people and the like, ie “psychic stuff”, but the synch continue to flow. The latest was on Friday when Scott, the carpenter, stopped by for final measurements on the outside deck stairs. I said that some were beginning to split in places. And as if on cue, a piece of wood that secures the stair underneath dropped to the ground. He was a bit taken back by the timing and that it came from the stair that I had pointed out. 

I took a few notes from a video I caught a week or so ago. I have reservations to add because many prefer science and proof but for me the world is rich with the unexplained. It’s from a group that shares what’s happening to them, their friends, family and co-workers. Their view on things is that we’re transitioning from here to where our next adventure takes us.

In many respects I feel the same. Whether the ‘new place’ is here or elsewhere, it’s a continuation of what I’ve lived for years. I don’t recognize what I see across the news channels. That chaos is a place out of time. One that I’m not a part of nor can I ever see living in that space.

Notes:




What might be the symptoms of the pull? Everything we've talked about so far this year. The physical stuff, the emotional stuff, the disconnecting, the boredom. All of it. It’s all symptoms of the pull.

It it feels like a seamless process rather than a this, then that, then this, then that. It just feels like it's going to flow more.

We’re in the out of phase space until Halloween.

Anyone else energy flattened most of August? Yeah. I think that's part of that whole there’s no life left here anymore feeling.

I also do know people who have had injuries, disabilities, chronic for a long long time that are actually healed.

My bottom line is that everything feels really good and just you know be mindful of what you're giving your energy to. If you’ve got any left to give. And if you do find yourself reacting see it as an opportunity to see where the construct still got a hook in you and then clear that clearer program. It’s an individual inside job. Now more than ever be in your heart, follow your gut, your intuition and try to enjoy your final moments.

We are all making a declaration about who we are, our own sovereignty, what we are our choices and we're doing that in every little moment. We’re doing that with our actions, our words and our hearts. That’s what this is all about. We call it the great awakening. And it's even though this is a mind virus that we're purging, the awakening doesn't seem to so much matter in the mind. It matters in the heart. It’s the hearts that are awakening. And it doesn't matter what you get or don't get. How much you learn. How much you realize. The awakening is…the mind is at home and the heart is here.

I think some aspects of us have already gone home. How many of you feel like you are less and less here? So it's like we're going home. We’re transferring the file that we are, home bit by bit, data point by data point. Extracting what we can, when we can.

♡

[greybeard]

Im quite surprised when I wake in the morning and not too pleased that I am --smiling.
Wear the world like a loose garment is more appropriate than ever.
I observe the madness.
Chris

Ps My son when he was in university was quite excited about the future and told me what would happen, not owning cars , not having to work, living income, AI technology, how we would be connected to it, and think up what we wanted and i would be delivered and a lot more besides.

I think some university students were indoctrinate into this "belief" years ago.
They were not told the cost in human freedom.
Perhaps they are unsettled now or not as the case might be.

Chris

[The Moss Trooper]

Captain Rock: To the Future Shock!

v5P5alAoHZQ


Not relevant apart from the title........ But why not!!

:focus:

[RunningDeer]

I’ve felt disconnected for too many months to count. I’ve mostly stopped trying to put focus on things that were once important. The only thing I do is go with the flow, fortunately I’m able because my time is my own. As mentioned elsewhere, the 24 hour days are now more like 12-15 hours.

I’ve finally stopped the incessant drive to know and learn. Rather my goal is to simply be present in the day to day things like dishes, laundry, walks, healthful foods and drink and slow deep breathing.

The last couple of weeks, negative memories pop up are acknowledged and released without fanfare.

I've mostly stopped actively connecting with what comes into my field of vision, thoughts, people and the like, ie “psychic stuff”, but the synch continue to flow. The latest was on Friday when Scott, the carpenter, stopped by for final measurements on the outside deck stairs. I said that some were beginning to split in places. And as if on cue, a piece of wood that secures the stair underneath dropped to the ground. He was a bit taken back by the timing and that it came from the stair that I had pointed out. 

[snip]
♡

Update: I just went out to check the newly refurbish deck before the crew took off. Scott, the carpenter, placed this heart at the bottom of the stairs. Years ago, I buried it as part of a closure ceremony for my son’s passing.

Time for the heart to come home. ♡


http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/Love/heart-comes-home.jpg

[Ernie Nemeth]

I feel we are at a major fork in the road and it scares the beejeebees out of me, if I don't contain it.

I find myself holding my breath, waiting for what comes next. Soon we'll know whether we get to go on with this crazy world or whether we get a new lease on life - and a fresh breath of air!

In our home we call it the apocaclipse, or any other distorted variation. We're as ready as is practical, but we'd rather forgo the entire drama and jump right into a more authentic lifestyle. Either way we are on the way out, but I'd like to see a nice world left behind for my daughter, her kin, and for the peoples of the world.

For me it is my sensibilities that have been ravaged to the point where I am almost numb. I, on the one hand cannot believe this is happening, and on the other I am relieved that it finally has. After all, my life has been about warning others of this very act of impending doom. I find I get little pleasure from being right. In fact, I am rather angry about it.

Ya, my strongest emotion in response to this plandemic is a great deal of anger and frustration. But rising above that is a satisfaction knowing that there is now no arguing that...the game is afoot!



edit to add: the frustration comes mostly from not being able to communicate the many loose threads that are now coming together, completing a comprehensive picture of the giant conspiracy we live as our lives. There are too many connections coming together all at once! One could write a book about each one!

[pyrangello]

Hang in there Ernie , Years ago I went thru a dramatic shift, In 1995 /96 I was making big bucks, employed over 50 people in my company, summer cottage, all the toys, vacation, family ect. All just being a bit over 30 years old. Then the house of cards crashed, Lost my business, home, family, Income, and then was sued for 2 years following and I didn't have any money pushing me deeper into the hole of 3k a month in attorney bills. Had people looking for me to do me harm, and on and on. they stole my ideas for products and all during this time I just kept telling myself its going to get better and one day i'll be sitting back having a beer and go wow what a ride that was. And yes that day did happen. After loosing everything and I mean everything you get to take a perspective on when your at the bottom as you have nothing else more to loose except your being here on earth. But you know what, being at the bottom really gives you deep appreciation of whats really important and that everything right in front of you and within yourself. There's many more good people on this earth than the pieces of shxx people here that have a media platform making things seem like its just horrible out there. Remind yourself of that positive energy out there and hang onto it. Will be OK, I can assure you of that.

[Gracy]

Hopefully, our time on both this forum, and in this general environment, has been utilized as a sort of training session for turbulent times much as for study, and research. The house built on a firm foundation so to speak.

Many probably will be torn apart upon these swirling 4 winds if not properly prepared and grounded, there is no quick fix or substitute for this "training". So I reckon what I would say to you in this time now Ernie, as a veteran of this, is that it's probably time to go within, trust your instincts, most of all trust yourself, and let go of all fear to the best of your ability. Fear and anger can both make our worst nightmares come true.

The same goes for anyone and everyone. Maybe this is "the time", or maybe it's not, but at the very least it can be a good practice run for the real deal. "This could be a good time!"

I always especially liked this line of the Hopi Prophecy, and it looks very applicable right now:


Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, “This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.

And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey come to a halt.
https://clinicalaffairs.umn.edu/covid-19-updates/we-are-ones-we%E2%80%99ve-been-waiting-prophecy-made-hopi-elders

[Bill Ryan]

A little commentary here, thinking aloud, just to bump the thread. :sun:

When people are affected by Future Shock, they often just get overwhelmed and maybe even confused. Then the reaction to that is that they kind of start to shut down.

They contract into a smaller personal universe, as if self-medicating. Like a dog hiding under the table in a corner chewing its soft toy for a while. :bearhug:

So they often eat, or drink, or fall into video games, or latch on to small things which are comfortable, or only read articles or follow news feeds which are easy to absorb or deal with.

(A little healthier may be other ways to break the stress — like gardening, hiking, yoga, meditation, or really any creative activity at all. :flower: )

To keep the biggest picture in view is very UNcomfortable. On Avalon, we definitely do that, but we also provide balance with music, aesthetics, wildlife & natural beauty, humor, remarkable personal stories, and so on. That's so very important. Like taking a break for a little chocolate and a hot drink, pausing to admire the awesome view while on a difficult and strenuous mountain climb.*

Some members, like determined wolves on the hunt, can't always easily do that. So between us all, we somehow have to balance all that out. Fortunately, that's always been one of Avalon's great strengths, encompassing every part of the human experience.

:heart:
* Note to self: I really do have to share one very funny story about that sometime, but not on this thread. :)

[thepainterdoug]

Bill / great observation as well as a reminder to us all . Avalon is as diverse in its variety of topics ,as it is in its diversity of people, gender ,Country, location , age, , ethnicity and opinion. it truly is what the members and visitors make and take from it.
People here are tolerant of varying opinions and I credit you and the moderators for keeping it a wonderful resource for 10 years and counting.
The best on the net.

[amor]

Dear Autumn W: Thank you for giving me a very satisfying, lengthy belly laugh complete with tears to your cleverly worded post. Hope you are well.
To those others above: With all of you taking off to the Forest my response is, "Where is it?" Most of the USA as seen on the internet looks as though it was formerly the bottom of the SEA. That should make it rich with minerals and good for growing healthy crops. Just try to buy any of it, impossible. It is time to have people walk out of the horrible cities and commandeer the land as once they did, and recreate the life of yesteryear. It is not an easy life, but with more knowledge today it could be more comfortable. Small units of population in towns where people interact as they formerly did is a healthier way to live instead of being herded into pens in cities to be slaughtered by 5G radiation so that the Fourth Reich can have the Earth to themselves. That is their plot folks.

[amor]

Thanks to thepainterdoug for starting the subject of not enough time to get through it all. My advice is to move to a small community in North Central Florida which it appears is less crowded, and except for two weeks in February the weather is bearable.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

This year, I have faced extraordinary physical,challenges and have learned to trust my body’s innate wisdom. I have no doubt that many here are more advanced in their spiritual paths. They remain focused and positive in the face of an extremely challenging time. I speak for those a little less accomplished. It’s ok if you are feeling stuck, angry, frustrated, unhappy, and quarrelsome at times. Those feelings aren’t you, they’re emotions being experienced by you. You are not alone.

[Mike Gorman]

I recall Terence McKenna speaking about the increasing speed of everything, information and 'Novelty', we are at this point it seems to me.

[Catsquotl]

I recall Terence McKenna speaking about the increasing speed of everything, information and 'Novelty', we are at this point it seems to me.


Seems like a golden opportunity to practice discernment. this I do want to engage with, that I don't.
Do you have a link where he speaks or writes about it?
Terrence on information and novelty sounds like something I do want to spend a little more time with.


With Love
Eelco

[Operator]

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Terrence on information and novelty sounds like something I do want to spend a little more time with.


With Love
Eelco

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna


Died April 3, 2000 (aged 53)

[palehorse]

I recall Terence McKenna speaking about the increasing speed of everything, information and 'Novelty', we are at this point it seems to me.


Seems like a golden opportunity to practice discernment. this I do want to engage with, that I don't.
Do you have a link where he speaks or writes about it?
Terrence on information and novelty sounds like something I do want to spend a little more time with.


With Love
Eelco


As a big fan of Terrence, I had been listening to his "tapes" for a very long time now, I uploaded it in a torrent circa 2008, but it seems like always someone is coming up with a new found ones and it became pointless to me to keep up doing that.. Lorenzo from psychedelic salon is the one who has a lot of materials of Terrence, also he knew Terrence personally and he is always coming up with new found "tapes", Terrence was very well connected and he left a lot of resources spread everywhere, Lorenzo try to put it all together in one place which is a good idea, but I still see materials of him elsewhere popping up now and then.. hard to centralize this things.

Here we go with "Valley of Novelty" https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-310-introduction-to-the-valley-of-novelty-workshop/

Terrence was very aware about this information era we are living currently, he was a great person as well, a friend of mine met him in California once and they spent hours talking about aliens and other stuffs like they were best friends. All the info I got from Terrence was because of my friend who introduced me to his materials when I was about 16 years old, and back in 2000/2001 after his death I was converting old VHS tapes interviews into digital to make it available in websites and forums on internet, some of this materials still up there on youtube but I am not engaged on this anymore.

Also there is this guy called Jason Silva from Venezuela, I used to like him before he went total mainstream, he was like part of Terrence alive and speaking, the way he "touch" the viewer attention is just amazing, total control of the words.

Sorry to go a bit off topic..

[RunningDeer]

Do you have a link where he speaks or writes about it?
Terrence on information and novelty sounds like something I do want to spend a little more time with.

With Love
Eelco

Terence McKenna Archive (https://www.youtube.com/c/TerenceMcKennaTube/videos) (vids)

Terence Mckenna Quotes - here (https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/9243.Terence_McKenna) & here (https://theunboundedspirit.com/73-mind-blowing-terence-mckenna-quotes/)

[JackMcThorn]

I remember observing maybe around 2o1o that there was 55,ooo years of reading material available on the internet.

Wow, I thought, this is impossible until I realised much of which is irrelevant, or even worthless to a person at a time.

Usually, when you need to find something, you should be able to quite quickly.

Otherwise, there is something new every day. Learning something new every day becomes easier.

I still make time for books. Sort of.

I enjoy reading PA. I do skip around a lot. I think if someone doesn't make their point right away, I have to move on.

If we use some brevity, hopefully we make our point and others can move on quickly.

Cheers

[thepainterdoug]

Jack said;

"I enjoy reading PA. I do skip around a lot. I think if someone doesn't make their point right away, I have to move on."

If we use some brevity, hopefully we make our point and others can move on quickly.


AGREED !

along with this I have been advocating that video makers presenting vital info eliminate all catchy art, music and filler associated with entertainment upon the start. The second I start a video and see alien grays, explosions, slick stuff or any kind of eye candy other than the critical information, Im out.

We are in a time where we need to reboot and cleanse our attention palette . I dont want to see art everywhere, hear music filling every scenario and Im certainly not interested in seeing a tatoo above every womans butt crack.

any artist knows throwing white on a canvas doesnt make your picture bright.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump::bump::bump:

[Bill Ryan]

I posted this on the Trump shooting thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1629625&viewfull=1#post1629625) yesterday.

~~~

One thing that isn't being discussed enough is how the accelerating fast-forward news cycle is deliberately taken advantage of by the Deep State (or whoever the heck is really running things) to obfuscate and memory-hole any inconvenient truths (or anomalous events) from being seriously discussed — or even remember4ed at all.

There's not enough free human time and attention any more to attend properly to ANY of this, save for just a tiny few who stick at it all. What that means is that seriously bad things can happen more and more blatantly with minimal risk of of any exposure for what they really are.

The even greater risk is that because of this, AI will be used to 'assist' people's thinking and belief-forming about global events in a torrent-flood of new information in the media every day. That's how the once-conceived threat of open discussion on social media will be handled. Social media is close to not really mattering any more.

The Trump shooting is a prime case study of exactly this. In a mere few weeks (or sooner!), no-one at all will be talking about this. It'll have been swept way way downstream in the torrent flood of new information.

[Bruce G Charlton]

@Bill: This is a relevant passage from a book I published a decade ago Addicted to Distraction: psychological consequences of the mass media (http://addictedtodistraction.blogspot.com/).

The most profound truths, the most lasting experiences, our most precious memories are swept away like a drop of crystal water in a daily torrent of polluted outflow. If you unresistingly, enthusiastically consume the Mass Media – it is like standing in the path of a massive effluent pipe with your mouth wide open.

But the fact that most of the output of the Mass Media is a pollutant is not the worst problem; the worst problem is that the mode by which the Mass Media communicates become habitual – until it becomes very difficult to think in any other fashion.

Even if the Mass Media was emanating the purest springwater – the sheer volume would drown-us.

The worst problem is that by consuming such a lot of the Mass Media for such a lot of our lives, we are entrained to its cognitive mode: the mode of permanent revolution; that mode becomes habitual, normal – and eventually unavoidable.

It becomes our engrained practice – as individuals – to be absolutist in our opinions, intolerant of opposition and dissent; yet to swap and change and invert our opinions in line with fashion and expediency, on the basis that we regard nothing as permanent and true; and ‘reality’ as something manufactured, not discovered.

Ultimately, such is his state of dependence; modern Man cannot think otherwise, but only in the way that the Mass Media thinks.

[Ravenlocke]

Hello Everyone,

I didn't even know this thread was here. Thanks Bill for the “Bump”.
How shall I put it? (Just my observations not a complaint).
All this massive amount of information available, and happening, changing quickly, yes I do feel I cannot keep up but more importantly it distracts me so much and takes up most of my time to the point that I feel lost, as in I have lost my connection to God/Source. I feel like I am missing out on what I am meant to do, to learn even, and to be connected to what my soul really yearns for, and to pray and send blessings as I call it.
It has also made me acutely aware of how quickly time is passing especially when engrossed in what I call “information gathering”. There is so much to catch up on on every topic I want to know about, from geopolitics, to disclosure, to hidden knowledge, etc. Yet spending a lot of time in pursuit of this knowledge also makes me feel empty inside and very fragmented.
In conclusion, I find I am peaceful, content, creative, appreciative when I’m disconnected.:Angel::flower:

[HopSan]

@Bill: This is a relevant passage from a book I published a decade ago Addicted to Distraction: psychological consequences of the mass media (http://addictedtodistraction.blogspot.com/).

The most profound truths, the most lasting experiences, our most precious memories are swept away like a drop of crystal water in a daily torrent of polluted outflow. If you unresistingly, enthusiastically consume the Mass Media – it is like standing in the path of a massive effluent pipe with your mouth wide open.

But the fact that most of the output of the Mass Media is a pollutant is not the worst problem; the worst problem is that the mode by which the Mass Media communicates become habitual – until it becomes very difficult to think in any other fashion.

Even if the Mass Media was emanating the purest springwater – the sheer volume would drown-us.

The worst problem is that by consuming such a lot of the Mass Media for such a lot of our lives, we are entrained to its cognitive mode: the mode of permanent revolution; that mode becomes habitual, normal – and eventually unavoidable.

It becomes our engrained practice – as individuals – to be absolutist in our opinions, intolerant of opposition and dissent; yet to swap and change and invert our opinions in line with fashion and expediency, on the basis that we regard nothing as permanent and true; and ‘reality’ as something manufactured, not discovered.

Ultimately, such is his state of dependence; modern Man cannot think otherwise, but only in the way that the Mass Media thinks.

Thanks, BGC, and others, two points:

1), In part my life, now, very confused:

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2) World is happening, changing so fast, that even the fastest cannot follow.

My very fast late wife felt like being behind, despite being (in my opinion) far ahead of the masses.

Hunch, today:

The world is changing, a new 'phase' of 'civilization' is beginning.
Previous 'phases' ended 1914 and 1990.

[Bill Ryan]

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[Mike Gorman]

What would 'being all caught up and absolutely informed actually look like?' I mean that human beings are continuously discovering, and creating their world view in 'real time' there is no ultimate, or absolute point of being informed: which is why we are each like specialists, we each have a talent or focus that takes our attention and we become more informed about a specialised aspect/subject. Terrence McKenna spoke of this acceleration and increase in psychological momentum, the 'singularity': which is very different to the 'AI' singularity of later speculation - I tend to agree with McKenna regarding 'Novelty' and the end point of human consciousness whereby our own perceptions of our universe becomes totally interlinked with the universal intention of maximum novelty and creative potential, perhaps we are destined to become the Gods who gave us our existence, who combined our genetic materials with the 'Monkey stuff' mixed with their own image, their own genes-creating this Human hybrid race that has infinite potential to access the universal energies the very stuff of creation? Our minds shall never be surpassed by computer brains, AI is a red herring (very useful but it will never be greater than us).

[Mike]

Interesting synchronicity: I was at a used bookstore yesterday, just scanning the shelves willy-nilly, and I saw this book, Future Shock by Alvin Toffler.

The irony kind of broke my brain because seeing it there felt like a nudge from the universe to read it but I've got a bunch of books at home I'm committed to reading first. I'm too bogged down to read the book about being bogged down lol.

[Dilettante]

I picked up Toffler’s Future Shock yesterday because of this thread!

Had to browse through a bunch of slop at Barnes and Noble to even find it. It was in the sociology section, but 80% of that section was identity politics. There was only a single bookcase for philosophy and they did not have Baudrillard’s Simulacra and Simulation, which surprised me. They had plenty of Nietzsche though, who I don’t even mind, but you can tell what political skew his philosophy emphasizes. Plenty of critiques of the Church, but none for the Mosque or Synagogue? Point taken.

It’s struck me in libraries as well that there is so much fluff, or soft reading. I swear most of it is computer generated or ghost written at this point. But look at the ratio of fiction, romance, fantasy, sci-fi, mystery, and western novels to mathematics, philosophy, textbooks, and non-fiction. It’s clear that many people read to escape the world, not deepen their knowledge of it. That’s always been odd to me. I had a professor in college who thought we could eventually simulate anything we wanted to within a computer world. I pointed out to him that our reality would still supersede that one because it contains the computer that runs the simulation. He said he had never considered that before. I just sort of shut up and walked away.

[edina]

I picked up Toffler’s Future Shock yesterday because of this thread!

Had to browse through a bunch of slop at Barnes and Noble to even find it. It was in the sociology section, but 80% of that section was identity politics.


I remember when that book first came out. At the time, it was all the rage... probably aging myself a bit, I was still in elementary school.

For any one interested in it, it's in the Avalon Library, as is a follow-up book on the topic (https://avalonlibrary.net/?search=Alvin+Toffler). (There was another, that's not in the Avalon Library.)

The Avalon library is a gem. (smiles to bluegreen, Tintin, and all the many people who have contributed over the years.)

Side note: I checked out Baudrillard’s Simulacra and Simulation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation) because of your mention here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105362-I-can-t-keep-up-any-more.-The-world-of-Future-Shock-is-already-here&p=1663256&viewfull=1#post1663256). Interesting... :sun: