LUCIFER in the Temple of the Dog (or, why the internet is a bad thing)

[Nine]

Bill,

First of all thank you for re-activating my account.

Could you give this a read?

https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2016/11/lucifer-in-temple-of-dog-i.html

Very disturbing article posted by one of my pals.

thanx

Nine

[Bill Ryan]

Bill,

First of all thank you for re-activating my account.

Could you give this a read?

https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2016/11/lucifer-in-temple-of-dog-i.html

Very disturbing article posted by one of my pals.

Well, I skimmed it, but I confess only that. It's over 7,000 words, very arcane, and the title was Lucifer in Temple of Dog I — which I didn't understand, and (though only skimming) could find no other reference to in the text.

To persuade me to study it carefully (which might need a good hour or so), I'd need at least a readable executive summary at the beginning.

[petra]

Bill,

First of all thank you for re-activating my account.

Could you give this a read?

https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2016/11/lucifer-in-temple-of-dog-i.html

Very disturbing article posted by one of my pals.

Well, I skimmed it, but I confess only that. It's over 7,000 words, very arcane, and the title was Lucifer in Temple of Dog I — which I didn't understand, and (though only skimming) could find no other reference to in the text.

To persuade me to study it carefully (which might need a good hour or so), I'd need at least a readable executive summary at the beginning.

This part stood out to me: "The empirical evidence is overwhelming that the human brain works in the exact same manner as a hologram.". My thoughts already tried to convince me I was a hologram... and for a while I thought I was one (I'm dubious again lol). EDIT: I also noticed Lucifer's not in any content except the title.

[onawah]

The article corroborates the idea that we are living in a hologram, which the Wingmakers material concurs with, and which I have the hardest time wrapping my head around. (And whether our more localized hologram is one of Anu's design (the Wingmaker theory) is an even more puzzling proposition, but at this point, it seems anything is possible.)
Just speculating: Wingmakers predicts that there will be scientific discoveries that will enable humanity to escape the Anu-created hologram, and counteract the technologies designed to entrap us in transhumanism, and it would certainly seem likely that understanding more about holograms would be part of those discoveries.
An excerpt:
"Ancient Aliens is a show that is often painful to watch yet is a necessity for any serious student of human history. The show has by far its finest moment in its decade long existence when it proposes that the Aborigines concept of the dreamtime matches a leading edge property of String Theory called the “Holographic paradigm.”

There are tears in the fabric of Man’s reality that upon scrutiny open to abysses of darkness. Quantum entanglement as been proven over and over again in laboratories whose annual budget would bankrupt a small country.
Einstein was wrong and his precious “particles” do react with each other by some mechanism that travels faster than light. Anyone who’s ever had a premonition should have known that…
In the Holographic universe, quantum entanglement the enigma of superluminal interaction between particles –what a baffled Einstein called “spooky action at a distance,” petulantly denying its existence in the face of all the evidence (even then) 6 – is easily explained. What are being observed in particle physics are not particles at all, but different aspects of interference patterns generated by the collision of spherical frequency waves emanating from an Event Horizon.
The Holographic paradigm postulates, in fact takes it as a given, that at the threshold of the time-space continuum, what physicists call the cosmological horizon, lay the source of everything that is, ever was, or will be.
The information that composes the universe is never lost or changed. It’s immutable and is broadcast in oscillating signals, generating a chaotic sea of fluctuating frequencies that are picked up by mans senses and translated by the mind into the three dimensional world in which he finds himself.

In short, consciousness takes place inside a frequency receiver and “reality” is a television show…
The empirical evidence is overwhelming that the human brain works in the exact same manner as a hologram. This is called the Holonomic brain theory by neuroscientists. Many just cannot accept its implications. But its founder Karl Pribram, who held professorships for ten years at Yale and thirty at Stanford, was the Albert Einstein of neuroscience…
Pribram died in the beginning of 2015 at the age of ninety-five after a long and distinguished career working side by side with such giants in science as BF Skinner, John von Neumann and David Bohm; arguably the most brilliant physicist that the Anglo-American empire produced during the twentieth century.
Bohm collaborated closely with Pribram in the formulation of the Holonomic brain theory, but his earlier radical communist political affiliations would have barred him from the inner sanctums of the Stanford Research Institute."
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XSYnPYe1uWo/WBsrOVFqF2I/AAAAAAAAA3Q/OXo1hAN7eW0PI89cjUhCIDeG3p77HzcpACEw/s320/LIGHT-PARTICLE-OR-WAVE.jpg

Bill,

First of all thank you for re-activating my account.

Could you give this a read?

https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2016/11/lucifer-in-temple-of-dog-i.html

Very disturbing article posted by one of my pals.

Well, I skimmed it, but I confess only that. It's over 7,000 words, very arcane, and the title was Lucifer in Temple of Dog I — which I didn't understand, and (though only skimming) could find no other reference to in the text.

To persuade me to study it carefully (which might need a good hour or so), I'd need at least a readable executive summary at the beginning.

[Nine]

Bill,

First of all thank you for re-activating my account.

Could you give this a read?

https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2016/11/lucifer-in-temple-of-dog-i.html

Very disturbing article posted by one of my pals.

Well, I skimmed it, but I confess only that. It's over 7,000 words, very arcane, and the title was Lucifer in Temple of Dog I — which I didn't understand, and (though only skimming) could find no other reference to in the text.

To persuade me to study it carefully (which might need a good hour or so), I'd need at least a readable executive summary at the beginning.

Bill,

As you only skimmed the article in question and I bet judging from your contact page here that you get thousands of questions however, the temple of the dog is a reference to the Dog star and all of the lore connected with it and the author to lead up to the connection of the myth to the reality of science had to lay it out the way he did and even this article is only a scratch on the scratch of the surface of the truth of our reality just an opinion of course Bill.

Bill, I will attempt a summery of the article for your perusal but will need some time as I am an ultra cyclist and even though its winter here in America I am training for a race in early February and have little time right now.

It is my experience in life that truth is a myth...

Regards...

Nine

[Nine]

Bill,

I just got back home from a winter bike ride with some conversations with dear friends and of course a beer right now as I have time to write about life as life is worth living of course the ultimate purpose of the internet is to pull down man kind.

I know a bold irrational statement as why do I cycle and for unbelievable miles in Wisconsin winters as the simple answer is that I can.

A combination of technology and willpower

Shakespeare said it best as all the worlds a stage

That in a simple nutshell is what Jack Hearts Temple of the dog is all about

absolutely brilliant site as I see your system of Government demonstrated

I mean Project Avalon

absolutely magnificent

regards


Nine

[Nine]

Bill,

you either read it or you dont.

just an opinion as my pal said this site a psyopps as I disagree...q

just an opinion

[Nine]

I thought what a breath of fresh air but the truth is not about air


said this we must love one another

banned by the alt right....

love way past regards...

[Nine]

Is not love a mystery?

that third part of that trinity called the spirit

said this as I left I sent him to guide one and all

Mistery is divinity

I am watching love overcome

in front of me

love demonstrated

said this love is a mystery


Nine

[Nine]

Bill,

In regards to a thumbnail on the Jack Heart article I posted here I wrote the author as he is a dear friend of mine and he said that that is not his best work and says this that every word is in its place to convey the meaning of our reality.

Part One:

https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2017/03/peter-pan-meets-pyramid-head-part-i.html

Part two:


https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2017/04/peter-pan-meets-pyramid-head-ii.html


And part three:


https://jackheart2014.blogspot.com/2017/05/peter-pan-meets-pyramid-head-iii.html


I know this is a lot to read and process but this is hard science and as I believe fact as Jack is a whistle blower who has had every thing stripped away from him in this world due to his unique experiences and this is well worth a read.

Regards,

Nine

[Nine]

What is the purpose of the internet?

Many say its like the press of old that led to the Reformation as I hardily disagree however, great truth is told upon the internet yet its ultimate purpose is to enslave humanity as I have observed normal rational people who can not function in real life.

With the rise of conspiricy's of all kinds shapes and forms upon the net designed to divide people families and Churches and business organizations and I have observed this first hand in real life from friends who can no longer function in society among normal humans in a normal social situation.

It's like a mental disorder as many involved in internet conspiracy can not recognize a fact if their life depended upon it and hence with Avalon and Wade Frazier I see the big picture in terms of a new "Bible" of science in a new age as Pilot once said what is truth?

That is why the works of Jack Heart are a must read....

Nine

[Nine]

This is the heart of any Jack Heart article

we control the wave function

manipulate it in any time

love your form of government

censor anytime


Nine

[Nine]

Censorship?

what we see now is a world without it

how do we live in such a world?

in him when we prey we say

give us this day


as our needs are met

about says it

poetry denighability


nine

[ramus]

Is Psilocybin legal in Wisconsin ?

[Nine]

Wade,

I do not share your enthusiasm about the internet as I believe it is a weapon of mass destruction of humanity.

The internet's purpose is to distract humans from real life and focus
Upon blips on a computer screen. I have friends whose whole lives have been taken up
By useless conspiracy and these folks are extremely fact resistant and a fact presented with plain evidence is rejected for some 'net conspiricy.

As facts have been made irrelevant by the 'net as that's the truth I see.

Just an opinion Wade

Nine

[Nine]

The real science of the empire is classified and hence the purpose of Avalon which is to entertain the retards.

To strong of a statement? Well, real physics is not from uncle Albert but Von Neumann whose every important work on the wave function is classified to this day.

Von Neumann's past time at Prinston? Blasting Prussian marching music on his grahmaphone to irritate uncle Albert who promptly whined to the authorities who did nothing about it and so genius is as genius does!

I also disagree with you upon the imminent collapse of the empire and the markets and banks that support it as our main export is our soldier's and we have an unlimited supply of them with the new weapon called the internet.

Just another opinion Wade.

Nine

[Nine]

Von Neumann the man of the twentieth century!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann

N

[Valerie Villars]

I thought this was more of an essay thread? Am I incorrect?

[Ernie Nemeth]

Another who needs correction...Wade'll set it straight.

[Nine]

Here is my thesis. Try talking to a moon landing denigher or a flat earth advocate.

I double dog dare you to try. I gave up since the internet proved it true;)

Seriously, I gave up...

Nine

[Nine]

Have a conspiracy theory? Why write an essay and post it on the 'net and then get a followin and maybe a YouTube account or a Patreon account and just because it's written does not make it the least bit true.

At least Wade has his essay on his site breaking down many if not all relevant science and understanding yet at the same time he is open to new idea's as he posts on this blog.

However, science that controls the energy issue is I am afraid classified by all world governments and Wade's story is about what was done to him by the empire for daring to change things.

That is why I read him. I consult his written works when dealing with the internet retards I am surrounded by.

As of late it's the worst I have ever seen it!

The internet? A weapon of mass distraction...


Nine

[Bill Ryan]

I thought this was more of an essay thread? Am I incorrect?

[Mod note from Bill]

Val (quoted above) was referring to Wade Frazier's thread, where I just moved 11 posts to this thread: now posts #11-21 here.

And yes, you're right: that thread is basically Wade's personal blog. He's happy to take occasional questions, and enter into some dialog, but Nine (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?22170-Nine) was starting to 'spam' the thread really way too much. It's really Wade's own personal thing.

My request to Nine (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?22170-Nine): do by all means post about the internet all you like, but on THIS thread. And I'm very happy to change the thread title, which I still don't understand, and which I just copied from the article you referenced.

Just let me know by PM or by replying here, and it's easy for mods to change the thread title to something that more people will realize is somehow connected to the problems of the internet. THX.

:focus:

[Nine]

I pity you my dearest wade handled as you are.

Regards

N

[Nine]

Look up on duck duck go Jack Heart.

You are welcome dear wade on our forum as many of my pals need to here your focas on energy issues.

N

[Nine]

Redirected not censored

Excellent form of governance

You need to watch the big Labowski and relax

I am just a dude

Nine

[Nine]

It's on Netflix

Hey believe what you want but all the worlds a stage

N

[Nine]

Excellent.

Apologies

Then we can discuss the issues

Excellent form of governance

My federal family could learn!

N

[Nine]

The first thing I will do upon being redirected is to apologize to this community as I see this community as love directed reminds me of where I attend church.

Regards

N

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Bill:

I thought that Paul had erased Nine’s posts (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1265173&viewfull=1#post1265173), then Paul said that you were my guardian angel. Thanks Bill, for looking out for me!

Yes, Nine was getting a little too “posty.” He posted nothing on my thread for years, and then that. Paul replied well (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1265115&viewfull=1#post1265115) to Nine’s posts.

Hi Nine:

You did go overboard, young man, and I understand why Bill did it. If you think that the Internet is so harmful, then why are you using it and contributing to it? :)

If I think of the Internet today, while it is a great and unprecedented tool, it also reflects the human condition today. Porn was the first money-maker on the Internet, China controls its Internet content in police-state fashion, but the West is achieving similar ends by different means, such as what happened when I tried to correct Ed Herman’s bio at Wikipedia (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/105-My-Edward-Herman-biography-project/page3?p=1368&viewfull=1#post1368). Ed was a media analyst (http://ahealedplanet.net/herman.htm#manufacturing) extraordinaire, so the disinformation version of his bio today is kind of fitting, and Ed was one of the first to warn of what could happen to the Internet (http://ahealedplanet.net/herman.htm#global). So, we have huge interests attempting to control the Internet, but when John Q. Public has the floor, little more than gossip is heard in cyberspace, and yes, conspiracist gossip is prevalent. The Onion, as usual, said it best on the Moon landings (https://www.theonion.com/conspiracy-theorist-convinces-neil-armstrong-moon-landi-1819570978). :)

So far, Avalon is the only forum that I have had significant involvement in where I was not beset by trolls, and in those forums, usually the admins then started in on me, usually by parroting outright disinformation on Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#article). Some of the trolls were professionals, but the vast majority was just people doing what they do, which only confirms my journey’s primary lesson (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/93-Lessons-learned-from-my-journey-with-Dennis/page6?p=708&viewfull=1#post708).

It is kind of ironic that you stated on my thread that the Internet is a tool of mass distraction. I have refused to have a phone with data. I only got a cell phone when it was required at my job (my company sold the first premium content on cell phones, ringtones, 15 years ago), and my wife forced me to get a smart phone several years ago, but I only use it to play music from my collection. I don’t have data turned on, and have refused to join the smart-phone “distracted” crowd.

Best wishes,

Wade

[ramus]

Nine.....Here is an opinion, your a di.k ... from one of the retards. It appears you'll go the way Shark did.

[RunningDeer]

Nine.....Here is an opinion, your a di.k ... from one of the retards. It appears you'll go the way Shark did.

The Project Avalon Community Forum FAQ (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/faq.php?faq=avalonguidelines#faq_membershipguidelines)

{snip}

C: Personal Behavior

Personal attacks on threads, singling out and ‘targeting’ any member in a derogatory or disrespectful way, is totally against the principles we seek to embody and represent. If you feel upset with another member, either report the issue to the moderators so that they may help if they can, or (respectfully!) take it up with (and WORK it out with) the member concerned — privately.

Mods - you are welcome to delete this post. :wave:

[Bill Ryan]

Nine.....Here is an opinion, your a di.k ... from one of the retards. It appears you'll go the way Shark did.

The Project Avalon Community Forum FAQ (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/faq.php?faq=avalonguidelines#faq_membershipguidelines)

{snip}

C: Personal Behavior

Personal attacks on threads, singling out and ‘targeting’ any member in a derogatory or disrespectful way, is totally against the principles we seek to embody and represent. If you feel upset with another member, either report the issue to the moderators so that they may help if they can, or (respectfully!) take it up with (and WORK it out with) the member concerned — privately.

Mods - you are welcome to delete this post. :wave:

:)

This has been a little tricky to moderate, as ramus was of course replying to this:
I consult his written works when dealing with the internet retards I am surrounded by.

One of the problems on this thread has been that Nine is sometimes rather hard to understand, so to some degree he is hoist with his own petard.* Is he talking about the retards on Avalon, or the retards elsewhere? It remains unclear. (But I guess we could ask him!)

*From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard: Shakespeare's phrase, "hoist with his own petard", is an idiom that means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall into one's own trap", implying that one could be lifted (blown) upward by one's own bomb, or in other words, be foiled by one's own plan.

[ramus]

His exact words.."The real science of the empire is classified and hence the purpose of Avalon which is to entertain the retards."

My conclusion remains the same.

[Nine]

I stand by my quote ramus,

However, that is a general statement as I don't have the inclination nor time to answer it right now as real life has interfered but I agree with the actions taken here in general. And yes, the energy issues remain classified to this day and of course I went to far as our dearest Wade has scolded me. I will take it from him but not you however, all the worlds a stage and I apologize for my actions and Wade paid a great price for his "education" as did I and I know what I am talking about.

Believe it or not matters not...

Wade Frazier is one of the best on the ole 'net...

Nine

[Nine]

The big Lebowski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0aDEvmf5u0

Its on Netflix. Yes that is the internet. More truth there than almost anywhere in America.

To understand conspiracy one must pay attention to the dude as why did he go upon his adventure? Someone pissed on his rug.

The big one on the 'netoccracy is 9/11 troof as we can change da world and here is the truth and you can't.

It's classified however, what we probably all agree on is that foreign enemies of the United States along with domestic enemies of the US conspired to bring down those towers and further if you would put on your thinking cap would not our authorities keep a lot of information secret? Not to tip them off?

It's classified, so go about your real life as I am.

I will give some personal experiences with real life people who have been seriously effected by the conspiracy side of the internet and I regularly consult Wade Frazier's work to refute some of the absolute nonsense I have been confronted with in real life and hence my anger.

Nine

[Mike Gorman]

The fact that a percentage of people choose to get duped by various popular movements, they are not even conspiracy theories, does not mean the internet is evil-it just means there will always be a percentage of gullible, uneducated and silly people who cannot think critically, or for themselves. There was always a percentage of folks who followed chain letters, and read certain magazines and books prior to the internet also-don't blame the internet for stupid people, they are always with us. I do not support the current fashion to consider social media, or the internet as being weaponized, or evil-the Silicon Valley tech giants need to brought to heel-but TCP/IP and the WWW are incredible developments which have massively amplified human potential.

[Nine]

The fact that a percentage of people choose to get duped by various popular movements, they are not even conspiracy theories, does not mean the internet is evil-it just means there will always be a percentage of gullible, uneducated and silly people who cannot think critically, or for themselves. There was always a percentage of folks who followed chain letters, and read certain magazines and books prior to the internet also-don't blame the internet for stupid people, they are always with us. I do not support the current fashion to consider social media, or the internet as being weaponized, or evil-the Silicon Valley tech giants need to brought to heel-but TCP/IP and the WWW are incredible developments which have massively amplified human potential.

I am watching Game of Thrones upon the internet and I can tell you this that is how the world works with all the little games and intrigues and such but I disagree with your assessment of the basic function of the 'netoccrocy as it is a weapon. Maybe the term "weapon" is the wrong term to use maybe the term control would be more apropos?

Wade Fraizer as usual is absolutely brilliant with his quote about the Moon Landings on the onion! Simply hilariously brilliant...

Mike, do watch my link to the high lites of the Big Lebowski as you will find it most instructive.

Wade is of course like a lot of my Boomer pals without children as my children got me into the smart phone thing and matter of fact I have a 5 year old Iphone 5c that I have modified to link to my high end windows system paid for by the empire. In the palm of my hand I can watch 'flix and listen to music and I mean on the 'net and also access my personal files on the go. The biggest waste? The yearly smart phone upgrade and where did I get this 5c phone? From my Daughter as she upgraded along with my wife. My next Iphone upgrade will be a 6s as its my wife's current Iphone when she upgrades this summer.

Actually she feels that an upgrade even this Summer would be a waste of money since the phone she has, the 6s is an incredible piece of technology and it simply meets all of her technology needs.

My data use in my house is probably below average but I do use it from my primary Net connection from Spectrum along with a WiFi router to all the devices that family members have and use daily.

shut off the smart phone and save 200 a month course that is a first world problem

end of story as they are ****ed

Nine

[ramus]

I'm refusing to response for the same reasons that Nine uses ...just retards on the internet..

[ramus]

Nine:
"Wade has scolded me. I will take it from him but not you however"

I'm not looking for an apology, but you should get one from your therapist.

[Nine]

Nine.....Here is an opinion, your a di.k ... from one of the retards. It appears you'll go the way Shark did.

The physical threats are gone? Why? As how could you carry them out? Reach your hand out over the Net?

You are clearly angry with my comments as why not refute them except that you can't. Take a look at Wade's blog and his approach to it as he believes that he will save humanity with his "choir idea" as maybe and I love the title of his blog. A healed planet. However, its classified and will never change no matter how many tunes are sung and go ahead as it can not hurt!

The search for choir members? Weeding threw the retards on Avalon such as you ramus. Obviously you can not read between the lines of my posts and possibly see a bigger picture? The reason for my posts was to discuss Jack Heart's work as he is reading this and I quote him "its like trying to start a social and political movement with a bunch of lawn furniture" he said it and I agree.

[Nine]

Chicago movin on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORlLudoq5l8

Listen to Lee blow that trumpet. magnifico!

What are friends but potential enemies

best to have none

said this where I attend church that love is demonstrated

one must love his enemy

that is truth

Nine

[Nine]

So, who would interpret this for me from VT?


https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/12/24/intel-drop-ask-santa-for-a-gun-trumps-christmas-of-chaos-and-crow/

Gordon at his best...

course violence concentrated in black neighborhoods and then broad cast upon fox news

like in Palestine perhaps?

send in a black plague to move out the whites for land that they want to steal

face it our planet under foreign control


Nine

[Bill Ryan]

Weeding threw the retards on Avalon such as you ramus.

ENOUGH. I'm re-retiring your account. While any discussion about the pros and cons of the internet is a GOOD thing (there are many things to criticize and be genuinely concerned about, as I listed here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1265047&viewfull=1#post1265047)), the way you're trying to promote a discussion about it is all wrong and isn't working — at ALL.

Thanks for your efforts, but in any future exchanges with any group of people about things you care about, you have to


Be clear and explain exactly what your viewpoints are, and why.
Listen well.
Be respectful.

:focus:

[Strat]

I thought this was more of an essay thread? Am I incorrect?

Upon reading the title I genuinely thought it was going to be something regarding the Temple of the Dog album. Ya know, backwards track lucifer kinda thing.

[Wade Frazier]

Farewell, Nine. Best wishes on your biking, music, and attempts to figure it all out.

Wade

[Valerie Villars]

I thought this was more of an essay thread? Am I incorrect?

Upon reading the title I genuinely thought it was going to be something regarding the Temple of the Dog album. Ya know, backwards track lucifer kinda thing.

Strat, that quoted remark of mine was from Wade Frazier's "A Healed Planet" thread. It got quoted here because all of nine's comments on Wade's thread were moved to this thread because Wade's thread is more of an essay thread.

nine came in on that thread and Bill and the mods thought it best to move his (nine) comments to another thread, i.e. this one.

I know it's confusing.

[Hazelfern]

Thank god it's gone.