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Eric J (Viking)

23rd December 2018, 17:12

Just wondered if anyone here has info on the envelopes handed out at senior Bush funeral. Yes Bill I know it's on the Rumor Mill site but seems to be doing the rounds.

Something quite HUGE is about to go down: Mart....

Hey you folks ...this post by SOTN really nails it.

Something quite HUGE is about to go down: Martial Law, Military Tribunals or Both?

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=111147

“THE ENVELOPE AFFAIR”:
Bush Funeral Service Foreshadows
a Major Series of Radical Events

in Washington, D.C.
Here's just one snippet:

“By any standard what just went down during the Bush funeral
is so HUGE it’s incomprehensible. First, the National Cathedral
was in total lockdown with so many VIPs in attendance of the
biggest funeral since Ronald Reagan’s. That means that no one
got in or out unless given the green light by the Secret Service.
How, then, was the entire venue cased out so well in advance that
videographers were in the perfect position to capture the
extraordinary events that took place. This alone tells you that a massive set-up was, and still is, in the works. Not sure it gets any more serious than this. What is soon to follow “the envelope affair” will surely be the most incendiary series of events of the Third Millennium.”

— Intelligence Analyst and Former U.S. Military Officer
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At last count, at least 5 VIP families received the “special note” at the D.C. memorial service for George H.W. Bush.

That would be the Bush family (George W., Laura and Jeb), the Clintons (Hillary and Bill), the Obamas (Michelle and Barack), the Bidens (Joe and Jill) and the Pences (Mike and Karen).

Question # 1: Why did the sender make sure the wives also received the ominous message? Whoever is responsible for this psyop, it’s clear that every part of this drama was fastidiously choreographed for maximum effect.

Question #2: Why, specifically, did those 5 power families receive the secret message? Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden and Pence?

Such a plot to capture the attention of both husband and wife was quite well planned out. Handing the note to the Bush family at the exact time that the casket was passing by them also occurred with highly calculated significance.

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Whatever they saw, or when they heard about the contents of the envelope, each individual was floored in ways that were both obvious and veiled.

The Bush family reacted in horror, especially Jeb Bush. Laura was quite disgusted as well, although W. appeared to know it was coming. (See photomontage below.)

Hillary Clinton was her usual defiant self; so was Michelle Obama. Barack couldn’t hide his fear (although he tried very hard to) as would be expected from the former Coward-in -Chief.

As for the Bidens, they were both visibly startled by the whole affair, reflecting a sincere disbelief that such a thing could even happen … … … during a presidential state funeral, no less!

As for the Pences, the camera never really caught them at the point of revelation so not much can be said about their reaction.

so much more + photos:
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=111147

Viking

5th

23rd December 2018, 17:43

No real evidence presented and a comment by an unknown 'Intelligence Analyst and Former U.S. Military Officer' and this "will surely be the most incendiary series of events of the Third Millennium"?

And "First of all, there’s no other event in U.S. history that even remotely comes close to this stunning series of envelope incidents RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EX-PRESIDENT’S FUNERAL."

Really? No other event comes close?

Some serious exaggeration and guess work going on here, I think...

The Moss Trooper

23rd December 2018, 18:06

But what is abundantly clear, is that something within those envelopes unsettled the recipients, especially Jeb and Laura Bush.

Interesting, no?

Bob

23rd December 2018, 18:20

What type of sealed letter to the ex-President's and their wives would elicit such reactions? hmm

"Kennedy was killed by ____________, and because ______________. It's been known but needed because WW3 would have been started by______________. We had to take out ____________ for the world's stability. As you know, being President of these United States means _____________, that you have to do things that any 'normal' human would be ashamed of, and we have to 'live with it'.

I wish you all well, G H W B.

PS - yes little grey men are real (http://www.presidentialufo.com/old_site/bush_ufo_story.htm).."

or something like that..

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Just wondered if anyone here has info on the envelopes handed out

at senior Bush funeral. [..]

“THE ENVELOPE AFFAIR”:
Bush Funeral Service Foreshadows
a Major Series of Radical Events

(I'll ask my good friend who grew up sharing a friendship with the Bush family, and he told me he had a great relationship with Barbara and somewhat with HW.. He told me he had just spoken with "P" (that would be Prescott (https://www.georgepfortexas.org/about/)), I'll ask him to ask "P" (https://www.hughsnews.com/newsletter-posts/the-full-transcript-of-george-prescott-bushs-eulogy-for-his-grandfather-george-hw-bush)about the letters.. It could be each received a different letter too..)

A couple filling in of the blanks for instances (pick your own fill-in...and see if it fits the emotional reaction of those reading the letters..)

Castro's militant faction who was stalking Kennedy
Kennedy was going to strike Cuba, hard and wipe out Castro, and Russia gave the order
Castro acting as Khrushchev's puppet
Castro to make a statement to Khruschev
sometimes one needs to do things for "the greater good", and the world may not see it as that

greybeard

23rd December 2018, 18:32

An invitation to their own funeral--smiling.
Cant see envelopes being handed out without first being investigated by security.
Chris

pyrangello

23rd December 2018, 18:47

Well were definitely in interesting times aren't we. I remember when the American Public would be overjoyed that our troops are coming back home which I would say many are, But the way the media spins it , you would think the president is committing a cardinal sin by bringing our military home. Now another supreme court justice is going out, Ginsberg,Do we have another Kavanaugh soap opera mini series coming to a station near you. Boy all the players that were involved in that disappeared as fast as they arrived, with the exception of miss ford thru her GO FUND me page that landed her close to or over a million dollars for her testimony. Mattis, Kelly,Gone. And then I just read where someone commented that you cannot arrest anyone in congress while they are in session? Is that true, never heard that one before. But part of the Govn't is shut down and yes many are home. I agree with Horse, the envelopes were not a gift certificate to a coffee shop were they?

I keep remembering at the swearing in of President trump and his speech, He said the phrase LAW AND ORDER about the United States and that we will be this again quite a few times in that speech. That really made an impression on me that it was that important. And he's holding out on the wall, without a secure border we are NOT a country, we have a legal immigration process, many of us Americans ancestors went thru that process.

And then we have the stock market, talk about a cattle prod from every direction for President trump, Seems to me the Federal reserve always raised interest rates when the economy becomes overheated to slow it down. Soooooooo, I would submit to you that we are at full employment right now, the economy cannot grow anymore than it is right now, WHY? Because employers can't find anymore workers that want to work. So why raise the interest rate, that's another agenda going. Its like General Motors saying its in cash trouble when they just bought back 11 billion dollars of their own stock with their own money. Everyday is getting to be an adventure here in the states.

Pray for this country, Pray for this President that wants NO pay for this job to serve the American people, And pray the continued success of the United States and its citizens. More stuff below. I need a flow chart to keep track .

http://halturnerradioshow.com/

All the US Aircraft Carriers and their battle groups, with the exception of two, are back home.

The Stennis is in the Persian Gulf and the Ronald Reagan is in its home port at Yokosuka, Japan.

The other Carriers are all at home:

Vinson
Lincoln
Bush (they should rename this one)
Truman
Roosevelt
Nimitz
Eisenhower
Ford
Washington

Moreover, as we all saw earlier this week, the President is bringing our troops home from Syria and from Afghanistan.

ramus

23rd December 2018, 19:55

@ pyrangello ... I don't think the forum can handle another Supreme court nomination, the civil war would be here, we would lose a lot of members :flower:

Joe from the Carolinas

23rd December 2018, 20:16

Whatever they saw, or when they heard about the contents of the envelope, each individual was floored in ways that were both obvious and veiled.

The Bush family reacted in horror, especially Jeb Bush. Laura was quite disgusted as well, although W. appeared to know it was coming. (See photomontage below.)

Hillary Clinton was her usual defiant self; so was Michelle Obama. Barack couldn’t hide his fear (although he tried very hard to) as would be expected from the former Coward-in -Chief.

As for the Bidens, they were both visibly startled by the whole affair, reflecting a sincere disbelief that such a thing could even happen … … … during a presidential state funeral, no less!

As for the Pences, the camera never really caught them at the point of revelation so not much can be said about their reaction.

so much more + photos:
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=111147

Viking

In looking at the videos on the linked site, each are quite short snippets, with dramatic music and a lovely computer voice (aside from a 19 minute linked video that has someone pausing and talking over it in an analysis).

I was wondering if anyone is able to link all of the raw, unedited, primary sources of video footage just as they were aired during the funeral?

ripple

23rd December 2018, 20:28

This position has been hinted at for several months , based on the strange idea that there is a secret group of people called Q -anon ( those from the Military who put The Donald into power and are tasked to keep him there intact ) and who want to share their innermost plans with anybody who is willing to listen .
A likely load of garbage .
Then there is the matter of at least 40 000 sealed indictments , although depending on who is telling the story it could be 50,000 or 60 000 . Most believable .
And now , since the funeral of the gangster Bush senior , we have this notion of a secret serviceman handing out a variant of the black spot to an assortment of villains who were present .
All I know is that it had better all be true . Otherwise there is going to be a shocking anti - climax and the Trump devotees are going to be red faced and severely embarrassed .
I suppose stranger things have happened , but I am pushed to think of even one .
On the other hand , there is nothing like a good drama to speed up this hollow holiday period and it will surely continue to keep a great number of fifth rate hacks in drinks .

pyrangello

23rd December 2018, 21:47

Ramus, just think of how creative a new supreme court nominee series could be now. Actually since that entire sham we havn't heard squat from ole carpet bagger Sen Feinstein have we? Yeah I can positively say she won't be involved in the next mini series, lol. Actually the top democrats that threw their face into that circus really made an ass out of themselves. And I'm not bashing Democrats, Paul Ryan said in the last 2 years there was I think 87% of the bills introduced were bi-partisan and passed. Its just now we have mega millions Pelosi again -she's back!- Does everyone know she is the wealthiest individual in congress, not that, that matters. I got side barred, opps!

As for the indictments, take some time and listen to some of the radio shows by https://www.hagmannreport.com/, you will get a nice clearer picture of the corruption in DC and how all of this connects the dots so to speak. The Hagmanns are of the opinion that yes this is full steam ahead still . The clock is indeed ticking.

A Voice from the Mountains

23rd December 2018, 22:04

But what is abundantly clear, is that something within those envelopes unsettled the recipients, especially Jeb and Laura Bush.

Interesting, no?

W. was the one who showed it to Laura, whatever it was.

W. showed it to Laura and then Laura showed it to Jeb. Laura and Jeb both showed anger/disgust in their expressions after seeing it, but W. just kept looking ahead with a sort of resignation on his face.

Whatever W. showed Laura, why couldn't it have waited until they left?

Because W. didn't leave with them.

Satori

23rd December 2018, 22:25

I'm inclined to think that, judging by how quickly they reacted, whatever was on those cards was an image of some sort or very few words.

Total speculation by me, but what might draw such a quick negative reaction if it was an image is, for example, a guillotine or hanging noose; if a few words perhaps "You're next."

The message may have been tailored to each recipient and not the same for all of them.

A Voice from the Mountains

24th December 2018, 01:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR4q5mXHppo

Pence's wife got one too.

If Pence goes down during all of this, I called it months ago on here. ;)

TomKat

24th December 2018, 02:18

Looks like an invitation (small letter, unsealed), possibly info regarding a post-funeral gathering.
The only other possibility is that it's news that the galactic federation has landed and is taking over the world :-)

A Voice from the Mountains

24th December 2018, 02:51

Bluegreen

24th December 2018, 03:13

Looks like an invitation (small letter, unsealed), possibly info regarding a post-funeral gathering.

Bill's invitation to the wife-swapping party?

ThePythonicCow

24th December 2018, 05:32

This Youtube video also concludes that something huge is going down, and that W showed Laura the message at the end of the service because W was not going to be going home with Laura.

I agree with Hengist Mountebank that the timing of W's presentation of the message to Laura is of special importance. It was a message that could not wait to be given any longer, which means that W and Laura would not be together, in private, after the service.

pR4q5mXHppo

What Did Laura See? Theory and Prediction from GWH Bush Funeral

Hengist Mountebank Presents, Published on Dec 17, 2018

Everyone is asking what was in the envelopes, and what was on the back of Laura's program. (Or behind it.) I think these are separate questions. This video deals with what Laura saw and showed to Jeb. It does not deal with the envelopes.

This is entirely my conjecture based on what I am seeing at the funeral. Of special importance is the timing.

A Voice from the Mountains

24th December 2018, 05:41

This Youtube video also concludes that something huge is going down, and that W showed Laura the message at the end of the service because W was not going to be going home with Laura.

Looks vaguely familiar. :whistle:

Did you notice that Pence's wife has an envelope too? Pence himself was giving somebody the stink eye.

My suspicion: Mike Pence is to Donald Trump as George H.W. Bush was to Ronald Reagan. In other words, not the best news. Just a suspicion at this point though.

cursichella1

24th December 2018, 08:20

Hmmm, wonder if there's video of W and Laura leaving the funeral together.

Off topic, but interesting--how much more eloquent Trump was in that 9/11 sound bite from 2001 as compared to now.

ripple

24th December 2018, 09:03

Did you notice that Pence's wife has an envelope too? Pence himself was giving somebody the stink eye.

My suspicion: Mike Pence is to Donald Trump as George H.W. Bush was to Ronald Reagan. In other words, not the best news. Just a suspicion at this point though.

The word is that Mister Pence is possibly heading for Guantanamo ,if that is the penalty reserved for those whose body parts infiltrate forbidden territory .Nod. Wink..
However , I take these messages from the Orion belt and Arcturus with a liberal pinch of salt
As for Q ? A bit of a card or loose cannon .Depends how you like your metaphors .

A Voice from the Mountains

24th December 2018, 09:55

Off topic, but interesting--how much more eloquent Trump was in that 9/11 sound bite from 2001 as compared to now.

That's because the average IQ is 100, and everybody outside of that is falling equally both above and below that average. That means if you go around trying to sound like Albert Einstein all the time, you're going to lose a lot of people, a lot of sympathy, and a lot of votes. It isn't worth the praise from a bunch of arrogant intelligentsia to lose reach and votes like that.

I doubt you will find any successful politician today whose speeches are college-level reading material, Republican or Democrat. Usually they are on a high school or middle school level of prose, in order to reach the widest number of people possible. That's just the way it is, and it's been like that for many years.

In fact, the political sophistication we had at the start, with figures like Thomas Jefferson or James Madison, came to a screeching halt when Andrew Jackson was elected in 1828. He was the first populist, and spoke in a very plain, direct language to large crowds of people. That's not a coincidence.

BMJ

24th December 2018, 09:58

Off topic, but interesting--how much more eloquent Trump was in that 9/11 sound bite from 2001 as compared to now.

Also that's deliberate, he keeps it simple and the same so as not to give the game away, nor any advantage to the tptw.

Also I bet there were many more camera's videoing the reaction of the "entire crowd" to see whom else would be tugging at their collar, building up a sweat, fidgeting or acting nervously any reactions that might give them some insight into their reaction to these letters and the agents.

Bob

24th December 2018, 10:41

On going to fact-checking the OP post 1 reporting "website"..

Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy

Notes: State of the Nation 2012 is a propaganda site that focuses on right wing politics.

Although debunked long ago this source continues to report on Pizzagate.

They also report on the New World Order and other political conspiracies.

State of the Nation 2012 does produce legitimate news among the conspiracies and propaganda. (1/13/2017)

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE
A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, overt propaganda, poor or no sourcing to credible information and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis.

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Having taken a look at the source page referenced in the OP post 1, I find that site using techniques as described and useless for any serious unbiased critique or evaluation.

That site is a SPIN site designed to elicit emotional response, or TROLLING people, and as evidenced by reading the reactions, trolling reactions have indeed occurred. (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/state-of-the-union-2012/

-- There are more sites reporting the same for example: http://skepticreview.com/2018/02/12/news-sources-avoid-junk-news-consumption-social-media-us/

mgray

24th December 2018, 13:10

I can add that people are waking recently to the Bush funeral envelope story. The past two days my blog has had tremendous amount of hits on my blog post (https://grayseconomy.com/2018/12/16/may-i-have-the-envelopes-please-at-george-hw-bushs-funeral/) on the topic.

ThePythonicCow

24th December 2018, 14:40

That's because the average IQ is 100, and everybody outside of that is falling equally both above and below that average.
According to this research (http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/iq-world-rank-country-smartest-nations/), the average IQ in the United States is only 98.

Singapore leads the list, with an average IQ of 108, and some nations are down to about 60.

pyrangello

24th December 2018, 14:56

Wow, I just watched that Mountebank video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR4q5mXHppo) above, lots of valid points brought to the surface that leave more questions than answers. But if you are to follow the narrative of the narrator ,sure makes some specific conclusions that do make sense. I do remember the secret service standing behind W during the service. And the plot thickens doesn't it.

TomKat

24th December 2018, 15:00

Looks like an invitation (small letter, unsealed), possibly info regarding a post-funeral gathering.

Yes, I'm sure Jeb and Laura just absolutely hate post-funeral gatherings. That's definitely what they were making exasperated expressions about.

There is no particular reaction to the envelope from anyone viewing it. The only reaction is grief from the casket passing. It's pure delusion. What are you selling?

ThePythonicCow

24th December 2018, 15:41

On going to fact-checking the OP post 1 reporting "website"..

Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy

Notes: State of the Nation 2012 is a propaganda site that focuses on right wing politics.
...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/state-of-the-union-2012/
According to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com, the least biased websites (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center/) include Snopes and Wikipedia ... neither of which are on the list of sites that I recommend.

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There is no particular reaction to the envelope from anyone viewing it. The only reaction is grief from the casket passing. It's pure delusion. What are you selling?
I'm selling what my lying eyes told me.

What are you selling?

Flash

24th December 2018, 16:06

The envelope had a letter in saying: " the f bastard, he did not leave us a f cent, no more drinking on his casket later on" :(

or a better one

"we did not get to catch his soul in time to put it into a new born, we truly lost him, but the f bastard..."

Happy Christmas, happy holidays everyone

enigma3

24th December 2018, 18:53

ripple

24th December 2018, 19:12

The envelope to Pence intrigues me the most. He is the seeming outlier in the group. Every now and then I come across a reference here and there regarding just how loyal Pence is to this uprising. There is speculation that Trump will choose a different VP for the 2020 run.

He might have to look elsewhere if VPP is taking a long holiday for serious misdemeanours of a sexual kind -- as they say . But of course that info is from White Dragon Societies and the Pentagon which elsewhere you have told us is a source that does not reach you .

TomKat

24th December 2018, 20:05

There is no particular reaction to the envelope from anyone viewing it. The only reaction is grief from the casket passing. It's pure delusion. What are you selling?
I'm selling what my lying eyes told me.

What are you selling?

Same, your lying eyes :-)

East Sun

24th December 2018, 20:38

I think there has been more to Trump than meets the eye of the beholders.. A dark horse if ever there was one.

Would not surprise me if the msgs were from President Trump as warnings to them who need to take special
notice. That would be great>>>>>>>>>>

This is of course speculation but my best guess............

Frenchy

24th December 2018, 21:16

Edit : -
Whatever they saw, or when they heard about the contents of the envelope, each individual was floored in ways that were both obvious and veiled...

Hillary Clinton was her usual defiant self;...

As for the Pences, the camera never really caught them at the point of revelation so not much can be said about their reaction.

I've seen a suggestion that ' Hillary ', had no reaction, 'cos it was her ' Stand-in' double...

I thought Mike Pence didn't have one ? and, he was certainly very stoic, { Almost as if he knew his wife would receive one, and what the content was ?

btw., Q had said a long time ago ' Follow the Wives ', ...

ripple

25th December 2018, 00:07

Follow the Wives[/U] ', ...

Rhyming slang .
QAnon is British--- Tony Bliar perhaps -- and you need to read that as 'follow the knives".
My fellow spy insists it is a Shakespearian reference to the ' Wives of Windsor" and hints at the Deep State role played by our Monarchy .
Corsi meanwhile is choking on his pudding with laughter . Alex Jones is just choking like he always does .

A Voice from the Mountains

25th December 2018, 00:24

There is no particular reaction to the envelope from anyone viewing it. The only reaction is grief from the casket passing. It's pure delusion. What are you selling?

You either aren't watching the same video I am, can't read body language, or are projecting your own delusions onto me out of a bad case of cognitive dissonance. I don't have to take your word for something I can see very plainly with my own two eyes, sorry.

Seven short seconds here to confirm you aren't paying attention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYXwfut6V8

If Laura didn't just show Jeb something unnerving then the Easter Bunny is real.

On going to fact-checking the OP post 1 reporting "website"..

Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy

According to your same amateur site, the BBC is "left-center."

Who fact checks the fact checkers? Will you post Soros-funded Snopes as a credible "fact checker" next? :P

I see your source claims Soros-funded Snopes is credible. Wow, who would have guessed that! So shocked.

Bob

25th December 2018, 02:05

Ad hominem eh?

more are reporting that state fills the criteria http://skepticreview.com/2018/02/12/news-sources-avoid-junk-news-consumption-social-media-us/

These sources deliberately publish misleading, deceptive or incorrect information purporting to be real news about politics, economics or culture. This content includes various forms of propaganda and ideologically extreme, hyper-partisan, or conspiratorial news and information.

For a source to be labelled as junk news at least three of the following five characteristics must apply:

Professionalism: These outlets do not employ the standards and best practices of professional journalism. They refrain from providing clear information about real authors, editors, publishers and owners. They lack transparency, accountability, and do not publish corrections on debunked information.

Style: These outlets use emotionally driven language with emotive expressions, hyperbole, ad hominem attacks, misleading headlines, excessive capitalization, unsafe generalizations and fallacies, moving images, graphic pictures and mobilizing memes.

Credibility: These outlets rely on false information and conspiracy theories, which they often employ strategically. They report without consulting multiple sources and do not employ fact-checking methods. Their sources are often untrustworthy and their standards of news production lack credibility.

Bias: Reporting in these outlets is highly biased and ideologically skewed, which is otherwise described as hyper-partisan reporting. These outlets frequently present opinion and commentary essays as news.

Counterfeit: These outlets mimic professional news media. They counterfeit fonts, branding and stylistic content strategies. Commentary and junk content is stylistically disguised as news, with references to news agencies, and credible sources, and headlines written in a news tone, with bylines, date, time and location stamps.

stateofthenation2012.com

useless propaganda, spin and bias, not worth one's time.

A Voice from the Mountains

25th December 2018, 02:12

Bob

25th December 2018, 02:24

more are reporting that state fills the criteria http://skepticreview.com/2018/02/12/news-sources-avoid-junk-news-consumption-social-media-us/

Another blog that anyone could put up in a few minutes.

I notice a lot of these are popping up and giving their personal takes on which sites are and aren't credible. Whether or not one takes them seriously is obviously a matter of confirmation bias, since none of these sites offer any reason to take them seriously in the first place.

Hilarious ..

Looking at their data log

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A few minutes (7 to be exact) from when I posted my additional find, for you to review that whole website and make a critical evaluation (?)... looks ad hominem to me, eh? Brian S Bray (http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1744267&postcount=1), how about we look at what was done to Todd and Nora with NLP the deliberate attack on members for reporting their own personal experiences? When one reports their own personal experiences is it appropriate to attack them because they don't find the desired "conspiracy" mindset a public beneficial activity? Seems that one could possibly look at the "Farsight hit thread" for another example. Folks which are asking for personal experiential data being fed bias, conspiracy, and general bad mouthing of people? I asked what was in the Sealed Notes given as did the OP. Seems the deviation off topic is about emotional trolling, eh? Opinion is one thing, slanting it for personal attacks is not helping folks learn to think for themselves, question for themselves and critique for themselves. Sensational bias gets no-one anything but emotionally stirred up. IMHO.

Calling http://skepticreview.com/sample-page/ "another blog that anyone could put up in a few minutes" is to me insulting and demeaning of the author's work, virtually an attack of Gretchen Mullen, the owner and author of that website. The author's credentials are adequate:

Gretchen Mullen is an award-winning journalist and former magazine editor. She has a BA from Rice University and an MA from The University of Tulsa as well as graduate work at the University of Texas at Austin. She also attended the Center for Montessori Teacher Education in New York.

A Voice from the Mountains

25th December 2018, 02:29

When one reports their own personal experiences is it appropriate to attack them because they don't find the desired "conspiracy" mindset a public beneficial activity?

Whose personal experience am I attacking?

I just wonder why you think this blog is a credible source.

cursichella1

27th December 2018, 04:50

Cardillac

27th December 2018, 16:04

as @Frenchy stated the woman sitting to B. Clinton's right was most prpbably not the real HELLery Clinton hence her neutral reaction to her envelope;

one can see that she looks much, much too young to be the real one, plus her jaw line is much longer than HC's and the mildly dramatic upward slant of her face is something the real HC doesn't have, at least not to that extent-

take care all-

Larry

Bluegreen

27th December 2018, 16:17

Not to mention old photographs being tweeted by the Clintons as 2018 Christmas greetings

ThePythonicCow

27th December 2018, 18:37

Here's another commentator on this "Envelope Affair". He gets off to a bit of a chatty, wordy start, but I find him to be quite perceptive. He has also viewed the other, earlier, commentators, and builds well on what they noted.

KhDsYqGl1gk
He links to the best of the previous commentators in his Youtube comment - click on the above Youtube link to find these links.

He noticed a flinch in Hillary's lip, when she saw her envelope that I hadn't noticed before, and he noticed a stark lack of interaction between President Trump and his Vice President Pence, when Trump entered, that also I had not noticed before.

If you can spare the 27 minutes to listen, he's easy to listen to, and he's about as spot on and well informed as any commentator I've watched so far, regarding this "Envelope Affair."

ThePythonicCow

27th December 2018, 18:48

The chap who made the video I posted just above, who goes by the Youtube handle "Seething Frog", has quite the sense of humor.

Here's a Christmas Theme follow-up, mostly with some Red Pill nonsense, good for a chuckle, ending with a couple of updates to his above video on the "Envelope Affair".

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Valerie Villars

27th December 2018, 19:01

Maybe the notes said "Your assets are seized."

ThePythonicCow

27th December 2018, 20:01

Maybe the notes said "Your assets are seized."

I'm guessing that it was the final image in the Youtube video that I posted above in Post #46 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105446-Something-quite-huge-going-down--What-did-the-envelopes-at-Bush-s-funeral-signify--&p=1266192&viewfull=1#post1266192):

http://thepythoniccow.us/RIP_GHWB.jpg

Ba-ba-Ra

27th December 2018, 22:40

Not to mention old photographs being tweeted by the Clintons as 2018 Christmas greetings

. . and the one of the Obama's, which did NOT include 'their children'.

Perhaps the girls went back to the "real" home for XMAS.

TomKat

28th December 2018, 21:03

There is no particular reaction to the envelope from anyone viewing it. The only reaction is grief from the casket passing. It's pure delusion. What are you selling?

You either aren't watching the same video I am, can't read body language, or are projecting your own delusions onto me out of a bad case of cognitive dissonance. I don't have to take your word for something I can see very plainly with my own two eyes, sorry.

Seven short seconds here to confirm you aren't paying attention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYXwfut6V8

If Laura didn't just show Jeb something unnerving then the Easter Bunny is real.

I see Laura looking at a thick pamphlet, not a letter. I see George Jr trying not to cry as he often did during his presidency.
I see people trying to bend reality to their own preconceptions and sell it as real to others.

A Voice from the Mountains

28th December 2018, 22:15

I see Laura looking at a thick pamphlet, not a letter. I see George Jr trying not to cry as he often did during his presidency.
I see people trying to bend reality to their own preconceptions and sell it as real to others.

You noticed everything except Jeb looking at the paper, doing a quick double-take, then suddenly leaning back and taking in a big exasperated breath, huh?

Speaking of bending reality to fit pre-conceived perceptions, what made you miss that most dramatic and obvious of all the body language in the clip? Perhaps you are projecting? If you don't think so, how can you be so sure?

Watch it again and try to pay attention to Jeb this time. I'm not sure if you've ever looked into reading body language, but it's clear as day to enough people that we haven't had to explain it to each other in such excruciating detail. It's very clear to see with your own eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYXwfut6V8

East Sun

29th December 2018, 00:39

What is your agenda , may I ask

A Voice from the Mountains

29th December 2018, 02:11

What is your agenda , may I ask

If you're asking me, my agenda is defending this:

https://timeonhands.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/us-constitution.jpg

And its legal tradition based on this:

https://adam1cor.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/80093375.jpg

What's yours?

East Sun

29th December 2018, 02:47

Sorry, I was asking TomKat...........

Should have made it clear.

TomKat

29th December 2018, 23:54

A Voice from the Mountains

30th December 2018, 00:01

Jeb takes a quick glance at whatever Laura is holding then puts his attention back on the casket and takes a deep breath, which is a common symptom of grief.

He was looking at the casket with his hand over his heart before looking at the paper, and had a completely different expression on his face. So explain to me why he was looking at the casket before and after looking at the paper, yet suddenly changed expressions completely after looking at the paper?

The only one who might be angry is Laura, but she is not holding an envelope.

I said he looked at the paper, not an envelope. Bush Jr. had been writing something on a piece of paper earlier and that's probably what Laura showed Jeb.

TomKat

30th December 2018, 00:05

What is your agenda , may I ask

Well you and others have an agenda to sell this common, unremarkable event as some kind of evidence that something big is happening. I see no such thing, and my agenda is to say that. I saw some people crossing the street and talking, and I'm pretty sure that they were just crossing the street and talking, not plotting the end of the world, but hey, that's just me...

TomKat

30th December 2018, 00:09

A Voice from the Mountains

30th December 2018, 00:14

Valerie Villars

30th December 2018, 00:31

I was actually enjoying this thread before all the pointless arguing.

A Voice from the Mountains

30th December 2018, 00:43

It's a good example of how two groups of people can look at exactly the same thing and come to completely different conclusions, so I'm not sure it's completely pointless.

If we can't hash out why we interpret this visible reaction in two completely different ways, then we're just skirting around the social phenomenon that has resulted in so much division since 2016 in the first place. Either one side or the other of this issue, maybe both, are either refusing or incapable of looking at things from the other perspective. "Both sides" can't be right in this case, and when I try to put myself in a frame of mind to see Jeb as simply reacting to the casket, it's ridiculous. He's obviously looking at the casket differently before he reads the paper, so it isn't the casket that he's reacting to.

People also shouldn't be afraid to hash out differences of ideas. I remember when Greek philosophy and intellectual debates were actually seen as healthy. Does anybody else remember that? I think the way some people try to avoid confrontation, even intellectual debate, at all costs, is unhealthy and is directly contributing to ongoing social tension. If we don't talk, how does it go away?

Orph

30th December 2018, 00:53

I remember when Greek philosophy and intellectual debates were actually seen as healthy. Does anybody else remember that? Nooooooooo, ........ That was just a wee bit before my time.

ThePythonicCow

30th December 2018, 05:44

TomKat

30th December 2018, 14:14

So what...

So your explanation for why he changed expressions after looking at the paper is "so what"? That's a pretty weak explanation my friend.

You can believe what you want, I don't particularly care, but if you can't support your own beliefs then you at least should refrain from mocking others who actually can support what they are concluding about this with what is clearly visible in the video itself.

My "so what" was in reference to your lack of any non-fanciful explanation. And in reference to the fact that I'm not going to argue about popular delusions and the madness of crowds anymore.

TomKat

30th December 2018, 14:23

I was actually enjoying this thread before all the pointless arguing.

Me too :).

I'd suggest that TomKat has made his point, several times now, that he doesn't see what the rest of us are seeing.

So perhaps TomKat doesn't need to continue repeating that point, and the rest of us don't need to continue responding to his repeating that point.

I like debate, but when debate turns into repeatedly making the same provocative denials (provocative to some of us, myself included, resulting in an earlier reply of mine above) denials, I don't like it so much. That becomes pointless. I agree.

All my responses were reluctant responses, and I'm done. But this thread has been enlightening. It shows that people can make a religion out of anything and believe anything to support that religion. It's a good thing this isn't Salem. Keep admiring the emperor's new clothes you guys.

ThePythonicCow

30th December 2018, 18:24

Ba-ba-Ra

31st December 2018, 02:39

So what do we know?

When W gets out of the car with the SS, he seems to be handed over to the military.

Military walks down aisle with W, literally shoulder to shoulder. Whereas when Potus walks down aisle, military leads him (not next to him) and no SS walking with Potus, whereas the SS men walk down the aisle behind the Bush family.

2 SS men sit directly behind W and Pence. None directly behind POTUS

Hillary, Michele O and Mike Pence's wife = all got envelopes

But Joe Biden appears to receive his directly, not his wife. When he opens his program, it seems to fall out and his wife picks it up off the floor and hands it to him. Why the wife for the others and Joe gets his directly?

W seems to write something down and show it to Laura (who looks upset). Laura shows it to Jeb who doesn't look happy.
Laura asks W something (lip readers have said it was: Is this true? He says "Yep" and does not look happy.

If he knew this would make her react, Why didn't he wait until they left the building to tell her. Some have surmised because he wasn't going home with her, but one video shows they got in the same car. So why choose this particular time - just as his father's coffin was going by - to tell her?

In this video between Greg Hunter and Dave Janta around 49:00 Janta claims that the note W shows Laura was about Pence, who was the Globalist's insurance policy - and it said something like: Pence is out or done, which made them realize they were in trouble. Janta also suggests around 56:00 that W flipped a few months ago and reminds us that the day before the funeral Trump arranged for W and wife to stay at the Blair house which is across from White House.

At the end of the ceremony Bush and Trump turn and look at each other. Neither reacted, however, it did seem to be pre-arranged.

We seem to have a lot of why's, but few answers.

But what all this did was get the attention of many, and there's nothing folks like more than a good mystery. Is this Trumps way of getting citizens more involved in what happens, while at the same time putting the fear into the swamp dwellers.

Added Later: All of the above seem to have gone dark on twitter since just after the funeral.

Olam

31st December 2018, 03:20

Flash

31st December 2018, 06:13

neutronstar

1st January 2019, 00:54

We can see Jeb Bush"s reaction is instant. So it has to be some kind of symbol or picture, he could not read that fast.
Maybe some pic of papa Bush with a child, or some compromising picture sending a clear message.

yes we can read that fast and you could if you took speed reading courses and exercised. Those elites all did. You can glance whole sentences in one shot and understand them. Lots of speed readers do more than 1000 words a minute.

Field McConnell was talking to maddog and he said it was a picture of the military standing at There bolthole at Arlington cemetery saying closed. He also said the cemetery is closed right now to everyone.

That was there plan, to hide in there bolthole while there was a nuclear exchange.

ThePythonicCow

1st January 2019, 05:14

A couple of hours ago, forgetting that this thread was here, I posted a comment about these funeral "envelopes", in this post, over on the main Qanon thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1266939&viewfull=1#post1266939):

===========

... at about the 23:30 mark (https://youtu.be/n-NIDGtrZE4?t=1410), Janda noted something I had not heard before. Janda claims that his inside contacts told him what was on the note that Laura Bush showed Jeb Bush, as the casket was being carried out at the end of the ceremony, that so shocked Laura and Jeb, and that caused Laura's husband "W" to hang his head in shame. First, Janda reminds us that Pence is on excellent terms with the Bush's. For example Janda thinks that Pence was apparently in the Bush suite, at the latest Super Bowl (that would have been Super Bowl LII, held Feb 4, 2018). Janda has now been led to think, by his contacts, that the note that Laura showed Jeb and that shocked them both was a note, apparently from "W", that Pence could no longer be counted on as "an insurance policy" to cover for and protect the Bush interests, inside the Trump White House.

In line with this, at about the 30:30 mark (https://youtu.be/n-NIDGtrZE4?t=1830), Janda goes on to say that he has heard that "W" essentially flipped a few months ago, and had reached out to Trump to be more cooperative and work a deal, that would no longer cover for and protect all the crimes of "W"'s father George H.W. Bush and associates.

Anyhow - here's the video - enjoy such parts as you find worthwhile:
n-NIDGtrZE4
In sum, the key items for me here were the reports by Dave Janda that (1) reconfirmed that there is no love lost between Trump and Pence and (2) what shocked Laura and Jeb Bush was something that told them Pence was no longer able to be of use to them.
===========

There's more in the full post over on the Q thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1266939&viewfull=1#post1266939) -- the above is the relevant part for this thread.

Valerie Villars

1st January 2019, 12:36

But, why show it at the funeral as opposed to telling her that night? Ditto for the other envelopes.

ThePythonicCow

1st January 2019, 14:28

Ba-ba-Ra

1st January 2019, 19:49

But, why show it at the funeral as opposed to telling her that night? Ditto for the other envelopes.

Perhaps the envelope recipients were not in control of the timing?

Perhaps "W" was not in control of where he would be that evening, or of when he had to tell Laura?

(or to the extent that he had some say in such details, perhaps he just wasn't too bright about it?)

I'll stick with my original premise - -All of this was theater choreographed by Trump to wake up more citizens. Everything was caught on camera.

Whatever was in the envelopes could have been delivered privately. But, right on camera, at a highly televised event - what could be more provacative?

As for W, I suspect he was told when to show wife. Maybe he knew why, maybe he didn't and was just following orders. Watch after the casket passes. W and Potus turn to each other and make direct eye contact. Neither reacts in any way, but I suspect W was told to do this to confirm he had advised Laura.

ThePythonicCow

1st January 2019, 21:25

I'll stick with my original premise - -All of this was theater choreographed by Trump to wake up more citizens. Everything was caught on camera.
Yup :).

ThePythonicCow

2nd January 2019, 04:02

Here's the most perceptive analysis I've seen yet of the details of what happened when W, Laura and Jeb Bush were reacting in some shocked manner, as the casket was being carried out, and also with some comments on a few earlier moments during that funeral service for GHWBush.
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He makes a good case that W, not a Secret Service agent, initiated the handoff as the casket was being carried out.

He also documents that W was still present with the Bush family, later in the day, at another step of the day's events.

There is a fundamental difference between the reaction of George"W" Bush, of his wife Laura and brother Jeb, and of the others who received envelopes.

When, for example, the Biden's looked at their envelope, them seemed quite surprised, as in "Oh my gracious -- this can't be true!", but they did not seem personally and immediately threatened. I think they were learning news of some dramatic tragedy effecting some one else or some others (though not without possible, indirect, implications for themselves as well.)

When Laura and Jeb saw whatever Laura was holding up, behind her program, they seemed to be learning of something shocking that directly effected their family. From Jeb's glance toward Trump, I'd guess the shock came from Trump. From Laura's shock and dismay, asking for confirmation from her husband "W", I'd guess that Laura was just learning that the tragedy targeted "W". From "W"'s down cast guilty look and "yup" (in reply to Laura) I'd guess that the tragedy targeted him and he already knew of it.

Other analysis, in the above video, confirms that "W" was in a significantly more distraught and weakened state than his brothers or wife, from the moment they entered the cathedral for the funeral service. "W" was a beaten man. Before Trump entered, the other former Presidents and Vice Presidents were laughing and talking, enjoying their time together. When Trump entered, he was the Boss - stern, strong, no comradery. Everyone else went silent, as if the stern school principle had just walked in on a bunch of students playing around.

So I'm figuring that this envelope affair is the revelation (in a public, but still not publicly understood way) that George "W" Bush was taken into military custody and court-martialed, and that he was ordered to tell Laura of this, at the end of that funeral ceremony for his father, as part of whatever "deal" he worked out.

"W" would not have wanted to tell Laura sooner, both as part of his "deal", and so as to minimize the chance of the deep state suiciding him, to prevent his flipping on them and telling what he knew. Odds are good that he had already flipped, but had kept it quiet from his family, to protect himself. Turning on the deep state, especially if you know as much as "W" knew, is not good for one's health or longevity. But with "W" going into military custody after the funeral, his prosecution and possible flipping could no longer be kept secret, so Trump and his team chose this quite public moment to force this key event to be visible, but in a way that is not yet publicly understood.

The other deep state former Presidents and Vice Presidents now know however, and there is doubtless "PANIC IN DC", as Q would say, and did said, in dozens and dozens of drops, during the months of August and September 2018. Something broke back then, against the "deep state" team.

My guess: several deep staters, especially in the Dept of Justice and FBI, including (give or take) John McCain, George H.W. Bush, George "W" Bush, Bruce Ohr, James Baker, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Loretta Lynch, Rod Rosenstein, Bob Mueller, and Lisa Page, were flipped back then (Aug-Sept 2018), or made some effort to cut a deal, before the FISA (and other documents) declassification went public. Note that the Bush's are the only prior Presidents or Vice Presidents on my list of suspected flippers. I'm guessing that George H.W. Bush cut a deal with Trump, which cut some slack for the Bush family, but which also put great pressure on his son "W".

Now, as of these events at the funeral service of George H.W. Bush, the other former Presidents and Vice Presidents, at least the Obamas, Clintons, Bidens (Obama's V.P.), know that heat is on them. I'm guessing that Jimmy Carter is clean, and that Richard B. "Dick" Cheney ("W"'s V.P.) already knew and is too cold blooded to reveal anything in public. I can't tell and don't have a guess regarding Al Gore (Bill Clinton's V.P.) or the current Vice President Pence, except to guess that Pence will not be Trump's running mate for his second term of office. Pence was and is much closer to the Bush's than to the Trump's.

In August and September of 2018, several key figures at the Dept of Justice tried to cut a deal and/or flipped to turn state's evidence. Then George H.W. Bush cut a deal, while on his deathbed, and with these events at his funeral service, the other former Presidents and Vice Presidents learned that George "W" Bush, the son, was being taken into military custody, thus (as of Dec 2018) putting the heat on the other former Presidents and Vice Presidents.

Thus there has been no twitter activity (except re-posting of three old Christmas photos, perhaps by others now in control of those twitter accounts) by any of these deep stater people for eleven days now and counting, which is quite unlike them, especially the former Presidents and especially over a Christmas holiday week.

So ... I conclude that Trump lowered the boom, "W" flipped and is in custody of the military, and the other deep state former Presidents and Vice Presidents know it, and were video taped on world-wide camera learning of it.

Many more Americans will come to learn of the significance of these brief moments, in the coming weeks and months.

Bluegreen

2nd January 2019, 06:10

Are there any MSM outlets that have covered this?

ThePythonicCow

2nd January 2019, 17:18

DeDukshyn

3rd January 2019, 03:26

Are there any MSM outlets that have covered this?

I doubt it; but I pay about as much attention to the main stream media outlets in my country (the U.S.), as I do to those in Beijing, Moscow, Berlin or Rio de Janeiro :)

I just did a pretty thorough (albeit quick) search, and google news searches (going many pages deep until irrelevancy) gives me absolutely nothing on any msm news, except a (arguably MSM) Huffington Post (CA) article that was about "Top 5 greatest conspiracy theories of 2018".

That might be a bit telling in itself ...

graciousb

4th January 2019, 03:31

I don't follow the news but when this came up on my YT feed I was riveted. The intensity and mystery reminded me of the strange embrace Huma Abedin gave Lindsey Graham, and seemed to hand him something and walk away, while people shot strange looks at her, including Kissinger. Could the ''insurance folder'' on her laptop be in play? Would Trump have had the clout himself to arrange this at GHWB service, or to have the cameras trained so perfectly to catch the expressions? That seems hard to believe as isolated as he seems to be. Makes me really wonder if there is something to all the Q stuff and what is actually going on. I can barely allow myself to hope there is some kind of comeuppance brewing for these psychopaths.

conk

23rd January 2019, 13:46

Deleted my take on the argument above. It added nothing but fuel. Sorry.

Eric J (Viking)

5th March 2019, 20:15

EXIBIT 1 Updates

Bush Funeral “Envelope Affair” Solved: The Mexican Standoff Inside the Beltway (Important Updates on 2/28)
The Millennium Report

February 24, 2019

Bush Funeral “Envelope Affair” Solved: The Mexican Standoff Inside the Beltway (Important Updates on 2/28)

Trump Enters Uneasy Truce with Deep State

Team Trump Meets Bush Dynasty Half Way to End Epic Feud
State of the Nation

First, these are the indisputable facts:
The State Funeral for George H.W. Bush was held on Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at the Washington National Cathedral. (See the announcement below from their website.)

During the funeral, an extraordinary series of events took place that continue to puzzle the Alt Media to this very day. These events are described at the following link: “THE ENVELOPE AFFAIR”: Bush Funeral Service Foreshadows a Major Series of Radical Events in Washington, D.C. (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=111147)

Then, just two days later, on Friday, December 7, 2018, President Trump nominated Bush lawyer and close confidante — William Barr — for Attorney General. (See screenshot from Wikipedia below.) Barr previously served as Attorney General under President George H.W. Bush.

KEY POINT: There’s no question that William Barr was an elite fixer for Poppy Bush. He did things that only an AG would do knowing that they could act with total impunity, which he did. Because Barr was always a Bush inside man, he is privy to the family secrets as only a ‘family attorney’ would be, so he is completely trusted by them. Which is why he is now Trump’s Attorney General. See: William Barr’s Professional History During Clinton and Bush I Years (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=110556)

William Barr was confirmed as Attorney General on February 14, 2018. This pivotal AG appointment is the single most important personnel change for the Trump administration in 2019. The true significance of this move will inevitably expose itself in the months to come. In the meantime, the following narrative is presented for those who really want to know what time it is RIGHT NOW.

What really happened?
Everything points to a truce proposition floated at the funeral by President Trump—a truce that was quickly accepted by both sides of the epic feud.

The Bush political dynasty is powerful and pervasive. Under W. Bush the family closely aligned with the Neocon cabal and other influential Zionists.

President Trump is also joined at the hip with both Christian and Israeli Zionists, and especially with the Chabad organization through his Orthodox Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner.

It appears that Trump knew that he would not have a moment’s peace for his remaining two years and therefore reached out to the Bushes (and other leading crime syndicates) to agree to a peace treaty of sorts.

All the biggest names in both the Bush and Clinton Crime families were present during the Bush funeral. In this way, Trump was able to disseminate the word to all of them that he would no longer pursue his campaign promise to drain the swamp. If Trump was to drain the D.C. swamp, all of them would be flushed down the tubes—FAST!

Clearly, whatever messages were delivered to each of the representatives of the Bush, Clinton and Obama camps at the funeral proved that Trump was dead serious. The biggest message, of course, was that Trump would release highly sensitive information and/or prosecute high crimes that would sink all of their ships in a day and a night. Their various reactions during the “Envelope Affair” clearly reflected a dire warning from Trump. (See: What in the world really happened at the Bush funeral? (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=110301))

There’s much more intrigue and privileged info associated with this high drama and its aftermath which are explained in captivating detail at the following two links. It is with great certainty that the “Envelope Affair” was staged and filmed by Team Trump to have maximum effect. It may even be the case that both sides were in on it from the beginning as a way of informing all the key players (and the public) that a truce was offered which was decisively accepted.

/2019 Changes in the Trump Presidency: THE HIDDEN BACK STORY (Part I) (http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/02/2019-changes-in-the-trump-presidency-the-hidden-back-story-part-i)

2019 Changes in the Trump Presidency: THE HIDDEN BACK STORY (Part II) (http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/02/2019-changes-in-the-trump-presidency-the-hidden-back-story-part-i-2/)

KEY POINTS: After nearly 2 years on the job, Trump came to realize that you can’t fight city hall. Especially when most of your enemies are invisible. No matter who he appoints, even if they are truly white hats, he saw how easily any administration appointee or government official can be turned against him. His sincere promise to make peace with Russia was not only thwarted at every turn, it has been used against him to portray him as a traitorous POTUS. He saw that the Military-Industrial Complex alone — a big Trump supporter — would not permit a rapprochement with Russia as it’s not good for business. The MIC always needs a boogeyman for the specter of war to loom large in the collective American mind; after all, The USA is the Military Arm of the New World Order. (http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=1167)

The major takeaways of this rapidly evolving state of affairs inside the swamp are as follows:

• Q and QAnon are LARPs* who have posted massive amounts of hope porn regarding thousands of fictitious sealed indictments. They don’t exist, and they never did. “The PLAN” was never real and only a figment of someone’s fertile imagination who, nonetheless, still has A VERY SERIOUS AGENDA (to deceitfully corral the Patriot Movement into the warmongering Neocon Zionist camp). The Qs are really working for one of the clandestine crime syndicates that currently backs Trump.

*LARP = Live Action Role-Playing and “is a type of interactive role-playing game in which the participants portray characters through physical action, often in costume and with props”.

• With AG William Barr in place there will be no prosecutions of the Clintons, the Bushes, the Obamas or any other crime family including the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Even career criminal George Soros will skate. The nomination of Barr just 2 days after the funeral reflects the likelihood that the truce offer was immediately accepted by both sides and that Barr would enforce the non-prosecution agreement as Attorney General.

• The swamp inside the Beltway will NOT be drained — not even a little — because any prosecutions would make very vulnerable the various crime families. Convictions could even lead to the exposure of the Khazarian Mafia (http://themillenniumreport.com/?s=khazarian+mafia) and Black Nobility (http://themillenniumreport.com/?s=black+nobility") that really run the whole show as they have since the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and before. The Illuminati crime families (http://themillenniumreport.com/?s=illuminati) simply posses too much wealth to ever be taken down; LOTs of money buys LOTs of power and influence.

• The foreign policy of the Trump administration has been completely taken over by warmongering Neocon Zionists. They have been given free rein to execute regime changes in Venezuela, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Bolivia and even Cuba. Look at what they have already done to Yemen—the greatest humanitarian crisis on the planet today. They will also target Iran in the very near future as well as continue to occupy Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. Syria is also still in their crosshairs for another day…after other “shock and awe” military conquests have been successful. However, it’s really Russia that the Neocon warmongers want to conquer, once and for all, even if it means a nuclear WW3.[1] Just who are those Neocon Zionists?

Mike Pence — Vice President

John Bolton — National Security Advisor (United States)

Mike Pompeo — Secretary of State

Gina Haspel — Director of the Central Intelligence Agency

Dan Coats — Director of National Intelligence

Elliot Abrams — United States Special Representative for Venezuela

Jared Kushner — Senior Advisor to the President

Elan Carr — Special Envoy To Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism

• Trump’s foreign policy is no longer under his control. Neither are his major domestic policy decisions. He will appear to press on with the border wall, replacing Obamacare, protecting the Second Amendment, and outlawing abortion as a contraceptive, but these initiatives will only be given lip service henceforth. None of them will be accomplished during the remainder of his term in office. See: Trump was even unable to stop infanticide from being legalized (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=116047)

• It’s also quite likely that Donald Trump will NOT run again for office as part of the deal. At this point, most of the crime syndicates that really run the world do not want him as POTUS, except to usher the USA through a highly controlled bankruptcy (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=37500). This will be his primary task should the power elite crash the stock market, yet again, and then pull the plug on the global economy. That would be THEIR FINAL SOLUTION (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=98787) if all else fails.

Attorney General William Barr

A number of significant things have occurred since Barr was first nominated, as well as after he began his new job at the DOJ. First, it was announced that Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein would be leaving in March.

Special Counsel Mueller has also indicated that his fake investigation was quickly coming to an end. Much more importantly, it has been reported in multiple MSM news outlets that the final report might not even be made public. And, that whatever information was made available to the American people would likely be sanitized and redacted ‘wherever appropriate’.

The upshot of all of this posturing is, of course, that Barr will not release any info/data that would be a contravention of the secret deal between the Trumps and the Bushes. As the ultimate gatekeeper at DOJ, Barr will be sure to dampen any intentions that Mueller originally had to implicate Trump a the Russiagate hoax. Nothing gets out into the public domain via the Attorney General that will put the Mexican standoff inside the Beltway in jeopardy.

An extremely concerning factoid about Barr is his history for proposing the curtailment of the Second Amendment. This is in keeping with his reputation for being a high-powered legal counsel for the power elite. No matter who they are within the 1%, they do not want the American people to possess firearms. Gun Rights Groups: We Object to William Barr Being Confirmed as AG

There’s no question that Barr was a key “fixer” for President George H.W. Bush. (See: Attorney General William Barr Was “The Fixer” for President George H.W. Bush) And that his willingness to provide legal cover as AG for so much Bush corruption was a function of his being a longtime covert operative of the rogue C.I.A. Bush senior is notorious for using the rogue C.I.A. to carry out many a black operation worldwide such as the Iran-Contra affair—a covered up scandal that nearly brought down the Reagan administration.

CIA Covert Operative William Barr Nominated by Trump for Attorney General. His Role in the Iran Contra Affair
In light of this irrefutable history, everything points to Barr maintaining the status quo inside the swamp. Because the Bush Crime Syndicate and Clinton Crime Family are joined at the hip, he will do nothing to upset that critical relationship, especially because they are both essential to the funding and running of the rogue C.I.A. The Clinton Foundation: A Typical ‘CIA-Directed NGO’ That Is Completely Above The Law

Truly, Williams Barr’s hands are now tied as no other AG in U.S. history. Just like Jeff Sessions was “A Bush plant, SES pawn and agent of Deep State“, so, too, will Barr prove to be an agent of Deep State perfectly positioned to keep the swamp from being drained. Just as Sessions expanded the outrageous Civil Asset Forfeiture laws, Barr will likely push for new federal statutes that protect the few wealthy elites at the expense of We the People.

KEY POINT: Some have argued that the Attorney General is the most powerful position in American government. It’s true that the AG can bring down any other US government official including the POTUS, VPOTUS, and any member of the SCOTUS. Likewise, the U.S. Attorney General can take down any head of state, corporate CEO/President, or NGO Director. An AG can also collapse a country or bankrupt a Fortune 1000 company if they can conjure up the right criminal case. Therefore, it’s the single most critical appointment that the President can make. After two disastrous years of the willfully incompetent Jeff Sessions, Trump was brutally aware of the necessity of making the right choice to replace him. And so he did … … … for survival’s sake.

Conclusion

The POTUS has been completely taken over by forces that are way too powerful for any one individual to take on.

The current composition of his cabinet clearly indicates that his major campaign promises will not be fulfilled. The number of Neocon warmongers alone is enough to start World War III. His war cabinet was quite purposefully constituted to advance the fascist side of the New World Order agenda. While the communist side is being humbled like never before, their control of the major pillars of Deep State have made them an implacable foe for Trump.

Therefore, the theater of war that involves the Mainstream Media (MSM), the U.S. Intelligence Community, Big Tech and Big Social Media will not demilitarize. Trump has exposed the MSM “fake news” like no other leader in world history; he has also taken his wrecking ball to the other primary pillars of Deep State. The Powers That Be (TPTB) will not forget the irreparable damage that he inflicted; nor will those individual power players forgive Trump’s unparalleled truth-telling about their sedition and sellouts, sins and shortcomings.

This “uneasy truce” is also why the President is zealously promoting, not only the extremely dangerous 5G roll-out, but also a future 6G technology paradigm. Israel has kept their 3G networks frozen in place because Tel Aviv acknowledges the inherent health dangers and risks of 4G; and yet they were the primary developers of 5G technology. Why, then, is Trump pushing a completely untested 5G network? See 5G ROLL-OUT CATASTROPHE: An Open Letter to President Donald J. Trump

KEY POINT: Whereas the primary mission of Obama was to take our guns before starting a full-blown race war (he failed miserably), it really does appear that the Shadow Government is setting up Trump to usher through the 5G roll-out. 5G is literally the capstone of the New World Order agenda and, by far, the most dangerous project on Earth today. Here’s why the U.S. citizenry must unify to terminate this cyber-prison-in-the-making. 5G ROLL-OUT: An Ongoing National Emergency that Requires an Immediate Shutdown by the American People

No one in the country can deny that the chemical geoengineering of American skies has been worse than ever since Trump took office. In point of fact, 2017 saw a major uptick which was followed by unparalleled chemtrail operations nationwide in 2018. However, 2019 has seen a veritable explosion of chemtrail spraying as well as the deployment of chembombs in select cities. (See: THEY’RE PUTTING THE CHEMTRAILS ON SUPER STEROIDS) As Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces, if Trump cannot even prevent the Air Force from polluting the atmosphere with highly toxic aluminum oxide, barium salts and other chemical contaminants — 24/7 — then how much control does the POTUS really have?!

KEY POINT: Just because there is a truce in effect does not mean that Deep State won’t keep up the constant pressure on Trump. A promise not to impeach, or invoke Amendment 25, or assassinate him, is one thing; the determination to prevent his re-election is quite another. Therefore, the MSM madness will continue forthwith as the incessant “fake news” insanity also supports the ever-present “divide and conquer” strategy employed by the Black Nobility over the centuries. The outworking of this in-your-face vendetta by the CIA’s Mockingbird Media against Trump for exposing fake news is, after all, an integral part of their stealthy scheme to destroy the American Republic. TPTB aim to make a flaming example of him so that no other leader even thinks about leaving the reservation of political correctness.

There is no defeating Deep State except by the sheer force of people power and posing the very real threat of violence against the 1%. The Shadow Government has had the planet in total lockdown for centuries so how can one man possibly bring down such a deep and wide power structure, especially when most of it operates completely under the radar.

This is exactly where we are, PEOPLE!

CAVEAT

Many folks within the Truth Movement will dismiss this analysis, just as ever-hopeful Trumpians will attempt to debunk it at their peril. It was President Trump, himself, who fastidiously choreographed this perfectly executed series of [TELLING] events. Hence, it is the POTUS who is effectively delivering this message to you—PATRIOT. He is telling US that he is now being held captive with very few opportunities to escape from the Deep State prison. Consequently, he needs our help — the entire Patriot Movement — like never before. Can he even count on the U.S. military flag officers anymore after all the generals who have been fired or relieved of their commands since Inauguration Day? Please read: What’s really going on with Trump?

State of the Nation

February 23, 2019

Author’s Note

No matter what the reader thinks about the accuracy of this analysis, there was no good reason for the appointment of such a Deep State swamp creature as William Barr (except to keep Trump in office and/or alive). Not only are there many superior AG candidates available, selecting a top-gun lawyer from the enemy camp only spells trouble, unless the President had absolutely no choice in the matter. The final point here is that Barr at AG only means that the swamp WILL NOT BE DRAINED. After all, how can such a compromised, corrupt and criminally disposed Bush lawyer possess the unimpeachable integrity and necessary gravitas to prosecute other swamp creatures? This ill-fated appointment also presents the very real possibility that the DOJ (as well as the FBI under Director Christopher Wray) will be further weaponized against the American people.

Bottom Line: While only Trump’s people have been indicted, arrested, prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated, not a single Democrat or other swamp creature has even been apprehended for their egregious crimes against the American people. Meanwhile, the Trump While House sees every sort of swamp monster added to their numbers by the month. What’s really going on here?!?!

Special Note: In light of these extraordinary developments, the Patriot Movement is highly encouraged to comprehend the seriousness of this Inescapable Trump Reality Check. From this point forward, events will move in a manner that defy normal analysis. The deeper we get into the 2020 election cycle, the crazier things will get; and the more radical the response will be required from the Right. Particularly in view of the extreme actions by the Left (See: OPERATION CRAFTY BEAVER: Deep State attempts to start a race war before stealing the 2020 POTUS election) will conservatives be compelled to think completely outside the political box. At the very minimum, the following possibility MUST BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED—post-haste: What happens if President Trump does not run in 2020?

http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/02/bush-funeral-envelope-affair-solved-the-mexican-standoff-inside-the-beltway/

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Bluegreen

5th March 2019, 23:01

RunningDeer

6th March 2019, 02:52

That's discouraging
But I'm not discouraged

Not saying its not plausible, but I see that every single link provided cites 'stateofthenation2012.com' or 'themilleniumreport.com' themselves. I see further that going to the bottom of the page we are told -quote- originally published by http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=117414

Going to stateofthenation2012.com I see there is not a single name on the whole website
Going back to themilleniumreport.com - same thing
Oh wait, yes there is - James Dinsdale - http://molovo.co.uk

I always liked Rocky Shorz and I miss him

Bluegreen, I may have misunderstood your post. Your link didn’t work so I tried it without the .uk at the end. (http:// molovo. co. uk) A James Dinsdale came up but my sense is Rocky didn’t have the skills to be a web designer or a graphic designer, or at least none of his posts demonstrated those skills. (info from his Facebook below)

My guess it’s another James Dinsdale from the link you provided. On Rocky_Shorz's message board (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?25-Rocky_Shorz) he states he's from the US, not the UK. (http:// molovo. co. uk)

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pluton

8th March 2019, 01:24

Just wondered if anyone here has info on the envelopes handed out at senior Bush funeral.

“By any standard what just went down during the Bush funeral
is so HUGE it’s incomprehensible..."

The content of the envelopes would shock anyone, as you will see. But first, let me make a brief intro - an excerpt from Wikipedia:

Bush was promoted to lieutenant (junior grade) on August 1, 1944, and San Jacinto commenced operations against the Japanese in the Bonin Islands. He piloted one of the four Grumman TBM Avengers of VT-51 that attacked the Japanese installations on Chichijima on September 2, 1944. His crew included Radioman Second Class John Delaney and Lt.(jg) William White. His aircraft was hit by flak during the attack, but Bush successfully released bombs and scored several hits. With his engine ablaze, he flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member bailed out; the other man's parachute did not open. Bush spent four hours in an inflated raft, protected by fighter aircraft circling above, until the submarine USS Finback came to his rescue. He remained in Finback for the next month and participated in the rescue of other aviators. Several of those shot down during the attack were executed, and their livers were eaten by their captors. This experience shaped Bush profoundly, leading him to ask, "Why had I been spared and what did God have for me?"

Well, "God" manifested himself at the right time and through the event sometimes called "Act of God." This was for the first time in history when on the day POTUS dies, his country would be hit by a powerful earthquake:

7.0 Magnitude Earthquake Rocks Anchorage, Alaska
(https://www.iheart.com/content/2018-11-30-70-magnitude-earthquake-rocks-anchorage-alaska/)A powerful 7.0 magnitude earthquake struck Anchorage, Alaska on Friday(November 30) morning at 8:29 a.m. local time. Officials say the earthquake was centered about 10 miles north of the state's largest city that is home to nearly 300,000 people.

You must understand that the earthquake hit on 11/30 where 11+30=41, and George H. W. Bush was the 41. President of the United States. The math folks at Pentagon called this a very unusual coincidence and handed the event to the analysts. The UFO analysts started out with the basic conversion that they had learned from studying the UFO effects: if the powerful Alaska quake hit at 8:29 a.m. local time, then the time equals the 509th minute of the day, and 509 is a code number very familiar to them (and perhaps to some airmen of the bygone era, like George H.W. Bush):

The 509th Bomb Wing's History - From Flying Disks To Flying Wings
(http://foofighters.greyfalcon.us/The%20509th%20Bomb%20Wing.htm)The 509th has lots of things in its long history to be proud of; as many of you know, they dropped the only Atomic bombs ever used in anger. They also participated in many secret nuclear tests, in the US and the Pacific, in the 1940's and 1950's, and they were the first to "capture a flying disk according to radio reports from July of 1947. On July 8, 1947, a press release stating that the wreckage of a crashed disk had been recovered was issued by the Commander of the 509th Bomb Group at Roswell, New Mexico, Col. William Blanchard.

It took less than twelve hours before the Pentagon learned what really happened after lieutenant George H. W. Bush had bailed out from his crippled Avenger. While in his raft, he was taken by one of the alien search/recover vehicle and replaced by his identical flesh-and-bone copy, which is not uncommon. See, the earth-born George H. W. Bush was in no way capable of handling the Iraqi invasion into Kuwait nor could he effectively contribute to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and so an extraterrestrial copy of him equipped with an advanced mind had to be used, so the future earth events wouldn't trip over the unexpected.

The enveloped handed to the selected funeral attendees contained a handwritten note from the earth-born George H. W. Bush - something like "Hello, everyone. I'm OK and well-taken care of. You're weeping over a wrong guy." And there was a LOL face and his signature.

I don't know the whole story, as you can imagine - especially not the part how the Pentagon obtained the notes from the real Bush the elder. This is way too secret stuff.

East Sun

28th April 2019, 23:16

Maybe it was not god that interceded but we may never know what...

Phoenix

1st April 2020, 00:36

Has anyone gotten any updated information on this? Thanks all...

Praxis

2nd April 2020, 20:16

Aged like a MILK