Time is up, Q. I'm calling you out.

[ripple]

A huge difficulty the right will have, if Q turns out to be nonsense, is that they will be seen as naive and gullible . And extremely stupid.
Q has made seemingly endless promises and predictions , even though all were available from other sources if you looked closely .Regardless, hardly any came true -- perhaps there were one or two, though none spring to mind .
But now Q has run out of time because any day soon and definitely within the next two or three weeks the various White Dragon Societies apparently expose and destroy the final remnants of the Cabal , New World Order, Globalists etc etc . That is , according to the Gospel of Q the Divine . In fact Q has committed a fatal prophet's error -- made specific promises linked to a clear time line .
So could this phenomenon be a giant hoax actually instigated by the Deep State and presumably managed and edited by a group of influential individuals from the various Intel agencies and Government departments ? To make The Donald and the right look like a bunch of morons .
This notion appeals though I note that certain supposed close pals of The Donald, like Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi , seem to think Q is next to God . And therefore also part of The Donald .But :-
Martial law in the US within a few weeks ?
Military hearings in camera ?
A stream of new inmates to a refurbished and expanded Guantanamo ?
Paedophiles and Satanists by the cart load?
Really ? Or am I already part of a cartoon show and it is not real pain when I deliberately and repeatedly bash myself in my face ?

[enigma3]

Your information is so distorted I don't know where to start. Let's try this.
"Q" is not part of ANY White Dragon organization. Show me where you got this disinfo.
"Q" has made NO promises linked to ANY time line. He specifically has said repeatedly that he does not know how things will play out in any time line.
Most of the information Q has disclosed is NOT available through public channels. Go back and review the missile launch from Ketron Island or the information posted by Q relating to Epstein's Lolita Island, or the incident at the Trump golf course in Scotland, or any number of other info drops.
Examine the number of DOJ and FBI officials who have been removed.
Examine the number of CEO's and politicians from both parties who have been forced out.
Jerome Corsi, in the context of Q, has been outed as a fraud. Not believeable. Put on ignore. Not a "close pal" of the plotters.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but it appears that you have been hooked on disinformation. Lots of it.
We will not have to wait on this much longer. The "Patriots" have been rolling out their plan for 2 years now. Waiting for this time to happen, where the FBI has been cleaned out, the traitors at DOJ have been purged, the Supreme Court has been flipped to a conservative majority, a firm Senate majority (think judicial appointments) has been achieved, people have woken up, and some pretty serious Executive Orders are about to become reality.
One only needs to go back to the third day after the 2016 election and observe Admiral Mike Rodgers, at that time head of the NSA, go to Trump Tower to personally inform Trump that he was being spied on by traitorous elements within the government to see the beginning of this masterful plot to take down the truly satanic globalists. Hussein, Brennan, Comey and all their ilk knew from that day forward that something, some plot, was being activated against them. Trouble was, the NSA was on the side of the patriots. As Q has said - "we have it all" - thanks to the NSA.

Are you Bill Clinton and do you wish to have a personal (we know of 4 now) private meetup with Valerie Jarrett on the tarmac at some airport? Tisk tisk Bill. You took your phone with you in to that meetup. Doesn't matter if the phone is on of off. The NSA has it all.
Are you John McCain and do you want to have a private meetup with the senior honchos of ISIS in Syria to tell them more weapons are on the way? Tisk tisk dear departed John. You took your phone to that meetup. The NSA has it all.

All activities to this point are preparation for the unfolding ahead. We are now at the start of unfoldment that will begin after the new year. Enjoy the show!!

[ripple]

Your information is so distorted I don't know where to start.

Oh dear, Enigma .
Seems our humour is too obtuse and surreal for you .
And perhaps you take yourself just a little bit too seriously .
Regardless , I still think my satirical slant beats yours and by a huge margin .

[samildamach]

Your information is so distorted I don't know where to start.

Oh dear, Enigma .
Seems our humour is too obtuse and surreal for you .
And perhaps you take yourself just a little bit too seriously .
Regardless , I still think my satirical slant beats yours and by a huge margin .

I didn't have it down as a humorous article either missed the mark on that one.
Just the turning it around on enigma got that.

[ripple]

Your information is so distorted I don't know where to start.

Oh dear, Enigma .
Seems our humour is too obtuse and surreal for you .
And perhaps you take yourself just a little bit too seriously .
Regardless , I still think my satirical slant beats yours and by a huge margin .

I didn't have it down as a humorous article either missed the mark on that one.
Just the turning it around on enigma got that.

Last two lines in particular ?? !!!!!!
But have to admit that I never expected such a way out response and I guess it was written with complete belief and sincerity . Which is rather worrying as surely Q really is a crock of something --- and it aint gold .

[Bill Ryan]

[Mod hat on]

Folks, I do think this thread might be very useful if it contained, and focused on, incisive analysis (though still courteous to other members) of Q's mission, behavior, attitude, allegiance, identity, authenticity, and credibility.

Do note that besides the main 'Q' thread, there are also two others:


Q REVEALED. Member of Creator Team Confesses And Apologizes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104245-Q-REVEALED.-Member-of-Creator-Team-Confesses-And-Apologizes)
QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister)

It's actually an important issue, and merits intelligent discussion. As many members know, I have my own views, but haven't really said all that much. I do think the topic is legitimate. (It's also possible that this thread might be merged with the second of the two threads linked above.)


:focus:

[Arn]

Q is ritual magick
The point is to get people who would otherwise oppose (possibly violently) martial law, to beg for it.
Mission accomplished.

[ripple]

Taking Bill's suggestion , I offer this extract -- taken from that cast iron source of truth( Wiki , Ho Ho )

Some of QAnon's more concrete allegations include his February 16, 2018 false claim that U.S. Representative and former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz hired El Salvadorian gang MS-13 to murder DNC staffer Seth Rich and his March 1, 2018 apparent suggestion that German Chancellor Angela Merkel is the granddaughter of Adolf Hitler. A July 7, 2018 article published in The Daily Beast also noted that QAnon falsely claimed that "each mass shooting is a false-flag attack organized by the cabal". Other beliefs held by QAnon adherents include that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, George Soros, and others are planning a coup while simultaneously involved as members of an international child sex trafficking ring. According to this idea, the Mueller investigation is actually a countercoup led by Donald Trump, who pretended to collude with Russia in order to hire Robert Mueller to secretly investigate the Democrats. Another recurring theme is that certain Hollywood stars are pedophiles, and that the Rothschild family are the leaders of a satanic cult. By interpreting the information fed to them by Q, QAnon adherents come to these conclusions.

On multiple occasions, QAnon has dismissed his false claims and incorrect predictions as wilful misinformation, claiming that "disinformation is necessary".This has led Australian psychologist Stephan Lewandowsky to emphasize the "self-sealing" quality of the conspiracy theory, highlighting its anonymous purveyor's use of plausible deniability and noting that evidence against the theory "can become evidence of [its] validity in the minds of believers".


So , is this fair and accurate comment, QAnon followers ?
If not , where does it go wrong ?
Despite liking and understanding Arn's comment above , isn't it more likely that someone(s) are having fun and playing with something which started as 'a lark' but now could have very serious repercussions.People who have been mocked and toyed with ( if that turns out to be the case ) tend to get very angry and vengeful when the truth emerges.

[enigma3]

Saying your post is humorous after the fact is disingenuous. Following Wiki, which almost anyone can edit, is naive. Do your own due diligence using sources in the alt media. They lie the least. It won't be long now. First of the year.

[Ratszinger]

I think all the topics of Q have merit to be discussed openly, both good and bad views of it and multiple threads doesn't bother me at all. In fact it may help with those needing their, 'Q' fix because more threads means when one is dead and nothing new has been added another may have something yet that entertains.

With that said though I don't find Q entertaining so much as interesting. It's interesting to me that Donald Trump seems to be very good at directing the focus of his opposition. He trolls so well, and most of the time the ones trolled bite it and swallow hook line and sinker! Most every time after Trump seems to come out on top the winner in these exchanges. I've sat here and watched him control the left and where the are at mentally for nearly 2 yrs now.

That leaves another faction to control the focus on though. How to do that? Hmmm? Q is the answer. Direct and control their focus, what they are researching and so on. Done pretty well too and adding numbers to that control group all the time.

Now he needs not just the left and right off his back but he needs to get the focus of another elite group somewhere else and that elite group is the bunch I believe that put him in office, the bunch from Wall St. who now feel betrayed by Trump causing them to panic and all! So now they are off in their heads on another primary focus leaving Trump free to do untold things unchecked as all factions are thoroughly entrenched in their own minds!

So to me this is all about control of focus of specific groups or masses of people. Trump distracts the left, Q distracts the right and now both have everyone on Wall St. and the bank rate hike and panic going so far as to call out the plunge protection team.

[Buzzie]

There are, of course, trolls on this forum. Fortunately, they are fairly easy to spot.

[ripple]

Saying your post is humorous after the fact is disingenuous. Following Wiki, which almost anyone can edit, is naive. Do your own due diligence using sources in the alt media. They lie the least. It won't be long now. First of the year.


Your task is to refute the specific allegations and examples , Enigma. Not to offer me quaint home spun advice and try to deflect from the issues that you seem so fired to generally dispute but equally so careful not to specifically respond to .
And if you re-read my carefully written observations you will see that your criticisms are phoney. They do not apply to anything I have actually composed . They do however refer to points that you have created in your own imagination because you seem to have forgotten that they were authored by other parties based on coded QAnon messages ( allegedly) and then summarised on a Wiki entry . The extract I included is verbatim .
I am only the messenger . Let's see what sort of code breaker you are and how you begin to sensibly defend such a flood of cranky messages .
Or better still . Wait for the End of Times and we can all cheer The Donald ascending into the clouds . Still tweeting presumably .

[Mike Gorman]

Yes Buzzie, as they very clearly state the forum is a 'War Zone', the quantity of trolling, and 'shilling' reveals that genuine information is in fact being presented-if you disregard the cloak & dagger aspects, I think the objective of Q is very clear-to debrief 'normies' of their decades of mainstream media conditioning and generate cognitive dissonance, for people such as ourselves, who are experienced with entertaining alternative analysis, and trying out different ideas-and who have never trusted the mainstream narratives to begin with it is a bit simplistic. However, I think the control of the NSA by the new administration offers a way to reveal the extent of corruption and hypocrisy from the Obama/Clinton camp. I find it fascinating, and potentially very powerful.

[Ratszinger]

Powerful it is in the shear numbers it attracts. You now see someone wearing Q attire of some kind displaying it in about every city in the western world. What throws me is the three part equation of bad, meaning it's already a movement this Q thing but who profits on it? I have seen some in the beginning but the part that threw me was Q objecting to that and then apparently shutting it down, the profit off the movement. So it didn't ever turn into some Gaia TV Goode/Wilcock fantasy hour organized racketeering project like I expected. At the least this gave me pause to reconsider the movement. I really would like aspects of the "White Hats marching to victory theme" to be real. Really I would. I just don't believe in white hats anymore. They's all black!

[Buzzie]

Yes Mike Gorman. But I'm sorry to say that we must add the Bushes to your list.

[neutronstar]

Powerful it is in the shear numbers it attracts. You now see someone wearing Q attire of some kind displaying it in about every city in the western world.

That is correct. Everyone that is clued in knows about Q. Military, NSA, Trump. If Q is not Trump or goes against what he is trying to do, he would call the bluff. He dose it to everyone else. Think about that for a moment and what that means.

[abmqa]

Powerful it is in the shear numbers it attracts. You now see someone wearing Q attire of some kind displaying it in about every city in the western world.

That is correct. Everyone that is clued in knows about Q. Military, NSA, Trump. If Q is not Trump or goes against what he is trying to do, he would call the bluff. He dose it to everyone else. Think about that for a moment and what that means.


I have been lurking on the Q threads for quite some time now. What really confuses me is if Q is for Trump, and is communicating the "status" of the take down of the "Deep State"? Then why haven't they and Trump gone after the extremely low hanging fruit of 9-11?

If Trump is clued in as Q implies, then it should be very easy for him to expose the truth about 9-11. Just think of the impact him tweeting "9-11 was an inside job" would be huge!

The following caveat applies. My question is based on what I believe to be Q's agenda and motivation.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

If Trump is clued in as Q implies, then it should be very easy for him to expose the truth about 9-11. Just think of the impact him tweeting "9-11 was an inside job" would be huge!

It would be polarizing, too, and would instantly make everyone who hates him think the opposite, or that he is trying to create a distraction. That's how the thought process seems to work now on the other side of the aisle.

Moves are being made, though.


Grand Jury called to rule on the presence of explosives in the World Trade Centre on 11 September 2001

Voltaire Network | 17 December 2018

The Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry was set up in New York in February 2018. In April 2018, it filed a 52 page petition and 57 pieces of evidence before the Attorney General (the A-G) of the Southern District of New York. After the six month statutory period had elapsed, the A-G appointed a Grand Jury to examine the brief.

At this stage, the Lawyers Committee is not challenging Bush’s version of the 9/11 attacks. It is not stating an opinion on the impact of two planes that crashed into two of the three buildings destroyed. It focuses exclusively on the presence of explosives in the towers WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7. It states that the role they played on that date constitutes a federal crime which has till now been investigated.

The current A-G, S. Berman, was in the past a partner of Rudy Giuliani for two years. Mr Guiliani was the Mayor of New York at the time of the 9/11 attacks. Mr Giuliani called his citizens to evacuate the twin towers (WTC1 and WTC2), on the grounds that they could collapse as a consequence of the impact of the two planes (one plane against each of the two buildings). As it happens, these towers had been built to withstand far more violent shocks.

The Grand Jury hearing should take place in 2019. This will be the first time, eighteen years after the crime, that the US civil court (and not a military court) will make a decision on any aspect of a 11 September attacks.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article204389.html

[Frenchy]

edit, before I go to bed ! :-

... What really confuses me is if Q is for Trump, and is communicating the "status" of the take down of the "Deep State"? Then why haven't they and Trump gone after the extremely low hanging fruit of 9-11?

If Trump is clued in as Q implies, then it should be very easy for him to expose the truth about 9-11. Just think of the impact him tweeting "9-11 was an inside job" would be huge!
The following caveat applies. My question is based on what I believe to be Q's agenda and motivation.

Found this this evening. ( Ironically, while I was searching for L[d]R Lynne de Rotschild ! )

this might help you, abmqa, to see that much goes on, un-announced...

:muscle:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=180981

Scarce News on Admiral Stearney’s Death
By wmw_admin on December 23, 2018

Perhaps more fruitful and honest speculation comes from a person who is as forthcoming about his identity as Sorcha Faal is reticent, former CIA agent and Marine Corps officer, Robert David Steele ...
Here is Steele’s contribution:
UPDATE: My intentional provocation produced two push-packs, both equally credible:

01 [Admiral Stearney] was “suicided” (assassinated) because he was going forward with a false flag approved by Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Trump team got to him in time to stop it and message JSC (?). Sidebar: US Navy operation, Zionist preoccupied in Syria.

02 He was not assassinated by Bahreini at direction of ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), but rather “suicided” by a JSOG (Joint Special Operations Group) specialist (they are still responsive to Dick Cheney via COG channels) inserted into his special protection detail). Sidebar: JSOG is ready to abandon Dick Cheney & the Cabal, the SEALS that died over a false Bin Laden and were then culled after the fact are not forgotten.
I have no direct knowledge. What I do know, rooted in a blessed life, is that a false flag is planned that frames Iran for an attack on the US Navy; the US Navy has not cleaned house within 5th Fleet; we are still vulnerable to treason within the 5th Fleet.


********************************

While on the subject of action, any one here know what Abel Danger are up to ?
They've gone dark, too .........

[RaiseMachine]

You now see someone wearing Q attire of some kind displaying it in about every city in the western world.
Incorrect statement. There's nobody in the UK that wears Q attire that I've seen. Every US city perhaps...

As a reminder Q was called out as money spinning LARP back in May: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103970-Jordan-Sather-goes-on-Comedy-Central-w-Jim-Jefferies-to-talk-QAnon&p=1244836&viewfull=1#post1244836

[Ratszinger]

You now see someone wearing Q attire of some kind displaying it in about every city in the western world.
Incorrect statement. There's nobody in the UK that wears Q attire that I've seen. Every US city perhaps...

As a reminder Q was called out as money spinning LARP back in May: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103970-Jordan-Sather-goes-on-Comedy-Central-w-Jim-Jefferies-to-talk-QAnon&p=1244836&viewfull=1#post1244836

I thought Q posted pics of UK or Europeans and other people in the feed. I'm not going to look but I think there are pics there and probably videos. Whatever, Q is big enough to carry a forum that was unknown to big numbers in the ratings so someone is obviously interested or the numbers would be showing it.

[ripple]

6 , ----- 5 ,----- 4, ----- and counting .
Should I have a saver bet on Qanon at 1000-1 to cover my stake ?
Sweetheart , get me a Doctor's appointment for Monday . I have come over all schizo and I hate living in this cupboard .

[Lost N Found]

Oboy, I really love a good gunfight at the Ok corral. and ripple is the shill on the side pushing all the bets. The get rich quick scheme eh? Nice play rippy.

[Carmody]

I've noted the tone and also noted the 6.11 posts per day, for the short 6 weeks of being a member.

[muxfolder]

Still trust "the plan?" Please, don't.

[Lost N Found]

Still trust "the plan?" Please, don't.

why not? I have to ask, why are you who are in a complete different country of the world against a positive concept that has become a phenomenon in the United States. I would ask this also, is your country in anyway a Republic of freedom? Are or is your country controlled by a central government that oppresses the people. Yes the governments of the world seem to be this way but as we see today the peoples of the world are becoming awakened and Ideals such as Qanon are just one factor that is helping. I do not see how anyone can deny that fact as long as it has been happening and taking such a foothold around the world todate.

I see your avatar and it shouts very loudly the negativity of perhaps your life and so much in this world that is or has given up which in itself is a control factor of the Deep State, The Illuminati, the controllers of fear, hate and all the other crap we are fed daily from the MSM. Don't you in some sense want or wish that all this madness, this sickness will end? The very name of this thread states someones complete distrust in anything, especially Q. The opinion and very ego blown mind set of one or a few that shout that they want to control what others think is the projected problem of people with the motto of Trust no one. I guess what I am saying is you or others with that kind of motto would rather be the ones to be in control, okay of your own life, which is fine but to project your opinions to others and want to be able to control their thoughts your way is why this world is in such a sorry state today. I could and can be wrong but this is just what I see in my limited 70 years on this little blue spinning globe. SOOOOOOO, Thanks for the comment, I trully hope you find some positive in your life. it does help to prolong the health and life you know. We all gotta believe in something.

[muxfolder]

why not? I have to ask, why are you who are in a complete different country of the world against a positive concept that has become a phenomenon in the United States.

That's only what it has become - a phenomenon. You sit on your ass and wait for something to happen which does not happen. It's just like that "hope" Obama shouted to you in 2008 which was actually nothing. Have you seen those mass arrests as Q promised? Hillary behind the bars? Just "trust the plan" and be passive as you always were. Here's a newsflash to all of us here: we have to actually do something to make a difference. Hope-porn is a new disease which leads to nowhere.


I would ask this also, is your country in anyway a Republic of freedom? Are or is your country controlled by a central government that oppresses the people

Some fun facts of Finland. Finland (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/resources/the-world-factbook/geos/fi.html)

Btw, if you wanna know anything about any country, just check out what CIA has to say. They know.:ROFL:


Yes the governments of the world seem to be this way but as we see today the peoples of the world are becoming awakened and Ideals such as Qanon are just one factor that is helping. I do not see how anyone can deny that fact as long as it has been happening and taking such a foothold around the world todate.

I'm not going to deny this.:beer:


I see your avatar and it shouts very loudly the negativity of perhaps your life and so much in this world that is or has given up which in itself is a control factor of the Deep State, The Illuminati, the controllers of fear, hate and all the other crap we are fed daily from the MSM.

My avatar is from the tv-series The X-files. Just like my nickname is. It's a good tv-show really and recommend it to all of the Avalonians who have not yet seen it.

Or should I have a lion as my avatar instead? That's better then? That would be more positive, that's might be true. But I'm not that new-agy myself. I consider myself more of a realistic-type. Don't just blindly trust everything you see or hear or read on MSM. That's what my teacher told me when I was 14 and luckily I believed. She was such a wise woman. :clapping:



Don't you in some sense want or wish that all this madness, this sickness will end?

Of course I do. That's why we're here.


The very name of this thread states someones complete distrust in anything, especially Q. The opinion and very ego blown mind set of one or a few that shout that they want to control what others think is the projected problem of people with the motto of Trust no one.

So, in your opinion we should just blindly trust on Q? I fail to see the difference why is it better than any of the nonexistent false-hope-new-age what-ever it is that's been here on Avalon over the years thread after thread. Almost always psyop or whatever.


I guess what I am saying is you or others with that kind of motto would rather be the ones to be in control, okay of your own life, which is fine but to project your opinions to others and want to be able to control their thoughts your way is why this world is in such a sorry state today.

So you think "Trust No One" from a very popular tv-show is something to be worried about. It's not my motto. But that tv-show is actually the reason why I'm here. That show was why I started to research conspiracies and ufo's and other interesting stuff.


I could and can be wrong but this is just what I see in my limited 70 years on this little blue spinning globe. SOOOOOOO, Thanks for the comment, I trully hope you find some positive in your life. it does help to prolong the health and life you know. We all gotta believe in something.

I'm really sorry if I shattered your world somehow. That was not my intention, I was only trying to point out some facts. And I do believe a lot of things. At least I believe that there are lot of good information here on Avalon.

[Lost N Found]

why not? I have to ask, why are you who are in a complete different country of the world against a positive concept that has become a phenomenon in the United States.

That's only what it has become - a phenomenon. You sit on your ass and wait for something to happen which does not happen. It's just like that "hope" Obama shouted to you in 2008 which was actually nothing. Have you seen those mass arrests as Q promised? Hillary behind the bars? Just "trust the plan" and be passive as you always were. Here's a newsflash to all of us here: we have to actually do something to make a difference. Hope-porn is a new disease which leads to nowhere.


I would ask this also, is your country in anyway a Republic of freedom? Are or is your country controlled by a central government that oppresses the people

Some fun facts of Finland. Finland (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/resources/the-world-factbook/geos/fi.html)

Btw, if you wanna know anything about any country, just check out what CIA has to say. They know.:ROFL:


Yes the governments of the world seem to be this way but as we see today the peoples of the world are becoming awakened and Ideals such as Qanon are just one factor that is helping. I do not see how anyone can deny that fact as long as it has been happening and taking such a foothold around the world todate.

I'm not going to deny this.:beer:


I see your avatar and it shouts very loudly the negativity of perhaps your life and so much in this world that is or has given up which in itself is a control factor of the Deep State, The Illuminati, the controllers of fear, hate and all the other crap we are fed daily from the MSM.

My avatar is from the tv-series The X-files. Just like my nickname is. It's a good tv-show really and recommend it to all of the Avalonians who have not yet seen it.

Or should I have a lion as my avatar instead? That's better then? That would be more positive, that's might be true. But I'm not that new-agy myself. I consider myself more of a realistic-type. Don't just blindly trust everything you see or hear or read on MSM. That's what my teacher told me when I was 14 and luckily I believed. She was such a wise woman. :clapping:



Don't you in some sense want or wish that all this madness, this sickness will end?

Of course I do. That's why we're here.


The very name of this thread states someones complete distrust in anything, especially Q. The opinion and very ego blown mind set of one or a few that shout that they want to control what others think is the projected problem of people with the motto of Trust no one.

So, in your opinion we should just blindly trust on Q? I fail to see the difference why is it better than any of the nonexistent false-hope-new-age what-ever it is that's been here on Avalon over the years thread after thread. Almost always psyop or whatever.


I guess what I am saying is you or others with that kind of motto would rather be the ones to be in control, okay of your own life, which is fine but to project your opinions to others and want to be able to control their thoughts your way is why this world is in such a sorry state today.

So you think "Trust No One" from a very popular tv-show is something to be worried about. It's not my motto. But that tv-show is actually the reason why I'm here. That show was why I started to research conspiracies and ufo's and other interesting stuff.


I could and can be wrong but this is just what I see in my limited 70 years on this little blue spinning globe. SOOOOOOO, Thanks for the comment, I trully hope you find some positive in your life. it does help to prolong the health and life you know. We all gotta believe in something.

I'm really sorry if I shattered your world somehow. That was not my intention, I was only trying to point out some facts. And I do believe a lot of things. At least I believe that there are lot of good information here on Avalon.

Well of course a phenomenon but certainly much more and that is why so many continually sling crap at the entire idea, concept, reality. So many don't want to believe in anything that could or is a movement of people waking up. We all have a belief in something don't you think, What is your belief?

So just exactly what is it that you get off your butt and do to make things better for the world. Well I quess I could ask what do you do to make things better for yourself. Not a bad question because that is the crux of the matter I believe in this world.

So I don't know you and you don't know me. Fair enough. I am not and never have been an Obozo follower. I think and thought he was the most evil piece of crap that ever got pushed in the worlds face. I don't reside with socialism or any of that crap, doesn't work, never has and the Demms of this country are all full of crap. In fact I believe the Republicrats are full of it also. So you sound like you might think some way the same. Sure the Hopium is out there and yes there is and has been alot. Could that be why you are so locked against anything that might seem like it could be a better way for the people of earth to live or be free from the sick insane governments? Just take a look at the Yellow vest movement today and how that has spread through out the world now. Keeps popping up in so many different countries. This was an idea that seeded itself in France and the people grabbed a hold and stood up. That is getting off your butt and doing something isn't it? Someone said that Q was not shown in Europe but that is not true. There are pictures of people with the yellow vests on holding up signs with the big letter Q on them, there are people chanting for Q and Trump in Europe.

This forum has many folks from different countries standing up for the Q business so yes it is a phenomenon but it is spreading and more real than you might think. People are standing up and getting off their butts over Q so give that some thought while you hang out in the beautiful little country of Finland. Think about how the DS could take over your neck of the woods and you will wish you could get off your butt and fight for your freedom.

Now as for the new agers, You are clearly stating that you could be one of these brain dead people. or maybe not. Your mention of watching the X-files, wow such a clear UFO cult show and plastered on the TV by the New Agers by the way. So you recommend it for anybody on this forum but perhaps you do not understand that not every body gets locked into a new age show such as that. Oh wait, we are talking about belief systems again aren't be? So there you are all wrapped up in the entire concept of the X-files and believing what was pushed by that hollywood show. Here I am believing in a concept of fighting for a freedom that is pushed by a figure or person or people that call themselves Q. Lets see, on one hand belief in a tv show that pushes conspiracy theories, on the other hand belief in a figure that pushes a concept of freedom, hey that could be a conspiracy theory also. Sooooooo it comes down to what you personally believe doesn't it and what is real in your own eyes. Well good for you Muxfolder. Keep on living in your beliefs and hopefully they will come true for you while I do the same here. Wow looks like we have something in common now doesn't it?

One last bit, I am sorry that you are sorry for thinking you might have shattered my world. No you have not accomplished any such thing if that is your intention. My world is whole and real and doing just fine. It is the illusion that you may harbor that could be a problem so I would have to say I am sorry for you. Sure there may be a lot of info on this forum that is good. I agree with that. it is people standing up and asking questions and digging for truth and presenting others opinions plus their own that gives us all a waking up. The very same thing that Q is doing in the world. HELLO.

Thanks for the insight. a bit of the ale I say.

[muxfolder]

why not? I have to ask, why are you who are in a complete different country of the world against a positive concept that has become a phenomenon in the United States.

That's only what it has become - a phenomenon. You sit on your ass and wait for something to happen which does not happen. It's just like that "hope" Obama shouted to you in 2008 which was actually nothing. Have you seen those mass arrests as Q promised? Hillary behind the bars? Just "trust the plan" and be passive as you always were. Here's a newsflash to all of us here: we have to actually do something to make a difference. Hope-porn is a new disease which leads to nowhere.


I would ask this also, is your country in anyway a Republic of freedom? Are or is your country controlled by a central government that oppresses the people

Some fun facts of Finland. Finland (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/resources/the-world-factbook/geos/fi.html)

Btw, if you wanna know anything about any country, just check out what CIA has to say. They know.:ROFL:


Yes the governments of the world seem to be this way but as we see today the peoples of the world are becoming awakened and Ideals such as Qanon are just one factor that is helping. I do not see how anyone can deny that fact as long as it has been happening and taking such a foothold around the world todate.

I'm not going to deny this.:beer:


I see your avatar and it shouts very loudly the negativity of perhaps your life and so much in this world that is or has given up which in itself is a control factor of the Deep State, The Illuminati, the controllers of fear, hate and all the other crap we are fed daily from the MSM.

My avatar is from the tv-series The X-files. Just like my nickname is. It's a good tv-show really and recommend it to all of the Avalonians who have not yet seen it.

Or should I have a lion as my avatar instead? That's better then? That would be more positive, that's might be true. But I'm not that new-agy myself. I consider myself more of a realistic-type. Don't just blindly trust everything you see or hear or read on MSM. That's what my teacher told me when I was 14 and luckily I believed. She was such a wise woman. :clapping:



Don't you in some sense want or wish that all this madness, this sickness will end?

Of course I do. That's why we're here.


The very name of this thread states someones complete distrust in anything, especially Q. The opinion and very ego blown mind set of one or a few that shout that they want to control what others think is the projected problem of people with the motto of Trust no one.

So, in your opinion we should just blindly trust on Q? I fail to see the difference why is it better than any of the nonexistent false-hope-new-age what-ever it is that's been here on Avalon over the years thread after thread. Almost always psyop or whatever.


I guess what I am saying is you or others with that kind of motto would rather be the ones to be in control, okay of your own life, which is fine but to project your opinions to others and want to be able to control their thoughts your way is why this world is in such a sorry state today.

So you think "Trust No One" from a very popular tv-show is something to be worried about. It's not my motto. But that tv-show is actually the reason why I'm here. That show was why I started to research conspiracies and ufo's and other interesting stuff.


I could and can be wrong but this is just what I see in my limited 70 years on this little blue spinning globe. SOOOOOOO, Thanks for the comment, I trully hope you find some positive in your life. it does help to prolong the health and life you know. We all gotta believe in something.

I'm really sorry if I shattered your world somehow. That was not my intention, I was only trying to point out some facts. And I do believe a lot of things. At least I believe that there are lot of good information here on Avalon.

Well of course a phenomenon but certainly much more and that is why so many continually sling crap at the entire idea, concept, reality. So many don't want to believe in anything that could or is a movement of people waking up. We all have a belief in something don't you think, What is your belief?

So just exactly what is it that you get off your butt and do to make things better for the world. Well I quess I could ask what do you do to make things better for yourself. Not a bad question because that is the crux of the matter I believe in this world.

So I don't know you and you don't know me. Fair enough. I am not and never have been an Obozo follower. I think and thought he was the most evil piece of crap that ever got pushed in the worlds face. I don't reside with socialism or any of that crap, doesn't work, never has and the Demms of this country are all full of crap. In fact I believe the Republicrats are full of it also. So you sound like you might think some way the same. Sure the Hopium is out there and yes there is and has been alot. Could that be why you are so locked against anything that might seem like it could be a better way for the people of earth to live or be free from the sick insane governments? Just take a look at the Yellow vest movement today and how that has spread through out the world now. Keeps popping up in so many different countries. This was an idea that seeded itself in France and the people grabbed a hold and stood up. That is getting off your butt and doing something isn't it? Someone said that Q was not shown in Europe but that is not true. There are pictures of people with the yellow vests on holding up signs with the big letter Q on them, there are people chanting for Q and Trump in Europe.

This forum has many folks from different countries standing up for the Q business so yes it is a phenomenon but it is spreading and more real than you might think. People are standing up and getting off their butts over Q so give that some thought while you hang out in the beautiful little country of Finland. Think about how the DS could take over your neck of the woods and you will wish you could get off your butt and fight for your freedom.

Now as for the new agers, You are clearly stating that you could be one of these brain dead people. or maybe not. Your mention of watching the X-files, wow such a clear UFO cult show and plastered on the TV by the New Agers by the way. So you recommend it for anybody on this forum but perhaps you do not understand that not every body gets locked into a new age show such as that. Oh wait, we are talking about belief systems again aren't be? So there you are all wrapped up in the entire concept of the X-files and believing what was pushed by that hollywood show. Here I am believing in a concept of fighting for a freedom that is pushed by a figure or person or people that call themselves Q. Lets see, on one hand belief in a tv show that pushes conspiracy theories, on the other hand belief in a figure that pushes a concept of freedom, hey that could be a conspiracy theory also. Sooooooo it comes down to what you personally believe doesn't it and what is real in your own eyes. Well good for you Muxfolder. Keep on living in your beliefs and hopefully they will come true for you while I do the same here. Wow looks like we have something in common now doesn't it?

One last bit, I am sorry that you are sorry for thinking you might have shattered my world. No you have not accomplished any such thing if that is your intention. My world is whole and real and doing just fine. It is the illusion that you may harbor that could be a problem so I would have to say I am sorry for you. Sure there may be a lot of info on this forum that is good. I agree with that. it is people standing up and asking questions and digging for truth and presenting others opinions plus their own that gives us all a waking up. The very same thing that Q is doing in the world. HELLO.

Thanks for the insight. a bit of the ale I say.

You do realize this is a thread about Q being fake? I too was hoping it might be something really big, but it seems it's not. Where's the proof that something they said actually came to pass? There are only bunch of stupid questions.

The X-files is a good tv-show. Nothing more. I still recommend to all those who watch tv or dvd's or Netflix or what ever. Nothing wrong about that.

[Lost N Found]

"You do realize this is a thread about Q being fake? I too was hoping it might be something really big, but it seems it's not. Where's the proof that something they said actually came to pass? There are only bunch of stupid questions."

The X-files is a good tv-show. Nothing more. I still recommend to all those who watch tv or dvd's or Netflix or what ever. Nothing wrong about that. "

Yes I realized that a bit ago, when I first saw it. That is why I came in and posted what I have. I figured this thread was started to do nothing more than put down Q so thought to look at another side. Guess there are always two sides to most things. As for Stupid questions, I don't or didn't find the questions to be stupid but rather making others think a bit deeper than the usually surface paste provided by the MSM.

Yeah the X-files was an interesting TV show and I know so many that followed it to its max and as usual for the cult mentality got real pissed when it ended. MORE, MORE, MORE was the chant and of course if something else came back it was never the same. Well I would guess that is the way with most things that suck folks in. Starts out real good to get the most to play then just ends on a note of WTF type of thing.

Well anyway. Okay to do these things I guess. As I stated above Q is the same. came on the scene and started the revolution just like those TV shows that got the following. Here is a few Star Wars, Star Trek, The Matrix, Need I go on. How many fell into the groupy thing with all of that. Okay to do so and I would suspect there are plenty of folks that are still inside. Well Just giving my side of the Q and how he or they have awakened a nation and perhaps a world to things that were buried for a long time and still are. What could be wrong about that? Hey, The X-Files may have done the same thing to people that paid close attention. Wake up folks they is way more out there than what you have ever been taught to think and see. So that is my take.

Thanks for the conversation and stimulation. See Avalon is good to stimulate the mind. I will leave this thread and let the skeptics have it back so maybe someone might get a lightbulb shine through. Thanks again Muxfolder.