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just gaz
28th December 2018, 06:42
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Ultima Thule
28th December 2018, 10:10
I can’t decide whether the two original videos or this explanatory video is more lazy and unthorough.

UT

ripple
28th December 2018, 10:27
The term , ' Caveat Emptor ' , is equally applicable to alleged photo and video testimony . That is , do not buy into any material until you have independent and expert proof that it has not been manipulated .
And even if amazingly this is not shopped, then apply something like Occam's Razor and choose between deliberate disinfo or a US test pilot with a misguided sense of humour before fantasising about little grey robots doing the bidding of their puppet masters who are parked upstairs in the mother ship .

Bill Ryan
28th December 2018, 14:48
As I posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1265717&viewfull=1#post1265717) on my personal Q-and-A thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--), it was an admitted CGI fabrication.

This page states it's a creation by Adyor Vanderlei from Volta Seven Studios. (Unfortunately!)

https://adyorism.com/2018/12/21/pyramid-over-pentagon-aka-the-pentagon-pyramid

waree
28th December 2018, 15:29
Even if it is CGI. Why would Pentagon allow that CGI on top of it? Is it ok even after 9/11? Is it some sort of ritual? Who is this guy who created it? What's the purpose of creating such an elaborate work and not taking credit for it? Why no news talking about it even in the entertainment section? It's just eerily weird. I will just put that in the back of my mind. May be all the videos that came out was just a hoax anyway. ... :sun:

Bill Ryan
28th December 2018, 16:06
Even if it is CGI. Why would Pentagon allow that CGI on top of it? Is it ok even after 9/11? Is it some sort of ritual? Who is this guy who created it? What's the purpose of creating such an elaborate work and not taking credit for it? Why no news talking about it even in the entertainment section? It's just eerily weird. I will just put that in the back of my mind. May be all the videos that came out was just a hoax anyway. ... :sun:

'CGI' means Computer-Generated Imagery. The video was all created on a computer, with software. There was never anything visible over the actual Pentagon!

waree
28th December 2018, 16:19
Even if it is CGI. Why would Pentagon allow that CGI on top of it? Is it ok even after 9/11? Is it some sort of ritual? Who is this guy who created it? What's the purpose of creating such an elaborate work and not taking credit for it? Why no news talking about it even in the entertainment section? It's just eerily weird. I will just put that in the back of my mind. May be all the videos that came out was just a hoax anyway. ... :sun:

'CGI' means Computer-Generated Imagery. The video was all created on a computer, with software. There was never anything visible over the actual Pentagon!

I know what CGI means. But CGI above it is allow? That was my question. :blushing:

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Like I said. They all might be just a hoax. Sometime weird things are having just a simple answer... I will leave it at that. :bowing:

Bill Ryan
28th December 2018, 16:21
I know what CGI means. But CGI above it is allow? That was my question. :blushing:

You don't understand. :) There was nothing above the Pentagon. It was like watching a Mickey Mouse cartoon, created with software. It wasn't real. There was nothing there in real life, and nothing to see.

waree
28th December 2018, 16:31
Yes I know. I really know what it means. I'm from Thailand but I know what CGI means since the time I was teenager and want to be movie director in Hollywood. :) I concede that it is a nothing burger, but my conspiratorial mind keeps wondering... sorry haha... :highfive:

Bowie Boiii
28th December 2018, 16:35
Because somebody claims it was CGI, does that really 100% verify that it was CGI? Or, might this just be disinformation, to get us to look the other way?

Ultima Thule
28th December 2018, 17:40
Even if the video was real or it wasn’t - the point in my opinion is that it was (and this discussion I am contributing to) is noise. This video reminds of the good-ole noise to signal -ratio thread.

If you begin a thread, proverbial hit-and-run -technique should be just stopped. One must think about these things beforehand, check out, do some research and then consider if the thread still merits posting and then lay out the findings and main points. Main point can’t be throwing stuff out for other members to spend their time figuring out.

This is not personal, I am grumpy at this phenomena, not at the op.

UT

Soullight
31st January 2019, 00:15
What on earth is going on and how could I have missed any of this?

Special announcement at the UN. Apparently the woman (alien?) speaking at the UN is a real person. https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliyaprokofyeva/

If this all is for real I’m glad someone in the viewing area decided to video this and didn’t listen to the instructions that no video or audio recording was allowed. Here’s the video.

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Someone found the 12 hour footage of the same day when Trump was speaking at the UN. Now here's the catch...the footage of that woman speaking wasn't in this 12 hour footage. HOWEVER...what they found was that the blonde on the left, wearing Pink jacket, black skirt is also in both videos.

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Here’s a video of the pyramid UFO over the Pentagon which supposedly made contact with our Government.

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And here’s a video showing three different cameras capturing it.

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Also, here's another video (which I did see before) of the same type of pyramid UFO over Moscow.

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What other alien culture would have a pyramid for a space ship besides the Annunaki (who are most likely are the ones that govern the Illuminati)? Could explain why the world is getting crazier and worse at an accelerated rate. The Illuminati and their Agenda 21/31, etc, has become so bold and obvious and yet nothing seems to be able to stop them.

:ufo::cantina::sherlock:

DeDukshyn
31st January 2019, 00:35
Hmmm ... that, at first glance, looks very interesting ...

Soullight
31st January 2019, 00:39
Someone suggested hoax and viral marketing is at play here. That would suck. But kudos on it being a very good hoax if true.

https://aliya.space/kto-ya

https://aliya.space/book

http://galaktika.shop/

CurEus
31st January 2019, 01:17
Time will tell, but even if just a hoax it may get a conversation about disclosure going!

I believe there have been pyramid UFO's over Russia and China
Quite similar looking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y13iq0MGKfE

DeDukshyn
31st January 2019, 01:21
Time will tell, but even if just a hoax it may get a conversation about disclosure going!

I believe there have been pyramid UFO's over Russia and China
Quite similar looking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y13iq0MGKfE

The last video in the OP is the one in this vid.

CurEus
31st January 2019, 01:22
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fast-radio-burst-frb-mysterious-repeating-radio-waves-signal-fast-radio-burst-discovered-2019-01-09/

CurEus
31st January 2019, 01:25
Her website is a bit "off" so am Just going to say that the Speaker from the Space Platform Galaktica............is probably faking this.

https://aliya.space/kto-ya

DeDukshyn
31st January 2019, 01:40
So I'm watching again more closely ... and thinking a few things on the woman's speech ...

1st question ... going by who she is based on internet info, would th eUN ever hear anything this women has to say? I'd say maybe. The UN has listened to a reasonably eclectic range of speakers.

2nd question ... is the audio dubbed over somehow? No ... she actually appears to be saying the things we hear

3rd question ... Is that really a video of a live UN session? I'm going to say no. It appears to be a recording off of a screen and the times where the camera is blocked - it appears to me tha the screen that is being recorded from is being blocked (I have extensive video and still camera experience) ... but that doesn't really mean anything - someone could be in theory recording off of a security monitor for example. It does look like a genuine UN session - the pink suit lady and even the light coloured chair can be seen in the second OP video of a full session.

4th question ... let's assume such a speech to be made to the UN was real ... would she really be the person nominated to give that speech? Whats the process for being allowed to make a UN speech I wonder?

Comment #1 ... Just because someone makes a speech at the UN, it doesn't necessarily make them credible.



Could this speech have been faked with CGI? Possible, but the skill level, time, and tools needed would all be on the higher end of the spectrum - a small ffects studio could do it, but that would be extremely difficult for an individual or a group of amateurs.

Still mildly interesting (but also still likely hoax / viral marketing) ... and if totally fake, I'm a little impressed by how it would have had to have been done. It actually does look like a legit UN speech ...

DeDukshyn
31st January 2019, 01:56
 
A 12 minute interview with her here on all things space ... she wants to build a "hotel" on the moon ...

https://www.cnnmoney.ch/shows/tech-talk/videos/aliya-prokofyeva-reaching-stars

Chip
31st January 2019, 03:25
Aliya is obviously a real person (and quite an interesting one).
The UN speech I’m certain will be found to be something akin to what was recently created below.
https://youtu.be/r1jng79a5xc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jng79a5xc

Soullight
31st January 2019, 06:28
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In both versions of "Jennifer" you can see odd shading around her neck. Easier to patch that way?

But the UN speech is pretty far away. However, anything can be faked now days. Aliya does have a different lighting around her when she sits down, etc. But I don't know of anyone wearing those clothes of hers and putting her head onto that body? So they would have to edit her entire body into the speakers place. But which speaker are they replacing?

As I look at it there is also an odd choppy type movement to Aliya. But who is filming this? Seems an odd angel, not to mention the poor quality. Seems like a lot of work went into this if is a fake.

Hmmm, oh well.

ripple
31st January 2019, 07:42
Common sense tells you it is a hoax .

Let Alone
A really GOOD WAY TO CHECK DATES ON GLP POSTED VIDEOS
WITH NO INFORMATION GIVEN...

1. Right click the video as it is playing
2. copy the URL link that shows up in the menu box
3. Go to a new BROWSER
4. Put the URL in the google search box
5. Check the inforamation that USUALLY comes with the
posted YouTube version of the video...You should get
the date...

this url date is December 9, 2009...NOT LAST YEAR.
Excellent fun but there are too many gullible people around who will take no notice of facts .

Flash
31st January 2019, 07:59
So hoax in the title maybe?

ripple
31st January 2019, 09:38
So hoax in the title maybe?

I keep returning to the Zharkova solar magnetic fields findings and wonder whether they should be presented to the UN . I appreciate there are huge plusses and minuses in terms of immediate consequences and everybody will be petrified about making an unforgivable mistake .

But you can forget about UFOs and any other matters except where to bury the bodies and who to next kill to get your next meal --- if Valentina and her team are right .

And even NASA quietly endorsed the findings this week .

Gemma13
31st January 2019, 11:05
Discussion on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/aldfvt/un_discuss_ufo_pyramid_over_the_pentagon/

apokalypse
31st January 2019, 11:30
first few second of the speech at UN about UFO when she said extraterrestrial contact occur..kind of holy cow moment which make me shaking little, like many of you i have read and heard all kind of stuff about Et's but when it happen i might collapse.

seems strange that so many stuff come about regarding UFO and stuff..something happening soon?

waree
31st January 2019, 12:52
Interesting

waree
31st January 2019, 13:25
I don't see December 9, 2009. How did you do it?

Did You See Them
31st January 2019, 15:47
Something odd just after she's approached the podium - watch how she puts her right hand on it - it just looks .. wrong !

My Take - Marketing stunt.

DNA
31st January 2019, 15:58
Don't worry, their French. :becky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7vs_2PfYq4

Did You See Them
31st January 2019, 16:08
Looks like its a different video angle of this speech by Erdogan.

http://webtv.un.org/search/turkey-%E2%80%93-president-addresses-general-debate-73rd-session/5839883153001/?term=&lan=english&page=187

At 0.50 in the woman in Pink takes a phone photo - as per the "UN Disclosure" vid.

https://imgur.com/a/WY9pBdf

Soullight
31st January 2019, 16:10
Common sense tells you it is a hoax .

Let Alone
A really GOOD WAY TO CHECK DATES ON GLP POSTED VIDEOS
WITH NO INFORMATION GIVEN...

1. Right click the video as it is playing
2. copy the URL link that shows up in the menu box
3. Go to a new BROWSER
4. Put the URL in the google search box
5. Check the inforamation that USUALLY comes with the
posted YouTube version of the video...You should get
the date...

this url date is December 9, 2009...NOT LAST YEAR.
Excellent fun but there are too many gullible people around who will take no notice of facts .

WHY would the woman in pink be wearing the same outfit back in 2009?

What dates are on the various puramid ufo videos since Aliya is talking about that?


Anyway, found this. Describes how to distinguish between when a video was uploaded vs. when it was published.

Only question is IF this still works? And can this process be manipulated by YouTube or the Cabal IF they had some hidden agenda, etc? How would the average person KNOW for sure if this was correct and if they weren’t being played?

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Soullight
31st January 2019, 16:20
Looks like its a different video angle of this speech by Erdogan.

http://webtv.un.org/search/turkey-%E2%80%93-president-addresses-general-debate-73rd-session/5839883153001/?term=&lan=english&page=187

At 0.50 in the woman in Pink takes a phone photo - as per the "UN Disclosure" vid.

https://imgur.com/a/WY9pBdf


Pink lady might take pics of everyone, or certain people? But this doesn’t look like the same vid as the male guide directs his arm towards chair for Erdogan to sit, and again towards the podium when he is to speak. Also, Erdogan adjust the microphones.

Aliya is neither directed to sit by the guide, nor does she adjust the microphones on the podium.

Bob
31st January 2019, 16:45
Just a quick primer about photographing "things in the sky" - how it's been done for ages..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcqyoYfHIFM

Pepper's Ghost is a special effects technique for creating transparent ghostly images. (or floating UFO's, especially semi-transparent ones)

It works by reflecting the image of a ghost off of a sheet of plexiglass or one can view such through "transparent" glass because at an angle there is a slight amount of reflection (Disney "imagineers" used this effect a lot btw).

This effect has been a staple of theaters and haunted houses since John Pepper popularized it in the 1800s. It's been fooling people ever since.

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OP post 1 video link: https://youtu.be/HABC13OQn0Y this is precisely what "Prepper's Ghost" technique was designed to create by filming a backdrop, then optically mixing in with the partially transparent sheet, shooting through it.. The result a "floating UFO" or for that matter a floating kitty cat or whatever..

Adding in a "Pink lady" dub-in using a monitor or two multiple video sources and simple Prepper's Ghost methods are easy. Fools everyone in other words.. It's been around since the 1800's is the point.

Here is a link for anyone wanting to understand in laypeople's terms how this great illusion works (NO CGI is needed, this is stuff kids can do with good cameras and some simple props)

ref: https://www.instructables.com/id/The-Peppers-Ghost-Illusion/

ripple
31st January 2019, 17:51
I don't see December 9, 2009. How did you do it?

Remote View initially followed up by channeling through EC .

Kryztian
31st January 2019, 22:06
1. Right click the video as it is playing
2. copy the URL link that shows up in the menu box
3. Go to a new BROWSER
4. Put the URL in the google search box
5. Check the inforamation that USUALLY comes with the
posted YouTube version of the video...You should get
the date...

this url date is December 9, 2009...NOT LAST YEAR.
Excellent fun but there are too many gullible people around who will take no notice of facts .

Um, No, that isn't what happens.
The URL link is https://youtu.be/d8jBTyc27DU and that video was uploaded Jan 29, 2019, not December 9, 2009.

DeDukshyn
1st February 2019, 00:05
Common sense tells you it is a hoax .

Let Alone
A really GOOD WAY TO CHECK DATES ON GLP POSTED VIDEOS
WITH NO INFORMATION GIVEN...

1. Right click the video as it is playing
2. copy the URL link that shows up in the menu box
3. Go to a new BROWSER
4. Put the URL in the google search box
5. Check the inforamation that USUALLY comes with the
posted YouTube version of the video...You should get
the date...

this url date is December 9, 2009...NOT LAST YEAR.
Excellent fun but there are too many gullible people around who will take no notice of facts .

Did anyone do this and get the results Ripple is referring to here before thanking his post? I can not replicate what he is saying at all ... anyone? ... anyone? ... Bueller?

Well I seem to have found the video it may be based on (with a CGI composite of the woman overlayed) and its from 2018 ... so that makes the 2009 claim not remotely possible.

So I have no clue what you are on about Ripple, did you even watch the video? Why are you referencing GLP?... you sure seem confident though, but confidence alone is not going to cut it ...

And the logic "it's from 2009 so obviously a hoax" ... Just because something is from 2009 doesn't necessarily make it a hoax ... I'm pretty sure things happened before that point in time ...

This looks like the original footage (Erdogan UN speech from 2018)
https://www.gettyimages.it/detail/video/the-un-security-council-currently-serves-the-filmati-di-cronaca/1044408794

It was definitely a lot of work to make this video ... well done to the video and effects team. A lot of green paint must have been used. ;)

DeDukshyn
1st February 2019, 00:18
I don't see December 9, 2009. How did you do it?

Remote View initially followed up by channeling through EC .

You may have gotten better results had you actually used those methods ... see my above post.

DeDukshyn
1st February 2019, 00:23
 
Ahhh, Here we go ... a side by side for direct comparison ...

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DeDukshyn
1st February 2019, 00:26
Looks like its a different video angle of this speech by Erdogan.

http://webtv.un.org/search/turkey-%E2%80%93-president-addresses-general-debate-73rd-session/5839883153001/?term=&lan=english&page=187

At 0.50 in the woman in Pink takes a phone photo - as per the "UN Disclosure" vid.

https://imgur.com/a/WY9pBdf

My apologies to Did you See Them ... I didn't see that post previously -- good call -- you were on the right track.

ripple
1st February 2019, 12:32
I don't see December 9, 2009. How did you do it?

Remote View initially followed up by channeling through EC .

You may have gotten better results had you actually used those methods ... see my above post.


Does it matter how many fairies can dance on a needle tip?

A hoax , is a hoax , is a hoax .

Unless you love Fairy stories . :bigsmile:

RunningDeer
1st February 2019, 14:28
I don't see December 9, 2009. How did you do it?
Remote View initially followed up by channeling through EC .




1. Right click the video as it is playing
2. copy the URL link that shows up in the menu box
3. Go to a new BROWSER
4. Put the URL in the google search box
5. Check the inforamation that USUALLY comes with the
posted YouTube version of the video...You should get
the date...

this url date is December 9, 2009...NOT LAST YEAR.
Excellent fun but there are too many gullible people around who will take no notice of facts .

Um, No, that isn't what happens.
The URL link is https://youtu.be/d8jBTyc27DU and that video was uploaded Jan 29, 2019, not December 9, 2009.

ripple was talking about the 5th video in the OP. The quick way to view the date is click on the address below the video and it brings it up. Or “control-click” will open it into a new window.


https://i.imgur.com/Zfflwjo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

As for the 3rd video in the OP, the YouTuber provides the original in the summary.





Not my original video, though I did the enhancements. I stabilized the image, then increased brightness and added frames together to reduce noise. Later, I sped it up so you can see the strange movement more easily. Here is the original video: https://youtu.be/1rlsIR34jO8

I may have shown the date wrong. It was posted on the 19th, but recorded on the 18th.



Original - UFO over the Pentagon, Washington DC, 2018 (1:14 minutes)
1rlsIR34jO8
Alex Dude
Published on Dec 19, 2018

I spotted this object from the Arlington cemetery on evening of December 18th. I think this is military guys testing some new weapon, stealth tech, etc. I do not believe in UFO, so stop writing me messages about UFO. This video is FREE for SHARE. Just leave a link to this video in the descriptioon of yours.

DeDukshyn
1st February 2019, 16:32
I don't see December 9, 2009. How did you do it?
Remote View initially followed up by channeling through EC .




1. Right click the video as it is playing
2. copy the URL link that shows up in the menu box
3. Go to a new BROWSER
4. Put the URL in the google search box
5. Check the inforamation that USUALLY comes with the
posted YouTube version of the video...You should get
the date...

this url date is December 9, 2009...NOT LAST YEAR.
Excellent fun but there are too many gullible people around who will take no notice of facts .

Um, No, that isn't what happens.
The URL link is https://youtu.be/d8jBTyc27DU and that video was uploaded Jan 29, 2019, not December 9, 2009.

ripple was talking about the 5th video in the OP. The quick way to view the date is click on the address below the video and it brings it up. Or “control-click” will open it into a new window.


https://i.imgur.com/Zfflwjo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

As for the 3rd video in the OP, the YouTuber provides the original in the summary.





Not my original video, though I did the enhancements. I stabilized the image, then increased brightness and added frames together to reduce noise. Later, I sped it up so you can see the strange movement more easily. Here is the original video: https://youtu.be/1rlsIR34jO8

I may have shown the date wrong. It was posted on the 19th, but recorded on the 18th.



Original - UFO over the Pentagon, Washington DC, 2018 (1:14 minutes)
1rlsIR34jO8
Alex Dude
Published on Dec 19, 2018

I spotted this object from the Arlington cemetery on evening of December 18th. I think this is military guys testing some new weapon, stealth tech, etc. I do not believe in UFO, so stop writing me messages about UFO. This video is FREE for SHARE. Just leave a link to this video in the descriptioon of yours.

Ok ... I see, he was referencing a rather unrelated video that the OP just added that "seemed" to be similar to the one described in the woman's speech (as per the OPs description of that particular video). That in no way is proof that this was a hoax. Anyone can take a binary guess and be right 50% of the time; finding proof is something completely different.

RunningDeer
1st February 2019, 16:36
Ok ... I see, he was referencing a rather unrelated video that the OP just added that "seemed" to be similar to the one described in the woman's speech (as per the OPs description of that particular video). That in no way is proof that this was a hoax. Anyone can take a binary guess and be right 50% of the time; finding proof is something completely different.

I agree, Mike. My post was mainly to clear up a couple of points that ripple didn't address when asked, and to show a simple way to check the date on the video.