David Paulides on Bigfoot, Wild Men and Giants

[Bill Ryan]

Dave Paulides on Coast to Coast AM, 30 Sept 2018, with George Knapp. HIGHLY recommended, as always.


http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_21_Oct_2018_Hour_1.mp3
http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_21_Oct_2018_Hour_2.mp3

It's titled Bigfoot, Wild Men and Giants. (Maybe, says Paulides, all the same thing.)

The summary from https://coasttocoastam.com/show/2018/10/21:



Bigfoot, Wild Men and Giants

After a nine-year hiatus from his last Bigfoot book, David Paulides has returned to the arena with Bigfoot Wild Men and Giants. This 376-page tabletop book of news articles describing hairy bipeds and giant skeletons that were located in mounds and graves.

Mr. Paulides has committed himself to the work associated with his books, Missing 411. While searching newspaper archives for missing people, he stumbled across articles of wild men and giants. The description of the wild men and women match that of bigfoot today. In a remarkable coincidence, there are many skeletons of giants found in the same time parameters as the wild men. Are the two topics related? He started accumulating articles until he had stories that covered over 200 years.

The book has descriptions of the biped from 1680-1922, all containing the original newspaper articles, location, and date. This is the perfect book to browse for five minutes or dedicate the next five days. If you are a longtime pessimist to the bigfoot topic or a seasoned researcher, Bigfoot Wildmen and Giants will leave a lasting impact to the reality of hairy giants.

[Justplain]

Lloyd Pye reached similar conclusions a while back.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8

[Cardillac]

yes, @Bill and @Justplain and all readers-

just read Lloyd Pye's books plus listen to the many, many David Paulides interviews (let alone read his books!)-

supposedly Paulides has released an 8th book about this topic; but his books are only available (so far) thru his website which will only accept payment via a North American payment system (bank check, cashier's cheque, etc.) but will not accept a universaly accepted Master Card (like mine) or Visa, etc. which I find very frustrating-

I'm a tremendous fan of Paulides; just wish I could order his books from Germany-

Larry

[Justplain]

An interesting distinction between sasquatch and the giants that are found, is that sasquatch have hair all over their bodies, usually dark brown, and the giants were considered to be red haired and the males bearded. The elongated skulls of paracus Peru are red-haired and of bigger stature than the regular populace, though not considered 'giants'. Therefore, the evidence seems to point to the fact that sasquatch are a different creature than the ancient giants.

Some speculate that the giants of ancient lore are hybrids of denisovan humans, believed to be giants, and homo sapiens. Loyd Pye speculated that sasquatch were just the natural evolutionary hominid after the great apes, and that we homo sapiens were a genetic experiment done by off worlders (the evidence he used for this was that we have fewer chromosones than great apes).

Interesting stuff.

[Tyy1907]

Paulides is back on the bigfoot bandwagon well well.

I've got both his other bigfoot books which are excellent. They were fairly inexpensive but to order one of his 411 books my god. Crazy expensive to get in Canada for some reason. The boom is 24.99 but $40 for shipping! $65 for one book in American dollars

[CurEus]

In his previous interviews he is very circumspect about what he believes to be the cause of disappearances...and I have listened to nearly every interview he has given.

it "seems" that there may be some trans dimensional influence at play and that there "may" be several forms of creatures engaging in this activity.
Regular sasquatch do not seem to care to interact much but some are territorial......but it seems like there is another variety that is a bit more ominous in its intentions.....in one interview he related a story of a man who seemed to "phase" into another dimension and was stalked by an entity (seemingly human-ish) that was full of malice and truly evil intent......THAT scared me!

As with Sasquatch the dog-men seems to present in 2 ways.....basic and shy dog-man and some truly nefarious shadow spawn version.....they will fight one another....and the shadowspawn scare "regular" Sasquatch ( or so I have heard). Reminds me a bit of the Skinwalker ranch "wolves".....seriously if something "scares" a 700lb 9 ft tall sack of furious primate muscles.........scares me too!

RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

And now Paulides has determined that many missing persons cases in cities......are part of these events. They generally include water......and in rural areas, near granite formations and/or waterways. and for some reason they take off people's shoes......well guess what.........? we really cannot go very far without shoes. Seems bizarre but it makes some "sense".......to an extent. Search and rescue dogs cannot find the "scent" of missing people and some REFUSE to track when they do find a scent.......that is not comforting! and people who are later found ( often children) are dozens of KM from where they were "lost" ............3 year olds cannot climb mountains or walk 10 KM......in a day.

Paulides advice is simple.........carry a gun!
I live in Canada so that is not an option!
Not that I would want one anyway....

A few decades ago I was living in the UK ( Oxford) and walking home from a pub night.......I KNEW something was following/stalking me and had taken up residence in a small copse of trees in the parklands ahead.....what may seem bizarre and probably unintelligible but I am convinced some "elemental force" was unimpressed with the entity and they had a raging fight....in the trees, in the dark......this was not raccoons or cats.......like literally uprooted and knocked over a tree and shredded bushes!

The distinct impression I had was one was of "air and earth" and the other was of "darkness"......I cannot say I was being "protected"......and I feel that the sprite or whatever just really didn't like the dark thing. I did not have the impression that it was an angel ........much more "primal" than that in my estimation......

I have never been so scared in my life!

I am not an "experiencer" I have never seen an UFOs, Aliens, or Angels or Monkey People.......and I don't think I want to!
There is IMHO a darkness in this world..........and we really do not have much of a defense against it....and THAT is why I find Paulides work so disturbing!

Maybe the "nice" sasquatch are keeping us safe in a way....? They do seem to be more "attuned" to things than we are.....

[chris_walker]

yes, @Bill and @Justplain and all readers-

just read Lloyd Pye's books plus listen to the many, many David Paulides interviews (let alone read his books!)-

supposedly Paulides has released an 8th book about this topic; but his books are only available (so far) thru his website which will only accept payment via a North American payment system (bank check, cashier's cheque, etc.) but will not accept a universaly accepted Master Card (like mine) or Visa, etc. which I find very frustrating-

I'm a tremendous fan of Paulides; just wish I could order his books from Germany-

LarryWell done Mr Paulides! He's striking a blow against the slavery of the cashless society. I will have to listen to his interview. I have come across his work on TV and it is compelling.

[eagle0027]

I walk nearly daily at least 5 on logging roads in the pacific n.w.
Today at about 400 yd distance out through the trees there was twice a sound like someone/thing hiting a tree with a stick.I was tempted to do same BUT then thought.....careful what you screw with.I didnt have any feeling of malintent though.
In the last few months i recall some info(and cant now remember where) that the first night vision goggles used by gunners in choppers in vietnam had them shooting wildly at things in the air only visible through them.Apperently optics or whatever were changed soon after.
If anyone here can remember that article or source of info ,it may be a way as well to view invisible to us ufos.
Ed

[chrifri]

Clif High talked in one of his interviews about his fathers experience in Vietnam and about the gunners shooting wildly at things not visible without these googles. Apparently, what they saw scared them to death

[Truglivartna]

I'd like to say I'm a "fan" of David Paulides, but ever since becoming familiar with his work, it seems to me he has failed enormously in one very important area.....and no-one else seems to have picked up on it either. That area is -- to me -- the unquestionable art and science of remote viewing. Were it my child missing, I would first -- and without a moments hesitation -- have hired someone like Daz Smith or Dick Algire at whatever price they demanded. I would have at least two of the best remote viewing opinions I could hire. And I would want the answer no matter how troubling it might be. Only the real truth would set me and my child free.....even if only in a figurative sense.

It irks me no small amount that David goes to such great detail -- and in such a professional manner -- to search out the tiniest detail of each tragedy without first thinking of today's remote viewers -- whose track records are quite impeccable. I have sent David several emails over the past year or two asking him why he hasn't pursued remote viewing. I get no reply from him. I'm sure he is aware of remote viewing.

Sooooooo, I have to ask myself WHY the silence and the deliberate avoidance of what small or large chance of truth we have available to us. I think the answer is probably more troubling and deeply disturbing for most people to know about than no answer at all.

Still, were it my child's life that was at stake, I would consider my own life to be at stake in attempting to end these travesties or make the dangers known far and wide so as to take whatever protective measures might be available to us as third-dimensional fodder in order to minimize such a thing happening to someone else.

For what it's worth.....

Kit Cain

[CurEus]

Dogman and Bigfoot encounters........apparently Dog-man despises colognes and perfumes. Especially those containing musks.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnRxX-qCUtY
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[Bill Ryan]

I'd like to say I'm a "fan" of David Paulides, but ever since becoming familiar with his work, it seems to me he has failed enormously in one very important area.....and no-one else seems to have picked up on it either. That area is -- to me -- the unquestionable art and science of remote viewing. Were it my child missing, I would first -- and without a moments hesitation -- have hired someone like Daz Smith or Dick Algire at whatever price they demanded. I would have at least two of the best remote viewing opinions I could hire. And I would want the answer no matter how troubling it might be. Only the real truth would set me and my child free.....even if only in a figurative sense.

It irks me no small amount that David goes to such great detail -- and in such a professional manner -- to search out the tiniest detail of each tragedy without first thinking of today's remote viewers -- whose track records are quite impeccable. I have sent David several emails over the past year or two asking him why he hasn't pursued remote viewing. I get no reply from him. I'm sure he is aware of remote viewing.

Sooooooo, I have to ask myself WHY the silence and the deliberate avoidance of what small or large chance of truth we have available to us. I think the answer is probably more troubling and deeply disturbing for most people to know about than no answer at all.

Still, were it my child's life that was at stake, I would consider my own life to be at stake in attempting to end these travesties or make the dangers known far and wide so as to take whatever protective measures might be available to us as third-dimensional fodder in order to minimize such a thing happening to someone else.

For what it's worth.....

Kit Cain

That's an excellent question that Paulides is often asked in interviews, and each time he explains that the remote viewers have just never responded to his requests for help or support. It's like they just don't want to get involved.

I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that he might have stated this once again in one of two his most recently posted interviews, with George Knapp on Coast to Coast. I do seem to remember hearing it again recently. If I come across it, I'll post the timestamp.

30 Sept, 2018:


http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_30_Sept_2018_Hour_1.mp3
http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_30_Sept_2018_Hour_2.mp3
http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_30_Sept_2018_Hour_3.mp3
http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_30_Sept_2018_Hour_4.mp3

21 Oct, 2018:


http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_21_Oct_2018_Hour_1.mp3
http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_21_Oct_2018_Hour_2.mp3

[DNA]

I'd like to say I'm a "fan" of David Paulides, but ever since becoming familiar with his work, it seems to me he has failed enormously in one very important area.....and no-one else seems to have picked up on it either. That area is -- to me -- the unquestionable art and science of remote viewing. Were it my child missing, I would first -- and without a moments hesitation -- have hired someone like Daz Smith or Dick Algire at whatever price they demanded. I would have at least two of the best remote viewing opinions I could hire. And I would want the answer no matter how troubling it might be. Only the real truth would set me and my child free.....even if only in a figurative sense.

It irks me no small amount that David goes to such great detail -- and in such a professional manner -- to search out the tiniest detail of each tragedy without first thinking of today's remote viewers -- whose track records are quite impeccable. I have sent David several emails over the past year or two asking him why he hasn't pursued remote viewing. I get no reply from him. I'm sure he is aware of remote viewing.

Sooooooo, I have to ask myself WHY the silence and the deliberate avoidance of what small or large chance of truth we have available to us. I think the answer is probably more troubling and deeply disturbing for most people to know about than no answer at all.

Still, were it my child's life that was at stake, I would consider my own life to be at stake in attempting to end these travesties or make the dangers known far and wide so as to take whatever protective measures might be available to us as third-dimensional fodder in order to minimize such a thing happening to someone else.

For what it's worth.....

Kit Cain
For what it is worth David Paulides had no part in the actual investigations he writes about in his books. Paulides is writing about these cases long after they have occurred, in some cases we are talking like fifty and a hundred years after they have occurred. Paulides has stated that he has contacted remote viewers who seem interested in pursuing a case at first, but soon the issue of money comes up and Paulides either does not want to spend money on having a case long closed remote viewed or it is an integrity thing and he feels spending a certain amount of coin with no guarantee anything is going to happen is a bad idea.In either case the remote viewer is not taking on a role of someone who can save anybody, he is taking on the role of someone who can clarify what happened to someone who is already long gone.

[Bill Ryan]

That's an excellent question that Paulides is often asked in interviews, and each time he explains that the remote viewers have just never responded to his requests for help or support. It's like they just don't want to get involved.

I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that he might have stated this once again in one of two his most recently posted interviews, with George Knapp on Coast to Coast. I do seem to remember hearing it again recently. If I come across it, I'll post the timestamp.

Yes, here. 16:17 in this C2C second hour of the September interview:


http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_30_Sept_2018_Hour_2.mp3

[mgray]

That's an excellent question that Paulides is often asked in interviews, and each time he explains that the remote viewers have just never responded to his requests for help or support. It's like they just don't want to get involved.

I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that he might have stated this once again in one of two his most recently posted interviews, with George Knapp on Coast to Coast. I do seem to remember hearing it again recently. If I come across it, I'll post the timestamp.

Yes, here. 16:17 in this C2C second hour of the September interview:


http://avalonlibrary.net/David_Paulides_Coast_to_Coast_30_Sept_2018_Hour_2.mp3


Paulides also said in an older interview that one RVer while unsuccessfully attempting to provide answers for a missing teen also shook down parents for more cash for a better reading.

The experience turned him off to the whole field.

[Chip]

I've always thought that incorporating drones equipped with sophisticated cameras including IR would be a good tool for the search but in hour 2 George takes a caller with that very question...Why hasn't anyone used drones in this search?

DP responds that there have been drones used without any useful results and states drones are not allowed in National Parks.

I'm still in the mindset that incorporating drones in areas known for sightings outside of National Park boundaries would be a good tool by researchers.

[najara12000]

Todd Standing (Sylvanic Bigfoot) has stated that was his intention to use them but they don't work because BG is too sophisticated.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCod70L-NeDx9WgW85jkXpaw

[Spellbound]

Hot off the press...

Edit - George Knapp starts talking about Squatch with Paulides at 7:35


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nruVAZKv_7U

Dave - Toronto

[CurEus]

Look at who is researching this very same subject this week!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXEFDPNyPXg

[CurEus]

@ Spellbound, this are fascinating developments....I always felt there was much more to Dr. Ketchum's work!

[Bill Ryan]

More from Dave Paulides on Bigfoot, Wild Men and Giants, on Coast to Coast AM, 24 June 2019:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_to_Coast_AM_audio/Coast%20To%20Coast%20AM%20with%20George%20Noory%20-%20David%20Paulides%2C%20Hour%202%20(24%20June%202019).mp3

[Spellbound]

There is a You Tube channel called HowToHunt that I like to venture to on occasion. The guy that runs it is an avid hunter and outdoors man who treks into the mountains of British Columbia and Alberta and reads letters that people sent him about their encounters with Squatch. This guy is good friends with Paulides (they have done presentations together and these are also available on You Tube). Anyways, this guy has eluded to (on a few occasions) that Paulides does not think Squatch is behind most of the 411 cases. I tend to agree here (though I am certainly open to Squatch being behind a small amount). I think something much more strange is at play with 411.

Dave - Toronto

[Bill Ryan]

A terrific personal presentation by Dave Paulides, just published (7 July 2021). Just fascinating. All about his own path of discovery, and his own history of researching Bigfoot, Wild Men and Giants. The first part of the video is about Skinwalker Ranch, so start in at 24:00. Highly recommended.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OchEE-t-bcw

[DNA]

jhxPF3ik80A

Okay, this is a testimonial written and sent to a YouTube channel.
It can't be real.
It's too good.
But even if it's fake, which it probably is, it's the type of fictitious work bleeding through truth.
And the tale is a damn good one.
One of the best I've ever heard.
Entertaining, exceedingly.

The story is this.
A retired Canadian police man or Mounty states he received a
Call concerning a naked child playing in a desolate clearing in the middle of a vast wooded Canadian forest.
The Mounty shows up and finds nothing, next day he gets a different call stating the same thing about a naked toddler playing in a clearing.
He finds the woman who called and she points to where the child ran off at her approach.
While tracking the child he finds a whole group of people, women and children being held hostage by four adult male Sasquatch.
The story goes that he retreats and calls a trusted confidante supervisor.
You then get the perspective of the army detachment sent into the Dennis Martin story in the David Paulides missing 411 books.
This joint US/Canadian detachment uses helicopters, snipers and satellite imagery to neutralize around five adult Sasquatch males and rescue the feral children and mostly feral women.
Story starts at 36:00 minutes in.




There is a You Tube channel called HowToHunt that I like to venture to on occasion. The guy that runs it is an avid hunter and outdoors man who treks into the mountains of British Columbia and Alberta and reads letters that people sent him about their encounters with Squatch. This guy is good friends with Paulides (they have done presentations together and these are also available on You Tube). Anyways, this guy has eluded to (on a few occasions) that Paulides does not think Squatch is behind most of the 411 cases. I tend to agree here (though I am certainly open to Squatch being behind a small amount). I think something much more strange is at play with 411.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave.
I love that channel.
I listen at least once a week. There was an episode I listened to where he played the audio of a woman investigator, she was interviewing a native man who had accidentally shot an arrow into a Sasquatch while hunting for bear.
He gave the most vivid account of his ordeal and the Sasquatch body description was amazing.
I would love for it to be included on Avalon but I just can't find it.
I don't remember the name of the native American or the lady interviewing him on howtohunt's channel.
But one of the absolute best I've ever heard and I straight up believed it.
Take care.

Post Edit ---------------------------------------


Okay Dave I think I found it. Bobby Short was the name of the interviewer. And I believe Paul Wilson is the name of the man being interviewed.

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[Spellbound]

Thank you so much, DNA!!

Dave - Toronto

[Bill Ryan]

A most interesting new video from Dave Paulides. The title is Bigfoot 101 Class 1 with David Paulides, but 'Class 1' is all about historical testimonies going back into previous centuries, and it's really about 'Wild Men' — as they were called then, but clearly what are known as Bigfoot now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKb7-JH1x2k

[Bill Ryan]

The sequel to my post above: this is Dave Paulides' Bigfoot 101 Class 2, continuing with more historical accounts of 'wild men' — and much more, including a detailed analysis of the famous 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q60mSMmhTZU), mention of the extraordinary 1924 incident in which Albert Ostman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Ostman) was kidnapped and held hostage by a Bigfoot family for 6 days, and a strong endorsement of the 1994 Paul Freeman film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFe1Ie9Gjf8).

(Side note: Paulides argues strongly that Bigfoot cannot possibly be (or descended from) a gigantopithecus. Not for this thread, but I do feel his reasoning for that conclusion is flawed, whatever Bigfoot actually is.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b13JZGY56iA

[DNA]

The sequel to my post above: this is Dave Paulides' Bigfoot 101 Class 2, continuing with more historical accounts of 'wild men' — and much more, including a detailed analysis of the famous Patterson-Gimlin film, and mention of the extraordinary 1924 incident in which Albert Ostman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Ostman) was kidnapped and held hostage by a Bigfoot family for 6 days.

(Side note: Paulides argues strongly that Bigfoot cannot possibly be (or descended from) a gigantopithecus. Not for this thread, but I do feel his reasoning for that conclusion is flawed, whatever Bigfoot actually is.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b13JZGY56iA

David Paulides found the investors to pony up a quarter of a million dollars to do a full genome based on samples collected meticulously by the can am project.
David being a former police detective knew a forensic specialist in hair identification. Apparently this expert claims that sasquatch hair is like no other hair on the planet.

That full genome was difficult to have done given the sensational nature of the request.
But,,, Mr. Paulides persevered and finally found some one to do the project.
A full genome.
Given the investment of time, money and determination it is no small wonder that David Paulides takes the findings of this research seriously.

The findings indicate that sasquatch is a fifteen thousand year old hybrid. A chimera, half human and half something else, the something else simply wasn't in the genome records.

This most assuredly points to it's creation coming from technological sophistication.
Aliens? Atlantis? Annunaki?
The creator is unknown but the results are hard to argue with.
Sasquatch is a lab created species and a mere fifteen thousand years old, much to young to be gigantapithicus.

[Bill Ryan]

Sasquatch is a lab created species and a mere fifteen thousand years old, much to young to be gigantapithicus.Yes, all fully agreed. :highfive:

My only point was that gigantopithecus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus) (an apparently extinct giant ape, a few bones found in China) is dated to have lived between 2 million and 350,000 years ago.

If it had survived, and not actually become extinct at all, it could well have evolved a very great deal in those 350,000 years until now (just as humans evolved significantly in that same period) — and, if it mated with humans (or WAS mated with humans), might account for what we see today. I'm not at all convinced by that, and I'm not claiming it! But I was just pointing out that there were some fine details in the logic that Paulides seemed to me to skip past or maybe might simply not have thought of.

:focus:

[Michel Leclerc]

Sasquatch is a lab created species and a mere fifteen thousand years old, much to young to be gigantapithicus.Yes, all fully agreed. :highfive:

My only point was that gigantopithecus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus) (an apparently extinct giant ape, a few bones found in China) is dated to have lived between 2 million and 350,000 years ago.

If it had survived, and not actually become extinct at all, it could well have evolved a very great deal in those 350,000 years until now (just as humans evolved significantly in that same period) — and, if it mated with humans (or WAS mated with humans), might account for what we see today. I'm not at all convinced by that, and I'm not claiming it! But I was just pointing out that there were some details in the logic that Paulides seemed to be to skip past or maybe just not have thought of.

:focus:

In addition to that, Bill: there are easily a dozen or more "cryptid" "giant ape"-like hominids all over the world, in the Central Asian area (from the Himalaya up to North Siberia) four different species, in North America at least three..: ample proof of niche survival and/or the possibility of inter-species mating and/or genetic tinkering by any more advanced member of the group on any of the less advanced.

DNA, while the possibility of "lab creation" should be considered and studied, what makes you so adamant about it being the case for the Sasquatch?

[Michel Leclerc]

Well, before rushing to posting, I’ll try and do my homework better the next time, DNA, Bill. Time to go through “The Journey’ receptively and slowly.

[DNA]

Hi Micheal

I'm a simple kind of guy looking for simple answers that answer multiple questions.
I had nothing to do with David Paulides hard work but I believe the results.
Billy Meier predicted when and how Atlantis was destroyed being an asteroid impact some 12,000 years ago.
Billy Meier's forty year old position was then agreed upon more recently by scientists pushing the younger dryass theory, this was academically frowned upon due to the absence of a sufficient impact Crater that proves such a theory.
Then two years ago they found this Crater under the Hyawatha glacier in Greenland.

For the record Billy Meier also said that sasquatch was a lab created chimera left over from the time of Atlantis.
For the record Edgar Cayce also stated that sasquatch was a chimera hybrid from Atlantis.

Interspecies sex can not create a chimera.
Otherwise they would be every where..
It can't happen. It is a biological impossibility even between such close relatives as humans and chimps..
Such a pairing had to be done in a lab.
You need the same level of intercellular manipulation as you need for cloning.

And then there are other situational problems..
I understand Washington State, Alaska and the Himalayan mountains sustaining wild populations of sasquatch but for the most part, on a world with forward looking infrared radar armed helicopters I just don't see how a breeding population could stay hidden.

I'm from Arizona. I lived most of my life there.
I've heard probably over a hundred sasquatch stories there from the mouths of first and second hand experiencers.

Stories you will never read on line.
I believe the greater portion to be true.
I've been all through the forest of the Mogollon rim and it's just not big enough to support this kind of breeding self sustaining population without capture and or exposure.
Sasquatch are in Arizona, but they shouldn't be without exposure and capture.

Furthermore ten percent or more of those stories have a UFO connection involved with it.
If you're going to believe the sasquatch aspect then you have to take the UFO aspect seriously as well.

There are also several skinwslker ranch type places located on the Mogollon rim. What appear to be portal zones if you will. This requires another aspect to the discussion.

I don't think one single answer will come forward to answer and cover all bases.

I think the answers will be weird.
And my least likely pet theory would be all of the sasquatch sightings are the result of free living self sustaining populations living independently through self determination.

Also as a last caveat to staying on topic let me say that the chimera aspect gives credence to why David Paulides includes wild men in the topic of his book.
As Paulides took a forensic artist with him to interview truly close encounter reports in the northern California areas where the Patterson gimlin film was done, where there are more sightings now than anywhere else in the world, the drawings taken by the forensic artist always depicted sasquatch with a very human face and nose.

Nothing primate about it what so ever.
Rather than a primate one would be more inclined to call Sasquatch a wild man, especially back before the media painted a primate type picture.
This also helps support the chimera findings as well.

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you DNA. This is a wide collection of aspects of the "wild men" phenomenon. For your information and as an anecdote: I first delved a little deeper into the subject when reading the French original of the following book:

https://www.amazon.com/Neanderthal-Strange-Saga-Minnesota-Iceman/dp/1938398610/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1PEIYNT1K66G5&keywords=%22Bernard+Heuvelmans%22&qid=1666654905&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjU0IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sprefix=bernard+heuvelmans+%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C199&sr=1-4

which is "L'Homme de Néandertal est toujours vivant" by the Belgian cryptozoologist Bernard Heuvelmans. I was quite moved by Paulides’ reference to forensic artists because Heuvelmans had also requested the help of a forensic draughtsman, I think to try and draw the “Iceman” through the ice encasing of his body. As for the "wild man” designation which Paulides prefers and you also seem to prefer – it is reflected by the fact that Heuvelmans in the 80s thought that the "Iceman" might be a Neanderthal man.

I read all stories about our mighty cousins (and aren’t there many!) with the greatest interest, especially from those people who take “inter-species” contact very seriously and share how it transformed them. Elsewhere on PA I contended that all communication (also human verbal communication) is telepathic in nature; so it seems logical to think that whenever we "sight" them (probably after they had “seen” us already) communication has already been initiated.

Now I’ll read Paulides’ "Journey”.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's Bigfoot 101, Class 3. Dave Paulides continues to present historical accounts (and very interesting they are, too), pointing out that Bigfoot/Sasquatch is always referred to a 'wild man' and never some kind of animal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIJZ9gtQpS0

[Bill Ryan]

Bigfoot 101, Class 4. Dave Paulides presents more historical accounts. (I've been following the subject for years, but I was totally unaware there were so many reports from the 1800s and early 1900s, and in so much credible detail.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx-Q3kOJM0U

[Alecs]

David Paulides continues his "Level 101" discussion of Bigfoot in Class 5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVuK5hJPJ8

[Bill Ryan]

David Paulides continues his "Level 101" discussion of Bigfoot in Class 5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVuK5hJPJ8In Class 5 above (and also part of Class 4), Paulides discusses footprints, and occasional footprint hoaxes.

I just emailed him this image, from John Napier's excellent 1973 book Bigfoot (https://amazon.com/Bigfoot-John-Napier/dp/B000V8YUS4). It shows the fairly well-known prints found in 1969 at Bossburg, WA. The left foot clearly shows a 'club-foot' deformity.

This Sasquatch was a cripple. No hoaxer would ever have thought of hoaxing that. :)

Napier, who was an academic anthropologist, wrote: (p.104, my emphasis added)
Club-foot usually occurs as a congenital abnormality, but it may also develop as the result of severe injury, or of damage to the nerves controlling the muscles of the foot. To me, the deformity strongly suggests that injury during life was responsible. A true, untreated, congenital talipes-equino-varus usually results in a fixed flexion deformity of the ankle in which case only the forepart of the foot and toes touch the ground in normal standing. In these circumstances the heel impression would be absent or poorly defined; but in fact the heel indentation of the Sasquatch is strongly defined. I conclude that the deformity was the result of a crushing injury to the foot in early childhood.

https://projectavalon.net/Bossburg_clubfoot_Bigfoot_footprint_sm.jpg

(slightly larger image here: https://projectavalon.net/Bossburg_clubfoot_Bigfoot_footprint.jpg)

[Bill Ryan]

Time to catch up! Class 5 is above, but since then there's been


Class 6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZqT2uHbAJs)
Class 7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SinrT11l0mA)
Class 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbPrQIX5rg)
Class 9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KQSmOvlzo)
Class 10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQOBQaz3Zw)

And here's Class 11, just published, where he gets to analyzing the DNA, and the work of Dr Melba Ketchum. :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQOBQaz3Zw