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AriG
13th January 2019, 20:06
On January 6th at 4:48 pm at our farm, my husband captured the attached footage on his DJI Mavic Air Drone. It is definitely a UFO (true definition, not referring to Aliens necessarily)
Our farmland terminates on a ridge. It is hilly and windy here. This particular day happened to be perfectly still so he (husband) wanted to take advantage and get some drone footage of our property. We have cropped identifiers such as our barndo, which would be slightly right to the footage (and because we are in the middle of some huge messy projects that don’t look very pretty from the air). The drone is hovering facing E/SE. This was taken at 4:48 pm. This object was filmed at 30 frames per second and the object is only visible in six frames. The object is on the screen for less than half of one second. Perhaps someone more proficient in math that I can ascertain the object’s speed? Whatever it is? It was ridiculously fast. Just eyeballing it, it appears to be flying in excess of 200 mph? Or not. Not sure. My husband did not notice this object on the controller as he was at least 400 feet from the airborne drone using a small controller. The audio was on and this object made no noise.
Before wasting anyone’s time here, I wanted to make sure that there is no other explanation for this. I have searched for drones capable of this and the only thing that comes close in resemblance is a paper airplane drone. But it would appear that those drones are not capable of high speed flight. I googled the fastest drone which is reported to be less than 200 mph and they did not resemble the object at all.
My husband believes that he observed this twice when he was out using his drone (peripheral vision).
I asked him why he didn’t mention it and he said that he wasn’t sure it was anything at the time, but when he did observe it, it was flying more slowly over a tree line at the end of a plateau that overlooks a creek behind our barndo. He only saw it for a second and assumed it was a piece of debris.
I even did research to determine whether this could be some camera effect with this particular drone. Couldn’t find anything, but I did find some Youtube video of something similar in mid Wales wherein it was attributed to Aliens (not willing to go there yet). Also looked at the ‘Drones for Dummies’ webpage to see if this could occur with Radio frequency, etc. There was an interesting drawing that illustrated the lift that was very geometric, but nothing that could explain this.
Any opinions appreciated. The fact that this has occurred more than once seems to suggest that it is definitely related to drone use (although husband contends that he doesn’t go around looking up unless he is using the drone).
Thanks for your time in reading!
Ok, new update. Apparently, this platform does not support MP4, so I am sending a photo instead. What a shame! If anyone can figure out how to get this one second video loaded, please let me know. Thanks!39706
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 00:24
If anyone can figure out how to get this one second video loaded, please let me know.
Done:
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG.mp4
It's a small white object, moving super-fast. It first appears at the top of the screen at 0:01.50, and disappears off the bottom of the screen 1/5 of a second later at 0:01.71. (The entire video is 0:02.16 long.)
In order to see it at all, you have to step through the 2 second video frame by frame.
It doesn't appear to be an artifact, as its distinct 3D shape (see below) and speed are consistent.
Here are enlarged (unenhanced) screenshots from the last three frames it was on the screen:
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_3.jpg
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_2.jpg
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_1.jpg
And here are those same images, now enhanced.
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_3_enhanced.jpg
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_2_enhanced.jpg
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_1_enhanced.jpg
And in those (specially the first), you can clearly make out the shape. The cross-section looks like someone's very rough white cardboard model of Darth Vader's shuttle craft in Star Wars. :)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/a/af/Shuttle-CHRON.jpg
My guess of the distance it traveled in that 1/5 of a second is about 300 ft. (@Ari, maybe you could measure it on the ground, even via Google Earth or Google maps?)
That'd mean that it was traveling at 1500 ft/second, which is about 1000 mph. Even if the distance was only 100 ft (and I'm sure it's not), it'd be going at about 350 mph.
What that means is that it's NOT an object blown by the wind, like a large paper bag. (Besides, you said it was a particularly still day.)
Very interesting, for sure. :sun:
AriG
14th January 2019, 00:51
Thank you so much Bill! I couldn’t help but notice that the top “fin”, for lacking better description, appears to be semi-transparent. I’ll try to figure out what distance it traveled from where it appears in the frame, but I’ll have to go to another farm to get that info. It started quite far away. Again thank you! Little bit freaked out about it to be honest. Hubby didn’t notice this until yesterday when he was loading another video.
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 01:01
I couldn’t help but notice that the top “fin”, for lacking better description, appears to be semi-transparent.
Yes... all three 'fins' might be equally semi-transparent, actually, as when we look to the left of the 'top fin', we're actually seeing the two of them together, one behind the other (most of the way). Combined, that'd make them look more opaque.
Sadieblue
14th January 2019, 02:04
Very interesting, and the object was moving very fast.
I had to replay it over several times, but it does look like some sort
of craft (metallic) to me.
AriG
14th January 2019, 02:07
We have estimated (from our original clip that shows our barndo - 50 feet long) that the ground distance is 500-550 feet from where the object appears in the clip to where it leaves the clip. Yikes! And without knowing how far from the camera the object was (because cache map info was off) - we can only estimate, based upon other identifiers in the shot (and this is a rough guess) the object seems to be around 18"-24" long, assuming that it is just above the electrical lines. Husband is going to send the drone back up tomorrow with more advanced settings to confirm.
DeDukshyn
14th January 2019, 02:35
I got no potentially practical explanation for that, It sure doesn't look like an insect or a bird ... interesting.
AriG
14th January 2019, 04:14
So... we’re definitely freaking out here now. We’ve gone back through footage dating back to October (drone was purchased as a 50th birthday gift for husband). So far, there are three more incidents recorded identical to the first. In one video, there are two of these objects appearing in opposite directions simultaneously. We’re trying to get good clean clips. Some of our footage is a little fuzzy. Will email to Bill when finished. It would appear that these things are everywhere. We share a property line with an old church and graveyard dating to the late 1700s. Could this be something more supernatural in nature? Probably not. Appears mechanical (ish). We’ve also recorded footage in the city- no ufos in clips.
Denise/Dizi
14th January 2019, 04:38
I almost wonder if only one surface of the three seemingly solid sides is actually solid, the center piece, and the two sides merely arms holding blades that give the illusion that they're solid white? As it moves quickly it may look like a transparent sheet, or "Wing?" When Bill froze that last image it almost looked like a white drone that had four "Arms on each corner.. and a more solid upright stabilizing fin/body? I dunno but if you fould more this is very disturbing. Where was this taken? (State)?
AriG
14th January 2019, 05:29
[QUOTE=Diziblueyez;1269461]I almost wonder if only one surface of the three seemingly solid sides is actually solid, the center piece, and the two sides merely arms holding blades that give the illusion that they're solid white? As it moves quickly it may look like a transparent sheet, or "Wing?" When Bill froze that last image it almost looked like a white drone that had four "Arms on each corner.. and a more solid upright stabilizing fin/body? I dunno but if you fould more this is very disturbing. Where was this /QUOTE]
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AriG
14th January 2019, 05:38
I think I meant latitude. Lol. Getting sleepy but not able to sleep
Did You See Them
14th January 2019, 09:34
Sort of reminds me of the X-zylo toy or something larger operating on the same principal.
-GavWPxAAlY
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 15:09
We have estimated (from our original clip that shows our barndo - 50 feet long) that the ground distance is 500-550 feet from where the object appears in the clip to where it leaves the clip. Yikes!
Yikes indeed! :)
That's 2000—2500 feet per second, which is 1350—1700 mph. Which is Mach 1.75—2.25, or +/- twice the speed of sound.
AriG
14th January 2019, 18:35
Here is a marked up (badly) photograph from 10-21-18. I am going to email Bill two MP4 clips for upload.
Is there any way that these objects could be stray bullets?
http://projectavalon.net/AriG_UFO_10_21_18_markup_photo.jpg
* Note from Bill: this image is quite big, so right-clicking and viewing it independently will make it much larger.
AriG
14th January 2019, 19:16
Thank you Dennis! Actually, it looks like a Thank you to Bill (but I'll not suspend my thank you to Dennis anyway :))
I went ahead and created a rather pathetic Youtube channel. The unadulterated and difficult to view videos are there:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgNfezDrubOMsAH4JW8_XWA
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 21:41
I am going to email Bill two MP4 clips for upload.
Okay, here's one:
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_2.mp4
This one is from a totally different angle, further away, and it's 0:09.10 seconds long.
The white object is traveling from left to right and (for me) first seems to appear at 0:01.90 seconds, 2/3 the way down the video screen from the top, and a little to the left. It's against the trees to the right of the dirt road.
Then it shoots off in a straight line directly to the right, becoming more visible as it goes... I think because the thing is blurred and therefore slightly elongated as it's captured in each frame, and it appears to be accelerating. It's definitely covering more of the apparent distance in each frame, but there might be a distortion affect if the lens is slightly fish-eye.
That last frame in which it's visible is at 0:04.23. So in 2.33 seconds, it covers whatever this distance is. :)
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_2screenshot.gif
If the width of the dirt road is 10 feet, I'd estimate the trajectory as about 40x that, = 400 feet. (Might be 500... Ari will know.)
Assuming just 400, then this time it's 'only' traveling at 170 feet per second (its average speed, if it's accelerating), which is 115 mph. So this time, it was just moseying along. :)
AriG
14th January 2019, 22:14
475 feet. The gravel road is more like 8 feet (land here eats gravel). So does anyone have any theories?
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 22:43
So does anyone have any theories?
Not a bird. Not a bullet. Not a recreational drone or a model plane, or a loose kite or anything blown by the wind... way too fast for that.
Not a meteorological phenomenon. Not a camera artifact. Its shape is constant (i.e. it's rigid), and doesn't appear to be anything animate or living.
And it does seem to be accelerating in the second video, posted just above. That implies an inbuilt power source. The straight-line trajectory suggests intelligent direction. (Even more so if it turned round and came back!)
What that means is that it's a structured, intelligently designed device. It seems small (it'd be really useful to estimate its size), and I'd roughly guess it was about 2-3 feet long. If the width of the dirt road is 8 feet, it seems less than half that.
So it's not a piloted craft. The only remaining possibility is has to be a small drone of some kind, but a highly sophisticated one.
I'm just channeling Sherlock Holmes here, applying logic as best I can. Once you eliminate the impossible.... etc etc. :)
AriG
14th January 2019, 22:45
I have failed to thank you properly Bill, I really appreciate the work that you have put into this :)
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 22:51
Another observation: (But I'd welcome other views!)
In the second video posted above, where I described where and when in the video I could first see it personally, it really does just seem to appear suddenly at the start of its trajectory. (And from that point it does seem to start slowly, then speeds up in each frame that follows.)
So — either it's just arrived there (as if entering through a portal), or it was hiding in the trees before it set off on its straight-line path.
mir
14th January 2019, 22:51
What about the second object though? Bottom left, it appears to be accelerating, ascending from the forest and also changing direction to the left. They both appear about the same time
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Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 23:11
What about the second object though? Bottom left, it appears to be accelerating, ascending from the forest and also changing direction to the left. They both appear about the same time
Wow, I missed that. :facepalm: Yes, it appears in the trees at at 0:02.20, and shoots off to the bottom left in a straight line, disappearing out of view of the camera at 0:03.16.
Here's the trajectory of that one: Because it's heading generally towards the camera, it's harder to estimate the distance covered — which it does in 0:096 seconds.
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_2screenshot_2.gif
AriG
14th January 2019, 23:13
So it's not a piloted craft. The only remaining possibility is has to be a small drone of some kind, but a highly sophisticated one.
I'm just channeling Sherlock Holmes here, applying logic as best I can. Once you eliminate the impossible.... etc etc. :)
In your opinion Bill, does anyone on this planet have that kind of tech? Musk, black ops, etc? And why would either of them or aliens/multi-dimensionals be interested in whats going on here? I do have some adorable little goats who mimic human language, but that's about as exciting as it gets around here. ;) ( trying to keep a sense of humor about this honestly, its a little freaky) Unless... and this is a stretch - we have found some amazing fossils and imprints here. I have a fossilized imprint of a juvenile therapod here- we found it a few years ago. It literally is museum quality) - Maybe they're doing research.
AriG
14th January 2019, 23:17
What about the second object though? Bottom left, it appears to be accelerating, ascending from the forest and also changing direction to the left. They both appear about the same time
Wow, I missed that. :facepalm: Yes, it appears in the trees at at 0:02.20, and shoots off to the bottom left in a straight line, disappearing out of view of the camera at 0:03.16.
Here's the trajectory of that one: Because it's heading generally towards the camera, it's harder to estimate the distance covered — which it does in 0:096 seconds.
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_2screenshot_2.gif
I think the camera is about 200 feet from the perceived take off point.
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 23:19
Maybe they're doing research.
I'd think that anything doing 'research' would be moving slowly, or more slowly, covering an area methodically.
This is a very subjective view (and not necessary logical!), but it's almost as if they were disturbed, or somehow knew they were being filmed or observed, and then got the heck out of there FAST. :)
AriG
14th January 2019, 23:25
Maybe they're doing research.
I'd think that anything doing 'research' would be moving slowly, or more slowly, covering an area methodically.
This is a very subjective view (and not necessary logical!), but it's almost as if they were disturbed, or somehow knew they were being filmed or observed, and then got the heck out of there FAST. :)
No doubt. I am quite subjective about my privacy - lol - moved out here for a reason. But what do you think about my first question? Does anyone on Earth have that kind of technology? Thanks :)
mir
14th January 2019, 23:27
Maybe they're doing research.
I'd think that anything doing 'research' would be moving slowly, or more slowly, covering an area methodically.
This is a very subjective view (and not necessary logical!), but it's almost as if they were disturbed, or somehow knew they were being filmed or observed, and then got the heck out of there FAST. :)
it indeed looks like someone is fleeing the crime scene :)
AriG
14th January 2019, 23:30
Maybe they're doing research.
I'd think that anything doing 'research' would be moving slowly, or more slowly, covering an area methodically.
This is a very subjective view (and not necessary logical!), but it's almost as if they were disturbed, or somehow knew they were being filmed or observed, and then got the heck out of there FAST. :)
it indeed looks like someone is fleeing the crime scene :)
Wow Mir, that really makes me feel better! Thanks ;)
Bill Ryan
14th January 2019, 23:47
Maybe they're doing research.
I'd think that anything doing 'research' would be moving slowly, or more slowly, covering an area methodically.
This is a very subjective view (and not necessary logical!), but it's almost as if they were disturbed, or somehow knew they were being filmed or observed, and then got the heck out of there FAST. :)
it indeed looks like someone is fleeing the crime scene :)
Wow Mir, that really makes me feel better! Thanks ;)
:)
If I were in this situation, I'd be doing the following.
I'd pore over every bit of drone video that I had, frame by frame, to see what might have been there that I'd never noticed. (To examine these videos frame by frame, if you have an Apple Mac with QuickTime Player, you can easily nudge it forward or back frame by frame using the right and left arrows.)
I'd devote as much time as possible to getting MORE video, focusing on areas where they'd been spotted (on the videos) before.
If I had two drones, I'd use them both. That way, there's an opportunity to triangulate on a moving object to better establish its speed and size. (And where it appears from!)
I'd personally visit those areas in the trees where they first seemed to appear on the drone camera, to see if there was anything anomalous there (or if I felt anything anomalous which I couldn't see). If I had a dog, I'd take it with me to see if it started behaving unusually. And I'd have a camera with me, as well.
I'd try communicating telepathically. Can do no harm! Like — Who are you? Can I help you? What are you doing? Why are you on my land? Can you please show yourselves more openly? If not, why not?
I'd also be wondering: Why me, and why here? :)
It's likely to be one or the other. But I might be speculating that they seem more interested in the land than in the people (i.e. me!). That means either there's something in or on or under the land that's interesting, that they happen to have a base there, or that there happens to be an access point there (like a portal) which just happens to be in that place.
AriG
15th January 2019, 00:04
macbook pro - check
dog - check and our two huge Great Pyrenees LGD dogs have been freaking out for no apparent reason lately.
clip check in process
no objects recorded in sky today :)
secondary drone - yes, but its a cheapie. Will give it a try.
telepathy - absolutely
and after reading your response to husband, he states, and I quote " Oh Great! So we've gone and bought ourselves a ****ing Alien nest - we may want to cancel our plans to build (the timber frame lodge that we are starting in the Spring). Maybe an underground bunker is more fitting!"
I really seriously do appreciate all the time, help and feedback Bill. This is not my first encounter with observing a craft/ufo, but it certainly is a lot more intimate than before. A bit daunting.
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2019, 00:23
Is everything with a UFO shot with the same camera, or have you captured the same object on another (not identical) camera? I'm thinking of ruling out a reflection fragment.
{edit: never mind. I think that the shapes remain too consistent to be reflection fragments.}
AriG
15th January 2019, 00:58
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Is everything with a UFO shot with the same camera, or have you captured the same object on another (not identical) camera? I'm thinking of ruling out a reflection fragment.
Same camera. The January video was shot in 4K and the October was shot in 1080p. He was just learning the mavic drone in October so footage is not so great.
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2019, 02:32
I downloaded these and did frame-by-frame and, I'd say you've got some very interesting UFO footage there.
Satori
15th January 2019, 03:02
Good catch. There are definitely two separate and what appear to be very similar, if not identical, objects accelerating and ascending very fast. One going to the left and one to the right, which disappears from view just after the object to the left disappears from view.
This reminds me very much of a similar object previously caught on video by a drone in a very similar looking farmland, wooded area. I've seen that other video posted on this forum if I'm not mistaken.
Bill Ryan
15th January 2019, 10:09
I downloaded these and did frame-by-frame and, I'd say you've got some very interesting UFO footage there.
I do agree! :Party:
@Ari, a couple of points:
On QuickTime Player, go to Window > Show Movie Inspector, and you can see the exact timestamp, to a fraction of a second, of each frame as it plays. (You may well know this, but some folks may not)
Dennis' question about using a different camera (or two drones in stereo!) is a good one, of course. It's VERY hard to explain this away as a camera artifact (I'd bet a lot of $$ that it's not), but to convince any skeptics a different camera capturing the same thing would lay that question utterly to rest.
Did You See Them
15th January 2019, 10:24
Sort of reminds me of the X-zylo toy or something larger operating on the same principal.
-GavWPxAAlY
MY BAD ! - Had the orientation wrong ( thought it was going left to right not up to down on the stills !
Very interesting capture and good advise from Bill.
So the dogs have been playing up recently as well !
Justplain
15th January 2019, 12:48
Could this be swamp gas? 😜
AriG
15th January 2019, 13:49
Could this be swamp gas? 😜
We did have over 70” of rainfall here in 2018 ;) ironically, I am thinking it has something to do with frogs. I’ll explain later when thoughts are better formed but so you all don’t think I am nuts, this area is pristine ecologically with many near extinct or once believed extinct species
AriG
15th January 2019, 13:55
I downloaded these and did frame-by-frame and, I'd say you've got some very interesting UFO footage there.
I do agree! :Party:
@Ari, a couple of points:
On QuickTime Player, go to Window > Show Movie Inspector, and you can see the exact timestamp, to a fraction of a second, of each frame as it plays. (You may well know this, but some folks may not)
Dennis' question about using a different camera (or two drones in stereo!) is a good one, of course. It's VERY hard to explain this away as a camera artifact (I'd bet a lot of $$ that it's not), but to convince any skeptics a different camera capturing the same thing would lay that question utterly to rest.
Thanks Bill. Husband is the techie and will probably end up getting Final Cut Pro. So I need to buy another drone. The other one we have was a toy that I bought him first to see how long it would take him to lose interest.
I need advice on what drone to buy at a reasonable price?? Anyone? Thanks :)
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2019, 17:26
I downloaded these and did frame-by-frame and, I'd say you've got some very interesting UFO footage there.
I do agree! :Party:
@Ari, a couple of points:
On QuickTime Player, go to Window > Show Movie Inspector, and you can see the exact timestamp, to a fraction of a second, of each frame as it plays. (You may well know this, but some folks may not)
Dennis' question about using a different camera (or two drones in stereo!) is a good one, of course. It's VERY hard to explain this away as a camera artifact (I'd bet a lot of $$ that it's not), but to convince any skeptics a different camera capturing the same thing would lay that question utterly to rest.
Thanks Bill. Husband is the techie and will probably end up getting Final Cut Pro. So I need to buy another drone. The other one we have was a toy that I bought him first to see how long it would take him to lose interest.
I need advice on what drone to buy at a reasonable price?? Anyone? Thanks :)
The footage your husband is getting is very good. The capture (at 4K) means you won't get any higher resolution by buying a better camera for the drone. A technically better camera may have a better lens ("faster glass" - lets more light through, or "better glass" - more refined optics, less image aberration), and/or it may have a better digital sensor (physically larger, better clarity, better color capture), and may have better in-camera processing. However, I think it might take a 'quantum leap' (and a big wallet) to have hardware that is going to get a noticeably better capture. Then again, it is also possible that by the time you get the next eye in the sky, the objects may no longer be near your property.
The video that shows 2 separate white objects moving in different directions while the drone was hovering pretty well destroys the notion of a reflection anomaly. Note that I believe there is a reflection anomaly in that 2nd film: it is orange-ish colored, and moves on screen - as the drone moves - from bottom to top direction. Start the video, visually go to the intersection of the power lines and look above that to see the orange reflection anomaly, and watch it move in sync with the camera/drone movement. The white moving objects have nothing in common with that.
Satori
15th January 2019, 17:46
If I did this right, this link includes the drone footage of the object I referred to in my post above. It is the second object, but the first is cool too. (I did not watch the entire video before posting this and there may be video of other objects in addition to the two I just mentioned.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk8Guy77EAQ
Add: There are only two objects depicted. The video focuses mostly on the first object. The narrator does not state where the video was taken. (If he did, I missed it.) I live in New Mexico and it looks to me like the video of the first object was taken in NM. I base this on the mountains (Sandia or Monzano near Kirtland AFB), the terrain (rolling and brown) and the vegetation (Chamissa, pinon shrubs/trees and brush.)
Builder
15th January 2019, 19:12
Assuming just 400, then this time it's 'only' traveling at 170 feet per second (its average speed, if it's accelerating), which is 115 mph. So this time, it was just moseying along. :)
Not impossible for a bird:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_by_flight_speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon
AriG
15th January 2019, 19:20
So your advice would be to not bother in buying another drone right now?
Also it is very grey and cold right now. They may be flying around and not be visible at all due to camera. Can’t help but wonder what would happen if more people in rural areas started sending drones up? This could be worldwide for all we know.
AriG
15th January 2019, 19:23
Assuming just 400, then this time it's 'only' traveling at 170 feet per second (its average speed, if it's accelerating), which is 115 mph. So this time, it was just moseying along. :)
Not impossible for a bird:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_by_flight_speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon
Take a look at the first video then compare it to the shape in the marked photo.
You would also see rhythmic movement and wings flapping were it a bird. There are no white transparent birds in Kentucky.
Billy
15th January 2019, 20:26
They appear to fly quite low and by your estimation only around 2ft in size, is that correct ? They have appeared more than one time, Would it possible to set up a couple of nature cameras up somewhere, or CCtv ?
Maybe someone is testing state of the art advanced technology drones :sherlock:
AriG
15th January 2019, 21:06
They appear to fly quite low and by your estimation only around 2ft in size, is that correct ? They have appeared more than one time, Would it possible to set up a couple of nature cameras up somewhere, or CCtv ?
Maybe someone is testing state of the art advanced technology drones :sherlock:
CC tv would be a greater investment than another drone and would provide a very narrow lens of observation and field cameras are only useful for finding out what animals are invading where and sometimes you can’t even tell a coyote from a deer.
On either suggestion you’d also see a lot of fluff- it would be no more reliable or believable than so many of the grainy saucer ships we have all come to know (and doubt). But thank you for the suggestion:)
mir
15th January 2019, 21:25
Assuming just 400, then this time it's 'only' traveling at 170 feet per second (its average speed, if it's accelerating), which is 115 mph. So this time, it was just moseying along. :)
Not impossible for a bird:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_by_flight_speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon
given the way it accelerates from the woods and the speed it flies by the drone, there is no known bird that could do that
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2019, 22:30
So your advice would be to not bother in buying another drone right now?
Also it is very grey and cold right now. They may be flying around and not be visible at all due to camera. Can’t help but wonder what would happen if more people in rural areas started sending drones up? This could be worldwide for all we know.
Nature photographers LOVE overcast days. Film and digital cameras work differently than the human eye. You can look at a vivid, bright yellow flower with your eyes on a sunny day, and see the correct color. (I know, "correct" involves the brain, and could be a discussion of its own.) On that same sunny day, a photographer has to fake what the clouds are doing (scattering the light) by placing an additional filter (neutral density) on the lens. Otherwise, the photo of the vivid yellow flower will be pale, washed-out light yellow/white. Studio photographers use a "soft box" to scatter the light.
Pros and cons:
A clear day will produce sharp (harsh) shadows, which would be good if the object is close enough to the ground or trees to cast a visible shadow. A clear day will create dramatic lens flares, when the sunlight directly hits the lens. A clear sunny day creates more opportunities for reflection artifacts - from light bouncing around in the camera and from the shiny exterior of the drone and the lens, reflecting out into the field of vision. A clear day will actually make for better (more real) colors in wider-framed landscape photos - the opposite of what happens when trying to take intimate close-ups. The camera is probably automatically adjusting its ISO setting, depending on available light. Lower ISO values (analogous to lower ASA values for film, in case anyone remembers film hahaha) produce sharper, less "grainy" images that are still crisp when enlarged, so that is another 'pro' for shooting in sunlight without overcast.
All that said though, the objects captured seem to me to be too far away from the lens for any fancier equipment or any better photography conditions to matter hardly at all.
For those that are studying the videos/stills: can anyone see any hint of the objects before they become obvious? They seem to just appear, then cruise. How about shadows from the objects, has anyone identified a shadow moving as well?
The one on the left especially seems to start out down in the trees, and looks like it goes under some branches - which eliminates the possibility that it is a very small object much closer to the camera lens (which can make an object appear to be moving much faster than it is.)
AriG
16th January 2019, 00:42
Thanks Dennis! I was just thinking that with dead grass and a white sky and white deciduous branches, that if our white objects flew against these, they would be more cloaked. They’d have to fly across one of the junipers to be seen?
AriG
16th January 2019, 02:36
Just found this and it gives very little information, and I have never heard of Skyfish, but could this be an explanation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRDUlRCMQE
Did You See Them
16th January 2019, 09:58
I need advice on what drone to buy at a reasonable price?? Anyone? Thanks :)
What price point are you look at ?
Bill Ryan
16th January 2019, 11:43
Just found this and it gives very little information, and I have never heard of Skyfish, but could this be an explanation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRDUlRCMQE
Yes, I thought about posting about this, too. They're also known as 'Roswell Rods' — another search term to use.
They move at super-high speed, and each of the several videos of them shows a very similar general shape. But they seem to be very small, unlike Ari's mysterious object.
As best I know, no-one has a single clue what they are, even after many years. They're so anomalous and 100% inexplicable that they've not really caught the attention of most UFO researchers. Some folks suspect they're something living, like alien insects (almost!), but that doesn't seem to apply to Ari's apparently very solid object that appears to hold its shape perfectly.
Putting all this together, I do suspect these are 'drones' of some kind: i.e. intelligently controlled (or intelligently self-directed) objects that are here on some purpose. The really interesting question is how many there are, as it'd be REALLY easy to miss them without quite-by-chance HD video capture. (And a note here: a regular security cam wouldn't have the resolution or frame rate to capture them at all.)
AriG
16th January 2019, 12:16
I need advice on what drone to buy at a reasonable price?? Anyone? Thanks :)
What price point are you look at ?
I guess the priority is the right tool for the right job. At the best price (within reason for a non professional). The mavic air plus extra batteries was around $1000 and was purchased as a special gift for husband joining the club (50)
Did You See Them
16th January 2019, 14:18
Just found this and it gives very little information, and I have never heard of Skyfish, but could this be an explanation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRDUlRCMQE
Yes, I thought about posting about this, too. They're also known as 'Roswell Rods' — another search term to use.
They move at super-high speed, and each of the several videos of them shows a very similar general shape. But they seem to be very small, unlike Ari's mysterious object.
As best I know, no-one has a single clue what they are, even after many years. They're so anomalous and 100% inexplicable that they've not really caught the attention of most UFO researchers. Some folks suspect they're something living, like alien insects (almost!), but that doesn't seem to apply to Ari's apparently very solid object that appears to hold its shape perfectly.
Putting all this together, I do suspect these are 'drones' of some kind: i.e. intelligently controlled (or intelligently self-directed) objects that are here on some purpose. The really interesting question is how many there are, as it'd be REALLY easy to miss them without quite-by-chance HD video capture. (And a note here: a regular security cam wouldn't have the resolution or frame rate to capture them at all.)
Interesting to also note that as per AriG's capture the "fins" also look "see through" !
Also makes me wonder if "Rods" are a modern take on the "fairies" of old.
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I need advice on what drone to buy at a reasonable price?? Anyone? Thanks :)
What price point are you look at ?
I guess the priority is the right tool for the right job. At the best price (within reason for a non professional). The mavic air plus extra batteries was around $1000 and was purchased as a special gift for husband joining the club (50)
AriG try looking through this batch of drones.
https://uavcoach.com/drone-with-camera/
AriG
16th January 2019, 15:12
Also makes me wonder if "Rods" are a modern take on the "fairies" of old.[COLOR="red"]
I can't help but wonder (navel gazing with morning coffee) this:
If we are co-creators of this realm and we have been working with elements that we can envisage (carbon and essential elements), so we create flora and fauna and once it takes on a life of its own and evolves and becomes part of the co-creation and then someone introduces the concept of electricity and we begin creating with that level of understanding, and it too creates anomalies, is it conceivable that the introduction of waves (as a concept, of course they've always been there) bestows upon that wave, an ability to join in co-creation and produce a new life form that is completely invisible to the naked eye (like a carbon atom)? And now we have better technology (drones) not unlike the first microscopes?
AriG
16th January 2019, 15:21
Also makes me wonder if "Rods" are a modern take on the "fairies" of old.[COLOR="red"]
I can't help but wonder (navel gazing with morning coffee) this:
If we are co-creators of this realm and we have been working with elements that we can envisage (carbon and essential elements), so we create flora and fauna and once it takes on a life of its own and evolves and becomes part of the co-creation and then someone introduces the concept of electricity and we begin creating with that level of understanding, and it too creates anomalies, is it conceivable that the introduction of waves (as a concept, of course they've always been there) and our manipulation of them, bestows upon that wave, an ability to join in co-creation and produce a new life form that is completely invisible to the naked eye (like a carbon atom)? And now we have better technology (drones) not unlike the first microscopes?
I just re-read this and its flawed thinking. Please accept the intent and not the analogies... I guess. :o
Dennis Leahy
16th January 2019, 15:38
I have seen a logical explanation for the "rods" (I don't remember them being called 'skyfish'.) They were explained as a self-generated artifact by the mechanical video camcorders of that era. There were (at one time) only a couple of companies worldwide making the mechanical (magnetic tape) recording and playback mechanism (Matsush!ta or maybe Panasonic, IIRC), so all the recorder brands (but Sony) had the same issue. The recording/playback head sensor elements were arranged in a helix shape, a helical array. I think I remember that the issue (creating video artifacts) was repeatable, under specific bright light conditions, so (it was guessed) that's all it was.
AriG's footage was not taken with a mechanical camcorder with the old helical heads. All modern equipment uses a flat, non-moving sensor.
Some of the 'rods' and 'snowflakes' movements in the above video are not easily explained as video artifacts, but mixed in there are a number of photos shot directly towards the sun showing a "rod" (such as the rainbow rods) that are certainly just reflection artifacts. To me, this just confuses the issue, because some of them have fins and deserve study after dismissing the obvious video artifact shots.
Dennis Leahy
16th January 2019, 16:12
I'm not a UFO hunter/researcher. I guess that once I characterized their pilots as just "watchers" that have never interacted with me and never would have reason to, I just don't pay much attention. I'm intrigued by stories told by experiencers, and I will take a quick look at the latest and greatest UFO video as they come out, but not any research at all. I mention all this because I actually did sit down and go through AriG's videos, frame-by-frame. Once I saw the moving objects, I wanted to satisfy my mind as to the truth (and honestly, I expected to nail them as video artifacts.) But, they are not.
So, pardon this non-UFO buff, clumsily researching a UFO video.
The object on the right starts over, or on the edge of, the road - not in the woods. The early part of the footage is too bright to see where either of the white objects originated. Once the drone slightly rotates down (like putting your hand on your forehead like a salute, to block light) the video darkens and the video contrast is then high enough to see them. The reason I think it is significant that the object on the right does not start in the woods is eliminating the possibility that some human in the woods shot some projectile.
The other thing I think is significant is that the one on the right starts out by going under some of the tree branches, and quickly rises over the tree tops. That erases any possibility that it is a small physical object much closer to the camera lens.
To me, they appear to be piloted, not as drones (not anything like any commercial drone.) No human could pilot a drone under and through trees moving that fast (maybe beings living at a much higher 'vibration' speed could operate a mechanical drone that fast, but not a human.)
AriG
16th January 2019, 16:59
39717
Another shot on 01.06.19
Back of farm very close to presumed origination point, but now looking at the video, it may have been more than 550 feet.
Uploading the video to Youtube now. 12 minutes to load through my hot spot.
Hard to believe. We have aliens, but no one will install internet out here. Wonder if our new friends might share?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0RgBfE--s
Bill Ryan
16th January 2019, 21:06
39717
Another shot on 01.06.19
Back of farm very close to presumed origination point, but now looking at the video, it may have been more than 550 feet.
Uploading the video to Youtube now. 12 minutes to load through my hot spot.
Hard to believe. We have aliens, but no one will install internet out here. Wonder if our new friends might share?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0RgBfE--s
Great. The little screenshot Ari embedded above is at 0:07.13 in the video. It's moving from top to bottom, and it's pretty hard to see. Here: (again, this is a large hi-res image, so view it separately for detail)
http://projectavalon.net/AriG_UFO_01_06_19_whole_screen.jpg
Dennis Leahy
16th January 2019, 21:36
Fastball!
An affinity for trees, or are they just too difficult to spot against lighter backgrounds? Maybe ask some UFO hunters/researchers that know digital video post-processing to play around with contrast, exposure, brightness, ... to see if others can be spotted in the same footage, especially going in different directions (like your #2 video.)
How high up is the drone, in this new "fastball" video? Do the commercial drone platforms with cameras have altimeters? Do you have any footage of hovering over a dark patch of forest from say, 100 feet up? That might be worth scouring.
jc71
16th January 2019, 22:28
Hi all,
Fascinating footage.
I have been looking at the second video, the one where there is a projectile moving to the right, and another seeming to come towards the drone, and I think there is a third projectile that is running parallel to the road prior to the projectile moving to the right becoming visible.
It happens in the first second of the 9 second clip, and I viewed it by loading the mp4 in my Chrome browser, and zooming in.
Can anyone else see that?
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/jopecu/download.png
OR - it is the same projectile but it turns sharply to its left to then become the more visible projectile moving to the right...
JC
AriG
16th January 2019, 22:41
The
Fastball!
An affinity for trees, or are they just too difficult to spot against lighter backgrounds? Maybe ask some UFO hunters/researchers that know digital video post-processing to play around with contrast, exposure, brightness, ... to see if others can be spotted in the same footage, especially going in different directions (like your #2 video.)
How high up is the drone, in this new "fastball" video? Do the commercial drone platforms with cameras have altimeters? Do you have any footage of hovering over a dark patch of forest from say, 100 feet up? That might be worth scouring.
Sorry to reply with full quotes (responding on iPhone) with my speck tackles (spoonerism)
husband says 200-250 feet. He’s sorry to say that the drone doesn’t have a feature to retain that info ( that he’s discovered yet). He sent me the footage in between his 8 meetings today. He said that if he can’t find a built in feauture he’ll start keeping a log ( that’s rich - My honey do list is pretty long - nag, nag)
AriG
16th January 2019, 22:46
Hi all,
Fascinating footage.
I have been looking at the second video, the one where there is a projectile moving to the right, and another seeming to come towards the drone, and I think there is a third projectile that is running parallel to the road prior to the projectile moving to the right becoming visible.
It happens in the first second of the 9 second clip, and I viewed it by loading the mp4 in my Chrome browser, and zooming in.
Can anyone else see that?
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/jopecu/download.png
OR - it is the same projectile but it turns sharply to its left to then become the more visible projectile moving to the right...
JC
I saw it as you did but I think it’s the same projectile after Bill and Dennis marked it? Not sure - been staring at this stuff for days. Eyes are wonky.
AriG
16th January 2019, 23:15
Not sure if this is relevant- we had quite unseasonably warm weather that week. Our weather station recorded a high temperature of 65 degrees F on the 6th. This week? The average is 30 and the low will be 3F.
Dennis Leahy
17th January 2019, 00:14
...OR - it is the same projectile but it turns sharply to its left to then become the more visible projectile moving to the right...
JC
Yes, JC, that's what I meant when I said it starts out over, or by, the road. It does seem to take a left turn, goes partially behind some tree branches, and then accelerates off and to the left (our right, as video viewers.) Looks like both this UFO and the one coming towards the drone and off to the left, are intelligent projectiles, as the one on the left also seems to start out at ground level (or "shoulder high", which is why I had to mentally rule out some human shooting something out of a crossbow or something.) If they are zipping through trees, dodging branches at high speed, they seem intelligent to me.
In AriG's post of footage shot 10 21 18 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CraJHkNfA) the UFO is a relative slowball.
AriG
17th January 2019, 21:31
The
Fastball!
An affinity for trees, or are they just too difficult to spot against lighter backgrounds? Maybe ask some UFO hunters/researchers that know digital video post-processing to play around with contrast, exposure, brightness, ... to see if others can be spotted in the same footage, especially going in different directions (like your #2 video.)
How high up is the drone, in this new "fastball" video? Do the commercial drone platforms with cameras have altimeters? Do you have any footage of hovering over a dark patch of forest from say, 100 feet up? That might be worth scouring.
Sorry to reply with full quotes (responding on iPhone) with my speck tackles (spoonerism)
husband says 200-250 feet. He’s sorry to say that the drone doesn’t have a feature to retain that info ( that he’s discovered yet). He sent me the footage in between his 8 meetings today. He said that if he can’t find a built in feauture he’ll start keeping a log ( that’s rich - My honey do list is pretty long - nag, nag)
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Husband just discovered additional features on the phone app that connects to the controller and it shows full flight plans including altitudes. The fastball video is actually recorded at 393 feet and he has discovered two other objects in that video that are going faster than the one I spotted. I am unable to catch it to upload.
Builder
20th January 2019, 20:34
Just found this and it gives very little information, and I have never heard of Skyfish, but could this be an explanation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRDUlRCMQE
Those rods should be know be every UFO researcher because they come up all the time and it's really no mystery how they are created on film:
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But the white objects in the drone videos look different.
Sunny-side-up
20th January 2019, 23:59
What about the second object though? Bottom left, it appears to be accelerating, ascending from the forest and also changing direction to the left. They both appear about the same time
Wow, I missed that. :facepalm: Yes, it appears in the trees at at 0:02.20, and shoots off to the bottom left in a straight line, disappearing out of view of the camera at 0:03.16.
Here's the trajectory of that one: Because it's heading generally towards the camera, it's harder to estimate the distance covered — which it does in 0:096 seconds.
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_2screenshot_2.gif
Bit of a late post here by me.
If you add this image with your first Bill, draw the lines on both.
Too me they look like pot shots by not a good shot.
The drone is climbing, not taken in to account by the shooter.
The objects look far below the drone and moving off cross country, when actually they are small slugs near but below.
The objects might look like they are speeding up, but it might just be because they are coming towards and then past the view point.
Just my gut feeling on that one.
I have witnessed slugs doing this myself in the past.
fast eyes, could have caught the slugs but then swoosh, they past
AriG
21st January 2019, 23:56
Too me they look like pot shots by not a good shot.
Thank you for your input Sunny Side Up. This really concerns me. I think I would rather have UFOs than someone shooting randomly toward fields where my animals graze (and dogs protect, and I often join in).
If you are correct, and I hope you are not, I have bigger problems than I thought and will probably have to share this with the Sheriff.
Do you know if any video exists of errant bullets being filmed by drones? I couldn't find any.
Do you know what kind of weapon might create such a firing? Would it be a shotgun, a handgun or a rifle, or god forbid, something semi or automatic? We hear shots around here all the time and due to the lay of the land, its almost impossible to determine their location. Especially on Sundays (God, family and Gun day - one drawback of being here).
Thanks for your help!
AriG
Dennis Leahy
22nd January 2019, 02:35
...
To me they look like pot shots by not a good shot.
The drone is climbing, not taken in to account by the shooter.
The objects look far below the drone and moving off cross country, when actually they are small slugs near but below.
The objects might look like they are speeding up, but it might just be because they are coming towards and then past the view point.
...
This is pretty compelling, when I looked at the film with that viewpoint. Two shots, fired off near simultaneously - the guy on the left nearly tags the drone. If the frame rate of the filming and a guess at distance shows the speed to be in the typical range of a bullet, it may be case solved. If these are shots, are they from a neighboring property, or your own? Who owns that white car?
AriG
22nd January 2019, 03:43
...
To me they look like pot shots by not a good shot.
The drone is climbing, not taken in to account by the shooter.
The objects look far below the drone and moving off cross country, when actually they are small slugs near but below.
The objects might look like they are speeding up, but it might just be because they are coming towards and then past the view point.
...
This is pretty compelling, when I looked at the film with that viewpoint. Two shots, fired off near simultaneously - the guy on the left nearly tags the drone. If the frame rate of the filming and a guess at distance shows the speed to be in the typical range of a bullet, it may be case solved. If these are shots, are they from a neighboring property, or your own? Who owns that white car?
I know, Dennis. Apparently, bullets can travel 2xs the speed of sound. The white car is not on our property. It belongs to some unsavory types that the we and the other landowners are trying to eradicate. However, they are not likely the source for reasons relating to the " heroin epidemic". Our property begins 10 feet before the white half finished gate and horse fencing. The "dirt road" that Bill refers to is actually our main drive (lol). At the time of the video, we had lost 50% of our gravel due to the 70" inches of rain this year. Since replaced. And our excuse for our half finished fencing!
A new person bought a parceled piece of other farmland directly to the left of our land. You can see his rooftop just left of the trees that separate our property lines. Could that be the trajectory? They are a lovely older couple and I do know that they have done target practice (with a proper stop), so I would feel completely comfortable talking to them about it. Undulant hills in Karst country = richochet.
But what confuses me is this - the frame shots that I captured. The still shots -
1. They look a lot larger than a bullet or shot in comparison to the 60' trees they are flying over.
2. They have a consistent geometry (thanks Bill! :))
3. In the video with the fire ring and smoking fire on our lowlands - that object is moving a LOT more slowly than the others. And it doesn't appear to have wings and it looks way too big to be an insect.
I wish I could find some footage or photos of a bullet in motion being filmed from above. Again, honestly? I am hoping for little grey men.. or perhaps impudent inter-dimensional teenagers flying their toys into the third dimension in spite of it being a no fly zone! Seems safer than rednecks with bad gun skills...
Sunny-side-up
22nd January 2019, 11:08
Any unlawful type creeping around in the trees with a riffle, would take a pot sot or two at such an inviting target as a Drone :(
It is only my gut feeling that I posted what I did, I don't know of examples.
I don't know of the actual mechanics of this.
Is the drone camera speed the right speed to capture a, lets say riffle shot in motion ?
But both trajectories do seem to come from the same tree, and like I say take into account the upwards and forwards motion of the drone, well the shooter didn't.
I wish I could find some footage or photos of a bullet in motion being filmed from above. Again, honestly? I am hoping for little grey men.. or perhaps impudent inter-dimensional teenagers flying their toys into the third dimension in spite of it being a no fly zone! Seems safer than rednecks with bad gun skills...
Hope your right
AriG
22nd January 2019, 14:04
Any unlawful type creeping around in the trees with a riffle, would take a pot sot or two at such an inviting target as a Drone
You really can't see the drone when its that high up. The drone is only about six inches long and 3.5 inches wide. At 400 feet it looks like a tiny dot. And you can't hear it from the ground either.
I don't know of the actual mechanics of this.
You probably know more than I do. We need another opinion from our in house Mathemetician :)
Is the drone camera speed the right speed to capture a, lets say riffle shot in motion ?
The speed was set to 30 frames per second (whatever that means)
But both trajectories do seem to come from the same tree, and like I say take into account the upwards and forwards motion of the drone, well the shooter didn't.
Pretty sure, if you believe that the shooter was actually on our property shooting, that he or she would not have been able to have seen or heard the drone at 400 feet
Sunny-side-up
22nd January 2019, 16:52
The only thing I could add about the tiny dot drone is.
if watched climbing and then pot shots taken ?
If you have the gift of aiming, wind, height, drop etc you can hit nearly anything.
Would also explain the, wide of the mark shots, if with a scope used, just means a bad shot.
It is all very interesting, was it a shooter, are the objects slugs or something (as you so rightly hope, as I hope) something more exotic :)
AriG
22nd January 2019, 19:03
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It is all very interesting, was it a shooter, are the objects slugs or something (as you so rightly hope, as I hope) something more exotic :)
I am not really "Jones-ing" for any exotic outcome. I just don't want us or our animals (or vehicles) to be the victims of someone's irresponsibility.
If they are not 'pot shots', and are something more along the lines of extra-terrestrial or multi-dimensional, they clearly have no intention of harming us or they probably would have already done so.
“The history of humanity is, to a very great extent, a history of violence.”
― David Livingstone Smith, The Most Dangerous Animal: Human Nature and the Origins of War
Did You See Them
22nd January 2019, 20:57
I'm sure you would have heard gun shots at the time if that were the case though !
Air rifle perhaps not.
Sunny-side-up
23rd January 2019, 11:39
One line of research you might wan't to add is:
One thing I've wanted to do for some time is, experiment with night vision.
Experiment with UV flood lights and or UV cameras if that is a possible tech?
You might all of a suddenly see a whole lot more flying around than you had bargained for.
These used day and night, see what you capture.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultraviolet-Blacklight-85V-265V-waterproof-Aquarium/dp/B077SLYFDH
Sunny-side-up
25th January 2019, 18:12
Interesting, watch at point 2:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl2ngpYKHQ
notice who it looks like it speeds up before impact.
keep investigating your vid, need to know what it was/is :sun:
Tam
25th January 2019, 18:43
Hmmmm....my boyfriend saw something very similar to this, about a year ago. I posted about it on a thread about all of his weird experiences. Let me dig it up and paste it here:
" My boyfriend and I were coming home late one night around 12 am, and decided to loop around the greenbelt/construction site area near our apartment, as we were playing a song we both loved and wanted to finish it.
This is a very dark area, without much traffic at all past sunset.
We're driving along, when he suddenly stops the car, jaw dropped. He looks at me, and is visibly disappointed. He tells me 'Please don't tell me you didn't see that'.
Naturally, I hadn't, so I asked him what he was on about, and why he stopped.
He proceeded to tell me how he was looking into the trees/woods, and saw a perfectly rectangular light at the top of the treeline. It surprised him as it was flying around as if searching for something. Since he wasn't sure what it was, he slowed slightly to get a better look at it, and it suddenly stopped, noticing him noticing it, and shot straight up into the air at incredible speed, disappearing as it did so.
He said it was absolutely, perfectly rectangular, with sharp edges. It wasn't a light in the electric sense, but glowed softly, in pure white. It seemed to have depth, yet was not 3-dimensional. He said the best way to describe it was like a viewing a window from face-on: a hole, with things behind it, except this was solid white.
It was about the size of a child, and was 100% not a reflection of headlights, or a piece of paper, or anything of the sort. He said it moved intelligently, and fast.
We both have no idea what to make of that."
Just my 2 cents. I'll show him the picture you have later and see what he thinks of it.
Ol' Roy
26th January 2019, 05:40
AriG, I live in Georgetown, KY out in Canewood. I was out on the deck one Summer night about 2:am, when I saw a slow moving alternating flashing multicolored object slowly moving at tree height across the golf course parallel to my house! You could barely make out it's outer shape! I was so mesmerized by this that by the time I went inside to get my phone, it went behind a pine tree and was gone! I only told my wife and daughters. I didn't want anyone to think I was THAT crazy. I did have doubts that I was hallucinating. Maybe, because I really would like to see one! BTW only coffee to drink! lol I would say it was 10ft tall and about 8ft wide and was hexagonal shaped.
Tam
26th January 2019, 19:59
Okay, so I showed the pics to my boyfriend (we'll just call him M, I hate the word boyfriend), and his exact words were:
"Holy sh!t. Wow. Yeah, that's exactly what I saw, same shape and everything. The one I saw was just a little wider."
He also found it interesting that when he saw it, it was also just above the treeline.
The thing that makes it definitely a craft of some kind is that when M noticed it, it seemingly noticed him noticing it, and shot straight up into the sky and beyond in like 2 seconds.
All of this coincides with numerous reports of UFO behavior; the intelligence, the apparent ability to recongize when it's been noticed, the ability to grab as well as deflect a bystander's attention, as well as its (officially) impossibly fast travelling ability.
How weird.
Now the fun question: who/what controls it? Is one of 'ours'? What's its purpose?
Bill Ryan
27th January 2019, 13:03
The only thing I could add about the tiny dot drone is.
if watched climbing and then pot shots taken ?
If you have the gift of aiming, wind, height, drop etc you can hit nearly anything.
Would also explain the, wide of the mark shots, if with a scope used, just means a bad shot.
It is all very interesting, was it a shooter, are the objects slugs or something (as you so rightly hope, as I hope) something more exotic :)
This is NOT a bullet. :) (See the first few posts on this thread)
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_detail_3_enhanced.jpg
Sunny-side-up
27th January 2019, 16:04
For sure bill, I was talking about another vid.
AriG
28th January 2019, 02:14
AriG, I live in Georgetown, KY out in Canewood. I was out on the deck one Summer night about 2:am, when I saw a slow moving alternating flashing multicolored object slowly moving at tree height across the golf course parallel to my house! You could barely make out it's outer shape! I was so mesmerized by this that by the time I went inside to get my phone, it went behind a pine tree and was gone! I only told my wife and daughters. I didn't want anyone to think I was THAT crazy. I did have doubts that I was hallucinating. Maybe, because I really would like to see one! BTW only coffee to drink! lol I would say it was 10ft tall and about 8ft wide and was hexagonal shaped.
Gosh, you’re only about seventeen minutes away. With the way Gtown has grown, I am surprised that this is taking place there. We are just beginning to see the effects of the towns light pollution to the south. Although, I saw a HUGE ship over Covington in the middle of the night in 1992. It was colossal and spanned the majority of the valley. And I looked at it, thought “ oh, it’s just a ship” and went right back to bed. Remembered it the next day as a fuzzy memory that became more clear over time.
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Sorry I have been mia from my own thread- I have been injured. Have a concussion, whiplash and a broken tailbone- I’ll just observe until I know my brain is
Ok
AriG
28th January 2019, 03:29
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Ol Roy - I was trying to place your location with regard to mine. I am the blue dot.
How long ago did you see your UFO?
I know zilch about ley lines. It’s odd that we seem to be almost perfectly aligned longitudinally...
And one other item of note. The 37th parallel is at approximately Berea and slightly southAbout an hour away. https://www.amazon.com/37th-Parallel-Secret-Americas-Highway/dp/1501135538
Dennis Leahy
28th January 2019, 05:15
...Sorry I have been mia from my own thread- I have been injured. Have a concussion, whiplash and a broken tailbone- I’ll just observe until I know my brain is
Ok
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! Speedy and complete healing to you, AriG!
AriG
7th February 2019, 01:38
Currently watching ‘Hellier’ http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105816-Hellierand possibly making a connection. What if these entities are biological in structure? Like a cocoon of sorts? The center piece looks almost as though there could be a biological life form encased therein.
My husband is in denial. He doesn’t want to send the drone up. He told me to do it if I am still curious. We’ve had horrid weather for two weeks. A 70 degree temperature change in less than 3 days (-5 to 68 F) and rain and snow. As soon as possible, I will be learning to be a drone operator.
AriG
7th February 2019, 03:57
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105537-The-problem-with-new-UFO-sightings&p=1267248&viewfull=1#post1267248
This is unusual. Look at the top photo on the right. Almost as though it is shedding a cocoon or
Perhaps a birth sac of sorts (like my goats). The creatures in this photo are almost identical to the creatures in ‘Hellier’.
And if the creatures are arriving here in some type of cocoon/birth sac would that account for the flimsy filmy winged type structure, could that be part of the “delivery “ mechanism?
Did You See Them
7th February 2019, 10:17
Hi AriG,
You thoughts are working in the same manner as mine are as to these "beings" !
Long story short - The link above to the Italian sighting has always resonated with me ( as does the Hellier graphic ! ) after I woke one night with a "creature" standing at the end of our bed back in late 90's. (I will post a full sighting report one day !! - I just never seem to be able to do it !! - like a mental block stopping me ! )
The creatures face, eyes, skin tone and general "dirty" grubby look are what I remember ( The one I saw was also wearing what I would describe as a thick, roughly woven hooded robe and was holding a glass rod thing )
I have never seen a "typical Grey" and tend to think that they ( or rather "that" look ) are more a description of peoples expectations or a false memory.
The creature I saw was small,dirty,smelt and just remind me of a goblin,gnome or other similar named "fairy book" depictions - but dirty !
They "vibrate" when caught out - that seems to interfere with people somehow.
They are VERY fast and can jump beyond what you would expect their frame to manage.
I think they travel in "spheres" or live in them !
I think the "spheres" can be any size from huge right down to dots of light.
I also think they are everywhere !
I'd also like to point out that I DO NOT associate these spheres or what I saw with anything that Corey Goode spews out - In fact I see his "testimony" as nothing more than a psyop to muddy the waters.
AriG
2nd March 2019, 01:20
2 days without rain or snow since December 1. (Year to date precipitation, per our weather station is almost ten inches.) And those two days were spent in the city with family. Itchy fingers dying to send up the drone. Incidentally, the thousands and thousands of frogs living here have been vocal for weeks. Very prematurely. We haven’t had that much weather that has been unseasonably warm. And the coyote population has quadrupled. Our livestock guardian dogs, Tara and Snowden, have also been incredibly nervous and unsettled. Something has definitely changed here.
AriG
8th March 2019, 00:47
Well here we go again...
Today was the first still day since the first uploads. We have had three months of solid rain/snow/wind.
The drone went up and the things are back (or still there).
Going to ask Bill to upload since they are not in a supported format on this forum.
Here’s a screenshot
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AriG
8th March 2019, 13:54
Thanks to Bill Ryan for uploading the files :)
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_3-7-19_Half_Speed.mp4
http://projectavalon.net/UFO_AriG_3-7-19_Normal_Speed.mp4
AriG
8th March 2019, 16:49
https://www.mufon.com/ufo-photos/three-fast-moving-objects-reported-over-las-vegas-strip
Very interesting- objects in upper left look very similar to mine but the witnesses description is not similar at all.
https://www.mufon.com/ufo-photos/three-fast-moving-objects-reported-over-las-vegas-strip
AriG
7th April 2019, 23:51
Bill Ryan?
Can you tell me how you magnified the first shots of the ufo that you loaded for me? I’ve been doing a little editing 40386of your magnified shots and the result is very interesting. I’d like to use the same process on other videos/shots. Thank you!
frankstien
8th April 2019, 00:58
In the second clip: I am seeing two objects. There is one near the beginning of the clip exiting out of the left frame and the other crosses left to right frame, then exits right frame. They both look like the same type of object: white, sleek, almost like a hi-tech paper airplane moving super fast. Am I seeing correctly? Are there 2? If there are 2, maybe there's more in there. Or am I seeing things? Anyhow--fascinating. Thanks AriG and Bill for posting this.
AriG
8th April 2019, 01:23
In the second clip: I am seeing two objects. There is one near the beginning of the clip exiting out of the left frame and the other crosses left to right frame, then exits right frame. They both look like the same type of object: white, sleek, almost like a hi-tech paper airplane moving super fast. Am I seeing correctly? Are there 2? If there are 2, maybe there's more in there. Or am I seeing things? Anyhow--fascinating. Thanks AriG and Bill for posting this.
yes you saw it correctly but I fear it is not 100% mechanical.
I observed one without a camera yesterday- it appeared for a nano nano second and disappeared. In motion to the eye it looked like an A4 sheet of paper caught in the wind, but it appeared and disappeared in a flash. Mentioned it to husband and he confirmed that he’d been seeing them. Well thanks a lot for telling me! I barked!
I think they are multi dimensional and are probably vibrating at a much higher rate than we. They probably can’t see us, I am guessing. As we can’t see the water bears that live in moss. Just a guess ?
https://featuredcreature.com/bizarre-world-of-moss-piglet/
frankstien
8th April 2019, 17:43
In the second clip: I am seeing two objects. There is one near the beginning of the clip exiting out of the left frame and the other crosses left to right frame, then exits right frame. They both look like the same type of object: white, sleek, almost like a hi-tech paper airplane moving super fast. Am I seeing correctly? Are there 2? If there are 2, maybe there's more in there. Or am I seeing things? Anyhow--fascinating. Thanks AriG and Bill for posting this.
yes you saw it correctly but I fear it is not 100% mechanical.
I observed one without a camera yesterday- it appeared for a nano nano second and disappeared. In motion to the eye it looked like an A4 sheet of paper caught in the wind, but it appeared and disappeared in a flash. Mentioned it to husband and he confirmed that he’d been seeing them. Well thanks a lot for telling me! I barked!
I think they are multi dimensional and are probably vibrating at a much higher rate than we. They probably can’t see us, I am guessing. As we can’t see the water bears that live in moss. Just a guess ?
https://featuredcreature.com/bizarre-world-of-moss-piglet/
They move so quickly and are so slender, at least the ones in that video clip. Most people probably wouldn't even notice them. It reminds me of what a friend of friend once told me. He used to take trips down to California - Baja Mexico and made many sightings there. He said most people wouldn't notice them because they didn't know how to look for them. He said there was a way of looking, it may have involved relaxing your eyes, perhaps calming and centering yourself. He didn't describe his method, but it worked for him.
These objects, whether terrestrial, extraterrestrial, or inter-dimensional may be all around us--all the time. And it is how we look at the world as to whether we see them or not. Our emotions, mood, and frame of mind may even play a part in these observations.
Did You See Them
8th April 2019, 18:49
Could they be single snowflakes ?
AriG
8th April 2019, 19:53
[Frankstien][/QUOTE]They move so quickly and are so slender, at least the ones in that video clip. Most people probably wouldn't even notice them. It reminds me of what a friend of friend once told me. He used to take trips down to California - Baja Mexico and made many sightings there. He said most people wouldn't notice them because they didn't know how to look for them. He said there was a way of looking, it may have involved relaxing your eyes, perhaps calming and centering yourself. He didn't describe his method, but it worked for him.
These objects, whether terrestrial, extraterrestrial, or inter-dimensional may be all around us--all the time. And it is how we look at the world as to whether we see them or not. Our emotions, mood, and frame of mind may even play a part in these observations.[/QUOTE]
It really was just serendipity that we discovered this- it was in drone footage. My sighting one yesterday would have been previously dismissed were we not to have had the drone footage experience.
I was messing around with another clip, just the basic photo editor on my phone (light and saturation is all you can do) and I got this:
AriG
8th April 2019, 19:55
Could they be single snowflakes ?
Probably not
frankstien
9th April 2019, 00:34
AriG,
Had a thought (this has probably also been covered previously--so humor me) regarding the previous clips with the fast moving sliver of an object. With the drone POV looking down view, we see the white objects against the background of the earth colors. If I was walking along and looked up, I might not see these objects, because now I would be looking against a cloud (or blue sky, or chemtrails, again white) background, which is also whitish in color. I would think it would be much harder to spot these from the ground POV looking up at the sky position.
AriG
9th April 2019, 02:26
AriG,
Had a thought (this has probably also been covered previously--so humor me) regarding the previous clips with the fast moving sliver of an object. With the drone POV looking down view, we see the white objects against the background of the earth colors. If I was walking along and looked up, I might not see these objects, because now I would be looking against a cloud (or blue sky, or chemtrails, again white) background, which is also whitish in color. I would think it would be much harder to spot these from the ground POV looking up at the sky position.
Absolutely! In fact when I saw the object with my eyes the other day, I was sitting in the end of the bed, tying my sneakers- the church and graveyard are the view from my bedroom (how about that for a romance killer- lol). So the object (being I am now convinced) was low to the ground. Like a swimmer doing lap turns. It appeared and disappeared in the blink of any eye (or less).
But to confirm your thoughts- yes, background makes a difference and perhaps deceleration? And POV.
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I do wish that someone in this forum in possession of a drone and a rural location would look for this phenomenon as well. As you said frankstien, it may be a worldwide phenomenon.
AriG
11th November 2020, 03:22
There is an update. And this is weird. My hisband witnessed a round tennis ball sized object flying relatively slowly over our land today. He said it was semi transparent and flew just below the treeline, but when it reached the tree line, it cleared it with little effort. Flew like a drone might, but it wasn’t a drone. Incidentally, our beloved cat Malarky went missing Friday night and hasn’t returned. Can’t help but wonder if this phenomena is related to soul departure. Maybe I need a vacation. Husband was in a conference call for work so he couldn’t leave his office to investigate or to call me. Whatever is going on here seems to be making itself more obvious, as prior sightings were only visible on drone footage that had been slowed. Interesting times.
AriG
12th November 2020, 02:34
Omg. I need to stop Posting with my stupid phone! What exactly is a hisband? Fat fingers? How? Size 6 here. No appetite since the anomaly appeared, Add covid 1984? I need a long swim in a cool sea followed by a long soak in a hot tub. Land locked in KY. With uaps flying all over the place. Thanks for listening. Peace out.
Le Chat
12th November 2020, 13:33
What exactly is a hisband?
Erm, the male equivalent of a herband?
sorry...:blushing:
AriG
12th November 2020, 23:32
What exactly is a hisband?
Erm, the male equivalent of a herband?
sorry...:blushing:
Omg you are clever! Lol. My language study was Spanish so I will say “ el gato es Muy bueno!”
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