The healing powers of fruit and herbs

[Constance]

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[robinr1]

truly a great post and doctor morse is so special. thank you

[Constance]

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[Forest Denizen]

...so I started taking herbs that targeted specific organs and this really helped.

Wow, very interesting and inspiring post, Constance!

May I ask what herbs you are supplementing your diet with?

With admiration and respect :flower:

Ken

[robinr1]

truly a great post and doctor morse is so special. thank you

Awwww...thanks Robinr1.:bearhug: He is rather special isn't he? :heart:



I watch so many of his videos I hear the words filtration and lymphatic system in my sleep.

[Constance]

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[Mike]

Constance that's an amazing testimony there. Thanks for sharing. You look great.

I feel the same about fruits - they jump off the shelf at me! Pears, oranges, apples...i see these fruits and i just wanna run them thru my juicer and guzzle a gallon of the juice. It's so satisfying.

Sometimes it is a chore for me to juice all the celery and cucumber and carrot, because all i want are the fruits!

But in my head I keep hearing all the warnings about fruit and blood sugar, fruit and rotten teeth, etc etc. I've never intuitively agreed with it, but it's gotten to me.

Just like there are certain diets that work for some people and not others, I've often wondered if there are certain diets that work for us at certain times. I don't know if I could do just fruit forever, but I've always thought it might be beneficial for me maybe a month out of the year or something.

[Constance]

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[Flash]

I don’t know where you live, but here there are no truly fresh fruits for 6 months of the year (in fact rather 8 months). Except for those transported from thousands of miles away. Same for herbs.

I wonder if frozen fruits would be as good or either the devitaminized one picked up when not ripe and having traveled for a week, being gazzed to accelerate their ripening when arriving at destination.

Got the same questions to vegetarians in the past.

Inuits (eskimos) almost never eat veggies or fruits, yet if they do not drink, they are quite healthy on almost exclusively fat and meat diet.

I do believe it works for you in your climate , but in ours??? I would have to see the studies of vitamins and proteins of fast frozen fruits and the needs in very cold climates. (Today is -30 centigrade, -22 farenheit))

[Constance]

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[Bill Ryan]

I think this is fascinating. :flower: Not being a medical professional (or a biochemist!), I do find it all sometimes hard to understand. And I bet I'm not the only one. :)

The proof is in the pudding, to make a bad joke. If someone's thriving and glowing on any regime at all, then kudos: it's just WORKING.

But sometimes, problems may start when another person thinks: Wow, I'm going to do exactly the same thing. And then, sometimes that doesn't work. (For them.)

There are some equally impressive testimonies for ketogenic diets, paleo diets (those two are very similar), and vegan/vegetarian diets in general. (Yes, see Akasha's All Things Vegan! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83021-All-Things-Vegan-) thread.) Some folks really do switch to eating a huge bunch of meat and fat, and then all their ailments disappear. This really happens. But maybe not to everyone!

All I can say is that we all need to listen to our bodies, and listen well — whatever they seem to be saying, unless they want drugs or cake and cookies. :) I suspect that all bodies are different, and maybe in ways that are just not yet fully understood by anyone.

What we gain from testimonies like this (and those of others, too) is that there may be many things to experiment with personally before settling on something that's just perfect for one's own purpose.

What I do think does NOT always help is someone saying Listen, this worked for me, so this is what everyone should do. Diet is primarily a practical issue, and if it's a belief (or value) system as well, that might easily get in the way. And there really are a lot of YouTube videos rather like that. That's one reason why the whole arena can be so confusing for someone who wants to change their diet.... but what to?

[Pam]

Constance, thanks for a most interesting and informative post. I eat a vegetarian diet that is mostly fresh, raw sprouts, veggies and fruits. In the summer when my fruit trees and berries produce I eat a lot more fresh fruit and notice a distinct difference. There is a lightness and vitality for me when primarily eating fruit. I am also fortunate enough to get it when it is very fresh from the vine or tree. I also notice the ease of digestion and a calmness and clarity of mind.

I believe the fear that some have of blood sugar imbalances and tooth decay could be more likely if one is consuming lots of juices. Eating whole unadulterated fruit slows down the digestive process and doesn't give a concentrated blast of glucose.

[petra]

Constance that's an amazing testimony there. Thanks for sharing. You look great.

I feel the same about fruits - they jump off the shelf at me! Pears, oranges, apples...i see these fruits and i just wanna run them thru my juicer and guzzle a gallon of the juice. It's so satisfying.

Sometimes it is a chore for me to juice all the celery and cucumber and carrot, because all i want are the fruits!

But in my head I keep hearing all the warnings about fruit and blood sugar, fruit and rotten teeth, etc etc. I've never intuitively agreed with it, but it's gotten to me.

Just like there are certain diets that work for some people and not others, I've often wondered if there are certain diets that work for us at certain times. I don't know if I could do just fruit forever, but I've always thought it might be beneficial for me maybe a month out of the year or something.

This is kind of synchronous for me, I recently stumbled across a news article about another fruitarian, and she was being seriously made fun of and looked down upon! She looked wonderful though, and seemed really happy to me. I love fruits too, and also nuts. When I eat them, I'm instantly rewarded.

I dislike juicers. I got 1 glass of apple juice from 6 apples, and the juice started to turn brown before I even got to drink all of it.

My teeth are already pretty bad, but technically, I don't really need them ;-) I'm considering this myself, and I do take into account my teeth, and my blood.

[Akasha]

I don’t know where you live, but here there are no truly fresh fruits for 6 months of the year (in fact rather 8 months). Except for those transported from thousands of miles away. Same for herbs.

I wonder if frozen fruits would be as good or either the devitaminized one picked up when not ripe and having traveled for a week, being gazzed to accelerate their ripening when arriving at destination.

Got the same questions to vegetarians in the past.

Inuits (eskimos) almost never eat veggies or fruits, yet if they do not drink, they are quite healthy on almost exclusively fat and meat diet.

I do believe it works for you in your climate , but in ours??? I would have to see the studies of vitamins and proteins of fast frozen fruits and the needs in very cold climates. (Today is -30 centigrade, -22 farenheit))

Not to get off topic but to quickly nip the ole' healthy Inuit yarn in the bud (source: pubmed.gov (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18457208)):


Life expectancy in the Inuit-inhabited areas of Canada, 1989 to 2003.
Wilkins R1, Uppal S, Finès P, Senècal S, Guimond E, Dion R.
Author information
Abstract
OBJECTIVES:

Because of a lack of Aboriginal identifiers on death registrations, standard data sources and methods cannot be used to estimate basic health indicators for Inuit in Canada. Instead, a geographic-based approach was used to estimate life expectancy for the entire population of Inuit-inhabited areas.
DATA SOURCES:

The data are from the Canadian Mortality Database and the Census of Canada.
ANALYTICAL TECHNIQUES:

Areas where at least 33% of residents were Inuit were identified, based on census results. Vital statistics death records for 1989 through 2003 and census population counts for 1991, 1996 and 2001 were used to compute abridged life tables for the Inuit-inhabited areas in each of the three 5-year periods centered around those census years.
MAIN RESULTS:

In 1991, life expectancy at birth in the Inuit-inhabited areas was about 68 years, which was 10 years lower than for Canada overall. From 1991 to 2001, life expectancy in the Inuit-inhabited areas did not increase, although it rose by about two years for Canada as a whole. As a result, the gap widened to more than 12 years. Life expectancy in the Inuit-inhabited areas was generally highest in the Inuvialuit region (Northwest Territories) and Nunavut (Territory), followed by Nunatsiavut (Labrador) and Nunavik (Quebec). While these results are not specific to the Inuit population, such geographic-based methods can be used with any administrative datasets that include postal codes or municipal-level locality codes.

[AutumnW]

I would DIE on this diet. I am not exaggerating. If I did it for a month, minus medication, I would lose so much weight I'd have to be hospitalized. I'd feel lighter for sure and more spiritually connected as many people do when they are in ketosis or nearing death.

Diet is an individual thing and as a weight loss regime for some people, being fruitarian temporarily is a great idea but there is not a society on earth that eats nothing but fruit without eventually suffering ill effects.

Having said that, you look wonderful Constance!

[Constance]

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[Bubu]

Holy cow arent you afraid of the sugar overload from all that fruits? But the truth is, the best tasting foods are: sweet and sour, sweet and creamy, sweet and spicy, sour and salty, salty and creamy and sweet, sweet and creamy and spicy. you name it sweet and salt is always there. But hey arent sugar and salt is bad for the health. I just realized that if you gather like minded people in one venue its so easy to mind control them because they react in the same manner to the same irritants.
Natural sugar is the best thing you can give to your body 95% of taste buds cant be wrong.

[Constance]

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[Agape]

That’s very encouraging and above all, it’s a good option, one of the most natural options of all natural options- for a vegetarian.
Imagine being alone in a jungle, fruits and nuts can actually feed you , they fed armies of monkeys( and monks) already.
I think it’s what we are naturally supposed to eat to stay healthy.

Vegetables are “health supplement”and digestion booster but can’t be eaten in big quantities in my opinion, most of them are hard and difficult to digest, raw or cooked.

Of fruits I like avocados recently the best- they’re delicious, not too sweet or acidic and contain some precious fats and proteins as well. Avocado is very filling kind of fruit.
Also coconut is very versatile and has many amazing properties.

Water melons and other melons that aren’t so sweet are also commendable.

Human genes are very diverse, as many of us observed already and if you look even closer to individual lives no two people eat the same.

Purifying ones body and mind so also diet is always worth it nonetheless.

I think that current standard medical aka scientific approach to human diet is like ball off the court. There is no “one size fits all” I guess. If it was the world would be easier place.

I completely believe people who listen to their body instead of advertisements and thus they get to their “right place” and health. Sometimes it can mean few errors but thus we learn. Know Thyself is important.

Once I’ve read a story of young toddler who suffered from all kinds of food related dysfunctions to the extreme he was hospitalised all the time - till his parents let him choose whatever did not cause him any trouble and guess what, the kid then lived on peppermints in chocolate for couple of years till his system matured enough to be able to eat so called “normal foods”. The point is, it was not a quirk, he was monitored medically and it did not cause him any harm either.

Cheers Constance :cocktail:

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[petra]

Drawing on more than 20 years of research, authors Tony Wright and Graham Gynn explore how our modern brains are performing far below their potential and how we can unlock our higher abilities and return to the euphoria of Eden. They explain how for millions of years early forest-dwelling humans were primarily consuming the hormone-rich sex organs of plants--fruit--each containing a highly complex biochemical cocktail evolved to influence DNA transcription, rapid brain development, and elevated neural and pineal gland activity. Citing recent neurological and psychological studies, the authors explain how the loss of our symbiotic fruit-based diet led to a progressive neurodegenerative condition characterized by aggressive behaviors, a fearful perception of the world, and the suppression of higher artistic, mathematical, and spiritual abilities.

I was contemplating the garden of eden before I checked back on this thread, and now you're giving me the creeps! But in a good way :)

Does it say anything or insinuate anything about where the garden was? I'm inclined to think the garden was not on Earth.

[Akasha]

Drawing on more than 20 years of research, authors Tony Wright and Graham Gynn explore how our modern brains are performing far below their potential and how we can unlock our higher abilities and return to the euphoria of Eden. They explain how for millions of years early forest-dwelling humans were primarily consuming the hormone-rich sex organs of plants--fruit--each containing a highly complex biochemical cocktail evolved to influence DNA transcription, rapid brain development, and elevated neural and pineal gland activity. Citing recent neurological and psychological studies, the authors explain how the loss of our symbiotic fruit-based diet led to a progressive neurodegenerative condition characterized by aggressive behaviors, a fearful perception of the world, and the suppression of higher artistic, mathematical, and spiritual abilities.

I was contemplating the garden of eden before I checked back on this thread, and now you're giving me the creeps! But in a good way :)

Does it say anything or insinuate anything about where the garden was? I'm inclined to think the garden was not on Earth.

It's been a couple of years since I last read it (it comes off the shelf every 4 or 5 years or so) but I think he is not being specific regarding the location. Eden is a metaphor from his perspective and a synonym for the equatorial rain forests where fruit is abundant all year round, thus allowing for the kind of development he postulates.

I don't think there is a PDF but that is probably a good thing because then Tony will continue to get revenue from what is without doubt a seminal work. Buy it!!!

[conk]

I believe our mental state plays a huge role in physical health. Many teachers claim that what the body needs is pulled from the air/ether/cosmos/universe. It may not matter what we eat, as long as it is not toxic. If a person sincerely believes that all their nutritional needs are met by eating cotton balls, then that may work for them. Yes, that is a silly and extreme example. ;)

Evidence for this idea may be found in those who practice as a breatharian or sungazer. Granted, this is a controversial topic. Where is Dawn? Dr. David Hawkins, my spiritual hero, said that for years he lived on hard cheese, apples, and sodas. He claimed that he received what his body needed from God. He lived a long, very productive life.

The newly popular Anthony Williams, The Medical Medium exclaims the virtues and great benefit of fruits. He is a very interesting medical intuitive. He allayed my fears of fruit sugars.

[spade]

I maybe wrong about this - but wasn't Steve Jobs a fruitarian?

[Agape]

It’s important to realise that whatever we eat- physically, energetically or mentally- becomes part of us - that’s before we are able to dispose of it anyway.
Thus we eat the environment- the energy and the chemistry of it- gases, liquids, particles, microbes, pheromones, dust , other creatures live information who are or were inhabiting the same space.
Where it comes to taking coarse physical pieces of biological matter to our mouth and ingesting it, one should be super cautious -from universal perspective.

Even though most humans still live in forgetfulness of their primordial state of natural wisdom and given the complexity and downfalls of human history, much can be also attributed to centuries of famines and forced starvation - usually followed by historical periods of super feeding, protein rich diets and general overconsumption.

One of the last such observable famine to indulgence epochs could be observed in Europe and many other parts of world following the WWII. But also in modern India for example who suffered waves of famine during and post British colonization period and with 1.5 billion people it took very long time to revert a phenomenon of starvation and widespread hunger to abundance- still not there- but overconsumption is looming over( now that was a joke:)).

In short and what I wanted to say really: whatever we take to our mouth becomes a part of us. Eating flesh and blood of other living creatures is quite predatory from Universal perspective.
Even if not native to humans but only adopted habit they’ve still been doing this for considerable amount of time to become predators.

And it’s the exact reason for confused and warlike state of civilisation as we know it.

If we all ate just fruits there would be couple of arguments but doubtfully so much aggression.

It would be more fun and joy to live in such kind of human society- we would be more childlike but certainly not more primitive.
It takes time to convince people to try to abstain from meat or animal based foods in general but it’s an important call to those who want to see real change in their lives happening, physical not only mental change.

“May all keep healthy and happy the way it fits them the best
If guest gets eaten will the host accomplish his quest
Putting all matters to the rest

Now”:bigsmile:

[RogeRio]

Hi Constance, I come here following the link you posted on " Joints, inflammation, and all that stuff ", by Bill Ryan . I have not better english , but I promise not invite you to eat marinated green beans, I swear.

Recently I develop a grid of experiences with plants, focusing in herbs, inspired by extra-physical friends , that I suppose be ETs , who tasked me to work hard day-by-day growing plants , to discover myself one of the results of the task, as follows :

They inspired me that plants, especially herbs, are wonderful friends and can be easely work energetically with us (humans). This fascinating simbiose , or in other word Sinergy , can be obtainned if you care the plant , while the plant can care of you , supplying substances . Its Simple as That !!

For example - with age, women need more calcium and iron than men to be health. Men body need more B complex, B12. I'm only saying this basic substances for example, because there are more complex composed substances, like polyphenols , antioxidants , that migh takes this story too far , as long as a imagination and metabolic substances are.

And so, returned to the basic reasoning, the plant can metabolize more calcium, or more iron, or more phosphate, etc, and beyond, can produce more antioxidants , etc , according you needed , more or less of course.

If you care the plant, making the plant feel good to live with you, the plants that you Eat will care you too, supplying substances that make you well.

Then, plants that you Eat like herbs, flowers, seeds, leafs, fruits, roots, any kind, you can choose some of them for cultivation , learn a few how to cultivate and try to be friend of this living beings. It Works !!!

It works because part of us (our DNA), live like plants in vegetative state, and so, we can (energetically) communicate with them in some way.

I'm telling you this, because this thread seems to me you need qualified substances. Other oportunity I share more details about this work with plants, and why the (supposed) ETs inspired me to make this experiences. Maybe I can ask them to inspire you too .. (lol)

For now, feel free to ask anything, if you want.

[petra]

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It works because part of us (our DNA), live like plants in vegetative state, and so, we can (energetically) communicate with them in some way.

I'm telling you this, because this thread seems to me you need qualified substances. Other oportunity I share more details about this work with plants, and why the (supposed) ETs inspired me to make this experiences. Maybe I can ask them to inspire you too .. (lol)

For now, feel free to ask anything, if you want.

I believe plants have a will (of sorts), and that we can communicate with them, just not with words of course.
I heard someone talking about how plants have control of their own DNA once, but I cannot find any reference to this online! Maybe that's not true, but it's interesting to imagine that in some ways, plants might be "smarter than people". Something to ask the ET's about, perhaps - I imagine they'd know more about DNA than we do.

[RogeRio]

I heard someone talking about how plants have control of their own DNA once, but I cannot find any reference to this online! Maybe that's not true, but it's interesting to imagine that in some ways, plants might be "smarter than people". Something to ask the ET's about, perhaps - I imagine they'd know more about DNA than we do.


Hi petra, thanks for reply. I tell you don't need to ask this ETs, first because, they probably will say " We answer only things that you cannnot discover for yourselves " , and second, benevolent beings dont interferes in Free Will evolution of others, in this case, mine, your, and why not to all of us, humans. I think thats exactly the case, and fortunately can answer you. Rather, I must introduce the subject because it is really vast and fascinating.

Before, I notice this ET behavior relatively guarantees they are a benevolent kind, remember that, and think they come here not for help us, but they help if they can, being happy with us to doing this as a friends. Don't forget this if you sense possible " aliens feelings or thoughs " inside you. This notice aims to reject anything doubtful or poorly understood, because may be a trap to fool you, not sended from the good cosmic workers. I also recommend you filter everything I say, never " believing " in nothing whithout a minimum wise scrutiny. Thats enough.

Well, follow my reasoning -- the human consciense are saying more evoluted than plants, but plants are able to metabolize organic substances with very low entropy. About 99% of energy absorved from solar rays are used by plants to transform mineral (inorganic) substances in amino acids, maybe proteins, etc. With this proteins, they build new fibers and textures to grow. Inside this fibers and textures there are " DNA ".

Then, if living beings can build their own DNA by own metabolism, they can (at least) adapt it under own demand, to grow more better, or to survive more better in adverse circunstances, or also, to evolute new capabilities, maybe only possible in next generations, but by definition, can build and change their own DNA. Thats the Point, we are discussing here to clarify my answer to you.

All living beings can " relatively control their own DNA " - This its true !!
But its not immediate, and the changes takes time to consolide, etc, etc

In favour this argument, I remember that for milenials, humans modify (adapt) DNA of Plants, Dogs, Cows, Lambs, even creating new races. This knowledge is currently hidden, I suppose not with good intentions, but I hope so, not for long.

[Earth Angel]

I think it was the books Anastasia The Ringing Cedars where they mention that putting seeds in your mouth before planting gives the seed info on what you in particular need and it grows according to those needs.

[petra]

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Well, follow my reasoning -- the human consciense are saying more evoluted than plants, but plants are able to metabolize organic substances with very low entropy. About 99% of energy absorved from solar rays are used by plants to transform mineral (inorganic) substances in amino acids, maybe proteins, etc. With this proteins, they build new fibers and textures to grow. Inside this fibers and textures there are " DNA ".

Then, if living beings can build their own DNA by own metabolism, they can (at least) adapt it under own demand, to grow more better, or to survive more better in adverse circunstances, or also, to evolute new capabilities, maybe only possible in next generations, but by definition, can build and change their own DNA. Thats the Point, we are discussing here to clarify my answer to you.

All living beings can " relatively control their own DNA " - This its true !!
But its not immediate, and the changes takes time to consolide, etc, etc

In favour this argument, I remember that for milenials, humans modify (adapt) DNA of Plants, Dogs, Cows, Lambs, even creating new races. This knowledge is currently hidden, I suppose not with good intentions, but I hope so, not for long.

Wow rogparan, this is fascinating to think about and a lot to take in!
In my mind, this is boiling down to "playing God" and it's kind of scary to think about too. I'm 110% certain we have more control than we realize.

[RogeRio]

Hi petra, I warned the developments were fascinating, to say the least.

With all respect (i don't know what you believe, or if believe), I understand that playing God it's a cliche, used by whom still believe that God it's unreachable Out of living beings. But who already understand that God is "with'IN", the Life Paradigm changes to discover and awake the Divine inheritance inside each one.

one wise hint - if you know and are sure, don't need to believe anymore about.

I'm only pointing here targets of interest and practicall possibilities to achieve, being friend of plants. Can appears surprisingly at first glance but if it wasn't possible do to, I wouldn't have done so well, and learned a lot.

[Kryztian]

The pawpaw fruit was once a staple of the American diet. It tasted like a tropical fruit yet it grew a far north as Ontario. Unfortunately, it was not well adapted to the American system of refrigerated food distribution.

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[jaybee]

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I saw this about Tansy a little while ago and this is the perfect place to share it - I've bought some Tansy seeds from Ebay + looking forward to growing them this year - the video caught my eye because of the comparison with Ivermectin -


More Powerful Than Ivermectin, Grew in Every Garden — Traditional Remedy That Few People Talk About(15:43)

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Growing tansy is an act of botanical archaeology, recovering what was deliberately buried. It grows fast,spreads reliably, and asks nothing in return except recognition. The golden flowers that once filled monastery gardens still bloom along forgotten fences, waiting for someone to remember their purpose. This is not nostalgia. It's practical resistance against a system that profits from our ignorance.


some comments under video on YT site...

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In recent years, regulators went door to door to notify homeowners that this weed was deadly. If we saw this we were to treat them in a specific way and notify them right away. Now I see why the urgency. Big pharma was threatened by it.

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From what I see even if you personally don't further learn to use this plant properly... the bees need it. They know how to use it. Plant it for them.

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I planted 4 seedlings 15 years ago. Now it grows self seeded,all over my garden. I use the leaves as a bug repellant around my chicken run and a tea made from the leaves mixed with salt,baking soda and dish liquid as a spray for aphids and other bugs in the veggie garden.

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The fear mongering about many herbs and plants is about dosage. The fact that these herbals have strong effects is testement to their power to heal if the dosage is correct.
Many pharma drugs are plant derived but then monetised.
Many pharma products if used in high doses or pronged use at prescribed doses can be very dangerous the recipient.
That's why we need people with this knowledge and experience to educate the public

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Yes Common tansy Tanacetum vulgare (Common Tansy) "WAS" used as remedy for some internal Parasites, But it is no where near as strong as Ivermectin!!! Just giving ya all a heads up as it were...

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It’s good to know about Tansy, though, in case “they” remove access to Ivermectin again.

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