Dolores Cannon: The Back Drop People

[Mike]

I was almost totally unfamiliar with Dolores Cannon up until a few days ago, when I ran into her while mindlessly watching youtube vids. All I knew was that she looks like every grandma I'd ever seen and wears fuzzy faded sweaters and likely smells of fabric softener and a hint of cheap perfume. She had also written books about waves of "volunteers" who had allegedly arrived from all over the universe to assist us in our little social experiment here. But, as it often does, one youtube video ended and tripped into another..and right as I was about to give it all up and go back to watching porn, I found myself involved with this strange but intriguing video about an alleged phenomena called "back drop people".

That thing you just did with your neck..tilting it to one side while furrowing your brow in utter confusion - that's what I did too. In all my years on the forum and reading old tattered paperback books from the occult section in my local used book stores,I'd never once come across this subject. Back drop people...wtf?

So this is what they are, and what they aren't:
They are not human. That seems like a good place to start. Cannon describes them as energy...energy that comes from all over the universe to masquerade briefly as bit-part characters in the play that is your life.

So you're at a concert, or a sporting event, or any place where there's a large crowd of people..an airport maybe. According to the fuzzy sweater wearing lady, a significant percentage of the people you see there are not quite real. They're just very convincing props.

Yeah, I know it's weird. According to Cannon and her channeled sources, there just aren't enough people in the world to fill in all the blanks as we pretend to be living our lives in what we're tricked into thinking is an unscripted world.

A large part of me thinks this is utterly absurd..it's the small part of me that is intrigued with such a weird, novel concept that is the inspiration behind this potentially regrettable thread. But be warned.. that same small part once talked me into a thread about the hollow earth. I'll take the risk though. We all have roles here; mine is not an intellectual one...that should be obvious by now.

Here's the Cannon video:
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[greybeard]

Your nobody's fool Mike.
Common sense more important than the highest IQ
Dolores no doubt believed what she wrote and said.
A "May be so" in my book.

Chris

[Flash]

About all of us are backdrops. We are not connected to our source, we are dead alive. So we are backdrops with no impact whatsoever in this life.

[onawah]

The first thing that leaped to my mind regarding this is something I've read about from various sources.
The idea that when a civilization is going through a huge transition such as Earth is now, there may be a corresponding, temporary rise in the planetary population because many souls from other worlds want to be present to take part in that as a learning experience.
They will not remain after the transition is finished, but will usually return to the world from whence they came, or to another world that will offer them good learning experiences for wherever they are in their evolution.
The idea being that at some point, they are going to be very involved in another planet going through a similar, ciritical transition, and they want to be prepared for it.
So what occurs to me is that if someone is just here basically to observe for a lifetime or two, they may not seem to others who have made this world their more permanent home to be fully present.
And so they might not seem very "real".
If that makes sense...

[Corfitz]

Her book "Keepers Of The Garden" was one of the first hard copies in my personal library. Though it's some years ago I read it, I remember being quite fascinated with the book, might give it a second read.

First time I've read about the back drop people concept. Will check out the video later.

[Chip]

I wonder if our very own Collective has caught up with Dolores with regards to The Back Drop People when this meme was created.

Origin
On July 7th, 2016, an anonymous 4chan user submitted a thread titled "Are You an NPC?" to the /v/ (video games) board,[5] which referred to people who "autonomously follow group thinks and social trends" as "NPCs" (shown below).

Are You an NPC? Anonymous
I have a theory that there are only a fixed quantity of souls on planet Earth that cycles continuously through reincarnation. However, since the human growth rate is so severe, the soulless extra walking flesh piles around us as NPC's, or ultimate normalfags, who autonomously follow group thinks and social trends in order to appear convincingly human. 1. Wake Up- frog jpg db SauceNAO 194KİB, 918x712 View Same Google iq I call these people NPC's because when you talk to them they just say the same **** every time. "TRUMP IS HITLER", "JUST BE YOURSELF", "SPORTSBALL", "THE NEW ADELE SONG XD OMG". If you get in a discussion with them it's always the same buzzwords and hackneyed arguments. They're the kind of people who make a show of discomfort when you break the status quo like by breaking the normie barrier to invoke a real discussion. it's like in a vidya when you accidentally talk to somebody twice and they give you the exact lines word for word once more.

On September 5th, 2018, several threads were submitted to 4chan[7][8][9][10] discussing people who did not have an "inner-voice." In the comments sections, many described those who do not have an internal monologue as "NPCs." On September 7th, a grey-colored variation of Wojak began appearing in threads about NPCs (shown below).[12]
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/npc-wojak

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/411/366/eb3.jpg

[greybeard]

The late Dr David Hawkins said that below a certain level of consciousness people are not aware they exist.
I cant remember the exact context of the comment.
I dont understand the concept but I have respect for what he said.
This might cover Back Drop people.

Chris

[Corfitz]

The non playable character meme did make me laugh, I'll have to admit.
The theory of "fixed quantity of souls on planet Earth that cycles continuously through reincarnation", kind of sounds like my understanding of scientology, with the addition that many souls share one body.
Fascinating subject though.

[lake]

This is quite old knowledge, which has been 'rewritten' by many!

One of the newer ones is:

http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#organic_portal


Organic Portal

Term that originates from the Cassiopaean Transcripts. I have supplanted this term with “Spiritless Human” which is more descriptive. Organic Portals and Spiritless Humans share the same definition. The term denotes a person who has mind, body, and soul but lacks spirit. They are lacking the heart, crown, and third eye chakras since these are only uplinks to a spirit, which in their case is nonexistent. Therefore they are permanently incapable of experiencing genuine empathy or having sincere interest in anything outside material pursuits. They comprise the majority of psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, and robotic background characters that pad the population.

But it really dates back to the Book of the Dead and the Second Death.


if Apophis conquers the Soul, then it cannot escape a second death

In short....As Earth attempts to move forward into her 5th life, those failed souls from her first 4 lives try to 'hold her back'. And while NPC is rather apt they are highly disruptive and destructive, wishing only to deconstruct any individuality.


Steiner in 1924 spoke of them:


taken as a whole it is correct to say that in our time certain supernumerary people are appearing who have no ‘I’ and are therefore not human beings in the full sense of the word. This is a terrible truth.

They go about but are not incarnated ‘I’s; they take their place in physical heredity, receive an ether body and an astral body and in a sense become equipped inwardly with an ahrimanic consciousness. They appear to be human if you do not look too closely yet they are not human beings in the full sense of the word. This is a terrible truth and it is a fact.

Blavatsky in 1897 spoke of ‘soulless men’ and ‘death of soul’ in Isis
Unveiled, Vol. II and in The Secret Doctrine, Vol.III.

There are many who have pointed toward them....

Even I stated it, on this forum, 3 years ago:



I stated that most are 'background', I didn't say you are!
In fact the greater percentage of those on Avalon are of no thing, or should I say the rainbow of shadow? Does that sound better​ More 'new age'?

I am beginning to think that there is 'nothing' new and all authors do is find an old book and rewrite it!

[Bill Ryan]

A "May be so" in my book.


A "Highly unlikely" in mine! :)

[greybeard]

A "May be so" in my book.


A "Highly unlikely" in mine! :)

As you probably know Bill the Scots have a not proven verdict.
WE think they are guilty but cant prove it, is the inference.
I suppose that influences my "may be so"

Not proven to be "Highly unlikely" but most certainly you are correct.
If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck,etc then it probably is a duck.
So if it acts like a human it probably is.

Maybe I like sitting on the fence --on some things--smiling

Chris

[ripple]

QUOTE=Mike;1269830]I.it's the small part of me that is intrigued with such a weird, novel concept that is the inspiration behind this potentially regrettable thread. But be warned.. that same small part once talked me into a thread about the hollow earth. I'll take the risk though. We all have roles here; mine is not an intellectual one...that should be obvious by now.

Mike , we are all inquisitive , whether gambling that we can cross the road without being knocked down to somehow getting a peep around the corner and into the future .And that is exactly what a Snake Oil Seller depends on, when they grab you with their story. Something for nothing . Something special for the initiated and those that want to progress .
Dolores uses 'Channeling " and "Nostradamus" to get you excited .
John Hogue is generally accepted as a world authority on the life and writings of Nostradamus . See what he has to say about Dolores and her purported knowledge . He is scathing and the phrase New Age Sewage is his mildest comment . Now I am no great fan of John Hogue once he moves from academic scholarship to making his own predictions . And whilst I dismiss both out of hand as seers , I respect John for his academic work re. Nostradamus the real man and his circumstances . But you can meet a version of Dolores in any spiritual church or meeting point the length and breadth of anywhere you live . I have met many of them -- most are lovely , sincere , well intentioned people . But ----- .imho .

[lake]

If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck,etc then it probably is a duck.
So if it acts like a human it probably is.


Well that is the point under discussion Chris, !

If you take my last post, where I quote Steiner stating the "ahrimanic consciousness" then we can see that it may act as a 'spirited' human but that doesn't mean it is!

What is "ahrimanic"


Angra Mainyu is the Avestan-language name of Zoroastrianism's hypostasis of the "destructive spirit". The Middle Persian equivalent is Ahriman.
Angra Mainyu is omnimalevolent.
Angra Mainyu can be thought of as the original concept of Satan or other similar entities from multiple religions.

And if you listen to someone such as Dr. Bill Deagle (who states that this world is run in the name of Satan) who has said " avatar-ing the flesh of human beings" in order to control.......then maybe quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, but darn well is NOT a duck.....is closer to the truth?

Edit to add: Sorry just realised that I am off topic!

I am attempting to show that "evil" will create "flesh" to be used within this drama!

Whereas, of course, we only would create the buildings and landscape within which to "play" our pre-defined narratives!

We wouldn't ever create "back ground" people.......Would WE?

[Joe Akulis]

This sounds a lot like a theory that we batted around on a different thread a little while back. About the possibility that we are each living in our own "instance" of earth. That there are levels of existence for the other people here.

Those in our immediate vicinity that we interact with each day, they are roles filled by volunteer souls who agree to make the investment in time and energy to help with your incarnation. And anyone else that we only catch glimpses of at airports and all the other places in live where people just come in and out of our lives, are all part of an outer layer of volunteers that jump in for a few minutes and then back out.

Presumably we are doing the same kind of volunteering for tons of other folks who have their own incarnations going in separate timeline instances of their own earths.

I thought for sure it was a thread that Bill started, but I flipped through his list and it wasn't there... Anyone else remember that one?

[lake]

Ok....in the OP video Cannon states (paraphrasing):


This building didn't exist until you came here and once you are gone then it will no longer exist

and


these 'people' are only there when you see them, else they do not exist

Now I did start a thread three and a half years ago:

Emotions Becoming Embodied (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82899-emotions-becoming-embodied)

in which I state that I have been interacting with 'humans' who are my own emotions.

That experience was strange! (no really ya dont say :facepalm: )

I had started a new contract as a consultant and was having rather a few emotional issues....Which presented as individuals in the work place!

It got so weird that eventually I called them all together for a meeting and literally questioned them about it (thought the men with the strapped white backwards jacket might be called) and they were just "Well yes, so what?"

And that was when I knew that it wasn't just the landscape which could be created.

:waving:

[Alanantic]

Reminds me of an LSD trip I had. I was at a clothing optional resort and just watching people. The strange thing was, I saw living people and dead people, but they were all physical. Maybe I was seeing conscious and unconscious people. Or...now, maybe they were "backdrops". I also watched a volleyball game and I saw the reason behind wherever the ball went. There was another game being played between people other than volleyball...

[enigma3]

Sounds a bit like Archons from David Icke.

[lunaflare]

Hey Mike!

Good to get a break from porn by tuning into Dolores...

I've met Dolores and listened to her lectures. She is not the cuddly soft-spoken scone baking grandmother you may be conjuring... She is articulate, willful, wise and aligned with her mission --arising from her experiences with clients when they were undergoing hypnosis. As a professional woman, born to a certain era, she also took a mighty risk with the type of material she wrote/talked about.

To prove/disprove this theory seems pretty simple.
Next time one is in the airport/stadium or the like...just go up to these so-called-spiritless humans and engage.
Will you see a sparkle in their eyes? Will they have a story? Can you help them with their baggage or buy them a coffee? Chances are they will be uniquely treading their own journey. Just like you.

[Dennis Leahy]

I was almost totally unfamiliar with Dolores Cannon...... Back drop people...wtf?

So this is what they are, and what they aren't:
They are not human....

One big problem in subscribing to the notion of background people, or really, of the 'game'/holograph concept of life, is losing compassionate connection with what just might really be 8 million souls struggling on the same 3D planet. It isn't a giant leap to, "Hey, I don't care about Israelis slaughtering the Palestinians - none of it is real. Since they are not in my immediate world of assumed real humans, I'll just say they don't really exist and not have to spend any more time fretting about it. It's all a game. If it's out of my field of vision, it isn't real. "The Truman Show" is accurate. Pass the popcorn."

So, Dolores scares me with this concept. She is leading people towards an attitude of dismissing most of humanity, being apathetic to the point of "depraved indifference" towards billions of humans - other souls on individual incarnate journeys. It is very selfish and self-flattering to believe that billions of humans don't really exist other than as temporary backdrops.

I measure spiritual growth - on Earth - as the (fuzzy) boundary of an expanding circle of compassion. I say "on Earth" because if your soul can do its work alone in a cave away from other ensoulded beings, you'd have no need of being on Earth. The wider (humanity) and more all encompassing (all life forms) your compassion becomes, in my view, the more obviously "enlightened" and "spiritually evolved" you are.

Dolores confuses me with a number of things she says, that seem kinda like campfire story embellishment details that popped into her head, and she went with them, and then she had to stick with them. I don't know. my gut says she may be a total fraud who has gleaned some true spiritual reincarnation details, and then added her schtick. Evidently, none of the 7000 soul regression-memory subjects Michael Newton spoke with ran into Dolores' version of the truth.


{edited, to add:} Lunaflare's post was not there, or I hadn't seen it, when I composed my post. The juxtaposition of her post saying great things about Dolores, having met her, and the next post being me blurting out 'possible fraud' was accidental. My post was not a reply to Lunaflare. Quite frankly, since Lunaflare has studied Dolores' material, and met her, and feels as she does, that makes my intuition uneducated, if not unfounded, and Lunaflare's impression is more likely the correct one.

[Flash]

WoW, i had never seen it that way. Hum... goes with my experiences too, at least in part
Adding: I have met people wiyhout a heart chakra. Very materialistic, not at ease at all with emotions, very bright. But not truly human even if everything seem to be in appearances (having families and all)

The energie tells you at first, there is something repulsive to a sensitive human.
Now guess where I saw them....
To me they were backdrops because mot truly in my world, nor from it on an esoteric level.


Ok....in the OP video Cannon states (paraphrasing):


This building didn't exist until you came here and once you are gone then it will no longer exist

and


these 'people' are only there when you see them, else they do not exist

Now I did start a thread three and a half years ago:

Emotions Becoming Embodied (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82899-emotions-becoming-embodied)

in which I state that I have been interacting with 'humans' who are my own emotions.

That experience was strange! (no really ya dont say :facepalm: )

I had started a new contract as a consultant and was having rather a few emotional issues....Which presented as individuals in the work place!

It got so weird that eventually I called them all together for a meeting and literally questioned them about it (thought the men with the strapped white backwards jacket might be called) and they were just "Well yes, so what?"

And that was when I knew that it wasn't just the landscape which could be created.

:waving:

[lake]

So, Dolores scares me with this concept. She is leading people towards an attitude of dismissing most of humanity, being apathetic to the point of "depraved indifference" towards billions of humans - other souls on individual incarnate journeys. It is very selfish and self-flattering to believe that billions of humans don't really exist other than as temporary backdrops.


If I can address this:


other souls on individual incarnate journeys

and in doing so hopefully ease your concern?

Cannon....as far as I can glean....is only presenting a limited consideration of the already known, regarding 'back drop people'.

Within the old books one finds very many references to this knowledge....but it continues from just the creation and interaction!

She missed out the part where YOU MUST treat them as your child.

You created them....take full responsibility for that action.......or else!

'They' .... can become as full individual interactions with the totality of All.

There is so very much which is never told nor discussed but which 'creates' and determines the 'paths' walked.

I have 'hated' this 'earth' for a looooonnnnng time.......but now I comprehend more my place and reason....and the same as yours and the "back drop people".......it is so very, very vital.

You do not dismiss them....You create them and they are akin to 'children'!

[AutumnW]

I was almost totally unfamiliar with Dolores Cannon...... Back drop people...wtf?

So this is what they are, and what they aren't:
They are not human....

One big problem in subscribing to the notion of background people, or really, of the 'game'/holograph concept of life, is losing compassionate connection with what just might really be 8 million souls struggling on the same 3D planet. It isn't a giant leap to, "Hey, I don't care about Israelis slaughtering the Palestinians - none of it is real. Since they are not in my immediate world of assumed real humans, I'll just say they don't really exist and not have to spend any more time fretting about it. It's all a game. If it's out of my field of vision, it isn't real. "The Truman Show" is accurate. Pass the popcorn."

So, Dolores scares me with this concept. She is leading people towards an attitude of dismissing most of humanity, being apathetic to the point of "depraved indifference" towards billions of humans - other souls on individual incarnate journeys. It is very selfish and self-flattering to believe that billions of humans don't really exist other than as temporary backdrops.

I measure spiritual growth - on Earth - as the (fuzzy) boundary of an expanding circle of compassion. I say "on Earth" because if your soul can do its work alone in a cave away from other ensoulded beings, you'd have no need of being on Earth. The wider (humanity) and more all encompassing (all life forms) your compassion becomes, in my view, the more obviously "enlightened" and "spiritually evolved" you are.

Dolores confuses me with a number of things she says, that seem kinda like campfire story embellishment details that popped into her head, and she went with them, and then she had to stick with them. I don't know. my gut says she may be a total fraud who has gleaned some true spiritual reincarnation details, and then added her schtick. Evidently, none of the 7000 soul regression-memory subjects Michael Newton spoke with ran into Dolores' version of the truth.

Some people are mundane thinkers whose preoccupations revolve around their immediate concerns, stresses and entertainments. They are not soulless or worthless, cruel or expendable. ( maybe just a bit annoying??:o) Laura Knight Unspellable ran with this idea and it gained a certain amount of traction.

As Dennis says, these are potentially very dangerous concepts, particularly in a pre-fascist era where there are so many forces out there that encourage us to deny the humanity of those defined as, "other."

But purely speaking, the idea of backdrop 'people,' who have some kind of mission here and then fade out? To me, this speaks to the idea that dream life and waking life are not fixed and completely separate, nor are they just products of our own consciousness.

Our lives are amorphous structures, products of a greater consciousness, we unwittingly co-create with...that is, until we realize this fact, much like a person "dreaming" can become lucid within a "dream".

After that point we gain a bit more agency. In that respect, I have the impression that the backdrop people may be what we would call angels or inner guides and they may manifest in the physical at times.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I personally reject all such talk. The ego likes to complicate and rationalize the irrational.
This is the ego's world, built and made by us. This is not creation and this is not life.

[enfoldedblue]

Many years ago during my awakening period synchronicities were sooo intense. Things like going to a bar in a huge city in different country and ending up sitting accross from 2 people from my home town. During this time one of my friends joked that the reason we were experiencing such things was that there really only were a few thousand people on Earth and the rest were filler.

Many years later I came across Delores' theory and found it intersting that it aligned with my friend's joke. However I am definitely am not saying I think it is true. I also believe that each person on Earth has a story and is growing in some way.

However what I do think is possible is that maybe one man's filler is another man's hero. In that there are soul groups working on particular lessons or missions, and for each specific soul group..there will be active players.... and the rest are kinda filler, or extras. So we may play main caracters in some stories...and be extras in others.

Another idea relating to this that intrigues me is the idea that many of us here are actually living parallel lives...in that have the experience of being the me i am consciously aware of....but my soul could also be expressing itself as a man living in India, a woman in Italie etc. I considered this because sometimes on the edge of sleep i get flashes of what feels like scenes from current, but different lives.


Hope this makes some sense!

[Mark]

I'm under the impression that all energetic beings have at least some form of consciousness running the show, causing them to be who they are, where they are and when they are during their sojourn within this material plane. The question of how much of that energy is caught up in the "I" formation seems to be the point of contention. There does seem to be a scale, upon which some fall to the left, which may be more collective in nature, while others fall more toward the right, which may be more individualistic. Implications of incarnation, young or old soul and potential walk-in status per Dolores, apply as well.

[Valerie Villars]

I have to say I experienced this. I saw some people like they were walking dead. Some people were very alive. I think it has more to do with being really conscious and awake versus some people who are sleep walking through life. It's just different vibrational levels. It's really an awful thing to experience and quite frightening. It's like a version of "The Truman Show". I assure you it's quite real.

In fact, it was so disturbing to experience this first hand, I almost didn't make it through the experience.

From what I remember, the Gnostics also have a version of these "non living" beings.

I do believe they are alive, but not as sentient as other beings. However, those with more conscious awareness than us, probably experience us as the walking dead. It's all in the perspective.

It's much easier to just watch porn and not think about it. (I am, of course, kidding.)

[white wizard]

I was actually thinking about this theory today while in the shower and than boom its

on Avalon. I credit Delores with turning my life around and pulling me out of the fear

mentality. I also know the akashic records are a real thing and I think she is right.

Just my gut feeling that lady was a pioneer and in past life regression and her work

should be taken seriously.

[angelfire]

You may not regard yourself as an intellectual, Mike, but you certainly have a way with words and one that often makes me laugh out loud!

Thanks for an interesting and thought provoking post!

[Arcturian108]

In my opinion Dolores Cannon was a great story teller and fantasist. She was very knowledgeable about past-life regression, and personally trained me to do such.

[AriG]

Delores Cannon is definitely an acquired taste. That said, I completely agree with the back drop people theory. It seems to me, that the world is suddenly full of empty people- those without care, responsibility and compassion. The ones hooked into their phones driving 100 mph down the highway weaving in and out of traffic- who does that? Not a human, that’s for sure. Move in to the young people taking the “ tide challenge”- eating toxic soap pods that I wouldn’t use in my laundry, let alone ingest! Just two simple examples. But, when a decent percentage of the population is erratic, careless, hateful, self interested and cruel, the only conclusion I can draw is that they represent the modern era version of the serpent in the garden. There to disrupt and challenge that which is good. Bad actors in the theater of life. Their purpose to test our resolve to be kind caring and decent The embodiment of Mr. Smith(s) in ‘ The Matrix ‘.

[RunningDeer]

...the young people taking the “ tide challenge”- eating toxic soap pods that I wouldn’t use in my laundry, let alone ingest! Just two simple examples...

https://i.imgur.com/HUxUJRQ.gif For those unfamiliar with the laundry pod dare.https://i.imgur.com/CIEhvsN.gif


Laundry pods latest target of teenage dares (2:29 minutes)
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[Bubu]

back drop people to me are those that dont seem to trust their own ideas or senses so they simply subscribe to the absurd ideas of self proclaimed gurus like dolores. My beliefs may only be true to me but they are true, to me at least.

[Joe Akulis]

Heh heh. Sheesh, Bubu. You might not have worded what you wanted to say there very well...

The world is flat. If you sail too far in one direction, you'll fall off the edge. That was probably someone's "own idea" a few hundred years ago. Then this self-proclaimed guru sails up and says he kept sailing and found some new territory that no one even knew existed.

That person who's truth encompasses an idea that the world is flat had better not pay much attention to these explorers, otherwise he could start believing that they are right, and it'll be obvious that he doesn't trust his own idea of a flat world anymore, and thus be looked upon as a back drop person.

Better to remain a foreground person and continue to believe everything is flat. Flatness will still be true to him, after all.

(Sorry, I just couldn't avoid the urge to shoot holes in that one...)

[Wind]

If some people don't make a direct impact on your life doesn't mean that they wouldn't do that to someone else in the world. So in a sense we feel that the several other billions of people on planet Earth are not connected to us, but yet they are because separation is only an illusion. It truly is. We are not always just conscious of that and meaningful soul connections are another thing.

I don't think I could subscribe to the backdrop people theory as it is presented, it makes no sense.

[Bubu]

Hey Joe, hahaha now get ready for the hole plugger. You are speaking from the point of view of an idiot, oooppps sorry dont mean any negativity just speaking my truth just my truth. I'm the kind who is always eager to investigate new perspective and embrace it whenever its validated by my logic. am not the kind who will deny the truth simply to remain in my comfort zone and know that I will remain an idiot for the rest of my life.

for your comfort idiot are mere words that is use to describe equal but diverse people. But in reality there is no idiot humans simply has different strengths idiots are the corrupted version of humans the "sheeple" or the hubots if you may. Anyone that is connected to himself is connected to the source and is no idiot even flat earthers maybe more so. I can imagine the looks on my 4 months old first grandson full of wonders but know almost nothing. 3 years from now he may start thinking that earth is flat. and who does not? He is certainly no fool wiser than me surely. So wise that his looks uplifts not only me but everyone who can pay few seconds of attention to his innocence. he is the version of an innocent but honest flat earther not the defiant ignorant one. Unfortunate we are talking of two different kinds of believer and you are not describing me.

Joe my friend, I know you already for a while your comments anywhere on avalon are some of the ones i never ignore. you are certainly no fool just speaking from the point of view of another person.

[Joe Akulis]

Just making sure you got the impression that if you're gonna hop into a Dolores discussion and blurt out without any preamble that she's a self proclaimed guru with absurd ideas, that you better be ready to duck. :-)

Where's that Back to Topic sign?

[Bubu]

Just making sure you got the impression that if you're gonna hop into a Dolores discussion and blurt out without any preamble that she's a self proclaimed guru with absurd ideas, that you better be ready to duck. :-)

Where's that Back to Topic sign?

thanks Joe I dont know what this forum is for you but for me its simply a exchange of ideas. I see no reason to duck from an honest discussion. did I ones duck anywhere on avalon?

[TomKat]

I was almost totally unfamiliar with Dolores Cannon up until a few days ago, when I ran into her while mindlessly watching youtube vids. All I knew was that she looks like every grandma I'd ever seen and wears fuzzy faded sweaters and likely smells of fabric softener and a hint of cheap perfume. She had also written books about waves of "volunteers" who had allegedly arrived from all over the universe to assist us in our little social experiment here. But, as it often does, one youtube video ended and tripped into another..and right as I was about to give it all up and go back to watching porn, I found myself involved with this strange but intriguing video about an alleged phenomena called "back drop people".



Movie: Inception. Pretty good illustration.

[TomKat]

A "May be so" in my book.


A "Highly unlikely" in mine! :)

I think of the "background people' as having little vertical consciousness (individual connection to higher self) and mostly just have horizontal (group) consciousness. That's why they're so predictable, and tend to believe the official version of things.

At least in this version of reality. In another version, I may be the one just barely present while they are the individuals.

[lake]

I would guess that most will have read this book:

ILLUSIONS
The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah

http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Richard%20Bach%20-%20Illusions%20-%20The%20Adventures%20of%20a%20Reluctant%20Messiah%20(2001).pdf

and the concept (as I consider it ) of "back drop people" is even expressed within it, page 54:


The vampire looked up at me and smiled, completely at ease, enjoying himself hugely, an actor on stage when the show is over.

“I won’t drink your blood, Richard,” he said in perfect friendly English, no accent at all.

As I watched he faded as though he was turning out his own light... in five seconds he had disappeared.

Shimoda sat down again by the fire. “Am I ever glad you don’t mean what you say!”

I was still trembling with adrenalin, ready for my fight with a monster.

“Don, I’m not sure I’m built for this. Maybe you’d better tell me what’s going on. Like, for instance, what... was that?”

“Dot was a wompire from Tronsylwania,” he said in words thicker than the creature’s own.
“Or to be more precise, dot was a thought-form of a wompire from Tronsylwania.If you ever want to make a point, you think somebody isn’t listening, whip ‘em up a little thought-form to demonstrate what you mean. Do you think I overdid him, with the cape and the fangs and the accent like that?

Was he too scary for you?”

[greybeard]

illusions The Reluctant Messiah" --the audio book read by Richard --the author.
One of the most moving books I have enjoyed.
Thanks for the reminder lake
Chris

[Innocent Warrior]

Hi, Mike.

IMHO -

I find it less confusing to go to the source of the information when it comes to topics Dolores spoke about because she sometimes neglected to keep it in the context in which it was delivered. She also presented her summaries from her perspective and with her comprehension, while it would have been more informative to have interviewed the client about it.

The chapter on back drop people came from The Convoluted Universe series, which is an excellent series but this chapter from book four is one of the weakest chapters, I personally wouldn't have included it.

Puttng it context. That client was trying to warn people and teach others awareness of higher spiritual ways of living but people weren't listening and then during the session this topic of the back drop people came up. There's far too little information about this topic presented during the session to make any solid sense of it, you're left not having any clear sense of what they even are.

I would have liked to ask that client what that meant to her and what she took from it, maybe it was not meant to be taken as literally as Dolores took it. I gleaned the following message for the client from what was said; 'you're telling the wrong people, teach the others with a higher vibration who will listen, consider the rest of the people as a back drop, just energy.' More information would be required to make sense of other details mentioned.

I've quoted the parts from that chapter where the client describes the back drop people below -

"S: Yes. There's just so many in this room where the crystals are that choose a life or have a path. The rest of the people aren't sent here on a path.
D: What are their lives for then?
S: It's like a backdrop.

That was a strange statement. I had never heard that before.

D: What do you mean?
S: In a movie they paint something around the person so there's a backdrop.
D: So the others don't realy have purposes?
S: Right. They come to live, breathe, work and die.
D: Is there any hope that they might find a path, or are they a different kind of soul?
S: They didn't choose. They're just here to be part of the backdrop. They're slaves. They're slaves that go from one star system to the next and they are used as a backdrop.
D: Just to be there for these persons with a purpose.
S: Yes. For you to learn, to stay on your path, you have to have these other people in your way, living beside you, but you're here for a lesson and they're here for a backdrop.
D: Yes, but sometimes they create problems, to try to pul you off your path? (Yes) Is that part of their purpose, to distract you? (Yes) But when you're in your body, you don't know al these things, do you?
S: Not all light beings are the light source. They're just here as energy to help us with our lessons, to create chaos or to work or just to live. Certain beings go to learn the lessons for the light Source. It's like you're just a higher being.
D: Then the other ones, they don't evolve to become higher beings?
S: No, they're just energy. Like making a movie where they use extras."


"S: Time is short because of these lower beings. All they want to do is hurt each other. They want to destroy each other. They want to destroy the land, which hurts the animals, the trees and the water. And in short, you have to get to the youth so they can spread the words and help heal the planet.
D: The adults are not going to be able to help?
S: The higher source adults. The others have gone from doing their jobs as backdrops to being angry. They want to be angry at somebody or something and all they want to do is kill ... kill or hurt. (She winced in pain again.)"


"S: Just talk to the ones with the higher life source.— Everything is speeding up. There's less time. That's why we all had to come here. There's less time. We have to save the planet.
D: I've heard there are some that are not going to be able to be saved.
S: No. The backdrop people, but they're angry.
D: The vibrations are changing. So the backdrop people will stay with the old Earth? (Yes) And that's why they're angry?
S: Yes. It's like they're acting and they got a script and they are playing this part, and their part is to destroy this planet."


"D: So as the Earth goes through all the changes and catastrophes, there will be many people dying.
S: Yes, yes. There will be a lot of that. (Matter-of-factly.)
D: But they choose this before they come in anyway?
S: No, not so much choose. They're kind of like slaves. They're taken from one place to another to do whatever they need to do there because they are just energy."

[Mike]

Thanks Rach:happythumbsup:

that's helpful. it's clear that Dolores asks some leading questions, which may have distorted the msg a little.

their purpose - backdrop people - is so vague as to be almost meaningless.

i know we require relativity here to fully experience our spiritual essence. maybe the so called backdrop people are just providing us with more things to be in relation to...if that makes any sense. maybe their purpose is to speed up the process of evolution, by making us encounter more circumstances and "people", quicker.

who knows?

it sounds like something out of a philip k. dick novel! this weird stuff has always appealed to me, but i've always taken it with a grain of salt...i'd encourage others to do same.

what's sort of interesting though is that the british man who is presenting with her, and claims to not read her books, has arrived at a similar idea..although his 'backdrop people' are slightly different

[TomKat]

S: They're kind of like slaves. They're taken from one place to another to do whatever they need to do there because they are just energy."

Children of a lesser god...

[Kryztian]

Thanks for Rachel getting the text on here. It always gives us a clearer perspective on what we are talking about. Do you remember which volume of "Convoluted Universe" this is from? I believe Dolores published four volumes and there is a posthumous one coming out or perhaps it is in print now.

It's also important to note that this information came to Delores through her clients, people who were in a hypnotic state and were relating information about their past lives not only as humans but as other life forms, and not just here on earth. Also there is information about the times between lives.

I vaguely remember Dolores talking about "The Backdrop People" in a video. Even she seemed to be somewhat bemused by the idea. But I think she also felt that "they" felt this was a concept we needed to know about and that it was her job to get the information out there.

[lake]

Hi Kryztian....I think Rachel may have said book 4 and Cannon was mentioned in the Pre-Birth Plan thread (so in-between lives) and do you mean another video except the one in the opening post?

Hope that helps

[Valerie Villars]

That whole idea of "back drop" people was very clearly shown in the movie "The Truman Show". They were real people, but only there in Truman's life to move the story along.

Tomkat, when I first experienced this concept "Children of a Lesser God" is exactly what I thought and I was horrified for them. I was very sad and upset for a while.

Whether that is literally true or not, I cannot say. But I was shown and lived something along those lines for a brief time. To say it was a paradigm buster is an understatement.

[lake]

Personally....I consider that many are refusing to consider the blatantly obvious concept that you are within a 'war'!

That you do not wish to entertain said idea, even though if you tie together 'current' threads....it will smack you in the face.

[Valerie Villars]

I know that now. The battle is through us. The ones here now are the best and the brightest.

[lake]

Valerie....I disagree. Sorry.

The 'ones' 'left'.......are the most able to comprehend violence and hold within them the 'justice' required, they can 'deflect' demonic nature and use it as their own and they can consider that they are not so VERY important upon this realm!

That the physical being is nought but awareness brought into being, via individualised perception, which is required in order to assist another....Earth.

And this is 'on topic'....It is just not skin deep....

[greybeard]

Personally....I consider that many are refusing to consider the blatantly obvious concept that you are within a 'war'!

That you do not wish to entertain said idea, even though if you tie together 'current' threads....it will smack you in the face.

We are at war because we are confrontaional--most have not realized the concept that you can not sort a problem at the same with same level of energy thatit was created. Probably an inacurate quote.
Dolores spoke of separation--the good moving on, the others staying behind.
No battle --fight not necessary--if you believe her.

Chris

[Valerie Villars]

Valerie....I disagree. Sorry.

The 'ones' 'left'.......are the most able to comprehend violence and hold within them the 'justice' required, they can 'deflect' demonic nature and use it as their own and they can consider that they are not so VERY important upon this realm!

That the physical being is nought but awareness brought into being, via individualised perception, which is required in order to assist another....Earth.

And this is 'on topic'....It is just not skin deep....

Cool. I meant the best and the brightest for the task at hand, as it stands on Earth in this time period. You wouldn't send an ant to battle an anteater.

[Kryztian]

Thanks Lake, I have read parts of book 4 and all of 3 and do remember "The Back Drop" people. Delores has had many, many, many of her appearances put on Youtube so this is probably not the only time she has talked on the subject.

I prefer to think of "The Backdrop People" as a concept that helps us understand how our world is a matrix, how there isn't an objective reality, at least not the way we conceive of it in our 3D Cartesian space model. The items we focus our intent on have much more reality than what we see in our peripheral vision. On the other hand, I absolutely believe in the reality of other people: for example, I believe that what I am writing now is going to be read by real, intelligent people, including one real flesh and blood individuals who uses the user name "lake" on this forum. Please don't tell me that you are a backdrop person!?!?! :ROFL:

Dolores mentions that the many people you see in a crowd or at the airport, in your peripheral vision, maybe back drop people. But what if you suddenly focus on someone you see peripherally and interact with them and get to know them. Does that mean that they are no longer backdrop people, or never were?

A lot of the strange ideas in "Convulted Universe" seem illogical when you start to think them out in detail. But they do make you think!

[Joe Akulis]

Mike, you caught right on to one of the problems I have with some of Dolores' later work.

The more she learned, and the more she interacted with all these "subconsciouses" and ETs speaking through the subconsciouses, the more she would do like you pointed out. Ask leading questions. In fact, a lot of times, she would make a characterization, or summarize something, and then say, "Is that right?"

A big property of the non-physical realm she is reaching into is that it's immediately responsive to thought. And there seems to be times where it feels like all she's getting is what she's asking for. It's a problem that a lot of visionaries and channelers have run into over the years, sometimes quite dreadfully. A connection with a non-physical entity can start out very pure and genuine, and after a while the connection and the information passed along can deteriorate due to changes in the experiencer's intentions and reasons for wanting to come back for more.

[TomKat]

I know that now. The battle is through us. The ones here now are the best and the brightest.

To paraphrase Neil Young "this chemtrail's for you!" :-)

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A big property of the non-physical realm she is reaching into is that it's immediately responsive to thought. And there seems to be times where it feels like all she's getting is what she's asking for. It's a problem that a lot of visionaries and channelers have run into over the years, sometimes quite dreadfully. A connection with a non-physical entity can start out very pure and genuine, and after a while the connection and the information passed along can deteriorate due to changes in the experiencer's intentions and reasons for wanting to come back for more.

wiser words have not been uttered

[enfoldedblue]

I have been doing Beyond Quantum Healing hypnosis (Which is inspired by Dolores Cannons Qhht) sessions for while now. Today I finally took the leap and facilitated my first online session. Though many had reassured me that they worked extremely well, I had been a bit resistant to doing it as I really like the intimacy of the one on one experience. Well the session today was one of the most powerful and intense sessions I have ever had the privilege of being involved in.

The reason that I am posting this here is that the client's guide shared about the 'back drop people'. This was completely impromptu. I did not ask anything about this and neither had the client. She explained that the difference between active humans and backdrop humans was their ability to influence this reality. Active players have the ability to influence while the backdrop people don't. BUT what got particularly interesting was that she said that it wasn't that these backdrop people didn't have souls...it was that their actual beings were not embedded in this reality...they were for the most part spectators..who had come to witness this massive transformational period that the Earth is currently going through. These people are actually situated on ships that surround the planet and are projecting their consciousness into the backdrop beings. The part of their awareness that is on Earth is obviously not aware and in many ways are just going through the motions.

Anyway I just thought this was an interesting perspective to add to this discussion.

[Valerie Villars]

Enfolded, that is a very interesting perspective and may help explain some of the phenomenon of targeting, especially when one experiences "The Truman Show".

For me, when that happened, there were much fewer people in my world and they were either like walking dead or very much alive.

My point is that perhaps when one wakes up, one is impervious to the machinations of those manipulated beings and then no longer sees them.

Just a thought.

[Pam]

I have been doing Beyond Quantum Healing hypnosis (Which is inspired by Dolores Cannons Qhht) sessions for while now. Today I finally took the leap and facilitated my first online session. Though many had reassured me that they worked extremely well, I had been a bit resistant to doing it as I really like the intimacy of the one on one experience. Well the session today was one of the most powerful and intense sessions I have ever had the privilege of being involved in.

The reason that I am posting this here is that the client's guide shared about the 'back drop people'. This was completely impromptu. I did not ask anything about this and neither had the client. She explained that the difference between active humans and backdrop humans was their ability to influence this reality. Active players have the ability to influence while the backdrop people don't. BUT what got particularly interesting was that she said that it wasn't that these backdrop people didn't have souls...it was that their actual beings were not embedded in this reality...they were for the most part spectators..who had come to witness this massive transformational period that the Earth is currently going through. These people are actually situated on ships that surround the planet and are projecting their consciousness into the backdrop beings. The part of their awareness that is on Earth is obviously not aware and in many ways are just going through the motions.

Anyway I just thought this was an interesting perspective to add to this discussion.

Thanks for taking the time to share that experience, enfoldedblue. If what she is saying is accurate, why would many others talk about having an opportunity on earth being at a premium, why would the spectators be given preference over the experiencers? Also, how could you possibly live on this planet and not influence reality? That would mean that they are not subject to cause and effect. It would mean that they operate outside of duality. I believe there are so called enlightened ones that can do it, but certainly not a large group. Having an effect on reality not only means the big things but the tiniest of things, it is all interrelated. It defies logic.

[conk]

About all of us are backdrops. We are not connected to our source, we are dead alive. So we are backdrops with no impact whatsoever in this life.

This is a profound idea. The depth of truth is so far beyond understanding by most people in the world. Not saying I understand, but least I'm staring at it. :)

[Joe Akulis]

I don't want to be a backdrop. Switch me back! I want to live!

[enfoldedblue]

I have been doing Beyond Quantum Healing hypnosis (Which is inspired by Dolores Cannons Qhht) sessions for while now. Today I finally took the leap and facilitated my first online session. Though many had reassured me that they worked extremely well, I had been a bit resistant to doing it as I really like the intimacy of the one on one experience. Well the session today was one of the most powerful and intense sessions I have ever had the privilege of being involved in.

The reason that I am posting this here is that the client's guide shared about the 'back drop people'. This was completely impromptu. I did not ask anything about this and neither had the client. She explained that the difference between active humans and backdrop humans was their ability to influence this reality. Active players have the ability to influence while the backdrop people don't. BUT what got particularly interesting was that she said that it wasn't that these backdrop people didn't have souls...it was that their actual beings were not embedded in this reality...they were for the most part spectators..who had come to witness this massive transformational period that the Earth is currently going through. These people are actually situated on ships that surround the planet and are projecting their consciousness into the backdrop beings. The part of their awareness that is on Earth is obviously not aware and in many ways are just going through the motions.

Anyway I just thought this was an interesting perspective to add to this discussion.

Thanks for taking the time to share that experience, enfoldedblue. If what she is saying is accurate, why would many others talk about having an opportunity on earth being at a premium, why would the spectators be given preference over the experiencers? Also, how could you possibly live on this planet and not influence reality? That would mean that they are not subject to cause and effect. It would mean that they operate outside of duality. I believe there are so called enlightened ones that can do it, but certainly not a large group. Having an effect on reality not only means the big things but the tiniest of things, it is all interrelated. It defies logic.

Thanks for your interesting questions. The way i would see it there would only be a limited amount of active players required in this particular story. From a directors perspective the show would be chaotic if every single person in it had a key role in it. She described this has holodeck designed to assis people to learn and grow. Explaining that attrocites etc were part of the training narrative...the key being to use those experiences to expand and deepen, rather than allow them to bring us down.

So its not that spectators are given preference... its only that those extra roles are required in the simulation.

The other thing that she stated was that these extras are the ones that appear the deepest asleep...definitely not enlightened. The basically just go with the flow, follow the programming...never question. Basically just go through the motions like sleep walkers.

[Valerie Villars]

Just like the movie they are filming up the road. A few principles and a lot of extras. The extras perhaps are principles in their own movie story.

That was the impression I got while living it for a short while, but I have NO way of knowing for sure. It was just a certain understanding at a certain point in time.

[enfoldedblue]

Just like the movie they are filming up the road. A few principles and a lot of extras. The extras perhaps are principles in their own movie story.

That was the impression I got while living it for a short while, but I have NO way of knowing for sure. It was just a certain understanding at a certain point in time.

Yes that is it...none of us can say for sure. In my earlier posts on this thread my perspective was...basically that we are all the leads in our own stories and we all play secondary roles, or background roles in other people's stories.

What came through in the session yesterday was just another perspective..that was interesting for me.

[RunningDeer]

I was almost totally unfamiliar with Dolores Cannon up until a few days ago, when I ran into her while mindlessly watching youtube vids. All I knew was that she looks like every grandma I'd ever seen and wears fuzzy faded sweaters and likely smells of fabric softener and a hint of cheap perfume. She had also written books about waves of "volunteers" who had allegedly arrived from all over the universe to assist us in our little social experiment here. But, as it often does, one youtube video ended and tripped into another..and right as I was about to give it all up and go back to watching porn, I found myself involved with this strange but intriguing video about an alleged phenomena called "back drop people".

That thing you just did with your neck..tilting it to one side while furrowing your brow in utter confusion - that's what I did too. In all my years on the forum and reading old tattered paperback books from the occult section in my local used book stores,I'd never once come across this subject. Back drop people...wtf?

So this is what they are, and what they aren't:
They are not human. That seems like a good place to start. Cannon describes them as energy...energy that comes from all over the universe to masquerade briefly as bit-part characters in the play that is your life.

So you're at a concert, or a sporting event, or any place where there's a large crowd of people..an airport maybe. According to the fuzzy sweater wearing lady, a significant percentage of the people you see there are not quite real. They're just very convincing props.

Yeah, I know it's weird. According to Cannon and her channeled sources, there just aren't enough people in the world to fill in all the blanks as we pretend to be living our lives in what we're tricked into thinking is an unscripted world.

A large part of me thinks this is utterly absurd..it's the small part of me that is intrigued with such a weird, novel concept that is the inspiration behind this potentially regrettable thread. But be warned.. that same small part once talked me into a thread about the hollow earth. I'll take the risk though. We all have roles here; mine is not an intellectual one...that should be obvious by now.

Here's the Cannon video:

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Are 'Fake' People Living Among Us? | NPC's & Backdrop People Explained (13 min)




August 18, 2022


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Why is this even important? My own experience has shown me that i have interacted in my life with many people who are lacking some of the most fundamental things. The ability to think for themselves. The ability to even answer the simplest questions outside of their programmed scope. the ability to change their minds, their hearts. The ability to awaken to a greater truth. The ability for empathy. The ability for seeing a bigger picture. There’s a lot that these people that iIhave interacted with are not able to do.

They’re also often very negative people. They simply are complete programmed biorobots. Now it's crossed my mind more than once that these are not real people in terms of what we consider a true spirit. A human spirit. A higher consciousness. I don't mean to say this disrespectfully because i don't know what the reason for this is but the same thing that Dolores Cannon describes another describe I have experienced many many times.

I’ve actually put it to the test where I would walk up to someone that I would consider a backdrop person. Someone I would usually not talk to. They probably wouldn't even really come into my conscious field but I wanted to put it to the test and they weren't able to answer the most simple questions or even carry on a conversation. It was almost like knowledge was being simultaneously infused so they could at least carry on a conversation while I was talking to them.

[snip]

If we stick with the assumption that there truly is a control grid or a matrix that is imposed on this sphere that we live in which I do believe there is an artificial control grid. I can feel it sometimes even interact with it and sometimes transcend it.

It would make sense that there would be just like inserted into this control grid our structures and buildings and and other physical things that we see would also make sense that there would be beings that are there simply to fill up the picture. They could be AI robots. They could be holograms. I mean there's a number of things that they could be.

[snip]

We need to focus our attention from trying to wake up the vast majority of people which trying to wake up anyone doesn't work anyways. But in this awakening that we're all in, in shining our lights we might be much more effective if we focus on ourselves and our immediate surroundings, and the real people in our lives and the ones who actually seek to awaken themselves. Because people that are curious, interested and they say, ”I really need to open my mind here.” That's the ones where we have most success with and I think we should stick to that.

There’s all kinds of reasons to be more discerning also in some terms less trusting to everyone. I do believe the spiritual community. I do believe the truth community has been led astray on purpose to go into a non-discerning mindset where we don't trust our intuition. We don't trust our observation. We don't trust our judgment. All of these abilities we have for a reason and we’ve kind of been given this stamp where we're all one, one love, one beautiful thing. But I don't believe that this is necessarily 100% translatable into this realm.

[snip]

…but we are in a fairly isolated bubble here on earth that works in its own structures. And I believe discernment, judgment and coming from a true authentic place is very important.

[snip]

[Delight]

This is one of the most fascinating topics of all topics. Is this posted?

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[lunaflare]

This sounds like sentient AI :
no souls, just energy, holographic, backdrop people are here to teach us something.
According to Dolores Cannon and her research, this is what Life here on Earth is all about. We humans are on this path to further evolve.

So it seems that everything has its purpose on this great stage.
Then again, perhaps this is one of many perspectives.
Shakespeare, most fond of the world is a stage metaphor, put forth the notion; in Macbeth, that Life signifies nothing.

[Delight]

I think we are literally in a construct or simulation or simulacrum or whatever one calls it. I often have thought this is purgatory and I look at my life and all I have purged of what NOW I know is to be repudiated. This is MY knowing that at one time I did not know. What a luxury... to arrive at a "time" in life when I KNOW what is what I value.

This video is VERY interesting.

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[Casey Claar]

My own view and experience.
From experience in both this ( Earth-life ) field and many others--

We live - "and breathe and find our being" - in CONSCIOUSNESS, a consciousness field. <-- A player in any of the games-of-life is therefore played by either,

1. a soul, an individuated unit of consciousness, or
2. the Consciousness System itself

The latter of these in no way, shape or form indicates a retarding of a capacity to be aware, observe, conceptualize and communicate. It might seem this way to a 3D consciousness which is duly limited in its understanding of Larger Life ( lol ) but, again, is in no sense of the idea actually so. Using our cognitive faculties to go further than swimming around the circumference of an idea will bring us to its central axis if we let it. I highly suggest letting it.

Is the Consciousness System Itself required to first pass through a soul, an individuated unit of Itself to manifest in what we call physical space? It is not. Is the being-state of the one manifested "soul-less" in the sense of being devoid of the spark of life that in essence is what we refer to as being? It is not. It is in fact an even MORE direct representation of this. Is a large number of those in our peripheral experience the Consciousness System representing Itself? It is! Why would it expend energy where it is not needed? This would be a waste of Its expenditures <-- and It is not prone to this.

______________________


I am sorry that I have not read all the previous posts on this topic *prior to posting myself.

I will, though, go back and read the whole thread now.


Casey