You want to find the culprit??..Trace the JET FUEL

[rick]

I watched yesterday while washing our car, as planes flew back and fourth yesterday until their chemtrails flowed into a blanket over the entire Tucson sky.

It would have been a perfectly clear day...

It was nauseating. It made my heart hurt.

And, my sinuses swell! I Neti pot every day, otherwise I would NEVER have a clear nose. Almost everyone is complaining about their sinuses here. And guess what, its at its worst on engineered days like this.

You want to find the culprit of all this crap?

TRACE THE JET FUEL:

At some point in its production, metal salts or whatever crap is added. This mix pyrolizes at turbine combustion temperatures and makes that hazy crap we see.

I have been playing with airplanes for 35 years. having built a few turbine engines from scratch. If I wanted to do what they are doing, this is how I would do it. Think about it. It's so simple...

Just add to fuel. Poof! No fancy spray planes with tanks and nozzles (Although they do prob have them, they are not the main culprit IMO).

The main culprit is regular plain ole' airliners with fuel that has been spiked. You can control where is sprayed by fueling practices.

May creation have mercy on the individuals responsible for this tragedy.

[ripple]

I am happy to go along with Chemtrails even though I have never seen one here in God's Garden or met anybody who claims to have seen one .
So there is a small matter that puzzles .
Why would activity apparently not include the UK in this alleged northern hemisphere ( mostly ) plot ? Everything else seems to suggest that in all other matters ( US and UK ) we are joined at the hip. And brain . Why not when it comes to sky poisoning ? And I am not going to be influenced by a anecdotal story of a UK Chemtrail based on Aunt Matilda in Lincolnshire having seen clear evidence on one day , July 18 , 1983 .
And I am also puzzled that Americans and others have not gone to internal war over the matter if they have 'proof' that the population is being harmed and poisoned .
It will be no good any of you telling me that other countries are being used in the same way . America is supposed to be Democratic and the land of the free . So what are you doing about matters , apart from regularly mentioning it quietly ? What are you doing to lead the way ? What are you doing to shout and scream ? Incidentally , I mentioned the matter , en passant , to my Doctor neighbour recently and he unwittingly gave me a look which read , Cuckoo Brain .
Is there cast iron proof that estimated high atmosphere quantities of heavy metal nano particles are harmful ?
And even if you have satisfactory answers to all of these points , how valid is the separate argument that this necessarily combats the effects of global warming ( I thought that subject was dead and buried ) by reflecting back into space some of the incoming heat and particles naughtiness .
I write this as "Confused " from nature's storehouse in England .

[enigma3]

I sure wish the answer were that easy. Google chemtrail planes. The entire inside of one of those planes is set up to spray with tanks and pipes running everywhere.
The powers that be will not tell us what is in the mixture, but we now know of three. Aerosolized aluminum in almost nano particle size so the stuff floats to the ground, lithium, and barium. No doubt that is the proverbial tip of the ingredient iceberg (compare to fracking). And they claim it is all to prevent global warming. Total crock. Once again they are lying to us.
The satanists controlling this care not for destroying the environment. Thus the aluminum, which, over time will destroy the soil where only GMO seeds that are resistant to the aluminum will grow. The lithium dumbs down the population. The barium? Who knows.
However you cut the pie, the spraying is not kind to humans or the environment. Trump and Pence recently toured one of the planes. Trump remarked that he hopes to stop it someday.

[Satori]

I am happy to go along with Chemtrails even though I have never seen one here in God's Garden or met anybody who claims to have seen one .
So there is a small matter that puzzles .
Why would activity apparently not include the UK in this alleged northern hemisphere ( mostly ) plot ? Everything else seems to suggest that in all other matters ( US and UK ) we are joined at the hip. And brain . Why not when it comes to sky poisoning ? And I am not going to be influenced by a anecdotal story of a UK Chemtrail based on Aunt Matilda in Lincolnshire having seen clear evidence on one day , July 18 , 1983 .
And I am also puzzled that Americans and others have not gone to internal war over the matter if they have 'proof' that the population is being harmed and poisoned .
It will be no good any of you telling me that other countries are being used in the same way . America is supposed to be Democratic and the land of the free . So what are you doing about matters , apart from regularly mentioning it quietly ? What are you doing to lead the way ? What are you doing to shout and scream ? Incidentally , I mentioned the matter , en passant , to my Doctor neighbour recently and he unwittingly gave me a look which read , Cuckoo Brain .
Is there cast iron proof that estimated high atmosphere quantities of heavy metal nano particles are harmful ?
And even if you have satisfactory answers to all of these points , how valid is the separate argument that this necessarily combats the effects of global warming ( I thought that subject was dead and buried ) by reflecting back into space some of the incoming heat and particles naughtiness .
I write this as "Confused " from nature's storehouse in England .

All of these questions and more will be answered if you do any meaningful research on the subject. It does not take long to start getting information and some answers--of sorts.

I have no doubt that vast swaths of the planet are being sprayed with chemicals on a routine basis and have been for decades. The "what?" and the "why?" may remain unanswered questions, but the "fact" of the existence of the aerosol spraying is in my book undeniable. The "why" can generally be broken down into two groups: well-intended purposes designed to be beneficial, and not well-ended purposes designed to be harmful. Perhaps some combination of both. The latter view is of course nefarious and conspiratorial. In any event, the negative effects on humans, animals, fish, foul, and plant life is present regardless of whether the intent is good or bad. This gets into the "what?" of it all. As they say, what goes up must come down. The "how?" is typically via aircraft.

People in the USA and no doubt other countries who are trying to understand the issue, get reliable information and do something about it are met with a similar response as your doctor gave you, but much worse. Eye rolling, derision, personal attacks, loss of friends, family and employment, etc.... based upon a knee jerk reaction to deny the existence of aerial aerosol spraying of chemicals.

I see spraying taking place on a very frequent basis in New Mexico. Not daily, but it can go on for days at a time, stop for a period of time and then resume. (Yesterday, 1/20/19, was a very heavy spraying day over Albuquerque, NM. I've got video.) I've seen this go on for at least 20 years everywhere I have traveled in the US: New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, California, Utah, Nevada, Colorado, etc... I have more photos and videos than you can shake a stick at of these aircraft spraying.

I have photos of commercial airplanes traveling near other aircraft that are spraying. The commercial planes have contrails (condensation trails) of short length and limited duration. The trails disappear behind these planes within seconds. The other planes have long "chemtrails" that do not promptly disappear behind the plane. Rather, these trails linger for hours and spread out creating thin layers of "clouds." In addition, there are often multiple aricraft spraying and any given period of time and the flight paths of these planes that are spraying chemicals is haphazard and often marked by criss-crossing of flight paths, checkerboards patterns, V and X shapes, circles, 90 degree changes in flight paths, the spray being turned on as the planes come over a given area and then turned off after the planes have flown over the area....

This "chemtrail" activity does occurr and is to some extent regulated. For instance, in the US the federal government has regulations on the sprayng of aerosols by aircraft, as do many states.

So, to quote the title of videos you may want to view along with any other research you may do: "What in the World Are they Spraying?" and "Why in the World Are they Spraying?"

[Dennis Leahy]

I watched yesterday while washing our car, as planes flew back and fourth yesterday until their chemtrails flowed into a blanket over the entire Tucson sky.

It would have been a perfectly clear day...

It was nauseating. It made my heart hurt.

And, my sinuses swell! I Neti pot every day, otherwise I would NEVER have a clear nose. Almost everyone is complaining about their sinuses here. And guess what, its at its worst on engineered days like this.

You want to find the culprit of all this crap?

TRACE THE JET FUEL:

At some point in its production, metal salts or whatever crap is added. This mix pyrolizes at turbine combustion temperatures and makes that hazy crap we see.

I have been playing with airplanes for 35 years. having built a few turbine engines from scratch. If I wanted to do what they are doing, this is how I would do it. Think about it. It's so simple...

Just add to fuel. Poof! No fancy spray planes with tanks and nozzles (Although they do prob have them, they are not the main culprit IMO).

The main culprit is regular plain ole' airliners with fuel that has been spiked. You can control where is sprayed by fueling practices.

May creation have mercy on the individuals responsible for this tragedy.
I have seen on a number of occasions (live, with my eyes, not just me looking at a photo) where the chemtrail stripe broke (no trail, at all) and then restarted, sometimes several times. Jet engines don't sputter, so I figured that had to be spray equipment faltering. I have seen it in the dead of winter, when temperatures at the ground are below zero F° (so you know the sky at 30,000 is even colder), and there are no 'warm' or 'dry' patches in the sky (like the helpful disinformation agents at contrailscience dot com will try to convince you.)

edit...

Actually, I don't think the ones that fly over my house fly at 30,000 feet. They appear bigger than any commercial passenger jet, so, logically, they are closer. Maybe 20,000 ft?

They always have white bellies.

I live in Duluth, MN - a city with a small airport with a handful of flights a day. But, what marks the chemtrails so strikingly above Duluth, is that Duluth is sort of not on the way to anything. hahaha It's almost 3 hours away from the big airport traffic in the 'Twin Cities' (Minneapolis/St.Paul), and that airport (MSP) has lots of flight patterns going east and west and south... but not north, where Duluth is, and not to any Canadian cities north of Duluth. In short, there is no logical reason for the jets to be flying where they are - they are not on commercial routes. I have seen as many as 6 chemtrails simultaneously in the sky over my house, and have bothered to photograph skies several times with 3 or more.

I have never seen a trail out of any commercial flight that pointed to or away from the airport, and that includes in winter where ice crystals form on your beard when you breathe. I have never seen a trail out of the military planes that fly around here either. Only the jets that are flying lower and appear bigger (because they are closer), and that have white bellies, disperse the airborne chemistry.

[TomKat]

That is a normal occurrence where I live. Military planes start in one corner of the horizon and then blanket the whole area. Fly out of site, turn around and come back spraying parallel to the previous spray. It's not jet fuel, though. It's coal ash, according to PhD physicist J Marvin Herndon.

[ceetee9]

I'm not from the UK and certainly won't pretend to know what is, or is not, going on above your heads there, but if you have a lot of cloudy days there (and spraying is carried out on those days) I would expect that that would make it difficult to see any Chemtrails (aka persistent contrails).

You ask a lot of good questions ripple and I don't pretend to know the answers. However, I can tell you that there is a great deal of credible evidence, including government patents, FOIA documents, university and scientific studies, chemical analysis of soil, water and vegetation samples taken after spraying occurred, testimony from whistleblowers, countless videos and photos and many other books, articles and documents, that shows that geoengineering has been ongoing for at least the last 30 years.

I'd suggest you check out Dane Wigington's GeoengineeringWatch.org (https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/), the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science and Technology Hearing Report on Geoengineering (https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-111hhrg53007/pdf/CHRG-111hhrg53007.pdf) and the 1991 Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming patent (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,003,186.PN.&OS=PN/5,003,186&RS=PN/5,003,186) for starters, if you haven't already.

As for whether the chemicals in the spraying are harmful, there are myriad articles and medical and scientific papers proving aluminum-induced neurotoxicity and the mood altering, thinking and behavior effects of lithium and barium can cause muscle weakness, breathing difficulties, increased blood pressure, heart rhythm changes and much more.

I hope this helps.

[badmotorfinger]

On this subject, I thoroughly recommend bypassing Dane "Bechtel" Wiggington & associated fearporn™, and instead become familiar with Jim Lee's work with hard facts & documentation. And yes, fuel is certainly part of the shenanigans btw.

https://www.youtube.com/user/R3zn8D/videos

Jim's work on his websites is outstanding: he has taken the time to code overlays showing NEXRAD stations, nuclear installations, ionospheric heaters etc. over 3D global maps:

http://climateviewer.org/

Oh, and don't forget my snappy hashtag #KeepSmilingRegardlessItPissesThemOffNoEnd ;)

[scotslad]

Slightly off at a tangent, but interesting none the less..

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[Sunny-side-up]

rick
I watched yesterday while washing our car, as planes flew back and fourth yesterday until their chemtrails flowed into a blanket over the entire Tucson sky.

It would have been a perfectly clear day...

It was nauseating. It made my heart hurt.

Same here rick :(

I live in the UK.

I live under the flight path to Heathrow airport and see hundreds of planes coming and going, just minutes after each other.
Then also flying around and around are the planes playing cats cradle in the sky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%27s_cradle

Never have a clear healthy looking sky here for long, never even actual have a sky here for long, just what looks like a depressing/upsetting smog bank above my head.

[Bubu]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel!
I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:

[Ernie Nemeth]

Here in Toronto the weather manipulation continues almost daily. Depending on season, the skies get filled with various types of unnatural cloud formations. Right now we see evidence of manipulation further south than during summer months, for instance.

[Praxis]

I sure wish the answer were that easy. Google chemtrail planes. The entire inside of one of those planes is set up to spray with tanks and pipes running everywhere.
The powers that be will not tell us what is in the mixture, but we now know of three. Aerosolized aluminum in almost nano particle size so the stuff floats to the ground, lithium, and barium. No doubt that is the proverbial tip of the ingredient iceberg (compare to fracking). And they claim it is all to prevent global warming. Total crock. Once again they are lying to us.
The satanists controlling this care not for destroying the environment. Thus the aluminum, which, over time will destroy the soil where only GMO seeds that are resistant to the aluminum will grow. The lithium dumbs down the population. The barium? Who knows.
However you cut the pie, the spraying is not kind to humans or the environment. Trump and Pence recently toured one of the planes. Trump remarked that he hopes to stop it someday.



You are gonna go ahead and have to give me a source on this. This just sounds like Q ANON bs to me. How do you know they toured one of these planes? How do you know they want it to stop?

[Frenchy]

Edit :-
Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel! ...

Greetings All !
Bubu, very sharp of you to pick this up ! I’ve worked in Haulage when ‘ Adblue ‘ became compulsory.
Although I read the literature, I couldn’t accept that the reduction in Nitrogen-Oxide, [or whatever it was !], was significant.

So, before the Paris Conference [GW ] I emailed Olga Raffa of Chemtrails UK, to ask if they had a view on Adblue, whether Nano-Particules were in it ? I never had a reply, but, this might have been ‘cos I suggested these Conferences on ‘ Global Warming ‘, were just a lot of ‘ Hot Air ‘ ...

Perhaps, that didn’t go down to well.... Also I was sceptical of her accomplice , because of his name...
I mean what type of parent would call their child ‘ Max Bliss ‘ ?

Quote from their ‘ about us ‘page...

“Occasionally misunderstandings and misfirings have and still do occur between activists – for this is clearly an all encompassing and highly charged issue with which humanity has never before had to face – sometimes causing passions to flare from misunderstandings and misfirings to ensue. We have taken the line that we will never undermine anyone out there either publicly nor privately trying their best to raise awareness no matter how large or small their contribution. “

I put this here, ‘cos one Activist they turned against was David Lim, and even Reading Uni, turned against him too. I know nothing negative about David, AND, given the Declass on the Testing of Toxins on the British Public, South English Coast, AND the Tragedy the Gov’t + R.A.F., causd when they killed 35 people in the 1952 Lynmouth floods they created, perhaps Chemtrails UK is a cointelpro ?


https://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com

Final note about chemtrail Project UK.
They strangely link to this report in New Scientist !


https://www.newscientist.com/article/2101611-chemtrails-conspiracy-theory-gets-put-to-the-ultimate-test/


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39754

[Sunny-side-up]

A list of possible chem trail capably converted planes:

https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB761GB761&q=pictures+of+chemtrail+planes&tbm=isch&source=univ&ved=2ahUKEwiopaTtq4LgAhWRQhUIHa6FAPgQ7Al6BAgEEBs&biw=1244&bih=819

[Bubu]

Edit :-
Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel! ...

Greetings All !
Bubu, very sharp of you to pick this up ! I’ve worked in Haulage when ‘ Adblue ‘ became compulsory.
Although I read the literature, I couldn’t accept that the reduction in Nitrogen-Oxide, [or whatever it was !], was significant.

So, before the Paris Conference [GW ] I emailed Olga Raffa of Chemtrails UK, to ask if they had a view on Adblue, whether Nano-Particules were in it ? I never had a reply, but, this might have been ‘cos I suggested these Conferences on ‘ Global Warming ‘, were just a lot of ‘ Hot Air ‘ ...

Perhaps, that didn’t go down to well.... Also I was sceptical of her accomplice , because of his name...
I mean what type of parent would call their child ‘ Max Bliss ‘ ?

Quote from their ‘ about us ‘page...

“Occasionally misunderstandings and misfirings have and still do occur between activists – for this is clearly an all encompassing and highly charged issue with which humanity has never before had to face – sometimes causing passions to flare from misunderstandings and misfirings to ensue. We have taken the line that we will never undermine anyone out there either publicly nor privately trying their best to raise awareness no matter how large or small their contribution. “

I put this here, ‘cos one Activist they turned against was David Lim, and even Reading Uni, turned against him too. I know nothing negative about David, AND, given the Declass on the Testing of Toxins on the British Public, South English Coast, AND the Tragedy the Gov’t + R.A.F., causd when they killed 35 people in the 1952 Lynmouth floods they created, perhaps Chemtrails UK is a cointelpro ?


https://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com

Final note about chemtrail Project UK.
They strangely link to this report in New Scientist !


https://www.newscientist.com/article/2101611-chemtrails-conspiracy-theory-gets-put-to-the-ultimate-test/


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39754

While in a public place with lots of smoking cars it occurred to me. "what a convenient way to spray people with bad chems especially that they own oil refineries". But you know people seem to have an aberration to simple things like the truth can never be that simple. So jet fuel is a more believable one. also I have notice many times that when it is in the jeans pocket they say its in the bag. a convenient way to make people look away from the real culprit. So when I read jet fuel I say " there it goes". and of course those who point us to the wright path are experts, had the best credentials on the subject and should be believe. Beware of experts on forums they turn out to be trolls more often than not.

[Andre]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel! I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:
Bubu, the spraying is designed to impact the atmosphere so car fuel makes no sense. Also, it would be easily detectable. Very few activists have the resources to fly at 30,000 ft and take samples, and that is yet another reason why stratospheric aerosol spraying has remained covert for so long.

[Andre]

I watched yesterday while washing our car, as planes flew back and fourth yesterday until their chemtrails flowed into a blanket over the entire Tucson sky. It would have been a perfectly clear day... You want to find the culprit of all this crap? TRACE THE JET FUEL. At some point in its production, metal salts or whatever crap is added. This mix pyrolizes at turbine combustion temperatures and makes that hazy crap we see. I have been playing with airplanes for 35 years. having built a few turbine engines from scratch. If I wanted to do what they are doing, this is how I would do it. Think about it. It's so simple... Just add to fuel. Poof! No fancy spray planes with tanks and nozzles (Although they do prob have them, they are not the main culprit IMO). The main culprit is regular plain ole' airliners with fuel that has been spiked. You can control where is sprayed by fueling practices. May creation have mercy on the individuals responsible for this tragedy.

Rick, thanks for the info on "pyrolizing". I live about 1.5 hours west of the Australian coastline. IN the middle of no-where really. I've been observing the skies for years and it's become so bloody obvious! We have two commercial flight paths that are visible. These planes are flying between capital cities and are clearly visible. And then there are the regular spray planes that do not use these flight paths and do not appear on Flighttracker because their transponders are turned-off. Anyone that is not already doped on flouride, sugar, vaccines and so forth can connect those dots --

Plane spraying = spray does not dissipate = transponder turned-off = plane identification concealed.

As for the jet fuel, I've used a telescope and observed commercial airlines using adulterated fuel to assist with the global spraying program. This includes Jetstar, Virgin Airlines and Qantas here in Australia. It's clearly a much easier way for them to get that crap up in the sky so it's a no brainer really.

[Bubu]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel! I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:
Bubu, the spraying is designed to impact the atmosphere so car fuel makes no sense. Also, it would be easily detectable. Very few activists have the resources to fly at 30,000 ft and take samples, and that is yet another reason why stratospheric aerosol spraying has remained covert for so long.

Oh.. but the OP is complaining about his sinus not the weather. But lets talk about weather manipulation can you give us some reasons why would they manipulate the weather and how does it benefit them if there is any. The way I see it they are spending a lot of efforts on this and weather barely changes here. It still rains most of the times at night and sunny during the day. I did not see any explanation so far that's worth exploring perhaps you can give us one. we know that they are spraying something from the plain but weather manipulation as an explanation just dont add up. So is it a cover for something.

[Trisher]

I am happy to go along with Chemtrails even though I have never seen one here in God's Garden or met anybody who claims to have seen one .
So there is a small matter that puzzles .
Why would activity apparently not include the UK in this alleged northern hemisphere ( mostly ) plot ? Everything else seems to suggest that in all other matters ( US and UK ) we are joined at the hip. And brain . Why not when it comes to sky poisoning ? And I am not going to be influenced by a anecdotal story of a UK Chemtrail based on Aunt Matilda in Lincolnshire having seen clear evidence on one day , July 18 , 1983 .
And I am also puzzled that Americans and others have not gone to internal war over the matter if they have 'proof' that the population is being harmed and poisoned .
It will be no good any of you telling me that other countries are being used in the same way . America is supposed to be Democratic and the land of the free . So what are you doing about matters , apart from regularly mentioning it quietly ? What are you doing to lead the way ? What are you doing to shout and scream ? Incidentally , I mentioned the matter , en passant , to my Doctor neighbour recently and he unwittingly gave me a look which read , Cuckoo Brain .
Is there cast iron proof that estimated high atmosphere quantities of heavy metal nano particles are harmful ?
And even if you have satisfactory answers to all of these points , how valid is the separate argument that this necessarily combats the effects of global warming ( I thought that subject was dead and buried ) by reflecting back into space some of the incoming heat and particles naughtiness .
I write this as "Confused " from nature's storehouse in England .

Really Ripple???? Never seen a chemtrail in the UK.?? They are all over the skies every day over the UK. The clouds are no longer proper clouds and all the food grown outside is contaminated with nanos. They don't rain chemicals and nanos down on us for our health. We have also had a ton more rippling HAARP frequencies on a daily basis. I am guessing you are not of the generation that knew pink and fluffy real skies.
Trisher

[Andre]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel! I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:

Bubu, the spraying is designed to impact the atmosphere so car fuel makes no sense. Also, it would be easily detectable. Very few activists have the resources to fly at 30,000 ft and take samples, and that is yet another reason why stratospheric aerosol spraying has remained covert for so long.

Oh.. but the OP is complaining about his sinus not the weather. But lets talk about weather manipulation can you give us some reasons why would they manipulate the weather and how does it benefit them if there is any. The way I see it they are spending a lot of efforts on this and weather barely changes here. It still rains most of the times at night and sunny during the day. I did not see any explanation so far that's worth exploring perhaps you can give us one. we know that they are spraying something from the plain but weather manipulation as an explanation just don't add up. So is it a cover for something.

While weather modification is real enough and is a well documented military objective, but it has never been the primary reason for a global spraying program. Weather modification is a convenient way to divert attention from any discovery of the elite's deeper agenda here. Why would they spray everywhere if they are trying to manipulate the weather all the time? It makes no sense. Stratospheric Aerosol Spraying is a stop gap measure to ameliorate the impact of ever increasing damage to the ionosphere that is being caused by the elite's continued use of ionospheric heaters like HAARP. The ionosphere used to protect us from dangerous UV and other solar radiation but their experiments on the ionosphere are thinning it so much that they have to spray the skies or we'd all fry. They've put themselves in a bind and can't stop because the damage has been done already and may be irreversible; at least for the time being. The real question we should be asking is what are they aiming to do by constantly blasting the ionosphere with billions of watts?

[Bubu]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel! I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:

Bubu, the spraying is designed to impact the atmosphere so car fuel makes no sense. Also, it would be easily detectable. Very few activists have the resources to fly at 30,000 ft and take samples, and that is yet another reason why stratospheric aerosol spraying has remained covert for so long.

Oh.. but the OP is complaining about his sinus not the weather. But lets talk about weather manipulation can you give us some reasons why would they manipulate the weather and how does it benefit them if there is any. The way I see it they are spending a lot of efforts on this and weather barely changes here. It still rains most of the times at night and sunny during the day. I did not see any explanation so far that's worth exploring perhaps you can give us one. we know that they are spraying something from the plain but weather manipulation as an explanation just don't add up. So is it a cover for something.

While weather modification is real enough and is a well documented military objective, but it has never been the primary reason for a global spraying program. Weather modification is a convenient way to divert attention from any discovery of the elite's deeper agenda here. Why would they spray everywhere if they are trying to manipulate the weather all the time? It makes no sense. Stratospheric Aerosol Spraying is a stop gap measure to ameliorate the impact of ever increasing damage to the ionosphere that is being caused by the elite's continued use of ionospheric heaters like HAARP. The ionosphere used to protect us from dangerous UV and other solar radiation but their experiments on the ionosphere are thinning it so much that they have to spray the skies or we'd all fry. They've put themselves in a bind and can't stop because the damage has been done already and may be irreversible; at least for the time being. The real question we should be asking is what are they aiming to do by constantly blasting the ionosphere with billions of watts?

Thanks, this explanation is worth considering, I will look closely into this.

[conk]

A real mystery, why people question or deny chemtrails. The practice is patented. It's on record in the Library of Congress. It's mentioned in Congressional legislation. The air and ground under the trails has been tested all over the world and the results are usually very similar. Barium, aluminum are consistently found. It's a fact chemtrails exist.

[Bubu]

There is a new thread about chemtrails and it says its purpose is "population control" that's simple enough and more believable by simple minds like mine. Thanks Adre at least I know where you're coming from.

[Andre]

There are many arguments out there about why they are blanketing the atmosphere with chemicals, but almost none of them stand up to scrutiny.

Eugenics as the purpose behind chemtrails is another flawed argument. The most common chemicals used in chemtrails are aluminum, barium and strontium. The simple fact is there are numerous other chemical combinations that would reduce the population at a reasonable rate. The current chemical composition used to spray the atmosphere might reduce the population by a billion people in about one or two hundred years. It's not like people a dropping dead from chemtrails. Doesn't make sense. I'm sure there is a better chemical cocktail than what they're using if their real aim was de-population.

And as for weather modification, I do wonder if anyone has every stopped to consider the possibility that a significant proportion of the weather modification agenda (other than what the military is doing with it) is for the purpose of controlling the side effects of chemtrails. And if so, it would imply that weather modification is not the aim. Cornell University has already produced a study that indicates chemtrails reduce precipitation. There would be numerous other side effects of a global spraying program. Why wouldn't the elite try to get the weather under control given the damage they're doing to our ecosystems and atmosphere? In which case, weather modification is NOT the aim of spraying.

[Hervé]

A real mystery, why people question or deny chemtrails.
[...]
It's a fact chemtrails exist.
Is it?

Or is it a case of jumping to conclusions from correlations to causations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation)?

Here is something to consider and factor in:


Incredible image captured by a Nasa satellite reveals the criss-cross patterns that ships leave in the CLOUDS (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/incredible-image-captured-nasa-satellite-11907268?unique_ID=636526656010037314)

By Shivali Best The Mirror (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/incredible-image-captured-nasa-satellite-11907268?unique_ID=636526656010037314), News (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/)

14:15, 24 JAN 2018
Updated 16:46, 24 JAN 2018


https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11907276.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/atlantic_amo_2018016_lrg.jpg
The stunning image reveals the impact that ships passing through the Atlantic Ocean have on the clouds above (Image: NASA/Jeff Schmaltz, LANCE/EOSDIS Rapid Response)


[...]

While the ship tracks may not look too long in the image, in reality, some stretch hundreds of kilometres from end to end.

The narrow ends of the clouds are youngest, while the broader, wavier ends are older.

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The above gives an inkling as to what happens when volcanic ashes and an increasing amount of meteoritic/cometary dust settle down... which may be the omitted, generating factor for persistent contrails; beside pollution.
The above picture also demonstrates that these persisting pollution trails:


first, are not "chemtrails" and,



second, are dependent on the overall meteorology systems: no trails in or out of Gibraltar heavy traffic sea lane.

So, the jumping of the gun from correlation to causation exemplified by that misnomer of "chem"trail instead of the more accurate "pollution" trail gets everybody misdirected and confused as to what is really occurring up there in the atmosphere as indicated by persisting jet condensation trails.

As shown by the persisting ship tracks, TWO ingredients are needed to generate these persisting tracks:


one is a layer of weather/ meteorological system of water vapor



the second is a "seeding" "dust" particle which turns water vapor into water droplets and the persistence of it as haze/clouds

Accordingly, persistent contrails are not necessarily evidence that the planes are "spraying" anything. It's only evidence that something is not quite right up there.

Since various ingredients such as barium and aluminum are found on the ground, one can indeed conclude it dropped from the skies but not necessarily out of jet engines: it could come down from way higher up than commercial jet altitudes... like volcanic ashes or cometary dust... or like from where the military keep playing with the ionosphere as a mirror to various EMFs so that when those "dust" particles fall down and meet commercial jet water vapor exhausts, the two necessary ingredients get mixed to generate persisting contrails...

In the end, I quite agree with the OP that sampling and analyzing jet fuels would bring in quite a needed disambiguation.


Related:
Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57696-Why-In-The-World-Are-They-Spraying-A-geoengineering-explanation-for-chemtrails&p=659165&viewfull=1#post659165)

Stratospheric sulfur injection (https://www.britannica.com/technology/stratospheric-sulfur-injection)

Bill Gates funds scheme to spray artificial 'planet-cooling' sulfur particles into atmosphere (https://www.naturalnews.com/036583_geoengineering_Bill_Gates_global_warming.html#ixzz21khOtHSM)

[rick]

I sometimes, like most of us, tend to focus on a single culprit, when the truth is it is probably much more complex than airplanes flying around with spiked fuel.

I listened to this very interesting podcast today, it covers a lot of out of sight things going on with geoengineering. Some very new information thats not talked about very much in these circles.

In summary it seems that there are all sorts of fingers in all sorts of weather pies, all doing their thing for all sorts of reasons. The end result is the weather diarrhea we have.

I guess the truth ( if we can ever come close to it!) is always more simple or complex than we imagine.

Well worth a listen:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vSIDt98Ih4

[rick]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel!
I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:

Funny I thought of that very thing the other day, too! Who knows what kind of **** they are putting into gasoline and diesel these days. It sure as hell is NOT the good old gas back in the day. Kinda close to good old gas today is Avgas (100LL Avgas, piston engine aircraft fuel). I love the smell of Avgas. Or Colemans "white gas" (liquid gas for camping stoves) is another pure form of gas like we used way back when. You want to do an experiment!? run your small engine with white gas, they run SO much better!

The crap we put in cars today called gas is NASTY. Besides the 20% or whatever ethanol (corn alcohol) it really smells like **** and must be loaded with all sorts of happy chemicals.

Not very scientific I know, but hey, smell can tell you stuff sometimes I guess :)

[Bubu]

Why jet fuel when you can spray it where people are and right under their noses. car fuel!
I too had seen with my own eyes live, up in the sky, on a number of occasions, spray being started and restarted from a jet. and I was thinking "Hu, the pilot stopped the engine and the plane continue to run without noticeable slow down for several minutes":ROFL:

Funny I thought of that very thing the other day, too! Who knows what kind of **** they are putting into gasoline and diesel these days. It sure as hell is NOT the good old gas back in the day. Kinda close to good old gas today is Avgas (100LL Avgas, piston engine aircraft fuel). I love the smell of Avgas. Or Colemans "white gas" (liquid gas for camping stoves) is another pure form of gas like we used way back when. You want to do an experiment!? run your small engine with white gas, they run SO much better!

The crap we put in cars today called gas is NASTY. Besides the 20% or whatever ethanol (corn alcohol) it really smells like **** and must be loaded with all sorts of happy chemicals.

Not very scientific I know, but hey, smell can tell you stuff sometimes I guess :)

We dont need science to realize that they are trying to reduce population and have poisoned or attempted to poison everything that the masses consume. Its open and common knowledge. They are not hiding it. What would prevent them from putting it in the gas?
Common senses are a more accurate references than scientific ones in these days. unless you yourself or someone you trusted do the scientific process.

[Bubu]

[QUOTE=conk;1271147]A real mystery, why people question or deny chemtrails.
[...]
It's a fact chemtrails exist.
Is it?

Or is it a case of jumping to conclusions from correlations to causations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation)?

Here is something to consider and factor in:


Incredible image captured by a Nasa satellite reveals the criss-cross patterns that ships leave in the CLOUDS (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/incredible-image-captured-nasa-satellite-11907268?unique_ID=636526656010037314)


NASA??? thanks not a very credible reference.

[Hervé]

[..]
NASA??? thanks not a very credible reference.
One can download the raw data for the picture and check for oneself if it's been altered... instead of using useless, unverifiable, irrelevant blanket statements!

[Bubu]

[..]
NASA??? thanks not a very credible reference.
One can download the raw data for the picture and check for oneself if it's been altered... instead of using useless, unverifiable, irrelevant blanket statements!

you mean we can not verify that NASA is owned by the cabal?

[Bubu]

It's not like people a dropping dead from chemtrails..

Can you imagine the implications if our babies are dying right after vaccine?

"There are many arguments out there about why they are blanketing the atmosphere with chemicals, but almost none of them stand up to scrutiny.

Eugenics as the purpose behind chemtrails is another flawed argument."

where are the hows and whys and the connecting the dots parts so our logic can at least verify it. Overall your argument is so weak I mean you are not making an argument that merits the discusion of subject you simply are making statements.

[rick]

Yeah I doubt we will EVER know exactly why they do what they do. One thing is clear they always do something that will result in several of their goals at one time. They love "two or three birds with one stone" dearly.

Another thing is clear that whatever runs this realm loves it exactly the way it is...if it didn't it would have slapped the techno satanic jews or elohim or whatever lizard club a long time ago. A few well placed lightening bolts could do wonders to adjust things.

. Our previous generations were totally asleep and niave and dumb and worried more about creature comforts and personal sexual encounters than anything else. Now it's our job to fix all this ****?! **** that. Like I said before whatever LIKES it this way.IT Loves everything polluted and bastardized.

I wonder if the "trails" are just **** junk crap fuel the planes are burning and nothing else. There is pride in very little products anymore, why should anyone who makes fuel give a **** what's harmful in it? Maybe they are burning waste chemicals that they otherwise would have to dump. I doubt that tho, they utilize EVERYTHING when it comes to profiting from it.

Just saw a big S drawn in the sky yesterday, warmed my heart lol. Don't stress about any of it!

[rick]

I started this thread a while ago. I can say now where I am that the spraying has been reduced since then. Solid blue for a month now. Actually, stratospheric aircraft emissions would prob be more accurate than spraying. Anyway...

Heard a weird thing about the "aluminum" spraying (metal salts), that it's for a missile defense. In conjunction with a HARP or NEXRAD they can literally make the air "hard" in front of a missile or reentry vehicle so it breaks up....

FWIW!

[onevoice]

The following is one example of how they are spraying the sky:

1891674079473840563
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1891674079473840563

[Johnnycomelately]

The following is one example of how they are spraying the sky:

1891674079473840563
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1891674079473840563

onevoice, is this vid real? It looks rétardé’d, pardon my French.

A number of things don’t look right. The dispenser units look flimsily mounted, unnecessarily aerodynamically draggy, and the left and right units are different. Also, according to the right seat pilot’s instrument display, the plane is in a 35-40 degree bank turn (pick one, L or R, Russian displays do it different). This would mean that g-loading would be significantly above 1g (say +30 % above, since a 45 bank gives ~+50%), yet the talking “person” acts like the plane is flying staight and level. This assumes the plane is in a level turn, which would be SOP but I can’t tell from the instruments, but it seems so from the looks out the windows. And, the plane appears to be flying above Cumulous or Cumulonimbus clouds, and then goes into them (“IMC”). This means hazard of turbulence, actually severe turbulence. So why us the “guy” not seatbelted into a chair, and his “cameraman” too?

If this is how the UAE supposedly does cloud seeding, as the vid says in text overlay, surely there must be published info about that. Cloud seeding, to try and make rain, is perfectly legal and common in many countries.


If it is real, how is it relevant to this thread, which is about additives to jet fuel?


If you have a rétardé condition, like folks who believe in any of the “flat Earth” theories, then please pardon my intrusion into your bubble of make-believe.

Cheers, and best of 2026 to you.