Miriam Delicado has a big story to blow the whistle on but she needs our help.

[Kryztian]

A few hours ago, Miriam Delicado posted to her Facebook account an extremely emotional and cryptic video. She clearly has a story and needs to blow the whistle, but is not ready to relate this directly yet. She made the following points:


She is not suicidal and that if something happens to her that it is not an accident (she emphatically made this point three times.)

She has a story that has nothing to deal with spirtuality (The Great Gathering, star beings, etc.) but that she stumbled across “something.” that “nobody wanted her to find”, something that “is really f***ed up. She shared this information with several other people.

She is looking for contacts to “really, really, really, high level people in media.” to disseminate this information. The best way to contact her is at her email miriam@bluestarprophecy.com


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If you aren’t familiar with Miriam Delicado, she has been interviewed several times by Kerry Cassidy on Project Camelot. Miriam works with tribal groups and believe that all of them have information that they have been holding on to for generations and that the time is coming for them to come together and come forth and bring this information into the open. She has also had some remarkable contact experiences too.

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[Soullight]

That was INTENSE!

Bless her heart! No ONE should experience anything that should cause them such distress and disgust. What on earth??

I will say I can’t comprehend her wanting to reach out to “The Young Turks”. They are such a sell out dangerous group, what is she thinking? Just the fact they wanted Killary to beat Trump exposes them.

Maybe Fade to Black or Coast to Coast or even Alex Jones would be better.

Totally felt for her. How awful! :(

[Tam]

Jesus.

Well, whatever the hell it is she saw, we can only speculate at this point. No use trying to pin down what it is.

This video will not go viral; she's too "cooky" for the mainstream to accept, and for anything to be viral, it has to be mainstream.

Nevertheless, I hope this gets out further.

That being said, I doubt having told others what she stumbled upon is enough. If she's in danger, one mysterious accident can easily become 3, 5, 10, or however many know of what it is she saw.

Hopefully she'll be ok.

Her best bet to get this viral is to get it viral on alternative websites. The 3 you suggested, Soullight, would work.

We're likely all on a watchlist just for having seen this. Proceed with caution. Don't do anything stupid.

[Agape]

Been there last year and situation ongoing ..
she’s been most probably warned by the “black ops”( who usually look like pretty white ops with nazi overtunes)that her disclosure time is over, her life is to be terminated or got an offer to compromise herself accordingly and even cry publicly for friends to help her out, the handlers of the operation may be physically close and in near total control of her environment for time being.

From what I’ve gathered : their primary intention is to intimidate and discredit genuine witnesses and submerge importance of credible data and testimonies.
They( whoever is behind the operation) target benevolent , harmless people, including females and children. They’re, at least partially of non-human origin and are guided by brute and deceptive manners.


It would be critical that someone with protective force , physical and psychological approach Miriam without hesitation and help her out.

While I don’t understand her personal circumstance , the agens movens behind her statement sounds freshly familiar.

Post scriptum: they can’t do anything that you’ve not given your soul agreement for, previously. But they can make everything look really bad.

[snoman]

there's little protection in verbalising an intention to release sensitive information.

sadly, this video can only act as a warning to the possibility of a sudden demise.

if there is information to get out there it needs releasing via a third party without a heads up.

listening to the content this feels like an alert for vigilance should miriam suddenly die.

hmm.. things are speeding up

[yelik]

Playing devils advocate - Interesting video that tells me nothing other than she's apparently come across something that has scared her and perhaps dangerous to her life and others if they know about it. That should get yourself some unwelcome attention from the alphabets

Would suggest she talks to Bill Ryan if this is a genuine plea for help

[Agape]

Contacts in media...let me think about it...it’s ok to contact the Guardian for example with important story. It only has to be 99% human.
Miriam said it’s not a spiritual story but if it’s at least partially of non-human ( ET) origin any MSM will read her history and discredit the story ( and Miriam).

Unless it’s water proof and fully human cause-effect disaster story ,
it’s not really advisable to approach MSM.

Most certainly talking to more experienced friend in this area would be safer.

[Pam]

Why on earth, if you have information that she feels is so important that someone would kill her over would you get on social media and ask for help finding “really, really, really, high level people in media.” to disseminate this information? That absolutely defies common sense. Wouldn't you do that discretely? Although she seems really sincere, she is either lacking common sense or her desire to gain more followers has taken precedence over her safety or she is a great actress.

[Tintin]

Well, if Kerry or Miriam are ever checking into Avalon (Kerry is still a member here) then quite possibly someone like Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept may be a good person to approach initially.

Remember, it was he and Laura Poitras who were selected by and approached by Edward Snowden, in confidence, which eventually resulted in Citizenfour and the NSA exposés.

His site here: The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/staff/glenn-greenwald/)
His contact details published very publicly on that site:

Email: glenn.greenwald@​theintercept.com
Twitter: @ggreenwald

[Kryztian]

Miriam mentioned talking to "The Young Turk" (a.k.a. Cenk Uygur ). Like everyone else in the MSM, this guy occasionally has good information, but I am pretty sure he is going to be absolutely not open to what ever she has to say. First, he is going to want other information to collaborate what ever it is, second, he is going to vet her and see that she has talked about her E.T. contact experiences and that will make her no longer credible, and third, even if by some miracle he 100% believes her story there are too many people in the newsroom that will talk him out of it.

I've heard stories of people trying to get Amy Goodman of Democracy Now on to 9-11 truth. She listens for a bit, then gives them one of fawning concerned looks like "you need to be medicated, you poor thing" and politely ends the conversation and walks away.

There is a reason these people have achieved these media positions, and it is because they can not be open to certain stories that involve the paranormal or anything too conspiratorial not out of the normal realm of topics they discuss. Even if they don't just care about themselves, they have too many stories that they feel are credible they still have to get out and they aren't going to stick their necks for just one story from someone who is just to "woo" for them.

I would strongly urge her to contact Kerry Cassidy who has a pretty large following in the Youtube/podcast world. Firstly, she will get the message out immediately (she won't have to take time and vet her) and enough of us will know to keep an eye out for Miriam. There are main stream journalists who read what is on this forum and follow Project Camelot too, and one of them might then venture into the story and bring it into the edges of the media. If she is onto a real story, there will be other witnesses and other information to support it, and it can get into the mainstream, it just takes time.

[DNA]

A good way to get offed is to say you have some high level information and then sit on it.

If you have some high level information then send it out there post haste.



Just ask Mr. X.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js1QMYWg54s



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4A0sRuhYvA

[ExomatrixTV]

"The Young Turk" (a.k.a. Cenk Uygur ) is in my humble opinion changed to a sell out & a shill! ... Do NOT Trust him anymore. He was good when attacking Bush & Wars etc. (The Good Old Days).

[ExomatrixTV]

What she does can/could be counter productive ... if she uses her own intelligence & strategy to spread key info all over the place without warning plus this video at the same time .. THAT would be real protection! ... Now if anything happens we still do not know why! ... I sincerely hope am wrong by the way.

[DNA]

"The Young Turk" (a.k.a. Cenk Uygur ) is in my humble opinion changed to a sell out & a shill! ... Do NOT Trust him anymore. He was good when attacking Bush & Wars etc. (The Good Old Days).


I'm backing this up. Cenk Uygur is a sell out schill, he is attacking and advocating the censorship of Alex Jones and he has been attacking Dinesh D'souza and blow horning D'Souza as a criminal when D'Souza was the victim of an Obama weaponized FBI and anyone unable to see that is someone who doesn't want to see it.

Cenk Uygur the "Young Turk" is as much of a mainstream sell out as CNN and is obviously on that payroll.

[Valerie Villars]

I can't link right now, but on her twitter and Facebook page she says she protecting thousands by not sharing certain details and by sharing details.

Why only thousands? There are billions of people in the world.

I don't know anything about this lady, but I wonder how you stumble onto something as serious as she says it is. I do believe her.

[RunningDeer]

I can't link right now, but on her twitter and Facebook page she says she protecting thousands by not sharing certain details and by sharing details.

Twitter (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) & Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/miriam.delicado/posts/10155690940241114)

https://i.imgur.com/h1saCF9.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Interesting twitter post (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) from January 14th.


https://i.imgur.com/FJzU5MM.jpg

[Kryztian]

she says she protecting thousands by not sharing certain details and by sharing details.

Why only thousands?

My best guess: Miriam does a lot of work with native/indigenous/tribal people - people who have wisdom traditions to pass down, people who practice shamanism, people who have made some form of contact. I believe she is based out of Vancouver, although, I am not sure.

She probably goes to a lot of Indian Reservations. Reservations have some status as being "autonomous" and not always subject to the same laws, and the same investigation processes, and for that reason, a lot of dark operations (corporations, factions within the CIA, etc.) sometimes like to utilize reservations, for example the Wackenhut Corporation conducted operations at the Cabazon Indian reservation near Indio, California to smuggle weapons and drugs into the U.S.

It's my guess that the "thousands" are the population at a reservation.

[DNA]

I don't know how to present this in a manner that is not offensive, so I will just present it.

I've never been able to extract the relevance of Miriam Delicado, If someone could tell me why she is relevant and or why I should go ahead and listen/endure one of her interviews I would really like to hear it.

I've tried a few times to listen to Delicado and there is something about her that honestly repulses me.

I for the life of me don't really know what it is, but listening to her is a combination of irratating, kind of like nails on a chalkboard and boring, kind of like watching paint dry, except I one time had a job that entailed watching paint dry and it was more entertaining than Delicado.

So, in all earnestness I appeal to those who have watched, listened and digested her information and can tell me why I need to push forward regardless of the personal discomfort it may cause me and work to attain the knowledge she may be able to offer.

Thank you.

[Kryztian]

In her Twitter feed, Miriam Delicado mentioned she was with the Hopi people about two weeks ago. The Hopi reservation is in North Western Arizona and is completely surrounded by the Navaho Reservation. It is home to just under 7,000 persons.

[enigma3]

She needs to create a "kill switch" in case she is offed/neutered. Get the information onto a memory stick or other medium and spread it among friends. Or put it in more than one safe deposit box. Or whatever. But GET IT ON SOME KIND OF BACKUP.

[Valerie Villars]

In her Twitter feed, Miriam Delicado mentioned she was with the Hopi people about two weeks ago. The Hopi reservation is in North Western Arizona and is completely surrounded by the Navaho Reservation. It is home to just under 7,000 persons.

That most certainly seems relevant.

[DNA]

In her Twitter feed, Miriam Delicado mentioned she was with the Hopi people about two weeks ago. The Hopi reservation is in North Western Arizona and is completely surrounded by the Navaho Reservation. It is home to just under 7,000 persons.


I live smack dab in the middle of the Apache, Navajo and Hopi Reservations.

I deal with these folks every single day. I work with them, hang out with them, I fish with them and I camp out with a few of them.

These folks don't have any reservations what so ever about letting you know how they feel about Non-Native folks.

Especially Non-Native folks knee deep in cultural appropriation.

If these folks had something earth shattering and or culturally significant to share, they would elect a Native Spokesman to present it.

They would not, ever, in a million freaking years hand this information over to a white person.

[Valerie Villars]

I didn't get the impression the native americans handed her anything.

If she identifies with them, and found something out, she may think she is protecting them. I really know nothing about her, other than the original video posted at the top of this thread in which she clearly is frightened.

[Clear Light]

Well, from what I've read, reading some of the comments to her video on her Facebook page, there's a suggestion (not confirmed by her) from one or two of her "listeners" that she's stumbled across (or uncovered) some kind of Facebook-hosted "child porn" situation (probably a "Closed Group") that she talked about previously they say ... but why this would require her to hire a Lawyer I don't know ?

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Twitter Link (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado/status/1090517549727580161)

But IF she managed to infiltrate said group then perhaps she now feels "at risk" if her identity became known to members of the group or if she "threatened" to expose it all eh ?

Here's the link to the video (https://www.facebook.com/miriam.delicado/videos/10155690010081114/)

Note : Her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/miriam.delicado) is now deactivated ...

[Kryztian]

Miriam is not about cultural appropriation. She has worked with a lot of people who do have wisdom secrets that have been passed on and do feel that the time may be coming to open up about some of them. For instance she has gotten some Dogon tribal elders (from Mali, a tribe famously protective of their secrets) to come on Youtube and a few of their many long held views on the world, and to say that the time may be coming to reveal more to the knowledge that has been passed down to them.

As for Native Americans keeping secrets from non-natives, they not only have some conflicts with the outside world, but also within the people s of their own tribes, especially when outsiders come into the tribe with money (just one example, the people who want to build and finance casinos) and start disrupting things. It's not impossible that Native American might share the problems of their reservation with outsiders, especially if they feel there tribal elders are being influenced by the wrong people and not doing the right thing.

In any event, we really do not know what this information is or how she obtained it.

[Valerie Villars]

Well, from what I've read, reading some of the comments to her video on her Facebook page, there's a suggestion (not confirmed by her) from one or two of her "listeners" that she's stumbled across (or uncovered) some kind of Facebook-hosted "child porn" situation (probably a "Closed Group") that she talked about previously they say ... but why this would require her to hire a Lawyer I don't know ?

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Twitter Link (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado/status/1090517549727580161)

But IF she managed to infiltrate said group then perhaps she now feels "at risk" if her identity became known to members of the group or if she "threatened" to expose it all eh ?

Here's the link to the video (https://www.facebook.com/miriam.delicado/videos/10155690010081114/)

Note : Her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/miriam.delicado) is now deactivated ...

It would be standard practice by the controllers, if she did stumble upon child porn or something similar, to try and frame and indict her for viewing same. Maybe that's why she needs a lawyer.

I am surprised at myself for speculating on this situation. I usually don't get into that end of digging, but her fright is very real.

[Frenchy]

Greetings all,
Just adding this in, illustrating how important it is to act calmly, with planning,{ as suggested by DNA, Enigma 3, & Peterpam... }; rather than shouting from the rooftops.....

Just as we might never know , what " France's first woman in space hospitalized after suicide attempt (http://thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Frances_first_woman_in_space_hospitalized.html) " was trying to warn about...

Admitted to Psychratic hosptial { prob her assisted ' Suicide 'went pear-shaped.}
but, now, she 's quiet with a €21 500 monthly salary. Her laboratory was burned out, three hours after her admission for 'treatment '

Sadly, we need to mistrust colleagues also...


Astronot Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper Collapses at conference - see her 'colleague ' smirking ... (http://Astronot Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper Collapses at conference - see her 'colleague ' smirking ...)

[Mike]

....aaaand there's the request for money:) (...along with the addendum: it'll cost thousands. In other words, make the donations hefty!)

Call me a cynic, but I was just waiting for it to come.

Something about this video kinda sickened me. I mean that literally. Watching it, I felt this strange sick feeling in my stomach.

I don't believe her. When I got halfway thru the thing and she still hadn't detailed the issue, I stopped watching. I had alarms going off on the base of my skull. I think it's all bullsh!t. It feels like your standard emotional manipulation tactic.

Yes, I saw how emotional she appeared to be, but I wasn't too moved by it. I think she's a pretty good actress.

My prediction: more bread crumbs will be dropped here and there, but nothing will ever be revealed (because there is nothing to reveal)..meanwhile Miriam will make a few xtra bucks from donations. Eventually, after some time has passed she'll make some vague statement claiming it's all been resolved, and oh, thank you all for your heartfelt support.. etc etc.

Hey if I'm wrong, I'm willing to be the asshole. I'll apologize and even donate to the cause. But all my instincts are telling me otherwise

[5th]

Mike may be right - I wouldn't be surprised.

The fact is that anyone who has truly gone through some spiritual evolution wouldn't be so upset at the thought of their impending death.

If you know for a fact that you are an eternal being, problems in one life cease to be that all consumingly important. I'm sure that there are a lot of us here who if we knew we might be eliminated wouldn't shed a tear or become over emotional...

[Olam]

Well I defy anyone to remain calm if you have seen graphic images, film of abuse on children.
Not that I have seen thank god, but I can imagine.
Nowadays live deaths on video seem kind of regular, there is lots of that going around, but if you ever seen any of this stuff, remember how you felt the first time before you became desensitized.
You cannot un-see these things and it can be traumatic.

[Cardillac]

as I don't "do" Twitter/Facebook all I can say to

this posting is that MD never revealed what it was that she became aware of that should frighten the masses-

but yet Miriam Delicado (in almost all interviews) is constantly uncontrolablly emotionally crying, sniffing, wyping tears, etc.-

so what was the purpose of this thread?

please inform-

Larry

[greybeard]

The name Miriam Delicado is familiar from way back--could be mistaken, it really was s ome time ago. but think she was doing a new age follow me thing.
5th is correct anytime spent seriously investigating spirituality will be aware we are not the body and death is only of the body--fear off death goes completely.
However one would not want the body to suffer a painful end.
I wouldn't want my car scratched either, but it would not be a big deal Chris smiling.

[Dennis Leahy]

I will note that Native women and children are at the top of the list of the exploited in the USA, and in Canada. It would not be difficult to imagine that this is human trafficking that has been uncovered. If the reports I have read are even somewhat true, the agencies tasked with protecting the vulnerable have been systematically infiltrated with people that are human traffickers.

As Valerie said about herself, I usually don't speculate on things like this, but even without watching the video my gut screams that this is a human trafficking issue. (Not porn - though likely they do distribute images of their victims as advertising.) Mainstream media will NOT go after human traffickers unless it is a very low-level operation and they are assured not to step on the toes of the major mobsters - politicians and businessmen - that also own and control the country and are not solely making money from human trafficking.

If mainstream media will break the info that she became aware of, no money is required; if they won't, money wouldn't help.

{edit, to change:
"...the list of the exploited in the USA."
to
"...the list of the exploited in the USA, and in Canada."
}

[RunningDeer]

Miriam Delicado's plea for help, (PLEASE LISTEN)

https://i.imgur.com/vX5x6Ne.jpg



It’s not a well organized way to ask for help. So far, only 323 people viewed the vid. I ran a YouTube search (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Miriam+Delicado) to see if there are other video copies. The most recent are from a year ago. The YouTube owner who uploaded has only has 298 subscribers. I noticed that Miriam doesn’t have a lot of interaction on her Twitter or Facebook pages (https://www.facebook.com/bluestarprophecy/).


https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

Someone inquired where she lives, it’s posted on her Facebook page (which is still up), that she’s from Vancouver, British Columbia. Her most recent post was on January 28th @ 11:07.

The one before that was on November 21, 2018:




The Great Gathering 501c3 Nonprofit needs your support for travel expenses as we build a project with the Hopi to bring them clean water, free of arsenic. We have had a total of $170 donated so far, but we need to pay for our team to travel to Hopi and pay for hotels, food, gas and expenses. PLEASE DONATE TODAY. WE NEED YOUR HELP to build this project. Thank you!

[Kryztian]

....aaaand there's the request for money:) (...along with the addendum: it'll cost thousands. In other words, make the donations hefty!)

Call me a cynic, but I was just waiting for it to come.



At the time I posted this, she had not mentioned the legals costs. When I put in the title of the thread "needs our help" I meant:

1) Needs help making media contacts to get this story out there. (Sounds like as of this morning she has a plan of action and this is taken care of.)

2) Needs us to know she feels threatened as a whistleblower. I think we all understand how dangerous it is to have information that "someone" does not want out there. Really all that is helpful at this point is our attention.

Yes, we've seen lots of fakes and frauds here at Avalon, some of them unmasked and disgraced, some of them still telling an unprovable story courtesy of your donations to their Patreon account. (I won't name names, you probably know who they are.) If you did want to make a donation (again, this is not what I am urging) I would wait until she does get her story out there and make your judgement then.

Again, I will say that part of who Miriam Delicado is, is a whistleblower before this happened (see her interview with Kerry Cassidy in the first post of this thread). Also, if you do a search on her name you will see that her name pops up in 88 different threads.

I am not a dedicated follower of her work, but I can say I have seen her many times speaking calmly, intelligently and comfortably before the camera. This is a different Miriam Delicado on this video. If this is some prank for cash on her part, then she has spent her whole career preparing for it and is about to sabotage the credibility and relationships she has built up over several decades. It is a possibility that this is fraud, although I think it is highly, highly unlikely.

[RunningDeer]

This was on her FB page (https://www.facebook.com/bluestarprophecy/) as well. Could be the reason why she needs a lawyer. Could someone have opened a FB account under her name?

Miriam Delicado Public Figure

November 2, 2018




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https://i.imgur.com/7IWgHq8.jpg

[Cardillac]

but yet Miriam Delicado (in this latest posting) did not concretely state what she was blubbering about-

or did I miss something?

Larry

[Valerie Villars]

but yet Miriam Delicado (in this latest posting) did not concretely state what she was blubbering about-

or did I miss something?

Larry

No, she didn't. She is very obviously freaked out and scared that she saw or heard something she wasn't supposed to and just like anyone who knows anything about whats going on, she seems aware that it is a very dangerous to her thing to know. That's what drew my attention, not her plea for money.

She seems to be teetering between just knowing and knowing AND speaking out about it.

[Clear Light]

This was on her FB page (https://www.facebook.com/bluestarprophecy/) as well. Could be the reason why she needs a lawyer. Could someone have opened a FB account under her name?

Oh, the FB account I referenced earlier (that is now hidden / unavailable / deactivated / deleted) is linked from her Twitter account (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado) numerous times going back to as far as March 2018, see here (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado/status/976199183861350400) but the Twitter link I originally clicked on to view her video from Facebook (before it was copied onto Youtube) is this one here (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado/status/1091226633284059136).

Here's a screenshot of her Twitter showing in the Orange Rectangles the URL of the non Public Figure Facebook account :

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In other words I'd say it very much looks like an Authentic account !!!

BTW : There was over 1600 comments to the FB video (and 1000's of viewings) to attempt to wade through of which I probably read just the first few hundred. I wanted to view the "Oldest" messages first but that meant "scrolling backwards" through screen after screen with a delay between each download from Facebook to get to the beginning of the comments :facepalm:

[Kryztian]

but yet Miriam Delicado (in this latest posting) did not concretely state what she was blubbering about-

or did I miss something?



Larry, In the very first post on the thread I bullet pointed the main points of her video. The third point is no longer relevant since (per Running Deer's post) she has decided how to get her story out there.

I think most of us on Avalon understand that there are whistleblowers out there and that there lives are sometimes in danger. In this case she is claiming that her life and the that of "thousands" are threatened, and that there are also some ugly misdeeds which are to be revealed. I think many of us can imagine that it could be quite difficult to be emotionally calm during these incidents.

[Valerie Villars]

but yet Miriam Delicado (in this latest posting) did not concretely state what she was blubbering about-

or did I miss something?



Larry, In the very first post on the thread I bullet pointed the main points of her video. The third point is no longer relevant since (per Running Deer's post) she has decided how to get her story out there.

I think most of us on Avalon understand that there are whistleblowers out there and that there lives are sometimes in danger. In this case she is claiming that her life and the that of "thousands" are threatened, and that there are also some ugly misdeeds which are to be revealed. I think many of us can imagine that it could be quite difficult to be emotionally calm during these incidents.

You don't just have to be a whistleblower. You sometimes have to be simply getting too close to the truth. It's all the same.

[Dennis Leahy]

OK, now I watched the video. Those are real emotions, not acting.

What do you you call the time after recognizing/realizing/seeing something horrific, after the initial shock blast, and the secondary shock waves, a cascade of further waves, that leave you stunned and reeling and panicking and confused and fearful and then finally, flat-line empty... and after you've pulled yourself together out of that, and speak, what is that? PTSD-affected speech? That's the vibe that I get. She obviously has vlogged before and wasn't uncomfortable to be on camera - maybe that is what Mike read as acting.

I have something beyond an intellectual best guess feeling that my initial, instinctual guess is correct. Note that she isn't seeking the help of the police. Again, among the very same authority figures that are in charge of every aspect of dealing with "at-risk, missing, and exploited" people, are sociopathic predators, human traffickers. Who do you call when the authorities already know: it's them doing it, or they are cowardly turning a blind eye, whether paid or just intimidated.

She has no idea what to do or who to call, and since she has now alerted a network of human traffickers, if she was bluffing about a number of other people having the same info, I would urge her to cover that bluff immediately, to several people on different continents.

[Flash]

OK, now I watched the video. Those are real emotions, not acting.

What do you you call the time after recognizing/realizing/seeing something horrific, after the initial shock blast, and the secondary shock waves, a cascade of further waves, that leave you stunned and reeling and panicking and confused and fearful and then finally, flat-line empty... and after you've pulled yourself together out of that, and speak, what is that? PTSD-affected speech? That's the vibe that I get. She obviously has vlogged before and wasn't uncomfortable to be on camera - maybe that is what Mike read as acting.

I have something beyond an intellectual best guess feeling that my initial, instinctual guess is correct. Note that she isn't seeking the help of the police. Again, among the very same authority figures that are in charge of every aspect of dealing with "at-risk, missing, and exploited" people, are sociopathic predators, human traffickers. Who do you call when the authorities already know: it's them doing it, or they are cowardly turning a blind eye, whether paid or just intimidated.

She has no idea what to do or who to call, and since she has now alerted a network of human traffickers, if she was bluffing about a number of other people having the same info, I would urge her to cover that bluff immediately, to several people on different continents.

Your analysis is good Dennis. I would not presume on the thread, from human trafficking thugs or other stuff, but she is definitely under threat and in PTSD.

SHE IS NOT ACTING.

Her non verbal language is entirely coherent with being truthful. Every single twitch on her face is coherent with the words and with pain and fright.

[Valerie Villars]

Dennis, you call that time horrific, chaotic, unbelievable, paradigm shattering, world shattering, earth shattering, heart shattering, intellect shattering, shaky, scary, mind numbing, terrifying, unbelievable, time to tighten your physical reactions.

You reach out to other humans who have come to some of the same heart and mind shattering realizations and pray someone hears you, simply because their listening is an affirmation.

[waves]

I'm with DNA and Mike on this one, couldn't watch the choppy message in between gross sniffling and think it's very, very fishy to put this pathetic, unprofessional blathering out in public. She's not stupid and is video experienced. She chose going for max emotional bang over waiting until she be could calm, collected and lucid. There's no emergency that couldn't wait another few hours or day.

The math to me is: mystery reason too hot to disclose + tears and sympathy seeking + asking for money = big red flag

Lots of people have defended her citing what she's 'said' recently about where she's been, doing what, caring about what/who.... but I'd keep in mind that they're all stories without any verification whatsoever too.

My question is what has been her responsible, self supporting income all these years of activism? I know lots of people addicted to activism who dig big holes for having zero capability of holding any pain in the butt real job to keep their head above water.

[Mike]

If she's sincere, and truly afraid, then my heart goes out to her. You guys know me...i'm not cold-hearted or anything.

But..I don't believe that the idea to ask for funds was something she spontaneously thought of after she made the video. I think she knew all along she was gonna ask for funds. So i think some of that video is theatre.

It's very possible that some of the emotion she displayed is real, but I don't think it's coming from the alleged threat she talks about. She has an issue alright, but I feel she's being dishonest about what it is.

I'm not trying to play contrarian or anything. Truly. Omg, there was a period of about 3 yrs when I lived in southern CA , in my mid 20's, where almost every woman I met was married. I didn't plan it that way! And in my defense, I usually didn't know at first. I can't tell you how many times I'd witness one of them cry and wail and sob and declare undying love over the phone while talking to their husbands ...and then follow it all up by asking for $ (all while carrying on an affair with me)..Hanging up the phone they'd go right back to being their normal, happy selves..in an instant.

It was astounding.

So, I'm either just totally jaded because of my experiences...-or- I have a super keen sense of when someone is lying because of them. Time will tell.

[Spellbound]

I'm with DNA and Mike on this one, couldn't watch the choppy message in between gross sniffling and think it's very, very fishy to put this pathetic, unprofessional blathering out in public. She's not stupid and is video experienced. She chose going for max emotional bang over waiting until she be could calm, collected and lucid. There's no emergency that couldn't wait another few hours or day.

The math to me is: mystery reason too hot to disclose + tears and sympathy seeking + asking for money = big red flag

Reminds me of when David Wilcock went stark raving mad one night claiming "they" were after him blathering on in tears while Kerry was talking down from a ledge, so to speak ("they" always seem to be after her too).

Dave - Toronto

[Flash]

I'm with DNA and Mike on this one, couldn't watch the choppy message in between gross sniffling and think it's very, very fishy to put this pathetic, unprofessional blathering out in public. She's not stupid and is video experienced. She chose going for max emotional bang over waiting until she be could calm, collected and lucid. There's no emergency that couldn't wait another few hours or day.

The math to me is: mystery reason too hot to disclose + tears and sympathy seeking + asking for money = big red flag

Lots of people have defended her citing what she's 'said' recently about where she's been, doing what, caring about what/who.... but I'd keep in mind that they're all stories without any verification whatsoever too.

My question is what has been her responsible, self supporting income all these years of activism? I know lots of people addicted to activism who dig big holes for having zero capability of holding any pain in the butt real job to keep their head above water.

If I remember her videos from years ago, she has a grade 8 education, was raised in a not very good family, and ended up doing work with some tribes. She is very used to live in poverty as well. Money has never been her directing factor in life (she could have made much more, if organised)

I do think she may be manipulative at times, like most of us. But not this time. People with less schooling often did not learn organisational skills of presenters. They will present well because they are sincere, but otherwise, when in stress, they cannot hold back the feeling and organize their mind. Otherwise, as you say, she would have waited at least a few hours to cool down.

I have been in situation where I was pretty PTSD, and could not refrain my tears and get organized mentally to be able to present my case in a coherent manner. And in those times, I also took decision that were not to my advantage. Yet, I usually have a very organised mind and good emotional control (in fact, nowadays, I let go my emotions as they come, I became confident enough to do that pretty much wherever I am, but if needed, I could get them under control, except in highly difficult situations where my basic values and core being are shaken). And I am schooled, which makes mental organisation easier being trained to do so.

Your points are not in line with the person Wave. She is in PTSD. We just do not know why. And I would not give money until I know. Because, at this point, she is not rational nor intuitive.

[Flash]

I'm with DNA and Mike on this one, couldn't watch the choppy message in between gross sniffling and think it's very, very fishy to put this pathetic, unprofessional blathering out in public. She's not stupid and is video experienced. She chose going for max emotional bang over waiting until she be could calm, collected and lucid. There's no emergency that couldn't wait another few hours or day.

The math to me is: mystery reason too hot to disclose + tears and sympathy seeking + asking for money = big red flag

Reminds me of when David Wilcock went stark raving mad one night claiming "they" were after him blathering on in tears while Kerry was talking down from a ledge, so to speak ("they" always seem to be after her too).

Dave - Toronto

Yes, and I think David was genuinely very scared that night, so scared that afterwards he turned and became a participant in deceit. He may be telling himself that he has the right to make money etc, but he knows very well what he did and why (my guess). He has been had by being afraid.

I do not know if it can be compared with Miriam Delicado until I know what is happening.

[Spellbound]

I think David was genuinely very scared that night.

I think it was classic textbook manipulation (and narcissism).

Dave - Toronto

[Flash]

I think David was genuinely very scared that night.

I think it was classic textbook manipulation (and narcissism).

Dave - Toronto

lollll narcissism, yes, definitely

One difference between narcissists and psychopaths: narcissist can be frightened, they can fear. Psychopaths do not fear.

So, genuinely scared, yes he was. Was it based on truth and reality, no one will ever know, not even David.

[sunwings]

I feel this thread has become side tracked without any real need.

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[CurEus]

My hope is that she remains well.

[ExomatrixTV]

I agree with:

sunwings (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?30028-sunwings)

Any generalization for or against is NOT doing justice to the full spectrum of the truth ... it only serves own projected frustrations & unnecessary created (fake?) drama to exploit someones else's genuine drama. Vulture emotionalism? ... In my opinion most judgemental comments are there to bait others to join the same vibes and feeling good about doing that (confirmation bias mechanism).

[lunaflare]

When I saw Miriam in past interviews, she was composed, measured, eloquent, thoughtful. She was one of Kerry's guests (a high percentage of them have turned out to be questionable in terms of credibility). It is important to have doubt. Being open and trusting can put one at risk of being readily manipulated.

I tell you A WEEK WITHOUT sleep will get you into this emotional wreck shaky twitchy state pronto...

Miriam's objective in this video was to create a visual testimony in case of her death. She stresses it won't be suicide. It won't be an accident. That is the point of this video as I understand it.

That was all I learned.

[Flash]

Wow, your description of women and how untrustworthy they were, those you met, really not flattering. You definitely saw a side of them I did not see.... I am sorry you had those disgusting vampire gold diggers around. I can tell you yhat most of my long standing friends are not like this. Some may cheat, or could have in the past, but will never do a show to their husband for money.

In fact I have seen the reverse. Cheating and lieying men, leaving their wife and children pennyless, sometimes on the street. Much more often than we want to imagine.

I guess we both had bad experiences leading us to low trust of the opposite sex, even if we still like them.

Now back to topic.

Just don’t give money to Miriam until you know what is going on.



If she's sincere, and truly afraid, then my heart goes out to her. You guys know me...i'm not cold-hearted or anything.

But..I don't believe that the idea to ask for funds was something she spontaneously thought of after she made the video. I think she knew all along she was gonna ask for funds. So i think some of that video is theatre.

It's very possible that some of the emotion she displayed is real, but I don't think it's coming from the alleged threat she talks about. She has an issue alright, but I feel she's being dishonest about what it is.

I'm not trying to play contrarian or anything. Truly. Omg, there was a period of about 3 yrs when I lived in southern CA , in my mid 20's, where almost every woman I met was married. I didn't plan it that way! And in my defense, I usually didn't know at first. I can't tell you how many times I'd witness one of them cry and wail and sob and declare undying love over the phone while talking to their husbands ...and then follow it all up by asking for $ (all while carrying on an affair with me)..Hanging up the phone they'd go right back to being their normal, happy selves..in an instant.

It was astounding.

So, I'm either just totally jaded because of my experiences...-or- I have a super keen sense of when someone is lying because of them. Time will tell.

[pixiestix]

I immediately thought the same (David Wilcock) thing, Dave (Spellbound)..

[Mike]

Hi Flash, for what its worth, my little anecdote there wasn't meant to be an indictment on women specifically, just people in general....specifically desperate people willing to do whatever it takes to makes ends meet, including the use of the most vile and heartless emotional manipulation tactics

:focus:

[Flash]

Oh I will have an addition here: Canada is not the USA. If thrown on the street, you will get welfare (food) and a disgusting roof.

At least you are not in tent city, they usually don’t exist. Beggars on the street are those who cannot manage the almost nothing money (but enough for food when coupled with food banks), because of drugs, alcool, pimps. Miriam does not seem to be one of these.

She cannot be as desperate financially as she would be in USA.

[avid]

Miriam was ‘fundraising’ way back in 2009, but here she talks of a car ‘accident’ which she believes wasn’t an accident... In a very emotional state.
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/miriam_delicado_awake_and_aware_en.html

[RunningDeer]

Miriam was ‘fundraising’ way back in 2009, but here she talks of a car ‘accident’ which she believes wasn’t an accident... In a very emotional state.
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/miriam_delicado_awake_and_aware_en.html
@ 6:16 (https://youtu.be/m0o-qj8iCJY?t=377)

MIRIAM DELICADO at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Sept 2009

m0o-qj8iCJY


Project Camelot


Published on Oct 23, 2009

Come and see Miriam Delicado speak live at the Project Camelot Productions Awake and Aware 2011 conference set in Irvine California on 23, 24 and 25 September 2011. http://www.awakeandaware2011.com
--♥--
MIRIAM DELICADO at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, 19 September 2009, talking about her book ALIEN BLUE STAR - and the important message it brings.


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Reminds me of when David Wilcock went stark raving mad one night claiming "they" were after him blathering on in tears while Kerry was talking down from a ledge, so to speak ("they" always seem to be after her too).

Dave - Toronto


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[Cardillac]

I don't doubt MD's sincerity for 1 sec.- and I don't think she's a gold digger- but what I'm still baffled about is the concrete reason why she's so upset!- she never stated that!- but yet there was a lot of discussion on this forum about her precarious emotional state- but no-one deciphered why, the real reason for her emotional turmoil-

Larry

[Clear Light]

I don't doubt MD's sincerity for 1 sec.- and I don't think she's a gold digger- but what I'm still baffled about is the concrete reason why she's so upset!- she never stated that!- but yet there was a lot of discussion on this forum about her precarious emotional state- but no-one deciphered why, the real reason for her emotional turmoil-

Larry

Ah, yes, that's exactly what I found reading through the comments on her (now "hidden") FB page when I viewed the video ... There was so many commenters incredulous at her for not stating clearly what it was all about !!!

:sherlock:

[Denise/Dizi]

Perhaps she could reach out to Linda Moulton Howe, who DOES have the Gaia platform, AND does both conferences, and a broadcast. AND PEOPLE LISTEN TO HER... That's about as mainstream as she will get, merely because she does come off like a know it all, who has a personal and her own little private link to the "Gods".. And that everyone else is beneath her in some fashion. Perhaps the et themselves decided to put her back in her place, and told her to know her lane... She quickly went from a GURU of spirituality, to someone who was steadfast in the here and now didn't she?

SOMETHING snapped her back into reality, and reminded her she isn't any better than the rest of us.. And that she better humble herself QUICKLY.. OR ELSE... Perhaps this is the danger of claiming to "Know it all".. Once you do such a thing, they decide to show you a few things.. And it quickly shows you that you know NOTHING.... And the truth is terrifying apparently... Many suggest as much... What that truth is, perhaps we will never know. I DOUBT that she will be coming forward with any new information.

Perhaps she got a taste of the silent "Voice of God" technology, and it scared the crap out of her.. And that is what she wants to discuss. Who knows, even that is old news... She did imply that facebook was off limits many times. I wonder why?

[Billy]

I did notice that someone had posted the link to this thread on Miriam's face book page yesterday.

Something has obviously scared her. But the way she presented herself in the video did not do her any favours. Miriam came over as not being grounded and instead was an emotional wreck.

Hopefully she has some close friends around her who can help her.

[RunningDeer]

February 1st Tweet & this Facebook account (https://www.facebook.com/bluestarprophecy/) is still active.

https://i.imgur.com/22Wfl1u.jpg

[DNA]

I did notice that someone had posted the link to this thread on Miriam's face book page yesterday.

Something has obviously scared her. But the way she presented herself in the video did not do her any favours. Miriam came over as not being grounded and instead was an emotional wreck.

Hopefully she has some close friends around her who can help her.


This lack of being grounded makes me uneasy about what ever information she may think she has.
I've hung out with not a few folks of whom belong to the tribes she has been sourcing for information.
I've met numerous individuals along these lines who love to propose supernatural powers and or abilities in relation to their selves.
I did a sweat lodge with a group of Navajo men, I was invited by a Navajo I worked with, I thought naively these folks would welcome me with open arms.
They did not. They had me dig a pit, start a fire in it and then carry the hot rocks heated by the fire into the sweat lodge for hours before I was allowed in.

I was cool with all of this but what I was not cool with was how these guys tried to bullsh!t me while I was allowed to hang out with them.
While in the sweat lodge these individuals tried to impress upon me certain mystical and magical powers, I suppose this was done so the silly white boy would leave telling extraordinary tales about them.
I say this because Miriam Delicado's lack of being grounded as you say strikes me as such that she may believe such stories hook line and sinker without applying a certain amount of detachment to the situation.
It takes a certain kind of individual to enter these scenarios to be able to tell the truth from the B.S.

I'm reminded of what Ernest Hemingway said about needing a certain skill, a built in shock proof sh!t detector and Miriam does not strike me as a person equipped with this.

[Bubu]

Miriam already has figured out how to release the information without harming the people she protect. problem solve. So whats the problem?

[Daozen]

10 something yeas ago the first Miriam Delicado video scared a lot of people. Her testimony was a fairly big driver behind the dark and fearful "ground crew" plans to go to the mountains and prepare for dangerous events.

Nothing much happened. Yes, she was "warning" us, but under whose authority? The alt media has a terrible track record for predictions.


What it means is that, even if an individual travels through the area, they are going to be able to have information coming to them within their own selves in order to assist them and help them to know where it is they need to be on the planet.

If there is a great cataclysm that does take place, there are certain areas on the Earth that will be in safe zones. But that doesn’t mean that you’re going to be able to go there and be taken care of. What it means is that these areas will not have that great destruction, but it still will be in chaos. So that needs to be clarified to everyone and that there are these particular safe spots and safe lands all over the Earth.

People have a right to makes mistakes, I know... While she may be well-intentioned, there is nothing in her testimony that is verifiable. IMHO, it's time the alt media stopped indulging and promoting ungrounded and vaguely sensationalistic "whistleblower testimony". Most of it just serves to keep people in a short term dopamine spike. Meanwhile, TPTB(W?) carry out century long plans.

Didn't buy Q. Didn't buy Todd and Nora. Ain't buying this one.

[RunningDeer]

This is what comes up when you go to BlueStarProphecy.com (http://bluestarprophecy.com) & it’s the same for her blog (http://bluestarprophecy.com/blog/). It’s been my experience that it doesn’t take a month for scheduled maintenance.


https://i.imgur.com/xYNRxji.jpg

[Agape]

There has to be someone who lives near Miriam or who know her closely, who can call her or visit her and ask her if she’s doing well and what is all the problem about .
If you are aware of someone who can call her and find out please let them know.

People do not make helpless video statements like this everyday unless they’re some kind of panicked teenagers- that’s not the case here. It’s obviously not a prank and even many of panicked teenage shouts for help that were ignored or misinterpreted as pranks ended in bad corner.

I wish that the internet community was more mature in that manner -and capable of responsibility and responsiveness when one of the people known to them falls to some trap and trouble - instead just debating whether “Miriam did well”.

Please also consider as matter of fact that she’s living being, not bunch of internet accounts and time runs fast.


? :(

[Sandy123]

Watching the video above about the car accident and "she couldn't get out of bed for 5 days and slept the entire time" was that because she was hurt physically or because she was so upset that the "week before the accident, something significant happened" so she didn't believe it was truly an accident but intentional.
People handle stress in different ways. Some people eat a lot and some can't eat all. For some reason I always start cleaning my house while I think about my situation, drink coffee and don't eat.
I know I would be scared and stressed out if I thought someone was trying to kill me. It seems many people came to help her out during 2009, can she go ask for help from them?

[Tam]

This is what comes up when you go to BlueStarProphecy.com (http://bluestarprophecy.com) & it’s the same for her blog (http://bluestarprophecy.com/blog/). It’s been my experience that it doesn’t take a month for scheduled maintenance.


https://i.imgur.com/xYNRxji.jpg

Her site was up and running a few days ago, I remember checking it then.

Her YouTube channel, though, is gone, and has been presumably since this whole thing happened.

A tad dramatic if you ask me. If she really has gotten herself involved with some shady, powerful people, deactivating facebook or a YouTube channel will do nothing to stop them. Just because you can no longer access or see it, does not mean it's no longer there. Anything and everything you post online, is there forever, and can be found again if you have the right tools/skillset.

If she really is in as much trouble as she thinks she is, making an emotional, vague plea for help isn't going to do much.

[Nomatic]

She is not faking......

[Denise/Dizi]

The math to me is: mystery reason too hot to disclose + tears and sympathy seeking + asking for money = big red flag

Lots of people have defended her citing what she's 'said' recently about where she's been, doing what, caring about what/who.... but I'd keep in mind that they're all stories without any verification whatsoever too.

My question is what has been her responsible, self supporting income all these years of activism? I know lots of people addicted to activism who dig big holes for having zero capability of holding any pain in the butt real job to keep their head above water.

"I want to go to this place and do something good, I will need travel fare, a hotel room for me and my crew, food, and incidentals..." Who do these people think they are anyway? It's PATHETIC if you ask me.. We all have to pay our own expenses when we go somewhere, buy our own food, suddenly people think if they grace us with their presence, we somehow have to reimburse them for that luxury?

It does grow tiresome. Everyone has a youtube channel. Everyone is an experiencer, and eventually turns into a "Researcher", and thus learns some ugly truths. But what is really starting to bother me about the whole scene is.... Here are these people, having one or a few experiences, yet that's really all they ever do, is join a circuit to talk about the same tired experience over and over. And seemingly EVERYTHING that they want to do requires MORE MONEY from other researchers, so they can get places, pay for hotels, and even EAT.. Funny , I am almost $2,000.00 into going to Laughlin, and I probably have more information under my belt than half the speakers, yet I paid for my own room, my own meals, my own rental car, and airfare, and what am I getting aside from getting to meet a few lovely friends? THE SAME TIRED STORIES with the same people whining about the donations they need for THEIR story. EGO much? Most of these people get their material from those that attend these shows sharing THEIR information while they're there!!!.. She outwardly claims that she needs the cash for a LAWYER. That sounds like she didn't "Learn" anything other than maybe something that she participated in, maybe was ILLEGAL.. So perhaps she is worried about her safety if she may be going to JAIL. Or perhaps she isn't as beneficial to the scene as she thought that she was, so she is broke..

I suppose it just annoys me, her in particular, big deal she met some Nordics, and she made a few indian Hopi friends. She has absolutely NOTHING NEW to say... EVER. Yet she suddenly makes a page about PROPHECIES? Here is a woman making a living on a few hours worth of contact. And this is the second time in as many months that she has gone online peddling herself for cash. I am not heartless, but I am also not every one else's piggy bank, and I think a lot of kind hearted people are really being taken advantage of by some of these folks. If she REALLY thought coming forward would offer her some protection, she would have said what she found, it's THAT SIMPLE, once it's out, it's out. None of this cloak and dagger, "I told a friend, and they told two friends, so send me cash" UGH..

She tries to make a living at being some guru in the field of motivational speaking.. Yet she says absolutely NOTHING when she does these shows. I am just tired of everyone coming out for the cash, then claiming hardships, yet they're being well taken care of when they present their information, and if nothing else, getting free transport, free room and board, and meals when they do come, and don't forget whatever it is they're selling.

Corey Goode had a house paid for for 2 years, yet he was broke? His wife can't work? Wilcock, has his wife now working on the circuit .. at a certain point it becomes repulsive to me. I can't watch Dolan of LMH anymore, they're videos are lining up like children waiting for a toy on a playground on recess. Everyone has found the money path, not the truth path these days, I am tired of people claiming they're giving their information away freely, and being attacked, and we really need to be as one and help.. always with money. Last time I checked, my contact experiences cost me nothing, and youtube charges nothing to share about them, should I choose to. Service to others my butt.

I suppose this woman just rubs me the wrong way with the way she talks in a condescending fashion to everyone as if she was put on this world to tell everyone else that she is better than they are because she met et. Heads up Mariam, we all have, that's why we go to these things.

WOW this is out of character for me, sorry folks, I must be tired.

[Flash]

Dizzyblueyes, you make sooo much sense!!!

I give the benefit of the doubt to Miriam or anyone by the way, but I never give money without having the real picture. This is a great teaching from various experiences. Money being the ultimate corrupter if not spiritually very advanced.

To have any of my little money, a real track record has to be there.

And yes, I cannot follow Dolan, Howe, Dark Journalists videos overload anymore, even if they would have real content. Not enough time in a week. Truth will disappear between overloads of good ones and fraud or piggy backing of others.

And yes, there are thousands of speakers in hundreds of fields who bring nothing new to ghe world, just copy cats of the real ones. And when the real ones do speak, they are taken for a ride.

To me, from years back, Miriam is a nice soul who felt on a track to make a living because she had very little to survive and few skills. That is it. So, no story standing the truth filters, no money, no encouragement either. Only compassion for the situation they are in, whatever the inner or outer reason.

Gosh, I am getting old and still working for my roof and food and still supporting my student daughter.

[Pam]

Well I defy anyone to remain calm if you have seen graphic images, film of abuse on children.
Not that I have seen thank god, but I can imagine.
Nowadays live deaths on video seem kind of regular, there is lots of that going around, but if you ever seen any of this stuff, remember how you felt the first time before you became desensitized.
You cannot un-see these things and it can be traumatic.

First of all, we can't assume she has seen graphic images of child porn, second if she had, do you think broadcasting your emotional meltdown is a helpful step in dealing with it?

[Pam]

The math to me is: mystery reason too hot to disclose + tears and sympathy seeking + asking for money = big red flag

Lots of people have defended her citing what she's 'said' recently about where she's been, doing what, caring about what/who.... but I'd keep in mind that they're all stories without any verification whatsoever too.

My question is what has been her responsible, self supporting income all these years of activism? I know lots of people addicted to activism who dig big holes for having zero capability of holding any pain in the butt real job to keep their head above water.

"I want to go to this place and do something good, I will need travel fare, a hotel room for me and my crew, food, and incidentals..." Who do these people think they are anyway? It's PATHETIC if you ask me.. We all have to pay our own expenses when we go somewhere, buy our own food, suddenly people think if they grace us with their presence, we somehow have to reimburse them for that luxury?

It does grow tiresome. Everyone has a youtube channel. Everyone is an experiencer, and eventually turns into a "Researcher", and thus learns some ugly truths. But what is really starting to bother me about the whole scene is.... Here are these people, having one or a few experiences, yet that's really all they ever do, is join a circuit to talk about the same tired experience over and over. And seemingly EVERYTHING that they want to do requires MORE MONEY from other researchers, so they can get places, pay for hotels, and even EAT.. Funny , I am almost $2,000.00 into going to Laughlin, and I probably have more information under my belt than half the speakers, yet I paid for my own room, my own meals, my own rental car, and airfare, and what am I getting aside from getting to meet a few lovely friends? THE SAME TIRED STORIES with the same people whining about the donations they need for THEIR story. EGO much? Most of these people get their material from those that attend these shows sharing THEIR information while they're there!!!.. She outwardly claims that she needs the cash for a LAWYER. That sounds like she didn't "Learn" anything other than maybe something that she participated in, maybe was ILLEGAL.. So perhaps she is worried about her safety if she may be going to JAIL. Or perhaps she isn't as beneficial to the scene as she thought that she was, so she is broke..

I suppose it just annoys me, her in particular, big deal she met some Nordics, and she made a few indian Hopi friends. She has absolutely NOTHING NEW to say... EVER. Yet she suddenly makes a page about PROPHECIES? Here is a woman making a living on a few hours worth of contact. And this is the second time in as many months that she has gone online peddling herself for cash. I am not heartless, but I am also not every one else's piggy bank, and I think a lot of kind hearted people are really being taken advantage of by some of these folks. If she REALLY thought coming forward would offer her some protection, she would have said what she found, it's THAT SIMPLE, once it's out, it's out. None of this cloak and dagger, "I told a friend, and they told two friends, so send me cash" UGH..

She tries to make a living at being some guru in the field of motivational speaking.. Yet she says absolutely NOTHING when she does these shows. I am just tired of everyone coming out for the cash, then claiming hardships, yet they're being well taken care of when they present their information, and if nothing else, getting free transport, free room and board, and meals when they do come, and don't forget whatever it is they're selling.

Corey Goode had a house paid for for 2 years, yet he was broke? His wife can't work? Wilcock, has his wife now working on the circuit .. at a certain point it becomes repulsive to me. I can't watch Dolan of LMH anymore, they're videos are lining up like children waiting for a toy on a playground on recess. Everyone has found the money path, not the truth path these days, I am tired of people claiming they're giving their information away freely, and being attacked, and we really need to be as one and help.. always with money. Last time I checked, my contact experiences cost me nothing, and youtube charges nothing to share about them, should I choose to. Service to others my butt.

I suppose this woman just rubs me the wrong way with the way she talks in a condescending fashion to everyone as if she was put on this world to tell everyone else that she is better than they are because she met et. Heads up Mariam, we all have, that's why we go to these things.

WOW this is out of character for me, sorry folks, I must be tired.

Absolutely beautiful post!!!! Don't be sorry.. If I could give you a thousand stars on this post I would. Heart felt and to the point. Bravo!!!!

[Mike]

I enjoyed that rant too Diziblueyez! I was smiling and laughing as I read (..in recognition of the post's many truths)

It's true: these days it seems the moment someone calls themself a researcher or experiencer, they suddenly become incapable of any kind of self-sustaining work LOL. It's like overnight they become helpless children and need the "community" to do all their heavy lifting for them moving forward.

we must support so and so becomes the rallying cry. How many times have we heard that one?? So and so needs money! Its dire! This has always made me chuckle a little. Here's a novel idea: get a job. And don't tell me there's no work available, or that some 3 letter agency has blacklisted you, or youre too much of a delicate flower now, or whatever. Run a mop if you have to....i have!

Part of the reason we take responsibilty for ourselves is so other people won't have to do it for us. Researchers aren't researching 24 hrs a day, and experiences aren't experiencing 24 hrs a day - there's still plenty of time to earn some money the old fashioned way. That way, when emergencies arrive, you'll be bloody prepared for them.

I think there is quite a bit of escapism involved in this community....escapism coming from the researchers and experiencers, but also all of us that are following along...escape from basic responsibilities and reality in general. There needs to be a collective growing up. This Miriam thing is a good case study in that.

:focus:

[RunningDeer]

WOW this is out of character for me, sorry folks, I must be tired.

I think there is quite a bit of escapism involved in this community....escapism coming from the researchers and experiencers, but also all of us that are following along...escape from basic responsibilities and reality in general. There needs to be a collective growing up. This Miriam thing is a good case study in that.

Out of the park posts by Diziblueyez and Mike. https://i.imgur.com/DkZGtqY.gif

I managed to grab a snapshot of Miriam’s website before it was changed: her November DONATION TARGET AMOUNT was $2,500.


https://i.imgur.com/ZHzf5s6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif


Her site was up and running a few days ago, I remember checking it then.

Her YouTube channel, though, is gone, and has been presumably since this whole thing happened.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/scratch-thinker.gif

Indigris, I spent last evening trying to find Miriam Delicado’s YouTube channel and gave one more check today. She’s been a guest speaker (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=miriam+delicado+youtube) on a lot platforms over the years, though nothing recent that I could find. (aside from the one in the OP)

I found on her website the link to her Google+ account (https://plus.google.com/+MiriamDelicado). The company is shutting down (https://support.google.com/plus/answer/9195133?hl=en&authuser=0) all personal Google accounts on April 2nd. She’ll no longer be able to upload after February 4th. I noticed that her Google+ vids are gone. I don't have a Facebook account so I'm guessing that any videos on FB come from her Google+ account. If this is correct then as of today that revenue source has dried up. It was announced December, 2018 and a follow up notice went out on January 30, 2019 to all Google+ members:





“As early as February 4th, you will no longer be able to create new Google+ profiles, pages, communities or events. See the full FAQ for more details and updates leading up to the shutdown.”


Shutting down Google+ for consumer (personal) accounts on April 2, 2019




January 30, 2019

In December 2018, we announced our decision to shut down Google+ for consumers in April 2019 due to low usage and challenges involved in maintaining a successful product that meets consumers’ expectations. We want to thank you for being part of Google+ and provide next steps, including how to download your photos and other content.

On April 2nd, your Google+ account and any Google+ pages you created will be shut down and we will begin deleting content from consumer Google+ accounts. Photos and videos from Google+ in your Album Archive and your Google+ pages will also be deleted. You can download and save your content, just make sure to do so before April. Note that photos and videos backed up in Google Photos will not be deleted.

The process of deleting content from consumer Google+ accounts, Google+ Pages, and Album Archive will take a few months, and content may remain through this time. For example, users may still see parts of their Google+ account via activity log and some consumer Google+ content may remain visible to G Suite users until consumer Google+ is deleted.

As early as February 4th, you will no longer be able to create new Google+ profiles, pages, communities or events. See the full FAQ for more details and updates leading up to the shutdown.
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[aoibhghaire]

I agree with Diziblueyez and Mike.

I have followed MD for some years and the significant consciousness expansion she had gone through with her ET encounters. Some of these encounters provides challenging integrations for balancing one’s electrical system, this could go on for years.

We decide after these events what choices of paths we make in this world.
For some they feel they have to go public with its ramifications or for some go privately and quietly still making significant contributions that appears as normalization for others in that process. Going privately, I mean creating our own reality that also has ramifications through the quantum field. It doesn’t mean exposing oneself publicly. Therefore, having developed one’s empowerment, whatever extreme information one encounters, in MDs case, shouldn’t have resulted with destabilization of one’s being.

The PTB are afraid of who the invisible ‘others’ are as compared to awakened individuals who are known in the alternative community. Bill Ryan in Q&A has reiterated a rare friend of his who is one of these individuals. I’m sorry that I may have appeared to be off topic but the above has to be taken into context with MDs circumstances.

[Cardillac]

this will be my last posting on this MD forum;

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WOMAN WAILING ABOUT???!!!

SHE NEVER STATED HER POSITION!

sheesh!

Larry

[Valerie Villars]

I agree with Diziblueyez and Mike.

I have followed MD for some years and the significant consciousness expansion she had gone through with her ET encounters. Some of these encounters provides challenging integrations for balancing one’s electrical system, this could go on for years.

We decide after these events what choices of paths we make in this world.
For some they feel they have to go public with its ramifications or for some go privately and quietly still making significant contributions that appears as normalization for others in that process. Going privately, I mean creating our own reality that also has ramifications through the quantum field. It doesn’t mean exposing oneself publicly. Therefore, having developed one’s empowerment, whatever extreme information one encounters, in MDs case, shouldn’t have resulted with destabilization of one’s being.

The PTB are afraid of who the invisible ‘others’ are as compared to awakened individuals who are known in the alternative community. Bill Ryan in Q&A has reiterated a rare friend of his who is one of these individuals. I’m sorry that I may have appeared to be off topic but the above has to be taken into context with MDs circumstances.

aoibhghaire, that is why I LOVE this forum and all of you here. Your last paragraph gives me so much insight into so many pertinent things in my own life, and also why every time I try to explore what I experienced through some medium other than me figuring it out for myself, something seems to stop me. With good reason, I am beginning to see. You have helped me empower myself just a little bit more today. Thank you.

Diziblueyez, I thanked you without commenting and I DO agree with all you said.

[Denise/Dizi]

Wow THANK YOU guys for not bashing me for being heartless...

I would never want someone who is in danger to be in that situation, yet that wasn't really the vibe I got from her video at all.. And to be honest with you, the scene overall is troubling in some aspects.

I have been looking into the "Researchers" that are going to be at the event in Laughlin. Being a "Researcher" myself...I wanted to know what these people generally do, so that I can figure out some solid questions to ask them, that will help me in my own research... (New things to look up, and validate or disprove).. And to be honest with you, it is quite saddening. MOST of them are just regurgitating old information. There is a little bit of "New Age" teachings .. Which I couldn't care less about. I don't want their self help, I WANT FACTS for that kind of coin!

Rey Hernandez will be there, touting the findings in their survey's from people like US, that have had contacts... And trying to sell back to us, the book they wrote with information WE GAVE THEM... While being completely compensated for doing so...

I then looked up Derek Tyler.... Derek, is a self proclaimed researcher.. contactee, and author... And while his "Resume in the field" sounds impressive, to hear him speak is like listening to paint dry.. Yes I said Listening not watching, because it is nearly impossible to do it's THAT BAD... I watched two videos that he did. And apparently, after his 50 plus years of research, and personal contacts, he hasn't "Researched" anything at all! He is merely sharing information that has been out in the public realm for the last 61 years, and claiming it's all factual... Including Corso's reuse of the technology, by putting it out into the public realm.. SERIOUSLY THIS IS CUTTING EDGE RESEARCH?

The whole word RESEARCH means to get information, then to look for proof that the conclusions based upon THOSE details were accurate and true.. OR TO FIND ANOTHER CONCLUSION entirely! I had hoped to go speak to him and others, after they present, and ask them some new questions, yet I am quickly finding NONE of them research anything! They merely study what is already out there, and share those details as if they're FACTUAL. This is both disheartening and alarming. Why are these people being PAID , or at the very least being given a platform to merely regurgitate this information, and then being allowed to sell their wares, if we are seriously looking for TRUTH, and NEW INFORMATION at all?

And can we for just a moment, talk abut the George Noorey game show at the event? WTF? It is not only being treated like a joke and for entertainment purposes, they're starting to give these lectures on cruise ships.. I guess the presenters need vacations too right?

Then they make big claims like they NEED money to go "Study" something. John Lear is begging for help to pay his mortgage, his air conditioners, etc.. . Kerry needs money to get to the prison, or Egypt, or events in general.. (Which they're generally paid for, so why she is doing this is beyond me, other than most don't realize their expenses are covered... ) Mariam needs money for an attorney, Corey and David, and Emery need money for housing.. Greer will help you have a contact experience for the low low price of $2,500.00!!! Seriously, if these people can't meet there personal expenses, perhaps they should get a job like the real world, and cover those BEFORE they try to do these other things.. I like Kerry, and I like John, and I consider them both to be nice and kind and I consider them friends in the field, yet they're stuck right in the middle of the way this field is playing out.. And as such play by the same rules...

AND we are watching as the field has gone from truth telling, to "ONE UP-MANSHIP" You were in a "20 and back"? I served THREE of those... You are psychic? I TOO am an intuitive.. We go from "Presenters of truth" or whistle blowers testimony, to trying to beat the next guy to the punch. You are on Gaia? OK well I now have my site, and it is in a TV format as well....Your channel is monitized? OK well now mine is.. SAVE THE GOOD information for those who pay "SUPER CHATS, or PATREON...." UGH

Sure, monetize your youtube channel.. allow people to donate if they so choose... But in the last year EVERY NEW SITE I have gone to, has in one way or another asked me to PAY for the information, so "THEY" can continue to do this work. I am sorry but I can't afford to pay every site for each individual story.. Every radio station I listened to, I am growing tired of the whole scene in general and that's why I came to Avalon. You wanna see Goode, Wilcock, or Smith, or LMH you gotta pay for Gaia.. You wanna get the newest details? You gotta pay for the Superchat. You wanna go to two events in a year, expect the same schtick.. But if you want MORE information, you have to pay for the next day intensive meet and greets, it's all BS.

By the time I came back to Avalon last night and saw that I had left up the page on MD. I went off. hahaha. I mean I have watched this woman talk to people on camera as if she is some new age JESUS, and everyone that she is speaking to is STUPID. And somehow she is a "Chosen one" and I was just wanting to vomit. She goes on as if we all somehow need to learn her way, and that she has all the answers and her contacts happened long ago, and in my opinion weren't even noteworthy at the time.. Much less listening to how she has interpreted it over the years, and the affects it has had on how SHE chooses to see life.. I mean she has actually started a non profit for WHAT? What exactly is she doing to reroute funds for her "HELP"?

I suppose she is on her own path to self discovery, as we all are, but talking DOWN to people, as if you're the only enlightened person on the planet, only makes you look like a self righteous ass in my opinion. And quite frankly I wouldn't pay her to tell me ANYTHING... If she were presenting at the event, I would WALK OUT... Why these people are even allowed to present at these shows, is beyond me. You wanna talk about such things go to the appropriate show...

Those that give a platform to others who whistleblow, tend to believe anything and everything that they hear in the course of giving that platform, and the next thing you know THEY are then "Presenting" as another means of income.. I just can't stand that aspect to all of it. STAY IN YOUR LANE...

If you can't afford your own expenses, then perhaps you're in the wrong line of work... When your job is to share FACTUAL information, but your lifestyle depends on HOW MUCH you present, I believe that FACTS begin to suffer, and can easily be replaced with suggestions, unverifiable information. You begin to get into the field of "Resonation".. If it "Resonates" with you, it's then true. SERIOUSLY? THIS IS WHERE THE FIELD is now? People ALLOW THIS?

So I was having those thoughts roll through my mind as I posted that reply. Thank you all for being so very kind and not taking me to task for having such an outburst. I think we all can relate to the frustrations in the field in general...

I am so glad I am a member here... You guys are too kind... <3

I am PRO Joe from the Carolina's. I am PRO Kevin Moore.. I am Pro C.W. Chanter... WHY? Because they DEMAND that these people claiming to have all the facts actually PROVE IT... Or at the very leas, ACKNOWLEDGE that what they're PROFITING FROM, is nothing more than speculation without documentation. I didn't get into the field to GUESS.. To believe everything everyone else fed me, nor do I need some "Life coach" like MD. To watch them present is quite honestly offensive and a waste of my time. And when they start crying claiming the CABAL is after them, or dark forces, merely because they have a bad Skype connection, or they got the flu... I just want to say OH PLEASE, you're NOT that important.. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

Apparently Wilcock had a tree fall in his yard, and it was a SYNHRONICITY that means EVERYTHING is really happening. And those INDICTMENTS MUST BE HAPPENING... I am sure he will be seeking donations to have a tree crew come remove it in the very near future as well.. What people will give to others merely because they are willing to abuse the kindness of others astonishes me... Those same indictments that have been happening for over ten years now. HAHAHA.. And suddenly his WIFE is now presenting at "Contact in the Desert".. I fully expected to find Corey's wife selling her little crystals in a booth outside of Corey's presentation at Contact in the Desert this year, but apparently he wasn't invited.. Gee, I wonder why?

IS THIS THE STANDARD to which this field has been reduced to? For once, I thought that the field was getting somewhere with disclosure. But now I am not so sure. All I am seeing is a bunch of people claiming to be better than others, yet asking others to take care of them. Someone above said it better than I ever could.. These people seem to not want to have any part in taking care of themselves, so they tend to elevate themselves to a place, at least in their own minds as if they have something better than we do, that they have to offer us. So in turn WE will take care of them, or at least the hard parts of being a GROWN UP... I find this to be a lazy way of being, and not in any way "Enlightened" at all!

REAL grown ups handle their responsibilities, and take care of themselves, before they claim to be giving to others. Because if you're not capable of taking care of yourself, then how do you ever plan to help anyone else properly? That would be like a starving, homeless person, adopting a dog from the pound.. Then claiming you're some HERO for saving them, then begging for others to feed both you AND the same dog. The stupidity in the public for perpetuating this, is astounding. I got into the field because I saw this happening in our government.. Imagine my shock to see it in the "TRUTH" movement as well..

[Dennis Leahy]

My observation turns to the intellect-based versus the heart-based responses in this thread on Avalon. (We are all publicly dissecting ourselves, by the way.)

I think we've got a little Milgram Experiment going on here.

I don't need to know her shoe size to be able to receive what her heart communicated. I didn't post to defend her (I have no idea who this person is) - I don't know her. It's all beside the point.

I'm not arguing that her response (the first video) to stimulus (unknown) was rational, intelligent, wise, or strategic... but it wasn't manipulative, calculating, or sinister. How do I "know" that? I don't, intellectually. But my heart knows.

Where are the psychics on the forum? I would ask, when you "read" people, do you read with your heart or your head? I'm reading panic, fear, confusion, disgust, terror, compassion, and I "get" that the unspoken subject is the discovery of a node of a network of the highest level of human exploitation. I'm quite serious, and would appreciate if the psychics on this forum agree, disagree, or have further insight.

By the way, it has been said several times, but then asked several times, but the video is about her declaration that if she happens to have an untimely death, it is not suicide - which carries the implication that she recognizes that she is logically a target for being "suicided." She asked people to copy her declaration. That's all she asked for. What was conveyed heart to heart in that video was real, even if she is some sort of a new age circuit grifter, and regardless of what followed that video.

The "Miriam is just another new age huckster!" and "watch out for new age hucksters!" concepts may make interesting threads - in fact, we all know at least the second one would. I think this thread is like one of those math problems that has too much extraneous information and that makes it hard to find the pertinent data. Honestly, I think part of the problem was including the second video, in the first post. That second video was added for context (I believe), but may have acted too strongly to divert the attention to Miriam the person (and her faults and baggage...) rather than just making a heart-to-heart connection with a message that was delivered by some distraught lady on a video.

[Frenchy]

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Wow THANK YOU guys for not bashing me for being heartless...

I would never want someone who is in danger to be in that situation,...

Grown ups handle their responsibilities, and take care of themselves, before they claim to be giving to others. Because if you're not capable of taking care of yourself, then how do you ever plan to help anyone else properly? .

Gosh Woman,you don't often let vent, but when you do......

For my part, { I'm not analytical :-(( } when I see ppl such as M. Delicado, on Bases Project, I have a first thought whether it is a ' stage ' name !
By the same token I wonder whether any parent named 'Bliss' would call their child 'Max ' ????

Frankly, Dizy, I find your comments absolutely conscise...

[Caliban]

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The whole word RESEARCH means to get information, then to look for proof that the conclusions based upon THOSE details were accurate and true.. OR TO FIND ANOTHER CONCLUSION entirely! I had hoped to go speak to him and others, after they present, and ask them some new questions, yet I am quickly finding NONE of them research anything! They merely study what is already out there, and share those details as if they're FACTUAL. This is both disheartening and alarming. Why are these people being PAID , or at the very least being given a platform to merely regurgitate this information, and then being allowed to sell their wares, if we are seriously looking for TRUTH, and NEW INFORMATION at all?

....

Then they make big claims like they NEED money to go "Study" something. John Lear is begging for help to pay his mortgage, his air conditioners, etc.. . Kerry needs money to get to the prison, or Egypt, or events in general.. (Which they're generally paid for, so why she is doing this is beyond me, other than most don't realize their expenses are covered... ) Mariam needs money for an attorney, Corey and David, and Emery need money for housing.. Greer will help you have a contact experience for the low low price of $2,500.00!!! Seriously, if these people can't meet there personal expenses, perhaps they should get a job like the real world, and cover those BEFORE they try to do these other things.. I like Kerry, and I like John, and I consider them both to be nice and kind and I consider them friends in the field, yet they're stuck right in the middle of the way this field is playing out.. And as such play by the same rules...

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If you can't afford your own expenses, then perhaps you're in the wrong line of work... When your job is to share FACTUAL information, but your lifestyle depends on HOW MUCH you present, I believe that FACTS begin to suffer, and can easily be replaced with suggestions, unverifiable information. You begin to get into the field of "Resonation".. If it "Resonates" with you, it's then true. SERIOUSLY? THIS IS WHERE THE FIELD is now? People ALLOW THIS?

....

IS THIS THE STANDARD to which this field has been reduced to? For once, I thought that the field was getting somewhere with disclosure. But now I am not so sure. All I am seeing is a bunch of people claiming to be better than others, yet asking others to take care of them. Someone above said it better than I ever could.. These people seem to not want to have any part in taking care of themselves, so they tend to elevate themselves to a place, at least in their own minds as if they have something better than we do, that they have to offer us. So in turn WE will take care of them, or at least the hard parts of being a GROWN UP... I find this to be a lazy way of being, and not in any way "Enlightened" at all!

REAL grown ups handle their responsibilities, and take care of themselves, before they claim to be giving to others. Because if you're not capable of taking care of yourself, then how do you ever plan to help anyone else properly? That would be like a starving, homeless person, adopting a dog from the pound.. Then claiming you're some HERO for saving them, then begging for others to feed both you AND the same dog. The stupidity in the public for perpetuating this, is astounding. I got into the field because I saw this happening in our government.. Imagine my shock to see it in the "TRUTH" movement as well..

Careful there, you're telling too much truth in one (or two) post. You've about reached your limit.

John Keel would appreciate what you've written above. That was a guy who wouldn't be begging on youtube and making one video after another. No, he'd still be wandering down some dirt road to talk to one witness or another. This field is like every...other...field. Hucksters, hoaxers, and a few needles in the haystack who are genuine. All that glitters, etc...

[aoibhghaire]

I totally agree with you Diziblueyez. I couldn’t have said it better.

I think MD is right where she is. Her choice was to create her reality and the ensuing ramifications there upon. It’s not your or my reality or anybody else on this forum. Its not about sympathizing about her circumstances, this is what she has created. This may appear to be a cold remark IMO, but it is true. MD in her public position has gone above the pulpit which means one is now vulnerable to outside forces. Those forces are there for some of us to go through trials of passage. This I believe is her trial of passage. I do believe we set these stages up in order to learn these circumstances. This is all part of the process leading to empowerment. Most people want to escape this level and have to repeat the same circumstantial patterns again.

In relationship to the upcoming Avalon Conference, I did see the line-up of speakers for UFO Mega Con. Again, for those attending is the externalization of one’s being, trying to find information to address one’s inner state non addressable weakness at the time. IMHO, every speaker should be metaphorically shot in order to release one from this externalization. I have on occasions told others over the years, whom are devotees of an avatar/guru to shoot the f******bas**** or you’ll never wake up. It used to upset some people. But a much needed emotional shock treatment tonic. The key to all this is to at least soften one’s beliefs of finding these ‘so called illusionary answers’.

This all reminds me of V'Ger in the Star Trek movie back in the late 1970s.
A sentient, massive entity which threatened Earth in, en route to find its "Creator." In doing so, V'Ger destroyed anything it encountered by digitizing it for its memory chamber.

Generating a power field "cloud" about itself of over solar system distances in diameter, the entity had gained sentience after unknown aliens repaired the old Earth space probe that formed its core — Voyager 6, whose name in corrupted English gave the sentience its name.

The entity, which viewed organic lifeforms as carbon-based units "infesting" starships, later joined with Starfleet's Lt. Ilia and Cmdr. Will Decker and evolved into a higher, yet unknown lifeform.
The result was an unconditional love it found. WOW! It eventually found the answer to the next phase of its existence. It didn’t need to find more information. This is similar to empowerment via enlightenment.

[Valerie Villars]

My observation turns to the intellect-based versus the heart-based responses in this thread on Avalon. (We are all publicly dissecting ourselves, by the way.)

I think we've got a little Milgram Experiment going on here.

I don't need to know her shoe size to be able to receive what her heart communicated. I didn't post to defend her (I have no idea who this person is) - I don't know her. It's all beside the point.

I'm not arguing that her response (the first video) to stimulus (unknown) was rational, intelligent, wise, or strategic... but it wasn't manipulative, calculating, or sinister. How do I "know" that? I don't, intellectually. But my heart knows.

Where are the psychics on the forum? I would ask, when you "read" people, do you read with your heart or your head? I'm reading panic, fear, confusion, disgust, terror, compassion, and I "get" that the unspoken subject is the discovery of a node of a network of the highest level of human exploitation. I'm quite serious, and would appreciate if the psychics on this forum agree, disagree, or have further insight.

By the way, it has been said several times, but then asked several times, but the video is about her declaration that if she happens to have an untimely death, it is not suicide - which carries the implication that she recognizes that she is logically a target for being "suicided." She asked people to copy her declaration. That's all she asked for. What was conveyed heart to heart in that video was real, even if she is some sort of a new age circuit grifter, and regardless of what followed that video.

The "Miriam is just another new age huckster!" and "watch out for new age hucksters!" concepts may make interesting threads - in fact, we all know at least the second one would. I think this thread is like one of those math problems that has too much extraneous information and that makes it hard to find the pertinent data. Honestly, I think part of the problem was including the second video, in the first post. That second video was added for context (I believe), but may have acted too strongly to divert the attention to Miriam the person (and her faults and baggage...) rather than just making a heart-to-heart connection with a message that was delivered by some distraught lady on a video.

This was my gut feeling from the beginning. I concur.

[Spellbound]

I managed to grab a snapshot of Miriam’s website before it was changed: her November DONATION TARGET AMOUNT was $2,500.

Am I the only one who finds this a bit ostentatious?? Setting monthly donation targets is bad enough, but setting them that high is taking it to a whole 'nother level. Perhaps others are ok with this, but I find it insulting.

Dave - Toronto

[Clear Light]

Oh, her Twitter (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado/status/1092261875205705729) has an update as of Sunday evening (3rd Feb) :


I am ok. Need time to take care of things. My team and I are working on things to resolve the issue. SHARE this update. Miriam

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Indigris, I spent last evening trying to find Miriam Delicado’s YouTube channel and gave one more check today

The one I found (that isn't there now) is called : AlienBlueStar (https://www.youtube.com/user/alienbluestar)

The last snapshot from WayBackMachine is from Feb 2016, it's here (https://web.archive.org/web/20160212073743/https://www.youtube.com/user/alienbluestar) (if I've got the the right one ?)

But it's good to hear she's ok eh ? :thumbsup:

[RunningDeer]

I managed to grab a snapshot of Miriam’s website before it was changed: her November DONATION TARGET AMOUNT was $2,500.

Am I the only one who finds this a bit ostentatious?? Setting monthly donation targets is bad enough, but setting them that high is taking it to a whole 'nother level. Perhaps others are ok with this, but I find it insulting.

Dave - Toronto
There are many that work 40-50 hours a week (X's 4 weeks) that aren't able to bring in that kind of money to feed, cloth and shelter their families.

That was one of the reasons why I spent so much time on the Corey Clan threads. Free rent for two years, and the whole family flew to Hawaii for a vacation while Corey did a conference. I could never figure out why people didn't suggest that his wife get a job. Stacey has a college degree in biology that is unless she quit three years into it like Corey.

What woke me up to stop putting all my energy into the Clan was about six month ago, Corey Facebooked everyone to announce that it was his wife's birthday. He'd consider suggestions from anyone that donated towards her special day. Saayyy Whatttttt? Can you imagine? That's all kinds of wrong on many levels.

[Flash]

I managed to grab a snapshot of Miriam’s website before it was changed: her November DONATION TARGET AMOUNT was $2,500.

Am I the only one who finds this a bit ostentatious?? Setting monthly donation targets is bad enough, but setting them that high is taking it to a whole 'nother level. Perhaps others are ok with this, but I find it insulting.

Dave - Toronto
There are many that work 40-50 hours a week (X's 4 weeks) that aren't able to bring in that kind of money to feed, cloth and shelter their families.

That was one of the reasons why I spent so much time on the Corey Clan threads. Free rent for two years, and the whole family flew to Hawaii for a vacation while Corey did a conference. I could never figure out why people didn't suggest that his wife get a job. Stacey has a college degree in biology that is unless she quit three years into it like Corey.

What woke me up to stop putting all my energy into the Clan was about six months or so ago, Corey Facebooks everyone to announce that it's his wife's birthday. And he'd take advice as to what to get her from anyone that donated. Saayyy Whatttttt? Can you imagine? That's all kinds of wrong on many levels.

Well, I did not know that.
Although I think she was genuinely scared and in distress, I did not know she was asking 30,000$ US a year, tax free (donations). Gosh, it pays to be in the alt media!! for not doing much. Please, give me the talent to be a 'wisdom seeker', a 'clairvoyant', name it. The worst part being that there are real great beings, albeit very rare, on this planet. They usually are silent. If they teach, it is always an invite, never a begging for money even if they charge. They are reasonable. Gosh

I certainly won't give, like I never did for Corey. He had written once on TOT forum against me, having not even ever been on the same thread than me here on Avalon. He was very nasty in his comments, and mostly completely wrong in his analysis, inventing stories.

I am more and more and more disappointed of the 'untruth' alt media. It is pretty much as bad and as exploitative by now as the regular media.

[RunningDeer]

I am more and more and more disappointed of the 'untruth' alt media. It is pretty much as bad and as exploitative by now as the regular media.

Same here, Flash. I hear the same old lines from everyone in the alt media. So I ask myself what’s the best way to spend my days? I’d rather spend time on seeing what this body is designed to do. (The whole body.)

I rather that than to wait for ET’s to knock at my door, or long to return from where I came, or sit in fear that the earth will swallow up the east coast, or that I’ll be living under a bridge because my pension has been reduced because of mismanagement by the state, or, or, or.

Oops, I've gone off topic. Simply put:
https://i.imgur.com/wTlYXrZ.gifThe alt media is like the New Age movement. It’s a religion that’s reached it’s sell-by-date.

[johnf]

I agree with Diziblueyez and Mike.

I have followed MD for some years and the significant consciousness expansion she had gone through with her ET encounters. Some of these encounters provides challenging integrations for balancing one’s electrical system, this could go on for years.

We decide after these events what choices of paths we make in this world.
For some they feel they have to go public with its ramifications or for some go privately and quietly still making significant contributions that appears as normalization for others in that process. Going privately, I mean creating our own reality that also has ramifications through the quantum field. It doesn’t mean exposing oneself publicly. Therefore, having developed one’s empowerment, whatever extreme information one encounters, in MDs case, shouldn’t have resulted with destabilization of one’s being.

The PTB are afraid of who the invisible ‘others’ are as compared to awakened individuals who are known in the alternative community. Bill Ryan in Q&A has reiterated a rare friend of his who is one of these individuals. I’m sorry that I may have appeared to be off topic but the above has to be taken into context with MDs circumstances.


I found this post to be very grounding, in what I see to be a very dramatic thread. I have followed a wide variety of speakers that I learned about from this forum as well as Camelot, MD was one of them ,and at times I felt thrown off by her and over the years I realized I was better off focusing on her work with the great gathering idea. I think that the things happening across the world with indigenous peoples is a very important subject and is something that gives me encouragement in spite of how badly things appear these days.
I do not consider myself to be an et experiencer, although I do seem to have some early memories that may be masking such things ,so I don't really get much out of following those stories, except that there are things out there, or perhaps more aptly "in there" that can induce very real seeming realities that can not be differentiated from our "ordinary" one.

So having said all that I will say that I was there on facebook when Miriam first posted about her running into child porn, and the reaction then was nothing like what she is showing in this video. I feel like there was a period of pre-shock, where she took some action, and made some reports to some sort of authorities, that led to the threats she is rather distraught by in the first video in this thread. It seems to be a situation where an extremely painful experience collides with a somewhat raw open feeling center, and I can see why so many people are reacting the way they are.


But the story isn't over and I only know a little, so I need to focus on that and not jump to any conclusions until a time when I get more verifiable info on the situation.


John

[Denise/Dizi]

Oh, her Twitter (https://twitter.com/MiriamDelicado/status/1092261875205705729) has an update as of Sunday evening (3rd Feb) :


I am ok. Need time to take care of things. My team and I are working on things to resolve the issue. SHARE this update. Miriam

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Indigris, I spent last evening trying to find Miriam Delicado’s YouTube channel and gave one more check today

The one I found (that isn't there now) is called : AlienBlueStar (https://www.youtube.com/user/alienbluestar)

The last snapshot from WayBackMachine is from Feb 2016, it's here (https://web.archive.org/web/20160212073743/https://www.youtube.com/user/alienbluestar) (if I've got the the right one ?)

But it's good to hear she's ok eh ? :thumbsup:

It is good to hear she is ok. I fear that people may think that my frustration with the field in general, that was sparked by her "last straw asking for money" twice in two months, was a reflection about what I thought about HER personally.. She does kind of strike me as the type to feel like she is "above" getting into trouble for digging too deep. Didn't she once follow an et home? Giggle.. I suppose that's NOT funny.. But I certainly don't wish her any ill will...

[Webz Libri]

I just read all 5 pages of this thread.... Someone owes me some money!

[Denise/Dizi]

i just read all 5 pages of this thread.... Someone owes me some money!

hahahaha...

I suppose that's funny to me because I don't know who is actually behind the avatars thus far on this forum. That could be Alfred LM.. Who just posted that for all I know, in which case, that's hysterical...

[ExomatrixTV]

There are many ways why asking for donations/support:

01. you want to do more than you can do now, but you still are able to to do basics to be alive on this planet ...

02. you need money to survive your own incompetence how to manage your own choices of spending money wisely and do not know how to earn money without begging for it.

03. you feel that you have done so much voluntary work for free for others for so long (I can related to that strongly), always taking care of others ... you totally forgot you need to take care of yourself first without blaming others you can not do that properly anymore (but somehow some end up doing exactly that). If you being genuine spiritual all your life and helping those in need meanwhile most do NOT see you doing it and you do not get any financial support you may end up being extremely frustrated!

04. Nobody is obligated to donate anything, so why whine about it? ... Maybe because they question the motives of anything you do when you become desperate? ... Some see it as a desperate act, even if true, you may judge from a comfortable position not standing in her shoes ... But there is certain behavior-change when people tend to be in need of money no matter who it is. And we all may have had bad experiences with "friends" needing money, how it alters their actions & behavior.

Best way to ask financial help is to describe exactly what you want to use it for, how, where and when. When that becomes very clear and people SEE you did it ... I see no problem with people supporting some one that way! ... I have gotten donations to go to Dresden in Germany to Report on The Bilderberg Conference Protests 2016. And I was very specific how I gonna spend it. Because of that all worked out just fine :)

cheers.
John Kuhles

[Spaceball Ricochet]

You would always hope that the agendas of others are about establishing the reality of the bigger picture rather than basking in escapism..or escalating the cashing-in culture surrounding the subject that seems to reach into all corners. There's an obvious and vulgar irony for eg. about some of the spiritual gurus who with their eyewash fleece the gullible for the folding stuff and then kick on about the pitfalls of greed and materialism..How many are genuinely wanting to spread the word without their eyes being lit up by pounds and dollar signs?

[Denise/Dizi]

Best way to ask financial help is to describe exactly what you want to use it for, how, where and when. When that becomes very clear and people SEE you did it ... I see no problem with people supporting some one that way! ... I have gotten donations to go to Dresden in Germany to Report on The Bilderberg Conference Protests 2016. And I was very specific how I gonna spend it. Because of that all worked out just fine :)

cheers.
John Kuhles

That's just it, I am aware people are free to ask, and receive. And perhaps we should shut our mouths when we have our own reasons for not giving... However there is a trend that seems to be going on in this particular field. People claiming hardships, yet not accounting for what they are being given. For example I believe Wilcock asked for a substantial amount of money, to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars once for a movie project that never happened... People asked for progress reports, updates, got nothing.. None of these people are held accountable for where these "Donations" are going, and they're left, like the rest of us, to only get back what those charlatans are feeding everyone. (Did you SEE the images of his wedding? for someone struggling, he surely had an over the top wedding, and the images of his fallen tree indicate that the house that he lives in is far from substandard)

The same thing is now happening with To The Stars Academy... I can't IMAGINE how much GREER got for his "TECHNOLOGY REPRODUCTION" for the free energy devices that he was collecting for.. that HE was going to do... Yet no one even discusses that this went NOWHERE... No one complains because they feel stupid for giving the money to begin with....

The moral to that story is never give more than you're willing to lose on a bet.

We seem to have a trend that is quickly becoming the NORM in this field, and it is alarming.. And it NEEDS to be addressed... And until we weed out this parasitic part of the group overall, we wont be getting anything that is of any value, because they themselves are for sale to the highest bidder. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT.. They will tell you that they NEED the donations because if they don't get help, they too will have to get a real job, and they won't be able to keep sharing their enlightening content with us. I call BULL****... They can make videos after work, just like everyone else does. We have the internet now, INSTANT communications. It doesn't require that you travel across country now, get hotels, and go out to eat... Many are now supplementing their income by POSTING videos. DAILY almost.. IF people wish to go cross country to interview someone, that's fine, but ACCOUNT for the funds if you're going to request them from your supporters..... "I need traveling expenses so I can interview SO and SO".. Doesn't cut it with me anymore... There as a time for that.. But those days are long gone with the internet.... I need funds to eat.. Wait, how do you NORMALLY EAT when you're at home? Use THAT money to eat.. When you see some of their homes, they're certainly NOT HURTING.. Not in the realm of what I consider to be a struggle in any stretch of the word... When I am hungry and broke, I eat soup, I don't ask for donations and go out to a five star restaurant.

My thought on this "Service to Others " GIG.. Is this. If you're going to be completely reliant on donations... Then you MUST BE 100% transparent with where those donations are going.. If I work for someone, they monitor what I am doing before they pay me for the job, that's how things work in the real world. If I take a 2 hour lunch, they dock me for that time, and don't pay me.. Yet these people have found a loophole. Vulnerability, and a desire for knowledge.. And they're blowing it right open and sucking from that, in ways that blow my mind... The thing is, when people give and give and give and nothing new comes out of it, you begin to question what they're doing with all that. And it taints the scene entirely. Not to mention you begin to wonder who is funding their efforts. Better to promote someone who is a roadblock than someone who has real truth to share, you see what I mean?

If someone is working for the people as they CLAIM they are, they should list their expenses.. Home, vehicle, utilities... etc.. THEN list their expenses for these events. and the trips they take to get information. The events pay for them to get there , their rooms, their meals.. we shouldn't be funding those as well... (Unless they're attending as a bystander and not an invited guest speaker).. And if that's the case why are these people thinking that we should be funding their trips for such nonsense? If they do interviews at the events those are free material essentially... If they need new equipment, then list it. Kerry asked for help getting a new computer awhile back. That's fair if she is using it for interviews.. But it is the rogue element that have seen it is working for others, and if they can just swallow their pride a bit, why NOT ask for free money right? No one ever asks them were it went to so why not? You have to PAY most of these people to share their time with you.. Service to others my butt...

Having said that however... There is a place for these people on the scene, they keep awareness at the forefront for those just waking up, and their events provide a place for those like us who have had experiences to gather and discuss such things.. They need the more popular names to draw others in.. Sad this is how things work, but it is true.. WE are causing our own scene to wallow in one place because we demand the NAME RECOGNITION, rather than the CONTENT.. I think these people begin to get "Star fever". I am NOT going to UfoMegaCon to "Meet any stars"... I am going to meet the people attending the event. And A few of those behind the scenes that i have spoken to on a personal level.. The rest, in my opinion is nothing more than a stage to keep things flowing forward.. And it has become nothing more than a circus in my opinion. When people start asking for money to eat when they're traveling. it raises my eyebrows... Why don't you just use the money that you NORMALLY would buy your food with, or pack a lunch like everyone else?

That's when I begin to start thinking, these people believe they are better than us, and we are thereby fortunate to be in their presence... and we somehow owe them for what they're doing. THEY'RE WRONG. This life choice was theirs to make, not ours... And I am sure there are plenty waiting in the wings that would be happy with the accommodations if they were given a place to discuss such things on a panel. It's just something that we ALL need to be aware of that is happening behind the scenes, and I think we need to make sure that those we DO help, truly need the help or are using the funds their receiving for the reasons they claims that they need them.

If I hear one more person claim that they need help because they were too busy doing conferences to "Get the message out", to even take care of their basic needs, I think I am going to vomit.. MAKE ONE VIDEO with all the information.. It's THAT SIMPLE. If they truly wanted to be of service to others they would make videos covering what they know, not dragging it out like a child dragging a wet blanket.. Make no mistake about that. Those really sharing knowledge get it out FAST and HIDE.

I just felt it was worthy of noting these opinions because there is an entirely new generation coming up behind ours that need to know the seedier side of the disclosure arena.. I Don't take vacations, in fact this trip to Laughlin is the FIRST vacation I have taken in the last 22 years. And that's no joke. Why not? Because I had bills, and obligations... I didn't ask anyone to fund my trip, nor would I ever do such a thing... I paid for my room, car, flight, and Yes I will be buying my own meals.I live within my means, and I am paying for this all by myself, THAT is taking care of business...

I don't WANT information from someone that is "ON THE TAKE"...

It's kind of like Congress where we need TERM LIMITS.. Not "Lifers" The lifers forget why they're doing what they do, and they stop everything and try to turn it into their career, and YES the subject does become life consuming... But $2,000 a person for each event.. Is a JOKE. Asking people for donations that total more than I make in a month is a joke. They want a better lifestyle than that which we can afford ourselves.. I don't know about anyone else, but I am repulsed when people ask for their expenses back for the "Luxury" of hearing them speak.. Make a video, that's FREE...

If people are so broke that they can't afford to eat when at these events, perhaps they shouldn't go to them. It's THAT simple.

Perhaps if someone began to hold these people ACCOUNTABLE. Not only would they present real (PROVABLE) enlightening information, but they would step aside when they have reaching the limits of their knowledge. I am sorry but NO ONE on the circuit knows enough about the field, to turn it into a lifelong career just to get that personal knowledge out. AND LITTLE TO NONE OF THEM provide PROOF of ANYTHING.. yet they drag it out year after year.. And perhaps if we began to actually hold these people accountable to both their information, AND their claims, as well as their intentions in what they're truly doing.. Then perhaps we will get somewhere overall.. Call me the ufo police, the disclosure police, call it whatever you want, but it has to be done, if we are going to get anywhere...

It's time we weed out the dandelions in the garden...

[Denise/Dizi]

You would always hope that the agendas of others are about establishing the reality of the bigger picture rather than basking in escapism..or escalating the cashing-in culture surrounding the subject that seems to reach into all corners. There's an obvious and vulgar irony for eg. about some of the spiritual gurus who with their eyewash fleece the gullible for the folding stuff and then kick on about the pitfalls of greed and materialism..How many are genuinely wanting to spread the word without their eyes being lit up by pounds and dollar signs?

Sadly there will always be those that believe they are doing good for mankind, so long as they use the kinder side of the population to do "Those works".. I believe it was in the Bible where it is said that good deeds cost nothing.. Give what you have freely, ask for nothing, and have little expectations of receiving. Yet all of those claiming to be "Service to others" think that it's fair game to ask others for help in doing it BEFORE they even TRY to take care of themselves and their own obligations.. Money is a powerful draw when you want something.. That's not being "Service to Others" at all, that's profiting from their desire to learn what you think that you want to know, and using those around you to facilitate that desire... And calling it being Service to others".. . The whole "Service to others" community is suffering a crisis of true understanding of what that even means. And they're preying on the population in many ways... Claiming they're "helping people"...

I have yet to see ANY of the information that any one of these people have shared, truly help humanity in any way. If anything, they confuse them, give them false hopes, fears, and none of it is provable. Those making predictions are always wrong, and those who are claiming they have all the answers, refuse to really share anything of value. I find more enlightening information in the private messages that I exchange with other contactees and experiencers, as well as those that have been abducted, than what these people that are asking for money, present on stage as FACTUAL information, yet they have no proof... Most, if not all of them fall short in providing proof of anything. I tend to listen to those that have experienced the phenomenon as a result..

There is a new trend of warriors in keeping the "Truth movement" honest. And I am so glad to see it happening... I was mortified when I had my experiences and went looking for information, at what I found.. Researchers attacking researchers, there is no honor among thieves, and the ones who get along are those willing to admit they truly DON'T have all the answers. Yet many will walk right up to you with the posture that they're the next biggest thing in the arena of TRUTH. When none of their information is even theirs to begin with, they got it from researching the CLAIMS of others. It's truly a mess...

I think the truth movement has gone awry. This is why I love Avalon so much.. It is truly the only place that I have found where people can openly discuss such things and banter back and forth about what it all means.. Some will claim to know, but really we're ALL guessing based upon our own experiences... And that's ok.. So long as we all do so in a kind and respectful manner. I just get very annoyed when I see so many people in the field pandering for cash outside of what they claim to be doing. It is very disheartening. Someone above said it beautifully.. ACCOUNTABILITY..

It made me laugh because it reminded me of a South Park episode where Butters had an "Accountability Buddy" or a Accountabilibuddy" HAHAHA.. It's just time, we regroup and refocus on what this was SUPPOSED TO BE.. The field as a whole... And money is NEEDED in this society sadly, so it sure does sway people to lose their original intended focus. When I saw Mariam's request for $2,500.00 for JUST the month of November, I wanted to throw up.. THAT was what sparked my posts. You know me, I don't get upset like this openly.. But I felt it was worthy of addressing if I want to stay in a field where truth means something...

[Clear Light]

Ah, for those interested and that have a Facebook account (or you could set one up beforehand to view it), Miriam (https://www.facebook.com/miriam.delicado) says she is going to do a Facebook Livestream at 1pm PST (9pm GMT) this Thursday 7th :

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I presume more information will be forthcoming to perhaps enlighten us all as to what's going on eh ?

:sherlock:

[Bubu]

The gangster is so happy that many people immerse themselves into an incredibly low vibe. Wailing woman. I suppose grown ups dont wail.
maybe they purposely threatened alternative nuts like wilcock to wail in front of us.
This woman is really in distress, (honest opinion) but for what reason.

[Soda]

The gangster is so happy that many people immerse themselves into an incredibly low vibe. Wailing woman. I suppose grown ups dont wail.
maybe they purposely threatened alternative nuts like wilcock to wail in front of us.
This woman is really in distress, (honest opinion) but for what reason.

Mods, please move this post if you need. I only bring this up here on this thread because Diziblueyez's post about what's his name was brilliant and spot on. I do have to make a slight correction though because the ten grand for the supposed movie was technically an investment and not a donation. The contract stated very clearly that the risk was all ours. However, he promised us he would communicate with all of his his investors on a regular basis regarding the project and how the funds would be spent, etc. but none of us ever heard from him again. I have NOT watched this "Deep State Predictions 2019: Major Data Dump with DAVID WILCOCK [Part 1/5!)" YET but just wanted to say "he's back guys" :ROFL::dancing: Not sure I can stomach his voice or face for very long but if anyone out there ends up watching all five parts please do share highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am1GTR3_SdM

[Webz Libri]

i just read all 5 pages of this thread.... Someone owes me some money!

hahahaha...

I suppose that's funny to me because I don't know who is actually behind the avatars thus far on this forum. That could be Alfred LM.. Who just posted that for all I know, in which case, that's hysterical...

I think you're the only one with a sense of humor...:happythumbsup:. by the way I'm Rob.

[Denise/Dizi]

i just read all 5 pages of this thread.... Someone owes me some money!

hahahaha...

I suppose that's funny to me because I don't know who is actually behind the avatars thus far on this forum. That could be Alfred LM.. Who just posted that for all I know, in which case, that's hysterical...

I think you're the only one with a sense of humor...:happythumbsup:. by the way I'm Rob.
Nice to meet you Rob, my name is Denise.. :D

[eagle0027]

Im laughing with regard to your take on listening to D.W.s voice...although i really did like some of his earlier stuff...havent been able to stomach listening to him nor many others for a few years now.Funny how that happens.
And yea dizzibueeyez...Enelia Benz is another with the hand out for apparent repairs on the boat she was living on...whelst having a pretty good price on her books etc.Whatever happened to manifesting methods that should be second nature for her at least.
Ed

[Pam]

The gangster is so happy that many people immerse themselves into an incredibly low vibe. Wailing woman. I suppose grown ups dont wail.
maybe they purposely threatened alternative nuts like wilcock to wail in front of us.
This woman is really in distress, (honest opinion) but for what reason.

You make a wonderful point here Bubu. We see someone in sincere distress and automatically assume the distress is based on what they say it is based on. We see someone that is dogged, intense and dedicated and assume those traits are because of their cause. We make the assumption that they are dedicated to the cause of revealing truth, but we don't really know that. Maybe they are dedicated to revenge,self promotion or monetary gain.

We look at their cause and if it seems noble we assume they are noble. Could that distress be because she can't come up with her rent? We don't really know. I have just recently come to realize that my intuition regarding someones behavior can only take me so far. I feel I can assess someones emotions or mental state pretty good, what I don't know is if that mental state is occurring for the reason I have assigned to it. How many people on this thread have bought into her story because she is genuinely upset??? Do you know for a fact what she is upset about? Were you manipulated by someone because you felt empathy for her distress?? Once again, why would someone choose to make a public video when they are distressed, rather than waiting till they calm down? Asking yourself these questions might really be worth while if your are a truth seeker. I do believe she made another video using the exact same technique.

[Iancorgi]

Diziblueyez first post on this thread is why I love this forum. When you think you're the only one being mesmerized by some "experiencers" asking us the commoners to shoulder their bills and their apparent inability to sustain themselves there will always come a time when someone will rise and speak for all of us.

Anyhow, I don't want to derail this thread but it could be a good idea to open a new thread referencing what some of the "Ubermenschen researchers" have requested from their audiences over the years and the alleged reasons for their urgent needs of $. Humor and laughter are the best weapons to expose authoritarianism and pathological delusion of grandeur so it could be both fun, helpful and a cathartic release for the Avalon community.

I understand people have to make a living and i'm not offended by requests for donations when there's meat on the bone and proper research material is made available regularly as a result of my contributions. That's where i would disagree with Diziblueyez as i find Richard Dolan and Daniel Litz are doing a great job even though they might be over stretching themselves a bit at times but as Lebowski would say "you got to feed the monkey" and to some extend this is understandable.

I recall a few instances where i was eagerly waiting for a little boy to yell "But the Emperor has no clothes" :

A few years ago people requested fund for John Lear so he could buy a new Air-conditioner because Las Vegas was so unbearably hot and he couldn't gather a few hundred dollars for a new unit.

I also remember several fundraising operations for Alex Collier. I believe it was for medical bills but I could be wrong.


The French "researcher" Thiery Jamin of Nazca Aliens fame constant request for money to run the ultimate and costly scientific test that will prove once and for all that the ancient alien theory is correct. It's been going on for years and the relevant French language forums are full of people crying fool and asking for their money back...

Corey Good...enough said.

Obviously these are just a few instances i remember off the top of my head so please add to the list and refresh my memory.

For John Lear and Alex Collier I believe some kind hearted folks took it upon themselves to organise the fundraising so it isn't a negative commentary on their ethic or the quality of their work. However like most people I found it hard to swallow that the holders of paradigm changing truths and world shattering secrets would be unable to pay their own electricity bill or visits to the Hospital. Having said that I'm not discounting the fact that accidents happen and even well organized individuals might need a lift sometimes but it just seems to happen too often in the Ufo research / New age arena to be purely coincidental.

Thanks again Diziblueyez for your refreshing posts.


Ps: 20 years ago on top of Tokyo tower I saw a strange light in the sky so if someone could take care of my upcoming garage bill that would be great also i need something for my wife for Valentine's day.

[RunningDeer]

A few years ago people requested fund for John Lear so he could buy a new Air-conditioner because Las Vegas was so unbearably hot and he couldn't gather a few hundred dollars for a new unit.

Correction: John Lear received $6,800. The most recent donation was a month ago.

John Lear Go-Fund-Me - Air Conditioner (https://www.gofundme.com/5gg7c8-air-conditioner)


https://i.imgur.com/Fqu7fXE.jpg

[Flash]

I agree with all of it. The only comment I have to reframe some tiny part are for hospital bills in the US. They are excessively costly, much much much more than in the rest of thee world. A few treatments for your mom cancer for example ca put your whole family in the street forever.

And the insurance you may pay are accordingly extremely costly too. No big enough corporate employer, no insurance (another form of slavery, you cannot quit your difficult employer) you have employer’s insurance, well they may cover only part of the cost.

Most people from developed countries cannot ever imagine how unjust and unfair and costly their medical system is v

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A few years ago people requested fund for John Lear so he could buy a new Air-conditioner because Las Vegas was so unbearably hot and he couldn't gather a few hundred dollars for a new unit.

Correction: John Lear received $6,800. The most recent donation was a month ago.

John Lear Go-Fund-Me - Air Conditioner (https://www.gofundme.com/5gg7c8-air-conditioner)


https://i.imgur.com/Fqu7fXE.jpg

Wow! I never had air conditioning in my whole house. Summer is as hot as Vegas here. Wow.

I am convinced once and for all to be as selfish. No giving.

It p i ss e. S me off

80% of the planet is starving, and we give to those who have plenty. We will never learn

[RunningDeer]

https://i.imgur.com/AkFnFCY.gif

I was taken in by Alex Collier and donated twice, maybe * three times. My wake up call was when I saw him in an interview with a glass of liquor. My donations were to put food on the table for his kids.

*Third time he was living out of a van.

Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend: "He's (Alex Collier) making this all up.” - see post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92880-What-is-the-consensus-on-Alex-Collier&p=1257049&viewfull=1#post1257049)


Alex Collier 14 Years After The Ground Breaking 1994 Interview
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[Clear Light]

The gangster is so happy that many people immerse themselves into an incredibly low vibe. Wailing woman. I suppose grown ups dont wail.
maybe they purposely threatened alternative nuts like wilcock to wail in front of us.
This woman is really in distress, (honest opinion) but for what reason.

You make a wonderful point here Bubu. We see someone in sincere distress and automatically assume the distress is based on what they say it is based on. We see someone that is dogged, intense and dedicated and assume those traits are because of their cause. We make the assumption that they are dedicated to the cause of revealing truth, but we don't really know that. Maybe they are dedicated to revenge,self promotion or monetary gain.

We look at their cause and if it seems noble we assume they are noble. Could that distress be because she can't come up with her rent? We don't really know. I have just recently come to realize that my intuition regarding someones behavior can only take me so far. I feel I can assess someones emotions or mental state pretty good, what I don't know is if that mental state is occurring for the reason I have assigned to it. How many people on this thread have bought into her story because she is genuinely upset??? Do you know for a fact what she is upset about? Were you manipulated by someone because you felt empathy for her distress?? Once again, why would someone choose to make a public video when they are distressed, rather than waiting till they calm down? Asking yourself these questions might really be worth while if your are a truth seeker. I do believe she made another video using the exact same technique.

Oh, just for the record, and reflecting upon what peterpam says above, I didn't actually watch the first video, having got the general impression that it was going to be 'emotive' suffice to say I shall also be at work until 11pm (GMT) tomorrow night and so won't be 'tuning in' for the follow-up !

But my point is you know how sometimes you 'click on a link' and decide to investigate further well that's the reason I'm still following through with it, it's not because I've bought into her story ... whatever it is ;)

[ALLARON]

David Wilcock, Corey Goode, Steven Greer, Emery Smith - are all fantasists. They say whatever they want with a tiny element of truth and a giant distortion of ego.
Steven Greer is obviously the most diabolical of the cons, having lured hundreds of thousands of dollars for "free energy" projects that had no oversight and ended up in his personal pockets. Emery Smith used to work with Greer but fled with Greer's entire team when they discovered Greer's crimes and believed Greer was trying to murder him and the other team members.
Laura Eisenhower is a nice person but she is famous for having turned down possibly a trip to Mars...she never went to Mars, never was in a secret whatever, and is always in distress....

Can't keep track with the hysteria or how easily people believe these stories with ZERO proof.

Miriam Delicado is significantly different than the self-promoters with the fancy stories. She has done serious work helping indigenous people, protecting the environment, and actively assisting others in need.

[RunningDeer]

Update - the video (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105881-Miriam-Delicado-has-a-big-story-to-blow-the-whistle-on-but-she-needs-our-help.&p=1272597&viewfull=1#post1272597) has been removed (or made private).


https://i.imgur.com/vX5x6Ne.jpg

[Pam]

A few years ago people requested fund for John Lear so he could buy a new Air-conditioner because Las Vegas was so unbearably hot and he couldn't gather a few hundred dollars for a new unit.

Correction: John Lear received $6,800. The most recent donation was a month ago.

John Lear Go-Fund-Me - Air Conditioner (https://www.gofundme.com/5gg7c8-air-conditioner)


https://i.imgur.com/Fqu7fXE.jpg

Wowie, Zowie... He must have enough money now for an air conditioner in every room. It kind of denies common since to keep giving to that cause, it's really easy to see he had enough money long ago to buy an air conditioner. It's interesting that no one took it down when the goal was accomplished. What does that say?

[Pam]

David Wilcock, Corey Goode, Steven Greer, Emery Smith - are all fantasists. They say whatever they want with a tiny element of truth and a giant distortion of ego.
Steven Greer is obviously the most diabolical of the cons, having lured hundreds of thousands of dollars for "free energy" projects that had no oversight and ended up in his personal pockets. Emery Smith used to work with Greer but fled with Greer's entire team when they discovered Greer's crimes and believed Greer was trying to murder him and the other team members.
Laura Eisenhower is a nice person but she is famous for having turned down possibly a trip to Mars...she never went to Mars, never was in a secret whatever, and is always in distress....

Can't keep track with the hysteria or how easily people believe these stories with ZERO proof.

Miriam Delicado is significantly different than the self-promoters with the fancy stories. She has done serious work helping indigenous people, protecting the environment, and actively assisting others in need.

Can you share with us specifically what Miriam has done? Why do indigenous people need her help? Think about that. This is the time where the word racist is thrown at someone at the drop of a hat. I actually find this concept racist. It's kind of cleverly hidden though. I am in no way stating this to you, personally. I have heard it already, many times. I do understand your intentions are good.

[Bubu]

A few years ago people requested fund for John Lear so he could buy a new Air-conditioner because Las Vegas was so unbearably hot and he couldn't gather a few hundred dollars for a new unit.

Correction: John Lear received $6,800. The most recent donation was a month ago.

John Lear Go-Fund-Me - Air Conditioner (https://www.gofundme.com/5gg7c8-air-conditioner)


https://i.imgur.com/Fqu7fXE.jpg

The next genre of alternative nuts will not ask a single cent from anyone so they are going to be more believable. But they will be generously funded. That is what profiling is for. I have a bad taste from any alternative guru since long time ago. As I have been warning this forum time and again "listen to your senses" there is enough point of reference from every day occurrence to come up with the real truth. "Truth is self explanatory" Gandhi
"truth dwells in simplicity while deceit hides in complexity"
I'm somewhat upset that real truth seekers are dupe into donating aside from being dupe into believing.

[Bubu]

David Wilcock, Corey Goode, Steven Greer, Emery Smith - are all fantasists. They say whatever they want with a tiny element of truth and a giant distortion of ego.
Steven Greer is obviously the most diabolical of the cons, having lured hundreds of thousands of dollars for "free energy" projects that had no oversight and ended up in his personal pockets. Emery Smith used to work with Greer but fled with Greer's entire team when they discovered Greer's crimes and believed Greer was trying to murder him and the other team members.
Laura Eisenhower is a nice person but she is famous for having turned down possibly a trip to Mars...she never went to Mars, never was in a secret whatever, and is always in distress....

Can't keep track with the hysteria or how easily people believe these stories with ZERO proof.

Miriam Delicado is significantly different than the self-promoters with the fancy stories. She has done serious work helping indigenous people, protecting the environment, and actively assisting others in need.

Can you share with us specifically what Miriam has done? Why do indigenous people need her help? Think about that. This is the time where the word racist is thrown at someone at the drop of a hat. I actually find this concept racist. It's kind of cleverly hidden though. I am in no way stating this to you, personally. I have heard it already, many times. I do understand your intentions are good.

Read the title it says it all

Miriam Delicado has a big story to blow the whistle on but she needs our help. why would she need our help when she can blow the lid already on that vids instead of wailing and saying nothing aside from " They are gonna kill me"

[ALLARON]

Can you share with us specifically what Miriam has done? Why do indigenous people need her help? Think about that. This is the time where the word racist is thrown at someone at the drop of a hat. I actually find this concept racist. It's kind of cleverly hidden though. I am in no way stating this to you, personally. I have heard it already, many times. I do understand your intentions are good.

Miriam has served as an ally for the Hopi Nation, a group of humans who have been under massive assault, attempted genocide, attempted swindling and taking of their water tables for coal companies, and currently a massive missing women and children human trafficking situation (affecting ALL the First Nations that intersect with the Man Camps set up by Oil and Gas companies for rape/prostitution) that law enforcement has either not taken seriously or is unable to take to justice.

If you think helping people who are under attack is racist, then I don't know what to say to you.

[Bubu]

Can you share with us specifically what Miriam has done? Why do indigenous people need her help? Think about that. This is the time where the word racist is thrown at someone at the drop of a hat. I actually find this concept racist. It's kind of cleverly hidden though. I am in no way stating this to you, personally. I have heard it already, many times. I do understand your intentions are good.

Miriam has served as an ally for the Hopi Nation, a group of humans who have been under massive assault, attempted genocide, attempted swindling and taking of their water tables for coal companies, and currently a massive missing women and children human trafficking situation (affecting ALL the First Nations that intersect with the Man Camps set up by Oil and Gas companies for rape/prostitution) that law enforcement has either not taken seriously or is unable to take to justice.

If you think helping people who are under attack is racist, then I don't know what to say to you.

Well, nobody goes fishing without a bait. Every single crook out there needs one to catch fish. in other words each one of them says some truth or done some good.

[Bubu]

Could that distress be because she can't come up with her rent?

Make that 3 month rent to at least match the distress level.:happythumbsup:

[RunningDeer]

The next genre of alternative nuts will not ask a single cent from anyone so they are going to be more believable. But they will be generously funded. That is what profiling is for. I have a bad taste from any alternative guru since long time ago. As I have been warning this forum time and again "listen to your senses" there is enough point of reference from every day occurrence to come up with the real truth. "Truth is self explanatory" Gandhi
"truth dwells in simplicity while deceit hides in complexity"
I'm somewhat upset that real truth seekers are dupe into donating aside from being dupe into believing.

Motivational public speaker and spiritual coach, (her labels) Teresa Yanaros, of the Corey Clan, uses a different tactic. You get to pick from one of four tiers ranging from $25 to $100, when you purchase her book off her website. On Amazon it sells for $10.00 - $14.99
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hypnotize.gifhttp://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/im-ok.gif


https://i.imgur.com/1dgbWW7.jpg


On Amazon it sells for $10.00 - $14.99

https://i.imgur.com/vXse7uQ.jpg

[waves]

Can you share with us specifically what Miriam has done? Why do indigenous people need her help? Think about that. This is the time where the word racist is thrown at someone at the drop of a hat. I actually find this concept racist. It's kind of cleverly hidden though. I am in no way stating this to you, personally. I have heard it already, many times. I do understand your intentions are good.

Miriam has served as an ally for the Hopi Nation, a group of humans who have been under massive assault, attempted genocide, attempted swindling and taking of their water tables for coal companies, and currently a massive missing women and children human trafficking situation (affecting ALL the First Nations that intersect with the Man Camps set up by Oil and Gas companies for rape/prostitution) that law enforcement has either not taken seriously or is unable to take to justice.....

ALLARON, the Hopi plight is understood and we all know Miriam has sold herself as 'serving them' for years. But are you just repeating her cover story?

What proof do you have of what she's specifically done that accounts for years of full time work in lieu of any real job to support herself?

The now deleted OP video has pushed the buttons of a few of us that are ramping up our resistance to truthers and activists who make claims of 'time demanding service' they can't prove their full time activity for, obviously won't get a job, keep asking for money and in this case, possibly lying a big sympathy con-job on top of it.

[Bubu]

The next genre of alternative nuts will not ask a single cent from anyone so they are going to be more believable. But they will be generously funded. That is what profiling is for. I have a bad taste from any alternative guru since long time ago. As I have been warning this forum time and again "listen to your senses" there is enough point of reference from every day occurrence to come up with the real truth. "Truth is self explanatory" Gandhi
"truth dwells in simplicity while deceit hides in complexity"
I'm somewhat upset that real truth seekers are dupe into donating aside from being dupe into believing.

Motivational public speaker and spiritual coach, (her labels) Teresa Yanaros, of the Corey Clan, uses a different tactic. You get to pick from one of four tiers ranging from $25 to $100, when you purchase her book off her website. On Amazon it sells for $10.00 - $14.99
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hypnotize.gifhttp://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/im-ok.gif


https://i.imgur.com/1dgbWW7.jpg


On Amazon it sells for $10.00 - $14.99

https://i.imgur.com/vXse7uQ.jpg

I see there is new brand of business minded people I will call then alternative conassholes. "fill the need and you got a business". they somehow fill the need of people for the truth. And to think that we been living in virtually all lies and that many more people are yet to get a glimpse of alternatives, boy this is a billion $ business.
and the books are signed by the celebrity conasshole writers for more $. very creative.

[Satori]

The quote from Gandhi above put me in mind of this: "Not knowing where truth is, people seek it far away. They are like he who in the midst of water cries out in thirst so imploringly." Confucius (If I recall correctly).

[ExomatrixTV]

@Diziblueyez (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?32267-Diziblueyez)

What about this Empirical "Genuine Support Phenomena" Experiment:

You own a site and you are very pro active activist doing all kinds of stuff for free ... all volentary work, efforts, studying, labor, counseling, translating stuff, managing sites forums fb groups, fighting all kinds of injustice etc. etc.) ... if you would have been payed for all you did last years you would be beyond "average" ;) but for now, you are not.

If you, one day, decide that you want to be supported by people that ACTUALLY want to do the same as you do but have NO TIME for it and really appreciate your work & efforts ... those people even feel like you do ... totally resonate why you are fighting corporations, censorship, fakestream MSM media, exposing all kinds of corruption & injustice etc ... those people may WANT to help you continue your efforts as good as you possible can and appreciate already what you have done last years.

Those supporters DO exists! To be sure, you want to put that "genuine support phenomena" to the test:

On your site you can create 4 color donation buttons:

Button 1. (Blue) ... Click here to donate money to support my (our) efforts without the need I (we) explain exactly where, when, what it is spent for. Even if it is only used to be alive ... to eat, to pay rent ... does not matter ... you see already I (we) worked/produced so much for free (voluntary work etc.) that you want me (us) to continue our efforts.

Button 2. (Red) ... Click here to donate money to support my (our) efforts WITH the need I (we) explain exactly where, when, what it is spent for. How much & why. Also you want to know it in advance what you can expect where it will be used for. 100% Accountability!

Button 3. (Green) ... Click here to donate money to support my (our) efforts but you want some influence and be part of what the priorities are. That all big donators can be part of a internal poll what to do first for example.

Button 4. (Purple) ... Click here to donate money to support my (our) efforts but you want to be a "sponsor" promotion & advertisements that is related to our (my) cause and the adds / promotion must not be a hoax or a scam.

Now when you do this (semi-psychological) empirical test, having all stats ready after a month ... you can see/study exactly how many CARE to know what you do with the received donation money ... and how many just trust you no matter what, even if you only use it for food or to pay rent ... they do not mind. Now if this is the case ... should others whine/complain/be angry about that fact?


--o-O-o--


You do things NOT because you have high expectations of how others act & react ... you do things certain way because you feel, sense it is the RIGHT WAY no matter how it is received or how ill some people can be! ... Results driven activism CAN be very addictive if you have success BUT it must not be your core reason to do so! (it is a spiritual battle as well). See yourself as planting seeds of considerations for the uninformed. If others are incompetent to ACT accordingly could have 100s of reasons ... eventually when reality unfolds you have the truth on your side and will be vindicated anyway. Do not underestimate the long-term effect of lots of "insiders" (key-people) who are on your side but NOT yet been able to do something now but eventually will!

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[Flash]

3 points:

1. All I know is that I do not know yet what Delicado was speaking about. Although she may have taken a road that was paying her personal bills, and that I sm skeptic on the efficiency of her actions, I have to wait, because I do not know.

2. As for the Goodee and Yanaros like, the proof was in the pudding right from start. Anger and deceit are not the mark of any evolved being, mostly if they are constant. I must add that witchcraft is not of higher beings either -it is controlled by the ego. Plus even when I was myself inmy twenties, I already intuitively knew that spiritual coach are not true if in their twenties because they are still in apiritual diapers. The body misses a few years of development to receive the full active soul. Imo

3. Charities when well managed have public books. If some people are doing real work for others and need some funds, I would be ready to give, but show the accounting or be ready to do so.

Believe it or not, even for Bill I have made a general accounting based on what I knew of forums cost and of charities moneys reserved for admin (which includes paying their employees so that they can live and pay their bills). Consequently, I gave. He looked straight forward and genuine when deducing his accounting.

Some others held in high esteem here, I never gave and never will.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Respectfully, Flash. Maybe that is why most of the wizards here have moved on - they are not wanted and their powers unappreciated.

[Flash]

Respectfully, Flash. Maybe that is why most ofvthe wizards here have moved on - they are not wanted and their powers unappreciated.

This is what I think or know Ernie. It doesn’t stop anybody to come here and have their threads, as long as we all respect each other.

But I am definitely not obliged to believe in it or to trust them. I just would not get much involved in those threads.

[Clear Light]

Oh, I'm just back from work and about to jump in the shower but as of now (~ Midnight GMT) Miriam's video from tonight has had 400+ viewings and has nearly 100 comments and is just over 19 minutes long (57Mb).

For very good reasons some Avalonians don't "do" Facebook so I'm sharing it from my Google Drive if you'd like to view it ... here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1A0PB4OfXnDCmVZmdHilL0M1TCqVB1hyG) ;)

:sherlock:

[Clear Light]

Oh, so in a nutshell (if I may summarise it eh ?), she accidentally stumbled across something "deeply disturbing" (criminal) on Facebook that she subsequently reported to the "correct authorities".

Though she is currently unwilling to share any further details she does voice the possibility that at some point in the future she may be able to talk about it more openly.

She wants her viewers to know she is safe, that she's OK ... she apologises for the way she came across in the previous video (but it was because of the content of what she saw).

However in the immediate future, her presence on Social Media will likely be much reduced as she feels she needs some time to Heal :bearhug:

[waves]

(~ Midnight GMT) Miriam's video from tonight has had 400+ viewings and has nearly 100 comments and is just over 19 minutes long (57Mb).
For very good reasons some Avalonians don't "do" Facebook so I'm sharing it from my Google Drive if you'd like to view it ... here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1A0PB4OfXnDCmVZmdHilL0M1TCqVB1hyG)


I couldn't get the video to play, but I could play the audio separately.
It's the most evasive crock of BS I've ever run across in the alt community.
I know it's opinion, but I don't hear any authenticity in her voice.
There isn't any more substance in the 19 minutes than these quotes in blue italic...

"I discovered something on the internet that i found very disturbing."

"It has been reported to the authorities."

"I want to focus my attention on things that are supporting humanity and the earth... and take a bigger step in working with my humanitarian work and supporting that part of what I focus on. I can't really do that if I'm stretched so thin that I'm being pulled in 50 directions all at the same time. It's important to know that everyone knows i'm ok. When we as individuals find something that is deeply disturbing that is criminal and I did report it to the authorities.... we have to do what's right to protect people..."

After this very quick non-explanation she went right to saying "does anyone have any questions"

"What I found is not going to be released anytime soon"

"My shoulders are very heavy right now and I'm doing everything I can to insure that every step I take is going to support possible change and protecting people and insuring that when someone comes across something like I did, that we as the public know where to go to report it and how to report it and what to do with it because that system is not in place."

"There are other people I'm working with to support making positive changes to how we are moving forward on the internet." (As if speaking for the cabal, the internet controllers and the entire world's use of the internet??)

Someone asks, and she admits she found 'it' on Facebook.

"I cannot and will not give anyone any more details than what I've given."

"I refuse to get into the details. MAYBE sometime in the future I'll be able to talk about it."

"I'm probably going to be pretty quiet on social media for maybe a month because I need time to heal".

"I know I'm talking in circles, can't be helped. That's the way life is people'....

[Spellbound]

For very good reasons some Avalonians don't "do" Facebook

I don't do Facebook. I think it's evil. Thx for the video.

Dave - Toronto

[Spellbound]

It's the most evasive crock of BS I've ever run across in the alt community.


She still doesn't say what set her off. I don't understand when people do this. It's like the boy who cried wolf. If she found something on Facebook that was so ugly....guess what, it's Facebook, it's evil. Don't cry wolf about it publicly. The sky isn't falling. Of course, she may be able to talk about it at some point in the future (thereby luring more people in yet again). Lather, rinse, repeat.

Dave - Toronto

[Shadow]

I saw that video before it was removed. I recommended Miriam go on Joe Rogan's podcast.

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It's the most evasive crock of BS I've ever run across in the alt community.


She still doesn't say what set her off. I don't understand when people do this. It's like the boy who cried wolf. If she found something on Facebook that was so ugly....guess what, it's Facebook, it's evil. Don't cry wolf about it publicly. The sky isn't falling. Of course, she may be able to talk about it at some point in the future (thereby luring more people in yet again). Lather, rinse, repeat.

Dave - Toronto

I don't believe she made the claim that her information came from Facebook.

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One strange thing is that Miriam's website is under maintenance until March.

[Clear Light]

I don't believe she made the claim that her information came from Facebook

Hmmm, please have a listen at the 14:28 mark for where she mentions Facebook by name ...

:sherlock:

[Spellbound]

I don't believe she made the claim that her information came from Facebook.

Yes, you're right (my bad). She "stumbled upon something on the internet". That being said, the internet is a big place with lots to see (both good and bad). My point being, she should explain what exactly set her off and why she freaked out instead of making a big production saying she had a big story to blow the whistle on and she needs our help....without explaining herself. I imagine this brought a lot of attention to herself (just sayin'...).

Dave - Toronto

[Sandy123]

Richard Allen Miller was asking for donations to pay his rent a few years ago in an interview with Carrie Cassidy. A couple of these people were high level military and now retired. They don't know how to budget. Many of these people start out with a good heart and truth filled mission but get overtaken by ego.
The script is written, we play the parts, or we are in the audience but I refuse to pay, I'm going to write my own play and it will be free.

[Shadow]

I don't believe she made the claim that her information came from Facebook.

Yes, you're right (my bad). She "stumbled upon something on the internet". That being said, the internet is a big place with lots to see (both good and bad). My point being, she should explain what exactly set her off and why she freaked out instead of making a big production saying she had a big story to blow the whistle on and she needs our help....without explaining herself. I imagine this brought a lot of attention to herself (just sayin'...).

Dave - Toronto

I don't claim to have infallible knowledge or memory of everything she said, but I do not recall her identifying the source of her disturbing information. I don't recall her saying her information was from the Internet. Sorry if I am wrong.

[onawah]

I haven't been following this thread, so I don't know if anyone has posted the link to the following thread started in 2010 about Miriam , but here it is:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3712-Miriam-Delicado

[Flash]

I haven't been following this thread, so I don't know if anyone has posted the link to the following thread started in 2010 about Miriam , but here it is:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3712-Miriam-Delicado

Thank you Onawah, this is a nice thread and it gives her credibility.

However, I would still need to know what was the problem before I fork money.

[TomKat]

I haven't been following this thread, so I don't know if anyone has posted the link to the following thread started in 2010 about Miriam , but here it is:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3712-Miriam-Delicado

Thank you Onawah, this is a nice thread and it gives her credibility.

However, I would still need to know what was the problem before I fork money.

Delicado was on Coast in 2009 or so, and told a story about meeting aliens in Vancouver. She spoke with the halting "Arizona Wilder" type voice of someone making it up as she went along. She predicted a pole shift in 2010 and moved to Sedona because it was going to be the safest place. Sedona is a difficult place to make an honest living. She has tried to set herself up as some kind of public figure, spiritual leader. I'll send her some money... after the pole shift :-)

[Soullight]

Has anyone heard anymore about what happened with Miriam Delicado??

:sherlock:

[Denise/Dizi]

Has anyone heard anymore about what happened with Miriam Delicado??

:sherlock:

Not a PEEP.. Must not have been that important after all..

[HaveBlue]

We have seen this a number of times from Miriam Delicado. She is just reminding everyone she exists.
Like a flasher in a park, Miriam goes to open the trenchcoat but hesitates. We turn to look to see if there is anything there, and then put it down to a mirage though we thought we may see something..
It may be what the chans call 'concern fagging' and/or '****posting'.

[Denise/Dizi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydZONpxTRcY

Miriam is posting again on youtube, she must be ok.

I wrote to Miriam under this video, and she replied.. The reply is as follows..

Miriam Delicado
Highlighted reply
Miriam Delicado
17 minutes ago
Yes, I am ok now. It was a serious issue that I was finally able to find help to resolve. Information given to the people who can make a difference. Thank you for caring.

I just thought this would be some nice closure to some real concern for her well being. Great video too..

[Sue (Ayt)]

I haven't listened to this yet, and this is the most current thread I could find about Mariam Delicado. But it does make me wonder why she chose Michael Salla for her "first step back into public life."
I could relate to a lot of what she said in the past, though.
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The second half of that became very good worthwhile listening, that I recommend to all.

The first half had me hovering over the cancel button, especially when I heard them use the word humanitarian. I say that because I'm wary of Salla weaving the UN into whatever narrative he's engaged in.

And, when Miriam first spoke her first few sentences, she didn't have an obviously soulful presence. She never did have much all the way through, very intellectual and dry, but my own confirmation bias loved the later stuff. . . . I'm kidding.

Yea, thanks for posting Sue.