A theory of kidneys, high blood pressure and toxins (Bonus: how I'm treating an infected tooth)

[ThePythonicCow]

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It occurred to me this morning that the conventional (Western allopathetic) wisdom on kidneys and high blood pressure has the cart before the horse (as it so often does.) Apparently those doctors are neither horse veterinarians nor cart mechanics.

First, some background. What is a kidney, how is it constructed, and what does it do?

The kidneys are constructed much like the lungs. Both have bazillions of almost identical organelles, which do, in mass parallelism, the same task.

The organelles (alveoli) in the lungs transfer CO2 (carbon dioxide) from the blood to the air, and transfer O2 (oxygen) the opposite way.
The organelles (nephrons) in the kidneys are like miniature reverse osmosis filters, as they divide the incoming blood stream into two output streams, one containing more concentrated toxins that becomes urine, and the other containing cleaner blood that remains in circulation.
Unlike the liver, which is the complex laboratory of a Mad Scientist, able to store, release, construct and deconstruct a wide variety of compounds, the lungs and kidneys each do one thing, the same thing, in parallel, in high volume.

We each have two kidneys.

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There are about one million nephrons in the average human kidney:

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This video provides a short, delightful, explanation of how kidney nephrons work:
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From the BiologyDictionary.com (https://biologydictionary.net/nephron/):

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Nephron Definition

A nephron is the basic unit of structure in the kidney. A nephron is used separate to water, ions and small molecules from the blood, filter out wastes and toxins, and return needed molecules to the blood. The nephron functions through ultrafiltration. Ultrafiltration occurs when blood pressure forces water and other small molecules through tiny gaps in capillary walls. This substance, lacking the blood cells and large molecules in the bloodstream, is known as an ultrafiltrate. The ultrafiltrate travels through the various loops of the nephron, where water and important molecules are removed, and into a collecting duct which drains into the bladder.

Function of a Nephron

A nephron is responsible for removing waste products, stray ions, and excess water from the blood. The blood travels through the glomerulus, which is surrounded by the glomerular capsule. As the heart pumps the blood, the pressure created pushes small molecules through the capillaries and into the glomerular capsule.
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So ... what is my conjecture?

I would suggest that two of the reasons that the heart pumps stronger and faster, raising pulse rates and blood pressure, are:

Need more cowbell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8fpVNhiqKQ). No, not that one silly.
Need more lung, when working or exercising hard.
Need more kidney, when too much bad stuff in blood.

Michael Phelps will not breath as hard, nor pump his blood as hard, nor raise his blood pressure as much, after a couple of easy laps in the swimming pool as will Queen Margrethe of Demark.

Michael Phelps:
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Queen Margrethe:
http://thepythoniccow.us/Queen_Margrethe_of_Demark.jpg
That's because Michael has bigger and better lungs.

I would also suggest that high blood pressure does not cause kidney damage, but rather that damaged kidneys cause high blood pressure. If either (1) the supply of bad stuff into the blood (more toxins in our food, water, air and surrounds or more disease and inflammation in the body) goes up, or (2) if the filtering ability of the kidneys goes down, then I suppose that the body raises blood pressure, in an effort to get more filtering done by the kidneys.

The primary conjecture:
The body can (if tissues are healthy) handle a wide range of rates and pressures in the hearts, lungs, kidneys, and arteries. Moreover, the body will make good use of this flexibility, increasing or decreasing the rates and pressures, as more or less lung, or more or less kidney, function is needed.

What I've personally noticed, over the last couple of months, while dealing with an infection at the root of a tooth (brought on by my own neglect) is that my blood pressure rose when the infection was most actively releasing toxins into my blood, but that now as I have treated and substantially reduced the infection, my blood pressure first thing in the morning is back to its healthy low levels (about 115 over 65, give or take), but is still higher than normal for me during the day.

My speculation about these blood pressure readings is that I've reduced the toxic load from the infections sufficiently that my kidneys are able to catch up and get the blood clean sometime during the rest and healing time of sleep, but can't yet quite keep up as easily during the day, when I am active.

If I had a means to measure blood pressure several times during the night, as I slept, I predict that a measure of my health would be how soon in the night my blood pressure lowered down to its base level. The sooner in the night it lowered, the closer I would be to reducing the toxic load from the infection below what I could easily keep cleaned up.

Moral of the story (for me ... I am my doctor, not your doctor): Don't lower your blood pressure (especially not with prescription drugs) in order to save your kidneys. Rather lower the toxins in your blood, so as to save your kidneys, which will then naturally lower your blood pressure.

Bonus

My new experimental, short term, ameliorative, treatment for abscessed teeth: put 5 or 10 drops of Nascent Iodine in one tablespoon of water and swish that around your mouth a few times a day. Nascent Iodine, the alcohol tincture, when added to water, will (for the next hour or so) provide the most easily absorbed form of iodine available. So this should result in the tissues in the mouth having raised iodine levels. Iodine has long been used as a fast acting, broad spectrum antiseptic, and rather than being toxic itself to the body (as most presecription antibiotics are), iodine is an essential micro-nutrient (that we are often in short supply of in our diet.) Primarily through use of this treatment, along with large (20 or 30 gms/day) doses of Vitamin C, I lowered my morning blood pressure by about 40 points systolic and 20 points diastolic, and I lowered my C Reactive Protein (CRP) from 5.5 to 3.5. The oral infection has gone from quite discomforting, certainly chewing and even sleep disrupting, to hardly noticeable at all.

Caveat: the above speculations and treatment have never to my knowledge been tested in a double blind, placebo controlled, randomized, long running, large population cross over clinical trial. To the best of my knowledge, they have only ever been self-administered by one patient, myself, without adequate measurements or records, for one short time period. For all I know, they might cause your dog's hair to fall out and your parakeet to fall off its perch.

P.S. Yes, I do expect to pull the dead tooth. I am presently interviewing dentists for that work.

[avid]

As a sufferer of severe kidney stones since puberty, 3 major ops, many sessions under the vibrating lithotripsy machine to disintegrate stones to passable dust, I am excited by your observations. Nothing above helped me, still must logically drink loads to flush, don’t eat oxalic stuff like celery, rhubarb, asparagus etc. Years of nothing now - wondering if I will escape yet a ghastly final destruction due to stones, does chocolate count? Thanks Paul, you are almost always a great source to put one’s mind at rest, I never ever want to go through that agony again - the worst pain one can imagine, even when the evil woman with a canula stabs you directly in the back - yet misses - and has to do it again, to relieve kidney pressure, to place a temporary urine bag on your back, no anaesthesia. Nowadays, it will be fine, this sort of thing would never happen. Please moderate this post Paul, to private? Don’t want to scare folk, but need you to really know. Thanks...

After years, my blood pressure is still high, so resigned to medication.

Strangely, I have a severe phobia against dentists, probably due to unnecessary procedures, have you supplied a correlation? Or an excuse... 😉

[Valerie Villars]

Paul, just be careful with that tooth infection. If the infection is not addressed, the bacteria can damage your heart as in congestive heart failure. This happened to my stubborn grandfather, who refused to go to a dentist.

Interestingly, he was also on kidney dialysis, at home, but the doctors (well what do they know) said it was the bacteria in his blood stream, from the infected tooth which caused the heart to fail.

[Flash]

Your basic theory may make sense. I remember an ex member here who was bipolar and who was taking quite a load of lithium telling me that she constantly had kidney stones because of the lithium - and other kidney ailments. She was probably toxic. I am sure you know whom I am talking about, from Montreal;)

Also diabetis goes hand in hand with kidney problems if badly control because of the heavily taxing sugar in the blood that the kidneys have to process. So anything too heavy to filter would surely damage the kidneys

High blood pressure to increase theblood through kidneys, or to force the kidneys to open up to too heavy toxic material, would make sense too.

Thanks for your description of kidneys and their processes, very helpful.

[ThePythonicCow]

As a sufferer of severe kidney stones
Fortunately, I've missed out on being an expert, for lack of personal experience, formal education, training, clinical experience or research experience, regarding kidney stones :).

My current, perhaps totally misguided, understandings are: that kidney stones are calcium oxalate stones,
that they are more likey to form when there is excess free calcium in the body,
that too much calcium relative to its chemical alter-ego magnesium can cause this excess,
that raising magnesium levels is one way to restore calcium-magnesium balance, and
that besides diet, transdermal magnesium is also a good way to raise magnesium levels.
I have mentioned transdermal magnesium about a dozen times in the last eight years in my posts here. My symptoms for low magnesium are fortunately much less significant than other possible symptoms such as kidney stones, osteoporosis, and atrial fibrullation (aka heart attack). When my magnesium stores get low, I have a muscle in a minor old leg wound that twitches, or get minor calf muscle cramps when first waking up. I apply some transdermal magnesium a few times over the next few days, and the symptoms disappear for a while. I also have a lot of calcium in my diet, more than I need, as I have been very fond of dairy products (the best milk, cheese, and butter I can get) all my life. So I need a larger than average amount of magnesium to balance that.

To see my prior mentions of transdermal magnesium (though they might not say much more than I just did) go to Advanced Search (right side in page header), choose to "Show Results" as "Posts", with Keyword "transdermal", by "User Name" of "Paul" (checking "Exact Name") and then click "Search Now".


Please moderate this post Paul, to private?
I am not sure what you're requesting here. Nor do I see a reason to move your (quite fine) post out of public view, unless (quite possibly and reasonably) your concerns revolve around not disclosing some personal details publicly. Could you raise your concern or suggestion again and clarify for me? Thanks.


Strangely, I have a severe phobia against dentists, probably due to unnecessary procedures, have you supplied a correlation? Or an excuse... 😉
I personally don't have a phobia of dentists. My problem is more than I am bull headed. I don't do what experts tell me to do. Rather I have to figure it out myself, or die trying. Fortunately the "figuring out" has won over the "dying" part ... so far, and with sufficient success that I remain committed to this path.

My problems with dentists have not been so much with unnecessary procedures, as with "standard of care" procedures (mercury, root canals, fluoride, ...) and ignorance of the interaction of oral health with the health of the rest of the body.

Once I figure out that a particular procedure, that I lack the skills, experience, equipment and staff to perform on myself, is a procedure I want, then I shop for a dentist who has those skills, experience, equipment and staff, and who is enthusiastic about that procedure. That's what I am doing now, to permanently remove and clean out this current infection.

... however I probably didn't answer your question or cogently address your observation, because I didn't quite understand it. You're of course welcome to restate. Sorry.


Paul, just be careful with that tooth infection. If the infection is not addressed, the bacteria can damage your heart as in congestive heart failure. This happened to my stubborn grandfather, who refused to go to a dentist.

Interestingly, he was also on kidney dialysis, at home, but the doctors (well what do they know) said it was the bacteria in his blood stream, from the infected tooth which caused the heart to fail.
Yes - teeth and other oral (periodontal -- of the tissues around the tooth) disease are by some accounts the most prevalent, persistent, and pernicious source of major chronic illnesses and associated deaths, including coronary and cerebral artery diseases, cancers and Alzheimer's.

Either that oral infection goes or I go ... this body is not big enough for both of us.

While I find a good dentist (I need more work done than just this), my present short term tactic is to buy time, with various treatments as the afore mentioned iodine and Vitamin C, as well as ozone, both topically applied using ozonated hemp and/or olive oils and injected into the infected area by a dentist, and monitoring using blood tests for my C Reactive Protein and my blood pressure readings, as per above.

[pyrangello]

Reading your threads on this topic, years ago had high blood pressure, ran into a body builder on a plane, he told me to do the following : no fast food, no pop, no deep fried foods, and no dark liquor. I did that for 3 months and my blood pressure was perfectly normal after that, doc couldn't believe it.

Fast forward to 20 years now, guess what I have it again and am doing the program again. Didn't want to go on any meds. Problem is now I have that periodontal disease in a mild stage, My gums look great and so do my teeth, its just buried under so I'm gonna get that treatment done soon. And yes I have kidney stones but thank god its been a while since one of those babies dropped. And now to my blood pressure, I spoke to the doc the other day and he said if I keep doing what I'm doing I will be able to get off these blood pressure pills . Oh yeah and I have cramps too especially when I sweat at work. I'm a welder by trade, still work with alot of heavy stuff. But after doing this for over 40 years , yeah it takes it toll on your body.

I do think the periodontal thing is a big problem for the rest of problems and no I'm not going to let it go. The dentist told me 40-50% of Americans have some form of this and it is manageable as long as you go in for cleaning on a scheduled basis.Didn't go to the dentist for 7 years, didn't have any cavaties either even after all that time. But this other stuff creeped in there. So it goes , I thought I was taking care of my teeth but it needed the deep cleanings which I didn't do. I'll get it straightened out though. So yeah I think all of this is interconnected. Especially from what all you wrote. As always grateful for the avalon family. :)

[ErtheVessel]

Paul - this is such a great post, I want to clarify if this is a typo:


"Unlike the liver, which is the complex laboratory of a Mad Scientist, able to store, release, construct and deconstruct a wide variety of compounds, the lungs and livers each do one thing, the same thing, in parallel, in high volume."

Did you mean this to say "kidneys" ?

I think your theory makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing your health explorations!

[Bubu]

This is something I wanted to see. Trying to come up with how everything works since science only teaches us what is wrong almost all of the time.

Paul, what makes you thing that high blood pressure will damage kidney. do you think the pressure will rupture the kidney. Or is the mainstream telling us that. From my perspective increase blood pressure due to infection is due to the action of body to put more blood in circulation per unit time. In the case of kidney since the body wants to get rid of toxins at quickest possible time and the kidney is only functioning half of its capacity the body will attempt to pump double the blood to compensate for the kidney failure. But in a healthy person with nerves clean and functioning properly, blood pressure should increase only minutely. My other theory is that since modern human has an abundant of toxins more than the body can handle its either the kidney or the blood which will be sacrifice. Meaning if kidney tries to cope up more than it can handle then its breaks down due to stress. If however kidney says enough most of the toxins is stored in the blood. Remember blood is the vehicle of nutrients garbage and oxygen. If garbage is stored in the blood for failure of kidney to clean, the vehicle (blood) carries with it the garbage as it go with its journey around, delivery of nutrients oxygen and garbage is not efficient. That' s why the body becomes sick with less nutrients and oxygen and an abundance of garbage. It is with this scenario that a host of modern diseases kicks in. Starting from arthritis, diabetes, high blood, heart disease, cancer and many more. That is why for any modern disease I always go for blood cleansing first. Because no matter how much nutrition we stuff in our mouth without proper delivery it will still be malnutrition

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul - this is such a great post, I want to clarify if this is a typo:


"Unlike the liver, which is the complex laboratory of a Mad Scientist, able to store, release, construct and deconstruct a wide variety of compounds, the lungs and livers each do one thing, the same thing, in parallel, in high volume."

Did you mean this to say "kidneys" ?
Good catch, thanks! Fixed.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, what makes you thing that high blood pressure will damage kidney. do you think the pressure will rupture the kidney. Or is the mainstream telling us that.
I don't think that high blood pressure (within a wide range) damages kidneys.

Rather I figured (without really checking) that kidney damage would be one of the "consequences" (in the mainstream medical view) that people with high blood pressure would be warned about, by the mainstream medical doctors.

"If you don't get that blood pressure down, then your chances of bad outcomes X, Y, Z, and K (kidney failure) increase! Here's a prescription to lower your blood pressure." -- Mainstream Doctor
I would remind any such mainstream doctor that correlation is not causation. I will choose myself to seek out the primary causes of maladies, rather than try to mask the symptoms (with toxic and expensive pharmaceuticals that profit Big Pharma, no less.)

[Flash]

Paul, what makes you thing that high blood pressure will damage kidney. do you think the pressure will rupture the kidney. Or is the mainstream telling us that.
I don't think that high blood pressure (within a wide range) damages kidneys.

Rather I figured (without really checking) that kidney damage would be one of the "consequences" (in the mainstream medical view) that people with high blood pressure would be warned about, by the mainstream medical doctors.

"If you don't get that blood pressure down, then your chances of bad outcomes X, Y, Z, and K (kidney failure) increase! Here's a prescription to lower your blood pressure." -- Mainstream Doctor
I would remind any such mainstream doctor that correlation is not causation. I will choose myself to seek out the primary causes of maladies, rather than try to mask the symptoms (with toxic and expensive pharmaceuticals that profit Big Pharma, no less.)

With diabetis, the primary cause is diabetis, too much sugar in the blood. Which causes high blood pressure which both, sugar and high blood pressure, causes kidneys problems. Your toxins syndrome makes much sense as the primary source. Not blood pressure in itself being the source, blood pressure would not be the cause.

I am pretty sure most doctors know about that.

You have high blood pressure: control your sugar and exercise (to eliminate the sugar), they both may become more normal. This is what diabetics are told.

Making the jump to include all toxins is not that difficult.

[Bubu]

Paul, what makes you thing that high blood pressure will damage kidney. do you think the pressure will rupture the kidney. Or is the mainstream telling us that.
I don't think that high blood pressure (within a wide range) damages kidneys.

Rather I figured (without really checking) that kidney damage would be one of the "consequences" (in the mainstream medical view) that people with high blood pressure would be warned about, by the mainstream medical doctors.

"If you don't get that blood pressure down, then your chances of bad outcomes X, Y, Z, and K (kidney failure) increase! Here's a prescription to lower your blood pressure." -- Mainstream Doctor
I would remind any such mainstream doctor that correlation is not causation. I will choose myself to seek out the primary causes of maladies, rather than try to mask the symptoms (with toxic and expensive pharmaceuticals that profit Big Pharma, no less.)

With diabetis, the primary cause is diabetis, too much sugar in the blood. Which causes high blood pressure which both, sugar and high blood pressure, causes kidneys problems. Your toxins syndrome makes much sense as the primary source. Not blood pressure in itself being the source, blood pressure would not be the cause.

I am pretty sure most doctors know about that.

You have high blood pressure: control your sugar and exercise (to eliminate the sugar), they both may become more normal. This is what diabetics are told.

Making the jump to include all toxins is not that difficult.

"Diabetes is a chronic disease that occurs when the pancreas is no longer able to make insulin or when the body cannot make good use of the insulin it produces."

from this definition we can presume that to fix diabetes we need to fix the pancreas so it can produce insulin. MSM system however gives insulin instead, as if telling the pancreas its okay you can sleep forever we will provide the insulin forever. In the other type of diabetes its the inability of insulin to bind to sugars if I remember correctly its because of lack of coq10 which acts as a fuse.

[Bubu]

Paul, what makes you thing that high blood pressure will damage kidney. do you think the pressure will rupture the kidney. Or is the mainstream telling us that.
I don't think that high blood pressure (within a wide range) damages kidneys.

Rather I figured (without really checking) that kidney damage would be one of the "consequences" (in the mainstream medical view) that people with high blood pressure would be warned about, by the mainstream medical doctors.

"If you don't get that blood pressure down, then your chances of bad outcomes X, Y, Z, and K (kidney failure) increase! Here's a prescription to lower your blood pressure." -- Mainstream Doctor
I would remind any such mainstream doctor that correlation is not causation. I will choose myself to seek out the primary causes of maladies, rather than try to mask the symptoms (with toxic and expensive pharmaceuticals that profit Big Pharma, no less.)

yep there is a correlation as it comes from one cause, toxins. that is why these diseases normally go together, which MSM doctors call complications.

[Bubu]

Another scenario worth considering. With the body unable to get rid of garbage, dead tissues mostly, combined with high sugars in the system and with the action of microbione fermentation is most likely which is equal to acid. Cancer thrives in acidic environment and with less oxygen and of course arthritis is cause by to much uric acid. Clogged and hardened arteries are also a result of too much garbage and acid which is equal to high blood pressure or worse heart disease. No matter how I looked at it its always garbage. Well of course because modern civilization has lots of garbage thus modern diseases.

[ThePythonicCow]

You have high blood pressure: control your sugar and exercise (to eliminate the sugar), they both may become more normal. This is what diabetics are told.

Making the jump to include all toxins is not that difficult.

"Diabetes is a chronic disease that occurs when the pancreas is no longer able to make insulin or when the body cannot make good use of the insulin it produces."

from this definition we can presume that to fix diabetes we need to fix the pancreas so it can produce insulin.
For my own body, when I was becoming increasingly diabetic, I chose neither (1) injecting more insulin, nor (2) fixing the pancreas.

Rather I chose less sugar.

When you consume more sugar than you need right away, the body stores it as fat. Your muscles, liver and some other gut tissues are the primary storage areas. If you're a bulked up weight lifter with massive muscles, you can easily store lots of fat this way, and you are unlikely to become diabetic.

If one continues to consume more sugar than one uses for energy, to the point that the usual storage areas are "full", then the pancreas increases its insulin output. Insulin is the hormone that tells the storage areas (muscle, liver, ...) to take fat out of the blood stream and store it. The muscles, liver, ... become full of fat, but the pancreas continues to shout "Store More!". Eventually, the pancreas gets tired of doing this and its ability to produce insulin weakens. Then the "sugar -> fat -> storage" cycle fails and blood sugar levels rise.

Don't "fix" the pancreas to shout "Store More!" (make more insulin). Don't inject more insulin.

Cut the damn sugars! Dramatically lower them. (Advice to self; I am my doctor, not yours.) Sugar and other such easily digested carbohydrates) are not an essential nutrient. You need zero sugar in your diet. Much of the body can use either fats or sugars for energy, and the body can convert fat to sugar (glucose) for the modest needs of those metabolic processes that require sugar. You need zero sugar.

Fortuitously, cancers and pathogenic (bad) oral bacteria require sugars. They can't run on fats. That provides a second reason to avoid sugar. I would guess that someone consuming lots of Vitamin C and very little sugar would be quite unlikely to develop a serious case of cancer. Weston Price documented, a century ago, that primitive tribes consuming a diet without much sugar don't get tooth cavaties, even though none of them owned a toothbrush.

As I explained three years ago in the thread A major key to a long and healthy life: fasting or a ketogenic diet (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89036-A-major-key-to-a-long-and-healthy-life-fasting-or-a-ketogenic-diet), I am presently on a ketogenic diet.

A good ketone meter is useful, especially when first converting ones body from using sugars as the primary energy source to using fats. The one I used three years ago was a bit expensive. There's a new ketone meter out that looks, at first glance, promising (though I have not tried it personally): KETO-MOJO Blood Ketone and Glucose Testing Kit (https://amazon.com/gp/product/B0789G8KTG).

[ThePythonicCow]

Making the jump to include all toxins is not that difficult.
Well, not all toxins. The kidneys filter by some fairly simple size and chemistry properties. Many seriously bad toxins are not removed by the kidneys (heavy metals, halogens other than iodine, glyphosate, excess alcohol, etc, etc) The liver, various glands and in some cases some more specific chelating processes are needed to remove various other toxins.

[ThePythonicCow]

When you consume more sugar than you need right away, the body stores it as fat. Your muscles, liver and some other gut tissues are the primary storage areas. If you're a bulked up weight lifter with massive muscles, you can easily store lots of fat this way, and you are unlikely to become diabetic.
Women tend to have more muscle mass in their legs and butts ... useful when walking around with another child inside.

Men tend to have more torso and upper body muscle mass ... useful when converting a saber tooth tiger from a predatory threat into food for the family.

Hence women and men tend to get "fat" (on "modern day" diets that have extra sugar) in different places on their bodies.

[Ratszinger]

I think a big belly sitting on top of those kidneys is what puts the pressure on them to rise your BP and your heart rate to compensate much the same as your BP and heart rate rise when you have to go to the bath room pretty badly. Get rid of the belly weight off the kidneys and you just may be able to stop taking one or more of the pills you take now to control your BP. This was the case for me and also the fact that all my life without my knowing it I never emptied my bladder the way normal people do.

I could have 800 ml of urine in me and not even know I had to go to the rest room because my body gave me no sensation to have to go. As a result my BP was for all my life borderline high even when in the prime of life playing basketball daily at semi-pro. This because I was always carrying around excess urine never even knowing it. The fact is that once I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and they put a catheter in me for about ten days after the biopsy to detect it ( could not go naturally due to swelling after the surgery biopsy) suddenly my BP was normal due to now emptying my bladder likely for the first time in my life and I didn't have to take my BP pills! When I did take them they lowered my BP too much and I got faint!

Anyway, many factors contribute to blood pressure readings including what is going on between the ears at any given time.

[Bubu]

Paul, are you saying we dont need to eat sweet fruits?

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, are you saying we dont need to eat sweet fruits?

Well, we don't need to. Native Eskimos get along fine in the winter ... not a fresh fruit in sight.

But (1) I was speaking of sugar (glucose and similar), not fructose (the primary sweetener in fruit, which is digested more like alcohol than sugar), and (2) there are a variety of valuable nutrients in fruits.

I include a variety of fruits in my daily diet.

[Bubu]

I think a big belly sitting on top of those kidneys is what puts the pressure on them to rise your BP and your heart rate to compensate much the same as your BP and heart rate rise when you have to go to the bath room pretty badly. Get rid of the belly weight off the kidneys and you just may be able to stop taking one or more of the pills you take now to control your BP. This was the case for me and also the fact that all my life without my knowing it I never emptied my bladder the way normal people do.

I could have 800 ml of urine in me and not even know I had to go to the rest room because my body gave me no sensation to have to go. As a result my BP was for all my life borderline high even when in the prime of life playing basketball daily at semi-pro. This because I was always carrying around excess urine never even knowing it. The fact is that once I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and they put a catheter in me for about ten days after the biopsy to detect it ( could not go naturally due to swelling after the surgery biopsy) suddenly my BP was normal due to now emptying my bladder likely for the first time in my life and I didn't have to take my BP pills! When I did take them they lowered my BP too much and I got faint!

Anyway, many factors contribute to blood pressure readings including what is going on between the ears at any given time.

Interesting, since in a close system of dynamic fluid its almost always the filtering system that causes the pressure to get high. But then I recall that human nerves is different because its alive and dynamic meaning it changes constantly there is possibility of clogging contracting or hardening, so is the blood alive and dynamic.

I'm sure Micheal Phelps have lifeblood that are big and strong able to carry double the amount of oxygen for the body.

[ThePythonicCow]

I think a big belly sitting on top of those kidneys is what puts the pressure on them to rise your BP and your heart rate to compensate much the same as your BP and heart rate rise when you have to go to the bath room pretty badly. Get rid of the belly weight off the kidneys and you just may be able to stop taking one or more of the pills you take now to control your BP. This was the case for me and also the fact that all my life without my knowing it I never emptied my bladder the way normal people do.
Whatever you did to get rid of a big belly had other health benefits, resulting in lowered blood pressure (BP).

But the mechanism of improvement is likely not a simple matter of belly weight. For example, my systolic BP, on waking, varied by over 40 points in the last couple of months, as the success of my treating the oral infection varied. My body weight and belly size did not change much at all during that time.

I had no BP pills to stop taking. I've never taken one.

[Ratszinger]

I think a big belly sitting on top of those kidneys is what puts the pressure on them to rise your BP and your heart rate to compensate much the same as your BP and heart rate rise when you have to go to the bath room pretty badly. Get rid of the belly weight off the kidneys and you just may be able to stop taking one or more of the pills you take now to control your BP. This was the case for me and also the fact that all my life without my knowing it I never emptied my bladder the way normal people do.
Whatever you did to get rid of a big belly had other health benefits, resulting in lowered blood pressure (BP).

But the mechanism of improvement is likely not a simple matter of belly weight. For example, my systolic BP, on waking, varied by over 40 points in the last couple of months, as the success of my treating the oral infection varied. My body weight and belly size did not change much at all during that time.

I had no BP pills to stop taking. I've never taken one.

My doctor told me it was documented fact that big bellies and the weight of all that on the kidneys was due to my high BP so I dropped the belly. It was still borderline high even after though and that was due to the fact I never emptied my bladder as I should have been or thought that I was. I would not have known but even before the surgery when I was in for the ultra sound to scan my kidneys and my bladder my bladder was full even though I just went to the rest room before hand. The girl doing the exam could not believe I had no sensation to go. This alone raises the BP so yeah other factors were involved in my BP reading for sure. I have all my teeth. I worked in dentistry all my life so tooth problems are not something I deal with at all. I floss more than I brush and always have. I know a lot about teeth, I mean I did graduate dental school as did my wife and who still had her license up to 2015 but we both retired from it in 2002. I've never heard of any of the treatments you prescribe here Paul. They don't teach those in dental school.

[ThePythonicCow]

I've never heard of any of the treatments you prescribe here Paul. They don't teach those in dental school.
As I figured :).

[RunningDeer]

My ex-husband had a root canal done by a specialist and then went to his regular dentist for the cap. As he told it, the infection was so bad the dentist and hygienist backed away when he went to replace the temporary cap with a permanent one. It wasn’t long after he ended up in the hospital with a full body infection. (I forget the medical term - Septicemia, or sepsis, is the clinical name for blood poisoning by bacteria?) It was so touch and go for him that all his kids flew in.

He pulled through and finished his recuperation in a rehab facility for another 6-8 weeks. He never was the same after that. His memory was dull. He was down to skin and bones, and aged about 20 years.

Less than two years later, he passed. He had battled with Lyme’s disease for years and waited out the pain as per usual. Long story short, it was cancer not Lyme’s. The doctor gave him a couple of months and he died a little over a week later.

It's possible the Lyme’s disease was the underlying reason the body didn't heal from the root canal. I had two root canals done in the early 1980's. Knowing what I know today, I wouldn't go that route.



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif


I use “Oralive (https://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm)” toothpaste. It's so effective, I switched my dental cleansing from twice a year to once a year. And even then the dental hygienist doesn’t need a lot of time to remove the plaque and clean them. I'm big on flossing!


https://i.imgur.com/LVc08Mx.jpg




PS Paul, if this is off-topic or comes across as fear mongering, feel free to modify/delete.

[Flash]

I've never heard of any of the treatments you prescribe here Paul. They don't teach those in dental school.
As I figured :).

my natural biological dentist suggested the following, once infection is gone, to keep any disease away;

always floss
brush your teeth for 3 months in a rwo with a mix or half water/half peroxyde food grade. Dip your tooth brush in it and then dip the brush in baking soda. And brush. it should keep infections and gum disease pretty much away.

then give a break, 3 months with water and baking soda only.

then start again with peroxyde mostly is gums are bleeding.

Works wonder

[RunningDeer]

my natural biological dentist suggested the following, once infection is gone, to keep any disease away;

always floss
brush your teeth for 3 months in a rwo with a mix or half water/half peroxyde food grade. Dip your tooth brush in it and then dip the brush in baking soda. And brush. it should keep infections and gum disease pretty much away.

then give a break, 3 months with water and baking soda only.

then start again with peroxyde mostly is gums are bleeding.

Works wonder

That reminded me of this Q&A I copied, but haven't tried it.

How can I whiten my teeth in 2 weeks?




Combine 2 teaspoons of hydrogen peroxide with 1 teaspoon of baking soda and gently brush your teeth with the mixture. Limit the use of this homemade paste to a few times per week, as overuse can erode your tooth enamel.

Bottom Line: Hydrogen peroxide is a natural bleaching agent and can kill bacteria in your mouth.

[ThePythonicCow]

A friend had a root canal done and then went to his regular dentist for the cap. As the friend tells it, the infection was so bad the dentist and hygienist backed away when he went to replace the temp with a permanent one. It wasn’t long after that he ended up in the hospital with an full body infection. (I forget the medical term - septicemia?) It was touch and go that his kids flew in.
...
Less than two years later, he passed. He had battled with lyme’s disease for years and waited out the pain as per usual. Long story short, they gave him a couple of months and he died a little over a week later.

It's possible the lyme’s disease was the underlying reason the body didn't heal from the root canal. I had two done in the early 1980's. Today, I wouldn't go that route.
...
PS Paul, if this is off-topic or comes across as fear mongering, feel free to modify/delete.
Yes - such health issues can be major, sometimes deadly, problems, and your post is very much on topic for this thread.

One of the books that I am currently reading, The Silent Saboteurs - Unmasking Our Own Oral Spirochetes, by William Nordquist and David Krutchkoff (https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Saboteurs-Unmasking-Spirochetes-Trillions/dp/0982513852), goes into this problem in considerably more detail. The spirochetes suspected to cause Lyme's disease are apparently the same spirochetes that are found in most significant dental infections (whether visible at or above the gum line, or unfelt and unseen near the root of an already dead tooth.)

As I wrote somewhere earlier in this thread, "tooth and other oral (periodontal -- of the tissues around the tooth) disease are by some accounts the most prevalent, persistent, and pernicious source of major chronic illnesses and associated deaths, including coronary and cerebral artery diseases, cancers and Alzheimer's."

I should have included lyme's disease in my list of such diseases.


I use “Oralive (https://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm)” toothpaste. It's so effective, I switched my dental cleansing from twice a year to once a year. And even then the dental hygienist doesn’t need a lot of time to remove the plaque and clean them. I'm big on flossing!
That looks like a most excellent tooth paste.

Currently I've been using Earthpaste (http://www.earthpaste.com/) the last few years, though I cannot blame Earthpaste for my dental problems, as it is not effective if left sitting on the counter unused for days at a time. I've also just started experimenting with LivFresh (https://livionexdental.com/livfresh-dental-gel/), which is a new (and a bit pricey) way to dissolve plaque.

[RunningDeer]

Yes - such health issues can be major, sometimes deadly, problems, and your post is very much on topic for this thread.

One of the books that I am currently reading, The Silent Saboteurs - Unmasking Our Own Oral Spirochetes, by William Nordquist and David Krutchkoff (https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Saboteurs-Unmasking-Spirochetes-Trillions/dp/0982513852), goes into this problem in considerably more detail. The spirochetes suspected to cause Lyme's disease are apparently the same spirochetes that are found in most significant dental infections (whether visible at or above the gum line, or unfelt and unseen near the root of an already dead tooth.)

As I wrote somewhere earlier in this thread, "tooth and other oral (periodontal -- of the tissues around the tooth) disease are by some accounts the most prevalent, persistent, and pernicious source of major chronic illnesses and associated deaths, including coronary and cerebral artery diseases, cancers and Alzheimer's."

I should have included lyme's disease in my list of such diseases.


I use “Oralive (https://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm)” toothpaste. It's so effective, I switched my dental cleansing from twice a year to once a year. And even then the dental hygienist doesn’t need a lot of time to remove the plaque and clean them. I'm big on flossing!
That looks like a most excellent tooth paste.

Currently I've been using Earthpaste (http://www.earthpaste.com/) the last few years, though I cannot blame Earthpaste for my dental problems, as it is not effective if left sitting on the counter unused for days at a time. I've also just started experimenting with LivFresh (https://livionexdental.com/livfresh-dental-gel/), which is a new (and a bit pricey) way to dissolve plaque.

I’ll check out the book. My wish list has expanded. It’s my new approach to book purchases.


https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

A while back I took your suggestion and purchased “Holistic Tooth Powder”. I was trying to figure out ways to cut the budget. It didn’t keep my teeth as white. So rather than waste it, I switched back and forth with the Oralive. I figured it’s best to stick with what works for me. (The taste is better too.)


https://i.imgur.com/94j9Eaz.jpg

[Bubu]

[QUOTE=Bubu;1276664][QUOTE=Flash;1276644]


Don't "fix" the pancreas to shout "Store More!" (make more insulin). Don't inject more insulin.

Cut the damn sugars! Dramatically lower them. (Advice to self; I am my doctor, not yours.) Sugar and other such easily digested carbohydrates) are not an essential nutrient. You need zero sugar in your diet. [/url].

I hope you'll have time to watch your sugars all the time. I however have no time for that so I keep every part of the body in top shape. In spite of all I still can eat lots of sugary foods but still keep my health in top shape. Family members have been following my example for a reason. And I am aware that at least two of them are reading post here one is a member and you know that. So really there is no reason for me to lie. I'm exceptionally healthy despite the loads of sugar. Glad I dont have to deprive myself of the best tasting foods and be in shape.

[Ratszinger]

A friend had a root canal done and then went to his regular dentist for the cap. As the friend tells it, the infection was so bad the dentist and hygienist backed away when he went to replace the temp with a permanent one. It wasn’t long after that he ended up in the hospital with an full body infection. (I forget the medical term - septicemia?) It was so touch and go that his kids flew in.

He pulled through and finished his recuperation in a rehab facility for another 6-8 weeks. He never was the same after that. His memory was dull. He was skin and bones and aged about 20 years.

Less than two years later, he passed. He had battled with lyme’s disease for years and waited out the pain as per usual. Long story short, they gave him a couple of months and he died a little over a week later.

It's possible the lyme’s disease was the underlying reason the body didn't heal from the root canal. I had two done in the early 1980's. Today, I wouldn't go that route.



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif


I use “Oralive (https://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm)” toothpaste. It's so effective, I switched my dental cleansing from twice a year to once a year. And even then the dental hygienist doesn’t need a lot of time to remove the plaque and clean them. I'm big on flossing!


https://i.imgur.com/LVc08Mx.jpg




PS Paul, if this is off-topic or comes across as fear mongering, feel free to modify/delete.

The root canal didn't kill him. The infection he got that led to the abscess that caused the need for a root canal killed him because he went to the dentist too late to prevent the infection from spreading to other parts of his body. So even though the dentist did what they could the infection was already affecting other parts of his body. My uncle had a life time fear of dentists> he didn't even trust me or my wife to work on his teeth or touch him. The truth is he was a big baby when it came to dentists and that fear killed him in his early 60s because of a abscess infection that spread and went straight to his heart. Once an infection gets into your lymph system you waited too long. This is why periodic xrays should be done in a yearly exam. See the roots and note the condition. People are out there running around with abscesses in their mouth and don't even know it many times until an xray reveals the bubble infection at the apex of the root tip. This is localized infection if caught early and no risk to your life yet but just a risk for the pulp and nerve center of the tooth involved or teeth if the case involves the other adjacent root. Waiting however is a death sentence. It's just a matter of time before the pressure builds and then it bursts that bubble and the infection then spreads right into the blood stream.

There are all kinds of blood channels in the mouth for an infection to spread. It's not rocket science. When you have pressure built up in your mouth because of an abscess that has formed that pressure is what is causing the pain from that bubble containing the infection. As that bubble abscess grows the pressure builds and it's rather sad that so many come to their dentist in pain already because they let this build up to that point that it now pains them greatly to the point they seek relief. The problem is the only way I can relieve your pain is with an injection to try to make you numb but guess what? Due to the fact that this injection just adds to the pressure you are already experiencing any shot I give you will send you through the roof in even greater pain! Then of course you blame me or your dentist for your pain when it truth it's operator error on the part of the patient.

You didn't take the proper precautions. Preventive health care involves cleaning your teeth properly after you eat. Most don't do that. I know dental professionals, dentists that neglect their teeth but like anything its about learning how, and then doing it. We start drawing social security in May this year and I still have all my teeth. Floss and brush and if you don't know how there are videos to teach you how to do that. All you need to keep your mouth healthy is dental floss and baking soda and a tooth brush. For that matter you don't need even the baking soda you can use just water by itself and rinse with Listerine or Scope or something else you like Mann's breath deodorant but be advised if you spray Mann's breath deodorant before driving and get pulled over you will fail a breath test and the police will be sure you are drunk beyond the limit! At least for a few minutes after. ( We know we tested this in a high school when cops were giving a talk that day also)

[RunningDeer]

…running around with abscesses in their mouth and don't even know it many times until an xray reveals the bubble infection at the apex of the root tip. This is localized infection if caught early and no risk to your life yet but just a risk for the pulp and nerve center of the tooth involved or teeth if the case involves the other adjacent root…
Thank you for the info, Ratszinger. I’ve opted for an x-ray every other year. I’ll change it to yearly. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/thumbs-2.gif

Have you heard of “oil pulling (http://blogs.naturalnews.com/oil-pulling-for-health-even-if-you-arent-a-texas-oil-tycoon)”? I’ve gotten away from the daily routine, but it did whiten my teeth. (coffee drinker) I use Spectrum Organic Coconut Oil, rather than 1T and swish for 15-20 minutes, I use about 2t and swish 5-10 minutes.


All you need to keep your mouth healthy is dental floss and baking soda and a tooth brush. For that matter you don't need even the baking soda you can use just water by itself and rinse with Listerine or Scope…

I learned early on that my body couldn’t tolerate products like Listerine. It caused break outs around my mouth. I’m wary of over the counter products. There’s a lot of crap mixed in with the good. Fair skinned people with blue or green eyes, blonde or red hair tend to have greater sensitivities to: 1) certain foods such as eggs and wheat 2) additives in products 3) environmental allergens like pollens and mold spores. 98% of those problems cleared when I switched to organic, whole foods and eliminated the stress. I'd say stress is #1 for most of us. I don’t monitor what I eat when I’m with others. There was a period when I not only had to use two different inhalers for asthma, but also a nebulizer machine. Now, there’s zero symptoms.


We start drawing social security in May this year and I still have all my teeth.

I’ve gone a bit off topic and will end with an early congratulation to you, your wife and all your teeth. https://i.imgur.com/ZOHujJ9.gif

Minus my wisdom teeth, I’ve got all but one molar in the back. And I still have one baby molar. (I’m coming up on 69.) Like me, she’s here for the ride all the way to the end.

https://i.imgur.com/Vlz1VQ6.gif
Again, thanks for your points of view.

♡

[Ratszinger]

I'll tell you all a secret about cracked lips and angular cheilitis and that is many times when these break outs occur it is easier cured by nothing other than ample amounts of pure clean drinking water. Most of these break outs in my experience are smokers and they are simply dehydrated from smoking. Soda, coffee and these things dehydrate you more so pure drinking water daily is a must if you have these things happen a lot in your life. It may be that it is simply you are not taking in enough water to keep your cells healthy.

Pot smokers especially are prone to this and the symptoms for over indulgence of pot are much the same as those you'd experience if you rented a pedal float bike at the beach in Florida and went out all day in the sun on the ocean. You'd have cramps, and all the same symptoms of heat stroke or 'smoke stroke' because anyone that has smoked pot knows it's very easy to over do it because it's so smooth you don't realize how much smoke you put into your body.

If you over heat the cells of your body beyond the threshold to which they can recover whether it be by being in the hot sun all day on the ocean or smoking up all day and all week the body responds the same way to that overwhelming dry out. Once it affects enough of your body to cause it to react the only solution is to put back in the water you dehydrated out.

Listerine kills yeast and oral thrush is a yeast that grows in the mouth, particularly in smokers, and those on drugs like Advaire for asthma that is known for bringing this on. When that burning and cracking is evident in use it could be the fact you have some thrush growing in the mouth and once it's dead from hydrating yourself and using that listerine or scope the burning goes away. Suddenly you find out you can leave the stuff in and swish a lot more without pain.

It's really important to keep enough water circulating in your body and if you make note to do that swishing all day is also a good way to wash off the teeth so nothing sits in the same place as long as it need to start eating a hole in your enamel.

Speaking of the enamel the tubules of enamel are opened up when you bleach or polish so doing this can not just thin the enamel layer down (which never grows back) but continued use of these products will make your teeth hyper sensitive to heat and cold. I have never once bleached my teeth. I would not recommend it unless you just have to have a special smile for the camera or something once in a great while. It really can cause more damage than people think, and not just to the teeth but the gums also.

Sugar is the enemy. Bacteria are alive and well in the human mouth. A human bite is far worse and far more dangerous than a dog or cat bite! Your mouth is far dirtier than theirs and that is easily proven under a microscope. This bacteria loves sugar. It will feed on it and then crap all over your teeth and that crap is acid! That acid takes but six to eight hours to start eating it's way through your enamel. Rinsing is a great way to reduce this until you can brush or floss but don't rinse with sugar soda. People are always giving their kids Coke and I cringe each time. They have no idea how much that Coke is really going to end up costing them but don't get me started. :-)

I'm glad someone appreciates the info. I'm just trying to save you all some hassle and some money.

[ThePythonicCow]

I just posted a recent, and quite well done, documentary on the harms that root canal treatments cause, over at Root Canals Cause of Many Degenerative Diseases -- Post #19 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65806-Root-Canals-Cause-of-Many-Degenerative-Diseases&p=1279229&viewfull=1#post1279229).

It's worth a look, for anyone who has not already decided they are firmly against root canals.

[Justplain]

This is a very interesting thread, Paul. Everyone's comments appear to be generally on topic as well as entertaining and informative.

Funny, regarding teeth, I have gotten away from dentists because of expense and the constant desire for drilling. My family has found that many cavities start around fillings, so I don't think that the approach works very well.

I floss daily at days end, brush after flossing with a small amount of baking soda, then mouthwash/gargle with a small amount, drop or two, of MMS. The latter disinfects. This dental approach I basically picked up from some thread(s) on Avalon and seems to work.

Regarding lowering blood pressure, very good advise to reduce/eliminate sugar/junk or processed food. In addition, I went on a one day a week water fast, which always reduces pressure dramatically. I only use coversyl when I have to cover a very active day. Cholesterol I try to manage with niacin, tho I get the niacin 'burn', which is a slight burning sensation for a few minutes after ingestion. Last blood test my bad cholesterol was sort of hi normal, tho tolerable.

I instinctively follow your general approach to health issues, Paul, doing our own research before using allopathic input. My wife is better at that than I, but it has helped both of our health and saved my mother-in-law's life more than once.

Great thread. Fun reading. Thanks to all those contributing.

[ThePythonicCow]

Cholesterol I try to manage with niacin, tho I get the niacin 'burn', which is a slight burning sensation for a few minutes after ingestion. Last blood test my bad cholesterol was sort of hi normal, tho tolerable.
This chap, Dave Feldman, has an interesting take on how to read blood lipid profiles. Quite a bit of the talk is involved with this, but the graphic at the 14:33 mark is the key take away.

He's finding, in the data that he's collecting online from many volunteer participants, that HIGH HDL, LOW Triglycerides, is the key to shoot for, and that the LDL number means little either way. He also explains the biochemistry behind this finding.

(Or maybe I just like him because I ended up in the upper-left Green quadrant, by his metric. <grin>)

He's a good speaker in any case:
R0nS8yxQ90E
Dave Feldman - 'Interpreting Common Low Carb Lipid Profiles'

[Flash]

Cholesterol I try to manage with niacin, tho I get the niacin 'burn', which is a slight burning sensation for a few minutes after ingestion. Last blood test my bad cholesterol was sort of hi normal, tho tolerable.
This chap, Dave Feldman, has an interesting take on how to read blood lipid profiles. Quite a bit of the talk is involved with this, but the graphic at the 14:33 mark is the key take away.

He's finding, in the data that he's collecting online from many volunteer participants, that HIGH HDL, LOW Triglycerides, is the key to shoot for, and that the LDL number means little either way. He also explains the biochemistry behind this finding.

(Or maybe I just like him because I ended up in the upper-left Green quadrant, by his metric. <grin>)

He's a good speaker in any case:
R0nS8yxQ90E
Dave Feldman - 'Interpreting Common Low Carb Lipid Profiles'

haven't seen the video but it makes sense, HDL having a repair function while triglycerides are the sand paper braking the arteries wall for example.

[Pam]

Paul, can we have an update on the tooth and toothache? I don't know how you can stand to deal with tooth pain on a long term basis. That is one of the worst types of pain in my book.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, can we have an update on the tooth and toothache? I don't know how you can stand to deal with tooth pain on a long term basis. That is one of the worst types of pain in my book.

I'm not suffering much pain ... that's not a problem.

I am presently continuing the ameliorations (nascent iodine, ozone, vitamin C, ... ) discussed above, while I shop around for a suitable dentist. The restoration will be complicated (both medically and financially) and will take several years, so I'm taking my time to find the best dentist, the one most suited to my technical requirements, while most comfortable putting up with my bull headed "doing it my way" attitude.

[ThePythonicCow]

Dave Feldman - 'Interpreting Common Low Carb Lipid Profiles'

I may have inadvertantly confirmed something else that Dave Feldman said. At the 25:16 mark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1516&v=R0nS8yxQ90E), he says he's finding that a minority of low carb people who are also coffee drinkers, especially those who have loved their coffee for many years, may have a coffee sensitivity, which shows up as elevated triglycerides. Recall as I noted in Post #36 above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106111-A-theory-of-kidneys-high-blood-pressure-and-toxins--Bonus-how-I-m-treating-an-infected-tooth-&p=1279266&viewfull=1#post1279266) that HIGH HDL, LOW Triglycerides, is the key to shoot for,

Some low carbers, especially "coffee addicts", can't get their triglyceride numbers down until they go off coffee for say ten days.

I've had other reasons to doubt coffee over the last few years, such as feeling more tired, not less, if I go back to drinking coffee. But thankfully my selective memory forgets this after a while and I return to drinking coffee. Not much, just a cup or two per day, much less than when I was seriously coding, but still noticeable.

I started enjoying a good cup of coffee again a couple of weeks ago, and soon the easy metrics I was tracking, my sleep, my blood pressure on waking each morning, my alertness and fluidity of movement, and my typing error rate on keyboards, started to get worse again.

The effect of all the various compounds in coffee on the body and how these are digested by the liver and kidneys is not well understood. Also the coffee industry is quite talented at supporting studies that show that coffee helps one live longer and healthier ... they might not be unbiased here?

Damn - I might have to actually move my coffee to the closet, to remind me next time that it might not be such a good idea.

My simpleton's explanation is that somehow coffee puts some additional workload on the kidneys, and that my kidneys are already working overtime to keep up with the toxic load from my dental infections.

[etheric underground]

Hey Paul... synchronistically I was talking about my high blood pressure... and seen this while browsing...my last test by my doc was 140/100
It has been as high as 170/100
I’m fit, workout hard every day. I fast and eat well. I don’t drink ( often) yet my blood pressure is high enough that the doctor freaked out and said a heart attack or stroke will occur.
I’m on iberstatan... and hate knowing I’m taking a dodgy pharmaceutical.
Would love people’s thoughts on lowering my blood pressure
Know I practice meditation, I have changed my role from a stressful management position to a cruisier role.
I generally stay clear from fast food and I’m not overweight????

[ThePythonicCow]

Hey Paul... synchronistically I was talking about my high blood pressure... and seen this while browsing...my last test by my doc was 140/100
It has been as high as 170/100
I’m fit, workout hard every day. I fast and eat well. I don’t drink ( often) yet my blood pressure is high enough that the doctor freaked out and said a heart attack or stroke will occur.
I’m on iberstatan... and hate knowing I’m taking a dodgy pharmaceutical.
Would love people’s thoughts on lowering my blood pressure
Know I practice meditation, I have changed my role from a stressful management position to a cruisier role.
I generally stay clear from fast food and I’m not overweight????

I haven't been to a doctor in 15 years, since one of them prescribed a statin for me, and I figured out, the same day, that I wanted neither the statin nor that doctor.

The dentists I am checking out fortunately have a few more clues. Before I got my oral infection somewhat under control, my blood pressure read something like 180/100 on one visit a couple of months ago (apparently protocol requires that they take my blood pressure on every visit). I glanced at that reading as she removed the cuff, she entered it into the computer as usual, and she didn't even bother mentioning it to me. My earlier comments to her made clear that that would be a frustrating conversation.

Warning: I'm my doctor, not yours. Anyone who follows my advice because I said it, not because they happened to come to similar conclusions on their own, is a certified idiot.


Try listening to Dr John Bergman on blood pressure. Just search on Google for those words. Here's the first hit when I just did this search: http://www.drjohnbergman.com/disease/blood-pressure/

I'm confident that your blood pressure gets way higher when you're working out, and lower while you're sleeping. Get a blood pressure meter you find easy to work with and notice, over time and as things change with your body, how the pressure changes. Just in the ordinary course of a day, from sleeping to working out, pressure can and jolly well should vary over a wide range. Unusual (unusual for you) rises in blood pressure can become a useful indicator (to you) of some problem. Gradual declines over time can become a useful indicator of beneficial changes in diet.

Blood pressure is a key fear inducing metric used by Western allopathetic medicine to get patients started down the road of an increasingly large number of prescription drugs.

Blood pressure does rise in the face of problems in the body, toxins in the food or environment, sub-optimal nutrition, etc. So blood pressure readings will rise if there is a chronic condition developing. Medical researchers looking to publish papers will find correlations between higher blood pressure and various diseases. Doctors are taught and rewarded to prescribe, not to learn how the function of their patient's bodies can be improved. Your body is not suffering from a deficiency of "angiotensin receptor blockers" (such as Irbesartan). Lowering the blood pressure with a pharmaceutical is like turning off the "Low Oil Pressure" light on you car's dashboard with a hammer and punch; not only does it not fix whatever real problem, if any, may be developing, it also adds more problems.

Warning: I'm my doctor, not yours. Anyone who follows my advice because I said it, not because they happened to come to similar conclusions on their own, is a certified idiot.

[petra]

I just posted a recent, and quite well done, documentary on the harms that root canal treatments cause, over at Root Canals Cause of Many Degenerative Diseases -- Post #19 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65806-Root-Canals-Cause-of-Many-Degenerative-Diseases&p=1279229&viewfull=1#post1279229).

It's worth a look, for anyone who has not already decided they are firmly against root canals.

I've already decided against root canals because of the amount of stigma around it being the "most painful thing ever". I had no idea there could be dangers as well, thanks for the heads up. Degenerative diseases are certainly a much bigger concern than some temporary pain.

I've got tooth problems also, and at one point the pain was almost unbearable - it was probably infected.

The dentist who pulled my tooth was only a young thing, very Doogie Howser like, and slightly egotistical. He had to cut pieces of my tooth off to get it out, because it was so big. When he (finally) got it out of there, he laughed out loud, and then he said "You're going to need stitches". I asked if he's going to do the stitches, and he said yes. I replied, "You're good.". :)

[Bubu]

Hey Paul... synchronistically I was talking about my high blood pressure... and seen this while browsing...my last test by my doc was 140/100
It has been as high as 170/100
I’m fit, workout hard every day. I fast and eat well. I don’t drink ( often) yet my blood pressure is high enough that the doctor freaked out and said a heart attack or stroke will occur.
I’m on iberstatan... and hate knowing I’m taking a dodgy pharmaceutical.
Would love people’s thoughts on lowering my blood pressure
Know I practice meditation, I have changed my role from a stressful management position to a cruisier role.
I generally stay clear from fast food and I’m not overweight????

Imagine the blood circulating system as a fluid circulating system with pump fluid and tubes. Now what could cause that system to have high pressure. I'm guessing restricted flow. which could be due to: small discharge pipe or too viscous fluid. Get a blood and nerve cleanse. You'll be fine just fix the blood and the tubes.

[lunaflare]

workout hard every day...etheric underground, this may really be the cause of stress. You did not go into detail as to the duration/form of "work-out". Just a suggestion, to change your method of exercise. The body is our source of wisdom and best to be listened to rather than the mind orchestrating this and that (even if well-intentioned).

[ThePythonicCow]

Imagine the blood circulating system as a fluid circulating system with pump fluid and tubes. Now what could cause that system to have high pressure. I'm guessing restricted flow. which could be due to: small discharge pipe or too viscous fluid. Get a blood and nerve cleanse. You'll be fine just fix the blood and the tubes.

I presented a different view in the Opening Post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106111-A-theory-of-kidneys-high-blood-pressure-and-toxins--Bonus-how-I-m-treating-an-infected-tooth-&p=1276521&viewfull=1#post1276521) of this thread:

The primary conjecture:
The body can (if tissues are healthy) handle a wide range of rates and pressures in the hearts, lungs, kidneys, and arteries. Moreover, the body will make good use of this flexibility, increasing or decreasing the rates and pressures, as more or less lung, or more or less kidney, function is needed.

I take my blood pressure at the same time (upon waking) and in the same way each day. If nothing changes in my health, I get almost the same result, plus or minus five millimeters of mercury (mmHg).

If my tooth infection acts up, that pressure rises. I've seen the systolic up 30 mmHg and the diastolic up 15 mmHg at times this year.

If I lower the infection, using such means as iodine or ozone (my dentist injects ozone into the tissue or into the bone, or I apply ozonated oil to the gum tissue), the pressure goes back down to the normal healthy base level the next morning.

This is NOT a question of the health of my arteries (the tubes) changing in one day.

This is NOT even a question, I would claim, of some sort of "thicker blood" being harder to pump.

Rather I think that it is a question of my body deciding it needs more filtering by the kidneys, to reduce the level of toxins (from the infection) in my blood stream.

Just as the lungs breath harder and faster if you work or exercise hard, so that you can get more oxygen into the blood and CO2 out of the blood, so does the heart push the blood harder if the body needs the kidney filters to extract toxins from the blood more rapidly.

[Constance]

Here is a little question that I found interesting. Has anyone ever tried testing their blood pressure on both arms and found that it differs?

Different blood pressure in right and left arms could signal trouble (https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/different-blood-pressure-in-right-and-left-arms-could-signal-trouble-201202014174)



The next time you have your blood pressure checked, don’t be surprised if your doctor, nurse, or other health-care provider measures it twice—once in each arm. A significant difference in the pressure recorded in the right and left arms can signal circulatory problems that may lead to stroke, peripheral artery disease, or other cardiovascular problems.

British researchers looked at the results of 20 studies in which blood pressure was measured in both arms. People with an arm-to-arm difference of 15 points or more were twice as likely to have peripheral artery disease—essentially cholesterol-clogged arteries in the arms, legs, or other non-heart parts of the body. The name may sound dismissive, but the disease isn’t. Peripheral artery disease affects at least 12 million Americans, more than heart disease and stroke combined. It kills some, maims others, and makes life painful for countless more.

A blood pressure difference of 10 to 15 points or more between arms also boosted the chances of having a stroke or dying from cardiovascular disease. The results were published online in The Lancet.

In an editorial accompanying the article, Drs. Richard McManus and Jonathan Mant of the University of Oxford say that measuring blood pressure in both arms should be part of routine medical care.

Why does blood pressure differ between arms?
Different blood pressure readings in the right and left arms that vary by a few points aren’t anything to worry about. It’s actually quite normal. A difference of more than 10 points, though, could suggest trouble.

In younger people, side-to-side differences in blood pressure can occur when a muscle or something else compresses an artery supplying the arm, or by a structural problem that prevents smooth blood flow through an artery.

In older people, it’s usually due to a blockage arising from atherosclerosis, the artery-clogging disease process at the root of most heart attacks, strokes, peripheral artery disease, and other cardiovascular conditions.

A less common cause of blood pressure that is different in each arm is an aortic dissection. This is a tear inside the wall of the aorta, the main pipeline of oxygenated blood from the heart to the body.

Try this at home
At your next doctor’s visit, ask to have your blood pressure checked in both arms. If there’s a difference greater than 10 point, another test called the ankle-brachial index might be in order to check for peripheral artery disease. It might also be a good time to get serious about taking care of your heart and arteries.

If you take your blood pressure at home, you can do it yourself. There are many good reasons to check your blood pressure at home. The result might be closer to your usual blood pressure than the result in a doctor’s office, and you might do a better job of measuring your blood pressure.

That’s why the Harvard Heart Letter urges people to check their own. All it takes is a home blood pressure monitor, a few simple instructions, and a few minutes. You can see a video here, or read more about home monitoring from the Heart Letter.

Here are a few tips to help you start monitoring your blood pressure at home:

Avoid caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine during the 30 minutes before you take your reading.
Sit quietly for a few minutes with your back supported and your feet on the floor.
When making the measurement, rest your arm so your elbow is at the level of your heart.
Wrap the cuff over the bare skin of your upper arm. Measure your blood pressure according to the machine’s instructions. Leave the deflated cuff in place, wait a minute, then take a second reading. If the readings are close, average them. If not, take a third reading and average the three.
Repeat the procedure in the other arm.
If the different blood pressure readings in your arms are off by more than 10 or 15 points, mention this at your next doctor visit and ask your doctor or nurse to check both arms.

[Bubu]

Here is a little question that I found interesting. Has anyone ever tried testing their blood pressure on both arms and found that it differs?
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I see no other reason than clogged artery on the one branch. This is simple fluid dynamics.

[Bubu]

another thing to monitor with regards to blood pressure is the differential pressure between systolic and diastolic. example 120/80. the differential is 40. If the differential is 45 or 50 your health is above average. It means your body is circulating more blood. If it is 30 to 35 then your health is in trouble. It means your body is circulating less blood. This is only a theory an analogy based on fluid dynamics. Imagine the heart as a diaphragm pump when its pumping more blood the systolic will rise but if the blood vessels are not clogged particularly the capillaries the diastolic will be low which is an indication of blood going through with ease. On the other hand if the heart is not pumping enough blood the systolic will be low (in relation to diastolic) and when blood vessels are clogged the pressure will not ease as much which is indicated by high diastolic.
I have not try this yet. But my theory is that when you're breathing heavily during exercise the differential pressure will be high as compared to when you are rested. Perhaps Paul can try it and report back I dont have a sphygmomanometer as I dont monitor blood pressure.

[Bubu]

After some reading to verify my theory here is what comes out. It appears that my theory is not on spot but close to it. But then lets not forget that this is only what modern medicine says. Not necessarily true.

https://www.healthline.com/health/wide-pulse-pressure

"Pulse pressure is the difference between your systolic blood pressure, which is the top number of your blood pressure reading, and diastolic blood pressure, which is the bottom number".Most people have a pulse pressure between 40 and 60 mm Hg. Generally, anything above this is considered a wide pulse pressure."

"A low pulse pressure is a small difference between your systolic and diastolic pressure. In some cases, a low pulse pressure can also be a sign of a poorly functioning heart."

"What does a wide pulse pressure indicate?
Wide pulse pressure can indicate a change in your heart’s structure or function. This may be due to:

Valve regurgitation. In this, blood flows backward through your heart’s valves. This reduces the amount of blood pumping through your heart, making your heart work harder to pump enough blood.
Aortic stiffening. The aorta is the major artery that distributes oxygenated blood throughout your body. Damage to your aorta, often due to high blood pressure or fatty deposits, can cause wide pulse pressure.
Severe iron deficiency anemia. In this condition, there aren’t enough hemoglobin cells in your blood due to lack of iron.
Hyperthyroidism. Your thyroid produces too much of a hormone called thyroxine, which affects many of your body’s processes, including the beating of your heart."

[RunningDeer]

I’ll add these here along with a few snippets. A summary is added to the second video.





And when she pulled that tooth, there was so much infection in the bone, it splattered all over her mask. And yet I had no symptoms as far as the tooth was concerned. But 48 hours after she pulled the tooth, my bleeding disorder was cured.



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Dr. Jerry Tennant: Healing the Body's Electrical Circuitry | Electricity of Life (21 minutes)




@ 9:09 (https://youtu.be/MPDPrXEAe1s?t=549) "…So I went to that seminar and I got the Russian device and began to recharge my cells and in about six weeks or so, things began to get better.

The other thing that happened about that time was that I was on an airplane and there was a nurse sitting next to me from the Dallas area. And she began to tell me that she had lymphoma, had this big tumor around her neck and scattered throughout her body. And that she'd gone to Mexico and in a matter of days the tumors were gone, even though MD Anderson had told her to go home and die.


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So I went down to visit with the docs that helped her to see how in the world they did that and that was sort of the beginning of my journey along with this other business of the electronics to figure out how to get well.

And one of the things they taught me was that essentially all tumors are associated with infection in your teeth, particularly root canal teeth. And so she had gone down and they had pulled her root canal tooth and cleaned up the infection in her mouth and in a matter of days her tumors were gone.

And she sent me not only photographs but she sent me her medical records from MD Anderson when she came back and they proved that her tumors had disappeared.

So I had a root canal tooth here in what's called the spleen stomach acupuncture circuit and so my Docs here in Dallas said there's nothing wrong with that tooth. But I had also developed a bleeding disorder and so I went back down to Mexico and had the dentist, that had operated on this nurse, work on me. And when she pulled that tooth, there was so much infection in the bone, it splattered all over her mask. And yet I had no symptoms as far as the tooth was concerned. But 48 hours after she pulled the tooth, my bleeding disorder was cured and that was rather amazing.

And then over the next six weeks or so, my brain started to work again. And so that's how I started going down this road of figuring out how the body really works and what the role of voltage is in the body, because it's obviously so different than what I was taught in medical school.

One of the things that I was led to try to understand was acupuncture. Actually, that was part of a bigger picture in that I was sitting in my chair at home and I said to myself well, obviously traditional medicine that I was taught, told me go home and die. And so that obviously wasn't working so well. But sometimes chiropractic works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes acupuncture works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes essential oils work, sometimes they don't, etc etc.

So there are all these various medical models that sometimes work and sometimes don’t. So my thinking was, if I could figure out, there has to be a common denominator that goes through all of these. Otherwise, because I mean if things work, there's, it's because it's following some basic laws, some basic rules of how things are supposed to work.

If I could figure out what that common denominator was running through all of these different, then I knew how to get myself well. And it began to become apparent to me that the voltage piece was the common denominator for all of these things.



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Published on Feb 23, 2019



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Part II: Dr. Jerry Tennant: Recharge Your Battery and Heal | Electricity of Life (15 minutes)




@ 7:07 (https://youtu.be/QfA16ff43Kg?t=427) - "If the health of living cells is governed by voltage then an obvious concern in modern society is the rapidly growing pervasiveness of wireless technologies. We asked Dr. Tennant to identify some of the greatest obstacles we should be aware of today.

Well, there's no doubt that we have all sorts of things that affect us. You know, for example, if I had you hold your arm straight out and check the push down on it, you would be strong. And then if I had you take a wristwatch with a battery in it and hold it right up against your chest and I pushed on your arm, you would go weak.

So again, when we put electromagnetic energy within our personal magnetic field, it weakens us, our particular frequencies weaken us. And so we're being bombarded with that sort of thing all the time.

Here’s the bottom line of the whole thing.

We are constantly wearing ourselves out. So you get new cells in the macular of your eye every 48 hours. The lining of your guts replaced every three days. The skin you're sitting in today is six weeks old. Your liver is eight weeks old, and your nervous system eight months old. So as cells wear out you have to make new ones. Or if the cells get damaged some way, you have to make new ones. So chronic disease only occurs when you lose the ability to make new cells that work.

Let me say that one more time, chronic disease only occurs when you lose the ability to make new cells that work. Which leads one to the question of, “Well, what's it take to make new cells that work?"

Answer @ 8:40 (https://youtu.be/QfA16ff43Kg?t=521)



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Published on Feb 27, 2019




In part one of this presentation, Dr. Jerry Tennant introduced us to his extraordinary research into the complex electrical circuitry of the human body. Since his own remarkable battle with debilitating ailments, Dr. Tennant has worked to develop a kind of map of this circuitry, to understand its essential connection to physical wellbeing.

In the previous episode, Dr. Tennant discussed the particular significance of the circuitry connecting teeth to other regions of the body. The concept of illness arising from electrical imbalances is, of course, unconventional in most modern medicine. However, the application of electromagnetic therapies in healing is not new. In this conclusion, we asked Dr. Tennant to begin by discussing some of the earliest examples of the use of electromagnetism as a physical remedy.

[ThePythonicCow]

For my own body, when I was becoming increasingly diabetic, I chose neither (1) injecting more insulin, nor (2) fixing the pancreas.

Rather I chose less sugar.

When you consume more sugar than you need right away, the body stores it as fat. Your muscles, liver and some other gut tissues are the primary storage areas. If you're a bulked up weight lifter with massive muscles, you can easily store lots of fat this way, and you are unlikely to become diabetic.

If one continues to consume more sugar than one uses for energy, to the point that the usual storage areas are "full", then the pancreas increases its insulin output. Insulin is the hormone that tells the storage areas (muscle, liver, ...) to take fat out of the blood stream and store it. The muscles, liver, ... become full of fat, but the pancreas continues to shout "Store More!". Eventually, the pancreas gets tired of doing this and its ability to produce insulin weakens. Then the "sugar -> fat -> storage" cycle fails and blood sugar levels rise.
The following video describes the liver, not the kidneys that are a focus of this thread.

However, what he says closely matches my understanding, and is consistent with my experience (though I am less bald and less buff than he is.) He speaks accurately and clearly, of the challenge that the "Modern Food Pyramid" (high in sugars, grains, carbs and vegetable oils) presents to the liver.

Tellingly, a couple of key liver enzymes that are easily measured in blood tests, ALP and especially GGT (Gamma Glutamyl Transferase), are two of the most important measures that the life insurance industry uses to predict who will be more likely to die sooner (a question of considerable value to the life insurance).

Those eating according to the "Modern Food Pyramid" have a higher GGT and die sooner. Those who push vegetables, healthy oils (lower Omega 6, higher nut, avocado, mono and saturated fats, ...), along with very low sugars, carbs and vegetable oils, have a lower GGT and live longer. If you're buying life insurance that requires a medical exam, I'd expect the life insurance company to price the plan depending significantly on your GGT levels.

Here's Ivor Cummins speaking on GGT:
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He also provides this pdf transcript of what he said here: TRANSCRIPT Fat Emperor on Fatty Liver Enzyme GGT - Don't Die from Ignorance.pdf (http://thepythoniccow.us/TRANSCRIPT Fat Emperor on Fatty Liver Enzyme GGT - Don't Die from Ignorance.pdf)

I'll be adding GGT to my next blood test.

Ivor Cummins does an excellent job of explaining the relationship between diet, liver function, and killers such as heart disease.