Joe Rogan Exposed?

[Star Tsar]

A young man named Matthew North poses some interesting questions pretaining to Mr Joe Rogan...

Matthew North

Joe Rogan Exposed

Published 7th March 2019

In this presentation Matthew shares the infomation he has garnered whilst investigating into the background of the Joe Rogan Experience.

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[sunwings]

Scrolling through the comments section, the feedback is that this is a very valuable video. I have just watched a few minutes and KUDOS to the young man for presenting his findings. But I do not have the other two hours spare to go through it. Could you give a summary of Mathew´s claims?

In the clip I saw, he claims that Eddie Bravo is being used as a double negative to push flat earth and space does not exist. However, Eddie is horrible at explaining his thoughts, so he acts as a repellent for people who might be interested in conspiracy theories in general.

My take (without listening to the video above) Eddie Bravo should be banned!:silent: But I will still listen to Joe Rogan, he is too entertaining not too.

[etheric underground]

Isn’t he a buddy of George Soros.... enough said.
Also why does joe always dodge the real questions like
Who’s involved in child trafficking and pedo rings?

[Savannah]

Great job of dot connecting and presenting current propaganda/mind control programs and their agenda.

The last episode of Mad Men, Don is attending the Esalen Institute. Fits perfectly.

I think Alex Jones is enlightened person, he is very aware of what is going on but he may have sold out. The Q thread goes into his possible Mossad connections.

[norman]

A young man named Matthew North poses some interesting questions pretaining to Mr Joe Rogan...

Matthew North

Joe Rogan Exposed

Published 7th March 2019

In this presentation Matthew shares the infomation he has garnered whilst investigating into the background of the Joe Rogan Experience.

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This Matthew North kid is quite a bright spark. His gift for gathering stuff together into a pile is good, his assumed big picture schema, perhaps, not so good.

The soundtrack of the OP video is almost unlistenable, having variances of 30 decibels between the loudest bits and the quietest bits. So, I set about polishing the sound. It ended up taking me FAR TOO LONG !

But it's done, and a hell of a lot nicer to listen to. Here it is ( oh, I gave it a new title too ):


MP3
Matthew North - Brave New Psychedelia - The People, The Organisations
https://app.box.com/s/8p2edmyh1a05mp9jm5jo2bwndmn7e9nu

[Bill Ryan]

Well, if Joe Rogan is controlled opposition (or something like that!), they're doing a pretty good job of shutting down his latest show with Alex Jones. :)


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10 Million views on youtube
20 million views on I tunes

In the first five minutes he addresses the censorship the podcast has faced!

[norman]

The interesting bit about the Matthew North presentation is the wider field of connected organisations and individuls. Joe Rogan happens to be his way into the subject, but it's much bigger than Rogan.

And anyway, who said Rogan is controlled opposition. It looks more like he's part of the Alpha club running the cultural changes for the elite. Where is the "opposition" in anything Rogan anyway :)

If you have not bothered to listen to this, because the audio was impossible to put up with, try my audio version. It's a very interesting listen. I've heard lots of stuff I didn't know before. Matthew's own pet big picture (implied) irritates me somewhat, but the voyage of discovery, going through this, is worth it, in my opinion.





Well, if Joe Rogan is controlled opposition (or something like that!), they're doing a pretty good job of shutting down his latest show with Alex Jones. :)



Turns out that the woman who runs Youtube is on the board/runs an entity that is sponsoring the Joe Rogan Podcast !... go figure.

They have to keep Joe's image looking like a rebel, I guess, and after Alex Jones made a big issue out of Rogan having made his bed and chosen his side, they had to take Alex head on and give him the kiss of death by having him on the podcast to vent his points in a squeezed "we're old friends" mode. I can't see that lasting very long. I think Alex will be having more to say about the Rogan phenomenon before too long.

It's not over yet.

edit to add:

Think about this, How can Joe Rogan heavily promote illegal drug use on his very popular podcast show and completely get away with it?

[mgray]

My take on this was wasted time. Rogan does two hours plus with an assortment of people from different backgrounds.
So to cherry pick 2 minutes of a discussion as an example of an agenda seems a stretch.

When this host says he had taken most of the drugs mentioned on the video, I believe he is perturbed over his lack of recognition. Just my thoughts.

[onawah]

MGray, you need a proofreader! You are a journalist, right? Did you look over this post before you hit the enter button?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106286-Joe-Rogan-Exposed&p=1279999&viewfull=1#post1279999
"My take on this wasted time. Rogan does two hours with prople." PROPLE?(def.: purple people?) "So to cherry pick 2mintutes" MINTUTES? (def.:short tutorials?) "as an example of an agenda seems a stretch. Will this host says" (will this host says or won't he?) "he had taken most of the drugs mentioned on the video, I believe he is perturded " PERTURDED? ( a pissed off turd?)"over lack over lack" (an overly lacking lack of recognition would be a double negative)"of recognition." "Just my thoughts."

[Hazelfern]

Ooops i got a 404

So you are not a fan of JR I assume.





From Bill: the link was http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106286-Joe-Rogan-Exposed&p=1279999&viewfull=1#post1279999, now fixed.

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[Debra]

MGray, you need a proofreader! You are a journalist, right? Did you look over this post before you hit the enter button?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106286-Joe-Rogan-Exposed&p=1279999&viewfull=1#post1279999
"My take on this wasted time. Rogan does two hours with prople." PROPLE?(def.: purple people?) "So to cherry pick 2mintutes" MINTUTES? (def.:short tutorials?) "as an example of an agenda seems a stretch. Will this host says" (will this host says or won't he?) "he had taken most of the drugs mentioned on the video, I believe he is perturded " PERTURDED? ( a pissed off turd?)"over lack over lack" (an overly lacking lack of recognition would be a double negative)"of recognition." "Just my thoughts."

Not a spelling nazi myself, I do agree there are a few mistakes in mgray’s post Onawah. However, it is very unchracteristic of him, so I am not going to chide him over it. I am sure that he will clean up the text himself - and that I think is only fair. Perhaps he was writing with a mobile device on the hop and well, they do have minds of their own.

mgray, if you would be so kind to clear up your post. Thankyou :o

[Star Tsar]

More on Mrs Wojciciki

I hear Google itself was started in her garage?

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[mgray]

MGray, you need a proofreader! You are a journalist, right? Did you look over this post before you hit the enter button?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1279999
"My take on this wasted time. Rogan does two hours with prople." PROPLE?(def.: purple people?) "So to cherry pick 2mintutes" MINTUTES? (def.:short tutorials?) "as an example of an agenda seems a stretch. Will this host says" (will this host says or won't he?) "he had taken most of the drugs mentioned on the video, I believe he is perturded " PERTURDED? ( a pissed off turd?)"over lack over lack" (an overly lacking lack of recognition would be a double negative)"of recognition." "Just my thoughts."

Not a spelling nazi myself, I do agree there are a few mistakes in mgray’s post Onawah. However, it is very unchracteristic of him, so I am not going to chide him over it. I am sure that he will clean up the text himself - and that I think is only fair. Perhaps he was writing with a mobile device on the hop and well, they do have minds of their own.

mgray, if you would be so kind to clear up your post. Thankyou :o

I apologize for earlier post. Tried to comment using my phone, not successfully.

[apokalypse]

Rogan sold out or gone quite..i agreed with Alex always saying along the line of Rogan knows it all but keep quite about it...

[waree]

Matthew North is awesome. Good crumbs regardless of whether it's true or not. It's a healthy skepticism in my opinion.

[Praxis]

The interesting bit about the Matthew North presentation is the wider field of connected organisations and individuls. Joe Rogan happens to be his way into the subject, but it's much bigger than Rogan.

And anyway, who said Rogan is controlled opposition. It looks more like he's part of the Alpha club running the cultural changes for the elite. Where is the "opposition" in anything Rogan anyway :)

If you have not bothered to listen to this, because the audio was impossible to put up with, try my audio version. It's a very interesting listen. I've heard lots of stuff I didn't know before. Matthew's own pet big picture (implied) irritates me somewhat, but the voyage of discovery, going through this, is worth it, in my opinion.





Well, if Joe Rogan is controlled opposition (or something like that!), they're doing a pretty good job of shutting down his latest show with Alex Jones. :)



Turns out that the woman who runs Youtube is on the board/runs an entity that is sponsoring the Joe Rogan Podcast !... go figure.

They have to keep Joe's image looking like a rebel, I guess, and after Alex Jones made a big issue out of Rogan having made his bed and chosen his side, they had to take Alex head on and give him the kiss of death by having him on the podcast to vent his points in a squeezed "we're old friends" mode. I can't see that lasting very long. I think Alex will be having more to say about the Rogan phenomenon before too long.

It's not over yet.

edit to add:

Think about this, How can Joe Rogan heavily promote illegal drug use on his very popular podcast show and completely get away with it?

This is a hilarious thread and it is funny how fickle the alt community is and how easy they turn to start crying controlled opposition.

Did you know that Flesh Light was the first, or one of the first, companies to support the JRE? Do you even know what that is?

Joe is one thing: himself. He has been doing the cast for a long time and is most certainly not a puppet. He has his own opinions and they may differ from yours; this does not make him controlled opposition. Just because someone has a difference of opinion about something, or many things, doesnt mean they are a shill or plant or secretly Bill hicks.

I have been listening on and off to his cast, and actually many of the comedians surrounding him(Duncan Trussell, Tomsegura, Joey Diaz) and am pretty sure they are just comedians having a good time and trying to make material.

Do I agree with Joes opinions? Not on many things and in fact he has CIA shills on regularly to shill for CIA ****. Like directly having and telling people they were former CIA on. Does that make Joe a CIA shill? NOPE!

It just means the dude has many people on his podcast. He is legit curious and follows that curiosity.

I didnt watch the video because who cares what some random thinks about a podcast. Go listen to episodes of the cast yourself and then decide. I have listened to the source not some digested version of it.

I am gonna have to agree with MrGray on this one: cherry picking two minutes of a podcast that generally goes on for about 3 hrs is exactly what MSM does and is why they are worthless.


Discussing a topic != promotion.

Quick edit: Ya ll need to learn how to make bread if you think gathering up crumbs is the process of baking bread.

Also, if you think Joe is a shill, think back to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and remember that Joe gave them a platform to change our history and without that where would their work be?

The world is greay people

[Bill Ryan]

Also, if you think Joe is a shill, think back to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and remember that Joe gave them a platform to change our history and without that where would their work be?


For reference: links to the podcasts below. They're solid gold, with a ton of detailed information. Joe Rogan is clearly fascinated with the topic (18 hours on the Younger-Dryas impact hypothesis!), and he's read the books. As Alex Jones remarks, he knows everything already. :)

#360, with Graham Hancock:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tsu2-I2q6dg

#417, with Graham Hancock:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1cbnCrHwVSg

#501, with Randall Carlson:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R31SXuFeX0A

#606, with Randall Carlson:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1jJhpDQ2zlo

#872, with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0H5LCLljJho

And #961, with Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson & Michael Shermer (a skeptic/debunker, who's not a very nice person, but who brings quite some fire and stimulation to the discussion)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFlAFo78xoQ

I have to say, I really don't care too much personally who Joe Rogan's producers or Sponsors might be. He has interesting and entertaining guests (some of them VERY interesting), and he's the best interviewer on the circuit bar none. And having Alex Jones back on a second time does strongly suggest (to me) that he makes his own decisions.

[norman]

Yea, Hillary Clinton is fascinated with the truth too, really. She is.

Don't gang up on a stupid point, it makes you look ever so stupid, when otherwise you could have pulled it off and fooled us you were intelligent.

[norman]

Looks like it over Bill, flick the switch.

[Daozen]

I was going to write something a long the lines of Praxis' post. I listen to Joe Rogan cos I like him as a person. He seems like someone I would hang out with. He also promotes Testosterone therapy and HGH, which has helped a lot of men over 40. He's a living testament to the power of hormones. Some of his guests come off a little shillish. It wouldn''t surprise me if some of them had made some prior agreements. Such is life.

Rogan proves there's a hunger for simple radio. A curious guy in a room talking about esoteric topics. If we don't like Wilcock, Jones, Rogan or whoever, its on us to do something better. There's not enough people standing up and discovering their own leadership potential.

[abmqa]

Also, if you think Joe is a shill, think back to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and remember that Joe gave them a platform to change our history and without that where would their work be?


For reference: links to the podcasts below. They're solid gold, with a ton of detailed information. Joe Rogan is clearly fascinated with the topic (18 hours on the Younger-Dryas impact hypothesis!), and he's read the books. As Alex Jones remarks, he knows everything already. :)

#360, with Graham Hancock:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tsu2-I2q6dg

#417, with Graham Hancock:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1cbnCrHwVSg

#501, with Randall Carlson:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R31SXuFeX0A

#606, with Randall Carlson:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1jJhpDQ2zlo

#872, with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0H5LCLljJho

And #961, with Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson & Michael Shermer (a skeptic/debunker, who's not a very nice person, but who brings quite some fire and stimulation to the discussion)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFlAFo78xoQ

I have to say, I really don't care too much personally who Joe Rogan's producers or Sponsors might be. He has interesting and entertaining guests (some of them VERY interesting), and he's the best interviewer on the circuit bar none. And having Alex Jones back on a second time does strongly suggest (to me) that he makes his own decisions.

I wholeheartedly agree. I never miss a podcast. He has the most fascinating guests, too numerous to list.

In particular: Oscar Award winner for Free Solo documentary, before it won the Oscar

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and Paul Stamets who is a mycologist, author and advocate of bioremediation and medicinal fungi: the latest Star Trek T.V. series used his ideas about how mushrooms propagate on a "Quantum" level" which when used as a source for a "Warp Drive" that essentially allows for the craft to be anywhere in the universe "instantly".

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[Tyy1907]

The exposed video confirmed what I've felt for some time now about Joe Rogan. I've gotten the shill vibe from him from the get go. That being said the guests he has on make the show why I started tuning in lately. Since the Alex Jones return show I've checked out a few like Jesse Ventura and what not.

His shill vibe kind of turns me off though cause at times he puts out a manipulative follow me kind of vibe. Consumption for the masses to influence and steer as he's directed.

[CurEus]

I have found most of his podcasts to be informative and challenging the current narrative on health, society, medicine and nutrition.
He has raised to prminence several researchers, citzen scientists and alt thinkers that were really quite informative and interesting.

I do not watch his MMA/Sports shows very often but...some have proven to be insightful as well.

If he is a total shill.....I find it unlikely.........but as we all know. Anyone of influence may be tried to be influenced.

[Jad]

I want to echo Bill’s description that Rogan is the best on the circuit. I haven’t seen a better interviewer than him in both alternative or normal Media. In my opinion he is very aware of the whole game but is also smart enough to keep his mouth shut and not piss off the owners of this planet. He has a family to look after and he knows exactly how to stay authentic and anti establishment without crossing the line.

[Praxis]

I am not sure what norman is getting at with the flick of a switch but I am pretty sure that he just called me stupid. Can I get confirmation on this one?

Am I misreading that?

[Tyy1907]

I want to echo Bill’s description that Rogan is the best on the circuit. I haven’t seen a better interviewer than him in both alternative or normal Media. In my opinion he is very aware of the whole game but is also smart enough to keep his mouth shut and not piss off the owners of this planet. He has a family to look after and he knows exactly how to stay authentic and anti establishment without crossing the line.

Joe Rogan is good at a lot of things including interviewing. That's why he's in the position he's in. But he'll keep playing the "I'm dumb I just like to get high" card to reinforce the "average joe" persona. What should we do next Joe?

[Mike]

I want to echo Bill’s description that Rogan is the best on the circuit. I haven’t seen a better interviewer than him in both alternative or normal Media. In my opinion he is very aware of the whole game but is also smart enough to keep his mouth shut and not piss off the owners of this planet. He has a family to look after and he knows exactly how to stay authentic and anti establishment without crossing the line.

Joe Rogan is good at a lot of things including interviewing. That's why he's in the position he's in. But he'll keep playing the "I'm dumb I just like to get high" card to reinforce the "average joe" persona. What should we do next Joe?


well even his weed smoking is meticulously researched. he's a veritable encyclopedia of weed and all it's merits and demerits. he's a fiercely logical guy, well read, and open-minded enough to have someone like Alex on the show but not so much that his brains are falling out.

it's clear to me that he takes pride in his preparation and his emphasis on the intellectual. he will freely admit when he doesn't know something, but I have no idea how you're getting, "I'm dumb and I just like to get high" from that.

people on forums like ours have to understand that not everyone has been exposed to all the material we have; someone like Joe is aware of quite a few of the goings-on in our community here, but some of the details he's hearing for the first time. lets not mistake his intellectual probing and refusal to jump to conclusions with waffling or deep state sympathies.

he's not on "our" side any more than he's on "their" side. he's just an intellectually curious dude with a popular podcast, occasionally wading thru some very murky waters. that's it

[Kano]

In my opinion he is very aware of the whole game but is also smart enough to keep his mouth shut and not piss off the owners of this planet. He has a family to look after and he knows exactly how to stay authentic and anti establishment without crossing the line.

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

[TargeT]

I have to say, I really don't care too much personally who Joe Rogan's producers or Sponsors might be.

(IIRC) Joe is the producer of his Pod cast, he started it a long time ago from his living room and has expanded over the years but it's always been him (and his friends) running the show.

I think that's what makes his interviews so good, he's doing what he wants to do and is genuinely interested in talking about the topics he covers.

[Caliban]

well even his weed smoking is meticulously researched. he's a veritable encyclopedia of weed and all it's merits and demerits. he's a fiercely logical guy, well read, and open-minded enough to have someone like Alex on the show but not so much that his brains are falling out.

it's clear to me that he takes pride in his preparation and his emphasis on the intellectual. he will freely admit when he doesn't know something, but I have no idea how you're getting, "I'm dumb and I just like to get high" from that.

people on forums like ours have to understand that not everyone has been exposed to all the material we have; someone like Joe is aware of quite a few of the goings-on in our community here, but some of the details he's hearing for the first time. lets not mistake his intellectual probing and refusal to jump to conclusions with waffling or deep state sympathies.

he's not on "our" side any more than he's on "their" side. he's just an intellectually curious dude with a popular podcast, occasionally wading thru some very murky waters. that's it

That's really not "it." I don't know if he's handled by anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if some particular parties are putting money in his pockets to say some things and NOT say others. He does have some good guests, but let's not forget that the guy is making millions of dollars a year from this thing. He makes money not only from his obvious advertisements but he also sneaks in ads by verbally "slipping in" certain products. This was pointed out in Matthew's videos and I find it very insidious.

Something's off about the guy, no matter how cool, current and trendy he appears. Watch some of his other videos, he treats some of his guests horribly, like Steven Tyler for example, and others. Interrupting, sly sarcasm and various forms of macho bulls--t. The guy has a huge ego. And we're all feeding it! No wonder he and Jones have a love-hate thing going.

[Joe Akulis]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

I think you just put Bill Ryan into the category of controlled opposition with that statement. :-)

[TargeT]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

I think you just put Bill Ryan into the category of controlled opposition with that statement. :-)

And me, and most of us.....

[Mike]

well even his weed smoking is meticulously researched. he's a veritable encyclopedia of weed and all it's merits and demerits. he's a fiercely logical guy, well read, and open-minded enough to have someone like Alex on the show but not so much that his brains are falling out.

it's clear to me that he takes pride in his preparation and his emphasis on the intellectual. he will freely admit when he doesn't know something, but I have no idea how you're getting, "I'm dumb and I just like to get high" from that.

people on forums like ours have to understand that not everyone has been exposed to all the material we have; someone like Joe is aware of quite a few of the goings-on in our community here, but some of the details he's hearing for the first time. lets not mistake his intellectual probing and refusal to jump to conclusions with waffling or deep state sympathies.

he's not on "our" side any more than he's on "their" side. he's just an intellectually curious dude with a popular podcast, occasionally wading thru some very murky waters. that's it

That's really not "it." I don't know if he's handled by anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if some particular parties are putting money in his pockets to say some things and NOT say others. He does have some good guests, but let's not forget that the guy is making millions of dollars a year from this thing. He makes money not only from his obvious advertisements but he also sneaks in ads by verbally "slipping in" certain products. This was pointed out in Matthew's videos and I find it very insidious.

Something's off about the guy, no matter how cool, current and trendy he appears. Watch some of his other videos, he treats some of his guests horribly, like Steven Tyler for example, and others. Interrupting, sly sarcasm and various forms of macho bulls--t. The guy has a huge ego. And we're all feeding it! No wonder he and Jones have a love-hate thing going.


well i don't agree with much of that, but fair enough.

i've seen quite a few of his videos. i think i get the gist.

here's the issue i have with the thread, and some of what you're saying: you said, something is off about the guy. in this community, something is always off about somebody!:) we're the harshest judges! in other words, we won't allow ourselves to fully enjoy anybody who comes along because of this perceived fault or that one. our collective mantra should be, if there isn't an issue with someone, we'll find one! (...and if we can't find one, we'll play some distorted game of '7 degrees of kevin bacon' to make him look like george soros best buddy)

it's like in a romantic relationship, when one partner subconsciously is sabotaging the thing to prevent from being hurt in the future. we've been made to look foolish so many times, that we now over-compensate in some situations..this being one in my opinion.

joe can be a little annoying at times, but who isn't??? for however many units of sarcasm he's displayed, he's offered us 10,000 more in sheer value. for all the quality he offers us, i'm willing to make allowances for the occasional hiccup.

as for the ad thing, it doesn't trouble me. i mean, you get 2 straight hours of uninterrupted material..no commercials!! it's unheard of these days. rogan slipping in a few product placement things seems like a small price to pay for that!

[James]

There’s really nothing to expose here? He’s a sensible, humorous man with a semi-popular podcast exploring martial arts, psychedelics, comedy, and even a little science.

As Bill said earlier, if anything, he’s doing the community a favor featuring uncomfortable opinions from the likes of Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson.

[Bill Ryan]

i mean, you get 2 straight hours of uninterrupted material..no commercials!! it's unheard of these days. rogan slipping in a few product placement things seems like a small price to pay for that!

Right. Compare that with MANY other podcasts, where the hysterical commercials go on for sometimes 5 minutes on end. If Joe Rogan is selling anything at all (and I'll not question anyone's word that he is!), I've simply never noticed it. That's just fine by me. :)

And I do appreciate that he's not got any kind of paywall behind which 'part 2' is always held back for paying subscribers. Too many people do that now, and I really dislike it. (I'd rather suffer the in-your-face commercials.)

Nor does he ever once hit the desperate pleading hammer of LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE !!!! And no livestream viewers, who so many YouTubers fawn to, and no 'superchat' donations. (OMG.)

And no fluffy cats. :) And no wife or partner who's obliged to be in on almost everything.

We need more podcasts like this, not less. A lot more.

[Mike]

i mean, you get 2 straight hours of uninterrupted material..no commercials!! it's unheard of these days. rogan slipping in a few product placement things seems like a small price to pay for that!

Right. Compare that with MANY other podcasts, where the hysterical commercials go on for sometimes 5 minutes on end. If Joe Rogan is selling anything at all (and I'll not question anyone's word that he is!), I've simply never noticed it. That's just fine by me. :)

And I do appreciate that he's not got any kind of paywall behind which 'part 2' is always held back for paying subscribers. Too many people do that now, and I really dislike it. (I'd rather suffer the in-your-face commercials.)

Nor does he ever once hit the desperate pleading hammer of LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE !!!! And no livestream viewers, who so many YouTubers fawn to, and no 'superchat' donations. (OMG.)

And no fluffy cats. :) And no wife or partner who's obliged to be in on almost everything.

We need more podcasts like this, not less. A lot more.




...and no joe rogan t shirts for sale;)

[Tyy1907]

I see the good that he does in providing a platform for great thinkers. I think it boils down to personal opinion or intuition. I dont resonate with how he interacts with certain guests by kind of controlling the narrative. He's a mainstream podcast in my opinion. What can I say I dont go along with " were all cyborgs already" as Joe reiterated Elon Musks statement.

[Bill Ryan]

What can I say I dont go along with " were all cyborgs already" as Joe reiterated Elon Musks statement.

What I think that means is this:

Give your smartphone to a friend for 7 days, and instruct him or her NOT to give it back to you no matter how much you beg and plead.

And use that time to take some long walks, meditate, listen to music, do some gardening, or simply talk at length with good friends over real coffee. :)

Then — one might realize how conditioned, programmed and controlled we all really are.

[Tyy1907]

My wife would never allow that. It's my tracking device lol

[Caliban]

i mean, you get 2 straight hours of uninterrupted material..no commercials!! it's unheard of these days. rogan slipping in a few product placement things seems like a small price to pay for that!

Right. Compare that with MANY other podcasts, where the hysterical commercials go on for sometimes 5 minutes on end. If Joe Rogan is selling anything at all (and I'll not question anyone's word that he is!), I've simply never noticed it. That's just fine by me. :)

And I do appreciate that he's not got any kind of paywall behind which 'part 2' is always held back for paying subscribers. Too many people do that now, and I really dislike it. (I'd rather suffer the in-your-face commercials.)

Nor does he ever once hit the desperate pleading hammer of LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE !!!! And no livestream viewers, who so many YouTubers fawn to, and no 'superchat' donations. (OMG.)

And no fluffy cats. :) And no wife or partner who's obliged to be in on almost everything.

We need more podcasts like this, not less. A lot more.

I'm not gonna argue with your opinion of Rogan or anyone else's. But your last point I will counter -- we need LESS podcasts and more of --- something else.

What that something else is, I don't exactly know. But I do remember Alex Jones's reaction to the Occupy Wall St. movement. Not only did he play it down, he knocked it down, said it was basically worthless, maybe even some kind of set up or however he phrases that. At that moment I knew Jones didn't want to see any real change in this country. Anything truly beautiful to happen between people. I was there and I saw it myself. We hadn't had anything like that since the 60s and nothing since. Where people weren't watching a podcast or looking at their screens. They were standing in front of each other and talking with one another -- agreeing and disagreeing. That's when I saw what Jones was about. (Interestingly, I've mentioned this on Avalon before and no one took it up).

So, no, we don't need more podcasts. Or more chat forums with endless speculations. We need more people giving up the "stories," and talking to each other. Giving up the heroes with the loud voices and the big muscles and the money and prestige to lure the famous people. Who keep on telling us "what it's like and what life is really about."

[Tyy1907]

i mean, you get 2 straight hours of uninterrupted material..no commercials!! it's unheard of these days. rogan slipping in a few product placement things seems like a small price to pay for that!

Right. Compare that with MANY other podcasts, where the hysterical commercials go on for sometimes 5 minutes on end. If Joe Rogan is selling anything at all (and I'll not question anyone's word that he is!), I've simply never noticed it. That's just fine by me. :)

And I do appreciate that he's not got any kind of paywall behind which 'part 2' is always held back for paying subscribers. Too many people do that now, and I really dislike it. (I'd rather suffer the in-your-face commercials.)

Nor does he ever once hit the desperate pleading hammer of LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE !!!! And no livestream viewers, who so many YouTubers fawn to, and no 'superchat' donations. (OMG.)

And no fluffy cats. :) And no wife or partner who's obliged to be in on almost everything.

We need more podcasts like this, not less. A lot more.

I'm not gonna argue with your opinion of Rogan or anyone else's. But your last point I will counter -- we need LESS podcasts and more of --- something else.

What that something else is, I don't exactly know. But I do remember Alex Jones's reaction to the Occupy Wall St. movement. Not only did he play it down, he knocked it down, said it was basically worthless, maybe even some kind of set up or however he phrases that. At that moment I knew Jones didn't want to see any real change in this country. Anything truly beautiful to happen between people. I was there and I saw it myself. We hadn't had anything like that since the 60s and nothing since. Where people weren't watching a podcast or looking at their screens. They were standing in front of each other and talking with one another -- agreeing and disagreeing. That's when I saw what Jones was about. (Interestingly, I've mentioned this on Avalon before and no one took it up).

So, no, we don't need more podcasts. Or more chat forums with endless speculations. We need more people giving up the "stories," and talking to each other. Giving up the heroes with the loud voices and the big muscles and the money and prestige to lure the famous people. Who keep on telling us "what it's like and what life is really about."

Can I ask when was this Occupy movement?

[Caliban]

Can I ask when was this Occupy movement?

Around 2011

[Kano]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

I think you just put Bill Ryan into the category of controlled opposition with that statement. :-)

Are you saying that you think Bill knows things that he is intentionally not sharing with the group for fear of being killed? I would love to hear that from Bill if that's the case.

[Kano]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

I think you just put Bill Ryan into the category of controlled opposition with that statement. :-)

And me, and most of us.....

No, not really. Joe has a platform to reach millions and millions of people with his podcast. You do not. You could espouse whatever you believe/know and there is a very high probability there will be no negative consequences for you. This is essentially because you can't affect the masses the way Joe can. Therefore, you are not/would not be considered controlled opposition.

[TargeT]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

I think you just put Bill Ryan into the category of controlled opposition with that statement. :-)

And me, and most of us.....

No, not really. Joe has a platform to reach millions and millions of people with his podcast. You do not. You could espouse whatever you believe/know and there is a very high probability there will be no negative consequences for you. This is essentially because you can't affect the masses the way Joe can. Therefore, you are not/would not be considered controlled opposition.

My main youtube channel only has around 600,000 views (though all my channels combined have over 1 million views); so yeah.... I guess I'm not cool enough... haha

Why would you assume you know me or what I do? Do you just assume everyone is a pleb?

[Kano]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. He does tackle many interesting topics but he certainly knows where not to go. And to that end, he is controlled opposition.

I think you just put Bill Ryan into the category of controlled opposition with that statement. :-)

And me, and most of us.....

No, not really. Joe has a platform to reach millions and millions of people with his podcast. You do not. You could espouse whatever you believe/know and there is a very high probability there will be no negative consequences for you. This is essentially because you can't affect the masses the way Joe can. Therefore, you are not/would not be considered controlled opposition.

My main youtube channel only has around 600,000 views (though all my channels combined have over 1 million views); so yeah.... I guess I'm not cool enough... haha

Why would you assume you know me or what I do? Do you just assume everyone is a pleb?

Whoa, didn't think you'd be that touchy about not being considered controlled opposition. Ok, ok, you're controlled opposition. :happythumbsup:

I assumed you understood my point was that since Joe has the most popular podcast in history and as a result he casts arguably the broadest net of listeners of anyone, he's in a class of his own. But there I go assuming again.

I see that you have great pride and passion for your YouTube success, congrats! I'm not sure how that relates back to my comments about Joe being controlled opposition. I was discussing Joe, you made this about you.

Enjoy this cat video with almost 24,000,000 views.

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[TargeT]

I assumed you understood my point was that since Joe has the most popular podcast in history and as a result he casts arguably the broadest net of listeners of anyone, he's in a class of his own. But there I go assuming again.


I don't think that just because your large and have a big reach it means your controlled op if you choose to avoid topics.

I also think that smaller "voices" could absolutely be real "controlled opposition"; I guess I see him more of social agreement constrained than "controlled opposition"

[Kano]

I assumed you understood my point was that since Joe has the most popular podcast in history and as a result he casts arguably the broadest net of listeners of anyone, he's in a class of his own. But there I go assuming again.


I don't think that just because your large and have a big reach it means your controlled op if you choose to avoid topics.

I also think that smaller "voices" could absolutely be real "controlled opposition"; I guess I see him more of social agreement constrained than "controlled opposition"

Now that I will co-sign on. I do agree that it doesn't necessarily mean he is "controlled opposition" just because he has a huge voice but chooses to avoid certain subjects. But it doesn't mean he's not either. It's certainly a grey area. I guess I just find it a little suspect that he has flip flopped on some major issues (fake moon landings for example) as well as the fact that he takes on such a huge array of topics but he will not touch topics like the known elite pedophile rings/child trafficking with a 10 foot pole. To that end, it seems more like controlled opposition than social contract constrained.

[TargeT]

but he will not touch topics like the known elite pedophile rings/child trafficking with a 10 foot pole. To that end, it seems more like controlled opposition than social contract constrained.

Well he does live in LA.... that's kinda like, in "those types of people's" back yard right?

I don't see him changing his mind about the moon landings as a negative thing; I think it'd be far worse if he just clung to it and didn't have the ability to change his mind.

I also see in him things about myself as well... I just don't go into some topics, they hold no interest for me.

or maybe I'm just biased and making up excuses, hard to say from my keyboard warrior position :ROFL:

[Kano]

Well he does live in LA.... that's kinda like, in "those types of people's" back yard right?
True. He comes across as such a pioneer in his desire to take on so many untalked about topics, it would seem that everything would be fair game. Clearly it is not.


I don't see him changing his mind about the moon landings as a negative thing; I think it'd be far worse if he just clung to it and didn't have the ability to change his mind.
I agree with this too. It's just that his explanation of why he changed his mind lacks any real substance. He's definitely a free thinker. Not disputing that. But in particular, the moon landing flip flop feels disingenuous.


I also see in him things about myself as well... I just don't go into some topics, they hold no interest for me.

or maybe I'm just biased and making up excuses, hard to say from my keyboard warrior position :ROFL:
Totally understood. And maybe at the end of the day, it just doesn't interest him. But that explanation doesn't ping my truth bell.

[Star Tsar]

Logos Media

The Inerlectual Darkweb : A Conversation With Matthew North & Jesse Spots

Published 12th March 2019

Jan hosts Matthew & Jesse in order to have a dialogue on the interlectual darkweb, a corporate group that Mr Rogan is alleged to be involved with.

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[waree]

Logos Media

The Inerlectual Darkweb : A Conversation With Matthew North & Jesse Spots

Published 12th March 2019

Jan hosts Matthew & Jesse in order to have a dialogue on the interlectual darkweb, a corporate group that Mr Rogan is alleged to be involved with.

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Thank you. These guys seem more genuine to me than those professional characters like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones even though they are kind of boring haha. I still listen to JR and AJ because they are very entertaining. But I want to balance it out and listen to the other side as well. It is interesting to me that they talked about the Brave New World agenda. One of Qanon post that mentioned the "Brave New World" gave me a chill down my spine and nobody can tell me what he/she meant by that. May be these guys are right.

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Nov 7 2018 13:12:06 (EST)
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
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Q

Yike!!! :fear: ... I am still following Q though. Still hope he/she meant well haha. :happythumbsup:

[Apulu]

My 2 cents:

I agree with most - my impression is that Joe is just a guy who's really good at what he does, interviewing the people who interest and excite him the most. A big audience attracts big sponsors.

It seems he can considers most of his guest friends, and to be able to do that, it has to be reciprocated. I think that says a lot, considering the types of people he has on. To my mind he's way too human to be just a front for somebody else's agenda.

He does indeed plug things throughout the show, and I often notice when he does. But that's how the format works.

And I think he does indeed steer away from properly discussing some topics. No surprise! If I were in his position, I would probably do the same. I think he introduces a huge spectrum of people, who would otherwise probably miss out, to topics which are simply not in the circle of the mainstream. What would be the point, with such a following, to start alienating huge chunks of his audience, and his sponsors, by discussing extremely divisive topics, which are not simply understood. I think you have to have a pretty solid background to properly follow that type of discussion, and there are plenty of other people out there who provide that type of discussion.

I wonder how many here on Avalon, who are so quick to call controlled opposition, would be willing to jeopardise their livelihood, and their families livelihood, by sharing everything they know on the most controversial subjects. I'm not willing to do that round the dinner table able any more, let alone sharing with millions of people who I might depend on for an income! It's pointless! If you were to really go for it, you would immediately lose most of the people listening, who otherwise might benefit a lot from a friendlier, edited version of whatever worlds-most-divisive topic you happened to be discussing.

[Carmody]

I tend to find that it always comes down to that line 'be the change you want to see in the world'. As in... don't ask for the protection of the pack, by letting others validate a position for the self. To try and mouth and mime risk without actually taking it.

Change does not happen unless one moves into change themselves. This herd instinct is why societies and cultures fall off cliffs or are herded into dumpsters...while nothing is done by the people. Even if the signs are obvious. It's not about what one sees, witnesses, or views....but about what one does themselves.

The Buddhists and what not make that clear as can be with the line 'change comes from within'.

Essentially, I don't expect Rogan to show enough data to get people riled up enough to act. Not going to happen. To do that is to bring death to his door. All a public person can really do is hint, via the filter of their own path in knowledge and knowing...

People already know how real and desperate the situations in the world are.

Their fears hold them back, their animal psychology and physiology hold them back. The data and the logic of the scenarios is clear, and always has been.

The host of humanity is overloaded with parasites to such a high degree, that the host is in severe danger of collapsing. The parasite wants to fix it by a controlled and directed collapse of the host so it fits their desired host model better.

The host might have issues with that. It's a cognitive and cognitive rumination speed issue, and the more intelligent a person is, the quicker they can get that done and be in a position to be a parasite and not a host.

The vast majority of what is the parasite is intelligence mixed with lack of emotions, ie sociopaths and psychopaths. The lower tiers of intelligence are filled with these psychopaths and sociopaths who are the meat and bones of the given parasitical oligarchy. The mechanistic levers and motions. They run the show from this position of enabled intellect via lack of emotions for the group and this fear and desire orientation. Smart enough to act on their fear/desires, but not smart enough to completely cloak themselves.

The bully is in charge because he is violent. Full stop.

The better class of intelligent and capable people are targeted by this lower tier, this lower tier that uses force to be in charge.

The trick to understand is that their control is vaporware. It's a purposeful mist and haze. If you wake up and actually move, they are toast.

Now, when I say that, it is true, but this is the part that makes people fall back to sleep. As they can win any time, so they don't risk themselves. And thus the world dies. The SEP syndrome...(Somebody Else's Problem)

Exactly the same way that the monkey in us wants a more illiterate and more thirsty monkey to be the one to walk down the tall grass trail to the water, first. So 'other' can take risk to find out if it is 'safe'. We avoid risk as a matter of biological function.

Biology is not intelligent. But it certainly does involve itself in your thought formation and subsequent actions or lack thereof.

[mindbend8r]

Joe rogan is one of the few real people out there to trust for watching for truth. This video this kid made is just all made up bs. You cant believe every accusation everyone makes on the internet. This kid just doesn't know what he is talking about and is lost. Joe Rogan is a cool dude and knows the deal. And isn't bought out by anybody.

[Mike Gorman]

Joe Rogan is a media personality, for me he is a professional Devil's Advocate who skates along the ice very deftly. Sponsors, supporters do not have to define us, they are people who see an opportunity to promote themselves, if that involves enabling a broad scope of subject, so be it. Success is always the subject of envy, and hostility. I like Joe, and his choice to give Alex Jones an opportunity to reach more people, more to the better.

[Savannah]

i mean, you get 2 straight hours of uninterrupted material..no commercials!! it's unheard of these days. rogan slipping in a few product placement things seems like a small price to pay for that!

Right. Compare that with MANY other podcasts, where the hysterical commercials go on for sometimes 5 minutes on end. If Joe Rogan is selling anything at all (and I'll not question anyone's word that he is!), I've simply never noticed it. That's just fine by me. :)

And I do appreciate that he's not got any kind of paywall behind which 'part 2' is always held back for paying subscribers. Too many people do that now, and I really dislike it. (I'd rather suffer the in-your-face commercials.)

Nor does he ever once hit the desperate pleading hammer of LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE !!!! And no livestream viewers, who so many YouTubers fawn to, and no 'superchat' donations. (OMG.)

And no fluffy cats. :) And no wife or partner who's obliged to be in on almost everything.

We need more podcasts like this, not less. A lot more.

I'm not gonna argue with your opinion of Rogan or anyone else's. But your last point I will counter -- we need LESS podcasts and more of --- something else.

What that something else is, I don't exactly know. But I do remember Alex Jones's reaction to the Occupy Wall St. movement. Not only did he play it down, he knocked it down, said it was basically worthless, maybe even some kind of set up or however he phrases that. At that moment I knew Jones didn't want to see any real change in this country. Anything truly beautiful to happen between people. I was there and I saw it myself. We hadn't had anything like that since the 60s and nothing since. Where people weren't watching a podcast or looking at their screens. They were standing in front of each other and talking with one another -- agreeing and disagreeing. That's when I saw what Jones was about. (Interestingly, I've mentioned this on Avalon before and no one took it up).

So, no, we don't need more podcasts. Or more chat forums with endless speculations. We need more people giving up the "stories," and talking to each other. Giving up the heroes with the loud voices and the big muscles and the money and prestige to lure the famous people. Who keep on telling us "what it's like and what life is really about."

To me it seems we need both. We need trusted information to decide about what we want to actively go out and protest or change in some way. When we protested the Vietnam war everyone knew the objective was to stop the war. Occupy Wall Street, with what end, what objective, no one knew. It made a laughing stock out of protesting, like it was some face book get together to look cool. :focus:

[AutumnW]

"Occupy Wall Street," drew attention to the fact that 1% of the population enjoy most of the rewards of corporatism. That they didn't have a clearly defined 'end goal' was obvious and shouldn't have been expected. It's not as if they could don battle gear and attack 'the enemy.'

[AutumnW]

What Mike said....I LOVE Joe Rogan.

[Caliban]

To me it seems we need both. We need trusted information to decide about what we want to actively go out and protest or change in some way. When we protested the Vietnam war everyone knew the objective was to stop the war. Occupy Wall Street, with what end, what objective, no one knew. It made a laughing stock out of protesting, like it was some face book get together to look cool. :focus:

No, it wasn't a Facebook thing to look cool. Did you ever go down there, in any of the cities? I did, in New York, several times. One of the problems was that they wouldn't accept the idea of leaders so there was no centralized way to get a message out or direct a movement. That was a mistake, in spite of our not liking to listen to leaders. It probably went too far too fast with occupying spaces and whatnot, and that's also why it was crushed so soon.

It really saddens me that the last great gasp of a movement that we had -- whose participants included lefties, righties, and in betweeners -- is put down in this way. These people were standing there and saying "this is what is happening with power and money in this country." How much more objective do you need???

[Strat]

I don't see him changing his mind about the moon landings as a negative thing; I think it'd be far worse if he just clung to it and didn't have the ability to change his mind.


1,000% agreed. I think this is a problem in this community but its the same problem in discussing politics, religion, etc (and oddly enough dieting).

I like joes 'I don't know' attitude, it's not a cop out it's called being smart. Bill Maher said the same thing in Religulous, "I'm in the church of 'i don't know'." Also who was it (plato? socrates?) "If I know anything its that I know nothing." Regarding his macho behavior and sarcastic attitude - who cares? If it offends you then you should learn to develop emotional calluses. Keep in mind hes a stand up comedian and their circles are brutal with the way they talk to each other. Also he's from Boston (bleh).

Oh and occupy wal street: I know a gal who worked in the city and she said walking to work by that protest was like walking by a bar at 2am. Fun Fact CIA contacted her for a job which she turned down and I berate her at every chance possible.

[AutumnW]

Caliban,

Note how, post Occupy, there was so much attention focussed on alt right and the radical left safe spaces crowd? For anyone thinking there is a hidden hand guiding and controlling social sentiment, they should take a good hard look at this.

Who does it serve when people are unconsciously shepherded away from eying bankers, stockbrokers and other parasites while being corralled into the useful left versus right paradigm?

[Star Tsar]

I like this clip of Joe...

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[muxfolder]

I like Joe and his show and don't personally think he's a CIA-agent or whatever some people have been trying to point out. He's just genuinely curious and interested in his guests and what they're saying and tries to be somewhere in the middle not being on anyone's side particularly. And he's very good interviewer. It doesn't surprise me his show is as popular as it is.

[Star Tsar]

Jordan B Peterson

Who is Joe Rogan?

Published 16th June 2019

Joe Rogan may be a world reowned interviewer but this time he is on the other side of the MIC talking to Mr Peterson!

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[neutronstar]

Your opening video is interesting. His connections are a little thought provoking. I also have red flags that come up with him at times, but I am not convinced that he is controlled. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that way though.

My view on him at the moment is he doesn't want to be the conspiracy guy now that his podcast is popular. Doesn't want to be the butt of the jokes. He also doesn't have the balls to go up against the deep state. He does have a family to think about and that is an excuse I wont argue about.

But whenever you get as big as he is you have to question it, because the deep state has their eyes on him.

[RedX]

[I like this clip of Joe...

The last 15 secs of the video Joe really nailed it where he says "Abby you're tied down to television young woman!" Meaning...she can't really express her own thoughts because she is controlled somewhat to a MSM type narrative.

[Star Tsar]

NewsFlash Joe is going to dinner with Mr Lazar tonight! (Oh what I'd give to be a fly in his soup!) & Is scheduled on the podcast tomorrow!!!!

Skip to 24:40

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[Star Tsar]

As promised...


The Joe Rogan Experience

Episode #1315 | Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell

Published 21st June 2019

Bob Lazar is a physicist who worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory on reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology at a site called S-4 near the Area 51 Groom Lake operating location. Jeremy Corbell is a contemporary artist and documentary filmmaker.

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