Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

[KiwiElf]

BREAKING NEWS - Fatal shootings at Christchurch mosques
16:26, Mar 15 2019

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313238/shooting-at-christchurch-mosque

One person has been arrested, but police believe there may be other offenders involved in the fatal shootings of at least nine people at two mosques in Christchurch.

Sources say nine people have been confirmed dead following the shootings at the Masjid Al Noor on Deans Ave and the Linwood Masjid on Linwood Ave.

Police Commissioner Mike Bush said police were responding to "a very serious and tragic incident involving an active shooter in central Christchurch".

Ambulance crews were filmed taking the injured away from the scene of the shooting at a mosque in Christchurch.

"One person is in custody, however police believe there may be other offenders.

"This is an evolving incident and we are working to confirm the facts, however we can confirm there have been a number of fatalities."

Officers were at several scenes around the city.

"We understand that there will be many anxious people but I can assure New Zealanders that police is doing all it can to resolve this incident.

"We urge New Zealanders to stay vigilant and report any suspicious behaviour immediately to 111."

He asked Christchurch residents to stay inside and said all mosques around the country should shut their doors.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said it was one on New Zealand's "darkest days".

Waikato law professor Al Gillespie said it was too early to speculate on the motives of the shooter, but drew a distinction between mass shootings and terrorism.

Terrorism was politically motivated, and international trends showed it was primarily motivated by jihad, left-wing and nationalist sentiment, he said.

"New Zealand terrorist threat risk is 'low' … compared to the rest of the world we're one of the safest countries in existence.

"If it's more than one person involved, then it's not a lone wolf, and then it's a cell, and the whole point of these security services is that these cells are detected."

HOSPITAL ON ALERT

Stuff understands the emergency department at Christchurch Hospital has been cleared out. Hospital staff are expecting about 40 to 50 injured people.

Armed police have been checking all vehicles outside Christchurch Hospital.

"We have approximately 20 emergency ambulances and operational vehicles at scene providing support."

The charity is sending additional resources from around the country "to support our people on the ground at the Christchurch firearms incident".

Deans Ave has been closed, while Linwood Ave has been closed between Aldwins Rd and Worcester St, and Brougham St (State Highway 76) has been closed between Antigua and Durham streets.

About 20 armed police have worked to clear buildings in Linwood, including Eastgate Mall, which will be closed for the rest of the day.

CHILDREN IN MOSQUE

A man, who would not give his name, said he was praying in the Deans Ave mosque when he heard the shooting start.

He managed to escape, but saw his wife lying dead on the footpath outside.

"My wife is dead," he said, wailing. His head was supported by other Muslim men who prayed for him.

Another man said he saw children being shot.

Dozens of people were shot by a man wearing military uniform, who emptied at least two magazines.

"There were bodies all over me."

Ranzan Ala said everyone started running to one of the doors when the shooting began. Once he got outside and ran away, he saw he had blood on him from other people.

"Oh my God, I don't want to see this kind of thing, it's a nightmare. It's going to be there for weeks and months."

His friend from Fiji was also in the mosque with him and was missing.

About 20 to 30 children had been among the roughly 500 people inside, he said.

Argyle on the Park owner Lena Borodin said she saw a man in a silver car pulled up outside her motel and shoot an elderly Muslim man who was walking toward the mosque.

The shot shattered the driver's side window of the gunman's car, Borodin said.

The elderly man, aged in his 70s, was shot in his side. He lay on the ground outside a unit at the motel until a police came and helped him.

The gunman, who she described as young and skinny, then drove away.

A bloodstain can be seen on the concrete where he lay at the motel.

'INDISCRIMINATE SHOOTING' DURING PRAYERS​

A resident on nearby Freyberg St said she heard "hundreds" of shots and it was "terrifying".

Muslim Association of Marlborough chairman Zayd Blissett said he found out about the shooting from a text sent by the Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand at 2.04pm, saying "50 shot" during Friday prayers in Christchurch.

"I'm just heartbroken. In fact I'm sitting here crying," he said.

"This is New Zealand. This can't happen here."

- Full article at link - unfolding story

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313238/shooting-at-christchurch-mosque

TVNZ Live:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/live-mass-shooting-christchurch-mosque-police-respond-active-shooter-situation

[KiwiElf]

UPDATE:

49 people now confirmed dead, some of them very young children, and 48 more seriously injured
Four people have been apprehended, three males (one of whom is confirmed to be of Australian citizenship), & one female - there may be more
Explosive devices were found on each of the two vehicles involved
All local flights out of Christchurch have been suspended, the immediate area is still in lockdown
Anti-Muslim views were posted before the shootings and the entire shooting was videoed live stream to social media by one of the suspects wearing a body cam (not yet publicly available and have been removed by Facebook & others)
Local & overseas Intelligence suggests this attack was well orchestrated and planned in advance with outside (foreign) help including providing the shooters with armaments & explosive devices (NZ is effectively "gun free")
Now being labelled as the worst terrorist attack in NZ

[Brightstar]

“Beware the Ides of March 15th....my thoughts and prayers are with NZ and all the families affected with this horrific incident 🙏🙏🙏

[Patient]

*warning* I heard through a friend that one of the shooters had a live video feed recording his actions so pleae be careful if/when sesrching this story so that you do not inadvertently see something that you would rather not see.

[Fellow Aspirant]

*warning* I heard through a friend that one of the shooters had a live video feed recording his actions so pleae be careful if/when sesrching this story so that you do not inadvertently see something that you would rather not see.

Thankfully, FB has taken his video down.

Not before "The Daily Stormer" folks were able to capture and link to it, however.

B.

[BMJ]

This is starting to smell a little fishy.

Why would the shooter even say that? Did he really?

It seemed like an opportunity for the journalist to turn this tragedy into a hit piece on Pewdie Pie. Refer to further comments below.


Who is PewdiePie? Behind controversial YouTuber praised by New Zealand gunman

PewdiePie, real name Felix Kjellberg, is a 29-year-old YouTuber and comedian with 89 million subscribers.

He was referenced by New Zealand gunmen just before the horror Christchurch mosque shootings on Friday, who said: "Remember, lads, subscribe to PewDiePie," referencing the popular Swedish YouTuber.

Responding, PewDiePie wrote: "Just heard news of the devastating reports from New Zealand Christchurch. I feel absolutely sickened having my name uttered by this person. My heart and thoughts go out to the victims, families and everyone affected by this tragedy."

But just who is the YouTuber and why is he so controversial?

He hit the big time after uploading scores of videos showing the Swedish national playing video games with OTT commetary.

But 2017 one of the videos "appeared to show" him using the racial slur "n****r".

He was accused of promoting racism and anti-Semitism.

Disney then dropped Swedish YouTube star from his lucrative platform. He had amassed close to 14.7 billion video views on his main channel alone.

The move came after after he published a number of offensive anti-semitic videos.

In one of those videos, he had paid two people in India through a crowd-sourcing platform for holding up a sign that read "death to all Jews."

Link: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/who-is-pewdiepie-behind-controversial-youtuber-praised-by-new-zealand-gunman/ar-BBUNOyW?ocid=mailsignout

[BMJ]

This is even more fishy.

This journalistic piece reads like a tptw wishlist of "to be censored public personalities in Australia and New Zealand."

Is this journalistic trying to provoke a emotional reaction against white people in Australia and New Zealand with all the white supremacist talk?


Australian gunman opens fire in Christchurch mosque terror attack


AUSSIE GUNMAN’S MANIFESTO EMERGES

The gunman’s manifesto contains “white supremacist” propaganda. Mr Buchanan told 1NEWSNZ he had seen the manifesto, and the shooting is “clearly the case of a white supremacist.”

In the 73-page document, he said he had planned the attack for two years and had a location lined up three months before the attack today.

He goes on to describe himself as an “eco-fascist”.

“I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before becoming an eco-fascist,” he wrote.

He claims to have had brief contact with Anders Breivik, who was a far-right terrorist who killed 69 members of a youth league summer camp on the Norwegian island of Utoya in 2011. He killed a further eight through a car bomb in Oslo.

He was a member of anti-immigration, far-right groups and claimed to be a member of a new order of Christian Knight Templars.

The gunman also wrote of how he supported US President Donald Trump “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” but not as a policymaker.

He goes on to reference Candace Owens: “The person who has influenced me above all is Candace Owens”. Owens is an outspoken US pro-Trump activist known for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party.

In a chilling post on a social media forum posted last night, the ring leader — believed to be an Australian — stated: “I will carry out and attack against the invaders and even live stream the attack via Facebook.”

His display profile photo on the extremist forum (8 Chan? or 4 Chan?) featured a cartoon man wearing a wide-brimmed Dundee-style hat, clutching a VB beer captioned, “hold still while I glass you.”

In his post before the attack, the man posted: “If I don’t survive the attack, goodbye, godbless, and see you all in Valhalla!”

In Norse mythology, Valhalla is a “majestic, enormous hall located in Asgard, ruled over by the god Odin”.

Link: https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/gunman-opens-fire-in-christchurch-mosque/news-story/6f6ce5dc9db6cde5edf5ae778b6da368

[Cardillac]

@Brightstar

I think you're spot on with the date; the most negative things occur on specific satanic calendar dates;

history has proven it over and over again-

be well all-

Larry

[AutumnW]

Not surprised. The perp probably went to the University of Yotube and Breibart.

[Gaia]

What a nightmare. Thoughts and prayers to the survivors and families of the victims. Sad day.

[AutumnW]

The main lesson here is, it's an atrocity if a Muslim individual is killed after they immigrate.

But an American soldier, using drones, can do the same thing to a funeral or wedding party in an Arab country and we won't usually even know about it.

Or, the U.S (and Canada) can supply Saudi Arabia with arms to slaughter Yemenis by the hundreds of thousands and that's accepted.

So, if you are a Muslim, morality morphs based on geography.

[Clarity]

Might not be relevant but John Podesta was in New Zealand last week.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well.... One minute Brexit is all over the news... May struggling to keep the party together.... Now all we have is this on the news. May diverting all her attention to NZ.. Rather convinient hey. Just saying.

Viking

[witchy1]

Terribly sad days for Kiwis. It is difficult to even begin to understand what drives these actions - let alone way down in the antipodes. I mean why here?

What s known is that he was a white Supremisist. Initial reports state he was very well prepared (over 2 years in preparation) and really well financed given his cache of weapons.

Now I know reports at the time of such actions can get confused and mis-reported - however i just wanted to record these 2 things somewhere.....

Remember the 2 mosques were just 10 mins apart
It was reported that a perpetrator was shot dead by someone in the smaller mosque. If this is true it means at least someone at the mosque was armed (prepared)and perhaps expecting something and

A lady on the news said that they knew of the plans as she had read them on facebook. This means they were advised.

Neither of these comments have been repeated - so it could have been a misreporting (or the gag orders) I did note that at question time with the police commissioner - he was asked about the face book notice and they were investigating it. (so they know) I have to say the lady was very matter-of-fact. It aired on TV1

What on earth was Podesta doing here Clarity??

If I hear of anything report worthy I will post it.... and If I can track links will let you know. NZ is a small place - Its so nice to have somewhere safe to post :-)

Karen

[witchy1]

Tarrant, 28, who has been living in Dunedin, currently faces only one murder charge, but police say more charges are likely. 49 people have died.... was there another person???? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111329984/christchurch-shootings-terrorist-attack-new-zealand-livestream-christ-church-mosque-muslims-christ-church-brenton-tarrant-nz-live-updates

[BMJ]

And so it continues drawing comparison to the Port Arthur massacre and implying more restrictive gun controls are necessary.

New Zealand’s Gun Laws Draw Scrutiny After Mosque Shootings

The shootings that killed at least 49 people at two mosques in New Zealand on Friday have placed new scrutiny on New Zealand’s gun laws and sparked a fervent debate about whether they were a factor in the gunman’s decision to carry out his attack there.

The man was identified in court papers as Brenton Harrison Tarrant, 28, and officials have said he was an Australian citizen, which has led to comparisons between gun laws in Australia and in New Zealand.

While New Zealand’s laws governing the purchase of semiautomatic rifles are more restrictive than those in the United States, the country is much freer with firearms than Australia is, allowing most guns to be purchased without requiring them to be tracked.

“New Zealand is almost alone with the United States in not registering 96 percent of its firearms — and those are its most common firearms, the ones most used in crimes,” said Philip Alpers of GunPolicy.org, a clearinghouse for gun law data worldwide. “There are huge gaps in New Zealand law, even if some of its laws are strong.”

New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, said on Saturday that five firearms, including two semiautomatic weapons, were used in the attacks.

“If he went to New Zealand to commit these crimes,” Mr. Alpers said, “one can assume that the ease of obtaining these firearms may have been a factor in his decision to commit the crime in Christchurch.”

In the years since a gunman killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania, in 1996, Australia has embarked on one of the world’s most expansive efforts to rid a society of gun violence. Officials significantly strengthened gun laws, severely restricted semiautomatic weapons and engaged in a buyback program that took more than 650,000 firearms off the streets.

The gun laws in New Zealand are more layered, and do not fit easily into a pro or anti-gun rubric.

Semiautomatic rifles and handguns, for example, require special licenses; a person can only buy one semiautomatic weapon at a time. “The police will look very askance at you if you want four or five of them,” Mr. Alpers said. “It gets harder and harder if you want more and more.” Still, Mr. Alpers said, it is possible to obtain a large cache of weapons — either by acting alone or if more than one person is purchasing.

As the law stands now, any person age 16 or older with an entry-level firearm license can keep any number of common rifles and shotguns without an official record of those guns being kept.

Most of the guns in circulation can be sold on the internet or through ads in newspapers, and the most popular types of firearms can lawfully change hands in private homes or even hotel parking lots with no requirement that a record of the transaction be kept.

Still, the country has generally been safe from gun massacres. Its last mass shooting, which left 13 people dead, was in 1990 — and it led to tighter rules around semiautomatic weapons.

Police officers do not generally carry firearms and murders are rare; the death toll from Friday’s terrorist attack is roughly equivalent to the number of murders that occur in the country each year. The annual tally of gun homicides specifically is even lower.

“New Zealanders are by and large safe users of firearms and that has led everybody to relax,” Mr. Alpers said. “It’s led New Zealanders to think they don’t have a problem.”

[The gunman appeared to be steeped in the culture of the extreme-right internet.]

At the same time, however, New Zealand’s gun culture is significant and deeply ingrained. Like the United States, Australia and Canada, New Zealand’s frontier history has led to a proliferation of guns used for sport, for protecting wide open spaces from animals, and for dealing with problems like wounded cattle.

Of the 3.9 million New Zealanders of gun licensing age, 238,000 — 6 percent — have a firearm license, according to GunPolicy.org.

“Our gun laws will change, now is the time,” Ms. Ardern said Saturday, though she did not say what that legislation would look like. “People will be seeking change, and I am committed to that.”

Mr. Alpers predicted that lawmakers would work to make guns harder to obtain.

“This will certainly change things in New Zealand,” he said. “I can’t think of a country that’s more likely to change its gun laws after something like this.”

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/world/asia/new-zealand-gun-laws.html

[Innocent Warrior]

This is even more fishy.

This journalistic piece reads like a tptw wishlist of "to be censored public personalities in Australia and New Zealand."

Is this journalistic trying to provoke a emotional reaction against white people in Australia and New Zealand with all the white supremacist talk?

They’re giving Tarrant his desired effect (his target is not just NZ and Aus but all European nations). His manifesto, titled “The Great Replacement: Towards A New Society We March Ever Forwards” (title referring to his views on white genocide and response) begins with an introduction and then goes into a Q&A section where he answered questions he anticipated would be asked. From the Q&A section, parts of the answer to the question of why he carried out the attack -


To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the invaders currently occupying European soil.


To agitate the political enemies of my people into action, to over extend their own hand and experience the eventual backlash.


To create an atmosphere of fear and change in which drastic,powerful and revolutionary action can occur.


To add momentum to the pendulum swings of history, further destabilizing and polarizing Western society in order to eventually destroy the current nihilistic, hedonistic, individualistic insanity that has taken control of Western thought!


Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states.This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
This balkanization of the US will not only result in the racial separation of the people within the United States ensuring the future of the White race on the North American continent, but also ensuring the death of the “melting pot” pipe dream.

From the article you posted -


He was a member of anti-immigration, far-right groups and claimed to be a member of a new order of Christian Knight Templars.

He didn’t write that, here’s what he wrote -


Are you a part of any political groups or movements?

I am not a direct member of any organization or group, though I have donated to many nationalist groups and have interacted with many more.

Also -


Did the groups you support/are aligned with order or promote your attack?

No. No group ordered my attack, I make the decision myself. Though I did contact the reborn Knights Templar for a blessing in support of the attack, which was given.

And -


Did/do you have ties to any other partisans/freedom fighters/ethno
soldiers?

I support many of those that take a stand against ethnic and cultural genocide.Luca Traini, Anders Breivik, Dylan Roof, Anton Lundin Pettersson, Darren Osbourne etc. But I have only had brief contact with Knight Justiciar Breivik, receiving a blessing for my mission after contacting his brother knights.

Were your beliefs influenced by any other attackers?
I have read the writings of Dylan Roof and many others, but only really took true inspiration from Knight Justiciar Breivik.

(Justiciar means administrator of justice.)

For the record, here’s what he wrote about Trump -


Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?

As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

And Candace Owens -


Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?

Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

And Owens took the bait when the predictable reaction happened, see her Twitter account (https://mobile.twitter.com/RealCandaceO) for her reaction.

From Zero Hedge: Facebook, YouTube, Twitter And Scribd Scramble To Scrub NZ Shooting Evidence (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-15/facebook-youtube-and-scribd-scramble-scrub-new-zealand-shooters-livestreamed-video)

Responsible, and so convenient.

[BMJ]

In New Zealand, Signs Point to a Gunman Steeped in Internet Trolling

A camera mounted to his head, the gunman who livestreamed part of his savage attack on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, on Friday began his video by casually making reference to a current internet meme.

He appeared to be steeped in the culture of the extreme-right internet. And in the terrible minutes of video that followed, he proved to be a nonchalant, unrepentant killer.

As of Friday night, the gunman had not been identified by the authorities. But just before the attack began, a man who said he was a 28-year-old from Australia published a link on a right-wing forum to an 87-page manifesto, and another link on the same forum to a personal Facebook page with the video that would soon document the slaughter.

Based on the video, the manifesto and social media posts, a picture has begun to emerge of a man primarily driven by white nationalism and a desire to drive cultural, political and racial wedges between people across the globe. That, he hoped, would stoke discord and, eventually, more violence between races. (Confirmed by Rachel in the above post)

Link: https://momogunnews.com/in-new-zealand-signs-point-to-a-gunman-steeped-in-internet-trolling/

[BMJ]

Interesting theory could this be a false flag?

Limbaugh Floats "False Flag" Theory NZ Shooter Is "Leftist" Who Staged Attack To Frame Conservatives

Following Thursday's deadly terror attacks on two New Zealand mosques, which left 49 people dead, radio host Rush Limbaugh mentioned an "ongoing theory" that the shooter - identified by Australian media as 28-year-old Brenton Tarrant, is actually a "leftist who writes the manifesto and then goes out and performs the deed purposely to smear his political enemies."

"You just can't -- you can't immediately discount this," Limbaugh added. "The left is this insane, they are this crazy."

Link: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-15/false-flag-limbaugh-floats-theory-nz-shooter-leftist-who-staged-attack-frame

[enfoldedblue]

This is just so sad. The gun man is from the town next to where i live. What strikes me as odd about this is yesterday when reading some local news articles i read that 2 years ago the gunman had travelled to Pakistan and posted on social media about how honored he was to be among such good people there. There was a direct quote that really demonstrated his respect, but i can no longer find anything specific.

It seems strange that someone, in such a short period could go from a respectful world traveller to a full on white supremacist so quickly. What happened to change his views so radically?

[Innocent Warrior]

Signs of a planned event, from a lot ‘higher’ than the left, IMO.

https://i.postimg.cc/L4Ydmwjw/1-D6-A0-F92-3-C53-4-C49-A7-F3-ED4457-CC23-BB.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The cover page of the manifesto.
https://i.postimg.cc/gJ1Twc35/6-EEFDFB4-3-E0-A-4-BBB-AF76-095-B48-AE0-F67.png (https://postimg.cc/S27r3hT7)

Last page of manifesto.
https://i.postimg.cc/YSGNv68r/C2-CF2-FA9-0514-400-C-9-B09-230-F49346507.png (https://postimg.cc/R3mJ8njy)

The Black Sun, adopted by Neo-Nazis, but dig a little deeper into that occult symbol.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol-58-no-3/operation-paperclip-the-secret-intelligence-program-to-bring-nazi-scientists-to-america.html

Tarrant in court.
https://i.postimg.cc/d3vGNzF3/4-D5-EBC19-C66-C-45-D3-B9-A9-8-EA472522-B99.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Innocent Warrior]

I don’t know how to save this clip and it might go missing, posting it here for you guys to watch in case it does. They arrested four people, released one, one was Tarrant and one of the others has been charged with “intent to excite hostility or ill-will.”. No further details are being given at this time on the one who was charged with intent to excite and there has been no details released on the third one still in custody.

According to the Twitter thread linked below, police were reporting three active shooters early on. The clip shows two armed men, neither look like Tarrant (he was alone during 7 mins of livestream and not wearing a cap) and neither look like cops. Could be nothing (they might report the other two as armed) but it’s odd, here’s the thread beginning with the clip: https://mobile.twitter.com/williamcraddick/status/1106389907952406528

BTW, the three sixes hand sign Tarrant did in court is being reported as a white power sign...


Stills from clip.

https://i.postimg.cc/QCytBdDR/7-E4463-D2-9-FCF-42-C0-8-EA8-2-E59-D9-F7-A9-B8.png (https://postimg.cc/Pv1h9hP4)

https://i.postimg.cc/t40q8f4t/33-E213-EF-9-FD6-4-D43-8-E7-C-5-C0-A1055-E853.png (https://postimg.cc/563WCsv6)

Hard to see with stills but arrows are pointing to their rifles. Note their clothes and bags, not cops.

https://i.postimg.cc/BZk41yH9/9-A17259-C-E36-B-4-F99-9542-93-D98-DF52166.jpg (https://postimg.cc/PNWBgSS2)

https://i.postimg.cc/5tKNKtYj/8-E0-D087-A-6-DFE-4760-8643-CE56-BEC474-A1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/McRSvqY8)

[Clarity]

Terribly sad days for Kiwis. It is difficult to even begin to understand what drives these actions - let alone way down in the antipodes. I mean why here?

What s known is that he was a white Supremisist. Initial reports state he was very well prepared (over 2 years in preparation) and really well financed given his cache of weapons.

Now I know reports at the time of such actions can get confused and mis-reported - however i just wanted to record these 2 things somewhere.....

Remember the 2 mosques were just 10 mins apart
It was reported that a perpetrator was shot dead by someone in the smaller mosque. If this is true it means at least someone at the mosque was armed (prepared)and perhaps expecting something and

A lady on the news said that they knew of the plans as she had read them on facebook. This means they were advised.

Neither of these comments have been repeated - so it could have been a misreporting (or the gag orders) I did note that at question time with the police commissioner - he was asked about the face book notice and they were investigating it. (so they know) I have to say the lady was very matter-of-fact. It aired on TV1

What on earth was Podesta doing here Clarity??

If I hear of anything report worthy I will post it.... and If I can track links will let you know. NZ is a small place - Its so nice to have somewhere safe to post :-)

Karen


I also thought it as if someone at the mosque had heard there might be an attack, if so how sad. Many people in NZ have guns but its really for hunting or farming, no one would carry a gun for their day to day chores.

[Builder]

This very disturbing German article lays out how Neonazis in Germany's and Austria's army, police and special forces are preparing kill lists for day X, and how the NZ assassin is connected to them:

https://derstandard.at/2000099600939/Spuren-nach-Oesterreich-bei-rechtem-Netzwerk-deutscher-Soldaten

Automated translation by Google:

In chats, right-wing extremists are preparing for "Day X". The traces lead to Vienna, the assassins of Christchurch linked to articles on right-wing extremists in the Bundeswehr On February 3, 2017 takes one of the most bizarre criminal cases of recent years its course. Franco A., a soldier of the German Bundeswehr, is arrested at Vienna airport when he wants to get a loaded weapon from a hiding place in the disabled toilet. When the suspect is checked, the officials discover that he was registered as a Syrian refugee in Germany with a second identity. In a house search they find death lists and obviously preparations for a terrorist attack, the German A. supposedly wanted to perform as a Syrian refugee. What nobody suspected back then: Franco A. is just one part of a right-wing extremist network of active and former soldiers and policemen exchanging views on Day X in chat groups - the day the state order collapses. If you follow their footsteps, you end up at an association for former elite soldiers, at the German constitutional protection, a curious order of knights in Austria - and at the local Ministry of Defense, as shown by research by STANDARD, Taz and Schweizer WOZ. At the center of the network is a former German elite soldier named André S., better known as "Hannibal". Together with a constitutional protector, he founded the association Uniter, which offers security services and is globally networked. In addition, he was the administrator of secret chat groups, where soldiers, police and security staff talked about "safe houses", threat scenarios and escape routes. Such a chat group also existed for Austria, as testimonies of German investigators reveal. Some members of the chat groups stole weapons and ammunition from the inventory of the Bundeswehr and put on a folder with enemy lists of politicians and people from the left scene. On Day X, these people were then to be rammed together, smuggled past roadblocks and eliminated, a witness said to the German investigators. The right-wing extremists in the German Bundeswehr knew about the assassins of New Zealand, who murdered 49 people in two mosques on Friday. A suspected terrorist who wrote the notorious manifesto, linked on Wednesday to two articles of the German broadcaster "Deutsche Welle", in which in 2017 about by Franco A. and other right-wing extremists was reported. At that time, although it was known that the German Bundeswehr has a big problem with right-wing extremism in its own ranks - that Franco A. and others exchanged on secret chat groups, but was later revealed. It is still unclear whether the New Zealand suspected assassins have also perceived this information. In any case, in his manifesto, the alleged terrorist writes that there are hundreds of thousands of nationalist soldiers in Europe's army. From Viennese balls and pistols Back to Franco A .: In February 2017, the soldier traveled to Vienna for the second time within a few days. A few days before his arrest, he and his friends had visited the officers' ball. In his interrogation he states that he found a pistol during a tour of Vienna in a bush. He slept with the pistol with his friend Maurice R., who lives in the seventh district. After his overnight stay Franco A. allegedly discovered before the security check at Vienna airport that he had still inserted the weapon. He panicked and hid her on the disabled toilet, then left. On February 3, the day of the Akademikerballs, A. returned to Vienna. The pistol had been found in the meantime by a cleaning lady, the police had installed a video trap. When A. wants to take back the pistol, he is arrested. The affair takes its course, investigators discover a widespread network in the German-speaking area, which also leads to Vienna. At least a dozen people are active in the chat groups, and detailed information is not public. When questioned about the case, German investigators repeatedly ask whether witnesses know Franco A.'s Viennese host Maurice R. The Austrian authorities carry out a search warrant in Vienna at the request of their German counterparts. R. is well connected in Vienna: the former German Bundeswehr soldier studies psychology, and he goes around in fraternity circles. Its environment also includes two employees of the Austrian Ministry of Defense. He is also known with the Gudenus family. A photo, which is the STANDARD shows Maurice R. and Clemens Gudenus, brother of FPÖ club boss Johann Gudenus and currently FPÖ district politician in Vienna-Wieden, sitting together on a couch. Clemens Gudenus tells the STANDARD that Maurice R. is "just one of 2800 Facebook friends". He did not know Franco A. Parallel to the house search in Vienna, the members of the secret chat groups try to clear their tracks. When André S., Hannibal, learns that the media report the allegations against Franco A., a member of the South chat group, he gives the order to delete all chats. That says S. to German investigators. He wanted to prevent so that officials, soldiers and judges in the chat groups carry professional damage. Who is this ominous "Hannibal"? André S. has long been an "informant" of the Military Shielding Service in Germany (MAD). The MAD is the German equivalent of the Army Defense Office, which is exactly the institution that should take care of anti-constitutional tendencies within the military. Before the district court Cologne begins on Wednesday a process against Hannibals contact man with the MAD. He is accused of having warned "Hannibal" of upcoming raids. "Rescue Camps Abroad" This is not the only connection that shows that "Hannibal's Shadow Network" seems to be linked to the very authorities that were supposed to be trying to clear up its activities. The taz has this week uncovered that an official of the Baden-Württemberg State Office for Constitutional Protection founding member of the Association was Uniter. Also "Hannibal" was until last week vice chairman of the association, according to research of the NZZ, he is still in the presidency. The association Uniter should help former elite soldiers to find their way back to "real life". The association, founded in 2012, networks them with police officers and other persons from the "security industry". Externally, he promotes charitable activities, but at the same time he builds up a department "Defense". Officially, Uniter denies having anything to do with the prepper scene; So with those people who are preparing militarily or organizationally for a horror scenario. But in a newsletter to its members four years ago Uniter already spoke of "Auffangcamps abroad" and other means to prepare themselves. As the Taz reports this weekend, Uniter is trying to gain a foothold worldwide as a service provider in the security industry. Club members offer training for security forces as well as for civilians - such as in the Philippines, where forces of authoritarian President Rodrigo Duterte have been instructed by Uniter. Knighted in Austria Who follows the association Uniter, lands soon in Austria. Uniter was as a whole club member of a pseudo knightly order called Lazarus Union, which has its seat on the castle Kreuzenstein near Vienna. Hannibal, André S., was also knighted himself. A video shows how he took part in an investiture in the Theresian Military Academy Wiener Neustadt last year in the presence of Lower Austria's Governor Erwin Pröll (ÖVP) and former Defense Minister Werner Fasslabend (ÖVP). In this ceremony the gentlemen had to swear by their honor on the guiding principles of the Lazarus Union and assure them of their corps spirit. André S. is, according to the club register vice-president of the Lazarus Union. The Lazarus Union acts as a charitable organization and has special advisory status with the United Nations. The Swiss branch of Uniter emphasizes in a press release to be internationally active in the context of UN mandates, and refers to the Swiss WOZ on the Lazarus Union. The President of the Lazarus Union, Wolfgang Steinhardt, emphasizes to the STANDARD that his organization has no UN mandates and denies any activities by or with Unites. "Until the allegations are exhausted," Steinhardt put the group membership of Uniter and Hannibal's function as Vice President two weeks ago dormant. But what moves an association that, according to its statutes, is committed to veterans from special units and builds clandestine paramilitary structures at home and abroad to become a prominent member of an Austrian knightly order? Uniter gives no answer to this request on the STANDARD. Even for joint projects they wanted to "for the mutual protection of members" make no statements. appeared on the arms fair Enforcetek in Nuremberg with a name tag - at the booth of an Austrian company, the High Profile Protection GmbH from Carinthia. The linked under the name "Tacticalbros" on Facebook again and again to Uniter. Company manager Klaus Anton Stöckl denies the request of the STANDARD to get involved with Uniter. André S., "Hannibal", was offered a "platform" at the stand at the fair to promote a coffee called Black Ops Coffee. This coffee, which "should taste very good", you have even in use. There are no connections to Uniter, whose members are merely potential customers. Tacticalbros offers besides different weapons also "trainings". For about a week in Slovakia "absolutely best training for snipers and spotters" with instructors who are according to description veterans of the special forces and NATO. About Uniter even events have been organized in Austria. However, the association does not want to do anything about partners "for reasons of data protection". The club keeps posting photos from Austria, for example about the departure of a Eurofighter. Uniter is currently led by the German Attorney General as an observation process. The protection of the constitution in the German state of Baden-Württemberg, where Uniter is based, precluded an observation for the time being. The German Greens and the Left Party now fear that the authorities again wanted to cover up a right-wing network, such as the terrorist group NSU. Austria's authorities are also covered. The Ministry of Defense says only that "all developments within and outside Austria are observed, which could affect the security of the Armed Forces". The Ministry of the Interior states that one does not take a stand on "ongoing proceedings". The shadow network and its members remain hidden in this country. It is not known, for example, whether the local authorities have received the minutes of the secret chat group for Austria or know who their members were. It is only known that the German members want to flee to the south on day X - in the direction of the Alps.

[Arcturian108]

This event has many of the earmarks of a false flag, except that the perpetrator is still alive. The fact that the New Zealand Prime Minister is ready to tighten gun laws clearly demonstrates to me that this was a planned event, probably by the powers that be to rid another country of guns owned by its citizens. In Australia, when the Port Arthur Massacre occurred in Tasmania, a low IQ patsy was chosen - Martin Bryant - and he was locked away without a trial by jury, and forced to confess after six months of solitary confinement. He remains in jail at this time, a real perversion of justice. In Australia at that time the law to change gun rights had already been written, and the photos of Martin Bryant in the press were all photo-shopped to make him look like a monster.

[greybeard]

Mosque attack hero 'saved many more lives by grabbing terrorist's gun'
Yahoo News UK Yahoo News UK 1 hour 37 minutes ago

New Zealand is still reeling from the worst mass shooting in its history

A story of true heroism is emerging from the horrific terror attacks on innocent Muslims in New Zealand.

A gunman opened fire on worshippers in two mosques in Christchurch, killing 49 people.

The atrocities took place in Masjid Al Noor mosque, where at least 41 people were killed and another seven were shot dead inside the suburban Linwood Masjid Mosque. One person died in hospital.

However, witnesses have described how many more lives could have been lost, if not for the courage of a worker at Linwood Mosque.

A young mosque worker risked his own life to challenge the gunman and try to snatch his weapon, according to attack survivor Syed Mazharuddin.

He said up to 70 people were praying inside Linwood when gunshots were heard.

“Just around the entrance door there were elderly people sitting there praying and he just started shooting at them“, Mazharuddin told Sky.

He described seeing a woman shout “help”, before being shot in the face at point blank range.

“At just that moment, there was one young guy who usually takes care of the mosque and helps with parking and other stuff, so (the man) saw an opportunity and he pounced over to him and grabbed his gun.
People gather at a memorial to pay tribute to victims of the mosque attacks outside Masjid Al Noor in Christchurch, New Zealand, March 16, 2019. REUTERS/Jorge Silva

“The hero tried to chase and he couldn’t find the trigger in the gun… he ran behind him but there were people waiting for him in the car and he fled.”

The mosque worker is yet to be named, though a number of onlookers told similar accounts of a young man creeping up behind the shooter and “hold him until his gun dropped”.

A second survivor, Faisal Sayed, said: “If that hadn’t happened, many more would have died and I wouldn’t be here now.”

Following the horrendous massacre, a 28-year-old Australian man, Brenton Tarrant, has been charged with murder.

Tarrant reportedly made a ‘white power’ hand gesture during his court appearance. He has been remanded in custody until April 5 and police have said more charges are likely to follow.

Officers arrested two others following the attacks and are currently working to establish whether they had any involvement in the terror attacks against the Muslim community in New Zealand.

New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said that gun laws will be reformed after the attacks, as legislation allowed the suspect the legally obtain a semi-automatic weapon."

My black hi light.
Chris

[Agape]

This very disturbing German article lays out how Neonazis in Germany's and Austria's army, police and special forces are preparing kill lists for day X, and how the NZ assassin is connected to them:

https://derstandard.at/2000099600939/Spuren-nach-Oesterreich-bei-rechtem-Netzwerk-deutscher-Soldaten


Yes there’s racial war going on and under the surface on this planet, more terrible and more extensive than we have ever estimated.
It’s a phenomenon that needs global readdressing and education( more education for every child and adult on this planet, please ), even then it will take number of generations to overcome.

There’s racial also ethnic also nationalistic awareness and identity so also absence of identity filled often by fear and hatred.
Anyone trying to deny it and being blind to the phenomenon because your friends on alternative media seem to “love everybody the same” are likewise naive, foolish and ignorant.

Of all things if you don’t understand that ethnical and racial hatred have been here as long as human kind had been here on this planet because human species was biologically diverse, that is varied that reads multi racial right from the beginning since similar entities evolved in diverse biotopes and environment but due to their low numbers at start lived scattered and apart from each other for long enough - hundreds of thousands of years in some cases - to evolve isolated sense of racial, tribal - social- ethnical and cultural identity defining them often as the “only ones” on the Planet.

It’s not the CIA or the KGB or Mossad who invented this phenomenon. Don’t be blind and deaf and listen to your friends in the suburbs and how people talk of each other in families.
I don’t dare to make percentual estimate here but despite the “I love all to sound right” manifestos there’s lots and lots of underlying hatred called racism among u and u and about everyone else.
If there was not we would not need all these hard core and steel borders between Japan and Koreas and China and India and Pakistan and Iran and Afghanistan and Turkey and the EU and the UK and the US and Mexico ( not that I forgot of the rest).

It’s not simple phenomenon because it’s not evolved simple way and it’s in your blood and genes where it evolved and circulated for couple millions of years or one hundred thousand and I can assure you that ALL of these people are very ancient and of noble descent and erm..most do not remember they’ve /we have been here earlier than human divergence and diversity occurred.

The only thing most people remember so acutely is their own blood line and of their tribe/ethnic group/race.

Arabian culture was once the most advanced culture on the planet, so true also for the Chinese and the Egyptians. Don’t forget that most of the Mayans once the most advanced are gone by now and Tibetans are on the leave ..
together with hundreds of Native Indian tribes and who you call aboriginal tribes around the world who are poor remnant of advanced civilisations that lived before the very last or two planetary cataclysm.
After the next planetary cataclysm the most advanced civilisation here too will be gone, together with its achievements and downfalls for they’re frail even if they seem to scream to Stars.

What will remain of your so cherished “white race” than bunch of savages, the best of who had the intuition and information enabling them to survive.
In case of nuclear catastrophy we all will be ashy black for ten thousand years.

If you consider yourself civilised human being of noble descent and integrity please learn and study about the other people who live here and lived here long ago.
With folded hands I beg you, study about others not your plot of island alone 🙏🌟🙏

Only understanding can bridge fear and hatred. Do not propagate weapons instead and blindly agree with ignorant friends who claim they have the recipe for fast solution.

This planet isn’t black and white. It’s multispectral, colourful planet orbiting young B class star that periodically turns everything to dust, anyway.
Don’t try to make it lifeless here please by producing more weapons and propagating them as your solution to life.

Learn the beauty of diversity, embrace the differences. If everyone looked the same this world would be sick and boring, in my opinion.
It would die off long ago for genetic vulnerability.


Sorry for the rant



🙏😢❤️🌈🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊

[BMJ]

Just a thought, considering the last mass shooting in New Zealand was in 1990, that is 29 years ago, it proves that Kiwi have been responsible with their guns for all this time and the current laws are effective.

This terrible event was committed by a foreigner an "Australian" visiting New Zealand" "and not a Kiwi".

Therefore the solution to this is not a matter of revised gun laws but of better screening of visitors to New Zealand.


Astonishingly there is already a wikipedia page covering this event.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings

[Bubu]

This very disturbing German article lays out how Neonazis in Germany's and Austria's army, police and special forces are preparing kill lists for day X, and how the NZ assassin is connected to them:

https://derstandard.at/2000099600939/Spuren-nach-Oesterreich-bei-rechtem-Netzwerk-deutscher-Soldaten


Yes there’s racial war going on and under the surface on this planet, more terrible and more extensive than we have ever estimated.
It’s a phenomenon that needs global readdressing and education( more education for every child and adult on this planet, please ), even then it will take number of generations to overcome.

There’s racial also ethnic also nationalistic awareness and identity so also absence of identity filled often by fear and hatred.
Anyone trying to deny it and being blind to the phenomenon because your friends on alternative media seem to “love everybody the same” are likewise naive, foolish and ignorant.

Of all things if you don’t understand that ethnical and racial hatred have been here as long as human kind had been here on this planet because human species was biologically diverse, that is varied that reads multi racial right from the beginning since similar entities evolved in diverse biotopes and environment but due to their low numbers at start lived scattered and apart from each other for long enough - hundreds of thousands of years in some cases - to evolve isolated sense of racial, tribal - social- ethnical and cultural identity defining them often as the “only ones” on the Planet.

It’s not the CIA or the KGB or Mossad who invented this phenomenon. Don’t be blind and deaf and listen to your friends in the suburbs and how people talk of each other in families.
I don’t dare to make percentual estimate here but despite the “I love all to sound right” manifestos there’s lots and lots of underlying hatred called racism among u and u and about everyone else.
If there was not we would not need all these hard core and steel borders between Japan and Koreas and China and India and Pakistan and Iran and Afghanistan and Turkey and the EU and the UK and the US and Mexico ( not that I forgot of the rest).

It’s not simple phenomenon because it’s not evolved simple way and it’s in your blood and genes where it evolved and circulated for couple millions of years or one hundred thousand and I can assure you that ALL of these people are very ancient and of noble descent and erm..most do not remember they’ve /we have been here earlier than human divergence and diversity occurred.

The only thing most people remember so acutely is their own blood line and of their tribe/ethnic group/race.

Arabian culture was once the most advanced culture on the planet, so true also for the Chinese and the Egyptians. Don’t forget that most of the Mayans once the most advanced are gone by now and Tibetans are on the leave ..
together with hundreds of Native Indian tribes and who you call aboriginal tribes around the world who are poor remnant of advanced civilisations that lived before the very last or two planetary cataclysm.
After the next planetary cataclysm the most advanced civilisation here too will be gone, together with its achievements and downfalls for they’re frail even if they seem to scream to Stars.

What will remain of your so cherished “white race” than bunch of savages, the best of who had the intuition and information enabling them to survive.
In case of nuclear catastrophy we all will be ashy black for ten thousand years.

If you consider yourself civilised human being of noble descent and integrity please learn and study about the other people who live here and lived here long ago.
With folded hands I beg you, study about others not your plot of island alone 🙏🌟🙏

Only understanding can bridge fear and hatred. Do not propagate weapons instead and blindly agree with ignorant friends who claim they have the recipe for fast solution.

This planet isn’t black and white. It’s multispectral, colourful planet orbiting young B class star that periodically turns everything to dust, anyway.
Don’t try to make it lifeless here please by producing more weapons and propagating them as your solution to life.

Learn the beauty of diversity, embrace the differences. If everyone looked the same this world would be sick and boring, in my opinion.
It would die off long ago for genetic vulnerability.


Sorry for the rant



🙏😢❤️🌈🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊

Beautifully crafted and yet you seemed to have miss the whole point. If you revisit old threads you'll see that many people including me do not have racial hatred which you seem to imply as natural to all people. Yes the mossad and cia did not invent it they simply add loads of fuel to it trying very hard to make it appear to be the norms. If you consider a family as an example of relationship and is the smallest of "so above is below" then you'll have a picture of loving people around the globe. Racial hatred is invented and promoted by those who have a dubious agenda its a pity you subscribe to it.

[Agape]

In response to Bubu and the rest of “who are you talking for”: NO, I most certainly do not subscribe to any sort of racial discrimination and even hatred.
Thousand times no Bubu.
I’ve lived happily among many different people and ethnics than where the “crane dropped me” originally, happily means with pride of entity free of any such predicaments and treated as equal BUT I do know well how racial discrimination feels, as first, second, third etc hand experiencer as well.
It’s hurtful, disgusting and humiliating.

Please either reread my post with level of empathy and thoughtfulness or do not read but saying that my post is somehow “crafted” tells yourself off: perhaps you’re spending your most valuable days and nights in the virtual world of internet alone where you can pick and choose your content and perhaps - I suggest- you’ve missed the whole context of my post.

I speak of real people we are meeting on all walks of life, I speak of real physical borders and reality of our human life here.

Saying it’s somehow crafted hurts me and my conscience but believe me: I’m not my best judge and if my post can be read so badly I’d better remove it than argue.

There’s no attack present anywhere in my post on anyone or any kind of people or community.

There’s my passion and call for Unity of all Beings and stopping bloodsheds.

Debating conspiracy theory you can endlessly and especially, on the web.

In real time and if you travel to many different countries you get the taste rather, of how nationalistic and other prejudice feel like to an individual .

As I said, if this thread is meant to remain low vibe and conspiracy chit chat then sorry my post is too deep to be understood and better deleted. But nowhere you have the right to call my reality observation crafted.


With thanks for the Minder


🙏



P.S.: I’m trying to tune myself down, on that matter but I don’t know if that’s right either.
I will explain if you wish. Most recently I’ve travelled around the globe because I had to, for about two years. This site supports free speech so allow me to be honest about my observations, please.
The most free I ever felt was in the US and in Americas, generally. It took many generations of people there to overcome racial discrimination there and they still do have problems with it but at least, I mean, they do give each other equal rights and treatment, usually.
I spent 3 months recently in Finland and I totally love the people and pure environment. But almost every second day I’ve heard from the very educated person having me about how much “migration problem” costs them and how different all these colorful people are and how they should go home.
The only reason I was told those things privately anyway is my dam pale face.

I’ve left there with the same awareness and if all those colorful people aren’t welcome unless they can bleach and speak another language without mistake I’d feel forever in odds.

It’s the same for me even in so called country of my origin, hearing that they only want to live with the same people who they are. No, deeply no, I do not hate anybody and never did.

It’s dirty prejudice taught wrongly by even many esoteric groups and generally, human adults worldwide and there are few erroneous theories running about it if you ever encounter them. But they’re for real and do undermine mindsets of many human societies.

I lived in India and in Tibetan monastery for two decades on and off and consider India my home, really because I have experienced the most love and knowing from people there.
At the same time and if any of the nationalism and racism grows over people’s heads the discrimination towards anyone of other ethnicity is painful debt to the fact of being also human.

What I’m saying is love your neighbors. As children do for it is pain free and most natural. Do not judge people for being sun tanned or pale, their eye color and shape of their nose.
It’s all I’m saying and will repeat it to every individual as many times as necessary if necessary. I’m not suspecting anyone here of wrongdoing(?).

[Hervé]

Brendon O'Connell: Mosque Shooter Was Professionally Trained (https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/03/brendon-oconnell-false-flag.html)

by Brendon O'Connell
March 16, 2019

Brenton Terrant was no amateur gun nut. He displayed complete cold detachment when murdering 39 human beings in the first Mosque. No fear, no heavy breathing, no excitement. Just cool and calm. When driving to the second location he calmly states that if he had got to the Mosque a bit later he would have gotten more women.

Regardless, on viewing his self-made horror movie, the most glaring "fact" is the "fact" he is no amateur.



https://vimeo.com/324497021


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by Brendon O'Connell
(henrymakow.com)

The guy was clearly trained. No if's, no buts. He was cool as a cucumber. He has done this before. The way he would reload - step back in the narrow hallway so there was less chance of being jumped as he reloaded.

He is totally confident.

The video is very disturbing, especially the young Muslim woman on the ground in front of the Mosque whimpering "Help me! Help me!" He blew the top of her head off.

You do not handle an AR15, military-style semi-automatic assault rifle like that unless you have trained to clear jams and misfires in the efficient manner he displays. He darts back into cover, out of the expansive prayer hall into a narrow hallway to change magazines - this is not something you do naturally. This is military training. House clearing - to make it harder to be attacked while changing magazines.

It is impossible to obtain an AR15 style assault rifle in Australia. Even a well connected organised crime figure would have trouble and you would immediately risk being on the "police radar" if you tried. So where did he train in their operation, tactics and handling? He was not long in New Zealand. He cannot buy firearms in New Zealand as an Australian citizen. Who brought them for him? Who supplied them? It is legal to own the AR15 he used and semi-automatic shotguns with the appropriate hunting licenses. Some claim his AR15 magazines were illegal 30 round.

In the dock, he looks 5ft 4inches. Muscular. He looks special forces - small and powerful. How they like them. Traveled extensively. Especially in Europe. Claimed he was a simple working class lad - made his money investing in crypto, ie: he's a drug dealer. Absolutely he is. I knew a guy who worked security in Palestine when Arafat had casinos. He had no military training. He learned on the job. That's where I think that guy has come from. They claim he was in Pakistan, who knows. I just know what I saw in that video.

He espouses a multitude of this-and-that politics claiming communist then anarchist, then libertarian and now he is not sure BUT he mentioned Mao and he draws from Julius Evola and "Sacred Tradition" which was Hitler's favourite book and Steve Bannon's too. Even though drawing from pure National Socialist water wells, the word "Jew" or "Jewish" never leaves his lips.

He was playing Serbian Chetnik folk music at one stage which the Chechens would play as they fought the Croatian fascists.

What a grab bag. I smell Bi Bi Henry. Who benefits? BiBi is about to make his own shooting video in Syria.

Wag The Dog:

"Change the story, change the lead, it's not a new concept."

[BMJ]

"I am not going to post the link because I do not want to promote this act of violence."

The actual footage is on https://www.brighteon.com the footage goes for about 7.19 minutes.

I have watched parts of it and it is horrendous to see Brenton Terrant in action, he is organised, cold and efficient.

Herve post above reaffirms what I had seen.

[graciousb]

Always curious to me that with surveillance such as it is (and 5 eyes and international cooperation in data sharing), able to read the serial number off a coin from space, all calls and emails surveilled, that these things that require so much planning continue to happen. Hmmm..methinks it stinks.

[KiwiElf]

I'm sorry to report that the death toll has now risen to 50. Many still remain in critical condition.

My thoughts & prayers.

[Anchor]

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[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on rmn...
A witness video shows there are at least 2 shooters in the Christchurch attack.

Https://mobile.twitter.com/ViralVideosLOL/status/1106436295017091078?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1106672359208034304&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rumormillnews.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fforum.cgi%3Fread%3D119350

https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1106672359208034304

Viking

[BMJ]

From Sputnik news they have attempted to decipher what was written on the rifle and gear.

A photo which appears to show the gunman's rifle has been circulated on social media. Who Are the People Whose Names New Zealand Mosque Shooter Scrawled on His Gun?

Scrawled on the Rifle

'Here's Your Migration Compact!' refers to the much-criticised non-binding UN agreement that seeks to establish a common global approach to international migration.

John Hunyadi was a Hungarian military leader who ruled the country between 1446 and 1456 and led the national struggle against the Turks.

'14 Words' (the number is repainted in several places on the ammo) is a nod to the 14-word white supremacist slogan derived from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children".

'Tours 732' refers to the Battle of Tours in 732. Frankish military leader Charles Martel pushed back the last Arab invasion of Western Europe.

'Turkofagos' ('Turk-eater' in Greek) was the nickname of Nikitas Stamatelopoulos, one of the main heroes of the Greek War of Independence waged by revolutionaries against the Ottomans between 1821 and 1829.

On the other side of the stock, there's also a marking reading 'Anton Lundin Pettersson' — the attacker who fatally stabbed a teaching assistant and a student and wounded two other people in what police described as a racially charged incident. He later succumbed to the gunshot wounds he received during his apprehension.

'Marco Antonio Bragadin', also written on the other side, refers to a Venetian commander who led the resistance to the Ottoman conquest in 1570 and was eventually killed by the Turks.


Scrawled on the Gear

Josur Estrbanez was a then-22-year-old Spanish neo-Nazi who fatally stabbed 16-year-old anti-fascist protester in 2007. He was sentenced to 26 years in prison two years later.

Milos Obilic was a semi-legendary knight who is said to have killed Ottoman sultan Murad I in the Battle of Kosovo in 1389. He has been venerated as a saint in the Serbian Church.

Sigismund of Luxembourg was a European noble who ruled the Holy Roman Empire in 1433-1437. He led the Crusade of Nicopolis, the last major crusade of the Middle Ages, which failed to liberate Bulgaria from the Ottoman rule in 1396.

Feliks Kazimierz Potocki was a Polish commander, known as one of the country's richest noblemen of his time, who fought with the Ottomans and Tatars in the second half of the 17th century.

Iosif Gurko was a Russian marshal credited with a series of victories in the Russo-Ottoman War of 1877-1878.

'Vienna 1683' refers to the Battle of Vienna which is considered to be a watershed moment in the Holy Roman Empire's centuries-long struggle with the Ottomans. After losing this battle, the Ottoman Empire no longer posed a threat to Christian Europe until its collapse in WW1.

'Acre 1189' is a reference to two the sieges of Acre, an ancient city today located in Israel. The first siege lasted from 1189 until 1191, and saw the king of the crusader-controlled Jerusalem repel Ottoman ruler Saladin.

"For Rotherdam" refers to the child sexual exploitation scandal in the UK, wherein a British-Pakistani gang was convicted of sexually abusing at least 1,400 children between 1997 and 2013.

Alexandre Bissonnette was the gunman who received a life sentence for killing six people at a Quebec mosque in January 2017.

Luca Traini is an Italian neo-Nazi sympathizer who injured six African migrants in a shooting rampage in February 2017 and was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

The Battle of Kagul of 1770 (written in Russian) was the key battle of the Russian-Ottoman War of 1768-1774, which saw Russian troops achieve a decisive victory over overwhelming Turkish forces.

Bajo Pivljanin is a popular figure in Serbian epic poetry. He was a Serb commander who fought against the Ottomans in the second half of the 17th century.

Fruzhin was a Bulgarian prince who headed an uprising against Ottoman rule in the early 15th century.

The Battle of Bulair of 1913 was part of the First Balkan War; it saw Bulgarians defeat an Ottoman infantry division.

Sebastiano Venier was a 16th-century Venetian ruler who headed the city's fleet in the Fourth Ottoman-Venetian War. He is perhaps best known as the admiral at the Battle of Lepanto of 1571, which saw the fleet of the so-called Holy League (an alliance of Christian states) deliver a stunning defeat to the Ottoman Empire off the Greek coast.

Shipka Pass was a strategic path through the Balkan Mountains; joint Russian-Bulgarian forces successfully repulsed a series of attacks by the Ottoman army in 1877-1888, during the war which eventually led to the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire.

Novak Vujošević was the hero of the Battle of Fundina against the Ottoman Empire's forces, who is believed to have killed 28 enemy soldiers.

Link: https://sputniknews.com/asia/201903151073274592-names-and-dates-new-zealand-mosque-shooter-scrawled-on-his-gear/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[thepainterdoug]

AutumnW / have not studied this, have not studied all the responses yet either, but yours struck me. Nothing happens in a vacuum . Everything links to something prior, cause and effect. But we have little patience when it comes to thinking things thru and not just reacting. A highly questionable 9/11 event happened. BUSH went into Iraq, caused over a million deaths, men women children, and countless more in the margins etc. The result had to build lasting hatred from that part of the world . Paul Bremmer dropped off pallets of cash, millions of US Tax payer dollars. We left arms , made deals with our interests in mind. Then Isis arises, the retribution, beheadings, suicide bombers, a caliphate, then more reaction, an exodus, fear of Sharia law coming to the west and so on. Fanatics on all sides dig in their heels. This is one of the tragic consequences . Now Trump will get dragged in, and he will be the new target as its politicized. And on it goes. And however your world view has been designed is how you will cherrypick the causes, the blame and where the retribution should go . just some thoughts.

[Cardillac]

I just can't believe that only one perpetrator was involved in massacring 50 people; typical MSM lies-

there just have to have been several involved and the single person accused of acting alone in your proto-type scenario is a patsy- look at true history- it's always been this way-

Larry

[AutumnW]

AutumnW / have not studied this, have not studied all the responses yet either, but yours struck me. Nothing happens in a vacuum . Everything links to something prior, cause and effect. But we have little patience when it comes to thinking things thru and not just reacting. A highly questionable 9/11 event happened. BUSH went into Iraq, caused over a million deaths, men women children, and countless more in the margins etc. The result had to build lasting hatred from that part of the world . Paul Bremmer dropped off pallets of cash, millions of US Tax payer dollars. We left arms , made deals with our interests in mind. Then Isis arises, the retribution, beheadings, suicide bombers, a caliphate, then more reaction, an exodus, fear of Sharia law coming to the west and so on. Fanatics on all sides dig in their heels. This is one of the tragic consequences . Now Trump will get dragged in, and he will be the new target as its politicized. And on it goes. And however your world view has been designed is how you will cherrypick the causes, the blame and where the retribution should go . just some thoughts.

Thanks Painter.

[AutumnW]

There is a new Netflix release called 'The Alt Right'. Even if you are alt right yourself and feel this documentary is edited to discredit, you can't challenge the videos where some of these dudes make jaw dropping comments that are entirely fascist.

Being exposed or exposing yourself to this crapola and thinking you've taken the red pill and are suddenly 'awake,' is ridiculous. The whole "white genocide," belief would be high irony, worthy of side splitting laughter if it wasn't so dangerous, as was driven home by the incident in Christ Church.

The real story here isn't, "things aren't as they appear," but that things are exactly as they appear.

[Bubu]

"In response to Bubu and the rest of “who are you talking for”: NO, I most certainly do not subscribe to any sort of racial discrimination and even hatred.
Thousand times no Bubu."

I did not say that you did or perhaps its my English construction. Anyway its clear to most of us here that you dont. What I am saying is that you subscribe to the promoted notion that racial hatred is inherent to human and this is very clear on your first post. and that you are an exemption. so my answer is NO, racial hatred is not inherent to the big majority of people with few exemption and that you are not an exemption.

[Flash]

"In response to Bubu and the rest of “who are you talking for”: NO, I most certainly do not subscribe to any sort of racial discrimination and even hatred.
Thousand times no Bubu."

I did not say that you did or perhaps its my English construction. Anyway its clear to most of us here that you dont. What I am saying is that you subscribe to the promoted notion that racial hatred is inherent to human and this is very clear on your first post. and that you are an exemption. so my answer is NO, racial hatred is not inherent to the big majority of people with few exemption and that you are not an exemption.

you are right. If you are raised in a multiracial environment, you do not see any difference, even if racially there are (color of skin, hair, etc.). Racial hatred is not inherent to the majority if raised in an open environment. But it is omnipresent in most environments because of the fear of difference usually or because of culturally/educationally ingrained stereotypes. Like sexism and al the ism.

My daughter was raised in a multicultural, multiracial neighborhood. She had a black friend as a kid. One day she comes back and tells me "i don't know why everyone says Jocelyne is black, she is not black, she is brown". For her it was the same as saying someone has brown or blond hair for example. She had no idea of races, Jocelyne was just her friend, period, with a skin tone different from hers. And now older, she is still without much concept of races when it comes to her friends. In my house, all colors, races, languages, shapes and sexual orientations abound. No differences, they are her friends.

[KiwiElf]

HIDING THE EVIDENCE: New Zealand Gladio-Style Black Op

dOCwYd4ogFY

SGTreport
Published on Mar 17, 2019


Guys, as I was uploading this report, THIS Tweet (video) was brought to my attention, and it's an absolute jaw-dropper. WATCH the spent shells vanish into thin air without ever hitting the ground.
More to come...
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Reference to linked article (full version at link below)

Evidence Indicates Link Between North Korean Embassy Break-In And Christchurch Attacks
March 16, 2019 William Craddick

https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/03/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-in-and-christchurch-attacks/

As the world reels from the tragic terrorist attack against two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, much attention has been given to sensational information about the single named suspect, Brenton Tarrant. However, the hyperfocus on Tarrant distracts from the fact that the Australian national was arrested along with other suspects.

An investigation and analysis by Disobedient Media indicates that Tarrant and the group he worked with likely have professional military connections, are part of the same cell that perpetrated a February 22nd break-in of the North Korean embassy in Spain and potentially have intelligence ties to various agencies that cooperate under the UKUSA Agreement popularly known as Five Eyes (FVEY).

I. Signs Of Professional Military Connections

Despite the characterization of Tarrant in the media, he was no run-of-the-mill white supremacist. Images posted by Tarrant online just before the attack to a Twitter account which had been dormant until March 12 showed that he was in possession of high-capacity magazines and a semi-automatic assault rifle. The weapon and magazines would have been classified as either a “restricted weapon” or a “military-style-semi-automatic” (MSSA) under New Zealand law. A person who possesses or uses a firearm in New Zealand needs to hold a firearms license issued by police. Licenses normally last for ten years unless revoked. Foreign nationals may apply from overseas for a one year license based on their possession of an existing license in their home country.

Suspicions are inevitably raised over how exactly Tarrant and his alleged co-conspirators managed to stockpile the military-grade weapons and ammunition used in the attack in a country with comparatively strict gun laws. Tarrant, who supposedly began to radicalize starting in 2016 and was allegedly unemployed would have had his radical tendencies discovered with a proper background investigation. Police say that another suspect in the shooting was an individual who acquired the necessary Category A license and began to legally stockpile weapons used in the attack.

Additional reports have also established that Tarrant trained at the Bruce Rifle Club in Dunedin. Although the club’s website and YouTube channel have been scrubbed from the internet, an archive shows that it explicitly catered to users and collectors of military rifles.

The Australian also engaged in extensive travel abroad to a number of areas that should have raised red flags with intelligence services. Countries visited by Tarrant included Pakistan, North Korea, Turkey, parts of Africa, Portugal, Spain, France, Afghanistan and Xinjiang, China. The extensive travel and access to military grade firearms should have made detection by law enforcement and intelligence services nearly impossible to avoid.

Full article at link -
https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/03/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-in-and-christchurch-attacks/

[Deux Corbeaux]

-
Although I’m terribly sorry about what happened at the Christchurch mosques in New Zealand, I can’t help wondering why there is so much media silence about Muslim massacre of Christians?

Peolitical leaders and public figures were falling over themselves this weekend to condemn the mosque attacks in New Zealand, meantime dozens of Christians were slaughtered by Muslims in Nigeria (https://www.breitbart.com/africa/2019/03/16/nigerian-muslim-militants-kill-120-christians-three-weeks/).


“POLITICIANS AND MEDIA AGAINST ISLAMOPHOBIA BUT NOT AGAINST CHRISTIANOPHOBIA”
The difference between killing 148 Christians in Kenya and 50 Muslims in New Zealand

http://www.outono.net/elentir/2019/03/17/the-difference-between-killing-148-christians-in-kenya-and-50-muslims-in-new-zealand/

[Agape]

"In response to Bubu and the rest of “who are you talking for”: NO, I most certainly do not subscribe to any sort of racial discrimination and even hatred.
Thousand times no Bubu."

I did not say that you did or perhaps its my English construction. Anyway its clear to most of us here that you dont. What I am saying is that you subscribe to the promoted notion that racial hatred is inherent to human and this is very clear on your first post. and that you are an exemption. so my answer is NO, racial hatred is not inherent to the big majority of people with few exemption and that you are not an exemption.


Your logic is clearly flawed if you don’t understand context of my post in THREAD about massacre in Christchurch that was caused by insanity of someone’s racial prejudice.
how do you dare to put the word “racial hatred” to my mouth or that I subscribe to it while I’m like most of the rest of us in shock
and calling for people to overcome prejudice about their native ethnicity ?


You’re running too close to what they call “ad hominem attack” in person COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTANDING the context and content of my post,

turning it upside down and calling me out for “subscribing to racial hatred”?


That can’t be just overlooked and accepted as absolutely opposed to who I’m , who are we here and to the meaning of my post.

So I’ll diacuss my input and your input with the moderation team because no Bubu you are not free to accuse anyone here of “subscribing to racial hatred”.

My post does not allude to such in any manner.

❤️❤️❤️❤️🌈🌈❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️




Any moderator with free minutes , please review my posts . This is not funny.

[Agape]

Bubu, I’ll try to reach the moderator team to review my original posting and the following debate today. If it’s too “vulnerable” to be misunderstood by non native English speakers it will be removed.
Please stop responding to this or contact your nearest moderator and report this as a problem.

NO, THIS IS BADLY SERIOUS, I /WE AT AVALON/MY POSTINGS DO NOT SUBSCRIBE OR ALLUDE TO RACIAL HATRED.


:heart:


Stop right there AND contact the moderators team immediately.


Thank you, the same for Flash and whoever misunderstood.

[BMJ]

Watch a (Australian) Muslim broadcaster make stark sense of the New Zealand mosque shootings

In less than five minutes, the prominent Australian broadcaster Waleed Aly, a practicing Muslim, connected the New Zealand mosque shootings to a worldwide continuum of hate and violence driven by a global political climate pitting religious and ethnic groups against one another.

On his show, The Project, he said the attacks in Christchurch that killed at least 49 people cannot be addressed in a vacuum.

“Of all the things that I could say tonight—that I am gutted, that I am scared, and that I am filled with utter hopelessness—the most dishonest thing, the most dishonest thing would be to say that I am shocked,” Aly said. “I’m simply not. There’s nothing about what happened in Christchurch today that shocks me.”

Aly went on to list attacks in recent years in places of worship—targeting Muslims in mosques in Quebec City and London, Jews in a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and Christians in a church in Charleston, South Carolina—saying that this kind of violence has come to be expected in a climate of hate that many political leaders build up and manipulate rather than stop.

Aly read off a series of Islamophobic, xenophobic and anti-immigration quotes—for instance: “The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism”—that would fit into the white-supremacist rantings in the attacker’s online screed. Those words were actually written by a far-right Australian member of parliament after the attacks. Aly also reminds the audience that the current prime minister, Scott Morrison, has used anti-Muslim rhetoric as a political strategy to rise to power. (Aly notes Morrison has condemned the mosque shootings and did not hesitate to call the attacks terrorism.)

The broadcaster’s analysis concludes with a heartfelt reminder that anything individuals do to fuel the fire of hate makes them responsible for the tragedy generated: “Everything we say to try to tear people apart, demonize particular groups, set them against each other, that all has consequences, even if we are not the ones with our fingers on the trigger.”

Link: https://qz.com/1574225/watch-waleed-aly-on-the-new-zealand-mosque-shootings/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[Bubu]

Of all things if you don’t understand that ethnical and racial hatred have been here as long as human kind had been here on this planet because human species was biologically diverse, that is varied that reads multi racial right from the beginning since similar entities evolved in diverse biotopes and environment but due to their low numbers at start lived scattered and apart from each other for long enough - hundreds of thousands of years in some cases - to evolve isolated sense of racial, tribal - social- ethnical and cultural identity defining them often as the “only ones” on the Planet.

It’s not the CIA or the KGB or Mossad who invented this phenomenon. Don’t be blind and deaf and listen to your friends in the suburbs and how people talk of each other in families.

I did not say that you subscribe to racial hatred but rather you subscribe to the notion that racial hatred is inherent to humans. Read carefully please. there is no need for heartaches

[KiwiElf]

Watch a (Australian) Muslim broadcaster make stark sense of the New Zealand mosque shootings



Youtube video of the same ;)

WIyBtmi7448

[Agape]

Of all things if you don’t understand that ethnical and racial hatred have been here as long as human kind had been here on this planet because human species was biologically diverse, that is varied that reads multi racial right from the beginning since similar entities evolved in diverse biotopes and environment but due to their low numbers at start lived scattered and apart from each other for long enough - hundreds of thousands of years in some cases - to evolve isolated sense of racial, tribal - social- ethnical and cultural identity defining them often as the “only ones” on the Planet.

It’s not the CIA or the KGB or Mossad who invented this phenomenon. Don’t be blind and deaf and listen to your friends in the suburbs and how people talk of each other in families.

I did not say that you subscribe to racial hatred but rather you subscribe to the notion that racial hatred is inherent to humans. Read carefully please. there is no need for heartaches


No, I do have heartache for this Bubu and asked the moderators team to review my original post and following debate from you and remove it if my post is found “too vulnerable”.

I’ve merely tried to elucidate the fact that today’s “racial prejudice” originated from times where TRIBES and HUMAN CIVILISATIONS lived scattered around the globe, were few in number and saw everyone foreign to their culture as barbarians.
It’s something Humanity needs to get over and grow over but traces of this can be most unfortunately observed through many modern cultures and nations and the way they refer to foreigners of their tribe/nation/race etc.

Pretending this phenomenon does not exist is likewise naive.

There are cosmopolitan countries and cultures today where such phenomenon is almost nonexistent, perhaps, so is this forum, so is the internet in large but not all of it.

I’ve merely observed that the phenomenon still exists in today’s world for ancient “tribal wars” and “ethnic wars” still ongoing which no way means I support any of it.



🙏

[Sandy123]

Agape, I believe racism started with "the tower of Babel" According to the story, a united humanity in the generations following the Great Flood, speaking a single language and migrating eastward, comes to the land of Shinar (שִׁנְעָר). There they agree to build a city and a tower tall enough to reach heaven. God, observing their city and tower, confounds their speech so that they can no longer understand each other, and scatters them around the world.
I think humanity has been interfered with since the beginning by ???? Our leader's, MSM are writing the script and most people aren't aware they are the actors. MSM, politicians are still the underlings doing the bidding of some one/group/entity that really runs the show.

[Sandy123]

Podesta visits NZ five days before attack, what timing. At 3minutes in, The backpack has the same symbols that Podesta has on his palms. Ivb_9rbnMn0

[Agape]

Agape, I believe racism started with "the tower of Babel" According to the story, a united humanity in the generations following the Great Flood, speaking a single language and migrating eastward, comes to the land of Shinar (שִׁנְעָר). There they agree to build a city and a tower tall enough to reach heaven. God, observing their city and tower, confounds their speech so that they can no longer understand each other, and scatters them around the world.
I think humanity has been interfered with since the beginning by ???? Our leader's, MSM are writing the script and most people aren't aware they are the actors. MSM, politicians are still the underlings doing the bidding of some one/group/entity that really runs the show.



Well I’ve seen : seen not heard: that when our human ancestors arrived/crash landed here millions of years ago( that’s before several global floods and cataclysms) they were biologically, ethically and technically advanced entities who all looked more similar to each other- in today’s terms they’d be a “template” of advanced universal humanoid entity or what they describe as Adam Kadmon in Kabbalah esoteric scripture- they were Beings of Light, not Beings of Flesh and communicated telepathically among else- they had no need for verbal language at all.

But since they got stranded here this Planet had shaped each of them differently, they’ve been challenged by crude gravity and magnetic forces of this particular system, Sun frequency and so on, forced to reproduce and rebirth in flesh so they could survive, biologically, as new human race.
But they were few in numbers compared to the state of population as we see it now, they inhabited the planet scatterdly in little groups, travelling, exploring and settling in different environments. These shaped them differently right from the beginning and over long periods of time giving rise to many languages and other ways of communication.

The effort for return to one civilisation and one language was tried couple of times for sure but keeps failing periodically as well, it seems.


🙏

[greybeard]

To my mind its the human ego that brings these events about.
Im the one, me and my--group--religion- race-culture-country.
The ego needs an enemy to strengthen it and belonging to a "group" does this--safety in numbers
Its a separation device, and fear based.

The only way or so I believe, to world peace, is for the individual spending 15 minutes every day, just sitting still and quiet,
call it meditation if you will.
Through regular practise the mind grows peaceful and this affects how you deal with other and like a stone dropped into a pond the ripples spread.

What is really encouraging is the average New Zealand reaction--not revenge, not hate --cant find an adequate word to define it.

Several teachers (Gregg Braden) who have investigated ethnic groups deeply, contend that root races were respectful--cooperative with and considerate to others thousands of years ago.
This hatred and fear of the "different" is possibly a learned thing.
The media normalizes the worst in humans--yet in any disaster the best in human nature comes out.
The raising of human consciousness is the answer and that starts with the me.
Be the change you want to see.

Chris

[Hervé]

Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.wo9.html)'s perspective:


NOT RUMOR:

New Zealand has identified people who saved the Christchurch shooting live stream and is going around arresting them now. Those arrested are detained WITHOUT BAIL.

QUESTION:

Why be so obsessed about this? Why?

I'd like them to answer WHY THEY ARE SO WORKED UP ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING COPIES OF THIS that they are going around arresting people who have it?

IS THERE A "FRAME 313" IN THAT VIDEO?
REPEAT: Why be obsessed about this video SO BADLY you need it cleaned up all tidy and proper so aggressively you're going to arrest anyone who has it and hold them without bail?

Obvious answer: FRAME 313 (http://www.yandex.com/clck/jsredir?bu=84kp&from=www.yandex.com%3Bsearch%2F%3Bweb%3B%3B&text=&etext=2095.lqsJbAB8NJ-52-fBQ5pViMasRLP7g0AeIHyvQyRvEKg.ab32c21c9fa8ef3ea48149668502100053973e5d&uuid=&state=PEtFfuTeVD5kpHnK9lio9fjASLi99Ho0J-ExI57opGF0qqFBd3uq9A,,&&cst=AiuY0DBWFJ5Hyx_fyvalFHmeF5yUXADJDuau-F11TiBSkoa50CEPULqId4zgJ5oq1i7bnmXOFcjqAZl-RXYWk0s77JmTOmUzPh6cTZ6EeEMR6x-VmdrGn12ngADee86kiPQlNZSGnYHWMSORDNSExDGiraTGDeuJLJ9QT5PVMoTR_pZt5YYkz5t5SLZaDTQKwE-uhefIXCQ4k0nNIc7aleY6XR8AOyFq08n_qZcu2GjqoUK93Z0A8r1YY9m5nJMlxgz639PuhbIIGiFe6Q0GYzD5gUbp--8Ov7C51XX43PJOrET7tVaeRQLMmpeQ2Fw6duyhl2biUSMmqSXZCXXX0_0F9aM16LtDPb82fUF_vr6sM5kvgWWLh2BEuGl9wflCVO I-At3AzRsRXkdwMO97Hr5YS4aHzAEjxvKhj1NN66pYDKiJy17ldVC6UjhM8qk9C1WywA2qz5E,&data=UlNrNmk5WktYejR0eWJFYk1Ldmtxc2tjcjhISEd0eThEYlk0OWI5MF9zaU95V1NzVUcweUFReUo2ZU1kMXJxcEJ5RWxHYkN qSWxaM2d1Q2FZQzN2RV9lOUVxaktiMmg1T3pnRi1fd09kS3B2VWllLVN4bkJEdDVoNzRHT1ZSd1VVRUZrSGgxcXl4VnVPMlVkNWd JWHBFcnkwRl9JbTc4UG81SHFRaGlSWk1LVmUxbGM2T0RkNUEsLA,,&sign=951ac32c163f59f888718fafe6fe8461&keyno=0&b64e=2&ref=orjY4mGPRjlSKyJlbRuxUnU39LXnsQVOU9hOXlFVqHKtMG-hplcoM7DbWJmI9bJVKY2CE9xXQJA,&l10n=en&rp=1&cts=1552922148731&mc=1.5219280948873624&hdtime=35193).

GET IT?

It HAS TO reveal something, there's a glaring revelation in it somewhere, and someone wants it buried post haste so badly that if you can reveal something very uncomfortable for the power elite in this video and don't be obedient and destroy it, YOU ARE GONE.

SEE THIS. (https://twitter.com/rnz_news/status/1107472460771778562)

[Bubu]

frame 313 link. "You are trying to follow a link that is outdated or leads to a site that threatens computer security."

[Hervé]

frame 313 link. "You are trying to follow a link that is outdated or leads to a site that threatens computer security."
Works for me via Yandex... you could try with DuckDuckGo and "frame 313"?

[Hervé]

Overreaction? 22-yo New Zealand man arrested for allegedly distributing video of Christchurch mosque shooting (https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/zealand-man-22-arrested-allegedly-distributing-video-mosque/story?id=61742270)

Mark Osborne ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/zealand-man-22-arrested-allegedly-distributing-video-mosque/story?id=61742270)
Sun, 17 Mar 2019 17:54 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514398/large/5c8f05ea08f3d999658b4567.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514398/full/5c8f05ea08f3d999658b4567.jpg)
© Edgar Su / Reuters


A 22-year-old man from New Zealand has been arrested in connection with distribution of the video recording of Friday's tragic mosque shootings that killed 50 people (https://abcnews.go.com/International/death-toll-rises-50-zealand-terror-attack/story?id=61709909).

Brenton Tarrant, 28, who has been charged with murder in the mass shooting, filmed the massacres at Al Noor Mosque and Linwood Masjid in Christchurch on a Facebook (https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/facebook) livestream. Facebook was notified of the video and immediately took steps to remove the user and the recording, but not before it had been downloaded and reposted across the internet.

The 22-year-old, who has not been named by police, will be charged under the Films Videos and Publications Classification Act. He is expected to appear in court Monday.

New Zealand Police Commissioner Mike Bush and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern have repeatedly urged citizens and the media not to share footage of the attack.

Mia Garlick, a spokesperson for Facebook New Zealand, said 1.5 million videos of the attack had been removed from the platform globally within the first 24 hours of it occurring. That included 1.2 million that were blocked during the upload stage.

Police said they do not believe the 22-year-old was directly involved with the attack and is not being charged in relation to it.

"We would like to remind people that it is an offence to distribute or possess an objectionable publication (under the Films Videos and Publications Classifications Act 1993), which carries a penalty of imprisonment," New Zealand police said in a statement.

"The live stream video of the shootings in Christchurch has been classified by the Chief Censor's Office as objectionable," police added.

Sky News Australia was taken off the air by New Zealand's largest satellite provider after the network repeatedly showed clips of the shooting.

Tarrant, who made an initial appearance in court Saturday, is expected to face additional charges.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Have a look at this... Looks as though the films have been doctored somehow....

https://www.brighteon.com/6015029464001

Viking

[norman]

Try to find 'anything' recent by Sibel Edmonds. She has been digging and found stuff about this guy's tracks in Germany, among other places. He's been close to suicide bombings. By that I mean, he arrives in a country in the morning, there's a bombing, he leaves again, kinda close.

Spent/expired asset ?

I heard her on the Richie Allen show but the show isn't up on youtube yet.



here it is:
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[Cardillac]

it's ludicrous to believe one shooter alone could've killed 50 people; is anyone aware of how heavy guns/ammunition are to carry?- one person alone couldn't have done this- 1 gun alone/person could not have done this-

people, please wake up and use logic-

Larry

[Innocent Warrior]

[SIZE="3"]Full article at link -
https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/03/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-in-and-christchurch-attacks/


Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.wo9.html)'s perspective:


NOT RUMOR:

New Zealand has identified people who saved the Christchurch shooting live stream and is going around arresting them now. Those arrested are detained WITHOUT BAIL.

QUESTION:

Why be so obsessed about this? Why?

I'd like them to answer WHY THEY ARE SO WORKED UP ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING COPIES OF THIS that they are going around arresting people who have it?

[B]IS THERE A "FRAME 313" IN THAT VIDEO?
REPEAT: Why be obsessed about this video SO BADLY you need it cleaned up all tidy and proper so aggressively you're going to arrest anyone who has it and hold them without bail?

Obvious answer: FRAME 313 (http://www.yandex.com/clck/jsredir?bu=84kp&from=www.yandex.com%3Bsearch%2F%3Bweb%3B%3B&text=&etext=2095.lqsJbAB8NJ-52-fBQ5pViMasRLP7g0AeIHyvQyRvEKg.ab32c21c9fa8ef3ea48149668502100053973e5d&uuid=&state=PEtFfuTeVD5kpHnK9lio9fjASLi99Ho0J-ExI57opGF0qqFBd3uq9A,,&&cst=AiuY0DBWFJ5Hyx_fyvalFHmeF5yUXADJDuau-F11TiBSkoa50CEPULqId4zgJ5oq1i7bnmXOFcjqAZl-RXYWk0s77JmTOmUzPh6cTZ6EeEMR6x-VmdrGn12ngADee86kiPQlNZSGnYHWMSORDNSExDGiraTGDeuJLJ9QT5PVMoTR_pZt5YYkz5t5SLZaDTQKwE-uhefIXCQ4k0nNIc7aleY6XR8AOyFq08n_qZcu2GjqoUK93Z0A8r1YY9m5nJMlxgz639PuhbIIGiFe6Q0GYzD5gUbp--8Ov7C51XX43PJOrET7tVaeRQLMmpeQ2Fw6duyhl2biUSMmqSXZCXXX0_0F9aM16LtDPb82fUF_vr6sM5kvgWWLh2BEuGl9wflCVO I-At3AzRsRXkdwMO97Hr5YS4aHzAEjxvKhj1NN66pYDKiJy17ldVC6UjhM8qk9C1WywA2qz5E,&data=UlNrNmk5WktYejR0eWJFYk1Ldmtxc2tjcjhISEd0eThEYlk0OWI5MF9zaU95V1NzVUcweUFReUo2ZU1kMXJxcEJ5RWxHYkN qSWxaM2d1Q2FZQzN2RV9lOUVxaktiMmg1T3pnRi1fd09kS3B2VWllLVN4bkJEdDVoNzRHT1ZSd1VVRUZrSGgxcXl4VnVPMlVkNWd JWHBFcnkwRl9JbTc4UG81SHFRaGlSWk1LVmUxbGM2T0RkNUEsLA,,&sign=951ac32c163f59f888718fafe6fe8461&keyno=0&b64e=2&ref=orjY4mGPRjlSKyJlbRuxUnU39LXnsQVOU9hOXlFVqHKtMG-hplcoM7DbWJmI9bJVKY2CE9xXQJA,&l10n=en&rp=1&cts=1552922148731&mc=1.5219280948873624&hdtime=35193).

GET IT?

It HAS TO reveal something, there's a glaring revelation in it somewhere, and someone wants it buried post haste so badly that if you can reveal something very uncomfortable for the power elite in this video and don't be obedient and destroy it, YOU ARE GONE.

SEE THIS. (https://twitter.com/rnz_news/status/1107472460771778562)

In reply to Hervé’s post, I think the following vid shows why. Kiwi, quoting you too so you can check this out in case it disappears. I’ve tried to disprove the commentator’s point but can’t yet, see if you can.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cordicon/status/1107762692826247170 (watch to end of vid, he picks up the mag, you see it clearly then)

I watched a little over seven minutes of it on a video LiveLeak published (I don’t have a copy, no way was I downloading that). The start of the livestream was not on the video I watched, the one I watched began when he went to the back of his car. In that seven minutes he went into the mosque, went back to his car (he left it open the entire time he was there, with guns in it btw, thought that was risky and weird at the time) and went back into the mosque, left and then drove away.

So at first I thought that video in the link doesn’t show the first time he entered the mosque and that he dropped the magazine the first time he was in. But then I realised the vid I watched didn’t have the start where he says sub to PewDiePie etc. and that this vid definitely shows his first entry. I took note of the weapons at the time I watched the video, he walked in the first time with the shotgun, emptied that and then used the semi auto, then he leaves and comes back from the car with a light machine gun. So this is definitely his first entrance, he can’t have dropped that magazine.

[KiwiElf]

Thanks Rachel (done) :highfive: - Complete False Flag

If only one shooter then why TWO cars involved, both with explosive devices?
Footage shows at least two, possibly three shooters & Crisis Actors
MASSIVE coverup (footage exposes the lies NZ's Deepstate is telling you, including the PM & media) why dear God, would anyone be arrested for possessing it?

[DaveToo]

A highly questionable 9/11 event happened.

Good post Doug.
I'm left scratching my head however with the above statement about 9/11.
What did you mean exactly when you said "highly questionable"?

[Spellbound]

What gives me reason to question this is as follows:

1) When he got out of his car, walked over to his trunk to get his guns, and then walked into the mosque with multiple assault rifles / guns in hand....the bystanders on the street don't even flinch when they see him.

and...

2) There is very minimal blood splatter (there's a tiny bit of spray...but not much at all). One would think there would be a lot more blood, either in splatter...or certainly on the walls (which were white).

http://all4alarp.com/watch/nz-shooting-hoax-analyzed_ayu2Ir99IzTgJrG.htmlall4alarp.com/watch/nz-shooting-hoax-analyzed_ayu2Ir99IzTgJrG.html

Something is off here.

Dave - Toronto

[Caliban]

What gives me reason to question this is as follows:

1) When he got out of his car, walked over to his trunk to get his guns, and then walked into the mosque with multiple assault rifles / guns in hand....the bystanders on the street don't even flinch when they see him.

and...

2) There is very minimal blood splatter (there's a tiny bit of spray...but not much at all). One would think there would be a lot more blood, either in splatter...or certainly on the walls (which were white).

http://all4alarp.com/watch/nz-shooting-hoax-analyzed_ayu2Ir99IzTgJrG.htmlall4alarp.com/watch/nz-shooting-hoax-analyzed_ayu2Ir99IzTgJrG.html

Something is off here.

Dave - Toronto

Totally. That's the first thing I noticed -- where's all the blood?? The walls (and floors) should have been splattered all over with it. And the camera lens as well! We're being played, yet again...

[Zanshin]

Not endorsing any narrative yet - just lots of people asking lots of questions -

possible footage of crisis actors and vanishing ejected cartridges.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=119381

https://www.brighteon.com/6015029464001

https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/03/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-in-and-christchurch-attacks/

All the while the knee jerk racism platforms rolled out to obfuscate whatever the real agenda is.


apologies kiwi and viking - reposting stuff that's already up.

[Lost N Found]

Very interesting thread this is. All the commentary about what happened and what really happened all the while it is damn blatantly obvious that this is just another DS FF meant to pull the worlds attention away from what is happening elsewhere. It has been stated that this news is not big enough to pull the focus away from the Fisa disclosure and declass that is happening in Washington DC. Lets not forget that NZ is part of the five eyes and those fisa documents are going to expose the NZ gov for what it really is.

Sure it is a real tragedy that this operative comes in and shoots up a couple of Mosques and supposedly kills 50 muslims in two different places but just look at the news narrative and what is happening. Complete censorship, New gun laws, sad sad feeling for the poor muslims who were killed but wait the news sources and the Pm bag of a slave puppet could really care less. The objective was and is to keep the people divided and in the dark by using religion, color, ethnicity, culture, age and by all means separate the female and male with gender BS. Geez. This same crap happens all over the world. This was just the latest attack. Same MO and everything. Just look back at the more recent mass shootings, and so called natural disasters.

Its the folks of NZ that are being attacked, the loss of freedoms is such a big goal, the lose of free speech, you name it the damn gov wants to control.
Lets all wallow in the sorrow for these dead people and think for some reason it was caused by a right wing nut who was a white supremacist. BULL S**t, The stupid pawn said he was more socialist, communist and a fascist to boot and he didn't want anything to do with conservatism. In fact he was a leftist of the highest order and just look who is the most violent. Someone needs to jam this crap in the PM's face and make her eat the crow.

Well, In the last 30 days or so there has been mass christian murders by the MUSLIMS in Nigeria. has anyone paid that any attention. has the news sources put that up in front of the controlled people. 839 christian men and women and children butchered to death. Where is the outrage for this? Guess its okay to kill the christians but not ok to kill the muslims who are killing them. What kind of world is this I ask. This is all about divide and conquer and the more we continue to allow the DS players to do this the more we are going live in this hell. Here is a link to the article about the Christian deaths.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/icymi-120-christians-slaughtered-by-muslim-herders-in-nigeria-media-silent/

[Innocent Warrior]

[SIZE="3"]Full article at link -
https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/03/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-in-and-christchurch-attacks/


Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.wo9.html)'s perspective:


NOT RUMOR:

New Zealand has identified people who saved the Christchurch shooting live stream and is going around arresting them now. Those arrested are detained WITHOUT BAIL.

QUESTION:

Why be so obsessed about this? Why?

I'd like them to answer WHY THEY ARE SO WORKED UP ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING COPIES OF THIS that they are going around arresting people who have it?

[B]IS THERE A "FRAME 313" IN THAT VIDEO?
REPEAT: Why be obsessed about this video SO BADLY you need it cleaned up all tidy and proper so aggressively you're going to arrest anyone who has it and hold them without bail?

Obvious answer: FRAME 313 (http://www.yandex.com/clck/jsredir?bu=84kp&from=www.yandex.com%3Bsearch%2F%3Bweb%3B%3B&text=&etext=2095.lqsJbAB8NJ-52-fBQ5pViMasRLP7g0AeIHyvQyRvEKg.ab32c21c9fa8ef3ea48149668502100053973e5d&uuid=&state=PEtFfuTeVD5kpHnK9lio9fjASLi99Ho0J-ExI57opGF0qqFBd3uq9A,,&&cst=AiuY0DBWFJ5Hyx_fyvalFHmeF5yUXADJDuau-F11TiBSkoa50CEPULqId4zgJ5oq1i7bnmXOFcjqAZl-RXYWk0s77JmTOmUzPh6cTZ6EeEMR6x-VmdrGn12ngADee86kiPQlNZSGnYHWMSORDNSExDGiraTGDeuJLJ9QT5PVMoTR_pZt5YYkz5t5SLZaDTQKwE-uhefIXCQ4k0nNIc7aleY6XR8AOyFq08n_qZcu2GjqoUK93Z0A8r1YY9m5nJMlxgz639PuhbIIGiFe6Q0GYzD5gUbp--8Ov7C51XX43PJOrET7tVaeRQLMmpeQ2Fw6duyhl2biUSMmqSXZCXXX0_0F9aM16LtDPb82fUF_vr6sM5kvgWWLh2BEuGl9wflCVO I-At3AzRsRXkdwMO97Hr5YS4aHzAEjxvKhj1NN66pYDKiJy17ldVC6UjhM8qk9C1WywA2qz5E,&data=UlNrNmk5WktYejR0eWJFYk1Ldmtxc2tjcjhISEd0eThEYlk0OWI5MF9zaU95V1NzVUcweUFReUo2ZU1kMXJxcEJ5RWxHYkN qSWxaM2d1Q2FZQzN2RV9lOUVxaktiMmg1T3pnRi1fd09kS3B2VWllLVN4bkJEdDVoNzRHT1ZSd1VVRUZrSGgxcXl4VnVPMlVkNWd JWHBFcnkwRl9JbTc4UG81SHFRaGlSWk1LVmUxbGM2T0RkNUEsLA,,&sign=951ac32c163f59f888718fafe6fe8461&keyno=0&b64e=2&ref=orjY4mGPRjlSKyJlbRuxUnU39LXnsQVOU9hOXlFVqHKtMG-hplcoM7DbWJmI9bJVKY2CE9xXQJA,&l10n=en&rp=1&cts=1552922148731&mc=1.5219280948873624&hdtime=35193).

GET IT?

It HAS TO reveal something, there's a glaring revelation in it somewhere, and someone wants it buried post haste so badly that if you can reveal something very uncomfortable for the power elite in this video and don't be obedient and destroy it, YOU ARE GONE.

SEE THIS. (https://twitter.com/rnz_news/status/1107472460771778562)

In reply to Hervé’s post, I think the following vid shows why. Kiwi, quoting you too so you can check this out in case it disappears. I’ve tried to disprove the commentator’s point but can’t yet, see if you can.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cordicon/status/1107762692826247170 (watch to end of vid, he picks up the mag, you see it clearly then)

I watched a little over seven minutes of it on a video LiveLeak published (I don’t have a copy, no way was I downloading that). The start of the livestream was not on the video I watched, the one I watched began when he went to the back of his car. In that seven minutes he went into the mosque, went back to his car (he left it open the entire time he was there, with guns in it btw, thought that was risky and weird at the time) and went back into the mosque, left and then drove away.

So at first I thought that video in the link doesn’t show the first time he entered the mosque and that he dropped the magazine the first time he was in. But then I realised the vid I watched didn’t have the start where he says sub to PewDiePie etc. and that this vid definitely shows his first entry. I took note of the weapons at the time I watched the video, he walked in the first time with the shotgun, emptied that and then used the semi auto, then he leaves and comes back from the car with a light machine gun. So this is definitely his first entrance, he can’t have dropped that magazine.

The linked vid has already been deleted.

Another thing to check out if you come across a copy of the vid again (don’t download, not worth it, most people will believe what they want to regardless of evidence, proven time and again).

There’s a flashing light on the end of his semi auto rifle when he enters the mosque. At about the eight minute mark he’s leaving the end, large room in the mosque and heading back to the hallway. At that time you can see an object on the floor in the end room. If my memory is serving me correctly, he no longer has the light on the end of his rifle at this point (constant light source from camera at this point, I think).

The object on the floor is small and shooting out light in a spray pattern, the effect looks just like a rifle does when it’s being fired. I’d expect to see the flashing light but not that light that’s spraying out of it. I’m thinking that was an attachment that simulates the gun being fired, that it fell off and ended up constantly spraying out light like that on the floor. It was definitely not that flashing light you see on the rifle on the way in, it looks just like a gun firing constantly while it’s there on the floor. (like one of those white fireworks that spray from the ground, that sort of effect).

Would need to analyse to be sure, make sure the rifle is missing an end piece on his way out, that was on it when he entered etc. Keep an eye out for that anyway, if you have the time. I don’t have the time to look into this any further and have seen enough anyway.

[norman]

. . . . 839 christian men and women and children butchered to death. Where is the outrage for this?



. . . or pretentious versions of John Lennon's 'Imagine'. .

Says it all, mate, says it all.

[Zanshin]

Rachel - the object appears to be a tactical style flashlight set to strobe. No correlation between flashes and shot sounds.

It falls off 1.23 mins in to video. There is still some movement at the muzzle after this point.

I have to say though, the whole thing has an orchestrated feel to it - like a fallout vid or an airsoft live-replay.

Please no offense intended if this is legit footage - maybe its the markings on the weapons that make it seem surreal, or
lack of damage to surroundings.

I'm sure I am not the only parent of a teenage son for whom this footage would hardly raise an eyebrow -

talk about pre-conditioning.

An air-soft clip -

lTG3J_3M_NM

[Innocent Warrior]

Cheers, Zanshin. Here’s a link to a vid talking about the magazine (no images so it doesn’t get taken down) but check out the links in the comment section. Two to note; the one with the man in the hallway who is barefoot when he’s shot but has blue socks on when the shooter is on the way out, and the other is the gif showing no damage to windshield when he shoots at it from inside the car (not seen there in the gif but he also shot at the passenger window without causing any damage).

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nRzJkxSGnnJd/

Update: claims in comments that a hole can be seen and that the passenger window shatters? Not what I recall but needs to be checked.

[KiwiElf]

Some very "interesting" articles & background about the NZ Mosque Shooting (cross posted):

Public Intelligence Blog

https://phibetaiota.net/2019/03/breaking-new-zealand-false-flag-by-zionist-israel-with-complete-new-zealand-police-and-freemason-complicity/

[Innocent Warrior]

Cheers, Zanshin. Here’s a link to a vid talking about the magazine (no images so it doesn’t get taken down) but check out the links in the comment section. Two to note; the one with the man in the hallway who is barefoot when he’s shot but has blue socks on when the shooter is on the way out, and the other is the gif showing no damage to windshield when he shoots at it from inside the car (not seen there in the gif but he also shot at the passenger window without causing any damage).

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nRzJkxSGnnJd/

Update: claims in comments that a hole can be seen and that the passenger window shatters? Not what I recall but needs to be checked.

Found a vid, passenger seat window does shatter, so live ammo in shotgun from front seat of car and windshield could hold and damage not visible with that quality of video. I was confused at why he shot at the windows, not seemingly shooting at any targets. The passenger window doesn’t shatter until second shot, then he stops shooting that, display to show live ammo in car?

Checked barefoot man/blue socks; def barefoot on the way in and blue on both feet on the way out. Socks unexplainable. The man is crawling and then doesn’t move once shot dead, same clothes except socks and same location.

Checked to make sure magazine wasn’t thrown on his way in (even though that doesn’t make any sense) but didn’t see it travel or land and saw no signs that his hands left the gun in a way that would allow him to throw it, especially that far.

K, really done now. Thanks again.

P.S. Not Assuming there were no deaths, really. As an example, could be that there were people who were at the mosque who were in on it, which would explain the magazine (could be that those were blanks, explains why he checked them but didn’t use them until on his way out where possible insiders were - makes more sense than how it rolled out in the vid). If there were any other blanks fired then it would be the shotgun at the entrance (couldn’t see who he was shooting), blue socks man was at the entrance, he was shot first with semi auto, could have vest on or first rounds in first magazine were blanks. Could be that it was mix of real and fake because of insiders and post production livestream or delay. Who knows but something’s up.

[Zanshin]

As far as causal factors for the event go, this might be a little more along the lines of standard modus operandi.

I'm not sure how many are aware of comparisons between Jacinda and 'Michelle' Obama -

I found myself tickled by the title to this article.

The Deep State’s Last Stand: The Transgender Baphomet Agenda in New Zealand’s Wonderland.

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2018/06/04/the-deep-states-last-stand-the-transgender-baphomet-agenda-in-new-zealands-wonderland/

I think the footage is fairly conclusive -

b7YiFQFk6fc

[GMB1961]

Irrespective of what religion you are, what colour you are how much you make or what you don't have, what gender or sexual persuasion you are.
JUST HUMAN BEINGS.
My wish is that the killing of innocents stops, we try to live in harmony and peace, we try to get along with each other, we be kind to each other and try be happy, healthy and a little wiser. Be the change you want to see have happen.
I send blessings and good intentions to all.
Glenn.

[BMJ]

Article discussing the media's double standards regarding coverage of acts of terrorism.

How the media distorts the New Zealand shooting to protect radical Muslim jihadis while demonizing white people

Right on cue, the same lying, corporate media that always claims we “shouldn’t leap to conclusions” when radicalized Muslims carry out acts of terrorism (such as the Orlando night club shooting, or the Paris attacks, etc.) is hyperventilating over the New Zealand mass shooting, claiming that anyone who ever criticized any Muslim is now directly responsible for the killings.

The media has now gone into full-blown “protect the Muslims / demonize the Christians” mode, which is exactly what we’d expect a dishonest, globalist-run news cartel to do. For the record, myself and Natural News insist that it’s wrong to commit against of violence against anyone based on their religion or country of origin. But that is not the position of the left-wing media. To them, violence against Christians, Trump supporters, gun owners or white people is always justified.

Demonstrating the extreme media bias that’s now at play on a daily basis, the way the media responds to mass shootings depends entirely on whether Muslims are the victims or the shooter. If the shooter is Muslim, the media downplays the events and claims the shooter must have been justified, and tells us we shouldn’t paint all Muslims as being responsible for the actions of “one lone gunman.” But if the victims are Muslims, then the narrative goes into cartwheels to blame all white people, all Christians, all Trump supporters, all gun owners and anyone who ever criticized any Muslim, ever (including Ilhan Omar, a Jew-hating member of Congress who is also a Muslim).

The double standard is sickening and impossible to miss. BrightStartNews.com published a fascinating analysis that takes a closer look at how the Huffington Post runs stories that work overtime to protect Muslims and demonize everyone else, even in cases where Muslims carry out mass murder. (The Left in America today has become anti-Israel, anti-Jew, anti-white, anti-America and anti-Christian. They now worship radical Islam, even as they simultaneously promote the same LGBT agenda that gets gays beheaded with machetes in Muslim countries… go figure.)

COMPARE: Media Reaction To Fusion Nightclub Terror Attack Vs Christchurch Terror Attack
From BrightStartNews.com:

Watching the media and establishment reaction to the Christchurch New Zealand has been a sight to behold.

When a Muslim called 911 to publicly pledge allegiance to ISIS moments before slaughtering 49 gay people in the Pulse Nightclub massacre, the media reaction was one of caution. We mustn’t jump to any conclusions about the motives. We mustn’t blame a whole community for the actions of an individual. We mustn’t draw any conclusions about the object of the shooters religious obsessions.

In the case of Omar Mateen, his motive wasn’t radical Islam even though he pledged allegiance to ISIS. No, his motive was big bad evil America killing too many civilians. Just ask Huffington Post:

The gunman who slaughtered 49 people in an Orlando, Florida, nightclub told a police negotiator the attack was a protest against U.S. bombings of Islamic State targets in Iraq and Syria.

”You have to tell the U.S. government to stop bombing. They are killing too many children. They are killing too many women, okay,” gunman Omar Mateen told a police negotiator by phone during the June attack, hours before the killer died in a shootout with police.

In his conversations with the police negotiator, Mateen repeatedly complained about civilians killed by U.S. airstrikes in Syria and Iraq. “What am I to do when my people are getting killed over there,” he said.

When the negotiator asked him to identify himself, Mateen answered, “My name is Islamic soldier,” and, “Call me Mujahideen. Call me the solider of God.” He said he’d pledged allegiance to the Islamic State and expressed admiration for one of the brothers who carried out the deadly Boston Marathon bombing in 2013.

Investigators concluded later that there was no direct link between ISIS and the assault on Pulse, a gay nightclub.

HTTPS://WWW.HUFFINGTONPOST.COM/ENTRY/OMAR-MATEEN-ORLANDO-POLICE-NEGOTIATOR_US_57E5B13AE4B08D73B831834A

The jihadi literally spells it out for them:

The attack occurred during the holy month of Ramadan. Mateen told the negotiator that he was adhering to religious tradition.

So…despite the fact that he openly declared his motives and allegiance, that’s not what it was at all. There was no connection to ISIS. Nothing to see here. Move along.

But when a white man walks into a mosque and slaughters 50 muslims, his motives are immediately known, interpreted, and extrapolated onto a larger community.

Huffpo has thrown all caution out the window for the Christchurch, NZ terror attack.

Huffpo headline: “The New Zealand Shooter’s Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress”

That’s pretty rich considering the intolerance coming from Congress has all been radical Muslims attacking Jews. But apparently it’s Republican rhetoric that’s in need of examination according to HuffPo.

Huffpo headline: “Mass Shooters Have Exploited The Internet For Years. New Zealand Took It To A New Level.”
Omar Mateen didn’t take Jihad’s hate-filled, angry ideology and make it viral?

This is just Huffington Post. You can do this comparison and receive similar results at almost any news organization in the country.

And when a Muslim slaughters innocent people, the community is immediately warned not to incite a backlash.

Huffpo headline: “Orlando Muslims Grapple With Backlash Tied To Pulse Nightclub Gunman”

Huffpo headline: “US Muslim groups condemn Orlando nightclub shooting amid fears of backlash”

In the case of the Christchurch terror attack, there are no warnings of caution against a backlash. On the contrary, the media and institutional left seem hell bent on fostering one.

Also, after a muslim commits an act of terror on American soil, like the one on 9/11, Americans are immediately warned that to sacrifice any freedom for security is a betrayal of the American dream.

Here’s the ACLU on not sacrificing freedom when a Muslim slaughters innocent people:

America faces a crucial test. That test is whether we – the political descendents of Jefferson and Madison, and citizens of the world’s oldest democracy – have the confidence, ingenuity and commitment to secure our safety without sacrificing our liberty.

HTTPS://WWW.ACLU.ORG/OTHER/ACLU-TESTIMONY-HEARING-AMERICA-AFTER-911-FREEDOM-PRESERVED-OR-FREEDOM-LOST-SENATE-JUDICIARY

Today, the left is demanding the shuttering of any chat board the Christchurch terrorist might’ve hung out. They don’t even want to debate freedom vs security. They just want to punish everyone who might identify with a community this terrorist identified with.

If anyone demanded the closing of a mosque frequented by the Boston Marathon bombers, or Omar Mateen, there’d be hell to pay from the ACLU.

Why are atrocities committed by a Muslim given the narrowest, velvet glove treatment while terrorism committed by a white guy is instantly interpreted against a wider community?

Comments from TheGatewayPundit tell us more

Reader commends on all this from TGP:

Citizen 1949: Isn’t it odd how the mass murders by mooslems go on around the world and barely a peep is heard in national media, but let one mosque shooting happen by a non-muslim and the media goes nuts.

Notmybrotherskeeper2: If only the Left were so outraged by the 4500 Christians murdered last year, by Muslims.
But then again, Christians being marked for genocide makes “progressives” feel less miserable than usual.

Whitehorse: In February of this year alone, 22 countries suffered through islamic terror attacks. There were a total of 150 attacks with 883 killed and 547 injured. Similar statistics occur every damn month. Most people are unaware of this staggering reality, or else their minds are incapable of rational thought and they can’t process what this entails.

Pepper Michaels: I REFUSE to watch and listen any “news” reports of the shootings anymore – and I have been. Meanwhile, mooslem affairs and atrocities are being committed monthly in places as the African continent, but yet the JOURNALISM sprinkles it lightly on page 15 of world news daily . Mooslem insertions into host nations is very delicate and upon insertion and attachment, host nation Governments become very, very, very afraid – see Nancy Pelosi blinking over Omar.

DZ-015: Huffpo masthead motto: If we didn’t have double standards, we’d have no standards at all.

Stephen Decatur: The Leftist propoganda machine is on full display every day for anyone who cares to see it. However, 2A is going to make the US a different challenge than the Islamists have encountered recently.

Michael in Dublin: “Today, the left is demanding the shuttering of any chat board the Christchurch terrorist might’ve hung out.” Great suggestion: shut down Google, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube and Apple devices so that all brutal people and terrorists can have no free publicity. This will prevent the spreading of hatred. The killer loved China but did not realize that if he had done this in China no one would have heard of this.

Link: https://naturalnews.com/2019-03-17-how-the-media-distorts-new-zealand-shooting-to-protect-radical-muslim.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[BMJ]

Well, In the last 30 days or so there has been mass christian murders by the MUSLIMS in Nigeria. has anyone paid that any attention. has the news sources put that up in front of the controlled people. 839 christian men and women and children butchered to death. Where is the outrage for this? Guess its okay to kill the christians but not ok to kill the muslims who are killing them. What kind of world is this I ask. This is all about divide and conquer and the more we continue to allow the DS players to do this the more we are going live in this hell. Here is a link to the article about the Christian deaths.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/icymi-120-christians-slaughtered-by-muslim-herders-in-nigeria-media-silent/

Related to your comment, see below.

All the religious massacres you didn’t hear about over the past year have one thing in common… Christians were killed instead of Muslims


On January 27, Muslim extremists bombed a Roman Catholic cathedral on the Philippine island of Jolo, killing some 20 people and injuring dozens of others. But you probably didn’t hear about this horrific religious massacre because the perpetrators were violent Islamic terrorists that targeted Christians, which means the Leftist media pretty much completely ignored it.

Though they often go unreported, there have actually been hundreds of similar such attacks by Muslims against Christians just within the past year alone, and almost none of them were given national, let alone global, media attention. That’s because the only tragedies that ever get reported by the fake news media are those that propagate an anti-white, anti-gun, and anti-Christian narrative.

Take the most recent alleged gun massacre in New Zealand, for instance. The fake news media won’t shut up about it, for one, and many of these same propaganda outlets are actually making up false narratives about the alleged shooter simply because he’s a white male who supposedly went on a rampage against Muslims while they were worshiping in their mosques.

It’s the perfect scenario for the Leftist media to go nuts with all sorts of crazy narratives blaming white people, conservatives, and even President Trump and his “rhetoric” for this evil act of violence, while also throwing in anti-Second Amendment talking points while they’re at it. But these same disinformation mouthpieces were nowhere to be found when Filipino Christians were murdered in cold blood in the name of Allah – why is that?

After all, both incidents are similar in that a religious group was targeted by deranged terrorists who openly admitted that they were out for innocent blood. The difference, however, is that in the eyes of the Left, it’s perfectly alright for the lives of Christians to be terminated by extremists because that’s considered to be “tolerance.” But when Muslims are targeted, it’s automatically “Islamophobia” and “racism” by white people against brown people.

Muslims murder Christians and other innocents all the time, but the fake news media ignores it all

The aforementioned religious terror attack that took place in the Philippines was hardly an isolated incident, by the way. It happens all the time, all over the world – though the average person remains completely unaware of it, thanks to a perpetual mainstream media blackout designed to cover up the truth.

As of this writing, there have been 453 Islamic terror attacks in 31 different countries so far this year – and these are just the ones that have been reported. In total, just in 2019 so far, there have been a shocking 1,956 people murdered by Islamic terrorists, and another 2,019 injured, according to TheReligionOfPeace.com.

Had each of these incidents been reportedly as widely and aggressively as the most recent New Zealand attack, the general public would clearly see the threat of radical Islamic terrorism, and perhaps call for Muslims to be banned from the country much in the same way that they’re demanding guns be banned. But because such incidents are kept under wraps, there’s a widespread illusion among Leftists that everything is a-okay, and that Muslims are just perfect little darlings who assimilate peacefully into Western society.

Everyday Leftists are also guilty of willfully covering up this inconvenient truth, especially as they seek to legislatively stop “hate crimes” and “hate speech” against all people groups in this country except, you guessed it: white people and Christian people.

In other words, whites and Christians are now the only unprotected members of American society who are always guilty of everything that’s bad, according to Democrats, and who are never unfairly targeted or mistreated by anyone else due to their “privilege.” Meanwhile, Muslim terrorists are allowed to wreak havoc all across the globe in the name of “diversity.”

Link: https://naturalnews.com/2019-03-17-religious-massacres-you-didnt-hear-about-christians-were-killed.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[BMJ]

Irrespective of what religion you are, what colour you are how much you make or what you don't have, what gender or sexual persuasion you are.
JUST HUMAN BEINGS.
My wish is that the killing of innocents stops, we try to live in harmony and peace, we try to get along with each other, we be kind to each other and try be happy, healthy and a little wiser. Be the change you want to see have happen.
I send blessings and good intentions to all.
Glenn.

We will get there sooner rather than later, these are the growing pains to humanities future of peaceful coexistence and prosperity for all, less the satanic element in humanity.

[Hervé]

Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.wo9.html)'s perspective:
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REPEAT: Why be obsessed about this video SO BADLY you need it cleaned up all tidy and proper so aggressively you're going to arrest anyone who has it and hold them without bail?

Obvious answer: FRAME 313 (http://www.yandex.com/clck/jsredir?bu=84kp&from=www.yandex.com%3Bsearch%2F%3Bweb%3B%3B&text=&etext=2095.lqsJbAB8NJ-52-fBQ5pViMasRLP7g0AeIHyvQyRvEKg.ab32c21c9fa8ef3ea48149668502100053973e5d&uuid=&state=PEtFfuTeVD5kpHnK9lio9fjASLi99Ho0J-ExI57opGF0qqFBd3uq9A,,&&cst=AiuY0DBWFJ5Hyx_fyvalFHmeF5yUXADJDuau-F11TiBSkoa50CEPULqId4zgJ5oq1i7bnmXOFcjqAZl-RXYWk0s77JmTOmUzPh6cTZ6EeEMR6x-VmdrGn12ngADee86kiPQlNZSGnYHWMSORDNSExDGiraTGDeuJLJ9QT5PVMoTR_pZt5YYkz5t5SLZaDTQKwE-uhefIXCQ4k0nNIc7aleY6XR8AOyFq08n_qZcu2GjqoUK93Z0A8r1YY9m5nJMlxgz639PuhbIIGiFe6Q0GYzD5gUbp--8Ov7C51XX43PJOrET7tVaeRQLMmpeQ2Fw6duyhl2biUSMmqSXZCXXX0_0F9aM16LtDPb82fUF_vr6sM5kvgWWLh2BEuGl9wflCVO I-At3AzRsRXkdwMO97Hr5YS4aHzAEjxvKhj1NN66pYDKiJy17ldVC6UjhM8qk9C1WywA2qz5E,&data=UlNrNmk5WktYejR0eWJFYk1Ldmtxc2tjcjhISEd0eThEYlk0OWI5MF9zaU95V1NzVUcweUFReUo2ZU1kMXJxcEJ5RWxHYkN qSWxaM2d1Q2FZQzN2RV9lOUVxaktiMmg1T3pnRi1fd09kS3B2VWllLVN4bkJEdDVoNzRHT1ZSd1VVRUZrSGgxcXl4VnVPMlVkNWd JWHBFcnkwRl9JbTc4UG81SHFRaGlSWk1LVmUxbGM2T0RkNUEsLA,,&sign=951ac32c163f59f888718fafe6fe8461&keyno=0&b64e=2&ref=orjY4mGPRjlSKyJlbRuxUnU39LXnsQVOU9hOXlFVqHKtMG-hplcoM7DbWJmI9bJVKY2CE9xXQJA,&l10n=en&rp=1&cts=1552922148731&mc=1.5219280948873624&hdtime=35193).

GET IT?

It HAS TO reveal something, there's a glaring revelation in it somewhere, and someone wants it buried post haste so badly that if you can reveal something very uncomfortable for the power elite in this video and don't be obedient and destroy it, YOU ARE GONE.

SEE THIS. (https://twitter.com/rnz_news/status/1107472460771778562)

In reply to Hervé’s post, I think the following vid shows why.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Cordicon/status/1107762692826247170 (watch to end of vid, he picks up the mag, you see it clearly then)
[...]
Yes, the "Frame 313" in this case seems to be what is called "Movie Continuity (http://colmomurchu.com/?p=154)" in the film industry... the continuity bloopers in the "live stream" are too obvious and many a cat are out of the bag.

Then, why attract attention to it by censoring it?

[Strat]

There is a new Netflix release called 'The Alt Right'.

Watched it, it's really good. Kinda interesting fact is the guys in it that separated and killed a man in North FL was in my city. The reporters on the local station (news4jax) is the same station I watch like everyday. Almost took me off guard seeing them on Netflix, but not really given the context.

Did they show the flyers that they pass around? I remember they showed them demonstrating how they pass them around but dunno if they showed the actual fliers. They're rediculous. They say stuff like 'were not racist, thats just from the old days.' Buuut when you look at a flyer they pass around it's beyond racist its just silly. But if you're black or jewish its not silly.

I swear Jax has got to be the perfect city for studying race relations. I could talk on this forever.

[Strat]

you are right. If you are raised in a multiracial environment, you do not see any difference, even if racially there are (color of skin, hair, etc.).

I think this is the most popular perspective but I don't look at it this way. We are different, just the way it is. Not good or bad, just is.

Obviously we should all be treated equally, but that's another topic.

[norman]

A good way to take "race" out of things, is to see things in terms of a small community trying to get along with each other in peace. If we can look each other in the eye with respect, we're good to go. If we can't we need 'space' to be able to live in peace in this world.

It's plain common sense, once you take all the Machiavellian agendas out of it.

[holistic1]

https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/03/scott-bennett-the-new-zealand-shooting-what-happened-and-why/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoz5mQtXuo&feature=youtu.be

https://www.henrymakow.com/
link (https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/03/Banned-Mosque-Massacre-Video-Described.html) to shooters video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5s9uVgH6Gw
x22


just another FF.....who would have thought

[Hervé]

Fall-outs off the Christchurch massacre are showing up:


Aussie PM calls for more internet policing in wake of Christchurch attacks (https://www.rt.com/news/454236-scott-morrison-social-media-clampdown/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/news/454236-scott-morrison-social-media-clampdown/)
Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:29 UTC


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Scott Morrison © Reuters/David Moir


Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has called for a global crackdown on social media in the aftermath of the Christchurch mosque shootings, one of which was streamed live on Facebook and viewed thousands of times.

"It is unacceptable to treat the internet as an ungoverned space," Morrison wrote in a letter to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ahead of the upcoming G20 meeting in Osaka, Japan in June.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1-cQE4UkAAg7RQ?format=jpg&name=360x360 (https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720/photo/1) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1-cQE5UYAErs9K?format=jpg&name=360x360 (https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720/photo/1)


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/443165610524934145/ZZa43Ifa_normal.jpeg (https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP) Scott Morrison ✔ @ScottMorrisonMP
(https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP)
I've written to Japanese PM @AbeShinzo (https://twitter.com/AbeShinzo) as G20 President to have the leaders of the world’s biggest economies ensure social media companies implement better safeguards to ensure their platforms can’t be exploited by terrorists or to spread hate speech.

231 (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1107775840824094720)
12:48 AM - Mar 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720)

(https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720)

"It is imperative that the global community works together to ensure that technology firms meet their moral obligation to protect the communities which they serve and from which they profit," Morrison added.
In a report (https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/03/update-on-new-zealand/) on the incident, Facebook said that less than 200 people actually watched the carnage unfold live, but the archived video of the attack in which 50 people were killed and over 40 injured was then reportedly streamed some 4,000 times before it was eventually taken down. The first user complaint was lodged some 29 minutes after the attack had begun.

Morrison questioned social media giants' ability to police their own platforms, especially in light of such graphic and disturbing content being shared so easily across multiple platforms, as a terrorist attack was underway.

The company claims it removed 1.5 million copies of the videos of the attack in the first 24 hours, 1.2 million of which were "blocked at upload." YouTube was heavily criticized for its perceived failure to adequately quarantine and remove any clones of the mosque attack video.
"If they can write an algorithm to make sure that the ads they want you to see can appear on your mobile phone, then I'm quite confident they can write an algorithm to screen out hate content on social media platforms," Morrison told reporters in Adelaide.
However, Morrison has already received criticism, with some dubbing his call to action "collateral censorship" amid fears of overreaction and knee-jerk regulations.



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000426773753/440a9d6e4b72c1619df576ce104a4538_normal.jpeg (https://twitter.com/TheWillowGhost) WillowGhost @TheWillowGhost
(https://twitter.com/TheWillowGhost)
Replying to @ScottMorrisonMP @AbeShinzo (https://twitter.com/_/status/1107775840824094720)
Whilst I agree that the social media giants should clean up their act (it's frustrating to report hate speech over and over, only to have them say it doesn't infringe their abysmally-low standards), you and your gov't and the MSM have to stop fanning the flames of Islamophobia.

(https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1107858860788768768)
6:18 AM - Mar 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TheWillowGhost/status/1107858860788768768)


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/755703594288951296/YwWmMgCy_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/Rayrobby11) Ray @Rayrobby11
(https://twitter.com/Rayrobby11)
Replying to @ScottMorrisonMP @AbeShinzo (https://twitter.com/_/status/1107775840824094720)
This is just an excuse for censoring a media thats not controlled by your donors.....you can't safeguard a live stream without banning all streams.

12:04 PM - Mar 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/Rayrobby11/status/1107945829199806464)

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/972982410517229568/wNN6vtsW_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/csmagor) ░C░S░M░ @csmagor
(https://twitter.com/csmagor)
Replying to @ScottMorrisonMP @AbeShinzo (https://twitter.com/_/status/1107775840824094720)
I suppose you don't need to worry as yours is protected under parliamentary privilege.

1:33 AM - Mar 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/csmagor/status/1107787075703586816)


purlescent @BettlesEmpire (https://twitter.com/BettlesEmpire)
Replying to @ScottMorrisonMP @AbeShinzo (https://twitter.com/_/status/1107775840824094720)
Today you take down people making terroristic threats, tomorrow it could be 'hate speech' and the day after its anyone that has the "wrong" opinion. Removing content is a narrow line and you should tread very carefully.

(https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1107822341646479361)
3:53 AM - Mar 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/BettlesEmpire/status/1107822341646479361)


Nobody Important @MrHoffalicious
(https://twitter.com/MrHoffalicious)
All hail 1984

Scott Morrison ✔ @ScottMorrisonMP
(https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720)I've written to Japanese PM @AbeShinzo as G20 President to have the leaders of the world’s biggest economies ensure social media companies implement better safeguards to ensure their platforms can’t be exploited by terrorists or to spread hate speech.

(https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1-cQE4UkAAg7RQ?format=jpg&name=360x360 (https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1-cQE5UYAErs9K?format=jpg&name=360x360 (https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1107775840824094720)

4:27 PM - Mar 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/MrHoffalicious/status/1108012138356891649)

(https://twitter.com/BettlesEmpire)"It is a difficult task to moderate live content," law professor and algorithm expert Frank Pasquale from the University of Maryland said, as quoted by ABC News (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-19/scott-morrison-social-media-companies-christchurch-shootings/10915246).
"It's not as easy as it's being made out to be in terms of directly applying advertising algorithms to get rid of forbidden content or horrific content."
In Facebook's case, its some two billion users can initiate a livestream at the touch of a button. However, there is currently no known algorithm that governs livestream video the same way as traditional posts. Facebook already employs thousands of content moderators to sift through flagged videos on the platform, many of whom experience PTSD-like symptoms.

Morrison said the Australian government was already exploring "practical proposals in this area right now."

[KiwiElf]

Then, why attract attention to it by censoring it?

Why indeed? This is wayyyy beyond censorship; it's obfuscation & erasure of evidence. No one should be punished for having it or studying it. (10 years imprisonment & or a $250,000 fine for possessing it? Insane!) What are "they" hiding & Why?

In the bigger picture, what's the true agenda(s)? (rhetorical question). :sherlock:

[Lost N Found]

Well try as they might, they can't get rid of it, I mean all the videos. The people are too awake these days and Sure the Kiwi's are going to suffer big time which is what is really going on as we speak and the DS batards are pushing big time in NZ and trying to make it spread all over but that won't happen and they know it. Here is some more from Natural News and The Brighteon web site is unaffected at the moment so can read and see the vids if so choose. Magic disappearing brass and all along with dummy bodies piled up in a corner. Ha what bulls**t.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-03-17-violent-videos-on-the-net-possessing-the-nz-mosque-shooting-video.html


March 19, 2019 by Starship Earth: The Big Picture
This Pile of “Bodies” Proves the Mosque Shooting Was a Total Hoax [video]

Al Noor mosque, Christchurch, NZ

It was un-real, and you may have seen this coming.

When they won’t let anyone see or be in possession of the actual footage from the mosque shootings under penalty of jail, they REALLY can’t afford to have anyone looking at it closely.

That means, like the Sandy Hoax shooting, it wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny. It’s shameless fakery à la Hollywood and the fake news is going to put their spin on it to weave a tale so intricate, many will be fooled.

It’s absurd to any thinking Human Being when you look at the evidence and let’s face it—most of us are experts at analyzing these terror events now—whether real or hoax.

We know they are desperate to staunch the flow of truth from the citizen journalists and social media because some very unpopular facts will be forthcoming that the psychopathic NWO cannot withstand. The Storm is just getting going.

BTW, did you hear that the marvelous actor playing the role of Gene Rosen in Newtown, CT was a FEMA employee? Imagine.
SANDY HOOK: Gene Rosen Identified as Official FEMA Employee

After the mystery of the incredible disappearing brass casings in Christchurch, this latest news didn’t come as a surprise. (See the SGT Report video, below.)

And with the police involved in a drill—again? Same old moth-eaten playbook. A theatrical showdown for effect.
NZ Police “Happened to Be in a Training Session” When Mosque Shooting Began

More fake bodies? We’ve seen them use dummies before—like the Bataclan massacre in Paris, I believe.
This Pile of “Bodies” Proves the Mosque Shooting Was a Total Hoax
New Zealand shooting being used by governments to create an internet police state

Well there certainly enough videos and evidence to show this as a definite FF and I certainly hope that the People of NZ stand up in force and kick these Freaks out of their country. Start by hanging the PM by her dainty little fingers and listen to her scream the truth out to the people. Just my thoughts.

[Satori]

It's an attempt to cover up, by cleaning up the crime scene and engaging in risk management. Right out of their tired old playbook. What to believe? Who to trust? The truth maybe be out there, and it is, but they fight very hard and play very nasty to keep it from us. Despicable.

[pyrangello]

Here's a blog I found and this person makes a great deal of good points- as follows:

Something I noticed is that the shooter turned on a strobe light down near his right foot, as he was driving his car (at about 4:13 into the video). When he went into the mosque, you could see a light was attached to his rifle barrel and it appeared to be strobing. And then when he entered the large room, there was a strobe light flashing in there, even reflecting off off the floor.
Flashing lights, known as Flicker Fusion, was a technique used by James Holmes, and using lights is also a method of mind control.

Other things that I, or others who i talk to, noticed are:

*A camera is in the car, directly over the driver’s head, high up near the headliner, so one has to assume it is on his head (helmet camera or a GoPro, perhaps) since it moves with him. However, when he turns to get a selfie, there is nothing on his head. There is no camera. Where is he camera?

*He gets out of the car with rifle in hand, but it just goes away somewhere as he grabs another rifle from the back. Where did he put the first rifle?

*His car music followed him into the church, even during the shooting. The car was not parked that close.

*He shoots several people and then he runs down the hall, passing the bodies, but also passing by a rifle magazine that was already dropped on the floor, even though he hadn’t been up that far yet. He retrieved it a bit later and reloaded it into his rifle.

*He reaches the end of the hall, enters into the large room and shoots a few shots mostly straight ahead but somewhat to the left. He then opens fire on the group in the right side of the room. However, the camera pans to the left side and there is a huge group of dead people piled up in the corner in the left hand side of the room, but no shots have even been fired over there.

*He runs down the hall, passing the bodies he had already shot. The man who had been crawling was barefoot when he was shot, is now wearing blue socks.

*He runs out the church door to go to his car and grab another rifle. He passes two bodies in the doorway, even though there was only one body there when he entered.

*He runs to the empty street and for some odd reason, shoots a bunch of bullets at nothing. as the spent shells eject, they just disappear (evaporate) into thin air.

*He goes back into the large room and shoots away at the bodies. However, there are no apparent bullet holes, blood splatter on the white walls, or holes in the clothing, even those shot at near point-blank range.

*As he runs out the church door, through a small gap in the fence, he spots a pedestrian walking and shoots her. He then continues to his car. The woman is lying in the street directly in front of his car. She is screaming for help and he shoots her twice in the back of the head (the only episode in this entire video that looks realistic). As he gets into his car, right on cue, a song begins, “”I am the God of Hell Fire…”. He puts the car into gear and runs over the dead woman, but the car doesn’t even bounce… not at all.

*As he is driving away, once again, camera directly above him, he has 3 shotguns laying on the other front seat. He picks one up and three separate times, shoots his windshield at very close range. But the glass stays intact… not even a crack (there is a sticker in the upper corner so we know that glass was in there, and was not shot out). He turns and shoots out the passenger front window and in that case, the glass does shatter. I assume that the shots at the window were blanks and he may have loaded a real shell to shoot the side window.

*And away he goes into the sunset…. meanwhile some people actually believe this crap really happened 🙁

[DaveToo]

Didn't they also attempt to confiscate all the video on 9/11 at the Pentagon?
What was the urgency to do that all about?
Isn't evidence a good thing?

[Flash]

you are right. If you are raised in a multiracial environment, you do not see any difference, even if racially there are (color of skin, hair, etc.).

I think this is the most popular perspective but I don't look at it this way. We are different, just the way it is. Not good or bad, just is.

Obviously we should all be treated equally, but that's another topic.

I was talking of the inner difference strat, like a friend is a friend is a friend, whatever his skin, hair or eye color. We do see the personality differences, the height, the color, almost nobody is blind, but it does not matter when raised in a multicultural multiracial environment.

What counts become the person as such, we are fine with her or not, period.

but, as a side note, we also see their brainwashing if any.

Ex: my mormon friend, in my eyes, has been brainwashed into mormonism. I have a tendency to use catholic talk sometimes because of my upbringing. You still do see this.

Or the sometimes incredible nationalism of American goes on my nerves and they do not even see their own brainwashing in this field of thinking - and when living in Turkey, I realized I did not see my own cultural biases prior to living elsewhere than in French Canada.

This you still all see in your friend, yet, what matter most is whom they are inside.

[Strat]

I was talking of the inner difference strat, like a friend is a friend is a friend, whatever his sking, hair or eye color. We do see the personality differences, the height, the color, almost nobody is blind, but it does not matter when raised in a multicultural multiracial environment.


Ahh, ok gotcha. We're on the same page. I had to post that because of the level of nonsense I deal with often which is usually along the lines of "we are exactly the same in every way and if you say differently then you are a terrible racist."

[gord]

Here's a short video showing cartridges disappearing in mid-air. I have no idea what to make of this, or if it's been addressed here.

Magically Disappearing Cartridges! New Zealand Shooter!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ENADLCPgY

[Hervé]

Here's a short video showing cartridges disappearing in mid-air. I have no idea what to make of this, or if it's been addressed here.
[...]
See this post:


[...]
Yes, the "Frame 313 (http://www.yandex.com/clck/jsredir?bu=84kp&from=www.yandex.com%3Bsearch%2F%3Bweb%3B%3B&text=&etext=2095.lqsJbAB8NJ-52-fBQ5pViMasRLP7g0AeIHyvQyRvEKg.ab32c21c9fa8ef3ea48149668502100053973e5d&uuid=&state=PEtFfuTeVD5kpHnK9lio9fjASLi99Ho0J-ExI57opGF0qqFBd3uq9A,,&&cst=AiuY0DBWFJ5Hyx_fyvalFHmeF5yUXADJDuau-F11TiBSkoa50CEPULqId4zgJ5oq1i7bnmXOFcjqAZl-RXYWk0s77JmTOmUzPh6cTZ6EeEMR6x-VmdrGn12ngADee86kiPQlNZSGnYHWMSORDNSExDGiraTGDeuJLJ9QT5PVMoTR_pZt5YYkz5t5SLZaDTQKwE-uhefIXCQ4k0nNIc7aleY6XR8AOyFq08n_qZcu2GjqoUK93Z0A8r1YY9m5nJMlxgz639PuhbIIGiFe6Q0GYzD5gUbp--8Ov7C51XX43PJOrET7tVaeRQLMmpeQ2Fw6duyhl2biUSMmqSXZCXXX0_0F9aM16LtDPb82fUF_vr6sM5kvgWWLh2BEuGl9wflCVO I-At3AzRsRXkdwMO97Hr5YS4aHzAEjxvKhj1NN66pYDKiJy17ldVC6UjhM8qk9C1WywA2qz5E,&data=UlNrNmk5WktYejR0eWJFYk1Ldmtxc2tjcjhISEd0eThEYlk0OWI5MF9zaU95V1NzVUcweUFReUo2ZU1kMXJxcEJ5RWxHYkN qSWxaM2d1Q2FZQzN2RV9lOUVxaktiMmg1T3pnRi1fd09kS3B2VWllLVN4bkJEdDVoNzRHT1ZSd1VVRUZrSGgxcXl4VnVPMlVkNWd JWHBFcnkwRl9JbTc4UG81SHFRaGlSWk1LVmUxbGM2T0RkNUEsLA,,&sign=951ac32c163f59f888718fafe6fe8461&keyno=0&b64e=2&ref=orjY4mGPRjlSKyJlbRuxUnU39LXnsQVOU9hOXlFVqHKtMG-hplcoM7DbWJmI9bJVKY2CE9xXQJA,&l10n=en&rp=1&cts=1552922148731&mc=1.5219280948873624&hdtime=35193)" in this case seems to be what is called "Movie Continuity (http://colmomurchu.com/?p=154)" in the film industry... the continuity bloopers in the "live stream" are too obvious and many a cat are out of the bag.
[...]The continuity blooper in this case is some 30 spent shells missing on the ground... a strong indication of a CGI scene... although partially masked with the use of unreal video compression distortions in spite of a 4G HD original (GoPro).


See also post #90 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106339-Fatal-shootings-at-Christchurch-Mosques-in-New-Zealand&p=1281764&viewfull=1#post1281764) for a summary of various other continuity bloopers.

[DaveToo]

Here's a short video showing cartridges disappearing in mid-air. I have no idea what to make of this, or if it's been addressed here.
[...]
See this post:

See also post #90 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106339-Fatal-shootings-at-Christchurch-Mosques-in-New-Zealand&p=1281764&viewfull=1#post1281764) for a summary of various other continuity bloopers.

Yes the missing shells are very 'strange' indeed.

What I have yet to hear though, is some sort of explanation as to why they would insert this bogus CGI video into the shooting footage?

Has anyone thought this through yet?
I mean really thought it through?

What was going on, why did they do it, what was the intention?
How much was real, how much CGI etc. etc.?

I'd like to hear your theories please?

[BMJ]

Lisa Haven take on the manifesto after reading the 70 or so pages, it seems it was a very much leftist leaning document as opposed to the extreme right document it is being portrayed as by the MSM.

Meanwhile the tptw were busy scrubbing evidence of the event from the internet so that all we will be left with is their biased official narrative.

Furthermore, the media spin this event into implicating POTUS Trump and thereby further unjustly attacking his character.

XXe5SxB-Olc
Lisa Haven
Published on Mar 18, 2019

[Zanshin]

DaveToo - I would suggest that the 'vanishing brass' footage is more a CGI embellished segment of the video portrayal of
an entirely fabricated event, as opposed to a bogus insert into actual footage.

I take this position for all the 'bloopers' listed in post#90 amongst others.

As to motive for yet another false-flag (whether there were some casualties or not) -
I feel one need look no further than Lisa Haven's vid. above.

The barely contained emotion in her voice as she defends her conservative right position against
a POTUS threatening left indicates to me exactly the sort of divisiveness these events are engineered for.

Here's to always seeking the bigger perspective.

[Matt P]

I just watched the video. I have not read through this thread but now I know why governments are banning the video and penalizing anyone who tries to watch it. It’s as fake as a three dollar bill, so obviously so that I am amazed anyone is taking this seriously. My how these false flags are getting crazier by the day...and most people have lost the capacity to see through the BS.

Matt

[Hervé]

Other fall-outs...


Paul Joseph Watson on the New Zealand mosque attack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXqyq8jD1Sw)

Paul Joseph Watson Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXqyq8jD1Sw)
Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:01 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514761/large/Paul_Joseph_Watson.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514761/full/Paul_Joseph_Watson.jpg)


Paul Joseph Watson is on point in this video, calling out the regressive left for its shameless twisting of the Christchurch, New Zealand mosque attack for their own political ends. The hypocrisy is stunning .


vXqyq8jD1Sw
More from PJW:

Paul Joseph Watson lays it out: ANOTHER STUPID F**KING WAR (https://www.sott.net/article/382730-Paul-Joseph-Watson-lays-it-out-ANOTHER-STUPID-F-KING-WAR)



Paul Joseph Watson: What they are not telling you about the Yellow Vests (https://www.sott.net/article/405366-Paul-Joseph-Watson-What-they-are-not-telling-you-about-the-Yellow-Vests)



Paul Joseph Watson: The truth about Brexit (https://www.sott.net/article/401545-Paul-Joseph-Watson-The-truth-about-Brexit)



Paul Joseph Watson: The Zombie Smartphone Apocalypse (https://www.sott.net/article/396860-Paul-Joseph-Watson-The-Zombie-Smartphone-Apocalypse)



Paul Joseph Watson: The age of emotional incontinence (https://www.sott.net/article/393667-Paul-Joseph-Watson-The-age-of-emotional-incontinence)



Paul Joseph Watson explains the truth about Russia 'Hacking the Election' (https://www.sott.net/article/336556-Paul-Joseph-Watson-explains-the-truth-about-Russia-Hacking-the-Election)

[PurpleLama]

Lisa Haven take on the manifesto after reading the 70 or so pages, it seems it was a very much leftist leaning document as opposed to the extreme right document it is being portrayed as by the MSM.

Meanwhile the tptw were busy scrubbing evidence of the event from the internet so that all we will be left with is their biased official narrative.

Furthermore, the media spin this event into implicating POTUS Trump and thereby further unjustly attacking his character.

XXe5SxB-Olc
Lisa Haven
Published on Mar 18, 2019

Now, I am curious to read this document.

[BMJ]

Here's to always seeking the bigger perspective.

Five Eyes alliance, anyone.

It could be also that the Australian and New Zealand government are scared out of their minds about being implicated in the attempt to rig the 2016 election in favour of Hillary Clinton and against POTUS Trump.

Imagine that the ANZAC's probably one of the closest and longest allies to the US trying to undermine a US election.

All hell is going to break loose here, and the question will be how can we every trust our government again?

And so in a preemptive act the governments will try to censor the internet in advance and control the narrative about the Five eyes story and this act of terrorism would be just the ticket to pass some new more restrictive internet laws.

[BMJ]

Now, I am curious to read this document.

Here it is PurpleLama, links below:

Link, under the title "The Great Replacement":

Link, in ZIP:

P.S. In light of possible illegality of even linking this document I have deleted the above links. See post 116.

[Hervé]

[...]

Five Eyes alliance, anyone.
[...]
And so in a preemptive act the governments will try to censor the internet in advance and control the narrative about the Five eyes story and this act of terrorism would be just the ticket to pass some new more restrictive internet laws.
Well, lookey there: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106393-Global-Corporations-and-the-Orchestration-of---Competitors---Elimination&p=1281844&viewfull=1#post1281844 ... no indepent network allowed...

[Hervé]

ALERT: Brighteon.com video platform under extreme threat from internet infrastructure providers, forced to delete all New Zealand shooting videos, essentially “at gunpoint” by the globalist controllers of the ‘net (https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-03-20-alert-brighteon-com-video-platform-under-extreme-threat.html)

by: Mike Adams (https://www.naturalnews.com/author/healthranger) Natural News
Wednesday, March 20, 2019


https://www.naturalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2019/03/Brighteon-9.jpg


(Natural News (https://www.naturalnews.com)) This is an emergency alert concerning Brighteon.com (http://Brighteon.com), the free speech video platform alternative to YouTube.

I’m writing this at 12:45 am, March 21st. The Brighteon platform is now under extreme threat by upstream infrastructure providers over users posting footage of the New Zealand Christchurch shooting. We are being threatened to remove all the videos or face complete annihilation online, starting with being de-platformed from infrastructure providers, followed by legal action from none other than the nation of Australia (not even New Zealand itself, but Australia and it’s “Office of the eSafety Commissioner.”)

We anticipated this exact scenario many months ago, and we have been feverishly building alternative internal infrastructure to eliminate any dependencies on upstream infrastructure providers, to the extent that such a configuration is possible. However, we are still several months away from completion of that build out phase. Sadly, over the next few hours we are being forced — essential “at gunpoint” (the irony being completely lost of the fascists who now control the ‘net) — to delete all videos containing footage of the New Zealand shooting.

If we refuse to take this action, then ALL the videos on Brighteon will essentially be de-platformed, and none of them will be viewable by the public. The entire website will be annihilated.

Make no mistake: We are facing extreme online fascism, censorship and authoritarian speech police who are exploiting the New Zealand operation to roll out a totalitarian police state across the ‘net. The excuse we are being given is that hosting or sharing the videos is “promoting violence” — an absurd claim on its face. If videos that depict violence are so harmful to the public, then why did the entire mainstream media play the 9/11 twin towers attack videos a million times over, burning the imagery into the minds of the American people? In that attack, over 3,500 Americans died, yet no one claimed that showing the video was promoting violence.

If violent action sequences are “promoting violence,” then why isn’t every Hollywood action movie banned? Why aren’t the million other violent YouTube videos banned? Why is it perfectly acceptable to show video footage of Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich torturing and killing Jews in concentration camps? Have we really reached the point where videos that show Jews being mass murdered are perfectly okay, but videos that show followers of Islam being murdered are criminalized? I thought all genocide was evil, and burying it through censorship is not going to make the hatred go away. If we are to recognize the source of these conflicts and acts of violence, we must be willing to see what actually took place. But today, even viewing certain particular videos is now essentially considered a multi-national crime.

Somehow, this New Zealand shooting video — in which rifle brass disappears mid-air, by the way, like magical ammo — is being invoked to justify the ultimate free speech crackdown across the ‘net. Anyone who dares examine the forensic video evidence, ask intelligent questions about the shooting or question the official narrative is now being threatened with internet-wide de-platforming and possible legal action.

We have reached the state of “total censorship” on the ‘net. This is the beginning of the end of humanity, since no voices, views or opinions that contradict “official narratives” are going to be allowed anywhere online.

As InfoWars also covered earlier today, the next escalation of censorship will involve banning URLs from browsers, meaning Chrome, FireFox, etc. will not even allow you type in “Brighteon.com” or “Infowars.com” or any other site the globalist controllers don’t want you to see. They will use another false flag shooting as justification to ban any URL they want, always in the name of “public safety.”

In truth, globalists believe that anyone who thinks for themselves is a threat to public safety. Therefore, all non-conformists, dissenters, independent thinkers or outspoken voices of truth must be systematically silenced by all the tech giants, including: Google, Apple, Twitter, Amazon, YouTube, Snapchat, Pinterest and others. Together, they now operate a global cabal — an online mafia — that demands absolute obedience to irrational demands.

Sadly, unless either the Trump administration or We the People rise up and overthrow these techno-fascist monstrosities, humanity is now enslaved under absolute online tyranny. No independent thought is allowed from this day forward.

In terms of practical actions, we have been building an “underground” information hub for many months — a new solution that will make content available to human eyes but invisible to all search engines and computer algorithms. Sadly, human truth is going to have to move to “underground” status to evade de-platforming efforts by totalitarian fascists.

I will record a strong video follow-up message in the coming days and post it on Brighteon, unless the internet tyrants annihilate it first. We are working hard to protect free speech, but the globalists are now holding loaded guns at our head and saying they will pull the trigger if we do not comply. For the moment, we are forced to comply in order to save all the other videos on the platform. However, in the long run, we have no intention whatsoever to comply with tyranny and authoritarianism.

– Mike Adams

[DaveToo]

DaveToo - I would suggest that the 'vanishing brass' footage is more a CGI embellished segment of the video portrayal of
an entirely fabricated event, as opposed to a bogus insert into actual footage.

I take this position for all the 'bloopers' listed in post#90 amongst others.

As to motive for yet another false-flag (whether there were some casualties or not) -
I feel one need look no further than Lisa Haven's vid. above.

The barely contained emotion in her voice as she defends her conservative right position against
a POTUS threatening left indicates to me exactly the sort of divisiveness these events are engineered for.

Here's to always seeking the bigger perspective.

Thanks Zanshin.
We can add a few more bullets (pardon the pun) to the list of bullets in post #90.

1. Why in the world would the terrorist stop on a main street, a hundred feet or so from the mosque,
and start shooting dozens of precious rounds at a possible target in the far distance?

To attract attention from passersby on the street?
To deplete his ammunition?

2. Why does his music stop whenever he starts shooting?

3. Why do the corpses look dummy-like?

4. Woman on ground at curb near car, "Help me, help me..."
He shoots her up close. And then a second later "Help me, help me..." AGAIN!!!

Just watched the video again for a second time, today, much more closely than the first time.
It sure looks like a fake to me. Video-game like.
Corpses that look like dummies. No blood from most of 'victims' etc. etc.

[Didgevillage]

I think nobody died there. It's all fake. As Jim Stone points out, the "shooter" is gone back to Israel, where he will never be arrested or even questioned.

Cui bono?

[Hervé]

Some other far outfield fallout:


Bookstore chain removes Jordan Peterson's books from sale after Christchurch attacks (https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111472744/whitcoulls-removes-jordan-petersons-books-from-sale)

Susan Edmunds Stuff (https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111472744/whitcoulls-removes-jordan-petersons-books-from-sale)
Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:30 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514734/large/3689.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514734/full/3689.jpg)
© Mikko Stig/Rex/Shutterstock


Bookstore chain Whitcoulls appears to have stopped selling controversial right-wing author and speaker Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Life amid concerns about "disturbing material" circulating around the Christchurch attacks.

A staff member at Whitcoulls in Albany said it was not available in any stores around the country. She did not know whether that was a permanent move. A search for the book on the chain's website does not return any hits.

Jordan Peterson was pictured with a fan wearing an "I'm a proud Islamophobe" t-shirt during his recent trip to New Zealand. The photo circulated on Twitter in the wake of the Christchurch mosque attacks.

The book contains little reference to Islam but Peterson has previously been criticised for his description of Muhammad as a "warlord".

In an apparent email to a customer shared on Twitter, a representative said that the book was "currently unavailable which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks.

"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time."

Whitcoulls has been approached for comment, but has not so far confirmed the email, or their stance.

Jess Berentson-Shaw, of thinktank The Workshop, said it was positive if businesses in New Zealand were showing that they valued an inclusive society "and are prepared to follow that through".

There is still a listing on the Whitcoulls website for people to order Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.


Related:


Jordan Peterson's '12 Rules for Life: A compass for the lost (https://www.sott.net/article/378156-Jordan-Petersons-12-Rules-for-Life-A-compass-for-the-lost)
NewsReal #30: Christchurch Massacre - Don't Fall For The Manipulation (https://www.sott.net/article/409377-NewsReal-30-Christchurch-Massacre-Dont-Fall-For-The-Manipulation)

======================================================


"They" (orchestra + conductor + sponsors) really don't like him because "they" hate his message to individuals... reminds me of that Ukrainian concert pianist (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81350-When-Money-Plays-Harp...-errr...&p=994571&viewfull=1#post994571) being shunt...

[Flash]

Some other far outfield fallout:


Bookstore chain removes Jordan Peterson's books from sale after Christchurch attacks (https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111472744/whitcoulls-removes-jordan-petersons-books-from-sale)

Susan Edmunds Stuff (https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111472744/whitcoulls-removes-jordan-petersons-books-from-sale)
Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:30 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514734/large/3689.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514734/full/3689.jpg)
© Mikko Stig/Rex/Shutterstock


Bookstore chain Whitcoulls appears to have stopped selling controversial right-wing author and speaker Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Life amid concerns about "disturbing material" circulating around the Christchurch attacks.

A staff member at Whitcoulls in Albany said it was not available in any stores around the country. She did not know whether that was a permanent move. A search for the book on the chain's website does not return any hits.

Jordan Peterson was pictured with a fan wearing an "I'm a proud Islamophobe" t-shirt during his recent trip to New Zealand. The photo circulated on Twitter in the wake of the Christchurch mosque attacks.

The book contains little reference to Islam but Peterson has previously been criticised for his description of Muhammad as a "warlord".

In an apparent email to a customer shared on Twitter, a representative said that the book was "currently unavailable which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks.

"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time."

Whitcoulls has been approached for comment, but has not so far confirmed the email, or their stance.

Jess Berentson-Shaw, of thinktank The Workshop, said it was positive if businesses in New Zealand were showing that they valued an inclusive society "and are prepared to follow that through".

There is still a listing on the Whitcoulls website for people to order Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.


Related:


Jordan Peterson's '12 Rules for Life: A compass for the lost (https://www.sott.net/article/378156-Jordan-Petersons-12-Rules-for-Life-A-compass-for-the-lost)
NewsReal #30: Christchurch Massacre - Don't Fall For The Manipulation (https://www.sott.net/article/409377-NewsReal-30-Christchurch-Massacre-Dont-Fall-For-The-Manipulation)

======================================================


"They" (orchestra + conductor + sponsors) really don't like him because "they" hate his message to individuals... reminds me of that Ukrainian concert pianist (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81350-When-Money-Plays-Harp...-errr...&p=994571&viewfull=1#post994571) being shunt...

WHAT!!!

This is nut.

I hope Russia will come to our help for freedom of information and opinion - this is absolutely terrible to have to rely on a country like Russia for freedom of opinion.

I like the guy, he is a straight shooter, no manipulations from his side. He is fighting the manipulations of all kinds.

Incredible.

12 rules for becoming responsible is banned!!!!

And Mohamed WAS a warlord, it is written all through the Kuran for Allah's sake.

We are in Idiocracy society, no doubts.

[Hervé]

Orchestration ---> orchestra ---> conductor ---> sponsors...


France: 12 churches attacked, vandalized in a week (https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/03/20/twelve-french-churches-attacked-vandalized-in-one-week/)

Thomas D. Williams Breitbart (https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/03/20/twelve-french-churches-attacked-vandalized-in-one-week/)
Fri, 22 Mar 2019 02:47 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514266/large/5c8e5e5fdda4c87e1b8b4652.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s25/514266/full/5c8e5e5fdda4c87e1b8b4652.jpg)
A screenshot from footage shot inside the church © Twitter / Stephane Larue


A dozen Catholic churches have been desecrated across France over the period of one week in an egregious case of anti-Christian vandalism.

The recent spate (https://www.courrierinternational.com/article/vu-despagne-une-vague-de-profanations-deglises-en-france) of church profanations has puzzled both police and ecclesiastical leaders, who have mostly remained silent as the violations have spread up and down France.

Last Sunday, marauders set fire to the church of Saint-Sulpice - one of Paris' largest and most important churches - shortly after the twelve-o'clock Mass.

Police have concluded (http://www.evangeliques.info/articles/1970/01/01/france-incendie-de-l-eglise-saint-sulpice-les-enqueteurs-privilegient-la-piste-criminelle-19683.html) that the fire was the result of arson and are now looking for possible suspects. The restoration of the church from the damage caused by the fire will reportedly cost several hundred million euros.

In Nimes (department of the Gard), near the border with Spain, the church of Notre-Dame des Enfants was desecrated in a particularly odious way, with vandals painting a cross with human excrement, looting the main altar and the tabernacle, and stealing the consecrated hosts, which were discovered later among piles of garbage.

Likewise, the church of Notre-Dame in Dijon, in the east of the country, suffered the sacking of the high altar and the hosts were also taken from the tabernacle, scattered on the ground, and trampled.

In Lavaur, in the southern department of the Tarn, the village church was assaulted by young men, who twisted one arm of a representation of the crucified Christ to make it appear that he was making an obscene gesture.

In the peripheries of Paris, in the department of Yvelines, several churches have suffered profanations of varying importance, in Maisons-Laffitte and in Houilles.

Although commentators have been reluctant to attach a particular religious or cultural origin to the profanations, they all share an evident anti-Christian character.

In recent months, anti-Semitic gangs have desecrated Jewish cemeteries, signing their actions with swastikas. In the case of the desecration of Catholic churches, the vandalism has spoken for itself: ridicule of the figure of Christ on the cross and desecration of major altars.

The Catholic hierarchy has kept silent about the episodes, limited themselves to highlighting that anti-Christian threat and expressing hope that politicians and police will get to the bottom of the crimes.

Reports indicate (http://www.libertepolitique.com/Actualite/Decryptage/Face-a-la-vague-de-profanations-qui-s-abat-sur-la-France-pourquoi-SPERO) that 80 percent of the desecration of places of worship in France concerns Christian churches and in the year 2018 this meant the profanation of an average of two Christian churches per day in France, even though these actions rarely make the headlines.

In 2018, the Ministry of the Interior recorded 541 anti-Semitic acts, 100 anti-Muslim acts, and 1063 anti-Christian acts.

======================================================


Well, somebody wrote this (at least in the last century if not in the one before last):
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

[sigma6]

They're taking down these videos as fast as users put them up, even though there is no actual violence shown in the clip... Mike Adams said he was essentially threatened at gunpoint and forced to remove this from his site...


Shell Casings Disappear CGI Editing Proof Christchurch, NZ Shooting Was A False Flag
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[sigma6]

.
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Ole Dammegard & Alfred Lambremont Webre Ask You To Question The Christchurch Event
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[Hervé]

They're taking down these videos as fast as users put them up, even though there is no actual violence shown in the clip... Mike Adams said he was essentially threatened at gunpoint and forced to remove this from his site...
[...]
Hi sigma6, I merged your recently posted thread with this pre-existing one on the same subject.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Kiwis don't seem to be too keen on handing over their firearms willingly:


Out of an estimated 1.2 million registered guns, New Zealand police report that as of Tuesday night, 37 firearms have been surrendered nationwide, according to BuzzFeed.

No accounting was provided of how many people owned those guns, the types of firearms, or where they were surrendered.

The reports of citizens disarming themselves came after a Monday announcement by Prime minister Jacinda Ardern that several "in principle decisions" on gun control have been made by Cabinet ministers, while praising residents who have surrendered their guns to police.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-20/after-multiple-reports-about-new-zealanders-turning-guns-guess-how-many-actually

Of course, they are citing Buzzfeed, so who knows how accurate this report actually is. But if it is accurate, then it is similar to numbers seen in New Jersey when they tried to ban certain firearms by asking citizens to turn them over willingly.

Florida also tried to enact a law taking guns away from veterans with PTSD, etc., but last I heard about that, they went door-to-door about 4 or 5 times before the first fatal shoot-out occurred. In other words, the police don't have enough men to take all the guns back, at least in Florida. We'll see how New Zealanders feel about this.


Had a laugh about this one:


Police slam fake firearm hand-in forms

Police are seething as the new firearms laws bring with it a host of not-so-funny practical jokers.

Some members of the public are clearly unhappy about the law change, which bans military style semi-automatic firearms and asks for anyone in possession of such a weapon to hand it in to police.

"Some people have decided it is a good use of their time to misuse the form and submit 'fake' notifications to hand in weapons," said Assistant Commissioner Tusha Penny in a statement.

"While these individuals may be short of productive work to do, police are not. In the current environment this is unacceptable," she continued.

"These vexatious forms are a huge waste of police time and resources which could be put to better use."

On Thursday, police set up an 0800 number dedicated to firearm changes, which has proven to be in high demand.

The number received 474 calls by 11am - at one point, 127 people called within the space of one hour.

Over a thousand people have contacted police to hand in their firearms. Currently, an amnesty is in place that allows people to surrender their guns without legal action against them.

The amnesty period will run until further notice.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/03/police-slam-fake-firearm-hand-in-forms.html


New Zealand police put a form online for people wanting to turn in their firearms. The chans instantly seized on the opportunity and spammed them with tons of fake form submissions.

Examples:

https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1104-3.jpg

https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1103.5-540x700.jpg

https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1106-493x700.png

http://magaimg.net/img/7jsv.jpg

https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1105-496x700.png

https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1119.png

"Police are seething..." :ROFL:

They already changed the settings so that only people with NZ IPs can submit a form, but channers were using VPNs already, so I'm not sure how much difference that will make.

This is even better than people reporting fake "hate crimes" to British police chat rooms.

Supposedly, the text field for "accessories" can accept a full gigabyte of text data, so...


New Zealand Police Forced to Shut Down Gun Confiscation Website Due to DoS Attack

And some folks say gun owners don’t have a rebellious streak in them. With less than 24 hours, the NZ Police was forced to shut down their gun confiscation website due to massive amounts of online trolling.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/03/luis-valdes/new-zealand-police-forced-shut-down-confiscation-website-due-to-dos-attack/

[ThePythonicCow]

Miles Mathis has a detailed, 29 page analysis from a guest writer, Uncle Owen. He posted the paper on his usual page, http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html. The paper itself is a 29 page pdf, which can be found at http://mileswmathis.com/xchurch.pdf .

Miles guest writer, and Miles himself, find a long list of inconsistencies in the event, and conclude that this was a big time scam.

The primary discussion of this event is on the 4chan thread https://8ch.net/pol/res/12922726.html -- Beware that moderation standards on 4chan are ... well more or less non-existent by design. There are several links to the video on that thread, most of which are no longer valid, as the video keeps being taken down, and then reuploaded by someone else.

[BMJ]

No surprises, the manifesto is now considered illegal in New Zealand, I imagine Australia will follow suite.


New Zealand bans terror suspect's racist manifesto; citizens told to 'destroy any copies'

New Zealand's government on Saturday banned a racist, angry manifesto written by the suspected gunman of two recent mosque shootings in Christchurch that killed 50 people, arguing that the 74-page document "promotes murder and terrorism."

New Zealand's Office of Film and Literature Classification issued a statement officially classifying the manifesto – titled "The Great Replacement" and authored by the alleged 28-year-old shooter – "objectionable" under the country's law.

“There is an important distinction to be made between ‘hate speech’, which may be rejected by many right-thinking people but which is legal to express, and this type of publication, which is deliberately constructed to inspire further murder and terrorism," New Zealand's Chief Censor David Shanks said in a statement.

“It crosses the line.”

The alleged gunman, a self-described white supremacist, is accused of fatally shooting 50 people on March 15 in a rampage in two mosques that he live video-recorded on a helmet he wore. He linked the manifesto on his Twitter account and mailed a copy to the office of New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.

The country's government banned the reported gunman's 17-minute video earlier in the week as well as semi-automatic rifles.

Officials say both the manifesto and video qualify as objectionable under a 1993 New Zealand law that gives the government discretion to ban certain materials for the public good.

An objectionable classification in this particular case is considered to be a justifiable limit on freedom of expression under New Zealand's Bill of Rights.

The suspect's manifesto consists of a rant about white genocide and advocates for "an atmosphere of fear” against Muslims. He describes himself as an ethno-nationalist and fascist and pays homage to other racist killers such as Dylann Roof, who shot and killed nine African-Americans in a church in Charleston, South Carolina. He says in the manifesto that the plot in New Zealand was two years in the making.

“It promotes, encourages and justifies acts of murder and terrorist violence against identified groups of people, ” Shanks said.

“It identifies specific places for potential attack in New Zealand, and refers to the means by which other types of attack may be carried out. It contains justifications for acts of tremendous cruelty, such as the deliberate killing of children.”

Violent terrorist: Who is the white supremacist suspected in New Zealand mosque shootings?

Under the New Zealand law, it is considered an offense to "posses or distribute" objectionable materials such as the manifesto. People who have downloaded the document, or printed it out, should "destroy any copies," officials said.

"New Zealanders can all play a part in denying those who exhort hatred, killing and terror. If you have a copy of this publication, delete or destroy it," Shanks said. "If you see it, report it. Do not support the murderous objectives of its author by republishing or distributing it.”

The manifesto has been widely reported by media, meaning some New Zealanders are likely to have read portions of it even if they have not seen a first-hand copy.

Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/03/23/new-zealand-mosque-shooting-country-bans-terror-suspects-manifesto/3254937002/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[BMJ]

Bookstore chain Whitcoulls appears to have stopped selling controversial right-wing author and speaker Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Life amid concerns about "disturbing material" circulating around the Christchurch attacks.




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[ThePythonicCow]

Jim Stone (http://jimstone.is) points out a continuity error in the filming of the shootings at Christchurch:

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I can now shamelessly and without question state the Christchurch shooting was fake
The video was either done in multiple takes, or was created by an AI that screwed up. The mosque may or may not even be real. It is THAT BAD. I'll try to log in later to upload the most damning evidence yet, but for now I will embed it from elsewhere.

In the video, a man was laying in the hallway, not wearing socks. The shooter runs past him to "get his other gun." On the way back in the same victim is laying in approximately the same position (everyone moved a little, but it is obviously at least trying to be the same scene AND THE SAME VICTIM IS WEARING BLUE SOCKS. Not possible if he really is dead on the floor.

FOLKS, THIS IS WHY THE VIDEO IS BANNED, AND IS A CRIME TO HAVE IN NEW ZEALAND - IT HAS CONTINUITY PROBLEMS EITHER INTRODUCED BY AN AI THAT DID NOT REMEMBER IT ALL, OR CAUSED BY DOING THE VIDEO IN MORE THAN ONE TAKE. HERE IS A PROBLEM NO ONE CAN ARGUE, THAT BY ITSELF PROVES THIS SHOOTING DID NOT HAPPEN:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Christchurch_New_Zealand_Jim_Stone.jpg

This image is hosted by the enemy, posted by the "good guys" where the enemy can remove it. So save it just in case it vanishes before I actually log in to host it from here. This error on the part of the production crew is in the original video also. GAME OVER, I know there are over a thousand people from NZ who read this site and I suggest they print this ASAP and start showing it to people, along with a clear explanation as to what is going on. NZ is getting REAMED by this shooting, Clinton&Co need a safe place to set up a new fiefdom and unfortunately NZ was all too willing to allow this to happen. Now I believe Podesta really was there helping to stage this and that the video was a complete production that was simply played as a "live stream" after the final cut.
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[Hervé]

Jim Stone (http://jimstone.is) points out a continuity error in the filming of the shootings at Christchurch:
[...]
Yes: see post # 81 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106339-Fatal-shootings-at-Christchurch-Mosques-in-New-Zealand&p=1281650&viewfull=1#post1281650) and lists of continuity bloopers in posts # 90 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106339-Fatal-shootings-at-Christchurch-Mosques-in-New-Zealand&p=1281764&viewfull=1#post1281764) and #106 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106339-Fatal-shootings-at-Christchurch-Mosques-in-New-Zealand&p=1282034&viewfull=1#post1282034).

[A Voice from the Mountains]

There are some other videos circulating showing the "aftermath" of the attack and it's totally bizarre. Very little blood to be seen anywhere (especially compared to real murder scenes, which I notice some law enforcement officers have been kind of enough to post on 8chan), and people sitting up looking around one minute, then acting as if they're dead, then getting up and bumbling out the door, all while a bunch of people are buzzing around mumbling to each other. And virtually no blood.

It looks to me like crisis acting is a veritable industry these days.

Btw none of these videos survive on YouTube, but I did manage to download one from some obscure video site. If anyone wants a link I can dig around and find it again. Trying to find anything on YouTube is useless.

[Hughe]

If it was a real accident, why the governments are trying so hard to remove the shooter video on Internet?

http://support.brighteon.com/Brighteon-Update-Emergency-Message.html

[sms]

Jim Stone might be spot on with the "missing shoes". If you go to a mosque where a prayer takes a place, the first thing you would see, it would be a lot of shoes at the entry doors. When I was a kid, living in Bosnia, we used to make a fun by mixing up the shoes people left outside a mosque. Later, after the end of the prayer, we would watch all the confusion from a safe distance and laugh, when people were trying to find and match their shoes. I have not watched the whole video, just some fragments, however, if the shoes were really missing, then it would be a fake. The people escaping the shooting, would be barefoot, as well, as they would not think about collecting their shoes, on such an instance.

[Flash]

One thing nobody has brought up yet is that showing pictures or drawings of human beings is strictly forbidden in Islam. Most Muslim will not obey this on a daily basis, but they will definitely obey it in a burial or death time.

Even in parties not that many pictures are taken - just tells you. They are taken for weddings on average, and kept. Other pics would not be kept. For example, I do not remember seeing a photo album in a Muslim home.

Once again this is not respected usually, but definitely is for burials.

So all Imams on the planet will have asked the videos to be removed from the internet - mostly if any pictures are taken from the videos.

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now, we understand that when ISIS is beheading someone and film it and send pic of it all over the world, in the Muslim world it is an unimaginable insult to the dead and to the western world. But it does not matter hey, this is jihad and the enemy does not deserve any respect.

Same every time a pic is taken from an Islam foreigner in 'compromising' situations and is published.

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Now, American army did the same, and they knew very well what they were doing, by burying Ben Laden in the sea. Burying someone in the sea is one of the greatest sin and insult a Muslim or non Muslim can do. This was noticed by all the Muslim world throughout the planet. We call that putting oil on the fire.

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Children playing war. On both side. This leads you to get in complete despair about the faith of humanity.

[BMJ]

Whilst across the pond the ripples are being felt, as the take down of opposition to the two big political parties begins.

Watch out Clive Palmer and United Australia Party your sure to be on the short list.

Key points:
One Nation staffers were secretly recorded seeking foreign political donations
Politicians are demanding answers from One Nation leader Pauline Hanson
They also want Ms Hanson to state her position on weakening gun laws

(Australian) Pauline Hanson and One Nation slammed over talks with NRA, James Ashby and Steve Dickson claim they were set up

Senior One Nation officials are in damage control after the release of footage showing them soliciting political donations from powerful American gun lobbyists.

Fronting a media scrum in Brisbane today, James Ashby and Steve Dickson said they had "had a few drinks" and claimed they were set up by a "secret agent" from the Middle East.

The secret recordings of the pair reveal they wanted millions of dollars in political donations from America's National Rifle Association (NRA) and discussed softening One Nation policies on gun ownership as they tried to secure the funding.

The vision was broadcast as part of an undercover Al Jazeera investigation which involved setting up a fake gun lobby group called Gun Rights Australia headed by a fake gun rights advocate, Rodger Muller.

"Rodger Muller had organised these meetings. This was a deliberate set-up by the Qatari government under Al Jazeera," Mr Ashby said.

"He set these meetings up. This is skulduggery at its worst. This is the very first time Australia has witnessed political interference from a foreign government."

Mr Dickson added: "I never, ever, ever suspected in my wildest dreams that this guy was employed by a Middle Eastern country, by Al Jazeera, as an Australian spy to interfere in Australian politics."

Mr Ashby said party leader Pauline Hanson was unwell and unable to respond to media inquiries, despite calls from politicians for her to reveal what she knew about the meetings.

In one of the recordings, Mr Dickson was recorded telling representatives of Koch Industries that One Nation could "change the voting system" if the party had more funding.

In a separate recording, Mr Ashby and Mr Dickson discussed wanting up to $20 million from the US lobby groups.

"The conversations that have been recorded where there is a talk of $10-20 million, I will be the first to admit, we'd arrived in America, we got on the sauce, we'd had a few drinks and that's where those discussions took place, not with any potential donors, no-one but Rodger Muller, Steve Dickson and myself," Mr Ashby said.

Link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-26/pauline-hanson-one-nation-slammed-gun-laws-and-foreign-donations/10939140


One Nation staffers say they're the victims of a Qatari spy plot


One Nation officials James Ashby and Steve Dickson say they were set up by a "secret agent" from the Middle East after recordings emerged of them soliciting donations from the US gun lobby.

Link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-26/one-nation-staffers-say-theyre-victim-of-qatari-spy/10942388

Pauline Hanson's One Nation in damage control over talks with US gun lobbyists | ABC News
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ABC News (Australia)
Published on Mar 26, 2019
One Nation's image is taking a battering after undercover video aired showing senior party figures seeking millions of dollars in funding from US gun lobby groups to help loosen Australia's tough firearms laws.
The meetings took place just weeks before the Australian parliament voted to ban foreign donations to political parties.
The revelations and footage are part of a three year sting by the Al Jazeera investigative unit.

[BMJ]

If it was a real accident, why the governments are trying so hard to remove the shooter video on Internet?

http://support.brighteon.com/Brighteon-Update-Emergency-Message.html

It may have been a real event, but according to all the analyse so far the 17 minute video has more holes than swiss cheese, for example:
- the disappearing spent brass shell casings (Post 94);
- the hallway socks on socks off incident (Post 118), and
- according to AVFTM crisis actors picking them self up and walking around after being shot at the scene(Post 120).

After the expected public emotional high and expected government quick reaction to ban semi automatic rifles, now the rush is on to get ride of all the evidence hence banning all copies of the video and manifesto.

For the tptw problem solved.

Similarly to Australia at the Port Arthur massacre and it's aftermath, we now have tighter gun control in New Zealand.

[Flash]

If it was a real accident, why the governments are trying so hard to remove the shooter video on Internet?

http://support.brighteon.com/Brighteon-Update-Emergency-Message.html

It may have been a real event, but according to all the analyse so far the 17 minute video has more holes than swiss cheese, for example:
- the disappearing spent brass shell casings;
- the hallway socks on socks off incident, and
- according to AVFTM crisis actors picking them self up and walking around after being shot at the scene.

After the expected emotional high and expected quick reaction to ban semi automatic now the rush is on to get ride of all the evidence, hence banning all copies of the video and manifesto.

For the tptw problem solved.

Similarly to Australia at the Port Arthur massacre and it's aftermath we now have tighter gun control in New Zealand.

Three things are sure:

1. the internet is being heavily censored all around with all the possible means governing bodies have - Muslim or not, pics taken or not.

2. the anti arm campaigns beat all records.

3. the internet is actually sooooo polluted by stupid people willfully creating all kinds of wrong stories (forget the planted ones which exist, the amount of ordinary people doing the same by stupidity or malice is astonishing) that we do not know what to believe anymore. Confusion is king, and the masters knew it, they could rely on ordinary human beings to do their job.

[Zanshin]

Almost 23yrs since the Port Arthur massacre - arguably one of the first of the current swathe of
gun-stripping false-flag events.

An article here implicating mossad involvement (I read Joe Vialls book amongst other publications back then,
unaware of his 'spook' connections) -

http://thedarktruth.org/2016/03/09/port-arthur-massacre-mossad-operation/thedarktruth.org/2016/03/09/port-arthur-massacre-mossad-operation/

[Zanshin]

Another article by Joe Vialls (now deceased) about the Bali Bombing.

http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Micro-Nuke-Used-in-Bali-Terrorist-Lookalike-Attack-Zionists-forcing-Australian-support-for-American-war-on-Iraq.shtml

At a time when The U.S. under Bush junior was pressuring Australia to commit troops to the post 911 invasion of the middle east,
Australia's prime minister was a sawn-off, deep-state vassal named John Howard who was vacillating over committing Aussie troops
to the cause amid public concern that the nation had no cause to go beating on innocent arabs on the far side of the globe.

The mossad/cia/asio have also been implicated in the Bali bombing which, conveniently for little Johnny and George, swayed the
opinion of the nation, aided by copious doses of nationalistic media propoganda.
The first 'official' troop deployments to the middle east occurred soon after (no doubt the special forces teams were already there)

[Praxis]

One thing nobody has brought up yet is that showing pictures or drawings of human beings is strictly forbidden in Islam. Most Muslim will not obey this on a daily basis, but they will definitely obey it in a burial or death time.

Even in parties not that many pictures are taken - just tells you. They are taken for weddings on average, and kept. Other pics would not be kept. For example, I do not remember seeing a photo album in a Muslim home.

Once again this is not respected usually, but definitely is for burials.

So all Imams on the planet will have asked the videos to be removed from the internet - mostly if any pictures are taken from the videos.

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now, we understand that when ISIS is beheading someone and film it and send pic of it all over the world, in the Muslim world it is an unimaginable insult to the dead and to the western world. But it does not matter hey, this is jihad and the enemy does not deserve any respect.

Same every time a pic is taken from an Islam foreigner in 'compromising' situations and is published.

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Now, American army did the same, and they knew very well what they were doing, by burying Ben Laden in the sea. Burying someone in the sea is one of the greatest sin and insult a Muslim or non Muslim can do. This was noticed by all the Muslim world throughout the planet. We call that putting oil on the fire.

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Children playing war. On both side. This leads you to get in complete despair about the faith of humanity.

So if I recall correctly, it is actually only technically the Prophet Mohammad that is the one that is not supposed to be depicted lest it become a false idol.

And in fact, it is not Quranic that this prohibition is made but rather is Haditha( meaning it came from Mohammed or his actions and not given from God as the Qu ran was, accordingly to muslim Theology).

As you can actually find pictures of him:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad#/media/File:Mohammed_receiving_revelation_from_the_angel_Gabriel.jpg

and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad#/media/File:Maome.jpg


But most of the time they started to do things like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad#/media/File:The_Prophet_Muhammad_and_the_Muslim_Army_at_the_Battle_of_Uhud,_from_the_Siyer-i_Nebi,_1595.jpg



Yes, there are hardcore( like orthodox Christian and jews do the same) muslims( Salafist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement), Wahhabi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism)) that do not allow pictures of all humans, and actually playing music is haram for some of these people as well( this is why muslim music is sometimes only voices because the instruments and music they produce are sinful, from their point of view of course).

You can see an example of what I am talking about here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl1ETcUw-Q0 Which really is a shame because they should focus on just making music cause they clearly have talent in music. Very gregorian chantish. Their message is repulsive and they are horrible people but they can compose music, so they are basically the katy perry of ultra conservative muslims.


Now, lets talk about Muslims burial procedure.

As far as I am aware, the Army followed all proper protocol for when "they buried Bin laden". First, I am of the opinion that Bin laden was not killed in Pakistan by seal team 6 under an Operation under the Obama admin. So with that out of the way, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_funeral.

Whoever they buried at sea, I believe they filmed them doing what is necessary. Now first it should be noted that these are general guidelines and not strict hardfast rules and they do vary by custom and culture. You may or may not be aware that Indonesian muslims and Saudi muslims have a great deal of difference between them in how they practice. These are small and outsiders who are not versed in islam may not notice(much like how protestants may not understand when the when there are quarrels between Eastern Orthodox Christians and Oriental Orthodox Christians).


So as long as they: Cleaned the body, wrapped it in a white linen cloth, said a prayer, buried the body(facing Mecca as much as possible), then they did what was required.

That wiki is quite informative about circumstances in which proper protocol was broken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uhud


Also, for the ultra conservative muslims, killing kafir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir)(an infidel)

Which I will quote at more length :

"The distinction between those who believe in Islam and those who do not is an essential one in the Quran. Kafir, and its plural kuffaar, is used directly 134 times in Quran, its verbal noun "kufr" is used 37 times, and the verbal cognates of kafir are used about 250 times.[24]

By extension of the basic meaning of the root, "to cover", the term is used in the Quran in the senses of ignore/fail to acknowledge and to spurn/be ungrateful.[25] The meaning of "disbelief", which has come to be regarded as primary, retains all of these connotations in the Quranic usage.[25] In the Quranic discourse, the term typifies all things that are unacceptable and offensive to God.[7] The most fundamental sense of kufr in the Quran is "ingratitude", the willful refusal to acknowledge or appreciate the benefits that God bestows on humankind, including clear signs and revealed scriptures.[7]

According to the E. J. Brill's First Encyclopaedia of Islam, 1913–1936, Volume 4, the term first applied in the Quran to unbelieving Meccans, who endeavoured "to refute and revile the Prophet". A waiting attitude towards the kafir was recommended at first for Muslims; later, Muslims were ordered to keep apart from unbelievers and defend themselves against their attacks and even take the offensive.[14] Most passages in the Quran referring to unbelievers in general talk about their fate on the day of judgement and destination in hell.[14]

According to scholar Marilyn Waldman, as the Quran "progresses" (as the reader goes from the verses revealed first to later ones), the meaning behind the term kafir does not change but "progresses", i.e. "accumulates meaning over time". As the Islamic Prophet Muhammad's views of his opponents change, his use of kafir "undergoes a development". Kafir moves from being one description of Muhammad's opponents to the primary one. Later in the Quran, kafir becomes more and more connected with shirk. Finally, towards the end of the Quran, kafir begins to also signify the group of people to be fought by the mu'minīn (believers).[26] "


So you will note that generally it is a wait for god to judge them when that day comes type of attitude(see. holier than thou) but, and here is the critical part, "defend themselves against their attacks and even take the offensive".

The ISIS member would make long eloquent arguments about western imperialism, the sykes picot agreement, crusades, and finish with Israel. They would be generally correct in there representation of history and therefore find themselves justified as they are being attacked. The beheading of kafir is not offensive to the ummah(muslim community) that is under siege(from their point of view see. Palestinian Occupation), it is celebrated.

Again, this is from their point of view which I personally find repugnant and infantile. I believe if someone kills someone over religious belief then they do not understand god.
If the god wants someone to do so, then it is not really god but something pretending to be.



The final thought I want to put here is in regards to "all imams".

Sunni and Shia is a thing, as you are probably aware. But there is also Sufi, and other subclasses of Sunni, of which I have mentioned, but also Shia( Twelver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver_Shia), Isma'ilism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isma%27ilism) ). And while One branch of Shia does the self flagellation thing on a certain holiday, not all of them do(just as not all catholics are like the Opus dei (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei).

In Oman they have their own version of islam called Ibadism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadi). There are also Alevism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevism)and Alawites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites)(which you have probably heard because Bashar Al Assad, the Syrian dude, is one of them.


So saying all imams is like saying all Priests and thinking that Catholics and southern baptists are singing the same tune.

[Flash]

Praxis, you are absolutely right in your specifications. Except for the fact that I have seen very few photo albums in Muslim houses, having lived in a Muslim country.

I went superficially because most people here in America do not know anything about Islam, fundamentalist or not.

To thanks for the additions or / and specifications.

However, for burial at sea, it is usually the American who say bin laden burial was follwoing Muslim customs,not the Muslims


But some Islamic scholars and clerics were divided Monday over whether the sea burial was appropriate or an insult to Muslims. Several said Bin Laden should have been buried on land in a simple grave. The sea burial, off an American aircraft carrier in the North Arabian Sea, added an ambiguous coda to a life that had been clouded in secrecy over the past decade.https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/world/asia/03burial.html

Usually Muslim should be buried in the ground with many specified ways of doing it, if the body can be brought back on the ground before rotting.

But it does not truly matter, suffice is to say that the way the American did it insulted the Muslim world.

To me, those are children games, revenge included .


Mohammed al-Qubaisi, Dubai's grand mufti, said of Bin Laden's burial: "They can say they buried him at sea, but they cannot say they did it according to Islam. Sea burials are permissible for Muslims in extraordinary circumstances. This is not one of them."

Abdul-Sattar al-Janabi, who preaches at Baghdad's Abu Hanifa mosque, said: "What was done by the Americans is forbidden by Islam and might provoke some Muslims.

"It is not acceptable and it is almost a crime to throw the body of a Muslim man into the sea. The body of Bin Laden should have been handed over to his family to look for a country to bury him."https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/02/sea-burial-osama-bin-laden

[BMJ]

Thanks to the X22 Report for this find see Episode 1825B. It seems that maybe the outcome of the New Zealand false flag was part of the preparation for the cabals move to their Alamo.

Hopefully New Zealand will send them back to the US on the GITMO express for a well deserved R&R in the Cuban resort of the same name.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg: If Trump wins, time to move to New Zealand
Quote:
In an interview with The New York Times published Sunday, the Supreme Court justice said her husband, who died in 2010, would have said, “‘Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand.’”

Link: https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/287179-ruth-bader-ginsberg-if-trump-wins-time-to-move-to-new

P.S. Unfortunately no matter where the cabal hide they still will not be able to move far enough away from the hand of justice.

[BMJ]

This video by thecrowhouse suggests the gunman was not alone and provides evidence to back his position.


What They Don't Want You to See in the NZ Mosque Shooting Video

The real reason the Christchurch Shooting video is banned is that it clearly shows that the Christchurch Massacre was a Black Op The shooter was not alone…

He had help And you can see them…

This completely destroys their official “Lone Wolf Terrible Racist White Man” Narrative And THIS is what they do NOT want you to see…

3:06 minutes in… he pulls over, kills audio and says something to the camera. He then waits roadside one full minute and then..

4:08 minutes in… The person in red walks past… He then switches on the strobe light on the gun

Handler?

5:00 minutes in… Man in red at the driveway entrance

8:48 minutes in… He leaves the Mosque for the first time. Car… man inside? He aims but doesn’t shoot…

Handler?

8:54 minutes in… Traffic cone in the driveway

Runs to the front takes out an escapee down the footpath, runs back to his car to get another gun. Runs to end driveway to take out a second escapee… returns to Mosque

The car is gone … ??? 11:48 minutes in… leaving mosque for the second time… shoots woman escapee… Note empty yard wall on left

11:50 minutes in… Cone has been knocked over by exiting the vehicle

11:54 minutes in… Man in red against yard wall How did he get here so quickly?

Question… Who owns this car?

4:34 and this frame right here… is why they do not want you to see this video Do you know this license plate? Seems to read FOH 875.

This is why people in New Zealand can get 10 years jail for even watching it.

_TSum0TG75M

thecrowhouse

Published on Mar 24, 2019
No further explanation Required.


P.S. THE VIDEO HAS BEEN REMOVED BY YOUTUBE.

[Praxis]

Flash,

I am glad you pointed out that there was discussion about whether the sea burial was ok or not, as it shows that Muslims are not a monolith just as christians are not(can you imagine being a christian and then being judged based on the action and members of the catholic church? or someone how worse the WestBoro Baptist church?)

For me, the burial at sea was solving the practical matter of the fact that it wasnt actually Osama Bin Laden that they killed and dumped in the ocean.

The sea burial was a solution to that problem. You cant claim to kill the most wanted person on the planet, say you have his body, then refuse to show people it. It wouldnt have worked.

Childrens games are supporting Wahabbi fanatics in crushing people they view as Kafir, Yemen,(if you think Wahabbi do not like non muslims, they like the wrong kind of muslim worse) because we like their oil and tactical position in the region and we like that they hate someone we happen to hate(Iran) because Iran stopped the colonization of their country. (Btw **** the government of Iran, I am not a supporter of theirs in the slightest)

[BMJ]

Regarding the question of whether or not the video was in part CGI.

Dr. Eowyn, How we know New Zealand mosque shooting video is a CGI fake

Quote:
(1) When shot, people don’t just fall like inert sacks of potatoes
In an audio interview and on James Fetzer’s blog, Dr. Scott Bennett, former U.S. Army psychological operations officer and State Department counterterrorism contractor, points out that in a real shooting with real bullets, especially when civilians are shot, they would be in a state of hysterical, emotional shock. Panic-stricken, their bodies flooded with adrenalin, they would violently flail, run or crawl away. They do not simply fold up and fall to the ground like sacks of potatoes.

(2) Shell Casings vanish into thin air
At the 8:56 mark in the video, the gunman is outside the mosque’s front gate and begins shooting down the street. At the 9:06 mark, the gunman turns around and shoots down the street in the other direction.

Curiously, the video shows shell casings being ejected from the semi-automatic, but the casings then disappear into thin air. No shell casings are on the ground because this footage was actually taken not on the street but before a “green screen”, which explains why we see shell casings being ejected but no casing actually falls to the ground.

(3) Bullets hit victims leaving no marks
He then inexplicably returns to the “crime scene” to shoot again and again at the crumpled bodies in the mosque. Strangely, the “bullets” leave no marks on the victims’ clothes or bodies. Upon impact, we see only a puff of air on the victim’s clothes, which suggests the gun was a toy gun that blasts air instead of solid projectiles.

It is a fake gun
Indeed, in a comment, Kevin J. Lankford, a reader of FOTM, observed that the shooter’s guns “looked like nothing I could identify,” and that the reason why the guns are painted with white symbols all over is precisely “to disguise the fact they are fake.”

(4) Bullets fired at car windshield leave no marks
After the gunman finally leaves the mosque, he gets back into his car. While driving away, he shoots at the car’s windshield three times. Strangely, the bullets leavet no marks on the windshield — no bullet holes, no smashed glass

Link: https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/03/dr-eowyn-how-we-know-new-zealand-mosque-shooting-video-is-a-cgi-fake/

Warning link has images and video.

[sms]

The mosque leader blames Mossad for the attack – LINK (https://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/1110579872932552706?s=21)

?!?

[KiwiElf]

The mosque leader blames Mossad for the attack – LINK (https://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/1110579872932552706?s=21)

?!?

Mossad has a long history of "nefarious activities" in NZ - I wouldn't be surprised ...

[sms]

The mosque leader blames Mossad for the attack – LINK (https://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/1110579872932552706?s=21)

?!?

Mossad has a long history of "nefarious activities" in NZ - I wouldn't be surprised ...

I would not be surprised, as well. It seems that the killing was real, but the associated video material was fake. At the same time, the NZ pathocracy was trying to block circulation of any footages of the event, made by other people, which may jeopardize the integrity of the official story.

[BMJ]

From SerialBrain2.

Trump Taking Down the Cabal and Securing our Children: It’s Happening.

Quote:
"By the way, you caught the NZ false flag was a cover to exchange intel in plain sight about Q through the manifesto right? The whole manifesto is coded. Everything you need to know about this false flag is in the Q board. Everything."

Link: https://www.reddit.com/user/SerialBrain2/comments/b5o69i/trump_taking_down_the_cabal_and_securing_our/

[KiwiElf]

The mosque leader blames Mossad for the attack – LINK (https://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/1110579872932552706?s=21)

?!?

Mossad has a long history of "nefarious activities" in NZ - I wouldn't be surprised ...

I would not be surprised, as well. It seems that the killing was real, but the associated video material was fake. At the same time, the NZ pathocracy was trying to block circulation of any footages of the event, made by other people, which may jeopardize the integrity of the official story.

"You are over the target" ;)

[DaveToo]

Let's think this through logically, because to date, I have not seen anyone attempt this.

The event was either:

1. Authentic
2. Authentic + fake/manipulated video
3. Hoax/staged
4. False flag


1. Authentic

If the event was authentic why are there so many problems with the 'live video' that was supposedly released by Tarrant?
Disappearing bullet casings, bullets striking victims with no visible effects on them etc..

2. Authentic + fake/manipulated video

What would the reason be for introducing a fake video for an authentic mass murder event?

3. Hoax/staged

If the event was a hoax, why jeopardize it by releasing a 'live stream' video? Just announce murders like Sandy Hook and be done with it!

4. False flag

If someone other than Tarrant actually murdered all the named victims, why was Tarrant brought into the picture and what was the purpose again of releasing a video of the event?

[BMJ]

NZ mosque shooting ‘hero dad’ caught texting in rehearsal video

Quote:
Martin Fricker reports for the (UK) Mirror, March 18, 2019, that a victim of the Linwood shooting is “hero dad” Zulfirman Syah, who saved the life of his 2-year-old son by shielding the toddler’s body with his own.

Fricker writes:
"A toddler clings to his dad to check he is alive, after his father was shot several times while shielding him from the Christchurch terrorist. In a tender moment after Friday’s brutal shooting, little Averroes, two, clambers on top of Zulfirman Syah’s chest, places a hand on his heart and looks into his eyes for signs of life."

https://i2.wp.com/fellowshipoftheminds.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/crisis-actor-dad-at-Linwood-Islamic-Centre.jpg?resize=279%2C300&ssl=1

But wait!

I’ve seen hero dad before!

Yesterday, in a comment, FOTM reader Keep up the good work had alerted me to a picture of a mosque-shooting victim texting (source: 12160.info):

https://i0.wp.com/fellowshipoftheminds.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NZ-mosque-shooting-crisis-actor-texting.jpg?w=382&ssl=1

Link: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/nz-mosque-shooting-hero-dad-caught-texting-in-rehearsal-video

[BMJ]

Troubling signs New Zealand shooting is being used to turn my country into Islamic State

I live in New Zealand. I’ve become alarmed at developments in my country since the shootings last Friday. What I see unfolding seems so disproportionate to the magnitude of the crime. It seems like I’ve woken up and all of a sudden live in an Islamic State.

(Article by Michelle Kaufman republished from LifeSiteNews.com)

Here are some highlights of what’s unfolding:

- The thought police are out in full force and people are being scrutinized for “hate speech”. Green ribbons are being worn as a symbol against hate.

- Mosques and many of the prayer rooms continue to be protected by armed police (police aren’t usually armed in my country).

- Vigils are being held all over the place in solidarity with the victims. These seem to have morphed into what amounts to support for the Islamic religion. One Catholic bishop held one last Sunday afternoon in the Ponsonby church. After prayers there, they processed over to the mosque, which is on the opposite side of the road and prayed and met there.

- Whitcoulls, one of our book stores, probably the oldest, has removed Jordan Peterson’s book “12 Rules for Life” from its shelves because he was photographed with a member of the public wearing an anti-Islamic t-shirt while he was in New Zealand recently. Apparently, that’s being construed as him having something to do with the madman’s agenda.

- On Tuesday a Muslim prayer was said in Parliament. Just recently all Christian prayer in Parliament was removed.

- On Friday March 22 at 1:30pm New Zealand will be called to prayer…Islamic prayer that is. And we will be expected to keep 2 minutes silence after they read the Muslim prayer acknowledging Allah as “great” and Muhammad as his “prophet.” The call to prayer will be broadcasted on national radio stations and TV as well.

- One top Catholic Church leader will go to the local mosque (Kilbirnie) as well on Friday to stand outside during their prayers as an act of solidarity. The Catholic bishops here have been very sympathetic and playing out their “inter-faith role” with great enthusiasm.

- Catholic school students have been praying inside mosques.

It seems like we’re living in a different world all of a sudden. It seems that showing our great respect for those who were killed has somehow been manipulated into showing affirmation of the Islamic religion.

New Zealand is now putty in the Islamists’ hands.

The shooting on Friday was terrible. But what has now unfolded is something else entirely and may just be the beginning of something very terrible for New Zealand.

Certainly, on a spiritual level, our crisis has become even deeper. Please keep New Zealand in your prayers.


Link: https://naturalnews.com/2019-03-25-new-zealand-shooting-is-being-used-to-turn-my-country-into-islamic-state.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[DaveToo]

Let's think this through logically, because to date, I have not seen anyone attempt this.

The event was either:

1. Authentic
2. Authentic + fake/manipulated video
3. Hoax/staged
4. False flag



Well well well... what a difference a day makes!

When I posted the above, it seemed to me that the event was probably 3. Hoax/staged.

But quite by chance I discovered an analysis of the event by Max Igan yesterday and my view has changed completely.

What he said forced me to go back to the 17 minute video and watch it more carefully.

(BTW, if anyone wants to analyze the video carefully, get your hands on the good quality one.
The first one I downloaded was just 7 minutes long and had very poor quality video.)

Watching the video carefully you will see that the killings were real.
The "disappearing" shell casings did not actually disappear.
Because of poor streaming quality they were lost momentarily, but a few seconds later they can be seen lying on the ground!!!

Watch the killings in the mosque. You will see dozens of shell casings on the carpet.

Also in an earlier post I mentioned a young woman screaming "Help me help me" before and AFTER she had been shot.
That is what you hear in the poor quality 7 minute video.
In the better quality 17 minute video, she is silent after he shoots her from close up range.

I am now firmly in the 4. False flag camp. There were killings. Tarrant did them, but he was likely a mind-controlled patsy.

Listen carefully to him as he is driving off to the second mosque. He is not simply talking out loud.
He is having a conversation with another man who at one point says "You should have stayed longer..."

I encourage members here to listen to this broadcast if you have the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyEPejcVPEA&feature=youtu.be

[BMJ]

False flag I agree and were people injured and killed sadly yes they were. As to authenticity of the shooters video questionable.

Having Max Igan calmly telling me from a supposed position of knowing that the shooters video was real and we have to accept his word for it, well prove it with evidence Max.

People can make their own minds up, that's the point of presenting this information.

The article below also has an authentic video of the moment the shooter is captured "taken on a mobile phone from a passerby", the front windscreen does not look like it has any shotgun damage at all.

The video can be made full screen and paused for analysis.

Link: https://www.9news.com.au/world/christchurch-attack-christchurch-shooter-police-arrest-was-captured/1257b006-384f-4015-a957-e9fbcf67076a

[BMJ]

Door-to-door gun confiscations begin in New Zealand; one gun owner already dead, with thousands more targeted by armed government thugs

Quote:
The Truth About Guns is reporting that, according to the country’s biggest firearms forum, Kiwi cops are now going door-to-door to gun owners’ places of business, their homes, and even gun ranges “in an attempt to gather information and get gun owners to relinquish their firearms.”

Pay attention, Americans — because even if you don’t own a gun, these are tactics tyrannical Left-wing Democrats will employ to force us all to live a certain way if they are ever empowered enough.


Link: https://naturalnews.com/2019-03-28-door-to-door-gun-confiscations-begin-in-new-zealand-armed-government-thugs.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[DaveToo]

False flag I agree and were people injured and killed sadly yes they were. As to authenticity of the shooters video questionable.

Having Max Igan calmly telling me from a supposed position of knowing that the shooters video was real and we have to accept his word for it, well prove it with evidence Max.

People can make their own minds up, that's the point of presenting this information.

The article below also has an authentic video of the moment the shooter is captured "taken on a mobile phone from a passerby", the front windscreen does not look like it has any shotgun damage at all.

The video can be made full screen and paused for analysis.

BMJ, from the start I'd like to make a few things perfectly clear.

I have no skin in this game. It makes absolutely no difference to me if the event was authentic, a hoax or a false flag.

As far as Max Igan is concerned, I don't know the man from a hole in the wall. I had never heard of him before I happened to discover the video I mentioned above.

I watched it, listened carefully to what he had to say and remained skeptical as I was listening, because prior to that point I was leaning toward the hoax camp for the event.

I made careful notes of what he was saying about the shooting video and after I finished watching his entire video I went back to study the shooting video much more carefully than I had done previously.

Each and every point he had made (except for the shoes) was correct.
The "disappearing casings" re-appeared on the pavement a few seconds after they 'disappeared'.

You can see lots of blood in the mosque. You can see the victims' bodies move as they are hit.

You CAN see cracks/holes in the front windshield of his car after he shoots at it!
It is not immediately apparent, but if you keep your eyes trained to the windshield, you will eventually see them.
Play the video in slow motion if you need to. It is there.

As to the cracks/holes not being visible in the "authentic video of the moment the shooter is captured"...
That video was taken dozens of feet away from the car. You simply can't see the detail that is even hard to make out from the video that was taken just a couple of feet away from inside the car!

Please go back and watch the high quality video again. You will see the crack/holes.

But as Max said in the video, and he is entirely correct, arguing about small details like this is exactly what the deep state/perps want us to be doing. Their bigger agenda, which Max outlines perfectly is what is MOST IMPORTANT here.

Along these lines, here is another video that I just watched that connects all the dots too, about Tarrant and what the end game is all about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzdhefR6rTs

[KiwiElf]

Here's a Kiwi perspective along with several videos, related articles & links from the Kiwi "Conspiracy" website, Wake Up New Zealand. (We're not all sheeple down here! ;) Readers may find other points of interest also).

http://www.wakeupkiwi.com/news-articles-64.shtml#Igan

There's a much bigger picture here, to be sure. :sherlock:

[KiwiElf]

On a side note, as of last week, only 36 weapons in the "banned category" had been voluntarily handed into NZ Police. (From an estimated 1,500+ - there will be variations of that).

Kiwi's will not give up their guns easily, either (at least, the ones who are awake!).

Where have we seen this predictable "playbook" before? ;)

EDIT - ADDITION

@ DaveToo - here's Max Igan's Webpage (I hadn't heard of him either until now, but so far, I don't give him a great deal of credibility on the NZ Mosque Shooting situation - of course, he's entitled to his "opinion" which is not necessarily "fact") ;)

http://thecrowhouse.com/home.html

[DaveToo]

On a side note, as of last week, only 36 weapons in the "banned category" had been voluntarily handed into NZ Police. (From an estimated 1,500+ - there will be variations of that).

Kiwi's will not give up their guns easily, either (at least, the ones who are awake!).

Where have we seen this predictable "playbook" before? ;)

EDIT - ADDITION

@ DaveToo - here's Max Igan's Webpage (I hadn't heard of him either until now, but so far, I don't give him a great deal of credibility on the NZ Mosque Shooting situation - of course, he's entitled to his "opinion" which is not necessarily "fact") ;)

http://thecrowhouse.com/home.html

Thanks I did discover his webpage after viewing the video I mentioned above.
Your previous post actually has a link to Max front and center.

http://www.wakeupkiwi.com/news-articles-64.shtml#Igan

Could you spell out what parts of his take that you don't give him credibility for?
I'm interested to hear about it and what your take on it is?
Personally I couldn't find any fault in what he was saying really.

[BMJ]

False flag I agree and were people injured and killed sadly yes they were. As to authenticity of the shooters video questionable.

Having Max Igan calmly telling me from a supposed position of knowing that the shooters video was real and we have to accept his word for it, well prove it with evidence Max.

People can make their own minds up, that's the point of presenting this information.

The article below also has an authentic video of the moment the shooter is captured "taken on a mobile phone from a passerby", the front windscreen does not look like it has any shotgun damage at all.

The video can be made full screen and paused for analysis.

BMJ, from the start I'd like to make a few things perfectly clear.

I have no skin in this game. It makes absolutely no difference to me if the event was authentic, a hoax or a false flag.

As far as Max Igan is concerned, I don't know the man from a hole in the wall. I had never heard of him before I happened to discover the video I mentioned above.

I watched it, listened carefully to what he had to say and remained skeptical as I was listening, because prior to that point I was leaning toward the hoax camp for the event.

I made careful notes of what he was saying about the shooting video and after I finished watching his entire video I went back to study the shooting video much more carefully than I had done previously.

Each and every point he had made (except for the shoes) was correct.
The "disappearing casings" re-appeared on the pavement a few seconds after they 'disappeared'.

You can see lots of blood in the mosque. You can see the victims' bodies move as they are hit.

You CAN see cracks/holes in the front windshield of his car after he shoots at it!
It is not immediately apparent, but if you keep your eyes trained to the windshield, you will eventually see them.
Play the video in slow motion if you need to. It is there.

As to the cracks/holes not being visible in the "authentic video of the moment the shooter is captured"...
That video was taken dozens of feet away from the car. You simply can't see the detail that is even hard to make out from the video that was taken just a couple of feet away from inside the car!

Please go back and watch the high quality video again. You will see the crack/holes.

But as Max said in the video, and he is entirely correct, arguing about small details like this is exactly what the deep state/perps want us to be doing. Their bigger agenda, which Max outlines perfectly is what is MOST IMPORTANT here.

Along these lines, here is another video that I just watched that connects all the dots too, about Tarrant and what the end game is all about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzdhefR6rTs

I appreciate your point of view and if you can please provide a link to this high quality video your referring to so that we can all analyse it for ourselves.

This should very quickly dispell any misconceptions about the fact or fiction in relation to video and either support Max Igans claims or not.

Yes Max Igan maybe correct in that tptw will use this false flag video to discredit the alternative media.

But as always this is a reminder to not self censor our opinions, but instead be more diligent, analytical and provide the best and most objective opinion possible.

The truth always speaks for itself regardless of the narrative or my bruised ego, and I do not mind a bit of bruising so long as results take me closer to the truth.

[DaveToo]

I appreciate your point of view and if you can please provide a link to this high quality video your referring to so that we can all analyse it for ourselves.

This should very quickly dispell any misconceptions about the fact or fiction in relation to video and either support Max Igans claims or not.

Yes Max Igan maybe correct in that tptw will use this false flag video to discredit the alternative media.

But as always this is a reminder to not self censor our opinions, but instead be more diligent, analytical and provide the best and most objective opinion possible.

The truth always speaks for itself regardless of the narrative or my bruised ego, and I do not mind a bit of bruising so long as results take me closer to the truth.


Please BMJ, tone is everything.
Please show respect, no matter where you are in this conversation.

If you are a thorough investigator you would have downloaded the infamous shooting video a couple of weeks ago already!

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=YOK4BKONYMB9

If I were you, I would grab this sucker as quickly as you can, because it may not last too much longer.

Just before 14:00 look to the right of the mirror/GPS, you will see some cracks in the windshield. Also around the 14:20 - 14:50 mark.
Lots of cracks.



But as always this is a reminder to not self censor our opinions,

I never try to censor other people's opinions!
If you think I may have done so, please show me where?



The truth always speaks for itself regardless of the narrative or my bruised ego, and I do not mind a bit of bruising so long as results take me closer to the truth

And as I stated in my previous posts I also don't mind being wrong and changing my viewpoint.
It's part of growing up and being a mature person.

[KiwiElf]

On a side note, as of last week, only 36 weapons in the "banned category" had been voluntarily handed into NZ Police. (From an estimated 1,500+ - there will be variations of that).

Kiwi's will not give up their guns easily, either (at least, the ones who are awake!).

Where have we seen this predictable "playbook" before? ;)

EDIT - ADDITION

@ DaveToo - here's Max Igan's Webpage (I hadn't heard of him either until now, but so far, I don't give him a great deal of credibility on the NZ Mosque Shooting situation - of course, he's entitled to his "opinion" which is not necessarily "fact") ;)

http://thecrowhouse.com/home.html

Thanks I did discover his webpage after viewing the video I mentioned above.
Your previous post actually has a link to Max front and center.

http://www.wakeupkiwi.com/news-articles-64.shtml#Igan

Could you spell out what parts of his take that you don't give him credibility for?
I'm interested to hear about it and what your take on it is?
Personally I couldn't find any fault in what he was saying really.

Yes, more recent links are added to the top of each article - Igan's POV is relatively new and sorry;
No,... I have neither the time nor inclination to dissect Igans' opinions in detail on this thread - to me, some of his points were good, and others "amusing" - he showed a clear lack of understanding on certain issues, particularly Kiwi culture, lifestyle & mindsets.

We are not like the USA, China, India, Canada, UK, France or Australia; perhaps a melting pot of all of the above. It's generally accepted that immigrants to this country will accept and adopt the "Kiwi way of life". Lately, that doesn't appear to be working too well. :raining:

Please do keep in mind that we have only a relatively small population of 5 million people (about the size of Sydney's population), spread over a landmass roughly the size of Japan but more usable. Yes, we have "assets," land and valuables that many countries are trying to get their (controlling) hands on. Many Kiwi's consider China our biggest threat. (That cozy relationship has soured in recent years). Many of us are starting to feel uncomfortable in our own country.

That simply comes from my being a born & bred Kiwi and having known the past 40+ years of "Deep State" involvement & corruption in this country's politics by "foreign entities". (It would take several books to detail that! You and other readers may like to research the original "The Gemstone File" and its sister publication, "The Opal File", both banned exposé's on earlier NZ & Australian Corruption - they were once available off the internet. They were later turned into books and are obtainable from the likes of Amazon, but labeled "wild conspiracy theories").

IMO, Igan, like Icke, (and a few others) is still banging the same old playbook and paradigm - note PAST TENSE. (They almost sound alike!). :facepalm:

I do not believe their viewpoints are as relevant as they once were prior to Trump's election - EVERYTHING changed at that point. "Their" Deep State plan went down the gurgler.

Both Icke & Igan rubbish Q & Trump, which is their prerogative; it is not my understanding of real events currently unfolding. (perhaps you might like to hop over to the Q thread and see what has been discussed over and above what is on this thread in the last few weeks)?

Like all false flag events, there is a hidden agenda (take your pick) and YES, real innocent people died; this was NOT a hoax. But to blame Trump, or Q or "White Nationalists" for this is nonsensical. That is straight out of the Deep State Leftist Playbook being pushed by the fakestream media narrative and American Democrats. And guess what? Q warned of that well in advance. ;)

You perhaps need to understand that Jacinda Adern's Govt is completely aligned with the HRC/Obama/Leftist Agenda; she is openly an anti-Trumper and considered communist. You also need to study her past in detail, and see who she has been and is closely aligned with (and it ain't pretty - a far cry from the innocent persona she projects in the fakestream media!), not to mention her predecessors.

To put that in perspective, even as late as last year, this NZ Govt (and previous) were STILL donating $Millions of Kiwi Taxpayers Dollars to the Clinton Foundation and have been doing so for years - without the general knowledge, or permission of most Kiwis. For WHAT, exactly? That in itself should speak volumes.

(Also interesting that Adern saw fit to ban all Christian prayers in Parliament when she took over but Muslim prayers after the shooting are fine)?

All of NZ's MSM media is one-sided, anti-Trump and completely Deep State owned & controlled, as are our two major political parties, National vs Labour. (They always have been). That is no great secret. (Currently, Jacinda Adern heads up the Labour Party; prior to that, the National Party governed under John Key's leadership until he suddenly resigned, shortly after a mysterious visit from John Kerry, returning from Antarctica enroute to the US)!

Both political Parties are Coalitions, as neither have retained enough seats in Parliament to go it alone. That is how Jacinda Adern gained power in our previous elections; she was NOT the popular or majority vote of Kiwi's. The Wildcard was #3, the NZ First Party under Winston Peters (who is now the Deputy Prime Minister). To get the "numbers", it was necessary for both NZ First & the Green Party to join with the Labour Party to form our present Government, which barely scraped in.

We too have a new election coming up in 2020. Despite the "popular propaganda" of projecting Adern as some kind of Political Superstar to the World at large, if current trends continue, it's unlikely Adern will win. The majority of Kiwi's, local businesses & property owners - at least the ones who are awake - despise her. (see 8CHAN link below). She has milked this tragic shooting to her benefit. "Smoke & Mirrors" (The so-called "censorship" of 4CHAN/8CHAN & the "banned footage/manifesto" - and subsequent penalties for possessing/distributing either - should tell you everything you need to know about this governments' real agenda).

BMJ's earlier posts #142 & 145 are remarkably accurate as are SMS's. (And I know; I live here). :)

EDIT - ADDITION - CROSSPOSTED

If anyone wants the "lowdown" on New Zealand's involvement in all this, (more significant than some may realise), here it is from NZ Anons, irrespective of what anyone's opinions are about Q or Trump, this is solid background research of the Corruption in NZ:

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4664577.html

It's primarily a research board, (despite a good deal of "noise"), and mostly info, links and infographics; it's quite up-to-date. Since the Mosque Shooting, NZ/Australian readers may not be able to access these boards (funny that! - I wonder why??? Fortunately, I downloaded it weeks ago). ;)

KiwiLand is not the "innocent paradise" many think it is. (note the articles on bunkers being imported, built & buried in NZ by "foreign elite" intent on fleeing here. You'll also get an "enlightening" background on Jacinda Adern, John Keys, Helen Clarke and other Deep State Players along with the Mosque shooting that "they" do not want you to know. Agenda 21/Agenda 2030 is at the forefront). :sherlock:

The Deep State NWO is alive and well in NZ - including ALL major MSM!

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[Zanshin]

Max Igan doesn't mention bare feet/blue socks bloke in the hallway.

Jim Stone points to this singular discrepancy as definitive -

http://82.221.129.208/.wo2.html

Some scrolling may be necessary to find the relevant still shots.

[Hervé]

The "Forbidden" Christchurch Video - 22 Discrepancies (https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/03/Christchurch-Video-22-Discrepancies.html)

henrymakow.com
March 31, 2019


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/new-zealand.jpg


(Brenton Tarrant)


The video was suppressed because it is obviously bogus.

In 2003, German historian Wolfgang Eggert sounded the alarm (https://www.henrymakow.com/historian_demands_action_on_do.html) about the Cabalist doomsday cult whose thinking now pervades the Trump Whitehouse.

Today he says it is vital that the Christchurch massacre fraud be exposed.

He says:
"The Christchurch „massacre" is our chance to destroy the power of mainstream media narratives. Although in most cases I usually reject the classification of terror attacks as hoaxes, this one seems to be such a false flag non-incident. And it threatens all of us truthers. The looming threat for us to be muzzled by increasingly rigid internet legislation is now spread by the mainstream media on a daily basis since 15th March.

We have to fight this shutdown. We do that best by eventually (!) once (!) clarifying/solving one - THIS - "terror" case completely."

------------------------------------------

by Wolfgang Eggert
transl. by Laura Kölsch
(henrymakow.com)



What we know
1. The official offender Brenton Tarrant. This unemployed man has travelled to exciting crisis areas halfway around the world in recent years, allegedly radicalizing himself to the far right. Whether this happened in North Korea or in the Balkans, in Israel, in Turkey, in Iran, in Afghanistan or China's civil war region Xinjiang is not explained. In Pakistan, where the alleged racist and Islam-hater also stayed near the embattled Kashmir area https://www.thequint.com/news/world/new-zealand-christchurch-terrorist-leaves-behind-seventy-four-page-manifesto-calling-indian-chinese-turkish-invaders only 5 months before the gunshots of Christchurch, he seems to have felt totally at ease. In a Facebook post he praises the inhabitants and indirectly also the government of the Muslim country. (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bHWRRK11K3Q/XIukidAeZ1I/AAAAAAAAqdg/syqaqKCyHD4MRJM71fSUFjZQV9pWuCMuQCLcBGAs/s640/Brenton%2BTarrant%2B2.png) That is the vita, the official vita, which seemed "complete" until a few weeks ago.

By now we know that Tarrant was a member of the right-wing Knights Templar Order, which, among others, has the goal to "infiltrate Islamist groups to report their terrorist plans to the authorities" https://www.zeit.de/2012/21/DOS-Breivik/seite-3.
Might one think of intelligence work looking at this vita?


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/Wolfgang-Eggert.png
(Wolfgang Eggert)


2. As already mentioned, a reality-based anti-terrorism exercise also took place in Christchurch on the very day of the drama, topic: how to deal with armed offenders. (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213551)

https://m.focus.de/politik/ausland/terroranschlag-in-neuseeland-sie-rammten-sein-fahrzeug-so-stoppen-zwei-polizisten-den-attentaeter_id_10464998.html
Members of these training forces, not ordinary police, secured, possibly according to the training script, "explosives" in several cars, including the vehicle of the mosque shooter.

Commissioner Bush, three hours after the attacks: (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/mar/15/christchurch-shooting-injuries-reported-as-police-respond-to-critical-incident-live?page=with:block-5c8b2bbee4b016d23425c3c5#liveblog-navigation)
"several IEDs attached to cars have been made safe now."

"This speaks to the seriousness of what occurred."
And it was they who arrested Tarrant. There is a video showing the "arrest". The professional action - the car was rammed - may indicate that the "arrest" was part of the ongoing training.

Considering Tarrant's resume, which suggests anti-terrorist activities, the headline could read: How special forces correctly retire a colleague. In fact, the New Zealand Herald reports (https://www.nzherald.co.nz//nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213956&ref=clavis) that Australian snipers participated in this or an accompanying exercise and were also seen near the crime scenes.

3.The suppression of the "evidence video"

Tarrant's video, still to find HERE
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=WO4NOH7OD8Y2 (New Zealand Mosque Shooting Uncensored) https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ik6VYAJGF7os/ https://videos.files.wordpress.com/AHg7RSw6/new-zealander-shoots-up-mosque-march-15th-2019-1_hd.mp4 has been "classified by the Chief Censor's Office as objectionable," under a 1993 New Zealand law, which allows convictions up to 10 years of prison for downloading and/or distributing incriminating films. New Zealand Police have also been searching personal data of users who even controversially discuss Tarrant's 'manifesto' or video. (https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/03/new-zealand-police-request-personal-data-from-kiwifarms-users-who-shared-shooter-manifesto-video/80039/)


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/thot-crime.jpg

These censorship measures took over the entire world network within hours and subsequently made it impossible for non-New Zealanders to form an opinion on the video.

Remarkably, such measures have NOT been applied to the much crueller ISIS videos, which show beheadings, drownings, and burning alives. The relevant "Charlie Hebdo videos" are still available on the internet.

Why this time is different, so say the Hoaxer, has its reason in numerous vulnerabilities of the Christchurch perpetrator's video.

And they have more than a few arguments on their side.

What the video shows
4. The „perpetrators" selfie -13.46 (3.09) Tech-Fail (Above)

The driver intentionally swings the camera over to his face at one point, allowing to 'recognize' him. It's the only 'evidence picture' because there is no surveillance camera footage of the attacked mosques. The mask-like face seen in the car video may well be that of today's "offender" Brenton Tarrant. But it looks like it has been cut out and does not fit in with the body, or -the stills show it particularly clear - the body seems too far behind the head. Post-production comes into mind.

https://s3.ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/images.deccanchronicle.com/dc-Cover-m482e2r1n2tei6lsvek9ovrvb3-20190315141031.Medi.jpeg

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Tarrant.jpg

https://fijisun.com.fj/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Tarrant-750x403.jpg

5. The blind „eyewitnesses" -10.28 (6.25) Basis-Video vs Endproduct

The "shooter" walks past two people in front of the gate of Al-Noor mosque. They are not surprised by the helmeted, camouflaged and armed passerby, who in turn ignores both "witnesses"

6. To counter the impression, that the guns might have been "invisible" when the film was made, we have an eyewitness. The msn-article reads as followed:
Mohamed Yama was praying in the Al Noor mosque having the closest of escapes after bravely confronting the gunman.

"I am shocked," he said.

"I say hey. What are you doing? What's the gun? This is a mosque."
Mr Yama then recounts the moment the gunman turned to him and fired miraculously missing him by the slimmest of margins.

As worshippers tried to escape, Mohamed fled onto the street calling ambulances. (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/stories-of-survival-and-loss-after-the-christchurch-terror-attack/ar-BBUQkHe)
https://www.9news.com.au/national/news-melbourne-stories-of-survival-from-christchurch-terror-attack/e69bd4b2-17f8-4f26-ade5-e475448a30e4

BUT: We don´t find this "occurrence" on "Tarrant´s film" - it is neither to be seen nor to be heard there.

HERE https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=1XMGXKR2W7WU (https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=1XMGXKR2W7WU)(0:37) we see and hear a second Mohamed Yama, another man under the same name who recounts the same incident. Watch "Tarrant´s film", when he passes the cars, that this man is talking about. There is no voice to be heard by someone speaking to him in this area. And there is not the slightest reaction by the film-maker, that he might had been touched from behind. Besides the man recounts a false position of the film-camera. He points to his upper breast, instead of the head.

The aggressor greeted like a friend -10.19 (6.36) Basic vs Finished Product
This obvious discrepancy continues at the entrance gate to the mosque, where the "perpetrator" points his gun at people standing at the door while these first "victims" greet him with the words "hello brother" which is common among Muslims.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/cc-yt.jpg



7. No weapon recoil -10.18 (6.37ff) Tech-Logic-Fail


The "shooting" starts at the mosque gate. The tremble-free video does not show any weapon recoil which gives rise to the assumption that the filming person was unarmed. For comparison, see 3.00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=134&v=ItILe1yWvZ8

8. 52 shots from a 30 shots magazine -10.11 (6.44ff) Tech-Logic-Fail

After the entry scenario (9 shots) the "shooter" drops the weapon and changes to his second rifle. Here the shot sequence: Creeping: 3 shots; side room: 4 shots; forward in the hallway: 4 shots; entrance to the prayer room (crawling and second body): 9 shots; on group right in the room: approx. 24 shots; on approaching person: 5 shots plus 3 on the ground. That makes - with a 30 shots magazine! - about 52 shots without apparent magazine change.

9. Why is no one escaping? -9.59 (6.57) Logic-Fail

When the shooter first enters the prayer room, he spares the group already crammed into the left corner. At -9.49 (7.06) he is back in the corridor, where he reloads --9.41 (7.14) and then goes back to the prayer room and only now, -9.36 (7.19) shoots at the body pile on the left. They had until then been able to escape to the garden through a glass door just two steps away, but with one exception - -9.36 (7.19) no one did.

10. No room damage Tech-Logic-Fail

In the same scene the "perpetrator" fires with high salvo density especially at the right side of the room. It is completely inexplicable why the walls and windows show no ammunition effects.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/socks.jpg


11. Barefoot "victim" in socks -8.13 (8.42) Different takes within filmmaking
A „victim", which at the beginning crawls barefoot on the hallway's floor, -10,06(6.47) wears blue socks in a later camera shot. http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1553029204727.webm

12. Water without rain -7.58 (8.55) Different takes within filmmaking
The "shooter" leaves the mosque and takes to the streets. At the entrance to the mosque there is a large water mark, which according to the video time code two and a half minutes before -10.27 (6.27) was still considerably smaller or narrower. In the short meantime - a cone locking the exit underlines this - no cars can have come out. This is an indication a prolonged stage setting, disguised by a hidden camera cut.

13. Senseless shooting & cool vehicles -7.58 (8.57ff) Basic vs Finished Product

If the scenic routes "sidewalk/street/side road" were pre-recorded like all tracking shots in the open air, then there was some action required to put on top the pre-recorded material. The senseless shooting on the streets when no one was around, appear suitable for such a use. Strikingly, the car traffic on the road continues undisturbed!

14. Dissolving cartridges -7.58 (8.57ff) Tech-Logic-Fail

The phenomenon of the "phantom cartridges", which has already been mentioned in 15, is particularly clearly confirmed when the shooter takes the street in front of the mosque under "fire". Here you can see the ejection of the cartridge cases - which, however, a thing of impossibility, DISSOLVE in the air! The few cartridges that seem to reach the ground without the typical clanking noise magically disappear within seconds.
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=W9956S2AYY9H
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdRzQZAGxw

15. No consequences for cars -7.04 (9.52ff) Basic vs Finished Product

While the "shooter" passes the entrance area of the mosque on the road, we notice in the right angle that a silver van parked in front of the gate is moving in the yard. https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=BGORUSUB2H4N However, the "perpetrator" ignores the car and rather shoots in the empty side road. As he walks back down the alley to the mosque, the van is already gone. There is only one (!) scene in which "shots" are aimed at a car: This is the front window shot at -3.58 (12.50) where the "shooter", despite three attempts, hits nothing.

16. Music contradicts live stream -6.55 (10.01ff)Post-production

In the video, you can almost continuously hear music, regardless of whether the 'offender' in the car, outdoors or in the mosque. This would only make sense if he had a portable music device with him. If he had, then still the question arises, why the temporal settings of the shots is not backed by music. This can actually only be explained by post-production. An additional indication is the 'suitable' mood influencing use of music after the head shot at an 'escaping woman' -4.45 (12.13). The background music changes to the song "I am the God of Hellfire" then.

Additionally, it should be noticed, that the reloading of the weapon(s) always sound the same, so as if someone used one and the same sound-effect on multiple occasions.

17. The mumbling and tipping over Tech-Fail

The background acoustics from the "victims" are striking as well: throughout the massacre, we only hear some sort of a continuous murmur. Individual screams of pain, shouts, or warning calls are nowhere to be heard. Almost all "victims" are already motionless on the ground when the camera hits them the first time, without any visual effect of being hit or of suffering, sometimes -9.59 (6.56) even related shot on (seemingly) targeted people are questionable.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/bodies.jpg


18. Dolls and Photoshop? -6.00 (10.55) Basic vs Finished Product

There is too little blood caused by the massacre. This is 100% correct for the first run; what would explain - in case of a virtual manipulation of the film - why the "perpetrator" had to leave the mosque and "return" to document at least "standing" blood near the entrance and in two or three places of the prayer room. The hoax community, therefore, suspects fake victims. The analysis of one scene out of this community https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=XSY1S9AM6W8X judges by a 'victim's' arm movement that the bodies were not on-site as a group at the time of filming but are individually extracted from other picture and film footage and merged into a group per mouse click. However, this arm movement is less compelling than the leg posture of the jeans wearing 'victim' lying next to it. His legs (a short-term illumination underlines it) seem to FLOAT.

Another example for unnatural body positions is the man "shot dead" at the main room's entrance, -7.20/8.13 lying face down but legs somehow bent in the air, looking rather like a doll than a human being.

19. Shoes taken off -5.08 (11.47ff) Logic-Fail

Finally leaving the mosque the "shooter" at the entrance targets two "refugees" escaping through a side gate in the property wall. To hit them is actually impossible because of the distance, the moving target and the very narrow shooting angle. But he seems to make it with two shots. The camera moves to the "victim" on the sidewalk, passes the (again?) closed gate and captures one meter next to the "victim", for whatever reason, her shoes. The "assassin" "shoots" her in the head, blowing her hair to the side like under the effects of a hairdryer. The mortally hit woman's hand reaches for her head. Meanwhile, the car traffic moves calmly. The second person, who escaped, has not been presented by the media yet.

20. No bumpers whilst run over -4.29 (12.26ff) Basic vs Finished Product

Leaving the crime scene the "perpetrator" drives over that woman's body. The noticeable "bumpers" in the car are far too small to have come from overrunning a human body.

21. Silence on chaos day -4.27 (12.28ff) Basic vs Finished Product

Although the police was alerted already 2 minutes after the first shots at Al Noor mosque and 20 ambulances were on their way there, you can only hear one siren during the "shooters" drive away from Al Noor mosque to Linwood mosque.

22. The unbreakable front window -3.58 (12.50ff) Tech-Logic-Fail

The "offender" fires his weapon from in (!) the car through his front window without causing any visible destruction. The video footage of his arrest as well shows no damage to the front window.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/111328483/video-captures-moment-police-arrested-shooting-suspected

In reality, the blast - multiplied in a closed and even more so in a small space - is enormous with live ammunition. The "shooter" should have been "deaf" first and the microphone should have had to override at this point. This means that the recording device could not have processed more sounds in the same line, but in this case, it surprisingly can.


CONCLUSION
The fact is that those who point out the possibility of a faked attack have a number of points in their favor:


52 shots from a 30-shot magazine
Self-dissolving cartridge
Missing ammunition effects on walls and car windows
A barefoot victim with socks
All these are real killer arguments against the credibility of the video and thus against the official narrative.

Furthermore, there is clear evidence that the video was "produced" and processed in two rounds, and this before the crime. The first round is a pure video recording of only the car drive and the mosque. In the second round, the hoax-community says, the shocking action scenes were subsequently layered on top of the plain drive-location video, partly with the help of blue box / green screen effects and Photoshop, possibly even with the use of dolls and so-called crisis actors, the latter typical for training scenarios.

The question is: who then was the political director? The mosques operators and the New Zealand government, together with the subordinate investigating police would be the first to suspect because they 'behaved' according to the - supposedly fictional - narrative. But the reason for them to make such a dubious evidence video remains puzzling. It may have been a pure training movie, designed for internal drill use, on this day. But New Zealand may have pursued further external intentions with the film.

Anyway, there is the suspicion that this very product was seized by third parties and modified in a way that literally produced their own movie and put New Zealand's government under pressure. We probably will never know the whole truth.
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Related:
The Christchurch "Shooting" Is Indeed A Fake: New Updates Show What Else Is WRONG With That Event! (https://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-christchurch-shooting-is-indeed.html)

Miles Mathis on Christchurch Shooting Hoax Pt 3 (http://milesmathis.com/xchurch3.pdf)


Note from Eggert- Guide to Investigation
The Christchurch „massacre" is our chance to destroy the power of mainstream media narratives. Although in most cases I usually reject the classification of terror attacks as hoaxes, this one seems to be such a false flag non-incident. And it threatens all of us truthers. The looming threat for us to be muzzled by increasingly rigid internet legislation is now spread by the mainstream media on a daily basis since 15th March.

We have to fight this shutdown. We do that best by eventually (!) once (!) clarifying/solving one - THIS- "terror" case completely. This can be done using the search instructions below. Of course, we can hardly accomplish this work alone from the US or Europe as the research requires being on-site. I, therefore, ask you to send the search instructions to friends, readers, followers, ex-Muslims etc. (ideally in NZ) to move things forward and find people to investigate in Christchurch. In view of the increasing persecutions (possession and distribution ban regarding the Christchurch shooting video), the volunteers are well advised to obtain press accreditations from alternative media.

Groups worth investigating
1.Problematic because potentially ‚part of the game':
⦁ Members of forces conducting the exercise
⦁ Members of conventional police forces
⦁ Members of emergency medical care
⦁ Hospital staff
2.Partly problematic because potentially (already) included:
⦁ Residents with views on the mosques
⦁ Muslims (Questions, e.g.: does the time of crime match the Friday prayer time window? Were the mosques on 15th March accessible for usual worshippers traffic? Did family, friends or the like visit the mosques on the day/time of the crime? Who knows the victims portrayed in the media? https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/16/13/11074574-6816117-image-a-21_1552743767140.jpg)
3. Unproblematic
⦁ Investigations in nearby shops, offices
⦁ Identify and locate people who were near the ‚crime scene' on 15th March (e.g. by publishing still images of people /cars taken from the shooting video, combined with interview requests/search queries)
Facts, unproblematic to check
⦁ Were the streets shown in the shooting video accessible to the public on 15th March? Did they appear as in the video or were circumstances/objects noticed which contradict the video's narrative (e.g. construction sites, traffic signs, billboards)?

⦁ Technical forensics: The suspected greenscreen shooting video should be reviewed in depth. Possible starting points are the audio track, the camera move on the suspects face, the disappearing cartridge cases, the gunshots on the car's windscreen, noticeable cuts.
=======================================================


So, what are we ending up with?


An anti-terrorist training drill being conducted in the area at the same time that
a real mass shooting occurs
an alleged "live-stream" montage video of a shooting to distract and confuse
a windfall of new regulations and restrictions

Whatever the case may be, it definitely was a false flag attack:



https://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/1/66/96/30/20180409/ob_4ea50a_false-flag.png

[mountain_jim]

I am not going to seek out or watch this video, but this seems obvious to me:



It's the only 'evidence picture' because there is no surveillance camera footage of the attacked mosques. The mask-like face seen in the car video may well be that of today's "offender" Brenton Tarrant. But it looks like it has been cut out and does not fit in with the body, or -the stills show it particularly clear - the body seems too far behind the head. Post-production comes into mind.


later edit- my spouse says not conclusive.

[BMJ]

I appreciate your point of view and if you can please provide a link to this high quality video your referring to so that we can all analyse it for ourselves.

This should very quickly dispell any misconceptions about the fact or fiction in relation to video and either support Max Igans claims or not.

Yes Max Igan maybe correct in that tptw will use this false flag video to discredit the alternative media.

But as always this is a reminder to not self censor our opinions, but instead be more diligent, analytical and provide the best and most objective opinion possible.

The truth always speaks for itself regardless of the narrative or my bruised ego, and I do not mind a bit of bruising so long as results take me closer to the truth.

Please BMJ, tone is everything.

Please show respect, no matter where you are in this conversation.

If you are a thorough investigator you would have downloaded the infamous shooting video a couple of weeks ago already!


But as always this is a reminder to not self censor our opinions,
I never try to censor other people's opinions!
If you think I may have done so, please show me where?




I am usually short and to the point with my writing style and maybe that can be misunderstood at times.

But I will be clear now in saying that I am not going to be baited by your comments into an argument with you Davetoo.

I have better things to do.

[Zanshin]

So I've listened to Max Igan's take and downloaded the footage linked by DaveToo which I viewed using VLC.

As Dave has said the footage is much higher quality than the 7 min. footage I saw before, alleviating the surreal,
video-game quality of the compression Max referenced.
Suffice to say I think I just saw real footage of real people being murdered.

The clearing of weapon jams seems consistent; the ammo in the mags looks real - although more likely Nato 5.56 than .223
given the military nature of the weapons; and in one image, (4th down) on the page KiwiElf links in post #147, the shooter's
subaru being loaded onto the tow-truck clearly has 3 holes in the windscreen.
The 'socks' stillshots when paused in the playback seem to be simply ambient light anomalies.

As Dave said this would move the event into the area of false flag for all the other anomalies surrounding the event.

My condolences for all those who have suffered loss in this tragedy.

[DaveToo]

The "Forbidden" Christchurch Video - 22 Discrepancies (https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/03/Christchurch-Video-22-Discrepancies.html)

by Wolfgang Eggert
transl. by Laura Kölsch
(henrymakow.com)


This is completely amateurish Herve.
I am surprised that you have bothered to post it here.

I took the time to go through his "22 discrepancies" and had no problem explaining why most are not discrepancies at all.

Most notable:

4. Identification of Tarrant with camera. He claims it is probably a cut and paste!
He says "It's the only evidence picture".
First off it is not "mask-like". There is no "cut out" and it does "fit in with the body".
Second of all it is NOT "the only evidence picture" of Tarrant. There are other times in his video where you can see him
through the rear view mirror !!!

7. "No weapon recoil" Totally false!!! Recoil on each and every shot !

9. "No one escaping?" Numerous people tried to escape. They were shot.

11. "Victim has bare feet. Same victim now wearing blue socks"
Same body from two different views!!!
When Tarrant enters the mosque the second time, the same man is lying there, with no socks on!
Tarrant quickly turns around and guess what? The man now looks like he's wearing socks !!!!!

12. "Water without rain" All water marks are consistent. Nothing changes.

13. "Senseless shooting" He does seem to waste a lot of bullets shooting down the street. But what does this prove?

14. "Dissolving cartridges" NO !! They re-appear on the ground! It is just poor streaming resolution.

15. "No consequences for cars" Why would he shoot at cars? This would draw attention to him and his objective!

17. "The mumbling and tipping over. Individual screams of pain, shouts, or warning calls are nowhere to be heard."
Not true. There are screams/moans of pain throughout.

19. "The mortally hit woman's hand reaches for her head."
No the mortally hit woman is dead and does not move or say anything after she is shot at close range!!!

22. "The unbreakable front window"
"The "offender" fires his weapon from in (!) the car through his front window without causing any visible destruction. The video footage of his arrest as well shows no damage to the front window."
Wrong. As I have shown in previous posts, there are cracks/holes in the front window.

[Hervé]

...



https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/new-zealand.jpg
Inconclusive...

https://c.ndtvimg.com/2019-03/55u6mq2o_brenton-harrison-tarrant_650x400_16_March_19.jpg



https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlW1VmeXsg8jCFUET0zMwBxuf1GoSNm8n7xFgM31wAXLocMbiDtQ
... very conclusive...

[DaveToo]

Max Igan doesn't mention bare feet/blue socks bloke in the hallway.

Jim Stone points to this singular discrepancy as definitive -

http://82.221.129.208/.wo2.html

Some scrolling may be necessary to find the relevant still shots.


Zanshin, I covered the bare feet/blue socks 'anomaly' just above.

I honestly can't believe how amateurish/sloppy name truthers such as Jim Stone, Wolfgang Eggert,
Gordon Duff, Jim Fetzer, Robert Steele etc. can be!

It blows my mind really. This is not the first and likely won't be the last time I have found
careless analysis by well-known truthers.

Please I implore you, before posting some article or video here that you have found on the net as proof of something, try to take the time as I did, and do due diligence work yourself, checking and double-checking the claims being made.

[Zanshin]

Dave - I already readdressed that issue in my last post if you cared to read it properly.

Thank you for the link to the higher quality footage - which post-viewing has altered my perception
of the event as I have readily admitted.

My perception of this forum was a platform where folks could present an opinion or material for open discourse and debate
with a view to achieving some sort of consensus on a (usually controversial) topic - without the mudslinging and barbs.

Excellent research Dave - you have altered my perception in a particular area of this heinous event -

Now respectfully Please, I implore you, get over yourself.

[KiwiElf]

Memes can be useful - and this one fits the fakestream media narrative ;)

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[BMJ]

Kurt Haskell provides 18 points, out of his 41 point list, that indicate the New Zealand shooting was a false flag. As of the 16/3/19.


About Kurt Haskell, Quote:
"Since becoming a rare eyewitness to a false flag attack in 2009, Kurt has dedicating many thousands of hours to researching each subsequent false flag attack."

Link: https://www.kurthaskell.com/about


Was New Zealand mosque event real? What’s the evidence?
Quote:
"How many out of Kurt Ritchard Haskell’s 41 signs of a a false flag did this incident display? 18 so far!

Please note that not all of these items will be found in relation to every false flag event. Very few, if any, of these items should be found at a real event. Thus, when you start seeing several of these items appear in one event, it is most likely a false flag.

6. Key video is hidden. Still pictures, which are often grainy or unclear are released to support the official story.

8. The perpetrators are identified in record time.

13. New laws or military action take place as a result of the event.

14. The event receives an abnormal amount of press coverage.

15. The country where the event took place has recently irritated Israel in some way.

16. The event and perpetrators are set up to cause conflict between several different religious, ethnic or sexual orientation groups.

18. The friends and family of the victims do interviews that are not believable.

20. One or more bombs do not detonate.

22. An unbelievable hero story is released by the press on day two.

23. A manifesto is released by the perpetrator.

24. A drill is taking place at or near the event at the same time.

27. Little to no amateur cell phone video footage of the event is released.

29. An online video is found of the perpetrator acting crazy.

30. The details of the event make it impossible to not be reminded of other recent false flag events.

32. The perpetrators wore body armor.

33. Former military members played key roles in the event in some way.

35. Authorities are on the scene in record time and numbers that would not normally be possible In a short time period without prior knowledge.

37. Authorities immediately “find” evidence that ties the perpetrators to radical beliefs."

Link: http://tapnewswire.com/2019/03/new-zealand-mosque-event-whats-the-evidence/


Link to 41 indicators of a false flag.

Link: https://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/show-archives/the-underwear-bomber-whistle-blower-kurt-haskell

[Innocent Warrior]

Author anonymous, published by Henry Makow.

“I am from NZ and have a lot of information on the shooting and Freemasons in NZ. First a little background.

I got into what today is called Conspiracy Theories when I was 17. Back then it was called Cover-ups and should still be called that. You could only buy the books at Christian Bookstores as mainstream shops would not sell them in NZ.

My paternal Grandfather was Head of the Phoenix Lodge, a Blue Lodge in Westport. An English constitution Lodge. They told us at his funeral he was head of all the Lodges for the South Island.

My father refused to join. All doors to good employment were closed to him in my hometown. The father is only allowed to ask once, but my father said his father's lodge brothers never stopped hassling him to join for 30 years. They told him it would bring them prestige to bring in the son of a brother who could bring his own son in. My father rejected them as a rational man who would not join an organization who would not tell you what they were about until after you joined.

My other Grandfather had been a Lodge member who came home from a meeting one night and burned all his Lodge gear in front of his family and told them, "Have nothing to do with them, they are Evil."

His employment went badly after that, like all Masons who leave the Lodge in small towns.

For people who say they are for equality they certainly don't act like it.

THE SHOOTING PSY-OP

Here is some of what I know about the shooting psy-op. I have been hand circulating this where I live. Trying to get the information to non-Freemason cops and former non- Freemason military people. Publish as you feel appropriate.

Upon reaching the Rank of Master Mason a Freemason enters into a verbal contract known as The Oath of Obligation of a Master Mason. This Oath is damning and an act of Treason.

The Master Mason agrees in employment situations he will always employ a Freemason over a non-Freemason. This is why our courts, government Military and Intelligence heads are Freemasons.

The master mason also agrees to obey the call for aid from another Freemason and obey any higher ranked Freemason without hesitation unless it endangers his life or his family's life.

This is why all Royal Commissions of Inquiry are headed by a Freemason in NZ. This way they can protect their own and always have done. It is why the Erebus report was a litany of lies.

There can be no Just and Free society when people who enter secret agreements to advantage themselves over the rest of us end up in the top positions.

(In NZ all Royal Commissions of Inquiry have been headed by a Freemason or their spouses, utter cover-ups. In NZ to be a Sir or Dame you have to enter the order and be at least an Entered Apprentice to qualify.)

The Mosque shooter was identified as a member of the Masonic Forum in Canberra Australia. This means he is a Freemason. This was censored on the NZ internet by 9AM the next day by the Freemason Prime Minister and the Freemason Head of Police Mike Bush.

(NZ'ers have been denied the information via mass government censorship, this is Unlawful in NZ, please let NZ'ers know through any channels possible)

The Freemason shooter kills 50.

The Freemason cops didn't turn up on time and helped the two other shooters get away.

They then threatened anyone who shared video of the other shooters with 10 years in jail. (The 22-year-old who was hiding out the back in the car park during the shooting captured 8 seconds of footage on his cell phone of the other two shooters- also censored in NZ - has been arrested and threatened with 15 years in jail. It is likely his defence lawyer provided is a Freemason. This is how they railroad people in court in NZ.)

The Freemason PM says the Freemason Intel services knew nothing... but don't worry the Freemason courts will handle it.

She also starts an Inquiry, headed by a Freemason. The Freemason controlled NZ Media all bob their heads in time and never question the illegal actions the NZ govt and PM have taken.

The senior CHCH cops are Freemasons

Every head of police in NZ has been a Freemason.

The heads of the NZ military are all Freemasons.

The heads of the NZ Intelligence services are Freemasons.

The heads of the NZ courts and snr judges are Freemasons.

The NZ PM is a member of The Order of The Eastern Star, female Freemasons.

Head of Police in NZ is Mike Bush. Mike is from my hometown of Westport. That is how I know for a fact he is a very senior Freemason.

After WWII the western governments of the world promised their people they would never pass a law regulating human beings ever again because that is what the Nazi's did.

They have not as they can only create Commercial Law not Common Law which is set in stone and includes the Right to Privacy. No one can spy on you without your permission and the NZ govt, NZ Judges and Lawyers all know this. They have betrayed us all.

After WWII the people of NZ made agreements between themselves so no force like the Nazi's could rise again.

They promised never to accept Censorship or Criminalization of Opinion.

They promised if it ever happens the NZ people would march on Parliament the next day and drag them out into the streets and give them the beating of their lives and tell them they are fired.

They did so to preserve Freedoms the NZ soldiers had fought and died for. If you accept Censorship or Criminalization of Opinion you have reverted to what the Nazi's were doing to their people and all of Oppressed Europe.

people have forgotten the agreements their great grandparents made to preserve Freedom in NZ.

They said The price of Freedom is people will make mistakes. If you don't accept that then you don't really believe in Freedom.


There is an Agency which controls the NZ Media. They decide what is censored and what is promoted. My information is that agency is headed by a snr Freemason intelligence official, who is not a NZ'er. A foreign actor of another nation controls what is censored to the public in NZ. The NZ govt refuses to let you know this even exists.

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PS I have been hacked and threatened for trying to get this information out to the NZ people.

I have been anonymously distributing this to non-Freemason cops and non-Freemason ex-military in NZ and telling them to pass it on.

Later today I will e-mail every member of the NZ Media and let them know if they do not make full disclosures their relations will be informed they did not stand for their nation when needed and chose their careers over honestly. NZ only has 5 million people and only 2 degrees of separation as a result and social justice is more effective than legal justice here. These sort of tactics works well over here as people don't like to see their family name shamed.

I will also suggest whoever publishes it first will be King or Queen of the NZ Media afterwards and will be seen as a hero to the NZ people.

The day after will e-mail the Law Commission in NZ and let them know I am willing to expose the full mechanisms of Western Law for what they allowed to occur and the deception they have created to make money of people ignorant of The Law.

What will occur in NZ will be in their hands. Either it will be peaceful if they make full confessions and beg the public forgiveness or the former non-Freemason military and non-Freemason cops will take appropriate action.

In a small nation, the cops and military are our family, directly related to many of us. They will stand with us not with their Freemason commanders...as long as the information gets out.“

Source (https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/04/christchurch-massacre-gun-grab.html).

[KiwiElf]

Excellent Rachel :thumbsup: (and sadly true - Please refer to my NZ 8CHAN link on the previous page, Post #152 - it's near the end of that link)

The Christchurch cops were allegedly told to "stand down" by [*****] - does this sound familiar? :Angel: (they are two minutes away from the crime scene and it took them 30+ minutes to get there).

[DaveToo]

Could you spell out what parts of his take that you don't give him credibility for?
I'm interested to hear about it and what your take on it is?
Personally I couldn't find any fault in what he was saying really.


IMO, Igan, like Icke, (and a few others) is still banging the same old playbook and paradigm - note PAST TENSE. (They almost sound alike!). :facepalm:

I do not believe their viewpoints are as relevant as they once were prior to Trump's election - EVERYTHING changed at that point. "Their" Deep State plan went down the gurgler.

Both Icke & Igan rubbish Q & Trump, which is their prerogative; it is not my understanding of real events currently unfolding. (perhaps you might like to hop over to the Q thread and see what has been discussed over and above what is on this thread in the last few weeks)?

Like all false flag events, there is a hidden agenda (take your pick) and YES, real innocent people died; this was NOT a hoax. But to blame Trump, or Q or "White Nationalists" for this is nonsensical. That is straight out of the Deep State Leftist Playbook being pushed by the fakestream media narrative and American Democrats. And guess what? Q warned of that well in advance. ;)

I was generalizing about Igan when I said I couldn't find any fault in what he as saying. That's why I added "really" at the end.

When I said that I was not thinking about his comments about Trump or Q.

To me both Trump and Q are irrelevant to the political landscape. They are bit players, puppets.

Of course I don't blame Trump or Q for what occurred in NZ.
The events had deep state roots.
Tarrant was simply a patsy.

[DaveToo]

This question is posed to Kiwi's or anyone who is familiar with the appropriate laws in New Zealand.
Is it possible for a N.Z. citizen to discover the identity of a car owner by providing a vehicle license plate number to an appropriate N.Z. authority?

If yes, how is the process handled?

[KiwiElf]

This question is posed to Kiwi's or anyone who is familiar with the appropriate laws in New Zealand.
Is it possible for a N.Z. citizen to discover the identity of a car owner by providing a vehicle license plate number to an appropriate N.Z. authority?

If yes, how is the process handled?

Technically, under NZ Privacy Laws, no you can't, unless it was involved in a crime or accident & you were directly involved as a victim, ie a hit & run, and even then, not unless charges are bought against that person.

As a witness (not the victim) of such an incident, you would only find out by the Police, (on a need to know basis), or in court (or possibly the media) during or after the assailant was charged.

If you just wanted to know "who owns a particular car" (perhaps for the purposes of making an offer to buy it), then almost zero chance. (Once upon a time, you could quite easily). A possible exception might be a rare or club car, and members might point you to the owner, which again "technically" would be illegal. (More likely they'll take your details and pass those on to the owner to contact you).

(That being said, I'm sure there are a few ways to get around it. There are plenty of unscrupulous Lawyers around - and perhaps a "friend" in the know - who could probably bend the rules). ;)

[DaveToo]

This question is posed to Kiwi's or anyone who is familiar with the appropriate laws in New Zealand.
Is it possible for a N.Z. citizen to discover the identity of a car owner by providing a vehicle license plate number to an appropriate N.Z. authority?

If yes, how is the process handled?

Technically, under NZ Privacy Laws, no it isn't, unless it was involved in a crime or accident & you were directly involved as a victim, ie a hit & run, and even then, not unless charges are bought against that person....

Thanks Kiwi.

I will explain why I asked.

I have studied the Tarrant shooting video very carefully.
It is very clear there were accomplices/handlers in the crime.

I counted at least three.

One of the three, I call them Handler C, was sitting in a car parked just left of the mosque entrance.
Tarrant leaves the mosque to go back to his car to get another gun and more ammo.

When Tarrant returns to the mosque entrance driveway (he's still on the sidewalk) and is about to walk up to the
main entrance he sees Handler C's car begin to drive towards him to exit the parking lot.

Had this been any of the mosque attendees trying to flee, Tarrant would have shot and killed the driver immediately.
Instead, Tarrant continues walking down the street sidewalk and enters the second driveway to the parking lot, thereby
allowing Handler C to drive out from the main driveway to the street, unmolested.

Tarrant walks through the parking lot (after firing several shots at someone down the lane) using this circuitous route
and arrives at the front entrance to the mosque. Now Handler C's car is no longer parked at the door and has left.

When Tarrant left the mosque the first time he turned towards Handler C's car and was about to shoot at the driver/passenger
but stopped, recognizing them.
As he was looking at the car, the camera on his head captured the driver's license of this car.

It was a weird license in that it was crumpled up badly and did not match the condition of the vehicle which was an upscale sedan.
The license number can still quite easily be made out.

Now here's the thing...

Either the car belongs to Handler C or a regular mosque attendee.
If it belongs to Handler C and the police were really interested in catching all responsible for the shooting they would have traced the plate,
found the driver and arrested him/her.

If it belongs to a regular mosque attendee, they also would have traced the plate and found the driver.
But in this case, they would have questioned them with some very pointed questions.
Such as:

1. Why did you park your car just to the left of the mosque entrance, in a spot not designated for parking when there
were plenty of parking spots in the parking lot?
2. Why were you sitting in the car when the shooting was going on inside the church?
3. Why didn't you drive away when you heard the shooting going on?
4. Why didn't you drive away immediately after the killer (Tarrant) had left the mosque the first time?

If I, a simple layman can make these discoveries, then obviously a professionally trained police division can too.

Now it's possible that the plate was stolen and did not belong to the vehicle.
But we still should have heard statements about this from the police as well as statements about what happened at the scene.

[KiwiElf]

I'd say you were "right" on several counts. :) Put it in the category of "cover up".

(But keep digging; "inquiring minds", in addition to yourself, would like to know!) ;)

[BMJ]

An update to the Christchurch Mosques shootings aftermath.

Some thoughts, "People kill not guns".

This is not a safety measure, if it was they would implement a better screening process for gun owners and would have adopted it.

This pre planned knee jerk reaction is in fact only about one thing having "more power to control the people".

If the people have more guns than the police and military they can be a threat to the status quo, disarm the people then they are a lot easier to subdue in times of unrest.


New Zealand's gun buyback scheme ended on Friday, after a six-month process, initial figures estimate that 33,000 people handed in about 51,000 guns. Gun advocates say that up to two-thirds of the banned weapons have been retained, or about 113,000.

New Zealanders hand in 50,000 guns as buyback scheme ends, but some say it is not enough
Quote:
"Wellington banned the most lethal types of semi-automatic weapons less than a month after a gunman in March killed 51 people at two Christchurch mosques.

The police then launched a six-month program to buy the newly banned weapons from owners.

The buyback ended midnight on Friday, with gun collection points staying open late as police reported a surge in last-minute returns.

Provisional figures indicate 33,000 people handed in 51,000 guns.

Another 5,000 guns were collected as part of a parallel amnesty in which owners could hand over any type of firearm without any questions being asked but without getting compensated.

Owners also modified another 2,700 guns to make them legally compliant, while police said they had seized a further 1,800 guns from gangs since March.

And police said they were in the process of collecting another 1,600 guns from gun dealers....

The council estimates 170,000 semi-automatic weapons were in circulation before the amnesty was announced."

Link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-21/new-zealand-gun-buyback-ends-with-50000-firearms-handed-in/11821402

[DaveToo]

An update to the Christchurch Mosques shootings aftermath.

Some thoughts, "People kill not guns".
...


Thanks for the update BMJ.

I haven't pursued this case since my last post, but as I tried to make clear in it, if authorities were not involved in the killings themselves, they would have
traced the license plate of Handler C's car and notified the public of who they were and what their roles were in the killings, as well as Handlers A and B.

All of this "gun buyback scheme" is window dressing.
The video speaks for itself if anyone takes the time to analyze it carefully.
Tarrant had accomplices period. End of story. This is NOT what we were told.

If anyone has downloaded the video and needs guidance on how to spot the three handlers I will gladly assist you.
Just let me know.

[DaveToo]

Tarrant quietly pleads guilty today from his jail cell via a video link, because of the COVID-19 restrictions.

Hmmmm...... now there will be no trial....hmmmm...isn't that convenient?
No opportunity to bring up handlers A, B & C.

This stinks to high _ell.

[Lazarus]

This comes across as a self sacrificial whistleblower action

[DaveToo]

This comes across as a self sacrificial whistleblower action

I would never characterize it as such.

First of all, what whistle did Tarrant blow?

Secondly, when an operation is as sophisticated as this one was,
there is usually an agreement between the killer and the handlers/higher ups
such that any pleads made after incarceration are just window dressing.

The killer is released behind the scenes, occasionally making appearances
'in jail' to make it look like all is well.

Of course there are cases when the killer is betrayed and they renege on the
original deal, leaving him holding the bag and stuck in jail permanently.

[BMJ]

CHRISTCHURCH MOSQUE SHOOTING - THE INDISPUTABLE FACTS

To view the video go to
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/TheCrowhouse/
you will see a header bar that says " Some videos are not shown due to your current sensitivity settings, click here to show them."
Click that bar then the video of this title will be listed to view.

Sorry guys there seems to be censoring at ever turn these days. :confused:

Link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/F71MCsT7oUG0/

TheCrowhouse
25 April 2021

WARNING: All the people of the New Zealand can face very heavy penalties for viewing this material, I am not joking here this a fact, so view at your own discretion.

[Bill Ryan]

I never saw this coming:

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/23487

UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/23487

[ExomatrixTV]

The WEF (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum) sponsored puppet and criminal, former Prime Minister Jacinda Adern, exploited the March 15th, 2019 'Christchurch massacre' for her own ends.

Once she was seen as a strong and kind virtuous leader, she was well equipped to advance the next scam to hit New Zealand (and the world) - the great pandemic hoax!

Heralded on the international stage and bolstered by the usual presstitute media stories backing up the con, she now prances all over the world attempting to control the internet and silence any dissenting voices against the globalist agenda. All backed by the current NZ government headed by Christopher (just as guilty) Luxon.

Anyone with a functional brain knows that the official narrative of that 'incident' is, quite frankly, bull****, and has more holes in it, than Swiss cheese!

Counterspin Media's Kelvyn Alp & Hannah Spierer are facing charges of up to 14yrs in prison for daring to highlight the scam. One other is facing up to 7yrs.

Jacinda, was this video one of the rehearsals to ensure maximum buy-in from an emotional public? Was it included in your 'enquiry?'

No matter what force you bring against us, whether lawfare, the criminal police force, economic attacks, or character assassinations, Counterspin Media is one platform that you shall not break!

We will be New Zealand's last line of defence of truth.

We shall not be silenced!

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source (https://twitter.com/COUNTERSPIN111/status/1781974630124998916)