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Daozen
17th March 2019, 22:59
My name's Daozen and I'm a procrastinator.

*Applause*

Here's the game:

- Hold yourself publicly accountable so you don't waste a day, or a life.
- Set a goal.
- Set a timelimit.
- Post when the goal's completed.

Microgoals are better as part of a bigger goal. i.e you want to build a house... so today's microgoal is to visit the planning office, for example. Even the biggest project can be broken into microtasks.

*

GOAL:
TIMELIMIT:
DONE: ???

~

I'll start:

GOAL: Tidy house from top to bottom while studying Chinese and Charisma.
TIMELIMIT/LOCAL TIME:3 hours only. It's 6:59am now, I have to finish at 9:59
REWARD:A better house for visiting guests.
DONE: ???

Mike
17th March 2019, 23:40
best thread idea ive seen in a while!

https://media1.giphy.com/media/HjheuybfwDGnu/source.gif

Flash
18th March 2019, 00:18
My name's Daozen and I'm a procrastinator.

*Applause*

Here's the game:

- Hold yourself publicly accountable so you don't waste a day, or a life.
- Set a goal.
- Set a timelimit.
- Post when the goal's completed.

Microgoals are better as part of a bigger goal. i.e you want to build a house... so today's microgoal is to visit the planning office, for example. Even the biggest project can be broken into microtasks.

*

GOAL:
TIMELIMIT:
DONE: ???

~

I'll start:

GOAL: Tidy house from top to bottom while studying Chinese and Charisma.
TIMELIMIT/LOCAL TIME:3 hours only. It's 6:59am now, I have to finish at 9:59
REWARD:A better house for visiting guests.
DONE: ???

I am Flash and I am a procrastinatora (it sounds more sophisticated when putting the feminine letter a at the end lol than just plain procrastinator lol)

I truly am.


Goal: correct my daughter college homework (for the grammar, not the ideas - this is what partial aphasia does even if it is not quite appearant anymore)
Go class my papers while doing a few washing of clothes (brassées de lavage)
20 min of vielight

Time line: 3 hours
done:???

RunningDeer
18th March 2019, 00:32
I got tired of hearing my sister say she’s a procrastinator. So I purchased a short book on procrastination. It was in the same place where I left it. I brought it home to make an outline to help with the paralyzing behavior. The next visit it was on one of the piles on the kitchen table.

She got all kinds of annoyed when I told her that procrastination serves her: it's better not to begin, than to fail... that’s too dark a place to live 24/7.


https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

As for myself, every day is different and everything gets done. New ideas and efficient ways continue to come through. I love the way it all works. After all these years, I figured it out. I’m open and in the flow.

I jump out of bed and do it all again. I catch myself at least once a day saying, “I feel like I’m playing house.” I’m so, so grateful to be a part of the mystery. It’s simple and uncomplicated once I realized that’s all it needs to be.


Daozen
18th March 2019, 02:15
Welcome one and all!!!

That was the most productive 3 hours I spent in a long time. I didn't learn Chinese, but binge-listened to Jordan Peterson and got a LOT of tidying done. I didn't flake or take more than a 2 minute break. I reckon I was literally 300% more efficient.

*

10:15am.

GOAL: 90 minutes tidying then 15 minutes cardio.
TIMELIMIT: HIGH NOON!!!
DONE: EDIT: Yes, done. I moved the cardio to later cos I had some emergency sweeping to do, but I spent a solid 90 minutes on cleaning. I switched off the internet and just used an MP3 player to learn Chinese. Very productive....!

*

Daozen
19th March 2019, 00:06
Discipline is FUN. It means you have more time to enjoy music, friends and life. Yesterday, a combination of Nutrobal, MMS, citric acid and Kerosene the night before raised my energy levels back to when I was 35 and had a ton of energy. I haven't felt like that in a while. Nearly picked up my electric guitar again. Nearly.

Once you develop the habit and focus of discipline it carries over into other tasks. Like bicep curls for your mind.

Tuesday March 19th

HOUSE
- Develop solid morning routine: Switch on Chinese MP3 upon waking, make MMS, pray for energy and guidance, do some exercise, write TODO list online.
- Pick up card from Post Office.
- Take out rubbish. Go for walk and stretch.
- Buy a good notepad so I can work on the train.
- Binge watch videos on discipline.

WORK
- Fill in PRs, send MP3s out.

APPS
- Put Hyperloop on Github and learn how to use Git from Atom. NOT YET!!!
- Make list of open source forums and Facebook groups. NOT YET!!!

[[[MARCH 20TH. CHANGED MYKRA DESIGN INSTEAD. PRODUCTIVE DAY.]]]

WRITING
- Fill in Nutrobal blog.
- Decide whether blogspot or Medium is better for this city. MEDIUM? ASK K.


TIMELIMIT?

As much as possible, today.

Bill Ryan
19th March 2019, 00:16
a combination of Nutrobal, MMS, citric acid and Kerosene

Wow!! (At least. :) ) Do say more, maybe on a different thread?

:focus:

Daozen
19th March 2019, 00:44
The latter three are well documented on here... When I mix up MMS in the morning, I put extra citric acid in until the water tastes lemony. That gives it an extra kick, and makes it better for energy.

For now, Nutrobal/Ibutamoren/MK677 is the same peptide. Lots of info online. It's a secretagogue that stimulates HGH production. Check out LiveLikeAViking on youtube, and watch the transformation in his face over 6 months. He's taking HGH shots, but MK677 does the same thing... HGH Day 29 is a good start.

Then check out Dr Life on HGH, and 60 year old woman on HGH. Tons of inspiring videos.

Will write it up when I can. But only three weeks in and my energy levels are a lot better.

Daozen
19th March 2019, 01:08
a combination of Nutrobal, MMS, citric acid and Kerosene

Wow!! (At least. :) ) Do say more, maybe on a different thread?

:focus:

Here you go Bill. I'd been meaning to write this up for my parents for a while, so thanks for nudging me to get it done. BTW, it is ALL on topic. It all comes under transformation and health, so feel free to ask any questions here. I've been meaning to minimize my internet footprint for a while, so will probably just stay on this thread.

https://medium.com/@shiningsea3000/hgh-and-nutrobal-mk677-anti-aging-transformations-ce724462bcb2

Zanshin
19th March 2019, 01:46
What a great thread Daozen - you've inspired me!

Maybe I'll start tomorrow:bigsmile:

Satori
19th March 2019, 02:29
What a great thread Daozen - you've inspired me!

Maybe I'll start tomorrow:bigsmile:

You beat me to the punch Zanshin. I was going to say something along the lines of what you said.

Denise/Dizi
19th March 2019, 02:42
I was going to reply yesterday but I thought, "It can wait"

Look at all of you over achievers giggle...

Daozen
20th March 2019, 00:39
WEDNESDAY MARCH 20TH

Welcome all! Gotta finish the outstanding tasks from yesterday today. Completed tasks are in light blue. Turquoise even.Used coconut oil on my face last night. Skin better.

Make a notepad!!!! Then train journey's become productive. And get a box to put all your work things in....

That is all for now...

Daozen
22nd March 2019, 03:00
Friday 22nd March

I guess you have to learn to love the grind. That's a cheeseball phrase, but it's true. No grind, no Valhalla.

- Do Progress Reports
- Listen to Chinese all day
- Find MP3 player (didn't make backups. STUPID!)
- Do washing
- Use Git from Atom.

Zanshin
22nd March 2019, 03:25
Hey Daozen -

just to let you know my last post wasn't completely tongue in cheek.

Starting today - setting aside time daily for meditation (something I used to do)
Just focusing on breathe and empty mind to start with.

I guess I'm easing into the grind :bigsmile: - although for me, I know this is exactly where my focus should be.

Daozen
22nd March 2019, 09:01
No offence taken Zanshin I know it's all in fun.... all are welcome.

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I realized this thread was most powerful when I set time limits and boundaries.

So....

Gotta leave and see Kinda at 6:45. In the shower at 5:45. Pick up clothes at 530pm. Now... 30 minutes. Let's make em good.

Guy Ritchie and Joe Rogan. Master of Your Own Kingdom.

Hindu Squats. Rocking Planks. Nothing else. Be a man, Daozen,

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Daozen
22nd March 2019, 09:59
DONE. Been testing out Twitter... In 280 characters you can get a lot of ideas across. Need to be active on less threads. Twitter might help me balance my communication more.

This is the era of the grey hats. Angelic diplomats who can visit Satan's court cos they know respect and balance. Did they sign a dark contract decades back? We watch youtoob and worry they are co-opted. Maybe they are. But they still have infinite wisdom to dispense.

Daozen
22nd March 2019, 23:47
Saturday March 23rd

Leave house at 930....1 Hour 45 mins to go.
Tidy room - 10 mins.
Listen to Jordan Peterson and Chinese.... do lots of planks.
Tell - I might be coming to YS.

That's all.

Keep it Simple, Stupid!!!

Flash
23rd March 2019, 00:02
Saturday March 23rd

Leave house at 930....1 Hour 45 mins to go.
Tidy room - 10 mins.
Listen to Jordan Peterson and Chinese.... do lots of planks.
Tell - I might be coming to YS.

That's all.

Keep it Simple, Stupid!!!

I am tired reading your schedule.....

It reminds me of my 70 hours week work plus single mothering, I had just 1/2 hour for me per day, between 6 and 6:30 am, and imagine, I thought I should do sport in this half hour.

One thing taught in some time management courses is to plan at a minimum 2 to 4 hours of nothing during work time, in order to fill it with the unexpected. Leave space for unexpected stuff. During work.

I think the same should be done for off work time, just 4 to 8 hours free per week minimum.

Allowing time with family, children needs, etc.

Mike
23rd March 2019, 07:08
sat 23rd..

- do 2 hot/cold showers today.

- do wim hof breathing exercises

Daozen
23rd March 2019, 11:17
sat 23rd..

- do 2 hot/cold showers today.

- do wim hof breathing exercises

Good start.. now what about the other 15.5 hours :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

And you didn't admit you're a procrastinator Mike... c'mon mang, join the 12 step program..

* * * * *

Went out last night. Saw a friend this afternoon. Tonight, gonna stay in and build my app. One app to rule them all. Sucks to stay in building software on a Saturday night, but I really have to get this done. I've drank enough beers in pubs for several lifetimes. If I put in 50 or so hours of solitary coding sacrifice into this app, it will open the door to many, many parties, friends and fun. We're gonna go promote this microfinance app on the streets.

Get your head down Daozen... Life is short, and heaven is watching.

Mike
23rd March 2019, 15:58
sat 23rd..

- do 2 hot/cold showers today.

- do wim hof breathing exercises

Good start.. now what about the other 15.5 hours :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

And you didn't admit you're a procrastinator Mike... c'mon mang, join the 12 step program..

* * * * *

Went out last night. Saw a friend this afternoon. Tonight, gonna stay in and build my app. One app to rule them all. Sucks to stay in building software on a Saturday night, but I really have to get this done. I've drank enough beers in pubs for several lifetimes. If I put in 50 or so hours of solitary coding sacrifice into this app, it will open the door to many, many parties, friends and fun. We're gonna go promote this microfinance app on the streets.

Get your head down Daozen... Life is short, and heaven is watching.


oh of course! mea culpa....my name is mike and i'm a procrastinator..

...

ok, today i've done 2 sessions of the wim hof breathing, and have taken 1 hot/cold shower.

going into work in a few mins. upon return at 7pm i'm going to do 2 more breathing sessions and 1 more shower.

then i'm going to watch 'free solo'

Mike
24th March 2019, 03:39
2 wim hof breathing sessions done, and 1 hot/cold shower done.

putting on 'free solo' now...

onawah
28th March 2019, 17:32
Blame Your Brain if You Procrastinate
09/18/2018 by Beth Levine
https://jonbarron.org/sites/default/files/procrastination-how-to-stop.jpg
https://jonbarron.org/happiness-mental-health/blame-your-brain-if-you-procrastinate?utm_campaign=Daily%20Health%20Tips%2C%20Mon-Fri&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=71050175&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8S7qS-s2K7mRkAaFN-OYx99mFRlJ_yUSfuzrI7fp0EAZstnOC7NmGvbtd_B0rpbQsGOiW5BakPyb0Gtr7gi1eY-Xl_zQ&_hsmi=71050175
"Are you the type of person who will take a look at your to-do list and put off everything on it until the last possible moment? It may be hard for others in your life, such as your spouse or coworkers, to understand how you can always seem to find something else to do rather than tackle the task at hand right away. You might not be able to adequately explain your reluctance to get things done, but now there’s an answer you can give them: your brain made you do it. Yes, that’s right, there is new research that suggests some of us are simply hard-wired to be procrastinators.

The study, which was conducted at Ruhr University Bochum in Germany, found that the brains of individuals who have a tendency toward procrastination are different than the brains of those who generally take care of things immediately.1 These results are based on an investigation that included 264 healthy men and women, ranging in age from 18 to 35. None of the subjects had previously been diagnosed with any psychiatric or neurological problems.

Warp Speed from Baseline Nutritionals
After completing questionnaires designed to evaluate their proclivity for either finishing tasks right away or delaying their completion, each subject underwent brain scans. A series of MRIs was taken to attain measurements of several regions of the brain as well as the connections between them.

The scans offered proof that those with a tendency toward “poor action control”—the scientific terminology for procrastination—have a larger amygdala, which is the area of the brain responsible for motivation. What’s more, the images also showed that the connection between the amygdala and the dorsal anterior cingulate cortex (dorsal ACC), which influences our ability to take action, is weaker in those who procrastinate.

Interestingly, the amygdala is involved in how we judge situations, with a particular focus on the negative outcomes our actions might produce. This would seem counter to what we might expect in those with a larger amygdala since delaying a task is more likely to produce an adverse result, but one theory is that overthinking or anxiety about taking action is what leads to a hesitation or delay in response.

The research was limited by its fairly small population sample. In addition, all of the volunteers were relatively young adults, so it is impossible to know whether these deviations in the brain might occur in children or older people as well—or perhaps are the result of years of procrastination rather than its cause. Yet despite these issues, the findings are compelling and contribute to our understanding of how brain structure can influence behavior.

But what does this all mean for you, if you are a procrastinating type? Unfortunately, not much at this point. We don’t know from the current research whether there might be ways to strengthen those brain connections between the amygdala and the dorsal ACC that could help you to take action more promptly or whether simply knowing that your proclivity is hardwired might allow you to exert more willpower to overcome it.

However, there are a few tricks you can learn that may enable you to become less of a procrastinator. One helpful method is to get yourself organized. Make a detailed list of exactly what you need to do and set goals of accomplishing one or more of the tasks in a set amount of time. Another way to get motivated is to break each task down into smaller components. Lots of us experience dread when we realize how much we need to complete, but if each item is broken down into the smallest of steps, it can seem far less daunting.

If your problem sometimes stems from difficulty getting focused on the task at hand, you might want to give meditation a try. A 2010 study at the University of California, Davis showed that meditation can lead to better concentration, even when performing tedious tasks.2 And taking a natural brain-boosting formula containing herbs that can help you reach a state of relaxed alertness, improve concentration and attention span, and increase your facility for novelty seeking behavior might make it just that much easier to take on tasks in the here and now."

Schluter, Caroline; et al. "The Structural and Functional Signature of Action Control." Psychological Science. 17 August 2018. Accessed 12 September 2018. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797618779380.
2. MacLean, Katherine A.; et al. "Intensive Meditation Training Improves Perceptual Discrimination and Sustained Attention." Psychological Science. 11 May 2010. Accessed 13 September 2018. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797610371339.

(And of course --Attention MIKE -- there is a supplement that helps with procrastination--at the article link.)

avid
28th March 2019, 18:54
Slothdom, procrastination, ostrich-head syndrome, I am guilty of all lately. I blame the weather, the avoidance of a neighbour’s cat (who loves me and wants to move in), my pathetic fear of driving a few miles away and only on A roads, my panic attacks to go a mile downhill on a country lane to do grave duties in case I meet a giant farm vehicle, and now closing my blinds to prevent that daft cat pointing to his mouth when I’ve said I won’t feed him.. It’s all too much! I must do a timetable of cleaning asap, as I’ve done the front garden.
So, tomorrow will set a timetable, a room at a time, weather or none... tomorrow....!

Daozen
2nd April 2019, 12:42
avid, hope you break through it.. it's a problem for all of us.

Onawah, cheers for that... will read deeply another time. I know taking the homeopathic remedy helps me stop procrastinating...

20:37... April 2nd.

- Rest for half an hour.
- Take MMS.
- Tidy for 3 hours while learning Chinese.
- Exercise.
- DO REPORTS FOR WORK!!!

onawah
2nd April 2019, 15:37
My procrastinator dream come true--a domestic helper!
Yesterday she bought 5 plastic bins for me and organized my cupboard where all the vitamins and supplements and teas and sprouting seeds are kept so that things won't fall out and hit me on the head anymore when I open the cupboard door, and I don't have to sort through bottles and boxes and bags to find what I'm looking for.
I can just pull out the bin and easily spot what I need.
Easy Peasy!
Next week I'm putting her to work staightening out my other cupboards.

Daozen
2nd April 2019, 18:48
I fell asleep. Angels in heaven forgive me...Sounds awesome Onawah... is she free Wednesday afternoons. I got a kitchen to clean? ha. Recently I realized the key to success is gutting up and dealing with the boring tasks in the physical world. I wonder if some of us Avalon types manage to avoid this sometimes? I know I do.

For me, tidying is incredibly boring, so I don't do it. Recently I have started to listen to Chinese and Jordan Peterson while I do it. That passes the time. There's no use in having expansive ideas if you cannae deal with muck and paperwork.

Tidying while listening to epic music is something every human being should experience once in their lives.

I have a living room to tidy. Christ it is boring and thankless. Pray for me Avalon.

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onawah
2nd April 2019, 21:47
You guys! :tsk:
I suggest that you give yourself a break and hire a domestic helper!!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/We_Can_Do_It%21.jpg/250px-We_Can_Do_It%21.jpg
Or would that just be too easy??
Well, I'm praying that you will take my suggestion, anyway. :angel:
Because I think you are being too hard on yourself, and it's kind of painful to see. :( :sad:
I'll bet you could find someone who delights in tidying up and organizing :happythumbsup: and would be happy to help you out for a modest fee.
And she probably wouldn't even mind if she suspects that you think it's "womens' work"...
But does tidying really freak you out that much :fear: or is it really just that you like to gripe about it? :argue:
It's Spring time and time to Spring into cleaning, so you really should deal with it one way or the other.
Oh, wait. I forgot. This is the Procrastinators thread! :facepalm:



I have a living room to tidy. Christ it is boring and thankless. Pray for me Avalon.

Daozen
13th April 2019, 22:07
Onawah.... it's not that I hate tidying. It's just I get bored without brainfood. Epic music or learning Chinese is a good way to stop me getting bored. Appreciate your presence here.

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0604.

Visitor coming at 1130.

- Tidy room. Learn Chinese, listen to JP til 9 or 10.
- 1000 Order more MK? (Did you watch those videos, Bill?)
- Shower at 1045.

onawah
13th April 2019, 23:25
Hey Daozen :waving:That boredom may actually be due to a desire to block out troubling/nagging/distracting thoughts that catch up to you when you aren't feeding your head with new input.
Meditation could help with that, as it can help you more quickly burn through a lot of that mental garbage that just clogs us up and weighs us down.
Once you have shed enough of that, it becomes much easier to just be mindful and enjoy simply paying full attention to where you are, what you are doing, seeing, feeling -- simply being present -- without thinking, obsessing, etc. monopolizing your attention. :flower:
Just a thought...

Orobo
3rd June 2019, 12:36
I was actually thinking of going to write something worthwhile on this thread, but having nothing important and pressing to do I'll just excuse myself and come back later.

RunningDeer
27th December 2019, 23:26
2 wim hof breathing sessions done, and 1 hot/cold shower done.

putting on 'free solo' now...

https://i.imgur.com/lXjVzMu.gif THE NORDIC MORNING ROUTINE - ICE BATH (2:20 minutes)
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Ewan
15th July 2021, 09:27
Very amusing take on quite an affliction, I suffer from this type of behaviour - but did not always. I suspect a series of setbacks reached a kind of breaking point where I developed a 'what's the point' attitude.

I'm supposed to be doing something else right now!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arj7oStGLkU