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Sam.Bowman
1st April 2019, 13:54
Hi all.

My Dad is sick and I have to help him. He hasn’t eaten in 10 days so he needs his nutrients.

If anyone has any Liposomal vitamin recipes that they would be willing to share with me, I’d be so grateful.

I’ve made Liposomal Vitamin C and Quercetin and Liposomal Curcumin, all made with 98% none denatured ethyl alcohol.

Regards

Sam

Agape
1st April 2019, 14:12
Hi Sam, it would be completely irrelevant to give you or your dad any advice unless you can share his medical CV and what is he suffering from.

Vitamins alone won’t fix it.

What about seeing doctor ???

Dad is not a cat so you can’t force feed him even vitamins. He may have to be put on intravenous diet if he can’t eat at all.

Best wishes 🙏🌟🙏

haroldsails
1st April 2019, 16:43
Hi Sam, I'm new here, but I couldn't get past your post without saying something. I think Agape has it right - you need a medical pro in this situation, asap. You don't mention whether or not you are keeping him hydrated..you need to do that.
I am holding you and your dad in my intentions this morning. peace - haroldsails

Daozen
1st April 2019, 17:12
Vitamin C should be the first remedy given in nearly every situation... especially cancer, heart diseases, bacteria and viruses. If you cant get hold of Liposomal C, you can get sodium ascorbate by the kilo on iherb and ebay...

Iodine is also very potent...

ThePythonicCow
2nd April 2019, 01:38
Vitamin C should be the first remedy given in nearly every situation... especially cancer, heart diseases, bacteria and viruses. If you cant get hold of Liposomal C, you can get sodium ascorbate by the kilo on iherb and ebay...

Iodine is also very potent...

Iodine is an oxidant (electron receiver), while Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant (electron donor). So I would expect the two to cancel each other out, if taken at the same time. But my chemistry is not good enough to know that reliably.

ThePythonicCow
2nd April 2019, 02:31
Hi all.

My Dad is sick and I have to help him. He hasn’t eaten in 10 days so he needs his nutrients.

If anyone has any Liposomal vitamin recipes that they would be willing to share with me, I’d be so grateful.

I’ve made Liposomal Vitamin C and Quercetin and Liposomal Curcumin, all made with 98% none denatured ethyl alcohol.
My (limited) understanding is that the liposomal nutritents that I have prepared, using an ultrasonic cleaner, were really more like emulsions, and hence are not able to pass through the body's digestive system and into the tissues and cells where the payload is most useful.

"Real" liposomes are a spherical vesicle having at least one lipid bilayer, as in the following image:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Liposome.jpg
The smaller, more biologically useful such liposomal vesicles require more expensive equipment than a home ultrasonic cleaner, and (so I'm told) provide substantially more benefit. So far as I know, the only practical way, unless you're wealthy, to get actually useful liposomal encapsulated nutrients is from a manufacturer who has invested in the expensive equipment and skills needed to make it.

Regarding non-denatured ethyl alcohol, I don't recall ever hearing of using that in preparing any such material. Home "liposomal" (likely just emulsions) preparations use lecithin and an oil, such as from sunflower seeds. I cannot imagine that alcohol would be useful as a major ingredient in any such preparation.

I would purchase any such products from a reliable manufacturer. One such, so far as I know, is LivOn Labs (https://www.livonlabs.com/why-livon-labs/).

The nutrients that your Dad might need most desperately depend on what he's most critically short of. That might include water, one or more of the vitamins, especially water soluble vitamins, various amino acids (proteins) and one or more of the minerals (there are many essential minerals in our diet, so it's hard to know which he might need most). If your Dad is suffering from some sort of toxic bacteria or virus, then he might most need to fight that pathogen. If he's emaciated, he might need the energy of fats or sugars.

One would need a medical (whether conventional allopathic, or a more unconventional) expert to give anything resembling useful advice. Much depends on both knowing the healing arts and examining the patient.

Such questions cannot be answered in any usefully competent or remotely legal way by non-experts, nor by anyone who has almost no knowledge of the patient.

Daozen
2nd April 2019, 10:37
Vitamin C should be the first remedy given in nearly every situation... especially cancer, heart diseases, bacteria and viruses. If you cant get hold of Liposomal C, you can get sodium ascorbate by the kilo on iherb and ebay...

Iodine is also very potent...

Iodine is an oxidant (electron receiver), while Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant (electron donor). So I would expect the two to cancel each other out, if taken at the same time. But my chemistry is not good enough to know that reliably.

Yes that's true. Im not sure if they exactly cancel each other out, but Vit C will make iodine less potent, by çonverting the Iodine to Iodine, or something similar. Iodine FB groups recommend taking them apart. For practical reasons, Vit C is better in the morning, and Iodine at night, as the latter tends to make people sleepy.

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In Reaction # 1 iodide ions react with hydrogen peroxide to produce iodine element which is blue in the presence of starch. BUT, before that can actually happen, the Vitamin C quickly reacts and consumes the elemental iodine.


https://www.imaginationstationtoledo.org/educator/activities/iodine-clock-reaction

PurpleLama
2nd April 2019, 11:00
Grain alcohol should only be used, not denatured alcohol, and that for making tinctures and extracts, not for liposomal concoctions. What the body takes in should ever be digestible.

Also, vitamin c is very water soluble, so the liposomal preparation make it into something like a time release vitamin, I am unsure of the efficacy of preparing such with other compounds.