Inter-Dimensional-Rods captured on video?

[Bob]

Well this was kinda interesting..

Let's start with some specs - on a NEST camera running in Infra-Red (Night mode) - perfectly dark room

1080p (1920 x 1080) at 30 frames/sec, H.264 encoding, HDR
8-megapixel (4K) color sensor

My friend has this camera running for security and he mentioned some interesting objects appear about 3AM-ish..

I have a short video of one of the objects infront of the camera doing a track from out of the ceiling (top left) and then heads over towards the kitchen counter, and does what looks like a barrel roll (??) and takes off upwards and disappears just before entering the ceiling again.

I did play this back using windows media player, windows movie player and VLC player. VLC player gave me the best image..

I did some high frequency sharpness boost so I could see if there were any details. There is pixelation a bit from the original compression, although I did do a screen cap and saved it in BMP.

It looks like it has two halves sorta joined together, and does NOT look like the standard strange insect wings movement. (We are capturing 30 frames per second out of the camera into digital storage).

One can move the movie frame by frame, and one will NOT see (I don't think) the "flight-path"..

Loop it.

There is a small critter on the couch which seems to be watching it move to the lowest trajectory, and it gets off the couch to apparently watch (maybe want to chase it?) it..

Now this is where to me it gets bizarre...

Flying rods that have some great flight deviation activities without showing any WING motion (like insects will on vid camera) I find intriguing..

BUT

when I ran the sharpness, the FLIGHT PATH showed up BEFORE the "thing" actually flew it.. !!

Take a very close look at the image, and you can see what appears to be an outline of where the "thing" will travel..

Any ideas folks?

http://chanlo.com/images/Rod-1(still).jpg


http://chanlo..com/images/Rod-1(still).bmp

This is the oddest "rod" image I have ever seen.

Here is the mp4 movie:

http://chanlo.com/images/Rods-1.mp4

Bugs?

or something else..

---> But there are no obvious critters that one can see, and that the little animal seems interested in this might mean something.. AND in the still photo, the FLIGHT PATH appears BEFORE the object flies along it... I can understand camera issues, fast moving vibrating insect wings, but BEFORE the object flies into it, the flight path appears??

[Bob]

There are a TON of internet articles and speculations about "flying rods"...

for instance - http://www.news9.com/story/27445773/news-9-investigates-the-phenomenon-of-rods


"At first I thought they were insects, birds you know floating close to the lens of the camera," he said.

However, at such a high shutter setting, he says he eliminated the possibility of it being an insect or a bird, but something else, something mysterious.

"We think it's a living entity of some kind. It does have behavior of being alive," said Escamilla. "They're very evasive, they're super fast."

Escamilla calls this entity a ROD, measuring one to six feet long with a cylinder body and multiple sets of wings.

"We don't know what they're doing here. We don't know how long they've been here," he said. "We have rock carvings that appears to show RODS on carve drawings from 50,000 years ago."

Skeptics, however, don't buy into the ROD theory. Skeptics like Mark Zimmerman, an assistant Professor of Photography at the University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond.

"I hate to call myself a skeptic, but I'm probably labelled as that because I just think there's some sort of scientific answer for things like this," said Zimmerman. "I think it's interesting and makes for a good topic of discussion."

In fact, he discussed the phenomenon in class recently after one of his students, Erick Perry, captured what appears to be a ROD in a photograph taken for a class assignment.

"It was actually somebody in class who pointed it out," said Perry.

As part of the assignment, Perry took the same photograph at a cemetery during different times of the day. In the night photograph, a white object appeared in the upper right-handed corner.

"People in class joked around about it, like UFOs, but most likely, it was probably like a bug or a plane or something," he said. "The fact that it was in a cemetery made it a little more creepy."

Zimmerman agrees the object is more than likely not out of this world.

"You can capture planes as they're going across the sky, satellites, things that you typically wouldn't see other than like a dot typically when you look up," he said. "Whereas with the longer shutter, when it's open, things will move and light will reflect off of it."

Wanting to prove his point, Zimmerman shot a series of photographs at different exposure times around a porch light, capturing what appears to be objects similar to Rods, but actually turned out to be moths. Like other camera experts, Zimmerman says cameras are capable of producing artifacts, something in the picture that wasn't actually there.

Escamilla viewed Perry's photograph from class and says the mysterious object is not a ROD, but perhaps an airplane. However, he says that doesn't disprove his ROD theory.

"Each object has its own certain footprint, it's certain pattern of flight, you can tell what an insect looks like, you can tell what a bird looks like, a dragonfly and a ROD is a ROD," he said.

Escamilla says RODS can be seen anywhere but their hotbeds are in Washington DC, New Orleans, Canada, Mexico, Texas, Arizona and California the U.S. He says they've also been captured in Scotland, Russia, Japan, China, Germany and the UK.

Escamilla has seen RODS in photographs and video of space and even underwater. He even spied a ROD in video taken from SkyNews9 during tornado coverage in 1999.

"Those RODS are huge. That one white ROD that comes out of the top of the cloud, that cloud front was 10 miles away from the helicopter and it comes out in three frames. That thing must have been a 100 feet in length," said Escamilla.

So what do you believe? Do rods exist among us, these strange living things that appear and disappear in the blink of an eye, caught at just the right moment in time?

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Bob

the FLIGHT PATH showed up BEFORE the "thing" actually flew it.. !!
It's almost like the thing is on the film already?
maybe what we see as the thing is only the one section that shows to our eye's, the whole thing being like a train of carriages?

[Pam]

What I find interesting is the way it sort of dives and then elevates. It is either exerting energy or there was another force that lifted it towards the end, maybe a draft or a fan? If there was no external force it seems to have it's own energy.

[conk]

Interesting how the cat jumps down as the rod flies by. Our cat is always seemingly staring at something we can't see. She will get down low, her tail will fluff out, and she utters a low guttural sound. She tracks it with her eyes, the something we can't see. Very disconcerting at times. Once she was tracking it, her tail flying back and forth, with her fur standing up and BINGO! She ran down the stairs crying out loud. The something scared the bejesus out of her. She may be seeing the orbs we capture on video as they zip around the room. The orbs are especially active when my daughter practices singing and playing guitar. Wonder if orbs and rods are cousins?

[Bob]

I've been in that home, no fans were running. Good thought tho !

The shape of the image pre-trail, rounded in front and concave in the back.. intriguing ..

I could suggest that the friend put up an ionizer or UV bug catcher to see if anything shows up in the capture , or some sticky tape to see if it catches small flying critters..

The Infra-Red light is 940 nanometers. I don't know if that is significant.

When over in the Dulce' area I was using my smartphone camera to capture sky objects which absolutely could not be seen with the eye.

In another thread, there is a discussion about animals being able to see or perceive ghosts.. Is the significance a shifted optical spectrum to evoke invisibility?

A lot of questions here..

I'd want to believe (thanks Fox Mulder ! ) that there is some sort of time-like event happening if there is an inter-dimensional characteristic happening. I just don't know.

@Sunny-side-up.. "almost like the thing is on the film already? maybe what we see as the thing is only the one section that shows to our eye's, the whole thing being like a train of carriages? "

people have used film to capture these things, and the "rods" captured on video appear on slow frame/shutter setting cameras.. which of course leads one to believe indeed, the rod effect is a camera bolstered anomaly.. this type of camera I don't know of any way to get a pre-exposure.. It does have a feature that it will auto-focus and track large object motion.

The 940 nanometer wavelength does not produce ANY visible glow to human eyes, so the illumination is typically "invisible".. are such things attracted to that wavelength?

[Intranuclear]

In the video it very much looks like an insect. I see them all the time when skywatching with my ir monoculars. That would explain the cat's interest in it also.

The "flight-path" can be explained by the sharpness filter as an artifact of math. Filters are basically mathematical operations, by taking a small rectangular sub-section at a time and "moving" or rather multiplying another matrix (a square array of numbers) and essentially sliding that across the whole picture. Filters ALWAYS create artifacts, some very pronounced other somewhat subtle. In fact, most camera hardware apply a variety of filters in real time also, so you really have to know your software, hardware and firmware.

The apparent seeing the destination in a linear extrapolation of the filter seems like either a coincidence or a construct of the mind, meaning the object gets smaller as it moves away from the camera so at some point the mind "thinks"/extrapolation at a likely destination. Not sure of course.

It would take a lot of experimentation to prove this of course, so not saying I am absolutely certain, but I see these kinds of things too much in my own experiments and don't always take the many hours needed to understand all the issues.
Not saying it is not a ghost or not an inter or extra dimensional thing, just that I am certain that discounting hardware and software issues does not lead to good science. Not taking the time to understand math and its power or weaknesses is absolutely hideous science and only leads to complete falsehood and delusion.

So keep on experimenting and comparing notes.

[DeDukshyn]

I thought we were all done with rods ... flying insects + camera physics(specific settings) + appropriate lighting = rods (in all the cases I have come across).

I've even made my own rods by filming flying insects and messing with the lighting and camera settings until I get them. Not sure if I still have the video ...

The one in this (OP) video also looks like a flying insect in its maneuvering ... lack of "wing motion" is just attributed to camera settings and wing speed, and what the ccd can capture in x amount of time.

I'm 99% confident the op video is just an insect of some sort - the cat also seemed slightly interested in it - as one might expect an insect to catch a cat's attention.

[Olaf]

Instead of using sharpening on the screen shot, one might try a HDR algorithm to increase local contrast.

[Bob]

That can be run I believe. With sharpening I wanted to see edges, which of course brought up the compression algorithm artifacts from the mp compression which originally stored the video in digital memory.. IR camera without digital would be useful, or IR image intensifier, maybe some sort of starlight scope.. But maybe the 940 nanometer Infra-Red illumination is needed as an attractant.. I just don't know - I do know with IR sensitivity with the smartphone and iPad in the Dulce' expedition, things that would not be seen became visible.. Without using video, but doing a series of still shots..

[Bob]

It would take a lot of experimentation to prove this of course, so not saying I am absolutely certain, but I see these kinds of things too much in my own experiments and don't always take the many hours needed to understand all the issues.
Not saying it is not a ghost or not an inter or extra dimensional thing, just that I am certain that discounting hardware and software issues does not lead to good science. Not taking the time to understand math and its power or weaknesses is absolutely hideous science and only leads to complete falsehood and delusion.

So keep on experimenting and comparing notes.

I'd like to see a series of still shots with a very high speed sensitive IR type of capture device my self. I don't know if one can "project" a flight path in-advance. That is what caught my attention. I didn't see any thing else do this sorta thing, and Duke, ya, rods aren't done with, when the oddities happen.. Insects are insects as are dust specs, or orbs, but pre-track of flight path.. that one has me scratching my beard.

The fellow that provided the video feed from his cloud link is a very avid photographer with some very very high resolution equipment and he mentioned that this sorta thing caught his attention. He does phenomenal work with portraits, outdoor scenes, and not so much video.

[Bob]

Interesting how the cat jumps down as the rod flies by. Our cat is always seemingly staring at something we can't see. She will get down low, her tail will fluff out, and she utters a low guttural sound. She tracks it with her eyes, the something we can't see. Very disconcerting at times.

Once she was tracking it, her tail flying back and forth, with her fur standing up and BINGO! She ran down the stairs crying out loud. The something scared the bejesus out of her. She may be seeing the orbs we capture on video as they zip around the room. The orbs are especially active when my daughter practices singing and playing guitar. Wonder if orbs and rods are cousins?

My friend mentioned the critter has often gone after something(s) in the house, often..

My cat will sometimes do the same, and I can't see anything here or hear anything that could be buzzing around.. Sometimes, something like a shadow seems to flit around now and then.

I could tell you about my gargoyle story which a something "appeared" which seemed like an interdimensional experience while I was doing TIG (high frequency arc welding at night in the back yard)...

A brief deviation from the thread, just a brief one for relevance - the "Shaver Mysteries" comes to mind, where interdimention critters can some-how break thru during certain conditions, certain stimulations - high frequency welding creates an IMMENSE broad spectrum radio frequency fields from low audio, and strong magnetics, up through infra-red and up to ultra-violet light.. It is broad band, and extremely strong and quite "chaotic".. Do such things attract other-worldly entities?

Tesla's mercury modulators (high frequency high current spark gap devices) would also generate similar wide-band electromagnetics all the way up through ultra-violet.

Here is the excerpt:


"Living Hell: The Demons Beneath Us The encounter with the apparitional woman in the night had catastrophic consequences.

It tipped off evil forces to Shaver, who was quickly seen as what might be called a security risk—in other words, as one with the potential to expose their secrets. In the weeks and months that followed, inside his brain he felt dim presences weighing, judging, probing, and talking about him. In time, specific presences, both benevolent and malign, came to the fore and grew ever more tangible.

While he was employed as a welder on the assembly line at a Highland Park, Michigan, auto plant, voices began sounding clearly and audibly inside his head.

It took him awhile to realize just what they were: the private, unspoken thoughts of his fellow workers.

As he would write, “The welding gun was, by some freak of its coils’ field attunements, not a radio, but a teleradio, a thought augmentor of some power.”

Before long, he was hearing other voices, frightening and unpleasant ones, coldly vicious and cruel.

There were screams, evidently of human beings, most of them women, undergoing The encounter with hideous torture. Less alarmingly, but no less mystifythe apparitional ingly, were references to spaceship flights—actual, not imaginary, ones. woman in the night Unnerved, Shaver quit his job, but the torment did not end. He allegedly hit the road, wandering and consequences. It taking jobs wherever he could find them, all the while undergoing persecution by underworlders, who he tipped off evil forces now believed had murdered his brother and were to Shaver.… determined to destroy him as well.

This period of his life was also subject to varying recollections, and Shaver historians and fans tend to the presumption that in reality he was institutionalized.

Shaver, however, had it that he was arrested and imprisoned for “many years”—a hard-to-credit chronological claim, as we shall see—for some shameful crime which the malevolent invisibles caused him to commit.

Catastrophic events:

In Shaver's correspondence with Ray Palmer, in the series of stories he would publish in Amazing, and in the anecdotes he would relate the rest of his life, a complex and not entirely coherent alternative reality unfolded. Few would believe that it literally existed, and even some of those few were inclined to the view that the Cavern World must represent an alternative, astral or visionary reality, though Shaver, firmly materialist and atheist in outlook, always insisted that the caves and their inhabitants were no less physical than the familiar world.

But one thing on which just about everybody, skeptic or believer, agrees: for all the contradictions in his testimony, for all the wildly implausible, frankly crazy tales he told, Shaver was basically, almost inexplicably, sincere. The bulk of the controversy about sincerity has focused less on Shaver than on Palmer, his—one might say—enabler. To understand Shaver’s story, one has first to appreciate his notion that “all matter—all things—are a mixture of energy, part of which is integral and part of which is disintegrant.”

Shaver chronicler Bruce Lanier Wright summarizes the concept:

It's a Living Hell: The Demons Beneath Us tells of energy, variously called "de, der, dis", or "d", represents entropy, evil, destruction;
Conversely, the integrative energy, called "te, ter, or t", is the life force, health, youth, vitality, sexual potency.

Shaver’s key discovery was that entropy is not a universal, unavoidable phenomenon.

It all winds down, it seems, only near a degenerate sun. Like ours.” But it was not originally degenerate.

In fact (or at least in Shaver’s imagination, leaving unaddressed the question of what its own sun was), it was once a planet whose atmosphere was dense with clouds. Finally, when a meteor struck, the effect was to ignite the world, turning it into an immense fireball—a sun, in other words. Out of this cosmic collision a solar system was formed. The resulting planets, including Earth, basked in its health-giving, warming ener- Memory of the Titan race was preserved in gies.

The earth caught the attention human mythology, including the story of the of the Atlans and the Titans, two Titan Enceladus, buried beneath Mount Etna for defying Zeus (Mary Evans Picture Library). Elder races passing through space, and tens of thousands of years ago they settled here.

The dis-free Atlans and Titans never stopped growing over the course of the years, decades, and centuries of their all-but-immortal lives, and many were gigantic in stature.

They possessed beam technologies with various functions: healing, creativity, sexual stimulation, remote viewing, telepathic communication, teleportation, and more.

In other words, they lived in something of a paradise. But as with all good things, this one was not to last. When the “carbon shell” protecting the sun collapsed 20,000 years ago, the sun began shooting out dis rays. As they washed over the earth, generating death and disease, the Elders were driven into a vast subterranean Cavern World—as Shaver had it, “tier on tier of cities, endlessly vast, the homes of giants … a maze, a catacomb, labyrinth”—which at its height housed 50,000,000,000 Atlans and Titans.

Even here the deadly energies penetrated, and as the centuries passed, life grew ever more intolerable.

Finally, 12,000 years ago as many Atlans and Titans as could boarded spaceships and departed from Lemuria to seek out younger stars or “dark worlds”—sunless planets artificially heated—where another cosmic race, the Nortans, dwelled. Those who remained on Earth suffered three fates. "

So is it an odd coincidence? My friend and I do have the ability to look deep into the earth to see the "caverns", caves, and potentially undergound facilities, who knows if abandoned, occupied or run by militaries.. Odd that "something" is flitting around in his home?

Shaver's opening up of "portals" with the high frequency welding apparatus most certainly can touch on stuff like the Philadelphia project, or the ramblings about "Montauk".. There is odd stuff which happens with very fast risetime wideband electro-magnetics.. very wide bandwidth might be a key in attracting 'things' that come to look. I just don't know. But there are some interesting coincidences happening..

[MorningFox]

The fact that more than one of you thought it was a cat and not a dog in the video certainly makes me question your video evaluating and deducing skills :bigsmile::p

[DeDukshyn]

The fact that more than one of you thought it was a cat and not a dog in the video certainly makes me question your video evaluating and deducing skills :bigsmile::p

Very funny ;) ... that might actually be a fair assessment had the animal been an actual part of the evaluation. What sort of 'dog' sits on the back of a couch anyway? lol.

[Orph]

The following are just my impressions of the video. I'm not claiming I'm right or wrong. It's just my 'perception' of what I see in that video.

I get the impression that there is a big mirror on the wall and the camera is facing the mirror and we are therefor seeing a reflection in the mirror, not the actual room itself. The little animal doesn't see the light object at all. It jumping off the couch is merely a coincidence. The object doesn't fly across the room in a front to back manner. It's a reflection on the mirror and merely moves across the screen in a left-to-right path. In other words, there is no "depth" to it's movements.

Look at the counter. It's "L" shaped. (An upside-down L if you will). The L points to a big cabinet against the wall, with glass doors, and stuff inside. Inside that cabinet you'll notice a small light come on just before the light-rod thingy appears. The light then changes and almost goes off as the light-rod goes away. Hmmmmmmm. ..............

I just don't see anything supernatural here. I realize that most of you will scoff at what I see, and that's okay. Like I mentioned at the beginning of my post, this is simply my 'perception' of what I see when I view the video. :yo:

[mojo]

I filmed a fast walker in Gen 3 night vision... its pretty decent......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Ojba2FEQE

[Matthew]

Not wanting to cause trouble: I'll give my 2 cents; with the greatest of respect I myself don't discount insects. Here is a link to a youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE3Jl8Kw6xA) that captures moths with both a 'typical' camera and also along side this, recording at the same time, a high speed camera, which is the sort of analysis that first caused me to doubt rods.
However, just my 2 cents, thank you.. :)

[Bob]

@Orph - great observations

I've been in that house and there is a mirror, but I know where the camera is sitting as I have seen it, and we are not looking at a reflection - it is a direct observation from the camera. The issue comes from the PRE-TRACK view on doing a high frequency emphasis. I most definitely have my own IR cameras inside and outside of my home and have seen insects and have frame rates of varying rates and have seen different geometries created by insects.

I've had some moths?? that look like fiairys appear on the camera, when they were NOT moving and sat still for a nice shot - a moth maybe or something else - hard to tell... never could find any existing species of moth or fly that matched the image by the way...

The critter I happen to know too, having met her a few times, and she is really into defending the property quite well. She does sit on the couch and she does track after anything that is out of the ordinary. My own cat does the same thing at my house, will be anywhere she can get a better view.

The light that appears is the garage door opening and closing, turning on a light that leaks through the door to the garage. All that is explained too. I've sat at the kitchen counter and there are no vents that can direct a particle upwards and then downwards in that area.

Its a pretty normal house, new, possibly on an indian graveyard :) (woooo....) or not..

[jimisroom]

Not wanting to cause trouble: I'll give my 2 cents; with the greatest of respect I myself don't discount insects. Here is a link to a youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE3Jl8Kw6xA) that captures moths with both a 'typical' camera and also along side this, recording at the same time, a high speed camera, which is the sort of analysis that first caused me to doubt rods.
However, just my 2 cents, thank you.. :)


Thanks for posting, but I feel this Monsterquest episode doesn’t really debunk anything like people assert it does. They make edits to give us the ‘illusion’ they are talking about rods, but in reality they are having an entirely different discussion.
A camera occasionally guesses wrong and creates things that are not there? No. The images that include rods are actual objects, that ARE there.

Only objects right in front of the camera would go fast enough to create motion blur? That’s all well and good, but what about actual ‘objects’ that are NOT motion blur captured several feet away? Anyone who has captured them has filmed actual objects, not motion blur.

Monsterquest plays wordgames where they redefine the subject by using buzzwords (we’ve all heard them: balloon, swamp gas, mass hallucinations, space debris, motion blur) to hypnotize us into believing the original subject never existed in the first place. We can’t let them play with our heads like this while we shouldo be lookinge at the data.

I’ve captured them by chance while filming orbs in the sky. Included below are examples of ‘rods’ filmed 15ft away, 80ft away, and most are in broad daylight, not the night setup of MQ., and generally 60fps. They are actual objects, and not motion blur.

I know this thread is ancient, so maybe Ill start a new one now that so many additional people are capturing these.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xW4419vyvE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEKGOyFh1I0

[Valknut3301]

I never really paid much attention to rods, then after they claimed to have debunked them as moths I lost all interest, so I wasn't going to comment on this thread. Then I found this video and it made me rethink my assumptions.

I watch Jenined UFO Research on Youtube, and he just posted these videos which were captured by Dr Courtney Brown using a Lumix GH6 camera shooting at 120 fps. Some of these videos are quite impressive, but the ones which caught my attention are at 3:10 and 9:20 respectively. They appear to show rods, or something very similar, moving at what Dr Brown claims is upwards of 20,000 miles per hour.

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I might start paying a little more attention to rods from now on.