Global Warming, Global Cooling or.. ??

[onawah]

Personal CO2 Lessons for Ocasio-Cortez
4/11/19
https://coldclimatechange.com/personal-co2-lessons-for-ocasio-cortez/?inf_contact_key=728a87521afa0f454efad39419fdd435

"One has to be a fool today to believe in the drivel the international press puts out about global warming and how the world will end in 12 years if we don’t do something really stupid about it, like geoengineering, or destroying modern economies to arrest carbon dioxide output, which Bill Gates is all for, now that he has everything.

It is true, we are in the middle of dramatic and violent climate change but it has nothing to do with CO2 and man-made global warming. However, we have bartenders, who know more than scientists, today telling the rest of us what to do about climate change. The Green New Deal, which was introduced last month by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) and Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., failed in the Senate after Republicans pushed the controversial bill for a vote. Not one senator voted in support. Ocasio-Cortez is getting a lot of airtime, the press just loves to have someone to rock the boat. Yes, America has never been more in need of change, and us baby boomers have really betrayed the following generations, but she would lead the country exactly in the wrong direction.

Before we get into the science of CO2, which Ocasio-Cortez thinks she knows all about, lets just for a moment look at the recent weather and the climate of the world from this past winter. We are well into spring, but winter is still very much with us. Even if present patterns continue, and it snows into summer, there is a large group of people, including Ocasio-Cortez, who will never give up their assumptions about climate change. They would rather die than admit they are wrong meaning there is no limit to their arrogance.

Most of us know by now that climate is one thing and weather another. At least that is what the press has tried to teach the president but when we still have blizzards in April one has to scratch one’s head and wonder. With the biggest glacier in the northern hemisphere thickening by 150 feet a year over the last two years we have to wonder. With the north pole is full of ice late into spring, just slightly below the 40 year average, we have to wonder.

Greenland’s biggest glacier, the Jakobshavn glacier, began advancing rapidly (almost 26 feet per day!) in 2016. Airborne altimetry and satellite imagery show that the glacier is advancing about 1.8 miles and ice thickening nearly 130 feet annually, according to NASA. This was published in Nature Geoscience. Yet The Guardian and other publications still reports on vanishing glaciers.

Another clear demonstration of the increasing cold of the last two years comes from The Detroit Free Press which reported Lake Superior was 94 percent ice covered as of April 5th. At this time last year, Superior was about half covered, and only 7 percent of the lake was covered at this time in 2017. Sure looks like a warming trend!

Personal CO2 Lessons for Ocasio-Cortez

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Does Ocasio-Cortez know more about CO2 than the following scientists?

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Prof. Don J. Easterbrook said, “Global warming (i.e, the warming since 1977) is over. The minute increase of anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere (0.008%) was not the cause of the warming—it was a continuation of natural cycles that occurred over the past 500 years. The PDO cool mode has replaced the warm mode in the Pacific Ocean, virtually assuring us of about 30 years of global cooling, perhaps much deeper than the global cooling from about 1945 to 1977. Just how much cooler the global climate will be during this cool cycle is uncertain. Recent solar changes suggest that it could be fairly severe, perhaps more like the 1880 to 1915 cool cycle than the more moderate 1945-1977 cool cycles. A more drastic cooling, similar to that during the Dalton and Maunder minimums, could plunge the Earth into another Little Ice Age, but only time will tell if that is likely.”

Dr. Willie Soon, astrophysicist and Geo-scientist at the Solar and Stellar Physics Division of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics said, “Saying the climate system is completely dominated by how much carbon dioxide we have in the system is crazy – completely wrong. Carbon dioxide is not the major driver for the earth/climate system. Temperatures are going down, but CO2 levels are still going up. It’s close to being insane to try to keep insisting these changes in carbon dioxide are going to create all of the disasters that politicians and doomsayers are trying to tell us. Climate is totally, completely dependent on what the sun is doing to the system. The sun is the major driver of the earth climate system.”


“Saying the climate system is completely dominated by how much carbon dioxide we have in the system is crazy – completely wrong,” says Dr. Soon. “Carbon dioxide is not the major driver for the earth/climate system. Now temperatures are going down, but CO2 levels are still going up. It’s close to being insane to try to keep insisting these changes in carbon dioxide are going to create all of the disasters. They say, “no matter what the sun does, it is not important.”

Conclusion
We do have a lot of insane/arrogant people who think they know more than leading scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. The elite owned press have done a wonderful job of teaching the masses how not to think, how not to be reasonable, and how to believe everything they are told. Most conservatives I know fortunately seem to be immune from this.

The main issue with CO2 is not global warming its health and life itself. Carbon dioxide like air, water and oxygen is essential for life and health in general and specifically it holds the key to resolving asthma, cancer and many other chronic diseases. Carbon dioxide is an essential constituent of tissue fluids and as such should be maintained at an optimum level in the blood. The gas therefore is needed to supplement various anaesthetic and oxygenation mixtures for use under special conditions such as cardio-pulmonary by-pass surgery and the management of renal dialysis.

Carbon dioxide is a nutrient as well as a product of respiration and energy production in the cells and its lack or deficiency is of itself a starting point for different disturbances in the body.

[DeDukshyn]

... . Carbon dioxide like air, water and oxygen is essential for life and health in general and specifically it holds the key to resolving asthma, cancer and many other chronic diseases. Carbon dioxide is an essential constituent of tissue fluids and as such should be maintained at an optimum level in the blood. The gas therefore is needed to supplement various anaesthetic and oxygenation mixtures for use under special conditions such as cardio-pulmonary by-pass surgery and the management of renal dialysis.

Carbon dioxide is a nutrient as well as a product of respiration and energy production in the cells and its lack or deficiency is of itself a starting point for different disturbances in the body.

I wonder why the author felt this statement was necessary ... water is crucially essential to life as well, it doesn't mean that a global deluge wouldn't potentially spell the end of humanity. I think the statement above does nothing to support the claim, against a backdrop of some reasonable points.


I also don't like the " ... this glacier up here in the north has been growing x feet per day ..." argument - that isn't intelligent or thought out; that's because in the north, the difference between summer weather and winter weather is extreme - in northern Canada summer temps can reach 25-30C (80f+) and in the winter lows reach -50C (-60f). That's a swing of 140f. Is it unreasonable to think that measuring the growth or recession of a glacier has to happen over many years or decades to be measured with any validity or confidence? There is really a lot of unintelligence in some of these claims on both sides of the issue.

[onawah]

Dr. Sircus is a medical doctor, so weather isn't his area of expertise, but there ARE reputable scientists who do not support the global warming theory such as:

Dr. Willie Soon, astrophysicist and Geo-scientist at the Solar and Stellar Physics Division of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics said, “Saying the climate system is completely dominated by how much carbon dioxide we have in the system is crazy – completely wrong. Carbon dioxide is not the major driver for the earth/climate system. Temperatures are going down, but CO2 levels are still going up. It’s close to being insane to try to keep insisting these changes in carbon dioxide are going to create all of the disasters that politicians and doomsayers are trying to tell us. Climate is totally, completely dependent on what the sun is doing to the system. The sun is the major driver of the earth climate system.”
There is not much agreement from either side, and the fact that it has become a political issue obfuscates the subject even further.
But I think it's safe to say there seems to be something very fishy going on, with this, as with so much else of crucial importance currently.



I wonder why the author felt this statement was necessary ... water is crucially essential to life as well, it doesn't mean that a global deluge wouldn't potentially spell the end of humanity. I think the statement above does nothing to support the claim, against a backdrop of some reasonable points.


I also don't like the " ... this glacier up here in the north has been growing x feet per day ..." argument - that isn't intelligent or thought out; that's because in the north, the difference between summer weather and winter weather is extreme - in northern Canada summer temps can reach 25-30C (80f+) and in the winter lows reach -50C (-60f). That's a swing of 140f. Is it unreasonable to think that measuring the growth or recession of a glacier has to happen over many years or decades to be measured? There is really a lot of unintelligence in some of these claims on both sides of the issue.

[DeDukshyn]

Dr. Sircus is a medical doctor, so weather isn't his area of expertise, but there ARE reputable scientists who do not support the global warming theory.
There is not much agreement from either side, and the fact that it has become a political issue obfuscates the subject even further.
I would just say there seems to be something very fishy going on, with this as with so much else of crucial importance currently.



I wonder why the author felt this statement was necessary ... water is crucially essential to life as well, it doesn't mean that a global deluge wouldn't potentially spell the end of humanity. I think the statement above does nothing to support the claim, against a backdrop of some reasonable points.


I also don't like the " ... this glacier up here in the north has been growing x feet per day ..." argument - that isn't intelligent or thought out; that's because in the north, the difference between summer weather and winter weather is extreme - in northern Canada summer temps can reach 25-30C (80f+) and in the winter lows reach -50C (-60f). That's a swing of 140f. Is it unreasonable to think that measuring the growth or recession of a glacier has to happen over many years or decades to be measured? There is really a lot of unintelligence in some of these claims on both sides of the issue.

I totally agree - its a never ending debate and there's a few great and sound reasonable points on either end.

Its just that it gets harder to discuss when people start laying out trivial or not well thought out arguments, conflation, or plain misinfo / misdirection. It just weighs down the important points that then end up getting buried beneath the trivial items that better align with people's emotional reactions.


Again, I really have to say I take large issue with using such defence points as "glacier X grew x feet in x days therefore the earth is cooling, not warming".
In 1992 I did a light climb up Mt Robson in Robson National park in the BC rockies. It was a two day trek up, we camped at Berg lake for day, then made it back down in a single day. There wasn't much "climbing" as there's pretty decent trails all the way up to Berg lake.

It is definitely one of my favourite memories, I was 18 at the time, and I was just awestruck at the scenary, the waterfalls, all the beauty - even this weird section where you have to climb through a field of massive red boulders - it looked like something from another planet. Berg lake had two glaciers that fed directly into it - Robson glacier, and I think the other one was called Berg glacier. At the campsite, at night you could hear large chunks of Berg glacier breaking off and falling into the lake, then a few minutes later you here the waves from the impact lapping at the the shore.

Robson glacier fed into Berg lake at a much gentler angle so there was no breakoffs coming from that glacier, but it also ran directly into the lake.

Such wonderful memories and imagery were imprinted into my mind. A couple years ago, I was feeling nostalgic and went search for photos of the area - what I found, I barely recognized at all. The area was completely different looking. Robson glacier was almost no where to even be found.

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If you look in this recent image waaay off to the left you can see the tip of Robson glacier up behind the bend. When I was there, as I mentioned, Robson glacier fed directly into the lake - look how much it has receded. In fact there was a plaque posted on the trail that showed an old photo from mid 1900s as to where Robson glacier was then ... the photo showed Berg lake didn't exist and Robson glacier end well past where the lake is today - in the photo above you can see clearly where it had been way off to the right.

Because Canadian winters are harsh, and summers are temperate, all the glaciers grow every single winter and retreat every single summer. That's the way glaciers work - its only when you measure the recession (or growth) over many many years does any indication of what is happening actually occur.

What I noticed isn't unique to the region either: https://www.sciencealert.com/climate-scientists-release-unretouched-photos-of-glaciers-100-years-ago-vs-today


So my main point is that glaciers are not growing overall. They grow in the winter and shrinking in the summer. The topic only gets more frustrating to deal with when you have people using really short sighted arguments as "evidence" for what they want to align with. It's like they have emotionally aligned already, then any silly old thing that supports that alignment suddenly becomes their "evidence" that they argue, but really their "evidence" is only there to justify their emotional alignment. They way it should work is to objectively lay out all the "evidence" from both sides onto the tables, start eliminating the BS, start determining the reasoning why the evidence looks the way it does, then you can begin to draw a conclusion. From that objective conclusion of research and fact finding, then one can find it perhaps appropriate to align their emotions with that conclusion. Unfortunately this level of reasoning and critical thinking is no longer possible amongst the phone zombies; people are relegated to flinging poo that aligns to their emotions. And thus is the sad state of humanity.

Sorry, I've just lost all hope for humanity recently - all I see these days are a bunch of programmed robots running around parroting some BS they heard on the internet and calling it "facts". I know this too shall pass, as usually I am on optimist - but this month, I can't get past what I am seeing. So I'm pessimistic and angry these last few weeks. Bear with me, its what I need to get motivated sometimes. :)

[frankstien]

Cue to 26 mins. If you want to cut to the chase.

BBC Documentary; The Great Global Warming Swindle

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(it's the sun, folks)

[frankstien]

There can only be global cooling, because all libtards say there's global warming.
That's my logic and I'm sticking to it.

Animals are dying because of the heavy chemtrails and resultant chemicals, even over Russia (including vast no man's land of Siberia)

Warmer temperature is conducive to life, on the land and in the sea. Remember the Jurassic?
CO2 is life-giving, according to late Professor Robert Carter. He must be right, because wikipedia calls him a denier.

We have been getting consecutively colder winters in my part of the world for 3 years now. There are still warm spells in the summer, but these winters are becoming quite a trial. The coldest temperature I have experienced on the coast at this latitude was this last winter in February. 12 degrees F. The coldest I have ever felt before in this part of Canada was 15 degrees F. I know that is nothing compared to what they get back east and up north, but this is by the Pacific Ocean--it's getting colder not warmer.

Climate change is about charging more taxes for a fictional situation they have created in the media. If they tell you it's true on TV most people believe it. There's also the peer pressure syndrome, yes Libs are big into it and don't want to hear anything else. I tried to tell a good friend of mine about this and she's really intelligent, but won't even listen to an alternate view on the climate change debate.

See my post above and follow the cue directions--it's all about the solar cycles of the sun that control our Earth's temp. It was much warmer back in the medieval warm period (1000-1300 AD), so warm in fact they were growing grapes and making wine in England.

[Bob]

I am seeing weather cycles from the late 1980's hitting in Colorado and across the midwest - to me it looks like a long term cycle that seems quite natural, and tracking with solar sunspot cycles, either directly or part of some sub-harmonic, pattern.

There was a large geomagnetic storm in 1989, and possibly one can take a look at the geomagnetic storms to track weather cycles too. I recall looking at the satellite visible of the cloud pattern at that time and noted a particular geometry and extent of spread. Saw that again recently. The difference is in the lack of geomagnetic storms due to no massive CME's. A cooling sun though could reduce the 2degree worry we keep hearing about.

"everyone talks about the weather but cannot do anything about it.." if we stopped all hydrocarbon fuel burning there would still be volcanic output, and evaporation from the oceans still contributing to water vapor which is really a strong green house gas.

water vapor ref: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/greenhouse-gases.php?section=watervapor
global cooling potential with solar output reduction: https://www.livescience.com/61716-sun-cooling-global-warming.html

[DeDukshyn]

There can only be global cooling, because all libtards say there's global warming.
That's my logic and I'm sticking to it.

Animals are dying because of the heavy chemtrails and resultant chemicals, even over Russia (including vast no man's land of Siberia)

Warmer temperature is conducive to life, on the land and in the sea. Remember the Jurassic?
CO2 is life-giving, according to late Professor Robert Carter. He must be right, because wikipedia calls him a denier.

We have been getting consecutively colder winters in my part of the world for 3 years now. There are still warm spells in the summer, but these winters are becoming quite a trial. The coldest temperature I have experienced on the coast at this latitude was this last winter in February. 12 degrees F. The coldest I have ever felt before in this part of Canada was 15 degrees F. I know that is nothing compared to what they get back east and up north, but this is by the Pacific Ocean--it's getting colder not warmer.

Climate change is about charging more taxes for a fictional situation they have created in the media. If they tell you it's true on TV most people believe it. There's also the peer pressure syndrome, yes Libs are big into it and don't want to hear anything else. I tried to tell a good friend of mine about this and she's really intelligent, but won't even listen to an alternate view on the climate change debate.

See my post above and follow the cue directions--it's all about the solar cycles of the sun that control our Earth's temp. It was much warmer back in the medieval warm period (1000-1300 AD), so warm in fact they were growing grapes and making wine in England.

The earth could be cooling instead of heating, let's explore that (although anecdotal evidence of three winters in one location isn't any type of indicator, but thanks for sharing that :)).

The glaciers in the mountains of the world are receding, this is known and provable, and as mentioned above something I have personally experienced. Let's not debate that. So what could cause glaciers to be receding in a "cooling" period?

Dry air perhaps? (I've tossed this out on a previous thread a while back but I am sure everyone just thought I was being a sarcastic ass) Since glaciers are fed by mountain snow pack, snow must fall to keep glaciers fed. No snow, and glaciers will not be able to get as large, causing them to recede more than normal in the summer months, causing overall recession.

Let's assume the air is getting more dry ... why is it getting more dry? Well the only major way that can happen is if the rate of evaporation of the oceans and lakes has decreased for some reason ... what could that reason be? Less direct energy from the sun hitting the oceans perhaps?

Let's assume so ... why is there less direct sun hitting the oceans? More cloud cover perhaps? What could cause that? Maybe an increase in cloud development from contrails / spraying from airplanes? (side note: some records indicate that the global temp of the earth increased a few degrees while all the planes in the world were grounded after 9/11 - this lend plausibility that this increased cloud cover created from contrails / spraying may have a very significant impact)

This could possibly explain why glaciers are receding regardless of what the global temps are doing ...

Plausible theory? Or just another **** theory in a sea full already full of **** theories?

[Didgevillage]

There are three symptoms of Ice Age glacial I read decades ago in a geology book in Japan.

Strong, prevailing, westerly wind
Drying up in the inner parts of major continents and
Pronounced volcanic (and earthquake) activities throughout the world.

All these three are happening in recent record.

The book also noted that the temperature of the deep-level Atlantic Ocean is constantly dropping, no matter what the surface temperature in the Pacific may be.

Remember videos of huge chunks of ice falling off the coast of Greenland (as as a propaganda for "global warming")?
These chunks of ice were being pushed off glaciers there because these glaciers are growing in higher elevations in Greenland.

[onawah]

SOME glaciers are receding, some are growing.
Temperatures are rising in some areas, dropping in others.
Though the prevailing theories are pro-global warming, there are still reports breaking through from credible sources which present a different picture. Such as:
https://principia-scientific.org/climate-shock-90-percent-worlds-glaciers-growing/
"Climate Shock: 90 Percent Of The World’s Glaciers Are GROWING
Published on November 26, 2016
Written by iceagenow.info

"A new NASA study, released on Friday, admits that ice is accumulating in Antarctica. Satellite measurements show an 82-112 gigaton-a-year net ice gain. That’s 82-112 billion tons per year! Nine zeroes!

in other words that is 112,000,000,000 tons. Per year.

It’s hard to comprehend how much ice that really is, so let’s put it in perspective. Let’s assume that they’re talking short tons (2,000 lbs). That’s about the weight of an old VW Beetle.

Those old Beetles measured 14 feet long. Multiply 112 billion by 14 feet and you get 1,560 billion feet. Divide that by the distance from the earth to the moon (239,000 miles), and you’d have a string of VW Beetles stretching all the way to the moon.

Not once, not twice, but 45 times. All the way to the moon. That’s a helluva lot of new ice. Every single year. And we’re worried about global warming?

Not only is the Antarctic Ice Sheet growing, NASA admits that the growth is actually reducing sea-level rise. This also confirms what I’ve been saying all along. Antarctica contains 90 percent of the earth’s ice. If the Antarctic Ice Sheet is growing, wouldn’t that mean that more than 90 percent of the world’s glaciers are growing?

Here are excerpts, taken from NASA’s own website:

“NASA – Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Growing”
A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

“We’re essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the Antarctic Peninsula and the Thwaites and Pine Island region of West Antarctica,” said Jay Zwally, a glaciologist with NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on Oct. 30 in the Journal of Glaciology. “Our main disagreement is for East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.” Zwally added that his team “measured small height changes over large areas, as well as the large changes observed over smaller areas.”

Scientists calculate how much the ice sheet is growing or shrinking from the changes in surface height that are measured by the satellite altimeters. In locations where the amount of new snowfall accumulating on an ice sheet is not equal to the ice flow downward and outward to the ocean, the surface height changes and the ice-sheet mass grows or shrinks.

The study analyzed changes in the surface height of the Antarctic ice sheet measured by radar altimeters on two European Space Agency European Remote Sensing (ERS) satellites, spanning from 1992 to 2001, and by the laser altimeter on NASA’s Ice, Cloud, and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) from 2003 to 2008.

They also used information on snow accumulation for tens of thousands of years, derived by other scientists from ice cores, to conclude that East Antarctica has been thickening for a very long time.

The extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia, thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year.

“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said.

See entire NASA article:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Abstract of the paper from the Journal of Glaciology:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/igsoc/jog/pre-prints/content-ings_jog_15j071;jsessionid=pi1c23u2cqo4.alexandra "

[DeDukshyn]

"A new NASA study, released on Friday, admits that ice is accumulating in Antarctica. Satellite measurements show an 82-112 gigaton-a-year net ice gain. That’s 82-112 billion tons per year! Nine zeroes!

in other words that is 112,000,000,000 tons. Per year.

It’s hard to comprehend how much ice that really is, so let’s put it in perspective. Let’s assume that they’re talking short tons (2,000 lbs). That’s about the weight of an old VW Beetle.

Those old Beetles measured 14 feet long. Multiply 112 billion by 14 feet and you get 1,560 billion feet. Divide that by the distance from the earth to the moon (239,000 miles), and you’d have a string of VW Beetles stretching all the way to the moon.



Is this meant to be serious?

A chunk of ice that is 14 ft by 6 ft 6 ft (vw beetle sized) weighs over 13 tonnes or just shy of 30,000 lbs ... not 2000lbs ... but hey, the author is only off by 28,000 pounds (or by factor of 93).

Close enough for a global warming study right? This is obviously one topic where people believe no one will do a little verification on the claims. I mean, its so far off of reality I have to question the entire article and claim (which I shouldn't do, I know but seriously folks ... I can't take seriously whoever put these numbers together ... what a horrific conflation of mind bending bull****).

2000lbs of ice fits into a block less than 3 feet by three feet by three feet - not hard to determine, and not a chunk of ice the size of a VW beetle ( ... what?!?)

But yeah, the arctic makes enough EXTRA ice to make a land bridge to the moon and back 45 times every year? that sounds plausible ... who writes this stuff???!!

Seriously I can't take any of this BS seriously ... its all BS ... complete and utter bull****).

I'm not just talking about the one side -- its the same from both sides of the argument ... 99% of the people writing this stuff don't even seem to have a grade 12 level of education ...

If my math seems too advance for anyone to know whether I am telling the truth, and they want to verify my claims here, please do, you can use this to help: https://www.aqua-calc.com/calculate/weight-to-volume

Man this is frustrating ...

One thing I have learned in my life though is that the Truth needs no BS to try to back it up.


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Let me lighten up my "too serious" post here a bit ....

How much does the average python weigh? Well it weighs the same as two African bull elephants. Allow me to explain, as I am the expert on snake weight. You see the average python length is about 18 feet long - the same length as a giraffe is tall.

Now if you took a giraffe and laid down on the ground, it would take two African bull elephants standing in a line, to reach from one end of the laying giraffe, to the other end. So you can obviously see that the average 18 ft python weighs the same as two African bull elephants. Trust me, I'm an expert.

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[onawah]

I couldn't say, DeDukshyn (math is hardly my strong suit). Perhaps they misquoted?
But here is the NASA article:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses
" A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

“We’re essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the Antarctic Peninsula and the Thwaites and Pine Island region of West Antarctica,” said Jay Zwally, a glaciologist with NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on Oct. 30 in the Journal of Glaciology. “Our main disagreement is for East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.” Zwally added that his team “measured small height changes over large areas, as well as the large changes observed over smaller areas.”

Scientists calculate how much the ice sheet is growing or shrinking from the changes in surface height that are measured by the satellite altimeters. In locations where the amount of new snowfall accumulating on an ice sheet is not equal to the ice flow downward and outward to the ocean, the surface height changes and the ice-sheet mass grows or shrinks.

But it might only take a few decades for Antarctica’s growth to reverse, according to Zwally. “If the losses of the Antarctic Peninsula and parts of West Antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in East Antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- I don’t think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.”

The study analyzed changes in the surface height of the Antarctic ice sheet measured by radar altimeters on two European Space Agency European Remote Sensing (ERS) satellites, spanning from 1992 to 2001, and by the laser altimeter on NASA’s Ice, Cloud, and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) from 2003 to 2008.

Zwally said that while other scientists have assumed that the gains in elevation seen in East Antarctica are due to recent increases in snow accumulation, his team used meteorological data beginning in 1979 to show that the snowfall in East Antarctica actually decreased by 11 billion tons per year during both the ERS and ICESat periods. They also used information on snow accumulation for tens of thousands of years, derived by other scientists from ice cores, to conclude that East Antarctica has been thickening for a very long time.

“At the end of the last Ice Age, the air became warmer and carried more moisture across the continent, doubling the amount of snow dropped on the ice sheet,” Zwally said.

The extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia, thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.

Zwally’s team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of East Antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of West Antarctica and the Antarctic Peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.

“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”

“The new study highlights the difficulties of measuring the small changes in ice height happening in East Antarctica,” said Ben Smith, a glaciologist with the University of Washington in Seattle who was not involved in Zwally’s study.

"Doing altimetry accurately for very large areas is extraordinarily difficult, and there are measurements of snow accumulation that need to be done independently to understand what’s happening in these places,” Smith said.

To help accurately measure changes in Antarctica, NASA is developing the successor to the ICESat mission, ICESat-2, which is scheduled to launch in 2018. “ICESat-2 will measure changes in the ice sheet within the thickness of a No. 2 pencil,” said Tom Neumann, a glaciologist at Goddard and deputy project scientist for ICESat-2. “It will contribute to solving the problem of Antarctica’s mass balance by providing a long-term record of elevation changes.”

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[DeDukshyn]

Well I'm far more expecting an author making extremely bold claims to actually know a little or do at least SOME verification before publishing those bold claims ... from a website called "principia-scientific" no less ... I'm not really expecting you to do the math, but maybe if for someone who is writing or publishing "science" articles on a "science" website ... too much to ask?? ;)

Its conflation. 2000lbs of ice is a small block, not "the size of a VW bug" ... the author obviously doesn't understand that density might have something to do with weight and size, or, it was written that way purposely.

As I said, I know dismissing the entire claim based on that isn't what I should be doing, but its really hard when its obvious some people are taking some stats and twisting them to try to sell a point.


BTW I fixed up my previous post ... its a little lighter now. :) I'm still angry. :)

[frankstien]

There can only be global cooling, because all libtards say there's global warming.
That's my logic and I'm sticking to it.

Animals are dying because of the heavy chemtrails and resultant chemicals, even over Russia (including vast no man's land of Siberia)

Warmer temperature is conducive to life, on the land and in the sea. Remember the Jurassic?
CO2 is life-giving, according to late Professor Robert Carter. He must be right, because wikipedia calls him a denier.

We have been getting consecutively colder winters in my part of the world for 3 years now. There are still warm spells in the summer, but these winters are becoming quite a trial. The coldest temperature I have experienced on the coast at this latitude was this last winter in February. 12 degrees F. The coldest I have ever felt before in this part of Canada was 15 degrees F. I know that is nothing compared to what they get back east and up north, but this is by the Pacific Ocean--it's getting colder not warmer.

Climate change is about charging more taxes for a fictional situation they have created in the media. If they tell you it's true on TV most people believe it. There's also the peer pressure syndrome, yes Libs are big into it and don't want to hear anything else. I tried to tell a good friend of mine about this and she's really intelligent, but won't even listen to an alternate view on the climate change debate.

See my post above and follow the cue directions--it's all about the solar cycles of the sun that control our Earth's temp. It was much warmer back in the medieval warm period (1000-1300 AD), so warm in fact they were growing grapes and making wine in England.

The earth could be cooling instead of heating, let's explore that (although anecdotal evidence of three winters in one location isn't any type of indicator, but thanks for sharing that :)).

The glaciers in the mountains of the world are receding, this is known and provable, and as mentioned above something I have personally experienced. Let's not debate that. So what could cause glaciers to be receding in a "cooling" period?

Dry air perhaps? (I've tossed this out on a previous thread a while back but I am sure everyone just thought I was being a sarcastic ass) Since glaciers are fed by mountain snow pack, snow must fall to keep glaciers fed. No snow, and glaciers will not be able to get as large, causing them to recede more than normal in the summer months, causing overall recession.

Let's assume the air is getting more dry ... why is it getting more dry? Well the only major way that can happen is if the rate of evaporation of the oceans and lakes has decreased for some reason ... what could that reason be? Less direct energy from the sun hitting the oceans perhaps?

Let's assume so ... why is there less direct sun hitting the oceans? More cloud cover perhaps? What could cause that? Maybe an increase in cloud development from contrails / spraying from airplanes? (side note: some records indicate that the global temp of the earth increased a few degrees while all the planes in the world were grounded after 9/11 - this lend plausibility that this increased cloud cover created from contrails / spraying may have a very significant impact)

This could possibly explain why glaciers are receding regardless of what the global temps are doing ...

Plausible theory? Or just another **** theory in a sea full already full of **** theories?
You're welcome. :)
CO2 is a by-product of warming and follows warming by hundreds of years before it increases. It is the Sun that controls our temperatures. If the Sun is very active: solar flares, increased solar wind, then fewer gamma rays get through our atmosphere. These gamma rays interact with the ocean's moisture and form clouds. Clouds cause cooling on the Earth. High activity on the Sun, less gamma rays get through, less clouds created--warmer temps. Less activity on the sun, more gamma rays get through, more clouds created, leading to cooler temperatures. Just watch the video I posted above, the climate scientists walk the viewer through it.

P.S. related--Global Dimming
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-11-28-global-dimming-scheme-chemtrail-atmosphere-smog-saving-planet.html

P.P.S. Of course with the weather war on--HAARP, Chemtrail heating and cooling, violent weather reactions to the mad scientists playing with Mother Nature--all bets are off on natural weather--so your theories may find some validity there.
;)

[Didgevillage]

It is possible with HAARP to heat up certain locations on earth, let's say certain spots on Greenland to melt specific glaciers. That's exactly why there are conflicting reports about Greenland ice sheets thinning/thickening.

But there is no doubt, overall, that ice sheets and glaciers on Greenland are growing, meaning that "global warming" is false.
https://nypost.com/2019/03/25/melting-greenland-glacier-appears-to-be-growing-again/

[GrayWolfBG]

It's funny how some folk can make themselves look a bit dim by not thinking through ( or researching a bit?) their argument before committing it to the page?

"Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"......

For every degree we raise our planets temp by we increase its ability to hold water vapour by an average of 7%

Of course that is a global 'average' and we know swathes of the planet have very low relative humidity meaning other areas benefit from their 'increase water vapour'

When you look at our global flooding record the past 5 years you can see the results!

Why 5 years? Well the Dimming the dirty,sulphur rich coal that hastened China into the world of industrialisation has had to be tamed by the Chinese as their urban populations suffered under their pall of pollution.

The technologies to 'scrub' their emissions were developed in the west when it placed 'clean air' regulations in its stat books

That this 'clean up' of the pollution directly downwind of China meant far more solar reaching the surface of the Pacific there.

At the same time the 15 to 30 year cycle called the 'Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation' flipped into its positive, AGW augmenting phase.

Since 2014 we have seen top 5 global temps posted each year and this year will be no exception

We have just seen the Southern Hemisphere have a record warm summer so what do you think the Northern hemisphere will see this time?

Already Arctic Sea Ice is at record low extent for the time of year and looks likely to see out April as lowest. 'Perfect melt storm' type losses yet no 'perfect melt storm synoptics'?

in 2016 over 7,000 'hillocks' grew across Yamal ( Russia's Natural Gas producing region?) and the lead scientist on the erupted craters ( back in 2015?) in Yamal gives them a 3 year lifespan from growth to eruption.

What will we see across Yamal this summer? Do the reserves erupting these masses link into the the CH4 capped below?

We are told not to expect a 'methane Burp' from the Arctic......but that was before reindeer herders were seeing fiery explosions in their landscape and hewn out craters pocking their land!

We face another 25 years of accelerating warming across the planet ( on top of our AGW forcings) and so those catching the polar plunges would be better served figuring why their tiny patch is now copping the Arctic cold as warm air pushes it out of the basin to see if the pattern will last?. The rest of us are doing fine with the UK hitting 70f at the end of Feb!!!

[onawah]

I took the time to watch the whole documentary, and this is far the most convincing and thorough explanation of what is really going on, and why, that I've seen thus far, Thanks for posting!


Cue to 26 mins. If you want to cut to the chase.

BBC Documentary; The Great Global Warming Swindle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.nohatespeechmovement.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F12%2FThe-Sun.jpg&f=1

[frankstien]

I took the time to watch the whole documentary, and this is far the most convincing and thorough explanation of what is really going on, and why, that I've seen thus far, Thanks for posting!


Cue to 26 mins. If you want to cut to the chase.

BBC Documentary; The Great Global Warming Swindle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.nohatespeechmovement.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F12%2FThe-Sun.jpg&f=1

My pleasure. It is amazing YouTube is still allowing it to be shown--hopefully more will follow your lead.
;)

[onawah]

I will recommend it be included in the Avalon library, if it's not already.


I took the time to watch the whole documentary, and this is far the most convincing and thorough explanation of what is really going on, and why, that I've seen thus far, Thanks for posting!


Cue to 26 mins. If you want to cut to the chase.

BBC Documentary; The Great Global Warming Swindle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.nohatespeechmovement.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F12%2FThe-Sun.jpg&f=1

My pleasure. It is amazing YouTube is still allowing it to be shown--hopefully more will follow your lead.
;)

[Didgevillage]

It's funny how some folk can make themselves look a bit dim by not thinking through ( or researching a bit?) their argument before committing it to the page?

I wonder about that too.


When you look at our global flooding record the past 5 years you can see the results!

That will be cool. The Aral see will regain the original water level and droughts in Africa and Australia will come to an end.


Well the Dimming the dirty,sulphur rich coal that hastened China into the world of industrialisation has had to be tamed by the Chinese as their urban populations suffered under their pall of pollution.

The technologies to 'scrub' their emissions were developed in the west when it placed 'clean air' regulations in its stat books

Fukushima and other nuke plants are said to curb "carbon emissions." Right. We have radioactive pollution instead. Which one would you prefer?


We have just seen the Southern Hemisphere have a record warm summer so what do you think the Northern hemisphere will see this time?

I bet you didn't see the photos of kangaroos in the snow, new winter scenery of Australia.


Already Arctic Sea Ice is at record low extent for the time of year and looks likely to see out April as lowest.

Arctic Sea Ice changes constantly. Hardly a trend setter for "global warming."


We face another 25 years of accelerating warming across the planet

We heard that before, like 25 years ago. Didn't happen.

[Bill Ryan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQI will recommend it be included in the Avalon library, if it's not already.


Yes, many thanks: in the Library now. :thumbsup:


http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle_Channel_4_March_8 _2007.mp4

[Didgevillage]

Now that we know "global warming" is a swindle, we have to ask ourselves what its motives are. And cui bono?

This is my take. Ice Age glacial is fast approaching and will be here sometime this century. The elite and controllers of the world know it but want avoid a mass panic, because Ice Age glacial will do catastrophic damages, while a temperature rise of a few degrees and abundance of CO2 promote life on earth.
Their lie is typical "black is white," "ugly is beautiful" and "bad is good" inversion.

At the same time, they want to keep the financial fraud (the Babylonian debt-based, interest-bearing fractional reserve banking system) going without us peasants becoming aware of it.

Thus they created sports as an entertainment, while psy-op religions such as flat earth and veganism as well as "global warming" scam will keep awake people divided and divert their attention from the real issues, the Federal Reserve

[Philippe]

To the shock of many climate change alarmists, even NASA scientists confirmed that carbon dioxide is “greening” the planet. NASA telling truth this time :bigsmile:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-04-26-nasa-declares-carbon-dioxide-is-greening-the-earth.html

[Clear Light]

CO2 is a by-product of warming and follows warming by hundreds of years before it increases. It is the Sun that controls our temperatures. If the Sun is very active: solar flares, increased solar wind, then fewer gamma rays get through our atmosphere. These gamma rays interact with the ocean's moisture and form clouds. Clouds cause cooling on the Earth. High activity on the Sun, less gamma rays get through, less clouds created--warmer temps. Less activity on the sun [1], more gamma rays get through, more clouds created, leading to cooler temperatures [2]. Just watch the video I posted above, the climate scientists walk the viewer through it.

Ah, yes I agree with what you've stated above as a description for their explanation for the changes in our global climate ... but, and perhaps I am missing something here, isn't the Sun just about hitting "Solar Minimum" [1] (or soon will be) ? And if so, by their logic, Arctic temperatures should be falling [2] but doesn't the evidence indicate the temperatures are in fact Rising ?

Here's a screenshot from the (year 2007) video at the 33:23 minute mark which apparently shows the correlation between Solar Activity (in red) and Temperature Changes in the Arctic (in blue) :

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For their Theory to "hold water", given [1], it seems the Arctic Temperatures should, in fact, be falling eh ?

Indeed is there conclusive evidence in support of such an Assertion ?

Or is the available evidence (in the 12 years since the Documentary was made) now insufficient to reach such a Conclusion ?

:sherlock:

[Didgevillage]

The temperatures in the arctic regions do not determine the Ice Age glacial/interglacial flip-flop.
The deep Atlantic water temperature does.

The Holocene (the interglacial period we just had) has virtually ended. It started about 13,000 years ago with a bang with sudden increases in global (I hate to use this masonic term) temperatures, but with an overall cooling trend, rising moderately every 1,000 years.

2,000 years ago, Europe was so warm the Romans cultivate grapes in Britain for wine.
1,000 years ago, Greenland turned green and the Vikings settled there for agriculture and lived there for generations.

The very last and puny rise was in the 1990s and the temperature won't rise again.

[Bubu]

Now that we know "global warming" is a swindle, we have to ask ourselves what its motives are. And cui bono?

This is my take. Ice Age glacial is fast approaching and will be here sometime this century. The elite and controllers of the world know it but want avoid a mass panic, because Ice Age glacial will do catastrophic damages, while a temperature rise of a few degrees and abundance of CO2 promote life on earth.
Their lie is typical "black is white," "ugly is beautiful" and "bad is good" inversion.



But isn't panic what they wanted all the time. Look at all those false flags.

[Didgevillage]

Panics (so-called) with false flag will fade away, once the people get bored.
But the fast-approaching glacial period will promote the people to urge the government to do something about REAL danger.

New York City was buried under an ice sheet thousands of feet high, taller than Mt Everest.
(That's why skyscrapers could be built over hardened ground in 1930s)
This is the fate of the most surface areas of Canada and US.

Food production and deliveries for 7 billion will be a real problem.
That's the real reason for population reduction. Georgia Guidestones, everyone?

One advantage may be, continental shelves appear from under oceans but I wouldn't rush to buy real estate there.

[Cara]

Short, concise and an excellent summary of how statistics are being manipulated to drive the climate change narrative. This is a great one to share.

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Premiered Sep 20, 2019
This is my most concise expose of climate fraud. Please pass it around to everyone you know and your elected officials. The video is short, but cuts right to the heart of the matter.

[onawah]

Getting Us to Prepare for the Opposite of What We Are Really Facing
10/16/19
Adapt 2030

"Winter is Coming Cycles of Change Presentation: A comprehensive PDF slide presentation with accompanying MP3 narration of the slides by David DuByne, author of Climate Revolution. Over an hour of detailed explanation and documentation of the rapidly approaching periods of life-changing cold we will soon experience and how it will reduce global crop yields leading to a prolonged economic contraction.
ADAPT 2030 Cycles of Change Presentation https://payhip.com/b/6q4S

Climate Revolution: A ‘Must Read’ for understanding our Sun driven climate as we progress deeper into the new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum. Weather extremes leading to Global food scarcity and high food prices are here now, and this book describes the expected changes, how to survive & thrive during future challenging times with practical preparations."
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[Cara]

News from NASA on the ozone hole and climate:


Ozone hole shrinks to lowest size since 1982, unrelated to climate change: NASA

BY JOHN BOWDEN

Scientists at NASA said Monday that the hole in the Earth's ozone layer has shrunk to the smallest size on record since it was first detected in the 1980s.

A press release (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2019/2019-ozone-hole-is-the-smallest-on-record-since-its-discovery) from the agency reported that the hole, which naturally grows and shrinks every year due to temperatures in the Arctic, had shrunk to its yearly low in late September and October, surpassing record lows registered in past years.

The hole now sits at 3.9 million square miles, according to NASA, the lowest level on record since the hole was first detected in 1982. Scientists at NASA's headquarters in Greenbelt, Md., said that the change in temperatures leading to warmer air in the Arctic, which contributes to ozone gap shrinkage, was related to normal yearly phenomenon and not climate change.

"It's great news for ozone in the Southern Hemisphere," said Paul Newman, chief scientist for earth sciences at the facility. "But it's important to recognize that what we're seeing this year is due to warmer stratospheric temperatures. It's not a sign that atmospheric ozone is suddenly on a fast track to recovery."

"This year, ozonesonde measurements at the South Pole did not show any portions of the atmosphere where ozone was completely depleted," added Bryan Johnson, an atmospheric scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Boulder, Colo., laboratory.

Scientists are hoping that the dangerous hole in the Earth's ozone layer, which contributes to increased negative effects from ultraviolet rays across the world, will dissipate following the decision to ban ozone-harming chemicals, some of which remain in the atmosphere, during the 1970s.

Updated on Oct. 22 at 7:39 a.m.
From: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/466792-ozone-hole-shrinks-to-lowest-size-since-1982-unrelated-to-climate?amp&__twitter_impression=true

[Franny]

Donald Trump did the RIGHT thing on pulling out of Paris Accords

Dr Shiva Ayyadurai explains why it was a good idea to pull out of the Paris Accords, pollution, the Carbon Credits scam and the global elite who benefit financially from it.

A good one to share with people who might not know how this works.

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[greybeard]

As said before the changes in the weather etc is cyclic so no need to make people feel guilty.
True its not good to overuse earths resources --but its not going to make that much difference if we all got a better carbon, eco friendly, foot print.
Chris

[Wind]

It's snowing here, I sure wish there would be a global warming.

[DeDukshyn]

It's snowing here, I sure wish there would be a global warming.

Same here ... miserable Canadian winters ... (even though technically fall just started, winter can start at any moment mid-october in many places in Canada). We've already had several large dumps of snow this year, and now we have crazy gusting wind too, it was up to 150km/h the other day.


https://postmediacalgaryherald2.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/snow.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=371&h=412&crop=1

[Cara]

This is a pretty good presentation on global cycles of climate covering things from a food and societal perspective. Less technical than some others that have been shared:

OOK-6V-jOH0

Published on Nov 4, 2019
Solar activity occurs in cycles, the most well-known is the 11-year solar maximum to solar minimum, but our Sun also goes through longer duration more powerful cycles occurring in 400, 2000, 3600 and 7200 year intervals. Effects on societies during these Grand Solar Minimum cycles has been well catalogued through the millennia but always results in food shortages, economic contraction and population migration. Our Earth is now being effected by the new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum and will intensify from this point forward through 2030 with the same effects on our modern world.

How will governments cope with this type of society reset button when global crop yields decline year-on-year resulting in explosive food prices and social instability? Would they warn the general public of the changes or choose to create excuses, divert attention from the issues, refuse to discuss or censor voices explaining amplified extreme weather events across our planet caused by Earth’s magnetosphere weakening due to the electromagnetic connection with our star moving into a 400-year cycle of reduced activity.

The science that explains the changes we are now seeing in our weather with a societal forecast to 2030 based on past cycles of the Grand Solar Minimum. It's not CO2, It's not you, It's the Sun.

Bio

David DuByne is the creator of the ADAPT 2030 Mini Ice Age 2105-2035 video series and Mini Ice Age Conversations Podcast was a former coffee buyer in N.E Myanmar around Pyin Oo Lwin and when coffee farmers told of cold weather damage to plants with top leaf kill, decreased bean density and the need to over plant by 13-14% to balance cold damage and die off in the farms, I went looking for answers.

David was a full CO2 warming believer, so it seemed strange that there was cold damage so near the equator in the country formerly known as Burma. I began to look for answers and it didn’t take long to find evidence that the Sun drives our climate and we are heading into another Grand Solar Minimum with profound effects on global food production. This stark realization that food is the base for society and by 2023 there will be global food shortages, at that point I had two choices, lie to myself and go back to sleep or bring truth forward.

Website: http://www.oilseedcrops.org

[Bill Ryan]

This is a pretty good presentation on global cycles of climate covering things from a food and societal perspective. Less technical than some others that have been shared:

OOK-6V-jOH0

Published on Nov 4, 2019
Solar activity occurs in cycles, the most well-known is the 11-year solar maximum to solar minimum, but our Sun also goes through longer duration more powerful cycles occurring in 400, 2000, 3600 and 7200 year intervals. Effects on societies during these Grand Solar Minimum cycles has been well catalogued through the millennia but always results in food shortages, economic contraction and population migration. Our Earth is now being effected by the new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum and will intensify from this point forward through 2030 with the same effects on our modern world.

How will governments cope with this type of society reset button when global crop yields decline year-on-year resulting in explosive food prices and social instability? Would they warn the general public of the changes or choose to create excuses, divert attention from the issues, refuse to discuss or censor voices explaining amplified extreme weather events across our planet caused by Earth’s magnetosphere weakening due to the electromagnetic connection with our star moving into a 400-year cycle of reduced activity.

The science that explains the changes we are now seeing in our weather with a societal forecast to 2030 based on past cycles of the Grand Solar Minimum. It's not CO2, It's not you, It's the Sun.

Bio

David DuByne is the creator of the ADAPT 2030 Mini Ice Age 2105-2035 video series and Mini Ice Age Conversations Podcast was a former coffee buyer in N.E Myanmar around Pyin Oo Lwin and when coffee farmers told of cold weather damage to plants with top leaf kill, decreased bean density and the need to over plant by 13-14% to balance cold damage and die off in the farms, I went looking for answers.

David was a full CO2 warming believer, so it seemed strange that there was cold damage so near the equator in the country formerly known as Burma. I began to look for answers and it didn’t take long to find evidence that the Sun drives our climate and we are heading into another Grand Solar Minimum with profound effects on global food production. This stark realization that food is the base for society and by 2023 there will be global food shortages, at that point I had two choices, lie to myself and go back to sleep or bring truth forward.

Website: http://www.oilseedcrops.org

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Excellent. Really, really excellent. This is now my go-to video to show people what's really happening with climate change. Everyone should see this, maybe more than once to best absorb and understand the huge amount of information it contains.

[Metaphor]

Wow, saw it and it was worth the time. Chilling video (pun intended)

[Chester]

If this is already here on this thread or somewhere else on PA, apologies.

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[rgray222]

Getting to the truth about many issues can be a difficult task, but global warming need not be one of those issues. We know long term weather patterns, we have reasonably good data on the suns activity, we know the earth has been deglaciated at least three times. We have the exact words from the power brokers at the UN pushing the global warming alarm bell and we have reams of data.

Politician and corporations have used fear and anger to incite change for decades. There are two global issues that the world has been propelled into that have caused immeasurable anger and fear. Unfettered immigration and global warming. In the case of global warming and to a lesser extent immigration we are being told that the usual suspect, USA, Europe, Russia, China and Asia can't fix the problems because they are causing the problems. In essence, these countries are the problem.

Now we have two major worldwide (global) problems without a savior in sight. Enter the United Nations with Climate Accords, Climate Treaties, Carbon Tax Suggestion, Carbon Offset Credits and eventually some hobbled together solution for immigration when it reaches the point of being intolerable. Now (we are almost there) you have One World Government sitting on your local doorstep.

So people around the world have come to the realization that no one country on its own can solve these worldwide global problems which will lead most of the unwoke world to determine that they are in need of a Unified World Government.

It is my view that immigration and climate change have been intentionally and systematically thrust upon the world to achieve a One World Government Solution.

I also believe, unfortunately, that this outcome is unstoppable. This does not foretell the end of the world but it does not augur well for worldwide stability. The globalists want a full-on financial and geopolitical shift to occur around the world as quickly as they can make it happen. 

[onawah]

Thanks for posting that Bill. I have been listening to some of DuByne's Adapt2030 regular presentations, and I think he is right on.
His voice is much easier to listen to in the video, for which I am grateful, since this info REALLY needs to get out there asap.
( His style in the updates is unpleasantly strident, unfortunately, though the info is still very much worth listening to, and should be encouraging lots more "survivalist" activity, in the best sense of the word.)



Excellent. Really, really excellent. This is now my go-to video to show people what's really happening with climate change. Everyone should see this, maybe more than once to best absorb and understand the huge amount of information it contains.

Lots from Russian researcher Valentina Zharkova and more here: https://watchers.news/2019/07/01/valentina-zharkova-on-the-upcoming-grand-solar-minimum/

[onawah]

The video here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2AwAeBB_a1s/
...is probably one to add to the list of great videos on why climate warming is a hoax.
(Hopefully that video can be embedded, though I haven't mastered all that as yet).
This video, according to Exomatrix here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108823-Top-10-Reasons-Why-Greta-Thunberg-Is-a--Victim-of-a--Fraud&p=1323082&viewfull=1#post1323082
"was banned from youtube and was 1 of the reasons (together with stop5g videos) I lost my EX0MATRlXTV (ExomatrixTV) YT Channel with 27,000+ subscribers!"




Excellent. Really, really excellent. This is now my go-to video to show people what's really happening with climate change. Everyone should see this, maybe more than once to best absorb and understand the huge amount of information it contains.

[Cara]

The video here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2AwAeBB_a1s/
...is probably one to add to the list of great videos on why climate warming is a hoax.
(Hopefully that video can be embedded, though I haven't mastered all that as yet).

Moderator note from Cara:

We have not yet managed to find a way to embed bitchute videos.

However, videos for which you have a direct url (link) to the MP4, OGG or WebM file online can be embedded using the tags:
UrlGoesHere.

The button for these tags is the last one in the row above the post edit area: http://projectavalon.net/images/mp4.png

[Tintin]

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Yes, a really important presentation from Senator Roberts, and of course the excellent David Dubyne work also on this thread.

Copies of both will be made available in the library soon so that we have an historical record.

I'm currently sleuthing for Elaine Dewar's "Cloak of Green" with some success, but, would be very grateful if someone else was able to email me a pdf of the full book at some point :)

Thank you :flower:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thank you for that, an excellent presentation, and definitely worth archiving.

I found that https://www.tubeoffline.com/download-BitChute-videos.php is a useful tool for downloading and saving Bitchute videos.

[Tintin]

As a very handy follow-up here I've sourced this presentation which I am unfortunately unclear on who made it.

Methinks it could have been Tom Heller, at Lethbridge? If someone could please clear that up, that would be great :highfive:

In the meantime, this summarises very nicely many of the points included in the DuByne and Sen. Roberts material upthread.

http://www.sacpa.ca/userfile/file/Lethbridge%20Actual%201.pdf






Note from Bill: document properties state it was created on 31 May, 2012. No author named, but it's an American or Canadian, because of spelling and US Letter format. It seems to be nowhere else on the net apart from Scribd, but there's no attribution there either.

[onawah]

Richie Allen, David DyByne, Valentina Zharkova --Extinction Rebellion Global Crop Shortage Timelines Match 2028
11/13/19
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This is a pretty good presentation on global cycles of climate covering things from a food and societal perspective. Less technical than some others that have been shared:


Published on Nov 4, 2019
Solar activity occurs in cycles, the most well-known is the 11-year solar maximum to solar minimum, but our Sun also goes through longer duration more powerful cycles occurring in 400, 2000, 3600 and 7200 year intervals. Effects on societies during these Grand Solar Minimum cycles has been well catalogued through the millennia but always results in food shortages, economic contraction and population migration. Our Earth is now being effected by the new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum and will intensify from this point forward through 2030 with the same effects on our modern world.

How will governments cope with this type of society reset button when global crop yields decline year-on-year resulting in explosive food prices and social instability? Would they warn the general public of the changes or choose to create excuses, divert attention from the issues, refuse to discuss or censor voices explaining amplified extreme weather events across our planet caused by Earth’s magnetosphere weakening due to the electromagnetic connection with our star moving into a 400-year cycle of reduced activity.

The science that explains the changes we are now seeing in our weather with a societal forecast to 2030 based on past cycles of the Grand Solar Minimum. It's not CO2, It's not you, It's the Sun.

Bio

David DuByne is the creator of the ADAPT 2030 Mini Ice Age 2105-2035 video series and Mini Ice Age Conversations Podcast was a former coffee buyer in N.E Myanmar around Pyin Oo Lwin and when coffee farmers told of cold weather damage to plants with top leaf kill, decreased bean density and the need to over plant by 13-14% to balance cold damage and die off in the farms, I went looking for answers.

David was a full CO2 warming believer, so it seemed strange that there was cold damage so near the equator in the country formerly known as Burma. I began to look for answers and it didn’t take long to find evidence that the Sun drives our climate and we are heading into another Grand Solar Minimum with profound effects on global food production. This stark realization that food is the base for society and by 2023 there will be global food shortages, at that point I had two choices, lie to myself and go back to sleep or bring truth forward.

Website: http://www.oilseedcrops.org

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Excellent. Really, really excellent. This is now my go-to video to show people what's really happening with climate change. Everyone should see this, maybe more than once to best absorb and understand the huge amount of information it contains.
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Richie Allen's show talking with Valentina Zharkova
6/25/19
(Don't know why the photos for the youtube vid are of Trump and that other guy--:confused:it's the right URL. Valentina comes in at 19 minutes. )
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"Richie is joined by Northumbria University Professor Valentina Zharkova and legendary publisher of The Trends Journal, Gerald Celente.
Professor Valentina Zharkova lectures in mathematics at Northumbria University. She has a PHD in Astrophysics. She published a paper predicting a reduction in solar activity in the coming years that will plunge the planet into several decades of much colder temperatures. She believes that solar activity and sun spots drive climate on Earth and not man made Co2. She's controversial, but brilliant and has the mathematical proof to support her claims."

[Baby Steps]

A current report from Gujarat, India

Crops now should be maturing in sunlit dry conditions

Weather is unusual currently with much rain and giant hail

Crops are rotting in the fields

[onawah]

David DuByne of Adapt 2030 again:
This Cycle its Going To Be Different (911)
Nov 14, 2019
Adapt 2030

" It's Not CO2 its the Sun

"With heavier more powerful cycles at our door step we as a society need to have conversations on global food security. We as a species have even forgotten major celestial events as recently as 200 years with the meteor shower of 1833 in SE USA and the Carrington event that aurora were seen in South America. Now this year unprecedented blizzards, Arctic freezes cover the N. Hemisphere and the coldest temperature ever recorded in October in the N. Hemisphere in Utah. Changes have begun. "
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(Also posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92384-Weird-wild-weather-floods-freak-storms-giant-hail-record-lows-all-over-the-world&p=1323583&viewfull=1#post1323583 )

[onawah]

Unsettling 150 Year Cold in the Warmest Year Ever
Nov 16, 2019
Adapt 2030
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"With the Arctic blast of early November 2019 being officially put into record, lets look back at the thousand or so all time cold records smashing and eclipsing the oldest records we have in the US and Canada. Even the Washington Post calling the event unprecedented coldest earliest ever recorded for this early in the year, which says a lot about how intense this event was. The UK and Nordic countries also setting dozens of all time cold records with record snow accumulations as well. Question, how do you think this will affect food pricing in the future?"

[onawah]

Prince Charles issues stark climate change warning
Nov 22, 2019

(Another funny case where the public is not buying what the royals (in this case, Prince Charles) are selling...
(Check out the comment section) :lol: )

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[onawah]

Sardonic weather report from Sky News Australia
Outsiders weather and ice age watch: Historic snow levels hit US
Nov 30, 2019
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[ExomatrixTV]

Tony Heller's Gift To Climate Alarmists
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"This is my most concise expose of climate fraud. Please pass it around to everyone you know and your elected officials. The video is short, but cuts right to the heart of the matter."

Tony Heller

[prc]

I would like to report that today is the 6th of December, in Brazil (Southeast region) we should be seeing temperatures above 35 degree celsius up to 39 or 40 degree celsius but actually we are seeing as of today temperatures of 22 degree celsius, cloudy weather.

[ExomatrixTV]

Mass Climate Hypnosis:
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[ExomatrixTV]

Clumsy' Media Watch 'couldn't even figure out what they were criticizing Ian Plimer for'
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Sydney Institute’s Gerard Henderson has called Paul Barry’s latest attack on geologist Ian Plimer, claiming that client scientists dubbed his comments on carbon as “biased” & “inaccurate”.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[onawah]

Who Controls Food Controls Society (R Wayne Steiger 2/2)
Dec 7, 2019
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Adapt 2030(AUDIO PODCAST) MIAC #256 Who Controls Food Controls Society http://adapt2030.libsyn.com/miac-256-...

"R Wayne Steiger and David DuByne of ADAPT 2030 discuss changes in consciousness and frequency on Earth as the Sun moves into its 400+ year cycle affecting global crop production, the economy and everyone on our planet. Terra-forming, decreasing crop yields and how society is setting up for a massive transition.

R Wayne Steiger YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPu4...
“The Steiger Perspective” Thursday evenings 10 PM EST on the Artist First Radio Network https://www.artistfirst.com/steiger.htm
Our Original Interview “How Cold Adapt 2030” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4SJ...

•China breaking the life barrier technology
•New grown zones emerging North Africa
•New rain cycles return to Yemen, Oman and Saudi Arabia
•All time record rainfall Iran in 2019 with early blizzards
•Rivers flow after 2500 years in Afghanistan
•Immense opportunities in the Grand Solar Minimum
•Pandemics of past Grand Solar Minimums
•Cosmic ray effects on human psychology and human health
•XingJiang China 2000 year rain cycle repeats
•Planting harvesting seasons are at the wrong time

🔵 ADAPT 2030 Grand Solar Minimum Preparedness Portal
https://amzn.to/2Nt9kfP "

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[onawah]

How Cold Will It Go? A Timeline
This is a continuation of the same conversation posted above in post #57, Foodopoly.
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And this is part 1, Collapsing Food Distribution and 5G Entities
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( The videos are all still available to view in the US.)

These are an ongoing discussion from several recent days between two "Preppers" covering many subjects from ET and/or ED entities influence on this planet, to AI, to 5G, to the US credit economy, and how the elites are preparing for the Ice Age in secret, to foods that are good to cultivate for survival and much more.

[Kindred]

Here's a video detailing an analysis regarding the origin of the "97% consensus" of scientists regarding the hysteria about "climate change". This is a presentation assembled by the "Friends of Science" organization, presented by Michele Stirling (I think that's her last name - I could just barely read her name on the opening slide of her presentation as her introduction was not part of the video). An excellent presentation that details the misdirection and misinformation used to trick people into believing the 'climate change catastrophe' hoax. 42 min.

"Friends of Science Society has done a deconstruction of several of the most cited '97% consensus' studies, only to find there is no consensus. They're fooling you with group think. You can see how it works in this video of the Asch Conformity Experiment, introduced by psychologist Dr. Philip Zimbardo, which is referred to in the above presentation."

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Note: This does NOT mean humanity should continue burning fossil fuels, and further, that we need to clean up the mess we've made of the planet. As most of the members here on Avalon know, humanity has all the technology it needs to make our world a paradise, if we can but - somehow - get these technologies out to the public, and even more importantly, raise humanity's consciousness to the level that we recognize our connection both with each other, and with the Earth herself such that we won't even Think about polluting our home in the manner seen today.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[sunwings]

David Bellamy (British people will know him) sadly died today. I think his quote fits nicely here.

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[onawah]

Possible Safe Zones During the Grand Solar Minimum Risk Assessment
Adapt 2030
12/13/19
(Addresses some of the immediate changes that the Grand Solar Minimum is already causing and what we can expect in the near future.)

"Celeste Solum author of Electromagnetic Radiation Protection Solutions and David DuByne from ADAPT 2030 discuss hardening your home during unseasonable cold and possible safe locations across the planet during the Grand Solar Minimum so you can protect your families during these changing times. "
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[ExomatrixTV]

Serious Question: Does this video show any hints of a "Global Warming" Al Gore (https://youtu.be/8gfdiq0jbVk) warned us about decades ago? ... Nope not at all!
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[AutumnW]

In 2003, the Office of Net Assessment at the United States Department of Defense was commissioned to produce a study on the likely and potential effects of abrupt modern climate change should a shutdown of thermohaline circulation occur.[47] The study, conducted under ONA head Andrew Marshall, modelled its prospective climate change on the 8.2 kiloyear event, precisely because it was the middle alternative between the Younger Dryas and the Little Ice Age. Scientists acknowledge that "abrupt climate change initiated by Greenland ice sheet melting is not a realistic scenario for the 21st century". From Wikipedia--and consensus hasn't been reached on that one.

thermohaline circulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGrBhK2c7U

Regardless of cause, colder winters and hotter summers in Europe are happening, as far as I know, with temperatures being warmer --- on average.

[Pam]

This is a wonderful video created by a young gal that I think would be wonderful to share with kids or adults that don't want to invest a huge amount of time or mental energy to understand the topic. This was done in 2015 before the cooling trend began.zDOgWeTAas0

[Pam]

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[ExomatrixTV]

Even if there were NO humans on planet Earth the climate will change ANYWAY ... it is called: "4 Seasons" and it happens for millions of years ... Four seasons happen because of the tilt of the Earth's axis. At different times of the year, the sun's rays hit different parts of the globe more directly .... On top of that we have every 11 years CYCLICAL SOLAR STORMS affecting the climate of ALL Planets in our Solar System! ... Like having more Earth Quakes & much more Volcano Activities on the whole planet! (am not even mentioning Cosmic Gamma Rays fluctuation hitting the Earth in highs & lows) ... and they want to DENY all of that happens without human help without human interference ...

So who is the real climate denier and who is the climate-realist? ... The scale of non-human effects on Cyclical Climate Change is so vast and so big they decided to IGNORE all of it to demonize anyone who challenges their version of human climate effects. At the same time they willfully ignore different types of overt & covert GEOENGINEERING (https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/geoengineering) projects creating artificial local weather extremes and blame it in CO2 what plants breathe for f sake!

They even deny Global Cooling & Warming (Change) trends happened for millions of years when we had no human created pollution of any kind. The MASSIVE FRAUD (and systematical brainwashing) that is going on is NOT only how much the scale is we humans affect the climate trend also how much we suppose to "correct" it with our so called CO2 emissions that ALL plants need to breathe! ... This "Global Carbon Tax" aka "Global Governance" Agenda is connected to A.I. 5G (http://Stop5G.net) Smart Surveillance Grid Micromanaging everybody to "Save The Earth" BS ... Pushing for a Totalitarian Collectivism punishing everybody who is against it ... Just study what happens in Chinese "Social Credit System (https://www.google.com/search?&q=Social+Credit+System+site%3Ayoutube.com)" (Black Mirror Episode (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIKh7AnTIk) going for real!) that soon will be implemented everywhere between now and 2030. You losing privileges if you do not bow down (comply) to their Orwellian system based upon massive lies & deception. Tyrannical Agenda 21 (https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/jun/24/agenda-21-conspiracy-theory-sustainability) is real and ignoring it will not make it go away. You can ignore all what I just said but you can not ignore the consequences of what is to come. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to see what their true motives are.

Cheers,
John Kuhles 17-12-2019
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G) & Stop5G.net (http://stop5g.net)

[onawah]

EXTREME COLD “BOTTOMED OUT THE MERCURY” AT -50C (OR MORE) IN CHILCOTIN, B.C.
JANUARY 17, 2020
by CAP ALLON ELECTROVERSE DOCUMENTING EARTH CHANGES DURING THE NEXT GSM AND POLE SHIFT
https://electroverse.net/extreme-cold-bottomed-out-the-mercury-at-50c-in-chilcotin-b-c/

https://i0.wp.com/electroverse.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Chilcotin-Chill.jpg?w=1200&ssl=1

"Off-grid homesteaders living in the Chilcotin’s remote northwest wilderness have reported record-breaking cold for the region.

Jennifer and Arön Toland, along with their neighbors, say this week’s nighttime temperatures have literally “bottomed out the Mercury,” with temps going far-beyond what their thermometers can handle.

“Last night was the coldest anyone can remember,” said Jennifer.

“Pipes froze, log cabins logs cracked, but miraculously the chickens survived in an unheated coop.”
But despite this week’s big freeze, the families said they wouldn’t change their lives at all living remotely and operating a wilderness lodge, Eliguk Lake Lodge Outfitters.

“We all communicate through solar-powered satellite, and check on each other,” explained Jennifer.

“We love the off-grid-life and it’s even part of our business. Arön was out packing down the runway on Eliguk Lake for bush planes last night for three hours in the dark just before we hit -40C,” she said.ENVIRONMENT CANADA FRAUD
The closest weather station to Eliguk Lake is a forestry station at Moose Lake about 13.2 km NE.

Conveniently though, the station has been out of service during this week’s record-cold spell.

Matt MacDonald, an Environment Canada (EC) Warning Preparedness Meteorologist, said -50C and beyond is pretty unheard of for the region: “Usually those temperatures are confined to the Yukon and Northwest Territories. It is completely possible. There is quite a bit of variability in temperature from one spot to the other.”

As a result of the station being out of action, the all-but-certain record-smashing new low will never be officially logged. And this part of my frustration with government ‘climate’ agencies — imagine a station going off-line just days before a heatwave… it wound’t be allowed to happen.

Rural weather stations, like the one at Moose Lake, should be among the best maintained as they give a far more accurate temperature reading than urban stations which are skewed by the UHI-effect.

MacDonald did, however, have a few excuses lined-up and ready to fire: “Because it’s a forestry station, they make sure it is running through the spring, summer, and fall months; but a lot of them get capped or what we call ‘winterized’ in the winter months because they don’t need the data.”

In the midst of a supposed Climate Catastrophe: “we don’t need the data,” says Environment Canada.

More like: “we don’t need record-cold driving down our averages.”


The lower latitudes are refreezing in line with historically low solar activity:
https://i1.wp.com/electroverse.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Solar-Cycle-25-NASA-full.png?resize=768%2C320&ssl=1

And it’s only expected to get colder from here, as the sun sinks further into its next 400-year Grand Solar Minimum cycle:

https://i1.wp.com/electroverse.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/GSM-and-Sunspots.png?resize=768%2C299&ssl=1

Don’t be fooled by bogus political agendas — our future is one of ever-descending COLD, and of CROP LOSS — prepare accordingly — relocate if need be, and grow your own.


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Grand Solar Minimum + Pole Shift

https://electroverse.net/b-c-is-about-to-be-colder-than-its-ever-been-in-over-a-century/
https://i1.wp.com/electroverse.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/cold-Canada-e1578917514710.png?w=840&ssl=1

NASA Predicts Next Solar Cycle will be Lowest in 200 Years (Dalton Minimum Levels) + the Implications
NASA is effectively forecasting a return to the Dalton Minimum (1790-1830) but gives no mention of the brutal cold, crop loss, famine, war and powerful Volcanic eruptions associated with it…https://electroverse.net/nasa-predicts-next-solar-cycle-will-be-lowest-in-200-years-dalton-minimum-levels-the-implications/ "

[onawah]

The Cold is Getting Colder
Published by ColdClimate Admin
May 28, 2020
https://coldclimatechange.com/the-cold-is-getting-colder/

"The elite think they know what they are doing, they certainly have access to the best information so they know that they are collapsing the world economy, and they know the human race is going to be clobbered by dropping temperature that will affect both agriculture and people’s ability to keep warm, since it does costs quite a bit to heat most houses.

The sun is in deep hibernation, 5G is being turned on in hundreds of cities and people are already lining up in record numbers on food lines. With the coronavirus as an excuse they are extinguishing the free spirit of humanity as anxiety and fear are fed by the media. Anyone who expects a fast recovery out of the viral mania is delusional as human activity and freedom are crushed.

The climate change lies should highlight for everyone the lies that are being told about the coronavirus, ramrodding lock-downs on billions of people because of the arrogance of health officials who do not want to listen to doctors and many other medical scientists who plainly do not agree with the public narrative. There has been no such thing of climate honesty and the same with the pandemic.

Have you read that more than 500 doctors have added their names to a letter to President Trump urging him to end the lockdown, warning that it will cause more death than the coronavirus itself. How about Antibody tests used to determine if people have been infected in the past with Covid-19 might be wrong up to half the time, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in new guidance posted on its website. Or that the CDC confirmed remarkably lower coronavirus death rates. Where is the media? Same with the climate. Where is the media on reports of the record cold and snow?

Record (sometimes historic) COLD is currently buffeting vast regions of the globe, from North America to Australia, Europe to Southern Africa. It is actually still snowing in America on the 22 of May. Winter advisory in effect for Montana also on the 22nd. Down Under – Brisbane just had its coldest May day in 98 years. Parts of the UK and US have suffered their lowest May temperatures on record.

Global warming is being reduced to wishful thinking as the sun sleeps; and its getting colder and colder down here on planet earth. Temperatures are now dropping fast, to fast to hide. However, no matter how cold it gets its hot for some people and no matter how much ice is at the poles it is always threatening to disappear.

Today the ice in the arctic is just a little under the 30 year average meaning nothing has melted except in the imaginations of global warming simpletons like Bill Gates, who has made a war against CO2, the most essential gas for life except oxygen. For all his huffing and puffing he knows nothing about CO2.

GLOBAL TEMPERATURES SUFFER SECOND LARGEST TWO MONTH DROP IN RECORDED HISTORY. The Temperature of the Global Lower Atmosphere plunged 0.38C through March and April, halving its February above baseline high of 0.76C to 0.38C — the second-largest two-month drop in the UAH temperature dataset. Temperatures are plunging and temperatures in Europe are forecast to be cold this summer. The Grand Solar Minimum is intensifying — and fast.

Cold and snow in the Baltic States and Belarus on May 21st. California – Winter weather in May! Unprecedented late night frost in the Netherlands on the 17th of May. Germany – Winter weather hammers Bavaria – New snow in May. CALGARY TIES ITS LONGEST STREAK BELOW 20C (68F) IN RECORDED HISTORY. Record cold in Slovakia. Coldest May 22 in at least 69 years.

The Sun Is Asleep – This article made it to the mainstream media!
“The Sun Is Asleep: Deep ‘Solar Minimum’ Feared As 2020 Sees Record-Setting 100-Day Slump,” reads the headline on Forbes.com. “Our star—the Sun—is having a lockdown all of its own. Spaceweather.com reports that already there have been 100 days in 2020 when our Sun has displayed zero sunspots. That makes 2020 the second consecutive year of a record-setting low number of sunspots.”

North America has set 233 new all-time Monthly Low
Temperature Records in May (so far) vs just the 18 Record Highs.

“This is a sign that solar minimum is underway,” reads SpaceWeather.com. “So far this year, the Sun has been blank 76% of the time, a rate surpassed only once before in the Space Age. Last year, 2019, the Sun was blank 77% of the time. Two consecutive years of record-setting spotlessness adds up to a very deep solar minimum, indeed.”

Conclusion

It is almost time to drag the owners of the press out of their offices and time to close certain governmental agencies and certainly time to drag out the tar and feathers. For 12 years I have known and reported on climate change, cold climate change. What has been obvious are the lies of the press and that science has been corrupted.

“The Sun was by far the main driver of global temperature for the last 10,000 years. CO2 is innocent; it has no climate effect; the simultaneous rise in temperature and CO2 is pure accident; CO2’s residual ‘greenhouse effect’ is effectively nil,” writes Dr Roger Higgs.

All of this will affect food prices as the growing season is shortening and with the effects of the coronavirus lock-down already we are seeing prices at supermarkets rising at the highest rate in eight years, as the coronavirus constricts meat production and grocery chains limit sales, said the USDA in its last monthly forecast. Grocery prices will rise by a higher-than-average 2.5 percent this year, double the previous estimate."

Spring Blizzard in China

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[Tintin]

From Anthony Watts at the WattsUpWithThat website some information on a new book release (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/08/new-book-climate-change-the-facts-2020/). One for the reading list perhaps.

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New book: Climate Change: The Facts 2020
Anthony Watts | October 8, 2020

The Institute of Public Affairs today announced the release of a significant new book of research Climate Change: The Facts 2020 published by the Institute of Public Affairs and Australian Scholarly Publishing.

On 24 September 2019, the 17-year-old activist Greta Thunberg addressed the United Nations Climate Action Summit saying, “People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.” A day earlier, however, the climate policy foundation Climate Intelligence (CLINTEL) sent the UN their World Climate Declaration, signed by 800 prominent scientists including Nobel Laureate Professor Ivar Giaever and Greenpeace co-founder Dr. Patrick Moore, stating that there is no climate emergency: “You’re tired of alarmism and failed predictions of climate models that can’t predict the past, let alone the future. You distrust the business leaders, politicians and scientists of the climate industrial complex – you just want The Facts.”

This book contains original research and new theories of climate and will arm you with these facts. Leading scientists are contributors, including former Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Center Dr. Roy Spencer, and lead author of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Third Assessment Report Professor Emeritus of Meteorology Richard Lindzen of Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and many more.

Climate Change: The Facts 2020 is the definitive guide to the latest international research and analysis on climate change science and policy. Twenty experts in their field from across five countries have written original contributions on the key issues of scientific, political, and public debate about climate change.

​Some of the issues addressed in chapters in Climate Change: The Facts 2020 include:



- the extent and variability of sea level change
- the historical record of temperature and ice coverage in the Antarctic
- the impact of climate change on polar bear populations
- the manipulation of temperature data by the Bureau of Meteorology
- whether the Australian bushfires 2019-20 were in fact ‘unprecedented’; and
- the prevalence of ‘noble cause’ corruption in climate science.

Dr Jennifer Marohasy, editor of Climate Change: The Facts 2020 and Senior Fellow at the IPA said “The contributors to Climate Change: The Facts 2020 don’t necessarily agree on the extent that recent global warming may be affected by human activity – but they all share the perspective that any such warming is subject to cycles, and is not unusual in its rate or magnitude, and is not catastrophic.”

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Climate Change: The Facts 2020 is the fourth edition in the IPA’s Climate Change: The Facts series that commenced in 2010.

Climate Change: The Facts 2020 is available to purchase at climatechangethefacts.org.au (https://climatechangethefacts.org.au/) in Australia and is also available on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Climate-Change-Facts-Jennifer-Marohasy/dp/192598494X/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&tag=wattsupwithth-20) for global delivery.

[onawah]

3rd CME Erupts, Earth Axis Shifting, Oceans Changing
60,542 views•Apr 25, 2021
Suspicious Observer

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[onawah]

AI forecasts Grand Solar Minimum
Why Is This Information Being Released Now In 2021?
17,131 views
4/28/21
2.2K
Adapt 2030
133K subscribers

"Artificial Intelligence has forecast Grand Solar Minimum level sunspot activity beginning now through 2050, this has made it through the main stream media. Interestingly, the same information was released in 2015 by Valentina Zharkova but denied and dismissed. Why is this solar activity information being released at this moment ? Is it to explain why all continents are experiencing crop damage and yield reductions from abnormal cold? My findings and thoughts are explained in the video. Thank you for watching." 7xPZ5Gex8IY

[Bill Ryan]

Here's an interesting confluence: J.R Nyquist (http://jrnyquist.blog) (historian and researcher into Russian and Chinese dissidents) interviews David DuByne, from Adapt 2030 (https://www.youtube.com/c/Adapt2030/videos). Enjoy. :sun:

(Note: very relevant, and also discussed in depth in the video, is the topic of the Avalon thread Food shortages are unavoidable now. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111686-Food-shortages-are-unavoidable-now.))


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvDsZkmpwM

J.R Nyquist's comment (https://jrnyquist.blog/2021/09/12/global-cooling-an-interview-with-david-dubyne/):
Is global warming real, or are we facing global cooling? I had the pleasure of interviewing David DuByne on Saturday, September 11. David has been talking about the coming of a mini Ice Age.

He also knows a great deal about changes in the Earth’s electromagnetic field, food supply issues, farming, and theories regarding catastrophic earth changes.

One of the big questions is whether the Chinese and Russians have advanced knowledge of these climate changes. If so, are there strategic ramifications?

[ZenBaller]

Regarding Global Cooling, you can follow Theodore White on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/theodore.white1). He is a quite assertive astrologer and astrometeorologer. I don't know his accuracy, but all his analyses are very thorough as well as his recent ones (https://www.facebook.com/theodore.white1/posts/10159543251399872). He connects the pandemic with a forthcoming extremely heavy winter with severe consequences worldwide. There's more information on the link above.


FORECAST: 'POWERFUL WINTER IS COMING'
'Prepare For Pandemic of the Vaccinated' - As Forecast
Grim Times Ahead - Winter 2021-2022 & Spring 2022
Time to Soon Batten Down The Hatches
Forecast by Theodore White, astromet.sci

Now that the northern hemisphere is into the last 10-solar day degrees of summer 2021; my prediction of the new wave in the two-year global pandemic will soon be tested.
I have warned all world governments, public health departments and media of what is ahead and how the numbers never lie.

Despite the attempts at cancel culture, misinformation and active propaganda - all those who continued to ignore multiple warnings of what is come will be shown to be what they are - again, the celestial motions - that is the MATH - does not lie.

As the quiescent Sun lowers now in the Virgo skies to its autumnal equinox on Sept. 22, 2021, know that one of the worst winter seasons in memory is on tap.

I have been warning for years about this particular winter which will be so strong and powerful, that it will swallow much of spring 2022.

Meanwhile, those who have been vaccinated and have been spreading the spike protein virus among large summer vacation crowds; at baseball and football games, at concerts, and other large venues in the United States, urged by Joe Biden's administration since June 2021 - are able to enter a dire and dark span of time as the climate turns colder and for a longer span of time.

Those looking to relocate to prepare for what will be a long extended winter; still have time, but must either be ready to move at a moment's notice, or to make stability plans to remain safely - and healthy - in place. To discover more, you can contact me at astro730@gmail.com

In the meantime, here is a repost of what to expect just ahead with tips offered to help you get through what will become one of the most notable winter and early spring seasons of your lifetime.

Try to avoid the misinformation and quit having others who do not care about you waste your time - remember my forecast, for It is nearly time to batten down the hatches.

[Bill Ryan]

Copying this post by Helvetic on his thread:

(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1693804&viewfull=1#post1693804)~~~

Dr. Valentina Zharkova | Earths Cooling Cycle Has Begun | Dec. 1, 2025

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Description:

Dr. Valentina Zharkova returns to share her findings, expertise, professional history as well as the way Solar Cycles operate and the science associated with them. Dr. Zharkova is the Emeritus Professor at North Umbria Newcastle and the owner and principal investigator at solargsm.com where she publishes scientific papers, media interviews and articles. She has a Phd in Applied Mathematics, in Astrophysics, in the area of Radiative Transfer and she leads critical investigations into energy particles and solar flares. There are few people on the planet with her extensive whole systems expertise in terms of what's really happening with the sun and the climate.

In this current interview, Kim addresses the fierce opposition Dr. Zharkova faces, including what factors she used to get the data that she amassed. You may be shocked to find out the bias of AI ecosystems and what they are specifically putting out. Kim asks Dr. Zharkova specifically to address what GROK says about The Grand Solar Minimum and about her work. She is one of the very few people on earth with the training and expertise to put together disciplines which are missing and ignored as part of Solar Science and Planetary Cycles related to both Cooling and Warming.

If in fact, more people would receive what she says, preparations for life on earth will be very different than anything we have ever heard before. Turn into the earlier interview Kim did with Dr. Zharkova in 2023 called The Elephant in The Climate Change Space.You will find out that what you are preparing for regarding warming is not only not happening but, information is being censored to prevent you from preparing for this specific Solar Cycle. Don’t miss this briefing update with the Copernicus of the modern day.

Website: solargsm.com (http://solargsm.com) (contains all papers, slides, interviews, and updates).


Key Points:

2015 Prediction Confirmed

• In 2015 she and her team predicted a 60% drop in solar activity starting ~2020, leading to a Grand Solar Minimum similar to the Maunder Minimum (1645–1715).

• This was derived from direct observations of the Sun’s solar background magnetic field (poloidal field) using principal component analysis — not modeling.

• The prediction is now unfolding exactly as forecast: solar cycle 25 is weaker than expected, and activity is already declining rapidly after 2024–2025.


Distinction: Sunspots vs. Background Magnetic Field

• Critics point to relatively high sunspot numbers in cycle 25 to discredit her.

• Zharkova explains: sunspots are produced by strong toroidal magnetic loops; the underlying poloidal (background) field is dramatically weakening → fewer flares, less overall solar output, even if sunspot count temporarily rises.


Natural Causes of Recent Warming

• Recent warming (especially in the Northern Hemisphere) is largely caused by Solar Inertial Motion(the Sun wobbling around the solar system’s barycenter due to gravitational pull of giant planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune).

• Using NASA’s own ephemerides data, she shows the Sun has moved closer to Earth in recent decades, increasing solar irradiance reaching the Northern Hemisphere by ~12 W/m² (far exceeding the ~3 W/m² drop expected during the Grand Solar Minimum).

• This ~2,100–2,200-year Hallstatt cycle explains past warming/cooling episodes without any human CO₂ involvement.


CO₂ and Anthropogenic Global Warming

• CO₂ increase lags temperature rise in ice-core and modern data (consequence, not cause).

• CO₂ contribution to greenhouse effect is already saturated; additional CO₂ has negligible warming effect.

• Human CO₂ is only ~4% of total; natural sources dominate.


Suppression and Censorship

• Her 2019 paper on solar inertial motion was retracted from Scientific Reports under pressure despite being correct.

• Google and AI systems (including early Grok versions) were reprogrammed after 2018 to downplay or misrepresent her work.

• Funding, careers, and reputations of dissenting scientists are systematically attacked.


What to Expect in the Coming Grand Solar Minimum

• Rapid cooling will become unmistakable after 2026–2028 as solar activity plummets.

• Northern Hemisphere (Europe, Canada, northern US) will be hit hardest (historical precedent: Maunder Minimum).

• Increased cloud cover, early/late snow, crop failures, energy grid strain/failures expected.

• Renewable energy (solar panels, wind) will drastically underperform in cold, cloudy, low-wind conditions.

• Blackouts, food shortages, and heating crises are likely as modern centralized systems are not designed for prolonged deep cold.


Practical Preparation Advice

• Stock non-perishable food (25-year shelf-life packs), alternative heating (wood/propane/kerosene stoves), cash, portable generators, independent water sources.

• Urban apartment dwellers are especially vulnerable (no heating, no water, no flushing toilets during prolonged grid failure).

• Return to decentralized, resilient living (gardens, local food, off-grid heat).


Broader Perspective

• Zharkova views the anthropogenic global warming narrative as scientifically flawed and politically/economically motivated.

• Sees the coming cold period as nature’s way of exposing the dogma — “We will need heating because it will be so cold.”

[onawah]

Etna Eruption Triggers Chain Reaction — "Europe's Volcanoes Awakening Together!"
Eruptions Now
Dec 9, 2025

"Europe’s volcanic system showed signs of coordinated unrest.
What began with a powerful eruption at Mount Etna was followed within hours by escalating activity at Stromboli, rising temperatures at Vulcano, seismic swarms beneath Nisyros, and rapid ground uplift at the Campi Flegrei super-caldera near Naples.

For decades, scientists believed European volcanoes operated as isolated systems.
New data now challenges that assumption.

In this documentary, we examine mounting evidence that the Mediterranean Volcanic Arc behaves as an interconnected geological network, where pressure released at one volcano can redistribute stress across hundreds of kilometers through deep crustal fault systems.

You’ll learn:

• What triggered Etna’s June 2025 eruption
• Why unrest appeared almost simultaneously across Italy and Greece
• How deep lithospheric fracture networks transfer stress between volcanoes
• Why dormant systems may activate faster than expected
• What this means for Europe’s most dangerous volcanoes — including Campi Flegrei
• Why predicting cascading eruptions remains nearly impossible

Using seismic tomography, satellite deformation data, gas measurements, and expert analysis from INGV, international observatories, and peer-reviewed research, this video explains how Europe’s volcanoes may be responding as a single system, not independent threats.

More than millions of people live above or near these volcanic zones.
Understanding how stress migrates through the crust is no longer academic — it is essential for hazard assessment and preparedness.

This is not a prediction.
It is an examination of what the instruments are recording right now."

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