Does Assange’s relative silence about 9/11 prove he’s not to be trusted?

[Jax_realm]

If the assumption is correct that Julian Assange has been strangely silent about (the dozens) of 911 incongruencies, does that detract from his credibility? Why or why not?

[Soda]

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[Kryztian]

If the assumption is correct that Julian Assange has been strangely silent about (the dozens) of 911 incongruencies, does that detract from his credibility? Why or why not?

I think it might just prove that there are no documents about 911 in the Wikileaks database. How can we expect Wikileaks to have documents on this matter when we don't even know where this was planned or who planned it.

Not sure why he should be expected to speak out on 911 when there is so much other incriminating evidence against the Powers That Be that are well document. If we are looking at documents, which is what Wikileaks deals in, then there is a wealth of criminal activity that is demonstrated there that we need to talk about more.

[Intranuclear]

Any such conspiracy would only leave a complicated web of money trails which ultimately would be used to implicate only the front-men, who are likely dead or disappeared or identities changed.
I mean, ask yourself, if you wanted to commit such a huge crime, how would you do it?
I can't imagine it was done by amateurs, but rather by powerful men who must have had much experience in pulling off such things.
Simply looking at wars in history, one can see how complicated their causes were. Even now, people are still only putting together some of the suspicions to paper, even where there were literally tons and tons of documents and witnesses.
It only takes silencing some key people (by whatever means) and muddying/poisoning a few key documents.

People want hard answers from the crooks who are running the show.
Yeah, that will happen.

I don't mean we should stop looking, but it will take time. The problem is most of the conspirators will either be dead or people would have moved on to another false flag. Isn't that what these orchestraters do whenever someone gets close?

Looking at crime statistics, one can see that a significant percentage of murders are never really solved. Even when seemingly solved, many end up showing that only a patsy was imprisoned.

Even the Kennedy case is still open right? (depending who you ask)

[A Voice from the Mountains]

FWIW a list of some of the file names supposedly in the insurance archives was circulated a couple of years ago, and it indicated that there were 9/11-related files in it. So maybe it's in his insurance files, that was to be triggered by the dead man's switch. Or maybe all of that was totally fake. Either way, he has to keep something up his sleeve as leverage, or else an insurance file wouldn't be possible.

And even though everything he's published seems to be legitimate information, if he jumped way off the deep end straight into Alex Jones territory, he'd blow up his credibility whether the dumps were accurate or not. There is only so much the general public can handle having their beliefs systems stretched. Abuses in Iraq? That can quickly fit into most people's understanding of reality. Podesta's emails talking about child trafficking and blood rituals? That one didn't take, because people couldn't handle it, and MSM was able deflect from it.

And it is also 100% possible to cause actual psychological breakdowns in people by forcing incomprehensible information on them that they instinctually try to reject. People are already uncomfortable with ideas that they simply disagree with, let alone ideas that totally negate their entire worldview. Even if ETs are real and visiting Earth, that's one of the things that would cause literal mental breakdowns in some people if a bunch of government and military people came out with that info one day. Either they couldn't trust their government/society anymore, or they'd have to believe in ETs visiting Earth, and they couldn't handle either possibility so they'd just have a mental breakdown. That's just one example.

[Did You See Them]

I doubt very much if 911 was an inside job they would be foolish enough to leave a paper trail in the first place - but then again who knows ?

[norman]

. . Not sure why he should be expected to speak out on 911 when there is so much other incriminating evidence against the Powers That Be . . .



The powers that be have to be defined very specifically, and also the public perception of those specifics, because there are powers that stand for nationhood etc and there are powers that stand for global bankster tyrannical 'new order'.

If we look at the whole planet as a brownfield development site ( as I'm sure the globalists do actually see it ), we can foresee the stages of how the 'developers' will go about creating their wonderful 'development'.

The first stage is a plan, of course. The next stages are all about buying out the people who are in the way, and the commissioning of demolition subcontractors to smash up the old and haul it away in trucks, or perhaps in some cases, use the rubble as hardcore footings for the new.

It's really not very hard to see the early wikileaks track record as being that of a demolition subcontractor.

[DaveToo]

I doubt very much if 911 was an inside job they would be foolish enough to leave a paper trail in the first place - but then again who knows ?

"if 911 was an inside job" Why use the word "if"?

[DaveToo]

If the assumption is correct that Julian Assange has been strangely silent about (the dozens) of 911 incongruencies, does that detract from his credibility? Why or why not?

Yes I believe it detracts from his credibility, because a man of his intellect will surely have studied the events of 9/11 and discovered it was a false flag event.

[Praxis]

NO


EDIT

In thinking about it, ask this question:

Does Trump's absolute inaction and silence about 9-11 prove he is not to be trusted?

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Does Trump's absolute inaction and silence about 9-11 prove he is not to be trusted?

You might want to qualify that after you watch this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRC2_o6K7nA

[Nasu]

I'm sure if we looked hard enough we would find that he hasn't publicly commented on a great many other strange symptoms of our times, 911 being but one example. Let's not judge him on what he hasn't said or made comment on, but rather on the dire topics that he has chosen to discuss and reveal to us the great unwashed, through his site and network.

As a news source they have NEVER once published a false report, quite a high bar journalisticly for them to maintain, can that be said of ANY other news source?...x... N

[Jax_realm]

NO


EDIT

In thinking about it, ask this question:

Does Trump's absolute inaction and silence about 9-11 prove he is not to be trusted?

Funny you ask, yes, that and the Patriot Act unaddressed among a number of other things lends to me distrusting that the common man’s constitutional liberties are his top priorities. If they are he has yet to make that apparent. Why you bring him up?

[Jax_realm]

Ive seen that before. Seems to me like someone bigger then him shut him up as he has made subsequent statements contradicting these. It’s too bad



Does Trump's absolute inaction and silence about 9-11 prove he is not to be trusted?

You might want to qualify that after you watch this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRC2_o6K7nA

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Ive seen that before. Seems to me like someone bigger then him shut him up as he has made subsequent statements contradicting these. It’s too bad

Yes, I think word got to him fairly quickly to keep his mouth shut (he started talking about how great of a friend Larry Silverstein is, in a very conspicuous way, which sounds like mob talk to me -- "Oh yeah he's a great friend"), but Trump always brings up that he lost a lot of friends in the WTC buildings on 9/11, and he holds grudges for a long time. He was also asked about investigating 9/11 on the campaign trail and he dodged the question. Hmmmmm.

I think he has something up his sleeve, but all things around Trump are extremely polarized, so he has to direct that polarization carefully, and he does a good job at that. Decades of multi-million dollar marketing experience no doubt comes into play with that. If he says 9/11 is an inside job, then it instantly becomes a Trump-polarized issue. If we really want 9/11 truth then we don't want that. We want a bipartisan and non-political investigation. So it's not as simple as people just frankly speaking what's on their mind. Politics is like that.

There is at least one court case regarding 9/11 that is making its way through the courts right now, but I think it will ultimately require military tribunals to really dig out the real culprits, who are going to involve an international network with the intelligence agencies. Americans, Brits, Germans, Saudis, Israelis, Pakistanis, and Afghanis were all involved, and probably others on top of that. But there's already a paper trail and/or other evidence in public domain linking all of those countries to what happened on 9/11. The hijackers themselves were Saudi nationals, some of whom spoke Hebrew if I remember correctly, brought first to Germany and then sent to the US. The CIA was wiring money to Afghanistan via the Pakistani ISI. That's public record too. There's plenty already out there just waiting to be acted on. They never thought they'd lose control of the justice system, I guess.

[Bill Ryan]

Mod note from Bill:

Folks, I just moved a bunch of posts discussing what may or may not have happened on 9/11, to this existing thread:


No Planes? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89340-No-Planes)

This particular thread is about Julian Assange's position re 9/11, and should really be separate. THX. :thumbsup:

[HaveBlue]

Maybe Assange has not been sent anything on 911 by credible first hand people. Wikileaks has gone over 10,000 other documents/pages of material that would have kept him and others focussed on that.

Wikileaks is known for being 100% correct in over 12 years on everything it does put out.

While it was disappointing to see Assange give a passing comment in favour of the official story, at the time I thought if only he actually looked into 911 he would change his mind. It was quite some years ago he said this.

But if he had no cables, email chains or gun camera videos like he does with everything else WL has covered, he does not know and should just say 'I have not been contacted with regards to that matter'.

Nobody's perfect , even with 100% record it shows you can't do it all! You just do a very good job on what you have focused on.

Assange is not about 911 or any story in particular. He is about Freedom of the press to print what he can prove is true. Wikileaks would not exist if the MSM was actually doing their job.

I trust Julian Assange.

[Star Tsar]

RichPlanet.net

Fake, Five Star Fugitive

Published 1st July 2019

Mr Hall asserts that Mr Assange is infact a US intelligence asset & Delves into the smutty details of what happened in Sweden.

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[Dennis Leahy]

RichPlanet.net

Fake, Five Star Fugitive

Published 1st July 2019

Mr Hall asserts that Mr Assange is infact a US intelligence asset & Delves into the smutty details of what happened in Sweden.

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I know I've seen this guy before, is this pretty typical from him?

Anyone who believes that the Global Ruling class and spooks are actually in control of Wikileaks output hasn't spent much time looking at Wikileaks output. All due respect, Star Tsar - this guy is a disinfo agent (whether inadvertently, due to stupidity, or paid.)

[Franny]

He does manage to leave out quite a lot of pertinent and pretty well documented information that would indicate JA is not a US asset.

[Star Tsar]

Dearest Dennis & Franny,

Richard suggests that episodes 240 & 247 of his show be viewed for context. He has been posted to the forum before & I have found some of his past work to be impeccable. Please also note the question mark post icon on my op.

Episode 240

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Episode 247 (which is an update to 240)

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[TomKat]

Here's some info on Assange's strange mk-ultra childhood that used to be in Wikipedia a decade or so ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3n55b1/wikileaks_julian_assange_was_raised_in_an_lsd/

[waree]

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/julian-assange-we-just-kept-moving-2359423.html

His step father is Leif Meynell. According to the link above he was part of "The Family" cult. If this is true, it is very very strange...
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The Family was founded by a woman called Anne Hamilton-Byrne in the mid-1960s. It started in the mountains north of Melbourne, where they meditated, had meetings and sessions where they used LSD. The basic notion was that Anne happened to be a reincarnation of Jesus Christ, but with elements of Eastern philosophy thrown in, such that her followers beheld a karmic deity obsessed with cleansing their souls. Anne prophesied the end of the world, arguing, quite comically, though not to her, that only the people in the Dandenong Ranges of mountains east of Melbourne would survive.

Leif Meynell was part of that cult. And everything he did relating to us was informed by his association with The Family. It was so tiring. Just moving all the time. Being on the run. The very last time, we got some intelligence that Leif was drawing close; they told us he was near us in the hills outside Melbourne. My brother and I showed a lot of resistance that final time: we just couldn't bear the idea of grabbing our things again and dashing for the door. As a bribe, my mother and I told my little brother he could take his prized rooster, a Rhode Island Red, a very tall, proud, strong-looking bird, and also an extremely loud one. To match that, I insisted on taking my two-storey beehive. Picture the scene: a by-now hysterical mother and her two children, along with the pride of their menagerie, stuffed into a regular station wagon and heading up the dirt track. On the run, we learnt a little bushcraft. We learnt how to get by on very little money and not enough normality. Being unsettled was our normality and we became good at it.
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[TomKat]

The basic notion was that Anne happened to be a reincarnation of Jesus Christ

I heard on youtube somewhere that she used to give the kids LSD. Then she would turn off the lights and stand in the doorway with someone behind her holding a dry ice bucket putting off vapors, and the kids would think she was Jesus.