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Wade Frazier
16th September 2012, 16:34
Hi:

As I have written, the control of fire was both the first social act that separated humans from all other animals, and may have led to the appearance of humans.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

Controlling fire was also the most significant energy innovation ever, at least until we master FE. :) Burning wood was a huge boon to humanity, and a catastrophe for ecosystems. Wood also had another quality that made it such an epochal substance: it floated on water. Humans had to have made boats to migrate to Australia probably more than 50,000 years ago, which precipitated the first human-caused mass-extinction event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

The earliest boats were certainly dugout canoes. Moving people and goods by boat over water is vastly more energy efficient than carrying it overland. The earliest boats were powered by human muscles. But between five and six thousand years ago, in China and Egypt, the first tool to exploit non-photosynthetic energy was invented: the sailing ship:

http://sailing.info4uabout.com/2009/09/history-of-sailboat-earliest-sailing.html

http://www.airshow.com.cn/en/zhuhai/ZhuhaiNews/2006-09-12/10898.html

Wind is created by uneven heating of the atmosphere by the sun. Solar energy is what powers Earth’s weather systems, including precipitation and the wind. By inventing the sailing boat, humans for the first time harnessed energy that did not first flow through life forms. It became a huge energy boost. Transporting goods by boat took about 1% of the energy that it did to haul overland. None of the early civilizations would have been possible without the energy savings that boat traffic provided. All of them were situated on navigable waterways, with very few partial exceptions, such as Mecca and Jerusalem, and Mecca began its rise as a trading center for elite goods when the sea routes became too dangerous because of piracy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca#History

That situation lasted all the way to the Industrial Revolution.

After thousands of years of sailboats, wind was then harnessed to drive machines. The Ancient Greeks experimented with machines. The first practical windmills were used to pump water or move a mill wheel to grind grain. Wind power slowly replaced muscle power, where it was practical. The ancient Greeks also invented the first machines that took advantage of water power:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel#Greco-Roman_world

which began to have great impact all over the Old World:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermill#Western_world

except for south of the Sahara.

Wheeled vehicles were invented around the same time as the sailboat:

http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/The_wheel#History

Wheels were also a great energy innovation, greatly reducing friction, but without draft animals to pull them, wheeled vehicles did not make much sense. Some Mesoamerican cultures had wheels in children’s toys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wheel#History

but the wheel was never put into practical use in the Pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere, likely because they did not have draft animals of note. Llamas were mountain animals, and the Incan roads were designed for Llama traffic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_road_system#Main_routes

Boats, sails, wheels, beasts of burden, crops, mills – those were all innovations that increased the energy available to civilization. Metal smelting was an energy intensive activity which wiped out forests, but the benefits to civilization and humanity’s ability to wrench even more energy from the environment, and develop energy efficient technologies (such as making lumber, metal plows), were immense. All of those innovations over the millennia reached the stage where the medieval farmer was a thousand times as energy efficient as a Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherer was, as far as wrenching energy from the land, which meant that the land could host a thousand times as many people:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=547555&viewfull=1#post547555

That is the key dynamic of the pre-industrial early days of the human journey, with everything else of minor importance. All culture, religion, politics, and social activity was subservient to the energy dynamic. As Malthus would later note:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe

populations expanded right at the level of taking advantage of the higher energy levels, so that no pre-industrial culture ever had true energy security - they were always subject to famine. All pre-industrial cultures were at the mercy of the weather, mostly by how much water the solar-powered hydrological cycle delivered. Also, deforestation, erosion, soil nutrient depletion, and salination affected all Bronze Age and Iron Age cultures, which hastened their collapses many times. The desertification of much of the Mediterranean and periphery,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543474&viewfull=1#post543474

including the Fertile Crescent and going all the way over to Afghanistan, was a process that took thousands of years, and would have rarely been a noticeable trend in any person’s lifetime, or even the oral histories of the peoples. That was the inevitable outcome of humanity’s “civilized” practices. When Europe began conquering the world, the places and peoples that they plundered witnessed greatly accelerated processes, which turned formerly verdant regions into semi-deserts in a person’s lifetime. It quickly happened on the islands of the East Atlantic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#guanches

in what became Mexico:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#_edn83

and it happened with the British invasion of Australia. Ancient Rome had one of the most dramatic instances of deforestation and desertification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_during_the_Roman_period

The entire periphery of the Mediterranean was scoured for wood, continuing an ancient trend. The Classic Greeks were writing about how Greek deforestation and erosion had devastated the land. In 560 BC, a bounty was given to Greek farmers to plant olive trees, which was the only crop that could survive on land that had been eroded to the bedrock:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#olive

Whales became extinct in the Mediterranean during the Roman Empire era:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

Whales were another energy boon, for peoples with the technology to extract it. When Europeans developed the technology needed to sail the oceans, the whale holocaust began, which lasted for several centuries before whales were rendered nearly extinct.

The entire human journey to this time has been defined by finding ways to wring solar energy from our environment for human benefit, and the energy was almost always originally captured by photosynthesis. Our prodigious burning of fossil fuels is merely the latest phase of the effort, where we first worked our way through sunlight that was captured in the current growing season, to sunlight that was captured in the lifetimes of trees, and we are now mining the energy of sunlight that was captured many millions of years ago, and hundreds of millions of years ago in most instances.

I have a busy day ahead of me, so signing off for now. There is a lot more to come, as I work my way to the rise of Europe.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th September 2012, 20:43
Hi:

As an addendum to my previous post…

The issue of ancient deforestation and desertification is a hot topic today. I see it as similar to the controversies over the megafaunal extinctions. I see a lot of the human ego in the controversies, which I suppose is to be expected. One point of my narrative that goes back to the beginnings of life on Earth is to show the dynamic nature of life on Earth, and life’s interaction with the physical systems. Microscopic life removed the iron from the oceans, oxygenated the atmosphere, and may have wiped out the oxygen-created ozone layer during events that created the Canfield Oceans.

When plants migrated to land, they were the pioneers of an invasion from the oceans, but that invasion greatly increased Earth’s biomass, especially the biomass that sustains that smart ape called homo sapiens. Plant roots stabilized riverbanks, leading to what we call rivers today. Tree tops created a boundary layer between the atmosphere and the ground that created the environment necessary for land-based life to thrive and evolve. Life made Earth friendlier to life, while there were periodic “revenge of the microbe” events that wiped out most life in the mass extinction events.

The rise of humans meant the ability to alter Earth’s physical and ecological systems in ways that no other life form ever had. In one of the earliest writings known, the Epic of Gilgamesh, who was one of the early kings of Uruk, he declares war on the cedar forest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh#Tablet_two

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh#Tablet_five

killing the forest guardian and commencing to rape the cedars. The flood story from the Bible almost certainly derives from the Epic of Gilgamesh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh#Relationship_to_Bible

John Perlin wrote in his A Forest Journey:

“The writers of the Epic of Gilgamesh knew that once civilization gained access to the forests trees would be vulnerable. They also knew that droughts naturally follow deforestation, and so ended the tale, lamenting the soon-to-be-sorry state of Mesopotamia, as well as the many other civilizations bent on destroying their forests. Thus, the epic transcends time, foreshadowing events to come. Gilgamesh’s war against the forests has been repeated for generations in every corner of the globe in order to supply building and fuel stocks needed for each civilization’s continued material growth.”

Perlin then recounted the deforestation orgy that succeeded Gilgamesh’s time, more than four thousand years ago, as the Mesopotamian city-states built their civilizations. Lagash, Uruk, Ur and others lavishly deforested the region,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagash

and even imported wood from Turkey, the Arabian Peninsula and India, and the region's powers had wars over who could control and plunder the swifly declining forests, and controlling the "log lanes" of the Tigris, Euphrates, and Karun rivers was of paramount importance. All of that upland deforestation began to salinate the fields of Mesopotamia. That led to the decline and abandonment of all of those lower Mesopotamian cities. Wheat cultivation was abandoned for the more salt resistant barley, and the process kept moving northward, and southern cities declined and were eventually abandoned, and today are in deserts. The mountains that supplied Akkad were named for the useful trees on each mountain. The siltation from the upland deforestation was obvious to the rulers of the day, and in the Third Dynasy of Ur, dredging the silt from the fast-filling canals and harbors was a high priority. The siltation from that “progress” rendered the first city, Eridu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

originally a seashore community near the mouth of the Euphrates on the Persian Gulf, a deserted ruin (where scholars think that the Tower of Babel may have been built). Eridu today is nearly a hundred miles from the Persian Gulf (Ur was also once on the Persian Gulf, but is about 150 miles inland now). In the Near East, many settlements and cities that were founded on coastlines are far inland, from all of that upland deforestation and resultant siltation. Pella was a seaside community in Ancient Greece:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella

that now sits about thirty miles from the Mediterranean. The ancient city of Troy was discovered under about thirty feet of silt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy

All over that part of the world the dynamic was repeated. I clearly recall my 1974 tour of the Greek isles, and seeing many isles that were barren rock. They weren’t always that way. That deforestation and siltation also had climactic effects, although their extent can be debated, but ancient cities that are in deserts and semi-deserts today, where we can read contemporary accounts of the robust deforestation and gradual environmental demise, should give every person who graduated from the Rush Limbaugh School of Environmentalism reason to pause.

We are living with the stark reminders of how ancient and recent civilizations destroyed themselves, and the means to do it today are greater than they were before. My grandparents were driven from their home by a human-created environmental catastrophe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

that happened only a few generations after the whites invaded. We are on the brink of scenarios that make those disasters look like gentle warm-ups. FE can make all of those looming threats disappear almost overnight, and it is truly surreal to see how almost everybody who hears of FE denies it, and the most vociferous deniers are those who say that they are trying to avoid the meltdown:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

with environmentalists literally treating FE as the enemy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

All of my fellow travelers found that out the hard way, and it was hard to believe at first, but it is all too true, I am sorry to say.

Time to go to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th September 2012, 05:21
Hi:

Briefly, before I go to bed, a post on some Americana. There has never been a working class press in the USA, as Britain once had. There is very little “left” in the USA, but the so-called left in the USA is largely a bunch of imperialists who pretend they are left, as they defend gay and abortion rights, while millions die under the imperial boot. Ed Herman called them the Cruise Missile Left (“CML”):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/links.htm#herman

The CML cheered the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, invoking all manner of disgusting and false rationale. There was virtually no principled stand to be found in the American media in leading up to the invasions.

Uncle Noam has been laying it bare for many years:

http://www.fpif.org/articles/chomsky_on_world_ownership

but it is hard to find him in the American press. The documentary on his life, Manufacturing Consent, is the most popular documentary in Canadian history, and it has yet to play on an American TV station.

I bring this up because this week I read some investigative journalism pieces in Rolling Stone. Damn, it is a music magazine, but it is one of the few publications in the USA that even pretends to do investigative journalism. They did a couple of pieces on Mitt Romney and his corporate raider days, as he tries to become a raider of the public’s money in his run for the White House.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829?link=mostpopular1

and there are the standard, lame capitalist responses:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/what-s-fact-and-what-s-opinion-in-the-discussion-about-bain-and-mitt-romney-20120905

Tiabbi’s article is timely, but just shows the business as usual nature of the Republican Party. It is either religious fanatics or rapacious capitalists, with the paleoconservatives nowhere in sight, except for the sporadic Ron Paul sighting.

The other investigative article was on the “Cleveland Five,”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-05-01/news/chi-120501cleveland-bridge-bomb-plot_1_fbi-informant-plot-fbi-s-cleveland

and how the FBI is manufacturing “terrorists.” I saw provocateurs effortlessly manipulate genius technical professionals with transparently dishonest plays:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

during my days with Dennis, and those Occupy Cleveland “anarchists” were like lambs to the slaughter, and their stupidity got to tar the Occupy movement. I encountered those anarchist adolescents during my marching days, and they are the weak links that are exploited by FBI entrapment operations, etc. That is why I am staying far clear of all “all comers” efforts in my work. The Occupy movement draws a big bulls-eye on its forehead, and there will always be plenty of the deluded who will sign on and become the weak links where it can be torn down.

But the sorry state of the American media is that if you want to read any investigative journalism, you are reduced to reading music magazines, or if anybody calls out people like Mitt Romney, it ends up being comedians like Jon Stewart. No criticism of note or worth comes from the places that it should. Just a sign of the times, and what grim times they are.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
17th September 2012, 07:55
Wade,

Cheer up :) It is not so dark out there. It is true msm is complicit of perpetuating outright lies to manipulate people. But despite this and thanks to the internet creating a state of global consciousness the truth slowly leaks into the msm reality. When i chat with my peers in Poland and say something "weird" seldom i receive a telling silence or someone tapping his forehead. They even encurage me to tell more or tell "weird" things themselves. I don't know if it is law of attraction that bring likeminded people into my path or sign of the times changing. But it amazes me every day :)

Wade Frazier
17th September 2012, 15:01
Hi Robert:

Outside of the empire’s orbit, I am sure that the “crazy” stuff is not as “out there,” but here in the heart of the empire, it is a different story. Not long ago, somebody made a statement in a social setting at work where they said that they knew about my public work, and that it was fascinating. Well, all of those who heard that little speech kind of non-reacted, and I have not talked with any of them about it since, and nobody wants to. Some close to me at my work know a little about it, but it is not something that I talk about at work, except for an incident over this summer, where I was approached at a social function by somebody who worked at the same company with me for nearly ten years, and he introduced himself and then almost immediately began to talk politics with me. Retail politics in the USA is largely just parroting the propaganda, and I listened for a minute, and then just told him a little about my experiences. No theory, no rumors, but just the facts of what I have lived through and those in my circle. After a few minutes, he said that if anything I was saying was true, then America was full of naïve chumps. I did not respond to that, but just kept stating a few more facts. The guy then made an excuse, hurriedly left, and has actively avoided me ever since. I had not done that in many years, but was doing a little testing of the waters. Not much has changed over the years on that score. :(

I have a long week ahead of me, will be gone the next week, and then have a long six weeks after that, so my progress on this human journey thread will be slow. However, this has been a great exercise for me. I have never done this before, where I sketch out an essay before I write it. Writing this is showing me where I need to do a little more work, is giving me new ideas, and when I finish this series of posts, it will be the outline for my upcoming essay, and I can tell that it will be a book-length essay.

I hope that readers of this sketch will think about the subject matter. I not only find it all fascinating, but there is a purpose to it. If people do the work, they will begin to develop a comprehensive perspective of the journey of life on Earth, and particularly the human journey, the central importance of energy, and the mind-boggling potential of free energy will become embedded in their awareness to such a degree that they will never stop thinking about it. That is the entire purpose of what I am doing here. If enough people can develop that energy-centric, comprehensive awareness, and can keep their eye on the ball, then that choir will be on its way to forming. But, at the root we need to have a loving awareness. If people are not approaching the situation from a full heart, they can easily end up like the Cleveland Five and friends:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-05-01/news/chi-120501cleveland-bridge-bomb-plot_1_fbi-informant-plot-fbi-s-cleveland

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515?link=mostpopular2

Godzilla and his minions make the FBI, CIA, NSA and others look like children. The provocateurs and establishment goons that I encountered were usually good at what they did; they were true professionals. People thinking and acting like victims are the weak links in efforts like this one that I am trying to launch, and they will be exploited when the time is right. That is why conspiracists and structuralists do have not have the right stuff to pursue this, because they obsess about the bad ol’ elites, when they are merely a symptom, not a cause:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

That is thinking like a victim. As I have repeatedly stated, not many are going to be able to take this walk, but it won’t take many, either. Looking for those needles…

OK, back to the human journey. As you can tell, I am not discussing sub-Saharan Africa, China, Southeast Asia, Australia, or the New World much. I have, here and there, but as far as energy and the human journey goes, the “progress” really began in the Fertile Crescent, and while China led the way at times in its technological prowess, it was not really much of a different story than what we had in the Middle and Near East, and that great rise to world domination that was centered in Western Europe. That is the trail of how today’s industrial world came to be, and how I ended up living in Seattle.

The Chinese story, or the Australian story, or the story of Bantu expansion in Africa, or how maize spread from New England to Chile, are all worthy tales, but from an energetic perspective, they were all variations on a theme. There really weren’t too many significant variations on the themes of pre-industrial peoples, or Stone Age peoples. If they were hunter-gatherers, they had similar social organization, similar subsistence technologies and techniques. They all fought each other with their hunting implements, and males did the hunting while women gathered if possible and tended the hearth while raising the children. Because of how humans are built and wired, there really is not much variation when humans are in similar economic dynamics, which, as always, is rooted in the available energy.

If people domesticated plants and animals, a different social organization developed, and valuable possessions made their appearance, and stored food was the most important. Men fought and plotted their way to the top of the new hierarchies, founded or corrupted religions that made themselves divine representatives of the cosmos, and they all had their harems. When people began to smelt metals, their ability to alter the land grew by an order of magnitude, as felling trees and tearing the Earth, partly to grow crops better, became easier. With smelting metals and the ability to wrest more energy from the earth increased, civilizations could expand, and imperial dynamics appeared where the economies allowed it. But such activities always carried the seeds of their own destruction, because such activities wrecked the ecosystems and the soils. All smelting civilizations eventually wrecked their means of subsistence, and the civilizations collapsed. The lands recovered in the wake of the collapse, but they were damaged, as soils washed to the sea, the complex of life forms was altered, and such activities led to desertification often enough.

The only exceptions to that dynamic are some Stone Age cultures, but they virtually all had the dubious distinction of being descended from peoples who exterminated the big animals. But the way that the Amazonian peoples terraformed thousands of square miles of land and created super-soils, and turned the Amazon into a big garden, or how the Plains Indians kept the plains burned so they would support hunt-able animals, or how the Eastern Woodlands peoples performed similar maintenance to encourage hunting, is worth studying, and there are lessons to be learned there. I will allow that the peoples of the New World seemed more spiritually advanced than those who invaded them, but how much of that was due to the political-economy of Stone Age peoples? Women’s status universally declined with the advent of urban civilization, and that was also evident with the Aztec and Incan civilizations, as well as their predecessor civilizations. So, while the Iroquois had a balance of power between the sexes that the West is still trying to achieve, how much of that was due to the political-economy of village life in the Stone Age? I think that it had plenty to do with it.

So, while there are lessons to be learned from the so-called primitive peoples, the fact is that today’s increasingly-global civilization is defined by its energy usage:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=546922&viewfull=1#post546922

as it always has been. If we go back to pre-industrial civilization, or hunter-gatherer, we have several billion excess people that we need to get rid of, as Heinberg and friends state:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

The small-ball “solutions” that I see Heinberg and environmentalists put forth, such as windmills, are ludicrous in the face of FE. Believe me, even if windmills and direct solar could somehow prevent the need for several billion people to meet their makers before long, you do not want to live in that world. I see the mentalities of the Heinbergs, environmentalists, and assorted neo-Malthusians as being addicted to scarcity. You really have to see how deeply they have their heads buried into the sand on the FE issue to understand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

At its root, they live in fear, and they don’t want to even imagine that abundance is possible. Is that due to memories of melting down Atlantis? I can’t say, but I do know that with FE can come something that looks a lot like heaven on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

I have encountered people who have visited realities like this one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

people who were highly accomplished psychonauts, and I have no doubt that they were visiting real places, and places where humanity can go, if enough of us we can get our hearts whole and align our heads with it. That is no easy feat, not in a world of scarcity and fear. But everybody who is reading this is a beneficiary of the energy levels that powered the Industrial Revolution, and for some of us, we can get glimpses of what abundance can look like. Because of my adventures and the experience of those close to me, I know that FE technology has been around for a long time, as well as antigravity and other mind-boggling technologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

But Godzilla sits on his Golden Hoard, and we do not get any, not while we live in fear, with our minds trapped by our scarcity-based conditioning. I am looking for the tiny fraction of humanity that can wake up to these realities before somebody delivers FE to their homes. I know that there are not many of them, but I keep looking. I found a few at Avalon, and I will seek more in the future, and we will see how it goes.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Chris Gilbert
17th September 2012, 17:32
In a world of scarcity, however, something that scarce became the focus of more obsessions over the millennia than for any other substances. Just yesterday, I was watching an economic debate:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/schiff-vs-insana-matter-vs-anti-matter

where gold was called real money, as opposed to paper money. Money is only accounting, not reality. Unless the money has value other than accounting use, it is merely a symbol, with no intrinsic value. Even today, the industrial uses of gold and silver are not major. Two-thirds of silver production today (which is an infinitesimal fraction of metal mining) goes into industrial use, but only about 10% of gold production makes its way into industry, primarily in electronics. The pharaohs did not have electronics. :)

The gold situation is one of earliest examples of ideology trumping reality. Gold and silver were worthless metals, but people killed each other over them, millions were worked to death mining them, and even today, they hold an exalted status, even called the only “real” money. They are as real as paper is. About the only difference is that paper is easier to produce. Any discussion of real economics must dismiss “precious” metals as of very minor economic importance, whose value is chiefly due to how rare they are, not how useful they are. But in almost every “economic” discussion I have ever seen, the focus is on money, which is merely a symbol of reality, not the real thing.

Gold and silver formed the early basis for what is known as the financial economy, where a layer of abstraction was laid over the real economy. And if people would accept the symbol as reality, then the manipulation of the symbol could manipulate reality, at least in the minds of the deceived. The abstraction of reality has reached new levels in the modern economy, where money is no longer based on something as useless but rare as “precious” metals, but on slick accounting games, where the manipulators can virtually make it up as they go.

The reason why everybody focuses on the symbol of the economy and not the economy itself is because money is how we eat, put roofs over our heads, and buy our energy. But that only has a microeconomic meaning, and really does not mean much in the big picture. Economists have also lost sight of the real economy, homogenizing everything with market prices and producing their misleading analyses, one of which I recently presented:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=552107&viewfull=1#post552107

Physical scientists often call economics a wannabee science. If you ever read technical economic literature, it is all advanced math, and it is almost completely divorced from reality. Almost no prominent economists could see the crash of 2008-2009 coming, but it was easy to see for those with their eyes open.


Best,

Wade

The "gold and silver is REAL money" belief is one I adopted back when I listened more to Libertarian/Austrian Economist arguments, and eventually discarded.

A system of "100% free market hard money banking" as many Austrian Economists argue for has never existed in reality, and thus has no realistic positive examples to base massive country wide policy changes on. In addition, the actual interest bearing gold standards that HAVE existed throughout history went through many periods of depressions and recessions, and thus aren't nearly as stable as the goldbug types portray them as.

In the long run money is a chain no matter what form it appears in, but I do believe it would be better on a temporary, transitional basis if the authority to print money in the US was returned directly to Congress and made fully transparent, thus allowing for more voter oversight. In addition, usury should be fully abolished. The money could then be backed by the actual available labor, resources and potential for scientific innovation, thus allowing for the issuance of debt-free/interest-free money to fund much needed infrastructure changes without causing immediate inflation.

Obviously it's not a perfect fix, and doesn't directly address FE, but given that the international banking system is one of Godzilla's major control mechanisms, it could certainly help move things along.

ThePythonicCow
17th September 2012, 20:10
t would be better on a temporary, transitional basis if the authority to print money in the US was returned directly to Congress and made fully transparent,
For that to work, it would require that Congress was transparent. It's not.

I suspect that the problem is not so much that the power to print money is in the banksters hands instead of the governments hands, but rather that both the banksters and the government are in the hands of less obvious powers, aka Godzilla. The scandalous mismanagement of our economic, financial and monetary systems that we observe is just one symptom of this grand theft of life, humanity and civilization on this planet.

Both the debt based currency and scarcity based energy policy imposed on us are manifestations of this theft. Healing the planet, our civilization, our monetary system, and our energy economics and physics are all entwined with removing the grip that Godzilla has on us.

Realizing the possibilities if energy were no longer controlled and scarce, as Wade is doing, is one key element of this. One climbs mountains by first looking up, seeing the peak through the clouds, and then setting forth, step by step, to reach that peak.

Melinda
18th September 2012, 01:44
...If people do the work, they will begin to develop a comprehensive perspective of the journey of life on Earth, and particularly the human journey, the central importance of energy, and the mind-boggling potential of free energy will become embedded in their awareness to such a degree that they will never stop thinking about it...

What you said there Wade, really struck a chord. I can't remember exactly when I started thinking about free-energy but I know that Brian O'Leary's Camelot interview in 2009 was a great inspiration. Like so many of us here, I haven't been able to stop thinking about free-energy for the longest-time. It's as if it isn't merely food for thought, but the thought of it is food in itself. Food for the soul. Free energy thoughts are nourishing thoughts, generating their own kind of light, filled with solutions, like seeds of light for a fundamentally more beautiful shared experience.

I am not really sure if I get it. Sometimes I have this feeling, of what it feels like to spark the most effective kind of flame; one that shines in resonance with all those others lit within people's hearts and minds around the globe. An emanation infused with all the hopes and fears, frustrations and cures within the free-energy domain, brought together and transformed into one flame, one energetic imprint that pulses in the space of a moment, as if it contains the whole of our history and the visions of our most luminous future. A creative flame that already knows how it feels for our problems to be solved by new energy solutions, and can grasp the compassionate feeling of relief that comes with them. I have moments where I feel this. Moments that feel timeless. I'm very grateful for them.

Reading Brian O'Leary's The Energy Solution Revolution, I was really struck by the passion, vision and hard-earned experience that permeate the text. A beautiful mission statement; a genuinely heart-felt invitation for others to join this new group, growing ourselves into solution seekers and emboldened torch-bearers. A brave advocate of harmony and a holistic thinker. There is an ocean of important writing out there (including your website Wade), and my read-speed is the equivalent of a small, hand-carved canoe. When I first bought the book it sat on my desk, being saved up, like a physical souvenir of the experience of hearing O 'Leary in interviews. But on eventually reading it, I felt like I was truly privileged to be in the company of his brightest dream.

The many free-energy advocate 'groups' in the world, and the way in which they intersect and sometimes clash, feel to me like a macrocosmic reflection of one fragmented human mind, struggling to balance its inner contradictions and integrate all the parts of itself that jostle for dominance. As O'Leary elaborates on (see below) this process of integration is key to moving forward both in our own worlds and as a collective. Mainstream culture seems rife with examples of how we fragment ourselves, pitting spirituality against science, science against art, political left against right etc. Advertising and Marketing seem to fragment aspects of our personality in order to create a singular essence that speaks strongly enough to one part of us in the hope that part will doubt itself, and quiver in need of bolstering when isolated before our gaze. It reminds me of something the artist Tori Amos said in an interview... "We're not taught to be whole. Why? I'll tell you why. We would be powerful, and they can't have us being powerful. You see I'm not defining they. It's not important who they is. They're nameless and they're faceless. But it's a force, it's an energy force, and I believe this." Like the age-old, 'Machiavellian' strategy of an invasive enemy: Divide and Conquer.

In The Energy Solution Revolution:
On pages 159-161 O' Leary describes 4 "cultures":
Truth-Seekers (AKA Conspiracy Theorists), Deep Ecologists (AKA Doomsayers), Consciousness-oriented 'generalists' (Spiritualists, New Scientists...), and Progressive Pragmatists.
The first lines on page 163 read:
"We need a greater blend of cultures that could lead to a higher degree of sentience to embrace free energy."
Then in the last paragraph he writes:
"It would seem that our next step might be to trust more the knowledge and wisdom of those of us who have toiled for decades on some of these larger questions, to listen more to those of us who have a long track record and motivation to share the rich expertise that can come from each culture, and to get beyond the frustration some of us may have felt at times about the duality between the fact that while we are equal as persons, some of us know more about some things than others. That would be the next step, I believe, and the foundation of trust is an important first step."

It's as if we must integrate all these "cultures" within, these aspects of ourselves (something I personally have to be mindful of daily) and then integrate the aspect or aspects we most represent as an individual with those other aspects most embodied by others. Easier said than done, but more than possible. We are, in so many ways, like the million scattered pieces of a broken mould. It's as if the Zero-Point field represents that fusion, that original unity we seek. Sometimes I think that perhaps in all our struggles to integrate the various parts of ourselves, the biggest secret is that the blueprint, the thought-form that expresses unity, is distractingly simple to grasp in a world filled with complication.

On Page 216, paragraph 2, O'Leary quotes a portion from his work Miracle in the Void, referring to the Zero-Point Field and articulating wonderfully the integration of the sentient mystical with the scientific approaches:
"When we begin to resonate with the majestic and ubiquitous reservoir of pre-energy and pre-matter in the zero-point field, we will all become healers, clairvoyants, and magicians. We can at last have peace, harmony, love and joy. Science is telling us that clearly, based on irrefutable experimental, theoretical and personal evidence. I invite you to trust the process and walk with me through the visible into the invisible."
[ There are some other interesting references to the mystical aspect of the ZPF in the GFC's 70% Plan, which was linked to on the thread by another member a while back, and which also mentions O 'Leary. I wandered through its text not long ago, but perhaps I'll save my ponderings on it for another post. ]


Post 2255, Wade Frazier: "...(I) was approached by somebody who worked at the same company... [portion missing] ...he said that if anything I was saying was true, then America was full of naïve chumps..."

In his 'Universal appeal to Mr.Obama' on page 239, paragraph 2, O' Leary writes:
"Do you truly know the depth of the crisis and the breadth of opportunities that lay outside the box of conventional thinking? I must admit that during my days of relative fame, I was largely oblivious of the deeper issues before us. The spotlight itself has a way of distorting our perceptions of reality."
This really struck a chord when I read this. How many times have I heard someone say, 'Well if Conspiracies/UFOs/Free-Energy were real how come the President/Prime Minister doesn't know about it?'
Aside from the (apparently) dozens of levels of Top Secret above the Presidential level of clearance, and the fact that government leaders are not happily poised to share all incoming gems of revelatory insider information with the general populace, it often doesn't occur to people that the very ambition and pressure to compromise that accompany a political career (more intensely the higher someone climbs) increasingly blind them to the obvious; to the ability to consider basic information without the ego distorting or censoring the simplest truths. The safeguarding of position/status, and the material rewards of power, money and recognition seem sadly to be a distraction for inventors (going by what I've read here) and politicians alike. It reminds me of something a Peruvian Medicine Woman once said: "You can accomplish anything, as long as you are willing to let others take credit for it." That one fills me with a warm laughter. Within its medicinal wisdom, all things seem possible. But its simple truth pushes against so many of the symbols and proofs of success we are programmed to function through. I believe though that it is a wonderful and humbling truth that flings open the doors of possibility. And it makes me think of certain free-energy casualties who were pure of heart, and persisted for all of us; paving the way for future solution-seekers, regardless of how thankless a task it seemed.

Another lengthy post. Thank you, to all of you here, for your understanding. It really means a lot to me to have somewhere to help process some of what I think and feel about this topic.

( P.S. The Peruvian Shaman was Dona Laura, quoted in Shaman, Healer, Sage by Alberto Villoldo Ph.D, Bantam Press, 2001, Pg.37)

mosquito
18th September 2012, 01:47
One climbs mountains by first looking up, seeing the peak through the clouds, and then setting forth, step by step, to reach that peak.

Yes Paul. And over the past 3 weeks, I've realized something, triggered by AWP's post on my abundance thread ....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49327---a-b-u-n-d-a-n-c-e--&p=547930&viewfull=1#post547930

and reinforced by Wade's recent writings. Namely that we, as a whole need to start doing something which we've long forgotten - to think beyond our own lifetimes. I have for a long time held my own private vision of heaven on Earth, and have slowly worked toward it, but looking at the mess we're in now, I can see that heaven on Earth for ALL is a vision that we need to start focussing on, with the full awareness that it probably won't materialize while any of us are here (judging by where we are now, the trajectory we're on, and the momentum we have). So that's what I do on a daily basis, envisage the world as a place of true abundance for everyone.

This has got me thinking .... Could collective focus be a force, not necessarily the only one, which drives evolution ? Do our genes mutate, not by chance, but by a collective will ? (There is evidence which is highly suggestive of this, pretty much in line with Sheldrake's theory of morphogenic fields.) Could our own aspirations for the future be the "intelligent design" we want to believe in but which science dismisses ? If so, then we truly are the creators of our future reality.

Thanks everyone.

WOW - There's a synchronicity, AWP posting at the same time as me !!!

Wade Frazier
18th September 2012, 03:38
Hi Enishi:

Thanks. Gold and silver, in the financial system framework, are just forms of accounting, and the reason they were used as money is because they are hard to counterfeit. :) But that just led to gold rushes (genocidal gold rushes, if you could enslave a conquered population to dig it for you) and conquering your neighbors to steal the gold they already mined. On a macroeconomic basis, the lust for gold is one of the most mindless motivations on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

I am an economics professional, and spent part of my professional life seeing through the game, and it is a dirty game, for sure. I tend to not focus on the money and banking system because it is only accounting, not reality. The problem is that money and banking represents the financial (AKA symbolic) economy, but it is the “economy” that everybody is familiar with, and the most infantile, mindless, and sickening behavior can come out when the money issue comes up (so it is, in a world of scarcity), which is partly why every FE effort I ever saw or was a part of was doomed. The financial economy is the tail, not the dog, and a focus on the dog will get the job done. If those so-called monetary activists devoted most of their time and energy to the real economy and real solutions, rather than trying to fix the accounting system (designing and running accounting systems is what I do for a living), I could get with their program, but the level of discussion that I see in alternative monetary discussions is pretty low, and it always attracts the egocentric and the scientifically-illiterate. Playing the money game is not really an answer. I am trying to get people focused on the answer, and stay away from the rabbit holes that so many disappear into. Yes, solutions that the Austrians advocate make some simplifying assumptions, let us say. :) The accounting system is definitely broken, but accounting systems are only important in a world of scarcity.

That aside, sure, the financial system should be transparent but it isn’t, and it is greatly manipulated, and not just by Godzilla. I liken the situation to a football game. They don’t really know how to play football, but they are great at rigging the scoreboard, and if people can be made to think that the scoreboard is the game, then the manipulators can always win. As with all other areas like this, it comes down to personal integrity. If what I am doing ever comes down to an exchange of money, it will be completely transparent; everybody will be able to see where the money comes from and where it goes. No secrecy, no anonymity. We have to be the change we want to see. That is why the conversation that I plan to eventually mount will not have anonymous participants. Everybody will have a real name and face. My work is about the real world and real people.

Almost every “economic” activist is trying to “fix” the symbolic economy, not the real one. Playing with symbols is easy. And even those who are trying to fix the real economy are proposing small-ball solutions or getting rid of six billion “excess” humans. I am trying to help fix the real economy, for all time, in a way that makes the symbolic economy meaningless and ends Godzilla’s reign, and he knows exactly what I am talking about, and he is listening, believe me (although probably with half an ear at best – I am down the “threat” scale a ways, I hope!). Fix the real economy, and the symbolic economy takes care of itself, but what may be the primary thrust of my work is helping people see through the illusions of their scarcity-based conditioning. Not many can do that. Not many even want to try, and instead prefer comforting fictions. I am looking for reality junkies. :)

Hi Paul:

I saw your post after writing the above, and we are singing the same song. Thanks for your astute perception. Yes, Congress is beholden to interests that have nothing to do with the public welfare, and Washington D.C. is anything but transparent. I try to ignore D.C. as much as I can. These issues are all related. I believe that some key banksters are in fact Godzilla’s minions, but it is likely that none of them are names we know, such as Bernanke, Geithner, Greenspan, etc. Those boys play their dirty games, but they are lower on the food chain than Godzilla and his minions are, and may not even aware of Godzilla’s existence themselves.

Best,

Wade

P.S. I’ll get to the other posts soon.

Wade Frazier
18th September 2012, 04:09
OK, I am getting to them sooner than I thought.

Hi AWP:

Thanks for quoting Brian. His insights were often great ones, won by his own long, strange journey. While writings his biographies, I had to meditate on his life regularly. Of the many fellow travelers that I have encountered over the years (there really aren’t that many of us, but to an individual, it adds up; as Brian said, the FE community is less than a thousand people on the planet, and it is anything but unified, but I am trying to reach beyond it), Brian’s life was a unique journey that brought him rich rewards, even if it shortened his life.

Yes, giving it away is the only prayer that an FE inventor has, but it has to be given to a worthy group if it is going to go anywhere, and that worthy group does not yet exist. My efforts can be seen as trying to help amass it.

You are being quite poetic in your posts, and that is a fine thing. Yes, the FE issue is really a central issue of learning to be creators, which is why I keep stressing operating from the heart, because that is where creators live from. I believe that love is what we are here to learn, and the FE conundrum will be resolved where the head (left and right halves), heart, and guts meet. The FE fellow travelers that I have the highest respect for are among the most courageous people I have yet met or heard of. In our world, just wanting to know the truth, and be willing to get out of the easy chair to go after it, is an act of great courage.

Hi Mariposafe.

Yes, none of us may live to see us turn the corner, and this situation is one that has been faithfully teaching me patience in this lifetime. It can seem a little crazy to help something along that may not bear fruit in our lifetimes, but the Iroquois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_generation_sustainability

and others thought that way. In a culture where people are devolving to the attention span of gnats, and everything hinges on how the quarter went in the corporate world, short-sightedness is “normal,” but the comprehensive view is also the long view, which is also part of the purpose of this thread theme of mine for the past few months.

On consciousness and evolution; it could be the case. I don’t know if our intent makes our DNA move around, but there are ways to consciously evolve as a species, and that may be around the corner, if we can turn the corner.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th September 2012, 14:21
Hi:

No names, but I have seen links to other threads on this one lately, and one is to one of the latest inventors trying to scale the ramparts, with demonstrations (that never happen), conferences, interviews. Boy, been there, done that. I am sympathetic to the people drawn to it by the spectacle and promise, but that entire path is a dead end, IMO, unless Godzilla and the other predators died in their sleep, which I doubt. When I see naïve inventors going that route, I shudder. Demos of working FE devices go clear back to Moray, at the minimum. Conferences, big talk, and so on – I have seen it all. My early days with Dennis, and our Greatest Energy Shows on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum

were some of my life’s happiest and most innocent, but we were shooting at Godzilla with a pea shooter. Even the big Philly show with Yull was a pipedream, even though we met with Al Gore at the White House right after the show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

Every American presidential administration since Reagan has known who Dennis was, usually quite well, but those are the minor leagues, way down the food chain from Godzilla. So, when I see another inventor with his big talk and his gizmo, I wonder what the heck he is thinking, and if he is thinking. If would-be FE inventors know anything about the field, they know that at least 50,000 with the goods have failed before them, usually in agony, if they survived the experience. If they have any inkling of reality and they keep on at it, why do they think they have the magic approach that will succeed when all the others failed? The only way that an inventor has a prayer is to give it away, have a battle tested army at his back (never seen one of those, especially one not riddled with traitors and provocateurs, looking for their opportunity), and have enough hitchless prototypes salted away, ready for demo all over the world, that it can’t be stopped. No inventor has ever come close to achieving that scenario. I am going close my eyes now and plug my ears…

Back to the human journey. Those early days of civilization in Mesopotamia, when writing was invented, when city-states warred, when slavery was normal,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer#Uruk_period

when deforestation was the name of the game, which wiped out civilizations via siltation and salination, when the rulers were considered semi-deities, we can see dynamics that played out, in one way or another, largely until the Industrial Revolution. All domestic animals of economic importance were domesticated by the rise of Sumer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticate#Approximate_dates_and_locations_of_original_domestication

as were all domestic crops of significance:

http://archaeology.about.com/od/domestications/a/plant_domestic.htm

Sailing ships were in use:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554265&viewfull=1#post554265

as was the wheel. The milk-drinking pastoralists began their invasions of the settled agricultural valleys, which overthrew the feminine-based deities for masculine deities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_hypothesis

and those blond-haired, blue-eyed milk drinkers appeared on the scene in the north several thousand years ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=546922&viewfull=1#post546922

For the next four thousand years after Gilgamesh, the mode of production really did not change much, as empires continually rose and fell in the Old World, although there were some changes of note. A little over a thousand years after Gilgamesh, iron began to be smelted, and the leading contender for its origin is the Anatolian peninsula:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_working#Ancient_Near_East

Collars that did not strangle the horse were not invented until thousands of years after they could have been:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_collar#Development_of_the_collar

When the Classic Greeks appeared on the scene about 2,500 years ago, they were something a little different, as they pursued science, math, machines, and democracy (except slaves outnumbered free people in Athens), and were kind of considered the founders of Western thought, although their works were lost to the West for a millennium. Like everybody else, their methods wiped out their environment:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543474&highlight=sparta#post543474

and they tried imperial plunderings, notably Sicily, before their fall to Sparta, which tried to play the empire game, to be eclipsed in its turn by Macedonia, culminating in the reign of Alexander the Great, who conquered far and wide, all the way to India:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander%27s_Indian_campaign

India bore the brunt of foreign invasions many times, and Alexander’s and later Islamic armies invaded India via the Khyber Pass, where there is warfare even today, with the USA as the latest imperial aspirant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pass#Current_conflicts

So, the changes, even in the Industrial Age, are not as great as they may appear. It is always an energy game, which is an extremely clear motivation behind the USA’s imperial efforts in hydrocarbon country.

Egypt was the ancient world’s breadbasket, with the Nile siltation floods providing the Old World’s most reliable food supply, and it was repeatedly conquered by foreign invasion (Libya, Nubia, Assyria, Greece, Rome, Persia, Arabia, Turkey (Ottoman), France, Britain, neo-colonial US domination).

The Mediterranean Sea was the low energy transportation lane that civilizations on its periphery used for thousands of years, for trade, piracy, and conquest. The Minoan, Mycenaean, Phoenician, Egyptian, Greek, Spartan, Macedonian and other civilizations had their days of dominance, but the Big One was still to come, which began in shepherds' huts and came to dominate the Old World in ways never seen before, with many parallels to the USA’s current global dominance. I probably cannot write a whole lot about Rome that has not already been written, but I will explore it largely from the energetic/economic perspective in coming posts.

For now, it is off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
19th September 2012, 14:27
Hi:

Before I get to Rome, here is a little mystical interlude. From the earliest days of civilization, elites either founded religions or corrupted them so that the elites were portrayed as divine personages. A la the Michael teachings, I will buy the idea that the Infinite Spirit manifested several times long ago, though Krishna, Lao-Tzu, Buddha, Ra, and Jesus. I’ll also buy that the transcendental spirit has also appeared through Zoroaster, Socrates, Confucius, Mohammed, Gandhi, and perhaps others.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#infinite

For those who have had their mystical awakenings, the idea of Infinite and Transcendental spirits is not far-fetched, although historians and scholars question whether most of those personages really existed, with the stories of their lives being merely folk tales. I have been around some exalted spiritual beings in my lifetime, and I know that most of those around those exalted beings would not have understood, and in every instance, their contemporaries, and those who came after them, with their misguided or plainly self-serving agendas, corrupted the lessons of the masters. All organized religions are, at best, twisted versions of enlightened teachings, bent toward amassing wealth and power, using religion as a means of social control. So it is, in a world of scarcity.

The rise of science sought to supplant organized religion as the authority of reality, and it largely has, but science in no way had anything to say about the wisdom of the spiritual masters. Just yesterday, I was reading an article that speculates that science will eliminate the need for God:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49074598/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/will-science-someday-rule-out-possibility-god/

All I can say to that is that the materialists don’t get it, and never will get it, until they get some experience under their belt. Organized religion is the province of the Baby Soul, and materialism is the province of the Young Soul.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age

It seems that all souls need to go through those phases, at least on this planet. You might be surprised at how often I have to hear people spout their half-cocked mystical perspectives, as they tell me how creation stacks up, because they read about some dude in India and meditated a little. The mystical aspect is far from the be all, end all, but spiritual newbies often think so. We evolve our souls through the experiences of our lifetimes while we are here. While we are here, the lessons are here, not in some lofty, non-physical plane. The mystical aspect has its place, but when people use it to justify dishonesty, violence, coercion, and the other games that people play in a world of scarcity, they have failed to learn the lesson, and it is a lesson of the heart.

OK, off to Rome. Rome arose in a world where genocide, slavery, invasion and the like were normal aspects of existence. The most immediate predecessor to Roman civilization was the Etruscan one, which mostly existed north of what became Rome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization

Because the Etruscans left no written records, there has been debate for centuries about their origin. The Greeks and Carthaginians were the dominant players in the Mediterranean during the Etruscan days, and both influenced the Etruscans. The Etruscans stressed the nuclear family, and it was a stratified civilization, as they all were (as they all still are :) ). The Etruscans never had an empire, but just a bunch of cities with similar culture. The Celts absorbed the northern Etruscan cities, the native Italians absorbed the southern Etruscan cities, and when Rome arose, it absorbed all of it eventually, and that multi-cultural aspect of Rome’s beginnings likely had something to do with its success. It freely borrowed what it found useful from the peoples it conquered. It developed a laissez-faire religious system. Any belief was OK, as long as it kneeled to the political powers, which eventually meant the emperor.

In northern Italy is the Po river valley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Valley

Long before the rise of Rome, deforestation and siltation impacted the Po, just as it did in the Fertile Crescent and Near East. Ravenna was an important port for Rome, a ways from the mouth of the Po. Today, Ravenna sits several miles inland, as part of the large silt plain at the Po’s mouth. All of that silt that buried old cities and put a seaside city such as Ur 150 miles inland:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554340&viewfull=1#post554340

is not where the damage was. The damage is in the soils that were washed away from their site of origin. Soil is what plants need to live. All of that siltation is mute evidence of how deforestation and plow agriculture wrecked the lands, making them less amenable to support ecosystems. Tree roots suck up water from the soils and vent it to the atmosphere through transpiration. That dynamic is what sustains ecosystems such as the Amazon:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=550716&highlight=amazon#post550716

When a forest is razed, it also kills the cycling of water through the soils. The soils then become waterlogged, and can become salinated, and then the soil loses its ability to grow crops, so the farmer moves on to deforest some more land and wrest a few crops out of the ground before that land is also rendered infertile. This dynamic is as old as agriculture, and the greater the scale it was practiced, the quicker and more completely it wrecked the land. Again, a quarter of the world’s topsoil has been lost since World War II. This is one of many areas where we are on the fast track to oblivion, and taking the ecosystems with us. That may be humanity’s greatest crime.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

4evrneo
19th September 2012, 15:53
Wade,
I have to just tell you how much I am learning from your wisdom and insights. This is a world I didnt know existed and now that I am aware of it, I have a special place in my heart for you and the courage you possess. I hope there is another way to get there, and after reading most of your journey, I am putting you in my focus and attention. I personally dream of the leap to abundance and FE for all.

All my best Wade,
Blessings,
Annette

Wade Frazier
20th September 2012, 14:09
Hi 4evrneo:

Thanks for lending your awareness to this issue. That is my goal these days, to just get people thinking about it.

OK, Rome. Big subject. The USA is continually compared to Rome these days, and not in a good way. Is there a good way to be compared to Rome? Rome was a kingdom for nearly 250 years before it became what is today called a republic, and stayed a republic for nearly 500 years before it became an empire. It was an empire for nearly 1500 years, finally ending with the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans in 1453:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople

The part of the empire run from Rome, however, was finished nearly a thousand years before Constantinople fell, and Europe fell into its Dark Ages. But from its beginning in 753 BC, to its end in 1453 AD, what is commonly called Rome lasted more than 2,200 years. In scale and duration, nothing else in world history comes close.

In 117 AD, during Trajan’s rule, Rome ruled over about a quarter of humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png

It was the 800-pound gorilla of the ancient world. In Trajan’s time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traianus

the city of Rome had a population of perhaps one million people, as did Alexandria around the same era:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities_throughout_history

In 1100 AD, during the Medieval Warming Period, which was the time of city-building in Europe, Rome had declined to about 15,000 people living among the ruins of a once-great civilization. I have been reading about Rome, on and off, for about twenty years. Because Christianity was born in the empire, because Latin is still taught in American schools and spawned several widespread languages spoken today (they are called Romance languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages ), and is widely used in science and law, there is no escaping the influence of Rome, thousands of years after its peak. The decline and fall of Rome is one of the biggest subjects of antiquity studies. The issue of collapsing civilizations is a hugely contentious one these days. I have written about the debates that Jared Diamond has stirred.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=550716&viewfull=1#post550716

Efforts such as Questioning Collapse are unfortunately common enough, and I am not sure what all is behind them, but I think I see the human ego and various agendas at work, parading behind scholarly pretensions. The human presence on Earth has virtually never been “sustainable,” as humans burned through one energy source after another, all of which wrecked the environments. How could it be different? If humans wrest energy from the ecosystems that formerly supported other life forms, those other life forms will suffer for it, plain and simple. If humans burned forests and grasslands to produce human-friendly environments, it necessarily pushed out other creatures. With life always being adaptable, fire-resistant and even fire-dependent plants appeared and prospered, at the expense of those that could not, and animals also adapted to the incessant burning of the forests and plains that humans performed over many thousands of years. All the efforts to chalk up the megafauna extinctions to climate change, bolide impacts and other events, and downplaying the human impact, I regard as kind of fraudulent, especially when the same dynamics have been clearly recorded in the historical era, when humans invaded new lands that had formerly been people-free (New Zealand, Madagascar, islands in the Caribbean, the Indian and Pacific Oceans, and even in the Mediterranean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Later_extinctions ). The European expansion that “colonized” the islands in the Atlantic was instantly catastrophic for everything that lived there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#guanches

Plow agriculture wrecks the soils, while completely destroying the ecosystems that lived in and on those soils. There really can be no argument on that issue. Those exposed soils then blow and wash away to the oceans. That dynamic has been happening for the entirely of the civilizations that engaged in deforestation and plow agriculture. It does not take a rocket scientist to understand those simple dynamics.

I suspect that all of those scholars and scientists that deny that humans wreck environments, that we drove countless species to extinction and may be just getting warmed up, that we have been altering the atmosphere and climate for eight thousand years, that we have wrecked many environments so that they could no longer sustain us, and that we are doing the same thing today on a scale that threatens to make the entire planet uninhabitable, is just more of the egocentric games of denial that humans excel at, to deny the obvious, largely because we are all playing the scarcity game. I called it the zero-sum game long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#zero

and others have different names for it, but it is the mentality that the damage that we inflict on others is justified, because it is how we survive. That mentality is rooted in perhaps the biggest lie being told on Earth today, a lie of omission that manifests in the denial that FE and other technologies exist on the planet today, which can easily make all of that zero-sum-game rationalizing of exploitation, genocide, and extinction a completely obsolete mindset. A world of abundance, world healing, and something that looks a lot like heaven on Earth is just around the corner, if enough people with sufficient personal integrity can simply imagine what can be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

It is really not a difficult intellectual exercise. What is hard about it is letting go of all the egocentric garbage that is paraded daily in our societies that justify and even exalt scarcity and its dysfunctional adaptations. Brian’s questions about whether humanity is really a sentient species are appropriate:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

Will this be our species’ epitaph, "They almost reached sentience before they destroyed themselves”?

Can we get over the hump? Do enough of us really care? These are the questions that I have been living with for most of my life. From what I saw, I know that if several thousand people could achieve true sentience, which always begins in the heart, getting humanity over the hump into Sentience Land would be easy. But people like Brian and Dennis have been lone voices in the wilderness, assailed from all directions, with spear carriers like me trying to carry on to the degree that we can, in a world dominated by denial and indifference, which is really a world dominated by fear. I want to live in a world dominated by love, and we are not going to get there unless the means for abundance can make it past humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression that the “smart” instantly dismiss as a “conspiracy theory” (those clever Level 3s http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3).

Enough of that rant. I will be gone soon for the next week, and then very busy for the six weeks after that, so the going on this human journey series will be slow, but I will get there.

Writing about Rome is going to be a painful experience for me, partly because I will be writing about a culture that entertained itself by forcing people to murder each other. To call it a “civilization” is being charitable, but it was the ancient world’s greatest civilization, which in essence says horrific things about our species. In old writings of mine, I dealt with many of the religious/cultural aspects of Rome:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#bronze

but I am going to try to focus on the economic/energetic aspects of the rise and fall of Rome. It is a very long story, but at its root, it is about how Rome continually expanded by conquest and subjugation, stealing the gold, land, and flesh of the peoples they conquered, and as they made ever-wider expansion, the deforestation and plow agriculture that followed in their wake denuded the Mediterranean and burned through the forests of Western Europe all the way to the British Isles. The so-called Peace of Rome was like the peace of Genghis Khan’s empire. The Roman historian Tacitus described the Peace of Rome this way:

“To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.”

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tacitus#Agricola_.2898.29

Voices like his did not carry the day, obviously.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

sandy
21st September 2012, 06:13
Hang in Wade :-}

You are not alone in your frustration my Dear Brother and Friend. Heck I lost it the other day with my Brothers victim thinking and stance and before I knew it this slipped out of my mouth>>>You really need to wake the f**k up !! I don't know who was surprised more me or him :-)

Sometimes LOVE can seem harsh but that little outburst gave him food for thought and me too about my own sentient being because it almost felt too good to release the frustration I feel with not only him but the world at large.

See you on the up side and remember to take care of yourself in all your busyness of making a buck, writings to educate and inform and constant work to create a choir of sentient beings to help bring forth Free Energy. Much Love and Blessings

P.S. I'm now nicotine free as of two weeks so this may be the real culprit to losing my patience hahahaha LIFE IS GOOD :-)

Melinda
21st September 2012, 09:24
Hang in Wade :-}

You are not alone in your frustration my Dear Brother and Friend. Heck I lost it the other day with my Brothers victim thinking and stance and before I knew it this slipped out of my mouth>>>You really need to wake the f**k up !! I don't know who was surprised more me or him :-)

Sometimes LOVE can seem harsh but that little outburst gave him food for thought and me too about my own sentient being because it almost felt too good to release the frustration I feel with not only him but the world at large.

See you on the up side and remember to take care of yourself in all your busyness of making a buck, writings to educate and inform and constant work to create a choir of sentient beings to help bring forth Free Energy. Much Love and Blessings

P.S. I'm now nicotine free as of two weeks so this may be the real culprit to losing my patience hahahaha LIFE IS GOOD :-)

I always look forward to reading your posts Sandy :)
Sometimes I wonder why I let myself get angry at my family (...who am I to judge given my plethora of foibles, etc?) But then just when I think it was wanton self-indulgence, something flickers in their eyes or their voice that suggests a useful seed may have been sewn. Life is a mystery that way.
They say even Jesus tore up the temple at least once (although I'm quite sure my family doesn't compare to the scale of difficulty he was facing.)
Still, I'm often wondering if I'll make it to a zen-like sage state of being at some point in life where I can impart the healing without the acrimony.

A huge well-done on being nicotine free for 2 weeks. That's no easy feat. You're an inspiration.

Wade Frazier
21st September 2012, 14:39
Hi Sandy:

Congrats on doing what you can to kick the drugs. I wrestled with the bottle for twenty years, after it was kind of forced on me. When I write posts like the previous one, I know where they come from, and people like you can pick right up on it. I pretty much have no family left, and few friends, and most of that has to do with my journey. I have either been ostracized, attacked, or treated to some kind of strange hero-worship where the worshippers have eventually tried to compete with me regarding my understanding of the world. None of them really had a clue, parroting propaganda or half-understood teachings, thinking that they were being keenly insightful and helpful, and when I eventually told them to please stop, repeatedly, I would then get attacked, etc. It is a dreary dynamic, and I know why prophets have no honor in their home towns. Yes, even Christs had their bad days. Nobody gets off easy here.

There is a little method to my madness when I rant, which is to show my human side. When I get that conversation going that I envision, I probably won’t allow myself that “luxury.” It will be a high level conversation where I hope that we can get something done, something important. I might make a post or two before I am gone for about a week. We’ll see how it goes.

As I previously stated, Rome rose in a time when life was cheap. Iron Age agriculture, built on deforestation and the plow, afforded the agricultural surplus that funded civilization, but it was not a large surplus. It is estimated that it took around ten farmers to support one city dweller in those days. The basis for all early civilizations was peasants wrenching energy from the land. The Fertile Crescent was no longer so fertile, with those lower Mesopotamian city-states long since abandoned, from soil salination and siltation. Deforestation, primarily for short-lived agriculture and the fuel that the wood could supply, was the primary dynamic of destruction. Newly cleared land was coveted by all farmers; the first crops were bounteous, as the rich soils created by the forests were exploited. But it only took a few crops to noticeably deplete the soils, from nutrient depletion (nitrogen, minerals), and as the soils blew and washed away, there was progressively less soil for crops.

By the time Rome was founded, Greece had already been badly eroded by those practices, and there had already been two civilization collapses, of the Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations, and Greece was emerging from its Dark Ages when Rome was founded:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Dark_Ages

Greeks had settled on the Italian Peninsula:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia

largely as environmental refugees, and the Greek influence would be great on the rise of Rome.

Just so I am clear, Tainter argues that no civilization yet collapsed for environmental reasons that he knows of, but I regard such arguments with considerable skepticism. I’ll agree with Tainter that civilizations collapsed when the urban dwellers decided to get the heck out of town, because they had a better chance of being fed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

But why did they decide to leave, or why were their civilizations on the wrong end of a war? Homer-Dixon has part of it right, IMO, in that declining marginal returns from energy investments (Energy Return on Investment - EROI) is what led to Rome’s eventual fall. Because the energy of food and wood was virtually the sole basis of Roman energy (and the low-energy transportation lane that the Mediterranean afforded Rome), the decline in EROI was always directly attributable to land that no longer could provide wood or food. So, to say that declining EROI led to the collapse is to state very clearly that it was an environmental collapse, although that is not what the fleeing urban dweller thought; he was driven from the city due to hunger.

When an invading army conquered parts of the Roman Empire, it was because Rome could no longer generate the necessary energy to fund its defenses, and that was directly dependent on wood and food. I am getting a little ahead of myself here, but the Roman Empire was sustained almost purely by foreign conquest. And they enslaved the conquered peoples who ended up living short lives in the arenas, dying in combat to entertain the masses, or dying in the mines and on the plantations. To say that Rome “ruled” over its conquered territory is a misnomer; it raped and plundered its conquests, completely eradicating entire cities while sending the inhabitants off to short lives of slavery. The waste of human lives by Rome was prodigious, on a scale that the world had never seen before, and would not again until the rise of Nazi Germany:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#gladiator

And Nazi Germany actively appropriated Roman iconography, with the First Reich being the Holy Roman Empire:

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=4564

which tried to recapture the “glory” of Rome. The USA aped Roman civilization in many ways, such as with its “Senate,” and the monumental architecture of Washington D.C. is no different than what the earliest civilizations did, to overawe its subjects, to enforce a reverence for the elites. Today, American schoolchildren now go to Washington D.C. to drink the imperial Kool-Aid, usually in the eighth grade. It was not that way when I was a kid, but that kind of indoctrination is what declining empires do, to try to hold it together.

These Rome posts will take a little while, and I may not get another post done before I leave for a week.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
21st September 2012, 17:16
"a zen-like sage state of being at some point in life where I can impart the healing without the acrimony." Regards AWP - and Sandy, in this respect. I'm finding more and more I have to ignore the world to stay in a state of well being. I certainly get more done when I focus on my own small sphere. And except for the leap to the really big picture like FE and real freedom for humans, it seems better to focus small.

And Wade thanks once more for the comprehensive data.

sandy
21st September 2012, 22:00
Hi All,

Thanks for the support re quitting smoking, it is much appreciated :-)

I quit drinking over thirty years ago and I would say it seemed easier although I probably was more accepting of it's damage to my son and life than smoking so thus this go round is a little tougher. But you know what they say when the going gets tough>>>the tough get going!! You know in all our sensitiveness we are really very "tough" beings underneath, otherwise how could we keep our integrity and truths alive amongst all the dead. lol

A funny thing is happening right now in my life so i will share it with you or better yet bounce it off of you.

In working on being non-judgemental, compassionate and loving, I opened the door to a brother in need last year, and accompanied another brother to a sisters last Xmas that I had not communed with in over 3 years . Well these acts of love and compassion have brought most of my family back in my life including my granddaughters (spent 4 wonderful days and nights with me in early August) and nieces,nephews and cousins. Word sure traveled fast that I had been around and the requests for visits began arriving early this year. It seems that I have had non-stop company, requests for travel companion x3, phone calls galore, emails, etc and typical family interactions ever since.

I am happy to have family back in my life but at the same time happy to be living away from most of them due to our differences in lifestyles, beliefs, and ways of being. I know for me that having boundaries is important and at the same time not compromising who am and being true to myself is key to my sense of peace. It is a balancing act for sure but must be of purpose as going with the flow has created this turn of events. More learning to come I'm sure.:p

mosquito
22nd September 2012, 03:02
I'm finding more and more I have to ignore the world to stay in a state of well being. I certainly get more done when I focus on my own small sphere. And except for the leap to the really big picture like FE and real freedom for humans, it seems better to focus small.


That's exactly how it is for me these days, I alternate between focussing on the things life has given me to attend to personally, and a global vision for the future. No middle ground, and I feel more and more uncomfortable with contrived social situations.

sandy
22nd September 2012, 03:54
Just a quick message to bring this family topic back to Wade's writings, and back on track, I think what is happening with collapses of civilizations such as Rome, etc includes the break down of family in many ways as well. Those who are on different paths such as many of us here become estranged to our own as they no longer can connect in meaningful ways to them as before and become scared or intimidated by our changes. We have stepped out of the social paradigm and conditioning along with the peer pressure to get back in line. When I stand in their shoes I would call me weird,strange and nuts at times as well. :-)

It is all apart of the process leading up to civilization collapses. Wade has been clearly depicting through his research that this pattern is evident so long as we have been around. After all these eons nothing has really changed and unless we bring Free energy to fruition, nothing is going to change for the better ever. Just another collapse with the real threat of total extinction and Earth's total destruction.

Great interlude my Free energy Brothers and Sisters>>> Love to All and now back to the next Roman Post

Ilie Pandia
22nd September 2012, 07:20
It's becoming rather evident that we either learn to use Free Energy in a constructive way and fast! or we are doomed :) (at least in this plane of existence).

It seems that w/o free energy there is no way out of "burning through resources and then collapsing". The future historians may call it the nuclear war, or they will be more wise and see it as scarcity based reaction to dropping energy levels.

History would have made such much more sense if it were taught as the "energy dynamics" and not the political and economical games the rulers played.

As a funny observation, perhaps many readers of this thread are familiar with the Starcraft game where you actually get to reply the rise (and fall) of Rome but this time... in space. Most players understand (at least at a subconscious levels) that this is an energy game. The player that builds up the most energy reserves faster than the others wins :). You even have in game characters telling over and over at the worst times possible "Not enough energy!" :biggrin:

The illusion of the game is that it ends after you win the battles. If it were to continue, your space empire would collapse itself once you would run of resources. So you only got an empty victory.

Reinhard
22nd September 2012, 09:15
It's becoming rather evident that we either learn to use Free Energy in a constructive way and fast! or we are doomed :) (at least in this plane of existence).

It seems that w/o free energy there is no way out of "burning through resources and then collapsing". The future historians may call it the nuclear war, or they will be more wise and see it as scarcity based reaction to dropping energy levels.

History would have made such much more sense if it were taught as the "energy dynamics" and not the political and economical games the rulers played.



Ilie, I totally agree. How should we go about it --- in a 'constructive way and fast'?

From a systemic-comprehensive point of view, I think we should keep being open-minded, open-hearted towards all the diffent approaches of FE. That includes a clear scepticism and takes into consideration all the bad experiences and covert obstacles, inflicted by 'godzilla' and our own personal shortcomings. Like I pointed out in my thread on Rossi's Cold Fusion approach (maybe Keshe, too; I just don't know enough about him), those people need all the support we can give---on all levels. Among others, we probably should clearify the level(s) above godzilla and its puppets.
Reinhard

Melinda
22nd September 2012, 11:55
...From a systemic-comprehensive point of view, I think we should keep being open-minded, open-hearted towards all the diffent approaches of FE... [portion missing] ...Like I pointed out in my thread on Rossi's Cold Fusion approach (maybe Keshe, too; I just don't know enough about him), those people need all the support we can give...

There's an element of this that truly resonates with me Reinhard. I fully appreciate that this thread is not the place for me to discuss my questions or feelings about those inventors and their efforts; but wishing the best for them (and wishing for them to find the best in themselves), taking an active interest in their work, supporting its development from afar - it all feels like a valuable aspect of growing the FE foundations around the planet. That said, I completely understand why people who have been burned and thrashed around for years in the FE battlefield would have less time or head space for involvement in that kind of conversation. They gave more of themselves over to supporting inventors 'on the ground' in a matter of years than I might manage in several lifetimes. I see the practical understanding being grown on this thread, and the fact that its comprehensive landscape is another place to meditate on the benefits and implications of FE, as an energetic form of support to all those inventors. I feel like the more of us that can understand the broad context of FE's implications, the better a network of support we can make on all levels. These comments aren't so much directly to you Reinhard. But what you said inspired me to want to clarify how I see these things, and writing often helps me to do that.

I really found it uplifting reading everyone's comments from the past couple of days. Makes me feel less alone in my search for understanding of what's being presented here and consolidates the value of it.


Post 2268, Wade Frazier: "...The USA aped Roman civilization in many ways, such as with its “Senate,” and the monumental architecture of Washington D.C. is no different than what the earliest civilizations did, to overawe its subjects, to enforce a reverence for the elites..."
Its interesting pointing out to people (present company excepted) the unnervingly solid echoes of ancient elites in the modern landscape. As just one example, London has its share of obelisk monuments, the significance of which 'technologically' and symbolically can easily go unnoticed. Much as I've researched it, I'm quite sure I don't understand it fully. My point is simply that its there, in plain sight, to be questioned. A topic in itself that probably has more than one thread of its own on the forum.

Wade Frazier
22nd September 2012, 13:06
Hi:

Great comments. I don’t have the time to give good responses before I jump on a plane, but briefly...in the scientific debates on the collapse of civilizations, it was always running out of energy, at its root. Jared Diamond made the case that many civilizations wiped out their environments. Others have made the case that droughts did it, and Tainter made the case that there was a declining marginal return on investments in complexity. It each case, it was just another way that they ran out of energy, or how running out of energy was what collapsed them.

It really can be seen as the energy production activities that sustained the civilization failed, whether it was drought, famine, disruption by invasion, or deforestation and desertification. In all early civilizations, the primary energy source was food (for humans and draft animals) and the heat provided by burning wood. Old World cultures eventually learned how to capture wind and water power, and it helped Europe begin to industrialize, but it was only when the energy of coal was tapped that England was really able to industrialize. Coal is still the big one, and it will be the main energy source long after the oil is gone, unless we do FE.

On Rossi and Keshe, briefly. Neither one of them has any inkling of what they are up against. Neither did Dennis and I, in 1987. Their approach is like countless other inventors over the years, doomed to failure. I am not even interested in what Dennis is doing anymore, as he keeps trying to go the business route. What I am trying to do is help people develop an energy-centric, comprehensive awareness, so that people will keep their eye on the ball, and the ball is not another hero/aspirant who is trying to scale the ramparts. The way those two are going about it, with sensational statements, without any demos to back them up, playing the patent and capitalistic game, is literally the easiest one for Godzilla to defeat. In the USA, there are about four thousand classified energy patents. When the government does that, the inventor goes to jail if he keeps it up. It becomes illegal to even discuss the technology.

I am not going to allow myself to get distracted by the inventor of the hour. The day that an inventor with the goods (Rossi and Keshe have yet to demonstrate that they do) gives it to a worthy group (I have never seen or heard of that group, and what I am trying to do here is begin to amass that worthy group, and the work has really not yet begun), then there will be an effort that might have a prayer of success. Until that day comes, I have no interest in what another inventor has come up with. The inventor route is about zero-for-50,000 so far, and there is nothing that Keshe and Rossi are doing that gives me any hope that they will not make it zero-for-50,002 in the near future, if they even really have the goods. Sparky Sweet did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

as have others in my circle. Not a prayer, any of them. I am trying a different approach.

Time for my full-body scanner experience. :)

Best,

Wade

ulli
22nd September 2012, 13:33
Pluto and Uranus are squaring now.
This is our chance. A window has opened, or rather, an inter-dimensional gate.
Pluto's energy is comparable to that of a volcano-
a mountain that is not just any mountain, but something more deceptive since deep underneath the pristine flora and fauna there are rivers of hot lava seeking an exit through the blocking rocks.
Meanwhile Uranus' energy is more electric...it needs a duality of a different kind than Pluto. Where Pluto's energy is a long-term build-up Uranus can produce an explosion in an instant...the moment when two opposite poles are at the right distance to one another.
So now these two are meeting...the 90 degree angle in the sky has brought them onto an empty dance floor, or is it a boxing ring?
Each person on earth is experiencing this confrontation on their own inner sky line, and only a few understand the process.
If enough people become aware that this is their chance to bring about the highest good for all, all they need to do is modify their own behavior in such a way as they would like others to behave towards them, then start sending their daydream out into the ether.
And voila! The Golden Age.
Simple.

Reinhard
22nd September 2012, 13:36
...From a systemic-comprehensive point of view, I think we should keep being open-minded, open-hearted towards all the diffent approaches of FE... [portion missing] ...Like I pointed out in my thread on Rossi's Cold Fusion approach (maybe Keshe, too; I just don't know enough about him), those people need all the support we can give...

There's an element of this that truly resonates with me Reinhard. I fully appreciate that this thread is not the place for me to discuss my questions or feelings about those inventors and their efforts; but wishing the best for them (and wishing for them to find the best in themselves), taking an active interest in their work, supporting its development from afar - it all feels like a valuable aspect of growing the FE foundations around the planet. That said, I completely understand why people who have been burned and thrashed around for years in the FE battlefield would have less time or head space for involvement in that kind of conversation. They gave more of themselves over to supporting inventors 'on the ground' in a matter of years than I might manage in several lifetimes. I see the practical understanding being grown on this thread, and the fact that its comprehensive landscape is another place to meditate on the benefits and implications of FE, as an energetic form of support to all those inventors. I feel like the more of us that can understand the broad context of FE's implications, the better a network of support we can make on all levels. These comments aren't so much directly to you Reinhard. But what you said inspired me to want to clarify how I see these things, and writing often helps me to do that.

I really found it uplifting reading everyone's comments from the past couple of days. Makes me feel less alone in my search for understanding of what's being presented here and consolidates the value of it.


Post 2268, Wade Frazier: "...The USA aped Roman civilization in many ways, such as with its “Senate,” and the monumental architecture of Washington D.C. is no different than what the earliest civilizations did, to overawe its subjects, to enforce a reverence for the elites..."
Its interesting pointing out to people (present company excepted) the unnervingly solid echoes of ancient elites in the modern landscape. As just one example, London has its share of obelisk monuments, the significance of which 'technologically' and symbolically can easily go unnoticed. Much as I've researched it, I'm quite sure I don't understand it fully. My point is simply that its there, in plain sight, to be questioned. A topic in itself that probably has more than one thread of its own on the forum.

Hi wandering ponderer, Wade,

Understood. Just every once in a while, I feel I should drop in from the side-lines, because I haven't, yet, given up on trying to mediate between the different 'perspectives', and let people---who want to hear--know about how things are progressing. Trying to mediate, even between irreconcilable opposites (had to look this one up) might just be part of my aquarian nature ;)

After all, we're in this together...
.................Back to what I call work: preparing for a meeting on the various technical, societal and spiritual aspects of the phenomenon called 'Energy'.....................

Reinhard

ps: Hope you had a smooth flight, Wade. Do you really allow them to strip-scan you at the airport?

Ernie Nemeth
23rd September 2012, 15:50
Wade, have you ever heard of the Ismael series by Daniel Quin?
He speaks of the same sort of dynamic, maintaining that "civilization" and agriculture are mankind's bane - to sum up his work in a phrase. Great reading and very enlightening.

LOve your human journey posts. Good stuff.
Thanks.

Chris Gilbert
23rd September 2012, 16:46
That's exactly how it is for me these days, I alternate between focussing on the things life has given me to attend to personally, and a global vision for the future. No middle ground, and I feel more and more uncomfortable with contrived social situations.

It's similar for me as well. Although I still have the desire to spend time with friends occasionally, the social activities most prefer to engage in no longer hold as much appeal as they once did. If it was not for friends wanting to meet at the club/bar, I would have almost nothing to do with such locales. Oftentimes when I do go, an hour is enough and after that I start thinking about all the time I could be spending on discussions of global transformation, or my writing, hiking and Taoist practices.

Limor Wolf
23rd September 2012, 22:12
Before a person opens a business he should learn the merits of what he has to ofer, the statistics, the history of failures and the success rate of those who tried before him and draw some conclusions from all the above. The more so when it comes to a 'product' that its importance is almost inconceivable such as FE is.

This is what Wade is doing, he had his own 'business' or worked at his partner's business, and hardly survived the experience, and back when there were much less statistics to rely on than there is today. the 'product' is too important to not bring it out to the public so he is not giving up, just trying a different approach to that which proved itself once and again to be futile.

Why, oh why don't inventors check the statistics, learn the history, see what was done before their own personal attempts. our hearts as future 'consumers' and 'customers' and beneficiaries, will always be with them and everyone's desire is for their ultimate success! because the inventors success is everyone else's success! and damn, they can even make a few bucks on it. But personally, I would rather adopt Wade's insights, selfishly happy that someone else (I am sorry Wade!) has personally learned that this road is blocked and not about to be open soon,therefore, to go the same road again is to waste time and risk an avalanche, if some chose it, so be it, but the chance that we will get to our destination via this same road is very low.


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Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " in the scientific debates on the collapse of civilizations, it was always running out of energy, at its root. Jared Diamond made the case that many civilizations wiped out their environments. Others have made the case that droughts did it, and Tainter made the case that there was a declining marginal return on investments in complexity. It each case, it was just another way that they ran out of energy, or how running out of energy was what collapsed them. "

The most challenging conclusion from all this comprehensive historical review is that we are requested to create something from it's very primeval begining state, much like inventing the wheel, but even more challenging. It seems like any other previous inventions of the human evolution were always achieved as a consequence of some sort of continuity, where one thing led to another.

Birthing FE is like giving birth to a new world where we have no functioning example to educate ourselvs from, so, all which is left for us is to dream and base our visioning on some deep knowledge that we 'know' is out there.

We must succeed in it and may god be with us. What is known in the history of mankind is that there were always been exceptional cases (Wade, you are getting very close to the time period of Jesus, please don't forget the man, he had some great energy :)) and maybe it will not hurt us to ask for some emotional support, we will do the job alright, but please give us some cheers from up there, With pom-poms and everything... and maybe we will meet for a coffee after this game will be successfuly over.

Wade Frazier
28th September 2012, 06:08
Hi Ulli:

Another way to see your astrological aspect is my Muppet Movie ending FE scenario: (Damn! The clip was taken down at YouTube and I could not find another), where the clouds part for the fairy-tale ending. I am up for that. :)

Hi Reinhard:

I choose my battles. I am not a rebel at heart. As much as I hate traveling, I do not want to get on the "no-fly" list. The day that all passengers are required to get a colonoscopy before getting on the plane (because they "caught" the "Bowel Bomber" in the act), I may do something public, but for now I just submit to the procedures.

Hi Ernie:

That is kind of a long story on Quinn. I began with learning all things orthodox, such as having the encyclopedia as my bedside companion as a child, and reading the entire paleontological section of my grade school library. My mystical awakening changed that, as well as my first professional mentor inventing the world's best engine for running a car:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

although I found Frank Edwards's books fascinating when I was about thirteen.

I did not become an alternative guy overnight, but it was a long, slow process. In my typical zeal for learning, I ate up the accounting curriculum after that voice suggested that I study business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

But that would not have happened without my mystical awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

But immediately after graduation, I began to question what I now know was my capitalist indoctrination:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

I would later discover that what I was going though was common with the few people that I eventually found like me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

After several years of gradual disillusionment, that voice led me to Dennis, and then my wild ride began:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

When Dennis got his first free energy idea, I did not even know how his heat pump worked, but I soon brought in Mr. Mentor to help assess it, and he eventually proposed marrying his engine to Dennis's heat pump panels to do FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ventura

and they lowered to boom on us soon thereafter. During those days, I was introduced to a great deal of alternative politics and alternative science. After I staggered out of Ventura, I realized that most of what I was taught about how the world really worked was probably false, and I began to digest the alternative media:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

Investigated how my history curriculum in school stacked up to my adult researches:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more

and I stumbled into Rife, Naessens:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

and a lot of alternative medicine, while looking at orthodoxy's dark underbelly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm

I found out about Sparky Sweet in 1990:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

and I then knew that we were not pursuing a phantom during my days with Dennis. We were a great threat to the world's power structure, and were dealt with accordingly.

I have not thought too much about that evolution, but I suppose that my fascination with Frank Edwards's stuff was an early warning sign. My mystical awakening caused me to begin questioning the materialist story. I clearly recall, during my second year of college, shaking my head at the battles between the Evolutionists and the Creationists, realizing that they both missed the boat.

I avidly studied a vast array of material during the first half of the 1990s, from classical thermodynamics and scientific history to mountains of channeled material. In 1995, I was introduced to the Velikovsky issue via my investigations of Carl Sagan's "skeptical" work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

and have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy ever since. Back in those days, a close friend told me about his little underground demonstration of FE, anti-gravity, and other technologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

So, I realized that the physics texts were cave drawings compared to the principles that those exotic technologies operated under, and when I later became aware of Steve Greer's efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#greer

what his Disclosure Project witnesses described was sometimes exactly what my friend described, and my friend does not even believe in ETs.

In the late 1990s, I began reading quite a bit of feminist literature, including the work of Mary Daly and Riane Eisler:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine

Kind of like my early orthodox studies, I really threw myself into it, going deeply on the subject matter. But, all of those innumerable experiences with orthodoxy and the fringes eventually gave me a healthy skepticism toward all claims, both orthodox and fringe. None of that material is for quick study artists, and I looked into issues such as the moon landings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

and the JFK hit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

for ten years before I decided that I had anything to say about them. What I found was that when fringe claims were tied directly to direct personal experience, particularly by those close to me, such as Gary Wean and the JFK hit, or the underground demo that my friend saw, or what my pals saw of Sparky Sweet's gizmo, that stuff tended to be rock solid. But idiosyncratic reconstructions of the past, where the scholar tried to come up with some grand unified theory that was at odds with orthodoxy, I found to usually be wanting. That is partly because it is not easy to become an expert in the many areas that those grand theorists tackle, and their work can become a house of cards that crumbles when one of their tenets is disproven. At this time, I largely see Velikovsky's work in that way, and Eisler's feminine-based archeological interpretations I consider questionable (which Quinn lauded, for instance). Several years ago, I stumbled upon evidence that my greatest influence on matters of holistic health was a charlatan, and I exposed him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/bragg.htm

I have seen many fringe claims fall apart on further inspection, while the microscopes of Rife and Naessens, which attain "impossible" resolutions that can be verified by anybody who looks through the lens of the scopes, is solid evidence that orthodoxy can be so wrong that it can also look like a house of cards. Navigating between the genuine and the bogus, in the fringes and in orthodoxy, can be a bewildering experience, and I wrote an essay about that dilemma several years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

This is the long way of answering your question, Ernie. I had heard of Quinn's book for years, with all manner of plaudit aimed at it, but when I read it about ten years ago, I was far from impressed with his Socratic gorilla or its message. I kept seeing people such as Brian O cite it, but I was mystified as to why that book was so popular with people who I thought should know better, and I eventually put it in the category of books such as The Celestine Prophecy, which are for beginners who like reading grand yarns. I did not know that Quinn made a series out of his Ishmael character, but that is typical. Maybe I'll pick up his work again, but it seemed very pedestrian to me. Maybe it has grown some, but I doubt I will be picking it up again. He has it backwards, I think, regarding the Domestication Revolution. The myths derived from the reality, not the other way around. That takers/leavers duopoly I don't take very seriously. An over-idealization of hunter-gatherers has been happening for a long time, and Quinn does it, too. Dark Pathers have been in every culture, and in a world of scarcity, they can tend to dominate, as they manipulate others with economic incentives/penalties. They can be very talented, and Joe Average plays along if he thinks the game will feed him, which is root dynamic of the success of all of scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I have seen Quinn's approach over and over, and I highly doubt it is accurate. From what I have seen, ideology is a reaction to material reality, not the other way around. Ideology is generally used to justify unfair economic realities. Slavery predated writing and the tales that come down to us from Sumer and eventually the Old Testament by several thousand years. The ideology to make it "right" came later, as with the tales of Genesis that made our exploitation of the ecosystems "right," even making it a directive from the Creator:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#genesis

Exploiting ecosystems for human gain is probably as old as the mastery of fire. In none of the epochal transitions that I know of was it a forward-thinking process. Necessity led to invention which led to the ideologies that justified it. Often enough, such as with slavery, the new material reality made the institution obsolete, and then people decided that the Bible did not justify slavery, after all. What I am trying to help happen has likely never happened before, in that people will envision a change before it materially manifests, as a way to catalyze its manifestation for the rest who cannot even imagine it until they can have the experience of it.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

As people in the alternative energy field know, if an energy alternative technology is any more expensive than orthodox energy technology, it won't sell.

I think of the Quinn phenomenon as similar to the fervor that greeted The Secret, with my wife and I being bombarded with The Next Big Thing for months. We were badgered enough that we finally sat down to watch it, and after about three minutes into their pitch (after the Hollywood beginning), I paused it and looked at my wife in disbelief. What drivel, but it epitomizes the New Age:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

Thrive is just the latest kindergarten effort in these realms. To do what I have in mind, we have to get far past kindergarten, and I know that almost nobody can do it. We can't settle for the comforting pabulum that is continually served up, both in orthodoxy and on the fringes, and get anywhere on the FE path. Naïve, kindergarten-ish efforts are doomed to a bloody, fiery end in the FE field.

Hi Enishi:

Yes, all of those "fun" activities of the masses, such as getting drunk in social settings, eventually lose their appeal, for those who awaken. Little that I do today for fun is what the masses do to get their kicks, but some is, and I realize that it is due to conditioning/experiences from my youth that I am not quite ready to give up. My wife thinks that it helps to ground me, and she may be right, but my favorite grounding experience is hiking in the wilderness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm

Hi Limor:

Thanks. Huge subject. Yes, part of why I am not with Dennis anymore is that he is trying to bring the means to radically transform the human journey through the mundane vehicles of capitalistic business. He is the most ingenious businessman that I ever encountered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

but the business route tends to drag the effort down into the mundane aspects of the business world, making something with mind-boggling potential into just another product, and people then filter FE through their puny conceptions. FE is one hell of a lot bigger than saving money on our energy bills, but when the mentality is at that level, the efforts are easily defeated, with Godzilla as the apex predator. That is partly why the inventors almost never understand, either playing the capitalist/patent game, becoming highly paranoid, etc. Open-sourcing it is a step in the right direction that no inventor that I ever met was willing to do, but that is only the first step in a long and perilous journey, and I have never seen an inventor who walked more than a few steps down the path. If he had anything with potential, Godzilla and the other predators quickly took it out of circulation, usually by the friendly buyout offer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

Classifying the patents is another way that several thousand inventions have been taken out in the USA, and Godzilla needed to start playing rough with only a relative few stubborn inventors. I suspect that most inventors making noise today do not have the goods. Godzilla and the others do not let somebody with the goods run around loose for long, and those big-talking inventors today are probably either on the payroll as a kind of "false flag" distraction, or playing their free-lance games and Godzilla sits back and watches them do his work for him, leading people astray. As I have mentioned plenty, I have no interest in the inventor/capitalist route these days, and am trying something different. Enough people need to raise their awareness far above where inventors are approaching the public from, including what Dennis is doing. If enough can do that and form the chorus, somebody like Dennis will easily get across the finish line, but he won't be doing it alone as the world's hero taking on Godzilla (which people such as Keshe and Rossi seem oblivious to, although Keshe got his feet a little wet with his international intrigue, but barely wet). That entire approach is the hero/martyr/victim path. It is time for the creator path to be tried, which is what I am trying to help get going, and we will see how it goes.

On Jesus, because I was raised in the West, there was no escaping the stories that we are told about him. As with several others, I'll buy the idea that the Infinite Spirit manifested through Jesus:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=555848&viewfull=1#post555848

as corrupted the stories about him may be that have been passed down to us. And I'll buy the idea that his purpose was to try to help right humanity's ship, especially since he was born in the Roman Empire. That his life became the basis of state religions would probably be ironic to him.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2012, 18:01
Hi:

More on Rome soon, but first, a little recap on geophysical processes and some soil science. As I wrote almost three months ago, as I began this outline for my upcoming essay, volcanic basalt was hydrated by the oceans into lighter granite, and that granite floats atop the heavier basalt rock and comprises the continents today, and the continents have been continually growing for the past three billion years or so:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=519314&viewfull=1#post519314

(a geologist friend had a revised way of saying the above: "In mainstream theories, the granitic part of the continental masses were/are generated by partial melting of subducted slabs of basaltic oceanic crust - returning in the form of granitic batholith. Granitic-type material can also be produced through metamorphism and partial remelting at the base of large thicknesses of sediment - typically during continental collisions" - and I will do my best to say it as accurately as I can in the upcming essay - my point was that water from the oceans incorporated into the heavy basalts created the lighter granites, and I want to be precise when I write that essay).

When the granitic continents appeared, they were deserts, by definition. There was no life on them, except for some bacterial mats (stromatolites http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=526024&highlight=stromatolite#post526024) along the seashores. The granite was comprised of great slabs, and when it rained, the water washed straight into the oceans in sheets. The first rivers were braided rivers, with no stable shorelines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braided_river

The geological processes that formed the continents created rock. Rock is solid stuff, made by the compression of gravity (my friend added "or by igneous processes - volcanoes and their ilk"). Rock was turned into soil by being exposed to the atmosphere, sunshine, rain, and other forces, which is called weathering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weathering

Weathering breaks rocks into sand and soil. Erosion is the movement of rocks and soil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erosion

The disintegration of rock by weathering is what made the continents inhabitable, but before plants colonized land, a great deal of that weathered and eroded rock eventually washed into the oceans, forming sediments on the ocean floor. The tectonic processes often subducted those sediments back underground, compressing them back into rock. (further from my geologist friend - "actually, the sediments are typically too light to go down the trench. They get mostly peeled off and form huge masses of deformed sediment and rock - like the example of Crete in front of the subjecting Mediterranean oceanic crust. Only the more dense basaltic material gets shoved down into the earth's mantle." - she and I will need to communicate more, but water definitely was hydrated into the basalt oceanic crust in its multi-hundred-million year journey across the ocean floor, which is where the water came from to make the granites, according to my admittedly Geology 101 understanding, that I largely got from Lunine's Earth) That cycle created metamorphic rocks, with sandstone an example of the sand of weathering and erosion being compressed into rock again (I could have used a better example than sandstone - again from my friend "sandstone doesn't need any tectonic process as such. You can create a nice sandstone just with a nice buried beach deposit and a bit of ground water with the right pH that can carry some components in solution, like calcium carbonate or iron oxide or silica. These can precipitate when the conditions are correct, like cooling of the ground water temperature and presto, you have rock"): :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandstone#Origins

Weathering has also been removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=523971&viewfull=1#post523971

which has been slowly starving the atmosphere of carbon dioxide, and is the leading candidate for the cooling of Earth’s surface for the past forty million years or so:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=533612&viewfull=1#post533612

But the colonization of land by plants changed the continents from desert into something that supported life, beginning with the plants. That weathered and eroded rock comprised the soils that plants could put their roots down into, for both stability and the nutrients that their roots could absorb. The key conditions for plants to thrive are: sunshine, water, carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium in the soils. Ground up rock makes phosphorus and potassium more available to roots, and nitrogen is made available by bacteria in the one of the most energy-intensive activities in the biosphere, fixing nitrogen from the atmosphere, making it biologically available:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=520372&highlight=nitrogen#post520372

Plants entered into a symbiosis with nitrogen-fixing bacteria, where the bacteria get their energy from plant roots, and use that energy to fix nitrogen.

Plants have a hard time living on bare rock, but I have seen that happen for many years, as trees grow right out of rocks high in the mountains. The roots grow and force open cracks in the rock. That provides a foothold that eventually creates the conditions for an ecosystem to form, beginning with the soil that the plants eventually create, with falling leaves and needles. What is apparent in the marginal environments of the mountains is greatly magnified in the lowlands, or the virgin forest floors that I have been blessed to experience where I live, although everybody’s favorite places in the mountains are meadows, especially in bloom, as my favorite pictures from my hiking career show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm

Forests not only created a “boundary layer” of relatively calm air between the ground and the treetops that sheltered the animal life that followed the plants onto land, the trees and soil (that the trees both created and stabilized with its roots) also became a great sponge that retained part of the water from precipitation. When rain fell on a forest, it no longer ran in great sheets and braided rivers back into the oceans, but “hung up” in the forest-based ecosystems. Plant roots also stabilized riverbanks and created the rivers that we are familiar with today.

For an idea of how precipitation and land interacted before land-based plants, see what happens when rain falls on a desert. The rain does not have any forest to soak it up, and it all runs quickly off the land, back into the ocean. In deserts, when it rains, it creates a “flash flood”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_flood#Causes

That fast-running water also creates a lot of erosion, washing soils away, ultimately into the oceans.

Since the very beginnings of civilization, deforestation was observed to create flooding when it rained, and the denuded soils also washed away, which is where siltation then clogged the rivers and buried those early cities of Mesopotamia and the Near East:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554340&viewfull=1#post554340

That dynamic had been happening for thousands of years when Rome rose. Rome’s energy needs were prodigious, and deforestation, siltation, and desertification were constants. I get ahead of myself a little, but when Rome conquered Carthage, and turned North Africa into a big farm to feed Rome, Utica became the capital of the Roman presence in what was Carthage, and as with the other old cites, Utica’s ruins today sit several miles inland, on a plain of silt that deforestation and farming created:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utica,_Tunisia

The Giza plateau was once on the shoreline, but today it sits a hundred miles inland. The topsoil of the Nile Delta is up to seventy feet deep. All of that topsoil washed down from upstream, and not all of it was natural erosion. Wherever there is significant erosion, it means that there is not plant cover to protect the soils. The evidence is that deforestation began about 10,000 years ago in Europe, first to create environments conducive to game animals (as the Indians of the Eastern Woodlands were doing when Europe’s invasion of North America began http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before), and later for agriculture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation#Prehistory

A temperate forest can create about a foot of topsoil in four hundred years. The deep topsoils of America’s Great Plains were created by glaciers grinding rocks into powder (glaciers grind rock against rock). In little more than a hundred years, up to eight feet in areas, or half of the original topsoil, has been washed away by plow agriculture. The situation of civilizations wiping themselves out by deforestation, plow agriculture and the resulting siltation and desertification is not a new idea. A study in the 1940s found a hundred dead cities in Syria, as they wiped out their environments and left behind a desert, and all over the Promised Land are deserts that were once forests and then farms and pastures:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/Lowd/Lowd1.html

As I wrote earlier, up to half of the rain that falls in the Amazon today is recycled from the rainforest itself:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543906&viewfull=1#post543906

When the land is deforested and eroded, it impacts the climate, which was observed clear back to Gilgamesh’s time, which left behind the first written records that we can decipher. The erosion of the past century dwarfs all previous erosion in human history combined, with about a quarter of the world’s topsoil lost since World War II. What Rome did was deforest and erode the lands on a previously unprecedented scale, and it is probably the key reason why Rome declined and eventually fell. It wiped out its ability to generate energy from the environment, and food and wood had to be imported from further and further away, which strained its energy systems, making them less resilient. But I get a little ahead of myself. This weekend, I will be making a few Rome posts, but I will be plunking along at a slow pace for the next six weeks, as my day job gets crazy again.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2012, 21:46
Hi:

One goal of this string of posts since early July is to help people see the big picture, and the big picture is also the long picture. The geological timescale is a pretty big thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_time_scale#Table_of_geologic_time

Life has existed on Earth for billions of years, but complex life has existed for only a small fraction of that time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ediacaran

Less than 0.1% of the species that have ever existed are alive today. The rest had their time on Earth and went extinct. They virtually always went extinct because Earth could no longer support them. Earth’s surface is always changing, sometimes radically. But when thinking in terms of the geologic timescale, other than the meteor that wiped out virtually all of the dinosaurs:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=530604&highlight=cretaceous+extinction#post530604

there has been nothing more radical in Earth’s history than what humans have been and are currently doing. But many of the most radical changes happened in far more time than a human lifespan, so people could not even comprehend the impact of their behaviors. Their level of understanding was infinitesimal. They wiped out all of Earth’s large animals that they could, and did it in the geological blink of an eye. The greatest extinction event of complex life in Earth’s history was the Permian Extinction:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=529560&highlight=permian+extinction#post529560

and it took millions of years to happen. Humanity drove nearly all the large animals to extinction within hundreds of years, or a few thousand years at most, after encountering them:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=539852&highlight=megafauna#post539852

The rise of humanity likely also drove all other humanoid species to extinction. And in probably not one instance did anybody really understand the ramifications of their self-interested efforts. On the geological timescale, the reign of humans has been like an unending cosmic lightning strike that has literally been burning up the planet. And it has been getting worse lately, far worse. The current denial of the masses, enabled by the media and people such as Rush Limbaugh, is part of our semi-sentient heritage, where nobody has a clue, or even cares, until the resources are gone. The level that humanity is currently playing at not only threatens to take us out, but will take most of the ecosphere with us. And all of it is due to our energy acquisition practices, which has always been the primary vector of our destruction of Earth’s ecosystems.

In order to grok FE and what can come with it, people have to unhook from the indoctrination systems and learn to see and think. But in a world of scarcity, everybody is fighting for their slice of the pie and nobody can really lift their eyes above the fray and really see what is happening. That is where the comprehensive perspective comes in, and it begins in the heart, because people living in fear have tunnel vision, unable to see past their immediate self-interest, as they try to survive. There have been exceptions to that blindness over the course of history, but they have almost always been lone voices in the wilderness. And when people begin to wake up past egocentric awareness, such as environmentalists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

their awareness falls into a different fear-trap. I have virtually never met an environmentalist that was not in Levels 2, 3 or 5:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level2

That myopia also manifest in “ideals” that various activists invoke, as if they are normal and natural. The hunter-gatherer lifestyle is humanity’s oldest, and it quickly drove all large animals to extinction wherever they did not learn to avoid humans. That is also when humans left their natural range and left fruit-eating behind and became super-carnivores, although our anatomy is poorly adapted for a carnivorous diet. After all the easy meat was rendered extinct, plants and animals were domesticated, but the seed and root crops that comprise humanity’s staple today are not our natural diet (as well as milk products), but are very recent innovations, particularly on the scale that they are consumed. The ideal human diet is primarily live fruits and vegetables, with a relatively small proportion cooked, and all food preservation is an unhealthy practice, but preserved food provided the calories so that domesticated humans could survive the seasons. The pastoral ideal is not natural. Nor are farms, and as we are seeing on this thread, sustainable agriculture has been extremely rare, almost entirely restricted to Stone Age peoples who could not easily deforest the land and engage in plow agriculture. There has been a great idealization of those Stone Age cultures in various corners, but I consider it highly likely that their “harmony” with their environment was largely because they were not able to wreak the havoc on it that metal-smelting cultures could.

When the Domestication Revolution and subsequent Industrial Revolution are seen, stripped of the ideological baggage that has attended them, they both obviously inflicted immense destruction on Earth and our fellow denizens. And from all corners come all manner of justification and rationale, but the fact remains that both “revolutions” have been awesomely destructive to our home planet, only on a larger scale than the “super-predator” revolution did forty thousand years ago or so:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

when the reign of humans really began in earnest. And FE can make all of those destructive dynamics go away, almost overnight. And almost our entire species lives in denial, much of it willful. That has been the most surreal part of my journey. But from what I saw on my odyssey, I know that it would not take many people to wake up, at all, to initiate that transition to an environmentally-harmless, economically abundant global civilization. But it requires what I and others have called sentience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

Becoming sentient is not easy, and humanity is still working on it, but I doubt there is little middle ground between becoming truly sentient and wiping ourselves out while taking most of the ecosystems with us.

This thread the past few months has been devoted to laying out the “curriculum” that I plan to teach to as many as can learn it. I also don’t want to be the “teacher,” but more like a fellow traveler who may have only a small head start on those I hope to attract to this material, and others can take it further. If this is dependent on the vision and effort of one person, it will fail. With FE, the nuts-and-bolts of turning Earth into a paradise the likes the planet has never seen before are actually pretty easy, and are actually already here, but are kept under wraps by Godzilla and friends. If enough of us go deep and develop the proper awareness, making it happen would be easy and even fun.

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

sandy
28th September 2012, 23:32
[ If enough of us go deep and develop the proper awareness, making it happen would be easy and even fun.

Couldn't agree more Wade :)

Limor Wolf
29th September 2012, 11:50
Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " The hunter-gatherer lifestyle is humanity’s oldest, and it quickly drove all large animals to extinction wherever they did not learn to avoid humans"

This is understood.


Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " The rise of humanity likely also drove all other humanoid species to extinction"

Here I am stuck, To what other humanoid species are you refering to ?



Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " I also don’t want to be the “teacher,” but more like a fellow traveler who may have only a small head start on those I hope to attract to this material, and others can take it further. If this is dependent on the vision and effort of one person, it will fail"

Bad news - You have the fortune (or 'misfortune, depends how you look at it:) to have the brilliancy and analytical skills and peripheral vision that is kind of rare. That must feel lonesome at times, waiting for others to catch up, therefore, you sit almost alone on the top of the mountain with your understandings (a few others are on top of other summits, but not with the sign 'FE - solutions' written on them, maybe Adam Trombly is around somewhere ?) , Perhaps it would not be realistic to hope that someone will get into your shoes, the size is quite enormouse, not that I assume that you would expect that.

Good news - Several people gathered at the bottom of the mountain, each from their own spot, others are watching, maybe working on their fitness, maybe making up their minds on how to conquer this mountain, many are busy charging with bayonets and spears, those who own a binoculars can spot you, way up, and ask themselvs," how did he get there ?", and you throw ropes down to help people reach the summit. well, it is bound to succeed, and at some point (maybe not tomorrow..) you will be joined by others, slowly and surely, and a path will be paved and others will climb, maybe not professional mountain climbers, but lambs and goats that found their way to the top.

Just one favour please, Give us a minute to catch our breath before we are being requested to sing.
(words and melody is slowly forming in our heads during our climb )


With Love,

Limor

Wade Frazier
29th September 2012, 17:50
Hi Limor:

Thanks. The dominant theory today is that Homo sapiens evolved in Africa and eventually migrated to every continent. Homo erectus migrated from Africa nearly two million years ago, and spread into Europe and Asia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus#Origin

There is even a theory that Homo erectus evolved in Asia and migrated to Africa, but that is the very minority theory. All of the pre-homo fossils have been found in Africa, and there is no doubt in anthropologist circles that humans came from the same line that led to chimpanzees. Homo erectus is the first humanoid (or, if we want to be scientifically specific, we can call them hominid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominid_(term) and other variant terms) species that undoubtedly practiced the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Homo erectus practiced the first social act that separated the human line from all other animals, the control of fire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus#Use_of_fire

Richard Wrangham has argued that the human line could not have migrated beyond the trees in Africa if it had not mastered fire, so he argues for pushing the control of fire back to two million years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn4

which led to the appearance of Homo erectus. Whatever the truth is, Homo erectus controlled fire at least several hundred thousand years ago, and a member of the human family that had weapons and the control of fire would have been a formidable species, very unlikely to go extinct – humans are survivors, and their toolkit and intelligence allowed them to conquer Earth. The widespread predominance of Homo erectus led to the multi-regional hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans

The multi-regional hypothesis is the very minority position today, and genetics testing has pointed to an African origin of all humans today. This was first established in 1987, and there has been little controversy ever since. It looks like modern humans evolved in Africa and began migrating from Africa about 60K years ago. And when those humans began to migrate from Africa, all other human species soon became extinct, Neanderthals and Homo erectus specifically:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans

It looks like there was some interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans, but the superiority of intelligence and the toolkit of modern humans was likely the deciding factor. If we return to that biological dictum: “…when two similar populations use the same resources, the one with the greater carrying capacity always wins”

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=546922&highlight=carrying+capacity#post546922

the higher carrying capacity of modern humans over Neanderthals and Homo erectus likely carried the day. They were able to more effectively exploit the ecosystems’ energy resources. After modern humans appeared, the Neanderthals’ territory shrank, and the last ones found so far were on the southern tip of what is Spain today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_extinction_hypotheses

The research and controversy continues, but I am going to have a hard time believing that the appearance of modern humans just randomly coincided with the extinction of all of its competitors. It is far likelier than humans “displaced” those competitors who did not have the brain and toolkit that modern humans did. A recent theory is that anatomically modern humans near Europe interbred with Neanderthals and received a genetic benefit that the humans that migrated to Australia did not:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=539260&highlight=skull#post539260

The Australian aborigines were isolated from the rest of humanity for tens of thousands of years, it appears, as the humans of the Western Hemisphere were isolated for at least 10,000 years (and Tasmanians were isolated for about 8K years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmanian_Aborigines#Before_European_settlement). And when Europeans arrived, they drove all of those peoples to the verge of extinction, with many tribes in fact going extinct, with the aboriginal Tasmanians going extinct within a century of the British invasion.

The only recent human-line species that may have gone extinct without a little help from its cousins was that “hobbit” species that may have gone extinct because of a volcanic holocaust:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis#Recent_survival

But to argue that the appearance of humans randomly coincided with the disappearance of its competitors is similar to the argument that the entire world’s large animals suddenly disappearing when humans arrived was another happy coincidence (except for where animals that lived where humans evolved and learned to avoid them, in Africa and Asia, although many species on those continents also went extinct soon after modern humans arrived on the scene http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Africa_and_Asia).

I consider all of the non-human reasons for all of those extinctions to be weak and surprisingly blinkered. Of course, the human ego does not like admitting what is increasingly obvious in our past, and what is still happening, but on a greatly accelerated scale today. Today, one-quarter of Earth’s mammal species and one-eighth of Earth’s bird species face extinction in my lifetime:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2000325.stm

Again, on the geological timescale, that is not even the blink of an eye, but more like the time it takes for light to cross a room. These prodigious extinctions are happening within a human lifetime, which has never happened before. I understand the urgency of the environmentalists, but the way they are trapped in scarcity-based thinking is really sad to see. They may be the very last group to get on the FE and abundance train, which leads to the rest of your post.

Would humans keep driving everything to extinction if there was no economic reason for doing so? That is really the crux of the conundrum that I see. For those that have a highly negative view of humanity, we are some kind of malevolent cancer that is bent on evil. The center of my argument is that if people were not living in scarcity and could comprehend abundance, their awesome destruction of the planet and each other would come to an end. Oh, there will be a transition, which is why I advocate that peacekeeping force of grandmothers to keep the delusional Young Warriors in line:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

but once the semi-sentient masses can actually see what abundance means:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

it really should not take them all that long to wake up, but they aren’t going to wake up until they can see it. If there is any “law” of “human nature,” it is that one, IMO. It will be up to a tiny fraction to make it happen, just like with all of history’s big breakthroughs. Modern physics rides on only a few broad shoulders. Because scarcity has been humanity’s daily reality for millions of years, it is deeply baked and almost nobody today can really understand abundance, and folks like Godzilla are artificially keeping humanity in thrall to fear and scarcity, because that is all they know, too; so it is with the Dark Path.

It will literally require a gathering of saints, or a larger collection of sentient lambs, to get us over the hump. All Earthly groups today are operating in fear and scarcity, and that is why I saw that Levels 6 to 11 are doomed, because they are all based on fear, at their root:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

although some are more subtly based on fear than others are. We can only get there through love, not fear. That is really the central crux of the FE conundrum, and a lesson that I learned the hard way long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

and if everybody had to learn it how I did, there would only be a handful of ragged survivors that were crippled and nursing their wounds, of the few who survived the experience.

Again, I am not looking for heroes, not the kind that Dennis is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

but those who can lay aside their scarcity-based conditioning long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance. That has never been seen before, other than a lone voice here and there in the wilderness, or done in some Peter Pan New Agey way that is in no way practical (or a harem-building and money-making exercise at its heart), and I believe that such a group of people that can achieve sufficient heart-centered sentience can be a catalyst in ways that even I can barely imagine. Yes, Limor, I am in no rush to get people singing. This path is certainly teaching me patience. :)

Well, time for chores. More Rome posts coming soon.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
30th September 2012, 03:56
.... The center of my argument is that if people were not living in scarcity and could comprehend abundance, their awesome destruction of the planet and each other would come to an end. Oh, there will be a transition, which is why I advocate that peacekeeping force of grandmothers to keep the delusional Young Warriors in line ........
I am not looking for heroes, not the kind that Dennis is:
.....
but those who can lay aside their scarcity-based conditioning long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance. That has never been seen before, other than a lone voice here and there in the wilderness, or done in some Peter Pan New Agey way that is in no way practical (or a harem-building and money-making exercise at its heart), and I believe that such a group of people that can achieve sufficient heart-centered sentience can be a catalyst in ways that even I can barely imagine. Yes, Limor, I am in no rush to get people singing. This path is certainly teaching me patience. :)

Well, time for chores. More Rome posts coming soon.

Best,

Wade

Wade, thanks for your vision, and your astute observation and summation of our situation. I have a sincere question:

Where do you want us (those of us following your thread) to go, and what you you want us to do with this vision ? How can we, as a group, be instrumental in bringing genuine abundance into peoples' awareness, without starting a new-age prosperity movement mk II ?

I'm making great strides in holding a future world vision in my heart, but as I said before, I don't see it coming to fruition within my lifetime. (I was in the Philippines in August, where the entire population (103 million) is deliberately kept in poverty and conditioned to accept it as their lot in life That's a whole country, and they are nowhere near as poverty-minded as the Peruvians.)

I'm quite comfortable with the idea of holding a vision for posterity, but I also realise I want to DO something, even if it's just to sow the seeds in enough minds.

Are you happy for us to discuss ideas on this thread ?

Thank you ;)

Limor: That last post was lovely, you almost made me cry !!!!!

Ol' Roy
30th September 2012, 05:58
Hi Wade.

You may have touched on this several hundreds posts ago.

I am originally from Eastern Kentucky. I paid my way through college working in the coal mine.
I have 2 brothers who are still working the business. They have been doing this for 30 years

Things are not looking good for them right now. Kentucky is one of the poorest states .

I'm all for "free" energy, but what do we do about the people left behind?

I fervently follow your posts. I just wish there was a gentle answer for those left behind. Not in the USA right now!

Limor Wolf
30th September 2012, 14:22
Hi Ol' Roy ,


"I'm all for "free" energy, but what do we do about the people left behind?"

The word "free" can be written without its quatation marks, it really IS free.

The wonderful thing about FE is that no one will be left behind. Free energy is something real and tangible as opposed to an abstract concept like (for example) - ascension, that usually involves a select "chosen" few, The revolutionary thing about free energy and the reason that it is so much repressed and compressed is because it will release the world from its many lesions and all human beings have the potential to benefit from it. Just imagine a clean air and clean oceans...
It is our only lifeline for now, and there is enough life jackets for everyone, whether they will chose to be a part of this place, of course.


-----------------------------

As I struggle with reading the famous -' Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance' in English, I found the following passage which I thought is worth copying here:


" In the temple of science are many mansions... and various indeed are they that dwell therein and the motives that have led them there.

Many take to science out of a joyful sense of superior intellectual power, science is their own special sport to which they look for vivid experience and the satisfaction of ambition, many others are to be found in the temple who have offered the products of their brains on this altar for purely utilitaraian purpose. were an angel of the Lord to come and drive all the people belonging to these two categories out of the temple, it would be noticeably emptier but there would still be some men of both present and past times left inside... if the types we have just expelled were the only types there were, the temples would never have existed any more than one can have a wood consisting of nothing but creepers... those who have found favor with the angel... are somewhat odd, uncommunicative, solitary fellows, really less like each other than the hosts of the rejected.

What has brought them to the temple... no single answer will cover... escape from everyday life, with its painful crudity and hopeless dreariness, from the fetters of one's own shifting desires. A finely tempered nature longs to escape from his noisy cramped surroundings into the silence of the high mountains where the eye ranges freely through the still pure air and fondly traces out the restful contours apparently built for eternity."

This passage is from a 1918 speech by a young German scientist named Albert Einstein.

Wade Frazier
30th September 2012, 14:25
Hi Mariposafe and Ol’ Roy:

Thank you very much for your questions. They are important, and are getting at the heart of what I am doing. First, Ol’ Roy, with FE, the idea is that nobody is left behind, other than those who simply want to live in fear and scarcity rather than love and abundance, and I doubt there will be many of those, once they can actually comprehend it. Technically, it will be easy to provide everybody FE and economic abundance, with no harm to the ecosphere, if it can make it past humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression. However, and this segues into Mariposafe’s question, there are not going to be many people, relatively, who end up leading humanity to FE and abundance. I only seek 0.0001% of the global population, and I believe it will be enough, but there still might not be that many people who can get it, but I am trying to find out. The cognitive and emotional leap is simply too great for the vast majority of people to make at this time, without being able to see and experience FE. For those few who get beyond the denial of FE (Levels 1 to 3 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1), and get beyond the fear of Level 5, nearly everybody who wants to “do something” falls into Levels 6 to 11, where they try to drag their scarcity-based baggage with them. But their scarcity-based baggage drags them down instead. There are very good reasons why this is called a conundrum:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

I don’t know if I am the first person to call it a conundrum, but it is a term that Brian O also used late in his life. The issue of FE, its organized suppression, the unawareness and denial of the masses, and the hopeless efforts of virtually everybody who has ever tried to “do something” is the thorniest problem that I know of. Combine that with the fact that humanity’s current energy acquisition practices are quickly destroying the planet and could well make Earth uninhabitable in the near future, and how FE can immediately end those destructive practices, as well as turn Earth into a paradise:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

and it is surreal that I am the only person that I know of who is trying to do what I am, and it brings up the issue of whether humanity is really a sentient species. There should be thousands or millions of Wades out there, but there is only one of me, I am sorry to say. As you might imagine, this puts a bit of pressure on me, and while I sympathize with the impatience of many who have viewed this thread (impatience is my Achilles heel http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading), I know that impatience is also not going to get us anywhere. When I see another Lone Ranger inventor trying to scale the ramparts, with his patents and money-raising efforts, I shake my head in sadness, as he heads toward his doom (or the Golden Handcuffs, if he is lucky), unwittingly luring newbies to their doom with him, and it always dismays me when newcomers think that the latest inventor of the hour has the magic answer, when it has already failed literally tens of thousands of times. Godzilla has the suppression down to a science, but the biggest problem, by far, is the inertia and lack of personal integrity in John Q. Public, and I learned that one the hard way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

The enemy is us, not Godzilla. He is playing his role, but in the big picture, our destiny is really ours, and the semi-sentient state of humanity is a chosen state. Ol’ Roy, you might be familiar with Joe Bageant, who died recently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bageant

and his last book, Rainbow Pie, may have been his best. Dennis came from a “white trash” background, and I also have it in my heritage, those Borderer Scot ancestors that the English used as the vanguard of invasion of both Ireland and North America, who eventually became hillbillies, migrant farmworkers, and America’s preferred infantryman. In Dennis’s public work, he often portrayed himself as somebody who might not wear shoes some days, and he did plenty of that “stupid talk” in his public appearances.

In Bageant’s Rainbow Pie, he wrote about going home, after years of being a journalist all over America, seeing the so-called liberal mindset (he did not like “liberals,” and I understood – liberals are like house slaves, looking down on the field slaves who do the hard work in this nation), and he remarked on the paranoid, conspiratorial mindset of his people, and how truly stupid and crazy their worldview was. Joe remarked on one friend who actually attended college with him, but went home sooner, and as Joe talked with him, the guy spouted all the stupid hillbilly-isms, and Joe sat there, kind of stunned. Joe knew that the man was every bit as intelligent as he was, but the man mindlessly repeated the most stupid hillbilly stuff. Joe realized that the man had abdicated his sentience in order to fit in. I have seen a similar dynamic over the years, where people who I know are as smart as or smarter than me say some of the stupidest things I have ever heard. It took me a long time to understand, but they abdicated their sentience so they would fit in and participate in the abomination that is Western civilization with a clear conscience, or so they think. Intentional ignorance and stupidity, to justify exploitation and fill one’s belly, makes for a fitful afterlife, let us say. That dynamic is also why I say that sentience begins in the heart.

That all is the long way of saying that what I am trying to do is get enough people who can begin to think comprehensively. Without a comprehensive perspective, and it will necessarily require some scientific literacy, people fail to see the central importance of energy in our world, and they are quickly distracted by all manner of noise that does not add up to anything. People only paid attention to Dennis when he threatened to pull the quadrillion dollar rabbit out of his hat:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

and when he was wiped out or he failed, they went back to their TV sets, watching NASCAR, the NFL, soap operas, and Dancing with the Stars. Those people are completely useless at this stage of the game, and it took me a while to finally understand. But there are many different approaches that are useless at this stage, including Lone Ranger inventors, would-be FE entrepreneurs, PR flaks, and so on – those that litter Levels 6 to 11. After many years in the milieu, both in the middle of the fray, standing at Ground Zero when they called in the airstrikes, and watching from a distance, I decided to take a different approach, which you can see the baby steps of on this thread, but the effort really has not begun yet. When I saw how quickly an Ilie could get the gist of what I am attempting, it gave me hope that rounding up those several thousand people might be achievable in my lifetime. I also know that Godzilla is fractured:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

and if I had to bet, I would say that the outcome will be decided at the Godzilla level, but I am not going to sit around and wait for it, and the nugget of heart-centered sentience that I am trying to amass may also be critical in leading humanity to an enlightened implementation of FE, instead of the ways that many fear, such as weaponization or strip mining the planet – both are mindless reactions to FE. I think that once stupidity stops becoming a viable survival mechanism, you will see people get a lot smarter, quickly.

I hope to make a Rome post today.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th September 2012, 14:31
Hi Limor:

I saw your post after I posted mine, and you can tell that we sing the same song about who will be “left behind.” :) That Einstein quote was typical Uncle Albert, and thanks, but please see if you can change the spelling of “angles” to “angels,” so our readers more easily understand it.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
30th September 2012, 14:47
Hi Wade,

I noticed :) , and corrected. My appologies to the angels..

Wade Frazier
1st October 2012, 02:40
Hi All:

Sorry, but I did not get done what I was hoping to, so no Rome post today, but more are coming soon!

Well, maybe one link on Rome:

http://www.roman-empire.net/articles/article-018.html

It is pretty good, but money is only the accounting system and is not real. Currency debasement and the like are symptoms of economic decline, not causes. The accountants never really run the show, as I can attest as an accountant. :)

Homer-Dixon’s work:

http://theupsideofdown.com/

focuses on Rome’s declining energy return on investment (AKA EROI), while Perlin’s A Forest Journey:

http://www.amazon.com/Forest-Journey-Role-Development-Civilization/dp/0674308921

focuses on the EROI of Rome, but from the perspective of Rome’s greatest energy resource of the day, wood, and how Rome burned through its forests, and the deforestation and resulting farming on the cleared lands is what sustained Rome, but it had to keep increasing its reach to raid those resources far and wide, until it could no longer sustain itself. I’ll get into some of the details in future posts.

Good night.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st October 2012, 15:23
Hi:

The phenomenon of Rome is so big that I can’t tackle it all at once, not by any means. So, I will go after aspects of it in various posts, and I will start with the theme that I have been on since Sumer, and how Rome related to its forests and land. Rome rose thousands of years after Sumer, after the Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations, after Egypt rose, after the Phoenicians. Rome was kind of a latecomer to the game.

As I mentioned earlier, Athens tried to invade Sicily, for wood:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543474&highlight=sicily#post543474

as they ran out of wood on Greece. During those days, Rome was heavily forested, with fir trees, as hard as that may be to believe today. By that time, the forests around Rome were about the only places left in Southern Europe that could provide the wood needed to build battleships. The hills of Rome were named after the trees on them, such as laurel and willow, and other Roman spots were named after beech and oak. The hills and mountains around Rome abounded with fir and silver fir.

What is today called Anzio:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzio

was called Antium in Roman times, and the tribe that lived there escaped a Roman army by hiding in the woods. Just south of Rome were the Avernian woods, which meant “birdless” in Greek, because the woods were too thick for birds to fly in them. Just north of Rome lay the Ciminian forest, which was so thick that before 310 B.C., no trader dared enter it. When a Roman expedition planned to enter it, it created a sensation in Rome. The trip into the dense forest seemed so dangerous that the Roman Senate forbade it, but the expedition continued anyway. The early tales of Rome all agree that the original Romans were people of the forest.

As Rome grew, the forests gradually disappeared. In 250 B.C. Rome was battling with Carthage for Mediterranean supremacy. At that time, peasant agriculture began to give way to large ranches and farms, and deforestation greatly accelerated. As Pliny noted, the most coveted agricultural land was that of newly-cleared forest, before the soils became depleted by plow agriculture. Contemporary observers noted how the forests were retreating up the mountainsides, taking the wildlife with them. Wood began to become expensive and scarce in those last days of the Republic. Rome became a de-facto empire with its defeat and destruction of Carthage and Corinth in 146 B.C., but it took a century of civil wars to finally replace the Republic with an imperial dictatorship.

During the first century B.C., during the civil wars, the conservation of the forests became a state issue, with Cicero debating it in the Senate, particularly when a politician implored the state to sell one of its forests to private interests for exploitation. The conservationist stance of Cicero did not prevail, however, and Rome kept devastating its forests and conquering its way to more wood. The Romans did not only conquer Greece and Carthage, but it conquered northward, with today’s Tuscany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuscany

and the Po River Valley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Valley

wrested from its inhabitants during those late days of the Republic. The Po River Valley was inhabited by Gaul tribes, people of the deep forest. By the time of Julius Caesar, the forests of Germany and North Africa were the subjects of Roman fascination, with forest primeval romanticizing of its inhabitants.

Livy, who wrote during the reign of Augustus,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livy

noted the great surprise of his contemporaries when informed that the Ciminian forest was once as thick as the forests of Germany. And just like happened all over the Old World, the Tiber was the “log lane” that supplied Rome with its wood, and Rome’s harbor at the mouth of the Tiber, at Ostia, became silt-filled and useless. Claudius tried to remedy the situation by building a new harbor two miles away, but it quickly became silt-filled, too. Trajan tried to revive the new harbor, but failed, and then built a new harbor at Civitavecchia, fifty miles from Rome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civitavecchia

Its port of Ravenna on the Po also became silt-filled, and Ravenna today sits several miles inland on the silt plain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenna

At the time of Jesus, Rome had a population of about a million people, and their energy needs were prodigious. Rome had 900 baths at one time, with each one requiring hundreds of tons of wood per year to keep the temperature at the Roman ideal. And the grand homes of the elite had central heating. In the last days of the Republic, glass windows were invented, and glass blowing in the next century. Like the Classic Greeks did, as the wood ran out, the Romans began to design their homes with a southward orientation to capture solar energy, especially with their new glass windows.

Great amounts of wood were needed to make glass, ceramics, lime, bricks, bronze, and iron, and in the early days of the Empire, those industries fled Italy to locate in today’s Southern France, particularly the Lower Rhone Valley. It was because there was no more wood in Italy to exploit. Rome invaded Cyprus during the Late Republic, which had recovered its forests from the Minoan times:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543474&viewfull=1#post543474

and two hundred years of Roman rule completely denuded Cyprus, and the copper smelting industry once again collapsed. Just one of the Roman slag heaps found on Cyprus would have taken the burning of about 500 million pine trees to produce.

By the end of the second century A.D., the glass and ceramic industries that moved to Southern France had burned though the forests and had to move again, that time to Belgium and Germany. By 300 A.D., the glass industry in South France was extinct. The iron industry had to flee to the Jura Mountains:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jura_Mountains

When Rome invaded the British Isles, about the first thing Rome did was begin to mine and smelt iron on the coast. That quickly decimated the coastal forests, and the operations fled inland, and it took a century for the iron industry in the British inland forest to denude hundreds of square miles of forest, and then the industry collapsed.

Roman architecture noticeably changed over the years as the wood disappeared. Stone began to replace wood in architecture, and the bricks were made more cheaply, with less fuel used to fire the bricks.

The sandarac tree in Northern Africa became highly coveted for Roman furniture, with a sandarac table at one time fetching seventeen pounds of gold. By that time, there was very little agriculture engaged in in Latium, which was the region surrounding Rome, as the soils had all been wrecked. Northern Africa became the granary of Rome. The great crime of Anthony was seizing the fields of the Nile delta. Once Anthony and Cleopatra were eliminated, the Nile delta’s farms became the personal possession of the Emperor, and when the barges failed to come from Africa to feed the idle masses in Rome, riots ensued. The same deforestation, siltation, and desertification happened all over the Roman Empire, as its methods cut out the legs from under it. In imperial parlance, the Roman Empire was guilty of imperial overreach. The Peace of Rome that Tacitus wrote so charmingly about:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=556408&highlight=tacitus#post556408

was a period of imperial consolidation, but without plundering new lands, as its methods were anything but sustainable, the Empire slowly declined. As it declined, Rome enacted what Homer-Dixon called “ruthless extraction,” where the free peasants were turned into serfs to work the land for Rome.

The so-called peace of Rome ended in 180 A.D. with the death of Claudius:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_romana

with the Roman treasury empty. The bread-and-circus sops were in short supply, and a century of mayhem ensued. Two emperors, Aurelian and Diocletian, tried to hold the disintegrating empire together during the third century A.D., and the era of ruthless extraction began. The currency had been debased so far by that time that taxes were no longer collected in money, but in food. Diocletian created the first state budget. A couple of emperors later (emperors were almost always assassinated in those halcyon days, almost never dying of natural causes), Constantine tried a new gambit – making a marginal cult the imperial religion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#masada

But that also failed to hold the Empire together. As Rome crumbled, the seat of the Empire moved to Constantinople:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople

By 500 A.D., Rome’s population was half of what it was during the Peace of Rome, and by 600 A.D., its population was 100K, to bottom out at 15K by 1100 AD. The forests of Western Europe recovered from the centuries of Roman rule, to get deforested again during the great city-building period of the late medieval period:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#cities

That was the energy dynamic of the trajectory of Rome, and as Rome could no longer feed itself, the people died and fled. Germanic tribes then conquered Western Europe. The rise of Islam came not long after the collapse of Rome, and Islamic armies invaded Spain, wresting it from the Visigoths. The Jews lived in their Golden Age in Europe in Islamic Spain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#moors

The Catholic Church burned all of the Classic Greek works as pagan, but the Greek works were preserved in Islamic libraries, to begin to reenter European culture with the conquest of Toledo by the Christian armies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

Thus began the rise of reason and science again in the West, but I get ahead of myself. The next posts will explore other aspects of Rome, many of which have keen relevance to today.

Off to work and a long next six weeks.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
1st October 2012, 20:13
Is there any one society on earth that has ever managed to live in harmony with nature ? or at least one that has not significantly adversely affected its surroundings ? I find this historical review a bit depressing because there is one conclusion that stands out, and that is the common denominator which is us human beings. The real battle, therefore is not for FE as much as it is for sentience, because, without it not even the best of defense attornies would be able to explain to why not eliminate this constant hazard.
Sorry for this non positive expression :(

Ilie Pandia
1st October 2012, 20:53
Hi Limor,

The positive backside of your observations is to show that Free Energy is the only way to go about living in harmony with nature. Without the implementation of Free Energy someone will have to pay our energy costs of living. And so the strangest thing is to see environmentalists fight against free energy for fear we may use it to trash the planet even faster, but they fail completely to see the positive transformation that Free Energy would bring about.

Wade's story goes to show how the rise and fall of energy availability has influenced deeply the standard of living for humans. High energy meant a luxuriant life style for those that benefited and when the energy was no longer available the civilization collapsed. The problem is that without Free Energy we are stuck in this cycle of burning the Energy reserves (that seems to be energy captured from the Sun), then collapsing while new energy reserves form, then doing it all over again. (We don't actually consume any energy, but just transform it info forms we cannot use at this time).

FE would break this cycle once and for all. But the problem is that free energy would also bring to an end the power structure that rules the planet right now. So it will not be allowed in the public domain, unless it can be tightly controlled and monitored as to maintain a scarcity based reality and therefore maintain the status quo.

Because FE technology exists already, the "abundant living" is the reality while the "scarcity living" is the illusion we are all so busy believing in, and actually defending.

Wade's energy story is long and not so pretty! But we have to really really get it! If we want to be able to see through the veil and not be distracted by the next show. It is a requirement to developing a comprehensive picture of the world. And once you truly see it, you can never go back.

Limor Wolf
1st October 2012, 21:45
Hi Ilie,

Thanks, you gave some very good reasoning! I agree, FE is about to bring a revolutionary change even beyond what we can predict and it will reroute the course of events, of course, we as people need to change our state of mind to what is possible. you are right, we are currently being told what is possible, or to be more percise, what is NOT, but the possibilities are in effect endless. the technology already exists and its development holds a promise that was never known to humanity before, it is about time that our planet earth will get its upgrade for the sake of everyone's involved. actually, coming to think of it, not even the most toughest prosecutor can argue otherwise... Thanks again.

Case closed :)

Melinda
1st October 2012, 21:58
...Because FE technology exists already, the "abundant living" is the reality while the "scarcity living" is the illusion we are all so busy believing in, and actually defending.

Wade's energy story is long and not so pretty! But we have to really really get it! If we want to be able to see through the veil and not be distracted by the next show. It is a requirement to developing a comprehensive picture of the world. And once you truly see it, you can never go back.

I love it when you're flowing Ilie :)

I feel your frustrations Limor, but it all can and will come together as we learn from the past and paint the future with light with our combined vision. You're here, as Limor, right now, bringing something new and unique to the equation at this time. In fact now seems like as good a time as any to quote one of my favourite Eaglespirit posts...


...free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, free energy, FREE ENERGY!
THINKING IT WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN NOW!
...with unconditional love, selflessness, wisdom and action as the core rhythms of epic change in Consciousness!

Robert J. Niewiadomski
1st October 2012, 22:24
Hi

The razing of forests (or environment or our life support system) for energy is so deep ingrained in us that even imaginary worlds are contaminated with it. After all it is the mirror we reflect in...

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I think Tolkien saw that scarcity dynamics and portrayed it as Sauron and his minions... Why they not used all that magical powers (FE) in Sarumans hands to power the war machine? Such a wise wizard as Saruman would surely find a powerful spell to accomplish that. Instead they followed their scarcity program and used up all the forest around Isengard to supply energy (fires)... And have dug a very deep hole to get to the ore for smelting...

There is a hellish method in real world to blow off top of the mountain with tons of explosives and then truck away coal without digging underground. Until they not run out of mountaintops to blow off the EROI of such an enterpise is pretty big :( Horrible stuff :(
http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/news/2007/09/mountaintop_mining?currentPage=all
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountaintop_removal_mining


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Wade Frazier
2nd October 2012, 04:51
Hi:

As I have stated before, does Ilie ever get it. When I see posts like his, I just want to stand aside and let him go.

On the energy being used, a good way to see it is that before we mastered fire, we only consumed solar energy that fell to Earth during the lifetime of what we ate, which was usually only a few years at most. When we began to burn trees, we began to widen our energy consumption horizon to a hundred years and more of stored sunlight. Tapping into fossil fuels meant using solar energy that fell on Earth many millions of years ago. I doubt that we will be able to use much sunlight energy that is billions of years old. :) FE is a horse of a different color, not something that we have to wrest from the ecosystem or Earth’s belly. As Ilie says, it would break our destructive cycle once and for all, if we can survive the transition. I’ll take that chance.

Yes Limor, the point is that humanity has pretty much never lived sustainably, and “sustainable” means a constant exploitation of the ecosystems for human benefit. With FE, there won’t even be any need to do that. As I have written plenty, one of the stars that I steer by is this reality that Roads peeked into:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

One way that the human journey can be looked at is how Michael describes it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

Michael has stated that there are a million ensouled species in our galaxy, and that as an ensouled species evolves its awareness through the lessons of the physical plane, of those that can manipulate their environment, a third of the time they drive themselves to extinction. Of that third of the time, two-thirds of the time it is due to destroying their environment, and one-third of the time it is due to warfare. So, in the Michael perspective, the abyss that humanity stands on the edge of is pretty normal. :) We are at that moment of truth now, where we will turn the corner or wipe ourselves out while taking a lot of the ecosphere with us. I am trying what I can to avoid the abyss, obviously, but more than that, I want to see if we can make this place look and feel heavenly. Michael has also stated, in his dispassionate perspective, that if we fail to turn the corner, our souls will likely finish our incarnation cycles in a life form that cannot manipulate its environment, such as a whale or ensouled tree. I don’t know what to make of all of that, other than to say that it makes a certain amount of sense. We all reap what we sow, and I am sowing all I can in this life, and maybe the reaping is a ways off. I don’t know about all that, but what I do know is that the technologies exist today to easily turn this planet into something like what Roads saw, give or take a few years. :)

Hi AWP and Robert. LOTR is a big subject, obviously. It is an FE allegory in part, as are many epic fantasies such as The Wheel of Time. What do we use our power for?

To amend my post on the Roman forests, late in the Empire, during the 300s, there was a fleet of sixty boats devoted to bringing wood to fuel the baths of Rome. Most of their wood runs were to Africa.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
2nd October 2012, 06:18
.... Free Energy is the only way to go about living in harmony with nature. Without the implementation of Free Energy someone will have to pay our energy costs of living.


Bingo !

And FE is also therefore the only way out of the slavery model

Wade Frazier
2nd October 2012, 14:29
Hi Mariposafe:

The rising standards of living of the industrial era made chattel slavery obsolete, which was in turn dependent on the energy of fossil fuels, which was coal in those early days. In boating, sails replaced muscles as the power generator for transportation, to be displaced in its turn by steam engines powered by the energy of fossil fuels. When muscles were no longer the primary vehicle for generating power, there were far-reaching economic consequences. But the early days of industrialization were also hellish in their own way, which led to the work of Marx and others.

Exploitation did not entirely disappear, not by any means, but the rising tide of higher standards of living made the harshest institutions obsolete. From a soul’s perspective, perhaps, that all made for a great opportunity to explore suffering and the dark path, for whatever reasons there are for such a game, which seems pretty sickening from where I stand. The people running the world today have been dominated by dark pathers for a long time. They get off on human misery, and destroying the planet as a side-effect of their power games is an acceptable price to pay. As I have written, cooler heads may prevail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

and that disenchanted majority was once a disenchanted minority, and I have little doubt that members of that group are the people who gave my friend this show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

The potential of FE is keenly understood in their circles, which is why the lid is kept so tightly on FE. Nothing else has the potential to disrupt the cycles of exploitation and destruction that have marked the human journey until now. The bizarre part is that Godzilla and friends know this deeply, while the masses are oblivious. That is part of the conundrum.

Briefly, back to Rome before I run off to work. Going back to Sumer:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554340&viewfull=1#post554340

slavery, deforestation, siltation, salination – they were all key aspects of those early civilizations. Warfare escalated into genocidal affairs. The Old Testament documents how civilizations comported themselves long after Sumer declined (Abraham migrated from that region to what was called Canaan long ago), and slaughtering entire peoples was standard operating procedure, as well as enslaving the survivors. King Solomon did that, and to the credit of the Jewish people, there was at least debate on the propriety of enslaving conquered peoples:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#joshua

Even in “democratic” Athens, slaves outnumbered citizens. So, when Rome arose, enslaving the conquered was normal. The Romans certainly did not invent that dynamic, but they took it to new heights. The death toll of the gladiatorial “games” was a million people:

http://necrometrics.com/romestat.htm

to provide entertainment to Rome’s masses. But those games did not begin until a ways into the trajectory of Rome, and I want to begin the Roman tale near the beginning.

Rome began as a kingdom, just like all the other civilizations of the time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Kingdom

and remained that way for about 250 years. It was eventually overthrown by the elites who wanted bigger pieces of the pie. Battling elites is where many of the innovations came from that led to today’s nominally democratic governments. The Magna Carta was a document that formally declared the outcome of battles between elites, where the oligarchy limited royal power:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Kingdom

Rome was one of the earliest of what are called republics today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic#Classical_republics

Sparta preceded Rome in that sense. Sparta became a republic that was centered on equality among citizens (slaves were not citizens), military prowess, and austerity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sparta#Proto-historic_period

Rome eventually overthrew the monarchy and established a republic, although the chief office was called a dictator:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Kingdom#Public_offices_after_the_monarchy

who was essentially a king with a limited term, like the American president today. :) The Roman Republic only appointed a dictator when emergencies required it. In the republic, public offices could only be held for a year. Those were ways to keep power from becoming concentrated. In practice, the landed aristocracy ran the Republic, but there was theoretical social mobility, and the plebeians eventually weakened the power of the original aristocracy and became aristocrats themselves. And the lowest class of Roman citizen was the proletariat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletarii

which was a term that Marx would later revive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletariat#Usage_in_Marxist_theory

Time for work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd October 2012, 05:43
Hi:

I want to give a nod to other peoples. My focus on Rome right now is because it was once the world’s greatest empire, and had long-lasting influence on the peoples who conquered the world, and the dynamics of Rome can be educational. But while the Empire ruled over a quarter of humanity at its peak, other peoples around the world were also living their lives. However, the dynamics really varied little between all of them, in the big picture, and one example is the Bantu Expansion of about 3,000 years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion

Due to the domestication of plants and animals, and the use of ceramics and iron, which increased their ecological carrying capacity, the Bantu absorbed or displaced many other inhabitants of central and southern Africa. Monarchies appeared, and the Swahili and Zulu empires, and others, eventually formed. The battle of church and state, of elites and commoners, was a familiar dynamic. As usual, the male potentates had enhanced reproductive rights, with their many “wives.”

China is another region that had dynamics of civilization that are familiar. They often had the technological lead over West Asia and Europe, and the rice paddies comprised the world’s most sophisticated agricultural system, and China has long been the world’s most populous region, with India not far behind. China had mountains and deserts separating them from the western peoples, so there was little communication or commerce between them, other than the nomads who lived on horseback, invading the settled regions on the periphery of the steppes. Those invasions were some of the most influential dynamics in human history.

But those peoples, their civilizations, and how they operated were all variations on a theme. Humans were humans, everywhere, and none lived in abundance, but in varying levels of scarcity. The enhanced carrying capacity of a civilization made it dominant over others,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=546922&highlight=carrying+capacity#post546922

and they dominated almost whenever they could. In significant ways, it was little different than great ape social organization. Humans were more sophisticated, and had better tools to wrest energy from the environment, but in the big picture, humans were largely intelligent killer apes that learned to manipulate their environments in previously unprecedented ways. Somewhere along the line, humans seem to have become ensouled, leaving behind, to some degree, the herd awareness that pre-sentient animals possess, if a great deal of mystical material is to be believed. In various corners, the jury is still out on that scenario. I think that we may well be in creator school down here, and the curriculum is anything but easy. :)

I am going to bed now. I will likely be pretty quiet for the rest of the week, fighting fires at my day job.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
4th October 2012, 08:31
Wade, good luck with your job as a fireman, I hope that you will have a very few calls :)

As I read more, it is becoming more clear to me how energy dynamics has brought us to this road junction we are in now, it also emphasizes human behaviours since the time of the development of agriculture where the few began to decide for the many.

Wade's detailed posts also provide an anthropological review, where there is a certain correspondance between the need of some to call the shots and the absolute acceptance and cooperation of the majority of people (always the majority) to not be able to unify and let others dictate their life. a perfect symbiosis, since every dynamic is always a matter of supply and demand. This tendency of ours as human beings will need to change for anyone who feels they have utilized this role playing to the fullest (probably as subservient most times and as someone who enslave at other times).

At this current period it starts to feel like there are quite a few of earth inhabitants who would like to opt out, and more and more are beginning to get the picture.

The human spirit is not intended to be bound and it is still in its infancy when it comes to developing into its true essence.

Robert J. Niewiadomski
4th October 2012, 12:18
Wade, good luck with your job as a fireman, I hope that you will have a very few calls :)

As I read more, it is becoming more clear to me how energy dynamics has brought us to this road junction we are in now, it also emphasizes human behaviours since the time of the development of agriculture where the few began to decide for the many.

Wade's detailed posts also provide an anthropological review, where there is a certain correspondance between the need of some to call the shots and the absolute acceptance and cooperation of the majority of people (always the majority) to not be able to unify and let others dictate their life. a perfect symbiosis, since every dynamic is always a matter of supply and demand. This tendency of ours as human beings will need to change for anyone who feels they have utilized this role playing to the fullest (probably as subservient most times and as someone who enslave at other times).

At this current period it starts to feel like there are quite a few of earth inhabitants who would like to opt out, and more and more are beginning to get the picture.

The human spirit is not intended to be bound and it is still in its infancy when it comes to developing into its true essence.
Hi

Limor, this "need to be policed" addiction stems from the model of rising children on Earth IMHO. We may argue that this is a chicken-egg class of problem. But maybe we should focus on teaching the hen to switch laying square eggs for round ones again? ;)

All children learn by mimicking behavior. Of parents or of peers. Current method implies a superior-subordinate relation based on fear of punishment instead of friendship. Children have always to obey parents. Children have always do as they are told. Children are being accustomed that someone else makes decisions form them. That they are helpless. It is "naturally" accepted for parents to not keep promises. While it is severely punished when children do not keep theirs. Fast forward to the adulthood. Some adults can somehow trick the rest of their peers to play this broken symmetry parent-child game. And we accept broken promises and lies of "our leaders" just as children do. And we all know that in fact we all are equal. This superiority of some is just an illusion projected into adulthood from childhood.

Solution? We need to restore the symmetry of the child-parent relation. It can not happen in a top bottom fashion. It must arise from the hearts of the parents to respect their children. To give them time to learn. To let them make mistakes and teach them how to fix a mistake rather than punishing for it. Yes i know it might end up very expensive. So maybe it have no sense to furnish your house with expensive stuff if you afraid children will destroy it ;) We need to learn to always keep promises (or not make any if it is obvious it cannot be kept), to not lie to children (even in jokes!). To not pretend we know something when in fact we do not. It is better to say "i do not know but i can show you how to find out", isn't it? :)
We can learn from our children how to be better parents and friends with our children. They will then do the same for their own children. And so on. We must let go of our own scarcity to rise children in abundance... Remember that children learn also from each other. And abundance attitude can spread horizontally peer-to-peer. Maybe even in no time. All they need is a positive example. We create our reality. Not the other way... It is Godzilla's magic trick to keep us in this superstition that it is that other way...

This is one way (of probably many others i am not aware of yet) we can "do something" to transcend scarcity game into abundance of love. No need to take to the streets to hang some dark pathers. They too once were children who followed in their adult teachers/parents steps... This is a vicious cycle... It needs to be broken ASAP...

Wade Frazier
4th October 2012, 14:23
Hi Limor and Robert:

There is a relationship between the survival behaviors that you are both referring to and the underlying energetic reality, with the energetic reality dictating the behaviors. Herd behaviors have always had an energy-efficiency root to them, whether it was protection from predation, making flying more energy efficient, better access to food, more energy-efficient access to mates, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_animal_behavior

Herd behaviors have always been a response to energy scarcity, and humans are really no different in that regard. One key point of my work is that human behavior is almost always dictated by the economic reality, which is in turn rooted in the energetic reality. But we are also supposedly a sentient species, so can we consciously choose to create energy abundance? This is the ultimate test of our sentience, IMO, and we will “get it” soon or destroy ourselves. And the social/spiritual conditioning is deep, and yes, it begins in the cradle, as Robert discusses. Elisabeth Kübler Ross used to say that the job of the parents is to emotionally “ruin” their children. There could be something to that, at least for the hellish school that Earth is these days.

I have encountered several mystical teachings that have a similar framework to Michael’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

and I’ll bet it has a certain validity. Michael stated that the best thing for human development is for a human child to be raised in an atmosphere of love, so that a crying child is always held, so that the child learns trust. If it is not learned by age two-to-three, the child will never learn it. That is hard to do when the parents are battling for survival in our hostile world.

The average six-year-old in this world is smarter and more knowledgeable about the human body than anybody on Earth today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

Beings operating from the heart inhabit that reality, and the human potential is reached in ways that most who read it dismiss it as some Peter Pan fantasy. I don’t. I know that the technology to make a world like that feasible already exists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

but the combination of humanity’s mindlessness and its easily manipulation by the dark pathers keeps humanity in a state of artificially-induced scarcity, and that is quickly leading to our doom and the complete destruction of the ecosystems.

That early childhood conditioning from parents is soon complemented by heavy indoctrination into scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

to create mindless people who are easily manipulated. The same conditioning turns young men into soldiers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#method

and as Bucky Fuller stated so astutely long ago, scarcity is the root condition behind those soldiers marching off to war:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

and it is only a more sophisticated version of the territorial battles between hunter-gatherer societies:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=547555&highlight=inuit#post547555

which was only a more sophisticated version of chimpanzee social organization and violence:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=537104&highlight=chimpanzee#post537104

The human ego, however, does not like admitting those truths, because somehow we have risen above the apes and our “primitive” ancestors. Not so much, not really. The invasion and genocide of the peoples of Afghanistan and Iraq by history’s most powerful nation is just another energy grab:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=478002&highlight=gideon#post478002

It is kind of ironic that four thousand years after the bloody decline of Sumer due to its energy acquisition practices:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554340&viewfull=1#post554340

the area was invaded once again over energy scarcity. There is no difference in kind, just in orders of magnitude. The victim game is humanity’s oldest.

As I have stated repeatedly, which I learned through bitter experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

the masses are not going to wake up to energy abundance until it can be demonstrated to them, as Machiavelli noted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

and this is the crux of the conundrum. The conspiracists, structuralists, materialists, and others are of absolutely no use at this stage on the FE issue, as they all think and act like victims:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

It will be up to the extremely few people who have laid aside their fear-based victim mentality and operate from a love-based creator mentality to lead humanity to FE and abundance. At least, that is the route that I am trying out. Nobody ever has before that I know of, and I do not kid myself that those people are going to be easy to find; they are like needles in haystacks.

I am the middle of not only firefighting at work, but am dealing with a family emergency once again, the kind that deals with death and related catastrophes, so a lot is being taken out of me these days. So it is, when light workers try to bring it in this world. It seems to be part of the “deal.” It would be a lot easier if I had no family, and I have almost no family left, but it is part of the price of being here.

More Rome posts coming soon, but it is off to work for now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
4th October 2012, 14:32
Thank you, Robert, your post was beautiful. It is interesting how each of us takes the issues we are discussing here to our own 'place', and with a bit of creativity of the mind, we are contributing to a rich soup indeed!

Yes, I agree, some people relate to the government as their parents, alas, this family structure is no good. Wade is insisting that integrity is the only way to go, it feels as if you are suggesting the same, even between parents - children relations there need to be some equality (and respect). if we take as an allegory, Godzila as a parent, and the masses as the children, then a parent who nurtures his children to be mentally stronger and with more wisdom than he has, will contribute to a prosperous and developed society where the sky is the limit, and where he himself can reap the fruits. But, it seems that wisdom is the keyword here, and when it is lacking... it is lacking.

So, to suggest in a few words what we as society may want to reclaim, it will be : Integrity, wisdom, awarness, creativity, equality and kinship.

CdnSirian
4th October 2012, 14:42
Limor and Robert, very good topics which could be another thread. "Raise children towards an FE/Abundance paradigm". To copy/paste your posts would be a great start to it. What do you think, readers of this thread? It's too big to develop here, and too important to merely glance at, I think. Cheers.

Limor Wolf
4th October 2012, 14:54
Hey CdnSirian, you must be right. I am not a parent, so I will be more than happy to read other member's view's, I was simply using it as an allegory to Robert's very fine post. everyhting is related as it is, but it all, I believe, eventually sums up to one thing: Energy and the direction it flows.



Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " I am the middle of not only firefighting at work, but am dealing with a family emergency once again, the kind that deals with death and related catastrophes, so a lot is being taken out of me these days. So it is, when light workers try to bring it in this world. It seems to be part of the “deal.” It would be a lot easier if I had no family, and I have almost no family left, but it is part of the price of being here.

Family has its advantages and disadvantages. My mother was in hospital this last month and now it is an everyday battle... she suffers from many problems but as I tell her, there is one thing that she needs in order to have the upper hand, and that is to acquire sentience. an awarness to what has brought her to this situation, also taking responsibility on her condition and creating something new with different tools.

But, it might be that love is the only thing that she needs right now, and the only thing I can give.

It is part of the "deal", but the opportunity for growth is especially found in these kind of moments,

Take it easy, Wade! as much as you can..

Limor Wolf
4th October 2012, 17:41
Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " Warfare escalated into genocidal affairs. The Old Testament documents how civilizations comported themselves long after Sumer declined (Abraham migrated from that region to what was called Canaan long ago), and slaughtering entire peoples was standard operating procedure, as well as enslaving the survivors. "


Not really about the energy- Scarcity subject, but following the Roman tales and the discussion above -


Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "There is a relationship between the survival behaviors and the underlying energetic reality, with the energetic reality dictating the behaviors. Herd behaviors have always had an energy-efficiency root to them"


"The land is mine"

A brief history of the land called Israel/Palestine/Canaan/the Levant.
Who's-killing-who :


http://vimeo.com/50531435

http://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/10/01/this-land-is-mine/

Chris Gilbert
4th October 2012, 18:02
Hi Limor and Robert:

I am the middle of not only firefighting at work, but am dealing with a family emergency once again, the kind that deals with death and related catastrophes, so a lot is being taken out of me these days. So it is, when light workers try to bring it in this world. It seems to be part of the “deal.” It would be a lot easier if I had no family, and I have almost no family left, but it is part of the price of being here.

More Rome posts coming soon, but it is off to work for now.

Best,

Wade

Sorry to hear about the family emergencies Wade, I'll be sending you strength!

Melinda
4th October 2012, 20:00
...I am the middle of not only firefighting at work, but am dealing with a family emergency once again, the kind that deals with death and related catastrophes, so a lot is being taken out of me these days. So it is, when light workers try to bring it in this world...

Sending peace and strength to you and yours.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj550/DoodlemakerUK/LightSouls.jpg

Wade Frazier
5th October 2012, 03:23
Thanks Limor, Enishi, and AWP for the thoughts…

Families are a great way to work through karma! :) Because I come from a family of psychics, there has been plenty of “insight” into the family’s karmic relationships. Love and wisdom can heal all, but they are only fleetingly attained on the planet these days. My relationship with my family has been quite a trip. My parents ran away from home together and married on a weekend in Las Vegas, while my father was in boot camp before deployment in one of America’s many imperial efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

I was the first fruit of those youthful follies. I always wanted to be close to the families that my parents fled from. I was always the dutiful grandchild, and lived with my father’s parents a few times, which was a great blessing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

I live where my parents fled from, but my relationships with my family have been a source of more pain than joy, and rarely as close as I hoped they would be. What a long, strange trip it has been. When people commit to the spiritual path, all hell usually breaks loose in their lives, and those around them often admonish them to get back in line with the herd. I have been receiving such “advice” ever since I hooked up with Dennis. Sigh.

Limor, that is a great cartoon that you referred to (I watched that clip several times today):

http://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/10/01/this-land-is-mine/

It is typical to see all the debate over a cartoon in the comments to it, as people grind axes. Territorialism, which is what the “this land is mine” meme is all about, is about energy at its root. Animals engage in territorialism primarily to protect their energy (AKA food) supply. Even plants can do it, such as poisoning the area around their roots so that other plants cannot compete for resources, primarily sunlight. Land was the primary form of wealth before industrialization, but I believe that it is more accurate to say that the energy provided by land (photosynthesis at its root, driven by sunlight) was the basis of wealth before people learned to tap into fossil fuels (ancient sunlight). The energy provided by burning fossil fuels far outstrips what photosynthesis can provide (about 25 gallons of gasoline provides all the calories that a person would need to run their bodies for a year, which makes the biofuel “revolution” ridiculous on its face), so land-based wealth became kind of obsolete in industrialized societies (unless that land was sitting on fossil fuels! :) ). That Land of Milk and Honey is largely a desert and semi-desert today, thanks to millennia of how humans wrenched energy from that land.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
5th October 2012, 03:28
Limor and Robert, very good topics which could be another thread. "Raise children towards an FE/Abundance paradigm". To copy/paste your posts would be a great start to it. What do you think, readers of this thread? It's too big to develop here, and too important to merely glance at, I think. Cheers.

This is the kind of thing I was looking for in a recent post - what are we (readers of this thread) going to go away and do ?

CdnSirian
5th October 2012, 03:45
Peace and power to you Wade, in regards to your family affairs. Indeed, we all have families...

sandy
5th October 2012, 05:50
Hang on! and hang in! Everyone,

It seems to me that the world's chaos is mulitplying rapidly and fear is running the game anymore. Although most of my family has come back into my life I'm not getting caught up in the drama of their creations. I love them, do what I can and want to do, and keep a keen awareness as to the lessons being presented for me to learn and or practise.

Staying mindful and steady/balanced within, works for me these days although it can be boring :) not buying into the drama. Much Love and compassion to all and many visions of abundance and creation of abundance in your daily activities.

Wade Frazier
5th October 2012, 14:00
Hi Sandy:

Thanks for the thoughts. Yes, these are chaotic times. I am doing my best to stay focused on a fairly narrow set of tasks – earn a living, play husband, take care of my health, get my FE writing done and get that conversation started, and also take care of my family, as I am about the only one who really can paddle his canoe – my family is mostly a bunch of misfits. I am strained to the max, and people who begin playing the FE game, even at the “innocuous” level that I am these days, gets all sorts of mayhem rained into their lives. It comes with the territory.

Probably most painfully, the very people that I end up helping actually try to wreck my life, and some have done a fair amount of damage. It is the ones closest to you that can do the most damage. And the source of their desire to inflict damage on me is usually because of my FE journey, believe it or not. What I am doing represents the end of the world as they know it, and it also represents the biggest event in human history. Even the dimmest among them can grasp that at some level. So, the magnitude of the issue brings up all manner of twisted ambition, delusion, survival fears, trying to pour the new wine into the old skins, and so on, usually at a highly magnified level. That is a low-level version of what I encountered during my days with Dennis. When pursuing FE, and as the magnitude of what we were pursing became evident to people, then it began tripping the light fantastic. Not only did greed and delusions of grandeur rear their heads amongst most of our business associates, but the magnitude of the issues became magnified a million-fold. Getting a billion dollar offer to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and getting nuked after we refused:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail

was just what Godzilla and his minions did. That was not really the hard part. The hard parts were dealing with the many fearful, dishonorable, naive, greedy, and criminal acts engaged in by our “allies” as we were trying to survive the death blows that Godzilla was aiming at us. People I had known most of my life became unrecognizable when the heat was on. The perils and temptations of the FE path are simply far too great for Joe Average to navigate. That was the big lesson of the path, one that I had to live through for years to finally understand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

The problem in the FE field today is that almost none of the names that you hear of have played at the high levels. They usually are tinkering inventors. Class does not really begin until you try bringing disruptive energy technology to the market. Nobody in the FE field has played that game at a higher level than Dennis has:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

It looks nothing like normal business, which is another one of the pitfalls that newbies fall into.

Because I have not given up on this FE quest, and probably never will, even playing at the low level that I do anymore still creates all manner of extreme reaction from those around me. Again, I am advocating the end of the world as we know it, and it brings up fear in almost everybody, not the optimism that maybe we don’t have to wreck Earth while taking ourselves out, and we can even have Heaven on Earth. Nope. The primary reaction is fear. The fear usually manifests in denial (those Levels 1 to 3 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1), or outright fear (Level 5), or all the half-cocked ways that people think that they can help make FE happen (Levels 6, 7, 9, 10, 11). Not only have I seen all of those reactions countless times, so has everybody who has played this FE game for very long. It is nothing like any other pursuit on Earth, and the danger is thinking that it is. This is something radically different than the usual retail politics, economics, conspiracism, and the rest of the subject matter that gets batted around on the Internet and elsewhere.

That is why I repeatedly say that thinking that you can turn your friends, family, and business associates onto the FE idea is potentially life-wrecking folly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#telling

Most FE newbies do not like to hear it, deny it, and have to find out for themselves. I have seen lives get wrecked and careers end when newbies just had to go tell everybody they knew about FE.

But even I can’t keep my mouth shut all the time, and anybody close to me usually hears about “Wade’s World,” and it is often unpleasant as they try to add their two bits, to either help or challenge me. They usually either treat my “other” life as something that did not happen, or believe that I am gilding the lily, or that they can somehow add some keen insight into the mix, or they realize what a threat I represent to their world and they try to take me out, usually after I have helped them.

I have navigated all manner of mayhem during my adventures. I lost my naïveté long ago, the hard way, but I am still subjected to the attacks, the “help” that puts people in jeopardy, and so on. Lately, I have had to navigate some life-and-death issues, with many life-wrecking implications, and those close to me are pretty oblivious to the peril, which makes it difficult. I regularly am around people who play with nuclear dynamite, thinking that they have it all handled. If I can’t talk them out of it, I get very far away from them. That is what is happening right now, and I am getting put in the middle of it by various parties, while I am fighting fires at my day job, trying to overcome burnout, and so on. I do not shirk my fate – this stuff has been the story of my life, but as with many of my posts here at Avalon, I am giving a peek into my life, as an example of what this path entails. It sure isn’t for everybody. :)

Oh well, I hope to do at least one Rome post this weekend, but we will see. The fires at work are burning pretty hot right now.

Best,

Wade

sandy
5th October 2012, 17:58
Hi Wade,

What can I say except hang on and hang in my Dear Brother. (((( <3,<3,<3 ))))) I don't envy your or anyone else's position who still have to run the gauntlet each day to make a living. Wearing masks of sorts to maintain the work social norms, watering down our opinions, views and perceptions to acknowledge the understanding and awareness levels of others around us and in our personal lives and role modeling the LOVE and COMPASSION we believe in can be so exhausting and draining.

We need each other here on this thread more than ever in my opinion, just to hear and validate one another and to support in what ways we can those in need in times of exhaustion and depleted energy.

Wade I hear the Mountains calling you, forget about the next essay for now and please find the time to take care of you and replenish your Energy and Love of I am.

This is a selfish request on my part as I don't want to lose you to burn out or any other malady or life threatening event. Your Being and Love is so valued and appreciated. I just wish I could infuse you with my gratitude and joy for YOU being apart of my life, just to add some energy to yours as you so often do to mine. I love "YOU" Wade Frazier :)

Robert J. Niewiadomski
5th October 2012, 18:02
Hang on Wade :) "Funny" thing is i too had to do enormous damage control at my office :( It took us half of August and almost whole of September. Somehow it did not sucked my whole attention in but it felt like some bad dream... It is over now. I remember i was constantly thinking of building a FE device to live off the grid and escape the system... But i guess nobody can do it alone. We will turn the corner together or we will go down the toilet together :)

Wade Frazier
6th October 2012, 02:54
Sandy, my darling, your vibes are much appreciated.

For the first time in my career, I took a “family emergency” day off this week to do a little hike in the woods to try to clear my head. It was hard to get anything done at work, as people were dropping their nukes in my lap. Believe me, I would like nothing more than to get some quality time doing the mountain thing, but I just had my “break” less than a month ago, and I did not get the rest that I needed (my wife brought back some illness from the office that I caught as I began the backpack, and other hassles). My problems really begin and end with a highly-demanding day job that I have to do as long as I can. Nine years and counting, with no breaks of significance and none on the horizon. The essay has been on the back burner for a while, such as ever since I joined Avalon. That has not been bad, as I needed to get a lot of work done on the material for the essay, a lot of which you are seeing on this thread for the past three months, and I have not even gotten to the fun stuff yet. :) I am in no rush to get the essay done. This series of posts will have to do for now. I see this human journey series lasting perhaps the rest of the year, and it will clearly lay out the outline of my material and intent.

Maybe I will break one day. I have broken before, a few times. Not long ago, I thought that I might have had a potentially-fatal affliction, but that does not seem to be the case. But what I took away from that is that I have probably fifteen more good years in me, and I am going to make them count.

I keep asking people around me to leave me be, to take their dramas someplace else, but they often just can’t seem to do it. Too many people want a piece of me. I have kicked various people right out of my life, and I have no regrets and they can stay gone, but with the delusions of those around me, they want to bring such people back into my life, as if I have an obligation to them. If people try to take me out, they are gone, and I don’t care how many decades we have been friends or how close our blood relationship is. Even then, I have had to do a lot of forgiving, and let some people back in a little (such as my mother http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&highlight=treasure#post400492), but I will not hesitate to boot them back out. I have too much to do, to let people’s self-serving agendas and invincible delusions get in my way. I am on a mission. :)

Hi Robert:

Yes, no man is an island. FE cannot be done by one person or a thousand of them, not unless it is a gathering of saints, and I only met a few of those in my life so far – not quite a thousand. :) Enough of us have to muster the best that we can, or yes, the whole planet goes down the toilet, taking us with it. Maybe some other effort will turn the corner, and I can only pray that one does, but I have no interest in the paths of disaster that I have witnessed so many times before.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
6th October 2012, 03:37
Nukes in lap
Friends in cyber space no-space prove it
What's real past keyboard
Mountain trails under foot planet whispers
It's real it's ok
They're really there your friends.

Limor Wolf
6th October 2012, 10:39
1. The Road Not Taken (Robert Frost, 1920)


TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.


I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.


Echoing Sandy, Robert, CdnSirian and other friends here who read this thread and care for you, Wade. you took the road less traveled by, it is as much 'grassy and wanted wear' as the one in the poem. it needs someone to walk on it.

In (much) small(er) ways, I believe that many of us has chosen to take side paths rather than the main roads and conventional highway in our life, but not many journeys has been so on the edge as yours, everything is magnified as if by a magnifying glass, each test is the real thing, and that requires someone who can handle it, even if he feels that he does so barely. Please caress and self love yourself as much as you can, inspite some indifferent people around you who can be obstructive in their ignorance. Someone over there (wherever it is) has a great confidance in you, as many here, and we totaly understand what you are trying to do, and would like to follow this path together with you . Thank you for showing us the way.

Wade Frazier
6th October 2012, 14:54
Thanks for the poetry. :)

I have been a wounded duck many times on my preposterous journey, and it has felt like punishment much of the time. If there has been a loving impetus behind that voice in my head, it has been a tough love, the kind that I have had quite enough of for one lifetime. I have had too much adventure, and live as quiet a life as I can anymore. I don’t know how much of what I have been through is paying for past misdeeds, how much is new karma that is being created (and they can pay it back by helping make FE and Heaven on Earth happen, instead of trying to hinder it), and how much is what anybody has to go through who tries to change the world in a radical way. None of it has been easy.

In the end, I live on this planet, too, and I know what can be, so I keep trying to help it manifest. Maybe I am going about it all wrong, but I saw a way to try that does not have to risk lives, even though that may be another hopeful delusion. I have seen how good Godzilla’s minions were at manipulating the naïve and the opportunistic, and I am doing what I can to keep the effort from being something that Godzilla will unleash his minions on, although they will likely show up if they haven’t already. That is a big reason why I am going about this the way that I am.

I am going hiking with my wife in a few minutes, as part of that compensation that I get for my journey. :) I’ll try to get back on the Rome horse this weekend. I have been reading plenty on Rome’s environmental impact these days. In some ways, I regard the debate as kind of senseless. Scholars do not debate that Rome inflicted great environmental devastation on the Mediterranean periphery and Western Europe, because it is obvious. The debate is how much that devastation contributed to the disintegration of the Empire. It is a surprisingly anthropocentric argument. Millions of people died under Rome’s boot, species were driven to extinction, and much of the Roman realm was turned into desert and semi-desert, but the debate is over how much that desertification led to Rome’s collapse. Rome was an evil place. Any “civilization” that forces people to murder each other for entertainment deserves to collapse, and that includes those that engage in vast human sacrifice to appease the gods, such as the Aztecs did. Calling those societies “civilized” is kind of an oxymoron. But I will play the scholarly game myself a little, but the focus is more on the energy issue.

All life forms and all civilizations run on energy, and the more complex they are, the more energy it takes to run them. And when the energy sources used by life forms or civilizations are finite and quickly depleted, it is like building the entire edifice on sand, which is what industrialized civilization has done, and it is what many ancient civilizations also did, particularly those that smelted metal (although Stone Age cultures could also destroy their local environments, just not as affectively as metal-smelting cultures could). When forests were razed and plow agriculture was engaged in to wrench more energy from the land, it eventually cut the energetic legs out from the under the civilizations that did it. There are really no exceptions. The only reason that the entire surface of the planet has not been turned into a big desert yet is because people have not been doing it for long enough. Civilization is a very young thing, on the geological time scale. But when deforestation and plow agriculture are the methods of energy acquisition, the civilization that does it is on a one-way ticket to desertification and collapse. FE can easily make that dynamic as obsolete as forcing people to murder each other for entertainment has become. The forests are what create and sustain the ecosystems that have supported the most abundant life. Whack them down for short-term economic benefit, and the collapse is on its way. With FE, even the “sustained” harvest of them becomes an obsolete idea, as we do not even need to dominate the ecosphere to get our food energy. I admit that that is a highly radical idea, but I know of no other way to get to Heaven on Earth, at least the one that I want to live in, probably a few lifetimes from now. It is possible to turn much of Earth’s surface into a big garden, and that is part of what this world did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

but they did it by operating from the heart in ways that are likely incomprehensible to people living today, but moving toward that reality or one like it has been the mission of my life.

Best,

Wade

ulli
6th October 2012, 15:26
Any “civilization” that forces people to murder each other for entertainment deserves to collapse, and that includes those that engage in vast human sacrifice to appease the gods, such as the Aztecs did. Calling those societies “civilized” is kind of an oxymoron. But I will play the scholarly game myself a little, but the focus is more on the energy issue.

Some of your words deserve a place of their own.

Limor Wolf
6th October 2012, 17:31
Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " The forests are what create and sustain the ecosystems that have supported the most abundant life. Whack them down for short-term economic benefit, and the collapse is on its way. With FE, even the “sustained” harvest of them becomes an obsolete idea, as we do not even need to dominate the ecosphere to get our food energy."



I am hesitant to ask this question, (quite a naive one!), but it is the third time I am asking myself this, it was twice posted here and I also read it on Wade's site:

From "A world based on abundance" - By Wade Frazier

"...Our material needs could be met without exploiting other live forms (even plants)"

In a world based on FE, wouldn't we still need tables and chairs? what about food?
Can we really avoid exploiting plants and forests? or is it meant only regarding utilization that leads to an environmental destruction ?

noxon medem
6th October 2012, 18:39
Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " The forests are what create and sustain the ecosystems that have supported the most abundant life. Whack them down for short-term economic benefit, and the collapse is on its way. With FE, even the “sustained” harvest of them becomes an obsolete idea, as we do not even need to dominate the ecosphere to get our food energy."



I am hesitant to ask this question, (quite a naive one!), but it is the third time I am asking myself this, it was twice posted here and I also read it on Wade's site:

From "A world based on abundance" - By Wade Frazier

"...Our material needs could be met without exploiting other live forms (even plants)"

In a world based on FE, wouldn't we still need tables and chairs? what about food?
Can we really avoid exploiting plants and forests? or is it meant only regarding utilization that leads to an environmental destruction ?

Some plants die after every season .
Some trees allways fall down by other forces .

That we can use freely , and for the rest ;
Try to minimize impact on existing natural life .
- Be !

There is plenty enough to go round , for everyone ,
if we adjust our consumption and allign to eternity .

PS.
Everything is alive , and we need to feed , right ?
- see .

On a personal , common and infinite scale , and more ...
( You figure it out ..).

PPS.
Free energy is you , being free ,
and an energy , like you are ...

To paraphrase the movie "Matrix" :
- Be your own battery , and share ...

PPPS.
Change seems to be the only constant .
So , here some music assosiative :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ZAKuL8cyiAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ZAKuL8cyiAA
( David Bowie - Changes )

:- )

Be (a) well

nm

noxon medem
6th October 2012, 19:05
1. The Road Not Taken (Robert Frost, 1920)


TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.


I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.


Echoing Sandy, Robert, CdnSirian and other friends here who read this thread and care for you, Wade. you took the road less traveled by, it is as much 'grassy and wanted wear' as the one in the poem. it needs someone to walk on it.

In (much) small(er) ways, I believe that many of us has chosen to take side paths rather than the main roads and conventional highway in our life, but not many journeys has been so on the edge as yours, everything is magnified as if by a magnifying glass, each test is the real thing, and that requires someone who can handle it, even if he feels that he does so barely. Please caress and self love yourself as much as you can, inspite some indifferent people around you who can be obstructive in their ignorance. Someone over there (wherever it is) has a great confidance in you, as many here, and we totaly understand what you are trying to do, and would like to follow this path together with you . Thank you for showing us the way.

Leaving the common trail ,
is a personal sacred key ,
and those who know ,
- will be .....

..
-

PS.
There is allways the way ,
- inbetween ....

Wade Frazier
6th October 2012, 21:03
Hi:

Limor, I have written about the fate of more than a hundred exotic materials from the Soviet Bloc:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=503605&highlight=manuscript#post503605

and that is not even the good stuff. As you can see from my posts on ancient civilizations, about 90% of what wood was used for was to burn, and the soils created by the forests were plundered to grow a few crops before they were wrecked. With FE, no need for any of that anymore. The other main use of wood was as building material. Again, that is all obsolete, if kept under wraps today. Using wood for buildings is incredibly primitive and reflects economic poverty. It is essentially stealing the molecule-building effort that trees had for getting their leaves high into the air. Humanity’s ideal food is fruit, which is a symbiosis with the plant. With FE, no need to steal from the trees anymore.

In this world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

their loving harmony with all life, including plants, is one that is pretty much incomprehensible to people today, but with love, it can become our reality (or generations not very far down the road, and we can begin moving in that direction now, and in ways (animal rights, etc.), we are).

Hi Noxon – good ol’ DB.

Ha Ulli:

Those who know me call them Wadeisms. :) Most are humorous ones, but that one certainly is not.

I have been informed that what I have been experiencing lately with nukes in my lap is happening at Avalon a bit, with some members. What I am doing is definitely on Godzilla’s radar, and my efforts with Dennis were certainly targeted, and very likely were with Brian also:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

and it is possible that I am suffering from a little “intervention” right now.

That stuff is not fun, not by any means, and I do what I can to center and protect myself, but if Godzilla sees fit to turn me into another FE martyr, there is probably not much that I can do about it other than get ready to meet my maker. I do not consider the risk to be high, but only fools in this realm deny how the terrain lies. To steal from an aphorism, there are old FE activists, and bold FE activists, but there are very few old, bold FE activists. :)

Off to chores.

Best,

Wade

sandy
7th October 2012, 01:01
Chores and then off to the Mountains and ' A Hiking we will Go' Yeah!!!!! :)

P.S. What a wonderful supportive crew we have on board and I'm not only appreciating every word and every one but I'm lapping it up too :cool:

Ixopoborn
7th October 2012, 14:21
That is why I repeatedly say that thinking that you can turn your friends, family, and business associates onto the FE idea is potentially life-wrecking folly:
Wade

I could not concur more strongly Wade. Similar is wakeful awareness of FE and all its implications to the fictional key carrying burden of Frodo Baggins. Frodo's journey to Sauron, finding the burden of the ring greater and greater as he came closer, reminds me a bit of how I have felt in discovering what I have discovered about FE. I find rest and relief here on this thread but, sadly, not many other places now.

My experience has taught me to be much more kindly disposed towards the needs of people who deliberately avoid matters as deep as FE. Full FE awareness includes awareness of all the ills of man, a pill too big for nearly everyone to swallow.

I am not unhappy to have made my discoveries even though it has caused me to become much less attached to normal social activities. Aside from my wife, I have only 2 face to face friends who are faintly FE aware. I said to one such friend last Friday, if I had known the full horror of my discoveries at the start, I doubt I would have had the courage to continue my research.

God speed Wade.

Wade Frazier
7th October 2012, 14:32
Hi Sandy:

Thanks for the support.

I want to address a subject that is relevant to this thread and others. It is the subject of evidence, testimony, credibility, and pursuing the truth. It is far from easy, and I have spent most of a lifetime in those pursuits. It is easy, for instance, to compare the tales that American schoolchildren are taught about Christopher Columbus:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#introduction

or George Washington:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#weems

and compare them to the historical evidence:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#first

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

to see what a crock the American establishment serves up in its nationalistic indoctrination. Similarly, it is easy to see what a propaganda system the American media is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

with fabrications and distortions that would make Goebbels blush. All it takes to see through those lies is access to a good library. Determining the truth of the claims that the Apollo moon landings were faked takes a little more effort:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

but you can go there if you take the time to sift through the evidence. It also takes a little bit of a scientific background.

If I did not have inside information on the JFK assassination from a source that I trusted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

I doubt that I would have dug very far into the issue. It has been rewarding to see the evidence keep piling up over the years that continues to strongly support Gary’s tale of meeting with John Tower a few weeks after the JFK hit. I am certain that Oswald was not a lone nut, but fingering the assassins is a much harder task, and I really don’t have much interest in finding out; they are probably all dead by now. When you snoop into something like Oswald’s intelligence background, especially when the CIA, FBI, and military have a vested interest in covering it up, you can really enter a hall of mirrors, and this is where my rules of evidence come into play. I never take at face value anything that alleged covert operatives have to say. For one thing, if they really are covert operatives, they will not be able to provide much documentation, and similar to the FE game, those who claim to be insiders who tell everybody how it works are likely not legit. Their employers and former employers will silence them. There are laws and rules of the game that are followed. I think that anybody who avidly listens to insiders, without triangulating with solid evidence, is led down the path more often than not. Similarly, anybody with a military background is potentially compromised, so I also take their testimony under advisement. That is not to say that I don’t have any involvement with that crowd, because I do, but I keep it at arm’s length.

When I write about the CIA, it is often regarding public-domain information, even though they have tried to reclassify some of it, bizarrely:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#reclassify

But I also had a close relative who was a CIA contract agent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

who almost tried to recruit me into the “business.” He never knew that I knew about his secret life. I could provide plenty of documentation and first-hand accounts of his activities as a public persona – he was famous – but for his secret life all I have are the testimonies of those close to me. Nobody has to believe the tale of my relative, but I have encountered quite a few covert action tales from those close to me, and most were kind of “accidental,” where they were in the military and inducted into a covert operation just before they were discharged, or “borrowed” for an “off the books” military mission. That stuff happens all the time, and anybody who thinks that it all gets eventually declassified does not know what they are talking about. A lot of stuff is in the deep black category and will never see the light of day. And that is the stuff that happens in the government. Privatized covert action, the kind that Godzilla engages in, will never leave a paper trail. One downside to that is that anybody can claim that they were a covert action operative, and there has been a great deal of that kind of behavior in conspiratorial circles, of people posing as operatives, spewing disinformation for reasons only they know.

Also, for legit covert operatives, their “confessional” activities should always be taken with a big grain of salt. Again, if they were really spilling the beans, there are ways to silence them, pronto. I never believe anything they say. What makes something like Greer’s Disclosure Project credible is that most witnesses were not UFO insiders, but people who worked in NASA, the military, academia, etc., who saw something that they were not supposed to see, and they risked their careers and even lives by coming forward. There may be a few hoaxers among the Disclosure Project witnesses, but I’ll bet that most are legit, and when a bunch of the leading names in the Disclosure effort all got cancer and died right after those Congressional hearings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

those of us who have played these games at the high levels were sadly not surprised. When Mallove was murdered and Brian got spooked and immediately moved to South America:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

I was sympathetic. Brian already almost lost his life playing those games:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

and I understood his not wanting to go the full martyr route, even though that attack still ended up shortening his life.

So, some areas are fraught with peril, and finding out what is real and what is fake can be a bewildering experience. At the far extreme on one end are the “skeptics” and even the radical left at times, who will not believe anything that is not in official government documentation that they have access to. That naïve positivism can really lead to a blinkered view of reality, and is partly why the radical left and mainstream scientists are a bunch of Level 3s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

The "skeptics," however, may be the most dishonest bunch that I have yet encountered, with Mr. Skeptic making up new lies when his old lies are exposed:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=410817&highlight=multiple+felony#post410817

and the incredible part is that he is pals with one of the leading names in the FE milieu:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

That kind of naïveté can be fatal in this field, but I see it all the time. I have had my credibility challenged many times, usually by trolls, but I have never seen even one of my assailants honestly ever do any homework. Dennis’s books, if nothing else, provide a rich documentary trail of what we experienced, for anybody who wants to take the time and do a little fact-checking, and his books are only the tip of the iceberg. My story has a mountain of documentation behind it that can be easily unearthed if anybody took a little time. It is ironic that that leading FE voice calls the documentation in Dennis’s books “alleged” while he pals around with Dennis’s assailant who is a proven liar many times over. How “funny,” as in bizarre. I have seen people in those same circles harshly criticize Brian while befriending undisputed liars. Those are some of the reasons why I am really not in the FE field today and don’t want to be. It does not have the right stuff today.

I have seen alleged spooks join Avalon, and I stay far away from them. In general, you will almost never see me quote a spook or take them seriously. If they are real, they are tainted by their background and could well be playing “former spook” for their employers. When people say that they have all sorts of inside contacts who give them the scoop on Godzilla, I rarely listen to what they have to say. About the only one that I take very seriously is Greer, and that is partly because some of what he has alleged I have independently confirmed by sources close to me. When Godzilla (the alleged “good guy” faction) told Greer twenty years ago that they had paid out $100 billion to keep the lid on FE and related technologies, it made perfect sense to me. The billion dollar offer that Dennis received was a high offer, but not very unusual:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and it was high for a few reasons, probably most importantly because Dennis had survived the energy wars for many years by that time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

and he led a national movement, and was not some lone wolf inventor. Also, what my friend saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

was exactly what some of the Disclosure witnesses described. Mainstream scientists and inventors are not playing at the high levels. When you start bringing disruptive energy technology to the market, then you start playing at the high levels, at least high enough where you begin to encounter Godzilla after he stops playing nice.

Conspiracism is a disease:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

and I stay away from it and discourage people from going down that path very far. Because covert action operatives hail from the conspiratorial side of the fence, I won’t have much to do with them. I acknowledge their existence and activities, and have been targeted by them, but they really are not very important in the big picture. It is what we do that really matters, not what Godzilla and his minions do. Godzilla can only play his games because humanity is asleep and easily manipulated in its semi-sentient state. Once enough people develop comprehensive awareness and can keep their eye on the ball, there really won’t be much that Godzilla will be able to do to prevent FE and Heaven on Earth from happening. That is my game.

Sorry, but this was my post for today. No Rome post this weekend. We will see if I can get some done in the coming week, but I will be insanely busy.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th October 2012, 14:49
OK, one little addendum to address Ixopoborn’s post. That was a great post, Ixopoborn. Yes, it can really be a great burden to lay on somebody, to ask them to wake up to how life on Earth really works. I rarely do it, and carefully. As I have stated, even though I ran into Bill Gates:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

and he fancies himself as some kind of energy activist, I would not sit down and talk FE with him if he wanted to. It would blow his establishment perspective right out of the water, and if somebody like him began snooping into FE, Godzilla would have to intervene. Brian O kept trying to engage people like Gates, but I wanted no part of it. It is too dangerous, for both us and them. Not many are fit for the task of even thinking about the FE milieu and its implications.

Everybody takes the journey of awakening eventually, but it will be easier when they can wake up to FE delivered to their house. Obviously, a slumbering humanity that has abdicated its sentience for a full belly and comfort is doomed, with Godzilla running the show, so I am certainly not into the sleep-for-everybody program, but I am looking for those needles in haystacks. Yes, Frodo’s journey, or Rand al’Thor’s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_al%27Thor

can be easily seen as FE allegories, and is probably part of my attraction to them. In ways, Dennis is Rand (even to the red hair and being crippled), his wife is Nynaeve, Mr. Professor was Perrin, and so on.

I have a long day and week ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

Chris Gilbert
7th October 2012, 20:33
OK, one little addendum to address Ixopoborn’s post. That was a great post, Ixopoborn. Yes, it can really be a great burden to lay on somebody, to ask them to wake up to how life on Earth really works. I rarely do it, and carefully. As I have stated, even though I ran into Bill Gates:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

and he fancies himself as some kind of energy activist, I would not sit down and talk FE with him if he wanted to. It would blow his establishment perspective right out of the water, and if somebody like him began snooping into FE, Godzilla would have to intervene. Brian O kept trying to engage people like Gates, but I wanted no part of it. It is too dangerous, for both us and them. Not many are fit for the task of even thinking about the FE milieu and its implications.

Everybody takes the journey of awakening eventually, but it will be easier when they can wake up to FE delivered to their house. Obviously, a slumbering humanity that has abdicated its sentience for a full belly and comfort is doomed, with Godzilla running the show, so I am certainly not into the sleep-for-everybody program, but I am looking for those needles in haystacks. Yes, Frodo’s journey, or Rand al’Thor’s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_al%27Thor

can be easily seen as FE allegories, and is probably part of my attraction to them. In ways, Dennis is Rand (even to the red hair and being crippled), his wife is Nynaeve, Mr. Professor was Perrin, and so on.

I have a long day and week ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

I'm very selective as well about who I discuss certain topics with. Sometimes you need to give people 'milk' first before feeding them 'hard' food. If you try to break through their programming too fast, their own cognitive dissoance kicks in and they become LESS likely to listen to you than before.

I believe good fiction taps into not only the collective unconscious, but also higher archetypes. For most writers it occurs spontaneously, but some can understand and steer the process. Such skills arguably have a greater impact on the thinking of the majority than do the debator approach.

Wade Frazier
8th October 2012, 04:38
Hi:

To your last comment, Ixopoborn, Brian stated late in his life in interviews that if we knew what he was in for when he left the orthodox fold, he would have kept sipping sherry at his soft berth at Princeton:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sherry

I know the feeling. If I had any idea what that voice had in mind for me when it suggested that I study business, I would have probably told it to take a hike. I have definitely been manipulated on my journey, by my soul or whatever, and the feeling of being manipulated into my journey, seeing how so many lives got wrecked, has certainly been a mixed blessing. I have had enough of that kind of “guidance” for one lifetime. Dennis is on his “faith walk” with his god, but that is not the journey that I am on. No regrets, but “No mas!”

So, your sentiment is understood, but going through the “horror,” as you put it, is likely necessary so that letting go of the false ideologies can be achieved. When people defend their scarcity-base ideologies to me when faced with FE and its implications:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Their defense is what keeps them in Levels 1 to 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

They are in denial of reality, because the scarcity-based ideologies of their choice provide them comforting fictions, but that is a delusional state. We can’t get to FE and abundance by dragging our delusions with us. You are doing good work, because the “horror” will allow you to let go of the conditioning that prevents comprehension. We all get the conditioning from our cradles.

That seques to Enishi’s comment. This FE stuff is the hardest of the hard, because its implications threaten humanity’s most cherished beliefs, which are all based on scarcity. But I see it like the Roman masses who got off on watching gladiators kill each other. There is a lot more to life than watching people kill each other. Scarcity-based belief systems can go the way of the other barbaric relics of our past. Very few on Earth today can let go of their scarcity-based beliefs and embrace the idea of abundance, when scarcity is all that humanity has ever known. Those who can are those needles that I keep referring to. So, there is no way to really ease the masses’ minds into FE that I can see, especially when Godzilla sits on his throne. FE will have to be shown to the masses before they are going to even imagine that it is possible and what the implications are. This is something that I learned the hard way long ago, as did Brian and so have other fellow travelers. Dennis tried the “milk” approach and still does, where people can pursue business opportunities and save on their energy bills, but that really aims low, so low that when the promise of riches does not materialize, or nobody shows up to their house with the energy-saving equipment, they go back to watching TV and their lives of quiet desperation. He has also played the religion and nationalism cards, which are scarcity-based belief systems, so are really opposed to the abundance idea. The crowds attracted for those self-serving reasons are absolutely no help at this stage, and I highly doubt that some inventor-hero is going to save us. That is why I am doing what I can with those who can go there. FE means the end of the world as we know it, and the human journey can begin to resemble something like Star Trek, and in the best way, not fighting Klingons or the Borg. You really can’t sneak all of that up on too many people, dodging their ego defense mechanisms so that the truth can begin to dawn on them. It is too big and radical for them. They really have to see it and experience it before they are going to begin to understand. And yes, fiction is one way to engage the imagination, to think bigger about issues. Fantasy and science fiction writers, for instance, have remarked that the framework of the genre allows them to explore issues that they could not really do in a non-fictional setting. If they were writing as essayists or “debaters,” most readers would react too strongly to their belief systems to be able to take the trip with the author.

If I had not lived through a life that many consider to be at least semi-fictional, I might have tried fiction myself, but my work will be non-fiction, except for some of those tales that Ilie likes. :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=330505&viewfull=1#post330505

I may do another one of those after I finish this human journey series of posts.

Best,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth
8th October 2012, 19:32
I am beyond tired of thinking about FE. I want to do it and live it!

I'm not sure I understand the issue really. Although it's been shoved in my face repeatedly.

FE changes the rules on the most fundamental level. It leads to autonomy for the individual because those with abundance do not need to abrogate thier sovereignty in exchange for the illusion of safety or security. Due to that shift in the power base most institutions in our current world would collapse from lack of interest and applicability.

The solar system and its worlds would be ours to explore and to live on if we wish. The Earth could recover its natural and pristine condition and become the lush garden it was always meant to be. And our mind sets themselves would be softer, more yeilding and understanding - those possessing everything have nothing to gain by guile or other under-handed means.

This is simple logic. It does not even take a comprehensive overview to comprehend.

It is not that people do not understand - it is that people do not want to risk their standing in this world. They like where they are in the pecking order and do not wish to risk the little they have. They are lazy, scared and easily manipulated. Their greed drives their fear. Yes, they will only come on board when FE is dilivered to their doorsteps. They will not help and will only hinder its inevitable coming.

The boat of the status quo is hard to rock, let alone to capsize - which is what FE will do.

So we are stuck with each other, on this thread. No one will come save the day - and we can only dream of that day. And that is where it will stay until this modern empire of capitalism is no more. How that will come about is anyone's guess, and when.

So I wait, as I have waited my whole life, for my brothers and sisters to catch up with me. I believe one day most will grow sick of this scarcity-based game and they will do the sacrificing required to bring about the sorely needed renaissance this world is so in need of today.

So pick and choose your pieces of the puzzle and assemble your world view. Call me when you're sick of playing games. I'll be the one on the sidelines, patiently waiting.

May The Most High God hasten that day.

Peace.

Robert J. Niewiadomski
8th October 2012, 20:59
Hi

Ernie, i wholly share that itching yearning inside with you. My blood presure jumps higher, especialy in the morning, when i see seemingly endles number of cars lined up in a traffic jam with people trapped inside giving fingers to each other or honking at each other in frantic rush. Rush WHERE EXACTLY?! For God Sake? My Sisters and Brothers, can't you all see how insane this is? Please, let us wake up.... I ask them silently in my heart. I know They hear me. We hear every such a prayer every one of us ask the rest. We have no option but to wait... Like water drops carving hard rock to make Grand Canyon in the end. The harmonics Wade constantly reminds us of are such droplets. Droplets trying to carve a new Grand Canyon for FE to flow. This is a lesson in patience. That is how i understand this... I would like to build FE device and use it to break free. Not for money or fame. This meens nothing to me now. Just for freedom of being. And what with the rest of the Earth?

Whenever i start thinking intensly of building FE device strange things begin to happen around me. "Time bombs" (planted earlier uncounsciously by myself :( ) begin to explode without a warning around me bringing me down to the ground immediatelly. There was a time i could not sleep because of that. Nowdays i barelly notice it and just clean the mess dutifully and move forward. But it is still time and atention consuming... But my patience and hope grows illogically :)

Here is a little song to cheer us all :) I hope so...
OW1TZCcemek

Ilie Pandia
8th October 2012, 22:13
The solar system and its worlds would be ours to explore and to live on if we wish. The Earth could recover its natural and pristine condition and become the lush garden it was always meant to be. And our mind sets themselves would be softer, more yeilding and understanding - those possessing everything have nothing to gain by guile or other under-handed means.

This is simple logic. It does not even take a comprehensive overview to comprehend.

Unfortunately I believe it does require a comprehensive overview.

Without it, your focus will be quickly distracted by the next show, by the inventor that almost had it, the hero that almost saved us and so on... The comprehensive overview is the rock solid foundation of understanding that Energy runs the shows around here.

A comprehensive view also includes the understanding of why fellow humans are as they are. I don't believe that waiting for them to catch up or dropping a hammer on their toes is a good idea. They won't catch up and they won't wake up, not now, not yet.

I understand your desperation of doing something, and this is also why I don't like waiting. You can only imagine what a test this is for Wade's patience :), he's been at this for a very long time.

I know you've said you're beyond tired of thinking about Free Energy. Well, take it a step further: don't think about it, think how everything changes once we have it. I never get tired of that... well, I do, in the sense that I fall asleep, but the exploration seems endless once you start to really go into it. You can pick virtually any object around you, any process, any thought or any belief and ask "How would this be if we had Free Energy? would it still be here? would it be the same? what would be different? how would I and others relate differently to this concept?" It's mind boggling where you can go with this...

I once started to mentally improve my car with the use of free energy and ended up dropping the car altogether :biggrin:, and I wasn't sure that I needed any kind of transportation any more, in the world that I found myself. I could write more about this, but it's difficult to put it into words and then translate it to English :).

Wade Frazier
9th October 2012, 04:15
Hi all:

To Ernie’s post, you would be amazed, Ernie, how people don’t get it. Smart ones, stupid ones, people who will chain themselves to the front gates of nuclear reactors to protest, but treat FE like the enemy. Their entrenched denial can be mind-boggling to witness. What they all have in common, that I eventually figured out, is an addiction to scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

It is a lot more varied than it just being a bunch of these people:

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=41540

I’ll agree that their egos short-circuit their awareness, but they truly don’t get it – their awareness is truly short-circuited, however consciously chosen their condition may be. All they see with the advent of FE is their world coming to an end. Yes, they have largely abdicated their sentience in order to get a full belly, but they really have abdicated their sentience. You have to spend many years on the front lines of this issue to really understand. When Brian O openly wondered if humanity was a sentient species, after playing the Paul Revere of FE for several years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

I sadly understood.

I want to make something very clear: what I am trying to do is far from the only path to free energy and a healed planet. However, this angle that I am trying out is not asking the participants to risk their lives, and I am trying to fill a gap that I saw with all previous efforts, which is an aware and engaged public. And by “public,” I mean those who are not part of some heroic FE effort, and the “public” that I am shooting to help achieve Level 12 status is merely 0.0001% of the public at large – I ain’t asking for much, and if humanity can’t muster even that, then maybe we deserve to go down the galactic toilet. The problem is that not enough people care enough, plain and simple.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

It is possible to see what I am trying to do as building a support effort that will push the FE heroes over the top one day, if it happens that way, but that Level 12 group that I have in mind is a long way from forming. And I am not shooting for the Level 10 experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

Been there, done that, several times, and I saw the utter futility of that approach, shooting for the lowest-common-denominator, which was self-interest in the end. Not only can such efforts self-destruct in spectacular fashion, but Godzilla is quite the expert at taking them out, although Dennis’s efforts created a few new twists that gave Godzilla some interesting days at the office, and The Big G has not forgotten me, who became a pain in his butt and is still making trouble.

For several years, I have directed readers of my site to where their interest lies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#pursuit

and I direct those who want to build FE devices in their garages, those who want to debate FE physics, and other aspects of the FE issue, to where they may find what they are looking for. Those who just have to go try to scale the ramparts are welcome to go try, but they should not be surprised if they lose their life’s savings, their families, their friends, their livelihoods, their freedom, and possibly their sanity and their lives in the attempt. And all of that was the easy part for me. The hard part was watching lives get destroyed that I got involved in my adventures, and that damned voice in my head has plenty to answer for. I have seen lives wrecked and prematurely ended, and that will haunt me for the rest of my days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

I would not wish that fate on anybody. If anybody wants to play FE martyr, please do it someplace else. I have been approached by people who wanted to play FE martyr, more than once.

For those who just have to go charging at the ramparts, some Avalon members are promoting Keshe and Rossi - the inventors of the hour, who may have something, and may not – who look a lot like the latest lambs to the slaughter in that endless parade over the generations. Dennis is still at it, although I am not sure that he whistles the FE tune much anymore. There are plenty of opportunities other than my effort to go do something on the FE front, and people are free to go after it, but I am not going to abandon my effort or let it get derailed, if I can help it. I am continually besieged by people trying to get me to sign on for their effort, and I am finished with that. I have carried the spears for enough years, and it is time to do my thing with the years I have left. FE will be the biggest event in world history, and will be when humanity turns the corner on its journey, if we turn the corner and don’t go out in a ball of flame. It is one hell of a lot harder than it may look to newbies. The mental exercises that Ilie is describing is exactly what I was hoping that my work would stimulate, and to see him doing that gives me a “mission accomplished” feeling that I rarely get to enjoy.

Well, I hope to get back on the Rome horse soon. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th October 2012, 14:29
Hi:

Not much time this morning, but one book on my desk these days is Radkau’s Nature and Power, and there is a passage worth repeating, as this thread covers ancient civilizations. It goes this way:

“Nicklaus Luhmann’s assertion that archaic societies ‘were better able to present supernatural matters better than natural ones’ is hard to believe. The notion that religion constantly pervaded all spheres of life in pre-modern and non-Western cultures betrays the influence of modern tourism, which, to the extent that it focuses on ‘culture,’ has a pronounced penchant for sacred architecture and cultic dances and ceremonies – these provide the best entertainment and photographs. Hans Peter Duerr has grumbled that ‘only middle class citizens enamored of luxury’ could believe that consciousness and not material existence determined the ‘life of a society.’ As soon as one is tormented by pangs of hunger, he goes on, one feels the truth of Brecht’s sarcastic comment, ‘First chow, then morals’ – we should occasionally remind ourselves of this also in environmental history. Clifford Geertz, well versed in the study of the connections between religion and ecology noted: ‘But no one, not even a saint, lives in the world religious symbols formulate all of the time, and the majority of men live in it only at moments.’ Everywhere there existed, alongside religion, also a world of practical experience, without which one could not survive. Geertz saw ‘man as moving more or less easily, and very frequently, between radically contrasting ways of looking at the world.’”

That passage is not only relevant to understanding, or perhaps not understanding, ancient people and cultures, but it is also relevant to the problems of making FE happen. Pre-industrial, agricultural peoples were keenly aware of the weather and other aspects of the natural environment. While comfortable Westerners often think in terms of weather as being nice to have a picnic in or not, the state of the weather was the difference between life and death in pre-industrial cultures. The so-called New Age is filled with “mystical” concepts of how people used to live, and recreating “ceremonies” of ancient peoples. That is a form of tourism, and has about zero relevance to today’s world. When I get into FE talk with certain people, they immediately wax mystically, drawing on that New Agey perspective. They can only keep waxing mystically because they have an easily-filled belly. The mystical stuff is really not that important, not in thinking that it trumps material reality, not while were here. There are no hungry philosophers.

From what I have seen, when people immediately jump into the mystical end of the pool, trying to see the FE issue predominately through that lens, it is because they are scientifically illiterate, so they don the lenses that they are familiar with. That is one reason why New Agers generally are of no use on the FE front:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

wrapped up in their religious beliefs that they can be so heavenly bound that they are no earthly good. I have stated many times that everybody who I respect in the FE field has a mystical orientation, usually because of a mystical awakening, usually in their late teens or early twenties. But they were scientists first and mystics second. While they were quite aware of extra-physical realities, they all called physical reality their home while alive, and it was the real world that they were most concerned with, not mystical notions. Brian O used to say how many “mystical” people seemed hip to some of the ideas around FE, but they did not have a practical approach. This is a key problem on the FE front, to pay attention to what is important, and let the less important stuff go the proper level of its role. I have seen this phenomenon in many fields, including my business adventures. People tend to project the level of their understanding on situations, and hack at branches, because the branch is all they know.

As an example, when I became a controller of a trucking company long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#_edn1

I was the first real controller that the company had. They had many problems that took my time to tackle over the years. My immediate predecessor, however, was trying to bring payroll in-house. Payroll services are almost always worth the money that companies pay them, because of all the tax jurisdictions that can be involved. Companies should not consider bringing payroll in-house until they reach thousands of employees, and companies with up to 60K employees and more can use payroll services. We had less than 100 employees when I started at that company. Of all the immense problems that trucking company faced, why was my predecessor trying to bring payroll in-house? Because she knew how to do that! :)

That is a cousin to my observation that people need comprehensive perspectives in order to unravel the FE conundrum and help it along. Otherwise they get tripped up in donning their mystical lenses, or their businessman’s lenses, or their white scientist’s lenses, because that is what they know, and they end up missing what is important, focusing on inconsequential aspects of the situation because that is what their background is. This is one of the biggest problems in the FE conundrum, even among the few who are really trying to wrap their heads around it.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

ulli
9th October 2012, 14:55
Everyone is really so different, and no one has all talents combined.
So even the mystics have a role to play, as long as they are willing to share their visions...
which may well be memories of future worlds from which they hailed.

The stepping down to earth level and practical applications of such vision needs to go through special stages...like transformers.

If one considers the four elements, fire, earth, air and water, and how they can effect 4 distinct types of human beings
you get the down-to-earth type who puts the invention into the practical realm,
but they must first receive such a message from a fiery enthusiast or a cool headed messenger, or a team of both,..
while they in turn received the message from the visionary mystic who is represented by the element of water.

It can work, if one only understands human nature.

kudzy
10th October 2012, 02:04
What do you do before you are enlightened?....."split wood, carry water."
What do you do after you are enlightened?...."split wood, carry water."

Granted, with free energy splitting wood and carrying water would be irrelevant and completely unnecessary. But in relation to Wade's last post you get my point. Besides one might just want to split wood for the fun of it, it's a great way to release built up anger and frustration. And a good ol' fashion campfire might just be a nice way to celebrate and honor our "pre-free energy" past, assuming we make it past the hurdle.

Back to focus on making free energy a reality.;)

Wade Frazier
10th October 2012, 05:06
Yes indeed, Ulli, mystics have their place, as do mothers, businessmen, and scientists. Regarding FE and the real-world, everybody needs to eat, and when people lose sight of that or start ranking mystical stuff over the need to eat, they lose sight of what is important, IMO. It is like Maslow’s Hierarchy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

or the development of a child. If children ever forget their potty training, they won’t get too far in life. In many areas that I have been involved in, it is amazing to watch people discard the basics for “sophisticated” or mystical stuff, and completely miss the boat, often suicidally. One of my mantras is that the basics never change, and when people ignore them or violate them, thinking that they are operating at a sophisticated level where the basics don’t matter, they are setting themselves up for catastrophe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

I have seen entire disciplines that are in outer-space, thinking that they are on the leading edge of knowledge and awareness, when they are really living in a fantasy world. Virtually the entire economics profession suffers from that condition, for instance, thinking that the financial economy is real and important, and that reducing everything to market dynamics and money is somehow a sophisticated view of the situation. The Indians clearly saw the European obsession with gold and money as delusional.

To a great degree, humanity is not potty-trained, fouling its nest from the beginning, and only increasing its befouling as humans kept harnessing greater levels of energy from Earth and the environment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

The USA for instance, excels at exporting its waste onto the poor, both within the USA and abroad. When I put any bottle in a recycler, I take the label off, clean it out, and do whatever I can so that the poor East Asian or Pacific Islander who ends up recycling it has an easier time of it. Most Americans have no idea that their plastic gets recycled in poor nations, as do car batteries and other recyclable waste. Venting the waste of fossil fuel burning into the atmosphere is just more of the same, burdening Earth with the refuse of our lifestyles. Resource wars are more evidence of how humanity is not potty-trained, such as the USA’s genocidal invasions of Hydrocarbon Country, with little buddy Great Britain and other sycophants carrying our bags to get their cut of the loot. Slaughtering entire peoples to steal their stuff is the constant dynamic of civilization, going back to the beginning. That is why I say that unless humanity solves the energy issue, and fast, the rest literally won’t matter. Nobody can wax mystically or play the “make a living” game or be an artist on a planet that can’t support complex life. Human “nature” is rarely understood except on the most superficial levels. Wise white scientists realize that the study is in its infancy, and even wiser ones know that our “nature” really does not necessarily say much about our potential.

In this world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

everybody knew virtually everything there was to know about the human body and how to be healthy by age six. That won’t be achieved on this planet in my lifetime, but the road to that world is paved by people developing comprehensive thinking, because everybody in that world was a comprehensivist, and it all began in the heart. People still had their specialties, but they all knew the basics of how their world worked, on a level that would make them all polymaths never seen before in today’s primitive world. Seeing the big picture is required for getting humanity over the hump, so the efforts are not wasted by hacking at branches and even being counterproductive. We need to aim at the root, which is the energy situation and always has been. Godzilla knows this well, and while nearly everybody hacks at branches, if they hack at all, he has the game well in hand, on our sled ride to oblivion. It can be different, but not when virtually nobody even sees the root, much less goes after it.

Best,

Wade

P.S. Hi Kudzy. I admit that campfires can be fun. :)

Wade Frazier
10th October 2012, 13:01
Hi:

OK, let’s get back to Rome. Like Sparta, Rome’s culture was rooted in military prowess. One of the manifestations of that military prowess was gladiatorial fighting. Think of it like what Klingons might do for entertainment. Rome’s military prowess was the primary reason behind its success. In the pre-industrial world, energy provided by sunlight falling on land was the primary basis for wealth, so controlling land was the route to wealth. That sunlight grew trees, and food when the trees were gone, at least until the soils were wrecked. From the very beginning, Rome battled its neighbors and took their land. Before it became big and powerful, it formed alliances rather than straight conquests. The landed families of the Roman Kingdom sought to maintain their status over the masses (the Plebs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plebeians ), and the goal of the Plebs was to become a member of the aristocracy one day. Rome was a multicultural society from the beginning, particularly influenced by the Greeks and Etruscans. Rome was not really much of an innovator, but borrowed and stole from others. Greece was where much of the innovation came from. Think of it like Apple and Microsoft. As I wrote earlier, the Plebs sought to become the aristocracy, and they became a new class of aristocracy eventually.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=563101&highlight=plebeians#post563101

It has been asked why the world did not become industrialized during Ancient Greece. I have seen answers that stated that the Greek aristocracy was not really interested in the directions the society would have needed to go to industrialize. Greece had the coal, but not the impetus:

http://www.mjunction.in/market_news/coal_1/greece_12th_largest_coal_produ.php

Sorry, but I have to run off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th October 2012, 14:18
Hi:

I have some time this morning for a little longer post. I have not had the time to organize my library for the past two moves of my household, since 2009, and some of it is still in boxes from my move this past spring, so I do not have ready access to all of the Rome books that I have studied over the years. Most studies of Rome are about the empire days, not the kingdom or republic, as that is when Roman influence reached its zenith.

The days before Rome became an empire are not too novel. Monarchies have always been the predominant form of government for early civilizations. What are today called republics began with the oligarchy battling royalty, trying to trim its power. Because the energy surplus was so low with pre-industrial agriculture (about ten farmers to support one non-farmer), no society could support many elites, proportionally, and the so-called middle classes were small, generally confined to craftsmen. In economics parlance, craftsmen could practice their crafts as an individual, perhaps employing apprentices and journeymen if they owned their own business, but craftsmen could usually perform their art by themselves. A weaver, a blacksmith, a potter – they could perform their tasks unassisted, or with perhaps a pair of helping hands or two. More efficient crafting made its appearance with the beginnings of civilization, with faster methods of making pottery attending the rise of Sumer.

But as Rome became an Empire, the industrial mode of production began to appear, as pottery and brick factories sprouted up around the Empire, where forests could provide the wood:

http://www.academia.edu/423851/A_Late_Roman_Pottery_and_Brick_Factory_In_Sicily_Santa_Venera_Al_Pozzo_

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_pottery

As I mentioned earlier:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=562534&viewfull=1#post562534

the Roman industries had to keep moving because they wiped out the forests, beginning in Italy and Sicily and moving to Africa, France and Cyprus, and then moving to Germany and Great Britain. One area of the Roman economy is also as old as civilization, and that was the mining of metal. Gold and silver were worthless metals, too soft to make tools, but they were scarce and easily mined because they could be found in nuggets and flakes due to their relatively unreactive natures. They were used in art originally, as all metals first were, and gold and silver became money in the Old World.

As I have stated before, the first writings in all civilizations were accounting so that the elites could track and manage their plunder/tribute.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=540992&viewfull=1#post540992

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=490064&viewfull=1#post490064

Money was also a province of the elite. The Roman Empire was supplied with coin from the mines of Spain, but Rome did not begin them. Carthage mined gold on Sicily and Sardinia in the early days of the Roman Republic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_metallurgy#Sources_of_ore

After Carthage lost its first war with Rome, it conquered parts of the Iberian Peninsula and enslaved the conquered people to mine gold and silver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthaginian_Iberia#Expansion_into_Iberia

After Rome defeated Carthage and destroyed the city, the relatively few survivors largely ended up in the Roman mines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Punic_War#Aftermath

The life of a miner for Rome was short and brutal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Medulas#Description_in_Pliny_the_Elder.27s_Natural_History

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Roman_Britain#Working_conditions

The Romans borrowed the mining techniques used by other cultures such as the Greeks and Egyptians:

http://earthsci.org/mineral/mindep/ancient_mine/deep-vein_mining.htm

But expendable slaves were the labor force for those early mines, whether it was ancient Egypt, Carthage, or Rome. Those hapless slaves all died for accounting reasons or to provide royal grave goods. What an evil waste of human lives. That style of mining died in Europe with the decline of Rome, but was revived when Spain began conquering the New World a thousand years later:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

Time to run off to work, but I will revisit the Roman economy, which is considered to have been an underdeveloped one. The Roman economy, especially when the city reached a million people around the time of Jesus, was primarily based on conquering its neighbors and plundering them of their gold, peoples, wood, land and whatever else Rome found useful. The Italian peninsula could no longer support farming or industry, with the forests gone and the soils wrecked, and the closer to Rome, the more pronounced the dynamic. So, Africa, France and even Great Britain became the sites of farms, factories, and mines, which were all energy-intensive operations.

Best,

Wade

araucaria
12th October 2012, 10:40
Here's one small step in the right direction: municipal vehicles attracting attention for gaining 30% better fuel consumption through some "water doping" technique via a tank of rainwater. Let's hope it catches on and leads to even better stuff (sorry it's in French)

http://www.leparisien.fr/espace-premium/actu/le-moteur-dope-a-l-eau-ca-marche-18-09-2012-2169449.php

Wade Frazier
12th October 2012, 14:21
Hi:

With the increasing toolset available to white scientists, they have seen signs of Roman industry in new ways. The Roman mines on the Iberian Peninsula spewed lead that has been detected in the Greenland ice cores:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/09/science/ice-cap-shows-ancient-mines-polluted-the-globe.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_Lead_Production.jpg

Before the Industrial Revolution, Rome was history’s greatest producer of copper and lead, and Rome began to mine coal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_gross_domestic_product#Mining_and_metallurgy

but the Chinese were a thousand years ahead of them, and on Britain, they were a few thousand years ahead of them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#Early_uses_as_fuel

But coal use really came and went in the world, used only modestly, until England began using it extensively after it wiped out its forests, which led to the Industrial Revolution. During Roman times, muscle provided most power, which was fueled by food, of humans or draft animals.

But, as this presentation observed, the Romans were quite energy inefficient:

http://publicaddress.net/southerly/energy-special-part-3-energy-crisis-in-the/

The horse collars of the day strangled the horses. A medieval horse could haul nearly four times as much as a horse could in Roman times. Rome burned through its slaves – AKA conquered peoples – to the tune of hundreds of thousands of poor souls per year. Roman ships could only sail with the wind, and only rowers could move a boat against the wind. Those kinds of energy inefficiencies, and the prodigious waste of economic resources - forests, slaves, soils, is being increasingly argued as the root reason why Rome fell. In short, the Roman mode of production was unsustainable. No civilization that smelted metals and relied on deforestation and plow agriculture was sustainable, but Rome engaged those dynamics on a grand scale.

I have a map of the Roman Empire that I will dig up and post here that showed the political boundaries of the Roman provinces at the height of the Empire, and a companion map that showed what each province provided to Rome, economically. One province provided olives, another wood, another gold and silver, and so on. One of my friends studied the British Empire, and it was the same game. The USA is merely the latest imperial player on the global stage, raping and plundering Earth and its peoples, in its quest for energy and cheap labor (as in energy-cheap labor).

It is rather amazing to live in an imperial culture and see how blind its citizens are to very obvious dynamics. Only a blithering idiot could believe that the USA’s military presence in Hydrocarbon Country has anything at all to do with helping the Iraqis overthrow the dictator who was on our payroll, and fight “terrorists” that we armed and trained:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#brzezinski

But the official version, the one that everybody gives lip service to, is the idiot’s version, defended to the death by all manner of imperial pundit, from the right, “left,” and center. Our adventure in Afghanistan (like Britain’s and the Soviet Union’s) is being questioned these days as too costly, and nobody ever acknowledges the corrupt motivation behind our adventures. This is one of the essential features of any empire:

http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20080123.htm

Rome, Britain, the Mongols, and so on, it always had a primarily economic motivation, with the rest of it just flowery justification for murder and theft. While the Soviet Union existed, the USA could not really wage war in Hydrocarbon Country, and we had to be content to support our proxies in the region such as Israel, the incredibly corrupt rulers of Saudi Arabia, our puppet in Iran after we overthrew its government with the CIA’s first coup, and so on.

But in the days of Classic Greece and Rome, the energy of fossil fuels had yet to be exploited. Wind and water power were being exploited on a relatively modest level, but the world would have to wait a couple thousand years after the peak of Athens for a civilization to reach the technical competence and social organization to really exploit those energies to their potential. When England did (piggy-backing on the maritime breakthroughs of the Portuguese and others), it quickly conquered the world, to be eventually displaced by its offspring and rival the USA (only after horrific world wars between the imperial powers – the established plunderers versus the upstarts), although the former master is only too happy to carry our bags today to get in on its share of the plunder.

At the peak of its empire, in about 1910, the largest international transfers of wealth were between India and Great Britain, as the entire subcontinent was turned into a plantation for the British. The longer that the British controlled an Indian province, the poorer it was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#stat

But I get ahead of myself. Rome was the greatest empire that the world had known, until the British appeared on the world scene. But Rome’s ascent to imperial status was centuries in the making. From its beginnings in shepherds’ huts, to when Augustus formally ended the Republic, spanned more than seven hundred years. From the first invasions by England of North America until now is only about four hundred years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english

During the days of the Republic, the clothing of the Senators was simple. As the office became more and more meaningless during the days of the Roman Empire, the Senators’ clothing became increasingly ornate, like a costume. Focusing on the trappings of power to bedazzle the masses is what all declining powers do. I could go long into the imperial rituals of the USA, such as the Democratic and Republican conventions and so-called debates, which are nothing more than theatre for the unwashed masses, to distract like the Super Bowl or NASCAR do. The pomp and circumstance around the British royalty is more of the same, but in the USA, we worship flags:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

Gotta run off to work.

Best,

Wade

P.S. Hi araucaria: My orientation forty years ago was wringing more energy from a gallon of gasoline:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

but I am no longer interested in such “solutions,” because they aren’t really solutions. We are not going to get over the hump with such baby steps. All such “solutions” get laughed at by Godzilla and friends, knowing that they have the game well in hand when people resort to stuff like that. We have to start thinking big and comprehensively, or it will be game over, soon.

Wade Frazier
13th October 2012, 16:16
Hi:

I dug up that map of the Roman Empire and the products that disappeared into the maw of Rome. You can see the economic realities from previous posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=562534&viewfull=1#post562534

The timber cut in Morocco, the glass made in France and Belgium, the grain from North Africa and deforested nearby islands (at least until the soil was depleted), the silver, gold, lead and other metals from Spain, timber, wool, and hides coming from Asia Minor and its periphery, metals coming from Britain, and nothing much at all coming from Mesopotamia. From the steppes and periphery of the Empire came hides, much like the early invasions of Europeans into North America, where furs and deer hides were the early commerce from the Eastern Woodlands, to graduate to buffalo hides when the invasion reached the Great Plains. The fur trade was never sustainable:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#fur

Today, those domesticated silver foxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox) have been getting sold to the fur industry, as those foxes do not mind being in cages as much as wild ones do. It is supposedly a humanitarian way to raise fur. God almighty, fur has only been worn for fashion for centuries. That is not far removed from the trade in captured Africans, and domesticating foxes to harvest their fur “humanely” is similar to Luther Burbank talking cacti into losing their needles so that he could turn them into cattle fodder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LutherBurbankSpinelessCactus.JPG

Those are far from the highest and best uses of human ability.

I am finding it necessary once again to center this thread on my intentions, as I am getting hit from all directions by the agendas of others, from people who have zero experience in the disruptive energy technology business and think that they have some kind of answer, or they try to enlist my attention and assistance.

I have done this at least twenty times on this thread already, and need to do it again.

1. My initial orientation nearly forty years ago was wringing more energy out of a gallon of gasoline, in the wake of my first professional mentor inventing what was hailed as the world’s best engine for powering an automobile (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), and I had teenage dreams of changing the energy industry.

2. That same year when my mentor's engine really made waves, I had my mystical awakening (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#how), and a couple of years later a desperate prayer resulted in a voice in my head that changed my college studies from science to business (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice).

3. When I graduated from college, I ended up in the hell of downtown Los Angeles (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), and got a baptism by fire in the real world, and those were the three unhappiest years of my life so far.

4. After several years of gradual disillusionment, for the second and so far last time in my life I made that desperate prayer for guidance, and it answered me once again, this time landing me into the middle of the greatest attempt yet made to bring alternative energy to the American marketplace (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2). That was when my education really began.

5. Our effort bounced back-and-forth across the USA, to end up in my home town of Ventura, California (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr). I brought in my first professional mentor, and we were trying to marry his engine to the panels of Dennis’s heat pump when we got the boom lowered on us (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#pursuit). Then the nightmare began. Dennis got radicalized when the energy interests in Seattle killed one of his employees (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death), and my radicalization happened during those three years in Ventura. When I staggered away in 1990, I would never again see the world in the same way. The primary lesson of my journey was that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) and that the reason why we do not have free energy today has almost nothing to do with Godzilla and his minions, but a sleeping humanity that is its own worst enemy.

6. I came to find out, during those years of long ago, that free energy technology has been around for a long time. Sometimes a tinkering inventor comes up with something (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet), but the good stuff is in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground), but we are not going to get any while we are collectively asleep. Godzilla is only exploiting a semi-sentient herd animal, and if we became truly sentient, or enough of us did, Godzilla could no longer play his games. That understanding that I gained on my journey is beyond almost everybody that I ever encountered. More than twenty years ago, as I was recovering from my adventures, I began trying to interest various parties in free energy. I know what kind of world is possible with free energy wisely implemented (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced), and while some people seem to be able to glimpse it, almost nobody that I have ever met has been able to focus their awareness on what is important, as they fly off into all sorts of unproductive and suicidal directions, for the extremely few who can overcome their denial of free energy and key aspects of how the world really works.

7. In the years since Ventura, I have encountered some fellow travelers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), but it has really only been a relative few, and I have yet to meet anybody who has been through the meat grinder that Dennis and I went through and is still at it. Virtually anybody who had the slightest acquaintance with Godzilla and his minions was removed from the scene with the Golden Handcuffs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff), or their lives were destroyed if not prematurely ended. I saw many wrecked lives on my journey, and even prematurely ended ones (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey), and those will haunt me for the rest of my days, most of which I cannot publicly discuss, to protect both the innocent and the guilty.

8. In my several hundred attempts to interest various interests in free energy and its potential, and trading notes with my fellow travelers, I came to understand the many reactions to the idea of free energy, very few of them productive reactions, and put them into a framework that I have found to be a useful shorthand (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart).

9. I have only met or heard of one person like Dennis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), and am not looking for heroes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes). I am trying to help people shed their scarcity-based conditioning (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant ) for long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance).

10. That goal may seem modest, but I have yet to really encounter ten people on the planet who fully understand what I am trying to do – I am not sure that I have met even one yet, not in the fullness of what I am attempting, and what a lonely feeling that is. Ilie comes the closest that I have encountered at Avalon, and the thinking that he is doing on the subject (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=566311&viewfull=1#post566311) is the gold standard of what I am hoping to inspire people to do. That is really all that I am trying to do – help people think comprehensively (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing) and help them just imagine abundance, which will necessarily be built on energy abundance. Without energy abundance, the abundance ideas that people throw around in various circles cannot happen. Energy runs the world and always has, and energy scarcity has defined the human journey from the beginning. The brief periods of seeming peace and plenty were largely only the euphoria of quickly burning through a new energy resource until it was gone, whether that was megafauna, forests, soils, furs, whales, or fossil fuels. The dynamic of easy days of plunder, a plateau of thinking that a new level of life had been reached, and then the fitful and usually violent decline into oblivion when the energy ran out, is the prevailing dynamic of the human journey.

11. Humanity stands on the edge of the precipice today. We will either become truly sentient, and then we can have free energy and something that looks a lot like heaven on Earth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1), or we will continue on the fast train to oblivion that the industrialized world is on, and take most of the ecosystems with us. If we do, in twenty million years or so, the ecosystems will recover and maybe another potentially sentient species can try again. Will we get over the hump or crash? Each one of us will have to answer that question, and what we do, now, is likely going to determine how this plays out.

12. The key to turning the corner, in my opinion, is thinking like creators instead of victims, but virtually nobody on Earth is doing that today. The victim game is perhaps humanity’s oldest. The two predominant alternative views of the world, coming from the “left” and “right,” are united in their thinking like victims (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness), and are really no help at this stage of the free energy game, although it took me many years to finally understand.

That is a summary of where I have been and what I am trying to do. There are other paths to free energy and a healed planet, but I have not seen any others that I have any interest in, either because they are insanely dangerous (what Dennis, Greer, and Trombly have been doing, for instance), or they are engaged in by people who have literally no experience in the field and think that they know better, and have about zero chance of success. Almost every scientist in the free energy field is hopelessly naïve, and that problem plagues all scientists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd), but is a potentially fatal affliction in this field. As an example, the “skeptic” that has been attacking Dennis for more than fifteen years (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=410817&highlight=multiple+felony#post410817) has duped one of the leading free energy voices with this affable skeptic act. That is an example of potentially fatal naïveté. If that guy ever gets anything going, his naïveté will doom the operation. His affliction is almost universal in would-be free energy players, and my warnings have fallen on deaf ears so many times that I really do not want to have anything to do with the free energy field anymore. Virtually nobody on the free energy stage today has the right stuff, and Brian O said it rather subtly in our Camelot interview (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new).

Here is what have no interest in:

A. The inventor of the hour, trying to scale the ramparts with his gizmo tucked under his arm. Lately, have been getting bombarded with Keshe and Rossi, as they try the paths that have failed so many times in the past. Neither has even gotten to the waiting room to get on stage, and both seem pretty oblivious to those who have been there ahead of them. I really don’t want to watch.

B. Commiserating with my fellow travelers, about our adventures or planning the next attempt. Been there, done that. Swapping stories of raids, murder attempts, bankruptcies and the like is not something that I really enjoy doing, just like soldiers who really saw combat are not eager to discuss their experiences.

C. Desperate energy consumers around the world trying to lower their energy bills by squeezing more energy out of a gallon of gasoline, trying to turn cropland into a source for biofuels, putting up windmills, raping Earth to get geothermal energy, getting more efficient photovoltaics, and all of the other non-answers that get presented as some sort of solution. Forty years ago, I would have been interested in some of that, but not anymore. The zero-point field, which has many other names, is where the action is, and anything that is shooting lower is shooting far too low and too late. We have been in an emergency state for a long time, and only free energy is going to get us over the hump into a world that I would be interested in living in.

D. Coercing anybody for any reason, and that includes Godzilla. I seek to make Godzilla obsolete, and he might even be redeemed along the way, but my approach is very non-Godzilla-centric, unlike almost every other thread at Avalon. An early poster to this thread said that my work was the antithesis of what Avalon was all about, and I won’t disagree, but I seek people who have shed at least some of the blinders of their indoctrination, and I found Ilie, Sandy, and some others here, so this has not been a fruitless exercise. I am supremely happy that I am not in a forum infested by trolls (been there, done that, and never again http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll), and my intent was partly to attract people like David (formerly Tyler :) ), who came here because he read my work after Brian directed him to it.

E. Approaching the rich and powerful for help. I have watched that play out many times over the years, and it was not only a waste of time, but dangerous to FE efforts, both to the aspirants and to the elites who might poke their nose into it. If they did not wreck the effort by throwing their weight around, a horse’s head in their bed (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill), and the elites quickly go scrambling back to their mansions. While Bill Gates fancies himself as some kind of energy activist these days, and I ran into him not long ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates), I would not talk with him about free energy if he wanted to. It is seductive to think that some rich and powerful person is going to save the day, or the Space Brothers, or the Ascended Masters, but it is time to learn to paddle our own canoes, take responsibility for our lives and the world we live in, and stop trying to take the easy way out. Nothing about what I am advocating is in any way easy, but I am not asking anybody to risk their lives. Those who want to go play those life-risking games need to go find someplace else to play them.

Time for chores, but I hope to make a good Rome post this weekend.

Best,

Wade

meat suit
13th October 2012, 20:25
great post and thread Wade..

actually windpower is a fine thing, there is new legilation coming into force in Wales that puts wind turbines into permitted development. this means I can put up a wind turbine up to 11m high on private property as long as there is 13m distance to the next property in case it falls over. for me that means a sub £2000 turbine installation will throw 10kwh per day into my thermal store via immersion heater. I can then look out the window watch it go round and round..great...

I must read all of this thread.....

cheers
meat

Robert J. Niewiadomski
13th October 2012, 20:35
Hi

Looking at the map, have noticed word: SYLPHIUM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium) above LYBIA. It was a very looked for plant, which had a wide medical application. Believed to be a contraceptive - "a morning pill" of sorts. Sylphium, due to being endemic to the region was driven to extinction...

Noticed also that main use for northern Europe was AMBER. You can pick up shards of amber by hand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber#Distribution_and_mining), early in the morning when it is washed from the Baltic sea onto the beach. Some people are doing it for life in Poland...

ThePythonicCow
13th October 2012, 20:43
10kwh per day
Is that on an average day, including the days with little wind?


a sub £2000 turbine installation ... into my thermal store
I suppose that more cost and equipment is required to generate household electricity from that thermal store, or do you have some more direct use for that store?

sandy
13th October 2012, 21:32
And now back to>>>> gaining the "understanding and full comprehension" that the only worldly solution to all of Earths problems including a lack of sentient beings is FREE ENERGY!! ;)

meat suit
13th October 2012, 21:37
10kwh per day
Is that on an average day, including the days with little wind?


a sub £2000 turbine installation ... into my thermal store
I suppose that more cost and equipment is required to generate household electricity from that thermal store, or do you have some more direct use for that store?

hi Paul,
its constantly widy here on the coast in west Wales UK, 110m above sea level and 2 miles from the irish sea.
10kwh per day is an estimate: a 1kw wind turbine running for 20 hours per day at 500 watts (ie, only half power) 20 hours x 500watts = 10 kwh (kilo watt hours) per day...
the thermal store is a 320 litre insulated water tank in my house to which I cann add heat from 6 differrent sources:
1. 20kw wood burner boiler stove
2. solar thermal panels
3. oil fired boiler
4. 3kw mains electric immersion heater
5. 6kw mains electric immersion heater
6. 1kw 48 volt immersion heater plugged into the out put of 1kw wind turbine

I can extract heat from the thermal store to my radiators via pump or heat my hot water via internal heat exchanger coil.
it workes a dream, so far only added heat by wood burner.....the mains and oil devices are for backup only.
I wouldnt grid tie the wind turbine.... maybe later feed 4 x 12volt battery bank for lights or pumping round the radiators

cheers

meat

Wade Frazier
13th October 2012, 22:28
Hi:

I laughed when I saw Meat’s post. How do I write to somebody called Meat? I suppose the same way that I wrote to Tyler Durden. At least Dirk Diggler has not joined the thread yet, or Genghis Khan. :) If you make more posts here, Meat, somebody else might join with the moniker Fresh Meat. :)

In Brian O’s last years, he was looking for a research assistant to help crunch the numbers to show how unviable all the vanilla alternative energy technologies were – solar, wind, tides, geothermal, and especially biofuels. As with our DOE proposal:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

while I helped out Brian when I could, I wondered what he thought we were going to accomplish. Anybody with much experience with traditional alternatives knows the many downsides to them. Brian was intimately involved with those alternatives in his Capitol Hill days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall

All of them impact the environment, sometimes drastically, and their output is always far lower than that provided by fossil fuels. Comparing traditional alternatives to fossil fuels is like comparing a skate board to a Ferrari, and comparing traditional alternatives to free energy is like comparing a skate board to a rocket ship.

All of the traditional alternatives are materials intensive, sometimes using more energy to make and maintain them than the energy that they produce, such as biofuels. They usually have deleterious environmental impacts of operation, their performance is usually intermittent, so energy storage is an issue.

On windmills, not too long ago, to try commercial windmill activity in the USA was life-risking behavior:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill

but not anymore, so the abominations are going up all over the place. They can only go up in a relative few places. Islands like Hawaii and Great Britain get regular oceanic winds, so some people can put them up. One here and there is not going to solve humanity’s energy problems. Mass installations can be heard from miles off as they operate, they kill countless birds and they actually affect the wind on the lands behind them. FE deniers like Heinberg, when he is not advocating getting rid of several billion excess humans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

had advocated carpeting Earth with windmills to solve our energy problems. There is not enough wind on Earth that can be captured to even allow the current world population to have an American-level standard of living. FE leaps up orders of magnitude from such “solutions.” I suppose that those addicted to skate boards may not like hearing about rocket ships.

I have not mentioned it before because it is not really relevant to what I am trying to do, but Mr. Mentor also invented what would probably be the world’s best windmill about forty years ago, about the same time that he was inventing the world’s best engine for powering a car.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

He also came up with a way to desalinate water very cheaply, to the point where a front man for an Arab sheik almost made him an offer that he could not refuse.

The bottom line is that environmental energy sources are a very mixed bag and really don’t have the juice. Dennis’s heat pump is still the best heating system that the world market has ever seen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

but having a superior technology really does not mean much, when the entire game is rigged.

Hi Robert:

The Roman Empire drove many species to extinction, both plant and animal. There were lions and elephants in North Africa when Rome made its rise, but there weren’t many left before long.

http://web3.unt.edu/honors/eaglefeather/wp-content/2012/08/Elliott-Kidd-072012-se.pdf

I am probing my memory here, and I may have the find wrong, but I believe that when the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, or a similar scroll cache, found with them was a sealed clay jar with oil from a tree now believed to be extinct. It must have been a coveted oil to be saved that way. I think it was a tree whose name that would be familiar to many of us today. UPDATE: It was this find: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/16/world/balsam-oil-of-israelite-kings-found-in-cave-near-dead-sea.html, as I recall.

Yes indeed, Sandy my dear. I’ll try to stay on track. :)

Ah, doing this wrecked my opportunity to make another Rome post, but I’ll keep plunking along.

Best,

Wade

Ixopoborn
14th October 2012, 09:18
... That goal may seem modest, but I have yet to really encounter ten people on the planet who fully understand what I am trying to do – I am not sure that I have met even one yet, not in the fullness of what I am attempting, and what a lonely feeling that is. Ilie comes the closest that I have encountered at Avalon, and the thinking that he is doing on the subject (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post566311 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=566311&viewfull=1#post566311)) is the gold standard of what I am hoping to inspire people to do.


Don't count me out just yet Wade. Illie's post was good but nothing I had not already pondered about some time ago.

I really suspect this is true of other frequent viewers of this thread.

Threads can be a bit strange at times but essentially they are anonymised meeting places with excellent time shifting properties - except without body language so wires are more easily crossed etc. Also, some posts are more about punctuating dialogue than actually saying something sensible - very akin to interjections that occur in a circle of people discussing a topic. This chitter chatter, for want of another description, should not be too quickly written off. I know irrelevancies can be frustrating but ...

You are doing great work - It seems I am more with it than maybe my posts so far have suggested. Certainly, the depth in Illie's above-mentioned post exited no surprise or fear in me!

Wade Frazier
14th October 2012, 15:28
Hi Ibopoborn:

I said that Ilie was the gold standard of what I am looking for, and I said that others at Avalon were also promising, and I did not count you out, other than counting all of humanity out, as far as fully understanding what I am trying to do, but all artists can feel that way. :) It is one of the delusions that we have to wrestle with, but it is not all a delusion, either. This is tricky stuff to deal with.

Your posts are pretty astute, my friend. But I have long suspected that what I would like to teach really cannot be taught, but can only be learned in the crucible of harsh experience. But if everybody had to learn how I did, there would only be a few bedraggled survivors of the experience, licking their wounds and trying to eke out the rest of their days in peace. So, I am aiming lower, but still trying to initiate a stampede of sentient lambs. Time will tell if that strategy has a prayer, and I sympathize with impatient readers of this thread, but the biggest event in human history will not happen overnight, and maybe not in my lifetime. It is a lot harder than it looks.

Ilie began this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

which is the best I have seen and arguably the best on the Internet, and his contributions, over and over, show me that he gets it in ways that I have virtually never encountered before. Ilie is leery about getting this prominent treatment from me, but he never has to do anything more than what he is already doing to make a mighty contribution to this effort, and I only use him as an example of the kinds of responses that I am looking for. I think that his scientific background helps him immensely, which is partly why I think that some scientific literacy is key for the people that I plan to attract to what I am going to try to do. Yes, Internet forums are a mixed bag. I am using them as I can, and as I have stated, when I get the conversation going that I envision, it will not have anonymous members. Funny, I just awoke from a dream where my Internet work got me in trouble at my day job. Last month, I was asked by a former CFO, who is somewhat familiar with Wade’s World, why I do not write anonymously (he never heard about my other life while I worked for him, which is a policy that I still do my best to follow). For several reasons, that will not work, and I don’t want to even try. I have never made anonymous posts in forums. That I am interacting with anonymous people at all means that it is not really the crowd that I have in mind, and that crowd is not going to get anything important done, but I have to throw my line in the water someplace to begin. Again, only a few people on the planet are close to understanding what I am attempting at this time, so there is no place to find a bunch of them hanging out.

I hear you on the chit-chat, but I am obviously shooting for something deeper. We aren’t going to get over the hump unless enough of us can go deep. There are many problems with what I am doing, one of which is that if I tried to have a physical gathering, Godzilla’s minions would arrive, and one of their specialties is wrecking lives, and they can get violent. Doing it this way lessens the intimacy, but puts fewer people at risk. The Avalon crowd would mostly be lambs to the slaughter for Godzilla’s minions. They are good at what they do, and I have watched them gull people, supposedly smart and worldly ones, almost effortlessly:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400493&viewfull=1#post400493

It looks like I won’t be making another Rome post this weekend, as I have to go to work soon, but let me make a post about a thread-related topic: paranormal phenomena. Yesterday, I spent a few hours reading Robert McLuhan’s Randi’s Prize, which was about his scholarly assessment of paranormal investigations and comparing them to how the “skeptics” deal with such issues. Not surprisingly for me, the “skeptics” don’t come off looking so good. While in what I have read so far in the book the author does not accuse the “skeptics” of dishonesty, the “skeptics” are probably the most dishonest group that I have yet encountered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

and I just wrote about my personal “favorite” in yesterday’s post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=568364&viewfull=1#post568364

But even the seemingly most honest “skeptic” that I have yet encountered, Susan Blackmore (and the only female “skeptic” that I have yet encountered, which is likely not a coincidence) also comes off badly in McLuhan’s book, which is no surprise to me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#blackmore

McLuhan made great observations that bring up the question of why Randi is taken seriously at all. That establishment science has ceded him the stage on paranormal investigations is like Americans getting their political philosophy from Rush Limbaugh and their information from Fox News. Randi is anything but evenhanded in his investigations, and his tenor is very much like Rush Limbaugh’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#randi

and it is no surprise that one of his acolytes is Mr. Skeptic. Although McLuhan’s book was a scholarly investigation, he made a clear distinction between experiences of the paranormal and beliefs about them. The “skeptics” tend to dismiss people who have had NDEs as a bunch of religious fanatics, when anybody familiar with the literature and research knows that that is anything but true (it is similar to the anti-vegetarian crusaders portraying all vegetarians as PETA fanatics http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#fanatic). Beliefs and experiences are two very different things. The sloppy irrationality of conflating them is ironic coming from self-appointed spokespeople for science and reason, but it is standard behavior among the “skeptics.”

And that brings me to the point of this post, which is about experience. There is no substitute for experience, and especially for phenomena far outside the mainstream’s daily experience, such as an NDE or the pursuit of FE. Unless somebody has had actual experience with those kinds of “beyond-the-pale” issues, they are very difficult to really understand. I have not required anybody to have hands-on experience in the FE field before I take them seriously. In fact, I generally do the opposite and actively discourage FE newbies from taking the plunge and trying to make an FE device in their garage or go chasing after FE in the marketplace. That is life-risking behavior, and one challenge of doing my work on the Internet, especially at someplace like Avalon, is that my work sits on the same site where baseless rumors abound, with conspiratorial musings about lens flares from SOHO being star gates and other tabloid topics. So, people tend to put my Avalonian work onto the unreality shelf with the other tabloid stuff, or they don’t quite take it seriously, as in a concrete reality, or they vastly underestimate the reality. It does not help that if you Google Dennis, the first two pages of results repeat the “scam” mantra almost without exception, like a drumbeat, with the slimy Mr. Skeptic leading the chant. Even Dennis’s “allies” in the FE field do the same thing, which only reinforces the primary lesson of my journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

More than one Avalonian has followed my lead and pursued the Silva Method, which was the vehicle of my mystical awakening nearly forty years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

The “remote viewing” exercise that ends the Silva training is how many prominent scientists discarded the materialism of establishment science. It wrecked Brian O as an establishment scientist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote

and I did not know it at the time, but my mystical awakening would eventually wreck me as an establishment scientist.

I am sorry to report that the Silva training has become a shadow of its former self. When I took the Silva class in 1974, it was a forty-hour training. Today, it is less than half of that. The most important part of the class is the exercises, and those were about half of the forty hour class. To cut the class in half is a bad idea, IMO, and one of my long-time Silva instructor pals called it “Silva Lite,” in tones of humorous disgust, when they came out with that “half class” many years ago. Silva was a great class for people to attain their first mystical experiences, but I am not so sure anymore. I also had a report where one seeker of a Silva class was talked into some $4K “life coaching” class before she knew what hit her. When José died, the Silva effort fragmented into several competing classes, led by his family members, both blood relatives and in-laws. It seems like some fragmenting dynasty, with several potential heirs seeking to establish their own fiefdoms. In ways, it is no different than how the world’s religions fragmented after the prophets died, with none of their disciples really understanding the masters’ messages. It seems to be the nature of the beast.

While my Silva experience was the beginning of my mystical awakening, it did not seem like an unusual experience at the time. Others seemed to have similar ones, but years later, it seems like what I had was more spectacular than most, but certainly no more spectacular than Brian’s or others I know of. But a voice in my head led me to the two most critical junctures of my life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

I have not heard of anybody else ever having an experience like that, not with such overwhelming outcomes. It was the second instance, landing me into the middle of Dennis’s operation, that I still look back on and wonder if it really happened, and I was the one living it. People around me kind of deny that those events happened, and I am not sure quite why, but it seems to be that to even acknowledge stuff like that stretches their sense of reality out of shape. How can somebody be led to potentially world-changing events by a voice in their head? It seems too much like the movies, and daily life is not a movie.

My ride with Dennis was the education of my next ten lifetimes, but I would not wish that learning experience on anybody. That was a high-abrasion way to learn, and only people like Dennis can stay on that hot seat for long. My youth was partly what allowed me to survive the experience, and I saw many others crumble in mere days, and some were allegedly tough guys, and I had to bury one of the saints of my journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

which will haunt me forever. I wrestled with delusions of grandeur at times:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

which is a hazard of that path, as it is all so much larger than life that few can even believe what we lived through. Even my own mother campaigned against me:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492

That stuff can mess you up, to put it bluntly, but, believe it or not, what my mother did was an inconsequential nuisance compared to the other events that I was living through. I only use her as an example because she can no longer be hurt by revealing her deeds. Others will have to die or become demented before I can provide many other examples.

When I went to see UFOs at James Gilliland’s place:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

or was invited to go swim with wild dolphins:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#dolphins

or had my experiences in channeled sessions, I received experiences that seemed “normal” and what I came there to witness, but I was told later that I was getting the special treatment. My dolphin guide had been guiding people almost daily for twenty years, but he never before saw the show that I received, while in my ignorance I thought that wild dolphins jumping over my head was what all “tourists” experienced. My first five minutes of my first channeling session was remembered years later by the channel’s wife, as it was so spectacular:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=193270&viewfull=1#post193270

So I may be erring in directing people toward something like Silva or James’s ranch, setting them up for disappointment when they don’t get the show that I did. Sorry about that.

But I know that if somebody is really sincere about the seeking, they will get the experience, at some level. I never approached the Silva class, or my Seth channelings, or going to James’s Ranch, or swimming with wild dolphins, as some kind of “skeptic” who dared the event to happen. I went to have an experience, sometimes traveling great distances, although I certainly kept my mind open and did not abandon my critical faculties. As James told me, the ETs respond best to a heartfelt human desire for the encounter. I am not making it a matter of faith, but having the desire to have the experience, and be willing to relinquish your idea of how it has to happen, is a key, I think. If you approach it as a “skeptic,” daring it to happen, or you go with your ego inflated or are set in your expectations of how it has to happen, you are not going to get the kinds of experiences that I did. I am not saying that people need to abase themselves in false humility, either. It is more like, “Ask, and you shall receive, but you may get what you need more than what you want.” But with that voice in my head, I doubt that I will be asking again, although I have been recently asked to perform some tall healing tasks. I know that I am only a vehicle for the events, not the source, so I may end up asking for help once again, and we will see what happens. The road that that voice sent me on was a little too rough. Twice in a lifetime was plenty for me. :) Be careful of what you wish for, and treading cautiously in these realms is good advice, IMO. Balancing an attitude of seeking with retaining one’s critical faculties is not easy. It is like walking that razor’s edge that I repeatedly refer to.

Time for a long day at the office.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th October 2012, 18:39
Hi:

Before I go out the door (too many household chores have delayed my departure for the office), I just saw this post on nuking Japan:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-10-14/real-reason-america-used-nuclear-weapons-against-japan

Which is very similar to my account of the subject:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping

Not fun stuff, but should be required reading for flag-waving Americans. Look at all the flag-waving derision and sophistry directed at the post in the comments section. Typical.

Best,

Wade

Kiforall
15th October 2012, 02:09
Here you go Wade, if we all come together as one do you reckon this is bordering on happening?
Building crystal grids to exchange energies from one universe to another?
Could building a pyramid ( Egypt comes into mind ) bring the energy of the stone work together in such a way that the frequency allowed the transfer of energy from our planet to others and back again.
I love positive feedback loops, very simple but true.

A boy of 8yrs builds a crystal diamond pyramid grid and explains how the rocks of the Earth hold, carry, give off and exchange energy with the universe that can help to heal us and increase intelligence. I need to go back and read some more Terry Pratchett LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gATik...1&feature=plcp

Wade Frazier
15th October 2012, 06:09
I was reading another Zero Hedge post:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-14/why-are-americans-so-easy-manipulate

and Dennis was right in the middle of those Skinner days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#skinner

I did not write about it in detail, but because Dennis was at the top of his class, as usual, he was a special invitee to that Skinner conference, sitting in a special section. This was after his mystical awakening with his shot gun in his mouth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice

Dennis told me that he stormed out of that conference in the middle of it, and made a scene as he gave Skinner a hearty “Sieg Heil!” replete with the Nazi salute. He then dropped out of college, when all he had to do was turn in some paperwork to graduate. That scenario was rather typical for Dennis. He would back up his dramatic talk with dramatic action.

That all happened in about 1972, right at the peak of Skinner’s fame. Thank God for people like Uncle Noam:

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19711230.htm

In ways, Dennis’s life has been like Forrest Gump’s, as far as him being right in the thick of historic events, at times unwittingly.


Hi Kiforall:

If we came together as one, FE would be laughably easy to do. A hundred heroes could do it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

but I mean heroes like this:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

However, I only have only met or heard of one person like that, so that way will probably not work, not now.

If there were a thousand spear carriers like I was, and ten heroes, that could also work, but I only met a few spear carriers, and buried the best one I ever met:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

as he basically died from his wounds. I believe that I did not mention it before, but none of his family was there at his funeral, other than his widow, their adopted daughter and her family. His journey, and what an incredibly heroic one it was, ended up wrecking his family relationships, which is par for the course, I am sorry to say.

So, what then? What can overcome humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression? Make no mistake about it; FE is the most suppressed technology on Earth, by far:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

The kind of world that I have been imagining for most of my life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance) is also one that Godzilla and friends are desperately trying to ensure does not manifest, because all Godzilla can see is losing his power. Sacrificing humanity and the planet is a price that Godzilla is very willing to pay, but cooler heads may prevail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

But I am not going to sit around and wait for the so-called White Hats to come save humanity from itself. We need to do the work, or at least enough to avoid the abyss. FE is probably as essential for avoiding the abyss as it is to manifesting heaven on Earth. Of course there are downsides to an unenlightened implementation of FE, and partly what I am doing (which is trying to find several thousand like Ilie, and they will need some education and training) is to create a nugget of heart-centered sentience that can serve to catalyze not only FE, but also its enlightened implementation.

That is my game. That link that you posted does not work, or at least I could not see it.

As far as the technological end of things goes, those problems were solved long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I am not too beholden to any particular technology, although a solid-state device that taps the zero-point field, like what Sparky Sweet had (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet), is probably the way to go. If there are other technologies that can get the same result – abundant, harmless energy, then it is fine by me. Godzilla’s Golden Hoard is pretty huge, so there is probably a range of FE technologies to choose from, if we can get over the hump. I believe that the ZPF is likely divine in nature, and until we can muster the sufficient level of heart-centered intention, our species will not get the benefit of it. I see it as a chicken-and-egg conundrum, and I believe that people doing the spiritual work are doing good and probably necessary work toward that end. I am not really on the technology end of it, at least that is not my emphasis, but I am trying to work with people’s heads. I found that unless their heart was in the right place, first, I could not reach them. So, I have kept stumbling down my path for many years, trying to get something to work, and raising awareness of the reality and potential of FE, which I found necessarily means laying aside our conditioning:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

is what I have been doing for more than twenty years now, after I got handed my head while in the FE trenches.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th October 2012, 13:55
Hi:

The story of Rome played out all over the Old World many times, but Rome took it to new scales. There is an ideal of the Noble Savage, living in harmony with nature. That is largely a myth, due to modern peoples looking backward to idyllic times when life was supposedly more innocent. I won’t belabor the megafaunal extinctions, as I have written about them plenty:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=539852&viewfull=1#post539852

Sophisticated tools, the control of fire, group hunting tactics - these allowed humans to wrench energy from the environment like no animal ever before. They ran through the energy as fast as their technologies allowed them to. As far as biologists can tell, that is something that any life form will do if it has the chance. That is a cornerstone of Ward’s Medea Hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_Hypothesis

Humans are just another animal that tries to maximize its energy usage, and if it ends up driving other species to extinction, so what? Every spring, lakes in temperate climates have algal blooms, where the detritus from the previous autumn can be digested by the algae. The algae digest the nutrients as fast as they can, and the so-called detritus ecosystem flourishes until the nutrients are all used up, and then the ecosystem dies off until the next spring. The same thing happens in the oceans. Going back to Liebig’s Law:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

the nutrient that is in shortest supply limits the ecosystem’s growth, and even leads to its demise. In water, the limiting nutrient is usually nitrogen or phosphorus. The phytoplankton will use all the nutrients it can get ahold of, reproducing fiercely, and fueling the ecosystem until the critical nutrient is used up, and then the ecosystem collapses, the organisms all die and sink to the floor of the body of water. That is how organic sediments form. They form annual layers like tree rings that scientists have learned to read. That is essentially how our oil deposits were formed, on a grand scale, with global extinction events. Ocean sediments can be easily discerned bewteen limestone sediments when ecosystems are healthy, and the black shales that mark extinction events, which is when oil formation began. Ironically, the extinction events usually provide the best fossils, because when the dead animals fall to the floor of the body of water, the life on the floor has been killed off, usually by an anoxic event, so nothing eats the dead bodies and they eventually fossilize. There are other methods of preservation theorized, such as brine seeps, but most of the great fossil beds were likely laid down in anoxic conditions. They had high carbon content because nothing ate them.

Peak Oilers such as Heinberg:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

have written that with that heritage of eating up the resources until they were gone, humans can perhaps be forgiven for burning through one energy resource after another for the past 50,000 years or so, with the current orgy of plundering fossil fuel deposits until they are all gone. So while Heinberg is sympathetic, it really brings up the issue of whether humanity is a sentient species. Achieving the social organization and technological prowess to exploit new energy sources is the primary story of the human journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct

and I have seen humans described as wired to ceaselessly pursue windfall economic gains by plundering energy resources until they are exhausted. Well, humans are, but the test of our sentience is dead ahead, as those fossil fuels quickly disappear out our tailpipes and up our chimneys, providing us momentary power and heat.

Rome was merely a large-scale version of those activities that all life has been doing for all time. Rome did it because it could. In J. Donald Hughes’s An Environmental History of the World, he wrote that when Rome was still young, not far removed from those shepherds' huts, there was still nature-worship, with people trying to appease the gods of nature. That eventually gave way to the utilitarian motivation of maximizing short-term economic gain, exploiting those windfall economic opportunities. Historians generally use the multi-causal reasoning for Rome’s collapse, but Tainter has the right of it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter), I think, in that decreasing marginal returns on investments to hold the civilization together is the primary cause of the decline and collapse of all civilizations, and that the investment is always primarily in the form of energy, because it provides the driving force of all life and all civilizations. Droughts were often the crowning blow, but they were generally just the coup de grâce for an overstretched civilization.

So, the rampant deforestation:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=562534&viewfull=1#post562534

the prodigious waste of human and animal lives in the arenas, mines, and plantations, the ravages of plow agriculture, all contributed to Rome cutting its legs out from under itself eventually.

And here we come to a subject fraught with controversy, at least in my mind – the subject of the epidemic diseases that swept through the Empire. I believe that the germ theory of disease is wanting. Until the pleomorphic dynamics discovered by Béchamp and his professional descendants are explored by White Science:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=498894&highlight=naessens#post498894

we will continue to have the insanity of orthodox cancer “treatment” consisting entirely of novel ways of attacking tumors, vaccination as a way of “preventing” disease:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination

and other disasters, such as the open fraud of fluoridation:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=512641&highlight=bent#post512641

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm

The great plagues virtually always happened in a stressed civilization. Athens was at war, under siege, when its great plague hit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic#Pandemics_and_notable_epidemics_through_history

The overstretched Roman Empire had two great plagues, beginning in 165 AD, which decimated the Empire, with a third one wiping out about half of Europe’s population after the final collapse of Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_of_Justinian

A thousand years later, when the Medieval Warm Period saw skyrocketing populations and awesome deforestation in Europe and elsewhere, as the Little Ice Age began, a generation after the first great medieval famine hit, then came the Black Death:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

Weakened populations experienced the great epidemics. There is the issue of immunity and where our epidemic diseases came from, but it is widely acknowledged, even in orthodox circles, that improvements in nutrition and sanitation get the credit for the greatly improving life expectancy in the industrialized world, not interventions like vaccination. Vaccination almost certainly does far more harm than good, and may well be at least partly behind the epidemic of degenerative disease in the West, where two-thirds of its inhabitants die of easily prevented degenerative disease (where the immune system fails), with the Western treatments worse than worthless, such as bypass surgery:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bypass

orthodox cancer “therapy”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket

and so on.

Even the New World’s natives experienced their great epidemics while their civilizations were under siege from the Europeans, the Spanish in particular. How much of what happened in the New World was native souls deciding to “get out of Dodge” rather than suffer the brutal consequences of conquest and life under the Spaniards and their rivals from Europe? That may always be an open question for me.

Time to rush off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th October 2012, 03:51
Hi:

We will see if I can find some time in the morning for a good post, but before I go to bed, here is something I saw today on the health of Earth’s soils:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/10/no-till-farming-practices/

that is germane to this thread. Pretty much the only stable soils are in the arctic, mountains or deserts – where the land is not arable. Virtually everything else is either degraded or very degraded. The Old World is far more degraded than the New World. No-till farming, while it conserves the soil matter, is dependent on chemicals that take the place of what plowing does. Neither is a good thing for the health of the ecosystems.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
17th October 2012, 05:02
Hm, I am surprised to see that the area designated as "Amazon Forest" is marked with "degraded soil" but for a very small area (probably just along the river bed).

Wade Frazier
17th October 2012, 14:54
Hi Ilie:

I was also a little surprised to see the Amazon like that, but it is similar to Africa’s rain forest. Both have been under siege for a while. In the USA, environmentalists have been calling attention for a couple of generations to how fast the Amazon has been getting destroyed for “development.” Recently, Brazil has slowed the rate of destruction, but yes, that is a sobering image.

OK, a little on Rome before I go to work. This is the religion post. As far as anthropologists can tell, every early civilization had religion, and the religion was either invented or corrupted into portraying the elites as divine personages. Also, in a world of scarcity, everything “pure” gets corrupted into a way of getting fed. Again, I’ll buy the idea that Jesus, Buddha, and some others had the Infinite Spirit manifest through them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#infinite

and some parts of their message have made it into the religions erected in their names, as distorted as they likely are. The good/evil aspect of the Judaic/Christian/Islamic religions came from the teachings of Zoroaster:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#diaspora

During the rise of Rome, however, none of those ideologies were very influential, and Rome was officially Pagan, freely borrowing religious ideas from others, incorporating various deities into its Pantheon. Influenced by the humanist Greeks in particular, in Roman religion, it was kind of anything goes, as long as the religions always bent a knee to the elites, the Emperor in particular. After my mystical awakening, The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ was my bedside companion for about two years.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#aquarian

It is the closest that I have ever been to being religious, but it was a lot different than the usual Christian Bible study. Seth’s books were also my bedtime companions in those days. I consider it very possible that the manifestations of the Infinite Spirits through those masters helped humanity along. Even with all the distortion and corruption, the message of love still rings loudly in what has come to us about Jesus. The Creator’s love is still the greatest message ever given to humanity, IMO. Paul began corrupting the divine message from Jesus into the message about Jesus. Paul was a mass-market guy, watering down the message, which he likely really did not understand very well in the first place, into something that could be sold to the masses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#corrupt

While the message of all the masters is based on love, all organized religions are based on fear. That is the problem with religion in a world of scarcity. That is the problem with any ideology in a world of scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

In Michael Parenti’s History as Mystery, he makes the case that Christianity quickly moved from its humble, communal roots to a religion of the elites. The early proselytizers, with their already corrupted message, targeted the elites. Early Christianity was considered by the Roman authorities to be a splinter Jewish sect, which it was, and early Christians were persecuted, but it was not nearly so bad as what the Manicheans endured. The Romans tried to exterminate the pacifistic Manicheans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#mani

and the Catholic Church exterminated their ideological descendants, the Cathars, a thousand years after Rome’s extermination efforts on the Manicheans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#cathar

I get a little ahead of myself in my Rome narrative, but when the Empire began to fall apart after its two-hundred year period of “peace” that Tacitus wrote so astutely about:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tacitus#Agricola_.2898.29

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=556408&highlight=tacitus#post556408

the bread and circuses did not work as well as they had, and famine dotted the Empire, with Rome looking anxiously for the boats from Africa to come feed them in the spring. Hungry people revolted, and by the time of Constantine, the Peace of Rome was long gone, with famine, civil war, invasion, and plague wreaking their havoc. Constantine moved the seat of the Empire away from Rome in 330 AD, establishing Constantinople:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople

That move was merely a nod to the inevitable, as Rome’s ways cut the legs out from under it. What Constantine did in 325 AD, however, had longer-lasting impact. He convened a meeting of the officials of that Jewish splinter sect, and the cult of Jesus became a state religion for the first time. It also was when plenty of editing of the scriptures took place, to serve the needs of the state, so most of Jesus’s life is completely missing from the Gospels as we know them today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#masada

The Catholic Church became infamous the world over for its book-burning excesses, but its greatest deed may have been its first, when it removed the parts of the Gospels that did not serve the needs of the crumbling Empire. So, as distorted as it was, the life of Jesus made the Big Time, and is credited with eventually ending the gladiatorial games. Many Pagan rituals became incorporated into the Christian ones, to mass market the religion.

Michael Parenti, however, also made the case that the book-burning fervor of the Catholic Church is what actually brought on the Dark Ages that followed the collapse of Rome, and I can see his point. The humanist Greek teachings, including all of its philosophy, math, science, engineering, and the like were all burned by the Church authorities as Pagan. Europe only began learning about the Classic Greek teachings when Islamic libraries were seized when the Christian armies began to conquer the Iberian Peninsula after several hundred years of “darkness” in Europe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

Europe’s “discovery” of the Greek teachings is what led it from its Dark Ages to the rise of reason and science, although it was anything but a smooth transition.

I have a few more minutes before I have to rush off to work, so I’ll go backward to the days of the Republic. Again, Rome was a latecomer to the game in the Mediterranean, with the rise and fall of several great civilizations over the millennia, from the Egyptians to the Minoans to the Mycenaeans to the Phoenicians to the Athenians to the Macedonians, and so on, with imperial forays in the Levant and eastern Mediterranean from the Fertile Crescent (that part of the world may be the world’s most eroded, as it has suffered under “civilization” the longest).

Carthage was descended from the Phoenicians, the Greeks had been colonizing the southern end of the Italian Peninsula for centuries, and the Etruscans were very possibly not from the area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_origins#Genetic_evidence

as the late, great Gore Vidal once wrote, history is nothing more than the bloody migrations of tribes, and along the periphery of the Mediterranean it was doubly true. While Rome was rising, the Etruscans and the Carthaginians were battling the Greeks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alalia

Rome would eventually conquer all of those peoples, but for hundreds of years, it was a slow rise to power for Rome, with alliances as important as conquests.

OK, time for work.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
17th October 2012, 22:33
Hi,

The Roman empire has also left its mark on the state of Israel, during the Roman occupation that lasted 400 years, the name 'Palestine' was given to Israel which was coined in the fifth century BC by Herodotus, describing the domain of the Philistines along the southern coastal plain. it is a common mistake to believe that today Arab-Palestinians has anything to do with this ancient etnical group. Todays Palestinians did not exist back then. The jews who were the majority of the population in Israel, tried to strongly oppose the Roman rule.

Despite the brutality of the Roman empire and its corruptions, the Romans were great engineers and archirtects. they paved roads wherever they could, a very wide roads that allowed the passage of chariots and freight wagons. they were also known for having a good sewage system and rainwater drainage, they offered an advanced public toilets! but in order to do all that, they had to occupy the land.

It is interesting to read Wade's Rome narrative, because it gives a clear example on how it was using and abusing every part of the earth under their control, much like prior societies, they might have been more efficient with their energy inventions such as reserving water (aqueducts) and sewage systems but they ruined themselves and the land for the consumption of energy, and with the invasion of barbarian tribes , again the same old fights over energy sources.

Such is life?

Wade Frazier
18th October 2012, 04:50
Hi Limor:

I think it was "life" in the past and it is today, but that can change. If I didn’t think so, I certainly would not have devoted my life to changing it! :) Just as slavery is not human “nature,” I doubt that fighting over energy resources and wiping them out and each other is human “nature.” Or if it is our “nature,” we can change our nature. Yes, Rome’s imprint has been long lasting. Ruins of Roman roads, buildings, aqueducts and the like litter Western Europe and the periphery of the Mediterranean. Some of their sewers are still in use, as I recall.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
18th October 2012, 08:32
Hi Wade,

Thanks , I feel I have a firm knowing about the coming change. I must first of all grasp it with my mind, this is why your comprehensive posts are so benefiting. such is life? you say it was and it still is, but the buds of change are starting to bloom, ignited by our own desire for change and by getting ourselves familiar with the tools that are actually there. it is a process. How come we didn't know about this toolbox? How come we are not aware to our own creative abilities? The laws of physics are not as limited as we think. A little more pressure and more people will desire change and even request it within themselves. in this respect, I am very greateful for 'them', they are simply doing a 'job'. FE is a classic in all respects, and it is here. It is working. It exists. although repressed, there is a logic in this madness. without any conscious plan you went pursuing your childhood dream of changing the current energy paradigm, this journey has given you some deep insights, it is a little strange, it is as if you were also an observor while being a participant while playing the game, which does not at all feel like a game. not everyone can do that.

During the days of the Roman Empire, everyone knew that Rome was the center of all life, - 'All ways lead to Rome,' so they say, well, It might be sufficient to say that this world's 'Rome' is FREE ENERGY.

I have made my own list of things following Ilie's thread of what is to become obsolete in a world implemented and operated by FE technology and what can be achieved. (I am a slow reader and everything takes time for me to sink, so only now I am reaching it) and what a healthy and supportive and nourishing place it is going to be! everything is within our reach, and by learning from the Romans (talk about the devil:)) there is no tangible harm can be done by imagining FE, (if Wade's 'storm' does not hit), maybe by doing that a road would be paved and it will be so wide and so well imagined that it will allow the few to embark on it and than all the rest will follow.

Someone has mentioned having fun while at it, so I hope it's OK to dwell a little on the 'know thyself' aspect of things, well, with a twist..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOpO0IpcHw


Have a good day/night all!

With love,

Limor

Wade Frazier
19th October 2012, 03:40
Hi Limor:

One thing is for sure: change is coming, big change. Either industrialized civilization will collapse as the Four Horsemen stampede across Earth, sweeping up humanity before them, or we will attain the level of sentience required to not only escape that fate, but bring something that looks like heaven on Earth into being. There is probably little middle ground, or if there is, I sure don’t want to live in a world with George Bush the Eighth on stage, invading some hapless nation that happens to be sitting on something that the imperial society covets, or the Chinese doing it, or the peoples of the Indian subcontinent, etc., or us somehow eking out an existence via riding bikes and other austerity measures – those paths are highly unappealing to me, and likely about everybody at Avalon and anybody who is sane. The stakes are so high that it can be very difficult, both mentally and emotionally, to begin to wrap your awareness around it. Again, I did not decide on this “needles in haystacks” approach because I like looking for them. It was the result of many long years in the pursuit; barely surviving my years with Dennis, reaching out for allies in all the likely spots, and having the door slammed in my face zillions of times, and being actively attacked regularly. Some of my attackers have been on Godzilla’s payroll, but most are merely defending their niche of hell from the threat of heaven. Trading notes with fellow travelers such as Brian O:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

were only data points that further confirmed what I was seeing. Nobody is home, anywhere on the planet, except for a stray person here and there. Needles are all that I have to work with. The groups that we thought might be receptive to the idea of FE were not only fast asleep on the issue, but the few that weren’t usually treated FE as the enemy, such as environmentalists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

Peak Oilers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg

and the like. Because of my many years in the mystical community, I tried that avenue too, to no avail. Not only is the charlatanry thick in New Age circles, so is self-centered narcissism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

I can’t get on their case too much, as they are just like virtually all other groups. They are primarily spiritual hobbyists, and critical thinking is not much in evidence there, with most New Age stuff at about the kindergarten level of understanding, and they are almost all scientifically illiterate, easily led astray by the gurus of the moment, as they build their harems and fortunes.

Other potential allies, where the members are highly “intelligent,” have been proven to be quite obtuse:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

It took many years of dismaying experiences to where I finally saw that all of that denial, derision, and outright fear was rooted in an addiction to scarcity. People had carved out their niches in hell and were not about to budge. As I stated, they worship the devils they know:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

because that is how they get fed. Of course, their egos do not want to admit it, so you can have the disheartening experience where some of the “smartest” people you ever met say some of the stupidest things you ever heard. That is due to fear in its many guises, IMO. That is why I keep saying that love is the answer, but that is far easier said than done, in a world of scarcity. That is why trying to sneak past people’s ego mechanisms, to kind of subtly lead them to the light, is almost the opposite of what I am trying to do. The needles in haystacks will have a thirst for the truth and chase after it. This is not something that people should be cajoled or manipulated into or spoon fed, as that can easily lead to disaster. We are not going to trick ourselves or others into making FE happen. The needles will not settle for the pabulum that establishment ideologues serve up, or take anybody’s word for much, but will go find out for themselves. Again, I have almost never met anybody like that, especially those who had that framework consistently applied. They would almost inevitably get trapped in the scarcity-based ideology of their choice, and their fears kept them in close orbit to those ideologies, and that prevented their comprehension and wrecked their ability to sing the abundance song.

Again, there are other ways to FE, and people are welcome to them (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=566401&viewfull=1#post566401), usually at risk to their lives and those around them as they try to go pet the killer bunny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg). I am trying to do something unique, and I have no idea if it will work, mainly because I may not be able to find enough people like Ilie, and maybe I don’t have the right stuff, but if I ever see anybody doing this the way I think it needs to be done to have a prayer of success, I will gladly step aside and maybe even carry their spears, as I am wont to do. I have not met or heard of anybody able and willing yet.

Most FE newbies try to shoehorn the abundance paradigm into their scarcity-based understandings (pouring that new wine into old skins), and try to play the Level 10 game, the Level 7 game, and so on (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level7). We can’t get to FE via our frightened egos, but by our loving souls, or whatever we want to call that larger sense of self that includes all of Creation, or at least all life on Earth. Ilie understands what I am doing to the extent where he hits notes that I virtually never have the pleasure of hearing. It is a union of heart and head, and of right brain and left brain, which is extremely rare, but some are getting it, and it is something that I plan to build on. If you looked at what I am trying to do, “realistically,” it does not have a prayer, but I have to try. I have seen the miracles happen when they were least expected (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it), but they only happened when the need was great, and I know of no greater need for our species but to get off the sleigh ride to oblivion that we are all on these days, with Godzilla’s minions leading the procession in fiendish delight, with their survival enclaves built as they ready themselves for the catastrophe. It can be a supremely happy ending for all, in ways that would boggle our minds, if enough of us only woke up to the reality and promise of FE and kept our eye on the ball. That is my goal.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
19th October 2012, 04:05
Hi:

Because of some recent events and interactions, I am going to take a brief detour from the Rome part of my human journey posts and spend a little time on experience and its importance on these realms. I am going to describe in some detail a number of key experiences of my journey, what they were like, what I learned, and how they helped define my path. It is not all about FE, not by any means, but as I found with my fellow travelers, all paths lead to FE, if healing humanity and the planet is the goal. I have laid out plenty of my experiences on this thread and on my site, but not in the detail that I am about to go into, so that the reader can come closer to seeing the experiences as I lived them. I have lived through many larger than life events, witnessed others, and it can really be something to live through them, consciously aware at times how stupendous they were, but in other ways they seemed quite “normal.” When a voice spoke up in my head, or I saw people perform psychically as a prelude to my duplicating their feats, or walking into events that were so ridiculously over-the-top that at times I think back on those events and kind of wonder if they happened, they all had their impact. So, I will take off my scholar’s hat for a few days and don my adventurer's hat. There are some at Avalon and elsewhere who want and need to get some insight into the process. I will also provide some details about adventures like Dennis’s.

There is a kind of historian called a war historian, and some of them do not write about war to discuss the motives of the various participants, or what the political-economic ramifications of the outcomes were. They cut to the chase, writing with great gusto about how battles played out, getting into the realism of the battlefield so that the reader can almost smell the gunpowder and hear the artillery and groans and shrieks. I am not too into that kind of history, although it has its place:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#sledge

But I am going to try to bring the reader with me into my memories, as I relive events that may be helpful as people pursue the subjects that I write about. I do it for those who pursue similar experiences, to let them know what I saw, in the hope that it helps them somewhere down the road.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
19th October 2012, 05:02
Sometimes I hope that the desire in our hearts is good enough .

Ixopoborn
19th October 2012, 13:33
I am trying to do something unique, and I have no idea if it will work, mainly because I may not be able to find enough people like Ilie, and maybe I don’t have the right stuff ...
Wade




But I am going to try to bring the reader with me into my memories, as I relive events that may be helpful as people pursue the subjects that I write about. I do it for those who pursue similar experiences, to let them know what I saw, in the hope that it helps them somewhere down the road.
Wade


Wade, I feel for you in this process you describe. As you know, in my own small way - and certainly a much smaller way than you, I have gone through all sorts of personal tortures over the issue of the FE and why its introduction is so efficiently but brutally blocked. Like you, I think, I am past making posts about how great FE would be - to do so seems so completely redundant.

I love reading your posts. Your posts and a highly personal intervention from a face to face friend saved me from slipping into a horrible depression over the issue of FE. I love the way you have described the history of humans in terms of energy extraction, surplus's then followed by crashes in supply and destruction of whole civilizations.

I sense your concern and hope we can find a way through.

Wade Frazier
19th October 2012, 15:00
Hi:

OK, this will be a series of posts on my life’s experiences. It is going to be pretty intimate, and I will be disguising some identities to protect both the innocent and the guilty. Many people acted dishonorably during my journey, including me. Some acted incredibly heroically, including me. This won’t just be about how to perform psychically or mount an FE project, but to show how my life’s events shaped me into becoming the old man who is writing these posts. The intent is to help people who might embark on a little effort to heal humanity and the planet. While my life’s experiences at times seem totally unbelievable to people, they are quite tame compared to the life that Dennis has lived, for instance. His life is truly hard to believe, but I lived through his darkest days with him, so I know the truth of matters. Our efforts ended up being one of the greatest threats that Godzilla has had to deal with from the public. We were something different, and I am sure that a case history of our efforts and how we were taken out is part of the training for Godzilla’s minions, at least for those who remove the threat of FE efforts. But the focus of this series of posts will be how it looked through my eyes. I will have to leave out many events or alter them a little, in order to protect people, but I plan to tell the good and the bad, and what their impact was on my life’s trajectory. I see my life’s end ahead of me. It might be forty years away, but I see it coming, and it is coming like an old friend. When my work is done, I will be happy to move on. Maybe I won’t live to see humanity turn the corner, and maybe we won’t turn the corner, but I have my dreams. I was definitely launched on a mission, and it is not yet over. Is it the mission that I planned before I was born? Beats me, but that voice sure had its ideas of what I should be doing with my life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

and I have mentioned my anger with it, especially when it piped up unbidden, kind of closing a circle of preposterous events:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

I am not sure that I am going to hear from that voice again or that I want to, but it ended up being more influential than any other part of my life, as strange as that may seem. I have no idea what the source of that voice was, or even if it had my best interests in mind. I feel like I was led onto a battlefield to do a job. Playing cannon fodder for some cosmic voice in my head has been a very mixed blessing, let me tell you, but I have no regrets. I likely asked for the duty and deserved all that came with it. I have had plenty of compensation, and was groomed to be what I became, but I would not wish my journey on anybody. Like Brian O said when describing his journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sherry

if I had any idea what was in store for me, I would have lived a boring life, maybe with Walter Mitty fantasies of what might have been. I had several opportunities to become rich, but I kept taking the path that led away from those riches. I admit to being grateful that I did not become some Bill Gates figure, making a bunch of money while being nagged by doubts that it was not what I was here to do. I got to chase my dreams, even though they turned into nightmares, and I guess that I should be thankful, but that has not always come easily for me.

So, without further preamble, here goes. My parents were born in Bellingham, Washington. My mother was born to parents of Scandinavian ancestry, with my grandfather a first generation American from Norway, while my grandmother was half Swedish and Norwegian. My mother’s father was crippled in World War I:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#influenza

while my mother’s mother graduated from the local college (something rare in the 1920s) and owned a general store and ran her Lutheran Church for fifty years. They did not have a book in the house, however, and my mother used to brag that she got through high school without ever having read a book. For book reports, she would read the first and last chapter and fake it. She went to that local college in Bellingham, but just about flunked out. Her IQ is likely around 85-90.

My father’s parents were born and raised on homesteads in Kansas, with my ancestors following in the wake of the USA’s army as the Indians were dispossessed, with my relatives enjoying the benefits of free land:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#_edn145

but the enlightened farming methods of the “pioneers” led to the Dust Bowl, and my ancestors fled, Grapes of Wrath style, and ended up in Bellingham:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

My grandmother was pregnant with my father when they arrived in Bellingham, but they were starving. My father weighed less than five pounds when he was born with rickets and nearly died, and his growth was stunted until he was about fifteen years old and grew eight inches over one summer. My grandfather was a poet of international reputation, and my father’s siblings were all pretty bright, with most becoming professionals with college degrees, but my father was a freak, with an IQ going off the scale. He read a book a day while growing up. In high school, before the SAT was the standard test, my father took a standardized state test and got the highest score in the state on the math test, and was offered a full-ride scholarship to the University of Washington in Seattle. My grandfather then inflicted his final act of petty tyranny on my father. In those days, a man was not legally emancipated until age 21. My grandfather forbade my father from attending the University of Washington. The local college was “good enough,” and my grandfather could enforce that edict. But there was one thing that my grandfather could not prevent my father from doing, and that was joining the Marines. My mother was his casual girlfriend, and she ran away from home with him. Her home life was not a happy one, either, with her domineering mother. My father joined the Marines and was shipped to the Korean War in 1954. He came back three years later a “changed” man, and not for the better.

My father was a boot camp drill sergeant his last months in the Marines, and when he was discharged my parents move from California (where Camp Pendleton was – my parent got married in Las Vegas, on a weekend pass from boot camp) back to Washington, where my father finally was able to attend the University of Washington, that time on a G.I. Bill. My mother immediately began getting pregnant, in those Baby Boom 1950s, and after a few failed pregnancies, I was born into the middle of that mess. :) My days with Dennis ended up estranging me from both of my parents, but I can’t fault them for how they raised me. My father never got more than ten miles from where was born until he was sixteen, and that probably has something to do with his marrying somebody with an IQ about half of his. That kind of situation never happens in the USA anymore, as communities are no longer that isolated. That mixing of “intelligence” genes had strange consequences for me and my siblings. We are all either geniuses or idiots, with nothing in-between. I am actually the middle child, intelligence-wise, but I was the firstborn, so have the typical firstborn’s disease of being an achiever. I was immediately recognized as a chip off the old block, and my parents took the charge of raising me seriously. My memories don’t begin until age two, but I heard that I memorized all of the books that my parents read to me before I could walk, and then read them to myself. I was writing my name by age three or four, and when it came time to go to school, I had literally no learning curve to read. It came to me as naturally as breathing.

I have to run off to work soon, but I’ll relate one of my earliest memories, when I was two. My parents were visiting some friends, playing cards into the night (probably pinochle), and I was in the living room as they were playing and chatting in the kitchen. I laid there listening to them and closed my eyes. I was aware of all the sounds in the house and their activities as they played and chatted. As I lied there, I was keenly aware of my senses and mental awareness. It was an event where my being said something like, “Well, here I am, in this body, with my senses and awareness.” I did not have any past life memories bleed through or anything mystical, but it was a hyper-real state of awareness, where I was soaking up the physical reality experience, kind of marveling at it. I can still close my eyes and recall the feelings and realization of that moment. If I had to guess, it was my soul coming through, with a “Well, here I am again,” realization, and in a state of wonder of what being in physical reality is like. It is one of my earliest memories.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th October 2012, 18:36
Hi:

I have quite a few memories by age two, and one was my first experiment. I was at the baby sitter’s house and she was boiling water on the stove. She was going to turn it off, but I thought that I had figured out the stove and turned off the burner before she could. But I wanted to make sure I had turned it off, so I immediately put my hand on the element to see if I had turned off the correct burner. :) That is called learning the hard way. I remember them putting some kind of burn cream on my palm.

My memories are thick after age two, but I was a relatively normal child, I suppose. I clearly recall at age six, however, thinking about my memories at age two, and promising myself that I would never forget those early memories, and I never did. Over the years, I would periodically revisit those memories in my mind, to keep them fresh.

I was an exceptionally well-behaved child, constantly trying to keep my younger brother, only a year younger than me, out of trouble, but he always found it. I virtually raised myself, but my brother got into trouble almost every day of his childhood. The books I cherished, he would tear apart in glee. He was sent home from his first day in kindergarten for being disruptive, while I was never sent home in my life, and was always the most eager student. I still have my report cards from school, including first grade, and the teacher remarked on my fascination with and love of nature. In second grade, I received the “good citizen” award in my class at the school assembly at the end of the school year. He came right behind me in school, so it was quite the contrast for my teachers when he came behind me, as kind of the anti-Wade.

I clearly recall my grief-stricken mother watching JFK’s funeral on TV when I was five:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

My father graduated from college in 1963, and our family immediately moved to Southern California, in Ventura County. My parents fell in love with the warmth, sunshine and laid-back lifestyle of Southern California, and never left, except for a year in Texas. When I was in the second grade, my father was recruited by NASA, and he ended up working in Mission Control:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

During the Christmas break of 1966, between the Gemini and Apollo programs, my father took our family (and my mother’s visiting parents) to his “office,” which was the Mission Control Room. That is an exceptionally vivid memory, and I had an abiding interest in space exploration ever since. Unlike Brian O, I never had any ambition to become an astronaut. The month after my Mission Control visit, however, was the Apollo 1 disaster, and my father then wanted a way out of NASA, and we moved back to Ventura County in 1967. My father got his old job back, but the military took vengeance on his abandoning the Space Race and refused to reimburse the cost of moving back to California (which was a quarter of my father’s annual salary), and his meteoric career largely came to an end.

In Houston, I was at the top of my class, as usual, and was selected for the first of the many gifted programs that would be in for the next several years. My parents also sent me to a special science class on Saturday mornings at a museum. I was seen as a prodigy, and my parents gave me every opportunity that they could to nurture my expanding mind, for which I can only be grateful. I really did not have much ego back then, but just did my “job” of going to school and learning. By the third grade, I was reading thick books, and in the fourth grade my family bought an encyclopedia, and the family library was put in my bedroom, and I read the encyclopedia each night before I went to bed, just picking up a volume from the shelf and reading it from wherever the book happened to open. In the fourth grade, I won the first spelling bee I ever entered, winning the school spelling bee, beating out several hundred students, including the fifth and sixth graders. As I look back, that is when I began to get a little ego, as people began to regard me as some academic conquering hero. By the fifth grade, I had read the entire paleontological section of my school’s library. They were not exactly peer-reviewed scientific papers, but I read everything that I could get my young hands on.

My father was an athlete with a world-class throwing arm, and I inherited that, too. My father put me into organized baseball in the second grade. That was a little young, and I cried every time I struck out. I was on the same team with fifth and sixth graders in that league. In the fourth grade, I was in Little League, and did it because I was told to. They stuck me out in right field, probably because I could not get into too much trouble out there. I just remember being happy to be there, but after a few days they took note of my throwing arm and made me a pitcher, and I became a star baseball player for a while.

While I was doing all of that achieving in competitions, it did something to me that I did not like. My brother was my de facto playmate, and we constantly played games, and he was the world’s worst loser. I would sometimes purposely lose so I that would not have to endure his tantrums. In the USA, competing and winning is what life was all about, but it began rubbing me the wrong way early on. I won the first spelling bee that I ever entered, but I stopped competing in them by the seventh grade, refusing to participate. In the seventh grade, I also stopped playing organized sports. I still played sports, but never again in an organization (except for bowling – I was kind of raised in a bowling alley, as my mother worked there), other than when I went into track in my last year in high school, because I was chasing a girl.

On the academic front, I was always at the top of my classes, all the way through my college diploma, especially in math and science. Science always came effortlessly to me. I was subjected to numerous intelligence tests, and always scored in the genius range, and was in all the gifted programs of Johnson’s Great Society era:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_society

Doing well in school was just my “job,” and I loved the classroom, always with my hand up with the answer. There was kind of an odd effect of my father marrying my mother, however, and it played out in my early years. While I was reading encyclopedias, learning alternative base numbering systems:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#johnson

playing chess and the like, my mother would bring home tabloids from the grocery store, that being the level of her intellectual prowess. My father once stated that I passed up my mother mentally when I was about nine years old. I avidly read the tabloids, too, and pretty much memorized the Guinness Book of World Records, reading each annual issue when it came out. I did not care about the celebrity gossip in the tabloids, but all the fun facts in them. It was not until the eighth grade when a friend said that the tabloids did not have true “facts” in them, but many of them were made up “facts,” and it was really a disservice to me to read them. I then laid aside the tabloids, while my mother and youngest brother (with a mental impairment) have avidly read tabloids ever since.

Along with all of that intellectual prowess, however, I was a nerd. My father had it in spades, and I was a little closer to normal, but social cues and other aspects of human interaction are something that I was fairly oblivious to. I am in the autism spectrum. If I was not a gifted athlete, I might have been the classic nerd. I was a harmless nerd, however, always trying to do the right thing. I was in Boy Scouts for a few years, but dropped out of scouts about the same time that I dropped out of organized sports. I would later find others like me, but there are not many like us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

People could argue that in ways, we did not grow up, but I like to think that it was something different, which was partly believing in the ideals that we had been raised with, and being willing to get out of our easy chairs and pursue them, with Brian’s chase threatening to take him to Mars. Chasing our ideals is where our adventures began.

There were other aspects of my formative years, both the good and the bad. On my father’s side, while my grandfather had a Quaker background, with an emphasis on learning, my grandmother had a bit of “white trash” background. She was a quarter Indian, and had that Scots-Irish background:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=413520&highlight=bageant#post413520

I have lots of “Okie” relatives, the backwoods types who have always been the backbone of America’s infantry, playing cannon fodder for the elites, and a bunch of them live in Bakersfield, not far from Ventura, mostly descendants from my grandmother’s brother. I saw more of them growing up than I did of my parent’s siblings and their children. My father, for his off-the-scale IQ, is a redneck at heart. I was raised in a Southern Californian surf town by a Scandinavian-heritage mother and a redneck father, and all of those influences can be seen in my speech and mannerisms today. I was raised hearing “jokes” about “niggers” and “greasers” nearly every day. It can really be amazing to see the changes in American culture in just my lifetime. When I was a teenager, there was a hit series of joke books that all my friends had or read. There was the Polish joke book, the Jewish joke book, the Negro joke book, and so on. Gay men were openly called faggots. Archie Bunker was the typical American man in those days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Bunker

not Ward Cleaver:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cleaver

or the father in My Three Sons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Three_Sons

or Father Knows Best:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Knows_Best

I was raised in American Baby Boom suburbia, and I can’t complain, but there were definitely downsides to the experience.

One aspect of the era was comic books, and one of them kind of changed my life. While driving to Bakersfield when I was about eleven with my father, I brought along a comic book, and it was about superhero elements. They are today known as the Metal Men:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Men

The issue that I read had the iron, lead, mercury and other superheroes being challenged by other elemental superhero upstarts. Cobalt displaced iron, osmium displaced lead, and gallium displaced mercury, all due to their superior properties. But by the end of the story, iron won his place back, begin sturdier than the relatively brittle cobalt. While lead was not as dense as osmium (the densest of the elements http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmium), he could handle radiation better. While gallium melts in your hand, mercury could stay liquid at far lower temperatures. In the end, the tried-and-true elemental super-heroes out-competed their upstart rivals. My fascination with chemistry began then.

My childhood from two very different parents influenced me in many ways that can seem incongruous. When television invaded America’s living rooms after World War II, replacing the radio, my father could never see the point of it and never watched TV, while my mother had a TV on for almost all of her waking hours. Not only did I grow up reading encyclopedias and paleontology, I also grew up watching Gilligan’s Island, I Dream of Genie, and the rest of the TV fodder from that era. There were two shows, however, that would have far-reaching influence on me, as I look back. The first was Star Trek. The show first aired when I began the third grade in Houston, during the heady days of the Space Race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series#Season_1_.281966.E2.80.931967.29

In Texas, it ran from 8-9 PM, and I was allowed to stay up until 9 PM for the first time in my life, just to watch that show. Watching it was kind of a professional undertaking for a space brat. The other show came on several years later, and was Kung Fu, starring David Carradine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(TV_series)

Of course, it was TV, but it had a different message. I watched an episode not long ago, for the first time in nearly forty years, and it is dated, but I still can see what appealed to me about it, and not just that he kicked righteous butt every show. :)

I remember being a fan of The Sixth Sense:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sixth_Sense_(TV_series)

when I was fourteen. But like giving up tabloids, I began to leave that stuff behind me. There was one event when I was fourteen that had lasting impact. Voracious reader that I was, my father never handed a book for me to read until the summer of 1972, when my father handed me The Hobbit and said that I should read it. Until the day that my father handed me The Hobbit, I did not read fiction. I did not see the point. Reading The Hobbit launched me on a science fiction and epic fantasy trajectory that I am still on. I reward the completion of completing a difficult essay or a bunch of White Science books with some fantasy. I have had a volume of Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time series next to my bed almost continually for more than twenty years, and the series will finally come to an end this winter.

Not long before I gave up the tabloids, I obtained Frank Edwards’s books on anomalies in the modern world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Edwards_(writer_and_broadcaster)#Bibliography

and I especially recall having Strange World and Stranger than Science, and I think that I still have them somewhere in my library. In my sophomore year in high school, the Comet Kohoutek was discovered, and I read a book on what it portended for civilization, and I even did a book report on it in class:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Kohoutek#Impact_on_popular_culture

I clearly recall the teacher challenging me on the credentials of the author, and I recall being kind of taken aback. As I look back, it was one of those events that helped develop my information filter. There is a lot of junk out there, from the tabloids to the New Agey pabulum to fringe science that just does not cut it. I have been winnowing through the chaff, seeking kernels of wheat, for a long time.

During my first year in high school, my sophomore year, I began to develop a no-nonsense attitude about many things. High school was about preparing for college and the real world. I was not sure what all that entailed, but it was time to leave behind many pursuits of my childhood and prepare for the real world. The summer of 1974, against my wishes, my parents sent me to Europe for two months on an art/culture tour. My cultural horizons were not much broader than watching Kung Fu, and I knew nothing at all about art. Like fiction, I just did not get it. Those two months in Europe was the summer of my life. I came back with my adult mind in full flower:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

After my summer in Europe, my mother never again reminded me that it was my bedtime. After that summer in Europe and when I began the eleventh grade, I was all business. I was about the youngest person on that European tour. Most of them had just graduated from high school, and the trip was their graduation present, and a few were in college, but before we even began the trip, I eventually heard that everybody was looking at me like some Young Einstein. I was pretty oblivious to that kind of view of me, but there would be occasional events where I would hear how I was seen, by teachers and peers. Most of them expected me to win a Nobel Prize one day. I really am not that smart. My IQ is in the genius range, but not that high in it. I have known more brilliant minds, such as my father’s, but what set me apart was that eagerness, that over-grown Boy Scout attitude, that desire to know. There were times when people called me a know-it-all, and while I will allow that there may have been some ego in what I was doing, I really wanted to know it all. As I look back, I was a comprehensivist in training, but I did not know it.

Also, living in the community that I did, my friends’ fathers were usually professionals, scientists, engineers, lawyers and the like, with many of them working at the local military bases or teaching college. Several of my friends’ parents kind of adopted me, kind of wishing that I was their son, and one person in particular took me under his wing, and I call him Mr. Mentor in my writings. He was really my first professional influence, and he was an inventive genius:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

He mentored me, and I helped him build some of his contraptions over the years. In 1972, he invented what was later hailed as the best engine for powering an automobile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and it eventually created quite a stir in high places. It was then that my dreams of changing the energy industry began, but what I could do about it as a teenager, I had no idea. But a couple of events would change my life. As I look back, the first one happened when I was twelve. My father’s father smoked for many years, and a series of heart attacks in his late sixties forced him into retirement. My father’s desk job took a toll, with him drinking heavily and putting fifty pounds of fat on his former athlete’s body. He went to his doctor for help, and the doctor could only recommend some pills. Then one of my Bakersfield relatives, my grandmother’s sister, brought my father a booklet that made the case that dead food caused hardening of the arteries, and live food could cure it. My father saw a chance at life and took it. The entire family went "health nut" when I was twelve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

It worked. In two years of religious adherence to his new diet, my father completely reversed the hardening of his arteries and the related health problems he was developing. It affected my diet ever since. When I was seventeen, my father brought home another book, on the merits of fasting, and I have been a regular faster ever since, and people now look at me and say that my graceful aging must have a lot to do with my health habits, including fasting. They are probably right. But like many areas on the fringes, I was recently surprised that the “life extension specialist,” who was generally my final influence on diet and lifestyle, made up his life’s story from whole cloth, including lying about his age, and I posthumously exposed him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/bragg.htm

I won’t be getting any Christmas cards from his “daughter” anytime soon. :)

But all of that was only a prelude to the event that radically changed my life, and here is where I will be describing specific events and how they felt and looked. Others have different experiences, but what I will be describing I have come to understand are not unusual in their nature, it is just that I have had a bunch of them, arguably too many of them, and I hope that this will benefit my readers.

In November of 1974, my father and brother came home one night and announced that they could see my aura. I had never heard of an aura. I was astounded. They said that they were taking a class where they could learn to see auras. I was never in disbelief. I immediately asked them what they could see in my aura, and if I could learn to see them, too, whatever an aura was. They finished the class that weekend, and the next month, our entire family took the class. Little did I know what I was in for. By that time, I was becoming a hard-core science student, taking my first chemistry class, a year after my first biology class. During that year, I had a vivid dream about gallium oxide, and I can close my eyes and still recall the feeling of that dream. One friend said several years ago, that gallium oxide might have been my code for God (Gallium OxiDe). Beats me, but nearly forty years later, it is a vivid dream, as I experienced a clean, buzzing energy, which somehow felt divine. Maybe it was the zero-point-field. I don’t know, but it was one of the most vivid dreams of my life.

The year before, I had my first paying job, salvaging lumber from a walnut farm that was being torn down as Ventura “developed.” I was later a janitor in an office building that sat on the same ground that that walnut farm did. My employer was a black man named Isaac Brown, who lived in the poor part of Ventura called The Avenue. No black people lived on my end of town, and the few black students at my high school all came from that poor part of town. I sure did not think of Mr. Brown as a “nigger,” but that vile word was still in my vocabulary in those unenlightened days, as they were with all my friends and even their parents. I look back on aspects of my upbringing, like that racism, in shame. We are not really all that civilized in the West. We can’t call Islamic people “towel heads” as openly as we did in the past, but America’s foreign policy is as bigoted and racist as ever. The portrayals of Arabs in the American media over the past twenty years rival how the Jewish people were depicted before World War II:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot

or the Japanese during World War II:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=549631&viewfull=1#post549631

Or the Indians as they were being slaughtered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#sandcreek

I was injured on the job at that walnut farm, and there was not stuff like workmen’s comp for a fifteen-year-old boy, so I went home as my cracked ribs healed. But I vividly recall when Mr. Brown wrote one of my paychecks. He was missing the end of his index finger on his right hand. As he wrote my check, I noticed the awkward way that his severed finger laid across the checkbook as he wrote. I was not the only person injured on that job. Mr. Brown had diabetes, and lost the sensation in his feet. His boot picked up a nail that pierced the sole and stuck into his foot, and he never felt it. Each day, he put that boot on and jammed that nail into his foot. His foot exploded with infection some days or weeks later, and he lost half of his foot. I suppose that he kept hobbling around, trying to earn a living for his family. His son, who was about my age, also worked with me salvaging that lumber, but a few years later he went to prison for murder in the mayhem of a drug deal gone bad.

The Silva class that I attended was a forty-hour training. It was really a meditation class, presented with a scientific basis. Mediation was about learning to consciously control one’s brain-waves, when the alpha state was attained (around ten cycles per second, where REM sleep occurs, and far slower than our normal waking beta awareness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_wave) the brain worked more effectively for many tasks, such as memory and imagination. The Silva class kind of snuck the psychic stuff on its students. It turned out that my father was a highly talented psychic, and I turned out to be a chip off the old block in that way, also, as I would eventually discover. But I had no idea what I was in for when we finished the Silva class by “working cases.” Back then, it was called the Edgar Cayce method, and today it is called remote viewing. There were strict protocols that the all of the Silva exercises followed, and they also applied to the “working cases” exercises. Working a case meant that you would go into trance (called “going to level” in Silva parlance) and a fellow classmate would hand a card to a third person would read out this information about the “case”:

1. Their name;

2. Their city of residence;

3. Their age;

4. Their gender.

Then the person in trance would diagnose the health condition of the case and send them healing energy. A “case” was somebody with a diagnosed medical condition known to the classmate. On the card, the class member would write down those four pieces of information and the medical condition, which was read to the person in trance by the third person. The cases were worked in groups of three, with the moderator, the person in trance, and the person who had the case to work, and we all took all three roles during the exercise.

It was easy to think of my case, my former employer who lost half of his foot due to his diabetic condition, and that is what I wrote on my card. I was being schooled in the scientific method, performing experiments in my lab classes, and took the experiment seriously, not showing my card to the moderator until the other class member went into trance with her eyes closed. I did not even write on the card about his severed finger. His diabetes was the diagnosed medical condition, and I may not have even written that he lost half of his foot to it.

The class that I took was given in Santa Barbara, about fifty miles from Ventura, and the woman working my “case,” was a yuppie-looking white woman who I highly doubt knew a poor black man who lived fifty miles away. The moderator read off to her, “Isaac Brown, Ventura California, male, age 42”. Her eyelids fluttered (the “REM sleep effect” of being at “level”), and within less than five seconds the woman began to give her impressions. She first said, “I get the impression that he is black,” and then she changed my life forever. She held up her right hand, holding her index finger into the air, bent in half, exactly where Mr. Brown’s index finger ended, and she said, “He is missing the end of this finger.” I have heard of people being described with photographic or eidetic memories. I don’t know what to call my memory, other than to say that I only have met one person in my life whose memory is better, and my memories have images and sounds in them, quite often, and I can also recall the thoughts and feelings that I had in reaction to what I witnessed, and the first ten seconds of what woman’s first case nearly knocked me off my chair. I was so dazed by what she came up with that I don’t even remember if she diagnosed the diabetes or not. That image of her raising her index finger is burned into my memories so deeply that I would not be surprised if I still remember it three lifetimes from now. :)

Then it was my turn, and here is what I hopes help various psychic aspirants that I have encountered lately. After twenty hours or so of exercises (and they all had conditioning to enforce the idea those abilities are to only be used for the highest and best good of humanity, and if students used them for self-serving reasons, they would lose those abilities), I was familiar with being “at level,” but I admit that the idea of doing cases was a little unsettling; there was pressure to getting it right. I went to level and my case was read to me. Joya Pope read me long ago as emotionally-centered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

and I’ll buy that. I have had some histrionic tendencies since my young days (I am also a gifted actor, which is another Old Artisan talent), which is normal for an early-stage Old Soul (Late Mature is the most emotionally trying soul age), and is evident on this thread, when somebody barges in for the fiftieth time on the inventor of the hour, wanting to scale the ramparts, and so on. Joya/Michael said that impatience is my Achilles heel for this lifetime, and all I can say to that is that I get to work on it every day. :)

Because of my emotional-centering, I do my best readings by engaging my emotions and being an empath. So, when I read my first case, I put the woman’s head on, so to speak, and felt what she felt, and I blurted out that she had a stroke that paralyzed her right side. That “wild guess” was right. The key to being a good psychic is to disengage that voice in our head that says that we are just making it up and are fools for trying to “work cases.” If that normal waking voice has the upper hand, then when it works a case, it analyzes the impressions for how “reasonable” they seem. That is the best way to wreck your ability.

The psychic impressions cannot come through the intellect, or putting the impressions through the intellect’s meat grinder, assessing how reasonable the impressions are, is the path of failure. You literally say the first things that come to mind, the first things that you feel, but from the trance state. That trance state connects you to something far larger than your conscious mind. Maintaining that threshold between waking consciousness and something that one might call sleep-like is the key to being an effective psychic. If you do the work, you will know the state that I am referring to. I am sure that many Avalonians know exactly what I am referring to. When you make your “wild guesses” from being “at level,” and the preposterous “guesses” are correct, doors open that will never again close. You begin to see your imagination in a new light. For me, my imagination leapt up by an order of magnitude after Silva. It also opened up my intuition in ways that can be hard to describe. I have never abused my psychic abilities in this lifetime (probably from abusing them in other lifetimes, which I will cover later and have previously mentioned on this thread), but I screwed up a few times at the threshold of adulthood, and those are coming soon, but for now it is off to chores.

Best,

Wade

meat suit
20th October 2012, 19:35
hi Wade,
have you come across the hydrosonic pump by Griggs?
real or fraud?

cheers

meat

Limor Wolf
20th October 2012, 20:22
Hi meat suit, Your Avatar definitely gives a challange to a vegan like myself :)

I wonder if you happened to read some of Wade's posts where he explaines on where he's focus is at now, and why. but if not, here is one example :

#1617 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=436907&viewfull=1#post436907)

(sorry, but I do not know how to link a specific post from the whole page, please move down the page)

I think it is absolutely awsome that so many now are finding the possibility of Free energy as the most exciting and as the true remedy to our planet.

meat suit
20th October 2012, 20:44
hey, thanks for the attention Limor:cool:
its a suit! you are wearing one too, although much prettier than mine...
I just guess Wade has probably done the homework on the hydrosonic pump since it first surfaced, I dont want to take up any of his time here...hence a one word reply ie. 'real' or 'fraud' will suffice...
I have found over unity (f.e.) by the way... its called 'willow' ... cut off one branch ...get 8 new ones...magic ...yum yum goes the wood burner...he is a vegan too..

cheers

meat

Wade Frazier
20th October 2012, 21:21
Hi Limor:

Thanks for running interference for me! :)

Hi Meat:

Sterling Allan, Eugene Mallove and the like have specialized in kicking the tires of claims like Griggs’s.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:AKOIL_Power_Generators

I have been aware of the claims for several years, and if it really reduces energy consumption, then it may be legit, but the Griggs stuff seems like the standard inventor-in-his-garage scenario, and it may produce some “over-unity” effects, but nothing to get too excited about, and the shed-in-the-back way that the testing and production seems to have been implemented under sure leaves plenty of doubt.

Sterling chases after stuff like that, and he recently attended a conference that featured Rossi.

http://pesn.com/2012/09/11/9602180_2012_E-Cat_Conference_Report--1_MW_E-Cat_Ready/

Again, that entire path of tinkering inventors holds no interest for me. Been there, done that, more than once, and none of those tinkerers have encountered Godzilla yet, and I really don’t want to watch.

Best,

Wade

RunningDeer
20th October 2012, 22:12
Hi meat suit, Your Avatar definitely gives a challange to a vegan like myself :)

I wonder if you happened to read some of Wade's posts where he explaines on where he's focus is at now, and why. but if not, here is one example :

#1617

(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet/page81) (sorry, but I do not know how to link a specific post from the whole page, please move down the page)

I think it is absolutely awsome that so many now are finding the possibility of Free energy as the most exciting and as the true remedy to our planet.


"...sorry, but I do not know how to link a specific post from the whole page, please move down the page.."

Hi Limor,

I'm on your post called "Link to Post #2374 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571625&viewfull=1#post571625)" in the top, right corner. Just click on it and it'll move to the top of a new page. Then just cut and paste address like you did with yours to Meatsuit Man. :wave:

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :offtopic:

Wade Frazier
20th October 2012, 22:16
Hi:

I will continue the posts of my personal experiences, which will lead to my days with Dennis, but one aside, which you have seen repeated here many times, is how ingrained the old, scarcity-based ways are in humanity. Rossi is a classic Level 6:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

Keshe was a Level 6 who seems to be becoming a Level 7:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level7

and I have almost never seen an inventor evolve past those elementary levels, unless they end up in Level 8. Almost all FE scientists and tinkers end up there. And for anybody who has much familiarity at all with the milieu, levels 6 and 7 are suicidal levels of the game. It is like that saying that insanity is trying the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome each time. Except in this instance, it is an entire cottage industry that is insane, because the tinkerers only get one swing at the ball and it is strike three, so no tinkerer ends up doing it twice (if he really has anything, and most don't), but there is an endless parade of naïve and deluded inventors, and those that watch them, thinking that this time they will succeed, with the same dogged approach that has failed 100% of the time for the past century.

Only fools like Dennis and his spear carriers ( :) ) try the Level 10 approach (and only adolescent fools think that Level 9 will work, like in the cowboy movies), and I saw how easy that was to defeat. We need to raise our games far above those scarcity-based levels if we are going to get anywhere with this. Anything less is easily defeated by Godzilla and friends, if it does not collapse from within first, or falls prey to the predators at the lower levels of that food chain.

I may not get another post in this weekend, but we will see.

Best,

Wade

ThePythonicCow
20th October 2012, 22:18
I'm on your post called "Link to Post #2374 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571625&viewfull=1#post571625)" in the top, right corner. Just click on it and it'll move to the top of a new page. Then just cut and paste address like you did with yours to Meatsuit Man. :wave:
What I do, slightly quicker (but I need to do this more often than most), is to right click on the Link to Post #nnn in the upper right of the post, and then choose (left click on) the "Copy Link Location" entry on the right click menu that comes up. Then I am ready to paste that URL for that post wherever I need it.

(Special thanks to Ilie for making this Post #nnn link option more visible.)

Limor Wolf
21st October 2012, 07:17
Thanks Paula and Paul, you must have heard my 'heeeelp' and came to the assistance, I corrected the link in my post.

Paula, it is nice to see you here! (Paul's one stomach and four compartments is occasionally coming for a visit :)

Wade, I feel that the sequence of events in your life is quite remarkably an integral part for understanding the plot of Free energy and energy in general, and with your very own unique perspective. It helps the reader to become aware to how and why you have reached your conclusions, it also hints on the various tools that this universe is offering, if only we dare to make the connection.. Thanks!

Wade Frazier
21st October 2012, 13:31
Hi Limor:

Thanks. Yes, my intent is to put as many of my experiences as possible in front of the reader, to kind of provide the “raw material” of what I learned from. Then they can perhaps see how they would have interpreted the events. There were other learning experiences besides mine, and one of the amazing parts is witnessing the same events with others and seeing how their perceptions were entirely different. What I virtually always found was that if people did not have their eyes wide open, they were deluded about the events, the motivations, and so on, such as Mr. Engineer and Mr. Researcher going to work for Mr. Texas and friends:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400493&viewfull=1#post400493

Dennis was swallowed by Godzilla, and Mr. Professor and I pulled him out from Godzilla’s stomach, so Dennis had a very unique learning experience that I can barely imagine.

On the psychic stuff, I have an empathic style, and there are different styles. They all have to do with how the person is wired. Some get images, others sounds, some even smells. With some the images are clear and realistic, and with others they are kind of diagrams without much detail. What is clear is that achieving the trance state is critical to all of them. Just like some people are natural runners or singers, some have more psychic talent than others. But everybody with two feet can walk, unless they are paralyzed, and most can run, unless they have not been taking care of themselves. With psychic ability, it is developed with inner work, and older souls usually have the most interest and talent. The younger souls are on the outward journey, investing themselves into physical reality, which reaches its apex at Late Young (a la Michael: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael ), where they become rank materialists. Those who treat psychic phenomenon as the devil’s work are likely Baby Souls, and the “skeptics” are likely Young Souls, and materialism is their faith.

I am going hiking, going after the golden larches today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm#larch

so I may not get a good post in, but briefly, I finished McLuhan’s Randi’s Prize recently, and it really was an excellent look at the “skeptics” and paranormal phenomenon. At best, the “skeptics” are highly irrational in dealing with evidence of the paranormal. Time and again, McLuhan shows, from the documentary record, how the “skeptics” go about their business. Psychics have performed many readings under highly controlled conditions, and the results would be nine amazing hits on ten issues. The “skeptic” would seize on the one that was wrong, other than the nine that were incredibly accurate, to dismiss the whole thing as invalid. Or even worse, they would state that there was an eleventh thing that should have been seen but wasn’t, so the psychic was bogus. Those are absolutely crazy responses to the data. The report by the “skeptic” would actually ignore the nine amazing hits and focus on the one that was wrong, and play up the eleventh that was not even broached, and that version would be the one repeated endlessly by other “skeptics” to totally dismiss the research. And these are supposedly the defenders of science and reason!

Then McLuhan did something that I have seen the radical left do, and what I have seen, too, which is state that the “skeptics” or establishment pundits were unable to see what was happening, as their belief system precluded them from acknowledging what was so obvious with anybody else looking at the situation.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#incapable

I have some responses to that observation. One is that I think it happens often enough. And when that happens, it brings up the issue of whether the person is really a sentient being, and if they are, if sentience really means much. It can’t get any more stupid than those “skeptical” responses. There is another aspect of the situation, however, and I can see why the rad left and somebody like McLuhan tends to give those people a pass, believing that they are blind, not dishonest. Believe it or not, there are dishonest people in the world. They are consciously dishonest. With Mr. Skeptic’s attacks on Dennis, I have no doubt:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=410817&viewfull=1#post410817

I have seen his cleverness too many times to believe that he can be that stupid. He is being consciously dishonest. Whether he is being dishonest for “free-lance” reasons or because he is on the payroll is an open question for me, but I have no doubt that he is being consciously dishonest.

I see the McLuhans and rad lefties coming up with the “they are honest but irrational” excuse because they are not well versed in spirituality, or have any experience with trying to make something like FE happen, because then you can get both barrels of the human condition, and dishonesty can be a huge component of it, especially with the magnified perils and temptations of FE.

There is a dark spiritual path, and many in this world walk it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

They don’t take their masks off in public, but when they target you, they often take their masks off as they sink in their daggers. I have been around that, and seen it happen, several times:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400493&highlight=mask#post400493

When you see that happen, the “they are honest but deluded or irrational” excuse really sells them short, denying them their ability to consciously make a choice and execute it. The dark path folks like to take their masks off to the right people, because getting to the point where they can stick their dagger in their target’s ribs is a great triumph for them, and seeing the recognition finally dawn in their target’s eyes is one of the great benefits of their game. People who deny the darkness are in a kind of denial themselves, not giving the devil his due.

Time for hiking.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
21st October 2012, 16:01
Hi,


Originally posted by Wade: " There were other learning experiences besides mine, and one of the amazing parts is witnessing the same events with others and seeing how their perceptions were entirely different. "

I am familiar with that. I had something similiar with my work collegues and friends for the last nine years, I have left my work place three months ago for a couple of reasons, but this one was certainly one of them.

About the young souls: We are living in times of change where the critical mass are requested to evolve in a much more rapid way than the 'normal' rhythm so far, I am interested in your opinion, Wade, (or anyone else who has a thought on that) would you say that the young souls have a chance to turn the corner together with other 'age groups'? Is the world that we are visioning here and on ilie's thread which is based on the very valid Free energy, can host younger souls as well? and if the rquirments are different, what is this game anyway? why to rapidly evolve a small part of a planet only, where it is most logical to conclude that those 'progressors' where already somewhat progressed in the first place? and other worlds outside this new one will still suffer from confusion and disillusion... will we be able then to rest on our laurels?

Well, I do not expect anyone to have the answers, really, but I do kind of wonder (I am sure I am not alone) what is the meaning of this great experiment.
I think we ought to get a better briefing :)


About McLuhan’s look and your own thoughts - Ideally, a skeptical should keep an open mind and look at things objectively with reference to the results in the field, but in more cases than none, the skeptic holds a bias towards one outcome rather than the other, which is the result of many things that make up his world view. I believe we are all sinners on that one, to a different degree, but without exception. maybe integrity to its highest form is again the answer to this 'dilemma', or maybe trying to adopt a more comprehensive perspective on everything, even the things we don't know.

I am not sure, Wade, if all the skeptics in the world are taking the dark path consciously, surely, there are those that are simply fighting for their life, the life they are comfortable and familiar with. There are those, of course, who deliberatly and for their own reasons would like to keep a 'status quo' which is limited and manipulative and opprtunistic. May God bless them.



Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " I am going hiking, going after the golden larches today..
so I may not get a good post in

(Mmm.. Limor is quietly wondering to herself what is the one above on 'psychic stuff and skepticism' is rated in Wade's scale :p )



~ Many enjoyable moments in the lap of the larches ~

Melinda
21st October 2012, 20:47
...We are living in times of change where the critical mass are requested to evolve in a much more rapid way than the 'normal' rhythm so far, I am interested in your opinion, Wade, (or anyone else who has a thought on that) would you say that the young souls have a chance to turn the corner together with other 'age groups'? Is the world that we are visioning here and on ilie's thread which is based on the very valid Free energy, can host younger souls as well? and if the rquirments are different, what is this game anyway? why to rapidly evolve a small part of a planet only, where it is most logical to conclude that those 'progressors' where already somewhat progressed in the first place? and other worlds outside this new one will still suffer from confusion and disillusion... will we be able then to rest on our laurels?

Well, I do not expect anyone to have the answers, really, but I do kind of wonder (I am sure I am not alone) what is the meaning of this great experiment...


I often wonder about these things myself Limor. What I’ve written below is my attempt to clarify my own thoughts on the questions you’ve raised.

I think most people here (yourself included) recognise the power of our thoughts in effecting our lives, whether it’s something as simple as having the thought about going to the supermarket before actually walking out the door with our shopping bag; or thinking positively and calmly about a situation so we’re in a better frame of mind to solve a dilemma; or adjusting our mood so our body is in a better state to fix any ailments it feels. We all have a frame of reference for those kinds of examples in our own lives. But when it comes to the idea of a small group of people with a shared focus and intention affecting the world for a much larger group (a group who are not aware of its intention, and some of whom may not be considered to be ‘on the same wavelength’) it’s harder to quantify. How do we know when or how we’ve been invisibly effected by a small group we’ve never met, if by definition we have not directly engaged with them to our knowledge? In that regard I’ve always found the experiment detailed here http://istpp.org/crime_prevention/ an interesting one. It was a large-scale meditation experiment done in Washington in 1993 to reduce crime in the area. I’ve quoted some extracts further down. Perhaps it ties in with your question about large numbers of ‘younger souls’ being affected by the work of a smaller group.

As I understand it, Wade is building towards amassing a group of people who can help lay the foundations for free-energy’s introduction on a larger scale. It might take a smaller group of people to lay the foundations for free energy to take hold, and younger souls / uninterested minds may not be involved in that process. Even if (as a result of successful foundation-laying) we then have a world where free-energy becomes available and accepted, there will still be ‘younger souls’ in that world. But it’s my understanding that gradually they will begin to adapt to what is then considered the new ‘normality’. It seems to me that that is what tends to happen in the world. Things that many people take for granted now, such as women having a right to vote or racial segregation ending in public places, were brought about by a committed group of hearts and minds – and now millions more people (numbers far larger than the original foundation-layers) take that better world for granted and see it as ‘normality.’ People whose great-grandparents might have been uncomfortable speaking to a person from a different racial background, are now, generations later, sharing buses, college halls or executive offices with the descendants of those who suffered segregation in the past. That is one of my frames of reference for understanding how the world could change for the better, if something better is allowed to take hold. It reminds me of the popular quote attributed to Margaret Mead: “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”

The fruits of a new idea may appear small and hard won at the start of a process; but after the seeds have been sewn you have millions of people down the line who are born into a different and better world. Just as many children now enjoy and take for granted having inter-racial friendships because they were born into a world with less segregation - once free energy is established, billions of people will be able to be born into a world without the level of scarcity conditioning we carry now. When an environment changes, and when a higher quality/variety of education is available, people at large do respond. Not everyone may respond with the same gratitude or conscious relief at how much better things are - perhaps that’s a reflective, analytical or appreciative tendency of ‘older’ souls. But none the less, the ‘younger’ souls will have a kinder, less competitive environment around them to shape their attitudes and beliefs, consciously or otherwise. There will be less scarcity pressurising them into making a selfish choice for the sake of survival, and their moral strength in that regard will not be tested so harshly. I don’t want to go down the route of considering what kinds of harsh lessons enable a young soul to grow. Perhaps we’ve reached a stage where the people of the planet are ready to learn from an environment of far greater love and kindness, and the time for the harsh lessons of the last thousands of years has run its course. I’d certainly like to think so. Regardless of my personal ideas about what kinds of lessons or hardships may or may not be of value to the souls here, the fact seems to be staring us in the face that there may not be much of a learning environment left at all for future generations, if we don’t do something significant and soon.

That’s why I’m so grateful for all of the people lending their awareness to this and Ilie’s thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy
It’s one thing to watch Star Trek (I love Star Trek) and figure that as a result I already know what a free-energy world would look like. But when I read Ilie’s thread and see other people’s thoughts and dreams shared about what this kind of future means to them, it uplifts my heart on a whole other level – and I’m inspired to integrate their imaginings into my own thoughts. New thoughts about the future that Star Trek and Kurt Vonnegut books hadn’t, for all their wonderments, inspired before. I also know that the people on these threads are the same souls who are affected by this current world of scarcity, and the same souls I would be sharing a free-energy paradigm with. I can’t share it with Captain Kirk or Jean-Luc Picard. I also love the way that Ilie’s thread is an organic conversation that engages my mind and my senses to interact – it’s not solely a vision like a book, or a film (however beautiful) that I can only interact with after it is fully formed. We all want this earth to be healed, both for the planet’s sake and our own, and I can feel how deeply that wish is shared when I read these threads.

Margaret Mead is also quoted as saying:
“No society has ever yet been able to handle the temptations of technology to mastery, to waste, to exuberance, to exploration and exploitation. We have to learn to cherish this earth and cherish it as something that's fragile, that's only one, it's all we have. We have to use our scientific knowledge to correct the dangers that have come from science and technology.”

With science, and the scientific approach to data in mind, below are some report extracts from the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy that I linked to above. [ The director of the ISTPP is John Hagelin. “...By the time Hagelin had received his Ph.D. from Harvard, he had already published "several serious papers" on particle theory. In 1981, Hagelin won a postdoctoral research appointment at the European Center for Particle Physics (CERN) in Switzerland, and in 1982, was recruited by the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC), CERN's North American counterpart.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin ]

Extracts:

“This study presents the final results of a two-month prospective experiment to reduce violent crime in Washington, DC. On the basis of previous research it was hypothesized that the level of violent crime in the District of Columbia would drop significantly with the creation of a large group of participants in the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs to increase coherence and reduce stress in the District...
...Analysis of 1993 data, controlling for temperature, revealed that there was a highly significant decrease in HRA crimes associated with increases in the size of the group during the Demonstration Project...
...Several additional analyses were performed on HRA crimes to further assess the strength of the main findings. ...
...Based on the results of the study, the steady state gain (long-term effect) associated with a permanent group of 4,000 participants in the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs was calculated as a 48% reduction in HRA crimes in the District of Columbia. Given the strength of these results, their consistency with the positive results of previous research, the grave human and financial costs of violent crime, and the lack of other effective and scientific methods to reduce crime, policy makers are urged to apply this approach on a large scale for the benefit of society.”
Source: http://istpp.org/crime_prevention/

http://istpp.org/images/dc_xgraph.gif

I feel that research to be relevant to this thread. It corroborates the value of many of us meditating on a shared focus of free-energy and its benefits. As I understand it, this thread is about helping us to understand (and be continually conscious of) the context of free-energy in scientific terms, and in terms of our history and our current environment. Then with Ilie’s thread I can take that understanding and marry it with the feelings of inspiration in my heart as I imagine a better world. Just by doing that, I feel like I’m meditating and inviting a better world to take shape and to form, so that one day we can step into its physical reality, and everyone, not just us, can experience the upliftment that comes with it. I mean it when I say, that despite my own difficult traits and difficult emotions, I feel a deep respect for you all for being here and taking an interest with your hearts and minds in how we can help things progress and shape a better world for everyone. I’m so glad I found this place.

Wade Frazier
22nd October 2012, 04:02
Hi:

First, I missed responding to Ixopoborn’s post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571087&viewfull=1#post571087

There are two primary reasons for having FE, IMO. The fear of oblivion reason, and the desire for heaven on Earth reason:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#summary

I think that both have their place, and both are in my mind at the same time, although I believe that the upside potential is far healthier to focus on than the downside. I have found that the vast majority is in denial of both, with FE completely off the table, and if people are exposed to the idea of it, the violence of their denial can be something to behold.

Glad you like the trajectory of civilization posts. No civilization has ever been abundant, and only Stone Age cultures were ever sustainable in any way, but you would not want to live in any of them.

Yes, we will see if we make it this time. It is a big if, but not really, when you get down to it. As McLuhan’s book makes the case, a three-year-old can evidence more intelligence than a “skeptic.” What I am trying to get across is really not that intellectually formidable. The hard part is giving up the garbage of what we think we know. When people look at their denial of FE and related aspects, it is almost invariably because they are defending the ideology that feeds them, and if they really look at the ideology, it is not based on their personal experience at all, but some story they were told, a story that usually has almost nothing supporting it, but it is a kind of a fairy tale. It is blatantly clear with the “heroes” of American nationalism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#weems

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#introduction

and the other dominant ideologies fare about as well.

Hi Limor:

I had a nice day, but am tired. I am attaching a pic from today’s outing. You bring up big questions, and I will address them, but not tonight. AWP has done a fine job of addressing it with her post. I won’t be able to improve on it much, but I have some angles on it that may be new to you. AWP has the gist of my intent and how I am trying to get it going. In a nutshell, my strategy may be along the lines of:

“Calling all Old Souls. You are needed, here and now. Please bring the fruit of your incarnations to bear on this situation. This is our species’ moment of truth. If we can help our species turn the corner, we can have a fulfilling retirement and the youngsters can take the reins, once they have been properly educated. If not, many souls are going to fall back all the way to the beginning, and we will all have a hand in that failure, both in what we have been doing on this planet, and what we have not been doing. This is the time to finally get it right. Are you ready to help?”

Those ancillary threads to this one, such as the one that Ilie began, are very important, as they were intended to be more focused on certain aspects of the issue, and as I have stated, Ilie’s is my favorite and arguably the best on the Internet. I believe that it is vitally important to kind of throw ourselves forward into our imaginations, to think about what kind of changes can come with an FE-based world of abundance. My work has always been rooted in this world, and what is practical. A world of abundance can only happen with economic abundance, which will necessarily be rooted in energy abundance. Later in this thread, I will start running some of the numbers. I have already, to a degree:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

and will get into the details more in the future. As far as the human journey goes, it is pretty much FE or bust.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

sandy
22nd October 2012, 04:25
Look at the snow up there in "them there Hills" :( Means Winter is on her way!!

I bet the air and scenery was rejuvenating on its own~~~so happy you are taking care Wade. ((( )))'s

Really enjoying the posts, insights, questions and energy going on. Sure have to use my noodle though at times but thanks to others clarifying what they understand, I gain a more rounded understanding too!!

See the beauty of a team working right here in this space time :)

Wade Frazier
22nd October 2012, 15:26
Hi Sandy:

Yes, it was nice, and yes, winter is coming, but that was more snow than we will likely see in Seattle this year. In the Cascades, it can snow at literally any time of the year. I have been snowed on on the Fourth of July, and even in early August. But no news to somebody who lives in the Great White North. :)

I have a little time before I go to work. Margaret Mead is an interesting case. She was likely the source of the recommendation to NASA to cover up the ET presence:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings

She became a celebrity anthropologist. In Wrangham and Peterson’s Demonic Males, they take Mead’s findings to task, especially her work in American Samoa. They were not the only ones to do it, and anthropologists following up on her fieldwork found little validity in it. She based all of her American Samoan work on interviews of adolescent girls, when men made all of the decisions in that culture. Mead made sweeping assertions about the “primitive” culture that she witnessed, after less than a year in the field, mainly interviewing adolescent girls who were summoned to her facility at the only place where whites lived, at the local naval pharmacy. Mead spent only ten days living among the natives. It was no more of a misstep than many other college papers, but it made Mead the face of anthropology. She was responsible for promoting myths that influenced modern feminists (many of Mead’s feminist notions are not taken seriously by any anthropologist today), and some pastoral ideal in the human past. That time never existed. The Golden Age myths are just that – myths. There were “good times” when a new energy resource was in the early stages of its plundering, such as the hunter-gatherer days when new lands were “discovered” and before the megafauna were all driven to extinction, the “pioneer days” of completely deforesting North America’s Eastern Woodlands, of the first century of exploiting oil, or the easy days of whaling in the Northern Atlantic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

and so on. But in each instance, the resource was quickly depleted, with resource depletion crises following. The so-called era of abundance has been correctly termed exuberance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

which is a far cry from abundance. The only times when human civilization was somewhat sustainable was in Stone Age cultures, probably because they did not have the tools to rape the land like smelting cultures could. It is true that modern anthropologists who study the cultures of the day all choose living as an Iroquois over a European in 1492 (see Mann’s 1491), but that does not mean that Indians lived in some kind of paradise. Europe in 1492 was a kind of hell on Earth.

There is no going backward, but forward. Our technologies made us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

as our ancestors learned how to wrench ever more energy from the environment. Humanity has yet to really move past its killer ape heritage, but with the level of energy used in industrialized civilization, it has come closer than it ever has before. The institution of slavery is gone, as is the virtual slavery of women. That happened wherever humans industrialized:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#women

because high energy use meant freedom in its most literal sense.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5

The pastoral fantasies promoted by people like Mead really set the science back a bit. But Golden Age myths are also as old as civilization. When the Spaniards came a conquering, the Aztecs also had their Golden Age myths, of a time when there was peace and plenty. In reality, that state really never existed, except on the Astral Plane. :)

But if enough of us achieved our potential sentience and let go all of our scarcity-based conditioning, that so-called Golden Age (or whatever you want to call this world http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1) may not be so far off. Is it going to be hell on Earth, or heaven on Earth? That decision rests with humanity, and to the extent that everybody abdicates their responsibility and sentience for the promise of a full belly, we are doomed. It can be different, but it will not fall in our laps. We have to do the work.

I have a few more minutes before I go.

Limor, I see it similarly to how AWP does. The younger souls will not be much help in making FE happen, just like children can’t drive trucks or perform many other adult tasks. But once it does happen, they are going to find life a lot easier. I have seen plenty of arguments that life is supposed to be a vale of tears here, as this is what our souls came for. Well, I fire my benighted soul, then. :) If my soul thinks that suffering is so great for its development, it can come down here and revel in it. My earthly personality is not my soul, and whoever spoke in my head may have had my best interests at heart, and the planet’s, but I am not interested in spooky voices anymore. For me, it is about what this earthly personality can do, in the here and now. Love and wisdom are never wasted; this, I know. I know what can be, and if virtually nobody on this planet can see it or want it, then I am going to ask for a different assignment next time, if there is a next time for this planet.

Time for work.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
22nd October 2012, 16:37
...Margaret Mead is an interesting case. She was likely the source of the recommendation to NASA to cover up the ET presence:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings...



That is interesting, about Margaret Mead. Thank you for the clarity Wade! She may not have been the ideal anthropologist to quote, but got quoted none the less in my wish not to be the lone voice in an exuberant post. Perhaps I’ve borrowed her words for a use she wouldn’t have intended. Which (somewhat questionably) appeases the rebel in me :)

It was interesting to hear you refer to your father, in post 2372, saying that you “have known more brilliant minds, such as my father’s.” That piqued my curiosity. He sounds like quite a strong individual. The NASA genius who was open to aura-reading, and reversed his health issues quite late in life with a new diet. Meant to mention it before, but got lost in the length of my previous post. It’s really interesting, hearing about that time in your life. The rise and adventures of Little Wade.

You mentioned that some people might perceive your determination in pursuing what you believed in as simply not growing up. That’s such a common one it seems, and always begs the question of how much of what we define as ‘growing up’ is in fact growing down or simply stalling our growth. It can be so hard to keep our hearts open as we ride through life, and the pressures mount to create acceptable versions of ourselves. Reminds me of the words Jesus is meant to have said: “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

To Sandy - you always bring the sunshine with your posts.
Even when you’re angry about something, the authenticity in your indignation shines through like a sunny beam of truth-seeking :) As you’ve known for a while, I’m so grateful for your presence here. You’ll always be sunshine Sandy to me < AWP lays down worn, miscellaneous bag of tools; strolls in with a tray of tea and cake >

Well... I think that's my word quota for the week.

Ixopoborn
23rd October 2012, 09:21
“Calling all Old Souls. You are needed, here and now. Please bring the fruit of your incarnations to bear on this situation. This is our species’ moment of truth. If we can help our species turn the corner, we can have a fulfilling retirement and the youngsters can take the reins, once they have been properly educated. If not, many souls are going to fall back all the way to the beginning, and we will all have a hand in that failure, both in what we have been doing on this planet, and what we have not been doing. This is the time to finally get it right. Are you ready to help?”
Wade

Dear Wade - for the life of me I have not been able to locate the link you posted regarding soul ages sometime within the last few weeks. The best I can now do in the way of links is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm , followed by a text search on "soul age"

- this gets you to the point I found interesting.

Having the constellation of Virgo sitting behind the Sun when I was born causes me to be rather self-deprecating which gives rise to a tendency to understate the worth of most things, including myself, nearly all the time. However, if I disengage from being self-critical for a moment, I think it fair to call me at least "mature" on the above scale - even when I was a boy, people have always commented on my emotional depth. There are definitely times when I have "old" tendencies but, it seems to me, I also have moments when I pay attention to accomplishments which I suppose might make me "young" at times.

Your intellect is just great - I knew this after 3 or 4 reads of your material. My intellect is good overall but not genius level. I tend to score about 120 on most IQ tests but nonetheless God seems to have wired my brain badly because for some reason I am appallingly bad at all IQ test questions of the alphabet kind - a psychologist once told me I suffer mildly from dyslexia.

A number of us regular thread followers may be thinking the same as me - I want to help the FE cause even having been badly thwarted in previous attempts but feel broadly incompetent and possibly unfit spiritually.

Can you help with that question?

Limor Wolf
23rd October 2012, 13:54
Hello AWP,

It is good to know that I am not alone with those thoughts, and I appreciate your reminder that we all have this ability to tap into this field of energy and use it for our own good as well as for others. In your own word :


"... adjusting our mood so our body is in a better state to fix any ailments it feels. We all have a frame of reference for those kinds of examples in our own lives"

I think we do, and it's boggling sometimes (in a positive way) when the connection is so very obvious.

The Washington experiment is a great example to the effect of intentions and focused concentration on others, it is part of what is called The Maharish effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Effect), although, it probably shouldn't be limited to transcendental meditation only. Our world, unfortunetly is the outcome of a focused creation by others and by our own confused following which is done out of ignorance. It is about time that each will decide where they put their hearts and minds , my only 'problem ' is that those Physical truths are not known to all, if it was, then the young souls could set themselves to paint anything they wish to, even if it will looks like scattered stains, much like our modern paintings and it will be 100% their own business. but that's not the case.

I do understand that young souls will not be able to operate in our desired world of FE, at least, not in the same way they operate now (i.e on an autopilot), it is after all a quantum leap even for the more mature souls and some adaptation will be required for everyone (I say bring it on!)

It seems that both you and Wade agree that young souls have a place in a world based on free energy, where abundance and harmony prevail. but, as Wade puts it (and done it), there will be those who jump head into the water, there are the pioneers, the rearguards and everyone in between. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.


Hi Wade,


Originally posted by Wade Frazier: “Calling all Old Souls. You are needed, here and now. Please bring the fruit of your incarnations to bear on this situation. This is our species’ moment of truth. If we can help our species turn the corner, we can have a fulfilling retirement and the youngsters can take the reins, once they have been properly educated. If not, many souls are going to fall back all the way to the beginning, and we will all have a hand in that failure, both in what we have been doing on this planet, and what we have not been doing. This is the time to finally get it right. Are you ready to help?”

These are powerful and strong words! it feels like this call deserves a thread of its own.

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Those snowy conifers are really a beautiful sight ! In one of your prior attached photos of hiking during summer, I could see the snow-capped peaks peering from the mountain tops, it was in such a stark contrast to the intense heat of Israel, that I felt like asking you whether the picture was indeed updated.

I had a trip to Akko yesterday. Akko, is an old and very enchanting port town in the north west of Israel, while we walked the beautiful alleys and smelled the sea salt in the air, it was also sad to see how human intervention in nature has polluted the sea and affected its inabitants, also how the excessive fishing and cruise ships around the harbour area has damaged the natural health and beauty of this little gem of a town, and there are so many places like this all over the world. It all derives from the race after biodegradable energy, in order to get some temporary energy, whether it is food or fuel, or money, we are ripping and raping the earth. but we know that Fe will soon change all that :)


The first picture is near the harbor area and the others are some good places to simply sit and reflect

Wade Frazier
23rd October 2012, 14:01
Hi Ixopoborn:

Here is a more specific link on soul ages:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age

As I have been stating, I don’t think that all that much “intelligence” is needed to help FE along. It is vastly more important where a person’s heart is. There is an aspect of where I could be wrong on this approach, in that “intelligence” is needed to understand the complexity of systems. To really understand how FE can be the foundation of a totally different paradigm for the human journey, abundance, where it is scarcity today and has been for the entirety of the human journey until now, a holistic approach is needed, which is another way of saying a systems approach. When you understand how systems work, you are thinking comprehensively. Comprehensive thinking allows you to see the forest and the trees. You can see the root, and refrain from hacking at branches. Scientific thinking is systems thinking at its best. The reductionism of White Science only has merit when it is integrated into systems thinking – seeing the big picture, as well as the small. That is the big challenge, and really, not many White Scientists can do that, but while “intelligence” has something to do with it, I found that the desire the see the big picture is really the most important quality.

It took me many years to begin to understand why some very smart people were blind, deaf, and dumb to FE; they were addicted to scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

I am not saying that it is easy to think comprehensively, which is why I continually say that we need to do the work.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

I learned how to think comprehensively by the seat of my britches, and I think that others can learn enough so that they are not led astray, and this is one of the pitfalls of this field. But, if I may be so bold, the enemy of FE and an abundance paradigm is really egocentric thinking, if it may be termed that. Take, McLuhan’s book, for instance, as he constantly exposes the highly irrational and sloppy “thinking” of the “skeptics.” I thought more clearly when I was five years old than the “skeptics” do, and not because I was so smart, but because I wanted to know the truth. The “skeptics,” and we are talking about many of whom were world-class scientists such as Carl Sagan, engaged in highly irrational thinking, and many believed that they were being smart and perceptive. How can supposedly “smart” people be so irrational? I think that the soul age idea can explain a lot of it. Michael likens it to how people age. Can a five-year-old understand romantic love? What is it like to be a parent? The younger souls simply can’t understand how older souls think. They don’t have the experience yet.

As I have been stating recently, the obtuseness of the “skeptics” and other establishment defenders can’t all be chalked up to willful stupidity as they defend their belief systems. Some of them are being consciously dishonest.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571831&viewfull=1#post571831

I have encountered this a number of times, as they take their masks off, leaving me no doubt that they knew what they were doing. They usually take their masks off as they sink their daggers in. And even when they take off their masks, I have seen people continue to deny that their masks were off, making excuses for them, when it was plain to anybody with eyes to see. People seem to need to have a few of those kinds of experiences to understand. But in this field, some provocateurs are very good at what they do, and I have watched them gull naïve scientists and engineers almost effortlessly, who were completely deaf to my warnings. Even though scientists can be incredibly naïve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

they were usually being dishonorable as they were being gulled. If you study gangsters at all, you will find that they often prey on people’s greed and dishonesty. Their cons really don’t work on honest people. It is the bait of self-interest, of cutting some corner or getting an ill-gotten windfall, which attracts their prey.

So, it is not really intelligence, not really, that I think is needed, or at least not how the West defines it. Everybody whom I really respect, the “radicals” like me, were all a bunch of overgrown Boy Scouts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

When Brian O openly wondered if humanity was really a sentient species, after years of knocking on all the doors where he was formerly welcome and a member of The Club:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

it was not because his scientist buds were a bunch of idiots; it was because they refused to shed their indoctrination for even a second, and treated Brian’s message as a great threat. As Brian said in our Camelot interview, they were all protecting their self-interest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#heels

Ranking knowing the truth over what we were taught is more important than how “smart” we are. The first interview that I did was about ten years ago, by a guy who traveled the world, seeking out visionaries and leading-edge thinkers. I asked him what they had in common, and he said that they were all intelligent and had high energy. I think that what he figured I assumed was that their hearts were in the right place to begin with.

A lot of what you see in my interactions with the public is people trying to find an easy answer, something that is immediately useful for their lives, a short-cut to FE, and so on. That is the ego talking. We are not going to get to FE via the proclivities of the ego. I saw far too many times how if people were in it for self-interest, they quickly fell by the wayside, and in this field, with the perils and temptations being so great, it was truly a life-threatening milieu for the egocentric. My site is partly designed to be a barrier to the egocentric. For instance, I have found that virtually none of my “peers” – white, educated, American men - can read very far into the introductory essay on my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm

without blowing a fuse. The crazy tirades that I received over that essay, back when I interacted with the public, was something to behold. I have had several college professor pals over the years, and one college professor has read the “losers” section of that essay to his college class (in the USA):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#progress

He said that the students all looked poleaxed when he finished it, and that was at a “liberal” college.

I could give many examples like that, but the point is the same: only those with mature perspectives, who can give up the egocentric conceits that keep them mired in their scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

can be much help on the FE front these days. Giving up the security blankets of our conditioning is extremely frightening for younger souls, and I am not encouraging them to give them up. When they can see abundance with their own eyes, then they will begin to lay aside the teddy bears of their conditioning. That is why I keep stressing, for instance, that Level 10 attempts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

that play into ideological and victim-oriented ways of viewing the world, are doomed. I have been a part of several of those attempts, and the people they attracted fell far short of the awareness needed to break through the scarcity-based ways of thinking. Heck, I still have to work at it every day. Brian was never quite able to completely shed his conditioning and experience. Advising all of those presidential candidates, and “protesting,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after

put him in the retail politics orbit that he never fully left. He had moments when he admitted what a dead-end retail politics was, or how silly it was to apply for a patent on FE technology, as he advocated open-sourcing it, but I would watch him vacillate over the years. And Brian was one of the greatest men that I ever knew. I watched Dennis vacillate between the fat cat and Joe Average ways of mounting an FE effort many times. In the end, Joe Average provided the only help that Dennis ever got, but Joe Average was usually there for self-serving reasons, which comes with the territory of mounting business efforts. When the potential payoff is quadrillions of dollars:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

few people can navigate those waters for long before greed rears its head, and Godzilla takes out greedy people in his sleep. The greedy, the garage tinkerers who want to get patents and raise money, are the easiest people for Godzilla to defeat. The desire for fame and fortune are deadly obstacles in this milieu, and that is the motivation for virtually every inventor that I ever met, although they would usually say the pretty words, until the rubber hit the road, and then they betrayed their true motivation.

As I have stated many times, this FE issue is a conundrum like no other that I know of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#summary

and I find that the only people who deny that have no experience in the field or do not have much idea of how energy runs the world. Godzilla knows it all too well, which is why the lid is kept so tightly on FE. Again, when I see the naïve inventors of the hour and their entourages, doing conferences, talking about how they are almost ready to unveil their gizmos, I shake my head and really don’t want to look. They literally have no idea what they are up against as they sally forth. I was looking at that recent conference with Rossi, and how he talked about how he was just doing it how God was instructing him to do, and other statements. It is a retread of Dennis’s speeches from the 1980s. Divine inspiration in some FE hero is not enough. If it was, then that voice that led me on my journey would have led me to FE instead of a catastrophe. I only know of one person on Earth who meets these qualifications:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

and it is not enough, no matter how mind-boggling efforts like Dennis’s have been. One hero can’t do it. Ten can’t. A hundred could:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

but there are likely not a hundred like that to find. About a hundred like Mr. Professor and ten like Dennis could also make a run at it, but I have only met a few remotely like Mr. Professor. He was a saint, and his involvement in my adventures cost him his life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

Stuff like Thrive is a Level 10, kindergarten-ish effort, and all that I see with something like that is a bunch of sheep being led to slaughter. Virtually nobody is trying to aim high, but are all aiming low, trying to find a common denominator in the masses that they can all get aboard with. The problem is that it becomes watered down and often is complaint-based (AKA victim-oriented, like the Occupy Movement and most rad left political action), and is defeated almost effortlessly by Godzilla, if he even needs to roll out of bed. Efforts like those (which are based on fear, not love, if you look deeply enough) usually collapse from within or succumb to the most elementary suppression tactics by the lower-level predators, and Godzilla does not even need to lift a claw. I have seen all of those doomed approaches, and lived through a number of them, and am trying to do something very different. Ilie and a few others understand well enough to where they are hitting the notes, and at this time that is all that I ask for and this effort may never go beyond the choir stage, and that is fine. There needs to be an abundance choir someplace in the world, and I have yet to find one. And learning to sing is not life-risking behavior. People who want to go play FE hero-martyr are advised to go play it someplace else. Go see Dennis. Go see Greer. Go on your own, but please don’t try to enlist the choir to be your spear carriers. And know that you likely will not survive the experience, and the only way that you will scale those ramparts is if Godzilla allows you to, and I have seen the best of the best try, and valiantly. Heart and guts and cleverness is not enough, not for a stray hero or two, not for this.

I was hoping to get to some of my screw-ups as a youngster, but it will have to wait. When I was younger, reviewing my screw-ups was a painful process, but after I got past my midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

I was able to look at them with something approaching fondness, thinking about what a fine mess I made of things. My sins have not been so large, at least in this lifetime, but they were great learning experiences. Life here seems to be about screwing up and learning from it, but playing those games at the FE level is like playing with nuclear dynamite.

Time for work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
23rd October 2012, 14:43
Hi Limor:

I delayed getting on my bus (they come by every half hour), and have some time for your latest post. Glad you like the picture. Yes, pictures like that are a far cry from where you live. Finding unsullied nature where you live is almost impossible, not after several thousand years of “civilization.” Nice chairs on the rocks. In Washington and northward to Alaska, there are beaches that are primeval wilderness, where you can backpack for many miles along the shore. Today, debris from Japan is floating ashore, sadly.

On my calling all Old Souls paragraph, I don’t know if we are ready for that yet, but you are welcome to try.

One reason why I am going about FE the way that I am is that maybe the Young Souls want to get their opportunity to blow the planet up, and who do I think I am, ruining their fun? So, I do what I can, but allow others to play their games. One version of what might be ahead is for the relatively few who survive the karmic blowout that may be just around the corner, that the Old Souls form the first true Utopia, somewhere on the planet. I have a hard time imagining that FE would not be the cornerstone of it, but maybe those souls feel that playing small ball is the way to start. What I am doing can be seen as trying to avoid the blowout, and as many can live on a healed planet as possible. There is truly a “battle for souls” happening, I think, with the dark pathers wanting to knock humanity back down to the bottom of the ladder rather than give up their power.

We were snowed out this year on the larch hunt, but I am attaching one from last year’s successful expedition. Sublime stuff.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
23rd October 2012, 15:22
On my calling all Old Souls paragraph, I don’t know if we are ready for that yet, but you are welcome to try.

One reason why I am going about FE the way that I am is that maybe the Young Souls want to get their opportunity to blow the planet up, and who do I think I am, ruining their fun? So, I do what I can, but allow others to play their games. One version of what might be ahead is for the relatively few who survive the karmic blowout that may be just around the corner, that the Old Souls form the first true Utopia, somewhere on the planet.

Hi Wade. Without one shred of evidence, I think we are merely at another familiar part of a grand cycle, and a cycle that goes well beyond our old friend Atlantis. When people like us made certain that Atlantis was dissolved into the dust bin of history, who's to say there weren't those at the time who had already been through the old song and dance, were ready to move on, and hopped off the merry go round of Samsara to go do other things. While we did ours.

If we indeed reside in the sacred realm of what Buddhists call Samsara, then that means It will never change, only We can.



Cheers,
Fred

Limor Wolf
23rd October 2012, 15:55
Hi,

I am sorry about the bus. These larches are magical, and they are truely golden in this last picture. Mother earth is really generous by giving us these wonderful companions, and the photoynthesis that keeps us alive.
I only managed to view those in Italy at the Abruzzo national park, in the Apennines region. As you say finding nature that is not interfered in my area is hardly possible, and the few pieces of natural forest usually suffer from fires and the intended uprooting of trees for construction purpose :(

My favorit are all the trees all the plants, all the bushes etc. Eucalyptuses are something else. They are ancient, wise, strong and they have healing effects, they are also very attentive..

A piece of land where a human foot has rarley been stepped on is a far dream for me, so in the meantime, I will settle for the Eucalyptuses around my house

Ixopoborn
23rd October 2012, 20:08
I don’t think that all that much “intelligence” is needed to help FE along. It is vastly more important where a person’s heart is.
Wade
That's great - other doubts aside, I dont doubt my heart is strong enough to participate in this - it always was!

Nor do I doubt the hearts of many other regular thread followers. This is really good news for me. Thank you!

Wade Frazier
24th October 2012, 03:36
Hi Ixopoborn:

What makes Ilie sing is his heart, not his head. Sandy sings. What I am trying to do is bridge the heart and head, the left and right sides of the brain. A holistic approach needs to take it all into account. Do not worry about being “smart” enough. The desire is what is important. As I repeat, it is all about love. That is the key, which the masters have been saying for a very long time. :)

Hi Fred:

The East sees time as circular, the West as linear, but it is really a spiral, I believe. Evolution happens, both for species, planets, and souls. Two of my favorite mind-bogglers from channels is Seth’s statement that Earth is trillions of years old, and Michael’s statement that the universe has expanded and collapsed more times than there are atoms in our universe. Humanity is on journey, and will not really end up back where it started, any more than Bilbo returned to the Shire after his adventures with the dwarves as the same hobbit. As Twain said, history does not repeat itself, but it rhymes.

I don’t want to get ahead of myself too much, but I have been told, apparently by an archangel, that I was part of the group that planned Earth School, and my soul group was supposed to be retired by now, but we have this one final task, which is to help right the ship so that it can keep sailing. Is that true? Beats me, but in another session with the same channel, I was told that I had a contract to have a once-in-a-lifetime event, and it unexpectedly happened later the same day. So, that channel has some cred with me. All I know is what is in front of me, and I know what can be. If God is going to call off the game, he is going to have to come down and tell me. Otherwise, I keep on with my mission. :)

OK Limor, one more larch photo from last year. Glad you get some nature where you are.

To all, I just arranged it so that I will be able to devote time next year, a lot of it, to my writing, and that essay will get written, and far more. And then we will see where it all leads to.

Best,

Wade

sandy
24th October 2012, 04:51
Oh Wade :)

( arranged it so I will be able to devote a lot more time next year to my writings ) I'm crying and at the same time so excited >>>>>boy what a mixture of emotions with your latest post!! JOY,JOY, JOY :wave:

Hang on and Hang in my brothers and sisters as we are riding the WAVE of FREE ENERGY!!! Calling all sentient beings~~~~~~~~~The Choir chairs (Limor please bring your ocean rock seats and AWP please remember to bring your tea and cakes :) )
are open for the sitting of "Old Souls" and may the guardians of such hear and heed the call :angel:

Who knows maybe in a few seasons to come we will meet and have a get together to "raze the roof" on FE!!

I'm already figuring how many campers, tents, etc could fit on my property, the town has a bed/breakfast, camping grounds and I can house at least 4 siblings. ( I even have an old Outhouse in my garage I could reinstate>>>hahaha)>>>Haven't felt a buzz of excitement like this in a long time :) I will keep dreaming and visualizing as long as it takes!! LOVE ABOUNDS in my world because You ALL are in it!!

Robert J. Niewiadomski
24th October 2012, 12:43
Hi :)

Wade if you will have MORE time to post on PA i will have to leave my day job to keep up with your pace. Or will focus my whole atention on this thread only. Finally! Either way is good for me :) Thank you for inviting us into your private world of memories :) It is a valuable experience to see "what is inside of Wade" ;)

I really feel for all of us who miss contact with nature. Unspoiled or not. I was rised in a small suburban town surrounded by thick pine forest. I literrary lived in that forest. Nowdays i moved to "the city" and i miss those trees very much. Can't wait for the time when we begin dismantling big cities and other man made constructions as depicted in one of Wade's vision posts. It will be great to turn our planet into the Eden at last :)

[update]
Some photos of "the pine forest" (very small sample). Not mine. Have borrowed them from the web page of my "small town".
http://www.michalin.pl/swider/grafika/zdjecia/swider_11.jpg
River Świder (means Drill or Corkscrew)

http://www.michalin.pl/swider/grafika/zdjecia/swider_22.jpg
River Świder (means Drill or Corkscrew)

http://www.michalin.pl/grafika/zdjecia/michalin_pl_12.jpg
Forest on the afterglacier moraine

Wade Frazier
24th October 2012, 14:29
Hi:

OK, on to some screw-ups. Part of my motivation for pursuing FE is to make everybody’s environment a better one. Scarcity conditions people in subtle and insidious ways, and history has clearly shown that harsh environments produce harsh people, and gentle environments produce (relatively) gentle people. When people screw up (or from the soul’s perspective, perhaps, when personalities get to play in physical reality and learn by hurting others and being hurt in return, for reasons only the souls know), they have influences that they are reacting to. Humans have a unique ability to choose, and thereby we create the karma that only sentient species can amass.

I was born and raised in the USA, and have only spent a couple months outside of it, in Europe. The USA is a warrior nation, a highly competitive one, an increasingly obese one, and one with many myths about its unique virtue. It is history’s richest and most powerful nation, and its imperial crimes are legion, while its populace deludes itself that we are the good guys. The USA is often compared to Rome, for good reason.

I was gifted in several ways. I was raised in American middle class suburbia, riding history’s greatest economic bubble, and am a member of history’s most privileged demographic group: white, educated, American men. Not only did I inherit a high IQ, but I was a gifted athlete, had Nordic good looks, and a gentle personality. I had a Boy Scout’s personality, always trying to do the right thing. But I also incarnated right into the middle of a nation that was in the midst of slaughtering several million people that lived on another continent.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#toll1

I was raised to compete, with my brother being my first playmate. It was rarely much fun. We played board games like Monopoly, sports such as baseball, football and basketball. School was a competitive affair, with sports and games. Academics came easily to me, but there were constant competitions, such as flash cards where students competed to give the fastest answer to multiplication and division problems. That was a big class activity when I lived in Houston, because my father was involved in a competition to beat the Soviets to the moon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

and when he decided that he did not want to play any more after the Apollo 1 disaster, the military took vengeance on him by not reimbursing his move back to California. While growing up, my friends were all swept up into the same culture, by and large, as they were athletes and students, clambering to the top. Some of my friends and others that I grew up with eventually became professional athletes.

I stopped playing organized sports for several years as I hit my teenage years, and may have never played them again, if not for having my first crush on a girl, when I was seventeen. She was a star athlete, a runner and a starting player on the basketball team that won the state championship. I was a classic nerd in my pursuit of her. I had taken up golf a few years earlier, and planned to join the golf team as a way to play golf every day, for free. But she was a runner, and I joined the track team, instead, hoping that she would join the girl’s team (she was a long-distance runner). Well, she didn’t join the team, but I ended up in organized track until I graduated from college.

I was a talented long-distance runner and jumper (long jump and high jump). My teachers were often coaches of the high school’s sports teams. My math teacher coached the basketball team, my biology and chemistry teacher coached the swim and water polo teams, and my health class and PE teacher coached the football and baseball teams. Being the science prodigy, I became buddies with my science teacher, and we kept in touch. The health teacher and football coach lived in my housing development. Both of those teachers also attended the same high school where they taught, and were big sports stars in their athletic days. The football coach married the homecoming queen, and the science teacher married a daughter of a local land baron, and he was fifteen years older than she was (I suspect that he married for money). They were about the same age, and when they hit their midlife crisis years in their early forties, they became “legends” as they slept with their students. I lived in Ohio at the time, and heard the news clear from there, as they made news two years in a row:

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-01-14/local/me-11643_1_ventura-high-school

My math teacher had become the athletic director of the school when all of that happened, and I shudder to think what he went through. When I went to college, I did not have the talent to star in running or jumping, but I had a world-class throwing arm and became a javelin thrower. Our college football team was a powerhouse, sending students to the big schools, and the guy whose locker was next to mine became a pro football player:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Porras

and he had his very own sex scandal with a student, too, after his playing days were over and he became a coach.

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2008/02/free-at-last-tom-porras-case-dismissed

One of my best friends while growing up was a talented tennis player, his father was a top-ten nationally-ranked player in his playing days, and that became the connection for many of my friends to be tennis players. He also developed a gambling addiction, and I would play with him, doing my friend thing. We gambled on golf, pool, croquet and other sports/games and, most significantly, he held poker games at his house regularly. I was such a regular loser that the standing joke among his friends was asking if I brought my checkbook to pay for my losses. Those days gave me an aversion to all forms of gaming and gambling. I have not played a competitive game since college, and have not played a competitive sport in many years and never will again.

After my first crush, a couple of years later I had my first relationship with a woman. Being raised in a Southern California beach town, not far from Hollywood, all of my girlfriends were “babes.” While my athletic friends were virtually in the sexual Olympics during those college years, I pursued “wholesome” women who generally wanted to save it for marriage, or if they sampled sex before, with me they wanted to stay “pure.” So, I stayed a virgin through my first relationship that lasted two years. My tennis-playing friend from down the street, however, was running through women like there was no tomorrow, and eventually “settled down” with a woman who was an athlete and cheerleader, and a babe with a capital “B.” He cheated on her all the time, and even had a “rule” that he would not cheat on her if they were in the same town, but when he was out of town, any woman was fair game. All of his friends began to hit on her, thinking that she was fair game, except for me. My first relationship had ended, and she began to throw herself at me, probably precisely because I did not hit on her. I tried to prevent it from happening, but after a year of her doing that (she was obviously unhappy with her philandering boyfriend) I ended up losing my virginity with her when I was twenty-two. It was my last year in college, and it was my last chance for meaningless athletic glory (and I will get into those days in a future post), and a few days after that betrayal, I hurt my back in a weight-lifting incident, aggravated it by returning to competition too quickly, and I have a permanent back injury, in the middle of my back (where the emotions chakra is), and I am sure that it is no coincidence that I betrayed my friend (no matter how justified and understandable it was) a few days before developing a permanent back injury. That injury ended my athletic career.

I confessed my crime years later, and never saw that friend again. I reached out to him about twenty years ago, asking for forgiveness, and got it. He understood his contribution to that situation, but that betrayal was my life’s greatest crime. As a result of that incident, I became the most loyal friend that anybody could ask for, and I sometimes wonder how much of that influenced my decision to sacrifice my life to rescue Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

I think that it did influence me. So, my greatest crime likely influenced my most heroic act. It surely was not the only influence, but it was there, I think.

More screw-ups coming, but that was my big one. Sorry that I could not provide anything more spectacular. :)

Best,

Wade

OK, I missed one bus, and will append this post with my track and field days. I had no idea that chasing that woman would land me into the middle of the Golden Age of American track and field. I was an underachiever, ultimately, in track, kind of as I was in baseball and other sports, not quite dedicating myself to achieving at the highest levels. I was around people who did, however, and saw what it took to get there. To play at the highest levels, you have to eat, drink, and sleep the sport. I should have been about a six-foot-eight high jumper, but my best meet jump was only six-foot-two as a freshman (an inch over my standing height), before I could jump higher the next year. The first mile that I ran for time was 5:15, and I could have been about a 4:30 miler if I trained for it, but becoming a jumper was less work. :) I could have become a benchwarmer on my high school basketball team. While my javelin-throwing pals thought that I should have been about a 250-foot javelin thrower, I only achieved about 210, and ended up getting a permanent back injury out of the deal.

But in my freshman year of college, I unknowingly walked into a Golden Age. The year before, when I was chasing that girl and forsook golf for track, a schoolboy in Florida tied the world record in the 100-yard dash:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_McTear

He came from a poor family, and was at about the Usain Bolt level of celebrity that year, and Muhammad Ali bought that sprinter’s parents a house and said that he would support his aspirations. Southern California junior college athletics was like a professional development system in those days, with anybody being able to play for a junior college, and that barely literate sprinter moved to California and went to school at Santa Monica Community College. My first college track meet was a dual meet at our school with Santa Monica, so the world record holder was at my first college meet. He was at all the big meets that year, easily beating everybody, but he was far from the only big name on the scene.

The Canadian javelin champion joined a junior college in LA and dominated the javelin competition that year, but in the middle of season another thrower appeared on the scene from the same school as that Canadian, and he eventually set the world record a few times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Petranoff

At those same meets, a man from Oxnard, next to Ventura, competed in the shot put. He held the American record for a while, threatened to set the world record, and won an Olympic medal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Laut

I have to catch a bus soon, but being in the middle of all of those world-class athletes was quite an experience, and I have more to tell. California Junior colleges were producing world record holders and professional athletes. A basketball player from my junior college team (years after I graduated, but Mr. Professor kind of ran the college in ways, so I heard plenty about him) became an NBA star:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedric_Ceballos

Those days impacted me in ways that affect me today, and I’ll get more into that in a future post.

Best,

Wade

trenairio
24th October 2012, 19:39
Is Peak Resources a concern? From my research, oil will last for centuries, conventional oil will peak because of newly discovered shale gas, oil shale, tar sands, etc especially in North America. So if we have enough oil, why do we need to convert to free energy?

Robert J. Niewiadomski
24th October 2012, 21:13
Is Peak Resources a concern? From my research, oil will last for centuries, conventional oil will peak because of newly discovered shale gas, oil shale, tar sands, etc especially in North America. So if we have enough oil, why do we need to convert to free energy?
You have just tripped on a land mine with that ;)

Let us assume you are right on the part that oil will last for centuries. That means more centuries of atrocitous invasions whenever and wherever new deposits are discovered. Most probably but i could be wrong. That also means more centuries of fuel distribution network and our continuous dependency on the capacity limit of the transport vehicles fuel tank. No matter how eficient the drive. More centuries of polution. Unless the vehicles are fitted with exhaust purifying devices. More centuries of laborous movement of matter using energy obtained from localised energy of limited quantity of fuel in the tank. And what with the ownership of the oil deposits? I can imagine that all resources including hydrocarbons are owned by all of humanity on equal rights. That means that humanity arrived at such level of sentience that we are ready for FE. And there is no point then in spending time on improving engine eficiency of fuel cosumption or designing exhaust cleaning systems when you can do away with fuel. With FE on board you never run out of fuel because it's fuel is EVERYWHERE you go. No need for drilling for oil. No need to clean the oil spills from that drilling and puting cost of damages to the environment on the shoulders of our children and their children and the children of their children and so on. No need for hauling that oil to the refinery. No need for the refined oil to be trucked to the fueling stations. No need for people to work their asses off just to pour that fuel into the tank just to come back for more in a couple of days and to be able to work that ass off to be able to fill the tank in a couple of days again to... you catch my drill. Ok let it be weeks. Depends on your road hunger. Do you really want to be depenedent on localized energy when you can be free with omnipresent energy? Strange...

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The idea of using oil in the centuries to come reminds me of Isaac Asimov's Foundation series where there were spaceships powered by burning coal. And the civilisation becoming so oblivious to science and technology that there were almost no people who remeber how that technology worked.

Wade Frazier
25th October 2012, 08:03
Hi Trenairio:

The Peak Oil issue is a fairly marginal issue in my work. This thread over the past few months has covered the early stages of life on Earth and how the coal beds and oil deposits were first laid down. They aren’t making any more of it, and I consider the abiotic oil theories weak. When plate tectonics and related theories developed, the abiotic oil theory dropped into the dustbin of history, although you can still find it being promoted in certain fringe corners. It has long been estimated that in 1859 there were about two trillion barrels of recoverable oil in the ground. Even the most optimistic recent assertions have moved it closer to three trillion, so that is a pretty narrow range of estimates. There have been no major finds since the 1970s. We have burned about a trillion barrels so far, and are burning about thirty billion per year, and more than 80% of the world’s population is not industrialized. If everybody merely lived at the USA’s level of lifestyle using fossil fuels, what is left in the ground, even at the optimistic three trillion barrel number, would be gone in less than twenty years. As it is, we will likely burn through all of it in my lifetime at projected rates. Hundreds of millions of years in the making, and all burned up in about two hundred years. Burning up a resource a million times as fast as it was created, and there not being any more when it is gone, is not exactly sustainable. :)

But the Peak Oil issue is a small part of the thrust of my work. As the Peak Oilers know, resource depletion crises don’t manifest when the last drop is burned, but around when production peaks, which has plateaued in the past several years, globally. We may be at Peak Oil, now. The era of cheap gasoline is gone forever. American energy consumption per capita peaked when the American standard of living did, in the early 1970s. Energy is the economy, and always has been, which the Peak Oilers understand quite well:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#fossil

The USA’s repeated invasions of Hydrocarbon Country in the past generation have everything to do with the oil (including the saber rattling with Iran these days). No rational non-American on Earth thinks any differently. Fracking, exploiting shale oil and tar sands, etc., are classic resource depletion activities. After the cream has been skimmed, then humans work their way through the lower quality resources until they eventually are sucking at the dregs. The EROI for oil production in Texas in the 1920s was over a hundred. With the tar sands, shale oil and the like, it is less than four, and all are environmentally catastrophic practices.

The air and water pollution aspects of acquiring and burning hydrocarbons are creating many environmental catastrophes, and would be reason enough by themselves to abandon fossil fuels.

The downsides of burning hydrocarbons include:

1. The practice is not sustainable, and we will burn through them in the geological-time-scale blink of an eye.

2. There is not enough hydrocarbon fuel for the entire world to industrialize, and the poor nations' inability to was partly an outcome of colonialism and can clearly be seen today in what the USA has done to Iraq, for instance. Turn them back into Stone Age peasants (for those that we don’t exterminate outright), and they can’t use the oil, so we can steal it.

3. We are only seeing the early years of global wars over the dwindling hydrocarbon fuels, which Heinberg called “Plan War” (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#catton ).

4. Burning fossil fuels is creating vast environmental damage. Acidifying the oceans is one effect, but the most dramatic may end up being melting enough land-based ice to flood the world’s coastal regions, which would displace at least a quarter of humanity for starters, and the consequences of that are truly hard to imagine. It would make World War II and the Black Death look like tame warm-ups.

Those are just some of the downsides of relying on fossil fuels, and that is just one aspect of our catastrophic energy practices. As I type this, I am breathing in radioactive fallout from Japan, and the worst may well still be coming on that score. If the spent fuel pool at Fukushima collapses, they will have to evacuate Tokyo for starters, which would be the end of Japan as we know it. It is hard to even imagine that one, and should give everybody an idea of what displacing a couple billion people due to rising seas would look like. I know people who have already fled to the Southern Hemisphere because of the threat that Fukushima presents.

With free energy, all of those issues can disappear almost overnight. Not only that, but all environmental damage from our energy production methods could easily vanish (including outdoor farming, deforestation, etc.), and the human standard of living could leap upward by orders of magnitude (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced ). Framing the free energy issue as “We (as in Americans, if we kill off enough dark-skinned peoples who get in our way) have enough oil and coal to last for centuries, so why even think about free energy?” does not have much to do with my work.

I wrote this before seeing Robert’s reaction, and his addresses other aspects of the situation.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th October 2012, 15:59
Hi:

Missed one bus, so I have a few minutes. Those college days were extraordinary in ways, but I only have time for my first academic failure. Seventh grade and my first semester of college were my two hardest stints in school, as I went into a much more intense scholastic environment. I was pretty much straight As all the way through my college diploma, except for those two stints, and my first semester in college broke me of a bad habit that I got from my mother: watching television.

Even though I was a bookworm from the time I could walk, I also watched plenty of that TV that my mother had on for what seemed like all of her waking hours. In her demented state the past few years, she still watches TV all day, especially shows like Mayberry R.F.D. But I had the foolish notion that I could tackle a college-level science and math curriculum while watching my 20-30 hours of TV a week. It was my calculus class that taught me my lesson. I had a professor that was into memorizing definitions. I hate rote memorization, and burned out on brain teasers when I was about twelve. The calculus class was the one that all scientists and engineers take, and math is a subject that if you do not learn the level you are in, you won’t be able to do the next level. For instance, algebra is the arithmetic of calculus. If you can’t do algebra, you can’t do calculus. My second year of algebra in high school was a terrible one, where it was self-study. I don’t know how the school got away with that kind of class, but they did. But that was not my problem in calculus, not really. It was that I got off to a slow start, and did not catch up. For my first test, I got a B, I think. For my second, it was a C, and on my third, I got an F. An F. Mr. Math Wiz got an F. That was my sobering moment. That was when reality dawned on me. I knew something was wrong. At my college, I was at a stage in the class where I could drop it and take it the next semester, which I did. But that was the easy part. I realized that I could not cut the curriculum (although the chemistry I was taking at the same time was an effortless exercise for me) if I watched my 20-30 hours of TV per week, and I tried an experiment. I decided to give up TV for a month, and see what happened. After a month away from TV, I never went back.

When TV came into American living rooms in the 1940s, my father could not see the point and never watched it. My month-long TV fast was like taking a fish out of water, for it to understand what water was. After a month away from TV, I could not see myself wasting time in front of a TV set. Because the USA is a bunch of TV addicts, I would still see some to be social around family, friends, and roommates, but I just saw it as a price of being around those people. I never turned on the TV myself. TV is garbage, and insidious in ways that habitual TV watchers don’t understand. I went years without watching any TV, and would be disoriented after watching an hour of it. TV is the primary method of conditioning the minds of Americans.

When I took the calculus class again, it was probably the academic revelation of my life. I could not believe how easy the class was. The very same problems that stumped me the previous semester I did in minutes. I was back at the top of the class, and years later, could still work the hardest problems in differential calculus, to the amazement of students who came to me for help. Quitting TV helped.

Time to get on the bus.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
26th October 2012, 07:25
Hi:

In those college days, several things were happening. That shock of the first semester was over by my second semester, with me learning how to really study for the first time, the kind of study that it takes to master subject matter. I began to see my first real girlfriend that year, and we were together for two years. I was going deep in my mystical studies, with Seth and The Aquarian Gospel as my constant bedtime companions. I was the kind of naïve fool who bought thirty copies of The Aquarian Gospel and handed them to friends over the years. I almost never saw anybody’s eyes light up, except after I got into mediation groups, and I belonged to several over the years. It took me a while to realize that unless somebody had their mystical awakening, material like Seth’s and The Aquarian Gospel was just words on a page. I worked at a retirement home for three years, beginning in my senior year of high school, working in its restaurant. I was their star employee, and keeping the restaurant clean and running smoothly was my game (that is where I met my girlfriend). I saved money like Ebenezer Scrooge, making about $2.00 per hour.

I almost went to the Air Force Academy out of high school (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business ), going through my redneck rite of passage. But by age nineteen, I was a committed pacifist. It was the beginning of my second year of college, however, when I had my first existential crisis. Up until that time, I was some kind of Golden Boy, and I always assumed that I would go to college and go off to do great things. I had that dream of changing the energy industry, too (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse ), but what the heck I could do about it as a teenager, I had no idea. After acing the first year of college chemistry, then it was time to get serious. I signed up for physics, biology, the second semester of calculus, and organic chemistry. I had already spent two years in chemistry labs, and the lab professor for my organic chemistry class I also had the year before. He was a nice enough man, around sixty years old or so, but I clearly recall one day, watching him shuffle between laboratories in his white lab coat, with his slumping shoulders. He was a somewhat somber and pathetic figure, and as I watched him walk between the labs, I saw my future, and it was not pretty. I was beginning to realize that life in a chemistry lab might fall far short of my dreams of gallium oxide.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571595&viewfull=1#post571595

Until that time, I just assumed that I would become a chemist or work in a related profession, and to begin to understand what it entailed, and to get depressed by it, was a huge blow to my life’s sense of direction. What the heck was I doing with my life? Soon after that unpleasant realization, I began dropping my classes. In end, the biology class was all that I stayed in, and the professor of that lab openly disliked me, probably because I did not have the proper attitude, and aced his tests without even trying. I was anything but an eager beaver. At that time, all I knew was studying “important” stuff like math and science, or “loafing” and studying history, English, and the fluff classes (studying the mystical material was great, but certainly did not pay the bills). That was the extent of my horizons. I went through about a three-month period where I felt lost, seeking some kind of direction but never finding it.

As I will get too later, that first remote viewing in the Silva class (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571595&viewfull=1#post571595 ) was only the beginning of a long series of paranormal experiences and study that continues today. But at age nineteen, I had never really prayed before. I was blessedly raised relatively free of religious indoctrination, only attending Sunday school at my mother’s insistence for a few years before adolescence. One day it hit rock bottom for me. I was about to drop out of school and move to somewhere like Kansas to try to find myself, but that night I went to bed and prayed desperately for guidance, any guidance. I was out of ideas. The prayer was simple and direct, along the lines of, “I need help, and if anybody can hear my plea, I need guidance for what to do with my life.” I fell into a dreamless sleep. The first waking moment the next morning was unforgettable. As I lay there and opened my eyes, looking across the room from my bed, a voice in my head spoke up. It was the first time I ever prayed for guidance, and the first time that I heard that voice. It said, “Have you ever thought about studying business?” It was an alien thought. I did not know that you could study business, but I was instantly enthused by the suggestion. I called the college and asked if a curriculum for studying business existed. The college said that they sure did, and I could get an appointment with a counselor for the next week and explore my options.

That might sound like I was a rube from the sticks, but I had no idea that people could get degrees in studying business. One friend took a class in bookkeeping in high school, and I heard about accountants once a year around April 15th (the tax return filing deadline in the USA), but that was it. I knew about lawyers and doctors, but nobody I knew or knew of had a degree in business. It was something far outside of my reality. Even today in Ventura, I’ll bet there are not many MBAs. Well, the rest, as they say, is history. The next semester, I took Bookkeeping 101 and an introduction to business class. My mathematical mind ate up the bookkeeping, and I applied my mind to the study of business and capitalism. I also took Philosophy 101 that semester, and I wish I had saved some of the papers that I wrote, where I brought my scientific and mystical outlook to philosophy. I am sure that I would smile and shake my head at my youthful cogitations.

The next year, I took the first year of accounting, and it was a great, challenging class, taught by the best teacher that I ever had for any subject. His classes were challenging, but he was fair and had a high regard for his students that I rarely encountered. I became one of the best students that he ever had, and when I went off to the university the next year, I was head and shoulders above the university students, which my teacher had a lot to do with. I refer to that teacher as Mr. Professor in my writings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

There were several dynamics happening during those years. At the end of my second year of college, my mother left my father for a guy who was about my age, who I knew. He worked at the same bowling alley as my mother did. My parents had an extremely bitter divorce, and I was in the middle of it. My younger brother was put into the military as an alternative to prison, so was not around, and my youngest brother, the one with the mental impairment, became a kind of hot potato that neither parent was too excited about continuing to raise. I saw some very human sides of my parents in those days.

At the old folk’s restaurant, I rarely ate the food, being a “health nut” from age twelve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

and beginning a fasting regimen at age seventeen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bragg

I have poured countless thousands of cups of coffee, but have never drunk any in my life. I went years without drinking tap water, or eating anything with salt in it, and about a week before my parent’s divorced, I stopped eating all animal products, just to see what it was like. I was a vegan for eighteen months:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#vegan

I am sure that my choices were frustrating for my track coach. My freshman year was auspicious, as I became a fledgling track star. The field events coach thought that I was going to make the big time in the javelin. I had the talent for it, but the javelin is known as a “weight event,” meaning that big, burly men were the typical javelin throwers. I was kind of thin my freshman year, at 6 feet, one-inch, and about 155 pounds. When I went vegan, I lost fifteen pounds. I did not even try to get any protein, not really knowing what I was doing. But my body odor disappeared, and it was likely the healthiest that I ever was. It was also the only year when I could dunk a basketball. Because my hands are relatively small, I could not palm a basketball, but had to kind of curl it in my arm to get up to dunk, which meant that I had to get higher off the ground than the average dunker did. I was not a world-class jumper, but not bad. I long jumped about twenty feet, too, but that was not going to be competitive at the college level.

That lost semester also lost me my eligibility to be on the track team that year, but I was fine with that, to my coach’s frustration, because I knew I would be going to Ventura College for three years, to get the business curriculum going. I took 23 units one semester that third year, to catch up for that lost year and chase my girlfriend to the university. She was an agricultural major, and planned to go to UC Davis. I decided to go to nearby UC Berkeley, which had a reputable business school. Then she decided to go to Cal Poly at San Luis Obispo, and I followed her there, not even knowing if it had a business school. There the young fool was, once again, setting his course by chasing a woman. Similar to how I chased that girl into track and she was not even on the track team, when I moved to Cal Poly (I never saw the campus until I moved there), we were in the same dorm, and we were there only a week when she dumped me!

Again, somebody was looking out for me, because Cal Poly had a good business school. I went from being the science prodigy to the accounting prodigy, getting the highest test score on the national accounting exam in my university’s history. But the year before we moved off to the university, I had another sobering lesson.

I wrote about having the world record holder in my first collegiate track meet, and competing against the eventual world record holder in the javelin:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=573401&viewfull=1#post573401

I was not a world class thrower, but other world class throwers believed that I had the talent to become one. But a 140-pound vegan was not going to get there. However, after my freshman year, my coaches expected me to easily get the school record the next year. When I was ineligible and skinnier than my freshman year, I was not playing the game right. But I was on the team for the next year (as I am writing this, I now recall javelin nightmares, where I kept trying to make the team, but was ineligible because I was too old, and other reasons; I have had those nightmares even in recent years, even recent months), and the record was mine to take.

But along came a guy who joined the team; a Mexican-American man, and one of the nicest guys that I ever met in track. I was around more world-class track stars than I can get into right now, but people like Dwight Stones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Stones

world record discus throwers and the like were in my circles, and if I wanted to hang out with them, I could have. Oh, the swaggering that went on back then with my fellow track athletes. When I was in college, I saw a survey of track athletes, and they were asked a simple question: “If you could take a drug that would allow you to set the world record in five years, but you would be dead in ten years, would you take it?” More than half of those surveyed said yes. I could long go into that subject matter, but that is how crazy that milieu was, and I was around people who took steroids and god knows what else.

But this Mexican-American man was a year or two older than me, and he was just there for the fun of it. He coached a children’s team at a local school. He picked up the javelin, almost as a lark, and with my help he set the school record instead of me, just as I was on the brink of setting it. I figured for two years that the school record had my name on it, and the nicest guy around got it instead. What a blow to my ego. As I look back, I am sure it was that voice and its friends, putting me through their paces, humbling me, getting me ready for what was coming.

More to write, but not tonight.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
26th October 2012, 15:02
Hi all. I have only reached 10/24 in this week's posts and have 2 min left of Avalon time for this morning. Love everyone's pics! And appreciate all posts re heart and singing.

Sandy how kind of you to be thinking of us in your personal yard! I love your hearth and home response to us.

Wade the bus schedules are leaning in our favor this week! Catch up with the posts over the weekend...:)

Wade Frazier
26th October 2012, 15:29
Hi:

Not much time for a post this morning, but I will get to at least one good one this weekend. I hope to get through my personal experience posts soon, and get back to Rome. There is a method to my madness. Part of it is to show the human element of my journey, to help readers understand how my efforts ended up where they did, what the high road was like for me, and to make the picture clearer of why I think about the situation the way I do, and why I am trying to build a choir, not an army.

Nobody can really know until they are there, but people can apply their life’s experiences, especially if they stepped outside the mainstream, to mine and those of my fellow travelers, and get a sense of what it was like. Unfortunately, a great deal of what I experienced, and how it impacted me, I cannot talk about publicly in order to protect people, both the innocent and the guilty. More people will have to die before certain subjects can be broached, but I can get enough out there to help those seeking experiences in these realms to attain some kind of understanding of what walking those roads is like.

If people sincerely seek the experience, they will get it, in one way or another, but their motivation is all important. On the FE path, there are innumerable pitfalls, which generally revolve around the ego and personal experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

The FE path is no place for the ego and can be life-threatening to newbies, and those of us who walked the path, even out of the noblest of intentions, got humbled. But it is never really over for those of us who were bitten by the dream of a healed planet and humanity. Shortened lives, bankruptcies, prison stints, wrecked careers, friendships, and family relationships – those are the fates of anybody who ever walked the FE path very far. The “lucky” ones took the money and were never heard from again on these matters:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

But selling your soul does not work out too well in the end. That is a lottery that only fools want to win.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th October 2012, 05:29
Hi:

While I was playing jock and other roles, I continued doing the remote viewing exercises that initiated my mystical awakening:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571595&highlight=isaac#post571595

As I stated, I often did it empathically, feeling what the subject felt. A childhood friend took Silva after I did, and we worked cases together. I once read an old relative of his. As I read the case, I suddenly hunched over, with my shoulders thrust forward and my back thrust out, and it became accentuated when I breathed. It was an awkward feeling, and I just thought it was something strange. Afterward, I asked if he noticed that strange hunching over that I got when I was reading that case. He said that it was very noticeable, and that his relative was hunched over in just that way. That kind of phenomenon is common, and many other variations. Something was communicating with my mind. Some might argue that I was somehow reading my friend’s mind, but there are too many instances in situations like that where the psychic would sense things that the other person was not aware of in the case, but it was confirmed later. You really can’t pursue that kind of stuff for very long before “hits” like those mount, both with you doing the reading, or where others read your cases. Spoons bend, auras are read, and so on. Doors open that can never close again. It becomes evident that everybody has psychic ability. A Silva class trains people to develop their inherent abilities. There is really nothing magical about it, but the implications are huge, to put it mildly. Some people are more talented than others, just like some can run better than others, sew better than others, and so forth. The older the soul, the more interest and talent in those areas, I think, because older souls are on the inward journey, and younger souls are on the outward journey.

Silva’s “Edgar Cayce” method is designed for sending healing energy to the case, as well as demonstrating to people their inherent abilities. Before long, I was trying my hand at healing. I know some immensely gifted healers. I think that my first “case” of somebody I knew who was deathly ill was my first girlfriend’s mother. She died while we were together. In fact, she died the same weekend that that rival javelin thrower broke the school record that I thought was mine for the taking. In the Silva teachings, it is taught that when the healing energy is sent to cases where the subject is near death, the subject may not use that energy to get better, but to help move out of physical reality, and it will happen within 72 hours. In my early years of doing that, four people died within 72 hours of my working on them, and the last time was that girl with leukemia that I have written about:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=194267&highlight=leukemia#post194267

and she died about 70 hours after that first intense experience with her. I stopped doing it after that – it was a bit draining for me, especially when it was a young girl. I only did it when somebody close to me needed it, in emergency situations. It works.

It is too bad that the Silva class is a shadow of its former self. It still was the best introductory course that I know of. After college, when I started my career in the hell of LA:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=319133&viewfull=1#post319133

I joined meditation groups, some led by the LA Silva instructor, who has been my close friend ever since. I mummified fruit with my college roommate:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=496281&highlight=mummify#post496281

I carefully picked the subject and control fruits. We did a tomato, and I did a strawberry on my own. How we did it was put the control and test tomatoes in glasses of water, and we held the test glass between us and projected energy into the test tomato (we did it for a few minutes). The control tomato was a rotten mess in two weeks, while the test tomato slowly mummified. I think that it sat there for two months, and I am not sure if it ever really rotted. With the strawberry, the control turned into a puddle in one day, while the other one mummified and lasted about eight days. The differences were so dramatic that there was no way that chance could account for it. Brian O was able to reproduce the effect using crystal energy with Marcel Vogel.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=545477&viewfull=1#post545477

We all still need to eat, which comes from solar energy, but that psychic energy stuff is amazing, and points toward ideas that expanded my notion of the possible about a million-fold. I think that we were tapping, however modestly, the zero-point field, which is partly why I say that the source is likely divine in nature. Level 19s have it down:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

but for the rest of us, tapping the ZPF to obtain practical energy will happen via technology, at least at first.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
27th October 2012, 16:34
I think you did an excellent link here, Wade, between ZPF which is part of our existance and can be reached through our vortex points and chakras and the technology that is based on it. psychic energy happens when our human body manage to connect to other levels of reality. with our entrapped consiousness and the current conditions here on planet earth, it is kind of difficult and a little restrictive to do that. but nothing lasts forever.

Wade Frazier
27th October 2012, 17:02
Hi Limor:

Thanks, yes, bridging that is not easy and can be pretty subtle. For instance, when I say that love is the answer, or that love is the Creator’s energy, or that only people with their hearts in the right place are fit for trying to bring FE to the world, or that in a world of scarcity, personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, or how FE can catalyze abundance and a healed planet, I am not stating unconnected ideas or unconnected realities.

To think that love is some kind of mushy feeling, best left to the romantics, is to entirely miss the point. We are here, IMO, to learn about love, and it ain’t an easy class, not by any means. Love is the energy of creation, and in very practical ways, if our hearts are not aligned with love, we are not going to get to FE on the technology front, much less reach Level 19. Only love will be able to pierce the darkness. We are also supposedly sentient beings, and we can manipulate our environments like no other animal on Earth can, and we are in danger of making this planet uninhabitable by complex life forms. We can also completely turn it around and turn Earth into a paradise for every living thing. But it will not manifest via soft-headed New Age mush:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

the self-flagellation of the environmentalists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

the Young Warrior delusions of “getting the bad guys”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

The selectively blind and victim-oriented perspectives and actions of the structuralists and the conspiracists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

the tinkerer route, the capitalist route, the sneak-past-Godzilla route, the stampede of self-interest route, and on and on.

The sentient singer route, where the singers sing from the heart, is what I am trying to mount, but that is anything but easy, either, but Bill, Ilie and gang have provided me a platform where I can at least explore the possibility, and I am concluding that it might just have a chance, although to a rational observer, that may seem like a ridiculous notion. I have been a part of overcoming greater odds, and I know that there is more than meets the eye, so I keep walking the path in front of me, and seeing where it might lead.

More later, but I have to run.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
27th October 2012, 17:27
It's interesting this "love" word :). Luckily in Romanian we have two words with similar meaning that differentiate slightly between romantic love and other kinds of love.

I suspect that most have gone through the process of learning about love, then "experiencing" love, then learning their love was not actually "true" love and going back and forth at this deepening their understanding...

I have strong hunch that I did not experience yet the "love" that is the solution that Wade is talking about, but the good news is that it seems I might get it soon :biggrin: (or at least I am learning what love is not.. if that makes any sense).

Wade Frazier
27th October 2012, 18:31
Ah Ilie, you are stealing my thunder! :) The Greeks called those two “loves” Eros and Agape:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

The tension between those two is as old as humanity and even older. I love my wife, and I love my wife. As we get old, the Eros can tend to dim (as it is related to procreation, after all), but the Agape can flourish. My sun rises and sets on my wife, and it may have helped that she is a babe. :)

There are song lyrics like “Looking for love in all the wrong places,” as people struggle to find love in lust, and so on. But even in the New Testament (or was it The Aquarian Gospel, or was it some of the apocrypha?), Jesus kissed Mary Magdalene on the lips, and his disciples asked why he did not kiss his disciples that way, and Jesus responded with something like, “You guys just don’t get it, do you?” :)

I was planning to write a post this weekend that presented some of the wild events that happened close to me in my early days, where the Bacchanalia of Rome reincarnated. Love was really not to be found there, but many Earthly delights could be. The debauchery sometimes got pretty extreme during the 1970s, as women were liberated and had birth control, and the twin scourges of herpes and AIDS had yet to make their appearance. Some of the stuff I was around simply could not happen today, I would imagine.

Love,

Wade

Limor Wolf
27th October 2012, 19:36
Ilie, what you say makes sense, but I safely assume that you indeed experienced this inner feeling of a greate expansion of the heart, it might have been when watching a leaf, breathing the air of the mountain, having an intimate moment of shared understanding with another person, having a good hearty laugh, looking at people on the street or on the bus and wishing them well. looking at the people of the planet and wishing them well...
I also believe that the feeling of 'Catharsis' has certain amount of love in it.

All those moments contains love. personally, I know I need to learn a little more about love myself (unless the meaning of 'caring' and 'love' is somehow related) , but mostly about unconditional love, and that is no less of a challenge than Wade's ' patience' lesson :)

Wade, I believe I know what you mean when saying that things are pretty subtle. One of the most important tools any one should have when traveling this 'fascinating earth path and era', is differentiating the Subtleties, the very very almost imperceptible difference, like mesuring milligrams on the scales, or as if something can be a millimeter close to the truth but not quite right, and it requires a good level of ability to distinct between those two.

Many fall on this, even if they are on the path to enlightement.

Since Ilie mentioned the two words for 'love' in Romanian (by the way, how does it sound? can you please share? : ) and Wade is differentiating between 'Eros' and 'Agape', I hope it is o.k to chime in with the Hebrew biblical meaning of the word ' to know'. in short, you can get to know a lady, but if you 'knew' her in the biblical meaning, it means you were a very happy guy :)

Talk about Subtleties ;-)

Wade Frazier
27th October 2012, 19:54
Hi Limor:

I don’t see much difference between love (Agape-style) and caring, especially caring for others. The Ra Material looks at the evolution of our souls as hinged on the tension of the choice between caring for ourselves and caring for others:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#ra

and I’ll buy that.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
27th October 2012, 20:13
Thanks Wade, This makes me very happy to hear you say that, Since I quite often reflect about it. To be honest, I wanted to present this question for you, but I didn't. Now you answered me anyway. A mind reader ?

I am familiar with the Ra material and the 'harvest' idea specifically, I would rather think about it some more, Before I will come to the final -cut conclusions. I think that 'caring' (to others) and 'love' are from the same family, but simply maybe on a different level, 'love' (especially unconditional) might be the final growth before the harvest. Thanks!

Wade Frazier
27th October 2012, 20:26
Hi Limor:

If you want to say that Agape is an amplified version of “caring,” I can get on board with that.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
27th October 2012, 20:28
It might be the ' END ' of the movie.

sandy
27th October 2012, 21:16
I often ponder about the meaning of Love and Unconditional Love as it is the latter I believe that measures the integrity of one's being.

Sometimes in loving self and others, one must do so, even at the expense of the loathing of others. It is not easy to be hated for loving but this action does build the unconditional love of self for it is self that knows the intention comes from LOVE.

So much for keeping it simple sweetheart:) K.I.S.S

mosquito
28th October 2012, 06:31
.... (or at least I am learning what love is not.. if that makes any sense).

It makes perfect sense Ilie ;)

It's so easy to get entangled in the linguistic farce of the word "love". It's just plain ridiculous that in English we only have the one word, but not really much improved in French where "love" and "like" are synonymous, nor Spanish, where "want" can have the same meaning.

I think that what Wade is talking about is exactly as Limor said, the feeling you get in your heart which defies all explanation and cannot be quantified in any way. For me over the past few years, the purest form of love I've felt is for children, and even that is subtly different to the "love" which encompasses all of creation. We need to wake up to the fact that WE ARE creation, and are in no way separable from it (linguistic self-sodomy again; "it" being 3rd person and therefore not "I") and we can only really do this through experience, not through analysis or logic. What works for me is: caring for children, being in nature, doing Qi Gong, anything which gets me out of "me ! me !" mode.

Maintaining that sense of all-encompassing "love" in the face of overwhelming greed and wanton destruction of our environment is a little challenging at times.

Thanks to everyone here ;)

Wade Frazier
28th October 2012, 17:57
Hi All:

Oh, yes, the words. What a poor method of communicating. Seth said that we developed language when we lost our telepathic abilities. I have used the word “love” plenty in my life, and it can really be something when people get all cerebral and ask what I mean, when I can see them firmly in the grip of fear. IMO, we are here to learn about love, and very few have mastered the lesson. Love and fear are mutually exclusive it seems, and the reason why personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity is because of fear:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

A channel once said that all fears were rooted in not feeling in control of what happens to our bodies, and I’ll buy that. Physical reality is one hell of a test. As Sandy says, we can choose to love, and that choice is what made this civilization what it was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

The single greatest reason why we do not feel in control of what happens to our bodies is economic scarcity. This is another way that FE and love are joined at the hip. FE is about making love practical, and in both obvious and subtle ways, we are not going to tap FE unless our hearts are in the right place. I honor the nuts-and-bolts aspect of it but, in the end, the advent of FE and abundance is about learning to think and act like creators, and they always do it with love. In my previous post, I made the connection between the mystical energy and nuts-and-bolts FE. I believe it is the same thing, and I believe that its source is divine. People can argue that everything is divine, but discernment is called for here.

When I write that my fellow travelers were a bunch of over-grown Boy Scouts, what I am really saying about them is that they lived by their hearts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

and living by your heart in a world of scarcity and fear is not only highly unusual (the needle-in-a-haystack level), but it is anything but easy. And yes, Sandy, following my heart and that voice in my head wrecked my life and many relationships. People like Ralph were guilty of projecting their pure hearts on others, thinking that others thought like they did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#heart

I know the feeling all too well. It is like FE. The reason why almost everybody is in denial of FE is due to fear, and if you look deeply at the levels past denial of FE, those levels 4 to 11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level4

they are all rooted in fear or inexperience. I am getting ahead of myself, but when I started being attacked by my investors, soon after I raised the money, the woman leading the charge was a woman that I once considered marrying:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=327642&viewfull=1#post327642

I was amazed at first. I wanted to say, “Hey! This is me, Wade. You know that I always do the right thing. How can you think that I am criminally motivated?” Before it was over, I was accused of criminal motivation by both of my parents, the very people who raised me to be a Golden Boy. If my own parents could not understand, how could anybody else? They were all blinded by fear. There was compensation, however, and the friends who stood by me are like gold nuggets to me today. Mr. Professor’s and my refusal to abandon Dennis, when everybody around us turned into cowards and thieves, led to our greatest hour, but it ended up costing us, dearly. Those events wrecked Mr. Professor’s life and led to an early death:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

I was young enough to survive the experience, is about all that I can say. I likely won’t get another post done this weekend, alas. Too much on my plate at the moment.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
28th October 2012, 19:29
On some evenings when my children are put to sleep i ponder on the day that has already passed. I replay the moments of our mutual misunderstanging (if any). In this moments i see our whole planet, inhabitated by 7 bilions of "spoiled brats" and i understand in that moment what Unconditional Love our Creator has to have to his children not to wipe us from the surface of the Earth in the blink of an eye. Instead, despite our ungratefulness, He/She just keeps on providing for our needs and caring for us. In this moments i too can clearly see that Love is something we all came here to learn... We better start learning... ASAP :)

I Love Us All Very Much :o

Wade Frazier
28th October 2012, 20:12
Hi:

Thanks Robert. I have a stray minute before I go off to the office. The human ego is like a child going through the “terrible twosies.” The limbic system, the seat of the emotions, is no more evolved in humans than it is for the other great apes. Some channels have said that we are ego-bound, with the ego placed in a job that it is not fit for. They say that the ego’s primary purpose is to simply focus the soul in physical reality.

Those ideas are certainly debatable, but when I discovered that people are addicted to scarcity, or perhaps more accurately, they were addicted to the scarcity-based ideologies that fed them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

in all instances, it was a fearful ego that could only see loss with the advent of abundance. It was nothing short of incredible to put the ideas in front of people, to watch them look everywhere they could but at the issue, flying off onto all sorts of irrational tangents. Scientists actually might be the worst offenders:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive

That was behind Brian O openly wondering if we were a sentient species, after playing the Paul Revere of FE for several years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

It is like the deeply irrational thinking that dominates the “skeptics”:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=572814&highlight=mcluhan#post572814

and the scientific community letting the scientific equivalent of Rush Limbaugh speak for them on matters beyond orthodox theory. Mastering the emotions is one the late tasks on the soul’s journey in physical reality, if the Michael material is to be believed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

and I’ll buy it. Late Mature is the most emotionally challenging soul age, and I finished it only a relative few lifetimes ago, if Joya’s reading was accurate (and it likely was – she had many improbable “hits,” including future events):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

and being emotionally-centered in this lifetime has been a “joy.” :)

Off to chores.

Best,

Wade

P.S. I just saw that there are 70 guests on this thread right now, which is a record, by far. It must be some group. This thread will hit 250K views in the next week. Who would have thought? It gets about the same number of visitors as my site does.

Chris Gilbert
28th October 2012, 23:23
Part of the fear people have when it comes to letting go of their ideologies and assumptions relates to all the mental and emotional energy they've poured into said thoughts over time. It's easier for most to accept being miserable so long as they're "right", smart, etc. The thought of having been wrong all along is too threatening to their sense of self. Finding a sense of identity that does not depend on attachment to mental ideology and abstract theories will be needed for many to move forward in that regard. It could be thought of as attaining an inner abundance that will allow an outer abundance to manifest.

Wade Frazier
29th October 2012, 01:55
Hi Enishi:

Yes indeed, that desire to be “right” is also part of our conditioning, and we are fed that perspective almost in our cradles. I think that once the scarcity paradigm is popped, rigid adherence to ideologies will largely disappear, because adhering to them does not help us get fed. :) The popular ideas of right and wrong will likely diminish and even disappear. People will stop settling for lies and half-truths because they feed them. But how to get there? That is the hard part. More than 99% of humanity today slumbers in the ideological beds that they were fed and further reinforced for themselves, and they are not going to wake up until a concrete reality is demonstrated to them. Machiavelli was right on this score:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

It took many years and many attempts to attempt to connect with the public, in Level 10 ways:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

to see how truly in thrall people’s awareness was to the ideology(ies) of their choice. I have likened it to even imagining the reality and potential of FE is like traveling to a distant star system. The vast majority never even leave Earth orbit or even realize that they are Earth-bound and space flight is even possible. And for the few who get off the ground, virtually none can escape Earth’s gravity. And for the few who do, they almost invariably get trapped in the orbit of a celestial body. For some, they end up in a solar orbit. For others, the gravity well of Jupiter traps them. For others, they get lost in the Oort Cloud, or are seduced by the attractions of the quasars and other galactic spectacles.

Today, almost everybody in the FE field has inventor-itis, thinking that laboratory tinkering and raising money will get us over the top. None of them have ever put disruptive energy technology on the market, in a way that can be disruptive. Dennis is still the only person on Earth that I know of who has, and when I see inventors and their allies think that they can sneak right past Godzilla or the lower level predators, or pretend that Godzilla does not exist, that is the equivalent to getting trapped in solar orbit.

If we had to wait for everybody to do the work and wake up before FE was a material public reality, we would likely have to go extinct a few times as a species before the souls began to figure it out. I doubt that we have the time to do that, and I don’t relish living through a complete collapse of global civilization, and we are on the brink of that in more than one way.

I really do not expect anybody to learn the lessons that I did, nor do I encourage people to try, unless they want to throw their lives away on the learning experience, and survive it if they are lucky. That is why I came up with this choir idea. Virtually nobody can even imagine abundance today. And if they even glimpse it, they quickly want to go “do something,” and they all go chasing headlong into inventor-itis, raising money, trying to start a stampede, and so on. Been there, done that, so I am trying something different. I am also doing this in way that does not ask the participants to risk their lives, although I constantly see newbies go chasing after the Killer Bunny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg ), no matter how I try to dissuade them.

If several thousand people could let go of their scarcity-based ideologies long enough to just imagine abundance, it might be enough to catalyze the shift and bring FE into a public reality. That is my game, and we will see how it goes. Learning how to sing the abundance tune is anything but easy, and those close to you will usually rather see you strung up than sing it with you. Singing is far different than the braying of the herd, and the herd sees it as a great threat, because the singing is about ending the world as we know it, and all that the masses can see is the loss of the familiar, even if what is familiar is hellish. You really have to experience it, quite a few times, before the entrenched nature of their awareness can really be understood. My fellow travelers spent many years beating their heads against those walls, and I am trying to do something different.

When Joe Average can see and touch an FE device, especially when one is delivered to his home, then he will begin to wake up, and not before then, I am sorry to say. In the wake of 9/11, it became obvious that anybody thinking that Americans, for instance, will be able to shed their nationalistic indoctrination (which is crippling to gaining an understanding of how the world really works), is living in a fool’s paradise. Ben Franklin said that those who abdicate freedom for security deserve neither, and will likely get neither. The same goes for sentience. Self-serving ideologies such as American nationalism become more deeply entrenched in times of fear, as people readily abdicate their sentience for the promise of security. That is one reason why you see very few Americans contributing to this thread, and if I did it in a truly public, all-comers forum, the trolls would come running (some of whom are professionals (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll ), and the masses support their activities.

As a brief P.S. to my human journey posts, my environmental narrative is open to challenge, and it is currently in vogue to deny that we have any real environmental problems, especially human-created ones, as a reaction to the “environmentalism” that hails from the imperial nations, where the rich nations tell the poor nations how to do it, and even dictate it.

I see the situation as similar to Global Warming. Just because Global Warming has become a political football does not make Global Warming a myth. I agree that “imperial environmentalism” is self-serving on the part of the imperialists, but that does not mean that deforestation and plow agriculture are not catastrophic for the soils, and there is substantial evidence that killing off the hydrological cycle that the forests create and maintain desiccates the land. Over in the so-called “Fertile Crescent,” there are literally hundreds of ancient cities that not only were abandoned because the surrounding land could no longer support crops (all the topsoil was eroded away, and the ruins look like moonscapes), but many of them are buried under silt (which was life-giving soil, before deforestation, plow agriculture, and “progress” displaced it). The ruins of the once seaside city of Ur are more than a hundred miles inland:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554340&viewfull=1#post554340

buried by the silt of deforestation and plow agriculture. The USA’s Great Plains have already lost half of their topsoil. In another hundred thousand years, the next glaciation will make more of that kind of soil, if we have not already mucked up the cycle irreparably. A critical part of my message is that, with free energy and related technologies, dominating and wrecking environments for human benefit would become a relic of history, like slavery.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th October 2012, 05:54
Hi:

Briefly, I have referred to guy’s blog before, and he promotes the Peak Oiler arguments, and here is one of the latest:

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct12/oil-abundant-costly10-12.html

Again, the Peak Oilers understand that energy runs the economy and always has. That is to their credit (interesting to see them also call tar sands and shale oil, “the dregs,” as I have been). Their arguments and evidence are very worth digesting. The Peak Oilers, however, are completely blind to FE, and I have found it to be a willful blindness, such as with Heinberg:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg

and, boy, is it a small world in this stuff. Heinberg was Velikovsky’s personal assistant, and I just finished reading the latest from Velikovskian apostate Leroy Ellenberger as I began this little post. Peak Oil, FE, Velikovsky, and the fringes. They are strangely related.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th October 2012, 14:27
Hi:

I have only a few minutes before I have to run off to a long day at work. I will likely be fairly quiet for the next two weeks, with work stuff, including travel. So far, I have avoided posting on the road. Next year, as I get that essay written and other activities, including getting some of my life list items checked off, I will likely be taking a couple of months off from posting, as I will be on the road, both in the USA and in Europe. But that is all a long way off.

I’ll get those life’s experiences posts done, and then get back to Rome. But that is all kind of a warm-up for what happened with the rise of Europe and industrialization. I have already written very extensively about a lot of it on my site, but not quite in the energy-centric way that I plan to. The early days of industrialization are interesting in that coal power was actually given a run for its money by water and wind power, which preceded the use of coal and through innovations stayed competitive with coal in the early days of industrialization. But wind power (sailing ships, mostly) was intermittent, the wind could blow from the wrong way, making travel harder, and in the end, coal-power steamships did not have to rely on the wind, and ended up hauling far greater payloads, and could meet the schedules of an industrializing world.

Similarly, water power is what ran the early mills of Great Britain and the colonies that became the USA. The rivers on the Eastern seaboard all had mills put on them, which ran early industry. As coal was discovered and mined, coal power eventually displaced water power, but as with wind, it was not an immediate victory for coal. But in the end, coal power was not geographically dependent, especially as the railroads got built, and as those deforesting “settlers” engaged in history’s most spectacular deforestation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#extinct

they used coal to power their new civilization. During the middle of that frenzy, the power of oil was tapped, and electricity was discovered and used, which further transformed industrial civilization. That is some of the territory that I plan to cover in the coming month or two, to complete this series of posts. It is an energy tale above all else. In some ways, it is fascinating, in others, depressing. But there is potential in the story, potential that FE can unleash like nothing else can. You have all seen me cover some of the highlights before:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

but I am going to go pretty deeply into it before I am finished.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
31st October 2012, 15:44
Hi:

Sorry, but my day job is a little too demanding right now, and it will be this way through the end of next week. Then I expect to have something approaching normal for the rest of the year. I am pretty excited about next year, where I will be able to devote about half of the year to writing. I am regularly asked if I will make a book out of any of my writings, and the answer is no. I will only publish my work on the Internet, for free. Anything else can become the devil’s flypaper in this field. The energy essay, however, will be book length, and I will do some user-friendly things such as provide that essay in .pdf style, also, so people can print it if they want. I will have given up about a million dollars of lost income to do my research and writing, so it can be called a life project, which came after I got my clock cleaned while pursuing FE. I suppose it can be called a sacrifice, but I don’t really see it that way. I asked for it, and I have no regrets, but there are only so many hours in a day and years in a life. I am getting old, I gave up “frills” such as owning my own home, having a family, and I lost many friendships and family relationships along the way, while watching my fellow travelers go through hell, have shortened lives and the like. Nothing about the path has been easy, but I probably did about ten lifetimes of learning in it, and it is possible that it will help humanity turn the corner. When I was younger, I hoped that my efforts will not have been in vain, and I still hope that, but in the end, all we take with us is our consciousness, and I suppose that that has really been the journey of my life – to develop it.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
31st October 2012, 16:02
I am getting old, I gave up “frills” such as owning my own home, having a family, and I lost many friendships and family relationships along the way, while watching my fellow travelers go through hell, have shortened lives and the like. Nothing about the path has been easy, but I probably did about ten lifetimes of learning in it, and it is possible that it will help humanity turn the corner. When I was younger, I hoped that my efforts will not have been in vain, and I still hope that, but in the end, all we take with us is our consciousness, and I suppose that that has really been the journey of my life – to develop it.


Chin up Wade. It's the bottom of the 9th, tie game, and you're on deck.

Tane Mahuta
31st October 2012, 22:44
Hi Wade, any idea when your "Energy Essay" will be finished?...

Will make interesting reading as to F/E.

Thankyou for the awesome thread...

TM

Melinda
31st October 2012, 23:55
I love to picture a world where an abundance of free energy makes a cleaner, brighter, safer and more compassionate home for everyone. Truly, and wholly, a healed planet. Thanks to this thread I’ve found a place where others are sharing in that vision, with their generous hearts and applied minds.

Very much looking forward to that essay. Already it’s sewing the seeds for a more harmonious world, even while it’s only in its growing stages.

Wishing you good things sir, to complete your work.

CdnSirian
1st November 2012, 01:45
I feel a deep appreciation for your writings, Wade, and warmest regards :wave:to all who contribute to this thread, every time I read here.

Wade Frazier
1st November 2012, 05:21
Hi Fred.

Ah, the pressure when I was in the game with Dennis was infinitely greater. Not saying that this is easy, but I am no longer in the trenches. Playing at choir-building, not army-building – a different game. Seen enough FE blood and guts for one lifetime. Dennis is still taking his swings. :)

Hi Tane:

If I had to guess, it will be about a year from now. I plan to continue to sketch its outline on this thread for a couple of months, and this process is actually good for me, helping to organize the thrust of what is coming, and letting me know where I need to do a little more work. The final product is going to be pretty polished, putting my best foot forward, so to speak.

Hi Melinda:

We will see how this goes.

Hi CdnSirian:

Glad you hung around.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
1st November 2012, 13:27
Hi Fred.

Ah, the pressure when I was in the game with Dennis was infinitely greater. Not saying that this is easy, but I am no longer in the trenches. Playing at choir-building, not army-building – a different game. Seen enough FE blood and guts for one lifetime. Dennis is still taking his swings. :)


Hi back at ya Wade. Just in case I wasn't clear, I didn't mean physically going to bat. I haven't been in the trenches like you, atleast in this lifetime, but I have been at this long enough to know that any true change comes from within, not from without. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif The choir is already rehearsing, you haven't noticed the occassional stops and starts, and off notes?(LOL)

Cheers,
Fred

Wade Frazier
1st November 2012, 13:56
Hi Fred:

I have a few minutes before I go catch the bus. I replied to this thread a minute ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=577606&viewfull=1#post577606

There is a dance between the inner and outer worlds when we play the physical reality game. All that we take with us when we leave is our consciousness, but it develops by what we do in this physical world. The materialists, those Young Souls, think that this is all there is, in their youthful folly, and their developmental stage is when they rack up the biggest negative karma and can blow up their planet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age3

One channel once said that virtually all the spiritual development that souls get by coming here is by just taking care of the physical body. Physical reality provides challenges and lessons that can’t be had anyplace else. Inner work has its place, but living one’s inner knowing on the stage of physical reality is the big test. Lots of people live in caves, trees, and the like, doing the inner work, but that is the easy part. Living it in the world is the hard part. :) The outer affects the inner, and the inner the outer. Seth once said that you can grow either way. My ultimate goal is impacting our physical reality in a positive way. Then it will be easier to do the inner work. A “master” may scoff at that, but I am also free to scoff at cave-dwelling “masters.” I have been asked to help heal somebody’s brain who had a traumatic injury, and I will begin that work tonight. It is inner work that manifests in physical reality, somebody’s brain this time. I will make clear the connection between the inner and outer world, never more clear than when working with the brain. Healing work uses both.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
1st November 2012, 16:09
Originally posted by Wade Frazier : Lots of people live in caves, trees, and the like, doing the inner work, but that is the easy part. Living it in the world is the hard part. The outer affects the inner, and the inner the outer

That sentence gave me a new insight, or maybe strengthened what I already suspected as someone who until a couple of years ago used to live mainly in my inner world (cave) : it goes both ways.

If there is anything possible to do in order to support this person's brain injury and help your healing , Wade, please vocal it out, there is nothing like a concentrated effort. I am sure everyone reading this feels the same. in the mean time, I can vision the cells of the brain and the tissues fuse into healthy brain cells. the brain seems to be working as a hologram, the body functions are located in certain known places, but memories and consciousness seems to be scattered all over the place, if indeed consciousness lays there. I read in Michael Talbot's 'The Holographic Universe', that the brain has an unusual feature and it does not suffer from pain, It is possible to make a surgery on a person's brain while he is awake (the skull and scalp is anesthetized) without causing any pain. The brain is a fascinating organ.

Wade, you were requested to assist with the healing, I hope my question will not sound insensitive in any way, since I do wish with all my heart that this person will heal and will regain his/her health and balance, but what if someone's soul has other plans? what if there is a specific path that someone needs to follow and this injury has a reason?

In this instance, I will pray for the greater good and the most perfect path that this soul needs, sometimes hidden from our eyes. I remember what you wrote about this issue and about former healings that you were able to help with, including the girl with the cancer. in any way and with any outcome it must help and hasten the situation to go in the right direction. my prayers are for smooth recovery at this time.


Blessings,

Limor

Melinda
1st November 2012, 20:22
...If there is anything possible to do in order to support this person's brain injury and help your healing , Wade, please vocal it out, there is nothing like a concentrated effort. I am sure everyone reading this feels the same...

What a thoughtful post Limor. Thank you for making my day a better one.

sandy
2nd November 2012, 02:39
Best wishes for the Healing and for the Healer :)

Wade Frazier
2nd November 2012, 05:19
Hi:

Thanks for the kind thoughts, all. With Sandy sending her wishes, the healing is assured. :) That is a big subject that you bring up, Limor, and I have a few ways to describe some of what you are alluding to. I am going from memory, but I think in The Aquarian Gospel version of Jesus healing the lepers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_ten_lepers

Jesus not only said that the man who gave thanks was healed by his own “faith,” but that he would stay well, while the other nine would get the disease again. Disease has its purpose. When I worked on that girl with leukemia:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=194267&viewfull=1#post194267

that was my last death-bed “healing.” I felt so badly after she died. Her mother later told me that the healing efforts were actually a great success. The next three days were blessedly peaceful for that girl, and her hospital room was transformed from a place of fear into a place of love and peace. I am teary as I think back to her death. She apparently reincarnated back into her mother’s life a few years later via a relative. Her mother really did not believe in reincarnation, but some mystics told her that the daughter came back, and her mother became convinced by evidence that mounted. Maybe the girl had unfinished business. One way to look at that situation is that the daughter took that healing energy and made an easy exit, because she was going, no matter what anybody did. Her soul had other plans.

Even in Western medicine, it is acknowledged that a big part of healing is the desire to be healed. Nobody can be healed against their wishes, and when it is time to check out, nothing can keep us here. But the soul has plans that the personality is not aware of, and no healer worthy of the moniker is foolish enough to force the issue, and only offers the healing energy to be used to the highest and best benefit of the recipient.

The first night of healing work in this current stint went well, and it will continue for a while. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

P.S. Eaglespirit is back! :)

Wade Frazier
2nd November 2012, 15:35
Hi:

Back to personal experiences, and then back to Rome. After that voice suggested that I study business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

I threw myself into studying business and capitalism. During my last year at the junior college in Ventura, I was a janitor cleaning lawyer, accountant and investment advisor offices. As I took out the trash, I read The Wall Street Journal, I began to play the market at age twenty, and I was a wild man, shorting casino stocks, buying options, and I nearly gave my broker a heart attack by trying to buy a copper futures contract. The deals that he talked me out of would have been big winners, and I think that the gambling gods will not let me make money that way. I broke even with all of my gyrations.

I was at the top of my classes studying business, and got the record test score on the national accounting exam at my university, but in my last year of college I burned out on academia. The hardest classes were my favorites, but I had several classes that were not intellectually challenging, but the instructors turned the classes into drudgery or memorization or some similar task, to make the classes seem formidable. By the time I graduated, I was eager to be done with college and get into the real world.

But I was also done with Southern California. I was introduced to hiking in the mountains, the Swiss Alps and the Cascades, as a teenager:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm#matterhorn

and was hooked. I still am.

The only area of accounting that I did not like was income taxes, and I was determined to never do income taxes. But whoever was guiding me had plenty in store on my path, and one of them was the issue of working in the real world. I got out of college right in the teeth of the worst recession in forty years, in 1981-1982. While the LA accounting firms, the big prestigious ones, rolled out the red carpet for me, the last place on Earth that I wanted to work was in LA. I was determined to go home to Seattle, but accounting jobs were scarce. I decided to take lifestyle over career and moved to Seattle, determined to find work, and I found it as an accountant at a small CPA firm. It is still one of the most brutal jobs that I ever had. And I am sure that the voice in my head had something to do with it – all I did for my first post-collegiate stint was income tax returns. I hated that there was an entire profession dedicated to determining a person’s tax liability to the state, and there I was, a part of it. And they just threw me right into it, doing tax returns on my second day on the job. About the second week, I got a headache that lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed. I had it for the rest of my tenure at that job, which was about three months. I thought that it might have been due to the climate change of moving from California to Seattle in the winter, but I now know that it was my first stress incident, and far from my last.

They laid me off soon after April 15th, and I crawled back to LA, defeated. I have written about my LA days on this thread, so will not belabor them:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

but they were my welcome to the real world, as I worked in a hellish environment. But I want to back up a little to my back injury. I was a multi-sport athlete with the world-class throwing arm, but I really did not fit the jock mold very well. I was around plenty of world-class athletes, some became world-record holders, some became professionals, and I saw their swagger and single-minded devotion to their craft. You had to eat, drink, and sleep your event if you wanted to be a world-class track athlete. I had too much going on in my life to do that, so I was more of a dabbler than I was a dedicated athlete. I was also the only student I knew who did not get help from my parents. I paid for all of my college expenses, although I lived in a Golden Age, getting an essentially free college education, before Ronald Reagan and friends began dismantling the California social system. When I went to school, California ranked first of the fifty states in spending per capita on schools. Today it ranks last, but it has a great prison system! :)

But while I was working, getting straight A’s and “dabbling” in athletics, my friends were playing another game that I was not familiar with. The 1970s in Southern California became legendary for its debauchery. While I was studying The Aquarian Gospel and Seth, my friends and associates were burning through women like there was no tomorrow.

Some of my closest high school friends went to UCLA, and I visited them in my freshman year. LA is where a pretty high proportion of the world’s most beautiful women have flocked to, especially around Beverly Hills, where UCLA is, and it is also close to Hollywood. And those early days of women’s liberation and the availability of birth control, it kind of became a free-for-all. When I visited my friends on the UCLA campus, I was standing on a sidewalk near the university union, and some babe jogged up across the street and gave me a high-wattage smile, a “hello handsome” look that I had never encountered before or since. As she smiled at me, I thought that she must have been smiling at somebody behind me, and I looked behind me but nobody was there. I turned back to her megawatt smile. I looked down and walked away, kind of unsettled by the experience.

My close friend at UCLA joined a fraternity the next year, and it was the same year that Animal House came out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon%27s_Animal_House

During his first year at that fraternity, the fraternity president gave a speech at a nearby model school – women learning to be models. When his speech was done, he pulled off a precursor to that Andy Kaufman stunt when he invited the audience to milk and cookies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Carnegie_Hall_show

The fraternity president invited the student body of the model college to their fraternity house for a little socializing, and two buses were waiting outside the model college, and the models-in-training filled the buses and were served campaign on the trip to the fraternity house. You can imagine how it went at the fraternity house. That orgy became legendary. Several years later, as I began my career in LA, I again heard about it from a senior accountant whom I worked for. The 1980s in LA were the years of cocaine and the “I have a BMW, therefore I am” mantra during the Reagan Greed Years, with people like Michael Milken becoming poster boys for the excesses of that era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Milken

But while my friends were attending orgies with models and such, I was living the chaste life, studying mystical material, working my way through school, being a vegan and the like. But in my senior year of college I sought one last achievement of meaningless athletic glory, and tried to become an all-American in my event. At six-foot one-inch and 140 pounds, I was not going be an all-American javelin thrower, and I gave up my vegan ways:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#vegan

My other closest friend finally kind of settled down with one woman, a former cheerleader and athlete, a babe with a capital B, and he cheated on her habitually, all of his friends hit on her but me, so she began to throw herself at me, and after a year of that, I broke down and lost my virginity with her, for my life’s greatest crime. Plenty of people contributed to that bittersweet event, but it was my fault for allowing myself to get sucked in like that. I then lived like a monk until I met my wife several years later, avoiding the women who threw themselves at me.

A few days after losing my virginity, I injured my back in a weightlifting incident, in the middle of my back, where the emotions chakra is. I still have the injury, more than thirty years later, and I will take that injury to my grave, as a daily reminder of my life’s greatest crime. As I look back, it seemed almost perfectly symmetrical, where being involved in collegiate athletics at the national level, with womanizing being the order of the day, gave my ego an inflation then a beating. In LA, it was about to become far more pronounced.

I went from getting record test scores to being told that I was stupid and did not know anything. That is how the accounting profession breaks in its newbies. :) In one respect, they were right, in that the academic experience is only a precursor to really learning the ropes of the profession, but as I was to discover, I had entered a completely worthless profession, although it would take me several years to realize it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

What the hell did that voice have in mind for me?

More later, but it is off to work for now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
3rd November 2012, 06:47
Hi Wade,

Not only did you notice the subtleties in your life in an uncommon way, but you write about it in a flow that is very easy to read and accept. Connecting the dotts in your life the way you do, indicates on a perceptiveness which is quite unusual, but nevertheless necessary for the job you are doing.
(the non profit job :))

It may sound out of place but I hope it is o.k to write it down

Wade Frazier
3rd November 2012, 15:44
Hi Limor:

Your observations are always welcome. You see with your heart, and that is what is most important.

I have a little time this morning for writing, and we will see how far along I can get.

Those days in LA were by far my life’s unhappiest. But even then there was compensation. I got away to the Sierras whenever I could:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=196769&viewfull=1#post196769

I joined a number of meditation groups, mostly related to Silva Mind Control, and the LA Silva instructor became one of my best friends. He was a protégé of the legendary Burt Goldman. I mummified fruit and did other experiments:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=574885&highlight=mummified#post574885

Even though I stopped watching TV when I was eighteen:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=573930&viewfull=1#post573930

I have been a movie fan since I was a teenager, and the movie experience is still something that I do regularly, but in my old age I am pretty picky; it has to be a good movie to get me into a theater. And in my first year in LA, I lived close to Westwood and Hollywood, where the best theaters were, and I saw at least a couple of movies a week, most weeks, and I saw plenty of foreign films. Running into movie stars was a weekly experience, often while going to the movies, but also on the street, in social situations, and so on. I acted in high school, recruited by my drama teacher, and even did a screen test when I was about ten. That came with the territory of growing up near Hollywood. Hollywood stars are people, too, often poorly adjusted ones. Lots of ego and greed in LA, but also lots of people trying to make a living by being creative. That is not an easy dance by any means. Through Silva, I met one of my best friends in LA, and he was an aspiring filmmaker who ended up making award-winning films.

While in LA, half of my friends were either in entertainment, used to be in entertainment, or were trying to break into entertainment, and that meant music, film, TV, books, and other media, although New York City was more where the publishing action was. One pal was a porn flick producer. LA was also the heart of the porn industry, but the San Fernando Valley was the center of it instead of Hollywood. My porn flick producer pal got into the business like so many others did: he was trying to get a break in Hollywood, but doing porn was a way to make money until he got his break. He was an aspiring screenwriter, and one of his ideas was The Divorce Game, which was the logical successor to The Dating Game and The Newlywed Game. Only in 1980s LA could a cynical game like that be pitched, and I doubt that the show ever got made. But he made money making porn flicks, and the “talent” in the movies were often drug addicts. He said that the star of one of his movies, an eighteen-year-old angelic-looking babe, was a Quaalude addict. The porn industry was the underbelly of the entertainment industry, but my friends regularly told me horrific tales of the reality of Hollywood, especially in the movie industry. The slime factor could be pretty extreme. Just last month, Susan Sarandon came forward with her casting couch story:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/10/15/susan-sarandon-casting-couch-elle-magazine/

but hers happened in New York. LA was full of that stuff, too. Ronald Reagan managed the Black List back during the McCarthy Era. What a charming man:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#reagan

He met his wife Nancy because she was on the Black List, wanted to get off it, and Ronnie was the man to see. Nancy reputedly was the best in Hollywood for giving out sexual favors:

http://www.ocweekly.com/2001-02-15/features/let-s-call-it-a-davis/

and I don’t know how she persuaded Ronnie to take her off the black list, but their romance soon flourished. :) When Ronnie was still making a living as an actor, his directors would send women to Ronnie’s trailer to “blow off some steam” to relax him for his scenes. That kind of stuff was standard operating procedure in Hollywood.

As I have written:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

my professional life in LA was a blur of inventories and the other disagreeable work in the office, with my career quickly going nowhere, if I wanted to ascend in the ranks of public accounting, which I did not want to do. I have written about the stress symptoms that blossomed during the busy season, and they came back and did not leave during my third busy season:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=327642&highlight=breath#post327642

I stopped going to movies so much, got out of LA whenever I could, developed a drinking problem, just getting a six-pack of beer on the way home and drinking it at home, and other sad coping mechanisms. I was also crazy loyal to my company, and spent two winters in a row living out of town on that big savings and loan job:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#getting

(which got me out of LA, so it was not so bad :) ). But the shark tank of my professional life, the cognitive dissonance of not being sure that what I did was benefitting society, the unfulfilled dreams of changing the energy industry and related goals, and living on a huge slab of smoggy asphalt with thirteen million other people, took its toll. I was shaking from stress, dreading the next day, and the same day that I was told that I could leave the company on my own terms, my “friends” threw another dramatic, larger-than-life situation into my lap, testing me, as I rescued a hooker from one of her customers:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406934&viewfull=1#post406934

When I went back to LA in February of 1986, I was happy that I would be leaving public accounting, but I was shaking from my stress symptoms. I was highly marketable, from my years at the big CPA firm, but I also resigned myself to the idea that I was trapped in LA. I had tried to find work in Seattle the previous summer, but was shut out. So, I began to have interviews in LA, but my heart was not in it. After an interview where I made it clear that I did not want to work too many hours (the kiss of death to that interview :) ), a weekend spent in Bishop with my friends, and a talk with my boss who was letting me leave the company on my own terms, but who lined up an interview for me in an industrial wasteland town, I hit rock bottom, more than eight years after that voice suggested to me that I might like studying business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

I was all out of ideas, trapped in the hell of LA. So, for the second and so far last time in my life, I prayed for guidance. It was a truly desperate prayer. I felt backed into a corner with no way out. After my desperate prayer for guidance, I fell into a dreamless sleep. When I awoke the next morning, the voice was not as dramatic as that first time, but the thought crept into my head in the first hour of waking, “Hey, why not move to Seattle now? You would likely starve, but it would be more fun than living in LA. What do you have to lose?” A person could argue that the thought was not as alien as the first time, when it suggested looking into studying business, but the thought came totally out of left field. I had resigned myself to years in LA the summer before, when I could not find work in Seattle, and figured that I would have to build a huge war chest to wait out a long look for work in Seattle. Starving in Seattle was an instantly appealing idea. It was not totally a leap of faith. I could live with my grandparents again:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

and that was truly a blessed experience. I lived with them for about six months in total, and those were some of my life’s happiest times. When I heard that voice again, I was on my way. I gave notice that morning, a Tuesday, and by Saturday I had moved all of my possessions that could not fit into my Pinto wagon into storage at my father’s house in Ventura, and on Monday I was rolling into Seattle, determined to find work if it took me a year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

The previous two years, I worked almost daily on Apple’s Macintosh, and I regularly used some software from a Seattle start-up. I have always been a technology geek, and computers and information systems always came effortlessly to me, and when I moved to Seattle, that start-up was doing well, and I am sure that I could have gotten a job with them. They did their IPO soon after I moved to Seattle, and that start-up, Microsoft, was going places. But before I could go chasing after a job at Microsoft, that voice had other plans for me, as I walked straight into Dennis’s company. It felt like a lightning bolt hit me. Little did I know that I was jumping from the frying pan of LA into the fire of life with Dennis.

I have written plenty of the incredible learning experiences that I had during my years with Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#why

but I have left plenty out of my memoirs, and I will add a few ones now. When I had that interview with the man who became my boss, he talked about how he was risking his life by working with Dennis, but that it was the most fulfilling work he had ever done. I got high atop my soapbox in that interview, and talked about how inventors were the unsung heroes of our society. My idealism was on full display, and there were no other contenders for the job after I was finished. They moved their factories the next week, and about ten days after my first interview, I met with Dennis and his wife, and in retrospect, Dennis and I both knew that something was up during our first eye contact:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=414784&highlight=contact#post414784

Little did I know what I was in for. :) I still look back and wonder if it all really happened, but that voice and all that came after it was all too real. I eagerly worked long hours for about three months, largely for free as it turned out, reconstructing the company’s records. Then my boss, that idealist who was risking his life by working for Dennis, helped engineer the theft of Dennis’s company. I could go on for quite some time on what I saw during those days, watching the many betrayals of Dennis, and the abandonment, to where two months after his company was stolen, I was the only person left who still wanted to work with Dennis. I chased him to Boston as he tried to rebuild the effort, and he got his first free energy idea the day after I got to Boston:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

Dennis tried to talk me out of chasing him to Boston, but I would not be dissuaded, and he relented. When I got there, there was a painting they made that was on the wall of their bedroom, about the ten lepers and the one who returned:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=577994&viewfull=1#post577994

It was about me chasing Dennis to Boston. Dennis and his Jewish wife are super-Christians, and it was only the first time of several when they described my activities as some kind of divine intervention. I don’t know where that voice came from or what it really intended, or even if it really had my best interests at heart. All that I know is that it come through when I asked it to, and once when I did not ask for it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3 ), which angered me and sent me into the dark phase of my midlife crisis, which lasted for four more years (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis ). Having that voice in my head became part of the folklore around Dennis, and being described as some kind of messenger for God is strange and ego-challenging, to put it mildly. Was that all really divine intervention? I know that when Mr. Professor and I ended up rescuing Dennis from the dark hole that Godzilla’s minions had thrown him in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

that it was divine intervention, spurred by my sacrifice, but getting to that desperate state is not what I would wish on anybody. But if that voice and whatever intervened to spring Dennis from jail are related, nobody has told me yet, and I am not sure that I want to hear the answer. All in all, I have no regrets, but what a crazy ride that all was. But here are some anecdotes that I have not previously disclosed.

Dennis later said that I was literally shaking in my interview with him and his wife the day that they hired me. I was so stress fried from my LA days that I had rings under my eyes like a raccoon. When I got the job, I moved out from my grandparent’s home and lived with an aspiring screenwriter who moved to LA the next year, to be where the action was, and we ended up in LA together, which you could not have convinced me was possible in that wonderful spring of 1986, which was the happiest year of my life. When I last saw him before I chased Dennis to Boston, he said that I looked twenty years younger than when I met him several months earlier. When I chased Dennis to Boston I was completely recovered from my LA days stress symptoms, as I pursued my life’s work and got to hike in the mountains every weekend. Oh, what a joyous time that was.

When I lived with my roomie, about a month after I began working for Dennis, there was a night when I laid on my sleeping pad (my bed had not been shipped up from California yet, with my other personal possessions) that I used for hiking. I was in an altered state all night long, half-dreaming about what I had walked into with Dennis, with my spirit exhilarated in a way that I have not experienced since then. It felt was like I was floating above the floor all night long. The first night that I slept the night with a woman, it was like that, and I had it once after I came back from Europe and had not golfed for a few months but would golf the next day with the new clubs that I bought from my unused Europe money (I was a legendary cheapskate on that European trip, spending only thirty dollars on myself in our two-month tour http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe , and my tour guide wrote a book of her life, and she noted my cheapskate record among all the many tours that she led). In my life, those are the only three nights that I had like that, with that night in 1986 being the last one.

While I joyously worked for free that spring of 1986, thinking that I was finally pursuing my life’s work with those who also were dedicated to the cause, my boss was plotting the theft of the company from Dennis. He purposely kept me from the area of the business where I would have seen what he was up to, and in June of 1986, he made his move. By June of 1986, I was one of the relatively few people who came to the office to work each day, with the company nearly dead. Dennis very much wanted me to reconstruct their books, and I worked for a promise of stock in the company, and I was ecstatic with the promise of a miniscule piece of the action. I was just happy to be there.

One morning, I got to work and Dennis and his wife were nowhere to be seen, and some people that I had never seen before were milling around the office. I just kept working, not knowing what was up, and a man I had never seen before came over to my desk and introduced himself. My boss came up behind him and intervened. He said that something was happening at work and that I should probably take the rest of the day off. So I did, but I had no idea what was happening. Later that day, I got a call from Dennis. He said that my boss was making a play to steal the company from Dennis, but it did not work. I was shocked, and at that moment I began to lose a lot of innocence, which was a ride that would not end until I left Ventura four years later, with my life shattered.

About a dozen of us “loyalists” who were not part of my boss’s conspiracy met at Dennis’s house that weekend. That is when I helped move Mr. Inventor’s inventions and related equipment into Mr. Engineer’s barn, so the thieves could not seize them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor1

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=414080&viewfull=1#post414080

That Monday, I was back at my desk, that time with Dennis and his wife running the office, and my boss and his co-conspirator, our general counsel, nowhere in evidence. As I sat there and worked, however, in came my boss and the general counsel. They expected that their ploy would be successful, they left a great deal of incriminating evidence in their offices, and they were there to recover them. I will never forget that scene as it played out in front of my desk. Dennis came out of his office and bodily blocked the door to my boss’s office. It looked like it would come to blows for a minute, with them trying to push Dennis out of the way.

My boss and our general counsel had committed crimes that merited time behind bars, but if you work on behalf of the forces of darkness, wittingly or not (I think they were motivate by greed, and not part of the effort by the electric companies to wipe Dennis out), you don’t have to worry about the “justice” system getting ahold of you. The legal system attacks were reserved for the man who made things happen, not the criminals and parasites that smelled blood and flocked to the effort, waiting for their opportunity for plunder.

My boss and the general counsel left, but they prevailed in a shareholder’s meeting later that week, in what was blatant theft. My boss was using his own negligence in completing the stock transaction that took Dennis’s company public to instead steal the company from Dennis. It was plainly a criminal act for anybody with the slightest acquaintance with stock transactions. It would be like opening a bank account and the bank saying, “Hey, thanks for the donation. This is my money now!” It was the first of many mind-boggling instances of the “law” working in the real world that I would experience over the next several years. Martin Luther King Junior once said something like, “Let’s not forget that everything that Hitler did was legal.”

The night before my boss stole the company, I was the security for the office, sleeping on a couch in my sleeping bag at the office, with people praying for my safety that night. The next day, when my boss was successful with his theft of the company, which he pulled off as the inside-job accomplice to a group of criminals who stole the company of Dennis’s financier a couple of weeks earlier:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#financier

there was a moment of truth at that shareholder’s meeting, when the theft was obviously going to be successful. The ringleader of the criminals took the podium and told the assembled crowd of hundreds that they did not need Dennis anymore, that they would take over the company and save the day. When he made that statement, a cheer went up from the crowd. I looked across that crowd in disbelief. The very same people who I had seen sucking up to Dennis in the previous months were cheering as his company was stolen. It was my first salient moment of awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

When the crowd shouted “Give us Barabbas!” before Jesus’s crucifixion, it probably looked a lot like that scene at the shareholders’ meeting. As Dennis later said, that cheering throng inherited the wind. Dennis left the state in days to try to rebuild the effort, with his wife and children only a few days behind him. Those dozen “loyalists” quickly fell by the wayside, one-by-one. I befriended all of them in those days, but they all bowed out pretty quickly, with one installer going to work for the thieves (who later testified against Dennis in Ventura – a long, sad story there – he was loyal to getting a paycheck above all else). Two months later, in early August 1986, I was the only “loyalist” left, and only two of them bowed out with honor. Mr. Engineer, who was basically unemployable, an old man with bladder cancer, went home to Ellensburg, to wait for Dennis to make something happen. After Dennis tried to talk me out of following him, and after I spent two dispirited weeks looking for work again, I called Dennis again and said that I would sleep on a floor to help him rebuild the effort. All I needed was food and a floor to sleep on. That won Dennis over, and I began planning my move to chase Dennis out to Boston.

My unseen “friends” threw many tests at me as I prepared, the last of which was improbably spending the last weekend in Seattle with a woman whom I also met through preposterous, way-larger-than-life circumstances, and I drove from Seattle in tears. Not only was I once again leaving Seattle for my so-called career, but that time I left behind a lover who soon ended the relationship.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

Leaving Seattle to chase Dennis to Boston was about the hardest thing I ever did. I went to Boston via California, pulling maintenance on my car at my father’s house, seeing my friends in LA, meeting Seth for the first time:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=260477&highlight=recorder#post260477

and towing a trailer with my CD collection, some of my books, and some cherished personal possessions and records that Dennis and his wife stored in Mr. Engineer’s barn. I slept in my car at rest areas on the way to Boston, and on the last day, I began the day in Tennessee and did not want to sleep in my vulnerable situation with that trailer, in the crime-ridden East Coast, so I drove all night and rolled into Boston on a Sunday morning at about 8:00 AM. I really did not know Dennis all that well by then. I was highly impressed with how he dealt with the slings and arrows in Seattle, but we really did not know each other. Within moments of my arrival and a big bear hug from Dennis, he said that I was an enigma, but he trusted his god that I was sent there for a reason. I then told him about Mr. Mentor’s influence:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and my dreams of changing the energy industry. Then our relationship really began. It is a long story, but Dennis was in Boston to basically bail out one of his salesmen who invested his family’s life’s savings into Dennis’s efforts. Dennis tried to bring in a competent investor to make the salesman’s family whole and take them out, but they fought him every step of the way, treating him like some wayward salesman whom they had to corral. Their house is where I lived during the first month in Boston, in one of the first solar homes in the USA (built in about 1950), which somebody was attempting to get historical landmark status for recently, and I hope they get it.

The day after I got there, I took Dennis to a facility where they made electricity using low temperature hot water, at about same temperature as the output of Dennis’s heat pump:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

That was when Dennis got his first free energy idea. I don’t know about the reader, but as I write this, I am continually amazed at all the synchronicity, the bizarre events that led to stunning moments of realization, and so on. Throughout it all, I kept my eyes and ears open.

Although 1986 was my life’s happiest year, I also starved. I ended the year about 20 days into what became my life’s longest fast so far, of 45 days. I did it because it was cheaper than eating. I drank a gallon of apple juice a day. I was also my first real winter, where I learned to drive on snow and ice, as it was a hard winter. We got a storm that dropped 4-to-6 inches of snow, every other day, for two weeks. The snow was two feet deep in the yard for about two months. And in that snowy winter, Dennis and I stayed up late into the night regularly in the living room, and I heard the story of his life, and what a life. Many of his life’s events are simply incredible, totally unbelievable to most people, like something out of a Walter Mitty fantasy, but to Dennis, they were just the adventures of somebody who followed his heart:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

His life’s events were about to become even more preposterous. During my fast, I took temporary work, and my last week of it was working at a Kennedy foundation in their payables department, and saw from the inside how the Kennedys were kind of treated like royalty in Boston. Not everybody thought of them that way in Boston, that was for sure, but when I worked in that foundation, the reverence and even awe that the Kennedys were held in was obvious.

We had just moved into that house where we spent the winter, and I used my earnings as a temp to pay the gasoline bill that I racked up driving across the USA, and Dennis finally got an investor lined up to make that salesman’s family whole and take them out, but the family wanted no part of giving up any stake that they had. The investor easily saw that Dennis was the main attraction, not that salesman’s family. I was just waiting for Dennis to start to make something happen, then I would quit the temp job and help him rebuild. Then the investor got a glimpse of the game that Dennis was planning to play with FE, and he got scared and pulled the rug out from under Dennis. I did not know it, just doing my temp thing and living in the house’s attic, but when the investor pulled out, he screwed Dennis by essentially stopping payment on his first installment (less than $2K, as I recall), of which Dennis sent $500 to Mr. Engineer and used the rest to pay the rent on our house. Mr. Engineer was already driving out to Boston, about in Montana at the time, and on Monday, Dennis’s rent check and the check to Mr. Engineer were going to bounce. Dennis was high and dry. As he later wrote in My Quest, when stuff like that happened, he just “looked up” and let God take care of it. It was as inside joke pun only known to me and the few others who lived there, because when he looked up from his bed, it was the floor of my bedroom. It was another time when Dennis saw his God acting through me. I don’t know about all that, but the next day was one of my life’s most memorable.

I asked Dennis on Saturday morning if I should keep temping at that Kennedy foundation, or did the investor come through, as the big meeting with him was the night before, when Dennis “looked up” when he went to bed. He said that the investor got cold feet and that I should just keep temping on Monday. I then asked Dennis for some of the details of what happened. I was going on almost pure faith that I was there for a reason, and just helping Dennis rebuild was the only thing on my agenda. Dennis told me that the investor was going to put up $20K to get Dennis going again, but got cold feet. Sometime in the next two hours, I asked Dennis if all the guy had to do was put up $20K to be his 50/50 partner, and he said yes. I replied, “If I come up with the $20K, can I be your partner?” Dennis later wrote that it was an effort for him to not laugh, coming from a man who was fasting because it was cheaper than eating. But for the next two hours, I called my friends and family, and my Monday morning, $25K was on its way to my bank account, and we were off and running. What Dennis did not tell me was that the investor was only putting up $20K as a down payment on a $1 million investment to be his 50/50 partner. Not knowing that ended up costing me dearly later, as my investors began to attack me.

I originally was not going to take a stake for myself at all. I wanted to heal the world and make my friends and family rich in the process. I also guaranteed that I would pay back their investment if our venture failed. Dennis heard my naïve notions and told me to take a 20% stake for myself. I then gave one share of our stake to Dennis, so he had control and did not have to worry about what happened in Seattle repeating itself, and Dennis insisted on control of his companies ever since. I called our investment group Better World Investors, and Dennis eventually named one of his companies Better World Technologies, after he got out of prison.

And I have already given some of the highlights of what happened after those events. An old girlfriend, whom I once considered marrying (super babe, as usual, but not very bright), was one of my smallest investors, who put up $500, began to question my motivation a couple of months after I raised the money, and I had four consecutive painful conversations with her where she accused me of ripping her off. After the fourth conversation, I was in tears in our kitchen and Dennis said to pay her twice what she invested and get rid of her, and he then made a tape to my investors where he said that he was making my guarantee good now, and that I would not be on the hook afterward, where my investors would either get double their money back or sell half of their stock for all of their money back. One friend took us up on the offer (Mr. Professor was in the picture by that time (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr ) and eagerly bought out anybody who wanted out). In December 1988, in the worst month of my life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it ), by far, on the day after I filed for bankruptcy, and the weekend before I began my job at that medical lab (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience ), my second largest investor, a friend who advised me to marry that old girlfriend, and who put her on the phone for our last sad encounter, and whom I begged to sell some or all of his investment the year before, called to tell me that he had gone and sold his investment behind my back to some people who were now hopping mad that he had sold them an investment in a “scam,” and that I needed to make them whole. I spent the next year paying that off ($5K), and my relationship with that friend was never the same although I instantly forgave him. Years later, he spread a rumor that got to me about how I was screwing him with his investment. That is the effect of a guilty conscience at work. I have had to do an immense amount of forgiving of those around me over the years, and my experience I think is a great example of never doing business with friends and family, even for the most idealistic and benevolent of motives. I guess on the upside, you will really find out who your friends are, but most friendships and family relationships will not survive the rigors of the experience, even when it is far more innocuous than what I lived through.

I have a busy weekend ahead of me, and I will be out of town for most of next week, so I will be pretty quiet for the next week, although I may get another post done this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
4th November 2012, 01:47
Hi:

I have some time. Boston was the transition from the happiest year of my life to the worst year of my life. 1986 ended with me literally starving, but happy I was there. After I raised the money, we began planning our first Greatest Energy Show on Earth, to tell you how much P.T. Barnum is in Dennis’s blood:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum

In that picture of Dennis in the pulpit at the Old South facility, I was sitting below him out of the picture, as his sidekick in the show. We did not demonstrate much in front of about 35 people that night, but we kept doing shows. While some people were impressed, they also said that we were bravely crazy, inviting the wrath of the energy oligarchy. We landed right in the middle of a huge nuclear reactor controversy that Michael Dukakis used as a political football for his run at the presidency the next year:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=421441&highlight=seabrook#post421441

We had one of our shows a quarter mile from the front gates of the Seabrook Nuclear Reactor. When Dennis got his audience with Seabrook’s chairman of the board soon afterward, they admitted that their technical people were in the audience for our show. We also heard from some inside connections that all the electric companies in New England held secret meetings about what to do about us.

Right about that time, Godzilla showed up, with our first friendly buyout offer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

I would have been an instant millionaire, but that was not our program. The local authorities were also sharpening their axes, looking to take us out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#middlesex

Dennis wanted to groom me to be his protégé. I had some talent, but not like him. I don’t think that I ever met anybody more talented than Dennis. His package of talent, heart, and courage I have never seen in anybody else or even heard of it. Today, Dennis is the only person I know of who meets these qualifications:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

We knew that we were being targeted, but did not know where the attacks would come from. They began coming from inside, as people tried to sideline Dennis and steal the business, etc.

At one of our shows, the head of the DOE for New England attended and asked very politely how close we thought we were to delivering FE. When Dennis and I spoke at DOE hearings ten years later:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

again, the DOE person was gracious and even enthusiastic, but they were not the people calling the shots.

About that time, a billionaire came to our hole-in-the-wall offices to sniff out the business opportunity, and we had a global-branded business test our heat pump, as a prelude to getting involved with us. Long story there, but it did not work out, to Dennis’s relief.

From working for free and offering to sleep on the floor, things changed fast, and those were the hardest days for my ego. That was when I had fleeting delusions of grandeur:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

Anybody who plays at those levels of the FE game must address that issue. The advent of FE will be the biggest event in human history, by far, and the immensity of the situation can seduce the ego. It took me a few months to get over that, and being attacked by a former girlfriend and others only accelerated the process, and my stress symptoms from my LA days quickly came back in full blossom in the spring of 1987. I was back to drinking pretty heavily.

It was not my decision to move to Ventura in the summer of 1987, and I did not find out why we really moved there until I read it in one of Dennis’s books. That last place on Earth where I wanted to move was back to Southern California, but I was not calling the shots.

The Boston operation never really got off the ground, but within a couple of months after hitting Ventura, Dennis found the next rocket ship:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ventura

and then they quickly lowered the boom on us, but Godzilla first made the legendary billion dollar offer for Dennis to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

A couple of months before Dennis got that offer, I began going into a general physical collapse, from some pretty relentless stress, as they rained the death blows at us. I eventually asked Dennis to buy out my shareholders. Because of those dynamics, I also did not know about Godzilla’s big offer until I heard Dennis talk about it in show in the summer of 1996, when he was flying high again. Dennis and I have never discussed that offer, other than to agree that taking a bribe like that was unthinkable. Selling out like that was the opposite of what we were all about.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
4th November 2012, 16:10
Hi:

I have a little more time than I had planned. We left Boston, driving a truck with all of our corporate assets in it, towing my Pinto behind it, and we went to that big corporation’s headquarters to have the heat pump tested. Then I drove to Ventura.

When I stand back and look at it, in Seattle, the electric industry called in all of its favors to take out our Seattle operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

Dennis left the state with little more than the clothes on his back after they finished with us, and when they killed one of Dennis’s employees:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

that was when Dennis got radicalized in the energy industry. While there were undoubtedly several paranormal events that brought us together, in Boston Dennis and I were running a shoestring operation, and we had the energy industry in New England very concerned about us in almost no time. Their immune system began to kick in, and I have little doubt that it would have ended up just as bloody as Seattle did if we had stayed. It just takes time to get the hit men and other assets moving. Godzilla’s ten million dollar buyout offer was an instance of his “benign” tactics at work.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

I keenly recall those non-descript businessmen, several of them, coming into our hole-in-the-wall office to make their offer. You could not have picked them out of a crowd. In Ventura, when Dennis hit pay dirt with a program that took off, we were a long, long way from delivering FE to a person’s home. We had the talent, technology, and personnel nucleus to where we were dangerous, some of the most dangerous that Godzilla has had to deal with so far, but they really ended up strangling us in our cradles. Laying a billion dollar bribe on the table meant that they knew what our potential was, and they had to take us out quickly, and they did.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

When I found out, many years later, that Sparky Sweet was right down the road from us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

and adding that with the lightning rod that we were becoming for suppressed inventors and businessmen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#platinum

and I can see why our operation with terminated with such extreme prejudice. In retrospect, it is not surprising that Dennis has had a lying “skeptic” dogging his steps since 1996, who simply makes up new lies when his lies are exposed:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=410817&highlight=gritz#post410817

Dennis gets smeared on national TV every few years, and Godzilla took his tactics to an entirely new level in 1996:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

Conspiracists take a story like ours and focus obsessively on the “conspiratorial” aspects of our treatment. In the end, those conspiratorial activities are really a minor part of the landscape. What is far more important is how easily our “allies” became Godzilla’s accomplices and victims, as I watched so many people turn into cowards and thieves before my eyes, or stayed so incredibly naïve that they could not see what was so obvious, largely because they refused to believe what was so obvious, almost invariably because they held on tightly to their ideological convictions, when it was easy to see how false they were (religion, nationalism, capitalism, scientism, etc. http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant ).

Structuralists, on the other hand, tend to deny any of the conspiratorial aspects of what happened, chalking it all up to unconscious behaviors in a chaotic environment. The structuralists are usually rationalist-materialists, and look to the “skeptics” to tell them what is happening, which is like asking Rush Limbaugh’s opinion on sophisticated matters of statecraft:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571831&viewfull=1#post571831

Both the conspiracists and structuralists are blind to important dynamics, and without a comprehensive perspective, they are like those blind men and the elephant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant

so their perspectives lack the breadth needed to truly understand the situation. What they both have in common is that they think like victims, not creators:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

They either deny Godzilla’s existence or obsessively focus on it. Neither perspective looks at the situation like a creator would, and that is the primary reason why we do not have FE today, not Godzilla’s antics.

But I want to get to what it was like for me. When we left Boston, I was kind of reeling already. The events in Boston battered me on several fronts, not the least of which was beginning to be attacked by my family and friends. My mother began it on that day when I raised the money to get us going. Instead of being interested in investing, she flew into a tirade when she heard that my father was one of my investors. When she attacked me on the day of the raid, and eventually made that scrapbook out of those lying newspaper clippings and it on tour to my friends and family, some of whom were my investors, telling the story of her son the crook:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492

it was truly a minor nuisance compared to what else was happening, to give some idea of what it was like in those days. Our relationship was never the same. My mother, as I have written, had an IQ of about 85-90, and the TV and tabloids were her source of information, and she worked for the local paper. She could not bring herself to believe her son’s version of events over her employer’s, or even ask her son for his side of the story. She believed everything that she read in the papers, even when it libeled her son in the midst of an evil attack on his life’s work that could have helped humanity turn the corner. My father ended up parroting the newspaper clippings, too, before the dust settled in Ventura, and he actually knew something about our operation, as he was an investor. If my own parents did not have a clue, how could I really expect anybody else to? That is why I look for needles in haystacks.

In August of 1987, I was living with Dennis his family again, about a half-mile from the county courthouse and jail. We had just hit town, and I found out the likely fate of the people who stole Mr. Mentor’s engine and ran a prototype in the Rose Parade:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#car

We did some Greatest Energy Shows in LA, with me towing our demo units behind my Pinto, as usual, but it all changed when Dennis began running ads for “free electricity!” in USA Today, and offered informational kits on how to build, sell and install our heat pump, while also announcing that we were working toward free electricity. Soon, checks began pouring in across the nation. One of the buyers of our informational kits spoke to the USA’s Attorney General about us. The guy knew Dennis by name, said that they had investigated us thoroughly, and that we were “squeaky clean.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#squeaky

Every sitting president since then has known Dennis by name, and Clinton hated Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

But sitting U.S. Presidents are a ways down the global food chain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents

With our program coming up a big winner, we went from a few volunteers to forty employees in about two months. It was like holding onto a rope tied onto a rocket ship. I was already feeling the strain of my days with Dennis, to put it mildly, and getting on a rocket ship was one hell of a wild ride. We quickly approached a million dollars a month in sales, and it took us a month to fill the orders that were pouring in. Just as the program took off, Mr. Mentor approached us with the idea of marrying his world’s best engine for powering an automobile with the panels from Dennis’s heat pump to make free electricity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ventura

A few months later, Victor Fischer came aboard, and we began flying very high. We had a meeting of our kit owners near our office, and several hundred people attended. I distinctly recall telling somebody that unless they stopped us soon, they might not be able to stop us. How unfortunately right I was. In the audience for that show was Mr. Deputy, who had also attended one of our Saturday demonstrations at our facility. The next day he was readying a search warrant, and the next day, January 14, 1987, they struck:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

Their raid was a plainly criminal enterprise designed to wipe us out and steal whatever we had worth stealing. We had grown so quickly over the preceding months that we also occupied a neighboring building where my office was. I was constantly walking between our buildings to get my job done, and I was between buildings when I heard this great roar of engines, and I watched about a dozen vehicles enter our driveways by several directions, and the lead vehicle came a stop right in front of me in a cloud of dust. I clearly recall the shock of standing there in front of all those vehicles, as Mr. Deputy emerged from the lead vehicle and asked me if these were the premises of Conserve Financial Services. I was watching a bad acting job by Mr. Deputy. He knew full well that those were our premises, as he had attended our Saturday show at our facility a few weeks previously, and I am about 98% certain that he knew that we occupied the other building, but he feigned that he did not so that he could leave the premises and go back to the courthouse to amend the warrants while his goons ransacked our facility before the official “search” began:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#espionage

When we found out the next day what they had done, and Mr. Researcher, whose office they ransacked, was literally white in the face with shock and I was afraid that he would keel over, for the first time in my life, I seriously harbored violent thoughts. Nearly a year later, when Mr. Deputy made faces at me as I was on the witness, taking off his dark path mask for me, letting me know in no uncertain terms that he knew exactly what he was doing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

my mind envisioned scenes of murder, with me pulling the trigger. I had reached the nadir of my adventures with Dennis, reaching the lowest moment of my life. I have never felt as soiled as I was during those moments of imagined violence. Of course Wade, the pacifist and Boy Scout, was never going to act on those ideas, and after a month of stewing in those juices, while Dennis was thrown into solitary confinement by Mr. Deputy (who was promoted to be in charge of the jail immediately after arresting Dennis), Mr. Researcher was in hiding, calling me from his hiding place and bewailing in sorrow, and I was going bankrupt and being betrayed by friends right and left:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=578559&viewfull=1#post578559

going blind reconciling a garnishment account in the basement of a huge, world-famous security company, I decided that I would do whatever I could to give Dennis a sliver of hope of seeing this side of the bars again. The first thing I did was meet Gary Wean in January 1989:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

who gave me the best advice that I could get: nobody in the USA’s government, anywhere, was going to intervene in the evil activities of the Ventura County officials. I had to take them on on their own turf. If that sounds suicidal, it was, but those were my options. It was then that I decided to sacrifice my life to give Dennis a hope of justice. Of the innumerable cowardly, criminal, and naïve acts engaged in by our “allies,” Mr. Professor stood out like a beacon in the blackness. He was the true hero of what happened in Ventura, and it ended up costing him his life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

So it is, with the saints of our world. One thing that I want to make clear is that Mr. Professor, or myself, or Ralph McGehee:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

or even Dennis, did not have a burning desire to be a hero-martyr. We were only trying to do the decent thing, when everybody was either bowing to evil or actively helping it out. When a handful of people do the decent thing when almost nobody else has the courage to, they become “heroes,” although the American media establishment will vilify Dennis until he dies. I clearly recall the moment that I decided to sacrifice my life to give Dennis a chance. When I decided to do it, I knew that I was signing away my life, but it had to be done. I remember being in some kind of exalted state when I did it, and Dennis and I both know that the moment that I sacrificed my life, somebody up there took notice. I do not know if it was the same entity who spoke into my mind when I changed majors from chemistry to accounting or when I moved to Seattle, but six weeks after I made that sacrifice, Dennis was impossibly out of jail.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

Once Dennis was out of jail, I knew that my heroics were no longer needed. But I also told Dennis that I had had enough of playing Indiana Jones’s sidekick. I would spend the next several years digging out of the debt that I got into to spring Dennis from jail, and my life was wrecked on several fronts, my estrangement from both of my parents only part of the price I had paid. Going bankrupt was a minor nuisance in those days. Mr. Professor also went bankrupt before long and his health unraveled.

I stated earlier that I could have been a benchwarmer on my high school basketball team. I played sandlot ball with guys on my high school and college basketball teams, and if I had focused on it, I could have made the team. When we hit Ventura in 1987, I went to see my old track coach, who remembered me and how far I threw in college, and I played basketball with Mr. Professor, one-one. I was 29, and he was 52. I am fifty-four today and stopped playing basketball in my thirties. At 29, I was still pretty good, and Mr. Professor thought that I could have made the college team. He won his state’s discus and javelin throws in college (North Dakota, so not the Big Time, but still respectable). Mr. Professor actually gave me a game. I always won our games, but they weren’t walkovers. He was competitive with me, at age 52. He was some kind of stud. He was also a millionaire the year before we hit town. Three years later, he was bankrupt and his diabetes had gone so out of control that his legs had developed gangrene. His wife got that cured by taking him to Mexico for treatments that are outlawed in the Land of the Free:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#gangrene

and he eventually admitted that stress of the nightmare in Ventura likely had something to do with his rapidly failing health. At this funeral, when that friggin’ voice piped up, that time unbidden, claiming credit for leading me to him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

his widow told me that if she had not taken him to Mexico for treatment, he would have spent the last ten years of his life in a wheelchair. As it was, I always wanted to take him to Alaska one last time (his favorite recreational venue), but his health did not permit it, as he was on dialysis for the last several years of his life, and he was too broke to afford another trip to Mexico, and all I could spare was what I sent him each month to pay off the debt for Dennis’s legal defense. I wished that I could have sent him ten times that much. Dennis and I both offered him our organs for transplant, as did several other people, including former students of his, but he refused all of our offers, saying that he would only accept organs from people as "old and useless" as he was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_edn56

He was a saint to the end. They did not make many like him. I was devastated by his death, obviously, but my wife reminded me to not be too hard on myself. Mr. Professor worked off probably twenty lifetimes of karma and achieved sainthood (the Ventura County goons also took vengeance on his family for standing up to them, and I can’t publicly relate the particulars, but Ventura is an evil place, that sunny surf town). Mr. Professor, his widow, and Dennis did not blame me, far from it, for Mr. Professor’s fate, but I own a piece of it, and it will haunt me to my grave. That damned voice owns a piece of it, too. Much of the motivation behind my efforts, and to a degree Dennis’s, is so Mr. Professor’s efforts will not all have been in vain.

As you might imagine, just writing about this is taking a lot out of me. There was compensation, however, in many ways, from my journey, and I will tell of some of it in future posts. I saw Mr. Professor in his heaven, for instance, at the viewing of his body as his widow said her goodbyes. And he sent me an unexpected message then too, as I saw him accompanied by angels, next to his body as his wife said goodbye to it. He was having a good time in his heaven.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th November 2012, 01:04
Hi:

I went hiking with my wife this morning, questing after the golden woods of autumn, and I was not disappointed, attached.

This will likely be my last post for a few days, as I travel. Here is what happened at the viewing of Mr. Professor’s body as his widow said goodbye to it. I was an honorary pallbearer and the only person who came from out of the immediate vicinity, as I recall. His widow called me with the news of his death, and I would not be denied attending his funeral; my wife encouraged it and his wife was surprised that I would come. None of his family came, as his journey estranged him from his sisters, again the standard fate of anybody who seriously pursues FE.

I had talked with Mr. Professor the previous month, telling what was happening on the FE front that I knew of, and said that he hoped to live to see the day when it happened. If anybody deserved to live to see it, it was him.

Again, different psychics have different ways of attaining their information. As I stated before, I am an empath, while I also tend to visualize what I am tuning into. I sometimes get sounds. That voice in my head, however, is not one that I could physically hear, although for some close to me, it can be that way. You can even encounter heard voices like what a decidedly non-mystical Eugene Sledge encountered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#voice

and a friend had a similar experience when she got cancer, with a voice saying that it would take care of her:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#alternative

My voice is more like intrusive thoughts injected into my mind, but they are very clearly words.

At the viewing of his body at the funeral home, I sat in the audience seats with his daughter and her children as his wife approached his body and said her goodbyes. I then went into my trance, praying with all my might for whatever benevolence might be bestowed on that moment. I visualized him on the astral plane, and he looked nearly the same, with his glasses even.

I decided to attach some pics from those days. Attached are two of my notorious self-portraits, where I use my long arm to aim the camera back at us. I did it with the picture of Dennis, and of me and Mr. Professor – one in 1988, before I left for the summer, burned out, soon before Dennis was arrested. The other is of me and Mr. Professor, taken in 1990, just before I moved away from Ventura (and I never returned and will never return, if I can help it). My wife and I lived with Mr. Professor and his wife before we moved to Ohio. The last one is of Dennis and Mr. Professor the winter before he died, when his skin turned orange. It was from Dennis’s 2001 national tour. Two greater men I have yet to meet, and that voice led me to both of them, so perhaps that voice can be forgiven.

As I saw Mr. Professor on the astral plane, the effects were very light, as if he was in a very bright place, kind of shimmering. He was in a place that looked like a cross between Alaska and North Dakota, his two favorite places on Earth. Afterwards, I realized that the image that I had of him looked like the picture that his wife had put up of him at the viewing. He looked nearly the same the whole time I knew him, and I later realized that the picture that his wife put up was of him when he was in his twenties. He had the same hairstyle and glasses, just fewer wrinkles, and I realized later that it was him at his prime. In most accounts of when people encounter loved ones and other deceased people, either on the astral plane or when they show up in people’s minds on Earth, they usually appear as they did in their primes – 20s and 30s – because that is how they want to appear, when they were at their physical peak, and I realized later that that was the Mr. Professor that I saw in my vision, of him in his prime.

I also would open my eyes and see with my spirit vision, the kind where you can see auras. When I am seeing in that way, sometimes it is a physical effect, and at others it is like a waking vision, where I can see something in my mind’s eye while my eyes are open, but I also get a sense of what I am seeing, a kind of articulated translation of the vision.

As his wife was at the casket, saying her goodbyes, I opened my eyes and saw four columns of golden light standing next to Mr. Professor’s widow. Two were taller, and two were nearer to human height. I somehow knew that the shorter columns were Mr. Professor and his mother, whom he was closer to than anybody in the world besides his wife, and the taller columns were the angels accompanying them. They were about twice as tall as a human.

I then closed my eyes and continued to send loving energy and blessings, and then reached out to him on the astral plane (a disembodied consciousness can be many places at once and carry on many conversations at once, as they are freed from our restrictions of time and space). I was expecting more of that dazzling light, but I got a big surprise. Instead of the dazzling light of the astral plane, I saw a dark scene, so dark that it seemed surreal. I was looking across a plane, like the North Dakota prairie or an ocean, perhaps. The sky was dark as pitch, but at the horizon was a brilliant light, as if the sun was coming up or had set, within the hour of the sunrise or sunset event. I could not tell which one it was, but it was dramatically stylized, unlike any sunrise or sunset could be on Earth, with the contrast between the dark sky and the brightening horizon too great to be a physical event. I will never lose that vision of that dramatic scene, which was far from what I expected when I tried to see him on the astral plane. I had no idea what that scene meant.

After his widow was finished saying her goodbyes, I approached the casket. I could see the toll of his disease on his hands, with his fingers getting gangrene. His skin was orange in his last months. I touched his head, said goodbye, and right at that instant, the voice in my head popped up, completely unbidden. I suppose that I asked for it, peering into the astral plane and seeing his light body with the angels. The voice said that when it first spoke to me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

it had in mind a lot more than changing my studies from science to business; it was to meet Mr. Professor. I never suspected it until that moment. I know that many people might think that that would be some kind of great blessing, to be led as I was, to be around such immense beings as Dennis and Mr. Professor, but I did not take it well at all. I had a hand in Mr. Professor’s ruined life and early death, no matter how benevolent my intentions, no matter that I did absolutely nothing to encourage him to get involved with us, other than send him a Christmas card in 1986, letting him know what his former student was up to (I kept in touch with a fair number of my former teachers, and I was the student that they all vividly remembered).

Being told that, at his funeral, sent me into the dark phase of my midlife crisis, which lasted another four years, to peak when I received an invitation to the White House:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

But the anguish of his early death hit me after I returned home from that funeral in North Dakota. While I was still at the family farm, I sat with his widow and told her what I saw at the funeral home. I asked what that strange vision might mean of that surreally enhanced sunrise or sunset. She replied that he had always been fascinated with sunrises and sunsets, and while living in North Dakota, he would often drive out onto the prairie, watching for the sunrise, or staying after sunset. I instantly got the impression that it was when he felt the most spiritual, although he was anything but a mystic. I also got the sense that the sunrise was a little more of a spiritual experience for him than the sunset. When he lived in Ventura, it was in a canyon where he could not see the horizon, and his wife told me that he always missed the sunrises and sunsets while he lived in that canyon.

He obviously sent me that vision, to let me know that I was not just imagining what I sensed that day and that he was doing fine. Neither he, nor his widow, nor Dennis holds me in any way responsible for Mr. Professor’s fate, but I will always own a piece of it, and for years I have let that voice know that I am not interested in hearing from it anymore. Maybe one day, I will again, but I don’t want any more adventures like the one it sent me on. I have had enough of that for ten lifetimes, and building an abundance choir should not have to see me drug behind the truck like Indiana Jones again, or risk anybody’s life. I have no interest in any more of that.

Time for work and other chores.

Best,

Wade

sandy
5th November 2012, 04:02
Hi Wade,

What keeps coming to mind for me in catching up on reading the last posts ~~~~~ of course the Creator would couple spirits of like minds and hearts to further the creation of mankind's evolution :)

How the heck are we ever going to get Free Energy released if there are not great beings of integrity, heart, courage and disciplined selflessness to role model the way? Building the heart energy needed to move the frequency is happening today because of wonderful humans such as The Professor, Dennis, Brian, Gandhi, etc, and many others including YOU.

When one stands out against the crowd and the message is different, the shots ring out and because of having open hearts they are felt intensely at the heart energy level. One too many shots for some finish them physically and their stamina is never the same but once an open heart always an open heart and spirit continues as long as it is purposeful IMHO. Once becoming sentient you can never go back, I have tried :)

Wade Frazier
5th November 2012, 06:02
Hi Sandy:

Maybe the Creator lined up those stars, but if so, then she and I have a little catching up to do. :) Yes, once the heart is awake, it cannot go back to sleep, and I know about the broken hearts, I am sorry to say. That conscience is such a nag! :)

Time for bed and an early and long day of travel tomorrow; about six hours in the air.

Best,

Wade

sandy
5th November 2012, 06:16
Keeping you in my heart for safe, trouble free, adventurous and productive travels my Brother. What is it they say, I think it goes something like ~~~it is not the destination but the journey~~~ and boy what a journey you are having :)

Wade Frazier
5th November 2012, 13:33
Hi Sandy, my dear:

I am just about to go to work and then jump on a plane later, and I’ll say this: I was only Indiana Jones’s spear carrier, and playing his spear carrier was way too much excitement for me. I hope that the rest of my days on Earth are relatively boring; hiking in meadows, playing with my wife and friends, working at a normal job, and building a choir.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th November 2012, 19:30
Hi:

I am back home, and will be spending a couple of weeks away from home in the next month, but will be mostly around for the next couple of weeks.

I just posted over here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=580933&viewfull=1#post580933

I want to wrap up my “life’s experiences” posts and get back to Rome, etc. This post will not be about psychic experiences, but how naïve I was during my days with Dennis. I lost my naiveté honestly. I have mentioned before, after I saw several attempts to steal Dennis’s companies (and mine), and other zero-integrity acts, that I mentioned to Dennis how shocking it was to witness, and he said that my shock was a normal reaction, and that I would eventually no longer be shocked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#shocked

I cannot overemphasize that people pursuing FE need to get over their naïveté sooner than later, but they usually have to get some experience when people are involved in something of the magnitude of FE, to begin to understand what it can do to people. On that playing field, you quickly realize that people that you thought you knew, people you had known your entire lives, became unrecognizable when faced with the perils and temptations of pursuing FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

You really have to see it to believe it, which is a big reason why I am just looking to build a choir, not an army. Almost nobody on Earth today has the right stuff to go play on this terrain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

and I am not even looking for them, but those are the only people who have any business even trying the inventor/business route to FE. But let’s move on to my naïveté and losing it. That moment in that shareholder’s meeting, when my boss completed the theft that he helped engineer, and the crowd cheered the obvious thieves:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=578559&viewfull=1#post578559

was one of my key moments of awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#why

and one of many that would come fast and furiously over the next several years. But when I was in the parking lot when the goons descended on our facilities:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=579023&viewfull=1#post579023

I was in shock. I really had little idea of what they were up to that morning, but Dennis’s wife sure did. She was all over them, challenging their right to occupy our building, and when they finally let us in, she said that they already obtained what they came for. She was right, which we did not find out about until the next day:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#espionage

I was oblivious to what they were really after. When I heard that the raid would last into the night, I went home, got my golf clubs, and figured that I would get in some much needed practice on the driving range. I stopped by the office on the way to the driving range, and Dennis’s wife put me in charge of supervising the raid, now that the deputies became “cooperative” after they stole everything that they could. That picture at the link below shows me “supervising” them as they hauled off our equipment.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid

I never made it to the range that day. :) I shake my head at how naïve I still was back then. Early in my “supervision” is when Mr. Deputy, acting like some overgrown Boy Scout (dark pathers, AKA sociopaths, are good at mimicking behaviors, and he had his overgrown Boy Scout act honed to a masterful degree, as did Mr. Texas, as did Bill the BPA Hit Man http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm , as did Mr. Skeptic http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends, etc.) and he took me aside and tried to convince me that Dennis had acted dishonestly in Seattle. When I told him that I was there and knew what had happened, he stopped trying to convince me, but I guess that he thought that it was worth a try, to sow doubt, dissention, and fear in his partner. But it took nearly a year for him to finally take off his mask for me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

The morning after the raid was another seminal moment of awakening for me, when my blood pressure went down enough. By that time, we were also infiltrated on the inside by Mr. Texas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

In our desperation after they aimed their first death blow at us, Dennis tried to decentralize the effort, and Mr. Texas gave such a polished performance at his pitch to become a regional presence for us that we gave him a round of applause when he finished:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400493&viewfull=1#post400493

and when Dennis was arrested he made his move, and Mr. Texas wrecked our company within a month of Dennis’s arrest, but he had plenty of help from the naïve and the dishonest, probably the most “helpful” being Mr. Stooge:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#trio

who wanted to replace me as Dennis’s protégé when I went into my stress collapse in that spring of 1988. Dennis told Mr. Stooge that he did not have the right stuff to be his protégé, and he was right. Mr. Stooge was Mr. Texas’s first chump whom he recruited to help steal the company. That fateful moment when I met them in the parking lot of our office, mere minutes after they successfully shut the doors of our company, was another salient moment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient3

By that time, I had lost enough of my naïveté that I could smell Mr. Texas’s play from a mile off, but I could not believe it when Mr. Engineer told me that he and Mr. Researcher were going to go to work for Mr. Texas:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

I think that it was more dishonorable than naïve on Mr. Engineer’s part. He would go to work for whoever could pay him. Luckily for him, Mr. Stooge and Mr. Texas stuck their daggers in him once they got from him what they needed, so he did not get too deeply into the muck with them. Dennis, Mr. Professor, and I all loved the old guy and forgave him, but his actions ended up costing us. In his last year of life, he got together with Mr. Researcher, and admitted, “We are a couple of saps.” To admit one’s naïveté is actually part of the path to shedding it, but nearly age seventy is kind of late to start to lose it, and somebody like Mr. Engineer probably would not lose it if he lived to be ninety.

I think that I have put up enough paranormal experience posts, as well as what it was like to see my journey through my eyes.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th November 2012, 06:05
Hi:

I am currently reading Paul Bairoch’s Cities and Economic Development. It is kind of tome-ish. It is a rather focused effort, for instance, where the author wrote at some length about how imported sugar provided nearly 10% of the dietary calories of the commercial cities of Western Europe in 1730, but wrote not a word about the prodigious impact on the peoples forced to provide that sugar: captured Africans (except in passing later in the book and unrelated to the sugar issue). One of history’s greatest demographic catastrophes ended up providing highly unhealthy and addictive calories to some “fortunate” Europeans, and about all an economist can write about is how it increased the dietary energy of the exploiters (basically an energy transfer from tropical lands and enslaved Africans to Europeans). I don’t want to denigrate Bairoch’s work, there is a lot to recommend in it, and he is careful to stress what he focuses on, but that is one of the great pitfalls of much of economic inquiry. It tends to focus narrowly on certain issues, and neglects others than can give a bigger picture.

What Bairoch makes clear in his survey is that agriculture was a prerequisite condition for cities to form. That may seem obvious, but it has been challenged in some corners, unsuccessfully, IMO. Urban life essentially allowed for quick communication between people and an increase in their collective skills through specialization, which manifested in advanced crafts, institutions, and eventually industrialization and modernity. It all relied on the farm, however, as it provided the energy to fuel the city. As I will make the case, urban environments will likely become largely obsolete with the advent of FE. Communication and transportation would be effortless, and would easily overcome the primary reasons why cities exist.

The signal feature of the development of cites was the appearance of professions, and the appearance was dependent on an agricultural surplus that could be traded, and low-energy transportation to market, which is why all early cities were on some sort of low-energy transportation lane, bodies of water most commonly.

Greek cities in the classic period were constrained in size because of the relatively low agricultural productivity of the hinterland (millennia of harmful farming practices obviously contributed), and Athens was not able to feed itself and became the first city to have a monetary economy. The surplus population of Greece spread out and colonized the Mediterranean periphery, likely driven by hunger.

As I have covered a bit on this thread, Rome eventually prevailed over all other rivals and turned the entire Mediterranean periphery and much of Western Europe into a provider of food and goods to the capital city. Rome was really a huge parasite, with most of its citizens receiving free food at the height of the Empire, with between 75% and 95% of its grain coming from outside of Italy. Rome burned through the forests, peoples and soils of its imperial lands, to collapse over centuries, leaving behind a devastated landscape that took centuries to somewhat recover. J. Donald Hughes’s Pan’s Travail covers a lot of that territory. For all the advances by the Greeks and Romans, their civilizations were not sustainable and collapsed, with Rome’s impact, from one end of the Empire to the other, being truly devastating, as Rome ruthlessly extracted plunder from the conquered peoples and lands.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th November 2012, 14:51
Hi:

Rome really did not do too much inventing on its own, nor really did Greece make great strides in inventing better ways of living. It was still peasant- and slave-based farming, deforesting the land, conquering its neighbors, and ultimately wrecking its environments. Before the classic period of Greece, the Tyrant of Athens gave a bounty for Greek farmers to plant olive trees, as it was about the only crop plant that could survive on land where the topsoil had been eroded away.

In studying the human journey, my summary of its primary feature remains the same as I wrote two years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct

It has always been an energy game. Humanity’s energy practices formed the foundation of every civilization for all time. As Marx once wrote, the houses that were placed on the foundations might have looked different, but the foundations determined what kind of house it could be. I think that it sums up one of the key aspects of the FE conundrum. People tend to ignore foundations and fundamental issues and focus on fashion and other frills, although only if they get beyond hunger and other survival needs. Each one of those phases of the human journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

had a “mode” of production that was dependent on how humans got their energy. Everything depended on that. When I began this preview of my upcoming essay back in July:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=519314&viewfull=1#post519314

I tried to make it clear that the entire history of life on Earth has ridden on the energy situation. That is the awareness that I hope to help develop in enough people’s awareness so that we begin to really think about what an FE foundation can look like. Once the FE foundation is understood, the kind of house that can sit on it also comes into focus. But without the foundation, the house cannot stand, and that is what makes what I am doing different than almost all visionary efforts of the past. As Fuller stated, shared austerity is no recipe for Utopia, which is why they always failed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#austerity

The only Utopia with a chance of coming to pass will be based on abundance, and that can only be based on energy abundance, and anybody who thinks differently is not scientifically literate and does not really understand how the world works. Some scientific literacy is needed so that the big picture can be understood. Average Americans, for instance, have absolutely no idea where their energy comes from. All they know is that they flip switches and the lights and furnace come on, and when they put their foot on their gas pedals, their cars accelerate. That is literally about all they know. They don’t even know where their food comes from. New Agey magical thinking also does not have the heft to be practical, like The Secret:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

That is why I keep stating that we need to go deep if we are going get there. Superficial, often-narcissistic magical thinking will not cut it, but it all begins in the heart. Love is the key and always has been. It is the real name of the game in physical reality, as love is the energy of creation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

Time for work.

Best,

Wade

soleil
9th November 2012, 18:53
thank you wade. i was not aware of this before today, and since just joining the forums. i'd be proud to help spread the word to provide something tangible to those who have hope for a free energy day, one day.

Wade Frazier
10th November 2012, 05:32
Hi Teradactyl:

You are the first dinosaur that has posted to this thread. :) Welcome.

I think that my message is a song more than a word, which I am still learning to sing myself.

OK, a little more on domestication and urbanization. The advent of agriculture happened independently, in what seems to be a dozen places or more around the planet, and they all happened within a few thousand year period, from about 10,500 to 7,000 years ago, with the New World lagging behind the Old World, which is one reason why they may have been conquered so easily by the Europeans. High energy cultures readily defeat low energy cultures. The New World had few domestic animals, and the Old World was highly dependent on them. That the Domestication Revolution happened nearly simultaneously in several places has led to a great deal of speculation as to its cause (even ET intervention). Today, it is thought to have been a Malthusian reaction – that necessity is the mother of invention idea – to a declining food supply per capita, meat in particular, due to the success of the hunter-gatherer lifestyle and how it drove all the easy meat to extinction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

There is also speculation that climate change played a role, and it may have:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas#Effect_on_agriculture

It also looks like cities sprang up in several places independently. There is no doubt among anthropologists that the New World and Old World’s cities sprang up quite independently, and when the Europeans came conquering, they found cites that outshone anything that Europe had to offer, which led anthropologists to speculate on the universal traits of the human journey. They were all based on agriculture, they all had their elites, who had their positions buttressed by the religious ideology of the day. They were all dominated by men, they were all violent, the potentates all had enhanced reproductive rights, which usually meant harems of the most beautiful women (beauty standards also seemed to be universal), and they all had specialized labor as the hallmark of their societies.

They all had to be on low-energy transportation lanes so that the food, in particular, could be readily delivered to the urban masses. They all first appeared in warm climates close to the equator, but rarely in the tropical rainforests. Life was easy in the rainforests, as far as procuring food went, so the dynamics of civilization only sporadically appeared there. Life had to be a little harder than a rainforest existence to stimulate people to develop civilization.

And where civilization was around the longest, especially where they smelted metal and had plow agriculture, those lands are Earth’s most eroded, such as around the Fertile Crescent and Mediterranean. The New World is not as eroded, yet, but Europeans have eroded about half of America’s Great Plains topsoil in a couple of centuries, for a vastly greater rate than ancient civilizations did. A number of ancient observers noted how climates changed due to human activities. Aristotle’s student Theophrastus, for instance, noted that deforestation, erosion, and drainage affected local climates, and not for the better.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th November 2012, 16:07
Hi:

My approach does its best to take the long view, the comprehensive perspective, as it is the one that will allow us to focus on what is important and not get caught up in the daily circus that comprises mass consciousness. That does not mean that I don’t pay attention to current events. I can hardly be unaware of the presidential horserace that just concluded, but I had no idea that gay marriage and legalizing marijuana were even on our state ballots until they passed:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/washington-referendum-74-gay-marriage_n_2050539.html

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/07/news/economy/marijuana-legalization-washington-colorado/index.html

In the USA, what happens on Election Day and in Washington D.C. I call retail politics. Nothing of real importance happens at those levels, but like organized religion, it has become a spectacle used to control the masses, keeping them riveted to rituals that are nearly devoid of all meaning.

The USA has always been a plutocracy, ever since America’s richest man was elected its first president:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#washington

He used the political system to help garner his personal wealth and was never bothered in the slightest by the conflict of interest that attended that situation, but American mythologists conjured tales from the thin air about his honesty:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#weems

Four of the first five presidents were slave owners from the “Virginian Aristocracy,” who set the tone for the imperial expansion of our great nation. The other two presidents of the first six were father and son who hailed from religious fanatic roots, and the dynastic aspect of their presidencies echoed European royalty (as it still does today – just yesterday, another George Bush threw his hat into the ring http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121110/POLITICS03/211100319/1022/rss10... shudder). And from George Washington to Barack Obama, they were all imperialists (although some were more eager than others). America’s imperial ideology did not really get a full head of steam, however, until the 1820s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#patriot

and as the USA began looking more like a proper empire, an explicit ideology that invoked God’s sanction for the land theft and the genocide of the Indians took root:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#steal2

and when the “frontier” closed because all the land had been stolen from the Indians, American nationalism reached orgiastic dimensions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

and America then began to act like a real empire, stealing the last shreds of Spain’s empire and killing hundreds of thousands of its resisting new subjects:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#philippines

with Britain’s imperial bard welcoming the USA to the imperial smorgasbord:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kipling

Not everybody cheered the theft and genocide, and arguably America’s greatest writer ever vigorously opposed the USA’s immense crimes, although his anti-imperial writings are virtually unknown today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#twain

The censorship of Twain’s anti-imperial work for the past hundred years has a deep resonance with me, because the culprits in the censorship of his work were not only the corporate/imperial interests, but his own family. His wife and sister were eager accomplices in burying his anti-imperial work because it did not jibe with the posthumous image that they wanted for him. They wanted to cash in on his famous literary legacy, but what he surely thought was his most important work was buried by his own family, and the establishment was only too happy to oblige. That is a cousin to my own mother making a scrapbook of all those libelous articles about us and taking it on tour:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492

Anybody who really wakes up and smells the coffee of our world as it really is, and tries to do something to change it, is not going to find many, if any, allies among their family and friends. The masses seek the safety of the herd, temporarily sating their addictions and living their quiet lives of desperation, and do not want to hear about being awake. It frightens them.

In my old age, I have been getting a little less reticent, and have been telling some around me at the office, who engage me on subject matter such as high technology, politics, and religion, a little about my past. No theory. Just the facts of my journey and those of my fellow travelers. That is usually about the last time that they are willing to talk to me, as the fear of watching their tidy worldview go out the window rocks their brains. I do not do it to be malicious, but this public work of the past few years is putting me in a frame of mind to not be so quiet about it as I used to be, and I am testing the waters a little, to see if anything has changed much since the 1980s. In some ways, it has, in that some will say, “Hey, that sounds just like the X-Files.” But the denial rears its head rather quickly, and it is easier to dismiss me as crazy, even when I have stuff like this that I can point to:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm

Not too many people are home in the USA, or anywhere in the world, really. That is why I keep saying that I am looking for needles in haystacks.

I have a busy weekend ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th November 2012, 17:19
Hi:

Quickly, before I start my busy day, I just saw this article about Sears playing copycat with an invention:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/popular-wrench-fights-chinese-rival-004542621.html?page=all

That took me back. The rampant invention thievery by Sears was literally about my first introduction to inventing and the real world, back when I was a teenager. Mr. Mentor told me that Sears was legendary in stealing inventions from inventors. All of Mr. Mentor’s inventions were either stolen or suppressed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

Years later, hearing about Mr. Inventor’s unknowing acts of criminality on behalf of General Motors was no surprise:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor

I could go on for days about that stuff, and if you amp up those dynamics about three or four orders of magnitude, you begin to get an idea of what FE inventors are up against, which is why none of them have a prayer, IMO.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
10th November 2012, 19:17
Hi

Wade, i've just read an article in NewScientist about "pot vote" (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22488-us-states-vote-to-experiment-with-marijuana.html) in USA. Turns out you can smoke it legally in Colorado and Washington State now ;) Ok, ok i know you are against drugs :) Me too... Tried pot once, but nothing special happened... I wonder if there will be another ideas boom like before banning LSD. Maybe this will bring some open mindedness toward FE idea?!

The best "drug" is serotonin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin) our brains can produce on demand :) Though 90% of serotonin is synthesized in alimentary canal! Have just learned that from linked entry to WikiPedia page on serotonin. Your mention of pot vote and pot vote article prompted me to read about serotonin.

Maybe we eat too much because of serotonin role in digestion. And high level of serotonin is responsible for good mood. Hence eating food makes humans happy...

We have a saying in Poland that says something along this line: A Hungry Pole Is An Angry Pole ;)
We also have another saying: To Reach A Man's Heart Aim For The Belly ;)

Wade Frazier
10th November 2012, 20:00
Hi Robert:

The drug issue is a big subject. I do not say that all drugs (psychoactive or not) should be banned, and they certainly should not be compulsory (like fluoride http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold ):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1

If the biomedical companies had their way, food and water would be classified as drugs, and could only be imbibed with a doctor’s prescription. The mind-expanding drugs should probably have their place, but in a world of scarcity, drugs are a temporary escape from misery, and easily abused to the point of wrecking a person. Criminalizing drugs is the path of disaster, but gives the dark pathers many opportunities. The open wars in Latin America (you won’t see me as a tourist in Mexico anytime soon) are all about poverty meeting the world’s richest nation that is hooked on drugs, but criminalizes certain drugs, while subsiding others, with hypocrisy that boggles the mind.

I am not sure if I wrote it on Avalon, but I once worked with a guy who was in the military police, as a narcotics investigator. I told him that in Ventura County, the corruption in law enforcement there was legendary, with the Superior Court judges actually controlling the drug trade there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#drug

and the guy said that it was like that in every county in the USA. There is too much money in the drug trade; it corrupts everybody involved with it, especially law enforcement.

Crazy world.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
10th November 2012, 23:05
Hi

Idea of drugs as a form of escape has crossed my mind too... And this: Putting the question of marijuana legalization on ballot and "allowing we the people to decide for themselves" would also let Godzilla "stone" people's mind even further... One of my friends described to me what happened to him when he smoked a lot of it during one day. He could not solve a simple crossword... He was terrified with it. Like the saying says: too much is too much... You have to know the limits. Always. Especially with FE. It is not scarcity it is modesty. And it is a good thing IMHO...

ThePythonicCow
11th November 2012, 00:56
If the biomedical companies had their way, food and water would be classified as drugs, and could only be imbibed with a doctor’s prescription.
Given the strange and noxious substances in most of our public water supplies, a doctor's prescription might well be warranted :rolleyes:.

Dennis Leahy
11th November 2012, 04:36
Hi

Idea of drugs as a form of escape has crossed my mind too... And this: Putting the question of marijuana legalization on ballot and "allowing we the people to decide for themselves" would also let Godzilla "stone" people's mind even further... One of my friends described to me what happened to him when he smoked a lot of it during one day. He could not solve a simple crossword... He was terrified with it. Like the saying says: too much is too much... You have to know the limits. Always. Especially with FE. It is not scarcity it is modesty. And it is a good thing IMHO...
Hi Robert,

I do not understand this: "too much is too much... You have to know the limits. Always. Especially with FE. "

I have heard that with some pets (rabbits, I think), that you have to watch out - if you overfeed them, they will eat and eat and eat until they get sick and maybe even die. There are some humans like that - but the percentage is low.

I grow food in my garden. I grow more than my family can eat (and give the rest to friends and a local soup kitchen.) If I wanted to, I could eat too much broccoli, or carrots, or potatoes, or tomatoes, or peppers. But I don't.

Anyone who has a job can easily afford to buy enough booze to literally die of alcohol poisoning. It is a highly addictive drug, pushed by alcoholic beverage companies, very accessible, relatively cheap. Some people do kill themselves, many are damaged by alcohol, most people figure out how to find the line and hold it.

I have read that some people put enough solar panels on their home that they produce more electricity than they consume (and I have heard that the power company "has" to buy the surplus - if you are still connected to their grid.) Excess energy, yet these people don't use it. They do not consume more just because it is "free."

If having easy access to too much of anything guarantees that most people will overindulge to the point of ruin, then why doest society reflect it?

So, I do not believe that Free Energy will create a deluge of problems for society or for the Earth. I suspect a few people (the same ones who do too much of everything), will probably overdo it... but all-in-all, society will handle it just fine. I am truly not worried at all by FE. I am worried, however, if we don't get FE. (Millions will suffer and die needlessly.)

Dennis

Wade Frazier
11th November 2012, 04:45
Hi Paul:

You gave me my chuckle of the day. You are probably aware that some drugs that the biomedical folks have come up with are not metabolized by human biology, so they end up in the sewer systems intact and then in nature, and that is having its impact. All of that “progress!” :)

To Rome and its aftermath for a moment…

All of that deforestation and plow agriculture had its impact. Between 200 AD, at the end of the Pax Romana, to 600 AD, a century after Rome collapsed (Rome had about 100K people in 600 AD, down from a million or more in 100 AD), the population of Europe fell by around 50%, to 20-35 million. Epidemics had something to do with it, but epidemics likely are partly an outcome of impoverished health. The centuries after the Roman collapse are not called the Dark Ages for nothing.

Even Tainter, whose dispute with Jared Diamond is well known, has stated that environmental deterioration may have contributed to Rome’s decline. Environmental deterioration is often seen in light of how the plants and animals suffered, and how depressing such affairs must have been for the human inhabitants, but environmental degradation primarily means that the ecosystems were depleted of their energy resources (the solar energy bound in trees, soils, plants, and animals), and therefore had less energy for humans to exploit. There is an absolute economic price that humanity pays when it has degraded its environment. To separate the studies into environmental effects (the impact on plants and animals) and economic effects (the impacts on human material wellbeing) is an artificial division that can really obscure reality, and tends to reinforce human egocentrism. Economy and ecology are really joined at the hip, as long as we wrench our energy from the ecosystems to sustain human energy needs. FE, of course, can sever that relationship, and as Ilie noted, the severing would likely be permanent. Once humanity got over the hump, and that hump is arguably more in people’s heads and hearts far more than in the physical reality of humanity and its relationship to nature, then going back would be like going back to living in caves.

From the lead that appears in the Greenland ice cores, to the decline in carbon dioxide as Rome declined seen in the Antarctic ice cores (see Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum), the global impact of Rome’s trajectory is discernible. It took Europe a thousand years to regain the population that it had at Rome’s height. London and Paris did not reach the size of Rome at its height until the 1800s.

As Rome and Europe declined, Islam rose, with the Islamic armies conquering the Iberian Peninsula, wresting it from the Visigoths who filled the void left when Rome collapsed, and Jews lived in their Golden Age in Europe under Islamic rule, and Cordoba was by far Europe’s largest city. Piracy resumed, and the Vikings began their invasions in the late 700s. The Catholic Church burned all the classic Greek works as pagan, and the reintroduction of the Greek writings to Europe as the Christians “reconquered” the Iberian Peninsula, and gained access to the great Islamic libraries, is what led to the rise of reason and science in Europe.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

It is the history that led to the Industrial Revolution that will be central to this part of my energy essay. The Medieval Warm Period began about the same time that Europe entered its High Middle Ages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

That increasing energy to Europe stimulated a great period of deforestation and city building. As Brian Fagan surveyed in his The Great Warming, while Europe had something of a golden age, many other places in the world suffered epic droughts and their civilizations collapsed, such as the classic Mayans and Anasazi, and the vagaries of the climate in those years saw a decline in China’s civilization and the eventual rise of the Mongol Hordes, who may have been spurred to go on a conquest binge because of drought in their homelands.

What is very clear is that civilizations before industrialization were extremely vulnerable to the weather and climate fluctuations, with hunger being a constant threat. That existence is something that overweight Westerners have a hard time even imagining, but that was the reality of all civilizations before industrialization.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
11th November 2012, 14:15
(...)
Hi Robert,

I do not understand this: "too much is too much... You have to know the limits. Always. Especially with FE. "

I have heard that with some pets (rabbits, I think), that you have to watch out - if you overfeed them, they will eat and eat and eat until they get sick and maybe even die. There are some humans like that - but the percentage is low.

I grow food in my garden. I grow more than my family can eat (and give the rest to friends and a local soup kitchen.) If I wanted to, I could eat too much broccoli, or carrots, or potatoes, or tomatoes, or peppers. But I don't.
(...)
Dennis

Hi

Dennis, THERE are people who just don't know their limits. They will eat too much just because they can. Like pets you write of. It is sad but it is true. I have no idea what percentage of population they are. I don't know if it is just habit of accumulating energy surplus for "dark hour" or it has something to do with serotonin (feel good chemical produced by animal bodies) being produced mainly in our guts. And many people are hedonists seeking for pleasure constantly :(

Have read about a cruel experiment about placing electrodes in the "pleasure center" of a rat's brain. The rat is given a possibility of powering those electrodes and stimulating it's pleasure spot by a switch. Some rats die of first and hunger because they constantly activate switch and forget about eating and drinking.

Our brain consist of three layers. Reptilian, limbic and neocortex. R-brain is responsible for maintaing the body and keeping it in homeostasis. This R-system is motivated by fear or pleasure. On top of that is our limbic system which is a seat of higher emotions and can override actions of the lowest layer. And neocortex rules them all. Everything works just fine and an individual knows her limits naturally if our developement is unhindered by unnecessary interventions and allowed to unfold as Nature intended. Some people have their r-system in charge because their limbic system and neocortex are underdeveloped. The result is not knowing the limits.

If we look at it from the darwinian point of view, the survival of the fittest idea, this trait of r-system assures low survival rate of a pleasure seeking overeating individual because it damages the body.

So if we arrive at the FE level of The Game it means that all know their limits :)
If not The Game is over...

Sorry for interrupting Wade's series of Rome post. I felt the responsibility to explain myself.

Wade Frazier
11th November 2012, 14:51
Hi:

The issue of scarcity and greed is an important one. If the Michael material is to be believed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#overleaves

some souls will choose greed as the way that fear accesses their personalities, to learn the grim lessons that physical reality has to offer. So, greed may never go away entirely. However, in a world of scarcity, greed is the predominant chief feature. Greed runs the show on Earth today. Capitalism exalts greed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed

as a crucial aspect of how the system functions. When a vice gets turned into a virtue, something is awry. Conspiracists and newbies to the FE conundrum virtually always look at the government as the chief architect of FE suppression, and I always have to correct them, or at least try to. People can’t seem to shake the idea that the government is primarily responsible for FE suppression. Nothing could be further from the truth. The government is merely a tool that Godzilla uses, just like any other tool. Every time we got taken out, it was the government that wielded the public club, but they always did it at the bidding of their private interest patrons. I describe it to FE newbies as capitalism on steroids. Greed (including for both wealth and power – power is the ultimate goal, and in a world of scarcity, controlling wealth is how power is achieved) can never be satiated, because it is the fear of never having enough. It is the very opposite of an abundance mentality, and because our world is so deeply conditioned on scarcity and greed, almost nobody can really understand what abundance means. When I made those suggestions that Robert, Ilie, and Telosian Embrace took me up on, to create those threads on the fear of FE:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell

on what becomes obsolete with FE:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

and what a future Earth could look like:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth

my intent was to bring aspects of the FE conundrum onto the table so that they could be examined. The “obsolete” thread that Ilie began I keep stating is arguably the best thread on the Internet, and I mean it. If you look at all of those aspects of our world today that would become obsolete with FE, they are because humanity lives in abundance. That “obsolete” thread is really an abundance thread. The essay on my site that was perhaps the most enjoyable to write was the one on abundance, especially the part that described what abundance looked like:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

I wrote that essay during the darkest phase of my midlife crisis, and as I look back, it was probably to remind myself what my journey was all about.

In a world of abundance, greed will no longer run the show.

Unbridled greed will eventually destroy everything around it. One of the best examples of rampant greed was the life of Hernando de Soto. He started his career as one of Balboa’s men:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#balboa

and raped and plundered Central America for a generation, contributing mightily to its depopulation. When people think of the conquistadors, they usually think of the Aztecs and the Incas, but Central America was populated by millions of people, and after the islands of the Caribbean, it was the first place to get depopulated by Spanish evil. Central America had open plains that became rainforests after the natives were used up. Those plains were human-created environments, similar to the Great Plains of North America.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#plains

One of the Spanish chroniclers, Oviedo,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Fern%C3%A1ndez_de_Oviedo_y_Vald%C3%A9s

who was not sympathetic to the natives like Las Casas was (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#casas), witnessed the stupendous rape, pillage, and depopulation of Central America, and wrote of how incredible it was to walk in a wilderness that was a thickly-populated paradise just a generation earlier. He could scarcely believe the devastation that had been wrought in just one generation. Soto was in on that rape and pillage from the beginning. But Central America was not gold plated. One historian wrote about Soto something like, “How much rape and plunder could one man participate in in a lifetime before he was satisfied?” A "normal" man would have had a hundred lifetimes of rape and plunder from Soto’s eighteen years in Central America, but the success that Cortes had of conquering the Aztecs fired the imagination of Spanish freebooters.

When Columbus arrived in the New World, the Caribbean natives had difficulty understanding their greed. Life was easy in the Caribbean, which was about the closest thing to an earthly paradise that ever existed. The men that Columbus left behind on his first voyage began fighting with each other over supremacy almost before Columbus’s ship was out of sight:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#fort

and they wanted women to sleep with. They were provided them, but one wasn’t enough, or two. The men ended up with about six women each, emulating the harems of Islamic potentates. In colonial Paraguay, the average Spaniard had nearly twenty concubines.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#harems

Observing Spaniards said that the dreams of the sultans came true in Paraguay. The rape, plunder, and waste of humans lives was perhaps history’s greatest in those early years of conquest, and is the only era of the human journey that I am aware of where humans were regularly used for food:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#dogs

Soto was not content with a generation of rape and plunder in Central America, and was one of Pizarro’s men who set out after gold-plated civilizations in South America, and they found one. The conquest of the Incas is another bloody tale, and Soto came away from it rich as a king. But it still was not enough for Soto. He soon was mounting an expedition to North America, to see what gold-plated civilizations could be had for the taking there. His North American expedition engaged in the prodigious brutality that the Spanish were so famous for. The first slaughters of natives on what became USA soil were engaged in by Soto’s expedition:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm#napituca

Even when reading accounts sympathetic to the natives, the incredible destruction of native life was treated in passing. On the North American expedition, Soto engaged in standard operating practices of the Spaniards in the southern lands. They captured hundreds of Indians and chained them together at the neck, to use as porters. The porters would not last long, and one winter of chasing out the occupants and occupying their town used up all the porters, so in the spring, more Indians had to be captured to be put into porter service, for the few short months that they survived the process. Soto’s favorite recreational activity, when he wasn’t raping women, was hunting Indians from horseback with his dogs. It was a favorite conquistador pastime:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#monteria

Even with the chroniclers who were sympathetic to the Indians, such activities are scarcely mentioned, or if they are, it is in a kind of “boys will be boys” tenor. Soto’s expedition laid waste to what became the Southeastern USA, although the diseases they brought with them may have done most of the work. A generation later, another Spanish expedition came to plunder the same region, and they planned to be predator/parasites just like Soto’s expedition was, wresting towns, food, concubines, and porters from the inhabitants (and hopefully gold! :) ), but they were in for a surprise. Lands that Soto’s expedition had described as thickly populated were deserted ruins:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#luna

The “humanitarian” gold quest engaged in by Coronado (who is an ancestor of a close relative), at about the same time as Soto’s expedition, did the same thing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm#tiguex

raping, plundering, slaughtering, etc. Although Soto was rich as a king from the Incan plunder, he died along the banks of the Mississippi River, and less than half of his men (no Spanish women attended those predatory “explorations”) returned to Spanish settlements. Soto is history’s only person to prominently participate in the first rape and plunder of Central America, South America, and North America:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#soto

Soto did not know when to quit, driven by greed until the end. Soto, Balboa, Cortes, Pizarro, Columbus – all were evil-minded men, primarily motivated by greed, and their greatest adversaries were always other Spaniards, not the natives. Balboa and Pizarro were killed by their own men (Pizarro served up Balboa to his execution by beheading by his father in-law, to be betrayed by his own men eventually – honor was in short supply among the freebooters), and Columbus spent one journey back to Spain in chains. Their immediate afterlives must have been something like Hitler’s. And all over the USA, cities, schools, rivers, islands, and other landmarks are named for them. In Ventura, I almost went to Balboa Junior High School. I attended Junípero Serra elementary school:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra

Serra was the Hitler of California, building North America’s first concentration camps. His were religious concentration camps, but the final product was just like that of Auschwitz. And Serra is up for sainthood today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint

I went to the California equivalent of Adolf Hitler Grammar School:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#congregacion

The predominant ideologies of our time turn darkness into light, and the endless slaughters of the innocent become twisted into tales of glory. That is part and parcel of the FE conundrum. Those inversions of reality are a big reason why almost nobody can even comprehend abundance, and irrationally dismiss my life’s experiences as a “conspiracy theory.”

Time for a long day at the office. It will be back to Rome and its aftermath soon. There are many dimensions of the Roman phenomenon.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th November 2012, 06:13
Hi:

That post I made this morning spurred me into some reading. The issue of the pre-Columbian size and state of the people of the Western Hemisphere, and just how devastating the European invasions were, is one of the more contentious areas of scholarship. I have read a pretty fair amount of literature on the subject for the past twenty years, and it is a key area of interest to me. I just finished reading one of Livi-Bacci’s recent papers in the subject this evening.

http://usmex.ucsd.edu/assets/022/10125.pdf

His voice is a good one (I have some of his books on the subject), but I also just looked back at my Soto book by David Ewing Duncan, and was reading about Soto’s 105-day march through Coosa territory. The question of the impact of the Spanish presence in the Caribbean, Mesoamerica, and Incan lands has been the source of rancorous academic battles for several centuries. As you can see in Livi-Bacci’s paper, the human impact gets a huge share of the “credit” for the native population collapses where the Spanish came and stayed, turning the populace into slaves, even more than disease in probably many instances. But that is for places where the Spaniards came and stayed, imposing their will on the natives, to catastrophic effect, where Spaniards were around to witness and chronicle the impacts.

But when Soto’s freebooters marauded through Coosa territory, it had an immediate impact on the peoples, but the Spanish left and did not return for twenty years. When the Tristan de Luna expedition came, planning on preying on the same peoples that Soto did, they found depopulated lands. Duncan speculates as to the causes, all attributable to Soto and friends, whether it was disease, starvation after the Spanish stole their food just before winter, disruption of the political-economic system and the trade routes, the deaths of so many able-bodied people because of Soto, or some combination. Whatever they all were, and what their synergistic effects may have been, the civilization vanished after one encounter with the Spanish marauders.

It is like the quick disappearance of all elephants in the Western Hemisphere, from the Arctic to South America, soon after humans appeared. The scholars who try to minimize the human impact have a tall task ahead of them, especially when the elephants of Africa and Southern Asia did fine.

The demise of the Coosa was far from the only place devastated by the Spanish in those days. When Soto’s crew went marauding, they came upon a recently depopulated region, probably courtesy of disease from the failed Ayllón expedition:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#chicora

Late in the invasion, soon before Soto died of fever, they attacked and stole one more town, on the Mississippi, Pacaha:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacaha

The next time Europeans visited the area, in the 1673 Marquette expedition, the entire region had been depopulated. There is plenty of mystery in that instance, but I think that it is easy to underestimate the devastating impact of the invasions that the Europeans inflicted on the Indians. Entire civilizations can easily unravel when subjected to such stresses.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th November 2012, 16:13
Hi:

A quick comment before I run off to work….

The primary message of my upcoming essay and my work is really pretty simple, which is partly why I think that non-scientists can understand if they take a little time. I really don’t think that it takes all that much “intelligence” to understand.

For instance, there is not a serious scholar on Earth who sees anything heroic about the Spanish invasions of the New World and the European rivals that came behind them. It was an evil enterprise from beginning to end. The only debate among serious scholars is just how devastating the invasions were. But in the popular culture, the evil-minded men who led the invasions somehow became heroes. Shedding the imperial ideology is really not hard to do, if a person wants to. But that is the hard part, because in a world of scarcity, the ideologies justify the slaughter and exploitation as some kind of righteous deed, or the crimes are swept under the carpet, and the herd gets carrots and sticks to keep them in line with the program, and everybody needs to eat.

I was just reading this weekend about some of the same old stories, the kind you see repeated ad infinitum in our imperial society. The people who killed that “diplomat” were “terrorists” whom we called “freedom fighters” when they did our bidding:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-10/why-did-cia-director-petraeus-suddenly-resign-…-and-why-was-us-ambassador-lib

This is a very familiar theme:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#terrorist

and our nation’s evil designs often create blowback:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-10/worm-turns-chevron-infected-stuxnet-collateral-damage

And for a person whose eyes are open, it is transparently easy to see through the imperial apologists who labor mightily to turn darkness into light, who turn vices into virtues:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#vices

who encourage us to ignore the lessons that we learned at age five, because we are so grown up now:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

Most of what I have to teach does not require some mighty intellectual prowess to comprehend, but just honesty and an open heart.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
12th November 2012, 17:38
Thanks for this post Wade :)

It was something that needed some sort of clarification. You often say that you need to be "scientifically literate" to be able to understand how energy runs the show. It is my impression that this may feel intimidating, like the words "science" and "scientific" are some super solemn and complex concepts that very few can get.

I don't think that's the case! In fact I believe that solid science is simple and clear! You don't need to be a rocket scientist or dabble in quantum mechanics, strings theory and "time-vortex-mathematics" (I just made that up) in order to understand how energy runs the show. In my opinion only a very basic and "down to earth" understanding of science is more than enough...

I find that asking yourself often "how stuff works" it's a good way to deepen the understanding of your world. And it is within your reach! There even is a website called HowStuffWorks: http://www.howstuffworks.com/ that explains most of the concepts in a simple and clear manner.

So it's enough to simply become interested in how the world functions around you, and you will find yourself "scientifically literate" in no time. And hopefully you'll start to notice the thread of energy biding all things (and systems).

Wade Frazier
13th November 2012, 06:17
Hi Ilie:

That is a big subject that I don’t have the time to cover right now, but I probably need to before long, and I will likely be doing more personal experience posts, to show how I came to where I am in my approach. The issue of scientific literacy and understanding the energy situation is critical. Yes, people should not have to be rocket scientists to understand how energy runs the show, but they need to understand the science of energy well enough to realize that so-called hydrogen power, electric cars, air cars, biofuels (I just saw another urine-powered engine today http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/urine-powered-generator-unveiled-international-exhibition-234718329.html - you can see a post somebody made about urine power somewhere on this thread) are not answers at all. It is all about where the energy is coming from, not how it is manipulated, stored, etc. There are people who think that batteries can solve our energy problems.

At least windmills are capturing energy and bringing it into the human ledger, but wind sure ain’t going to solve our problems. Hydroelectric, wind, solar, biofuels, fossil fuels, hydrogen “power,” air cars, urine “power,” etc., etc., are all forms of solar energy. Of the usual suspects, only geothermal, nuclear fission, and tidal power are not coming ultimately from sunshine, and none of those are abundant. Tapping the ZPF is abundant. Lots of theory out there on tapping it. LaViolette calls it genic energy, while Jeane Manning’s (and Joel Garbon’s, but Jeane was the primary author) Breakthrough Power lists thirty names for ZPE that she gathered over the years (and “genic” did not make that list).

You do not have to be hip enough to begin to get into the intricacies implied by this post made today:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=582954&viewfull=1#post582954

that I will be replying to before long. What might be helpful is to just know that many theorists are chasing after that Holy Grail. Adam’s reply to the discovery of the Higgs boson is along the lines that many are chasing after these days:

http://projectearth.com/founder-essays/view/48-scientific-proof-of-the-presence-of-the-god-field-confirmed-by-cern

In brief, the Unified Field is God. If you want to call the unified field love, I can get with that, too. There is a physical/technical aspect to it that technology can get at, and until we become Level 19s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

we are going to get at that field technologically, but only if our hearts are in the right place.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
13th November 2012, 15:59
Hi:

I’ll respond to that FE inventor’s thread before long, as posts are being made to it, but I have been there and done that on the FE inventor front, and am trying something different.

Science, intelligence, sentience – those can all be highly charged words. They have their place and importance, and I will make some posts about them and how I see them related to my work. I have already posted about my father’s math ability. His IQ is way up there:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571130&highlight=math#post571130

From almost the time I could walk, I was recognized as a chip off the old block, but my younger brother’s IQ is higher than mine, and my other brother has an IQ around 75-80, which likely comes from my father marrying a woman with an IQ about half of his. So, “intelligence” is one of my family themes. My IQ is on the low end of the genius range, and I have been blessed to know people a lot smarter than me. Intelligence is a talent, like psychic, athletic, or artistic talent, but it is what people do with their talent that matters.

I became a student of genius, being mentored by Dennis and Mr. Mentor in my lifetime, both of whom were smarter than me. Science came effortlessly to me. Math took some effort, but I was still in the genius range for math. With a mother whom I passed up intellectually before I was ten years old, the issue of intelligence and getting by in this world has occupied me from a very young age. Maybe because we are supposedly a sentient ape, and learning to make and use tools is what made humanity what it is, a huge portion of the human ego is wrapped up in the idea of “intelligence.” I have stated it before on this thread that some of the smartest people I know have said some of the stupidest things I ever heard. So-called intelligence is certainly not all what people make it out to be. I’ll take heart over head any day.

But as a student of genius, I came to understand how it worked, and there were aspects of it that I felt could be taught to people. In a way, that is what part of my work is about. What I found was that geniuses really looked at problems in a simple way. Somewhat paradoxically, they were able to handle the complex aspects of an issue, but they also were able to sort them out, picking out what was important in a mass of information. For systems of thought, they sifted through the information and identified the system’s assumptions. The assumptions are where they focused their ingenious insight, and they then turned the assumption upside down or inside out. I’ll give some examples in coming posts.

Dennis is one of the greatest creative geniuses that I have ever encountered. To a great degree, he was an untaught genius, being raised as a migrant farm worker:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

and being forced to leave home at age thirteen. For all that my life’s experiences may seem way larger than life, they pale next to Dennis’s. When he was teaching me the alternative energy business, it could be a bewildering experience to try to understand how he saw things. But, I was the pupil of another world-class genius, Mr. Mentor, so I was familiar with the genius process.

For instance, the year that I met Dennis, he had scientists, engineers, and inventors working for him. The young engineer who designed the Seattle heat pumps really did not understand the technology very well, and Dennis was constantly correcting him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#young

He eventually tried to extort money from us in Ventura, and testified against Dennis, and was actually showed his own report, to counter his testimony that the claims that Dennis made for his heat pump’s performance were “impossible.” When faced with his own report, that young engineer had to admit the “impossible.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#testify

That is an example of somebody not being able to think past their textbooks. In Seattle, after the company was stolen, Mr. Young Engineer was one of the “loyalists” for a brief time, and he designed and built a model, using Excel, to show a prospective heat pump buyer what the “balance point” of the heat pump would be for their home, which meant how much of the heating load the heat pump could provide. Being totally new to the game, I had no other frame of reference. I did not even know how the heat pump worked when I chased Dennis out to Boston:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

When I lived with Dennis, I mentioned Mr. Young Engineer’s program, and Dennis soon made the statement that his heat pump, “Did not save energy, it saved money,” and that Mr. Young Engineer was trapped in an engineer’s way of looking at the heat pump, and that his “balance point” program was worthless as a marketing tool. All homeowners wanted to know was if the heat pump would save them money. Dennis was right, and that understanding was behind his “system for savings” program:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

Dennis’s “system for savings” program is still the most ingenious marketing program that I ever saw, but none of his business associates could understand its simple genius, which is why every time his associates stole his companies, they quickly threw away Dennis’s “crazy” marketing plans and tried selling the equipment for cash, going for the quick capitalistic kill. They never understood that Dennis’s marketing program is what made his efforts so meteoric. All the people who tried selling the heat pump for cash quickly went out of business.

But Dennis’s program of selling to a mass market was also an admission of where his customers were coming from. Saving money is a purely microeconomic decision, and could be called egocentric. If people bought Dennis’s equipment for the immediate economic benefit that they would receive, they were in it for themselves. As long as you understood that, you knew what people could give you. It was really the same thing with his employees in Seattle, in that they were all there for the paycheck. They were as self-interested as Dennis’s customers were. So when the big sledgehammer came down, to wipe out Dennis’s Seattle effort:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

he certainly did not have any allies among his customers, employees, or business associates, because they were all their for their immediate economic benefit. However, one person was there because a voice in his head led him there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

and he was the only person who chased Dennis out to Boston to help him rebuild his effort. When I saw the employees cheer the thieves in Seattle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

it was a great moment of awakening for me, helping me shed my naïve notions of what motivated people. One reason why I am not with Dennis anymore is because he keeps playing the business game, appealing to people’s self-interest. He has always played the religion and nationalism cards, but after many years of watching those approaches and being uneasy with them, I was finally able to articulate what they all had in common, and why none of those approaches had a prayer, or if they did, the downside was potentially catastrophic; they were all appealing to scarcity-based, and necessarily egocentric, ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and appealing to a person’s self-interest is the path of disaster for the FE game, especially with Godzilla and friends being as vigilant as they are. Of course, virtually everybody does everything for self-interested reasons. That is why I am looking for needles in haystacks. I found another needle in Brian O, but I was the only person at NEM who had gone through the FE meat grinder, and I still am. When I have seen recent NEM-ish efforts out there, they are full of naïve scientists, engineers, inventors and others, none of whom have been through the meat grinder, and it shows. Anybody who thinks that some tinkering inventor, applying for patents and trying to raise money, has a snowball’s chance in hell of making FE happen, simply does not have any high-level experience in the field. Only a fool like Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

had any business trying that route, and every time I see somebody advocate a “grass roots” tinkerer revolution, or trying to scale the ramparts with a bunch of newbies whose armor does not even have a scratch on it, I really don’t want to watch. But that naïve path of tinkering inventors, patents, working in garages, has worn a deep rut that leads straight into Godzilla’s maw, if they even make it that far and are not taken out by the lower-level predators and the allies, who all get gold fever:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

Most never get ten feet along that path before they are taken out, usually by falling on their sword. At Avalon, I have found that very, very few people really understand what I am writing about here. Ilie gets a lot of it, as do some others, but my approach entails throwing away nearly everything that people think about how the word works. People who get caught up in conspiracism do not understand how the world really works. Godzilla is a small part of the problem. The problem is the great herd of humanity that operates from self-interest above all else. So it is, in a world of scarcity, and that is the crux of the FE conundrum. Of course, nobody wants to admit it, because it says unsavory things about our species, but until we grapple with the truth and accept it, we are going nowhere but to oblivion.

My recent writings about Soto are an example.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=582331&viewfull=1#post582331

What an evil enterprise his North American invasion was, totally inspired by greed and the desire to conquer and subjugate people that he had never met (and it turned out, did not even exist). But all over America’s Southeast, chambers of commerce vie for the “honor” of having their town be on the route of his invasion, as he brought “civilization” to North America. How crazy and stupid is that? That is the ego at work. The ego is really pretty stupid, when you get down to it, like a two-year-old child in his terrible twosies. Self-interest at the expense of everything else is the path to self-extermination, but is humanity’s predominant thrust today, as it has always been. That is thinking like a victim, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with “intelligence,” but fear.

Similarly, anybody with any gumption can prove to themselves that they have psychic ability. Going to channels and digesting mystical literature is a fairly worthless exercise if the person has not had any mystical experiences of their own. That is one reason why the “skeptics” treat mystical ability like the enemy, and they let their brains dribble right out of their ears when faced with evidence of the paranormal:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=571831&viewfull=1#post571831

and those are supposedly “smart” people, with Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov in their ranks. Michael Roads said it well in an interview that he gave not long ago;

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=309392&viewfull=1#post309392

intellect and intelligence are not the same thing, and I heartily agree. All of that IQ stuff and genius is about the intellect. That is but one aspect of intelligence. I don’t dismiss it by any means, but it is only one facet of intelligence. The scientific stuff that I have been posting to this thread, especially on my human journey posts the past several months, requires some mental horsepower to truly comprehend, and my folly may be thinking that it takes less than it really does. I have had well-meaning scientists tell me that in order to become a comprehensivist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

people need to be able to hold the important parts in their heads so that they see the big picture. That is also called being a systems thinker. Unless people can become systems thinkers, they tend to get lost in the trees, never seeing the forest. That is where “intellect” comes into play. That is why I keep saying that if we are going to see the big picture, we need to do the work. While the heart is key, using our sentience to see the big picture is the primary thrust of my work. I will be making more posts in this subject. As Ilie says, science and technology done right is relatively easy. Science and math are not that easy, not really, but it is true that scientists have unnecessarily made much of what it does obscure and kind of like the new priesthood. And scientists can be the most irrational of all when they encounter evidence that shatters their paradigm. Dismissing my life’s experiences and those of people close to me as a “conspiracy theory” is a highly irrational act, but is perhaps the most common one that I receive from “smart” people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive

as they defend their religiously-held worldview. True knowledge comes from experience. It is that simple.

Time to rush off to work.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
13th November 2012, 19:20
Hi Wade,

Thank you for your posts, as always there is so much to learn from them. It seems that the admiration for Columbus, Serra and other North America 'invasions tyrants' and their perpetuation as a positive human beings in history is part of the dual climate prevailing on earth, it is one against another, 'either or', 'they or us'. it is the language that is so wide spread, the language of scarcity, of ' not having enough', that any other reality of co-existing and 'there is more than enough' is so out of reach of the average human beings mind.

Mystical experiences are probably not at all 'mystical', they are simply some 'tapping' into the broad reality around us. taking the blindfolds from the horses sides and he will be able to see a much larger view than he used to, put it back, and the view is becoming limited again. Funny that science does'nt in general think along these lines. everything has perfectly good explanation, just not one that can be explained yet with our limited tools, but almost nothing (that happens), can be rejected or invalidated on the basis of 'not understanding it, therefore, it does not exist'. This is not a sign for inteligence of a society. curiosity and the willing to delve deep into the unknown is more of a sign of using our cell brains and even streching it a bit further.

On the other hand, studies such as this:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121026-human-cooking-evolution-raw-food-health-science/

"According to a new study, a surge in human brain size that occurred roughly 1.8 million years ago can be directly linked to the innovation of cooking"

"Did you eat a hot meal today? It's a smart thing to do, as our ancestors learned"

Can lead to another study case - "why some people would like to rip the hair out of their heads in distrust?" - I am willing to volunteer to be a guinea pig, alas, they will not accept a brain shrinks raw foodist like myself. Shame.

Melinda
13th November 2012, 20:11
...When faced with his own report, that young engineer had to admit the “impossible.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#testify

That is an example of somebody not being able to think past their textbooks...

...Michael Roads said it well in an interview that he gave not long ago;

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=309392&viewfull=1#post309392

intellect and intelligence are not the same thing, and I heartily agree.

Your post inspired a few thoughts Wade, so I thought I might share them.

When we hear the word ‘materialistic’ we often associate it with someone who places high value on acquiring and owning physical things. But exactly the same attitude can manifest itself with intellect, whereby instead of feeling special or superior because of the physical things we own, we feel it because of the ideas we have. It’s a kind of intellectual materialism, where we feel our mental prowess defines us and we cling to it fearfully, polishing our clever ideas in a corner of our mind much like a proud car owner polishes their vehicle in the temple of their garage. It’s very easy to behave this way and believe we are not being materialistic, when all we are really doing is transferring our competitive, fear-based materialism from the physical world to the mental.

A young medical doctor who was involved in the research end of the business once told me that you didn’t even need to get to the level or conspiracy theories to see why progress was as slow as it was in her field of science. She said she’d witnessed first hand how people in positions of power in her immediate world would, without hesitation, dismiss and bury new theories or solutions, simply because if they validated them it would invalidate their own work; work they had possibly spent years being admired for, whilst reaping the accompanying rewards.

We are programmed to be our own worst enemies, and reprogramming ourselves so we can change that is one of the reasons why I enjoy reading this thread and other relevant, related sources. Sometimes I can think I know something about a solution already, but by immersing myself in it and engaging with it more regularly it can sink in more, to a point where I begin to see something new in it.

One of the things that frequently baffles me is when people brush something under the carpet, often mockingly, by saying it’s ‘not scientifically proven’. The way I see it, if I wish to practice an attitude that genuinely honours science, one of the first things I can do is study its history. In doing so, it doesn’t take long to realise that many of the ideas that are now ‘text-book’ were first proposed by scientists who were mocked and suppressed (or worse) by their contemporaries. It seems logical then that in order to really honour science and what it has given us, I need to respect the scientific method, whilst simultaneously respecting the potential of the imagination and what is not yet proven. As with all things in life, finding a balance is key.

At the start of a lecture he gave some years ago, looking at monatomic elements, Sir Lawrence Gardner said:
“Science is in an interesting period right now. It’s actually got to a stage where it’s moving at a truly incredible rate. I mean never before do I remember day to day discoveries. Week to week was something, month to month was pretty average, but day to day now science is changing. Scientists say there’s nothing that we’re working on that seems to follow the rules and the laws that we were dealing with yesterday. New things are coming. So even the most notable researchers and scientists and writers in the mainstream front line are now sounding more like science fiction writers used to. And their work and their discoveries is in fact seeming a little preposterous to that breed of people whose vision is constrained perhaps by what they perceive to be the limits of plausible achievement. The people who feel that it was all learned, done and dusted, with passing that last exam.”
http://youtu.be/B9oAXPqPWog

In the advancing world he describes, an open mind and a generous heart seem more useful than ever.

I found it a really interesting, and enjoyable lecture. At around 37 minutes in he describes a process that took place to investigate the constituents of a mysterious substance, and the benefits of scientists pooling their knowledge / resources to investigate successfully. Collaboration proved to be the key to their success :)

Ilie Pandia
13th November 2012, 22:18
Interesting to learn and notice that other people see things in a different way than you do...

It makes me wonder how much do I actually perceive something and how much I am slave to some deeply rooted conditioning (like scarcity) that I am not being aware of.

It seems the onion still has more layers to peel off :). (and in the center of it may still be yet another onion, sigh..)

@Melinda: very interesting point about intellectual materialism and the trap of closing your mind to new ideas because of the effort and time invested in the old ones.

@Wade: if your task consists of try to show us that everything we think we know is actually wrong... and what we are "seeing" is not actually there... then you got yourself one huge task :).

And one final word about "IQ". This is also a highly charged concept. Personally, I am not very convinced by the meaning and actual measurement of the IQ thing. Most tests I've seen seem to measure your integration level into a system of thought and not so much so "how intelligent you are". The IQ is sometimes used as a label to limit some people and prop the ego of others. My belief is that what one man can do, I can do too! Of course, it may take me longer to learn that skill if I have no talent in it, but I don't consider it to be impossible or completely out of reach. (This may be a faulty belief, but so far it has served me well :)).

I consider myself fairly intelligent, but I do sometimes act in very stupid ways. Looking back at those times I notice that it was because of fear or some other conditioning that got triggered. This leads me to conclude that in an abundance world, what we think of as "intelligence" will develop so much (not being blocked by fear any longer) that on the new "IQ scale" our today's geniuses might score in the "idiot-range" :p

Wade Frazier
14th November 2012, 05:47
Hi:

Great posts, people. I don’t have the time to respond to all of that brilliance that you put out there today, but briefly…

Ah, Ilie, as I stated, knowledge comes from experience; the seeing, the touching, the being there when things are happening, making things happen. Most of what people think they “know” is not knowing at all, but believing something they were told. I am big into people getting out of their easy chairs and going and finding out. That is why I encourage people to go get some mystical experiences under their belt. That is why I encourage people to watch UFOs light up on request, if they have any doubt about the phenomenon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

Traveling thousands of miles to go swimming with wild dolphins:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=512090&viewfull=1#post512090

chasing Dennis across a continent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

chasing my dreams, chasing women ( :) ), going where that damn voice suggested I go – those are all experiences that gave me knowledge, not some belief because somebody told me so. All of the dominant ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

fall apart on scrutiny, because they are really built on faith, not knowledge, and were designed to serve those who made up the belief system, and they all have carrots and sticks to attract and retain their adherents, but none of them really encourage the believers to go find out for themselves, but to take some “authority’s” word for it. Some of my learning experience were truly life-threatening, and I do not encourage people to go chasing after the white bunny of FE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

but I do give people plenty to chew on in that milieu, but I have yet to ever encounter anybody who obtained one of Dennis’s books, the two best being written in his cells, so people really can’t be that eager to begin finding out how it works. So, I do what I do.

On “intelligence” and IQs, they have their place, but they are not the be all, end all, that is for sure. But you can’t fake math. You can’t build a bridge unless you know what you are doing. The Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQs of any ethnic group on Earth, and are ten times overrepresented for getting Nobel Prizes, for instance:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543124&highlight=Ashkenazi#post543124

and it likely was due to hundreds of years in those soon-to-be-obsolete professions, accounting and business management (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=583327&viewfull=1#post583327 ), where they had to play the abstract thinking game every day.

Briefly, Limor, that cooking article is more verification of Wrangham’s thesis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

Evolution happens. The brains of our distant ancestors grew tremendously, and many biological changes attended the rise of humans. Our tools made us, in very real ways.

Melinda, my upcoming essay will make my energy essay largely obsolete, but this part will survive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#real

which I may not be able to improve upon much.

All three of you made points that I could spend a day or two responding to, and I will make better responses soon, but I have been summoned to bed. :)

Best,

Wade

mosquito
14th November 2012, 05:54
Well said Ilie !

What you and Melinda are saying is not dissimilar to what I wrote on the other thread, about how intellectual arrogance will become a thing of the past (hopefully) with FE, as we will have evolved to a point where knowledge isn't denied to anyone for any reason, and education will be all-encompassing and holistic.

In order for us to reach that state of heart centred sentience, we all need to be ready and willing to say goodbye to our long-held, cherished, comforting beliefs; about ourselves and our world.

Wade Frazier
14th November 2012, 15:20
Hi:

I have a little time before I run off to work. Yes, Limor, the scarcity mindset is probably the most deeply baked one that humanity has. It took me many years to really understand what I was seeing with all the FE denial, or if it was not denial, it became the focus of greed, delusions of grandeur, and so on.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

That universal scarcity mindset is also a universal fear mindset, and is why personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

These are all facets of the scarcity issue, and the fear really overrides people’s brains, so that they can seem really, really stupid, but what they are really doing is protecting the niche of hell that they staked out for themselves. Those who are willing to explore beyond that, in the quest for abundance, are the needles in haystacks that I refer to. They will operate from personal integrity, they will be willing to relinquish their beliefs and go find out for themselves, and they will do it so that everybody can ultimately benefit from it. In brief, they operate from love, not fear, so they are thinking like creators, not victims. That is why I always say that it begins in the heart.

Yes, “mystical” experiences were likely not considered to be so “mystical” long ago. In our age of materialism, however, it is something different. It is likely regaining abilities that came to us very naturally long ago.

Yes, Melinda, what you noted on the medical front is exactly what I say on the FE front: we do most of Godzilla’s work for him. Godzilla really does not have any power, other than what the masses have given him by abdicating responsibility for their lives. I have written at length about the medical racket and why it operates like it does:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system

I have not gone much into the personal irony for me of those days in the 1980s, but it could get so far over the top that it was like a black comedy. I left Southern California two times previously, saying that I never wanted to live there again, to only have Dennis move the company back to Southern California, only a little over a year since I escaped it. When Dennis was in jail and my life was being destroyed, I ended up having to get work in LA again! Driving to LA every day back then is like a bad dream, as I think back on it. And I got a job in a medical lab, to have the medical gangsters try to shut it down right after I started work there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

It was like that voice in my head was rubbing it in. Today, it would take five teams of wild horses to drag me back to Southern California. After I moved to Ohio and began the research that became my work today, I studied the medical racket more than any other racket:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm

The rackets all operate in similar fashion, and the masses always do most of the work for the racketeers, as they imprison their own minds. That resistance to anything new by people in the medical establishment is common to anybody with “education.” It is that way in all areas of formal learning:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded

and the more the paradigm supports a racket, the deeper the indoctrination goes. And because of the carrots that the “smart” get, they indeed polish their intellectual egos to where they are all nice and shiny, and they end up saying the stupidest things that I ever heard. There is an arsenal of irrational responses that people have stocked up as their defense to anything that rocks the boat. People like Carl Sagan said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What a canard. That was Carl playing pseudoscientific high priest of the establishment, not being a scientist interested in exploring the unknown:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

Another one I just encountered for the zillionth time. Back in the 1990s, Steven Greer lined up several hundred witnesses to testify about the UFO issue. Most were from the military. He was able to mount congressional hearings, and Ed Mitchell co-chaired the hearings. Those hearings cost several people their lives, and Greer was never the same:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

Several astronauts have gone public on the UFO issue, including Brian O, which almost cost him his life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

The knee-jerk response by “smart” people to the UFO cover-up is that something that big cannot be covered up. People will talk, so therefore there cannot be a UFO cover-up. When I respond that several hundred people have talked and want to have a safe public forum where they can talk all day long about what they know, those UFO deniers then want to change the subject. I had that happen just the other day. How rational is that?

I call what you are referring to as the rationalist-materialist paradigm, and it dominates scientific thinking. That paradigm began forming in the West about a thousand years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

so it is deeply ingrained.

As Bucky Fuller said, specialization in science was a ruling class tactic to keep scientists in the dark, never seeing the big picture:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

Multi-disciplinary efforts are now becoming very common in science and academia, and Godzilla is having a hard time keeping the lid on everything. As long as the rationalist-materialist paradigm stays in place, he has the upper hand, but once scientists start having mystical experiences, it will be game over for Godzilla, and he knows it.

Time for work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
15th November 2012, 04:52
Hi:

Only a few minutes before I hit the hay, but in this reality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

the human potential has been tapped in ways that very people today can even believe is possible, but it lies only 300 years into our future, at least for those who choose love. The average six-year-old in that reality has more knowledge about the human body and how to be healthy than anybody alive on Earth today. If they took our IQ tests, they would score off the scale. So, calling them “geniuses” is selling them short. Their mental horsepower dwarfs everything that lives on the planet today. With the heart in charge, everybody gets a whole lot smarter, and when fear reigns, everybody gets a whole lot dumber. While writing this, I was inspired to go get a book that I have not looked at since the 1990s, ET 101, to get a juicy quote that stood out in my mind. It reads:


“We have noticed that your idea of intelligence and our idea of intelligence have very little to do with one another. For instance, you call yourself an intelligent species, yet you are dangerously close to making your planet uninhabitable by anything other than asphalt. You have also managed to place yourselves at the top of the endangered species list. May we point out that a virus demonstrates a more astute grasp of its situation than that. The only reason a virus is inclined to trash its environment is in its well-calculated attempt to maintain its life.

“We have noticed that you use the word ‘smart’ in conjunction with business swindles and corrupt deals. When somebody sells property that is located on a quicksand bog, you say, ‘Boy, was that a smart move!’ You also think it is incredibly clever to sell a used car for top dollar without mentioning that it has no transmission. Both these examples are trumped-up illustrations that lack the malignancy of your actual activities. Your governments, your corporations, and your citizenry commit mind-boggling atrocities in the name of material cunning, and all human commerce is riddled with spiritual scandal. Moreover, though such acts may technically be fraud according to your laws, fraud is only an issue if you have the misfortune of getting caught. Otherwise, these acts remain shrewd business moves, the products of brilliant minds.”


ET 101 is perhaps the funniest channeled book that I ever read. They offer up their own definition of intelligence:


“A brain is an instrument of intelligence, while intelligence is a force. Intelligence is the force of life expressing itself in created form. It exists in all life, whether it has a brain or not.”


They finish the section with:


“Our purpose here on this planet is to assist in freeing you from denial so that you can finally begin to think straight. It is our mandate as well as our longing to help raise you out of your deranged thought process up to the status of a truly intelligent life form.”


Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
15th November 2012, 08:52
Hi

Wade, thank you for the booklet suggestion (45 pages long) :) Sounds charming :) Since there is no tangible copy available for purchase in my country i let myself search the internet for it. Had found illegal version of it. Illie has found legitimate copy available for purchase and download here:
http://et101.net/shop.html

[edit]
Shame on me :o
I have replaced direct link to the PDF with the link to the store ;)

Wade Frazier
15th November 2012, 16:17
Hi:

I was not suggesting that anybody go out and find ET 101, but you are a resourceful bunch. I read it in the early 1990s. Reading it is a fond memory.

ET 101 discusses the difference between walk-ins and crawl-ins. Most of us crawl in as babies. :) At the end was a questionnaire for those on the mission of awakening humanity, and whenever I hear about Wilton, Connecticut, I still think back to the questionnaire answer:

“I live in Wilton, Connecticut, and have mistaken my portfolio for my identity. Is there any possibility of me and my portfolio being restationed at this point?”

After that is the one that I remember best:

“This mission is a piece of cake. Where to next, big guys? (Be advised that if you check this box, further questioning may be necessary.)”

I am not sure that I would buy the other stuff that that site hawks.

Right now I am reading Pan’s Travail by J. Donald Hughes, on the impacts of the Greek and Roman civilizations on the Mediterranean environments. It was an early work in his career on such subject matter, but has become kind of a standard reference in the field. I also have his An Environmental History of the World, which is similar to Ponting’s A Green History of the World.

While such efforts often get criticized for not having ultra-scholarly detachment, I am not aware of better efforts out there.

In a way, this stuff is really not hard to understand. Life on Earth is powered by the sun, plain and simple. Where there is enough solar energy and raw materials, mainly water, fixed nitrogen and some other elements (phosphorus and traces of some metals), plants can grow, and the animals that feed on them. I covered a lot of this when I began this series of posts in July:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=520372&viewfull=1#post520372

The sun’s output seems to have been very steady for billions of years, and it has been slowly increasing. The ice ages, for instance, have had little or nothing to do with the sun’s output, but variations in Earth’s orbit, its atmospheric gases, and the placement of its land masses. During the Little Ice Age that ended only in the nineteenth century, the sun’s output only fluctuated by about one-tenth of one-percent, about like we see in my lifetime:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Solar-cycle-data.png

Only so much of the sun’s energy hits Earth, and about one twentieth of one percent gets captured by photosynthesis, and that is what powers the ecosphere. Far less than one percent of that captured solar energy ended up being preserved in what we call fossil fuels. Before fossil fuels were tapped, the chemical energy available to humanity in the form of food was that of the current growing season for the most part. Harvesting fruit trees and harvesting the trees themselves widened the horizon of energy use, reaching back a hundred years or more of growing seasons as trees were felled.

But forests are the primary creators of topsoil, and they created the environment that pretty much all land life evolved in. Forests turned the deserts of the land masses into ecosystems. When the forests were razed for the energy resources that they provided, it also led to the destruction of the forest ecosystems, not only the canopy, but the soils also stopped forming and exposed soils quickly erode away, blown and washed away, eventually exposing the bedrock, especially on slopes. That lost canopy, soils, and ecosystem was also a big sponge that retained the rainfall. It really is a simple dynamic. The Mediterranean basin is surrounded by mountain ranges, with very little flat land, anywhere.

The two earliest civilizations were in Mesopotamia and Egypt, both taking advantage of river valleys in desert regions. While the people of Mesopotamian civilizations had legends where nature was treated like the enemy to be subdued:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=554340&highlight=gilgamesh#post554340

the Egyptians had more of a worshipful relationship to nature, and their civilizations were more rural than the city-states that came to dominate Mesopotamian civilizations.

Nevertheless, anyplace where humans built their civilizations, nature was necessarily put into service for human benefit. Before humans began civilizing the Nile River, there was a lush forest in the Nile valley, inhabited by lions, elephants, rhinoceroses, giraffes, huge aviaries of astonishing diversity, and the like. The civilizations of Egypt wiped all of that out over the millennia, making way for agriculture. Even the silt that fertilized the Egyptian fields during the annual flood was significantly the result of deforestation and erosion in the highlands that fed the Nile. And Egyptians were the nature worshippers.

The civilizations of Mesopotamia and Egypt both influenced the Greeks (and the many others that sprouted up over the millennia in the region), and the Romans in their turn. While the Greeks and Romans had plenty of nature worship early in their civilizations, the demands of economic growth, which always came at the expense of the ecosystems, where all the chemical energy came from, food most importantly, meant that the ecosystems had to be brought to heel. The result, especially on the hilly lands where Rome and Greece were, resulted in erosion and desertification. In Hughes’ Pan’s Travail, he remarked on his first visit to Greece, where the rocky slopes of Mount Hymettus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hymettus.JPG ) could be seen from the Parthenon. Plato described the deforestation of that mountain in the fourth century B.C. It remained a denuded rock until my lifetime, when the Greek government decided to reforest it. But the soils were almost totally gone, and they literally had to dynamite holes in the limestone in order to plant the pine tree seedlings.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
15th November 2012, 17:57
Hello Wade,


Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "Evolution happens. The brains of our distant ancestors grew tremendously, and many biological changes attended the rise of humans. Our tools made us, in very real ways. "


I hope it is o.k to keep digging on the Wrangham’s thesis issue (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking). I understand that the discovery of firemaking and cooking food has led to the evolutionary upgrade from Homo erectus to Homo Sapiens by contributing to brain enlargment, but the final conclusion from that National Geographic link (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121026-human-cooking-evolution-raw-food-health-science/)as if raw food is equivalent to a developmental regression does'nt sound right to me :)

Are you willing to expand a little more on that?


Re: ET101 instruction manual

Your above 'Wilton, Connecticut questionnaire' made me laugh so hard. I remember this book 'falling into my lap' from off the shelf at the bookstore in 2006, it was lying on a pile of books and really stood out (it winked at me), I had to touch it, and than I read the cover.. and took it home. I never found another Copy in Hebrew or in English anywhere. I lent this one to a friend, since it was also suited for him, but copied it, so I still have it somewhere. A funny funny book. I am not willing to be recruited to almost any task after doing my mandatory military service, but the one which is described there, I am more than willing (and to FE of course!) to do, or maybe, it is guaranteed that we all already are recruited?

While writing this post, I hear explosions from somewhere, not too close, apparently, two rockets were fired to the Tel Aviv area, the complete idiotism of the 'war games'.

I think I will apply to the questionnaire -

“I live in Kiriat-ono, Israel, and have mistaken my portfolio for my identity. Is there any possibility of me and my portfolio being restationed at this point?” ;)

But to be honest, I already applied in the past, and received a refusal. I think we are all stationed where we need to be.

Enjoy your reading, Robert! Thanks Wade!

sandy
15th November 2012, 18:57
Dear Limor,

Love your posts and just have to say my heart goes out to you. Only those who experience this daily trauma can understand fully the impact on one's mind and soul. I Love You Sister>>>>Stay Safe

Limor Wolf
15th November 2012, 20:24
Dear Sandy ~

Thank you so much, I am fine and not in the center of things. I think that you too can understand the harm and the trauma because your heart is so open and wide, and you can connect to others feelings ~

Tonight is not going to be a good night for the people in Gaza, and It was not a good day for some people in Israel, but that is the everyday events of so many places around the world. can we begin to imagine what is going on in Afganistan, in Iraq, in Syria, in Africa?

Our world can use some Anti gravity, Zero point energy, healing devices, time reversed wave technology, and a little bit of peace and harmony in our hearts. Wade always say, and it is so easy to believe him, that love is the predominant force that changes the world, love is the begginning and the botom line of everything, as well as the middle.

Love is a missing link for some, but if they may feel it only once, there might not be going back afterwards.

CdnSirian
16th November 2012, 03:42
Dear Limor,

Love your posts and just have to say my heart goes out to you. Only those who experience this daily trauma can understand fully the impact on one's mind and soul. I Love You Sister>>>>Stay Safe

Ditto! So sorry little time on here right now to say more. (Thanks Sandy).

Wade Frazier
16th November 2012, 04:49
Hi Limor:

So sorry to hear about the troubles in your neighborhood today. It was all over the news here. If it was up to me to reassign you to easier duty, I would. But, as you know, we usually have to stick it out where we are, whatever the cosmic reasons are. Scotty can beam me up any day, but he hasn’t yet. :)

On raw versus cooked food, that is a big subject. Wrangham’s hypothesis is that cooking provided an evolutionary advantage, as it allowed proto-humans to get more net calories out of food, and it is hard to argue against that advantage. The human digestive system shrank, and less energy was needed to digest food. On the evolutionary front, the important years are those it takes to grow up, reproduce, and successfully raise the next generation. Before industrialization, that was accomplished by age forty, so the degenerative effects of cooking and preserved food, which generally do not become deadly until after age forty, did not really impact humanity’s evolutionary fitness. The energy boost that cooking afforded humans was an evolutionary advantage.

Even the people in this reality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

probably cooked their grain-based food. I agree that most food should be eaten raw, but there has yet to be a culture that could eat all raw food – it is hard to get all the needed calories that way. When I went vegan when I was twenty, I was pretty much a raw food eater, and I lost fifteen pounds. It was also the healthiest that I ever was.

With an FE economy, I am sure that people could do the raw food thing successfully, as the abundance of high-energy raw foods would be far higher than they are today, even in a rich place like the USA. We shop for our groceries at one of the premier stores on Earth:

http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/locations/rd.html

but it would still be a challenge to do total raw foods.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
16th November 2012, 11:07
Hi

Limor, i wish this conflict could end immediately... And have heard that Israeli army is mobilizing reservists :( This is looking bad...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162103#.UKYeHIeIWEE

Wade mentioned grandmothers could guard peace. I would suggest including all women. You have something that every male craves for... and can be denied if not behaving properly ;) There were some successful initiatives like that around the World to curb violence:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/guns-none-toronto-woman-encourages-gang-members-girlfriends-170856445.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_strike

I wonder if that would force "leaders" (or rather bullies) at both sides to get their grip:confused:

I realize that this is an ordinary kind of love and not The Unconditional Love we all long for...

Wade Frazier
16th November 2012, 15:25
Hi:

As Fuller said, scarcity is the driving force behind all soldiers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

Eliminate scarcity, and the motivation behind wars and coercion disappears. But eliminating scarcity is the hard part, and keeping our eye on the ball is not easy in our world. Many times in my career, I have watched companies lurch from crisis to crisis, never really putting in the infrastructure to weather the storms, and I watched preventable disasters take down entire companies, the kind that employed thousands of people. The attitude that I have seen all too often is: “I am too busy bailing the boat to patch the hull.” It is a cousin to an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure.

The collective effort needed to make FE happen is miniscule, on a global level, but humanity has not been able to muster sufficient integrity and awareness so far. Humanity’s problem is like ET 101 said.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=583961&viewfull=1#post583961

As a species, we are still learning to become sentient.

Back to the Mediterranean. The Mediterranean is like a big lake, largely cut off from the world’s oceans. The ice sheets never made it to the Mediterranean during the glacial periods of this ice age. Northern Europe was scoured, and partly for that reason, it does not have the diversity of species that the Mediterranean did. Again, much of what we see in the Mediterranean and Fertile Crescent today is not natural, but due to the impact of humans. Several thousand years ago, on the islands of the Mediterranean, elephants and hippopotami once lived. They became part of the megafauna extinction epidemic that followed humans wherever they appeared in the past 50,000 years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

They comprised the easy meat that sustained the golden age of the hunter-gatherer. But even in historical times, the changes that humanity has inflicted on that part of the world can boggle the minds of modern observers. Not only were hippos, elephants, giraffes, and zebras living in Northern Africa before the rise of civilization, but lions roamed Greece and Syria as late as two thousand years ago. Those disappearances were noted by contemporary writers. Those extinctions accompanied the rise of civilization, but greatly accelerated with the empire-building that the various civilizations did around the Mediterranean periphery, with Rome reaching levels of devastation that were not seen again until modern times. Whales were extinct in the Mediterranean by 500 AD:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

In northern Africa, there was an elephant that was smaller than the Asian elephant, and both species were captured and put to many uses, including war animals, and elephant “cavalries” were common battleground troops in those days. The Romans also used those elephants in the arenas to entertain the masses. Those elephants went extinct long ago, as did many other species. Tigers roamed Armenia, but went extinct, largely to supply the Roman arenas. With the indescribable things that humans were put through to entertain the masses:

http://authormichaelprescott.blogspot.com/2005/02/bread-and-circuses.html

http://www.roman-colosseum.info/colosseum/wild-animals-at-the-colosseum.htm

animals going extinct were minor footnotes of the era. But what may be more startling to modern observers is the drastic change in the climate and vegetation, which was also remarked on by astute contemporary observers. Where I live, I sometimes encounter bears when I hike, and once a cub ran across the path in front of me and climbed a tree in terror, and I was between the mother and her cub – not a great place to be, and my friend and I backed up to allow the mother and cub to escape. But bears are rarely encountered in the lowlands. That is not because bears naturally prefer mountains, but because humans have driven them there, as their last refuge.

Right in the middle of all that “civilizing” engaged in by the Mediterranean cultures was a mountain range that was too rugged to rape and plunder, the Rhodope Mountains:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodope_Mountains

Back in the 1970s, Greece set aside about two square miles of the Rhodopes as a national park, and people can get a glimpse of what their part of the world looked like long ago. Firs, spruce, eagles, lynx, bears, and wolves still call that little unsullied corner of the Mediterranean periphery home. Parts of the Rhodopes could be confused with the Cascades.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
16th November 2012, 22:07
The days of Rome were the most ugly business. who would have thought that today we are much more moral than in (some) earlier periods. Apparantly Christianity has put a stop to the arena games, so maybe we need another new religion to save our morality.. However, a saying by Blaize Pascal goes like this: " Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from religious conviction." and judging by the spanish inquisition period there is some truth in this phrase.

Wade's historic reviews makes me think that scarcity and low morality go hand in hand... it is known that at times of shortage, human behaviour changes to that of a survival mode, it sounds like the days of Rome - 'kill or be killed' Stems from the culture of war, robbing and looting. wars seems to be the result of 'lack', whether it's security, resources, soil etc. but looking at our world, it seems there is still yet a long way to go.

When Free energy will be out an about, those things will be left to be part of our ancient and not very respected history, then we will know that we have moved an important step in human evolution, and all the Zebras, elephants, hippos and giraffes will feel safe enough to walk this land with the most dangerous and most feared predator on earth, The man.


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Originally posted by Robert j. neiwiadomski : "i wish this conflict could end immediately... And have heard that Israeli army is mobilizing reservists"

Robert, yes, they began to enroll about 75 000 reservists this evening. when scarcity is such a defining part of our society it is easy to get people out to fight each other, such is the delusion.



Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " So sorry to hear about the troubles in your neighborhood today. It was all over the news here. If it was up to me to reassign you to easier duty, I would. But, as you know, we usually have to stick it out where we are, whatever the cosmic reasons are. Scotty can beam me up any day, but he hasn’t yet."

Thank you Wade, for your kind intention :) yes, I know.. I think the hardest part is already in the past where my conscious mind thought that this world is the only option there is, yet, the subconscious knew something else.. I fell into two years of severe depression, a period of time of mental anguish that I would not wish upon anyone else, ever. Today, the abundance of options available to us makes me happy and I would not wish to exit earth.


But, I assume that the places you got in your own very incredible journey has made you wish for scotty's beam to come and pick you up.

Have you tried doug and Tony's time tunnel? :)


Good night,

Limor

Wade Frazier
17th November 2012, 04:19
Hi:

A few things…

I don’t surf Avalon, or any forums. Not anymore. My plate is overflowing as it is. But on this thread, links to others show up at the bottom, and sometimes I take those. In the past couple of days, I saw these ones:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52050-A-Free-Energy-Cooperative-funded-by-the-crowd

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52083-How-Each-Of-Us-Envisages-a-Future-Earth.

Familiar themes. :) I’ll stay far away from them, and I see that Ilie is earning his stripes in them. I would like to make a point, however, that is all too easy to overlook. The term “power” is a concept from physics, which is energy utilized over a period of time. When a rocket takes off, it is expending a vast amount of power in a very controlled fashion. Without that focused energy release, the rocket is going nowhere. That works for burning gasoline in cars, for putting food in your body, clear down to how chlorophyll captures photon energy. Without energy, nothing moves, nothing happens. All the intention in the world is impotent without the energy behind it. Today, I can lay down a credit card and travel all the way around the world in a few days. Five hundred years ago, a trip around the world was not possible for anybody on Earth at any price. The industrial era’s harnessing of hydrocarbon energy put power at my fingertips that simply was not available five hundred years ago.

The planet is not going to be cleaned up, people lifted out of poverty, and so on, unless the energetic means to do so exists. Money does not mean a damned thing toward that end. Money is an illusion. I can prate all day long about how burning fossil fuels is bad for the planet in many ways, or how many hungry mouths to feed were born to poor parents as I wrote this sentence, but unless I have a way to replace hydrocarbon fuels, a way to put the power in people’s hands to act, it is all just talk. Power, in the political sense, is getting others to do your bidding, but unless you can command the physical power behind all economics, nobody gets anything done. Shuffling money around only buys a person’s effort at best. That is all that money does. But if people are not empowered, as in having energy to power their actions, that money does not buy much. Stick a well-intended person down naked on an iceberg, and he will not get much work done. It is only when placing a person in a directed energy/technology complex that he can get things done, and it does not matter if he is a farmer or an astronaut. Without the energy that went into the system that produced the agricultural surplus that fed the people who made the components of the computer I am working on, and the energy that moved that food from farm to belly, with the many exchanges and transformations along the way, without the oil that powered the bus that drove me home from the office, without the energy that runs my home and the Internet that is bringing these words to you, I would not be getting much done with this choir-building exercise. Everybody reading these words, to one degree or another, is riding on the back of that energy/technology complex that makes the Internet and the ability to use it possible.

On another note….

My life has become something of a public property over the years, and this thread in particular is how I am interfacing with the (quasi)-public these days. My mother passed away this morning. I have written about her dementia on this thread, and her passing was not too traumatic on the mental front – she largely left years ago. I have written about how my journey estranged me from her for years:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=579023&viewfull=1#post579023

On the scale of events that I was dealing with, her betrayal was not such a big thing, but our relationship was never the same. I brought her together with her family in the past several years of her life, and for the last time just last year, and I am happy that I did. I financially supported the operation to take care of my mother for several years, and it is what sons do. I prayed today for the swift journey of her soul back home, and was thinking of the blessings that I received from her. Today, I was put in the position of trying to prevent a violent confrontation (unrelated to my mother’s death), and as I waited for somebody to arrive, hoping that they were not armed (not my favorite way to spend my time), I thought of how the way I was raised had left me pretty free of the childhood traumas that mess so many people up for life. My memories of my mother while young was of a mother who loved and cared for me. All children should have that experience, but in a world of scarcity, such experiences are not as common as they should be. I had the good fortune to be born during the biggest economic boom in world history. The American standard of living is nowhere near what it was in the 1960s, when mothers stayed home and raised the brood while the father worked a forty-hour-per-week job and comfortably supported the family. Those days are long gone in the USA. I got free college, which is mind-boggling to today’s American college-bound.

My mother had my father talk me out of attending the Air Force Academy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

and she insisted on sending me to Europe when I was sixteen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

My blond hair (now graying :) ), blue eyes, and Nordic build are all thanks to my mother, as is my relatively placid emotional make-up. If I had not had the grounding and nurturing from my parents, I may not have turned into that over-grown Boy Scout who wanted to help heal the planet (although the ride has been anything but easy). And for that, I can only be grateful. Yes, the TV, the tabloids, and other stuff was less than salutary, but, all-in-all, it was a good deal that I got from being my mother’s son.

My brother did the caretaking of my mother for the last several years of her life, and he said that she constantly watched 1960s TV series such as Mayberry R.F.D. There is an American mythology of that era that is largely false:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#ozzie

but many American housewives tried to live the mythos, and my mother dreamed about those days in her last years. It was the best time of her life, when she was at the top of her game, raising children. And that was a good thing. In more ways than one, if not for my mother, I would not be writing these words. Attached is a picture from my mother’s golden days. I am on the right, about five years old, about a year before my mother became pregnant with her third son and my father was recruited into the Space Race:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

They were good years.

Best,

Wade

sandy
17th November 2012, 04:40
Hi Wade,

You sure do look like your Mom :)

Sorry for your loss and I pray that your wonderful memories will continue to sustain you through this time and in the days ahead. I'll be holding you and all those you love in my heart :hug:

Wade Frazier
17th November 2012, 05:22
Hi Sandy:

Thanks for the thoughts. Yes, people thought that I looked like my father, until they met my mother.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
17th November 2012, 06:56
Hi Wade, I am sorry to hear about your loss, it sounds like your mother has chose to focus in other dimansions of reality a while ago and simply moved there completely today. You got the gift of a supportive mother at childhood, this is more than many others could wish for and it feels like you really cherish these moments. You and family are in my thoughts.

CdnSirian
17th November 2012, 09:04
Wade thank you for sharing so much us with friendly "strangers", especially the death of your mother. It's sad that you experienced her betrayal of you and it's wonderful that you have the wider view on that.

As a mother, I have several times, been invited, no, persuaded (as in heavily worked on) to view my wonderful but off-the-beaten-path severely intelligent son, as "ADD", "ADHD", using drugs (which he wasn't), anti-social (socialized to --what?), Autistic, Narcissistic and even sociopathic, and the pressure was tremendous for me to cave on one of those labels. I almost crumbled in a couple of moments - but hung on by fingernails and didn't. And moved way past any of that garbage.

But your mother did cave, and I so embrace your generous memories of your mother, and your appreciation of all the support you had as a child. I believe that in death your mother can "snap out of it" and perhaps in her current state can support you in ways and in a power she did not have in life, with the confusion humans go through.

I certainly pray this is true and that your bond with her takes on a completely new definition that will empower you even more. I say this partly because my own mother showed up to me in unexpected ways after she died and effected healings on me and was quite a different person than the human mother I knew when she was alive here on the planet.

So while it's sad, there may be good bodings in this for you. Life and death has such mystery, so let's postulate the best. For you.

Elly
17th November 2012, 12:41
My deepest condolences Wade. The support and love giving by your mother through your childhood may well have helped define the strength you had going through your grown-up experiences. We can all be grateful for that. A passing is one on those strange moments when we refocus on our lives. My prayers for you and your family.

Wade Frazier
17th November 2012, 13:34
Hi all:

Thanks for the kind words. One thing that I would like to make clear is that my estrangement from my family and friends does not mean that they were in any way bad people or did not have the right stuff to live normal lives. What I experienced comes with the territory of playing at the high levels. When millions of dollars are flowing through your hands, when you are chasing the biggest event in the history of our species, and when Godzilla sics his minions on you to prevent said event, and people lose their lives, have them wrecked and shortened, billion dollar bribes get thrown around before people are thrown in jail, that has a very faint resemblance to the daily lives of 99.9999% of the global population. The temptations and perils of playing on that stage are nothing like what almost all people can imagine.

My parents did not know what they were in for by raising me, and they did not handle the Ventura events well, but almost nobody else did, either. When Mr. Professor and I ended up sacrificing our lives to spring Dennis from jail and give him another chance at it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

we were virtually alone, standing up to the forces of evil that run this planet. By that time, nearly everybody had either fled, betrayed us, or actively helped Godzilla, either consciously or by being stooges to provocateurs like Mr. Texas:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=580973&highlight=texas#post580973

My parents, with their small perspectives of the world and life (yes, even my “smart” father), were wholly unprepared for what ended up raining into my life, even though they groomed me to be what I became. They did what almost everybody else did, I am sorry to say. I won’t deny that it hurt, but they were just acting like nearly everybody else. Again, personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, and that lesson is driven home very keenly when you do stuff like play the FE game.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

Most “normal” friendships and family relationships cannot survive the rigors of that playing field. There was compensation, however. I found out who my friends were, and they are like gold nuggets to me today. I have no regrets, but I would not wish my journey on anybody, and as you can see on this thread, I have to keep discouraging newbies from chasing right after the killer bunny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

who have literally no idea what they are planning to get involved with.

Would I do it again? Knowing what I know now, I would have tried a slightly different path, otherwise, what is the point of any experience? I still have my eye on the goal, but am trying to get there via a path that is not so bloody. That may be another delusion, but I had to try. Again, I believe that my relatively unscarred childhood had something to do with surviving my days with Dennis, and for that, I have to thank my parents. In significant ways, my dismay at the lack of integrity displayed by those around me was my problem, not theirs.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
17th November 2012, 14:44
May strength and healing embrace you and your family Wade. I wish your mother safe passage.

To pick up on what CdnSirian has said, now that your mother has passed on, perhaps she will indeed see her life, and your own, through new eyes.

kudzy
18th November 2012, 01:28
Dear Wade;

I would like to express my sincere apology for your loss. You and your Mom are in my thoughts and prayers.

Best Wishes;
Darren

mosquito
18th November 2012, 07:14
My thoughts and prayers for you and all your family Wade. As I'm sure you know, just because relations may have been less than ideal between you doesn't take away the part she played in your being in this world and in molding you into the person you are today. Peace for you all.

Philip

Robert J. Niewiadomski
18th November 2012, 08:58
Hi

Wade, your Mother is now experiencig Free Energy first-hand :) She can now see you are not a crook and forgive you and ask you to forgive. Which i bet you have already did long ago...

Wade Frazier
18th November 2012, 18:39
Hi:

Thanks for the kind words and thoughts. My mother’s passing was really a blessing. I did not even shed a tear, which is a first for those dying close to me…this is actually the second time, now that I think about it. I took it like my mother’s mother’s passing. My mother’s mother also had dementia in her last years. They really checked out years before their bodies died.

I sure would not want to be a living vegetable. I think that I inherited my father’s brain more than my mother’s, but seeing two consecutive ancestors go the dementia route inspires me to keep my tool as sharp as possible. My father’s father also had strokes that took his memory by the end of his life. If I lost my marbles, in a moment of clarity I would probably try to exit this world. I can tell that my mind is not as quick as it was when I was nineteen, so I am doing what I can to keep it as sharp as possible.

One goal for a long time has been to resume my math studies that ended when I switched from science to business when I was nineteen, courtesy of that voice. I would like to see if I can still compute the diameter of a cone with the maximum possible volume inscribed in a sphere of radius h. It was really fun to do that stuff, but it has been 35 years since I did. If nothing else, it should help keep the tool sharp. But it is a luxury that I likely won’t get until I “retire.” My day job and the research and writing that will bear fruit in my upcoming essay comprise plenty of demand on my noggin.

I enjoy thinking. One of my abilities is taking a complex set of information and organizing it in new ways and simplifying it. I am actually doing that later today in the office, taking on a highly complex information systems issue. I have done this so many times that I have a “faith” in the process. I am really not all that smart, but what I do is just load all the available information into my head, kind of jamming it in there, and then I let it sit and ferment. After I have thought about it long enough (and I don’t focus on it all the time, not by any means, but now and again), I will begin to see the connections and organization, and then I end up inventing a different way of looking at it, kind of seeing the forest from the trees. I am not sure what to liken it to, but it is like bringing a bunch of raw material into a factory. It is kind of a mystery what happens inside the factory walls, but I have watched shiny products come out the other side so many times that I trust the process, even when the task can seem overwhelming. That faith is partly due to keeping the tool sharp, but there is also something else happening, where I get a creative moment or two, and then I get a big aha moment that makes it all clear and the solution stares at me. I had an aha moment yesterday, which I will be making the framework for in the office today (I find inventing to be similar to that Edison quote, where it is more perspiration than inspiration). That creative process kind of operates in the background when I take on big issues, but it is there when I need it, similar to psychic ability in that way.

As you might imagine, I feel a great responsibility to use my talent and experiences to make a dent in the heaven on Earth project. If I was not doing that, something in my spirit would not be fulfilled. For all that I have been through, I have to be grateful that I got the chance to try, and I am not done yet.

I have a busy day ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th November 2012, 20:41
Hi:

I have a few minutes before I go out and start a long day of chores, both household and in the office. I would like to address a misperception that I often see directed at my work, and tell a little bit more about my personal experiences. I was a bookworm since I learned to walk, but all the book learning in the world is a poor substitute for experience. Books are my tools, just sources of information. It is what I do with them that matters. From the gifted programs that I was in,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

to my mystical awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

to my academic achievements and baptism in the real world in the hell of LA:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

those were all merely preparatory experiences for what that voice had in mind for me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

A scholar can spend a lifetime studying warfare, but it is all a pale substitute for ten minutes on a battlefield. My years with Dennis were my years on the battlefield, and without those experiences, I truly doubt that I would have much worth saying. The radicalization of those years took me to a level of understanding that I probably could not have gained in other ways. I questioned my indoctrination from the beginning:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

and when I lived in LA, I subscribed to the Christian Science Monitor, thinking that I was getting something more fulfilling than the mainstream news:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

but I had a lot to learn, and I did, during my years with Dennis. My worldview was shredded in the aftermath of the Ventura days, and the way I see the world today is a lot less fettered than before I met Dennis. I regularly encounter people in the USA who are kind of fringe enthusiasts, but I can tell that they have never been on the battlefield. They have naïve notions of how the world works and how to change it. If I instead had gotten a job at Microsoft instead of walking in the front door of Dennis’s Seattle company, I would be rich today, but a big part of my soul’s mission for living this life would have likely been unfulfilled. My midlife crisis would have been a different kind of one, and I think that I would have been kind of empty inside if I had just become a total techno-nerd and made a pile of money. I am actually happy that I did not go that route.

However, those days with Dennis were so over-the-top that I still look back in disbelief sometimes, wondering if it really happened that way. In Boston, when I became Dennis’s partner, and I began to get attacked, and we were barely hanging in there, Dennis’s wife took me aside one day and told me that it was not easy sitting in my chair. Dennis had some very rich partners over his career, but having millions of dollars in the bank was faint consolation to the kind of high-abrasion faith walk that Dennis was on, with his odyssey of trying to bring alternative energy to the market. My memory is far from perfect, and she may have made that speech in the early days in Ventura, before the rocket took off. But she definitely made that speech before the raid. Then it rapidly began going downhill for me, with me going into another stress-induced physical collapse a couple of months after the raid. The goons taking all of my records, with my office stripped to the walls, was only part of it. Anybody who obtains Dennis’s books will know that my role in what happened is a lot larger than I let on on my site. The hot seat that I sat on in the months after the raid was white hot. Again, you don’t find out that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity until you begin to play at the high levels of a game like bringing FE to the world. Virtually everybody was going into self-protection mode, in one way or another, and it was ugly. Mr. Texas had infiltrated the operation by that time, but did not strike until Dennis was arrested:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=580973&highlight=stooge#post580973

and he found plenty of chumps willing to play along with his evil plans. I am going to give you a goodie today. I almost never name names, and anybody who gets Dennis’s books can find out Mr. Texas’s name, and I have linked to stories with his name in them for years (as you can see below). He is likely behind bars today, and is more than seventy years old and is ordered to pay $40 million in restitution. He is a master of the Dark Arts, but has been effectively defanged for now, but he may be out of prison today.

His days of making mischief are likely over, and he probably can’t harm anybody, but I would discourage people from looking him up. The naïve are like putty in the hands of somebody like him, even those who consider themselves worldly. His name is Ken Hodgell, and he went to prison for a Mormon scam that he was a ringleader of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/links.htm#texas

http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/business/20030318-9999_1b18scam.html

http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/metro/20070829-9999-1m29pubsafe.html

http://www.justice.gov/usao/cas/press/cas70827-Kempton.pdf

He was trying to get his sentence vacated last year.

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit-courts/ca9/11-56233/

This has been going on for years:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2008cv01581/277769/

I vividly recall one day, sitting in my office, the one stripped to the walls, with my mind racing, trying to find a way out, to withdraw with honor and not abandon anybody. It was rather involuntary what my mind was doing, and it was a nightmarish feeling. But it was not long before I asked Dennis for the summer off, not knowing if I could ever sit on that hot seat again. Little did I know that the fun was only beginning. I did not make the decision to move to Ventura (it was really the last place that I wanted to be, other than perhaps LA), but there I was, neck deep in the mess, and the subsequent twelve months was when I got radicalized. Mr. Deputy taking off his mask as I was on the witness stand was my watershed moment, when I finally had evil rubbed in my face:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

After that moment, I could never look back. One day, I should probably thank Mr. Deputy, Hodgell, and friends. Their evil deeds were key events in my awakening. As with Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm#libel

I have some doubt that they performed their deeds as employees for Godzilla. I am more than half convinced that they both performed their deeds as conscious members of Godzilla’s team (although with the compartmentalization and other tricks, they are far from aware of who sits at the top of the food chain that they feed from, nor do they likely care, as long as it pays well, and they also received a certain kind of Dark Path "psychic income," the kind that no "normal" person wants to achieve), but I could be wrong. It is more psychologically interesting if Mr. Skeptic’s efforts were born of some kind of pathological desire to be an august member of the “skeptical” effort. He is one of the most famous “skeptics” today, being on national TV several times as he attacked Dennis, with the mainstream media only being too happy to give him a platform to sling his mud. Hell, an NEM board member also gives him a platform, to show you why I am not affiliated with any FE effort these days. There is way too much naïveté out there in the FE ranks.

Godzilla’s minions are hired psychopaths, and it is not easy to distinguish them from the free-lance psychopaths. In the end, it is probably not even that important to know if they worked their magic as paid members of Godzilla’s team or if they were doing it free-lance. Just as anybody can serve the light, from whatever their station in life, so it goes with the dark side.

Off to chores and work.

Best,

Wade

Chris Gilbert
18th November 2012, 20:58
Sorry to hear about your mother Wade, I'll be sending you some energy today.

Wade Frazier
20th November 2012, 12:32
Hi all:

I will be on the road for most of the next three weeks. I’ll make some posts the weekend after this next one, and the weekend after that, I will get back to more normal posting for a while. I’ll leave with an observation about White Science and a generalized view.

As Fuller said, White Science is a slave profession, with its tunnel vision an outcome encouraged by the oligarchy. That tunnel vision is directly related to White Science’s emphasis on reductionism and over-specialization:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

and it also manifests in a “solidist” approach to cancer treatment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#halsted

where the dynamics of cancer are ignored and its manifestations are attacked, where symptoms are treated and causes are ignored. It manifests in physics where the particle is emphasized over the field:

http://projectearth.com/founder-essays/view/48-scientific-proof-of-the-presence-of-the-god-field-confirmed-by-cern

It also manifests on the conspiracist mentality, where conspiring elites are seen as causing all of our problems:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

That tunnel vision is the opposite from the systems perspective that sees the big picture, and which looks at situations like a creator instead of a victim. The root of all of that tunnel vision is fear, and it is love that opens eyes. One operates from denial and fixation, the other from acknowledgement and letting go. Once you develop an eye for this dichotomy, you see it everywhere. Love is always the answer to guiding our heads to seeing the light.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
20th November 2012, 13:26
Tunnel vision

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-81LFGtodnJc/UE9TCfnO2TI/AAAAAAAAJZ4/sxCNv4mPsqo/s400/geez-magazine-find-the-eyes-to-see.jpg



Bigger perspective

http://www.vth.biz/driver/sites/vth.biz/files/blogimages/left-right%20brain.jpg

Wade Frazier
29th November 2012, 05:58
Hi:

I am back for a few days, then off again. I do not like to spend much time on the punditry that simply does not understand the issues, but I need to give some examples, so that what I will be doing is clearly distinguished from the punditry that can tend to dominate the issues.

Here is another example of why scientists do not have much respect for economists:

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/the-great-oil-fallacy-7748

When economists homogenize everything with market prices and then make their analyses, they have left reality behind. Mistaking what motivates humans (money) with that which makes their lives possible (energy) is one of the great fallacies of modern economics, and something that scientists regularly remark on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#econ

which is partly why scientists call economics a pseudoscience. Many of the presumptions of economics are not subject to falsification, so are mere unproven assertions.

In looking at that site with that economist holding forth on the minor importance of oil, you can see other hacks at work, like this guy:

http://nationalinterest.org/article/reading-machiavelli-iraq-7611

he was perhaps the greatest flogger of the “left” on invading Iraq, and he chalks up the genocidal aftermath of the invasion to “mistakes,” in the standard imperialist apologist manner that Chomsky has remarked on so often:

http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20080123.htm

There is no lack of that kind of vapid punditry, from right, “left” and center. That stuff bears no relation to my work.

Back to Rome soon.

Best,

Wade