WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[steven69]

Hi Wade,


Anybody who has been reading much of this thread knows how much I use Roads's vision as a star to steer by, and I think that we will not bend reality to our will as much as co-create it by using love.

If we are to create it using love then we will need to have guiding principles in place to steer by as well. The energy scarcity paradigm must be transcended, granted. But I do not want to go back to a world of greed where the mindset is every-body-for-themselves in a dog-eat-dog reality. If I understand you, energy abundance cannot even become a reality in this world without a radical shift in our perceptions. And what is freedom but energy, anyway? The power to choose another method of dealing with our neighbours is only possible in a world of energy abundance. The two go hand in hand. Love is the only way to get there and with respect for all life on this little blue-green gem of a planet.

A healed planet is a peaceful planet. It must begin in the mind of the self and then it must be extended to include all. All thought is energy, and the abundance comes from spreading the idea to others. Then we will be ready to apply our hearts and our minds to the task of manifesting abundant free energy. At that point it won't be all that difficult.

Ernie's abundance game is only possible if it is joined by Wade's abundance game and Yoda's abundance game and... We have to play together, like we are now playing the scarcity game together.

On the other hand, since I am the only one here, maybe my game is the only one in town. So I'll try my best to step up my game!

Peace

Hi Ernie - I'll would like to play in the abundance game with you all as well.:cool: - if you would have me? Shall I play in goal or up front? Seriously I think we would have to play a team game - a very discplined team with the highest integrity.I know I have not always been perfect in the past but I would promise to be best that I can be from this point onwards and I do know that I have a loving and open heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4

Free hugs to you and everyone else reading this thread, Steven

[steven69]

Hey Ernie:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#intro

I said raise my game, and you are saying “step up my game.” Some kind of plagiarism! :)

Yeah, you are tuned in. It has to be we. It is all part of conundrum, and it can only be unraveled with whole hearts. If you want to play the Kermit of free energy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related

I am fine with that.

Yes, in Earl Cook’s book:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn6

he said that energy was choice. Another way of saying that energy is freedom. We ride atop the energy situation and always have. All peoples for all time; all life for all time. In the end, I am an economics guy probably more than anything else, and that is all based in energy.

Sleep tight,

Wade

Hi Wade,

Sorry for being away for a day - a few issues to get clear in my head! I watched your favourite Muppet show "rainbow" ending yesterday and loved it but didn't get round to posting it - so here it is now for you and everyone else here in the far flung corner of the forum all to enjoy :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM1jJq1fbD4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Your muppet clip was funny and surely a free energy movement could not be started using a "rich and famous contract"!;) - it was greed that got us all in this mess in the first place. Borrowing from the pragmatic "old" business perspective it would have to be based upon a transparent not-for-profit basis with the highest integrity and accountability and at the same time based upon a "new" open and loving heart which has certainly been missing for far too long!

Energy is freedom and freedom is energy - a vision that must be achieved for Mother Earth and all that are fortunate enough to reside here.

I tried (please bear with me this is so new to me) to hold a vision for abundance and I think that I saw thick forests everywhere right down to the coast line - you will have to excuse my vagueness as my head is a little cloudy at the moment something I hope to resolve shortly (reminds me of Cape Tribulation in Queensland thinking back now). There were no tower buildings and I (think) there were only scattering a homes tucked within the trees none higher than the canopy. It was all very lush and peaceful - quite beautiful. I will try again and come back to you with come clearer picture hopefully and some other ideas that I have been mullling over.

This is the first forum I have ever been a member of and I fully understand your wariness given your experiences. I have used my proper first name and will consider using my surname and uploading a photo to try and assist with communication and trust - I just need to clear up a few other issues first. I have always been a "people" person and very much a team player (sometimes leading sometimes not) and I always prefer to communicate face to face and have eye contact (the eyes are the window to the soul my wife and soulmate used to say to me) as it helps me truly resonate with people and properly "buy-in" to a vision/mission.

Free hugs and best wishes, Steven

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Galactica:

Thanks, yes, the we part is necessary for a few reasons.

Wade

Hi Steven:

Keep your forest vision and enhance it. On the Muppets, the “rich and famous contract” punch line, as a free energy analogy, is about a free energy aspirant being welcomed to the party. In every other scene ever played out in the free energy field, instead of Kermit getting the rich and famous contract, the final scene is Uncle Orson sitting down to a tasty plate of frog’s legs and ham.

On Sunday, I did a soon-to-be-published interview. It ran far longer than the hosts planned. Most was off the record, so I am not sure if part of our conversation was for the public show or not. I discussed people like Dennis and Greer, as they continually try to scale the ramparts, and whether making those attempts is crazy or not. I have had the hot oil poured on me before, and have no desire the repeat the experience. Anybody trying to scale the ramparts should not be surprised if they get the hot oil treatment, and I will never ask anybody to do so. However, those throwing their lives away can scale away, and it is possible that one time, as they approach the castle, ready to try scaling, that the portcullis is open and they walk right in. They are then ushered into the throne room and the king says something like, “I have long waited for you, and am happy that you are here. What do you have for me?” And maybe, it would be genuine. I have already been close to people who have been in that scene, but it was a fake one, with the assassins waiting in the next room (I have now seen several scenes like that; an audience does not guarantee you anything, except being on the lion's menu). But, maybe that will happen one day, and our metaphorical Kermit will stroll into the throne room and be knighted. If that ever happens, plenty will have happened off stage. Again, I’ll take the Muppet Movie ending to the free energy quest, but I am not encouraging anybody to go knock on the castle gate, either.

Best,

Wade

[write4change]

Didn't Mork try that as the Kingfisher?

[Wade Frazier]

I saw it when it came out, but cannot recall the particulars.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Steven,

Hi Ernie - I'll would like to play in the abundance game with you all as well. - if you would have me? Shall I play in goal or up front? Seriously I think we would have to play a team game - a very discplined team with the highest integrity.I know I have not always been perfect in the past but I would promise to be best that I can be from this point onwards and I do know that I have a loving and open heart.

Like Wade said above, its a dangerous game to play out in public - it is dangerous enough in this forum. And I believe him. I think for now lets play a pretend game and see how that works. Let's see what Wade has in mind, he's the visionary. My parents have always accused me of being a dreamer (and they did not mean it as a compliment) - and I am proud of it. So let's dream this thing first, get all the kinks out of it, and then we'll see where it goes. Let's see if we can fan the flames of an abundance paradigm until many are ablaze with the idea. All manifestations begin with an idea in the mind of one soul, then a few, then some more, until it becomes an inferno burning bright in the mind of man.
When the time comes, and by my estimation it won't take too long, we can really turn this thing into an unstoppable force! (wish the ABC thingie worked, gotta figure it out, I'm not the best speller in town)
Peace

[steven69]

Hi Galactica:

Thanks, yes, the we part is necessary for a few reasons.

Wade

Hi Steven:

Keep your forest vision and enhance it. On the Muppets, the “rich and famous contract” punch line, as a free energy analogy, is about a free energy aspirant being welcomed to the party. In every other scene ever played out in the free energy field, instead of Kermit getting the rich and famous contract, the final scene is Uncle Orson sitting down to a tasty plate of frog’s legs and ham.

On Sunday, I did a soon-to-be-published interview. It ran far longer than the hosts planned. Most was off the record, so I am not sure if part of our conversation was for the public show or not. I discussed people like Dennis and Greer, as they continually try to scale the ramparts, and whether making those attempts is crazy or not. I have had the hot oil poured on me before, and have no desire the repeat the experience. Anybody trying to scale the ramparts should not be surprised if they get the hot oil treatment, and I will never ask anybody to do so. However, those throwing their lives away can scale away, and it is possible that one time, as they approach the castle, ready to try scaling, that the portcullis is open and they walk right in. They are then ushered into the throne room and the king says something like, “I have long waited for you, and am happy that you are here. What do you have for me?” And maybe, it would be genuine. I have already been close to people who have been in that scene, but it was a fake one, with the assassins waiting in the next room (I have now seen several scenes like that; an audience does not guarantee you anything, except being on the lion's menu). But, maybe that will happen one day, and our metaphorical Kermit will stroll into the throne room and be knighted. If that ever happens, plenty will have happened off stage. Again, I’ll take the Muppet Movie ending to the free energy quest, but I am not encouraging anybody to go knock on the castle gate, either.

Best,

Wade

Hi Wade,

I will work on that vision this evening and try and enhance it - who knows I may be able to introduce some colourful flowers!:humble:

I used to gave a Kermit the frog as a child and that brought back great memories - I used to watch the TV shows but strangley I never ever saw any of the movies - thanks for stirring the memory banks and for light reflief I will watch them in full and with awakened eyes will probably laugh at very different things - I can't wait to see that two grumpy men in the theatre box again!:cool:

I look forward to hearing that interview in good time - always fascinating to speculate on what snippets don't make the cut!:drama:

Don't worry this "muppet" is allergic to boiling oil and will not be trying to scale the ramparts!:crazy:

One day hopefully a gentle tap, tap, tap on the portculis gate will see it open with a genuine reception and with no assassins in any side room.:peace:

In the meantime I need to get on with some work today to pay a few bills and now that my head is a lot clearer about certain things and my mojo appears to have returned I will try and let the imagination run wild on that abundance vision.:cool:

Have a good day, best wishes, steven

[steven69]

Hi Steven,

Hi Ernie - I'll would like to play in the abundance game with you all as well. - if you would have me? Shall I play in goal or up front? Seriously I think we would have to play a team game - a very discplined team with the highest integrity.I know I have not always been perfect in the past but I would promise to be best that I can be from this point onwards and I do know that I have a loving and open heart.

Like Wade said above, its a dangerous game to play out in public - it is dangerous enough in this forum. And I believe him. I think for now lets play a pretend game and see how that works. Let's see what Wade has in mind, he's the visionary. My parents have always accused me of being a dreamer (and they did not mean it as a compliment) - and I am proud of it. So let's dream this thing first, get all the kinks out of it, and then we'll see where it goes. Let's see if we can fan the flames of an abundance paradigm until many are ablaze with the idea. All manifestations begin with an idea in the mind of one soul, then a few, then some more, until it becomes an inferno burning bright in the mind of man.
When the time comes, and by my estimation it won't take too long, we can really turn this thing into an unstoppable force! (wish the ABC thingie worked, gotta figure it out, I'm not the best speller in town)
Peace

Hi Ernie,

Totally agree and dreaming & thinking at this stage is what I really meant and is fine with me - especially as this "muppet" still has a lot of work to do on his journey. With perseversance I will get there - and maybe part of any real team if the time is right!

What was the ABC thingie? was it giving ten words all starting with the letter A then someone else taking the next letter to do the same? If so don't worry about the spelling - I know a dyselxic who worships his DOG.

best wishes, steven

[Wade Frazier]

Ernie:

You are a man after my own heart. You may be able to imagine how frustrating it can be (especially for somebody with impatience issues! :) ), to have very, very, very few people understand my intentions or visions over the long years, or even want to. This has been a very lonely journey so far, as people like Brian will attest (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely ). You even have some technical skills, so the science stuff in my work (and a lot is coming in the new essays) should also make a lot of sense.

I am thinking that if a thousand people begin to sing the song, and in harmony, maybe we have a chance to get something going. It does not have to all be in this forum, and I hope it is not, but it has to start someplace.

You are tuned in, buddy, you dreamer, you.

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Steven,


I know a dyselxic who worships his DOG.


LOL! Had a good laugh over that one.

No the spell check has to be upload from limbo somewhere. I just haven't had the time to do it. I have been doing it the old fashioned way - with a dictionary.

cheers

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Wade,
Thanks again for the kind words. But I am not only supporting you out of, I don't know, the "guru" syndrome. I'm not looking for the next fad. I believe in the worthiness of mankind. I believe we owe it to mankind to find a way out of our present plight. I also believe in my powers of discernment, they have been honed by many years of personal research and, equally, by my own personal tribulations. I'm no genius, but I have kept my mind sharp and clear - and I do have a good heart.
I really believe...
This is where my own work has lead me. I am ready. Best of all, I have literally nothing to loose and everything to gain, not only for me but my daughter, my family, my friends and for all the world.
I make a very good Lieutenant in any cause I take up.
So, lead away, I'll watch your back!
Peace

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

I am a deeply flawed human, like the rest of us. My sins are not as great as others that I know, but some of the greatest people I have known sometimes killed people as part of their jobs. What a long, strange trip it has been.

Yes, I think that humanity deserves to climb out of the well, and I know a lot of the nuts and bolts of how to do it. But I can’t do it alone. Nor can Dennis or Brian. It has to be a gang tackle. Beyond that, I don’t know. As I am sure that you can attest to, your family thinks you are strange (you already admitted that one! :) ), and well-intended people will counsel you to not stray from the herd, but here you are. You are seeing my intention more clearly than almost anybody that I have encountered, and that is saying something. You may say that it is not rocket science, but you might be astounded at all the people who refuse to understand, usually because of a fear-driven, self-serving agenda.

As I have always said, what it takes to grok the abundance paradigm depends on the heart, not the head. If your heart is whole, it means that your head will be too, even if your mental horsepower is on Forrest Gump’s level. I have known Forrest Gump types who are vastly wiser than some geniuses that I know. Seth even called “mongoloids” (yes, not PC, but people my age do not know the new medical term for them) emotional geniuses who are able to be happy all the time. However, my work is pretty cerebral, too, and I am into how things work. If we understood how the world really works, then we can change it in a positive way and not be sidelined by all the rabbit holes, and they are virtually infinite on this path.

We will see where this takes us, but your reaction has already paid the price of my admission to this forum. You would be amazed at how few there are like you out there, even if you think that you have done nothing yet. This forum has potential; I’ll say that.

Best,

Wade

Hi Steven:

I am done with scaling ramparts, too. The Muppets were divinely inspired, I think. I have rarely watched TV in the past 35 years, but one of my most precious memories is living with my grandparents when I got out of college and watching The Muppet Show with them almost every night, after the evening “news.”

We all have our journeys, and where we plan to go, probably only our soul knows. My life is pretty much dealing with each day as it comes. I don’t get to play visionary all that often in my daily life. I hide at the office, with only a few knowing about my “other” life. Almost nobody can believe that what I lived through was real:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/happened.htm

so I am pretty quiet. That introversion has harmed my career in ways (if I was more outgoing, I would have become a CFO and have made many millions of dollars by now, but I just help my CFOs get rich. :) ), but I am doing OK; I might even get to “retire” one day. :)

Best,

Wade

[filsmyth]

When I was 18, I think it was (a long, long time ago), I got my first credit card (because my girlfriend worked at department store, and she got some kind of bonus for signing a certain number of people up). I used it to buy a single item -- and then when the bill came, I paid it in full. After this my card no longer worked. After standing in line for quite a while I was eventually able to get someone in customer service to explain to me that paying a credit card bill in full generally leads to a closure of the account, that this was standard policy, it was already done, and if I wanted further credit with the store I would have to apply for a new card.

Basically I was punished for doing what came naturally.

This seems to me to be an example of how our world has gone wrong -- and the use of 'credit' in general is definitely a major symptom.

People don't seem to realize or care that they end up spending a lot more for things this way. Many will gleefully enslave themselves to get things now -- never mind how long it will take to pay, or what the real cost becomes.

...And this is how we as a people have been treating our planet. The future, it would seem, is somebody else's problem.


I live in West Virginia, so the electricity powering my computer right now comes from burning coal. One of the ways it's been mined recently has been through a process called 'Mountaintop Removal' -- yes they actually cut the tops off of mountains (the relatively low ones of the Appalachians, the oldest mountain range on Earth) to get down to the layers of coal. They usually do this far from highways, in the 'middle of nowhere', so most people have no idea of the extent of the destruction.

You can see it in satellite images on Google Maps, if you care to look. I'm feeling ill just talking about it, so I'll move on...



WE CANNOT continue like this for much longer.


The good news is, we won't have to.



Yes, it IS an important, seemingly unavoidable step, to first imagine what free energy can do.

The vision WILL catch on -- but it's up to us to spread it.


B-)

[Scott]

I thank Scott and Tom for having me on. That was fun. I do not get to do that very often. I took a while to fall asleep last night, in a good way.

The question they asked, that somebody in this forum posed, was that if I had a chance to get my own underground exotic technology show, would I go? I answered something like, “Hell no!” :)

The price of admission for a show like that is playing at a level where you are risking your life, and this coward does not want to play that game again. :)

I was pretty forthcoming in that interview, more than the others that I have done. I hope that I don’t catch any spook flak for it, but we will see.

As a little aside, Tom kept making the observation that the American Empire is beginning to sink beneath the waves, with perhaps China being the new king of the hill. My reply is that it has not happened yet, but the last thing that I do is defend the American Empire:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

Gotta to work now,

Wade

Haha, I Hear ya Wade :)

It was a great interview, almost TOO great as we covered so many areas that I now have more hours to edit than twice the length of our show, ;p
I think I have to do it in 2 parts now.

Enjoy this section folks, Wade is the real deal :)

It's all good, it was nice talking to you :)

Be Well
Scott

[steven69]

When I was 18, I think it was (a long, long time ago), I got my first credit card (because my girlfriend worked at department store, and she got some kind of bonus for signing a certain number of people up). I used it to buy a single item -- and then when the bill came, I paid it in full. After this my card no longer worked. After standing in line for quite a while I was eventually able to get someone in customer service to explain to me that paying a credit card bill in full generally leads to a closure of the account, that this was standard policy, it was already done, and if I wanted further credit with the store I would have to apply for a new card.

Basically I was punished for doing what came naturally.

This seems to me to be an example of how our world has gone wrong -- and the use of 'credit' in general is definitely a major symptom.

People don't seem to realize or care that they end up spending a lot more for things this way. Many will gleefully enslave themselves to get things now -- never mind how long it will take to pay, or what the real cost becomes.

...And this is how we as a people have been treating our planet. The future, it would seem, is somebody else's problem.


I live in West Virginia, so the electricity powering my computer right now comes from burning coal. One of the ways it's been mined recently has been through a process called 'Mountaintop Removal' -- yes they actually cut the tops off of mountains (the relatively low ones of the Appalachians, the oldest mountain range on Earth) to get down to the layers of coal. They usually do this far from highways, in the 'middle of nowhere', so most people have no idea of the extent of the destruction.

You can see it in satellite images on Google Maps, if you care to look. I'm feeling ill just talking about it, so I'll move on...



WE CANNOT continue like this for much longer.


The good news is, we won't have to.



Yes, it IS an important, seemingly unavoidable step, to first imagine what free energy can do.

The vision WILL catch on -- but it's up to us to spread it.


B-)

Hi flysmith,

I had to laugh at the credit card story - I have paid mine off in full every month for the last 20 years and each time smile at how that must annoy a credit controller somewhere - however it never with any smugness of getting one over "them" as simply having a bank account and mortage means I can't win any financial game.

You are right credit is major problem and subsequent debt enslavement is tragic - I wince when ever I see hear about the ever increassing number of people using their already loaded credit cards simply to pay the months utility bills in desparation - it all comes back to energy for me.

The rape of Mother Earth for energy resources has to stop - your mountain story is a fine example. We all have tales that are seared in our memories - In the last two years I have witness a new shopping centre in Delhi run off a bank of 6 huge diesel generators in the car-park (the bribe to connect to the local grid had not been paid yet!) belching out thick brown smoke. Similarily painful was failing to be able to see my hotel only 1000m away from the observation deck of the finance tower in Shangai due to the brown smog over the city. I used to say that unless we stop this madness we are all doomed - however I am no longer thinking that way and hold Wades vision of abundance in my mind and I am convinced that enough people could be gathered in that common purpose.

I will explain why - earlier this evening I had to walk to the train station to pick up my daughter- standing on the overhead bridge I looked down at the overhead power lines and thought how great it would be to see them disappear and then I imagined the track gone and covered with grass and the train floating in by antigravity or even better still she could have floated all the way home in a bubble from the Roads abundance vision!

It also reminded me that earlier in the day my wife had asked me if I could research the "safe" distance from the overhead railway lines as our house is fairly close and I immediately thought that in the future we will not have to worry because they will be gone! amazing how such a simple concept has already taken a hold on simple old me!

I would encourage all to join in and imagine such an abundance vision. I have spent another couple of hours this evening reading more of Wade website and encourage you to do the same. It is simply an enthralling read - beautifully written and drags you in deeper and deeper. After a dozen or so click of hyperlinks I find myself having to come back up for air and to find where I started from orginally. However any section is equally fascinating when not clicking the links - anyway I must stop blowing smoke up his a** in case his head swells too much (but somehow I doubt that would happen as he appears to have dealt with many flatterers in the past):cool:

I agree with you the vision will catch on and we do need to spread it.

anyway bye for now, Steven

[steven69]

Hi Scott,

I am sure that everyone here will greatly appreciate all your hard work and look forward to hearing the final version.

Many thanks, Steven

[steven69]

Hi Ernie:

I am a deeply flawed human, like the rest of us. My sins are not as great as others that I know, but some of the greatest people I have known sometimes killed people as part of their jobs. What a long, strange trip it has been.

Yes, I think that humanity deserves to climb out of the well, and I know a lot of the nuts and bolts of how to do it. But I can’t do it alone. Nor can Dennis or Brian. It has to be a gang tackle. Beyond that, I don’t know. As I am sure that you can attest to, your family thinks you are strange (you already admitted that one! :) ), and well-intended people will counsel you to not stray from the herd, but here you are. You are seeing my intention more clearly than almost anybody that I have encountered, and that is saying something. You may say that it is not rocket science, but you might be astounded at all the people who refuse to understand, usually because of a fear-driven, self-serving agenda.

As I have always said, what it takes to grok the abundance paradigm depends on the heart, not the head. If your heart is whole, it means that your head will be too, even if your mental horsepower is on Forrest Gump’s level. I have known Forrest Gump types who are vastly wiser than some geniuses that I know. Seth even called “mongoloids” (yes, not PC, but people my age do not know the new medical term for them) emotional geniuses who are able to be happy all the time. However, my work is pretty cerebral, too, and I am into how things work. If we understood how the world really works, then we can change it in a positive way and not be sidelined by all the rabbit holes, and they are virtually infinite on this path.

We will see where this takes us, but your reaction has already paid the price of my admission to this forum. You would be amazed at how few there are like you out there, even if you think that you have done nothing yet. This forum has potential; I’ll say that.

Best,

Wade

Hi Steven:

I am done with scaling ramparts, too. The Muppets were divinely inspired, I think. I have rarely watched TV in the past 35 years, but one of my most precious memories is living with my grandparents when I got out of college and watching The Muppet Show with them almost every night, after the evening “news.”

We all have our journeys, and where we plan to go, probably only our soul knows. My life is pretty much dealing with each day as it comes. I don’t get to play visionary all that often in my daily life. I hide at the office, with only a few knowing about my “other” life. Almost nobody can believe that what I lived through was real:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/happened.htm

so I am pretty quiet. That introversion has harmed my career in ways (if I was more outgoing, I would have become a CFO and have made many millions of dollars by now, but I just help my CFOs get rich. :) ), but I am doing OK; I might even get to “retire” one day. :)

Best,

Wade

Hi Wade,

How bizarre! My fondest memories of playing with my hand kermit and watching the Muppet show was at my grandparent's house on regular visits - it was probably all the sweets that helped fix those memories:cool:

Anyway enough of the misty eyes - I have been trying to do your encyclopedic website justice this evening - I think I gave it a good wrap earlier so I will not "big" you up anymore.;) I am currently listening to your Camelot interview as I type this note I wish I had found it earlier - it certainly helps hearing the story resonate and can recommend it to others.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html

So many poignant words thank you.

The criteria (you quite rightly) set is a very high benchmark but I am confident that you find enough people to pursue the vision - please keep the faith.

Best wishes, Steven

[filsmyth]

Hi flysmith



I may be 'fly', and the name I inherited may indeed be Smith, but...

I am THE Phil Smith, among tens of thousands, who has altered the spelling to use filsmyth as a username. I find it is always available, and so it has become my identity.

On the interwebs, it serves me to distinguish myself from all the other Smiths out there with similar first names. Wade may prefer people to use their 'real' names, but he already knows who I am.

I am filsmyth.

[Of course now I'll have to be on the lookout for pretenders...]



This world is ours.

Others may lay claim to it, but as Chief Seattle said, "The Earth does not belong to us. We belong to the Earth."

It is in our hands to transform our relationship with Her from quasi-parasitic to symbiotic.

We may be Her adopted children, but we are Her children nonetheless. She would like, I think, to see us prosper. She will be proud to see us overcome all obstacles, with whatever help we may find, to assert ourselves as full-fledged members of Galactic and Universal society.

We are only beginning to discover our abilities.

We can, and we will, prevail against all oppressors.

This forum is only one small part of the process.




Stay crunchy.





- fil

[Reinhard]

Wade,

I understand why you get impatient, and I thank you for your patience so far!

If I got it right, you are saying that talking about conspiracies, trying to beat the system at its own game, discussing the physics behind ZPE, tinkering in our garage are all unproductive routes (based on your extensive life experience) and also because we play the role of victims (instead of creators). I think I got this right mainly from your essay: Keys to comprehending abundance based paradigms.

So I feel that the purpose of your site is to stop people from wasting their energy with actions that are bound to fail.

What I did not understand, so far, is what can we "do"? Like some practical advice...

Your goal is to raise awareness with regards to the fact that:
1. Free energy is possible and we should at least dream about it! (instead of denial)
2. Everything in our society revolves around energy.

How can we help you do this?

Going now through some of Seth's writings (Nature of personal reality) I think I understand why is very important to first imagine this free energy. So I am trying to do that... this is one of the reasons that I follow your posts, to keep the free energy in my awareness. But what else could we "do"?

Thanks for the "fresh wind". Have you heard of the "Karpen Generator" at the main museum in Bucharest?
Greeting, Reinhard

[Wade Frazier]

Hi fil:

Big subjects. Credit can only exist in a world of scarcity, and the list of abominations with credit is a long one. We FE, credit disappears, as does money. I have walked though the remains of mines, and clear cuts up here are something that every hiker sees. With FE, the earth-raping practices can cease almost immediately. The transformative potential of FE can be difficult for me to understand.

Hi Scott:

Sorry that we blabbed so long. I don’t know how you determine the real deal from the pretenders, but my real story is a lot deeper than the public one, as you know.

I am interested to see how it turns out.

This will be interview number three, and so far, they seem to be going well. I was not wild about using that medium.

Hi Steven:

Keep visioning. As far as smoke-blowing, nobody is harder on their writings than the authors themselves. I admit that some of it holds up pretty well, other parts I would like to rewrite. For instance, I would like to write more about the Taino survival. Controversial subject. Some of my earliest essays had large quotes in them, which I do not do anymore, such as my Columbus and Lies I was Raised with essays, and moving my letters out of that American Empire essay. My grammar needs a lot of work. Typos abound. I would also make some small stylistic changes. I think that the basic thrust for all essays stays the same.

So yeah, smoke-blowing would not get too far :) The greatest success that work like mine has had is when a friend took Silva and it opened up a new world for him. Or when a friend decided that running off to the doctor for every little ailment might not be the best strategy. It is those little changes in lives that can be smoke-blowing opportunities. When somebody tries to run out and do something big, making a splash, I want to hide my eyes. Only long-time veterans of that game should try that. And even when we would pull off the big show, my response was always, “Now what?” As it all eventually crumbled. You can’t sell train tickets before the train is built. What I am trying to is a lot less sexier, and is designed so that the Band Wagon Jumpers would not be interested.

What I am trying to develop is a group that understands the energy issue, how it fits into life on earth and human society and what its potential is. Big stuff, but it is not about chasing after the latest would-be demo by the tinkerer of the hour, the latest biofuel solution, the latest war in Asia over the oil. This is timeless material, and if we turn the corner, that kind of thinking will be more important than ever, partly because it sees far, sees with the heart, and is patient. It can be the even keel for humanity’s journey into abundance.

At least, that is what I am hoping to develop.

We’ll see how it goes,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi rs50:

I have not heard of that particular device. It would seem to be a cousin to the Methernitha device:

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/swiss.html

While such demos are so low profile, with no plans to commercialize them, they seem to be getting a “pass” from the Global Controllers. The days they go after VC money and plan to make a commercial version for a house, then the game changes.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wade,

Do you have any more gems like "Ileah and the Whale" :)?

I would love to read some more...

- Ilie

[Reinhard]

Hi rs50:

I have not heard of that particular device. It would seem to be a cousin to the Methernitha device:

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/swiss.html

While such demos are so low profile, with no plans to commercialize them, they seem to be getting a “pass” from the Global Controllers. The days they go after VC money and plan to make a commercial version for a house, then the game changes.

Best,

Wade

Hi Wade,
well, I answered yesterday. Guess my answer got lost. The Karpen device is not similar to the Methernita device. But you are right, it is VERY low profile: locked away in the cellar of the Bucharest Museem, running since 1950!
Information can be googled under Karpen Pile oder Karpen Battery.

I admire your persistency and expertise. More later.

Best regards,
Reinhard

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I have been sick (the flu is big right now in my town, and that is my style of illness and always strikes when I am not taking good care of myself). I am on the other side of it now, and about to go into work for a long Sunday, getting tasks done that should have been completed on Friday. Nothing much to say at the moment, other than relating something that that hit my email this weekend.

Free energy is not safe to discuss in polite company. Again, you would not expect sane people to attack you for spreading the “good news” of heaven on earth maybe being around the corner. But we do not live in a sane world. In many ways, people will feel that you are threatening their existence, and in significant ways, they are right. Those who have carved out somewhat comfy niches in hell, usually spending all of their life’s energy doing it, do not take kindly to somebody coming along and making it all obsolete, even if heaven on earth replaced it. This can be very hard to believe, but I have watched naïve newcomers throw their careers away by thinking that their co-workers would welcome free energy.

I wrote about this elsewhere, long ago:

http://www.serendipity.li/fe/minefields.htm

If the second question that listeners did not always ask (“If it is so great, then why don’t we have it?”) after being introduced to the FE idea and how people like me say it is already here, then maybe the naïve path has merit. But they always and reasonably ask why on earth if something that wonderful existed, why we do not have it yet. More than 99.9% of the population cannot handle the answer, and they will project their fears and delusions onto you. Although they no longer burn people at the stake in the West, you may get to experience the modern version of it.

I bring this up today partly because my background has brought me into contact with a wide array of “alternative” groups, including the 9/11 movement. Regarding 9/11, I only outline where the fruitful avenues of investigation might be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

One of my long-time correspondents is a technical specialist at a major U.S. university, and he has been “obsessed” with 9/11, especially the controlled demolition aspect of the building collapses on 9/11. He has broached the subject with a number of professors, and if they don’t ignore him, he gets a condescending rejection, telling him to go back to stamp collecting. He tried to enlist my aid to shame that university into at least giving some lip service to the possibility, and I told him to keep his head low, wait until his retirement comes this year, and then raise hell. Otherwise, they may scratch where it itches, and he will find himself unemployed just before he qualifies for his pension. That is a highly risky thing to do. When Ralph McGehee figured it out, he was trapped at the CIA, and stuck it out for several more years until he could get out with an early retirement. Then he spoke out, and still paid a heavy price.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

When Steve Jones of BYU spoke out on the controlled demolition aspect of 9/11, people like me wondered how his career would fare. He was quickly “retired” to emeritus status. When Ward Churchill merely wrote of the “little Eichmann” aspect of 9/11, he did so thinking that his academic position was safe. He reckoned incorrectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill

I have read his writings for about twenty years, and his “On the Justice of Roosting Chickens” with its “Little Eichmanns” was vintage Churchill. I have deeply researched much of the same subject matter that Churchill has. I do not always have the same conclusions that he does (for instance, there is evidence of Aztec human sacrifice and cannibalism, although nothing on the scale of the Conquistador propaganda, I think that the overhunting hypothesis for the megafauna extinctions is a strong one http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#megafauna), and I have other issues with some of his scholarly positions, but no serious scholar can help but be awed by the scope and depth of Churchill’s work. What that inquisition did was the equivalent of putting a couple of Churchill’s footnotes on the rack and torturing them to confess. As is typical with that type of inquisitorial behavior, they attacked tangential aspects of his arguments, carefully avoiding his primary thrust. So it is with cowards.

That is like getting Dennis for failing to file a form, but everybody subsequently acting like he was convicted of some crime of the century, with people like Mr. Skeptic making a career out of lying about Dennis’s past, getting on national TV every few years to spew his venom, and stalking me wherever I appear on the Internet. So far, Bill has provided a refuge, and I am grateful for it. But, because all appears safe on the “reservation,” no reader should think that the coast is clear to trumpet free energy to everybody they know. Unless you are ready to be ostracized, have your career quickly end, and have family and friends never treat you the same way again, then go after it. But, please, I do not want to hear your tale of woe if you just had to go do it, even after being warned. I can only take so many “red asphalt” stories of people thinking that they could go spread the free energy gospel to everybody they knew.

When I see replies on this thread by those who obviously heard of free energy for the first time by reading this thread, I feel responsible to make statements like this, so that the naïve newbies don’t become instant martyrs on altars that they did not even know existed.

Enough said for now.

Best,

Wade

Hi Ilie:

I saw your post just as I got on to post the above. That Ileah and Whale vision came to me one morning. I was trying to envision something, but visions like that tend to take on a life of their own. I am happy that you enjoyed it, and believe me, I wish that doing vision work like what was all that I did all day. Alas, my life is not yet there! :)

However, I really want to make visions like that a pretty regular part of my contribution to this forum. I do not have a backlog of stories like that; I make them up as I go. I used to lead group meditations, sometimes it was to recover past-life memories, but visions like that Ileah one also came naturally, and I would lead the groups through them. It is a form of meditation for me to do that, and I should mediate more, but I prefer active meditations. OK, you have inspired me to try to make visions like that a habit here. How about I try to do another one within the next month? My day job is going to be insanely demanding for the next few weeks, but doing visions like that is not “work” for me, but play. We will see how it goes, and thanks for asking. It had an impact.

Best wishes,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Reinhard:

I am not saying that the mechanism is the same, but I would guess that both are tapping the ZPF in a low grade way. That is how I see them similarly, although I am far, far from an expert in assessing such gizmos. Yes, while they are low-level curios, they are probably left alone, although I am sure that the custodians of each have some very interesting stories to tell, that they probably refuse to tell publicly. You can do this stuff and live to tell about it, if you play at those levels. Don’t think that you are not on the radar, however. You are. And if they keep it at the building-sand-castles level, and about every five years they take it out and say “Gee, isn’t that interesting?” before they put it back in the box, then they should be safe, at least from the Global Controllers. The biggest danger is probably from would-be allies, at that stage, who want to help them get to the Big Time with it, or the naïve snoopers. Then it can get, shall we say, interesting. :)

Best,

Wade

[DeDukshyn]

Wow! this is great! A huge welcome Wade - looking forward to getting all caught up with your info and sharing a few words with you!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi DeDukshyn: Thanks for the welcome,

Wade

[Etruscan]

Wade, new to Avalon this is my first exchange, Tesla and Tom Bearden I am familiar with, how about Dr R. Mills, hydrino and Blacklight at http://www.blacklightpower.com/ are you aware of Dr Mills' work and his unified theory of the universe?

From his book: "The universe is time harmonically oscillatory in matter, energy, and spacetime expansion and contraction with a minimum radius that is the gravitational radius"

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Etruscan:

I am somewhat familiar with Blacklight and hydrinos (all ZPF-related, IMO), and Brian O much more so, but free energy physics is not the purpose of my writings or this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=122697&viewfull=1#post122697

Maybe one of the admins or other members that are interested in talking free energy physics (there seem to be quite a few in this forum) can start a thread where free energy physics can be discussed.

Thanks,

Wade

[9eagle9]

Amazing. Yes its does seem that social engineering conditions us in that fashion. WE are encouraged by notion that the The first 'responsible' act as adult is to go deeply in debt, in order to be responsible. That makes my eyes cross.



When I was 18, I think it was (a long, long time ago), I got my first credit card (because my girlfriend worked at department store, and she got some kind of bonus for signing a certain number of people up). I used it to buy a single item -- and then when the bill came, I paid it in full. After this my card no longer worked. After standing in line for quite a while I was eventually able to get someone in customer service to explain to me that paying a credit card bill in full generally leads to a closure of the account, that this was standard policy, it was already done, and if I wanted further credit with the store I would have to apply for a new card.

Basically I was punished for doing what came naturally.

This seems to me to be an example of how our world has gone wrong -- and the use of 'credit' in general is definitely a major symptom.

People don't seem to realize or care that they end up spending a lot more for things this way. Many will gleefully enslave themselves to get things now -- never mind how long it will take to pay, or what the real cost becomes.

...And this is how we as a people have been treating our planet. The future, it would seem, is somebody else's problem.


I live in West Virginia, so the electricity powering my computer right now comes from burning coal. One of the ways it's been mined recently has been through a process called 'Mountaintop Removal' -- yes they actually cut the tops off of mountains (the relatively low ones of the Appalachians, the oldest mountain range on Earth) to get down to the layers of coal. They usually do this far from highways, in the 'middle of nowhere', so most people have no idea of the extent of the destruction.

You can see it in satellite images on Google Maps, if you care to look. I'm feeling ill just talking about it, so I'll move on...



WE CANNOT continue like this for much longer.


The good news is, we won't have to.



Yes, it IS an important, seemingly unavoidable step, to first imagine what free energy can do.

The vision WILL catch on -- but it's up to us to spread it.


B-)

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Please do , I know I'd really like that a lot.



Hi Etruscan:

I am somewhat familiar with Blacklight and hydrinos (all ZPF-related, IMO), and Brian O much more so, but free energy physics is not the purpose of my writings or this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=122697&viewfull=1#post122697

Maybe one of the admins or other members that are interested in talking free energy physics (there seem to be quite a few in this forum) can start a thread where free energy physics can be discussed.

Thanks,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Admins:

I think there may be enough votes for a free energy physics thread.

9eagle9, I think that with your senior standing, you may be able to start that thread yourself. See if you can. In Brian O's latest book, The Energy Solution Revolution, the two authors that he referred to the most were "The Australian Orwell" Shaun Saunders and me.

Shaun's Dystopian fiction can be wickedly funny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_A._Saunders

and in the world of Mallcity14, it was everybody's patriotic duty to go into debt. Going deeply into debt (meeting their debt quota) was a sign of being ready to leave the nest. Yes, making debt-aholics is part of the plan. :)

Best,

Wade

[9eagle9]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14129-Free-Energy-Physics&p=138564#post138564

And there it be...looking forward to it.
Moderators if we have misappropriated space, please let us know.

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks for doing that!

[9eagle9]

And some where along the way the notion that credit is created by us, by our signature, lends the equally valid notion that if I created it, its mine... It didn't exist before I put pen to paper.

[Feren]

Mr Frazier:
During the short time I have been researching and studying about this huge spiritual/intelectual (whatever you want to call it) movement that is taking place in our planet, I have found interesting views and projects, such as Zeitgeist Movement and Project Venus, which are also concerned about sustainability, alternative energy and abolition of scarcity. Are in you any way related to these or other positions? If no, are you interested in making contact or joining forces with them? What is for you the role of technology for the developmentvof a sustainable and abundant way of human organisation? I ask this because one of the issues that for many people are to be regarded and critisized about these projects is, might be, certain overloaded faith in science and technology. What would you have to say to this?
Thank you so much for joining this forum. We are all looking forward to know your opinions and to have lots of knowledge and perspectives shared.

[Maria Stade]

Thank you for all that you do and have done.
I will go troug all links as this is of true importants for us all.
Im on page one now LOL
Listening on the intervju with Kerry and Bill !

Namaste

[9eagle9]

Demolition of scarcity can begin now. In small ways but you start up that ladder. Have you ever been in that time of your life where you just had all these "things'. Payment on things, working for things and we do that because we don't have these 'things'. And then you have all these things and you don't have the time or ENERGY to enjoy the things because now you are on the energy waste rat wheel. The things don't replace the energy because even when you have the energy to enjoy the things what they provide in terms of replacing energy isn't very much at all. Then they become a PITA, you can't enjoy them but you still expend energy (work) to keep paying for them. . When you arrive at the tipping point you begin to know all the these things that you thought you needed were a replacement for what's really missing. There is a free means of energy. Because if you don't feel the lack, if you don't want the things...there's no scarcity.

Start evaluating things and see what things are providing for you in terms of energy.

A lot of things we have are because along the way we were conditioned to believe we had to have those things. To prove some sort of point that wasn't ever made clear to me anyway...lol.

The media never has commercials that say "Hey you NEED to have beauty in your life, ART in your life! '. They may have a paid advertisement by an art museum but the media advertising doesn't invest much energy in extolling the virtues of art the way they do tooth whitening toothpastes. We don't see the media presenting an hour long info-merical on how we NEED to have compassion and love. Or Source, or getting in touch with your own spirit. Lol. We never see ads like that.

Hmm maybe we should make one.



Mr Frazier:
During the short time I have been researching and studying about this huge spiritual/intelectual (whatever you want to call it) movement that is taking place in our planet, I have found interesting views and projects, such as Zeitgeist Movement and Project Venus, which are also concerned about sustainability, alternative energy and abolition of scarcity. Are in you any way related to these or other positions? If no, are you interested in making contact or joining forces with them? What is for you the role of technology for the developmentvof a sustainable and abundant way of human organisation? I ask this because one of the issues that for many people are to be regarded and critisized about these projects is, might be, certain overloaded faith in science and technology. What would you have to say to this?
Thank you so much for joining this forum. We are all looking forward to know your opinions and to have lots of knowledge and perspectives shared.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi 9eagel9:

I made my first (and maybe last) post to your free energy thread, to get it rolling.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14129-Free-Energy-Physics&p=138601&viewfull=1#post138601

Good luck with it.

On credit, yes, your debt to another did not exist until you signed up for it! :) Some would say that every American had their birthright sold hundreds of years ago as part of the "deal" of independence from Britain. Boy, that enters hoary realms that I do not like pondering for long.

Hi Feren:
I have written about those groups that you mention earlier in this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=95112&highlight=project+venus#post95112

I am not into faith myself, and there was some banter earlier on this thread about faith and knowledge. The evidence is strong that humanity is the result of technology, and I do not mean it in an ET way.

Taming fire may have led to humanity's ancestors leaving the trees for good, and the evolutionary changes since then (smaller digestive system, larger brain, loss of hair, loss of strength and other changes are directly due to humanity's increasing technological prowess.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

So, when I hear people say that technology is no answer, or they minimize its importance, my reply is, "When was it not important?" Study molecular biology and how respiration and photosynthesis evolved, and life solved some pretty amazing technological problems (all by accident, of course :) )

This is my one-sentence description of the human journey:

“Each epoch of humanity’s past was initiated and sustained by achieving the social organization and technological prowess that enabled the exploitation of previously unextractable energy resources.”

I am not sure that I will ever improve on it. For now, I am trying to make free energy thinkable, that is all. If I can help make that happen, I might just be done. It is a lot harder than you might think.

Best,

Wade

Hi Maria:

Happy reading/listening!

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Ah, 9eagle9, the media will not be leading the party:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

They are all about social control, nothing more.

[Feren]

Mr. Frazier, thank you for your answer. It is very helpful. I have been few hours in contact woth you and you site and I'm alrady having trouble dealing with the huge amount of information you are providing.
I think one of the key issues here is that the supression of scarcity by means of technology depends in a high degree on how we understand and value science. There is the need of a "free science". When I first met Zeitgeist movement's material I was a little bit shocked because of their use of the concept of "scientific method": you don't have to read much of their stuff or watch much of their material to see that they use this concept on the background provided by the idea that if one follows certain mathematical algorithms in the resolution of every problem, the results are to be optimum, ideal. They suggest that in a few decades of hard work we might have perfect world fully managed by computarized systems that, roughly said, "know everything". This "scientific method" is and old and devaluated formula used by those who claim ownership on science and technology and keep us from having access to it in order to maintain the domination system. It has been a while since the scientist noticed that he is not in control of the Universe and that the world was not made in order to be ruled by him.
To rule the world, be it by means of science or by means of political apparatus, is the way of destruction. That's what i think. A free science would recognize the importance of that notion of "scientific method", but would already be in a broader perspective than that.
I only hope my opinion might result useful for the thoughtful and critical. I don't claim truth but perspective: everything must be tested, analized, criticized.

[9eagle9]

I'm thinking, and I've noted this elsewhere. Folks who are capable of creating these sorts of energy solutions are going to educate themselves out of the naivety of how the system works. Or perhaps even put down the dream of making millions from their inventions. It's been proven time and time again that TPTB will shelve any product that is going to provide us with free means of living and take the money out of their belt. Not a new concept its been going on for a long time.

Think how our spiritual technology was shelved thousands of years ago as more religious authorities came into power.

I do 'know' that at some point in the near future someone with that sorts of smarts will turn their back on the system and begin to really underground this stuff instead of attempt to patent it. I mentioned in another thread someplace a form of windmill technology that essentially looks like yard art. So the consumer buys the yard art. No big deal. I'm not even sure yard art needs to be patented..lol. But if the consumer decides to tie their yard art into their electrical grid, hey consumers do weird things.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Feren:

If you begin to get familiar with my work, you will find it vastly different than those other groups. I have never seen any other work like mine, which is why I did it. And my work is not digested in a week, month or year. It can take many years for the meaning to begin to sink in, but that depends on where the reader begins. If the reader is trapped by all of the scarcity-based ideologies that they have been indoctrinated into,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and cannot let go, they will never understand my work. And real learning happens in the field, not by reading a web site. Although I direct people to where they can gain experiences to begin developing a comprehensive perspective:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

everybody has to do the work for themselves. My work is the fruit of a lifetime, and I am only making a bare dent into the subject matter. I know that free energy technology exists, I know what it can do, and I know that humanity is currently unaware of all of that. Collectively, humanity is mired in artificially-induced scarcity by interests that want us dumbed down and enslaved. I hope that enough of us want to be free, and want to do it lovingly, because lovingly is probably the only chance we have of doing it right, or maybe of doing it at all.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi 9eagle9:

Welcome to the party. The most naïve are those trying to get patents. The slightly less naïve are trying to sneak past them in the "underground." You can't sneak up on them. Their Earthly resources are about a trillion times yours. It cannot be done in adversarial fashion. The Global Controllers are, by and large, human. About 99.999% either denies they exist or fixates on them. Both are fearful reactions. I acknowledge them and go about my business, and know that they are watching. If they figure that I am getting a little too successful for their liking, I will hear from them. Until that day, I will keep doing what I am doing. I do not wish them ill. In the big picture, they have been fulfilling a valuable role in Creation. An archangel once told me, long ago, that part of their "job" is to accept the responsibility for all the people who prefer playing the victim game, who don't take responsibility for anything. They are essentially "screwing" us with our own abdicated responsibility. Creators act responsibly, victims do not. Creators act out of love, and victims operate out of fear. It is time for humanity to grow up and begin to act responsibly. When we do, the Global Controllers' task will be complete, and they will be off to their next assignment, and I would be happy to throw their going away party! :)

And I really mean it. That was not a sarcastic comment. Even though they wrecked my life long ago, I harbor them no ill will. Their role has wrecked their souls in ways that I can scarcely imagine. Because of what they did to me, I probably do have some intimate karma with them, and if we get over the hump, part of my future duties may well be ministering to them, and I think that I would be OK with that, as long as I was not too vulnerable to their actions, and in the Houses of Healing, I doubt that I would be.

That story would take far too long to tell tonight, but let's just say that many have twiddled this free energy Rubik's Cube, and the problems truly are not technological, and the pitfalls are infinite:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

Best,

Wade

[9eagle9]

No not sarcastic. I appreciate that and I completely have seen the victim part. I posted as much over in the world peace thread about how we gave responsibility of our health to commercialized medicine, responsibility of our souls to the churches, responsibility of our living wage to someone other than ourselves, and responsibility of what income we did have to banks and finance companies, our choices period to media and advertising that scared the hell out of people because they'd not have a date for Friday not unless they had some sort of weirdo zit creme. We had choices.

I am amazed always at the concerns that people find frightening. I once asked a friend of mine, 'How many times are you going to buy something even though you know already it doesn't' work? You KNOW it doesn't work! Like the magick number will come up and X amount of dollars spent and suddenly it kicks in...lol. That maybe the next time what was promised isn't another lie, a short seduction to your wallet....' so I'm presuming giving up responsibility also becomes a habit. She's now scared NOT to buy products A through Z.

We had choices. Once we begin to know we had choices is when the awakening should begin. I mean once I knew that, that's when I also knew enough was enough.

So We the Consumer began to police each other when someone objected to NOT giving up responsibility for themselves.

There's a way out of this if I didn't truly experience it for myself and truly didn't know that ...well I don't know what I'd do. Live free or die trying I suppose.

And also I appreciate the information given over to me, some fresh ground there. Will take me a few days to read up on all of it...

[Wade Frazier]

We are our own prison guards! Yes, energy = choice, and the GCs know it, that is why the free energy pot is watched like no other.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi All,

Just a few things. It is extremely hard to deprogram a lifetime of conditioning. I know. I kicked and screamed all the way. I gave nothing up by choice (well in a subconscious way I guess I did). Now, with virtually everything gone, you know what I realized? I never needed any of it. Yes I need a roof over my head, but I don't have to own it. Yes I need food, but I don't have to work myself to the bone for it. And that goes for almost everything most people consider valuable today. Hell, Co** Co** (a soft drink) is more valuable than half the countries in Africa! We only need to put things into perspective to see the truth of that statement.

Also, at least 75% (low side in my estimation) of the things advertised are not needed by anyone. That is why they are advertised.

Just some observations.

Peace

[9eagle9]

The good thing Ernie is that which we have "sacrificed " is restored to us ten fold. Perhaps not in the same form, like the material, but the voids are filled. The resistance comes from inside of us.

[Dennis Leahy]

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/A-DesigningtheFutureE-BOOK-small.pdf

See anything about ZPE?

They are mired in layer 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Almost all “progressive” activists are hung up in layers 2 and 3.
...
Best,

Wade
I used to be in the 8th layer; now, I guess I'm somewhere in the 9 to 10 range on this. Where are you, Wade? 13? 15?

Dennis :~)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

You have probably seen me write it already, in order to understand an abundance-based reality, we probably have to shed at least ten thousand years of scarcity-based conditioning. Yes, capitalism, with its attendant illusion of freedom, has to create wants that parade as needs, to keep their greedy merry-go-round going. I made the case in my original site, and I would make it more clearly in a site update: probably at least 80% of all the effort that people in the West do each day is completely worthless, as far as making us healthy, happy, fed, etc. With free energy and the attendant technologies that are kept under wraps, less than one hour of each person's day would be needed to provide the "necessities" for all of humanity, and we would all live at a standard of living that Bill Gates can't even imagine.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

It really is an insane paradigm that we have lived in for so long, and it can take a long, long time to unhook far enough to see its contours and how it infects almost all aspects of our lives. Once the paradigm shift happens, if it happens, most of what we think is worthy will quickly slide into oblivion. The bread and circuses game would be over, and then we could move on to doing the fun stuff. I hope to live to see it, but I would settle for just some progress in its direction, and a lessening of all the raping the name of self-righteousness and "survival." I doubt that Earth will allow much more of this to go on, if nothing else.

Best,

Wade

[Jonathon]

Hi Wade -- just wanted to drop back in and say thank you. Really enjoying the essays - in particular the Medical Racket. So spot on for me. I'm a health care professional myself... which was one of the reasons it was so easy for me to 'wake up'. You have to be deaf, blind and ill not to see what's going on there. Unfortunately, there seems to be more deafness, blindness and illness in medical practitioners than their respective clients.

Beware of the trend for trends. I can't look at a 'trend' without looking for the angle. There always is one.

[Scott]

Hi Scott:

Sorry that we blabbed so long. I don’t know how you determine the real deal from the pretenders, but my real story is a lot deeper than the public one, as you know.

I am interested to see how it turns out.

This will be interview number three, and so far, they seem to be going well. I was not wild about using that medium.


Wade

Wade: You did just fine.
I determine a Real Deal mostly by intuition, since I have been in these fields for so long (25+ years), i have heard most of the sales pitches & good intentioned but ignorant players in the UFO, paranormal and conspiracy fields. That and oh I dunno 1200 pages or so of your well thought out and clearly written website :p

P.S We will be pushing up the broadcast date to February 22 2011 of your 1st interview, which is complete and fully edited.
Interview details in upcoming shows : Wade Frazier - Scaling the Ramparts of the Free Energy Paradigm (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/wade-frazier-scaling-the-ramparts-of-the-free-energy-paradigm.html)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Dennis:

I think that I wrote it somewhere on this thread already, but it is probably easier writing it than finding it. I was in Level 0 (never heard of free energy) until the day after I hit Boston, chasing Dennis and my dream:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

Then, living under the influence of Dennis's incredibly powerful personality, I lived in Level 10, but was eventually disabused of that notion in Ventura. When I signed back up with Dennis in 1996, I think that I was more in Level 12, and I think that Dennis's heart was more in Level 12, but he was trying the Level 10 approach. That is partly why I did not last there long and have been a lone agent ever since. I have pretty much lived in Level 12 since Ventura. I was never really in any of the other levels either, but I have documented them because I saw people in all of them. Thousands upon thousands of interactions gave me that framework.

Once I interacted with people on the free energy issue, they could no longer be a Level 0, but I would say that at least 80% of them were in Level 1, maybe 10% in Level 2, with a few percent in Level 3. Maybe surprisingly, up to 10% were Level 4s. If you just gave them a working free energy device, they would take it and then "believe" that it was possible. :)

I pretty much stopped wasting my breath with Levels 1 to 4 long ago. I leave Level 5s alone, too. I am not going to conquer their fears, and I think it is a fear of abundance more than it is fear that we will blow the planet up. Levels 6, 7 and 9 scare me, because they are the ones who usually come to grim ends (some become Level 13s), and often for no good reason other than their hard-headedness. The Global Controllers can't be beaten at their game, and it is a boy's dream to think that we can. Those would-be heroes, the Level 9-ers, probably end up damaging free energy efforts more than any other group. They usually get gold-rush fever, and few survive the greed-based slaughter-fest that follows. The Global Controllers just sit back and let "nature" take its course, when the Young Warriors get involved.

Level 10 can work, with the right mass. :) But, they can't be the masses that are easily distracted. If you follow this thread, you will get a flavor of all the rabbit holes and distractions that await anybody who tries this stuff. Go into the real world with this stuff, and the current "masses" are truly useless. They have to be awake and loving masses, not the NASCAR/SuperBowl/Soap Opera/Game Show masses.

My progression was as follows: 0, 10, 12. I have known and know of a bunch in Level 13. It is highly-emotionally-challenging to spend any time with those survivors. They certainly don't want the gawking public to poke their noses in, and I leave them alone as best I can. There are some truly great human beings in that group, and some who were naïve and stubborn, and the greedy would usually never get that far along.

I have some 15s close to me, and we interacted with some of the 14s, so you could argue that I am a 15 by association, but I consider myself a 12. There may be some people on Earth today who are 19s, but it is a handful at best, most likely. The UFOs that buzz Mount Adams and elsewhere:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

are probably 16s. Now, where the heck that voice in my head, that launched me on my preposterous journey sits on that scale, I do not know, but is probably above Level 15, and maybe even 17, but I don't seek its counsel anymore. It has some 'splaining to do before I follow its suggestions again.

I hope that helps. :)

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Jonathan:

Glad to see that my Medical Racket essay passed muster with a professional! :)

OK Scott:

I bow to your intuition and experience. :)

Yeah, lots of pretenders can talk a good game.

Best,

Wade

[Reinhard]

Hi Reinhard:

I am not saying that the mechanism is the same, but I would guess that both are tapping the ZPF in a low grade way. That is how I see them similarly, although I am far, far from an expert in assessing such gizmos. Yes, while they are low-level curios, they are probably left alone, although I am sure that the custodians of each have some very interesting stories to tell, that they probably refuse to tell publicly. You can do this stuff and live to tell about it, if you play at those levels. Don’t think that you are not on the radar, however. You are. And if they keep it at the building-sand-castles level, and about every five years they take it out and say “Gee, isn’t that interesting?” before they put it back in the box, then they should be safe, at least from the Global Controllers. The biggest danger is probably from would-be allies, at that stage, who want to help them get to the Big Time with it, or the naïve snoopers. Then it can get, shall we say, interesting. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade,
your high level of personal integrity and commitment to your vision is encouraging.
I threw in the Karpen Pile because I read that Ilie lived in Bucharest. For me there are much more important issues.
For clarification and a more in-depth view, here is my story:
As a politically and action-oriented sociologist , I've always tried to identify the Archimedes' leverage points in society. And pretty fast found the energy issue, about 30 years ago......my, I DID get older....and, hopefully, wiser.....

Do walk the energy talk I started an in-depth research on solar energy. Followed by organizing workshops on how to build your own warm water system. It worked.

Below the attention span of everyone involved, I tried to educate them and myself in parallel processes:
1 the importance of the group in achieving a complex task (utilizing my group dynamics expertise),
2 the importance on respecting nature, self and the fellow man/woman (now I would call it "love"),
3 the awareness and learning on systems-thinking and -acting as opposed to lineal, deductive thinking,
4 and simply: don't miss the point when talking (and writing) should stop and action is required.

Then followed about 20 years of internal consulting in a big German IT Company, always trying to stick to the above mentioned ground rules.

Now I'm facing retirement. Therefore I co-started a group for Free Energy thinkers and tinkerers about 5 years ago. In those 5 years I learned a lot about the different technical possibilities. To the extent that I molded this knowledge into a Powerpoint presentation, in order to highten the awareness of the uninformed. This works out quite well. I learned to be patient, because, "how do you attract people to something they are not aware of...without pushing them and your fate too much?"
One major question I'm offering a dialog on is: "If FE is so important, why the hell don't we hear about it, or can't buy it?" And then I list nearly all the issues you don't get tired about mentioning...and actually had to live through. Man, I'm glad it didn't happen to me!!
Especially the issue of changing to a abundance-based paradigm always elicits vivid debate.

Back to the energy group: There I'm trying to keep a balance between pragmatic tinkering, (quantum) physics and healing topics.
Parallel developments:
a VERY slow build-up of trust betwen the participants;
the serious tinkerers all receive the famous anonymous letter with the order to stay low key;
fear always kicks in;
the group dynamics slowly kicks in and starts to support the individual member;
it is still very hard to strengthen group-work (as opposed to lone-ranger garage tinkering);
the number increases from meeting to meeting (every 2-3 months), more and more women attend;
the members are open for generic dialog on (non-technological) energy;

Wade, thank you for sharing your experiences. I will be even more cautious, and try to not push/lead the tinkerers and developers into the trap you experienced.
Never-the-less, I can not just sit there, collect valuable information, without doing something with it.
I'm convinced that a group-dynamic approach will increase the flow of energy and be an attractor to the increasing number of people who have the intuition that "something" can be done and are ready for a boost of awareness. That raises the vital question: "How can group-dynamics be utilized in a "holographic community" (as Bill calls it)?". I don't have an answer, yet.

I guess, love, building trust and patiently preparing and waiting for the "right time" is key.
Naive curiousness coupled with cautious doing support this level of awareness....at least for me.

Btw, I'm not THAT naive. I am very well aware of being monitored, have been for 30 years. That doesn't bother me much....so, greeting there, too.

Love and light to All

Reinhard

[Wade Frazier]

Reinhard, that was one hell of a post. I probably will not have the time to address it in the depth it deserves today, or maybe even before the weekend, but that was a very rich post that had, for those who have been there and know what to look for, your impressive credentials all over it. It is an honor to meet you in cyberspace.

Together, we may all get to go somewhere interesting. We will see how it goes.

Best wishes,

Wade

[9eagle9]

I'm glad you brought that up, since health care has always been my uppermost focus (so much drama and corruption everywhere if you tried to encompass it all at once you'd implode....) It has is fair share of victims-by-choice too.


I think the most disturbing thing I ever saw was a person who preferred death rather than give up their belief system, or rather their wound. As a natural medicine practitioner I see a lot of people who refuse to give up useless treatments for more natural meaningfull PROVEN cures . People say I dish out imaginary cures but a cure is a cure no matter where it comes from. But the lengths that people will take to hold on to their woundness shocked me. The wound being the place the victim hides in. The two are inextricably entwined with each other.

A friend asked me to treat her aunt’s pressure wound an enormous bedsore that had been there for an astounding ten years. All modern medicine had 'failed' it (I now know why..) A pressure wound is sort of a no brainer but when I seen the woman (not the wound) I gave up immediately. I have successfully facilitated cures in cancers, MS, Parkinsons but when I seen that woman (not her wound) that voice in my head, 'don’t throw yourself down a road that is a dead end from the beginning.'

So,I knew nothing I said or did would make a difference; she wasn’t going to budge from it. She was attached to that bed sore like we are attached to our kids.. It pained her certainly and limited her mobility (she was in a wheelchair..most of the whole problem she wouldn't get out of the damned wheelchair) but it was also her excuse to demand from people, not engage in life and generally keep replicating the notion that life had dealt her a bad hand and everyone should defer to her handicap. It got her a lot of attention, put it that way. And of course people enabled that notion. I mean she wasn’t’ a hateful woman in the least, she was very kind and generous and even wanted to be my host family when I was in the area to see people.. Unsurprisingly she didn’t remark on the fact that I’d traveled from Michigan to treat her specifically but didn’t. Sort of a tacit understanding there. She didn't want anyone curing that wound, and she knew I wasn't about to even waste my time with. We both understood she wanted it even as she complained about it.

Knowing there was nothing I could do to shift this perception, and I wasn’t even going to make the attempt, she remained with her unhealed wound and the safe place it kept her.

One day my friend took her aunt to a doctor who said a hyperbolic chamber would absolutely, without a shadow of doubt help that wound. Everyone rejoiced because now the wound would go away. So they come back from the doctor, and they are excitedly talking about the treatment because within a few weeks time the eternal bed sore would be gone.

Between one sentence and the next the aunt died. Poof, just dropped her head to one side and was gone. No other outstanding health issues. No reason for death, had seen a doctor just ten minutes before. Just boom. Gone.

It was just the place she’d hid at for much of her life, her wound, that supported her victimhood was about to be taken away. She preferred death over losing that. So she just clocked out.

My wake up call in regards to how deep this victim thing goes. It’s like a disease on its own.





Hi Wade -- just wanted to drop back in and say thank you. Really enjoying the essays - in particular the Medical Racket. So spot on for me. I'm a health care professional myself... which was one of the reasons it was so easy for me to 'wake up'. You have to be deaf, blind and ill not to see what's going on there. Unfortunately, there seems to be more deafness, blindness and illness in medical practitioners than their respective clients.

Beware of the trend for trends. I can't look at a 'trend' without looking for the angle. There always is one.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi 9eagle9: Another important post that I can't give justice to today, but let's just say that perhaps the number one reason why people incarnate here is to play the victim game. For many if not most people, it is the ONLY game in town. I am doing what I can to help change that, but as George Carlin said, the most powerful force in the universe is inertia. :)

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

When the iron curtain dropped in Hungary, my parents brought mt grandmother, my mother's mother over for a visit.
I'll never forget when we took her to a store for the first time. She broke down and began to cry, in big sobbing gasps. I had completely forgotten this because I was only about eight years old at the time. When she regained her composure some, she said she had never seen such abundance. All the shelves stocked high with goods reaching almost to the ceiling! She said in Hungary if there was a few loaves of bread on the shelves by afternoon it was considered a miracle. Her sentiments, my words.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Thanks for the story. Yes, this is quite a continent that was stolen from the natives. Forests and soils intact made for easy farming in the early days, and big, strapping people. There was a famous meeting around the conclusion of the American Revolution, where Jefferson, Washington and friends met with the English diplomats. Somebody at the gathering, and I can’t recall who at the moment, made the observation that the biggest difference between the motherland and the new nation was the size of its people. As they looked around, all the British diplomats were about five feet tall, and all the Americans were six footers. It was all in the calories, or energy. Young Japanese women today have the same measurements as American women, which few members of my parent’s generation can probably believe. All those small people of Southeast Asia are small because of a lack of calories, not genes.

My grandparents were driven out of Kansas by the dustbowl:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

and were starving when they finally landed here in Washington in 1935. My grandparents died well-to-do, living atop Queen Anne Hill in Seattle, and I lived with them for six months after college. My grandmother never quite got over her days in the Great Depression, saving string to the end of her days, and other behaviors that reflected her austere past. They food-tortured me, filling me with 3,000 calorie meals every day. Hunger and privation can leave lifelong scars.

As the Eastern Woodlands all fell to the ax, Americans began taking advantage of the water power of the East Coast, and then they discovered coal and the great task of industrializing was underway, as long as those pesky natives could be made to disappear, and Uncle George had a plan:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

Canada had a very similar trajectory, generally following in the USA’s wake. The USA experienced Peak Oil in 1973,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#abundance

and that is also the peak year of wages per hour in the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#decline

The Empire is in decline, and the tent cities springing up around the USA these days is a sign of the times.

I vote for free energy and an end to hunger, want and privation. The election is ongoing, but the tally may not be far off.

Best,

Wade

[9eagle9]

There's nothing new under the sun today. Exchange toxic McDonalds, vaccines, & antidepressants with the small pox blankets and firewater they gave the Native Americans and we have the same thing all over again....now.

Exchange land take overs of tribal hunting grounds with our current epidemic of home foreclosures and you have the same thing over again....now.

Take the 'white' schools Natives were forced into, severing of their spiritual connection, replaced it with with our modern 'dumb-down' public education and suppression of who and what we really are and we have the same thing all over again. ...now.


Nothing has really changed.

[Jonathon]

I'm glad you brought that up, since health care has always been my uppermost focus (so much drama and corruption everywhere if you tried to encompass it all at once you'd implode....) It has is fair share of victims-by-choice too.


That's a great story 9eagle9 - I can SO relate. You are probably just as aware as I am how common these types of stories are. In fact I was thinking of one today. I walked into a client's home (who is an absolute mess BTW - bilateral achilles tendon rupture as a side effect of antibiotics, COPD w/ major shortness of breath etc and so on) and happened to see a copy of a Gerson book on the sofa table. "Yay", I thought -- this is going to be easy! The visit prior, I went through an in depth discussion about his dietary/nutritional needs and means to avert chronic lung infection (since he can no longer take antibiotics). But wouldn't you know it... I walk in and he is eating Ritz crackers with a mixture of mayonnaise and peanut butter (EEEEEEW!!!!) So I bring up the book with something to the effect of "wow that's great you have a copy... excellent information... I know some of Charlotte Gerson's previous clients... wonderful stuff.."

This individual went on and on about how it's all a conspiracy theory... that it would be approved by the FDA if it were legit... that it was a fraud etc and so on (we all know the drill here). Now I'm not one to force my opinion on anyone - I'm all for free will and it's not my job to intercede unless asked. However, I did ask plenty of questions. Turns out, he hadn't read it (go figure). I asked if he felt like a fruit and vegetable diet was dangerous... to be argumentative he said yes. He was backing himself into a corner after a few questions, and, when he began attacking people he knew nothing about and had never met, I knew it was time to stop. He would defend his erroneous position to the grave. I wasn't hard to figure out why as I looked at the crackers and mayonnaise/PB. Uuuck. LOL. Another day, another dollar.

It's truly a psychosis veiled by 'personal belief and opinion'... as if belief or opinion are inherently worth more than the breath they are carried on. It reminds me of the King Theoden of Rohan in Lord of the Rings: Return of the King... totally consumed by the magician's spell.

The following clip is about how patient visits seem to go for me these days (if you don't mind a little exaggeration)... only imagine I have no magic staff and no burly buddies to crack skulls when I walk in :boink::


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3w6c7RUbUs&feature=related

[Wade Frazier]

Hi 9eagle9:

I will agree that nothing has really changed, if we mean that the scarcity-based paradigm is intact, even in history’s richest and most powerful nation. Yes, endless re-iteration of the scarcity drumbeat, while calling it something new and exciting, is monotonous. But all the “progress” made by humans has been about acquiring more energy.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

But it has been under the zero-sum-game aegis. Under an abundance-based paradigm, it can change, and very dramatically. But first, what can be has to be understood:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

Best,

Wade

[Franny]

Wow. I have nothing deep, spiritual or intellectual to say except thank you all for your contributions to humanity, the planet and all the life it supports. It takes people that have cajones, spirit and integrity to do all you have done.


The Global Controllers can't be beaten at their game, and it is a boy's dream to think that we can.

Thatʻs quite a statement -- and the antithesis of what many here believe can be done. But you are one of those that has fought the dragon on itʻs own ground; you have walked the walk. Few have.

Iʻm reminded of Ashleigh Brilliant here:


Be polite to dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup :)

Should we start a new game with new rules? I think of what David Icke said about the pyramid; we are on the bottom holding it up. If enough of us move out of place, it falls. Itʻs a cool metaphor but "moving out of place" takes some careful consideration.



It’s all very simple, or else it’s all very complex, or perhaps it’s neither, or both. Another by AB



I vote for free energy and an end to hunger, want and privation.

I do too and somehow I think abundance and the end of insanity can be achieved. I donʻt know how but I hope and believe that an old worn-out era is coming to a close and a new one will be able to get a good start. Perhaps part of our task is to hold it strongly in our minds and hearts till it grows so big that more and more share the vision without quite knowing how they got there. (Rupert Sheldrakeʻs Morphic Resonance?)

Like running freely toward the goal in the wilderness, instinctively but carefully placing our bare feet on the spot between the rocks and thorns...

[Franny]

There's nothing new under the sun today. Exchange toxic McDonalds, vaccines, & antidepressants with the small pox blankets and firewater they gave the Native Americans and we have the same thing all over again....now.

Exchange land take overs of tribal hunting grounds with our current epidemic of home foreclosures and you have the same thing over again....now.

Take the 'white' schools Natives were forced into, severing of their spiritual connection, replaced it with with our modern 'dumb-down' public education and suppression of who and what we really are and we have the same thing all over again. ...now.


Nothing has really changed.

No, it hasnʻt changed much at all. Russel Means, Indian leader has said that we are all on the reservation now. He has several YT vids, this is one with Alex Jones. He makes all the comparisons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyQtrxLS92A&playnext=1&list=PL4821B577552BFDE4

[9eagle9]

Ditto yours too Jonathan. Yep those folks. I feel like saying sometimes " if you know everything and all about it ....why are you sick? How did you ever get sick in the first place knowing everything that you do." I'm compelled to try to see people in their wholeness but those sorts make it hard.

I have budged a few from those stances, and they go right back. One woman after her chronic shingles went away, went right back on her pharma meds because what I was doing was too 'weird'. Unnatural. Something that didn't work made her feel better.

This is where I start feeling like I'm losing my mind...lol.

I have to say it Jonathan I think your client is pregnant... :eek: I'd say if I wanted to kill someone outright I'd start them on a diet of mayonnaise, PB, and crackers. That has to be a symptom of some inner self hatred. I'm so morbidly fascinated that someone could eat something like that I'm nearly tempted to try it.


**************
That's a great story 9eagle9 - I can SO relate. You are probably just as aware as I am how common these types of stories are. In fact I was thinking of one today. I walked into a client's home (who is an absolute mess BTW - bilateral achilles tendon rupture as a side effect of antibiotics, COPD w/ major shortness of breath etc and so on) and happened to see a copy of a Gerson book on the sofa table. "Yay", I thought -- this is going to be easy! The visit prior, I went through an in depth discussion about his dietary/nutritional needs and means to avert chronic lung infection (since he can no longer take antibiotics). But wouldn't you know it... I walk in and he is eating Ritz crackers with a mixture of mayonnaise and peanut butter (EEEEEEW!!!!) So I bring up the book with something to the effect of "wow that's great you have a copy... excellent information... I know some of Charlotte Gerson's previous clients... wonderful stuff.."

This individual went on and on about how it's all a conspiracy theory... that it would be approved by the FDA if it were legit... that it was a fraud etc and so on (we all know the drill here). Now I'm not one to force my opinion on anyone - I'm all for free will and it's not my job to intercede unless asked. However, I did ask plenty of questions. Turns out, he hadn't read it (go figure). I asked if he felt like a fruit and vegetable diet was dangerous... to be argumentative he said yes. He was backing himself into a corner after a few questions, and, when he began attacking people he knew nothing about and had never met, I knew it was time to stop. He would defend his erroneous position to the grave. I wasn't hard to figure out why as I looked at the crackers and mayonnaise/PB. Uuuck. LOL. Another day, another dollar.

It's truly a psychosis veiled by 'personal belief and opinion'... as if belief or opinion are inherently worth more than the breath they are carried on. It reminds me of the King Theoden of Rohan in Lord of the Rings: Return of the King... totally consumed by the magician's spell.

The following clip is about how patient visits seem to go for me these days (if you don't mind a little exaggeration)... only imagine I have no magic staff and no burly buddies to crack skulls when I walk in :boink::


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3w6c7RUbUs&feature=related[/QUOTE]

[Jonathon]

Wade sorry for hijacking your thread for a moment!


I have to say it Jonathan I think your client is pregnant... I'd say if I wanted to kill someone outright I'd start them on a diet of mayonnaise, PB, and crackers. That has to be a symptom of some inner self hatred. I'm so morbidly fascinated that someone could eat something like that I'm nearly tempted to try it.

LOL I might be inclined to believe you if he wasn't a him. And good god... if you try it, please let me know how it goes - I can'teven stand the thought of it... yuck, yuck, yuck!. Sounds like a 'what's grosser than gross' joke.

[9eagle9]

Thanks for that,Latte. That was some material I received in auto writing, about a year ago. I have a feeling that vid you posted up is going to validate a lot of things for me.


No, it hasnʻt changed much at all. Russel Means, Indian leader has said that we are all on the reservation now. He has several YT vids, this is one with Alex Jones. He makes all the comparisons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyQtrxLS92A&playnext=1&list=PL4821B577552BFDE4[/QUOTE]

[Annacarl]

Wade,
Forgive my ignorance. I am a mother of a 12 year old who is dissecting frogs, fish, pigs just to name a few in science class. I find this incredibly frustrating when they could and should be learning so much more. The PTA sponsors a math and science night. Very little over sight from the facility so we can do just about anything we want. Are there simple experiments that can be done safely by children that would introduce anti gravity or other free energy concepts. We get about 75 to 100 parents and children that attend this event. How could I make it a NIGHT TO REMEMBER? This may be the stupidest question anyone has ever ask you. I just want to help and share this technology. I am just awakening and learning so much over the last 6 months. Somewhere along the way a watched a you tube video that showed how to make a circular anti gravity object out of plywood, screws, nuts and bolts. I have looked for it but cannot find it. My research has led me to so much info via the internet and until now I have not been smart enough to bookmark things I find particularly interesting. I am so alone in my journey and anyone who would listen to the things I have to say want and need proof (including my husband, sisters, friends) bless them they are all wonderful people who think I am a kook and not curious like me. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for the work you are doing. I am just beginning my research on you. Listening to the project camelot interview as I type. You are incredible and the world is a better place with you in it.
Be well,
Anna

[Jonathon]

Hi Annacarl,

I hope I'm not butting in, but this very thought crossed my mind the other day (that being science experiments children could do at fairs). The 1st that came to mind was the microwave water experiment with plants. I have not replicated this experiment, but it would be easy to do. Plant a few seeds in different cups. Water one from a distilled water bottle, one from the tap, one from boiled water on stove top and the last with water boiled in a microwave (perhaps not even boiled - you could do 1 minute and 5 minutes on 2 different cups). Obviously the water is allowed to cool to room temperature prior to use. If the experiment that I have seen is valid, the seed in the microwaved water cups will not grow. Might be a good eye opener if it works.

[Wade Frazier]

To all the other posts, a lot are not for me, so I’ll probably just let most of them pass. My work is comprehensive, so people being their wounds, and so on, is part of the issue.

I’ll say this, Latte, thanks for the kind words, and yes, Brian O and I were rather unusual Camelot witnesses because we do not profess to be insiders, and although both of us have been dragon snacks at times (I caused it a little indigestion), ours is not the warrior path, the divisive path, the secrecy path, the lets go get those bad elites path. Ours is the love path, or at least we try. :) When you get offered a billion dollars to go away, you know you must be doing something “right.” :) I will never advocate coercion, trying to outsmart the Big Boys, and so on. I consider conspiracism the other side of the coin of structuralism, and both play the victim game, not the creator game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

That is not easy to wrap one’s head around, but a loving heart can. More later.

Best,

Wade

Hi Annacarl:

Oh, don’t I wish that free energy was something safe to teach in schools, but that day is not yet here. Instead, children cut up animals in “school.”

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=98429&highlight=goodie#post98429

They depicted ZPE in The Incredibles, and maybe cartoons could be a safe way to introduce it, but if any science teacher got wind of trying to introduce ideas like free energy and anti-gravity to schoolchildren, they have taken children away from the parents in the USA for less. This is dangerous stuff, on several levels.

What Jonathan is suggesting is safer, but anything that challenges establishment science in schools will be branded lunacy at best, and there has been an incredible amount of punishment doled out over stuff like that, too.

Be careful,

Wade

[Annacarl]

Hi Wade,
Wow. I guess ignorance is bliss...just too late for me now. Boy do we have along way to go. I will look at the cartoons. Good idea. I just found Brian O'Leary's place in Ecuador via your website. Beautiful! Maybe I should just mind my own business and take my family for an educational trip to the rain forest. Educate ourselves and then share our experience... probably the best way for me to help the planet.

Jonathon, Thanks for the microwave idea. Does not have the WOW factor I was looking for but it sounds like I better just forget all about that!! I do kinda like my kids... or at least one of them!!! He He

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Reinhard:

Well met. Not many like you out there, as you know, and it gives me great pleasure to respond to your post. I have a little time this morning.

Yes, energy is the BIG leverage point, which is why that lever is watched so closely, as you know. It ALL depends on it.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

Direct solar can work in neat ways. When I chased Dennis out to Boston,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

the family we lived with built their own solar home in the 1950s (the family patriarch was an MIT researcher). The house has some kind of historical status now. If you did not mind turning the south wall of your home (they oriented it so the south wall was the long wall) into a solar collector, it was one heck of a way to heat your home. That place stayed warm in the dead of a hard New England winter (as long as it was a sunny day :) ).

Your small group organizational work is important, I think. Systems thinking is a key, and so on. In American IT, it is probably less supple than what you did, especially in Microsoft’s dog-eat-dog backyard. On Christmas Day, I was talking with a mathematics guru whom Bill Gates once visited because of one of his discoveries, and we were discussing how Microsoft probably won’t be able to change its predatory DNA in time to avoid going the dinosaur route before long. I do PM work myself, but am more of a systems-thinking, technically-competent nerd instead of a nurturing facilitator.

Watching Dennis organize the trajectory from a few volunteers to hundreds of people in a few months was amazing. What he is notorious for is not what he should be known for (his talents are legion), but it comes with that territory.

On your PowerPoint efforts of engaging the public, yes, that is a difficult but worthy tightrope to walk. When I was with Dennis, in the middle of gung-ho efforts, three-ring circus can’t begin to describe it. I have seen the best twiddle that Rubik’s Cube every way it can be twisted, and not just Dennis. Your efforts to raise public awareness interest me, and I am sure that you could share a lot in that area. Interesting on the abundance-based paradigm discussions. If you are willing, you may be able to help when I really try to get something going. Right now, I think I am just hunting for people like Ernie and Ilie for when class really begins. Again, I am planning on being low-profile enough where the attention will not be overt, but it will have a public profile. But I completely understand if you run the other way. :)

On your, “Glad it was not me!” observation, here is a little story for you. December 1988 was easily the worst month of my life.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

Dennis was in solitary confinement, I was driving to LA of all places, going blind reading microfiche in the basement of a large security company, reconciling a garnishment account, trying to scrape up enough money to file for bankruptcy, people close to me were in hiding, I was being betrayed by friends and family right and left, the local newspaper was filled with lies about us, and so on. That was when I saw myself killing people, and liking it. That was the most horrifying part of the journey, especially for a staunch pacifist. I am a tested pacifist! :)

Anyway, I had one close friend who did not abandon me or betray me in those days. There were not many. One night, soon after I got a bewailing call from one of those in hiding, that friend called me, to see how it was going. :) After a couple minutes of hearing the news, he said, in a very heartfelt way, “Boy, I am glad I am not you!” :) I understood. I did not want to be me, either! A “funny” part of that story is that I got a job in LA of all places (after having left So. Cal. twice before, never wanting to see the place again – it looks like the third time was the charm), and I went to work for a medical lab in late December, just before they got a similar treatment to what Dennis received in Ventura!

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

I am not sure that I will ever be let in on what bizarre joke was being pulled on me.

Coming out the other side of that meat grinder gave me some rather unique perspectives, but here is one of the crazy parts of journeys like that. That friend, ever since, tried to compete with me in our understanding of how the world works. Prophets have no honor in their hometowns. Hearing war stories from the participants, even as the war is being waged, is nothing like being on the battlefield, but in virtual-reality America, such are our delusions. He wanted to engage me in a contest that I had no interest in participating in. It was like a five-year-old challenging his father to an arm-wrestling contest, daily. God, that was tiring. My impatience Achilles’ heel got a vigorous workout in those days.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

I had to eventually end the friendship, the final straw coming when he called me one day to cheer the American bombing of Yugoslavia:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#friends

To this day, he attacks me when he can. He used to only try to attack me through my family, but lately he has done it publicly. His behavior has been criminal at times. That stuff can be far harder to take than the evil acts of the authorities.

On the tinkerers, I’ll tell you another little story. As you have probably read, I was mentored by a latter-day Tesla:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction

who was the closest thing to an altruistic inventor that I ever met, which misled me about inventors for many years. I did not begin to figure it out until I met Mr. Inventor:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor

His heat storage equipment ended up in a barn that I wrote about earlier in the thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=125095&highlight=ellensburg#post125095

When he told me how the inventors’ groups always worked, with every inventor trying to manipulate them into supporting his invention:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor1

I did not know what to make of it, and filed it away. Ironically, he was the ringleader in trying to extort money from us in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#extortion

Mr. Inventor even called me and threatened me one night, in the middle of the Ventura mayhem, while also trying to convince me that Dennis was a crook who had just fled town. Boy, this sure brings back memories! :)

It took me another ten years after the Ventura nightmare to finally figure inventors out. On the free energy front, the only prayer that the inventor route has is for the inventor with the goods to give it to a worthy group. I have never met the inventor with the goods willing to give it away, and I have never met the worthy group. And even if an inventor like that ever found the worthy group to give it to (I have never seen or heard of a group that remotely had the right stuff), then the fun would probably only begin and the Global Controllers might have to start digging a little deeper into their bag of tricks. I hope that nobody ever sees what is in the bottom of that bag.

I think that to just be aware, and move cautiously like you do, is prudent and can be helpful. Raising awareness is the key, I think, and the time may become right faster than any of us think. But, this is a conundrum like no other.

I imagine that you are already seeing the downsides of me interacting with the public in this way. It is inspiring all sorts of thinking and behavior that scares me. Damn, that Bunny kills, and in many ways! It looks like the Young Warriors

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

are already beginning to gather. I may be making a mistake in engaging the public in this way, and at least some of that is on my side. I am not a three-ring-circus ringmaster, but that is what this seems to be quickly turning into.

I’ll give you a little more information on Mallove’s murder.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

Bearden and Greer believe that his murder was because he was getting a little too close to the sun, playing the DC game without, as Greer called them, “countermeasures.” As I recall, Mallove’s body was discovered about 10:30 PM EDT, on May 14th. The previous weekend, we had a board meeting at Brian’s house to get the conference going:

http://www.newenergymovement.org/recapsa1.php

which I provided the initial funding for. Most of the board knew Mallove, so he was the first person to commit as a conference speaker. The next week was a strange one, as I began funding the professional mastering of NEM’s site. I think that we were being bombarded with that mind-attacking psychotronic equipment that Greer has written about.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#attack

I think that they did it then, and also immediately after the conference. I was in emotional agony already, in the throes of my midlife crisis, but in those two periods it seemed that somebody was turning up the knobs a notch or four. I was working twelve-hour days at my day job and coming home to trying calming the NEM waters. By Friday evening, May 14th, I got things back under control, and received a conciliatory email from a board member, thanking me for hanging in there. That board member was a famous intuitive, and wrote me that we might be under “psychic attack.” I still have the email, which I received at 9:37 PM PDT. That email was being written right around the time that Mallove’s body was discovered. We all found out about it the next morning. In retrospect, that was the beginning of the end of my involvement with NEM, but there were plenty of other dynamics at play. Brian O almost disappeared after that, and moved to Ecuador a few months later. He later publicly cited Mallove’s murder as a key event in his decision-making process. I sympathize.

Thanks for simply lending your awareness to these issues. It helps.

Best,

Wade

[Reinhard]

Wade,
thank you for your profound answer. And thank you for going through the meat grinder for me....and for some others....since we are all one.
To cut the answer short: of course, I would be glad to help/participate. Just let me know how. In any case, I can keep you in the loop about my current work with the energy group, I described, if you find it helpful.
To complete my personal picture:
Let me mention a few more basic assumptions / ground rules I have been trying to apply in my work...they might help your endeavour....:
* I try to detect / visualize processes (as opposed to strings of unrelated events), e.g. learning processes
* that entails to describe the past, extract the negative AND positive conclusions, put the past in the "archive", define the learning points,
* I always insist on finding a balance between negativ and positive learnings, since it is so tempting to dwell in the negative (fear evoking) aspects; the creative energy lies in the positive (loving) aspects,
* a living process breathes.. ....e.g. talking / doing...or: diverting/converting.......
* I like to be prepared to give the right impulses at the right time. This helps to boost up the relevant processes.

I haven't been very succussful, yet, in speeding up processes....maybe it's not possible...but I'll keep trying...

..............all of this is aimed at facilitating co-evolution. I'm not cut out to be a revolutionary.

I hope, this makes sense.

Best regards, Reinhard

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Reinhard:

I am not cut out to be a revolutionary, either. :) In this field, the only "revolutionaries" that have a chance can successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

the rest of us are support staff. :)

I understand your approach, and it is one reason why I am getting reticent here. What I want to teach has barely been broached in this thread so far. The Big Boys are an important but tiny part of the big picture. In the end, they are insignificant. But because humanity has collectively abdicated its responsibility, their existence is either denied or obsessed upon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

Both are victim-oriented reactions. Overcoming those dysfunctional, fearful reactions is a prerequisite to even beginning the important lessons, but almost nobody has ever graduated that far, so somebody like a Dennis, for instance, ends up spending all of his time establishing his credibility with his audience and the conversation stays at the denial/obsession stage, and it becomes a circus. Dennis would love to teach level 8 lessons, but almost nobody can, or probably even wants to, reach level 3. If we collectively woke up just a little, the Big Boys would slink away. No need to fight them. In fact, they relish the fight and, believe me, they hold all the fighting cards.

The would-be heroes of free energy also get wrapped up in all that, trying to scale the ramparts, etc., and almost everybody with any acquaintance with the milieu is caught up the spectacle, the national TV shows, the circus, the gold rush, the "skeptics," and the million-and-one distractions. I almost don't even want to talk about free energy, because the conversation ends up going down the many rabbit holes. That is part of the conundrum. :)

My game is teaching comprehensive thinking, which I hope to get a chance to do before long, and we'll see how it goes. The more comprehensive thinkers, the more of a chance that we collectively have.

Glad that you are out there. If you want to send me information on your process, etc., I'll happily take it. But, for now, as far as help goes, just hang loose for now. We will see what the year brings.

Best wishes,

Wade

[Billy]

Blessings Wade and great to meet you, I remember a time when i would have replied, " Now were cooking on Gas " as a term of, " now we are getting somewhere" Thank goodness that does not seem appropriate now :-)
Just now internet access is limited for me, therefore i dont really have the time to research all the links you have provided, you may have covered this already, i apologize if you have, but can i ask you what you think of the work of John Searl.

Bless you. Billy

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Billy:

Long story on Searl. The short answer is I don't know if he has anything. Dennis used to give him money back in the 1990s. About a year ago, I was almost forced to watch that recent documentary on him, and was I ever mad when it was over. That was almost a textbook case in how to not make a documentary on something like that. I am not sure what TV network that was made for, but the spooky soundtrack made it seem like Sci-Fi channel. They showed footage of them working on Searl's discs, but not one second of footage of one in flight. The only image of the disc in "flight" was a still photo from a newspaper clipping that they kept showing over and over. They showed a roomful of alleged documents, but the only one they showed was a pretty meaningless inquiry from the RAF. Almost the whole show was Searl talking, and when he started saying stuff like "protect my inventor's rights," the usual big red flags went up, as far as maybe why he never got anywhere. If they were trying to make a documentary to discredit him, they could have not done much better, but it was amazing how much positive buzz that documentary generated.

Best,

Wade

[K626]

Good stuff Wade haven't had the chance of a proper read through yet, but as you know the real issue right now is scarcity based capitalism, value decresing with overproduction or over abundance of key items in the grid : energy, food, tech.

Take care,

K

[Wade Frazier]

Hi K626:

From an energetic and real economic perspective, there is not an over-capacity issue, or everybody on earth would be fat and happy with not much that they really had to do. If you mean that for the societies that control the energy (and those that do not control the sources don't get much), for their relatively primitive technologies, they have all that the upper classes can handle, and the current "crisis in capitalism" is an exchange-related idea of who gets what amongst the "haves," then I will agree. But that is not a real abundance situation, but a contrived one that fails to measure the energy impoverishment of the majority of humanity, the real price that capitalist/industrialist practices extract from our fellow species and the ability of the ecosystems to sustain humanity. An economy that is burning up its primary resource perhaps a million times as fast as it was created is anything but "abundant." In real economics parlance, that is called exuberant:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

Abundance looks a lot different:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

Thanks for the observation. That is an important one.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Could we get a vision going? :)

I think the initial parameters should be along these lines:
- every human being has access to vast amounts of energy wherever he may be on the planet (or around the planet)
- this energy is harmless to the environment (including the human body)
- various energy converters are available so you can power anything you can think of
- transportation methods vary from a walk in the park to Stargates.
- food is produced as needed with zero environmental impact, in harmony with nature and our bodies: ask and you will have it, or better yet think of it and you will have it :).
- any raw material can be “replicated” with the energy-matter converters, no need for mining operation anymore
- everything is open source: from science to spiritual practices; you have public access to all current knowledge
- you are healthy and energized
- you can use virtual reality environments to have any kind of experience you want without having a negative impact on others

How would you spend your second day in such a place? Because the first day you would replicate food, money and gold until your mind and body get the abundance paradigm ;)

[Reinhard]

Hi Reinhard:

I am not cut out to be a revolutionary, either. :) In this field, the only "revolutionaries" that have a chance can successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

the rest of us are support staff. :)

I understand your approach, and it is one reason why I am getting reticent here. What I want to teach has barely been broached in this thread so far. The Big Boys are an important but tiny part of the big picture. In the end, they are insignificant. But because humanity has collectively abdicated its responsibility, their existence is either denied or obsessed upon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

Both are victim-oriented reactions. Overcoming those dysfunctional, fearful reactions is a prerequisite to even beginning the important lessons, but almost nobody has ever graduated that far, so somebody like a Dennis, for instance, ends up spending all of his time establishing his credibility with his audience and the conversation stays at the denial/obsession stage, and it becomes a circus. Dennis would love to teach level 8 lessons, but almost nobody can, or probably even wants to, reach level 3. If we collectively woke up just a little, the Big Boys would slink away. No need to fight them. In fact, they relish the fight and, believe me, they hold all the fighting cards.

The would-be heroes of free energy also get wrapped up in all that, trying to scale the ramparts, etc., and almost everybody with any acquaintance with the milieu is caught up the spectacle, the national TV shows, the circus, the gold rush, the "skeptics," and the million-and-one distractions. I almost don't even want to talk about free energy, because the conversation ends up going down the many rabbit holes. That is part of the conundrum. :)

My game is teaching comprehensive thinking, which I hope to get a chance to do before long, and we'll see how it goes. The more comprehensive thinkers, the more of a chance that we collectively have.

Glad that you are out there. If you want to send me information on your process, etc., I'll happily take it. But, for now, as far as help goes, just hang loose for now. We will see what the year brings.

Best wishes,

Wade

OK. We'll see.

Best wishes

Reinhard

[K626]

Hi K626:

From an energetic and real economic perspective, there is not an over-capacity issue, or everybody on earth would be fat and happy with not much that they really had to do. If you mean that for the societies that control the energy (and those that do not control the sources don't get much), for their relatively primitive technologies, they have all that the upper classes can handle, and the current "crisis in capitalism" is an exchange-related idea of who gets what amongst the "haves," then I will agree. But that is not a real abundance situation, but a contrived one that fails to measure the energy impoverishment of the majority of humanity, the real price that capitalist/industrialist practices extract from our fellow species and the ability of the ecosystems to sustain humanity. An economy that is burning up its primary resource perhaps a million times as fast as it was created is anything but "abundant." In real economics parlance, that is called exuberant:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

Abundance looks a lot different:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

Thanks for the observation. That is an important one.

Best,

Wade

Thanks for your considered reply my friend.

We're gonna get into it, but I must have a good look at all the fascinating stuff you have up.

I must say I'm really wowed by how you have traversed such vast areas of information and debate.

To be clear, I am talking about 'the haves' dominant world view, which is crippling for the planet and also as Marx pointed out (seems like ages ago ha ha) that the means of production and the dispersal of assets would remain sabotaged by the controlling group to keep prices high. How monopolies would grow bigger and more cumbersome and ingrained in dogma and blind to a more enlightened world view (well something like that anyway).

The building of trading blocks (8 billion people per block) is the way the elite want to roll....EU, nafta and so on...This allows proliferation of pricing/assets/labour and new ideas at the periperiphery vulernable to colonisation as the blocks enlarge to bring them in. Wtiness the recent hi jinx with Poland and the EU...(Then of course artificial value is overlaid).

I would also point to Soros (a veritable insider) who alerted to the paucity of assets/goods and finance getting back out to the periphery as he knows, once the money stops going back out the center collapses...

cheers

K

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Ilie:

That was brilliant. I think that you have the vision. Mine (which looks something like yours :) ) has long been a combination of just thinking about what free energy can readily catalyze:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

What Roads saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and what Roddenberry saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek

and then along came Fuller:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

I think that if enough people can just wrap their minds around that stuff, we could be more than halfway there.

FYI, a friend wants me to contribute a chapter or two to his upcoming book, and last night he asked if I would be willing to “debate” Heinberg’s latest:

http://richardheinberg.com/225-earth%e2%80%99s-limits-why-growth-won%e2%80%99t-return

I replied:

“Ah, I can’t go against Heinberg. He has establishment science on his side. Brian is the guy who tries to make FE scientifically respectable. I am from the activist side of the house and say, ‘I don’t care about the data and theories of “White Science,” because I have played at levels where I got to peek behind the Wizard’s curtain. I know that free energy exists, but is suppressed.’ What I then get from the Heinbergs of the world is, ‘I don’t believe you, and you will never uproot me from my armchair to find out more, either.’ They are almost mutually exclusive worlds. That is a big part of the problem.”

One of the big reasons why I write is so people can have an antidote to the neo-Malthusian drumbeat of, “We need to get rid of 6 billion excess humans.” Heinberg and friends are unreachable, in my experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm

Hi K626:

Whether it is capitalism or Marxian thought, that game is scarcity. Bucky Fuller saw through them quite brilliantly long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#scarcity

An abundance-based paradigm is something totally different. What Ilie posted up is what I am talking about. Yes, the “dominant group” keeps the chips flowing its way, which is something that I know all too well. :)

If enough people could comprehend abundance, it would be game over for the “haves,” because we would all be “haves.”

Best,

Wade

[jegz]

Hi wade..I too have been checking out your site since your interview on projectcamelot, and I must say, yours has been wuite a journey..I do hope that despite your view that its gonna be hard to make a DIY free energy device, that conditions be right for such a situation to occur

[K626]

Thanks Ilie:

That was brilliant. I think that you have the vision. Mine (which looks something like yours :) ) has long been a combination of just thinking about what free energy can readily catalyze:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

What Roads saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and what Roddenberry saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek

and then along came Fuller:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

I think that if enough people can just wrap their minds around that stuff, we could be more than halfway there.

FYI, a friend wants me to contribute a chapter or two to his upcoming book, and last night he asked if I would be willing to “debate” Heinberg’s latest:

http://richardheinberg.com/225-earth%e2%80%99s-limits-why-growth-won%e2%80%99t-return

I replied:

“Ah, I can’t go against Heinberg. He has establishment science on his side. Brian is the guy who tries to make FE scientifically respectable. I am from the activist side of the house and say, ‘I don’t care about the data and theories of “White Science,” because I have played at levels where I got to peek behind the Wizard’s curtain. I know that free energy exists, but is suppressed.’ What I then get from the Heinbergs of the world is, ‘I don’t believe you, and you will never uproot me from my armchair to find out more, either.’ They are almost mutually exclusive worlds. That is a big part of the problem.”

One of the big reasons why I write is so people can have an antidote to the neo-Malthusian drumbeat of, “We need to get rid of 6 billion excess humans.” Heinberg and friends are unreachable, in my experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm

Hi K626:

Whether it is capitalism or Marxian thought, that game is scarcity. Bucky Fuller saw through them quite brilliantly long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#scarcity

An abundance-based paradigm is something totally different. What Ilie posted up is what I am talking about. Yes, the “dominant group” keeps the chips flowing its way, which is something that I know all too well. :)

If enough people could comprehend abundance, it would be game over for the “haves,” because we would all be “haves.”

Best,

Wade


As the great tree held me in her huge gentle protective arms it imparted a sadness to me and in that moment I understood that I was not only earth, but that a part of me was sky. That the universe was created in a song and that song was within me. That when I looked up at the night sky and the frission of all those dead stars that I was looking back in time and this was a great gift, that I was self-aware and the great tree felt it so and I felt the moment of her knowing and in that knowing she held me a little tighter.

That I knew the universe lived in a dream and its song cried out across the void and it waited there in the mists and the nebula for an analogue but for a long long time there was no answer, nor reprise, no echo and everything in that first moment was in the balance, but the first moment held.

And I looked up at the sky and back at the forest (where I was born) and I looked into my heart where the song lived and saw that now my heart was divided.

I am Shamen the planet is safe.


Peace

K

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Jegz:

The ideal would be for somebody to DIY it. However, those who got one running, "DIY," either had millions of dollars in equipment (think Trombly http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly ), had the technical chops but were naïve (think Sweet http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet ), or kind of stumbled into it (think that fellow traveler http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#traveler ). They all paid a heavy price for their breakthroughs. Also, all of those were a long, long way from being able to power a home. That is big bucks to get something like that done. Western homes have very particular electricity needs (the frequency has to be something like to the thousandth of a cycle per second, for appliances and electronic gear to work off of it) that a DIY job may never meet.

We don't DIY computer chips or any other electronics, not from scratch. The best that a DIY effort will do, probably, is get some proof of concept devices out there in enough places so that it can't be denied, and maybe that day will come, but it is a lot harder than it looks, and nobody has ever come close yet, despite all the optimism. I have seen that optimism for many, many years, and we discuss it some in next week's interview. I turned away from the spectacle a while ago, and am trying something different.

Can a million garage inventors do it? I doubt it, but I would be the first to cheer. If there were just one million people engaged enough on these issues, just in their minds, we would have had free energy long ago. I am only shooting for a thousand, to start. If awareness is raised enough on these issues, it will not have to be DIY, but we can have it like we do all the other high tech stuff, from a quality-controlled factory environment. And yes, this is all part of the conundrum, and the Global Controllers know it well.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks K.

Wade

[K626]

Thanks K.

Wade

I think there is a cycle Wade and that in that cycle there is a window of oppurtunity to make the quantum leap (in mindset) and in real time (space). It is perhaps that when things become precarious we already should have started out in the finding of another world....To take the pressure of this planet to an extent...What do you feel?

Nature has always had the remendy for over population, but we have possibly overcome her?? But that in itself is possibly our destiny...

cheers

K

[Wade Frazier]

Hi K626:
You are opening up a very big subject, and big subjects are my specialty. :)

However, I don't have the time to begin to plumb those depths today. Here is the very short version of what I believe on that issue (and it is more than believing for a lot of it, but calling them "beliefs" makes it easier for people to choose their own perspectives on these issues).

1. Earth has been the hostess with the mostest, to take on humanity;

2. Earth has her own destiny, and it is of the light;

3. Hosting humanity has been rather painful for Earth, especially during the Industrial Age;

4. Earth will heal, with or without humanity helping; however;

5. Helping to heal Earth is really helping to heal ourselves;

6. Those who truly care about the Earth (and any living being, BTW) are going to participate in a great healing that is just around the corner, and arguably has been in its early stages for the past fifty years or so. Those who choose to not join in the healing will follow their own path, and that path most likely does not entail staying with Earth in the next phase (4th dimensional, Ascended, Paradise Restores, and many other names over the years), and it likely does not mean that their incarnational cycle is finished, either;

7. Earth is reaching the end of her contract of hosting a dualistic battle of darkness and light, and the darkness will not find a home in Earth's next adventure;

8. Humanity is not indigenous to Earth, but most Earth-bound humans today have called Earth home for many physical lives; however;

9. Today, many souls are here on special assignment to help humanity "get over the hump," and there is also a very loyal opposition, ultimately working on behalf of the Creator on their own special assignment (we have probably all seen this movie before), trying to keep as many as possible from getting over the hump – they call it a "challenge" in Creator School. :)

10. This light/dark schism/healing is being played out on many levels; within each of us, in the Global Controllers' circle, and possibly even galactically and beyond; but I will settle for us just getting our Earthly house in order;

11. We can come to a place of total harmony with Earth, and we can all ride the transition gracefully, if we so choose;

12. If there is an evacuation, it will only be an emergency measure and will be a sign that we are not yet ready to paddle our own canoes. The dark team has all sorts of contingency plans for their survival and escaping the consequences of their actions, but nobody can escape themselves or the results of their actions.

13. All the above could be wrong, and we will all come to grim ends, and soon; however, I choose to think that we can right the ship, and quickly, if enough of us brought our best to the table - whole in heart, whole in mind. I also think that for those who choose to help, much will be given, but, as at least my life has shown me, much will be asked (whoever sent me here is going to have a long talk with me at some stage of this game; my "faith" is not as great as others I know - or perhaps the limits of my integrity – I don't want humanity to be saved from itself by a handful of hero/martyrs – we need to help ourselves – that is a key part of the lesson, I believe, and it can really be fun if we let it be).

Anyway, that is what I have time for at the moment. I am not sure if it began to answer your query, but I think that we are supposed to ride this out on Earth; it is a key part of the journey and lesson.

Best,

Wade

[Hughe]

Free energy is for real Pandora's box for humanity has to recover.

There is a big misunderstanding free energy equals unlimited power. It doesn't work that way. It just uses field energy in the space. A good example is to look at universe is a big sea, and water is field energy. Without burning static matter, free energy technologies extract energy (water) in space (sea) and convert it to usable energy format (electricity).

If you are really good at advanced mathematics (3/4 year of university math) and solid understanding of physics, you can easily find out physics papers of explaining how the ZPE (Zero Point Energy) and energy in vacuum exists. I'm pretty sure most prominent scientists already knew it but they just kept their mouth shut and put the general public in blind over one hundred years.

Under the black projects, free energy technologies have been throughly investigated and developed. TPTB will keep it secret till their end because decentralization of energy means end of the total control. They can't tax them cause people will live independently forming small communities and enjoy their living.

Any person who claims his/her free energy device works should bring with a formula that explains and be used to analyze / design the device. I never seen one yet. All of those on Internet tells tweaking and fine tuning would make the device works. Well, I don't buy these cause energy generation is serious business and must have solid theory to back up. This is the big dilemma free energy community has. TPTB enjoys this situation. Debunkers and skeptics always love to crush inventors. It has been proved so well.

Even, John Bedeni and Tom Bearden, whom I have great respect, wouldn't show formula on their publications. I'm curious why? John Bedeni began to sell ready-made kits few years ago.

I met a legendary engineer / inventor who self-taught, built an airplane/submarine/complex machines for government research center few years ago. I thought I could get some help - engineering side and machine building - from him and talked about free energy stuff, the one I was going to build. I hit the wall very hard. I knew he was open-minded and creative thinker but he wouldn't accept the concept beyond the energy conservation law.

Only possible scenario of free energy realization I see is an individual or a group of people release an energy device with solid theory and few formulas in public domain. The device only requires regular materials that any body can find / buy from local shops. Let's see a 60W generator, size of an alternator which needs ten components from radio shack / hardware stores. I have the formula to increase output and tweak performance so that I can build a real 1.5KW to 2KW generator within time frame and money. Some might start selling them or provide installation service to house owners. Some companies might build an electric car with this device.

It will spread out like wild fire from 2nd/3rd world countries because the regulations are not strict.

By the way, the big question I have is people can negotiate and cut down their desires for bigger community in general?

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Hughe:

By the posts in this thread, I think that I am working off karma by being mentored by a latter day Tesla and being the partner of the PT Barnum of free energy.

I am not interested in, and I am pretty sure they are dead ends, to go the inventor, DIY, capitalist, grass roots tinkerer, etc., etc., routes to free energy. I think that we inquisitive apes just can’t help ourselves from thinking that we can go in our garages and solve the world’s energy problems with our clever hands. It ain’t gonna happen that way, I think, and even if it did, it is not a path that I have any interest in. I am trying to do something different, but virtually everybody is stuck in tinkerer mode.

Best,

Wade

[K626]

Hi Hughe:

By the posts in this thread, I think that I am working off karma by being mentored by a latter day Tesla and being the partner of the PT Barnum of free energy.

I am not interested in, and I am pretty sure they are dead ends, to go the inventor, DIY, capitalist, grass roots tinkerer, etc., etc., routes to free energy. I think that we inquisitive apes just can’t help ourselves from thinking that we can go in our garages and solve the world’s energy problems with our clever hands. It ain’t gonna happen that way, I think, and even if it did, it is not a path that I have any interest in. I am trying to do something different, but virtually everybody is stuck in tinkerer mode.

Best,

Wade

Bloody tinkerers!! :couch2:

Think when it comes and it might aleady be here, it will come from the mains and it will be taxed, under the current paradigm that is the only way it will get off the ground. Simply put if they can make money from it, it will magically appear.

K

[Luke]

Mod hat on:

The posts that went the "let's make the corporation and beat them in their game" course have been moved here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14473-Making-a-stand-Free-Energy-commentary

Thank you for your attention.

[wolf_rt]

Yes, if only a few groups like the Venus Group woke up to the free energy reality and potential, this could become a downhill racer. But like Brian said in our interview (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#brian ), nearly everybody with any connection to the issue digs their heels to protect their interests in their scarcity-based niche. Abundance literally would end the world as they know it.

When you begin to sail in the waters, you see that 99.9% of the population is in complete denial, and groups like the Venus Group see free energy as the enemy.


I am beginning to see that the mindset of scarcity really is the elephant in the room.

since the age of 15, (14 years ago) i have been making shallow studies of every subject that i can think of. I think i finally have a usable comprehension of what is going on, and where we stand at the moment.

This is my current understanding: the 'Elite's' game is nearly completely lost. There current mindset of control is flawed and will become farcical in the new age. They now know this and don't know what to do about it.


I imagine some say "we must take a steady hand (to avoid being unseated), and guide the population into the new age (the ego hoping it can find a new leadership position)"
Others surely say "we have failed, we must make sure humanity survives our rule, we must share with them what we know to assist them"
No doubt others still will refuse to admit the game has finished, and go down fighting.

These people have the most experience in the history of earth at the manipulation of public opinion. They are fully aware of the abundance of the universe, i imagine there conundrum is how to stop the capitalist behemoth without sending humanity back to the stone age.

My point is, if a SIMPLE and self evident plan can be formulated, as to how to allow us to move forward, then i believe there would be receptive ears in the most unlikely of places. If a plan is timely, simple and self evident, then it can become a vision, and a vision is what we need here.

perhaps we should see what lessons the industrial revolution can tell, about the best way to implement a new vision? <- Thats not a rhetorical question

Surely, above all else here at Avalon, it is our duty to devise this plan.

I think it is evident that we have reached a tipping point, surely the worst thing we can do is nothing.

Surely we can use the very mechanism that have been created to control us to free us? Spiritually uplifting propaganda, if you will.

After thinking about this post i thought that perhaps I'm just buying into the controller mentality, but while we live in a creation of our collective unconscious, there still need to be physical devices to implement our collective will, hence a plan.

It just seems to me if the only thing standing between humanity and armageddon, is sufficiently enlightened individuals creating 'there' own reality on a person by person basis, then we will never reach the critical mass of consciousness required to save the majority of humanity from death. but if we can make a 'program' to introduce the 'vision' to the global population, then perhaps we stand a chance.

Any thoughts? don't be afraid to criticize my thinking here, its just an idea, i would value any critique.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that it was this lecture by Nassim Haramein (http://vimeo.com/17212979) that really open my eyes to the fact of free energy.

[Reinhard]

Hi Hughe:

By the posts in this thread, I think that I am working off karma by being mentored by a latter day Tesla and being the partner of the PT Barnum of free energy.

I am not interested in, and I am pretty sure they are dead ends, to go the inventor, DIY, capitalist, grass roots tinkerer, etc., etc., routes to free energy. I think that we inquisitive apes just can’t help ourselves from thinking that we can go in our garages and solve the world’s energy problems with our clever hands. It ain’t gonna happen that way, I think, and even if it did, it is not a path that I have any interest in. I am trying to do something different, but virtually everybody is stuck in tinkerer mode.

Best,

Wade

Bloody tinkerers!! :couch2:

Think when it comes and it might aleady be here, it will come from the mains and it will be taxed, under the current paradigm that is the only way it will get off the ground. Simply put if they can make money from it, it will magically appear.

K


Bloody tinkerers?????!!

Reinhard

[Billy]

Hi Billy:

Long story on Searl. The short answer is I don't know if he has anything. Dennis used to give him money back in the 1990s. About a year ago, I was almost forced to watch that recent documentary on him, and was I ever mad when it was over. That was almost a textbook case in how to not make a documentary on something like that. I am not sure what TV network that was made for, but the spooky soundtrack made it seem like Sci-Fi channel. They showed footage of them working on Searl's discs, but not one second of footage of one in flight. The only image of the disc in "flight" was a still photo from a newspaper clipping that they kept showing over and over. They showed a roomful of alleged documents, but the only one they showed was a pretty meaningless inquiry from the RAF. Almost the whole show was Searl talking, and when he started saying stuff like "protect my inventor's rights," the usual big red flags went up, as far as maybe why he never got anywhere. If they were trying to make a documentary to discredit him, they could have not done much better, but it was amazing how much positive buzz that documentary generated.

Best,

Wade

Good day Wade and thank you for your comment, I agree that John Searl has not had the best of advice from those trying to promote his work. Searl Magnetics in the USA are slowly getting there. And i believe John has achieved everything he has claimed over this last 60yrs. John will be 80yrs old this year and i have befriended him since he has moved to Scotland. And what i always wonder is why all the great minds do not come together at this time.

I would like your opinion on our 70% plan in our website http://www.gfc.uk.net/pdf/zero.pdf
The plan needs to be updated, and we are also creating a new website at this time. This is our new video just released which will be on our new site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DACZAnltiI

My friend Sunfeather and I spoke last night about asking you and Bill if we could use your interview with Bill on our new website. ???I hope you enjoy and i look foreward to your comments. Yours Billy

[Hughe]

My point is, if a SIMPLE and self evident plan can be formulated, as to how to allow us to move forward, then i believe there would be receptive ears in the most unlikely of places. If a plan is timely, simple and self evident, then it can become a vision, and a vision is what we need here.

perhaps we should see what lessons the industrial revolution can tell, about the best way to implement a new vision? <- Thats not a rhetorical question

Yeap.

I don't expect to see another Nicola Tesla comes out for humanity to provide free energy. I do believe in all the research materials and papers are hidden by TPTB. Just one bright scientist or engineer who figures out one specific type of free energy device with founding theory, simple to understand, put it out to public domain. If I see such device on Youtube with formula, I'm in. I think many people in FE field will test it.
20W motor for example, the output can be increased based on the formula.

Using esoteric, hard-to-get material won't be feasible cause TPTB will shut down the material suppliers.

1KW is magic number to me. 1KW generator can power a house or even run a vehicle. Garage inventors / maniacs will form the 1st wave. They will run and test their generators all the time. Then, like GNU/Linux professionals and students will join the group to enhance and have benefit from it cause it really works. This will be 2nd wave: 50,000 to 100,000 users in world wide. After that, there is no way to stop it.
Individuals and corporations won't get money from the patent or license because it's in public domain. They will make profit from the service they will provide to their customers.

Some mainstream scientists will start check it out and dig up the hidden materials to find better methods. Less pressure than before cause free energy would be real and accepted in general public by the time.

Who will benefit first? I bet the low-end class: people live on poverty, students with limited income, retired house owners.

Another scenario is TPTB will eventually bring out FE technology to the power grid under complete secrecy after collapsing global economy. It will replace old generators / nuclear reactors but people will pay to the power companies, they won't make it free.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

The craziest part of my day job’s year is almost over, but this is also going to be a crazy year in my career. If I am going to get those essays written and embark on the subject matter that I want to teach, I am going to have to go pretty quiet in this forum, like post once a month or so.

Participating in this forum has driven home to me ever-more forcefully how difficult the task is that I have set for myself. I may not be fit for it, but I also have not had the chance to do it yet, either. To those who have read along as this thread has grown, it is evident that most of those reading and responding are of one of these persuasions:

1. Focused on the would-be free energy inventors, or aspire to be one themselves;

2. Plan to take on the Global Controllers and scale the free energy ramparts;

3. Assume that I am looking for recruits for such a task.

It does not seem to matter how many times, and in how many ways, I say that none of those are what I am here for, those are the predominant responses, and this is the friendliest and hippest forum that I have yet encountered. Those responses all fall into levels 7, 9 and 10 of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

I am looking for level 12s and those who can become level 12s. Other levels exist beyond those, and I honor them. Some have figured it out and no longer need to eat:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3236118.stm

http://www.videohippy.com/video/190887/Indian-Hermit-Prahlad-Jani-Does-Not-Need-To-Eat-Or-Drink

but they are not teaching it in downtown Manhattan. Those of us on our last incarnations and living at the leading edge of godliness can play that game. For the rest of us, free energy will initially come through technology. But right now, the key is awareness and education, not scaling the ramparts. Scaling the ramparts is not how free energy is going to happen, or if it is, I want no part of it. I have played with the best, people who have lived the game at a far higher level than just about anybody else ever has. If they can’t get but to the ramparts’ base before the hot oil comes pouring down, and they still try climbing and may have gotten a few feet off the ground before they were overcome, what makes the Young Warriors think that they have a prayer? Young Warriors must become Mature Warriors before they are any good at all to an effort like this.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

Coercing the Global Controllers is a boy’s dream. Some of my comrades and fellow travelers have killed people for a living, sometimes with their bare hands, but only after they renounced violence and coercion did they become useful in this field. Young Warriors are a danger to themselves and others, especially in the free energy field.

As I have stated recently, I have had to consider that playing with whom I have in the free energy field is coming back to haunt me, as almost everybody with any interest in the field has inventor-itis and other early-stage perspectives. As Brian said in our Camelot interview, those taking free energy over the finish line will probably be those new to the field (and not stuck in those introductory perspectives):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new

Dennis, Bearden, Greer and others have fostered the field’s reputation with their efforts, and it is understandable. I wish them the best, and maybe they or somebody like them will get The Muppet Movie ending to their free energy quest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

However, I am trying to do something different, something that may, in end, provide a critical complement to their efforts. I am trying to help fill a hole that I saw in all of those efforts. This world needs far more people thinking comprehensively, and that is what I want to teach. I also go far beyond Bucky Fuller’s public stance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

It was not until the last years of his life, when he wrote Grunch of Giants, that he began to publicly acknowledge the political-economic dynamics that I discovered the hard way and have studied ever since my brutal awakening. Acknowledging that aspect is also essential, if for no other reasons than unwary aspirants can fall into the level 6 abyss or nurture level 11 delusions.

Attaining a productive understanding of the situation, understanding the pitfalls, opportunities and potentials, is like walking the razors’ edge. I have only encountered a few in my lifetime who walked along that edge very far. They all had a whole heart in common. They usually had a mystical awakening of some sort. They had to go get some experience in the real world, usually doing something that woke them up and radicalized them. They often had high “intelligence” and usually had a scientific background, but not always. In fact, my greatest hope is probably helping those without scientific backgrounds learn to begin to think comprehensively. There is a certain level of “intelligence” required to become a systems thinker and understand the comprehensive picture, but if a person’s heart is in the right place and they are eager to learn, I think that the intellectual challenge is really not all that formidable. At least, that is my theory.

There is nothing that I know of bigger on the planet than the free energy situation, and that is why people like Dennis are offered a billion dollars to go away, and then crucified when they refuse:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and then they get smeared on national TV regularly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#dateline

This is not easy material to wrap one’s head around, on several levels, but for those who can go there, I would like to help them. The more people who can see the big picture, the closer we will be to an abundance-based paradigm and something that looks a lot like heaven on earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

I think that it is worthwhile to at least think about. :)

For now, and perhaps forever, that is all that I ask of my readers.

So, with that, I will be going quiet in this forum until I get those essays written. I will put a reminder on my calendar to return here once a month, and at least make one of those visions posts that Ilie asked for. :)

Best wishes, and may we all meet on a healed planet, laughing,

Wade

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Wade:

I thought you would not mind my cross-posting this short piece I wrote from another thread. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14553-Science-is-really-a-religion)

I'd also totally enjoy reading any personal comment you might care to make.

My warmest wishes to you as always!




Science is really a religion




The title is provocative (deliberately so!), but was stimulated by a Personal Message I received which asked:


I was wondering whether you could comment on why mainstream scientists hold such dogmatic and obviously fallacious views on reality?Here's my best answer. I thought it deserved a thread of its own. :)

It's because science is actually a religion. It's really a kind of belief system in which the 'priests' present evidence to support their faith... and the 'heretics' are criticized, condemned, or ostracized.

The 'priests' believe they're being rational, but actually (with few exceptions) they are not: their beliefs are very much emotionally based.

When funding, status, corporate retainers and peer acceptance are blended into the mix, real rationality has little chance to challenge the emotional comfort zones which are co-created.

Kerry Cassidy and I had the privilege of meeting a world-class physicist a few months ago, and we were able to ask him some questions about topics that in his world would have been fringe (or over the fringe!).

His reaction was instructive. He became defensive, uncomfortable, and walked out of the meeting abruptly. We realized that we had inadvertently done the equivalent of trying to argue Christ's teachings with an Archbishop.

The real reality is that this world-class scientist (and he really was in the Stephen Hawking class) was probably not good enough to have been recruited into black projects.

In black budget science - heavily ironically - there is real open-mindedness among truly brilliant people whose names we may never know. Closed-minded attitudes are not useful when back-engineering ET propulsion systems.

One has to be smarter than that - and they are. Most top-level academics in the public domain never made the cut.

[Steve C]

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[slvrfx]

Very interesting. Thank you. A timely reminder.

I had a close relative who worked for many years for _____________ in Los Angeles on Gov. defense systems, ie. Starwars, another his team worked on was_________ in which a satellite, could from space, zap a dime on the desert floor and completely dissolve it, leaving no sign behind. (Hmmm...)

He had spent a bit of time at Area 51 also, and was very ET/UFO savvy as were the dozens of scientists he worked with over the years.

Believe me when I say he had a lot to say.

He personally knew Sitchen and talked with him occasionally. He was also connected to certain researchers and scientists who worked with Indigos, some of these being the people he worked with professionally.

After he retired he continued his first love, which was alternative energy via anti-gravity.

He was in contact with research labs and Universities for the past five years of his life, sending them the results of his work.

He was very frustrated that no one wanted to listen, but seemed to prefer 'staying in the dark', which he knew wasn't the case.

On three separate occasions, his computers were hacked into (he had 4), and files stolen, also his home was also broken into twice, and all hard-copies of his research stolen.

He expressed to me that he knew he was being monitored all the time, and knew he could be at risk, but would never stop pursuing the work he loved.

He was a genius, and I'm very grateful for our long conversations.

Oddly, he died of a massive cerebral hemorrhage a year ago. He was in perfect health, and had just remarked to his wife hours earlier, that he had never felt better in his entire life.


(Very interesting, Bill leaving a message about Skype. My cousin was a huge user of it from the day it came out. Used it for all of his communications with the key people in his research.)

[K626]

Nothing for now will be allowed to challenge the oil/fossil fuel based economy, that I'm afraid is the current reality.

cheers

K

[Billy]

(Very interesting, Bill leaving a message about Skype. My cousin was a huge user of it from the day it came out. Used it for all of his communications with the key people in his research.)

Can you explain about the skype comment slvfx. thank you

[slvrfx]

(Very interesting, Bill leaving a message about Skype. My cousin was a huge user of it from the day it came out. Used it for all of his communications with the key people in his research.)

Can you explain about the skype comment slvfx. thank you


Bill posted this today-


"The retired CIA Director, a whistleblower, and Skype: a true story
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Dear Friends:

Enjoy this little story. Quite true, and happened nearly three years ago.

Someone I'd been in touch with for a while through Project Camelot (an intelligent and well-informed reader) contacted me on Skype audio one day to tell me a story.

He said that his partner was a family member of a retired CIA Director. He did not give the man's name, and even now I don't know it. This gentleman was now elderly, but very sharp and with all his wits about him.

Over a family dinner, this man had let slip to my friend's partner that the US had indeed made contact with an ET race in the early 1950s. That was basically what my friend wanted me to know.

This was not new, of course, but it was cool information. I thanked him for the story.

Three days later, he called me again, very flustered. This time it was not on Skype, but over iChat - a Mac application which I'd upgraded to be 256-bit encrypted.

He told me that the CIA Director had phoned him from Washington, having been handed a copy of the Skype transcript. "That was a PRIVATE conversation!" He was furious.

As he was telling me this, I could hear his cellphone ringing in the background.

"Better get that", I said. "It'll be him." I was laughing.

He didn't want to, but I persuaded him to pick up the call. "I'll stay right here," I told him.

Well, it was not the retired CIA Director. But it was a woman from Washington.

"GET OFF THE LINE NOW!!" she said.

The woman then sent a pulse through the phone that destroyed the SIM card and wiped the phone memory.

My friend was shaking. I could hardly contain myself. To his credit, he pulled himself together and was not intimidated. I thought it was hilarious.

Folks, no communications are secure. And 256-bit encryption means nothing at all."

[David Hughes]

Wade,

I've spent the past 8 months or so reading and digesting the material on your website, and then the past week or so reading all the posts on this thread. I had been meaning to thank you for taking the time and effort to write your essays and sharing your knowledge, but I couldn’t find any way to contact you because your website provided no contact details. Then lo and behold, I opened up your website a couple of weeks ago, and in bold red writing at the top of the page was a note saying you were engaging with the public again. I'm not particularly a fan of public forums, and have stopped posting on them because all too often the threads have a tendency to descend into farce, but having spent the past week getting a feel for this forum and reading member posts, I noticed something different going on here, and decided to join. Hats off to Bill and the moderators.

I'll give a brief summary of my own journey so you can see how I arrived where I am today. Maybe it will heIp someone.

I had my ‘mystical awakening' on an island in Greece when I was 21. The closest thing that I have come across to compare it to is a 'Kundalini Awakening'. Words can't do it justice but essentially it felt very similar to when I am asleep and dreaming, and I then become lucid and fully aware that i'm dreaming. The backdrop melts away, and all matter kind of merges together and becomes an extension of you. I instantly became keenly aware of the power of my thoughts, words and actions. Prior to this event I wasn't particularly spiritually inclined. I have the ability to astral travel and to lucid dream, but I assumed that so did everyone else. I was raised Catholic but never had any particular interest it, and stopped going to church in my mid teens.

Two weeks after the spiritual awakening I flew home and graduated University with an Honours Degree in Science (Majoring in Biology). I was unable to find work relevant to my Degree, and ended up working in the same large Irish bank where my mother worked for over 40 years. I wasn't a fan and would be in bed before 9pm every night, and on Friday and Saturday nights I would get trashed drunk. I stuck it out for around 2 years and then went travelling around South America. I eventually found work in the pharmaceutical industry in Ireland but hated it and got fired twice. After the first time, I went travelling alone around southern Mexico and Central America, and after the second time, I went to Thailand. I had no interest in marriage, career, mortgages etc. My thoughts were why not travel while I was still young and healthy, see what there is to see, enjoy myself, and try and figure out why things are the way they are along the way? I might only get one chance to see this planet so why wait until i'm 65 to do it? The time is now.

After getting fired for the second time I was essentially unemployable within the pharmaceutical industry, and all other employment options open to me were very limited. I was badgered by friends and family to pursue a Masters or Ph.D but I didn't have any passion for any of the highly reductionist and specialized areas of study that were on offer. So, I decided to leave Ireland and went to Asia to teach elementary school kids in South Korea. Although the salary was about 50% less than what I was earning in Ireland, the school provided a free apartment so I had no rent to pay, and the salary offered was still sufficient enough to allow me to live comfortably, and still save some cash for future travel while I figured out my next move. The kids were amazing, particularly the ones 7 years old and under, and the reality of it was that they were the ones who were teaching me.

I had a lot of free time in Korea and used much of it to browse the Internet. One evening I stumbled upon the whole 9/11 thing and spent a few months researching it. This was my first venture into the world of "conspiracy theory". Many of the claims being made that went unreported on mainstream media made sense to me both intuitively and from a scientific perspective. I then started to wonder if there was anything else out there that I was being lied to about. What other information was there that was being hidden from me? I eventually came across the subject of ‘free energy’ by way of a Project Camelot interview with Brian O’ Leary. He made some very big claims but seemed very well versed and level headed. I was never a big reader, owning less than 20 books at the time, but the interview sparked my curiosity enough to buy his book ‘The Energy Solution Revolution’. Not a single person had ever even so much as hinted at the idea of free energy to me before I watched this interview, so that book really was an eye opener when I read it, and that then led me directly to Wade's website, which is where I have been parked for the past 8 months or so, eagerly researching and digesting all the material contained within.

I cannot recommend Wade's website highly enough. The material he has posted on there should be mandatory reading for everyone on the planet in search of the truth. The 2 stand-out essays for me are ‘The Medical Racket’ and ‘The Energy Racket’ essays. 4 years studying biology at university and another 10 years reading scientific literature and not a single word had I ever read about the work of Naessens and Bechamp before reading 'The Medical Racket' essay. All the essays on Wade’s site are worth a read but for me, once I fully digested the words within those two particular essays, the puzzle finally started to make much more sense.

Enjoy:
http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm

Thanks again Wade.

[Steve C]

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[David Hughes]

Here's a snippet from some of my research. It's based on the book 'Wholeness and the Implicate Order' by David Bohm.

"Our understanding of this world has been fragmented into numerous different disciplines, all separated from each other. We divide everything up into particular areas of expertise such as Biology, Physics, Economics, and Philosophy, and then proceed to further fragment these areas within each discipline – Genetics, Microbiology, Quantum Mechanics, Ethics etc. Even humans themselves are subjected to this fragmentation. Fragments create illusions about our reality that can lead to endless conflict and confusion. Fragmentation of humanity is what clouds the true nature of reality."

[Hughe]

Cheers!

A secret knowledge has been kept from the general public over 100 years finally came out. I found the original twenty Maxwell equations in PDF file on Internet recently. I uploaded on Avalon Books thread. Anybody can download it.

I like to hear from any professional who are really good at physics, honestly I need quite some time to go through the 20 equations are authentic or not by myself. Maybe I'll dig more to find the scanned images of the original books on Internet.

[Scott]

Hail All

Just a quick heads up that Wade Frazier's interview is tonight, it is a pre-record so no call-ins (sorry)
Its a great show and I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as I enjoyed doing it.
Link to listen Live area: http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=85
Just click on of the Play buttons to listen.

Show Times
7:55 PM PACIFIC
8:55 PM MOUNTAIN
9:55 PM CENTRAL
10:55 PM EASTERN

Do not be surprised if the show is a few minutes late, It's internet radio and very fluid :)

If you miss the show, that's not a problem, I will have the complete show up in the archive section Wednesday evening here: http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=221
Just click the mps play button :)

Scott

[Steve C]

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[Rayne T.]

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Hello, All:

My friend and Project Camelot Witness Wade Frazier has joined the forum. I am more than delighted he's here.

He is a researcher, author of an encyclopedic website (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), a free-energy activist, and a one-man think tank on all that's important in our times.

From his page on Project Camelot: (http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html)

--- I believe that much of that so-called advanced technology tries to mimic advanced spiritual abilities. My understanding is that much of our advanced technology is quaint by certain “extraterrestrial” standards, because we have a primitive understanding of consciousness. By and large, the heart is not in charge on Earth.

Wade Frazier

Wade, "groomed as a scientist from an early age", became fascinated by the subject of Free Energy when just a teenager. As is so often the case with those with a clearly envisioned life mission when so young, his life's path then propelled him through a series of hard-hitting experiences that qualify him to be one of the preeminent writers on the subject today.

Wade's website, AHealedPlanet.net (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), comprises over 1200 pages of deeply thought-out, intelligent and well-informed commentary on a number of the most important issues of our time. His direct personal experiences include working shoulder-to-shoulder for a number of years with Dennis Lee, who he describes as 'The Indiana Jones of Free Energy'. Wade attests that Lee's larger-than-life experiences, many of which Wade witnessed at first hand (including the viability of his technology) were authentic and occurred just as he reports on his site. He is courteously dismissive of uninformed critics.

http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.jpg

Our March 2009 Project Camelot audio interview - with Wade and his and our friend Dr Brian O'Leary - can be downloaded here:

http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles/audio/wade_frazier_brian_o_leary_27_march_2009.mp3

His introductory post is below. He wants to run some ideas past you guys: please help him out, and give him a warm welcome.

All best wishes, Bill


I have been reading through Wade's website, and like much of what I read. However there is one idea that I disagree with.

This particular idea, I feel, is being pushed by many all over and it is extremely dangerous to the health of humanity. This idea is that we should all become vegetarian.

Vegetarianism, is exactly what "they" want for us. Grains are the most harmful food a human can eat - contrary to popular belief, and we all need meat for re-building and renewing our bodies. Please don't just disagree and stop reading because of what you have read in magazines, heard on tv, or even experienced for yourself about the benefits of going vegetarian. Or, because of the nonsense you have read about how we get all of the protein we need from plants. We are NOT cattle. We do NOT have more than one stomach.

I could write everything I know about why we are not meant to eat grain here, but if you really want to know, then please read Aajonus Vonderplanitz book, "We Want To Live". He can describe this to you much better than I can.

I have saved my own life, and cured myself of over 15 symptoms ranging in severity by eating what is called he has called the Raw Primal Diet. Whatever you have heard on the internet about what is wrong with it, please don't believe it until you have done some investigation.

In 1998 at the age of 35, my health began to rapidly deteriorate. My list of symptoms included - restless legs, bleeding gums, weight gain alternating with severe weight loss, severe 3 day long headaches that occurred several time per month, Hep C, edema, anemia, severe anxiety and paranoia, food allergies, insomnia, blurring and deteriorating vision, ear infections, ADD, confusion, and social isolation.

I moved 40 miles from the nearest town, off grid, in the AZ high desert to try to begin to heal myself. I was completely disabled, and thought I would probably die. Doctors couldn't figure out my problem, and any medications only made me feel worse. The closest thing to a diagnosis was "you have some kind of autoimmune thing going on", and "the Hep C might explain some of it".

I began to study and read everything I could get my hands on about diet and health. Over the next 5 years, I tried raw vegetarianism, the macrobiotic diet, hundreds of dollars of supplements, and superfoods. Everything I tried made me sicker and sicker. And, no - I was not simply detoxifying because of my new "healthy" diet. I was dying.

In 2007, I gave up and moved home with my family in WV. This did not go well because of my mental problems, and I ended up fleeing to live in the basement of a friend's home. I was a mess.

The first thing I came to realize was that my problems had a spiritual basis. The spiritual manifests in the physical. "As above, so below". I began getting all of the spiritual healing I could afford, or have given to me for free.

A powerful shaman/healer gave me Reiki healing, and all of the attunments up to Reiki master teacher for practically free. A hypnotherapist friend of his gave me several very helpful session of hypnotherapy for only a painting - that I hadn't even painted yet. I received the rites of the Munay Ki, and learned E.F.T. This was only part of it. However, my physical self didn't recover.

When you have a spiritual problem long enough, it goes physical, and because of this, it takes physical action to heal the body sometimes - like dietary changes, and exercise, detoxification, removing exposure to toxins, etc. Well, another friend of mine spent over $1000 on a food allergy/sensitivity test for me, and I began to eat accordingly to the results. It was an ALCAT test.

I had improvement, and got my hopes up, but after almost a year, I ran back into my same old wall of not being able to eat more than one or two foods without experiencing horrible weight loss and the worst of the symptoms I listed above.

I was vegetarian, and I did it raw, I did it cooked, and a combination of both, and I was still dying.

Finally, I discovered Aajonus Vonderplanitz raw Primal diet online, which consists of raw meat, raw dairy, raw veggie juices, raw fruit, raw honey, etc.. I have been on this diet ever since, and have almost eliminated every single symptom I had except occasional bleeding gums, occasional restless legs - if I eat something I shouldn't like potato chips, lol, and I still get one of those three day long headaches about once every 3 months or so.

My muscles have filled back out. I gained weight, but not like someone in their 40's, I'm am shaping up even better than in my 20's. Hep C is gone. My energy is getting awesome. My eyesight is better. My mind is clear.

Please don't think I am selling anything here. I am not. I am not connected to A.Vonderplanitz in any way. I am just spreading information that I feel is needed here. This guy actually has a 95% cure rate for cancer.

Charles, if you have an incurable disease, contact Aajonus Vonderplantiz.

Now, what I want to say about vegetarianism.....It works for most, pretty much healthy, people at first. Sometimes they experience health for many years, but it doesn't work forever. The body and digestive system begins to break down, and everything falls apart.

Raw meat, and lots of raw animal fats are the healthiest, most cleansing things a person can eat. ALL of the info out there that tells us that meat and fat are bad for us are ALL based on cooked meat and fat.

How many nervous, high strung, scrawny vegans have we seen? I have seen LOTS.
I have also seen the few others - with the well developed muscular body and glowing health. They are mostly males under 50, and it won't last.

Believe me, I tried ALL of the raw oils, and superfoods, and everything else under the sun. In my studies, and experience I have learned that humans do not digest beans, nuts, and seeds well at all. They may for awhile appear to, that is all. These are not good sources of protein. We are not grazing animals. We aren't pure carnivores either. The raw Primal Diet, and perhaps the Paleo diet as well - i am still researching- are perfect for humans.

Please read the book, "We Want To Live". When you read it, you will recognize the truth of it.

Now, about the subject of animal abuse in the food industry. This is the real problem as well as all of the pollution created by factory farms. This must stop.

Professional hunting needs to replace this abusive destructive situation. Hunting should once again become the respected occupation it once was. And I don't mean by rediculously terrifying things like chasing down animals with helicopters.

Besides for the animal abuse, and pollution, the fact remains "we are what we eat". When we eat abused, enslaved, tortured animals who never see the light of day or get to play and run, then we take on that energy. The Native Americans knew this. The elite know this. Why do you think they spend huge sums of money to go somewhere and eat Tiger, or some other powerful wild animals?

We are part of this Earth. We are part of the food chain. Killing to eat is not wrong, it's being what we are. It is allowing ourselves to be, and live. People think that they have to be vegetarians to be spiritual. NONSENSE! Eating COOKED meats and fats WILL dull your mind and make you unhealthy, while eating them raw is just amazingly healthy. Please do not believe all of what you hear about food poisoning, or e-coli, or salmonella either. Aajonus explains the truth about that too. I have been on this diet for 1 1/2 years now, and have never gotten food poisoning. That is a scam created by Big Food corps.

Believe me, "they" want you to go vegan and not experience the renewal, and health that people like me are experiencing. Yes, raw veganism has healed some of "incurable" diseases because, yes of course, it is a clean diet compared to what the person was eating previously. But, I guarantee they will run into future problems with it. The Primal diet is curing EVERY "incurable" disease with nothing but improvement from then on!

Love and Light,
Rayne

P.S. After posting this I have received several messages about the primal diet so, I would like to start another thread about this. I don't know if I am able yet, but I will try.

[Ilie Pandia]

:focus: Let's bring this thread back on topic, which is Abundance.

For the new posters please go through Wade's replies here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?do=finduser&userid=2161&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1). From what I can tell he has pretty much addressed all of your questions and provided links to where you can find more info.

If that is too much to follow, then my personal recommendation for a starting point is: Keys to Comprehending Abundance-Based Paradigms (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm).

Wade has said many times that it is not his goal to discuss how free energy works, but rather to raise awareness about it and get people to at least imagine an abundant world. He explains much better, please read his replies on this thread.

@Rayne: your info is very interesting. I suggest you start a new thread about this where people could follow and respond.

- Ilie

[Scott]

Hail all

Ok the complete mp3 of Wades interview last night is now available on the past shows page of the website.
Click play to Listen; http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=181

The YouTube version will take about 2 weeks as I need to get pictures :)

Scott

[Ilie Pandia]

Hail all

Ok the complete mp3 of Wades interview last night is now available on the past shows page of the website.
Click play to Listen; http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=181

The YouTube version will take about 2 weeks as I need to get pictures :)

Scott

Hello Scott,

This 1h 40min interview is just part One or is the entire interview with Wade?

[Rayne T.]

:focus: Let's bring this thread back on topic, which is Abundance.

For the new posters please go through Wade's replies here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?do=finduser&userid=2161&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1). From what I can tell he has pretty much addressed all of your questions and provided links to where you can find more info.

If that is too much to follow, then my personal recommendation for a starting point is: Keys to Comprehending Abundance-Based Paradigms (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm).

Wade has said many times that it is not his goal to discuss how free energy works, but rather to raise awareness about it and get people to at least imagine an abundant world. He explains much better, please read his replies on this thread.

@Rayne: your info is very interesting. I suggest you start a new thread about this where people could follow and respond.

- Ilie

It's been done :)

[Scott]

Hail all

Ok the complete mp3 of Wades interview last night is now available on the past shows page of the website.
Click play to Listen; http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=181

The YouTube version will take about 2 weeks as I need to get pictures :)

Scott

Hello Scott,

This 1h 40min interview is just part One or is the entire interview with Wade?

Pixel

Yes this is Part one, the 1st interview that was recorded had so much information I decided to break it up into 2 parts, we also added to it with another 40 minutes of brand new info on Sunday Feb 20th.
Stay tuned for show date.

P.S If you haven't had a chance to hear this fascinating talk by Thomas E. Bearden on Justin TV about the history of free energy research then I highly recommend listening to this.
Thomas E. Bearden - Free Energy (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=93:ltcol-thomas-e-bearden-free-energy&catid=40:news&Itemid=214)

[K626]

Hail all

Ok the complete mp3 of Wades interview last night is now available on the past shows page of the website.
Click play to Listen; http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=181

The YouTube version will take about 2 weeks as I need to get pictures :)

Scott

Hello Scott,

This 1h 40min interview is just part One or is the entire interview with Wade?

Pixel

Yes this is Part one, the 1st interview that was recorded had so much information I decided to break it up into 2 parts, we also added to it with another 40 minutes of brand new info on Sunday Feb 20th.
Stay tuned for show date.

P.S If you haven't had a chance to hear this fascinating talk by Thomas E. Bearden on Justin TV about the history of free energy research then I highly recommend listening to this.
Thomas E. Bearden - Free Energy (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=93:ltcol-thomas-e-bearden-free-energy&catid=40:news&Itemid=214)

Thanks for your time Scott, excellent stuff.

love

K

[Billy]

Hail all

Ok the complete mp3 of Wades interview last night is now available on the past shows page of the website.
Click play to Listen; http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=181

The YouTube version will take about 2 weeks as I need to get pictures :)

Scott

Hello Scott,

This 1h 40min interview is just part One or is the entire interview with Wade?

Pixel

Yes this is Part one, the 1st interview that was recorded had so much information I decided to break it up into 2 parts, we also added to it with another 40 minutes of brand new info on Sunday Feb 20th.
Stay tuned for show date.

P.S If you haven't had a chance to hear this fascinating talk by Thomas E. Bearden on Justin TV about the history of free energy research then I highly recommend listening to this.
Thomas E. Bearden - Free Energy (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=93:ltcol-thomas-e-bearden-free-energy&catid=40:news&Itemid=214)

Brilliant Thank you Scott

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I have not yet read any of the posts made on this thread since I decided to go quiet until I get those essays written. However, in the past week, partly due to the experience of doing interviews again (thanks again, Scott, for doing those shows – they were fun http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78:past-shows&catid=41:archive&Itemid=211 ) I want make my intentions clear, as if they are not already. I will get to those unanswered posts to this thread, and make responses, in the next few weeks.

Again, because of my background, and because of the state of the field, almost everybody with any awareness or interest in the free energy field has been swept up into the spectacle of inventors and other free energy aspirants, both those that have been suppressed and those still trying to scale the ramparts. What I plan to teach has almost nothing to do with any of that. I am not even interested today in the inventor/activist route to free energy. The day that an inventor with the goods gives his technology to a worthy group, I will become somewhat interested. Inventors with the goods are extremely rare. Most people that you hear about today probably do not have the goods. The Global Controllers remove the genuine stuff from circulation pretty quickly.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

For every gold nugget like a Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

or an Adam Trombly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

there is a boxcar-load of mine tailings to sift through. An inventor with the goods, that the Global Controllers have not already removed from the scene, is exceedingly rare. As far as a worthy group goes, for it to have a prayer, in my opinion, it will need a nucleus of at least ten A-level activists, the kind who could successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

(I originally said a hundred, http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#done, but you can see how I have lowered my expectations :) )

At this time, Dennis is the only person I know or have heard of with those qualifications. There are a few others who can come pretty close, but Dennis is the only one that I know who can check off all of those boxes. That is one reason why Brian said that people new to the field are likely those with a chance to make free energy happen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new

For the visible people in the field today, very few of them have the right stuff. That is just the way it is, largely because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

So, that entire inventor/activist route I have little interest in, and that is not really what I am here to teach. However, I realize that most people who live quiet lives can have difficulty understanding how the land lies, and need some help getting past those early barriers to comprehension. They have to do their homework, however, and that really cannot be done by surfing the Internet, reading my work, etc. They usually need to go get some experience in the real world, enough to help them glimpse beyond the scarcity-based paradigms that we have all been indoctrinated into, in one way or another:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I provide some suggestions on how they can gain non-life-threatening experience that points beyond the current paradigms:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

but each person needs to do the work. Nobody can do it for them. I have no illusions: I am looking for needles in haystacks, too (Ilie is one of them). That is why Brian said the journey has been so lonely:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

So, teaching comprehensive thinking is my bag, and we will see how it goes when I finish those essays. Bill is the real deal, and this is about the only forum on the Internet that I would even think of joining. I have been offered it since I joined here, and I will probably take them up on it: the forum that I will start here, to teach comprehensive thinking at my virtual university, will be by invitation only (or by a carefully-considered application), the participants will use their real names, and I am going to ask us all to raise our games, including me, so that we can begin to sing the abundance song. That song has never been heard before on this planet in chorus. So far, it has only been a stray voice or two in the wilderness.

That stated, while doing those interviews with Scott and performing other writing chores, I happened upon some more Internet-based evidence of Dennis’s odyssey, and how corrupt the American legal system is.

This is from the appeals process related to Dennis’s plea bargain.

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/959/240/220419/

The essence of Dennis’s plea bargain was that the judge made sure that Dennis was convicted under the SAMP Act: Dennis did not file the form, and he did not pay $50 (even though filing and paying it would have been amongst my job duties). That was the undeniable “crime” and was the only crime that Dennis pled guilty to. His prison records affirmed it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#failure

That Dennis did not know about the law and its filing requirement (and neither did anybody else in California) was what made him the “accidental felon.” Dennis’s plea was that he would plead guilty to not filing the form, but that the higher courts were required to rule on the constitutionality of the law as it applied to his case (See The Alternative, exhibit 7H). The courts violated the plea bargain all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. That ruling above was just one of several.

What was interesting about that ruling was how in denying Dennis his part of the deal, the courts also resorted to artful deception on what Dennis pled guilty to. When Dennis was arrested, fraud charges were filed. It was the only way that they could make life-in-prison charges stick; failing to file a form did not have the cachet that fraud did. At the preliminary hearing, it became evident that just like with the Seattle experience, there were never any complaining victims. The case was completely manufactured by the prosecution, with no “victims” anywhere to be seen.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#fishing

After I sprung Dennis from jail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

and they could no longer have him hogtied and defenseless, it was obvious that they could never make the fraud charges stick, so they quickly dropped all of them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#plea

In Seattle, Dennis was never even prosecuted for a crime:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#ag

and in Ventura, all the criminal charges were dropped when Dennis was able to escape jail. Failing to file a form became a “felony” in the Ventura County legal system’s charming logic, however.

With that in mind, read that appeals ruling:

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/959/240/220419/

They state,


“On June 22, 1988, Lee was arrested and charged with violating sections of California Civil Code 1812.201 through 1812.221, the Seller's Assisted Marketing Plan Act (SAMP). He was also charged with several counts of common law fraud, all charges stemming from his marketing of a heat pump which was purported to generate electricity. On May 31, 1990, Lee pled guilty to eight of the charged felony counts in the Superior Court of Ventura County, California. At this same hearing, the Superior Court denied Lee's motion to dismiss the complaint based on his allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.”


They state that he was charged with fraud, and then state that he then pled guilty to eight of the charged felony counts. What they do not say is that the fraud charges were dropped, and were not what he pled guilty to. Those fraud charges should not have even been mentioned in that ruling; they were completely irrelevant. That is how American “justice” works. The Federal Trade Commission plays the same game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

Cleverly conjoin rumor with fact, and it sure can look impressive. Dennis got special treatment, but the corruption and outright evil in the American legal system is well known, even legendary:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice

Only Americans and other Westerners who happily drink the Kool-Aid of their indoctrination, who have never had any experience of the legal system at work, especially when they have been targeted by it, believe in it. For those who know how the world really works, Dennis’s case is typical.

For a world-class “skeptic” like Mr. Skeptic, such clever juxtaposition of dropped charges with the parking-ticket-level “crime” that the victim was “convicted” of was not enough. Mr. Skeptic built his skeptical career on outright lies about what happened in Seattle and Ventura, stating that Dennis was prosecuted for fraud in Seattle and pled guilty to fraud in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel

Again, that stuff is really only a sideshow, but it partly demonstrates why the world does not enjoy the benefits of free energy today. That a leading “free energy” organization counts Mr. Skeptic among its august members

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

is one more reason why probably all current free energy efforts are doomed. Again, I am trying to do something different, and we will see how it goes.

Best wishes to all,

Wade

[collab]

Hello Wade, Thank you for sharing aspects of your life adventures with us, very interesting to say the least. I'm hooked on the scarcity vs abundance ideologies. I joined this forum specifically to get your contact email, like a gmail or something. I have followed B&K since the website, pre-forums.

My expertise is in elearning, and digital data systems to some degree I guess -- Learning management systems to keep things brief. I want to re-package your information, or at least try too. I believe you have a desire to educate in regards to information you feel is the root to 'assisting' in others understanding.

If interested in exploring the idea of turning your materials into 'courses' to be offered via online learning, please contact me at jbconk@gmail.com. As much as I appreciate Avalon and members, old and new -- Some amazing folks have dawned these virtual doors.

I would prefer to work with you directly. I'm interested in how people can learn via technology, again in keeping things brief. I think we are aligned in thinking to a large degree, but i'm looking to learn more through building the courses. I'm not really talking about being able to sell them or offer them via an institution, but that will come once we explore the idea if interested .... anyways saying to much here ... Sorry for the interruption folks.

Many thanks for your consideration.

[9eagle9]

Wade....

I have something I want to ask you and I haven't been in thread for a while posting (just reading) because I've been wading through your material (no pun intended) but you have a lot material...he he.

On the subject of free energy.....

We noted way up thread it couldn't be patented, or given over in the usual fashion because we know it will be squelched, shelved and the inventors tormented unto death. You nixed the idea of underground means of it as well.

I'm thinking of underground in this fashion....

Say I create this free energy device that's about the size of a quarter, or a modem, or some discreet size, at least not of an obvious size (I assure you I cannot make a free energy device ..lol.. so this is pure speculation). I say this because we know its not about the technology persay but the means of getting it out in the common public use.

Meaning something that isn't easily noticed (underground) .

And I'm able to tap into the free energy. Meaning its free so its cost ,relatively speaking, is a few bucks to make. At least no more than I or others could afford to make. So I give one to you because i know you won't rat me out.

And now you have free energy.

So you make a few more or perhaps I make a few more for you and you give them to family members or whomever you can trust....

Now mind you, no one is advertising this because 1) I've given one to you and you have proven yourself to have some discernment and see the bigger picture so you aren't going to give it away to those who would rat US out. 2) Even if you took that chance, the person you gave it too would be saving so much money by creating their own energy they wouldn't be policing citizens. They aren't otherwise their free money saving energy may be taken away. (Okay I see a glitch in 2 already....)

I'm looking at this device from the point that is it is divinely inspired....so divinity will play a hand in making sure we get away with this subversion, until enough of the populace has their new energy free toy and will loudly object if someone comes to investigate, let alone take it way. By experience I know that divinely given things are not so easily taken away... Meaning if I am divinely inspired and in that sense of inspiration give away the inspiration out of a true sense of divine giving .....I may have a great more deal of success then if I went through the usual channels. Loving my neighbor as I have loved myself, Golden Rule....etc etc.

And that's the only reason why I give it. Not for fame recognition or billions (that I will never get anyway because I'll end up sharing a grave with J. Hoffa). Not to say I won't get a equal exchange of energy but I'm not worried about that, the long term benefit is better than any short term monetary gain anyway .

So this slowly leaking outwards like sharing grandma's cherished and really good cookie recipe. You won't give it to people who you suspect will F it up INTIALLY, but eventually the recipe catches on and begins transforming us on a different level...to where it could be shared on a broader scale without so much danger. Sort of the miracle of the device transforms people on a different level by empowering them simply by getting them off grid. One thing leads to another.

Not by the usual channels but simply by sharingout of a heartfelt space .... just because we can do it and we know we have to do it quietly?

I am caught up in this notion over and over. And some is my own natural medicine practice where I do things the FDA wouldn't appreciate very much and share them with people to help them save their lives ...because I have the know how and can. But it saves them thousands in $$$ and lives and its no skin off my nose. Much of my work is divinely inspired.

Poke some holes in this notion for me. Not to deflate it precisely. Its been given over to me too many times and I've practiced it too many times for me to be entirely off track. But I suspect I'm overlooking something. Why this keeps being imposed on me has to have a reason. And why I'm compelled to keep practicing it. Honestly, I couldn't build an energy free device if my life depended on it but then again its not the technology that's the issue, or who makes it, but getting it out there. But poke some holes there to get me unstuck and heading it in a direction again.

When you can. I know you're busy.

And any other thread participants as well of course, your input is treasured as well.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello 9eagle9,

If I may, I will try to answer your question based on what I have learned from Wade so far.

There are two assumptions that do not work in your idea.

First one is that the technology is not an issue. Well, it is. In order to build the device that you have described, Wade submits that you’ll need an Intel level factory. Henry Deacon gives here (http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/henry_deacon_rafa_palacios_interview_transcript_en.html) some details on how such a device is built and it is clear you need at least some sort of laboratory and access to the materials (that may not be so easy to come by).

The second assumption that does not work is that you can keep this underground. If I remember correctly one of the issues is that the Global Controller (CG) have a detection mechanism that lets them know if someone is tapping on close to tapping the Zero-Point energy field. Not only that but they have the technology to suppress your device: you have some a working prototype but for some reason one day it does not work anymore even though everything is in place. You could argue that you do not have to build a ZPE device, but from what I have read so far it is the only kind of device that would fit your profile: small enough and powerful enough.

Scott (I think), at the end of part one of his interview with Wade, describes an experiment where he asked people “what would you do if all your needs are provided for”, and the number one answer was “I don’t know”. Wade says that this is the reason why we do not have this yet! People are so blocked in the scarcity-based paradigm that they cannot even imagine how it would be like in an abundance paradigm.

Another key argument of yours is that the device is divinely inspired. I am not really sure how to address this :). My understanding, so far, is that there are little to none “inventors” that are divinely inspired and guided. And they would also need to find others divinely inspired and guided to distribute this device. Where do you find these people when (it appears) most of humanity is in such a denial it will not even try to imagine such devices could exist? A couple of years ago, due to what I have learned about physics in school and being an engineer, I would not even entertain such a discussion. It would have been obvious to me that you are deluded and you are wasting my time with nonsense.

And a final point you make. You compare your idea with what you are already doing behind the back of the FDA. The thing is that “free energy” is such a powerful factor of change that it is watched and suppressed more fiercely than health care. I think that if you would find a simple way to teach anybody to live of say “prana”, you would find it very hard to distribute that kind of knowledge because again it would be a major factor of change (and you would have entered the “free energy” field).

[David Hughes]

I see this planet/reality as being whatever we want it to be. Life to me is like a waking dream and the future is NOT fixed in any way. The only real limitation is ones imagination.

Imagine then using your mind on a larger scale ie many people envisioning/imagining the same or similar reality over and over in their minds together to influence and shape the future - a powerful tool if used correctly. Think of how Josef Goebbals and friends used hate for his Nazi propaganda, and reverse engineer it to instead promote love, virtue, and abundance. If a few hundred or few thousand (maybe more/less) loving and virtuous minds got together and focused, the potential for what can be achieved is great.

What is your vision of heaven? For most people that I know its fame, status related, and/or some form of material wealth.

Lennon chiming in:

VOgFZfRVaww

[Ilie Pandia]

Mr Tyler Durden... one may say you are a dreamer... but you're not the only one! :)

I have listen to this song many times... but just now I got it what is about! Thank you!

[9eagle9]

Pixel thanks for the points....

Very helpful. I'm going to ruminate on this a bit ....

[Ernie Nemeth]

It all comes down to Doubting Thomas. The disciples swore Jesus had risen. Mary attested to it... But Thomas would not believe it. He said he would have to stick his finger in Jesus' side before he would accept it.
So one day Jesus appears in the room where all the desciples are praying. And now Thomas claims to believe. But Jesus says to him, no. Now you must come here and put your finger in my wound. Thomas is not only chastized, he is forever relagated to the side lines. Why? Because he missed the point entirely. He could not wrap his mind around the idea of ressurection, which is foundational to Jesus' message.
It is not a working FE model that we need. It is a fundamental shift in our world view. Without that FE is just another toy!
Peace

[Hughe]

Some of humans have successfully created truly free society nowadays. One fine example is GNU/Linux, Open Software movement which started late 1980s. Whenever I turn on computer, I'm completely free because everything I use in my computer is free as it is. It comes with "ABSOLUTE NO WARRANTY." Hackers and users all over the world through Internet, created this wonderful computing environment.

So, it's possible and need to be done before it will be too late.

What we need in free energy field is, a legendary scientist or inventor or a group who really builds the energy device and put it out in public domain like Linus Torvalds did two decades ago. It will takes time to build up enough users. Once it reaches critical mass: about half million to one million, it's end of story. The sheer power of people is immense.

[Wade Frazier]

Sorry that I have not been keeping up on the thread lately, but way too much is on my plate right now. All I have to say today is that when I see Ilie's posts, they almost bring tears to my eyes. Ilie gets it about as well as I have seen. Ernie's post was also wise. I will get to the others in the near future.

I am not looking for heroes, spear carriers for the Indiana Joneses, or other risky roles, but just trying to get across the abundance message and make it thinkable. The cornerstone of an abundance-based paradigm will be energy abundance, but the key to its appearance may well be enough people manifesting heart-centered sentience. The Internet, for all of its limitations, is a new tool to bring people and ideas together in ways that were not possible fifteen years ago. I am trying to use it in those new ways and, to some degree, it is working. Most of my cyberpals who understand what I am trying to do are not Americans. In general, we are too brainwashed and complacent here, with our imperial conceits.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I still have not read all of the posts to this thread and composed a worthy response (but I hope to get to it soon). However, I read a few, and that, combined with my recent interview:

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78:past-shows&catid=41:archive&Itemid=211

spurred me to write this post.

As Greer stated, Godzilla is real. Most of the world is in denial of that fact (those who aren't often get dismissed as "conspiracy theorists"), but since the Big Boys (AKA Global Controllers, GCs) operate in the shadows, that denial is understandable. That denial helps the situation persist, however, but for any free energy aspirants, that can be a fatal delusion. However, fixating on Godzilla is also unproductive. Very, very few alternative/free energy inventors and activists ever get to the level where Godzilla even needs to roll out of bed. The economic jungle is filled with T-Rexes and velociraptors, and they dine on a hundred aspirants for every one that Godzilla needs to trouble himself with.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#godzilla

As I stated in that interview, what happened in Seattle may have had little, if any, Global Controller influence. It was just how the local energy interests protected their turf. As Adam Smith wrote long ago, the essence of capitalism is wiping out the competition.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#smith2

That is how monopoly-level profits can be secured. Bill the BPA Hit Man may have been a Global Controller employee;

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

but maybe not. Mr. Skeptic may be on the payroll:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

but maybe not.

Mr. Texas may have been a Global Controller asset:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

but maybe not. Mr. Texas may not live to see this side of the bars again, but the Global Controllers and the lower level (T-Rex) players do not provide rich pension plans for their assets. Those assailants all took their masks off for us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#masks

So they all consciously acted dishonestly, whatever their ultimate motivation may have been. The compensated hit men are more than likely contract agents, who then have to fend for themselves later. I would hazard a guess that they rarely know who their employers really are, when they are sicced on people like Dennis. They probably don't even care who hired them, as long as the pay was good. That CIA man who made Dennis the billion dollar offer to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

may not have known much about the "European interests" that he said he represented. Mr. Deputy, Mr. Investigator and others doing the dirty work in Ventura almost certainly had no idea whose interests they were serving. They were soldiers chasing the carrot that was dangled before them. That Mr. Investigator did not care if Dennis was innocent or not:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

and would do as much lying as he needed to gain that conviction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#lie

is just how the system works, without the Global Controllers needing to lift a finger. While I eventually awoke to the depths of the evil, when I was on the witness stand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

that was really only one salient moment of many and, in the end, it was not really Mr. Deputy's actions that were the hardest to handle, but all the betrayals by friends, family and our "allies." Some examples that I have not publicly revealed before should give some idea of what I mean. For instance, in that interview, I discussed reading an LA Times article about us. I will never forget the feeling of finishing that endless series of lies about us. It was about the last time that I bothered to read or watch a media report on Dennis. But those endless attacks by the media were not the worst part. The worst part was how friends and family swallowed the lies whole, sometimes without ever asking me for my side of the story. One close family member even made a scrapbook from all those lying articles and took it on tour to my friends and family, some of whom were my investors, telling the story of Wade the Criminal. Whistleblowers often say that the hard part of blowing the whistle is not getting skewered by the power structure; it is the support, or lack of it, that their friends and family give them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#whistleblower1

Our employees stealing everything not nailed down on their way out the door was just part of the terrain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient3

I saw and bore the brunt of actions so cowardly and dishonorable, from people very close to me, that I am still getting over it. The fact that personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity is the realization that I resisted the longest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

but it explains why we do not have free energy more than any other factor, by far. Holding that fact in one's awareness is not easy, not when you are still trying to make the world a better place. But, denial of that fact is extremely perilous for any free energy aspirants.

Truly, the enemy is us, not them. But that also means that the savior may be us. That is what I am shooting for. We need to learn to paddle our own canoe.

There is a great tendency among the general population, and I have seen it in this forum, to think that those pulling the strings and doing the dirty work are somehow inhuman. In my perception, they are all too human. Genocidal American saints and heroes such as George Washington, Christopher Columbus and Junípero Serra would have been right at home amongst the Global Controllers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bitter

They are ours. We are all in this together. The Global Controllers and their minions wrecked my life pretty good, but I wish them no ill will, nor do I wish any ill will toward the people in Ventura who acted so criminally.

Again, my game is helping humanity think comprehensively and abundantly.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

My crazy journey may have been “merely” about giving me the experience and “credentials” to credibly engage in such an effort.

Best,

Wade

[kudzy]

Thanks so much Wade. I've been reading your site and I resonate deeply with your material.
I am learning to embrace the new Abundance paradigm and think of these ideas often.
I've also been discussing abundance within my community.

I look forward to sharing more in the future.

[David Hughes]

I agree that 'thinking comprehensively' is the way to go. Knowledge is powerful but i've found that the trick is to channel the information through ones heart before deciding how to use it - a heart based understanding filtering process kind of a thing. Knowing various subject matters inside out is all well and good, but if the knowledge is used to the detriment of others, and to the planet, or just squandered by using it for financial gain or ego pumping, then you are going to run into 'difficulties'.

Are the Global Controllers really just purely motivated by power, greed, ego, preserving the status quo etc? Has the 'dire' karmic consequences of their actions never dawned on them? Do they not believe in karma, cause and effect, you reap what you sow? What am I missing here?

'Imagining' global abundance is one thing but how else can we go about making it manifest into reality?

The first part for me is the comprehensive knowledge based heart thinking, the second then is the imagining part, and the third part is doing something on a personal and collective level to help the whole process along its way. The free energy aspect of it all isn't even the issue- that comes automatically once our hearts and minds are all working together in tandem, and we truly understand what we have learned. But before that happens there is a whole lot of waking up that needs to be done.

[eaglespirit]

Hi Wade...Wishing You Well!

The fact that personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity is the realization that I resisted the longest

We WILL find the 'needles in a haystack' together now more than ever...
The 'needles' of integrity ARE coming together...
This forum CAN and WILL be a catalyst...

Thank You for ALL of Your Diligent Work!

[kudzy]

An example of scarcity.

My friends and I often play boardgames when we get together. I enjoy the games but often feel ill at ease because of the competitive, I win, you loose aspect of most every game. Not to mention so many games are about empire building and world domination. I believe it just reinforces the Zero Sum Game that Wade describes.

An example of abundance.

One notable exception to the competitive games (although not a boardgame) is Hacky Sack. The players all stand in a circle. The objective is to keep a little ball or 'footbag' in the air and have it touch every player before hitting the ground, without using your hands or arms. When this is accomplished it's called a “hack” then everyone touches hands completing the circle and EVERYONE WINS. An important rule is you never 'serve yourself', meaning you always start off by gently tossing the 'hack' (footbag) to another player. Another important rule is you never say “I'm sorry” because we are all equal regardless of experience and ability.

Basically it's a wonderful example of a very simple and fun game that is collaborative rather than competitive. It reinforces the concept of 'lets all work together' (experienced and unexperienced alike) to accomplish something. What I love about it is that Nobody Looses! It's a nice feeling when playing in a large group and a 'hack' is achieved, sometimes it can go around and touch everyone twice thus a 'double hack'.

In terms of energy and economics 'Monopoly' is not going to help us transition to a better world. I would love to see more games that teach/reinforce abundance where everyone wins. I think that simple games could actually be a powerful tool to help demonstrate these ideas.

[David Hughes]

I encourage everyone reading this thread to watch this interview:

ohJuREhJ_OY

If everyone got the message contained within this dialogue, abundance would come naturally.

Enjoy

[Wade Frazier]

Hi

OK, I have a little time. I will do the next installment of the “visions” series for Ilie soon, but first, I need to reply to all those posts. I think that I need to put a link to the posts that I am responding to, because the gap between post and response will likely be like this in the near future. This forum made me get rid of a bunch of the smileys, so I will get rid of a few, but you can see where they were.

Hi K626,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=143677&viewfull=1#post143677

yes, how it will initially come may well be through the system. We always tried working in the system. The rebels that I respect the most were not really rebellious, but overgrown Boy Scouts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

They may try to do the free energy things by a centralized monopoly. But they also realize, as I said in my recent interview:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#g/c/BACC03E294B890CD

that they will not be able to control it that way for long, which is a primary reason why they just keep the lid on it.

Hi Luke:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=144082&viewfull=1#post144082

Yes, the Big Boys are the masters of their game, and trying to beat them at their own game is the path of disaster that I have seen too many times.

Thanks for the thread help.

Wade

Hi wolf_RT:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=144801&viewfull=1#post144801

Yes, the scarcity mindset is baked deeply into the human psyche. It took many years and thousands of interactions, as well as commiserating with people like Brian O, for it to begin to dawn on me what I was really seeing. Then when I was introduced to Bucky’s work and encountered the neo-Malthusians:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm

Then it became pretty clear to me what I had been seeing for all those years, as far as what it all had in common. Then I proposed an antidote:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm

This is a conundrum like no other that I know or have heard of. Yes, raising awareness is the key, and each person needs to be able to think for themselves, and if enough of us can sing the abundance song, because we know the words by heart and they are our words, we may form a chorus. Earth has never seen that before.

We will see how this goes,

Wade

Hi BillyJi:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=145068&viewfull=1#post145068

People can use my public interviews however they wish.

That 70% Plan is brilliant. It is a comprehensivist approach, so it obviously has many overlaps with my writings. I am really happy to see it out there. I am an economics guy, and see energy as the lynchpin, but it will probably take a critical-mass nugget of heart-centered sentience for it to manifest. Allying with something like that is easy for me to do. :) Thanks for making me aware of it.

Best,

Wade

Hi Hughe:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=146339&viewfull=1#post146339

A bunch of us thought that way, of grass-rootsing it, long ago. My attention is elsewhere anymore. It is kind of funny that the open-source, GNU approach keeps getting brought up in this thread. One of my longtime readers is part of the free software movement, and figured that they would be open to something like free energy. Well, I subsequently had a lengthy series of exchanges with who is probably the biggest name in the free software movement, and man, was he stuck. He was a level 3 kind of guy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

This open letter preceded our exchanges, as I recall:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

and his replies inspired this little ditty:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

Maybe the DIY way will prevail, but I am not holding my breath (it would take a few days to relate all the downsides that I have seen to that approach) and decided to do something different long ago.

Best,

Wade

Hi Bill:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=146579&viewfull=1#post146579

I am happy and honored to reply to your post. Yes, science as practiced today is a religion, with its pope, priestly ranks, Inquisitorial foot soldiers and so forth. I see the scarcity-based mindset enveloping all aspects of our civilization, and it can be very subtle. Scarcity is a background hum that pervades the atmosphere. Yes, the self-serving conflicts of interest prevent most scientists from being of any use for helping us get over the hump:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#orthodoxy

Science and religion, in their ideal aspirations, are highly worthy. What we are seeing is their corruption in a scarcity-based reality. So, what could be so liberating, inspiring and enlightening is buried beneath fear, self-serving motivation, and so on. If we turn the corner, science and religion will be redeemed and will merge, to some degree. And neither will have much, if any, resemblance to what we see today.

Yes, it can be a mind-blower to watch “top-shelf” scientists act that way. Brian O encountered it so many times on his “Paul Revere” free energy ride in the late 1990s that he later openly wondered if humanity is a sentient species. I understood, sadly.

Best wishes,

Wade

Hi Steve:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=146626&viewfull=1#post146626

Thanks for reading. We will see how this all goes.

Wade

Hi slvrfx:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=146657&viewfull=1#post146657

Thanks for your story. Unfortunately, it is the standard one, especially for those who play the game in Southern California. Lone wolf inventors in their workshops are easy to pick off, one at a time. The Sparky Sweet dynamic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

has played out innumerable times, in many different variations. When I hear about another inventor who is going to go make a free energy prototype in his garage, get some money raised and scale the ramparts, I don’t want to watch or hear about it. It is like watching lemmings doing swan dives, triple summersaults, and the like, as they head for what they think is welcoming water, but the pool has been drained. I talked about that phenomenon in my recent interview, also.

Sorry to hear about your relative. I believe that Sparky’s official cause of death was a heart attack, mere days after he went into hiding because the threats became so extreme.

When I met Dennis in Seattle, he had a bodyguard because of all the death threats that he received. As I also mentioned in that interview and have written on this thread and elsewhere, in Seattle, Dennis was probably not even being messed with by the Big Boys, but just the local electric interests. There are many levels of the game.

Best,

Wade

Hi K626:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=146674&viewfull=1#post146674

I agree that nothing will be allowed to change from the hydrocarbon fuel paradigm, at least while humanity almost universally slumbers. There is great dissention in the ranks at the Global Controller level, and if enough of us, the great unwashed masses, woke up a little, it would be easy going to heaven on earth.

Best,

Wade

Hi slvrfx:

At least that CIA guy did not end up like Colby:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm#colby

Everybody in my field with any high level experience assumes that they are under surveillance. When people do stuff like merely write, like me, without naming names, they are just watched.

Best,

Wade

Hi Tyler:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=147918&viewfull=1#post147918

When I get posts like yours, it reminds me, very strongly, why I do what I do. It is a great honor to receive posts like yours. It was with much sadness that I removed the ways for the public to contact me in 2002, but the attacks began outweighing the positive interactions, and when one of the attacks tried to get at me through my family, I decided to go silent. I was also entering the really dark phase of my mid-life crisis, and it was a good thing that I was quiet in those years. I joined this forum partly so that people like you could reach me. Well met.

Artists rarely think that their work is complete, and I think that almost all artists feel like failures deep inside, at least at times, because what they manifest in the real world falls so far short of what they imagined it could be. Thanks for the high praise for my site, but when I look at it, I usually shake my head at all the errors of grammar, punctuation, and amateurish writing. That stated, I think that my medical racket essay has held up pretty well over the years. That energy racket essay, however, will largely be replaced by what I am working on. Energy is the centerpiece of the human journey, and almost everything else radiates from it, as if energy was the sun (that was partly unintentional humor :) ).

Best wishes for success in your permaculture work. Cooked food is not all bad. Preserved food largely is, but freshly cooked food has advantages that likely had a lot to do with the evolutionary journey that led to today’s humans.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

I was just reading, yesterday, about how anthropologists roundly attacked his hypothesis. That is how almost all breakthrough theories are initially received. :)

I am a Kinks and Beatles fan. Long story, there. I have seen the Love show in Vegas four times so far.

Best wishes, and so nice to hear from you.

Wade

Hi Honestee:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=148543&viewfull=1#post148543

I believe that farms like that are forerunners to where we might get to, if we can turn the corner.

Best,

Wade

Thanks for your second post, Tyler.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=148721&viewfull=1#post148721

Good stuff. Bohm was cool, and was considered Einstein’s worthy successor, as you know. In my recent interview, I mention how there will be few cities if we make the transition, and what cities exist will be like what Roads saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

(well, maybe not right away, but we will be on our way to creating that kind of world).

Best,

Wade

Hi Steve:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=152855&viewfull=1#post152855

Stay tuned for my upcoming essay. It should provide you some answers to your energy question.

Best,

Wade

Hi Rayne:

I do not have the time to go into it all today, but our evolutionary past is our evolutionary past. Yes, grain-based diets are not something from our ancient evolutionary past, and neither are dairy products (both are very recent innovations, on the evolutionary timescale). If you want to bring back the noble hunter ideal, that is your right, but the hunter-gatherer phase of the human journey drove almost all large animals to extinction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#megafauna

You are looking backward, as is your right, and there is information and wisdom to be found there, but I am happy that chattel slavery has ended, even though its roots are ancient. I am looking forward, however, and that world that Roads saw was all vegetarian, and grain was their staple:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

What you are arguing for is a scarcity-based existence where we need to kill to survive (I call it the Zero-Sum Game). I am doing what I can to transcend that mentality, and with a free energy, abundance-based economy, making a healthy, vegetarian diet for humanity would be child’s play.

As you must know, I do not “promote” a vegetarian diet for everybody, but I mixed it up with the paleo-diet people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm

They are a pretty vicious bunch, in my experience and the experience of people like Robbins,

http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/11/reflections-on-the-weston-a-price-foundation.html

but it is to be expected from people who want to make killing an honored and integral part of the human journey.

Best,

Wade


Hi Collab:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=157239&viewfull=1#post157239

Thanks for the kind offer. You will hear from me directly one day before long. I do not think that my website is all that good, as far as packaging it into a course, and I kind of intended it to be what it is. This is not subject matter for easy or quick study. There would be a lot of work into doing something like that, and this one-man show can only do so much. I have continually resisted making my work commercial in any way. That is the devil’s flypaper for work like mine. Before I ever try to make my work into a course (other than the intended course that my site is today), I would want to rewrite pretty much the entire thing, and that is some years off, if I ever get it done. I think the 70% plan that BillyJi referred to is probably more ready for “show time” than my work is.

Best wishes,

Wade

Hi 9eagle9:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=157675&viewfull=1#post157675

Ilie summarized my views on the sneaky way pretty well. I highly doubt that the underground way will work, for many reasons. It inspires paranoia, “specialness,” and other problems. I avoid the secrecy game whenever possible. I am going to do something that I have not done publicly before. I am not going to change my site because of this post, but this is quasi-public information:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392968/pg7

You can read about his experiences there. He told me a version of it once. Please do not link to my anonymous account on my site. If he ever puts it out there himself, I will name him. I first met him in 2001:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#sacramento

and he spoke at our 2004 NEM conference:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

A lot that I can’t publicly say, but he woke up the hard way, as I did. One of my NASA pals did a little digging into his FE account, and confirmed it with his supervisor when he worked there. You can’t sneak past them. He encountered just a few of their many methods of surveillance.

Best,

Wade

Hi Tyler:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=157867&viewfull=1#post157867

Brilliant posts, young man. You have already been doing what I am trying to inspire others to do.

Best,

Wade

Ernie

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=160529&viewfull=1#post160529

left his forum for now, but we will keep in touch. He calls himself a generalist. Comprehensivist is another term. Big Picture Guy is another. I could write more about the Doubting Thomas issue, but not today. Free energy is a conundrum. I agree with the “toy” aspect to a degree. It sure has not made the Global Controllers wake up quite yet, at least to the point that they collectively “get it.” But free energy will necessarily be the cornerstone of an abundance-based paradigm, so its appearance might well catalyze the Thomases to awaken:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

I know of no other situation like it on Earth. As Scott said in my recent interview, if you begin playing around with free energy, you had better get your armor on.

Hi Hughe:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=160632&viewfull=1#post160632

You are describing an aspect of the conundrum. The only prayer that I see for the inventor route is for an inventor with the goods to give it to a worthy group. I have never met that inventor nor have I encountered or heard of that worthy group. Humanity ain’t there, yet. Again, and I am sure that I am sounding like a broken record on this issue: personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

Less than one in a thousand people in the general population are fit to even begin that journey of going the inventor/activist route to free energy. People like Dennis are about one in a billion. I am “only” looking for those one in hundreds that can just imagine abundance. The number might really be one in thousands, but I am being optimistic. :)

That group, if I can ever help amass it (I may be starting to), can help carry the ball until humanity is ready to.

Best,

Wade

Hi Kudzy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=164729&viewfull=1#post164729

Thanks for the post, and I would be interested in how your abundance talk is going, and what the general parameters of your community are. I have never seen or heard of a sizeable group that really embraced practical abundance as an idea. They go down the airy-fairy new agey path, embrace austerity and think it is abundance, bring in the “scientists” who say it is all impossible, and many other paths that are not going to get there.

Best,

Wade

Hi Tyler:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=164732&viewfull=1#post164732

It is a conundrum. Yes, when enough of us have our hearts and minds get aligned with abundance, the rest should be easy. At least, that is my theory. : )

Best,

Wade

Hi eaglespirit:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=166263&viewfull=1#post166263

I pray that you are right! : )

Best wishes,

Wade

Hi Kudzy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=168019&viewfull=1#post168019

I know what you are talking about all too well. I am an American. : )

I have refused to play any game where there is a winner and loser for the past twenty years or so.

Hi Tyler:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=169293&viewfull=1#post169293

Krishnamurti lived near me when I was young, and my wife heard him speak once. Cool dude. Not sure when I will find the time to watch it, but those two going at it has to be good stuff.

Wade

Thanks again for the posts. My next post will be the next visions post that Ilie has been pestering me about. :)

Enjoy the spring, all you who live in the temperate northern part of the planet.

Wade

[penn]

Hey Wade,

Can you comment on John Searle's work?
His latest business venture [URL="http://searlmagnetics.com/"] and[URL="http://swallowcommand.com/index-1d.html"]
I think that if we could start buying something like this for "camping" and "emergencies" that people would accept the fact that energy could be supplied a different way.

Any comment would be appreciated.

Thanks, Penn (some of us are handicap with inserting links) hmmm? wonder who?

http://searlmagnetics.com
http://swallowcommand.com/index-1d.html

[collab]

Hi,

I look forward to hearing from you Wade. Let's discuss and see if we can come up with a direction that seems to work. Maybe one day the course notion will present itself, but trust your feelings to this end; until then other options for information re-packaging are available to us, if desired, which could be a revamp of the site -- who knows.

Talk to you soon. Collab.

[David Hughes]

Thanks for the reply Wade.

One of the things that drew me to your website was its clean style - no adverts, no fancy graphics or bells and whistles, no sales pitches trying to sell anything anywhere - just well researched and well written essays with abundant links and references.

Thanks again for taking the time to put it out there.

[Chelle]

So, if you are willing, let us imagine this…..

Imagine that your abode is in your ideal setting. Imagine that it is as large as you need it to be. It is made from substances that caused no loss of biological life to become the structure of your home. Imagine that it sits in complete harmony with the surrounding ecosystem. The water in your home is as pure as rainwater. If you want, you can have a pool of this water in your home, as warm as you wish it to be, for your enjoyment. The free energy device that powers your home keeps the water continually pure. Part of your home grows your food, food that is always alive. It is mostly fruit, and whatever fruit you wish it to be. You have growing rooms that can be as light, dark, wet, dry, hot or cold as you wish. If you want to do some cooking, everything that you need is at your disposal.

Every room in your home has perfect climate-control. When you leave your home, always because there is someplace that you want to go to, your craft takes you there swiftly, silently, and safely, and there is no exhaust from the craft, as it runs on free energy. Your home is made of substances that degrade very slowly in the environment (such as glass and stainless steel, for instance), so it almost never needs maintenance. Your home is entirely self-contained, and you can move it to anywhere in the world you want, anytime you want. You can meet your basic needs with less than an hour of “work” per day. The rest of your waking day is spent doing whatever you wish, be it exercise, study, mediation, playing, being entertained, making love, puttering around the house or engaging in efforts that involve and fulfill your community. Because you can travel the entire planet in little time, the members of your community might be as close as a hundred yards or as far as 12,000 miles away. Your community might be all of humanity, and may even include non-human life forms, including those on our planet or on the planets of our galactic and inter-dimensional neighbors, who often visit.

You live on a planet where everybody lives in peace and plenty. There is no want, and there is no hunger. There is abundance regarding our physical lives, but also there is emotional and mental abundance. Humanity’s intelligence, emotional depth and happiness are realized at levels that were incredible to behold in the early days of the transition, but everybody eventually came to realize that such is our natural state, and nobody desired anything less.

There is my initial vision. Free energy can catalyze that world into being, in my lifetime and even sooner. Together, we can make it happen. What do you think?

Wade[/QUOTE]

Hi Wade,

Thankyou for talking to us.

This is quite strange because I have been imagining this for years now (not exactly your vision but very close).

I have a Science education.

My first mantra every day is " I am rich in the abundance of life" and it works, as long as your willing to work hard, at ground level.

Kindest Regards and Greatest Respect
Chelle

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

This was not a planned post (I still plan to do the next visions post soon), but, like everybody knows (especially those of us on the USA's West Coast, who are wondering if we are going to get fallout from Japan), it is clear once again that we have a catastrophe (or near-catastrophe) on our hands that is a direct outcome of our energy practices. From the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, to the "humanitarian" no-fly zones that the imperial powers want to impose on Libya, to the Gulf Oil Spill, to the reactor disaster in Japan, it is all about our energy practices, and specifically how energy scarcity leads us down the path of genocidal invasions of nations that have the energy (but not the ability to prevent imperial invasions), insanely dangerous practices such as drilling into ocean floors in search of oil, putting nuclear reactors next to major fault lines, and so on.

I watched somebody close to me go off the deep end over the Gulf Spill last year, and if a cloud of radioactivity begins heading my way, I expect it to get pretty hysterical around here. I have been trying to prevent all of this since I was a teenager, but here we go.

However, I am not interested in taking extreme measures for helping free energy move past the suppression stage (while the Global Controllers have had that technology since before I was born). My game is making free energy and an abundance-based world thinkable. These mounting catastrophes should make more and more people at least try to think about energy in an enlightened way, but there are no shortcuts to enlightenment and there are not going to be any shortcuts and five-minute solutions for bringing free energy forward. I am going to keep working diligently on my essay, to the extent that I can, and we will see where it goes from there.

I understand the desperation that many are feeling very keenly, believe me, but we can't go at this from a desperation mindset, at least if we really want to solve the problem, which at its roots lies in the human heart.

Best wishes, and good luck, wherever you are,

Wade

[Billy]

Hi:


I understand the desperation that many are feeling very keenly, believe me, but we can't go at this from a desperation mindset, at least if we really want to solve the problem, which at its roots lies in the human heart.

Best wishes, and good luck, wherever you are,

Wade

I agree Wade, Generating energy for some reason causes all our worlds problems, Wars, Control, Money, Greed, Manmade disasters, the list goes on. I have had meetings with enviromental MP's written letters to government, the feadback i recieve from them all is Education, They say please educate us. Thank you for helping to educate humanity.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Unfortunately, this is only the start of a dying regime of power-mongers that must be played out before a new paradigm of abundance can flourish. It will get far worse.
This is not to be understood by the mind, which can only respond with fear. This is a matter of the heart, for only it can respond correctly - with love.
Today, and the coming days, are a test for those who are ready to respond with caring and compassion.
The more the PTBs ellicit and instill a sense of fear among the populace, the more we must respond with the love and the strength of our unshaking faith and knowledge of our One True Source.
Rejoice! For the mounting hysteria is our time to counter with the insurmountable certainty of our Creator and the great plan for the peace and prosperity of the future world!
There is only One Heart. Find it,feel it and Be It!
Be the change...

[steven69]

Hi Wade et al,

With Japan's nuclear situation seemingly worsening by the day there will be much angst during the review in the provision of safe future energy supplies. One feels so powerless and my heart goes out to all those suffering presenty but in the future could these events in Japan act as a catalyst for forums/platforms that we might we be able to link up with and spread the idea of thinking about the abundance paradigm?

I appreciate that simply "thinking" will be of small consolation to the people suffering right now I know but I am trying see the bigger picture in time - or will we need to suffer an even bigger event before we can get such a idea taking enough of a hold?

I noticed in todays UK telegraph there is a Wikileaks report of atomic watchdogs waring Japanese authorities about the ability of reactors to withstand large quakes 2 years ago and questions being asked as to whether enough/anything had beed done. Could this kind of public pressure be bought to bear to assist in revaluation of energy creation? I know that plenty of people consider Wikileaks to be a tool of the GC's though!

http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8384059/Japan-earthquake-Japan-warned-over-nuclear-plants-WikiLeaks-cables-show.html


Best wishes, Steven

[Wade Frazier]

Sorry Ilie!

I will probably make a post or two on this situation in Japan before I get that next vision essay done. First, let me respond to posts since my long one last weekend.

Hi Penn:

All I have to say about Searl is here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=141336&highlight=searl#post141336

I really do not follow the FE inventor crowd much.

Best,

Wade

Hi Collab:

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Hi Tyler:

Ah, I could also improve the content a lot more, and update a lot of the material for new findings. There are a few areas that need updating, and some places where I am not quite saying it right. It needs to be tweaked a little. No changes in the primary thrusts, but it can be better. All I have been doing is making the content as good as I can, and that “spare” site format that you like is intentional, but I also do the web mastering myself and have a very limited skillset there. Yes, I want the content to speak, not a fancy presentation, although you will see how I use more graphics and images in my upcoming essay, to get the points across in a way that words have a difficult time doing.

Best,

Wade

Hi Chelle:

Thanks for writing. Glad to see you doing the visioning thing. It looks like maybe your imagination got “infected” somehow. :)

Best,

Wade

Hi BillyJi

Thanks. Yes, we need education right now, perhaps more than ever.

Wade

Hi Ernie:

Yes, this could be the beginning of the end of a lot of old regime stuff. We will see. Yes, love is it.

Best,

Wade

Hi Steven:

About all that any of us Westerners can do right now is pray. I don’t know about Wikileaks. A lot of polarized opinion, but what is for sure is that the reaction of the USA’s press is to kill off leaks, not address what the leaks are about. No government anywhere is really all that devoted to the welfare of its people. While we live in scarcity, governments are about who gets the chips. By and large, the sociopaths run the show. As far as what kind of government pressure can be brought to bear, I do not know, and do not play that game. I am doing my best to not look to the “powerful” to do anything. We abdicate our sovereignty when we do that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

Power to and from the people is my game.

Best,

Wade

OK, a few words about current events. I just got done listening to an “alternative” radio show that, in the end, promoted nuclear energy as relatively safe and one of our only energy alternatives, and that those old reactors in Japan are not state-of-the-art reactors that are “inherently safe.” It is really painful for me to listen to stuff like that. It is similar to the hydrocarbon fuel situation. The disastrous problems are from the beginning to the end of the process, from subjugating nations that have the hydrocarbons but cannot repel imperial invasions, to the devastating environmental impacts of oil exploration (think the Gulf Spill for starters), to the monopolistic practices of the oil companies, going back to John D. Rockefeller, to all the shenanigans to wipe out mass transportation in the USA to make the “individualistic” automobile, to the pollution that burning hydrocarbons creates, and so on.

With nuclear energy, the Navajo, for instance, have suffered greatly because their “worthless” lands were discovered to hold uranium ore, and the entire nation got enslaved to the nuclear interests, with lung cancers from the breathing the uranium mine air, and many negative effects, to the awesome environmental damage that comes from mining it, refining it, the dangers of transporting it, to the dirty economics and politics behind making nuclear power plants. The dangers of running a nuclear plant are relatively minor when compared to the negative impacts that attend the entire process. Then the “decommissioning” of the plants, the immense problem of the waste, the awesome corruption in the nuclear waste industry, and the fact that there is only enough mineable uranium to power today’s level of civilization for a century or so. It is all insane. My relationship with the nuclear industry goes all the way back to Whoops:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#whoops

to getting our company snuffed out by the electric companies in Washington:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

to offering to buy a nuclear plant on the East Coast:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#seabrook

to speaking at Department of Energy hearings regarding the nuclear waste issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

So, watching the events play out in Japan is particularly wrenching for me, partly because I know how unnecessary it all is, on several levels (such as living in flimsy structures – in a free energy world, tsunamis would be nothing at all, threat-wise). A few hours ago, I received my first phone call from a friend who has a relative who is looking for radiation supplies, here in Washington State. The real risk of having to huddle up to avoid a radioactive cloud from Japan is pretty small, being that it is 5,000 miles away. Maybe, some Americans fear that some 1945-style karma is blowing our way. That is another subject that I probably know more about than is healthy for my psyche:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping

Again, I am doing what I can to raise the conversation above all that. One of the mottoes that I have seen in the business world for many years is, “I can’t be bothered with patching the hull right now, I am too busy bailing.” Prevention is the way out, not mopping up the blood from the lack of prevention. I see it in business, medicine, and in most areas where humans operate. We need to see farther, see wisely, and understand where we are heading and where we can go, if we just bothered to open our eyes a little.

These have been hard times for quite a while, and as Ernie said, this is a test. :)

Best wishes and good luck,

Wade

[Billy]

Hi Wade, I would like your comments on this post by one of John Searls Friends, Titled. How the SEG functions and ELIMINATES RADIATION

Link for full Article is on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/billy.mackail?ref=profile#!/notes/jason-verbelli/how-the-seg-functions-and-eliminates-radiation/10150108985423310


Gravity is an implosive force which travels inward and cools. Radiation is an explosive force traveling outward and heats. Heat always seeks cool.

Low frequencies are cooler than higher frequencies.



The Searl Effect Generator operates at an extremely low frequency and converts higher frequencies like nuclear radiation to a lower frequency which resonates with the SEG.

The rate at which a radioactive particle cools will determine how much electricity is put out as an equal and opposite reaction.



As the SEG eliminates the half-life of radioactivity, the reaction creates excess electricity which we can practically use for energy to power things. There is limitless background radiation in the universe, therefore the SEG will run forever because that IS its fuel source.



The SEG is an open system like a hydroelectric dam.

In this case, we are controlling the flow of electrons rather than water.



The reservoir is the unmagnetized rare earth material Neodymium.

The dam itself is the dielectric material Teflon.

The electrons will accelerate from the rare earth material in an organized fashion through the teflon like water shooting out of a pressurized and controlled hole in a dam.

The teflon can only hold back so much electron pressure just like a dam can only hold so much water pressure.

The electrons will pass through the teflon into the ferrite permanent magnet layer where they are accelerated outward in a ring. The magnets act as the diode and one way valve.

The electrons are accelerated into the copper layer.

The copper acts as the emitter for the electric current which is now a constant flow.

We place coils around the rings as to collect the available electricity.



While neutralizing nuclear radiation and biohazardous waste, we are able to power homes, cars, hospitals, villages and anything we use today.



This is not a question of physics anymore. We know how the device operates. It's a question of electrical engineering.



Show me the circuit in a hydroelectric dam for a given drop of water and I'll show you the circuit for an electron in the SEG.



The answer is that you can't because that water drop evaporates into a different form which becomes part of the whole system. At the quantum level, the water drop disperses to become part of all other water drops which then condense in the clouds and then rain into the reservoir.



Nature is a self perpetuating system.

The SEG operates in the same fashion as an open source system following the laws of Nature.

The second law of thermodynamics doesn't apply to a hydroelectric dam therefore it doesn't apply to Searl Technology or the SEG.



This is a new era of clean technology based on implosion, gravity, and creation of life rather than explosion, nuclear reactions, destruction and death.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi BillyJi:

I am sorry, but I am not really a free energy physics guy. Right now, I am listening to another nuclear industry talking head (this one from academia) saying that however bad the Japan nuclear disaster gets, we "need" nuclear energy. This is probably the primary thrust of my work: we have options! Choosing the lesser to two or three evils still ends up with evil. It is agonizing to witness how willfully people like Heinberg, who feigns some interest in free energy, dismiss it so totally.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm

Heinberg is a level three guy, as are most of the "smart" people in the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Brian O also found that out long ago, as he played the Paul Revere of free energy in the late 1990s. Brian tries to make FE scientifically respectable, but even he would probably not want to touch that stuff from Searl's site. I come from the activist side of the house, where I and those around me played at high enough levels where we met with Sparky Sweet and studied his gizmo:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Bill stated that he dealt with a Hawking-level scientist recently:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=146579&viewfull=1#post146579

I have no doubt about that scientist's reaction. We had some Tesla-level people on our team, and they could talk all day long on that clip from Searl's site, but I know just enough to be dangerous. Lots and lots of alternative theory out there, and the vast majority is the chaff of the free energy field. Waxing theoretical and making something that works are vastly different exercises, and if you do make something work, it won’t be in circulation for long.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

I write about what I know, here, on the FE physics front:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=98022&highlight=manning#post98022

That Searl clip is familiar to me, in that it aligns with what a lot of ZPF theorists say. All I will say is, "Could be." Sparky's device was undoubtedly real. What my pal saw in the underground situation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#underground

was very real, and made what all FE inventors are working on look like boys making sandcastles.

I'll say this: while Searl is playing the "protecting my inventor's rights" game, he will never get anywhere. That is some of the real obvious and easy flypaper for free energy aspirants. The self-interested are effortlessly easy to derail, and the vast majority of the time they fall on their own swords before they ever do anything productive. That is a major facet of the conundrum.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

When I joined for this forum, I mentioned that I have not done Internet social networking, and my jury was out for some time on responding to “friendship” requests. Well, today, I got this message, from somebody who sent me a friendship request that I had yet to respond to:

“Neither xxx or yyy felt a need to refuse a hand extended in friendship. To me, I will always remember what a snob you were.”

I am from a different generation, and “friendship” requests in an Internet setting strike me as somewhat foolish. My father told me when I was a young man that if I made two true friends in my life, I would be doing well. Many years later, I see the wisdom in that statement. I will no longer be receiving or responding to friendship requests at Avalon or any future forums that I participate in. I think I turned off the feature on my profile, but we will see if it worked.

I think it was at Facebook, about the only time I ever visited it a few years ago, that I looked up Quincy Jones and he had about 250,000 “friends.” How ridiculous. Social networking on the Internet is seen by my generation as kind of strange. I suppose that all younger generations see the older ones as stuck and behind the times, and that is their right. Because I have been on the front lines, I have a lot of respect for what Bill has done and he would be welcome in my home, but I have not “friended” him, nor has he done so with me.

I have a soft spot in my heart for quite a few of the posters in this forum, and together we may be able to start something that can make a difference. We will see where this all leads us.

Right now, I am in daily agony about what is happening in Japan. I would like to wave my wand and shut all of those reactors down. Humanity might be getting the message about how crazy nuclear energy is, and I would like to think that we do not need any more displays of its dangers. However, I still see talking heads, even in “alternative” radio, saying that whatever the outcome of the Japanese crisis is, we should still keep pursuing nuclear energy because we have no choice. Statements like that tell me how far we have to go. I am looking for all the level 12s that I can find, or those who can get there with a little help:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Best wishes,

Wade

[steven69]

Hi:

When I joined for this forum, I mentioned that I have not done Internet social networking, and my jury was out for some time on responding to “friendship” requests. Well, today, I got this message, from somebody who sent me a friendship request that I had yet to respond to:

“Neither xxx or yyy felt a need to refuse a hand extended in friendship. To me, I will always remember what a snob you were.”

I am from a different generation, and “friendship” requests in an Internet setting strike me as somewhat foolish. My father told me when I was a young man that if I made two true friends in my life, I would be doing well. Many years later, I see the wisdom in that statement. I will no longer be receiving or responding to friendship requests at Avalon or any future forums that I participate in. I think I turned off the feature on my profile, but we will see if it worked.

I think it was at Facebook, about the only time I ever visited it a few years ago, that I looked up Quincy Jones and he had about 250,000 “friends.” How ridiculous. Social networking on the Internet is seen by my generation as kind of strange. I suppose that all younger generations see the older ones as stuck and behind the times, and that is their right. Because I have been on the front lines, I have a lot of respect for what Bill has done and he would be welcome in my home, but I have not “friended” him, nor has he done so with me.

I have a soft spot in my heart for quite a few of the posters in this forum, and together we may be able to start something that can make a difference. We will see where this all leads us.

Right now, I am in daily agony about what is happening in Japan. I would like to wave my wand and shut all of those reactors down. Humanity might be getting the message about how crazy nuclear energy is, and I would like to think that we do not need any more displays of its dangers. However, I still see talking heads, even in “alternative” radio, saying that whatever the outcome of the Japanese crisis is, we should still keep pursuing nuclear energy because we have no choice. Statements like that tell me how far we have to go. I am looking for all the level 12s that I can find, or those who can get there with a little help:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Best wishes,

Wade

Hi Wade,

Yes the old internet friendship conundrum! My dad used to talk about 4 true friends picked up on lifes' journey so I suppose I should at least be grateful that I might end up with twice of many friends as you! All joking aside I shake my head at facebook collecting of thousand of friends and discuss the issues of insecurity etc. for those involved with my children but that pales into insiginificance about what people are actually posting which we also discuss occasionally!

So we either have to choose between starting a campaign to bombard you with friend requests on mass to change your mind or just leave you alone to be stuck in your old grouchy ways? Only kidding - please take no offence from whoever made the "snob" comment and roll with it and carry on with your inspiring work.

I have ended up be-friending a 3 or 4 people based upon "secondary level" PM dicussions and not worried either way about collecting any more on the basis that I genuinely feel privileged to be involved in a forum of decent people in the first place and friendships will mature over time and who knows one day someone may be lucky enough to become my 5th true friend! I have yet to fall out with someone but I suppose I ought to check if there is an unfriend button as well before I make/throw too many invites out!;)

On a more serious note I mentioned today to a medical doctor that I was concerned about the Japanese reactors going into full melt down and she said not to worry as even the Long Island incident had not got as bad as it could have done and with enough pray and human focus things will be pulled back from the brink again - certainly neither of us were nuclear sceintists but we agreed that we truly hoped that this was the going to be the case and that nuclear energy should be set aside once and for all. She prompted me to think positivley again and tonight the abundance vision will get a boost!

Best wishes, Steven

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wade,

I want to add my words to those of Steven. Please do not let yourself put down by that message :).

I have a quote I use in this cases. Perhaps you will like it too: "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ;)

- Ilie

[Wade Frazier]

Ah yes, that curmudgeon in training! :)

Was I whining? Maybe so, but I think it was more along the lines of presenting why I am bowing out of the “friending” thing, while also demonstrating the childishness that can attend it. Yes, a rude message like that is not pleasant to receive, not at Avalon, but I am battling on several fronts at the moment, and maybe it would be helpful to get a peek into what I am doing.

First and foremost, my day job gets most of my lifeblood, and everything I do outside of that is just a sideshow. I work in high-pressure high technology, where everybody that I have seen come and go above me over the past several years has walked off with between $2 million and $40 million each, with the average probably $7 million or so. It is not Microsoft, but the Microsoft phenomenon was the first in high tech, with obscene fortunes being made by many people at once (Microsoft spawned, the last that I looked, 12,000 millionaires, most near where I live). With that much capitalistic blood in the water, the environments can become pretty intense, and the cutthroats and gold diggers have been insinuating themselves into the field for many years, and it shows, although it is still largely one big Revenge of the Nerds episode. The field is getting ruined by its success, however, which is typical, in our scarcity-based system. The reproduction of intelligence is in its infancy, so high tech has quite a future ahead of it, if we do not wipe ourselves out over the energy issue.

So, I make a comfortable living, but 12-hour days are typical. It has been a struggle to maintain my health (I am an old man in the field), and I recently have had to face mortality issues. They can come take me away any day, but I hope it is not until I finish my energy essay! :)

A couple of years ago, Brian O and I came back into each other’s orbit a bit. He asked me to help him with this paper:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

At the same time, he asked me to get his NASA bio published, as well as improve his Wikipedia biography. It was an honor to help, but it has not been much fun. I chose a strategy of getting the NASA bio published first:

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/oleary-bt.html

and then tackle the Wikipedia one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary

I had to eventually bypass NASA’s front door and go to the astronauts directly.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn5

Even then, when it was published, a NASA spokesman, enlisting the aid of a NASA historian, challenged Brian’s Mars credentials. The astronaut corps obviously did not have a problem with them (his astronaut interview probably makes the list of ten most amazing interviews ever), and I can see why:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#mars

But I wanted to get the NASA bio done before I tackled Wikipedia, because I was not looking forward to that experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm

Before I rewrote Brian’s Wikipedia bio (and Brian provided me a great deal of input), it was a pretty short bio, and Brian was understandably not happy about it. Because I was involved with the moon landings hoax issue long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

and interacted with Brian on it long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#governor

I knew quite well about the firestorm that surrounded him. I decided to leave alone what was already written, knowing that as much as we would like the issue to disappear, the public will not let it. As edit wars began breaking out over the moon issue in his bio:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brian_O%27Leary#The_Moon_Hoax_edit_wars

I asked Brian what he wanted to do, and he gave me his “final word” on the issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

As you can tell by the history tracking on his bio, I am losing the edit battles, but I think that I will win the war. I just need to find a “reliable” place to host his statement, link to it from Wikipedia, and then I think I will be done. However, I am not getting anywhere yet, and when I have looked for help so far, this has generally been the outcome:

http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=theories&thread=2321&page=5#89929

As you can see, as of yesterday, I got zero help from that forum, and I doubt that any will be coming. I have other avenues to try. Last night, I was in a fit over that situation. What a thankless task it has been. My wife is very unhappy that I am doing this public stuff right now, and I can’t blame her. When I had those interview sessions with Scott, about two hours was off the record (the juicy stuff), and one topic of discussion was our long-suffering wives. That is pretty much a constant for men playing the FE and fringe game, if they don’t burn through a marriage or two along the way.

Then, the usual peanut gallery comments on our Camelot interview on You Tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfNxKc-DezY

spurred a relative to dart into the fray, making things worse, and I got that one resolved a few days ago. Then, one of my attackers, after a brief hiatus after I tried belling that cat, is baaaaack.

Then we have had the Japanese catastrophe over the past week (it seems like a month ago, but it is only a week ago today that the quake hit), which is an issue near and dear to my heart. That has probably been the most devastating part of my week. Oh yeah, another bomb got dropped on my personal life a couple of days ago, which pretty much is going to ruin my year and will likely impact when I get that essay done. Oh, and I also have some difficult issues at my day job, too, the kind that can make for sleepless nights.

So, that is a sampling of a day in the life.

But, when I post here, and an Ilie or Ernie begins to sing the abundance song, in a way that I know that it is becoming their song, that is a “mission accomplished” moment. I do not get very many of those in my life. Tyler is representative of many of my readers over the years, and it is nice when I hear from them or see them singing their song and doing what they can. I am just planting seeds anymore, and once in a while, I get to see one sprout. If for no other reason, I am deeply grateful for the efforts that led to this forum, Bill’s in particular.

Ilie, I plan to post the next visions installment in the next few days.

Steven, my father was repeating somebody else’s “two friends” wisdom, but it was also his perspective. I have been more fortunate, sort of. I fit the hermit archetype: I want deep, meaningful interaction or none. On my journey, what I have had with Dennis, for instance, goes beyond friendship, beyond family. It is hard to describe what our relationship is. I found out who my friends were during the nightmare years with Dennis, and they are like gold nuggets to me today. Tested friendships are the ones that can last and be meaningful.

Best,

Wade

[Hughe]

More and more people are talking about free energy to general public.

Benjamin Fulford is a fine example. He is straightforward: World peace, free energy technologies. It is realistic and true solution we can accomplish. Contrary to the good-looking, heart-feeling environmentalists or New Age groups saying "Love and light" will save us.

I'm going to spread out the reality of free energy people around me too.

In worst case of scenario, 1.4 billions of Asian people: Japan, Korea, China will be in danger of radiation fallout. Three countries share the air and sea water. I live in Korea and I can't buy a KI bottle at local drug stores. The Korean government has zero plan for the potential danger.

We have to protect ourselves and keep moving on the right direction. Life is too precious to give up our sovereignty as human and a species.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Hughe:

Yes, at the fringes, there is some noise, and I think it is helpful in that more people are at least hearing about it, so they get beyond Level 0.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Just before reading your post, I was invited to take part in a FE cyber-gathering. I am not sure about it, partly because I am kind of not in the FE milieu. I am a rather odd bird in the field, partly because I am a comprehensivist, and partly because I am one of the few who was seriously suppressed and not completely wrecked by the experience (most of the others that I know really have not been through the meat grinder, so they tend to play boy-general or tinkerer or the many other orientations that I doubt will get us there).

I also generally do not like hanging with the FE community much, and my efforts have been to reach out to those not in the field. As Brian O said in our Camelot interview:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new

it needs new blood. And, I am trying to orient people differently, and for those who have been following my thread at Avalon, they can see how difficult it is, because almost everybody is oriented around the inventor approach, the DIY approach, the “find some rich and powerful benefactors” approach, the government approach, the “get the bad guys” approach, and so on. This is one heck of a conundrum, but I will agree that the more people who can get beyond Level 0 (and not because they watched The Incredibles), the better.

Yes, nuclear catastrophes can help wake people up, but, for instance, I thought that 9/11 might wake Americans up a little to what the impacts of our imperial behavior are on the world (if 9/11 was not an inside job). Generally, the opposite happened. I never saw so much abdicated sentience as I saw after 9/11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

as Americans adopted the full-on herd mode, and now we have a permanent military presence in Oil Country, with another imperial foray into Libya just around the corner (for “humanitarian” reasons, of course :) http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#humanitarian). So, this nuclear disaster, on one hand, may help awaken people. However, they can just as easily go even further asleep, as fear makes them abdicate their sentience and become easily herded into some draconian program designed to “save us.”

Best,

Wade

[steven69]

Hi Wade,

I spent yesterday delving into your website following some of the links posted and some other fascinating areas! Other than trying to focus on the abundance paradigm - one issue that I had been concerned and thinking about was the transition phase of FE being accepted as a pathway we will take and actually bringing it online and it not getting hijacked for nerfarious purposes. You touched on this problem in your 2009 paper - Impacts of Establishing a Breakthrough New Energy Economy. A potentially tricky phase for sure - is that something you will be expanding upon in your next essay?

Once you have established a sufficient ground swell in the abundance vision in the first instance do you still envisage the establishment of a voluntary advisory group of independent and knowledgeable citizens to devise scenarios for the transitions to and implementation of new energy? I agree that humanity would also need to think beyond and ensure there are robust safeguards in place to prevent the abuse of these technologies.


Delving deeper into your material yesterday was well worth while and I would recommend others doing the same - particularly some of the later sections to get a better appreciation of where you are coming from and your "bigger picture" view and understand why you consider yourself "an odd bird" in this FE field.

You are right about us ensuring that we do not let fear take a hold and allow people to be herded and I will be trying my little bit today to be positive with those I interact with.

Keep up the good work and carry on juggling all those competing tasks without letting anyone steal your "mojo":cool:

Best Wishes, Steven

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Steven:

Well, this Japan disaster and a few other issues got me a little more active at Avalon right now. I plan to go quiet again soon, but your “how do we get there” question is a good one and part of the conundrum. Right now, at the public level where you and I live, there has never been a FE effort that was not pretty easily bottled up. What we had going in the late 1980s, and what Dennis had going in 1996, was about as close as anybody ever got on the mass movement part of the equation, and it did not really take all that much effort to derail it. Most of the damage was done by our “allies,” etc.

Today, no publicly-mounted effort has a prayer, not when hardly anybody knows anything about how the “normal” energy paradigm works, much less a FE paradigm. The public is in the dark, largely willingly. I believe (and this is where I could be accused of being sneaky, but I am putting it out there) that it takes a great deal of personal integrity to unhook from the propaganda machine and all the scarcity-based “isms”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

to simply imagine abundance. Far more than you might think. If people doubt it, then can try it out, publicly, talking to everybody they know about the abundance message. But, I have been there, many times, and know how it works:

http://www.serendipity.li/fe/minefields.htm

So, this seemingly innocuous effort that I am making, of making free energy and abundance imaginable, is actually rounding up people that have enough personal integrity (but I am not asking anybody to be a hero) that if there were a few thousand of us singing the song, it will likely go a long way toward amassing the nugget needed to form that critical mass. The bottom line is that plans and strategies will not mean anything without that nugget of heart-centered sentience. If and when that nugget gets amassed (for example, if Avalon was the only avenue going, we are less than 1% of the way there), I think that taking action will become pretty obvious and may be the easy part. With enlightenment, there does not need to be a struggle (the Marxists do not believe that, but their materialism has blinkered them). Another analogy is saying that we are journeying to a distant and unexplored realm, but we will not quite know what it looks like until we see it for ourselves. Then, we will know better what to do. It is the integrity that is important, not the plans so much. I present some principles and outlines, however:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

Here is something that I have seen over and over in these areas…

Going after free energy, as far as bringing it to humanity goes, will be an odyssey that has never been experienced before. Playbooks and blueprints can only be helpful hints. That is why I based my “lessons learned” essay in a general principle format, because detailed plans are very premature. I saw that during my days with Dennis all the time, where newbies were already figuring out how they were going to divide up their global kingdom, and we had barely begun (and never really got anywhere, except learning some hard lessons). I have seen people play boy-general with this stuff, who have never set foot on that battlefield but have their plan for how to win. Battle plans always look great until the first shot is fired. I don’t want a battle, and I do not believe in them, but I think you get my point.

If there is not enough collective integrity to even form a choir, then we will certainly not have to worry about transition plans, because we will have never left the starting gate. This is a test, and it is taking place right now. The Indiana Joneses can do their thing, but without a sufficient nugget of heart-centered sentience, somewhere on the planet, even if only in cyberspace, that can lend an “atmosphere” of support, they will not have a prayer. I hope that we no longer need Indiana Joneses.

Thanks for asking the question,

Wade

[filsmyth]

9FuJrQK6TJ4

Everyone,

I have not been keeping up with this thread and cannot wait until I get myself caught up to post this video. It is very important and should be shared widely.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FuJrQK6TJ4

Will attempt to read through what I have been missing here now...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Fil:

I do not know about Fulford. I know that he is a Camelot witness and I am aware of his story. All I know in this realm is that FE technology is real, anti-gravity is real, and a Raiders of the Lost Ark hoard of exotic technologies has been kept under wraps for a long time, and no independent effort to bring any of those technologies to the public has been successful, for various reasons, and yes, Godzilla stomps on efforts when he needs to, but he gets a lot help from the public and the other predators in the jungle. My understanding, and it could be wrong, is that Kissinger, the Rockefellers and gang (I have some inside information about their operations, and I am not too impressed) do not operate at the highest levels. Those that do, you have never heard of. When my pal got his show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

he did not even know who gave it to him. About engineered disasters and the like, or what is happening at the high levels, I am not privy to any of it. I will stay tuned to what Fulford is doing, but it will be from a distance. I would imagine, however, that Fulford’s message is not for them, but for the public. The Big Boys do not need to get it through public channels. I keep my head down and do what I do, and try to not get too distracted by those battles, if they are indeed battles. I’ll take the Muppet Movie ending, and maybe there is one coming soon, and maybe not. I try to not play spectator for that stuff, but do what I can to help raise awareness.

Best,

Wade

[ThePythonicCow]

I would imagine, however, that Fulford’s message is not for them, but for the public.
yup .

[filsmyth]

The battles are indeed going on. I'm sure Fulford could have given many names that wouldn't mean anything to anyone, and at the same time I'm sure there are names he dare not mention...

This is happening. It's real. I for one am glad Benjamin has the balls to announce it to the public.

[steven69]

The battles are indeed going on. I'm sure Fulford could have given many names that wouldn't mean anything to anyone, and at the same time I'm sure there are names he dare not mention...

This is happening. It's real. I for one am glad Benjamin has the balls to announce it to the public.

Hi Filsmyth,

It is fascinating stuff and he certainly does have balls. There is another thread where the merits of what he claims and his legitimacy etc. and debated in depth and it worth a dip in there.

Whilst I hope that Japan's suffering was the beginning of the end - we can only speculate at the moment. The Western (particularly Australian) media fear stories are almost limitless at the moment but there was the heart warming tale of the 80 year old & 16 year grandson found alive today - he had managed to get at some food from the fridge!

Best Wishes, Steven

[steven69]

Hi Fil:

I do not know about Fulford. I know that he is a Camelot witness and I am aware of his story. All I know in this realm is that FE technology is real, anti-gravity is real, and a Raiders of the Lost Ark hoard of exotic technologies has been kept under wraps for a long time, and no independent effort to bring any of those technologies to the public has been successful, for various reasons, and yes, Godzilla stomps on efforts when he needs to, but he gets a lot help from the public and the other predators in the jungle. My understanding, and it could be wrong, is that Kissinger, the Rockefellers and gang (I have some inside information about their operations, and I am not too impressed) do not operate at the highest levels. Those that do, you have never heard of. When my pal got his show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

he did not even know who gave it to him. About engineered disasters and the like, or what is happening at the high levels, I am not privy to any of it. I will stay tuned to what Fulford is doing, but it will be from a distance. I would imagine, however, that Fulford’s message is not for them, but for the public. The Big Boys do not need to get it through public channels. I keep my head down and do what I do, and try to not get too distracted by those battles, if they are indeed battles. I’ll take the Muppet Movie ending, and maybe there is one coming soon, and maybe not. I try to not play spectator for that stuff, but do what I can to help raise awareness.

Best,

Wade

Hi Wade,

Fulfords very open claim regarding FE is fascinating - could there have been a serious attempt by the Japanese to break ranks and launch products onto the market that were FE or close to FE or even disguised in some way within say car battery fuels cells?

I do not wish you to enter wild speculation unnecessarily so please feel free to skip over and I too will simply try and raise awareness and hold the abundance vision.

However the mention of other secret societies and triads etc. uprising and involvement in bringing about FE concerns me and brings me back to my point about integrity and the transition process at some point in the future for FE implementation - I have long thought that Western "civilisation" should learn from the various indigenous peoples of the world and I was fascinated the other day with your comparison of Western peoples versus North American native outlook/perspectives - could it be possible that indigenous people could one day help with the FE transition process?

Here is a link to a site in development that I have been following with interest over the last few months which has a great intention and heart felt message http://www.thegreatgathering.org/ - it simply mentions alternative energy sources at present but perhaps their abilities to hold a vision with the upmost integrity is worth considering to try? The site is still under development and plans for gatherings still appear to be unfolding and I will keep an eye on it over the course of the year.

Best Wishes, Steven

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Steven:

There appear to be several Fulford threads. Is there one devoted to who he is and how legit his information is? I think I mentioned it in this thread already, but Brian O and I are rather unusual Camelot witnesses in that we are not “insiders,” and our primary orientation is not information gleaned from channelings, meeting with ETs, and so on. Brian is a scientist and I am a businessman. When I look at Fulford’s site and his posts (at least the excerpts that you can see for free), every single post is based on some insider information that he has, that is not something that any of us can easily verify, if at all. We basically need to take his word for it. I understand the problems of taking people’s word for something. I am asking people to take my word that a pal told me that he got an underground FE technology show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

That a voice in my head guided my journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

(a voice that I do not want to hear from anymore, not if it has more journeys like that in mind), and a few other events of a personal nature. However, while those are key parts of my story, they are really small parts. The vast majority of my work is oriented around information that people can verify for themselves (hence, all the notes to my essays). You really do not have to take my word for much. And even the personal anecdotes, such as the underground show, I pretty much tell in a context of how it relates to other information. For instance, the underground show that my friend allegedly received (If your mother told you that she had an experience like that, would you believe her? I would believe that friend over my mother, by the way.) aligns perfectly with what Greer’s Disclosure Project witnesses have described over the years, and my friend does not even believe in ETs and UFOs.

However, my journey, especially with Dennis, is richly documented. I post several key documents on my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

Dennis has written two books from his jail and prison cells, the second one in particular (The Alternative) being richly documented, especially regarding what happened in Ventura. There is a mountain of documentation and information regarding my journey. Also, anybody who does that digging will find that I am only telling a small fraction of my story on my site. So, it is pretty easy for a reader to establish my credibility. Also, I take on my (and Dennis’s) detractors, and dismantle the Big Lies that they tell:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

The crazy part is that the liars have public credibility, with Mr. Skeptic being featured on several national TV shows about Dennis as he spews his disinformation. We live in a strange world.

Anyway, I am wary of the claims of the Camelot witnesses, and when their information is pretty much all first-person, and there is almost no way to verify any of it, I think that skepticism is the best approach. Not the dishonest “skepticism” that is the hallmark of organized skepticism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

but just taking what they say with a grain of salt, do your homework to validate whatever you can of it, and then digest it to see what it fits with. There is a lot of disinformation out there. Some, like what Mr. Skeptic provides, is probably professional disinformation. Other disinformation is more free-lance, by people seeking attention. Also, any insider going public needs to be seriously questioned. Some are definitely playing “whistleblower” as part of their job duties. Others may be well-meaning, but have been subtly fed disinformation, and so on. The whistleblowers that I respect the most have been people like Ralph McGehee:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

Rodney Stich:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#stich

and the few others like them, those overgrown Boy Scouts who could not keep quiet when they learned how fraudulent our system is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

When somebody like Gary Wean provided inside information on the JFK hit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

I did about ten thousand pages of reading over ten years, and other evidence-kicking, before I had anything public to say about it, when no piece of evidence that I could find really contradicted Gary’s story, and when evidence kept coming to light that confirmed it. If I can’t kick the evidence that hard, I generally will not present the information on my site. In the end, insider information is a poor guide to taking action, because you are taking somebody else’s word for what is happening, in a vacuum of verifying evidence. Again, I do not like playing the secrecy game. Some is unavoidable when you play at these levels. Virtually all of my “secrecy” is to protect others who would rather not have their name associated with what I am doing, and I understand – many have already suffered greatly for their participation and do not want any more attention from the public or others – but I avoid it whenever possible.

Enough said; now I will try to finish my latest visions piece for Ilie.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

OK Steven:

One more post before I get Ilie’s vision post done. The Global Controllers are truly GLOBAL CONTROLLERS. There is no place on Earth beyond their reach, especially in the public. You cannot sneak past them, pull an end run by hiding it in batteries, and so on. Such tactics are not only doomed from a standpoint of thinking that you can run below their radar, but you defeat yourself when playing those games. The Secrecy Game is not going to get us there, if for no other reason than it does not align with the world that we are aiming for; the means become the ends.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

On Japan, Bearden says that one of the very groups that Fulford is aligned with, the Yakuza, are one of the key groups that suppress free energy. Bearden’s opinion on that situation also neatly fits with my previous post about credibility. I have seen people in the field, some close to me, suspect that Dennis, Greer and Bearden are not who they appear to be, but are acting on behalf of the Global Controllers, leading people away from the free energy possibility. Well, I know it is not the case with Dennis, and I have had to consider it with Greer and Bearden. Bearden definitely makes some of the strangest claims in the FE field, and his explanation of FE physics is definitely flawed. Whether that is due to him intentionally misdirecting people or not being able to say all he knows, or he really does not know what he is writing about, I am not sure. But, Sparky Sweet was the first FE inventor that Bearden ever met with the goods, and you can read Bearden’s writings about Sparky:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

If I did not know two other scientists who knew Sparky and witnessed and studied his technology, I would have perhaps been more skeptical of Bearden’s claims about Sparky’s technology, but it was real. I will never forget the awe in one of our scientist’s voice as he described watching Sparky’s device go into overdrive as ice formed on it. And in 1998, I heard Bearden describe how the Global Controllers almost nabbed him in a sting operation, as part of their game theory tactics:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden

Ten years after I heard Bearden tell his story, I realized that we were being set up by almost the identical operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting

So, for all that Tom may have gotten incorrect in his FE physics, and for all the accusations that I have seen fly at him over the years, that old man has my respect.

Again, navigating all of that is not for the timid, for quick-study artists or the unwary, but, again, I doubt that sneaking past them will work, on a number of levels, the most important being that adopting sneaky tactics is self-defeating, no matter how worthy you may think the cause is.

Now, I am off to Ilie’s post. :)

Best,

Wade

P.S. I am familiar with Miriam’s work. It has some potential, I think.

[Wade Frazier]

A Little Vision

It was a sunny day when the friends converged on the city. If the weather had been inclement, they would not have suffered, not with all of their equipment at hand, but they preferred to perform those particular efforts on sunny days. The abandoned city was one of the few in North America that had yet to be reclaimed. The urban reclamation projects had already turned most cities back to the land’s natural state. When people left the cities for the new ways of living that free energy and its related technologies made possible, about the only items that people brought along had historic, artistic or sentimental value. The rest were either recycled into their elements and formed into rocks (usually placed on ocean floors – they might be reclaimed one day, if needed), or added to the element banks that dotted the planet. The recycling machines would arrive at this abandoned city in a few weeks, after they finished turning a city a few hundred kilometers away back into a natural environment, with the beginnings of a forest reestablished, with the river running through the city remediated back to its natural state. But today, the friends would continue their research into this relic of the past, where millions of people from the Scarcity Epoch lived and died. The friends did it from interest and to contribute to humanity’s store of information about that era, and one of them recalled a past life where she lived in that city.

Madele was of African ancestry and lived in Northeast Asia, in what was formerly called Siberia. She generally only lived there during the summer months, but would sometimes visit in winter, and she once spent a winter season living on the shrinking Antarctic icepack. In the lifetime she recalled, she was male and was a factory manager who lived in a small portion of a building known as an apartment complex. Such crowded living conditions were typical during the Scarcity Epoch, and Madele wanted to visit that city before it was removed, to gain greater understanding of those times and the lives such people led. Madele’s friends mostly lived on Earth, but one, Gorwin, came from his dwelling on Mars that day. Gorwin’s journey was a little longer than the few minutes that the others took to arrive at that abandoned city. Since Gorwin was a little further from home, he brought his day-habitat with him, which provided for all of his creature needs. The friends could use his facility if they needed to, but since all were only a few minutes from their dwellings, they only came in their personal craft.

That excursion was planned a few weeks earlier, when Madele recalled her past life in that city and realized that it would soon be gone. She communicated to her friends via the Connector, although for one of her friends, Axly, she only had to think her invitation toward him, because he no longer needed technology to communicate. The common understanding was that people like Axly had merely regained abilities that humanity once possessed long ago. Eventually, humanity might not need any technology, but that possibility was in the distant future and nobody was in a hurry to get there. The pleasure would be in the journey, but everybody realized that such a state was probably ahead for humanity.

The city had a large plaza near its center, and that is where the eight friends arranged to meet. Madele had a strong sense of where she lived in her earlier incarnation, and flew over it on her way to the plaza. The apartment complex was unexpectedly still there. While she could have landed there, she wanted to walk through the abandoned city and pick up its impressions, particularly those from that prior lifetime. She wanted to take that walk alone, and she would notify her friends when she arrived at the apartment. Then they would all come to experience the impressions with her. Axly was particularly helpful in enhancing the experience, bringing in impressions and memories that relatively few could access, although everybody possessed that ability to some degree.

After they met at the plaza, the others left, some on foot, and some in their craft, to explore, acquire evidence and gain their own sense of what the city was once like. All had toured the city over its lifetime in their simulators, but there was no substitute for being there, even if it was in a different timeframe.

As Madele walked through the quiet city, with the forest and its denizens already beginning to reclaim it, she received rich impressions of what the lives of its inhabitants were like. Everybody realized that it was important work, to keep those memories alive. As she received impressions, they were those that typically accompanied such excursions. In cities, a particular stress and anxiety permeated the lives of its inhabitants, a kind that no longer existed on Earth. For all the incredible crowding that attended the lives of those city inhabitants, there was also a great sense of loneliness. While other eras of the Scarcity Epoch did not have cities, or most people did not live in them, the continual reality of scarcity defined everybody’s existences in ways that were challenging to comprehend. While on a mental level, the people of Madele’s lifetime eventually understood the dynamics of the Scarcity Epoch, when people like Madele recalled lives from that epoch, and were fortunate enough to find the physical location in something close to the state of that epoch, it was an opportunity not to be missed. When Madele finished her exploration on that day, her impressions would be given to the Memory Bank, and the emotional memories would be the most valuable gift that the day would bring.

It took an hour for Madele to walk to that apartment complex. Somewhat surprisingly, the complex was not only close to how she recalled it, when she entered the apartment from her previous lifetime, it looked remarkably familiar. The furniture and plumbing were a little different, of what had not been removed during the years of urban exodus, when cities largely became obsolete. Madele used her communicator (she could hold hers, while others had implants, and people like Axly dispensed with them altogether), and in a few minutes the friends had assembled. They all deployed their chairs and sat in a circle in the apartment’s living room and achieved their inward state, while Axly led the group into the memories of that apartment’s inhabitants. The memories washed over the group, and after a few minutes, they all became aware of Madele’s lifetime. Madele then explored that lifetime’s memories more deeply. Being there, and with the help of her friends, took Madele deeply into that lifetime, far deeper than she could achieve on her own. Her friends would not recall the thoughts and emotions to the level that Madele was experiencing, but it was close.

Madele’s soul took the name of Frank in that lifetime. Frank was not born in that city, but migrated there in his childhood. He lived during the era when people in that region traveled by what was called an automobile, which was a machine that could not fly, burned mined hydrocarbons as fuel, and had hydrocarbon wheels. Frank lived in an imperial nation which was the richest that humanity had experienced in that epoch. When compared to the technologically advanced civilizations that preceded the Scarcity Epoch, that nation was primitive in many ways, but it was considered the pinnacle of economic, technical and cultural achievement in that epoch, and that was another reason why Madele’s visit was rather important – not many recalled their existences in that society.

That nation prided itself on its freedoms, but as Madele and the others experienced Frank’s memories, what was striking was how constrained Frank’s life really was. Frank, for all the conditioning from his society on how free, rich and powerful his society was, lived in almost constant fear. It was not a terror-filled fear, but was rather like a constant, background hum that dominated his subconscious thoughts. Those fears would become more conscious as Frank traveled through the city and encountered people who lived on the streets with no shelter. The friends had awareness of that situation, where that epoch’s richest and most powerful nation could not provide millions of its citizens shelter from the elements, and many of them were continually hungry. When Frank encountered those people, his conscious thoughts usually ignored them or justified their impoverished state, but at a subconscious level, Frank knew that he might well join those people on the streets one day, if his utility to the empire ceased.

Frank did not always live in that apartment, but lived in it before he mated and had offspring. What they called a nuclear family in that epoch was also very difficult to understand, with social and emotional dynamics that were relics of that era as much as those automobiles were. Frank eventually lived on that city’s edge, in a sea of individual dwellings that were removed long ago. But being in that physical apartment enhanced access to all of Frank’s memories. Frank had joys in his life, joys that mating and rearing offspring provided him. He never lost his dwelling or was forced to live in the elements, but that fear was with him until the day he died, in a medical facility, surrounded by his family.

The friends experienced Frank’s memories for a couple of hours and surveyed his childhood, early adulthood, mating and childrearing years, and his slow decline into old age. In many ways, it was completely alien to what the friends experienced in their daily lives, but each knew that they lived similar lives during their souls’ journeys, and that lives like Frank’s were important learning experiences for their souls, however fearful such existences were. A primary reason for visiting lifetimes like Frank’s was to recall what nearly constant fear was like.

After a couple of hours, the friends finished viewing Frank’s life. Madele had received a great gift that was shared with her friends. Those memories of Frank’s would now stay with her more than most of her other prior life memories. The friends shared their love for each other and departed to their dwellings, except for Gorwin, who would remain on Earth for a few days before returning to Mars, visiting loved ones and engaging in other activities that enriched his life and the lives of others.

During her return to her dwelling, Madele visited the Memory Bank, and in a few minutes made her contribution. That was her seventh contribution to that bank. Axly recently recalled a lifetime as a non-humanoid life form on a planet in a distant star system, one that humans rarely visited. Those eight friends, plus a few others, were planning to visit that planet the next month and experience the memories of that lifetime with Axly. That would be a special occasion. For those kinds of memory retrievals, not only would Axly make a contribution to humanity’s Memory Bank on Earth, but he would also visit the Memory Bank on another arm of their galaxy. Sometimes, the Memory Bank at the Galactic Core would request those memories, too. Axly visited there once to contribute his memories. It was quite a journey, lasting the better part of a year, but that was largely because he took the scenic route with a few of his friends, visiting many of the marvels that their galaxy was known for.


OK, I am going to try to go quiet for now and work on my energy essay. April is also a hurricane month at my day job. Ilie, parts of that vision have been in my head for quite some time, and some I have written about before. I think that I am out of my immediate inventory of visions, so next month’s will probably be new material. I’ll see what comes up. It will probably be posted in the last half of April.

Best wishes,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Thank you Wade!

I enjoyed your post thoroughly! I believe that such "visions" help us imagine the "un-imaginable", they give our own creativity a gentle push in the right direction! (this is why I've always appreciated fiction writers)

I must say I share Frank's subconscious fear :). I was not aware of that until I read your post. Hm...

[Wade Frazier]

OK Ilie:

You spurred me to write one more post….

As is stated in the introduction to my recent interviews, I was raised to be a scientist,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

The family library was in my bedroom for years, and I amused myself each night by reading the encyclopedia before sleeping. By the time I was about eleven, I had exhausted my school’s library on paleontology. I did not read fiction. I did not “get it.” Then, soon after I turned fourteen, my father, for the first time in my life (he only did it twice, the other time was for Bach’s Illusions)), handed me a book and said, “Read this.” It was The Hobbit. By the time I was seventeen, I was writing my own science fiction stories (it might show :) ).

My site is obviously non-fiction (although some would tell you differently :)), but I reward the finishing of a tough bit of research or the publication of one of my essays with reading epic fantasy, which is my favorite genre. Science fiction is also up there with me.

Einstein said that imagination is more important than knowledge,

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/703.html

and I understand. That is a big reason why I say that all I am trying to do is make free energy thinkable, and I mean it. If we can’t even imagine it, we probably are not going to get there, except by accident, and with all the forces arrayed against us getting there, the prison that we live in would be pretty inescapable.

Best,

Wade

[steven69]

Hi Wade,

Thanks for that wonderfully creative vision - some lovely ideas in there which I reflect on tonight and try and get my creative juices flowing. It is amazing to reflect just how our daily lives can dry up those juices which come so naturally to us as children!

Some of your ideas such as the rich impression and memories were simply delightful and like Ilie mentioned it is amazing to think just how Frank's fear "like a constant, background hum that dominated his subconscious thoughts" can be so dominating in todays society without us realising it.

Last night I tried to imagine the impact of the abundance vision for Indian slums after watching a documentary which had inspired me http://www.archive.org/details/SlummingItMcCloud to consider a slum rather than a city. I had imagined how FE could alleviate the sanitary conditions and power for cooking and work in the first instance in a transition phase whilst trying not to lose the sense of community cohesion and vibrancy of the human spirit so evident and something I too have witnessed on the streets of India.

Best Wishes, Steven

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Wade and like-minded friends,

Funny, the book Illusions by Richard Bach, is also a book I was referred to by a spiritual mentor! It caused quite a bit of turmoil in my life until I finally left the idea of "little miracles" behind as outdated and naive. It was too small-thinking, if you know what I mean. With such powers comes much larger issues that must be addressed in order to not be bogged down by one's own limited prowess. My short story called, The Little Blue Feather, talks a bit about my experiences. Suffice it to say that it altered my world view exponentially very quickly and my experiential understandings and motivations are still trying to catch up years later.
Ultimately, trying to manifest a blue feather is like attempting to construct a working Free Energy device. Such a prototype is virtually useless and certainly dangerous without the paradigm expanding understanding that underides its workings. It is the science of FE that is all-important for it points to and paints a picture of a world few can truly imagine today.
Peace

[Wade Frazier]

OK, I have a little time, but my hurricane at work has already begun.

Hi Steven:

I present a progression of changes in an essay from about ten years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#short

When I revise it, it will have some more on the social aspects. People eking out a life in a slum, or even making it better, says something about the human spirit and how we can adapt to almost any condition. However, social cohesion that is a product of poverty and crowding is vastly inferior to social cohesion because that is what people consciously choose. I work with people from India every day. The ones in the USA are from the Brahmin caste. India has been the scene of foreign invasions that imposed hierarchical political/economic/social structures on them, from the Aryan invasion to the Muslim invasion to the British invasion.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#bengal

India has had a rough ride. India would be one of the greatest beneficiaries of free energy. Again, many of the social, political and economic structures that we take for granted today, and call “human nature,” would quickly disappear under a free energy paradigm. High birthrates are a product of poverty and ignorance. Steep political, economic and social hierarchies would simply disappear. Hierarchies did not exist before the Domestication Revolution.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/timeline.htm#domestication

Hierarchies are, to a great degree, conditioned by economic scarcity, which is in turn due to energy scarcity.

Hi Ernie:

Boy, you could really get me going with that post. I thought about writing a ten-pager, but not this morning. Bach and Seth were two of my most important early mystical influences, and they knew each other:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#bach

While Seth has held up well with me, I find myself not being able to get through Bach books anymore. Bach lives near me (the Pacific Northwest is the last refuge of the Romantics, with many fantasy authors living up here), and in one of his books, he writes about paragliding off the mountain which is my primary hiking mountain.

http://www.issaquahpress.com/2009/09/01/poo-poo-point-a-destination-to-enjoy-the-view/

http://www.niffgurd.com/mark/hikes/2004/june/12th/content.html

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=ad216c90-adf8-428c-a8e7-99e2103fcab9

I was raised in Southern California and had my mystical awakening at age 16, so I just about saw it all by the time I left for good in 1990, at age 32. Yes, all of that “manifesting” a parking space or a blue feather or a hole in the clouds (I have done that) are baby steps on the path. Somebody makes that bike that “appeared” by magic in The Secret:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

Yes, that whole scene can be pretty grotesque, with its New Age harems:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

hucksterism and so on. What I eventually realized, whether it was Jane Roberts threatening another Seth channel, or the original Michael channels playing blueblood, or all the New Age hucksterism, or getting the free energy snuff job, or the imperial oil invasions and genocides (next up for our entertainment is Libya, while the shows in Iraq and Afghanistan are still playing), or seeing all the slums across the world, economic scarcity defines their dimensions, which is in turn defined by energy scarcity. I have really never seen a significant exception to that dynamic.

Yes, the problem is not technology. It really is not even the science of free energy, either. Our problems are, at root, of the human heart. It is one heck of a conundrum, however. There is a dialectic between human awareness and our economic condition:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

Marx said that the dominant ideologies of all societies were the ideologies of their ruling classes, which primarily justified the ruling classes’ status, and was founded on their economic reality. I probably cannot put it any more succinctly than that. The materialism of the Marxists, and the structuralism of the “radical” left:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

cripples their vision and makes them ineffective, for all of their keen insights. I do not know of a tougher nut to crack than the free energy nut. God, just yesterday, a high profile pal informed me of one of the latest free energy aspirants. Some scientists that are trying to make a FE device (cold fusion, this time) for the home size, but are keeping key components “secret” that only their dealer network can maintain, and so on. Man, been there, done that! Unless the game at the top has changed radically, they do not have a prayer. Again, it is the scarcity game, even when they are trying to bring free energy to the world. Our scarcity-based conditioning is deep, as Fuller noted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#scarcity

Gotta go to work now.

Best,

Wade

[steven69]

Hi Wade,

I agree India has had a really rough ride in the past and your summary of its history of brutal resource rapes and famines is confronting at times but very informative and highlights the worst outcomes of the deliberate scarity paradigm. As a British citizen I was aware of most of the shamefully things that were done as Imperialists but the weavers thumbs really made my winch!

On a lighter side - In your site time line http://www.ahealedplanet.net/timeline.htm#domestication I stumbled across this:

1 million BC - First motion picture, starring Raquel Welch - one of your favourite films? and/or just a test to see if anyone reads your tables?

Best Wishes, Steven

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Steven:

I have a minute. On India, yes, it is "confronting," and intended to be so. It is not intended to be some kind of "history" that professional historians produce, although I pretty much just stick to the facts. It is aimed at my "peers" so that they may be able to relinquish their imperial conceits. The same conceits have led to invading Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya. I am an American, but there is great Anglo-philia in the USA. Heck, the upcoming royal wedding is a bigger deal in the USA than it is in Britain. That "confrontation" is also aimed at other members of the British diaspora, if I can use that term.

On the 1M BC, that is just an example of my wry sense of humor. I sprinkled it into my earlier work a bit. I do not do it as much anymore, but some of my pals almost fell over laughing when they got to 1M BC. Even if I redo my site one day, I really want to leave in that 1M BC part. :)

At Avalon, I can indulge my sense of humor a bit more. As a for instance, with the British and Afghanistan, I wonder if during the 2001 invasion the British soldiers said something like, "We're baaaaaack." On the British imperial conceits, a recent instance is the movie that won the Academy Award for best picture for its stuttering king. It began with "ruled over a quarter of humanity" or some such statement. As Churchill said:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#churchill

it is not like that quarter of humanity was a bunch of loyal subjects. The movie framed it as the noble king, who did not want the job, standing up to that evil Nazi machine. For somebody who has studied those subjects plenty, the Brits do not exactly get any hero points.

My Columbus essay

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm

has been used in college classes since 2001 or so, and one professor who uses that essay had some exchanges with me several years ago. He said that he suspected that I was a self-taught historian, because a professionally-trained historian would not have written something like that, but would have done it in the liberal historian style, treating those events with some kind of equanimity, playing disinterested observer. Well, that is not what I am doing. I lived in Columbus, and I have a close relative who is directly descended from him. I am exploding the myths that gird the imperial conceits that allow my Great Nation (with little buddy Great Britain carrying our bags) to invade other nations at will, for completely self-serving reasons, while conjuring selfless rhetoric that a five-year-old could see through.

I do not have much respect for professional historians, as far as their product when serving the interests of power.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity

I don't write the way that I do on the subjects that I do to wake up Rush Limbaugh fans. I do it to help those who want to comprehend an abundance-based paradigm do so, because they can't comprehend it while they are carrying around all that scarcity-based, egocentric baggage.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

When we call the darkness the light:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bitter

we have our heads screwed on backwards.

For those who already understand, there really is no need to read my Columbus essay, my American Empire essay, etc., unless they just want to get their facts straight, or understand what my game is and where I am coming from. I seek to reach the awake and the awakening, and let the sleepy ones sleep.

Best,

Wade

[filsmyth]

I have to insert this, at this moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSh2XeLY7YE

[filsmyth]

There was a hope in the late 1960s that carried into the early 1970s -- but the proclamation that "This is the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius" was ~40 years too early.

As Bob Dean brought to our attention, 'apocalypse' is just a Greek word for 'great revealing'.

Welcome to the Apocalypse.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Fil:

That Rush song came out when I was in college. I have their Rio concert on DVD. They were big back then. Limelight is the song that I play more than any others of theirs. We will see what is revealed up ahead. A lot under wraps, that is for sure, but I think that most of really important stuff is pretty obvious, or can be ascertained without much effort (unless you want an underground exotic technology show! :) ).

Enjoy the spring,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Events in the past few weeks have pretty much turned my year upside-down. I am not sure when I can recover and get that energy essay finished. Although my year is going to be a crazy one, I have given my future efforts more thought, and am more committed to trying out what I originally intended, which is to initiate an invitation-only forum to help people think comprehensively and begin a conversation that the public can also benefit from digesting. I may do it in an Avalon sub-forum. Time will tell. I may also do it in more than one forum. The general parameters will be as outlined below.

1. The participants will use their real names (it is a minimum level of courage that I will require of all participants, because I am trying to help inspire people’s courage).

2. The subject matter will be healing humanity and the planet.

3. It will necessarily be a comprehensive conversation.

4. My perspective is that energy is the root of life on earth and everything flowers from that. That is not just my opinion, but after long study of evolution, molecular biology and other scientific topics, energy is obviously the coin of exchange for all life forms; how they acquire it, how they preserve it, how they use it, and how they avoid becoming an energy source for another life form is the framework for all scientific inquiry into life and ecosystems.

5. The human journey is also one of acquiring, preserving and using energy; no serious inquiry into the human journey does not have that at its center, although it continues to amaze me that what are obviously energy-related activities get clothed in all manner of camouflage, calling it something other than it is. All economic systems for all time, from our protohuman ancestors leaving the trees to today’s invasion of Libya, to the unfolding catastrophe in Japan or last year’s (and continuing) catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico, are centered on how humanity gets it energy, and who gets it and who does not. In a scarcity-based system, who gets what is the overriding concern. In an abundance-based one, it does not matter.

6. My understanding, and the understanding of mystics and other sources that I respect is that love is the energy of creation; saying that it is all about love, or saying that it is all about energy, are two ways of stating the same thing. Only a loving approach has a prayer, in my opinion, and that will always guide my efforts.

7. By comprehensive, I mean that the subject matter will cover history, economics, politics, various scientific topics (thermodynamics, chemistry, evolution, molecular biology, anthropology (physical and cultural) and medicine), spirituality, media, and other topics. They will be covered insofar as they relate to the comprehensive whole. The tendency is for people to deny or fixate on aspects of it (such as organized suppression, or the financial system, and so on), which are all fear reactions. A loving perspective will acknowledge those aspects, but also give them their proportional importance. In the big picture, organized suppression and the antics of the Global Controllers, or the machinations in the financial system, are not really important. Only because humanity sleeps and has given away its collective responsibility do the Global Controllers even exist. With an awakened humanity, their games would no longer work. Awakening and achieving that perspective, however, is one of the most difficult tasks on Earth today, and the situation is a conundrum like no other that I know of.

8. Of course, my participation will be far more than just proposing some new theory. I have been in the energy trenches like few others have, and learned more than I ever hoped to (and probably wanted to), and what I learned during my adventures will always be the center-of-gravity of my participation.

9. I am going to try to raise my game (I can do a lot better than my posts to this thread so far, and look forward to the challenge, but I also need to be sheltered from all the people who try dragging the conversation into their agendas, as impatience is my chief feature http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading , and it has been tested plenty in this thread, and I have failed regularly – I need help to raise the conversation where I think it needs to go to become productive, and the ground rules that I am going to set are intended so that we can reach where I hope we can go), and I am going to ask the participants to raise theirs, also.

In short, I am looking for level 12s, or those who want to try to reach it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

I am not kidding myself; level 12s, or those who can become one in today’s environment, are like needles in haystacks, at somewhere around one-in-a-thousand in the general population, if that. But for people in other levels who have their hearts in the right place and want to try, I am willing to help them get there. I have experienced many, many people living in those other levels, and my game is amassing enough level 12s so that maybe it can help raise the general awareness and form a nugget of heart-centered sentience that might be able to make a difference. Exactly how that theoretical nugget can make a difference, I am not entirely sure, although I have some ideas. What I am sure of, however, is that nugget has never existed on the planet before. Becoming a level 12 is like walking the razor’s edge. Few in today’s free energy activist ranks live there, with most stuck in levels 7, 9 and 10 (and many join levels 5, 8 and 13 after being in the field for a while). I have only met a few 12s in my lifetime. That is part of the problem. I know some who would like to try the level 12 approach, but because it is such a desert out there that they try out levels 7, 8 and 10. Nobody has come close to the finish line yet.

I still plan to remain pretty quiet in this forum until I get that energy essay finished. Ilie, one of the bombs that got dropped on me will see April being a nightmare month, so I am not sure that I can get another installment of the “visions” series done in April. We will see how it goes.

For those new to the thread, here are my previous visions posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=97564&viewfull=1#post97564

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=114629&viewfull=1#post114629

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=180815&viewfull=1#post180815

Those are fun to write.

Best wishes to all,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wade,

Just to jog your imagination even further: I think it would be fun to write and interesting to read (even a short) dialogue between a human before free energy and one after free energy is common sense.


Of course that you should do that in your time schedule.... no pressure! :)


- Ilie

[ulli]

I'm far from level 12, although have sometimes had glimpses.
The hardest part is finding a permanent position there.
I suppose what's needed is an incredible amount of mental discipline
and then to keep one's eye (I) on one's emotional equilibrium.
Another trick is constant sorting of priorities:
the Important must give way to The Most Important,
in order to maintain that comprehensive overview.

I wish you protection from the highest realms, Wade.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

That vision that you suggest is a good one, and kind of like what I did in my previous vision post, although more peering in than a dialogue. That might be my next topic. If not, it will be in the backlog. :)

Hi Ulli:

That was a very perceptive post. I have found that the hard part is getting there, but you may be right. I think that it is natural to explore the other levels. I do not advocate a level 12 approach just because it may be less risky or is "prettier," but because it just might be the only one that will work. The means become the ends.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

All the others have been tried, many times, and all went down in spectacular flames. As far as I know, nobody has tried a level 12 approach before.

As I stated earlier in the thread, my progression was 0, 10, 12, but my circumstances were rather extraordinary. My fellow travelers in the FE field took diverse paths. For those who have been in the field for a while and did something, I generally see them scattered across levels 7 to 10. A few have reached level 12, but it is only a few so far. There are plenty of level 13 casualties, too. In fact, those with the goods (who usually took the inventor route) usually end up as level 13s. If they survive the experience, they often become level 8s, and I sympathize.

On the "discipline" part, that is an interesting word. To invoke Richard Bach on this thread again, he said that when he was tightening a bolt on the wing of his biplane, he did not think of it as work, but something that he needed to do. If you have a love of the truth and enough youth/naïveté/foolishness/ etc., a path like mine can be taken, and while it certainly was not a barrel of laughs, it would probably take more "discipline" for me to turn my back on it all than it would be to devote my life to it.

That might be the overgrown Boy Scout effect:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

but I am not sure.

Usually, what it looks like from the outside is that people like us are obsessed. Back in the early days of Dennis's journey, many years before he even thought about FE, he likened his demeanor to that Richard Dreyfuss character in Close Encounters building that Devil's Stump model in his kitchen.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xZJJnE--nE8/S8UCuN8FgSI/AAAAAAAAAxM/lrAtKfpeRuc/s1600/dreyfuss2.jpg

There are people who would describe my focus similarly. But when you are pursing the biggest epochal change in the history of your species, a lot about it can appear extreme, although it just seems to come with the territory. I am not into suffering, although others might disagree (long fasts, living in relative privation for years, hiking with 50 pounds on my back, and so on). I will invoke Seth here. He once said that the purpose of suffering was to learn how to avoid suffering. :) Pain is a feedback mechanism intended for the good of the organism. Humanity is feeling a lot of pain right now….

On the emotional equilibrium, at least in today's world, I think that you are right, partly because anybody walking the FE razor's edge will be opposed from almost all sides because this world is addicted to scarcity and abundance means the end of the game. The masses think that it means the end of their existence, but it is probably more like a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, to steal from Bach again. It is not easy to maintain the required equilibrium in the face of the endless attacks. I went quiet for years during the worst years of my midlife crisis.

Yes, on maintaining the mental focus on what is important, that is pretty much the intention of my upcoming essay. Many people are well-intended but have no idea how the world really works, from a nuts-and-bolts perspective. Energy runs the show on Earth and always has and always will. Scientists quickly understand that the human journey rides atop the energy situation, but the average American putting gasoline in his car's tank has no idea of the magnitude of the energy that he just put into the tank (nearly a year's worth of calories to fuel his body), and has only a faint idea of where the oil came from and how his entire existence revolves around the energy situation. Seattle gets storms periodically that take out the electric grid for days, and people then realize real quickly how dependent we are on energy, but what is happening to Tokyo is capturing the attention of the entire industrialized world, and seeing Tokyo go dark is a sobering moment and an opportunity for awakening, to some degree. It is really bizarre, but I have never seen nuclear energy touted more fiercely and broadly than is happening right now. Crazy. Yes, if humanity does not solve the energy situation, and soon (again it is not an issue of technology, because the technology has long existed, but it is a political/economic/social/spiritual situation, which few people seem able or willing to comprehend), the rest will not matter.

Thank you for your blessing; I happily accept it.

Best wishes,

Wade

[ulli]

I don't know if you ever read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand; the last time I even mentioned her name I was in trouble.
But whatever other associations people have with her- that book to me summed it up....if you want to develop FE you need stealth.
The way the world is now it would be too risky, as Dennis' and your own life have amply demonstrated.
Too many predators or bullies, who have gotten away with murder too many times. A society where those kinds of people were the needle in a haystack would be quite manageable...unfortunately it is the other way 'round.
But perhaps it's only a matter of waiting for the right generation to come along...a generation of people who are born with full past life memories intact, and who KNOW about what's possible and understand all cosmic laws intuitively.

Just as an enlightened person can draw energy from an inner cornucopia, which gives a never-ending supply, so I imagine FE to work.
Did you ever meet Nick Cook, author of "The Hunt for Point Zero"?

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wade,

Is not my idea really :). I got it from a Startrek episode I have seen recently when they find frozen people from 21st century. After they revive them there is clash, because the "old people" demand access to their money and their possessions. While watching I thought to my self: Wade would have quickly pointed out that in an age of unlimited energy such things are no longer important. So I got curious how would you have written the dialogue for that particular episode :)

I wish you well,

- Ilie

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

I have Atlas Shrugged in my stack, and have for fifteen years or so. I have read some of Rand's stuff, but was not very impressed. And with people like Greenspan being an acolyte (the Fed being kind of the economic counterpart of the neocons), I don't know about her. Dennis was a fan, I think because of the energy theme, but from what I understand, Atlas Shrugged is a romantic capitalistic tale (the hyper-capitalists are part of the problem, not the solution – offering us a billion dollars to go away, and they have paid out more than $100 billion in quiet money so far, is capitalism on steroids). This I know for sure: there is no way that anybody on Earth can sneak up on them, and anybody who thinks they can simply has no experience in the field. As I said in my recent interview,

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#g/c/BACC03E294B890CD

playing the secrecy game defeats you before you begin. It encourages paranoia, "specialness," and a host of problems, even leaving aside the fact that the very interests that you think you are hiding from know your every move. The secrecy game is a loser, especially in this field.

I hear you loud and clear on the odds against the lamb's path to FE, but that is the one I am on. The odds against any path are ridiculously slim. Yes, the jungle is filled with predators, and the lower level ones take out most aspirants before Godzilla even needs to get out of bed. However, the problem with the Young Warrior types, and I have seen plenty of them, is that when they show up with their weaponry and eagerness, wanting to help you "take on the bad guys," (for either offense or defense) it is almost certain that the only blood that they are going to spill is yours. I watched many rounds of that one play out long ago, to realize what a delusion that was, to think that the Young Warrior way had a prayer.

Unfortunately, I know more about the cloak-and-dagger game than is probably healthy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

I am seeking an enlightened path to FE, and it can also be considered foolish, but it has also never really been tried, not the way that I am planning to go about it. Maybe, one day, I will read Atlas Shrugged.

I realize that maybe I am helping to lay the groundwork for the next generation to take us over the hump, and I will not live to see them arrive. If that is my fate, I can live with it. Again, there are some very practical considerations that guide my actions. The source of the FE field is probably divine, and we may not get to regularly tap it until our motives are pure. I think that it is a key part of the conundrum. It is probably directly related to the fact that personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

With so few having the right stuff, it has been pretty easy for the Global Controllers to keep the FE genie in the bottle. This conundrum has several dimensions to it, and not all are physical plane issues, and maybe relatively few of them are. The path of the heart may be the only one with a chance, and is the only one that I really want to explore, and our actions must be aligned with that intention. If it is not, it will very likely not work. That is one reason why I say that even reaching level 12 in one's head is like walking the razor's edge, much less taking "action" from that level of understanding.

No, I do not know Cook. Ah, I just looked him up. I generally stay away from the "defense," black project side of the house, if I can. My understanding is that the black project people are a ways down the food chain, kind of low level mechanics in the Global Controller organization, and the best stuff is privatized, not controlled by any Earthly government. The FE field is really pretty small, but I am not really much of a part of it anymore.

Thanks,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Wade

Ah, Ilie, I know the episode well (we have the entire Next Gen and DS9 series at home on DVD, and we bought those at my wife's insistence, not mine, believe it or not). Yes, the first thing that corporate raider guy asked for was to talk to his broker. Priceless. It was actually the closest thing in the Star Trek series to that scenario that I present:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek

Adam Trombly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

actually gave Roddenberry the idea for that episode of that stupid species that would steal the technology of more advanced species, almost snaring a haul from the Enterprise. It was a thinly-veiled allegory of what humanity has been doing with reverse-engineering those captured ET craft.

I do not want to be accused of plagiarizing Star Trek, but I'll put something like it in the backlog.

You gave me my laugh of the day. :)

Thanks!

[ulli]

hello Wade, just to save you reading that huge novel from cover to cover...it's second protagonist is John Galt, an inventor who develops FE, and after realizing that it would be futile to market it in a corrupt society he makes society collapse, by convincing high integrity movers and shakers to abandon their companies and join him in a hidden valley where they await the world's collapse...hence Atlas Shrugged, the title...

found another summary online...anyway you will see how this story is close to home...

"The book explores a dystopian United States where leading innovators, ranging from industrialists to artists, refuse to be exploited by society. The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry (including Taggart Transcontinental, the once mighty transcontinental railroad for which she serves as the operating executive), while society's most productive citizens, led by the mysterious John Galt, progressively disappear. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the "minds" that drive society's growth and productivity. In their efforts, these "men of the mind" hope to demonstrate that a world in which the individual is not free to create is doomed, that civilization cannot exist where men are slave to society and government, and that the destruction of the profit motive leads to the collapse of society."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

You mentioned the heart approach: here is an inspiring piece of writing from the Baha'i faith, of which I was once a follower...to this day even though no longer active in the org I nevertheless get tremendous comfort reading:

"Lo, the Nightingale of Paradise singeth upon the twigs of the Tree of Eternity,
with holy and sweet melodies,
proclaiming to the sincere ones
the glad tidings of the nearness of God"....The nearness here meaning can't get any closer, neither in time nor space.

Once this is understood then the most impossible task becomes easy....

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Ulli:

I am familiar with the plot and theme. I think that Dennis has used John Galt in his public efforts (like a phone number with the name’s letters) since 1996, and I got my copy of the book from him, as he virtually campaigned on that book back then. I know that there is plenty of cerebral gestation in that book, and I like curling up with such works, and look forward to reading it one day, but I am in no rush (my “to read” stack is hundreds of books thick, literally). I like imagination, but Rand had no credentials of experience. But, the noble entrepreneurs and capitalists carrying humanity along on its creative back is quite a stretch, and to say that ending the profit motive would collapse society is the kind of romance of capitalism theme that I was aware of. Well, I do not agree with such a perspective, and I was mentored by two of the greatest creative talents of our era. I get the creativity part. The greatest enemies of the noble innovators (which are vanishingly few – I never met an altruistic inventor, but that seems to be a virtue to Rand’s way of thinking) are the masses, but only because there are so many of them. Pound-for-pound, the greatest enemies of innovation in the West are the capitalists, which even Adam Smith acknowledged:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#smith2

Rand’s faith was misplaced.

Thanks for the poem. Again, my experiences were so much larger than life that they are often dismissed as fantasy. I have not been too happy with the voice in my head for the past nine years, since it chimed in unbidden:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

but I recognize the divine intervention in springing Dennis from jail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

and other preposterous events. Part of my means-become-the-ends approach is more than just being an idealist or thinking that it is the only thing that will work. I have to live up to the charge that I was given. It is between me and my maker, or whoever sent me on this mission, if they are separate beings. I have to be able to look at myself in the mirror and I know that I won’t be able to if I use underhanded tactics in a good cause, even the seemingly “innocent” ones of sneaking up on them. No coercion, no violence, no secrecy, no deception, no crimes. I do not like to frame it in negative terms like that, but I stay away from those pitfalls whenever I can. A positive way to list it would be only honest persuasion, transparency, truth, and harmlessness. Young Warriors would be the weak links in any effort to bring FE to the world, for instance, in ways that they cannot comprehend.

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

Ayn Rand is probably best understood within the context of her childhood under communism. Also explains why the mythlogy of her novels found so much acceptance by her American Dream readership.
Regarding your statement about the greatest enemies of innovation being the capitalists, while agreeing I had an additional thought:
with global capitalism having replaced all other models of tribal life and now bringing the entire globe to the brink of mass extinction it is yet my firm belief that it is only a matter of time for the collective pendulum to come to a stop and turn back on it's path...
and this process could explain your own current stance, being the visionary that you are. A time of pausing, waiting...


No coercion, no violence, no secrecy, no deception, no crimes. I do not like to frame it in negative terms like that, but I stay away from those pitfalls whenever I can. A positive way to list it would be only honest persuasion, transparency, truth, and harmlessness.

Your statement here points to the shift between the old, defective attitudes and the new fresh ones. Anyway, in order to define more clearly the direction one needs to take in order to proceed both negative and positive terms are useful.
My mind is not as orderly as yours, (yet), but I am becoming aware that it is your painstaking approach to thinking that produces the clear vision needed to discern the path ahead.
And this is the only way one can keep an eye on ambitious impulses. In my view, ultimately the main fuel of capitalism is ambition,
and it is ambition that blocks people from discovering who they really are.

I just now realized that I was familiar with your written materials long before I joined Avalon. Several years ago I met Dr. O'Leary in person in Costa Rica, and it must have been right after that when googling his site that I first stumbled upon your site Ahealedplanet.net.
So here I find myself having come full circle, which goes to show that even an undisciplined, chaotic approach can still lead one to Rome, hehe...

While reading both Dennis and your story I was reminded of the saying:
With gold I test My servants, and with fire I test My gold.

[Tony]

Wow! have I had my head stuck in the sand!!!!!!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Thanks. I am aware of Rand’s childhood and influences (hence, the romance of capitalism). We all have them. My work is also colored by my journey. Yes, those fires burned pretty fiercely. I had enough of that kind of scorching for this lifetime, I hope. I am still kind of medium rare. Dennis is well done. I am only a semi-retired spear-carrier. I would really like to take a year off and redo my site, from ten years further down the road, but it is time that I may not get.

Welcome back to my work. Bill first encountered my work in about 2001, and that had more to do with me being a Camelot witness than my relationship with Brian did. So, readers can come and go and come back again. I am just trying to plant seeds.

Yes, the human ego is the snare, and, in a world of scarcity, the potential of FE is simply mind-boggling:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

At some level, all FE aspirants at least get of a glimpse of the ramifications, and that is often what ends up derailing many of them. The organized suppressors rarely need to lift a finger, as the efforts usually self-destruct if they actually get somewhere and are really tapping the ZPF.

Best,

Wade

Hi pie'n'eal:

Do you mean that this is the first time that you have heard of free energy? If so, know that it was not until I got to Boston:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

that I ever heard of free energy, and Dennis’s initial idea was not going to work. We all eventually wake up. If not in this lifetime, then in another. While it can be “interesting” to look back at where we were before we woke up, the important part is that we are awake (or awakening). I have found that once we truly begin to awaken, going back to sleep is not much of an option.

One of the most common reactions to encountering my work is that people can begin to glimpse what I am talking about, and awakening could be just around the corner for them, but they retreat back to sleep as fast as they can. Becoming aware in this world is not exactly an easy ride, and I can sympathize with anybody wanting to stay asleep. Hence, when I engaged the general public (Avalon is not the general public, but a pretty small and qualified subset), it was initially amazing to see all the irrational, vicious reactions to my work. My most irrational critics were my “peers” – white, educated American men:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#false

It took me a long time to realize what I was seeing with those reactions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive

So, if you think that you have not been aware in the past, the good news is that it is never too late to begin. Wanting to become aware is the key.

Best,

Wade

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Hi:

Events in the past few weeks have pretty much turned my year upside-down. I am not sure when I can recover and get that energy essay finished. Although my year is going to be a crazy one, I have given my future efforts more thought, and am more committed to trying out what I originally intended, which is to initiate an invitation-only forum to help people think comprehensively and begin a conversation that the public can also benefit from digesting. I may do it in an Avalon sub-forum. Time will tell. I may also do it in more than one forum. The general parameters will be as outlined below.

1. The participants will use their real names (it is a minimum level of courage that I will require of all participants, because I am trying to help inspire people’s courage).

2. The subject matter will be healing humanity and the planet.

3. It will necessarily be a comprehensive conversation.

4. My perspective is that energy is the root of life on earth and everything flowers from that.

5. The human journey is also one of acquiring, preserving and using energy;

6. My understanding, and the understanding of mystics and other sources that I respect is that love is the energy of creation; saying that it is all about love, or saying that it is all about energy, are two ways of stating the same thing. Only a loving approach has a prayer, in my opinion, and that will always guide my efforts.

9. I am going to try to raise my game (I can do a lot better than my posts to this thread so far, and look forward to the challenge, but I also need to be sheltered from all the people who try dragging the conversation into their agendas, as impatience is my chief feature
In short, I am looking for level 12s, or those who want to try to reach it:

Becoming a level 12 is like walking the razor’s edge.

Wade


Hi Wade, If you're serious about this and when you're ready - throw me a message, as I too have time restraints at the moment so do not check this forum regularly - but I believe we are on the same path with the same goals, have done much of the same research, so I might be helpful to you in moving your agenda forward when you are ready.

I'd like to suggest that you begin to rephrase how you feel your life is currently going as you stated in your opening remark. Learning a new way of speaking will play a role in our moving forward. And understanding energy as you do, I think you can see that saying the next year will be crazy is making the energy of that statement more concrete. While I know it is important to be realistic as opposed to playing ostrich, again, as you pointed out, it is walking the razor's edge. What if you began to rephrase and rethink this next year in a different way, one that is both realistic, but more positive. i.e.: I'll have a lot on my plate this year, but it will give me the opportunity to learn how to acknowledge the elasticity of time, which will give me plenty of time to do what is necessary. Again the intention of love as you know is an important part of this equation, also belief system.

I've had very good success with making time elastic. If you need or want info, I'd be glad to share; although what I said may be enough for you.

Barbara

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

April will be 12-14 hour days for me, on top of other fun, so I will be pretty quiet. I would like to mention one thing, however. My latest “intention” post

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=188208&viewfull=1#post188208

stirred some things up. One Avalon member in particular really “got it.” He sent me a private message, expressed his eagerness, provided me examples of his writings and even references (we have people in common). The conversation that I plan to mount will be pretty cerebral, but centered in the heart. I doubt that it will be confused with a New Age conversation. It will likely be invitation-only, or a carefully-considered application. I am not looking forward to turning applications down, but it is probably going to happen. Another pal observed yesterday that in this thread, so far, I keep repeating myself as I answer many of the same questions over and over and over (“Can we outwit them? Can we stampede past them? Can we sneak past them? Can we DIY it?” and so on). This thread is pretty much still in the starting blocks, dealing with beginner’s questions. The conversation that I have in mind I hope resembles something that Bucky might have done. My upcoming essay will, in ways, be like nothing else that I have done, but for my site’s readers, it will also have a familiar flavor. It will be the centerpiece for the conversation that I plan to mount. What I hope is that people perform their own studying on the topics broached, or have already done it and can contribute to higher levels of understanding. I expect to learn new things, too.

I am going to be aiming pretty high and I will need help, and we will see how it goes.

Best wishes,

Wade

[ulli]

The conversation that I plan to mount will be pretty cerebral, but centered in the heart. I doubt that it will be confused with a New Age conversation.

Whatever is seen is in the mind of the beholder.
I became an astrologer over 30 years ago and most of those years I spent removing the New-Age label that people tried to pin on me. Not bothering anymore. They can think whatever they want.

Beholding the cerebral-heart axis in it's totality is central to becoming cosmic and accessing unlimited energy.
This is a recent realization.
I spent years thinking my mind was the entry point of cosmic inflow but finally concluded that it is the heart.
and still debating at times whether my curious mind in it's insatiable quest for knowledge is just a bad habit to be discarded...

but how can FE ever become reality if not for the intent and the mind's step by step approach?
It's all a matter of applying "emotional intelligence" and then going for a larger group of like-hearted-like-minded until there is critical mass...
I'd be very happy to join if you feel that I might have something to contribute to your vision as well as practical agenda...

[Billy]

A healed planet thread sounds like a good place to share our new Video. I hope you don't mind Wade, Let us clean up our beautiful planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuoY3d37Bjg

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

This morning, I was asked by an activist about the potential of Brown’s Gas to help resolve the nuclear situation in Japan, and if somebody like Michio Kaku might be interested. I replied with…



Brown’s Gas is one of several radioactivity remediation technologies. But it will not work on fallout, and I do not know of anything that can. I write about Brown some in my work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

Andrew Michrowski has been involved for a long time:

http://pacenet.homestead.com/Nucwaste.html

But there are quite a few methods to neutralize radioactive waste:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/NuclearRemediation/Vesperman/index.html

Here is more information on it.

http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Brown%27s_Gas

But, the Brown’s Gas effect on radioactive material is also known as a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR), and Cold Fusion is an LENR and has been so completely ridiculed and vilified in the scientific establishment, no matter that Cold Fusion experiments have been successfully reproduced hundreds of times, that somebody like Kaku risks his standing as a scientist if he promoted something like LENR, which defies the “laws of physics.” I doubt that Kaku would want to cross that line. It is much safer playing on the “white science” side of the fence.

Also, something like Brown’s Gas will only work in a factory-like environment of working on small amounts of radioactive material at a time, and working though a spent fuel rod, for instance, over some period of time. That is obviously a far cry from the situation in Japan. Maybe some ET technology can remove fallout from the environment, but I am not privy to it, although I have heard that they have it.



As an aside, Scott is going to publish the other part of my interview with Spectrum (part 1 is here) in the near future:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#g/c/BACC03E294B890CD

and I talk a little about Yull and Brown’s Gas in that upcoming part. Some of it is kind of funny.

OK, on to the other responses on this thread since I last posted:

Hi Ulli:

I hear you on labels. On the New Age conversation, let me put it this way: fans of The Secret may not be very interested in the conversation, and I certainly do not seek them out.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

On that front, I have done tarot (Crowley deck) for more than twenty years, and it works for me, with stunning accuracy at times. I am very amateur, but have friends who vividly remember some of my readings, ten years later, for all they described and foretold, and all I can say is, “It is in the cards. I don’t know how it works.”

The heart-head thing is, as you know, is a big subject. The heart needs to lead, and the head will follow. I have heard that some people work the other way around, being head people, and their hearts follow. It could be, but, as far as I have seen, the heart is the queen, and the mind but a prince. The lower astral plane is filled with “smart” beings.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#monroe

When I finally get that effort off of the ground, you can take a look and see if it is something that you think you can contribute to, or want to.

Hi BillyJ. That video does not play, at least when I try it.

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

I don't want to clutter up this dialogue with "you are so right, Wade!" just for the sake of showing agreement and perhaps appealing to what little vanity is left in you.
This is about higher truths, and not about who pulls whom into their orbit.
But since you directed me via a link to your paragraph about your definition of New-Age and commentary on The Secret, I feel compelled to paste the paragraph in question so others may also find it. I know, I know, you may think i'm offering a short-cut. But there is a balance point between making things more obstacled or easing others along...it's that famous zero point of perfection and balance.

The emphasis you place on integrating darkness has to be highlighted here.
And it does mean there are no easy fixes, because it hurts to wake up and admit to a lifelong string of silly habits in oneself.
Each person is alone in their never-ending quest for their sovereignty, but in the end, even if not a permanent state, at least more frequent short-lived moments of a full beam of light, are attainable.
And that makes all the hardships encountered on the way worthwhile.

Please work on patience, Wade, ;) so as not to deprive the world nor your own personal contract with your Self of a break-through. I, for one, see light at the end of the tunnel.... I know I can't speak on behalf of others, but sometimes I take a wild guess.

Here is your excellent quote in full:

Wade: "The recent popularity of The Secret epitomizes the New Age community. If I had to summarize that movie in one sentence, it would be something like, “Think positively and become rich!” Its defining scene was a preadolescent boy wishing for a bicycle and one being delivered to his doorstep seconds later, as if magicians conjure them from thin air. While such a perspective possesses a certain charm and contains some truth, it is not one suited to pursuing free energy and an abundance paradigm, not in today’s world. New Agers should not be confused with enlightened mystics. Enlightened mystics can think critically and are not as self-centered as New Agers have too often proven to be. An enlightened mystic seeks to integrate the light and the darkness, not to deny that the darkness even exists. Such people, however, are truly needles in haystacks and I have stopped searching for them. That they are not contacting me means that I may not have the right stuff, either, or that I need to be more patient (which I find difficult to be these days). "

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Today I received a message about my mention of The Secret in my previous post, and how it compares to the message that Seth presented in his work, particularly The Nature of Personal Reality. This is a version of my response.


That is a big subject. In brief, we are all creators, as Seth makes clear. However, mature creators consciously do it with love, and they have that love for all of Creation, including themselves. I deal with it some, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love

Also, darkness is a part of this dualistic plane, if nowhere else (and my monologue from god to that highest-level dark path entity is somewhat Ra-ish). Mature creators respect the darkness as a necessary part of this plane, at least, and the ultimate resolution is integrating the darkness, not denying it or trying to destroy it. New Agers generally deny the darkness and when they do their "creating," it is almost always in a self-serving way, such as "manifesting" parking places, or like, in The Secret, "manifesting" a bicycle or money. From an economic perspective, their orientation has nothing to do with the production aspect, but the exchange aspect. They are not really creating anything, not in a practical sense. Did Columbus "create" the Western Hemisphere?

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#first

The Seth Material, particularly The Nature of Personal Reality, I regard as a kind of advanced creator course. Strangely, I was reading my copy of it just last night, for the first time in years (I had to buy a new one recently because I could not find my original copy – probably lent out and never returned). I just opened the book and began reading, and was struck with Seth's awesome perspective and how well that material has "aged." I regard The Nature of Personal Reality as Seth's masterwork. As I have written about before on this thread, Seth's work reflects on Jane Roberts to some degree, but in this world of scarcity, Jane tried making her relationship to Seth something exclusive, and threatened another Seth channel (Seth was one of several entities that he channeled) whose sessions I attended for two years (about fifty sessions in all) more than twenty years ago. I understand that the original Michael channels in the San Francisco Bay area also play blueblood regarding the Michael Material. That is a pitfall of having an ego in this world of scarcity. We all are subject to that hazard. That is a big reason why my work is freely given, and I say that anybody going after free energy for the money, fame and the like does not have a prayer. If such-motivated free energy aspirants are lucky, they will get the friendly buyout offer, but they will never come close to bringing free energy to the world.

In contrast to The Nature of Personal Reality, The Secret is another matter entirely. It came out a few years back, and because of some of the circles that my wife and I run around in, we were bombarded with people telling us to watch this great new movie, and how it would change our lives. After most of a lifetime immersed in that subject matter, no movie or book is going to do that to somebody like me, but my wife eventually bought a copy from an insistent friend, and we put it in the stack to watch, almost for professional reasons. So, one night we put it on. About two minutes into the movie after its Hollywood introduction, I put it on pause, looked over at my wife, and said something like, "This is what people have been raving about?" That was two hours of my life wasted.

It was like being a connoisseur of fine wines and being besieged by everybody around you, as they rave about a great new wine that puts all the others to shame. Because of everybody hammering you, you finally decide that you need to buy a bottle to see what the fuss is about. When you open it, the scent of rotgut spirits that only winos drink assails your nostrils, and the first sip (that you quickly spat out) told you that your nose was right. It really made you wonder about your friends and their discernment.

The Secret came off like one of those late-night infomercials that promised young men their fair share of babes, money and fancy cars if they only signed up for the easy journey to fame and fortune. If you ever watch The Secret, there is a part early on where some woman talks about our creative ability, and says that it can be used for all sorts of stuff, such as making money! Another speaker showed how his positive mental attitude helped him acquire a big, expensive house and a babe of a wife. When one speaker was on, a slowly rotating silver key floated on the screen. When another speaker was on, a jingling set of golden scales floated on the screen. They were aiming about as low as I have seen, for something that presents itself as an enlightened guide to living. To call it a movie for children would be insulting to true children's movies.

So, contrasting those two works can be a useful exercise. One encourages us to realize and explore the miracle of our existence and our abilities as creators, while the other encourages egocentrism, exhorting its audience to "manifest" bikes, money, and babes for themselves. They take similar subject matter and approach it from almost opposite ends of the spectrum.

I could go on and on about making the teachings of the masters into organized religions, which invariably corrupt the teachings from something enlightening, liberating and inspiring into a method of social control to keep the cash registers singing. Today, we have A Course in Miracles cults, cults around various channels, and so on. The so-called New Age is really a latter-day version of the Old Age. It might help pave the way for a true New Age, but in its practice today, it is just another ego-based corruption of enlightened messages.

There is some incredibly good mystical material out there, and I have encountered plenty of it, but as with the free energy pursuit, there is mountain of chaff for every kernel of wheat.

Like Don Shimoda, I will take my enlightenment where I find it, and I am going to attach a strip from one of my favorite comic strips, from a book that I have been carrying around (through about twenty moves) for forty years. It contrasts the difference between The Nature of Personal Reality and The Secret, in a humorous way. My correspondent stated that The Secret was his introduction to the idea that we create our own realities. So, for that, The Secret can garner some points for introducing the idea to beginners, however the serious pupil is going to leave stuff like The Secret behind pretty quickly. Our introductions to the mystical can often come from less than the best and the highest. The teacher who initiated my mystical awakening abused his position with women:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#intro

That kind of behavior nearly epitomized the California New Age scene, I am sad to say. The only time I have ever been ripped off by mail order (ordering something that never arrived, and they refused to refund my money) was by the Whole Life Expo for an LA show. California’s “leading edge” status was for more than being the New Age capital, but today’s laws in the USA regarding therapists having sexual relationships with their patients arose from the California therapy scene in the 1960-1980s, where getting sex from one’s patients was almost seen as a professional perk. That California has the most corrupt judicial system in the USA is also one of its “leading edge” merit badges. That the state is also effectively bankrupt is another leading indicator of where the USA is heading, and fast. The Secret is very representative of the kind of thinking that takes place in the New Age scene, which is why it was so insanely popular.


Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

What you did with the quote was fine. As people can tell, I do not do snips of posts to respond to. My style is holistic, and snips can be hazardous, taking things out of context, but what you did was OK by me, especially since you are so flattering. :)

On my impatience, it is just what my soul chose for this personality to work on in this lifetime. We all get some baggage to work on, oh joy of joys. I guess that to be at this task for nearly forty years, and seeing virtually no physical evidence of progress on the energy front, as far as what the public is aware of and uses, is a good way to develop patience, especially when fallout from a nuclear energy disaster is wafting down on me as I write this.

To your post, my previous one addresses the issue in more depth. As is evident, I do not mince words, and my style is not for everybody, but it is the information that is important. People need to do their own work. I believe that we can get pointers from the experience of others. If we didn't, proto-humans would have never left the trees. However, experience is the greatest and, perhaps, only teacher.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

An Avalon member courteously decided to question my Jane Roberts characterization in a private email, not wanting to “derail” my thread. The member informed me that Seth said that he would only come through Jane, so Jane may have had solid ground to stand on regarding “imitators.” A version of my response is below.



Yes, I know that Seth said it in one of the books. There are a number of ways to look at that. Perhaps, most understandably, that statement would have had a conflict of interest baked into it. That could have been channeling distortion on Jane’s part, making the relationship exclusive.

Another way to see it is that Seth has been called a mid-causal entity, in the Michael terminology.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

The Michael entity, for instance, is comprised of more than a thousand King and Warrior souls, so has access to more than 100,000 lifetimes of experience. My understanding is that mid-causal entities are a joining of all of those souls. Those souls “contribute” to making that mid-causal entity (and the mid-causal entity could be seen to have also spawned those souls), but Seth and Michael were clear that the souls and “fragments” (AKA Earthly personalities – those 100,000 lifetimes) also maintain their integrity. For instance, when other Michael channels popped up and the “original” San Francisco channels claimed that all other Michael channels were pale imitations of the original (to their credit, I believe that the original Michael channels have never revealed themselves publicly, which can keep the material more “pristine” and not have to deal with the vagaries of fame), the explanations that I have seen is that the San Francisco group was interacting with a particular sub-group of the Michael entity, such as a sub-group of fifty Kings and Warriors. The other Michael channels were interacting with other sub-groups of the Michael entity.

When that Seth "version" that I interacted with began coming through that man, the name “Seth” did not come out for quite some time, apparently. That Seth also explained the connection (and why it was different than Jane’s) similarly to how those Michael sub-groups did. The Seth that I knew had a slightly different flavor than Jane’s Seth did. That can be due to a different sub-group, but also can be due to a different medium. My first encounter with Seth was rather spectacular. Whether is it watching UFOs (that was about the show of the year, as I found out later):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

swimming with dolphins (my guide, who had been doing it for 20 years, had never seen the kind of encounter that we had, and he thought that it was because they responded to my presence):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#dolphins

or listening to a voice that told me to study business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

or move a thousand miles away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

my eager-beaverness has usually been responded to, in spectacular fashion, and it was no exception when I first met Seth in 1986. During our encounter, he read my mind and did it in a way that was very funny. One of my “skeptical” friends tried to explain it away, but it was a very weak explanation (typical “skeptical” http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends behavior, BTW), but Seth left me no doubt that he was real in that he was not just some guy closing his eyes and pretending he was a channel. Perhaps not accidentally, I was on the way to Boston, chasing Dennis, when I had that first encounter with Seth.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

Then, I began going when Dennis was in jail the first time, and attended the sessions for a couple of years until I moved to Ohio. Over those two years, the man channeled three different entities, and the subject matter determined which one came through. One night, all three came through. Sometimes, Seth disappeared for months, while the other entities came through. A few times some pretty amazing events happened that made it very clear that this was not just some guy pretending to be a channel. It came with the territory of being there. Sometimes, you got to see awesome events.

In my circles, my pals think that J. Z. Knight is no longer channeling Ramtha, who announced that he would come through for only a certain time period that long ago ended. There is an entire Ramtha community here in Washington, and all sorts of red flags get raised if you ever saw J.Z. Knight channeling Ramtha, with her hunk bodyguards, a crowd that sometimes engaged in cultish behavior, etc. Knight is known as a full-body channel who has no recollection of the experience. When another woman began doing full-body channeling, Knight was pretty scathing in her attacks, as I recall. That exclusivity thing, whether channels think that they have an exclusive Earthly connection to a mid-causal entity, or whether they think that they have exclusive “rights” to a particular kind of channeling, is sad to see, and I chalk it up to our scarcity-based existence here and people trying to protect their livelihood. It is all too human.

So, that LA Seth channel (who moved from LA long ago) told me that he once got a message on his answering machine from Jane Roberts. She threatened him for using Seth’s name, claiming exclusive rights to it. The man made the observation that for all the enlightenment that Seth could provide, Jane was a pretty negative person. Now, this is just what I saw and heard, and take it how you wish, but I have no doubt that Jane called and made that threat. The guy was not publishing Seth books or anything like that, cutting into Jane’s cash flow. He made a few contributions to a long-defunct channeling magazine, but that was about it on the publishing front.

That Seth channel was similar to Jane’s Seth in that it was nearly a full body channel “technique,” where they did not have much recollection of the channeling, but they did have some idea, like the themes of the channeling, and they often had some kind of dreamlike remembrance of parts of it, but with strange imagery and symbology.

The channeling phenomenon is multi-faceted. I have at least two hundred channeled books here at home, along with a stack of channeled magazines probably taller than am.

I am not getting on Jane’s case. She was human like the rest of us. Heck, with my journey on the free energy front, I have had to deal with the idea that some newbie to the field is going to get The Muppet Movie ending, as he/she becomes the world’s messiah:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related

If that happens and Dennis is still at it, I don’t know how he will react, although knowing Dennis, he would try to become a dealer of the device. :)

With all the dishonest attacks on Dennis that I have seen over the years from his fellow travelers in the alternative/free energy ranks, I think that whoever makes it will get plenty of jealous barbs from the also-rans. It is small thinking, but it is way too prevalent, and part of the “world’s scarcest commodity is personal integrity” dynamic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

When I have been plagiarized and impersonated on the Internet, it has been troubling. Giving my work away is not enough for people like that. They have to pretend to be me or call my work theirs (one plagiarist was a professional writer, and no, they never hear from me, except for the impersonators). So, I have some appreciation of what people like Jane Roberts went through.

Here is my final example of this issue. In The Aquarian Gospel (which was my bedside companion for years when I was 18-20 years old, and I read it every night), there was a passage when Jesus was in his “ministry” years near the end, and one of his disciples told him that in another town not far away, another man was doing the Jesus Thing, healing the sick, playing the loaves and fishes game, and so on. The disciple said that it was an “unauthorized” display of God’s powers (with Jesus being the one and only true messiah), and that they should put an end to it somehow. Jesus rebuked the disciple, saying that anybody who could perform such feats had God’s blessing, otherwise they would not be able to do it. Jesus chastened his disciple for thinking that Jesus had an exclusive “right” to speak God’s truth, heal the sick and manifest food. So, this dynamic is pretty old. :)

Thanks for bringing up this important issue.

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

hi Wade

speaking of teachers, and you say experience is the greatest and perhaps only teacher I would like to add that my own awakening back in 1977 came as a result of dialogue, not debate, but a relaxed interchange of ideas, and each leaving the other party room to digest thoughts as they are brought to the table. I believe all parties can learn a lot from good consultation and dialogue, provided no one is out to shoot the other party down and walk away as a winner from the debate.
The ideal aim is a win-win situation.

Since then I like to seek out people of an advanced intellect, not to flatter them or get their attention, but rather this is need on my part to try and repeat that precious experience of enlightenment I had as a result of that dialogue so many years ago which literally shot me through several dimensions to a very high state.
I'm known I'm not the only one who became an enlightenment addict...since then I'v met many others who like me have made massive life changes just to be in the right place just in case that particular interdimensional gate might open again.

So, to get to the topic of free energy. One of the insights I had back then was like a mathematical formula that showed me the dynamics of cause and effect. And always my attention or focus was held on the midpoint, or zero point between two extremes. That midpoint was where the Unlimited could be accessed...if only for the briefest moment. Even my personal energy level became so high for two weeks I had to MAKE myself sleep, if only 2 hours a night...I simply didn't feel the need. So someone or something was charging me.
But I used common sense and knew it would be a good idea to consider my body....which I had largely disconnected from.
Despite the disconnection I was aware there was incredible power in my body. I felt I could charge batteries with my hands. I could heal, and did so successfully. I was stroking a dog of a friend and it responded wagging tail and running about, which was an expected normal reaction. But my friend told me the dog had been so arthritic and in so much pain that it hadn't walked in three weeks and she believed it was I who got it to walk again.

So now I have a question. In your experience does the field from which FE is drawn have to be charged by human consciousness or is there at all times a charge present with no need for an intent?

[Wade Frazier]

Ulli:

You ask some really great questions, truly. That is another big subject that you are broaching. It will be my great pleasure to answer it this weekend.

Best,

Wade

[Jayke]

Ulli, You're experiences sound a lot like a thread I was reading here on Avalon about Nei Kung and demonstrations of chi (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12525-NeiKung-amazing-demonstration-of-Chi)...I wonder if anyone from the free energy community has tracked down any of these spiritual masters and asked for their insights or help to create a device.
Would we not be able too, instead of using human consciousness, use the consciousness of the planet...tapping into resonant frequency waves to charge our device. Probably a newbie question but I have 23 pages of discussion to catch up on so I'll be back with a more informed perspective once I've gone through all your posts.

[ulli]

Ulli, You're experiences sound a lot like a thread I was reading here on Avalon about Nei Kung and demonstrations of chi (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12525-NeiKung-amazing-demonstration-of-Chi)...I wonder if anyone from the free energy community has tracked down any of these spiritual masters and asked for their insights or help to create a device.
Would we not be able too, instead of using human consciousness, use the consciousness of the planet...tapping into resonant frequency waves to charge our device. Probably a newbie question but I have 23 pages of discussion to catch up on so I'll be back with a more informed perspective once I've gone through all your posts.

Absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for directing me to this video.
I have had healing done to me and felt the healers hands much hotter than normal body temparature. My hands also warm up when I concentrate but since I never tried to consciously develop this ability any further it's nothing to boast about.
Which brings me to that last part of the video, where D.J. was chastised by his master for disclosing his art to the public.
In order to understand the term "occult" ( meaning hidden) in the proper context one must reflect on why hide anything at all? And then do some serious contemplating on this.
Obviously the aim is to protect. Protect from what?
Because there are underlying laws governing these supernatural abilities which need to be adhered to with precision, and any interference from a chaotic, disrespecting mind would dilute matters and even ruin all that has been gained.

My understanding of the current condition of the planet is to offer everyone the chance through all this tremendous suffering and deprivation to discover these inner powers, as well as the exact laws which must be applied to gain access to these abilities.
Anyone for whom the word law is a red letter word because they want 100% permissiveness and unbridled freedom will unfortunately lose out. But whosoever is willing to go through training, discipline, learning, which means subject themselves to a master or teacher or way shower will be able to lead a team to seed life in far-away galaxies one day.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

To your recent posts…

I come from a family of healers. Long story, but I have had the “hot hands,” remarked on by my “patients” and very noticeable to me. That energy can heal or kill, as with all energy. Intention is everything. Here is something that I suspect is true, but have not encountered the information anywhere. A la Michael:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

younger souls are on the outward journey, and today’s global civilization is on the cusp of the greatest transition that any ensouled species ever makes, from the outward to the inward orientation. Younger souls (infant to young), like young people, are the most self-centered and rack up the biggest karmic debts while in their younger soul stages, and they pay it back in later lives. The materialistic, outward outlook of younger souls largely precludes them from having any interest or talent for the inward journey (“skeptics” http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends for instance, are virtually all materialists, and their outlook is as dogmatic and religious as any fanatic’s can be, as I discovered). That outward focus also helps protect them. Abusing mystical abilities for self-serving reasons is probably the best and easiest way to rack up huge negative karma. Only older souls are going to have much interest or talent for the inward journey, and they have also attained a level of perspective to where they are less likely to abuse it. If people abuse those abilities (such as using them for the dark arts; trying to win the lottery with them is also an abuse, but is more of a venial sin :) ) and hurt others, they will likely spend many lifetimes in penance. If an alleged archangel is to be believed (and I do, partly for reasons of it being spectacularly right and prescient on other matters), I helped melt down Atlantis long ago, and my soul has been paying the price for most of its lifetimes since then. The melting down of Atlantis was an energy disaster, so, if true, probably explains my bizarre journey in this lifetime. I come from a family with extreme mystical ability, but I do not use it very often. It is dramatically there when I want it, but it is a double-edged sword that I use only sparingly. I may still be dealing with a block (so the archangel told me). So, I may be speaking from experience when I say that abusing mystical abilities is hazardous in ways that may not be obvious.

In my recent interview:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#g/c/BACC03E294B890CD

and in my writings, I described meeting Dennis as like being hit by a lightning bolt.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

I am not being as figurative as people may think. I believe that it only happened once in my life, but soon after I got the job with Dennis, I spent an entire night in bed, in an altered, exalted state. I am not sure that I slept a wink. It was more like a waking dream, an exhilarating experience where I was almost floating above my bed, I was so excited by what I thought I was getting into. Even though I starved, 1986 was the happiest year of my life, as I hiked in the mountains every weekend and engaged in what became my life’s work during the week. Ah, the blessings of innocence! 1988 was the worst year of my life, hands down, with December 1988 the blackest month of my life, but then I sacrificed my life and the miracle happened http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it . But, it is also the year where I got together with my wife. Somebody was pulling the strings rather hard in those days, with events so dramatic and seemingly contrived that I could not fail to understand that something was testing me. I got unexpected and sometimes dramatic compensation along the way, mixed with all the tests and horrors. I think that I passed the test, but I do not want any more tests. :)

Your question about FE and consciousness is perhaps the central issue of the entire FE conundrum, but it plays out over multiple dimensions and is very challenging to understand. Today, around 99% of humanity is trapped in layers 0 to 3 of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

and way more than 99% if we also count level 4. I mentioned in my interview that FE devices may have psychotronic effects, where its operation interacts with human consciousness. Level 19 people can manifest energy at will. There are various sublevels to that level, too. That guy who does not need to eat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMLFLhw3UGs

can do it for his body. Further along in Level 19, some masters can manifest energy externally in sensational ways. I regularly get people saying, “Hey, let’s all become level 19s!” I highly doubt that humanity is going to leap from Levels 0 and 1 to Level 19 overnight or in my next ten lifetimes. I am a Level 12-er, and look for others like me, or those who are willing to try to get to Level 12. Maybe we can get humanity to Level 16, but I think it is part of the journey to Level 21, ultimately. We are going to go through a technological phase of the FE journey, especially in the West. One of the most enlightened things I ever read on this subject was about ten years ago when an activist said that the West would not suddenly gain its enlightenment and become a bunch of Eastern meditators. We got into this mess through technology, and we are going to clean it up with technology. Both of the future Earths that Roads saw were technologically advanced:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

While the Eastern teachings are important, and people like Yogananda had a mission to bring the East and West closer, we are going to have to clean up our mess by technology at first, and FE technology heads the list, obviously. That is just simple karma in action. I see a kind of low integrity response perpetrated by people all the time as they challenge my free energy vision. They refuse to take responsibility for the mess that we made (and that they currently benefit from – everybody reading these words is enjoying the benefit of Western technological and energy practices), and do not want to have a hand in cleaning it up, but want to sit and meditate all day long, thinking that that will solve all of our problems. It exemplifies the “you are so heavenly bound that you are no Earthly good” idea.

When I was on the NEM board:

http://www.newenergymovement.org/

at one of our meetings, I said something like, “Where do you think that energy comes from?” I then stated that I believe that the ZPF is divine in nature, and that until humanity gained sufficient collective personal integrity, we would not get the benefit of it. I mean that on a number of levels, and they are related. If our heart is not in the right place, collectively, then we will never overcome the organized suppression. If our heart is not in the right place, we will likely abuse FE, so it is better that we do not get our hands on it in the first place. Also, if our collective heart is not in the right place, the technology may well not work on a mass scale. That is another reason why I am taking the lamb’s path to FE, and why the Young Warriors

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

dismiss me as a dreamer, even though I have never seen a Young Warrior last on the field of play that I lived on for more than moments. I watched many “tough guys” and accomplished mystics crumble in seconds when playing at the level that we did.

Taking the lamb’s path may not only be the only one that will work, but it simultaneously is a test of our integrity and worthiness to get our hands on FE technology. If the lamb’s path gets there (if enough people can be found who care, it would be an easy journey), it also ensures that worthy people have made it to the mountaintop. In short, there are mystical, ethical, technological and practical dimensions to the FE conundrum, and they are related in ways that can be very real and exceedingly subtle.

When I posted a link to that account of Mark's experiences earlier in this thread, what was not disclosed in that account was that Mark’s mystical awakening (via a high-energy Kundalini experience) provided him the insight so that he could create that FE prototype. All technology is related to our spiritual journey, but it is ever more so when playing the FE game. There are also tales of the ZPF creating local effects that can be deleterious to one’s health. I am not quite sure what to make of it, but it seems that FE technology needs to be shielded or at least put a few feet away from life forms, because of its field. That may well be because of the relatively primitive way that we are accessing it. ET civilizations have been using FE technology for a long time, but I believe that not only do they suffer no ill effects from their FE technology, but it also has salubrious effects. Big subject, obviously, and I am certainly not privy to much “inside information” on that stuff, except knowing that the Big Boys have had FE, antigravity and other exotic technologies for a long, long, time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I have a busy weekend and month coming up. This was about my last lull before I begin stacking sandbags at my day job. I begin a fast today, so it will give me more time, but I really need to get that energy essay going faster than I have so far. I hope that helps answer your profound question.

Best,

Wade

P.S. Hi Jayke. Welcome to this thread. This particular post I believe is relevant to your observation, also.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Somebody asked me privately about the hot hands. Here is part of my reply.

I suppose that you have heard of hands-on healing. The New Testament’s Jesus did plenty of it. It does not have to be by laying hands on people, but it can be more powerful when there is touching. As I mentioned, I come from a family of healers, and some have amazing mystical abilities, like healing people of AIDS by simply being in the same room with them, or cripples standing up and walking out of the room carrying their crutches with them. I am not kidding you. It was not until I took Silva Mind Control:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

that that world opened up for me, and I eventually did more than dabble in healing work. But, any worthy healer knows that they really do not do the healing, but act as a conduit between the “patient” and the source of the healing energy (if you called it God, I would not contradict you, but I am not sure where it comes from).

Many powerful healers get hot hands when healing. They literally become hot. Not scorching hot, but at least several degrees warmer than normal, like your hands had a burning fever. I did quite a few healings in my younger days, and when doing that work, you know that it is something that comes through you, not from you. In order to be a worthy vessel, you have to act through your heart. The mind and ego have to take a back seat. I think that healing like that is an application of directed love.

However, with terminal patients, your act of healing can kill them. By that, I do not mean that they were not already on their way out, but your efforts may be the catalyst that lets them move forward into leaving the physical plane behind, helping them to let go. I was rather “good” with that type of “healing.” In mystical healing teachings, it has been stated that when you do that kind of work with terminal patients, they will either get quickly and dramatically better, or they will die within three days. It gets them off the fence, and it is their choice what to do with the healing energy. Four people in a row died within three days of my working on them, and the last was the most dramatic and the only one where I did a laying on of hands for a terminal patient. It was a seventeen-year-old girl who was dying of leukemia. I was one of several people working on the healing, but when it was my turn, it was intense, and the girl remarked on the fiery heat that came from my hands. I felt it, too, and the others in the room could tell that something pretty powerful was happening. She died about 68 hours after that first treatment. I did it again during the next two days, but the experience was not nearly like the first one, and part of me realized that she was dying. The first time was the one that was needed; the others were not.

However, – and this is a big however – before my first attempt the girl was surrounded by a very fearful family as they witnessed her last days, and the atmosphere of fear was hard for her to handle, too. After that first healing session, the next three days were a blessedly peaceful exit for that girl. That is not my opinion, but her mother’s. That “healing” became a balm that gave her a quick and easy exit. Her mother and I became great friends after the daughter’s death, and I healed the mother’s broken neck (she credited me with it, and again, that was not my perception – I just did the work).

That girl’s death happened about a year before I met Dennis. I think that it was one of many tests that I was given, to see if I was “worthy” of being given the charge that I took up with Dennis.

I wish that I could tell you about fairy-tale endings, but that is not how it works on Earth these days. “Killing” my patients was hard for me. The fourth day, when I went to that girl’s room at the hospital, to see her empty bed instead (she died a few hours earlier) was an unforgettable moment. I have not worked on “terminal” patients since. In fact, I rarely do psychic healing work anymore. Maybe, one day, I will do it again. I have healed people of some pretty dramatic conditions, and they realized that I did it. Again, it is never, “I did it,” but I was the only human healer in the room for those events, so it became “Wade did it.”

Having that voice chime in at Mr. Professor’s funeral:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

was some very bitter medicine for me, and propelled me into the dark phase of my midlife crisis. As I stated before, the whole thing is a double-edged sword and not for the faint of heart. Even with the best of intentions, it is not easy work, and a lot of tears can be shed. I am teary as I write this, just remembering those days. There were many blessings and I have no regrets, but it is not an easy path to walk, and I ultimately decided that I would take other paths. I would like to think that my days with Dennis and the years afterward that led to my website and public efforts have been taking my healing interests into other arenas. They have been no less agonizing, that is for sure, but they are what I was drawn to (or sent to). I am not sure what will come of it all, but I was like a moth to the candle.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wade,

Thank you for this wonderful post. You are a "strange" combination between a scientist and a mystic :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

The greatest physicists were all, to one degree or another, mystics.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

The greatest scientific and creative minds that I have known, and I have known some that were truly world-class, were also all mystical in their orientation, to one degree or another. The same goes for pretty much everybody that I have any respect for in the FE field. As I have written before, what is pretty interesting about my FE fellow travelers is the diverse paths that we took to get there. I was not initially pursing free energy, nor was Dennis. My initial orientation to the issue was technological. Then I came from the business side of the house, but only because some damned voice guided me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

I considered myself a no-nonsense atheist when I had my mystical awakening at 16:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#how

Some of the big names in FE also came to the subject matter as hard-nosed materialistic scientists, but eventually broadened their horizons. You can’t travel very far down that path and entirely avoid awakening experiences that open one’s eyes beyond the scarcity-based ideologies that we are all raised with:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I agree that it is hard to categorize me or my work. It has been called, from numerous quarters, something unique on the Internet. I am not sure if that is a good or a bad thing ( :) ), but I understand the observation. I went wherever my search for the truth and planetary healing took me, and what a long, strange trip it has been. As Ernie can probably relate to, being a “generalist” can end up covering a lot of territory.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

I have been away for a week or so and see I have missed some interesting topics.

"Who is John Galt?" is how the book Atlas Shrugs begins. I, too, was taken with that book. But then I read more of her work and clumped her in with other elitists and their agendas of power-mongering.

I am revisiting The Seth material - reading Unknown Reality right now. I really like Seth and his accessible and testable esoteric principles.

I have learned to be patient the hard way, by having impatience shoved down my throat until I thought I might burst from inertia! Now I am working on infinite pateince - a concept that sounds ridiculous but actually can work to produce immediate results!

There are some very interesting people on this thread these days. I feel outclassed but in good company, unlike many of the other threads on this forum where my opinion leans heavily into the negative - the main reason I do not post here at Avalon any more.
We must protect each other from the egoists and their nefarious agendas. To be complacent in the face of unfair tactics and life-destroying attacks is commonplace in our society, but should not be alllowed on a forum touted as a meeting place for future leaders and trailblazers.

Finally, I find that for all the talk, few are ready to put their mouths where their money is. I have seen that those with financial portfolios, houses and cars are not about to give any of those things up - ever! Not that it is neccessary for an abundance paradigm to take hold in our hearts - but it does make it far easier to arrive there if there are no personal liabilities to worry about. Having been long ago forced out of the money game to a large extent I have a unique insight into this particular topic. What I consider reasonable effort today most others would consider as impossible obstacles. Without going into details suffice it to say that when you have only your own body and its resources to rely on you quickly find out there are no limits but your own self-imposed ones. My main lesson from recent years is the realization that the body can and will do whatever the mind has decided is to be done. The body is a tool of the mind. And the mind is a tool of the soul. And the heart is the soul's only guide.
For there is only One Heart and One Love, and ultimately, One Spirit from which all ours souls derive.

Blessed be the Source and the illumination of your soul that it provides!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Thanks for the Ayn Rand feedback. The rad left has called her a "pseudointellectual" before, but I wanted to see for myself, and what I read of her work seemed rather "in-her-head" philosophical, as in somebody who was not really writing from experience. But, I look forward to reading Atlas Shrugged one day.

That idea of using infinite patience to get instant results sure is attractive to somebody with patience issues. :) I'll try it out one day, and if I don’t get instant results, at least I did not waste much time!

I hear you on threads going places that you feel are counter-productive and even injurious. While the subject matter than I plan to tackle has not really been addressed much on this thread yet, when that sub-forum gets going, I hope it is someplace where you will want to participate.

To your last paragraph – big subject. As I write, the primary reason why people get trapped by their scarcity-based ideologies is because they are fed by them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

That is the insidious nature of our conditioning, which has been happening for, oh, let's say about ten thousand years. It took many years for me to finally understand what the innumerable denials of free energy that I encountered had in common. Your observation on money and doing something is like that cat Jesus's observation about a rich man, heaven and the eye of the needle. In a world of scarcity…

Best,

Wade

P.S.

I would like to tell a happy story about that girl with leukemia. She died in late 1984. In 1984, the King of Teenybop was Rick Springfield. That girl was a rabid fan. Her mother contacted Springfield's people about him spending some time with the girl. In 1984, Springfield was on top, getting a Grammy nomination every year and selling out stadiums. Her mother really worked to get past his handlers, and she finally got the OK when he was on tour. Her daughter spent about an hour before one of Springfield's shows, backstage with him. She gave him some trophy-looking sculpture that was from one of his movies, videos, or some such, and for an hour, she played it like his long-lost lover. The girl had bandages on her arms from the catheters. Her mother said that Springfield hit all the right notes in that hour. It was not done for publicity or any of that Hollywood stuff, but just honoring a girl's dying wish. I was already a fan of his music, but when I heard that story from her mother, replete with the pictures, I became a permanent fan. I just thought that I would share that.

[Wade Frazier]

Speak of the devil...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/atlas_shrugged_part_i/

[eaglespirit]

HeHeHe...Synchronicity!!! : ) : ) : )


Speak of the devil...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/atlas_shrugged_part_i/

[Ernie Nemeth]

Touching story Wade.

But that is the path to abundance. It is paved with moments of extraordinary giving. It is not even neccessarily monumentous moments, just little out-of-the-blue acts of random kindness.
Nice.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

As is obvious, I am making some posts that are autobiographical in nature and arguably off-topic. My site's material, while never straying too far from my experiences, is relatively short on anecdote and autobiographical details, so I am posting some personal details here. I doubt that I have ever told anybody the following anecdote before, partly because it is so strange. As with many experiences in my life, looking at back at them, I sometimes find it hard to believe that the events really happened. But they did. So, without further ado….

As can be seen from the pictures part of my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm

I go hiking into the mountains whenever I can. That I have a view of the Cascades out of my office window is some rich compensation for my journey.

When I lived in Los Angeles, I got out of town as often as possible, and Bishop became my home away from home. In those days, I was in my early awakening years, being thrust into the urban hell of Los Angeles.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

In 1984, my pal in Bishop, who used to be a ranger in the Sierras, stationed out of Bishop, went with me on an ambitious trip. I think that my days in LA spurred me to really go for it in the mountains. Ah, to be young and foolish. As I think back on those days, my gung-ho nature in the mountains was a preview of my days with Dennis. We began our trip hiking through the gorgeous Little Lakes Valley:

http://www.naturalbornhikers.com/LittleLakesValley/LittleLakesValley.htm

After hiking through the valley, we left the trail and scrambled over to a lake on the way to Bear Creek Spire.

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/california/high_sierra/bear_creek_spire/105806064

It rained the first afternoon as we made our first camp on a lake. The second day was very scrambly, and I got us lost, one ridge off of my intended route. It was fun scrambling, however. Along the way, we passed a blaze on a tree that my friend said was made by John Muir (his blazes were distinctive). We got into the right valley and made it to Spire Lake just as it began raining. We camped next to the lake. My intended route was going over an arm of Bear Creek Spire and into the Lake Italy valley. The first picture below is taken en route that morning.

From that point onward, it was a very memorable day. The snowfield across the flank of Bear Creek Spire was a challenging scramble. As I look back, I am grateful that nobody died. I led and kicked steps in the snow. Many years later, I lost traction on a slope like that (tired after kick-stepping for several hours) and slid down a mountainside on my back for a hundred yards or so before I came to a stop. On that trip across that snowfield, I now realize that if one of us had slipped, we would have slid over a cliff and to our deaths at the head of Little Lakes Valley. Then, I was being careful but thoroughly enjoying the experience. My ranger pal later said that it was the most dangerous afternoon of scrambling that he ever did. I won’t disagree. Midway across the snowfield, I took the opportunity to scramble across a field of boulders and was surprised when the entire pile began to shift.

After the boulder pile, it was easier going. As I neared the top of the snowfield and approached the ridgeline, in moved the clouds, for the third day in a row (it was August, so raining every day was unseasonably wet). I was tired of being soggy, so I tried a trick that I read about in Bach’s Illusions, and a trick that my Seattle Silva Mind Control instructor said he did with a group of pals in the wilderness: psychic weather control. If you are in a remote area and not subject to mass consciousness, you can more readily get the clouds to do your bidding. My Silva instructor said that on one trip that he took with his pals, there was about a one-mile hole in the clouds that surrounded them for their entire trip; it rained all around them, while they got sunshine the entire time. In Illusions, Don Shimoda said to just imagine the clouds how you want them to be, and they will oblige.

So, in the last hundred yards or so to the ridgeline, I imagined a rectangular hole in the ominous clouds above us, which would keep us dry. A few minutes later, I looked up and there was an almost perfect, rectangular hole in the clouds right above us, almost exactly as I imagined it. It was one of those “I’ll be damned, it works!” moments. However, what happened next was probably no accident. The hole closed almost immediately and the heavens opened up, just as we attained the ridgeline. The second picture below is from that moment, taken by my friend.

Within a minute or two after that picture was taken, as we stood on the ridge, looking down on Lake Italy, lightning hit the ridge. It is the closest I have ever come to being hit by lightning, and the flash was almost blinding and the boom echoed for an amazingly long time. While the lightning may have hit the spire, it may well have hit the ridge we were standing on. I have this feeling that it hit less than a hundred yards from where we were standing. Then it began hailing in a torrent. I looked for a boulder to hide under, but my friend said that the best action would be to get off the ridge ASAP, so we half-ran down into the valley.

The rest of the trip was awesome, and my friend said that it was the most beautiful Sierra country that he had seen, and I will not disagree. The trip battered us so greatly that my initial, ambitious route was cut short by fifteen miles or so, as we took a nearby valley out, so the trip was “only” about forty miles.

As I look back, I think that Mother Nature let me play with her clouds for a moment, but also reminded me to respect her.

In 1990, when my first stint with Dennis was finished:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#names

I spent part of the summer hiking in the Cascades. I did a few ambitious trips, but usually with my cousin. The trip documented below, however, I did by myself. Cascade Pass is one of the most popular hikes in the Cascades, for good reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Pass
http://www.naturalbornhikers.com/CascadePass/SahaleArm.htm
http://www.nps.gov/noca/planyourvisit/cascade-pass-trail.htm

At the pass, you look down into Pelton Basin, and I went to Trapper Lake via a scramble trail.

http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=403058

At Trapper Lake, some scientists were performing data gathering related to the lake’s sediments, so I was not alone for the entire trip. I rafted Trapper Lake in my space-age raft (it weighs less than a pound, and I have had it since 1984). On the way out, Yawning Glacier tempted me. I had never been on a glacier before, and it took me about an hour of scrambling to get up to the glacier. As with that wobbly rock pile on the arm of Bear Creek Spire, the moraine field coming out of the glacier’s snout was a loose pile of boulders, and I sank up to my knee in boulders as I scrambled up to the glacier. Where the snout of the glacier met the mountain, the glacier had melted about three feet from the mountainside, forming a cave between glacier and mountain. Being young and foolish, I went into the cave about fifty yards. Water poured on me from the glacier. On the way out, I climbed onto the glacier for a moment, and got my glacier experience. I realized that without crampons and equipment, climbing on the glacier was out of the question, and I was cautious enough to know of the danger of crevasses.

After my adventure at Yawning Glacier, it came time to finish the trip. Going down is more dangerous than going up. Most mountaineering accidents are during the descent, not the ascent. As I looked down the mountain from the snout of Yawning Glacier, a snow chute went all the way to the valley floor. About a hundred yards below me, the chute narrowed to about twenty feet as it was flanked by rock walls (that the snow has melted away from). I had new Gore-Tex rain pants on. I decided to try to slide down the chute a ways, to make the descent easier. I put on my rain pants, kept my pack on my back, and crept out onto the snow chute. I sat down and dug my heels into the snow. My strategy was to let my heels up for a moment, to gauge the slope and see if it was too dangerous to attempt. If so, I would then just trudge down the slope (I did not have an ice axe or trekking pole – several years later, I acquired such gear, but not then). I slowly pulled my heels up, ready to kick them back in if I felt that it was too dangerous. Well, the fool found out how precarious his position was; I rocketed down the mountainside. I discovered that when you are in those situations, the shrieking that accompanies your descent is involuntary. I was able to steer with my heels, and navigated through that small gap in the rocks. Snowfields below glaciers are strewn with boulders, and I was able to steer around the bigger ones, and just went right over the smaller ones. After about a quarter mile of the “toboggan run,” my velocity gradually decreased enough that I was finally able to arrest my slide.

I performed a body inventory before I stood up, to see if anything was broken. I stood rather shakily. My butt sure hurt, but nothing seemed broken, except for the hole in the seat of my new rain pants. I still have those pants and wore them for more than ten years, with duct tape on my butt. There was some planning to my foolishness; I realized, before I did it, that the bottom of the valley was on the scramble route to Trapper Lake, and that if I was unable to walk that somebody would be by in not too many days (I hoped).

Below are images that show my route. That dotted-line up the mountainside in the attached pic is the route of my “toboggan run.”

http://www.mtnphil.com/MagicOld/MagicOld.html

That was the last time that I willingly did something like that. I still love to scramble off-trail, but never like that again. I got talked into leading two trips in 2000 that I really did not want to do, and on one of them, it ended up being more death-defying than anything else I ever did, and I want to die in bed, not on a mountainside. I have become pretty particular and cautious in my old age. As they say, there are old mountaineers and bold mountaineers, but there aren’t any old, bold mountaineers. :) That may help give some insight into my wild ride with Dennis. I’ll say this, however, my life’s experiences are like Walter Mitty’s, compared to what Dennis has been through.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Ernie.

Yes, the path to abundance is heart-centered, for sure.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#stage1

But until economic abundance manifests, which is necessarily rooted in energy abundance, an abundance-based reality probably cannot manifest. That is part of the conundrum.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#done

Best,

Wade

[Scott]

Hail all

Wade Frazier's 2nd interview (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/upcoming-shows.html) (which was pre-recorded) will be Live on BBSRadio on Tuesday evening May 10th 2011 @ 7:55 Pacific 10:55 Eastern.
You can Listen to the broadcast here: http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/listen-live.html

It was another very informative interview, Wade is very knowledgeable in the area of alternative energy history.

The week previous to Wade on May 03 2011 we will also have Brian O'Leary on the show, who was recommended by Wade as another valuable source if information about Free Energy.

Scott

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Scott:

Thanks for having Brian and me on. The interviews were fun to do. Others are better historians of FE than I am. I am more of a survivor of those days, and know of many of my fellow travelers because we were all in the same soup for a while.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I got to listen to the file of my most recent interview that will be published in a few weeks:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=197129&viewfull=1#post197129

and a few pals got a sneak preview. As I ended that interview, I said that I hoped that today’s FE aspirants would find that interview, because I laid my perspective out pretty clearly, a perspective that is the result of a lifetime of experiences, many of which I was lucky to survive with my sanity intact. Nobody has really played at Dennis’s level in the FE field before or since, and the lessons learned were deep and vast. While I was there, it is still a challenge for me to comprehend what Dennis has lived through. He was certainly the Indiana Jones of FE, and is still trying, incredibly. Others have taken different but no less worthy avenues, but Dennis’s path likely became the greatest “threat” that the Global Controllers have had to deal with so far, at least from efforts mounted by the public. A lot of the attention that Dennis has received I cannot publicly discuss today, but let’s just say that a lot of it is hard to believe, even for those of us who were there.

My next few weeks will be a blur at my day job, but I have finally gotten to the stage of getting that essay written. As I have stated, it has been a daunting task, and like a star coalescing from interstellar dust, that essay has been a long time in gestating. My goal is to help the non-scientist understand the energy issue and how it is the lynchpin for life on Earth and the human economy, and how it affects most aspects of our existence, often in profound yet inconspicuous ways. I have spent much of my “free time” over the past several years doing the research to try to do the subject justice. It has been particularly rewarding to revisit chemistry and biology, which were my first loves. The advances in molecular biology and biochemistry, along with tools such as mass spectrometers, gas chromatographs and gene sequencing, makes the training that I had when young very outdated, and it has been a great pleasure to catch up on the current state of the science. Unlike my previous essays, this one will have many pictures and diagrams.

The first part of the essay is going to lay the scientific groundwork for why energy has the role that it does, and how the interplay of matter and energy led to Earth, how life evolved to where humans became the latest dominant life form on Earth, with a dominance that is unprecedented and threatens the existence of all complex life forms. Writing it in a way that is accurate, compelling, educational and relevant to the essay’s latter parts is part of the essay’s daunting nature. Of course, I will also make it very clear that the picture that science paints is not the story, but a story. False premises such as consciousness arising from matter, and not the other way around, is part of the folly of “white” science, and that materialistic perspective has led to great evils, as well as material “progress.” I am highly inspired right now to draft that first part and float it out to my pals, for feedback. Because my work is multi-disciplinary and has that unique “Wade” style, the whole will be more than a sum of the parts, and as I write the other parts, they will interact with the others and the entire essay will “morph” into the integrative whole, with entire sections being rewritten as it takes shape.

The rest of my year is going to be insanely busy, but I am going to do my best to get large chunks of that essay drafted. Maybe I will get lucky and get it finished by year-end, but it is increasingly looking like it is going to be a 2012 essay, strangely enough.

Enjoy the spring,

Wade

[Carmody]

Hello Wade,

Thank you for this wonderful post. You are a "strange" combination between a scientist and a mystic :)

It's called (And I'm sure you know this) a 'Renaissance Man'. The education and all connected to it has worked very hard to compartmentalized schooling and education so this sort of person has little to no chance of emerging. This is and has been a primary weapon in controlling mankind's development since the creation of the 'scientific paradigm'. to eliminate the wildcard individuals that SHOULD be helping save humanity from the downward spiral that some seem to be desiring to have come into being. However, thankfully...this system of incarnation has other ideas on the subject than the abusers of it can control, squeeze or malign.

Those multi-disciplinarians that have a wide vision and capacity to encompass much, which only leads to further powerful unfolding and openings. Like a given human getting up to 'water-skiing speed' and riding fast on the top of the waves--seeing everywhere. Evolution as a caffeinated speed-flow. It's a great space to find if you can get there. One trick to it... is to at first be open to all and let discernment unfold/develop and refine itself, over time. No decision is final. Unless involves something evil that should be avoided. In that case be a bit more affirmative, but still open to modifying one's point of understanding, over time.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Carmody:

Thanks. Nice post.

Bucky noted that specialization in science was a ruling class tactic to keep scientists from seeing the big picture:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

and it has been pretty effective, and the "skeptics" work hard at keeping those blinders securely fastened:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

The good news is that all the reductionism and tunnel-vision that is promoted in the halls of "learning" seems to be slowly giving way to interdisciplinary thinking. I see more and more of it, but it might end up being too late to right the ship. Being a generalist is not easy, and the specialists have their place. I think that a good generalist has to have played the specialist game to understand how to drill into the details and what the virtues and limitations of specialization are. The devil is usually in the details, details that often the specialists are most familiar with.

Best,

Wade

[161803398]

Im kinda new to this forum and I haven't read anything that Wade has written yet. I'm not a scientist so I know nada but my grandfather would have loved to talk to Wade because he lived out in the bush with my grandma and had electricity and running water.

I am wondering if Wade knows anything about this: I was sick for a couple of years with god know what it was and a friend of mine came over with a "thing" we dunna know what it is. Apparently, it contains gold and rhodium. We figure that somehow he got the electrons flowing between them. My friend says if it ever stops working to soak it in salt water for 3 days at a full moon which sounds kinda witchy to me but the thing is it works. It stops any kind of infection or irritation, kills pain, improves mental acuity and acts as a detox. We, even my friend, aren't sure what else it might do. My friend is kind of a strange guy, he has something on the roof where he lives that creates a bowl of blue sky over his place even on rainy or foggy days. I didn't believe in that one (even though I saw it) until one day I happened to meet a vetrinarian from Iran, who when I showed him my "thing" and also told him about the weather controller my friend had, told me that was "real" technology and he knew all about it. I don't know how people, like my friend, know about this stuff or where they get it from. Any comments?

My personal hypothesis for many years, even before I got my "thing" was that people could be healed by sound....tones...like on a piano. When I was about 23, a friend of mine took me to a black crown ceremony. When I asked him "why" he wanted me to go, he said it would prevent me from reincarnating into a sheep (joke). So we sat on the floor of the ballroom at the hotel and the Dalai Lama came in, scratched his nose, smiled at everyone and not much else happened except those monks were blowing their horns and whatever other instruments they were playing. After that ceremony I not only knew where my chakras were (and I didn't even know what a chakra was then) but I had a lot of other information. Also, for the longest time after that I could generate the feeling of cold water out of the top of my head. I thought this was crazy but I later did see on television someone else who said he could do that. I also had warm water running out of my heart chakra. Im pretty sure those monks knew what they were doing when they were blowing those horns.

In the bible (Im not religious in a biblical sense) they talk about the "water of life" and I think thats it. I have a lot of other thoughts about the cold water as well.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi 161803398:

On the rhodium and gold, I believe that you are referring to this stuff:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

I heard about his long ago, and have not investigated it myself, but not much would surprise me in that realm. Noble gases can have healing effects (Rife, etc.). Light and sound can heal, too. Of course, in the West, anybody sticking their head up too far on this stuff is going to get it whacked.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#ghadiali

Water also has amazing properties. Brown found some of that out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

In my upcoming interview, I talk about Brown’s Gas a bit and our experiences with it.

Most of that is on the fringes, through either organized suppression or the disinterest/unawareness of the masses. Free energy is in the same boat, but is the most suppressed of all.

On the Dalia Lama and those Tibetan chants, I heard him speak once, too, nearly twenty years ago, but I did not get a Tibetan chant performance – their sound has always fascinated me, and I have no doubt that it was related to your chakra experience. Back when I heard him speak, it was when I was going through my “Tibetan” phase. Many worthy practices are happening in the East, but like the West, not many are really high level players; too many are trying to get fed with it, and so on.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I am leaving in a few minutes to work one of those 15-hour days, but wanted to reiterate something that I just stated to a prominent pal in the “conspiracy” field. He thought that if somebody could just take a working FE prototype on tour, or upload a video of one working, then it would almost be over. He asked why nobody has done it. I replied along these lines…

Many prototypes have been demonstrated. They get taken out of circulation pretty quickly. See Sweet,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

Trombly, etc.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

I talk about those two in particular in that upcoming interview. Very few have the goods (demonstrable prototypes, and they will be made the offer they can't refuse if they get very serious, and almost nobody refuses the offer (Dennis did, and landed in jail a few weeks later
(http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer )). That is part of the conundrum. Any working prototype that is displayed while working and does not immediately disappear is about 95% of the way to the goal line. It is a lot harder than you would think. The FE device that will revolutionize the human journey I highly doubt will be something that people can build in their garages with parts they got from the hardware store. Think along the lines of Intel’s Pentium chip, and you get an idea of the technical side of it.

Nobody has ever passed the fifty yard line yet.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

It is likely that many of the “names” of FE today do not have the goods. If they did, they would have been taken out of circulation. Only people like Dennis survive jail stints, murder attempts, and refuse billion dollar bribes. For the rest of us mere mortals, the perils and temptations are simply too great.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

OK, one last post before I go to work. Newcomers to the field nearly invariably ask questions about if it was real, why then don’t we have it. That is the Square One perspective and the most common response:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#naive

The vast majority of today’s humanity will begin to wake up to free energy when somebody delivers a working free energy machine to their house:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

If a person becomes aware enough and has what it takes to just start thinking about the situation and its implications, they go usually go through these phases, and not necessarily in this order, but this order is common enough:

1. We can defeat the Big Boys in battle;

2. We can sneak past the Big Boys;

3. We can organize a stampede that will trample the Big Boys (with working prototypes, organizations built around “patriotism,” religion, business, etc.);

Some other phases are:

A. I can become the Bill Gates of free energy if I am clever and ruthless enough;

B. Maybe I can get to the stage where they will buy me out and I can then work on my tan for the rest of my life – Golden Handcuffs sound good to me (they may get cement shoes instead);

C. The Big Boys have it all locked up, and it is useless to even try; I think I will just shuffle along with the herd. I like my solace to be at least 80 proof.

Those are all layers of the Free Energy onion,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

and I have seen countless people in all of those layers over the many years, and far more. I sit in Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

and seek others like me, or help those who want to get to Level 12.

Others say that they are shooting for Level 19, and I wish them the best. However, for the rest of us, we will do FE technologically at first. If people think that FE technology is hazardous if not handled properly, its misuses pale beside abusing mystical abilities. They are related, however, as I have stated on this thread a number of times (here is one of those mentions):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=193963&viewfull=1#post193963

Again, this is a conundrum like no other, and humanity’s future likely hinges on the outcome. Getting to Level 12 and staying there is no easy trick. You have to face your demons to get there. Almost everybody wants the easy answers and would rather not be bothered with stuff like this, because American Idol comes on in a few minutes. Again, the last thing that I am doing is trying to attract their attention, but newcomers almost always think that the Hollywood route is going to work. When the Hollywood moment comes, the effort will be about 99% of the way to the finish line. The effort today is around 1-5% of the way there, as far as efforts from the public go. When people begin to chew on that reality, most run the other way as fast as they can, and I wave goodbye to them as they go. This stuff is not for dabblers and those who think that they can solve the energy issue on their lunch hour.

That is not the answer that newcomers want to hear, but it is the real answer, not the fantasy version.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Here is an addendum to my previous post…

A big reason for my site's writings and my upcoming essay is to help the well-intended but not scientifically-trained understand the energy situation and how it shapes our lives on Earth, and what the elimination of energy scarcity can mean for the human journey. When people reach Level 12 and have lived with the reality of the energy situation for many years, it is pretty incredible to see not only the invincible unawareness and denial that almost everybody is entrenched in, but also the so-called "solutions" that are bandied about as answers, and I am not talking about the "Does Searl have it? Does Bedini have it? Does Greer have it?" questions that you can see on this thread and elsewhere that I have publicly interacted, but what gets promoted in the establishment and in "alternative" circles such as what the so-called environmentalists propose, stuff that really is a huge misdirection from pursuing real solutions, distractions that include air cars, hydrogen cars, biofuels and the usual suspects of "alternative" energy. All of them are almost entirely inconsequential to the real problems, and none are viable solutions, not compared to what I know exists, but they are endlessly paraded in various corners, and the non-scientifically-trained are easy prey for those distracting "solutions."

It is part of what I call the layman's quandary:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

Those "solutions" and the assumptions that gird such approaches amount to beginner's hurdles that actively prevent the conversation from ever rising past those low levels. Free energy technology is real, organized suppression is real, exotic technologies and materials that would boggle people's minds are rife in the above-top-secret world. However, for those who peek into people pursuing such technologies in workshops and garages, there is a mountain of chaff for every kernel of wheat, and the Big Boys have the detection and removal of the real goods down to a science. This is not subject matter for the faint of heart, quick-study artists, etc. That is why I am going to be aiming to begin a high level conversation that interested members of the public might benefit from witnessing. I am not asking anybody to be heroes or scale the ramparts, but to just engage their hearts and minds and see if they can imagine the world that we can have, and soon, if enough of us only cared to imagine it. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[Tahi]

Here is an addendum to my previous post…

A big reason for my site's writings and my upcoming essay is to help the well-intended but not scientifically-trained understand the energy situation and how it shapes our lives on Earth, and what the elimination of energy scarcity can mean for the human journey...... [snip]

This is not subject matter for the faint of heart, quick-study artists, etc. That is why I am going to be aiming to begin a high level conversation that interested members of the public might benefit from witnessing. I am not asking anybody to be heroes or scale the ramparts, but to just engage their hearts and minds and see if they can imagine the world that we can have, and soon, if enough of us only cared to imagine it. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Thanx Wade I'm in the process of digesting your writings, and lovn it. What draws me is the way it is presented and concentrates on facts. I do find myself leaning back and wondering what if.... I would like to make it what is.

And fully understand as you have stated (from experience) many times. The information you provide is closley monitored and shut down as soon as possible. Before the public can fully/ half understand what it means for us.

I sincerely thank you and your colleagues for the work you do now and have done in the past.

PEACE

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Tahi.

The good news is that people who just write seem to be left alone, as long as they are not naming names and doing other things to rile up the Big Boys or the lower level predators. I still have my Internet stalkers, and some are likely professionals, but it has not been so bad from that side of the house. People who do what I do assume that we are being watched, and sometimes we see evidence of it, but they seem to only watch. Avalon has proven to be an oasis from the trolls and others who try to derail this stuff. I have some hope that I will be able to get that conversation going in a way that will be valuable, but time will tell.

Best,

Wade

[Tahi]

Thanx again... I'll keep reading, and watch this space.

[Hughe]

I often wonder how did I end up as Free Energy enthusiast. The Free Energy pulls me harder and harder as days pass by. Would the aliens will help us? I doubt it. Some of humans might get help but not the global scale.

Only practical solution I could think of is world peace and free energy for once and for all.
What if all the non-profit organizations, social groups put focus on ending wars and conflicts permanently on Earth? If free energy is being used for mass destruction, I wouldn't wanna even imagine that scenario.

I feel I gotta do something to bring free energy somehow.

Thanks a lot Wade for maintaining this thread.

[161803398]

On the rhodium and gold, I believe that you are referring to this stuff:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

I heard about his long ago, and have not investigated it myself, but not much would surprise me in that realm. Noble gases can have healing effects (Rife, etc.). Light and sound can heal, too. Of course, in the West, anybody sticking their head up too far on this stuff is going to get it whacked.

Well, its not edible. Here is the site made by someone else. But his name is never mentioned.

http://personalenergydevice.com/PED-Personal_Energy_Device.html

One of the interesting things he told me was that he had made one for a doctor who was an evil type and the thing stopped working. He fixed it and gave it back. Then it stopped working again. Another interesting thing is that when he made it he wasn't sure what it would do so he has everyone taking notes all the time. It does different things for me than it shows on the site.

He's had too much trouble with the medical establishment before many years ago, so he knows to avoid publicity.

He says its vibration that makes the healing effect.

[Yoda]

I often wonder how did I end up as Free Energy enthusiast. The Free Energy pulls me harder and harder as days pass by. Would the aliens will help us? I doubt it. Some of humans might get help but not the global scale.

Only practical solution I could think of is world peace and free energy for once and for all.
What if all the non-profit organizations, social groups put focus on ending wars and conflicts permanently on Earth? If free energy is being used for mass destruction, I wouldn't wanna even imagine that scenario.

I feel I gotta do something to bring free energy somehow.

Thanks a lot Wade for maintaining this thread.

Before we incarnated in these bodies, we floated in a sea of unlimited energy. As the veil of forgetfulness thins, we are getting over this imposed scarcity, and we know and yearn for that free flowing energy once more.
Pierre

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Hughe:

As I have written, most of us in the FE field took diverse paths to the milieu. It could be said that we were all trying to make a difference, and the roads eventually led here. It really is the big show. The energy issue is the overarching one for humanity, and free energy's impact is hard to imagine. Just bringing your awareness to the issue is plenty, believe me. Almost nobody on the planet is really even thinking about this stuff in a productive manner these days.

Hi 161803398:

The noble metals and gases have mysterious properties, no doubt. I'll buy the vibration (energy) angle.

Hi Pierre:

Yes, I think that many in the FE field have some deep yearning that they are reaching for. Many different cultures have names for what may be around the corner. We will see what comes.

Best,

Wade

[Jayke]

I've been doing a little more research on NeiKung (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12525-NeiKung-amazing-demonstration-of-Chi) and taoist internal alchemy and it amazes me how similar the principles that govern this internal science are compared to a patent I found online of a free energy device developed by Tesla.

the NaiKung master John Chang (a level 19 on the energy onion) says that everything on the earth is yang energy, the earth itself is yin energy...so we take yang in through breathing and sunlight, yin comes up from the earth...when he fuses yin and yang together in the lower tantian (below the navel) it produces electricity. He says in his healing work he'll only use 0.5% of his energy and even that is enough to create uncontrollable muscle spasms in his patients...2% of his energy would be enough to kill a man, inducing heart attack. He says many spiritual masters live on top of mountains because the mountain shape helps to draw the yin energy up from within the earth.

Nikola Tesla appears to have reverse engineered this kowledge to develop his radiant energy system, a device he claims produces many thousand more times the power than you'd expect due to it's ability to tap into free energy potential.

http://www.nuenergy.org/images/gif/img00001.gif

http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/tesla_energy.htm

In NaiKung they state that their are 72 levels of mastery...the number 72, as one of our avalon members keith hunter points out in his book 'lost age of high knowledge', is considered a sacred number in ancient geometry because it's a solar factor number, a mutiplier that links the microcosm and the macrocosm.

http://www.numberscience.plus.com/sf72.html

Taoist alchemy is a process where you sit in the lotus position, the body creates a kind of triangle shape. And then they process sexual energy through special meditation drawing that energy into 3 separate chambers within the body for purification, ultimately transmuting sexual energy into the golden elixir, said to bestow immortality (the ability to carry your memories and consciousness with you into the afterlife as you move on).

If an ancient scientist took what they knew about NaiKung, taoist alchemy and ancient principles of sacred geometry and reverse engineered and combined it with Teslas understanding of radiant energy and then used this understanding to build a free energy device. Wouldn't what they come up with look a lot like the great pyramid at Giza, with it's polished limestone casings (harnessing yang energy from the sun) it's mountainous size and granite interior (harnessing the yin energy from the earth) and the 3 chambers found inside (the lower chamber, the queens chamber and the kings chamber), purifying the energy within.

How much energy would a device like this generate? a city, a country, the planet, I find it interesting how it all ties together...I feel compelled to try and build a mini pyramid in my garden, see if i can pump out enough energy to power my home...if it doesn't work at least it'll look make a nice garden feature.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Jayke:

Yes, that stuff is likely quite valid. OK, here is my pyramid story. After our family took Silva:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

we were introduced to all sorts of mystical concepts (especially living in So. Cal.), including pyramid energy. My father built a wooden pyramid in the Giza dimensions. It was really only a wooden frame with plastic surfaces, and it was open at the bottom. The idea was suspending it from the ceiling over a chair, and the person in the chair would get the benefit of the energy. I am not sure how long that lasted, but the pyramid ended up hanging from the ceiling in our enclosed patio as an abandoned experiment. On a table a few feet from where the pyramid was hung, several potted plants were sitting, and one was vine-ish, with its vine hanging down off the table toward the ground. I clearly recall when that pyramid was hung. A week after it was hung, I noticed that the hanging vine had undergone an unbelievable change. The vine no longer hung straight to the ground, but about a foot down, the vine bent and the last foot or so was growing upward toward the pyramid, which was a few feet away and above the plant. I never doubted pyramid energy again.

It humanity breaks through its inertia and the global control mechanisms, I would imagine that a host of esoteric practices will become mainstream, including more becoming Level 19s. I doubt that it will be that many, but a lot more than we hear of today.

To your Tesla links, Moray is another one of the suppressed FE geniuses. Another very well-known tale, and a sad one, as usual.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Hughe:

In a belated response, war is a result of scarcity, as Fuller noted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

FE would eliminate scarcity, because all scarcity is based in energy scarcity. Wars are effects, not causes. Solve the cause, and the effect solves itself. I give a nod to transition strategies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

However, I have seen many people try to interest peace groups, churches and “environmentalists” in FE, all unsuccessfully. The Mormon Church threatened to excommunicate members who joined up with Dennis in his Patriot Movement days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel

But Mormons are apparently also one of the most influential suppressors of FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mormon

I found out the truth of “environmental” organizations long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#seabrook

So, if you ever hear of a non-profit that really wants to do good in the world and might be open to the idea of free energy and abundance, my ears are open. :)

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Just a brief note, because I can see dynamics beginning that I have seen many times before. As hard as it is for newcomers to believe, especially those who are beginning to see the potential of FE, almost nobody around you will want to hear about it. Everybody that I respect in this field began their journeys naively, and all of them went through the phase of thinking that their friends and family, or do-gooder organizations, or even their corporate employers (yes, I have seen that, and watched careers end as they tried talking up FE at the water cooler) would be interested in FE and abundance. How wrong we were. Not only were they not interested, we became this huge, hostile threat that they had to attack and eliminate.

It took me many years to understand those reactions, and it was not until being introduced to Fuller's work that I could fully articulate it: they were addicted to scarcity, and abundance would literally end the world that they knew and had devoted their life's energies into learning how to survive within. Those who have carved out their niche in hell do not want to hear about heaven. And I have watched many newcomers scoff as they ran off to go scale the ramparts or tell everybody they knew about the potential miracle of FE. It has not been easy to watch, and I avert my eyes anymore as they get skewered.

I have watched it happen at the highest levels of the environmental movement, by people who were on a first-name basis with the biggest names in the business (yes, environmentalism is a business). I have had my own experiences countless times with the so-called Radical Left, the Peak Oilers, environmentalists, and many others that you would think would be interested. No takers. They were all trapped in layers 1 to 3 of the FE Onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Again, not only are they not interested, if you mention FE to them, they go into apoplectic fits. I have seen the Venus Project and Zeitgeist lauded in this forum, but when about the biggest name in that milieu met with one of the biggest names in FE, the guy flew into a foaming-at-the-mouth rage when hearing about FE. He was a Level 3-er, which is where most of the scientifically-trained are stuck, if they ever get past Level 0.

While I can respect people who just have to find out for themselves and have to go get scorched by the dragon to know he is real, I just hope they keep my cautions in mind as they sally forth. I am not too interested in hearing dragon tales, however. I have witnessed and heard enough of that to tide me over for the next dozen lifetimes or so. :)

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

Hi:

Just a brief note, because I can see dynamics beginning that I have seen many times before. As hard as it is for newcomers to believe, especially those who are beginning to see the potential of FE, almost nobody around you will want to hear about it. Best,

Wade


Wade, I'm still with you. Everything you say about people's reaction to higher truth is true.
I have experienced it first-hand as an astrologer and in my early years wanted to convince everyone that if they studied astrology they would soon discover that the universe is not only different from how they had been taught but that it also offered incredible opportunities.
One could make progress in life without the use of force.
But I learnt that it's best to stay quiet about it unless someone of a higher level of consciousness came after me with some pointed questions. Questions other than how to find shortcuts to money and fame and luck, but sincere curiosity about the inner workings of the cosmos. Which always led to some simple answers: a pure heart, focused intent and sacred geometry.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Yes, that is partly why a lot of that stuff is called "occult." Many "occult" practices went underground because they had to (persecution), but also because they can be dangerous for beginners or misusers (to themselves and others), and so on. But the dark team also plays the "occult" game. None of that is news to you. It is not an easy field to navigate, and that part about staying quiet until asked is wise. A la the Michael Material:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

the positive pole of a priest is compassion, and the negative part is zeal. Proselytizing is classic Young Priest behavior, and a lot of them are running around in the West. FE is about the most proselytizing-"worthy" subject, but each person has to come to their own awareness, and you cannot bait people into going the FE route. Young Warriors too often want to get there via coercion, and so forth. FE is a field where angels fear to tread, and this fool learned more than I ever thought I would by rushing in how I did (with a little help from my "friends" http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice ).

Yes, if I had a "shield" during my journey, it was always doing my best to be loving and truth-seeking, and figuring that it was the best protection that I had, and even if it was not, I could only control my approach to the situation, and having a love of the truth is fun, although the awakening process on this rock can be pretty brutal, particularly when you are playing the FE game. :)

Yes, the wisdom of the masters is really pretty simple, but not easy to implement here in physical reality, at least during the Era of Scarcity.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Wade and friends,
Wade, you said above that awakening on this planet can be pretty brutal and I wish to comment on that. This is the central topic of interest, isn't it?

When I read that statement I realized something about myself. I am awakened. And it is brutal. The brutality of awakening is almost unbearable to me. I fervently wish I had never done so. I might still be relatively happy being alive if I weren't. The sad fact is that I do not want to help this society in any way any more because of it. Individuals yes, but not this society. I wait with bated breath either the time to act or the time to die. Although either would be welcome, I wish it was time to act. I have been waiting many years now, as patiently as I can. I have those I love that keep me here because I realize they need me. Otherwise, I would have given up years ago.

I have written many books on this subject but will never publish because I know it will make no difference. It will make no difference because most people at least in the modern world believe, for example, that yoga is the devil's creation. For that matter, most any esoteric or poorly understood body of knowledge, except for what science has condoned, is considered the devil's work. That attitude is unacceptable to me. And so I lay low, say little, and wait. I make sure I contribute as little as possible to society, for they do not deserve it. Make what you will of that last statement, I won't go into details.

Since I cannot forgive the world for its ignorance, nor for the pain and misery they have caused, I cannot lift my spirit out of the trenches. I cannot attain enlightenment because of it. And so I live my life on the sidelines, straddling two worlds but not part of either...

[Hughe]

Dear Ernie Nemeth,

Anyone whoever learned the reality of free energy, it's painful to watch everyday misery. Honestly, I often feel disgusting to watch junk cars on the street and the lifestyle itself. It's so pathetic. I've asked many many times for myself why did I learn this thing too. If I would have returned the flow of time, I would go back to the past before I learn about free energy whatsoever and stop me learning any of these stuff.

What I learned the only difference between organic machine and sentient being is to embrace grace and forgiveness. I honestly don't know what is love. It's superficial to me. Human civilization soon has to make a big choice either the darkness or eternal light. It really doesn't matter for whom who already awakened in this life time. I'm for sure to those people present life is unlikely end of human existence for their sake.

People around me really does not know what kind of person I am even family members. I had been alone half of my life still the distance is way too far from them. The funny thing is they consider me as a family member, try to convince me their lifestyle is good. Does it? Well, I do not think so. But, when I look at young relatives, nephews less than ten years so. I have to ask myself 'Why you guys born as humans here on prison planet?'

Sometimes kids - nephews - ask me about my age. I say I'm at least few million years old plus my age, then their eyes opens up. "Uncle, what the hell are you talking about? Are you serious. How, why?" A chain of questions are being fired at me. Then, I return all the answers flawless at least in logical sense. Strange thing is they listen to what I'm saying.

Today a twelve year old nephew asked me '...then, Uncle! how did you see your past lives? How do you know who you were in that memories?' I told her 'You have all the answers you ask already, you have to trust the eyes within yourself.'

Can our generation all get together and build good foundation for next generations? I'm uncertain. But, I do have my version of hope. Whoever bring out a practical free energy device, I'll use it and go for off-grid life myself first. Or, I might build it myself if I'm damn luck on it. I know I gonna die anyway. Awakened, enlightenment for myself is easy. Many many people left miserable society. I do not blame them. They did what their best.

I have this strange feeling that we might make it through this time somehow.

If I were you, I would publish books as it is 'What the hell, who gives a damn!' Even ten year old kids publish books and make music albums. The fact is when information comes out, it manifests by itself beyond its creator's intention whatever it is. Your unique understanding or insight about reality, nature, might help people. Creativity in any intellectual activities is God-given talent. Technically, it's not belongs to one individual. It sounds weird though but close to the truth.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

That is one of the most important posts that I have ever seen. That comes from a deep place. A wounded place, but a genuine one nevertheless. Maybe because I was raised in Southern California, I was fortunate enough to not see stuff like yoga condemned as the devil’s work. When I lived in Ohio, that might have been the case in some circles, but I never quite saw it.

The dichotomy between loving certain individuals (such as family) but giving up on our species, is very common, my friend. I have written before that every high level player in the FE milieu at one time or another gets disgusted with humanity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#disgust

It comes with the territory, I am sorry to say. For those on the FE quest, they usually see the worst in humanity. And I do not only mean the hit men:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

corrupt officials and kangaroo courts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

lying “skeptics”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

and so on.

But the primary realization of my journey, that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

is the one that I resisted for many years, until I had it beaten into my head repeatedly. What a horrible thing to learn, that you are surrounded by people who don’t care for anything but their egocentric existences. Oh, I have been there. When I went through the worst of my midlife crisis (how old are you, my friend? :) ), I pretty much stayed quiet on the Internet, because I went through the valley of the shadow of death in those years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

However, everybody who I know who is still active in this field and productive eventually overcame it. Back when Dennis was getting out of jail the first time, his wife (whom Dennis always said had a rougher ride than he did, and I will not disagree) told me that in their journey, the ugliness that they saw in people was extreme, but they eventually learned to look beneath that at people’s souls and learned to love humanity as it is.

I have written that that might be the hardest trick to pull off on the planet today. Not many are fit for that task. Dennis is, Brian O is, but I have not seen many others that are. Again, my mind is boggled at what Dennis has lived through, and he is still at it. When we were in Boston, I bought Dennis’s perspective (living under the same roof with a personality that powerful was quite an experience) that people cared, but did not have anything to care about. And Dennis had been through the meat grinder a few times by then. Well, when I signed back up with him in New Jersey ten years later, he admitted that almost nobody really cared. But here is the incredible part; Dennis knows that as he fishes for people who care, that only one-in-a-thousand will care, but he feels that the task is still worth it. He sifts through the mine tailings of humanity, looking for flakes of gold. He is a religious fanatic who just might call yoga the devils’ work ( :) ), but he also has a greatness of spirit that I find difficult to understand. As Mr. Professor’s widow told me more than once, after watching him in action, that it was like Dennis was not human.

I cannot tell you where somebody like Dennis found such reservoirs that enabled him to be who he is, but I know it is love.

If I may be so bold, you are going through a phase that we all go through. You are one of the reasons why I am doing this thread. For the awakened, it is a lonely, lonely world. For those who are awakened to solutions like FE, we are exceedingly few, as Brian O noted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

I remember reading in Autobiography of a Yogi long ago that somebody made the observation to their guru that the ignorant masses sure seemed to like their condition, and wanted nothing to do with waking up, and that it sure appeared to be an attractive condition. The guru replied that while on the surface it might have seemed attractive, those people slept the fitful sleep of ignorance.

For all that I have been through, I have never regretted my journey. Believe me, I have wondered what kind of cruel joke that voice was playing on me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

and it is going to have some explaining to do when we meet, but I think that I signed up for it, and whining about it I have not found to be very productive (but I have done my fair share of whining :) ).

In the end, all that we take with us is our awareness. While nobody I know of said that their awakening process was easy, not in this world, none of them would want to turn back and go to sleep, not anybody that I respect in this realm. Several times, if I played ball the “right” way, I would be worth many, many millions of dollars, but I would have never gone through the kind of awakening process to get where I am today. I look back at those splits in the road, that were usually dramatically thrust before me, and all the times that I could have taken the “easy” route and made a fortune and retired before I was forty. Compared to what I know today, I would have been a pretty empty person, or some New Agey do-gooder. I see it all the time with my pals who have some interest in this stuff. They spent their careers in soft corporate or academic berths, and are hugely naïve, for all of their good intentions. I see them, and I see what I could have turned out like, and I am glad that I walked my path, as agonizing as it was. I have related being in the movie theater behind Bill Gates:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

and my wife later said that I was probably looking at another version of myself (in a few ways – I am also a nerd, but I also almost went to work for Microsoft in 1986, but I met Dennis instead – one of those “lost” chances for bazillions). I will not disagree.

There is a lot more that I could say, but I gotta rush off to my 14-hour day at the office.

It really is an honor to get a post like that, Ernie. It is real. I encourage you to keep this dialogue going, on just this subject.

Hang in there, buddy,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Hughe:

Brilliant post, but I cannot give it the response it deserves right now. I'll try to address it soon. I will say this, however; yes, we cannot know whom our lives touch, especially when we are launching material onto the Internet. My work is not really "my work." Once it leaves my computer toward the Internet, it becomes something that will have its impact, no matter what I do after that, and that impact has everything to do with the reader, not me. When Tyler briefly showed up in this forum, it was one of those, "hell, it looks like that seed found some fertile ground that time" moments. You never know whom you will touch when you put your writings out there. I have quite a strong but small circle of cyberbuds that I met through my writings. Some I have met in the flesh, but most I have not. Some had their lives profoundly changed by encountering "my" writings. Some have even divided their lives into "Before I met Wade, and after I met Wade." Ah, the ego can rear its head when hearing stuff like that, but all I can say when I encounter impacts like that is, "there is hope for us yet." I unabashedly say that my life is divided into "before I met Dennis, and after I met him."

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

my wife later said that I was probably looking at another version of myself (in a few ways – I am also a nerd, but I also almost went to work for Microsoft in 1986, but I met Dennis instead – one of those “lost” chances for bazillions). I will not disagree.


I found the more integrated I became the more I met myself....there was a distinct time when I began to meet people who have my name (unusual) who went to my high school, (6000 miles away) who have regular 1:11 experiences...
when I'm not integrated (in other words, when I'm fragmented) I meet my polar opposites- people who represent the unexplored part of my being...either way, I'm far more open now to whoever appears than I used to be.
Even wrong numbers on the phone I am far more patient in my response, remembering that even if I didn't have many senior moments in my past there may soon come a time when I will.
So the older I become the more my attitude is shifting.
Compassion for humanity, compassion for humanity, COMPASSION FOR HUMANITY
How else can one have anything to offer at all?
Someone will lap it up, whatever one's art or craft.

When my farmer father was alive he told us children with shining eyes about the day he first turned on the light switch to feed his 12 cows.
What a miracle it was. Sometime during the late 1920s.
Before then he had to carry a weak storm lantern with which he had to light up just one animal at a time during feeding time. In the winter it often was dark at 4 pm.
There are still many areas in Nicaragua without electricity to this day, while across the other side of the border, which is a river, the Costa Rican homes are brightly lit, have telephones and even Internet access.
The longing of those Nicaraguans will hopefully manifest their dreams one day. That longing is step one of FE, as I see it.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thanks Hughe, I have taken your advice to heart. Maybe I will post some of my work on the internet one day.

Children are miracles! I love playing with them, being a child at heart myself. It is so sad watching them be transformed into mindless consumers. Its strange, some children are indoctrinated at such a young age while others remain relatively intact into their teens. But so very few make it to adulthood without being turned. I really like how you speak to your nephews, too. I feel it is very important to reach out to them with heart-centered truths. After one such an encounter with my girlfriend's daughter she said to me, "Ernie, sorry, but I wonder how you can know these things and be such a mess in real life." I got to her too late - she does not understand.

But her comment has stuck with me. And I often ask myself the same question. I should be well-looked after, in my mind - and perhaps in a way I cannot see, I am. Maybe being such a mess has kept me safe from scenarios that may have overwhelmed my budding awareness. Maybe I would have become full of myself if I were successful. Who knows.

Although I say I wish I could go back to when I was ignorant of the truth, I really do not. I wish to complete the process but I see there are obstacles in my path that I cannot find the solution to. It is the thirteen years of working on my stuff that I am sick of. At age 53, I feel I have little time remaining. I am happy with my life, when I remember to apply the skills I have learned this past decade. I am proud that I have resisted the herd mentality my whole life. I am successful on my own terms. It just so happens that my success is not of value to this society. When I leave this level of existence I will have no regrets.

I have also wondered why I have had no mentors in my life. There is no one I look up to. I respect certain individuals, yes. But I do not see anyone as superior to me. That may be part of my problem. Had I had a mentor to guide me, shape me, mold me I could have done marvelous things in this life. Then again, I most probably would have rebelled, since that is my nature. My mentor is myself - but you know what they say about the lawyer who defends himself in court (has a fool for a client)...

Yet that is who I am - the fool. Just like the picture of the fool in Waites Tarot deck, I walk through life in innocence and wonder, unmindful of danger. And when I do not see the cliff I just stepped off an angel holds me up. And the funny thing is that, like the fool in the picture, I often do not even realize I have been saved from disaster. This I have known about myself for several decades. I am ungrateful because I do not see what I have to be grateful about.

But I am grateful for the things I can see, like my good heart, my many talents, my strong healthy body, my loved ones and the difference I have made in many peoples' lives. See the dichotomy here? That is why I say I straddle the two worlds but am in neither.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I am sorry, but I have way too many demands on my time right now, but I need to make some replies.

Hi Hughe:

Yes, we are in a huge transition, probably the biggest our species will make, and many cultures have many names for it. According to the Michael teachings, we are on the cusp between the outward and inward journeys, and our species might not survive the transition. I think that about everybody in this forum is doing what they can so that we do. Yes, the mainstream treats us all as very strange, but usually harmless.

The children are our future, and they come in from the other side, so they are easier to reach on stuff like this. It has not been beaten out of them yet.

Hi Ulli:

You may be familiar with Seth’s probable selves. Jane Roberts met one of her probable selves with her probable husband once. They helped each other. Kind of mind-blowing. That compassion for humanity stuff is another way of saying that misused/overused word, love. :)

Man, that Nicaraguan/Costa Rican tale is near and dear to me. That divide is more of an imperial divide than anything else. What is today Costa Rica was far enough from the empires of Mesoamerica that they did not have an “advanced” civilization when the Conquistadores arrived.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first

They also did not have readily plunderable gold or silver, and like all of Central America, the indigenous population quickly died off under the Spanish lash. Because Costa Rica then became an imperial backwater (no mines, no more natives to work to death), it was kind of left alone, and that had a lot to do with how it developed. It was the only Spanish-American colony that gained its independence peacefully. When the next imperial rapist appeared, the USA, Costa Rica kind of bent over for them and allowed the Yankee imperialists a relatively free hand. In Post WWII Latin America, often Costa Rica played imperial buddy as the USA overthrew many Latin American governments and installed dictatorships. Even then, the CIA tried to assassinate the president who had been so helpful (because he kept granting asylum to the victims of the USA’s imperial depredations – See Blum’s Killing Hope). Like Yugoslavia, Costs Rica dealt with “commies” as well as the capitalists during the Cold War (which is partly why the CIA repeatedly tried to assassinate its helpful president), and Costa Rica kind of became the Switzerland of Latin America. It is also the most deforested Central American nation, because of its imperial-friendly behavior. But, like with the former Panama Canal Zone, being in the U.S.-sphere of influence provided many perks, and yes, energy and technology have been boons to the Costa Ricans. For the Nicaraguans, unfortunately, they overthrew the U.S.-supported dictator and tried pulling a Cuba, with catastrophic results. El Salvador and Guatemala also suffered greatly under Reagan’s imperial efforts in Central America:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#worthy

Yes, as Fuller said, energy is wealth, and that kind of stark divide is undoubtedly a hard one to experience. The most immediate and dramatic beneficiaries of FE would be the non-industrialized world. If FE comes from the USA first, we could do a lot to help pay back some awesome karmic debts to Latin America, for starters.

Hang in there, Ernie!

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

When the next imperial rapist appeared, the USA, Costa Rica kind of bent over for them and allowed the Yankee imperialists a relatively free hand.

Costa Rica didn't always bend over. And I'd like to emphasize the word "relatively".
In 1987 President Dr. Oscar Arias stood up against Ronald Reagan's plan to escalate the war in Central America between the Sandinistas and the Contras, for which he later received the Nobel Peace Prize.
The Reagan administration was ignoring Costa Rica's neutral policy on non-intervention in armed disputes. They wanted to use airfields
in the north of Costa Rica to fly missions into Nicaragua.
Because this was thwarted the US retaliated by withdrawing aid and imposing certain diplomatic restrictions.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Yes, I said “relatively,” and yes, they were not as servile as the typical banana republic dictatorships that the USA invariably installed and propped up, and that is why the CIA tried bumping off Figueres a couple of times, even after, by his own admission, he “worked for the CIA in 20,000 ways” in Latin America. For instance, Figueres tried talking the USA out of the Bay of Pigs operation.

Yes, after it turned out that the USA was flying Contra missions from John Hull’s ranch in Costa Rica, the Costa Ricans tried to get him extradited for trial (which the USA ignored). The CIA flying arms down and cocaine back was the backbone of the Contra effort, as you know, and one of their key airfields was in the backyard of then-Arkansas governor Bill Clinton.

So, yes, the Costa Ricans played a difficult game, trying to be a little buddy to the USA but trying to keep them from raping their Latin American brethren too badly. However, just like with the other nations down there, the U.S.-based fruit companies pretty much ran the show. As Blum wrote, Figueres was no socialist (about on the same scale as Hubert Humphrey, and was very accommodating to the fruit companies (obviously not wanting to end up like Guatemala)).

That record deforestation is largely due to poor farmers getting moved off to marginal lands to try to raise food to eat, while all the good land was taken by the multinational fruit companies and the local oligarchy. That is a standard Latin American dynamic. Razing rainforest to raise cattle for export to the US is also a large proportion of it. That is what I call bending over. It has devastated the Costa Rican environment (and they supposedly have one of the best environmental records in the world, at least according to academic, FE-blind, rankings). Nations that decide to reject U.S.-based corporations from dictating economic policy, like Cuba and Sandinistan Nicaragua, had a pretty rough ride, even though the standard of living of the average Cuban is about the highest in Latin America, as it has weathered an economic siege for more than fifty years.

Yes, Costa Rica stood up to the USA, sort of. Arias was a neoliberal type, and I don’t know about you, but I have about zero respect for the Nobel Peace Prize (Kissinger, Obama, Mother Teresa, etc.). I would not call Arias too clean:

http://www.alternet.org/economy/64544/

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00238.htm

Heck, no politician is, except maybe Mr. Smith. :)

Again, it was Costa Rica’s willingness to play ball with the USA that had a lot to do with its status. Dynamics like that have played out in many ways across the globe. Saudi Arabia played ball with the U.S.-based oil companies and, at least if you are an oil sheik, life is good. When Iran tried kicking out BP, the USA overthrew their government. Saddam Hussein was once a hit man that the CIA supported, but like Osama bin Laden and Manuel Noriega, once he outlived his utility, he got an image makeover from ally (or freedom fighter, etc.), to “tyrant,” “terrorist” and so forth. Their designation has nothing to do with who they really were, but who the USA needed them to be.

Costa Rica played ball, and it has provided short-term benefits, such as electricity and Internet access. I am not saying that their position was not difficult, especially in 1980s when Reagan’s regime was crucifying Central America, but you don’t play little buddy to the imperial overlord without bending over a little. Tony Blair bent over, big time, being Bush’s bag carrier. That is just the name of the game, and once in a while, a Costa Rica or New Zealand will stand up to the overlord, but I have yet to really see any of them standing tall in principle. That is not the nature of politics, not in the Epoch of Scarcity. If any nation really was run by people of principle, it might be a candidate for a haven for developing FE unhindered, but I truly do not know of any nation on Earth that is safe from either the Global Controllers or the local interests.

But back to my point: the divide in standard of living between Costa Rica and Nicaragua has everything to do with imperial dynamics (and I include pre-Columbian Mesoamerica and the Spanish Empire in that pot) and how those peoples adapted to them.

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

But back to my point: the divide in standard of living between Costa Rica and Nicaragua has everything to do with imperial dynamics (and I include pre-Columbian Mesoamerica and the Spanish Empire in that pot) and how those peoples adapted to them.

Excellent analysis, Wade, and your knowledge of the history of the region is remarkable.
I had a thought some time ago that allowing Cuba to sit outside the US front door like a beggar was also by design, done deliberately to create a certain dynamic, and which had the desired effect of building a consumer society inside the US by reminding citizens of their alternative.
But if I were to follow that logic further then we'll soon be witnessing that as the scarcity principle shifts into the US, Cuba is on the verge of becoming the next market, joining Central America. Tables turning.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Thanks. I started learning about the US and Latin America after the Ventura nightmare and I had been radicalized. If there is one thing that America’s rad left is excellent at, it is the documentation of America’s imperial behavior. Of all of my reading over the years, probably more of it was of a political-economic nature than anything else. Chomsky and Herman were my introduction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot

But I then began going deep on the pre-Columbian New World:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before

The Spanish Century in the New World:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first

and so on. There is only so much that one man can do in those realms, and as I look back, I wonder what I was doing on that front. I think that I was partly disassembling all the lies that girded the American nationalism that I was imbued with. But, it was not until I encountered Fuller that I was able to put all of my disparate research into a readily articulated paradigm.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

All of those links that I put above are to writings about ten years old, so my new essay will update a lot of that material. I never stop reading.

I was seeing the many facets of the scarcity-based paradigm at work. And FE can completely overturn it and usher in a new epoch of the human journey, one that might look something like this:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

The tools to get there are already here, and so much of it could happen almost tomorrow with FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

That a nation that rapes its forests and pollutes its rivers with mine tailings can be lauded as one of the most environmentally conscious nations on Earth demonstrates how far we have to go.

It was only after long years of studying rad left literature, for instance, that I approached them with the FE solution. While Chomsky, Herman and Zinn were all among my most gracious correspondents,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm

I could not get anywhere with them on FE, although Ed at least has given energy a nod once or twice, being the economist that he is. With the rad left, I have certainly tried, many times:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm

They have never gotten past Level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

So, while the rad left was one of the early groups that I contacted, they were far from the last. Rad left, lib left, environmentalists, Peak Oilers, New Agers and mystics, and so on, I went everywhere that I thought might have a chance to understand. Brian O rode the world, playing the Paul Revere of FE in the 1990s, and knocked on the all the scientific and political doors that he could, doors where he once was welcome, but when he began singing the FE song, all the doors slammed shut, and tightly.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#intersecting

Dennis tried the “patriot,” Christian and business routes, and I have watched others try variations on it. Greer did the Disclosure Project route, and so on. I played the New Energy Movement game for a while.

http://www.newenergymovement.org/

Every rock that I know of has been overturned, and nobody ever really found any fertile ground, not fertile enough to mount an effort with a prayer. I think the mystics seemed to come the closest (not the New Agers – there is a big difference there), perhaps because some of the most accomplished can become Level 19s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

My upcoming essay is intended to take another path, one that is less direct but something that I saw was missing from all the efforts that I saw: an engaged and aware public, not just about FE, but about how today’s world really works. I am going to try to help people think comprehensively:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

I really am not too much into the “conspiratorial” aspects of how the world operates. When you get offered a billion dollars to go away, etc., then you wake up to a lot of it, but really, the conspiratorial part is pretty small. How we all contribute to the situation with our actions every day is what I think is vastly more important. So, yes, a lot of the geopolitical activities have some subtle agendas, and the far right has been sounding the alarms on plenty of clandestine activities, some of which may actually not only be true but with the aims ascribed to them. The far right is too conspiratorial in its outlook, however:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

But the structuralism of the Left misses the boat, too. Both see facets of the whole, but fail to see the big picture, which is about what we can do if enough of us woke up, in a positive way. I am looking for Level 12s, or those who would like to try to become one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[OnyxKnight]

I think this is very insightful thinking and should be extrapolated out more often. There should also be laws of justice which is what this country at least began as a guiding principle. Things like psychology have no laws either. But act like they do particularly with all this coding. We recently made the pathological normal by removing narcissistic personality disorder from the DMS. By the same token until 1976, homosexuality was legally defined mental illness as was a woman who failed to accept her biological role.

My appreciation for this post. I am replying to post 90.

A quote from the post you are appreciating:



Only workable theory is allowed, theory that may or may not have a deep backstory of relative acceptance for certain situations and use. Since it is all theory, that specifically allows for the proper exploration of any so-called 'fundamental'. A fundamental may be judged unfit and in need of revision on the face of new evidence. Evidence which comes from the observation in the exploration of unknowns.

What's pathological, is how people (like yourself), easily cherrypick what laws to favor (current, or former), based on personal opinions on a certain matter.

In light of new evidence, have those theories (or laws at the time) change. Homosexuality never should have been considered pathological. Also, do you even know what causes homosexuality to begin with? In order for you to drop it in the pile of "pathological" crap?

[Wade Frazier]

Hi OnyxKnight:

If you are coming here to fight write4change, she has been inactive in this forum for nearly two months. If you want to challenge her perspective, it is your right, but I am really not sure how to interpret your post. Write4change was pointing out how homosexuality was classified as a pathology in the past, and how disobedient women were "diagnosed" with diseases:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine

If you want to reframe it in terms of theories, "laws" and the institutional categorization of people's issues, such as in the DSM, you are welcome to. It is part of the terrain that my work covers.

Best,

Wade

[OnyxKnight]

Hi OnyxKnight:

If you are coming here to fight write4change, she has been inactive in this forum for nearly two months. If you want to challenge her perspective, it is your right, but I am really not sure how to interpret your post. Write4change was pointing out how homosexuality was classified as a pathology in the past, and how disobedient women were "diagnosed" with diseases:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine

If you want to reframe it in terms of theories, "laws" and the institutional categorization of people's issues, such as in the DSM, you are welcome to. It is part of the terrain that my work covers.

Best,

Wade

Not here to fight. Challenge perspectives? Yes.

The way she worded herself, it seemed prejudicial to me. Felt a need to respond. And my response was explaining how something that was once law, has been changed, because new evidence shows that the law and the definition behind it (covering the content, in this case homosexuality, was flawed).

[ulli]

Oooops, tiptoeing out again....

(....that's what I do when two favorite people lock horns on slippery ground.
Let's hope FE isn't being targeted here in some obscure way...as the real victim of this looming debate)

[Wade Frazier]

Wade

Hi Ulli and OnyxKnight:

Yes, Ulli, FE is always going to be my goal, at least the intermediate one. Heaven on earth is really my goal, with FE only a means. My work is multidisciplinary, and economics always has a prominent place. For instance, the stigmatization of homosexuality always had a political-economic basis. Stuff like the DSM making it a pathological condition might have given it some superficial scientific veneer, but that was as bogus as giving women clitoridectomies as a “cure” for “hysteria.” There was nothing really “scientific” about stigmatizing those conditions, or deciding that they were not pathological after all. There is no such thing as pure science, and those kinds of abuses of the process are typical in a world of scarcity.

In my upcoming essay, I deal with those ideas at some length. The bottom line is that the margin for error in pre-industrial societies was usually so small that the political/social structures were very rigid. One bad harvest and everybody starved. Because of that highly uncertain energy supply, real freedom was very limited. Rising standards of living, due to relatively plentiful energy, led to the end of rigid social roles (slavery, castes, barefoot and pregnant women, racist mores, and eventually sexual behavior that was not directed at the “peasant’s road to wealth” – large families). We call it “modernity” today. Any explanation of those dynamics that does not have economics at its root is usually found to be wanting.

Those dynamics are understood very well by Peak Oilers and neo-Malthusians:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#catton

When I saw how well they understood those dynamics, I had the foolish hope that they might wake up to the potential of FE, but they are firmly, and I mean firmly, entrenched in Level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Kind of like what Carmody referred to in that post that began this exchange, the “smart” people like Heinberg:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

are the most unreachable of all on the FE subject, even when they feign interest in it. What was really bizarre about Heinberg and Ruppert in particular:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#ruppert

is that they both accept the inside-job angle of 9/11 as pretty much a fact, but cannot seem to fathom why somebody would want to suppress FE. I think that the hair-shirt mentality has something to do with it. Again, the scientifically-trained are the most obtuse where FE is concerned. They are really dug in, thinking that their scientific training actually taught them something:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

I have found that such willful blindness always has a political-economic basis. If a scientist begins advocating FE in his employer’s halls, it can quickly be “career over.” I have watched that happen, after I tried to caution them. Man, that was painful to witness. The vast majority stays quietly in their soft berths, fancying themselves to be free thinkers, in their prisons of mind and spirit, and will quickly eliminate the threat of somebody talking about FE. They are their own prison guards.

Gotta go to work the long hours…

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

There's a book about Royal Rife which really opened my eyes to what happens
when super structures like the health system or insurance companies
see a threat encroaching on their territories.
If everyone read that first, before entering the FE debate,
they might be able to make an attitude adjustment early...
like caution, caution, caution.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Well, you can turn on the Twilight Zone music about now. In the mail today, I got a book and a DVD on Rife, the first Rife materials that I have purchased in more than twenty years. He was one my early influences in alternative medicine:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

Since I had already been through the meat grinder when I encountered his story, it was also one of my early indicators that the medical racket works similarly to the energy racket. Rife was one of a long line of scientists who discovered pleomorphism and its relationship to degenerative disease. They usually discovered it independently, because to acknowledge something as fundamental as that would overturn much of the Western medical paradigm, so the pioneers are simply unknown, and others end up blazing the same trail over and over, not even knowing that anybody had been there before them, while the establishment keeps closing it off.

When Gaston Naessens discovered pleomorphic forms with his somatoscope, he had never heard of his predecessors.

http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/gnpred.shtml

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/rife.htm

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/05/louis_pasteur_vs_antoine_bchamp_and_the_germ_theory_of_disease_causation_1.html

You can see the suppression mechanisms at work very clearly at Wikipedia. Some of the effort is awe-inspiring in its nature. See how a troll (almost a three billy goats gruff troll) maintains the disinformation page at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston_Naessens

How that troll can maintain that page and never even mention the somatoscope is quite an evil feat, but that is pretty typical. Kind of like Brown’s Gas where the critics fail to even mention the transmutation experiments:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

Just like Mr. Skeptic lying ad infinitum about Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

and so on.

Most like them are on the payroll, but not always, at least not directly. They are profiting from the situation somehow, if only to protect the paradigm that makes them their money, no matter if the paradigm is evil. The ego explains a lot of it, especially in this world or scarcity. Many are very willing to sell their souls for some coin.

I discovered that the medical gangsters are more ruthless than the energy gangsters. I think it is because free energy is a much harder genie to keep in the bottle, and the implications are far more fundamental than “just” preventing and curing diseases, so more resources are devoted to keeping it under wraps. I talked about it in either this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#g/c/BACC03E294B890CD

or the upcoming one. The energy gangsters at least can dangle some pretty big carrots before they use the stick. The medical gangsters go straight to the stick. Again, what I found was that for every gangster taking out somebody like Rife, they were abetted by the masses, sometimes very actively, in “give us Barabbas” style, but usually just by their apathy and indifference and willingness to be herded along, often to their deaths:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings

That is one of the hardest things to accept when you begin understanding how it works.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade