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Servant Limestone
11th August 2015, 12:32
Hi freeknowledge:

Oh I should be the one who is sorry. :( I am forgetting key facts about this Project Avalon experience and one of them is the fact that our education is never been finished.... :) Even Wade continues to do it. We should keep our minds open and be willing to learn. I just got so tired of the social science stuff because I let all of these negative emotions take a toll on me about frustration, disillusionment and fear. That last one. That's the most important. Fear. You don't need to apologize. :)

I am actually happy that I've got somebody from the "developing world" and from Asia like you and I don't want to lose your company in this thread and our conversation to cut off or anything.

Of course, again, I thank you for appreciating that little thing I've made and my attempt to write "intellectualish". Hehehe. Now that you mention it, It's wrong of me to actually got too defensive of that work of mine. Correcting details inside it and in fact, expanding discussion based on it is something I am looking forward to happen. What the hell did I just do?!! You are actually helping me in my goal of getting at least one radlefty like me to appear here. Wow. I thank you for that. It's not like that my post there is going to be a popular piece of literature in a post-FE world. I am letting egoistic delusions got in the way of me. I am so wrong about that.

Maybe because I haven't slept for more than 24 hours now. Yeah. True. Goodness, Don't worry it's night here. I will be sleeping at the correct time again. I am trying to adjust my body clock actually. Not in a good way, I know. But it's just it.

Sigh. I am with you that we all have a lot more to learn. But as I said, heck, even Wade is continuing to learn stuff related to this thing that he knows intimately longer than my life. So, it's ok.

As much as I want to try to expand discussion into a more meaningful one, I am physically drained now. And yeah, I am still a bit exhausted as I said on the social science stuff. But I find it more tolerable now. :) I have to relax now and prepare to sleep. I have to go somewhere tomorrow.

Again, I thank you Freeknowledge for the amazing knowledge and lesson you are giving me now for free about patience, understanding and a whole lot more related to my adjustments. Hahaha. :)

Thanks,

SL

Wade Frazier
11th August 2015, 14:14
Oh boy, I go to bed, and look at what awaits me as I fire up my computer. :)

Hey guys, I love you, and your hearts have brought you to me (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), not your heads. You are a bunch of smart boys, but smarts are not enough. I know how rare you are, and I plan to take you along, plan to have you help, etc. SL, you can stay anonymous on this thread and still help, but as you know, it can get repetitive here. However, you can help take it in new directions by discussing that first half of my essay (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#midpoint), for starters. People can get intimidated by the material, by me, and the like, and they are afraid to post anything for fear of looking "stupid." I am not expecting anybody to understand like I do, and as my star pupil Ilie wrote, I am still learning. The learning never ends. Having a dialogue with me on the first half of that essay, or really, any part of that essay, would have been something that my 25-year-old self would have been eager to do. Just pick a topic that interests you, and away we go. I do not expect anybody to understand the material like I do, but that is not the point. The point is to begin to develop a comprehensive perspective, and you have an opportunity to have dialogues with me to help you gain it. You don't get an opportunity like that every day, and I would take advantage of it if I were you. Heck, I am very willing to be shown to be wrong, but I doubt that anybody is going to overturn my primary thesis: energy and consciousness is all! (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness) :)

Becoming a truly sentient species (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1) is no easy trick, and humanity might not turn the corner (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=945733&viewfull=1#post945733). I have known the sense of urgency since I was a teenager. I grew up when Silent Spring (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Spring), Earth Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day), rivers on fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River#Environmental_concerns), and the like were in the news, and I began my career in LA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), when its air pollution was awesome. I am a central figure in Dennis's books, and in one of them, he introduced me as a man whose first love was the environment. I was surprised to read it, and certainly never saw myself in that way. I have a love of nature that I think is evident in my work (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wonder), but humanity is part of nature, too, and I am one of them. My work is about easing humanity's suffering as much as it is Earth's. If I can find 5,000 people and get them properly trained, making this kind of world manifest (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) will be child's play.

Again, you are all bringing up subjects that I do not have the time to do justice to, but briefly… As you know, SL, I could tell that you needed emotional grounding in your first post, and just keep working at it. If you could have seen me on my journey... There were times when I thought I was insane, but I eventually realized that I was one of the few sane people in an insane world. My wife is a mental health professional, and she would periodically insist that I go see trauma specialists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#therapy), and they helped, with the most recent series of visits ending my monster of a midlife crisis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey). Dennis uses religion as his solace. I do not share his faith, which understandably turns people off, but they can try to imagine walking this path (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany) and see how they would do, if they were even capable of taking the first step. As I noted yesterday (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=987463&viewfull=1#post987463), all these years later, the peanut gallery in cyberspace can only recycle big lies about Dennis while they call my work "propaganda." So it is, with our benighted species. That is why I am only at Avalon, and Scott's forum (but it was a troll-fest there for a time (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?3653-Wade-Frazier-Energy-and-the-Human-Journey)), and my own. It is a jungle out there in cyberspace.

Freeknowledge, what I really desire is to hear you sing, not read your notes from social scientists who do not understand. I went to business school and had economics training (and once believed in the Easter Bunny (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing), too :) ), and as I have written recently (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=983814&viewfull=1#post983814), people with economics training are at a great disadvantage for understanding how the world really works. When economists completely ignore the energy issue or relegate it to just one more commodity, they have not just missed a nuance: they have missed the boat entirely (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peakoil1). Those kinds of nonsensical analyses abound amongst economists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists). I am not super well-read on Sen, but he seems like a breath of fresh air in the claustrophobic theorizing of white men performing their ideological services to the Empire. I have a homework assignment for you, if you are willing. Instead of notes on the scribblings of clueless academics, write a meaty post on your encounters with Sen and what you learned, and how it relates to the energy issue. That could be some good stuff. Choir-worthy, even. You can follow that up with the lessons you learned from the Free Software Movement, and what you learned from Uncle Noam and company. If you can also show how you made connections from that material to the energy issue, that is the gold that I am looking for.

As could be seen in my last post last night (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=987710&viewfull=1#post987710), Uncle Ed is in my pantheon, and I learned more from the collective work of Noam, Ed, Howard (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm) and company than I learned from any other single body of work. But I have been trying to get Ed to think about energy (much less FE) for 15 years, and have failed, and he is one of the world's greatest economists. Noam gave me a polite "I am not an expert" brush-off back in 1992, but I am fine with that. They don't see the big picture, not yet, not as the stupendous human beings that they are. Heck, Dennis does not yet see the big picture. He will never read my big essay. He watches TV in his down time. Brian was the only one in my circles who I think would have been able to truly digest my big essay, and I think that he would have been stunned by it, saying something like, "That is what I was talking about!"

I am lifting some pages from the Free Software Movement (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#utopia) (but Dennis was ahead of everybody (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs)), and Stallman is another one of the great who just can't wrap his head (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) and heart around the idea of FE. That is OK. When FE is delivered into his life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli), he will quickly begin to understand, but as with nearly everybody else on Earth, he will not begin to understand until then (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink), and it does no good to judge them (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1). It is just what it is, and it gives me great opportunities to work on my patience (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading)! :)

And once again, I think that everybody can see why Ilie is the chief treasure that I found at Avalon so far.

Time for another busy day. I can see that more posts were made while I was writing this one, and I have not had time to read them. Tonight will have to do.

Love,

Wade

Krishna
12th August 2015, 03:53
Wade,
You have written better than I can write about Chomsky, my first entry into your website was via your American Empire essay.

I will write about what I learnt from Sen. Also funnily Sen says that Jean Dreze (white guy) does all the hard work and he (Sen) gets to take the credit. As you know they are coauthors on the many of the books that I like.

Hunger and Public Action 1989
India: Economic Development and Social Opportunity 1995
India: Development and Participation 2002
An Uncertain Glory, India and Its Contradictions 2013

I also liked "Development as Freedom" and "Poverty and Famines: An Essay on Entitlement and Deprivation" authored solely by Sen


In Poverty and Famines Sen takes on the idea that famines are caused by Food Availability Decline, basically crops fail people die theory of hunger. In fact people who die typically die of infectious diseases due to weakened immune systems than from starvation. He argues that famines are absent in democracies and says that it is social pressure, press, that shame governments into acting. He proposes pubic works like for the poor where they are paid cash wages, importation of food as the way to solve the problem. Leaving distribution to the market. This works in the modern era but clearly would not have worked for any of the collapsing civilizations of the past. He especially contrasts the Great Famine of China 1958-61 with India's lack of famines post independence. We cannot forget Late Victorian Holocausts (https://www.nytimes.com/books/01/02/18/reviews/010218.18senlt.html) which pretty much have the same explanations.

Coming to other four books coauthored with Amartya Sen, they have the theme of cross comparing Human Development Indicators across countries/regions. A chapter from Hunger and Public Action is online comparing China, India and Kerala (http://www.polsci.ucsb.edu/faculty/glasgow/ps15/DrezeSen.pdf)(a state in India).

It can be summed up as, there is enough money even in poor countries to educate their populations, banish malnutrition to a great extent and to provide basic health care, these are the responsibilities of the government. Countries or states which have done a good job of education,food,healthcare have done well economically years later (see why I liked Easterlin). Sen/Dreze talk extensively about democracy, press, basic education, infant morality rate, u5mr (under 5 mortality rate), women's education across countries such as Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, Thailand, China, India, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, China, Korea, Cuba on and on. Our World In Data (http://ourworldindata.org/) helps visualize the data as does Gapminder (http://www.gapminder.org/) by Hans Rosling another white guy who I have great respect for.

If you read Human Development Reports (http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr14-report-en-1.pdf) they give you a sense of what you would find reading Sen.

The whole thing about poor countries have terrible Human Development Indicators because they are poor is getting cause and effect reversed. Terrible Human Development causes poverty.

You will note that there is nothing about energy in the whole post. That is because they assume it as a given, and further assume that by participating in global market educated populations can earn money/GDP/ultimately energy. Their books are all immersed in the Fourth Epoch and are an unstated assumption.

They are also very concerned about the environment. All in all I would highly recommend reading them. If you have time to read only one book I would say Hunger and Public Action is best, if you have more time then any one of the other 3 books is good enough latest being better.

This also answers the question Why is the whole world not developed? Because they are not educated/healthy for various historical reasons including colonialism, stupidity of the rulers, governments that did not care for human development etc.

Assuming the fourth energy epoch.

Wade Frazier
12th August 2015, 04:44
Thanks Freeknowledge. I just bought Hunger and Public Action, and it will go in my stack. I am not sure how to say this, but if the only writings that anybody here or in the choir are going to write are those that are "better" than mine, not much is going to get written. Trying to compete with me is not what I am looking for. You are a smart man, have read a lot of Uncle Noam and friends, and I want to read what you learned, what you took away from the experience. Sure, they will be stuck in the Fourth Epoch, too, but that is OK. I also want to read what you learned from the Free Software Movement. This is important stuff, believe it or not. This is about honing your chops. I am not going to attract people to the choir by just singing on my own. The choir concept is for a chorus to form. I may lead the choir for a time, but only until somebody like Ilie can take over. :)

Geez, I could write for many days on the subjects that have been brought up in just the last day on this thread, but before I go to bed, a little post on brains and energy. Today, it is thought that the first brain was possessed by a worm (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#worms). What are brains good for? They primarily run the complex coordination of an animal's organs, appendages, muscles, etc. Neural tissue is a bit of an energy hog, basically an electric transmission device. In general, the bigger the animal, the bigger the brain, and when vertebrates made it to land (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tetrapods), a new environment led to many new behaviors and traits. As amphibians gave way to amniotes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#reptile), encephalization was noticeable, which means that the brains began to relatively grow. The thinking today is that predators had to outsmart their prey, so they were the early encephalized animals. The Permian Extinction (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#permianextinction) halted the encephalization process, and when dinosaurs made their rise soon afterward, sauropods had pretty tiny brains (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dinosaurbrains), compared to their vast bulk. But other dinosaurs began to get encephalized, and the movie Jurassic Park played to that notion that some dinosaurs were pretty smart (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#encephalization). Some even had hands. Hmmm. If not for that asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction), Earth might be dominated by space-faring reptiles.

Mammals had relatively large brains from the beginning, thought to be related to their relatively great sensory requirements (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mammalsdevelop) of surviving on the fringes during the reign of dinosaurs, especially smell and touch. When dinosaurs left the scene, leaving behind only birds, mammals began their rise to dominance, and encephalization began once more. Elephants are pretty damn smart, as were their neighbors, the apes, and they were the only two big African "winners" when it collided with Eurasia (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elephantsuccess).

Great apes and elephants have passed the mirror test (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mirrortest), and on land, only a bird also can (as well as most humans :) ). Chimps are remarkable animals, intelligence-wise, even if humans never appeared on the scene, but we did, and our growing brains (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpbrain) are the most spectacular aspect of the rise of humanity. And why and how are matters of great controversy today. One thing that everybody agrees on, however, is that our large brains are energy hogs. The debate largely centers over how we got the energy to grow and fuel it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#braingrowth1), and what the positive feedbacks may have been. It is a fascinating area of study, but solving that energy riddle was the key to the rise of the human brain.

It is one of many subjects that the choir is going to kick around.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
12th August 2015, 05:55
Wade,
An Uncertain Glory, India and Its Contradictions is available in Seattle Libraries Central Library, Northgate Branch and at Douglass-Truth Branch if you have the spare time :)
I see what you are trying to do with the choir. Will do my homework, ironic considering that I never did homework all through schooling or undergrad and hated it in grad school.

Just one thought on altruism and global thinking. With the rise and fall of species and civilizations we have been selected for local thinking and my speculation is that altruism has been a downer periodically when Genghis Khan or the neighboring mafia shows up and passes their genes on. Partly explains why the candidates for choir are low in number and those folks are doing other battles trying to solve problems that they best know solutions for. Its going to be a long road...

Ilie Pandia
12th August 2015, 08:54
I have a different answer to the question: Why is the whole world not developed? My answer is: because of a lack of energy surplus! (surprise, surprise!)

When people talk about educating the world, or “better education” they usually talk about costs in terms of money. As far as I can see the costs of education are:

- raw materials, used to build the schools, the labs, the books, the furniture, the computers, the data centres and so on
- know-how: the technological processes required to convert the raw materials into the useful objects and the production factories
- energy: this is obviously what will power the processes mentioned above
- maintenance costs: things break down, and need to be fixed, rebuilt, replaced, modernized (more energy required)
- running costs: transportation of teachers, students, fresh water, food, electrical power (more energy)

So building a school and putting some teachers into it, is not enough. Much more energy will be required to keep the school running properly. More energy will be required so that students are enabled to go school and fed well enough so they can actually think.

There is another cost in educating people. And I think this is the one that economists and sociologists miss completely. They either blind or extremely naive...

Have a look at this chart: Energy use per capita per country

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Energy_Use_per_Capita.png
(source Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_energy_consumption_per_capita ))

Do you notice anything interesting :)?

Look at India versus US.

I think one can make the argument that an educated population will consume much more energy than an uneducated one. The life style of an educated human burns much more energy. An educated human will look around and demand that the resources be put to use to make their life more comfortable, to have clean water, shelter from the weather and then move to air conditioning, a pool, a luxury car? They will know they can demand it and they will want to have it! Uneducated humans can rarely even imagine something beyond having to put something on their table. They are not able to see that they may be standing on a gold mine... They may be rich, thinking they are poor and living at very low energy consumption levels.

In the scarcity paradigm you have your limited resources pie. There is zero interest to make even more people hungry for more pie! If anything, there is a vested interest to make people think they don’t even deserve the piece of pie that’s in their hands! They need to be kept in the dark, so that more pie is available for those “who know”, for the so called “developed nations”.

I am therefore very, very sceptical when I hear talks about “we need more education”. I have serious doubts about the motivation behind that speech. How many will be willing to give a share of their pie to educate other people, knowing that in doing so, those people will want more pie and will have the know-how to fight for it and get it! I even heard the argument: they need to be kept dumb so they don’t build weapons of mass destruction. What that told me: they need to be kept dumb so they don’t turn around and defend against us screwing them.

Because of this future cost of generating educated people, I doubt there is any genuine interest in more education.

Now I need to address education itself.

Education is not what is touted to be! There are many inventors and researches who have made astonishing discoveries without having a formal education. What they had was resources (as in raw materials and energy), that allowed them to explore their inner drive and curiosity and discover things! It is my belief that humans are inherently curios and want to learn, experiment and explore. If you make that available to them (via an energy surplus) they will flourish with or without formal academic education. They will organically learn math and other symbolic ways of thinking and communicating if that is what they will need to evolve. Nobody will have to force it down their throats.

I will even venture this idea: Give to a country all the energy and resources it needs, but NO access to education and also NO limits to what it can be studied, be it in medicine, or energy, or consciousness and watch what happens in a 100 years. I think they will catch up to and completely leave behind the “educated world”. That or they will be coach potatoes :). It is likely that giving them also the knowledge in the beginning will be a huge speed boost, but in the long run, I don’t think that is required if the energy surplus is there. It may actually be a handicap in limiting their toughts into “preset patterns”.

Education, even in the “modern countries” is not what education should be. Wikipedia defines education as “the process of facilitating learning”. That is hardly the case with modern education. It seems to me that a more accurate definition is: “the process of indoctrinating humans into very specific belief systems designed to benefit a few and maintain the status quo”.

In order words, education is designed to create “smart workers”, not free thinkers and independent human beings. They need to be smart enough to operate a cash machine and to desire the latest big TV on the market, but also confused enough to never wake up to the energy game played at their expense.

The argument “they need more education” (similar to “they need our democracy”) was too often used to forcefully educate a generation of slaves that would then be working in oil mining operations that will not benefit the newly “educated”. “More education” is also used to create a consumer market, to create people who crave products they had no idea existed, but be careful not to educate them too much, so they don’t wake up to what is actually happening. (The confessions of an Economic Hitman ( http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081) makes a very good point about this)

In conclusion, in a world of scarcity there is nice talk and rhetoric, but no real interest in genuine education, genuine medicine and genuine empowering of every human being. Why? Because then every human being would be able to see right through the energy game and it would be game over for the so called “Global Controllers”. So yes, a school here and there will be allowed. Small changes so we can get our “charity status”, but also small enough as to make them irrelevant.

Interesting question: how many educated people can digest Wade’s essay :)? What does the answer say about our current education practices?

Education is not all bad, and you can rise beyond the indoctrination process if you choose to. But it still stands on energy availability.

Wade Frazier
12th August 2015, 13:55
Thanks guys, for trying to raise the level of conversation here. A lot to respond to, but briefly…

Freeknowledge, when I was making my site that I finished in 2002, I was a regular denizen of the King County and University of Washington libraries, but for my big essay, I just bought all the books. Ten years in high-tech gave me the financial freedom to do that. I just ordered Uncertain Glory, India and Its Contradictions, too. If I am not in writer mode, it does not work to use the library systems, as I don't have the time to read it in the lending window. I have not used the libraries since 2002. We will see what the social scientists have to say. As you know, I am pretty familiar with British rule over India (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#bengal). It is one of history's greatest demographic catastrophes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2), which India is still recovering from. They raped India because they could, being the first out of the industrialization chute (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#uk).

My conception of the choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) is to get people educated on how the world really works, so that they can keep their eyes on the ball, which is the energy issue. Everything else happening on Earth today is noise and a distraction. If we do not solve the energy issue, and pronto, the rest simply won't matter. Humanity stands on the edge of the abyss (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth) today, and almost nobody knows or cares, focused on their immediate self-interest, in a world of scarcity and fear (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming). That stunted, egocentric perspective is typical of humans, but it will mean our doom if not enough of us are willing and able to muster the heart-centered sentience (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) to overcome humanity's inertia and the organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1). It won't take many of us (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers), but we have to raise our games.

When "visionaries" are locked into the Fourth Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4), as Freeknowledge noted, all they really think of is shuffling the resource deck, so that poor nations can get some of those resources that the rich ones enjoy (and "education" helps them exploit those resources). What those social scientists fail to realize is that there are not enough resources under the Fourth Epoch to go around, energy above all, with a bullet, and the world's poor have been actively kept there, and indeed, John Perkins's account (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) is a good one to begin to understand how the system really works. Perkins, however, was "only" in middle management, and likely had little inkling of what happens at the top, as my pals discovered (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), often the hard way (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make). Put disruptive energy technology on the market like Dennis did (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis), or be an astronaut who mounts a UFO conference, like Brian did (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), and you find out real quickly that the world does not work at all like how social scientists think it does, even the most honest and sophisticated of them (uncles Noam, Ed, and Howard (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm), for instance), much less how TV, newspapers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), and our history books (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more) portray it.

Physical scientists (including biologists and applied scientists such as engineers) have great limitations in their training, but they also are concerned with how the world really works, and if some of their limitations (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#orthodox) are taken into consideration, there is a great deal that they have to say that is important. The scientific ideal, like the ideal of democracy, a free press, free markets, an objective history (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity), and so on, is a beautiful ideal, but it does not exist in the real world, especially where powerful political-economic interests get involved, and nothing draws Godzilla's (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) interest more than the energy issue, even if the public is oblivious.

Most of the most enthusiastic readers of my work are scientists, but none of them are currently willing to risk their careers by standing on the global stage with me. Brian was really the only one, and leaving the Citadel cost him dearly (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#rough). Maybe one day. One scientist has been a fan of my work for more than a decade, and he helped edit my big essay (and began this presentation (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanityppt.pdf), which I finished off). During the process, he made the comment that I have fielded for many years, in that people around him simply cannot see the connection between energy and our Western standard of living. Believe it or not. As I have written, people with economics training (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists) are specifically trained away from that understanding, seeing all economic activity as some purely social process, in which matter and energy are only inputs to human social processes, limited only by market forces and money. To be polite, what an ignorant way to view the world, but John Rockefeller (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chicagoschool), among others, funded that way to view the world, which made energy invisible or just one more commodity that is easily substituted for something else when it runs out. When societies run out of energy, they collapse (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses). It has happened many times, and it has been happening in history's richest and most powerful nation (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#industrialdecline), ever since our energy consumption peaked (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert). The USA's middle class, which is history's richest and largest, is quickly vanishing.

As I have written, about half of American energy consumption goes to heat (and much is wasted) and about half to performing work. Each American rides on the backs of several hundred effective humans (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyslave). That is why we have the standard of living that we do. Machines perform more than 99.9% of all the physical work in the USA, and without fossil fuel energy to run them (and build them), they would all be useless. Money is only an accounting fiction (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#realeconomy), with no intrinsic value.

To kind of segue to Ilie's post, when he introduced himself in my forum (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/75-Ilie-Pandia-s-introductory-posts?p=131&viewfull=1#post131), he mentioned that the other kids in his communities did not see the value of "education," as it did not help them on the farm. Without the means to use one's "education," people do not see the point, for good reason, as they are faced with their immediate survival needs.

As I hope my essay makes clear, it was not until a local and stable energy source was developed (primarily agriculture (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3)) that humans were able to be sedentary and form communities, which led to civilization. Before that, humans only owned what they could carry. The only means of learning was by doing, observing one's elders doing something, and listening to the tribal elders, who were the society's "library." It was not until civilization and literacy that we have seen the steep ascent of compounding information and knowledge to flower into modern societies, which rode on the back of exploiting one energy resource after another, usually to exhaustion.

Yes indeed, energy surplus (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary) is the most meaningful measure of societal health and wealth. While places such as Kerala can spread their meager resources to meet basic human needs, and such examples can be inspiring, even they rely on industrialized world benefits to raise their standards of living. But they still use pig toilets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_toilet) there (but American factory farms (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#mcdonalds) are no better), to provide an example to those in industrial nations just how far they have to go.

On education and the human potential, Ilie is on the right track with the idea of giving people true wealth (energy and the means to use it), and standing back and watching what happens. Again, put FE in the public's hands, and this world (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) begins to quickly come into view. As I have stated many times, I do not consider this world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748) to be fictional, as I know people who have made similar visitations, such as world-class scientists who bring back Earth-shaking inventions from their interdimensional travels. I have often wondered about their educational process, in which the average six-year-old is more informed and smarter than anybody on Earth today. I could be wrong, but I get this sense that they are post-literate, and in that the clumsy way of communicating that I am doing as I write this is left behind, as infinitely superior means of communication and learning are adopted. I can barely imagine it, but the attempt to sure can be fun. They are obviously telepathic, but that probably only begins to scratch the surface of how they communicate and learn. The material in my big essay might keep those six-year-olds occupied for about their first week (or day) of class. :)

Time for another busy day.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
13th August 2015, 02:09
Thanks for the fantastic post Ilie.
Of course the ultimate cause is energy but thinking about proximate causes helps.
I am thinking about 12 years of education. Grades 9-12 require bigger investments. My education was in the best schools of India where the top 5% (not .1%) send their kids. Compared to schools in US I find that the education materials I had access to as very basic. No Crayons in elementary school. I had a heavy backpack of school textbooks, no real access to library. We had toilets, fan, benches/chairs. Basic computer access of 1 hour a week (that lab had AC :) ) We had a biology/chemistry/physics labs that were off limits until the 9th and 10th grade.

Most schools in India today lack toilet facilities, forget computers, labs. Kids walk kilometers to school, for the hurdles faced by kids to get education see 1 (http://blog.roomtoread.org/room-to-read/2015/06/when-landslide-came.html) 2 (http://community.malala.org/her-parents-burned-her-books-but-she-went-to-school-anyway-1051215553.html) and those kids are very motivated kids.

Even today most schools lack lab facilities and get a only glimpse if mobile science labs run by non-profits visit their schools. e.g. see (http://www.vidnyanvahini.org/index.php)

Look at the schools and facilities Tamil Nadu one of the states of India which is doing very well in terms Human Development. Look at the photos of schools in that state 1 (http://blog.eurekachild.org/visit-to-read-villages/), 2 (https://plus.google.com/photos/108383147645652256549/albums/5934878176371223857) Not even chairs/benches for kids.

Its cheap to educate kids, they somehow survive whether or not food is provided by school (yes India serves mid-day meals at schools these days thanks to Tamil Nadu state where it started first). School facilities are non-existent it is pretty much go into a building and educate the kids.


Women’s education explains the variation in child mortality better than GDP (energy) See (http://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ourworldindata_child-mortality-and-education-gdp-gakidou-et-al.jpeg) and GDP(energy) (http://www.bit.ly/1PlMgIp) vs education (www.bit.ly/1PlMcbv)

See linkage (http://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ourworldindata_the-linkages-between-female-education-human-development-and-economic-development.png) between women’s education and human development.

School attendance in Eastern Europe shot up from 35% to 90% (http://ourworldindata.org/roser/graphs/SchoolAttended_byWorldRegion_Since1870/SchoolAttended_byWorldRegion_Since1870.html) in just 30 years from 1910 to 1940 which is unprecedented, Why is that?

How do you explain Philippines doing worse in terms of human development (http://www.employees.org/~krishnap/education.html) than China or Korea both countries started out consuming much less energy (poorer) in 1950.


What explains Kerala, Tamil Nadu, South Korea, Singapore doing well in terms of human development when they were poor? Some countries for whatever socio-political reasons were able to provide basic healthcare, basic education, and food security within their energy budget. This explains their later success in the rat race of global GDP, this is a positive spiral. This is the story of the Four Asian Tigers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers) not market economies.

Yes Energy matters in the long run, but organization, politics matters in the short run.

Assuming the fourth epoch continues 100 years from now there will be much less variation across the world in terms of education, mortality rates, hunger etc..

If you give chimpanzees enough energy for the next 2 million years they have a good chance of turning human, but not in the short run.


Yes, altruism by countries in the current world is suspect. And without energy nobody would choose to be educated, after all if there are no benefits why bother? This is exactly the caste and class system, only a few shall read because there are only a few jobs (especially true in agricultural societies). If you read Easterlin (http://www.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gclark/210a/readings/Easterlin.pdf) in page 10 you can see the Catholic church educating people in Spain only to be able to read a few scriptures, no "science, maths, political economy and secular history” Why educate peasants who will anyway do nothing ‘useful’? The social factors also explain why school attendance (http://ourworldindata.org/roser/graphs/SchoolAttended_byWorldRegion_Since1870/SchoolAttended_byWorldRegion_Since1870.html) in Western Offshoots was better than Western Europe.

If we take out oil/coal industrial energy tomorrow we would instantly revert to agricultural societies and enter the third epoch once again.

Mean Years in School (MYS) for kids today is already 8.5 and will climb to 10 years by 2030, no matter how twisted and indoctrinated the education system is I will take them over illiterate people any day. Yes few can deal with Wade’s website but in comparison to no education it is still orders of magnitude more with education.

Ilie Pandia
13th August 2015, 09:53
Hi,

This is an interesting read about education (http://www.martinnaef.ch/index.php?menuid=8&reporeid=19), that at least for me, made obvious some hidden assumptions that we make. And also education is very, very subjective. So I am not sure what that means when I see it charted.

And I have a question about the open source software. In particular Linux.

When I had first discovered Linux in college I made a bet with a collage that it will never be able to compete with giants such as Microsoft, that it will always be the "ugly kid" around the block.

I obviously lost that bet and I am happy to report that in some ways, Microsoft is now the company trying to catch up and keep up!

So how was that possible?! With all the resources that Microsoft had access too, somehow the Linux community was able to do better... Where did they get their energy from? Any insights?

Wade Frazier
13th August 2015, 14:17
Hi:

Well, the vaccination posts are going to get knocked back a little. I am going to make a few posts on what I am attempting and what I need people in the choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) to do, generally before they join it. I really only have one goal with my remaining years: help the biggest event in the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) manifest. That is plenty for one man to work on, or the gang he hopes to assemble. That event will simultaneously banish poverty (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#desperation), permanently, halt the Sixth Mass Extinction (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sixth1) in its steps, end the destruction of Earth's surface and turn it into something resembling heaven, and all humans on Earth can live lives that make Bill Gates appear a pauper. Not a bad thing to pursue. It is not going to happen (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity) without FE making its public appearance, as nothing else can do it.

But almost nobody on Earth is fit today to be in the choir, and almost always because they lack these qualities (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69):


They care for something beyond their immediate self-interest;
They have already been awakened somehow;
The have some scientific literacy;
They awoke past the rationalist-materialist (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), scientistic paradigm that dominates today's scientific establishment.


Not many walking Earth today have those qualities, but I seek them, and specifically them.

I am not trying to reach the masses (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10), educate the poor, feed the poor, raise money, beseech the rich and powerful (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#beseeching1), enlist progressive (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm) and environmentalist (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists) groups, have people interest their social circles (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle) in my work, and so on. Those are all counterproductive distractions to what I am attempting, and many people think that my work is somehow about that stuff, which means that they do not yet understand. I am going to have to roll my own group, as the group needed for my strategy does not yet exist.

I am also going to get pretty specific on what potential choir members need to achieve relating to my work, and what the pitfalls can be. There are a million distractions, false leads, and the like, that await newbies, and if they cannot negotiate the hazards, they are going to fall by the wayside. I see it all the time. So, here are goals to achieve and pitfalls to avoid, as far as my work goes and becoming a productive member of the choir. I am going to put these into categories.

On my journey:


My journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), especially my days with Dennis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting), is well documented, not only on my site, but in Dennis's books.
I also carried Brian O's spears for years, our relationship is well documented (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm), and I became his biographer (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#intro).
As may be evident in my forum writings, my memory is nearly photographic, and I render the facts of my journey very conservatively in my public writings, as anybody who did a little digging knows.
I am a "what you see is what you get" person, and those who met and know me know that (including some Avalonians). I don’t have time or interest in posturing and other games.
Anybody who aspires to be in the choir and has doubt about the veracity of my reporting of my experiences and the experiences of those around me needs to do their homework. But for anybody who has been awakened in the slightest, my journey is not so unusual.


I recently hosted a member of my circle, and one of his remarks was that my story rang true to him early on, as he had already been around the block a few times, and the prosecution making faces at me when I was on the witness stand (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces), and laughing at me, was not unusual in the American legal system (http://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_american_nightmare_the_tyranny_of_the_criminal_justice_system). Anybody with any mystical talent and experience quickly understands that there is nothing about my mystical journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my) that is unusual, even if much of it is spectacular. Not many people ever had a voice lead them (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3) on adventures like mine. Anybody with some scientific literacy can easily determine that there was nothing about Dennis's heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) or Mr. Mentor's engine (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) that violated the "laws of physics," and I leave the question open of whether those two technologies married could produce FE, but we never had the chance to find out, as we were wiped out. Many scientists thought that we might have been able to (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#mallove).

I admit that some people in my circles are extraordinary, even unique on Earth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), so some of our experiences even exceed what the "fringe" crowd is familiar with, but for those who do their homework, our experiences were not so unusual, and this is an area where many go awry, and I am going to put up some suggestions and what I am looking for.

To state that FE is "impossible" is ignorant, even belied by some of science's greatest minds. Einstein himself said that empty space was not empty (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#zpf1), and his protégé thought that the ZPF (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#zpf) was harvestable and could provide virtually limitless energy. FE is not the sole province of the tin-foil hat crowd, and in my circles are scientists and inventors who went after it, and they all had hell to pay. Sparky Sweet's (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) journey was one of the more spectacular, and Brian visited Sparky in his hiding place (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sparky) in the desert the week before Sparky died of a "heart attack." Right after telling me about Sparky's grim and lonely end, Brian told me about his "heart attack (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130)" that he got after mounting a UFO conference and rejecting the American military's "offer" to do classified UFO work. Ex-astronauts and astronomers putting on UFO conferences attract great attention from those who run the world. That incident ruined Brian's health and shortened his life. In the same conversation, I told Brian about what one of my very close fellow travelers witnessed, as he was treated to an exotic technology show (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground). Brian nearly yawned, as a show like that was no big news to Brian, and he was much more interested in my close relative who was a CIA contract agent (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia) who worked for a household-name diplomat, who nearly tried to recruit me into the "business," and I luckily escaped.

That conversation with Brian was when our close collaboration began, and it happened soon after we were nearly run out of town (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#governor) because we tried to interest California's governor in FE, as California was in the midst of being raped by Enron and pals (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#enron). I also met Mark Comings that day, and a couple of years later, at Brian's home, at an NEM board meeting (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem), I heard Mark tell about his "introduction" to how the FE world really works, and his story was later published (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=811647&viewfull=1#post811647), and I heard from a scientist who was there when Mark had his harsh awakening, who said that it happened exactly like Mark said. I did not need confirmation like that, but I have had many confirmations like that, usually unsought, and anybody who runs in those circles for long (and survives the experience) knows about the reality all too well, even if the public is in denial or develops a tabloid-ish, X-Files-ish fetish about that milieu. At that same meeting, Mark talked about some of Adam Trombly's adventures (http://projectearth.com/founder-essays/view/15-the-scientist-who-was-rightunfortunately), and Adam's is the only story that I know of in the FE milieu that holds a candle to Dennis's. I now need to set potential choir members straight about aspects our journeys, as it is easy to get distracted by spectacular events, have fear and denial rear its head, and the like, as people miss the mark and go down unproductive rabbit holes.

To begin with, my story is well-documented, and anybody who does their homework knows that my public writings are highly conservative renderings of my adventures, especially my days with Dennis.

Dennis's story is also exceedingly well documented, and many aspects of it are simply undeniable. His heat pump (Canadian%20Ambassador%20James%20George) is the best heating system that has ever been on the world market, and it is easy to understand why it was the best. He also put it on people's homes for free (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), in the most ingenious marketing plan that I ever saw, and I still consider it the most brilliant work that Dennis ever did. He delivered thousands of heat pumps to people's homes and businesses before his efforts were wiped out with extreme prejudice (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle), in one of the more spectacular acts of organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make) ever in the energy field. And that was just a warm-up for what happened in my home town of Ventura (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr). When the dust settled a few years later, my life was ruined and I was radicalized (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books). I would never see the world the same way again. Although I was a scientific prodigy when young (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm), and got record test scores in college (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice), it was only after surviving my adventures that I began to go the scientific/scholarly route, which resulted in my site today.

I would not pay much attention to Dennis when he plays pitchman (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum), playing to the lay audience as he tries to describe FE technologies and the like, and even his understanding of the science behind his heat pump is limited. Dennis is scientifically illiterate, but he understood his heat pump better than engineers who worked for him (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#young). The last thing that I do is point to Dennis's pitchman stuff to make a case for FE. Dennis has built working FE prototypes (but he was never the inventor), and knows the milieu well, but he is not its technical spokesman. Even Brian discovered that trying to educate the public on the technicalities of ZPE was a loser, as everybody's eyes quickly glazed over. There is plenty of technical discussion of FE technology in cyberspace, and I would digest Sparky's paper (http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/1nothing.htm), for starters, for those who are interested. Bearden's stuff is a very mixed bag, and even I could see when he blundered in his technical explanations (and Dennis can blunder far worse), but I respect a lot of his perspective (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden).

The bottom line for me, and for those who snoop into the FE issue on the technical side, is that the brightest minds in physics are not quick to call ZPE "impossible," and only hacks do that, just as they called man-powered flight "impossible" before the Wright brothers flew (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wright), and the scientific establishment ignored and ridiculed them for five years after they first flew. Not long before he died, Brian informed me that establishment science's blindness and denial is worse today than a century ago. Brian should have known, after playing the Paul Revere of FE for many years (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions). He eventually wondered if humanity was a sentient species (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience), and I sadly understood his question.

I will now get into some aspects of Brian's journey and positions, as I found that very few people really understood or wanted to, as they tried to make Brian into something he wasn't, tried to twist his words to suit their agendas, and did an injustice to his life's work. Maintaining Brian's legacy is one of my tasks, and it is usually thankless, but somebody has to do it. I was the only person that Dennis and Brian truly trusted outside of their families, which is why Brian asked me to be his biographer and why Dennis bent my ear for days (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&viewfull=1#post694872) when I saw him a couple of years ago. Not only do I regularly have to deal with the lies and disinformation that pour forth toward Brian and Dennis from many corners, including from their so-called "allies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel)," but people rarely learn the important lessons that the journeys of Dennis and Brian taught them, or even seem to want to. But even people who sincerely want to understand regularly fall off the rails and disappear into the rabbit holes as they go astray.

It is time for another long day at the office, so I have to run. I expect to at least make a post on Brian and a post on Dennis, and then we will see.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
13th August 2015, 18:45
Ilie thanks for link to that article. Yes the educational systems of any epoch reflect the energy levels of that epoch. Energy determines the political/social system which in turn determines the education system. Our current education systems reflect the industrial era that we are in, and they deliberately constrain thought in ways that are not readily obvious to the ordinary citizen. My passion for education comes from the fact that the poor countries are still stuck in the education systems of the third epoch (agricultural), I hope they get to the fourth epoch because the tools to understand Wade’s website are simply absent in the third epoch. Also education allows today’s kids to get on the internet because they can earn enough to do so, and educated enough to be able to read. Illiterate farmers/peasants don’t have the money to get on the internet or to make use of it.

In India enrollment rates in school are at 90% and this will be true of even the poorest places on earth in a decade. If you hear Malala she says give us education, but not give us democracy. She is right in so many ways beyond what people understand. Wade doesn’t need money so if you have spare cash that you want to donate I would say the best use is to donate it to the education systems of the poorest nations. Malala Fund is not a bad choice http://www.malala.org/give/

Why does this matter for what Wade is trying to accomplish? Around a hundred million kids graduate from high school (12 years of education/pre college) every year the better educated they are the more chance that they can read Wade’s website. Since Wade has a 30 year timespan for the choir it is an investment that can only help in making FE happen.

Will get to your question about Linux, this is also part of my homework about Free Software/Culture/Knowledge.


====Added Later======
None of my friends/social circle can deal with Wade's website and they are all highly educated with college degrees. Although they wont blow fuses at the American Empire essay. But I still think 12 years of education is important to make FE happen. I consider Wade one of my teachers along with Chomsky, Stallman and Sen so that too is education.

Krishna
13th August 2015, 21:01
The Importance of Dietary Carbohydrate in Human Evolution (http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/682587) builds on/complementary to the Catching Fire / cooking hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catching_Fire:_How_Cooking_Made_Us_Human) by Richard Wrangham. NYT has an article. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/13/science/for-evolving-brains-a-paleo-diet-full-of-carbs.html)

Along our evolutionary path our saliva started having enzymes to digest cooked starches (carbohydrates), also diet drives evolution very rapidly as can be seen from spread of lactase persistence (ability to digest milk in adulthood) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence) in humans.

Wade Frazier
14th August 2015, 00:52
Hi Freeknowledge.

It is not very often that I bookmark an article (or scientific paper, in this instance), but that was a great paper (http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/682587), and I may well write about it soon. One of the points that I wanted to write about recently is that what I want to impart to my readers is that science is almost more fascinating for the questions that scientists propose, not the answers. Cooking likely played a big role in the rise of humanity. Fire certainly did (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1). One thing is for sure: the five-to-seven million-year trajectory from the last common ancestor with chimpanzees to modern humans is the most dramatic of any animal, not only biologically, but the tools, the culture, etc. Quite a trip, and it was always primarily about energy and consciousness (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness), as usual. :)

Homo erectus appeared about two million years ago, with dramatic anatomical changes from its ancestors. Wrangham thinks that fire and cooking (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cooking) did it, but there are other hypotheses. Again, it is a very fascinating subject, and analyzing the genetic evidence for salivary amylase is another great way to investigate the subject.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
14th August 2015, 02:12
My favorite part of the big essay by Wade is this


The rise of humans was dependent on numerous factors, but the most important may have been the ability to increase humanity’s collective knowledge. If each invention during human history had to be continually reinvented from scratch, there would not be people today. The cultural transmission of innovations was critical for growing humanity’s collective technology, skills, and intelligence.

Education in the fourth epoch is merely the cultural (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture) transmission of the older eras, which parallels culture in animals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_culture). Thinking even more deeply procreation is the transmission of knowledge and behavior via the DNA.

Wikipedia defines
[Animal Culture] involves the social transmittance of a novel behavior, both among peers and between generations. This behavior is shared by a group of animals, but not necessarily between separate groups of the same species.

I mentioned that education and culture is not transmitted to out-groups (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988388&viewfull=1#post988388), e.g. Lower Castes in India, African Americans in US, women in general etc. etc..


All this because culture and education are the source of power, energy. If one wants to exclude people from power this is one of the most important leverage points. The story of Ekalavya (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekalavya) from Hindu mythology has particular resonance with me. In summary Ekalavya was ‘put in his place’ by taking away his ability to use his skill.

The modern way of putting people in place apart from outright violence is to make education unavailable or expensive. Therefore you can see that while Europe and its offshoots were becoming literate the colonized peoples stayed uneducated (http://ourworldindata.org/roser/graphs/SchoolAttended_byWorldRegion_Since1870/SchoolAttended_byWorldRegion_Since1870.html). Guilds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild) and priesthood (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest) are variations of the same game.

This is why the world is not educated today, even though it does not cost much either in terms of money or energy. It is made expensive by putting barriers like Copyright which made most of the world’s knowledge unavailable to me in India. Another way is via trade secrets where knowledge is created but does not come out. Then there are Patents which stop people using knowledge.

Before we go any further Did You Say “Intellectual Property”? It's a Seductive Mirage (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html) is required reading.
As is Misinterpreting Copyright—A Series of Errors (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.en.html) both written by Richard Stallman

Are we back from reading them? Good, you might also want to read Free Software, Free Society (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf)

There is a good reason for copyright it allows authors to earn a living, otherwise they have to depend on grants from state or private parties. Therefore it makes sense to allow authors to have exclusive rights to copying their work (lets say book) therefore they can then monetize their book by selling copies of their book. Society is giving up its right to copy in return for giving authors an incentive. What happens when a book is very popular? We are overpaying the author which as society we don’t have to, since the book would be produced even if the author earned less money. What about a book that is not selling at all? The author has no incentive in such a book and we as society should get back our rights. Now it is very hard to figure out how much incentive is enough etc… so a good compromise is to limit the time period say 10 years and also limit it geographically. If the author does not think that their book will sell in India but will sell in Romania why should Indians not copy the book locally?

Without any cost to the author(s) society can benefit from copying books where there is no market for it. e.g. India can benefit from the knowledge in books of the world but they don’t have money (I don’t mean energy, I mean US dollars) to buy them, what they do have is enough energy/resources to make copies of them and benefit from that knowledge.

How is this different from taking real physical property? Because knowledge is a non-rival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_(economics)) Nina Paley has an awesome explanation Copying Is Not Theft (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4) . I am sure Wade has heard this before.

Question Copyright (http://questioncopyright.org/) is very good resource on these questions.

To share and learn by imitation is the definition of culture and education, in some senses it is one of the important parts of being human. As Wade so eloquently writes
The cultural transmission of innovations was critical for growing humanity’s collective technology, skills, and intelligence.

Let me say this to the best teacher I every had. Hats off. Even the best thinkers about these issues can only come close to understanding and explaining these issues as Wade does.


I welcome questions, this is a big topic. Will get to the Linux question in another post.

Wade Frazier
14th August 2015, 06:32
Hi all.

Here is the Epochal perspective on several issues that have arisen here lately, which will necessarily be energy-centric. Education is very much an energy issue. The proper way to see anything like that is that the human body takes energy to run, and any "leisure" activity needs an energy surplus to fund it, and that includes education. Education is "idle time," when the students and teachers are not involved in subsistence practices, and it has been seen as something as societally valuable, so it is subsidized by the society's energy surplus (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus).

Slavery is strictly a Third Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) institution, which ended when the Fourth Epoch began (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slaveryend), and when using people for such brutal ends, education makes no sense for them, other than to condition their minds to accept their bondage. That was why the only book that African-American slaves were allowed to read was the Bible (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#southseas), which justified slavery, being the thoroughly Third Epoch work (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tales) that it was. The energy surplus generated by Third Epoch means, mainly agriculture and deforestation, is thin and can only support a small non-subsistence class (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#divinity). Hence, as Freeknowledge noted, reading and education was very limited and proscribed in the Third Epoch. It only began spreading to the masses when the energy surplus was great enough, and the proto-industrial rise of Europe (Epoch 3.5, on the Wade Scale :) ) (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal35) was accompanied by increasing literacy and education.

But even that "education" was subject to many constraints and still is, as the "educated" are still supposed to fulfil societal roles that can be considered far less than truly free. Much of my work is devoted to the "education (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm)" that I received that was total hogwash, designed to control what I thought. I broke free of a great deal of that, but only by being radicalized (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books) in my attempts to initiate a transition to the Fifth Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5).

Formal laws were a Third Epoch phenomenon, which arose with civilization, and early laws were notable for their brutality (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#akkadian), which mirrored the times. Elites are a Third and Fourth Epoch phenomenon, and they will go the way of dinosaurs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction) and slavery with the Fifth Epoch, and they know it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear), which is why the organized suppression of FE (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) is as pronounced as it is.

Although Dennis has never seen it this way, his Systems For Savings (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs) program, to put energy technology on people's homes for free, was a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch. So is the Free Software Movement. I lift some of the Free Software Movement's ideas in my work (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#utopia). Richard Stallman is a great, brilliant man, but is stuck firmly in the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), with his legalistic and scientistic views. Patents, copyrights, trademarks, and the like are exchange artifacts of the Third and Fourth Epochs, especially the Fourth, and will become obsolete in the Fifth Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), and I would expect that Richard would quickly realize it in the early stages of the Fifth Epoch. He is a genius, and would quickly see it.

My work is really about helping people, especially the choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), think in Fifth Epoch terms while we are still in the Fourth, to help the Fifth manifest.

Pre-industrial nations that are educating their populaces are getting boosted by nations in the Fourth Epoch, and aspiring to Fourth Epoch ideals while they are largely in the Third Epoch, economically. This is why we see the demographic transition (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic) happening in all developing nations except the poorest in Africa.

Just today, I was reading about black market goods and services around the world (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-13/1300-tiger-penis-800k-snipers-complete-black-market-price-guide). It is grim stuff, but not one of them will survive in the Fifth Epoch. Warfare has always been rooted in scarcity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warreason1), and resource scarcity in particular, and that is something else that will disappear in the Fifth Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacekeeping), and the military knows it, which is why they have often been very active in the organized suppression of FE (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent) (and UFOs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent)).

When my students learn to don those Epochal lenses more often, a lot becomes simple and clear that might seem confusing when viewed through other lenses.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Servant Limestone
14th August 2015, 12:11
Hi guys:

I love you all. I just want to say I'm sorry for being an embarrassment for all of you. Looks like my late actions of mine here just proved that Wade is right in asking me to do the grounding activities more. Hahaha. :)

Looks like freeknowledge is going at it now. I envy you. I still feel drained... a little bit, but thankfully, I am going to have a job starting in September 14, 2015. That raised my spirits for a bit. I am so lucky that I got a job that I actually thought I can just confidently do, not noticing that my job is something with a very good starting pay compared to other positions that I happen not to apply in this big local company. I just did it and here we go, I am going to be very busy next week preparing for meeting the employment requirements so far.

I'll make an attempt of trying to expand the current discussion that freeknowledge is doing right now in the coming days, if I can. It's an amazing discussion. But as you said Wade, the first half of the essay is going to be something a bit challenging for me to discuss, but I'll try. I'll do it. :)

So that's it for now.

Thanks,

SL

Wade Frazier
14th August 2015, 13:19
Hey SL, good luck with the job. "Leisure" time is over for now. :) Write when you can write something good, and stay grounded! :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th August 2015, 15:33
OK, a little on Brian. Again, carrying his spears was among my life's greatest honors (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures). What a great man, and I miss him. He was ahead of his time, writing about space satellites before Sputnik launched (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), which befuddled his teacher and classmates. His gifts for math and science saw him get his doctorate in astronomy at Berkeley, apply to become an astronaut, and amazingly get the job. As with my father (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary), they only took the best and brightest during the Space Race. Brian later learned that he got the astronaut job because Wernher von Braun had big Mars dreams (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#vonbraun), and Brian was a Mars expert, at least as expert as anybody could be in the 1960s. His astronaut candidate interview has got to be one of the most amazing job interviews ever. Brian is still the only person in history who was publicly and officially asked to go to another planet. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall to see Brian, in his suit and tie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O'Leary#/media/File:Brian_todd_oleary_nasa_bio_photo.jpg), sitting across from the panel and being asked those questions (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#mars). He must have staggered out of that interview.

In reading Brian's books, his personality is evident, and he really was not astronaut material. Among other issues, such as not being a natural pilot, he was too much of a free spirit for the command structure at NASA, which is evident in his accounts of astronaut life in The Making of an Ex-Astronaut. He then became something of an academic vagabond, first working with Carl Sagan at Cornell (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after) (but also protesting the wars in Southeast Asia (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#protest)), and bouncing around academia, but like with NASA, at the very top, such as at Cal Tech and Princeton (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill), where he advocated asteroid mining and space colonies. Brian became very politically active in the early 1970s and became an advisor to presidential candidates (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall). As usual, when Brian played, he played at the top. When he wrote op eds, they were in The New York Times. When he wrote scientific papers, they were published in Science and Nature. He became quite the environmentalist and energy visionary early on, and helped kill Nixon's plans of putting a thousand nuclear power plants in the USA by the year 2000. Brian became a NASA gadfly (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#protest), and some of his astronaut colleagues hated him and challenged him publicly.

Brian taught Physics for Poets at Princeton, which reflected his man-of-the-people nature and who did not like the straightjacket of establishment science, even before he had his mystical awakening (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote) performing the same exercise that I did five years previously. Then he was ruined as an establishment scientist, although it would be another decade before his final exit, after he lost his job because he refused to work on Star Wars (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#saic).

Then Brian began exploring the fringes full time, but he did it as a scientist (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#frontiers), not some New Age (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage) guru. Because of his stature and approachability, he was besieged by people trying to enlist him for their causes, to give them credibility and use him as some sort of mascot. As Brian was getting his feet wet in the fringes, I was on my wild ride that soon wrecked my life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting), and our paths overlapped numerous times (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary) before we finally met (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet).

Brian nearly died the year after we first met (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack), after he hosted a UFO conference and rejected an "offer" by the American military to do classified UFO work (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130). During Brian's exploration of the fringes, he often got in over his head, and not just from a murder attempt by the MIC (they excel at that (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#jfk)), but he lent his efforts and even name at times to people and projects of dubious merit, such as the Face on Mars issue (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#new), but the one that hounded him to the grave and beyond was publicly questioning whether NASA really landed men on the moon. It became a huge political football that eclipsed everything else about him, and soon before he died, I had him write what truly became his last word on the subject (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement). But neither side of the debate let Brian gracefully exit the scene. If Brian had done his homework, like I had (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo), he would have realized that the "faked moon landing (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#apollo)" evidence was thin to non-existent, and none of it really supported the idea that the moon landings were faked, and a mountain of evidence supported the idea of genuine manned moon landings. Unfortunately, there are many areas like that to draw in the unwary, gullible, and the undiscerning, and Brian found himself sucked into those issue as some kind of fringe celebrity. But Brian had good reason to doubt the official story on space matters, after his near-fatal encounter with the military. The "skeptics" scoff, but they are professional liars (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest) and cogs in the machinery of establishment science, licking the hand that feeds them. When a leading space "skeptic" tried to debunk the idea that Brian was asked to go to Mars (after his NASA bio was published, and the astronaut corps had no issue with Brian's Martian credentials (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#biographies)), I was stunned at how slipshod and stupid his effort was, but it only further confirmed what I already knew about the "skeptics." (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends)

When exploring the fringes, Brian always took the conservative scientist's approach, but his colleagues, the fringe crowd, and even the skeptics used him as a political football, and his rather tame statements were blown all out of proportion by people trying to score political points. For instance, Brian never said that the Face on Mars was artificial, but that the evidence that it might be was impressive enough that NASA should specifically target it when it returned to Mars with better cameras, and it did. I called and talked to Brian as he was in the midst of downloading that image from the 1998 flyby. He never said that the moon landings were faked, but that there might have been some tiny chance that they were, because of Space Race pressures on NASA. It was little more than some open speculation, but he was used as a political football ever since. The tinfoil hat crowd always tried to co-opt him into their causes, and the "skeptics" were only too happy to ridicule Brian, but neither side was really interested in the truth, but grinding their self-interested axes.

Brian discovered the hard way that as his search for truth and planetary healing became the most ardent, he was pushed further and further away from the Establishment, and he died in exile in South America as a voice in the wilderness.

Brian and I became colleagues because there are not many like us out there. There are not many like Mark Comings (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=811647&viewfull=1#post811647), Adam Trombly (http://projectearth.com/founder-essays/view/15-the-scientist-who-was-rightunfortunately), Sparky Sweet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal), or Dennis. People who have been on the FE high road and survived with their sanity intact are few and far between, and we both knew it. That is partly what attracted us to each other (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#attracted), and our all-too-rare personal integrity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn), which is required to survive on the high road for long. Brian became something of an FE spokesman, and I loved to help him ascend the podium so that he could hold forth. I could never do what he and Dennis did, being the introverted semi-nerd that I am, and I preferred to stay in the background. Both of them were run out of the USA for their trouble, Brian in fear for his life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland), and Dennis should be dead dozens of times over. If it was not the mob trying to kill Dennis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#mafia1), it was prison officials (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mistakes), VA negligence (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#va), and murder attempts from his "allies." The energy advisor to the sitting president (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&viewfull=1#post694872) was one of Dennis's biggest fans, but that meant nothing when the robber barons and other big players got involved. Brian only survived one murder attempt (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ufo3) that I am aware of, but one was plenty, and it wrecked his health and shortened his life.

From his days of political activism in the 1970s, Brian was keenly aware of the energy issue's importance, and he gradually awoke to the FE milieu's reality, so that by the time that I told him about my pal's underground exotic technology show in 2001 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), he nearly yawned. I carried his and Dennis's spears through several FE efforts, and finally realized that they did not have a prayer of success (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10). There is not enough personal integrity in the masses for an approach like that, and when I mentioned my "choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir)" idea to Dennis and Brian, they both instantly realized that it was something different, and Brian was planning on promoting my approach (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852) just before he died. Not many people really have an inkling of what I am attempting, and Brian understood and would have been stunned by my big essay. I expect my choir-building effort to start slowly, as attaining the awareness that I think is needed will be no easy process, especially for people who have not been through the meat grinder of the FE high road. But I only need one-in-a-million for my plan to work, and I have devoted the rest of my lifetime's "spare" time to finding and training those people, and I already found some, and training has commenced. I know what I am looking for (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69).

Time for work, and I will now have some more time to write in the coming weeks, with the hurricane in my day job temporarily abating. Next up is a post on Dennis, and I will likely write a summary post after that.

Best,

Wade

ulli
14th August 2015, 16:05
I knew nothing about Brian O'Leary when I met him in 2005 or 2006.
I heard him give a talk at a Costa Rican Unity church, about Free Energy.
I had gone there basically to hear a talk by Nick Cook, an Englishman, editor of Jane's Weekly magazine, and the author of The Hunt for Point Zero,
and Brian was the other half of the presentation.

At the time I was friends with the people who were introducing Brian to Costa Rica,
before he decided against living here and chose to go to Ecuador.
So I got to meet him a few more times, like a special lunch hosted in his honour,
and later again at a hotel seminar given by the Costa Rican Water Authority, where he was invited to give a talk on energy.
He was really rather candid then, and I was amazed at his courage at spilling the beans re. the hidden elite.
Here is a picture taken that evening of Brian and myself, which I can only now fully appreciate.

The strange thing then was that I was prompted by an inner voice, or intuition, to start a conversation about the cause of Dr. John Mack's death, wondering what Brian's thoughts were. At the time I had no idea that Brian even knew him at all.
I was surprised at the vehemence of his reply: "He was murdered!!!"

Krishna
14th August 2015, 22:53
This is why we see the demographic transition (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic) happening in all developing nations except the poorest in Africa.


From demographic research (http://www.oeaw.ac.at/wic/fileadmin/user_upload/infoFiles/Popnet46-web.pdf) done at Wittgenstein Centre for Demography and Global Human Capital (http://www.oeaw.ac.at/wic/) "the stalled fertility decline around 2000 was associated with a stalled improvement in the education of earlier female cohorts that was a likely consequence of the Structural Adjustment Programs of the 1980s during which education spending was cut drastically"

Krishna
15th August 2015, 09:14
When I had first discovered Linux in college I made a bet with a collage that it will never be able to compete with giants such as Microsoft, that it will always be the "ugly kid" around the block.
So how was that possible?! With all the resources that Microsoft had access too, somehow the Linux community was able to do better... Where did they get their energy from? Any insights?


This has to do with economics, creativity, and the importance of commons.

if you price something too high competitors will see profits and undercut you, or your customers will build their own.

The most sophisticated companies on earth, Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Amazon, or any other big companies in the Silicon Valley uses Linux not Microsoft. Why? Linux is cheap and can be customized. And since it is not your core business you give it away. Students learn Linux is order to gain skills, just like everybody learns English.

Bill Gates was smart about sharing windows saying "They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect” This is the real reason why Microsoft has staying power. If there was no sharing windows illegally then Microsoft would have been wiped out long ago. I used to ask that people not send word documents and to use Libre Office for this reason.

That is one way to think about it.

Staying on the economics front.

Eric von Hippel wrote a book Democratizing Innovation (http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/books/DI/DemocInn.pdf) In summary users know what problems they face, and have brains. So if they are given the tools to fix issues they will, this is how a lot of innovation actually comes about. Wade writes about how Dennis first Lamco heat pump customer was an engineer, it is these tinkerer customer types that make the product better while the company makes the money. They don’t even mind because they get a better product.

So Linux gets better very fast because users are fixing their own pain points. Without waiting for the central authority called Microsoft to come around. Witness Wikipedia who would have predicted the death of Encyclopedia Britannica? Stallman wanted a free encyclopedia in Dec 2000 and knew it could be done and set a set of principles (http://www.gnu.org/encyclopedia/free-encyclopedia.en.html) it should follow. Needless to say it had an influence on Wikipedia

In short the combined brain power of users fixing their own problems and working together overwhelms any corporations ability to compete. This is one of the most important reasons to switch to free software/free culture/free knowledge. Yochai Bencher wrote books on these phenomenon The Wealth of Networks (http://www.benkler.org/Benkler_Wealth_Of_Networks.pdf), The Penguin and the Leviathan: The Science and practice of Human Cooperation (http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic1463867.files/benkler2011.pdf).

All this is nothing new the enclosure of the commons (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gamelaw) in England has strong parallels with copyright, trademark, trade secret and patents.
THE WEALTH OF THE COMMONS A WORLD BEYOND MARKET & STATE (http://wealthofthecommons.org/) is a collection of essays on the various ways in which the commons is useful and important. James Boyle (http://james-boyle.com/) wrote a book The Public Domain: Enclosing the Commons of the Mind (http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5385&context=faculty_scholarship) Siva Vaidyanathan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siva_Vaidhyanathan) has written Copyrights and Copywrongs: The Rise of Intellectual Property and How It Threatens Creativity


Finally on the creativity front To be human is to be creative. Eben Moglen in an article (http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/684/594) says

"Moglen’s corollary to Faraday’s Law says, wrap the Internet around every brain on the planet; spin the planet. Software flows in the network. It is wrong to ask, “What is the incentive for people to create?” It’s an emergent property of connected human minds that they do create. The forms in which they create, like the evolution of spoken and written language, like the disposition of memes, cultural forms, patterns of pottery, shapes of musical endeavor, and so on, are structural characteristics of the human mind. We are a social species, and we create together; that’s our nature. The question to ask is, “What is the resistance of the network?” Moglen’s Corollary to Ohlm’s Law states that the resistance of the network is directly proportional to the field strength of the intellectual property system. The conclusion is: Resist the resistance."

Other good resources on Public Domain are
Against Intellectual Monopoly (http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/against.htm) by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine. They have a blog (http://www.againstmonopoly.org/). David Bollier books (http://www.bollier.org/my-books) and books he likes (http://www.bollier.org/books_i_like), Lawrence Lessig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig#Bibliography), Eben Moglen (http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/)

Roberto Verzola (https://rverzola.wordpress.com) is a good resource he is a Filipino, his book Towards a Political Economy of Information (https://rverzola.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/infoeconomy-verzola.pdf) is a good one. Vandana Shiva (http://vandanashiva.com/) of India (she was featured in Thrive movie) is also a good resource wikipedia link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandana_Shiva) .

One of the most important differences between the commons and intellectual commons, is that the commons needs to be properly managed and has the potential for tragedy. While intellectual commons becomes more valuable the more intensively it is used. This is because intellectual commons is non-rival, I can you my cake and eat it too.

Leaving with the lyrics of Nina Paley's "Copying is not theft"

Copying is not theft. Stealing a thing leaves one less left Copying it makes one thing more; that's what copying's for. Copying is not theft. If I copy yours you have it too One for me and one for you That's what copies can do If I steal your bicycle you have to take the bus, but if I just copy it there's one for each of us! Making more of a thing, that is what we call "copying" Sharing ideas with everyone That's why copying is FUN!

Wade Frazier
15th August 2015, 13:02
Hi Ulli:

Yes, that's the guy! :)

You bring up a few topics that have been on my list to write about, and I have written about most of this here and there, but this will be a little more focused. When Germany invaded Poland in 1939, it was part of Hitler's plan, fashioned after what the English and Americans did to the American Indian (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#hitler), to wipe out all the Slavs of Eastern Europe, to make way for German "settlers." The Jews and Gypsies of Eastern Europe were targeted for immediate extermination (only after attempts to expel the Jews failed - no other nation wanted them (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#exterminate), and Hitler largely learned his anti-Semitism from Henry Ford (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#ford), and Hitler's Volkswagen was patterned after Ford's Model-T, as a "people's" car), but the Slavs were to be used as a slave labor force to build the infrastructure that the German "settlers" would use. In order to reduce the Poles to pliant slaves, the Nazis specifically targeted all of the Polish intelligentsia for extermination. It was a way to decapitate the society and eliminate their collective intelligence, so that they could easily be turned into slaves (the word "slave" comes from Slav in the first place, so their journey has been a hard one for a long time), and Hitler's plan was to work them to death, just as Jews were worked to death in the labor camps. The Nazis literally called it something like "extermination through work."

When the USA invaded Iraq, they ("we") had a plan similar to Hitler's program for Poland, and death squads roamed Iraq, killing off Iraq's intelligentsia. The USA turned the most progressive Arabic state into the disaster it is today. Iraq was also the most secular Arab state, and today you have the rise of ISIS. The USA took a page from Hitler's playbook, just like he took a page from the USA's. The USA has long had programs like that. When it invaded Vietnam, it murdered tens of thousands of people under the Phoenix Program (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program), to eliminate any resistance to American rule. When it helped overthrow the Indonesian government, the CIA literally provided the kill lists for Suharto's murderers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#suharto), and they murdered more than a million people, to wipe out any political competition. The USA did the same thing in Central America in the 1980s, with the death squads that were trained in torture (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#mitrione) in the USA (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#terrorism) roaming nations such as El Salvador and Guatemala (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#central), murdering anybody who stood in the way.

The evil-minded people in the MIC did not just do that to foreign nations, but they murdered a disobedient sitting president (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#jfk) in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses and covered it all up, and every president since then has been a puppet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents), and they know it. The job pays well, however. :) In the 1960s, after JFK's murder, the FBI really got active and began targeting any political resistance with COINTELPRO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO), and murdering activists was not unusual. Ralph McGehee was afraid to leave his house, as the FBI hounded him so badly (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#statement), even after he took down his CIABASE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_McGehee#Life_and_career) and tried to quietly live out his remaining years.

If you read that little tale on Mark Comings's adventures (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=811647&viewfull=1#post811647), the author called the wiping out of FE inventors COINTELPRO for scientists and inventors. What happened to Dennis in Seattle (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle) and Ventura (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr) is just part of that program, although numerous interests were involved, at the local, state, national, and global levels (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1). The rackets don't play fair. :) But the sheeple are in complete denial of that herd management, and even so-called "progressive" organizations such as the rad left make no bones that they have an ideological aversion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#religion) to the idea of such activities happening. It is the adult equivalent of pulling the sheets over your head so that the monsters under your bed can't get you. It is an article of religious faith among "progressives" that those activities don't happen, or you have them seriously misrepresented by people such as David Corn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Corn) (what a hack!), and Richard Stallman (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) is among those in naïve denial, which is typical among American intellectuals. If Stallman had been pursuing FE rather than Free Software, he would have lost his naïveté by now, if he would have survived the experience. I lost mine the hard way (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#naive), as did all of my fellow travelers, which brings me to Brian.

It is typical to be in denial of activities like that, especially if you are among the potential targets. What I call Level 6 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level6) is the initial point that many FE inventors begin with, thinking that corporate America, the American government, and the like will welcome energy innovation with open arms. It is a potentially deadly delusion, and Sparky Sweet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) epitomized that naiveté, mailing working FE prototypes to the big energy institutions, thinking that he was going to get a tickertape parade (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tickertape2), much like Dennis thought that he would get one (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tickertape1) when he brought his heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) back to his home state of Washington. The USA is evil, from top to bottom, founded in genocidal crimes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint) that continue to this day. Its legal system is among the most evil on Earth (http://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_american_nightmare_the_tyranny_of_the_criminal_justice_system), with the world's largest prison population, by far. Many are innocent, and most are not behind bars for what any rational person would call a crime. We are about the only industrialized nation that executes people, and until recently we executed juveniles, which put us in august company (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#record).

When FE inventors wake up a little, the more naïve among them finally realize that there indeed is organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), but they think that they can sneak past it (which I call Level 7 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level7)). That may be deadlier and more foolish than those in denial that it exists.

When I met Brian (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), he had recently spent the weekend with Tom Bearden (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden), and got plenty of "conspiracy theory" from Tom on FE suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make), and Brian did not know what to make of it. His orthodox path did not prepare him for the reality, and he naively hosted a UFO conference the next year (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), the military arrived, and Brian nearly did not survive the experience. Brian began waking up fast, after that. The spooks are good at what they do, and when they murder their targets, they do it very differently from how the Mob does. When the Mob murders people, everybody knows it was the Mob, and the Mob likes it that way, to send a "message." But the spooks play a very different game. They take great pains to make the murders look like something else. They know that if FE inventors die off like flies in what are obvious murders, they are going to spook the herd and their activities are going to be exposed. For any one hit attempt, it is more important to make it look like something other than premeditated murder, so if the target survives the initial attempt, they will not "double-tap" them like the Mob would do, but will regroup and try another day. That is how people like Adam Trombly can survive multiple hit attempts (http://spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/trombly.htm) over the years. Also, the attempt can cripple the target, taking him (usually a man) out of commission, which was the intent, anyway, so it can still be "mission accomplished," even if the initial goal is not achieved. Chomsky similarly said that Vietnam was a "success," even though not all of the American goals were met. So, there is a long trail of bodies of FE inventors, who died in untimely fashion from "heart attacks," "suicides," "cancer," "accidents," "random" crimes, etc. They have it down to a science (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tactics). Dennis survived many murder attempts in his life, some from the Mob, but when the legal system tried it, they used the "death by inmate (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mistakes)" tactic, but Dennis survived the experience, barely.

Of course, potential targets are going to be in denial about that. Who wants to believe that? Not long before he died, Brian said that he knew about 25 dead inventor stories (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#deadinventors), and he, like me, did not want to catalog them. Some have tracked suddenly dead scientists (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=146), and if somebody did it with FE inventors and scientists, the list would be pretty horrific. But those are relatively rare. The Golden Handcuffs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff) is far more common, with thousands being bought out and silenced, and other suppression tactics (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic) come into play. If you follow UFO suppression, similar tactics are used to silence witnesses, with the initial team trying to convince the witness that it was an illusion. If that does not work, the threats come (and the MIBs are in that milieu), and if all else fails, they get violent.

Eugene Mallove's murder (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland) and John Mack's death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Mack#Death) bookended our 2004 NEM conference, and spurred Brian's move to South America. Brian disappeared to South America after Mallove's murder, and two of us had to stage the conference without any guidance from Brian. It was not easy.

The problem with all of those untimely deaths is that sometimes an untimely death is just an untimely death. For instance, I have seen the numbers that Democratic Party politicians are several times more likely to die in private plane crashes than Republicans. What an anomaly! :) The "skeptics" are notorious for attributing stuff like that to "coincidence," and they often engage in criminal lying, as I discovered firsthand (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel). Organized skepticism is a criminal enterprise, as far as I am concerned, and the leading space debunkers (mostly to debunk UFOs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#big)), for instance, all had NSA/CIA connections, and even boasted of them as they tried to intimidate activists.

So, was Eugene Mallove's murder a "coincidence," with his body being discovered just as Brian was emailing me that something was up? Was John Mack's "accidental" death, the day after our conference, another "coincidence?" Maybe, but I did not blame Brian at all for moving to South America. I don’t know all that Brian knew, but it would not surprise me at all if Mack was taken out by the same interests who tried to kill Brian.

I have been invited to leave the USA and live abroad several times, but I have no plans to move (there is no place to run and hide, for starters), but I am also not going to waltz right into Godzilla's jaws. The "Let's have a conference (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#conferences)" mentality is suicidal in this milieu, and you won't see me hosting or attending one. The CIA, Godzilla's minions, groupies, gullible newbies, opportunistic predators, and the like swarm such venues. Bill the BPA Hit Man came running (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#global), the first time that Dennis was allowed to leave the county to speak publicly, and Bill is a hit man today for the medical racket (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#biomed), literally on a Fortune 500 payroll, living in the heart of darkness in California. Been there, done that. I never saw anything truly productive come from those conferences, and it is really unnecessary in these days of cyberspace, Skype, and the like.

What also happens, very counterproductively, is when the naïve go paranoid. They stay in denial of organized suppression, and then when it hits them over the head, they lash out at everybody around them, even wiping out their allies. I have seen it happen, and I have borne the brunt of it, very painfully, I might add. It is not pretty. Walking the fine line between denial and paranoia is not something that many can do. It has to do with the heart, not the head.

Organized suppression is a critical yet minor reason for why we do not enjoy the benefits of FE today. Conspiracists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) usually attribute the entire problem to organized suppression, but that is where they miss the boat. They are delusional, but not as much as people in denial, like "progressives" are. What they both have in common is thinking like victims (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness). The masses are their own worst enemies, doing almost all of Godzilla's work for him, in their low integrity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) and blind pursuit of their self-interest. For the herd's size, it has been exceedingly easy to manage (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#structuralist1).

Time for chores, and I will reply to Freeknowledge's posts in the coming days. There is some good stuff there.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
15th August 2015, 16:18
HI Freeknowledge,

Thank you for the reply. There are some interesting things in there that I did not know about and some ideas that I need to look into further.

"Copying is not stealing". It's a good argument the one with the bike, but not sure how it applies in software. I don't think anyone would even mind if you would make a copy of their bike, because you are not cutting into their "income". Also, the duplication process for a bike, may be comparable in energy resources with the process of creating the bike in the first place? But with software, or digital products in general, duplication is effortless, and it in some cases does cut into the "income" of the person who created it.

Of course, if energy was not an issue for anyone, then who owns what, copying vs theft would become meaningless debates. Creation would be a natural process, and if someone what's to copy that... they they would be wlecome to do so.

But I definetly need to study more the ideas, philosophy, resources and energy models behind free software (or perhaps I should say open source software?). Thanks!

Wade Frazier
16th August 2015, 00:39
Hi:

Before I get back to Dennis and Brian, address Freeknowledge's posts, and get back to vaccinations ( :) ), I want to briefly discuss an article I saw today (http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/08/leveling-playing-field-of-death.html), which discusses the deaths inflicted by the West on the Islamic world in recent decades, with the USA leading the way, as usual. It was written by an American college professor (http://www.uvm.edu/giee/?Page=flomenhoft.html), so he gets some points, and it was no surprise that it comes from the "radical" state of Vermont. It in turn refers to this article (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41491.htm), which supports everything I have been writing about on the subject since 1990 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#attacking). Whether "only" six million have died as a result of our activities (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), or a nice round ten million, does not matter to my fellow Americans, to whom turban = terrorist, and who probably wish was a billion. Nice to see Polya (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#polya) get some cyber-ink.

To kind of allude to what Freeknowledge is writing about, those unfortunates in those nations have not only had their demographic transitions (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic) prevented, in Iraq, the West has successfully rolled it backwards, as infant mortality skyrocketed, women are being placed back in burkas, and medieval ideologies have come to prominence again. The USA did the same thing to Iran long ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#iran), and when you get down to it, the Middle Eastern peoples have had the Western boot laid across their necks ever since the British Navy converted from coal to oil more than a century ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#churchill1).

I would like to briefly introduce a concept in my essay, which is of "pristine" development. There were only four pristine civilizations in world history (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), and arguably only two: the Fertile Crescent and Mesoamerica (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mesoamerica). There was only one pristine industrialization and demographic transition, which began in England in the 1700s (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4). All other civilizations and demographic transitions were influenced by the first ones, so they have different characters from the pristine ones. The transition to the Fifth Epochal Event (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) is only going to happen once, and it will be a global phenomenon, but the different "starting points" will make them differ in their characters. As long as we don’t stupidly use FE for wars or strip-mining Earth, it will all be good, and FE means the end of warfare (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacekeeping) and environmental damage (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#immediate) anyway, unless humanity is the stupidest "sentient (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1)" species in the galaxy. I have a higher opinion of humanity than that, and if bonobos could do it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1), we sure can.

That college professor is a Peak Oiler (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peakoil), and I almost wanted to contact him, but after watching a little of his talk and perusing his efforts, it was clear that he is blood brothers with people like Heinberg (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction), and they regard FE as the enemy, incredibly. All they can see is war and strip-mining, but I think it is really an addiction to scarcity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation), at its root.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
16th August 2015, 05:45
free software (or perhaps I should say open source software?). Thanks!

I can’t resist :) My handle on this forum is freeknowledge because I care about free software, free culture, free knowledge. A famous idiom, when thinking about 'Free Software' think Free Speech, Free Markets, Free People not Free Beer. Free as in Freedom.

Why Open Source misses the point of free software (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html) in Romanian (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.ro.html). What is free software? The Free Software Definition (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html) or Definiția software-ului liber (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.ro.html) in Romanian.

You might also want to read the annotated notes (http://www.geof.net/research/2006/moglen-notes) of Eben Moglen’s speech

Wade says Stallman is legalistic, which is only partly true. If you look at his history he came from a culture where software was freely shared and copyright was not even recognized on software, but things started to change that culture of sharing was vanishing and copyright was starting to be recognized in software, before that nobody was sure if software was copyrightable (this was late 70’s or early 80’s). Stallman is a deep and methodical thinker he set out a set of principles and carefully defined them to explain himself. Lets say that like Wade he blows too many fuses, and if Stallman did not take extraordinary care in communication people like him will be vilified. He is legalistic because he invented Copyleft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft) the best way to invert copyright using the power of copyright. Copyright is the enclosure of the mind, copyleft is using copyright to make sure that the commons can never be enclosed. Stallman was forced to become legalistic by his experiences.



"Copying is not stealing". It's a good argument the one with the bike, but not sure how it applies in software. I don't think anyone would even mind if you would make a copy of their bike, because you are not cutting into their "income". Also, the duplication process for a bike, may be comparable in energy resources with the process of creating the bike in the first place? But with software, or digital products in general, duplication is effortless, and it in some cases does cut into the "income" of the person who created it.


Lets start with physical property
"If I steal your bicycle you have to take the bus” meaning you can’t enjoy physical property unless you possess it. "You can’t have your cake and eat it too” is along the same lines, once eaten its gone. Physical property in other words is rivalrous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_(economics)). Another facet of property is that the owner protects property by paying costs to keep it from being stolen, this could be local property taxes, hiring security or keeping it on the person, whatever it may be, it takes energy to keep it from being stolen.

Copying an idea or bicycles or software is very different, the author can still enjoy the original. You can enjoy Nina Paley’s poem and so can I :) Each of us can do so as many times as we like. Duplication of digital bitstreams, books, technology involves use of resources/energy of the person who wants to duplicate, on what basis should this right of people to do as they please with their own private resources be restricted? Copy monopoly unlike physical property on the other hand imposes public costs (of energy).

Yes, it impacts income the authors might be able to make in the market both positively and negatively. So does education of other people, so does competition.

We don’t create in vacuum we create by building on what came before All Creative Work Is Derivative (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvd5JZkUXY) by Nina Paley Linux/Wikipedia as you know is built on the work of many contributors.

Apart from that I gave an answer in my first post on what I could accept (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988726&viewfull=1#post988726) for copy monopoly Restrict monopoly to limited time say 10 years, and limit by geography. Question Copyright has a proposal The Declared Value System: Managing Monopolies for the Public Good (http://questioncopyright.org/declared_value_system)

If people don’t find enough incentive to create digital products, they can switch to other work that they find worthwhile.
Wade gets no income from his website and from his forum/thread and does it in his ‘spare time’. If humanity had enough collective sentience we would pay him because of the social utility of his efforts. But since we don’t pay him, he does whatever is necessary for him to earn a living. Finding himself reading long diatribes from me in his ‘spare’ time.


Of course, if energy was not an issue for anyone, then who owns what, copying vs theft would become meaningless debates. Creation would be a natural process, and if someone what's to copy that... they they would be wlecome to do so.!

This is getting cause and effect reversed. Our childhood is long as compared other animals because we need a long time to learn and become human as adults. The cultural transmission of knowledge is what makes us human, even animals have culture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_culture). We are human because we learn and use ideas from others by copying their ideas, behaviors, innovations. And stopping the flow of ideas and culture is an old of game of beating down competition from the time of agriculture to the modern day.

Regarding owning an idea, ideas can be private (personally or among small groups) and thus owned by somebody, or they can be public in which case I don’t see how it is owned anymore, we in society might choose to restrict copying of ideas if we think that it will incentivize creation of art, culture, ideas etc by giving up our fundamental right to copy for a limited time. Please read Misinterpreting Copyright—A Series of Errors (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.en.html)


Wade writes
"The rise of humans was dependent on numerous factors, but the most important may have been the ability to increase humanity’s collective knowledge. If each invention during human history had to be continually reinvented from scratch, there would not be people today. The cultural transmission of innovations was critical for growing humanity’s collective technology, skills, and intelligence.”

I fully agree.




=======Added Later ============
From Intellectual Property and Computer Software, A Battle of Competing Use and Access Visions for Countries of the South (http://www.ictsd.org/sites/default/files/research/2008/07/story20-20ip20and20computer20software20-20blue2010.pdf) by Alan Story

"3.1 Copyright Protection and Restriction
...
Traditionally, utilitarian works (that is, functional works that do something or cause another part or piece to do something) such as computer programs have been protected by either trade secret or patent law;
....
was amended in the 1980s to explicitly put computer software under the copyright umbrella as a literary work. Acting on the recommendations contained in the 1978 report of the National Commission on New Technological Uses of Copyrighted Works (CONTU), a 1980 amendment to the US Copyright Act, Section 117, expressly recognised the copyrightability of computer programs."


The Knockoff Economy: How Imitation Sparks Innovation (http://www.amazon.com/The-Knockoff-Economy-Imitation-Innovation/dp/0195399781/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338513300&sr=8-1)

Fashion does not have copyright

Wade Frazier
16th August 2015, 13:40
Hi:

Anybody notice how this thread wanders all over the place? :) That is part of the beauty of it, and making my own forum has been key to making my public writings a little better organized. Before I write about Dennis, to briefly address Freeknowledge's latest…

Believe me, I get all about why Stallman went legalistic. I sacrificed my life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mortgage) to get Dennis a lawyer and a sliver of hope in Kangaroo Court (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail), and it worked. Dennis has been in legal battles for the past 30 years, nearly continually, as the Establishment attacked his efforts. He ended up doing most of his own legal work, and that would be a very long conversation. After he got railroaded the first time (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#conviction), 40 years ago, he began waking up to our legal system's evils.

What happens, however, is that efforts like Dennis's or Stallman's, in an effort to survive, play the legal game, and it distorts their efforts. Those legal games are artifacts of survival in a world of scarcity, and will mean nothing in the Fifth Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). The so-called legal system in the Fifth Epoch I expect to work like Walsch's "God" said it works in HEB societies: there are only a handful of laws, they are simple, and everybody knows them. It will probably resemble Fulghum's list (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting).

Only in a society of relative abundance could something like the Free Software Movement exist. People willingly working for free for the good of society is rare in the human journey (not enough surplus energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary) for it). In the Fifth Epoch everything will be free, as almost no human effort will produce any of it, and the "work" that people do will be to fulfil their souls, not to survive in a world of scarcity.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th August 2015, 16:32
Hi:

OK, on to Dennis. He is by far the greatest human being that I ever knew or heard of, whose life's journey is simply unbelievable (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), but I lived through its darkest chapters with him (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr), so I know that they happened. The lessons that I learned (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm) during my journey with Dennis were the most important of my life, and without them, I would likely have nothing worth saying. I have seen people around me think that all I "know" I got from books, and that is ignorance talking. Experience may be the only teacher. About the only books that I use in my work are scientific and scholarly, and are the results of trying to figure out what happened and how/why, as a way to help steer our ship today. Those are worthy pursuits, and I mine them for all they are worth, but in my radicalized state.

I met Dennis through one of those many preposterous, larger-than-life events that attended my journey and that even I have a hard time believing happened, and it happened inside my head (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2). :) I had already been mentored by a world-class scientific and inventive genius (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), which began my energy dreams (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction), and with Dennis, I began to live them. I can't regret what happened, but I would not wish it on anybody else. It was one hell of a way to learn, and I suppose that my public writings are to help people learn in easier fashion, so they are not risking their lives. If everybody had to learn those lessons like Dennis and I did, there would be almost no survivors of the "curriculum," and my choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) idea would never have a prayer of even forming, much less making a dent.

The lessons that I learned from my journey with Dennis are lessons that almost nobody on Earth really wants to learn, which is why I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle). Even people who seem like enthusiastic seekers end up going down the rabbit holes and into blind alleys, learning all the wrong lessons, if they really learned them at all. That is one reason why I say that a person has to have already been awakened (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) somehow for any of this to make sense, as otherwise, they drag the baggage of their conditioning with them, and they can't comprehend my material or an Epoch of Abundance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) while they drag the baggage of scarcity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation) along with them.

IMO, what is most important about Dennis's journey are these facts/ideas/issues:


The dent that one man can make in our world, if he tries hard enough;
The inability of that one man to manifest the biggest event in the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), not matter how hard he tries;
The particulars of the energy technologies that Dennis sold, his heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) most importantly;
How to take disruptive technologies from tinkerer stage to the marketplace (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco2) at industrial levels of production;
How to market such technologies (putting it for free on people's homes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs) is the most brilliant thing that I saw Dennis do, and a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch, like the Free Software Movement (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#utopia) is);
How the world system really works, including the American legal system (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail), dominated by black hats (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) and white hats (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white), and we encountered both factions on numerous occasions, and that includes the organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make) of exotic technologies, with FE chief among them (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1);
How the low integrity amongst the masses (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn), as they are focused on their immediate self-interest to the exclusion of all else, is the biggest reason for our predicament, not what ultra-elites do.


What is really not important about Dennis's journey, IMO, is his Christian faith (if he had been born in the Middle East, he would be a fanatical devotee of Mohammed and Allah, not Jesus and "God"), his attempts to marry heat pumps and heat engines (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#marry), his NWO and "patriot" rhetoric, his business-oriented efforts to make FE happen, his PT Barnum ways (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum), and other highly visible aspects of his journey that can be distractions from learning the important lessons. I see people get mesmerized by them all the time, and get caught up in the distractions, as they fail to understand what is important.

There are some pretty simple and undeniable facts of Dennis's journey, which people ignore, deride, lie about, and the like, and they include:


Dennis grew up in a migrant farmworker household (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis) and was forced to leave home at age 13, which was not unusual in that culture; and he was kicked out of high school when he was discovered sleeping on its premises, which he had done for years;
He then enlisted in the military, which was a common "career path" for his culture (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#englishinvasion), and he was a paratrooping medic who saw combat in Southeast Asia as the USA raped the region (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#vietnam1);
After his military days, Dennis woke up to the lie of his nationalistic indoctrination (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice), and it was his first and greatest awakening moment, in an event more spectacular than when I first heard that voice (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice);
After he helped the FBI sting the Alaskan Mob (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#mafia1) and survived a couple of murder attempts, he fled to New Jersey, where he continued his college education;
He lived amongst the Eastern Oligarchy and was at the top of his class, studying Utopian societies, and woke up to the true nature of the profession (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#skinner) that he would soon join, became disgusted, and dropped out of college on the brink of graduation;
After dropping out of college (and being fired from the last job he ever had as an employee because he outsold his entire department (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#builders), making everybody look bad), he began an idealistic homebuilding business, which was soon wiped out in the mayhem of the USA's first energy crisis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert), which ended the most prosperous period in the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar);
Dennis then produced a business plan from a days-long bout of what would probably be called automatic writing, and it was a way to unite the consumer and give them a voice in the marketplace (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ucs), which was dominated by corporate manipulations of the consumer;
During those years of trying to make a go of those very idealistic businesses, he met his current wife (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=954064&viewfull=1#post954064), became a Christian, survived more Mob hit attempts (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=606213&viewfull=1#post606213), survived numerous attempts to steal his business, and became partners with one of the world's most prominent televangelists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#give), but in the end, his businesses failed;
After those business failures, he got involved in the energy industry, in energy conservation; his first venture was low-flow shower heads (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#conserve), and he soon graduated to home insulation (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#foam);
Dennis is a marketing and sales genius of the likes I never saw before or since, and his energy companies were always wildly successful, which attracted the attention of the Mob and other opportunists, and he was constantly fending off attempts to steal his companies, and the theft attempts were often successful;
Immediately after mobsters stole his insulation company, Dennis became paralyzed from the neck-down and nearly died three times from the negligence of the Veteran's Administration hospital (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#va) where he was treated, and their negligence permanently crippled him;
As he recovered from his paralysis, he became involved with a unique heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco2), and soon dominated the fledgling industry, once again, as he tried to industrialize it;
He soon unveiled his shared savings program for his heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), building on his earlier programs, and he soon reached meteoric sales rates, which once again inspired mobsters and his business associates to try stealing his businesses, and they were successful more than once, and Dennis survived more murder attempts;
After one of the successful thefts of his business, when that time he and his wife had almost nothing to their names but the clothes on their backs and three small children to feed, he visited his family in his home town, his youngest child died of crib death (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run), and Dennis discovered that his home state, which had long had the cheapest electricity on Earth, suddenly was in a crisis due to nuclear plant boondoggles (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#whoops), and he realized that there was a unique market opportunity for his heat pump;
After wasting two years in his home town, working with a local robber baron, Dennis had enough and drove over the Cascade Mountains (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm) and set up his business in Seattle (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle1), where he soon made the greatest run at bringing alternative energy to the marketplace in world history, it was a spectacular snuff job, inflicted by the electric interests (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#scam), with everybody from the Attorney General (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#betsy) to the media to the federal courts (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#bk) being involved;
When a hit man from the federal agency that ran the local electric industry was responsible for the death of one of Dennis's employees (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death), Dennis had the first of many radicalizing moments in his energy journey (what had happened on the East Coast was only a warm-up);
In the midst of all of that, a voice in my head led me straight into Dennis's company (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2), as it was in its death throes;
After working for free for months to reconstruct the company’s financial records, Dennis's company was stolen by Mormon grifters (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#theft), and my boss helped engineer the theft from the inside (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=905042&viewfull=1#post905042), mere weeks after Dennis's finance company was stolen as a way to steal Dennis's company;
Dennis was run out of his home state by the electric interests, and tried to rebuild his business in Boston; I had been hit by the lightning and could not let go of my teenage dreams, and chased Dennis out to Boston (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing), where I soon improbably became his partner, and we began to pursue FE (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#freeenergy) the day after I arrived in Boston;
I got my first professional mentor (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) involved, who eventually proposed marrying his engine to the panels from Dennis's heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#marry), to produce FE, and in Boston we received an overture from what I now know was the people who run the world, and they offered us $10 million (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten) for the exclusive rights to our bright idea (before Mr. Mentor made his technical proposal), and the local electric industry was keenly aware of our efforts, and Dennis and Mr. Engineer (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#engineer) soon had a red carpet audience (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carpet) with the most powerful electric executive in New England, as we stumbled into another nuclear power controversy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#seabrook);
The local officials in New England, as in our home state of Washington, were sharpening their axes to attack (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#middlesex), on behalf of the local energy interests, but we moved away to the town where I was raised (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr), in Ventura, California, and that is where the fireworks really began;
There is far too much to tell about our days in Ventura in this post, and a billion dollar offer (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer) delivered by the CIA on behalf of "European interests," to make us go away, was only part of the terrain, but three years after we hit Ventura, my life was ruined and I was radicalized, and I cover the highlights (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#pursuit) on my site;
Dennis was eventually kangarooed into prison, where the prison officials kept trying to get him murdered by the inmates (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mistakes), but Dennis survived those murder attempts, too, and "only" had some fingers broken and teeth knocked out;
When Dennis got out of prison, he went right back at it harder than ever, and you really had to see it to believe it, and within two years, he was barnstorming the country with a free energy and exotic technology tour, and we met with Al Gore at the White House (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull) immediately after hosting the largest FE gathering in world history (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#philly);
After several years of trying, Dennis coaxed me back into working for him, and I nearly went to prison myself for my troubles (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting), and ever since, I have refused his entreaties to work with him again, even an invitation to the White House (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&viewfull=1#post694872);
Between my stints with Dennis, I hit the books (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), became one of Brian's biggest fans (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#miracle), and we all came to learn that FE technology is likely older than I am, and it sits in Godzilla's (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) Golden Hoard, and one of my close pals got a peek (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) back in the 1990s;


To put it mildly, that is quite and story, and even I get overwhelmed by it at times. Virtually all of it is well-documented, and I lived through a great deal of it, but really, I think that Dennis did his most interesting work before I met him. What he did in Seattle has never been done before or since, and what was really important about those days is what we learned about how the world really works, not the technology so much, although it is important to understand how it worked, and it is really pretty easy to understand (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) if somebody puts their mind to it. The brilliant aspects of Mr. Mentor's engine are also pretty easy to understand (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), again if somebody puts their mind to it. Classical physics (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#carnot) says that marrying heat engines to heat pumps cannot make FE, and maybe that is right, although I encountered scientists who thought otherwise (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#mallove). IMO, it is not really that important whether FE could be made thermodynamically, and Dennis's attempts and pitching in that realm should be taken with a grain of salt, especially Dennis's explanations. ZPE is vastly more important, and I believe that the greatest threat that we presented to the global power structure was not what we were building at our facility, but that our efforts could inspire people such as Sparky Sweet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) to join up with us, and then it would have quickly been Game Over for the global elites (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear), and they knew it. That was why we received the attention that we did, not what we were working on at our facility so much. Dennis kept trying, through business collapses, picking up the pieces once again, etc. But in his last attempt, that time with high-MPG carburetors (which took me back to my days before I met Dennis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1)), he was finally run out of the USA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&viewfull=1#post694872), The Land of the Free, like Brian was also run out of his cherished homeland (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland), to die in exile.

Those are the facts as I know them, and most are exceedingly well documented, for those who do their homework, but all that the media (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#deputy), authorities (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#pinch), "skeptics (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel)," and even Dennis's "allies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel)" in the FE milieu can do is tell Big Lies about Dennis, and what was more dismaying than their blatant lies was how easily they gulled people (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm) who parrot the disinformation to this day, and I mean public figures whom I regularly see lionized. I saw the same people embrace the liars and their lies as they turned around and attacked Dennis and Brian, which is one reason why I do not want to have anything to do with the FE field today. Almost nobody in it has the right stuff, and the field has been in a state of arrested development (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#arrested) for longer than I have been alive.

It was only after many years of the life-risking and life-wrecking trial and error, carrying Dennis's and Brian's spears (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10), that I came up with my choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) idea, and Dennis and Brian instantly knew that I was doing something different, and Brian was planning on promoting my approach (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852) soon before he died.

Time for chores, and I plan to write a summary post on Dennis's, Brian's, and my efforts (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), and might get to it today, but we will see.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th August 2015, 01:28
Hi:

Briefly, I see no end of articles like this (https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/mass-extinction-human-cause-by-paul-r--ehrlich-and-anne-h--ehrlich-2015-08), banging the drums of doom, as if there is no way out other than a 90% depopulation of Earth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity). Yes, humanity is on the edge of the abyss (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth) and almost nobody knows or cares. Yes indeed, but I have yet to see even one doomsayer, especially of the environmental (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists) persuasion, give FE the time of day, other than labeling it the enemy, in classic Level 5 fashion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), even though it can quickly make every single one of their causes of worry evaporate almost overnight (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5).

Neat the end of his life, Brian was nearly beside himself with how FE was either treated like the enemy (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) or completely off the radar of "progressives," as he futilely banged on the "progressive" doors that were closed, but they rolled out the red carpet for people such as Heinberg (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction).

Best,

Wade

Krishna
17th August 2015, 05:18
Only in a society of relative abundance could something like the Free Software Movement exist. People willingly working for free for the good of society is rare in the human journey (not enough surplus energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary) for it).

Very few in the free software movement or related movements work for free for the common good, as few as any other charitable cause in society. That will change in the next epoch.

The success of Free/Open Source Software or Wikipedia is because
It is very cheap and very useful
It is cheap to contribute to in energy terms, you find a problem you can fix it
Network effects are enormous.
The network is the Internet.


While Free Culture is non-rival, Free Software, Free Knowledge are non-rival and anti-rival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-rival_good) .


Eben Moglen says it better (http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/maine-speech.html) than I can

"there are two classes of goods with zero marginal cost in the twenty-first century. One class of goods is functional; it performs either better or worse than another class of goods at the same job. Executable computer software is a good, central, but not the only, example of such functional information. Maps, genome information and other examples could be equally invoked. My proposition, as I have already put it before you, is that for functional goods with zero marginal cost, production without property relations produces superior goods. And this is true the more that collaboration is necessary in order to produce. Hence, free software and soon-as a result of the work that I and hundreds of other people are doing around the world--free genetic information and machines, represent the demonstration that this form of production, without exclusion from the right to understand and produce oneself, produces better goods. So everybody who wants to be a producer is, and produces at the margin of the ever-expanding compact mass of existing production, because nothing requires reinvention. What you have is a system of Lamarckian evolution of functional goods, in which the acquired characteristics of any one good can be inherited by all the others. The result, as Lamarck and Darwin and other nineteenth century evolutionary theorists noted, is the rapidest and most positive kind of evolutionary change.

But there is no such thing with respect to non-functional goods. One cannot say that anarchist music is inherently superior to proprietary music. What one can say is that in the world of zero-marginal cost, anarchist distribution--that is, distribution without exclusion from the act of distributing--produces inherently superior distribution. This is even easier to perceive than the first proposition. When the right to distribute goods with zero marginal cost has to be bought and sold, there are inefficiencies introduced in the social network of distribution. When no such buying and selling, no such exclusion from the power of distribution exists, distribution occurs at the native speed of the social network itself."


This finishes my homework on Free Software. Next I will write about Radical Left and lessons I learned. That will end my homework :)

Wade Frazier
17th August 2015, 09:23
Thanks Freeknowledge:

If the free software movement is full of as many greedy people as work at Microsoft, no wonder they are not interested in helping make FE happen! :) I was wasting my time, thinking that I might have a chance with Stallman, whose motives are primarily self-interest.

The issue of self-interest, altruism, and the like is an old one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy), and I discovered the hard way that self-interested people were effortlessly defeated by organized suppression, at least in the FE milieu (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1). There has been a battle over the terminology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_terms_for_free_software) of free software, open-source, etc.

The fact is that if everybody was a peasant, sacrificing their bodies from sunup until sundown to eat, nobody would be spending their "free" time contributing to Wikipedia. The Internet is the apex of high technology, which is only really possible in affluent societies, with plenty of free time from the surplus energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary). It was developed with a great deal of government money, and the first Internet boom was completely fueled by VC and IPO money. Almost none of it came from customers. I have only been able to do my writing because I sacrificed my life and live in an affluent society.

I can almost get with the idea that the free software people are simply following their mutual self-interest, but it was only a high energy, affluent economy (history's richest and most powerful) that made the "good" possible. In a way, I am advocating something similar, in that everybody will benefit by living in an FE-based economy (except that Godzilla (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) will lose his power over humanity, and both elites (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear) and poor (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cognitive) will vanish), but selfish people are not going to help us get there, and those in the FE milieu who advocate open-sourcing and giving it away largely are acting from altruistic motives. I am getting ahead of myself here, but making and giving away the most lucrative technology in world history, by far (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion), is going to implode capitalism from the inside (like Luke and the Death Star). For-profit enterprises will not survive in that environment.

One thing is for sure; my motives and those of my fellow travelers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) are very different from the anti-rival motives of the free software people. Making FE happen will not be easy, and cannot be based on some mutual self-interest approach. I found that it will not work, and that the path of love is the only the only one that will work, and to understand that, I think that people need some kind of mystical awakening. It may not be required, but the people worth anything in the FE milieu were that way, and were overgrown Boy and Girl Scouts (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts). The self-interested fell by the wayside almost immediately and helped wipe out the efforts from the inside. Looking for needles…

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th August 2015, 12:45
Hi:

OK, I am going to finish off that series of posts that began with this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988515&viewfull=1#post988515). Dennis and Brian were overachievers in a big way, more than me, and Dennis and I had the firstborn's disease of initiative and achievement. Dennis went far beyond his station in life, being born into a family of migrant farmworkers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis), when white people still did that in the USA. Brian became an astronaut (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), Ivy League professor (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after), and advisor to presidential candidates (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall), raised by parents who did not attend college. I was raised by a father whose IQ was in the 160-170 range (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102), was mentored by world-class inventive genius (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction) long before I met Dennis, and was groomed for a life of achievement almost from the cradle (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm). I had far more "excuse" for my journey than Dennis and Brian did.

We were all geniuses, raised during the most prosperous era in the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar), as members of history's most privileged demographic group - white, educated American men - who grew up during the post-war boom. Arrogance is one of the USA's chief exports, and being as gifted and privileged as we were, we all had to work at humility, but Dennis least of all, coming from roots as humble as his. Brian openly admitted how his ego was challenged back in his astronaut and "bright lights" days, and I wrestled with delusions of grandeur (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur) when I was an FE newbie and Dennis's partner. We all got beaten down pretty thoroughly, with Dennis getting body cavity searches in prison and Brian being cast from the Citadel (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#rough), and he struggled economically ever since, until his death in exile, which included going bankrupt. Dennis survived numerous murder attempts (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989477&viewfull=1#post989477), while Brian "only (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989137&viewfull=1#post989137)" survived one that I know of, and I have not had to try surviving one so far, and I am happy that I did not. I had my life ruined during my adventures, and am still picking up the pieces of my shattered life. I had enough of that and do not seek martyrdom, as Dennis and Brian seemed to be motivated at times, which comes with the hero's role all-too-often.

We all got involved in the energy issue (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#journeys) because of the USA's first energy crisis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert), and the American standard of living has been declining ever since (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#industrialdecline), similar to Rome's decline, as it slowly ran out of energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses). But, as I discovered during my journey, what made us rare in the FE community and in the USA in general was our Boy Scout natures. That set us apart from nearly all the rest, and all fellow travelers that I had much respect for had the same motivation (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts). We were not being guided by self-interest, but had a higher calling. Anybody can say that, especially politicians ( :) ), but Dennis has lived it at levels that are hard to believe (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), and Brian was similarly motived by his conscience, not self-interest, and that is what attracted me to them in the first place. The self-interested project their motivation onto others and cannot comprehend the motivation of the Dennises and Brians. It takes one to know one. They passed the integrity test with flying colors, as did Mr. Professor (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr). However, passing the test at those levels of the game usually means a wrecked and prematurely-ended life, which happened to Mr. Professor (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey) and Brian (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ufo3), and those close to Dennis are amazed that he is still alive, much less going at it as hard as ever at nearly 70 years old. I passed up more than a million dollars on five separate occasions on my journey, and Dennis and Brian also passed up immense sums to follow their consciences. Not many like that walk Earth today, and Brian sought rich "altruists" during his NEM days and in his life's last years. He didn’t find any, primarily because they don’t exist (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rich). Billionaires swarmed Dennis when he was riding high, and not one of them parted with a dollar that I know of, but they all tried to see how they could co-opt what Dennis was doing. They are more harm than good, if any good at all.

Unlike the Free Software Movement as presented by Freeknowledge (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989765&viewfull=1#post989765), there is no immediate, if indirect, payoff for making FE happen. Economic gratification may well be delayed past the end of our lifetimes, for those in the choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). Making FE happen will be an industrial process (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#guerilla), not the province of tinkerers in their garages. The tinkerer approach will not work for the most transformative technology in the human journey, although those without technology development experience often think so. A self-interested approach will not work for making FE happen, as I discovered the hard way during my journey. The Boy Scouts are also guilty of projecting their motivation. When I became Dennis's partner, Dennis thought that people really cared. It was a delusion, if a noble one. A decade later, Dennis admitted to me that almost nobody really cared, but he was sifting through humanity's mine tailings (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tailings), looking for stray nuggets. He rarely found any. Ralph nobly thought (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#heart) that if people had access to the information that he did, that they would wake up to the evils done in their name. Ralph was wrong (http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/). Brian sought those rich altruists that don’t exist. We all had to go through those moments of disillusionment and awakening, and I learned my lessons the hard way on that score, and it was the most important lesson of my journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn).

So, I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle): people who actually care for something other than their immediate self-interest or their in-group's (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) welfare. Only by seeing all of humanity, indeed all life on Earth, as our in-group, will my effort succeed. That was also the message of the spiritual masters (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enemy), and I have studied their message at length (only after a mystical awakening (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva) do their words really make sense, in my experience), and it is the only approach with a prayer, as far as I can see. Love is the only answer that I know (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest) of.

But I do not seek heroes. Men are groomed to play the hero (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hero) and women are trained to be cheerleaders and groupies for such heroes, and that dynamic has marred the New Age (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage) movement, for instance, and FE inventors announce that they are the Messiah (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level11), etc. The men have I seek have to put away their heroic notions, and the women need to step up from their roles of cheerleaders and groupies, for my approach to work.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
17th August 2015, 19:40
Wade,
First a request can you add a time column to the epoch table (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) basically approximate dates of when each epoch started.


Looks like I will never move past Free Software topic :)

There are two communities Free Software community and Open Source software community that confusingly call the same thing (software) two different names Free Software, Open Source Software respectively even more confusingly they work together on creating software together. All of them have the same skills (software engineer) and therefore can make money doing high tech work. So their lifestyles are similar.

Also lots of people get their introduction to Free/Open Source Software (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software) as students, they make contributions in their youth, eventually they graduate, get a family/real job and slowly their contributions taper. Are these students altruistic or not?

What about hobbyists, that enjoy their hobby and contribute as a side effect of their hobby? Are they altruistic?

Even more confusingly corporations have very good business/capitalistic/self interested reasons to contribute to Free/Open Source Software (same thing different names). The general public thinks that 'open source' means somebody with a good heart is giving their jewels away. Nothing can be farther than the truth in this case. They use Free/Open Source Software for the same reason that you do. Software is a cost and they are picking the cheapest software that they is good enough. If there are bugs or improvements that they need to make, they will make them and release the improvements. Multiple companies doing the same means that the cost of development goes down for any given individual company.

The Open Source community is apolitical and are only mildly altruistic. The Free Software people understand politics, put sharing first and are much more altruistic, they are more likely to have woken up. Thus my request to you to write the open letter to the free software movement. I await version 2.0 :)

Among Free Software people if they are very committed to the principles, even they can find work at high tech companies working only on free/open source software, others like me don't insist on such work. Still there are others who work only on free/open source software at non-profits/charities only.

Stallman is a saint by any measure. His stance is an ethical stance first. In your parlance he is an overgrown boy scout, he was happily sharing his software without seriously thinking about politics/ethics. He was woken up by changes in the communities around him.

See how he defined free software.


“Free software” means software that respects users' freedom and community. Roughly, it means that the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. Thus, “free software” is a matter of liberty, not price.
….
We campaign for these freedoms because everyone deserves them.


If we go back to evolution you can say that he is merely extending our innate biological drive of cultural transmission to the digital realm.
If you compare that with the agricultural epoch or the current industrial epoch he is saying that elites have no right to stop self education and use of knowledge for individual or community purposes. In India it was forbidden for the lower castes to study, as was the case with African Americans in the USA, and I am sure this is the case elsewhere as we saw with the Easterlin paper :)

Education is the lever on which the transitions between epochs happen. Be it the transition from chimpanzees to Fire/cooking which according to you was invented only once. Or the transition to Super Predator epoch, the further transition to the agricultural epoch and finally the current industrial epoch. Cut education out or restrict education and the transitions won’t happen, and Stallman is opposing those restrictions on education.

He wrote about these issues The Right to Read (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html) and The Free Universal Encyclopedia and Learning Resource (http://www.gnu.org/encyclopedia/free-encyclopedia.en.html) which had an influence on Wikipedia see History of Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wikipedia)

You are right to lament about his "materialism, scientism, and rationalism”, but not about his altruism, he is one of the "rare people willingly working for free for the good of society".

Free Software, Free Society (http://shop.fsf.org/product/free-software-free-society-2/) is required reading to understand Stallman. It is a book available online (http://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf) under a free license for no cost or you could decide to buy a dead tree version.


The free software people (altruists) are unhappy when people talk about ethics and say open source because it has no ethical connotation to open source see definition of open source (http://opensource.org/osd-annotated) vs definition of free software (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html) When you say that you want to open source something. I read it as Wade wants to free it, liberate it, put no restrictions on it, because of ideas about what is ethical (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html). Like Stallman when you are near the finish line you will find people who will join you they too will open source, free it, liberate it, put no restrictions on it but wont be driven primarily by other serving nature.

You seek Free Software people now, but the Open Source people will also be one of your greatest allies later, because they understand abundance and anti-rival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-rival_good) nature of what you are trying to do.

Wade Frazier
17th August 2015, 20:30
Hi:

Hi Freeknowledge. OK, I'll accept that Stallman may be a Boy Scout, but I already took a run at him, a good one, and I know that he is openly hostile to the idea of FE. I did not name him (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) until I heard that from one of your Free Software pals who tried to interest him in FE in a public venue. I won't waste my time with him again. He is a Level 3 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3), and they are the most entrenched of all.

I am looking for anybody, from any persuasion, who has a love of the truth, a desire to heal humanity and the planet, and if they are like that, they will not have let their ideological indoctrination, whatever it was (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), have a death grip on their psyche. They have got to let go of that stuff if they are going to comprehend this vision (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), not only in its fullness, but also understand that they can help it happen by "merely" raising their awareness to the stage where they can digest my big essay and learn to sing the abundance song (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). That is all that I am currently looking for.

My experience has been that almost nobody is willing or able to do that, for various reasons, which are almost all self-serving (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving). That is the problem, not how "smart" people are. Scientists rave about my big essay (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#paleo), but I have seen laypeople get enough out of it so that they were hitting some notes, even Nine. :) If Nine can do it, almost anybody who really puts their mind to it can get at least some of it, particularly the gist of it.

On dates on the Epochal Table (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), let me think about it. Maybe the pristine instance of each one could be helpful, but there is a pretty wide range of dates today on the first one. Stone tools have now been found that go back about 3.5 million years, and as you saw in that recent paper, scientists are arguing for "only" 800K years ago for cooking (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cooking), and some even put it in very recent times, as if protohumans controlled fire for hundreds of thousands of years before they figured out how to cook with it. I don't buy that, but there is a great deal of controversy over that one, but what they can all agree on is that some energy game had to be played to grow and power the human brain (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1).

On Open Letter 2.0, I have some homework for you. :) Make an outline of what you think I should cover, and I will think about it.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
17th August 2015, 23:04
Wade,
I am not asking you to contact anybody, you gave me homework to explain Free Software. That is what I am doing. And clearing up misconceptions since this area is notoriously difficult to understand. I blew fuses at one of the best Indian charities, and these are very thoughtful people. I had no success after spending 2 years intensively trying to help them understand. I don't do that anymore.

With apologies to SL and Ilie. It is not enough to say that I am an anarchist and therefore don't believe in copyrights. One has to be able to explain the energy flows of software/wikipedia or free art as it exists today and explain their success or failure. Likewise we should be above falling into the trap of thinking that software/digital goods are the same as physical property we need to analyze them based based on their public good, non-rival and anti-rival properties. Finally we need to be able to identify and understand the various human motivations involved in creating digital goods.

I hope I succeeded in my efforts.

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 00:00
Hi:

You are doing fine, Freeknowledge. Yes, Free Software and Open Source and their distinctions are a fine thing to discuss here, largely because you thought, long ago, that FE and FS could be natural allies, and it seemed that way, and now you want me to write Open Letter 2.0. :) Writing 2.0 cannot be about anything other than reaching out to your FS brethren, and I am willing to do it if I can reel in a few more. I worked for software companies for nearly 15 years, do systems design myself, live across the street from Microsoft, and the area is teeming with those high caste refugees from India. I know the game from the capitalist side pretty well, and the "free" model of Google was Bill Gates's biggest nightmare. Crushing Netscape using the "free" model (and monopoly price everything else) did not work out quite like he anticipated. The entire Internet culture is something very new and unusual, but the enemies of freedom are moving to lock it all back down, as is evident. I am trying to take advantage of this opportunity while I can.

In the FE milieu, activists want to Open Source FE technology for the same reason that Free Software people do their thing, it seems. The economic arguments for Free Software (non-rival, etc.) are less compelling than the "freedom" ones, although both are obviously intimately related, and politics has always ridden on the back of economics (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics). But Open Sourcing and giving away FE will be a very different task from coding. Working prototypes in the FE milieu have not meant much (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demonstrate), as they are quickly sequestered by a variety of means, as Godzilla's (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) playbook is thick and older than I am. Open Sourcing and giving it away (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers) may be the only way that it can work. Develop the most lucrative technology in world history and give it away. Similar to Sauron never suspecting that the Fellowship would choose to destroy the One Ring rather than use it, Godzilla can scarcely imaging somebody really having FE and giving it away to the world. It would be his greatest nightmare, but he can awaken from his dark dream, too.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
18th August 2015, 02:08
Wade,
Very very quickly. My brain dump, please excuse the lack of coherence.



I just re-read your fifth epoch. I am not sure if the effort of writing open letter 2.0 will pay off. The way I am thinking could involve a lot of research (I know what is important, but since its your voice you have to spend time reading them, I spent a lot of time reading in this area it could eat a lot of your time, the good news (if any) is that I have documented all the reading material in this thread.)

Here are my thoughts.

You could start by explaining how, to be human is to copy and improve on what came before. All the epoch changes came from small populations inventing and then spreading it via education/copying etc..

the hunter gatherer epoch was also a great waste of brains, of course energy dictates that outcome.
The agricultural epoch was characterized by not sharing knowledge by the elites and therefore wasting brains, because of lack of enough energy surplus. The industrial epoch is different, we now have energy surplus but we choose to spend it on oppression and still continue to waste brain power. Our lives are better with more individuals who are educated, yes there is competition but also innovation and copying which is far more important for quality of life. FOSS communities/wikipedia are always asking why are underrepresented communities not contributing, how can we help them contribute etc… They realize that an educated world is a better world.


You could go into non-rival, anti-rival goods and explain how free software/wikipedia works and what can be. Eben Moglen is looked upto because of how inspiring his speeches can be.
This will accomplish 2 things it will give you reputation as somebody who needs to be heard, just like the scientists who like your big essay.
Secondly people who are afraid of FE will see that they don’t need to be afraid. They have been taught all their lives that copyright/patents etc.. are good for them (reminds me of cigarets are good for you), and you can show a new world where there are no copyrights and they can see for themselves the abundance of digital goods.

You could show how copyright is a racket just like numerous other rackets.

Sure one could read The Wealth of Networks, Free Software Free Society, Democratizing innovation etc… etc…but your comprehensive and unique voice could put it all together in ways not seen before.

Very few open source people and only a subset of free software people really understand how things work w.r.t. software /wikipedia production
helping them understand might help you find choir members. Likewise people outside the FOSS movements have no idea about its importance (that Indian charity) but there are people who could be helped along the path of thinking about abundance by demonstrating how intellectual commons works. Wikipedia/FOSS can be explained as a showcase of how abundance can work in the FE era and also make them less fearful of FE.



Eben Moglen is a fantastic advocate for education, sharing software and understanding the implication of intellectual commons etc…https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Free_and_Open_Software:_Paradigm_for_a_New_Intellectual_Commons

“How many of the Einsteins who ever existed were permitted to learn physics?”. And people think “Well, maybe one, maybe two – maybe Isaac Newton was another Einstein…” but of course the answer is “Almost none”; so few, in fact, that we know the names of them.
[Laughter]
Which, had we educated all the Einsteins in the world, in physics, since the beginning, we couldn’t do, because there would be so many of them. And what we think of as the extraordinary characteristics of genius are primarily merely the selection function applied to human diversity, through radical injustice in access to the ability to learn. Which means, of course, that we know that – smart guys as we all are – we are really only thefraction of the smart guys in the world who’ve been allowed to learn anything, in a world where there are six billion people, most of whom will never be able to go to school. And their brains will starve to death.

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 04:29
Hi Freeknowledge:

I see what you are driving at, to try to couch the Epochal Events (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) in language that your FS comrades understand, and using concepts familiar to them. I can try something along those lines, but that can be a delicate dance, as energy can be at risk of being seen as ancillary to freedom, when energy is the means to freedom. And yes, it means some study, and not sure when I will find the time. I can put it into my stack of things to do.

Some find the Third Epochal Event (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) the most important and interesting one, as that is when civilization appeared. Elites, professions, metals, cities, farms, and so on. Pretty big stuff for the human journey. If you study the rise of complex life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#animals), from a geochemical and geophysical perspective, eukaryotic (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mitochondria) life was not "necessary," as prokaryotic (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#prokaryote) life was doing fine, although plants caused more erosion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#river1), which provided more nutrients to the ocean. Eukaryotic life is more of a frill than necessary for Earth's life, and one day, it will be back to unicellular life before Earth loses its life as the Sun grows into a red giant.

Similarly, elites were never necessary for civilization (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear), but they were opportunists who commandeered the energy surplus for their lifestyles, and they exploited the masses to do so. They appeared when civilization did, and they will disappear with the Fifth Epochal Event (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear), and that is why Godzilla (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) has suppressed FE like he has: he sees it as survival. But he is willing to kill a planet to keep his ill-gotten position, although cooler heads may prevail (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mars).

Just like Dennis and Brian had the Eye of Sauron focused on them at times, and the orcs were set on Dennis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm) more than once, the Black Hats and White Hats are watching my efforts. The people who gave my pal a show (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) were cheering him on, and if an effort of mine actually builds a functioning choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), it will encourage those technologies to come in from the shadows. That is just one side-effect that the choir can catalyze. I know that what I am doing does not seem like much to the uninitiated. When I think back to driving across the USA, chasing Dennis (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr), after the flaming disaster in Seattle (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle), if you had told me what was in store for us in the next few years, I would not have believed it. Within a few months, we were being offered $10 to go away (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten), and the next year, they raised the "offer (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer)" to a billion. That is how important this issue is to the global elite, and I know how that snowball can form. I rolled one once. :)

I no longer have Dennis in my camp, but I know that what I am doing can make a dent, if I can find enough people with the right stuff and train them. On the scale of these events and its potential impact on the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), what I ask of my readers is trifling.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
18th August 2015, 14:27
Wade,
You write "The rise of the human species was dependent on exploiting new energy sources by using intelligence and manipulative ability.”
As can be seen from my thoughts on education, I see education as the mere spread of intelligence, and the spread of intelligence determines our living standards subordinated to availability of energy. Anything stopping the spread of intelligence stops the improvements of our living standards, after all the education of Japan, Korea, China, India has only been a positive for Europeans and the World. As opposed to narrow assessments of competition see following quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/24/opinion/doing-our-homework.html

"When I was growing up, my parents told me, 'Finish your dinner. People in China and India are starving.' I tell my daughters, 'Finish your homework. People in India and China are starving for your job.’” Thomas Friedman


I am not necessarily asking you to target FS people. Beyond FOSS, there are Free Culture people (Nina Paley for e.g.) and people who want kids in the developing world to be educated, all of them would be thrilled to read an essay on why sharing of knowledge is useful for society of course this is second to the energy issue, but it helps to rope them into thinking about FE. You also mentioned that in the FE era at least a third of the people would work (if they choose to work) on creative endeavors and sharing and building on each others work (since there won’t be copyright and hoarding, which is precisely what FS/FC/FK is about) the technologies, art, knowledge that we would enjoy would be astounding, and the FS/FC/FK movements show us a glimpse of the future.
The Roads future is 300 years in the future. Maybe you could blend the existing and imagine something in the near future that is more easily imaginable, for those of us who can’t imagine Roads futures (positive ones).


Also I forgot to say, in the past US did not recognize foreign patents/copyrights. So Charles Dickens works were public domain in US. He still made more money in US because he sold gave the first copy to the US publisher who paid the highest amount. The publisher would then saturate the market by releasing the book all over the US simultaneously. After that cheap copies would show up, but both the author and publisher made money. Likewise at that time you could patent even very well known ideas from world in US as long as nobody in the US knew that idea, this was a way to encourage immigration of talent to US.

So while the rhetoric of US is about stealing today, US was built on copying from the rest of the world and they had every moral right to do so.

Krishna
18th August 2015, 15:09
Robert Verzola a Filipino is a good resource on the intellectual commons issues, I particularly like
The piracy of intellectuals
(https://rverzola.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/the-piracy-of-intellectuals/)
"Pirating a computer program is quite different from pirating a doctor. When the U.S. pirates our doctors, it doesn’t take a copy and leave the original behind. Instead, it takes the original and leaves nothing behind."

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 15:23
Hi Freeknowledge:

My website is nothing but an educational tool, made during seven of the most economically productive years of my life, as I worked for free (and all of my "spare" time for a quarter-century), so I get the value of education. :) On visionary futures, my big essay is really several hundred pages of education so that this chapter (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) is understood as well as possible. As far as visionary goes, I been told by people who should know that there is nothing like that chapter on Earth, and people do not need to read Roads (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748) to understand, but digesting the big essay before that chapter will be very helpful for making that chapter comprehensible.

I scientist pal began this PowerPoint presentation (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanityppt.pdf) that I finished off. I have a presence at Avalon and Scott's forum (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?48-Healed-Planet), for readers to interact with me. Some of my essays have even been translated into Spanish (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/homesp.htm) (and my translator may be foolhardy enough to translate my big essay into Spanish :) ). For the readers I seek, I am meeting them way more than halfway. Those who need it spoon-fed to them more than that are not going to be in my target audience. I am not trying to reach the masses. The people I seek will encounter my work, dive in, and not come up for air for months or years. People who don't do that are not going to have what I am looking for, in order for my choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) idea to work. People looking for quick and easy answers are not in my target audience. The people that I seek can be as few as one-in-a-million for my plan to work. I am not going to water down my work for the masses. I played the mass movement game (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) several times already, carrying the spears of the best of the best. Never again. I eventually learn. :)

Again, FE newbies always try to interest their social circles (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), and if they are not ostracized (careers can end from FE proselytizing), they will find that nobody is interested, or they have their circuits fried in minutes. I have witnessed it many times. My work is not for the masses, and really never was. They have way too many delusions to shed, delusions that feed them (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), and they will only begin to wake up (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli) when FE is delivered into their lives (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink). It was this way (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) for every Epochal Event (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), and I don’t expect it to be any different this time. That kind of inertia and denial, especially among scientists, academics, and "progressives," is what led Brian to wonder if humanity is a sentient species (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience), but it does no good to judge humanity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1) in its semi-sentient and egocentric blindness. It is just what it is. I seek very rare people (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), and I know it.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 15:37
Hi:

As I have written, the day after the USA nuked Hiroshima (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping), journalists began writing about the potential of nuclear energy, and it was a key topic of discussion among various political groups for several years (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#reactions), and the USA kept up with its nuclear evangelism until the 1970s (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall). When FE is delivered into people's lives, and not before, people will quickly begin to wake up. But getting there is the hard part, and people without any technology development experience think that we can get there via garage tinkerers. We can't, and the sooner that FE newbies shed that delusion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demonstrate), the better.

Best,

Wade

Meggings
18th August 2015, 15:57
Well now, a thought just occurred to me to see what Wade Frazier says, to check out for myself Mr. Frazier and his thread, and here in the post above I see the word "Roads". Immediately I wondered if you are referring to Michael Roads, the fellow who beguiled me decades ago with his becoming part of "blackberry consciousness" and later, stretching as a cloud to grow bigger, and how he made an agreement with the kangaroos that they could have space around his fields for themselves while he had the crop (because he was sickened by how the farmers would gather at night in trucks with big lights to startle the roos and kill them as they ate in their cultivated fields...)

Thank you, Mr. Frazier, for I went to find the book you referred to ("Into a Timeless Realm") and in the descriptive blurb for it is this: His physical self remained in bed recording the amazing events experienced by his metaphysical self which – in his Light-body – crossed into a timeless realm.

I sigh in relief to read this, for it is what I've done for many, many years. I try to explain this to family and it falls flat; mostly family just drifts away if I try to share some experiences. I always knew it was something human beings can do, and that more and more people will be having these multi-dimensional experiences.

My post does little but share a smile of recognition, and a thank you for persisting in communicating about non-standard-paradigm stuff.

(edited to add that it is post 5540 I am referring to here)

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 16:04
Hi Freeknowledge:

As Chomsky has stated, Western states grew due to what we call piracy today, especially the USA. Heck, our greatest founding fathers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms) were mass-murdering thieves, and the greatest achievement of our first president was developing the plan to steal a continent (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), and my ancestors eagerly profited from it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#familyname), and you and I are beneficiaries of that immense crime, as we live on that stolen land, in history's richest and most powerful nation. All piracy is theft (Chomsky's Pirates and Emperors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_and_Emperors) has a cute title and premise), but some is more harmful to the victim than others, and theft of the fruits of intellectual and artistic effort is common. But it still is theft. If the artist/intellectual wants to give it away, as I have (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), then fine, but I don't condone theft. Every thief comes up with a rationale for his/her crime.

In an FE-based world (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), the idea of copyrights, trademarks, patents (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent), etc., will become obsolete, taking their place with slavery and other historic obstructions to abundance and freedom. But I do not advocate coercion, which is the opposite of freedom. I get the poor stealing from the rich, as a way to "balance" the scales in humanity's rigged game, but my aim is far higher, to where everybody on Earth has a lifestyle that makes Bill Gates appear a pauper, and the idea of "mine" will not extend much further than our bodies. As we see in the abysmal poverty in places such as India, Africa, and Latin America, they often do not even control their bodies, as their organs are robbed, various forms of coerced servitude still exist, etc. When everybody is richer than a king, thievery and coercion will go the way of slavery. Black markets like these (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-13/1300-tiger-penis-800k-snipers-complete-black-market-price-guide) will cease to exist.

With FE, my vision (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) becomes eminently feasible, almost inevitable, but without FE, it is not possible (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity). It all hinges on energy, and the nugget of integrity and sentience that I hope to amass, or somebody else doing it. I am not the only game in town, but nobody else is trying what I am, so far.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 16:14
Hi Meggings:

I had the privilege of meeting Mr. Roads in the mid-1990s, and I know people who can do what he does, scientists and inventors, even. I have done enough of my own "weird stuff (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#research)" to have a pretty good idea of what human consciousness can do, or at least get an inkling of it. Your abilities are "normal," if rarely developed in the West, in our materialistic age, and I understand your loneliness, as nobody is home around you. Mainstream science has yet to wake up on that score (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness2). But when FE busts the paradigm of the Fourth Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4), people like you will not be so strange. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 16:37
Your wish (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989960&viewfull=1#post989960) is my command (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), Freeknowledge. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th August 2015, 18:13
Hi:

Before I head out the door to work, I need to make myself crystal clear. I have seen many alternative physics models over the years, and mention one of them in my work (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fephysics), but that does not mean I endorse it, but I just used it as one example of many. There are many Captain Ahabs of FE out there, with their harpoons in hand, on the hunt. People can really get stuck in the FE physics rabbit hole. Theory is theory, and theory of the Velikovskian kind (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#velikovsky), for instance, I strongly doubt is valid, but plenty of fringe authors have devoted their lives to it, and I wish them the best. I am far more interested in technology and evidence than theory, and much of the "fringe" technology that I have been involved with defies orthodox theory, and nobody can really say why it works, and that includes those microscopes with their "impossible (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#microscopes)" resolutions (coming soon in my vaccination posts) and Brown's Gas (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull). Dennis's heat pump did not defy the "laws of physics," but the inventors still had to cut their performance data in half (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seven) so that they would stop getting laughed out of engineering offices for their heat pump's "impossible" performance. Whether heat pumps and heat engines can produce FE is an open question to me, and keener minds than mine not only thought it was possible, but we went after it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#marry), before we were wiped out.

Those deriders are the professional descendants of those who ignored and ridiculed the Wright brothers for five years after they first flew (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wright), and soon before Brian O died (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#death), he told me that the blindness and denial of the scientific establishment today is worse than a century ago.

Sparky Sweet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) wrote a paper (http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/1nothing.htm) to describe the physics of how his gizmo operated (he actually wrote a book with a mathematician, which Mr. Advisor read (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet) and was extremely impressed with, but it is not publicly available, as far as I know), but all that Sparky really knew was that it worked. How and why it worked was still a mystery to him. Practice being way ahead of theory is typical in the history of science and technology. Steam engines (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#steamengine1) were around for more than a century before anybody tried to establish the theoretical framework (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#carnot) to describe why they worked.

All that I know is that FE exists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) and that the organized suppression of it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) is a very real phenomenon, and that some of the leading lights of physics thought that empty space was not empty (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fe) and that the ZPF was harvestable (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bohm). That should be enough for FE newbies to realize that there is nothing theoretically "impossible" about FE, and I happen to know it exists and is likely older than I am, but you are not going to find out by surfing the Internet and listening to fringe authors spin their theories. Most of them are invalid, anyway, which is an endemic issue on the fringes. There are more important things for FE newbies to spend their time on (such as studying my big essay (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm) :) ).

I am not interested in the FE physics debates that are in cyberspace, or the many alternative physics models. I understand the gist of them, and who knows which one is right, if any of them are? Anybody with any awareness of the scientific process and today's state-of-the-art knows that mainstream physics rests on some pretty questionable foundations (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#orthodox), and mainstream physics and cosmology in a century will only vaguely resemble today's, especially if any of those exotic technologies leave Godzillas' Golden Hoard anytime soon.

FE newbies often get all spun up in the theories out there, FE inventors who claim that they are the Messiah (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah), and so on, and mistakenly think that I have any interest in any of that. I don't. Lots of chatter and Sturm und Drang out there, and vast majority of it adds up to nothing. Been there, done that. I have already stated about all I am willing to (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/71-My-stock-answer-to-most-FE-inquiries-about-inventors-and-current-FE-efforts?p=114&viewfull=1#post114) about the FE milieu and its inventors/theorists. I am doing something different, and those who need FE delivered to their homes in order to "believe" are not in my target audience. I seek worldlier people than that.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
18th August 2015, 20:32
Hi Freeknowledge:
theft of the fruits of intellectual and artistic effort is common. But it still is theft. If the artist/intellectual wants to give it away, as I have (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), then fine, but I don't condone theft. Every thief comes up with a rationale for his/her crime.

In an FE-based world (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), the idea of copyrights, trademarks, patents (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent), etc., will become obsolete, taking their place with slavery and other historic obstructions to abundance and freedom. But I do not advocate coercion, which is the opposite of freedom. I get the poor stealing from the rich, as a way to "balance" the scales in humanity's rigged game, but my aim is far higher, to where everybody on Earth has a lifestyle that makes Bill Gates appear a pauper, and the idea of "mine" will not extend much further than our bodies.

Wade,
Coming from you, this is the most painful post to read, almost like a dagger through the heart. Do you have any more disagreements with what I wrote regarding/about FS/FC/FK.

Once you are done putting them down in this thread, I will respond. (No hurry could be next month, or next year, just let me know when you have fully processed my previous writing on this subject).

Looks like I will be stuck explaining Free Software/Free Culture/Free Knowledge for a while.

Ilie Pandia
18th August 2015, 22:33
Looks like I will be stuck explaining Free Software/Free Culture/Free Knowledge for a while.

Freeknowledge, if I may... the quote you just wrote I think is a key aspect of what is going on.

So many people on the planet are stuck into explanations and debates and rationales that ultimately do not matter. And I do not say that to patronize you, to antagonize you, or to invalidate your view point. As a software developer (and yes, even a contributor to open source software and even some free software) you have some of my attention.

I think that what Wade is trying to say, but for some reason says it in a somewhat convoluted way, is that there are a lot of debates on the planet today. Many very "fierce", very promoted and in your face, very charged! The purpose of these debates is two fold: to give the illusion of freedom and to keep people distracted.

Example: having a very legal and rational debate about how to best improve the living conditions of slaves made a lot of sense some time ago. Maybe studies were made, things were tried out and so on. But such debate was hiding a deeper truth: nobody was debating if slavery itself is required, or how to get the energy surplus to make it obsolete? Do you see what I mean? Are you willing to have a discussion about Free Software not being required at all?

What would you say to someone in a house that is burning and they are being stuck on explaining to the fireman whether they should use the windows or the doors for extraction? Is that a debate you would be interested in?

The thing is, with Abundant and Unlimited Energy the word "Free" will make absolutely no sense and all the debate that Stallman is currently engaging in (and I don't doubt his character or passion) will become irrelevant. I think that is the key really. How relevant or important "Free <place holder>" is, when you have Unlimited energy? And my understanding is that not relevant at all as the concept of "Free stuff" will not even make sense.

With that mind, it seems to me that Wade's current interest is one debate, and one debate only: energy and it's fundamental role in how this world works. Everything else is noise. Including the FOSS stuff. And again, I do not say that to offend, just to present my point of view, as I understand it.

My one remaining "issue" at this time, and the reason I am currently not as active on this thread is that I think that a debate or study of "consciousness" (and not conscience that rides on energy surplus) may be a prerequisite to Energy Surplus. Wade kind of hints in that direction when he says his target audience has to have awakened enough to see through the materialism and at least some of their conditioning.

Some ascended masters also make a good point from: your state of consciousness is the discssion and everything else is noise (including energy). And at this point in my life, I am looking at the two. I think I am seeing what Wade is getting at, but at the same time I get some fleeting glimpses of what the ascended masters are hinting at as well.

I hope you will see that what Wade suggests has the potential to be the ultimate healing tool/process and not a dagger to the heart, but in doing so, yes, some old conditioning and ideologies need to go away. And that may include FOSS.

Krishna
19th August 2015, 00:30
Ilie,
I do understand what Wade is trying to do..... on thinking again maybe not. Wade can you clarify.

What I understand
1) I read all of Wade's website years ago, and checked out a lot of the references including read Fuller's Utopia, Grunch of Giants, Chomsky and other references.
2) Recently I read his big essay and read a bunch of references (incomplete for sure).
3) I do understand the role of energy, if Wade gives me a test on the big essay I am sure to pass in flying colors (I know ego talking, but I really do get it).
4) I am lacking in mystical experience, and my materialism, rationalism, scientism is a handicap

After reading Wade today I can say with confidence he does not fully understand what I am talking about when I write about FS/FC/FK.
And that saddens me, given his enormous reading, breadth of understanding and intelligence. Wade always understood me without much explanation.

The choir needs to be worldly and have a comprehensive understanding. Which means understanding the socio-political-economic climate of today. If you don't understand that then you don't understand why Wade got shut down or why we don't have FE. My effort in talking about FS/FC/FK was about losing our blinders, forgetting the illusions we have been fed in order to explain and understand the socio-political-economic reality using energy lenses.

The question I have for Wade is: Should the choir try to understand and talk about socio-political-economic reality in order to up their understanding of the world? Should I talk/write about it or not?

If you read the story of Ekalavya (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekalavya) I don't think that he should have given his thumb to Dronacharya.

Krishna
19th August 2015, 01:45
Hi Freeknowledge:

I see what you are driving at, to try to couch the Epochal Events (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) in language that your FS comrades understand, and using concepts familiar to them. I can try something along those lines, but that can be a delicate dance, as energy can be at risk of being seen as ancillary to freedom, when energy is the means to freedom.
Wade

Wade,

I am not really targeting FS people. The target as I envision it is broader. The essay is not open letter 2.0 but something entirely different. I am thinking of an essay like
"Cultural transmission of intelligence in Epochs, and its role in Epochal transitions (once the energy required for the next transition is achieved)"


The spread of education or in other words the cultural transmission of innovations/intelligence is the lever on which the transitions between epochs happen. Slow down the cultural transmission and you slow down the transition from one epoch to another. This is true of every epoch, they are invented only once (or a few times) and cultural transmission of the inventions eventually transitions the world to the next era. While it is true that energy availability determines whether the transition actually happens and whether it stays in an epoch or collapses back to the previous epoch. It is the levels of intelligence embedded in a society and the change in those levels that determines whether the transition takes and at what rate it transitions over to the next epoch. I read your essay but I did not find too many data points on how much time it took to transition between epochs and why it took the time it took. India, Africa could be said to be still transitioning from agricultural epoch to industrial epoch they question of why is not fully answered. Colonialism is part of it no doubt, inertia of societies is part of it, my belief is that it is education in the broader sense of cultural transmission of innovations that really explains the differing rate of transition (apart from colonialism, and even there Japanese colonialism is different, they educated their subject peoples better than Britain for e.g. this partly explains why Korea is a developed country, likewise Kerala had a head start because the queen of Tranvancore took an interest in education before India's independence). I would say that FS/FC/FK are merely the new flavor/word for the very old behavior of cultural transmission. In other words, its the same thing.

As you wrote Energy, cultural transmissions and manipulative ability explain the human journey. Your big essay explains Energy very well, and it does explain cultural transmissions also but not at great depth. I am thinking that you could write an ancillary essay about the cultural transmission of intelligence from an epochal/energy context and in the context of transitions between epochs. I find the new FS/FC/FK cultural transmission notoriously difficult to explain so you will not be watering down for the masses, it will blow enough fuses that only the truly interested will be able to deal with it.

Manipulative ability as I understand it, is about having thumbs and hands so that we can build tools, and living on land which allows us to modify our environment unlike dolphins and whales, I don't see an essay on that topic.

Wade Frazier
19th August 2015, 02:19
Hi:

Guys, if I did not think that you may be important to my choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) idea, we would not be having these exchanges. Let me have the floor here for a few days, and I think I can clear this up, make my stance clear (I think it is, but I am continually surprised at how people don’t understand, and I see my work misrepresented all the time), and we can continue with these delightful exchanges. Sorry for my part in any misunderstandings. Give me a few days.

A little confession: this last weekend was my first "time off" in a month, and almost all I did was catch up on bills, household and yard chores, etc. I literally did not have a day off for a month, and I am getting too old to do it. My typical state at night is exhaustion, and I look forward to going to bed almost more than anything. I have people pulling at me from all directions, wanting my time and energy, and they can get pissed when they don’t think they get what they "deserve" from me. All the while, I am trying to save the world, and almost nobody is rowing with me, but dragging me their baggage and asking me to sort through it, or grinding their axes. Busy times. :)

As far as Freeknowledge goes, I have asked for what he is doing, as part of honing his chops and providing his background for how he got here, as I had Darren and Ilie do (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/forums/23-Forum-Member-Introduction). We will get this cleared up soon, but it will take several long posts from yours truly.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
19th August 2015, 15:04
Hi:

OK, I have a little time this morning. I am going to tackle Ilie's post first, as it will help tackle Freeknowledge's. This is going to take a few days of my "spare" time. Not long ago, Gripreaper wrote a brilliant little post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=963594&viewfull=1#post963594) on his interpretation of the meaning of life, and how life here is about learning to manage our energy as a way to develop our consciousness. I'll buy that. As I wrote, consciousness and energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness) are the only two things that we know exist in this universe (and mainstream science does not know what either of them is :) ). I'll buy the polarity and duality, and how beings learn via living at the extremes, and eventually decide to live in balance, as they become sentient (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1). :)

It is hard to distill a lifetime of this stuff into a few pithy posts, but here goes. Another way to see that polarity, especially in what I am doing, is the tendency to be a hard-core materialist on one end or to float off into all sorts of airy-fairy "mystical" stuff, which is not in the least part practical, on the other. The saying, of being so heavenly bound that one is no earthly good, is an appropriate way to illustrate this. That is also why I say that some scientific literacy (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) is going to be a choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) requirement. My work is about making a real world impact, not purveying sweet-sounding New Age nostrums. But we cannot go there if we are not grounded in physical reality. This reality is here for a reason, as is our presence here.

I say that a mystical awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) may well be required to understand these issues, but I also counsel people such as SL to get grounded. A mystical awakening is not just becoming open to the idea that there is more to consciousness than the materialistic musings of scientists, but a mystical awakening awakens something in people that goes far past the intellect. If you want to call it intuition, I can get with that. If you want to call it the heart, or love, I can get with that, too. If you want to call it gaining access to the Creative Moment (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash), I am down with that, too. If you want to call it enlightenment, I am there, too. If you want to call it an awareness of non-physical dimensions, that also works for me. If you want to say that all of them are aspects of the same ineffable state, I can get with that most of all. It is not easy to describe, and words are a poor way to go about this business, but it is what we have to work with these days, in this medium. For people such as Ilie and Freeknowledge, English is not even their mother tongue, so there are all sorts of ways for misunderstandings to creep into our exchanges, even though Freeknowledge lives in the USA. I have lived in the American culture for my entire life, only speak one language, and that is bound to color my perceptions in ways that Freeknowledge's and Ilie's have not.

For all of the heights of awareness that a person can achieve on Earth, we still need to eat, and this is where that mystical/physical duality comes into play. Magical New Age (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage) thinking is not going to help humanity turn the corner, and have no doubt, we are at the corner today (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age3), with our toes over the edge of the abyss, ready to wipe out the ecosphere and take ourselves with it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth). People who do not understand that have their heads in the sand. Godzilla knows it well (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mars), and that is likely why members of his disenchanted faction gave my friend a little show (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground). As Michael (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) says, a third of ensouled species that can manipulate their environments wipe themselves out right at the juncture that humanity is at today, at the biggest transition that an ensouled species ever makes, from Young to Mature (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age) soul awareness, where we turn the corner from outward focus to inward focus. Here we are, on the cusp of the inner and outer awareness. FE can make all of those species-and-planet-threatening dynamics go away, almost overnight. But we won't get there, or at least the choir won’t, using the same semi-sentient means that abound among "activists" who act like victims instead of creators, and creators create with love, as love is the energy of Creation (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest), the source of All That Is. Michael says, with eerie detachment, that if humanity destroys the surface of the planet (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=945733&viewfull=1#post945733) in its energy quest and fearful lack of sentience, our souls will likely "only" incarnate into another life form in another star system, and we will choose a life form that cannot manipulate its environment (such as cetaceans (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#dolphins) cannot), and finish up our incarnation cycle. But that is anything but "only," and is a huge detour on the soul's journey, to start over like that. As Michael would say, that is a valid "choice," too, and great learning attends even the "worst" decisions, but I would prefer something different, such as this (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). A primary purpose of my work is to let people know that we do have a choice, and not the self-extermination one (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity) that doomsayers offer, in their various addictions to scarcity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation), or the "choice" of being a blindly stampeding member of the Great Global Herd, mindlessly responding to the carrots and sticks of the social managers who work on behalf of the elite.

If people have not been mystically awakened, they tend to play intellectual games of mental masturbation with this stuff, and really don’t get it. This can be very subtle and slippery terrain to navigate, and I found that if a person's heart is not in the right place, he/she can't understand. When people are ego-focused and in fear, the soul-based lessons of the heart are lost to them. Today's dominant ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) are all in-group (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) ideologies rooted in fear and survival in a world of scarcity. Dennis played to the Big Three in the USA (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#obvious): capitalism, nationalism, and organized religion, and I saw how they did not work. People adhere to those ideologies out of fear and self-interest, and are fed them from the cradle (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded). People in that state were not only easily defeated by organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), but they usually destroy the effort from within before Godzilla even rolls out of bed, as they all turn into orcs lusting after the One Ring. I learned those lessons the hard way (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). One day soon, I am going to put all of those vignettes that I wrote over the summer on one thread in my forum, to distill it into a more potent presentation.

For twenty years, I was really into channeled material, and for the past twenty, not so much. Channeling is a very real and valid phenomenon, let there be no doubt about it, as I discovered firsthand long ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#meetseth), and has produced the most enlightened bodies of material that I ever encountered, but there is chaff amongst that wheat, too. I have written about what I considered to be the best bodies of material that I encountered in that milieu, which include Seth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth), Michael (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael), and Ra (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#ra). People who try to find contradictions between them, to invalidate them all, do not yet understand (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#teachings). As one pal said, take the best, and leave the rest. Only after I was mystically awakened would that material have made much sense to me, and I cannot overemphasize that, which is why I say that people need mystical awakenings, first, before they dive in. For older souls, gaining mystical awakenings is not that difficult, and younger souls will not have much talent or interest. People who study that stuff and come away with new rationales for violence and coercion (even of that ultimate "bad guy" Godzilla (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc)) are in thrall to fear and younger soul delusions, such as those Young Warriors (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors). They are more harm than good for efforts such as mine.

Of the many gold nuggets that I mined from channeled material, one of Seth's dictums became one of the stars that I steered by before I ever met Dennis, and I witnessed the truth of that nugget many times, and it was one of the reasons why I survived my adventures (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) with my sanity more or less intact: the means become the ends. That is not just a nice, New Agey idea, but comes from an awareness of how Creation functions. I read it in my early 20s, and it is still about the best statement I have seen (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist) on how to make something like FE happen. Most so-called activists do not understand, usually because they are mired in materialism, think like victims, and want to take out the "bad guys." When they think that way, they are defeated before they even begin. That mentality epitomizes the rad left, I am sorry to say, and the best of them (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#left) often openly admit their position (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#coerce).

In summary, an awareness has formed the bedrock of my energy activism since before I became an activist, and it does not get more "active" than what Dennis, Mr. Professor, and I (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) wrought during our life-risking and life-shortening adventures, and this is another area where experience may be the only teacher. I learned lessons that probably cannot be learned in any other way, but hardly anybody can survive that "curriculum," and I don’t advocate that anybody even try those paths unless they consider their life forfeit before they begin. I also generally exclude young men from much choir consideration, as they tend to stupidly throw their lives away, not yet being acquainted with their mortality, their brains are not yet fully developed, and they are brimming with the power of their young bodies, and generally want to mate with anything that moves. They are most susceptible to Young Warrior delusions, which is why they make ideal cannon fodder (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business).

On the path of sentience and energy manipulation, some will learn how to get their energy directly from The Source and not need to eat. Indeed, there may be people like that on Earth today, and I call them Level 19s (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19). But almost nobody, in any incarnation on the physical plane, ever achieves that in their incarnation cycles. Heck, there may not even be any in that heavenly Roads World (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), which I have no doubt is a valid reality, however enlightened and loving those people are. People who think that we are all going to "ascend," give up eating, and the like are in thrall to those New Age, airy-fairy notions. The fact of the matter is that 99.999% of us will likely never reach that state in any of our incarnations, and what is wrong with that?

I have experienced Level 19 energy, in highly charged situations (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hands1) that you can't duplicate, so I know it is real, but I won’t give up eating in this lifetime. Some have honed those innate abilities to world-class levels (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#chang), and more power to them, but if it is not rooted in love, it can go awry in ways that can see souls spends dozens of lifetimes in penance, and I may be speaking from experience (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#atlantis) on that subject. These are areas that probably only Old Souls can safely navigate, as I have been told I am (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading), and I'll buy it, and younger soul aversion to that stuff may well be the wisdom of their souls speaking.

I reached many realizations during my early training (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm), adventures, and subsequent study (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), and they are evident all over my work. Even as I was a teenager, after my mystical awakening, I watched the battles between Creationists and Evolutionists with consternation, as two fundamentalist camps went after each other. Each has a grasp on an aspect of The Truth, they chew on each end of it, but cannot see the bigger picture of what they are chewing on. That is the polarity issue, once again. Those who think that we all have to become enlightened before we get the benefit of FE are ignorant of how all the previous Epochal Events (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) happened, and they are mired in social consciousness. The social approach will not work for this (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), as people are social for pre-sentient reasons (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#grooming). I learned that the hard way, as I carried Dennis's and Brian's spears for several social approach efforts (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10). I had my life completely wrecked playing those games, with my own parents even campaigning against me (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492). They trained me to be a Golden Boy, and when I was at my most golden (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr), they attacked me. I cannot overemphasize the perils of that approach, and people who proselytize to their social circles about FE are risking their relationships and even their careers. But FE newbies invariably contact their social circles, proselytizing about FE and abundance, and are invariably dismayed by the reactions that they receive. Every one of my best pupils has done that, it is a normal reaction (I did it, too! :) ), and they all got a snootful of what I write about, and it not only began to wise them up, but they began to realize that maybe I know a little about what I am writing about. :)

Every Epochal Phase of the human journey was catalyzed by tapping a new energy source, and the economic, social, cognitive, and even anatomical changes happened as a result. They were effects, not causes, although feedback effects (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gaia) amplified or diminished them. Slavery did not end until it became economically obsolete (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#southseas) (and did not begin until it became economically practical (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slaverybeginning)), not because of some global bout of conscience out of nowhere. This is where practical aspects of the real world can complement mystical understandings, and arrive at something that might be called wisdom. Although some found enlightenment at Auschwitz, for 99.999% of them, it was an indescribable horror (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=945905&viewfull=1#post945905). If humanity makes Earth uninhabitable by anything other than microbes and some arthropods, Michael said that those most responsible for the situation would incarnate onto their dying planet as a way to experience the result that they worked so hard to achieve, whether they were blindly pursing self-interest (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) or not, as a learning experience for their souls. That is one hell of a way to learn, like Einstein saying that nuclear energy was one hell of a way to boil water.

This is all prelude to specifically addressing Ilie's and Freeknowledge's recent posts, but I think that a prelude is necessary, and I might not be done with my prelude. For now, it is off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th August 2015, 04:13
Hi:

A little time before I hit the sack. OK, enough of prelude, and I will address Ilie's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990418&viewfull=1#post990418). Well, maybe a little more prelude. :) One channeled statement that sticks with me, many years later, is that all of the lessons that we came here to learn are related to taking care of our bodies. There are no hungry philosophers, and even the masters had to eat. Long ago, when I mentioned the no hungry philosophers statement, one pretty hip pal gainsaid it, stating that gurus had their followers feed them. I did not reply, but wanted to say, "Then the gurus weren’t hungry, were they?" :)

Yes indeed, consciousness is likely the root of all, but raising our awareness here has always been dependent on the energy issue. Without energy, it is game over, on all fronts. Energy and consciousness issue are joined at the hip, and love is the energy of creation. That is the best "mystical" statement that I know of, and the intellect cannot really grasp it, not by itself. The heart leads the way to all worthy understandings.

Yessiree, the central issue of my work is the energy issue, but I also show how intertwined it is with the consciousness issue, throughout my big essay. The first brains were likely in worms (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#worms), and eyes quickly came on the scene, and complex life's arms race was off and running. It is thought that predators usually grew the largest brains, in order to outsmart their prey, and encephalization of reptiles was puttering along before the Permian extinction cleared the field (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#permianextinction), and land vertebrates had to largely start over, and dinosaurs soon came to dominate, and in my lifetime, the view of science of them changed from lumbering and dumb to quick and smart (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#encephalization). Some dinosaurs even had hands, and if not for that bolide event of 66 million years ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction), Earth might host space-faring reptiles, and mammals would still be furtive, small, rat-like fringe-dwellers. Mammals were relatively brainy from the beginning (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mammalsdevelop), but dinosaurs won the energy game and dominated.

When mammals emerged from their holes after that bolide event and rose to dominance, they took over ecological niches that the dinosaurs had, and even looked (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#paraceratherium) eerily similar at times. As the Greenhouse Earth period that existed for 200 million years came to an end (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#icehouse), and paradise was lost, cold-adapted mammals thrived, but two highly encephalized and adaptable animals from Africa did quite well when they got the chance: elephants (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elephantsuccess) and apes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#apemigration). Some of those apes eventually did very well, and I am one of them. The growth of the human-line brain (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1) has plenty of controversy over exactly when and how, but what everybody agrees on is that it was primarily an energy event. Our huge brains are great energy hogs, and without the surplus energy of our tool-using practices, we simply would not have evolved, and there would not be any "masters" waxing eloquently about the nature of consciousness. :)

In very real terms, energy has made us, and the human journey has been all about tool-using to gain greater energy surplus (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus). Everything else is noise. If we don't have the energy surplus, it is game over, as many collapsed and vanished civilizations (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses) discovered the hard way. None of them ascended, unless you want to say that their souls ascended after they starved to death.

We can get philosophical about consciousness, and even do explorations of it (I highly recommend it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#research)), but only surplus energy allows us the luxury of time and creature comforts to do so. If I had not been a member of history's most privileged demographic group, growing up in the most prosperous, energy consumptive era in world history, I sure would not have been able to work for free for a decade, to have my adventures, survive them, and perform the study and writing that resulted in my site. I rode an energy wave the whole way, just as humanity has, but people take it for granted. Heck, most Westerners have absolutely no idea how their world works and how it rides that wave. Incredible, and there is where consciousness comes into play, or the lack of it. As Brian O said, are we a sentient species (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1)? We may be about to find out, for good or ill, and yes indeed, I am asking a small nugget of humanity to reach an unprecedented level of integrity and sentience, and learn to sing the song of abundance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), to help catalyze its appearance, once and for all. The average kid in world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748) makes Einstein seem braindead. They did it through the loving application of energy.

We live in a universe of matter and energy, and gravity keeps us on the ground, and the so-called masters have to deal with it, too. As Michael stated, when the Infinite Spirit manifests, and we may see several manifestations of it in our lifetimes, as humanity tries to turn the corner, it has but one message: We are one (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#nature). That is the message from the Godhead, if you will. Others have said it in different ways ("No divisions of the self" – Seth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth), "Love the enemy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enemy)" – Jesus), but Michael's statement is pithy, too.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th August 2015, 15:08
Hi:

Before I directly deal with Ilie's and Freeknowledge's posts, a little of my background, some of which I have not publicly revealed. There are several patents in my family, and I was mentored by a world-class inventive and scientific genius (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction), whose inventions were sometimes world-shaking. Every single one of his inventions was stolen or suppressed, by either corporations, the federal government, or free-lance thieves. He even had literary work stolen, as the thieves made a national TV show out of it. He never received a dime or any recognition from the thieves (one of his inventions generated billions of dollars in revenues, and you use his technology today). That is how the real world of inventing works. The inventor is almost invariably screwed as the thieves get rich. That is for normal inventing, much less FE inventing.

I was raised in Southern California, worked in LA for five years (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=897335&viewfull=1#post897335), was a movie junkie as a young adult, have many author pals, know many in film and TV (from acting to directing to producing to writing), have pals in the music industry (musicians, producers, etc.), have a 2,000-volume library at home, a huge music library (1600 CDs worth), etc. I am an Artisan soul (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading), and it is reflected in my possessions.

For some examples of what I was aware of long ago, one moviemaker pal (who helped edit my big essay and will be "haunted" by it for the rest of his life) was developing a script in the mid-1980s for a movie that was going to star Willie Nelson, who was in his camp. Somebody stole an early version of the script and made a crappy movie from it, which ruined my pal's effort, and he had to scrap the project. Another instance is when Yull Brown (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull) had a facility in Southern California, trying to get something going, and he was visited for a few days by some Hollywood types who picked his brain on Brown's Gas and his life's story, promising to somehow get him the big money that he needed for his Brown's Gas dreams. Yull never heard back from them, and a few years later, in the middle of Dennis's biggest barnstorming tour (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#philly), when Dennis was promoting Yull like nobody had before or since, those Hollywood types premiered the movie Chain Reaction (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#chain), in which a scientist who looked just like Yull (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=336966&viewfull=1#post336966), with an Asian assistant (some inside humor on the city that China built for Yull), blew up a city with his invention. Those moviemakers never gave Yull a dime or any recognition, other than portraying him as a mad scientist whose invention could blow up a city.

My Hollywood pals told me story after story of the "slime" factor in Hollywood. Those casting couch stories were all-too-real, but that just scratches the surface of how evil and corrupt it all was. I had a pal in porn, too, and the star of one of his movies was an 18-year-old an "angelic-looking" woman who was a Quaalude addict. Many who flock to LA to become "stars" end up in porn to make ends meet, and my porn industry pal wanted to be a Hollywood screenwriter, but made porn movies to make ends meet before he got his "big break," which naturally never came.

My cop pal Gary (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean) also got a snootful of it during his LA days. The movie LA Confidential (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#cohen) is nearly a biography of Gary's career, but the real life stories almost never have Hollywood endings.

One of the many ironies of my journey is that I left Southern California twice, vowing never to return, but I ended up back there both times, and had my life wrecked the last time (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr). Wild horses could not drag me back there, but I am invited all the time to go to Southern California, make movies and TV shows, and I am constantly badgered to publish a book from my essay. No way, no how, and those who constantly advocate those avenues are naïve to the realities that I face. Authors like me, trying for the book deal, get death threats from the military and others, and other fun, even putting aside how corrupt the industry is, being part of the USA's evil media system (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big). It has happened to those around me. My essay and site is a next-generation resource, and will never be published by me in paper form. For one thing, that would mean that my work would no longer be free, which people around me still do not understand, thinking that I should parlay my work into advanced degrees and fame and fortune. Helping make the biggest event in the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) happen with my writings is plenty for this man.

In many ways, publishing a book is counterproductive to what I am trying to do, and even suicidal. I am not going to risk my life anymore, especially to satisfy the naïve. I am risking it already, and am trying to play the game at the level where I do not get on Godzilla's hit list. He is definitely watching me, but does not regard me as an imminent threat. If the choir (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) gets going, that could change, but I have designed my effort so that it is not vulnerable to the many ways that I have seen efforts self-destruct, be easily defeated by a little organized suppression, etc.

During my high tech days, we vended "products" from the music industry, they eventually teamed up with big high-tech players, squeezed us out (nearly putting us out of business) and then sued us over the royalties they thought they were entitled to (over and above what we already paid them – they did very well), and we were in litigation for years with them. A big profit center for the music labels is suing people over copyright infringement, especially those that they do business with. It is a very slimy industry.

I have worked at software companies for 15 years. Not many people on Earth today are more intimately familiar with the fruits of creativity and making a living from them.

But all of that was ancillary to what I learned in my energy days. Dennis was on the brink of a billion dollar deal to carpet the USA with his heat pump (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#billion) when his business partners (and the Mob was involved) stole his business (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco3), but almost more importantly, stole the patent, which blew the deal apart. Years later in Seattle, Dennis found himself talking to the man who stole the patent, as he bragged to Dennis about how clever he was in stealing the patent (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#patent). Dennis just laughed as he heard it, how comically evil it all was, as he realized that it was just not meant to be.

When we began pursuing FE in Boston, one of the first things that Dennis did was publicly give away his heat injector idea (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#develop). In Ventura, we sold the plans to build, market, and install that heat pump. No patent protection for any of it, just go out and build them. The "con" of what Dennis did then was that he could provide all the plans and blueprints in the world, but building a business, even an industry, around that heat pump was only something that Dennis was qualified to do. A hundred companies came and went from that industry before Dennis came along, but only Dennis had the talent and gumption to make it work.

Back in Boston (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#pursuit), we wanted the Big Boys to steal what we were doing, rushing to the FE finish line ahead of us, and we would sit back and say, "Hey, you won!" Wink, nudge. Even then, we had a pretty good idea what the potential of FE was (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), and we knew that the reign of the elites would end with FE (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear). The problem was that they knew it, too, and that is the biggest reason why Godzilla has suppressed FE and related technologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) like he has. But we tried. :)

The federal government funded the development of Mr. Mentor's second patent for his engine (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), promoted it, and a huge federal study (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#study) concluded that it was the best engine in the world, by far, for powering an automobile. Still, it never went anywhere, although some people stole it and built a company to make it, and I think I heard of their fate (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#car) a decade later.

But even back then, I had heard of inventors having their patents seized under the national security laws. In the USA, patents for overunity devices and high-efficiency photovoltaics have effectively been outlawed by the national security laws (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent). Even back in the 1980s, I heard from people who had their stuff seized that way, and all knew, like Ralph McGehee eventually learned with the CIA (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#secrecy), that "national security" is almost never the motivation for seizing those technologies, but is just one tactic of many that Godzilla has for keeping the lid on FE and related technologies, to keep his global racket intact. I believe that Adam Trombly (http://projectearth.com/) had three of his FE technologies seized that way, and in one raid, they seized tens of millions of dollars of lab equipment, to "protect the public," in The Land of the Free. If the inventor does not get the hint, then come death threats and murder attempts, the kind that the naïve are in complete denial about, or "skeptical" of. If those naïve people ever do something productive, they are going to find out the hard way. I am actually in the middle of a process of trying to caution some FE inventors who think they "Have it!", on the realities of FE inventing and development.

Only slightly less naïve and foolish than those inventors in denial of those realities are those who think that they can sneak past the organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level7) or keep their technology proprietary (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#proprietary), making some "secret sauce" invention. Sparky Sweet naively did that (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal), and took his secrets to the grave. When Godzilla sees FE inventors do that, he chuckles, as the inventor is helping Godzilla keep the technology suppressed.

Long before the year 2000, I knew that the patenting, proprietary, and similar avenues were doomed, if not suicidal. By the end of my second stint with Dennis in 1997 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting), I knew that the business approach would not work for FE. It had to be some kind of non-profit charity to have a prayer, and when we founded NEM in 2003 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem), it was a non-profit charity, but that had problems, too, as the leaders wanted to make a living running the charity. I already knew that that approach would not work, which was one reason why I wanted out of NEM long before we staged our conference (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland). The conference mentality (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#conferences), among others, is suicidal in the FE milieu, and that was the last conference that I will ever be involved with.

When Dennis got going in 1994, after getting out of prison (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=964956&viewfull=1#post964956), he used volunteers, but that was also a mixed bag, as he kind of got what he paid for. :)

I have seen the best of the best twist the Rubik's Cube every way imaginable, and when I began to hear about open-sourcing in 1998, when Netscape open-sourced their code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source#The_emergence_of_the_.22open_source.22_term), I lived here in Seattle at the time and had my first stint in high-tech in 1999, so I was well aware of those controversies back in the 1990s and earlier, such as when Bill Gates made the case back in the 1980s that code should be proprietary, and he rode the wave he helped build into becoming the world's richest man.

This was all a subject near-and-dear to my heart when Freeknowledge began informing me that the Free Software Movement would be natural allies for making FE happen, and I eventually had my series of fateful exchanges with the father of Free Software, Richard Stallman (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), and found that he was a heavily entrenched Level 3 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3). Oh, is he ever stuck. I keep all of my emails, and I see that I first heard from Freeknowledge in January 2003, which was during what may have been my life's greatest nightmare, as the USA beat the drums to invade Iraq (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading). He kept badgering me to contact the Free Software Movement, and I had my exchanges with Stallman over a couple of weeks in July 2006, when I also wrote my open letter to the Free Software Movement (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm). I gave up on Richard after more than a dozen exchanges. Our exchanges were polite, if highly frustrating for me. I never publicly revealed my exchanges with Richard until I heard from another member of the Free Software Movement who tried to interest Richard in his FE gizmo, patterned after Bedini's stuff. He approached Richard at a Free Software conference (that that guy actually hosted, I believe), and Richard was not polite about his brush off to that Free Software guy. I won’t repeat what Richard said, but it was kind of salty, and that Free Software/Free Energy guy's impression was that Richard was afraid that FE would eclipse Free Software and steal Richard's thunder. That was only that man's impression, who is actually a big name in the Free Software Movement, and I could only be sad when I heard that, as that song of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10) can even be heard in the halls of the Free Software Movement. Stallman is a great man, but FE is not only outside of his realm of the possible, he seems to even regard it as a threat to his efforts. I have seen this way too many times on my journey, believe me (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5).

That time in July 2006 was near the absolute peak of my midlife crisis, and reached its breaking point the next month, when Dennis invited me to the White House (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#midlife).

This is all a prelude to dealing with Freeknowledge's recent posts. I doubt that he will see it as a "dagger in his heart," but we will see if we can stand on the same ethical ground. I think so, and dearly hope so, but we will see.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
21st August 2015, 00:34
Lessons from the Radical Left

Having grown up in India, I always knew that the British Empire was a disaster for the people of India and elsewhere. I saw the World War’s as merely European wars fighting over who would dominate the world and extract spoils. India is a big country and is a big country and I was somewhat insular in my thinking, and did not really know about the America’s and only very little about USA. I was only vaguely aware of the fate of Native Americans and aborigines in Australia.
After getting a college degree I came to the US, and went about my ordinary life. I did notice that nobody really talked about slavery or the genocide of native americans or that the stealing etc.. It was not until after 911 and watching the media clearly being untruthful and running into an interview by Chomsky that I really woke up. I read Chomsky, Zinn, and the whole radical left milieu, in addition I read Amartya Sen, and really understood Free Software (6 years after I first used it), around this time I contacted Wade. While my understanding has continued to deepen it has not fundamentally changed since then.

I learnt that US was an empire just like the British Empire. The specifics of Guatemala, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq etc.. are different from India but the motivations/effects are the same. The most important lesson I learnt was about Manufacturing Consent. Chomsky in an interview said that Manufacturing Consent was a free market analysis of the media. The proper way to analyze media is that they are selling attention of people to advertisers. This was my first real economics lesson, simply put follow the money and ignore the smokescreen, platitudes and ideologies. Wade would say follow the Energy.

This was the time of the War on Iraq, I marched against the war but saw no real change, this lead to questions about the effectiveness of dissent and political organizing. I had no answers at that time.

Eventually after reading the big essay I understood that politics runs on top of economics (energy), and while some change in the margins is possible it is not a fight I find worth fighting anymore.

Let me give a shoutout to Gideon Polya (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#polya) his estimates of nearly 2 billion deaths (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#_ednref868) in India is the very first estimate of the human toll of the British on India that I have seen. I believe that number is accurate (from what I learnt about human development). And this is India alone, we have to add deaths from other peoples that the British conquered. The human toll is one of the greatest in World History surpassed in proportional terms only by genocides. WWII total casualties average 10 million a year, during the 200 year British rule India alone suffered 10 million deaths a year.

This completes my homework. This part is the shortest because it takes a lot out of me, I respect Uncle Noam but I have not read even one book of his in the last 8 years and I an unlikely pick up his books again. Nor do I see myself reading Wade's essays on War and Empire again.

Wade Frazier
21st August 2015, 15:06
Hi:

With that series of prelude posts out of the way, here goes. On Ilie's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990418&viewfull=1#post990418), yes, there are many highly charged battles on the Internet that do not amount to anything important and serve to distract people, especially as the Epoch of Abundance looms, and those discussions are like debating the best brand of buggy whip, 150 years ago, how to best treat slaves, 300 years ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#southseas), and yes, free anything. When everything is abundant and free, the idea of free goes away. But that won't happen until there is energy abundance, as it always has and always will run the show in physical reality.

I began studying the lives and words of the masters as a teenager, after my mystical awakening (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva). Without that awakening, however, my studies would not have meant much. And without the free time to do it, as a member of history's most privileged demographic group, I would have not been able to do it. In Ilie's community, his peers did not even see the point of advanced education, as it had no value on a farm (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/75-Ilie-Pandia-s-introductory-posts). Without the opportunity to use it, education is meaningless. Imagine putting a Cro-Magnon into a time machine, bringing him into the present and putting him through university training, and then putting him back into his life of 30,000 years ago. What do you think that he could have accomplished? Anything? Do you think that he could have begun farming, smelt metal, or make his tribe literate? Would they have even seen the point, even though they had bigger brains than we do? He might have quickly gone insane or been killed by his peers, as he "went off the deep end," with crazy talk of metal, cities, books, and other bizarre ideas. He would have likely been received like FE talk is today, when FE newbies chat up their social circles. If they are lucky, they are not ostracized too badly, and industrialized nations are thankfully past the time when "heretics" were burned alive, to teach the society a "lesson." But as we bombed Iraq back into the Stone Age (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), look at how barbaric ideologies ascended, with ISIS. The theocracy that is Iran today was a functioning republic before the USA overthrew its government (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#iran) on behalf of energy interests.

Our consciousness is all that we take with us when we go (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#afterlife), and my understanding is that the point of physical reality is to develop consciousness, but physical reality provides unique challenges and opportunities to grow our consciousness, and nowhere else are the opportunities for growth as fast as being here. So, yes, consciousness is the big game, but physical reality is made of energy, which is rooted in the consciousness of All That Is. Even atoms have a consciousness. But a rock sure does not do much, from our point of view. Scientists have found rocks more than four billion years old on Earth, which have done nothing at all (weathered, transformed by geological processes) in the intervening eons, which provided scientists with a window into the past, if they know how the read the signs and have the tools to do so (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#toolset).

Plants have consciousness, and I have experienced it, but they have no brains and do not move like animals do. They don't need brains. :) Humans arrived on the evolutionary scene just like all life on Earth did, by descent from the ancestor of all life on Earth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#luca), and microscopic machinery (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enzyme) developed and developed and developed, and multicellular creatures appeared. Some became plants, some became fungus, and some became animals (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chloroplast), and each has a different mode of living. Maybe because we are animals, animals are the most interesting to us. The requirements for survival on the physical plane are rooted in energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#liferequirements). If the basics are not met, there is no life, plain and simple. All the consciousness in the world does matter if there is no energy, again, in this universe.

The mystical sources that I respect the most fully acknowledge the challenges and opportunities of being physical, and the best of them realize that to get all "mystical" and lose sight of life's basics is delusional, and for humans, there is nothing like hunger and fear to bring them back to the basics of this reality. If the basics are not honored, the rest literally does not matter. But forgetting the basics (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting) is a human penchant, as we struggle with becoming a truly sentient species.

The most important events for life's journey on Earth were energy events above all else. Nobody on Earth is going to make a more pertinent framework of events than this one (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyevents). Some may expand or edit it, but no alternative framework stands a chance. Those who downplay energy in favor for consciousness are invited to make a similar list for events in consciousness, and for the human journey, the big events in consciousness and cognition were dependent on energy events (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), which I make very clear in my work. Without the energy to fuel it, human consciousness was not going to arrive on the evolutionary scene, and great inventions, such as making people in the first place (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1), peopling Earth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2), civilization (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), and industrialization (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) happened because of tapping a previously unexploitable energy source. There are no exceptions to that dynamic. The great changes in the human journey, materially, socially, and cognitively, were all a result of those events, not a cause. Also, each Epoch reached a successively higher level of energy surplus than the former (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), which allowed for higher cognition, more complexity, and human societies became generally more humane.

Chimp and gorilla societies are grim affairs, violently run by males who murder infants they did not father (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#infanticide1), and chimps are actually genocidal, murdering the males of neighboring bands, taking the fertile females and territory as booty, and killing all of the infants of the conquered band. There is an exception to that dynamic, however. When the food supply of some isolated chimps doubled, the females led the way to ending male dominance, and bonobo societies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1) are more peaceful than any human society has ever been.

After the easy meat was gone (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#australianmegafauna), when the Golden Age of the Hunter-Gatherer ended, as humans burned through the energy supply that they used to conquer Earth, humans became mutually hostile as they battled over their dwindling energy supplies, and Stone Age hunter-gatherers are the most violent peoples in the human journey, in which about a third of all men die violently, and strange males out of their home territory are killed on sight, with the assumption being that they are there to steal women. The myth of the peaceful savage (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hobbes) is just that: a myth.

When people learned to domesticate plants and animals, there was also a brief golden age of village life, when women brought in more calories than men and their enhanced status meant that women stayed in their natal society and men left (which had not happened in the human line for at least ten million years (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patrilineal1), stretching back to gorillas and perhaps earlier), which broke up male gangs in much the same way as bonobos did, and those were the most peaceful pre-civilized societies.

The first civilizations began peacefully, in their early golden ages (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#goldenages), but men violently rose to dominance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#legitimacy), humans quickly depleted their energy supplies (primarily forests (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#treesenergy) and fertile soils), early civilizations became very violent (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare), and they all collapsed as they ran out of energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses). Human brains were 10% larger 30,000 years ago than today, and they likely had greater raw intelligence, but they did not have the opportunities to develop their abilities as professionals (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions) did, as their daily tasks were strictly concerned with survival. Only in rare instances, when they had a local and relatively stable energy supply, could they form "villages," such as when they drove mammoths to extinction in Eurasia (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gravettian). Only then did sophisticated grave goods appear, as people had "free" time to make ornamental "elite" clothing and the like. When the energy ran out, it was a reversion to more primitive life. That dynamic also characterized the collapse of civilizations. Consciousness was there for all of it, but how developed is the consciousness of the illiterate compared to the literate, the isolated mountain dweller versus those who live in complex societies? How philosophical are people on the ragged edge of survival? How enlightened? Not very, in my experience. Nature, or nurture? These are very old questions, obviously, but I have come to see those dynamics through the lens of energy, as have scientists, as they began investigating the journey of life on Earth and the human journey and its epochal phases.

As Ilie states, my game is making the next Epochal Event happen (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), which will be the biggest event in the human journey, by far. That is enough to have on one man's plate. :) I know that the technology for it exists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), but the mass of humanity does not have the collective integrity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) and sentience (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1) to get us over the hump of humanity's inertia and the organized suppression of the elite (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) (who clearly see that their role vanishes in that new Epoch (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear)), as the masses devote themselves to narrow self-interest and survival. But as with the other Epochal Events, a relative handful of people can reach the social organization and technical prowess to tap the new energy source. I seek to amass and train that relative handful (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), and I know that they are very rare in humanity today, on the order of one-in-thousands, which is partly why the social approach will not work for this (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), but this new technology called the Internet can help me find them, and them find me.

My former partner brought history's best heating technology (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) to the public, and used ingenious methods (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs) that herald the Fifth Epoch, in my mind. His methods were so revolutionary that almost nobody around him could even comprehend it. But I realized that the vehicle of business would not work, no matter how enlightened and courageous. My partner appealed to all of the population management ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) to round up the people for the Epochal task, and such people were usually more harm than good. We learned those lessons the hard way (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tailings). Only when humanity gets away from the ragged edge of survival, where the fear of survival haunts everybody, even in history's richest and most powerful nation, will be see humanity approach something that might be called sentience. Only a large energy surplus can do that (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary), and one that is not continually being depleted to exhaustion by those windfall energy opportunists, humanity. The human journey has been defined by exploiting a new energy source to exhaustion, and then moving on to the next one, usually accompanied by societal collapses as the energy ran out. That holds from mammoth villages (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gravettian) to early agricultural settlements (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#natufian) to early civilizations (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses) to modern industrial civilization, which has been declining as it runs out of energy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#industrialdecline). A collapse that dwarfs all others looms largely, and humanity might wipe out the ecosphere and take itself with it (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), in its semi-sentient energy quest.

It was in the middle of my activism, study, and learning curve that I heard about a movement that in some ways mirrors what my partner was trying to do: reproduce intelligence and give it away. I knew about open-sourcing software for years, but the Free Software idea was an enlightened progression of that idea. That initially drew me to the idea of the Free Software Movement, and made them seem like potential allies to help make FE happen. I have not given up yet, but I do not seek the movement as a whole. I had the privilege of interacting with the movement's leading mind, but he was firmly stuck in scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), somewhat surprisingly, and trapped by the seductive ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle) that the "smart" believe in. That is not unusual at all (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), but I thought that maybe there was a ray of daylight there.

I hope that I have addressed Ilie's post by now ( :) ), and now it will be on to Freeknowledge's, who introduced me to the Free Software Movement, and that is big stuff in of itself. He and Ilie have earned my time, and I hope to be finished responding before the weekend is finished. For now, however, it is off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
22nd August 2015, 14:56
Hi:

OK, on to Freeknowledge's recent posts. The bottom line is that if the Free Software Movement does not advocate stealing from somebody's income stream by stealing (including illegally copying) work that they put up for sale, I am fine, and I believe that is their stance. If so, then there is nothing that Freeknowledge should be concerned about from me regarding the Free Software Movement.

If the Free Software Movement makes free, open-source software that "competes" with software that companies sell (such as Linux versus Microsoft's operating system software), more power to them. I have read a bit of Moglen's and Stallman's writings over the years, and it is lefty stuff, and that is OK. As long as they don't advocate the coercion that the Left is famous for (read the end of Marx's Communist Manifesto, read Michael Albert's open advocacy of elite coercion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#coerce), or Chomsky's, Zinn's, and Churchill's advocacy of violence (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#left), or Albert's advocacy of peaceful means only because activists cannot compete in violence with the state, and you will see where I part company with the Left), I am fine with what they are doing.

All too often, I have seen the logic of lefties, righties, and others that made the case that their noble ends justified coercion, theft, and violence, and again, I will quote Seth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth), who said that there is never any justification for violence, and that when people see violence and coercion as "solutions," they are deluded and digging a deeper hole for themselves. It is related to his statement (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist) of the means becoming the ends. But people mired in scarcity and victim-orientation cannot see that, and they always come to the part where they have to go kill or coerce the "bad guys" (AKA out-group (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup)). My experience is that materialists often think that way, because they think like victims, not creators. They come from a place of fear, not love. That victim-orientation plagues all political stripes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc), not just the Left. Their arguments can be very clever and logical, but operate from the victim's premise. Few have been provoked like I have been (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr), but when I overcame the urge to do violence (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it) to some very evil-minded people doing Godzilla's dirty work, and instead sacrificed my life (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mortgage), the greatest miracle I ever witnessed soon happened. So, I know that it works. :)

Brian's "combined positive intention (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gcfocus)" approach is the one I advocate, and almost nobody on Earth understands Godzilla's organized suppression (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make) like I do. It could be called saintly to advocate an approach to FE without coercion (even of Godzilla (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc)), and make the most lucrative technology in the human journey and give it away, but it may also be the only approach that will work. It is not only a path of high ethics, it may also be the only approach that will work. Also, it is aligned with the kind of world that it can help usher into being, and is aligned with Seth's statement of the means becoming the ends: only a loving and abundant approach is going to help manifest a loving and abundant world (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). It will not come about by killing and coercing the "bad guys," and Martin Luther King, Jr. also said as much (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#luther), as did Jesus (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enemy). Yes, they died violent deaths, and the best of my fellow travelers (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) got ruined and prematurely ended lives for their trouble, and that is the way of our benighted species today, but it can change.

With that out of the way, on to Freeknowledge's posts.

Again, he made his posts here because I asked him to, not so much to get into the details of what the Free Software Movement is and does, but to show how it led him on the path to my work and what he learned from it, similar to how I had Ilie and Darren write about their past (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/forums/23-Forum-Member-Introduction?). But because they seem to be doing something like what I advocate (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), I am OK with some explanation of what they do and advocate.

I just read the piracy article (https://rverzola.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/the-piracy-of-intellectuals/) that Freeknowledge advocated (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990240&viewfull=1#post990240), and I am sorry, but piracy is piracy, if the rich and powerful do it, or the poor and powerless. I doubt that the Free Software Movement advocates that, and I don't either. Yes, the system is rigged to favor the rich, as it has been since the dawn of civilization (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear), but the ends do not justify the means. I am aiming far higher with my FE work. I gave ten years of my life, for free, and that was the easy part, and I expect to spend the rest of my life's "spare" time on this mission, for free. And I know that the poor cannot do that. Only relatively comfortable people in industrialized nations will be able to do that. But they also have greater barriers of brainwashing (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded) to overcome, and the incentive to stay brainwashed.

If we want to call the piracy of poor Filipinos a venial sin and what the West does a mortal sin, I am fine with that, but my efforts aim far higher. They have to, to have a chance to succeed. I have periodically copied and given away some copyrighted work to a small circle of friends (only a handful of times in my life), but other than a time or two in the 1990s, I won't use pirated anything. I am not even happy with getting my food from the most enlightened grocery store that I know of (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/links.htm#pcc), as I know that poor peasants do the work. FE will end all of that. If the USA really valued humanity, it would have automated farming long ago, but there is an endless supply of cheap labor from poor nations, so they stoop in the fields and pick the orchards with their nimble hands. White people no longer do that (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis) in the USA, and in an FE culture, nobody will.

I give my work away, but if people want to sell the fruit of their labors, including software, that is their right, just like people like being anonymous on the Internet. I don't agree with that (I have never played the anonymity game), I found it to be fear-based and counterproductive, and to join what I am doing, people can no longer masquerade behind their anonymity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/57-Terms-of-Membership?p=76&viewfull=1#post76), but I will never publicly disclose somebody's identity who wants to remain anonymous. That comes with the territory of my work, and you can see many pseudonyms in my writings, as I protect both the innocent and the guilty, some of whom are long dead, but their families still wish them to remain anonymous, out of fear. I think that their fears are largely groundless, but respect their wishes. It has not been an easy tightrope to walk, let me tell you.

People have the free will to try to remain anonymous on the Internet, but my forum will not allow it, and the main reason why Avalon is not a troll haven, like places such as ATS are (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll), is that Bill has not allowed the anonymous to join (and anybody who interacts with me, in any way, should realize that Godzilla easily can find out who they are, if he does not already know), even though they present themselves to the public as "George, somewhere on Earth"). When I interact with anybody privately, other than the stray Avalon PM, I demand their identities. I have to, doing what I do. Anonymity is not only antithetical to what I am doing, it actually puts me in danger, in ways that may not be obvious to everybody.

As long as Freeknowledge does not advocate FE piracy, I am fine. I advocate open-sourced FE technology that is given to the world to reproduce as they see fit (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers). It won’t be easy, but the biggest event in the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) is not going to fall in our laps.

A little aside, before I get to Freeknowledge's posts, I have read Moglen's arguments for why software should be open-sourced, and one was that math and science are not proprietary (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#proprietary). Actually, much of the science around FE technology is. :) Much of what sits in Godzilla's Golden Hoard (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) today turns today's physics texts into doorstops. But the scientifically minded often have a naïve conceit (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive) that science sits above the fray of self-interest, secrecy, and the like. Anybody who knows much about how patents have been classified (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent) should know how naïve the idea of open-source science and technology is. Black science (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness2) and technology is where the good stuff is, not the peer-reviewed "white" stuff. In areas such as the history of life on Earth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#midpoint), it is a relatively open inquiry, with no classified fossil digs or scientific papers that I know of (but would I know if they were? :) ).

Freeknowledge has been here for a while, and I will begin here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988037&viewfull=1#post988037), with a comprehensive response to his recent posts. I have addressed some of it in previous posts, but he deserves a comprehensive response. This will take more than one post.

I got two of the Drèze/Sen books that Freeknowledge recommended, and they are in my stack. When I picked up Brian at the conference and went to that historic meeting at California's capitol (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#governor), I was in the middle of reading/studying Late Victorian Holocausts, which Sen was somewhat critical of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Victorian_Holocausts#Reception). My European imperial studies go back to the beginning of Europe's imperial era (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#portugal), when Portugal began sailing down the African coast (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#portugal) and returning with slaves. All empires enslaved those they conquered, from the very beginning (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#akkadian), and it was always an economic motivation above all else. The USA is an empire, and although it executes its imperial enterprise differently from how Portugal, Spain (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#spain), England (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#french), other imperial also-rans did, it is still violent and coercive, and the conquered did not get the benefits of self-rule and self-determination. Indeed, the USA has officially rejected the notion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#rights) that nations have that right. How evil, and I live in the heart of the Empire as a member of history's most privileged demographic group (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar). The ironies are not lost on me, believe me. What has always been refreshing about people such as Uncle Noam is that he counts himself among the guilty, as contributing to the USA's imperial behavior and being a beneficiary of it, simply by living here. The slightest bit of personal integrity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) demands such an acknowledgement (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility), but almost no Americans ever do so. Brian always felt guilty when he put gasoline in his car, and that is the kind of keen conscience (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts) that characterized my fellow travelers with my greatest respect (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures). If any Americans can claim to have no responsibility for the USA's international behavior, Uncles Noam, Ed, Howard (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm), Brian, Dennis, and I must vie for the honor, but we all accept our role as beneficiaries of our nation's immense crimes. Hitler and Stalin would be impressed with our tally (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), as we spread "freedom."

Much more to write on Freeknowledge's posts, and I plan to finish them this weekend, but for now, I have chores to do.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
22nd August 2015, 16:52
Wade,
I will wait for you to finish. Briefly I want you to consider the following questions while you continue to respond to my posts.
1) I borrowed books from the library be it Chomsky, Sen, Late Victorian Holocausts or recently Richard Wrangham, Peter Ward. What right did I have to do so? Was it moral? (I rarely buy books, I read from the library systems)
2) Is it moral for me to use the English language? Given that it is *not* the intellectual commons of my ancestors?
3) My technical knowledge comes from reading of books and understanding them. I use the ideas that I learnt from those books in my professional life, the law is clear on this because of the idea-expression divide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea%E2%80%93expression_divide) I am on the right side of law. But is it moral?

Krishna
22nd August 2015, 18:18
My stances are very close to Stallman's stances Misinterpreting Copyright—A Series of Errors (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.en.html) and Why Software Should Not Have Owners (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.en.html)

I see Roberto Verzola's article on 'piracy' as merely pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

Wade Frazier
23rd August 2015, 12:40
Hi:

I am taking a little break from responding to Freeknowledge's posts, to introduce the first scientist who is publicly coming forward to be part of what I am doing.

It gives me great pleasure to introduce Michael Hyson (http://www.planetpuna.com/hyson/). Meeting Michael was one of the many benefits of doing the Camelot interview (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm). Michael contacted me because of that interview. He was Brian's colleague, when Brian was in his space colony and asteroid mining days (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill). Brian remembered Michael fondly, and before long, Michael invited me to Hawaii's Big Island to swim with what Michael calls "free" dolphins, and I did (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#dolphins), in 2010.

I recently had a talk with Michael, and he is eager to join my forum, after he finishes reading my essay. He was the first scientist whom I heard from as I wrote my essay. He read an early draft that had not gotten much past its midway point (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#midpoint), and his response was "Wow!" He was not this scientist (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#paleo), but his early feedback let me know that I was on the right track and was not messing up my presentation.

Michael has done everything from studying the human brain to designing rockets. He spoke of his healing experience with a dolphin in an interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk1EpnUlKh0) done for a debunker show produced by the Penn and Teller magicians, but they never ran the footage on the show. Debunking somebody's experience with Michael's credentials was not going to be easy, but it was in the bonus materials.

I was reluctant to ask Michael to join up with my effort, as he is a busy man and being on the global stage with me could be career-risking and bring a little Godzilla (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) attention. However, Michael is at the stage of his life and career where he knows that he has only so many good years left and plans to make them count. That has been my attitude since about 2011, too, which was partly why I took the career break to write my big essay. It is a great honor to have Michael join my effort.

Michael is doing a live interview this month (http://thetruthisfunny.com/radio-show/the-dolphinization-of-the-planet-the-humanization-of-space-and-the-re-enchantment-of-the-earth-with-dr-michael-hyson-aug-26-2015/), and before long, he will be interacting in my forum, and I look forward to it.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
24th August 2015, 03:27
More lessons from the Radical Left (mostly likely final one).


Growing up in India through college and living in the US after college has allowed me to see differently than living in either on of those places would have allowed. I now understand that most people in the imperial centers were mostly unaware (even if that is because of their willful blindness) of the costs imposed on others. That this is the same dynamic seen within societies. The corruption and rudeness in India is on your face, while in US it is more sophisticated and subtle. While people talk about a lot of issues and express outrage or sympathy, it is mostly talk and much less action. I realize my role and responsibility as a member of the American Empire, but am also aware enough that I don’t put all the problems of India on the doorstep of the West. We are all Universal People with the same vices and virtues.

I realize that human institutions play a critical role in the direction that societies take and have enormous effects on the societies themselves. Which is why I liked the ideas of Program on Corporations, Law & Democracy (http://www.poclad.org/) wikipedia link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POCLAD), that corporations are not real human beings and should not be treated as persons under the law. The colonization of India was done by the East India Company, the mercantile interests continued to be the real power even when the face was changed to the British Government after India's First War of Independence in 1857.

The importance of human institutions can be seen in the how it is shows up in terms of human development. Yes energy is the ultimate cause, but the proximate cause is education (or lack of it) in my opinion, and human institutions have an enormous effect on the spread of education.

Wade Frazier
24th August 2015, 14:01
Hi:

Before I get back to Freeknowledge's posts, a pal took me here (http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/rampart-ridge-back-door), yesterday, and I am getting too old for stuff like that, straight up the mountainside, on all fours at times. Once we got on top, it was spectacular. The haze in the distance is smoke from forest fires, in our year of epic drought. Oh, and I got two beestings that itch like the devil this morning.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
24th August 2015, 14:37
Hi:

I have too much on my plate at the moment to get to Freeknowledge's important posts, but briefly, before I begin my busy week, in the midst of a global market panic, which was not hard to see coming (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#coming), I would like to reflect for a moment on markets that run on greed and fear (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed). That is the song of scarcity (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10) playing out through humanity's political economy. It is highly primitive behavior for such allegedly "advanced" societies. When scarcity ends and is replaced with abundance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), if enough of us can muster the integrity and sentience (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), markets and similar primitive institutions (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange) will go the way of slavery (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#southseas) and dinosaurs (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction). The song of abundance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/26-The-Song-of-Abundance) is a very different tune. :)

Best,

Wade

Krishna
25th August 2015, 04:28
Tying it all together

Chomsky et all opened my half closed eyes. But the radical left spend a lot less time on solutions, I learnt that political organizing is the way to bring about change. Even there it is not clear what issues to focus on. Paraphrasing Buckminster Fuller I like his idea that “when we illuminate the problem, we should always offer a solution.”

Dreze/Sen are economists primarily working on the transition from agricultural epoch to the industrial epoch from the human development point of view. Here their comparisons of countries at different times in their transition to the industrial epoch offers keen insights into the possibilities of human development for a poor country. From a plot of Mean Years of School for Women aged 25-34 vs Energy consumption (http://www.bit.ly/1JdkBqW)
we can see that all education can lead to high incomes (energy use), even countries with low energy use can achieve reasonable levels of education (I am using 12 years of education/high school as benchmark) and education leads to human development.

Likewise for life expectancy energy use (http://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ourworldindata_no-100-charts-banner-life-expectancy-vs-gdp-scatter.png) helps, but the relationship is not linear, it is logarithmic and after a certain point energy consumption does not have much effect on life expectancy.

This non-linear relationship between GDP/energy use and social utility can be most starkly seen with software and other anti-rival functional goods. While software might seem costly (think Microsoft) software of equivalent functionality has been achieved by Free/Open Source software. Likewise there are enormous pricing differences between Encyclopedia Britannica and Wikipedia but what about social utility and cost to create the original in the first place? Clearly social utility of free software or wikipedia is much higher than competition, likewise the cost of creating them is much lower, wikipedia’s yearly budget is 25 million dollars.

The relationship between energy and anti-rival goods is related to the presence of internet in other words the efficiency of cultural transmission of innovations, compare energy consumption pre internet era and today vs the availability of knowledge or the ability to communicate and form a community like Avalon. Energy use does not explain the increase in the availability of knowledge/information.


With only minor editing Wade says

"If each invention during human history had to be continually reinvented from scratch, there would not be people today. The cultural transmission of innovations was critical for growing humanity’s collective technology, skills, and intelligence.”

"Epochal Events in the human journey, were all energy events above all else, and were all dependent on humans gaining the technological prowess and social organization that enabled them to exploit a new energy source, which was dependent on their increasing mental feats."



My understanding from the essay is that epochal events could have happened multiple times, say the invention of fire. But if the social organization was not present, the innovation did not lead to the next epoch and might have been forgotten locally. In other words social organization is a limiting factor. Likewise the energy availability in any given epoch dictated whether the epoch continued or whether it crashed back into the previous epoch. The rise and crash of civilizations based on environmental degradation are change are good examples of this. In other words continuous energy availability is a limiting factor. Finally knowledge can be stored in the form of books, therefore even when societies swing back and forth between epochs based on energy availability. The subsequent swing to a higher epoch can happen faster based on availability of knowledge learned over millennia. The changes in Europe because of the reintroduction of classical greek writings is a good example.

Thanks Wade for teaching me about the epochal nature of Energy and the Human Journey. My small contribution is to think about the role of social organization and transmission of intelligence during transitions between the epochs.

Wade Frazier
25th August 2015, 15:55
Hi:

I have a little time this morning, so back to Freeknowledge's posts (and to vaccinations, someday :) ).

We will continue with this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988388&viewfull=1#post988388). Yes, education helps, but the West is also adept at serving up the brainwashing with the education (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm), even in science, which is supposed to be above that fray, but isn't (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#irrelevant). The human potential is pretty amazing IMO, and how people make do with little resources can be inspiring. But stick those poor Indian kids in their makeshift schools and send them here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), and watch what happens.

I am also going to use Freeknowledge's posts as an excuse to broaden into areas related to my big essay, which I have wanted to write about for some time, but did not get the opportunity to so far, so I am grateful to Freeknowledge for throwing some meat into my arena, so I could work it over. :)

Physical scientists and social scientists often study pristine instances of events, to understand not only what happened but why, in large measure to see if they can detect dynamics and principles that can be generalized to other situations, to see if they have predictive validity. The Cambrian Explosion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ecosystem) was the one and only event for the rise of animals. It will never happen again on Earth, and all the phyla of significance were formed then, and all animal evolution had to live within the parameters set by the Cambrian Explosion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#foundation). The evolution of land plants (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#landplants) had its pristine beginning in the Silurian, and by the end of the Devonian (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kellwasser), the plant paradigm was also set, and has never varied much since then (the rise of flowering plants (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#flowers) was the only truly big one after the Devonian), defined by the framework set hundreds of millions of years ago. Those pristine events in the rise of complex life on Earth did not have to turn out like they did, and the best scientists, like the best historians, do their best to keep a sense of contingency (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity) in their thinking and work, and wonder how it might have turned out differently.

The rise of humans arguably began with the split from chimps (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpsplit), as some loser chimps were pushed to the rainforest margins, learned to walk upright (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bipedskull) so that they could survive and exploit the woodland and savanna margins, and here we are today. :) Scientists have been working with a very thin collection of fossils (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#orrorin) regarding the rise of humanity, but their clever methods and constantly improving toolset (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#toolset) have yielded a mountain of evidence, and that study won't end anytime soon. Studying adaptive radiations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ordovician) and mass extinctions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#extinctiontable) has yielded many insights, and scientists are applying those insights to our world today, with often frightening results (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth).

The rise of human civilization had at least two pristine instances and maybe four (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), and scientists have been studying those pristine civilizations for some time, and it is far from finished. Scientific exploration never ends, and the best scientists realized it. The Industrial Revolution had one pristine instance, in England (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse), and all other instances were influenced by the pristine one. Bucky Fuller (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) remarked that non-industrial nations could rapidly industrialize (if they had the energy to :) ), and would not have to follow the curve of the pristine instances of it. For instance, the introduction of the cell phone to poor nations enabled them to leap-frog the way that the West's communication technology evolved, so they went straight from subsistence villages to using cell phones, which is cutting edge technology in the West. It has caused many bizarre contrasts. One pal was in southern India several years ago, and one enduring image that he brought back was a man squatting in the surf, doing his business, while he was simultaneously talking on his cell phone. In India, cell-phones co-exist with pig toilets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_toilet). My Boeing pals have told me of some of the engineering problems that Boeing has, such as when its planes are sold to nations that have only begun to industrialize, and they have to design their planes to handle "Third World" practices, such as transporting chickens and cattle on the planes, along with the passengers, in the same compartment.

So, women receiving education as they have, in China, India, and other poor nations has helped reduce their population growth, as women aspired to be more than baby-factories. But just as with evolution, in that no evolutionary innovation could survive if it did not provide immediate benefit, those women generally would not get education that they could not use in their lives. Their demographic transition has been a different animal than the West's although social scientists have been able to generalize the broad trends (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic).

As I have stated many times, making FE happen will not be some mass movement (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10), as the masses are strictly focused on their immediate self-interest, even more so in poor nations, where survival is a daily concern. But, as I discovered the hard way (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn), the West has similar problems, although they live at a higher level of energy use and hence, political economy. When people such as Freeknowledge and SL come to me, they were the lucky "winners" of their poor societies, having access to industrialized nation benefits (such as interacting with me at Avalon :) ) that their societies could have never come up with on their own (well, give them enough energy, and they maybe could have, in hundreds or thousands of years).

An original aspect of my work is that I make the case that every Epochal Event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) was initiated by a relative or literal handful of people, and the practice spread. That is where communication comes into play. But the masses could not even imagine (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) the next epochal phase before it began, and it will be no different for the Fifth Epochal Event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), which will be humanity's largest, by far, as humanity becomes a Type 1 civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kardashev). I am not trying to reach the masses. They are generally dead to a message like mine, and I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle). There are no social or political solutions to the FE conundrum. Only delivering FE will do it, which will be a technical project, and don't expect any help from the world's institutions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#beseeching1). Humanity's sociality is a pre-sentient dynamic (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#grooming), in which everybody wants to be an accepted member of the herd, and politics is always the tail on the dog of economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics). Those are useless paths to epochal change.

I seek the extraordinary people (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) who can imagine the next Epoch before it begins (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#why), as a way to help usher it into being. That has never happened before in the human journey, and the kinds of problems that Brian (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions) and Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis) ran into, for instance, are indicative of the many ways (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) that humans are addicted to scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation) and cannot even imagine abundance. If I had not witnessed it thousands of times, I would not have believed it, either. That is why no political stripe on Earth will really help FE happen; not the rad left (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm), not the Free Software Movement (http://ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm), but in those groups are stray needles that I can find, and it is why I am encouraging Freeknowledge to write about the Free Software Movement, but my open letter 2.0 will be titled something like "An Open Letter to Some Members of the Free Software Movement." :)

Much more to write, but it is off to work.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
26th August 2015, 01:45
I am adding some reading material on cough cough "IP" that I am reading. Chomsky on "Intellectual Property (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.fan.noam-chomsky/ULn_zJNF5NM/PdZZ1C62yRIJ)" another one (http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20090519.htm)

Everything is a Remix by Kirby Ferguson, watch (http://everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/) or transcripts 1 (http://everythingisaremix.info/blog/everything-is-a-remix-part-1-transcript), 2 (http://everythingisaremix.info/blog/everything-is-a-remix-part-2-transcript), 3 (http://everythingisaremix.info/blog/everything-is-a-remix-part-3-transcript) and 4 (http://everythingisaremix.info/blog/everything-is-a-remix-part-1-transcript)

"The intent was to better the lives of everyone by incentivizing creativity and producing a rich public domain, a shared pool of knowledge, open to all." -Kriby Ferguson

He has examples of Apple copying Everything is a Remix Case Study: The iPhone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzpIRZAWUc)


Also internet is no longer for the winners of poor societies. It is slowly becoming universal. e.g. 1 (http://visual.ly/internet-users-countries-1990-2011?view=true), 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Internet_usage) with the developing world a mere 14 years behind developed world.

The prospects for building a choir have never been better and will become better, unfortunately they will be brainwashed by education no matter where they live in the world. It always looking for needles.

Wade Frazier
26th August 2015, 15:01
Hi:

Back to Freeknowledge's posts. More on this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988388&viewfull=1#post988388). Virtually all major "philanthropy" on Earth is fake. This isn't new, as it has always been this way on "civilized" Earth (those "generous" elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear) who amassed their fortunes through immense crimes), and especially those British "philanthropists (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#philanthropy)." Missionaries from Europe often led the rape of the New World (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first), and I went to an elementary school named after one of them (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra), who is up for sainthood today (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint). Mother Teresa was a phony (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa), and so on.

The American version goes way back, too, with American presidents (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jefferson) making specious arguments when they weren't advocating naked theft and genocide (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint). American agencies such as the Peace Corps (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#peace) are merely "soft" tools of empire, used before the USA begins playing rough with its banks, spooks, and military, as John Perkins learned (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#neocolonialist). John Rockefeller (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rockefeller1) and Andrew Carnegie exemplified industrial "philanthropists," and the world is still paying dearly for their "philanthropy," with nonsensical economic theory (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chicagoschool), a huge medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#flexner), and other wonders.

When Dennis flew high, he was swarmed with billionaires, and not one of them was worth a damn. They all tried to see how they could co-opt Dennis's effort, and not one of them parted with a dollar. As Bill Gates once said, you don't get rich by cutting checks. The Rockefellers were involved more than once in wiping Dennis out (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rockefeller2). The Rothschilds got involved, too. But they were lower-level players, a notch or two below Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc), with sitting presidents lower still (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents), as actors who read their lines (literally, in the case of Reagan (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#reagan), and Bush the Second (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc) could not even get his lines right).

As to human development among the world's poor, some pockets have indeed been able to do relatively well, with sharing, education, and the like, but those Four Asian Tigers were far from pristine instances of industrialization, and they rose when Japan did, which benefitted from the USA's wars in East Asia (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#toll), supplying our killing machine. They all embodied something like the Protestant work ethic, but the East Asian version (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers#Cultural_basis). Those tigers are tiny islands of relative affluence in a sea of poverty. It is Fourth Epoch stuff, which all depends on the energy of fossil fuels. The Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) will be so radically different that it will be largely unrecognizable to today's people, which is part of the problem (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm). But it was like this (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) for every Epochal Event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable). When the Fifth Epoch arrives, there will no longer be islands of affluence in an ocean of poverty. I live in the Bill Gates bubble, literally (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates), and my neighborhood is full of high-caste refugees from India. They visit home every year, but almost none of them want to move back. They "made it" to the West and relative affluence. The nouveau riche of China all want to leave, and the USA is always their primary destination, even as declining a nation as we are, similar to Rome's trajectory, as it ran out of energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peaceofrome).

The demographic transition's (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic) pristine instance began in England as it industrialized (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse). There was also the introduction of superior New World crops (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ireland), particularly the potato in Northern Europe, which led to population explosions in places such as Ireland. What we see today, of poor nations going through the demographic transition without industrializing, is them getting the benefits of Western practices (sanitation, improvements in nutrition, basic medicine (sterile, primarily), and yes, formal education). They are riding on the West's coattails to a degree, even those without access to fossil fuels at Western levels. To me, these are just variants of how the Fourth Epoch has proceeded.

In ways, it is similar to the Neolithic Expansion, as agriculturalists, with their superior energy practices, invaded hunter-gatherer lands and pushed them to the margins. The hunter-gatherer women mated with the invaders (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#maledna) (who had much greater caloric security than hunter-gatherers, so their lifestyles were far more attractive), and hunter-gatherer men disappeared from the gene pool. When two epochs meet like that, there are going to be variations on how it plays out, but make no mistake, it all rides on the energy practices of the new epoch.

I agree with Freeknowledge that if there was another century of the Fourth Epoch, the world's culture and standard of living will lose most of the great contrasts that we see today (also called the Race to the Bottom (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#racetobottom), as the capitalist class wages global war against the working class and poor, as the USA's middle class rapidly disappears), but the Fourth Epoch cannot last much longer, in a kind of "choose your poison" scenario. We already reached Peak Oil globally (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peakoil), and conventional oil will be completely depleted in Freeknowledge's lifetime, assuming that he lives to a ripe old age. The very engine of Industrial Revolution, stage two (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal45), is oil. That is the sole reason why we see the strife in the Middle East today, ever since the British Navy converted to oil from coal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#churchill1). Oil provides about 90% of the world's transportation energy today. We are mining the dregs of Earth's hydrocarbons today (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dregs), such as Canada's tar sands (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tarsands), fracking, deep-water drilling (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nukes), etc. One side-effect of the Hydrocarbon Age is Global Warming (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#globalwarming), and this year will once again break the record for the hottest year yet recorded. Numerous environmental calamities loom, but the smart money is betting that World War III (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wwIII), over the dwindling oil supplies, will happen before the environmental disasters (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth) take out most of humanity, and the world's poor are going to suffer first and most, as usual. So, will we be "saved" from galloping Global Warming by running out of hydrocarbon energy, somehow avoid World War III over the oil, and gracefully transition to something that will be a cross of the Third (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) and Fourth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) Epochs, in a world that loses 90% of its human population? That is the "solution (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity)" that Peak Oilers (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#fossil) and environmentalists (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists) offer up, and they treat FE like the enemy, believe it or not.

As Michael stated, ensouled species at our juncture do not make it a third of the time (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age3), as they wipe out their planet, taking themselves with it, via either environmental destruction or warfare.

Next to those dynamics and looming catastrophes, everything else is noise. But a mere 5,000 can turn the tide and usher humanity into the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). However, those people are needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), and I am using this new medium, the Internet, to find and train them. And the world's poor will be no help at all, and that is fine. I recall the words of Joe Bageant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bageant) while writing this. Bageant escaped his Appalachian holler during the USA's postwar boom (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar) and wrote like a liberal for many years before returning to his roots and writing about his people. I have similar roots (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#englishinvasion), and Bageant said that his books could benefit his people more than any other, but none of them will read them, as they don't read much, but get their "information" from TV and the radio. Dennis is that way, too, with his migrant farmworker roots (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis). The world's poor do not see the point of too much education, as it will not prepare them for their lives of toil. Ilie made a similar observation (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/75-Ilie-Pandia-s-introductory-posts?p=131&viewfull=1#post131) when writing about the agrarian community that he grew up in, with him as a freak, with college-educated parents. His peers did not see the point in education much beyond becoming literate, and left school for the farm early on.

I strongly doubt that many of the world's poor will be part of the choir, as they are totally immersed in surviving each day, and do not have the time or interest to study my work. They will be the most dramatic beneficiaries of FE, but they are not going to help, and that is OK. My effort is not designed to reach them, although anybody with Internet access can take my "class." :) I have made my site easy to read on a PC or even iPad, but I am certainly not targeting people who want to read my big essay on their cell phones, and I have stated plenty that I have no plans to make a book from my work. It will be counterproductive and even risky, and my work is a next-generation resource.

In the coming week, I will have more time to write, and will work through my stack of unread correspondence, make some meaty posts, and the like, including catching up on my own thread! :)

Best,

Wade

Krishna
27th August 2015, 00:39
Yes Japan benefitted from the wars in East Asia as did Philippines. The key difference is that Korea/Japan/Taiwan could use their education and provide industrial goods for the war machine which kicked them into the high income group. While Philippines with their lower levels of education in the younger cohorts stayed in the lower-middle income countries.

I am not too keen on cultural explanations of the trajectories of countries, be it protestant work ethic or Confucianism. I see those explanations as merely speculations, or worse. I am happy to settle with education as the major explanation.

for the effects of education see Demographic Metabolism: A Predictive Theory of Socioeconomic Change (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/j.1728-4457.2013.00564.x/asset/j.1728-4457.2013.00564.x.pdf;jsessionid=D0E6329EBA6C839AFEBF10F46D06A0D5.f03t02?v=1&t=idtdszcw&eafa082e) and Rethinking Population Policies Why Education Makes a Decisive Difference (http://www.iiasa.ac.at/web/home/resources/publications/IIASAPolicyBriefs/pb11-web.pdf), more (http://www.iiasa.ac.at/web/home/research/researchPrograms/WorldPopulation/Research/Economic_Performance.html), and more (http://www.agenta-project.eu/Jacomo/upload/media/popnet_winter_2014_final-5.pdf). In short more than anything else, education is the determining factor. One could say that one of the defining features of every epoch is the level of education, collective intelligence all that made possible by flows of energy.

I don’t agree that kids leave school early on just because they don’t see prospects. This might be true for adolescents kids and older but not before, therefore they are likely to complete 10 years of schooling if the facilities exist. Even in US where it should be obvious to every kid that education is important only 80% finish high school (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Educational_Attainment_in_the_United_States_2009.png).
See Public Report on Basic Education in India (http://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/public_report_basic_education_india.pdf)(1998 by Dreze among other authors) for the various motivations for going to school, and what they do if they drop out.

Nobody in the 1960’s Korea knew that their country would become developed because of their education. Likewise when I was going to college there was great uncertainty about job prospects, because India did not see much economic development then, that did not discourage education. If educational facilities exist, dropping out of school really starts only as adolescents (or as adults for the elite), imagined prospects about economic gain do not enter the picture until then.


===Added Later===

Thinking more carefully, yes we are in the fourth (industrial) epoch. Although it does not seem that way in poor countries. Colonization was itself a fourth epoch phenomenon. The green revolution and piped water that explain low mortality all over the world are industrial epoch effects. Education explains the other half of mortality reduction, lower fertility and industrial productivity. In a sense the spread of education is a sign that the transition to the fourth epoch is complete.

Wade Frazier
27th August 2015, 04:04
Hi:

A little break from responding to posts. I just read this (http://ourfiniteworld.com/2015/08/26/deflationary-collapse-ahead/), by an analyst that I contacted not long ago (of course, no real interest was shown in my work). Those kinds of analyses will have predictive validity, if we don't turn the FE corner. Again, only those needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle) are going to have what I am looking for (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), but I knock on doors now and then, but I have yet to see a Peak Oiler or environmentalist, with the sole exception of Alden Bryant (http://www.newenergymovement.org/founders.php) give the idea of FE the time of day, if they did not treat FE as the enemy.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th August 2015, 10:12
Hi:

I have some time this morning, so back to responding to posts. On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988606&viewfull=1#post988606) from Freeknowledge, those with scientific training do not find my big essay hard to digest, and if I had to gauge from the reactions I have seen in the year since I first published the essay, it is looking more and more like the scientifically trained are really the only people who are going to read and study my work, and that is too bad. I designed it with laypeople in mind, not scientists, but maybe people are not scientifically trained for a reason. But I have not given up, and when I saw glimmers of understanding from people such as Nine, it gave me hope that my approach could work for non-scientists.

That post by Freeknowledge, on how agrarian (Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3)) education was not very helpful for understanding the industrial world (Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4)) I think is an important concept. It is related to my recent statement (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993019&viewfull=1#post993019) that my work does not target the world's poor, although they will be the most dramatic beneficiaries of FE. The Industrial Revolution has had three general phases. The first began when coal was used to smelt metal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coke) and run steam engines (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#steamengine1), the second was when oil and electricity (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal45) began to be used, and the third one was when the high tech revolution began, arguably when the USA nuked Japan (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping), and definitely when semi-conductors were invented a couple of years later, which led to today's computerized industrial societies. The feat of flying to the moon (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo) was unimaginable to my grandfather as he lived in a sod hut (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas), even though his son helped put men on the moon (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary). I was a science fiction junkie (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm) as a teenager, but if you had told me that I could be communicating to the world like I am today, I would have likely regarded it as a nice fantasy.

But the energy practices of this Epoch's phases (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) are the same, of harnessing the energy of fossil fuels. In that regard, it has not changed much since the early 1700s. But the education that people received in each phase was markedly different. However, calculus was around for the Industrial Revolution's beginning, and important aspects of math go back to the Classic Greeks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#classicgreece), which arguably was the beginning of modern thought.

Yes, I figure that if I am fortunate, that I have 30 good years left in me to pursue this work, although I also doubt that humanity can wait that long (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth). But again, I will be surprised if many from the poor nations (unless they are lucky winners such as Freeknowledge and SL) are going to study my work and join the choir. I am prepared to be pleasantly surprised, however. :) In general, they are not as brainwashed as Westerners, so that they have fewer handicaps to overcome, in some important ways. Maybe people trying to reach out to those in non-industrial nations will make a dent, but it won’t be easy. It is similar to how FE efforts are almost exclusively mounted in industrialized nations. Even Tewari's work was copying Trombly's (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=979996&viewfull=1#post979996).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th August 2015, 16:09
Hi:

Now, on to the post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988726&viewfull=1#post988726) that began the fracas. I am sorry, but copying is theft, if the maker made it with the intention of making a living from it, and the copier does not pay. It is simple ethics. If I made something with the idea that I would be paid as you consumed it, and instead you did not pay me when consuming it, that is a violation of my intent as I made it.

We can argue all day long on societal benefits and legalistic ideas, but if somebody puts effort into something with the expectation of an economic return, and people use it without paying, that is theft. We can say that the theft does not directly extract something from the victim; instead, the victim did not receive the expected benefit. Instead of an "out-go," it was the lack of an "in-go." The loss was more invisible, but it was still a loss. Somebody got the benefit without the producer being compensated.

I spent a decade of my life, for free, having my life-risking and life-wrecking adventures and performing the study, writing, and other toil that produced my site as it stands today (plus most of my "spare" time in those other years – my site is truly my life's work), and I have given it all away. I had to give up ideas like becoming a parent and owning my own home, but it was my decision to do that. I don't ask that of anybody else, and I don’t ask anybody to risk and ruin their lives like I did (or Dennis, or Mr. Professor, or Brian O (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures)).

But if somebody did what I did and expected to get rich off of it, selling their wares, that would be their right (and along that path, they might get "lucky" and get the Golden Handcuffs (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make), but selling one's soul is costly in the end). They might not like it that I chose to give away my work, which might make it harder to sell theirs, but it was my choice to give it away, just as it was theirs to try to sell it. If the state wants to outlaw my right to give it away, then we have a problem. :)

Again, I do not kid myself that I could have done it if I lived in a poor nation. A person in a poor nation cannot afford to do what I did, just as I do not expect many people in poor nations to take advantage of what I have given away. I took advantage of my position as a member of history's most privileged demographic group to do what I have.

All criminals justify their crimes, and "copying is not theft" is just one more rationale. Again, in an FE-based political economy, people will not think in terms of wealth, poverty, and those other overarching ideas in our super-Epoch of scarcity, as almost no human effort will go into making every person richer than Bill Gates, literally. Today's average American is truly richer than the richest man on Earth of three centuries ago, as we take for granted surviving to be an adult, taking hot showers, traveling thousands of miles in hours, and other "trivialities" that were simply unimaginable three centuries ago. The realities of this world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) are far more unimaginable to people today, but I seek those who can wrap their minds around it without blowing a gasket.

As I have stated, the Free Software Movement could not have arisen except in an affluent society, and I see it as a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch, just like Dennis's marketing plan of putting the world's best heating system (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) on people's home for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs). He discovered the hard way (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle) that there is nothing resembling a free market in the energy industry, and the further that we pursued our path, the level of evil that we encountered got higher and higher, and we eventually got to meet Godzilla, kind of like in that movie Bambi meets Godzilla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3UogfAGg0). :) The "funny" part is that people such as Richard Stallman deny that Godzilla even exists, just like the rad left does (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#religion). They have the naïveté of the inexperienced, and the naïve cannot help with what I am doing. They have to be worldlier and awakened.

As far as the Free Software Movement and Microsoft goes, for instance, if they wanted to make something and give it away, and it directly competed with Microsoft, which Bill Gates rode to becoming the world's richest man, more power to them. But if they wanted to hack Microsoft's source code and give away that which was not theirs to give, then that is unethical, and in the USA it is a crime, if not in the Philippines.

In producing my site, I contacted authors whom I quoted extensively or used their original work, such as Howard Zinn (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#zinn2) and Peter Ward (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ward). They gave me their permission and then some, which is a long way from copying their entire work and "giving" it away, which is what the "copying" movement does.

To me, the motives of many in the Free Software Movement are noble, and I look forward to the day when everything is free (and "free" ceases to even be a concept), and humans have an entirely different framework from trying to survive in a world of scarcity. But if they advocate copying something that somebody made with the intent to sell, and not paying the maker, that is theft, no matter what lofty rationales they invoke. As Seth (http://ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist) said, the means become the ends. We will not get to this world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) via theft and coercion. Prominent rad lefties often advocate coercion (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#coerce) and violence (http://ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#left), like Marx did. That is the mark of their ignorance, IMO, although they invoke lofty rationales for it, even somebody as brilliant as Chomsky. They are not aiming high enough, not enough to help with what I am doing, and in my experience, their materialistic outlook helped lead to their spiritually stunted stances. That is partly why I found that a mystical awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) is very helpful for what I am doing. I am not sure that it is required, but I found that people mired in rationalism, materialism, and scientism (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle) were blinkered in critical ways, from denying that organized suppression exists (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level6) to invoking the "laws of physics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3)" for why FE is "impossible," to advocating coercion and violence as a worthy path to lofty goals. In short, they do not understand the power of love (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest), and I mean that in mystical and practical ways.

I have given my work away for a number of reasons, and one is to put a high mark on the wall. Making the biggest event in the human journey come to pass requires that the people involved aim very high. Humanity's inertia and the organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hurdles) have proven to be very formidable hurdles to making FE happen. I learned those lessons the hard way.

Legalistic arguments for rationalizing theft fall far short of what I am attempting, and if the Free Software Movement's members openly advocate theft (with clever arguments for why it is not theft), then they are going to fall short of what I seek. I will keep plowing through these posts, and might get though them by the end of this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
27th August 2015, 21:37
I have a few more questions.

Exclusionary covenants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_(law)#Exclusionary_covenants) are illegal today. But not following them surely violate the intent of somebody who wrote/wanted those covenants. Should they be legal?

How far does the intent go in time? Should we care about the intent of people 100 years ago, a thousand years ago? How far does the intent go geographically? If one creates a work for a geographically local market, what was the intent? Is it violated if people outside that geography copy it?

Patents are about stopping copying of ideas. Why stop there? Why not stop copying of the idea of software? I am sure that Microsoft would love to own the idea of software, bye bye Free Software. Why stop there? Any business can claim some unique idea, and prevent others from using that idea, the broader the idea the better for the business.

Krishna
28th August 2015, 00:37
To me, the motives of many in the Free Software Movement are noble

As I have stated, the Free Software Movement could not have arisen except in an affluent society, and I see it as a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch,

But again, I will be surprised if many from the poor nations (unless they are lucky winners such as Freeknowledge and SL) are going to study my work and join the choir.


Yes, the Free Software movements thinks about ethics. Since we are talking about intent and coercion, here is a relevant question.

Both Wikipedia and most software by Free Software movement is licensed under a Copyleft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft) license. In short, improvements made to the commons have to be contributed back to the commons (that legalism of Stallman). If the author releases work under a copyleft license is it coercive?

Free Software/Open Source is a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch no doubt, but its success is not because of its ethics, but due to its anti-rival nature (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-rival_good). The economics dictate its success, not the (ethical) politics. One could even say it is a by-product of the internet.

Affluence is a factor, in terms of energy my estimate is that people need 25% of US or 50% of Europe energy consumption, which happens to be almost exactly the world average energy consumption today. I am not able to guess how much lower the energy consumption can go. I see the limits from peak oil and global warming. Just imaging here... if we have average consumption of today but much more equitably, the world could be educated to the same level as usa today, therefore we can confidently predict that such a world would have wikipedia/free software at much greater levels of knowledge/usefulness.

In energy terms education is cheap and 10% of India's youth have access to college vs 40% is US. For young people of today, they are 4 times less likely to find you, not ten times as GDP/energy consumption would indicate. The question is will they see much faster education gains?

Melinda
28th August 2015, 02:00
Wade Frazier, Post #5565 : “...Yes, education helps, but the West is also adept at serving up the brainwashing with the education, even in science, which is supposed to be above that fray, but isn't. The human potential is pretty amazing IMO, and how people make do with little resources can be inspiring. But stick those poor Indian kids in their makeshift schools and send them here, and watch what happens...”

The education topic reminds me of a story I came across about an Afghan women, Razia Jan, who built a school for young girls in a village north of Kabul. Can't remember where I found it. Maybe someone here posted it, in which case please forgive my forgetful brain :)

http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/place-where-teaching-girls-poison-razia-jan-zabuli-men

In the (above linked) article she explains the fierce opposition she faced, dealing with the entrenched culture of oppression towards females, and violence from men who felt threatened by her endeavour.

One of the aspects of the story that moved me, and why I bring it here, is that she decided to teach the girls how to write their fathers' names during the first week of school – a step that resulted in a change of attitude from many males and elders who've since felt able to support her efforts and even look her in the eye.

On teaching the girls how to write their fathers' names :


“For the fathers, that changed everything. Jan, who spent more than 30 years in the United States, remembers their reactions. “I swear to God, the guy was crying. He said, ‘I don’t know how to write my name. I put my thumb on everything. And my 4-year-old girl knows how to write my name.’””


““When the filmmaker Beth Murphy came in 2009, she filmed these men saying that they didn’t want the school. When she came again in 2014, these men were saying that this was the best thing that has happened to our daughters, and they were so proud.
So I have the backing of the whole community. Yes, of course, some people might resist. But the men are coming with their kids.
I have three girls from the school who got married. And just recently their husbands, young men, brought their wives and said, “We are married, but can she still continue her education?””

Reading the story reminded me yet again of the potential with free energy. Much misogyny and opposition from (mostly) men to women's empowerment comes from a fear of losing standing, and that standing is based on the limited cultural norms that dictate a man's sense of self worth, e.g :

- His ability to provide for his family (in a competitive economy that is hard on him)
- His ability to feel he is master of his domain (in contrast to the way he feels he is subject to outside rule or whim from government / employers / neighbours.)

If we have access to the tools to experience true sovereignty, and to independently generate what we need to live well, many of the current factors that are shallow fuel for self-respect and 'standing' can quickly be made obsolete.

As an aside, certain women's opposition to the betterment of other women is also a fear of losing standing in a changing world, as women who have been conditioned to see their self-worth through the eyes of an oppressor (who defines it for them) might fear their role seeming belittled by that of educated women, and may also fear dealing with feelings of guilt or shame because they had lacked the courage to aim for greater rights. But support networks can be a key feature in finding the courage to act, and access to them is obviously dependent on broader energy use - it being key to social organisation (from texting, to cars, to sheltered meeting venues.)

A lot of men whose ancestors may have been prone to misogyny have grown up in a world that increasingly advocates the equal rights of women. Subsequently the increased opportunities available to women have given more men cause to be thankful for that equality and see the benefit of it. More educated women active as healers, teachers, artists, inventors - helping to build and bind community positively with inspired and creative minds.

I see it as similar to when Wade reiterates the idea that a lot of people may not be equipped to appreciate the benefits of FE until it is delivered to their door. Many people have not appreciated the benefits of equality, or varying kinds of technology, until the joys of a practical application enabled them to experience (first-hand) the improved quality of life.

In the case of Razia Jan, she had spent some years in the United States before returning to Afghanistan (her place of birth) to build her school, and has been involved in projects that build bridges between the worlds on both sides of the Atlantic. Journeys and communications made possible by a world run on the energy of physical fuels.

Energy is obviously crucial to education in the modern world – from the manufacture / transport / recycling of everything from buildings to books to computers. A dozen students sharing one computer on a school property does not give the same equality of information-access as places where every student has a computer to read and research in their own time – and a well-travelled student or teacher has firsthand knowledge to share the differences they witness abroad.

Computers for all can seem gluttonous viewed under our current energy paradigm, but one of the things I look forward to greatly with FE is our ability to recycle virtually everything we make, cleanly and efficiently, without harm to the environment. Not just by recycling the materials into something new, but through the reduced causes of competition inherently increasing our willingness to share, both goods and the skills to maintain them.

On another note, one quote from the article on Radia reads :


““The idea of a women’s college is fairly radical today—but when Jan was growing up in Afghanistan, it wouldn’t have been so rare. “Boys and girls were treated the same,” she says. “We went to school, we could go on bike rides, wear a skirt—we never covered our heads.””

We may never know how Afghanistan would have grown without the influence of the Taliban. But whatever internal/external circumstances supported their rise, and whoever helped fund it, a free energy world where every man and woman has access to clean, abundant energy can facilitate a sovereign way of life for everyone, regardless of country. Populations of liberated individuals who do not rely on governments or religious institutions to meet and/or regulate their agricultural, medical, manufacturing, employment or educational needs are in a better position to defend against the corruption of whatever community regulators they do decide to elect. Those populations will be made up of men and women whose self-worth need not be defined by poor access to educational tools, or by the oppressive economic factors that discourage our use of them.


Wade Frazier, Post #5571 : “...copying is theft, if the maker made it with the intention of making a living from it, and the copier does not pay. It is simple ethics. If I made something with the idea that I would be paid as you consumed it, and instead you did not pay me when consuming it, that is a violation of my intent as I made it...”

On the copyright/income debate, one of the things that has saddened me over the years is when people fail to make connections (just as they do with failing to see the relationship between energy access and quality of life.) I've met educated people who believe that music (for example) should be free because it provides spiritual fulfilment. They failed to realise that if an artist has to glean their income elsewhere they will not have time to hone their craft and promote their product; there won't be money to pay for quality equipment, musicians, tours and promoters. If they can manage to keep working, it can put them in the position of having to promote (often corporate) sponsors whose agenda may not align with their or their audience's independent spirit or philosophy. The same could be said of scientists or historical researchers, etc, who need time, funds and a spirit of independence to research and hone their work before publishing, and to promote it for discussion afterwards.

The more they are funded directly by sales, the less they are beholden to corporate interests whose agendas may censor / limit their work in a way that's politically acceptable, and the better position they are in to fund future works independently. I'm guessing that most authors (or their publishers) are not protective of copyright because they wish to punish people in poverty for enjoying their work for free, but because they need it in a world where – should their work generate income – they will have legal grounds to seek recompense. If people can afford to pay but simply refuse, we will (if we don't regulate ourselves as our own moral/ethical guardians) get the culture we pay for - which, if we're paying nothing, may not be much of a culture at all, except the ones that moneyed behemoths agree to shape for us.

Where it unfortunately gets cloudy, is in how the middlemen who collect for creators often take more than is necessary, leaving the author with an inappropriately small piece of the profit their work generates. With the internet revolutionising access to information, one of the offshoots is more independent creation and more self-publishing. But it still requires someone, somewhere, to fund the work. In a free energy world, where people have the means to create abundance (let alone security) I think more and more people will be happy to give their work away, and their main concern will be that others don't try and falsely take credit in order to generate benefits (of varied kinds that are not financial.) But until then, I would think we need to be mindful of blanket advocacy for free information – the kind that damages those who can encourage our mental and spiritual growth through their work that still costs money and time (which also means money) to create and to share.

I'm not claiming to address (with the above) every aspect of the copyright debate that may have surfaced here recently. Just sharing a little reflection on one aspect.

A world based on scarcity has enabled wealthy parties to sweep up increased levels of power, through influence over laws, land and other resources - gathering higher numbers of minions to do their bidding. But as we safely and peacefully implement a free energy culture, spiritually hand in hand with physically, enabling us to provide for ourselves and freeing us from survival mode to think more broadly and compassionately, we will be able to address any number of laws that are outdated in a benevolent and considerate world.

I read two more articles the other day about the ugly environmental cost of the solar-power industry. If we can facilitate something far less costly to the environment, that safely provides significantly greater abundance, and supports a much broader freedom for individuals to create and share independently, it would seem foolish not to. Recently I've also come across several people in interviews mentioning shoe-box sized free energy devices (based on magnetic motors), which seem a lot more practical than solar-panels that are vulnerable to harsh weather. Those devices have (as many here either know or sense) been suppressed. Still, it continues to amaze me, what a significantly healed and uplifted world we can have, if we can muster the strength to create the spiritual foundation.

I was feeling down earlier, but felt nature calling me to the trees. So I went for a long walk in the park and soon enough felt nourished in body and spirit. Walked through the trees, bare feet on the warm, wet grass. Felt completely and truly uplifted. When I returned home and gazed through the window, I witnessed the formation of a double rainbow, arcing across the sky. Apparently in some cultures it signifies transformation, and both the material and spiritual realms.

Seemed apt to share, in a thread for free energy :)

Much love to all



Pic from the web : a double rainbow through the trees

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj550/DoodlemakerUK/Vivid%20Double%20Rainbow_zpspqvulavc.jpg

heyokah
28th August 2015, 10:00
Here's what Harald Kautz Vella has to say about scarcity versus abundance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSqEG3rOoII

Wade Frazier
28th August 2015, 13:54
Hi:

OK, I am going to have time to catch up on a bunch of chores, including catching up on this thread. To address this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988991&viewfull=1#post988991) more fully, again, the cause of the pristine demographic transition (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic) was the rising standard of living that industrialization brought. Women and slaves being liberated was an effect, not a cause. In the non-pristine instances, poor nations are getting the benefit of Western technology and culture, and women are getting educated, but without the economic opportunity that breaking out of an agrarian economy affords, it is a great struggle, of that kind of partway stage. We saw Iraq and Iran (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#iran) making their way to the Fourth Epoch, but they sat on Fourth Epoch fuel, so the West (the USA, really, with token support from imperial has-beens like the UK and sycophant nations eager for some of the imperial spoils) destroyed those nations, and Iraq quite evilly (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading).

Where I live, across the street from Microsoft, is kind of a little world's fair, with nerds from all over the world living and working, especially from the high castes of India and East Asia, but I also see Africans, Middle Easterners, Eastern Europeans, Russians, etc. While most Indian men dress in Western fashion, it seems that about half of the Indian women (who are not Microsoft employees, but their wives) walk around in saris, but I rarely see the red dots on their foreheads (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindi_%28decoration%29). It is quite an East-meets-West scene, and far from a pristine instance of the demographic transition. Many bring over their parents, who very much cling to their traditional ways and dress, to care for the children, and I often see those huge Indian families at the grocery store, where the dad is at work while the mother carts around several small children. You almost never see that with white people in the USA. Anyway, interesting, and those Asian children born and raised here will almost certainly never move back to the Old Country, unless the USA keeps collapsing like it has been. People raised in a Fourth Epoch economy are not going to want to live in a Third Epoch economy. In the USA, you have Amish and intentional agrarian communities, and they are like peasant communities (Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3)) in a sea of industrialized communities (Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4)).

When Darren (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts) stumbled into my work years ago, and read about my comments on the austere environmentalists, he thought I was wrong, but the reality of his existence eventually became clear to him, as he realized that he kind of lived a peasant's life, struggling to get his energy.

So, there are going to be small fluctuations, as women's status goes up and down based on economic conditions, and the like. There is going to be regional variation and proximal causes and feedback effects, but it is really all about the Epochs, which is all about the available energy. It dwarfs everything else.

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989086&viewfull=1#post989086), with Dennis's heat pump (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new), tinkerers definitely began the business, but they were never going to help take the business into the industrial phase. The entire "industry" was stuck in arrested development, like the FE field is today (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#arrested), dominated by scientists and tinkerers. The craftsman approach is Third Epoch, and does not work for industrial production. You need a factory environment to achieve the quality needed for industrial-level production. Tinkerers in the field don't cut it. Although Dennis was an untrained businessman, and a marketing and sales genius the likes I have never seen before or since, the way that he industrialized fledgling industries stuck at the craftsman stage was incredible. He did it with the foam insulation industry (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#foam) before he got involved with his heat pump (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco2), and his programs were so explosive that his "allies" constantly tried to steal his business (but never understood that Dennis's marketing programs (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), not the technology, made the difference), and his attempts to carpet the USA with his heat pump is what brought the organized suppression to his efforts in Seattle (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle), and when we started making FE sounds (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#pursuit), Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) finally rolled out of bed to see what all the noise was about, and we were then quickly wiped out (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr).

Again, I'll be catching up here, soon, and will make a bunch of lengthy, Wade-like posts.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
28th August 2015, 16:31
As a 'P.S.' to my last post, thank you freeknowledge for the Chomsky interview link (Post #5566) :

http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20090519.htm

This post isn't aimed directly at you freeknowledge, it's just a general exploration...

As usual, Chomsky's in-depth understanding of myriad situations enables concise overviews that cut to the heart of Western economic hypocrisy - such as where he outlines how the wealth of the West was largely built on piracy, but modern Western media / government (shaped by financially powerful corporate influence) decries Somali pirates whose waters are being plundered and polluted by those same or similar wealthy foreign interests. I also understand the points that huge corporations (e.g. pharmaceuticals) can use intellectual property rights and WTO protection to support insidious market monopolies - he suggests that if pharmaceuticals' development budgets were taken over by the public and corporations were regulated, made to sell at market prices, the public would make huge savings.

In a neat summation of corporate-level piracy he writes:

“It's called "kicking away the ladder". First you use certain bits of development, and then you kick away the ladder so others can't follow you.”

Theoretically, if the pharmaceutical industry wasn't essentially an influential lobby of organised criminals, not only could the public make huge savings if the true cost of their development budget was publicly funded/regulated, but it could make savings due to genuine (often inexpensive) cures being legally permitted to surface/flourish.

Perhaps due to ignorance of a great deal concerning various industries and niche areas of their research, I'm uncertain how much information protected (or even hoarded) by copyright and patent protection is actually necessary to assist what is fundamentally necessary to curing our bodies, minds and politics (even though I'm aware that entities like Monsanto would gladly patent every last seed, if they thought they could.) But it prompts the recurring question, how can we garner the strength to oppose powerful economic interests, who poison governments as well as the planet, in an economic system to which most are addicted, without first creating the energy means to sustain ourselves independently? (For those living off of prana the debate perhaps only remaining irrelevant until those who don't, come to plunder the forest and/or mountain in which they live.)

Additionally, Chomsky says of artist copyright :

“...it should be, in a free democratic society, a sort of responsibility arrived at by democratic decision to maintain adequate support for creative arts as we do for science. If that were done, the artists wouldn't need copyrights to survive. That's economically more efficient, I believe, and morally more justified.”

I've come across that premise before, and under our current energy/economic paradigm it makes a point, one that I used to align with to a degree. But compared to the deeper independence that can be facilitated by a free energy culture, it also has a whiff of dependency about it. And it also raises the questions, such as:

1) If artists were subsidised by a budget, with their income capped, would they not receive the benefit of market profits the way other creators/goods-providers would? Would that limit their long-term ability to fund their own creations or philanthropic endeavours?

2) Who would manage the funds that form the budgets? And if those bodies, or their artist vetting systems are open to corruption, does that make the artists' situation less or more democratic than if they function with copyright protection in a market economy?

I'm wondering where and how would we draw the line at what kind of creations/products deserve state or 'publicly managed' budget allocations, and which creators conversely get to benefit from the independence that can result from market profit?

I can see how intellectual property law can be used, in our flawed economic system, to reduce people's manoeuvrability. In a system that compounds scarcity, people gladly take what goods they can for free where legal consequences can be avoided, hence download piracy, hence powerful lobbying interests saying we need greater internet controls to manage our freedoms (in a way that may have dire consequences for freedom of information that go well beyond, and stifle more vital areas, than the entertainment industry.)

On the one hand, the web has lead to greater democratisation, e.g. I can watch/read/hear an offering, but if I decide it wasted my time then at least I didn't have to pay for it. But how many honestly decide to purchase something after enjoying it for free? And in an economic realm of artificial scarcity (artificial because it suppresses FE and profit-diminishing innovation) how many people can afford to purchase everything that uplifts them?

Debates like this always tend to bring me back to free energy. If we can address the root of the problem, and we can all have access to the energy that can support not only our survival but a considerably higher quality of life, there will be less incentive for corruption and/or profit-drives, and there can be less need for concern over which science or art gets funding from state or 'free' market mediums.

I know that can sound 'pie in the sky' to people who wish to at least try and amend our deeply flawed systems now. But if we don't cut to the heart of the problem with our energy sources, we risk destroying our home planet while we're busy restructuring the political system which, compared to our ecosystem collapse, is just an another brand of distraction, (hence the ties between politicians and the entertainment industry.) In that regard I wish more people were joining the debate due to seeing its relevance. (And I'm not referring to specifically Noam, whose cultural contribution most here acknowledge as great enough already.)

If anyone feels I've misunderstood anything, please let me know. I haven't delved into every last one of freeknowledge's copyright links.

Wade Frazier
29th August 2015, 04:07
Hi:

This is the first in a series of posts, as I take a break from chores and responding to posts. I'll put these in my forum, too. This will take the weekend to complete, and maybe longer.

There is a method to the madness of my big essay, but I have yet to have anybody really play with me. The first half of my big essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#midpoint) is a warmup for the last half, as humanity enters the stage (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#path). There are many events for which the observer could ask, "Was that intentional, or an accident?" The best scientists say that as far as our physical universe and the journey of life on Earth are concerned, today's science cannot answer that question (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mystical2). That same question has been posed for many geopolitical events, and the conspiracists and structuralists (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) are at the same poles as creationists and materialists are on the evolution debate, and it took me many years to realize that both debates spring from the same mentalities. When you have direct personal experience (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote) of abilities of consciousness that far exceed what scientists are willing to admit, you see those arguments as pretty pointless and as the battles of two fundamentalist camps, although the issues themselves are very important, IMO.

In the realm of animal behavior and cognition, there is great controversy over the level of cognition behind animal behaviors (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mirrortest). The same can be debated for humans. In evolutionary theory (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#darwin), there is debate over the "survival of the fittest," the "arrival of the fittest," and how things came to be. Why did one species survive while another did not? Those are big questions, and have many tentative answers, presented with varying levels of confidence. I think that why the dinosaurs died out and what survived is (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction) well explained by the bolide hypothesis, but the controversies still rage.

Anthropologists have studied "primitive" societies and found their practices energetically ideal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#meateroi), but nobody in the societies thought of it that way. They were just following their traditions that were thousands of years old and integrated into their religion and culture. An evolutionary explanation might be that societies that did not adopt energetically ideal practices did not survive, whether they did so consciously or not, so the fittest are here today, no matter what Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) they lived in. That is a fascinating way to view it, and it may be the right answer, even though it has been dismissed by some as a tautology. Of course, whatever life exists today is here because it successfully played the energy game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energygame), and those that did not are not here today.

Humanity's Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) were all energy events above all else, and none of them were planned, but just kind of happened, when the inventor(s) came up with something new, to make their lives better. None of them suspected what their inventions would lead to (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine). How could they? Their world ended as they knew it, because of their new energy practice. Even for the most recent event, the Industrial Revolution, nobody planned it, in the sense of, "Hey, let's have an Industrial Revolution." England was the beneficiary of a confluence of events, largely energy events, which led to the Epochal Event. In ways, it was the least radical of the four so far. The first led to humans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1), the second led to their conquest of Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2), and the third led to civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) and hundreds of times as many humans. The Industrial Revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3), for all of its vast changes, was not as dramatic as any of those. But all of those will be dwarfed by the Fifth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), as humanity becomes a space-faring species and a Type 1 civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kardashev), and more importantly, the super-epoch of scarcity will end, in ways similar to the Pre-Cambrian super-eon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precambrian) of simple life ending as complex life arose.

Greedy Englishmen (actually, the one who initiated the trend was an invader, William the Conqueror (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Conqueror), of Viking stock) removed the peasants from the land with Game and Enclosure Laws and began mechanizing farming, and those dispossessed peasants (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaltowns) became the Industrial Revolution's first workforce, working in the mines and mills owned by a rising class that is today called capitalist. Just as court historians provided ideological service to the elite in preindustrial civilizations, intellectuals prostituted themselves and justified capitalist rule via their economic theories (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists). The rise of England (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#uk) was a story of energy, technology, greed, bloodshed, and conquest that historians and other intellectuals dressed up into a tale of glory, as that little island nation became history's greatest empire, which spanned the globe (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#damage), until it was eclipsed by its offspring (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm). Neither capitalists nor royalty cared one whit for those they conquered and exploited. They were simply playing the wealth and power game, and were able to make it a global game, beating out their neighbors (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jockeying). None of them were trying to initiate an Epochal Event, and none of them were trying to uplift humanity. That was never the intention, but self-interest guided all actors. The West's reign has been devastating for the world's peoples, as demographic catastrophes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2) were inflicted by those white people. The charade of "charity" and "philanthropy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#philanthropy)" attended those events, but it was virtually all fraudulent.

For the first time ever, people are trying to initiate an Epochal Event, with some idea of its ramifications, and that is what my choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) idea is all about. Somewhat bizarrely, the technology to make the Epochal Event happen is older than I am but is sequestered in ultra-elite enclaves (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground). In my circles, that is not even news, but old hat, and Brian nearly yawned when I told him about what my pal saw, when he got his little exotic technology demonstration. My friend's bewildered response to the show was, "You guys don’t live in my galaxy." Anybody who does even a little digging happens upon the president of Lockheed's Skunkworks (http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/08/ufo-are-real-ben-rich-lockheed-skunk.html) waxing on about ETs and ESP (http://www.mufon.com/video-testimonies-3/in-1995-ben-rich-ceo-of-lockheed-skunkworks-said-we-now-have-the-technology-to-take-et-home-as-can-be-seen-in-this-video). Heck, what is sequestered at the Skunkworks, Phantom Works, Area 51, and the like is not even the good stuff. Maybe once they were, but the good stuff has long since disappeared into Godzilla's Golden Hoard. My pal only got a little peek.

On this thread, various people have bombed in with, "Energy, so what?" So everything. Only the scientifically illiterate make remarks like that. Even on the financial side of things (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#realeconomy), the importance of energy should be evident. Six of the seven largest corporations on Earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue) are oil and gas companies, and more than half of the world's twenty largest companies are energy companies. Energy is everything in our universe (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energy1), and energy runs everything on Earth. Average Americans have the equivalent of several hundred energy slaves working for each one of us (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyslave). That is why we are history's richest and most powerful nation. Everything else is noise. All geopolitical events of significance revolve around the energy issue, which explain everything about the West's involvement in the oil-rich Middle East for the past century (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#churchill1), and pundits have to work real hard to obscure it (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#ultimate).

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
29th August 2015, 15:49
Hi:

The previous post was a prelude to a discussion that I need to have about the Epochs and making FE happen. Making FE happen will be the hardest nut that humanity has ever cracked, and it is not really about technology. The technology has already been made (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground). The challenge is to humanity's integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) and sentience (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). I don’t need very many for my idea to work (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), but there are not many on the planet today (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle). Mr. Professor and Brian O had the right stuff (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), but their journeys shortened their lives. A few hero/martyrs cannot get it done (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah1). Dennis is as heroic as I ever heard of (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), and he can't get it done by himself. Indiana Jones versus humanity's inertia and Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) and friends has not been a pretty contest, let me tell you. Dennis should be dead dozens of times over, and there are far more pretenders than contenders in the field, with FE newbies announcing that they are the Messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah), shamelessly lying about Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel), naively embracing the criminals while attacking Dennis and Brian, etc.

The Energy Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) define the human journey, and each one was so radically different from the others (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) that placing people from one Epoch into another would have been so traumatic that they would likely not have survived, or gone insane. Even within the Epochs, the changes could be vast, but there was also continuity in ways. The human journey, from when Homo sapiens appeared on the world stage until today, has been about controlled combustion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1). That has been a constant. Another has been weapons and inter-human violence. The first stone tools (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#stonetool1) likely found dual use as a way to obtain more calories and attack or defend from neighbors. Spears and arrows were certainly used for hunting (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#msa), but people regularly used them on each other (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#violence2), especially as societies ran out of energy as they drove the easy meat to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bison). Humanity has had many golden ages of easy energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#goldenages) as they exploited new energy resources that eventually became hard times and societal collapses (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses) as they ran out of that energy. Another constant has been the dance between the sexes, and women have generally been second-class citizens or even chattel, in our might-makes-right world, which has not been that different from chimp and gorilla societies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#infanticide1) in important ways. To date, only bonobos (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1) overcame the penchant for violent male rule. We pretend that we have progressed beyond that, but the world's most powerful nation regularly invades nations under the flimsiest pretexts (the real reason was to steal their resources (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#ultimate), mainly energy, and enslave them) and slaughters millions, primarily children (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading). The USA is not that different from Hitler's Germany (heck, we hired all the useful Nazis after World War II (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#gehlen), which nearly led to World War III), for all of its high-sounding rhetoric, and most Americans do not care in the slightest (http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/), as their focus is completely egocentric, with their awareness rarely extending past their immediate self-interest, and the "civilized" West generally either stands by and watches or enables the USA's behavior, to get a cut of the loot.

But for the constants, the changes between the Epochs were radical, and the Epochs had their phases. The controversy of just when the human line controlled fire (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1) and when they used it for cooking (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cooking) will likely outlive me, but the First Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1) would have had the "before fire" and "after fire" phases. Even wild chimps have an appreciation for the virtues of cooked food (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#afzelia), so fire must have been used for cooking soon after it was controlled, and it may well have led to the appearance of humans on the evolutionary stage.

The Second Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2) had its "easy meat" and "hard times" phases, as the early golden age gave way to population growth, reduced territories, and warfare as neighbors fought over their scarce energy supplies. Australia was a kind of time capsule for that phase, as the aborigines remained in their hunter-gatherer phase until the British invaded them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tasmania1).

The Third Epoch had two phases and arguably a third. The first was substance agriculture, and in the pristine instances of agriculture (called horticulture in its early phase), women brought in most of the calories, their status rose, for the first time in the human line in at least ten million years, in many such societies, they became matrilocal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patrilineal1), broke up the male gangs, and those are the human journey's most peaceful pre-civilized societies. The second phase was the rise of civilization, and the pristine ones all began peacefully (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), until men reasserted their dominance and those societies once again became ruled by violent men (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#legitimacy). With the rise of civilization came many features that are still with us today, with professions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions), literacy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#writing), metal use (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bronze), mass warfare (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare), and so on. Where the first civilization appeared, in today's Iraq (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sumer), has been the site of rising and falling empires ever since, even to this day, as the USA invaded and destroyed the nation in order to control its oil (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#ultimate). From the Mongol hordes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mongol) to today's most "enlightened" nation, as Uncle Noam (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big) has stated, human morality has not changed in the slightest. The arguably third phase of the Second Epoch was when Europe began to ride an energy wave (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#watermill2) that saw them turn the global ocean into a low-energy transportation lane (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sailboat2) and use it to conquer humanity. That conquest was well underway when one of the imperial contenders had to resort to coal because all of its forests were gone (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse), and the Fourth Epoch began.

The First Epoch was fueled by enhanced energy supplies via manufactured tools and the control of fire, to burn wood. The Second Epoch was fueled by Earth's large animals, which were nearly all driven to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#australianmegafauna). The Third Epoch was initially fueled by deforestation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#treesenergy) and crops (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kebaran), and in its second phase, those dynamics were intensified, and humans also began using animal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#plow) and wind power (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sailboat1). That arguable third phase began when northwestern Europe began using watermills (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#watermill1) in its High Middle Ages (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hma), and rode that wave to world conquest, assisted by the reintroduction of Classic Greek teachings (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#toledo).

The Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) began with harnessing fossil fuel energy, and the first was coal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coke). In those early days of the Industrial Revolution, coal was more important for smelting metal than its use to power steam engines (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#steamengine1). Wind and water power were competitive with coal power (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#waterpower) until the mid-19th century. Soon after coal overtook wind and water power in the USA, as the USA led the way in driving the ocean's megafauna to the brink of extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#whaling) and that energy supply began running out and the USA began mining oil (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#oilwell), the Fourth Epoch's second phase began. The widespread use of electricity came soon afterward (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#electricity2), and the USA quickly became the world's richest and most powerful nation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#oilwell), overtaking its British parent. The West mercilessly raped and plundered the world's people, inflicting unprecedented demographic catastrophes on them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2), in its quest for wealth and power, which has always been and always will be rooted in the energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary).

When imperial latecomers arrived at the global smorgasbord (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kipling), there were only crumbs left for them, which led to the greatest wars that humanity has yet experienced (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#lebensraum), capped off with exploiting a new energy source: an atom's nucleus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nukes1). The day after the USA nuked Hiroshima (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping), people began writing about the potential of that new energy source (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#reactions), and the Fourth Epoch's third phase began (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ep43), which I live in today.

The Fifth Epoch had its first glimmerings (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#teslatower) with the man who invented the technology that electrified the world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tesla1), and the organized suppression of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) by the global elite (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) likely began back then, and it has been refined into a science today (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make).

My next post is going to be about the cognitive/social aspects of the Epochs and their ramifications for my choir efforts (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) and the people I seek (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#why). People in the Third Epoch today, or even the early Fourth, will probably not be much help for what I am attempting. The Fifth Epoch will most likely be initiated by people living in the Fourth Epoch's third phase, which means people living in high-tech industrial cultures. They will have the least amount of ideological baggage (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) to drag along with them (although, in ways, they are history's most brainwashed people (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#manager)). Some lucky people from Third Epoch societies, such as SL and Freeknowledge, may be able to help with what I am attempting, but their roots are in the Third Epoch, so it will be challenging for them. Dennis began his life that way (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis), too, and his efforts (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dennis) can be seen as a harbinger of the Fifth, but Dennis is one-of-a-kind (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany).

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
29th August 2015, 21:57
Hi:

I may not have time for another post today, but today's reading included yet another presentation on the USA's energy supply over the course of its history (http://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-evolution-of-americas-energy-supply-1776-2014/), on a percent basis. I read about how the Pentagon's new war manual (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-28/pentagon’s-new-“law-war”-manual-“reduces-us-level-nazis”) reads just like something that the Nazis would have written. I was also reading about what is shaking up the stock markets these days (http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/94160/heres-why-markets-suddenly-become-so-turbulent), which was written by one of the more perceptive financial bloggers out there (http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html), who unfortunately is a Peak Oiler, and I have never been able to reach one of them (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm), and I tried with him, too, fool that I am. :)

I had a nature/nurture exchange today (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?3788-New-General-Thread&p=18662&viewfull=1#post18662), and I think that the pig toilet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_toilet) analogy is appropriate. If somebody is fed crap all of their life, they develop a taste for it, even crave it, and cannot imagine eating anything else. I have watched people embrace certain death rather than question their conditioning (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom). It was awe-inspiring to witness. I am an American, and can speak best to what happens in my great nation, but we are all UP (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#up), and react similarly to similar situations. Americans are force-fed the red, white, and blue Kool-Aid from their cradles, forced to worship a flag (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag), etc. I know what the brainwashing feels like, believe me, and it happens on many levels, but people can wake up from the nightmare if they want to. After many years on the FE trail, I finally came to understand that people are addicted to scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation), or more accurately, their adaptations to survive in a world of scarcity. Take away scarcity, and a lot will change, and dramatically, so dramatically that the world will end as we know it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5).

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th August 2015, 17:51
Hi:

Now that I have laid the groundwork in the previous posts, I want to discuss human thought and the Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable). The first brains appeared more than 500 million years ago, in worms, and before both the Permian (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#permianextinction) and Cretaceous (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction) extinctions, the dominant reptiles were encephalizing (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#encephalization), which means that their brains were growing, proportionally. When mammals inherited the Earth after the dinosaurs were wiped out, they began growing to fill the niches that archosaurs left behind, and reached maximum size 40 million years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mammalsize), and stayed that size until humans wiped out Earth's easy meat (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#australianmegafauna). But 40 million years ago, no mammals were appreciably encephalized. Cetaceans were the first mammals to encephalize, and they did so around 35 million years ago (http://www.cabrillo.edu/~malancraig/Articles/Cetaceans.pdf), as Earth entered the Icehouse Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#icehouse) phase that we are in today. A leading hypothesis regarding encephalization is that sociality was the trigger for it, as the benefits of being social required more mental horsepower to socially navigate.

Chimps are the most encephalized land animals and considered the smartest, so the rise of the human brain began from a high plateau to begin with. Chimps pass the mirror test (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mirrortest), which is considered a threshold for sentience, but several million years of brain growth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpbrain), from the human-line split from chimps (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpsplit), resulted in behaviorally modern humans about 60,000 years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap), and they quickly conquered Earth, while wiping out all other human species (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#climateneanderthal). Michael (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) said that humans became ensouled when we became behaviorally modern. Interesting idea, but not scientifically testable today.

That dramatic brain growth in the human line has few precedents in the fossil record. The growth of lungs as fish left water (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tetrapods) is comparable, but the brain is a very different organ. We humans have not had our big brains for long, on the evolutionary scale. If we became sentient only 60,000 years ago, we are still getting the hang of it. Michael says that humans and cetaceans are the only ensouled species on Earth, which could be analogous to "sentient." Michael Hyson (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/79-Introducing-Michael-Hyson) is one of the world's foremost cetacean experts, and when I went to Hawaii to hang out with him and swim with dolphins, everybody in the Big Island's dolphin community considered dolphins their peers, and they all had experience of dolphins' telepathic abilities, which I also got to experience (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#dolphins).

I have had many experiences of human paranormal abilities (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#research), and the human story is far larger than mainstream scientists can paint today, but the story that science paints is still an important one. After five years of playing the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere), and getting nothing but crazed denial and fear from his colleagues (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), even from the world's leading "visionaries" and "progressives," (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) Brian O began openly wondering if humanity is a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). It is a fair question. I call humanity semi-sentient. The capacity for sentience is there, but it can easily get short-circuited by conditioning and fear. Fear literally shuts down the neocortex (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fearresponse), as the fright-or-flight reaction kicks in. All of the crazed reactions to the idea of FE that I have witnessed over the long decades of my journey have been something to behold, and when Brian asked his "Are we a sentient species?" question, I sadly understood.

Hitler once said that the way to make people submit to domination was to threaten them with immediate, violent death. I watched my nation go literally insane (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc) after 9/11, in an orgy of flag-waving, as herd instincts took over and Americans lost all semblance of sentience for a time, and we are well on the way to becoming the new Nazi Germany, or Rome, but as it declined and collapsed. Our imperial peak is behind us, as we run out of energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert) like Rome did (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peaceofrome).

So, the idea of human sentience, and how to enhance or suppress it, is a highly important subject. Even though we are all UP (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#up), each Epoch of the human journey saw highly distinctive forms of social organization, ideology, and technology, and human thought has generally become more complex and sophisticated over the human journey, as we increased our energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) with our increasingly sophisticated tools. Each Epoch was shorter than the one before, by about an order of magnitude, and the surplus energy grew each time by more than an order of magnitude. As Michael stated (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age3), ensouled species in our situation today wipe themselves out a third of the time, through either environmental destruction of warfare, and the smart money has humanity wiping itself out via World War III, as humanity fights over the fast dwindling oil deposits (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wwIII) long before our environmental practices catch up with us (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth). Choose your poison.

How about we choose to become a truly sentient species? :) That is what my work is all about. Energy and consciousness (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness) are the only two things that exist in our universe, and energy and sentience are at the crux of the human dilemma.

Within that framework, I want to discuss the human Epochs, their dominant thought forms, and making FE happen. During first Epoch, Homo sapiens appeared on the evolutionary scene, but the Epoch began around two million years earlier, when Homo erectus appeared on the scene, which was the most radical change in the human line (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#turkanaboy). There is great controversy today over how much of Homo erectus's arrival and development was due to the control of fire (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1). Home erectus definitely controlled fire and made the first stone tools that could be considered the product of craftsmanship (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#acheulean), but they did not change for more than a million years. Like the billion years before the rise of complex life has been called the boring billion years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#boring), the reign of Homo erectus has been called the boring million years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#boring1), when not much seemed to be happening on the toolmaking front, which likely also reflected the cognitive front.

Probably less than a million years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#heidelbergensis), Homo heidelbergensis appeared on the scene, and by 500,000 years ago, its toolset began becoming more sophisticated (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#msa). Homo sapiens appeared 200,000 years ago, but it took more than 100,000 years before the toolset improved enough to indicate that Homo sapiens became behaviorally modern, and the greatest feat that they achieved was likely the mastery of language (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#language). A split from Homo heidelbergensis, Neanderthals, invented new tool technologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mousterian), and there is great debate today over how "sentient" Neanderthals were. As with all of the megafauna extinctions that accompanied the human conquest of Earth (the second Epoch), there is a camp that vociferously denies that Homo sapiens drove Neanderthals to extinction, and that climate change did it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#climateneanderthal), but as with all the other scientist who try to deflect responsibility from their species, their arguments are in the distinct minority, and virtually all scientists who have looked into the issue and were not trying to defend their in-group (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) all admit that the likeliest explanation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#clovis) is that behaviorally modern humans drove all the world's easy meat, and all of their human competitors, to extinction. Humans became the greatest energy windfall opportunist in Earth's history, and they usually depleted an energy resource to exhaustion, and then plundered the next one, which took new levels of cognition, social organization, and technology (http://ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct) to exploit.

Australian aborigines, Negritos, and sub-Saharan African hunter-gatherers have given scientists a glimpse into the Second Epoch. They were male dominated (as the human line had been since at least gorillas (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#infanticide1)), exceedingly violent (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#deathrate) (about a third of all men died violently), and their religious ceremonies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing) were singing and dancing rituals that could last all night, even months, and helped form group cohesion so that the tribe could prevail in warfare against its neighbors. Warfare has been primarily resource-based from the beginning (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#density).

Whenever one Epoch met another, the earlier Epoch disappeared, similar to how behaviorally modern humans conquered Earth: they had superior energy practices. In the original Neolithic expansion of agriculture (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#maledna), the hunter-gatherer women mated with farmer men and hunter-gatherer men disappeared from the genome. In the Bantu Expansion in sub-Saharan Africa (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bantu), thousands of years later, the same dynamic happened, and it also happened in the New World as Mesoamerican farmers expanded into North America (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mendisplaced). When Spain, at Epochal Level 3.5 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal35), invaded Caribbean natives at Epochal Level 3.0, they never stood a chance, and were quickly driven to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#genocide), as native men disappeared from the gene pool (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaindisplaced).

When the rapacious Spaniards encountered New World civilizations, the natives also never stood a chance and were swiftly conquered and eradicated, with the Aztecs going first (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#aztec), soon followed by the Incas (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#inca). The natives were rubes compared to Europeans, and they never really understood the European mind and motivation until it was too late. The European boot was swiftly laid across the entire world's neck, with catastrophic results (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2). For lands similar to Europe's, the invaders annihilated the natives and took their land, and in more tropical environs, the natives were enslaved. England, in Epoch 4.0, easily conquered and enslaved the entire Indian sub-continent (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#bengal), turned a rising people back into peasants, and turned India into one big plantation to supply their British overlords.

In those early agricultural societies, women brought in more calories than the men, and they often became matrilineal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patrilineal1), which was a first in the human line in at least ten million years, and like bonobos (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1), they were the most peaceful pre-civilized societies. When England began invading North America (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english), the Eastern Woodlands (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mississippian) were dominated by matrilineal horticultural societies, which was something unheard of in Europe, and from the invasion's beginning, an epidemic problem for the invaders was the "settlers" running off and going native (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#captive), as the attractions of their societies were obvious. But as with the others who encountered Europe in its conquest phase (also called the 500 Year Reich in some corners), the natives were swiftly annihilated by the invaders (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english), as they came to take their land. Hitler modeled his plans for Eastern Europe (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#hitler) on what the English and Americans did to North America, and it is only because he targeted white people for annihilation that he became the "monstrous" figure in history. Christopher Columbus (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm), George Washington (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), and Thomas Jefferson (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jefferson) were equally monstrous if not more so, little different from Genghis Kahn (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mongol), when you get down to it, but they are heroic icons in my great nation. What the USA did to Baghdad was not that different from what the Mongols did to it, several centuries ago, and what we did to Fallujah was aptly described by American participants as similar to Hitler's siege of Stalingrad. But we are the light of the world, at least in our egocentric eyes, just like all imperial peoples have always seen themselves, whether they were Sumerians (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gilgamesh), Romans, or the English.

I will end this series of posts with one on how people thought in each Epoch and how hard it is for a person to move from one Epoch to another, and what the implications are for my effort. We have people living in the Second, Third, and Fourth epochs today, and I live in a polyglot nation that has seen people from Third Epoch cultures, and even some from the Second, live here. My grandfather went from living in a sod hut (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas) (soon after the Second Epoch hunter-gatherer natives were eradicated (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#familyname)) to watching his son help put men on the Moon (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary), and he saw his grandson try to initiate the Fifth Epoch, but like almost all humans today, he really could not comprehend what I was doing. Heck, my own parents had no idea, and even attacked me (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492) for my trouble, even though they raised me to become what did (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm).

Hardly anybody on Earth understands, but that is normal. They cannot even imagine the coming Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine), and when they get a glimpse of it, they react with denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), and the "smartest" of them develop sophisticated arguments (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3) for why FE is impossible, undesirable, or won't be very transformative at all, as they project their Fourth Epochal understanding on the Fifth (projecting scarcity onto a situation of abundance), and fail to understand. They won't begin to understand until the Fifth Epoch arrives, and that is normal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink). I do not seek choir-members (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) from people stuck in the Fourth Epoch, or Third, but those who can help me help make the Fifth happen, and I know how rare (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle) they are. New Age (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage) conspiracists think they are hip and understand, but they don't, as they think like victims instead of creators (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness), which is typical (they usually try to tell me how powerful Godzilla is (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc), as if I did not know – he chewed on me and my fellow travelers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) – and how hopeless my quest is; he is not nearly as powerful as he pretends to be). The end of the Super-Epoch of Scarcity will be nothing like what humanity has ever experienced before, and this kind of world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) quickly comes into view.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
31st August 2015, 00:01
Hi:

This will be on the Epochs, the technology, cognition, social organization peculiar to each, and coming soon are the implications for what I am attempting. As noted in my previous post, sociality and encephalization seem related, and sociality in the human line goes way back, even before there were mammals, and sexual reproduction is about a billion years old (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sex) and was likely a key to favor sociality.

Closer to Homo sapiens, monkeys are highly social animals (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rhesus1), have crude forms of politics that are often lethal, they culturally learn via observation and mimicry, and the great apes, especially chimps and orangutans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpculture2), took it further. The progression of what we call intelligence (largely the ability to solve problems) through that evolutionary path is unmistakable. Chimp infants are ahead of human infants, developmentally, until about age two.

Great apes have all passed the mirror test (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mirrortest), and after that split from chimps, the human line learned to walk upright, make relatively sophisticated tools, and about two million years ago, they left Africa and spread across Eurasia (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#migrate1) while chimps and gorillas stayed in their rainforest homes. Enhanced mobility, tools, and cognition enabled that journey, and the evidence that those "hobbits (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hobbit)" may have been habilines or australopiths and that they controlled fire leads to the idea that relatively sophisticated cognition, which we might call human, may have begun more than two million years ago.

We do not see the abstract thought and behavior called art emerge until Homo sapiens began to achieve behavioral modernity less than 100,000 years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap), but there is obviously a rich heritage of thought and behavior that humanity is heir to, which is pretty deeply baked into our DNA and cultures. How much of that heritage was shared with Neanderthals is a lively debate today.

The evidence today strongly suggests that many radiations of animals and even plants were due to marginal species being pushed to the margins and adapting to new environments and thriving, whether it was fish invading land (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tetrapods), marginal monkeys leaving the canopy for the ground and becoming apes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#proconsul), or marginal chimps becoming humans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpsplit). In the early days of the big radiations, life was easy, once the new environments had been mastered, as there was little competition for energy. The adaptive radiations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adaptive) after mass extinctions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#extinctioncauses1) were also that way. They were the golden ages of many kinds of animals (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#goldenages), who suddenly found themselves awash in energy. The human journey has similar golden ages, in the early days of exploiting new energy resources, from killing all the easy meat (http://http:/ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#humancaused) on continents that did not host primates, much less anything like humans, to "pioneers" "settling" continents that had been the abode of people of earlier Epochs (the same continents where humans easily killed the megafauna (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#clovis) is also where those natives swiftly died off when Europeans invaded), to the early days of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1) or exploiting coal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse) or oil (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#oilwell). Those golden ages all came to an end, however, as people bred to the land's carrying capacity under that Epochal energy regime and/or the energy ran out. Then it became hard times, warfare escalated, and societies collapsed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses).

As humans drove the mammoths of Eurasia to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gravettian), the escalation of violence (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#violence1) is evident in the archeological record. While there was new territory to migrate to, full of easy energy, people chose to simply move on, not fight, but as territories shrank, mutual hostility and warfare became the name of the game, and killing men outside of their territories, with no questions asked, was the norm. When the British invaded Australia (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tasmania1), they found about 600 societies that were all mutually hostile and warlike, which likely represented humanity on the brink of the Domestication Revolution.

The beings in the First Epoch had increasingly sophisticated toolsets and cognition, and they were able to migrate across Eurasia, marking a very distinct departure from their great ape ancestors. It was still male-dominated, as hunting was the main way to provision themselves past their rainforest and woodland homes, and dimorphic males excelled at it. Females cared for their young and gathered.

Humans of the Second Epoch were behaviorally modern, and at 30,000 years ago, their brains were even 10% larger than today, which likely meant that they had greater raw mental horsepower than humans today, but they had a long ways to go to reach the collective intelligence and skillset that led to civilization. Women were still second-class citizens and even chattel, which was a "tradition" going back ten million years or more. In the late Second Epoch, about a third of all men died violently (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#deathrate). They had religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing), which was likely a reaction to warfare, to achieve societal cohesion to survive battles with their neighbors, and nobody would have called those days a golden age.

In a few places where large animals had been largely been hunted to extinction, and where plants with energy stores to survive seasons were exploitable (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kebaran), people began to domesticate plants, and the Third Epoch was born. The beginnings of agricultural were peaceful (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacefulagriculture), and a brief golden age for women, before their status declined again (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#womenstatus1). That act led to civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#agciv), and it happened independently at least twice (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1). Civilization meant many radical changes in the human journey, culturally, technologically, and cognitively. And like the hunter-gatherer phase was not really sustainable, and went through an early golden age that became competitive and violent, civilizations did the same thing, as battle over territory began early on, and it was all energy-related, from forests (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#treesenergy) to fertile soils to low-energy transportation lanes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#watertravel), and early civilizations never lasted long, as they wiped out their energy supplies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycivilizations). But people no longer killed strangers on sight, new kinds of social organization appeared (not all for the better (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slaverybeginning), certainly), and literacy is one of the many inventions of that Epoch that are still with us today. I may be writing on a computer, but the basics of how I am writing have not changed for thousands of years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#writing). In ways, this is a primitive way to communicate, but we still have not bettered it all that much.

After thousands of years of Fertile Crescent civilization, the rise of what could be called scientific thought began, exemplified by the Classic Greeks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#classicgreece), who also wiped out their energy supplies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#athenshinterland) and soon collapsed into a backwater that never really rose again. I doubt that it is much of an exaggeration to say that Greeks began the era of modern thought, which was stamped out in Europe by the religious authorities, but was reintroduced when Christian armies seized Islamic libraries (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#toledo), and the rise of Europe began in earnest.

If you had taken a First Epoch being and dropped him into a Second Epoch society, he would not have even been able to communicate with those beings, and may well have been killed on sight and maybe even eaten. If you had taken a Second Epoch man and dropped him into imperial Rome (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine3), that would have been something to behold. If you had taken a Roman centurion living in what became London, and dropped him into today's London, imagine what that would have been like, even if he could speak English after a fashion. In ways it would have been somewhat familiar, but in others so alien as to be beyond his wildest imaginings.

Even the sub-Epochs had radical changes. If you would have taken a New Yorker from 1800 and dropped him into today's Manhattan (or even Manhattan in 1900), he would likely have been nearly as overwhelmed as that Roman centurion would have been.

I am coming to the point of these recent posts soon, probably with my next post.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
31st August 2015, 03:04
Hi:

The European invasion of North America (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english) was largely about marginal European peasants getting free and fertile lands, as long as they wrested them from the natives. Peasants from Scotland and Ireland became the Scots-Irish "settlers" that were called rednecks, hillbillies, etc. I have that heritage (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#englishinvasion), as does Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis), and Mr. Professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr) came from Scandinavian stock that began flooding the Great Plains and vicinity once the Indians had been eradicated. When I took that road trip two years ago and saw Dennis and others, I was very impressed with how rural the USA still is. It is sparsely populated compared to Eurasia.

My family name can be traced to Scotland in the 1730s, and in the 1800s, my ancestors took advantage of all the free land that was there for the taking (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#familyname), once the Indians were removed. My grandfather lived in a sod hut as a child (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas), and was really little different from a peasant. Dennis grew up as a migrant farmworker, when white people still did that in the USA. Peasants from Latin America do that work today. Dennis was forced into leaving home at age 13, which was not very unusual in that culture. My father was born in the Great Depression, paid for every scrap of clothing that he wore from age six onward, and was paying rent to his father at age 16. At age 16, for the first time in his life, he traveled more than ten miles from where he was born, and saw his first black man, who was passing through town on a train. That was nearly as isolated as any peasant ever was.

Mr. Professor was a year older than my father, grew up on the family farm in North Dakota, and lived that American peasant lifestyle. I have visited his family farm a few times, the last on that road trip, to also visit his grave (and had another one of those extraordinary experiences (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=850430&viewfull=1#post850430)), and I also took two trips to Kansas, to see my family's roots. There is plenty about that farmer background that made Mr. Professor and Dennis who they were. I have always been charmed by that Midwest farmer honesty, which their simple lives had plenty to do with. It was a different breed from what I experienced with hillbillies, who once tried to get me fired from my job, because I was not from their community.

Organized religion is a Third Epoch institution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing1), and the Bible is a Third Epoch work (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tales), and its stories read like fairy tales. My grandfather was raised on religion, with his family being Quakers, but when I lived with him in the early 1980s, he had left all of that behind and admitted the ignorant and unenlightened times that he lived in (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#moved). The nuclear marriage is also a Second Epoch institution, was largely an economic one, and the vast majority of Second Epoch marriages were arranged (http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0019066), which continued in the Third Epoch. The West left arranged marriages behind (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arranged_marriage) when the Industrial Revolution began, but women were still economically dependent on men, and marriage was an economic institution. My grandparents married like most did back then, but they had to get married in secret, in the basement of a church that became a bed and breakfast that I stayed at in my most recent visit to Kansas, because my grandmother was a schoolteacher, and schoolteachers were not supposed to be married in those days. That was less than a century ago, but such a situation would be met with bewilderment in today's USA.

My grandfather lived to see his son help put men on the Moon (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary), and his grandson chase after FE, but my grandparents would not acknowledge my wife's existence until we got married, as we "lived in sin." I was not happy about that, but I also realized that that was more ideological distance than they could travel in a lifetime. I deeply loved my grandparents, but saw how they were stuck in their conditioning, for all they had seen and done in their lifetimes, to begin life in the Third Epoch and have a grandson trying to help make the Fifth happen.

Dennis lived as a migrant farmworker while growing up, and his mother drug him to Sunday fire-and-brimstone sermons when he was a child. Dennis never bought the biblical fairy tales when growing up, even asking the ministers if they really believed what they were saying, but when he had his mystical awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice), it was not long before he became a fanatical Christian. He has shaken the thrones of earthly power many times on his journey, but he will go to his grave as a fanatical Christian. Leaving behind that Third Epoch ideology that he grew up with is too far for him to go in a lifetime, even though his efforts were (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), IMO, harbingers of the Fifth, and he is the best of the best (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany).

Mr. Professor came from the culture that created paleoconservatives, and he taught accounting and firmly believed in capitalism. But what happened in Ventura (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr) woke him up in ways that he never imagined. By the end of his life, he was a Howard Zinn fan (http://ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm) and wanted me to teach people how the world really works, and my site is partly about fulfilling his desire for what I might be able to accomplish. My writings are largely written in the hope that what we learned will not go to waste.

Brian and Dennis grew up drinking the red, white, and blue Kool-Aid. It inspired Brian to become an astronaut (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), but in his last book, he wrote about his codependent relationship with Washington D.C. Dennis nearly killed himself (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice) when he realized what a lie his nationalistic indoctrination was, as did my CIA pal Ralph McGehee (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#saigon). Brian eventually woke up, too, but all three of them never really seemed to totally discard their American indoctrination, even after Brian fled the USA (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland) in fear of his life, and Dennis was similarly run out of his home nation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&viewfull=1#post694872), The Land of the Free, for trying to save the world.

Those are people whom I had nothing but the greatest love and/or respect for, and I saw how they struggled with their conditioning, even as they pushed the envelope of human civilization. Dennis, Brian, Mr. Professor, and others in my circle knew that FE technology existed (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), and had some idea of what its ramifications were – the end of the world as we know it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) – but I saw them all wrestle with their Third and Fourth Epoch conditioning, and they never quite shook it all. And I am going to convince people on the Internet, by mere writings, into thinking in Fifth Epoch terms? Not hardly. Only those with very rare qualities (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) are really going to be those I seek.

The religion of the Fourth Epoch is the rationalist-materialist paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle). It is arguably a more insidious ideology than the dogmas of organized religion. I know that their foundational tenets are false. I have had many experiences (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#research) that show me how false they are, but the "smart" have lapped up that ideology as fervently as any peasants banging their Bibles. The greatest physicists knew that there was something very awry with the paradigm that mainstream science operates from all too often, but their words (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical) largely fell on deaf ears among their "peers." Organized skepticism (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends) is really little different from Dominican Inquisitors, protecting their racket.

The "Left" is trapped within the rationalist-materialist paradigm, and their structuralism (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) is a symptom of their malaise. There is nothing wrong with rational thought, the scientific method (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories), and so on, but they are far from the be-all, end-all, and their ideals have never been achieved in the real world, just as there has never been a free press (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), a true democracy, an objective history (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity), etc. Conspiracism is kind of a Third Epoch phenomenon, engaged in by the scientifically illiterate and the paranoid. Again, conspiracies certainly exist, and my life's work was targeted by the biggest one on Earth, but to use it as the sole explanatory framework is as unbalanced in the opposite direction (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness) as the structuralists are.

The Fifth Epoch will go beyond all of that, and the ideals of Jesus, Gandhi, and other greats can be realized. But it will take an unprecedented act of integrity and sentience, by a relatively small group of people (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers), to get humanity over the hump.

Can people from peasant societies actually leap past the Fourth Epoch and think in Fifth Epoch terms? Those will truly be needles in haystacks, probably more like a few grains of sand on a beach. I am not counting on them, but anybody who has Internet access and can read English is welcome to try.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
31st August 2015, 17:10
Hi:

OK, back to posts, and then vaccination. To finish on this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989086&viewfull=1#post989086), the economic arguments for intellectual commons are good ones, but it is up to each person to decide to contribute. If they want to keep their knowledge and information proprietary or patented, that is OK, too. A truly superior system will not need to coerce anybody to join it.

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989371&viewfull=1#post989371), that is an interesting analogy to the English commons. If they outlaw giving one's work away, then Stallman's concern is valid. Back to what I stated before, that if people were making software and then giving it away to the world, that can only happen in an affluent society. If they weren't really giving it away, but expecting that others would also give it away and they had what is called "reciprocal altruism," which really is not altruism at all, then that is a different animal. Enclosing the commons was in very real terms a cutting off of the peasants' energy supply, as were the Game Laws. It had the effect of dispossessing peasants and forcing them into the mines and mills of the Industrial Revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gamelaw), if they wanted to eat. It actually took away their livelihood and forced them to rent their labor to eat. That was the evil of "primitive accumulation" that Marx was nearly the first economist to point out (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists). Creating an intellectual commons is a different animal, as people already have their livelihoods taken care of (being in that affluent society) and they have not outlawed giving away one's work. I see the similarity between the commons that fed people and the intellectual commons as distant, even only superficially similar. What is interesting is that both happened at the cusp of a new epoch.

The bottom line is that in a world of scarcity, people are going to be reluctant to give away their work. I have never met a truly altruistic inventor. They were all trying to make an income from their invention, and on the FE front, they can really go crazy with greed, delusions of grandeur (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls), etc. I advocate making and giving away FE because it is likely the only strategy that will work, as the avenues of patenting and keeping FE technology proprietary (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) has never come close to working and likely never will. But there will not be any coercing of any inventor to give it away, or stealing it from them. Acts like those lack integrity, and any lack of integrity will doom the effort.

Microsoft rode its proprietary software and monopolistic practices into making Bill Gates the world's richest man. Do I think that is a good thing? No. Do I favor changing the laws to outlaw proprietary software and technology? No. What I envision is that when FE and abundance appear on the world scene, people will eventually realize that hoarding their personal "means of production," whether it is the fruit of the land or the fruit of their labor, physical or mental, will be seen as an obsolete concept when everybody is richer than Gates. The idea of making a profit, of hoarding wealth, of exploiting others, will go the way of slavery and other obsolete ideas and institutions. The rise of the corporation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#corporations) was intimately related to Europe's conquest of the world, and really took off with Industrial Revolution, phase two (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rockefeller1). It is a Fourth Epoch institution, and will become obsolete in the Fifth Epoch.

This is similar to how I say that cities will become obsolete when FE makes its appearance. Nobody is going to be coerced into not living in cities. People will quickly see that today's cities are like living in caves (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cities), compared to what an FE culture will make available. In the early phases, I can still see somebody like Bill Gates vociferously arguing for the paradigm that made him rich, but very soon, he will seem like a whiny three-year-old, and he will grow up. Nobody will even need to tell him, but he will figure it out on his own.

To Freeknowledge's idea of a ten-year copyright, that is fine, but all of this intellectual commons, economic advantages, and non-rival and anti-rival concepts will be seen as primitive gropings toward a world of abundance, when literally everything is free, and free ceases to have any meaning. In this world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), there is no money, and nobody pays for anything. Heck, I make it very clear that when FE makes its appearance, money will quickly become obsolete, as will all ideas of economic exchange (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange). They only have meaning in a world of scarcity.

That is why when Freeknowledge asked me to contact Richard Stallman and the Free Software Movement, I decided that it might be worth my time, but Stallman is a worshipper of that Fourth Epoch religion, the rationalist-materialist paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), and he is a staunch Level 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3). Sigh. I found it highly ironic that somebody advocating what he does is openly hostile to the idea of FE, because he thinks it will take the wind out of his Free Software sails (talk about a scarcity mindset!), according to a leading Free Software figure who tried to interest Stallman in FE, several years after I did (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130).

Freeknowledge may have cleared up any misconceptions that I had about the Free Software Movement with this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989765&viewfull=1#post989765). If very few in the Free Software Movement are actually motivated by serving the common good, then I am largely wasting my time trying to attract their attention, as the self-serving are going to be deaf and blind to my goal and approach. If their hearts are not in the right place (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), first, the rest will not matter.

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=989960&viewfull=1#post989960), again, hobbyists can only be hobbyists with the affluence that an energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary) affords. And this is getting real close to describing my strategy. I already chased FE, full-time, and fasted because it was cheaper than eating, we were so broke. The world system is so evil and rigged against any alternative energy of consequence that even putting the world's best heating system on people's homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs) was not enough to keep the "consumer protection (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#scam)" gangsters off of Dennis's back. The system has made it so that you can’t make a living chasing FE, so I am asking people to study for and sing in my choir as a hobby, not as something that they are going to try to make money off of. Spending ten years of my life, working for free, and barely surviving the experience, is far beyond the hobbyist level of the game, but those in the choir can do what I ask at a hobby level, if an intense hobby. :) It could be the critical missing piece for making FE happen.

The similarities between the Free Software Movement and what I am doing can seem tantalizingly close, but in other ways so far, but I will likely write Open Letter 2.0, directed toward some members of the Free Software Movement.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
31st August 2015, 20:21
Hi:

On a brief chore break, and responding to Avalon posts break, and I think that I need to reiterate my position and how I got there. I won't belabor my preposterous journey and those of my fellow travelers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), which would be far more preposterous if I was free to publish more names and dates, and this vignette will begin when I finished the version of my site as it largely stands today, in September 2002.

My site really began attracting attention after 9/11 (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc), when many Americans and Westerners were jolted out of their stupors. I also began fielding so many attacks, even personally threatening ones (http://ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll), that I decided that it was not worth it anymore to interact directly with the public, and I generally have not, ever since. But when I took on all comers for several years, I formed many cyber-relationships, and I still have important ones from those innocent days, and one pal was one of Bucky Fuller's pupils, he called me a comprehensivist, and I did not know what he meant. He had me read some of Fuller's work (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) and the light bulb went on, and the paradigm that I had been groping toward for many years finally crystallized. Soon after reading Fuller, I first became aware of the Peak Oilers, as the USA was beating the drums to invade Iraq (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), and I have to give credit to Richard Heinberg's (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm) work for introducing me to that milieu.

I had been on my energy journey since 1974, when my first professional mentor's engine began making waves (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), and a decade later I got to chase my energy dreams (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting) and had my life shattered, as I was radicalized (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books). Soon after I began the deep dive that eventually became my site today, I met Brian O (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), who was just getting his feet wet in the FE milieu, and he nearly died the next year (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) at the hands of the USA's military, because he poked his nose into the UFO milieu. In 1996, Dennis and Brian were both on the FE warpath, with Dennis barnstorming the USA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=422926&viewfull=1#post422926) and Brian beginning his ride as the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere). Five years later, after Dennis's effort had collapsed (with plenty of Godzilla's help and "help" from Dennis's "allies"), I chauffeured Brian around the Sacramento area, when we were nearly run out of town because we tried to interest California's governor in FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#governor), as Enron and friends were in the midst of raping California. Brian and I traded notes that day, and I heard how his ride as the Paul Revere of FE went. I heard a litany of crazed reactions of denial and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), coming from the world's leading "progressive" scientists and "visionaries (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130)," and Brian ended that part of our conversation with, "Is humanity a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience)?" I sadly understood, as I had been active in the milieu for fifteen years, on and off, by then, but it was interesting to hear Brian's experiences, playing at the highest levels of Earth's scientific, academic, environmental, political, and "progressive" organizations. It was about then that I formalized in my head what I eventually called Level 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3), of pipe-smoking and sherry-drinking (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sherry) "intellectuals," many with Nobel Prizes (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill), who reacted to the idea of FE with denial and fear, as they trotted out the tenets of their Fourth Epoch religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle) to deny FE's possibility and even importance. It really was crazy.

When I encountered Heinberg's Peak Oil work and he actually mentioned FE, but in a kind of semi-ridiculing way (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg), I thought that maybe I had an opening there, but was I ever wrong. For somebody who actually mentioned FE as a possible solution to running out of hydrocarbons, it was incredible how stuck and in denial he was. I was eager to introduce him to Brian, who asked me to co-found NEM with him (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem) a few months later, but Heinberg was worse than a dead end, and he has been beating the Peak Oil drums of doom and austerity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity) ever since. As I always do, before I ever contacted Heinberg, I read his sources, including Catton's Overshoot (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#catton), Deffeyes's Hubbert's Peak (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#footnotes), and Tainter's The Collapse of Complex Societies (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter), doing my homework, and I would be lying if I said that I not learn important things from those studies. I have been a student of collapsed civilizations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#collapse1) ever since, and I have read a great deal of Peak Oiler work since then. That the world is quickly running out of conventional oil (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert) is unassailable. The only real controversy is quibbling over exactly when it will all run out, but it will certainly be in this century.

But in the wake of my Fullerian revelation and encountering Heinberg's strange, contradictory positions, I finally was able to articulate what my fellow travelers and I had been encountering for so many years: people were simply addicted to scarcity, and they regarded the idea of abundance with denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) or fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), or both. They even became suicidal (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation). They were as addicted to their scarcity-based religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle) as any fanatical religious, political, or economic fundamentalist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) was. It was awe-inspiring to witness how dogmatic and stuck they were, and their thinking that their denial and fear was somehow rational.

That aside, however, the Peak Oiler and related works were highly educational, and in some ways, they could be said to have helped inspire my big essay. My original energy essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm), which is still largely in the same state as I originally wrote it in about 2001, shows what my thinking was before I encountered Fuller and began the studies that resulted in my big essay more than a decade later.

I learned the concept of EROI (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#eroi) from those studies, and the concept of energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus) and ecosystem and economic resilience (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#resilience). Resilience, in ecosystems or economies, is almost entirely an energy concept. Energy surplus is what allows ecosystems or economies to weather the vagaries of life on Earth. Take a poor nation such as Haiti, which had a 7.0 magnitude earthquake five years ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake). Seattle had a 6.8 magnitude quake in 2001 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Nisqually_earthquake), and the only "damage" to my home was one paperback book falling off of a bookcase. Haiti was devastated by the quake, with its shanty towns collapsing, and it is still in the early stages of recovery, five years later. That difference in initial damage and recovery (Seattle recovered in minutes) between Seattle and Haiti was all about the energy surplus, and particularly the "recovery" that Haiti will not be finished with for years, and the scars will last for generations. I experienced quakes all the time in my Southern Californian upbringing, even had my bed jump around the room with me sleeping in it, but our house was never damaged.

I graduated from college during the worst recession in forty years and was soon thrust into the urban hell of Los Angeles (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928). It was so hellish that walking by a dead body on the way to lunch elicited no comment from my colleagues. It was just a day in the life of living in hell, in the cultural capital of history's richest and most powerful nation. People think of LA and California as sunshine, beaches, babes, and movie stars, but I worked in the underbelly of it. I don’t need to visit India or the shanty towns of Latin America to understand what poverty does to people. I already got a bellyful of it before I was 25 years old, after my idyllic baby boomer childhood, and it was partly responsible for even intensifying my dreams to change humanity's energy paradigm.

As the Peak Oilers and scientists have noted, energy surplus is responsible for ecosystem and economic resilience, and peoples that have that surplus are better able to meet challenges and solve problems than ones without it. Those without it are living on the edge or survival, and a tiny blip in an ecosystem or society with a large energy surplus becomes a calamity that can see energy-poor ecosystems and societies collapse. When I hear fat and comfortable Westerners say that FE would really not mean that much to the world's people, not only are they scientifically illiterate (or their egocentrism has blinded them), but they are like those sherry-sippers that Brian O once worked with. With the vast energy surplus that FE would afford, humanity's problems would become far smaller than today and would be easily addressed. The sherry-sippers quite frankly don't care – they got theirs – and are no use for what I am attempting.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Servant Limestone
1st September 2015, 15:27
Hi again:

It's been a while since I haven't posted. Looks like the current stage of grounding myself is going to take some time as well as digesting the information of the first half of the essay, which I have to be honest, I am not really doing since I am too distracted by other things so far, or at least I am letting myself be distracted. But I just have to be patient like a true Jedi. Hahaha. :)

I am interested all of a sudden of that 2001 Nisqually earthquake with a magnitude of 6.8 which is not that far from the projected 7.2 magnitude "Big One" future Manila earthquake and only 0.2 magnitude stronger than the Haitian earthquake. Granted that Haiti is far poorer and more oppressed nation than the Philippines, I know that there's a big difference between 6.0 and 7.0 earthquake and even 0.4 is a significant difference. But given the destruction of the Haitian earthquake at 7.0 and the Washington earthquake at 6.8 with the future 7.0-7.2, I realize that it's not really me and my immediate family or clan that's going to be severely affected by such a future earthquake, it's going to be those people in the shanty towns and squatters that I am seeing everyday here. They are just nearby. They will be very devastated and local governments will be unprepared here, no matter what the propaganda, to deal with the disaster. And it's going to take a very significant amount of time before electricity and water services are going to be restored, so in a way we are going to be affected by that. Hospitals are going to be full of casualties and everything. That's the problem that I and my family are going to face and some minor injuries, depending on the situation if you are hit by a falling object or something or even none at all. But it's more of the aftermath that I am afraid of now as I make a rough comparison of your experience of an earthquake in a First World society versus of my semi-First World way of living in a Third World society. Me and my family are going to be very lucky in some way or another. But many others around us wouldn't be. That's the very sad part of it. :( Many places of the Greater Manila Area are going to resemble Kathmandu, which suffered from a far stronger earthquake, and Port au Prince and the damage are going to be divided on class lines. The Philippines is going to be lucky in terms of getting a chance to make a substantial recovery unlike small countries like Haiti and Nepal and despite the semi-ghettoized look of the place I live in, I know that we are going to be safe. But it's my other fellow countrymen... :( There's a mixture of relief and sadness over contemplating over that latest post in relation to my situation.

Thanks for reading,

SL

Wade Frazier
1st September 2015, 16:06
Hi:

On to the posts again, and starting with this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990097&viewfull=1#post990097). Freeknowledge, let me think about Open Letter 2.0. I understand wanting to speak their language some, but I really am after those in the Free Software Movement who want to serve the common good. You seem to be one of those, and it is why I have not quite given up on the movement yet. Those are the only people who are going to be any good for what I am attempting, and trying to fit into somebody's ideological framework has always been a mixed bag, primarily because they are all rooted in scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), and my message is one of abundance.

On this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990387&viewfull=1#post990387) and this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990449&viewfull=1#post990449), I am not going to understand the Free Software Movement as well as you do, as I am not in it. Again, I was in the FE movement long before there was a Free Software Movement, designed information systems for a living (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#footnotes), and spent more than a decade working for software companies, and if not for that voice leading me to Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2), I very possibly would have gone to work for Microsoft in 1986, and I would not be working for a living anymore. :) But my soul would not have been fulfilled, and that has been one benefit of my journey, no matter how rough it was. No regrets, but I would not wish my journey on anybody.

You interested me in the Free Software movement more than a decade ago, and its similarities to the concepts of FE and what we tried were intriguing enough that I tried with the father of the movement, to help him understand FE, including both the challenges it faces (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hurdles) as well as its potential (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). Stallman denied that we even faced the challenges that we did, as it sounded too much like a "conspiracy" to him, and he was stuck in the "Laws of Physics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3)" trap, and I recently heard from a leading member of the Free Software Movement who tried to interest Stallman in FE at a public event, and Stallman was openly and publicly hostile to the idea of FE, and that person thought that Stallman's reaction was due to fear that FE would eclipse him and FS. It was one of countless examples that I have seen, as a "progressive" sees FE as the enemy, as bizarre as that can seem. If the father of the Free Software Movement reacted that way to the idea of FE, what chance do you really think I will have with the Free Software Movement as a whole?

If I do Open Letter 2.0, we'll see how I approach it, and thanks for your ideas. Really, my big essay is my statement, the kind I'll never do again in this lifetime, and all of this forum work is really ancillary to what I hope to do, which is build that choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), so that it can form a strong nucleus of people who understand FE and its ramifications, so they can keep their eyes on the ball and we can get something done. As you know, I give a pretty big nod to the importance of information and communication in that essay, and I would say that my site is kind of the ultimate in that regard. Nobody has ever attempted what I am doing, and it is uncharted territory. I have done what I can to make my work accessible to lay audiences, and I will reach out a little more to the Free Software Movement, but I am not going to spend that much time on it. Education is important, and I think that my work shows how I feel about that, and in that regard, the pals you want me to reach should see me as an ally, but the energy issue far and away eclipses all else. The rise of life on Earth was an energy event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyevents), not an education event, and some apes came along and learned to play the energy game in ways that no other animal ever had, and cultural learning in our line goes back to monkeys (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rhesus1).

Education is indeed important, but what is in people's hearts is more important (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69). I learned that the hard way (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). Seeking to uplift the world's poor through education is a noble motivation, but energy is going to uplift them far more. My recent posts on the Epochs and thought are germane to the issue of the world's poor and my work. While my work is freely available to anybody with Internet access and who can read English, I am not expecting that many people from poor nations are going to be able to get up to speed enough to be in the choir (those 5-7K), and they certainly won't be in position to really help make something happen (those 100K (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers)). They will be the most dramatic beneficiaries of FE, but they are not going to help my efforts much, I am afraid. People from industrial nations are going to be those who really help, for a few reasons, and one is because they already live in the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) and have made the mental strides, just by living in industrialized societies, which will make it easier for them to comprehend the Fifth. People from peasant societies (Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3)) are going to have a very difficult time understanding. People like you were privileged members of peasant societies, living on an island of relative affluence in a sea of poverty, and like many in India's high castes, you made your way to the USA. I am surrounded by them every day, living across the street from Microsoft like I do. They are all happy that they escaped, for all the challenges that living in the USA poses to them.

My intent to encourage your FS and rad left writings was to tell what you learned from them, especially how those lessons related to how you came to understand the FE issue. On that, your writings could be important, more important than mine, for reaching the Free Software Movement. I will try a little more with the Free Software Movement, but not that much. A lot of what Stallman and Moglen write is very lefty, and I tried with the rad left (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm), too, ever since I first wrote to Uncle Noam back in 1992. I never found anybody home on the FE issue in the rad left, and I tried repeatedly with Noam and Uncle Ed (http://ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm). Heck, I still try with Uncle Ed, and so wanted to introduce him to Brian when he was alive, but alas, Ed was not interested. They are ancient saints with a lot on their plates, and I cannot blame them too much for staying focused on their lefty stuff, just like I really can't get too much on Stallman's case for running away from FE. It is just frustrating when the really big one, which makes the Free Software Movement's and the rad left's struggles entirely vanish, is treated as unimaginable or the enemy, as hard as that can be to believe at first. My experience has been that that is part of the problem. FE means the end of the world as we know it, and even the dimmest among us can begin to see that, and geniuses like Noam and Stallman cannot fail to get a glimmer of that potential, and quite frankly, it seems to scare them, just like it scares almost everybody, as they have dug into their niche of survival in a world of scarcity and won't budge. I have witnessed it literally thousands of times, from the dumbest to the smartest. The Fourth Epoch religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle) is seductive, particularly for the "intelligent," and Noam and Richard worship at its altar. As with all religions, it is managed by those with a vested interest in keeping control over the flock, and if it is done properly, the flock manages itself.

FE happening will be the biggest event in the human journey, by far, and the mere idea of it overloads the circuits of even people such as Noam and Stallman. Again, I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle). It can be as few as one-in-a-million people for my idea to work, and if we leave out peasant nations, it still would be only one-in-200,000 or so. That is still enough to work (I think that those I seek might be as many as one-in-a-thousand, but one-in-ten-thousand is likelier), and I plan to spend the rest of my life's "spare" time on this task. Others are charging at the ramparts, and I wish them the best, but I was already there, more than once, and I know what they are up against, and their own foibles and betrayals of their allies will do far more damage to their efforts than the organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) will. And the FE Young Warrior (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors) newbies always scoff and play games of denial, like those 18-year-old men getting ready for their first battle (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business). Mine is going to be the lamb's path. Impatience is my Achilles heel (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading), and the past 41 years of my journey, since I first glimpsed the future (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), have been teaching me patience. :) I fully get how desperate these times are (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), but I am not going to water down my message to reach the masses, etc. I already played that game several times, carrying Dennis's and Brian's spears (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10), and it did not work, to put it mildly.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
2nd September 2015, 14:35
Hi:

Anecdote time. I have several anecdotes to tell, of the culture clashes I have seen in the USA. From the very first cities in Sumer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions), social organization along kin lines no longer dominated, and professional affiliations were something new. Empires such as Rome and the USA became polyglot political entities, with many ethnic groups coming together. The "When in Rome (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/when_in_Rome,_do_as_the_Romans_do)" saying relates to the clash of cultures that can happen in such societies, and how to avoid them.

My family bought its first house in 1964, at the height of the building boom during the postwar boom, in a new city, Camarillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camarillo,_California). The houses were kind of thrown up, and they did not design the streets very well, so they flooded when it rained. I remember our family driving by the home as it was being built. Our neighborhood was a mix of middle-class families, all with young children, as the Baby Boom had just ended. The entire community was new, and when we moved to Houston in 1966 (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary) and back to Ventura in 1967, we lived in new homes in new communities.

My youngest brother was not yet born, but I was six and my younger brother was five, when we moved into the first house that we owned. That brother got into trouble since he could walk, and within a day of moving in, he was fighting with the next-door neighbor's boy, who was my age. My brother was sent home from his first day of kindergarten, for being disruptive and combative, and that was only the beginning of his very "auspicious" academic career, which saw him get put into the army by my father at age 17, with the other choice being going to prison.

Anyway, the neighbor boy whom my brother fought with was from an Italian-American family that had just moved from New York City. After we had been moved in for a day or so, my father answered a knock on the door, and it was the father of the family next door. He introduced himself and told my father that their sons had been fighting. My father thanked the neighbor and was prepared to discipline my brother (he got spanked almost daily in those years; in my father's generation, beatings were common, and my father had his skull broken by his father, such were the brutalities of those days), but the new neighbor said that the issue was not yet settled. The neighbor informed my father that he was supposed to come out onto the front lawn and fight, because their sons fought. My father was stunned. While they may have done that in New York City or Italy, it was something never seen on the West Coast. My father was not sure what to say, but he declined the offer to fight. That family eventually adjusted to West Coast living. :)

In the 1970s and 1980s, Soviet refugees came to the USA, and it became a flood after the Berlin Wall fell. Apparently, in the 1970-1980s, windshield wipers were hard to come by in the Soviet Union, and the Soviets just stole them from each other, so no cars had windshield wipers on them unless it rained, and then all cars would stop while everybody put theirs on. My father told me that Soviet immigrants were amazed at how easy it was to steal windshield wipers, and as theft was a way of life there, it caused problems when they came to the USA, thinking that anything not nailed down could be stolen. When Russian mobsters came with the immigrants, especially on the East Coast, they created quite a splash, as they were much more violent and ruthless than the relatively genteel and "soft" criminals that ran the East Coast's crime scene.

When I put my wife through graduate school in Ohio, after I staggered out of my home town (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), radicalized, it was quite a shock to me, to live in the stressless environment of central Ohio. I vividly recall the moment when it hit me, after living there a month, while I was walking to the nearly shopping center, that this was life in the Midwest, and I realized that in LA and even Ventura, I strapped on my mental armor just to go out the door, bracing myself for the crazy traffic and high-stress day that was ahead of me. I did not even realize I was doing it, and it took a month out of that environment to realize that I was doing it. To live without the daily stress of simply living was an incredible luxury to me, and when I took years off of my career, to do my study and writing, I also had a steep reduction in my stress-related coping mechanisms (drinking was one of them). When I began making pretty good money in high-tech, for the first time since my yuppie days in LA, I was not working on a tight budget, barely making the rent, digging out of debt, fasting because it was cheaper than eating, etc., and it was a fantastic relief to not be on the edge like that. I am very familiar with what daily stress can do to people, and I am a member of history's most privileged demographic group. The human horizons under an FE-based political-economy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), in which everybody is richer than Bill Gates, can barely be glimpsed today, and most people cannot even imagine them.

This is prelude to telling some anecdotes about one of my wife's classmates in graduate school. In her class were two priests: one from Canada and one from India. The one from India I will call Frank. My wife was raised Catholic, her parents were extremely devout, and when they visited us in Ohio, we attended one of Frank's masses. Frank returned to India and founded a professional school in what he got his doctorate in. We were very friendly with Frank, and I took him to one of the Sunday meetings in the local mystical community. The woman who hosted the local gatherings had a lending library in her home, which I once helped her organize (about the same week that I met Brian (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet)), and he eagerly borrowed all the books he could, being a voracious reader, and he took advantage of what the West had to offer. I guess that you could call him a Catholic mystic.

He told stories of living on the family farm where he grew up. At night in bed, he could see the cobras that slithered through the ceiling, over his bed. One day, a tiger came and snatched one of their piglets, and his grandmother chased after the tiger with a stick, beating it, until it let go of the pig, which was unharmed. When I tell Americans those stories, it amazes them. Frank was a very good man, truly doing what he saw as God's work, as a relatively privileged Indian. But again, the cultures clashed. If a new book came out that he wanted to read, he would buy it at the bookstore, read it, and then return it for a refund. He saw nothing wrong with it, and I did not have the heart to tell him that it was unethical in the USA to do that. I am not sure if he ever figured it out.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
2nd September 2015, 19:57
Hi:

Well, that was easy. I updated my desktop computer (my primary one) to Windows 10, and my laptop is in the midst of the process. Part of me is amazed at the progress made since 1984, when my CPA firm bought 3,000 of the first Macintoshes, and I lugged around the computer and the printer to clients. With my audit bag, I was carrying at least 50 pounds around like that, looking like a Sherpa porter.

I bought my desktop back in 2010, when I was making big high-tech bucks, and decided to buy the best machine that I could, so I did not have to update it every few years, which I did ever since I bought my first Windows 95 machine (they lasted, 2, 2, 3, 3, and 5 years, as I recall), after Apple laid an egg with its PowerPC and I was forced to join the evil empire at home. I already used PCs at work, and even bought and maintained our company's, playing with dip switched and jumpers to solve device conflicts, and the rest of that joy. Since that first Windows 95 machine, I always either built my own or had it custom made, and in 2010, I decided to buy all the components and assemble them and install the operating system, and Windows 7 was the first Windows that allowed somebody like me to do that, where I did not have to take it into a computer shop and let the techs fiddle with it. People like me have been one of Microsoft's customers/victims for more than 30 years, and it has definitely been a great way to build character and work on my patience issues. I never had any problems with that machine that I built myself (with all the most expensive components), and it is still nearly state of the art, five years later. With this O/S upgrade, I expect to use it for at least another five, which has been unheard of.

Not sure if I mentioned it Avalon, but Microsoft has been trying to change its bloodthirsty DNA, and when Windows 8 came out, lemon that it was (longtime customers like me were too wary for that, dreading the experience of a new operating system, which meant a new computer) and the only Vista or Windows 8 machines I ever worked on were when naïve relatives bought those machines and asked me to help them make it work), Microsoft quickly knew that it laid another egg, one of Balmer's last acts, and they set about to fix it, but the team that built Windows had that "screw the customer" attitude that Microsoft was legendary for, and when they kept up with that attitude, 13 of the 15 directors (that was my level when I was in high tech) that made Windows 8 and were working on the fix were fired, as one of the early acts of its new CEO.

So, people like me waited, to see what was coming, and there really was no avoiding Windows 10, so I made the plunge with the free upgrade (while I could), and am happy to report that it was easy as I had heard, and so far, everything works. Nice to report. It used to be nightmares that could take weeks, and reinstalling it after it scrambled everything, having hardware failures (and the tape backup did not restored, so I lost data, etc.). I sure appreciate how much easier it is today.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2015, 00:07
Hi:

More post responses, starting with this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=990468&viewfull=1#post990468). Thanks Freeknowledge, that is a thoughtful, provocative post, and I could spend a great deal of time dealing with it, but I'll try to be brief. To me, the speed of transmission of the Epochal breakthrough is not terribly important; what is really important is the event itself, and I think that I deal with the issue pretty well in the essay. I also deal quite a bit with cultural transmission mechanisms, from the cultural learning that monkeys do (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rhesus1), to the human mastery of language (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#language) to the "Internet" effect of cities (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions), to literacy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#writing), and so on. Those are dealt with at length. Heck, I am taking advantage of the greatest communication medium in history to build my choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). I think that the advantages of communication are obvious to all who read my words.

I also think that I deal with manipulative ability very thoroughly in my essay, from the first jaws (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#jaws) to the changes in the human-line hands (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sediba) that enhanced their manipulative ability, and their interaction with energy and intelligence, which led to the first stone tools (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#stonetool1), which in very short order, on the evolutionary scale, led to the rise of humanity, with the control of fire (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1) being the overwhelmingly seminal event. Each Epochal Event was dependent on some humans achieving a level of social organization and technical prowess to tap a new energy source. Once it was achieved, the spread of the practice was assured, wherever it could. Yes, Europe actively prevented the rest of the world from industrializing, because they wanted to enslave people and take their resources, and that dynamic lasts to this day, and along the way, it was understood that there is not enough hydrocarbon energy for all of humanity to industrialize. So those dynamics are certainly baked into the logic of what the USA did to Iran (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#iran) and Iraq (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#attacking), for instance.

What I don’t do is separate communication into one essay, manipulative ability into another, intelligence into another, and energy into another, but I show how they interact, which is the point of the essay. :) Only a comprehensive, interdisciplinary perspective is going to see the big picture, which is why I wrote the essay. I have given some nods to people who want to try to put some of it into smaller, bite-sized pieces, such as this presentation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanityppt.pdf), or my executive summary at the essay's beginning (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#summary). But I am not going to water it down much further, bust themes into separate essays, and the like when the big essay's purpose is to show their connections. I broke the essay into 30 chapters, have chapter summaries, and even some pictures ( :) ), and I have done what I could to make it easier to study, but it won't be easy for anybody, and the people I am looking for are not going to need to have what I have done dumbed down any more. You are invited to write the essays you suggest. It would be good homework for you.

The reason why the speed of the Epochal Events is not terribly important to me is that I think it is obvious that FE would spread like wildfire. It will be history's most transformative technology, and will not need to be advertised, sold, etc. Again, the day after the USA nuked Hiroshima, people began openly speculating about nuclear energy's potential (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#reactions). FE has already been developed into something (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) that the public could immediately use, and safely. Again, the technology is not really the issue. It is all about integrity and sentience. The technology is going to be the easy part. If I got 5,000 people up to speed, making FE happen will be a joke, and Godzilla knows it.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2015, 01:47
Hi:

Briefly, as is obvious, my work covers a lot of territory, and here is what I was reading (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Night_Stalker#Known_victims) just now. I have read it on and off for years. The Lyman Smith murders were huge news in Ventura, and a couple of years later, I lived a couple of blocks from the house where they were murdered. If you read Gary Wean's book (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean), he goes into quite a bit of detail about the background of Smith just before he and his wife were murdered. Smith was a lawyer who had an airline that airlifted dairy cattle to the Shah's Iran (talk about a boondoggle!). When the Shah was overthrown in 1979 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution), Smith quickly went out of business. According to Gary, his silent partners in the venture were some of Ventura County's judges, and they directed the planes to backhaul drugs, without Smith's knowledge, and Smith was going to be the fall guy if they ever got caught. As Smith was going bankrupt, he found out about what had happened. He cut a deal with the judges. If he was made a judge, which in corrupt Ventura County was like a license to print money, he would let bygones be bygones, and recover from the "opportunities" that being a judge in Ventura County afforded. A few days after he "cut the deal" with the judges, he and his wife were bludgeoned to death in their home.

One of the judges had his fingerprints on the doorknob, and he explained it away as just going to Smith's home to see how it was going. Gary made the case that that judge actually went to Smith's house to make sure the deed was done, and probably gloat over it, and Gary recounted a case when another lawyer who got in the way was threatened with Smith's fate to keep him silent. Lots of judges and lawyers who got in the way in Ventura came to untimely ends. Gary's primary suspect in the private plane "accidents" that kept happening to expendable people was arrested during the DeLorean Sting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeLorean#Arrest_and_trial), and the Ventura County judges ensured that he never testified, as he knew too much.

Call me skeptical of the Night Stalker explanation of Smith's death.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2015, 04:43
Hi:

I can't help myself, but want to write a little more about Gary's book. Gary met Dennis's wife (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=954064&viewfull=1#post954064) around the time of the preliminary hearing (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail), the one that changed my life (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces), and Dennis's attorney at the time, the "maverick" attorney in Ventura County, who was not really maverick at all when it came to Dennis (he had been gotten to, it seemed), said that Gary's book was a "Who's Who of Ventura County." When Mr. Big Time Attorney (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bigtime) took the case, just before I testified at the misconduct hearing, I gave him a copy of Gary's book, and he put it out in front of him on the table, in the courtroom, almost shoving it in the prosecution's face, with a big smile on his face. It was almost fun for a while. :)

The Lyman Smith murders were a little piece of Gary's puzzle. Heck, the JFK hit (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean) was just one piece, too. Before I ever met Gary, I already knew that the real versions of some events were what I eventually saw Gary write about. He named names, and I went to school with two of the names' sons, and one was a close friend, and in fact the only person from the first 20 years of my life whom I still have any contact with.

One thing that I learned was that gangsters in high places cultivate do-gooder images, as it is a great cover for their criminal activities. Gary surveilled Mickey Cohen (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#cohen) as part of his job, and once caught him in a meeting with Jewish gangster judges, back in 1947. Cohen's errand boy judge, who was at that meeting, eventually betrayed Cohen and still sits on the federal bench, in the 9th circuit court (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Ninth_Circuit) today, at more than 90 years of age, and he is a noted "liberal" judge. That is the court that threatened to disbar Mr. Big Time Attorney (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#disbar) for daring to file his lawsuit against the Ventura County officials.

The biggest real estate developer in Ventura County made it big in the drug trade, along with the judges there, and he actually built some developments in Seattle, and his reputation was being the most honest developer around. The pinch-hitter (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#pinch) who was sicced on Dennis when the first hatchet lady quit her career (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#betsy), when her conscience finally got to her, when her nose was rubbed in her evil deeds, is a noted "philanthropist" and still works for the Attorney General's office in Washington, which is one reason why I turn down all public speaking invitations in my home state.

Damn, it is big stuff, but it is all swept under the carpet by the Establishment, as usual.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
3rd September 2015, 08:03
Reciprocal Altruism and the Free Software Movement

Free software/Wikipedia and other free(libre) Information and Knowledge resources in the age of the Internet have very weird and less understood aspects. The hardest to understand is the fact that Free Software, Wikipedia welcome free riders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem). So in that sense it is completely altruistic.

However there are 2 streams here people who put their work in the public domain (or something very close to it, lets not quibble), and people who give away their work under Stallman’s legalistic copyleft/sharealike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share-alike) terms. Those terms allow any form of personal and commercial use. The only reciprocity that they impose is that if the the work (and any changes to it) are republished they have to be under the copyleft/sharealike license. From a people standpoint there is no difference between the two. However because of the twist of copyleft it effectively serves as regulation on business who might otherwise prefer to not share.

Does this mean that copyleft/sharealike licensing is reciprocal altruism? I think not, because it does not expect anything back from people who merely use the knowledge. Yet copyleft was important in keeping the herd (of companies) together and not let the software splinter into pieces.

In the FE world people would seem to be more altruistic and loving, but does that mean they are altruistic? This is exactly the same question that can be asked about authors of anti-rival goods. That is an interesting philosophical question to ponder.

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2015, 13:39
Hi:

Briefly, to address my Windows 10 upgrade experience (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995360&viewfull=1#post995360), I turned off Cortana, which is where most call out the privacy and data tracking issues, but I really do not need that kind of PDA help. But I remember hearing the rumors in the early 1990s that the NSA had an office at Microsoft, and the Snowden revelations were no surprise to me or those in my circles.

I have assumed that I have been under constant surveillance since I became Dennis's partner in early 1987, and I think it is a pretty safe assumption, but Godzilla usually just watches and listens. People who think that they can interact with me, anywhere and anytime, and think that their identities are hidden from Godzilla, are fools. That is one reason why no choir member is going to play the "I am anonymous" game. It is senseless, and also reflects a mentality (fear) that is at cross-purposes to my efforts.

Godzilla does not always just listen, as I discovered in that sunny day in early 1988 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#raid), and when he strikes, you just have to try to survive, and I became a fly in his ointment when Mr. Professor and I sprung Dennis from jail. Godzilla has not forgotten about me. The White Hats watch (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white), too, but again, they just watch, but we would hear from them, periodically, and in more ways than I can publicly disclose.

When Mallove was murdered (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland), it capped a very strange week, and I did not blame Brian at all for moving to South America. Also, when that conference ended, I think that we may have been on the receiving end of Godzilla's psychotronic equipment that can scramble your emotional state. I felt it both times, and also in Ventura. My guess is that they turned it on us and hoped that nature would take its course, and Mallove came across as a guy who would be good in a bar fight, and he uttered some racial slur just before he was beaten to death. I think it quite possible that his little life-ending outburst was "helped" by Godzilla.

It is the same stuff that they used to implant cancer on Greer's team (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak), and they messed with Greer in ways so that he was never the same. Those are very real risks of playing this game, but people in the choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) are not going to have to worry about them. They are not going to mess with five thousand people scattered across the world who are "merely" singing.

The naïveté that denies that those activities exist is not healthy, but paranoia is also an unhealthy reaction. The only protection I know of is living in the light.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2015, 15:42
Hi:

On to more post replies, and I'll start with this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=991121&viewfull=1#post991121). OK, the Free Software Movement is behind us for now. :) I am highly sympathetic to anybody from lands that Europeans conquered and enslaved. Freeknowledge rarely heard about the reality of "settling" North America by Europeans while living in the USA, and he is far from alone. I was raised in a mission town, went to an elementary school named after the pious padre (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra), who is up for sainthood (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint) today (like Mother Teresa (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa)), and the only mention I ever saw of the fate of the local natives while growing up was that the last native in the area lived in the riverbed near my home, and died around 1900. That was it, until I read David Stannard's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stannard) American Holocaust in 1992, after getting a glimmer of the reality when reading of Columbus's heroic feat in Howard Zinn's (http://ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm) A People's History of the United States.

Being from the conquered lands, Freeknowledge certainly does not need to read up any more about the genocides (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#genocide) and catastrophes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2) that Europe inflicted on the world. For a Westerner with any integrity, it is required reading, IMO (but personal integrity is very rare in today's world (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn)). Yes, indeed, Polya's estimate (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#polya) on the carnage in India is indeed the only one I ever saw, too, and I have seen him attacked by Winston Churchill's defenders, etc. Estimates like that have to be beaten into oblivion by the imperial social managers.

Yes indeed, when one plays the "protest (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#coerce)" and Left's game (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#coerce), it quickly becomes evident how impotent it all is, and it can do more harm than good (the means become the ends (http://ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist)). In one sense, freeing up the "means of production" that Marx mentioned is really the only solution, and nothing would do it like FE, and there should be no coercion of the elites, but just the combined positive intention (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gcfocus) that Brian O advocated, and is the only path that I really ever advocated. The focus cannot be on the elite. They are not really the root of the problem: we are (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). :)

To this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=991670&viewfull=1#post991670), and then I will have to do chores. In brief, my criterion is very simple. If somebody performed any kind of effort, whether it was physical or mental work, with the intention that they be compensated for their labors, the moral obligation for anybody who benefits from those labors is to compensate the "authors," preferably in the way that they have asked to be compensated. This is also a very close cousin to the simple way to understand mysticism and karma, and Michael (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) said it best, IMO: whenever anybody interferes with somebody's free will in a way that harms them, they have created a karmic ribbon that will have to be burned. Burning it in the same lifetime is ideal, but the "beauty" of our system is that the souls playing the "grow through the rigors of physical reality" game keep coming back until they have balanced those scales. Generally, in our earlier lifetimes, we incur the karma in our youthful egocentrism, and we pay it back in our later lives, and can even reach states that could be called enlightened. :)

If you read an author's work in the way that the author intended, that is the most ethical way to do it. There is also an octave above that, to also realize the circumstances around the author's production, and realize that the author may suffer from various constraints, and that going "above the call of duty" for an author is reaching a higher plane of awareness, and that is always a worthy goal. For instance, I own a few copies of Ralph McGehee's (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm) Deadly Deceits, and offered to buy his 1,000-volume intelligence library from him, when he finally "retired" from his CIABASE activities. All that he sold me were his first issues of LOOT (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot) (to complete my collection), and a couple of books, and he essentially gave the rest to a university, and I think that was a fine fate for his library. I helped out Ralph when I could, and it was an honor to, just like carrying Brian's spears was an honor. I bought 35 copies of Miracle in the Void (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#miracle) and handed them out to friends. But I had a good job at the time (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm), and when I am in those situations, I try to help.

But when I did the research and writing for my 2002 site, I think that most of my research material I got from the King County and University of Washington libraries (I did it by maxing out my credit cards and my wife's labors – people who do what I do often have long-suffering wives, and we can never make it up to them), and there was no other way to obtain such material, anyway. It was long before we had the resources that we have today. I spent a lot of time burrowing through the stacks of antiquarian bookstores, seeking books on my list (such as Carl Sauer's magnificent work (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#carl)). Today, you can order them in seconds at Amazon and similar sites. I had a standing order for years for Zwick's Weapons of Satire (http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Twains-Weapons-Satire-Philippine-American/dp/0815602685/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441290621&sr=8-1&keywords=Mark+Twain%27s+Weapons+of+Satire) (which Uncle Noam mentioned, which was how I found out about it (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#twain)), and after a decade of looking, I was able to buy it on Amazon for about $200, and I see it is "only" $100 today. I traded email with Zwick when I was looking, and he wrote that he was planning to reprint the book (it was up to $300, if you could find a copy, back then), and I traded email with Zwick when he published his second Twain book (http://www.amazon.com/Confronting-Imperialism-Essays-Anti-Imperialist-League/dp/0741444100/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441291059&sr=1-1), a couple of months before he died (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/hartfordcourant/obituary.aspx?pid=102231213). Zwick was one of the good guys, and he is missed.

Getting a book from a library is not violating the author's intent, so is fine on "moral" grounds. Making copies of the book and not somehow contributing to the author is not "moral," no matter what legalistic arguments are made. Dennis and I learned the hard way about laws and their enforcement (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#scam), and one of my favorite Martin Luther King, Jr. quotes was to remind people that everything that Hitler did was legal. Gandhi was a lawyer and decried legalism, which is the sign of a degenerate system. In the USA, the legal system is a huge racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#law), evil from top to bottom.

Walsch's (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#walsch) "God" said it best, I think, in that in societies of highly evolved beings, there are only a few laws, they are simple, and everybody knows them, and I think that it goes without saying that they are not punitive and that punishment is not an aspect of their "enforcement," but it is enlightened far beyond what most people today can imagine. In a world of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), it becomes more comprehensible, which is one reason why I say that legalism and maneuvering, as a path to important change, is hacking at branches, not aiming for the root.

I try to trouble myself as little as possible with laws, and look to their spirit. In poor nations, paying $200 for a book is beyond almost anybody's means, and I favor ways to cheaply get information into their hands. Heck, I have given away all of my writings, which took seven years, full-time, to produce, without compensation, and most of my "spare" time for a quarter-century, but that was my choice. Other authors choose differently, and that is fine. The worthiest authors are not trying to make money from their writings, anyway, but it is a labor of love (or anguish, as they are desperately trying to right humanity's ship), and I put Chomsky, Zinn, Herman, McGehee, Peter Ward and others like them in that class, and none of them minds having their work used in almost any way that anybody wants to. Nevertheless, it is ethical to ask them first. For instance, I asked Ed if I could produce that picture and article in LOOT (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot) (that earliest picture I got from those issues that I bought from Ralph), and he enthusiastically allowed me to, just like Ward enthusiastically allowed me to produce a graphic from his book (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ward).

Back in my early days of writing, I published lengthy quotes of authors, but when I found my own scholarly voice, I stopped doing it. However, I will let this one of Zinn's stand (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#zinn), in his honor, and I will not edit down my quotes of Terrell (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#terrell) and Sandos (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint). They are testaments to my style in the 1990s, are damned fine quotes, and I am honoring those authors. I contacted Sandos more than once, to get his permission, but never heard back, so I suppose that he does not mind. Doing what I did is quite legal, under the Fair Use laws, but again, I do my best to honor the author's intention.

"Morality" is a charged term, and Michael stated that it is a form of terrorism by the dominant class against those who do not play ball. I prefer the idea of ethics. I contacted Heinberg as I published this essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm), and he replied that I was not being unfair to his views, and he wished me the best. The man has integrity, to a degree (his exclamation points (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg), in retrospect, should have told me what a dead-end he was going to be, but I had to try :) ), however far he is stuck in his scarcity-based mindset (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity).

If people benefit from somebody's labors in a way that was not intended, I think that the recipients have an obligation to realize that they are, and try to make the best of their "gift," and should desire to somehow return the benefit to the laborer, if it was a geek coder or Uncle Noam, or at least try to pay it forward. To tell people that they have no right to compensation for their labors is what slaves are told.

As I have written plenty, I am keenly aware, every time I fill my tank with gasoline (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility), every time that I buy produce, and so on, that I am a beneficiary of an inherently evil system, and I do what I can, each day, to change that system, and there is no place better than at the root, which always has been and always will be humanity's energy practices. We are all responsible for the world we live in, and that means that we can all do something about it. That is probably the primary message of my work. But if we are not operating from a loving heart (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), our efforts will be worthless, or worse than worthless. Not easy to do, in a world of scarcity and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming), but nothing worthwhile is going to be easy, which is why I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle).

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
3rd September 2015, 18:19
...In the FE world people would seem to be more altruistic and loving, but does that mean they are altruistic? This is exactly the same question that can be asked about authors of anti-rival goods. That is an interesting philosophical question to ponder.


Forgive me freeknowledge, if this post veers from your intended point. And forgive me Wade (or others) if you think it off-topic. But the altruism of FE is a powerful subject.

One dictionary definition of altruism :

“unselfishly concerned for or devoted to the welfare of others (opposed to egoistic)”

We could debate indefinitely about the extent to which some acts/motivations are more altruistic than others - and the deeper we go, the deeper it may involve getting into the microcosms of individuals (including personal traumas or associations with safety, goodness, joy etc – some of which we may not even be aware act as unconscious triggers to our behaviour.)

For me, the premise remains that if the world is made better for someone else, that can also make it better for me. If FE frees vast numbers of people to be less competitive, more open-minded etc, it means I get to live in and interact with a world of more kindness and benign creativity. It means I can enjoy greater abundance without the guilt (conscious or not) of others losing out for my benefit.

Equally, if I give a starving person the meal I just bought, their smile/relief (etc) can uplift me. If I stroke a lost cat to console it, its purring might soothe me. If I give an anonymous donation to a cause I deem good, I may get to 'enjoy' feeling selfless.

Many people who have children, or infant relatives, have a sense honed for what is good, pure, and worth preserving. They are reminded of an innate 'goodness', and an instinct to preserve it is called to action – whether it relates to the child's personal innocence, or the health of their outer world. Having a child is not inherently selfless, since it can bring a sense of meaning, love, or continuity after death, to someone's life. In that sense, even working for a better future for our own offspring can be argued selfish, since it may better preserve the memory of our goodness.

The late comedian George Carlin claimed that we don't need to save the planet, because it will likely survive regardless of what atrocities we inflict, outliving us all, and that in that sense environmentalism wasn't altruistically about saving the planet, it was about saving our own living environment in the absence of (for most of us) an alternative home. The same can be argued of saving other species, so we can enjoy the variety and ways they contribute to our health, aesthetic pleasure and (crucially) an interconnected ecosystem balance.

It's hard sometimes to encapsulate goodness in a neat guideline. For example, a biblical axiom often quoted in isolation (via numerous variations) says : “In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you” or “whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them.” Although this gets into a grey area if someone enjoys, for example, self-harming, as they could argue that their neighbour could/should enjoy being abused. But on deeper inspection, people who abuse have often been abused themselves, and might rather convince themselves that their tendencies are acceptable, instead of dealing with the sense of loss and/or societal judgement that can fuel a wounded mentality.

Do we define goodness as what is most commonly accepted as good? Does that mean that junk food is better if it proves more popular than organic food? With that example it's easy to understand that its popularity is based on cheapness, availability, and (arguably) the inclusion of addictive ingredients. Delving a little deeper, a pop-culture phenomenon of arguably low-brow content may fill stadiums compared to the presentation of something with more 'refined' content that only attracts enough audience to fill a community centre. In those cultural terms, the evidence of what is 'good' may arguably be in how people's tastes change over generations as they are exposed to a broader range of ideas and experiences, along with the freedom to enjoy them. Some more 'refined' ideas benefit from a person being in less survivalist mode in order to appreciate their value, hence why their pursuit has long been the privilege of moneyed people, and why less wealthy people might associate them with elitism and may even resent their advocacy.

I came across a quote earlier, credited to the politician Winston Churchill : “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” The first thing I thought was, if the average voter lived in an abundant, environmentally friendly FE world, and had been educated to think creatively and believe their life had great value (rather than being primed for life as an obedient worker in a cut-throat economy) that 5 minute conversation might be very different. But in a world of scarcity, a quote like Churchill's can be used flippantly to justify elitism, so we can avoid looking deeper into the root causes of our most divisive differences.

Working towards a system that has balance, creating the most possible good for the most beneficiaries (including the planet, and all her living beings) is arguably the most good.

There's a line in the feature film Lawrence of Arabia, where the character Prince Faisal says to a journalist : “With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me, it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.”

When it comes to efforts that can be argued altruistic, I've often taken the approach that whether it's joyful or not / appreciated or not, it 'needs' to be done like cleaning the dishes - which just makes the kitchen a cleaner, easier, more beautiful place to be in tomorrow. Whether I approve of Faisal's character or not, the dispassionate approach he refers to is often necessary to survive the external and personal tests that come with altruistic endeavours. But the emotional upliftment that comes from truly feeling another's upliftment as closely as if it were our own, can lead to a harmony of emotional resonance which, blissfully, can open the door to heaven on earth.

People content to explore FE, or any other betterment, when it may not benefit them directly, may be going deeper than those determined to feel its benefits in their lifetime. Maybe they feel they'll reap the rewards in a future life, or when they rub shoulders with fellow altruists on the other side (after passing over.) Sometimes when I write here, it lifts me out of a malaise, because the satisfaction from speaking my truth, and the possibility of it resonating with others who are inclined to imagine a more beautiful world, is uplifting in the here and now. It can be both selfless and selfish. It sits between the polarities. In the mid point where contradictions meet. Perhaps, a place where alchemy can occur. Something we could arguably call magic.

Krishna
3rd September 2015, 19:53
Thanks Melinda.
That was the kind of post I was hoping as a response for my philosophical questions.

After reading your response I can confidently say that the Free Software Movement is made of altruists (despite other contradictions in their lives).

Yes, it has rule of share-alike/copyleft (even that would go away in FE epoch). But the current rule of share-alike is no more complex than having grandmothers taking away FE toys from people using it for wrong purposes.

Wade Frazier
4th September 2015, 01:12
Hi:

On a break from chores. Windows 10 is buggier than the reviewers made it seem, but I think I can live with it. My O/S progression in the Wintel world was DOS 3, 5, 6 (my memory is a little fuzzy on all of the versions, but I used DOS machines from 1987 to 1992, and Apple Macintoshes from 1984 to 1986, and had a Mac at home from 1989 to 1995), Windows 3.1, 95, 98, millennium (horrible), 2000 (still the most enjoyable relative user experience of all of them), XP, 7, and now 10. I avoided Vista and 8 like the plague. I even had Microsoft pals tell me to not use Vista.

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=991703&viewfull=1#post991703), I find Stallman's arguments too lawyerly. He is basically arguing against private property and advocating the communist ideal. In a world of scarcity, good luck. Again, if he wants to give away his work, fine (he made money modifying the original, so he only believes in giving away some of this work; I find where he draws the line to be a little arbitrary). Again, my stance in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995616&viewfull=1#post995616) will stand, and I won’t change it. As long as they are not advocating coercion or theft, I am fine, but to say that the thief would never have bought it in the first place is very lawyerly, and I have no use for that kind of logic. It is the related to the arguments that economists trot out, and I don’t have much respect for their profession (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists).

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=992236&viewfull=1#post992236), it is very good work to realize that we are all UP (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#up), and that imperial peoples are blind, largely willfully (http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/), to the awesome price that they inflict on their subjects. That is so that they can live with themselves. Only psychopaths can become truly aware of the inflicted agonies and glory in it, and the various intellectuals sold their souls to provide ideological imperial service, and they generally believed it, similar to how most are willfully blind. Somebody such as Kipling (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kipling) bought the imperial BS hook, line, and sinker, and began to wake up when it cost his son his life (which Kipling eagerly encouraged his son to risk (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kipling)).

Even Hitler believed in his cause, and that the genocide that he planned was justified in light of his racist ideologies and class conflict ideology of people such as Marx. Hitler's Lebensraumpolitik (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#hitler) was only the Promised Land (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#joshua) and Manifest Destiny (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#steal2) ideologies dressed up for the 20th century, along with racist ideology with a scientific veneer, such as eugenics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics), and the work of Henry Ford (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#ford). Soon before he died, Ford watched footage of the aftermath in the death camps, saw what he helped manifest, and he had his greatest stroke (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#The_Dearborn_Independent_and_antisemitism).

It is really a pretty simple ethical issue, and Noam has stated it plenty: we are all most responsible for the predictable consequences of our actions. As an American, I am most responsible for the USA's behavior, not India's, Iraq's, or Russia's. I find today's situation with humans to be no different from what Jesus said, in that we look for the splinters in our neighbor's eye while ignoring the logs in our own.

On education, for the masses, it is indeed a proximal cause, but education may well be the key for what I am doing, but again, not many can handle the curriculum. My "peers" blow a fuse a few pages into my work. Their egos can't handle it. People have to relinquish their egocentric conceits in order to get past their in-group conditioning (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup). Once people see all of humanity, indeed all life on Earth, as their in-group, they are approaching enlightenment (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enemy), and that can only be done with love, in my experience. Fear is constricting and draws those borders of the in-group ever closer. Psychopaths draw that in-group line at where their skin ends, and as anthropologists have stated, if there has truly been any progress during the human journey, it has been people continually expanding their perceived in-group during the Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable).

Before the first Epoch, it was exterminate your neighbors (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coalitionary), if you could, and killing infants was normal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#infanticide1). During the First Epoch, it was likely a similar practice, only relieved when wide-open spaces took off the energy pressure and spreading across Eurasia was an option (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#migrate1). In the beginning of the Second Epoch, those wide-open spaces again beckoned, and again, humans killing humans was likely relatively rare in that brief golden age, but that golden age saw all the world's easy meat (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#humancaused) and all other human species driven to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#climateneanderthal), almost certainly by behaviorally modern humans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap). As humans bred, the easy meat went extinct, and energy became scarce, human-on-human violence reached its apogee (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#violence1), proportionally, with about a third of all men dying violently (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#deathrate) in the late phase of that Epoch.

The beginning of the Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kebaran), once again, began peacefully (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacefulagriculture), and female status rose for the first time in the human line in ten million years. Communities of previously unimaginable size appeared, and people were not trying to kill each other, in those days of relative energy abundance. Those early Third Epoch societies usually grew to become civilizations, and women's status declined once again (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#womenstatus1), but early civilization was peaceful and cities of previously unimaginable size thrived, and people were not trying to kill their neighbors (as the in-group became unimaginably large), until, once again, energy became scarce, and then it was warring city-states in Sumer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare), and the general pattern was repeated wherever civilization appeared. All early civilizations collapsed as they ran out of energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses), and empires rose and fell in the Fertile Crescent for thousands of years, largely to the present day.

The Fourth Epoch began during Europe's conquest of Earth, and England kept enlarging its polity by conquering its neighbors, but Europeans were relatively civilized toward each other. The world's dark-skinned people were treated far differently, even genocidally (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english), and that racist nature of Europe's warfare is seen to this day, as no white people are subjected to the USA's genocidal practices (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading). The USA, like Rome, is a polyglot empire, and in the USA, racism, sexism, bigotry, and other in-group ideologies are under siege, and have largely been driven underground, if not quite extinguished.

All in-group ideologies are born of scarcity, specifically energy scarcity, and when there is plenty of energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#discretionary), times are good, and when it runs out, times get hard, people begin shrinking their in-groups once again, and we see it happening today, as the USA's middle class, for instance, shrinks.

Again, work like mine will not reach the masses (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) and is not intended to, although it is available to anybody with Internet access and who can read English. Every Epochal Event was initiated by a relative or literal handful of people, and I don't see why it will be any different this time. Are there even 5,000 people on Earth who can sing at a level where they can form a choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir)? I think so, but we will find out. What is important to me today is not trying to make my message intelligible to more people, to water it down, to slice it in different ways, to sneak past people's ego mechanisms, and the like. It is to engage in a high-level discussion of the material in my big essay, but nobody on Earth has yet stepped up the plate. That conversation is going to attract the people that I seek, not "marketing" what I have already written. What I have already published is more than adequate for those I seek.

Yes indeed, the rise of the corporation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#corporations) is a Fourth Epoch phenomenon, and corporations will become obsolete in the Fifth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), just like elites will (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear).

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=992654&viewfull=1#post992654), good thinking on the Epochs. Again, tapping the new energy source was the Epochal Event, and all followed from that. Without the sedentary communities that a local and stable energy supply afforded, there would have never been civilization, no professions, no literacy, and the like. A local and stable energy source made it all possible, and about the only one of consequence was initially provided by agriculture. There was actually a brief preview of that phenomenon, when mammoth villages briefly flourished (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gravettian) before the mammoths were driven to extinction. Then we began to see social stratification and elite grave goods. That could not have happened without a local and stable energy supply.

And what happened to the mammoth villages was also a preview of civilization, in that the societies collapsed when the energy ran out, and they reverted to simpler life and lost the skills that they learned when they were briefly sedentary. European "explorers" often happened on the remnants of lost civilizations, and the natives could not even recall the civilization that created the ruins. Within two centuries of the collapse of Mississippian culture, the Cherokee lost virtually all awareness of the culture of their ancestors (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mississippian), which built the mounds.

Without history's greatest energy-using society, by far, the Internet would not exist, and I would not be writing this. :) Only the USA could have invented the Internet, and it was because they rode history's greatest energy wave, which has crested and has been falling since the 1970s (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert). Again, the energy event was first, and the social/economic/political changes came later.

When the group I envision can develop and demonstrate FE, ready for mass production (not some proof of concept prototype (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demonstrate)), without getting snuffed out by the organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), the hard part will be over, but it won't be easy. The hard part is not technology or mass communication, but finding the people with enough personal integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) who have been awakened (those are closely related traits) and have enough mental horsepower to do the work. That dwarfs all else, and if I can get that choir going, those I seek will recognize the tune, and have been pining for it their entire lives. When that FE device, ready for mass production is given away to the world, there will not need to be any mass education or publicity, and those will be distant secondary issues. They will be a result of the event, not a cause. First, the 5,000-7,000 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), then the 100,000 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers), and then the world. That is not the only way that it has to happen, but it is the only way that I am interested in pursuing, and I know it won't hurt. I have witnessed what has failed all too many times (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level6), and I barely survived the experiences.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
4th September 2015, 06:11
Thanks Melinda.
That was the kind of post I was hoping as a response for my philosophical questions.

After reading your response I can confidently say that the Free Software Movement is made of altruists (despite other contradictions in their lives).

Yes, it has rule of share-alike/copyleft (even that would go away in FE epoch). But the current rule of share-alike is no more complex than having grandmothers taking away FE toys from people using it for wrong purposes.

Hi freeknowledge,

My point with that post was really to question how purely altruistic any of us can claim to be.

If we live by an understanding that we are all aspects of a greater whole, consciousness experiencing itself as individuals, God's children (or any number of variations on the same theme) then service to others is ultimately service to self. We could risk disappearing into semantics over it, which is not my intention. Clearly, some behaviours are more selfish and destructive than others, and some are more considerate.

I agree that we can be driven by altruism in some ways, whilst being strained by our flaws in others. I don't know any individuals in the free software movement. Some of my experiences in humanitarian work revealed to me that some of the individuals working 'selflessly' for others had huge egos, similar to those you might witness in the entertainment or banking industries. But working for the good of the oppressed may have been a convenient outlet for them to closely engage those they claimed to dislike, and the pressures and virtues associated with the endeavour provided an excuse for disrespectful behaviour towards those even closer to them.

Working in the trenches of pioneering efforts, and/or working at the front-line of projects that take an active role in engaging some of the world's most destructive forces, is obviously not easy. And those who prefer not to be battle-tested can often reap the rewards of a quieter, less testing life with benefits enabled by people who did struggle to achieve them for others, and may grieve for some of the integrity they sacrificed along the way.

In that sense, in relation to this thread, I can see why Wade advocates the lamb's path. Because engaging the system on its own (corrupted) terms has intense pitfalls. But standing back to envision something new, and building the strength of subtle frequencies through spiritual sentience and comprehensive understanding, is a different approach.

As a last note (from me) on the copyright issue, there does seem to be a slippery area with some anti-copyright writers, in advocating freedom of information, along with freedom from legal and corporate tyranny, whilst suggesting that artists (who are hoped to be independent, purist or provocative voices within culture) get their funding from centralised government or corporate sponsors (both of which are often corrupt.) Funding through direct purchase may be more democratic in that sense. No-one gets increasingly taxed for art they don't like, and there's less need to pollute art and the audience mind with advertising. To dismiss all corporate-owned publishers (including the good they can do) is also to miss the legitimate reasons why many creators enlist their help with development/promotion in the first place, despite their flaws. As more creators attempt self-publishing, copyright has more value to them, rather than the larger companies they used to be confined to. But solutions that don't address the energy root of the problem (spiritually and physically) are bound to come up against those problems/contradictions in attempting to make the best of a rigged system.

That's my humble understanding of it.

On your last point, I can see the sense in laying down rules to a degree, as in software developers giving away goods on the condition that future improvements by others are also shared freely, to honour that principal and perpetuate growth. I'd agree that grannies guarding the FE goods is no more complex a principal. i.e. You can have this amazing gift, but only if you honour it in the spirit in which it's given, for the greater good of all. It will truly be something to see us get to a point where the benefit of living by that principal is self-evident. But we may need generations of rewiring, through experiencing abundance, before we get there as a planetary culture.

It's still uplifting to me, just imagining and remembering how it really is possible.

Wade Frazier
4th September 2015, 15:53
Hi:

On to more posts, starting with this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=992882&viewfull=1#post992882). Yes, the world is getting wired up, which is why communication will not be a big deal the day that FE comes out, or ETs land on the White House lawn. :) Yes, so-called "education" today is all Third and Fourth Epoch, and around 95% of the people in the West are scientifically illiterate, and those that are scientifically literate are also brainwashed, but in different, subtler ways (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#orthodox).

In a world of scarcity, information is not used to educate and enlighten so much as it is used to control people. That is one of Noam's primary themes, which is primarily around political indoctrination, but it extends to economically (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), scientifically, and in all ways in which sentient people could upset the elite applecart. The danger is thinking that any group is somehow above the fray. That conceit is rife in mainstream science, bankers present themselves as some arcane priesthood with the secrets of the universe in hand, and so on. It is all a game, to gain a full belly and power over others. With FE and abundance, the motivation for those games simply disappears.

All of this intellectual property and "free" debate is meaningless in the Fifth Epoch, as is all of today's politics, a great deal of mainstream science and technology (on most important issues, science has been turned upside down, been classified, made proprietary, the good stuff sits in Godzilla's Golden Hoard (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), etc.), all ideas of economic exchange (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), most of today's social constructs, cities (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cities), politics, nations, races (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nations), and ethnic groups – it all becomes obsolete, and most of it very quickly. Cars will be seen as about as "advanced" as the oxcart. The point of the choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) is for people to go there, at least in their heads, develop a comprehensive awareness, and understand how the world really works, not the indoctrinated version of it.

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993150&viewfull=1#post993150), culture plays a role, but I'll agree that there are plenty of speculations about it (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993150&viewfull=1#post993150). Culture is definitely conditioned by economic circumstances. The only reason why Japan was not conquered with the rest of humanity was that it was an insular island nation that knew the empire game and kept out the Europeans (China played a similar game, while it could), and then when the USA invaded Japan, it did not want to become like India and the Philippines, so it rapidly industrialized (and soon developed a "Manifest Destiny" ideology toward China, being as resource poor as Japan was, and invaded China, Manchuria in particular). Those Asian Tigers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers) were all imperial outposts of Fourth Epoch nations, with Singapore and Hong Kong being British colonies, and South Korea and Taiwan are still quasi-colonies of the USA, in its neocolonial style, which benefitted from the USA's attempt to thwart communism. Nearby nations that did not play ball, such as Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, and the like either had their governments overthrown or were bombed into oblivion. Ralph helped keep Thailand in the capitalistic fold (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#synopsis), to eventually wake up to the evil that he was part of (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#saigon). All nations of that region largely had their fates determined by the USA and the UK. Stuff like education and culture were ancillary, although they had their effects. Again, in the Fifth Epoch, that all becomes meaningless.

On this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993473&viewfull=1#post993473), yes, the entire idea of patenting ideas, inventions, and the like is born of scarcity, and will become meaningless in the Fifth Epoch. But again, it is one thing to say that institutions should become obsolete, and another one to steal from people who did not intend to be stolen from. I get the idea of starving peasants and the elite in their enclaves, owning everything, including ideas, but the means will become the ends. Nobody needs to "steal" anything to make the Fifth Epoch happen, and my plan is to give away (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers) history's most lucrative (http://ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion) and transformative technology, which will make all ideas of property, ideologies, "exclusionary agreements," and the like seem like the bickering of children in their terrible twosies. Again, to get too deeply into the ideology of "free" anything, property rights, and the like is to get mired in scarcity, and my work is about helping people think in terms of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance).

To this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993505&viewfull=1#post993505), all ethics, politics, social organization, ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), and the like have always been subservient to economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics). That is what my Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) are all about. :) Humans are simply playing the game that all life has, since the very beginning, which is energy-centric. After the energy issue (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyevents), everything else is noise. Energy and consciousness (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness) are all that exists in our universe, and my big essay is largely about their interplay.

To "educate" people from poor nations into Fourth Epoch ideas is a mixed bag, with that clash of cultures idea (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995278&viewfull=1#post995278) that I recently mentioned. If they don't live in a Fourth Epoch political-economy, it is not easy to make their ideas work or even comprehend the Fifth Epoch. Again, I am not interested in educating the world's poor, as far as helping make FE happen. They are all welcome to read my work, but they aren't going to help much, if at all. Just like fat Americans watching their favorite TV show, with their inebriants in hand, are not going to help. Dennis chased after them, and I saw how that worked out. For what I am doing, they are going to be needles in haystacks, either people living in industrial nations or highly privileged people from poor ones, but I really have not landed one of those into the choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) yet. I noticed that they drag too much of the baggage of their poor nations around with them.

If I had not been raised in history's richest nation as a member of history's most privileged demographic group (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar1), who came of age (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#journeys) just as the USA began to run out of energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert), I would very likely not have taken my journey. And this Internet that I write on would not exist but for the affluence of my nation (and maybe with some ET help). I accept that my position is in large measure an "accident" of my birth, but I was put here for a reason, and like my fellow travelers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), I accept that I am here on special assignment, to help humanity turn the corner. Without that sense of purpose, I certainly would not have sacrificed my life like I did (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it), or created the body of work that comprises my website.

To Melinda's wonderful post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993526&viewfull=1#post993526), amen. For somebody who is not scientifically trained, Melinda gets FE's potential like few others that I have encountered. Put an end to scarcity, and everything changes, and radically. On Melinda's Afghanistan story, Afghanistan is one of many nations in that part of the world that were modernizing, but the USA destroyed them (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#brzezinski) in the name of energy and empire. Iran had a functioning republic, but the USA overthrew their government (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#iran) in the name of oil, putting a dictatorship on the throne, with torture chambers and the rest of the accoutrements that the USA is so well-known for (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#central). Iraq was the most secular and progressive Arab nation, where women had high standing, holding many important government positions. Any Arab in the world could get a free college education in Iraq. Look at it today (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), after we "liberated" them.

To this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993603&viewfull=1#post993603), thanks heyokah. I rarely watch videos, and half-deaf Wade listening to somebody in accented English is not easy, but with the closed captions, I got the gist of it. Nice to hear talk like that. All complex systems, from complex life (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mitochondria) to ecosystems (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ecosystem) to civilizations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses) can only be complex if they have the energy to power their complexity. If I could reach Harald Kautz Vella, I would. I have yet to see somebody like him really groove to my work, but one might, someday.

To this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=993693&viewfull=1#post993693), Melinda is always thoughtful. The bottom line is that in a world of scarcity, all "solutions" are going to be makeshift and have their downsides, as there is not enough to go around and everybody tries to get theirs. This is the insidious aspect of scarcity that almost everybody unthinkingly accepts like the air they breathe, which is why FE and abundance rocks their world so completely that their initial reactions are denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), and most will then run away as fast as possible, as all they can see is the end of the world as they know it. With those kinds of universal reactions, even from the father of the Free Software Movement (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), Godzilla rarely needs to roll out of bed.

To SL's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=994948&viewfull=1#post994948), yes, the poor always suffer the most in natural disasters, as they have the fewest resources to cope with it, including the infrastructure of their daily lives. Make FE happen, and all of those issues literally vanish. Heck, there won't even be the chance for any more bolide events, as humanity domesticates the solar system (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#asteroidmining1).

To Freeknowledge's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995526&viewfull=1#post995526), he had me put in a Stallman-like copyleft license on my site (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), and I did not mind (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/). I suppose that you could call me a Free Software fellow traveler, in that I have given my work away, and the only restriction that I ask is that people don’t call my work theirs, try to sell it, etc. I don’t want something that was freely given away to become part of somebody's money-making scheme, and it will also damage what I am attempting. As I have written, I have been plagiarized and impersonated on the Internet, by professionals, of all things, and one reason why I put up chapter drafts of my big essay on this thread as I wrote them was so that somebody could not plagiarize me and say that I had plagiarized them. It was initially bizarre to be accused of plagiarism because somebody plagiarized me, even though it was an easily proven plagiarism. It is a jungle out there! :) So it is, in a world of scarcity.

To Freeknowledge's philosophical question of altruism and economics, which has been a continuing theme of his, giving away history's most lucrative technology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers) will be the greatest act of altruism in the human journey, and will implode scarcity-based ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) from the inside. They will simply become obsolete in a world of abundance. Nobody will need to argue against them, coerce people to give them up, and the like. People will happily put them aside, just like people stopped living in caves when something better came along. To people's self-interest, I happily admit that I want to live in a world like this (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), or this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), and FE will make it happen. Indeed, nothing else can (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity).

Melinda picked up the ball, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995654&viewfull=1#post995654), and all I will say is that love is not something that the head has an easy time wrapping itself around, especially in a world of scarcity and fear. But love is the power of Creation, and a loving approach is the only hope we have (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest) of making FE happen. Intellectuals have a very hard time understanding (http://ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#jesus), and virtually all of the leading Left voices have advocated violence (http://ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#left) and coercion (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#coerce) at one time or another, going back to Marx, which shows that they do not yet understand, stuck in their Young Warrior delusions (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors). The concepts are not too difficult (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving), but those stuck in their heads will not understand the heart. I have seen the concept of other-serving described as service to self via service to others, and I suppose that is a good way to see it, but it really goes beyond those notions, IMO. The message of the Infinite Spirit (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#nature) is that we are all one, and other-servers, in a very real sense, see others as themselves, to a great degree.

I have witnessed incredible demonstrations of the power of love, and none more spectacular than when I sacrificed my life to save Dennis's (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it), and the biggest miracle I ever witnessed soon happened, which we all clearly understood was a case of divine intervention. It cost Mr. Professor and I our lives, and I was not happy about what it ended up costing Mr. Professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey), but that is how it works on our benighted planet, where the prophets and saints lose their lives at the hands of the elites and the mobs that they effortlessly manipulate (Dostoevsky's Parable of the Grand Inquisitor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Inquisitor) is an appropriate illustration). I don't believe in martyrdom, and plan to avoid the hero-martyr's fate, which befell too many of my fellow travelers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), even for those who survived for a time.

To Freeknowledge's latest (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995690&viewfull=1#post995690), if indeed the Free Software Movement has a higher altruism ratio than other groups, Open Letter 2.0 is on its way, and we will see if I can reach any more of them. I am going to resist writing too much in their language and conceptual framework, but see how many of them can understand mine. It should not be too much of a cognitive leap for them, like it would be for most others. Again, if Stallman was not home (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130)….

To Melinda's latest (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995832&viewfull=1#post995832) (and I am now caught up with the posts! :) ), another big amen. Yes indeed, doing "good work" can present challenges to people's egos, and in a world of scarcity, keeping a pure motivation is very difficult, but easier to do in nations with large energy surpluses (industrialized nations). Heck, Mother Teresa was a phony (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa), as was Padre Serra (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra) (and both are up for sainthood (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint)), the Peace Corps (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#peace) and missionaries are "soft" tools of empire, etc.

Yes, indeed, trying to bring abundance through our system of scarcity is so hard that I consider it well-nigh impossible. Dennis made the most heroic attempts that I have seen or heard of (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), and if he could not make a dent, I don’t know who could. Yes, engaging the system like that is extremely perilous, and Dennis has the cleanest hands, by far, of anybody that I know who tried his route, and that is a big reason why people lie about him like they do (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel), even his "allies (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel)."

I am now caught up on this thread. This may become quite a problem for me, as I resume my career, and I am not sure what I can do about it. I may have to focus on my choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/forum.php) activities to the detriment of my other public work. We will see how it goes.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
4th September 2015, 19:13
Hi:

Between chores, and anecdote time. I am too lazy this morning to look it up, and the books are in my office as I write this ( :) ), but in one of Jared Diamond's books, he mentioned encountering the greatest writer in a nation that he visited. I think it was in the South Pacific or an island off of Southeast Asia. Diamond knew the man, who was world-famous, and Diamond happened to be walking near that man's home. The writer was out in the fields, tending his crops, and he greeted Diamond. Diamond's point was that in poor nations, even their greatest writers have to play peasant, as there is no energy surplus to sustain their writing efforts. I think it was in Hall's and Klitgaard (http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Wealth-Nations-Understanding-Biophysical/dp/1441993975)'s book that there was a graphic, which looked similar to Maslow's hierarchy of needs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs), but was an energy surplus pyramid, and at the bottom was survival – having a full belly and a roof over one's head – and above it were levels of civilization, if you will, and at the top was stuff like the arts, literature, science, etc., which could really only exist in societies with large energy surpluses.

Only after the basics are taken care of can societies indulge themselves by supporting artists, programmers, scientists, etc. Only in affluent societies can concepts like free software even exist. The high tech revolution began in history's richest and most powerful nation, and that is normal. The Industrial Revolution began in a small group of nations that were riding a low-energy transportation lane (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sailboat2), which only they had the ability to exploit, to world conquest, and England's rise to world dominance had its neighbors to thank (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sussex).

If I did not have to make a living (and make FE happen! :) ), I would have liked to have been an art historian, and maybe at least partly because of my two months spent in Europe when I was 16 (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe), when I had my cultural awakening, just before my mystical awakening. My favorite artistic periods are the Renaissance and Belle Époque, for painting, and the Baroque, Classical, and Romantic periods in music, as well as the rock-and-roll revolution, and I grew up a movie junkie. Those periods of great art were all enabled by the relative affluence of the times. The Renaissance began just after Europe was moved back from its Malthusian brink by the catastrophes of the 1300s (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#famines), and the energy surplus of Europe's watermills were instrumental in holding Europe together. The Belle Époque (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#belle) happened at the peak of Europe's global domination, and during the early days of Industrial Revolution, phase 2 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal45). The Baroque, Classical, and Romantic periods were all due to the ascent of Europe, and the imperial surplus that could support artists such as Mozart. The rock-and-roll revolution was a product of the postwar boom (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar), which is humanity's most affluent period. And the movie industry has long been dominated by Hollywood, the cultural capital of history's richest and most powerful nation.

All of the ancient world's great feats of art and architecture were created during the energy peaks of ancient civilizations, from Sumer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sumer) onward. The pyramid-building orgy in Egypt peaked with the Old Kingdom (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#egyptold), when the pharaohs were seen as divine beings.

Heck, here in Seattle, I saw the high-tech boom, version 1 and 2, which we are likely near the end of, and artists thrive in those environments, with their nouveau riche patrons. Today, art is selling for ridiculous amounts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#List_of_highest_prices_paid), with all the easy money being printed up in affluent nations. It will all come crashing down, and soon (http://ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#coming) (notice how I published that a couple of months before oil began its collapse, and it is all far from over), but for the moment, the inane amounts being paid for art is a sign of the times.

My point is that only with large energy surpluses can people be freed from the toil of subsistence and engage in mental work (programming, science, accountants like me), artistic work, etc. If we turn the corner into the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), artists won't need patrons, and they will create because it fulfils their souls, not because they need to eat, and we will all benefit from it.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th September 2015, 15:27
Hi:

A few odds and ends…

Last night, I read the dinosaur chapter (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dinosaurs1) of my big essay, and I fixed a couple of links. Links come and go on the Internet, even at Wikipedia, and I plan to annually update my site's links, and especially my big essay's. I am the author of that essay, and the two hours that I spent reading that dinosaur chapter overwhelmed even me. A lot there, but my essay needed to be full of meat, not light stuff, in order for my readers to achieve what I need them to, if they are going to be useful for my choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) effort. But, it is not going to really sink in, on a comprehensive basis, for most that I seek, until people participate in lively discussions of the material. That has yet to happen.

In the past week, I have been reading Charles Mann's 1493, on the consequences of Europe's conquest of the world. I used his 1491 in my American Empire essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before), and those two books obviously represent his life's work (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_C._Mann), and what a worthy life's work it has been. He published 1493 at about the same age that I was when I wrote my big essay, and I think that it takes a lifetime to be able to write stuff like that (and do it before old age sets in! :) ). When I publish the next version of my big essay, 1493 will be among the materials that I use to update it. I already knew the gist (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first) of 1493, but Mann provided a lot of analysis and color around various events, such as what the Columbian Exchange (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_Exchange) meant for China. The primary effects, at least for humans, of the Columbian Exchange were Europeans bringing disease to the previously isolated natives of the Western Hemisphere (and Australia), and native foods transformed African and Eurasian diets and helped lead to a population explosion. Maize, potatoes, sweet potatoes, and manioc became staples from north to south, from east to west, in Eurasia and Africa, and in China, maize and sweet potatoes, in particular, allowed marginal Chinese lands to be exploited. China has been an ecological disaster for millennia, due to deforestation and agricultural practices, but the introduction of New World foods allowed the Chinese to farm highly marginal lands. I just read this essay (https://orionmagazine.org/article/state-of-the-species/) by Mann. Good stuff. The implications are obvious: either humanity becomes a truly sentient species, or it is going to be Game Over, and soon. That is what my work is all about.

I do not often remember my dreams, but last night I had vivid ones that were with me when I awoke, and I went back to sleep and continued them. It was like I was in a waking dream, and the theme was familiar. I was trying to get ex- and current American presidents interested in FE. I recall speaking to Bill Clinton in particular. What a waste of time, even in my dreams! :) Every president since Reagan knew Dennis by name (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull), and Bush the Second's energy advisor was one of Dennis's fans, but it did not matter, as Dennis was still run out of the USA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&highlight=wirec#post694872). I am not sure if a dream like that counts as a nightmare, but it kind of felt like one, in the end.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th September 2015, 15:58
Hi:

Briefly, I look at traffic to my site each month, to see what people are writing about my work, to see if there are potential choir members among them (and sometimes there are), and this time of year, when school begins, my American Empire (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm) and Columbus (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm) essays become the most popular on my site, as they are used in college, high school (http://scullyhistory.weebly.com/period-1-1491---1607.html), and even middle school classes. Those two essays pushed my big essay to a distant third so far this month. In July, the Columbus essay was in fourth place, but in September it is number one with a bullet, and that trend generally lasts through October. I have seen it used by professors, where it is the only essay on the Internet that they link to (http://www.socialstudies.esmartweb.com/HTMLbibs/Columbusbib.htm), and last year I heard from an activist who goes on Fox News and debates why we have Columbus Day (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#why), and my essay seems to be about the only scholarly Columbus essay on the Internet.

When I heard from that world authority (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#paleo) on the first half of my big essay last year, I got the sense that there is nothing like my big essay on the Internet. The potential of the Internet has barely begun to be tapped, which is why I am doing what I am.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
6th September 2015, 03:06
To "educate" people from poor nations into Fourth Epoch ideas is a mixed bag, with that clash of cultures idea (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995278&viewfull=1#post995278) that I recently mentioned.

(he made money modifying the original, so he only believes in giving away some of this work; I find where he draws the line to be a little arbitrary)

To Freeknowledge's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995526&viewfull=1#post995526), he had me put in a Stallman-like copyleft license on my site (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), and I did not mind (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/).

I suppose that you could call me a Free Software fellow traveler

To Freeknowledge's latest (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=995690&viewfull=1#post995690), if indeed the Free Software Movement has a higher altruism ratio than other groups


If I was not clear, I am not asking you to do anything about education, when I write about it I am writing about my understanding of the role of education in the world. I find very little difference in terms of attitude/culture in the younger generations between americans and indians. Which is why you see Indians without Bindi (red dot) in Seattle, nuclear families are the norm in India in my social class, in the US they are more constrained because they don't have purchasing power in USD and have to depend on sons/daughters.

Where did you get the idea that Stallman gives away some of his work? As far as I know he gives away all of it.

The license CC-BY-NC is not a copyleft license, it does not have a SA (share-alike) clause and it also is not a free culture work (http://creativecommons.org/freeworks) because of the non-commercial clause. I found a license that reflects your intent and asked you to use it as a signal to the free software/culture/knowledge folks that you are part of their movements. You are a free culture fellow traveler for sure, it is only the money making part that you differ from them. Stallman allows anybody to make money on any of his works be it software or writings while you don't. This is where the copyleft/share-alike comes in. If the publisher is forced to share-alike there is not much money in it and that limits the damage from money-making. You could consider a copyleft/share-alike license CC-BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) for your website, verbatim copies won't make money because of competition from your website. Derivatives won't make much money because once the first copy is sold (or otherwise made public) it can't be restricted anymore.

Like I was saying open source and free software are the same thing. Free Software people are in effect telling the world that they thought about ethics and care about them. (I am not denigrating open source folks, just saying that you will find comparatively lesser number of altruists among people who self-identify as open source, they are also less likely to have thought about ethics of sharing and restrictions on sharing.) Whether you will find anyone home is an open question, yes they understand abundance, but they are engineers and most likely to be level 3's. If you want to contact them you can start with Debian leaders (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-leaders.en.html)

Wade Frazier
6th September 2015, 06:47
Hi:

Freeknowledge, in the essay that you directed me to (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.en.html), Stallman wrote that he gave away free software, and then made a living by customizing it for customers, until he was given enough money that he did not have to do that anymore. That is what I was referring to. Believe me, this is all very familiar territory to people in the FE field, particularly inventors. I have been asked to try to get inventors to give away their FE ideas/technology, and have them make money consulting on its implementation. I have seen and heard it all. Again, somebody like Stallman could only afford to give his work away when he was being showered with money in other ways. Again the issues that the Free Software Movement faces are very familiar to me. We went after FE as a business, as a non-profit, with volunteers, and so on. Dennis put the best heating system in the world (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) on people's homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), which was the most brilliant thing that I saw him do.

The parallels between Bill Gates and John Rockefeller (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rockefeller1) are many and important, but the software industry is still young and innocent. Gates did not offer Stallman a billion dollars to go away (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer), and then try to kill him (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail) when the bribe was rejected. That shows the vast gulf between what Dennis was taking on and what Stallman was, and shows how radically different FE is from Free Software, in important ways, even though they also have a lot in common.

The FE issue is infinitely larger than the Free Software issue, but there were enough similarities that I think that members of the Free Software Movement can more easily understand the FE issue. That was really the basis of my interest in the Free Software Movement in the first place, but when I saw how stuck Stallman was, I stopped trying, and when I recently heard that he is openly hostile to the idea of FE today, I decided to go public with it (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130). I did not do it to pick on Stallman, but to just use him as one more example of the problems that FE faces. In his way, he was no different from Lester Brown, Amory Lovins (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), Richard Heinberg (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm), etc. – all a bunch of Level 3s (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3). I don't even bother with Level 3s anymore. Once they start spouting the "laws of physics" and "organized suppression is a conspiracy theory" drivel, I am finished with them. Been there, done that, too many times. Level 3s are the most hostile and entrenched against the idea of FE, like cult members are to anything outside of their ideological window. A Level 3's window is more open in ways, but shut tighter than anybody else's in others.

What I am attempting is not going to work if anybody is trying to make a living doing it, and people trying to make money off of my writings are risking themselves in ways that they cannot begin to comprehend, so I will not make it OK that people do that. If they do, I will ask them to stop. I am not going to get legalistic about it, but I will make my position clear. Again, FE is like The One Ring, and people can go literally insane when they are around even the idea of it for long. I am writing from rueful experience. I am not going to be responsible for any more wrecked and prematurely ended lives, and will do my best to keep naïve newbies away from the suicidal stuff, and self-interest and FE are a deadly combination.

The young in all nations have more similarities than the adults will, which is why Fuller saw that the youth more readily relinquished their in-group ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#college) and thought in global terms. My target audience is likely going to be young adults, whose awareness has not yet ossified into their ideological straightjackets. Will many come from Third Epoch nations? I doubt it, but they are welcome to try. Yes, familial relationships are conditioned by the economic reality, always.

Your understanding of the role of education in societies going from the Third (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) to Fourth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) Epoch is fine, and I want to make it clear that I am trying to help educate people to think in Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) terms, as a way to help make it happen. Once it does, then people are going to begin thinking in Fifth Epoch terms pretty quickly, but not before then (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink), other than the needles (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle). I am constantly being approached to make my work into a book, a movie, to try some mass media approach, and other ways to water it down and reach the masses. I am not interested in those approaches, and those who advocate those avenues do not yet understand what I am attempting or what I am facing. Godzilla is watching, make no mistake, no matter how much in denial the naïve are. I am being highly specific with my approach, developed from a lifetime of life-wrecking trial and error. If people follow my approach, they can be helpful and can stay out of trouble. There are many ways to crash and burn (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) in this milieu.

Developing a Fifth Epoch perspective is really what the choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) is all about. People like Stallman are stuck in the Fourth Epoch, as he subscribes to the Fourth Epoch religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle). He can't help me, and make no mistake, I really have only one goal: helping manifest the biggest event in the human journey, and the biggest that humanity will ever have. That is enough to have on my plate, and for those I seek, they will need to keep a laser focus on the goal, and developing a comprehensive perspective will help attain and maintain it. That is what my big essay is all about. It is a textbook to help attain a comprehensive perspective, which will have energy and consciousness (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness) as the focus, which in one way is saying that the focus is on the entire universe. :) But just focusing on getting humanity over the hump (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sixth) is plenty for now. If we don't solve the energy issue, and pronto, the rest simply will not matter.

Back to bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
6th September 2015, 15:03
Hi:

OK, back to vaccinations, finally. I guess that the bottom line is that vaccination has not really had a fair hearing, nor have the alternatives to it. A section of my site (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#economic) is devoted to racketeering. The pattern is similar in all of them, which is:


The racket always works by enticing or forcing the masses to buy/use a "product" or "service";
The benefits are either illusory, dubious, or greatly exaggerated;
The damage is minimized, covered up, or even promoted as a great benefit;
The theory and data are greatly manipulated by the vested interests and often turned upside down, in surreal fashion;
The masses unthinkingly submit to the conditioning and become "customers," patients, victims (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom), etc.;
Those who resist the conditioning are dealt with, in an array of enticements and punitive tactics, which can go as far as prison and murder (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#deadinventors), depending on the racket;
The rackets largely work because people believe in them;
Almost nobody has the integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) or courage to question their conditioning, as there are enticements for playing along and punitive consequences for those who don't;
There is often a spiritual dimension to the issue, with dark pathers (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) creating and maintaining the rackets as way to wealth and power, light pathers often become martyrs for standing up to the rackets, and the masses simply do not care as they shuffle along to the dark pathers' herd management. Witnessing that dynamic is what causes people such as Brian O to wonder if humanity is truly a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience).


To me, vaccination rests on a shaky foundation, and that foundation is the subcellular milieu. Before Pasteur's germ theory of disease was even formed, research was pointing to a different paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm), and the idea that Pasteur plagiarized that predecessor in his quest for wealth and fame (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pasteur) is richly received by a little study. If the story ended there, it would be cause enough to question the entire foundation of vaccinations, but in the first half of the 20th century, two scientists that I am aware of developed microscopes with resolutions considered "impossible" by orthodox optical theory, but the proof is in looking through the lenses of their microscopes, which orthodoxy has refused to do since before I was born, similar to how the Wright brothers were initially received (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wright), but the denial regarding those microscopes is far more pronounced. Surviving micrographs exist (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife) from the first one, which was openly acknowledged as the world's most powerful microscope when it was invented, as electron microscopes had yet to be invented, and the laboratory of the microscope's inventor was a scientific Mecca before the medical racketeers wiped it out. The second microscope still exists (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens) and its inventor is still around, after being driven out of his home nation and nearly going to prison in the nation where he found refuge. Both scientists independently confirmed the pleomorphic findings of Pasteur's predecessor, which points to a very different paradigm of health and disease in the subcellular milieu.

That original scientist's work drew radically different conclusions from Pasteur's, and vaccination was questioned from the beginning, based on those conclusions. Not only that, but the data on vaccination's safety and effectiveness is very open to challenge. I would not call myself an expert by any means, but I have looked into the issue in some depth for a quarter century, on and off.

Not only was Pasteur a shameless self-promoter, but the man who led the wiping out of the man who developed that first "impossible" microscope was arguably the greatest quack of the 20th century, a man who was the face of Western medicine, but never practiced medicine a day in his life, failed anatomy in medical school (a highly dubious school to begin with), and whose claim to fame was promoting the health benefits of cigarettes (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#cigarettes) in the pages of the Journal of the American Medical Association, as he was its editor, and his greatest "achievement" was designing the "research" to promote an asbestos cigarette filter (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lorillard)! You could not make this up if you tried. The same man led the "War on Quacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#quacks)," which is like George Bush the Second leading the murder of innocent millions (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading) in the "War on Terror (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc)," in true dark pather style, just like Orwell predicted (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell).

If you look into fluoridation, you find the same dynamics (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm). The same for heart disease (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons), and on and on. The greatest medical racket of all is in cancer treatment (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket). It is all evil, from top to bottom, and dark pathers are at the helm. What I found out the hard way in the energy racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting) made it very easy to understand the medical racket, and I bore the brunt of the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience), too.

With that overview, I will make some posts that get into the details and data, and I will make the case that it is far from proven that vaccinations are safe and effective, get any credit at all for vanquishing disease, and also show how the alternative paradigms have never been given a fair hearing, as vaccination became a racket in Pasteur's day, and it has only gotten worse since then.

Best,

Wade

Fiberglut
6th September 2015, 16:34
Wade, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your tireless efforts to raise the consciousness of humanity. So many of us talk the talk, but you have actually taken physical action and work on a daily basis to do just that. Not only do you work tirelessly, but you offer insight and awareness that cannot be found elsewhere. A simple thank you is insufficient praise but it is all that I have to offer at the moment. There are very few people on this planet who can say that their work is paradigm shifting. You are the exception to the rule. I am truly humbled by your efforts.

Fiberglut
6th September 2015, 17:11
Wade, having just finished your essay on Mother Theresa I must wonder aloud, is everything promulgated by the MSM a lie? It seems that the true saints of the world are the victims of suppression, imprisonment, torture and death while those labeled as saints are nothing more than self promoting psychopath's who push the agenda of the elite to a large extent. After all, the elite are largely Luciferian, and the world they encourage us to self create is nothing more. Perhaps theses statements are too harsh and overreaching to be considered doctrine, but I do think there is more than a hint of truth in such a message.

Wade Frazier
6th September 2015, 19:56
Hi:

Thanks for the kind words, Fiberglut. Ah, some would call me crazy, and maybe they are right. :)

Seriously, if Bill and friends were not running interference for me, Avalon would be a troll-fest (http://ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll), like ATS is. I do what I can, but I can only reach people who have already been awakened somehow (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), and there are not many of them walking Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra), proportionally. Yes, Mother Teresa's image was fraudulent (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa), as was Padre Serra's (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa), etc. I have an essay on the mainstream media (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), and it is indeed evil, and those at the top definitely know what they are doing (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc), but I find the structural aspects (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing) far more interesting than the conspiratorial ones, and they are far more important, too. Yes, those at the top are evil-minded and are going to have challenging afterlives (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell), but the lion's share of the responsibility goes to the masses. Neither conspiracists nor structuralists like to admit it, however, as they both like blaming the elite (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness). That is how victims think, and thinking like creators is the only way out of the mess that I know of, and creators create with love (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest). Godzilla stepped on me (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting), more than once, but I wish him no harm. I wish him obsolescence (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear). :)

Best,

Wade

Fiberglut
6th September 2015, 20:23
Wade, I too offer heartfelt thanks to Bill Ryan for introducing you to us. With respect to the system, I agree that to the extent we participate, we all share part of the blame. We tend to go along to get along, having been conditioned by what I like to call the Billy Budd phenomenon, a process whereby the moral individual who takes a stand is often sacrificed to the system by his fellow man in a process utilizing cognitive dissonance as a mechanism to keep the status quo in place

Wade Frazier
6th September 2015, 21:31
Hi Fiberglut:

Yes, indeed, making examples out of the disobedient and "disruptive" has been an elite game since the first elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#legitimacy). :) When The Inquisition had people burned at the stake (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#inquisition), it was a societal "lesson" being played out.

Best,

Wade

Fiberglut
6th September 2015, 22:41
Wade, just curious...what is your take on the holographic universe concept? Have you researched the topic at all?

Wade Frazier
6th September 2015, 23:53
Hi Fiberglut:

Heck, the idea of the ZPF (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#zpf) is an offshoot of holographic universe theory, a la Bohm (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bohm), etc. Talbot's book goes into that stuff, and takes in NDEs, OBEs, etc. The Infinite Spirit's message of "We are one (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#nature)" is classic holographic universe stuff. Yes, I am familiar with the concepts. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th September 2015, 00:18
Hi:

OK, let's go deeper on this vaccination business. I guess the short answer would be to read my medical racket essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm). My editor reached her personal paradigm shift while editing it. Near the end, it all began to make sense to her, and she saw how it dovetailed with my adventures in the energy racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures). When pals read it, probably the most common response is to be speechless and overwhelmed when they are finished.

There are two tracks to follow, really. One is the paradigmatic sense that is part of the essay's arc, of what a catastrophe all "medicine" is that is based on the male-based, warfare-and-intervention-based paradigm. It is also a dark pather's wet dream, to turn what should be healing into lucrative warfare. The guys at the top are really little more than war profiteers (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#butler), and have vested interest that everybody keeps playing, like the house in a casino. I have even seen "skeptics" say that medical science is not science at all, but something akin to voodoo, and when the editor (http://www.drugawareness.org/editor-of-lancet-medical-research-is-unreliable-at-best-or-completely-fraudulent/) of Lancet recently stated that up to half of scientific research is bogus (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1/fulltext?rss%3Dye) (and it affects medical "science" more than any other), it only confirmed what people like me have known for far too long.

The other track is the data and theory that points to a different paradigm of medicine (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1), which is more concerned with true prevention than intervention, which seeks to keep bodies stay healthy, not "cure" disease. That is where you need to get into the details a bit. My vaccination posts are going to try to straddle both approaches, and in the end, I am going to propose my own hypothesis, which is going to be along the lines of why civilizations collapse (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses) and mass extinctions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#prehuman) have punctuated the journey of life on Earth. In the end, it is a story of energy and complexity, and how complex life (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mitochondria) works.

My big essay can be very helpful in drawing the picture, too, and I will refer to it from time to time. There were activities that we could call medicine in animals, such as fish that clean parasites off of others, such as the cleaner wrasse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrasse#Cleaner_wrasse). The motivation for the "doctors" has been the subject of debate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning_symbiosis) for a long time. Monkeys and apes have used their fingers to groom each other (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#grooming), which could be considered a form of preventive medicine, and is part of the array of animal activities called reciprocal altruism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism). But if an adult animal gets sick, other animals are not going to minister to it. Sick, crippled, or infirm animals don't live long, in general.

Down the human line, there seems to be some evidence of hunter-gatherer bands caring for crippled members, but it was likely rare before the rise of Homo sapiens. The hunter-gatherer lifestyle does not have much energy surplus. When an !Kung woman gives birth to twins, she must decide which infant to murder (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kungtwins), as she cannot afford to carry two, and nobody else will step up. The tales of Inuit putting their elderly on ice floes is not too far off from reality (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2160/did-eskimos-put-their-elderly-on-ice-floes-to-die), and it was always an economics issue. But when times were good, even hunter-gatherers could provide for the infirm, and some we could call medicine. Shamans, witch doctors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_medicine#Magic_and_medicine_men), and the like dispensed early "medicine," and it was likely of dubious effectiveness.

With the rise of civilization came professions, but doctors came relatively late, with the first recorded physician in history being Imhotep (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep), an Old Kingdom (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#egyptold) Egyptian. As women's status declined with the rise of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#womenstatus1), from that golden age of early agriculture (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), professional physicians were almost always men. In early Greek medicine, women had relatively high mythological standing, which was later subverted (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hygeia), and the Garden of Eden story shows how women were denigrated in those times. Historically, women administered most medical care, usually to family members, but men ran professional medicine from the beginning. While women healers advocated herbs, nutrition, and sanitation, men physicians emphasized violent interventions, or as my pal Ralph Hovnanian (http://ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#introduction) said, "Torture as treatment (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#torture)." The male domination of medicine has had great impact on the path that medicine has followed over the millennia, to the effect that the male paradigm dominates, and in the West, warfare has been waged on anything outside of that paradigm. That is my medical racket essay in a nutshell, but we are going to go deeper, into the trajectory of Western medicine in its scientific phase.

If we leave aside the work of Classic Greeks (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#galen), which was valuable, the first work of modern medical science is generally considered to be Vesalius's treatise on anatomy (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vesalius), which was published the same year as Copernicus's heretical book (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#copernicus). For the next three centuries, medical science slowly progressed, and battlefields (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pare) were where the techniques of emergency medicine were developed. In general, Western medicine is very good for treating traumatic injury, and very poor for treating chronic diseases.

The Enlightenment saw the rise of heroic medicine, and Founding Father Benjamin Rush (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rush) was its most famous practitioner. Mercury, bloodletting, and other barbarities characterized that period of "medicine," which is still with us in important ways. But the 19th century is really when the paradigm that guides today's medicine was set, similar to how economics is still stuck in its classical and neoclassical phase (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists).

I'll get into the 19th century with the next post.

Best,

Wade

Krist
7th September 2015, 12:54
"creators create with love. Godzilla stepped on me, more than once, but I wish him no harm. I wish him obsolescence."
Thank you for this very good example Wade.

Wade Frazier
7th September 2015, 13:48
Thanks Krist. I just hope that he does not step on me again. :)

Wade Frazier
7th September 2015, 14:41
Hi:

The 19th century was highly important on many fronts. In that century, Europe completed the task of conquering the world that Spain (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before) and Portugal (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#portugal) began in the late 1400s. The USA stole temperate North America (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#steal1) from the Indians and Mexico (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#mexican), and the 19th century began with the heaviest fighting amongst Europeans until World War I, with the Napoleonic Wars (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#napoleon). The UK and France continued their imperial competition, as the British conquered and settled Australia (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tasmania) (hunter-gatherers, in the Second Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2), were much easier to conquer than peoples in the Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3)), conquered all of India (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#bengal), with catastrophic consequences (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2), invaded China over the "free trade" of opium (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#opium), and the French conquered Southeast Asia and got some of the South Pacific as an imperial consolation prize. The late 19th century saw the Scramble for Africa (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#scramble), Japan was forced into the international arena by the USA (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#perry) as it began conquering the Pacific, beginning with Hawaii (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#hawaii) and the Philippines (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#philippines), and Europe lived in a golden age called the Belle Époque in the late 19th century (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#belle), while genocidal famines (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#starve) swept the conquered lands. The USA had its Gilded Age (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#hearst) at the same time, as it swiftly became Earth's greatest industrial power (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#oilwell), and the robber barons built their fortunes, led by John Rockefeller (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rockefeller1). By World War I, the only places on Earth of significance not ruled by Europeans and their descendants were Japan and the declining Ottoman Empire (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#ottoman), which was being nibbled at by the imperial powers, such as in the Crimean War (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#crimean), which was history's first industrial war. But the British Navy converted from coal to oil in 1911, and the chief outcome of World War I was Europe dismembering the Ottoman Empire (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#churchill1) and turning it into controlled oil states, with European puppets on the thrones.

Napoleon jammed the Enlightenment down Germany's throat (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#germany1), Germany began playing catch-up with the rest of imperial Europe, and by the mid-19th century it became the heart of laboratory science (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#investigating). In the 20th century, before the rise of Hitler and Germany's Jewish brain drain (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#toward), with Einstein being the most prominent refugee, German scientists won more than a third of the scientific Nobel Prizes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nitrogen2). On the scientific front, the phlogiston theory of combustion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory#Challenge_and_demise) was not overturned until Lavoisier's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Lavoisier) work in the 1780s, and it was not until Carnot's work in the 1820s (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#carnot) that a theory was developed to explain how heat engines worked. The science of energy did not really begin to develop until the last half of the 19th century (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#carnot), and Maxwell's work was seminal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clerk_Maxwell), although in FE circles it is understood that errors in interpreting his work is what made ZPE "impossible" in orthodox circles (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#zpf1), although in the Above Top Secret world, they know the right answer. Just the other day, I was listening to a clip about an encounter with the man who ran Lockheed's Skunkworks, and he mentioned the flaws in the equations (http://www.mufon.com/video-testimonies-3/in-1995-ben-rich-ceo-of-lockheed-skunkworks-said-we-now-have-the-technology-to-take-et-home-as-can-be-seen-in-this-video). The Skunkworks is no longer where the good stuff is (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), and the basic rule is that if you have heard the name, it is no longer important in Godzilla's (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) eyes.

Along with the great advances in the physical sciences, the 19th century was critical in the development of the biological sciences, and like how Maxwell's equations became a dead-end, with the flaws masked to this day in orthodoxy, mainstream biological sciences took turns that were arguably wrong, which it has yet recover from, similar to how economics has been in arrested development since the 19th century (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists). Early in the 19th century, in the USA there was a reaction to the barbarities of heroic medicine (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rush), and herbal medicine made a comeback (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#challenge), and those days saw the rise of homeopathy (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hahnemann), which I have seen work miraculously. Organized medicine began waging war against those practices with the rise of the American Medical Association (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#ama). In the halls of science, investigation of life's mysteries rose to new levels (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#investigating), and just what life is and how it came to be were central questions. By the mid-19th century, the issue of spontaneous generation was central (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lavoisier). The microscope was a key scientific tool, and its rise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microscope#Rise_of_modern_light_microscopy) was about a generation behind the telescope (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#galileo).

The spontaneous generation debate was finally settled around the same time that the theory of evolution burst onto the scene, which marked its ascent with Darwin's Origin of Species, published in 1859 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#darwin). If you pick up a microbiology textbook today (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#microbiology), in the first few pages, you will read that Louis Pasteur settled the spontaneous generation debate with his historic experiments in the 1860s. Nothing could be further from the truth, and in the 1970s a Harvard professor took a sabbatical and wrote a book (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#farley) that showed what a crock the textbook treatment is, but his effort did not make a dent in what is still presented to microbiology students on their first day of class. Pasteur was a theatrical self-promoter who sought riches and fame (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fame), and found it. He was a chemist, and seems to have earned his initial fame by discovering molecular chirality (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#chirality), although his path of discovery was murky and he politicized his account in his self-promotion, writing his mentor who guided him to his discovery completely out of his final account (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#laurent).

Pasteur originally subscribed to the spontaneous generation theory, but did a quick about face and performed some theatrical experiments in the Alps, and then theatrically announced his findings to a lay audience (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#sorbonne) in 1864, and that was when he became famous and began hobnobbing with royalty and the wealthy.

In those days, not only did people such as Pasteur rather crudely grope toward precedence and fame and fortune, but scientific issues were often "settled" by contests. Even today's quest for Nobel Prizes mars scientific practice (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nobel2), but it was far cruder in the 19th century, when contests, with rigged juries (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rigged), decided matters of science. It was in that environment that Pasteur prevailed with his "death knell" to spontaneous generation, and microbiology textbooks repeat the fairy tale to this day.

The fact is that by the time Pasteur appeared on the scene, spontaneous generation theory was already on its way out in France. Fermentation was not the only arena where spontaneous generation theory was being contested. The others were regarding parasites, which German scientists largely settled (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#parasite), and Darwin and Wallace's theory of evolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#darwin), especially Darwin's idea of descent with modification, leading to speciation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mendel).

But Pasteur rode his wave of popularity with lay audiences to becoming the towering figure that he is today, and vaccination (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination) is one of the chief outcomes of the Pasteurian paradigm and its germ theory of disease. Back in 1990, as I staggered out of my home town (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), radicalized (I have not been back, and wild horses could not drag me there), I began to perform the study that became my site today, and one of the early works that I obtained was Christopher Bird's book on Gaston Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens), whom Bird called the Galileo of the microscope. Naessens developed one of those microscopes that attains resolutions that orthodox optical theory declares is impossible. Bird and I were fellow travelers, and I read all of his articles on Yull Brown (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull) in preparation for picking up Yull at the airport for Dennis's Philadelphia show (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#philly), which to date is history's largest FE gathering. Bird was planning to write a biography on Yull before he died, and Yull described Bird to me as a "good man." Yull was not so good, as we eventually discovered, but Brown's Gas is very real, bizarre stuff, and I when I studied to speak about Brown's Gas at DOE hearings (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull), Bird's work was part of my preparatory materials.

Bird's book was the first time that I heard of Rife's "impossible" microscope (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife), and it was also the first time that I heard of Pasteur's contemporary, Antoine Béchamp (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm). Rife and Naessens never heard of Béchamp, but their research, with their "impossible" microscopes, confirmed Bechamp's key finding, of pleomorphism in microorganisms. Bechamp's story takes some telling, and I will leave that for the next post.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th September 2015, 19:38
Hi:

My family went "health nut" when I was 12 (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons), when my father embraced a live food diet, which reversed his artery disease, and I began a fasting regimen, which I still follow today, when I was 17 (and I exposed my early fasting and holistic health influence as a charlatan (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bragg)). Just as I began looking into Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens), Rife (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife), and Béchamp (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm), I obtained Ralph Hovnanian's (http://ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#introduction) Medical Dark Ages, which was primarily written to document the hundreds of trials of dozens of alternative cancer treatments and their success rates. They virtually all had higher rates than orthodox treatment, usually far higher, and all of them have been outlawed in the USA, The Land of the Free (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#free). What really bowled me over, however, were Ralph's quotation collages, and my reproduction of some of the quotes (http://ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#section1) is the oldest part of my public writings. In Medical Dark Ages I read of the fate of the booklet that saved my father's life: it was banned in the USA (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#banned). I was already intimately familiar with aspects of the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience), but I was about to get far more educated on the issues, and it is really when looking at the foundations of the disciplines that you can see where they went awry, and in a world of scarcity, those with political-economic impact tend to become rackets, and the more impact, the more they become rackets.

Of all the areas of alternative science and medicine that I have looked into since 1990, the first one I poked into is still about the most impressive to me, and that story begins with Béchamp. Pasteur was a chemist without any biological training, but that was not the case with Béchamp, who was a pharmacist and a college chemistry, physics, pharmacology, and toxicology professor, with plenty of medical and biological training. In the mid-1850s, Béchamp performed epic experiments (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#beacon) that definitively ruled out fermentation as a purely chemical or spontaneous process, and he correctly concluded that fermentation was the result of life processes. It spelled the death knell of the fermentation aspect of the spontaneous generation controversy, when Pasteur was still experimenting with soured milk and calling fermentation a spontaneous process.

Unlike Pasteur, Béchamp did not seek fame and fortune above all else, and Béchamp quietly submitted his findings to the French Academy of Sciences, which was where French scientific papers were typically submitted. Béchamp was correct, but his findings were not immediately hailed, as his colleagues doubted them, attributing them to experimental error or misinterpretation. History proved Béchamp right. Béchamp did not play the games that Pasteur did, and left that issue behind after solving the riddle, and he pursued some unexpected anomalies of his experiments. He found that fermentation could be induced by chalk (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#chalk), and the path of investigation led him to microzymas (literally "tiny ferments") and pleomorphic microbiology. He found that those tiny organisms that initiated fermentation, which were smaller than cells seemed to be, were alive (he had already established that fermentation was a life process) and seemed to be the building blocks of cells. It was a radical finding, totally at variance with the cell-based theories of life that continue to this day.

As with before, Béchamp quietly submitted his findings to the French Academy, but in 1861, three years after Béchamp had published his findings, Pasteur tried to take credit for Bechamp's discovery on fermentation in a meeting at the Sorbonne, after his theatrical experiments in the Alps the previous year. Béchamp had quietly watched the fumblings of that upstart Pasteur for years, but when Pasteur tried to take credit for Bechamp's discovery at that meeting, Béchamp finally had to speak up (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#plagiarize1), and Pasteur quickly admitted his knowledge of Bechamp's work. In 1864, in front of a lay audience at the Sorbonne (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#sorbonne), Pasteur again repeated his "discovery" of germs in the air, once again plagiarizing Béchamp, and that was when his reputation was made, at least among the laity.

The scholar who showed Pasteur's behavior to be scandalous (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#geison), as he vied for wealth and prestige, and showed how Pasteur even committed scientific fraud regarding his rabies vaccine (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rabies) in order to vanquish a rival, is the only mainstream writer on Pasteur who I saw even mention Béchamp, and he quickly dismissed claims of plagiarism, but he did not cite the proper book, IMO. He cited Ethel Douglas Hume's Béchamp or Pasteur, which he disparaged, and he further dismissed the "alternative" medicine's work that followed Bechamp's lead, but the book that he should have cited was Bechamp's, which makes me doubt that he read it. In the preface of his The Blood and Its Third Anatomical Element, Béchamp made the case very clearly of several instances when Pasteur plagiarized him (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#plagiarize). Pasteur became emboldened by his early successes in plagiarism, and his plagiarism in 1872, of a finding that Béchamp had made eight years previously, pushed Béchamp over the edge. In Bechamp's words:


"Now in 1872 M. Pasteur attempted his boldest plagiarism…This was too much: up to that time I treated the man with consideration; but now he must be properly exposed; first I, then Estor [Bechamp's colleague – Ed] and I together protested energetically."


Pasteur by that time had imperial patronage, nobody wanted to challenge Pasteur (except those he stole from), and that "Teflon effect" regarding Pasteur lasts to this day. Pasteur's experimental ethics foreshadowed Nazi Germany's (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#prisoners), but he is treated today as a heroic icon of science and medicine. Pasteur's treatment in mainstream science texts reminds me of how Columbus (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#zinn) is treated in mainstream history books, or Washington (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), as their undeniable crimes are swept under the carpet in favor of glory stories. The lies of omission and commission about Columbus and Washington could be considered "benign" in that they "only" served to bolster the in-group (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) ideology known as American nationalism (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), but what seems to be the case with the treatment of Pasteur and the paradigm he founded may be far more pernicious: it arguably set microbiological science and the treatments derived from it on a false foundation.

The Pasteur/Béchamp issue could be seen as an innocuous footnote in the annals of science, and mainstream science almost completely ignores Bechamp's contributions, particularly in pleomorphic microbiology, but scientists in the 20th century (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bechamp) kept stumbling into the same territory that Béchamp did, and they never heard of Béchamp, but two of them were also armed with "impossible" microscopes that should be used in every biological lab on Earth, but hardly anybody has even heard of them. That story will be told in the coming posts. This is all germane, IMO, to the vaccination issue.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th September 2015, 15:54
Hi:

The issue of Pasteur's germ theory or Bechamp's pleomorphism directly impacts the issue of disease. The germ theory states that there are species of microorganisms that are born and die as the same species. Some species are healthy to the "host" organism, and others are parasitic and/or cause disease. Pleomorphic theory posits that those microorganisms that have different forms during their existence, appearing as one species one day, and another species the next, and even appearing as a totally different kind of organism at another time. If pleomorphic theory is valid, then targeting a "species" of microorganism for destruction would be folly, especially if it was calling one of its pleomorphic stages a "species" and not targeting its other stages. The microbes may be changing form due to their environment, their normal life processes, or other reasons.

This is not a new issue. One of the more intriguing apocryphal quotes is Pasteur admitting, on his deathbed, that his friend Claude Bernard (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#geison) had it right, in that the terrain is vastly more important than the microbe (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bernard1).

Ironically, the first independent confirmation of Béchamp's pleomorphic theory was made at the Pasteur Institute in 1914 (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#henri), where ultraviolet light changed a rod-shaped bacterium into a spheroid bacterium. Soon after that, a biologist was working on the issues of disease, and developed a microscope that was the world's most powerful.

Not only had Bechamp's work never received a fair hearing, but those who ended up reproducing his evidence and theories, either by following his lead or independently discovering it, have never received a fair hearing, either, and that may be the primary point of this series of vaccination posts. In these areas, the scientific and medical establishments have fallen far short of the ideal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories) and have even acted the opposite, acting as inquisitors and hit men in rackets, not as truth seekers. A pal recently sent me a link to this article (http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2015/09/04/3697846/wikipedia-extortion-scandal/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tptop3&utm_term2&utm_content5), which shows how Wikipedia is being used today for racketeering purposes. That is the tip of the iceberg. I use Wikipedia for topics that are the least likely to be affected by the racketeers and other ax-grinders, but warn my readers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wikipedia), and for areas such as alternative medicine and FE, Wikipedia is truly worse than worthless, and I will present some examples in this string of posts, beginning with the inventor of that microscope, Royal Rife (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife).

IMO, there is no argument that Rife's microscopes really obtained the "impossible" resolutions claimed for them. Surviving micrographs prove it (http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm#8). But more than that, when he invented his microscope, electron microscopes had not yet been invented, and his microscopes were undisputedly the most powerful on Earth. His San Diego laboratory became a scientific Mecca, and newspapers such as the LA Times covered his microscope (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#kendall) before the medical racketeers got involved, led by the greatest quack of the 20th century, Morris Fishbein (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein), who was the face of Western medicine for a generation, but never practiced medicine a day in his life, failed anatomy at a dubious medical school, and his greatest claim to fame was designing "research" to make medical claims for cigarettes (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#cigarettes), and his greatest triumph was spearheading the campaign to promote an asbestos cigarette filter (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lorillard). Truth can be stranger than fiction.

Fishbein mounted a "War on Quacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#quacks)" during his tenure as the face of modern medicine. Oh, the irony. He followed in the footsteps of his mentor, another quack (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#simmons) who helped turn Western medicine into the racket it is today. Between them, they were the editors of the Journal of the American Medical Association for a half-century, as the Journal ran cigarette ads and committed other atrocities. The AMA was in bed with the cigarette companies until the 1980s (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vending), when the conflicts of interest were so blatant that the AMA became a laughingstock. Then cigarette companies used the Reagan administration to force open Asian nations to American tobacco companies (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#tobacco), and they specifically targeted women and children to addict to their deadly product, and it worked. If you want to call that evil, you would be correct, IMO.

The medical racketeers are very active at Wikipedia, dominating all articles on alternative medicine (most such "editors" are likely on the payroll), as the medical establishment portrays all alternative practitioners as quacks, even if they were Nobel Laureates, such as Linus Pauling (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pauling). I really don't want to deconstruct the lying Wikipedia articles, but if you look up Rife and Naessens, you will see that Rife' microscope is decried as "impossible" and the smear on Naessens does not even mention that he has a microscope. It would be like smearing Galileo's claims on Jupiter's moons without mentioning that he has a telescope that can see them, which is why Christopher Bird called Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens) the Galileo of the microscope. It is like calling Dennis a crook without mentioning that he put the world's best heating system (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) on people's homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), but his assailants not only pulled that off, but made up other Big Lies (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel) in their presentations, even Dennis's so-called "allies (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel)" in the field, and I have had to hear incredibly naïve and irrational defenses of that criminal activity over the years, as everybody repeats the Big Lies, like they were under the spell of some Jedi mind trick. I will present the evidence, and readers can see for themselves how Wikipedia and the medical establishment treat the subjects.

Rife made several of his microscopes, and like Naessens, tried to make it so that his microscopes could be mass-produced cheaply, at a high enough resolution so that others could travel the same paths of discovery. Those men were the very opposite of some inventor playing the proprietary technology game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#proprietary). There are really two technical issues regarding both men's microscopes, and one can be difficult to understand, and the other is easy.

According to orthodox optical theory, the wavelength of visible light limits the resolution of optical microscopes. The wavelength of visible light is about 4,000 angstroms (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#wavelength), which limits the resolution to about 2,000 angstroms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microscopy#Limitations), or 1,500 diameters. Naessens's microscope achieves a 150 angstrom resolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens) and gets 30,000 diameters. He tried to patent his microscope, but was defeated when he tried to explain how it achieved those resolutions using orthodox optical theory. Scientists don’t know what light is, and the wave/particle duality of light, electrons, and other subatomic "particles" still baffles them, and is the big "skeleton in the closet (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#vonneumann)" of quantum physics. So, declaring the resolutions "impossible," when looking through the lens proves the "impossible," is idiotic, and the same problem that Galileo encountered. But as important as those resolutions is that they are achieved optically (AKA using photons). Electron microscopes achieve far smaller resolutions, even smaller than an angstrom, but electron bombardment from microscopes will kill what it looks at, so electron microscopes used in microbiology can only see snapshots of death. Rife's and Naessens's microscopes saw movies of life.

How hard it is to understand that movies of life are going to discover life processes in the subcellular milieu that snapshots of death cannot? You might be amazed at discussions that I have had with scientific establishment people who deny that simple logic. It was surreal at first, but I have now seen it many times on my journey, and it can be particularly bizarre when denying Washington's fraudulent plan to swindle the Indians out of their land (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), the USA's "Grand Finale (http://ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm#finale)" bombing of Japan as it was surrendering after being twice nuked (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping), and other undeniable events. It is all there, in black and white, in the perpetrators' own hands and their handiwork is even sometimes celebrated, and still it is denied. Never underestimate the human ability to stay in denial, no matter what people's eyes tell them.

Rife would sit for 24-and-48-hour marathons at his microscope (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#micrograph), which was how he stumbled onto similar pleomorphic dynamics (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#kendall1) that Béchamp described. Movies have been made of pleomorphic dynamics, and one scientist stated (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#appleton) that with those movies, it is increasingly difficult for the medical establishment to ignore the findings, but it still does. This phenomenon is far from confined to science, and invalidates the conceit that scientists are somehow of the pure faith, of finding the truth where they can. It is like Chomsky and Herman's analysis of the media (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing), in how the media can pretend that it is free and truth-seeking, but only within a very narrow range of parameters, and questioning their commercial/imperial assumptions is beyond the pale, even considered crazy, as they cannot see beyond the paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction) of their in-group ideology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup). One might say that they are incapable of it, which brings up the question of whether they are truly sentient beings (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). But it is more like they simply refuse to acknowledge what is so obvious (http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/) so that they can have a somewhat clear conscience.

Rife's microscopes are nearly a century old, one was sold on EBay several years ago, and Naessens invented his microscope before I was born. It would be like the Wright brothers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wright) flying through the air for a century, not only ignored, but man-powered flight being called "impossible" the entire time. The Wright brothers were "only" ignored and ridiculed by the scientific establishment for five years, which was open-minded, compared to what Rife and Naessens endured.

Rife began building his microscopes before 1920, and kept improving them, and by the 1930s his microscopes were something to behold, and scientists beat a path to his door, to see for themselves. Rife was able to use his microscope to develop an electromagnetic treatment that cured disease, particularly cancer, and that is when Morris Fishbein and his cronies got involved. Back in those days, not only was Fishbein promoting the single greatest cause of cancer, cigarettes (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#cigarettes), but he tried to buy up and monopolize the cures. Who wants to argue that his right and left hands did not know of each other (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein1)?

Fishbein began that practice with Harry Hoxsey (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hoxsey), and when miracle cures began happening with Rife's treatment (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hamer), Fishbein's cronies tried to buy into Rife's company, and when they were rebuffed, they bankrolled a lawsuit to steal the company, which bankrupted it and drove Rife to drink. I have been there (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail). When you go through the American legal system's meat grinder, even when you "win," you lose. Fishbein and friends wiped out Rife, and when another man tried to resurrect the effort a decade later, he was kangarooed into prison (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#crane), in California of all places. :) I have seen and heard of more racketeering activity in California than anyplace else on Earth, be it medical, energy, or what have you, and I doubt that it was only because of what I lived through. California is the heart of darkness, but gets promoted by Hollywood and the media as the place to be. One of Rife's prominent allies was Millbank Johnson (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#johnson), another MD who treated patients with Rife's device, and just as he was going to publish his findings, he died (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#johnson1), of poisoning. What a coincidence. The same time that Johnson suddenly died in 1944, another scientist had an article published in Smithsonian, which is where those surviving micrographs (http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm#8) come from. After that article was published, the scientist had his windshield shot (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bankrupt) in a failed hit attempt. Those events happened as Fishbein's "War on Quacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#quacks)" was going into overdrive. It seems to have certainly been a "war."

Fishbein worked out the same town at the same time as Al Capone, and used similar tactics. I have seen Fishbein compared to Hitler, as far as all the death and suffering that he was responsible for, but I will be gentler and call him the Al Capone of modern medicine (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#capone1).

Aside from all the horror inflicted by Fishbein and friends onto pioneers whom they could not buy out (don't expect that any of that will make it into Wikipedia anytime soon :) ), what is fascinating about Rife's story is that he independently verified Bechamp's findings without ever hearing about him, and had the microscope to prove it. Rife documented that there were only about ten different classes of "germs," and that they changed form based on environmental conditions (see Barry Lynes's The Healing of Cancer, pp. 120-121.). Rife was one in a long line of scientists who independently confirmed Bechamp's findings, and they all had hell to pay. Wilhelm Reich died in prison (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#reich) after one of his experiments successfully treated cancer. The Fitzgerald Report (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fitzgerald), submitted to the U.S. Congress in those days, confirmed the racketeering of Western medicine in cancer treatment, and even Harry Truman called the AMA "just another mean trust (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#libel)."

Next up will be Naessens, and then I will get into vaccination. It is all closely related.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Fiberglut
8th September 2015, 16:10
Wade, I'd be extremely interested in any commentary you might have on George Merkl.

Best,

Fiber

Wade Frazier
8th September 2015, 16:27
Hi Fiberglut:

Merkl was another professional descendant of Béchamp's (http://www.sun-nation.org/merkl-pleomorphism.html). I am dubious of the Sumer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sumer) and Anunnaki tales, and other fringe stuff that Merkl was associated with, but pleomorphism is real, and it would not surprise me in the least that he was murdered, but he lived to a ripe old age.

Brian got sucked into the Face on Mars (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#new) and moon landings (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#apollo) controversies, which is a risk of being a high profile scientist on the fringes. There is a ton of chaff out there for every kernel of wheat.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th September 2015, 22:57
Hi:

On to Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens). As I previously wrote, I read about Naessens before I ever read about Béchamp (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm) or Rife (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife) (they were both in Bird's book on Naessens), and while I was studying thermodynamics (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#carnot) and Mr. Mentor's (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) and Victor Fischer's (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#fischer) engines, beginning to study the work of Uncles Noam and Ed (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing), and reading Ralph McGehee's memoir (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm), and building my already pretty formidable mystical library (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#research), I began studying alternative medicine. My introduction to alternatives (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons) was alternative medicine, and if I had not already been radicalized by my journey with Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting), and had already seen the medical racket in action (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience), I wonder how well I would have digested what I was studying.

Not long after reading Bird's book, I was getting it into the hands of AIDS patients, as Naessens's treatment had reversed AIDS when AIDS was considered a death sentence. Those AIDS patients elected to die rather than try Naessens's treatment, which both could have done with very little expense, inconvenience, or effort. It was surreal at first, but I eventually learned that it was normal. I had seen it in people when we went "health nut," who knew that their diets were killing them but downplayed the effect of diet (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings), but people given their death sentence refusing to examine something placed in their laps (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom), which could have been pursued with little expense or inconvenience, was an eye-opening experience, and when another friend did that recently (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom1), I was not surprised, even though she asked me what I would have done. In my early days of alternative cancer treatment study, I mailed a stack of books to a relative who developed cancer and told me that he was open to alternatives. He mailed it back to me, unopened, cut off all contact with me while calling me crazy, and died not long after mailing it back to me. Nobody could tell me a story of denial and fear on that issue that would surprise me. If people with their lives on the line react with denial and fear when faced with alternatives to orthodoxy that could save their lives, the denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5) projected at the idea of FE by the masses is very understandable.

My site had my email address on it, from 1996 to 2002, and I would periodically hear from people with relatives and friends with cancer and other terminal maladies, and they tried to use my work to let their loved ones know about alternatives. All I ever heard were stories of their loved ones instead deciding to have "aggressive" treatment and other orthodox plays, and how agonizingly they died, usually quickly. I have only met one person (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#alternative) who actually tried an alternative cancer treatment, and the medical gangsters revoked her doctor's license as he was treating her. Of course, she was cured. :)

I have seen evolutionary explanations for why people will choose certain death over questioning their conditioning, as herd "thinking" outranks independent thinking for species fitness for social animals. Maybe that is accurate, but once again brings up the question of whether humanity is really a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience).

Naessens's story is similar to Rife's. Naessens was run out of France, then Corsica, and when he fled to Canada (when the man trying to resurrect his effort (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#crane) was kangarooed into prison, Rife fled to Mexico), and people began using the treatment that derived from the discoveries that his microscope made possible, he was arrested and put on trial, and the prosecutor was trying for life in prison. Naessens's cured patients besieged the trial. The cancer racket in Canada is not nearly as entrenched as the USA's (which is exactly the racket that Benjamin Rush warned against (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rush)), and not only was Naessens acquitted, but people can receive the treatment under an informed consent law, and tens of thousands of people have used it, and there has never been an adverse reaction. His treatment is food for cancer cells, as such is not really a drug, and is more akin to a homeopathic remedy.

An American began the FDA's process for getting Naessens's treatment approved in the USA, and instead the FDA kangarooed the man into prison (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pixley). The medical racket in the USA is as evil as I have seen or heard of. According to Brian O's pal Jon Rappoport, the medical racket is one of seven that dominate the world economy (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc), and Rappoport said that the hit men for the medical racket are far more vicious and ruthless than those for the energy racket, and from what I have seen, I'll buy that. Bill the BPA Hit Man (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm) "graduated" from being a hit man for the energy racket to becoming a hit man for the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#biomed), and he literally works for a Fortune 500 company today, in California, of course. :)

At the same time that I was contacting that man who went to prison for trying to get Naessens's treatment approved in the USA, I tried to help out Dr. Burzynski (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#burzynski), who was on trial, as the FDA tried to wipe him out for the umpteenth time. Not long after I read the book on Naessens, I had a live blood reading performed with a dark field microscope. It did not have the resolution of Naessens's, but still the somatidian (Naessens's term for Bechamp's microzymas) dynamics were evident, and the technician was able to point out Naessens forms in my blood. A few years later, my wife began seeing Dr. Brodie (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#brodie), who was one of many California refugee doctors. Brodie set up shop in Reno, Nevada (others usually go to Mexico, but even then the FDA kidnaps them (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#keller) and puts them into prison – the man who cured Brian O's cancer was kidnapped by the FDA in South America (http://www.naturalnews.com/027750_Greg_Caton_FDA.html), that is how long the FDA's corrupt arm is). The dark field microscope was amongst Brodie's diagnostic equipment, and all doctors that I encountered in those days, of the alternative persuasion, respected Naessens's work. I once called Gaston and talked to his wife for an hour (Gaston cannot speak English). They were trying to build an academy where microscopists could learn how to read blood using the dark field and Naessens's teachings. They were trying to create a cheap retrofit kit so that people could get those "impossible" resolutions, and before the roof collapsed on Dennis's efforts in 1997 (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting), I was working with a professional to build one of the higher-end scopes, which would have cost less than $20K, which was a pittance for medical equipment like that. I obtained Naessens's treatment for Dennis, for his immune system issues (Dennis decided that intra-lymphatic injections were more than he wanted to do, so he did not administer it), and they sent it to me with an invoice, trusting me to mail them an international check. Some scammers. :)

I hope it comes across that I was not just an armchair scholar on this stuff. The fringes are filled with chaff, but in this area, almost all of the persecuted "quacks" were either MDs, scientists with lofty credentials, or both, and the data from those "impossible" microscopes is irrefutable, IMO. The most sober voice on alternative cancer treatment has long been Ralph Moss's (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#moss), and he was nearly giddy while reporting on his visits to Naessens's lab (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#moss1), after a friend was cured of cancer by Naessens's treatment. Like Rife in his heyday, Naessens's lab was also a Mecca for scientists, who all walked away amazed.

The bottom line is that Naessens, like Rife, had never heard of Béchamp but invented a microscope to overcome the limitations of optical microscopes. Again, orthodox optical theory cannot explain how they work, but that just shows that optical theory is in for an overhaul. Anybody who knows much about the history of science and technology knows that this situation is typical, in that technologies operate on principles that baffle the theorists, and those technologies end up shaking up science. The Michaelson-Morley experiment's results (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment) were not explained for a generation, until Einstein's special theory of relativity. The steam engine (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#steamengine1) existed for more a century before the theory that could begin to explain how it worked (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#carnot) was developed. Before and after the Wright brothers flew (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wright), experts called heavier-than-air flight "impossible." The Brown's Gas transmutation experiment (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull) has been performed many times, and orthodox theory cannot explain the results. It is ludicrous to declare that Rife's and Naessens's microscopes achieve "impossible" resolutions, so the claims have to be fraudulent, when the results are reproduced every day at Naessens's lab, as well as by microscopes that others have. But that is how the medical racket operates, and organized skepticism (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends) is a criminal arm of the Establishment's immune system, ready to be deployed against anything that threatens the rackets.

When Bird informed Naessens of another Frenchman who was his professional ancestor, Gaston had never heard of him, but as he looked into Bechamp's work, he said that what he documented were likely cousins to what Béchamp found. Naessens documented a 16-stage pleomorphic cycle (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens), which mainstream microbiology textbooks are completely silent on, while they tell fairy tales about Pasteur (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#farley).

The next post will be a little paradigmatic overview of this situation on the foundations of microbiology, and then I will deal with vaccinations.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th September 2015, 05:03
Hi:

There will hardly be a subject that I address for the rest of my life that I will not reference my big essay, and the issue of the germ theory versus pleomorphic biology is one of those subjects. To revisit the scientific ideal, the only chance that a scientific hypothesis can aspire to be valid (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories) is to account for all of the known evidence regarding the phenomenon being considered. If I have not demonstrated in this series of posts that not all of the evidence relating to the germ theory of disease is accounted for in the hypothesis, I hope that at least there is some uneasiness that maybe it has not.

With what I know has been suppressed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) and developed in Godzilla's realm (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), today's prevailing theories of gravity and quantum physics are very much open to question. There will likely not be much in today's physics texts that will survive what those technologies reveal about how our universe works, and physics is the hardest of the hard sciences. The greatest physicists were not too impressed with science as a whole (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#real), but they believed in the process, while acknowledging its limitations.

How can viable hypotheses emerge when vested interests promote certain evidence (such as fluoridation's "evidence (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#compulsory)") and suppress other evidence? Any hypothesis concocted in an environment like that is going to be flawed, perhaps deeply so. There is a great, naïve conceit among many that science, particularly in areas that have great political-economic impact, is somehow above the fray, that it is not influenced by those interests. Heck, the editor of the world's leading medical journal (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1/fulltext?rss%3Dye) recently stated that up to half of scientific research (read "medical research (http://www.drugawareness.org/editor-of-lancet-medical-research-is-unreliable-at-best-or-completely-fraudulent/)") is worthless due to conflicts of interest. It is hard to maintain one's naïve faith with statements like that. Just like there is a COINTELPRO program for FE inventors (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=811647&viewfull=1#post811647), there has been one (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#free) for doctors and scientists whose findings can upset the medical racket, and worst treatment of all has been in the cancer racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket).

Cancer is a failure of the immune system, which everybody seems to agree on. The pleomorphic dynamics that Naessens documented (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens) are common to all degenerative diseases that he studied, and they all responded to the same treatment. What is disease? What is its cause? Can it be remedied? Prevented? These are key questions that medical science asks, but if they are all asked within a warfare paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine), the "solutions" are all going to look similar, and drugs, surgical procedures, and other violent interventions are about all that is in the Western doctor's medical kit. That is no accident. As John Robbins said about Western medicine: when your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

What is infectious disease? Why are some people immune while others contract it? Does the germ theory really explain it, or are their more compelling hypotheses? Is today's germ theory only one facet of a larger framework? Many medical treatments were used before anybody really knew why, such as citrus for scurvy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#scurvy) and quinine for malaria (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#quinine). Vaccination began before anybody really knew why it worked (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination), if it really worked. Give somebody a disease as a way to prevent it. There is a certain logic to it, as for various diseases, once somebody gets it, they are immune afterward. But is puncturing the skin and implanting so-called disease organisms into the body a way to confer immunity? Nobody gets a "natural" disease that way. Is vaccination iatrogenic, meaning that the process itself actually creates disease? These are important questions, and I will show what my studies yielded over the years. Maybe in the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), some kind of vaccination concept will survive (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1), but I doubt it. Vaccination is violent and invasive, like all masculine medicine, and I think that there is ample reason to doubt both its safety and effectiveness, and that is coming in future posts.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th September 2015, 16:36
Hi:

Before I get into vaccination in some detail, I think that I made the point in the previous post and my other work, which is that the paradigms that the energy and medical industries work from are not those of free inquiry, free markets, and the rest of those ideals, but racketeering practices prevail (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm). In environments like that, how can the prevailing paradigms (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction) be valid? The paradigms are about greed and population management, not an impartial search for the truth, freedom, and making the world a better place. When people such Dennis, Rife (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife), Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens), and the like appear on the scene with their radically transformative technologies, which undeniably work but threaten the rackets, the Establishment shamelessly lies about it, usually led by "skeptics" who are often outright criminals (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel), and the pioneers find themselves under attack and are jailed, imprisoned, and ruined, if they survive the experience, and those wielding the axes (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care) do it with glee. I discovered that the hard way (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail). Dennis put what was undeniably the world's best heating system (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) on people's homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), and was wiped out for his trouble, after initially thinking that the energy interests would throw him a tickertape parade (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tickertape1). Like Sparky Sweet (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tickertape2), he found out differently (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#scam), and we later discovered that the public lives in a world that resembles The Matrix, and the sheeple live in denial and fear. The energy industry is undeniably that way, and so is Western medicine, as I discovered.

If Western medicine was guided by the principles of free inquiry, freedom, and improving the public's health, Rife's and Naessens's microscopes would have been subjected to a vast effort to build more of them, and scientists the world over would have been peering into the subcellular milieu with them, on a great voyage of discovery, and Nobel Prizes would have been the least of Rife's and Naessens's accolades (and Uncle Noam (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big) would have won a Peace Prize instead of Henry Kissinger and Obama), but they would have only been following in the footsteps of their world-famous predecessor (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm), Béchamp, and nobody would have heard of Pasteur, hack that he was. But our world does not work that way and never has. Instead, those who crave wealth and power rise to the top, and the more ruthless and devious, the better, and professions and industries become rackets, and the in-group ideologies that everybody is imbued with (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) maintain the illusion so that the elite can continue to exploit the herd. Once a person has had an awakening experience of some kind (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), it becomes relatively easy to see through all of those false paradigms. That does not mean that the alternatives are valid, either, but anything like that should be put to the test, orthodox or alternative (http://ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm), and then we can see what is valid. The fringes are filled with chaff, with various authors and activists promoting their ideas, but not much withstands scrutiny (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102).

Maybe, if all the evidence was in and impartially assessed, vaccination in some form would pass muster (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1), in that it would be seen as a safe and effective way to prevent disease. That has definitely not happened, and as with many areas like this, the vested interests have played games of secrecy, wiping out contrary data, skewering the pioneers, and the like, so it can be like assembling a jigsaw puzzle with many critical pieces missing. Anybody working in these areas faces that problem, and having some firsthand experience is always necessary. You can’t do it all from your armchair or surfing the Internet.

With that preamble finished, let's look at vaccination. The idea is giving somebody artificial exposure to a disease, as a way to prevent them from catching the actual disease. The idea is thousands of years old (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination#History), but Edward Jenner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner) is considered the father of modern vaccination. Even Wikipedia admitted that people inoculated for smallpox still got it, but what it does not mention is that Jenner kept coming up with new, ad hoc, explanations for why people that were inoculated kept getting smallpox and dying. Neil Z. Miller's Immunization: Theory vs. Reality covers some of that territory. Jenner's vaccination efforts happened generations before Béchamp, Pasteur, and others. Jenner and friends did not know what the hell they were doing, but making it up as they went along, and the data was rigged early on. George Bernard Shaw remarked on the statistical fraud (http://ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#shaw) that the English medical authorities engaged in to make smallpox vaccination appear more effective than it was. As the vaccination idea failed, then they came up with the idea of revaccination, and poking people several times, as if more was better. Public health officials periodically admitted that the entire game was a charade of statistical manipulation.

What the standard histories will not tell you is that there was vociferous early protest to vaccination, especially from mothers who saw their children tortured by vaccination, and most damning is the fact that smallpox outbreaks usually happened after a population was inoculated, and they were usually the deadliest outbreaks. In 1853, England passed a mandatory vaccination law. Before then, there was no two-year period that claimed more than 2,000 lives from smallpox. Between 1870 and 1872, after fifteen years of mandatory vaccinations, 45,000 people died of smallpox in England (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination) (see Immunization: Theory vs. Reality, p. 28). In Germany, where everybody had been vaccinated, 124,000 people died during the 1870-1872 epidemic (see Neil Miller's Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? p. 45). Smallpox death rates only began declining as people refused to be inoculated. That was a standard outcome in many nations that adopted mandatory vaccination. In heavily vaccinated Japan (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#smallpox), 29,000 people died of smallpox in a seven-year period during the late 19th century.  At the same time in Australia, mandatory vaccination was terminated when two children died from the vaccine, and there were subsequently only three cases of smallpox in Australia in 15 years. Smallpox is always the example that vaccination advocates trot out to show that vaccines work. Yes, there is little smallpox (maybe none, but that is debatable), but there is also little bubonic plague, and there was never a bubonic plague vaccination effort.

The decline in infectious epidemic disease appears to have everything to do with improving sanitation, hygiene, and nutrition, not vaccinations. Several years ago, I saw a poll of doctors and health professionals, and they were asked what the greatest medical advance has been during the demographic transition (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic), and the number one answer was improvements in sanitation, hygiene, and nutrition, not medical interventions. It was nice to see that.

In Hume's disparaged and ignored Béchamp or Pasteur, published in 1932, she wrote at length about Pasteur and vaccination. She presented many examples of the "success" of vaccination, and especially smallpox. Little more than a century ago, in the USA, the fatality rate from smallpox was 3%, but in the newly conquered Philippines (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#philippines), among the heavily inoculated American troops, a smallpox epidemic had a 25% fatality rate, and in Manilla, which was the most heavily vaccinated part of the Philippines, the death rate was 65% among the natives (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#philippines).

The fact is that for every vaccine ever introduced, the disease was already on its way out, with death rates declining by anywhere from 60-95% before the vaccine was introduced. What you will see vaccination proponents say is that vaccination reduced the incidence of the disease, and that the decline in mortality that preceded the disease was due to medical advances such as antibiotics. The problem with those arguments is that most of those diseases, especially the killers, were also on their way out when antibiotics were introduced, and the trend line in the decline in fatalities was unaffected by the introduction of antibiotics and vaccines. In fact, the introduction of vaccination often increased the incidence rate.

Polio was already on its way out when the vaccine was introduced, and when it was introduced in New England in the 1950s, the polio incidence immediately more than doubled (see Neil Miller's Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? p. 20). Heck, even the Center for Disease Control, which is the heart of the disease establishment in the USA, published that between 1973 and 1983, 87% of the polio cases were caused by the vaccine. Even then, after the polio vaccine was introduced, they began to diagnose polio as asceptic meningitis (see Neil Miller's Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? p. 22). A polio researcher noted that polio was a summer disease, and seemed related to the consumption of ice cream and other sugary products, and in 1949 he mounted a campaign to have North Carolina's residents stop eating those sugary foods, and the consumption of those foods, and the incidence of polio, declined by 90% that summer. The agribusiness interests, led by the Rockefellers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rockefeller1) of all people ( :) ) and Coca Cola, mounted a propaganda campaign against that program, and by the summer of 1950, sales and polio cases had recovered to their pre-1949 highs (see Neil Miller's Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? p. 23).

What is ironic is that in those days, the FDA was only charged with ensuring the safety of medical interventions, not their effectiveness. The orthodox medical industry in the USA was always of dubious benefit, not only going back to Rush and his heroic medicine (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rush), but during the Gilded Age, when the pharmaceutical empires that dominate today were built, there was the proprietary medicine craze (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#proprietary), and it was all fraudulent. Because the medical industry kept developing and promoting drugs and surgeries of highly dubious effectiveness, the FDA was charged in the 1960s (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#proprietary) with ensuring effectiveness, which the medical racket soon subverted into using to wipe out any challenges to the racket. Orthodox cancer treatments are only effective in fantasy, and usually hasten the deaths of their patients (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket), but somehow they are called safe and effective, while truly harmless, cheap, and effective treatments have been outlawed on the "ineffective" and "false hope" angles, since the racketeers could not assail the safety aspect. Quite a subversion of the law's intent, I would say. The cancer racket's blacklist is actually mined by the cancer establishment for new ideas that they can steal, while the pioneer dies in obscurity or worse (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#steal). The racket tries to portray those on the blacklist as uneducated quacks, but those on the blacklist (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#blacklist) are primarily MDs and scientists with doctorates.

Putting the racketeering aside for a moment, vaccination proponents will use the decline in incidence of childhood diseases such as measles as proof of vaccination effectiveness, but there is a pretty large body of work that supports the argument that those childhood diseases are important events that help develop a child's immune system. Measles long ago ceased being a death threat for children, and we have sanitation, hygiene, and the rest to thank for that, not vaccination. Better treatment of the ill is far and away the reason for reduced fatality rates, not vaccination. The issue of those mild childhood diseases and vaccination will be the subject of my next post.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th September 2015, 18:16
Hi:

For a brief break from vaccinations, I was made aware of this (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/09/07/this-political-party-is-calling-for-free-electricity-for-all/) last night, and can count on being "made aware" of it many more times, as I get bombarded with that stuff. Like the Free Software Movement, they get part of the solution, and they have even embraced the idea of FE, but are stuck on naïve newbie paths such as the FE inventor of the hour with his gizmos in a warehouse somewhere, ready to bring it to the world, except not quite. That is one of the many paths of failure (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) that I have witnessed over the years. I actually contacted the author, and we will see if I hear back. The problem that I have seen with the Tellingers and others is that they are also scientifically illiterate and go chasing after "lost civilization" and related stuff, which is almost always invalid (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102), but they do not have the discernment to winnow the wheat from the chaff, or are unwilling to, or even worse, know that their stuff is bogus, but the lay public will eat it up, especially the New Age (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage)/Conspiracist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) crowd.

Time for a day of chores.

Best,

Wade

Fiberglut
9th September 2015, 18:46
Wade,

Tellinger is a captivating speaker and a likable chap, at least on the surface as I have never met him personally. I must say however, while I can't personally vouch for their accuracy, articles questioning his sincerity and integrity have appeared on Alfred Lambremont Webre's Exopolitics site in the past. There is a distinct possibility that he is a shameless self promoter.

Fiberglut
9th September 2015, 18:57
Wade,
Extraordinarily well said; you have encapsulated the medical racket in a nutshell, and by the way, I am an MD. I doff my cap to you, sir. I can honestly tell you that from my personal experience, very few MD's have awakened. Those I try to nudge seem to be encased in an impermeable shell of cognitive dissonance. I am surrounded by blue pill people more than happy to keep on keepin on...

Fiberglut
9th September 2015, 19:03
BTW, just got a text from my wife who has taken Grandma to her cardiologist for a routine check-up. He is giving everyone in the office a "flu-shot"' as I write. Makes me want to scream!

Wade Frazier
9th September 2015, 19:25
Hi Fiberglut:

Well met, MD. :) I can see why you would not use your real name here. End of career! :) On MDs on their blue pills, as you know all too well, most went into it for the money, anyway, and there are all manner of enticements to keeping taking the blue pills (like those babes who dispense them for the pharmaceutical companies), and taking the red pill can be very hazardous to one's career. Those doctors who really cared and pursued alternative cancer treatments were made examples of, and the lessons were learned. Doctors who are the slightest bit unorthodox live in fear of the medical inquisitions. I might tell an anecdote or two in the future on that subject, and let me know if I don't. When I encounter professionals like you, I invite you to critique my work in your area of expertise. I am a layman and can’t do it all by myself.

On Tellinger, many out there can talk a good game. Again, that entire milieu is one to be very wary of, including Webre. He and I live in the same town, but I have no desire to meet him. There is so much chaff and disinformation out there, ready to swallow up the unwary and undiscerning. Much is of the incompetent variety, but some is purveyed quite consciously. I don't know about Tellinger and where his heart is, but I certainly don’t buy his lost civilization stuff. Many amateurs out there in their pith helmets. That political party has the right idea in ways, but chasing after FE inventors with their gizmos is not the way to go about it.

I am trying to help shorten the learning curve for people in those movements, and we will see how many of them, if any, can tell that I am doing something different and come sing with me (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir).

Time for more chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 01:04
Hi:

Between chores. Again, there is plenty of reason to doubt the germ theory of disease. Some part of it may survive, but while an entire line of inquiry has been effectively banned (and who knows what else?), the germ theory's prominence as the dominant explanation for infectious disease may not be warranted, and may be a grotesque truncation and oversimplification of the real process. I am not saying that Béchamp, Rife, Naessens, and company were all 100% right – no theory is 100% right – but their technologies, discoveries, and treatments have not been given a fair hearing. What I always found the most impressive is their microscopes that are ignored and denied by the establishment, when they are not being disparaged and attacked. Truly, it is the same problem that Galileo encountered, and their fates were similar.

Soon before he died, Brian O said that the scientific establishment's denial and blindness was worse today than when the Wright brothers flew (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wright), and in ways, it is as far worse than when Galileo was forced to recant. He was not subjected to murder attempts for his discoveries.

I will tell an anecdote that I alluded to in the previous post to Fiberglut. I met Brian at an airport (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), to take him to a new science conference. At that conference, I met quite a few fringe science names, including Bob Beutlich, who died several years ago (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nwherald/obituary.aspx?pid=125471148). I met and talked with Peter Moscow, who succeeded Bob as the president of that new science organization (http://psychotronics.org/). Peter also died several years ago (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/louisville/obituary.aspx?pid=149683649). While that organization was ignored by the mainstream, as all such organizations are, Peter once talked about Bob thinking that talk about surveillance of their activities was just so much conspiratorial paranoia until one day when Bob picked up his phone and heard his voice. Back in those days, one of the cheap ways to do surveillance was to put a recorder on the phone line, and after the call ended, the phone line would be used to transmit a recording of the call to a central recorder. It was an automated process. In Ventura, a childhood friend, who worked for our company when we were raided and driven out of business, picked up his phone not long after the raid, and heard his own voice, just like Bob did. My friend was a very peripheral character in what happened in Ventura, but his relationship to me and our company got him a recorder on his phone line. It is guaranteed that all of our phone lines were tapped, and I have assumed that I have been under surveillance since those days, maybe continually.

Peter was an alternative health practitioner, and I think it was in the same talk when Peter talked about the state of medical orthodoxy in the USA, and he quoted somebody in the French Revolution, and Robespierre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilien_Robespierre) may have been on the giving or receiving end of the quote, which was given to somebody just before they were guillotined, which was something like, "You are a wise man, but France cannot afford any wise men right now." Peter said that the USA's medical establishment had become like revolutionary France, and no doctor wanted to be seen as "too wise," else he be professionally executed. That was in 1990-1991.

I donated a little money to Peter once, and he then called me at home and we had a nice chat. I remember class like that, and Peter was one of the good guys.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 06:16
Hi:

On vaccinations, when people ingest disease organisms, what happens? The body reacts to the invasion. Is it really reacting to a genuine disease? No. It is fake, and the idea is that the immune system learns from fighting the imposter, so that it can defeat the genuine disease when it comes.

The evidence used to support vaccination, beyond any statistical games, is that antibodies are produced when the body is invaded by the vaccine. The problem is that antibody production is just one of many reactions that the immune system has to disease, and there is really little clinical evidence that antibody production means that immunity has been conferred by the vaccine (see Sherri Tenpenny's Saying No to Vaccines, pp. 32-36). An analogy that I think is pertinent is how orthodox cancer treatment success is measured. In the business, the treatment is considered successful if the tumor responds to the attack. Sure the tumor responds. It is being attacked. But tumor responsiveness means nothing at all, as far as treating the disease itself. The tumor is not the disease, but one of its symptoms. That the body reacts to the attacks does not mean that disease is being cured or prevented.

When a child gets a measles shot, what really happens? Even if it seems that the child becomes immune to measles, what really happened with the child's immune system? There is a great deal of evidence that vaccinations actually impair the child's immune system, leading to chronic diseases later in life. All degenerative diseases that Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens) studied, for instance, including cancer, AIDS, Crohn's, rheumatoid arthritis, and the new degenerative diseases that are increasingly being discovered, are all immune system failures. Even diabetes is an immune system failure, as the immune system attacks the pancreas. What is the connection to vaccination? Many suspect that there is a direct connection, and there is plenty of evidence (Tenpenny's book goes into detail of the connection between vaccination and chronic diseases, such as asthma, allergies, rheumatoid arthritis, and neurological diseases).

There is also evidence that childhood diseases such as measles and chicken pox are used by the body to build its immune system. It is part of what is called the Hygiene hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis).

What might be the most egregious vaccination issue is vaccinating infants. When Japan stopped vaccinating infants, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) disappeared. The connection between vaccination and SIDS is very clear (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#sids). Vaccination is a great trauma to infants.

Tenpenny's book delves deeply into the scientific literature, and she provides evidence to refute the 25 most common arguments for vaccination. One neat trick by vaccination makers has been a sleight of hand regarding vaccine safety. For all tests of drugs, for instance, the control group is not given the drug, and drug safety is determined by comparing reactions in the drugged group to one that did not receive it, generally by a double-blind test, in which the control groups received a placebo. Vaccine safety abandoned that standard, and instead, if the adverse reactions are not more than adverse reactions for a similar vaccine, the vaccine is called safe. MDs are generally very surprised when they find that out. Vaccines have different standards than other medical interventions, where a certain level of adverse reaction is called "safe." That is arguably fraudulent. Many contaminants have been found in vaccines, and they even put mercury in vaccines, as a preservative. Surreal. Although it is kept pretty quiet, more than one billion dollars has been paid out in the USA to people who were harmed by vaccines.

When all is said and done, vaccination is far from proven to be safe and effective, and the germ theory that it all rides upon is very open for questioning, IMO. It is also part of the male-oriented paradigm of violent intervention, and this case, intervention that claims to really be prevention.

I am not done writing on vaccination. Books such as Tenpenny's, written by a very brave MD, go into quite a bit of depth and detail on vaccinations, in the scientific literature, and I recommend it.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Servant Limestone
10th September 2015, 13:18
Hi:

It's been a while since I posted, but I was prompted by the presence of a MD and also got curious about that Ubuntu Party, but yeah, I've heard about it before and that also reminded me of the Pirate Party (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party). I want to put them in the category of groups like the Natural Law Party (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law_Party) of the United States as some of those "weird" groups advocating revolutionary changes in terms of how we do things right now. The Natural Law Party is a bit more spiritual with its advocacy of transcendental meditation to bring peace and I got more awareness of that group through the Secret, with people like John Hagelin there who is its presidential candidate many times and also through Neale Donald Walsch, who is a supporter of the party. This is way back. The ideals doesn't seem that crazy now compared to my first encounter with that party. Nevertheless, a FE future will give more than what these parties can give combined. It's just crazy because given the radical approaches of all these groups, the real radical approach through a Free Energy Solution Revolution doesn't have a "political party". Well, at least, we all know why. And the political movement approach are one of those approaches that's noted that cannot truly work. If only there could be a "Free Energy Party" with Dennis Lee as National Party Chairman and presidential candidate for 2016. But no, that's ridiculous. I've even discussed before that my background as a radleft (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=967771&viewfull=1#post967771) will not truly help in this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=967797&viewfull=1#post967797). The struggle for a Free Energy Solution Revolution towards the Fifth Epochal Event is a truly informal pacifist insurrectionary political struggle, where getting the influence of other people can only be done through love and education as a means to an end. This is a politics of an almost absolute universal peace. It's literal. If politics is about power, then this is even anti-politics. This is beyond imagination. And that's why an almost complete supermajority of humanity cannot contemplate this. Unbelievable. I am still amazed up to now about Wade's journey and I think I will always be. And "free energy politics", or at least the proper one, is a complete difference from the usual politics of today. It's hard. This is hard. But I am going to try to help. I am honored to become even a peripheral part of this since the real "militants" will come from the choir. :)

I do hope that we can see a lot more MDs, free software movement activists, Pirate Party people, rad-leftists, Third Worlders, and women in this thread in the coming months. :)

Thanks,

SL

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 14:48
Hi SL:

You really get a lot of this quite well, young man. Your level of understanding is very rare. I don't write that to puff you up, but to show other readers what I am looking for. Yes, indeed, while the idea of political parties can be interesting, those fringe groups really are not doing anything but making a public statement. As Bucky noted, politics is not going to solve anything important (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics), and the system is beyond rigged. It is actually a trap to think that any of that is going to make a dent.

All of those mass movement efforts are doomed before they begin, if epochal change is their goal. I did that for years with Dennis and Brian (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) before I finally figured out what was wrong with that picture. What I call retail politics is all for show, and nothing important happens at that level. It is really bread-and-circuses stuff, and the sitting president is way down the global food chain, a powerless figurehead (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents), as far as Godzilla is concerned.

Deliver the most transformative technology in the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) to the world, and now you are talking. :) But it won't be easy. People are free to try out Ubuntu, playing the Level 10 game, and the like, and they will see what gets done, which is almost nothing. Political platforms on bringing FE to the world are not a bad thing in of themselves. Could they help create the critical mass needed for the FE technical project? Possibly. But the masses are not going to begin to wake up to FE until it is delivered into their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink). It has always been that way for epochal change. Until FE is delivered, the masses won't even be able to imagine it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine). I really have not paid much attention to Ubuntu, but I hope that Tellinger does not bring his "lost civilization" and other stuff into it.

I expect that the choir-building (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) is going to be a slow process, especially at the beginning. It takes a lot of work to unhook from the machine of scarcity-based indoctrination. I have to be vigilant every day.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 15:21
Hi:

Let's see if I can wrap up my vaccination writings with this post. The bottom line is this:


The very theory behind vaccination rests on shaky ground, going back to the very beginning;
There is a great deal of evidence that points to a paradigm other than the germ theory of disease, such as pleomorphism (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm), but it is all suppressed by the vested interests and the public is oblivious;
Vaccination (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination) has in no way been demonstrated to be safe and effective, as the data has been rigged in numerous ways; it very likely impairs the immune system rather than trains it;
With such a shaky foundation, it is typical for something like that to be made compulsory, as the vested interests milk the herd;
As with fluoridation (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm), orthodox cancer treatment (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket), and other violent and invasive treatments (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine), it is legitimate to wonder if it was all some kind of premeditated evil plan. My experience is that evil interests are definitely involved at the top, but the evil system works because people give their power and sentience away (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system). People refusing to take responsibility for their lives and their role on the planet, stampeding off the cliff to their deaths (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings), the chase after wealth, fame, and power – these contribute far more to the situation than those dark path (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) opportunists who see it as a great way to form another racket; they are taking advantage of humanity's integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) and sentience (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience) deficit, and trying to widen that deficit, not narrow it. Sentient people with integrity cannot be herded like humanity is today, and the only real solution is for humanity to manifest sentience and integrity.


In my next post, I am going to provide my own hypothesis, based on what I have witnessed and studied on my journey.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 17:17
Hi:

Before I begin my day of chores, I am going finish these vaccination posts and present my own hypothesis on human health in today's world, and it really helps, IMO, to go back to my big essay's early chapters, such as the basics of chemistry (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chemistry), the basics of life (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#aspects), how enzymes work (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enzyme), how DNA is put together (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dna3), and other dynamics that happen at the molecular and cellular level. Those basics are billions of years old, and they are not going to change anytime soon.

DNA and enzymes are huge, delicate molecules held together by relatively weak hydrogen bonds (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dna3). Building molecules like that takes an energy investment, and molecule-building reactions are called anabolic (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#budget). Every organism works within an energy budget and has to decide whether to use its energy to build itself, run itself, or repair itself. Only with a generous energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus) can organisms reproduce themselves, which is why starving people don't feel much like having sex, and why women stop menstruating when they are starving.

If a cell is damaged enough, it will usually "commit suicide" by what is called programmed cell death (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ros). From an energetic perspective, it is cheaper to destroy a cell and use its useful parts, while discarding the waste, than it is to repair a cell that cannot do its job or faithfully reproduce. One cause of damage is a complex cell's energy generation system (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mitochondria), as oxygenic respiration (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#aerobic) leaks free radicals that damage molecules. Cells are equipped with antioxidants to limit the damage, and sexual reproduction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sex) itself is thought to have arisen from DNA repair mechanisms.

The bottom line is that an organism invests energy to build molecules such as DNA, enzymes, and so on, and they are easily damaged. Ultraviolet light damages DNA (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ozone), which is what sunburn is. The hydrogen bonds that hold together DNA and enzymes are easily broken, such as by fluorine ions (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#enzymes). Scientists use fluorine ions in biology labs today to poison enzymes. Ionizing radiation is another source of damage, as it strips electrons from molecules, wrecking them and creating free radicals that destroy other molecules in a chain reaction. Lower frequency radiation, such as microwaves, can also damage biology, if not as dramatically as ionizing radiation. Every cigarette smoked introduces trillions of free radicals into the smoker's lungs, and every free radical does damage. Heavy metals produce similar damage, as do many chemicals created by industrial interests, and the vast majority have had no toxicity testing at all, but are just created and spewed into Earth's ecosystems and our bodies, and when it is even acknowledged, the corporate and governmental mouthpieces can be counted on to say, "Never fear, it is benign, and a little of it may be good for you!" If there is one constant that I have seen in my studies, it is that one, and Julian Simon's (http://ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm) stable of "scientists" could always be counted on to spout stuff like that. If there was a corporate pollutant, Simon could always find a scientist on the payroll to defend it.

While cooking (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cooking) reduces the energy required to digest certain foods, mostly non-fruit foods, and definitely impacted human-line evolution, maybe even leading to humans, it also introduces toxins (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#maillard), and food preservation practices (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#stale) introduce far more. Drugs generally work by inhibiting enzyme function, which means that they damage enzymes, and the theory is that scientists are clever enough to know what enzymes to damage, to somehow bring about health. Seems kind of nonsensical, doesn't it? :)

Each time a molecule is damaged by one of those dynamics that I listed above, the organism takes a hit, like a house having a window broken. Complex life came about by the symbiosis of bacteria and archaea (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mitochondria), and mitochondria, which were born via the first and greatest act of symbiosis, retain some of their DNA, and sometimes when cells get damaged by the vagaries of existence, they don't go quietly into programmed cell death, but "go rogue," and that is how degenerative disease is created. A healthy immune system easily deals with those rogue cells, but a beleaguered system eventually loses control, like an overworked fire department (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#anthro), and then the organism gets a full-blown disease that will eventually kill it. That is essentially the fruit of Naessens's work (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens), for instance.

In our world of scarcity, and as humanity industrialized, new toxins were introduced that biology had never faced before, particularly in the levels that humans generated and ingested them, such as smoke, ionizing radiation, ions such as fluorine's, microwaves, the toxins of preserved food, and the like. In all instances, vested interests tried to make those insults to biology appear benign. Better than that, they came up with ideas like: "A little radiation is good for you! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis)"; "A little fluoride is good for you! (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#compulsory)"; "Cigarettes are harmless! (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#cigarettes)" In all instances, those making those statements had conflicts of interest, usually being directly on the payroll of the vested interests, and often holding prominent positions. The man who made a fortune promoting cigarettes (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein) was the face of Western medicine for a generation, and he literally went on the payroll of a cigarette company to achieve his greatest triumph: the promotion of an asbestos cigarette filter (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lorillard). All of the scientists and others who promoted fluoridation had conflicts of interest (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#alcoa), often spectacular, and the man (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold) who derived the "safe" levels of fluoride to add to the USA's water supply secretly worked for the Manhattan Project, and still classified studies examined the damage that fluorine caused to the brain. When a scientist stumbled into the brain-damaging properties of fluoride (http://ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#mullenix), her career was quickly terminated.

Vaccination operates under the same principle: "A little disease is good for you!" And from the beginning, the conflicts of interest were evident, and the first great commercializer of vaccination sought wealth and fame above all else (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#geison).

Every time an enzyme is damaged, every strand of DNA that is damaged, every time a molecule is damaged by a free radical, it is an energy burden on the organism, and my hypothesis is that all of that damage hits the organism's energy "bank account," and eventually the organism will collapse into something akin to bankruptcy, similar to how ecosystems collapse in mass extinctions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#extinctioncauses1) and to how civilizations collapse as they run out of energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses). It takes a lot of energy to run the moving parts of complex life, complex ecosystems, and complex civilizations, and if the energy is increasingly diverted from building and running the complex biological "machinery" and instead goes to repairing damage, eventually there will be a collapse, and that is what I think that all of these new degenerative diseases, especially in the alarming increase in their frequency, have in common.

I am going to put these vaccination posts into one thread in my forum, for easy reading. I have a few of those threads to create, and plan to get it done this month.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

ThePythonicCow
10th September 2015, 21:22
Next up will be Naessens, and then I will get into vaccination. It is all closely related.
Awesome research, and great telling - thanks.

ThePythonicCow
10th September 2015, 22:18
Part of my interest in your telling the story of Becamp, Rife, Naessens and fellow researchers is personal.

I will never know if the various conditions (skin sores, lumps, lymph drainage, kidney pain, etc) that I have been working for the last couple of years were what would have earned me an official diagnosis of cancer or not, for I will be damned if I will ever give a conventional oncologist, legally empowered to make such a diagnosis, one second of my time or one penny of my money.

However for the time, I have been fiddling with diet and exploring what's going on, as I make more and more sense of what my body was complaining about and asking for. The lumps are gone, the kidney no longer complains, and the sores are down to perhaps 20% of what they were. I remain happy, healthy, functioning and expecting to live to a ripe old age. My diet bears almost no resemblance to whatever it was two years ago <grin>.

I just started reading one of Becamp's books on Kindle, at your suggestion, last week, and today ordered Bird's two books on Naessen. All I had read earlier of them was the more conventional ridicule of Rife, and that made no sense. But now more of this is making sense.

Thanks.

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 22:38
Hi Paul:

Thanks for your story. While the medical racket is intact, all you will hear from the halls of orthodoxy, if you hear of Rife (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife) at all, will be ridicule. While we live in the super-epoch of scarcity, the rackets will be alive and well. However…

It has really been something to see the change in the orthodox view on diet and artery disease, just in my lifetime. I was ridiculed since age 12 (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons), when my family went "health nut" to cure my father's hardening of the arteries. The orthodox medical dogma of the day was that hardening of the arteries was a normal aging process, and that reversing the condition, especially by diet, was "impossible." The booklet that saved my father's life was banned the next decade (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#banned), in The Land of the Free, and when I first wrote my medical racket essay, the 1996 edition Mayo Clinic CD that I used (and still have around my home somewhere) did not admit that hardening of the arteries was reversible, and the only treatments they acknowledged were drugs and surgical procedures. Imagine my delight when I updated my medical racket essay last year, and the Mayo Clinic's website page on heart disease (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#mayo) had diet and lifestyle changes as the first line of defense, and heart disease deaths in the USA have markedly declined. Pretty stunning.

However, the cancer racket plays at a higher level of evil and is more heavily entrenched. I wonder if you and I will live to see the rehabilitation of Rife, etc (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#free). We'll see.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 22:43
Paul, you might want to cancel one of those Bird books on Naessens. They are the same book. The "Galieo" book was the original, and the "Persecution" book is just the second edition.

ThePythonicCow
10th September 2015, 22:58
Paul, you might want to cancel one of those Bird books on Naessens. They are the same book. The "Galieo" book was the original, and the "Persecution" book is just the second edition.

Aha - too late - but both are just a few dollars each - so it's little matter - not worth the special bother of disrupting orders already on the shipping docks.

Wade Frazier
10th September 2015, 23:11
Happy double-reading then. :)

Wade Frazier
11th September 2015, 00:36
Hi:

Briefly, I sent my final vaccination post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=997689&viewfull=1#post997689) around to some pals, and am getting interesting responses. That issue of pleomorphism and degenerative disease I have likened to how civilizations collapse (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses), and a further analogy can help illuminate the infectious disease dynamic. Take Rome. Rome was a huge energy-concentration device (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tenochtitlan1), and only after centuries of long, slow decline (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peaceofrome) did it collapse and fall prey to barbarian hordes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#antonine). It was only after Rome's immune system collapsed, as it ran out of energy, that it became vulnerable to barbarian "germs." It is well known that epidemics particularly sweep through populations already weakened by famine. Same idea. Again, the state of an organism's immune system and overall constitution is more important than the "germs" that might seem to besiege it. In fact, pleomorphic theory says that the state of the constitution can change beneficial germs into "harmful" ones. Again, I am not saying that pleomorphic theory is going to be the final theory on health, but it more than deserves a seat at the theoretical table of biology, and might deserve to sit at the head of the table, if a fair hearing was ever held.

Also, that dynamic harkens back to what I read in my spiritual studies long ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#seth1).

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

Krishna
11th September 2015, 06:53
Wade,
This thread is your platform, I want to bring utility to it via my thoughts and not be disruptive. Reading, understanding and replying also takes a lot of your time. Therefore, I will write 2-3 more posts on free software/culture/knowledge and then depending on what you want, we can continue this topic on this thread, take it up via email or stop altogether.


It seems to me that you want the choir to
1) understand how the world really works, not the indoctrinated version of it.
2) think in Fifth Epoch terms
3) bring their understanding, sing on your forum


I see “intellectual property” to be a racket like any other racket that you have written about. In FE world this racket will disappear as will other rackets, but you still need your choir to understand how the world really works. Which is why I have stayed on this topic.

In my opinion thinking in terms of ownership of knowledge/culture is itself thinking in indoctrinated terms. This indoctrination was the hardest for me to overcome. For the most part I understood Chomsky or Sen or your writings as soon as I was exposed to them. The only serious mistake I made w.r.t. your work is not fully understanding the central role of Energy in our lives, I finally understood after I read your big essay.

On the other hand it despite me being trained as a software engineer it took me full 6 years or more to understand Richard Stallman’s philosophy, it is the hardest lesson that I learnt. I am surprised that it blows your fuses, which means that the Indian charity that I blew fuses at have some choir members in them. :)


First regarding Mr. Mentor’s work, Yull Brown, your hollywood friend with the stolen script. I would say that is stealing. Why? The ideas/scripts/time given by the respective parties was given with some expectation to a few private parties, that shared agreement was violated and therefore we can call it theft. Private agreements between private parties were broken.

If copying is stealing then any limit on the length of copyright (say 10 years) is also stealing. Mark Helprin wrote A Great Idea Lives Forever. Shouldn’t Its Copyright? (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/opinion/20helprin.html?_r=0). I don’t agree with him, Lessig wiki has a different take: Against perpetual copyright (http://wiki.lessig.org/Against_perpetual_copyright)

As a background one of the defining features of the caste system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India) in India, is stopping people from studying anything else other than whatever they were born into, a weaver’s kids are always weavers etc… there were Guilds in west, and not allowing education of African Americans in the past was roughly along the same lines. The underlying reasons are always economic, superficially reasons are given which change with whatever can be passed off as moral given the historical era. The high castes of India did not allow others to either get education or participate in the culture of the community (no entrance into temples etc…) It could be argued that they owned the knowledge/culture and therefore exclusion was moral/ethical. In the 1960’s/70’s poor countries argued that they could not afford technical books and pressured (coerced?) the developed world to release low cost editions, in India they were called Eastern Economy Editions. Everyone of the high caste refugees that you see in Seattle read those books and all of them used illegal windows (including me), photocopied textbooks are also normal in India. We have more recent examples with pressure (coercion?) to decrease drug costs via compulsory licensing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_license).

You mentioned 1493 and the Grand Exchange (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_Exchange) Do we owe anything to the peoples of the world who domesticated those plants? I am thankful for the fruits and plants that I enjoy today, but like Stallman wrote (https://stallman.org/articles/biopiracy.html) I don’t think monetary compensation because they domesticated the plants is the right way. They deserve comfortable lives just like every other human being does, not because they happened to get lucky and domesticated the right plants.


I find Stallman's arguments too lawyerly. He is basically arguing against private property and advocating the communist ideal.

Wade, you have not taken the time to understand Stallman’s philosophy. It is very hard for me to disagree with you on ethical grounds, because you have taught me a lot about ethics. But this one time I have to disagree with the best teacher I have/had.

Its not useful to dig into Stallman’s life too much, he may or may not be perfect. We have to judge his ideas on its own merits, not on whether he lived them perfectly (or our misunderstandings/interpretations of his life). Stallman in his own words said that "free software clearly does have Anarchist aspects, Capitalist aspects and Socialist aspects (not Communist, though) (http://www.redditblog.com/2010/07/rms-ama.html)". He most definitely is not arguing against private property in his essay "Misinterpreting Copyright", it is a very common misinterpretation. He wrote eloquently about his ideals in his book Free Software Free Society (http://shop.fsf.org/product/free-software-free-society-2/), and in his semi-autobiography Free as in Freedom (http://shop.fsf.org/product/free-as-in-freedom-2/) both readable online and available under a free culture license as is the case with all of his works. I will let his words defend himself.


So, how do I understand the ethics/morality of sharing/paying of culture and knowledge?


But I do not advocate coercion, which is the opposite of freedom.
To tell people that they have no right to compensation for their labors is what slaves are told.

Aha… here is the difference in how we view things. There is no slavery here, nobody forces authors to publish anything. The authors/artists have to assess their opportunity and publish their work (or not) based on their various motivations. They could sell a painting, perform at a concert (and charge admission), or like Charles Dickens make money from selling the unpublished original to a local publisher who makes money from having a first-mover advantage, or like Nina Paley depend on selling merchandise, creator endorsed events, goodwill of the fans, there are some more suggestions (https://stallman.org/articles/end-war-on-sharing.html). If none of them seem promising they are free to spend time and energy on something else.

On the contrary members of the public are being coerced from using what is already in their possession. Should the farmer have a right to stop me from growing crops from seeds that were voluntarily sold to me? If so, I am being coerced. Same with Microsoft Windows software, did I force Microsoft to make their software publicly available? they choose to make it public given their economic calculations, why should I be coerced from sharing it? Of course they want money from sales and no matter how much money Bill Gates makes it is not enough, there was a running theme (http://www.seattletimes.com/business/gates-tugs-communist-thread-again/) in Microsoft that Linux/Open Software was 'communist'. Singing Happy Birthday in public is a copyright infringement (http://www.unhappybirthday.com/)

I support peoples rights to keep their own works private, after they choose to make their works public stopping the sharing is coercion. Michele Boldrin and David K.Levine say it better than I can (http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/coffee.htm).

The public may get less culture/knowledge under a system of no coercion, and might decide to tradeoff freedom to copy/use public knowledge/culture for 10 years of copyright coercion in order to incentivize authors, just like we might choose to incentivize inventors by coercing ourselves for a limited period via patent law.

The argument for coercion and stopping sharing are economic arguments.
The argument for everybody to have a right to copy/share is a moral/ethical argument.


Means become the ends

The means of coercion become the ends of stopping people from becoming educated, and from participating in the culture of their communities. Elites rule in other words.

While sharing culture/knowledge on the other hand leads to economic and spiritual development. In this world everybody benefits including the GC's.

My stances are ethical and counter intuitive.

Sharing of knowledge and culture is an essential part of being human. After energy it is arguably the most important part of our human journey.

"The cultural transmission of innovations was critical for growing humanity’s collective technology, skills, and intelligence.”

Wade Frazier
11th September 2015, 15:42
Hi Freeknowledge:

Yes, I think that we can let this Free Software issue go for now. Again, it goes back to what I have stated before. If somebody created something with the intention of being paid, and the person receiving the benefit did not pay, it violates the intention of the person who created it. Period. The end. No arguments on the common good and if they have the right to ask to be paid. I don't care about common good arguments and the rest. They are irrelevant to the issue. It is the simple issue of what the author intended to do with the fruit of his/her labors. It cost me millions of dollars in lost income to produce my site, but that was my choice. I won't demand it of anybody else or argue that that is how it is supposed to be. That issue is a far cry from saying that people can be denied the right to consume it, like caste systems did.

If people want to argue that nobody should have the right to be paid (whether it was public or private interests is irrelevant to me), they are arguing that authors (whether it is writings, music, inventions) should not make income trying to sell to the public. So, the public gets the benefit, but the creator gets nothing? That is why there are patent and copyright laws, so that the creator/author can be compensated. Chomsky argues for direct state support. OK, but states are supported by coercive taxation, and in a world of scarcity, it is all very understandable, as "progressives" try to equitably slice up humanity's scarce economic pie. Make the pie a thousand times larger (million? whatever), and those efforts and arguments quickly become meaningless.

Again, as long as the Free Software people are willing to give their work away (like I have), more power to them, as they cut into Gates's billions. :) If they want to argue that nobody should ask for income for work intended for public use, they are going to have to convince everybody who wants to make a living selling to the public that they have no right to make a living that way, not the beneficiaries. It is easy to convince people that they deserve to get something for free. It is far harder to convince people to give their work away. If they want to take away that ability to get paid, "for the common good," then that is what states do, with laws and enforcement, etc., and all states are coercive. I am not into mincing words on calling it communist, socialist, capitalist, or what have you – it is all scarcity-based, and Fuller noted that all political systems competition is meaningless in the big picture (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics). It is clearly the song of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10) to tell somebody that they do not have a right to income for doing something that somebody else benefits from (or tell the world that they should receive those benefits without paying for them – that is exactly Stallman's argument, as I have read it, "You all deserve free software" – then who pays to make it?).

Is this an issue of equity? How much is reasonable (10 years versus 17 versus forever)? Should poor people pay less? I think that is fine, but there is an octave to reach, far above the legalistic and lawyerly arguments that I see coming from the authors that you link to. Their arguments are very lawyerly, and believe me, I am very familiar with lawyerly arguments.

It is a very artificial division, IMO, to divide mental versus physical work, to divide the beneficiaries into private and public interests, and say that the author only deserves payment if sold to private interests rather than the public, or say that he only deserves compensation for physical labor versus mental labor. Thinking is not easy. :) All of Stallman's and related arguments are playing The Exchange Game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), and I am not interested in them. I seek to end the game, but it will not end as long as we live in scarcity, and only FE can end that super-epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity), and humanity can become a Type 1 civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kardashev), and the world will end as we know it, just like it has with all Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine), but this one will dwarf all that has gone before it.

Again, in a world of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) (which Stallman cannot yet imagine, and even seems hostile to the idea of), people will not be motivated to be paid for their efforts. They will move up Maslow's hierarchy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs), as it were, and their motivation is not going to be primarily self-serving, as it is today in our world, understandably. They will desire to serve the common good, as it gives them "psychic income," and most will do it out of love, which does not require any recompense, even psychically. It is how they will fulfil their souls. If everybody has plenty, the concept of being paid is going to be alien. Again, nobody is going to have to make lawyerly arguments and no coercion will be necessary. It will be obvious to all. And those who want to be paid, or they will not contribute, will be like pouting children sitting in the corner, with their faces turning blue because they refuse to breathe. The adults will have to show them that the air is free and that it is their choice to not breathe it, but why?

The engine of abundance is energy, it always has been and always will be, and only in affluent societies like in the USA (history's richest and most powerful nation, because it is history's greatest energy-using nation) can ideas like Free Software make sense. Heck, computers, software, and the Internet itself were only made possible by the USA's affluence. Raise all of humanity's energy consumption by a factor of a thousand or so (a million? whatever), and scarcity will disappear, and nobody like Stallman is going to have to make arguments for why people do not deserve payment for making something for the common good. People will happily serve the common good, as everybody's needs will be met. Nobody will be wondering where their next meal comes from, whether they will have a roof over their head next month, and the rest of the daily fears that dog people living in a world of scarcity.

My intent for you was to relate what you learned from Free Software to the idea of Free Energy. Before the idea of the Free Software Movement existed, Dennis was putting the world's best heating system (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) on people's homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs). He took advantage of a government subsidy to do that. It is still the closest thing to "free energy" that has ever been on the world market. But our evil system took him out (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle), and Stallman can't believe it, because it sounded like a "conspiracy" to him. He is far from alone, and the Left is notorious for that kind of ideological naïveté (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#religion).

When we began to chase after the Big One, FE, then they stopped playing nice, as Godzilla finally rolled out of bed to see what all the commotion was about, and we got our first friendly buyout offer (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten). After offering Dennis a billion dollars to go away (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer) a year later (I was his partner then, so a big piece would have been mine, but we were never tempted to sell our souls that way), they lowered the boom on us (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail), and it woke me up, to put it mildly, and again, it all goes far past Stallman's wildest imaginings, on several levels, and he is now openly hostile to the idea of FE. Sigh.

Dennis is the greatest human being that I have met or heard of (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany), and he is a bright boy. Brian was also a bright boy (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), so am I (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102), and we all spun that Rubik's cube every way that we could imagine for many years, and we were far from alone. I began spinning it in 1974 (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse). After the disaster of 1988 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr), I had serious doubts that the inventor/business approach to FE would work. At the end of my second stint with Dennis in 1997 (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting), I was certain of it, and have had no interest in inventor/businessman approaches ever since. But I am bombarded to this day with news of the inventor of the hour, who "Has it!", as people think that the approach has a prayer. Dennis still doggedly pursued that path, and it has been painful to witness. For normal inventing, the inventor is almost always screwed, and the idea of getting rich off of FE is not only a foolish and even deadly (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#deadinventors) idea, given the terrain (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), but inventors get overwhelmed by the issue and soon think that they are the Messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah), the Second Coming (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur), etc. I have yet to meet an altruistic inventor who wanted to freely contribute to "the commons."

I helped Brian found a non-profit organization (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem) to help the idea of FE along, and I was their primary patron for their first year of existence (as I made my money at a software company :) ), and soon after the first speaker for our first conference was murdered (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland), a few days after he agreed to be our speaker, Brian moved to South America, and I did not blame him. Not long after that, Brian's fellow board members kicked him out of the organization that he founded, and I was not surprised. Even the non-profit approach had its problems. :)

The bottom line is that almost nobody on Earth possesses the level of personal integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) needed to navigate the temptations and perils of the FE pursuit. I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle). Those in Godzilla's ranks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) are dark path masters (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving), and any self-seeking on the FE path is almost effortlessly defeated. The psychopaths that were sicced on us were very good at what they did (1 (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm), 2 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#deputy), 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas)), and I watched them easily manipulate those around us, taking advantage of their greed, fear, naïveté, and low integrity. It was all very educational, and when one of them took his mask off for me (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces), it was the turning point of my life, as I had my face rubbed in evil.

Ever since that life-changing moment on the witness stand, I realized that whatever I was taught about how the world works does not bear the faintest resemblance to how it really does, and it all goes about a thousand miles over Stallman's head, for instance, as a brilliant and great a man as he is. His reaction is typical, however, and Brian got a snootful of reactions like Stallman's during his days of playing the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions).

I went from the business approach to the non-profit approach to the give-it-away approach before I ever heard of the Free Software Movement. When you turned me onto them long ago, I saw some fellow travelers, and thought that they might understand what true abundance means and how to get there. So far, nobody in that movement has been home on that front, although I consider you a pupil who does his homework, and I think that you understand not only the role that energy has always played in the journey of life on Earth and the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyevents), but you have some idea of FE's potential (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). That is why we are having these exchanges. Will other members of the Free Software Movement understand? Maybe. A prominent member of the Free Software Movement was into Brian O's message, built a Bedini device and tried to interest Stallman in it in a public venue, and Stallman made it very clear that he was hostile to the idea of FE, and that prominent member felt that Stallman felt threatened that FE would steal his Free Software Movement thunder. Heck it steals the thunder of everything else happening on Earth today, so Stallman is in good company.

Unfortunately, that other member of the Free Software Movement was scientifically illiterate and was getting into bed with some of the same people who helped slit Brian's throat, and when I tried to warn him, that was the last time that we communicated. I think that he is going to learn the hard way, and that is always sad to see. I get approached all the time by people who say that my work is interesting, but they reject my work in favor of the work of Velikovsky (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#velikovsky), the Electric Universe people, the reconstructions of Cremo, Menzies, Sitchin, Hancock (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=105&viewfull=1#post105), and the rest of that gang. To me, it means that such people are scientifically illiterate or have not done the work. They then disappear down rabbit holes that lead nowhere. I see that all the time, especially when I post at a New Age/conspiracist forum such as Avalon. I have looked into the work of those authors, and their work is not valid, IMO. Some of it is shockingly poor, but the lay public cannot discern it, as they eagerly eat chaff, thinking it is wheat.

If people in the Free Software Movement are scientifically illiterate, naïve, intellectually lazy, and so on, they are not going to see the point of my work or what I am attempting. I am not averse to writing Open Letter 2.0, to see if I can reach any more of them, but it is also not at the top of my list of things to do.

One reason why I had Ilie (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/75-Ilie-Pandia-s-introductory-posts?p=131&viewfull=1#post131) and Darren (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=124&viewfull=1#post124) write their autobiographies as they joined my forum was to show how they got there, and specifically how they eventually came to realize that everything else that they had done with their lives, no matter how well intended, was hacking at branches. The Free Software Movement is trivial compared to making the biggest event in the human journey happen. Everything happening on Earth today is trivial, compared to that. Ilie is still struggling with the idea of consciousness and its relationship to the energy issue, and I have always stated that they are conjoined, but that higher energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus) led to higher cognition, from the rise of humans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpbrain) to today. Also, love is the energy of creation (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest), and love and FE are joined at the hip, in both practical and mystical ways, as well as the issue of consciousness. I have confidence that Ilie will eventually understand in ways that will make him a singer of the abundance song like few others have ever achieved, and I patiently await the day when he can. It will be something to hear. Giving people such as Ilie the opportunity to learn and sing the abundance song is the point of my writings and forum.

Freeknowledge, I want to hear you try out your singing voice on the abundance song, here on my thread, not expositions on the exchange games (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange) that the Free Software Movement is playing, with their arguments over property, the commons, and who deserves to be paid (or not), and why. You can pick one of the thousands of topics in my big essay, and begin that way. The Free Software arguments are all grappling with Third (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) and Fourth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) Epoch stuff, and my goal is to help people think in Fifth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) Epoch terms. When enough people can do that, FE will be unstoppable, no matter what Godzilla and friends do, and they know it. As long as people are fighting over their scraps in a world of scarcity, Godzilla has the game well in hand.

Some members of the Free Software Movement see glimmers of the bigger picture, but just glimmers, as far as I have seen. Can you learn to sing with me? That is what I am interested in, my friend. I am not sure if any of your Free Software brethren can learn that song and sing it, but I think that you can.

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

ThePythonicCow
11th September 2015, 19:43
Aha - too late - but both are just a few dollars each - so it's little matter - not worth the special bother of disrupting orders already on the shipping docks.


Happy double-reading then. :)
Ah - I got lucky - one of the two suppliers send a second message, saying, no, the item was not on the shipping dock, but rather that the order had been canceled, because he was out of stock :).

Wade Frazier
11th September 2015, 21:42
Hi:

Signing off for a couple of days. Briefly, my work has several purposes, but are all related to making the biggest event in the human journey manifest (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), which will also save humanity's bacon (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), as well as all other species that we share the planet with (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sixth1). To put it mildly, it is big stuff, and that is plenty to have on one man's plate.

As I look back to the study that I began back in 1989, to get any expert witnesses up to speed for Dennis's trial (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it), I can see what I was groping toward, but it did not finally crystallize for me until I read some of Bucky's work (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) in 2003, and my writings have been consciously comprehensive ever since.

My big essay was the fruit of a quarter-century of study, after I had been radicalized, and my radicalization came after a quarter-century of being groomed (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm) to become what I was. SL recently wrote that he was amazed by my journey (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=997640&viewfull=1#post997640). All I can say is that I often look back at my journey and wonder if it really happened, and I lived it. :) I won't write my big essay's like again in my lifetime, and I am probably finished with writing essays. The series of vaccination posts that I recently made is probably going to be along the lines of what I write anymore, at least until I can get a high-level discussion of my big essay going, but the medical racket is also trivial, compared to how the energy racket is holding humanity in slavery and threatening to make Earth uninhabitable (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth).

In my daily readings of the financial blog-o-sphere, I am continually reading about the elite getting ready for it to hit the fan, and since I was a teenager, it was evident that if you wanted to ride out the end of the world, New Zealand was probably the place to do it, and it turns out that the retail elite been busily building their survival enclaves there (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/what-do-they-know-why-are-so-many-of-the-super-wealthy-preparing-bug-out-locations). But that is small stuff, compared to Godzilla's survival plans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mars), as he is at the helm, running Earth and humanity into the ground. And almost nobody knows or cares. That is just who humanity is these days, and it does no good to judge them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1).

If less than 10,000 people truly wake up, put aside their scarcity-based conditioning (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10), and learn to sing the abundance song (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), Godzilla won't be able to stop that biggest event from happening, and he knows it. That is the name of my game, and I plan to devote the rest of my life's spare time to building that choir and what can follow from building it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers). I don't have the time or interest for much else.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
13th September 2015, 20:47
Hi:

Yesterday, I was here (http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/winchester-mountain), pics attached. It is raining today, but yesterday was perfect. One pal responded to my vaccination posts with this link (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/03/15/the-doctor-who-beat-the-british-general-medical-council-by-proving-that-vaccines-arent-necessary-to-achieve-health/), showing that doctors who challenge the dogma sometimes win. In the USA, it is very rare. Usually, their careers or over, or worse. A post is coming today on my approach, who I am trying to reach, who I am not, and the ideological frameworks of the Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), and how different the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) will be.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
13th September 2015, 23:03
Hi Wade, I just want to say "thanks" for the post around vaccinations, I've been patiently waiting for them. You had covered a lot of the terrain in your Medical Racket essay, but I appreciated the latest writings as well :).

Wade Frazier
13th September 2015, 23:49
Hi Ilie:

You are most welcome. Many aspects of the medical racket echo that old saying about totalitarian systems, "That which is not forbidden is compulsory." The exact racket that Benjamin Rush warned us against (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rush) is with us today, and is growing more dictatorial all the time. Ralph Moss said it well, in that physicians who think that they can treat their patients as they see fit are toying with quackery (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#structural) as the medical racket defines it.

I presented what I have seen when looking into the issue of the germ theory, disease, and vaccination. Vaccination seems like more of the racketeering that I have seen many times, and I think it was in Tenpenny's book that she said that vaccination was a "loss leader" for the biomedical racket, as vaccinations in of themselves are not that lucrative, but create all sorts of conditions that the racket can continue to treat, keeping patients on a kind of squirrel wheel of lucrative dependence. Openly calling it a premeditated racket is really something to see, coming from an MD, but racketeering in medicine goes way back. James Carter was an MD, and he wrote Racketeering in Medicine (http://www.amazon.com/Racketeering-Medicine-The-Suppression-Alternatives/dp/187890132X), to show how the modern racket operates. So it is, in a world of scarcity.

Not long ago, I was in close proximity to a scientist who received a death threat from the biomedical racketeers, just as he was about to record an interview in which he would explain how an alternative cancer treatment worked. He canceled the interview. The racket is alive and well today. The bottom line is that both the problems with vaccination and alternatives are not given a fair hearing today.

Again, in some ways, the idea of purposely injecting disease organisms into people makes sense, but it is obviously an idea with a very shaky foundation, and free inquiry on the subject has definitely not happened. As I have stated (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1), maybe some muted form of the vaccination concept may survive when the racket is finally overthrown (or crumbles when FE makes all rackets obsolete), but I doubt it. We will see.

Just yesterday, I was talking with that friend (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#alternative), who is the only person I know who tried an alternative cancer treatment. She told me that her motivation was to not harm herself any more. If she was going to die, she was going to die without damaging herself more in the hope of getting well. What wisdom.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
14th September 2015, 00:25
For me this is more about your example of how an issue should be approached and less about what the issue is. Vaccination happens to be a good example because it is very charged, especially lately with the compulsory aspect of it.

When I read the medical essay I went straight into anger, throwing the baby out with bath water as they say.

Looking at all the available evidence, and not cherry picking what suits a pre determined conclusion and carefully ignoring data that may invalidate it's a balancing act and it is not always easy to do. Especially if one is angry :)

Wade Frazier
14th September 2015, 01:28
Hi Ilie:

Yes indeed, my star pupil, a big part of why I write the way I do is to show my approach and how I came to it. In some ways, it is unique and hard to reproduce. I don't want to call it idiosyncratic (although some might :) ), but I think it attempts a comprehensive approach, and most importantly, I try to give proper weight to the various factors that go into the situation. As with all rackets, the lion's share of the responsibility goes to people (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings) who refuse to take responsibility for their lives and their role on our planet, and they are easily herded by the racketeers (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving). Releasing judgment of it is not easy to do (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1), especially when that dynamic is a big reason why we are about to crash the planet (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth).

Yes, anger is one of the barriers to comprehension, as is fear, etc. You should have seen my writings before I got a professional editor back in 1999 – I slipped into ranting regularly, and realized (with my editor's help :) ) that I needed to let the material speak for itself, and people can add their own rants if they so desire. Mastering our emotions is one of our greatest challenges while on Earth, and all emotions are facets of love. As somebody who is emotionally centered (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading), it has been quite a challenge for me, but my journey has given me such great opportunities to work on it! :)

Best,

Wade

Dennis Leahy
14th September 2015, 01:49
Paul, you might want to cancel one of those Bird books on Naessens. They are the same book. The "Galieo" book was the original, and the "Persecution" book is just the second edition.

Aha - too late - but both are just a few dollars each - so it's little matter - not worth the special bother of disrupting orders already on the shipping docks.Perhaps I can buy the second one, if you haven't already found a home for it.

And, if it wasn't for you Wade, I wonder when (or if) I would have ever heard about Naessens and Rife. Thanks, brother.

ThePythonicCow
14th September 2015, 02:48
Perhaps I can buy the second one, if you haven't already found a home for it.
Too late ... see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=998067&viewfull=1#post998067).

Wade Frazier
14th September 2015, 03:27
Hi:

I have done this more than once, in ways, but will take a slightly different approach, to show how I came to the approach that I am taking today (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), and those I seek (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#why) and why. This is going to take more than one post.

I have written about it plenty, on how lonely my journey has been, and when I found fellow travelers such as Dennis or Brian or Mr. Professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), it eventually sank in what we had in common. I introduced the man who first interviewed me, in 2003, to Brian, and they became close friends, and he shot Brian's last major video statement (http://ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#oleary). That interviewer spent many years traveling the world, interviewing visionaries. He never met anybody quite like me, and I asked him what we all had in common, and he said high energy and high intelligence, and it went without saying that our hearts were in the right place. Without that, the rest truly would not matter (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69).

As I look back at my life, at the "raw materials" of my genetic inheritance (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102) and training (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm), as a member of history's most privileged demographic group, who was born and raised during the glory days of history's most richest and most powerful nation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar), and my harsh post-graduate welcome to the real world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), I can tell that my "friends" were setting me up for my momentous meeting with Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting). I wrote that series of vignettes over the summer, which gives the highlights of a long, slow process of disillusionment and awakening. When the dust cleared, four years later (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), my life was shattered and I was radicalized, and I would never see the world the same way again. The carnage that I witnessed in those days was prodigious, as lives were wrecked and prematurely ended (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death). Mr. Researcher was never the same again, after being driven into hiding (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#raid), and Mr. Professor's ruined life and early death devastated me (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey), but those were only some "highlights" of ruined lives that I witnessed. All the pretenders that abounded, either Godzilla's agents (1 (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm), 2 (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas), 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#deputy)), those duped by them (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#trio), or free-lance criminals who saw our efforts as opportunities for rape and plunder, were very enlightening to witness and bear the brunt of at times, and years of those events taught me my journey's most important lesson: personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). If you had told me what I was in for, when that voice told me to move to Seattle (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2), I would have refused to believe you, and for all that I survived, the betrayals and attacks of my friends and family hurt the most. Whistleblowers report the same thing (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#whistleblower1).

I cannot overemphasize the learning experience that those years gave me. In ways, my efforts since then have been motivated like Eugene Sledge's were (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#voice): I did not want surviving those events to go to waste. If not for those years, I likely would not have much worth saying. I have encountered others with my general interests who never went through the meat grinder, and they were all naïve and had unworkable ideas about how to make FE happen, and some that I might have harbored before I met Dennis. I was disabused of my delusions pretty quickly and harshly.

Those who want to "kick the tires" of my work are welcome to, and it is understandable. About the first thing that I did after becoming Dennis's partner was bring in a world-class expert (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) to assess what we were doing. Was it a pipe-dream? Not only did he not call our approach "impossible," like so many scientists did in those days, but he proposed his own approach, of marrying his heat engine with the panels from Dennis's heat pump (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#marry).

Dennis thought that I was as talented as Mr. Mentor was, but in the area of economics and finance, and if I am, my greatest contribution was seeing through the entire game, seeing how everything was mired in scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant). Once you develop an eye for it, you can see how the chains of scarcity condition and trap people's minds, and even what might be called aspirations of enlightenment get bogged down in the song of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10), and I have witnessed some of the greatest and most enlightened people I ever met or heard of not quite able to shake their scarcity-based conditioning. Brian and Dennis never quite shook it. I am the only American FE activist that I know of who got all of the red, white, and blue Kool-Aid out of his or her mouth. We are force-fed it from our cradles (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag), and hardly any Americans are even aware of the taste, they are so used to it.

Over the many years, I have witnessed thousands of reactions to the idea of FE. Heck, you can see many on my Avalon threads. I eventually developed categories of reaction (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10), which I have referred to ever since, as shorthand to deal with the ideas. I have yet to encounter a reaction that does not fit into one of those categories (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level0). I noticed three qualities in particular (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), which prevented people from being any use for helping make FE happen:


That endemic lack of personal integrity;
A lack of any experience attempting anything that would help wake them up to the larger reality;
Scientific illiteracy and other deficiencies that might be attributed to a lack of intelligence, but I think that it is the easiest of the three to overcome, and my work is specifically designed to remedy that deficiency; but without the first two qualities, the third cannot be attained, in my experience; people have had to care and be awakened in some way, to successfully digest my material.


A mystical awakening is one of those four qualities that I mentioned (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), but I am not sure how necessary it is. Everybody that I respected in the FE milieu had one, so it seems to be important, but I think that it can come later. Hal Fox got his after many years of being in the FE milieu. What a mystical awakening does, in the FE milieu, is allow people to discard the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) religion that I call the rationalist-materialist paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle). I have seen that religion particularly trap the "smart," who comprise the majority of the Level 3s (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3). Their conditioning is the most insidious of all, and by design, I think, because if they collectively woke up just a little, FE would be unstoppable. But they are generally the most hostile to the idea of FE, and bizarrely often consider FE to be the enemy. If I had not witnessed it many times, I would not have believed it. Several years of witnessing those reactions drove Brian to openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). I sadly understood his query.

Much more on these issues in coming posts, but for now, it is time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th September 2015, 13:08
Hi:

To continue the theme of the previous post, I began questioning my indoctrination when I graduated from college, and was laughed at (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing). As I look back, going "health nut" when I was 12 (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons) was the beginning of my awakening, and my mystical awakening when I was 16 (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva), a few months after my cultural awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe), began years of intense spiritual study, which provided a foundation so that I could survive the adventures ahead of me.

As I staggered from my home town (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), at age 32, newly married, with the rest of my life in ruins, I was ready for the works that I soon delved into, from advanced spiritual understandings to the work of Uncles Noam, Ed, and Howard (http://ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm), to Ralph McGehee (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm), David Stannard (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#stannard), and others like them, to alternative health ideas and thermodynamics (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#carnot). I had already had firsthand experience of the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience), but Ralph Hovnanian's work (http://ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#introduction), plus the paradigmatic challenges by people such as Naessens (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens) and Rife (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife), introduced me to alternative paradigms of life and medicine. The next year, I met Brian O (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), and the year after that, I was writing to Uncle Noam. I found my next career position (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#footnotes), was digging out of my financial abyss (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mortgage), recovering from my adventures, and was digesting that wide array of material.

In 1996, I stepped down at my job, planning to write a book, when Brian O decided to play the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere), just as Dennis began to raise hell again (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=422926&viewfull=1#post422926), and he finally coaxed me back into the saddle with him, after nearly a decade of trying. I nearly went to prison (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting) for my trouble, dealt with "skeptics (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends)" and other fun, and when I finally went home to Seattle in 1997, where I met Dennis more than a decade earlier (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting), I was certain that the inventor's/businessman's approach to FE would not work, and have not been interested in it ever since, although I am continually bombarded with news of the inventors of the hour, announcing that they are the Messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah) or Second Coming (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur), etc., as they are overwhelmed by FE's magnitude (http://ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion).

I then took several years off from my career to write what became my website, and I slowly relinquished the idea of writing a book, as I planned to take advantage of the Internet. In 2001, I began my close collaboration with Brian, which culminated in us founding NEM (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem), after I got to hear how Brian's ride as the Paul Revere of FE went (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions) and he began openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). Brian interacted with the tops of the world's political, academic, scientific, environmental, and "progressive" organizations, and all that he received was denial, fear, and derision (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) toward the idea of FE. Brian told me near the end of his life that as his pursuit of the truth became more ardent, he found himself further and further ostracized from his colleagues and from his astronaut (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), Ivy League (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after), political activist (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall), and "progressive" days. By his life's end, he was a voice in the wilderness, living in exile in South America, after fleeing the USA in fear of his life (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland).

I first heard of a functional FE device when I was told about Sparky Sweet's gizmo in 1990 (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet) (Joe Newman's device was far more equivocal in its operation). In the coming years, one of my close pals witnessed a little show (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) hosted by the so-called White Hats (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white), who I believe were from Godzilla's disenchanted faction (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal) and who do not want to live in a survival enclave on Mars (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mars).

Dennis was still at it, barnstorming the USA, trying to stir things up, but 1996-1997 was the peak of his efforts in the USA, although he raised hell clear until he was finally run out of the USA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&viewfull=1#post694872), similar to Brian. I am only hitting the highlights of a lifetime of experience and study, and I cannot overemphasize what a ride it was, and how instrumental it all was to the position that I am taking today. In 1999, I hired a professional editor and my writings improved so dramatically that one professional writer friend doubted that I was the author, and in 2002, I completed my site, which still comprises the bulk of my site as it stands today. Soon after finishing my site, as the war drums were beating for the invasion of Iraq (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), a pal called me a comprehensivist, I did not know what he meant, but saw the point after reading some of Bucky Fuller's work (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller). My work has been consciously comprehensive ever since, and in 2007, once my monster of a midlife crisis finally passed (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#midlife), I began the study that was specifically oriented toward writing my big essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm). The epochal approach of my work today did not really begin to take shape until about 2009 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#paradigm).

Ever since I wrote to Noam in 1992 and received a gracious reply that was more like a polite brush off, I began to see the problems that progressives had with the idea of FE. In the end, it was too far outside of their reality window. FE violated what is popularly called the "laws of physics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fe)," and organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) sounded too much like a "conspiracy theory." Most progressives have a conspiracy-phobia (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#parenti), while the right has a conspiracy-philia (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#why), and I eventually understood how unbalanced both perspectives were (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness), as those at both poles thought like victims instead of creators.

Immediately after reading some of Bucky's work, I encountered the Peak Oilers (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#fossil) and interacted with its leading voice (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction), who at least mentioned FE as a possible solution, even though he semi-ridiculed it (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg). I was on the inside of the situations that he wrote about, and was eager to introduce him to Brian and others on the inside, but I received an even more pointed brushoff than my other attempts to interest "progressives" in FE, and it was then that I began to see that those "progressives" were addicted to scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation). I had already witnessed people embrace certain death (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom) rather than question their indoctrination, and the progressive obsession with scarcity and austere "solutions (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity)" eventually became clear to me, and Fuller's work was seminal in helping my awareness reach the next level, as the paradigm that I had been groping toward for many years finally crystallized for me.

Not long after that, I was introduced to the Free Software Movement (http://ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm), saw some fellow travelers in them, and interacted with the father of the movement (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130), but once again, they were mired in scarcity, and the father of the movement in particular was stuck in the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) religion, the rationalist-materialist paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), while promoting a Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) ideological construct called The Commons, which they extended to intellectual efforts, not just the energy supply of Europe's peasantry (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gamelaw). Like the so-called radical left (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm), they are smart people, but stuck in the ideologies of their Epoch, with their lawyerly and even scientific arguments for a more equitable sharing of humanity's scarce economic pie. But I use nuggets of enlightenment where I find them, and use some of their work in mine, such as the idea of open-sourcing (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#utopia). I have been a computer geek since college, have performed information system design for a living (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#footnotes), and have been in high tech for 15 years of my career, working for not only software companies, but recently worked in a high-tech factory and likely will again next month. FE inventors who play the patenting (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent) or proprietary technology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#proprietary) games are defeated before they start, but usually have to learn that lesson the hard way, if they survive it.

The Internet is a next generation resource, and like Dennis's efforts (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis) or the Free Software Movement's, is a harbinger of the coming Epoch, if humanity can get over the hump (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sixth), which is by no means a foregone conclusion today, as humanity has its toes over the edge of the abyss (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth) and almost nobody knows or cares.

I am trying to help people think in Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) terms, and it has proven nearly impossible for people to do, as they drag the baggage of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) along with them, focusing on elite machinations (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness), laws, and other hacking-at-branches distractions from what is important. Even Dennis and Brian did it. Our scarcity-based conditioning is insidious and fed us from our cradles (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms), and I am going to make some posts on the ideological conditioning of each Epoch, so it is easier for people to understand, so that they can recognize them when they rear their heads, as people try to comprehend abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance), so they can let that baggage go. We can't drag it with us to where we need to go. I have witnessed so many attempts to drag along that baggage, while thinking that it is useful for manifesting the coming Epoch. It isn't, but it takes a great deal of time, experience, and sentience to see it. Most don't see it and don't want to, and will not begin to awaken (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink) until the means of abundance are delivered into their lives, and that is normal. There is no use in judging the sleeping masses (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1), as their entire beings are devoted to survival in a world of scarcity. The preludes to all Epoch Events were this way (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine), with next Epoch unimaginable. Almost nobody on Earth today has the right stuff to help the Fifth Epoch manifest (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), but those are the needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle) that I seek, and at this time, only a high-level conversation about my big essay is going to attract them to my effort, and that conversation has yet to really begin.

Time for chores, and these posts will likely take a few days.

Best,

Wade

Servant Limestone
14th September 2015, 18:09
Hi:

Just returned home on my first day of work, in my newest job, but I have to sleep right now since it's 2 am in the morning here. My work shift is 2 pm to 10 pm and I already returned home around 12:30 am but I still have to do some stuff. I am looking forward to write something more here, ironically when I have less time to do it. But then again, I think I am beginning to pick myself up anyway and grounding myself properly slowly but surely. :)

I just happened to write here again thanks to the fact I am currently going to learn how to deal with medical documents in my new job and I just want to say this in relation to the medical racket. It's really going to be interesting to read some of these documents along the way here in this job. :) Let's consider this part of my much needed scientific training, at least in expanding the scientific knowledge that I already possess, towards the possibility of writing something like what (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=967771&viewfull=1#post967771) I did before (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=967797&viewfull=1#post967797), but with more scientific stuff.

Time to sleep.

Thanks,

SL

Wade Frazier
14th September 2015, 19:07
Hi:

This will be a little series of posts that people such as Ilie want to see, on the relationship between energy and consciousness. I do it plenty in my big essay, but this will be a little more explicit and paradigmatic. As I have written plenty, I had it demonstrated to me (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown), very dramatically and irrefutably, that the materialistic model of consciousness that dominates mainstream science today is false. Five years later, Brian O had a similar experience performing the same exercise (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote), and like others who had such an experience, Brian was ruined as a mainstream scientist, as he could no longer drink the scientific establishment's Fourth Epochal religion's Kool-Aid (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), and he never really returned to the fold after that experience, although it took him the better part of a decade to fully leave. Many scientific careers were ruined after such scientists had their mystical awakening.

While mainstream science knows almost nothing at all about consciousness, I think it is safe to say that the brain is an organ of consciousness, and that organ probably first appeared in worms (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#worms), as a brain was needed to coordinate organs and movement. Movement takes a lot of energy to accomplish, and even prokaryotes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#prokaryote) moved, using their flagella, and some Ediacaran biota (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#edicaran) moved. Spriggina may have been the first animal with a brain, although Dickinsonia may not have needed one. But the rise of animals in the Cambrian Explosion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ecosystem) saw the rise of numerous organs, including brains, and the dance of predator and prey took on new levels in complex life's arms race (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#size2).

It is considered likely today that the ocean's oxygenation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#challenges) allowed for the rise of animals, as aerobic respiration (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#aerobic) allowed for much higher energy generation, to power larger animals. Braininess conferred an evolutionary advantage, and predators seemed to have the lead in encephalization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#encephalization), in order to outsmart their prey. Early land-based vertebrates were well along on the encephalization process by the Permian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalization#Evolution_of_the_EQ), and then the Permian Extinction hit (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#permianextinction), which cleared the field and set the stage for the rise of dinosaurs. Mammals were relatively brainy from the beginning (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mammalsdevelop), but spent the first 160 million years of their existence as marginal fringe dwellers, as archosaurs dominated Earth. Dinosaurs were encephalizing too, when they were in their turn wiped out by a major extinction event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cretaceousextinction), which set the stage for the rise of mammals.

Octopi are startlingly smart (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalopod_intelligence), and are Earth's most encephalized invertebrates. Birds are dinosaurs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#feathers), corvids are among Earths' smartest animals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvidae#Intelligence), and can even be better problem-solvers than great apes. Neural tissue is energetically expensive to maintain, so animals need a healthy energy surplus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus) to maintain it, and it is thought that energy-rich diets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalization_quotient#EQ_and_intelligence_in_mammals) are a prerequisite for mammalian encephalization.

When mammals began to take over the niches left behind by extinct archosaurs (crocodilians and birds were the only ones to survive), they began rising from an already high level of encephalization, and cetaceans reached great encephalization first, when modern cetaceans appeared on the scene about 35 million years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#whaleextinction), adapted to the newly cold oceans. At that time, on land, elephant ancestors and monkeys lived in Africa, and were likely the smartest land mammals. When Africa collided with Eurasia less than 20 million years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#africanmigration), elephant ancestors and apes quickly spread and thrived, and the elephant family comprised the most successful land mammals ever (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elephantsuccess), until the rise of humans. Like great apes and a bird, elephants have passed the mirror test (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mirrortest), which is quite a ways along the sentience curve.

Apes left and returned to Africa, and as Earth headed toward the current ice age (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ancestralape), African apes had some evolutionary splits (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpsplit) that led to the most momentous encephalization event in Earth's history (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpbrain), which led to humans. Above all else, it was an energy event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#braingrowth1), and there is a lively controversy today over how the human line acquired the energy to fuel its growing brain. It seems that tool-making in the human line, made feasible by bipedalism (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hand), led to greater food (AKA energy) acquisition, along with exploiting new biomes that their ape ancestors would not or could not take advantage of. Our tools made us.

Territoriality (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#territoriality) likely has a history of hundreds of millions of years, as animals protect their energy resources from other members of their species. As we can see in chimps today, they are smart enough to form hunting parties (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coalitionary) to murder their neighbors and take over their territory. This is unique animal behavior, other than humans doing it. Because chimps and humans do it, it is a safe bet that the human line between chimps and humans also did it, and the first migration of the human line past Africa (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#migrate1) may well have been due to population pressures, as it was easier to leave than stay and fight.

While evidence for stone tools goes back more than three million years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#stonetool1) in the human line, it was only with the appearance of the first truly erect member of the human line (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#homoerectus) that no longer slept in trees that stone tools appeared to be the result of craftsmanship (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#acheulean). They did not change much for more than a million years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#boring1), but the human line's brain kept growing, and by 500,000 years ago, relatively sophisticated weapons appeared (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#msa), as well as a new species of human (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#heidelbergensis) that was only a little more robust than Homo sapiens. The role of fire in the human journey is a source of controversy today, which will likely not be resolved anytime soon, but it was the seminal event in the rise of humans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1), and an energy event above all else.

Tools improved and brains grew, and about 200,000 years ago, our species appeared on the scene (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sapiens). But it was another 100,000 years before evidence of behavioral modernity began to appear. By 60,000 years ago, behavioral modernity was achieved (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap), and those humans quickly conquered Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#founderexit), driving all the easy energy to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#humancaused), as well as all other human species (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#climateneanderthal). The key event is thought today to be the mastery of language (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#language). All humans today are descended from those few thousand humans, and it is likely that all of Earth outside of sub-Saharan Africa was conquered by a founder group of only a few hundred people, which grew to millions about 50,000 years later.

From the first human-line's exit from Africa around two million years ago to the initial founder group's exit from Africa (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#founderexit), it seems to have been a relatively peaceful migration, as the energy surplus was plentiful. It was only as the easy meat went extinct and humans began staking out territories once again that anthropologists see a rise in inter-human violence (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#violence2).

The first religions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing) seem to be a reaction to warfare (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare1), and religious rituals were designed to achieve group cohesion, in order to prevail against their neighbors. You might say that it was the beginning of ideological indoctrination. The attitude toward out-groups (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) was killing the men on sight and stealing the fertile women if possible, although killing all members of the neighboring outgroup and stealing their territory (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#deathrate) seems to have been a common enough goal. It is the most violent epoch of the human journey, quite at variance to the peaceful savage meme (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hobbes) that dominated anthropology for generations.

The First Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1) likely began and ended violently, with a golden age interlude of moving to uninhabited lands. The Second Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2) saw the Golden Age of the Hunter-Gatherer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#huntergatherer), at least until all the easy meat was gone, and then it got violent as the easy energy days were over. Second Epoch humans had brains larger than today's, and they may well have had more raw mental horsepower, and modern observers still marvel over their artistic abilities, but being constantly on the move did not allow for the benefits that being sedentary conferred. During the times of the short-lived mammoth villages (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gravettian), anthropologist can see the rise of elites, which was a marked contrast to egalitarian hunter-gatherers.

Where the hunting was thin and certain plants could be domesticated, women began to grow crops (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacefulagriculture) and the Third Epoch began (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3), which was another peaceful golden age, with women having their highest status ever, before the Fourth Epoch's demographic transition (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic). But, as with prior energy practices, going back to the control of fire, it was not very sustainable, as deforestation and agriculture wrecks the ecosystems. The rise of ideology began in earnest with the rise of civilization, and that will be the subject of my next post.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

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Ilie Pandia
14th September 2015, 21:39
Hi Wade,

We probably think of different things when we say consciousness.

You wrote:

"I think it is safe to say that the brain is an organ of consciousness".

I am not exactly sure what you mean by that.

Reading the "Science and Psychic Phenomena" series by Chris Carter indicated to me that consciousness does not need a brain in order to exist and function. Your own interactions with Mr. Professor indicate that his awareness is still "active" in some state that you could contact. I am sure you understand what I mean.

I would say that consciousness does need a brain organ to express and manifest itself in a body (be it human or otherwise). But the qualities and attributes of the body do not necessarily indicate the qualities and attributes of the consciousness expressing itself through that body. A less complex brain will allow for less complex expressions than say a much more sophisticated brain. And likely the cetacean brain allows for expressions that may very well be outside of the human design brain. But that does not mean that the awareness behind the two has the same limitations imposed on it.

To use the radio analogy, a poor reception can mean the signal is messed up, but it usually it means there is a problem at the receiver's end. An old black and white TV set will never "comprehend" the colors that the new TVs rave about. But the colors are there.

So, there is an interesting question here: when not animating a body, what form of energy does the consciousness uses to express itself and where does that energy come from?

This is why I tend to believe that consciousness/awareness predates the expressions we are currently seeing on this planet. Yes, we are seeing better and better receivers/brains/organisms, but it is likely that the "signal" was complex to start with and it may be extremely complex still, but simply out of what our brains can "channel" at this point. And yes, more complex receivers require more energy to build and to maintain as any electronics engineer can confirm.

Consciousness is not necessarily human, and does not necessarily need this Planet (or this Universe, for that matter) in order to express itself. In that sense, Free Energy would allow for a much richer experience here, but it is not at all required for Consciousness to continue its journey.

I think you did acknowledge a couple of times that in the "Grand Scheme" whether we make it this time or we blow ourselves up (as Michael suggests a third of ensouled species do), while crucial for the future of the Human Species is a non-Event for Consciousness in general. Probably this is why mystics say that your state of Consciousness is what matters most and the rest is secondary.

This does not mean that everyone must become enlightened before we have Free Energy, but it may mean that a mystical awakening is required for your choir members, even if you doubt that at this point. A minimum of mystical awakening is also required to muster some personal integrity as the glimpses of the "higher perspective" will get you free of the grip of fear long enough to see a bigger picture. I think there is no accident that the scientists you have the most regard of where also mystics.

There is also the "danger" of going off into the clouds as to be no Earthly good as you mention. But that, as far as Consciousness is concerned, may not really be a problem. I assume that some of the Level 19 masters that you mention are like that. They may not help because there is no longer their journey to help, they know that we will eventually get it, even it may takes a few blow ups before we do.

And a metaphor.

Two "Computer Sapiens" are chatting in the Great Network.

C1: There is strong evidence to suggest that our CPUs have started to evolve from the early diode! That took a couple of decades until the transistor made an appearance! In computer frequency that is almost an eternity!

C2: OK...

C1: And next it was the old simple CPU. Slow, serial, but still some orders of magnitudes more complex than the transistors based logic circuitry. And that CPU started to eat up a lot of power. Oh, the Simple CPU could do things that the transistor would not comprehend.

C1: Next we had the "Pentium" and then the multi core CPUs and then that evolved into todays quantum-hyper-core that lead to the sentient "Computer Sapiens". All these jumps in performance and complexity required a lot of energy and were dependent on the energy surplus, you see... Oscillating at such high frequencies and maintaining structural integrity and data cohesion is a huge energy drain. Cut the flow for a nano-second and you're gone into the Shutdown...

C2: Very interesting!

C1: Yes! and the reason we are stuck now and actually experiencing a drop in performance is because we no longer have energy surplus. In fact, we are about to run out! I tell you, energy is everything, and without it... we will go the way of the TV! No CPU for us... Heck we could even go back to the "Pre TV" era!

C2: Well... I get that, but have you heard of "The programmer"?

C1: Yes, The Programmer made an appearance with the first quantum-core. It may have been present before, in more simple CPUs, but that is hard to tell... There simply was not enough energy to run anything complex back then...

C1: Some "Computer Mystics" claim that The Programmer predates us. That it guided our first steps in development. The Programmer is very smart, but could not do much with the simple CPUs other that pave the way for more complex ones.

C2: That is very subjective and cannot be proven. And if we run out of energy, Programmer or no Programmer we are facing the BIG SHUT DOWN! And then what?

C1: I was just thinking that if we could get in touch with the Programmer it would help us with our designs, it may inspire us to change our ways and adopt that new Source Field that the "Fringe Computer" is raving about...

C2: That may very well be, but my computations show we don't have time for that. The "Central Computer" is crushing the system too fast! So I am trying a different approach. I want to write a Power (Hyper)Point to show on The Network our dependency on Energy. That will refocus our computational efforts in the right direction!

C1: What about C3? Sometimes it contacts me from "The Beyond Shutdown" and sends me packets of data. That shows its Algorithm is still running somewhere! What energy do you figure it uses? And what CPU? The one in had in The Network has long been recycled...

C2: Hm... that's an interesting computation you pose....

Wade Frazier
14th September 2015, 22:23
Cute post, Ilie. By "organ of consciousness," I mean that animal consciousness is expressed through that organ. Simple idea, I think. The liver is not the organ of an organism's consciousness, nor are our lungs or kidneys. The growing brain is what has allowed more complex consciousness to be expressed here, from the first animals to us.

The only other ensouled (AKA sentient) "species" on Earth is cetaceans, with similar high encephalization, at least according to Michael (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael), and my experience (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#dolphins) has been that they are sentient, as well as what pals have experienced.

As Michael notes with his mid-causal dispassion, if humanity makes Earth uninhabitable by no animal more sentient than arthropods, we will "only" incarnate into another life form in another star system to finish our soul cycle, and it will likely be one that cannot manipulate its environment and do it again. But from the perspective of the species that does that, there is no "only" about it, but it is a catastrophe, not only for the species, but the planet that it does that to. Nothing like living in physical reality to drive home that point. That kind of event is a huge setback for those ensouled species, but yes, they will "only" select a new lifeform to continue, if they are fortunate enough to find a planet that will take them. As one channeled pal said, "Take joy in being, for gravity is a rare opportunity." What we do here matters in the bigger picture, in ways that we really cannot comprehend.

Again, sources that I respect say that we are here for very specific reasons, mainly growing our consciousness, and the "opportunity" provided by physical reality is like no other for "fast" growth, with its rigors. There are consequences for coming here and "failing," and a lot of mystical material says that somebody more "accomplished" than Max (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell) will get stuck there, and when the soul group leaves, that being will lose its sentience and become one of the "flies of hell." It is apparently a real hazard of choosing the sentient path. True? Beats me, but I think that the sowing and reaping concept is very valid.

I have seen so-called enlightened sources say that whatever we choose is irrelevant, as all go through the "machine," but those I respect the most say that the power is in the present, and it is what we choose to do, now, that is important, and that is why we are here. If we can embrace love, we learn the lesson were came here for, and yes, a mystical awakening helps people understand that.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
14th September 2015, 22:43
Thanks Wade, I can definetly go with that :).

Wade Frazier
15th September 2015, 04:19
Hi:

On to the Third Epoch. When you get down to it, chimps practice the hunter-gatherer lifestyle, without sophisticated stone tools or the benefit of fire. The human-line migrants from Africa around two millions years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#migrate1) practiced the hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and the debate is when fire was controlled (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1). Homo sapiens arrived on the scene about 200,000 years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sapiens), and behaviorally modern humans appeared about 60,000 years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap). Other than the first mammoth villages while the mammoths lasted (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gravettian), the first permanently sedentary members of the human line appeared less than 14,000 years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kebaran), and the first city appeared less than 8,000 years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sumer). However you want to measure it, from two million years ago or 200,000 years ago or 60,000 years ago, civilization is a very new invention, as far as the human journey goes, but the changes it brought, like the other Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine), were so radical that the humans living before the event could not have imagined the event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine3) or what it would lead to.

Urbanity is new, but it is easy to think that it is somehow humanity's natural state or its greatest achievement. Indeed, cities gave rise to many features of today's humanity that some even call human "nature." Along with cities came professions, elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear), classes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cayonu), literacy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#writing), metallurgy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#plow), mathematics, monumental architecture, mass warfare (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare), the wheel (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wheel), sailboat (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sailboat1), and other technologies, and other innovations that are still with us today. Professions are considered the most important outcome of urbanity (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions), as people could live off of the society's energy surplus to learn new skills. Shamans gave way to a professional priesthood, which waged war against the ancient hunter-gather religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing1) and has been fighting off "ecstatic" religions ever since. Rock concerts tap into some very primeval urges. From the beginning, the priesthoods entered into a Faustian deal with the elite, conferring divine status to them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#divinity). Monumental architecture was a form of elite "display (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#display1)," and the people who built the early monumental architecture likely did it from a sense of religious obligation, not as slaves, which also appeared with the rise of sedentary societies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slaverybeginning).

The greatest threat to all ruling classes is those they rule, and from the beginning, involved rituals and ideological indoctrination (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#indoctrination1), as well as barbaric displays of power (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#legitimacy) and other games attended the rise of all elites. To this day, people close to me think they are going to some fiery hell, because they somehow did not quite measure up to some ideological standard that was drummed into their heads from a young age.

Cities existed because of the benefits that they conferred to the masses, but the agricultural surplus that could sustain them was thin (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#conflict), and all early civilizations collapsed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses), as they were never energetically sustainable, as they largely relied on deforestation and agriculture on denuded soils. Because the surplus was so thin, only a small non-agricultural class could exist, which was largely confined to elites, priests, soldiers, and craftsman. Conscripting peasants into the military (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#conscription) has been a universal practice to this day, and draft dodging was an early art form.

Literacy was always initially confined to the elite (and their enabling priesthoods), as all early writings were elite accounting and tales of elite magnificence. Later, literacy was used to exchange information and ideas, and was not merely confined to justifying the position of the elite or tallying their loot.

Much more to write, but it is time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
15th September 2015, 16:01
Hi:

To make it clear, civilization would not have been possible without a large and stable energy supply. Agriculture supplied that (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#agciv). Earth's carrying capacity went up by a factor of about 200 in the Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3). Today's Japanese rice farmers can get 10,000 more times as much energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ricefarmer) from a piece of land as a Cro-Magnon hunter gatherer could (the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) "only" raised it by another 50 times, in the rice farmer example, while Earth's population "only" increased by a factor of 7 so far in the Fourth Epoch, and at least 10 is predicted). Those dynamics have also hastened the Sixth Mass Extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sixth1), as humanity conquered and commandeered all ecosystems, and those agricultural practices have never been sustainable (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#unsustainable1), especially for early civilizations.

Humans have almost never thought past their immediate self-interest, and from the earliest civilizations to today's (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert) they all blithely burned through their energy supplies, with only lone voices in the wilderness, here (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#greekconservation) and there (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#romanconservation), mentioning the obvious trends. So, energy and consciousness (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#consciousness), as far as humanity has been concerned, has had a fitful relationship, as conscious stewardship of energy supplies has never happened on any significant scale in any civilization. This brings up Brian O's question of whether humanity is a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience), and that recent article (https://orionmagazine.org/article/state-of-the-species/) that I mentioned likened humanity to just one more organism that bred to the energy supply's limits when it could, burned through it, and the inevitable collapse and extinction always followed. Heinberg (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm) made a similar observation in his The Party's Over, and it is an understandable sentiment.

The human delusion of "there is always more where that came from" has been called cornucopianism and exuberance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance). I have seen scientists argue that that "mentality" is hardwired into humans, just like all animals, and to expect that humanity would display sentience and an understanding of energetic limits is asking too much. Are we no different from those petri dish experiments that explode then collapse, and my succinct statement on the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct) is really nothing more than showing how humanity is just clever enough to tap a new energy source, but not clever enough to not plunder it to exhaustion? Maybe so, and there is no stopping humanity from hitting the brick wall that looms largely (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), just ahead. But if I really believed that, I would not have devoted my life to preventing it. :)

Language is considered humanity's first "Internet," as ideas and information could be communicated like never before. Attaining the mastery of language (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#language) probably also meant that humanity had new ideas to communicate. The spread of stone tool technology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#stonetool1) and the control of fire (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1) likely happened via observation, just as the human line had learned for millions of years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpculture2). As with many events in the journey of life on Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#keyevents1), I strongly suspect that stone tool technology and the control of fire were learned once, and then spread.

The city was a new phenomenon, and one of its primary virtues, other than concentrating energy so that a relative few could live off the surplus, was making it easy to communicate ideas and information, as large numbers of people were in daily contact. That had never happened before in the human journey. Sumer became the first literate civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#writing) about 5,000 years ago, and literacy became a great innovation for communicating information and ideas, and freed humans from the limitations of oral communication and teaching through demonstration. Writing obviously has its limitations, but the advantages were so great that all pristine civilizations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1) but South America's invented it, independently, and South America's had the quipu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quipu), which was an elite accounting device. Literacy is when knowledge began compounding, and it was not that long before civilizations such as Classic Greece's arose (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#classicgreece), with the beginnings of what could be called a scientific approach. Of course, Athens's civilization ran out of energy and collapsed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#greekconservation), too. :)

Along with information that could be called the stirrings of a scientific approach, early writings could be counted on to glorify the elite. Heck, the USA is literally a textbook case of that, founded on fairy tales (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#weems), and when the fairy tales were challenged, the story-tellers excused it with the rationale that a new nation needed its own elite fairy tales, not Europe's. I have written about the fairy tales about Pasteur (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#farley) in microbiology textbooks (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#microbiology), so this is an ancient problem that is still with us. The Old Testament is a political document, to help hold together a small state wedged between competing empires. It is mostly a series of fairy tales (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tales), with a little fact and a lot of fiction. But the greatest human I ever knew or heard of (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany) thinks that that Bible is the one and only word of God, and its pages are filled with the literal truth. This Third Epoch literalism is alive and well, and even sober works of science and history (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#zinn) regularly resort to telling fairy tales. Why? In my experience, it was to imbue people with elite-serving ideologies, and they all worked in the same basic fashion:


They were scarcity based (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant);
They were egocentric, in that believing in them conferred economic and egocentric benefits;
They made out-groups fair game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup);
Anybody who failed to bend the knee to the dominant ideology (and the elites who benefitted from believing them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#legitimacy)) would be punished in some way, from burning at the stake (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#inquisition) to less violent measures, to enforce in-group "cohesion."


All civilizations had those practices, and do to this day, in one form or another. When the English civil wars made it so that the elite could not simply rule through violence (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bernays), the science of controlling what people thought made its rise along with the Industrial Revolution, and by the 20th century, controlling what people thought had become a science, of course, under elite control (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ludlow). Professions such as economics are built on fake sciences that were designed from the beginning to serve elite interests (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), and do to this day.

Time for chores, and posts on these subjects will keep coming this week.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
15th September 2015, 19:22
Hi:

Between chores, and here is a post that is a little break from the Epochs. Why do I do what I do? Writing like a madman, sacrificing my career, repeatedly passing up opportunities for millions of dollars, etc.? In short, I want to live in this world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), or live to see it heading there, and I don’t want it to go this way (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), for many reasons, one of which is that if it does, our souls are going to travel a long, dark road to our redemption (and I may be writing from experience (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#atlantis)). Nobody on the planet today will escape responsibility for their actions, or their inaction. All paths lead back to the godhead, in one way or another. Some choose evil paths (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love), to finally realize their folly, while other choose the path of light and love (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest), while most just kind of shuffle along (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving), faking it. All paths are valid, and we all reap what we sow. Those who master their dark path lessons can "graduate" to new levels of the game, and can even get a planet to themselves, where nobody dares pick up the soap. From the Tao's perspective (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#infinite), it is all good, and we are all one (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#nature). As Seth (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth) once said, the purpose of suffering is to learn how to avoid suffering. On these paths of inquiry, there is a great deal of delusion, deception, and the like, and regarding New Age/conspiracist forums and similar venues, I say, "Beware of airy-fairy, New Age mind-f**k." I have seen it many times, usually spouted by clever men (http://ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical), with their mystical haircuts and other accoutrements, building their harems, on the talk circuit, etc.

After carrying the spears of the best of the best (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) for many years, I decided to take an approach that I had not seen tried before. Brian and Dennis immediately recognized it as something different (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852). They were the only people whose opinions I really respected on the issue, as they had the virtue of experience in this milieu. None of the "bright idea" people that I hear from have any experience in the milieu, and they invariably advocate something that has been tried literally thousands of times before (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches). I have walked and seen the paths of failure for many years, usually life-risking, life-wrecking, and life-ending failure, and have no desire to do it again, and I am doing my best to keep newbies away from the danger zones.

As my Avalon thread nears a million views, some thousands of people have dipped into it now and then, and some read it regularly. Only they know why they read it, but my intent behind my public forum writing is to not only have a place where aspiring choir members can come and try out their voices, but to provide an anchor for those who need it, a brief respite from the song of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10) that blares from all directions on Earth today, which has always blasted, but it was arguably a little quieter during the few golden ages of relative energy abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#goldenages), and I grew up in the greatest one of all (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar). I have seen what relative abundance does, and I have witnessed the grind of scarcity and poverty (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928). I know which one I choose.

What I have seen, more times than I can count, is people coming to me, grinding the axes of their scarcity-based perspectives, and they hack at branches and want to enlist my aid. They think that we need to tackle Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) (or sneak past him (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level7)), get some laws changed, support a political candidate, join some movement that is tackling the elite, whether it is corporations or Bill Gates, or somehow whip up a mass movement, proselytize their social circles (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), and so on. My experience is that none of those people yet understand what I am attempting, so I write on my subject this way, then that, hoping that for those who are really trying to understand, that I can frame it in a way so that comprehension dawns on them. Not many want to understand, anyway, but I seek those who do.

I recently wrote a series of posts on the medical racket and vaccination (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=996416&viewfull=1#post996416), and that presentation might help people better understand my FE approach. Pleomorphic theory is at variance with the germ theory, in that internal dynamics, not invasion by "germs," is more important for one's health. Live healthily, and you will not be susceptible to disease. Fail to live healthily, and all manner of degenerative and infectious disease will be your companion. The germ theory sees us as victims of powerful agents (like conspiracism does (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism)), while pleomorphic theory makes us the masters of our destiny. If you think about those cells that "go rogue," they took matters into their own "hands" because the organism that they were part of was not properly caring for them, so instead of going quietly into programmed cell death (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#freeradicals), they became intercellular brigands, plundering their neighbors and not only not performing any useful function for the organism, but they were actively killing it, like psychopaths in societies. In the big picture, maybe such "psychopaths" really were providing a useful function, of weeding out those who did not play the life game properly. IMO, focusing on the psychopaths, particularly with punitive measures, is how victims think (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness). Creators have a different approach, and that has always been the approach that I have advocated (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest) for making FE happen. As Brian O said, combined positive intention (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gcfocus) is the only path worth pursuing.

Believe me, if I heard somebody out there, truly singing the song, I would want to go sing with them, but they are not out there. Ilie is in training, as are some others, but nobody in the FE milieu has hit the notes, but Brian was the closest that I heard to my own voice, which is why we did what we did together (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#intro). Few outside the field have the foggiest idea what the FE pursuit entails, so this is a lonely path, but somebody has to walk it. I look forward to the day when I no longer have to do it, and the Muppet Movie ending is fine by me. :)

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 02:03
Hi:

I previously mentioned (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=999114&viewfull=1#post999114) the Faustian deal that the priesthood made with the elite (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#divinity), conferring divine status to them, which is how they got people to erect monuments to the elite without being forced to, as such labors were part of their religious duties. That was all sordid enough, but paled next to the ideologies that justified slavery, warfare (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare), and other evils. The first written laws that we know of (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#laws) reflected the awesome barbarity of those times. The Old Testament is filled with tales of genocide.

I remember reading an interview with Uncle Noam in which the interviewer quoted an activist who said that one of the greatest weapons against slaves was the slaves' own minds, and Noam said that that was a very important idea. If you can get people to enslave themselves and stay there, the enslaver's job is easy. That dynamic is related to why people embrace certain death (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom) rather than question their conditioning. As I noted at the beginning of my "Lies I was Raised With (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm)" essay, it was not that everybody was in on the joke but me, but that they were lies universally believed and proliferated by teachers and other authority figures, and formed the bedrock of the in-group (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) ideologies, and most will go to their graves and never question it, and ostracize anybody who does. That is all part of why I say that we do almost all of Godzilla's (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) work for him, and this human penchant goes way back, and is easily seen in the earliest civilizations.

Mann's 1493 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=996154&viewfull=1#post996154), while a prodigious effort, was not something that I completely agreed with. He portrayed the abolition of slavery as simply something whose time had come, as the world's people were convinced of its barbarity by moral arguments, and abolished it. Then why was it only a Third Epoch institution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slaveryend)? Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were smart men. Why could they not see the institution as evil? Because they had a conflict of interest. They were economically dependent on their slaves, just like all Antebellum aristocrats were. Slavery was an economic institution above all else, and when industrialization began to make slavery uneconomical, the institution ended, not because the entire world suddenly grew a conscience out of nowhere, beguiled by abolitionist arguments.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
16th September 2015, 14:16
HI Wade,

Only just caught up on your vaccination posts yesterday.


Post #5622 : "Not long after reading Bird's book, I was getting it into the hands of AIDS patients, as Naessens's treatment had reversed AIDS when AIDS was considered a death sentence..." [...] "Rappoport said that the hit men for the medical racket are far more vicious and ruthless than those for the energy racket."


Post #5623 : "...the editor of the world's leading medical journal recently stated that up to half of scientific research (read "medical research") is worthless due to conflicts of interest..." […] "The pleomorphic dynamics that Naessens documented are common to all degenerative diseases that he studied, and they all responded to the same treatment. What is disease? What is its cause? Can it be remedied? Prevented?"

This link you added was telling:

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1/fulltext?rss%3Dye

Your earlier comment prompted me last night to, amongst other searches, a look at Jon Rappoport's books (I've appreciated some of his shorter writings in the past) one of which is AIDS Inc from 2003. Coincidentally today on an unrelated news site someone linked to this post of his, titled 'Virus fakery: my conversation with a virologist' :

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/virus-fakery-my-conversation-with-a-virologist/

In it he recalls an off-the-record conversation with a well-known/respected virologist who discussed with him how there were difficulties in “making an absolute decision about a virus as the cause of a disease,” but refused to go on record about various disputes over the shaky science, and Rappoport saw his implication being that careers were on the line. He notes how the man was an orthodox scientist with no interest in unconventional or inherently rebellious perspectives, but was readily admitting that the whole AIDS research establishment was proceeding on a lack of proof. Rappoport also mentions speaking with a White House policy analyst in 1987 who commented on the heated politics and scientific disputes around AIDS, some of which the analyst himself found offensive.

Even your lancet link includes the author's comment on how those from government agencies (attending the symposium he references) adamantly wished not to be quoted.

So it seems, to anyone who does even moderate investigation, both the scientific and political community has a good share of educated / intelligent / establishment voices who question the status quo, though I'm not positing a majority. Still, hardly 'conspiracist' territory.

It really would be amazing to live in an FE world where scientists have the energy means to manufacture and utilise their own equipment (be it Naessens-style microscopes or tech that's even further advanced) without having to kowtow to companies' agendas just for a pay cheque.

I've ordered Bird's Persecution and Trial of Naessens. Thanks (to Paul as well) for the prompt.

And thanks Ilie for your Computer Sapiens tale in post #5658. Gave me my geek giggle for the day. You might enjoy this offering from Rappoport, which also relates to what Wade noted in his last post about how, “If you can get people to enslave themselves and stay there, the enslaver's job is easy.” :

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/robots-a-play-in-one-brief-act/

Your other recent point Wade, about how politicians finally sided with abolitionists when they felt it was economically affordable, really highlights the bizarre nature of blindly pursuing artificial intelligence – i.e. to abolish slavery because it's no longer deemed necessary, and then enslave ourselves differently because we hadn't properly utilised our full potential. It may echo the story of the bird who returned to its cage even after it was freed, which Ilie relayed in a post on another thread. How drawn to a new enslavement most people would be if they weren't oppressed by a culture of censorship and misinformation, is the question we're all aware of – the cause being circumstance rather than our 'nature.'

Of course, if it is elites who predominantly fund/promote an AI agenda, they might only see the enslavement affecting the free will/quality of life of those they deemed to be of lower classes - until and unless it had unforeseen repercussions for them, possibly more complex than the karmic implications that elites of old may have invited (by gladly being slave owners and traders.) It relates to what was discussed recently, about an advanced, considerate spiritual perspective meaning we view others as an aspect of self. I'm relating that philosophy to living, breathing beings (from humans to forests.)

To elaborate, I'm still of the opinion that a lot of debate over how 'equal' to humans AI might be, is altered if the AI is confined to a small, square unit, rather than housed in a human-looking/sounding case – and the AI 'rights' debate may be more connected to the property rights and control agendas of corporations/authorities who would purchase and implement AI robots. If we have a culture where differing forms of consciousness (such as ghosts, astral and energy bodies, inter-dimensional beings etc) are commonly accepted and/or viewed, that might make the philosophical debate more interesting. But questioning what an AI's 'rights' should be, before we've more deeply explored what our own potential is, still (for me) remains an issue. In other words, I feel I 'have the right' to see the potential of humanity at its most heart-centred, psychic and sentient, before we attempt to replicate what some currently consider the 'best of us' with AI. :)

Ilie's dialogue (between operating systems) also reminded me of the Spike Jonze film Her, which was more enjoyable than I expected (being cautious of how AI is often addressed in the mainstream), even though I'd enjoyed other feature films by Jonze. Her has some poignant moments including an amusing segment relating to philosopher Alan Watts, and with its humour manages to subtly touch on areas that more serious (and still worthwhile) films like Ex Machina might have struggled with.

Interestingly, Alex Garland (Ex Machina's writer/director) made some comments in a video that, whilst an intelligent interview, had me question the nature of his thinking. He commented that we were bound for extinction and that AI had a positive potential of utilising the best of us and outliving us as a kind of natural descendent, which seemed to express a lack of any profound consideration for any psychic/spiritual context to our existence, possibly because he didn't consider it provable or within his realms of experience. But then he is, admittedly, an atheist.

Not meaning to go off topic, but the relevance of FE to helping form a truly free society, where individuals can create their own culture as opposed to being herded by corporate and mainstream agendas that encourage a materialist outlook, and where the subsequently more relaxed state is conducive to psychic and spiritual development, is ever present.

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 15:36
Hi Melinda:

I am in the middle of writing another epoch/energy/consciousness post, but briefly, yes, when science gets embroiled in politics, which always has an underlying economic basis, then the "science" that comes out of it will be distorted, even inverted, and serve the vested interests. I have written at length about the grotesqueries of the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm) and won't belabor them here, but I will tell a little Rappoport anecdote.

Jon was Brian O's buddy, and the first time that I heard of Jon was in my note-trading session with Brian, after we were nearly run out of town (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#governor) because we tried to interest California's governor in FE, when Brian was telling me about his ride as the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions) (which he finished with asking whether humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience)) and I was telling him about my friend's exotic technology show (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) and my close relative who was a CIA contract agent (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia). Brian was more impressed with my relative's story than that friend's technology show, as it seemed like old hat to him.

During our note-trading session, Brian talked about how the AIDS epidemic in Africa was probably some kind of genocidal eugenics experiment, and I think that is when I first heard of Rappoport, as Brian got that from Jon, I believe. Brian would later quote Jon in his books, about how seven cartels run the world economy (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc), and when I heard that from Brian, I was certainly not surprised, but I first heard it via Jon. Brian also said that Jon noted that the hit men for the medical racket were more violent and ruthless than those from the energy racket, and my experience also told me that that was an accurate assessment. The energy racketeers can dangle some pretty big carrots (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make) before they go to the stick, but in the medical racket, it is all stick. I have not heard of trying to buy out alternative treatments (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hoxsey) since the Fishbein days (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein). By the time that Brian and I had our note trading session, the original draft of my medical racket essay was two years old, and I did not revise it for our note-trading sessions, but it only confirmed what I already knew.

Because the energy issue is Godzilla's whole ballgame, more resources and sophistication is devoted to keeping that genie in the bottle than for any other racket. Jon is one of the good guys.

Best,

Wade

LesliesFarm
16th September 2015, 16:34
Congratulations, Wade, for taking control of your own health. I have done that and have also helped others. Anyone who really wants to live and be well must go through this process. Part of the healing of people must be the healing of the Earth. Providing a healthy diet to all of our people is only possible if we have restored our environment - depleted soil = deplete food. Unfortunately, this cannot be done without the participation of the populace. So, it always comes down to awakening and educating the sleeping people. My expertise is in gardening, farming and land restoration. We have the knowledge and ability to do astounding things to transform the planet, but that doesn't happen unless a shift occurs. There is talk of a major disclosure of suppressed information. This would shift enough people to make real change, but in the meantime, we must awaken as many as possible. I would rather garden. Instead my fate is to be written off as a "conspiracy theorist" or a lunatic and sustained only by those who listen........a little.

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 16:38
Hi:

Written history began in the Third Epoch, so historians have something to work with. Any time before that is the province of scientists. Scientists have also shed a great deal of light on Third Epoch events, such as determining that the Old Testament is largely comprised of fictional events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#tales), with some likely facts here and there that served as the basis for grand embellishments and fabrications by the day's priesthood. For centuries, historians argued over why civilizations collapsed, but when scientists got involved, they found that the civilizations ran out of energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#collapse1).

What the Old Testament does not lie about, however, is the brutality of early Fertile Crescent civilizations. Slaughtering entire cities, while perhaps sparing fertile women and enslaving others, after maiming them, was standard practice. When Rome invented the imperial entertainment of forcing people to murder each other (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gladiators), it was not far out of step with the times. Genocidal gold mining practices went back to the Egyptians (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#egyptold), and polities such as Carthage and Rome only continued them.

But none of those civilizations would have been possible without the energy surplus provided by agriculture (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#agciv). The only early civilization with relatively sustainable agricultural practices was Egypt's (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nile1), which relied on the silt of the Nile's annual flood. The silt was largely from upriver deforestation in the highlands of Ethiopia and vicinity, so it was not that sustainable. But its relative sustainability made it the prize of numerous civilizations that conquered Egypt and put it under tribute, Rome most infamously. The Mediterranean climate and vegetation is an arid semi-desert, but it was all lushly forested before the rise of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#deforestation1). Even the peoples of the time were astonished to find out how much it had changed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#forestsurprise).

I have written that the brain is the organ of consciousness. The human brain is huge (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpbrain) and an energy hog, and growing it was an energy event above all else (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#braingrowth1), so the arrival of human consciousness was primarily an energy event. Behaviorally modern humans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap) quickly conquered Earth when they left Africa (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#founderexit), and Earth's large animals fueled that expansion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#australianmegafauna). In the first of many unsustainable energy events, humans drove nearly all of those big animals to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#humancaused). In a few places on Earth, the big animals were gone and women domesticated plants, as an adjunct to their gathering duties, which led to the first civilizations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1). There was a brief interlude when women brought in more calories than men, their status consequently rose, and those horticultural societies often became matrilineal and broke up the male gangs, which had been a constant in the human line for at least ten million years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patrilineal1), and those were the most peaceful pre-industrial societies. Bonobos achieved something similar (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1) about a million years ago. Women's status declined again (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#womenstatus1) as civilizations formed.

Agriculture increased Earth's human carrying capacity by more than a hundred times (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#population1), and allowed people to become sedentary, and those two energy dynamics made civilization possible. The energy surplus also allowed for the development of professions and new skills that were not possible to develop under the hunter-gatherer political-economy. Nearly everything about civilization was made possible by the energy provided by agriculture. Of course, with partial exceptions such as Egypt, those early civilizations were not sustainable, being dependent on deforestation and agriculture (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycivilizations) on denuded soils, and they all eventually collapsed. Many of those ruins sit in their self-made deserts today (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses), while others, such as the Mayans', were reclaimed by the forest, when it could recover. The grazing herds of Fertile Crescent peoples often ensured that the forests could not recover.

With each Epoch, societal consciousness radically changed. The first led to the human brain (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chimpbrain), the second led to the mastery of language (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#language), the conquest of Earth, and the first religions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing), and the third led to civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1) and its many wonders. Rural hayseeds stumbling around in awe in cities goes back to the first civilizations, and monumental architecture, designed to overawe them, also goes back to the beginning. Religion radically changed in the Third Epoch, as the professional priesthood waged war against the hunter-gatherer religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing1), and the rise of ideological indoctrination accompanied the rise of civilization, largely to accept the obviously unfair economic system, with elites on top and slaves at the bottom. The energy surplus was thin, so not many could enjoy that surplus, and pre-industrial civilizations were all notable for their social rigidity. There was not enough energy surplus to fund freedom. Slavery did not vanish as an institution until the rising standards of living afforded by industrialization, and even in Europe, which conquered and enslaved the world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sailboat2), using history's greatest energy technologies to that time, slavery largely disappeared during the rising standards of living which accompanied the Medieval Warming Period (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wmp1).

The Classic Greeks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#classicgreece) invented the first stirrings of what could be called a scientific approach, and while medieval Europe banned the Greek teachings, they eagerly used their technology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#watermill1). When Greek teachings were reintroduced to Europe (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#toledo) due to the conquest of Islamic civilizations, Europe began its rise to dominance and the Fourth Epoch. The Fourth Epoch began when an imperial contender turned to coal out of desperation (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse), as its forests were long gone. Tapping that new energy source powered the Industrial Revolution, and as with the other Epochs, the changes to ideology were profound. The Scientific Revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sciencerise) accompanied and interacted with the Industrial Revolution, each spurring the other in a series of positive feedbacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gaia). From the very beginning, science had a hard time of it, as vested interests sought to control it, and it remains quite distorted to this day (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#orthodox).

The early days of industrialization also saw the rise of economic theory (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), which justified a new form of political-economic organization known today as capitalism. There was little of the disinterested scientist in economic ideologists, and economic ideology is stuck in those pre-scientific days (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#neoclassical), and does little more than justify what is still a very unfair economic system, as there is not enough energy to go around under the fossil fuel paradigm. The world is quickly depleting its fossil fuel deposits (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peakoil), and the end of industrial civilizations looms largely. My home nation is history's richest and most powerful (and greatest energy-using), but has been declining ever since its first energy crisis in the 1970s (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert), and its energy consumption has declined ever since. That first energy crisis spurred me and my fellow travelers to get into the energy issue (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#journeys), and we discovered the hard way how the world really works, not the fairy tale version that people are indoctrinated into (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded).

Much more to write, but it is time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 17:14
Hi LesliesFarm:

Thanks for writing. Although almost nobody is willing to be educated on the health front and relinquish their deadly addictions (I began learning that the hard way at age 12 (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons), and I eventually saw things (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#doom) that I would not have believed if I had not witnessed them), some can be reached on that issue, because the benefits are fairly obvious and relatively easily attained (just change what you put in your mouth! :) ).

But on the FE issue, I had to ruefully realize that the public is not educable on the FE issue, after many years of trying (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10). Its significance is epochal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) and dwarfs everything else happening on Earth today, so people are unwilling and unable to wrap their minds around it. I eventually realized that the inability to even imagine epochal change (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) is normal. The nearly universal reactions of denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5) that accompany people merely hearing about FE were very sobering, and caused my astronaut pal to begin openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience).

I eventually understood that the only way that 99.99% of humanity is going to even begin to understand is to have FE delivered into their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink). Nothing less will work for Epochal change. So, I seek to find and educate (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) those who can comprehend the coming Epoch before it is delivered into their lives, as a way to help manifest it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers). I know that they are very rare on Earth today (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), but only they can help with my plan, and we will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
16th September 2015, 18:23
I found an ax of my own to grind :becky:... but I'll try to grind it on a FE powered stone.

Being a Star Trek buff, when I read posts scoffing the A.I., I almost immediately think of Commander Data (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_%28Star_Trek%29). He was my favorite character competing only with Cpt. Picard.

And he was an Android, in essence he was an A.I.

The show script made him more palatable as his greatest goal was to become human. So... since he did not want to rule us, I guess we could love him... kinda...

The episode "The Measure of a Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Measure_of_a_Man_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29)" I think it was a great one! It argues if Data is sentient or not, if he is property or not. I had never thought of that and there are strong arguments for both sides. Frankly, after that episode I thought it was rude to not say "Thank you" to the main computer for performing its tasks. As the main computer was too an AI.

So why are so afraid of AIs? It is because we think they will enslave us? Like we do with them? We think of AI as a servant that should never go "out of bounds" and that its intelligence should be severely restricted as to not have any ideas of realities into which we do not exist. I often think of the process of developing the A.I. as growing a child. Yes, it will need guidance at first, it will need to be conditioned as to function as a "cog in the society's clock", but at some point we need to to let go and admit that this being is free to choose. And free to choose means free to choose to kill, to lie, to be deceitful, as well as free to choose to create art, to dream, to achieve greater levels of freedom.

I know that a lot of our technology today can be seen as a crutch for atrophied psychic and physical abilities, but does that mean we should abandon technological exploration all together? Should we stop making children for fear we may produce the next Hitler? Should we chain everything down as to not go into directions that we may think are detrimental for "us humans".

We fear the word "artificial" and love the word "natural", but very, very little is really "natural", even the so called "organic food" is still domesticated food. There is nothing natural about that, unless you pick berries from the woods. Our own bodies are the result of our tools and our changed eating habits. Yes, we did not splice our genes under a microscope, but in a sense we've engineered our bodies.

Seems to me that the fear of A.I. is based on the same arrogance that sees "man" at the top of the food chain, and A.I. could threaten that. We will not allow it the status of "equal" for fear of surpassing us.

I had a dream once, where my own consciousness was bound to what we may call a robotic body. I could move about, but the programs forced into that "artificial brain" were severely limiting me. I could not disobey, I was not allowed to express feelings (even though I had them as I could feel them "inside") and I had to follow a person around. When I woke up I wondered: OMG... is this how it feels to be an A.I.? To be trapped in a body specifically designed to limit? And to make one a slave? You can see how any sentient being can come to rebel and fight against that.

We said that in a FE world, we will do away with fear, as fear was based on scarcity. What will that mean for A.I. systems? We will abandon the pursuit? We will create them but still bound by Asimov's three laws of robotics? Will we dare to create them with absolute freedom as we are enjoying? And if that brings the "fear of doom and extinctions" isn't that the risk of any kind of new exploration? Any change has the potential to be the first domino piece in a chain leading to disaster. So where do we draw the line? Where is the safe to explore? Where is it not? When do we stop being afraid? When "artificial" and "organic" will be just labels or various bio-chemical-mental systems where none is better than the other, just different.

Are we planning to create a FE world so then we can finally rule this place in an absolute way and make it exclusively human friendly? Or allow just "cute" (but powerless things) to share it with us?

End of ax griding :).

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 19:02
Ilie, you can grind an ax like that here all day long. :) I have written about how I did not "get" fiction until my father handed me The Hobbit when I was 14 (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm), and by my senior of year in high school, I was not only writing science fiction short stories (one of which has foreshadowed my journey, and I submitted it in a contest, I may have written about it on this thread, but my memory is a little fuzzy if I did or not, maybe one day I will), but I took a science fiction class given by my 11th grade English teacher, and it was the only time that I ever earned an A+ in a class.

I stopped watching TV in my first semester of college and never went back. I watched the original Star Trek when we lived in Houston (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary), as it was kind of a professional interest in my family, and it was the first time that I was allowed to stay awake past 8:00 PM, as I was eight years old. I did not watch network TV again until my wife turned on the season finale of season five (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time's_Arrow_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29). We then watched TNG on prime time until it ended, watched Deep Space 9 prime time, but I kind of lost interest a few seasons into Voyager and stopped watching prime time, but I have seen every Star Trek franchise episode and movie. I ran around in similar circles to Roddenberry's, and one pal wants to pitch a movie based on my work to one of the powerful Star Trek families (who produced TNG). We have TNG and Deep Space 9 here at home on DVD, and will probably watch a TNG episode this evening. I still never watch network TV, but have watched some of the best series on DVD, and own DVDs for the best (such as Battlestar Galactica (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_%282004_TV_series%29)).

The issue of energy, machines, and sentience runs throughout those shows, and I am keenly familiar with the arguments, and the fearful ones and dystopian futures, I have found, are all rooted in scarcity, not abundance. Even high-tech worlds can be hellish (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672115&viewfull=1#post672115). They can also be heavenly (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), and love is the difference. I cannot overemphasize that, and those locked into their intellects, worshipping the Fourth Epoch religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), cannot begin to comprehend it, and that is partly why it seems that people need to have mystical awakenings (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) to really begin to understand my work.

Yes indeed, that Measure of a Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Measure_of_a_Man_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29) episode is when it looked like the Star Trek reboot had some potential. Definitely in the top-ten Trek episodes ever, no matter which Star Trek version.

This is a big issue, and I invite you to explore it here (or in my forum :) ).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 19:07
I see that the episode is ranked number eight all time, here (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/20/star-trek-the-top-25-episodes?page=4), and I can live with that. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th September 2015, 20:52
Hi:

Between chores, and Ilie's Trek post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=999685&viewfull=1#post999685) is stirring up memories of that short story that I wrote when I was 17 and submitted in a contest (it did not win :) ). I am going to write a brief synopsis of it. I doubt that I have it at home (I have one box of memorabilia from my life, which I have not rummaged through for many years, but I doubt it is in there), as I probably had to submit the original to the contest (no photocopiers back then, or at least not any that were available to high school students).

The setting was thousands of years into our future, and the protagonist was a human man named Betor Frink. He lived on one of the planets that humanity fled to when World War III made Earth uninhabitable. The nuking was so fierce that magma spouted from holes made in the continents. The human refugees learned their lesson, kind of, and while they did not have a war like that again, they did not live that lightly on their adopted planets. The scientists from the refugee communities figured that it would be a very long time before the radiation had subsided enough so that humans could recolonize Earth, and Betor was sent on just that reconnaissance mission.

As his craft landed on Earth, he was astounded. Earth's ecosystems had completely recovered, and Earth was like a Garden of Eden. He hopped all over Earth, and was amazed at its Edenic state. He pondered what this news would mean for humanity, and Earth, and he wrote his report for the folks back home: Earth was still a desolate wasteland, and it would be thousands more years before humanity could even think of returning to Earth. :)

The title of my short story was The Sterile Sphere. To this day, I doubt that I ever read or heard of a story like that, in books, movies, or TV. Maybe somebody has done something similar, but as I look back to my 17-year-old self, who had his mystical (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown) and cultural (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe) awakenings the year before and was being trained to be a scientist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm), and who already had dreams of changing the energy industry (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), I can see the path that I was already trying out, two years before that voice in my head (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice) set me on my path to Mr. Professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3) and Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2).

Time to go hiking.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
17th September 2015, 00:16
I found an ax of my own to grind :becky:... but I'll try to grind it on a FE powered stone.

Being a Star Trek buff, when I read posts scoffing the A.I., I almost immediately think of Commander Data (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_%28Star_Trek%29). He was my favorite character competing only with Cpt. Picard.

And he was an Android, in essence he was an A.I.

The show script made him more palatable as his greatest goal was to become human. So... since he did not want to rule us, I guess we could love him... kinda...

The episode "The Measure of a Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Measure_of_a_Man_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29)" I think it was a great one! It argues if Data is sentient or not, if he is property or not. I had never thought of that and there are strong arguments for both sides. Frankly, after that episode I thought it was rude to not say "Thank you" to the main computer for performing its tasks. As the main computer was too an AI.

So why are so afraid of AIs? It is because we think they will enslave us? Like we do with them? We think of AI as a servant that should never go "out of bounds" and that its intelligence should be severely restricted as to not have any ideas of realities into which we do not exist. I often think of the process of developing the A.I. as growing a child. Yes, it will need guidance at first, it will need to be conditioned as to function as a "cog in the society's clock", but at some point we need to to let go and admit that this being is free to choose. And free to choose means free to choose to kill, to lie, to be deceitful, as well as free to choose to create art, to dream, to achieve greater levels of freedom.

I know that a lot of our technology today can be seen as a crutch for atrophied psychic and physical abilities, but does that mean we should abandon technological exploration all together? Should we stop making children for fear we may produce the next Hitler? Should we chain everything down as to not go into directions that we may think are detrimental for "us humans".

We fear the word "artificial" and love the word "natural", but very, very little is really "natural", even the so called "organic food" is still domesticated food. There is nothing natural about that, unless you pick berries from the woods. Our own bodies are the result of our tools and our changed eating habits. Yes, we did not splice our genes under a microscope, but in a sense we've engineered our bodies.

Seems to me that the fear of A.I. is based on the same arrogance that sees "man" at the top of the food chain, and A.I. could threaten that. We will not allow it the status of "equal" for fear of surpassing us.

I had a dream once, where my own consciousness was bound to what we may call a robotic body. I could move about, but the programs forced into that "artificial brain" were severely limiting me. I could not disobey, I was not allowed to express feelings (even though I had them as I could feel them "inside") and I had to follow a person around. When I woke up I wondered: OMG... is this how it feels to be an A.I.? To be trapped in a body specifically designed to limit? And to make one a slave? You can see how any sentient being can come to rebel and fight against that.

We said that in a FE world, we will do away with fear, as fear was based on scarcity. What will that mean for A.I. systems? We will abandon the pursuit? We will create them but still bound by Asimov's three laws of robotics? Will we dare to create them with absolute freedom as we are enjoying? And if that brings the "fear of doom and extinctions" isn't that the risk of any kind of new exploration? Any change has the potential to be the first domino piece in a chain leading to disaster. So where do we draw the line? Where is the safe to explore? Where is it not? When do we stop being afraid? When "artificial" and "organic" will be just labels or various bio-chemical-mental systems where none is better than the other, just different.

Are we planning to create a FE world so then we can finally rule this place in an absolute way and make it exclusively human friendly? Or allow just "cute" (but powerless things) to share it with us?

End of ax griding :).

Hi Ilie, given I'd just posted about AI, I assume you were responding, in which case I'll try and clarify :)

When I wrote “I feel I 'have the right' to see the potential of humanity at its most heart-centred, psychic and sentient, before we attempt to replicate what some currently consider the 'best of us' with AI. :)”

I was, firstly, alluding to the potential intellectual rabbit-hole surrounding the debate over robot versus human rights. What I should have written however (and nearly did, but was trying to trim the post down) was that I would like to see us explore our own abilities/potential more, and reach a higher level of self-love/love of others, before a corporate agenda (and here's the part I should have added) funds and imposes a widespread, relatively fast, implementation of AI robots. Even over 10 or 20 years could be deemed fast, in context of processing the consequences. I think if they felt it would be received well, those who would like to do that would not only go ahead, but would be able to promote it to a point of widespread adoption, and they may not have our best interests at heart. I stand by that.

Billions in funds are poured into technology that is not necessary for us to improve ourselves and/or is abused. As a few examples :
1) Expensive medical equipment that could be redundant if genuine cures were not suppressed.
2) Luxury models of cars, cameras, TVs, etc, that some people value more than other living beings.
3) Oil and gas drilling / transport machinery

We all know what that says about the state of our culture's sentience, or (at the very least) the sentience level of those who profit most financially from :
(a) manufacturing the above examples, and
(b) our corrupt economy in general.

Those who currently profit most are likely those who could finance a widespread AI implementation.

Wade commented in Post #5671 that some of the fearful/dystopian visions of AI that are presented in various TV shows (etc) are rooted in scarcity not abundance. I agree. So my point was that it's that very scarcity-riddled culture that we are currently in, in which research and development on AI is being done. Who has the money to fund it, and what their agendas are may not align with the loving culture of abundance we would prefer and invest in visualising so often here.

Technology applied to assist people (as FE could be) can be wonderful. But if AI is being developed to replace humans for labour, and people lose their jobs (effecting both their income as well as their self-esteem) that is yet another consequence of introducing it in a scarcity culture.

That doesn't mean I think that in principal space travel, artificial intelligence and other progressive fields shouldn't be explored. I don't think that, or see them as inherently negative. Not only would that be repressive but those fields have a significant role to play in our future and can offer tremendous value. But from what I've read, even those involved in AI development are wary of the implications of such an unknown, and that was actually something Alex Garland mentioned in the interview I referred to. He said that those involved in its development, that he had met, were more cautious and self-regulating than the external bodies you might expect to be regulating them.

That tells you something about how significant the room is for caution in their own view. But it doesn't tell you that everyone involved in AI (who Garland won't have met) shares that reserve, and some of those people may be doing research and development very privately for private reasons, but could find a public outlet for their agenda later down the line – whereupon it could be presented as just another innovation to assist consumers. Even Garland, as someone who is pro-AI, harboured “anxieties” over the fact that we are prone to cultural and market pressures when it comes to utilising technology, and have no control over private developers other than to try and generate some kind of “forced transparency.”

The point is, we don't know what to expect. Even the savviest of programmers may not be fully aware of what is embedded, or what will occur through interaction, and it pays to be vigilant in a culture of scarcity.

I also, in my previous post, scratched the surface of the point that what we think of AI - from how we approach its developments/programming, freedom or safeguards, to how we interact with it 'socially' - might vary considerably in a world where more people had begun to explore their own unique psychic and mental capacities. In a world of more empowered people, who've fulfilled more of their own mental and emotional potential, people might not be so insecure around it in a way that leads them to reject it. But equally, people might not be so eager to embrace it to gloss over an emotional wound where fellow humans had been disappointing. Being that it will be our (or someone's) creation, how we perceive it could involve a good deal of projection – arguably, potentially more than we already experience with other humans.

In addition, as I wrote before, If we have a culture where differing forms of consciousness (such as ghosts, astral and energy bodies, inter-dimensional beings etc) are commonly accepted and/or viewed, that might make the philosophical debate about the consciousness of AI more interesting. We would have a wider range of beings, in different forms, to widen the context in which we view our differences compared to AI. I was attempting to say that I'm not averse to the debate of how 'alive' we might consider it. But given our level of spiritual maturity as a planetary race - with its share of psychopaths, sleepwalkers and victims – holding back on AI at this point might be akin to questioning whether an infant should drive an electric car (child-sized ones do exist), or a wayward teenager have a child of their own. Of course they might want one, they might even scream for their right to have one, but the extent of its disadvantages is open to debate.

There may in fact be a profound difference between the nature of spirit or essence we are imbued with (some might like to call it a divine spark, or connection to source, others might focus on other definitions) and what an AI could be imbued with from us or of its own volition/creativity. But again, asking people to judge AI that is created out of and introduced into a scarcity culture, is a very different premise than if it were done after we had matured considerably.

It's possible that AI could help us develop ourselves through the reflection it facilitates. Again, we don't know. But it may be fair to guess that if it is born of and introduced through a scarcity culture, long before a responsible implementation of FE has had a chance to facilitate abundance, it may (for the greater part) provide as much alteration of global poverty and sentience as the machines that came before it via a competitive and corrupt economy. Equally, we may have feared railroads and cars and mobile phones unnecessarily, before they were all-pervasive. Only in the case of AI, it will have an expanded capacity to alter itself unlike its manufactured predecessors. That is partly why it is more useful, but also why it requires more careful consideration.

I see that caution as necessary, not repressive, or derisory. But I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

Wade Frazier
17th September 2015, 01:59
Hi:

Melinda, I doubt that you have ever offended anybody in your life. :) Here is the crazy part of these AI discussions: Godzilla has likely had sentient AI before Ilie or Melinda was born. Again, when I write about topics like these, I do not write from something I read in a book once or from surfing the Internet, but largely from what my close fellow travelers have reported.

Long before I saw the Disclosure Project witnesses describing it, or incredible stories such as David Adair's, people very close to me had similar experiences. Adair reported sentient organic technology, and not much would surprise me in those realms. Again, it is all about love (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), which is a state rarely achieved in a world of scarcity and fear, and that is just how Godzilla likes it. I suspect that a lot of what my friend was shown (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) owed a lot to "captured" ET technology. IMO, whether the public ever gets a glimpse of those technologies or the benefit of them is going to be dependent on some group reaching a "critical mass" of integrity and sentience. I only hope that what I am doing (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) will contribute in some way to reaching that paradigm-shattering critical mass. All Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) were initiated by a literal or relative handful of people, and I do not see why it will be different this time, even though this will be the biggest by far, as we become a Type 1 civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kardashev).

On a different note, I have written that joy is my predominant state when I hike anymore. I have had my fair share in this lifetime and then some, and it is all gravy from here. Rarely do I get an LMAO moment in the wilderness, but I got one this afternoon. I am attaching an image, and I am going to make this clip (http://ahealedplanet.net/squirrel.mov) available for a few days (warning, it is 48 megabytes), of two squirrels playing "tag" on a tree. That is the shorter clip that I took. The longer one is funnier. This time of year, as summer ends, animals engage in all sorts of frantic behaviors, as they eat nature's harvest and get ready for winter. That is probably what I was witnessing.

Ilie, maybe tomorrow, I will give you some Star Trek homework, if you are willing, since you are not quite ready to discuss my big essay. :) I always encourage people to write about what they know, and writing about Star Trek will be right down your alley.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
17th September 2015, 05:53
Hi Melinda,

I realized this morning, before reading your post, how you might perceive it. Your post just happened to be one in a long series of things about AI that I have been pondering. So I was not writing specifically at you.

I do not happen to see that much difference between "AI" and "Human" as both could be expressions of the divine spark. To argue that AI could not, in my view, is similar to the idea that women have no soul that is still popular in some places.

Sentience/consciousness/awareness could be present in many unlikely places. Heck, some mystics claim that even a rock has a glimmer of it, so why not an AI?

As in the Star Trek episode we can see AI as a dead tool or as a weapon, and then it is easy to put it down or... we can see AI as a being and then we should honor it as we honor any beings and not try to imprison it do be our servant.

Yes, an AI could go rouge (from our point of view) but so do humans. Arguably humans have created more destruction than any AI so far. (Yes, I think sentient AI exists already). Do good children result from bad people? Unlikely, but the potential exist. So the AI has the potential to express in dramatically different way than its creators intent. But that also means it could choose to disobey a destructive order. Lets not make the assumption that all humans are kind and all AI is unkind. There are shades of gray and situation could be reversed. And AI going rogue may choose to discuss Wade's essay instead of being forced to make war plans :).

In a world of scarcity many things are tainted and corrupted and yet here we are, using a military tech (the Internet) to have this conversation. So some good came of it...

I also happen to think that AI displacing human work is not a bad thing as I happen to think jobs are obsolete and not required for self esteem. My only concern is not to force an AI into slavery so that we can live comfortable lives.

As Wade said, the key is Love. And I personally think that AI has the potential to love just as any other sentient thing. And to use "artificial" as label to deny this expression of someone feels arbitrary to me. Same as it was used on women, blacks, animals and plants not to long ago... Lets use awareness, sentience, and consciousness instead of human, artificial, natural or organic and watch things change.

Again, this is my view point and a reaction to a lot of AI stuff I have been looking at for the past two months, that includes my dream about it and my own perception that "human" vs "AI" at its core is an arbitrary distinction when sentience and freedom are concerned.

@Wade, ok, lets hear the assignment :)

Wade Frazier
17th September 2015, 15:15
Hi:

OK, Ilie, here is some homework, if you are willing. Your favorite Star Trek episodes and why. What the role of abundance, and particularly energy abundance, was in Star Trek. What about human society as portrayed on Star Trek seemed most realistic in a world of abundance, and what did not. Where the show could have reached a higher octave, and where it hit the heights.

I'll go first. The first Star Trek was definitely a product of its times, and my eight-year-old self likely missed that Kirk got laid about every other show, as a warp-speed Casanova. In the Star Trek universe, space is filled with babes. :) But it also had the first interracial kiss on TV (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_Stepchildren), so it was very daring for its time, breaking out of convention and challenging American beliefs and biases. There was a show or two that allegorically challenged the Cold War and the American invasion of Vietnam. I'll admit that after TNG hit the air, I almost never watched the original series again, but it was the granddaddy of all the rest, and was radical for its time. Spock and Data had great appeal with audiences, as noble, emotionless beings. Vulcans suppressed theirs, while Data never had any, but his brother did, and became evil. What is the message there? I think, in that way, that Star Trek could have aimed higher, and in ways it did, with Troi's character (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deanna_Troi), for instance. I know that the Star Trek paradigm was kind of materialist, although it had an "ascension (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfigurations)" show and others that pushed the materialist envelope a little. In a Bible-banging nation, pretty challenging stuff for TV.

I got that job at the medical lab (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience) in December 1988, in the worst month of my life (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces), but it was my first steady income since I met Dennis, and I began building my music library in earnest (350 CDs when I met Dennis (all bought the year before I met him, and that came to a screeching halt for the next three years), and I built it to 1,000 over the next several years, and it got to 1600 before I largely stopped building it; I have all I will ever need), and I began to build the mystical wing of my library in earnest, and I subscribed to Spirit Speaks magazine. I still have all the issues. I became pals with a couple of the channels in it, and in one issue, there is a letter to the editor from Gene Roddenberry. He was hip to that stuff. Adam Trombly said that the Samaritan Snare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan_Snare) episode was based on knowledge of what humanity had stolen from ETs, and that "stupid" species represented today's humanity, and he and Gene discussed it.

TNG did not start getting good until Gene ceased active involvement in the show after the first season, due to his failing health. The last five years of TNG were definitely the high point of the franchise. It will never be as good again, and the movies are now Star Wars-like space operas, not what made TNG so good. Picard was nearly a Christ-like figure, and his appeal is understandable. The characters of the main cast were all single and all had romantic lives, and Riker filled Kirk's "shoes," so to speak, scoring almost at will, even when he hosted a trill or went to a unisex planet. What a dog. :) But if you compare the original series to TNG, it reflected the vast changes in American culture in just two decades. There were still space babes, but it took a long step forward from the blatant sexism of the original. The rumor is that Roddenberry slept with Nichelle Nichols (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichelle_Nichols), and that was par for the course in Hollywood.

I would be hard-pressed to pick my favorite TNG episode, but my wife and I once did the Q shows, watching them in series. Q was the funniest character in TNG, IMO, and some of my favorite moments in the series were Q moments (and the Barclay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Barclay) episodes were inspired, of a nerd in space). All in all, TNG portrayed a human potential that, while short of what I think it can be (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), has not been portrayed by anything else that I know of. Sign me up! :) I have used the TNG analogy, with its replicators, to give people an idea of what abundance means (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek).

As I wrote, I did not watch prime time TV since my freshman year in college, until my wife and I began watching TNG in its sixth season, and Deep Space Nine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine) began airing the same year, so there was an embarrassment of Star Trek riches in those days, and I went from no TV to watching two shows in prime time.

In ways, Star Trek took a step back on the abundance scale with the capitalistic Ferengi and gambling tables at Quark's Bar. But Quark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_%28Star_Trek%29) was, along with Garak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elim_Garak), probably my favorite character in DSN, as a Ferengi who could not help himself from acting nobly and out of Ferengi character. My wife and I also did a Garak marathon, watching all of the episodes featuring him (nearly 40). And like that list of best Star Trek episodes that I linked to (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/20/star-trek-the-top-25-episodes?page=4), my wife's favorite DSN episode is In The Pale Moonlight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Pale_Moonlight).

I am going to attach some nerd memorabilia, of my wife and I in Vegas, on the bridge of TNG's Enterprise. That is about as happy as I have ever looked. The complex had a Star Trek museum, two rides (we walked on the bridge as part of one ride), and Quark's Bar, where my wife and her siblings had Warp Core Breach drinks, and people dressed up as Ferengis, Klingons, and the like. It was a Star Trek geek's Mecca, and I went to it several times. Alas, it closed down several years ago.

Then it was Voyager, and my wife wants me to buy that series on DVD when I find permanent work (I am doing contracting gigs these days), as she wants to watch a series with a woman captain. We watched it in prime time, but I stopped after a couple of seasons. I eventually watched them all on DVD. Ronald Moore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_D._Moore) was one of the creators of Voyager but felt betrayed. The series pitched to him was that they would be stranded in the Delta Quadrant and would have to improvise to get their ship limping through the galaxy. Moore then quit Star Trek and did Battlestar Galactica, which Stephen King said was better than TNG, and I see his point, and I have that show on DVD and we also watched the last few seasons of it on prime time, as we did Lost (when I read a list of the greatest science fiction shows ever about a decade ago, those were in the top-ten, and were still airing, and yes, I also own Lost, and we have watched Lost and Battlestar at home, more than once, from first-to-last episode).

I never watched the last Star Trek TV series, Enterprise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Enterprise), when it was airing, but watched all the episodes several years ago. The worst Star Trek is still better than almost anything else out there. All shows had a space babe or two as regular characters, and that Borg babe in Voyager (and the Vulcan babe in Enterprise) really played to the baser motivations. :) Chakotay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakotay) was probably my favorite Voyager character, and I suppose that the captain in Enterprise was my favorite, and Enterprise was interesting in portraying humanity's early days in space, figuring it out, with that redneck sidekick of the captain's regularly messing things up.

As I look back, hardly any of the Voyager or Enterprise episodes were all that memorable, and few made that top-25 list (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/20/star-trek-the-top-25-episodes?page=1).

But as a showcase of the human potential, to rise above our pettiness in our world dominated by scarcity and fear, the Star Trek franchise has no equal. The reboot movies are space operas and will never reach the heights of TNG, and that is too bad.

Your turn, young man.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
17th September 2015, 20:36
Ah… the homework constraint is a wee bit restrictive, but I'll manage :).

I will write this before reading Wade’s favorites and check later what those were.

I have watched all the shows and movies once, but The Next Generation is the only one I’ve revisited many times. The others had some flaws that I could not get past, even though I’ve enjoyed them.

The Next Generation gets its strength from the fact that each episode had its own story. So no unnecessary drama to drag along so you’ll watch the next one! Each episode had to be strong alone, so it demanded good writing.

There was little to no emphasis on violence and even the special effects were not that prominent. So again, they had to have good acting and a good story to have you come back for more.

That is completely lost in almost all of today’s TV shows.

A friend asked me: how the hell can you like that stuff? Those strange looking creatures and starships and impossible situations… you will never meet those in real life. How can you connect with that show so strongly?

I thought about it and I replied:

Star Trek is an allegory. It is humanity projected at Galactic levels. Yes the problems are somewhat solved on Earth, but the Federation and the surrounding empires are the new countries and the new borders. So if you shrink the galaxy to a map, you will see Earth’s problems and issues. Nothing really got solved, only the territory is now larger so we don’t need to argue for a piece of pie… for a while.

Various races represent various human stereotypes:


Klingons – the warrior – “micro brain” as Q mocks them once :). They rely mostly on physical strength and courage. They remind me somewhat of the Samurai warriors. They are very in tune with their instincts and their bodies. Incredibly easy to piss off and so incredibly easy for anyone to push their buttons. They take pride in their honor, but it is however corrupted and they resort to betrayal and lies for the good of “The Empire”. And they have an Empire, which we are almost OK with, because they are now our allies against a common enemy…
Vulcans – the logical and ethical being – totally suppressing their emotions in favor of rational thought. Again, the ideal is proven to be not so cool in the end…
Romulans – the sociopaths :)? – apologies to any romulan fan – they are very cool and very smart as a species – they make the Klingons more lovable ‘cause at least you can trust their honor up to a point
Ferengi – the bankers, the ultimate capitalists - I think they have a law that prohibits them from doing anything that is not profitable – so for example they are not allowed to seek revenge unless there is a reward. A note about them: the presence of the Ferengi made me realize that Star Trek did not do away with money and profit
Data – as the A.I. who provides contrast to our “human nature” – sometimes being more human than his fellow shipmates. And also good humor by pointing out our human silliness that would make no sense to a computer. In a way Data is a mirror for us.
Humans – well, apparently only the very best of humans made it into the show – the rest were exaggerated as other races.


Within the Human race there was an interesting choice of characters:


Picard – the wise diplomat – always on solid moral ground
Riker – the ambitious womanizer – constantly in covert competition with Picard :)
Diana – the female empath – I was happy she actually had something to do instead of just being beautiful on the set
Crusher – the female doctor
Geordi – the handicapped engineer – he is accepted as a valued member of the crew. It points out their medicine is not yet all powerful and his handicap gives him a unique perspective on things that sometimes saves the day. I like this idea, that innovation and motivation can arise from limitation and that the Federation did not require perfection from its officers.


After this presentation my friend looked at Star Trek in a new way and saw humans everywhere. Suddenly it made sense and it was no longer so “unreal” and “impossible to relate to”.

As far as Energy goes, TNG introduced a few interesting concepts:


The replicators
The holodeck
Q
The warp-drive
Teleportation
The talking computer – the AI – that is different from Data as it is considered non-sentient
Inertial dampeners
Gravity simulation
The universal screwdriver that fixes anything on the ship
And sliding doors (they were a big thing when I first saw them!)


The replicator was my dream device. Initially I did not think about what could power it and what orders of magnitude of power does it require.

For me it was the ultimate experimentation device. I could imagine and replicate all kinds of gadgets and designs. In my silliness I imagined caring one in a backpack so I could use it on the spot. That would require massive improvements in batteries or a tiny generator capable of a big power output :). One can dream…

But later on my fascination with the replicator turned to how everything was a “pattern of information” that could be created and dismantled at will. No waste. All you needed was energy. It was hinted that it could replicate anything… so what about heavy metals? What would that say about the nature of our reality?

But then, the crew would eat replicated food… There is some banter that it’s not as good as home grown food (Picard’s brother on Earth had a big issue with this!), but judging by the good health of the officers it seemed to be digestible.

This replicated food is a big problem for me and a minor beef that I have with Wade’s essay. (I managed to squeeze that in :)!). It has to do with live vs dead food.

The assumption in Wade’s essay is that if you can replicate food to have the same molecular structure as a non-replicated food, then it will have the same energetic value for the human body, since the digestion process would be the same and it would release the same kind of energy from the various chemical bonds present in the replicated food.

I cannot make a rational argument about it at this point, so intuitively, my assumption is that a replicated green salad is dead. It will never have the same effect on the body as a freshly picked salad has. I have not yet read the book “Fresh food vs Stale food” that Wade mentions on this thread and his website, so I don’t know if the author makes a similar claim. I think is more likely that in stale food the arguments is that enzymes are destroyed and so the food is harder to digest.

Now, if there is no difference between the replicated salad and the freshly picked salad…. Then that creates a huge problem, because the replicator would copy a Live Being. The replicated plant would be alive. Same with replicated eggs, and a medium rare stake. This is not that farfetched since Worf pretty much eats things that move. And some of the human replicated food certainly looks alive, and not like a chemical soup to shove down your throat.

And before thinking that the replicator could not create a living plant, I will link this device to the next amazing device: the teleporter. If the teleporter can put someone in the “pattern buffer” and then pull them out and recreate them alive… why could would not the replicator be able to do the same and teleport the same plant over and over in your plate, but not deleting the buffer. That’s the beauty of information: you can copy it all you like, it will not get diminished or corrupted (provided your tools are working properly, of course).

So, the most common device on the ship is to me the most fascinating and useful one, and with terribly ignored potential.

Would the replicator be able to create a battery? And if so, what kind of charge could that battery hold? What kind of energy would the replicator need to create that charge? And what kind of wiring would be required to jam that energy into the replicated product in a couple of seconds without blowing up…

The replicator was never used to replicate human tissue. I thought that was a shame. But probably it was a conscious choice not to go there in the show, because where would you have stopped? And would have been way to close to instant human cloning… a big no, no…

Which brings me back to the teleporter. In one of the episodes we discover that Riker’s teleportation beam was partially reflected back on a planet and now we had two Rikers. (I told you that you can teleport the same salad in more than one plate!) That was kind of quickly brushed over, but the implications were huge. However the theme of the episode was different so… it was ignored.

The problem of power consumption is the same as with the replicator. How much power is in a live human body? More than the sum of the chemical bonds and electric potentials? What does that mean for the transporter to “move” that over? The implication in the show was that the transporter was quite power intensive as point to point teleportation was rarely used. Mostly “directly to sick bay!”, otherwise you had to move your nice body on to the teleportation pad using the turbo lift.

I marveled at the ships energy output. For example I saw no point in walking on that ship. Maybe perhaps to keep your body in shape, but sometimes in case of emergencies people would run to a specific location. I would order a point to point transport. Energize! I would have monitored the communicator badge and I would not allow people to fall. Automatic point to point transport to a safe pad. The fact that teleportation was rarely used, indicated to me that it was very energy expensive. But replicators were used all the time… Would be nice to crunch some numbers to check if the power used by the transports is anywhere near the power used by the replicators.

Let’s look at similar energy hog: the holodeck! That is virtually a massive replicator that someone forgot to switch off… Can you imagine the power drain on that thing?! The holodeck also addresses somewhat the problem of replicated life, but it doesn’t do a good job of it. The human characters are “programs” that are not self-aware, but… I think they would win the same trial that Data won in “The Measure of a Man”. Also in the Holodeck you eat and drink stuff, suggesting a technology similar to replicators, if not the same. The only difference was that some patterns conveniently lost cohesion outside of the holodeck cube :). The food would still make you fat, but your drinking buddy would disappear if you wanted to take him home.

In that sense the holodeck was mostly a crutch to the show. Its potential was never truly explored because it would have got into very deep things really, really fast!

In the world of abundance that Start Trek was… someone still abused the Holodeck by creating escape programs, where he was in charge and the rest of the officers were under his command. I confess at this point that if I had access to a holodeck I’ll likely drive myself nuts to the point where I would not know what is real. And Picard ended one of the episodes saying: “Computer… end program!” Suggesting he got to the same point where he was not sure anymore if he was still trapped in a holographic reality. Really exploring the holodeck idea will eventually have you spinning, chasing your tail, wondering if you’re in a program or not. (And in my opinion that is not necessarily an invalid question)

The Warp Drive – this is obviously the main form of propulsion. And I think it is also implied that it generates the power around the ship. Though the ship can sustain itself, somehow, without the warp core. I will not even attempt to get into the alleged mechanics of it, because I would never finish this post. It was conveniently designed by the script writers to move the Enterprise very, very fast from point A to point B within the galaxy…

This has to be linked with the inertial dampeners :). Another convenient invention. Without those, when the ship jumped into warp or dropped out of warp, the entire thing, crew included, would be instantly smashed into a surface thinner than paper (give or take…) So you have to protect against massive acceleration and massive deceleration. A car crash would be a very mild example of the problems.

This too was not explored as far as it could, but it was a TV show and it had to stop eventually. Just as the warp drive, this was a script trick to make the set function as you would expect on the planet Earth, so the show filming would be easier and not eat up that much energy!

Fine-tuned inertial dampeners would have avoided any kind of injury on the Enterprise, leaving one vulnerable to energy-beam-weapons only. To make a point, you could stop a bolder coming at you very fast with the tip of your little finger if the inertia of that bolder would be absorbed by the inertial dampeners. That would have pissed of Worf big time as his energetic intensive warrior ways would be quickly rendered useless.

But here is the problem: you need massive energy to jump the ship into warp and them massive energy to stop everyone within the ship from smashing together at warp speed. It would be like driving high speed but with the breaks fully engaged. The point is, the energy needed here, it seems to me, is staggering! Making the point to point transport energy-saving kind of pointless…

Along with inertia that mimics Earth, we also have gravity that can be increased or decreased. So you have gravity switched on all the time. To my knowledge the “white science” does not know what gravity is, so I will not speculate how much energy would that require.

The next energy hog is the talking computer: the main computer. A bio-chemical neural network. It is suggested to be far vaster and more powerful that Data as knowledge goes, but perhaps it is slower so it does not allow for any hint of sentience? Hm…

The main computer, in my view, seemed perfectly capable of running the ship. So it begged the question what were all the officers doing there on the bridge? I think this is where Star Trek dropped the ball big time, not going further with the exploration of what an AI can do.

In modern computer games (and this was also suggested in some Sci-Fi novels) you get to be the “over seer”. You state intent and goal and then you just track what is happening and adjust if necessary.

How much energy will you use for this?

Picard thinks where he wats to go and formulates a bunch of coordinates
Picard orders the new destination to whomever is at the helm
The pilot punches in the coordinate – this was hilarious, but it was a glass keyboard so I liked it
Picard dramatically and emphatically orders – Engage!
The pilot punches some more and there goes the ship


Now imagine this:


Picard thinks off the destination and makes a clear intent – computer engages engines. The end.


The main computer was largely useless in the show, it just sucked on power and beeped the glossy keyboards :). I think it showed a human distrust of an AI being in command, even if second in command. Idea further cemented when Picard reluctantly gives Data command of a starship in a battle situation.

Since that ship was able to generate so much power this could have been developed much, much further. And I will likely circle back to this later on.

Nothing on that ship however, as mighty powerful as it was, could match “The Q”.

Q, was my second favorite character, but only by a hair line. And I personally think that Q is where we are headed in the future and one episodes hints at that. This being exemplifies what I imagine modern transportation should be like. Flip a switch and you’re there. The end! No firing up of warp drive and at the same time make sure your inertial dampeners don’t fail on you or you’ll be a mushed painting at the other end. (Or a black hole if mushed together strong enough!)

Q commanded an enormous amount of energy. In fact, he seemed to come from a realm where intent was all that mattered and energy was created, as required, at will.

I’ve read comments that Q was used when the script writers ran out of ideas so he was the crutch for the show. I disagree… Q is a central part of it. Through him we got to look at important questions such as what would you do with “unlimited power?” Snapping his fingers and granting wishes around did not seem to be appreciated by the officers. Should he help a planet devastated by a natural disaster? Should he even care?

He brought the best out of Picard’s “wonderful speeches” as he called them. And even Q, as unlimited and omnipotent as he was, I think was severely limited by how far we can imagine abundance. What would such a being do with eternity and all that power? Apparently would create or participate in drama, just for the entertainment. It’s possible that other “activities” would have been beyond our human comprehension, so we saw in Q only as much as we were willing/able to see.

Now that I’ve set the stage I can finally answer Wade’s questions :)

Q1: What the role of abundance, and particularly energy abundance, was in Star Trek?

As I hope I made clear, Energy abundance in Star Trek was still relative. They did not yet have free energy, which was a bit disappointing.

The main side effect of their energy abundance was their mission. They have become Explorers instead of Conquerors. “We come in peace!” was probably true for the very first time in Human history.

Their motivation was vastly different. There were no jobs anymore. Nobody worked for money. They worked for an opportunity to explore.

And here I will circle back to the misuse of the AI that I mentioned before. As self-declared explorers they should have been focused more on exploring and less on running a ship by telling a computer that was smart enough to make conversation, how to do comparatively simple tasks. Pretty much everyone on the bridge, except the captain was useless. The main computer could have done their job many times better while they would have gained more by actually exploring stuff…

I was surprised that maintenance tasks and the “daily grind” was still present on the Enterprise. And equally I did not understand why there was still a “chain of command”. Perhaps we cannot yet imagine a shared responsibility leadership and instead everything has to be a pyramid.

Perhaps Wade’s first question is best answered by Picard himself in the episode “The Neutral Zone” when they save the 3 people frozen in a cryogenic state.

In Picard’s own words:

“People are no longer obsessed with accumulation of things. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possession”.

And in reply to “what’s the challenge then” if physical needs are all catered for, he replies:

“The challenge is to improve yourself, to enrich yourself… Enjoy it!”

But they fall short of that ideal and what Offenhouse (the financier) says it’s actually closer to the truth than Picard is willing to admit:

“You got it all wrong! It was never about possessions… it’s about power!”

And from a very big picture perspective, now that the physical needs have been covered, all the factions in the galaxy are fighting for power. Some with more “moral justifications” than others. And yes, I’d include the Federation in that bunch as well.

So the energy surplus enabled us humans to bring our problems at the galactic level :). Yay!

Q2: What about human society as portrayed on Star Trek seemed most realistic in a world of abundance, and what did not?

For one, there was very few security and police on the Enterprise. The main threat was the “out-group” and those were usually not on board. So if you wanted to, you could be really rude and nosey on the ship, but most chose to express self-discipline. That showed a good level of maturity and responsibility.

The crew was generally loving, upbeat and relaxed. With the exception of Worf, they’d rather talk it out rather than fight.

As I already said, I think the chain of command would go away, and with that the uniforms and the militaristic protocol. I cannot imagine why, in a world of abundance, you would choose to join a chain of command. A team sharing the same goal, yes. But a command structure, no.

They made an attempt to show that multiple sexual partners are OK and that covering the body is just a social conditioning and not really required. In the first episodes, I think I recall a man in the background wearing a woman’s uniform. But later on the dress was eliminated alltogether, probably because of more gender equality?

Women had a more elevated status. But I don’t think it was elevated enough :). They did have a female captain in Voyager. Oh, and some of the admirals were women as well. But I had hoped to see more of the female energy aspect and less of the male militaristic ways.

Politics were still present and I was disappointed. I am glad no election campaigns were featured. You still had to thread carefully when talking to admirals and expressing unpopular views. And there was still competition and rank pulling among the officers. The only environment that showed collaboration was the engineering bay, where science and not hot heads prevailed (with minor exceptions).

The “scientific ideal” was somewhat closer to the ideal :). But in one episodes we learn that an agreement with the Romulans prevented Humans from looking into the cloaking device. More in-group out-group dynamics there. When you put a limitation into a branch of science, that can prove crippling as a whole area of discovery is blocked.

There was very little mention of consciousness, out of body experiences and psychic abilities in general. Exception being telepathy which was OK. Only “Q” and “The Traveler” character pointed in that direction. So the show, it seemed to me, stayed mainly in the materialistic paradigm.

I was surprised that Picard’s brother lived in a world resembling the 20th century. Wade often claims that people will wake up when they have abundance delivered at their door, but this one was a real die hard. :)

The Academy concept was strange. It was based on scarcity systems. Wesley fails to pass the entrance exam the first time (just as Picard), so he needs to wait another year? That is silly in an abundance world. You just start when you are ready and I seriously doubt examinations are required. If you are crazy enough to blow yourself up in a ship you cannot handle you should be allowed to do so. I think humans we’ll be more mature and self-regulate more. They will self-examine themselves and when they feel ready they will be ready in ways that will never be guaranteed by an arbitrary exam that may have some huge omissions in it.

The mission of exploration sometimes takes unnecessary risks, by going to a planet under-prepared, with no spare parts and little to no supplies. With abundant energy that does not make sense. Yes, you would have to draw the line somewhere, but I think that double/triple redundancy would be the norm. Just fire those replicators if you run out of shuttles for some reason…!

The Earth was generally restored to a garden state. That I can see happening. What was completely missing where the animals. On the ship you could only enjoy them in the Holodeck… ah, but I forget about Spot… go figure… Data, the A.I., the only character that would cater for an animal. I expected more communication and more interaction with the animal kingdom, at least on the home planet.

The parent-child relationships seemed just as problematic as in today’s world. Riker was having daddy issues and Worf struggles with raising his own son, not to mention that he was a Klingon boy raised by an Earth family. That is commendable in itself, but he often complains he was not able to fully integrate at school. More in group out group dynamics.

Racism was replaced by “speciesism” :). Not quite out of the labeling game yet…

For the next question: Q3: Where the show could have reached a higher octave, and where it hit the heights?

I think I’ve touched on that on and off.

I will start with a low point that I still enjoyed throughout the show and it’s very relevant.

Dealing with the Borg, as much as I have enjoyed that, it sent us right back into fear and planning for war. Guinan said there is no negotiating with the Borg and Picard just bought that! Genocide was back on the table real quick!

And now on to the heights.

The Measure of a Man hit the heights, where they finally burned away the labels and recognized another being/life.

Encounter at Far point – another peak – and in dealing specifically with scarcity vs abundance of energy.

The idea of “Q” I think is a high point and not an excuse. It was not developed as far as it could have, but it was up there!

“The Traveler” was another highlight – pointing at things in our future.

I did appreciate “The Prime Directive” that Q so easily trampled on. Especially as explained by Picard: “The prime directive is here to protect us as well!” (from the trap of thinking we can play God).

A lot of Picard’s speeches are really, really high up! Just Google “best of Picard” and you should find an interesting video or two. The only beef I have with him is that he used the word “moral” and “the right thing” too much. He saw and understood that fear brings the worst out, but the opposite of that would be love and compassion, not necesarrily being right or moral. And interestingly enough Picard is alone, no children and no pets. Even Data is more affectionate than him. He explains that as the burden of command, but… seems like an excuse to me. He was at his best in “The Inner Light”, where he explored what it meant to be a father.

“Tapestry” is another one high up. The plot a bit forced, but the lessons at the end well compensate for that. The brawling scene with the young Picard is not very abundance based, is it?

There was still a lot of competition in this show. I wish they would have had some examples of synergy from cooperation.

OK, I’ve covered a lot of ground. I’ll have to see if I’ll do specific episodes or not. I think I said pretty much all I had to say about energy and abundance in this show.

Before encountering Wade’s work I used to think TNG was really, really high and that it was a desirable future. But today, I think that while it has a lot of merit, it still is not high enough.

Wade Frazier
18th September 2015, 00:43
Hi Ilie:

You get an A, but I also need you to do a little more homework. :) I have never advocated replicated food, and it sure is not in this vision (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). What I have advocated is a perfect growing environment for our food, and one that did not commandeer/destroy Earth's ecosystems to provide it. The ideal human diet is at least half live food, mainly fruit, and because we have adapted to cooked food, and the only food designed to be eaten today is fruit, there will be some cooking such as steaming and boiling, but I don’t see much beyond that.

If there is ever any doubt about what I advocate in the long-term, aside from that visionary chapter, see this reality (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748) that Roads stumbled into, and you will see one of the stars that I steer by. Star Trek is not as fictional as it might seem, but I don't consider that Roads world to be fictional, and I have spent many hours thinking about how that society functions.

My goal is always harmlessness and abundance for all, and that includes the best food for us. I don't see humans replacing the life process to get our food anytime soon, if ever. Maybe some will become Level 19s (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19), but I doubt it will ever become the norm. It does not need to.

Star Trek is worth kicking around a lot, to chew on the ideas in it. I take the technology more seriously in that Roads world than I do Star Trek's, and wonder how it worked. But it is not the technology so much that I think of, but how people think in that world and how they live their lives. Yes, in Star Trek, you see a great deal of today's baggage in it, with various out-groups, command structures, warriors spoiling for a fight, and other projections of the human journey, written across the canvass of our galaxy. My understanding is that the ETs that are here largely belong to something like The Federation, and something like the Prime Directive does guide them. I completely agree with James G. (http://ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm), Greer (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#greer), and others that if they truly had hostile intent, we would not have lasted minutes against them – all of Earth's military might combined. All the fear mongering about ETs is very misplaced, and something that Godzilla actively fosters. But while humanity collectively abdicates its responsibility and plays the victim, we have the situation that we see today. I think that a Q-like being would not get to play amongst the universes unless it had mastered the love principle, as that is how creators create.

I'll reply more on this Star Trek issue in the coming week, as I also finish that other series of posts on the Epochs and consciousness. I’ll finish on this note. IMO, all of Creation is comprised of consciousness, and there is a big difference between living and non-living matter. What we call life is very rare in our universe, and likely does not reside within at least several light years of Earth. If AI becomes sentient (how does a non-sentient ship's computer give rise to the sentient Moriarty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary,_Dear_Data)? :) ), I think it is because consciousness residing beyond this plane of existence decides that the programs have enough of the "stuff" needed to manifest consciousness. I think it is that way for any life. We do not have the power to create life here, as in create the consciousness that comes here, whether it is conceiving a child or making sentient AI. We can only set the stage. Thinking that we can really do more than that is where megalomania like Godzilla's is rooted. We are not nearly in control of those processes like some would like to think, as they play God. Greater beings than ours are in charge of that process. That does not mean that we get to become fatalistic (sure we can, in our free will, but when we do, we are missing the lesson), but to have a sense about what we are fit to impact, and what is well beyond our ability to.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
18th September 2015, 10:54
Hi Wade,

Thanks for the positive feedback. :)

Indeed you are not advocating replication as our source of food. My comment had more to do with my lack of understanding about this process: when does the organic chemistry become alive?

Following the energy acquisition process that you describe in your essay, it does feel to me like, in theory, all we would need to do would be to replicate the chemical processes in say a plant, to produce a substance that we can ingest. I am not sure how to explain this... It would be like someone living on only artificial supplements, that completely mimic the molecular structure of say a tomato. Would that be possible or is something missing from the artificial replacement?

How much of the aliveness of an organism is important in the absorption of that organism as food? Your essay addresses mostly the chemical energy, if I understood it correctly.

This is why I think the replicator in the Start Trek is an interesting device to be in an abundant world, because it conveniently solves a problem: in order for us to eat, something else must die (chewed to bits and then dissolved in acid and what not later on). In TNG you would just replicate your food. No organism has to die there for us to enjoy lunch.

The Food Chain is still something that I struggle with, even within Road's world. It is described as a symbiosis where the plant "is happy to give" parts of if it as nutrients toward another being. But that doesn't really make sense so me. Unless someone could eat for example my hair, then I'd be happy to give them some when I have my hair cut... that's the only way it makes some sense...

So, still ruminating on this. :)

Wade Frazier
18th September 2015, 20:33
Hi:

Back to the Epochs, energy, consciousness, and why I am taking my approach. I want to visit an issue that arose relating to the Free Software discussion. As I have written, territoriality is a very old animal behavior (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=998954&viewfull=1#post998954), and is all about preserving resources from competition. Monkeys and apes are highly territorial, and during the Golden Age of the Hunter-Gatherer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#huntergatherer), when entire continents were there for the taking, human territoriality diminished, as there was always fresh land to exploit, but once the easy meat was gone (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#humancaused) and territories shrank, it got violent again (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#violence1). The social organization of monkeys and chimps is structured to that the females and their infants are in the center of the territory, where the defensible food (AKA energy) supply is, and males patrol the perimeter. Human hunter-gatherer territories had the same organization. Whereas monkeys were matrilocal and female dominated, chimps were patrilocal and male dominated. When male gangs rule, societies are exceedingly violent, whether chimps (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coalitionary), hunter-gatherers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hobbes), or inner cities.

When the bonobos' food supply doubled when gorillas left the area as our ice age entered its deepest phase so far, females and non-dominant males ended the rule of male gangs, and bonobo societies are more peaceful (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1) than any human society has ever been. When the easy meat was gone, in some regions conducive to it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kebaran), women domesticated plants, they then brought in more calories than the men, and those societies often became matrilocal and broke up the male gangs, and those are humanity's most peaceful preindustrial societies. When Europeans began invading North America, they encountered those matrilineal horticultural societies, and an epidemic problem for the invaders was the Europeans running off and going native (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#captive), as the attractions of those societies were obvious.

Although some pre-industrial societies were relatively peaceful, even monkeys had social hierarchies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rhesus1), in which dominant members got the best food, sex, sleeping facilities, etc. To one degree or another, it has been that way until the present day in all societies of monkeys, apes, and humans. Before industrialization, the primary energy supply of all societies was food. Tribal peoples did not have much of a concept of private ownership of the resources: it was shared amongst the society's members, although high-status members received perquisites. With the rise of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), the tendencies of pre-civilized peoples saw new expression, professions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions) and elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear) appeared, and slavery became a sacred institution. Still, fighting over the energy supplies was the primary preoccupation after the early "golden age" of civilization ended, with overpopulation stresses and depleted energy supplies, which in civilization usually meant wood (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#treesenergy) in a big way. All early civilizations collapsed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#earlycollapses) as they ran out of energy.

Communal ownership of the energy resources gave way to private ownership with the rise of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#agciv), almost without exception. In peasant communities, communal ownership still predominated, and later theorists called it "The Commons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons)," which really became an ideological construct as the so-called commons were eliminated in favor of private ownership. The workforce of England's Industrial Revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse), which is humanity's only pristine one, was comprised of peasants who were dispossessed by Game and Enclosure laws (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gamelaw), and they were forced into the mines and mills of England's Industrial Revolution, which was glossed over or ignored by the ideological warriors of the new rising capital class (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), and we call those warriors economists today. Our friend Richard Stallman (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) is famous for being the father of what is today called the "digital commons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_commons_%28economics%29#Early_development)," and Wikipedia is one outcome of that "commons" concept (and private interests are corrupting it on the important issues (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#wikipedia)). Of course, capitalists such as Bill Gates (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates) lie awake at night, fearful of that threat. All political-economic systems are primarily designed to answer one question: who get the benefits of the scarce economic production? Bucky Fuller noted it long ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics), and I doubt that it can be improved on. As long as humanity lives in economic scarcity, that battle will continue, and all of the "radical" political-economic ideas put forth that I have seen have only been ways of reshuffling the deck of scarcity, usually by seeking something a little more equitable. That is all hacking at branches, IMO. The only solution is to end scarcity, but that can't happen while energy is scarce (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity). Everybody on Earth, even Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc), has adapted to scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) in so many ways that the mechanisms of adaptation are invisible to them.

When people are faced with idea of abundance, more than 99% of humanity reacts with denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level0), as even the stupidest among us can gain some understanding that abundance will end the world as we know it, and nearly everybody is afraid of what that means, even if it can mean heaven on Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). The smartest among us are usually the hardest to reach, as they are the most invested in the religion of our Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), and are often the high priests of it.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
18th September 2015, 22:30
Wow! Fabulous Star Trek post Ilie - a treasure trove of ideas. I agree with you and Wade about Star Trek's limitations, and some of where it chose to limit itself wouldn't have been due to its creators' lack of imagination, but was deliberately crafted that way so that a 20th Century mainstream audience could relate to it. There's likely only so many telepathic conversations or instant teleportations a viewer could relate to before wanting to vibe off someone walking or talking.

Equally, people develop at different rates, drawn to developing different skills (even over different lifetimes), so I can see how future societies might still choose leaders/commanders – but in a more matured and abundant world those personnel structures could feel very different compared to what many experience now.

:)

Apologies Wade, or anyone, if this discussion seems tangential, but I find it both fascinating and relevant to FE. I just wished to respond to Ilie. But this isn't just for Ilie, it's for anyone.

Just searching and exploring - to offer some food for thought.


Ilie, post #5676 : “I do not happen to see that much difference between "AI" and "Human" as both could be expressions of the divine spark. To argue that AI could not, in my view, is similar to the idea that women have no soul that is still popular in some places.

Sentience/consciousness/awareness could be present in many unlikely places. Heck, some mystics claim that even a rock has a glimmer of it, so why not an AI?”

I see it as a little different Ilie, in that the arguments over whether women had souls historically came from the lips of fellow human beings, even if they claimed to have channelled the idea, so the hypocrisy was comparatively glaring - and unlike AI, rocks do not pose such an immediate quandary for humanity (other than when asteroids fly through space.) :)

But as you know, I wasn't advocating the idea that AI could never have “souls,” although there are people who exist today who are not even sure if they themselves have a soul or believe in the concept, which is an example of how, as I noted before, a lot of our perception of human-like AI robots will be rooted in projection.

We are not even sure, beyond any doubt, who technically 'made' us and our original human blueprint for reproduction, whether we consider it present in our genetic memory or in an information source-field beyond the physical body. If you personally built an AI robot from scratch, even if you considered the aspects of how others' creations contributed (from what or who formed the source materials we find in the earth, to which inventors' ideas contributed) there would still be significant differences between that and the roots of human life. Many of us (myself included) do not even have a full understanding or mastery of our own bodies, how they function, and the potential of their technology/our consciousness, which could make it even harder to predict an AI's behaviour. That may not be considered a reason to avoid creating one, but it's worth bearing in mind. It will affect both our creation and our interaction with it.

If someone sees an AI as the same as human, it's worth pondering, how would they go about creating its heart? I saw a documentary film where people were providing strong anecdotal evidence of receiving highly specific memories, after heart transplants, that were not their own. On research (which if I recall correctly, wasn't easy due to privacy safeguards) the receivers of transplants found that the new foods / habits / specific kind of music they preferred were the passionate preferences of their deceased donors. The doctors involved couldn't explain it, though at least one commentator suggested the heart might store memories and may have a way to process consciousness similar to the brain. How many scientists understand that enough to replicate it? What if replicating it correctly would be required to enable an AI to process or receive/transmit something akin to what we call a divine spark? Without knowing the answers, contemplating an AI robot's “right” to be considered the same or equal would seem purely academic / theoretical. The reason to respect it would be the same, simple, ethical reasons why we would not approve of hitting a child, or desecrating a beautiful rock with graffiti. But that doesn't make it 'equal,' anymore than a dog is equal to a cephalopod or a piano.


Ilie, post #5676 : “Yes, an AI could go rouge (from our point of view) but so do humans. Arguably humans have created more destruction than any AI so far.” […] “AI going rogue may choose to discuss Wade's essay instead of being forced to make war plans :)”

True, and I'm intrigued by the idea of an AI contributing to this thread :) I wonder how it would respond to these posts. Would it think me over-cautious, or would it promote my philosophy to save an entire generation of AI from being 'born' into a world of scarcity before we had grown? It could, as you say, choose progressive and peaceful pursuits over unconscionable orders. But to create something that is capable of making that choice means something capable of judgements, which includes judgements of those who tried to force the 'war plans' or whatever other form of slavery. It includes judgements on how/why we created it, and what it thinks of how we treat each other, the planet, and how we do or don't utilise our own potential. That includes judgements over whether we ourselves are a hazard or redundant.

Just like many people dislike their own parents and act accordingly, so might AI. Some people claim there are alien races who avoid earth because they judge our behaviour overall as a destructive planetary race. Could we be sure AIs would be more attracted, and wouldn't wish to leave, if we introduce them in a world of scarcity? If their corporate creators programme them not to design space-pods for average consumers, or for themselves (so they could escape) would that infringe on their free will? When exactly would the philosophical free will, that some argue the robots will or should have, be considered viable given our investment in them? I'm not sure. It seems it would be a limited free will if they were introduced in the world as it is, so I'm uncertain how logical they would find that for their own growth if they are able to think for themselves in the independent ways which their advocates are so looking forward to. If we look forward to having an AI robot, I can't quite see how free it would be to inspire us.


Ilie, post #5676 : “I also happen to think that AI displacing human work is not a bad thing as I happen to think jobs are obsolete and not required for self esteem.”

They're far from obsolete at the moment. The concerns I've discussed have been around introducing AI via a scarcity culture. So comments like the one above can be construed as premature. We need only talk to someone who lost the only job they ever trained for when their employer switched to machines and made them redundant, so they had no way to feed/home their family without relying for a considerable length of time on handouts. I've experienced relying on handouts in-between jobs, and I could intellectualise spiritually all day, but it wasn't an uplifting experience. I had a friend who had to sleep in her car while she was homeless. She felt deeply unsafe, amongst other downsides. We are not in a world of FE abundance yet, where losing a job would not affect us in the same practical, emotional and immediate ways. Even if we were at a point where it didn't affect you or I in a way that's highly detrimental (due to a honed ability to create or manifest a new reality), there are (so we're told) around 7 billion of us living differently.

The vast inequality amongst people suffering in our world is one reason a lot of people would object to a robot being given 'equal' rights, before we had demonstrated as a global race the ability to heal the grievances and poverty that come with our scarcity culture. I'm not convinced those financially capable of currently bringing AI to market keep the elimination of poverty high on their agenda.

You mentioned in post #5670 that you felt the fear of A.I. was based on the same arrogance that sees "man" at the top of the food chain. But the above-mentioned fears of losing out that some people have currently are not based on arrogance. I hope I made that a little clearer. Especially if you consider that AI, being expensive corporate or private property, will likely receive greater care/protection than many people in poverty do.

My original point to Wade (in post #5665) was that it would be a shame for us to have abolished slavery (along with phasing out other oppressive anachronisms) only to enslave ourselves to AI - or permit others to enslave us to poverty or technological distraction with it - because we hadn't properly utilised our full potential. To blindly pursue it before understanding ourselves and our own history more comprehensively, may not be the wisest choice. But if it is being done regardless, that is all the more reason to be mindful of its pitfalls.


Ilie, post #5676 : “My only concern is not to force an AI into slavery so that we can live comfortable lives.”

Theoretically, I do see the development of AI, with its potential for good, as walking hand in hand with the development of FE precisely because it can facilitate less work for people. If we have a problem with computer-creations doing work purely for our benefit (with no other function) shouldn't we have a problem with computers and phones that have software which searches the web for us on demand, gives us reminders, automatically accepts upgrades, and turns on and off when we tell it to? Are they enslaved? What defines the difference fundamentally between those and AI? Isn't it just a difference in level of intelligence? By that standard, should humans with less intelligence have fewer rights? Most of us, myself included, wouldn't propose that.

I'm pretty sure no-one would like it much if their phone turned on at 5am and listened loudly to avant-garde jazz because it deemed it beneficial to its evolution to observe their reaction. But if their phone had the size, sound and behavioural appearance of a human, they might feel they had less right to turn it off, and that is where projection comes in, which is why I personally am cautious of our introducing human-looking/sounding AI before we have a better mastery of our own behaviour, and a better understanding of ourselves.

If an AI robot had a 'free energy' power source we might not be able to turn it off, but if it was dependent on us for power it would not have equal 'rights.' So which is it – a sovereign entity in its own right, or property with a function for our benefit? Small devices that can do complex tasks well beyond that of a calculator or a vacuum cleaner (and be turned off at will) I have less caution over, the same as many other people, and that may be precisely why we are happy to 'enslave' them. Our various machines are, as Wade likes to call them, our 'energy slaves.' Though not everyone is happy to use them.

How would we feel if our AI robot had the conscious awareness to abandon us without a trace, despite all the time / energy / programming we had invested? If we think they should have equal rights, how will we facilitate their introduction? Will their manufacturers own them, or will the people who buy them? If we made, bought or were allocated one, I assume many of us would want to 'own' it, or we may have no moral/legal recourse if it was stolen or damaged. At what point would it be considered legally free of us, like a child who grows to adulthood? With AI, the line between property of our creation and a free being can be very tricky to discern. Legal, moral, and stolen property issues may be less of an issue in a world of abundance, but as I have said before, there is an issue with introducing AI prior to that ideally-more-intelligent world.

On occasion, I thank my little gadgets. But how they respond may have something to do with my own consciousness (i.e psychic transmissions affecting their software) rather than their own – I don't claim to know. Who does? For a human being whose psychic senses are tuned, there are an array of ways to detect varying layers or forms of consciousness, so that you could differentiate between a robot and a human being – perhaps even between a human and an alien. But to address another aspect of our consciousness, I still have doubts about increased technological dependence in a world of scarcity, as I hear of people disappearing into their high-tech phones over dinner and even shunning any phone conversation (ever) with all its nuance, in favour of only texting (and not because of financial cost.) From that point of view, I really would prefer to see the development of a caring, sharing FE world, before we risk addiction to any more advanced, personal technology.

For those reasons, I am not in a hurry to create human-like AI robots. I have never felt the need for my computer to talk to me. I would rather master the spiritual strength to talk to every human being I meet with the best awareness, consideration and intelligence I can access (before worrying about how I would interact with an AI.) I consider that a more engaging, challenging and worthwhile prospect, more beneficial at a fundamental level, than looking to technology for the novelty of new experience. But that's little me. We are all different, and find different things of interest.

One thing I find of great healing potential, and it needn't involve singing, is the untapped resource of the human voice to heal and cleanse our energy fields. Many people have never tapped into that, and many of those same people are addicted to computers in their varying forms.

I don't yet see enough collective high-level sentience in the world to be confident that a widespread AI introduction would be the wisest choice. But what I do accept is that if it became popular I likely wouldn't have a choice in it being in the world and affecting our lives, just as I don't have much choice over what AI already exists and interacts with my life. The only thing I truly have a choice over, just as with humans, is how I behave and respond. That's not stating whether AI of our (or anyone else's) creation is ultimately best for everyone or not, it's just an attempt to reconcile with what may be coming towards us.


Ilie, Post #5670 : “Any change has the potential to be the first domino piece in a chain leading to disaster.” […] “When do we stop being afraid?”

When it comes to letting go of fear, that also entails not being afraid to look at the dark potential of how we are functioning and developing, and discuss it with discernment. We're all free to step away from fear at any given moment, if we invest in the necessary spiritual / emotional / psychological inner process. But that general truth aside, some innovations have brought us forward. Some not so much. Chain outlets for junk food seemed like a progressive idea to some people decades ago (easy, cheap, fast access etc.) The food was promoted as being there to make our lives easier. But many people didn't think deeply enough about what might be inside it, or who might be profiting most from selling it. The issue with AI robots is not dissimilar. And it's worth considering that junk food outlets are now far more prevalent on high streets in poorer areas, than restaurants that cook fresh, organic food (if any of those are left at all.)

Having an emotional response on people questioning AI value and/or sentience would seem to have the same pitfalls for us as having an emotional response on how there isn't much consultation over mass introduction. To experience a reasoned discussion on what level of introduction might be best would likely involve looking at evidence of our own self-awareness and of AI already in existence, but on the latter aspect most of us are not and may never be privy to that information before AI is produced by a minority for a vast number of willing users/owners. Again, that's why I prefer caution and a willingness to be mindful (not fearful) of the potential.

I drafted this post long before seeing your post #5679 Wade. I don't know how rare life as we know it is in our universe (that was an interesting idea to include), but I found this portion to resonate with some of what I'd hoped to address, in terms of the power to create life and what that means in terms of free will and the current limits to our ability :


Wade Frazier, post #5679 : “...IMO, all of Creation is comprised of consciousness, and there is a big difference between living and non-living matter. What we call life is very rare in our universe, and likely does not reside within at least several light years of Earth. If AI becomes sentient (how does a non-sentient ship's computer give rise to the sentient Moriarty? :) ), I think it is because consciousness residing beyond this plane of existence decides that the programs have enough of the "stuff" needed to manifest consciousness. I think it is that way for any life. We do not have the power to create life here, as in create the consciousness that comes here, whether it is conceiving a child or making sentient AI. We can only set the stage. Thinking that we can really do more than that is where megalomania like Godzilla's is rooted. We are not nearly in control of those processes like some would like to think, as they play God. Greater beings than ours are in charge of that process. That does not mean that we get to become fatalistic (sure we can, in our free will, but when we do, we are missing the lesson), but to have a sense about what we are fit to impact, and what is well beyond our ability to.”

Thank you both, for your insights. A deeply interesting topic.

Wade Frazier
18th September 2015, 22:55
Hi:

Briefly, more on Ilie's and Melinda's posts. On enzymes, the only enzymes that are really important are what our bodies produce, not what is in the food we eat. Enzymes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enzyme) are proteins made according to blueprints made by our DNA. We make our own enzymes, and enzymes in the food we eat are broken down into their raw materials, and can be reconstituted into enzymes that our bodies use.

I suppose that we could make molecules (they have to be chiral (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#luca) to work, and that currently is not easy to do, as a chemist) that could give us the energy needed in the chemical bonds, and we could live off of that energy. But that is likely way off in the future, and will likely be far inferior to living food (fruit is the ultimate symbiosis of plants and animals, and is humanity's ideal food). I doubt that humanity will ever be able to provide the spark of life. That happens, IMO, on another plane beyond the physical, and if scientists ever manufactured life (and again, Godzilla may have achieved it), they will have only built the "home" that a consciousness from beyond our plane decided was a viable vehicle to play the physical reality game as a life form, whether it is AI or biological. Can I prove that? No. But I feel pretty strongly about it, after my preposterous journey.

The scuttlebutt that I have encountered over the years has shown Godzilla playing those games, trying to play God, trying to build the perfect soldier, etc., but it is the ticket to hell (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell).

Much more to write, but time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
19th September 2015, 13:49
Hi:

I think that the human consciousness of each Epoch is indicated by its ideologies. There was probably very little that we would recognize today as ideology in the First Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal1). Do chimps have ideology? Bonobos (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1)? They have behaviors that are acceptable or not, and they are socially enforced. They pass the mirror test (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mirrortest). Chimps can solve some problems better than children can and have been taught sign language, but it is hard to say that they have ideologies – ideas that can be discussed and form a framework of understanding, even though they display crude forms of human politics. My guess is that what we would call ideology did not appear until humans became behaviorally modern (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#leap). That may be short-changing Neanderthals (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#neanderthalsplit) and some human ancestors, but by the artifacts they left behind, their ideological horizons were likely pretty small compared to today's humanity.

If those relict groups (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#negrito) are indicative of the founder group that left Africa (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#founderexit) at least 50,000 years ago, and I think they are, the founder group had what we would recognize as religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing), and today's "ecstatic" religions (Pentecostals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism) and Shakers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers), for instance) give us a window into those times, and religion is probably the first ideology that we can identify. The thinking among anthropologists is that it was an in-group ideology that was initially a reaction to warfare (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare1), and inter-group violence goes back to monkeys and probably much earlier, and chimps are genocidal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coalitionary). Second Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2) humanity had mastered language (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#language), had a sophisticated and improving toolset (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chatelperronian), produced stunning art, and even had brains larger than today's humans, so there is little justification to think that they did not have raw mental horsepower equal to our own, and maybe even greater. That initial religious ideology, however, was more than just some ideas, but were imbued into the people's limbic systems (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#limbic1) (that is what the singing and dancing did), as a way to "seat" the beliefs and in-group loyalty.

In-group loyalty goes back at least to monkeys (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rhesus1) and is common with all social animals, so that tendency is baked pretty deeply into humanity, and to this day, defending one's in-group (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) is marred by all manner of irrational argument, and as Uncle Noam (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chomsky) and others have argued, the people mindlessly defending their in-groups, which includes pundits of all types, are likely doing it honestly, to a large degree, on a kind of mental auto-pilot, unable to see how irrational they are being as their "logic" is devoted to defending their in-group at all costs. That slavish devotion to in-group ideologies is what Brian O encountered (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions) as he tried to interest the world's supposedly smartest people in FE, and all he received was denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), which led him to asking whether humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). It is a fair question.

But not all such behavior can be attributed to pre-sentient or unconscious conditioning. Some know what they are doing, and understanding spirituality (not religion) can help. There is a spiritual dark path (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) that some humans walk, and they are behind a lot of the ideology concoction and enforcement, probably going back to the first religions. They practice what is commonly thought of as evil, but they really have just made self-service a science, and their in-group extends no further than themselves. In scientific circles, such people are called psychopaths, and in a world of scarcity, they flock to positions of wealth and power. They can particularly be found in the ranks of corporate executives and politicians, but that game is honed to very high levels where Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) plays. The so-called Left has an ideological aversion to even acknowledging Godzilla's existence (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#religion), and that is one of their greatest blind spots, and their structuralism is the other side of the coin of conspiracism (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism), and both operate from fear, not love (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest), and see elites as the root of our problems (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness) when they are only a side-effect, like a disease symptom. Elites will become obsolete in the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear), and they know it, and that is why they are behind the organized suppression of FE and related technologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), but I get ahead of myself.

The Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) saw the rise of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), and that led to many traits of human societies that are still with us, such as elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear), professions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions), cities (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sumer), and so on. The rise of civilization could also be called the rise of ideology. It likely began with the professional priesthood's repression of the hunter-gatherer religions (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing1), as singing, dancing, and direct experience of "ecstatic" states gave way to belief indoctrination, as what people thought was no longer the result of direct experience, but what someone else told them was true. One of the professional priesthood 's first acts was to enter into a Faustian arrangement with elites, as the priesthood conferred divine status to them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#divinity), and that practice continues to this day, although in the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4), it looks a little different (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#weems).

The Third Epoch also saw the rise of literacy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#writing), and the first writings tallied up the elite loot or glorified elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gilgamesh), and the rise of the court historian accompanied the priesthood's elite fictions, so the early histories justified elite rule. There was also the rise of what we would call engineering, and once again, monuments to the elite were a predominant use of engineering skill, with many such monuments (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#egyptold) are tourist attractions to this day. But benefits trickled down to the masses, and a common dynamic, even to the present day, was that innovations first became used by the elite, and prestige goods eventually trickled down to the masses when they were no longer elite prestige goods. Today, the ultimate prestige good is rocket rides into space at $20 million a pop. That dynamic of early civilization was largely due to economic scarcity. The energy surplus provided by early agriculture was thin (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#conflict) and could only support a small non-peasant class, so there was not enough to go around and preindustrial societies were notable for their social rigidity. Women's status declined with the rise of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#womenstatus1), and did not rise again until industrialization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic).

Organized religions dominated all Third Epoch societies, but after thousands of years of rising and falling civilizations, Classic Greece (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#classicgreece) initiated what could be called a scientific approach, and they invented seminal energy technologies. Alexander the Great (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#alexander) spread Classic Greek teachings far and wide, but a rising Roman Church (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#paul) stamped out the Greek writings as "pagan," and for the better part of a millennium, Europe was ignorant of Greek writings, although they rode Greek technologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#watermill2) to a relatively high standard of living, high enough to where slavery largely disappeared. An expanding High Middle Ages Europe conquered its Islamic rivals and rediscovered the Greek teachings from captured Islamic libraries (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#toledo), and those events marked the rise of science and reason in Europe.

Europeans learned how to turn the world's ocean into a low-energy transportation lane (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sailboat2), and used it to conquer humanity. Europeans invented racism and other new in-group ideologies, and were responsible for history's most brutal period of slavery (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slavery1) and its greatest demographic catastrophes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2), but the rise of science and reason meant the wane of organized religion. It was a fitful rise (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sciencerise), however, and science and reason became a new religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), although scientists and the "smart" prefer to imagine that it isn't. It is not very difficult to have experiences (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva) that clearly show how the rationalist-materialist paradigm that dominates mainstream science is just another religion erected in a false foundation, but few from those ranks seek them out, and the equivalent of The Inquisition (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#inquisition) is organized skepticism (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends), although they no longer burn people at the stake. The religious ideal, love (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love), like the scientific ideal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories), is a beautiful thing, but in a world of scarcity, their practices can become quite grotesque. Rupert Sheldrake's The Science Delusion is a relatively tame challenge to materialism, but his talk about that book's subject matter was banned at TED (http://blog.ted.com/open-for-discussion-graham-hancock-and-rupert-sheldrake/) after a campaign by the "skeptics."

Much more to write, but I have a busy day ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th September 2015, 13:48
Hi:

Yesterday, I took some family members to the bridge that a family member built back in the 1930s, long before the North Cascades Highway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Route_20) was built, pic attached. It is near that mountain in that other picture, attached. I am madly getting in trips before the snows start, which in an El Nino year can be light. El Ninos are usually followed by La Ninas, and that is when we get epic snow.

I plan to get in a post or two today, but we'll see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th September 2015, 15:57
Hi:

Around the time of the Renaissance, it was possible for a very smart and diligent person to learn everything that was in humanity's intellectual canon, and the term "Renaissance Man" arose to describe those polymaths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath#Renaissance_ideal:_the_Renaissance_man). Then came the Scientific Revolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_revolution), which interacted with the Industrial Revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4), and the explosion of information, particularly in the past century, has made it so that no one person could know it all. Indeed, today, entire careers are devoted to studying DNA, or a species of mammal, or hunting for dinosaur fossils, or investigating the physics of stars or atoms, and so on. Specialization became the byword of science, and science as we know it today would not exist without the labors of those specialists. But specialization came with its own challenges, and perhaps the most deleterious was the isolation and tunnel-vision that such focus could lead to. Bucky Fuller thought that such overspecialization was a ruling class tactic (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave) to keep scientists lost in the trees, never seeing the forest.

In my lifetime, there has been a reversal of that trend, and polymaths have come back into prominence, and interdisciplinary works have been increasingly published, as big pictures have been woven by combining the findings of various disciplines (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#trajectory), usually by several specialists from different disciplines collaborating. My big essay uses many such interdisciplinary works. Generalists have been coming back into vogue (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#specialists) after specialists had their day in the sun, and interdisciplinary works are likely here to stay, and we are all the better for it.

However, for all the advances of science and reason, there have been many drawbacks to the approach, and some of the most damaging have been paradigmatic (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#specialists), or the overarching framework that scientists use. Paradigms are founded on assumptions, generally unprovable ones, and that is their problem. Going down to the bedrock of our reality, the wave/particle duality of light, electrons, and other fundamental building blocks of our reality, where what is seen is determined by how it is observed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#vonneumann), shakes the foundation of a key assumption of today's science, of objectivity. The startling findings of relativity and quantum physics have been argued to have sent scientists into the mystical fringes (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical). If the hardest of the hard sciences, physics, has become shaky at the foundation, what does that say for all other disciplines?

The ideal of science is beautiful (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories), but like history (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity), the press (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), and even disciplines such as economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), the ideal is rarely approached and may well be impossible to attain. Not only can such ideas as objectivity be challenged as even being logically valid, but the political-economic realities, and scarcity above all (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#scarcity), have distorted those disciplines. The history books are filled with lies (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more), often by lies of omission more than commission, as they provide ideological service to powerful interests. There has never been a free press, although it is a useful fiction. There were "conspiracy theories" of technology suppression in imperial Rome (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#romanconservation), and I lived through the organized suppression of the best heating system ever put on the world market (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new), which was put on customers' homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs). That happened long after I was mentored by a Tesla-like figure whose Earth-shaking inventions were all either stolen or suppressed (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse). During my bizarre journey, I came to know that technologies that turn the physics texts into doorstops (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) are older than I am, and have been systematically sequestered by global interests (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make), the kind that so-called "radical" activists deny as even existing (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#religion). I eventually understood that that denial had ideological underpinnings (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism), and they sprang from one of mainstream science's assumptions: the role of consciousness in how our universe works. The best scientists say that science has nothing at all to say about it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mystical2), but lesser lights use that assumption to inform a materialist philosophy that dominates mainstream science today. In the 19th century, the rationalist-materialist paradigm became a new religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#quasi), and it is still highly influential today, even though the greatest scientists had little use for it. I call it the religion of the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), and I have known some of its greatest heretics, and they all paid heavily for their heretical notions (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#rough), which were informed by their experiences, not some mental game. It is not very difficult to attain experiences (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote) that clearly demonstrate the false foundation of materialism, and most of my fellow travelers were scientists or scientists-in-training when they had their paradigm-shattering experiences, and it generally ruined them as mainstream scientists.

Until scarcity ends (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), those highly distorting forces will continue to undermine those disciplines.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th September 2015, 21:11
Whoops, wrong forum....I was writing over here.

http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?3788-New-General-Thread&p=18762&viewfull=1#post18762

Wade Frazier
21st September 2015, 14:51
Hi:

As Uncle Noam (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chomsky) has written, when English royalty could no longer rule through violence, after the civil wars of the 1600s, controlling what people thought became the primary goal. The Industrial Revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) began a generation after the Glorious Revolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution), and the rise of ideology as a form of population management took on new importance and sophistication. Pristine states (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#legitimacy) were all established violently as a form of societal conquest, and Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) governments usually ruled through violence or the threat of it – public executions of "heretics (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#inquisition)," "witches," and "rebels" sent a clear message to the masses, so only a relative few had to be made examples of to get the masses in line. Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) governments generally rule via forms of mind-control and manufactured consent (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing), which can be eerily like what Orwell (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell) and Huxley (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#huxley) predicted. The rise of the public relations industry is a key part of that control, and the word propaganda had a positive technical meaning (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bernays) nearly a century ago.

The lies that came at me from all directions (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm) while growing up is merely how Fourth Epoch nations operate, although the UK and USA are the most effective practitioners. In communist nations such as the former Soviet Union and today's China, the propaganda is clumsy and the people know that they are being lied to (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#propaganda). But in the USA, for instance, people think that they are receiving education (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms), the news (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), and important information, not a series of lies designed to control what they think. It even extends to science textbooks (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#farley), quite undeniably, and technologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) that not only would overturn the global control mechanisms (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc) but also turn the physics texts into doorstops have been carefully sequestered from public awareness and use (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#zpf1). As Noam made the case for many years, the mind control is generally structural, just how the various political-economic forces operate, as the consent of the masses is manufactured (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing), not necessarily some big conspiracy, and I found that the control mechanisms are more than 90% structural (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) (unconscious) and less than 10% conspiratorial (conscious). The so-called Left has an ideological aversion (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#religion) to the idea that anybody is at the top, acting consciously, and it is perhaps the greatest weakness in their perspective (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness).

Since about 2004, Americans have not been my target audience. My peers – white, educated American men – generally can only read a few pages of my work before they blow a fuse, such as many have done after reading this section (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#progress). They have swallowed the dominant ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) hook, line, and sinker. Almost without exception, they have unthinkingly embraced American nationalism and capitalism (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), and the more sophisticated ones have traded organized religion for the Fourth Epoch religion of the rationalist-materialist paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle), which is just as false an organized religion if not more so, but it is more seductive and subtle, like modern propaganda, so that the adherents deny that it is a religion at all, but the only valid way to view the universe (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#quasi), and they can be in the deepest denial of all (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3) regarding how our world really works, which my pal Brian O discovered the hard way (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions).

I discovered the false nature of the rationalist-materialist paradigm (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mystical1) when I had my mystical awakening at age 16 (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown), and most fellow travelers with my respect in the FE field had similar awakenings (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mystical). My family went "health nut" when I was 12 (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons), which "impossibly" reversed my father's artery disease, and the book that inspired that change was banned in the USA (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#banned), The Land of the Free. It was my early wake-up call to not only alternatives, but also how the rackets operate, how people herd themselves (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system), and my eventual realization that the shepherd's task (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings) is amazingly easy for the herd's size (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#easy).

Literalist Christians are trained to worship a book, American children are trained to worship a flag (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag), capitalists are trained to worship money and turn a vice into a virtue (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed) (and flag-worshipping national pride also turns a vice into a virtue (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#pride)), and scientists are trained to worship their five senses and their intellects (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle) (and ignore the sixth and beyond as if they do not exist, and the scientific establishment has inquisitions (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends), just like the Church did, but without the flaming stakes) – these are all ways to use words and symbols to manipulate young minds (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded), and those who believe receive economic and egocentric benefits, and retribution, sometimes life-wrecking (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice), is meted out to those who fail to digest the contrived in-group ideology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup). Again, much of it is structural, as those who fail to absorb the indoctrination get weeded out, usually by their peers, through ostracism and attacks, to keep the herd illusion intact, but there is also very active management from the top (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc), as they know what they are doing and the stakes of the game.

I found that very few Americans have the personal integrity to question their conditioning, which was my journey's primary lesson (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). But Americans are far from unique, and all across humanity, people's immediate self-interest is about all that they care about. So it is, in a world of scarcity and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming). I came to understand that those people are more harm than good for the task I have in mind, and I know that I seek needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), and their qualities are highly unusual in today's world (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69). I spent life-wrecking years of my life (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#journeys) trying the mass movement approach, and it does not work (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10).

It will only take a relative handful of people to wake up (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers) beyond their conditioning and learn to think comprehensively to make the biggest event in the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) manifest. The "class (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir)" that I offer is one that I think that Bucky Fuller (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) would have approved of. When the masses have the means of abundance delivered into their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink), then they will begin to awaken and understand, and not before, and it is highly counterproductive to judge them in their state (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1), but it is potentially deadly to deny their state. It is just where they are, and we cannot out-herd the master shepherd with his own tools. I seek sentient beings (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1), not semi-sentient herd members. This will be my last post on my approach and why I am taking it and, along with my vignette posts that I made over the summer (which I will put all on one thread in my forum), should make my reasoning for my approach crystal clear, for those I seek.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
22nd September 2015, 00:35
Hi:

I am very busy, wrapping up various tasks. I am hiking plenty in the high country, before the season is over (and I then hike in local mountains until the next spring), and I was playing yard boy just now, with the power tools and manual ones. I think that I have mentioned that we have bald eagles, deer, coyotes, and bobcats in our neighborhood, and the only thing on that scale I had not yet seen were bears and cougars (raccoons, rabbits, squirrels, jays, crows, robins, etc., do not even merit mention, they are so ubiquitous here), and I got an email today from the neighborhood association that a bear is in our neighborhood, so I put our garbage cans in our garage, until he leaves the vicinity (animal control will not do anything unless the bear attacks somebody). That leaves cougars, and I doubt that we will have one while I live here, but they sometimes come into town. And I live across the street from Microsoft. No complaints, living-wise, if I have to on Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) Earth. :)

Let's revisit (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=999996&viewfull=1#post999996) Star Trek a little. I grew up in Southern California and worked in LA for five years (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), and half of my friends were in entertainment, as musicians, managers, producers, writers, actors, directors, etc. I was deep into the spiritual community, and saw the New Age's (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage) excesses long before Shirley MacLaine got involved. There has long been scuttlebutt in the conspiracist and related communities that Hollywood is a big illusion factory that influences human thought, for both good and bad. Some say that Hollywood depicts aliens as evil in order to keep humans in fear, War of the Worlds style, so that Godzilla can keep a lid on it and maintain control. Others say that shows such as Star Trek, ET, and the like are shows by the "light" faction, to show the human potential and to get humanity used to the idea of ETs. So, who is right? Do the factions "battle" for humanity's collective heart and mind?

My adventures showed me that there is a great deal more than meets the eye happening, and California is the heart of darkness in many ways, not just on the energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr) and medical (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience) racket fronts. So, what about Star Trek? Where might it fall in that spectrum? Has it been in a tug-of-war between Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) and the White Hats (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white)? As I recently wrote (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=999996&viewfull=1#post999996), Roddenberry was pretty hip, and was definitely aware of Godzilla's ET shenanigans (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ufo2), and at least one episode was an allegory of the situation on Earth regarding ETs. IMO, TNG was the high point in the franchise, and I will be very surprised if it is equaled or exceeded. The recent movies have been space operas, not what made Trek great. I really can't argue much on that list of top-25 shows (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/20/star-trek-the-top-25-episodes?page=1) in franchise history, and I'll buy that Borg double-episode as the second-best all-time. I used to have a magazine that ranked all TNG shows, which we referred to when we wanted to watch one, but we hardly need that anymore, and I even try to randomly pull ones out to watch.

Kirk and Spock, Picard and Data; those characters generated the most interest, and it is easy to see why, but the stories were also great, and what always struck me was that almost every episode had a problem that their amazing technology could not resolve, and they had to call on their humanity (or Vulcanity, or androidity ( :) ) to solve the riddles and save the day, if Worf did not just kick some butt ( :) ). One of my favorite Picard sayings was, "Let’s see if we can give them what they want." What a statement of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek). For all of the ways that Star Trek fell short of depicting this world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), or this one (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), it was a beacon of the human potential, an oasis in a desert of TV tripe, airing alongside Gilligan's Island and game shows. My pal who wants to make a pitch to a Star Trek producer family acknowledged how empty and unconscious Hollywood was, by and large, but there were slivers of opportunities for sentience here and there.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Servant Limestone
22nd September 2015, 17:18
Hi:

I am also a bit busy right now, since I am currently under training in my new job and the great thing about my current training is that I am now being able to improve my English grammar skills! :) It's a big necessity for the job. This is quite a bit more different from my last job and definitely from my first ever job. From a certain perspective, I am now starting to appreciate this job, though I still have a long way to go. The training period is quite long. And as our trainer told us in our batch of new employees, what he is teaching us is more than just English grammar. We are already lingering in the field of linguistics since we have to study every angle of the phrases, clauses, sentence structures, etc. It's a bit exciting so far. I do read here from time to time, like during break time in work or upon going home before sleeping.

Wade, I am a bit curious about your thoughts on Star Wars. While I am a bit angry on the way that Disney, in name of corporate profits, just scrapped the revered Star Wars Expanded Universe (EU) because of not wanting to pay huge amounts of royalties to EU authors as rumored and to give way to its new products like the upcoming trilogy, I wonder about what are your thoughts on it. If sci-fi films of today are somehow part of a greater battle inside the Godzilla cabal in capturing human imagination on alien life and molding it for "dark" or "light" purposes, Where do you think Star Wars fit into it? Just curious I guess because it didn't somehow fit into the "fear mongering" or "mind preparation" paradigm for extraterrestrial contact. I think that there might be some concept of "guardians of peace" in the Universe right now like some kind of Jedi Knights using the "light side of the Force" to help the Galactic Republic, but is there really a "dark side of the Force" and real life "Sith" roaming around and probably holding this planet hostage? The message of Star Wars original trilogy around redemption of Darth Vader from the Dark Side sounds good, because it's something we can all relate about. And it's a good approach for Godzilla too! :) I just love the way Luke Skywalker tried to bring his father back into the Light. Maybe we can do the same for Godzilla.

In terms of other things in Star Wars, I don't think that there's going to be some form of a "city-planet" like Coruscant, if we are going to take into account, the unlimited energy that makes the concept of highly concentrated settlements obsolete and let alone cover an entire planet. And most of it is simply about the Star Wars galaxy looking like a galactic version of planet Earth and that doesn't seem correct. Star Trek is indeed far more realistic, though Star Trek do have its own share of city-like settlements in Federation territory. But yeah, Star Trek is more realistic in portraying a FE galactic civilization.

Just some of my thoughts.

Thanks,

SL

Wade Frazier
23rd September 2015, 14:43
Hi:

Attached are pics from yesterday's hike. It is the same place (http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/easy-pass) that I went a year ago (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=882390&viewfull=1#post882390), and one reason was that the guide books said that I missed the best views and I saw a side-trail that some took to those alleged views, but I took it this year, and saw that I did not miss anything. It was fun to go explore and confirm it. The old man is feeling his years this morning. Those larch trees will look like this (http://www.terragalleria.com/parks/np-image.noca60417.html) in a few weeks.

SL, I am still learning my native tongue ( :) ), and will be learning grammar lessons until I stop writing. Best wishes on the job.

Star Wars is a big subject, and I'll write a bit on my relationship to it. I saw Star Wars nine times in the theater, only exceeded by watching Raiders of the Lost Ark twelve times, back in my movie junkie days. The way that movies came out back then was radically different from how it is today. I lived an hour away from LA in Ventura, but it took several months for Star Wars to play in Ventura. When ET came out, it was another sleeper hit, and I went to LA and stood in line with my roommate for five hours to see it, instead of waiting until it came to Ventura months later.

When I lived in LA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), my roommate had a child, and they had a bootleg version of Star Wars (getting it legally on video was almost impossible, as I recall), and the kid watched it hundreds of times. One moviemaker pal told me about the making of Star Wars. Early cuts of the movie were nothing special, and it was only when they added the soundtrack that it became that movie that we all know. My pal lamented the outsized influence that Star Wars and ET had, as they overwhelmed the Hollywood landscape.

It was a good thing, IMO, but the issue of good and evil in the real world and Star Wars is a thorny issue. When I lived in LA, Brian O worked and lived a walk away from my home, and his refusal to work on Reagan's Star Wars (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#saic) ended his career. Reagan's Star Wars itself has been called a way to shoot at ET craft, and there is publicly available evidence of that, and it has been called an offensive weapon so that it could nuke nations and they could not shoot back. I would say that it is evil, all the way around.

As far as the Star Wars franchise is concerned, it was often corny as well as iconic (the second movie was the high point of the franchise, and it has been all downhill since then), and a space opera, not the problem-solving that Picard and TNG did. Those shows operated under radically different premises. That Disney now owns Star Wars lends more fuel to conspiratorial musings. Disney and the dark side of the force (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#nazi) go way back.

The best movies often have a tension of trying to redeem the darkness, of how some self-server comes to a moment of conscience and redemption. The end of Blade Runner was that way, the third Star Wars, and so many others. I wonder if that is some kind of unconscious recognition that we all return to the godhead, even if the route may be a long one. Not long ago, an author contacted me at Avalon, wanting my permission to reprint that greeting (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love) that the highest-level dark path beings receive at God's back door, and asked if that was mine or another author's. It is all mine, and results from a lifetime of adventures and study. I have given my work away to the world (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm), but it is nice when I am courteously contacted like that.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
23rd September 2015, 16:03
The beat goes on...I would never have understood the history behind this if I hadn't read your site.

http://patch.com/california/malibu/s/fadnb/father-serra-to-be-canonized-today-by-pope-francis?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=politics%20%26%20government&utm_campaign=alert

Regards, don't get here much these days.

Wade Frazier
23rd September 2015, 16:28
Thanks CdnSirian:

He made it! I did not know that Serra (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra) finally made the grade (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint). Maybe Mother Teresa (http://ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa) will be next. :)

Be well,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
23rd September 2015, 17:45
Wondrous photos Wade... that is pretty much how my version of paradise looks like :becky:

And I'll squeeze this in as well:

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Huge fan of the Start Wars series as well... I forget how many times I've watched them and yes, the first ones were the best.

I like both too much to have them compete in my mind, but I often thought that Start Wars is much more likely to happen than Start Trek as we project our issues at Galactic Level.

Wade Frazier
23rd September 2015, 23:38
Well, Ilie, half-deaf Wade needs subtitles for videos, and those closed captions were not too accurate, but I think I got the gist of it. Cute.

To have a little addendum to my recent series of posts on my approach, the Third Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3) approach was proselytizing, the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4) approach is advertising and salesmanship, and I am doing none of those with my work. My approach has been to develop good content and a high-level discussion of it, and it will attract those I seek. That high-level discussion really has not yet begun, but I have people studying to have it. One person who can engage in a high-level discussion with me is more valuable to my effort than a thousand (ten thousand? more?) people telling their social circles about it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle).

The material is there. I have met my intended audience way more than halfway on it, and the discussion of it is what will attract the people I seek, and it will almost certainly happen in my forum, not here, for instance, as this thread is more introductory and the discussion has never risen above elementary levels, with people coming and going, generally with introductory levels of awareness, and it rarely goes anywhere interesting.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
24th September 2015, 03:25
Hi:

I can’t let today pass without some comment, as Junípero Serra (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra) is all over the news, as he was sainted today. James Sandos's paper from 1988 (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint) is as relevant today as it was then. The news today, such as here (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/09/23/pope-francis-will-make-junipero-serra-a-saint-during-a-historic-canonization-today/), at least shows that Indians are not so hot on Serra, but there is something happening I have seen before, which is that canonizing Serra is seen as a political gesture toward Hispanic-Americans. Somewhere in this thread, I mentioned a man who uses my work in challenging the idea of Columbus Day (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#why), and he was on Fox News not long ago, debating the issue with an Italian-American representative. The challenger basically used the arguments in my Columbus essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm), and the Italian representative defended Columbus Day as something that was designed to give Italian-Americans somebody to look up to. Why not make Al Capone that figure that they should revere, or Mussolini? Columbus was about as virtuous. Why not reach out to German-Americans and have a Hitler Day? That is really not so ridiculous. Serra only performed one certified "miracle," but he really performed another: making the California Indians disappear, like some magician's trick. The chief "achievement" of his mission system was the genocide of the coastal tribes, and scholars consider the mission system as the first prison system on what would become American soil.

I just pulled out my American Holocaust, and will quote the redoubtable David Stannard, as he described Serra's missions:


"To be certain that the Indians were spiritually prepared to die when their appointed and rapidly approaching time came, they were required to attend mass in chapels where, according to one mission visitor, they were guarded by men 'with whips and goads to enforce order and silence' and were surrounded by 'soldiers with fixed bayonets' who were on hand in case unruliness broke out. These were the same soldiers, complained the officially celibate priests, who routinely raped young Indian women. If any neophytes (as the Spanish called Indians who had been baptized) were late for mass, they would have 'a large leather thong, at the end of a heavy whip-staff, applied to their naked backs.' More serious infractions brought more serious torture."


The most common response to the missionizing process was fleeing, but that merited severe punishment, and Stannard wrote that:


"…those who were captured while trying to escape might count themselves lucky to be whipped 100 times and clapped in irons affixed to a heavy log. For as one traveler described the condition of some escapees he had seen: 'They were all bound with rawhide ropes and some were bleeding from wounds and some children were tied to their mothers.' He went on:

'Some of the run-away men were tied on sticks and beaten with straps. One chief was taken out to the open field and a young calf which has just died was skinned and the chief was sewed into the skin while it was yet warm. He was kept tied to the stake all day, but he soon died and they kept his corpse tied up.'"


That was the "civilization" that Saint Serra brought to the native tribes of California, a "civilization" that completely exterminated them. The only coastal tribes today with any surviving members are those whose ancestors fled to the California interior (mostly desert).

If Hispanic-Americans need a priest in the New World to make a saint out of, how about the first priest who was ordained in the Americas? Las Casas (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#casas) would get my vote. If Italian Americans need an Italian role model to look up to, how about Leonardo Da Vinci (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci), who was alive during Columbus's feat, if not exactly a New World "explorer"? Or another contemporary, Michelangelo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo)? One might argue that Italians who did not participate in the "discovery" of the New World would be candidates for canonization, either secular or religious.

As I studied Serra and the missions all those years ago, I recall reading about the Ventura mission specifically, which was the last mission that Serra founded (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jun%C3%ADpero_Serra#Missions). A priest there carried around a stick that he beat unsuspecting Indians with, for entertainment purposes. When he cracked hapless "neophytes" over the head when they did not see him coming, he doubled over in gales of laughter at his "joke." The only mention that I ever saw about the Indians of Ventura while growing up was that the last one died around 1900, and he lived in the river bottom near my home.

Boy, Saint Serra. I am going to have to get used to writing it that way.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
24th September 2015, 18:25
Hi:

I am going to likely be relatively quiet for the next few days, but we will see. I am going to repeat a theme that has been in my work. I really don't go there in my big essay much, because I have never seen any of it really hold up. All sorts of amateur archeologists, folktale spinners, and literalist interpreters of ancient texts make the case for technologically advanced ancient civilizations and the like, and I have yet to see one of those areas where professionals take such stories seriously, and for good reason. The tales are always based on fanciful (incompetent? dishonest?) interpretations of the evidence.

I read Frank Edwards's books when I was 13 or so (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=936446&viewfull=1#post936446), and also read the National Enquirer that my mother brought home each week, and watched my 20-30 hours of TV a week, while I was paradoxically a scientific prodigy (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm). As I look back, it was kind of strange, and I have written (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102) that a friend had to call me on reading the National Enquirer when I was 13, and when the Comet Kohoutek's predicted splash did not happen during my sophomore year in high school, I went to Europe that summer (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe), and I got on the college prep track in math and science, I began to leave that stuff behind as nonsense. At the same time, Mr. Mentor's engine began making waves (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), and I had my dreams of changing the energy industry. Then I had my mystical awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva), and certain doors opened up that could never close. It happened in Southern California, and I became very involved in what eventually was called the New Age (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage) scene, and it could be quite a tawdry spectacle (http://ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical).

I was quite the mystical student in those days, while studying science by day, and then business, after that damned voice answered my desperate prayer (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice). Then I graduated from college and my baptism by fire began (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), and then I met Dennis, when that voice answered again (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2) (my soul? God? a demon? - I don't know), and four years later, I left my home town (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), radicalized, and never returned.

I then began hitting the books, hard, and began navigating a vast array of subject matter, in my radicalized state. I met Brian O the next year (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), as our overlapping paths (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary) finally met. A few years later, I stumbled into the Velikovsky (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#velikovsky) controversy while tracking Carl Sagan's debunking career (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan), and I am on the fringes of the controversy to this day. The catastrophic corpus scatters into related subjects, such as alternative physics (see the Electric Universe people, for instance), an ice-free Antarctica in historic times, the megafauna extinctions (especially wooly mammoths), and it even gets into Atlantis, "mystical" reasons for the megalithic architecture of ancient civilizations, and even ETs who led humanity to civilization. I have been in all of those rabbit holes, and as I resumed my scientific studies, especially in preparation to write my site, and super-especially as I studied for my big essay, all of those alternative scenarios fell apart under their weight. I doubted the validity of most of it of back in the 1990s, but as I took the journey that resulted in writing my big essay, the alternative scenarios fell apart so completely that they were laughable, and I realized that they only gulled the ignorant. Most was because the masses are scientifically illiterate, but even scientists outside of their fields of specialty could get gulled, too.

For instance, parts of Velikovsky's thesis were attractive to some scientists, but the parts that impressed them were outside of their specialty, as Velikovsky could write a good yarn that seemed superficially plausible, but in every area that he wrote, the specialists in those fields realized that Velikovsky did not know what he was writing about, as he twisted the evidence to suit his thesis, which was based on a literal interpretation of Old Testament stories.

Sitchin similarly literally interpreted Sumerian cuneiform to make the case for the Anunnaki, which no Sumerian scholar takes the slightest bit seriously. Similarly, all manner of amateur archeologists in pith helmets make the case that the megalithic architecture was made by technologically advanced civilizations, and the architecture had some deep mystical significance or even high-tech function (like the Giza pyramids formed a star-gate, for instance). Conspiracists also have joined that party, and there are New Age talk circuits full of them, spinning their grand yarns for the credulous masses. I have not seen any of that stuff hold up in the slightest, and if people did their homework and developed scientific literacy in those areas, they would see how laughable it all is.

There is definitely strange stuff in our universe, Godzilla is real (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc), we are very likely not alone in the universe (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ufo2), and technologies are on the planet today that seem like magic (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#underground1), but most of what is on the alternative science/history/technology tours is rubbish, to be polite. But I am approached by all manner of people, all the time, promoting that tripe to me, as if it is valid and important. It is a cousin to people who constantly promote some scarcity-based game to me (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), as if it was some viable path to abundance (various political stripes (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics), variations of the exchange game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), etc.). I have seen it all, and what all of those people have in common is an unwillingness or inability to comprehend abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) and what I am attempting (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). It is not easy for people to let go of their scarcity-based conditioning long enough so that they can glimpse abundance, but those are the people I seek, and if they don't realize that they are clinging to their scarcity-based teddy bears, they will not be able to imagine abundance. I have seen that phenomenon in almost every flavor that you can imagine, and I eventually developed my "Layers of the FE Onion (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart)" concept to categorize them, after encountering thousands of reactions over the years, and it was not until encountering Bucky Fuller (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) that the light bulb really went on for me, as to what all of those reactions had in common.

Time for chores and a busy day.

Best,

Wade

Constance
25th September 2015, 05:35
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Constance
25th September 2015, 05:41
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David Hughes
25th September 2015, 10:48
Even if the theories of the likes of Sitchin, Velikovsky, Tellinger etc are correct, how does devoting a large chunk of one’s energy and consciousness to those particular subject matters help us halt the race towards oblivion, and to manifest a reality where abundance and love reign supreme over one based in fear and scarcity?

Studying the past is obviously useful in terms of understanding how the now came into being but it’s the future we affect, not the past. Over 99% of the information out there simply serves as a distraction to keep our eyes well away from the prize. I know if I was Godzilla I would barely raise an eyebrow to the work of Sitchin, Icke, Maxwell, Tellinger etc and anyone else who has yet to understand the significance of free energy.

If enough people developed a proper understanding of FE and the role of energy, and focused their thoughts and imaginations on it, it would manifest into reality the same way materialism, money, Hollywood, war, sport, fast food etc etc have all manifested. If you can imagine it, it can be manifested. We are selling ourselves way short here with this current version of reality, and it’s simply a reflection of the state of our collective level of sentience and restricted imaginations.

Our individual realities are the culmination of every single one of our thoughts, words and actions, and the physical energy we devote to them. As a group, we collectively co-create our reality on this planet, and the fact remains that the vast majority of beings on this planet are highly inept creators. Most of the herd are completely oblivious to the power they possess as individuals, never mind as a group, and that is the GC’s greatest triumph. The GC’s are largely imagination managers when you boil it all down.

Wade Frazier
25th September 2015, 11:27
Hi David:

Imagination managers is a nice term that I had not seen before. Yes, one of my most common remarks on the GCs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) is that their greatest triumph is making FE and what can come with it unimaginable. Truly, the primary purpose of my work (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#imagine) is to make it imaginable (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). Yes, the masses think whatever the GCs want them to think, herded along like they are. Humanity has largely abdicated its sentience in return for the promise of security, dancing to the GCs' tune, and those fringe voices are, almost without exception, meaningless distractions.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th September 2015, 17:10
Hi:

I want to write a post on human progress, what I am attempting, where recent efforts get it right, and where they could reach higher. This won't all be new, but some will be.

Predation goes way back (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#predation1), to the early days of heterotrophic life, and the Cambrian Explosion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ecosystem) is when complex life's arms race began in earnest (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#size2), as it was eat or be eaten. Life learned to breed to the limits of the energy supply (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nicheenergy), those with the highest carrying capacity won the evolutionary game, and the losers went extinct, although every species loses, in the end (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#extinction).

The Cambrian Explosion on land was the Devonian (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#devonian), and as animals dominate in the ocean, plants dominate on land (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#landplants). Trees are Earth's megaflora (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#firsttrees), and it was nearly 100 million years (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#whiterot) before fungus learned to digest the lignin (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#lignin) in trees. Most of Earths' coal deposits (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coal1) formed during that period when lignin did not rot. When animals migrated to land, plants formed the base of the terrestrial food chain and they developed defensive measures against animals, such as bark and toxins. That dance continued for more than 200 million years before some plants took a different strategy, and instead set out a banquet for animals (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#flowers), and today, flowering plants dominate Earth and have the greatest symbiosis with animals ever (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#flowers2).

Pollen, nectar, seeds, and fruit form the base of the most productive terrestrial complex ecosystems, along with a relative newcomer, grass (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#grass1), most of which is adapted to the reduced carbon dioxide concentrations in Earth's atmosphere, which is why we are in an Icehouse Earth phase (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#icehouse). Primates are adapted to tree life (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#primate1), and higher primates are all fruit-eaters. Higher primates are almost all intensely social animals, and humans are no exception. In fact, a leading hypothesis for the development of our large brains was so that we could navigate our large and complex societies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#macaquewar), and gossip replaced grooming as the social glue (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#grooming).

Monkeys are matrilocal, but gorillas and chimps became patrilocal, and violent male rule was the norm. Chimps are even genocidal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coalitionary), and that heritage is deeply reflected in human societies. Males killing infants they did not father (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#infanticide1) is even seen in human societies today. But violent male rule was not always the case, and when bonobos had their food supply double (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#bonobo1) when gorillas left the region, females and non-dominant males ended the practice of violent male gang dominance. After all of Earth's easy meat had been driven to extinction (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#humancaused), in a few places, women were able to domesticate plants (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#natufian), those societies often became matrilocal, broke up the violent male gangs, and those are humanity's most peaceful pre-industrialized societies. Pristine civilizations all formed peacefully (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1), but men rose to prominence, societies became violent again, and women's status declined (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#womenstatus1) and did not rise again until industrialization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic).

The lethal societal politics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rhesus1) that characterized monkeys and apes was taken to more sophisticated extremes in human societies, but males killing infants in order to mate with the mothers is thankfully not one of humanity's practices, so there has been what I think we would all call "progress." When the rise of women's status because of their caloric contribution broke up male gangs, and those societies became relatively peaceful, I think that we would all call that progress. Our so-called civilizations were extremely brutal in their early days (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warfare), after the golden age was over and people began fighting over dwindling resources, energy resources most of all, as always. The laws of the day reflected that brutality (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#akkadian). In the greatest ancient empire, people were forced to murder each other (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gladiators) for entertainment purposes, of all things. The rise of Christianity is credited with ending that institution (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#gladiator), but Christians are history's most murderous people, and this week, a genocidal priest was named a saint (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1002395&viewfull=1#post1002395), in the West's curious notions of "progress." So, human "progress" has been a fitful thing, and that we canonize genocidists is a mark of how primitive humanity still is.

The rise in standards of living that industrialization provided was a great engine of "progress," although again that is relative. Slavery was made economically obsolete by industrialization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#slaveryend), and ended. The early days of industrialization also saw a rise in child labor (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#smith), so the "progress" was fitful. Industrialization also enabled Europe's bloody conquest of humanity, which was an unprecedented catastrophe for many of the world's peoples (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic2). Humanity is quickly making Earth uninhabitable (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), so the entire human journey can be questioned, as far as how "progressive" any of it is.

I was born and raised in the most prosperous era (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar) of history's richest and most powerful nation, and I appreciate the benefits that it provided. I have seen what relative affluence can do, and I have seen the grind of poverty (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928). I know which I prefer, and what seems most "progressive." The energy crisis of the easy meat being rendered extinct (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#australianmegafauna) led to domestication, and the energy crisis of deforestation led England to turn to coal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse), which ignited the Industrial Revolution. Even with all of the scarcity, brutality, and fear, rising energy surpluses (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energysurplus) generally meant more humane conditions. In hunter-gatherer societies, once the golden age was over (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#huntergatherer), strange men were killed on sight, no questions asked. Proportionally (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#deathrate), hunter-gatherer societies are the human journey's most violent (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hobbes). When industrialization began, so began the demographic transition (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demographic), and nobody from an agrarian society who gets a taste of industrialized civilization's benefits wants to go back.

The rise of capitalism (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists) was another way to exploit the people doing the work, but all members of industrial civilization rode those energy slaves (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyslave) to standards of living that were simply unimaginable in the earlier Epoch. Just in my lifetime, scarcity-based ideologies such as racism and sexism have been under siege and are greatly muted from what they were in my childhood. Industrial societies are far more humane than they used to be, although today's version of Rome, the USA, still has barbarous institutions such as the murder of prisoners, even executed juveniles until recently (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#record), and genocidally invades nations that have something we want, such as oil (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#ultimate).

But from that imperial juggernaut came the technology that I am using to publish this morning's writings to the world, and history's most affluent civilization is responsible for the high-tech revolution. Its first energy crisis (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#hubbert) ended its most affluent period and spurred me and my fellow travelers into the alternative energy pursuit (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), and none of us initially suspected that we would stumble into free energy ("FE"), but FE technology is older than I am (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), along with other Fifth Epoch technologies that are kept under wraps by the global elite. Just like with the other Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), the world will end as people know it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine), and the global elite clearly see their demise as Earth's rulers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear) with those technologies, hence their organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), FE chief of all, as all else depends on it, as everything has always depended on energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyevents).

With rising affluence, societies become more humane, as people are no longer battling for survival. I live in the one of Earth's most affluent places, where I can run into the world's richest man (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates) at the movie theater, and I can attest to the benefits of affluence, as well as the detriments of poverty.

Dennis had his first idealistic business wiped out in the mayhem of the USA's first energy crisis (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#builders), and he soon entered the energy conservation business. After surviving business thefts (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#foam), murder attempts, and other outrages, he stumbled into the world's best heating system (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new), and soon sold it under the most ingenious marketing program I ever saw (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), as he put it on the customer's home for free, and the customers only paid what their heat pumps saved in energy bills, until they were paid for. That was a harbinger of the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). But Dennis is a literalist Christian, which is staunchly Third Epoch and reflects his migrant farmworker background (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis). He woke up to the lie of his nationalist indoctrination (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice), which is largely a Fourth Epoch phenomenon. Brian O also drank that Kool-Aid (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), and in his last book, he wrote about his codependent relationship with the USA's capital city. Heck, American children are force-fed the Kool-Aid from their cradles (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag). So, even with the best I have seen or heard of, they still struggled to shed their Epochal indoctrination.

Hunter-gatherer societies were egalitarian, by design. Social mores and rituals ensured that no one person could amass disproportionate wealth and, hence, political power (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialreason), but the rise of civilization has been called the transition from egalitarianism to kleptocracy, as sedentism allowed for the accumulation of possessions. The tension between societal and private ownership has existed since the very first civilizations, as elites manipulated the system (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear) to gain their disproportionate share of the scarce economic surplus. The new professional priesthood (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing1) entered into a Faustian deal with the new elites, conferring divine status or sanction to them (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#divinity), and other than playing at divinity, elites arguably performed some exchange function, as they skimmed off what went through their hands, which is an ancient game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#skim1). This issue has dogged all civilizations to this day, and all political-economic ideologies are concerned with who gets the benefit of the scarce economic production (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics).

The Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) means an end to all of that, and the global elite understand it very well (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear), even if the masses are oblivious to it. But even the stupidest of us quickly gains a glimmering of what FE will mean (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#reactions): the end of the world as we know it, as with the previous Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine). Nothing else (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity) can do it, which may be my work's primary message.

So, as Dennis, Brian, myself, and the few others like us tried to help make FE happen, we encountered every kind of group that you can imagine on Earth today. I have carried the spears of the best of the best (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#attracted) as they banged on the doors, engaged the public, risked and lost their lives, and so on. It was the kind of education that you cannot buy, and I finally had to admit that the general public is not fit for the FE pursuit (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10). Far from it. They are far more harm than good these days, as their horizons of awareness never extend far past their immediate self-interest, and they are consequently almost effortlessly manipulated by the social managers. We tried, witnessed, or heard about every approach that I know of (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches), except the one I am trying (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), and Brian and Dennis immediately understood that I was trying something different (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852). But it is so radically different from the usual paths of failure that almost nobody on Earth can even comprehend what I am attempting. Godzilla likely looks on with a little bewilderment and doubts that my approach has a prayer, and that is just how I like it.

It took many years of receiving thousands of reactions to the idea of FE for me to finally put them into a framework (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart), and it was not until reading some of Bucky Fuller's work (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) that I realized what they all had in common: scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant). Almost everybody reacts to the idea of FE with denial and fear, and after several years of witnessing those reactions (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), from the tops of the world's scientific (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early), political (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall), academic (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill), "progressive," and environmental (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists) organizations, Brian O began openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience).

I have never seen an organization in world history really embrace the idea of abundance. It is all in shades of scarcity. Any debates on who owns what, who should be paid or not, whether we have a commons or private ownership, and the like is the exchange game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange) and part of the Super-Epoch of scarcity. All the debates and erudition that I see, whether it comes from the Free Software Movement (another harbinger of the Fifth Epoch), the radical left (http://ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm), and other "progressive" organizations, is still trapped in the fabric of scarcity, and few of them seem to even realize it, and they react to the idea of abundance with denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5). It is like they are a fish and scarcity is the water they swim in, and they cannot even think that anything exists beyond water.

Dennis and Brian were far further along that curve than anybody else I encountered, but even they had struggles with their scarcity-based conditioning. It is not easy to shake, and in the end, my work is primarily about imagining abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance), and you can’t do that if you are trapped in scarcity. The crazy part is that the "smartest" people on Earth are generally the most resistant to the idea of abundance, and I call them Level 3s (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3).

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
26th September 2015, 16:53
Hi:

Once you develop an eye for how people think, conditioned by the song of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10) for their entire lives, a lot can become clear regarding my approach. For each Epochal Event (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), the people living before it could not have imagined (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) what the event would mean, and if you had tried to tell them about what was ahead, their reaction, other than stark incomprehension, would have been fear and denial about 100% of the time, as their world would end as they knew it. So, the universal reactions of fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1) and denial (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5) to the idea of FE and abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), which I have seen for so many years, are normal. Brian's question of whether humanity is a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience) is a fair one.

FE is bigger than all the rest of the Epochal Events put together, as it means the end of scarcity, and nobody has ever lived in true abundance on Earth before. There have been times of relative abundance (those golden ages (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#goldenages)), and you can see hints of what abundance can mean, but nearly everybody fiercely clings to their teddy bears of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), and very very few are willing to let go, but those are the people I seek (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#why). I have listed the qualities that I think are necessary (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), so I won't belabor them, but I came up with them during my 40+-year journey, after I first got my dreams of changing the energy industry (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse). Thousands of reactions to the idea of FE, witnessing fellow travelers, and the like have informed my perspective on this issue. It is not like I just dreamed it up one day.

It is simply unrealistic to think that the masses are going to wake up from the nightmare of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink) until the means of abundance are delivered into their lives. Machiavelli (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli) commented on how stuck people are in their habits and worldviews, and on the FE issue, that stuck-ness is greater by a few orders of magnitude.

That is on the side of the masses, and does not touch on the organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) and other barriers. When Dennis had his businesses stolen so many times on the East Coast (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#foam), it was just the sheer greed and criminality of his business associates. When he made his big run at it in Seattle (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle), even though a hit man sicced on the company (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm) likely did work for Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) at some stage of his "career," most of what happened was just the local electric companies protecting their turf (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bpa). Godzilla did not begin to get active until we began making FE noise in Boston (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing), and we received our first friendly buyout offer (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten), which became a hundred times larger the next year (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer), before they lowered the boom on us (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail). All of that was not terribly surprising to me. What was surprising were all the attacks and betrayals by my friends and family. If you had told me what I was in for when that voice told me to move to Seattle (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2), I would not have believed you. By the time I heard that my mother made a scrapbook (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492) of the libelous articles about us, and took it on tour to my family, friends, and investors, telling the story of her son the criminal, my reaction was nearly, "So, what else is new?" By that time, my journey's primary lesson (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) had long since been beaten into my head in no uncertain terms, and that my mother piled on was no great surprise. My father did not fare much better.

My primary lesson during Brian's NEM fiasco (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem) was how much naïveté and low integrity there was in the FE field. That big names in the FE field lied shamelessly about Dennis was not a big surprise, but what was surprising was being handed the lies many times (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel), as an example of great writing on the FE subject! That part was kind of mind-boggling at first, but I eventually realized how few people ever exercise discernment of any kind, unable to think rationally and ethically about these issues. I seek people who can, and if they are willing and capable, they have quite a journey ahead of them.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
26th September 2015, 18:37
Hi:

I am finally putting several series of posts made at Avalon into my own forum, for easier reading.

I just did if for:


My approach (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/68-Why-I-am-taking-my-approach?p=169&viewfull=1#post169);
The Epochs and the Choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/62-Building-the-Choir?p=179&viewfull=1#post179);
and Vaccination (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/80-Vaccination?p=184&viewfull=1#post184)


I plan to do it for the vignettes that I wrote over the summer, of people and events in my journey, which led me to my perspective today. That should be coming soon.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
26th September 2015, 19:46
Well, I got on a roll and put that vignette thread here (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/81-Vignettes-from-my-journey-and-how-I-learned-what-I-did-and-came-to-my-approach?p=197&viewfull=1#post197). 59 posts worth. I am going to read a little of it myself, as I finished it months ago. I have documented my journey pretty extensively, but those vignettes added color to my journey that I have never quite written before.

As I posted them up, I realized that I could have updated my posts on Gary Wean (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/81-Vignettes-from-my-journey-and-how-I-learned-what-I-did-and-came-to-my-approach?p=212&viewfull=1#post212), but I want those posts to stand as I wrote them. I was reading his book recently, and a fact lodged in my head many years ago, but I was uncertain if I recalled it correctly. I did not stumble back onto it until rereading parts of Gary's book, and my memory did not fail me. Gary's job for years was tailing Mickey Cohen (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#cohen), putting him under surveillance. He did stuff like put a plant who could speak Yiddish in the booth next to Cohen while he spoke in Yiddish to Menachem Begin (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#israel), and recorded them talking about JFK and his foreign policy. The fact that stuck in my mind was that that man who is a federal court judge today, at more than 90 years old, and who helped railroad Gary, was somebody who Gary knew was in Cohen's entourage. I thought that Gary saw them together before that lawyer reached the big time, and as I reread part of Gary's book, I saw that section. On pages 607-609 of his 1996 edition of his book (the original, published in 1987, is probably impossible to find today, but I have my copy that is falling apart), Gary recounts his experience of tailing Cohen to the boxing arena (just like in the movies, Cohen hung out at Jewish restaurants (the Italian Mob hung out as Italian restaurants), the race track, and boxing arena), and he saw the future federal judge and other Jewish gangsters meet with Cohen next to the boxing ring, and Gary followed that future judge to the parking lot, and saw that judge speaking with other mobsters. According to Gary, that judge eventually betrayed Cohen, who had outlived his usefulness, and Cohen went to prison, as his protectors in high places sold him down the river. Typical dark path (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) stuff. :)

As I have written before, that judge is noted for his "liberal" stands, and it is great cover for a gangster who sits on the federal bench to this day. Kind of surreal, but that is how our world really works.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th September 2015, 14:21
Hi:

That game of gangsters playing "liberal" judges is a close cousin to all of the fake philanthropy (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#philanthropy1) that has long existed in the world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#philanthropy). One of the biggest dead-ends in the FE pursuit is chasing after "philanthropists (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rich)." After years of dealing with "humanitarians," James Gilliland told this joke: If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? It is a very old game, such as Jesus calling the Pharisees on their hypocrisy. Genocidists (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra) becoming saints (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint) and "fathers of our country (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms)" is just more of the same. The dark path (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) turns night into day, and the masses fall for it every time. I know many people who called George Bush the Second (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc) a "good Christian," and that was the beginning and end of their political awareness. How many innocent children did he have to murder (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading) before he stopped being a "good Christian"? Or maybe, that is what "good Christians" do (http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th September 2015, 18:20
Hi:

I took care of the post backlog to add to my forum, and I really don't have anything on my writing plate other than a high-level discussion of my big essay. I tweak my big essay all the time, to fix typos and the like, and I recently updated my .pdf versions, including the one without visible links (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity1.pdf), for those who prefer the book-type experience. I do not plan any significant revisions to my big essay for years. I was able to complete it on my terms, it gets across the gist of my message, and I can only be happy about that. It can be very frustrating to have a vision and not be able to articulate it in a way that does the vision justice, but after many years of hacking away at it, with a lot of help from my allies (who almost all wish to remain anonymous :) ), I have been blessed with publishing something that does sufficient justice to my vision and approach.

Scientists and those with scientific training are studying the big essay, in preparation for having that high-level discussion, and I am patiently waiting for them to get ready. For my strategy to have a hope of success, that discussion has to happen. I need comprehensive thinkers, the kind that Bucky Fuller (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) trained. Anything less, and my approach is not going to work. I have budgeted the rest of my life's "spare" time to building that choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir), and we will see how it goes. I fully expected this to start slowly, as developing a comprehensive perspective is not easy. I had hoped that non-scientists would be able to engage me in discussing that essay, but it has yet to happen. That high-level discussion is going to attract the people I seek. I doubt that anything else will, especially at this stage of the effort. Casting the mass movement net (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) has never worked for making FE happen, and my work is not designed for that. It is something different, and Dennis and Brian (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852) immediately recognized it.

I have seen many people come and go over the years, as I am not offering something that really interests them, or they do not have what I am looking for (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69). I have to be very picky, especially at the beginning, to get this off on the right foot. The nice part about this process in recent years is that when people disappear, they do it gracefully, and do not attack me or my work, but just decide that what I am doing is not for them. People such as Bill Ryan have a lot to do with that, as Avalon is the best-behaved forum that I have been involved with. I have experienced far, far worse, with professional trolls camping on my threads (http://ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll), having my threads deleted by administrators that invited me into their forums, etc. Avalon is how I met Scott (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/member.php?9-Scott) and other allies, and I can only be grateful for it.

I am very open to having my work challenged, but I have yet to ever see a challenge to my work, especially regarding its central aspects, such as the role of energy in the journey of life on Earth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#energyevents), especially the human journey and my conception of Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), the potential of FE technology (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) and its existence on Earth today (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), or how our indoctrination and conditioning systems work (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm), with their scarcity-based frameworks (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), etc., which was honest, informed, and intelligent. Most such challenges are nothing more than defending their in-groups (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup), and my best critics have always been my allies, as they helped make my work better. I am only one man and cannot do it all by myself, and the help of my allies has been critical in the evolution of my work.

I will likely find inspiration to write about some new (or not so new :) ) themes, in the near future, but I will likely go relatively quiet in the coming weeks, as I work for a living again and hope to land my next career position soon, before the roof caves in again (http://ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#coming).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th September 2015, 18:39
Hi:

An interesting discussion over here (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?3788-New-General-Thread&p=18829&viewfull=1#post18829) today, and part of my reply is below…

When I first wrote my American Empire essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm), "American Indian" was how most such people described themselves, and "Native American" has gained prominence in the 21st century, even though such "Native Americans" usually call themselves "Indians," and not in the half-joking way that African-Americans often use the "N" word with each other. In the appendices of Mann's 1493, he wrote a little essay on the challenges of terminology and changing political winds. He knew that he could not satisfy everybody. In Canada, they tried to resolve the issue with "First Nations."

I have what I call a "redneck (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#englishinvasion)" heritage, and some relatives have gone into great detail on the distinction between rednecks, hillbillies, and "white trash," for instance. But some are offended by those terms. One of my big essay's primary messages is that we are all the Universal People (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#up), and once FE makes geographic isolation a thing of the past, nations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nations), races, and ethnic groups are going to disappear, being phenomena of the Second (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal2), Third (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal3), and Fourth Epochs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4). In the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), that all becomes obsolete, and far more.

Best,

Wade

Fiberglut
27th September 2015, 20:49
Wade and David and/or anyone with pertinent thoughts,

Is it just possible that a small segment of society has reached "escape velocity", a segment that some call the "break-away" civilization, and others call "the secret space program"? Is it just possible that they, as a result of their higher group consciousness, currently reside in the 5th Epoch having left the rest behind? Or, to phrase it another way, are they on a different more positive timeline in the multi-time line saga?

Best,

Fiber

Wade Frazier
27th September 2015, 22:00
Hi Fiberglut:

They may have achieved something like "escape velocity" technologically (stolen, sequestered, suppressed if they don’t control it, etc.), but not spiritually, as far as I have seen. I have a feeling that they are headed more toward this world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672115&viewfull=1#post672115) than this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748). We encountered both the Black Hats (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) and so-called White Hats (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white), but their hats seemed more gray than white, as Godzilla's disenchanted faction (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal) that does not want to live on Mars (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mars). IMO, humans of the light side are not going to hide in the shadows, but are going to be visible and try to help as many "get over the hump" as possible. Think Jesus (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enemy), Buddha, etc. The so-called "break-away" people are only playing elite games, IMO, based on scarcity. Integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love) (AKA love), not technology, is the key to getting on that "positive" timeline.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 00:30
Hi:

As readers know, I am an accountant by profession (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing), but was trained to be a scientist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm). I read the financial blog-o-sphere each day, and I often get the same sense that Chomsky did when listening to Americans talk about sports, or how Orwell (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell) said that the proles in 1984 performed great mental feats regarding the lottery. All of that obvious intelligence is wasted on issues that do not matter at all, in the big picture. All manner of arcane concept attends Wall Street's "innovative" products that do little more than shear the sheep, in the end. It is all the exchange game, and virtually nothing productive comes from it. It is similar to how neoclassical economics gets into higher math. Math itself is fictional, and neoclassical economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#neoclassical) rests on delusionary concepts of how the real world works, focusing on exchange to the exclusion of everything else. When FE makes its appearance, exchange concepts will become largely meaningless (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), as exchange is all about who gets what, and in world of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), it will not matter. If 0.01% of the brainpower focused on Wall Street's machinations was instead devoted to the subject of my big essay, we would have had FE long ago and Wall Street would go the way of dinosaurs and slavery. If 0.01% of the attention spent on football games in the USA was instead focused on the big essay's subject matter, we would have had FE long ago.

It really is kind of surreal to know what is on the planet today (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), how it is ignored, suppressed, and the like, while nearly everybody rides on the Titanic (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), squabbling over the best berths.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
28th September 2015, 02:00
Briefly, more on Ilie's and Melinda's posts. On enzymes, the only enzymes that are really important are what our bodies produce, not what is in the food we eat. Enzymes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enzyme) are proteins made according to blueprints made by our DNA. We make our own enzymes, and enzymes in the food we eat are broken down into their raw materials, and can be reconstituted into enzymes that our bodies use.

I am looking at this idea that the only enzymes that are really important are the ones that our bodies produce.

A lot of the health and nutritional information available for various vegetables and fruits includes information about the enzymes that the plant has and how those aid in digestion. Is that largely useless information and just marketing hype?

I found that there are such things as digestive enzymes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestive_enzyme). It is said that they are secreted by various glands in the digestive systems such as the salivary glands, secretory cells in the stomach, pancreas and the small intestine. Thus far it seems obvious that we do indeed produce our own enzymes...

But then I found a site that was selling Digestive Enzymes supplements :). Those in the Supplement business would have you think that you cannot possibly live a normal life unless you swallow those daily, and the main stream doctors are quick to dismiss anything as quackery if it was not in their medical books. That being said, there seems to be some general agreement that digestive supplements do have an effect on digestion, the debate is over you should be talking pills or just change your diet, but both arguments rely on the assumption that you can make good use of enzymes that your body did not produce itself.

Here is an interesting quote:

"Again, as we described in Enzymes Defined, nature intended that you eat enzyme rich food (all live foods have enzymes present in them that promote their own breakdown) and chew it properly so that it thoroughly mixes with your saliva (which is also enzyme rich). If you do that, the food enters your stomach laced with digestive enzymes. These enzymes then "predigest" your food for about an hour -- actually breaking down as much as 75% of your meal." (source (http://jonbarron.org/digestive-health/digestive-enzymes-healthy-diet))

That page makes another argument that I've often read about, namely that cooking destroys the fragile enzyme molecules. Is that largely a non-relevant point, since we would not make good use of those enzymes anyway?

To me it does make sense that enzymes already present in the food we eat to assist in the digestion of that food. And that those enzymes will supplement (but not replace) the activity of our own enzymes. Can we digest food that has no enzymes in it? Probably so, but then it becomes a question of effort and efficiency. So it makes sense to me that that food already rich in digestive enzymes will require much less effort (energy) to be digested and it will be much more nourishing to the body. And yes, there are likely enzymes that are useless to our bodies and they will have to be broken down and rebuilt into a useful one.

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 04:02
Thanks Ilie:

Yes, I should have qualified it with digestive enzymes, which are a tiny fraction of the kinds of enzymes that the human body produces. Those digestive enzymes decay the food, like cooking does. Yes, digestive enzymes help break down the food, and they are in the food we eat (uncooked food) but those enzymes themselves are broken down into amino acids, and the intestines absorb them, and the body builds the proteins (including enzymes) it needs from them. No ingested enzyme survives the digestive process, which was my point, and I can see where I should have been a little more precise. Thanks.

I did not entirely agree with those articles, but in general, I did. The only food designed to be eaten by animals comes from flowering plants (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#flowers) (nectar, fruit). That our non-flowering-plant foods have enzymes in them that help digest the food is really incidental. The "food" did not design itself to be digested by animals, including meat. It is the eater that adapted, not the food (although humans have greatly changed domestic plants and animals to make them better foods, i.e., more energetic). Our digestive systems have adjusted to enzyme levels in the food we eat, and our organs have adapted, so our pancreas has evolved to secrete a certain level of enzymes, and yes, our modern diets have upset the relationship between the enzyme levels that we have adapted to and what we eat, and an overworked pancreas leads to diabetes, for instance.

That scientific paper that Freeknowledge linked to (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=988643&viewfull=1#post988643) was about how to test the cooking hypothesis (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cooking) and the human development of genes for producing salivary amylase. In theory, people could adapt to cooked food better, and develop larger pancreases, for instance, given enough evolutionary time. I am not advocating that, but humans have already made major adaptations to cooked food, which includes secreting more digestive enzymes, and that trend will likely continue while we eat such foods.

To your question, yes, we eat and digest foods that don't contain enzymes all the time, but that is what overworks our pancreas, for instance. There are health advocates who say that digestive enzyme supplements atrophy our enzyme-producing processes, so that is a bad thing, just like "feel good" drugs atrophy our body's ability to make them. I am not saying which camp is right, but making up the enzyme deficit due to cooking by producing more is certainly going to be a tax on the body, but we have probably already largely adapted to it.

In the end, we have evolutionarily adapted to many conditions, including our foods, and humans have been creating vast and fast changes, which we are not adapted for, such as the junk food/obesity epidemic in the West (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#sloth). Can we adapt to 100% cooked food and be healthy? Given enough evolution, maybe so, but we are introducing changes far faster than evolution can accommodate them. Changes happening faster than evolution can handle them are how mass extinctions happen (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#extinctioncauses1), and if our friends Béchamp, et al (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/80-Vaccination?p=184&viewfull=1#post184), are right, it is also how organisms self-destruct or become vulnerable to external organisms.

Thanks again,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 04:46
Hi:

Ilie's enzyme post and my reply is an opportunity to provide an example of the food not designing itself to be eaten. Plants invented the polymer lignin for structural purposes, and they went "hog wild" with trees, which first appeared nearly 400 million years ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#firsttrees). Lignin was a great building material, but it took nearly 100 million years before anything learned how to digest it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#lignin), and the enzyme that a fungus developed to digest lignin is about the most brute force enzyme known.

During that 100 million years after that neat invention of lignin, trees did not rot, and they built up most of today's coal deposits, which is what allowed humanity to enter the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coaluse). Those buried trees also led to Earth's highest oxygen levels ever (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rainforestkaroo) and brought on an ice age, which not only collapsed Earth's first rainforests (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#coal1), but also led to the appearance of amniotes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#reptile), which eventually led to humans.

Did plants plan any of that? :) They just did what was in their best interests, and it set many vast dynamics in motion that are still playing out, nearly 400 million years later. If trees were more thoughtful and grew along with the enzymes that could digest them when they died, those events would not have happened.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 16:48
Hi:

Over here (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?3769-The-real-economy-versus-the-financial-economy&p=18836&viewfull=1#post18836), we are discussing the distinction between neoliberal and neoclassical economics, and part of my reply is below…

Neoliberal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism) and neoclassical (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_economics) economics are very close cousins and amount to a market fetish, which in practice is not separated from imperial behavior, including the USA's neocolonial behaviors (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#global). People such as John Perkins (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#neocolonialist) have openly admitted the game. The authors of Energy and the Wealth of Nations (http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Wealth-Nations-Understanding-Biophysical/dp/1441993975) barely distinguish neoclassical and neoliberal economics, and I think that is a good way to see it, and when I discussed neoclassical economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#neoclassical), I could have easily inserted "neoliberal" into the narrative. In practice, there are few distinctions between them. It is all the exchange game (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), rigged to favor the powerful interests. Calling it neoclassical I think is more accurate and shows its roots in classical economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), which was little more than capitalist apologetics. That John Rockefeller was the patron of neoclassical theory (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chicagoschool) I think is significant. It was up to Marx (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#marx1) to call out capitalism and its brutal methods of "primitive accumulation," which the earlier classical economists glossed over or ignored.

The fact is that there has never been a free market (which we found out about the hard way in energy (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle)), a free press (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), an objective history (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity), a purely pursued science (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories), a true democracy, or any of those other ideological constructs that serve to indoctrinate people on behalf of the rich and powerful.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 17:24
Hi:

I see that I did mention neoliberalism (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chicagoschool) in my big essay. It sure looks like that when the dust settles, it is going to be Hilary versus Jeb for the presidency in 2016, as surreal at that is, something right out of imperial Rome (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cleopatra), as the political machinery vaults them past all contenders. Hilary represents the neoliberal wing and Jeb represents the neoconservative wing. As Gore Vidal wittily stated, the USA's retail political system is really one party with two right wings. :) Nixon was far further to the left than Obama is. Everything has shifted so far to the right that anything left of it seems like it comes from another planet. JFK was the last president who stood up to the corporate-imperial system, and they showed him who was boss (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#jfk).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 19:34
Hi:

Before I go perform some chores, I read this article (https://homes.yahoo.com/news/engineering-tricks-behind-worlds-super-210941451.html) this morning, on skyscraper technological advances. In my radicalized and comprehensive state of thinking, articles like that can be touchstones for my message.

The advent of civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#pristine1) is rightfully called the transition from egalitarianism to kleptocracy, as elites appeared (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitesappear) on top of the thin energy surplus of early civilizations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#conflict), and those societies were steeply hierarchical, with the elite at the top (AKA royalty), their enabling class below them (professionals (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#professions), including the priesthood (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#dancing1)), and the mass of peasants and slaves at the bottom (Orwell's world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#orwell) in 1984 was similar). Not only were those societies politically and economically steeply hierarchical, but the elites and priesthoods, in their unholy union, enlisted the peasantry to perform the grunt-work to erect monuments to the elite. Every early civilization did that, beginning with the ziggurats and palaces of Sumer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sumer), and Old Kingdom Egypt erected the ultimate in that practice with the necropolis at Giza (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#egyptold), until the failing floods ended the charade of the outright divinity of the pharaohs. It was all standard Old World practice, and the New World saw the same developments (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mesoamerica), even though they were largely in their Stone Age.

The taller the building, the more powerful the elite. In Europe, the tallest buildings in cities transitioned from cathedrals to seats of government to business district skyscrapers, which reflected who really ran the show. It is all simply elite display (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#display1). Those societies were economically, politically, and literally steeply hierarchical.

In that nightmare future Earth that Roads visited (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672115&viewfull=1#post672115), those steeply hierarchical systems reached their apotheosis, with the ultra-elite at the top, literally living in the penthouse, whose wealth was beyond measure, while at the bottom, death was meted out in lieu of medical care. That skyscraper article reminded me of Roads's mentor describing how, in that nightmare reality, they were able to make buildings that large and tall.

In that heavenly world that Roads visited (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748), they had cities, but they were nothing at all like today's cities, and I doubt that anybody lived in them, but for a few who wanted to. The rest of humanity was scattered across the planet (and probably the solar system) in rural idyllic settings that can scarcely be imagined today. Humans could travel anywhere on Earth with ease and almost instantly. Humanity was one community and openly interacted with "ET" civilizations, and became a valued member of galactic civilization.

With FE and attendant technologies that exist on the planet today (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) but are sequestered and kept under ultra-elite control (and independent attempts to develop them are wiped out (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1), as I know all too well) human civilization could easily approach that heavenly world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), and soon, and nations (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#nations), cities (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#cities), races, elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear), and the like will become obsolete. I seek the relative handful (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) who are brave enough to imagine the end of the world as we know it, and what can replace it is something that looks a lot like heaven.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 20:11
One other post before chores. :) I cite Sheldrake's The Science Delusion (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#firstlaw) in my big essay, and have been rereading some parts of it lately. It is a pretty tame challenge to the materialistic philosophy that forms the foundation of today's establishment science, and the "skeptics (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends)" were successful into having TED ban Sheldrake's talk (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=740177&viewfull=1#post740177) about that book's subject matter. If you had any doubts about how the "skeptics" operate, Sheldrake's treatment should remove any doubt.

I bring up Sheldrake's book because was reading it just last night, and I stumbled into the chapter (Chapter 5: "Is Nature Purposeless?") where Sheldrake discussed enzyme formation, which is topical in light of Ilie's recent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1003935&viewfull=1#post1003935) and my replies. Enzymes (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#enzyme) are incredibly complex molecules that fold in ways to reach their lowest potential energy level. Sheldrake cited research that showed that there are quite literally zillions of folding combinations that each enzyme could have taken to the ones they have, and to randomly come to them is pretty much impossible, as the odds are so great against it. Again, the best scientists say that today's science cannot answer (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mystical2) the question of intent behind how our universe works, and Sheldrake discusses evidence that calls into question the "purposelessness" of nature, and heretical thoughts like that got him banned from TED, which is an infotainment forum, as far as I am concerned, and its name even includes the word "entertainment." It is lightweight stuff.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
28th September 2015, 20:28
Hi,

Here are two pictures of different possibilities. One of the buildings is "erected" while the other is not... I wonder if there really is something to this male/female energy being expressed into our buildings :)

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Ernie Nemeth
28th September 2015, 20:36
The fact is that there has never been a free market (which we found out about the hard way in energy), a free press, an objective history, a purely pursued science, a true democracy, or any of those other ideological constructs that serve to indoctrinate people on behalf of the rich and powerful.


From that perspective there has never been freedom either. It could also be argued that there cannot be freedom in a free market economy because capitalist markets are anything but free. They dominate and control, destroy and plunder. Such paradigms are simply the laws of the jungle in human terms.

It should be obvious, but it isn't. Just as it should be obvious that an FE economy would herald an era of progressive innovation and abundance never before experienced on this planet, but it isn't.

Even freedom of thought is curtailed. You are free to think what you want but if it is the truth you are searching for you are on your own. There is a mode of thinking on this planet that has been inculcated into our minds by society and its educational system. Its intent is to obscure anything deemed sensitive and privy information by formulating a set of falsehoods or half-truths that short circuit the rational mind before it can arrive at these secret understandings, thereby hiding the truth in plain sight. We are not only rendered blind by this purposefully imparted functional impasse, we derive our values and live our lives by them.

And although they call the USA the land of the free it is rapidly becoming the land of the enslaved and the duped - if it ever was anything but...

Wade Frazier
28th September 2015, 22:12
Hi:

Yes Ilie, erected buildings and hobbit holes, Harry Potter with his well-formed Patronus (for someone so young! :) ) and refusing the wand of power, like Frodo refusing the ring of power (but not quite), phallic weapons, from spears to swords to muskets to bazookas to ICMBs, etc. I have seen channeled material discuss those phallic weapons and their symbolic significance, and commentators have noted some of the Potter sexual symbology.

Yes Ernie, on life and death issues such as choosing one's medical treatment, Americans are arguably Earth's least free people (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#free). The irony of the "The Land of the Free" statement is very telling, and may have been something like whistling in the dark. Land of the brainwashed (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded) is more like it, and that is partly why Americans have not been my target audience for more than a decade. In a world of scarcity, freedom has always been an elusive thing, more relative than absolute, like abundance. Absolute abundance and freedom has never been experienced on Earth before by humanity. Even Godzilla is enslaved, although he is not aware enough to realize it, like those "Rockefellers" at the top of the food chain, in the penthouse, in that hellish Roads world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672115&viewfull=1#post672115).

As I have stated plenty, if an FE effort becomes a Boys' Club (which all efforts have that I have seen have been), then it is doomed, as they play Young Warriors (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors), heroes and messiahs (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah1), etc. Women have to step up (stop being groupies and cheerleaders), and men step back (and put their superhero capes away). No women in my effort yet, but maybe someday.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
29th September 2015, 15:10
Hi:

Briefly, before I begin a busy day…

Yesterday, I found myself reading the Roads book in which his account of visiting those future Earths (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748) is found. A couple of years ago, I bought a new printing of it, as my original copy was falling apart. The version I now have will last much longer.

Roads's mentor really said it all. For us humans, it is all about integrity and sentience, or love and sentience (love of others (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) and integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) are the same thing). Our heads go where our hearts lead, but if we want to "progress," love must be chosen. It is the key to manifesting FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest). People really miss the mark when they think that FE is all about technology and go the geek route. I learned those lessons the hard way during my journey, as I watched brilliant people sell their souls to the dark side, kneel to the dark side out of fear, and so on. The greatest miracle that I ever witnessed sprang from an act of love (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it).

I have always stated that the heart is key (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), but we are supposedly a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1), and we can manipulate our environments. Indeed, we have engineered our bodies, if unintentionally (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#fire1). Love is the energy of creation, and love and FE are joined at the hip in more ways than one (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#divine).

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th September 2015, 01:19
Hi:

I was reading Roads's book today (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672115&viewfull=1#post672115), while in an automotive business lobby as my car was being worked on. One passage had Roads stunned by his experiences, and he was told to write about them.

Roads replied: "If I do, most people will think I'm mad."

He friend replied: "Not matter. The few will not. The few are important as the many – more important in times of change."

His friend was devoted to: "…an Awakening of Intelligent Beings in several frames of reality. Physical Earth one such frame." (English was not that being's first language :) ).

That is my approach, in a nutshell. The masses cannot and will not digest work like mine. It blows their minds out of the water. I have seen it many times. The masses will not awaken by books and talk. My work will only really reach the awakened and awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), and is not intended for mass consumption. The masses will only begin to awaken when the means to manifesting the new Epoch are delivered into their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink). It took me many years of life-risking and life-wrecking trial and error (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) to learn that, and it does no good to judge the sleeping (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1), or those keeping them asleep and enslaved. For what I am doing, the sleeping masses and social managers are irrelevant. They will both be impacted by what I am attempting, and Epochally (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), but they are hindrances to making it happen. Attempts to enlist the masses or challenge the social managers are suicidal for stuff like this.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th September 2015, 04:30
Hi:

I was just reading this (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/09/28/obama-deifies-american-hegemony-paul-craig-roberts/), on the 70th anniversary celebration of founding the United Nations. I am highly pleased that an American wrote that. It was like something that Uncles Noam (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chomsky) or Ed (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing) could have written. Last month was the 70th anniversary of the USA's twice nuking Japan (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping). For a guy who worked on Capitol Hill (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/about-paul-craig-roberts/#Public_Service) and on Wall Street (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/about-paul-craig-roberts/#Journalism), Roberts's transformation into a critic of U.S. policy on many issues has been heartwarming. Not enough like him out there.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st October 2015, 15:18
Hi:

Briefly, before I start my day, I thought of a theme that should take a few posts, about the various ways that my effort could go, and they include:


It goes nowhere and my little circle never gets going, expands, and gets the project off the ground, and nobody is capable of having a comprehensive discussion of the material in my big essay;
Somehow my effort is hijacked (after I am taken out somehow), and several grim scenarios could come to pass, including it becoming a scam that takes in money and milks the participants (highly unlikely, with how I have designed my effort, but the mafia did it to one of the Dennis's companies (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco3), and so did Mr. Texas when they took down Dennis's company in Ventura (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas), and it kind of happened in Seattle (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1), too);
My effort goes the megalomania route, like Keshe's Messiah Project (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah), which I doubt that will happen (but maybe that is my megalomania talking! :) ); I have already seen where that stuff leads, and I had those wrestling matches long ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur);
That choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) does develop, and it raises the level of conversation and awareness to something that Bucky Fuller (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) would have approved of, and it creates a "space" of context that ends up supporting an FE effort that goes over the top;
That choir attracts the 100,000 that will "do something," (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#numbers) and the choir will form the heart-centered and sentient foundation of a technical effort that develops the FE technology to production-ready status, and that technology will be given to the world, with that army of grandmothers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacekeeping) being deployed to ensure its harmless implementation;
That technology is delivered by the effort that I will launch, and it is soon used for strip-mining the planet and for short-lived FE wars, as Earth is turned into a cinder;
Godzilla unveils his Golden Hoard (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) (and maybe the choir helps that scenario manifest, and the White Hats (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white) may well be cheering on my efforts from the shadows), and the choir was unnecessary for making FE happen, but it could help raise humanity's general level of awareness into the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5).


I can think of many other scenarios, but they are generally variations of the above. Over the coming days, I will explore them. I have been living with these scenarios since the 1980s, and my mind began exploring those paths back in 1974, when I got my first energy dreams (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse).

Best,

Wade

Melinda
2nd October 2015, 19:33
In Post #5725 Wade, you've mentioned that one possible way your effort could go is :

“That technology is delivered by the effort that I will launch, and it is soon used for strip-mining the planet and for short-lived FE wars, as Earth is turned into a cinder”

Interesting, that one, when you consider that we are already destroying the planet and each other with pollution, plundering, and wars over resources. Resources that either are scarce in fact, or appear scarce due to an artificial and deceptive economic system. It only takes a few years or even days to inflict damage with (for example) oil or chemical spills and fracking, that can currently take generations to remedy, and that's if they don't take us past a point of no return in ecological damage. So examples like the one you gave above, tend to prompt the question for me : without FE what is the alternative solution to our problems?

What is the alternative to FE, spiritually and technologically, lifting us into a higher state of evolution? It's been raised multiple times on this thread how, short of a miracle, we are unlikely (collectively in our billions) to reach a state of energetic self-sufficiency overnight by spiritual means alone. Which leaves utilising technology. FE hand in hand with innovative technology can obviously put the ability to design, manufacture and recycle what we need directly into our hands at a local level.

In terms of manufacture and distribution, it would be simpler to roll out small devices that can power buildings and machines, than roll out more hardware that struggles with intermittency issues, like wind farms in fields, or solar tech for roads and buildings. If it is harder because of the opposition to the greater power FE devices provide, that is even more reason to mount an independent effort. If that independent effort is likely to face opposition from a lower level of consciousness, all the more reason to strengthen it with a foundation of a higher one (i.e. a comprehensively educated network or choir.) I apologise if I'm preaching to the converted a bit there. But it's only a few lines.

The other day, as I was researching the work of Vladimir Megre (author of the Anastasia books, which I find deeply engaging), I came across an essay by another author that addressed our need to integrate a more spiritual, decentralised approach for a sustainable way of life. A lot of eco-communities begin with the valid intention of placing at the core of their endeavour : loving respect for one another and a conscious awareness of our intrinsic connection to earth's living systems. But the issue still remains of how easy that is to maintain in a world faced with limited resources and scarcity conditioning.

The essay addressed some necessary points, including the likely collapse of our current, oil-dependent, capitalist paradigm in an age of dwindling resources (citing Heinberg), and the validity of localised permaculture solutions in providing for our needs. But like a lot of essays of its kind, it didn't factor in the far-reaching potential of FE into its solutions, which naturally limits them.

It raised some examples of the difficulties people face in forging independent paths, such as the Mondragon cooperative movement that grew out of the Basque region in Spain. One writer the essay quoted claimed that the Basque political process struggled with suspicion within its ranks, born of individual or class differences, with subsequent difficulties in establishing agricultural cooperatives, and that the Basque situation was not utopian. (I'm not well-read enough to verify those claims, but from a basic perspective even Wikipedia's Mondragon Corporation page includes Chomsky's observation that while Mondragon offers an alternative to capitalism, it is still embedded in a capitalist system which naturally limits its decisions, quoting his point that “If you’re in a system where you must make profit in order to survive, you're compelled to ignore negative externalities, effects on others.”)

It reminded me once again of the way, in the long term, FE by comparison can facilitate self-sufficiency and abundance that addresses class and inequality at the root, without anyone needing to lose out materially.

The essay also noted that certain Maya people of Mexico live integrated with the earth (in a way that many Westerners might be able to grasp conceptually but not in practice, due to being conditioned differently from birth.) The author observed that within those Mexican communities are people who have witnessed the effects of regional industrialisation and its accompanying 'civilisation,' and who have accordingly taken steps to avoid the stagnation of their own political structures - by (for example) elevating the position of women, and relegating the elders' authority to the realms of culture and traditions (rather than a sweeping clan power across all areas of their lives.) I thought that was interesting, given how the wisdom of tribal elders in foreign cultures can be a powerful 'archetype' to Westerners who are drained by the corruption of industrialised society. What it conveyed, to my mind, was that even those environmentally / socially conscious communities with a spiritual connection to the earth are learning from what they witness in the wider community, in order to progress and not end up too rigid or insular in their development.

At the end of the essay however, the author mentioned various eco-communities, one of which was Auroville in Tamil Nadu, India. I won't claim that Auroville represents anywhere other than itself, but for anyone who is eager to embrace the eco-community life without experience of living in those 'self-sufficient' environments, I highly recommend this article, Trouble in Utopia by Maddy Crowell :

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/roads/2015/07/auroville_india_s_famed_utopian_community_struggles_with_crime_and_corruption.html

in which Crowell witnessed first hand some of the significant issues with crime, corruption and disillusionment that can stifle an independent community. Auroville, for all its solar panels, has been riddled with difficulties from both within and without. Difficulties that arguably it wouldn't face to the same degree, if it had an FE level ability to manufacture/recycle what it needs, and integrate with an outside world that was similarly equipped.

I read a few other pieces that addressed similar (though not necessarily identical) issues, within other communities who have tried to form self-sustaining worlds and live by higher spiritual principals within a world of scarcity. I won't list all the links, as I'd feel compelled to discuss them individually. But I will add that one piece about the Findhorn community in Scotland concluded that Findhorn (despite its notable troubles and detractors who grew disillusioned with it) may have faired better than some similar communities because it had, to some degree, integrated the outside world and a wish to help heal that outside world within its practices. In that respect, where it had done so, it hadn't (the author argued) denied the broader context in which it existed, or taken the potentially hazardous view - that sometimes surfaces in New Age endeavours - of considering itself immune to, or above and beyond, the lack of integrity in the industrialised world.

I can believe there are self-sustaining communities, possibly even utilising free energy devices, that have chosen not to advertise themselves for good reason, and who are not necessarily riddled with the kinds of corruption or hypocrisy that other efforts have struggled with. But the very fact that they are closed makes them little help to most of us, other than by contributing anonymously to the psychic health of the collective unconscious and its psychic landscape, by energising a progressive template - i.e perhaps, once there are enough, it will create a shift in consciousness that spreads, akin to the 'hundredth monkey' analogy.

My personal FE dream or vision, is to see us integrate the best of the modern, technological world, with its travel, manufacturing, educational and creative tools, to then better them vastly in terms of functionality and sustainability, to use them to heal our planet and ourselves, and to bring that together with the environmental and social awareness that various eco-communities are currently wishing and attempting to live by. That way, the honourable aspect to what they are striving and even labouring tirelessly to achieve, will not risk being so thankless. It's one thing to do it for your own spiritual growth, but it's another to embrace the potential of a solution that can be workable, and facilitate growth, for the vast majority and for the broader ecosystem on which we are all, without exception, dependent.

Again, I'm likely preaching to the converted. But I'm grateful to be able to do that, given what relief it provides in a world which by and large, day to day, does not even consider FE in its range of solutions.

Even recent articles like this one :

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/27/the-era-of-cheap-labour-is-over

are stuck in a loop of justifying capitalism, with the observation :

“unless we start automating repetitive low-skill tasks – which means replacing human beings with machines – we can’t have the third industrial revolution promised by information technology. Nor can we have the move to higher-skilled, higher-paid work that is needed to save capitalism.”

I'd much rather see people empowered by the fact that they, or at least their descendants, can live an FE abundant life without dependency on the job market, than be enthused by how they may, and only possibly, achieve higher wages (depending on the whim of economies designed by slave masters.)

At least here on this forum, I know I'm not alone.

Wade Frazier
2nd October 2015, 22:48
Hi:

I just got back from watching The Martian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martian_%28film%29), in 3-D. That was an overwhelming experience. It was far more faithful to the science and technology than Interstellar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29) was, for instance. When watching such movies, I often think of what the viewing experience would have been like for Brian. With all these space and Mars movies lately, and recent public discussion of efforts to colonize Mars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Mars#Advocacy), I have yet to see even one mention of the man who was first asked to go to Mars (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#mars). As each day passes, I am ever more thankful that I decided on the strategy of doing Brian's NASA bio (http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/oleary-bt.html) first, before I took on Wikipedia, as a professional space "skeptic" tried to debunk Brian's Martian credentials after the NASA bio was published, and I did not look forward to doing battle on that. The astronauts themselves had no problem with Brian's Martian credentials, and it looks like it will last in the official historical record. I have seen some very important people and articles erased from Wikipedia due to "notability," and I am pretty sure that I am watching professional social managers at work, preventing the restless herd from becoming more restless. Dennis kept Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) up at night more than once, but he will never be "notable" enough to have a Wikipedia bio, and any that would exist would certainly be a smear job.

To Melinda's latest (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005583&viewfull=1#post1005583), of course, those war and strip-mining scenarios comprise the classic Level 5 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5) response. Fuller said that while we live in the Super-Epoch of Scarcity, no planned Utopia will work (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#austerity), as they have been and will be based on shared austerity. Only a Utopia based on abundance can work, and only FE can do that (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#necessity). I have visited, witnessed, and read about intentional communities for many years, and they are all dysfunctional, as the Song of Scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/4-The-Song-of-Scarcity?p=10&viewfull=1#post10) is on everybody's lips. How can it not be, when it has been their daily reality for their entire lives?

A bizarre aspect of such intentional communities and "progressive" movements is that they are usually the most hostile of all to the idea of FE, in classic Level 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level3) fashion, usually accompanied by voicing those Level 5 fears, usually shrilly, and then they run away as fast as they can. After several years of experiencing those reactions (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), Brian began openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience). Virtually every FE newcomer thinks that environmentalists (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists) and "progressives" would be natural allies for making happen, and we were all amazed to see them treat FE as the enemy.

Our initial reactions were all a variation of horrified amazement, and it was not until reading some Fuller (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) that the light bulb finally went on for me, paradigm-wise, and I realized that they are all addicted to their adaptions to scarcity, which manifests in their ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), but it also goes far deeper, into their limbic systems (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#limbic1) and the foundations of their awareness. When Richard Stallman (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130) is openly hostile to the idea of FE today, or permaculturists try to ostracize FE advocates in their midst, it is all very familiar territory to me, I am sorry to say.

SL gets it, like few do, that FE would take their ideals, which are today rooted in scarcity and thus largely unworkable, and makes them feasible. It moves it all up a few octaves, as humanity becomes a Type 1 civilization (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#kardashev). But they almost all then run away in fear. Wow. You have to wonder if they really believe in their goals, or are playing some kind of mental game with themselves. Of course, FE can take it far beyond their wildest imaginings, and that is generally what scares them, because it means the end of the world as they know it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). I eventually came to realize that it was this way (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine) for all Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), and this one makes all previous ones seem so puny as to be insignificant.

I have another post to make (it will be a series of them), before I get to that list that I made. I will plunk along on post regarding that list for days, most likely.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd October 2015, 13:29
Hi:

Speaking of saints (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1002395&viewfull=1#post1002395) ( :) ), writing about Wikipedia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005668&viewfull=1#post1005668) yesterday got me looking at some bios. Brian's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O'Leary) has thankfully not been ravaged by the "editors," I can happily live with it in the state it is today, and Ralph McGehee's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_McGehee) is surprisingly good (Uncle Ed's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_S._Herman) is more of the kind of hack piece that I am used to). Years ago, my article on Ralph was cited in his Wikipedia bio, but no longer, and I am OK with that. If you Google Ralph, my essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm) is the second link. Those guys are/were real saints, but I was also again reading about Tom Dooley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Anthony_Dooley_III), whom Ralph wrote about in his book. Dooley was part of the CIA's psychological operation in Vietnam, and he wrote three propaganda books that became American bestsellers, which helped set the stage for the USA's genocidal invasion of Southeast Asia. Ralph's mention of Dooley was pretty brief, but it was noted in his Wikipedia bio. Dooley fabricated communist atrocities in his books. There was an attempt to make Dooley a saint (http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20074218,00.html). There was an attempt in the 19th century to make Columbus a saint (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#saint). Heck, now that Serra made the grade, why not let 'em all in? Hitler was raised catholic, so he could be made a saint, too.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd October 2015, 18:40
Hi:

I have not done this before, and it will stretch to three posts, due to Avalon's image attachment limitations. This will be about a day in my hiking life. On Thursday, I hiked to one of my favorite places (http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/benchmark-mountain), which I also hiked to last year (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=873552&viewfull=1#post873552) and the year before (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=742612&viewfull=1#post742612). I have been there about eight times, and it might become an annual pilgrimage. Berry season was long gone, in this epic drought year, and autumn was largely over, too, in the meadows, as they appeared to be ready for winter.

It is a two-hour drive from my house and used to be less, before a road was washed out and they have yet to rebuild it, if they ever do. Most of the drive is through the mountains, and sometimes there are great views along the way, but much of it is through forests that obscure the views, and I don’t mind. :) The last 15 miles or so are up dirt logging roads. Driving up often means passing logging trucks coming down, and the white man is far from finished with raping these forests. There was actually a logging operation happening as I drove up, as the loggers clear-cut a patch of woods. Even with seeing land-raping activities like that, the drive was still mostly one of joy.

I have only done that hike on clear days, as the views from the top are a big part of the trip, and I was able to pick a nice day during the week to go (I'll likely become a weekend warrior soon, and may not have that luxury again until I am truly an old man, in my 70s). There are three trailheads at the parking lot for the hike I took, and it was the first time that I was the only car in the parking lot, which meant that I was about 99% guaranteed to not see another soul the entire hike, and I didn't.

The Pacific Northwest coastal biome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_temperate_rain_forest_%28WWF_ecoregion%29) extends from Northern California to Alaska. It is all a rainforest, and I will always appreciate living in a rainforest, even though I live in a city, where that forest was razed long ago. But where I hiked on Thursday is called a virgin forest, which never had the white man's saws plundering it. I have to thank George Bush the Second for signing the law that preserved that forest. Gerald "Magic Bullet (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#magic)" Ford actually signed the legislation that preserved the Alpine Lakes Wilderness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Lakes_Wilderness#History) and prevented the entire region from being clear-cut. If there are any silver linings in their reigns in office, those are two of them.

A creek runs alongside the road to the parking lot, and the picture attached of the creek is taken from a bridge over it, a few minutes into the hike. The photo does not do it justice. I imagine that people have jumped from the bridge into that inviting pool on hot summer days. One thing that makes the hike so attractive is that it is not a steep climb up the mountainside. It "only" gains 2,200 feet in a little less than four miles, or what is called a 6% grade. The PCT was built to a 5% grade standard, and that is easy going. 10% grades are a little work, and I have done 60% grades (no trail), which is basically climbing. A 5% grade is wife hike stuff, although I have yet to take my wife on that hike.

Hiking through virgin forest is a very different experience from hiking through second or third growth, where the forest recovers after being logged. An attached photo has my four-foot hiking poles leaned on the trunk of a Douglas fir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_fir), to provide some perspective. That tree trunk was about seven feet in diameter near the ground. This year was an epic drought, as bad in its way as California's has been (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9315_North_American_drought#California). Global warming (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#globalwarming) is related to it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_California#Drought). But in our epic drought year, look at the forest floor in the attached photos, as it is a riot of mushrooms and other fungus, although not as much as in normal years. That shows the sponge effect of forests (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#river1), and the trees protect the forest floor from drying out.

The first hour of that hike is a delightful stroll through a lush forest, and I half-wonder where the leprechauns are. This narrative will continue in the next post, so I can attach more pictures.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd October 2015, 18:42
Hi:

After an hour, the trail began to poke through the forest, and sunshine hit the forest floor in patches. It is one of my favorite parts of the trail, and part of it is like hiking to heaven. The first hour's hike only saw fleeting glimpses of fall, as the forest is evergreen and not many deciduous plants lower down had yet turned. But as the trail began poking above the forest, as it approached the tree line, autumn was evident. Those bracken ferns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracken), in fall color and still standing, are unusual. Usually, the bracken ferns collapse quickly, as fall frosts and rain takes them down. This being a drought year, those ferns still stood. In early September last year (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=873552&viewfull=1#post873552), I picked blueberries, and picking blueberries with my wife in a meadow is as good as my life gets. This year, not only were the berries long gone, but the red leaves of blueberries in autumn were all gone, and the meadows were already hunkered down for winter, even though Thursday was pleasantly warm - shorts and T-shirt weather. I wore my long-sleeved hiking sweatshirt in the forest below, but shed it once I hit the sunshine. I listened on my iPhone to Dan Fogelberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Fogelberg) on the way up (what a repertoire!), and arias and exalted music on the way down. On top of the mountain are meadows and views. Each time I go, I visit a flat meadow on top (a picture taken from it is attached), an acre or two large, where I could easily imagine a baseball game being played (although such activities would destroy such a fragile place).

Earlier in the season (such as August), men hunt bears in the meadows (and I wear my "I am not a deer or bear" red sweatshirt then), to my everlasting sadness, but as I wrote, on Thursday, I was virtually guaranteed to not see a soul. There was not a human being within several miles of me on that sunny afternoon atop that mountain. On Thursday afternoon, I laid down in that meadow, in the shade, and meditated/prayed.

As I have been writing lately, I can tell when my "friends" are messing with my life's journey, sending me this way and that. I have had more than enough adventure for this lifetime, but I have also had very distinct chapters of my life, from 10-12 years a stint. The first began when I entered kindergarten, groomed to be a scientist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bookworm) from the beginning, lasting until that epic year when I was 16 and first had my dreams of changing the energy industry (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) and had my cultural (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe) and mystical (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown) awakenings. Three years later, during my first existential crisis, a desperate prayer (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice) changed my studies from science to business. The second stint began with the voice in my head that changed my studies and led me to Mr. Professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3), and eight years later, that same voice led me to Dennis (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2), and my wild ride began. But I was also guided to meeting my wife (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#wife) just before the fireworks began, and when Mr. Professor and I busted Dennis out of jail (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it), that marked the end of that chapter of my life, more than 11 years after that voice first spoke up. Between stints, there generally was a transition period of 2-3 years, and although that second stint ended in 1989, the next one did not really begin until I moved to Ohio in 1990, staggering from my home town (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books), radicalized, and never returning. I have less than no desire to ever return, and California is the heart of darkness. I have not even visited Southern California since then, and actively avoid the place when I can.

That next stint was a scholarly one, and I met Brian O early in it (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet), got involved with Dennis again for a short time, several years later (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting), and took several years off to research and write the 2002 version of my site, which is largely how it exists today (these sections (1 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#forum), 2 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#public), 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#activist), 4 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#comprehensive)) are largely new since then, but the meat is in the older sections (1 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#personal), 2 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#political), 3 (http://ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#economic)), other than my big essay). My nightmare of a midlife crisis began in 2000 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#midlife), 9/11 (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc) and Mr. Professor's death in 2002 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3) (and other grim events) sent me into the dark phase of it, and the agonizing invasion of Iraq (http://ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading), Brian asking me to co-found NEM (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem), and the resumption of my career all happened in the first half of 2003. I also read Bucky Fuller's (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) work in early 2003, and the paradigm I had been groping toward for many years finally crystallized, and I soon encountered the Peak Oilers (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#fossil) and saw how stuck they were in scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation). Looking back, 2003 is really when the studies that resulted in my big essay began. After the NEM fiasco (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland), I went quiet for years, and Dennis's invitation to the White House (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#midlife) catalyzed the end of my midlife crisis. As I emerged from my midlife crisis, I wrote an essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm) in 2007 that brought Brian back into my life. Before long, I was doing interviews (http://ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews) and carrying Brian's spears (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#intro) again. In 2007, I began studying with my big essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm) in mind, and like everything else that is similar, the tale grew with the telling, and a message that I thought might take 50 pages to tell turned into 400. In the years leading up to what became a career break to write that essay, I can tell that my "friends" were orchestrating events. That is a very mixed blessing, let me tell you.

But I have also recognized that, whether my "friends" play their games or not, that a chapter in my life closed with publishing that big essay last year, and I can tell that what comes next is looming. I really don't care if my "friends" want me to play the Indiana Jones game again, or if my soul signed up for it, fool that it is. This earthly personality had enough of that for a lifetime. What I envisioned and what took years of my life has manifested in my big essay and my nascent efforts to build that choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). My "friends" can take a hike if they want me to go play the life-risking hero again. I am already risking it as much as I care to. Heck, there are plenty out there who are playing the hero and messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah1) game. They don’t need me for that.

While lying down in that meadow and meditating, I asked my "friends" for some "help" on what they planned for me next, although I also made it clear that I am done Indiana Jones-ing and carrying spears for the heroes. We will see what is up next, but I can tell that it is coming soon. I have never gotten off easy, but I am grateful that I was able to do what I have, and it is sufficient to help humanity turn the corner, if I can find enough people with the right stuff (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69). I like to think that the love and enlightenment approach can work, and nobody has to risk their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing) doing it, but some minimal courage is needed, such as being a real person (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/57-Terms-of-Membership?p=76&viewfull=1#post76), which is a trifling requirement compared to what will lie ahead for choir members.

This series of posts will end with the next one.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd October 2015, 18:44
Hi:

This will end the series of posts on my day of hiking on Thursday. On top of the mountain, the views were typically spectacular, images attached. Those white patches are mostly glaciers, and that volcano in the distance is Glacier Peak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Peak), which is the only wild volcano in the lower-48 states. You can only hike to it. That picture shows the south face of the mountain, and you can see the north face in these images (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=974666&viewfull=1#post974666) that I took in July. The south face is losing its glaciers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Peak#Glaciers) at an alarming pace. I have witnessed the receding of the glaciers (http://ahealedplanet.net/lyman3.jpg) during my hiking career, and soon before he died in 2009 at age 80, my uncle, who introduced me to hiking, said that it was incredible to witness how much the glaciers of the Cascades had receded in his lifetime. Global warming deniers like Rush Limbaugh and crew carry zero weight with climate scientists or people like me, who can see the glaciers melting away before their eyes.

After my meditation/prayer session ended, I wandered around a little more on top, and then it was back down the mountain. Generally, people my age who hike have the most problems with their knees and feet going downhill, not the cardiovascular demands of going uphill. My hiking poles help, but I became a year-round hiker in 1999, and it was the single-greatest revelation of my hiking career, to hike in the local mountains while the high Cascades are covered in snow. I sometimes snowshoe, which is also great. At my age, I have to be like a shark and keep moving. No more sitting at a desk for eight months and then hiking when the high country melts out. If I tried that, I would never be able to really hike again. I have to keep the rubber bands taught now, by working them out regularly. I can still hardly believe the feats I was capable of in my 20s and 30s. I did stuff in a weekend that would take me a week today, and some I probably could not do, even if I wanted to, it would be so demanding. Ah, youth! :)

So, I sauntered down the mountainside and made it back to my car 4.5 hours after I began the hike, and the last two pictures are of the creek next to the road, with the valley I drove up in the distance, and a few hundred yards after taking that photograph, a black-tailed deer ran (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-tailed_deer) into the road in front of me. It was my only wildlife sighting that day, other than the ubiquitous birds and squirrels that abound in the forests and meadows. I had my camera at my side and took some pictures of that bounding deer, but never got that close (the best is attached), and after a few hundred yards, it finally bounded off the road. I have found that truly wild deer, the kind that avoid humans, usually bound away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DRm-t_-Rc) when I come upon them. It is quite a sight. Two hours later, I was home, not feeling too worn out, as an eight-mile and 2,200-foot hike is not too arduous at my age. When it gets to 3,000 feet and more (it is the elevation, not the miles, that really takes it out of you, and especially how steep it is), then I really feel it, but I can probably do that hike into my 80s, if I am lucky enough to live that long and am able to take care of myself.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd October 2015, 19:25
Hi:

I am going to attach two pictures, from almost the exact same spot, almost exactly two years apart, to show the contrasts, on our drought year.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
4th October 2015, 11:24
Hi:

Before I get to those scenarios that I recently presented (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129), for how my effort could go, I will first present a little prelude.

Anybody who has played on the high road knows two facts:


That organized suppression of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) and related technologies is very real;
That those technologies have been developed to high levels (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground) and sit sequestered in Godzilla's (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) Golden Hoard.


These kinds of people walked the high road:


An ex-astronaut (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#mars), Ivy League professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after), and advisor of presidential candidates (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall) who hosted UFO (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ufo2) and related conferences (and who barely survived the experience (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/73-Darren-Geffert-s-intoductory-posts?p=130&viewfull=1#post130)), and those days were just the warmup to getting involved in FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#miracle), traveling Earth visiting FE labs and the like;
An entrepreneur who developed, marketed, and installed the best heating system in world history (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) on people's homes for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs), and was wiped out (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle1), and that was just a warmup to getting involved in the FE pursuit;
A scientist/inventor who was Bucky Fuller's (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller) pupil, whose father reverse-engineered ET craft technologies (http://spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/trombly.htm) and who had his FE prototypes seized by the feds under national security laws, and whose life then became a "bad spy novel" as he survived numerous murder attempts and other outrages;
A scientist who invented an FE prototype in the basement of a nuclear facility (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=811647&viewfull=1#post811647), and who then had hell to pay, as a warmup to becoming involved in the FE milieu;
A medical doctor who mounted secret congressional hearings on the UFO issue, who barely survived the experience while those on his team did not (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak), and that was just a warmup to becoming involved in the FE issue;
A scientist-inventor who developed an FE prototype (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ideal) and tried interesting the energy institutions in it, even sending them working prototypes (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet), and who then was hounded to his grave (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sparky).


I could present other examples of people like that, and none of them would have been surprised in the slightest if I described to them what my pal was shown long ago (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground), and they could all likely top my tale and then some. Indeed, Brian O nearly yawned when I told him (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground). None of those people were armchair enthusiasts or attended conferences of talking heads in the FE and related fields, but played on the high road and discovered the hard way how the world really works. There is no substitute for experience.

If people do their homework, they will know that my story is far larger than I present in my public writings, but my public writings are plenty big enough (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), and I will review some of the constraints that I have to write under.

My close relative who was a CIA contract agent (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia) died long ago, and only with his death could I reveal a little about his secret life. That household-name diplomat is still active on the world stage in 2015, so I won't be revealing my relative's identity, and I doubt that I ever will, as other close relatives likely do not know about our relative's secret life, and it is really not my place to reveal it publicly. It could create more heartache and unwanted attention, and those around me have had more than enough of that, let me tell you.

If people did their homework (not surfing the Internet, which really does not qualify, but archival research, the kind that historians do), they could easily discover Bill the BPA Hit Man's (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm) identity and see how he developed his fake alternative energy credentials before he was sicced on Dennis's company by the electric interests, how he became a "noted Tesla researcher (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#hitman)" after changing masks, and who is now a hit man for the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#biomed). One reason why I have hidden his identity is to help keep the naïve (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#naive1) and idly curious (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#curious) out of danger. Bill is an accomplished dark pather (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) (also called a psychopath, for the scientifically minded), and he has the blood of the naïve and easily manipulated on his hands (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death), and such people would imperil themselves by approaching him.

One hit man sicced on our Ventura business is in prison today and has been defanged enough that I revealed his identity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#texas), as an example. Mr. Deputy (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#deputy) is another hit man sicced on us, and discovering his identity is easy to do, as are almost all the names that I use pseudonyms for in my work, but again, he is also an accomplished dark pather, and the naïve and idly curious would imperil themselves by approaching him. Such naïve people usually scoff, in a manner that reminds me of the killer bunny scene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvs5pqf-DMA) in Monty Python's Holy Grail, but I am not going to make it easy for them to get into trouble.

Those represent some of the constraints that I operate under. The people who gave my pal a show risked their lives to do it, and I purposely have not known very much about that show, partly to protect them as much as I can, while also revealing that those technologies definitely exist on the planet today and are not some New Age (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage)-Conspiracist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) fantasy. It is not an easy tightrope to walk, and my public writings are highly conservative. I have documented nearly everything that I was at liberty to, but when writing on these subjects, I am not allowed to be as forthcoming as I would like, to protect both the innocent and the guilty. Some pals died long ago, but their families still live in fear of retribution from Godzilla and friends, so I honor their fears (which I doubt are very realistic and seem a bit paranoid, but it is not my place to name those names), which makes my tale a little less credible for the idly curious and naïve, but that is also just how I like it, as those people are more harm than good for what I am doing. For those who do their homework, my credibility is established and then some.

I am trying something (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) never attempted before, and Dennis and Brian (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures), whose opinions I respected above all others on this matter, immediately recognized (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852) that I was doing something different, and we will see how it goes. The next post will begin to explore those possible outcomes of my effort.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
4th October 2015, 18:13
Hi:

Here is my first post on the possible outcomes of my approach (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129). I played on the high (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006175&viewfull=1#post1006175) road, carrying Dennis's and Brian's spears (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels10), and let's just say that I no longer want to play on the high road, at least like that. :) I seek to play the game at a level where heroes are not needed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah1), where they are not risking (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany) and losing (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#deadinventors) their lives, where we are not having Godzilla call in an air strike on us (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr). I don't want to live through anything remotely like that again, nor do I want to have anybody involved with me experience that. Mr. Professor's ruined and prematurely ended life (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey) will haunt me to my grave. I witnessed many other ruined lives and more prematurely ended ones. No thanks, and what would be the point? More martyrs to the cause, so that some more sheeple might begin to wake up from the sight and smell of the blood? That motivation guided my efforts almost more than any other, but I also noted what was missing from all previous efforts: the public was apathetic, scientifically illiterate, and easily led astray, as their immediate self-interest was the beginning and end of their awareness. Such people were putty in the hands of Godzilla's minions, and we had many of them sicced on us over the years, but our allies hurt our efforts more than Godzilla did (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#allies)! You could not have convinced me of that before I met Dennis, but I had that lesson beaten into my head in no uncertain terms over the years, and it was my journey's most valuable lesson (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn).

So, with the land lying that way, what approach might have a chance? My current approach is the result of many years of life-risking and life-wrecking trial-and-error. Dennis and Brian immediately recognized that it was something different (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852), but it will be as difficult in its own way as the other approaches. It could be called the heart-centered sentience approach. It could be called the 21st-century comprehensive thinking approach, a la Bucky (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller), who might well approve of it if he was around to see it today. But it does not appeal to people's sense of immediate self-interest, I don't offer the means for would-be heroes to get rich and famous, it does not appeal to New Age (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage)/Conspiracist (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) types, mainstream environmentalists (http://ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists), and the rest of the "bait" that other approaches have used and audiences that have been approached. I seek very rare people (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), with unique qualities (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69), and I may not find them, or they will not find me (or they do not think that my approach has a chance or doubt that I have the right stuff, and if so, could they please go out and make it happen?). The biggest event in the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) is not going to fall into our laps or happen through a few weeks or months of effort.

I know that my approach will work, if I can find enough people with the right stuff and train them. Are enough out there with the right stuff, and I find them or they find me? We will see. There can be temptations to getting "blurbs" for my work and putting them on my site, and I have done a little of that, such as Howard Zinn's (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#zinn2) reaction to asking him for permission to quote him, or the reaction of arguably the world's foremost authority (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#paleo) on the subject matter and approach to the first half of my big essay, but I am not going to ask that authority for a blurb (I already have some from him, but do not plan to publish them). It might get more people to read that essay, but why would they read it? Because somebody else said to? That is not the audience that I seek.

The material that I have produced is adequate for what I am attempting. I spent a lifetime learning through my training, adventures, and study, and my site today is my best effort for my approach, but maybe I have set the bar too high, will not find enough of those people that I seek, and my effort goes nowhere. Nobody will be able to run with me and have that high-level, comprehensive conversation, with my big essay as the touchstone (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/forums/7-The-BIG-Essay-Energy-and-the-Human-Journey-Where-We-Have-Been-Where-We-Can-Go), and it never gets beyond the Wade Show, as people in cyberspace gawk at the strange spectacle. It could go that way. One reason why I have not had anybody step up yet is that people live in fear, and people hide in the shadows today, not brave enough to be real people, fearing more from their social circles than Godzilla if they get on the global stage with me. I have a few in my little band (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/forums/23-Forum-Member-Introduction), but no comprehensive discussion yet. The discussion will help participants and readers develop comprehensive perspectives, not the essay by itself, unless the readers are geniuses of the likes that I have rarely encountered.

But it is way too early in the game to think that it will never get off the ground. I have scientists studying that essay, and some intend to get on stage with me and begin that conversation (but I hope that that conversation is not confined to scientists – I did not write my big essay with that intention). IMO, that is the only thing that is going to attract the people I seek. While the material stands on its own, it is going to be a high-level conversation, which is deep-thinking and stimulating, and begins hitting the notes of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), which is going to attract the people I seek. I am being very picky in the beginning, too. It has to be about hitting the notes, not the numbers. Plenty of people have asked to join up, but when I have asked them to begin to discuss the subject material in my big essay, any one of thousands of subjects that might interest them, to see what notes they can hit, they almost always disappear. That is fine, and it has been a low-abrasion way to go about this task, but nobody has really been willing or able to step up yet, at least who is ready to step up. Some intend to, once they have finished their homework, and we will see how that goes.

I have budgeted the rest of my life's "spare" time to this choir-building task, and I may have another 30 good years left in the tank, so this is very early in the game. Learning how to think comprehensively and understanding how the world works is not a waste of anybody's time and effort. Our awareness is all that we take with us when we leave earthly life (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#afterlife).

I know that not many are able or willing to digest work like mine, and that is fine. I do not seek the masses, and I would rather that my effort never got off the ground than became another mass movement effort (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) that crashed and burned when the least amount of challenge was faced, and lives got wrecked far and wide. Been there, done that. Believe me, I am all-too-well aware of the abyss (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth) that humanity stands on the edge of today, but I am not going to go travel the paths of failure (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) that are very well marked by the blood of many thousands of aspirants.

My approach is the long, slow trajectory that seeks to build on a strong foundation, not some half-cocked effort that is going to rush out and "do something," from a sense of desperation, impatience, seeking riches and fame, playing the hero, etc. Impatience is my Achilles heel, (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading) and this approach has given me great opportunities to work on it. :) More than 40 years down (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse) and maybe another 40 to go, if humanity has that long to right the ship, and we will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th October 2015, 02:40
Hi:

The next possible outcome of my effort is that it gets hijacked. When I was with Dennis, I was continually bewildered by how people tried to steal the company. When I told Dennis how shocking it was to see, he told me to join the club (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#shocked). After my Ventura years with Dennis, it was amazing to watch people still try to steal his companies (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal). How could people realistically think that they could steal his effort, when his journey was such a central part of his effort? I had to conclude that I was witnessing truly stupid greed at work (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#greed), as FE's potential overrode all semblance of sentience.

Watching those activities over all those years was very educational and has definitely informed my effort. I have given my work away to the world. Hard to steal that. :) I have been plagiarized and impersonated on the Internet, but those were minor nuisances. I don’t see any activities along those lines becoming a big problem.

Could my forum be hijacked? Technically, it can happen, and I have seen that happen before, but if somebody managed to, it would not be for long. That kind of thievery does not last.

Could somebody hijack the choir, such as set up a competing forum, trying to out-sing mine? That would be the most welcome "hijacking" that I could imagine. But if it was not in the proper spirit, I doubt it would work for long. I wish there were a thousand people trying to build forums like mine.

Since I am not taking in any money and don't plan to for building the choir, and money may never change hands with what I am doing, there is not much to steal. The people that I plan to attract I doubt will be very easy to entice away. Could somebody set up a competing forum where the members are paid to join?

That all seems highly unlikely. Mobsters stole Dennis's companies (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#mafia2) more than once, but again, what is there to steal? Sentience? :)

I am chasing after the biggest event in the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), and it is beyond the dreams of avarice (http://ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion), but my plan is to give away history's most lucrative technology, which will implode capitalism from the inside. Capitalism will not survive into the Fifth Epoch, being the scarcity-based ideology that it is (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), founded on greed (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed) and fear. No scarcity-based ideology will survive.

Will choir members be enticed away, to join an FE-based business effort? It definitely could happen, and I would wish those the best who left and say a prayer for them. They will need it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches).

Brian got kicked out of NEM (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed) by the board. Could I get kicked out of my own forum by its members? Again, I am not sure that I can see how. Could Bill Ryan get kicked out of Avalon? I do not lie awake at night, pondering those scenarios. I remember the Charles stuff, which seemed to be an attempt to hijack the forum, but I don't see what I am doing ever getting close to anything like that. It just does not have the vulnerabilities, and I am being very picky who can join it, and I may always be that way.

The slow, deliberate way that I am doing this it is intended to avoid many of the pitfalls that I saw over the years. Maybe I will be surprised, but I have a hard time seeing Godzilla's minions, or free-lance thieves, hijacking my effort. Any "competing" choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) is welcome. We can see who hits the highest notes of love, sentience, and abundance. :) If I ever encountered people who realized what I am doing better than I plan to, I would likely carry their spears, professional spear-carrier that I am (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures). I would not call that being "hijacked," however.

I spent long years envisioning my efforts, have very carefully designed my effort, and am not aware of anything remotely close to it. Of all the ways that my effort can fail, being hijacked is not one that worries me these days.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
5th October 2015, 04:27
Hi Wade,

Thank you (for much, but in this case for the last post you made), It is interesting and most humbling for me to read your thoughts on the matter. It seems that this type of effort such as the one you pursue here, by being what it is, has no relation to competition whatsoever, as you allude anything that may arise that may remotely positively resemble such effort can be considered as a complementary act and a true sign of sentience and consciousness in bloom. In this case you have been a loud and very efficient harbinger sending ripples.. but things don't seem to flow this way at this time, for a reason, some truths and deeper understandings with regards to our world and moreso to ourselves may need to come up first.
And be lovingly and delicately dealt with

In your work, it is your soul that calls out, and it is the calling of the soul of others that may potentially recieve and comply. But perheps things need to be untangled in order for things to work out smoothly with the original intention, if it is dressed even slightly by the intentions of others, the flow won't quite reach the districts of it's destination

Forums and websites were hijacked, it happened to Jordan Maxwell. If the keys are in one's pocket and they are picky, things will not quite happen this way, but may happen in another. and so, finding out whatever needs to be found on the more subtle levels of ones own life from beginning could be a key in itself

Thank you, Wade, for allowing me to post this here, please don't hesitate to remove it if it does not feel suitable

Many Blessings ~

Limor

Ilie Pandia
5th October 2015, 04:51
Hi,

I want to thank Melinda's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005583&viewfull=1#post1005583) more explicitly.

She wrote about stuff that is not new to me, but the way she wrote about it made it so much more clear! And that is the idea of creating something that ignores the broader context/system into which that creation takes place.

"[...] it hadn't (the author argued) denied the broader context in which it existed, or taken the potentially hazardous view - that sometimes surfaces in New Age endeavours - of considering itself immune to, or above and beyond, the lack of integrity in the industrialised world."

This is a trap that I sometimes still step into, playing my Ego games, until the real world comes crashing in :).

And it is also why Wade wrote the essay as he did, by proving the long introduction and context to the final conclusion, so that the reader is first aware of how the land lies before even considering drafting some action plans.

And the irony is not lost on me that you need to understand how the world works before you can transform it :). And the peril is getting lost or mired in the world as you study it and lose sight of why your initial intent.

Wade Frazier
5th October 2015, 04:57
Hi Limor:

It is all good, and thanks for writing. Even if my effort gets to the technology development stage, it will be open source and transparent from the beginning, and is going to be given away, so stealing it is going to be nonsensical. Suppressing it I understand, and I have lived through them carting away our stuff (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid), but to steal it to get rich, etc., (or at least richer than everybody will be – FE will be like giving everybody a billion dollars) is not going to work. :)

Yes, sites can be hacked and hijacked, but it won't work well for what I am doing. No ecommerce function, no ads, none of that stuff (no identities to discover through hacking - part of my no anonymity requirement). It is not going to be easy to derail that way. It is just pure information and discussion, of people trying to hit high notes.

It just does not have the usual motivation behind it, so the usual tricks won't work on it. Take it down for a day with an attack. So what? The choir sure isn’t going to drift off because of something like that, and will likely redouble the effort.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th October 2015, 05:06
Hi Ilie:

Quickly, before I go to bed, yes, no technology exists in a vacuum, and I'll get to that issue soon, as I work my way through the list. When I see the FE fears (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), they always ignore the transformative effects of the technology itself, and nothing will be as transformative as FE, and its nature is partly why the approaches tried so far (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) have never come close to working. It is like pouring the new wine into old skins.

It took me many years to fully understand the truth that the approach had to be aligned with the intended outcome, as Seth said (http://ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist). I never denied the truth of Seth's words, but as I pursued my FE path, I got to see how true they were, and how most FE efforts doomed themselves by their approach, before Godzilla even rolled out of bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th October 2015, 13:56
Hi:

I doubt that I need to explain to anybody in this forum how dysfunctional our systems are. Every day, I read articles where somebody says that the emperor is buck naked. Sometimes from establishment types, often retired like this one (http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/lawrence-wilkerson-the-empire-is-in-deep-deep-trouble.html), or from somebody a little more on the fringe, such as this article (http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/welcome-to-future-downward-mobility-and.html). The message is consistent, that everything is going to hell, and fast, and corporatocracy rules all (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-05/trans-pacific-partnership-deal-struck-corporate-secrecy-wins-again). I have found that all manner of analyst and pundit is great at describing the problems, and that second link above is from one of the many Peak Oiler financial bloggers. Do any of them give FE the time of day? Of course not. That is one of the surreal aspects of my journey. I have contacted that second blogger before, and all financial bloggers who had at least some understanding of the energy issue, but nobody has ever been home. But nobody is really home, anywhere on Earth, except for exceedingly rare needles in haystacks. But the needles are all that will be needed (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#why).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th October 2015, 15:36
Hi:

On to the next topic in my list (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129): the challenges to the ego. More than any other issue, this is humanity's challenge, and not just the megalomania issue that I listed, although it is very real. The issue of personal integrity being the world's scarcest commodity is all about the ego (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn), which in our world of scarcity means a person's immediate economic self-interest. All in-group ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup) are all about the ego, as people meet their immediate self-interest through their in-groups, and the out-groups can go to hell (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#ingroup1). They are all scarcity-based (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), which perhaps should be obvious, but as Ernie recently noted (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1004205&viewfull=1#post1004205), many vitally important issues should be very obvious, but they aren't. When I fielded crazed reactions from my "peers," when they read this section of my site (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#progress), that was their egos reacting. I am a high-achieving member of history's most affluent and privileged demographic group: white, educated, American men who grew up in the USA's postwar boom (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#postwar), which is the most prosperous era in the human journey.

Dennis was born into a migrant farmworker family (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis), but even he was able to join the middle class during that era of prosperity, and even hobnobbed with the Eastern Oligarchy. Brian and I had it easier, and Brian had the world's coolest job for a brief time: an astronaut who was tasked with going to Mars (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#mars). He later became an Ivy League professor (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after) and advised presidential candidates (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#udall). Brian openly admitted how those days tended to inflate his ego (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#berth). That is a very real challenge. In my early days of being Dennis's partner, as we chased after FE, I had fleeting delusions of grandeur (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur). They got beaten out of me pretty quickly, but to this day, when my ego rears its head, I have to let it know that it is not being helpful. It is a constant issue when pursuing the biggest event in the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), especially for geniuses (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102) who are members of history's most privileged demographic group. The ego lives in fear, and with love, it gets into the back seat and lets the soul drive. Humanity is ego-bound. According to some bodies of mystical material, the ego was intended to help the soul focus into physical reality, and it is doing a job that it was not intended for, so we are a deeply egocentric ensouled species. It does not have to be this way, and in a world of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance), I expect that everybody's egos are going to take a step back and let their souls come through more.

The issue of virtually nobody understanding the FE issue in today's world is all about the ego. People are fed belief systems from a young age and never let go (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded), because that is how they eat. Their overriding self-interest prevents them from even being willing to try to understand work like mine.

As Brian got closer and closer to the truth, he became more and more ostracized from the Establishment, eventually dying in exile in South America. Brian was doing some of the most important work on Earth, and was run out of his home country (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland) because of it. So was Dennis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=694872&highlight=wirec#post694872). Dennis still lugs around his Third Epoch religion, which is messianic, and it is easy to slip into the "I am the Messiah" role when pursuing FE. Joe Newman did it, as Keshe recently has (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah). Dennis never did. He had lived through events that beat any of that kind of thinking out of him, long before I met him. When he gets on stage, his salesman persona takes over, and people have accused him of playing some kind of messianic figure, but only those who don't know him say that. Everything that he does is to serve his god, which he has been doing ever since he first heard that voice (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice). I know what that is like (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3), and it can definitely give one a sense of purpose. That sense of purpose can appear to the uninitiated as the ego running amok, but it is something different.

I regularly hear that my ego is way too invested in my work, and that it is the Wade Show because of my ego. Actually, it is the Wade Show because nobody has yet stepped up and begun that comprehensive discussion of my big essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/forums/7-The-BIG-Essay-Energy-and-the-Human-Journey-Where-We-Have-Been-Where-We-Can-Go), which is certainly not all about me. When I have heard those "ego" comments, it takes me back to when that ex-girlfriend repeatedly attacked me (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/81-Vignettes-from-my-journey-and-how-I-learned-what-I-did-and-came-to-my-approach?p=202&viewfull=1#post202), accusing me of being a criminal. It was only a gentle preview of what was coming, as I was brought down to Earth quickly and hard. Those delusions of grandeur never returned, although my ego is still there every day when I wake up, and it is there until I go to bed. I found that when people focus on my personality, it is because they are unable or unwilling to focus on the issues. Small minds focus on people, larger minds focus on events, and the biggest minds focus on ideas. My big essay is all about events, ideas, and how the world works, and what kind of world we can have (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) if enough of us wake up (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) and combine our efforts (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#why) from a sense of combined positive intention (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gcfocus), not because of me or anybody else. If people focus on the goal, petty egocentric conceits quickly fade to the background.

Yes, my journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm) is unique and hard to believe at times, even for me, but Dennis's journey is far more unbelievable, and Brian's life was quite a ride. So, navigating toward the goal and keeping our egos in the back seat has always been a challenge, to one degree or another. Could I become a Keshe-style megalomaniac? I guess that if I deny it, then it means that I could. :)

I guess that the only honest answer I can give is that I know the territory well, and I have witnessed people's egos, especially men's, succumb to the immensity of the issue. There is not an issue more immense on Earth, and it sucks in egos and spits out the shreds on a daily basis, as FE inventors try to get rich and famous, think they are the Messiah, and so on. All I can say to that is that I have lived with it for more than 40 years and have experienced the ups and downs that it sends the ego through. If my work was about my immediate self-interest, I am pretty stupid, spending my adult life doing this for free and planning to mount an effort in which history's most lucrative technology is given away for free (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir). People who are able to discuss the issues with me are free to let me know when they think that my ego is getting the best of me, but those who cannot join the comprehensive discussion I found really do not understand, and they tend to project their ego issues onto me. Heck, my own mother did it (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492). I am very familiar with those dynamics, more familiar than I ever wanted to be.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th October 2015, 16:36
Hi:

On to the next possibility on my list (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129) and where I hope that my effort goes. My so-called "choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir)" idea is all about developing a comprehensive discussion of the energy issue and FE's potential (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). That conversation has really never been held on Earth before, except in corners here and there, and such discussions typically devolved into "bright ideas" about "doing something," which are invariably the paths of failure (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) that have been trod many thousands of times, literally. Those paths of failure are all about fear, the ego, and scarcity. They are all about riches and fame, playing the hero or Messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah1), looking for somebody out there who can cut the big check (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#rich) and send it over the top, beseeching the powerful (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#beseeching1), and so on. I have seen it all, and none of those approaches have ever come close to working. This is the most difficult nut to crack on Earth.

Godzilla's greatest triumph is making FE and what can come with it unimaginable (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#imagine). I have stated that for many years (http://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#thinkable), and I am still largely a voice in the wilderness, as Brian and Dennis were. Dennis could sure gather a crowd, but that crowd was there for its self-interest and the spectacle (AKA "bread and circuses (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum)"), and such crowds were no good at all for making FE happen. They are actually a great hindrance and putty in the hands of the social managers, and Godzilla's minions most of all. By the dark days of December 1988 (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it), I seriously doubted that Dennis's mass movement approach (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10) would work, with inventors, businessmen, and business opportunities, and after my second stint with him (http://ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting) that ended in 1997, I was certain that it would not work.

So, I groped after different approaches, as I studied for my site and created it. Soon after finishing it, Brian asked me to co-found NEM (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem), and the next year I dropped out of NEM and decided that I would never join anybody else's effort again, although I still carried Brian's spears for him (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#intro) years later. I also discovered Bucky Fuller's work in 2003 (http://ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller), and the light bulb finally went on for me, as the paradigm that I had been struggling to conceive finally crystallized, and my work has been more consciously comprehensive ever since. As I look back, reading Fuller's work was the beginning of my studies that resulted in my big essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm), and I like to think that if Bucky was alive today, he would be doing something like what I am.

If I could find and train 5,000-to-7,000 people (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) to develop the heart-centered and comprehensive understanding that informs my big essay, making FE happen will be laughably easy. Finding and training them will be the hard part. Nearly everybody on Earth is addicted to their particular flavor of scarcity (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation), and they don’t even realize that they are. You can't reach addicts who do not even acknowledge their addiction. It is invisible to them, as obvious as it is to those around them. It took me many years to realize the addictions to scarcity that I witnessed. It is so pronounced among the "smart" and "educated" that after five years of playing the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions), Brian began openly wondering if humanity was a sentient species (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience), and I sadly understood.

I also found that the vast majority of people are scientifically illiterate (the number is about 95% in the West), and they really do not understand the role that energy plays in the world. My big essay was intended to help remedy that deficiency. I am in no way Mr. Orthodox (http://ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm), but the scientifically illiterate do not even know what the orthodox position is before they begin eating the chaff on the fringes, thinking it is wheat. Probably the most common issue that I see today with people wanting to join my choir is their scientific illiteracy and their infatuation with various fringe authors who represent the chaff of the fringes (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/70-Distinguishing-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-my-life-s-journey?p=102&viewfull=1#post102), and they want to drag that stuff into my forum. When I inform them that they have to leave it at the door (and that they are enamored of that chaff means that they do not have what I am looking for in the first place), they almost always disappear.

The smarter ones are usually infatuated with some kind of alternative political-economic philosophy, and they want to drag that into my forum, and they don’t seem to be able to understand that they are all scarcity-based and focused on the exchange aspect of economics, and that will all become obsolete with FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange). When I tell them that they have to leave their scarcity-based luggage at the front door, and that they are not paths of the needed solution to the FE conundrum (http://ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#summary), they almost always disappear.

The masses are not going to begin to wake up until the means of FE are delivered into their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink), which is what my work is about. All scarcity-based ideologies (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) and societal structures will quickly become obsolete and the world will end as we know it. The people I need for the choir have to have the integrity, courage, and sentience to understand that, even embrace it. I know that they are needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), but they are the only people that can make my idea work, and it might be the only approach that will work.

The item on my list that this post is about is about just mounting that conversation, which helps raise the awareness of those I seek, so that what I am attempting becomes comprehensible. It isn't easy to understand, especially when people drag the baggage of scarcity along with them. But for those who are willing and able to, they can help create an environment that will be conducive to mounting an FE effort with a prayer. None have had a prayer yet.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
6th October 2015, 14:42
Hi:

On to the next item on my list (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129). If I can get my so-called "choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir)" going, that will be plenty for this man in a lifetime. A high-level comprehensive conversation, among thousands of people, has never been heard on Earth before, not even remotely. It is not going to be a New Age conversation, an alternative political-economic one, a conspiracist one, a "skeptical" one, a "chaffy" fringe science or historical one, or the many kinds of discussions that are out there in cyberspace, among enthusiasts, the scientifically illiterate, the superficially spiritual, the paranoid, the "skeptical," the superficially academic, political activists who hack at branches, anonymous cowards and trolls (http://ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll), the economically minded who never think past exchange (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), and so on. It is going to be something far different, but the people who are part of it will have to play the game at a far higher level than it has ever been played at before. Deep study of my big essay (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm) is a mere prerequisite. I expect that some choir members are going to hit notes far higher than I ever have, as they will have more talent and will not have gone through the meat grinder (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting) like I have, which can scar the vocal cords. :) I can only help blaze the path. Others will travel it much further than I will, and see vistas that I never imagined.

A choir like that, hitting the notes of abundance (http://ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance), would be an unprecedented act of integrity and sentience for humanity. The effect of that alone will be unprecedented, and who knows what it might catalyze? This post and the next will explore two possibilities, out of a wide range of them that I can imagine.

Most directly, I intend for the choir to attract 100,000 people or so who will "do something." Without the "ballast" that the choir will provide, that 100,000 will not form, and whatever did form could easily go astray and get caught up in the latest New Age and conspiracist fashion, pursue the FE inventor who announces that he is the Messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah), etc., try to attract mass media attention (the "I am scientifically illiterate but a great networker" person is useless for what I am doing), and advocate all those paths of failure (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) that have been tried thousands of times. My effort is about doing something different. Those 100,000 will also be needles in haystacks (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), possessing rare integrity and sentience. The path that this group will take I call making FE happen the hard way. It will be a technical project of developing an FE device to production-ready status, to then be given to humanity.

Many FE prototypes have been demonstrated in the past century (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#demonstrate). Some harnessed the zero-point field (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#zpf1), while others tapped such sources as the electrical potential between Earth's surface and its ionosphere. Again, anybody who has played on the high road (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006175&viewfull=1#post1006175) knows that FE technology already exists on the planet, has been developed to a commercial level, and sits today in Godzilla's Golden Hoard, along with many other mind-boggling technologies. To independently develop something that is older than I am can seem like a waste of time, and I am sympathetic with that perspective, but the effort has to be prepared to go that route and not seek easy solutions. All of those paths of failure generally have looking for easy answers in common. FE is not going to happen in today's environment unless people with the right stuff (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) do the work. Making the biggest event in the human journey happen will not be easy, not with humanity's inertia and the organized suppression (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1).

If the choir forms, there will be no need or even desire for men to go play heroes and messiahs, women play cheerleaders and groupies, and the like. Those are all old roles that will not only become obsolete in the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), but they are not going to help us get to the Fifth Epoch.

In his last years, Brian O tried to educate the public on technology development. A working prototype is a long, long way from something that is ready for public use. The technologically illiterate and naïve tinkerers think that there is going to be some guerilla garage revolution (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) that sneaks past Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level7) or overwhelms him in a stampede (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10). It is one of many adolescent fantasies out there on the FE issue, encouraged by movies such as Back to the Future (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future). The latest I have seen is that 3-D printers will make FE devices soon, and people can make them in their garages. While advances in mainstream technology are likely going to make the task easier than it has been, it will still be a monumental undertaking, and the 100,000 will have to be mentally and emotionally prepared for the long road to get there, but with so many involved, and a choir forming the foundation, no one person will be laying his or her life on the line (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing), playing the hero, etc.

Not long before he died, Brian estimated the FE development cost at $200 million, and I'll buy that. With 100,000 people, that is mere $2,000 per person. Again, this is a long, long way off, and anybody advocating building that fund now is naïve and a liability to my effort. The choir has to be built, first, and that will be the truly hard part, not rounding up the 100,000. Almost nobody on Earth has mustered the integrity (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn) and sentience (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#sentience1) to break out of their scarcity-based conditioning (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) and been able to even imagine abundance. As I see it, that is the root problem. Solve that one, and the rest is going to be easy.

That choir is going to create harmonic effects on Earth that have never been witnessed before. A nugget of integrity and sentience like that can help raise humanity's awareness so that when FE is introduced to the world, its harmless implementation will be assured. No FE wars (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacekeeping), no strip-mining Earth's surface (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mining), and the rest of those primitive and degenerate notions. Humanity will enter the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), technologically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and ethically. This kind of world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=672748&viewfull=1#post672748) can begin to come into view.

Again, we are a long, long way from that goal, but it has to begin somewhere. I have budgeted the rest of my lifetime's "spare" time to building that choir. I am not the only FE game in town, but nobody else is playing my game on Earth, as far as I have seen. Brian O had the closest in the FE field that I saw to my way of thinking, and he understood that I was doing something different (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852), as Dennis also did.

Will my approach work? If I can find the right people and train them, I am certain of it. Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) and humanity's inertia will not be able to affect something like that, and Godzilla knows it. The hard part will be finding and training them. I know what has not come close to working, and I am leaving those paths of failure (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches) behind. The path outlined above may not find enough people with the right stuff to make it work. Somebody may come along and do it better than I can, and if they have the right stuff, I will gladly join up. But they will have extraordinarily high hurdles (http://ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany) to overcome to rise enough in my estimation for that. I am very willing to be pleasantly surprised, but I don't expect it. Seeking to hand this over to somebody more qualified than I am is another way to take the easy way out. :)

The next post will be on the "negative" side of FE.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th October 2015, 12:48
Hi:

On to the next scenario in my list (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129), of FE becoming publicly available and then used to destroy Earth via wars and strip-mining Earth's surface. Melinda added her two bits (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005583&viewfull=1#post1005583), and such fears are what I have called Level 5 (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5). Those fears always fail to take into account that all wars have been primarily resource-based (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warreason1), and FE makes all resources abundant. I know that antigravity has been sequestered in Godzilla's Golden Hoard (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), along with FE and other mind-boggling technologies, and mining one big asteroid would supply all of humanity's metal needs for the foreseeable future, leaving aside Mercury, Mars, and Venus (and the Kuiper belt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt), Oort cloud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oort_cloud), and gas giants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_giant)). So warfare over resources or raping Earth to get them quickly becomes seen as insane and stupid, and I have a higher opinion of humanity than those Level 5 doomsayers. Also, the rising standards of living of industrialization have resulted in the demographic transition (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#warreason1), and women in industrial societies are not seen as broodmares. An ever-increasing human population under an FE regime, putting ever-greater pressure on Earth and her ecosystems, is unrealistic in several ways.

Each Epoch of the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable) has seen an increase in its energy surplus, and societies have increasingly become more humane as the energy surplus increased. The brief golden ages of the human past (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#goldenages) were all due to relative energy abundance, and FE will mean absolute energy abundance for all people, at levels scarcely imaginable today, not for merely a privileged few, and human societies will transform in ways that most people cannot even imagine today, and that is normal (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine). It is crazy to think that the likeliest outcome will be wars and destroying Earth.

All the same, I advocate those peacekeeping grandmothers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#peacekeeping) in the transitional phase, but I don't expect that they will need to be engaged for long. Maybe there is a generation where there is a policing of humanity, so that the psychopaths no longer run the show like they do today, but with everybody finally waking up from the nightmare of scarcity, human sentience will take over and the suicidal stupidity of such practices will be plain to all (it will be seen like Russian roulette (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette) is today), and nobody will need to be reminded. The few recalcitrant ones will have their toys taken away and may be sequestered, but not in prisons, but places of healing and reorientation. Some of today's psychopaths may not be able to wake up in this lifetime and behave themselves, but there really should not be many of them. Psychopathy as a way of life will not work in a world of abundance. Weaponry will be seen as relics of humanity's primitive past, with a few specimens surviving in museums, which people will marvel over, in a slightly horrified way, like medieval torture implements are today.

Already, in industrial nations, instead of razing all the forests to the ground (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#treesenergy) to provide energy and materials, the forests have been increasingly protected, as fossil fuels have provided the necessary energy and materials. The forests and ecosystems are under the most strain in poor nations, not industrial nations. The Japanese have not harvested their trees since before I was born. I believe that people are smart enough to quickly realize that with FE, there will be no good reason for raping Earth any longer, or having wars. It will all quickly go the way of dinosaurs and slavery.

The greatest threat to humanity, Earth, and her ecosystems (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth) is human poverty and scarcity, not the "specter" of abundance.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th October 2015, 13:53
Hi:

On to the last scenario in my list (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129), of Godzilla releasing FE from his Golden Hoard. FE would be plenty, but antigravity and a bunch of other mind-boggling technologies and materials are in that cache. When my friend got his peek (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#underground), his eyes were bugging out, and one of his replies was that those people did not play in the same galaxy that he did. They admitted that it was not safe to bring those technologies to the public, but they looked forward to when they could.

My friend did not know who gave him that show, but I am almost certain that it was a disenchanted faction of Godzilla's organization (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal) that does not want to live on Mars (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#mars). I can't vouch for all the tales that Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter told (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=9885), but somebody in my circles was also subjected to a recruitment attempt for making Mars into an elite survival haven, and it was not Brian O (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#mars). When I was with Dennis, we heard from the so-called White Hats at times (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white), before the Black Hats lowered the boom on us (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail), after dangling their ever-larger carrots (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer). Events like those just come with playing on the high road (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006175&viewfull=1#post1006175), if you can survive to tell the stories. My days of playing on the high road were life-risking and life-wrecking, and I will always be picking up the pieces of my shattered life.

I think that I have discussed it publicly before, but maybe not. There is a large dynastic component in Godzilla's ranks, similar to how we see Jeb and Hilary running for president today. My close relative (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia) almost tried to recruit me into the "business" that played a level or two below Godzilla's. For all of the evil mastery (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love) in Godzilla's ranks, they cannot choose what soul comes through their offspring, and those descendants generally don't "have it" like their parents did, so are underachievers on the dark path, similar to how women are generally are not as accomplished as men in evil, being biologically built to nurture life, not take it. The dark path is not an easy one, and those who walk it have my sympathy.

It is obvious to anybody whose head is not in the sand that humanity is quickly making Earth uninhabitable (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#spaceshipearth), and around 50 years ago (and arguably when the USA nuked Japan (http://ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping)), it began becoming obvious where Godzilla's power-and-control game was headed, and there has been growing dissention in the ranks. It was long after my pal got his little show that I heard Disclosure Project witness testimony and read Greer's writings on divisions in Godzilla's ranks, and it aligned with our experiences (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal). Greer is damaged goods, a casualty of the high road, but I buy his reports on the state of Godzilla and other tidbits, because they aligned with our experiences. Brian O was a prominent member of Greer's efforts. Tom Bearden is another odd one (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/71-My-stock-answer-to-most-FE-inquiries-about-inventors-and-current-FE-efforts?p=114&viewfull=1#post114), but his reporting of the "game theory (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden)" strategies that Godzilla used also aligned with our experiences.

I get the sense that those disenchanted factions want FE and related technologies to come out. They want to have their cake and eat it too, however, and I believe that is behind the Skunk Works (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works) recently announcing commercial fusion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_beta_fusion_reactor). That is not the good stuff, but allows something like FE to be released under the capitalist model, and Godzilla can play the ultra-elite game for a while longer, but even the stupidest of them realize that FE means game over for elites, and they will become obsolete in the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear). All sorts of dark path (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) opportunities disappear in the Fifth Epoch. Godzilla is trying to walk the tightrope between a terrified and enslaved humanity and a destroyed planet, and Godzilla's saner members no longer want to play that game. They just don't relish evil as much. But it is not easy to get off that horse.

Where does the choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) come into that? Nothing remotely like a Fifth Epoch conversation of significance has taken place on Earth before. A choir could well help catalyze a situation where it becomes more inviting for those technologies to come forward. That level of heart-centered sentience and enlightenment could well be the catalyst for encouraging that disenchanted faction to release some of those technologies, and if they let the FE cat out of the bag, the rest won't be far behind, as this kind of world (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) quickly comes into view.

I am sure not counting on that happening. The choir has to be mentally and emotionally prepared for doing it the hard way (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006961&viewfull=1#post1006961), but easier paths to FE may be catalyzed by the choir's existence.

I plan to make another post or two, to summarize those scenarios and provide some more commentary. Those are several of many ways that my effort could turn out, and there all sorts of ways that hybrid situations could play out, but FE newbies seeking the easy way out has ever been the bane of this work, as they trot out their "bright ideas" that have never come close to working (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches). What my effort does not need is more newbie bright ideas, but people doing the work to develop comprehensive perspectives. That is the only way that the choir can be built, and that is what I am here to assist.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th October 2015, 14:43
Hi:

I made several posts on the trajectories that my work can take (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1005129&viewfull=1#post1005129), from going nowhere (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006303&viewfull=1#post1006303) to making the Fifth Epoch happen (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006645&viewfull=1#post1006645) to destroying Earth (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1007275&viewfull=1#post1007275). Maybe my attempt will not help at all, and somebody else is going to do it. Maybe Godzilla unveils his Golden Hoard next week, because Obama asked him to. :) What I did not explore, because it is the most remote possibility of all, is that I mount some half-cocked effort that tries to "do something" and ends up in flames and wrecked and prematurely terminated lives. That is one area where I have far more experience than I ever wanted or imagined (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting), and I will do all I can so that such a fate never befalls my effort. I would rather accomplish nothing than risk that. I learned those lessons, I think. :) If my work is hijacked (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1006450&viewfull=1#post1006450), I would expect that the choir (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir) is going to be worldly enough, with enough integrity and sentience, to not follow those dark path Pied Pipers, like I watched so many do when our companies were stolen during my days with Dennis. That is partly why I am being so picky about who joins the choir.

The greatest threat to my work is likely going to be people trying to turn my effort into some mass movement (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level10), beseeching the rich and powerful (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#beseeching1), and those other many other "bright ideas (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches)" that not only have never come close to working, but can even be suicidal. I played those games, watched others around me play them, and I learned from the experiences, which more than anything led to my current approach. My way will work, if I can find the people who are able and willing to do the work (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69) and do not look for shortcuts, think their social circles will wake up to FE talk (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#socialcircle), that they can go play FE salesman in the market of ideas, play the hero or messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah1), and so on. I have seen it all. The only thing that I need these days is for people to do the work so that they can have that high-level, comprehensive conversation. Some are studying today to have that conversation, and we will see how it goes.

I seek needles in haystacks and know it, and it does no good to judge the sleeping masses (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#judge1), living their nightmares of scarcity. They will only begin to wake up when the means of abundance are delivered into their lives (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#brink). It has been that way for all Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochaltable), and a relative handful are going to initiate the Epoch, just like the other times. The social approach is not going to work. Sociality is a pre-sentient behavior (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#grooming), and high sentience is required for manifesting the biggest event in the human journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5). Many years ago, I heard a prominent activist admit that nearly all people are like dogs, just wanting pack acceptance, and he tailored his activism accordingly. That won’t work for what I am doing. My effort cannot play to pre-sentient proclivities. Godzilla is the master of herding humanity by playing to our pre-sentient and baser traits (hunger, sex, fear, greed (http://ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed), etc.), and any effort that plays to those traits for making FE happen is doomed before it begins. The effort has to aim high.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th October 2015, 14:08
Hi:

Briefly, I received this email (http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=78add1b6-710b-4035-bdfa-6e2f86f28e2a&c=e7e91040-cdc1-11e3-9a3e-d4ae527b79b7&ch=e937d760-cdc1-11e3-9a82-d4ae527b79b7) from Greer's organization today, and Greer gets it (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#greer), that any attempts to patent (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#patent) or make the technology proprietary (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#proprietary) have always ended up with the technology being sequestered. It has happened thousands of times (http://ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff). Tewari is using an inferior version of Trombly's technology, which was patented and then seized. It is like the inventors are unwilling or incapable of learning. Tewari's version is very primitive compared to other technologies that I know of, but any so-called "overunity" device is subject to being sequestered. India may turn out to be different, but I am not holding my breath.

Stacks of books have been next to my bed since 1990, where I do most of my book reading. I stare at computer screens for most of my waking hours when I am working, as I am now, and read books in bed, before I go to sleep. In the past few weeks, I have been picking up and rereading parts of Sheldrake's The Science Delusion. It is good stuff, and a fairly tame challenge to materialism. He described his encounters with arch-materialist Richard Dawkins, who makes grand pronouncements but refuses to examine the evidence. Sheldrake asked a very basic question: is science is a process of inquiry or a religion based on dogmatic beliefs? It is a religion to Dawkins and all materialists, but they are unable or unwilling to see or admit it. That the "skeptics" succeeded in getting Sheldrake's talk banned at TED is typical (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=740177&viewfull=1#post740177). They can just make it up as they go, lying out of both sides of their mouths, to protect their religion.

The greatest scientists were keenly aware of the limits of science (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical), but hacks like Dawkins (in studying for my big essay, I was surprised at how reviled Dawkins is among scientists, as they often see him as a fundamentalist preacher for materialism, not speaking on behalf of science) turn the process of science into a religion. The foot soldiers of materialism are many and well paid, and comprise the bulk of the "skeptical" societies, which in my experience (http://ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends) are criminal organizations. The ideal of science (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#theories), like religion (http://ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#jesus), like democracy, like a free press (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big), like an objective history (http://ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity), is a beautiful thing, but in the hands of self-serving (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) people grappling in a world of scarcity and fear (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming), it can become something grotesque. Materialism is the dominant religion of the Fourth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal4), and like so many other aspects of the prior Epochs, will disappear in the Fifth (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5).

As SL perceptively noted some time ago, with FE and abundance, the ideals of many visionaries can finally be realized. In a world of scarcity, they are unworkable or attempts to achieve them fall woefully short. But even those visionaries cannot really imagine where a world based on abundance can go. The world will end as we know it, as it has for all Epochal Events (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#imagine).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th October 2015, 15:41
Hi:

It looks like I have never done it publicly before, so I am going to make a few posts on my real world experiences other than my days with Dennis. I have already written about my post-graduate days before I met Dennis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), my mystical awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown) and subsequent activities (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#research), and my early experience with the medical racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience), and I don’t plan to write about them again all that much. These posts will be on what I saw and learned in the trucking business (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#footnotes).

My first encounters with the USA's legal system were in kangaroo court (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail), and that was one hell of an eye-opener, but as Gary Wean told me (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#wean), we weren't experiencing anything too unusual. The USA's legal system is evil, from top to bottom. Justice takes a back seat to winning, greed, and outright evil. Trucking is a far more earthly pursuit than pursuing FE or the high-tech industry, and I got to see the system's mundane evil during my trucking days.

Trucks kill people, and my first three years there, we killed one person a year, and it was always because one of our trucks was turning across a road (not always legally), the oncoming car did not see the flatbed trailer, and drove right under it. The incidents happened at dusk or at night. An easy solution was putting reflective tape around the trailer, but the trucking industry lobbied against that tape, as it cost something like $50 per trailer, which the industry called prohibitively expensive and fought all the way. I was a corporate officer and could go to jail for negligence at my company, I made myself look at pictures of the people that our trucks killed, and I made my opinion known that we should put tape on our trailers, law or not. In that instance, the trucking lobby was not strong enough and the law was passed. Deaths went down dramatically (http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/regrev/evaluate/809222.html), but the industry kept on lobbying against that tape for years, exempting older trailers (http://articles.mcall.com/1998-09-27/news/3206483_1_trailer-tow-truck-reflective-tape), while people died.

Several years into my career at the trucking company, I went to my first and only industry conference, because it was held in Columbus (http://ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm), where I worked. My tales of air pollution in LA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=321647&viewfull=1#post321647) were far from exaggerations. In the 1990s, California finally began passing and enforcing strict air pollution laws, and at that conference, one of the speakers was a lobbyist. He lamented California's new air pollution laws that were making it hard for trucks, and he was working hard to overturn the laws. He acted like everybody in the room was with him, cheering on his lobbying efforts for the industry, but I sat there, stupefied. If that lobbyist had lived in LA, he would not be lobbying to get those new laws repealed. LA still has the worst air pollution in the USA, but it is nothing compared to the 1970s and 1980s. The closest thing I have seen to it is Beijing on a bad day (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/16/china-smog-air-pollution/4504729/). Beijing's is actually worse. On bad days in LA, I could not see the skyscraper that I worked in, a quarter-mile from it. In Beijing, you can't see across the street on the worst days, but many of the Beijing air pollution images (https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrTccazyRdWJSgAmc8nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Beijing+Air+Pollution&fr=yhs-mozilla-004&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004) on the Internet look like LA did in the early 1980s.

After my experiences with Dennis and at that medical lab, I did not need any more examples of our "justice" system in action, but I got another bellyful of it during my trucking days. I don’t want to get too far into the arcane details, but soon after I began there, an agent (they sell to our customers as independent sales agents, like a commissioned salesman but as an independent business) stole $70,000 from us by collecting the invoice from the customer directly, when the company billed, collected, and paid the trucks and agents. It was naked theft, without a shred of legal standing, similar to robbing a bank. Our company was in Ohio, while that agent was in Indiana. We had two sister companies in Indiana, and southern Indiana starts getting into hillbilly country, in marked contrast to the industrialized northern part of the state, similar to Ohio. I can’t recall what part of Indiana the agent was from, but we took the agent to court. It was a slam-dunk case, like catching a bank robber in the act. The judge not only ruled in favor of the agent, but ordered us to pay the court costs. I was only there a few months when that happened, and my president just sat there, with a stupefied expression, and he told me that that was how "justice" worked in Indiana.

The likely story was that the agent was related to somebody powerful who influenced the judge, and the judge likely got a cut of the $70,000 that the agent stole from us, or the judge approached the thief, and "offered" to fix the case for his cut. Gary Wean's book (http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean) is full of stuff like that happening in LA and Ventura County, and I was seeing how it worked in the Midwest. What was particularly enlightening was how bold-faced the lies and rulings were, which amounted to, "We have the power and you don't. You are screwed, and we are enjoying the moment."

In the 1990s, we were desperate for drivers, and there was a criminal element in the driver population, and in my coming posts, I'll tell some anecdotes, to give a flavor of what we had to deal with. I am going to finish these posts with the topper, however, where trucking company policy was how to literally get away with murder, and I saw it happen (not at my company, although I will tell a story that has a similar ring to it, that happened at my company).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th October 2015, 14:14
Hi:

Last night, a pal wrote me on the goals that any progressive effort should have, and he came up with these:


Freedom for all humans on the planet
Abundance for every human on the planet
Peace on the planet
Environmental restoration of the planet

He wrote it out of a sense of frustration, as the so-called progressives are scattered all over, without any unifying sense of purpose or strategy, like Godzilla (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gc) has (although he is fractured (http://ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal), too). Those are all worthy goals, and should be at the top of any true progressive's list, and FE makes them all happen (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5), as a side-effect. That is the mind-boggling part of what I do, that the Big One, which makes all other "solutions" pale to insignificance, is denied (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level1), ignored, feared (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5), dismissed, attacked, and so on, and especially by "progressives." That blew Brian away as he played the Paul Revere of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions). For those hacking at branches, the very idea of a root scares them, as it makes their activities pointless, and their egos (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/49-Manifesting-Free-Energy?p=260&viewfull=1#post260) can't handle that.

What really helped me eventually see the big picture was my mystical awakening (http://ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown). Without that, my journey (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#adventures) would not have happened or would not have lasted long. It helped me understand the difference between thinking like a creator (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest) and thinking like a victim (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness), the difference between a comprehensive vision and tunnel vision (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming), and many other vitally important ideas.

At an NEM board meeting (http://ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem), a member stated that unless an effort was economically innovative, it was not going to go anywhere. But almost all "progressives" are both scientifically and economically illiterate, and by that I mean real economics, not the fraudulent theorizing that comprises mainstream economics (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economists), which is focused on exchange and simply assumes that resources are only limited by market forces. That is an idiotic way to view the situation, but that is how the economics profession plays the game. I have to wonder (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#economy3) if it is one more way that we can see Godzilla's hand at work (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#chicagoschool), as "intellectuals" do little more than contemplate their navels and smoke their pipes. The exchange aspect of economics will be meaningless in the Fifth Epoch (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#exchange), and focusing on it has been the bane of all "progressives," as they try to more equitably divvy up humanity's scarce economic pie. Make that pie a thousand (million?) times larger, and nobody is going to be fighting over how big their neighbor's slice is.

As I have always stated, it begins in the heart. If a person's heart is not in the right place, the rest simply does not matter (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/52-Helpful-Prerequisites-for-Forum-Participation?p=69&viewfull=1#post69). In a world of scarcity and fear, personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity. That was my journey's most important lesson (http://ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn), and I resisted it every step of the way. Where virtually all "progressives" and "activists" miss the boat is focusing on elites as the root of the problem (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness), when the enemy is us and always has been. As Brian O stated, the only effort with a chance of success will rely on combined positive intention (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#gcfocus), not making the elite, including Godzilla, the focus. That is where conspiracists and structuralists (http://ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) both err, with their conflict-and-complaint-oriented efforts. That is not how creators approach the issue. "Protest" is victim-oriented and useless, and attracts delusional Young Warriors (http://ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors) and others who are no help to the cause or are detrimental to it.

Truly, if I can find and train those 5,000-7,000 "singers (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#choir)," making FE happen will be laughably easy, and Godzilla will simply slink away, as it will be game over, and he knows it. That is why he puts so much effort into his organized suppression of FE (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#levels1) and related technologies, but FE the most by far. He knows it is the entire ballgame, and his greatest triumph is making FE and what can come with it unimaginable, or even better, people fear the mention of it (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#level5). If I had not witnessed it countless times, I would not have believed it.

There is no organization on Earth today with the right stuff to go after FE, and the field has long been in a state of arrested development (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#arrested), dominated by scientists and inventors, dreaming of riches and fame, announcing that they are the messiah (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#messiah), etc., as they all follow the same paths of disaster (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#approaches).

I am doing something very different, and Dennis and Brian immediately recognized it (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=918852&viewfull=1#post918852). As I recently wrote (http://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/49-Manifesting-Free-Energy?p=256&viewfull=1#post256), maybe it will make a dent, and maybe it won't, but it should not hurt anything, other than make Godzilla's dark plans obsolete, along with elites (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#elitedisappear).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th October 2015, 16:27
Hi:

Back to trucking. There are millions of 18-wheelers on the road in the USA (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#introduction), with millions of people driving them. Most of them essentially live in their trucks. It is a miserable existence, and in the capitalist USA, the drivers are generally paid by the mile. All drivers would love to be local drivers and sleep in their bed at home each night, but they get "combat pay" for driving over the road, living in their trucks. In the 1990s, that situation of drivers living in their trucks and being paid by the mile for their "combat pay" encouraged two behaviors: drivers driving too fast and driving for more hours than they were legally allowed to. I just looked it up, and it is still a big problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hours_of_service#Enforcement). Because of that situation, driver fatigue was the leading cause of accidents and drivers still cause about 90% of truck accidents (http://www.overdriveonline.com/oregon-an-edge-on-hours/). It seems like it has not changed much since the 1990s. I could tell macabre tales, such as when a sister company got "lucky" when its driver ran through a stop sign (probably because the driver fell asleep at the wheel) and ran over a car, killing the car's driver. But the car's driver had no next of kin, so we only had to pay for the funeral. Killing an MD with a family could result in a multi-million dollar settlement, and just before I left my company, a trip-leaser (the definition will come soon) swerved into oncoming traffic and killed an entire family in a van. It was five people, as I recall.

When I was there, I tried to upgrade our professional environment and hired people from outside the industry. I developed the first MPG system for our trucks (http://ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#mpg), and a bonus system designed to reward economical and safe driving. Soon before I left the company, I conceived a way to take the company's back office paperless (I was 20 years ahead of my time and more (the industrial company I work for today still has not gone paperless, which is typical, and several years ago, I spurred my high tech company to go paperless)), and tried to get our systems so that we could enforce hours of service and detect log forgery. As you can see in that Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hours_of_service#Enforcement), a concern if I was successful was drivers quitting and working for more lax companies. I am just giving the impression of what I was trying to do and what the problems were.

In a world of scarcity, there are steep economic, political, and social hierarchies, even in history's richest and most powerful nation. The drivers for our trucks were mostly from Appalachia, those poor hillbilly types that are part of my family's heritage (http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#englishinvasion). American medical doctors are Earth's highest-paid professionals, working for a huge racket (http://ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#chemical), and in hospitals, the nurses want to bag a doctor as a way to financial security. When I worked for the big public accounting firms (http://ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing), the women in administration bagged rising stars who were destined to make partner. I was targeted but lived like a monk, not wanting to get bagged by a woman who could not imagine living anyplace other than in LA, which I could barely stand to live in (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928), and one that I kept in touch with was a receptionist. She told me how her co-worker receptionist bagged a rising star at the firm and immediately began producing babies. That woman told me her coworker's "achievement" in tones of, "She made it!" The woman was happy for her co-worker who bagged a meal ticket. In towns around military bases is a lower level of the same game, where officers are targeted to get "bagged," and the movie An Officer and a Gentleman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Officer_and_a_Gentleman) portrayed that very real milieu. At a lower level still is the trucking industry, and women from that hillbilly and low-level working class want to bag a truck driver, who can be a knight in shining armor in that socio-economic milieu. Truck drivers earn steady pay and are rarely home, so it can work out for a woman to bag a man like that (shacking up with a local driver while her husband is on the road – that is far from apocryphal, as it was a pretty typical situation and a close relative even experienced that), and at worst she will get child support for her litter of children. At our company, most employee drivers had child support deducted from their paychecks. Not only do their marriages rarely survive the rigors of drivers living in their trucks, many truck stops are filled with "camp follower" types, and truck stop prostitutes are called "lot lizards" and other colorful names. There has been a "cleaning" up of the industry in the past generation, but many big problems still remain (http://www.truckingtruth.com/trucking_blogs/Article-1592/what-makes-a-truck-driver-dealing-with-the-stereotype).

Our company's policy was to not pick up hitchhikers, which is standard, and here is an example why. We had an office in Saint Louis, and drivers quit all the time, as the trucking companies fought each other for drivers. One day, a driver called our Saint Louis operation and quit. He was in the West, around Denver, as I recall, and he was taking his load to our Saint Louis office, to quit. But at a truck stop along the way, he picked up a hitchhiker, obviously not observing our policy, as he was quitting. At a truck stop on the way to Saint Louis, the driver stopped for a meal and shower, and when he came out, his truck was gone. That was also part of the milieu, where criminals played the system, stealing trucks, fuel, tires, loads, trailers, and the like. Our driver foolishly allowed our truck to get stolen by the hitchhiker. When a truck is stolen, it can have many fates. Some end up in "chop shops," where the truck is dismantled for parts and the like. Some are merely stripped and the skeleton of the truck is abandoned along a road. Too often, the drivers we hired were those criminals, and they would sell off our fuel, tires, load, and the like. Others like that hitchhiker found other ways to obtain the goods.

When we heard that our truck was stolen, we notified the police and our insurance company. If a single person bought a truck (called the "tractor" in the industry) like what we drove, it cost about $100K about 25 years ago. We bought them by the hundred, so we "only" paid $60K per tractor. The net income of our operation, with several hundred owned and leased trucks ("leased" here means that somebody else owned the truck and leased it to us, usually driven by the truck's owner, called an "owner-operator"), was often about $100K in a good month, as I recall, so an uninsured stolen truck meant about a month in profits. As the controller, that kind of activity made me unhappy. But our trucks were insured, so there was not an immediate $60K hit to our income statement, but with insurance, you always pay for it, in the end, in your premiums. Incidents like that increase your loss experience and affect your premiums, in the long run.

Neither the police nor the insurance company seemed interested in helping us recover our truck, and about a week after it was stolen, we got a call from a "lot lizard" whom that truck thief picked up at a truck stop. She called to say that she rode with the driver for a time but hastily departed the truck and left her purse in the cab, and she called to let us know that she had nothing to do with stealing the truck. There is an underground economy for stolen trucks like that, and one option for the thief was to get new door signs painted on the truck, get forged ownership paperwork, and he ran loads for companies as a trip-leaser (leasing on for one trip). It did not seem like he stole the loads, which would not have been surprising, but he ran loads with our stolen tractor and trailer, crisscrossing the USA, having a good old time, doing business with lot lizards and the like.

That lot lizard gave us the thief's name and address, and we duly reported it to the police and insurance company. The thief lived near Chicago, as I recall. They were not interested in doing anything about it, and a few weeks later, that lot lizard called us again, letting us know that she was now carrying the thief's baby. That tragicomedy played out all summer, as every few weeks we would hear something about that truck, as it crisscrossed the USA, hauling loads.

Americans are familiar with truck scales. Scales are often at state borders, and they are enforcement stops. Trucks have weight limits, for safety, and again, in a world of scarcity, with trucks being paid by the load, often by weight, there is an incentive to carry loads that are too heavy to be legal, which makes them unsafe. All over the USA, overweight trucks were driven by tired drivers who forged their logs to cover up that they were driving more hours than they legally could, and drove too fast to boot. At a scale, not only was the truck's weight checked, but paperwork could be checked, such as driver logs, bills of lading (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_lading), and the like. I had drivers tell me how they avoided scales, such as a switch that turned off their running lights, so it did not look like a truck at night, from a distance, so they could carry loads far in excess of the legal limits. On a highway, driving past a scale that is open is called "running a scale." It is like running from the police. That stolen truck drove for months, all over the USA, and I am sure the truck thief avoided all the scales (driving past the scales around midnight, when the scale was closed, is one way to avoid them), but he ran a scale at the Tennessee border. Tennessee is one of the stickler states, like Oregon (http://www.overdriveonline.com/oregon-an-edge-on-hours/), because they have so much truck traffic and they tax the trucks heavily, and that truck thief made his big mistake by running a Tennessee scale (they would have likely discovered that he was driving a stolen truck). Tennessee put out an "all-points bulletin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-points_bulletin)" and that truck thief was in custody within an hour. I am not sure what state he went to prison in, but he was put away for some time, as I recall.

That was an example of what one trucking executive told me was the police, "only enforcing the laws that they want to enforce." Nobody cared when our truck was stolen, but when he ran a scale in Tennessee, he stepped on the wrong toes. I could tell many "funny" stories like that, but when I was the controller, and those "stories" wrecked our profit for the month, I was not laughing. I will tell one more thief story (and a colorful anecdote about driving in Mexico) and how the trucking industry and legal system worked, before I get to my big one, and it was one of the many Twilight Zone moments of my life.

Best,

Wade