WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[ThePythonicCow]

On another arm of the galaxy, a moon-sized diamond orbited a planet and was involved in harmonic experiments.
And in other news:
Astronomers have spotted an exotic planet that seems to be made of diamond racing around a tiny star in our galactic backyard.

The new planet is far denser than any other known so far and consists largely of carbon. Because it is so dense, scientists calculate the carbon must be crystalline, so a large part of this strange world will effectively be diamond.

"The evolutionary history and amazing density of the planet all suggest it is comprised of carbon -- i.e. a massive diamond orbiting a neutron star every two hours in an orbit so tight it would fit inside our own Sun," said Matthew Bailes of Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne.
This is from Astronomers discover planet made of diamond (Reuters) (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/25/us-planet-diamond-idUSTRE77O69A20110825).

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

One of the great pleasures of doing a visions post like that is that people like you not only “get it,” but you add dimensions to it that I scarcely considered. Yeah, I don’t know about Nason’s reality, or Don Shimoda’s. I was about to say that I “just” made him up when Paul’s post sent shivers up my spine. It looks like I made my post about an hour before that news hit the wires. All I can say is that I was not aware that scientists thought that orbiting diamonds might be out there, or that they think they may have just discovered one. That is about the fifth Twilight Zone moment that I have had on this thread so far, so maybe Nason is on his way! :) Well, if there is a golden moon someplace, it has to be artificial! :)

Before Paul made that post, I was going to say that one of my Silva instructors of long ago told me that when writers were “just” making it up in fantasy and science fiction, were they writing about some distant species memory (or future memory)? I sure don’t know, but when I write about orbiting diamonds and a news story comes out an hour later about how the think they found one, I don’t know what to think about Nason’s reality. But as Ulli says, Nason is one cool dude. :)

Well, at more than one thousand posts and more than fifty thousand views, this thread is getting a little unwieldy. There are nearly as many views of this thread as there are of my site. At two hundred thousand visits a year now, I am feeling a little more pressure to step up my game, get some more essay writing done, start that conversation on the big picture, and so on. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

Beautiful Wade, I love it, gentle, loving, and full of imagination and creation. Felt like I was there experiencing it while reading and ended up feeling so at peace. Thank you

Just the other day I was posting on another thread where they asked the question: What is Freedom to you ? After giving it some serious thought, my answer was to be free of all fear, so to see your vision of a world with no fear was very poignant for me as my imagination runs wild with what I see as a result :)

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

I would really like to be in Nason's place :) I resonate with your sentient gardening idea very much Wade :)

[Wade Frazier]

Glad that you liked Nason's world. I do too.

[Wade Frazier]

OK, if anybody can help, I will take it. I am trying to get Brian’s final statement on the moon landings someplace where it will be prominent enough so that Wikipedia’s editors won’t erase it.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

Brian did not want to be known as the astronaut who doubted that we landed on the moon. He would have rather been known as the FE astronaut. :)

It is one of the loose ends that I need to tie up regarding his life. I have enlisted some help in high places, but nothing yet.

Thanks,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

OK, if anybody can help, I will take it. I am trying to get Brian’s final statement on the moon landings someplace where it will be prominent enough so that Wikipedia’s editors won’t erase it.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

Brian did not want to be known as the astronaut who doubted that we landed on the moon. He would have rather been known as the FE astronaut. :)

It is one of the loose ends that I need to tie up regarding his life. I have enlisted some help in high places, but nothing yet.

Thanks,

Wade

Hi Wade....Just a Thought....maybe start a Facebook Page in Memory of Brian with His Real Story and His Final Statement!

"Create A Page" under Artist, Band or Public Figure

I have a feeling it will get alot of viewers and definitely get the 'true' word out of Brian by You!

Wishing You the Best !

Dan

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Dan:

Thanks for the suggestion. For this situation, I am thinking more along the lines of NASA, the major media, the Ivy League, that sort of thing. Wikipedia plays the “reliable sources” game, which on one hand may seem reasonable, but on the other hand it works great at shutting out anything alternative. If I can’t get it hosted someplace like that, it will never appear for long on Brian’s Wikipedia article. I am not trying to get “his story” out there any more than I will be when I publish my Brian essays before long.

It can be considered kind of funny that I am going that route, with all the things that I say about the media:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

and so on. When Brian asked me to do his biographies for NASA and Wikipedia, I had mixed feelings about it. My plate was overflowing already, and while I wondered what Brian had in mind with that DOE proposal:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

and I wrote my parts of it literally while packing boxes for my move, right after I had been evicted from my home, I am glad that I did it.

On the bio front, I had already had a bad experience with Wikipedia:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm

was not eager to repeat the experience, and I knew that a big reason for Brian not having a NASA bio was political, for a number of reasons. Brian was already “out there” compared to just about all of his astronaut brethren, had bad experiences with various parties, including NASA, defrocking him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_ednref5

but that ten seconds on FOX TV pretty much wrecked his remaining relationships with the astronaut corps. So, when I received silence from NASA’s public-facing arm, I was not too surprised, and eventually found a way around the roadblocks. As I have stated before, once I interacted directly with the astronauts, they treated me fairly and better than I expected.

I need to anchor Brian’s “final word” on the moon landings in a place where the Wikipedia editors can’t erase it like they have already. That means someplace like NASA, a major media institution, the Ivy League, and so on. Many people with agendas want to keep Brian’s participation in the moon landing issue alive, so the source has to be one that they can’t impeach. This is not the first time that I have run into that issue at Wikipedia.

I have plenty of avenues to try. I am going to reach out to the astronauts, among others, but the astronauts may have conflicts that prevent them from helping. Reaching out on this thread is one of many opportunities, but I would take this thread over almost any other place on the Internet, for help with finding a “third-party” home for something like that. I’ll take what help that I can get in helping to establish Brian’s legacy the proper way, and keep it out of the circus stuff that has surrounded his efforts.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

Hi Wade,

I was wondering if Brian's educational history might be a starting point for academic awareness. I'm sure his University and other training institutes would love the credit and public acclamation of their influence in Brain becoming an astronaut and be open to his bio being published in all their areas of publication. Associations he belonged to in his life time would also like this recognition and their publications reach many in the associated industries.

As I indicated, it might be a starting point to chip away at the blockade the media and Wikipedia have created. One small step into these doorways may create the person or individuals that have the avenues to set the record straight for Brian.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Sandy:

Thanks for the suggestion. We will see how it goes.

Wade

[Guest]

OK, if anybody can help, I will take it. I am trying to get Brian’s final statement on the moon landings someplace where it will be prominent enough so that Wikipedia’s editors won’t erase it.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

Brian did not want to be known as the astronaut who doubted that we landed on the moon. He would have rather been known as the FE astronaut. :)

It is one of the loose ends that I need to tie up regarding his life. I have enlisted some help in high places, but nothing yet.

Thanks,

Wade

Thank you Wade,


Someone could create a web site about Brian.....his life, education and personal story. It could have links to other sites on the subject about the moon landings. links to e-essays and (e-books) also and FE. Maybe create a Brian's blog page. I know you are already doing this.... Unsolved Mysteries 60 minutes well just a little brain storming.... Nora

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Nora:

Brian had a site:

http://www.brianoleary.info/index.html

but none of that will make it so that his "last word" has a home that Wikipedia will recognize. It needs to be hosted someplace institutional.

Thanks,

Wade

[Guest]

Thank you Wade,

I appreciate your reply and your time.... your efforts to shift the consciousness of the planet is amazing.

I looked at Brian's site

Nora

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

For Nason!

9625

[Wade Frazier]

Nason has his own art department! Thanks. That is sufficiently cosmic. :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

It looks like I am officially playing in two forums. I was working on a Godzilla post this weekend, when this post was made at Nexus:

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?5227-STEN-what-FE-movement-needs&p=36480&viewfull=1#post36480

which I needed to respond to. Godzilla is watching my activities, and there have been recent events that hint that he is watching a little more carefully, and I was working on a post that provided some lessons of what his early tactics look like, so fewer become ensnared in his games. As I have mentioned many times, there is a playbook that Godzilla uses, with violence as a last resort. Violence is only a last resort because a trail of bodies is messy and tends to wake up too many people to the game being played. A sleeping public is a key factor for Godzilla's realizing his ambitions. Last week, I listened to an interview that Brian gave a few years ago:

http://www.naturalnews.com/podcasts/Brian-Oleary-2008.mp3

and it will be a touchstone for that Godzilla post that I am working on.

Enjoy the rest of summer, for those of you who are in a position to do so.

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

Thank you Wade,

I appreciate your reply and your time.... your efforts to shift the consciousness of the planet is amazing.

I looked at Brian's site

Nora

Not to underestimate your own efforts, Nora.
It takes one to know one.

The fact that you are reading here on Wade's thread
and digesting his message is a sign of where you are at...

As within, so without.

I have the feeling that with Brian's passing Wade's role
has taken on a new meaning...

Just one minor detail I wanted to hint at:

Look carefully at Godzilla...what do you see?

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wade,


Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity

This one is the most difficult to accept or understand, especially if you don't have any experience in the FE milieu. At a superficial appreciation it looks like you have the support of your family, some of the neighbors and the some "really close" friends. With such a worthy goal sure you can rally the support of lots of good men and women, right? Who would not want to live in abundance?

Perhaps some real life experience is required to get this one...

There was a thread here at Avalon called "What is your price?" (or something similar). I've seen many honorable replies, young warriors, free spirits, with bold claims! All I could think of was "talk is cheap, indeed".

I don't doubt the honesty of the posters, and most likely I read the replies through my own filters, but I know from experience that a promise made from the comfort of your home means nothing in the field when you're actually confronted with the problem. I try to stay away from such promises, or to get sucked into believing others' promises. So yeah, the "path of the lambs" is probably the best path for me right now.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

Yes, nobody really wants to believe that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, probably mainly because then they have to look in the mirror, and take a good look at those around them.

As I mentioned in an interview with Scott (64 minutes into this clip – it took me awhile to find it),

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/wade-frazier-m-the-free-energy-inventors.html

you do not know what you are made of until you are laying your life on the line, so I have heard those boyish boasts many times, and it is pretty empty talk. In warfare, newbies making boasts of what their feats on the battlefield would be is received dimly by the veterans, but when a superior officer makes that boast, then the grunts just shake their heads (if they don’t frag them).

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#mac

As I mentioned earlier, my mother’s dementia is giving me the freedom to reveal some events around my journey that will be educational on just this subject, and some is coming up in my Godzilla post. When the sledgehammer came down in my hometown of Ventura, I got worse than no help from my immediate family: I was actively attacked, and the most dismaying attacks came from my parents. And it was not like I was some difficult-to-raise child; I was recognized as a golden boy from the time I could walk, and my parents groomed me for a life of achievement.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_ednref4

In fact, one teacher wrote that he thought that my parents were pushing me too hard:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#_ednref2

My parents knew that I was an overgrown Boy Scout, but when the Big Boys called in the airstrike on us in Ventura, both parents eventually accused me of criminal motivation. I had already been attacked by friends who were my shareholders, one of whom was an ex-girlfriend that I once thought of marrying, and I began waking up quickly after I became Dennis’s partner:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

So, what happened in Ventura was not that surprising, but when your own parents cannot fathom your motivation, and it was the very motivation that they raised you to have, how the heck is anybody else going to understand it? I wish that I was reporting some kind of aberration, but I came to find out that my experiences were normal. Mr. Professor is a case in point.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

He was the oldest of five children, with four younger sisters. His father was an alcoholic, so Mr. Professor became the man of the family, and when he joined the military, his paycheck was sent home to keep the family afloat. He was the best teacher that I ever had, and was beloved by the entire faculty at his college, partly because he gave free tax advice to any faculty member who asked him when he was on campus. He also had a tax practice with a CPA firm, and worked the standard 80-hour weeks during tax season, while teaching college at the same time, but the faculty got his time for free when he was on campus. Because of that and other things, he almost ran the college. He had keys to all the athletic facilities, and he and I played basketball in the gym on the weekend when the college was closed. When he lived on the family farm, one of his favorite “practical jokes” was to do his neighbor’s harvest when they were out of town, and they would come back to their harvest being done and stacked up, and they had no idea who did it (although I imagine that everybody in the area suspected who pulled those kinds of “pranks”).

The man was a saint, and was very close to his mother. When his health failed during the Ventura mayhem and he moved back to the farm, he put his house a hundred yards from his mother’s on the family farm.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

She died in about 1995, after having a debilitating stroke, and he oversaw her care in her last few years. He only briefly mentioned it to me and obviously did not like talking about it, but his sisters accused him of stealing the family fortune, on the heels of the Ventura nightmare. He was the strong, silent type, but when I heard that, I caught one glimpse of many of what his journey with me ended up costing him. When he died, his life shortened by his involvement with my adventures, nobody from his side of family attended the funeral. Other than his wife, their adopted daughter, and his wife’s family, I was the only “family” there. As I sat in the funeral parlor as his wife said goodbye to his body, I saw him in his heaven, and he and his mother were beside his wife as she stood next to the coffin, and two angels were also with them. But his immediate family totally wrote him off. That is the fate of the saints in our world, especially if they do stuff like play the FE game. I have seen that kind of outcome over and over on my journey.

Personal integrity being the world’s scarcest commodity is the lesson that I resisted the longest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

until I finally had it beaten into my head. I could write for days on all the betrayals by friends and family during my FE days. If somebody had told me that it would happen like it did, and my family and friends would act so greedily, naively, cowardly, dishonorably and even criminally, I would not have believed it, either. And most of them never even came close to being in the firing line, but were mostly spectators. Learning that was the booby prize. However, there was compensation. For one thing, I found out how the world worked and why there is no FE today. The enemy is us, not Godzilla. Partnering with saints like Mr. Professor was an immense honor, and some friends supported me when it got hard, and they are like gold nuggets to me today, so it was not all bad, not by any stretch.

But, if anybody thinks that they can just go round up the “good guys” and go scale the FE ramparts, my question is “So, where are the good guys? I found a few on my journey, but I never found a club of them, or a town where they all lived.” Dennis is the only person on Earth whom I know of who could meet all of these qualifications:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#questionnaire

The bottom line is that when people like Dennis or Brian began scaling the ramparts, they were breaking out of the herd, and the herd desires safety via conformity at all costs. Acting like an individual, and a divinely-inspired one at that, is literally incomprehensible to the herd: and can be summed up with: "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#developing

The herd also cannot understand the self-servers, as Hitler observed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#hitler

That is also why the crowd cried “Give us Barabbas!” This is not a new dynamic, I am afraid. Einstein had plenty to say about sentience and herd behavior:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#sentience

Humanity’s herd behaviors are relics of our pre-sentient survival tactics, and when people revert to them, they are abdicating their sentience. Like Ben Franklin said about people giving up their freedom for security, in the flag-waving aftermath of 9/11,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

Americans gave up their sentience for security. Fear can do that, and people like the Bush gang are masters at manipulating the masses that way.

Yes, Ilie, getting a stampede of lambs going is my goal! :)

Best,

Wade

[Carmody]

Hi:

It looks like I am officially playing in two forums. I was working on a Godzilla post this weekend, when this post was made at Nexus:

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?5227-STEN-what-FE-movement-needs&p=36480&viewfull=1#post36480

which I needed to respond to. Godzilla is watching my activities, and there have been recent events that hint that he is watching a little more carefully, and I was working on a post that provided some lessons of what his early tactics look like, so fewer become ensnared in his games. As I have mentioned many times, there is a playbook that Godzilla uses, with violence as a last resort. Violence is only a last resort because a trail of bodies is messy and tends to wake up too many people to the game being played. A sleeping public is a key factor for Godzilla's realizing his ambitions. Last week, I listened to an interview that Brian gave a few years ago:

http://www.naturalnews.com/podcasts/Brian-Oleary-2008.mp3

and it will be a touchstone for that Godzilla post that I am working on.

Enjoy the rest of summer, for those of you who are in a position to do so.

Best,

Wade

oh yeah. he watches.

Today, a fire was started behind my house, in the woods.

And, when I called that fire in and went to the work place anyway, I get there, go the office I need to be at....and a call with no origins comes in...and there is no-one on the other end of the line.

This is normal fare for those who are watched, folks.

If one reads my last dozen posts or so, from this point in time -back, it may become evident as to the why.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Carmody:

Good luck with weathering the hassling. Lambs scattered across the planet should be fine, which is what I am trying to help amass. I can be an early-warning system for the lambs. My upcoming post, however, is designed the give the lambs some idea of what Godzilla’s minions look like when they show up, and the others who work similarly. There is some snooping happening right now in my vicinity. The dark side has a pretty obvious MO for those with eyes to see, but I have seen people almost effortlessly lured into the lion's den, people who you would think would have been worldly, and whose resumes said that they were.

One of the more amazing and disheartening aspects of my journey was watching all the “Give us Barabbas!” moments, when you could literally see the pointy tails sticking out of the pants of those leading the cheer, and when I would mention the smell of sulfur, I would get shouted down by those mesmerized by the spectacle, with the sulfur called “God’s perfume,” and so on, by people whose IQs were a lot higher than mine. That was part of my experience that told me that “intelligence” has little to do with having what it takes to make FE happen. It all begins in the heart. Again, almost everything that anybody needs to know to walk the straight and narrow was taught them by age five:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

It is just that people reject those early lessons, thinking that they are too grown up and sophisticated for them. The basics never change.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Oh, so that's what's happening?

Was wondering why I can't thank or post properly ever since my Joe Blow Posts...

Strange things happening on internet - slowed to a crawl, sometimes refuses to connect.

Phone not working properly. Ears ringing but I'm used to that. Strange encounters with strange people.

Unusual emotions, too intense and too fickle - it's not me.

While I'm here...
Dream a lamb's dream? - you mean keep living like I always have? Keep knowing what I always knew. And keep hoping for the hail mary pass.
Umm, okay. Business as usual, huh?

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Not sure about your Internet problems, but raising one's awareness is anything but business as usual. :) It has really never happened on the planet before, not more than a person here and there.

Until enough people manifest enough awareness and sentience, there is nothing to do on the FE front, unless they like getting eaten by Godzilla while their families and friends cheer and ask for their share of the meat. If people want to go do other stuff like write their local politician about air pollution, or go buy a hybrid car so they can live in the illusion that they are helping things out, then those avenues are open to them. My game is something else entirely.

If people have to go out and “do something,” that post by Scott on a cancer cure is one place where people can invest their efforts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=290867&viewfull=1#post290867

But anybody who tries that stuff needs some education.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm

Canada is far less corrupt than the USA, but the medical gangsters are quite active there, too. I don’t hear of too many murdered doctors up there. As an FYI, I was invited to talk with that scientist a few minutes before he began that interview. That scientist has survived numerous murder attempts, and during that interview he received a death threat from Godzilla, so he had to terminate the interview and they had to record it without him. I think that he will likely not get involved publicly with that again. So, there is one instance where Godzilla rears his head, one where I was on the periphery of it, in more ways than I can say publicly. Now, the FE Godzilla is not exactly the same lizard as the medical racket Godzilla, but they are cousins ( :) ), and at the highest levels, it is the same people who mind the global store, but the jungle is filled with all manner of predator. So, if people want to “do something,” providing awareness and visibility to that cure would be good work, but the ride can get a little rough…

Best,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

While I'm here...
Dream a lamb's dream? - you mean keep living like I always have? Keep knowing what I always knew. And keep hoping for the hail mary pass.
Umm, okay. Business as usual, huh?

Hi Ernie...Wishing You Well!
I have to say this...and this is NOT directed at You but Your statement simply prompted me to state this because I am adamantly doing it to the best of my higher know how...
"BE the 'hail mary pass!"...Live It...walk away from "anything" that does not seem right to You...simply walk away and GO Your Own Way following Your Heart and Inner Voice(s)....Right Now IS the Time...Right Now!
I somehow know You have what it takes...as do many , many "Good" People now at a 'crossroad' that is at it's strongest urging ever...that 'urge' has to be acted upon...THAT Energy of Personal Action Changes Everything!
UN-Group Yourself from ANY Group that is NOT in Rhythm with what YOU Are!!! Now!

The Highest Love to You and All....and I mean that!!! : )

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

As I have stated, I am posting in Nexus a little, too, and I replied to this thread this morning,

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?5227-STEN-what-FE-movement-needs-(or-not)&p=36480&viewfull=1#post36480

and it is also appropriate for this thread. Here it is:


Hi Luke:

Yes, you are bringing up what is probably the root issue of our existence in physical reality, and gaining that deep understanding is probably the key to making FE happen. I know that I can sound like a broken record on this point, but the masters knew their stuff, and they all knew that love was the answer. I say it too, but there are vitally important and real aspects of it. When New Agers do their mushy “love” stuff, they are not so far off the mark as it may seem. Love is not just a nice feeling to have, but love is literally the power of Creation. All the people I respect in the FE field have love of others as their baseline motivation. When I see people like Mr. Skeptic blatantly lie about Dennis, in order to attribute criminal motivation to him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

what it really says is that somebody from the “old world” literally cannot comprehend the new one. Mr. Skeptic is probably on the payroll, so his perception is likely not as “honest” as it may seem, but I have seen many others in the FE field blatantly lie about Dennis, too, people who allegedly want FE to happen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

After watching the innumerable lies and attacks for many years, I came to see it as a love-versus-fear dynamic. Dennis is easily the greatest human being that I ever encountered (he is the only person that I know of who meets all of these qualifications http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#questionnaire ), and the endless attacks from his “allies” show me how far we have to go.

Taking a loving approach on the FE issue is not only a “nice” approach, it also may be the only one that will work, because it is aligned with the Creator.

When you read all the accounts of a New Age arriving, Paradise Restored, Heaven on Earth, the Second Coming and all of that stuff, they are all saying the same thing, with very little real variation. In those realities, love reigns, happiness reigns, the Earth is healed and humanity’s interaction with Earth and nature is mutually beneficial. Obviously, a reality like that has never been the historical human experience. Instead, there is a constant hum of fear that pervades everybody’s awareness, and egocentric, fear-based ideologies prevail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Why do they prevail? Mainly because if you subscribe to them, you get a full belly and other economic perks. Fuller “got it” in ways that were important to the evolution of my understanding:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

In very real ways, love is FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

and I think that until enough of us come from a loving heart, we won’t get FE, and that is appropriate, I think. That is a big reason why I advocate the lamb’s path; it may very well be the only way that will work.

Here is an anecdote along the lines of your speculation. When I was seventeen, I wrote my first science fiction short story. It was about a man who lived on a distant planet. His ancestors came from Earth. They fled due to a nuclear holocaust (this was written during the Cold War days), as Earth became uninhabitable. The protagonist of my story was sent to scout Earth, to see if humanity could re-inhabit its former home. When he got there, he was surprised that Earth’s ecosystems had completely recovered and the radiation was gone. Earth was a paradise, and he spent a long time inspecting its ecosystems, hanging out with its abundant animal life, and indulged himself in a natural experience that no human had ever known. But while he was there, taking in Earth’s majesty, he thought about the civilization that sent him, and how they had yet to learn the lessons of living in harmony with Nature. He then made his report: Earth was still highly radioactive, surprisingly radioactive, and that humanity should not even consider returning to Earth to live for a few thousand more years.

That was what I wrote at age seventeen, and I can easily discern a lot of my subsequent motivation for pursuing FE. I wrote that story only a year after my mentor invented the world’s best engine for powering an automobile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

So, let’s say that your musings are familiar to me. :)

But, I know that we do not necessarily need to leave our home to “get it.” Again, that heavenly world that Roads visited is no fiction in my book:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I know highly accomplished mystical types who have visited such realities. In fact, I lent that book to one of them once (which is partly why my copy is falling apart and I will be buying a new copy soon), and the mystic said that it was just like places that he visited.

And how did that world come to be? They consciously chose love, which led to their mastery of energy. They could control the weather, but chose not to. They had genetic engineering, but with the life form’s eager consent. Humanity’s level of consciousness leapt up a few orders of magnitude. The average six-year-old knew more about the human body and how to be healthy than anybody living on Earth today. The entire human society was vegetarian and no animal was ever exploited, not even to be a pet. Humans and animals could choose to be together, but nobody “owned” a plant or animal.

I understand and sympathize that most people regard it as some Peter Pan fantasy, and all I can say is that they have yet to understand.

This “stampede of lambs” approach that I am advocating, which seems silly to many, may very well be the only way to a world of FE, because the means become the ends.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

Those who think that we need to kill the bad guys, or that they can defeat Godzilla in battle, do not yet understand, and they are acting from their Young Warrior delusions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

When people try to play the sneaky game, the capitalist game, the “let’s fight Godzilla" game, and so on, they are operating from fear, and we aren’t going to get to FE by playing the fear game, and if by some “miracle” we do get there by playing the fear game, that is when you can blow up a planet; although I think that there is a failsafe in, at least for this iteration of the game on Earth, and the fearful approach literally won’t work.

Perceptive readers should easily see a familiar dynamic here. The “realists” say that that mushy love stuff is well and good, but you have to break some eggs to make an omelet. The “realists” believe that the ends justify the means, which is why they always fail. I think that one reason why the vast majority of humanity is in the denial layers of the FE onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

is that at some deep level they know that FE and heaven on Earth means “game over” for their soul’s game of “kill or be killed,” “I win, you lose,” and so forth, so they don’t want the world that people like me envision. I think that I have to respect their awareness, however dark and fearful it is, which is another reason why I am taking the lamb’s path. At this time, more than 99% of humanity is against the idea of FE, and you probably have to see it to believe it. Brian O decided to play the Paul Revere of FE in 1996, and openly wondered several years later, after long rides around the planet, if humanity is really a sentient species. When I heard him say that, I knew that he found out. There is nothing like finding out through direct personal experience. Everybody who has ever walked the high road to FE has made similar observations.

I have written before that there may be several reasons for those kinds of reactions. They may have been hooked on scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

were playing their soul’s game of darkness and privation, and so on. In the end, the people I respect who advocate FE, and those denying it, are on opposite sides of the love/fear duality.

Got to run off to work now.

Love, :)

Wade

[Carmody]

When people try to play the sneaky game, the capitalist game, the “let’s fight Godzilla game,” and so on, they are operating from fear, and we aren’t going to get to FE by playing the fear game, and if by some “miracle” we do get there by playing the fear game, that is when you can blow up a planet. Although I think that there is failsafe in, at least for this iteration of the game on Earth, and the fearful approach literally won’t work.

Perceptive readers should easily see a familiar dynamic here. The “realists” say that that mushy love stuff is well and good, but you have to break some eggs to make an omelet. The “realists” believe that the ends justify the means, which is why they always fail. I think that one reason why the vast majority of humanity is in the denial layers of the FE onion.


I agree. I helped two young men deal with their new found anger -just the other day. They both understood the existence of these technologies but had no real understanding of the dangers of such. I illustrated the issue of psychological clarity needing to be correct, in order to handle this unfolding.

I push on the existence of free energy and other associated bits -- but I don't produce anything. I can and do take people to the table of understanding of the basics of the physics and fundamentals, but no further.

It is within their grasp, and can be found anywhere in the world today, literally in hundreds of places, now.

Like alchemy, the transformation of the self is also required in order to deal with this complexity of unleashing the mechanics of creation- to spirits incarnated in monkey based avatars.

This song was just playing as I put this post together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nItRdG8t_w

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Carmody:

I was just thinking about your post on the way home from work, and Brian O had a theme in his Miracle in the Void about the stages of grieving (the classic denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance), and it richly applies to the FE conundrum. Almost the entire planet is in denial right now. The denial basically is around these facts:

1. FE and other world-transforming technologies have been around for a long time;

2. Godzilla possesses them, and we aren’t getting any;

3. Any independent attempts to pursue those technologies are strangled in their cradles;

4. Godzilla cannot be defeated in battle or negotiated with – he can only be made obsolete;

5. We are all enabling Godzilla with our mentality and behaviors.

When people move beyond the denial layers of the FE onion on the issue of FE existing or being possible (layers 0 to 4):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

they usually get angry first. That is where the Young Warriors get stuck. So, they try out Level 9, but not really, because there is no battleground where they can challenge Godzilla. There is no office to bomb, and so on. Others play the bargaining game, trying to twiddle the Rubik’s Cube of getting around the problem by trying Levels 6, 7, 10 and 11, or variations thereof. Many will then end up in Level 8, feeling totally defeated (the depression stage). Now, those FE stages are usually for people who really never leave their armchairs, but go there in their minds, and like when Ilie first encountered me, he kept thinking that the other Levels below Level 12 had promise. He was probably depressed for a day or two. But, eventually, we all come to acceptance. Until we accept the situation, we really can’t change it. I have seen it said that until we own and love the situation, we can’t change it. I am still working on that one myself.

The Tale of Godzilla and the Sheeple is not a candidate for bedtime stories; it is too real, and almost nobody wants to admit that it can be. If we are ever going to transcend it, we have to accept and own it; that much, I know.

On that YouTube clip, half-deaf Wade could not hear the lyrics, but it seemed that there were some karmic lyrics in it, if that is what you were referring to.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Only half-joking... :biggrin:

http://calatoriecatrecentru.com/free_energy_progress.jpg

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

You want a job as my illustrator? :) Great graphic and not even half-joking, I am afraid. The lamb’s path probably needs to go through all of those phases. I remember the Dalia Lama once being asked about his non-violent efforts to gain Tibet’s freedom. He said that it was the long way to get there, but once you got there, you were there, and there was no going back. I think I understand what he was saying. Once you built a strong foundation, the house you were building was not going anywhere. My upcoming essay is intended to give the non-scientist something to chew on, as far as what energy means in our lives today, what it has meant in the past, and what energy abundance could mean. Once people begin gaining a comprehensive perspective, they can keep their eye on the ball and not get distracted by the circus.

Karl Marx once said that the proletariat needed to go through the trial by fire of bringing communism to the masses, so they could manage the situation when they got on top. I understand the part of needing to gain the experience so that one could handle what they were pursuing when they got there. Marx’s big mistake was his Young Warrior approach. In his Communist Manifesto, he ended with, “Hey you elites, we are coming to take your wealth by force, but it is for a good cause.” The ends never justify the means, and Marx himself began figuring it out later in life, as he saw what disasters violent revolution became, so he advocated peaceful activism. Any economic system that is not voluntary is going to ultimately be a failure. Capitalism is just taking longer to get there, and is also destroying humanity and the planet, as its racketeering nature keeps the lid on FE, anti-gravity, cancer cures and so on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

Capitalism may be the most inefficient system ever devised, but as long as its ideologues ignore the organized suppression aspects of it, especially around disruptive technologies, then they can repeat the fairy tales of capitalism and not be laughed at.

Back in the early 1990s, as the collapse of the Eastern Bloc was cheered in the West (don’t ask Russians how great the collapse was, as male life expectancy declined by ten years in the wake of the collapse), I read a channel saying that capitalism’s collapse was coming, too, and it mentioned Wall Street in particular. Not sure if 9/11 was part of that vision, but it was prophetic, and it is not over by any means. Any system founded on greed and fear is doomed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed

and I think the writing is on the wall, but we will see. When scarcity ends, the changes that will come are hard to imagine, but one thing is for sure: scarcity-based economic systems will go into the dustbin of history, like slavery, war, barefoot-and-pregnant women, and other “quaint” practices.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Below is what I just posted in response to this:

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?5227-STEN-what-FE-movement-needs-(or-not)&p=36942&viewfull=1#post36942

and it is germane to this forum, so it is below.

Best,

Wade


Hi Chicodooddo:

Good question. I think that I have dealt with it in my work pretty thoroughly, but here goes. Again, I am working on a Godzilla post at Avalon which is intended to help readers identify Godzilla when he appears, because he is snooping around in my vicinity right now.

My writings on this subject are not some theory, but are derived from my experiences in dealing with Godzilla and his minions. Dennis was one of the greatest threats that Godzilla ever faced, but he only got there after being chewed on by the lower-level predators. I am not going to call Hitler, Stalin and Limbaugh mere puppets, although I understand the sentiment. They were agents of their own volition. Yes, they were/are down the food chain a ways from Godzilla, but they were/are only playing a game that aligns with Godzilla’s goals. Again, for FE suppression, Godzilla almost never needs to lift a claw, because we do his work for him. It is hard to blame Godzilla for having motivations that almost everybody has, at one level or another. The lust for wealth and power is insatiable, but it is far from the sole province of the sociopaths.

My big surprise was not that Godzilla exists and is vigilant, but how almost everybody does his bidding, wittingly or not. Many people are anonymous in my writings, as I protect both the innocent and the guilty, but the guilty include my parents, and my mother’s dementia is freeing me to disclose some of it:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=296001&viewfull=1#post296001

When the investigator for the prosecution told Mr. Researcher that he did not even care if Dennis was guilty or not:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

he was voicing attitudes held by nearly all prosecutors, but only in the sticks of Ventura County would they openly admit it. During my ride with Dennis, I came to realize that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

and I resisted that lesson every step of the way. Heck, today, the USA is responsible for unprovoked genocides that vastly exceed what Hitler or Stalin accomplished. The death toll for Korea, Southeast Asia and Iraq and Afghanistan is nearly twenty million people, and I pretty much can’t find an American who knows or cares. But somehow, we are the good guys, bringing the light to the world.

I am sorry, but the average American, glued to the tube, watching Dancing with the Stars or Internet porn, gets the lion’s share of the responsibility for the evils that the USA is inflicting on the world today, not Godzilla. Godzilla makes sure that the game proceeds as intended; as long as we slaughter each other as we fight over our crumbs, Godzilla sits back and drinks a beer. To see all of us as victims of Godzilla’s machinations does not square with what I found during my FE days. What was incredible to me was watching people a lot smarter than me get effortlessly manipulated when Godzilla’s minions showed up. It was so obvious what the minions were up to, and I tried warning the people I saw run into Godzilla’s lair. They called me an idiot and other epithets, with a grin on their face as they raced into the lair, with their hands out, eagerly awaiting the riches promised them. I walked away as they disappeared into the lair, but I got to hear their shrieks of agony when Godzilla began munching on them. How did he lure them in? Almost always by promising riches and other perks that would never materialize, but the price of admission to getting eaten by Godzilla was usually betraying people like Dennis, and almost everybody was only too happy to do that, for the right price. We are the enemy, not Godzilla.

Orwell wrote about it in 1984, about where there were three classes, the highs, mediums and lows. The lows were Marx’s proletariat, and the Big Boys did not need to do sophisticated brainwashing; the lows just needed to show up to work every day, to perform their mundane tasks as cogs in the machine. The highs were the elite, but at around the Godzilla level. The mediums were the elites who were constantly trying to take the high’s place. That is what I saw over and over during my FE days. The people who ended up hurting us the worst were our allies, and I literally heard them say that Godzilla’s days were numbered, and it was their turn to run things. They never hurt Godzilla, but they sure put the daggers in our backs, in their idiocy, doing Godzilla’s work for him in their lust for wealth and power. Godzilla is just the master of a game that about 99% of humanity would play if they got the chance. I saw it happen too many times to deny it, and again, it was the primary lesson of my journey. And everybody who has ever played at the high levels for very long agrees with me, although they realize that it is impolite to admit it publicly. Well, I am stating the unpopular truth. Others have too:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/

I have said it in my interviews with Scott (this one in particular);

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#g/c/BACC03E294B890CD

It is difficult to tell Godzilla’s minions from the normal shark tank capitalist people, because they act the same. If any of those “mediums” were able to get in the driver’s seat, they would become the new Godzilla, and eagerly. As Luke says, the psychopaths are maybe two percent of the population. I have seen it as high as five percent. I believe that “psychopath” is just the Western term for “dark path,” and the dark pathers are simply those who have made self-service a science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

My writings on the subject are not rooted in theory, but my direct personal experiences. I am not too interested in theoretical musings on the subject of the hyper-elites. That is where conspiracism comes in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

It is a pitfall that swallows up most of those who begin to figure it out. Unfortunately, most of the people at Avalon and Nexus are in the conspiracism crowd, with an often New Agey flavor to it. It is time to stop thinking and acting like victims, and start acting like creators. That can only happen with love, but I understand, very keenly, that it is difficult to manifest that virtue in a world of fear and artificially-enforced scarcity. That is why the FE situation is called a conundrum:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

I am not saying that it was easy to survive what I did, but the problem is not the small fraction of 1% that “calls the shots,” but the 99+% that dances along to the tune. I am not saying that Godzilla is not racking up some hefty karma, but by far, the rest of us rack up the largest tally.

I wrote something at Avalon last night about the stage where humanity is on the Kübler-Ross scale of grieving.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=297609&viewfull=1#post297609

and wrote a little more about it, and the delusional Young Warriors like Marx, who thought that violent revolution was the answer:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=297833&viewfull=1#post297833

He eventually realized his folly, but his communist followers did not. Those who think that they can take on Godzilla are spiritual adolescents, and I have seen many come and go over the years. They do most of the damage, not Godzilla.

Luke’s and Krystic’s post on the “parasites” are what I see as the Western model, similar to Pasteur’s disease theory, which sees disease as one where outside agents infect the organism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pasteur

Pasteur had contemporaries who were not obsessed with wealth and fame like he was, and they discovered different dynamics, where disease really came from within:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

I have written at length about the victim-oriented theories of Pasteur and the political-economic victim-oriented theories:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#fail

and why their “treatments” are always such disasters. I remember reading in The Aquarian Gospel, after Jesus performed an exorcism, he said that indeed, the person was possessed, but that such entities could only possess people who provided a home, with their empty heads and empty hearts.

This is a conflict of paradigms, folks, and I write about it plenty:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming

As long as people see us all as victims of malevolent forces, they will come up with their victim-oriented “solutions” that usually amount to “getting the bad guys.” I am about the only participant at Avalon or Nexus that was indisputably stepped on by Godzilla. Pretty much everybody else is a spectator with zero experience in playing on the high road, with most in the thrall of conspiracism. Heck, almost nobody even uses their real name, which is not exactly heroic. And I am here to tell you that although being stepped on hurt, quite a bit, the big surprise was how my “allies” eagerly assisted Godzilla when it came to nut-cutting time.

The enemy is us, not Godzilla.

Gotta get to work on my Godzilla post.

Best,

Wade

[Butangeld]

Apologies if this has ever been posted anywhere on this forum before, but I was reading a favourite news-blog, whatreallyhappened.com, yesterday and found something most relevant to this thread. I have not being able time-wise to keep-up with this thread as much as I'd like, but it is never far from my mind.
Anyhow, Michael Rivero was writing about the idea floating around about replacing the debt-based currency system with the old gold-based one. He thinks both are as bad as each other, but then talks briefly and links to an article he wrote at some other time, suggesting currency be based on the Lectro (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/LECTRO/lectro.php), which is a kilowatt hour of electricity.

While he admits that such an idea is almost certainly impossible to instigate, it does I think quite quickly give good insight into what a world with free-energy might look like. This could be used to help people new to these ideas get a quick glimpse at what a world with FE would look like. It's an easier concept to understand.

Here are his 4 points giving the virtues of such a system:

1. While the US Government will have a motive to create electrical power in order to redeem the tokens (coins) and claim checks (Lectro certificates) issued for commerce, creation of electricity and hence money cannot be monopolized. There is no central issuing authority. Every home can have solar panels generating power to the grid, which is redeemable on those notes. IN a way we already do this when we pay for power for paper notes and for those able to sell power back to the utility, trade generated power for notes back. This is simply taking the idea to a national scale and making it the de-fact monetary system.

2. Because power is now the actual monetary system, this approach encourages efficient (and with the proper tax penalties for pollution) clean power generation as well as conservation at the consumer and factory levels.

3. Nobody can short the money supply because everyone can create their own power and monetize it through the treasury. Runaway inflation is impossible because all the coins and certificates in circulation are tied to the available power grid. As power is created, coins and certificates flow into circulation. As power is used, the coins and certificates are taken out of circulation.

4. In the long term, creation of an energy-based money system will smooth the transition from a human-labor to machine-labor society. At present, human labor precedes all capital, payable in a monetary system that pays primarily for human labor. In switching to a monetary system that pays for machine based power production, we evolve towards a society where machines become the primary creators of capital, and all humans shift towards the demand side of the economy. Instead of creating poverty, the push towards automation creates more wealth.

Hope someone finds this useful!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi butangeld:

That is a very appropriate post. Thank you. I do not have time to do your post justice, but let’s say that when money has intrinsic value, it then begins to become real. Energy is the ultimate intrinsic value, so yes, proposing an energy-based monetary system can get people thinking about the real economy, instead of the accounting games that pass for economics. Many “primitive” societies used energy as a medium of exchange. They called it food. :)

The Aztecs used corn ears and cocoa beans as currency, as have other societies that had similar fungible foodstuffs. Then the “advanced” Spanish came along, with their metal-based currency, and there was a century-long gold rush:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

Yes, whenever money was precious metal-based, it spurred gold rushes, which were essentially counterfeiting operations. And if you could work slaves to death mining it, then it made “sense.” When money became paper, or the non-physical money that only exists on ledgers the world over, then the issuers would eventually print their way into wrecking the currency. Money becomes obsolete in a world of abundance, but making money based on energy is definitely a step in the right direction, although, as you note, something like that is a long shot, but not as much of a long shot as making FE happen in today’s environment.

This is a subject that I would like to address more later. The movement away from labor to machine-based wealth began hundreds of years ago as the West industrialized. An energy-based money game can help people see our reality differently. The heavy lift is in the real economy, which runs on energy, but energy-based money is an intriguing idea, for sure.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Ilie is taking the ball and running with it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

I just made a post on his thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=298747&viewfull=1#post298747

and I may not have time to do another one today. Also, next week I will be pretty quiet, because I will not have Internet connectivity in a meadow! :)

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

This reply is to this post on Ilie’s recent thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=299348&viewfull=1#post299348


Hi Oliver:

We can debate what place fear of FE should have, but I am writing about what place fear does have. Virtually every Level from 1 to 11, and even a lot of Level 0, is primarily fear-based,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

and that includes about everybody who has ever heard of FE. I have only met a few true Level 12s in my lifetime. I hope that nobody is dragged kicking and screaming into the FE epoch. I hope that people choose it because it is so obviously the place to be, but it is going to start with only a relative few people, because almost nobody can even imagine FE without all their fears overwhelming them. I have seen that thousands of times.

The fear takes many guises, and almost all of it is about some fantasy about how the world works, not about how it really works. So, if people put their fears on the table, they can get to know them, even make friends with them, and begin to move through them. Most that are stuck in their fear about FE are not going to successfully move through it until an FE device is delivered to their home and they can use it without blowing the planet up, or see that all of their other fears about it were just that: fears. But some will move through it before they use an FE machine.

I honor the free will of the fearful, but I am also not going to pander to their fears or spend too much time on them. Those stuck in Levels 1 to 3, I have no time for. Those in Level 5 might be able to overcome their fears and move out of there, but I will also not spend much time with them. Those in Levels 6 to 11 have some potential of helping us get over the hump, but I am probably looking for Level 10s more than anything else. I have played the Level 10 game. Nobody has ever played it at a higher level than Dennis has, and I saw the pitfalls of that approach. I am here to help persuade the Level 10s that if we can combine our awareness and nothing else, it might be enough to puncture the paradigm, or at least provide the catalyst.

That thread that Ilie began is intended for those who can simply imagine abundance, and see what could be. That alone has almost never happened, and you can already see people bringing their fears to the thread, trying to drag the thread in all sorts of directions that Ilie did not intend, and so on.

Yes, I am not waiting for the Luddites to get it. I am not looking for stragglers, to cajole them onto the train. I am trying to get the train built and the tracks laid, but until people become familiar with the intended destination, the exercise can be one of futility. In my interviews with Scott, I mentioned the exercise that Ilie has initiated, which is people letting their imagination work on this issue, and see where it leads them. I have been doing that for nearly forty years on the energy issue, and it was very fruitful work. But, there is nothing like chasing your dream. If I had not done that, I doubt that I would have much worth saying. But, having the vision, or at least some of it, before you run off after it, is vital. But the learning happens in the chasing.

Yes, what you are stating, about the social organization for raising children changing, is indeed part of what probably is ahead. Parenting will be far more communal, and therefore enlightened, not subject to the possible failings of two parents, and they will not be as burdened as parents are today. In that world that Roads glimpsed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I doubt that there were any frustrated parents, and probably none of them saw “their” children as “my” children. They were “our” children, and they were all treated as equals on the path. Those “children” were more grown up by age six than pretty much anybody on the planet today is.

I encourage you to keep thinking about what can be, and leave the stragglers to their straggling ways for now. We really can’t reach them, not with this stuff, right now, and it is hazardous to try.

Best,

Wade

[Seikou-Kishi]

It's true that people seem to become overwhelmed by their fears when they think of something so completely paradigm-changing as free energy, but people can only operate on fear for so long until the anxiety becomes too intense and they either have to yield or do something drastic to remove their anxiety. I know a little of what I'm talking about when I say this and anxiety, which is essentially what this is, can cause people to be avoidant. If they are anxious of free energy, they will do their best to avoid it and to withhold it from others, but like any child anxious over, say, swimming lessons for fear of drowning, sometimes the parent just has to push them in because the only way to overcome anxiety and fear is to face them head on; avoidance only feeds anxiety.

Whether a person scoffs at free energy or violently tries to suppress it, the root of all those reactions is 1) fear/anxiety at the thought of free energy and 2) avoidance of that fear/anxiety. Anybody who scoffs at the thought of free energy is like the child who scoffs at the thought of the bogeyman; "he can't possibly exist, because if he did I wouldn't know how I'd face up to that".

It's that old thing, "feel the fear but do it anyway". The good thing about feeling anxious about even the littlest of things is that when something huge like free energy comes along, one's already very well practised in putting fear in its place. Of course, it's as you say that there's a huge gulf between the place fear should have and the place it does have, but also between the way people should face up to that fear and how they seek to avoid it.

It's not just the fear of free energy, either, it's the removal of the comfort that people find, rightly or wrongly, in the status quo. People know all the pitfalls of the status quo, but even a map of paradise has "here be monsters" and all other sinister shadows of the unknown. It is, essentially, what is meant by the phrase "better the devil you know"; the great majority would rather suffer the familiar than enjoy the different. The preference for the status quo means people would far rather face a familiar famine than a foreign feast — the sheer illogic of such a position doesn't register with them because for most people logic is something their baser instincts killed long ago.

You make a good point about honouring the free will of the fearful, because it would make hypocrites of us to clamour for our own free will only to override the free will of others in doing so, but it is also the case that the free will of those who would 'risk' free energy are continually being overridden by the fearful — you will know that far better than most. The only course of action seems to be that we convince people of the utility of free energy, which is a mammoth task indeed and, as you say, futile.

Another problem is that even with some proponents of free energy, there seems to be a mindset very much still stuck in scarcity mode of "If I get my hands on free energy, I'll be able to make all this money". I think that's pretty much a lesser problem, though, because (as I said on Ilie's thread) once people actually have free energy and aren't left with fevered fantasies (and delusions) about it, I'm confident egalitarianism and generosity, etc., would be inescapable developments.

Yes that second world which Roads experienced is something I hope the world will grow into, and I was greatly saddened by his mentor's statement that a few of us will go to that paradise, while a few will drift over to that dystopia, but that most people will end up on a world just like this except, I assume, 300 years 'ahead' of this one technologically. I was more saddened by the likelihood of the idea than by the idea itself. It seems only sheer stupidity and fear are keeping everybody from amazing worlds like Roads' second visit, and it's exasperating to think that so many of the world's people are going to end up with more of the same. More of the same seems almost worse than the dystopian first visit... and it's like, is nothing we're all doing here making any difference? The 'bad' are only bad because they're scared of letting go. It all comes back to fear.

[Wade Frazier]

That was a brilliant post, Oliver. I don’t see too many like that. A common theme that I have seen for nearly my entire time reading mystical literature since my mystical awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

is that in these times, there is literally a “battle for souls” happening. For those of the light and the dark, this is Show Time. Earth is going to heal, with or without humanity’s help. Those who help will get to stay, and what a world awaits the other side of the cleansing. Those who won’t help, or are intentionally making things worse, will end up on a playground that is designed for those who just have to make a mess and refuse to clean it up. It will not be a pretty place. We all reap what we sow. No exceptions.

At this time, I think that Roads’s mentor is likely right in that most will not choose the light, and will keep muddling along, in their fearful, egocentric existences, choosing the devil that they know, worshipping comfort and choosing cheap lies over the truth, and choosing fear over love, believe it or not. But, those of the light want as many to move on as possible, while those of the dark want to hold as many back as possible, so that they can keep exploiting them.

When I was with Dennis, when we were in the heat of the battle, there was a tendency to say, “Here it comes humanity, whether you are ready for it or not, open up!” This was how Dennis felt often enough, and I understand how he came to feel that way, but this lamb always had a bit of a problem with that attitude. It is pretty easy to get swept up in zeal when you are involved with something that huge. As my fellow travelers grew older, we became less gung ho, and it was not just because we got old and soft, but because we gained new realizations regarding the nature of personal responsibility. I knew since my Seth days that the ends never justify the means:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

but it can be a great temptation to think that everybody should live in Heaven on Earth, and that a little extra nudge, pushing them off the cliff to force them to fly, is OK. This was an area that became one of the greatest differences in Dennis’s and my approach. He has since mellowed himself, but that is relative. :) Playing the sales game always involves a little showmanship, a little sleight of hand to get past a person’s ego, to get them to try something new, something that will greatly benefit them. I decided long ago that this stuff was not only way too important that nobody should be deceived in the slightest about what they were getting into, but I also found out that unless you had some idea of the stage you were stepping onto, you should not go there. This is not a path for the half-awake to stumble down. FE is the biggest of the big. The advent of FE would dwarf all of humanity’s previous epochal transitions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

and the Big Boys know it well, which is why they watch that pot so closely:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

so it never boils. The tools that will get us to Heaven on Earth are truth, love and good, honest work.

It can be very difficult to accept that most people’s souls do not want to live in Heaven on Earth right now. They all have their reasons, but most seem to want to play the “kill-or-be-killed” game, like the “I win, you lose” paradigm, and so on. If teachings like Michael’s are to be believed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

most people do not want to have Heaven on Earth at this time, because their souls are in a different stage of development, and they need those hard lessons for their soul’s growth (and yes, what kind of Creator made up a game like that?). It would be highly presumptuous and arrogant for me to tell them that they can’t keep playing the “I win, you lose” game, watching NASCAR and game shows, and living their lives of quiet desperation. However, I am also an agent with my own free will, and I know that Heaven on Earth is around the corner for those who want to live in it, and I want to live there. If not in this lifetime, then in another one soon. If nothing else, I hope that my efforts in this lifetime at least qualify me to be a candidate for it.

A very common mystical theme is that with every waking moment we are choosing which reality that our lives head toward. I don’t live in the same world that I lived in yesterday, much less twenty years ago, and my awareness seamlessly chooses that probability that my waking reality experiences, which conforms itself to my consciousness, most of which my conscious mind is not aware of.

It literally may be the case that a probable Wade of forty years ago took the path of riches and retired by age forty, and has still never heard of FE and what it can make possible. While he sips his beer in his alternate reality, in his mansion, he knows that something is amiss, but he cannot quite put his finger on it.

A probable Wade of fifteen years ago did not stop drinking and had a mid-life crisis so monstrous that he already has liver disease and will die soon, and is an angry and bitter man. That man would have not finished his “whimsical” web site, and would have never encountered somebody like Ilie. He still might incarnate in that heavenly world that Roads visited, but in this lifetime he became a casualty of the war against the spirit that is happening and is not yet finished on this planet. The probable Wade that never woke up in this lifetime may incarnate in that “middle of the road” world that Roads’s mentor mentioned. And if so, that is his path and I want to help him if I can, but I also know that it is ultimately his decision. I hope that the life I am living seeps through in his dreams somehow, and he thinks about a better world sometime, and what that might look like.

When I became Dennis’s partner in 1987, I named my investment group “Better World Investors,” and Dennis has named his companies and efforts “Better World” ever since. So, this idealism has been with me for a long time. That “low road” Wade had to take it when very young, but there have also been many opportunities to fall off the rails, and there may indeed be a probable Wade or two that took a much higher road, and they already live on a healed planet, and maybe they “infect” my dreams once in a while, leading me onward.

I know this: the light side can only work with love and truth. If it stops doing that, it is no longer the light side. The dark side works with fear and deception, gets off on violence, and the best of them are very good at what they do, believe me. When they take their masks off for you:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#darkness

it is unforgettable. When Mr. Deputy took his off for me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

it was the radicalizing moment of my life. I should probably thank him when I see him again, but he may be in Max’s neighborhood:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

when I see him next. I wonder if that is going to be my fate, to help Mr. Deputy leave his Hell. Oh well, this is related to my upcoming Godzilla post, so is appropriate. Thanks again for your perceptive post.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I need to make a few Godzilla posts. That recent event with that scientist on Scott’s show:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=290867&viewfull=1#post290867

came a lot closer to me than is evident. Also, right after that happened, somebody came to give me an otherworldly warning they said they received from Brian, for me to be careful, who did not know about that recent incident. That source has given me similar warnings in the past that were accurate, so I am paying attention.

These posts may seem paradoxical, because I am going to strongly encourage people to stop being so Godzilla-centric on the FE issue. Godzilla is a symptom, not a cause, and focusing on Godzilla as the problem is partly why all efforts so far have fallen off the rails. Denying Godzilla’s existence is also part of the problem, as is thinking that we can sneak past him, defeat him with guerilla warfare, and other approaches that all have the victim perspective in common. I am trying to mount a creator-oriented attempt, not a victim-oriented attempt. The enemy is us, not Godzilla. If we can stop being our own worst enemies, making FE happen would be easy.

I have been saying all along that Godzilla is watching, and that just comes from experience in situations where we thought that Godzilla was watching or being mischievous, and it turned out that he was. Sometimes, it can be like you are in shark-infested waters, and you say to yourself, “If I go swimming, I am probably going to be eaten.” And you might feel something bump against the boat before a hole gets eaten in the hull. I have seen many posts here that show that the posters have no experience with Godzilla and think that they are clever or nimble enough to avoid him while playing around on his turf. I have seen incredible naïveté on my journey, where people supposedly a lot worldlier and smarter than I was waltzed right into Godzilla’s lair, thinking that they were walking into a friend’s home to get their reward. Even as I warned them in no uncertain terms, they scoffed at me as they danced in. It was incredible to witness, and I turned away when they disappeared into Godzilla’s lair. It also reflected their lack of integrity, because they were usually betraying somebody as they approached Godzilla. Some did not live to tell about it, but some fools eventually staggered out, often missing a limb. There is nothing like being there, but posts like this will be educational for those who plan to be a part of what I am trying to mount. Again, I am trying to do something where Godzilla only watches, but I could be wrong. If he starts sending emissaries to begin sowing their seeds, I feel a responsibility to those witnessing and participating in these exchanges. People can’t say that they were not warned. This is no time for paranoia, denial, naïveté, or Young Warrior delusions, but an understanding of how the land lies.

I wrote earlier of my mother’s “my son the crook” scrapbook tour.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=249110&viewfull=1#post249110

With her dementia, she will not suffer for being identified as one of my attackers during my Ventura days, and as her home has been getting downsized, a relative sent me an image from my mother’s “treasure trove,” and the image is below, with one paragraph of it enlarged, because I am going to discuss that paragraph as an example of how the media and the power-and-control system operate. I could write something like the below for almost every paragraph in that article.

That article was published in the local newspaper the day after the raid:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid

During the raid, as several of us were standing around in front of our building, as the sheriff’s deputies were inside illegally ransacking our building, up walked the newspaper reporter who wrote that article. We were in a lively conversation, and some of us had already witnessed the deputies photographing the blueprints in Mr. Researcher’s office:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

That was the big crime of the day, but the reporter quickly fled when she heard what we were talking about. I addressed her, and she quickly turned her head down and walked away. Even though I was about to lose a great deal of innocence in the next year, it was obvious to me that the paper was not going to write a flattering article the next day, or even repeat our allegations that the sheriff’s deputies had already been witnessed performing espionage.

The day that I met Dennis, he spoke that evening at the Seattle Center, in front of hundreds of people with several camera crews recording it.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

The local media did not report the event, but a Canadian TV show aired it, and it was the only time that I ever saw or heard of a positive TV account of Dennis’s efforts. A couple of weeks later, a local TV station aired an “investigation” of Dennis which was a hack piece, so I began to see how the media really worked. While we had some positive local coverage in Boston, the big media shut us out, while the big players in the New England electric market had secret meetings to decide what to do about us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

So, I called my mother the night of the raid and told her to keep her head low at work and to not try to defend me to her employer, that local paper. As I have stated before, I did not have to worry. She attacked me on that phone call, and I did not talk to her for several years after that, after she pointedly ignored me a month later when we accidentally met at a relative’s house. When I heard years later that she had made a scrapbook of all the lying articles and took it on tour to my friends and family, I was not surprised. Our relationship was never the same.

The section that I reproduced in the attached image reads:


“Yet authorities in Washington, Massachusetts and now Ventura County have become suspicious of Allen’s business practices.

“Anyone can buy a heat pump for a lot less,” said XXX, assistant attorney general for the state of Washington. Lee was forced out of business in Washington in 1986 after the Attorney General’s Office there received a raft of complaints against his company, Conserve Financial Services.

“Lee’s business practices are currently under investigation in Boston, Massachusetts, which he left in late 1987, said YYY of the Boston Secretary of State’s office.”


When I was recently sent that article, I could not stomach reading the entire thing, so I just picked out a randomly selected section. As I recall, there was not an accurate paragraph in the entire article, so I knew that just randomly selecting a piece of it would get me a sample that I could deconstruct, to show how the media operates. When I had my first interview with Scott and Tom, and Tom openly wondered how the media would let the legal system get away with jailing Dennis because he did not file a form, I said that they are a part of the power-and-control system, and they can make it up as they go (listen to this clip):

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#p/c/BACC03E294B890CD/4/ZI39RzWxCOQ

Here is the deconstruction of that section, to give you a hint of what I could write about all of it.

The “Allen” in that first sentence was one of our salesmen whom we hired a few months earlier in Ventura. He may have bought our materials himself, so you could say that he was one of our customers, but what we were doing in Ventura was nothing like what we did in Seattle or Boston. We were selling educational materials. In Seattle, Dennis was building, selling and installing equipment, and in Boston we were trying to make FE noise by getting salesmen, dealers and others involved. There was some connection between the Boston and Ventura efforts, as we put on some of those “Greatest Energy Shows on Earth” events in LA, but the business that took off in Ventura had little relationship to the Boston effort, and none at all with the Seattle effort. Since Allen was not with us in Boston or Seattle, nobody in Seattle or Boston had any awareness or interest in Allen’s “business practices.” He was our Ventura employee, along with his wife.

That second paragraph is the rich one, and that will take some time to explain.

“Anyone can buy a heat pump for a lot less,” is like saying that anybody can buy a bicycle for a lot less than a car. Dennis’s heat pump outperformed the crappy air-to-air heat pump by so much that you really can’t compare them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

The woman making that statement is called “Ms. Pinch Hitter” in my writings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#pinch

and her story takes some telling. Back when Dennis was just getting going in Seattle, his lead generation technique is the only thing that he did in Seattle that anybody could accuse him of being “underhanded” with. His call room cold-called homeowners in Seattle to take a survey. They called themselves the Seattle Utility Network (SUN – Dennis was fond of making up corny acronyms for his businesses), and they asked people about their concern regarding high energy bills. When people said that they were, they were asked if they would be interested in a no-risk method of dramatically reducing their energy bills. If they said that they were (who would say that they were not?), the caller asked if a representative could visit their home with a video presentation. At that moment, the homeowner knew that it was a sales presentation that they were about to hear, so Dennis’s “ruse” was about as benign as it gets (the electric companies accused SUN of pretending that it was affiliated with the electric companies, thereby deceiving its customers). As I recall, after watching the tape (the rep would bring a portable CVR and TV to play the clip, which featured Dennis), if the homeowner was interested, the rep would set up a visit from a salesman.

Dennis’s pitch with his Systems for Savings program was simply unstoppable.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

His salesmen had something like an 80% closing rate, and few of them had really done sales work before. That kind of closing ratio was unheard of, but when Dennis removed all of the customer’s risk, they all went for it.

Dennis was finally going to make some hay before the tax credit expired at the end of 1985. He quickly sold a thousand systems, and finally found somebody who understood the potential: Mr. Financier:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#finance

If he could get thousands of systems installed before the year was out, Dennis was finally going to realize his dream of creating an industry around his heat pump. At that time, Dennis naively believed the full page ads that the electric companies were publishing about conservation. The conservation programs of the electric companies were very high profile at the time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#weather

and Dennis reckoned that they would be ecstatic if he could bring 85% electricity savings for heating. He reckoned incorrectly. He knew that somebody was working behind the scenes to destroy his effort in Seattle, but he did not know who it was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle1

When Mr. Financier came on board, the assailant unmasked himself. After nearly a year of trying to attract the electric companies’ attention for his energy conservation equipment, he finally heard from them, when they attacked him in the press:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#scam

Then Dennis knew who had been out to get him. When he began hearing rumors that the Attorney General’s office was investigating him (as the electric companies publicly called for), he called them, asking them what they wanted to know. They told the first of many lies that day, saying that they did not know who Dennis was. Dennis still tried to get the electric companies to work with him, and that was about the same time that Bill the BPA Hit Man showed up:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

Bill was definitely a paid provocateur who was on the BPA’s payroll, although his subsequent activities provided evidence that he was also a Godzilla asset:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#global

But if he was, I think that he was more on loan, or picked up by Godzilla after his Seattle performance, but his history before Seattle gave evidence that like Lee Harvey Oswald,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#tower

his grooming to be what he became started early. In his pre- and post-Seattle days, as well as what he did in Seattle, his signature move has been to use the legal system as a weapon, with phony lawsuits and other stratagems. I can’t help but think that it was part of his training.

So, just as the electric companies attacked through the media and Bill the Hit Man appeared, some “college students” appeared at Dennis’s company, acting like some idealistic kids wanting to find out about energy conservation. They attended a meeting that Dennis held for the electric companies, where the only other attendees were Bill and an electric company representative who attended because Mr. Engineer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carpet

knew him. Mr. Engineer was once the plant superintendent of Boeing’s 747 facility – the world’s largest building – so he knew everybody (Frank Lloyd Wright was one of his buddies).

When the Attorney General’s office finally stopped lying about their “investigation” of Dennis’s company, those “students” took off their masks: they were really investigators for the Attorney General’s office. They acted so immaturely that Dennis finally had to complain about their behavior:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#meeting

That was when Ms. Deputy Attorney General got involved. She led the investigation from that time forward, and her confrontations with Dennis ended her career. She worked hand-in-hand with the BPA Hit Man:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#hit

and when caught with documents that Bill had stolen from Dennis’s company and Dennis threatened an FBI probe, she hastily returned them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#stolen

Dennis’s investigators over the years had a knack of accepting documents stolen from Dennis, encouraging others to steal them for them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#promotion

or stealing them directly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#espionage

The more “benign” crime committed by the Ventura County officials was encouraging document theft. When Mr. Big Time Attorney found that out, he began rubbing his hands together, as the year before he fried a bunch of IRS agents in the U.S. Supreme Court for committing that exact crime:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#supreme

While he whipped the IRS in the U.S. Supreme Court, he was threatened with disbarment in the California federal courts for suing the Ventura County officials for the very same crime:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#disbar

Defending Dennis became the education of his career. Interested readers really need to read my account of Dennis’s Seattle days to get an idea of the evil that Ms. Deputy Attorney General was involved with:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

A couple of weeks after her final confrontation with Dennis, when he made her sit on the hot seat and answer questions from her victims, and after a former boyfriend called the proud “crime fighter” for her gangster activities against Dennis’s company, and told her about all of the innocent lives that she wrecked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hatchet

she quit and then taught law school in Seattle, where she is now an emeritus faculty, after more than twenty years of training lawyers. She later admitted to Dennis that her conscience finally woke up. When she quit, she handed Dennis’s case to Ms. Pinch Hitter. She is the person quoted in that article about people being better off buying a heat pump. A primary reason why I am blanking out her name in the attached file is that she is still around, working for the state as a “crime fighter,” and teaches law school at the same place where Ms. Deputy Attorney General works. They are comrades in arms, “protecting” the public and teaching our best and brightest.

As unprofessionally and criminally as Ms. Deputy Attorney General acted, she was a paragon of virtue compared to Ms. Pinch Hitter. When Dennis hastily left Washington after his company was stolen, Ms. Pinch Hitter dogged his every step, calling the local authorities to be on the lookout for the criminal of the century in their backyard. In Boston, an “investigator” who got a call from Ms. Pinch Hitter swaggered into Dennis’s office, making open threats about how he would put Dennis behind bars. In the wake of the Ventura nightmare, one of the more telling documents of Dennis’s journey surfaced. That Boston investigator admitted in a letter that he was attempting to prosecute Dennis, but could never find a violation of the law:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#pinch

Given enough time, I am sure that he would have found something, like they did in Ventura. His efforts were paralleled by the Massachusetts Secretary of State’s office, which began playing the same game that the Attorney General’s office did in Washington, but we left the state before they could strike.

During my days with Dennis, it was pretty much a constant that the representatives of the legal system, whether they were at the state or federal level in Washington, the county or state level in Massachusetts, or the county or federal level in California, would be expected to act unprofessionally at the very minimum, and criminal behavior was quite common. I quickly lost all respect for the legal system in the USA, but I still hear extremely naïve talk, all the time, about how the USA has the world’s best legal system. What I saw was that the legal/media combination is devastating, and amounts to: “I will lie, and you will broadcast it,” and they stampede the herd wherever they want it to go.

But of all the statements made by legal system members against Dennis that I saw, the quotes that Ms. Pinch Hitter made were by far the most unprofessional. Pretty much everything that I saw her say was a lie. If anybody contacted her about Dennis, she would Federal Express an “investigative” package on Dennis to them, which was filled with lies.

I never had the pleasure, but others around me did, of talking with her on the phone. She quickly descended into hysterical shrieks when the subject of Dennis came up. It is possible that she believed what she was saying, but I doubt it. That quote in that attached image was one of her more benign comments.

That newspaper article did not directly quote her, but that statement,

“Lee was forced out of business in Washington in 1986 after the Attorney General’s Office there received a raft of complaints against his company, Conserve Financial Services”

is in the Big Lie category. There were never any complaints from the public, and especially from Dennis’s customers (it was the same in Ventura – the public never complained). The only complaints came from the electric companies. The way that Ms. Deputy Attorney General got Dennis to settle her lawsuit can provide some insight into how they play the game. When Dennis finally realized that the electric companies were behind the assaults that his company was receiving, he made another tape for his salesmen to play.

His Systems for Savings plan was simply unstoppable, at least honestly. How could you attack a program where the customers risked none of their money? In the tape that Dennis made, he said something like, “Because you only pay what the system is proven to save, you might say that your energy supplier is paying for this energy conservation equipment.”

In the subsequent media blitz that followed the electric company attacks on Dennis’s company (and it was not Conserve Financial Services that was attacked in Seattle, so that article could not even get the name of the company right – such small details may seem minor, but such little errors were in virtually every sentence, interspersed with the Big Lies, making the effort laughable if its intention was not evil), a man who watched that pitch tape in his home, who did not buy a system, wrote to the Attorney General’s office. He said that after watching that tape, he had the impression that Dennis said that the electric companies were going to write him a check every month if he bought Dennis’s system. I suppose that was just an indication of the customer’s level of intelligence, but Ms. Deputy Attorney General used that letter to force Dennis to settle the lawsuit, after she took his customers hostage. Her logic was this: “Because one person in the state misunderstood one thing that you said, I nailed you, dead to rights.”

As anybody with an IQ over seventy who watched Dennis’s clip should have known, the electric companies were not going to write a check to the customer if they bought Dennis’s heat pump. But one person in the state misunderstood what Dennis said. According to the consumer protection laws that Ms. Deputy Attorney General was using against Dennis’s company, the fact that Dennis did not intend to deceive anybody was irrelevant. That one person in the state misunderstood one thing that Dennis said was all that she needed to hang his company out to dry. And that literally was what she hung her entire case on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#case

So, the Washington prosecution was fraudulent from the beginning, as they did the electric companies’ bidding to wipe out their competition. But that bogus lawsuit and settlement was not even good enough for the media; some of the more disreputable ones eventually inflated the charges into “fraud,” (which meant that Dennis was intentionally deceiving people) which anybody familiar with the case knew to be a lie, but people like Mr. Skeptic made his skeptical career out of knowingly repeating those lies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

I need to get a bunch of work done today, and will be playing in the mountains next week and will likely not be making any posts for several days (but might make a short post or two before I leave), but I wanted to give readers a little taste of how the game is played. In almost everything that I referred to above, Godzilla himself had little or nothing to do with it. Those were the lower-level predators at play. Bill the BPA Hit Man definitely worked for Godzilla eventually, and may have from the beginning of his “alternative energy” career, but I am not sure. When the deputies stole all of our technical information in the raid:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#espionage

it was definitely to give somebody an inside peek into what we were doing. I believe that it was done for Godzilla, but I could be wrong. The billion dollar offer that Dennis received a few months later was definitely delivered from Godzilla, as one of his “benign” tactics:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and I am sure that the $10 million offer in Boston also came from Godzilla:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

But, for all of Godzilla’s evil deeds, what was most dismaying was how almost everybody in the establishment eagerly did his bidding, from corrupt cops, prosecutors and judges, to newspaper reporters who were stenographers to those gangsters. Then my mother eagerly believed the lies, never even asked her son for his side of the story, and eventually took those newspaper articles (that attached article was the first of many, with the most amazing being an LA Times “investigative” report that was about two or three entire newspaper pages, that was a string of lies from one end to the other, and prominently quoted the glib Ms. Pinch Hitter, whom I never saw utter one accurate sentence about Dennis) on tour to my friends and family, telling the story of her son the crook.

If anybody thinks that they are going to play the FE game at any meaningful level, they need to begin to understand how the system really works, and this post will be the first of several Godzilla posts, to help educate such people. Again, your friends and allies will hurt you more than Godzilla will, as I discovered the hard way, over and over. Many times, I initially refused to believe what my friends and family were doing, to eventually have them demonstrate to my face what they were all about. That was the big surprise of my journey, not that Godzilla exists and is vigilant.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

I've just finished watching a movie called Transcendent Man (http://transcendentman.com/) about the life and future predictions of Ray Kurzweil.

The main idea in the movie is that humanity is evolving and changing (technological wise) by an exponential curve. I agree with this idea, and I recall a table on Wade's site about the history of our planet and the changes he presented there were also following and exponential curve.

Following this theory it stands to reason that at a certain point in time the changes will happen so fast and will be so dramatic that it will be impossible for humans to keep up. He called this "The Singularity". The idea is not very different from what Terence McKenna was talking about in this interview (http://www.realitysandwich.com/node/93685).

While the practical, philosophical and spiritual implications of such an event are indeed great and hard to imagine I'd like to focus here on the future scenario that Ray Kurzweil is convinced will happen.

He's main focus is on the exponential development of intelligence that will create the first conscious AI by 2029, and that humans will become bio-electro-mechanical hybrids if they want to be able to keep up with the changes that would happen so fast by that time.

He mentioned energy only once in the entire movie. And he said that the future energy source will be Solar Panel energy, with a nano built solar cell of very high efficiency. And that was it.

So I am looking at this person, that was obviously very intelligent, had many patents, he was researching enormous amounts of data, and the best solution he could foresee for the "energy issue" was Solar Panels. It was amazing to see trough out the movie how far we have gone in terms of IT technology, even in the white science world, but when it comes to energy... we are still burning stuff to boil water and the solution for the future that our brightest inventors can see is Solar Panel (that will probably be used to yet again to boil water).

So Wade is right to say that Godzilla's victory was total! You can invent virtually anything as long as you don't touch the energy issue. And some of our brightest inventors cannot even think in the direction on free energy... they don't even realize what a game changer that would be for man kind... they keep beating around the bush... this can be very depressing at times.

[eaglespirit]

Thanks Ilie....Good Thoughts and Sharing!

I personally feel that Mother Earth's and Our surrounding Higher Energy is changing and riding the 'bell curve' and we are on the verge, right now, of things showing themselves, that are getting stronger and clearer, that we were not able to perceive or feel in the past. This awakening transition is going to show Us glimpses of 'free energy' that were not there to our senses before now.
Imho, we are in this acceleration jump and it is to show itself in some very interesting and exciting ways.
Those of us that are a bit more 'tuned in'
will experience it first...but many more people will be tuning in daily and will also connect to this newness.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

Yes, it is amazing to watch “visionary” stuff like that. He is stuck in the “laws of physics” trap of scientism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

Nearly all scientists from the “White Science” world are stuck there. I have seen it many times, and Brian O saw it in spades. At least we have shows like Star Trek that point beyond that blind spot a little. The people in the “Black Science” world must laugh their asses off when they see that kind of “visionary” stuff. There is an entire wing of “visionary” science that sits in that tiny cage. Not long ago, Brian hosted a prominent Venus Project “visionary” in his home, and when Brian tried to talk about FE, the “visionary” blew a gasket, nearly foaming at the mouth in his denial of the possibility of FE. People like Amory Lovins literally see FE as the worst thing that could ever happen to humanity, so FE is the enemy in those circles.

And then you have doom-and-gloomers like Heinberg, whom the rad left and “progressives” could not get enough of several years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

Understanding the scientism trap is important for anybody in the FE field. Brian kept trying to make FE scientifically respectable, while I came from the activist side of the house that said, “I do not care what the theories of White Science are, this stuff exists”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

Here is a little addendum to my previous post, and this one is about the courts and their corruption. This will be about my last post for several days. My previous post was about how the legal system and the media work in unison to derail FE projects like Dennis’s; I wrote about corrupt cops and prosecutors, but not yet about the judges (or “justices,” as we quaintly call them in the USA :) ).

I vividly remember Dennis’s naïve belief in the American legal system before Ventura, where he had seen corrupt cops and lawyers before, but he thought that once you got in front of the judge, justice could happen. He was rudely disabused of that notion during our days together. I wish I had a dollar for every time that I heard one of Dennis’s lawyers say, “He can’t do that!” as the judge said with a grin, “Well, I just did, and what are you going to do about it?”

I think that Dennis first got a hint of what was coming when Bill the BPA Hit Man filed that phony bankruptcy lawsuit in Seattle.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#bk

The lawsuit was obviously fraudulent, but the judge illegally accepted the petition, and here I will need to get into some technicalities, so people can see how this stuff works. The bankruptcy law that Bill used was only for bona fide creditors with undisputed claims. It was for a company that could no longer pay its bills, and if five bona fide creditors (owed more than $5K each) jointly filed a lawsuit, they could force a company into the bankruptcy courts. This happens in the USA with some regularity, and is called an involuntary bankruptcy, where the creditors force the company into bankruptcy.

Bill’s lawsuit was nothing of the sort. He found four employee dupes to file with him, and they all made up their creditor “claims” out of the thin air. The judge should have never accepted their petition. But he did, and the local PTB also obviously got to Dennis’s attorney, who suddenly could not utter a rational word in the courtroom. In Ventura, Dennis got to see that one, too, where they got to his lawyer, who suddenly was unable to make a coherent argument, and was suddenly seeing things the prosecution’s way every time. After the Seattle company was destroyed and Dennis was taken out of the picture, the judge suddenly saw the light. He not only threw out the petition, but he also recommended countersuing the petitioners.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#_edn24

Of course, the people left holding the bag were Bill’s dupes. Once Dennis was removed from the scene, Bill had a “falling out” with his dupes, as they waged the phony lawsuit on their own. The dark side can be very good at what it does, and there are times when its brilliance impresses me. Bill worked his evil, which resulted in, among other things, a woman’s death:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

and when his mission was accomplished he slinked away, with his idiotic dupes left holding the bag. That took some talent. But, if the judge was not in on it, that particular angle could not have worked. Bill had a lot of help.

In Ventura, Dennis got to find out how the judges worked, in spades. I got to see Kangaroo Court in action:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail

It was my first experience in a courtroom, and it was a doozy. I came to my radicalizing moment in the courtroom,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

so I probably have to thank all of those corrupt people and their evil ways for helping me wake up.

My site covers the legal machinations that were used to force Dennis into a plea bargain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bargain

The judge made it clear that Dennis did not file that form and pay $50, and he was definitely guilty of that “crime,” and if Dennis demanded a trial, the judge would see that he was found guilty (the judge ruled on matters of law, the jury on matters of fact, and Dennis long ago admitted that he did not file the form, so the judge had him dead to rights on the “crime”) and was given the maximum possible prison sentence. And that came from the “fair” judge. :)

So, Dennis pled guilty to not filing the form and ended up in prison with murderers, even though the judge and prosecution both admitted in open court that Dennis did not commit a “crime” in the popular understanding of that word:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#judge

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#plea

What they admitted they “got” Dennis on was a parking ticket, but it was also a parking ticket given for parking where a hundred thousand other cars were parked, there was nothing that marked the parking lot as a no-parking zone, and Dennis was the only person given a ticket. And somehow, that parking ticket merited prison, not a five-dollar-fine. If that was the end of it, it would be bad enough, but the higher courts, to this day, have intentionally misrepresented the conviction, and they have gone on the record with their artful deceptions. I saw it with the FTC’s charges against Dennis a couple of years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

but I also saw it with the California courts, as they denied Dennis’s appeal. Here it is:

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/959/240/220419/

One thing that people should know is that if you are prosecuted in the USA, you lose even if you “win.” Even the most frivolous lawsuit or prosecution destroys lives. Royal Rife never recovered from the AMA-sponsored lawsuit that was intended to stop his company in its tracks:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

The system also is rigged to favor the prosecution. All that talk about “innocent until proven guilty” is a nice idea, but in practice it does not work that way. When the DA’s investigator said that he did not care if Dennis was innocent or not:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

and that he would do however much lying that he needed in order to secure a conviction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#lie

he was merely voicing aloud what virtually all prosecutors privately think, but it is impolite to publicly admit it. But securing Dennis’s “conviction” was not enough for the legal system. The other courts have had to artfully misrepresent what Dennis was convicted for, which you can see with the FTC’s charges and that federal court appeal ruling. It bears quoting them directly. The appeals court wrote:

“On June 22, 1988, Lee was arrested and charged with violating sections of California Civil Code 1812.201 through 1812.221, the Seller's Assisted Marketing Plan Act (SAMP). He was also charged with several counts of common law fraud, all charges stemming from his marketing of a heat pump which was purported to generate electricity. On May 31, 1990, Lee pled guilty to eight of the charged felony counts in the Superior Court of Ventura County, California.”

The first sentence presented the charges that he was convicted for. They don’t say it in their legalese, but the “crime” was not filing the form and paying $50. The second sentence outlines the charges that were thrown on top of the civil law charges, as life in prison for failing to file a form would be a stretch, even for Ventura County. They had to convict Dennis for fraud to have any chance to put him away forever, but they had no evidence of fraud, even after months of trying to manufacture victims. The only way they could pull it off was to have Dennis defenseless and hogtied, hence his million dollar bail, solitary confinement, reading all of his mail, and so on. When they could not help themselves and repeatedly violated his civil rights in jail, and his supporters were not rolling over and playing dead like they hoped (including that mysterious benefactor who put up $50K to defend Dennis), the judge reduced Dennis’s bail to zero.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

Once Dennis was out and could defend himself, the prosecution almost immediately dropped all of the fraud charges,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#plea

and the only “crime” left to prosecute was failing to file the form. I apologize for making the following analogy, but I have found that many readers need it to better understand what happened. Instead of the civil law “violation” and fraud charges, let’s make them more commonly understood, like a parking ticket and bank robbery. And remember, the parking ticket was for parking in a no-parking zone that was not marked as such, and there were a hundred thousand other cars parked there, but only Dennis’s car got a ticket.

So, imagine that you got that ticket on your windshield one day, but instead of just mailing in a check, you got arrested with a million dollar bail. Why the excessive bail, you asked? You also saw the same cops who arrested you break into your car and strip it before you got your ticket, so you knew that something smelled pretty bad about the entire matter. The thieving cops also decided to charge you with bank robbery. Never mind that no bank reported a robbery, the cops were going to get you for bank robbery and not just a parking ticket, but the only way that they could make the bank robbery charges stick was to fabricate the appearance of a bank robbery, so they canvassed all the banks in the area, asking them if they ever noticed any missing money. A couple banks said that, in fact, one day they did notice a dollar or two missing from their teller’s drawer, the day after you cashed a check there, so theoretically, maybe you robbed them. That being good enough for the cops and the prosecutor, they also charged you with bank robbery, gave you a million dollar bail, and away you went. Also, upon arresting you, all the cops involved got big promotions, with the ringleader cop being put in charge of the jail so he could look to your comfort, as you were the catch of his career:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#promotion

But when he kept violating your civil rights, in his zeal to break you for trial, so you would plead guilty to anything just to get out of his clutches, he went too far, even in Kangaroo Court, and the judge let you out of jail. As soon as you were freed from jail and could defend yourself, the bank robbery charges were dropped, because there literally was nothing to support those charges, other than a bank teller’s window coming up a few dollars short one day. The banks never even complained, but only joined the charges after the cops campaigned to them to press charges (and even threatened some banks that if they did not press charges, they could be found guilty as co-conspirators in bank robbery, believe it or not).

So, all that was left to prosecute you for was the parking ticket, and the judge said that he nailed you. You definitely parked there, which you even admitted. That the no-parking zone was unmarked, and a hundred thousand other cars were parked there made no difference, the judge said. “Ignorance of the law is no excuse,” and all of that happy tripe. But everybody agreed that the ludicrous bank robbery charges had been dropped. Nevertheless, the judge used a novel interpretation of the parking ticket charge. He came up with a ruling that was never made before or since: a parking ticket was an offense that merited prison time, and not minimum security easy time, but they put you in with murderers and were going to see if you survived the experience.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#violate

Also, right after sending you off to prison for that parking ticket violation, the judge and the prosecutor were promoted, with the prosecutor becoming a judge herself:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#promotions

Good times for being a lawyer, for sure. Of course, you protested being given prison time for a parking ticket, and you also saw all the crimes that the prosecution committed in its pursuit of you, and you even had the joy of a misconduct hearing, where at least some of their crimes came into the open,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#witness

even if it did not affect their ability to put you into prison. When it came time for the appeals court to rule on your case, they artfully presented your charges and “conviction” by stating:

“The defendant was charged with a parking ticket and bank robbery, and eventually pled guilty to the charges and was sent to prison.”

They artfully conjoined the bank robbery charge with the parking ticket in their brief, hoping that the reader would be duped into thinking that you pled guilty to bank robbery as well as the parking ticket. Take a look at those FTC charges:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

as well as that appeal ruling:

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/959/240/220419/

That is exactly what they did. It is also more egregious than that, as the appeal ruling stated:

“He was also charged with several counts of common law fraud, all charges stemming from his marketing of a heat pump which was purported to generate electricity.”

Dennis never marketed a heat pump that he said generated electricity. So, they can’t even get the facts straight.

Of course, unsaid in all of that is that the entire prosecution was inspired by the energy industry, as they wiped out an upstart competitor, and the corrupt cops and court were only too happy to do their bidding. It is also certain that bribes were passed along, never mind the promotions that were handed out all around.

So, the cops, prosecutors and courts committed many crimes during their prosecution, and got you for the parking ticket, but that was not good enough. They made numerous lurid statements that the press uncritically reproduced, and your mother saved the newspaper clippings and took them on tour to your friends and family, telling them the story of what a horrible bank robber and baby killer you are.

And even though the courts had to use artful deception to try to fool its readers, when they conjoined the dropped charges with what they got you on, people based careers on misrepresenting even that, telling everybody who would listen that you were convicted of bank robbery, and they also knew that you killed babies, but could not get you on that charge – maybe someday they will, “if justice prevails.” To this day, they go on national TV, saying that you pled guilty to bank robbery:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

That is how our vaunted system works, in the good ol’ USA. That is a big reason why we do not have FE today. And, as you can see, Godzilla had little to do with the above narrative. Yes, the deputies probably stole all of the technical material in the raid for Godzilla’s benefit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

and the billion dollar bribe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

was certainly offered by Godzilla, who simply added a couple of zeroes to the offer of a year previously:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

but it sure did not take much under-the-table money to get the cops, prosecutors and judges in the hangin’ mood. They love hangings, and they really get their kicks when they hang innocent people. So, the opportunity to hang a Christ-like figure was an opportunity that rarely comes around, and like the events of two thousand years ago, getting the mob to yell, “Give us Barabbas!” is a triumph of herd management, and they are ecstatic when they accomplish it. Getting the masses to cherish their own enslavement, as their saviors are martyred while mob cheers, is the dark shepherd’s greatest triumph.

Well, it is time to get my gear ready for my days playing in the mountains.

Best,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

Well, it is time to get my gear ready for my days playing in the mountains.

Best,

Wade

Enjoy Your Time in the Mountains, Wade!

You will see this ALL turn around in this lifetime, methinks...there is a mirror in front of the fraudsters of all walks of life bringing the 'active' reflection of what they are and do into their lives profoundly now!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Ilie, the “orders of magnitude” of energy use that you are thinking about on my site is here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

In the last level, the one that may be ahead, you can see that “efficiency” begins to become an obsolete concept. That would be a long discussion, but it is also germane to your “what would become obsolete” thread.

While doing housecleaning this morning, an analogy that should place my efforts into a framework that everybody should be able to understand came to me like a thunderbolt. I think that it will become a companion analogy to my FE Onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

This is an ideal time for the inspiration to hit me, as I will work on that analogy in my head, as I hike in this vicinity:

http://www.pbase.com/ericnoel/slate_peak

this week.

I’ll post that new analogy next weekend. It will be fun to create it, and I think that it will be very helpful for my readers.

Thanks for the positive vibes, eaglespirit. They are highly appreciated! :)

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wade, please be careful - and come back to us soon.

Love,
Ernie

[sandy]

Take Care Wade and Stay Safe,

Most of all ENJOY, RELAX and FEEL the JOY of ONENESS with MOTHER NATURE :)

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Happy hiking Wade :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Sitting in a mountain meadow with my wife is as good as my life gets (pic attached). I usually lead a backpack this time each year, but this year, I wanted some quality time with my wife, and I got it.

More posts coming this weekend.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

OK, this will be Godzilla post #3. I’ll get some others done this weekend, including, I hope, a new analogy to help put my efforts into a more understandable context. I heard that there is some discussion of this thread on Avalon somewhere. I don’t plan on reading it. I want to focus on this one, and that one that Ilie began on just imagining abundance.

In my previous Godzilla posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=301107&viewfull=1#post301107

it may be obvious that Godzilla barely needed to lift a claw. Many eagerly did his bidding, unwittingly or not. Mr. Deputy and his cronies were definitely dangled promotion carrots and probably straight bribes, but in Ventura County, really, what happened there was not too unusual for them. They rigged the Rodney King beating trial:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King#Trial_of_the_officers

and the trial was likely moved there because their trial-rigging skills were needed. The people who run Ventura County have often resorted to murder:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

I could go on for a long time on all the murders, disappearances, frame jobs and other festivities that the people running Ventura County regularly engage in. It is no different today. Mr. Deputy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#deputy

recently retired to a hero’s farewell, after his long and glorious career as a protector of the public. He probably does not know much about Godzilla or even care. He just chased carrots, and destroying innocent lives, and possibly contributing in a significant way to humanity’s destruction, was just a day at the office for him, one that gave him a great deal of pleasure. When he made it clear to me how much fun he was having:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

rubbing my face in evil, that was my radicalizing moment, but Godzilla looked on from afar. Mr. Deputy was simply a gun for hire.

But, others were on Godzilla’s payroll more directly than Mr. Deputy was, and some may have been. You will see that if they were doing it as Godzilla’s employee or were free-lancing, in the end, it did not make much difference.

Dennis had to survive the capitalistic jungle filled with the lower-level predators before Godzilla ever took notice, and here is a partial list of those on the lower rungs who were either involved or aware.

Before Dennis became paralyzed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#va

he tried to transform the insulation business,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#cook

using many of the same strategies that he later used with his heat pump business. His programs were so explosively successful that the sharks always came swarming, and on the East Coast that often meant the mob, but also his business associates got gold fever and betrayed Dennis in countless ways. Also, the local robber barons saw the threat that Dennis posed to their fiefdoms, and their vassals in the media obliged them. In one Maryland newspaper (or was it Delaware?), they named Dennis “The Con Man of the Year” or some such label. As I discovered the hard way years later, the media can simply make it up as they go, but it was just the state media that time, not the national media. Dennis had not yet attracted national attention (except that he was once Pat Robertson’s partner, and that is a long story that I don’t have time for today – the brief version is here http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ucs ) .

When Dennis got involved with the heat pump, he again was the biggest thing to ever hit the industry, and he made huge waves. As with before, his business associates betrayed him repeatedly, the mob got involved, he survived murder attempts, and the rest of that fun:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco2

When Dennis’s son died of crib death when he was visiting his family in Washington right after his company was stolen again:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

and the WHOOPS disaster made a market for his heat pump in his home state:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#whoops

Dennis stayed and eventually made a run at it. What he did in 1984-1985 stands today as the greatest attempt yet made to bring alternative energy to the American marketplace. And the local energy interests pulled out all the stops to wipe him out. It worked. Bill the BPA Hit Man:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

was certainly a paid provocateur, and the evidence points to him being a Godzilla asset, but who knows for sure? At the federal level, Dennis attended hearings in Washington DC on Carter’s energy tax credit, and was even assigned to his own subcommittee, to write some performance requirements for energy saving equipment. Almost the entire solar industry was a scam in those days, and Dennis was actually trying to help clean it up, which led to endless attacks from the solar industry people. When the snuff job in Seattle became high profile, a U.S. Senator went to Dennis’s house to try to warn him (it was chicken-hearted advice, but politicians are not noted for their courage).

The first time that we were undoubtedly approached by Godzilla was the friendly buyout offer in Boston:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

When we were flying high in Ventura, before they lowered the boom on us, Ed Meese, the USA’s Attorney General, knew Dennis by name, and said that Dennis was “squeaky clean:”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#squeaky

So, we knew that the feds were highly aware of us, but it was hard to say what all they knew. When Mr. Big Time Attorney asked his FBI pals to give him the scoop on Dennis, they replied that their files on him were huge, as were the CIA’s.

But, none of that was at the Godzilla level. It was just the national level stuff. Bill Clinton and Al Gore knew Dennis by name, and Clinton hated Dennis (this was when Dennis put five thousand people into a sports stadium to talk about FE):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

I read the letter that Gore (AKA “Mr. Environment” – or at least the politician’s version of it :) ) wrote to us a few months after the meeting with Yull, and he wanted to make it clear why he backed off of further involvement: he did not deny that Brown’s Gas produced transmutational effects; he felt that it was too dangerous to try, end of story.

The Bush II administration probably knew Dennis better than any other administration since Reagan’s, and they surprisingly were far from hostile, unlike how the Obama administration seems to be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

As strange as all of that White House attention was, it was all below the Godzilla level. Godzilla uses the government when he needs to, but people like the sitting president are out of the loop on the big stuff. From what I have seen, Greer is right about that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents

So, all of the above events had little influence from Godzilla, IMO. But below is where Godzilla’s claw seemed to show, but it is often difficult to know exactly what is happening, because Godzilla plays a subtle game. When Godzilla’s agents appear, or free-lance criminals, they never hand you their card, saying that they are a bad guy. In fact, they do the opposite, trying to appear to be affable, overgrown Boy Scouts, like we were. They eventually remove their masks:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#darkness

but it is usually as they are sinking their daggers into your back. And here is where today’s class begins. I am going to provide some specifics on how I saw them operate.

Bill the BPA Hit Man approached Dennis as the snuff job in Seattle was underway:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#scam

He posed as somebody who wanted to help.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ag

Dennis had been around the block many times by then, and did not believe that Bill was whom he presented himself as, and neither did Dennis’s wife, but Dennis said that he wanted his enemy close to him, to watch him. That was a big mistake. When Bill came in, he tried to befriend all the company’s key employees. Dennis deceptively told Bill that his confidant was an unbalanced Vietnam Vet named Harlow, and Bill suddenly became Harlow’s best friend. Their partnership led to a woman’s death:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

But that was only one of numerous activities that Bill engaged in. Before they killed that woman, they engaged in a great deal of mischief, but it was done on the outside. Bill initially bided his time, waiting for the attack by his friends at the Attorney General’s office, orchestrated when Dennis was out of town on a business trip, looking for a way to escape Washington:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#relocate

When the company was most vulnerable, and the AG attacked with a media smear and fraudulent lawsuit, Bill then tried to incite mutiny on the inside. It did not work as intended, but Bill’s ten-week tenure at the company gave him enough access to find more dupes like Harlow. He found four to file that phony lawsuit with him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#bk

but that was after a string of burglaries and sabotage of the factory:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#sabotage

When Dennis allowed “shoot to kill” authority to his security service, with a reward for catching the criminals in the act, the break-ins stopped. Then, about every regulatory agency in the USA descended on the company, including the fire department, OSHA, the IRS and so on.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#sabotage1

And here is where I begin an example of somebody who should have known better. Mr. Engineer was a World War II veteran. The military sent him to MIT for training, but he also saw action in the Philippines. He played in the Big Time. He knew Frank Lloyd Wright:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lloyd_Wright

and other luminaries. He eventually became the first plant superintendent for Boeing’s 747 manufacturing facility in Everett, which is the world’s largest building. Mr. Engineer was not a genius, but was a highly competent, old-school engineer. But at about age sixty, he developed bladder cancer and Boeing forced him into retirement. Back in the 1980s, a sixty-plus engineer with cancer was pretty much unemployable, no matter how high a level he used to play the game.

When Dennis was in Yakima, rebuilding for about the tenth time, the local robber baron courted Dennis and became his partner. Mr. Engineer worked for the robber baron, almost as a gofer. When Dennis had had enough of Mr. Rich and moved to Seattle on that fateful day:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle

he soon sent for Mr. Engineer, who eventually built Dennis’s factory. After building the world’s biggest factory, one could say that Dennis’s factory did not present much of a problem for Mr. Engineer. But, that did not prevent Bill from siccing all the dogs on the factory that he could, once he was prevented from performing any more sabotage. But Mr. Engineer was a legend and knew everybody, and when OSHA showed up for a surprise inspection, the inspector knew Mr. Engineer, so it became a friendly inspection real quickly, and the factory passed with flying colors.

I came in during the final days of the Seattle catastrophe, but I saw its death throes. While Bill’s phony bankruptcy helped strangle the company, the major damage was the Attorney General’s phony lawsuit and media blitz. Every customer who had not put down money on the heat pump (to be refunded by the federal government when they filed their tax return – that was how Carter’s tax credit worked) cancelled their order. From more than a thousand orders to four hundred overnight, and with zero ability to sell even a pencil in Seattle after that, the company was doomed.

But the inside-outside job of Bill and the Attorney General, assisted by the corrupt courts and media, was what Dennis’s “allies” needed, as they saw their opportunity to steal the business. My boss, the controller, engineered the theft, assisted by our general counsel:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#theft

My boss purposely kept me away from the area where he engineered the theft. Dennis hired the man to ensure that he properly completed the stock deal with a shell company, which immediately took the company public. My boss purposely did not get the deal properly executed so that he could later steal the company. I do not know if he thought that way when he came in the door, or when the Mormon grifters showed up, but his criminal neglect of his duties is what allowed him the steal the company. And this is where Godzilla might have also been involved.

Steve Greer has long said that the Mormon financial empire was one of Big Boys’ biggest players:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mormon

I take Greer’s reporting very seriously. Dennis had about four hundred employees in Seattle at the end of 1985, as they rushed to get those four hundred systems installed before the tax credit expired at the end of 1985. Not long after he began building his staff, he found himself surrounded by Mormons. In the Western USA, Mormonism is the religion of the ambitious. I know of people who became Mormons because of the business opportunities that the membership provided. I don’t know how much Godzilla had to do with it, but Mormons stole both the Seattle and Ventura companies, after inveigling their way inside the company.

But my education in Seattle was not so much about how the media operated, or the corrupt judicial system, or even people like Bill the BPA Hit Man. My big surprise was how almost everybody played along, enticed by the carrots waved under their noses. I think that my boss, the general counsel, their many accomplices and all of those employees who cheered the thieves (it was my first “Give us Barabbas!” moment, but far from my last):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

were merely being opportunistic. And Dennis’s business associates also got into the act, and another salient moment that summer was watching the feeding frenzy over the carcass of Dennis’s company, as everybody was ripping and tearing for all they could get:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient2

That woman who died worked for Mr. Engineer, and he totally agreed with Dennis’s version of events regarding that incident (Mr. Engineer and I talked about it one day):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

He saw all the evil plays made as the Seattle company was dying, but it was also evident from the beginning of our relationship that while Mr. Engineer was a nice guy, he was in it for the money. He was unemployable, and Dennis was the only person who would hire him. When Dennis fled the state and tried to rebuild, and the “loyalists” were sitting around, waiting for Dennis to make something happen, Dennis sent a thousand dollars to the loyalists, to help them, and Mr. Engineer got half of it. The loyalists soon fell apart, with only two of them bowing our honorably (most of them tried to extort money from us in Ventura http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#extortion), and it was not long before I just decided to chase Dennis across the continent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

Mr. Engineer did not drop out, precisely. He said that if Dennis ever got going again, then he was available for hire. When I raised the money in Boston, Mr. Engineer was the first person that we hired, and he lived with us for five months before we moved to Ventura. I loved the old guy, but he regularly made comments that told me that he was in it for the money.

In the wake of the raid and Dennis’s arrest, and when Mr. Texas made his move:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

it was a move that I had seen before, and so had Mr. Engineer. So when I pulled up to our offices that fateful day, and saw Mr. Engineer standing with Mr. Texas and a guy who wanted to be Dennis’s protégé with me taking time off (Mr. Stooge):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient3

and Mr. Engineer said that he and Mr. Researcher were going to go work for Mr. Texas, my heart not only sank regarding Mr. Engineer’s obvious betrayal of Dennis, but I initially could not believe that Mr. Researcher would act so dishonorably. Mr. Texas had not totally removed his mask for everybody to see, but the smell of brimstone and that pointy tail sticking out of his pants were painfully obvious to me, and it had to be for Mr. Engineer. He could not have been that stupid to not see what was happening. He later called himself naïve, but I think that is a handy excuse for less-than-sterling integrity. A year later, Dennis told me that Mr. Texas had already unmasked himself to Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#performance

but when I heard it, it was no surprise at all. Mr. Texas was far more polished than Bill the Hit Man was. When the sledgehammer was coming down in Ventura, and Dennis was desperately maneuvering to avoid the next blow, Mr. Texas gave such an impressive performance as he auditioned for a national-level dealer position that we gave him a round of applause. But when I saw the move that he made when Dennis was arrested, I had no doubt of his intentions. I had already seen at least a dozen attempts to steal Dennis’s companies by that time, but the only successful plays were when Dennis was in a headlock.

When we had the Seattle factory, Mr. Engineer got it certified by ARL (a competitor of UL http://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/arl.html). The certification sticker was placed on every heat pump that they made in Seattle, but the sticker was specific to the factory. Nevertheless, Mr. Engineer had a roll of leftover stickers, and he treated them as valuable, as did Dennis. It was part of Dennis’s “magic act,” and when Mr. Texas made his play, he offered Mr. Engineer employment, and the promise of money was all it took to get Mr. Engineer to instantly abandon Dennis for Mr. Texas. Not only was it a low-integrity move, it was obvious that Mr. Texas was a cutthroat. Watching Mr. Engineer join up with Mr. Texas and Mr. Stooge was like watching a child get lured into a car as a stranger dangled a candy bar from the window.

Mr. Researcher played the engineering game at a lot higher level than Mr. Engineer ever did, taking his game onto the global stage more than once. He and Mr. Engineer were buddies, but I could not believe that Mr. Researcher would be stupid enough to get in bed with Mr. Texas as he made his play. I refused to believe it, but heard that day that he had. It was mind-boggling to me. I went to Mr. Researcher’s home to talk to him. Once he made it clear that he was planning on going to work for Mr. Texas, I gave him a strong warning, and said that Mr. Texas and crew were “slime,” and very dangerous slime. He scoffed at me. He was going to get in that car with the candy-bearing stranger, too, and I could do nothing but watch.

Right after that, Mr. Researcher was on his knees in Mr. Deputy’s office, begging for his mercy. I eventually heard the tape (at least the part that the prosecution produced – they “lost” the rest of it, when Mr. Deputy began making threats to Mr. Researcher:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_ednref36 )

On the tape, Mr. Researcher openly made fun of my warning about Mr. Texas, chuckling that I called Mr. Texas “slime.”

Right after his interrogation session, Mr. Researcher called to advise me to get on my knees in Mr. Deputy’s office and beg for my life, too. He saw the goons ransacking his office:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

I was dumbfounded that he would be begging for mercy from those same people.

My relationship with Mr. Researcher is closer than is disclosed on my site, but let me say that I could not believe what I was hearing. Within weeks, everybody had either abandoned or betrayed Dennis, and Mr. Professor and I were his only supporters (a few others acted honorably and provided some moral suport and earned some Heaven Points, but I can just about count them on one hand). What I saw in Ventura made the Seattle events pale into insignificance.

Mr. Engineer indeed drove out to Texas to work for Mr. Texas’s operation. He had been there for only a day or so when Mr. Texas used Mr. Engineer’s relationship with Mr. Stooge to get those ARL stickers out of his hands. A few minutes after Mr. Engineer parted with those ARL stickers, Mr. Texas not only fired him, but Mr. Engineer was left to somehow make it back home to Ellensburg, penniless. Mr. Engineer was nothing more than a roll of ARL stickers to Mr. Texas, but Mr. Engineer got off easy. Mr. Texas eventually used his dagger on all the fools who supported his play. People were forced to go into hiding (and made death threats to Mr. Texas from their hiding places), as Mr. Texas screwed over many, many people.

Dennis thinks that Mr. Texas worked for Godzilla. I don’t know about that – I did not see all the evidence that Dennis did – but the inside-outside job that Mr. Texas, Mr. Deputy and friends pulled off looked just like what Bill the Hit Man and the Washington Attorney General accomplished, except at a far higher level of the game. At this time, I think that Mr. Texas worked for Godzilla in our Ventura days, but I could be wrong. Instead of some civil act “violation” in Washington, in Ventura they were trying to put Dennis away for life. It was only due to the efforts of four of us – Dennis, his wife, Mr. Professor and I – that we thwarted their efforts. We “won,” if having our lives wrecked and Dennis “only” spending two years behind bars can be considered a “victory.”

The Ventura events led to Mr. Professor’s early death:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

and I will be recovering from them for the rest of my life. And like Jesus said, those with crime in their hearts are the quickest to accuse others of crimes, the people who acted the most dishonorably during the Ventura days still blame me for what happened, still accuse me of committing crimes, and some have even engaged in criminal behavior against me, people who were once among my closest friends. People like Mr. Professor became sainted through the Ventura events, and I saw the angels with him when I bid his body goodbye:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

and I am sure that they were lined up ten deep when he passed over. Other friends stood by me in all that mayhem, and they are like gold nuggets to me today, so I had compensation on my journey that few ever enjoy. It was not all bad. I received the education of my life in those days. If I had not lived those three years with Dennis, I doubt that I would have much worthwhile to say today.

After I staggered out of Ventura, I then hit the books for the next several years, trying to make sense of what I lived through.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books

Ever since he got out of jail the first time, Dennis kept trying to get me back in the saddle with him. I was very leery of re-entering Hurricane Dennis, but he finally wore me down as the rocket began taking off in 1996. I could go into a lot of detail of what I saw during my brief stint back with Dennis in 1996-1997, but I will just relate two possible Godzilla incidents. The first was that we were being set up in a very elaborate sting operation. The Big Boys took the game to a new level:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

When Dennis rejected their billion dollar offer in 1988:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and somehow survived the prison experience (he “only” got some fingers broken and teeth knocked out after the guards put him in position to get murdered), Godzilla knew that the next effort had to be more subtle, and that sting operation (the Justice Department was almost certainly involved, but they did not hatch the scheme, they were Godzilla’s willing muscle for the operation) was highly sophisticated, with the involvement of a sovereign nation, a trillion-dollar trust, and a Manhattan penthouse suite.

I have no doubt that the sting operation was Godzilla-inspired, especially after I heard Tom Bearden talk about almost being taken out in a very similar operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden

At the same time that the sting operation was being mounted, up popped Dennis’s most persistent assailant, Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

Like with Bill, Mr. Texas and Mr. Deputy, he initially came on as the affable, friendly, “skeptic.” He even got a lot of my time, before he took his mask off. I never let him get close enough to do much damage, and he is a low level Godzilla asset, if he is an asset – I have some doubt about him, but today it is a relatively small doubt – but his performance with that libelous Skeptical Inquirer article:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

removed all doubt about his motivation. He is as dishonest as Bill the Hit Man, Mr. Deputy, and Mr. Texas are, and unlike the other three, he took his mask off for the entire world to see. He can’t be stupid enough to have honestly made his “mistake” about Dennis’s “criminal” record, and his behavior since then only reinforces that impression. He just keeps telling the same lies over and over, in the British propaganda style:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm#goebbels

I must again apologize for the following analogy, but it has blown me away that leading names in the FE field are gulled by Mr. Skeptic’s “affable skeptic” act, long after he took off his mask. If there is anybody who is the world expert on Dennis’s adventures, I must vie for the title. I could be called a connoisseur of FE efforts, but I stopped paying attention to them long ago, but back then I had kind of written the book on Dennis’s adventures and my part in them. Dennis had already written a few books, mostly from his cells, and Mr. Skeptic appeared on the scene, playing “investigator.” He got a lot of my time as I tried to educate him, but his agenda soon became clear to me.

A few months after I stopped interacting him, he finally made the Big Time with an article published in the flagship publication of the “skeptical” movement. To use a piano analogy, after nearly a year of lessons and practice, here was his first public recital. Except that it was the kind of recital that Mozart gave of a Salieri piece, replete with the flatulent blast at the end (3:15 into this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A0a7QCLTcE). As the blast and its fragrance graced the air, he had unmasked himself to anybody with eyes to see. But to the media, a star was born. He has been on several national TV shows since his initial blast, repeating his performance on the national stage, and the media treats him like a virtuoso. But, treating flatulent blasts as virtuoso performances is the media’s specialty, so I don’t partake of Mr. Skeptic’s performances – once was enough – although he has stalked me on the Internet since 1997:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#warning

blasting his way across the Internet. I don’t begrudge him his blasts – we all have to make a living somehow ( :) ), but it has never ceased to amaze me how easily people are gulled by his affable skeptic act. Mr. Skeptic befriended one of the names of FE, and long after I exposed Mr. Skeptic to that name:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

he still pals around with Mr. Skeptic, interviews him on his radio show, and so forth, and the guy is on the NEM board, of all places. That is potentially fatal naïveté, and is just one more example of why FE aspirants are usually their own worst enemies.

There are a bunch like Mr. Skeptic out there. Not only did Brian survive a murder attempt during his conference-speaking days, but there was a high-profile “skeptic” that dogged Brian’s steps when he spoke at the big conferences. Brian once told me how much trepidation he had when he knew that that “skeptic” was going to show up. Mr. Skeptic showed up to at least one of Dennis’s events, and Bill the Hit Man wrecked one of Dennis’s conference appearances:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#global

The CIA crawls at events like those, as well as people like Bill the BPA Hit Man. I do not plan to subject myself to that stuff. I just write and do the occasional interview. People are going to have to make a little more effort to see the big picture than meet me in the flesh (I am not impressive in person, anyway :) ). Conferences are dead ends for this stuff, and hazardous to one’s health.

I have written at Avalon previously that one of my few supporters during my Ventura nightmare:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=249110&viewfull=1#post249110

subsequently tried to compete with me in understanding how the system works, and talking with him was like talking to a five-year-old whose notion of justice was cowboy movies. When I would not play with him anymore, I became his target ever since.

All the above is to just show where humanity is these days. Believe it or not, the above is actually pretty normal for people who play at the high levels. The club is not very large, but we all look at each other in recognition (and there is also wary doubt, as we know that many are not who they appear to be). In the end, experience is the greatest, perhaps only, teacher, but I am trying to help reorient people away from all the failed paths to FE, paths that are not only dead ends, but hazardous to the aspirant’s health. Inventor-itis, mass movement herding under ideological banners, playing the Level 11 game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level11

and the rest of that foolishness I have no interest in. I am trying to play the Level 12 game, and see if I can get enough of us to lay aside our scarcity-based baggage long enough:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

to simply imagine abundance. It might not help at all, but since an Abundance Choir has never been heard on Earth before, who is to say that it won’t help?

Gotta do house chores now. I’ll likely post something tomorrow.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I think that I am done with Godzilla posts for now, but want to wrap it up a bit. But first, a few other tidbits. Mr. Big Time Attorney dug into many areas of Dennis’s treatment in Ventura. His digging led him to suspect that the CEO of the local electric company (and one of the USA’s largest), ordered the hit on us. We knew that they were highly aware of us when we hit town:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#inside

Just like they were in Seattle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bpa

and Boston:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carpet

Just what the connection was between the CIA man who offered the billion dollar bribe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and the CEO of that electric utility, we will likely never know, but it might have been a subtle one, if one at all (although the CIA man meeting with the CEO the day after he took Dennis to dinner in Ventura would be no great surprise). Godzilla and the local energy interests have convergent interests, which are primarily about keeping the racket intact. But Godzilla plays the game at a vastly higher level than the CEO of an electric company does. I heard that Mr. Big Time Attorney found evidence of bribes being given to the Ventura County legal folks, but I never heard that directly and regard it as a rumor, and I don’t like spreading rumors if I can help it (but here I am doing it :) ). I have no doubt that the Ventura County goons were compensated somehow for their efforts, compensation that far exceeded the many promotions that were handed out like candy. But, I will likely never know just what all of those bribes were, and it really does not matter much, not in the big picture.

It can be seductive to want to know just who did what, and when, but it really is not very important. What is important is to learn how to be immune from the manipulations. The bottom line is that the basics never change, and they are more important than ever for bringing something like FE to the world. Truly, the lessons that we are taught by age five are about all that we really need to know:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

People on the dark path reject all of those lessons, and Godzilla prevails by convincing people to abandon those lessons, too. He does that by playing to people’s self-interest, with his carrots and sticks, but most people succumb to their own foibles, the foibles of their “allies,” or become a meal for the lower-level predators long before Godzilla needs to lift a claw. He is the master of the game that almost all humans play, at one level or another. The only solution is to stop playing that game, but in a world of scarcity and fear, that is far easier said than done, and the ground is bloodied by all of those overgrown Boy Scouts who have been sacrificed on the altar and burned at the stake (while the masses cheered).

The FE conundrum is like no other on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#summary

The realization that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity is the one that I resisted the longest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

but it is the reason why we do not have FE today. People who think that Godzilla can be defeated in battle, or snuck by, or deceived, or doubt that he exists (I think that all Avalonians acknowledge his existence, at one level or another, which is partly why I post here – I don’t have to try to break through that particular wall of denial), do not yet understand. As soon as you think that you can defeat Godzilla, you have already lost. Everybody’s greatest adversary is themselves. The lessons that I learned on my journey were hard won:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm

The private version of that essay was originally written for Brian O, and it took me nearly a year to write it. At the end of it, I gave my prescription for how we can have FE and Heaven on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

While it may seem nonsensical and unworkable to some, it is the path with the best chance that I know of. Not only is it the “nice” way to go about it, it may be the only one that will work.

FYI, a lot of what it is in those Godzilla posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=301107&viewfull=1#post301107

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

I have never before revealed publicly. I keep rejecting offers to be on TV. There are several reasons why I have no interest in being on TV, but the most important is that there is no way that today’s TV medium can ever hope to dive deeply enough so that the right people can begin to “get it.” At this stage, the only people with any prayer of making a difference have to shed their scarcity-based indoctrination (or be actively working on achieving it):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and TV caters to those mind-traps. If you are an American, imagine a TV show that covers the subject matter of my American Empire essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

The standard biographies of George Washington uniformly fail to mention his genocidal plan to swindle the Indians out of their land:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

If I ever did a TV show on my site’s subject matter, the torches and pitchforks would soon appear at my home. I live in Washington state, of all places (and today, September 11, probably outranks the fourth of July as our nation's most orgiastic day of "patriotism," especially on the tenth anniversary of the deed).

Right now, the TV show offers and most of my radio interviews are focused on the “conspiratorial” aspect of my journey and how the Big Boys play. That is far from the most important part of it, but it can make for great ratings as it titillates the masses, or inspires rage and paranoia, none of which are productive perspectives.

Overcoming our scarcity-based indoctrination is far easier said than done, but people working on that are the only ones that I have any interest in, at least for the FE project. The rest are effortlessly herded by Godzilla and his minions. Dennis has played the FE mass movement game at a higher level than anybody else ever has, and I wish him the best, but I am doing something different. TV is for the Level 10 game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

and those interested in playing the Level 10 game should go see Dennis. With Brian O gone and Greer compromised by his über-warrior approach, Dennis is about the only one left that I respect on the “scale the ramparts” approach, and he is fast becoming an old man himself.

I’ll finish with a cartoon from one of Dennis’s books. As I recall, before they lowered the boom on us in Ventura, somebody sent that cartoon to Dennis with captions on two of the figures. One was labeled something like “The Big Energy Guys” and the other one was labeled “Dennis.” I'll let you decided where the labels went. :) Dennis reproduced that captioned cartoon someplace in his literature, but the version I attached here is from his The Alternative, facing page 38. Dennis never lost his sense of humor about it all.

I have a lot to do today, but will make another post or two.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I am taking a chore break to feed my head, and I just thought of a succinct way to make the gist of my message clear, especially as compared to the conspiracy-minded.

The basic message of the conspiracists is: “You are being screwed.”

My basic message is: “We are screwing ourselves.”

Godzilla and the rest of the parasite/predators are certainly taking advantage of the situation, but the basic dynamic is that we are the enemy, not the parasites. But that also means that the solution is not only within our reach, but it is the ethical one: if we stop being our own worst enemies, the “bad guys” can no longer play their games, or their “return on investment” is so small that they will seek easier fields to play in.

I also make this dichotomy very clear in my work. Conspiracism and structuralism, the prevailing ideologies of the “right” and “left,” have their victim-oriented perspective in common:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

and fear is the underlying emotion of their perspective.

On the other hand, if we begin acting like creators, and true creators create with love, as it is the power of Creation, then we get to have Heaven on Earth and all of that fun stuff. The fear-based perspective is also scarcity-based, and scarcity-based ideologies dominate human thought at this time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

When people play the victim game rather than the creator game, we have what we see in the world today, which is well on its way to becoming Hell on Earth. That victim mentality and its resilience is seen in the medical paradigm, for instance, and no more clearly than in the cancer paradigm:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#fail

The fear-based paradigm literally cannot comprehend the love-based paradigm, because perception really begins in the heart, and while we are fearful, we stay on the scarcity-side of the divide. Once enough of us can choose love and eventually act on it (first after singing it for a while :) ), making the paradigm shift should come naturally and swiftly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming

The root of all religions and even all of that New Agey stuff is love, but it is so hard to attain in a world of scarcity and fear. That is the challenge before those of us who are awake and awakening. I must say that the challenge is a formidable one. I have yet to see anybody honestly say, “Hey, this Earth stuff is easy! Do you have anything that can really challenge me? I am bored.” :) If they do, then I have a little project for them, that they should be able to knock off in their spare time.

Back to the chores,

Wade

[sandy]

Hi All,

Been pretty busy with getting yard and house ready for winter season, scraping and painting cement foundation and stairs of house as they were disintegrating from the lack thereof. Flower beds, etc and all that great stuff of joy in being outside.

Hi Wade, hope you mountain break was all you created it to be and thank you for all the posts and great reading, updating and reminders of previous writings to keep consciousness present.

Thanks for all the contributions and great posts everyone. I am now into my third week of many routine changes for myself and find my patience withstanding:) Staying in the present moment seems to be the magic that keeps control issues at bay as my dear brother works hard to conform me to his routines, beliefs and lifestyle. We are having some very interesting discussions on life's purpose. He is sensitive to my needs at times and I find this endearing and let him know, much to his discomfort:)

There is a purpose and process for us being together for awhile but I have no answers as lessons will be learned I'm sure for both of us. I do not believe he is going to be here too much longer due to his COPD and daily inebriation so I love him unconditionally as I know he is frightened about his health.

Must run as sharing the computer is now part of my reality as I can always find things to do, and dear brother spends many hours on the computer.

[ulli]

Hey, Sandy, have you ever thought of introducing your brother to Wade's website? You could just leave a page open, on the computer screen, "accidentally", as they say.
I take it you are sharing a computer.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Sandy, I wish you find much valor and understanding and love in your heart for your brother. I know what kind of lesson you are in. Mine lasted three weeks and ended in August. With not too good score I sadly admitt :( I hope you do better than me :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Yesterday, I was made aware of this movie:

http://thrivemovement.com/

With Brian, Trombly and Greer in the cast, and I saw an image of Sparky in the trailer, it shows some promise. Add in people like Perkins and Goodman, and it could be tasty. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Sandy:

Thanks for the news. That sounds like quite the challenge, and you are gleaning your blessings from it. Ah, battening down the hatches for winter. Having lived in Ohio, Boston and New Jersey, I know that Seattle does not really have winters, and certainly not like Canada’s, but getting ready for winter is a pleasant chore for me. Whenever the next season comes, I find myself looking forward to it, but I admit that sunny spring days, with the riot of flowers, and playing in my garden, is my favorite time of year.

Ulli, I appreciate the sentiment, but I admit that my site is dangerous material. I have seen friendships and family relationships end over my site. Site’s like Brian’s:

http://www.brianoleary.info/

are probably better introductions, but it is definitely stuff on the fringes.

Hi Robert:

Dealing with families present great karmic opportunities, and even when we “fail,” it is still progress, although it can be very painful progress. That we make the effort is what I think is most important, and where our hearts are as we try. We can’t predict the outcome, but we can control how we approach the issue and act.

I was just looking at Brian’s site, and one of his recommended sites:

http://www.free-energy-info.com/

did not mention Trombly. I wonder if it was because they were seized by using national securities laws. Hmmm.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

The "Thrive" trailer asks the question: It is even possible for humans to thrive?!... What a shame that we need to ask that and that the answer is not obvious. But it's good that someone at least asks the question.

About the http://www.free-energy-info.com/, that was pretty much my introduction to Free Energy. It has a lot of interesting designs, and is definitely and eye opener about some gaps that we have in physics, but we took for granted in school just to pass that damn physics class! (even if we felt something was not properly explained or is plain "backwards").

However, that site does not really go into ZPE, which to my understanding now, is the Holly Grail of Free Energy. If I recall correctly it does mention the man that Wade calls "Sparky". So for those interested in how Free Energy might work, that site is a very good read! You can also get a lot of "do it yourself" ideas from there. And, who knows, it might unlock your imagination into "what is possible"!

[Wade Frazier]

FYI, people are expecting me to write a tribute for Brian, and like so many other similar efforts, they grow in my mind or in the writing. My essay is going to be more ambitious than just my recollections. It will be part biography, part recollections and part Brian’s vision and legacy. It will take a little while, but maybe this month, if I am lucky.

Best,

Wade

P.S., Yes, Ilie, that site can open eyes. But beware of tinkering! :) If you stumble onto the way to condition the magnets like Sparky did, or find another way to tap the ZPF, you will be on Godzilla’s radar, you can count on it, and I don’t care where you are on the planet or how surreptitiously you think you are acting. That is obviously part of the conundrum. Nobody can run under the radar. Some of you may recall being told when young, that whatever you do, God is watching. Well, in the FE game, whatever you do, Godzilla is watching. If you operate from that assumption, it is healthy, not paranoid. Many have tried to sneak up on him, and none ever have been successful, and many have been disabused of their naïveté if they got very far, sometimes fatally.

[ulli]

I decided to call for free energy with our signatures here at Avalon,
and maybe even other forums where we are active.

We know about the power of the word and intent, backed by emotion...
what do we have to lose...

[onawah]

This thread may be the better place to have posted the following, so I will ask a Mod.

Meanwhile, see Trailer for "Thrive"--new documentary soon to be released (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30278-Trailer-for-Thrive-new-documentary-soon-to-be-released&p=307190#post307190") for a trailer about a new documentary to be released on 11/11/11 entitled Thrive, which is about how free energy can change everything.

[ThePythonicCow]

This thread may be the better place to have posted the following, so I will ask a Mod.

Meanwhile, see Trailer for "Thrive"--new documentary soon to be released (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30278-Trailer-for-Thrive-new-documentary-soon-to-be-released&p=307190#post307190") for a trailer about a new documentary to be released on 11/11/11 entitled Thrive, which is about how free energy can change everything.

It seems to me that your Trailer for "Thrive"--new documentary soon to be released (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30278-Trailer-for-Thrive-new-documentary-soon-to-be-released) thread deserves both a life of its own (it is not focused on Wade Frazier) and also deserves a mention here.

So with your last post, and my reply, we have both :). I shall leave your thread separate.

Thanks for inquiring!

[sandy]

Thanks Ulli for your suggestion :)

Yes we are sharing a computer. My brother is quite busy showing me documentaries from netflix which he has placed on my computer and it is quite cute that he is asking me to watch all kinds of things on conspiracies, scarcity and trageties around the world. I have been doing so as have decided to go at his pace and accomodate what his interests are. He is quite pragmatic at times and then contradicts himself with belief systems he hasn't awoken to about himself and his perceptions, thus scarcity paradigms catch him defending governments, military, etc. I question his ideas and share how I see the world (not pretty overall) but find once he is under the weather so to speak he is much more open and less defensive about his perceptions of the world.......................I think the "Macho thing or ego is less in control and his wonderful heart can show itself and lead the way:) He is quite a softy underneath it all!!

[sandy]

Hi Robert,

Thank you for your understanding, support and encouragement. You share words of experience and thus wisdom from lessons you have learned. I take strength from your words and know that love is the answer for us all. Sending you lots of strength and love right back to carry you through your time of healing. Take care of yourself dear brother :)

[sandy]

Hi Wade,

I can hardly wait for the documentary to come out as it sounds fantastic from the trailer. Thanks for the heads up as this sure sounds like a winner for FE consciousness to greater numbers of people.

Yes spring and the sunshine are my favorite days as well however fall does come in second due to the beautiful colors the creator covers Mother Earth in and shows off another one of the wonders of our world.

As always, look forward to your writings, insight and feedback and thanks for the support in helping me stay present and aware by your non stop writing and posting. I find I just have to come to the thread and read a little to enliven my sense of wholeness and gratitude to be here and now experiencing such an exciting time to be alive........All is Well!!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Vesperman began a petition some months ago. He is one of the FE good guys, so I signed it.

http://www.signon.org/sign/end-suppression-of-energy

But I admit that delivering it to a politician is not exactly guaranteed to work. :)

Hi all:

We will see how that movie goes. Greer’s Disclosure Project was a powerful way to get the message across, which is why the Big Boys had to start killing people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mj12_4_1.htm

That movie seems to be moving along those lines, so we will see. All of the FE people in that movie survived murder attempts, so they know the territory.

There have been a bunch of posts to Avalon on that Thrive movie, and I was just looking at one of the threads, and I was surprised to see Dennis:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30052-Free-Energy-The-Race-to-Zero-Point&p=304868&viewfull=1#post304868

I have not watched that documentary before, but I suppose that I have to put it on my list now. Finding two hours to watch it (and I am subtitle dependent with my increasing deafness) will be the hard part.

Enjoy the rest of summer,

Wade

[David Hughes]

It's a rare occasion these days that I don't talk about free energy with people outside of work that i meet for the first time. Conversations about career, TV shows, sport etc don't interest me, so i've decided to take control of the conversation and steer it towards FE and living in abundance. I've had some success with people but most are put off by the sheer volume of info contained on Wade's website, lamenting about how they just don't have the time to read it all. Something like that 'Thrive' documentary may complement Wade's material nicely as an introduction for those short on time. I should maybe also have a go at writing my own book.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Tyler,

If I got this right, your efforts are somewhat similar to Dennis's sales pitch: try to sneak the free energy idea behind the conscious mind of the person in front of you! If they are too blind folded to see what's good for them, at least try to trick them into accepting it.

While I agree that your FE chat is much more interesting than the "casual gossip or weather talk", because you need to "trick the persons mind" and somewhat manipulate them into "the free energy issue", it seems the base of your effort is not really solid. Once your charm is out of their face, these people will completely forget the free energy idea and will dive back into the "daily real life", spinning the wheels of the system, too busy making a living to think of abundance.

Probably your book will have more success because it will require a conscious effort to buy it, and genuine interest to actually read it!

[David Hughes]

Ilie,

I'm not really 'sneaking it by them' - more 'parking it right under their noses'. I used to work in sales and customer service so I am used to interacting with people from all walks of life. I never see most of the people that I interact with ever again, but some i do. With those, i can prod them a little harder the second and third times to see if they are interested in taking a deeper sniff. Ultimately i have nothing to lose here. These are just random people that i encounter. I enjoy the challenge. If one person out of a hundred that I talk to gets something from Wade's writing or my ramblings then that's the job done for me. They certainly wouldn't have learned anything about FE if i had started waffling on about how bad the weather has been this summer, or if I had discussed another meaningless weekends worth of sporting action.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I'm always amazed at how little the average person really knows, not talking of anyone here at Avalon. They cannot even name the planets, in or out of order. They know virtually nothing about biology, philosophy, math, chemistry, physics etc, etc, etc.
How can you tell them about FE. First you have to educate them in all the areas they are ignorant about - it is really hard going.
My former best friend of over twenty years is a good example. For the first five years I simply listened to his views on the world, agreeing but with reservations to be brought up later. Then after five years I began his training. Ten more years and I finally had his attention. Another few years and he finally agreed I knew something. A few more years and I had him discussing things at a relatively high level.
But then I hit a wall. He could not accept certain aspects of reality as I presented it, even with proof! I would give him books to read, articles from mags and newspapers etc. He even read my books. (One of the few to ever take the time). And in the end, we had a falling out. I may have overloaded him because he went down the dark path after that, disappearing into the drug culture where I could not follow, or would not.
I hear he has lost fifty pounds and begs on the street corner, among other nasty things.
So sad.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

Great subject. Tyler, you always seemed like a salesman, and I mean that in a good way. Dennis is a marketing Einstein, and I helped and watched the master build killer sales teams from nothing. Salesmen are believers, and deep down, almost all of them really want to sell something that they believe in. But, the economy is full of rackets, so most of what they sell is schlock (that is why salesmen are needed :) ), and almost all sales jobs pay by commission, so salesmen are encouraged to become mercenaries. They are extroverts, so they get their energy from interacting with people. I am an introvert, so it takes energy to interact with people, and I have to conserve my energy (yes, it is ironic that I flack for FE with that limitation :) ). I could go on for a long time about salesmen and the public.

Your proposed approach works for John. Q. Public, if somebody like Dennis is going to sell them a super heat pump. But, as Dennis found out the hard way, you can’t out-herd the shepherd. I have watched Dennis go from pure capitalistic opportunity to “just Christians” to “Patriots” to “save the environment” to “bang on the White House doors” to non-profit charity to the Madison Avenue game. I don’t know what Dennis has not tried. Well, actually, I do, which is what I am trying. Engaging the public like he does, or through the mass media, develops an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep, and class has not really begun yet.

As you are finding, people do not want to read. But that post-literate attitude that you are finding has more to do with mental laziness than it does that they simply do not have enough time. They want to be spoon-fed. You can’t spoon-feed them a paradigm-shift, not one that nearly the entire world opposes.

While that upcoming Thrive show might end up being good work (going on something like that with Adam and Brian would be an honor, but I play at a lower level, and am fine playing where I do – I have not had to survive a murder attempt yet, and have yet to live behind bars), at best, it will spur some people to go deeper, probably about 1% of the intended audience, and you are right in that it will not be for mass release in three thousand theaters. And we are not going to get to the FE finish line until enough of us can go deep. This is what I found out after years with Dennis, and many more years watching him from afar, trying to connect with people, to get them willing to save their own hides. He has had his successes, but the crowd only paid attention when Dennis was about to pull a rabbit out of his hat (or give them a free energy machine, like he did in Seattle). Then they would flip the channel to Dancing with the Stars when his show was over. And if he ever began to gain more traction, then the big media would get involved, spraying their lies about him on national TV shows (there have been several, and all feature the lying Mr. Skeptic and friends), and then you get to watch those close to you buy the BS, hook, line and sinker. The story of my mother saving up those newspaper clippings and taking them on tour to my friends and family is intended as a cautionary tale for those who think that they can awaken the herd:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

The dark shepherd has total control of them. Anybody who tunes into an FE show because some A-list celebrities are hosting it will tune into Dancing with the Stars the next hour, and so on. You might reach one-in-a-thousand that way, to inspire them to go a little deeper, but that is about it. If you have the courage and persistence of Dennis, you know that those are the numbers, but you do it anyway, because you are looking for gold nuggets in a mountain of mine tailings, and you live to find the nuggets. I am not saying that that does not have its place, but only somebody with the persistence of a Dennis will do it for long.

I am not saying that multimedia presentations won’t work, but at best, they can only inspire people to do the work to begin to gain knowledge. As Chomsky says, if people want to really learn, they have to do the work. Nobody can spoon feed it to them. Those who say that they can will deliver its opposite: mind-controlling dogma.

I am trying to do something very different, as Ilie knows. I fully admit that I am looking for needles in haystacks. I am seeking to form a nucleus that is not going to be distracted by the latest media event, the latest energy “solution” bandied about, like biofuels, hydrogen power, the crazy flacking for nuclear power that “progressives” like Monbiot have been doing lately, and so on. It has taken a lifetime to gain the perspective that I have today, and if I did not think that that perspective was not important, I would not have done my site or be posting at Avalon. And, as you can see, it is attracting some deep thinkers like Ilie and Ernie, and that is my intention. I sympathize with your intention, greatly. I have watched Dennis try the approach that you suggest for twenty-five years, and I rode with him in the saddle for the most dramatic years of his ride. He is the best that there ever was, for what he does, but I finally decided to do something else. He has even changed his tune over the years, and is going for quality over quantity, in his own way, but playing to the trailer parks, Bible bangers and “patriots” has some big downsides, but that is Dennis’s background, so I can see why he does it. In his own way, he is trying to form a nucleus.

So, your suggestion has its place, Tyler, but it is not what I am trying to do. You yourself have estimated that about one-in-a-thousand are awake and awakening. That is a good number, IMO, and that is who I am reaching for. What you suggest is going after the other 999. I think that they will only be reached, really, when somebody delivers a FE device to their door, like Machiavelli said:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

For what you suggest, you should go look up Dennis, go look up the producer of Thrive, go pounding down Madison Avenue. They will be interested, but you will also need to prove yourself, because they have all seen a thousand pretenders for every one who was the real deal. I worked for Dennis for several months, for free, before he began to take me seriously. I have not mentioned it yet, but soon after I encountered Ilie in cyberspace, he translated one of my essays into Romanian and tried to attract the attention of the Romanian FE enthusiasts. He received a collective yawn (so surprise there), but that Ilie did that, on his own initiative, said a lot about him, and I immediately paid him a lot of attention. He showed how real he was, but he also kept cautioning me, saying that he was no hero. I had to keep reminding him that I am not looking for heroes, but people who can just sing the abundance song. But it has to be their song, not mine. Yes, I am recruiting for the choir, and I am humming a few notes to get it going, but it will only work when each person can sing their song, and before somebody delivers a FE machine to their home! :)

As I have been stating recently, people have been trying to get me to be on TV, and I have no interest in that. I lived in LA, and have a bunch of friends in Hollywood. Perhaps not surprisingly, some of my best friends in Hollywood know that something like the FE show will never play, but they have used me as a resource, where they pick my brain on aspects of my work. I am actually a character in more than one book, sometimes as a fictional character with my name, and at other times playing myself. They know and I know that now is not the time to play the Hollywood game with the masses, not for FE. When I see young bucks trying to get me involved with TV shows to “expose” the Big Boys and other aspects of the FE conundrum, I wish them the best, but have no interest in it. And they have a hard time understanding why I feel the way that I do. My response is usually something like, “Good luck. After you have been at it for a while, with your show shot down or corrupted by the ‘suits’ a hundred times, I’ll still be here, and we can talk.” Hollywood is Godzilla's turf. I know what they are up against, and they have yet to find out, but to be full of youthful vigor can be a heady place to be, especially when you have glimpsed material that blows away the fiction in Hollywood by so much that you can’t believe that nobody is covering it (or they make movies like Chain Reaction, which exploit your work in grotesque ways – I talk about that in my interview with Scott and Tom, starting at 13:46 into this clip http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/wade-frazier-m-the-free-energy-inventors.html – see I do some non-writing work! :) ). I am sympathetic, and for those who make an honest attempt at it, they are in for the education of their lives, an education that they never imagined they would get, but not many get very far along that path before they drop out, often with their lives wrecked. I have seen that one too many times, and I really don’t want to watch anymore.

Anyway, again, great subject. I can’t do it justice in anything less than a few days, but I think I got the gist of it across.

Gotta go to work now.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

WOW,

Great stuff to read again! IMHO all we can really accomplish in present time is the planting of seeds if the ground and atmosphere is condusive to growth in some small way. Like Johnny Apple Seed, we try our best to create a future crop of good apples :) and must remember we are only the gardner. It is up to the creator to find enough sunshine and manure to grow their own seeds from within.

I stay conscious of only being the seed planter and do not take responsibility for anymore than that these days. Looking for the fruits of your labor can be disillussioning, disheartening and self defeating in moving one away from self growth into responsibility and validation for others evolution, feeding the ego more so than the soul.

[David Hughes]

I have encountered no shortage of stumbling blocks with my sales pitch type efforts!

I tend to find marginally more joy with vegan types. Mystical and spiritual types are also quite receptive on the rare occasions that I encounter them. I live and work in Asia now and also find some fertile ground among the expat community who tend to have a wider perspective on things than folk who don't own a passport and have never left their native land.

I enjoyed these quotes about Dennis’ efforts:


Engaging the public like he does, or through the mass media, develops an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep.

.....And if he ever began to gain more traction, then the big media would get involved, spraying their lies about him on national TV shows (there have been several, and all feature the lying Mr. Skeptic and friends), and then you get to watch those close to you buy the BS, hook, line and sinker.

So the sales pitch method as demonstrated by Dennis for 25 years ultimately wont work. Getting big investors on board wont work either. The warrior approach wont work. Sneaking it under the big boys' radar wont work. There is no point getting bogged down in the physics/technology aspect of FE devices at this stage either. All that we are realistically left with is your approach, yes? I've quizzed plenty, and racked my own brain with all this, and i'm coming to the conclusion that it may just be.

The issue that i have with simply 'imagining' a world of abundance is not so much the imagining part - its the getting from this point A where we are now, to that point B, in as short a time frame as possible. If there are no shortcuts, then how is this going to happen if the big boys have the whole thing sewn up?! What's the next phase after the imagining and singing part? Or might the power and intent of just enough people singing the same chorus in the same choir actually be enough to get this ball rolling fast enough?

That book that you mentioned a few times just arrived in the post - ‘Seth and The Nature of Personal Reality’ by Jane Roberts. Looking forward to having a read of it.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Tyler,

There is a concept called "soul searching". I do not speak native English so I will not go into what that means for me, but let me use it as an example as to "how we get there".

For many years I did not believe that I have a "soul". This is important because if I "knew" I don't have a soul, why on Earth I'd be searching for it!? It would be a waste of my time! So the biggest leap in the "soul finding" quest was to accept the idea that "I might have a soul after all"... that I don't really know what and who I am...

Same is with Free Energy. At this moment in time the vast majority of humans do not even try to imagine free energy because they "know" that is not possible!

Can you see now, why the imagination exercise is so very very important? It's even more important than the "how"! It must come before the how. Once free energy will enter our mass awareness then we get to think at the "how". And I have hunch the that how will present itself. It is very important to break out of this vicious circle that free energy is not even imaginable.

[Wade Frazier]

Brilliant post, Sandy.

My mid-life crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

was really about learning to let go of the outcome of my efforts. I got a mid-life crisis served up to order. I had already been in it for a year when I saw those smoking towers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

and at that moment, I knew that my efforts were going to be too little and too late, and then I got a total nightmare for the next five years, until that White House invitation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

As I emerged from the other side of those fun and games, I realized that all I can do, really, is put out the vision and information. Nobody can do this by themselves, even Indiana Jones. Dennis eventually realized that he was just a ringleader; one hell of a ringleader, but a ringleader nevertheless. Dennis still lives by his faith, and in ways that can be hard to believe. I am not into faith, not in the religious way, and I am not even sure that I trust that voice in my head all that much, but I eventually came to a place of just putting out the truth as I know it, and see what happens. If it does not turn out like I imagine, it, then it doesn’t, and there is not much that I can do about it. I know that the tools to have Heaven on Earth are here, today, but maybe that is not the plan for this planet. And maybe it is, but none of us can really force it into being. There is something bigger happening here, and I am not sure what it all is, but I get glimpses. That is partly why I advocate the lamb’s path.

I am sympathetic to the sense of urgency and desperation that many feel, but we can’t force it, and I don’t care if Nibiru’s arrival is December 21, 2012. We can only do our part, and I see that, at least for those of us who want to experience Heaven on Earth for ourselves and as many who want it, the only thing that we can really do at this time is increase our awareness. For those who want to play Indiana Jones, or try the Wall Street or Hollywood avenues, they are out there to try, and good luck with it.

One of my favorite sayings, as I have been in the business world my entire career, is, “I am too busy bailing the boat to patch the hull.” I see constant emergency-state thinking, and it is almost always counterproductive in the big picture. Learning to relax and let go of all the emergency, desperation thinking, has been one of my key lessons.

Best,

Wade

OK, this will be a little Godzilla addendum.

I have written about how when Mr. Big Time Attorney saw how the media responded to his lawsuit in federal court against the good folks in Ventura County:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#disbar

That is when the wind began to get taken out of his sails. Dennis later wrote that it felt like they were shaking their fists at a hurricane. Mr. Big Time Attorney received further education when he was threatened with “sanctions” (disbarment) if he refilled that lawsuit once the courts dismissed it. After the sobering moment on the courthouse steps, Mr. Big Time Attorney began fading out of the picture, and submitting his motion to withdraw before the judge ruled on the prosecutorial misconduct hearings really undercut Dennis’s case. Then the judge pounced on Mr. Big Time Attorney, essentially taking him hostage and forcing Dennis into the plea bargain.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bargain

So, the plea was this: Dennis pled guilty to not filing the form and paying fifty dollars. The judge recommended probation, but Dennis had already seen how corrupt the probation department was with his bail appeals (and they worked directly for the DA),

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#probation

so he took his chances with the appeal process. The plea bargain was that the higher courts would rule on the Constitutionality of the law as it applied to his case. As you could see from that appeals ruling (which was only one appeal level of a number),

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/959/240/220419/

they did nothing of the sort, but said essentially, “The defendant pled guilty, so why are we reviewing this?” It went that way all the way through the appeals process. But before Dennis entered into the plea, Mr. Big Time Attorney said that it would take several years for the appeal to work its way through all the courts, and that he would do the appeals for free, if Dennis pled guilty to not filing that form. And that came from the nation’s leading Constitutionalist attorney, who told me that he sometimes had to carry a gun when defending his clients, because of the threats. He lost his vigor at the end of his defense of Dennis.

Dennis never slowed down, and began trying to rebuild the effort right after getting out of jail, calling his company Resurrection Marketing, with Mr. Professor footing the bill (and that is largely what drove Mr. Professor into bankruptcy). The effort soon failed, but by that time I had moved to Ohio. Dennis then went on hundreds of talk radio shows. He joined the Patriot Movement (and quickly discovered that the movement was largely bogus, with the leaders being either corrupt or not who they appeared to be),

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel

and he also tried a Madison Avenue approach.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal

Just as he was getting a head of steam again, his appeal went through the system in record time (a little more than two years), for another amazing coincidence! Mr. Big Time Attorney bowed out of the appeals process earlier than he said he would, and Dennis had another prominent attorney defending him at the U.S. Supreme Court level. By that time, the appeal included the fact that the lower courts had not honored the plea bargain and never ruled on the Constitutionality of the law as it applied to his case. California’s Supreme Court did not respond to his brief, and he should have prevailed because they did not act, but after the time elapsed, the U.S. Supreme Court ordered California to respond, and then passed review. Things happened during that string of events that left his lawyer (with a national reputation) scratching his head, saying that he had never seen the U.S. Supreme Court do that before.

Then Dennis was summoned to California, where he made a motion to withdraw his plea because the appeal courts never held up their end of the bargain. The Ventura County Superior Court judge said that withdrawing his plea was not an option, and although he noted that Dennis could make an interesting appeal for how the appeals process went, he sent Dennis straight to prison. And it was not easy time, as it should have been for somebody whose crime was not filing a form. The prison system made several “mistakes” in the file used to give him his security rating. Although his college years, his military service, and the fact that he had a wife and children should have all been heavily weighted toward making him an ideal minimum security inmate, they somehow got it all wrong in his file. He was not married, had no children, and was never in the college or the military.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mistakes

What tragic “mistakes.” He was sent to a medium security prison, put in with murderers. His first cellmate was a multiple murderer. He was nearly murdered in that prison, but got “lucky” and only had some fingers broken and teeth knocked out, and the guards put him in position to get murdered.

Dennis’s wife never gave up, and kept writing letters to anybody who would listen. She wrote to the state’s prison reform commissioner, who was investigating why the prison system was bankrupting California. Dennis’s wife wrote that it sure seemed to be a waste of taxpayers’ money to put a man in a medium security prison because he failed to file a form. The situation was so startling to the commissioner that she drove several hours and appeared at Dennis’s prison, unannounced, to get to the bottom of that very strange situation. Her appearance spooked the warden and the other prison officials, and a week later, Dennis was transferred to a minimum security prison, where he almost pleasantly spent his last months in prison.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bizarre

Dennis’s wife pierced the bureaucracy in other ways. When Dennis tried to play the Madison Avenue game, he moved to New Jersey, to be within striking distance of Manhattan, and when he was sent to prison, his family lived in New Jersey. The plan for the Ventura County goons was to force Dennis to serve his parole in Ventura County, where they would have certainly fabricated a parole violation so that Dennis could enjoy Mr. Deputy’s hospitality again. They did not know that Dennis’s wife had already received the approval for Dennis to serve his parole in New Jersey. Dennis slipped through Ventura County’s clutches. I bought his plane ticket out of California when he got out, had his plane stop in Columbus, and we met at the airport for a couple of hours. That is when he told me about his adventures in prison.

Parole in New Jersey was a fairly perfunctory affair. Dennis had to get permission to leave the state from his parole officer, and he was already making waves soon after he got out. His parole officer just about told him that he did not need to keep asking to leave the state (he was doing speaking tours before long), but had to dot those I’s and cross those T’s, and almost considered Dennis a friend. Dennis was on parole for about two years, as I recall. When his parole was over, he then kicked it into high gear with his national tours of 1996. Suddenly and illegally, he was put back on parole. When he did his Philadelphia show, he was still on parole. His case set precedents all along the way.

I can’t quite recall what inspired me to write that little vignette, but I could write a couple dozen more like that, about various stages of Dennis’s adventures.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Tyler:

Well, buddy, I am always ready for somebody like you to waltz up to Godzilla’s lair and get The Muppet Movie ending! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related

Maybe there is something that Dennis or Trombly or Greer or O’Leary or (fill in the blank with more than ten thousand names) failed to consider as they trod the FE path, that somebody new to the field can address and solve this Rubik’s Cube. But, I think that if a Rossi or a Bedini gets over the finish line, it will be because they were allowed to. If those routes work, I think it will because something happened at the Godzilla level, not because the aspirant was exceptionally talented, worthy or persistent. Dennis probably made them sweat more than anybody else ever has, but they did not have to sweat that much, not really. Godzilla has never had to consider the nuclear option yet.

Seth’s The Nature of Personal Reality is easily one of the greatest books on reality ever written. It was one of my introductions to the mystical stuff, and I picked it up not long ago, and it has aged extremely well.

I am far from certain that this attempt of mine will work, either, but it seems to be a harmless path (as long as I can keep newbies from trying to scale the ramparts, thinking that it must be easy).

I have found that there is something about the magnitude of this issue where very few people can gain an appropriate perspective. The FE Revolution would dwarf every other event in human history:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

Nothing else comes close. But because we live in today’s world, and part of the issue is technological (and a pretty small part, really), you get tinkerers thinking that they can tinker that revolution into being. Many others see that Rubik’s Cube sitting there, and think that they can solve it, because it is only a Rubik’s Cube after all. So, there is an entire faction of newcomers who think that it must be easy, and some little trick that all the others failed to do, and they can do it because they are somehow cleverer, more virtuous, and so on. That perspective reminds me of what eighteen-year-old boys think when faced with battle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

That is only one of the many pitfalls. Another trap is beginning to understand the magnitude of what FE means, and be seduced by delusions of grandeur:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

Again, I did not list those pitfalls as a theorist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

I have seen them all many times. If there is one thing that I did on my journey, it was keeping my eyes open, and I don’t forget much, either. Again, maybe a Dennis will waltz across the finish line one day, or maybe you will.

I did not intend, originally, for my lamb’s path to be THE path, but more along the lines of providing support and helping to create an environment where FE can manifest. Whether an abundance choir can produce the harmonic effects to make FE happen is kind of an experiment that I thought that I would try, and I am going about it in a way that does not risk the choir. I don’t want to see any more shattered or prematurely-ended lives. That was the hard part for me, probably more than anything else.

Tyler, it is an honor to be challenged by people like you, who keep rolling the ideas around in your head, who are not afraid to try something. Keep it up. Maybe there is something that you will come up with, a new approach that has not been tried before, or you will have what it takes to succeed, but believe me, some of the greatest people to have ever walked the Earth have been on this project for a long time.

In the big picture, it can be considered appropriate for this to be so hard, as it would be the biggest event in human history.

Gotta run off to work.

More later,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

That was brilliant, as usual. In a way, FE is like the addiction issue. The most important step that the addict takes is the first one, where they admit that they have a problem. For the masses, the most important step will be the first one, when they admit that FE is possible. But in other ways the challenge is different. For the masses, they will admit that FE is possible when it is delivered to their homes. They are not going to help at this stage, being trapped in those early denial layers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

it is up to that tiny fraction that believes it is possible before they see it. I try to not make it a faith exercise, either, but that is also part of the conundrum.

Gotta run to work,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Tyler, one thing about reading The Nature of Personal Reality or Into a Timeless Realm

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=309184&viewfull=1#post309184

is that until you get some mystical experiences under your belt, it can all seem like philosophizing or fantasy. I have found that until people can get their own experiences in the “field,” so to speak, they usually stay on one side of an invisible line where those who sit there treat it all like some theory. Until you get some experience in those realms, it is really difficult to “seat” the information. It is that way in FE, too. The problem is that getting high level experience in the FE game, where you find out that not only is Godzilla real,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

but that FE is only one of a host of technologies that have been systematically put under wraps,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

is a life-risking path. FE is the Big One, but not the only one. Advanced materials, anti-gravity and maybe even time travel are in that magic bag that is currently off-limits for us. I try to steer interested parties toward gentler experiences that can nonetheless open eyes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

That is all part of the conundrum. This stuff ain’t easy, but the path is worthwhile, I think. :)


One thing that I think will help readers and would-be rampart-scalers is the issue of disruptive technology. The fact that somebody has a piece of superior technology in their hands does not mean that it is disruptive or will be. The history of “white” capitalism shows that many superior technologies went into the dustbin of history because they lost in the market battles to inferior technology. The high tech field is littered with examples of that, with Microsoft being a great example of a monopolist wiping out competitors by unfairly using their market muscle.

When Dennis stumbled into the super heat pump field, the entire field was moribund and had never gotten off the ground:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

It was Dennis’s combination of talent, moxie, and heart that made that heat pump a potentially disruptive technology. That was what made him so dangerous, not the technology. That we were going after FE in Ventura, with the team we had, and with Sparky Sweet down the road from us, looking on with great interest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

is what made us so dangerous, so they had to take us out, and they did. A few of us sacrificed our lives and lived to try another day, but that was unusual. Very few survive what Dennis and I went through. There are people in Ventura today who will never recover from what happened when they lowered the boom on us. The same goes for what happened in Seattle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

Air strikes have dogged Dennis wherever he went, and that is why I always caution newbie would-be rampart-scalers to slow up a little. Only somebody like a Dennis or Trombly can survive in that arena for long. I have watched many pretenders crumble in seconds, and even some people who were pretty tough did not last but a short time on that firing line. Sitting on the hot seat with Dennis in Ventura is an experience that I never want to have again.

The Big Boys undoubtedly perform risk analysis like I have done here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

but at a far more sophisticated level. I am not sure where “a stampede of lambs” would show up on that graph:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph

but it is on there somewhere, and I hope it is pretty low, but I could be wrong. :)

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I have been doing the 15-hour days lately, and it will be that way for the next two months. I am always reading for my energy essay, and I am starting on my Brian essay. But I have also been thinking about that analogy which I mentioned earlier, that can complement my FE Onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

It will take some time to refine it, but the gist is a mountain analogy, similar to those energy orders of magnitude of the various stages of civilization (some would question how “progressive” those stages are, and I am sympathetic to that notion):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

There are other peaks to be found, but the mountain that I envision is The Big One, which looks down on all other peaks, and the vista is vast from its top. There are villages and towns on the mountain, and all of them are in the trees. They can’t see the top of the mountain, and many villagers and townspeople do not even realize that they are on a mountain. A few adventurous souls climbed above the tree line and confirmed the rumor that a mountaintop resided above the forest. Most regarded it as a silly legend, but some had climbed toward the top. Some glimpsed the top and saw that somebody was up there. Most who sought the top did it alone. Most were never heard from again, although a few eventually straggled into their villages and towns, telling a fantastic tale that the residents uniformly dismissed as some kind of altitude sickness. Many villages outlawed seeking that illusory mountaintop, with severe punishment meted out to youngsters who even harbored the notion. A few adventurers claimed that they were plucked off the mountainside by those on top, and were given a short tour of what was up there before they were sent back down. Rolling meadows and infinite views abounded up there. It appeared a lot like what their lore said was Heaven. Those in the forest dismissed such tales as fantasy, and forbidding anybody to seek it was to protect fools from throwing their lives away while seeking that mythical mountaintop.

Over the generations, more adventurers sought the top. But they rarely joined their efforts, because nearly all wanted to claim the top for themselves, even though they all heard that somebody already resided on top. That lack of thoughtfulness usually doomed them to falling to lesser hazards along the way.

Above the tree line, cliffs, rotten rock and predators abounded, and they all claimed many lives. Many became lost and died of exposure or starvation. A few times, the adventurers got a little smarter and formed teams, and some even had altruistic goals of finding that heavenly place, to blaze a way to the top for everybody, but most did it to claim the top for themselves, although they almost always mouthed selfless rhetoric. For the adventurers and expeditions that came closest to the top, lightning would appear, sometimes from an empty sky, and strike the aspirants. Some survived the experience, but most did not. When the few survivors told of the lightning, most of the other aspirants dismissed the reportage as a ruse, designed to discourage any competitors from reaching the top before those reporting the lightning did. Even when the survivors displayed their lightning scars, they were dismissed as burns from campfires that were not properly tended and other accidents, not due to lightning.

Some realized that the lightning stories were likely true, especially when they had seen the sky light up above them and heard the thunder. But, in what became a depressingly common experience for the lightning survivors, most newbies denied that the lightning existed, or they wore tinfoil hats and other devices designed to protect them from the lightning. Those strategies were all laughable, as far as protection from lightning went, but the newbies were only rarely convinced of their peril, especially when they got Mountaintop Fever, dreaming of standing on top. Some even thought that they could defeat the lightning in battle. Some thought that they could sneak up when the skies were clear, but the lightning invariably hit, often when the climber least expected it.

Once in a great while, a climber not only survived the lightning experience (anybody who encountered lightning had already survived the early challenges lower on the mountain) but learned from it. While the lightning maimed and killed many in the survivors’ parties, one aspirant in particular, called the Great Fool by his village, or just Fool for short, developed a theory from his long days of climbing the mountain, and observing the fates of his fellow climbers. Fool noticed that when lightning hit a sole climber, that usually was it. Few sole climbers survived the experience. When lightning hit a party, however, some of them survived, although they all got hit. The older and smaller climbers usually died from their wounds.

One day, Fool developed a theory that if a hundred veteran climbers tried at the same time, and roped together with metal wire, the lightning might get diluted enough to where few if any of them would be hurt when it struck. As Fool eventually discovered, there were not a hundred veteran survivors, at least not a hundred willing to join their efforts and try Fool’s plan. So, Fool devised another theory. If ten thousand non-climbers roped together, with a guide or two, they might successfully ascend to the mountaintop, and if the lightning hit the ten thousand, the most that anybody might feel would be a slight tingle. Also, there was a justified suspicion that those legendary people atop the mountain somehow controlled the lightning. If they saw ten thousand marching up, they might realize the futility of using the lightning, and might not even unleash it, if they really controlled it. They might even welcome the marching ten thousand, as they eventually realized how lonely it was atop the mountain. They did not set out to be lightning-keepers, and few of them relished the task anymore. Some slowly realized that playing King of the Mountain was not nearly as fun as it initially seemed, and some were looking for a way to retire from that role.

Fool knew that finding ten thousand who did not deny that the mountaintop existed, much less the dangers on the way to it, topped off by the lightning threat (or were overcome by fear of not only the prospect of the hazards, but most were deathly afraid of leaving the trees, as it is all they have known), was a tall task, maybe impossible. But Fool set out to visit the villages and towns in the forest, talking of his plan. For many years, he was dismissed as crazy, wicked, a huckster selling tickets for the expedition (although he never took anybody’s money), and other unflattering descriptions. Sometimes he was but a few steps ahead of the torches and pitchforks, but some listened to Fool. Fool is a long way from finding a hundred, much less ten thousand, but he still pursues his quixotic dream.

Well that analogy can only go so far, but I hope I got the gist of it across for now. I have a busy weekend ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

In the most respectful way possible Wade:

You are a Great Fool!

[Wade Frazier]

Ah Ernie, there are greater fools than I, but I will accept your "praise." :)

[sandy]

Hi Wade,

Great analogy and personal biography in it's creation>>>>>>>>>>>>>thank God there are those such as you who are "foolish" enough to believe that anything is possible!!, including FE and all it's immense wonders that the world at large has yet to realize.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Sandy:

Yes, fools have their uses. :)

Wade

[David Hughes]

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[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Tyler!

I have to admit that every time that I think of a stampede of lambs, I smile. The visual of that really speaks to me. I have been around lambs only a few times, but have been charmed.

Best,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/missoulian.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/5/03/da0/503da0ea-1d6b-11df-b25c-001cc4c03286.image.jpg

It IS Happening! ...in my circle of souls : )

[Tony]

I can guarantee they are NOT meditating!

[Wade Frazier]

Ok, about those lambs (awesome pic, eaglespirit! :) ). The stampede that I envision is made of sentient and loving lambs which have shed their herd instincts. As Seth said, animals never feel disconnected from the Creator. They never “lose” it, like humans have, as we constantly search for God, or now have “wisely” declared that there is no such thing as a Creator (Hawking’s recent embarrassing manifesto makes that statement, just like his buddies did http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#hawking). Losing that conscious connection is part of the price of becoming sentient here. There is an integrity to animal behavior that us “smart” humans can barely fathom. That could be part of the “meditative” demeanor that you may be detecting, Tyler. Seth said that you can learn more from truly observing an animal than you can learn from all of the literature ever written.

As Seth said, collective efforts engaged in by people who are acting from common intention and their individuality in full flower, is perhaps the most powerful force on the planet. Jesus’s “when two or more of you are gathered” is the same idea, I think. And if love is the root of their intention, look out...

Those lambs will be awake and loving, and what people like me are hoping to bring to the table is worldliness. Naïveté is no crime, but it must be shed along the way, for the FE journey. Everybody that I respect in the FE field began their journey naively, and we lost our naïveté honestly. It is one of the prices of admission, I think. Again, helping as many navigate to Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

without getting stuck in the lower levels of inventor-itis, Young Warrior delusions, the capitalist game, paranoia, and so forth, is my game. It is like walking the razors’ edge to get there, but the path is real and navigable, for those with a love of the truth and whose hearts are in the right place.

Best,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Thank you, Wade! I am really looking forward to reading all your material. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what ATS means?

[ulli]

Thank you, Wade! I am really looking forward to reading all your material. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what ATS means?

it is a website and forum and stands for Above Top Secret.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hello :)

I have stumbled upon two threads on Avalon
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13891-Changing-Education-Paradigms&p=134753&highlight=changing+education+paradigms#post134753
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30714-The-Empathic-Civilisation&p=311746&viewfull=1#post311746
hosting splendid cartoon presentations by London based organization RSAnimate. First of these presentations describes shortcomings of modern "education" and second talks about research confirming we are not natural born killers. I was amazed by quality and humor of both.

And here is my issue I wanted to bring on. I was wondering if they would dare to make such presentation on topic of free energy :) Do you think it is feasible idea to even ask them about it? And it would be necessary to prepare some script they could base the cartoon on and put some money (probably pretty much :( ) on the table... Do you think we could cook something like that together?

I am sorry to bother you with my idea...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi shamanseeker:

You can find out about ATS and my experiences with them, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

You can see that one troll camped on the thread, and when another troll joined, one who had already played his games with me, then ATS banned me, leading me to believe that ATS may indeed be a disinfo operation, although they might simply be incompetent (or is far too sophisticated a forum for me to participate in :) ). I highly doubt that any forum like that will get very far when its participants are anonymous. The conversation that I plan to mount will not have anonymous participants.

I had made posts in forums where I had seen my work discussed for years, but it rarely went well (almost invariably, people would attack me). I hoped that ATS would be a place where subject matter like mine would not quite be so mind-blowing. To a degree, that was true, but trolls also infested the place. I began several threads designed to explore the very topics that I am exploring here at Avalon, and put the trolls on “ignore,” but others began fighting them (known as “feeding the troll”), and the threads eventually strayed far from my intention, with troll fights, naïve engineers who just had to touch an FE machine in action before they would admit that they were possible, and so on. It has been difficult enough to keep this thread centered on my intentions without trolls having a field day.

At ATS, a New Agey dude joined and offered me my own forum, and I posted to it. However, anybody could join, and Mr. Skeptic showed up within weeks. Not long afterward, the New Agey dude completely wiped out my forum, without even asking me about it. I am not sure what happened, but Mr. Skeptic sprayed his venom wherever he could, and everybody who has featured my work since 1998 soon received a visit from him. I have seen and borne the brunt of his handiwork, and it is pretty creepy. He first tries the affable skeptic routine, and when that does not work, he begins unloading a disinformation bomb, full of obfuscations, twisted logic, and outright lies. When he has been caught in his lies, he never apologizes, but also never quite tells the lie the same way again, and comes up with new lies. That is how disinfo people work. When I demonstrated how “perceptive” his crackpot page was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#crackpots

he quietly removed the more egregious entries that I dissected. When his Skeptical Inquirer article on Dennis was easily exposed as libelous:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

he abandoned that particular instance of outright lying and began his disinformation pitch a little differently, without ever acknowledging that he previously knowingly lied about Dennis:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Dennis_Lee#Skeptics

and all the things that he says that Dennis never discloses, in that post at the link above, are among Mr. Skeptic’s new lies. Mr. Skeptic can be counted on to spin it as darkly as he can, and although he begins his post by saying that he has read Dennis’s books, he turns around and lies outright when he says that Dennis does not mention Bo Gritz, the bounced checks, the failed card business that reincarnated as the Discover Card, and so on. Dennis discloses all of those events in his books, in pretty good detail. Mr. Skeptic’s approach relies on people being lazy, stupid, and gullible, and it is amazing to watch people fall under his spell, people who should know better.

Mr. Skeptic has stalked me on the Internet since 1998, spewing his disinformation wherever I went. He sometimes showed up the same day that I appeared. Because Internet forums come and go without a trace, few of his attacks are viewable today (he mounted a particularly disgusting attack at Guerilla News Network around 2002), but one of his more polite versions has survived:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/353778.shtml#251272

I was at ATS for several months, and Mr. Skeptic never joined the party, but appeared at that New Agey forum right after I joined it during that same time period. Either he knew that the ATS trolls would do his work for him, or he actually worked with them. It is hard to say which one was the case, but I suspect the latter. That persistent ATS troll seemed like a professional, and more than one person may have been doing it; his first posts were rather infantile, but they became more sophisticated later.

So, after I was banned at ATS, I decided that open Internet forums could not successfully host conversations led by people like me, and I decided that when I got the energy essay completed, I would have to mount my own invitation-only forum. So, it was a very pleasant surprise that Bill came to the same conclusion that I did about all-comers forums and began this forum. My participation in other forums could be considered practice for this one.

Hi Robert:

I have already mentioned that I keep turning down opportunities to be on TV. I have also turned down opportunities to do cartoons and other media. While I like cartoons (and I have enjoyed a few RSAnimate presentations before), what I am trying to do on the FE front is aiming way higher than cartoons, slogans, T-shirts and the like. Dennis did stuff like that at times, and that shoots pretty low, IMO. I am trying to aim high. It is like I said before; the mass media creates an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep.

While I appreciate you thinking about RSAnimate to get out the FE idea, I am trying to use Avalon and the Internet in ways that there does not need to be money changing hands. When money gets involved, the peril leaps up an order of magnitude or two, and this cloistered environment at Avalon can give people a false sense of security. Godzilla is watching, and many people, both on Godzilla’s payroll and free-lancing, would love to wreck what I am doing, and one of the easiest ways to take me out is to have money-raising somehow connected with what I am doing. I have never solicited money for my efforts, and don’t plan to. Raising money to do cartoons is not what I am about, that is for sure. For trying to play the mass media game with FE, we’ll see how Thrive does.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Thank you Wade for your response :) I remember you writing about being reluctant to public stunts. And I was feeling somehow uneasy when it came to me money raising would be necessary. I just thought this particualr animator would be more honest than others. My naivete ;)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:

If they were real honest, they would do the job for free. :) I know, that is Peter Pan speaking. :)

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

I have not communicated with RSAnimate in regard of FE animation yet. I don't know how much they charge for an animation project.

[transiten]

Well Wade, what a blessing that you're a member of this forum! Just started reading today and I'm beyond words.....

Thankyou from transiten

[ulli]

Hi Wade. Mr. Skeptic's name was Eric Krieg? I followed a link you gave and saw his post.
There was a discussion here about names being connected with one's profession, or being.
"Krieg" is the German word for war...as in Blitzkrieg, etc.
Anyway, when a person has that kind of a name, watch out. I would have avoided him, too.
Maybe I might have countered the accusation of avoidance with:
"Change your name to Fried, (peace) and I might be willing to dialogue."
There are no coincidences, especially when it comes to names.

[transiten]

I have not communicated with RSAnimate in regard of FE animation yet. I don't know how much they charge for an animation project.

Hi Robert!

I live in Gothenburg and we've got that "gun in a knot" monument in the center of the city as well!

And ulli, there's a swedish female name "Gun", but that's not what it means in english...By the way isn't there a german word "kriegen" that means "to get"?

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[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Yes, that is his name. He already got a lot of my time, before he took his mask off:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

Once somebody takes their mask off, I am finished with them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#darkness

I gave him the benefit of the doubt, until there was no more doubt to give him. His “I am avoiding him” ruse, because I am somehow avoiding the truth and the light of “skepticism,” is another one of his lies. A wise man once said to never debate liars or fools, partly because the audience will have difficulty telling who the liar or fool is. He is well-known in the FE community as a complete fraud of an “investigator” and “skeptic.” His $10K offer for a working FE device is about the most inane thing I have ever heard of. People with the Real McCoy get the offer they can’t refuse, for a few zeroes more than he offers. Somebody with a quadrillion dollar technology is going to rush to prove it to Mr. Skeptic to get their $10K payday, a man who has repeatedly demonstrated his dishonesty. Right.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

His mentor James Randi is infamous for his own bogus challenge:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#randi

Mr. Skeptic is famous for attacking Dennis in print and on TV. That Dennis was his first and largest target is kind of an honor. That he is famous for his “skeptical” efforts is some of the best evidence I have seen for how fraudulent the entire “skeptical” movement is. Yes, maybe there is something about his name that speaks to his motivation, but we can’t help what name we were given. :)

But really, he is not worth the time for anybody here, other than being an instructive lesson on how establishment hacks operate. He is probably on the payroll:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#skeptic

but maybe his ego keeps him on his crusade. To find me wherever I appear on the Internet, and quickly, means that he either does not have a life, or is a professional. Brian O had his own stalker, cut from similar cloth as Mr. Skeptic, and the man was likely a professional. The pros are real. When the “skeptics” and other low level harassers aren’t effective, then the Big Boys start playing rough.

Best,

Wade

Hi transiten:

Welcome, and happy reading,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Hi shamanseeker:

You can find out about ATS and my experiences with them, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

You can see that one troll camped on the thread, and when another troll joined, one who had already played his games with me, then ATS banned me, leading me to believe that ATS may indeed be a disinfo operation, although they might simply be incompetent (or is far too sophisticated a forum for me to participate in :) ). I highly doubt that any forum like that will get very far when its participants are anonymous. The conversation that I plan to mount will not have anonymous participants.

I had made posts in forums where I had seen my work discussed for years, but it rarely went well (almost invariably, people would attack me). I hoped that ATS would be a place where subject matter like mine would not quite be so mind-blowing. To a degree, that was true, but trolls also infested the place. I began several threads designed to explore the very topics that I am exploring here at Avalon, and put the trolls on “ignore,” but others began fighting them (known as “feeding the troll”), and the threads eventually strayed far from my intention, with troll fights, naïve engineers who just had to touch an FE machine in action before they would admit that they were possible, and so on. It has been difficult enough to keep this thread centered on my intentions without trolls having a field day.

At ATS, a New Agey dude joined and offered me my own forum, and I posted to it. However, anybody could join, and Mr. Skeptic showed up within weeks. Not long afterward, the New Agey dude completely wiped out my forum, without even asking me about it. I am not sure what happened, but Mr. Skeptic sprayed his venom wherever he could, and everybody who has featured my work since 1998 soon received a visit from him. I have seen and borne the brunt of his handiwork, and it is pretty creepy. He first tries the affable skeptic routine, and when that does not work, he begins unloading a disinformation bomb, full of obfuscations, twisted logic, and outright lies. When he has been caught in his lies, he never apologizes, but also never quite tells the lie the same way again, and comes up with new lies. That is how disinfo people work. When I demonstrated how “perceptive” his crackpot page was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#crackpots

he quietly removed the more egregious entries that I dissected. When his Skeptical Inquirer article on Dennis was easily exposed as libelous:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

he abandoned that particular instance of outright lying and began his disinformation pitch a little differently, without ever acknowledging that he previously knowingly lied about Dennis:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Dennis_Lee#Skeptics

and all the things that he says that Dennis never discloses, in that post at the link above, are among Mr. Skeptic’s new lies. Mr. Skeptic can be counted on to spin it as darkly as he can, and although he begins his post by saying that he has read Dennis’s books, he turns around and lies outright when he says that Dennis does not mention Bo Gritz, the bounced checks, the failed card business that reincarnated as the Discover Card, and so on. Dennis discloses all of those events in his books, in pretty good detail. Mr. Skeptic’s approach relies on people being lazy, stupid, and gullible, and it is amazing to watch people fall under his spell, people who should know better.

Mr. Skeptic has stalked me on the Internet since 1998, spewing his disinformation wherever I went. He sometimes showed up the same day that I appeared. Because Internet forums come and go without a trace, few of his attacks are viewable today (he mounted a particularly disgusting attack at Guerilla News Network around 2002), but one of his more polite versions has survived:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/353778.shtml#251272

I was at ATS for several months, and Mr. Skeptic never joined the party, but appeared at that New Agey forum right after I joined it during that same time period. Either he knew that the ATS trolls would do his work for him, or he actually worked with them. It is hard to say which one was the case, but I suspect the latter. That persistent ATS troll seemed like a professional, and more than one person may have been doing it; his first posts were rather infantile, but they became more sophisticated later.

So, after I was banned at ATS, I decided that open Internet forums could not successfully host conversations led by people like me, and I decided that when I got the energy essay completed, I would have to mount my own invitation-only forum. So, it was a very pleasant surprise that Bill came to the same conclusion that I did about all-comers forums and began this forum. My participation in other forums could be considered practice for this one.

Hi Robert:

I have already mentioned that I keep turning down opportunities to be on TV. I have also turned down opportunities to do cartoons and other media. While I like cartoons (and I have enjoyed a few RSAnimate presentations before), what I am trying to do on the FE front is aiming way higher than cartoons, slogans, T-shirts and the like. Dennis did stuff like that at times, and that shoots pretty low, IMO. I am trying to aim high. It is like I said before; the mass media creates an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep.

While I appreciate you thinking about RSAnimate to get out the FE idea, I am trying to use Avalon and the Internet in ways that there does not need to be money changing hands. When money gets involved, the peril leaps up an order of magnitude or two, and this cloistered environment at Avalon can give people a false sense of security. Godzilla is watching, and many people, both on Godzilla’s payroll and free-lancing, would love to wreck what I am doing, and one of the easiest ways to take me out is to have money-raising somehow connected with what I am doing. I have never solicited money for my efforts, and don’t plan to. Raising money to do cartoons is not what I am about, that is for sure. For trying to play the mass media game with FE, we’ll see how Thrive does.

Best,

Wade

Thank you Wade for taking the time out of your busy schedule to answer my question so promptly. I really appreciate it. I have just started reading some of your posts and they are amazing! I am learning so much. Thanks again!
Best regards to you and for your work

[shamanseeker]

Hello Ulli! Thank you for answering my question. Really appreciate it :)

[shamanseeker]

im completely done with the hour long conversations about career, relationships, gossip, tv etc that most people i encounter go on with so ive decided im taking control of the conversation at least until i have mentioned FE and living in abundance........sure why not? ive had some success too but i must say that alot of people are put off by the sheer volume of info contained in Wades site and just dont have the time to read it all......thats why something like this 'thrive' documentary will be nice to pass on to them....its a different angle and may serve as an excellent complement to Wades' material......

Hello Tyler! I'n an English teacher in Italy and so have the possibility of speaking a lot to people about my 'awakening' and I was amazed at how many people were interested and would even ask me questions to get me talking about these things some more during lessons. I wonder sometimes if the people who are sent or come to me for lessons are being sent by the universe or whatever you want to call it because most of them are really interested :) Any way, in answer to what you say about the fact that some people are put off by the sheer volume of Wade's material, I remember seeing his interview on Project Camelot some time ago and going into his site and not reading anything for the same reason. Well, I realize now that I just wasn't ready then. I am now and am reading it avidly. The same could be the case with the people you talk to. Maybe, they aren't ready yet but it's possible that they'll go and read it later. I find the thing that really intrigues people and makes them listen at first is when I tell them about the fact that all our royalty and leaders are related and that they are in those positions because of their "birthright". That really makes then sit up and listen :-)
Enjoyed reading your note!
Thanks!

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Hi Wade. Mr. Skeptic's name was Eric Krieg? I followed a link you gave and saw his post.
There was a discussion here about names being connected with one's profession, or being.
"Krieg" is the German word for war...as in Blitzkrieg, etc.
Anyway, when a person has that kind of a name, watch out. I would have avoided him, too.
Maybe I might have countered the accusation of avoidance with:
"Change your name to Fried, (peace) and I might be willing to dialogue."
There are no coincidences, especially when it comes to names.

Hi ulli, did you notice my question below your post (it was adressed to Robert)

[ulli]

Hi ulli, did you notice my question below your post (it was adressed to Robert)

The question about "kriegen" meaning "to get"... Yes, that's what it means.
That's what it means to go to war; going after something. Large scale theft.

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Hi ulli, did you notice my question below your post (it was adressed to Robert)

The question about "kriegen" meaning "to get"... Yes, that's what it means.
That's what it means to go to war; going after something. Large scale theft.

That's what i thought! Interesting-the origin of words. Also great sync with the "gun in a knot" monument meaning the opposite from war! I wonder what the female name Gun in Swedish means...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Shamanseeker:

My real apprenticeship in this stuff was with Dennis, but that was after being raised around some Teslas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

having my mystical awakening

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

and other preparatory events:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

I interacted with thousands of people on the FE issue when I was with Dennis. It was a far different crowd than I interact with today. Back then, it was just somebody walking down the street that had the “misfortune” of encountering us. :) Before our first “Greatest Energy Show on Earth,” Dennis and I had a booth at a home show convention, the kind where hundreds of booths are in an airplane-hangar-like convention center. Dennis played carny barker, as we played a video and handed out invitations to the show. That was about the happiest and most innocent time of my life.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ltpc

About thirty-five people attended that first show. In the next year, we put on several of those shows, getting up to several hundred a show, before they lowered the boom on us in Ventura. After Dennis got out of jail the first time, he eventually held a conference in Las Vegas that I attended, as he played the Madison Avenue game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal

When he got out of prison and began doing national tours in 1996, I was surprised to see hundreds of people at the show that he had in Columbus, where I lived at the time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#introduction

He did two national tours that year, ending with putting five thousand people into a sports stadium in Philadelphia, to talk about FE and related technologies. There has not been another gathering like that in world history, before or since. Dennis finally got me to go back to work with him after that show, and it turns out that we were being set up that time by an elaborate sting operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

I could write for days on how my perceptions changed over the many years of playing those games. I could spend days writing about “faith,” how to launch businesses from nothing, how to market disruptive technology to the public, and so on. When I lived with Dennis and his family in Boston,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

and our FE dreams were nothing more than a gleam in our eyes, we thought that people would finally find something to believe in, something that could have an immensely positive impact on their lives. Dennis believed that people really cared, but had nothing to care about. When I went back with him ten years later, he admitted that almost nobody really cared, but he sifted through the mine tailings of humanity, looking for gold nuggets. He is a better man than I am. I have never met or heard of anybody like him.

But, as I saw the kinds of people attracted to what Dennis was doing, I slowly came to realize that almost nobody was there for what it could mean for humanity and Mother Earth, but were there for what it could mean to their lives. When I witnessed around twenty attempts to steal Dennis’s companies, some of which were likely Godzilla-inspired, I began wising up to how the world really worked.

When I staggered out of Ventura and began the research that eventually became my site, it was kind of like how I studied mystical material when I was a teenager:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#aquarian

or when I read archeology and paleontology books and hunted for fossils when I was eight:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

I did it because I had a deep desire to know. Learning was fun. I did not do it because I could profit from it in any worldly way; I did it because I am a learning junkie. The material that I studied since 1990 was rarely the fun kind of material, and sometimes the study took a lot out of me and even jeopardized my marriage, such as when I studied WWII:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#introduction

I eventually learned that I was a comprehensivist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

What I have to teach is deep stuff. That is partly because I came to realize that until people went deep, their superficial understanding could not really see the big picture. And until more of us saw the big picture, we were not going to go anywhere. I also saw how Dennis was up against society’s shepherd, and society’s shepherd was the master of the game. You can’t out-herd the master who calls the flock his. That was one of the most important lessons that I learned. I eventually took the path that I am on now, with an NEM

http://www.newenergymovement.org/

and other stops along the way. Brian O’s perspective was the closest to mine that I saw, but we took different paths to get there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

Brian was still trying to engage the masses until the end, and I was trying to do something different. I smile when I think of my 1996 site. I had eighty-page essays with no bookmarks, links or anything to ease the reader’s navigation. After hearing complaints on how long it was, I put in those “index links” at the top of each essay, trying to keep each section below ten pages. Then, after I finished my site in 2002, and still heard complaints about how deep and overwhelming it was, I then began to write those shorter essays that you can see at the top of my home page:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#activist

That was my nod to making my work a little easier to digest. Still, until people did the whole nine yards, they were not going to develop the deep perspectives needed to make a difference in the FE game. I began doing interviews a few years ago, as another nod to making it a little more accessible,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews

but I really don’t want to go much further than that. I keep turning down opportunities to be on TV, mount “mass movement” kinds of efforts, and so on. Several years ago, the germ of the energy essay that I am working on took shape. I realized that one of the biggest problems was that almost nobody ever saw the big picture. I think that it was because almost nobody wanted to, but also I saw that most of my readers were scientifically illiterate, and FE to them was some kind of fad or some strange obsession of mine or a “conspiracy theory” and so on. They did not understand that energy is the ballgame on Earth. They had almost no understanding of how the world really worked, in a very nuts-and-bolts way. I saw so-called progressives fall under the spell of people like Heinberg:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

or they believed that biofuels, windmills, solar panels, hydrogen cars and the like are some kind of viable solution to humanity’s energy situation. I could see that without some kind of scientific understanding of how the world really worked, people could not keep their eye on the ball, but got distracted by all the sideshows, and there are a million of them. When people first begin to encounter this stuff, many end up in “conspiracy theory alley” and never leave, or disappear into the many other rabbit holes that really mean nothing, as far as solving our problems go. Those who think like victims want to blame it all on the government, the hyper-elites, and so on. What I learned the hard way during my years with Dennis is that the enemy is us. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, and that is the root problem that we face:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

That should be good news, because that is something that we can all do something about, and it starts with each of us. But looking into a mirror to see the root of our problems is certainly not “popular” with the masses, who are mainly interested in temporarily sating their various addictions, as they live their lives of quiet desperation. But, I came to realize that the only people with a prayer of making a difference, especially in a field that Godzilla watches more closely than any other, were those who went deep, and who had some experience in the real world - not necessarily FE, because few survive those adventures, but something that opened their eyes a little to the Big Lies of our scarcity-based indoctrination.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I try to point people at those experiences and fields of study:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and people like Ilie are doing the work. At this time, I can’t ask for anything more. Maybe something like Thrive will open a few more eyes, but for the FE game, it has to be a lot more than just having an eye-opener of a movie. People have to go deep if they are going to be any use in this field. And my work is intended for those relative few. Good luck with taking control of the conversations that you have in life, Shamanseeker. These days, you may find more fertile ground than ever, as our systems begin to collapse, but only those with tough skin can play that game for long.

I gotta run off to work, and I’ll probably write more on this later.

Best,

Wade

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Hi ulli, did you notice my question below your post (it was adressed to Robert)

The question about "kriegen" meaning "to get"... Yes, that's what it means.
That's what it means to go to war; going after something. Large scale theft.

That's what i thought! Interesting-the origin of words. Also great sync with the "gun in a knot" monument meaning the opposite from war! I wonder what the female name Gun in Swedish means...

Answering my own post I don't want to derail this thread but can't resist adding that the Swedish name "Gun" actually means: BATTLE! It's from the Nordic myth and Gunn was the one deciding who should die on the battlefield.

This was referring to the post where i commented on Roberts avatar: the gun with the knot...excuse me for ranting about my strange synchronistic experiences :offtopic:

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I have wrestled with doing this, and I am not sure if I am going to do it again, but I am going to give a little preview of my energy essay. I have been working on it lately. When I write my essays, they go through several rounds of editing before they are published, so that what is below may look a lot different than what ends up being published, but here is the outline of my essay, and a little bit of the writing that I have done on it. I have been researching this essay for the past several years, and in my office are several stacks of books that I have read during those years, which will support much of what the essay will be about. The subjects studied have included: energy and the human journey, including human impacts on Earth’s ecosystems; anthropology, both physical and cultural, including ape studies; evolution, including molecular biology; geophysics, including cosmology; history and sociology, with an emphasis on economics and the history of science. And I read ceaselessly on current events. Of course, the below is filled with links in my draft, and the essay will be heavily footnoted, and this one will also have a fair number of illustrations.

I hope to have that essay published in 2012. First, I have a pretty ambitious essay to write about Brian O, which I plan to finish this year, and it looks like Avalon posts will be a part of my writing life for the foreseeable future. I am beginning to see early signs that the choir may be beginning to form:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=314549&viewfull=1#post314549

So, without further ado, here is part of my upcoming essay, to give you a flavor of what is ahead. We’ll see what those sections look like in a year, if the sections even survive.

Energy and the Human Journey: Where We Have Been; Where We Can Go


Wade Frazier
December 20XX

Introduction and Summary
This Story will not Tell the Whole Story
Energy and the Modern World
Energy and Matter
The Composition and Geology of Earth
Energy, Chemistry, and Life
The Evolutionary Journey
The Pre-Domestication Political Economy
The Pre-Industrial Political Economy
The Industrial-Era Political Economy
Today’s Global Political Economy
Free Energy and an Abundance-Based Political Economy


Introduction and Summary

Energy has always been the key ingredient for life on Earth. Energy has always been the root of the human journey and is almost entirely responsible for the high standard of living that industrialized nations enjoy today. Technologies exist today that can bring energy abundance to all Earthly humans and help heal the environment at the same time. However, the people manipulating the world economy have been actively preventing those technologies from becoming publicly available, and through its collective inertia, humanity has been their unwitting accomplice and victim. If only a tiny fraction of humanity became aware of that situation and had a collective productive response to it, it could be the catalyst needed to bring an abundance-based economic reality to humanity – something that has yet to be seen in human history. Its impact would dwarf humanity’s previous epochal revolutions (super-predator, domestication, industrial).

The dynamics of why those technologies are not publicly available can seem complex but are easily summarized: the global controllers’ (GCs) collective efforts have been more effective than the remaining 99.999+% of humanity’s collective efforts. People will not encounter the GCs while living “normal” lives. The GCs only become visible to those mounting a significant alternative energy or similar global-control-threatening effort. I was a member of one of those efforts, so this essay is written more as an experienced activist, not as an analyst or theorist.

This essay is partly written to help the non-scientifically-trained understand why the energy issue is so important. Until the energy issue is resolved, the rest of humanity’s activities will probably not matter much.


This Story will not Tell the Whole Story

The following account of energy and the human journey hews fairly closely to the orthodox perspective for much of it. However, there will be limitations in the following narrative, and some of them follow.

Perhaps most significantly, advanced technologies already exist on Earth, including free energy and anti-gravity. The public will not get the benefit of those technologies for now. Other exotic technologies developed in the above-top-secret world make the physics textbooks look like cave drawings, but this essay will lay most of that aside for now, other than to note that one of Einstein’s protégés, David Bohm, not only developed what could be considered a viable unified field theory, but Bohm also theorized that space is anything but empty. Einstein also stated that his general theory of relativity resurrected the idea of an ether that his special theory of relativity supposedly rendered obsolete. The energy existing in the ether is computed to be great enough that it contains more energy in a cubic centimeter of it than is considered to be contained in all the mass in the known universe.

But, black projects and “leading edge” theory aside (theory that is far older than I am), technologies have been publicly available for many years that upend some of science’s oldest theories. The microscopes of Royal Rife and Gaston Naessens are older than I am, and those microscopes attain optical resolutions considered “impossible” by today’s optical theory, which hails all the way back to Isaac Newton. While the AMA did its best to wipe out Rife’s work, micrographs survive that prove that Rife scope’s attained their “impossible” resolutions. Naessens is still around in 2011, with his scopes available to any scientist with the courage to look through the lens. If attaining such “impossible” resolutions were all that those microscopes did, that would be plenty, but those microscopes were the primary instruments used by their inventors to investigate life processes at greater resolutions than any electron microscope or other establishment microscope can attain. They both independently confirmed the findings of one of Louis Pasteur’s contemporaries, Antoine Béchamp, whose research pointed to a very different dynamic of life processes than Pasteur’s germ theory, which may have been a poorly understood plagiarism of Béchamp’s work. The findings of those microscopes led to, among other things, cancer treatments that are harmless, cheap and effective, but Morris Fishbein and the AMA wiped Rife out, and Naessens has been treated similarly. I know of no more stunning and public example of vested economic interests wiping out scientific advances than the tale of Béchamp, Rife and Naessens. So, “white science” (peer-reviewed establishment science) has great deficiencies, especially when its pursuit conflicts with deeply-entrenched economic interests. There is no such thing as “pure science.”

With the limitations of establishment science acknowledged, the greatest physicists were also highly aware that physics really did not deal with the real world very effectively. They were keenly aware of the limitations of their discipline, and they were all, to one extent or another, mystics. So, if textbook physics falls far short of explaining reality, what can it say within its framework that is useful? Plenty. We sent men to the moon on Newton’s physics. The joke on the astronauts risking their lives, and those working with them, was that anti-gravity and advanced propulsion technology has been around since before NASA was formed.

Also, although the greatest physicists were largely mystics, they did not explore the nature of consciousness in the way that today’s human potential courses have. I had it demonstrated, very dramatically, when I was sixteen years old, that everybody has inherent psychic abilities. Millions of people who took such courses had similar experiences. They are usually life-changing events, available to anybody who takes the time to have them, but establishment science, led by organized “skepticism” has waged a holy war against such evidence for longer than I have been alive.

We know hardly anything about how the universe really works or what is in it, much less what lies beyond this dimension. With those limitations acknowledged, this essay will explore the journey of life and humanity on Earth, and energy’s role in it.


Energy and the Modern World

There are greater contrasts in humanity’s collective standard of living than ever before. Bill Gates topped the list of the world’s richest people for fourteen of the fifteen years since 1995. In 2000, his net worth was about $100 billion, or about the same as the collective wealth of the poorest hundred million Americans or the poorest half of humanity. Even though Gates and other high-technology billionaires can live surprisingly egalitarian lifestyles, for one person to possess the same level of wealth as billions of people collectively do is a recent phenomenon. In 2011, about thirty thousand children died each day because of their impoverished conditions.

Ever since I was thrust into an urban hell soon after graduating from college, I became a student of wealth, poverty and humanity’s problems. My teenage dreams of changing humanity’s energy paradigm have had a lifelong impact. I would not appreciate until many years later that energy literally runs the world and always has, and a good demonstration of that fact is to consider the average day of an average American professional, which is history’s most privileged demographic group. A typical winter’s day in my life can serve as an example.

When I work twelve-hour days and longer during the winter season, which is the busiest time of my year, I often fast and need less sleep, so I often awaken before 4:00 A.M. In 2011 as I write this, I live in a fairly large house. When I fast, my body generates less heat so I get cold rather easily; I wear thermal underwear under my work attire and have other strategies for staying warm, especially in the winter. Heating the entire house is expensive when I am up alone, so I have rigged a space heater in my office that comes on by timer at 3:00 A.M., so that when I get up I can work in a heated room.

My first tasks when arising are turning on my computer and drinking a glass of orange juice, which raises my blood sugar. After some hours of reading about world’s events, answering emails and working on my website, I take a hot shower, dress and walk to a bus stop. Before I leave, I turn on my home’s central heating system, so my wife awakens to a warm house. I read a book while awaiting the bus. I ride that bus on the freeway to downtown Bellevue, where I work in a high-rise office building for an Internet company.

When I arrive at my office, I turn on my lights and computer. When I am eating, I put the food that I brought to work in the refrigerator under my desk. During my work day, I interact with many people in my air-conditioned, high-technology office environment. My cell phone is never far away. The view from my office window of the Cascade Mountains is pleasant. My computer interfaces with our distant data centers and the outside world via the Internet. When my work day is finished, I ride the bus home. In the winter, the first thing that we do when arriving at home is turning on the central heater and our bed heater. In the evening, I might watch a movie on a DVD with my wife on our wide-screen plasma TV. When it is not winter, I putter around in my yard and attend to my garden. When I am not fasting, I usually eat dinner, with food from my refrigerator, usually purchased at a cooperative grocery store that has an enormous produce section, with food grown locally and imported from as far away as South America, China and Israel (I am not happy about the Israeli produce and won’t buy it – Palestinians probably lived on that farm land before they were forcibly evicted for Jewish “settlers”). We have a high-tech kitchen, with a “smart” stove and refrigerator, and other appliances.

When I resumed my career in 2003, I became an early riser and consequently go to bed by 9:00 PM on most nights, and often read fantasy literature before I turn out the lights and snuggle into bed with at least two comforters to keep us warm as we sleep.

That is a typical day. During that day, around eighty times the calories that fueled my body were burned to support my activities. Those dying children often succumbed to hunger, and the energy that supported their lives was less than 1% of what I enjoy each day. How did energy serve each of my daily activities? How did that disparity between me and the dying children come to be? This essay will explore those issues and propose solutions that are already here, today, which cannot only ameliorate the condition of those impoverished children, but make all human lives resemble those lived by the characters in a Star Trek episode. We can all live lives of abundance that are scarcely imaginable today. Whether we do is up to us.

Notes:

In Einstein’s “Sidelights on Relativity,” a speech delivered on May 5th, 1920, at the University of Leyden, Einstein finished with: “Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical properties; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether.”

There are many places on the Internet that discuss this issue, such as here.

“Black projects” are efforts that the public is not officially aware of, engaged in by various “nationals security” organizations, some large “aerospace” companies and other private interests, some of which the public has never heard of.

[ThePythonicCow]

one of Einstein’s protégés, David Bohm, not only developed what could be considered a viable unified field theory, but Bohm also theorized that space is anything but empty.
From page 3 of Paul LaViolette's Subquantum Kinetics (http://www.etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/Book-SQK.html):

Modern era physicists such as Dirac, de Broglie, Bohm and Vigier have all advocated the idea of a subquantum medium

I highly recommend LaViolette's works. Thanks to him, I have completely changed, from the smallest to the largest scales, my understanding of the physics and cosmology of the universe. The standard physics that I knew for a half century provides no basis for free energy and anti-gravity. The work of LaViolette, following in the tradition of such as David Bohm, provide a firm basis for understanding free energy and anti-gravity.

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Thanks Wade i will follow this with big interest!

As i started to read your thread i was jumping around the headlines and happened to choose the very one with the story about Béchamp and Naessens and cancer treatment. (My mothers ancestors were French and Corsican) I actually have a water ionizer with properties as high PH levels and microclustering that prevents cancer from even appearing in the first place. There's only this one company approved by the Japanese health authorities, and has been used in Japanese hospitals since the 60:ies. Since some years now the technique is available for personal use and is spreading around the world.

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[Ilie Pandia]

Reading this preview I just remembered that, what we were taught in school as "science fact", it was back then a "theory". And even the originator of the theory was very aware that it's just a theory, and that it has its flaws and that it does not answer all the questions! Not only that, but alongside Einstein for example, were plenty other with alternative theories. You don't hear about those, unless you purposefully research them. This only goes to say the the "white since" is only a narrow, generally accepted view, about our reality.

I must give some credit to my physics teacher, who told us with a mysterious attitude that a lot "physics science" has been suppressed or "destroyed" :biggrin:

[David Hughes]

Thanks Shamanseeker. I'm also teaching abroad. I have free reign to teach whatever subject matter that i want - once its in English.

I've learned that its very important not to force feed this stuff to people. As Wade mentioned previously, people have to want to learn. I try and stimulate their curiosity, and try to make this stuff real and relevant to them before going into the finer details.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Paul:

Thanks. I will add LaViolette's book to my stack on alternative physics. In that essay, I am not going to venture much further into FE physics than I just did in that preview. One of the differences between Brian O’s approach and mine was that Brian tried to make FE scientifically respectable and, when he was early in the game, he would get into Maxwell and the ZPF and the rudiments of how the FE devices that he was familiar with worked. He soon realized that it was a losing approach, especially for the audience that he was trying to connect with. One of Brian’s favorite sayings on the subject was that the FE prototypes that he was aware of were like the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk, and that we are a ways away from the United Airlines level of the FE game. My approach is, “I don’t care what the theories of FE physics are, those close to me have seen FE devices in action, and plenty more, but unless you play at the life-risking level of attracting the Global Controllers’ attention with your disruptive technology efforts, you are not going to get the chance to witness it. While FE inventors are trying to coax Kitty Hawk demonstrations out of their devices, the Global Controllers zoom around in their starships.”

Long ago, I decided to “specialize” in the political-economic aspects of the FE conundrum, because I saw that that was where the problem was, not a lack of technology. Paradoxically, the FE conundrum is not about FE physics and FE gizmos all that much. Brian O eventually came to realize it, too. The problems are really political-economic, social and, ultimately, spiritual. It was late in the game that I discovered that what I was doing was what Bucky Fuller did, playing the comprehensivist game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

My essay will be more about how the energy issue has shaped life on Earth and the human journey, and what virtually unlimited, clean energy can do for the human journey and potential.

Hi transiten:

Good luck on the health, and happy reading.

Hi Ilie:

Yes, Tesla proposed counter-theories to virtually all of Einstein’s, for instance. Yes, many of the founding theorists must be rolling in their graves to know how their theories (which were usually radical fringe theories that were widely derided when they made them) eventually became dogma.

Hi Tyler:

Sorry to make you wait. :) Although the essay has been gestating for several years, and I trust the process, finding the time to get it done is that hard part. I have way too many balls in the air, dealing with health issues, and all that fun.

On the global economy, of yes, it is precarious. I for one do not want to see it tank to the bottom, but it could. I see that it has been two years since I updated my writings on the subject:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#over

Maybe I will do one before the year is out.

Best,

Wade

[ThePythonicCow]

He soon realized that it was a losing approach, especially for the audience that he was trying to connect with.
Yes, exactly.

My mind works from foundational theory upward ... it did that in math, in physics and in computers. It even tried that in marriage (probably one of the reasons I'm no longer married ;).)

But I'm a bit of an odd ball in that regard. Carry on - you're doing great.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Great essay Wade,

Can hardly wait for the rest. My hats off to you.

Illie,
Reading this preview I just remembered that, what we were taught in school as "science fact", it was back then a "theory". And even the originator of the theory was very aware that it's just a theory, and that it has its flaws and that it does not answer all the questions! Not only that, but alongside Einstein for example, were plenty other with alternative theories. You don't hear about those, unless you purposefully research them. This only goes to say the the "white since" is only a narrow, generally accepted view, about our reality.


I just read that Cern scientists have confirmed, or perhaps discovered is a better word, that light can indeed travel faster than the accepted constant! By a ful 20 nanoseconds!
So much for scientific dogma. That's why I dropped all mainstream scientific studies almost fifteen years ago. They do not know, and do not care to know that they don't know.

[sandy]

Hi Wade,

Really relieved to hear you restate you approach to the essay's on FE awareness versus the actual technology. Imo the focus is not in fully understanding how FE works but on how it can be released and introduced in a productive, understandable way that the masses can envision as the only real answer to all the problems facing our planet today.

I too love Ilie's thread (little time to fully participate as of late) so thank you for sharing and creating a space for others to enliven an abundance paradygm Ilie :)

I too enjoyed your introduction and summary and can't wait for more. The best thing about your revising or change in rewriting your essays so far, at least to me Wade, is that you have personalized the information. This is a winner as I and others can relate, attach to your words and retain the information because of the emotional connection we make to you the writer. Fantastic learning awaits all those reading!!! Thank you :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

On my health issues…. They are not presently life-threatening. There are some in this forum who are worried that they may get targeted with the kind of stuff that took out those UFO activists back in the late 1990s:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mj12_4_1.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

I have written before that I can be the canary in the coal mine. My health issues are related to a lifetime of stress, not being zapped with psychotronic equipment. If I am not “important” enough for that kind of treatment, nobody here is. Nothing to worry about. I made those Godzilla posts to give people a heads up on what the lower level stuff looks like.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

That is what to be alert to, not getting zapped. Zapping people like that is “expensive” for them to do, because it also kills the equipment operators (although the operators are probably blissfully unaware of that side-effect).

Hi Paul:

I will definitely give some readers a little meat to chew on, but I will largely be referring people to Trombly’s and Sweet’s work, among others. They built working FE devices based on that alternative physics. All I can really do is point people at it. For what I am trying to do, it will be enough to make the point that the energy is there, the denials of white science aside, and some have learned to tap it, at great risk to their lives. At the black science level, they run their coffee makers on FE.

Hi Ernie:

Mainstream versus alternative science is a thorny subject. I call it part of the layman’s quandary:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

the vast majority of the alternative stuff is not valid, either, I am afraid.

Hi Sandy:

My primary intention for the personal stuff is largely to keep the material close to my experience. If I begin playing “scholar” too much, there can be the tendency to get pointy-headed and theoretical, and there is way too much of that out there. Trying to keep it personal yet objective is one the balancing acts that I try for in my work. Over the years, the feedback has been interesting on that facet. Some want to “hear my voice” more, and others less. You certainly hear it more at Avalon than you do on my site. That is also partly why I joined Avalon. But also it is to connect with my readers. Also, making it personal is where the ego can get involved, and I try to avoid that if I can, but we all have one.

In my public participation, if I had not joined Avalon, would Ilie be trying to play the Level 12 game, asking people to simply imagine abundance, and getting the delightful results that are rolling in? For years, especially soon after I completed my site in 2002, I just wanted to have my work out there, and people could interact with it however they wanted. I did my part. But I have also found that even with people like Ilie, who really want to know the truth, I can help in ways that my site cannot. I also discovered that I have to shield myself from the general public. A few hundred years ago, I am the kind of guy who would have been burned at the stake, and I took a lot of heat from the general public when I had a public email address. When my assailants began to become threatening, trying to hit me at home, then it got to be less fun, as you can imagine. Avalon is a good straddle for me right now.

If making it more personal can seat the information better, then that is a good thing. But I am also becoming famous, and I am very ambivalent about that. One reason why I don’t want to be on TV is that I do not want to be recognized on the street. I have already had a “you are famous” moment, where my name was recognized, and I did not like it. My Camelot interview is responsible for that. So, it comes with the territory, but I am cautious in that regard. I liked it when Dennis and Brian were the famous ones, and I was the background guy, playing spear carrier.

On the personal front, I am going to write a little on what I threatened to, before Brian died, about some experiences that shaped my thinking. It will be personal, but it is intended to help the reader make connections from my life to theirs. They can see how my journey shaped me, if for no other reason than it at least makes some of my work more intelligible. Knowing some of the background can be helpful, I think.

Best,

Wade

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Wade, it shows that your approach is very different from that of David Wilcock who is now gaining his "you are famous" moments. In what respect are you more of a target than him? I mean he gets a lot of criticism for having a big ego and promoting himself but doesn't fear the limelight. Of course he hasn't made any discoveries in free energy technology but writes a lot about it.

I can really understand that you don't want to be recognized, i even was afraid mentioning the waterionizer here since most pple i talk to react with indifference or rejection saying the results pple including myself are experiencing can't be true and some don't even want to see the information aka "look into the microscope/telescope."

In "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cacey" Wynn Free says that both Nicola Tesla and Thomas Edison had their discoveries from Edgar Caceys channelings. What's your take on that?

Many thanks from an inquisitive scorpio.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Although I dropped my studies, I still follow scientific advances and news. Of course science is not all wrong, that's clearly obvious just from the world around us.
And alternative science is no better because there is no "consensus" there.
But, there is a way or a "meter" to judge the veracity of any specific "scientific" proposition.
The proper connection to the Heart Center is an unwavering guide to the truth of any proposal, theory or postulate.
Go within, carrying the propasal in the left brain, mix it with right brain understandings on the subject and then "feel". That feeling is almost never wrong.
That was a very poor description of the prossess.

I guess what I am trying to say is: we live in the truth, obviously. We might not understand it and we might have it all wrong in our models, but we nonetheless live in the truth. So, by "tracking" a tidbit of some scientific proposal and seeing if it stays "on the rails", so to speak, is a valid, albiet unverifyable, method to test its validity. The words are convoluted because we have no formal language for this sort of thing. But it does work... IMHO

[Hughe]

Time is ticking.

Who will be the 1st Icarus delivering a practical FE device with sounding principals, ready to be replicated by any individuals on the planet? A lone tinkerer or scientist or organization? Who will be the Wright Brothers?

A small device that keeps a 10W bulb day and night without external source of energy so that people experience the reality of free energy either table-top toy version or small generator.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi transiten:

Your English is not always clear to me, but it seemed like you asked what the difference was between my approach and Wilcock’s. I don’t know much about Wilcock, but I always take with a grain of salt “lofty prior incarnation” claims. There are many tall claims out there with nothing to back it up. The power is in the present, and it is what we do in this life that is important. I have been told that I helped blow up Atlantis, as one of my soul’s “achievements.” :) If so, it helps explain my FE journey, but I don’t look to other lifetimes (and I have glimpsed a few) for any guidance in this one, although the experience of those other lives is kind of “baked into” my awareness at some level. We do learn from our lifetimes. Probably a lot of the learning is along the lines of, “I’ll never do that again!” :)

But, as far as my approach versus any of the New Age talking heads, first and foremost, I played at the high levels of the FE game and we threatened to make an economic impact. That is the greatest threat to Godzilla’s game of all.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

There are a million New Age talking heads out there, and a zillion FE tinkerers in garages. But nobody was putting disruptive energy technology on the market like Dennis was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

He was one of the biggest threats that Godzilla ever had to face, and his treatment reflected it. If somebody said they were Cleopatra or Napoleon or Jesus come again, Godzilla yawns. If somebody said that FE was possible, that is also not much of a threat. Now, some ”just talk” stuff can be threatening, too, such as Greer’s Disclosure Project, so Godzilla had to try to take it out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

And everybody associated with that project realized that the primary reason that the lid is kept in the ET stuff today is to keep the lid on the FE stuff, because they are joined at the hip. That is why Greer is playing the FE game, too. I am aware of recent murder attempts of high level FE players who today mostly “just talk,” so it is not like I am ever going to completely fall off of Godzilla’s radar. I was far more central to the events in Ventura than is presented on my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

and when Mr. Professor and I rescued Dennis from that deep, dark hole that they had him in, and we sacrificed our lives to do so, it caused plenty of consternation in Godzilla’s ranks. When I went back with Dennis again, they raised the bar with an extremely sophisticated sting operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

That kind of treatment is reserved for those really trying to make a dent. Dennis is the target of lying national TV shows that attack him every few years. They don’t do that for just anybody, and there was other attention that I am not at liberty to disclose publicly. Few, if any, of the New Age talking heads, whether they are talking about FE or not, really amount to much of a threat, IMO. Also, I survived the early stage snares, although it was mostly as Dennis’s sidekick. I know the pitfalls:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

and am not going to fall for the easy stuff, and they know that. If they take me out, they know that it will take a little work. I think that I am playing at a level where they only watch, but I could be wrong. But that is not a reason for participants in this thread to get paranoid about getting the psychotronic zapping. They will take me out, first. However, one of their early tactics is to get an infiltrator or two in the ranks to sow their seeds. That is why I made those Godzilla posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

I have watched people get derailed, partly by the lure of “inside information.” Or they dangle cash. I never go for the bait. I really do not care much about what Godzilla is doing. A great deal of the so-called “inside information” is either Godzilla disinfo or somebody pretending to be important.

On Tesla and Edison getting Cayce readings, I have had plenty of readings myself, some from allegedly lofty places in the cosmos. But all they ever do, at most, is provide a little insight and encouragement. I have been around the Teslas and saw how they invented, and have done some myself (at a far more modest level):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash

so would be very skeptical of claims that Cayce was why Tesla played the FE game. I am not taking anything away from Cayce, but I am not going to sell Tesla short.

This Cayce scholar was not too high on Wilcock’s take on Cayce.

http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/article.php?category=6&article=81

There is also a rumor of a Venusian connection with Tesla, etc. I know people who invented like Tesla did, and it was their own internal compass that got them there, although we all obviously have influences in our lives. It is the Creative Moment that made Tesla who he was, not his intellectual brilliance.

Fame is perilous, for several reasons. When I was flying high with Dennis, the spotlight was on him, but I got splashed with it, too. I am an introvert for one thing, so have no talent or interest in playing the “man of the people” game. I like to quietly get in and get out if I can. Also, when you are playing at those levels, all sorts of people make their play, trying to get something from you. I have had to deal with the would-be sycophants, and it is no fun.

Also, even though most people can’t grok the magnitude of FE, not really, they get a whiff that it is far larger than anything that they have ever imagined being involved with, and so I have had family, friends and others fixate on me, trying to get a vicarious sniff of what I have been doing. It almost always turns out badly, by either having them turn on me, as they act from their ego-needs to be a part of something that they really can’t be a part of (“Wade, you have your opinions and I have mine. I demand equal time on the FE subject.”) or I finally tell them that they can’t play, when they keep trying to join the game, and they get their egos bruised. It is like the “prophets have no honor in their hometowns” observation. Because friends and family know me, they tend to think that they can play, too. “After all, it is only Wade. I saw him grow up. If he can do it, so can I.” The family relationships and friendships that have avoided those kinds of issues have largely been with those who treat my FE stuff as some kind of strange hobby that they know I get wound up with if it is discussed, so it is subject matter that they leave alone. That is a sad state of affairs, but it is also normal when you play this game, I am afraid.

Hi Ernie:

My mentor said that when he came up with his big stuff:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

it was like he was possessed. This being would kind of imbue him with its energy and awareness, and out would pop the invention/idea, usually fully-realized. No tinkering needed. He said that it was never wrong. Sometimes, it came to him in a dream, with the answer in his head when he woke up. What was the source of that “creative moment”? Some might call it his higher self. Others might say that it was another entity, but I think it is similar to what you are referring to. I have had it, too, but at a far more modest level than my mentor did. Einstein, Heisenberg and other giants came up with their big stuff in similar fashion. “White science” calls it the “Creative Moment,” which is a pretty lame way to describe it, IMO, but I can understand that rationalist-materialists have a problem with that kind of phenomenon. Only about 1% of the technically trained have much creative insight, the kind that leads to the big stuff. The left brain can spend twenty years “scientifically validating” what came through the right brain in an instant. That part of the process is predictably often discounted to the point of non-existence by “white science.”

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Okay, this isn't Fe but how has this lightbulb managed to stay lit since 1901?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Bulb.JPG

in case pic doesn't show up:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bulb.JPG

Can we move along now?

[Wade Frazier]

Many people have done it, Hughe. That is not the hard part. The hard part is surviving for long after you do. The lone inventor (or small company, or even Fortune 500 company) does not have a prayer in today’s world. The guys flying the starships make sure that when Kitty Hawk demonstrations happen (Sweet, Trombly, etc.), they don’t get a chance to do it again. Most of the good stuff at the tinkerer level you have never heard of. They got the friendly buy-out, the secrecy order, or the quiet snuff job, and we never got to hear about them. There is no worthy group to protect the lone inventor. That is part of the problem.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Ah, Ernie, the Methuselah bulb! :) Never turning off is part of its secret. As you know, the on/off process is where almost all of the stress on a light bulb comes from.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Yeah, I know, I just wanted to post something tangible on the FE front for those who "have to see it to believe it".

Although, a lightbulb that lasts 110 years , no matter what the explanation is quite remarkable in its own right. We now get "chinese bulbs" that last less than two weeks, I know - I've learnt the hard way, because of course my customers blame me for it and I have to replace them free of charge ($7+ a pop!). Now I refuse to install those bulbs without a disclaimer up front.

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Thanks Wade for your lenghty response!

Yes english apparently is not my first language. I just told pple i have to take a rest from all this and i'm off to my allotment, sun is shining for the first time in weeks and now i get another hit to my co-dependency pattern since i've been very involved with David Wilcocks work and am at the moment reading The Source Field Investigations. I am a singer/songwriter like Wynn Free and an astrologer with a background as teacher in music/french but have been told i had a former life in Atlantis and at the time of Nostradamus so even if i don't have any technical knowledge at all, i'm extremely drawn to these matters. My father is a recording engineer, now 90 years old and the only one i can talk to about free eneregy, UFO:logy and spirituality combined.

I'm constantly thrown between believeing it all/disbelieving it all and that's the big challenge isn't it? To be able to contain both the light and the dark, the paradoxes within and not project the darkness onto others. I'm going to read what you posted here but at the moment i'm experiencing post traumatic stress from having been brainwashed by a guru 25 years ago and been into several destructive relationships. Now i feel like i've repeated the pattern by brainwashing myself with believing too much in the writings of David Wilcock and a synchronicity is that i just answered Ernie on this very topic and now he posted just before me.

The FREE ENERGY applies both to the material and psychological/spiritual dimensions. How do we keep our spirits energetically free? Now I'm going to get some free energy from The Sun and come back to your work in "small portions".

My father just called and told me that he heared on the radio that they are able to "light up" the cancercells. I just told him about your work and about the French researcher Naessens who was chased off to Corse with his cancertreatment. Well as i already said, my mother was french and her relatives from Corse. I tend to mix personal with universal and not divide it into "differnet"..."differ net", that's funny, i'll keep it like that... threads with the risk being seen as too "self-involved".

To every thing turn turn turn, there is a season turn turn turn, and a time for every purpose under heaven.

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Hello Ernie!

My father is extremely interested in lightbulbs and all other technical things. He is now 90 and when he was 13 he had a book about Thomas Alva Edison for birthday present. They are both Aquarians. My father and i don't like the new "energy light bulbs" though since they contain a lot of mercury.

transiten finally off to the best light bulb on earth THE SUN;)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi transiten:

Get some sun. The best antidote for falling prey to cults and gurus is to find your inner light. Deep inside you are the answers that you seek. Nobody can really give them to you. You have to find them on your own. Teachers can help, but really, all they can say is that they may have been further down the path and can tell you what they found, but it is up to each of us to walk our path. That is not to say that channelings and teachings and gurus don’t have their place, but none are worth fixating on. When any worthy teaching is fixated on, then the pupil misses the meaning. And in the New Age arena, there is a ton of chaff for every kernel of wheat, just like in any field! :)

Best,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Hi Shamanseeker:

My real apprenticeship in this stuff was with Dennis, but that was after being raised around some Teslas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

having my mystical awakening

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

and other preparatory events:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

I interacted with thousands of people on the FE issue when I was with Dennis. It was a far different crowd than I interact with today. Back then, it was just somebody walking down the street that had the “misfortune” of encountering us. :) Before our first “Greatest Energy Show on Earth,” Dennis and I had a booth at a home show convention, the kind where hundreds of booths are in an airplane-hangar-like convention center. Dennis played carny barker, as we played a video and handed out invitations to the show. That was about the happiest and most innocent time of my life.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ltpc

About thirty-five people attended that first show. In the next year, we put on several of those shows, getting up to several hundred a show, before they lowered the boom on us in Ventura. After Dennis got out of jail the first time, he eventually held a conference in Las Vegas that I attended, as he played the Madison Avenue game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal

When he got out of prison and began doing national tours in 1996, I was surprised to see hundreds of people at the show that he had in Columbus, where I lived at the time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#introduction

He did two national tours that year, ending with putting five thousand people into a sports stadium in Philadelphia, to talk about FE and related technologies. There has not been another gathering like that in world history, before or since. Dennis finally got me to go back to work with him after that show, and it turns out that we were being set up that time by an elaborate sting operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

I could write for days on how my perceptions changed over the many years of playing those games. I could spend days writing about “faith,” how to launch businesses from nothing, how to market disruptive technology to the public, and so on. When I lived with Dennis and his family in Boston,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

and our FE dreams were nothing more than a gleam in our eyes, we thought that people would finally find something to believe in, something that could have an immensely positive impact on their lives. Dennis believed that people really cared, but had nothing to care about. When I went back with him ten years later, he admitted that almost nobody really cared, but he sifted through the mine tailings of humanity, looking for gold nuggets. He is a better man than I am. I have never met or heard of anybody like him.

But, as I saw the kinds of people attracted to what Dennis was doing, I slowly came to realize that almost nobody was there for what it could mean for humanity and Mother Earth, but were there for what it could mean to their lives. When I witnessed around twenty attempts to steal Dennis’s companies, some of which were likely Godzilla-inspired, I began wising up to how the world really worked.

When I staggered out of Ventura and began the research that eventually became my site, it was kind of like how I studied mystical material when I was a teenager:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#aquarian

or when I read archeology and paleontology books and hunted for fossils when I was eight:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

I did it because I had a deep desire to know. Learning was fun. I did not do it because I could profit from it in any worldly way; I did it because I am a learning junkie. The material that I studied since 1990 was rarely the fun kind of material, and sometimes the study took a lot out of me and even jeopardized my marriage, such as when I studied WWII:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#introduction

I eventually learned that I was a comprehensivist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

What I have to teach is deep stuff. That is partly because I came to realize that until people went deep, their superficial understanding could not really see the big picture. And until more of us saw the big picture, we were not going to go anywhere. I also saw how Dennis was up against society’s shepherd, and society’s shepherd was the master of the game. You can’t out-herd the master who calls the flock his. That was one of the most important lessons that I learned. I eventually took the path that I am on now, with an NEM

http://www.newenergymovement.org/

and other stops along the way. Brian O’s perspective was the closest to mine that I saw, but we took different paths to get there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

Brian was still trying to engage the masses until the end, and I was trying to do something different. I smile when I think of my 1996 site. I had eighty-page essays with no bookmarks, links or anything to ease the reader’s navigation. After hearing complaints on how long it was, I put in those “index links” at the top of each essay, trying to keep each section below ten pages. Then, after I finished my site in 2002, and still heard complaints about how deep and overwhelming it was, I then began to write those shorter essays that you can see at the top of my home page:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#activist

That was my nod to making my work a little easier to digest. Still, until people did the whole nine yards, they were not going to develop the deep perspectives needed to make a difference in the FE game. I began doing interviews a few years ago, as another nod to making it a little more accessible,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews

but I really don’t want to go much further than that. I keep turning down opportunities to be on TV, mount “mass movement” kinds of efforts, and so on. Several years ago, the germ of the energy essay that I am working on took shape. I realized that one of the biggest problems was that almost nobody ever saw the big picture. I think that it was because almost nobody wanted to, but also I saw that most of my readers were scientifically illiterate, and FE to them was some kind of fad or some strange obsession of mine or a “conspiracy theory” and so on. They did not understand that energy is the ballgame on Earth. They had almost no understanding of how the world really worked, in a very nuts-and-bolts way. I saw so-called progressives fall under the spell of people like Heinberg:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

or they believed that biofuels, windmills, solar panels, hydrogen cars and the like are some kind of viable solution to humanity’s energy situation. I could see that without some kind of scientific understanding of how the world really worked, people could not keep their eye on the ball, but got distracted by all the sideshows, and there are a million of them. When people first begin to encounter this stuff, many end up in “conspiracy theory alley” and never leave, or disappear into the many other rabbit holes that really mean nothing, as far as solving our problems go. Those who think like victims want to blame it all on the government, the hyper-elites, and so on. What I learned the hard way during my years with Dennis is that the enemy is us. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, and that is the root problem that we face:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

That should be good news, because that is something that we can all do something about, and it starts with each of us. But looking into a mirror to see the root of our problems is certainly not “popular” with the masses, who are mainly interested in temporarily sating their various addictions, as they live their lives of quiet desperation. But, I came to realize that the only people with a prayer of making a difference, especially in a field that Godzilla watches more closely than any other, were those who went deep, and who had some experience in the real world - not necessarily FE, because few survive those adventures, but something that opened their eyes a little to the Big Lies of our scarcity-based indoctrination.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I try to point people at those experiences and fields of study:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and people like Ilie are doing the work. At this time, I can’t ask for anything more. Maybe something like Thrive will open a few more eyes, but for the FE game, it has to be a lot more than just having an eye-opener of a movie. People have to go deep if they are going to be any use in this field. And my work is intended for those relative few. Good luck with taking control of the conversations that you have in life, Shamanseeker. These days, you may find more fertile ground than ever, as our systems begin to collapse, but only those with tough skin can play that game for long.

I gotta run off to work, and I’ll probably write more on this later.

Best,

Wade

Hello Wade, Thank you so much for your reply. I have read a lot of the links but still have more to read. I have to admit I know next-to-nothing about science. I remember one year at school getting 30% for physics, chemistry and maths to the horror of my teachers: I was not stupid - I was getting 80 or 90% for the arts subjects. I just wasn't interested in science and maths, maybe also because they were taught so badly in my girls-only school. I remember, however, the sick feeling I would get in my stomach even as a small girl when people spoke about cutting down trees, culling animals, etc.
You're right though that you need people with a deep understanding of what you are doing who also have integrity. I know what you are saying about you and Dennis is true because I'm familiar with the modus operandi of these people. I worked for a big British engineering company in the 80s on a big international project. (I was not an engineer but the project secretary - personal assistant to the Project Manager) When I refused to compromise my principles, let's say, I was the victim first of a mobbing campaign, was made redundant and put on a black list and was never able to work in London again. (All the engineers were freemasons) That's why I'm teaching English in Italy. (As you can imagine I was pretty depressed for a while but this was the beginning of my awakening and am glad it happened now). I do hope you find the people you need with a deep understanding of your subject with integrity and who will be able to help you in a practical way. I do believe, however, that as people wake up and learn about what you are trying to do, the world will change. It's like the scientist who taught the monkey in Indonesia to wash his potatoes before eating them. Before long all the monkeys on the island were doing it. Then he discovered that the monkeys on a nearby island were doing it!!!! The collective consciousness was changing. I think this is the only way things will change in the long term. I also teach young people as well as adults. Most of those I've spoken to are 'out of the box' so to speak and I ask them if their peers feel the same way and they say yes. So I have a lot of faith in the younger generation; in their potential. I get the impression that most of them don't watch TV but prefer the internet (at least in Italy) so are not as under the influence of the illuminati as much as their parents are. Only time will tell!
Meanwhile, I am continuing to read all your material. Thank you so much for sending us the links between your comments: it's really helpful! Maybe, one day I'll have a fuller understanding of what you are doing.
Thanks again and Buon Lavoro as the Italians say:-)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi shamanseeker:

Thanks. A lot to say, but I have a busy day ahead of me, which includes an eight-mile hike (somebody has to do it! :) ). Yes, as more awaken, the world will change. It is funny that you bring up the 100th monkey incident. I have a close relative who is a famous primatologist and, many years ago, she asked me if I could cite the study that documented that event. Other than Kesey’s book, there is no documentation of that incident. It is probably an urban legend. There is certainly a cultural effect where monkeys and apes teach their young (which the original study was documented), but it spreading to the other islands that way is at this time an undocumented incident, maybe made up out of the thin air.

That just shows the many hazards at the fringes. Sheldrake’s formative causation theory has plenty of evidence for it, some which I have seen for myself, but the hundredth monkey incident may be fantasy. There is a ton of New Age stuff like that, of supposedly fringe science or unexpected discoveries when pursuing “normal science”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

which is simply invalid. That is part of the problem with alternatives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#intro

I sympathize with your issues with classroom science. Science is not always easy, but it is also true that it has been unnecessarily mystified, as the scientific establishment made itself the new priesthood. My upcoming energy essay is intended to tackle a bunch of scientific subjects, but in a way that is easy-to-understand (at least relatively – my readers will need to do the work). Einstein loved popularized science, and was good at it himself. We will see how I do. The task is a little intimidating, especially as I am not a professional scientist, so I am going about it cautiously.

In the world that Roads saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

science was easily mastered by the children, and that was because that civilization consciously chose love.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

They call the mechanism of this type of learning the morphogenic field. And although it may not be scientifically proven, I know it exists. I tap it every day. It is often the case that discoveries happen simultaneously. One scientist comes up with some sort of discovery and another half way around the world does so at the same time. There are many reported instances of exactly that happening, but with no oficial explanation.
But I deffer to Wade in this case, he's the expert. :p
Just kidding with the tongue thing. Still stuck on the smile limit. I must test that hypothesis soon.

[shamanseeker]

Thanks Wade and Hi Ernie! I'm sorry that the 100th monkey incident may be an urban myth. I remember though when I first arrived in Italy hearing that the telephone had not been invented by John Logie Baird, according to Italians but (I can't remember the Italian who is supposed to have invented it). There are other inventions that Italians claim an Italian made but which in Britain and North America we think it was someone else. They don't come to mind at the moment. And as Ernie mentions, it would seem that when a person invents something that often another person in another part of the world invents it, too. I look forward to your upcoming essay and will definitely read it. Love your closing sentence :-)
Enjoy your hike!

[Wade Frazier]

Ah yes, the “we did it first” dynamic. In a world of abundance, that is another game that will disappear. Shamanseeker, part of what you have seen in Italy is that dynamic. But is also works the other way around. Tesla invented the radio, not Marconi.

On the morphogenic field that Ernie refers to, there is plenty of evidence for it, and I have seen some of it with my own eyes. For instance, Jose Silva began his research teaching children how to act psychically, doing the Edgar Cayce method:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

It took him several years to train his first adult. Adults were particularly slow to learn it. But that was in the 1940s and 1950s. By the time that I took the class in 1974, adults learned it rather easily. When I took a refresher course in 1982, the instructor mentioned that it has been getting a lot easier for adults to learn to do it, in an instance of formative causation. And to demonstrate it, he picked a pupil from the class to get up in front of everybody and work a “case.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown

He nailed it, even to the point of saying that the subject had very sore knees. We were not even to that part of the class where we worked cases. The instructor saw how that student was tuning in during the exercises, and gave him an “easy” case. Some people are easy to read, and others less so. When the pupil finished his reading, the instructor said that the woman’s knees were such an issue that she wore kneepads as part of her wardrobe. The instructor did it as an example of how easy it was becoming for adults to work cases, where adult students who had not even completed the training yet could work cases successfully.

Going hiking now.

Best,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Wonderful, magical words, Wade! Thank you so much for posting these links. They give such inspiration and hope. (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1)

As they began descending into the other reality, the very atmosphere radiated peace and joy, which Road’s mentor said was due to the love energy that the beings in that reality radiated. As they approached a city in that reality, the trees lining the street looked like spruces, but with silver needles. Roads thought they looked artificial, but the life energy emanating from them was far too strong to ignore. Roads examined a tree and saw that the needles slowly swayed, like sea anemone tentacles. His mentor confirmed that that tree was the result of genetic intervention, and sea anemone DNA was indeed involved. However, it was done with the tree’s consent. That reality also had genetic engineering, but done with the utmost respect and cooperation with the life forms involved. The trees enjoyed the movement that their silky, silvery needles provided.

In the Blade Runner-ish reality, Roads and his mentor were ghostly beings, unseen by that reality’s inhabitants. When they showed up in that new, loving reality, the people could see them and knew Roads’s mentor, as he was a regular visitor. A group of teenagers invited Roads and his mentor to their school. To a casual observer, the teenagers looked remarkably like those god-like people in the rich levels of the Blade Runner-ish world, but they needed no drugs, genetic tinkering or holographic crutches. Those teenagers were highly developed, both spiritually and mentally, and love increased their abilities to astonishing levels.

The teenagers took Roads and his mentor on that city’s equivalent of a bus: it looked like a rainbow running down the street. As soon as Roads stepped on it, it whisked him away. It responded to his mind, going where he wanted, as rapidly or slowly as he wanted, and before he knew it, he had already disembarked at his destination. The school was in a park setting. The lawn was a kind of fern-ish plant that smelled faintly of lemon and never needed mowing. The area emitted a feeling of tranquility, as if it was a specifically induced atmosphere. In the park was a large domed building that housed the school, and the teenagers invited Roads inside. Each lay down in a bed that adapted itself to the student, and they received an education where information was fed directly into their brains while in a meditative state. The students’ entire bodies were involved, each cell participating in the learning experience. The students experienced what they learned, and they learned more than fifty times faster than students in today’s schools learn, so by age six a child knew nearly everything there was to know about the human body, and how to be healthy.

Roads was disbelieving at first, but he saw that the students were all physically perfect and radiated robust health. As Roads goggled, his mentor reminded him not to compare that reality to his world, and his mentor made a statement that nearly sums up this web site:



“You are living in a time when the great potential of many brilliant individuals is suppressed. Your people are stricken with disease, war, famine, and suffering on a level that rivals anything in your historical past. All your true geniuses who develop the means for holistic health and a global abundance of food are persecuted, ridiculed, restrained, and controlled by rampant corporate greed and consensus reality. However, as always, the greater the suppression, the greater the resulting explosion… You live in a time of great cataclysm, a time of an explosive upheaval in consciousness. This can be seen environmentally in the unprecedented speed of change. The times you live in will be the determining factor of your next reality frame. Some of your humanity will incarnate into the reality that we visited earlier; some will incarnate here. The big majority, however, will probably incarnate back into a reality frame that is a continuation of your present mode.” (see Roads, Into a Timeless Realm, p. 227)



In that heavenly reality Roads visited, there was no disease, sickness or hospitals. Utopia barely begins to describe it, and Roads only saw a sliver of it. Then Roads’s mentor took him to a forest outside of town. Roads is a veteran of many incredible mystical experiences, where he has communed with nature and all manner of consciousness, but that forest experience was one that a Disney cartoon could not begin to portray. Birds and butterflies flew everywhere, nature spirits abounded and trees talked to him. The entire planet had a rainbow expressway that webbed it, and connected city to farm to wilderness. The rainbow was just one form of transportation. The most common form of long-distance travel was the equivalent of a huge soap bubble, which was made of electromagnetic energy, and everybody over age six had one. The bubble responded to the “driver’s” mind, taking each one wherever they wanted to go.

Their last visit in that reality was to a farm. As with the Blade Runner-ish world, the farming was automated, but as the grain was harvested, it nearly leapt into the harvester, with the grain emitting a deep sense of fulfillment. The farmland had larger versions of those traveling bubbles, but those protected crops, and could cover up to a square mile of land and provide a perfect environment, including temperature and moisture control, while the surrounding land would be unaffected. Those bubbles were made of electromagnetic energy and were nearly invisible, but the most powerful tornado could not have dented one. That reality had no pets, but animals and people could become each other’s companions if both wanted to. Of course, vegetarians entirely populated that reality. No animal was abused or killed by humans in that reality.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

I too have experience confirming existence of morphogenetic field :) Two of my ideas have been implemented in real life by someone else in Poland. And they are a hit :) Damn :)

We should really imagine some more breathtaking things for this Field (I think it is our Creator/Source answering our prayers ;) ) to materialise for us...

Maybe that Choir you dream of Wade will materialise thanks to that Field. The idea behind that Choir is rather "compatible" with our Creator :)

I would really like to live in reality described by Michael...

[sandy]

Me Too Robert :) and maybe we will, as there is more and more creation going into the Universe daily about the reality and resulting potentials of FE. Humanity will turn the corner in our life time I believe, as never before has there been a push for awakening at least not in my lifetime :) 64 years :(

[Wade Frazier]

Well, shamanseeker, if you are going to plaster my words on this thread, then I had better fix the mistakes in that passage, which I just did (or at least the most egregious ones). :)

That passage is one of the stars that I steer by. On another thread, some vids of Roads were posted:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=309392&viewfull=1#post309392

Yes, Robert, the “harmonic” effects that I have mentioned for that choir are morphogenic effects. As I have stated before, I believe that it would not really take many people singing the abundance song to begin some harmonic effects. That other thread that Ilie started is humming a few bars, and is a great beginning. Yes, Sandy, maybe we will get to see it in our lifetimes. I’ll take The Muppet Movie ending to this quest any day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related

Going to bed now,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Sorry, Wade :-( Didn't want to give you any extra work! It was so lovely, I couldn't resist. Hope you had a good hike and good night. Bye!

[Wade Frazier]

Working on my site is never dreary. :)

[eaglespirit]

Been away from steady following of this thread...was on the road for a bit busy with workings, good busy : )

Wonderful higher music being played here, Thank You All!!

All I can add , Wade, is that Muppet Movie ending may well be on course...for I am feeling some intense clarity is around the corner for Us and All of Humanity! Giving and Receiving Selfless Love is Becoming MORE Common each day now...that IS the Higher Music of FE : )

Dan

[Steve C]

Hi all,not been here for a while,hope your all doing ok.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Sorry am killing you softly with my smileys song again but it will be a last one and I hope this could be helpfull in a way. I wanted to proove that smileys are abundant in one post after all. The sky (7 pics per post ) is not a limit. The only limit is our imagination. Since all things and concepts in universe scale up and down (by analogy) this is also a proove that energy IS abundant and yet limited by our imagination...

But funny thing is this proof can be seen only by logged in members :( This IS analogy... Sorry dear guests :(... Some words CAN describe it but you have to believe its true. Below is a matrix of 20x10 smileys :) x200
10060
and another one below...
10060
and another one...
10060

I hope someone else got this idea too so it could also proove morfogenic/harmonic field with a twist :)

And Wade you have mentioned that Silva's lessons are more and more effective. That it takes less and less time to teach students certain skills. I have posted in another thread link to an article in WIRED magazine about raising power of the placebo effect in clinical trials of new "medicines".

Placebos Are Getting More Effective. Drugmakers Are Desperate to Know Why. (http://www.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff_placebo_effect?currentPage=all)

Could this be another symptom of The Quickening? We are more connected with each other than it was possible 20-40 years ago and our numbers have grown significantly. And this growth is more substantial in areas of our planet where people' minds/hearts are not so limited by reason/materialism. I think it counts. People in The Far East are more willing to believe in miracles (more growth) than people in The West (not so much of growth lately)...

Posted it here to not obscure Ernie's another mindblowing vision...

Good Night...

[Wade Frazier]

Well, Robert, it is OK to use this thread to show the fruit of your efforts to overcome smiley scarcity! Most impressive. :) :)

Yes, the raising vibe may have something to do with the so-called placebo effect changes.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Steve C:

I can't speak for the others, but am doing OK.

Attached is a pic where I hiked with a bud yesterday. It can never be too bad in that kind of country. :) The blueberries were heavenly, too.

Best

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wow Wade, I'm envious. It has been a long time since I lived in the mountains (Penticton British Columbia for 5 years)! I forgot how much I miss it.

I posted this in response to a news item at Yahoo Canada about the proposed Keystone Pipeline that would extend from northern Alberta all the way south across the entire continent to Texas refineries:

Please listen. Listen carefully. Just once, remove your own bias and listen. We have significant alternative methods of clean, unlimited, free energy awaiting our use. Study the Flower of Life! The Seed of Life! The Fruit of Life! These are not Kaballah teachings - not the Tree of Life... This is Sacred Geometry! The secret of all mathematics, physics, chemistry etc. You have not been told the truth. Harmonics, vibrations and sound are the basis of reality, not the four forces of modern scientific theory. They are only approximations purposely taught to blind you to the truth. Peace to all and may The Most High God keep you safe in the coming times of tribulation!

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

We have simmilar pending situation in Poland. It is not tar sands fever. We got shale gas fever :( Almost everybody is jumping up how rich and energetically independent Poland will get. But there is no single polish company that can afford licence to use the technology or drill one hole. Halliburton & Co is already here to help. And politicians are all happy to give it a go. In France fraking is banned (suppossedly thanks to public outrage). But most interestingly they have a plenty of their nukes. In Poland we have our cherished by generations enemy Russia and GazProm. Despite taxmoney sponsored analisis of risks fraking poses, politics use the GazProm stick and profits carrot to round everybody into shale gas pit... And we have elections in next week so things will certainly move very fast to secure some perks...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Guys:

Ernie, I took my wife to Okanagan country a few weeks ago, for her first time. Nice part of the world. Good luck with the frakking Halliburtons, etc. The vested interests are impressive, and none of those mentioned are at the Godzilla level. Godzilla just makes sure that the game continues. The house always wins. :) In the USA, we are able to slaughter millions of people and steal their oil and gas, in the name of Freedom®! That is truly The American Way.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

One person focusing on the FE vision is worth a thousand (Ten thousand? More?) protestors.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

There is a movie, an old one, titled They Live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live

Its premise is not much different than that negative world that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

There are times when the They Live premise is practically shoved in my face, in ways that seem intentional. Most of the indoctrination and conditioning is what we perform on each other, but there are also orchestrators. I work in a high-rise, and a few years ago, they began putting up a kind of TV screen in the elevators, and most people look at them as they go up, or they look at their smart phones these days. They literally call the service “Captivate,” and the standard presentations are sports scores, market numbers, the weather, and so on. It is pretty innocuous, but they also have an “expand your vocabulary word of the day” feature that often makes some subtle dig on current affairs. Also some headline news makes it on there. Today as I got on, there was an article titled something like, “Dealing with the important stuff.” As you know, “stuff” is one of my favorite words at Avalon (that I may never use on my site), and when I saw the headline with “stuff” in it, it looked like a title that was intended to be ironic. The article was about how in a world in crisis, people focused on the most inane things that they beseech the White House with, and it gave two examples. The first was asking the White House to acknowledge the ET presence, and the other was doing away with pennies and nickels. The ET issue is joined with the hip with the FE issue. I doubt that anybody thinks that the ET issue, if real, would be trivial. That it is joined at the hip with FE and other exotic technologies may be behind a ridiculing post in the elevator. I see indoctrination and programming beaming at Americans from all corners, and now they do it in the elevators.

Obey! :)

Best,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Hi:

There is a movie, an old one, titled They Live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live

Its premise is not much different than that negative world that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

There are times when the They Live premise is practically shoved in my face, in ways that seem intentional. Most of the indoctrination and conditioning is what we perform on each other, but there are also orchestrators. I work in a high-rise, and a few years ago, they began putting up a kind of TV screen in the elevators, and most people look at them as they go up, or they look at their smart phones these days. They literally call the service “Captivate,” and the standard presentations are sports scores, market numbers, the weather, and so on. It is pretty innocuous, but they also have an “expand your vocabulary word of the day” feature that often makes some subtle dig on current affairs. Also some headline news makes it on there. Today as I got on, there was an article titled something like, “Dealing with the important stuff.” As you know, “stuff” is one of my favorite words at Avalon (that I may never use on my site), and when I saw the headline with “stuff” in it, it looked like a title that was intended to be ironic. The article was about how in a world in crisis, people focused on the most inane things that they beseech the White House with, and it gave two examples. The first was asking the White House to acknowledge the ET presence, and the other was doing away with pennies and nickels. The ET issue is joined with the hip with the FE issue. I doubt that anybody thinks that the ET issue, if real, would be trivial. That it is joined at the hip with FE and other exotic technologies may be behind a ridiculing post in the elevator. I see indoctrination and programming beaming at Americans from all corners, and now they do it in the elevators.

Obey! :)

Best,

Wade

Hi Wade, in Italy they've put screens in all the train stations - just publicity - but really annoying. I've noticed now that in the town where I work, people just ignore them now and the volume has been tampered with twice so you usually can't hear them either, thank goodness.! In Milan train station, they still blare out in Orwellian fashion as far as I know. The time before last I went to Milan, I was horrified to find that there were screens in every carriage of the new metro (subway) trains - you couldn't even read on the train for the noise and instructions - inane instructions repeated again and again. The last time I was there, I was relieved that the screens were out of order - phew!!!! Either an advantage of Italian inefficiency or, more likely in my opinion knowing these wonderful people who disobey stupid rules, orders, etc with great aplomb, someone had put them out of order ;-)

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Apparently this is happening in many countries. In Poland there are such screens too. You might think at first i am mad but we should be thankfull for this ubiquity ;)

Imagine that one day for some unknown reason there is a glitch in the system. And all those screens begin to work backward. They begin to wake people up instead of lulling them. It could happen because of a hack or stuxnet like virus or change of the ownership. Let them install more of it ;) These screens are all connected to the internet ;) Waiting for something unexpected to happen. It is a stick. Can be grabbed at our end ;) I don't suggest i will do it. I am not qualified... But there are 7*10^9 people in the world. That means the probability of some error in the system is higher than ever ;) Sleapers are sleapers. They can not be more asleap than they already are. So lets look at those screens as our friends...

You know...
"ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!"
...style :p

[Ernie Nemeth]

They have those screens here in every subway stop. No sound thank God. I make a point of standing under them while waiting for the train so I cannot see what is on them!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

As you mentioned, shamanseeker, they are Orwellian. Orwell’s 1984 described the telescreens that virtually bludgeoned its “listeners” with its messages. In the wake of 9/11, I studied 1984, and it seemed that the Bush Gang was too, because 1984 seemed to be their blueprint:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell

We will see, Robert, if it ends up being part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Maybe the screens will all broadcast smileys one day, and then I will know that, your protestations aside, that you were involved! :) :)

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

This won’t be a mystical experience post, but an auto-biographical post that will highlight some early experiences that set me on my path. This will be my “LA days” post, as I could not escape living in the Big City when I got out of college. As I am writing this, I realize that it is going to be my longest post yet, so I am going to break it into pieces, to make the reading experience easier. This series of posts may be my last autobiographical posts like this. I have not written what you are about to read before, but I can see that those experiences primed me, so to speak, to be inspired to not only join up with Dennis, but chase him across the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

So, here goes.

Although born in Seattle, I was raised in Southern California because my parents discovered sunshine when my father was in the Marines. My parents will die in the sunshine, while I love living among the lakes, trees and flowers of the Pacific Northwest. I was raised in Ventura, which is about an hour from LA, but is in another universe. Ventura is a beach town, and the local surf spots are in Beach Boys songs, and my brother surfed them. LA is another matter altogether.

While growing up, the only time I went to LA was to go to a Dodgers game, the museums, the airport, and one of my childhood friends went to UCLA and I visited him there. When we went to the natural history museum when I was about 14, when we entered the San Fernando Valley, I got a tremendous headache from the air pollution, and it lasted all day until we came back out of the Valley.

I chased my girlfriend to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. I did not even know if they had a business school when I chased her there. She ended the relationship the week after we got there. I got lucky in that Cal Poly had a reputable business school. I went from being the science prodigy to the accounting prodigy when that voice told me to study business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

I got the highest test score in the university’s history on the national accounting exam, and when I graduated in 1981, the Big Eight accounting firms in LA rolled out the red carpet for me, but I did not want to live in LA. My uncle introduced me to the mountains, with my first backpack at age 17, and I was hooked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm

I began inquiring with the Big Eight firms in Seattle a year before graduation. In 1980, the Seattle economy was all about Boeing and the timber industry. Nobody had heard of Bill Gates yet. I picked the worst recession in forty years to graduate from college, and the Big Eight firms in Seattle were not hiring. Given the choice of career or lifestyle, I chose lifestyle, and moved in with my grandparents in Seattle, determined to make a go of it in Seattle. After a sobering tax season in early 1982, where they fired me soon after April 15th, the tax filing deadline for individuals, I was crawling back to Ventura, and hired on with a Big Eight firm in LA, beginning in January 1983.

While Seattle was an urban environment and my grandparents lived on a hill that overlooked downtown, LA was an entirely different experience. I first lived in Culver City, which is about ten miles from downtown LA. It was where many of LA’s black professionals lived. About the only greenery in town was the lawn at the cemetery across the street from my apartment complex. My office was in downtown Los Angeles. I spent three years living in Los Angeles, and my average commute was an hour each way. As an auditor, I did not spend much time in our office, but worked at clients. I spent weeks sleeping on friends’ floors when I worked in the San Fernando Valley or Orange Country, so my commute would not be two hours each way.

During my first year, however, I worked in Skid Row Los Angeles, auditing the redevelopment agency, which rehabbed the slums, or at least tried to. It was only about a half mile from my office, but it was a hellish half mile. The Greyhound Bus station was about a block from where I worked at the redevelopment agency. I worked in Skid Row for about six months altogether, on various clients. When I first began working there, it was the summer of 1983, during “smog season.” In the summer, the air pollution was so bad in downtown Los Angeles that my office skyscraper was not visible until I was less than a mile from it. I recall days when looking out of my skyscraper’s windows during smog season, and I could not even see streets a quarter of a mile away. The air pollution was even worse in Skid Row, with the buses and other diesel vehicles. I had sneezing fits for months when I worked in Skid Row. When I walked outside for a five minutes and came back in and blew my nose, there was soot on the tissue paper. In public accounting, bringing your lunch from home was forbidden. We were expected to eat at restaurants for every lunch, and I had to give up being a vegetarian in those days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm

Something happened after my first month in Skid Row that I have never been able to fully explain. Driving into the downtown labyrinth, where it was invisible in the smog bank until I was within a mile of it, was part of the tableau. I also drove a 1973 Pinto, with no air conditioning, so I had the window down. As I got off the freeway and drove into Skid Row, the businesses had not yet opened, and they all had bars on the windows and doors like fortresses. Some of the homeless were still sleeping on the ground, while some others were moving as they prepared for the day’s bustle. The experience was like driving into Hell. One day, after a month of doing that every day, I started to lose it. I burst into tears as I was driving, almost in a panic, as I drove into Hell once again. I couldn’t do it anymore. But something happened during the event: it never bothered me again. I worked in Skid Row for several more months in the next year, and it did not bother me again. I have theories about what changed in my mind that day, but I will probably never really know what happened. It was probably some kind of survival mechanism that kicked in. The things that I saw in the next couple of years will follow, but I was never overwhelmed by them. But, it was about then that my drinking problems began; a habit that I did not give up until I was forty-two.

Several events from my days in Skid Row will give an idea of what that world was like, and how it influenced my subsequent FE efforts. The audit itself was brutal. The redevelopment agency was not computerized, but there was an army of accountants maintaining manual records. They had multi-million-dollar unreconciled amounts, which made it a nightmare to audit. Examining the offering documents relating to the bonds that they sold to the public were ambiguous as to the redevelopment agency’s legal obligations. When we talked to the attorneys who created the documents, we were informed that the documents were intentionally ambiguous, so the agency could slip off the hook if necessary, with their obligations decided in the courtroom (basically, lawyers intentionally created documents that would give lawyers more work in the future – that kind of institutional dishonesty I later found was standard operating procedure). Because it was a government job, there were laws that stated that our Big Eight firm could not do the audit by itself, but had to hire a minority-owned auditing form to assist with the audit, so there was a sweet black woman who was assigned to our team, assigned to the most mundane tasks. She was about my age. She had been on the audit for a few years. The poor woman believed that working with a Big Eight firm on the audit was going to enhance her career. Her employer was not going to tell her any differently. Our company was not going to tell her any differently. We were forced to eat out at lunch every day; lunch was always a social event. At lunch she asked me one day about that very issue, of how much her career would be helped by working with us on that audit. In a preview, I suppose, of what my life’s work would become, I told her the truth. She was devastated. Would I do something like that again? I think so.

During those months, on another day, she and I walked to lunch, about a block from our office. As we rounded the corner, a dead Mexican-American man laid on the sidewalk right in front of us. He had just died. I think that it was the first time that I had seen a dead body. He died traumatically – probably not by crime, but by suicide or accident. About ten feet away stood a policewoman. Nobody stood around the body, and maybe the policewoman was standing there so that nobody would (or loot the body), but we just kept walking, passing a few feet from the body. About fifty yards later we entered the eating establishment for lunch. I don’t recall us talking about the body. By that time, it was just one of the many nightmarish sights that attended life in Skid Row. A half-hour later, we walked out of the establishment to go back to work, and the body was gone. There was no trace left of him.

I read the daily paper from about age nine to thirty, thinking that I was getting the news. Reading all the lying stories about Dennis beat that out of me:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

My alternative media studies began soon after that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

But in my LA days, I read the Los Angeles Times for an hour each morning before going to work. The A-section was the first one and the largest, and had the most “news” in it, so I read it first. Near the back of that section was miscellaneous news, including the “police blotter,” which briefly noted some of the noteworthy police-involved events of the day. On a morning when I was working in Skid Row, at about 6:30 AM I read about an event that happened a few hours earlier, at about 1:00 AM. At the street corner where the redevelopment agency was, kitty corner from where we encountered that dead body, the police arrested a white man who seemed like he was on PCP. The cops handcuffed him and put him in the back seat of their police car. Somehow, the man was able to get into the driver’s seat of the police car and began driving it away. He ran over one cop, and the other cop leapt onto the roof of the car, holding onto the siren-light on the roof as the car sped away, and emptied his revolver though the roof, with enough bullets hitting the driver so that he was unable to continue driving. The account did not say if the driver or cop who was run over died in the incident, but I remember reading that account, thinking that it was an interesting night in Skid Row. If that event had happened Seattle or many other big cities in the USA, it would have been one of the stories of the year. In LA, it made page 17 of the newspaper, with about a column-inch or two of coverage.

There were homeless everywhere in Skid Row. I would be walking briskly down the sidewalk in my suit, and the homeless would be using the gutters as toilets as I walked by. The homeless situation was part of Reagan’s Revolution. While he was the California governor, Reagan began defunding the social safety net, and when he was president, it was more of the same. While spending billions on Star Wars:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary#The_frontiers_of_science

he threw people onto the street. I studied the homeless situation, and periodically there were articles on the homeless in the LA Times. One article was about a homeless man who lost his legs in WWII, and was an alcoholic. He reminisced about how back in the “good old days,” the homeless men in Skid Row were alcoholics, often men who got cleaned out in a divorce. But he lamented that in the present day, most of the homeless talked to themselves. The warm weather of LA led to a phenomenon known as “Greyhound Therapy.” Mental health clinics in America’s urban Northeast and Midwest that were strapped for funding would buy patients a one-way Greyhound bus ticket to LA, and ten minutes after getting off the bus, the patient was a denizen of Skid Row. While Hitler euthanized them, Reagan threw them onto the streets:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#reagan

My accounting firm not only audited the redevelopment agency, but while I was there, we got the Head Start account. Head Start is a program to help inner-city children:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_Start_program

So, its offices were in the worst parts of LA, and its LA headquarters was in Watts. I wore a suit and tie every day for the first twelve years of my career, until the corporate world went casual. A Jewish guy that I worked with was assigned to the Head Start job. On his first day, as he got out of his nice car in his suit, he was the only white guy within miles; he did not get fifty feet from his car before he was mugged. He got “lucky” and only had to give up his wallet. After that, my accounting firm allowed the dress code to be relaxed for the Head Start job, so that the white auditors would blend in a little.

Meanwhile, at my gig at the redevelopment agency, a freshly-minted college graduate was assigned to the job. I was a few years older, due to my adventures so far. She was the valedictorian from a Christian college in Southern California. Her business attire was even more wholesome than most, with some lacey frill around her neck on most days. For the next few months, I watched her transformation as she got her “welcome” to the profession and LA. Although I was a coveted recruit when I was in college, that did not mean anything once I began my career, especially in downtown LA. I was treated pretty brutally in one of my first reviews, a review that I did not think was fair, and it just about scuttled my career there before it began. I think it was just a product of the shark tank. That woman went through similar cognitive dissonance. She continually talked to me about her academic achievements. She did not come right out and say it, but she was thinking, “I was valedictorian! What the hell am I doing here?” I really felt badly for her, but did not say, “Welcome to Hell!”

She was also engaged to her college sweetheart who graduated at the same time and was in our audit group. He was assigned to the Head Start job while she was at the redevelopment agency. She said that every day that her fiancée was on the job, his clothes got rattier and rattier, as he tried to blend in. By the end of the job, he looked like he was homeless. The Head Start job was one of the “hot potato” jobs in the office that nobody wanted. The next spring was promotion time, and the senior on the Head Start job was promoted to manager, so they assigned the Head Start senior slot to an attractive white woman. She quit the next day, deciding to enroll in graduate school.

One day, that former valedictorian and I were walking back from lunch to the redevelopment agency, at the same intersection where that handcuffed guy tried driving away in the cop car. As we crossed the street, coming toward us was a homeless black man. He was mumbling something to somebody behind us. Just as he was right in front of us, a few feet away, he exposed himself, in that well-endowed African way, nearly hitting that woman with me. It seemed to be his way of making a point with whomever he was mumbling at. We kept walking and I did not react to that display, but wondered what the effect on her would be. At we reached the sidewalk, we stood there. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw her roll her eyes and shake her head. It may have been her moment when she resigned herself to Hell. She stopped talking about her academic credentials after that.

That is all for today. I will be making a few more of these in the next week. Then I will be working on that Brian essay.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wade that shows a side of you I did not imagine, and I'm sorry you had to experience that. It must have been part of the reason for your dedication to this effort.

I've never lived on skid row but after my divorce I used to hang out down there - lots of drugs and partying to keep my mind off my situation. I must have had an angel looking out after me because the few times that I was "targeted" I managed to walk away unscathed.

And when I came to live with my present girlfriend she lived in the "projects". Luckily I already knew everybody and they knew me because my good friend lived there and I had been visiting him for years (he was the one I use to go downtown with to "skidrow"). I used to have my daughter come be with me every second weekend until I moved in to that area. From that point on I would not allow her to visit. I would go see her and take her places - often to my sister's in a decent area of town. I've rarely had my daughter overnight since. So sad.

I lived there for five years. During that time I saw all manner of things - murders, muggings, gang fights, police raids, etc. By the time I managed to drag the two of us out of that hellhole I stopped doing drugs and drinking because you had to stay on your "game" if you wanted to be relatively safe. I got into a few fights but I was never drunk, like my opponents usually were. That was my edge. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fighter but you gotta stand up for yourself or you become a target.

Well, that brought back memories.

Thanks for the post. I hope it won't be long to the next one.

Love,
Ernie

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 2:

The redevelopment agency was my first “big job” of my Big Eight career. I have typical horrible “doctor’s” handwriting, it is related to my position in the “autism spectrum” – and on that job my supervisor made me write in block capitals, which I have done ever since, but thank God for keyboards, if I had to write for a living, I would have found a way out of it. I also had to figure out how the audit was supposed to work, that meant studying the work papers. I ended up “eating time” on that job, which means working and not recording the hours – working without pay. I went into the redevelopment agency office on some weekends, and saw what Skid Row was like on the weekend. I also was there at night a few times, and that was a truly scary experience.

On one of my weekend visits to the office, I walked to get lunch and I walked into a street event. I don’t know what the Mexicans call it, but some streets were closed, on a Sunday, I believe, and the streets were lined with street vendors and their portable tables. Each table sold trinkets and other wares. The street was packed with Mexicans, and it extended down one street as far as I could see – it may have run for miles. It was kind of a festival atmosphere, with families of parents and children. It was kind of like a Disneyland experience for them. It was about 100 degrees, under a smog blanket, with people packed in like sardines, buying trinkets, without a green, living thing to be seen. And they were having a good time! These were the Mexicans who had escaped to the USA. They “made it.” It was one of the saddest sights that I saw in LA.

My career with the Big Eight was not a good one. I did not do well in the shark tank. I became kind of a lost waif in the office, and got the worst jobs. One of them was that I became the inventory king. Businesses that had made goods had to have inventories performed once a year as part of the audit. I performed dozens of inventories during my LA days. Some were of tightly-run Japanese conglomerates, while others were industrial wasteland companies making heavy industry parts. I also inventoried a sweatshop. It was in the garment district, close to my office. It was a leather-making factory where they made leather purses and similar articles. On inventory day, the facilities shut down so the inventory can be performed and audited. When I inventoried the leather-making facility, I eventually entered a room where most of the manufacturing took place. The room was on the top floor of the facility. The building was about a hundred years old, and I can’t recall if the rest of the building had air conditioning, but that room definitely did not. I performed that inventory in February, so that I did not get to see it in its 100-degree glory, but I could only imagine it. That room was about seventy yards long or so, and there were three rows of sewing machines, with about fifty machines in each row. At the end of the room was a fan, with blades about ten feet long.

As I walked through that room and took in that scene, my mind conjured what that must look like in August, with the factory in full swing: 150 Mexican women, feverishly working in the 100 degree heat, with that fan blowing out the leatherworking fumes into the air and cooling the sweating women. It looked hellish.

About a year later, I inventoried the sweatshop version for men. One of my audits was of a company that made a world-famous accoutrement for Mexican low-rider cars. It was privately-owned. It turned out later that they were trying to deceive the auditors, so we resigned from the engagement, but not before I audited their inventories at a few facilities on the same day. As with the leather sweatshop, the facilities were closed for inventory day. While the leather factory had a largely women’s workforce, this heavy industrial business had a male labor force. As the scion of the business drove me to one of their factories, not far from where I lived in Redondo Beach (a few miles behind the fun beach towns were industrial wastelands where the Mexicans and blacks lived), we drove through a barrio. Poor Mexican children played in the streets. The scion was the manager of the factory that we visited. As we parked and approached the building, he pointed out an item of interest: a bullet hole in the front door. As we walked into the building and through the offices, he showed me how the bullet passed through a few walls of the office, eventually lodging in the wall right above his desk. I recall that the shooting happened at night, so that it did not endanger anybody, but the scion told it as a funny story. I think that he planned to eventually excavate that bullet from the wall and keep it as a souvenir. Then I went about my inventory duties.

While seeing the sewing room in the leather sweatshop was a sobering moment, it paled beside what this heavy industrial factory’s conditions were like, where the Mexican men worked. Again, it was closed, so I could only imagine what it must have looked like when running, but it was a version of hell that I saw in my mind’s eye. While inventorying that facility, I had to use the restroom. Then I got a better glimpse of what the workers’ lives were like. It was the most disgusting bathroom that I ever saw. The floor around the urinals was coated with the industrial gunk on the bottom of the workers’ shoes. The restroom looked like it had not been cleaned in years. I used the urinal from about ten feet away from it.

I not only did inventories, but I also did one of the other disagreeable jobs in the office – branch auditing. Our firm audited a firm in New York City, for instance, but it had a satellite office in LA. Our LA office would farm out a staff auditor to audit the branch. If you did a great job or a horrible job, it really did not have any impact on your career, because the people running the engagement were in New York. When you did branch audits, you were effectively removed from your home office. It certainly did not assist your career. I had many dead-end audit experiences like that. But, I was often very friendly with our clients, and that was probably the only saving grace of what I did. I recall being on one of those branch audits, and I got to know the secretary. I am not sure how the subject came up, but she related her own sweatshop tale. She went to work as a secretary for an industrial company. Most factories have offices in the front, with the factory in the back. She went to work as a secretary for a family-owned business, but it turned out to be more like a mob family. She said the front office was opulent, where the owner/managers worked. At the back of the office was the door to the factory, which was off limits to her. The factory was full of Mexicans, and most were illegal aliens, as it turned out. Illegal immigrants had almost no rights. Every Monday morning, the factory manager would walk out onto the factory floor and fire somebody, randomly. That was their managerial style, keeping the employees in a state of terror. The woman was only there a week when it began smelling like a mob operation to her. One day, she was asked to do something that seemed unethical, or she saw something that looked unethical. She spoke up. The manager said something like, “Are you giving me some lip, Broad?!” She lowered her head and shut up. At lunch time, she said that she needed to get something from her car. She got in her car and drove away, and never returned.

While that may seem like a harsh way to manage people, especially people with no legal recourse, one of my college roommates had a similar experience with mob-like companies and their managerial style. He became the CFO of several companies. One of them was an industrial company in Orange County. Right after he started, the CEO took him to New York, to meet their money guys. It was a boiler-room operation on Long Island. As they met the owner of the operation, he showed them around. They had a big bullpen of young, twenty-something young men who cold-called America’s rich, trying to get them to invest their money. In my career, I have been a corporate executive, and when your equity awards are reported to the SEC, you start getting calls from those young men, trying to get you to invest your money. I was new to the executive game back then (this is nearly twenty years ago), and at first, I had no idea how they knew to call me. I eventually figured it out.

On the day that my roomie got his tour of that boiler-room facility, the owner told him how he managed the bullpen. Every Monday morning, he would walk out onto the bullpen floor and randomly fire somebody. Like that mob-like factory, that bullpen operation, and the company that my friend had just hired onto, smelled mob-like. He quit a few weeks later. When he told the CEO that he was resigning, the CEO said, “So, you are f***ing me, eh?” My roomie got out of there as fast as he could. The operation turned out to be mob-like, and my roomie eventually testified at the trial of that CEO and his company. It seems that they were engaged in illegal securities activity, and my roomie was subpoenaed to testify.

As Dennis discovered, the mob and capitalism are happy bedfellows. Dennis has survived several mob hit attempts, and had his companies stolen by them on the East Coast. He eventually discovered that the mob acts with more integrity than the government does.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lawsuit

As Smedley Butler eventually discovered, people like Al Capone are small fry compared to the hyper-capitalists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#butler

Well, I have to run to work, but wanted to give Ernie something to read today! :) There is a lot more coming.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

Thoroughly enjoyable reading, informative, revealing, relative and realistic to life experience and resulting wisdom, >>>>>>>>>>>>>keep it coming :)

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 3

As I mentioned, I began studying the homeless during my LA days, partly because it was thrust in my face. The homeless, beggars, the mentally ill left to fend for themselves - it was my daily reality. On the streets of Skid Row, short spindly trees were planted in the sidewalks. The trees had trunks a few inches across and grew ten feet high or so. There was metal grating, maybe a meter square, which “exposed” some soil around the roots. They were some of Earth’s more bedraggled trees. One day, as we walked down a Skid Row street, we walked past a woman lying in a pile of plastic trash bags, at the base of one of those trees. Over the next few weeks, I had to walk down that street several times, and that woman was always there. She was an old Mexican woman. During those weeks, I once had to drive down that street. Not only was she lying there, but she had probably just “used the bathroom,” because her bare butt was sticking out, facing traffic, almost like a street sign, as I drove down the street.

As fate would have it, a couple of weeks later, there was another LA Times story on the homeless, and the article was about that woman. She was in her sixties and had lived under that tree for the previous eighteen months. She was a Mexican national. Across the street was a take-out chicken window. The reporter’s investigation revealed that the woman somehow had money, and the only place she ever ate was at that chicken window, and the chicken window and her trash bag home under that tree were the only places that she had been in the previous eighteen months. When it rained, she took shelter under the eaves of the building next to the tree.

The plastic trash bags were her toilet, I believe. And she apparently could have lived in a sheltered situation. She did not have to be homeless, but preferred living under that tree over her other options. I thought for a long time about her situation.

I sometimes saw crime in Skid Row, but it was relatively rare in the daylight. I once saw the distressed aftermath of an Asian woman who had her necklace ripped from her neck by somebody running past her.

Those days in LA were “transformative” in that I saw hell and wanted to abolish it. I was so idealistic and naïve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

in those days. What also bothered me greatly, and contributed to my underachieving career in public accounting, was the nagging suspicion that what I was doing for living provided no net benefit to society. It became clear years later that that was indeed the case:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#getting

Those were by far the unhappiest years of my life. I had subsequent years that were more nightmarish:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

or emotionally agonizing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

but those years were my unhappiest, as I received a healthy dose of the real world.

I am going to be very busy in the coming weeks, and this LA Days narrative may come in short spurts like this, but I will be working on it until it is finished. It launched me on my journey with Dennis, and actually framed my first stint with Dennis in ways that I find hard to believe, even though I lived through it. A lot of my journey has been that way, in that I look back at my life and sometimes wonder if it really happened. So much of it was just far larger than life.

Going to work now…

Best,

Wade

[Butangeld]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this, maybe Ilie's thread on imagining abundance would be just as good. I've got some thoughts on abundance I'd like to share.

Everyone on Earth already thinks and imagines abundance. There seems no shortage of fear and frustration or debt and poverty, these are in abundance. I think the general opinion on all this, the shortage of everything that's needed for life, is one of expectation of still worse to come, more debt, less security, lower standards in food and health. There is a quiet acceptance of 'this is the way the world works'. But there is still abundance, it is just that it is for those things that make the poorest of conditions.

I'm ready to believe that this attachment to abundance is in our nature, but that we have somehow turned it on ourselves. If someone meditates then the abundant nature of our thoughts are stilled, or perhaps set free to wander without concentration on things in our world that only seem important. Godzilla doesn't have to do anything on a day-to-day basis to keep this kind of world going, we do that for him by concentrating our undiminished, abundance thoughts on the points of interest he has supplied – fear, debt, hatred etc. I fantasize that maybe he is just as fed up with the way things have turned out as we are, and that like the rest of us the plans he had in the beginning have not panned out quite the way he'd have liked. That maybe this is not the world he'd intended and now, when he reviews his plans, he thinks them immature and untenable.

We cannot stop thinking abundance thoughts, but the conditions we suffer today are the result of negative thoughts in abundance. We make the fear we suffer, we make the love we share and we manifest the conditions in which we live

You're right Wade that integrity is the scarcest commodity in our world. When enough people of meaningful integrity form a group our unwavering thoughts of abundance will be continually positive. I am convinced this will change the game being played.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Butangeld:

Thank you very much for that thoughtful post. Yes, thoughts of scarcity are in abundance! :)

Yes, the road ahead for humanity looks pretty dim at this time, if viewed through a “normal” lens. It is challenging to remain optimistic. I recall an interview with the Dalia Lama long ago, and he was asked why he felt optimistic, with all of the terrible things that China had done to Tibet, and he said something like, “What other attitude would have me take? I see no viable alternative to being optimistic.”

Yes, the abundant engine of the human mind is focused on stuff that is not pretty, and we have had help in maintain that focus. This is a highly important issue that you bring up, and is part of the conundrum. That thread of Ilie’s is about imagining what a world based on abundance will look like (or maybe, what it will not look like). Doing that visioning work is vital, IMO, partly because I saw, to my amazement, how almost nobody would even be brave enough to imagine what a world based on FE could look like, even for a minute. It was a mind-boggler, to see the levels of entrenched denial over and over, and see my fellow travelers report the same thing.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

While reading and participating on Ilie’s thread might not seem like any great shakes, you might be amazed at how rare such an exercise is. I have never seen a thread like that before. We will see if we can keep it up.

On your musing about the GCs (AKA Godzilla, the Big Boys), there is evidence of what you are referring to being the case. James Gilliland:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

says that the GCs eventually realized that enslaving a planet is hard work, much harder and less fun than they thought. They are slaves to their desire for power and control, and some of them are beginning to realize it. Greer’s reporting that a growing fraction of the GCs wants FE to come out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

is along the same lines, and a friend close me got to encounter that disenchanted faction that wants it to come out, and they were brave enough to display their wares:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#underground

I believe that this is going to be a joint effort, where the GCs will find that their global grip is not nearly as fun as it used to be, while some fraction of the masses (us, for instance) begins to awaken to their spiritual heritage as inherently free beings, and we kind of meet halfway. There are several reasons why I advocate the lamb’s path for this, and that is partly because threading this needle may be so difficult that only those with the highest intentions can do it. But, I also realized that nobody can do it alone. Those lambs need to be stampeding! :)

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Although I agree with the idea, since it is absolutely obvious, it seems to be grating on my nerves. It took me a moment to realize why.
"Scarcity abundance" is an oxymoron! Just like "Military Intelligence" only far more blunt.

It's like saying, "She's a little pregnant". Or he's slightly dead. What's the sense of it? We know we are abundantly immersed in scarcity. That's the point.

For a while I was upset that Wade kept repeating the same message, over and over to every reply. But that is the message: We cannot even dream of abundance.


Everyone on Earth already thinks and imagines abundance. No we do not, we think and imagine scarcity. A rose by any other name...

Thank you for not posting that on Ilie's thread!

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 4

Being raised in Ventura, and wishing I was in Seattle, I moved as soon as I could to where the air was a little cleaner, and that was the beach. I moved to Redondo Beach and spent my last years in LA living there. The prevailing sea breeze blew the smog east of LA, to places such as Riverside and San Bernardino. It was rarely smoggy in Redondo Beach; the thick kind that hurt your lungs to breathe (ozone does that).

I also escaped to friends in Bishop whenever I could, and hiked and cross-country skied in the Sierras. I hiked in the Santa Monica Mountains whenever I could, too, but long hikes meant hiking through housing tracts. It was a far cry from the Cascades, but it got me a breather from the crush of people in LA. I was once dead stopped on the freeway at midnight. “Rush hour” was a misnomer in LA. The “rush” lasted all day and into the night.

I lived there when the 1984 Olympics were held. I attended the trials (I was a javelin thrower in college, and watched a bunch of the guys that I used to compete against at the trials), but there was so much fear of how bad the traffic and congestion would be that pretty much the entire city went on vacation during the Olympics, and my office shut down for the entire two weeks, and I hiked in the mountains for a week of it. Traffic was lighter than ever during the Olympics, to everybody’s surprise. Near Skid Row was about a square city block of wiry grass called Pershing Square. It had an underground parking lot, and the ground level was grass, where legions of homeless people could be found. Pershing Square was about the only patch of lawn in or near downtown Los Angeles, but it was deeply tainted by its environment, like those bedraggled trees growing out of the sidewalks. People walked briskly past Pershing Square.

About two weeks before the Olympics, I walked past Pershing Square and was stunned. Flowerbeds had been planted, and there was a popcorn vendor in a shiny new stand (there were a few new stands like that dotting Pershing Square’s perimeter), and the homeless were gone. I later discovered what had happened. I had already read some stories about how the City of LA built an internment camp for the homeless east of downtown, to put on LA’s best face during the Olympics. That was where the homeless had disappeared to when I saw the makeover that Pershing Square received. A few days later, Martin Luther King Jr.’s widow presided over the grand opening of the new Pershing Square. I read her speech, and she said that the new Pershing Square would be a “wonderful place for a family to spend the afternoon.” I was flabbergasted. They put a fresh coat of paint on hell, temporarily removed its denizens, and they acted like it was a new Disneyland. It was a Potemkin Park.

Of all the disheartening aspects of my life in LA, the air pollution was one of the worst. My mentor’s engine:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

would have eliminated almost all urban air pollution (carbon dioxide would have been almost its sole pollutant), and I had yet to hear about free energy, but the desire to end air pollution became very strong in me during my LA days. A few air pollution anecdotes should make it clearer, if it is not already. I had a friend in Riverside from my trip to Europe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

whom I regularly visited, and we would hike at Idyllwild, which was on a plateau on the far east end of the LA basin. On the drive out of the basin up to Idyllwild one summer’s day, there was a scenic viewpoint, at around a thousand meters elevation or so, where you could look out across the LA basin. That was before I had a camera, and I wish I had a picture of what I saw that day. The view from that spot stretched across the entire LA basin and beyond, with more than fifty miles of visibility that day. Part of the reason for LA’s intense air pollution is because it is ringed by mountains and an inversion layer can form, locking the pollution in the basin. It was that way that day. As I looked out across the LA basin, it was like looking out at the ocean, but the ocean was black. The entire LA basin was an impenetrable sea of black air, but my viewpoint was above it. And dotting the basin like islands in the ocean were the tops of the mountains around the LA basin, poking through the black air. I remember thinking, “I live down there in that blackness.”

During my LA days, I also traveled a lot. In those three years working in the Big Eight, I was out of town on engagements for about six months. I burned out on business travel in those days. One day, I was on a plane that was coming in for landing at LA International airport (LAX), in Inglewood. While we were high in the air and looking down, the lights of LA looked pretty normal. But as the plane came in for landing, it flew through the smog layer. Suddenly, there was a mass of brown air flowing past our windows, kind of like a sludge. It looked like we were a submarine sailing through a sewer. The passengers all shrieked in disgust and horror. And LAX is on the ocean, where the smog was tame compared to the inland areas.

I’ll tell one last smog story. In Seattle, today at my office, it has been sunny for the past few days, and the distant air over the Cascades looks tinged with brown. It is air pollution (nitrous oxide), but it takes several days of sunny weather for the air pollution to become obvious. Once in a great while, an inversion layer forms in the summer, and once I almost smelled ozone, in fourteen years of living here for this stint. That is how Seattle’s air pollution is – not much of an issue. The rain saves us, although Puget Sound does not appreciate it.

LA is ringed with mountain ranges, but when I lived there, you virtually never saw them. I am not kidding – the San Gabriel Mountains behind LA were visible for maybe twenty days a year. The rest of the time, the smog hid them. Once every few years, we would get a storm that would provide the kind of backdrop for the skyscrapers that are at this link:

http://myultralife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/610x.jpg

That kind of scene is often on LA postcards, but in my years in LA, I saw it about once, and it is a vivid memory. I visited my parents in Ventura often during my LA days, and one Sunday I drove back to Redondo, right after a rain, and as I drove down the San Fernando Valley, I was amazed to see the downtown skyscrapers from twenty miles away or so, with the snowy mountains behind them. I saw that calendar shot. The next morning, I had to drive back into the San Fernando Valley. At about 8:30 AM, I drove over Sepulveda Pass, which separates the beach cities and West LA from the San Fernando Valley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepulveda_Pass

I was wondering what kind of view I would get, about fourteen hours after I saw that calendar shot scene the evening before. I could not even see across the Valley. The mountains were completely obscured by the smog bank. It took the smog bank less than one rush hour to recover to its mountain-hiding best. It was awesome.

Gotta go to bed now. As I look at my outline, I am not even halfway done with my LA days posts. When I finish them, I will likely consolidate them into a couple of posts, for easier archival reading.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Ah Ernie:

You make me laugh sometimes, buddy, in a good way. :) Again, impatience is my Achilles’ heel:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

and I get to work on it all the time, especially at Avalon! :) You may recall that I got an inventor-itis post almost once a day when I joined Avalon, with people wondering if this or that inventor “had it,” wanted to play FE tinkerer, and other rabbit-hole posts. Others wanted to close their eyes to the darkness and make it go away, and so on. Those distractions come far less frequently these days, and this thread is finally beginning to get centered on my intentions. Ilie starting that “what becomes obsolete with FE” thread is one of the welcome signs that my Avalon efforts have not been in vain.

So, while Butangeld’s post may have seemed oxymoronic to you, that was a welcome post for me. It was not so off-topic as it may seem, but was another engagement with the FE conundrum, and a somewhat novel one. This conundrum has many facets, and yes, you are right in that almost the entire world is mired in scarcity and cannot even imagine abundance today. However, with the choir that is slowly forming here, I think that more will begin to imagine it. That movie Thrive will definitely be singing the FE song, and my work is intended to go deeply into the issue. Not so much from a FE physics angle, as Sandy was relieved to hear, but from other aspects. Again, my “specialization” was in the political-economic dynamics, and it was not until many years later that I discovered that I was a comprehensivist (you call it generalist).

Gotta go to work now.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Sorry for any hurt feelings. I meant it as constructive criticism. But I admit I might have been a little harsh. Still, I stand by the gist of that post. Apologies, Butangeld. I know you meant well, and as Wade says, it was a novel concept. Of course we think abundantly. That's what meditation is for - to quiet the mind of its constant thinking. Thanks for the input. Keep 'em coming.

[Wade Frazier]

Ah Ernie:

It is all good. Thanks for being here. I take your observations seriously. They come from a real place, always.

Love,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 5

I am going to lighten up the LA Days a little. It was not all bad by any means. I met some of my best friends in LA. While I was precocious and a prodigy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

my childhood was pretty normal. I was an athlete, was given music lessons until it became obvious that I had no musical ability, and had a pretty normal baby-boomer, tract home existence while growing up. I was placed in organized baseball in the second grade, and my father took my brother and me to our first Dodgers game when I was about ten. I became a pitcher, and eventually a collegiate javelin thrower and high jumper. I got “imprinted” on sports, especially baseball, basketball and eventually, golf. Jerry West was my hero growing up, and I encountered him in the Lakers’s back office one day, and in an instant of eye contact, I could tell how much of a people person he was, in a good way.

Mr. Professor:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

was raised on a North Dakota farm, and when he was about twelve years old, he saw his first basketball game, when the Lakers (when they were the Minneapolis Lakers) played an exhibition game at a local gymnasium. He moved to California at about the same time that the Lakers did. He was a javelin thrower and discus thrower in college who won the state discus throw, and I almost had my junior college school record in the javelin throw (I missed it by less than a foot). So, we had plenty in common besides accounting and Dennis.

The last time that I saw him alive was in the late 1990s in New Jersey, as we helped out Dennis in the accounting area. Mr. Professor’s diabetes complications got so bad that he could no longer sleep lying down, and slept in a chair in the building’s TV room, and as fate would have it, the Lakers were in the playoffs (the Kobe and Shaq days, before they started winning championships), and we watched the Lakers games together. Because that was the last thing that we did together while he was alive, I doubt that I can ever totally shake being a Lakers fan. I once was able to watch a Lakers game from a couple of rows behind Jack Nicholson, during Magic Johnson’s Showtime era, and being a basketball player myself when younger, it was an awesome experience to watch those giants playing at such a high level up close. It was a lot different than seeing it on TV.

Because I was a pitcher and Dodgers fan, Sandy Koufax was a god to me, even though he retired before I became interested in baseball. It is ironic to me today that I follow sports at all. I have refused to participate in any kind of competitive activity for nearly fifteen years, but I still follow sports. I wonder if I will finally lose interest in this lifetime, or if FE happens and competitive anything becomes an obsolete idea. My wife likes it that I follow sports, as it makes me more “normal.” :)

When I lived in Culver City, during the first year of my Big Eight career, I was not working the long hours quite yet, and I was quite the movie buff when growing up. I watched Star Wars nine times in the theaters, and Raiders of the Lost Ark about twelve times. At night, my apartment in Culver City was only a ten minute drive from Westwood, which was next to UCLA and Beverly Hills. It was about the only place in the entire LA basin where walking at night was not only safe but fun. I went to movies constantly, in Westwood and in Beverly Hills. I saw plenty of art and foreign films. Academy Award nominee movies played at those venues, and Academy members attended such showings for free. I was constantly running into movie stars. I never approached any of them, but they were as thick as flies in Westwood, Century City and Beverly Hills. Sometimes I worked out of our Century City office, and parked in Beverly Hills neighborhoods for free and walked into the office. In Beverly Hills, the rich tried to recreate the yards and gardens of the Pacific Northwest, with their imported water and Mexican gardeners, but they could never quite pull it off. And in those more innocent days, somebody could park a beat up Pinto in front of their house for the day for free, as he worked in Century Plaza. :) I gave pals from out-of-town tours sometimes, and if they wanted to see a movie star, I would take them to my haunts, and it would not be long until we ran into one. Nobody approached the movie stars that I ever saw. People left them alone to live their lives. I often found myself in social situations with movie stars and other celebrities, and they were often kind of invisible, not seeking attention. I think that they got enough of it already, and wanted to just be treated normally when they were not playing the celebrity game.

If you had enough money, LA was livable, as you paid others to do the dirty work. But for the rest of us who had to drive during “Rush Hour,” audit sweatshops and work in Skid Row, it was not so pleasant. I escaped LA whenever I could. If somebody offered me a million dollars a year to work in LA, I would tell them that it was not enough money. I never want to see the place again.

About half of my friends during my LA days were either in the entertainment business, were trying to break into it, or used to be in it. My friends and even family members were actors, musicians, writers, directors, producers, managers, support staff, and so on. Just as a kid raised in fishing village probably became a fisherman, kids raised around LA often went into entertainment. I acted on stage, to audiences of a thousand sometimes, while growing up. I did some Hollywood auditions when young. I had some talent (due to my artisan soul role, most likely http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael). So, I grew up around aspiring actors and actresses, athletes, musicians, etc. Some made it, but most didn’t. Or they had their brief moments in the sun, but then their careers soon ended. Those fields are insanely competitive. For every Tom Cruise, thousands never make it, but end up waiting on tables, driving cabs, and so on. I helped support some of my aspiring pals at times, as they would go years between paychecks. They would get a $250K payday, and then nothing for years. That kind of feast or famine aspect is endemic in the business.

I once knew a guy who was a porn flick producer. He was an aspiring screenwriter, but producing porn flicks paid the bills until he got his break (which never came). One of the cute girls in my high school classes became a porn magazine model a few years out of high school, which was quite the event at the local liquor store when that issue came out. That was just part of the terrain. I had my fair share of babe girlfriends while growing up in a Southern California beach town. One became a model, and others could have.

So, because of my close association with the entertainment business and the media, it was doubly shocking to see how the media treated Dennis and our efforts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

That was a brutal way to wake up to the dark side of all of that stuff.

Well, I am off to go climb a mountain. I may not make another post until next week, depending on how the climbing goes. It is not technical, but it is scrambly in parts, and it looks like I will be doing it in snow. I am not really looking forward to it, but it has been planned for years with one of my college roomies.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

Enjoy and safe hiking to all >>>>>>>>>>:)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thanks Wade and all who post here, it has been an honor.

This thread and Illie's along with Ulli's (Ilie and Ulli, funny) are truly an inspiration.

Wade, you know where I am if you need me (why I have no idea). Perhaps we will meet in our dreams and go for a hike in the mountains together one day.

Love you all!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Well, play time is over for now. I just got back from climbing Mount Saint Helens. We got “weathered out” before we got to the top. Visibility was less than a hundred meters, and when it began sleeting on us (and the snow likely got thick higher up), less than two thousand feet from the top, it was time to turn back. Of the forty people with permits to climb that day, I doubt that any made it to the top. A bunch who already turned around, defeated, passed us as we ascended. We had not even gotten to the hard part yet, but what we climbed up looked like the moon. I’ll probably be back on a sunny day, if I am lucky. People have to reserve a spot several months in advance.

My next LA days posts will go back into the not-so-fun stuff, such as how I was damaged by the experience, damage that I still suffer from, and how it improbably launched me into my days with Dennis. As usual, it ended up being way larger than life. I’ll try to get those posts done in the next week or two, and then I will be concentrating on that Brian O essay.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

More LA Days posts coming soon, but first, yesterday, I had another elevator experience with the Orwellian Telescreen. The screen had a blurb that said something like, “Most of the IEDs used in Afghanistan by insurgents against the USA’s troops came from Pakistan.” I’ll bet that about thirty years ago in [I]Pravda, the following headline could be found: “Most of the missiles and weaponry used in Afghanistan by insurgents against the CCCP’s troops came from Pakistan.” Of course, almost all of that materiel was made in the USA, as the USA eventually admitted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#brzezinski

The biggest CIA operation ever was arming and training those Afghani “insurgents,” at a price tag of between $3 to $6 billion, and Arab rich boy Osama bin Laden became the USA’s poster boy for the “jihad.”

The irony can be overwhelming at times, but passes unnoticed, all memory and context disappearing down the memory hole:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell

It is really amazing to live in the world that Orwell foresaw, while everybody denies that it happened very closely to how he envisioned it.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 6:

In LA, if people were friendly toward me, especially if we just met, it was usually because they were trying to get something from me. Some wanted me to be their boy toy, both heterosexual and homosexual, and others wanted to get me into their Amway network as their down-line, and so on. I was such an innocent from the sticks in those days. Those Skid Row days were part of my baptism in the jungle, and it took me about a year before I learned to keep my eyes in front of me and to be wary of the friendly approach, in numerous kinds of social settings.

At work, the expectation was that we had to work hard and play hard. But, the lives of those around me were disasters. That dynamic will be seen in a few posts, but here is a preview. I was expected to eat meat and drink alcohol. If I did not, it was considered a “career-limiting move.” I gave up being a vegetarian during those years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm

and developed a drinking problem that I did not kick until I was forty-two, just in time for my midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

If I drank during my monster of a midlife crisis, I may not be alive today. Not only were we expected to eat meat and drink but, at least one night a week, we were supposed to attend cocktail parties. It was not really voluntary, like the United Way “charity” that we were supposed to give to, or all of the “charitable” activities that we were supposed to engage in. That so-called “charitable” activity was intended to create business opportunities. The captains of business were expected to join charities and run them. It was really a way to put a smiley face on capitalism, as I later learned. Charity is a poor substitute for justice, but capitalism throwing a few public crumbs to its victims was part of the act.

The ideal cocktail party experience was about ninety minutes long, where you talked to thirty people for three minutes each. It was all about “mingling” and creating social arrangements that could be exploited for business opportunities. Like so many things, they rarely openly admitted what it was really all about, but sometimes they did. After a couple of years of endless phony cocktail parties, a manager told me that they kept lists of those who did not attend the parties. Failing to attend was indeed a “career-limiting move.” I eventually developed a social phobia, being endlessly forced into those phony social situations. There were several reasons why they were phony. Being semi-voluntary was one of them. Also, the very people I was socializing with were the bodies that I would have to crawl over to the top. I wanted no part of crawling to the top (you had to work there two years to get your CPA license, and some people quit on their second anniversary date), but one partner who counseled me said it bluntly: if I wanted to advance in the company, I had to crawl over the bodies of my peers. It created a shark-tank environment, and I saw such highly dysfunctional lives that it blew me away. I don’t have time this morning to describe all of it, but here is an example.

One of my college roomies ended up in the Big Eight in Costa Mesa, which was the other end of the world compared to downtown LA. It was like comparing frolicking on the beach with surviving in Blade Runner’s Los Angeles. But even in Costa Mesa, his counseling partner (you were assigned a manager and partner to mentor you) said that he blew through three marriages on his way to making partner, and it was a price that he was happy to pay. You rarely heard it admitted aloud like that, but most partners thought that way, I believe.

I attended Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, which was an entirely different universe than LA, kind of like comparing Bonanza to Blade Runner. It was fairly common to see people who either got some degree in the humanities or joined the military upon high school graduation, or they just worked for a living after high school. They eventually figured out that if they wanted to be able to comfortably retire before they were seventy, they had better get a marketable skill, and many of those older students, about ten years older than the rest of us, were pretty common, and they were usually great students who had no interest in learning how to drink and have sex. They knew what they were there for, and studied hard. One of my fellow students was about ten years older than me. She was also at the top of the class, she was married, and her husband also attended Cal Poly. She graduated about a year ahead of him, and she moved to the San Fernando Valley upon graduation, while he finished up in San Luis Obispo. When I went back with Dennis in 1996-1997 in New Jersey, my wife lived in the Bay Area, playing nanny to her sister’s infant children. I saw my wife once a month for about six months, and the entire experience was like a bad dream. I highly sympathize with couples who are separated like that. It can be hard on the marriage.

Well, my older pal wanted no part of the Big Eight shark tank when she graduated, and hired on with a small, regional firm in The Valley. Even so, she still worked the long hours during tax season (like 70-80 hour weeks), and it put a strain on her marriage. She made an appointment to meet with her counseling manager, and told her what the work strain was doing to her marriage. The response from her counseling manager was essentially, “Then you should get a divorce. What do you need him for?” That was not the dog-eat-dog Big Eight, but the kinder, gentler existence at a small regional firm in The Valley.

Time to run of to work now. More coming soon.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Wow, this so similar to my experience in the corporate world :biggrin:. I did not have a mentor, and looking back I've made a lot of "career-limiting moves" that explain a lot of things... I used to speak my mind about the phony "networking" and that obviously did not make me very popular :). The feeling I got is that most of my colleagues where enjoying this, and they were cut out for this kind of interaction...

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 7:

I will get to some of the dysfunction that I saw in the lives around me soon, but I want to give some idea of what life was like in LA, to help illuminate maybe why their lives were so dysfunctional.

I mentioned the fierce air pollution in an earlier post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=321647&viewfull=1#post321647

but the denizens of LA did their best to ignore it. Almost everybody that I knew was not from LA, but had migrated there, often from the East Coast or Midwest; from New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, and so on. I had some pals from Chicago, and every year, when the Rose Bowl would be on on New Year’s Day, when it was usually sunny and 70 degrees, and the Midwest and East Coast would be having snow, another spurt of migration to LA would begin. There are literally stats on stuff like that. I lived in Boston, Ohio and New Jersey, so am no stranger to winter, but I’ll take snow over killer smog any day. But it was not that way for my weather-phobic friends from out east. During my first year in LA, in about February, I was visiting friends in The Valley and it was a first degree smog alert. If you were outside for long, especially if you did any exercise, your lungs would burn and you could not get a full lung of air, because of the ozone. Usually the summer was smog season, but on this day, it was February, and we had a first degree alert, because it was sunny and about 85 degrees. As I was visiting my friend from Chicago, his mother was visiting and another woman friend from Chicago was there.

The woman said to my friend’s mother how wonderful it was to have 85 degree and sunny weather in February, and I replied that I could not breathe. It literally did not matter to them. All that mattered was that it was 85 and sunny in February, smog be damned. I had yet to experience the snowy winters out east, but I had a hard time imaging that people would choose strangling air pollution over more extreme temperatures. But they did.

During my first year in LA, I had new tires put on my Pinto, at the local Sears store. I had not performed much maintenance on my car yet. A few days later, I was pulling into the REI parking lot to get some outdoor gear, and heard a sound come from my tire. As I parked, I resolved to investigate the sound, but promptly forgot to as I got out of the car. A couple of days later I was driving home on the 405 freeway, going about sixty miles per hour, when I heard a horrible rattling sound coming from my tire, and I quickly moved to the right lane and headed toward an off-ramp. Just as I got to the off-ramp, my tire fell off and it began rolling down the off-ramp as my axle skidded in the pavement. The Sears store did not properly tighten the lug nuts on my tires.

If that tire had fallen off when I was in the fast lane, I might be here to write this today. So, there I was in my suit and tie, running after my tire. I retrieved it, and was somehow able to get the jack under the axle and lift the car so I could get the tire on. I had to bend back some sheet metal that was bent as the car collapsed onto its axle, and I robbed a lug nut from the other tires and was able to limp home. I went to the Sears store and told them what had happened. I did not know what to expect. The guy (whom I bought the tires from a few days earlier) went into the back, and I heard him yelling in Spanish, and he came out with a lug nut to give me, and that was it. I vividly remember as I got home thinking, “That was no big deal, just another day in LA.” After that, I became my own mechanic, and stopped trusting the “professionals.” The hellish commutes, working in Skid Row, working in a shark tank – this was just how life was, and the tire incident did not really bother me.

About a year later, I was driving to work, stopped in traffic about a mile from downtown, in the “fast” lane closest to the median. My car window was down as it usually was, as it was my “air conditioning.” Sitting in traffic became kind of a meditation for me. The traffic going the other way – away from downtown – was moving at normal speed. A big truck (which turned out to be hauling liquor - not an 18-wheeler, but what is called a “straight truck”

http://safetycollege.ca/programs/straight-truck-driver ) made a loud braking noise in the outbound lanes and caught my attention. As it passed by me, within ten feet or so, on the other side of the median, it began to flip. After it passed me, I watched in my mirror, and I saw cars fly into the air, hit by the flipping truck. The entire event lasted maybe fifteen seconds. When it was over, the truck was upside down, with its tires pointing at the sky. I remember how quiet everything seemed after that truck came to a halt on its back. It became the traffic story of the morning, as traffic became backed up for miles as they cleared the accident. It was just another morning on the LA freeways. I once tried to help in the bloody aftermath of an accident on the freeway, using my Silva training to try to psychically stabilize a bleeding and partially comatose victim. Those kinds of events were memorable, but not really remarkable, not in the context of working and commuting in LA. My drinking problems began around the same time, and they may well have been related.

With those kinds of events being normal days in LA, I wonder how much it contributed to the lives of those around me. Because I am in the autism spectrum (closer to normal than Gates, Einstein or Newton, who all likely have/had Asperger’s), I am pretty oblivious to social cues and clues. Women usually had to throw themselves at me for a year before I did anything about it. So, what follows is a story that kind of epitomizes the catastrophes of the personal lives of my colleagues. I was oblivious to the situation, too, until the only colleague from those days that I kept in touch with told me about it, years later. This story begins on a banking job near the LAX airport. I was a staff auditor. My supervisor (a senior auditor) went to Cal Poly with me. She was also on the track team as a high jumper, and she was also a cheerleader. The lead manager on the job married a woman whom I went to high school with in Ventura. It can be a small world at times. The head senior on the job had a wife who was several months pregnant with their first child. The lead manager who married my high school chum somehow scheduled another manager on the job. That other manager was a married woman about the other manager’s age – late twenties, and she was with him on other jobs. That kind of chumminess was common in the office, where pals would get on the same jobs together.

Near the airport were sleazy strip bars, and on our audit, we went to one for lunch at least once. I think it was just the guys, but I thought that it was kind of strange that we would be having lunch at a strip joint (and it was the first time that I ever saw a place like that). When the audit was finished about a month later, the lead manager took us out for a celebration, to that strip joint. The attendees were that lead manager and his manager sidekick, the senior with the pregnant wife, the cheerleader senior, that buddy whom I kept in touch with, and me. The six of us sat at that table in the strip joint and were boisterous patrons. The strippers were also the waitresses, rotating stripping and waitressing duties, and one took her top down right at our table, I suppose because the lead manager was tipping lavishly. That night was one of my life’s strangest. I did not know what to make of it, taking women colleagues to a strip joint. A few months later, that head senior had a pool party at his house, to further celebrate that audit. I was pretty much into my full-blown social phobia by then, and wanted to be anywhere else but at that pool party. The party was attended by all of the people at that strip joint event, and they brought their spouses along, including that high school chum. I stayed just long enough to not be insulting. I later heard that the pool party turned into a drunken affair that lasted into the night, and ended with some teary altercations. I am glad that I was not there for it.

At that time, I lived in Redondo Beach, and that former cheerleader lived about a mile from me. She had a roommate whose situation was like that situation that I presented in the previous post; the roommate graduated from Cal Poly, was married, and her husband was still at Cal Poly, finishing his degree. I visited them once, to go over some work papers on a job that I was handing over to the roommate.

A few years later, after I quit public accounting and was with Dennis, my buddy that I kept in touch with told me what was happening on that audit. That manager who married my high school chum was sleeping with that other manager. They eventually left their spouses, got married, and had a family. The head senior with the pregnant wife was sleeping with the cheerleader, who tried to get him to leave his wife. He may have showed some “character” when he decided to not leave his pregnant wife for the cheerleader. Not to be deterred, the cheerleader eventually stole her roommate’s husband away, and married him. My buddy divorced his wife not long after that. When I heard all of that, years later, it was incredible to me. Peyton Place had nothing on that situation, and I was oblivious to it as it happened under my nose. Those two philandering husbands eventually made partner. They never got caught. When I was on another job with that buddy, on the city government of a California beach town, the senior on that job got caught in bed with his wife’s best friend. Unlike those other philandering husbands, he got caught, which ended his career.

Was I seeing an unusual situation? I doubt it. It was just life in LA. When I have told that story to friends over the years, I have openly wondered if I was seeing the effects of the hedonistic 1980s, the effect of living in LA, or the effects of high-pressure careers. We have generally come to the conclusion that it was a little bit of each.

In the end, it was another aspect of my LA existence that ultimately propelled me on my journey with Dennis and beyond.

Gotta run to work now.

Best,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

Hmmmmm Wade...Lots of LA, CA intertwined memories and somewhat similar experiences...oh my!

Thanks for sharing. Made me go through my own memory files of the times from '77 to '79 in southern Cal : )

As Ilie stated...I think many of Us that connect this way have had some interesting and somewhat similar experiences that bring Us here together.

[Wade Frazier]

Here is a little Steve Jobs eulogy. Growing up in Southern California and going to Cal Poly, along with stints of trying to live in Seattle, gave me a certain perspective on the high tech field, which I am in today. In college, my programming and information systems classes were way too easy for me. After college, I tried to get into the Big Eight’s computer systems consulting arm, and even got an interview with the leading company, but fell about one programming class short. In late 1983, my Big Eight accounting firm bought three thousand of the first Macintoshes, as we began using personal computers for our audits. Before then, it was all paper spreadsheets, ten-key adding machines, pencils, and vinyl erasers. My first computer for my personal use was a Mac Plus, bought in 1989.

When we used the first Macs, hard drives had not come out yet, so all of our data was on floppy disks. The first software that we used was vended by Apple, but in the second year, we began using software by a company named Microsoft. I used the predecessor of Excel (Multiplan) and Word. I liked the stuff, and when that voice told me to move to Seattle in March 1986:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

I wanted to work for Microsoft, and could have landed a job with them. If I had, I would not be working for a living today, but I also would not have met Dennis. As traumatic as my ride with Dennis was, I am glad that I took the path that I did. As will become evident later, that was one of several “forks in the road” that was offered up to me, and several times I could have fallen away from Dennis as other temptations were dangled in front of me.

After my Big Eight days, my professional machines were always Windows machines, and I ended up joining the “evil empire” on the personal computer front in 1995, but I really wanted to stay in the Apple camp, but by that time, it had become a niche product for graphics design people and grandmothers, so when the PowerPC ended up not really being able to emulate a Windows machine very well, I had to leave Apple behind. But, they made the best stuff when Jobs was at the helm. His creative genius, and working backward from the user experience, is what made Apple what it was. Mr. Mentor:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

had the Jobs-like genius. Very few technical types have it; they tend to be plodders. The greatest breakthroughs in physics and technology usually had creative insight to thank for it, not left brain analytics:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash

The greatest geniuses had both, with the right and left sides of their brains working together. To also have the heart in charge is when inventors can truly become dangerous to the status quo. Dennis and Mr. Mentor were like that.

What Jobs did was unique in the high tech field. He made stuff that everybody wanted to use, because that was his intention. That is almost an afterthought at companies like Microsoft. I bought my wife an iPhone and my mother an iPad. An Interview with John Scully last year really told it well, I think:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_44/b4201096309840.htm

Jobs will be greatly missed.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

Hey Guys,

Just had to add that it was really no different for the ladies either, at least in my case...................networking>>>plastic city, sexual escapades every where and it all boils down to power and control>>>>>>>>>>>>>I walked away from my highly successful partnership and business and 3 Accounting Partners as I couldn't hack the greed, dishonesty, arrogance and hidden agendas that prevailed all communication.

However this did not change the sick environment of the world I witnessed as in stepping down and working the front lines again the same dynamics prevail in the middle and lower end jobs as well. Competition, low esteem, power tripping on and on is a human condition and when one stops playing or never played or even knew of these games>............naivety becomes a thing of the past.

All apart of the social condition (ing) and I have witnessed it from within my home growing up as a child, in the work force at large, in society at large, thus the dynamics of the state the world as it lays before us, for all who have the courage to see.

[lightseeker]

Thank you Wade and welcome.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Sandy:

Yes, everybody is playing the scarcity game! :) Whatever level of the game people are playing at, they are still playing. I have bunch of psychologist pals, and sexual abuse is one of the most common ones that are treated. Some pals catered to the lower-end economic strata, and the hillbilly cliché of abusing daughters is alive and well. Many years ago, when this subject was discussed, one of my pals served the affluent, and after hearing a hillbilly tale, I said to my friend that she probably did not have to deal with that kind of stuff in her practice. She replied that yes, she did. The only difference was that Dad wore designer jeans instead of overalls.

Hi lightseeker.

Happy reading,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

You know that feeling when you find a book that you think it should be read by everyone and you wonder why is not mandatory :biggrin:?

Well, I've "stumbled" on such a book. The book is "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch.

I post this here as I feel its message is connected to the Free Energy issue and the current state of affairs on this planet.

And I must thank Wade and God Herself for pointing out this book to me :) (along with the writings of Fuller, Michael Roads, Joseph Chillon Pearce, Seth and many others)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

I don’t get any credit for Pearce. :) Yes, a lot of CWG is practical. There are also absurdities in them, and Walsch got a little too sucked up into Hollywood, but there is a lot of good stuff in them. There are many names for what can be considered “High Teachings,” and many are of a mystical nature. The best mystical stuff that I know of is, in the end, designed to assist us in living our Earthly lives, providing unusual insight, often from otherworldly perspectives. Improving life on Earth is always going to be, at its root, an economic issue, at least while we are living in scarcity. Once we resolve the scarcity issue and the threats that our current ways pose to each other and to our fellow species, then we will get to move up Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs a notch or two, and stop playing the survival game, the follow the rules game, the “I win, you lose” game (those three games are the games of Michael’s infant, baby and young souls http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael), and so on.

And, if it is about economics, then it is about energy above all, because energy runs the show, literally. Money is meaningless. Energy runs the real economy. Love is also the energy of Creation, so FE and ideas like Heaven on Earth are joined at the hip, and they merge pretty seamlessly with the “High Teachings.” I have taken those teachings to heart, and applied them to my journey, and I know that the only path to FE that anybody should really consider is the loving path:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#stage1

I can’t overemphasize that too much. That is a big reason why I advocate the lamb’s path to FE. Not only has it never been tried before, it also aligns with the end goal.

So, yes, I think that work like CWG, Roads, Fuller, Seth, Michael, and so on, is right down the FE alley, so to speak. In the end, all of them are just teaching aids. We are the ones who have to do the work.

On a different topic, here is my Orwellian elevator moment of the morning...

In the USA right now, there are protests about how Wall Street essentially owns Washington D.C., with a big sit-in in Manhattan as I write this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Occupy_Wall_Street

Obama has made public and conciliatory comments about it, and the protests are spreading beyond Wall Street. I was in several peace marches before the USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. I was also in a march, marching beside the former governor of Washington, the night before the 1999 WTO meeting began, the day before it got ugly. I only marched for positive statements, never “protest.” Protesting comes from the victim mentality. If 1% of the “protestors” instead focused on making FE happen, we would have had it long ago. That is one of many facets of the conundrum. Just yesterday, the Seattle police busted the Seattle version of the Wall Street protests, throwing people into jail (I first wrote this in the morning, before the Republicans in DC began calling the protests “mobs” – how quaint :) ). The militant protestors, like the Black Bloc fools (for those who aren’t provocateurs) act out of adolescent “rebelliousness” and are worse than worthless for enabling positive change. They are playing the Young Warrior game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

But, the Seattle protestors were all peaceful as the police carried them out of there. I should not need to tell anybody about how USA’s urban cops often love busting heads. The Rodney King beating was just a day at the office for the LAPD, only that one got filmed.

But, the meme of the violent, civilization-threatening protestor had to be reinforced this morning in the elevator, with its vocabulary-building word of the day. The word was “debellate.” Yeah, I never heard of it, either. And the sentence the Telescreen used it in was: “The policeman debellated the angry protestor.” The Orwellian messages in the elevator are usually more subtle than that, but they need to get more forceful as the masses gets restless.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Wade, one of greviances by GC which OWS lists is suppresion of alternative energy :)

I was going to ask you about Seatle protest :) I am really supporting all those protests with all my heart. But many here on Avalon are afraid of this protest is initiated by GC or is going to be stealed like Tea Party...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:

Can you give a link to OWS mentioning FE? If they are, that would be interesting. What Level of the game are they playing? Again, “protest” means that the elites are already setting their agenda, GC involvement or not. Co-opting a protest becomes easy, when they are already setting themselves up against something.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

If OWS is anything like the Tea Party, it is already doomed. The Tea Party was never interesting, IMO, and beauty queens taking it over was no great surprise.

The Seattle protest was a bunch of scruffy looking kids and what looked like college students. I think that OWS is going to be largely comprised of people who are unemployed or virtually so.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 8:

As I have stated, the year that I lived in Culver City, I went to the movies in Westwood and Beverly Hills all the time. When I moved to Redondo Beach, where I spent my last two years during my first stint working in LA, I was rather isolated from all of that, living in a beach enclave. My first year, even though I was in Skid Row for much of it, was not all that stressful. The next year, with the seventy-hour weeks during the busy season, was when I began having stress problems. During my first job out of college, at that small CPA firm in Seattle, I had a headache every waking hour for my entire three-month tenure there. I thought that maybe it had to do with the climate change, but I now know that it was my first stress episode. My second busy season in LA saw the stress symptoms return. My social phobia and drinking problems were pretty well established by then, and in that second busy season, I began to get shortness of breath. I could not get a full lungful of air. I suspected that it was stress-related, but I was not sure. When the busy season ended in March, the symptoms went away. And right at that time, I went to the beach that I lived a couple of blocks from, on a sunny April Saturday. As I walked on the beach for the first time since I moved there, it hit me that the previous six months of my life was a blur of working. Six months of my life was gone, just like that. I kind of resented having my life go past in a blur of long hours at the office.

I also developed tendinitis in my knees and shoulders in those days; the former college athlete discovered that he could not sit at a desk for six months and go climb mountains or play baseball. I learned valuable lessons about my mortality in those days, and learned to manage my body. That is why I looked forward to whipping the athletic midlife crisis in minutes. But you don’t get to have the midlife crisis of your choosing. :)

In college, I betrayed a friend. It was a sexual betrayal. It was a pretty small sin in retrospect, admitted by all involved, but it was the greatest crime of my life, and it helped turn me into the most loyal friend that anybody could hope for. It probably had something to do with sacrificing my life to spring Dennis from jail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

Two of my teachers went through the Casanova midlife crisis with their high school students (one went to prison, and other had his career end – both were 42 when they did it – or at least got caught doing it, and I knew both of them, and when it happened, I was not too surprised), and I looked forward to whipping that midlife crisis in minutes, too. But mine was something entirely different, and it snuck in my back door while I waited for it on my front porch:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

But in LA, I was many years from my midlife crisis, just trying to survive. I fasted on the rare occasions when I was by myself on jobs, but the meat and restaurant food eating, and the alcohol, took its toll. Friends said that I stunk in those days, with my body a kind of toxic waste dump.

When the next busy season came, back came the breathing problems. That winter was when I was out of town on that big Savings and Loan audit, and eventually found out about the Easter Bunny:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#getting

I was on that job because I was kind of a lost waif in the office. Nobody was volunteering for the job. When that audit was over and I went back to LA, the breathing problems did not go away. For the next year, I gasped for air every waking hour. I had my two years in by then, and planned to try to get a job in Seattle that summer. By that time, there was no more going to movies after work during the week. On the weekends, I just hung around the house and drank. Also, compact discs had just come out, and I went crazy that year buying CDs, being an audio freak. That summer, I went to Seattle and looked for work. I was not able to land anything in a couple of weeks up there. I figured that I was pretty marketable by that time, and I was right, but in two weeks in the summer, I was unable to land anything. I decided that the only way that I would be able to get in in Seattle was to save up a war chest and spend a year looking for work up there.

I was also quite the mystical student, and spent lots of time in places like the Bodhi Tree bookstore (I found Roads’s first book in a bookstore near my home in those Redondo Beach days), was involved in several spiritual groups, sometimes running them. And I did “healing” work in those days:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=194267&viewfull=1#post194267

I came to realize that the New Age scene in LA was largely bogus. For every real person, there were a hundred pretenders. The relatively few men in the scene (the New Age scene was about 80-90% women) were usually in “guru” roles and used their position to get laid:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

and perform other abuses of their positions. And like Sandy posted, the women played along, too. No victims there. One of the greatest hazards that I have faced in my work is New Agey women (often from LA) who want to turn me into some kind of New Age hero. When I reject the role that they try to stuff me into, then their claws come out. My “fan base” is primarily comprised of post-menopausal women, and my “enemy base” is partly comprised of my “peers” – white, educated, American men:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#peers

All of my close friends’ mothers kind of adopted me when I was growing up. They all wanted me for their son, and that dynamic has been with me for my entire life, which amuses my wife.

Driving on the LA freeways everyday was quite an experience. It was actually safer during rush hour, because the drivers were all “professionals,” and knew that they would not live long playing freeway squirrel. The weekends were when the crazies came out. While driving one day, I got an idea for a bumper sticker. It was a picture of a horned Viking helmet, with crossed battleaxes below it, with a caption saying, “Freeway Warrior.” It was just a little ahead of its time, as a couple of years later, people began shooting at each other on the LA freeways, and “Road Rage” became a phenomenon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_rage

I did not live or work there when it began, but when I heard about it, it was no surprise.

I am nearing the end of my LA Days posts, at least my first stint in LA. When my breathing problems did not go away in the spring, and my summer of 1985 attempt to get a job in Seattle came up empty, I resigned myself to being trapped in LA for a long time. I also decided to go to a doctor for my breathing problems. Even back then, I would only go to holistic doctors, and I got a physical examination (and did not have another one for twenty-five years). My doctor said that my breathing problems were textbook stress symptoms, and he advised me to quit my job before a health catastrophe befell me. It was nice advice, but I did not feel that I had an easy way out. I was also crazy loyal to my CPA firm, of all things, and did not want to leave them just when the busy season was starting, even though I really did not have much of a career there. Within weeks of that exam, I was kind of kicked out of my audit group, and the manager whom I worked for on that Savings and Loan audit the year before took me in, and I spent the winter out of town again (ironically, it is the same town that my wife was born and raised in, but she had already moved to the town that I was raised in, Ventura). Because my stress symptoms did not go away the previous spring, I could tell that the coming busy season was going to be a nightmare for me, and it was. My brain kind of stopped working. My entire body tingled, along with the shortness of breath, and I was unable to concentrate.

Then, one day it came to a head. I was obviously pretty useless at work, and I had a meeting with my manager. I would not be promoted in the spring, and in the Big Eight, it was “up or out.” But, I had been so insanely loyal that my manager said that I could leave on my terms. When that audit was over, I did not even have to come into the office in LA, but could just take time off and look for work. When I found a job to my liking, then they would let me leave. It was a very kind gesture from that manager, who was one of the “good guys” who made partner the next year. I was elated. Even though I was trapped in LA, I had at least arranged a graceful exit into industry. Big Eighters, even underachievers like me, were highly marketable. That winter, those of us who spent months on that audit did not have to live in a hotel like the previous winter, but I had my own furnished apartment.

That evening, I drove back to my apartment, ecstatic. It was the first “good news” that I had had in years. As I walked up to the door of my apartment and reached into my pocket for my key ring, it was not there. I had already had the voice in my head and other paranormal events, and I could hear The Twilight Zone music in my head as I fished in my pocket. I knew that I was being “f***ed with” by those unseen “friends” as my keys disappeared, and it was obviously related to my moment of light when I had that talk with my manager. When I was sixteen, my father gave me a grenade ring from his Marine days as my first key ring. That grenade ring is my key ring today. I have never lost my keys in my life, except for that night. That key ring had my apartment key and office keys on it. It was a kind of temporary key ring that did not have my car keys and other “permanent” keys on it. But I lost those keys, and knew that I had to have lost them between the office and my apartment. So I drove several miles back to the office to retrace my steps. My office was in a bad part of town, and the office was deserted at night. It was raining that night as I pulled into the parking lot. Just as I pulled into the parking lot, one of the most dramatic scenes of my life awaited me. There was a car in the deserted parking lot, driving after a woman who was running at my car. She ran up to my window, screaming, begging to be let in. It looked like the car was trying to run her over. I opened my passenger door and she got in as my car was still rolling. The other car that was following her did not follow me as I drove away.

As we pulled away from my office, I looked at my passenger. Her face was swollen, with one eye partially shut. She looked about eighteen years old, and a very rough eighteen years old. She quickly told the story of what had happened. She was a prostitute, and had just transacted a little business in the front seat of that car that was chasing her. When she finished her job, instead of paying her, the customer began beating her up. I don’t know if he intended to run her over or make her “disappear,” but rescuing that hooker was one of strangest nights of my life, and on the heels of being told that day that I could enjoy an easy exit from public accounting, I realized that there was a lot more than met the eye to that series of events. I knew that “they” were messing with me once again. I offered to drive the hooker to the hospital, but she declined the offer. We went to a store to get some medical supplies to treat her wounds. It turned out that she lived near my office, and I eventually took her home. Once I dropped her off, I still had to find my keys. I knew that something was “up,” and what happened next was surreal. As I drove into the deserted parking lot, about a hundred yards away, something gleamed in the headlight of my car like a beacon. I drove up to the gleaming, and it was my key ring. The alarm bells were ringing loudly, but I did not know why.

I gave the woman some money as I let her out of the car (after all, her customer did not pay her). The next day, while I was at the office, the receptionist told me that somebody came to the office looking for me. Then began my month of “me and the hooker.” She asked me for some more money, and I gave it to her. Working out of town was pretty lucrative for a yuppie. I saved a few thousand dollars that winter, as I recall. For the next week, whether I was at the office or at my apartment, that hooker would find me or call me, begging for money. She was going to milk this “rich guy” from out of town, and I let her. I did not have the heart to say no, and every day, she came up with a new story for why she needed money. She had a husband, and child that had been taken away from her by the county and was being raised in an orphanage. One day she asked for money for food. Another day it was for a gift for her child. She later admitted that it pretty much all went to drugs for her husband, and cigarettes. She eventually got bolder, and I got a call from her from her “office” on the street. She said that she wanted to take a bus to Nevada with her friends and have a nice day gambling and having fun, and if I gave her the money, she would not have to “go hooking” to earn that play money. Before you think I am the all-time sap, I was well aware of what was happening, but I was trying, in my naïve way, to help her out of the spiral that she was in. After about a week of this dance, I got a call from her, in jail. She had been picked up on the street by the cops for “solicitation.” She begged me to bail her out, and I did. I had a long talk with the bail bondsman, and he told me that people like here were not “worth it,” but as long as I was a paying customer, he would bail her out. Her bail was about $2K, as I recall, so I had to pay the bail bondsman $200 to post bail.

When she got out, she went right back to the streets. I spent some quality time with her during that month, and got to know some of how she ended up like she did. Her parents were hippies who first got her stoned when she was about seven, and that kind of “parenting” defined her life, she was on her own at around age sixteen. Prostitution was a way to make money. She was not all about milking the “rich guy.” She gave me a picture of her holding her daughter that I still have, a Polaroid shot that was likely one of her only pictures of her daughter. She even offered to “work off” what I gave her in sexual favors (an offer that I had no intention of accepting).

Her hearing came up in a couple of weeks, and she still hooked and we had our dance. I decided that I was going to limit my “investment” in this game to $1K, which is ultimately what it ended up costing me. On the day of the hearing, she did not show up, and the police found her on her normal street corner and jailed her, but not until after I had a fun conversation with the bail bondsman. Posting the bail bond was not the end of my liability. If she fled, I was liable for the entire $2K bond. I doubt that she intended to skip bail, but promptly forgot all about the situation after I bailed her out. She begged me once more from jail to bail her out, with all sorts of teary promises made. I told her that she needed to be in jail, and that bailing her out again (of course, the bail went way up for her, after skipping the courtroom appearance) was not going to happen.

She called me from jail more than once, and she accepted her condition. She was sentenced to about three months in the county jail. She said that she had learned her lesson and wanted to go to hairdresser school when she got out. Just before I moved back to LA, I mailed a postcard to jail, and wrote that best thing that she could do for her daughter was to get her life together, so she could become a responsible mother. I did not put my return address on the card, not wanting her to show up at my home in Redondo Beach in a few months. That was the last time that we communicated, and I would be greatly surprised if she really got her life together. I did not know what that was all about at the time, but I now think that it was some sort of “test” that my unseen friends were giving me.

I moved back home to Redondo and began seeking a job in “industry” (the accountant’s term for leaving public accounting). True to his word, my manager began trying to find me a job. I also contacted the recruiters (called headhunters in the industry). I was indeed marketable, but I was also beat. I had dark rings under my eyes. My friends later said that I looked a raccoon. I was so beat that I could not handle the idea of commuting on the LA freeways anymore. I wanted a job close to home in Redondo, or I would also consider getting a job in the Costa Mesa/Newport Beach area, and I let my manager know that.

A recruiter quickly got me an interview in the internal audit department of a famous fast food conglomerate, in Costa Mesa. I still laugh when I think about that interview. I said something like, “I don’t have to work overtime, do I?” That was probably the absolute worst thing to say. I was not exactly an eager go-getter at that moment. That interview was on a Friday, and they said that they would get back to me the next week. I got away to my friends’ place in Bishop that weekend, and on Monday I got several pieces of news. First, I got a call from my manager, who got me a phone interview with a bank near Newport Beach. It was a kind of gofer job for the bank president, of a pretty small bank. I was not too interested, but I am not sure if I was really interested in much of anything. At that time, I was willing to consider waiting on tables in Redondo, I was so burned out. Then I got a call from my manager, who lined up another interview for me. When I called and talked with them, asking where their office was, it turned out to be in one of the industrial wasteland towns that I did not want to come close to. That morning I also talked to the recruiter who got me my interview at that fast food company. I naturally blew that interview. I also signed up with another recruiter in LA, and his only lead so far was with that same fast food company. I called my manager, and said that the second interview that he set me up with was in an industrial wasteland. He tried to nicely tell me that I had to go where the opportunities were, and there weren’t too many that were close to the beach towns.

So, about eight years after that voice told me to go study business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

after I felt backed into a corner by forces beyond my control, I ended up in the same corner, but in far worse shape than when I was nineteen years old. I had hit rock bottom once again. For the second and so far last time in my life, I prayed for guidance, with all my heart.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

The next morning, the voice spoke up again. It was not as dramatic as when it told me to go study business, but within the first hour, the voice said, “Hey, you can starve as easily in Seattle as here, but you would like the experience better. What do you have to lose?” Like the “study business” message, that thought was totally alien to me. I had given up on living in Seattle anytime soon during the previous summer, so the thought really came from left field. But, I was instantly enthused. It was a Tuesday morning. By Friday, I had already given notice to my employer and landlord, and had moved most of my worldly goods to store in my father’s backyard, and on Saturday morning, I was driving to Seattle. I arrived on Monday, less than a week after that voice spoke to me. I moved back in with my grandparents, ready to live with them as long as it took for me to find work. I had a few thousand dollars in the bank, and could hold out a long time in my search. But first, LA had some parting moments for me.

That Tuesday morning, I was busy on the phone, talking to my manager, the recruiters, my landlord, my father, my grandfather, and so on. By that evening, I was taking the first load of my possessions to Ventura, which would not be retrieved until I landed a job in Seattle and had my own place. In that first load was my bed. I also had many of my more valuable possessions in my Pinto. For the first time (and far from the last), I tied down that bed onto the top of my car. Never having done it before, I believed that the one length of rope that I had was adequate. As I drove the surface streets to the 405 freeway, the bed did fine. But as soon as I got on the freeway and began going sixty miles an hour, I was rudely disabused of the notion that I had adequately secured the bed. It began “taking off” from the airflow, and bouncing up and down on my roof. I immediately got off the freeway, and had to find more rope. I got off the freeway at the first exit that I could, and it was the LAX off ramp, in Inglewood. That was a bad part of LA, particularly at night. I drove around, looking for a business that was open at night (not many were, in Inglewood). I found an open supermarket. When I worked in Culver City, it was where many of LA’s black professionals lived, and the local supermarket scene was like any suburban scene, of professional people buying their groceries for the week. The grocery store in Inglewood was of the same local chain that I shopped at in Culver City, and the patrons were mostly black in both stores, but the Inglewood version might as well have been on another planet.

It was almost a circus scene in front of that store, with attractive black women being accosted by black men who offered to carry their groceries. In Inglewood, you could not pump your gas without some black man walking up to you and “offering” to pump your gas, for a “fee.” It was more menacing than those street urchins “washing” your car windows at stop lights, without asking you if they could. It was “value added” begging, but it was what they call “aggressive” begging that was not too far removed from robbery. So there I was, with my bed tied to the top of the car, with most of my valuable possessions in it, at a grocery store in Inglewood at night. I parked in the row of cars closest to the store front. I was the only white guy in the area, and as I found some rope in the store and waited in line to pay for it, I kept looking out at my car, making sure that nobody was stripping it while I was in the store.

After I bought my rope, I went to my car and began tying my bed down as fast as I could. Just as I started tying my bed down, a Mexican low-rider car pulled to a stop a few feet from my car, in the lane between my car and the store. Several Mexicans jumped out of the car. They had no interest in me; they began to go after a couple of black, teenage boys who were just then walking into the store. This was in such a bad part of town that stores like that had armed guards. And standing in front of the store was the armed guard whom I did not initially notice. The guard was a matronly, middle aged black woman. The Mexican nearest to me had a tire iron in his hand. They were obviously planning on having a violent encounter with those black boys, and the guard walked up to the tire-iron-bearing Mexican, saying something like, “You aren’t going to do that at my store!” She was eating a sandwich at the time, holding it in her left hand, as she walked over to the Mexicans. The Mexican with the tire iron kept walking toward the black boys, and said something to the guard. In an instant, she had her pistol out and pointed in the face of the Mexican, with the pistol barrel inches from his nose. He did not even flinch, and taunted her, with her pistol in his face. As I watched the confrontation play out, I kept tying my bed down as fast as I could. Before I finished tying my bed down, the Mexicans finally saw reason, and got back into their car and drove away. The guard never even let go of her sandwich during the confrontation, and as the low-rider drove away, she resumed eating her sandwich as she holstered her pistol. It was like nothing had happened. I’ll bet that the guard was involved with confrontations like that all night long. As I drove away from that store, I was thinking, “Thank God I am moving away from LA!” Now, fast forward several years, when I was living in Ohio and the movie Grand Canyon came out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon_(1991_film)

The Lakers had their arena in Inglewood at the time, at The Forum. The opening scene of Grand Canyon was about Kevin Cline’s character getting lost on his way from a Lakers game at night, and being lost on the streets of Inglewood. He nearly became a victim of gang violence when Danny Glover’s character saved him, which began the movie’s central relationship. When the movie came out, I remember critics saying that the movie exaggerated the danger of Inglewood at night. When I read those reviews, I said to myself, “Well, they obviously have never been in Inglewood at night.” That movie turned out to be one of those “life imitates art” situations, because a few months later, the Rodney King beating verdict initiated riots:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

and Inglewood became a war zone. Those white movie critics ate their words in spectacular fashion. One more “strange” event happened during the week that I left. As I drove to Ventura with another load of my possessions, before dawn, so I could beat rush hour, and a car began honking at me on the freeway. It was a former girlfriend whom I once considered marrying. I avoided getting involved with women in my LA days, not wanting to get tangled up with some woman who was born and raised in LA and could not imagine leaving, with me trapped in LA for the rest of my life. That girlfriend was a college chum from the Bay Area and, like me, the only jobs were in LA when we graduated, so she worked in a skyscraper close to me in downtown. She threw herself at me for a year before I reciprocated and we had a brief romantic relationship. It was the only time in my years in LA when I was next to somebody in a car that knew me. It was extraordinary to have her honking and waving at me on that freeway. Less than a year later, she became one of my smallest investors when I raised the money in Boston (she invested $500):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

but led the attack on me soon thereafter, essentially accusing me of stealing that money from her. After our fourth conversation in about a two-month period, where she was accusing me of criminal motivation, I was in tears, and Dennis decided to offer all of my investors double their money back (there were plenty of interested parties by that time). It was one of the seminal moments of my loss of innocence during my days with Dennis. I would endure many betrayals by friends and family in the next couple of years, and that ex-girlfriend’s behavior gave me a preview of what was coming. My stress symptoms began coming back then, and a year later, I looked like a raccoon again, as we tried surviving the death blows that were aimed at us in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

So, on the Saturday morning after my Tuesday epiphany, I was leaving LA. I almost gave it the finger in my rear-view mirror as I drove out of LA, saying to myself, “I am never going to live here again!“ Imagine the irony of me driving to LA to work, less than three years later, but that will be in a future post. Never say never.

I saw my father in Ventura that Saturday, and stayed with friends in San Luis Obispo that night, and stayed with a college roomie in the Bay Area the next night. On Monday evening, I was rolling up to my grandparents’ home in Seattle, determined to finally make it in Seattle that time. It was my fourth attempt. On Tuesday, I got my resume together, on Wednesday I contacted the headhunter firms, and on Thursday afternoon I met with one of Seattle’s prominent recruiters. He said that with my resume, it would not be hard for me to find something to my liking in a month or two. I said that if it took a year, that would be fine by me, and I prepared for a long search, but I was in my paradise, and hiked in the mountains every week with my cousin for the next several months, in what turned out to be the best hiking year of my life. Today, I look back, and find it hard to believe the incredible hiking shape that I got into that summer. Our average day hike was twelve miles with a four thousand foot elevation gain. 1986 was the happiest year of my life, and 1988 was my worst, by far.

So, I went to bed on that Thursday night in my grandparent’s basement, feeling confident and excited. I planned to do more searching on my own, but I figured that I would hear from that recruiter in the next few weeks or months. The next morning, at about 9 AM, I was lying in bed, half asleep, and the phone rang. I heard my grandmother’s ponderous steps as she walked to the phone on the floor above me, and I heard her steps as she went to the basement door and called to me, telling me that I had a phone call. I was very surprised to hear that recruiter’s voice, whom I had first talked to late in the afternoon the day before. I may have even said something like. “That was quick.” He asked me if I could be ready that afternoon for an interview at a “solar company.” At that moment, it felt like a lightning bolt hit me. In my LA days, my friends knew how unhappy I was there and how I wanted to change the world of energy. But I felt trapped in a career path that was leading me nowhere near that goal, and I wondered when I would finally embark on that path and do something important with my life. I knew at that moment that that was what the voice was leading me to. It was only ten days since that voice told me to move to Seattle. That “solar company” was owned by a guy named Dennis Lee. The rest, as they say, is history.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

I was by no means healed from my LA days, but Dennis later said that I was literally shaking in the interview that I had with him and his wife. It was a combination of excitement and the rigors of my LA life.

I was then in for the wildest ride of my life, being Indiana Jones’s sidekick. Soon after Dennis hired me, I moved out from my grandparents’ house and roomed with an aspiring screenwriter in Seattle who moved to LA the next year to pursue that career path. My belongings were not yet retrieved from California, and I slept on my sleeping pad in my sleeping bag on the floor of my bedroom. One night, after only a few weeks at Dennis’s company, I was in this exalted, altered state all night long, in a kind of waking dream. That has only happened twice in my life, and I was reverberating from the lightning bolt. Dennis could not get rid of me. Working long hours for free for months for Dennis, before my boss engineered the theft of the company:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#theft

was only a gentle preview of what was in store for me. Even though I starved that year, it was the happiest one of my life, and the last time that I met with my roommate before I chased Dennis out to Boston, he said that I looked fifteen years younger than I did several months previously, when I met him. That story of how I ended up meeting Dennis became part of the folklore around him. I became a celebrity years later, got a standing ovation once, and snuck out of the room to avoid others. I was a very reluctant celebrity, but my name and face were all over Dennis’s books and videos. I do not like being recognized in public. When I am treated like a celebrity, people are usually trying to get something from me. It is not fun for me, especially when I am an introvert of the hermit archetype, with a social phobia, that comes and goes, to boot.

Only a few LA days posts are left. Incredibly, my LA days were not finished after I met Dennis, and that story is coming.

I have a long weekend at the office ahead of me. We will see when I get the next posts written.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Wade, below is a link to OWS demands:
http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009

It is still open. A living document as they say. Blocking of alternative forms of energy is mentioned near the end of that page.

Wade i am very sorry i invite you to another rabbit hole :( But maybe there is way out at the other end. And we will never know if we stay at our end :)

"Beware of stepping outside of your door. You never know where it might take you." a hobbit saying ;)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:
You are welcome to jump down that rabbit hole, but I will stay clear of it. That was a very tame statement that they made, maybe related to FE, and maybe not, and look at the comments. It is mostly the usual windmill, biofuels stuff. I won’t be trying to get their attention. I have yet to see any group that was really reachable on this stuff.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Roger that.

Seems i have not done my homework properly :(
Thanks for pointing that out to me Wade...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:

As far as I have seen, nearly all activists, and especially protestors, hack at branches. They are either scientifically illiterate or scientistically indoctrinated, and neither sees the big picture. When some protesters are offered a billion dollars to go away, then they will be onto something.

I have seen a few “radicals,” Berkeley types and hippies, begin to dimly understand, and then I have watched them reach out to their brethren in the environmentalist and other movements. Nobody is home. Brian O discovered that long ago, as have others. We all learn the bitter truth honestly: there is no group even pretending to be Level 12s. I am going to have to create my own group, because a Level 12 group has never been seen before.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

Gotta go to work now,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

LA Days, Part 9

In the previous post, I had escaped LA. My days in Seattle with Dennis were the true beginning of my education. My life thus far and my LA days were just a prerequisite, as I soon discovered. I was on fire, after that lightning bolt hit me. Working for free for months was a joy. I was finally involved with my life’s work. I believed that I had found people who were on the same mission. As I discovered over the next few months, almost nobody was involved because of what it could do for humanity and the planet, but what it could do for them. Almost everybody was in it for themselves, except for Dennis, his wife and maybe one or two others. I had many sobering moments in 1986 in Seattle, but two stand out. The first was when Dennis had his company stolen in a theft engineered by my boss. He was hired to properly execute a stock transaction. Instead, he purposely did not get it executed, and used his “negligence” to engineer the theft of the company:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

The Mormon involvement may have been the GCs showing their hand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mormon

or it may have just been the opportunism of Mormons, it being the religion of the ambitious in the Western USA. The second salient moment was watching the feeding frenzy over the carcass of Dennis’s company:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient2

Just before leaving Boston, and I mean just before, as in I was about to drive out of town, towing a trailer behind my Pinto, bizarre events conspired to keep me there over the weekend. I incredibly spent that weekend with a woman, whom I subsequently tried to have a bi-costal relationship with, but she soon ended it. I had largely lived like a monk for the previous several years, and that brief relationship I now realize was another “test,” and a cruel one at that, placed in front of me by my “friends.” I drove out of Seattle in tears. Ending my fourth attempt to live in Seattle that way tore my heart out, and was one of the hardest things that I ever did. Pursuing my life’s work was not easy by any means. I kept having “tests” thrown in my face, over and over.

In Boston was when I really began losing my innocence. I was midway through the longest fast of my life (45 days) as 1986 ended, largely because it was cheaper than eating. That winter, I lived with Dennis and his family. Dennis and I talked late into the night that winter, as I heard his life’s story, and what a story. What he had already lived through was pretty unbelievable to the average person.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

But to Dennis, his story was just the story of somebody who came from a poor background and chased his dream. If they ever made a Hollywood movie out of his life, it would make Indiana Jones look like Walter Mitty. As much of a learning experience as Boston was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

it was a gentle time for me, and some of my fondest memories of my days with Dennis were our days in Boston. When we moved to Ventura, that was when my education really took off. Although Ventura was my home town, and I am the reason that we ended up there, it was not my decision to move there. That is a long story that I can’t publicly discuss right now, but if you obtained Dennis’s books, you would see that I am only telling a fraction of my story in my public writings. My story is pretty unbelievable, too, but I was really only a spear carrier during my days with Dennis. As Dennis told me that we were moving the operation to Ventura, part of me was amazed at the irony; I had moved away from Southern California a little over a year previously, so happy to be away from there, and there I was, moving a free energy company there.

Ventura was where the fireworks really went off. 1986 was my life’s happiest year, and 1988 was my worst, by far. I got some compensation in those days, however. I got together with my future wife in 1988, just as they were lowering the sledgehammer on us, and the way that we met was another strange orchestration of events by my “friends,” and she witnessed what I lived though. I doubt that any woman could begin to understand what I had lived through, if she met me after my Ventura days. So, along with the harsh education came compensation. That was one of the most consistent aspects of my journey. Miraculous events would be sandwiched between nightmarish events that seemed orchestrated by unseen hands as a test. I am tired of being tested, but the fun never ends on Earth. :)

In the summer of 1988, with Dennis in jail and my witnessing innumerable naïve, cowardly, dishonorable, and criminal acts engaged in by family, friends, and “allies,” I woke up fast. Some of my more memorable events I cannot even discuss publicly, as I protect both the innocent and the guilty, but driving into the parking lot of our office, where several months earlier I watched a bunch of cop cars drive up in a cloud of dust as the raid began:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

to then have Mr. Texas, Mr. Stooge and Mr. Engineer greet me, was one of those salient events that I can never forget:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient3

By that time, I was being forced into bankruptcy. But going bankrupt was the small stuff of those days, a minor nuisance compared to everything else that was happening. By September, with the business long gone, and Dennis in jail with the long wait for trial, I had to go back to the corporate world to pay rent, eat, and save up enough money so that I could file for bankruptcy. There I was in Ventura, looking for work. I went to one agency, to register with them. The woman had never heard of the Big Eight, and as she essentially challenged my credentials, behind her walked a woman who had worked at Dennis’s company, who now worked there. As Dennis was splashed across the media, and forty employees or so found themselves suddenly without jobs, you might say that my reputation in Ventura was not a good one. :) My mother taking those lying newspaper articles on tour to friends and family was also only a minor nuisance in those days:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

So, if I was going to be able to work, not only was Ventura in the sticks, where they had never even heard of the Big Eight, I had a “radioactive” reputation in Ventura, so I had to find work in LA. That was about two-and-a-half years after I left it, vowing to never return. And the story gets “better.” I had not totally given up on Ventura, and took temporary jobs, and the first ones were on the northern end of the San Fernando Valley, still in Ventura County. I worked as an accounts payable clerk at one gig, and I ended up working for a guy who was years behind me in the Big Eight, who worked at my company in LA and knew who I was, whose brother I went to junior high school with in Ventura. I worked odd jobs like that, and the last one was deep in the Valley, in LA’s city limits; I was in the basement of a famous security company, reconciling a garnishment account for about a month. It was there that I took a day off from work to testify at Dennis’s preliminary hearing. That was the pivotal moment of my life, as Mr. Deputy made faces at me on the witness stand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

Then came December. December 1988 was the blackest month of my life. Dennis would be thrown into solitary confinement for trying to throw a Christmas party for his inmates. I got a call from Mr. Researcher in his hiding place, as he bewailed his fate:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

It was very hard to concentrate, as I went blind reconciling that garnishment account, reading microfiche all day long. And my “friends” were really twisting in the dagger. In a previous post, I mentioned my two philandering supervisors at that bank job:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=326342&viewfull=1#post326342

A fate would have it, it turned out that my old Big Eight firm was the auditor of that security company, and those buddies by that time had attained the manager and partner rank, and they worked together on that job. One day, as I staggered out of the basement, to take a break from the microfiche, I walked past an office where they were both sitting! I waved at them, and they kind of acknowledged me. It was known that I was in the basement. I went from underachieving CPA to literally the basement of my profession, with a radioactive reputation. I can’t recall if I found out about their philandering ways by that time, but I think that I did.

As I worked in that basement by day, I was working on my bankruptcy petition at night, and doing what I could to help Dennis and his family, who had moved in with Mr. Professor over the summer. They lived with Mr. Professor for years. When we sprung Dennis from jail, he and his family lived with Mr. Professor for about two years. Mr. Professor was the real hero in Ventura, and his heroics ended up costing him his life, and when that voice chimed in in my head, unbidden, as I was saying goodbye to his body:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

saying that when it first talked to me, it was also to lead me to him, that was the last straw for me and that voice. I have not heard from it since, and I don’t want to, not if it has any more bright ideas like that. Hearing that voice for the last time propelled me into the dark phase of my midlife crisis, which lasted for several years and did not end until I received that White House invitation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

Just as I finally got my bankruptcy petition ready to file, and had saved up enough money to file it, I landed a permanent job, in LA, in Tarzana, in The Valley. I filed the petition on a Friday, and began the permanent job on the following Monday. Over the weekend, I received another call from a friend, who called to announce his betrayal, a betrayal that cost me several thousand dollars, and the first thing that I did with my money from my new job was pay for his betrayal. I forgave him, but others were not as understanding. It was during that month that I saw myself getting a shotgun and “cleaning up” Ventura County’s corruption. That was the most horrifying part of my journey. That I could be brought to have thoughts like that, no matter how fleeting and instantly dismissed as a product of my pain, was absolutely the darkest part of my journey. But when Dennis was thrown in solitary confinement by Mr. Deputy and friends for trying to throw a Christmas party, I saw how utterly evil it all was, and I then devoted myself to breaking Dennis out of jail. When I sacrificed my life like that, it looked like Dennis had a snowball’s chance in hell. My sacrifice incredibly worked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

I know and Dennis knows that some divine hand intervened at that moment, and would not let my gesture be a futile one. Once Mr. Professor and I busted Dennis out of jail, I knew that my heroics were no longer needed, and I then spent the next several years digging out of debt and putting my wife through graduate school in Ohio.

Incredibly, about a week after I got that job with that medical lab, the federal government was completing an unprecedented investigation, and subsequently tried to wipe it out. I saw lying public officials, media smear campaigns and the rest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

I discovered that the medical racket worked very similarly to the energy racket. That medical lab, however, was owned by a rich medical doctor (one of the richest black men in the USA at the time), so the company survived and the doctor soon sold out to a Fortune 500 conglomerate. Within a year of my beginning at that lab, I was the highest-ranking employee in the administrative side of the company to survive the corporate slaughter that accompanies almost all take-overs, friendly or not.

I will finish my LA Days posts with some events from my days at that medical lab. By that time, the Road Rage phenomenon was well established, and that confrontation that I saw in front of that grocery store:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=327642&viewfull=1#post327642

was actually a relatively innocent event compared to what was coming. If that grocery store encounter happened in 1989 when I was at that lab, instead of 1986 when I saw it, the Mexicans would not have been carrying tire irons, but would have opened fire with their Uzis. Drive-by shootings were in fashion by 1989, as LA descended into Hell. One day, I came to the office at that medical lab and most of the women in the accounts receivable department were absent (having doctors as customers quickly removed them from whatever pedestal American society put them atop – it was like entering a restaurant by the kitchen). They went home, upset that one of their fellow employees, a black woman, was walking down the street in her neighborhood the night before, and was killed in a drive-by shooting, which targeted some rival gang members. Many innocent bystanders were killed in drive-by shootings in those days, and my company was affected by it.

When I lived in LA, all of my friends experienced some kind of car crime, whether it was being hit in a hit-and-run accident, having their car broken into and their stereo stolen, or they simply had their car stolen, to be recovered by the police a week later, after it had been stripped in a chop shop, and so on. My driving a Pinto was also partly strategic in nature. Nobody would bother to strip or steal a beat up Pinto. But, when I worked in that medical lab, a novel and popular crime of the day was to slash a car’s tires while it was parked on a street or in a parking lot. When the car’s driver approached his/her car and found one or more tires flat, the thieves would magically appear from nowhere, as “Good Samaritans” to help the person out, and then they would rob him/her. That was the new “trick” that was being used at the time, and I had heard about it.

My medical lab was on Reseda Boulevard in Tarzana, close to the freeway. It was in a seedy part of town, with barbed-wire fence surrounding it. A few miles down Reseda Boulevard was my doctor, and one day I made a visit and parked my car on the street. When I came out, I noticed that one of my tires was flat. I saw that somebody had slashed the valve stem. Immediately suspecting that I was being set up for one of those “Good Samaritan” robberies, I drove away on my flat tire, to get out of the area before the “Good Samaritans” arrived. This was during the work day, and there I was, in my suit and tie, changing my flat tire in the smoggy, 100-degree heat. I changed the tire quickly, without being accosted, and drove back to my office. When I went to the parking lot at about 5:00, after my work day was finished, I saw that I had another flat tire. The would-be robbers had slashed two of my tires, but the second one had a slower leak, so it did not go entirely flat until hours later. But there I was, with my spare already used for the first slashed tire, and with another flat tire. I went back into the office and looked in the Yellow Pages for the closest garage that could fix one of my tires so I could drive home to Ventura. The closest one was two miles away down Reseda Boulevard. I wish that somebody was around to take my picture, because the memory was kind of a funny one. There I was in my business suit, running down Reseda Boulevard, rolling my tire to the gas station to get my tire repaired. Then I rolled the tire two miles back to the office, put it on my car, and drove home. As with the situation when the tire fell off of my car when I first moved to LA in 1983, that 1989 event was just another day in the hell of LA.

The next year, I got married, we sold my wife’s house and spent our honeymoon moving most of our possessions into storage and lived with Mr. Professor and his wife (Dennis and his family had moved out by that time, as Mr. Professor’s home became a boarding house). Mr. Professor went bankrupt the next year, as his efforts to help resurrect the business failed. Those events wrecked his health and shortened his life. I took his death very hard, but my wife said to not be too distraught, as he probably worked off about twenty lifetimes of karma and achieved sainthood. His wife has always assured me that he sacrificed his life willingly, and nobody blames me for his fate, but I own a piece it, and it will haunt me for the rest of my life. He also suffered like I did in that the Ventura County gangsters took vengeance on his family, in a way that I cannot publicly discuss, and it is also why his widow asked me to never mention his real name in my public writings. His involvement with Dennis also led to attacks from his close relatives and subsequent estrangement from them. At his funeral, none of his relatives attended. Other than his wife and daughter, I was the only “family” there. That is the fate of the saints in our insane world.

I wish that that was the end of it for my Ventura days, but there was worse to come. Not only were many lives wrecked, but some people also lost their sanity in the mayhem, and one of them was a close family member who attacked me in a bout of paranoiac insanity, just as I was moving away to Ohio, and we became permanently estranged. It might have been the greatest blow of all. Also, the only friend in Ventura County who supported me during that nightmare later tried to compete with me in my radicalized understanding of how the world worked and my research that I dove into after I left Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books

It was like debating a five-year-old whose notion of justice was cowboy movies. In his own way, Dennis knows far more than I ever will about the aspects of the Free Energy conundrum that he is intimately familiar with:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#summary

I have never heard of another person like Dennis. He is the only person on Earth that I know of who can successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

But I took a different path, and if I did not think what I learned was valuable, I would have never created my website. But, as Jesus said, prophets have no honor in their hometown, and I have experienced that phenomenon numerous times on my journey. In fact, everybody whom I know who has played at the high levels all report similar estrangement from family and friends. It comes with the territory. That friend who supported me ended up not only attacking me, but tried to further attack me through my mother:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=249110&viewfull=1#post249110

He did it in an anonymous and criminal way, but he was not smart enough to successfully hide his identity. After I unmasked him, he even escalated his criminality, incredibly. He still attacks me to this day, when he can. You might say that Southern California, both LA and Ventura, left a sour taste in my mouth. :) But, to this day, I still get people trying to get me to go to Ventura and Southern California to “hang out.” It is like asking a concentration camp survivor to vacation at Auschwitz, when Auschwitz was still operational. I have also recently had a family member stupidly commit a crime in Ventura County, and it may end up requiring my involvement before it is over. I don’t care if family members end up going to prison, I ain’t going back.

I believe that my life today is compensation for all that I have been through. I work in a skyscraper with a view of the Cascades, making more money than I have a right to expect, in the high tech industry, where I can run into the world’s richest man in the movie theater next to my office:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

If I have to work for a living in corporate America, I really have a hard time imagining a better situation. My “going public” work of the past few years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews

appears to be initiating a new phase of my efforts, and I already am turning down offers to be on TV and similar situations. I am trying, perhaps foolishly, to get this choir going from my desk, and not have to hit the road and risk my life. I really want to live a quiet life, and we will see how it goes. I want to help abolish Hell on Earth, and help Heaven on Earth manifest. It is really that simple for me.

Over the next week or two, I will take these LA Days posts and consolidate them, while adding an anecdote or two, into a couple of posts, for easier reading for future readers.

Gotta go to work now.

Best,

Wade

[Satkirn]

hi wade,
I loved your description of level or the Layers of the Free Energy Onion as you called them, they really cracked me up especially the lasts ones :)
Its great yo have you in the forum, Im still trying to get literate on the subject and you certanly provide alot of info Im just no so sure how I can assimilate it all yet so fast.
Its a journey for sure.

[Wade Frazier]

Welcome, and happy reading, Satkirn.

[sandy]

Hi Wade,

Superb writing and thoroughly enjoyable, informative, and awakening material. So easy to grasp the conundrum of FE with your personal narrative style as well as relate to the emotional up and down side of your journey. We all may have walked different paths but the thrills and spills of our journeys create the same emotions as joy is joy and pain is pain, etc.

Found myself laughing at some of your follies and thinking about my own life and how if there was a curve ball coming it always seems to find me and at the same time a wonderful occurrence in recognizing "ALL" that came with the curve ball.:) I too believe that we are tested and know that these tests are what build and strengthen our personal integrity.

I'm sure future readers will eat up your LA Days consolidation and sign on for more. Great Work authored by a Great Being. Humbled to be a part of this community and to call you my brother.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Sister:

Glad you are here. I just posted up probably the central issue of my work on Ilie’s thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=328832&viewfull=1#post328832

Going to work now.

Love and peace,

Wade

[sandy]

Hi Wade,

Just read your post on Ilie's thread and yes the central issue runs throughout it. Funny I just posted a little earlier at Nexus that the state of protesting feeds the old paradigm. This will not work due to the fact that the masses are begging for recognition from without about being victimized and until personal integrity becomes the movement there will be little accomplished by protesting one's victimization.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi All:

As I mentioned in another thread, Adam Trombly is going to be on Scott’s show tonight. Here is Scott’s announcement.

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?6577-Adam-Trombly-Thrive-Movie-Starchild-Program-Zero-Point-Energy-Part-1&p=42924#post42924

IMO, Scott got a scoop. Adam does not often do interviews, especially of the four-hour kind. Then Thrive comes out in a month. I will be trying to get my Brian essay done by the time that Thrive comes out, but we will see. I will be crazy-busy at the office for the next month, too.

Hi Sandy:

Yes, “protesting” from a victim-orientation is no answer. Brian O eventually learned it too, and said that “combined positive intention” was the key, not “protest.”

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Scott posted on Nexus a video with Adam Trombly at a Free Energy conference in 1989. Adam states at one time that "in 10 years India will be energetically independent". That is obviously not the case.... while I can imagine what happened, am I still curious as to the MO used to prevent India's energy revolution. Does anyone know the story?

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Ilie,

Delay in India could be due to "shock doctrine" experiments in Asia in 90s by Milton Friedman's Chicago Boys... Any distraction will work to scare nations away.

I remember Tom Bearden saying he arranged research of MEG in small european country. I thought it could be one of the former east block countries. And last year Hungary was struck with huge ecological disaster after toxic red sludge from broken waste reservoirs flooded that country. I was wondering if there was any connection...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

In my interviews with Scott, I said that everybody that I respected in the FE and other “heretical” fields began our journeys naively. Part of that naïveté was thinking, “Well, who would not want FE?” We all eventually found out who wouldn’t, often in brutal fashion. But, the big surprise to me was not that Godzilla existed, but how nearly everybody did his bidding, usually without even being prompted. The fact that more than 99% of humanity is currently trapped in the denial layers of the FE Onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

has far more to do with where the average person’s awareness is, not what Godzilla does. It has many facets, from mothers believing their employers’ lies about their children, without even asking their children for their side of the story,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=300436&viewfull=1#post300436

to prosecutors who do not even care if they put innocent people in prison, as long as they keep their kill ratio high:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

and are more than willing to lie and deceive to keep that kill ratio high:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#lie

and so on. On the situation with India, I do not know all of the particulars, but let’s just say that Adam still had a lot to learn when he made that statement. Specifically, the state of Indian technology was not advanced enough to where they could successfully reproduce Adam’s homopolar generator, because they could not get the machining tolerances low enough to spin it fast enough. Even so, they came up with “over-unity” results. One of the big misconceptions about the FE conundrum is that nations without hydrocarbon energy deposits would eagerly line up to pursue FE. They don’t. Godzilla has something to do with it, but more importantly, almost nobody can escape their scarcity-based indoctrination, wherever they live, and every nation has some kind of energy infrastructure. From top-to-bottom, from beginning-to-end, the people and interests in that infrastructure have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. A fear of change, any change, is a classic hallmark of scarcity-based civilizations. That is not empty theory, either. The poorer a nation (and a society’s wealth is almost entirely based on their energy consumption), the less real freedom it has, and the more resistant to change it is. That is why slavery, racism, misogyny and other economically-motivated ideologies are more obvious in pre-industrial societies.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#women

So, very much like the Godzilla dynamic, the vested interests in every nation’s energy infrastructure have won out over the innovators. A great deal of it is just inertia and structural constraints:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

although some is “conspiratorial.” But, as I have written plenty, a lot of the “conspiratorial” stuff has no Godzilla involvement at all, but the local or national interests protecting their turf. Godzilla has no monopoly on dirty tricks. I don’t know how right Bearden is, for instance, in chalking up a lot of FE organized suppression to the Yakuza, but there are national and local energy interests everywhere on the planet that don’t want FE to happen. Again, the conundrum is multifaceted.

Best,

Wade

[Unified Serenity]

Wade, I am thoroughly enjoying your work, and your website. I am curious how you would view my experience with energy and how I for lack of a better term work to use it or work with it. I lack some words to explain what I do energetically, but my best explanation is that I turn inward and yet experience the universe at the same time. I feel this immense river of golden energy that has a flow and feel to it. It is not cold or hot, but it is soothing. I see every soul in it, and yet most are like a simple gate that is solid standing in the river neither aware of it or their ability to experience it and be one with it.

The energy is beyond my ability to calculate, and it is never ending. I cannot explain this enough, or express the feeling of that first moment when I have helped someone in a soul healing session to see themselves no longer as a solid gate/door, but one with slats and they can slowly open a few slats to experience that wave of energy. I experienced that energy in a moment of profound hurt where I had to forgive a terrible betrayal despite the one who harmed me or sought my harm had no desire for any forgiveness. I simply admitted my hurt and not knowing how to forgive them but that I wanted them forgiven and I was floored by what happened. I experienced the most profound agony and ecstacy that lasted initially for hours. I was undone and overwhelmed experienced this divine experience often for over a year. That was back in 1995, and that's how I started soul healing on a new level.

I know this is a long post (I do tend to be verbose), but my question for you is that out of my experience with energy, this river, and now I use it in various ways as I see fit, but it's always this divine river and it can be "tapped" at anytime for we are all truly one with it. Is this where you see us going in a new way of living, or do I just sound nuts to you? I am not an engineer, but more a mystic seer. Have you ever been to this place I am speaking of?

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Unified Serenity:

I believe that what you did was begin to play the Level 19 Game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

You were experiencing the ZPF, I believe. As I have stated several times at Avalon, and I have been saying it for many years: the ZPF may be divine in nature, and until we achieve enough collective divine intention, we will not be able, as a civilization, to tap it. Once you decided to forgive somebody who did not even want forgiveness, you gave an opening to the angels and their friends, and had your experience. The FE game is about a lot more than technology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

Best,

Wade

[Unified Serenity]

Hi Unified Serenity:

I believe that what you did was begin to play the Level 19 Game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

You were experiencing the ZPF, I believe. As I have stated several times at Avalon, and I have been saying it for many years: the ZPF may be divine in nature, and until we achieve enough collective divine intention, we will not be able, as a civilization, to tap it. Once you decided to forgive somebody who did not even want forgiveness, you gave an opening to the angles and their friends, and had your experience. The FE game is about a lot more than technology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

Best,

Wade

Thanks for your reply Wade. I enjoy working with energy on many different levels, though I don't really think I am doing my world changing work with it. I feel more like I am in kindergarten learning to trust myself and what can be done. Do you think it would take many people working on this level to bring about changes in the fear mongering cabal to turn to FE for the world? What would it take for them to see and understand the benefit if anything? You say in your experience some of these sts types see it as their mission to grind the masses into the dirt so to speak because it's their lesson and they accept it, so is there a way to fundementally change that concept with them or are they just set in their paths by some prior soul arrangement and we are learning important lessons?

I have a lot more questions and I accept if you cannot address them, but if you can I am really interested in your experiences as they pertain to this.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

TelosianEmbrace took me up on my suggestion to begin a positive visions thread, and I made my initial contribution to it:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=330389&viewfull=1#post330389

Ilie’s thread is a very important one, about what becomes obsolete in a world of FE:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=297739&viewfull=1#post297739

and the pure positive visions needed their home, too. I ask that if people have FE cautions or want to explore the downsides of FE, that they do it on this thread (or maybe even start with – “the potential downsides of FE” – that is an important topic, too).

Best,

Wade

[Unified Serenity]

Quite frankly Wade, don't we have the resources worldwide to take care of people in the means they are accustomed to if we suddenly ended the current energy monopoly paradigm so that once those things are up and running and we are producting a lot more stuff and people are benefitting from it that those who are displaced will be able to pursue more positive and rewarding avenues? What is the downside, their loss of world power and manipulating populations and the end of wars for the sake of fighting over resources to support our energy needs?

[Scott]

Hail All

Our interview with fellow free energy rampart scaler Adam Trombly is now available in our archives section full length & free to listen to.

The sound engineer at the BBSRadio station who has heard literally thousands of radio interviews messaged me while the interview was playing and said and I quote "This might be the best interview I've ever heard on bbsradio."

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn179/Nazrudin/Adam_Trombly_3.jpg

Adam Trombly about "The Thrive Movie - Starchild Program - Zero Point Energy" Part 1.
Interview:http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-starchild-program-zero-point-energy-part-1.html

Part 2 will play next Tuesday.

Scott

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Scott,

Thanks a lot for the interview! Do remind us again next Tuesday, when the part 2 will be available.

[sandy]

Hey Scott,

Left a thank you at Nexus, however the interview was dynamite so thank you again. I really encourage everyone to listen to the first part. I'm sure Adam and Wade must have been each other in another lifetime or dimension :), as the similarities are uncanny even down to voice tones, etc. I wait with great interest and excitement for the second half of this interview. Awesome Scott!!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

That positive visions thread is intended for positive visions, and can be seen as along the lines of that future world that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

Ilie’s thread is intended to explore what aspects of our current civilization become obsolete with FE and abundance:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=297739&viewfull=1#post297739

Ever since my family went “health nut” when I was twelve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

I have encountered people’s fearful rejection of potential positive futures. It used to boggle my mind, but I now know that fear is the constant state of most people, but it is usually buried in their subconscious, as it dictates all of their behaviors. When something like changing our diets to be healthy, or changing our disastrous energy paradigm comes up, then their fears become conscious and overwhelming. The early levels of the FE Onion are virtually all rooted in denial, which is rooted in fear:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

For those who make it past denial of FE, most of the rest get stuck in fear of FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

You really have to see it to believe it. So, I am going to make a couple of “visions” posts to honor those fears. They will both be nightmare scenarios. One will be a world where we keep on with the hydrocarbon energy paradigm, keep razing the forests, fighting over increasingly-scarce resources for an increasingly populous humanity. I will follow that one to the end game, which will be the extermination of most of humanity, while we take most of the ecosphere and complex life forms with us. The other nightmare scenario will be FE gone awry, as we destroy our planet with striping mining it and warfare, as we misuse energy technologies. I intend for it to be a constructive exercise, to put people’s fears on the table. Those kinds of scenarios are modern-day horror stories, and Hollywood loves making movies about those scenarios, and people like Roads also visited similar realities:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

I will likely not write them until I get done with my Brian essay, hopefully before Thrive comes out! :)

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Hi Unified Serenity:

There would easily be plenty for all under an FE economy, and the transition could be a surprisingly easy one. I have found that the fears of societal collapse and so on to be very short-sighted and irrationally fearful. Yes, the Global Controllers would lose their god-like position. That is really all that they are concerned about: losing their earthly power. Some of the more accomplished openly admit it to themselves, if not always to each other. They have also developed an elitist philosophy that states something like, “We are needed to shepherd the semi-sentient species called humanity. Without us subtly guiding them, it will turn out badly for everybody.” That is the partly line, and some of the more naïve and less intelligent of them believe it, but the accomplished ones know that it is only a cover story, only taken seriously by the gullible and the stupid.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Sandy:

After listening to all of it, yes, there are a bunch of similarities, but I am too close to one of the subjects to make any objective comments! :) It was kind of funny that we both said what a nobody Bill Gates was at the GC level. But, I was not in the Star Child program, and Adam went through a different kind of meat grinder than I did. I put him and Dennis on a similar, Indiana Jones, level. I am just a spear carrier. I have been encouraged to interact with Adam, and he has this penchant for going on the same shows after I do:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm#trombly

but I am trying to live a much quieter life than Adam and Dennis lead, and when you open the door to people like that, there is a tornado that follows them around because of who they are, and if you not careful, you end up in Oz with them, maybe under the house with the Wicked Witch of the East, wondering how the hell that happened. :)

Going to bed now, after my 13-hour day.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

I have encountered people’s fearful rejection of potential positive futures. It used to boggle my mind, but I now know that fear is the constant state of most people, but it is usually buried in their subconscious, as it dictates all of their behaviors.

Hi Wade, This is very very true, so simple yet so incredibly powerful. Unconscious (rather than subconscious) means exactly that, there is no conscious awareness, and the psychodynamic surface behaviour seems purely unrelated to the unconscious cause. The swamplands of the unconscious, for many, nay most, are a no go area primarily because to go there means the removal of the veneer of 'false' security and a growing awareness that we are not who we think we are.

Denial is only part, there is a total disconnect, an unintentioned dissociation from the real for the sake of staying in a safe, comfortable, and 'familiar' place. Then there is control, if a person can stay in control and resist scary change, the chance of staying in that same place and not experiencing the fear is much better. So there are many layers to overcome the 'frequency fences' of the unconscious for a new way of being to take root.

g

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi

Had let my self to start new thread here
Free Energy?! No way in hell! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=331108&viewfull=1#post331108)
intended for negative posts regarding free energy. Feel free to vent your fears there...

[edit]
Added another thread regarding free energy:
Free Energy: Transition plans for Earth (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32475-Free-Energy-Transition-plans-for-Earth&p=331182&viewfull=1#post331182)
intended for posting ideas of how to get from here to there...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:

Nice start for those threads! I probably won’t be contributing to them for a month or so, but I will be watching to see how those go.

Hi Gardener:

Yes, all of that unconscious behavior is partly why I call humanity a semi-sentient species (or people like Brian O wondered if we really were a sentient species). All of those deeply irrational responses to my work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#false

are also part of the unconscious fear terrain. All of that is partly why I came to realize that the masses are not reachable by FE talk, not now and probably not ever. They will only wake up to FE when it is delivered to their homes, as with most new things:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

FE can only be pursued today by the awake and the awakening.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Ktlight posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32309-Clearing-the-Smoke-The-Science-of-Cannabis) a one hour documentary about Medical Cannabis.

The video presents the pro and against views of legalizing medical marihuana. And I might add it mocks a little the "against" views :biggrin: (and with good grounds I think...)

So here I am looking at these people, debating if cannabis is good for your health and why is it not FDA approved, and how come Alcohol and Tobacco are OK but not Cannabis.

And I am thinking... you're again hacking at the branches... the ban of cannabis has little (if anything) to do with your health! They don't care about your health or what you are smoking or not, or what is good for you! That's just a smoke screen, to keep you looking in the wrong direction.

This is an energy problem, and a scarcity problem!! (I don't think is even related to the medical racket, only the energy one!)

The reason hemp has been banned is because it was becoming a threat to the oil and wood industry! So FDA will never approve the usage of the plant in our current paradigm because:

- oil and wood industries would be too heavily impacted (almost anybody anywhere can grow hemp)
- the pharmaceutical industry will also be hit (why pay thousands of dollars on a medicine that you can grow in your house?!)

So you will see this fight go on and on about the "medical marijuana", while hiding the fact that it has little to do with health and everything to do with energy.

Legalization of hemp gets way too close to "free energy" to be allowed on the market.

Read this article for more details: The reason hemp is Illegal (http://www.activistpost.com/2010/07/marijuana-conspiracy-reason-hemp-is.html).

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

There are many, many subjects that are treated as some political issue (Japan in Manchuria, how WWI ended, the US in Vietnam, or today’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, etc.), or religious (Crusades), and so on, but if you begin digging into it, it ends up being another energy-scarcity story, and the other stuff is just a smoke screen, usually to try to hide the underlying motivation. All fibers are energy-created. So-called organic fibers are usually about robbing some life form of its body for human use.

Once people develop a trained eye, the energy issues jumps out at them, time after time.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

To add my two pence worth here; in the survival instincts all creatures have food scarcity anxiety to accompany hunger which is a fertile area in which to install any fear programming, therefore energy scarcity I feel will be associated in the same way. Food = energy in a fundamental way.

Wade...
Yes, all of that unconscious behavior is partly why I call humanity a semi-sentient species

I agree with this comment fully. Because there is so much 'unconscious' man reacts rather than 'acts' consciously.

g

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Gardener:

Yes, humanity is a great, slumbering beast these days. They are getting some help staying that way, as Adam said in his interview with Scott, but we are all subject to the same kinds of controlling actions. I may have been subjected to the mind-f**king radionic technology, and it was not fun, but I survived it.

It is possible to wake up, but people have to want to. Nobody is going to hand it to them. The more that wake up, and want to wake up, the more chance we have of turning the corner.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

With this thread proliferation, my posts are not just going here. Ilie asked a question on one of those other threads:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=333089&viewfull=1#post333089

that I responded to:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=333119&viewfull=1#post333119

that is probably going to stir things up a bit. So, I made a summary of the state of my Avalon efforts, and other activities:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=333384&viewfull=1#post333384

Best,

Wade

[Scott]

The YouTube version of Wade Frazier's 2nd Interview is now available. (Finally)

Wade Frazier - The Free Energy Inventors


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8iC3G30EA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qFIIn6ksE

Wade Frazier joined us for a second interview to expand on his earlier talk about the Free Energy Movement and the inventors he has met while pursuing his interest in unlimited energy sources.

Wade Frazier groomed as a scientist from an early age, became fascinated by the subject of alternative energy when just a teenager. As is so often the case with those with a clearly envisioned life mission when so young, his life's path then propelled him through a series of hard-hitting experiences that qualify him to be one of the preeminent writers on the subject today.

Wades Bio (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/wade-frazier-m-the-free-energy-inventors.html)

P.S The second half (Part 2) of our interview with Adam Trombly will be on tonight at 7:55 pm Pacific 10:55 pm Eastern. Listen Live Link (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/listen-live.html)
Or just wait for the full archive posted the next day in the archives.

Scott

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Scott has been a very busy boy. The Chain Reaction poster was cool! I heard that Adam gives a call to arms at the end of the interview that completes tonight. I look forward to listening to it.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi

Just wanted to share with you my sadness about huge disproportion in number of post between visions and fears threads :(
And the saddest thing to me is i can't dress in words my own positive vision to share in Future Earth thread... It is in my heart all the time but i just can't focus enough to gather right words together to describe it... Talking about fears or lack of fear comes so easy.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Robert,

The Fear response is almost a reflex one. It's really easy to write about it, or bring it about :biggrin:

But the visions, as I've said on the thread already, I really have to squeeze my brains and let it brew for days before I get to the right place... this is to show how "out of practice" we are. I admire Ernie, he seems to be a "natural" with all of this ;)

I hope that love will be next "reflex response" and a loving attitude will create more "loving opportunities". And also, bringing the "fear reflex" out at the conscious level is the first step of letting it go.

(About finding the "right words" for your vision, just jot some ideas you get on a piece of paper that you keep around :). Soon enough you'll have at least a bullet list to post!!)

[motherlove]

This morning I had a conversation going on in my head about the FE issue so I started reading this thread I haven't been on in weeks. The interview at Nexus with Wade is exactly what I was told in the conversation in my head this morning "before" I listened to the interview. The part about grandmothers I remember distinctly because when I heard it in my head this morning I agreed. There is something at work here that is beyond our understanding it is magical and mystical I have no doubt. We are blessed to have you here Wade. Best Wishes

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Motherlove:

Allrighty then, I may have another recruit in the bag for my Grandma Corps. :)

There is a lot of synchronicity in the air these days, and I actually wonder if Brian O had something to do with it. He wasn’t finished…

Best,

Wade

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Hi Robert:

Yes, just jot the ideas down. If you roll them around in your head long enough, the words will come, maybe even a story! :)

Best,

Wade

[ThePythonicCow]

We are blessed to have you here Wade.
Indeed .

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

That road runs both ways. When Bill began this forum, he came to the same conclusion that I did: all-comers forums don’t work, particularly for subject matter like this. At ATS, trolls had free reign on my threads, and even as I tried to ignore them, others fought them, which really turned into a mess. Then ATS banned me when another troll teamed up with the primary troll (who may well have been a professional):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll1

And that was where I tried having a home in cyberspace to engage the public. My work has been discussed many places on the Internet and, almost invariably, whenever I joined a conversation that seemed worth joining, I ended up being attacked by the peanut gallery, always anonymously, of course. :) You eventually get a thick skin, but more importantly, the conversation never could get going. What I am trying to get across is hard enough without people trying to destroy the conversation. So, it is good to be here. I think I will have to have my own invitation-only forum to really get the conversation going in the direction that I seek. Helping people think comprehensively is my bag, and we will see how it works in cyberspace.

Best,

Wade

[sandy]

Hi All,

Listened to Scott"s 2nd interview with Adam and fought it interesting to say the least. My first impression was one of surprise at the aggression I perceived in his energetic speech for the FE Band wagon to start rolling now.

He dropped the niceties of language to make this point over and over again, which at first I found shocking ( bias checked re professional behavior ) and then I heard a real human being who has experienced more than we can imagine tell it like it is and I LOVED IT!!

I posted somewhere maybe Face Book a while back that if the protesters all stood together and demanded FE NOW I would have more hope for humanities future. I have compassion for the protesters and know it is a start but I too believe as Adam "adamantly" stated that we need to demand FE NOW.

Maybe I have been immersed with too much family as of late with my temporary roommate as I have been struggling to create the vision request from Wade :)

I want to do more than be compassionate and my brothers keeper but can't seem to identify what I have to offer other than my love for humanity so for now I will stay the course I have chosen.

(I have put out the intention to create a visions post) I will share it with you when it arrives :)

[Gardener]

Sandy, I listened last night too, and will listen again, there is just so much to take in. I also wanted to say about when Adam seemed agressive, I felt it as a real passion, a deperate cry to us all and to humanity to please 'get it' now! A couple of times when listening I cried from a deep place, almost animal like which defies description; and even though I 'get it' intellectually, I have to get it viscerally, to then take it to heart literally.

g

[Ilie Pandia]

Did Scott publish the archive yet :), and if so where?

[sandy]

Hi Gardener,

I agree with you and yes, feel it too, very deeply. Thus I want to do more than just support FE warriors in my personal actions and thoughts from my small corner of the world. I too believe that urgency for movement is on the doorstep and hang on to the fact that our intention to create the release of FE will be much sooner than later :)

[sandy]

Hi Ilie,

Scott will already have it archived at Spectrum Radio Network Co-Host Scott Jordan>>>hope this helps as I don't know how to embed the website :(

[Scott]

OK I have added Part 2 Adam Trombly's Interview to the archives page. (running a bit late today)

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn179/Nazrudin/Adam-second-bio.jpg

Adam Trombly - Thrive Movie - Starchild Program - Zero Point Energy - Part 2 (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-mstarchild-program-zero-point-energy-part.html)

Adam Trombly joined the show and had so much information to impart that we broke it into two parts, aired Tuesday October 11th and again on Tuesday, October 18th.

Adam enthralled us with his vast knowledge and wisdom, adding fascinating anecdotes and tying it all up with not only his great skill of presentation, but his sense of humour, as well.

I was literally sitting on the edge of my seat as Adam spoke of his childhood and career, adding some hair-raising incidents that he had been through.

He speaks with passion and one can sense the joy in what he does and cannot help but get caught up in every word.· The scope of Adam’s knowledge in science was a little intimidating for someone like me, who appreciates and respects it, but is....okay, I’ll say it.....clueless.· But Adam has such an incredible way of explaining things that I sat spellbound; completely caught up in the zone right along with him.

So many, many thanks to Adam for taking the time out of his busy schedule to be on the show and we wish him continued success in the future.

Enjoy.· I certainly did.

P.S Again, so sorry I was running late today :(

Scott

[kudzy]

Thanks Scott, I really appreciate your interview style. I totally enjoyed listening to Adam in both parts 1 & 2 and look forward to a part 3 or 4, it sounded like he's into doing more interviews with you. At 1:46 of part 2, do you suppose Adam was referring to Dutchsinse? Just curious. I'm going to listen to both parts again. Awesome, great work. Zero Point Now!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I just listened to second half of Adam’s interview. Quite a show. The man who made Thrive is an heir to the Proctor & Gamble fortune. I have been aware of this movie-in-the-making for several years. He visited James’s ranch several years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

and saw, as James told me, the “big ships” like we saw. Interviewing John Robbins, another heir who refused to play the game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#_edn246

is highly appropriate for Thrive, and I look forward to seeing it. On Adam saying that Chain Reaction was not about Yull Brown, well, we are probably both right. It probably did start out as an FE movie, but they ended up working Yull into it. Yull was a bit miffed about what happened, as I recall. A couple of guys visited him in So. Cal. and picked his brains for a couple of days, promising to get him the money, and a couple of years later, Chain Reaction came out, and those guys were part of the production, but I do not know if they were producers, writers or exactly what. Chain Reaction came out right in the middle of Dennis’s barnstorming tour of the USA, where he promoted Yull like nobody had ever done before.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

The technology to get energy from water was not Brown’s Gas in the movie, but another exotic water-based technology, but the blowing up the city part was what there was also fear about with Brown’s Gas. I read the letter from Al Gore to us back in 1996, where he backed off from further involvement, after our visit with him at the White House, where he expressed such fears of it being too dangerous. Before they exploded the first atom bombs, some scientists thought that it would start a chain reaction that would blow up the entire planet. That did not happen, but similar fears were expressed about Brown’s Gas inciting a chain reaction in non-radioactive isotopes, and creating a chain reaction like was featured in the movie. That guy in the picture I attached below was the ringer for Yull in Chain Reaction. Lighting up that flame on stage was a standard Yull demo with Brown’s Gas. I have several tapes of Brown doing his thing, and they can be found on the Internet. I also have a tape of him doing the neutralization demo. Chain Reaction was awful, but I think I may have go buy it now. When Adam talked about that offer to have two thousand scientists working for him in China, I am sure that that was the city that they built for Brown that I spoke of in my second interview with Scott and Tom. Yull did not want to live in China, but a Green Card was always his goal. I am thinking of writing a bit about our Yull days. It will be difficult, because there is plenty that I can’t say publicly right now, alas. We’ll see.

Best,

Wade

[Scott]

Thanks Scott, I really appreciate your interview style. I totally enjoyed listening to Adam in both parts 1 & 2 and look forward to a part 3 or 4, it sounded like he's into doing more interviews with you. At 1:46 of part 2, do you suppose Adam was referring to Dutchsinse? Just curious. I'm going to listen to both parts again. Awesome, great work. Zero Point Now!

Thanks :)

I will certainly do as many interviews with Adam as he will allow, which is a biggie since he really is not that interested in doing interviews that much and this interview took a long time to finally happen, I have had many many hours of conversation with Adam and he has a lot to say on many subjects.

As it stands now though I have to do some interviews I have set up already and Edit those I have "in the can" like Ben Stewart (Esoteric Agenda, Kymatica, UNGRIP) William Bramley (Gods of Eden) & Lloyd Pye (Everything you know is wrong, Starchild)

I will interview him again to be sure but on his time table, as soon as Thrive comes out Adam will more than likely be in demand.


P.S Here is the thing that makes me wonder about all the Human movements/revolutions in history, go back as far as you like, the details change but the social cry for freedom is the same.
These things are so easily co-opted and steered it boggles the mind, lets hope eventually its a fire that is allowed to burn out of control and will temper the steel of our and upcoming generations.

What Adam says about Free Energy NOW! is important, instead of holding up placards calling out the evil bankers and corrupt government so the Custodial Masters can supply you with the "New Order" that the people cried out for.

Instead just let it be known, "We know you Elite manipulators have suppressed knowledge and technologies and we want it available to everyone NOW!!!
"As a planetary species we the 99% have reached our Zero Point, enough is enough!"
"oh ya and while we are at it, You are FIRED!"

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn179/Nazrudin/99-percent_50.jpg

Scott

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

As I have stated before, Adam is the only person I know of like Dennis. They are the Indiana Jones guys, and even though I was with Dennis during his darkest days, I still have a hard time imagining what he lived through. Carrying Dennis’s spear was the greatest honor of my life, but it was also life-wrecking behavior. I will always be recovering from it.

While the Dennises and Adams scale the ramparts, my intention is to provide a pool of awareness that can support them, and thing that is needed the most, by far, is people who think like creators instead of victims. That means that they are motivated by love, not fear, that they own how the world is today and even love it, so that it can be healed and set aside, to make way for the coming dawn. The lamb’s path is what I am interested in (when I released my anger at the evil that I witnessed and bore the brunt of, and instead sacrificed my life to save Dennis, then the miracle happened). For those who want to scale alongside Adam, now is your chance, if he will have you. I am trying to get enough fluffy lambs to break your fall if you come flying off the castle wall after the hot oil hits you, and if enough lambs show up, Godzilla will likely flee in fear (what a movie scene that would be :) ).

The primary reason why these movements collapse is that people think and act like victims instead of creators. The pool of loving integrity needs to form the core. Otherwise, it will end up like the French or Russian or Chinese Revolutions.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

Practical steps:
So where do we go from here, alone I/we continue within a psychodynamic paradigm as individuals, how, without the intervention mirror are we able to move from a fear based dynamic to a love based dynamic? If, as an individual, despite the dynamic we are living in, do we exorcise that which is conditioned into us? How to move from the 'away-from' style of being to the 'toward' style of being.

g

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

As is evident, Adam’s stuff, or Sparky Sweet’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

or Rife’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

or Naessens’s

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

all have the virtue of their technologies operating under principles that defy the physics textbooks. And all of their stuff is like cavemen’s clubs compared to the good stuff that the Big Boys have:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

It is nothing short of incredible to witness the irrational summersaults of denial that mainstream scientists engage in to dismiss those technologies. The “skeptics” are expert at that denial (and some are professionals, working on behalf of Godzilla):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

while the unconscious denial of those “scientists” is a big part of the reason why those pioneers had a rough ride, and is a key to the structuralist view:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ed

it is only part of the picture. Organized suppression is also a key part of it, but far, far less than people like to think. The conspiracists are barking up the wrong tree, too:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

I liked it when Adam called out some of the stuff you see in “conspiratorial” circles as disinformation, such as using HAARP to cause earthquakes. There is way more chaff than wheat out there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#alternatives

Only those with a loving, comprehensive perspective can really see the big picture here. That is part of the problem, and a big part. This is the biggest problem humanity has ever faced, and if we get our act together, what lies on the other side of that hump is hard to imagine, although some of us are making a stab at it:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth

Best,

Hi Gardener:

The answer is within all of us. That is where the true power is. I give plenty of practical advice in my site, such as here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#activities

Best,

Wade

[CdnSirian]

Good morning Wade and all. I have spent two months reading your site Wade, and simultaneously read as much of this forum as I can. I have some writing responsibilities to finish before I can post more here, but I want to say I am proud to run with the lambs. Thank you Wade, and all, for your support in our wooleyness.:)

[sandy]

Hi Everyone,

I think it is important to remember that life is a process and journey for each and everyone of us and the streets are many and diversified to say the least. To say your street is the only street or the street everyone should be on is erroneous and adverse to spirit.

All that are working toward a better world are at differing consciousness and levels of discernment but the intent is the same! A BETTER WORLD :)

Lets not get divisive in defining who is where and what will be the outcome for where they are at, as all are divine in the end and all are part of the process of change and evolution.

Each day I'm saddened more and more by daily and worldly events but it is what it is and change is happening rapidly. I can't fix it today but I can promise you all one thing>>>> my Love, today and into eternity :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

It is time once again, when I try to center this thread (and threads) on my intentions. While I am pleased that readers are getting something out of the “visions” thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth

and the others that some seem to find useful:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32475-Free-Energy-Transition-plans-for-Earth&

there is a method to my madness, and I feel the need to reiterate it again, especially with quite a few new readers chiming in lately, Thrive coming out, Adam’s interviews and so on. I have very specific goals, and some pretty specific ways of getting there. I have seen what does not work, and have no interest in beating those dead horses.

Ultimately, my goal, as far as physical reality goes, is to live on Heaven on Earth. If not in this lifetime, then maybe I will find myself here before long:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

But not everybody wants to live there, and that is OK. Some want to live here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

and others here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

and that is their choice. There is not one reality or one path. Each of us is on our divine journey. As I pursued my path, I found some fellow travelers and allies, but they were very few and far between. For people with scientific training, it is very plain that the human journey, and all life on Earth, rides atop the energy situation. The energy situation is the critical one for the human journey, particularly now, as the pursuit of energy threatens humanity with self-extinction, and that event would likely take a lot of the biosphere with us. It could turn out that way, and I am doing what I can to prevent it.

As I pursued the energy situation, I became involved in events that I sometimes found hard to believe, and I was there, so to speak. I came to find that the people running the planet have not only possessed unlimited energy technology for longer than I have been alive, but they have also gone to great lengths to make sure that humanity does not enjoy the benefit of that technology; and their motives are not benevolent, let me assure you. They are mostly on the dark spiritual path:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

and a craving for what they think of as power dominates their awareness. They would rather destroy the planet than relinquish their “power.” They are some deeply sick people, but they are only masters of a game that almost all humans are playing: the game of fear. I want to play the game of love. That is what I devoted my life to, but it is easier said than done on Earth.

The Big Boys know that energy runs the world, and keeping in control of the energy paradigm – and ensuring that energy is a scarce commodity – is what keeps them on top. That is why they have paid out more than $100 billion in quiet money in my lifetime to keep the lid on the energy situation.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

and those are among their “benign” tactics. But there is also dissention in their ranks:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

which may provide opportunities. My energy journey began as a teenager:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction

and it continues today, although I consider myself semi-retired from the game. My journey was far larger than life, and it was by no means easy, but I kept my eyes open and have seen what does not work, as far as trying to crack the energy nut. I developed a framework a few years ago to assist an understanding of the many levels of awareness that I witnessed over the years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#peeling

I live in Level 12, and am trying to help people get there without getting stuck in the earlier layers. I have only met a few Level 12s in my life so far, but I am trying to amass more that can raise their awareness and focus it on the energy issue. Since very few people have scientific training, most people have very little understanding, at most, about the energy issue. Getting to Level 12 generally takes a comprehensive perspective at the minimum, the kind that Bucky Fuller had:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

People also need to achieve a state of love, not fear, to get to Level 12. One state is energy abundant, and the other is energy scarce. It is all connected. I don’t kid myself that I will find many people who can or want to understand what I am writing about. I have been at this far too long to believe otherwise. I look for needles in haystacks, at around one in a thousand in the general population, if that, and I let the rest of humanity live their lives. The masses are simply not ready at this time for my message. I seek a highly particular audience. At this time, Ilie represents the quintessential person whom I seek. Ilie keeps telling me that he is no hero, and I keep replying, “Great, because I am not looking for heroes.” I am looking for people who can just develop a comprehensive perspective and lay aside their scarcity-based conditioning long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance.

To that end, I have been performing researching in my “spare” time for the past several years, with the goal of writing an essay that will help people develop comprehensive perspectives, which will focus on the energy issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm

I hope to finish that essay next year, and then I plan to begin an invitation-only forum someplace in cyberspace, maybe at Avalon, where I can get a high level conversation going. It will be highly focused. It will not be some kind of all-comers forum where all sorts of wild theories are pursued, or where dubious “facts” from the black ops world are tossed around. It is going to be something different. If that effort meets with success, maybe we can start to get somewhere:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

I will do my best to prevent the conversation from getting distracted with the million sideshows and rabbit holes that await newcomers and the unwary. Getting to Level 12 and staying there is like walking the razor’s edge. I will ask the best of each participant, and I plan on raising my game, too. The effort may well help Heaven on Earth manifest in the not-too-distant future, for those who want to experience it. That is my goal while I live on this planet.

We will see how it all goes.

Best wishes to all,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

A buddy read my latest post and asked me this morning if my approach was “elitist” and maybe guru-like. That I was asked a question like that from somebody that I respect means that I need to do a little clarifying. Just like I wrote about my LA Days (nine posts that begin here):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=319133&viewfull=1#post319133

or my Godzilla posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

I think that I need to go through my adventures of interacting with the public, so where I am coming from today is better understood. In the end, I am trying to amass a nucleus of awareness that can withstand the forces that will be arrayed against it, and it won’t be just Godzilla, but the masses, too. We are not going to force anything on anybody, but will be just standing up for the truth, the light, love, and we will see what happens. I originally saw it as just a support structure for the Adams and Dennises, but it might become something more, but that would all be gravy for me.

Many of you have read a little about my training and precocious nature:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

When I listened to Scott’s interviews with Adam,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=330627&viewfull=1#post330627

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=336132&viewfull=1#post336132

I could relate to a lot of it. I was not in some Star Child program, but the encyclopedia was my bedside friend when I was a child, too. I was a prodigy who was raised to do great things. To then be essentially disowned by the very people who raised me to be what I became was part of the path, I am sad to say. But my mystical awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

my baptism by fire in LA, rescuing a hooker:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=327642&highlight=hooker#post327642

and so on were merely prerequisites for being led to Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

That is when my education really began. There is nobody on Earth like Dennis that I have seen, and I have looked. He is the only person I know of who can successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Nobody has ever brought disruptive technology to the market like Dennis did. What he did in Seattle literally has nothing like it to compare to, that I have ever heard of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

Ventura was a spectacular takedown of our operation. People like Sparky Sweet looked on from afar and in horror:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

as we were being eviscerated, and Sparky was glad that it wasn’t him getting that treatment, although Sparky’s end was a grim one, too.

I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, suffering from PTSD, and I then hit the books for several years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books

Then, after years of him trying to coax me back into the saddle with him, I stepped into Hurricane Dennis again in 1996, and nearly went to prison for my efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

After I discovered how close the bullet came to my head once again, I decided to try for the quiet life, but here I am, stirring things up again. Maybe I never learn (I went over my smiley limit, so there is supposed to be a smiley here).

I eventually came to realize that my training and experiences were rather unique, and that I had a perspective that needed to be out there if humanity was going to have a chance of turning the corner. I certainly am not saying that I have the keys to the kingdom, and it is nice to see Adam going public again, in a way that he has not done for many years, and Dennis is still incredibly trying:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

as they keep trying to take him out. But, I have a unique contribution to make, I think (if I had to title my story, it would be some like The Squire’s Journey :) ), and I am doing what I can, while juggling many balls at once. Will it help at all? Maybe not, but maybe it will. I had to try it out, because I have not seen anybody try it yet, not like I am doing.

Brian O understood. Dennis is the only person I know of who has put disruptive energy technology on the market in a potentially disruptive way. The learning experience that attended those efforts went infinitely beyond garage tinkerers, scientists in their labs, and so on. We got to see how the Establishment’s immune system reacted to a threat like us, and Godzilla was rarely involved, but the local predators usually did the dirty work, unprompted, as they protected their turf or saw opportunity for plunder. It was actually more educational to see how people around me reacted than it was to receive the loving strokes of the sledgehammer, although Mr. Deputy’s performance in the courtroom was my radicalizing moment, which I will probably have to thank him for someday in the Great Hereafter:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

Brian did not go through the meat grinder like I did, and he realized that I had something to teach that probably cannot be learned except through direct personal experience. You really cannot teach somebody this stuff, not at the highest levels, until they have been there, but I am trying to steer people in the direction that I intend without asking them to risk their lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and people like Ilie are doing the work. That is literally about all that I ask. While what Ilie is doing may seem rather mundane, people might not appreciate how rare what he is doing is. I have almost never encountered it. I can almost count students like Ilie on one hand. Reading his posts is truly an awesome experience, as I see that somebody can get it. Ilie quickly went through the early layers of the FE Onion, and I think that he is close to Level 12,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

if he is not there already. Watching Ilie get it told me that what I have to teach can be learned, although Ilie certainly did not start at square one. He already had many of the prerequisites out of the way. Ilie does not entirely like being made an example of in this way, and I am sorry to do it (but only sorry a little), but that is what he bit off when he began interacting with me here at Avalon. :) This stuff is not easy, not by any means, and we all get to have our moments of doubt. That is part of the price of admission.

With that preamble, out of the way, here is how I came to my current approach, that I have yet to really try out, but it is coming soon, I hope.

I grew up in the Southern California mystical scene, and just about saw it all by the time I was in my thirties. I know the perils of playing guru, and so on.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

EST became a Werner Erhard cult. I took EST at age 21, and quickly saw what it was. Like Scientology, the material can be wonderful, but it is then used for cultish ends. That is pretty standard, in a world of scarcity. When I lived in Ohio, I encountered the most accomplished mystical community that I ever saw, but a bunch of them joined an A Course in Miracles cult in Wisconsin. It really threw me for a loop to watch that happen. Visiting that cult was quite the experience, as they tried to recruit me. I thought I had seen it all in Southern California, but that A Course in Miracles cult was something else. I was sympathetic to what they were trying to do, and attempting to fill the obvious void inside themselves was a worthy goal, but it was sad all the same.

After I hired a professional editor and finished my site in 2002 (I really wish I had a year to rewrite it all, but it is time that I do not have right now), I actually went quiet for years, as the crazy and vicious attacks escalated after 9/11, and I was entering the dark phase of my midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

When I began to reengage the public in 2007, I discovered that the situation on the Internet had deteriorated greatly, and trolls dominated public forums, and I knew that many were professionals. Then I tried a specialized forum at ATS, where I hoped that that the participants would not go brain-dead at the mention of FE, and attack me for being a “conspiracy theorist,” and so on. Well, ATS sure turned out differently than I thought it would. The trolls came swarming, the ATS administrators would not police it, and they banned me when the trolls ganged up on me.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#_edn1

About the same time that ATS banned me (and I had several other weird forum experiences in those days), I did my first public interview:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm

and Bill and Kerry interviewed Brian and me the next year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm

and my climb to fame began, which I am very ambivalent about. I don’t like being recognized in public, and it is beginning to happen. After my ATS and similar experiences, I realized that all-comers forums, especially where the members are anonymous, will not work. I joined this forum when my JFK research was being discussed several years ago.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx

and that is about what I have in mind for my “invitation-only” forum. You don’t see it on my Avalon threads much, but there are some pretty accomplished members at Avalon who contact me privately. Some are leading seminars on this stuff, borrowing heavily from my work, while others are running corporations and waiting for me to begin class. They usually remark that I seem to be a glutton for punishment, as I kept answering the same elementary questions over and over and over on my thread, as people asked if this or that inventor “had it,” and so on. I reply that it is my patience training :) :

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

We all get to work on our “stuff” here, and it is no different for me.

Inventor-itis is an early-stage awareness,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

but almost everybody who hears about FE gets stuck there for a while, as you can see on this thread, and that is partly my karma, I suppose, as inventors were my early orientation, too, and Dennis is about the biggest inventor promoter of all time. Inventor-itis is a big trap for the technically-minded, who think that they can invent an FE machine in their garage (delusion number one), and think that if they somehow get one going (it happens from time-to-time), then it is a downhill race to bringing FE to the world (delusion number two). Inventors with FE prototypes are a dime a dozen. They usually succumb to their own foibles or those of their “allies” as greed and other fear-based emotions take over, and Godzilla barely has to open an eye at that stage. Then the local energy interests usually take them out, before Godzilla ever needs to lift a claw. Only when somebody like Dennis starts flying high, or people like Adam start demonstrating FE prototypes in Manhattan, or Sparky mails working prototypes to the big energy institutions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

does Godzilla even need to roll out of bed. And he is good at what he does, let me tell you. He is the consummate professional at taking out aspirants, and has developed a science for doing it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph

But I have constantly encountered highly naïve people, in both the FE milieu and at places like Avalon, who think they have it all figured out, and they have zero experience in playing the game at the high levels. Again, it is my patience training, and some days are better than others.

I am going to use a math analogy here, and the analogy has it limits, as with all analogies. For those with a math background, they know that the math curriculum builds on itself. People need to be able to add two-plus-two before they can multiply, and they need to be able to add fractions before they can do algebra, and algebra is the arithmetic of calculus (and they learn geometry and trigonometry along the way). In fact, people really don’t get algebra “down” until they do calculus.

I have been at this stuff for nearly forty years now, and my energy journey began when I had my mystical awakening and my first professional mentor invented the world’s best engine for powering an automobile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and I spent two months in Europe that same year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

Age sixteen was my year of awakening on several fronts, and I consider it the beginning of my adulthood, but I was just beginning the journey.

I am not saying that I have all the answers, not by any means, but I plan to teach a very specific curriculum. When Bill started this Avalon forum, I saw that he came to the conclusion that I did, in that all-comers forums will not work for subject matter like this, and I will always be grateful to Bill for mounting it. However, even with Avalon, although they are keeping the obvious trolls at bay, I discovered early on that I am trying to teach algebra with people who are still learning arithmetic, and I have not taken the curriculum beyond beginning algebra yet. That is not “elitist.” I just have calculus to teach, and can’t find the pupils yet, except for an Ilie here and there. That few people have the courage to even use their real names at Avalon tells me that the pupils will be few and far between. The fear of the anonymous says that they are not ready.

I sat at Mr. Mentor’s and Dennis’s feet for many years, and was taught by two world-class geniuses, but the real education was going through the meat grinder. I am still in awe of their talents and what they learned on their journeys, but I eventually left to do my own thing. I am hoping that something similar happens with what I am doing, where I become a learning stop for those who are going to make it happen. I am getting too old and worn out for the game. :) I maybe have another ten good years in me, where I can work twelve-hour days at my day job, run a household, maintain my health, and do the writing for my site and participate at places like Avalon.

It is true that I am here to teach what I learned, to the extent that it can be, but I need to get the calculus class going, and I can’t do it when the potential pupils are stuck in multiplying fractions. Many are not going to like to hear that, and I will be accused of playing “elitist,” playing guru, and so on. I will always be wary of that happening, believe me, but what I will be trying to do is teach calculus in a world where the public conversations are at the arithmetic level, if that. There need to be some calculus graduates who can form a nucleus of heart-centered awareness, or the FE train will never get built and leave the station. I highly doubt that mass movement, lowest-common-denominator strategies have much of a chance.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

I learned that game from the master, and saw the many downsides of that approach. Dennis eventually realized himself that his approach probably did not have much of a chance, but he incredibly still tries it. He did try to make the audience smaller and more engaged, but the Christianity, “Patriot” and commerce paths have huge downsides.

I am trying to form a class that will not sacrifice quality to water it down for the masses. The conversation will be publicly available, so anybody can take it, and it sure would be nice to see others begin similar classes (and some are), but people will have to pass some entrance requirements to be in the interactive part of the curriculum. And class will be free. :)

I have an ego like we all do, and I wake up with mine and have to deal with it every day, but I am doing my best to keep it in the back seat while I take on something with epochal importance for the human race. There were times when I had fleeting delusions of grandeur during my days with Dennis (when we flew high, it was high indeed):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

and I have seen many fall deeply into that pothole and never emerge. So, I will do my best to steer us all clear of that one. :) Dennis also got humbled with body-cavity searches in prison, and so on. Part of the challenge for those who walk the path very far is to learn how rare they are:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

without letting their egos tell them how special they are. Oh, those like Dennis, Brian, Adam and the like are on special assignment, and that comes with unique blessings and challenges, let me tell you, but in the end, achieving humility in all of that is one of the greatest challenges, and I still work on it every day.

I hoped that that helped clarify my position. What I am doing is certainly not for everybody, but if that calculus-graduate choir can ever form, I think it will help.

I have a very busy weekend and next few weeks ahead of me, and I doubt that I will get my Brian essay finished before Thrive opens on November 11, but I am going to try. I will probably be pretty quiet at Avalon for a while, so I can get the other stuff done (how often have you seen me write that? :) )

Best wishes to all,

Wade

[CdnSirian]

Many thoughts flying re the above post Wade. I truly appreciate your strategy and I understand the "guru sensitivity" on your part and on your friend's who made that reference. While I am a nano-sized player in the outward game that is right now, I have been too close to the cult-mafias and I have been soul-cavity searched and thank god not the other. I too entered arenas naively, to help change the world and luckily was in the position to withdraw only somewhat scathed when deceptions became apparent. I don't feel that not using my name here, is cowardly, and maybe that can change. I am very cautious about participating in anything and prefer to give support in prayer and intent, yet this forum became compelling after I read your site and then saw discussion going on with you here. Am certainly wary of the wool being pulled over my eyes--yet this seems like different wool--organic, home-grown, not dipped in pesticide, and well spun. Wooliness to all, and very green meadows.

[sandy]

There seems to be tension throughout many of the posts here at Avalon and Nexus these days and I too find myself more anxious than a few months ago! I put it down to my comfort zone being stretched right now as well as all the grunge going on in the world today. Maybe it is more than that and I was wondering if others are experiencing the same.

This speeding up of things "theory" may have something to do with it also as I sure have a sense of urgency for the paradigm to shift. I have been contemplating taking a break from my two favorite forums but have not figured out if this is avoidance or time to step back for a breather. Your feedback and perceptions are appreciated as you are basically the only sounding board I have. :)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

Briefly, because I am way too busy right now….

Hi CdnSirian:

I did not say that you were a coward, but I stated that people not using their real names is part of the problem with the Internet. Fear is really the only reason why people do not use their real names. Some can call it caution, but that is really the fear of an outcome that people are trying to avoid. I do not put a mug shot of myself on the Internet, so I won’t be easily recognized in public (people can still recognize me from the pictures that are out there, and they have). I suppose that can be called a fear thing. I don’t want to be approached by people on the street. I am an introvert, not a man of the people, and the nature of what I do brings up very strong emotions with people, to put it mildly.

I work at a dot.com, and am a life-long geek. Anonymity is one of the worst ideas to end up on the Internet (along with email spam, which could be easily prevented, but nobody wants to be accountable). There is no good reason for it (maybe one-in-a-million people need anonymity, like a legitimate whistle-blower, and even then, they really can’t hide for long). It encourages people to act like children, in a bad way. The problem is partly structural, in that such a system was encouraged. But, for the conversation that I plan to mount, nobody is going to play the anonymity game. It is time to stand up and be counted, not act like some secret society. Again, this is a structural issue, and it can be called poorly conceived, but it might have been diabolically conceived, like so much of our indoctrination and conditioning. We all need to step up our games to get over the hump, and shedding such bad conditioning is part of the process.

Here is an example of how the system works to indoctrinate people into the darkness. I work around lawyers every day. In law school, they are trained to argue any position. In theory, it is to develop professional skills, so they can serve their client, innocent or guilty. What it does, however, is encourage lawyers to become BS-artists. That training to argue any position is part of their conditioning that turns the goal of lawyering from justice (if it ever was) to winning. It is similar to medical doctors being indoctrinated into knives and drugs.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#training

What is right and just becomes secondary, and often a distant second. I have seen how truly meaningless the justice idea can be in the minds of those in the legal system:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#lie

So, the lawyer-in-training learns to argue any position, which serves them well, if winning is the overarching goal. I have seen people close to me become lawyers, and watched them go in starry-eyed, to see them later emerge from the lawyering process bitter and cynical. The adversarial nature of the American legal system is also something that will become obsolete in a world of abundance. Wrong thread. Sorry Ilie! :)

Hi Sandy. I would follow your intuition. Take a break. These are intense times. When times get intense, it is not easy to hang in there. Being an American after 9/11 and for the invasion of Iraq was a nightmare that continues.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

Now with NATO being unabashedly on an offensive mission, to topple the governments of strategic nations, especially ones with oil ( :) ), to install our puppets, times are grim indeed. The energy situation is directly related to the international financial crises, and stealing other nations’ hydrocarbons, while killing off large fractions of their populations, certainly will not turn out well.

I have a bunch of psychologist pals, and when I saw those World Trade Center towers smoking ten years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

I knew that there would be no shortage of work for the profession, and it has been that way, although playing the Mengele game with people at Gitmo and elsewhere is a black mark for the profession.

The general levels of stress are highly elevated, and have been so for some time. In the USA, everybody over fifty knows that their careers are over if they lose their jobs. I have been at the same job for eight years and looked forward to taking a year off when my day comes (everybody’s day eventually comes, especially in high tech), but I have been told that I can’t do it. If I do, I will never work again. So, I am on a march of doing it until my health fails or I am finally put into involuntary “retirement.” I know people older than me who lost their career positions ten years ago, and their careers never recovered. Now, that is just the USA, but all industrialized nations are feeling the strain right now. Bush’s handlers worked for the dark side of the force, as do Obama’s handlers. I don’t consider the American president to really have much power, but the kinds of imperial behaviors that I am seeing is a symptom of some really bad stuff happening behind the scenes, and it is playing out in increased stress levels that manifest in a lot of generalized tension. What you are feeling is accurate, IMO.

I look back at the last ten years, and we are in the transition times for humanity. On one hand, these times needed to come, but on the other, these sure are “interesting” times that we live in, and I hope to live to see us turn the corner, where we stop putting our toes over the edge of the abyss, and have interesting fun instead of playing chicken with the planet.

Gotta run.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

Hi Sandy and Cnd Sirian, I stand in a similar place I think, maybe we are not quite so imobilsed as we or others think. It is very easy to fall in the hole of deception and be of no use to anyone, effectivly silenced. Like this thread (and others like it) are silenced on 'Avalon' as a whole, by that I mean look at the 'thread sliders' at work right now its appaling.

This work, the work of any who break free is a very ancient art/skill bringing with it a great deal of pain and also responsibility. Once past a certain point or threshold it can become easier because we see more, and therefore are better able to avoid the 'holes of deception'. Which in turn brings us to a place of being less prone to the pitfalls of the matrix/general law, and a safer protective cage from within which to operate.

Hi Wade
I disagree with your conclusion of why people use a different name than our given name on a forum, it surprises me that you have reached that conclusion. Firstly on the surface it seems that to use your given name is to not fly beneath the radar, thus inviting attack, but secondly who is 'cathryn' I don't know who 'cathryn' is yet. Gardener is who I am for now, I sow seeds, I tend the seeds I grow, I grow with them. I am sure you understand what I am saying here. You have a great website with a lot of energy Wade, it is not being wasted. It is as much our resposibility to assess who our mentors are, as it is to be 'selected' to become a 'pupil'.

Gravity waves are not always the same! The weight is sometimes easier to move, we move towards that place however! (from a NON mathematical person called gardener)

Much love

best
g

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Gardener:

I guess that I have too much experience in Internet forums to buy the “I am not sure who I am, so I am Mountain Buck in this forum” line of logic. Maybe that is where you are coming from, and that is OK for you. You have admitted your timidity already in this forum, and I sympathize, but I am looking for people who are a little courageous. I already gave an example of the kind of forum that I have in mind:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx

It is a cyber-gathering of real people, not a masquerade party. It is like “Hi, I am Wade Frazier,” and the others I interact with will do likewise. All the nom de plume stuff has no place in my plans, and will weaken them. The Big Boys play the anonymous game, with all of their secrets, etc. I am playing a different game. If I end up playing it with five people, that is OK.

I have seen anonymity extremely abused in cyberspace, and I am not the only one who discusses it:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2193392,00.asp

I take people who do not use real names a lot less seriously than I do people like Ilie. For the rants that Ernie sometimes makes (which he also apologizes for :) ), he is using his real name, and I take him seriously, if for no other reason than that, but Ernie also brings plenty to the table. For all I know, there are fifteen-year-olds posing as adults at Avalon, and vice versa, and so on. That is part of the problem with cyberspace. Because Bill was able to create a cloistered forum, I have seen quite a few posters get lulled into a sense of complacency and misperception. If I was doing this in an all-comers forum, trolls would camp on the threads, and some would be professionals, and I suspect that there are people at Avalon on the payroll who are, as you have noted, trying to lead the conversations astray in subtle ways, instead of playing outright troll.

When I get that forum going, there are going to be a bunch of forces arrayed against it. At some level, all people understand that I am advocating the end of the world as they know it, and nobody has a lukewarm reaction to it. People in my circles receive death threats and murder attempts, and they are usually also ostracized by friends and family, because they broke out of the herd. That is the standard fate of whistleblowers, too:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#whistleblower1

Adam’s “one-murder-attempt-per-year” statement in his interviews with Scott is more extreme than most of my fellow travelers receive, but to “join the club” of high-level FE activists, you have to survive at least one murder attempt – and that is why I am only a squire. :) That stuff just comes with the territory. Dennis is probably alive because he is too much of a folk hero to rub out. His visibility may have saved his life, and he likely has “protection” from otherworldly places.

I plan to play the game at a level where I don’t receive death threats and murder attempts, but we will see. Some people think that that is what I am heading toward, and maybe I am, but I am trying to avoid it. I am not looking for heroes, but people also need to be worldly enough to smell Godzilla’s minions when they show up. That is why I made those Godzilla posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=305681&viewfull=1#post305681

He is watching, and there is some evidence that he is sniffing around. There are many ways that what I am attempting can fall off the rails, and I will be aiming for the highest that I can for starters, and I will insist that the effort is made of real people. We are going to be on stage, and a big part of my intent is to help people find their courage, and a bunch of anonymous people sure aren’t going to inspire that. My intent is highly specific, and does not mesh with playing the anonymity game. Enough said.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

Hi Wade
I am sorry if you were slightly offended by my post, your reactions have not gone unheard, and believe me I need no convincing of the danger people in 'the field' are in.

Anyway my point was.....If you truly want to suceed at this why do you continue to put your head above the parapet at this stage? I have to wonder.

[CdnSirian]

"I plan to play the game at a level where I don’t receive death threats and murder attempts, but we will see. Some people think that that is what I am heading toward, and maybe I am, but I am trying to avoid it. I am not looking for heroes, but people also need to be worldly enough to smell Godzilla’s minions when they show up." Wade I do pray that you never receive death threats when you get your own forum up and happening. And I also pray that "worldly enough" = "real names" works for you too.
Wade, Sandy and Gardener, I appreciate this opportunity for all of us to connect here. Sounds like it's been a long haul for all of us, and--here we are! In wooliness.

[sandy]

Thank you,

I always get more centered after reading your input and wisdom and appreciate your care and feedback. I'm going to take a few days off and allow myself to grieve. My heart aches from all the destruction of life and Mother Earth and I find I'm crying unabashedly when watching, or hearing what we are doing to one another.

I will be back but in the meantime will take your love with me to shelter and hold me in the light of LOVE !

Thank You my Brothers and Sisters, I love You :)

[Gardener]

Hugs Sandy, doing the same as you.
love
g

[Tahi]

My name is Shane Edgecombe :-)

[CdnSirian]

Sandy, Gardener, yes recent events are disgusting and heartbreaking. The official stories and celebration horrible. Nothing new, and yet newly draining. Regards.

Hi Shane.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

No Gardener, no offense taken. I am being clear on my intention. Why do I try to make the world a better place to live in? Why have I “thrown my life away” on my path like I have? That was how I came into this world, and it was also my training. Everybody that I know like me had similar paths, but we also had something inside that made us how we are:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

We usually believed the BS that the system raised us with, but we were true believers (no casual salutes for us), and pursued our desires to make the world a better place. We all got to eventually experience, in one way or another, the lie of our indoctrination. We also came to realize that there are almost none others like us. It is difficult to express the feelings that come up when you arrive at that realization. Being attacked and disowned by family and friends, because we refused to play the cowardly game of being a quiet member of the herd, might have been the hardest part of our journeys. I have to look myself in the eye everyday as I shave. My conscience will not let me sit back and do nothing.

The evil-minded people running the world, playing the Pied Piper of humanity’s and the planet’s destruction, are playing a role that we all have let them play, as we have abdicated responsibility for our lives. People like me are not going to sit around and play the accomplice and victim to their evil plans. But we are also not going to attack them, because that is what victims do. It is time to act like creators, and they always act with love. That is far easier said than done, and when you see some who seem like me advocate coercion and violence, it means that they are either too wounded from their journey, or they are not who they appear to be.

Godzilla has been aware of me since 1986, when I became Dennis’s spear carrier. I have had to assume that I have been under surveillance for the past twenty-five years, and anybody who interacts with me will be on the radar, and I don’t care how well they think they are hiding. That just comes with the territory. Adam, Dennis, Brian, Greer and others received murder attempts, while I have gotten off easier, so far. I am not trying to attract a murder attempt, but I am doing what I can to raise the awareness of enough of us that we can move the boulder. A couple of would-be Atlases cannot get it done, although their efforts have been awe-inspiring to witness. I am seeing if a harmonic effect can be created, by people who can simply sing the abundance tune. In order to do that, they have to shed their scarcity-based thinking, at least while they are singing. :) Ilie is singing the song. He picked it up amazingly quickly, and when I see that, I realize that the hymnal can be learned.

But I also am not going to ask more of people than they can give (the would-be heroes need to go see Dennis, Adam, and so on), but there will be some minimum requirements, and one is that they act like a real person, not somebody hiding behind a mask. It is just aligned with my goal. If I allow behaviors that undermine my goal, I ain’t going anywhere. And I meant it, that if I can only find five people who can do it, then five is what we are, and we will see what we can do. It will be interesting if nothing else, and it may end up being a critical contribution to getting humanity over the hump. Some will hear the call. And for those who do, I am here for them, as much as I can be, while working 14-hour days like I did yesterday, being only one person juggling many balls at once, and who is getting old. :)

I don’t kid myself that a thousand people will come running to join the choir. I found Ilie and a few others. I can work with that.

Sandy, take your grieving break, my darling. We all need time for that. In Adam’s interview with Scott, he said that he was in “retreat” for years. That is part of what the Indiana Joneses have to do periodically. For somebody like Dennis, he used his time behind bars to write his books, because he was finally slowed down long enough to do it. That was his “down time.” When he told me, from solitary confinement, how nice and quiet it was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#solitary

it was just the kind of thing that he would say. A few weeks later, I was sacrificing my life to spring him, and it incredibly worked, and he and I both know that the “hand of God” came through then. So, the journey has not been without its rewards, but to have to go to those lengths to have the divine hand reach down and help, seems to be how it works.

I have had my down times and retreats. We need them to charge our batteries.

Hi Shane, nice to meet you. :)

Thanks for all the thoughts. They help.

Gotta run off to work now.

Best,

Wade

[zebowho]

Hi Wade, I really appreciate your last few posts which I think centers this thread back somewhat.

First, the "guru" status your friend might have seen in one of your posts, I would have to respectfully disagree while at the same time I can see where some people might get that impression. You are in a unique position to offer a... germinated seed if you will. An idea that you have already planted and with our collective imagination (and intent) will water that seed to eventually see the light of day. Now the oneness is on us to Not put that guru label on anything you are trying to do but more so to be honest about your attempt. Your unique position gives experience for those of us willing to listen and participate but needn't make a guru, again it is on the rest of the "choir" to Not cross that line.

Anonymity, I will agree with your assessment there, frankly my user name has been more of the "old fashioned" nick name as I've had it for longer than I can remember. Nick's on forms or any internet site are only "feel good" types of things anyway. Any kind of tracking online is done with IP/MAC addresses so for those who think a simple nick name is hiding their identity is banking on a false hope, unless your good at obscuring those addresses, which most don't have any idea how to.

"Its time real people need to stand and be counted", I completely agree here as well. While I have no misgivings about the dangers that come with the FE territory, the abundance choir is all too important to not act.

Thank your friend since his observation helps to keep us all in check when singing this tune!

Chad (aka -z)

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Chad:

Thanks for your understanding. Yes, it is challenging to walk this line between getting a choir going, helping people get to Level 12, and not be seen as some kind of guru, etc. Again, this issue has such overwhelming importance for the human journey that the reactions that people have, to many facets of the conundrum, can be extreme, to put it mildly.

When I was a lot younger, in the game with Dennis, I would not only get attacked all the time, but others would put me on a pedestal, seeing me as a hero. Whenever they did that, it always ended badly. Putting me on a pedestal was their trip, and then they would later try to tear me down as part of their ego process. Or, if they did not try to tear me down, those around them would.

On the anonymity and hiding out, the Big Boys have surveillance technology that we can barely dream of. When Greer interacted with some of the Big Boys, the so-called benevolent part, as they parted company once they told Greer that if he wanted to talk with them again, to just say so. Greer said, “How do I contact you?” They replied to just say that he wanted to talk. He could just say it into the air, wherever he was in the world, and they would hear him. When he was briefing officials about twenty years ago, I think it was the head of the CIA who tried cloak-and-dagger tricks to go under the radar to pass messages along. The next time that Greer encountered the Big Boys, they laughed at the head of the CIA’s lame attempts at secrecy.

If you play this game, you have to assume that they know everything you are doing. It keeps you honest if nothing else. :)

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi All :)

I am sorry in advance if you find this post to be a spam... :(

Wade, you once mentioned grandmothers as the best keepers of safety in the free energy world. On another thread (i am not so proud of creating, now) Nora (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33288-Origins-Of-Bottled-Water...-P&p=340564&viewfull=1#post340564) has brought to my attention this:
"INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL OF THIRTEEN INDIGENOUS GRANDMOTHERS" (http://www.grandmotherscouncil.org/)
Here is their mission statement:

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We are deeply concerned with the unprecedented destruction of our Mother Earth and the destruction of indigenous ways of life. We believe the teachings of our ancestors will light our way through an uncertain future.

We look to further our vision through the realization of projects that protect our diverse cultures: lands, medicines, language and ceremonial ways of prayer and through projects that educate and nurture our children

Here is one of theirs video...
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Just wanted to share this in case you have not heard of it...