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Scott
30th January 2012, 05:13
I think its just part of planetary species evolution, FE has been suppressed of that there is no doubt but suppression has a shelf life IMO.
Question is, is the shelf life based on our ability to use FE for benign purposes (meaning universal patterns)OR is it suppressed just from elite forces wanting to maintain control.
Scott
Wade Frazier
30th January 2012, 16:21
Hi Scott:
Yes, it will not last forever. We will likely either destroy ourselves (Michael says that ensouled species with the ability to manipulate their environment do it a third of the time – while in their Young Soul phase, which we are in http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael ), or the upcoming upheaval will end the suppression:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#summary
I vote for option 2. :)
Best,
Wade
Ernie Nemeth
30th January 2012, 17:16
I don't know if I've said this before or if others have. I think we all understand this at a visceral level at least.
Capitalism is not about "money". Capitalism is about exploitation. That is what capitalism means, pure and simple - exploitation. That a word was borrowed that had a different meaning than as newly used is not that surprising, really, considering how TPW operate. Capitalism is about capitalizing on a resource, invention, idea, to the detriment of all others. The "secret" meaning of our underlying motivator, "capitalism", is how they creep into our minds and our hearts and veer us away from our "natural" tendancies.
So, if you did not know until now, "Capitalism" equals "exploitation". Money is just a means to that end.
Ernie Nemeth
30th January 2012, 17:22
BTW, I never left. I meant to leave but I have nowhere to go.
My life is just a waiting game now - waiting for others to catch up, or not. Either way, here I am, waiting.
Patience I've learnt the hard way long ago. My patience now verges on, well..., if not hopelessness, I at least won't hold my breath.
And I still maintain, that when people tire of exploiting their neighbors, getting one up on the Jones', becoming a millionaire in business or upon retirement, etc., then we can have a world of abundance overnite.
With or without FE.
Wade Frazier
30th January 2012, 17:30
Hi:
I have to run off to a long workweek in a few minutes, but wanted to write a little on the evolution of our perspectives. The few that I have met like me were all Boy Scout types, and we all believed the BS at first, probably because we needed to:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts
We all had our initial moment of truth where we saw through the lies or, more appropriately, had our noses rubbed in it, such as Ralph McGehee in Saigon:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#saigon
or Dennis in that bank lobby:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice
or me on the witness stand:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces
Of course, I had many moments of awakening before that one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#why
and Ralph and Dennis had many more after their initial awakening. But, we were all still reluctant to accept what a benighted species we were members of. Our mantra was something like, “There has to be somebody out there who cares.” Dennis believed that the electric companies would welcome him in Seattle. Before Ventura, Dennis figured that justice could be found in America’s legal system if you pressed into it far enough. He went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, and found that the system was evil from one end to the other. Ralph still believes, I think, that if everybody had the chance to learn what he did, they would have. He is wrong, blessed man that he is. Most people do not want to know the truth. Their truth begins and ends at their belly, loins, and temporarily sating their addictions, which is why the bread-and-circuses trick always works.
In Ventura, after I had witnessed about the tenth attempt to steal our company, I remarked to Dennis how shocking it was to see, and Dennis said that the first fifty times he saw it, he was shocked, too:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#shocked
Everybody whom I know that has played at the high levels comes to the moment when they are disgusted with humanity. The ones still active overcame it, and that can only be done with love. It has not been an easy journey, by any means, and fools like me still look for those who care, and surprise of surprises, I seem to be finding some. :) What we may be able to accomplish is still an open question, but we will see how it goes.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
31st January 2012, 03:55
Hi Ernie:
Ah yes, the patience game. :)
Capitalism and money are effects of scarcity, not causes. Only abundance can make scarcity obsolete, and that has everything to do with energy. All dominant ideologies for all time have been exploitative, because they justified who got the chips in a world of scarcity. I don’t care if it was feudalism, organized religion, or other “primitive” ideologies, or more modern ones such as nationalism, capitalism, and scientism.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
In the end, they all exalted one group at the expense of others, because there was only so much to go around. All elites for all time have engaged in conspicuous economic consumption as a mark of their status. Long ago, it was harems, bejeweled crowns, palaces, spectacular grave goods, and the like. Now it is rocket rides into space (the most energy-intensive activity on Earth). When everybody has as much energy as they need to live a free and abundant life, then those games will cease.
All the situations that you describe are conditioned by economic scarcity; they aren’t causes of it. There are “positive feedbacks,” but they are really ancillary to the engine that drives it all, which is energy and always has been.
Slavery was considered “normal” only a few hundred years ago. Rising standards of living, due to harnessing greater amounts of energy, made the institution obsolete; abolitionist movements were an outgrowth of the economic situation, not the other way around. The bonobos are a great example of how greater energy security led to a different social organization that allowed them to be the first great ape to escape male domination as the primary social organizing principle.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo
Humans have not achieved it yet ( :) ), but industrialized societies have come the closest, because everybody rides on the backs of the “energy slaves” instead of human slaves. Energy is freedom, in its most real sense:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5
The day that people can wake up and say, “I don’t need to eat anymore, I grew beyond that need,” then I will agree that the energy issue is not all that important to civilization. Until then, we are all greatly subject to our economic situation, which is based on energy. The exchange aspect of economics is relatively meaningless; it is the production aspect that sets the tune, not the exchange one. Our blinkered species tends to assume away the factors that it cannot seem to immediately impact, so the energy situation is ignored by the masses, but that is similar to that old metaphor of fighting over who gets the best berths on the Titanic. A civilization that is burning through its primary resource a million times as fast as it was created cannot be an abundant one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#_edn6
It can be an exuberant one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance
until the resource runs out, but that is a far cry from abundance.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
1st February 2012, 06:08
Hi:
This is kind of an addendum to the previous post. I was always the eager student, from the time I could walk. When I had my mystical awakening:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my
I became quite the spirituality initiate for the next eleven years before I met Dennis. I distinctly remember being fascinated with spiritual study, but I also remember asking myself what the practical importance of any of it was; it was not going to pay the bills. I now know that I was being prepared for my journey. But, really, the things that were important for my journey with Dennis were taught to me by age five:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting
The basics don’t change. But as I staggered out of Ventura, radicalized, I realized that everybody who failed the tests did not heed those lessons of decency that we are all taught when young. The so-called “heroes” were those who simply took those early lessons to heart. It was not so difficult to understand, conceptually. We overgrown Boy Scouts were all guilty of projecting our motivation onto others, thinking that they were similarly motivated. That was our folly. We eventually learned, however. More than twenty years ago, as I was reeling from the aftermath of the Ventura experience, I encountered this quote from Machiavelli:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli
and it hit me right between the eyes. The sooner that people in this “cutting edge” field accept that nugget of wisdom from Mr. Realpolitik, the easier it will go for them. The masses are not going to wake up to FE and abundance until it is delivered to their homes. That is not to judge them; that is simply where they are. I am not trying to wake up my neighbors, family, or co-workers to FE. If people want to jeopardize their family relationships, friendships, and jobs/careers, then go for it, but I would not advise it. I am trying to do something very different. That choir that I am looking to form will not be found in any town or nation. There are simply vanishingly few people who can reach Level 12 these days:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
If enough Level 12s can be found, or can be taught to become Level 12s, then the Internet may be able to help amass a nugget that can focus its awareness. That is what I am trying to do. It might be a total failure, but I had to try it. I am not looking for FE tinkerers, FE activists, warriors who want to risk their lives engaging Godzilla, and so on. I am just looking for people who can lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
so that they can imagine abundance:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance
That may seem like a useless exercise, but I know that Godzilla has devoted prodigious resources to prevent people from even imagining the world that FE can bring about. If we can’t imagine it, we certainly can’t pursue it.
Everybody like me had to find out the hard way about the receptivity amongst the masses to the FE and abundance message. What we found was that almost everybody who was awake in the slightest was busy hacking at a branch, and would not seek, or was incapable of seeking, the root. That is part of the conundrum, and it took people like me, Brian O, Dennis and the others like us many years to begin to see the picture. If everybody who saw the picture had to go through what we did, there would never be enough people on Earth at any one time who could see through the illusion and break on through to the other side. We would all be lone voices in the wilderness, finding out the truth so late in life that it did no good, other than to take some hard-earned knowledge to our graves.
I am trying to help people reach a certain level of understanding without going through the FE meat grinder, because very few people can survive the experience. But the more people who can begin to understand how the land really lies, the better chance that that minefield will eventually be navigated. Lone rangers can’t do it, nor can a band of heroes, but a stampede of lambs might be able to. The end result may be a tasty plate of lamb chops, but I am doing what I can to avoid that outcome. :)
We will see how it goes.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
3rd February 2012, 04:10
Hi:
I have been chipping away at the work for my energy essay. In another little preview of the essay’s thrust, energy is always the central game for life on Earth. Acquiring, preserving, and using energy is the primary preoccupation of all life forms. I have been reading a lot of biology lately, and am finishing up Why Men Won’t Ask For Directions, and reading a lot about the interactions of genetics, environment, behavior, and evolution. It is always interesting, but from a mystically-awakened perspective, the materialism sometimes reeks in biological research. In most accounts, there will be at least some mention of how the animals studied are often killed and dissected. Some don’t really mention it, however, which really says a lot about the milieu. As Seth said, when a biologist kills a frog to find out how it lived, he ends knowing less of life when finished than before he began. Sometimes I will see accounts of how humanely the animals are killed for dissection, but the whole business is usually glossed over. Dark stuff, and the findings from such a system and worldview can be regressive in ways that such scientists cannot seem to fathom. Back in the 1990s, when I last looked into it, about 100 million animals were killed in American laboratories every year.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#vivisection
It is currently heading more in this direction:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade
than it is this one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
I am sorry to say. In the coming weeks, I will make some posts of those negative visions on that thread that Robert began, to get that stuff out on the table to look at.
Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
4th February 2012, 03:54
Hi:
I need to make a post. In all likelihood, the people who really need to understand this post either can’t or refuse to, but it can be a shorthand for me, like the FE Levels:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart
that I can refer to without repeating myself a thousand times.
I am trying to help people let go of their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
so that they can simply imagine what an abundance-based world can look like:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
That is really all that I am trying to do, and may be all that I will ever try to do with my public work.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#imagine
I am not interested in analyzing the efforts of the next FE aspirant who is playing the inventor/capitalist game, or people selling blueprints for making an FE machine in your garage with parts that you can buy at the hardware store (sometimes the scammers seem to have read my site to get their ideas :) http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#build), and I am not interested in the latest New Agey “message” from some alleged insider, or if Nibiru is on its way, what 2012 does or doesn’t mean, and so on. That is virtually all circus and distraction, and I have no interest in it. I don’t venture into other Avalon threads, except rarely, or participate much in other forums. This and its related threads are about the only current interactions that I am having with the public.
I am also a semi-nerd hermit who works in a skyscraper, which is challenging for me. They know when to keep me in my cage and when to let me out to do my thing; it pays well and I have no interest in giving it up anytime soon. I am not interested in pressing the flesh with the public, going on tour, becoming a celebrity, etc. I am beginning to become famous, and I don’t really like it (it is also dangerous, in this field), but it seems to come with the territory. My message is about the message, not the messenger. My stories of my journey are primarily about what I learned on my journey, and how it led to where it did.
People such as Dennis, Brian and others have played the man-of-the-people role, they were very good at it, and I supported them when they did, but I am retired from playing spear carrier. People are constantly pulling at me with their agenda, and they almost invariably try to get me to be something that I am not, or try to enlist my time and energy for their agenda. Well, I have my agenda, and I am doing my best to stay focused on it. I can only imagine what it would be like if I was not in this semi-cloistered environment that people like Bill and Ilie have so graciously created and maintain, and I look forward to when I get an invitation-only forum going. I hope to help that Level 12 choir form one day, but it is a long way off, it seems, which is great training for somebody with patience issues. :) History has never seen that choir, and it might be able to help get humanity over the hump. It seems like a worthwhile goal for me, and I am trying to do it in a way that I am not risking people’s lives. I already have enough blood on my hands, and have no desire to become a martyr.
My closest cyberpals I have generally known since the 1990s and met before early 2002, back when I was more active on the public front (with my email address on my site, and weren’t those interesting times :) ), and I have yet to even speak with any of them, much less meet them (actually, I have met some, but either because we watched UFOs together or had similar shared experiences, or they came to meet me after long years of correspondence). Few of them are Americans; my work is far too injurious to America-centric delusions:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm
I am going to be publishing an essay on energy and the human journey (this year I hope, but it will be challenging to accomplish), and it is intended for non-scientists to begin to understand the central role that energy plays, and has always played, in the human journey. It will be a comprehensive approach:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
When enough people can simply understand how the world really works, in a nuts-and-bolts way, then they may also come to appreciate what abundant clean energy can do to the human journey and life on Earth. If I can only help people to begin to understand that, that will plenty for me for this lifetime.
People who are looking for heroes to support, or ramparts to scale, or FE tinkering to do, are advised to look elsewhere besides this thread and its cousins. It is a big world, and I wish them the best in finding what they are looking for; it just isn’t here.
Enough said.
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
4th February 2012, 04:02
You are heard, indeed.
Dennis Leahy
4th February 2012, 04:34
Hi Wade, I look forward to your energy and the human journey essay. ("I am attempting to develop a public discussion to help abundance-based paradigms take root in human awareness. If you can help advance that discussion, you are invited (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#places) to assist. ")
In reading the writings of ancient Zen masters, it seems some of the most powerful "shaping" that can be done (in someone willing to be shaped), is to provide a mental construct that destroys an erroneous way of thinking, rather than directly presenting a roadmap to a new way of thinking. Just exactly how that might help you, I don't know, but it popped into my head and my fingers decided to type it out.
I can't guarantee I can break free from level 10 to 12, but I'll never try to BS you and say I have. In the meantime, I'm just glad you're here (here at Avalon, here on Earth), and I feel honored that you've opened up so much of yourself and your journey to share with me/us. You're a huge inspiration to me.
Dennis
David Hughes
4th February 2012, 06:49
Here's a video documentary about FE. It outlines the history of FE and interviews a few of the many FE inventors showing some of their working devices. There is also some discussion towards the end about what FE can mean to the world. Adds a bit of color to the topics previously covered in this thread.
It was released on VHS in 1997, and i see there's a DVD that was released in 2008. All the usual suspects are in there - Tom Bearden, John Hutchison, Joseph Newman, Troy Reed, Dennis Lee, Brian O' Leary, Eugene Mallove and a few others..........its a good accompaniment to the 'Thrive' movie:
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Here's the 'Thrive' movie for those who haven't seen it:
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eaglespirit
4th February 2012, 12:54
...just chiming in in accord with Wade's thoughts and feelings:
I firmly feel and believe the whole celebrity world of 'looking up to and over-venerating' is being 'uncreated' daily by the actions of each of Us doing what we are prompted to do in front of us on the 'working' turf of Mother Earth at the eye to eye levels of respect and of those of us marching to a different drummer and 'being' the change!
The music of Love and Abundance IS taking hold...and each of You singing that tune in real time are the catalysts!
Love! Love! Love!
Wade Frazier
4th February 2012, 16:30
Thanks all.
Hi Dennis:
Thanks for the advice. Most of my original site was written to cast the false idols off of their perches, such as American nationalism:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm
the Western Medical paradigm:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm
how the media deceives:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm
how the history we are taught is “bunk”:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more
and so on. I am not sure if that is what the Zen dudes were thinking of, but when I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, I realized that almost nothing that I was taught was true. I also realized that people were easy prey on the FE front if they harbored the delusions of their conditioning. So, my first impetus for doing my site was casting out the lies, half-truths and false assumptions that are so counterproductive for making something like FE happen. Although I was radicalized by my days with Dennis,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting
I was not consciously being comprehensive with my approach, because I did not know what being comprehensive meant. I remember while doing the research, writing and editing for my site, asking myself periodically in the back of my mind, “So, what do I think I am doing?” I meant it in the way of, “What do I think that I am going to accomplish with this website?” I am still not sure. :)
I have seen my work compared to Zen-ish stuff, where the first thing the students are taught is to unlearn what they think they know. I don’t know if that is an accurate comparison, but I was definitely doing my best to shake the foundations of certitude that people are indoctrination into, and as an American, I could write best about how it works in the USA. I came to discover that Americans are Earth’s most brainwashed people, and the ingenuity of the brainwashing is that the brainwashed deny that they are indoctrinated and controlled, but think that their nation invented the very idea of freedom. Pretty ironic stuff, but I was not aware of that angle when I began my research and writing. Early on, as I subscribed to Lies of Our Times:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot
discovered Ralph McGehee:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
Noam Chomsky:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky
Ralph Hovnanian:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm
and others like them, I began to see the depths that Americans were indoctrinated into. I read constantly for six years before I began to write my first site, and I spent several years, full-time, after that doing the research and writing that became my site today. But even when I finished my 2002 site, I did not really know that there was a word for what I was doing, which was being a comprehensivist. It was not until I was introduced to Bucky Fuller’s work by one of his pupils:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
that the light bulb really went on for me, as far as what I had been doing for all of those years. All of my essays after then have been more consciously comprehensive:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/new.htm
They have all been shorter essays. The way that I have seen it is that you can’t really see the FE and abundance picture while you are dragging around your scarcity-based baggage:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
and that took a long, long time to finally realize. And that was after the heartbreak of seeing more FE casualties:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet
and some that I had a hand in:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
and trading notes with people such as Brian O, after years of him playing the Paul Revere of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere
and other experiences. It took a long time for the picture to become clear, and why FE has never gained any traction in the world, even though the technology has been around for longer than I have been alive:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
eventually made sense to me. In the end, it is pretty simple. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
and the organized suppression and scarcity-based indoctrination, combined with humanity’s inertia, has so far proven to be an unbeatable combination.
I have been doing plenty of study in anthropology and related topics, and it turns out that the ideological indoctrination that Americans receive is merely a more sophisticated and subtle version of what has been served to all "civilized" people for all time. It just became a science in the USA and other English-speaking nations, for various historical and economic reasons.
On the FE front, people like Brian and I spent many years trying to interest environmentalists:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists
progressives:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm
and even the free software movement:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm
and in every single instance, nobody was home. Because of my longtime immersion in the mystical community, that was also someplace that I tried, and so have others, but it is another scarcity-dominated milieu, with virtually all the male “gurus” having New Age harems and the rest of that stuff:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical
and efforts such as The Secret became New Age bandwagons, to my dismay:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage
It was like what I eventually learned about inventors and other groups that I once looked up to: talent does not confer integrity, and integrity is the key to making FE and abundance happen. Everything else is secondary:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest
FE tinkerers are not going to do it, Indiana Jones types don’t have a prayer, business efforts are easily taken out, and so on. Dennis has proven especially difficult to kill, but it has taken its toll on how he goes about it anymore, which is partly why we eventually parted ways, although there is nobody in the field whom I respect more. He is by far the greatest human being that I ever encountered.
So, after taking that long and winding road, I eventually arrived at where I am today. My basic understanding really has not changed much since my days in Ventura. Without the radicalization that those days provided, I doubt that I would have much worth saying. I had to get all the indoctrination blown away with what I survived, to really look at the world with clear eyes. Any human who has not had some kind of experience that showed them the paths beyond their conditioning (Michael calls it the false personality http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) is going to have a very difficult time even imagining FE and abundance. People who populate places such as Avalon have often had some kinds of experiences beyond the New Agey stuff that opened their eyes to the lies, which is partly why I fish here :). But conspiracism is another pothole that swallows up countless aspirants:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
Naïveté and paranoia are related. Structuralism and conspiracism are two sides of the same coin: they both operate from the victim’s perspective, and both have their seductions. They both have partial grips on the truth, but the greatest truth is that we all have a hand in creating the reality that we live in. And I don’t just mean it in Seth’s beautiful way:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth
but also in the mundane way of how we live our lives each day. Everybody who lives in the industrialized world owns a piece of the American-inflicted genocides in Asia (with little buddies Britain, Australia and so on helping), as the West gains control of Middle East oil, including me:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility
Until we own it, we cannot change it.
Enough said.
Thanks Tyler. I find it hard to watch that stuff anymore, but others can find it educational. It hits a little too close to home for me. :) I walked out of In the Name of the Father:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_Father_(film)
blubbering like a baby. Soldiers who have seen combat don’t like watching war movies very much. Bless those people who spent their lives on the FE front. Many were benevolently intended, at least somewhat, but they played a rigged game, and if Godzilla lets one of them through, it will be because Godzilla deemed it expedient to do so, not directly related to any virtues that the aspirant possessed. In fact, if The Muppet Movie ending seems like it is about to happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related
people like me are going to be standing way back, with considerable skepticism that we are witnessing a genuine situation and not a contrived one.
I have a long and busy weekend ahead me, including spending time with somebody from my FE past who wants some of my time and energy. :)
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
4th February 2012, 17:43
Thanks all.
Hi Dennis:
Thanks for the advice. Actually, most of my original site was written to cast the false idols off of their perches, such as American nationalism:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm
the Western Medical paradigm:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm
how the media deceives:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm
how the history we are taught is “bunk”:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more
and so on. I am not sure if that is what the Zen dudes were thinking of, but when I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, I realized that almost nothing that I was taught was true. I also realized that people were easy prey on the FE front if they harbored the delusions of their conditioning. So, my first impetus for doing my site was casting out the lies, half-truths and false assumptions that are so counterproductive for making something like FE happen. Although I was radicalized by my days with Dennis,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting
I was not consciously being comprehensive in my approach, because I did not know what being comprehensive meant. I remember while doing the research, writing and editing for my site, asking myself periodically in the back of my mind, “So, what do I think I am doing?” I meant it in the way of, “What do I think that I am going to accomplish with this website?” I am still not sure. :)
I have seen my work compared to Zen-ish stuff, where the first thing the students are taught is to unlearn what they think they know. I don’t know if that is an accurate comparison, but I was definitely doing my best to shake the foundations of certitude that people are indoctrination into, and as an American, I could write best about how it works in the USA. I came to discover that Americans are Earth’s most brainwashed people, and the ingenuity of the brainwashing is that the brainwashed deny that they are indoctrinated and controlled, but think that their nation invented the very idea of freedom. Pretty ironic stuff, but I was not aware of that angle when I began my research and writing. Early on, as I subscribed to Lies of Our Times:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#loot
discovered Ralph McGehee:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
Noam Chomsky:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky
Ralph Hovnanian:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm
and others like them, I began to see the depths that Americans were indoctrinated into. I read constantly for six years before I began to write my first site, and I spent several years, full-time, after that doing the research and writing that became my site today. But even when I finished my 2002 site, I did not really know that there was a word for what I was doing, which was being a comprehensivist. It was not until I was introduced to Bucky Fuller’s work by one of his pupils:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
that the light bulb really went on for me, as far as what I had been doing for all of those years. All of my essays after then have been more consciously comprehensive:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/new.htm
They have all been shorter essays. The way that I have seen it is that you can’t really see the FE and abundance picture while you are dragging around your scarcity-based baggage:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
and that took a long, long time to finally realize. And that was after the heartbreak of seeing more FE casualties:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet
and some that I had a hand in:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
and trading notes with people such as Brian O, after years of him playing the Paul Revere of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere
and other experiences. It took a long time for the picture to become clear, and why FE has never gained any traction in the world, even though the technology has been around for longer than I have been alive:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
eventually made sense to me. In the end, it is pretty simple. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
and the organized suppression and scarcity-based indoctrination, combined with humanity’s inertia, has so far proven to be an unbeatable combination.
I have been doing plenty of study in anthropology and related topics, and it turns out that the ideological indoctrination that Americans receive is merely a more sophisticated and subtle version of what has been served to all "civilized" people for all time. It just became a science in the USA and other English-speaking nations, for various historical and economic reasons.
On the FE front, people like Brian and I spent many years trying to interest environmentalists:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists
progressives:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm
and even the free software movement:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm
and in every single instance, nobody was home. Because of my longtime immersion in the mystical community, that was also someplace that I tried, and so have others, but it is another scarcity-dominated milieu, with virtually all the male “gurus” having New Age harems and the rest of that stuff:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical
and efforts such as The Secret became New Age bandwagons, to my dismay:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage
It was like what I eventually learned about inventors and other groups that I once looked up to: talent does not confer integrity, and integrity is the key to making FE and abundance happen. Everything else is secondary:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest
FE tinkerers are not going to do it, Indiana Jones types don’t have a prayer, business efforts are easily taken out, and so on. Dennis has proven especially difficult to kill, but it has taken its toll on how he goes about it anymore, which is partly why we eventually parted ways, although there is nobody in the field whom I respect more. He is by far the greatest human being that I ever encountered.
So, after taking that long and winding road, I eventually arrived at where I am today. My basic understanding really has not changed much since my days in Ventura. Without the radicalization that those days provided, I doubt that I would have much worth saying. I had to get all the indoctrination blown away with what I survived, to really look at the world with clear eyes. Any human who has not had some kind of experience that showed them the paths beyond their conditioning (Michael calls it the false personality http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) is going to have a very difficult time even imagining FE and abundance. People who populate places such as Avalon have often had some kinds of experiences beyond the New Agey stuff that opened their eyes to the lies, which is partly why I fish here :). But conspiracism is another pothole that swallows up countless aspirants:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
Naïveté and paranoia are related. Structuralism and conspiracism are two sides of the same coin: they both operate from the victim’s perspective, and both have their seductions. They both have partial grips on the truth, but the greatest truth is that we all have a hand in creating the reality that we live in. And I don’t just mean it in Seth’s beautiful way:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth
but also in the mundane way of how we live our lives each day. Everybody who lives in the industrialized world owns a piece of the American-inflicted genocides in Asia (with little buddies Britain, Australia and so on helping), as the West gains control of Middle East oil, including me:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility
Until we own it, we cannot change it.
Enough said.
Thanks Tyler. I find it hard to watch that stuff anymore, but others can find it educational. It hits a little too close to home for me. :) I walked out of In the Name of the Father:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_Father_(film)
blubbering like a baby. Soldiers who have seen combat don’t like watching war movies very much. Bless those people who spent their lives on the FE front. Many were benevolently intended, at least somewhat, but they played a rigged game, and if Godzilla lets one of them through, it will be because Godzilla deemed it expedient to do so, not directly related to any virtues that the aspirant possessed. In fact, if The Muppet Movie ending seems like it is about to happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related
people like me are going to be standing way back, with considerable skepticism that we are witnessing a genuine situation and not a contrived one.
I have a long and busy weekend ahead me, including spending time with somebody from my FE past who wants some of my time and energy. :)
Best,
Wade
Wade, I was astounded last year when I found your site. I was long tired of the conspiracy sites (those small crumbs of truth connecting a dot here and there), and I found your essays riveting. I read them for weeks in my spare time, some twice and thrice. Being a glutton for information (many years ago my dad came back from a year in Vietnam working in "treaty administration" and told me to never believe in the official report regarding almost anything), I really appreciate the depth of research that has gone into your essays.
I was able to spend a year out of North America as a young adult, and it was like being on a different planet. Several different ones.
I experienced more of the Unlearning process when I decided to home school my child for a while, after a death threat was delivered at public school. The school admins wouldn't deal with it so we said goodbye to the system. Mixing with experienced home schooling parents was a real eye opener. My child decided to go back to school, and later was able to self-educate in a very technical field. My family stopped vaccinating many years ago and my child has never had one.
I used to get teased when I put the grey-looking nitrate free hot dogs on the table "mom, you're one of those they are going to put into the camps.."
My child called us on "the rich end of poor" and as a child does, felt left out of a lot of stuff his affluent friends were doing/having. I would say let's turn on the international news and see what the 12 year olds are doing in the Congo today...mining diamonds?" I still am on the rich end of poor for a North American but I feel like I'm in the lap of luxury whenever I turn on the tap and hot water comes out. I take a moment every day to throw out a vision of every single person having that, and much more. I borrow the visions posted on PA, I mix and match them and throw in my own stuff.
I rarely feel like I have anything to add, and I squirm while talking about myself. I have said anything possibly relevant to who I am and why I'm here, so whew don't have to do that again...
I appreciate your, and everyone's inspiration I receive from reading here almost every day. Regards all.
Dennis Leahy
4th February 2012, 18:33
Wade, I have thanked the post above without (yet) taking the time to read, (or in most cases re-read) all of the sections from your site that you refer out to. It's amazing that you can keep track of where all the info is, so you can link to it. :~) I'll go through it more slowly, taking the time to absorb the essay segments as part of your reply.
I think I may have been self-reflecting just why I have not yet been able to discard the Level 10 mentality, and join the Level 12 chorus full-time (rather than touch my toe in that water - if I have actually ever even done that.) Maybe it is your inadvertent Zen Master protocol and style that attracted me to your writings in the first place.
Yes, I can see that you have indeed disrobed many an emperor, you have lifted many veils, and you have torn through many curtains in your writings. But, I'm still not convinced that The Global rulers give a rat's ass if 20 or 2000 or 20 million people can visualize abundance and fully see the scarcity paradigm for what it is: a greed-driven work of fiction. If them caring or not caring is not the point, but rather the synergistic effect of a metaphysical chorus of abundance-visualizers, well... I'm still quite stumbling around with what it actually takes for a group of beings to unite and cause/create/catalyze physical outcomes from metaphysical output. I'm open to it, I have started one and joined a few efforts along those lines, but I feel like an infant that wants to do an Olympic gymnast's tumbling run rather than just walk.
Undoubtedly, I am missing the point, but only by putting all of my cards on the table, being as honest as possible, and letting you know what my difficulties are will I be giving you the insight needed to help me break through.
Enjoy your time with your friend, and maybe we can revisit this in the next week or two.
Thanks!
Dennis
Wade Frazier
5th February 2012, 00:57
Hi Dennis:
I am very sympathetic to skepticism directed toward the Level 12 approach, because it has never been tried before. :)
On the Level 10 approach, I have been involved with several Level 10 FE efforts. Dennis tried the capitalist, religionist, and nationalist avenues, sometimes separately, but sometimes they were combinations of all three. I helped rebuild the efforts three times, and sprung him from jail another time, and did not help him rebuilt after springing him that time. I was spitting out my teeth for several years after that one. Mr. Professor did, however, and it ended up costing him his life:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
Dennis also tried the non-profit approach, but that was always a non-starter. NEM was another non-profit effort that I helped get off the ground with Brian O, but it never really had a prayer, and it was an eye-opener to me on a few levels. That was the last Level 10 FE project that I was involved with. I have also been in several peace marches, and actually marched with the former Washington governor in a huge peace march to forgive third-world debt on the eve of the infamous WTO meeting in Seattle in 1999.
I don’t have the time today to write about it, but I will put it on my list of things to do, to write about the Level 10 approach with FE. All the "mass movement" efforts I have seen were based around some scarcity-based ideology, or attacking them, like the Occupy Movement is doing, beginning on Wall Street. I get the sentiment, but “protesting” automatically puts the protestor in a polarized position, usually against the “powerful,” and the protestors are always easily scattered and distracted by the circus, and they are playing the vicitm game, with their complaint-based approach. They don’t think comprehensively, and every movement like that that I have seen is hacking at branches and is oblivious to the root. That will be a big post, on the Level 10 approaches that I have been involved with and witnessed.
Hi CdnSirian:
Call me surprised to find out that you are female. There are not nearly enough women involved in the FE-related activities, and that is part of the problem. Please keep your awareness in the game; it is needed.
Running off to find a place to live…
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
5th February 2012, 02:19
That's funny Wade, if you'd called yourself USSirian/Pleiadian/Orian/Terran/Whatever, I may have not concluded that you were male. Hey we're just humble humans - eh? Highest regards.
Dennis Leahy
5th February 2012, 02:21
Hi Wade, to be honest, I have a relatively easy time understanding how you feel the level 10 approach won't work - after all you've been through; may I ask for a bigger dose of your feelings/thoughts on why (and the specific mechanism for) a Level 12 approach feels like it could work. Perhaps compare and contrast your Level 12 idea with the metaphysical manifestation of what we want concept in "The Secret."
OK, seriously, I don't want to drag you back to your keyboard when you have things you need to do. Let's talk later. :~)
Dennis
CdnSirian
5th February 2012, 02:25
Dennis, I don't think you're missing any point. I think you really get it. You are honest about where you're at with this, and I appreciate that.
Dennis Leahy
5th February 2012, 02:48
A postscript to my previous post:
p.s. Looking at the wording on your chart for a Level 10 and a level 12 (and seeing that a Level 11 is not somewhere between them), I guess my concept of a "stampede" would also be that it has never been tried. Each of the examples seems more like a rogue calf hunted down by the cowboys (to stick with the stampede analogy), and what feels like it could work is a blend of "stampede" (a large number of people) and a chorus (the people stampeding KNOW about FE and have a dream of abundance, if not a vision.)
So, perhaps I'm seeing a split between Level 10 approaches:
Level 10a: Lone wolf solo stampede (like Dennis Lee tried)
Level 10b: large herd stampede
(Perhaps what Dennis Lee tried was not truly "solo" - more like a wolf pack - but nowhere near the stampede threshold.)
So this Level 10b stampede concept would be a large, threshold number of people that know about FE and are very vocal about it, that they may not be advanced enough to truly visualize abundance, but are damn sure they are sick of scarcity and can at least see a hint of a dream of what abundance might be like. A stampede of a herd so vocal that it can no longer be seen as a hidden concept in the mainstream (even if the ZP FE technology is hidden.) It seems like, if this did not shake loose existing, hidden FE technology, it would at least make it MUCH more difficult for Godzilla to squash new people re-inventing the same technology (or if not the true Zero Point holy grail FE technology, at least things like the super efficient heat pump and the super efficient car engine would be more difficult to squash.)
Dennis
CdnSirian
5th February 2012, 02:57
A postscript to my previous post:
p.s. Looking at the wording on your chart for a Level 10 and a level 12 (and seeing that a Level 11 is not somewhere between them), I guess my concept of a "stampede" would also be that it has never been tried. Each of the examples seems more like a rogue calf hunted down by the cowboys (to stick with the stampede analogy), and what feels like it could work is a blend of "stampede" (a large number of people) and a chorus (the people stampeding KNOW about FE and have a dream of abundance, if not a vision.)
So, perhaps I'm seeing a split between Level 10 approaches:
Level 10a: Lone wolf solo stampede (like Dennis Lee tried)
Level 10b: large herd stampede
(Perhaps what Dennis Lee tried was not truly "solo" - more like a wolf pack - but nowhere near the stampede threshold.)
So this Level 10b stampede concept would be a large, threshold number of people that know about FE and are very vocal about it, that they may not be advanced enough to truly visualize abundance, but are damn sure they are sick of scarcity and can at least see a hint of a dream of what abundance might be like. A stampede of a herd so vocal that it can no longer be seen as a hidden concept in the mainstream (even if the ZP FE technology is hidden.) It seems like, if this did not shake loose existing, hidden FE technology, it would at least make it MUCH more difficult for Godzilla to squash new people re-inventing the same technology (or if not the true Zero Point holy grail FE technology, at least things like the super efficient heat pump and the super efficient car engine would be more difficult to squash.)
Dennis
"Oh give me a home where the Buffalo roam
And the sky was not cloudy all day...."
The early cowboys were so innocent/so involved in herding and delivering to slaughter.
We must endure the schizophrenia of informed innocence - being so brazen as to follow this path.
Wade Frazier
5th February 2012, 04:30
Hi Dennis and CdnSirian:
This is good stuff that you bring up. You are spurring me to get ahead of the post that I would like to make, but here is the very short version. Dennis tried to lead armies, several times, as have others. Dennis did it in Seattle (employees and customers), he did it in Ventura (there were several hundred people who bought our materials and joined our network), and his biggest splash so far was his 1996 tours of the USA. He also tried it with “Patriots” and Christians. In 1996, he played to probably something like 20,000 people across the USA, and that was before he put 5,000 people into the sports stadium in Philly where the 76-ers play basketball. He did hundreds of radio shows in the early 1990s, and has had several national TV shows devoted to him (none flattering, of course). Millions of people are somewhat familiar with him. He is definitely the highest-profile FE activist ever, and that has not been a fun thing.
If you ever get the “official” footage of the Philly show, you can see me in the front row, with a beard and striped shirt. After that show was over, Dennis called for a brief meeting in a corner of the stadium’s floor, and it was close to a literal stampede of several hundred people to get close to him. That was something to witness. Of course, a “skeptic” began his career the same night:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends
and it turns out that we were being targeted by an extremely sophisticated sting operation:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker
and other fun. They were coming at us from all sides, our “allies” kept trying to steal it, and so on. Some of this is duplicative of my recent Dennis posts:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=412560&viewfull=1#post412560
Once I realized how close I came to going to prison from that one, this coward decided to try for the quiet life from here on out. Believe me, the Level 10 mass stampede has been tried. In Boston, with our Greatest Energy Shows on Earth:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum
our dream was inciting a stampede. We got Godzilla’s attention, with the first friendly buyout offer:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten
and other attention from high places, but as far as the masses went, what happened in Boston kind of reminded me of John Belushi in Animal House,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE&feature=fvwrel
his first attempt to lead the charge, not after he came back. :)
A guy named Joe Firmage tried to stir things up, in a Level 10 way, back in the 1990s, including the FE game, and I heard from some of his team afterward. Several provocateurs infiltrated, the inside/outside job went down, and before long it was game over.
The people who infiltrate organizations like Dennis’s are good at what they do. They operate at a different level than the COINTELPRO types.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas
Again, Godzilla strangles anything in its cradle that can pose a threat, and FE is the biggest threat of all, bar none. Nobody has walked up to the tents at the Occupy Movement and offered them a billion dollars to call off their protest, or one million, or even bribed them with free beer, I would wager. All those “protestors” have a long, long way to go before they amount to any kind of threat to Godzilla. As Brian O said, combined positive intention is the key, not complaint-based protest.
And I have yet to find a lefty that really thought comprehensively. The rad left, for all of the brilliant insights that I have seen come from that camp over the years, is blinkered in several respects. Energy runs the world, but stuff like Parecon does not even address the energy situation.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#parecon
They dismiss organized suppression as a “conspiracy theory,” they say that FE would violate the “laws of physics,” and one of the most common responses of the “learned” to FE, if they don’t outright deny it, is that it would be the worst thing for humanity ever (I just cited Levels 3 and 5 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3):
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation
So, trying to get a stampede going has proven well-nigh impossible, because virtually nobody even sees the ball, much less keeps their eye on it. The only FE “herd” that I have seen was there for self-interest. And because the global shepherd has a finely-honed ability to manipulate the herd with vastly more resources than somebody like Dennis does, you can’t rely to pre-sentient herd behaviors, because before you know it, the stampede runs you over, and I have watched Dennis get trampled more than once.
Until enough people understand that energy runs the world and always has, that TPTB know how transformative FE would be and have devoted prodigious resources to keeping the lid on FE and related disruptive technologies, and can keep their eye on the ball, no FE effort will gain any traction, because Godzilla finds the efforts easy to defeat with bread, circuses, provocateurs, and other subtle means, and when that fails, then he starts to play rough. Heck, the aspirants do most of Godzilla’s work for him. The last time I talked with Dennis, he agreed that his efforts have been hurt more by his “allies” than by the Big Boys. Dennis does not want to play the Lone Ranger or Indiana Jones, but he can’t find many to go with him, so he ends up out there alone, facing Godzilla with his pea shooter. I rescued him a few times from that battlefield, and burned my life up doing it. When I talked to him recently, I said that I called him the Indiana Jones of FE, and he said that he liked the image, but he needed a hat and whip. :)
I have to go play husband now. Maybe I’ll write a little more on this tomorrow.
Best,
Wade
sandy
5th February 2012, 06:09
Hi Dennis,
Just have to say that when Wade states that the masses will move when FE comes to their door in a box is where it is at.
People have known for years about inventions that would make a real difference in the world, ie cancer cures, all kinds of energy devices to save the environment from carbon emissions, money saving technology, technology that would change the world entirely from a scarcity based survival mode to one of independence and abundance.
Independence means a "Real" shift away from Mommy/Daddy mentality and having someone else tell you what and how you should be and think>>>>>>>>>>>>>this kind of freedom is so frightening that IMO the unconscious and/or Ego will fight like hell to keep from losing the one and only identity one has related to most of, if not all of their life.
The only mass stampede I predict IMHO, is when FE becomes a reality and the many will be stampeding to mental health workers for help in dealing with all the resulting changes spontaneously occurring. Even very positive events can be very uncomfortable and so foreign that people will fight like hell to push them away, destroy them, deny them, avoid them, etc in order to maintain what is their sense comfort.
The conundrum then being we as a civilization have become too comfortable with the scarcity paradigm just as long as we can whine and cry about how awful it is. Until we take individual responsibility and stop being victims there will be no on mass changes. Unity in non-compliance around the world would work, however that is another pipe dream I don't see coming down the tube anytime to soon.
Hey Wade, what do you mean>>>>>looking for a place to live? Sure hope that wasn't literal unless it is your choice :)
Ilie Pandia
5th February 2012, 12:46
Hello,
Another issue with a level 10 stampede is that it targets the lowest denominator. Yes you could get a crowd, even perhaps a huge crowd, but most of them are people that are not aware of the problem, of their conditioning and then there's that thing called personal integrity that Wade keeps reminding us of. Such a stampede can easily be infiltrated and re-targeted or used to just shuffle the power "above" with no visible effect "down below". Such a crowd lacks focus, lacks awareness of the issue and of their own scarcity upbringing. They are pretty much ruled by the herd mentality, while (if I got this right) the lambs in Wade's chorus are highly aware people, with deep understanding of the problem, their focus cannot be blurred, and they also have at least some basic scientific understanding of how things work so they don't get fooled by any airy fairy non-sense.
Dennis, you took the time to think about and write the "Reset Button" document. How many people do you think read it? And of those who read it how may understood it? And how many gave it a second thought? Yes, is nice to believe that the vast majority of humans are like yourself and they would jump in support given the opportunity, but that is not the case... just look at Avalon. We have around 2,000 active members. That is not even a huge crowd. And we still have bickering on the forum and in fighting, and if you look at the forum index in some days it looks like a tabloid (I am sorry to say). How can such a group have focused initiative when we are still have trouble being respectful to one another?
The slogan and focus of a level 10 crowd can be swayed in seconds with the proper propaganda... and most of the people in such a crowd have the "what's in it for me" mentality. This is why most revolutions are not really revolutions... they are just a big un-aware crowd used by someone else to change somebody in power.
ulli
5th February 2012, 13:02
There is no doubt in my mind that FE will come.
Something greater than any of us can imagine is using Godzilla
to herd the whole show towards that point.
If it weren't for Godzilla there would be no infrastructure and logistics in place when the time comes.
Years ago, when I was still getting all my inspiration from the Bible, I read something which struck my inner light switch.
It went like 'and God said to Moses..I made Pharaoh, too.'
Integrity comes be reconciling opposites, that's the way integration works.
The art is in discovering which opposites to focus on to find the midpoint.
One needs to sweep one's vision over the long term perspective...
the real mystery is time itself.
Seikou-Kishi
5th February 2012, 13:11
There is no doubt in my mind that FE will come.
Something greater than any of us can imagine is using Godzilla
to herd the whole show towards that point.
If it weren't for Godzilla there would be no infrastructure and logistics in place when the time comes.
Years ago, when I was still getting all my inspiration from the Bible, I read something which struck my inner light switch.
It went like 'and God said to Moses..I made Pharaoh, too.'
Integrity comes be reconciling opposites, that's the way integration works.
The art is in discovering which opposites to focus on to find the midpoint.
One needs to sweep one's vision over the long term perspective...
the real mystery is time itself.
Superlative post, Ulli!
Wade Frazier
5th February 2012, 16:16
Great posts, people:
A brief aside to Ulli… When I spoke with Dennis recently, he said that the Big Boys think that they have it about all sown up, as far as their eternal domination of the planet goes, but what they are building is going to be used by somebody else. :) That is a Christian’s view. I am not a Christian, but I’ll buy the idea that there is something bigger happening than Godzilla suspects. Nobody really sees the big picture down here on Earth. We are trapped by time, space, our highly limited physical senses, and these jelly-bag bodies. They are the price of admission and make this game possible, but part of the price of admission is also forgetting who we are and why we came, which is the cruel part of the deal, although I keep hearing that it is for our own good, but nobody who says that lives here. :)
Yes, Ilie, you understand what I am thinking of, Level 12-wise. They will be sentient lambs, not lambs operating from their herd instincts. Martin Luther King, Jr. said that he would rather march with one person who understood what they were doing than a hundred who didn’t.
Hi Sandy:
This FE stuff is a conundrum like no other that I ever heard of. The means to turn Earth into Paradise, where humans can live abundantly without harming Earth at all, and even working symbiotically with Earth and her denizens, has been here for a long time. But the people running humanity are addicted to what they think of as power, and they play their evil games. However, they are members of our species, with perhaps some of their “advisors” being non-human or non-physical. This is primarily a human issue.
When you begin to play the FE game, get clobbered repeatedly, and see what the potential is and how brain-dead and heart-dead your fellow humans are, it can make you want to stay drunk for the rest of your life. But, you and I are humans, so we know it is possible for people to wake up and humanity can begin to head in that heavenly direction. If I can’t glimpse this world in this lifetime:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
or at least see that we are heading in that direction, I will be putting in my application for that duty if I have to come here again, and if my soul has different ideas, I may have to fire my soul. :)
As I have written repeatedly, the vast majority of people have settled for carving out their niche of hell and surviving in it, and they seek comfort and a temporary satiation of their addictions above all else, and do not want to be bothered. Most of the USA consists of Orwell’s proles, who have eaten themselves fat with corporate comfort food, drunkenly fall asleep in front of the tube, and shuffle off to another day working for The Man. Whenever one wins the lottery, he/she pisses it away in a few years. The USA is full of celebrities who pissed it all away, whether they were in athletics, acting, or music. I can’t speak for other nations, but when I interact with my international cyberpals, none of them say that the awake people live in their country.
But, I want to sketch for Dennis how I see that the Level 12 choir can form and what it may be able to accomplish. I don’t want to get too specific on how it has to be, because it could go in a lot of ways. This is a No-Dogma Zone. :) What I intended it for, however, is to form a heart-centered nugget of sentience that can provide the ballast needed to get us moving in the right direction. I don’t expect it to awaken everybody’s neighbors. What I think it can do is provide that nugget that can “accrete” more people who are waking up, or who are awakened but do not see anything happening that can make a dent. Right now, FE sounds like the craziest thing to almost everybody who hears it. Virtually the entire planet is in levels zero to three:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0
Actually, there is a sizeable fraction in Level 4, where if somebody delivered an FE machine to their house, they would welcome it. They don’t violently react to the FE idea like so many others do. It is similar today to most people thinking that if ETs showed up tomorrow, it would be cool. Whether that is a result of the acculturation programs that we have heard of for decades, where TPTB wanted to get humanity used to the idea of ETs through the media before the curtain parted, I do not know. It could be. Maybe there is a similar plan for FE, but I have not seen it yet.
Also, those Level 4s are no help, but at least they don’t have violent reactions to the idea of FE. And, from what I have seen, that is because most Level 4s really don’t see the big picture. All they want is no energy bills and the ability to live way out in the boonies and be self-sufficient. Nice dream, perhaps, but it isn’t going to work that way, for several reasons, which I don’t have the time to discuss today.
On moving, Sandy, my wife wants to live closer to her office, so we are moving closer to Bellevue. I have written about running into Bill Gates at the movie theater:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates
Yesterday, as we were looking for places, one was near where we looked a few years ago, in Medina, which is the Beverly Hills of Seattle. I could walk to work from Medina if I wanted to. The house we considered yesterday was literally neighbors with Gates (it was a little less ostentatious than his place :) ). All of us who live and work on the east side of Seattle live in the Bill Gates Bubble (my company was founded by an ex-Microsoft programmer), but I don’t want Bill as a neighbor, for a few reasons. When Gates began writing about the energy situation a couple of years ago, and now is partnering with China to build “safe” nuclear reactors ( :) ), Brian O wanted to get Gates’s attention, and wanted to enlist my help to make it happen. I begged off. I would not talk with Gates if he wanted to. It would imperil both him and me. Gates is way down the food chain of power on Earth. In my interview with Scott, I said that Gates was not in the “club” (nine minutes into this clip):
http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#p/c/BACC03E294B890CD/3/cx4v9Wx7qlY
In Scott’s interview with Adam, Adam said almost the same thing.
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?6577-Adam-Trombly-Thrive-Movie-Starchild-Program-Zero-Point-Energy-Part-1&p=42924#post42924
I talked with somebody not along ago about retail elites like Gates, and the Big Time elites that you have never heard of. The sitting U.S. president is nobody at those levels. The smarter ones realized that they were down the food chain a ways, but their role is to act like Earth’s most powerful person, to keep the puppet show going:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents
One likened it to if the real global elites had a feast in a huge banquet room, where the patriarch sat at the head of the table with his family, and the many relatives sat in their ranks down the great hall, Gates would not even get a seat at the children’s table. :)
Anyway, I would like to write a post or two on what I learned with Level 10 efforts, and how I see a Level 12 effort being different. A Level 12 effort has never been seen before, so I think that I owe Dennis and others what my conception of what Level 12 looks like, in some detail. Ilie gets the gist of it, and Ilie gets why Level 10 efforts are easily-defeated these days. Let me just say this: a Level 12 effort will not have any slogans, logos, or celebrities, and it won’t be “protesting.” Some voices will be more prominent than others, but only because they are hitting the notes, and the goal is for everybody to begin hitting the notes, whether there is a choir leader or not, but a choir will make it easier. It can also create harmonic effects, so the notes will be easier to pick up. They will be sentient, loving notes, and they won’t be singing the song of the bad ol’ elites (there might be a stanza in a minor key that acknowledges them, but no songs devoted to them), but what kind of world we can create, if we want to.
Gotta get to work.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
6th February 2012, 16:49
Hi:
The next series of posts will be on the Level 10 and Level 12 distinction, at least on the Wade Scale. :)
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart
There have been many mass movements in history, so Level 10 is not a novel approach to take for making FE happen. I was involved with several Level 10 efforts with Dennis, and one with Brian O.
Also, Dennis was involved with Level 10 approaches to his efforts long before we met, but the FE Level 10 approaches that he tried were all after I met him, because he did not think in terms of FE until we were in Boston:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing
But, what I heard about his earlier efforts had a familiar ring when we started mounting FE Level 10 efforts.
The day I met Dennis, he spoke in front of several hundred people, and several camera crews, where he announced project WPPEE, which was intended to compete with the electric companies to make electricity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#hired
Dennis got a standing ovation when this speech was over. Many in the crowd were his employees, customers and their families, so you might say that they all had a vested interest. :)
Only one of those camera crews aired their coverage, and it was a Canadian news organization. It was the only positive TV coverage that I ever saw on Dennis. The other camera crews were for the local TV stations, and none of them aired anything about that event, but a couple of weeks later one local station did a hack piece on the company, where they lied about Dennis’s heat pump being eligible for the tax credit:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#conserve
It always qualified, and Dennis was even appointed to a federal subcommittee to write some performance requirements for energy-saving equipment, because there were no requirements. That was just one of many deathblows aimed at the Seattle company, and when the company’s carcass was finally stolen in a theft engineered by my boss:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#theft
many of the same people I saw give Dennis a standing ovation on the day he hired me were cheering as his company was stolen:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1
That was a big moment for me in my awakening. The cheering throngs were loyal to their self-interest above all else. What both cheers had in common was that they were cheering their self-interest, not Dennis or the thieves. They would cheer whoever could feed them.
When we got going in Boston, along with our corporate efforts, we started a non-profit named “We the People,” which dovetailed with Dennis’s venue for our first Greatest Energy Show on Earth:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum
where the Boston Tea Party was planned. But We the People was pretty much a non-starter. The action was around the capitalist effort, not a non-profit effort. When you begin talking about a quadrillion dollar technology,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion
everybody wants a piece of that action. But in Boston, we reached out to who we thought would be natural allies in our FE quest: the local groups that led the protests of the Seabrook nuclear reactor. The Seabrook reactor was built on the coast in New Hampshire (power plants always have to be built near bodies of water, for cooling purposes), but was only a few miles from the Massachusetts border. We only moved to Boston because one of Dennis’s Seattle salesmen got his family involved in the business (which bankrupted them, but they fought Dennis the whole way, and were their own worst enemies, which is typical), but we had unwittingly landed in the midst of a huge energy controversy.
The federal laws around nukes called for every political jurisdiction within ten miles of the reactor to approve the evacuation plan in case of an emergency (Chernobyl happened less than a year previously), and the governor of Massachusetts, Michael Dukakis, turned the Seabrook situation into a huge political football. He ran for president the next year, barely losing to George Bush the First:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dukakis#1988_presidential_candidate
and stance on Seabrook was part of his political strategy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seabrook_Station_Nuclear_Power_Plant#Public_opposition
If Massachusetts did not approve the Seabrook evacuation plan, then Seabrook could not go online. Just as we were mounting our first Greatest Energy Shows on Earth, the first Astroturf organization that I ever saw hit the airwaves in Boston:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#coalition
as the Seabrook Association ran an ad blitz in the spring of 1987, to brainwash Bostonians into supporting the evacuation plan. It was about as Orwellian as it got. In Massachusetts, protesting the Seabrook plant was considered heroic, up there with the Tea Party. When I hit Boston, a young man worked for Dennis in marketing, and he said that in high school, their school would plan a protest, go up to Seabrook, chain themselves to the Seabrook front gates, get arrested, and when they finally got home to Boston, the school would hold an assembly to honor those who got arrested. Has anybody seen something like that in the USA lately? :)
We took advantage of the situation, and eventually held one of our Greatest Energy Shows on Earth a quarter-mile from the Seabrook front gates. Our message was making nukes obsolete with FE, and Dennis proposed to buy the Seabrook reactor, never put uranium in it, and use it for heat storage. We were operating in a hole-in-the-wall office at the time, but within an hour after receiving Dennis’s proposal, the Seabrook Chairman of the Board called our offices, to meet with us. He said that he could be at our offices within an hour. That was a very different reaction than Dennis got in Seattle, I can tell you. By that time, Dennis was gathering a lot of interest. A local newspaper covered some of our shows, and gave positive coverage, but it was the only local media positive coverage that I ever saw Dennis receive. The reporter asked if he could come work for us.
I got to meet a billionaire who came to our offices to discuss business, and we got our first friendly buyout offer at about the same time:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten
We also heard from the inside that all the New England electric companies held secret meetings to decide what to do about us. The Boston Globe never covered us:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#blackout
and instead ran an article about mining the moon to solve our energy problems.
A lot was happening in those days, with U.S. senators poking their nose into it, and the Massachusetts government began sharpening its ax for us, like we saw in Seattle. But the purpose of this little vignette is to discuss the local “grass roots” organization that led the Seabrook protests. When we began stirring things up, we got their attention, which was the only time that I know of that FE attracted the positive attention of an environmental group. Maybe that was because we were the first FE advocates that they had ever been seen, stirring things up. Dennis and I met with one of the organization’s key players. He was trying to be helpful, but what came across was they were really anti-nuclear, not alternative energy so much. The guy even cautioned us about one of their leading names. The guy lived for chaining himself to the front gates, and was not interested in solutions that could make nukes obsolete. The brass from that organization attended some of our shows, but one day, one of the high-ranking officials of the organization had a frank conversation with Dennis. I don’t know if he was trying to sober Dennis up or what, but he said that the person who bankrolled that protest group owned a bunch of land in New Hampshire. He was bankrolling the protestors because his “solution” to the Seabrook reactor was to shut it down, build a dam for a hydroelectric project, and the guy just happened to own the land that would be drowned by the lake that would form behind the dam, and he would make a killing. Dennis got that straight from the horse’s mouth. When I heard that, I thought about how all those anti-nuclear protestors were being used in a financial play, being cannon fodder for a rich man’s ploy. That was a sobering moment for me.
It turned out that that was the closest that I have ever seen an environmentalist organization come to supporting FE, but it wasn’t much support, and we were going to wreck that rich guy’s ploy if we were successful. Many years later, as I palled around with Brian O and his buddies, I heard familiar stories of FE activists trying to get environmentalists involved with FE efforts. Our experience in Boston was apparently the best it ever got with environmentalist organizations. The rest slammed their doors in the faces of the FE activists. Gary Vesperman said that he began trying to get environmentalist organizations interested in FE back in the 1970s, but they all slammed the door. They are ideologically opposed to the idea of FE, and all of their “solutions” are based on shared austerity and other small-ball “solutions” like windmills and direct solar.
Long ago and with great sadness, I came to realize that environmentalist organizations were not going to support FE, and actually considered it to be the enemy, believe it or not:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists
I have to go run off to a long workweek, but I will make a few Level 10 posts here, to show what I learned about them. The Seattle and Boston experiences were my early ones, and was only a warm-up for the big lessons that I was about to learn.
Best,
Wade
sandy
6th February 2012, 16:50
Hi Everyone,
I thought this was beautiful and so touching that I'm going to try and post it although I'm not sure on what to do, but here goes
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sandy
6th February 2012, 20:44
Thanks a bunch to who ever fixed my last post for me :) Big Hug!!
Ahaa I just saw where it was you Ilie................................sweet of you to save me from the embarrassment of my computer ineptness as I sit here chuckling ........................ not even a hint of two tries to make that video above into a reality on this thread>>>>>>>>>>Your the Man !!
Wade Frazier
7th February 2012, 06:37
Hi Sandy:
Nice images, but I would have preferred John’s singing. :)
OK, on to more Level 10 stuff. When we left Boston for Ventura, I was the reason we did it, but it also was not my choice. I did not want to move to California, but there I was. That is a long story that I cannot publicly tell these days, and don’t know when I will be able to, but I was more central to the events than my site lets on.
I lived with Dennis and his family for about a year altogether, and Dennis’s family ended up living with Mr. Professor for two years or so. I still look back and find it hard at times to believe that it all happened, but it was all too real.
My days in Boston are my favorite memories with Dennis. For all that was happening, it was an innocent time for me. And Dennis I talked late into the night during that winter in Boston, and I got to hear his incredible life’s story. To Dennis, it was not so incredible, but just what you live through when you try to make the world a better place. If they ever made a movie of his life, it would make Indiana Jones look like Walter Mitty. I heard in those days about his earlier attempts to play the Level 10 game. His card that united the consumer, where he became Pat Robertson’s partner for a brief time, was one of those efforts, and there were others. In the end, there was never really unity of purpose in the efforts; everybody was trying to “get theirs.” As Dennis got screwed a zillion times, usually by his “allies,” the most common “apology” that he got was, “It is nothing personal, it is only business.” If America has a motto, it is that. If America ever apologized to Iraq, it would be along those lines.
When we hit Ventura in late June 1987, Dennis tried to stir things up like he did in Boston, running ads for salespeople, putting on Greatest Energy Shows on Earth, and so on. We started going in July in Ventura, and Dennis tried something a little different. We ran ads in USA Today, modestly titled, “Free Electricity!” We said that we would sell educational material on how to sell, build and install our heat pump, and we were also working on making free electricity by marrying that heat pump with heat engines. The next thing we knew, people were sending us checks from all over the USA to buy the materials. We were also building a network to get the purchasing power to try to create the industry around that heat pump that Dennis had dreamed of for so long.
In late August, as the checks began rolling in, Dennis told his wife and me that he found the next rocket ship. His wife and I were skeptical. All I had seen was bloody ruin so far, and I did not see what the master saw; he was right. It took off like a rocket. We went from a handful of volunteers to about forty employees in two months. I missed the big fireworks in Seattle, but got the see the trajectory in Ventura. It was like trying to hang onto a rope tied to a rocket taking off. Mr. Mentor came aboard with his engine:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse
Victor Fischer came aboard a few months later:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#fischer
and we were flying high. In December 1987, standing late one night in the parking lot between the two buildings that we occupied, Dennis said that the Big Boys’ eyes had to be bugging out, seeing what we had going. That was also when we would get strange calls in the night, telling us to keep up the good work (the white hats http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white ). We found out that the U.S. Attorney General knew Dennis by name, and he called Dennis “squeaky clean”:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#squeaky
Several years later, we discovered that the sitting president knew Dennis by name:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull
but was far less flattering. :)
It looked like if they did not stop us soon, they would not be able to. That may have been a naïve notion, but it looked like they believed it too, because the sledgehammer then came down, but not before Dennis was offered a billion dollars to go away:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
When the sledgehammer came down, I was already barely hanging in there, with my stress symptoms coming back in full blossom. Another apparent provocateur infiltrated, and he was slick:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas
I mentioned in an earlier post that guy, Mr. Stooge, who told me about how the bad guys slept fine at night:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=414784&viewfull=1#post414784
Right when the sledgehammer was coming down, I got a standing ovation from hundreds of people that Mr. Stooge led. He wanted to replace me as Dennis’s protégé. A few months later, he was helping Mr. Texas steal the company when Dennis was in jail:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#trio
Standing ovations, as far as I have seen, are about buttering up people’s egos. It costs nothing to give a standing ovation, and can allow people to get close enough to sink their daggers in good and deep.
The behaviors that I saw in Ventura made the Seattle experience pale by comparison:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#steal1
Before 1988 was finished, I was radicalized, with my life in tatters. Going bankrupt was the easy part. At the peak, several hundred people were directly involved, and I mean involved as in trying to get businesses off the ground and putting up their life’s savings. When they nuked us, Dennis was ground zero, but the fallout went far and wide. I still hear about people whose lives were wrecked by what happened in Ventura. But most importantly, from a Level 10 perspective, was that almost nobody had the right stuff to be playing the game that Dennis was trying to start, and that was our folly. Again, activities such as the Occupy Movement, the environmentalists, the so-called alternative energy activists, peace marchers, and so on, do not get Godzilla’s attention in the slightest. None of those people are really laying it on the line. Getting your head busted by a cop may feel heroic, but it is absolutely worthless for playing the game with Godzilla. Godzilla is playing a much more sophisticated game. Oh, he wrecks lives and such, and enjoys it, but that treatment is reserved for those who threaten to make an economic impact in a disruptive way, and nothing is potentially more disruptive than FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph
It is an entirely different game than “activists” can imagine, and is one reason why a Level 10 FE approach not only won’t work, it can turn into a catastrophe. Been there, done that. I began my journey naively, but learned my lessons honestly and the hard way. Very few people can play that game for long. I watched “tough guys” crumble in seconds on that playing field. It is not suitable for the usual “activist” tactics, although I have watched people try for a long time. My first public interview was four years ago, and was set up by Brian O’s contacts:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm
and specifically by Keith Lampe, a hippie who has been writing about FE and protest activism for a long time. I get an email from him every day. Today’s was about how Alex Jones refuses to embrace FE. Surprise! :) All of those public figures are dead ends, but I keep seeing people beat their heads against those walls, chasing after money, recognition, pressing the flesh, and so on. Again, such Level 10 efforts all have some scarcity-based ideology in common:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
that they yoke their wagons to. You can’t get there that way, because what brings you together is fear, not love. The problem with all Level 10 approaches that I have seen is that they appeal to self-interest, they target some “bad guys” who need to be grappled with, they are almost invariably complaint-based (victim-oriented), and because of that, they are highly vulnerable to outside pressure and inside dissension, as everybody is really in it for themselves, at the root of it all. I watched Dennis go through levels of awareness with his journey, as did I. There is no teacher like experience.
When Mr. Professor and I miraculously sprang Dennis from jail:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it
Dennis went right back at is as hard as ever, but that one failed, and what happened in Ventura cost Mr. Professor his life:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
Gotta go to bed now, but I will write about more Level 10 efforts that Dennis mounted, including joining the "Patriot” movement and trying to get a Madison Avenue campaign going:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_edn55
before they threw him in prison, to see if he could survive the experience:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=401301&viewfull=1#post401301
I’ll write about those Level 10 efforts next, and we are far from through with Dennis’s Level 10 efforts. He is still trying, incredibly.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
7th February 2012, 16:00
Hi:
When I left Ventura for Ohio in 1990, I was radicalized and traumatized. What my friends, family and “allies” did to me was worse than what the Ventura County gangsters did (how much was due to Godzilla hiring them, and how much was due to garden-variety corruption, I will likely never know). That is the booby prize that you win when playing at those levels, if you involve your friends and family. I discovered the hard way that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, and it is the reason why we don’t have FE today:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
The technical aspects of making FE happen are fairly trivial. Heck, we have had FE and anti-gravity technology for a long, long, time:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
But doing it from scratch is also not too hard to do, but you can’t do it in a garage. Mass producing a Sparky Sweet device:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet
would take a little work. First, it would have to be made production-ready, and that would take a lot of time and money. Brian O estimated that it would take $200 million to do that, as have others, and I won’t disagree. Sparky did not really know quite how it worked, so there was a development of the theory to work out (which would upend classical physics, which is another one of the hurdles – overcoming the denial of scientists – their denial will only be overcome by having an FE device delivered to their homes), and then there is the quality control of mass producing them. It would take an Intel-type facility to do it, and that is part of the problem. Any effort that got that far long would get nuked, and they get nuked long before they ever get that far long. Such efforts are always strangled in their cradles. That is part of the conundrum. You can’t sneak up on Godzilla from your garage, much less build an Intel-type facility on the sly. When I hear people say how they are going to sneak up on Godzilla, I know that they are having boyish fantasies, like playing cowboys and Indians.
When I moved to Ohio, I began the research and writing that became my site, beginning with studying thermodynamics, patents and the alternative media:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big
Dennis’s attempt to resurrect the Ventura operation (which he called “Resurrection Marketing” in his inimitable style) failed, which bankrupted Mr. Professor and the stress of those Ventura days with Dennis ended up killing him:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
When I found my next career position in 1991:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#footnotes
I began working the crazy long hours again. In early 1992, Dennis invited me to Las Vegas, where he was holding a conference for his latest effort. He and his family moved to New Jersey (and still live there), within striking distance of Manhattan and Madison Avenue, as Dennis was going to try other avenues. He played the Wall Street game before in his heat pump days, but now he was going to play the Madison Avenue game. I flew out there, but I am not sure why I went, other than to see his wife and children. I really was not too interested in what Dennis was doing, but some of it was interesting.
Dennis was putting together a national ad campaign, syndicated through his network of partners. Several hundred people were at the conference. When we got going in Boston, it was obvious that Dennis’s Seattle experience changed his orientation. At our first Greatest Energy Show on Earth, Dennis unveiled an idea that he played on for a long time, about cutting the electric company power line to your home:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum
Click on that flyer for the show to see what I mean. When Dennis got the audience with the Seabrook chairman of the board:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carpet
the chairman joked about Dennis’s “cut the power line” statement, calling the power line an “umbilicus.” When I got to the Vegas conference, I saw the ad that Dennis was actually running as an infomercial on late-night TV. It had a scene of a woman cutting her power line with shears, as the line fell to the ground in a shower of sparks. I laughed when I saw it. I am sure that Dennis had a lot of fun making that scene happen for TV.
When we were raided:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid
a cameraman got the scoop of his career. Dennis spoke at an alternative energy conference the week before the raid, created a huge splash and took over the conference, and the guy filming the conference came to our offices a few days later, looking for work. He just happened to be at our offices when the raid hit, and filmed it. I was in the film plenty, and clips of me have been in Dennis’s marketing materials ever since. I was recognized at that Vegas conference, but laid low. At one point during the conference, Dennis told his story, and I could tell that he was getting to the point where he would introduce Wade the Hero to the crowd. I fled the room before he could. My low profile came in handy to Dennis later, however. He had several speakers at the conference. One was a rep from a Madison Avenue company, and another was the president of a Madison Avenue related company. That company had several of its staff attend the conference.
When the conference concluded, I flew home to Columbus, and the flight kept going to Newark. Apparently that Madison Avenue related company did not know who I was, because on the plane home, they were plotting how to steal Dennis’s company, and inadvertently shoved their plan right in my face:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal
Their plan was so typical, but for them to shove their plans in my face was another one of those larger-than-life moments on my journey. I told Dennis when I got home, and that was the end of their play to steal the company. They could no longer get in close to stick their dagger in Dennis’s ribs.
At about the same time, Dennis got involved with the Patriot Movement. IMO, that reflects Dennis’s migrant farmworker roots. That movement I wanted no part of, but Dennis tried to get the Patriot Movement involved with his FE promotion. He created a big splash, as usual, but what he soon discovered was the leaders of the movement were a bunch of fakes. They were really all about selling tapes, ducking taxes, and so on. It sickened Dennis when he got on the inside and found out what it was all about. Of course, the other Patriot “leaders” felt threatened by Dennis, and Bo Gritz went out of his way to disparage Dennis publicly. Dennis thinks that Bo may have been on special assignment, playing a “Patriot” leader.
Even with all the slings and arrows, Dennis still gained momentum with his programs, and just then, his appeals went all the way through the U.S. Supreme Court in record time. What a coincidence! :) The higher courts all failed to live up to the plea bargain that Dennis was forced into in Ventura, which left his lawyers scratching their heads once again. Not only were there many irregularities in his prosecution, but he supposedly committed a felony for not filing a form (which the prison records even called a civil code misdemeanor http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#failure), and the plea was specifically about the higher courts ruling on the constitutionality of the law as it related to his case. They never did it, so they violated his plea bargain all the way, and they threw Dennis in prison in late 1992, and put him in with murderers for failing to file a form:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=401301&viewfull=1#post401301
Dennis barely survived the experience, but got ”lucky” with only some fingers broken and teeth knocked out, thanks to the guards. Dennis wrote his first book in the Ventura County jail as they were trying to break him for trial (My Quest), as they violated his civil rights daily, threw him into solitary confinement for throwing a Christmas party, and so on. In prison, Dennis wrote another book, The Alternative, which documents the Ventura experience pretty thoroughly. Dennis even wrote a newsletter in prison, named The Insider, and the cover was a picture of Dennis behind bars. Dennis always had a sense of humor about it all.
Dennis became a folk hero in those days, with the people who join things such as the Patriot Movement. Some people really cared about what Dennis was doing, making the world a better place, and Dennis has always felt a great sense of responsibility for what many have sacrificed on his journey. That may be the main reason why he keeps trying: for their sakes. He wants to one day reward everybody’s “faith” in what he was trying to accomplish. Who knows? Maybe that day will come, but Dennis is sixty-five now, and his body is beginning to fail, with what it has been through.
But, as far as Level 10 attempts go, they have always collapsed from within, often as pressure was being brought to bear from the outside, with some provocateurs on the inside easily manipulating people by appealing to their greed and fear and exploiting their naïveté. What may have been the most unbelievable part of my journey, to me, was how easily people were duped by the provocateurs into screwing themselves.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492
For the dark team folks, duping people into screwing themselves was like taking candy from a baby.
When Dennis got out of prison in 2004, he went right back at it harder than ever, and created his biggest splash yet, which I will write about in the next post.
Gotta run to work.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
8th February 2012, 04:51
OK, to continue the Level 10 posts…
When Dennis was in the honors college at Farleigh Dickenson, he studied Utopian societies, and did a door-to-door survey of the public about their views toward institutions such as the government. He found that people were generally fearful and mistrustful of the government, but his survey was performed in New Jersey, so the population being sampled surely had something to do with the results. :)
When we lived together in Boston, Dennis believed that the American people cared, but needed something to believe in. As astute observer back then really questioned that belief, and said that the USA was too “fascist” to let something like FE happen. Fast forward ten years, to when I was with Dennis in New Jersey, and Dennis admitted that almost nobody really cared, but he was sifting the mine tailings of humanity, looking for gold nuggets. He is a better man than me, continuing to play that game. He knows that almost everybody will screw him if they get the chance, but he still plays the game, trying to get humanity to save itself. I believe that his strategy of going after Patriots, Christians and others like them is that maybe only 98% will screw him if they get the chance, instead of the usual 99%, and Dennis will take those odds. That is mind-boggling, but I refuse to play that game.
My journey that led me to Dennis was so unusual that it entered the folklore around him. When I chased him to Boston:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing
I did not even know how the heat pump worked. With my scientific background, I quickly learned the basics. When Dennis began thinking in terms of FE, I brought in some world-class talent to evaluate the idea, and the answer was, “maybe.” The Seabrook chairman said the same thing. The Second Law of Thermodynamics says it can’t, but some thought differently. Whoever was behind stealing our technical material in the raid thought differently, too:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr
When a voice in my head led me to Dennis:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2
I doubt that I could have been convinced that it was a coincidence. But I kept my eyes and mind open the entire time with Dennis, and I slowly began to see why our approach was doomed (or the odds were incredibly against it). And it was not because Godzilla was alive and vigilant; I foresaw that during my first energy dreams at age sixteen. The approach was doomed because not enough people could be found who cared enough for the approach that we were taking. I also saw something from the earliest days with Dennis that was a double-edged sword. His enthusiasm and faith were contagious, at least as long as he was in the room. But after he left the room, people reverted back to their doubtful, fearful selves. Dennis could not be around to babysit everybody all the time. Unless people were there for reasons deep inside themselves (and if it was not love, then it was not enough), then they quickly fell by the wayside.
Looking back, I can see that I began developing my comprehensive perspective when I was a child, reading the encyclopedia as my bedtime companion. As I began to see the FE bigger picture, where the technological, economic, social and political aspects all had their place, I began to see how almost nobody even glimpsed the big picture. All they saw with our efforts was either a way to get rich or to save money on their energy bills. They were oblivious to the globally transformative potential of FE. Dennis probably planted seeds over the years of people seeing the bigger picture, but I doubt that many understood. The comprehensive nature of my site’s writings bear faint resemblance to the message that Dennis has promoted for many years, and that is partly why we are not together. That is not because I don’t love and respect Dennis, but because I saw huge holes in the effort, missing pieces that were crippling.
Most of what you see on my site today, about the potential of FE, was just the result of what I saw on my journey and a lot of thinking about it. I learned this and that from various observers and participants, with my watershed moment being introduced to Bucky Fuller’s work:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
But my original energy essay, for instance:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm
was written before I encountered Fuller, the Peak Oilers, or NEM, or most of the anthropology that I have been reading over the past several years. My upcoming energy essay will be a more holistic effort than that original energy essay.
I began seeing issues with the Level 10 approach when Dennis’s company was stolen in Seattle while the crowd cheered:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#theft
They became clearer in Boston, and I had it beaten into my head in Ventura. I really was not too interested in Dennis’s Level 10 attempts after he got out of jail. I was licking my wounds for one thing, but I also realized that yoking the wagons to capitalism, nationalism, and religion were losers. Dennis’s approach changed over the years, too, but they were still variations on the Level 10 theme. When the efforts were defeated time and again, and usually from within, the survivors disappeared from the scene. I did not get the sense that many were there because of what it could do for humanity, or that they saw the big picture at all. There was plenty of greed, fear, paranoia, and dishonorable actions, but very little big picture thinking. That, perhaps more than anything else, was why I lost interest in what Dennis was doing. I will always wish him the best and maybe he will get The Muppet Movie ending:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related
but I am not holding my breath, and have taken a very different path since Ventura. I have devoted the past twenty years of my life to it, it may end up being just as futile as Dennis’s efforts have appeared to be, but I had to try it. I also did not want to see any more carnage, some that I was responsible for, as was that damned voice in my head:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3
I know many people who would love to be “chosen” by a voice like that and led to do “great things,” but it ain’t easy. I have no regrets, but I wouldn’t do it again. I am not fit for what Dennis does, and I don’t know anybody else who is, either. Dennis is the only person in the world that I know of who can successfully complete this application:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany
and I am not looking for any more like him. I am looking for sentient lambs. :)
But first, here is the rest of the story of my days with Dennis. When he got out of prison in 1994, I flew him home, as he escaped Ventura’s clutches:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=401301&viewfull=1#post401301
He visited me the next year, as he was beginning to stir things up again. Ever since he got out of jail in 1990, he tried to get me to go back to work for him. I always begged off. By early 1996, I was at the end of my rope at my job:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#how
and Dennis’s wife asked me to come to New Jersey in early 1996, to help set up their accounting, as they were beginning to roll again. I did, and the next month, Dennis’s national tour came to Columbus. The week before our first Greatest Energy Show on Earth in February 1987:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum
Dennis and I worked at a home show, and gave out hundreds, if not thousands, of flyers to the show. About thirty-five people attended. I took my protégé to the show, and I was expecting twenty people or so, and looked forward to seeing Dennis. Imagine my surprise when it was more like three hundred people attended. I’ll never forget seeing a group of Amish people there. That was just one stop on a forty-city tour, and then he did another one that summer that was bigger, and culminated in that show in Philadelphia, where five thousand people attended. Then Dennis convinced me to come back with him. That time, his core was comprised of volunteers. People were literally working for food and a roof over their heads. I was pretty surprised at what Dennis had going. But, it soon became evident that you got what you paid for with volunteers. Also, during that short stint with Dennis in New Jersey I finally came to realize that inventors were just as greedy and treacherous as everybody else. That was the last delusion that I shed during my Dennis days. I did not last long with Dennis that time, and he let me go home to Seattle in the spring of 1997, and I think I am here to stay.
I saw plenty of amazing stuff during that short stint, however. We met with Al Gore at the White House soon after the Philly show:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull
and twelve years later, I slowly came to realize that the Big Boys raised the game to a new level in New Jersey, and I nearly went to prison for my troubles:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker
Dennis’s venture largely collapsed in the summer of 1997, with betrayals and the rest of the usual mayhem. Dennis did another tour in 2001, but he got too angry for that one, which he later admitted. That is about the last time that I saw him. In 2004 or so, he came to Seattle and the media pilloried him. I did not even know he was here until people around me asked if I saw the news. The audience was about fifty by then. Then Dennis tried to do high MPG stuff. I know that such technology is real:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1
and I imagine that Dennis’s is, but really don’t know. If I added them up, I think that Dennis has mounted about a dozen Level 10 efforts over the past forty years. Some died with a whimper and some went out with a bang, but I slowly came to realize that mass movements, especially around something so conceptually challenging on so many levels as FE is, is a loser. About 95% of the population is scientifically illiterate, and the other 5% is scientistically indoctrinated. Technicians and scientists get all spun up on the technical aspects of FE, and think that the key to FE is developing the technology. It isn’t. Godzilla takes those people out easily. Most of the $100 billion in quiet money has been spent to take those kinds of efforts out of commission:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff
and those are the “benign” tactics. People applying for FE patents are also effortlessly taken out, in several ways. Delusions of grandeur seduce aspirants:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur
and many other yawning pitfalls await the unwary and inexperienced:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
The perils and temptations are like nothing else I know of. My game has been raising awareness for many years now, and my last Level 10 story will be when Brian O asked me to found NEM. There was a classic level 10 effort, if there ever was one. I’ll tell that story in my next post.
Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
8th February 2012, 14:50
Hi:
Level 10, continued….
As I left Dennis’s path, I continued to travel my own, the one that I began walking when I learned to walk. I was a bookworm from the time I could walk:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4
After I busted Dennis out of jail, I began the research that became my site. I originally began performing research to prep any expert witnesses that we got to testify. I was digging up patents, searching the Congressional Record, and so on. That only accelerated when I moved to Ohio:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big
as I tried to make sense of what I had lived through. I met Brian O the next year:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#dayton
Brian published his first FE book in 1996, and we hung out in California in 2001, trying to get the California governor interested in alternative energy, as Enron was raping California:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#sac
When I wrote Brian’s biographies, I dug up that 1970 clip that Scott begins his interview with Brian with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEwpeXaLIMQ
Nice peace sign. :)
That Cambodia protest was another chapter in Brian’s long and admittedly co-dependent relationship with Washington D.C.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#dc
As the dust was settling from America’s invasion of Iraq in May 2003:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading
Brian invited me to help found the New Energy Movement:
http://www.newenergymovement.org/
That is a classic Level 10 effort, and I wish them the best. Not only was the first speaker that we lined up for the conference murdered the week after he committed to speak, which spurred Brian to move to South America:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove
but I had watched Dennis get attacked for many years by his “allies” in the field, and one of his libelers was being invited into NEM’s inner circle by other board members:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel
and he wasn’t the only one. We had not even gotten off the ground yet, and we were aligning with people whom I knew had low integrity. That is when I started to want out of NEM. Brian begged me to stay, and I stayed to mount the Portland conference, and then I quit. Today, one of the most active NEM board members is good buddies with Dennis’s most persistent assailant:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm
At the Portland conference, I manned the registration table with my wife, and she later said that with all the shady characters attending the conference, it would have been no surprise to know that several were agents of various interests, including Godzilla. That just comes with the territory.
Brian got sidelined at NEM, but kept playing the Level 10 game to his life’s end in South America.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#oleary
http://www.brianoleary.info/Recent%20Events.html
Nobody out there is making much headway on the FE front. Some might count Rossi, and maybe something is happening there, but we will see, and there is infinitely more than meets the eye happening with that situation. Godzilla is not dead. I consider people like Rossi canaries in the coal mine, and I have never seen a canary survive the experience yet.
Brian and I beat our heads for many years on the doors of environmental and “progressive” organizations. Watch Brian do it at the White House:
http://www.brianoleary.info/Return%20To%20Washington%20v2.html
I started when I began a correspondence with Noam Chomsky twenty years ago, and I have tried getting the Left’s attention many times, to no avail:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm
Brian O had far more access and credentials than I did, and got the door slammed in his face every time. I tried stuff like the Free Software Movement:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm
who you would think would be natural allies, but no, nobody home. It is not like nobody has tried. :)
Every Level 10 FE effort that I have seen has been plagued with naïveté, greed, paranoia, arrogance, and other crippling factors on the inside, and if any get very far along, they will be infiltrated and attacked from the outside, with the inside-man provocateurs waiting for the most vulnerable moments to strike, which is usually when the attacks come from the outside. And when people are really in it for themselves, not the “cause,” they are easy prey to the carrots and sticks that are used on such efforts. Only a gathering of saints can make a Level 10 FE effort work, and I have never seen or heard of that gathering. The forces aligned against them, along with the general public’s denial and inertia, has proven to be an unbeatable combination. Factor in that most FE activists are their own worst enemies, and we have the situation that we have today.
Anybody who wants to build a Level 10 FE effort is welcome to try, but they have been warned. I am finished with such efforts. With the lessons from my Dennis years under my belt, when I subsequently saw or joined Level 10 FE efforts, I always saw babes in the woods who had no idea what they were getting into, making the exact same mistakes that I had already made, seen, and lived through, but nobody wanted to hear about it. They had to just go and find out the hard way for themselves, and that was not fun to witness, and I really don’t want to watch anymore.
I began thinking in Level 12 terms after the Ventura experience. But the Dennises and Brians kept operating in Level 10 terms, and I still ended up helping them, but my heart really was not in it anymore. I felt that a different approach was needed. Yes, humanity is a supremely ignorant and savage species, but does it have to be this way? Does everybody need to wear the blinders of self-interest, with our perspectives reaching no further than the limits of our egos and bellies? I decided that I was going to take the enlightenment route to FE. No playing to people’s egos to get my foot in the door. No pandering to the scarcity-based ideology of the day:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
to gain social “cohesion.” None of that stuff. No foolish tinkering in garages and shacks, thinking that we were going to sneak past Godzilla, no raising money, no beseeching the “powerful,” no complaint-based “protest.” I acknowledge Godzilla and his greatness, but I don’t worship or despise him. He is only playing his games with the power that has been abdicated by a species that refuses to act responsibly. If we take back our power, gently and lovingly, it will be game over for Godzilla, and he knows it. Energy is the biggest leverage point on the planet, and Godzilla knows it all too well, and keeping the masses from understanding that is one of Godzilla’s primary goals, and how he stays on top. All I want to do is make FE and what can come with it thinkable:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm
If I can have a hand in making that happen, that will be plenty for my lifetime. The Level 12 choir that I hope to help build won’t be operating from scarcity-based assumptions:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
They will understand that energy runs the world and always has:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
They will understand how the energy surplus has defined all human civilizations:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
and will have a pretty good idea of what FE makes feasible:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance
They will understand the difference between abundance and “sustainable:”
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#sustainable
and exuberant:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance
They will not get all spun up in “conspiracy theories,” cults of personality, rumors and related gossip, and will see the elite shenanigans as symptoms of our malaise, not causes.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
They will realize that love is the greatest energy of all:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest
and that a loving approach toward the FE conundrum is the only one worth trying. All the others have failed primarily because they were fear-based, at their root. A love-based effort has yet to be seen on the FE front. It might just have a chance, if enough people with loving hearts and clear heads can be found. If that choir ever begins to form, and I see glimmers of it with people such as Ilie singing, it will likely attract others who recognize the tune. Nobody will need to approach the rich and powerful for “help.” Nobody is going to try to redirect the herd to stampede in the FE direction. Each member of the choir will realize that their awakening will help others awaken. No proselytizing will be wanted or needed. Those are the old ways. It is time for new skins to hold the new wine.
That approach has never been tried before that I have seen or heard of. Does it have a prayer? Beats me, but I had to try. Do I have the right stuff to even try this? I don’t know, but it is a free world and anybody is welcome to try in their own way. My approach was wholly influenced by my journey, and I have seen many approaches that have not worked and usually ended in disaster. I decided to try something different, and we will see how it goes.
Best,
Wade
jcocks
9th February 2012, 06:13
I'm beginning to think that FE is never going to happen unless Godzilla is knocked off his perch. ANd nobody is going to do that except for Godzilla himself, by his own plain stupidity.And he's going to take a lot of people with him - in fact, it's going to take a very level head and loving heart to not be pulled down with godzilla. If you play their game, you're already a goner. Luckily, there are more and more people who want to play a different game. We're waiting to the playing field to be set up, we can see that it's going to happen.
Even a level 12 FE attempt isn't going to work, because you need enough awake and aware people who aren't brainwashed to make that happen...They're the ones who want to play a different game, who are patiently waiting.
When it is time for FE to happen, it will happen with relative ease, without the massive resistance that there is now. But I honestly believe the new game has to be in place first. The new game we're entering into will actually *WELCOME* free energy with open arms.
ThePythonicCow
9th February 2012, 07:46
ANd nobody is going to do that except for Godzilla himself
Or someone stronger, or divisions within Godzilla, ...
jcocks
9th February 2012, 07:56
ANd nobody is going to do that except for Godzilla himself
Or someone stronger, or divisions within Godzilla, ...
My point being, within *THIS* game, there is nothing stronger than Godzilla, since godzilla created the game. Godzilla hasn't even told us all the rules by which the game is played. So we can't even play effectively.
There is no way to win, the only way you truly "win" is by not playing. Our only hope to living peaceful abundant lives is to end this game so a better one can take its' place...
Ilie Pandia
9th February 2012, 08:16
Hi,
I think you should step back a bit. You're giving Godzilla way too much power :)
I do agree with Wade that Godzilla is a symptom of something else, and not the problem. We are in fact allowing Godzilla to exist.
eaglespirit
9th February 2012, 13:42
Godzilla Is Coming Undone!!! Gonna Go Exponential Very Soon!!!
Wade Frazier
9th February 2012, 15:09
Hi:
Just before I went to bed, I saw jcocks post, and really looked forward to replying to it. Those kinds of posts often bring out the best in my posts, at least from my end of it. Answering posts like that is fun, because it gives me a chance to discuss aspects of my vision and intent that may not be obvious or need some emphasis to get the message across.
I’ll start with a probable Earth that Michael Roads visited long ago. That reality was ruled by gray beings, who could be considered negative gray ETs, but I think they were something else:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade
As Roads made clear, they were interloper parasites who were taking advantage of the situation that humans had created through their greed and indifference. They only made a hellish world more hellish. Many of Godzilla’s members are heading toward incarnating in that reality, and not as the gray beings, but being members of the herd that provides negative emotional “nectar.”
In this world:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
heavenly beings visit, not gray negatives. In fact, the love vibe is anathema to those negative grays, and they would avoid a place like that like the plague. Even if they showed up (even if they could), they could not hide like they do in the other reality, and the people of that loving reality would likely offer healing to those negative grays, who would in all likelihood decline the invitation. But they would not be allowed to play their evil games there, even if they could stand being there. And they would not be violently dealt with, but by means that almost nobody on Earth today can even imagine.
But to bring it back to this reality, Godzilla stepped on me. The full might of the system was brought to destroying our effort in Ventura. At the darkest, there were essentially four of us standing up to the immense forces of evil, and we won. The big surprise was not that Godzilla was alive and vigilant, but how eagerly people did his bidding, and how cowardly, greedy, and easy to manipulate nearly everybody else was. They did most of Godzilla’s work for him.
If fifty people like Mr. Professor and I had stood with Dennis when the sledgehammer came down, we had a fighting chance. If it had been a hundred, it would have been easy:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes
We are the enemy, not Godzilla. If about 0.0001% of humanity really woke up, saw the root of the matter and helped make FE happen, it would be easy. But, humanity being what it is these days, finding and educating that tiny fraction is the hard part, but it is what I am attempting to do.
And as Paul alluded to, Godzilla is fractured. The “white hat” faction put on this show:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
If Greer’s sources are to be believed (and I respect what Greer says on this matter), about 70% of the Godzilla team favors FE coming out:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal
So, Level 8:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level8
is not necessarily realistic, and Level 9 is deluded:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level9
You have probably heard of the hundredth monkey theory (there is no evidence for the original hundredth monkey story being true, however) or Rupert Sheldrake’s Causative Formation theories. The Silva Method evidenced that phenomenon, where it became easier to train adults over the years:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva
My “choir” idea is really a hundredth monkey experiment. I got to Ilie and some others here at Avalon. It is a start. Will Godzilla see it as a threat that needs to be derailed? Maybe. I have my own Internet stalkers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll
but for now, they can’t get in at Avalon, and Godzilla has not sent anybody to my house yet. And I am doing my best to play in a way where they don’t. You see a lot of delusional Level 7 posts at Avalon:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level7
and the other lower levels are well represented, but nobody has ever tried the Level 12 game before. I obviously think that it has a chance. :)
We will see how it goes, and thank you, really, for making that post. It was valuable, and maybe that time that you hope for is near, and it will be easy, like The Muppet Movie ending:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related
when the time is right. That ending might be closer than any of us thinks, and if it happens, it will partly be due to the efforts of people like Ilie, as he raises the vibe in his corner.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
10th February 2012, 05:28
Hi:
As an addendum to my previous post, the “harmonic” effects that I hope to help achieve will be more than “morphic resonance.” I intend it to be a choir that sees the root, does not get lost in the chaff, and so on.
To that subject, I’ll give a preview of part of the thrust of my upcoming essay, or at least what I hope readers will be able to do when they have come to the level of understanding that I hope can be achieved. As I write this, there has been a great deal of media hoopla in just the past week about how the USA or North America or the Western Hemisphere can become energy self-sufficient in the coming years, to help balance the geopolitical scales. If we can get by without Islamic oil, we will be so much better off. I was watching a so-called expert expounding on it just yesterday.
The gist of the argument is this…
The Canadian Tar Sands, combined with Shale Oil out of the Rockies, along with frakked gas and Brazilian oil and more efficient use of those resources can make the Western Hemisphere self-sufficient, fossil-fuel-wise, and it will provide jobs. It is a win-win-win. I’ll give some of what that picture leaves out, and why it is a worthless perspective when compared to FE.
First of all, Shale Oil and the Tar Sands are not what we call oil today. They are hydrocarbons that are impregnated into rock and sand, far heavier and dirtier than Middle East oil. The Shale Oil is beneath mountains, and 80% of the Tar Sands are too deep to strip mine, so they have to drill wells and pump in high-temperature steam to loosen up the hydrocarbons (mainly bitumen) so they can be pumped out. The Tar Sands operation is projected to use all the natural gas in Alaska and Canada to simply extract the Tar Sands hydrocarbons. You will read about how much is there, but that tells the barest fraction of the story. As far as comparing it to Iraqi oil, it is an energy efficiency issue, but the stats I can get ahold of tonight are based in dollars, so I will do that to get an idea of the energy expended, but money is a very misleading measure.
The oil in Iraq is the sweet stuff. It is close the surface and easy to refine into high-grade fuels. It costs a few dollars per barrel to extract and refine. Iraq is the world’s last frontier for that easy oil, and has everything to do with why the USA invaded it. American oil companies will control that oil for the foreseeable future, and several million people have died in the project to secure that oil.
The Tar Sands hydrocarbons currently cost about thirty dollar pers barrel to obtain. Huge difference. And as with frakking natural gas and grinding up mountains to get the Shale Oil, the Tar Sands operation is an environmental catastrophe in the making. It is estimated that in 1859, when Drake’s well was built in Pennsylvania, which began the oil age, there were two trillion barrels of oil. With all the hoopla that you have heard in recent years about huge finds, the reality is that almost no significant oil deposits have been discovered in the last forty years. The Golden Age of oil exploration was the 1950s. By the 1970s, all the major oil deposits had been discovered and sized up. That two trillion estimate has not budged in quite some time, and humanity has burned up half of it so far, and will burn all of it in my lifetime, at current and projected rates. It is looking like “Peak Oil” for that oil, meaning the rate of extraction, was reached several years ago, and we are on a plateau, before the precipitous slide to empty oil fields.
Long ago, Stalinist scientists theorized that oil was not biological in origin, and believed that if you drilled down deep enough, you could drill into primordial deposits. That theoretical work was largely done before the theory of plate tectonics existed and the geological processes that make oil were better understood. You hear a lot of talk on the fringes about huge abiotic oil deposits just waiting to be tapped into forever, but it is just that, talk. There are no working wells found using the abiotic theories.
What is also not disputable is that burning hydrocarbons like humanity is doing is increasing the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere. What the hydrocarbon lobby’s “scientists” have alleged, however, is that increasing carbon dioxide can’t be causing the global warming that has been happening, or the issue is very clouded and needs more study. Virtually every atmospheric scientist not on the hydrocarbon lobby’s payroll disputes that doubt voiced by the shills from the hydrocarbon lobby:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#_edn11
Three-atom molecules in the atmosphere absorb solar energy. No scientist will dispute that fact.
The USA consumes about 25% of the world’s energy, about 85% of which is in the form of burning fossil fuels. What we today call renewable energy is around 1% of global consumption, where it has been for many years. The USA imports most of the oil that it burns. The thinking was that if the USA ground enough mountains down and drilled the Arctic, it could become self-sufficient, but that is a stretch, so now we hear that if Canada and Brazil chip in, the Western Hemisphere can become “self-sufficient,” which really means that the USA can suck its neighbors dry and not have to slaughter any more “towel heads.” There is a deeply racist framework to what the USA is doing to Iraq and Afghanistan, which is in keeping with history’s most racist nation.
The rhetoric being bandied about in the media today is insane on this score. Sacrifice huge swaths of the USA and Canada to mine those hydrocarbons, and Americans can keep up their profligate ways. And is just to keep up our current lifestyle.
There isn’t any more of the stuff being made. It is properly called mining. When we mine and burn it all up, what then? I know that FE exists, and it makes listening to the talking heads eagerly talking up America’s impending energy self-sufficiency a nauseating experience.
The choir will understand those basic issues, and will not be swayed by the immense propaganda coming from the mainstream. Finding more efficient ways to mine and burn hydrocarbons means that we might hit the brick wall at only Mach 5 instead of Mach 6. And windmills aren’t going to save the day, either, or the “safe” fission reactors that Bill Gates is currently promoting. They are all non-solutions.
That is enough for tonight. I’ll probably write a little more on this before long. None of the energy “solutions” being promoted are solutions at all, and none of them promise the transformative effects that FE does. The “solutions” being promoted today are all variations of business as usual, and are firmly seated in the scarcity-based ideologies that dominate human thought:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
Good night,
Wade
Bo Atkinson
10th February 2012, 14:31
Hi Wade and all. I have much to web-search yet, but at some point hope to see comprehensive coordinations of the so called abundance paradigm. In terms of healing systems for our ship-wrecked world state. Perhaps it is too difficult for forum people to progressively build up unified, conceptual constructs. There is one aspect in this area which has long seemed very absent in abundance conversations: Given the wasteful habits perfected in consumer societies, are folks really ready for leap-frogging into full abundance? Sure, incremental abundance does work. But what about the counter-intuitive spin offs? Are there not an equal number of ill-advised development-paths for FE? It would therefore seem that a comprehensive analysis of mis-use scenarios is desirable, somewhere.
I have studied some of Bucky Fuller's Synergetics and Design Science material. Good structural stuff there. The Venus Project, (lacking tech details), less-fully goes off into a very centralized bee-hive like societal tangent. Which all leads me to wonder if todays 'abundance' paradigms are all based on extreme centralization. Your subject matter somewhat supports decentralized, individualized efforts. Certainly, as in small business efforts like Dennis'. (Businesses with less than 500 employees). I'm more of the artist-philosopher-tinkerer who approaches all these design ideas. I never even got beyond small tinkering applications. Your essays sure resolve any misplaced dreams of making a go at business bonanzas, (like building towards FE). Actually, anywhere that money flows briskly, one can see the predators swoop in for a kill. And the parasites cling on to anything with big names. I always found selling any small product, whatsoever a difficult task. Only the older, locally-visible designs seem to sell at all. Ha,ha, no complaint here, just go with the flows.
I also have to get more into the tech roots which you and Dennis tried to market. Off hand, so far, it seems to me that Dennis' heat pumps basically innovated a linkage with solar panels. Wow. I had thought this was already used in the 1970's. Mind you all, that in those days, media was nearly impossible to search, without resources (or institutional help). I was stuck with very limited resources. (Almost a rehearsal for the predicted ship wrecked scenarios we will all face, if one agrees). So it was in the 1980s that i meagerly searched long and hard to find simple heat pump modules, for my own uses. Books were written on placing a heat-pump absorber under ground. Another, in a house attic to catch consequent solar and lost-house-heat. I had been using attic 'heat' for heating domestic hot water (without heat-pump). I also kept looking for water-to-water heat pump solutions, where we have lots of ground water here and a winter with so little sun available. I never found the 'right' modules back then. I got into wood fires instead. Also for modular refrigeration parts, to build one walk-in-cooler.... The market for this stuff is heavily controlled for bigger entities. DIY people seem detestable to these entities. It well illustrates problems with decentralized systems, from my own POV. I had never heard of your efforts in Boston, in those days, but would likely have rushed down to join your crowds. Heh. Wanting to buy modular parts, for DIY applications.
Later in life and too late for my home... Concerning domestic heat solutions, i highly recommend "self heating houses" design (PAHS passive-annualized-heat-storage or AGS annualized-geo-solar). There is a huge amount of info online for house builders. It is way ahead of the older, easily-obtained, pre-web information. These are more of a decentralized, annualizing approach. Whereas, Bucky Fuller long ago pointed out the wonders of covering many city blocks with a heat-regulating dome, (as a centralized approach to pretty much the same purposefulness).
Thanks for your thread here!
wavy
Wade Frazier
10th February 2012, 14:53
Hi wavydome:
Great post. Big subject. Yes, I was right in the middle of some of the situations that you describe. The panel of the LamCo system:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new
was a lot more than a solar panel. While the sun shining on it or the wind blowing on it was important, perhaps the primary virtue was getting all of that surface area for contact with the environment, which raised the COPs.
Probably the primary genius that Dennis brought to that heat pump was what he brought to the insulation industry earlier: industrializing processes that were at the craftsman stage.
Yes, the ideal FE solution is not a centralized power grid, but locally-produced. But the equipment that can do FE like Sparky Sweet’s device did:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet
has to be built in an Intel-type facility. The tinkerer route keeps getting promoted primarily as a way to duck Godzilla, which is not possible. The hiding-in-the-weeds strategy is a non-starter, and is not aligned with the mentality that will make an abundance-based world a reality, IMO. The FE devices that I see carpeting the world will be made in an Intel-type facility, and that requires an awake and engaged public. I vote for engaged and aware people over people hiding in shacks.
More this weekend.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
11th February 2012, 17:08
Hi:
I have been working the crazy hours lately, and the next three months will be insanely busy for me. I probably won’t get too much done on the energy essay then, but I will try.
To wavydome’s rich post, I have some more to add.
On going from profligate to abundant, will it take some time to “get it?” Sure, but it shouldn’t take too long. But it is currently going from profligate to austere in the USA and the West. The American standard of living has been declining, in spite of the high tech stuff, since the 1970s, when our energy consumption per capita peaked. That change has been becoming pronounced in recent years, with all the tent cities and squatters’ communities sprouting up around the USA. The comfortable middle-class neighborhood with the stay-at-home moms, which I grew up in, is extinct. I plan to make some “negative visions” posts here before long:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell
It can be good work to face the fears. The fear reaction to FE is by far the most common, from outright denial:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
to saying that that FE would be the worst thing ever for humanity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5
It is true that environmentalists and other groups who consider FE the enemy have not produced coherent critiques of how FE could go wrong. Their reaction is a visceral denial. Brian O found that out the hard way as he played the Paul Revere of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere
All he got was doors slammed in his face, and he had access to many of the world’s most prominent institutions. For instance, Amory Lovins:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amory_Lovins
blew a gasket when Brian mentioned FE to him. Wavydome mentioned the Venus Project. Brian once had dinner with a Project Venus “visionary,” and the man flew into a tirade when Brian tried talking about FE. When you first encounter it, it can be astounding how all of those so-called visionaries have fits of denial when faced with FE. It has so far proven impossible to have rational conversations about the FE issue with almost any group. And when people get past the initial denial and fear, they want to rush off half-cocked into Levels 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
and people can easily waste and lose their lives in those levels. My upcoming energy essay is intended to be comprehensive. The comprehensive coordinations that you mention will likely only come from Level 12s, and there are only a handful of those on the planet right now. I am trying to help more get there. :)
The thoughtful analyses that you hope for will come when more get beyond the denial/fear phase. Any technology can be misused. The environmentalists and other groups in fear and denial only see the downside, and don’t want to see the upside. As I have written plenty, it took many years for me and my fellow travelers to realize that we were seeing something else with all the fear and denial: people are addicted to scarcity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation
If you had told me that back in 1986, I would not have believed you. It takes many years of being on the front lines to eventually understand. This is a conundrum like no other. The fear and denial is mainly about the person understanding at some primeval level that the world as they know it would end with FE.
Marx was right in that all societies rest on their economic foundations, but Marx did his work when the science of energy was in its infancy. Energy does the hard work in the industrialized world, not people. All civilizations for all time rode atop the energy situation, and their energy surplus defined them:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
Marx’s problem was that he initially went about it in a delusionary, messianic, Young Warrior fashion:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors
He would have been a Level 9 guy today, if he could have shaken denial of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level9
His Communist Manifesto was a prototypical Level 9-style effort. In his old age, he finally realized his folly and advocated peaceful means.
Anyway, all of that is a big subject that I can only scratch the surface of today.
When Brian O asked me to help him write that DOE proposal:
http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html
part of the process would have been looking at the downside of FE. However, as I was writing my part and thinking about what Brian intended, I thought that you could only have the kind of conversation that Brian wanted to explore if people could get past the denial stage. Almost nobody is past that stage, so I had a hard time seeing how something like what Brian proposed was going to get off the ground. Of course, the DOE instantly rejected our proposal, saying that we were knocking on the wrong door. No surprise to me:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull
Yes, as I stated in the previous post, decentralized yet coordinated is the way to go, like the Internet’s ideal. Tinkerers in garages are not going to make FE happen. Almost none are ever productive, and those who “get lucky” and tap the ZPF are quickly removed from the scene.
Yes, the commerce route to FE is doomed, IMO, for many reasons, some of which you cite. But people like Dennis keep trying.
On Dennis and his heat pump, the reaction in the 1970s and 1980s, from the solar people, was attacks and dismissals. The LamCo heat pump blew away all solar systems, which was probably why they attacked Dennis. But there were many other problems. Before Dennis got involved, the LamCo heat pump was a tinkerer’s dream. Fully half of the buyers of LamCo systems before Dennis got involved installed it themselves:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#technical
It was a tinkerer's paradise, but highlighted the problems that will plague people who think that FE is going to come from garages. That LamCo heat pump was an exotic piece of equipment, with those huge panels. That panel made the refrigeration handbooks obsolete. The theory around that heat pump had not yet been developed. Most of those tinkerers who installed the LamCo heat pump by themselves could not get them to work right. The level of refrigerant charge, the expansion valve settings, how you configured your refrigerant lines, how the panels were oriented to the sun and wind, were only some of a slew of variables, and there were many ways to screw it up.
As Dennis tried building an industry for that heat pump, he had to train installers. He had to start with a Class B refrigeration mechanic, and then he had to get the mechanic to throw away his handbook, because the LamCo heat pump introduced parameters that had never been seen before. After a week of class and about five installations, the installer began to get the hang of it. There was no way that you could really create an industry with a situation like that. Dennis spent millions of dollars in making that heat pump something that could be mass produced with a standardized installation, but he eventually envisioned an appliance that would not need the field installation.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#develop
That was about the time that the energy gangsters in Seattle pulled out all the stops to kill his company:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seattle1
They killed off that disruptive technology with extreme prejudice. What happened in Seattle was the biggest run at bringing alternative energy to the American market that I ever heard of.
What made Dennis scary was not the technology; it was how he went about marketing it. His Systems For Savings plan was sheer genius:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs
The BPA understood the threat:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bpa
but almost nobody from the public did. Heck, Dennis did not understand that they considered him a threat before he began dodging the death blows that they kept raining at him. The tinkerers had tunnel vision, as did Dennis’s business partners. Every time Dennis’s partners stole his business, they threw away Dennis’s “crazy” marketing plans and tried to sell the systems for cash, going for the quick kill. They all promptly failed. Again, Dennis’s genius in approaching the problem has virtually always been ignored. The technology was only part of the issue, and arguably a small part. You had to make the technology foolproof and easy, and you had to take the customer’s risk away, for something that expensive and exotic. The only way to create an industry around that heat pump was to carpet a market with them. The economies of scale and working out the kinks of the production/delivery system were key. Dennis always wanted somebody else to make and install them, and they could try to keep up with how fast he sold them with his marketing plans. He never found that partner who could deliver, so Dennis had to vertically integrate and build, install and sell them, while also lining up the financing. That is no easy trick, I can tell you, especially when you begin with twenty dollars in your pocket and no place to sleep. That Dennis did all of that without a businessman’s training is nothing short of incredible, but I have almost never found anybody who was interested or could even understand the issues. With my background, and seeing Mr. Mentor’s comprehensive and inventive genius:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral
I was primed, especially with my business school training and a few years in the real world of capitalism, to understand. That part of my journey with Dennis was like being Mozart’s student. But all anybody can do in the FE field is lie about Dennis:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel
That is partly why Brian O said that the people who will bring FE to the world will be new to the field:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new
The names in the FE field today largely do not have the right stuff.
To your story of looking for heat pump solutions - that is all near and dear to my heart. Back when Dennis was in Seattle, the DOE gave an award for the “design of the year” to a guy who invented a ground-source heat pump. It got a COP of three. The LamCo device got as high as a COP of twelve. Dennis used that ground-source heat pump story a lot in his literature, citing how something with a COP of three gets awards while the one that is more than twice as efficient gets ignored. It comes down to the recovery time. Rock is a poor conductor, which is why geothermal never goes anywhere on a mass scale. You quickly remove the heat, and then you need to wait while the conduction of heat through rock replenishes what you removed. Water is a little better, because it flows, but that will only work in some ideal locations, and the ones marketed got COPs of three, not much better than the COP of two that standard heat pumps got. When you go with taking heat from air, you are not sucking heat out of a static resource like the ground-based pumps used. The air would get replenished quickly. And that big surface area was really the key to getting those high COPs. Having the sun shine on it or the wind blow on it only increased the heat exchange, making the COPs rise. And at 100K BTUs per hour, the four-horsepower model easily heated homes in cold climates, at about a 70% savings over oil and gas.
The LamCo heat pump blew everything else away, but you could not make an industry where the buyers installed it themselves, or you tried to sell it for cash, or even had craftsman installation in the field. The only way to really develop an industry was to have either the entire appliance built and charged in the factory, or at least have the panel array prefabricated in the factory and ideally pre-charged, so the installation process was fast and foolproof. And if you could sell them by the thousand with an ingenious marketing plan that eliminated the consumer’s risk, then look out. That is what Dennis had going in Seattle.
In the many years since, I was initially amazed at how the FE scientists and tinkerers were absolutely blind to the business/marketing aspects of the issue, while all they could do was lie about Dennis. The lessons that Dennis’s journey had to teach were completely lost on them. Those were some of my early indicators of the tunnel vision that nearly everybody had. Virtually nobody saw the big picture. But Godzilla sure does, which is why Dennis was offered a billion dollars to go away in Ventura:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
and I have rarely encountered a person who can even imagine why Dennis would be made an offer like that. All I ever get is a million flavors of denial, which shows that the deniers have absolutely no idea how the world really works, and why a garage tinkerer or an FE scientist was usually no threat at all or easily dealt with, as far as Godzilla was concerned, and why Dennis was such a dire threat:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar
Dennis was perfecting the pipeline from the workshop to the marketplace. That was the threat, not the technology so much. But almost nobody ever understood. And that is why when I eventually encountered Fuller’s work:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
the light bulb went on for me like it did. Only people with a comprehensive perspective can really understand the big picture, and that is what I am attempting to help people achieve:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
but is it not easy. As Brian said in our Camelot interview:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#sentience
it takes people with a high sentience quotient, who have had experience in diverse fields, to really begin to grok FE and what it can mean and how we can get there. In today’s world, such people are truly needles in haystacks. Less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population are even candidates for beginning to understand the FE conundrum and how to unravel it. And then they have to do the work, and I am going to try to make it easier for them to get there. People like Ilie are doing the work.
On the self-heating houses, when I lived with Dennis in Boston:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing
the house that we lived in for the first month that I was there was one of the USA’s first solar homes, built in the 1950s. The house was a long rectangle with the entire long south wall being a solar collector. The house was hot in the winter. :)
As the Romans deforested Italy and the surrounding vicinity, they began building their homes with a southern orientation, and their glass windows (the first time that glass is known to have been used en masse) created solar collectors to heat homes as the wood became scarce, beginning in the early days of the Empire. It was one of the world’s early Peak Wood experiences (see John Perlin’s Forest Journey, p. 118). Solar heated homes have been around for awhile. :)
Of course with FE, all of that wringing more energy from sunshine, or oil, or the air outside your home, will become obsolete. The leading theorists have long hypothesized that a cubic centimeter of “empty” space contains more energy than is contained in all the mass of the visible universe. That may be sufficient to power humanity at an abundant lifestyle. :) Even the models of other theorists such as LaViolette, that have the “ether” containing far less energy, still have plenty to power humanity at levels that are like Star Trek, and forever abundant and clean.
Again, wavydome, yours was a great post, and I am happy to discuss that subject matter further. I have a busy day ahead of me, but I may make another post or two this weekend.
Best,
Wade
Bo Atkinson
12th February 2012, 13:50
Thanks Wade, By contrast, i was more interested in cruder occupations, working with the earth, stone, metals, glazing, 'permaculture' and eventually with pcs, etc.... I am a volunteer studying self willed slavery.
You infer: "...wringing more energy from sunshine, or oil, or the air outside your home, will become obsolete."
That is certainly a fascinating point to speculate upon. Just what occupation or variety of possible occupations would abundance-worlders have? Sci-fi seems to provide any number of optional occupation types.
I was always more interested in integration of art, science and philosophy as one occupation in-situ. Which naturally is a no-seller in a world caught up as ours. There's always that bigger and better mouse trap of occupations. Service with a hypnotized smile but oblivious to discord in the wake. Thinking inside the box and only about boxes. The "ship wrecked romance of life" managed to inspire me to suffer for art. Providing more time to focus on mind and spirit.
~w~
Dennis Leahy
12th February 2012, 16:26
Hi Wade,
A chorus of Level 12s will need to believe, to the marrow of their bones, that "zero point" energy exists, and can be tapped. I am convinced, but struggle when I try to point out information that will "close the deal" in someone's brain - especially someone who has never even heard of ZPE. I have watched so many videos and have read everything I could find - far more energy/effort than the average person will spend to convince themselves it even exists. We need a very succinct resource to share with interested people, something that can take the average 6th grade education equivalent TV watcher and (at least) plant a seed.
The average microwaved-GMO-munching, remote-control-gripping person isn't going to sit through a Marco Rodin video, well, not unless their eyes are held open, a la A Clockwork Orange.
I realize that a large percentage of people may even scoff at this information. Deeply brainwashed people have a very difficult time dealing with truth. However, some will get it, and a few of those will have the level of compassion necessary to make the leap to a Level 12.
The energy essay you're working on may end up to be thee resource to send the curious to read (those that read, that is - you may have to follow up with a video for the other half of society.) But, right at this moment, what are the best resources to point people to, that are interested in finding out about this kooky "free energy" or specifically "zero-point energy" all the kids are talking about these days?
Thanks!
Dennis
Wade Frazier
12th February 2012, 18:05
Hi Wavydome:
Long ago, Joya Pope read me as an Old Artisan:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading
which was probably the last role that I thought I was. But then I looked around at my life and realized that about my only possessions were my library, my music collection, and prints of paintings, including several by my favorite artist, Vinny van Gogh, whom I was forced to study when I was fifteen:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe
and my favorite entertainment activity was watching movies, which is humanity’s most powerful art form at this time. It was all art. Somewhere along the line, I realized that my website was a classic Old Artisan undertaking, because it was a creative way of looking at the world. Part of me thinks that it is not so creative, but more looking at the world as it really is, but that may be an artisanal conceit. :)
I get the suffering artist archetype. My favorite recreational activity is scathing my body by hiking in mountain forests and meadows. Those are the most alive times of my life, with good pain.
While many consider Roads’s work fictional, I don’t, and I also don’t consider this account a fictional one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
and I have thought long and hard about that world, and what problems they solved that we have today, and how their society was structured. They are what Walsch’s “god” would call highly evolved beings:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#walsch
and in a society like that, everybody’s occupations are doing what gives them joy and helps their society and all other life forms. There is plenty of time for philosophy, working with their hands, and so on. There is far more true leisure in that world than there is in our world. There is obviously no money in a reality like that, and nobody is working so they can keep a roof over their head and food in the belly. That society has ascended a few levels of Maslow’s Hierarchy. No suffering artists there. :)
Your post dovetails with what I was planning on writing when I got up, which was to honor Dennis’s desire to see at least what I am thinking of, when I discuss Level 12:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
and I think that I have to spend some time stating what it is not. A lot of what you see at Avalon and similar forums is circus and distraction. A lot of it is not very grounded, but tends to fly off in all sorts of directions, few of which are really productive. Many if not most so-called “truth seekers” tend to wander into blind allies, off cliffs or get lost in the weeds. I saw a lot of it when looking into the JFK hit:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#jfk
and the moon landings:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo
The aftermath of 9/11 is a textbook case of conspiracism:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11
While studying the fringes, staying grounded is paramount, and there is a ton of chaff for every kernel of wheat. Very few of my pals really understand where I am coming from. I get bombarded with tales of the latest FE tinkerer, or the latest alleged elite shenanigans. I have had that libelous essay thrown in my face about twenty times now:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel
and sometimes by the same people, repeatedly, and they tell me as they hand it to me about what an astute piece of writing it is! :(
Discernment is critical in these areas, and few people really exercise it, as they eagerly eat chaff, thinking it is wheat. I see it with the moon landings all the time, as chaff and outright disinformation is continually recycled.
A Level 12-er is going to acknowledge both the structural and conspiratorial aspects (unconscious and conscious) of the FE conundrum.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
Each has its place, but each by itself, to the exclusion of the other, is as useful as a two-legged chair. An attempt to understand the FE conundrum through only one of those lenses ends up with a lopsided perspective. Also, conspiracism and structuralism have their victim-orientation in common, and both see the elites as the bad guys who are primarily responsible for our problems. That is how victims think. Creators take ownership of what they see. Until we own it, we cannot change it.
So, what does Level 12 look like? Level 12 will be comprehensive in its perspective:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
A comprehensive perspective will necessarily have a scientific component to it, and it could be argued that it is the foundation of it. That is one of the biggest problems with achieving Level 12, because about 95% of the population is scientifically illiterate, but scientists are also indoctrinated into scientism. You see that scientific illiteracy all the time in the fringes, as all manner of half-baked and untested theories get paraded as The Next Great Thing. The physics textbooks look like cave drawings compared to the principles that the above-top-secret technologies operate under:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
But the vast majority of alternative theory that you see in the fringes is not valid. I respect the process of science, while also acknowledging its limitations. Organized skepticism is really a religion that worships the scientific establishment:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends
and it has its inquisitions and other trappings of the formal religions. The “skeptics” are also shockingly dishonest, especially for a movement that promotes honest rationality. In a world of scarcity, everybody is trying to butter their bread, so all movements have their fair share of self-serving dishonesty in them:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
The people I respect the most began their journeys buying the scarcity-based BS that they were fed while young:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts
But their honest pursuit of the truth and a better world led them to their eventual awakening. To one degree or another, they shed their indoctrination. But because they pursued the truth, they also tended to stay on that razor’s edge that leads to true knowledge, which can only be gained by experience. And here is where Level 12 comes in, and why it might not work.
My journey to Level 12 was life-wrecking, as was everybody else’s whom I respected. There are many casualties on the way to Level 12, with people falling into the gravity wells of comforting ideologies that short-circuit their awareness. On the fringes, conspiracism is one of the most dangerous pitfalls to a pursuit of the truth. Somebody remarked early in this thread that the thrust of my work was almost the antithesis of what Avalon is all about. I understand that observation. Unlike almost everybody at any fringe forum, what I was doing actually attracted Godzilla’s attention and he stepped on me. I know what those claws feel like, and it was no fun, and he certainly keeps half an eye on what I am doing, but I really don’t pay much attention to him, except to try to play in a way that he does not feel a need to step on me again. Godzilla is a symptom of our collective malaise, not a cause, but victim-oriented people on the fringes do not want to hear that. They hope that if Godzilla can be defeated or snuck past, then all will be well on Earth. Not in a world of scarcity, it won’t. Others will only take his place, and today’s world is full of aspirants who seek to unseat Godzilla and take this throne.
Fuller understood the scarcity dynamic very well:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#scarcity
Making the resources available to humanity abundant is very likely the only way to turn the corner as a species, and to do it in a way that does not harm the ecosystems is a job that only FE can do, IMO. And all resources are energy-dependent. With FE, all resources become abundant. A Level 12 is going to understand that, in a very nuts-and-bolts way, which my upcoming essay is intended to make very clear. I have put up some previews of it:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
and my upcoming essay will go into quite a bit of depth on those issues. As I see it, what may be the hardest thing about reaching Level 12, and it may be where this attempt is doomed, is attaining the requisite understanding without going through the FE meat grinder. If everybody who reached Level 12 had to live through what Dennis and I did:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting
Level 12 would never get beyond a few bedraggled survivors of the FE wars. Today, almost nobody on the FE scene has been through the meat grinder, but are tinkerers, scientists and enthusiasts who have not really been on the battlefield, where the contenders are separated from the pretenders. There is nothing like being there. But, and I am hitching practically my entire approach on this idea, people who have had their own kind of awakening experience, that poked holes in their indoctrination, and who know that there is something wrong with the picture that they have been fed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
are the people that I am looking for. I am not looking for heroes, the kind who could successfully complete this application:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany
Dennis is the only person I ever heard of who could meet that standard. I am not even looking for spear carriers like me. I am only looking for people who can lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough so they can imagine abundance.
For those who think that it is a worthless activity, they are certainly not my target audience. :)
But, during my journey, and the journeys of fellow travelers like Brian O, we eventually had it driven home in no uncertain terms that virtually nobody on the planet today thinks in terms of abundance. They have all carved out their niche in our scarcity-based world, and all they can see with the advent of abundance is their niche disappearing. That was the most consistent discovery that we made, and that goes for everybody I ever met who has been vocal on this issue. I eventually realized that people were addicted to their particular flavor of scarcity, and would defend it to the death, even if it meant the destruction of humanity and the planet, and we are tippy-toeing along the edge of that abyss today.
At this junction of writing this post, I see that Dennis made a post. This post somewhat addresses it, but I will make another post to be more direct on that issue. My upcoming energy essay is not intended to show people how FE devices work, or the principles behind them, except briefly. The thrust will instead be to show how energy has always run life on Earth and the human journey, and how the energy issue has always been the defining parameter of all human civilizations:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
When people understand that, which scientists have an easy time understanding, then I will make the case of what a world based on FE could look like. At that stage, many may think that I am asking for their faith. But that is not really true, and I really don’t like the word, “faith.” My journey is richly documented, and my FE credentials, at least for being on the battlefield, are documented in the books that Dennis wrote from his cells (My Quest and The Alternative). I was Brian O’s most trusted colleague who wrote his biographies:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm
and I spent at least 12,000 hours, unpaid, performing the research, writing and editing that became my site, after I survived the FE wars. I have fellow travelers whose message is similar to mine, who definitely had the goods, such as Adam Trombly:
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?6577-Adam-Trombly-Thrive-Movie-Starchild-Program-Zero-Point-Energy-Part-1&p=42924#post42924
There is plenty of meat to chew on in my writings, plenty of fact-checking that can be performed to assess how “real” I am. If a reader goes through that effort, they will also understand why I don’t name names very often, and am currently not at liberty to disclose who was treated to this show:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
but I hope that my readers won’t consider that to be me asking for their “faith.“ I only relate that anecdote to tell my readers that FE is not some fringe fantasy. The stuff is real, very real, but we don’t get any while 99.999% of humanity is ignorant of these issues. And I only relate that anecdote so that my readers will understand that the kind of world that I envision:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance
is not some boy’s fantasy, and that world would not be that far off if we had FE. The Level 12 choir that I am trying to amass may not only be critical in helping FE finally manifest for the public, but may also be a critical part in helping it manifest in the most benevolent way. An unenlightened implementation of FE could be disastrous, but we are already facing disaster on so many fronts, primarily due our unenlightened relationship to the energy issue, that the “risk” is well worth it, IMO. I am not saying that an enlightened implementation of FE is guaranteed, but it is far more likely if a Level 12 choir can be formed, and the Level 12 choir will only help enlighten the awake and the awakening. Joe Average will begin to believe in FE and what can come with it when it is delivered to his house:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli
and that is far more than 99% of humanity, and that is OK. If several thousand people could form the Level 12 choir, that would be enough, I believe, to catalyze the change, and that is only 0.0001% of the global population. I don’t think that I am asking for much. :) However, people who can really grok the FE issue and conundrum are vanishingly few, and the only people eligible to become Level 12s have to begin with a loving heart. Anything less will fall into the many pitfalls that await the inexperienced and the unwary. I don’t write about those many pitfalls as a theorist:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
I fell into some of them myself before clawing my way out, and I have seen many FE aspirants disappear into all of them, never to emerge.
This post still only touched the surface of what Level 12 looks like, or at least the Level 12 that I envision. :) Others are free to promote their own flavor of Level 12. I always encourage others to aim higher than I am, and I am keenly aware of how the meat grinder damaged me. I hope that the Level 12 choirmaster eventually becomes somebody a lot more enlightened than I am. Whenever the Ascended Masters want to appear or the benevolent ETs, my response will be, “It is about time!” And they will likely respond with something like, “It is always the right time.” Those smart-asses. :)
More later.
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
12th February 2012, 19:12
Hello Wade,
You're looking for a thousand people to lend their attention to the energy issue, but reading your post above I had a realization.
Out of the 7 billions of the people on this planet only 5000+ have become members of this forum and out of those around 1000+ are active and out of those perhaps a handful lend their attention to the energy issue. Let's also assume there are around 50 more forums like this one (in other languages), although it's a bit of a stretch.
Finding a thousand people for the choir looks like a daunting task!
Looking at the people's reaction to Free Energy and the change it represents, I am tempted to think that those beings that become aware enough, reach a point in their journey here when they say: "That's it! I've had enough!! These people are not ready for change. I shall leave my body now and return in say... a few hundred thousand years? Maybe then they will listen". But then again, such beings may be loving enough to decide to stay. (Dennis Lee surely seems determined to leave his mark!)
This will enter the "airy fairy" field, but I've heard Michael Roads talking about a "reality" split, the "good with the good" and the "bad with the bad". To be honest, that seems to be the most logical solution to this conundrum. It starts to seem more easy to create a new abundant reality than to attempt to awaken everybody on the planet now. This points to more inner work, rather than to attempt to wake up the neighbor. And if your "light/awareness" will rub on others then is good, but if not... then it's also OK....
Wade Frazier
12th February 2012, 19:50
Hi Ilie:
Great post, and I’ll write more later, but yes, if we are going to be rational and look at the situation, the odds look insanely long, and that old Star Trek joke of “there is no intelligent life down here” comes to mind. However, I had a voice in my head that led me on a journey that was far larger than life, and I was just a spear carrier. Dennis’s journey is truly unbelievable, but nonetheless true.
When I sacrificed my life to give Dennis at least a snowball’s chance:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it
I figured that it was a totally futile gesture, but I had to do something. It worked. So, I know that there is far more than meets the eye happening, and even though I dislike the word, I am operating on “faith” that I was not sent here and guided to just get to roast marshmallows over the dying embers of human civilization. If we turn our backs now, there may not be a human civilization to reincarnate into in three hundred years. About a third of ensouled species that can manipulate their environments destroy themselves at just the juncture that we find ourselves in today, if Michael is to be believed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael
So, I think that I am needed to help us turn the corner, and you are, too. A quiet life spent in meditation, helping to raise the vibe, can be good work, and the Level 12 choir is really not much more “active” than that. I really am not asking for much from my readers, other than losing their scarcity-based conditioning for a little while, but that has also proven to be one of the most difficult tasks on Earth. :)
More later,
Wade
Wade Frazier
13th February 2012, 04:42
Hi:
One of the great pleasures of being at Avalon is the kind consideration that people such as Ilie and Dennis show toward this thread. Whenever things seem to be wandering into other topics, which are usually related to the FE issue, I have found that somebody else will play thread policeman, so I don’t have to. That is highly appreciated. At places such as ATS, the trolls would constantly hijack the threads, and before long, it was troll fights and other fun, and my thread was wrecked.
I am sympathetic to those who want to discuss FE physics or FE math. I made an FE physics thread so it could be discussed.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14129-Free-Energy-Physics&p=138564&viewfull=1#post138564
An FE math thread would also be appropriate, I think.
In 1998, I sat and listened to Bearden talk for about fifteen minutes as he described how a device like Sparky Sweet’s worked. He did it in front of about three hundred people, and I am sure that nearly everybody was left in the dust. It took all that I had to hang in there and follow his description, and when he got to the part where a negative time wave was the secret to making it work, it tripped the light fantastic. A great deal of alternative physics is available, as well as the mathematical underpinnings of them. Brian O used to get into physics talk in his presentations, and quickly realized that it sent people’s heads spinning and he lost them. He then stopped doing it, and usually confined FE physics to brief descriptions of how magnetic fields (either with rotating magnets at about 2,000 RPMs or solid state ones like Sparky’s) excited the electrons and pulled energy from the ZPF. Brian tried to make FE scientifically respectable, and somebody had to do it. I came from the activist side of the house and said that I did not care too much about the theories; I knew that FE devices existed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
Back in 2001, I described my orientation to the FE issue as specializing in the political-economic aspects of it. The next year, I was told that I was being a generalist/comprehensivist:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
and I can live with that label. The bottom line is that much of the alternative physics and math that abounds related to FE may well be valid, but not all of it can. LaViolette’s subquantum kinetics, for instance, diverges from Bearden-ish notions of the seething vacuum, and the difference in potential energy between the two models is prodigious, although both theorize that there is plenty of available energy to power FE devices at levels that would seem like magic to the average physicist. The proof is in the pudding, and working FE devices tend to validate the theories (but the good ones are taken out of circulation almost immediately, which is part of the conundrum), but it is also important to realize that the theories often fall quite short of describing the working technologies. Classical optics cannot explain how Rife’s and Naessens’s microscopes attained their resolutions:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens
but looking through the lenses is proof enough that they are defying classical optics. Various theories have been proposed to describe how they attained those resolutions, but nobody really seems to be sure, either. When Naessens tried to patent his microscope, the process broke down as they tried to fit optical theory to its results. Similarly, nobody quite knows what Brown’s Gas is or how it works:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull
Yull himself was not sure, and stressed that it was more important to understand what it did than how it did it. We really don’t know much about how the universe operates, which Einstein happily admitted, as have all the great scientific minds that I have known. Creation is a big, mysterious place. :)
Most of the points that I will be making in my energy essay, for instance, will focus more on what energy does than where it comes from. It won’t stray far from the orthodox theories in that I will acknowledge that the sun’s energy powers Earth’s ecosystems, as well as the hydrological cycle and that burning fossil fuels releases the sun’s energy that was captured by life forms hundreds of millions of years ago. I will also acknowledge that the ZPF is something different. Whether the sun, for instance, is powered by something other than fusion is not a subject that I will be covering much in that essay, or whether “genic” energy is behind a seeming difference between the energy measured inside Earth and what is theorized to be provided by nuclear fission.
I don’t mind if those posts stay on this thread, and also begin an FE math thread. No harm done. :)
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
13th February 2012, 15:47
Hi:
Another long workweek is coming up. I briefly want to make a distinction clear about how far FE is from people’s imaginations, even among supposed visionaries and progressives. In the long view of the human journey, there have only been a few true revolutions, and they were all centered around how people acquired energy. So far, there was the harnessing of fire, which is now argued to have caused the appearance of humans, as cooked food led to many changes in protohuman biology:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn4
Humans also began altering Earth’s ecosystems when they harnessed fire. Controlled burning of the landscape was new. Maintaining a fire is considered to be humanity’s first organized activity that separated us from all other animals.
Next was the development of hunting technology and mass hunting tactics that allowed humans to hunt large animals. This likely kicked off the golden age of the hunter-gatherer, and allowed humans to expand their range across the planet. They were too successful, however, and hunted all the large animals to extinction:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5
When the easy meat was rendered extinct across the planet (they only survived in Africa and somewhat in Asia, because those animals evolved near humans and protohumans and learned to fear and avoid them), then humans learned to domesticate plants and animals (and humans), and civilization began:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#domestication
In each of those revolutions, humans achieved a level of social organization and technological prowess that allowed them to tap a new energy source. During the domestication phase, people learned to smelt metal, deforest the land and invent plow agriculture, invent social hierarchies, and technology developed to the point in Europe where water and wind energy were harnessed, which allowed for rising standards of living, and also allowed Europe to conquer the world with its technological superiority:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first
As Europe was conquering the world, England was kicking people off the land in the name of profit, and created the landless peasants that would become Marx’s proletariat in a new form of social organization known as capitalism, which exalted greed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed
Each revolution made more energy available than before, and the energy surplus formed the foundation that defined each epoch of the human journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
The industrial Revolution also went through phases of energy acquisition and use. The invention of the technologies to generate, transmit and use electricity had a major influence on the development of industrialized society. The man who invented the electric technology that powers the world was also one of the early figures on tapping a new energy source:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla
but it would be a threat to capitalist empires, so his inventions were suppressed, and the suppression of novel energy technologies has become a science in the subsequent century, with the hyper-capitalists spending prodigious sums to prevent the next energy epoch from happening:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff
because not only would the energy surplus from those energy technologies dwarf all the previous surpluses, but they know that capitalism would also die, as it would mark the end of economic scarcity, and enforcing artificial scarcity is how the hyper-capitalists stay in control. There is also heavy indoctrination given to all members of the capitalist societies that make capitalism seem to be natural, even humanity’s highest state. Also, the capitalists control the scientific establishment, and the scientifically-trained are indoctrinated into a very narrow way of viewing the natural world, and that new energy source is declared non-existent by the prominent theories, so scientists are taught to not even think about such potential energy.
While people become cogs in the capitalist machine, they are inculcated with a very narrow sense of reality, to be controlled. That indoctrination is very subtle and looks like education, and the scientific “education” is perhaps the most subtle and insidious of all.
It has not only reached the state where so-called “skeptics” dishonestly and irrationally defend “science”:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends
But even the progressives, even the so-called radicals, totally ignore the energy situation in their “visionary” work:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#parecon
just assuming that the current energy situation is a given, and they work within those confines, not only never suspecting that they are trapped within a system of heavy indoctrination, but when they even hear about FE, they react in irrational denial:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3
pointing at their physics texts on why that energy source does not even exist.
I didn’t quite get to finish the point of this post, but I have to run off to work. More later.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
14th February 2012, 05:42
Hi:
I have a little time to try to finish the thought. Those energy epochs are the Revolutions of the human journey, with a capital R. Everything else is small stuff. It would not take very many of us to initiate the biggest Revolution ever in the human journey, by far. The other Revolutions were not very consciously initiated. If you asked the people who learned how to tend fires, or invented more sophisticated stone tools, or domesticated wheat, none of them had any idea of what that would lead to. Even the Industrial Revolution wasn’t a very visionary or conscious effort to those who made the breakthroughs, although more of them had an inkling of what it could lead to than those who learned how to tend a fire.
The biggest Revolution of all that could be just around the corner has at least a few people out there who know what’s up and see the bigger picture of what their efforts may lead to, even if 99.999% of humanity is currently oblivious to the situation.
When plants, animals, and people were domesticated, social hierarchies developed, and from the very beginning, ideologies were promoted by elites that gave them some special significance in the universe, so they could justify riding atop the economic hierarchy, and making those below them in the food chain accept their place, including slaves. And all of that stuff was called “human nature,” but it wasn’t. The sedentary populations made possible by domestication gave rise to slavery, and the rising economic tide of industrialization made slavery an obsolete institution. In the USA, racism and sexism have been under siege for generations. All of that “human nature” theorizing to justify inequality in a world of scarcity is just the flavor of the day. As there is more to go around, those ideologies fade away. There are still a few more to go:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
and FE can make them all seem like buggy whips, as far as their relevance to the human journey is concerned. I want to sign up for that future, and seek others who can envision it with me. That is my goal.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
14th February 2012, 15:06
Hi:
As I have been making recent posts about the big picture of the human journey, one PM came to me asking where Atlantis fits into the picture, or all the megalithic structures around the world. In the story I am telling, they really don’t, and I largely do not go there on my site. And even if there is evidence of technologically-advanced civilizations in our past, it really does not change my thrust much, but that evidence is usually pretty shaky. For Stone Age peoples, working in stone makes sense, even if it challenges our imaginations as to how they did it.
No physical evidence is particularly convincing for technologically-advanced civilizations in our physical past, and other evidence conflicts with it. Studying paleontology leads one to believe that if Atlantis existed, it was either not quite on the same plane as we live today (so would not leave behind physical evidence for us), or they were pretty gentle on the Earth. Take New Zealand, for instance. It separated from the local landmasses (Australia, Southeast Asia, and Antarctica) tens of millions of years ago, and birds filled all of the ecological niches that mammals and marsupials did on the neighboring landmasses. It was that way until the Maoris arrived, and then the usual extinction episodes quickly happened. So, if Atlantis and Lemuria existed on our plane and on our planet, they did not disturb New Zealand’s ecosystems by introducing other animals. The same goes for Hawaii, etc. Wherever scientists have studied the fossil evidence, when humans appeared, they drove all the easy meat to extinction pretty rapidly:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5
and often brought their own plants and animals with them, intentionally or unintentionally (such as rats during the Polynesian Expansion), so although maybe some technologically-advanced societies existed in Earth’s past, there sure is not much evidence of the ecologically-disruptive practices that humans have been known for for the past fifty thousand years or so.
There are many situations like that, which make the case for advanced civilizations in the human past seem unlikely. I am certainly aware of a great deal of the anomalous evidence in the world, and I have little doubt that plenty is being covered up, but just what that all is is hard to say. I try to stay away from subjects where there is slender evidence and a boatload of speculation. I always try to root it closely to my personal experiences, or things that people can explore for themselves (Silva http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva, Naessens http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens, UFOs at Mount Adams http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm, the documentation of my journey http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm, the facts of history that seem to not quite make the history books (such as Washington’s plan to swindle the natives http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), and so on).
I have little doubt that ETs are real. The first UFO show that I got was spectacular, and James and friends tell amazing tales that I have little doubt about (making a UFO light up on request earned him plenty of cred with me).
I have had numerous psychic readings, and many of them have been startlingly accurate and prescient, and I could claim some lofty spiritual heritage and allege that I am a member of some super-duper soul elite, but that would be all ego, and that is a New Agey trap that snares many seekers and is the refuge of charlatans. If I can’t demonstrate it, or show you how to find out on your own, it is pretty worthless. What we can do, in this world, now, is important. The rest really isn’t, not in this lifetime. Claiming some virtuous soul-past is pretty pointless, IMO. I was told by an alleged archangel once that I helped melt down Atlantis. If so, that is one of the black spots on my soul’s resume (and explains a lot of my preposterous journey in this lifetime). In the same sessions, I was told about a soul contract that I had for a once-in-a-lifetime event that unexpectedly happened later the same day, so that channel has more than a little cred with me, but I can’t remember any of the Atlantean experience, other than to suspect that I was female in that “meltdown” lifetime, and I certainly cannot prove any of it, so I leave stuff like that off of my site. I visit some of that territory at Avalon, but fleetingly. I try to keep the conversation grounded if I can. Most fringe topics quickly fly off into wild claims with no or highly-equivocal evidence. When I have poked into issues such as the JFK Hit:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
the moon landings:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo
or 9/11:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11
the three-ring-circus atmosphere and recycled disinformation were constants. The so-called truth seekers are their own worst enemies, by and large, and are easily led astray.
I am trying to help people think comprehensively, and giving them resources so they can go do the work:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
And you can’t get there without doing the work. :)
Until more of us can think comprehensively and see the root of the matter and stop flying off into a million distractions, Godzilla has the game well in hand. I don’t know about you, but I do not want to live on a planet ruled by hyper-elites, a great many of whom are dark pathers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving
who would gladly watch the planet melt down (from their survival enclaves, of course :) ) rather than give up their “power.” I am trying to change the game here on Earth, but a handful of heroes can’t get the job done:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes
But a stampede of sentient lambs just might. :)
Best,
Wade
Billy
14th February 2012, 17:57
Hi Wade. I am not sure if you remember looking at the 70% plan on the GFC Network website last year. These are the posts to refresh the memory.
Now at last the website has been updated and completed this week, we would love your feedback if you have the time to have a look. Hope to hear from you soon.
http://www.solution.gfc.uk.net/index.php
Green Fibre Network ~ Your contribution to solution
Welcome to Green Fibre Network.
The site is intended for promoting initiatives that offer a real opportunity for transcending the destructive patterns of our collective cultural manifestations as we evolve from the military industrial complex into a more benevolent and conscious 5th World community. As such, the site is not intended as another 'social network', but as a community space to empower better ways of living and creating a cultural infrastructure that honours all life. Please use this site consciously.
GFC, across all of it's sites functions according to three primary principles:
Quality before Quantity
Promote before Protest
Cooperation before Competition
These principles serve as guides to the right attitude towards actualising a brighter reality for self first, in honouring the beauty of life and valuing the quality of experience, and then for the collective in contributiing and enhancing the experience for all people and life forms.
It is easy for attention to be consumed by the many dysfunctions expressed by the human collective at this time. It is not our intent to add to the noise of protest. In any healing process, be it individual or collective, awareness of the dysfunction is the required first step. While we remain unaware, either through ignorance or denial, nothing can change. When attention is directed towards the dysfunction on this site, it is done so in order to promote awareness of the dysfunction and not to protest the symptom. Underlying all dysfunction is a root separation at a causal level. Changing patterns at the level of cause will bring about an energetic transformation from a field of aspiration. A bright future drawing us forward instead of a bid to get away from that which is either behind us or is our current reality. This movement 'towards' short curcuits the need for a fight, which protesting at symptoms usually ends in. Attitudes of protest further deepen polarised separation in "I'm right, you're wrong" attitudes. This approach to change will never deliver solution.
The 'bright future' will not simply be given to us. It is up to us to create it. Many many people are taking steps to live their own dream of a better world and the spectrum of arenas requiring change is vast. If you count yourself among the solution creators, then the invitation is extended to you. Become a member of the GreenFibre Network and promote your initiative here. We are the ones we have been waiting for.
Regards
billyji
Good day Wade and thank you for your comment
I would like your opinion on our 70% plan in our website http://www.gfc.uk.net/pdf/zero.pdf
The plan needs to be updated, and we are also creating a new website at this time. This is our new video just released which will be on our new site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DACZAnltiI
My friend Sunfeather and I spoke last night about asking you and Bill if we could use your interview with Bill on our new website. ???I hope you enjoy and i look foreward to your comments. Yours Billy
Your reply here
Hi
OK, I have a little time. I will do the next installment of the “visions” series for Ilie soon, but first, I need to reply to all those posts. I think that I need to put a link to the posts that I am responding to, because the gap between post and response will likely be like this in the near future. This forum made me get rid of a bunch of the smileys, so I will get rid of a few, but you can see where they were.
Hi BillyJi:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=145068&viewfull=1#post145068
People can use my public interviews however they wish.
That 70% Plan is brilliant. It is a comprehensivist approach, so it obviously has many overlaps with my writings. I am really happy to see it out there. I am an economics guy, and see energy as the lynchpin, but it will probably take a critical-mass nugget of heart-centered sentience for it to manifest. Allying with something like that is easy for me to do. :) Thanks for making me aware of it.
Best,
Wade
Billy
14th February 2012, 20:19
Wade If you manage to have time to look at the website, The 70% plan has also been updated sinse you last read it. It is not offically lauched yet but open for feedback
Regards
billyji
Wade Frazier
15th February 2012, 04:42
Hi Billyji:
I would not forget something like the 70% plan. There are lots of plans out there, but the 70% plan is one of the most beautiful that I have seen. That is cool that you refer to Brian O as simply O’Leary, kind of like saying Einstein and Newton. If his name becomes widely known in that way, we will have turned the corner.
It obviously gets into esoterics, and my work does, too. The holistic perspective of it is obviously important, and I naturally am going to like the indigenous aspect of it. I always emphasize energy over money, as one is real and the other is imaginary.
Keep it up,
Wade
Billy
15th February 2012, 10:03
Thank you Wade. It is great to hear your approval of the possible solution in the new website. Although it has not been launched yet this will be in the next couple of weeks. feel free to share the link and join up if anyone feels inclined.
The 70% plan http://www.solution.gfc.uk.net/plan.php
Foreward we go
Regards Billyji
Wade Frazier
15th February 2012, 15:04
Hi billyji:
The 70%-ers can make fine members of the lamb stampede. :) The more people who can think in terms of FE and what comes with it, the better. It would be neat if FE consciousness sprouted in a million places, but that has proven to be a tall task. I am trying to make at least one place where it can sink its roots deeply enough where it can survive long enough to create some harmonic effects. Thinking about FE comprehensively is how I am going about it, and the 70% plan goes a long way in that direction, too.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
15th February 2012, 15:20
Hi:
Briefly, before I go to work. One of the biggest thorny issues with the FE conundrum, and I saw it plenty during my days with Dennis, is that when the money issue comes into it, all hell breaks loose. So it is, in a world of scarcity, as everybody tries to get their slice of the pie. And that slice-seeking mentality is always the weak link whereby the movements collapse. In my upcoming essay, I will make the distinction between the financial economy, the real economy, and an economy that takes the wellbeing of all life into its ledgers. The first is egocentric, the second is anthropocentric, and the third is what I call soul-centric. Money is not real. It is only an accounting game, but in a world of scarcity, that is the one that almost everybody focuses on, usually to the exclusion of the other two, and its motto is, “I got mine!” That is why I continue to emphasize that money is really not important to the FE issue. Money moves the focus from the soul to the ego.
While people are operating at that egocentric level, Godzilla finds their efforts laughably easy to defeat, if he even needs to lift a claw, as the efforts self-destruct in an orgy of greed. If there is one aspect of the FE conundrum that I am “expert” in, it is that one, I am sorry to say. That is largely why you see me reject all offers to raise money around my efforts. Money only buys somebody’s effort. If an FE effort is based on people being enticed by money to pay attention, then the effort is not going to work. The Internet is currently a social asset that has so far successfully resisted efforts to bring it to heel. Radio originally started out as a social asset, but it got privatized, and look at it now. So, I am doing what I can to take advantage of this medium before the forces of greed and self-interest wreck it.
What I am trying to do I have seen called the race between education and catastrophe. The race is not over, but at least it is still a race.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
16th February 2012, 15:36
Hi:
I have been having a PM exchange on ancient civilizations and their relevance to my work. Were there ancient civilizations that had advanced energy technology? Are some of their technological feats unrecognized today because scientists cannot wrap their heads around the energy technologies and resultant artifacts? Some of that may be the case. Is there anything that we can learn from studying those ancient civilizations that can make our situation today more comprehensible?
Around megalithic structures, there is a lot of, “How did they do it?” The denial of mainstream science on the energy issue may help fuel their skepticism about ancient civilizations, but it is not all misplaced skepticism. Virtually all the ancient artifacts that I know of have been made of stone. I doubt that they could have been too advanced, particularly on the energy issue, if they could not smelt metal.
I have read up plenty on disappeared ancient civilizations, and have had people close to me tell tales of archeological discoveries being covered up. I write about a defrocked archeologist on my site:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#mcintyre
and cite works such as Forbidden Archeology on my site and a few other fringe sources like that. I have plenty of Childress books at home, and channeled and past-life regression books on stuff like Atlantis. My first love was archeology, and I helped scout for a dig when I was about twelve. I had a fossil collection from what I found as a kid, and so on. I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy since about 1996.
One pal is convinced that some Mesoamerican pyramids have evidence of being configured and built for energy reasons (mica sheets are his primary evidence), but my reply is if there was all of that energy somehow generated by means that we would consider esoteric (I have been familiar with pyramid power for nearly forty years, and I know there is something real there), what did they use it for? Surely not to run appliances. If all that energy was generated, what was it used for? There are plenty of fringe theories on that score, too, but the evidence is thin.
I also have been reading a great deal of anthropology in boning up for my energy essay.
This is where I stand on the issue….
I respect the people who have sifted through ancient middens, braved Arctic and Outback weather in search of fossil layers, and so on. There is a great deal of important work that has been done, and it has helped inform and enlighten me on many issues related to the history of Earth and humanity. Their toolset is impressive and keeps getting better, such as gas chromatographs and mass spectrometers. There is fraud and cover-ups, fabricated findings, internecine wars and the rest, which you can find in any discipline, in this world of scarcity, I am sad to say.
However, professional anthropology compared to fringe anthropology can be like comparing a Ferrari to a skateboard. Most fringe findings do not hold up to scrutiny. I am not saying that orthodoxy is always right or even on the right track, but the fringe findings are often so flimsy that they cannot withstand much scrutiny. Studying the fringe findings usually arrive at a big fat “maybe” of a conclusion, at best.
You have seen me refer to it plenty, but Rife’s and Naessens’s microscopes demonstrate very clearly that not only is orthodox optical theory found wanting, but the findings of those microscopes upend a lot of what microbiology (and orthodox theories of life itself) is based on:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens
Have one remote viewing after taking the Silva class, and the materialistic conceits of mainstream science collapse, never to be rehabilitated.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva
My technical pals who saw that UFO light up with me were never the same:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#visit2005
I am reading a book right now on how much of a political undertaking Darwin’s efforts were. It was a highly conscious attempt to replace theism with materialism, but it was performed rather sneakily.
So, not all is well in the halls of orthodoxy and never has been, but that does not lend much credibility to the fringes, either.
And this is where is can get tricky, and I write about it plenty:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm
My interest in all of that orthodox and fringe anthropology is in how important it is in understanding our past to the extent that it can help us understand the present better, and what it can mean for our future. It is obvious, whether it is orthodox or fringe, that energy has always been the name of the game, going back to the beginnings of life on Earth.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
If an area of study helps improve my understanding on those subjects, I am game, and it is rarely easy study.
While there may be fruitful learning to be had in fringe archeology, there is so much wacky stuff, too, that you can dive into those rabbit holes and not come up for air for several years, and end up with nothing but fool’s gold in your hands (but the experience can be educational, and all fringe seekers probably need to have at least one of those experiences). And when I looked into the moon landings and other fringe topics, it was sobering to continually go deep on evidence that fringe voices touted as air-tight, to only see it disintegrate upon further inspection. When you have enough episodes like that under your belt, you begin to grow highly skeptical toward fringe claims. The “skeptics” are often fraudulent in their stance, and can be incredibly narrow-minded:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends
but that does not make the fringes right, either. People are constantly trying to enlist my interest or effort in their fringe project. Most, even if valid, is not going to solve the world’s energy problems and boost humanity into the quantum leap to abundance, which is where my interest is. I consider it possible that some technologically-advanced civilizations nuked themselves or had some other kind of meltdown. If so, their extinctions were likely related to misusing energy technologies. What would that mean for us? The misuse and abuse of energy technologies is the biggest threat to humanity today, from nuclear fission to burning fossil fuels, not to mention the West’s genocidal invasions of Asia’s hydrocarbon country. For two years in a row, we had manmade energy catastrophes in the Fukushima meltdowns and the BP Gulf Spill. So, the peril is obvious, but how many more do we need before we begin to get it? The current situations are likely more instructive than what may have happened with Atlantis. Until Atlantis rises or we get unequivocal evidence (if the good stuff can survive the organized suppression), investigating evidence of technologically-advanced vanished civilizations is a highly speculative affair.
I see our predicament as more of an issue of sentience than anything else, and that short-circuited awareness is because people have dug in for survival and won’t budge from their niche, and the scientifically-trained can be the most obtuse of all:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive
People are choosing their semi-sentience out of fear. Love is the only way out that I know of, and is the crux of the conundrum, IMO.
I don’t need to belabor how uninterested I am in looking into the next FE aspirant who is chasing patents, money, and fame. I don’t get to see efforts such as the 70% plan very often, or Dennis’s The Reset Button. That I see more of those happening is encouraging, especially as the energy situation is increasingly being seen as the central issue, and on that subject, orthodoxy may be the least reliable source (because of the tremendous stakes of the game).
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion
What Billyji and Dennis are doing are choir-like behaviors, and long overdue in this world. As I have written, a Level 10 approach has so far been easy to derail. I am seeking a smaller, more committed, more aware audience than the kinds of people that Level 10 efforts fish for. I don't seek the hundred heroes or ten million gawkers, but thousands of sentient lambs. :)
Best,
Wade
Hughe
17th February 2012, 04:35
@Wade
I barely scratch the mind of builders who created great pyramids and many stone structures 10,000+ years ago. They know those sites will be safe for buildings over ten millennium somehow. They built a pyramid that will stand intact beyond climate change in nature, natural disasters, earthquake, flood, etc.
I watched a documentary film about world without humans on Earth. Within 300 years after all humans disappearing on Earth, things that we've built all erased by nature. Just 300 years. Metals are rust, dissolved. Modern buildings, structures that requires external energy to maintain will fall piece by piece as times go. Because human science and technologies are based on destructive, energy consumption which are reverse to the nature. 200 years will erase most mega cities on the planet.
1200 years ago ancient(?) Koreans built a artificial cave temple. Long story to short, they built a temple so that it'll have remain thousands years. Since it was discovered by modern humans, after their brilliant fixation, the temple began to develop moisture in chamber which is very sign of structural destruction. What they came up with is not to accept their mistakes but to install HVAC machine, putting another layer of concrete and wall of glass hoping it will fix it for a while. Yeah. Assuming the HVAC machine gets electricity for a long time.
Few engineers found out the secret of how to maintain dry air inside the chamber but it hasn't been implemented. To do it they need to remove all the machines which can not be welcomed by arrogant or stupid professionals.
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I learned how to work on wood for building my shelter and workshop for myself two months ago. I began to fall in love with smell of wood, smoothness, organic nature. Anyway one day I met a man who told me ancient Korean knew a unique wood process method that wood panel withstand a thousand years.
Modern humans think, maybe we've been manipulated by TPTB how amazing modern civilization is. Modern civilization is at the pinnacle of destruction and exploitation of nature. Is it a bless or curse? Every day I hear rumbling sound of fighter jet, a marvelous war machine that burns a thousand gallon of oil per few hours of flight. Why wouldn't those people who wholeheartedly advocates carbon tax for global warming propose cutting down emission from all the war machines: vehicles, air crafts, ships.
Ancient people knew how to work with metals but they used stones and woods for important building. They preferred to use ceramic than metals for pots. Why? Energy efficiency. A ceramic pot will go hundreds years easy. It can be used by many generations. So they embedded their philosophy into those. They made quality products that withstands harsh nature hundreds to thousands years not like junks we make barely run a decade.
History of human devolution in plain side. Will we able to get back lost wisdom soon? I hope so. Working with nature not destroying, harmonic, creative way.
Wade Frazier
17th February 2012, 04:42
Hi:
It is time once again to reiterate my intention for my public FE work. I have done it several times, and each time I say it a little differently, so that the point can get across, because it is obviously a difficult concept, even when people are trying to understand. It took me many hard years to arrive at my perspective, and I sympathize with people who have been influenced by all the scientists, inventors, and promoters who have dominated this subject for many years. I am not taking their approach.
The analogy this time will focus on the automobile. What are cars good for? What are their transformative effects on societies? What are their costs and benefits? The conversation can stray into the metallurgy for making lighter, stronger engines, or valve design, radiator design, gear ratios, or the various ways that fuel can be introduced and combusted. Those are important scientific and engineering issues, but they generally have tangential impact on the discussion of what a car is good for and how it can transform a society. Technical types can discuss why cars get the MPGs they do and how that can be improved. But anybody who discusses the technicalities of high MPG carburetors, without an understanding that the corporate imperative is to keep MPGs low to help the oil companies, is missing the dynamic’s most important part. High MPG carburetors do not mean anything in a corporate culture that has effectively banished them:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1
The world’s best engine does not mean anything:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse
in a world where such disruptive technologies are shelved and buried by the score, even if they ever get to the point of becoming a market threat (which rarely happens).
Dennis discovered the hard way that Washington’s electric companies were not really interested in energy conservation,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run
even when their propaganda said so:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#whoops
Similar to the car issue and its many facets, FE talk that gets into the technicalities has its place, but that is not what my work is about.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#physics
I know that FE and related technologies such as antigravity are real:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
but even if I could tell you exactly how they worked, I could not demonstrate them, so it is mostly just talk. Consequently, I do not get too far into the theories behind FE. There is plenty of theory out there, and you can hear all about sacred geometry and other ideas. Even if an FE tinkerer goes at it in his workshop, the odds are long against any success. If he miraculously gets something working, then the fun only begins, if he survives it.
The primary concept to understand on the FE physics front is that empty space is not empty, and that the “ether” really exists (even Einstein admitted it), and that is where FE comes from (and where does the ether come from? :) ). I will not go too much further into how FE works, and I am more interested in what it can do and what its transformative potential is. Some beautiful Avalon threads have been devoted to just that subject:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth
While discussing FE physics and FE math can be good work, the thrust of my work is different. I survived being on the FE front lines, and I would only recommend it to people who are willing to sacrifice their lives for the cause, and death is the easy part of that journey. :) I can tell you that the peril is real, the primary issue is the salient position (arguably a death grip) that the hyper-elites have over humanity, and the most influential of them have made self-service a science:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving
But they are parasites more than predators, and they are an integral part of humanity at this time. There are no victims in this situation, although that is faint comfort if you get clobbered by them.
I can also tell you that the only “warriors” from the public who can make a dent in that situation have love in their hearts, not anger.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors
They know that the means become the ends, so they understand that “getting the bad guys” is an adolescent fantasy. Godzilla will not die in battle, especially one that the public mounts. The helpful warriors will persuade, not coerce. The path that I advocate is for lovers, not fighters. It is the lamb’s path. It has never been tried before, and we will see how it goes.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
18th February 2012, 03:47
Hi Hughe:
Big subject. Nice video. On pyramid builders and such, it is hard to know what happened and what they were thinking. The evidence is pretty clear that metal smelting came relatively late in the Domestication Revolution. The first metals worked were those found as nuggets, mainly copper and gold. It took high temperatures to smelt copper and bronze, and iron took even higher temperatures, which could only be achieved in blast-type furnaces that could attain temperatures a thousand degrees Fahrenheit hotter than hearth fires produced, and the first such furnaces that archeologists have found were located on hills, where the furnace could take advantage of the prevailing wind. I consider it likely that those megalithic structures were made of stone because that is what their level of technology allowed them to work in. There is a vast amount of esoteric speculation about the megalithic structures, and virtually all of them had some kind of astronomical significance, it appears, and there are plenty of theories about that issue, such as comet and meteor impacts that caused people to fear and worship celestial bodies (those violent, male, sky-god religions, as compared to feminine, Earth-based religions).
You are not really addressing advanced civilizations in your post, so I am sorry if this seems a little off topic, but if there was any kind of advanced civilization on our plane in the last million years, I think that there would be evidence of it. Not gleaming skyscrapers, but plenty would have survived. It takes a glass bottle a million years to degrade. Some of the plastics that have been made will virtually never degrade in the environment. Caches of metal coins from Roman times are continually found, and Neanderthal graves have been found with flowers in them, and they have been gone for more than twenty thousand years. A buried gold artifact could last as long as life on Earth will. Scientists can tell when soils have been disturbed. Deposition processes are well understood, and the dating issue has many lines of convergence. For one example, the mountain chain that Hawaii sits at the end of is about 85 million years old:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_volcanoes_in_the_Hawaiian_%E2%80%93_Emperor_seamount_chain
which the rate of plate movement and radioactive dating methods both confirm. Seeing how that hot spot drew a line across Earth’s crust is pretty cool. If Atlantis and Lemuria existed on our physical plane on Earth in the relatively recent past, there would have been some evidence of it, I think, beyond the largely conjectural evidence that has been produced, such as crystal skulls. Again, there is no evidence found so far of human-changed ecosystems in places such as New Zealand, South America, North America and Australia before humans appeared in the relatively recent past.
On working with wood and stone, we can consider that to be ancient wisdom or ancient inability to manipulate their environments more effectively. I advocate a world where we don’t leave behind artifacts, or at least our waste. With the exotic materials that are being kept under wraps (Flubber is not all that fictional), we can probably make buildings that last millions of years. And when we no longer want them, they can go back into the recycler. Or, we could make dwellings that disintegrate when no longer needed, such as those electromagnetic bubbles in this world:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
That civilization may leave behind very little when it is time to move on.
Were there environmentally-gentle, technologically-advanced civilizations in our past that left behind virtually no trace? It could be, but I am skeptical. Not skeptical like the “skeptics,” but skeptical in that I want to know, and what I have seen has failed to convince me. I kind of keep up on archeological findings from around the world, and no professional archeologist has found any of that kind of evidence that I am aware of. I am well aware of the dirty pool that is often played on the “mavericks” in scientific field, but the evidence is simply not very strong for extinct, technologically-advanced civilizations on Earth. If there were, and maybe we could learn from their experiences, a least from what we can tell from their remains. For all of the disappeared and collapsed civilizations that have been studied so far, it seems that droughts (as in multi-year droughts) were the primary factor that collapsed them, from the Anasazi to the Mayans to Angkor Wat. Deforestation and the resultant erosion and desertification was certainly related to the decline and fall of many Old World civilizations. It is a bone of contention in academia, but Bronze Age and Iron Age peoples were great at deforesting the land to wrench more energy out of it. And in the Fertile Crescent, draft animals could pull plows. It was great for short-term crop yields, but is an environmental catastrophe in the long run.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
18th February 2012, 04:17
Hi:
I am just making a little post on how my life goes with the FE stuff. I am bombarded with emails, and public and private Avalon posts, on the subject. It is part of the price for playing the public game that I am these days. My wife is not real happy with it, but tolerates it, and some days are better than others.
Today I received a PM from somebody who once played the energy game and barely lived to tell the tale. It is not the first PM that I received at Avalon like that. The people who approach me with their horror stories were not even playing the FE game, but some seemingly innocuous energy-saving technology that they invented, and their lives were wrecked. They don’t want to share their stories publicly, and they seem to think that I am, to some degree, speaking out on their behalf, and I usually am thanked for telling my story, so now they know they are not crazy. I am glad I could help. :)
When we were flying high in Ventura, we had people come tell us their tales of woe:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#platinum
It comes with the territory of playing this game. I don’t make it a point of collecting those stories, but I have heard far more than my fair share over the years. Brian O knew about twenty-five dead FE inventor/scientist/promoter stories, and he did not make it a point to collect them, either.
There are far more pretenders than contenders on the FE field of play, and this morning I was once again emailed a link to that libelous essay:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel
I have been given it more than twenty times over the past ten years, by people who say it is the premier commentary on the FE conundrum. That dynamic is why Brian O said that the people who make FE happen will be new to the field:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new
But even Brian was buds with that libeler, and it took Brian a while to really figure out that few people in the FE milieu had the right stuff. That lack of integrity amongst the current FE players is a big part of why we don’t have FE today, but the general public receives the vast majority of the “credit” for this situation, not Godzilla and his minions, not the greedy and naïve tinkerers, and not the FE scoundrels.
Good night,
Wade
CdnSirian
18th February 2012, 04:55
Regards to your wife for hanging in...and to you for your unrelenting attendance to this thread and for sharing your experience with us. l appreciate your repetition of what you are trying to create. A way out of this mess. I confess that I listen to a couple of channeled persons. I am not an engineer or a scientist of any kind, and I have never been a person of strong faith in the entity called God. So out of the flotsam and jetsom of 'new thought', I have chosen a voice or two to follow, both of which say "it's all in your hands".
Like yourself I did experience significant mystical experiences that tunes a person into other powers. We who follow this thread are not taking the flack with you (or your wife). Yet on a totally flakey sounding level, I sense we try to absorb some of that for you, in that other dimension. I hope so.
sandy
18th February 2012, 06:09
Hi Wade,
Well how you do it all and stay up beat for the most part is a marvel to me but I'm sure your lovely partner could give us an ear full.
:)
Please give her my understanding and warm regards as I'm sure like us she would like more of you time. Sure hope you have relocated or at least have found new digs and that stress is off the plate.
Hey CdnSirian I don't think what you say is "flaky" at all ! :)
Billy
18th February 2012, 13:00
Hi Billyji:
I would not forget something like the 70% plan. There are lots of plans out there, but the 70% plan is one of the most beautiful that I have seen. That is cool that you refer to Brian O as simply O’Leary, kind of like saying Einstein and Newton. If his name becomes widely known in that way, we will have turned the corner.
It obviously gets into esoterics, and my work does, too. The holistic perspective of it is obviously important, and I naturally am going to like the indigenous aspect of it. I always emphasize energy over money, as one is real and the other is imaginary.
Keep it up,
Wade
Hi wade my Brother Sunfeather who created the 70% plan has just joined Avalon. I know you and him will get along like two pees in a pod as they say.
Regards Billyji
Sunfeather
18th February 2012, 13:16
Thank you Wade for your supportive comments re the 70% Plan. I remain committed as ever to the solution potential of free energy and the vast spectrum of arenas influenced from the geo-political to the ethical and multi-dimensional. The plan is available on my websites and I thank billyji for posting the solution site link. I hope that we make a good connection now that I am here, and can collaborate in mutual service for free energy awareness.
Wade Frazier
18th February 2012, 13:46
Hi:
Thanks for helping to absorb the energies. :)
Yes, Sandy, I am just a human doing this. Everybody I know who has played the game at the high levels in significant ways does not want to be doing it, but we heard the call, and have a hard time turning our backs on it. We all have our human foibles, we have all had bouts of ego, we have all had the crap kicked out of us, and we all, to one extent or another, have accepted our fates. This is my life’s work. I don’t know who sent me or why, and I have not always been a happy camper on this path, not by any means, but I could not just give up, either. All the people I know like me gave up lucrative careers, risked our lives, in many ways, and I have been burying my fellow travelers over the years. Their paths shortened their lives, which were usually wrecked, in the standard sense of the word, but they have all moved on with no regrets, happy that they had the chance to right the ship.
I am unusual on this path in that I have moved back-and-forth between the worlds. I have a well-paying, corporate career, and I am not doing any Earth-raping or building bombs. I don’t know what all that voice in my head had in mind when it told me to study business:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice
but it has not been a dull journey, although my highest aspiration is to grow old puttering in my garden with my wife, and hiking in the mountains for as long as I can.
One thing that I decided and stuck with long ago was to not seek any compensation for my FE efforts. I have seen how limiting and damaging the money game can be on this path. When you are trying to make money to keep the effort going forward, all sorts of compromises happen. I see it all the time with the contenders and pretenders out there. They don’t really tell the bald truth, because they are playing to an audience that they rely on for money and support. It can be a slippery slope to irrelevance, as you try to please your audience. The truth will set us free, not comforting fictions and ideologically-shaped “facts.”
I have mentioned many times that I have patience issues, which a channel told me long ago:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading
I get patience training every day, which I suppose is a good thing. Getting handed that disinformation essay about Dennis all the time is part of my training:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel
and all of those prominent people who lie about Dennis as they attack him will one day reap what they sow. The mud they fling hits me, too. Just yesterday, I was thinking about publicly calling some of them out, but decided against it. I don’t want to get into battles with them (they have already demonstrated the level of their integrity, so I know they won’t play fair).
Hi Billyji: Sunfeather is most welcome to be here.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
18th February 2012, 14:28
Welcome Sunfeather. We will see how this all plays out. Not many holistic plans out there, especially those that have energy as a central issue. I see it as the lynchpin for all of it, and so does Godzilla. :) When more can see it, maybe we can get some momentum going.
Best,
Wade
Sunfeather
18th February 2012, 15:25
Hi Wade,
Good to be here and connect. I am very grateful for your response to the 70% plan, writing it was an extremely intense process over a nine month period. I was already engaged in work specific to an intent to present new (free) energy into a public arena. I surrendered a seventeen year personal journey with medicine wheel teaching through my personal recognition and growing conviction that new energy presented the greatest potential catalyst for change in a world that desperately needs it.
The medicine journey gave me an experiential perspective of the value of the void, (as also the understanding of female power as womb power, and intimate to the nature of the void). To appreciate the vast resource of energy held within the void as the pure essence of abundance, and to recognize the affect of zero and infinity to contemporary scientific modalities impacted me deeply. In the work for new energy, I was given to sit down and consider the arenas in life that would require change for this transformation to grow within the collective. Writing the plan shocked me to recognize the appalling strategies of 'Godzilla', as you say.
To date there have been over 30,000 downloads of the plan via my website (http://www.gfc.uk.net) and I have been touched to witness some arenas of impact. Personally, I'd like to re-write it with more focus on the positive developments, as apposed to highlighting the dysfunctions. Billyji mentioned that the new site is a re-working of the plan, well, not quite, but it is a vehicle for the vast fields of awareness that the whole process has opened up. Similar to writing the plan, it was another period of almost obsessive compulsive application towards empowering, or accelerating, or catalysing the transformation process that is taking place.
This last patriarchal age is in entropy, (inevitable by it's own scientific frame). The Patriarchs have not been happy about the void (womb) for a long time, the value of beauty and one-heartedness is the tap-root of aesthetic and therefore ethic and morality that will be required by the void for fruition of this endeavour, I feel sure. It saddens me to see events in the new energy arena that squabble for market place, and the extensive array of 'new energy' association to renewables, and the blinkered madness of UN, EU, US + drive for Agenda 21, fracking targeting the Caspian region, etc. As you have expressed in posts above. I got on this some time ago, and now, I will not give up. I sincerely hope that the momentum gets going... After all, once scarcity is relieved and abundance becomes natural state, then our world will express beyond the stretch of current imagination.
Thanks again for your supportive comments, and I look forward to sharing and inspiring future pathways to make it so.
Be Well,
Sunfeather
Wade Frazier
18th February 2012, 16:47
Hi:
I made the first negative visions post.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=430811&viewfull=1#post430811
More will be coming. I am off to start my busy weekend.
Hi Sunfeather.
Thanks for some of the background of your journey. Nice to see you getting some traction.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
18th February 2012, 22:16
Whoops! I posted this one to the wrong thread...
WhiteFeather
18th February 2012, 22:42
Hi Wade,
Good to be here and connect. I am very grateful for your response to the 70% plan, writing it was an extremely intense process over a nine month period. I was already engaged in work specific to an intent to present new (free) energy into a public arena. I surrendered a seventeen year personal journey with medicine wheel teaching through my personal recognition and growing conviction that new energy presented the greatest potential catalyst for change in a world that desperately needs it.
The medicine journey gave me an experiential perspective of the value of the void, (as also the understanding of female power as womb power, and intimate to the nature of the void). To appreciate the vast resource of energy held within the void as the pure essence of abundance, and to recognize the affect of zero and infinity to contemporary scientific modalities impacted me deeply. In the work for new energy, I was given to sit down and consider the arenas in life that would require change for this transformation to grow within the collective. Writing the plan shocked me to recognize the appalling strategies of 'Godzilla', as you say.
To date there have been over 30,000 downloads of the plan via my website (http://www.gfc.uk.net) and I have been touched to witness some arenas of impact. Personally, I'd like to re-write it with more focus on the positive developments, as apposed to highlighting the dysfunctions. Billyji mentioned that the new site is a re-working of the plan, well, not quite, but it is a vehicle for the vast fields of awareness that the whole process has opened up. Similar to writing the plan, it was another period of almost obsessive compulsive application towards empowering, or accelerating, or catalysing the transformation process that is taking place.
This last patriarchal age is in entropy, (inevitable by it's own scientific frame). The Patriarchs have not been happy about the void (womb) for a long time, the value of beauty and one-heartedness is the tap-root of aesthetic and therefore ethic and morality that will be required by the void for fruition of this endeavour, I feel sure. It saddens me to see events in the new energy arena that squabble for market place, and the extensive array of 'new energy' association to renewables, and the blinkered madness of UN, EU, US + drive for Agenda 21, fracking targeting the Caspian region, etc. As you have expressed in posts above. I got on this some time ago, and now, I will not give up. I sincerely hope that the momentum gets going... After all, once scarcity is relieved and abundance becomes natural state, then our world will express beyond the stretch of current imagination.
Thanks again for your supportive comments, and I look forward to sharing and inspiring future pathways to make it so.
Be Well,
Sunfeather
Thanks for that above link Sunfeather Re: Green Fibre Comm., i have just read a few pages of the 70% Pdf. Awesome Material Here. Your a great compliment to this community, Avalon and Planet Earth. Wanishi
WhiteFeather
18th February 2012, 23:16
Welcome Sunfeather. We will see how this all plays out. Not many holistic plans out there, especially those that have energy as a central issue. I see it as the lynchpin for all of it, and so does Godzilla. :) When more can see it, maybe we can get some momentum going.
Best,
Wade
Hey Wade, Just a thought here, Consciousness as a key collective will play a major role on this planet for shifting to the FE spectrum, this I'm sure of. And many are in the proverbial vortex of the source field thinking it collectively. So Lets start tilting it our way. What we think, we become. Your work Is Outstanding, and i applaud you whilst standing up. Wanishi. ≈W.f.≈
Wade Frazier
19th February 2012, 17:23
Hi White Feather:
Consciousness is the key, but this is also a conundrum like no other. In a nutshell, here is what I am trying to help people understand.
Energy runs the world and always has:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
and it is no different for the human journey, and humanity’s energy surplus has formed the defining foundation of every civilization:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
But energy has never truly been abundant, because humanity has always burned through its energy sources, whether it was the easy meat:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5
Forests, soils, whales:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling
and so on. Today, it is fossil fuels, and we are beginning to reach the bottom of that well:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#fossil
it is now looking like Peak Oil may have been reached several years ago, and we are on the plateau before the steep slide to empty, which will happen in my lifetime if we don’t embrace new energy sources.
Many “primitive” societies had sustainable civilizations, primarily because they did not go down the path of metallurgy and more effective paths of manipulating the environment to wrench energy out of it. Anthropologists argue that it was because they had not yet developed the social organization and technological prowess to do so (in some cases, because there were not draft animals available), and their arguments are not easily dismissed.
No matter if those civilizations did not “progress” like the Fertile Crescent ones did due to some other reason, no civilization has ever been energy abundant. Energy scarcity is the foundational assumption of all dominant ideologies:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
But it is an invisible assumption to the vast majority of people. Similarly, energy abundance and what could come with it has proven to be virtually impossible for people to imagine. If they ever hear of energy abundance, more than 99% have reactions of instant denial, of varying levels of sophistication.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
For the tiny fraction that gets past denial, they have other unproductive reactions, which are all rooted in fear:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5
The hyper-elites who rule the world can only play their games with the responsibility that has been abdicated by the masses as everybody plays the victim. The victim mentality is rooted in fear, and overcoming it is the big challenge of living in physical reality.
Fear and scarcity are mutually-reinforcing conditions, and the hyper-elites control free energy and related technologies:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
and the organized suppression of those technologies is so the hyper-elites can stay in control. They have quite a bag of tricks to keep anybody from mounting successful efforts to develop and distribute such technologies.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic
Promoting and enforcing those scarcity-based ideologies is perhaps their primary triumph, as it keeps abundant energy and its transformative potential unimaginable to nearly 100% of humanity.
To those who can imagine it and pursue it, the hyper-elites’ escalating tactics have proven to be 100% effective in keeping those technologies out of the public’s hands. Godzilla is not the only predator in the jungle, however. He is only the biggest, and all large energy interests play the same game, although at lower levels of commitment and sophistication:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#godzilla
But, the people trying to develop and market those disruptive technologies actually do most of the suppression work for Godzilla and his minions, as they are their own worst enemies and they destroy their own efforts due to their personal foibles, which are almost exclusively rooted in fear and scarcity. Many pitfalls await the aspirants:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
and virtually none of them can navigate those pitfalls and the organized suppression efforts of the local energy interests. Godzilla rarely needs to roll out of bed. The crux of the conundrum is that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
which is the lesson that I resisted the longest on my journey and the lesson that almost nobody really wants to acknowledge. We are the enemy, not Godzilla. But while everybody lives in fear and thinks like a victim, they either live in denial or blame Godzilla for our problems. He is only a symptom, not a cause. On my journey, I came to realize that fear was the problem and love was the answer.
Even though I was just a spear carrier to the only person in the world that I know of who can successfully complete this application:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany
my journey is also hard to believe, with a voice in my head guiding me:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2
and events with seemingly divine intervention when it was the darkest:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it
My journey radicalized me, and ever since 1990, all of my “spare” time, and several years of unpaid, full-time effort has been devoted to understanding how the world really works, not how we are indoctrinated into believing it works:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded
While a hundred heroes, the kind who can successfully complete that application, can bring those breakthrough technologies to the world, those heroes either do not exist or cannot all be collected and focused on this issue of epochal importance:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes
So, I eventually decided to take another path. I realized that those breakthrough technologies, with free energy chief among them, are simply unimaginable to the masses today. They will begin to understand when free energy is delivered to their homes:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli
The masses are completely in the thrall of their conditioning, and more than 95% of them do not even want to wake up. I understand them and do not try to engage them. I played those games with my former partner, and those efforts always ended disastrously.
For the relative few who are awake or awakening, few of them have any scientific training, which is probably required to see the big picture of how the world really works. I eventually came to learn that my approach was like Bucky Fuller’s. He was one of the world’s earliest comprehensive thinkers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
Once that I understood that I was a comprehensive thinker, I became more consciously comprehensive in my thinking, and all I am really trying to do with my efforts anymore is to help people develop comprehensive thinking processes:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
because once they do, they can see that energy is the root of the human journey and life on Earth:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
they will be better able to see the forest from the trees, and they may be able to shed their scarcity-based indoctrination:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance
That can all seem like no big deal, to just get people to imagine abundance, but it really has virtually never happened, other than a few voices in the wilderness here and there, and if they are ever very effective, Godzilla then intervenes.
Virtually all previous attempts have failed because people get wrapped up in the fearful aspects of this issue, and fall down into the pitfalls of conspiracism:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
Young Warrior delusions:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors
Inventor-itis:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
and so on. Fear is the problem, and love is the answer. In the physical world, the primary manifestation of love will be ensuring that everybody’s basic needs are met. Everybody deserves to have enough food, water, shelter, education (true education, not indoctrination) and the like that they need. In a world of abundance, that is feasible, and with free energy and the related technologies kept under wraps by Godzilla, everybody can have all of their needs met with very little human effort, and also in a way where there is no harm to Earth’s ecosystems. Virtually nobody can even imagine that, as they instantly dismiss it all as “too good to be true,” the organized suppression as a “conspiracy theory,” and the many other reactions of denial:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
The denial, the diving into the pitfalls, the conspiracism, the epidemic lack of personal integrity, the seemingly infinite stupidity of the masses – these are all rooted in fear. Love is the answer and always has been, and in ways that are not obvious to the casual observer:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest
In the end, I am not looking for heroes. I am looking for sentient lambs. Godzilla is taking notice of my efforts, but for now he just watches. Nobody has ever tried to get what I call a lamb stampede going before. I also call it the Level 12 choir:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
My hope is that several thousand people can learn to sing the abundance song, and it may well have harmonic effects that can get enough people to focus on the issue so that it can overcome humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression. Even though only a tiny fraction of humanity would be needed to initiate this greatest epochal shift in the human journey so far:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
it would be humans doing it, so I think that it would be in keeping with the “Prime Directive” which is not just a Star Trek idea. I have already had a little help from my “friends,” but they stay in the shadows, popping into my head when asked, but it will be the job of people living on Earth, today, to initiate that shift. Because of the carnage that I saw on my journey, I am also trying to do this in a way that people are not risking their lives. There are numerous free energy martyrs strewn across this battlefield, and there is an endless string of ambitious fools who think that they will dance across the minefield unscathed:
http://www.youtube.com/user/SpectrumRadioNetwork#p/c/BACC03E294B890CD/4/ZI39RzWxCOQ
and I don’t want to watch anymore. We don’t need any more martyrs to tell us how the land lies. I am trying to do something different, so radically different that almost nobody can even begin to understand what I am trying to do. Avalon is a friendly forum, with people who have broken away from the herd somewhat, but look at this thread and see all the times that I have had to repeat my message, as people cannot seem to or refuse to understand my message. So, it is clear to me that that I need to keep repeating my message so that it sinks in. It is great patience training for me:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading
which may be the primary hurdle that I am here to learn to navigate in this lifetime. I am getting a lot of opportunity to work on it. :)
While most of my understanding was just what I learned during my preposterous journey, I also have some stars to steer by, such as an example of what a society built on love looks like:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
and what a society built on fear looks like:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade
I vote for love. :)
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
19th February 2012, 17:37
Hello Wade, a little something that may help with your patience training.
Acquiring our scarcity based thinking and vision of life, I believe is mostly the result of a life time of repetition of the "wrong kind of stuff". I am aware of you, of the energy issue, of the possibility for abundance and yet I catch myself all too often thinking "in scarcity terms". It's just habit and it feels "natural" :).
So perhaps your repeated efforts are not in vain, and may in fact be required... It's so easy to forget and to lose focus for someone that did go through the meat grinder like you did, so we need this constant reminder, with sightly different wording every time so that we "re-wire" our brain, so that we challenge our belief systems and ideas about how the world works.
Wade Frazier
19th February 2012, 17:43
Yes Ilie:
We are indeed creatures of habit, and this scarcity-based awareness has been baked in so deeply over many thousands of years that it is almost universally considered human “nature.” I disagree. :)
Thanks for the chiming in,
Wade
Dennis Leahy
19th February 2012, 18:15
Yes Ilie:
We are indeed creatures of habit, and this scarcity-based awareness has been baked in so deeply over many thousands of years that it is almost universally considered human “nature.” I disagree. :)
Thanks for the chiming in,
Wade
Playing off of Ilie's idea and Wade's words, thinking in terms of scarcity is "human nurture."
Dennis
Dennis Leahy
19th February 2012, 19:04
Wade, can I ask a favor? I know you have done this, to a degree, in snippets... but could I ask you (when you have the time), to provide a verbose, prosaic, full visualization of free energy - zero point energy technology - being allowed to blossom in the world?
Maybe it is a big essay; maybe it is a book?
1.) R&D
I know that you (and Brian O'Leary) have stated that it will require maybe a few hundred million dollars worth of research and development for refining concepts (and that, of course, assumes that for some odd reason, Godzilla acquiesces to allowing FE to proliferate, but the faction of black-ops folks that already have it, still refuse to draw back the curtain.)
2.) Tooling-up
There will be a tooling-up phase for some cutting-edge manufacturing facility, (not unlike someone with the scope and level of high-tech manufacturing as Intel corporation has with computer CPU chips.)
3.) Manufacturing
There will be the actual manufacturing of devices. Allow me to hope aloud and insert my intent that this includes devices that are small enough and inexpensive enough to completely decentralize energy production. That is, a small generator for a car (even if the "car" quickly evolves into anti-grav "hovercraft" designed to hover above roads, for a start), and a small generator for a house. At the same time, I foresee that we also need to create some large, high-output generators - the kind of thing that would be necessary to supplant coal in a foundry, and the energy for an "incinerator" (for lack of a better word), that can take radioactive debris as well as man-made poisons and reduce them to hydrogen or helium, and for major desalination and pumping stations to get fresh water deep into parched inland areas. Maybe it would be wise (or maybe it would be self-defeating!) if large units were built that could be hooked-up to the existing electric grid - to provide clean power over the course of time (2 years? 5 years? 20 years?) that it will take to manufacture and distribute a few billion small units.
4.) Distribution
... and I would hope this would start in the poorest regions on Earth first.
5.) ?
6.) ?
7.) ?
I know you have already set yourself to numerous tasks in your writing, so it might be a while before you can get to it... but perhaps you can help shape my imagination, my ability to envision abundance, by sharing your vision not only of the ultimate state of abundance, but what you think the actual pathway to energy abundance will look like. Like a jazz musician, your vision can spur other visions that are not identical but are harmonious.
:~)
Dennis
Wade Frazier
19th February 2012, 19:44
Hi Dennis. Yes, I can do that, but yes, it will be a while. :)
The stages that you are referring to really are the easy part. Making FE on the technical end is really a common industrial process, but more on the high-tech end than making a car, for instance. Making the iPad was far harder than what it would take to get FE going, on the technical end. Those technical aspects really are the easy part. The hard part is getting to the stage where the resources can be brought together to do it. Not only does Godzilla strangle anything that gets that far along (nothing has come close to getting that far along), almost no effort ever makes it to the stage where Godzilla needs to lift a claw.
Also, devices that could be put into mass production tomorrow already exist in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
One of the messages that Brian had, and it was an important one, was the huge gulf between a tinkerer in his garage and what it would take to make an FE device market-ready. Bridging that gap is the hard part. Venture capitalists all look for the quick kill and do not want to fund early-stage research, which Brian was told in no-uncertain terms long ago:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#oleary
When an inventor approaches the money people or applies for a patent, he not only shows up on Godzilla’s radar, but he has also announced that he can be bought, because he is doing it for the money. That entire route of tinkering inventors, patents, raising money and the like has a three-foot-deep rut from the many thousands of people who have walked into that lair, and none have ever emerged. The “lucky” ones got the golden handcuffs:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff
Others had the USA’s government seize it using national security laws (more than five thousand of them that were patented, and the biggest fraction has been for energy-related technologies, I believe, have already met that fate), and the really persistent or unlucky ones got taken out with extreme prejudice:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make
I am a little leery of laying out that technical path, because it gets the gung-hoers all excited as they blithely rush off to their doom. I work in high tech and am familiar with R&D processes, but others are more familiar with them than I am. Really, the technical part is about as “simple” as making an iPad or other high-tech product. FE will bring in some other technical issues, however. For instance, the FE winner, which will likely be solid-state, such as what Sparky Sweet had:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet
will likely make the electric grid obsolete. All energy can be locally produced, forever, with no environmental impact. It can likely be scaled to power a starship if needed. There will still be a communication grid, and it could look like the Internet, but I know that there is plenty being kept under wraps that would make the future grid look a lot different than it does today. Also, anti-gravity is kept under wraps. With FE and anti-gravity, everybody can have a “car” that can easily travel the Earth, and souped-up models could easy travel in space. The technical issues have probably already been solved. Heck, I was just reading in Wired magazine this past week about how self-driving cars are already on the road, and are expected to be standard issue in cars by the end of this decade. So, the “nightmare” of the skies filled with colliding “cars” is only a fearful projection. That technical issue will be easily solved.
But, yes, Dennis, I can put it on my list of things to do. Perhaps somewhat paradoxically, I have been more focused on getting people past the denial that such technologies are possible, and getting them to focus on what the world could look like if such technologies were wisely implemented. I think that focusing on those two parts are far more important right now than the rather mundane technical process of developing the technology for market. It is kind of funny, but when I have broached the subject (which I have done only very rarely) with my superiors in the high tech field, and discuss all of the technology theft and suppression, they often go, “So what else is new?” :)
Best,
Wade
WhiteFeather
19th February 2012, 19:44
The HHO cell technology looks interesting. Looks like a promising technology for engines to be running off of water. We can build these at home and reap the benefits for ourselves. No need to bring it to Godzillas Realm. Eventually it can have a snowball effect.
Some Videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRCnSQA37Zs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU
They also Sell Complete Kits On Ebay.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1-Hydrogen-Generator-Browns-Gas-HHO-Cell-Water4Gas-Complete-Kit-Included-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqNHJDkE7zIDke(NBO-kZ3mGY!~~60_12.JPG
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350534199297?redirect=mobile
Wade Frazier
19th February 2012, 20:15
Before I go off to work, Dennis’s post inspired me to post something that I have posted before.
This was literally Dennis’s strategy:
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And when Mr. Professor and I pulled Dennis out of the water, he was missing a leg.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it
And like that knight in Monty Python’s Holy Grail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
Dennis’s first response upon rescue was, “Well, I still have another leg!” You have to see that to believe it.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
19th February 2012, 21:05
Hi:
I hope nobody is offended, but can somebody start an energy inventors’ thread? If I answer Dennis’s request on the nuts-and-bolts of building an FE device factory, it will be on that thread. Likewise, posts on Rossi, the latest garage tinkerer and the rest can be put there. The thrust of this thread is different.
Thanks,
Wade
Sunfeather
19th February 2012, 21:34
I also disagree that scarcity consciousness is human nature, it is the outcome of cultural inheritance of a people growing through evolutionary cycles which has been predominantly focused on survival.
The abdication of responsibility that Wade refers to in his text has been a powerful force across time administered by religion and work ethic which since the collective trauma of two world wars (which gave rise to the oil hegemony) has lost any relation to moral value. The evolutionary path mapped in Wades texts is very relevant, however we are at a threshold of evolution that bears reference to the past process that only facilitates appreciating how we got into such a mess.
One of the most shocking experiences of my personal journey was the day that the recognition dawned that 'new' means NEW. i.e. What will come will bear no relation to what is known. I feel that the pitfalls we all are prone to is born of attempting to accommodate change within the context of the current, where the current process of human evolution is radically new. The description of the world of our inheritance comes from religious claim of authority of spirit and scientific claim of authority of matter. So much of what human consciousness is attempting to assimilate is that spirit and matter are unified in human beings in a manner that empowers self authority in an individual. The individual self has culturally been subject to external authority in religion, science, education, ruler-ship and so many other ways. In fact the description of correctness is pinned to being receivers of survival means. This is widespread today, be it welfare or charity or financial bailouts.
The leaden weight of the scarcity and survival fear exerts a toll of inertia against the willingness to fully assume the Self Authority required to command the choice for a better world. Our determination to be accountable individually includes that we be prepared to
rise above the self-abandonment we inflict upon ourselves by submitting our Individual Sovereignty to any external authorities.
That "personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity" is not surprising as integrity is the first sacrifice when abandoning self and while we can blame, judge and condemn the unethical behaviour of external authorities, to do so only keeps us from any hope of reclaiming our own integrity.
The collective remains extremely vulnerable to emotive manipulation because it remains largely within child motivation with need for approval (adequate salary/wage = you're doing well), recognition (status/credit = you're worthy), security (mortgaged property = slave to usury = security of living) and acceptance (correct social attitudes within a spiritual/religious standard).
Authority was stolen from people at the point of the blade once we learned to smelt metals. Now we have mutually assured nuclear destruction and despotic abuse of covert new energy and anti-gravitic development by authorities that seek to maintain domination. However, the very science that brought us to this is bound in the closed system laws of thermodynamics and the structures it has created are indeed entropic. The financial system of the elites has fallen apart and they know change is here. Truth Amnesty worked in healing Apartheid and will likely be required in coming days. However, the greatest challenge we face is to embrace maturity in reclaiming individual authority for our choices through this evolutionary process.
Ancient Greek sciences embraced Infinity and Zero, fundamentals of new energy science. They also appreciated aesthetics. They maintained that wisdom was brought to human consciousness through energy transfer. This transfer of information energy was held to occur through musical harmonics and beautiful thought forms that resonated as part of the functioning of an Infinite universe. Would access to the energy of the void not also be a process of energy transfer? It is this perceptual grasp that is the foundation of ethics and morality. It is fruitless to approach the unethical for ethical solution. Therefore the delivery of new energy and all other transformative solutions will emerge from those who, through their personal choice to enhance their reality, cultivate an intent for a better world and discover security of self on one planet in a Universe of billions of Galaxies that is clearly abundant in its manifestations. Scarcity is the antithesis of this reality.
It is for this purpose that I have created the GFC Network (http://www.solution.gfc.uk.net). Formative, yes, but also my process to this end has met Wade's application criteria. It is for us all.
aranuk
19th February 2012, 22:19
Hi:
I hope nobody is offended, but can somebody start an energy inventors’ thread? If I answer Dennis’s request on the nuts-and-bolts of building an FE device factory, it will be on that thread. Likewise, posts on Rossi, the latest garage tinkerer and the rest can be put there. The thrust of this thread is different.
Thanks,
Wade
I have started one named Energy Inventors. Your wish was my command.
Stan
Wade Frazier
19th February 2012, 22:23
Well said, Sunfeather:
Yes, the historian’s ideal is to look at all events as “historically contingent,” which means that at each stage on the past, the decisions and outcomes were just some of the possibilities, and that the way that we arrived at today was not the inevitable outcome, but just the one that happened. Many mystics would say that this is just one probable reality of many, and the decisions of the past were made differently, and led to different outcomes. FE is a game changer like no other, so would be “new” in its strongest sense, which is why people have such difficulty even imagining it, even though it has existed on this planet for longer than I have been alive. Yes, the world that it can make possible is hard to imagine, and that is part of the problem, although I regard glimpses like Roads’s:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
as valid peeks into probable futures, and what we decide today leads us to where we end up. The world that I incarnate into in three hundred years might not be yours, but wouldn’t it be fun if it was? :)
I think that stealing authority predates humanity, as anthropologists who study the Great Apes have discovered. All social animals have this issue. Humans have just taken the game to new levels. I think that when humans became sedentary, the opportunities for stealing authority multiplied, and the increased ability to manipulate the environment (of which smelting metal was a part) led to new forms of social organization. Yes, “amnesty” for Godzilla must be a part of any plan with a prayer, and not just for strategic reasons, but because it is loving and enlightened. Godzilla wrecked my life, but I wish him no ill will.
This description of the human journey is my most succinct:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct
The fact that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity is both good news and bad. It also means that it would not take much manifested integrity to right the ship. But only a handful, at best, on Earth today play at this level:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany
so the hundred heroes model will not work at present, and the mass movement efforts succumb to the herd behaviors that you point out (acceptance, etc.). I am aiming for a middle ground, where my audience is awake and awakening, but they are not risking their lives. That route is a new one, and I have no idea if it will work, but I had to try.
Best,
Wade
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Thanks Stan! May the force be with you. :)
Dennis Leahy
20th February 2012, 01:16
Hi Dennis. Yes, I can do that, but yes, it will be a while. :)
The stages that you are referring to really are the easy part. Making FE on the technical end is really a common industrial process,
...
I am a little leery of laying out that technical path,
...
But, yes, Dennis, I can put it on my list of things to do. Perhaps somewhat paradoxically, I have been more focused on getting people past the denial that such technologies are possible, and getting them to focus on what the world could look like if such technologies were wisely implemented. I think that focusing on those two parts are far more important right now than the rather mundane technical process of developing the technology for market.
Best,
Wade
Hi:
I hope nobody is offended, but can somebody start an energy inventors’ thread? If I answer Dennis’s request on the nuts-and-bolts of building an FE device factory,
...
The thrust of this thread is different.
Thanks,
Wade
OK, I screwed up and didn't make my request clear. Allow me to try to rephrase my request.
I'm not looking for help in designing an FE device, or in laying-out an FE device factory, or even warehouse distribution work flow for getting the devices out the door..
You just smacked me up side the head with a "negative vision." (Henry, the survivalist, surviving.) I couldn't bring myself to hit the "Thanks" button, though I eventually will because, well, I know what you're doing (even though I personally don't want/need that medicine.) Steps 1 through 3 that I outlined are about as fleshed-out as they need to be. I'd love to read the vision of the first devices being delivered and installed in some of the poorest areas in the world, so starting with the step 4 in my outline would give a sense of that early part of the realization of the vision, which would be a mixture of trepidation and joy. Have you seen the stories of villages finally getting a drinking water well drilled in their area?)
I'm looking for the step(s) after manufacturing and before abundance throughout the Earth. The early stages of worldwide deployment, and how it immediately changes lives.
Maybe the movie "Mosquito Coast" is an example of the antithesis (bringing ice to remote equatorial natives proved to be harder than expected, and was not met as envisioned), but it is within the realm of the visionary narrative I'd like to read. The 25th year of FE abundance on Earth may not be extremely different than the 20th year, but that first year or two or five is going to be one hell of an adventure. I think it will help many people to break through to a vision of Earth-wide abundance, by "seeing" the early stages and "watching" the transformation. Does that make more sense? If not (or if you still think it is really a separate topic), by all means let's move this out of your thread.
Dennis
Wade Frazier
20th February 2012, 03:44
Hi Dennis:
I think I understand what you are asking better, and that is not all on you. :)
Big, great subject, and yes, a lot of thought has gone into that, but far less than what you would call a plan. I prefer to think of those stages in terms of the principles that we should be operating from. For instance, having the poor nations get it first is one way to go, but for the really poor ones, what that should really mean is instant pure water for everybody, plenty of healthy food for everybody, and shelter from the elements, but a lot of that will be short-term stop-gap measures. FE can make that happen quickly, but there are big issues with bringing FE to Angola, for instance. Most of what FE can do should probably be done in the industrialized nations first, because they have an infrastructure more conducive to it.
We can get into all the paternalistic, fake philanthropy that the USA has specialized in for a long time, even leaving aside Rockefeller, Carnegie and Gates, such as “helping” the American Indian:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#dawes
The Peace Corps is a tool of Empire:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm
as have been all of those European missionaries during the Colonial era:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra
and even today:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#neocolonialist
If I was a dark-skinned person whose starving nation shipped its food to the USA, I would be very skeptical of white people showing up with “The Answer.” Maybe FE won’t come from the West, but if it does, there is going to have to be one hell of a lot of real good deeds and genuine diplomacy coming from the “saviors” instead of the steady stream of more exploitation that the industrialized nations have inflicted on the non-industrialized for hundreds of years.
There are a vast number of other issues that also arise. For instance, in many poor nations, they never went through the landline experience of American communication systems, but went straight to wireless.
If the principles of love, honesty, transparency and the like guide the efforts, the solution is going to get figured out, but each nation is going to have a somewhat different experience and challenges. However, those are going to be fun problems to solve.
I’ll put this on my list, Dennis, and that will be somewhat fun to do, but yes, it will take a while.
Best,
Wade
sandy
20th February 2012, 03:53
Hi Dennis,
I started a thread on Nexus trying to do just that here and now. I'm hoping the members will take to it but so far it's been pretty slow. But that's okay as actions do speak louder than words and I will continue to take the lead from who ever posts and add onto it. So far we are at a community hall trying to create a list of community projects to get started on.
I too agree the transition period needs to be flushed out as being able to actually visualize or plan the steps of implementing Free Energy (once it is delivered :) ) will help others including myself to not only hold the space for FE but to sing the FE Frequency loud and clear and dismantle many ingrained beliefs of scarcity during the process.
Ilie Pandia
20th February 2012, 09:04
I'm looking for the step(s) after manufacturing and before abundance throughout the Earth. The early stages of worldwide deployment, and how it immediately changes lives.
Hi Dennis,
I know you've asked Wade but I decided to have a got at it too: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32475-Free-Energy-Transition-plans-for-Earth&p=431928&viewfull=1#post431928
Wade Frazier
20th February 2012, 14:18
Ilie, that was very cool.
Thanks,
Wade
Dennis Leahy
20th February 2012, 14:41
I'm looking for the step(s) after manufacturing and before abundance throughout the Earth. The early stages of worldwide deployment, and how it immediately changes lives.
Hi Dennis,
I know you've asked Wade but I decided to have a got at it too: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32475-Free-Energy-Transition-plans-for-Earth&p=431928&viewfull=1#post431928
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I needed that!
:~)
Dennis
Wade Frazier
20th February 2012, 15:58
Hi:
This one is for Ilie:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=432073&viewfull=1#post432073
Dennis does not need to read it, but the Level 5s do,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5
or those who are trying to understand the Level 5s. Heinberg is a level 5:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm
as are his neo-Malthusian pals (when they aren’t playing Level 3). Level 5 is the most common stage, if people get past the denial stages. The Level 3s usually say something like, “FE is against the laws of physics and tales of suppression are only conspiracy theories, but if FE was real, it would be the worst thing ever for humanity.” I have literally heard arguments like that.
I have a few more negative visions posts to write. Part of the point is to look at the negative visions. I don’t want to just make them parodies, but to show where the Level 5s are coming from. The themes of that post I just made are keeping right in line with the Level 5 nightmares, and if you are an American, that post is not so outlandish. I have seen elements of all of the situations in that post since 9/11.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
21st February 2012, 03:42
Today was my favorite day at Avalon, I think. I was laughing all day, and zenith’s post was the capstone:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=432120&viewfull=1#post432120
Truly classic.
Thanks,
Wade
jcocks
21st February 2012, 05:03
I've been pondering over the FE conundrum and our purposes (indeed your purpose) in it all.... And am now wondering if we're not so much working towards the unveiling of such technology as we are working towards the situation where we create an environment where, when it is revealed, the reaction is one of acceptance and welcoming rather than fear. Then the acceptance reaction will be so big that it will cancel out the fear-based reaction of Godzilla. The envirtonment will be such that Godzillas' actions to stop the unveiling will all amount to nothing.
Maybe that's the whole idea behind the level 12 approach - understanding that we cannot ourselves hope to introduce FE technologies to mankind, but we can work towards making mankind more accepting of such technologies, making the environment that much more conducive to those technologies.
On another note, I'm very pleased with the awareness that "e-cat" fusion devices are attaining around the place, it seems like perhaps there's a level of awareness being reached with the various approaches that it'll soon be such that godzilla won't be able to squash them? Or maybe fusion is the "free-energy" technology of choice for the PTB to release to the public? I find it especially interesting that someone with as high a profile (at least in Australia) as Dick Smith has enough belief in fusion that he's willing to pay us$1 million to see it working. If nothing else, it proves that he is open to the technology being able to work....
Wade Frazier
21st February 2012, 05:59
Hi jcocks:
Yes, the Level 12 game is mostly, perhaps solely, about making FE and what can come with it thinkable to more people. If more can just accept it in a framework of being real, it will help make it real. I know it is real, but I do not get to demonstrate it to anybody.
Maybe what I am doing is like what some have said is the big game with ETs, making them ubiquitous in the media so that when the time comes for Disclosure, there won’t be a War of the Worlds reaction. I am not sure that I buy that that is what I am doing or what they are doing, but it could be.
I just know that while FE and what can come with remains unimaginable, in the realm of crazed speculation if it is acknowledged at all, then we aren’t going to make a home for it in our hearts and minds.
Maybe that is what it this Level 12 game is about. I want to live to see real FE happen in my lifetime, I really do. Humanity may not be able to turn the corner without it. We are on the edge of the abyss on several fronts, and nothing could defuse the bomb like FE could, but as zenith says, maybe we go blow it up instead. :)
Nice post.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
21st February 2012, 15:40
Hi:
I might not have the time tomorrow, but I wanted to wish eaglespirit a happy birthday, which he shares with our Founding Kleptocrat:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint
You don’t see me write about current events all that much, mainly because with what I am trying to get going, the headlines are only noise. But, I predicted what happened several years ago with the financial meltdown:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#next
and I may update that page again before long. Contrary to the cheerleading in the media, leading indicators of the real economy are listing to port rather badly:
Such as the Baltic Dry Index:
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/540-baltic-dry-index-signals-renewed-market-collapse
Energy consumption:
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogfeb12/energy-consumption-dropping02-12.html
World trade volume:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/unprecedented-global-monetary-policy-world-trade-volume-craters (this is a different Tyler Durden than the one we all know and love :) )
and more America-centric metrics:
http://advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Pulse-of-Commerce-Index.php
and take all the unprecedented banking actions to keep things propped up, and it is looking dicey.
Europe’s financial woes are only beginning:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/europes-great-deleveraging-has-only-just-begun
In short, we ain’t out of the woods, not by a long shot, and when it is all based on burning up the primary resource a million times faster than it was created (or perhaps “only” ten thousand times as fast):
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#_edn6
then interesting times are on their way.
Going to race with the rats now….
Best,
Wade
sandy
23rd February 2012, 06:39
Hi Wade,
Too say interesting times are on the way is an understatement I think, as following global events today is nothing short of a confusing mind F*** let alone what is coming down the pike.
Tried something different at Nexus in asking for help to create a vision of the future under the pretext that FE Devices had been delivered to every ones door. The mods were asked to close the thread today by me as I might as well of been selling lead balloons as this is how the thread went over. THUD :)
I'm so tired of all the intellectual bantering everywhere, including here to be honest. I think we have another conundrum which lies in the safety of the Head thus reflects the fear of the Heart.
It takes courage and strength to know who you are and to share YOU from the heart. It takes "knowing" YOU to gain integrity and humility to not be caught up in intellect and ego. Thus, needles in haystacks are rare for sure and sad to say but I agree with you more and more each day.
We are not our gained knowledge on our journey we are our "experience" which makes us unique and at the same time part of the whole. When we can share our experience from the heart in our communication we will have found the common denominator to bring Humankind to the sentient energy level needed to create a world of abundance for all. LOVE can only be created from the Heart.
Disheartened but not down and out. Just assimilating my experience of finding open hearts who want to share from the value of this energy first and foremost to greatly add to the quality of the intellect.
Elly
23rd February 2012, 11:34
Oh Sandy, I'm quite surprised and saddened by what happened. Your heart is at the right place. Keep on sharing your great energy. The generosity coming through your posts is inspiring.
eaglespirit
23rd February 2012, 14:46
Hi Sandy...Thank You for Sharing...Openly from Your Very Own Heart!
There are Loving Souls around Mother Earth coming together in Spirit as never, ever before!
Indeed, needles in a haystack...or better, lone Spiritual Antennas by the mountainsides and lakesides and streamsides and prairies and plains all over Mother Earth...above and below...We are becoming one and the same!
This is the time for that Communication Connection to open wide and far..it IS taking hold Now!
Everything else but Love is going to look ridiculous as these coming days unfold...Everything!!!
And it is time to let it out and speak it up right in front of us!
All we can do is keep forging forward and connect with the next open unconditional loving heart and move on, next, next, next...all the other energies will swim or stagnate...it is up to them not us anymore!
Kudos to You!!!
Wade Frazier
23rd February 2012, 17:19
Hi:
I am working the crazy hours right now. I took a cab home after 1:00 AM this morning, and going back now for more of the same.
Sandy, my darling, there is nothing about this FE business that is easy, I am sorry to say. The frightened egos, the tunnel vision, the sword-fighting over stuff that does not amount to a hill of beans, the hacking at branches, the diving into the pitfalls – it is all part of the terrain. There is no theory behind what I write about, such as those needles in haystacks. There are not many to be found on Earth right now, but it won’t take many, either. I feel your pain and loneliness, keenly.
Let me tell you a little story. I have related when I was told that I helped melt down Atlantis, and was told by the same channel about a once-in-a-lifetime event that unexpectedly happened later the same day. This was more than twenty years ago, soon after I got clobbered in Ventura:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr
I have the tapes of many of my readings that I have had over the years, and one day, I will probably listen to those sessions with that archangel again (the channel only told me later that it was an archangel, the entity did not identify itself to me in that way). I had a few sessions with that channel, and cannot presently recall which session it came in, but I was told that I came from a soul group that helped plan Earth School. I don’t know if we were architects or what, but we had something do with preparing Earth, including getting her ready to host the “sentient” species known as humanity.
And helping to melt down Atlantis was my big f**k-up, and I spent most lifetimes since then in a sort of penance, blocking my spiritual abilities, because they had something to do with the meltdown. From what I have read about the end days of Atlantis, it seemed quite degenerate and I sure hope that I learned my lesson, and I think I did. It is all about love, and anything less is going to end badly. The archangel told me that I could stop flogging myself. The archangel also said that the members of my soul group all had a deep attachment to Earth, and as attachments go, it was not such a bad attachment. But we were all feeling this incredible pressure to get humanity over the hump, because Project Humanity was not going so well, and Earth is far more damaged today than when we knocked Earth off of its axis as we melted down Atlantis. The archangel said that we could lighten up a little, and that our days on the job were numbered, as we were about to retire and let the next generation take over.
I have no idea if any of that is true, but let’s just say that it resonated deeply, and sure seemed to explain a lot of my crazy journey.
At the beginning of my Camelot interview, Bill asked what drove me to pour so much of my life into this issue:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#mission
In the end, I don’t know why I have done it. Long ago, I had a long talk with Dennis about the Ventura days and what possessed me to sacrifice my life to spring him from jail:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it
and I said that I did not know why I did it. I just had to do it. If you asked me why I have spent the past twenty-plus years of my life performing the research and writing that became my site and why I post almost daily at Avalon, I am not sure that I could answer you, other than saying that I want to live in Heaven on Earth, and am trying an avenue that I have not seen tried before, and shooting my life on this effort seemed worth it to me.
I learned the hard way that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
and in the nearly twenty-five years since then, I came to realize how lonely the FE journey is. Brian O also remarked on it:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely
So, I can feel your pain, believe me. I have seen so many attempts to get something rolling, and all the eager aspirants who sallied forth. I have had to deal with many wrecked lives and shattered dreams in the aftermaths of their efforts. That has been one of the many sadnesses of the journey.
I have been told that my Achilles heel is impatience:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading
and I will buy that, and my public work is great training to extinguish that chief feature, but I am not nearly there yet. :)
Know that you are not alone, Sandy. This Internet connection stuff is far from ideal, but it allows people to connect who would have never heard of each other. But, if an FE gathering happens in the flesh these days, there are many of Godzilla’s agents and others with nefarious agendas who will be there to knock it off the rails. For now, this Avalon game is the safest course for all involved for my Lamb’s Strategy. I am going to work really hard to get that energy essay finished, and then I plan to raise my game to another level, and we will see how it goes.
There really do not need to be very many of us to get that Lamb Stampede going. :)
Off to work now.
Love,
Wade
P.S. Thanks Cara and eaglespirit for chiming in.
Ixopoborn
23rd February 2012, 19:09
Dear Wade - like Sandy, often I feel like a useless little porn in this process.
I am active in my own small way to help others become ready to accept the changes we want to create. This, I feel, is a role I can perform but impatience overtakes me a lot. I just wanted to let you know how proud it makes me feel to be loosely associated with you via Avalon. Your story is credible, balanced and does you credit.
When the dam of resistance breaks, change will come in a rush - deep down I know that.
I draw encouragement from your stamina to keep going but please do keep safe.
sandy
24th February 2012, 02:18
My Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Thank you for your kind words and love. It sure helps to refurbish the tank again as sometimes I think I run on fumes of energy but I will prevail.
Unlike you Wade, I am not too sure why I can't seem to stop trying to help the world in my small way. I was once told that I had paid all the Karma for my entire family this lifetime and maybe rightly so, therefore this life time is payback time and pay it forward time. :)
I'm deeply grateful and thank you all for sharing your "Hearts" and thoughts with me along with your encouraging words. I carry you in my heart and with the strength you give me I rise again to seek and find more hearts along our path of LOVE and ABUNDANCE for all.
It is not over till the fat lady sings and even though I'm kinda chunky, I'm no where near ready to call it quits. :)
CdnSirian
24th February 2012, 02:46
Wade and Sandy -- oh boy. Sandy, I have read some Nexus threads and they are (mostly) merciless on the positive. Not all mind you.
At our most spiritual level we can only ask that some may hear. Love.
Wade Frazier
24th February 2012, 08:53
Hi Ixopoborn:
Well met, and nice to hear from you. As long as I don’t get drug into the line of fire by gung-hoers, I should be fine. Where angels fear to tread, and all that.
Keep paying it forward, Sandy. :)
Hi CdnSirian:
Glad I gave you some “oh boy” reading today. :)
Going to bed now,
Wade
Wade Frazier
24th February 2012, 17:45
Hi:
I have to run off to work, but I wanted to give a little preview of a post that I might make this weekend. I have been reading a lot on evolution lately, and recently was reading up on Darwin. It is a familiar story, and I am going to generalize a little. As with Pasteur:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#investigating
Darwin was cruel, sought fame, plagiarized others, and the rest. In a world of scarcity, the ideal of science is lost in the rush for fame and riches. I have seen this many times in my researches. A great deal of textbook science has very little to do with the truth, but dogma that has hardened around various economic interests. That is so ironic.
More later.
Best,
Wade
sandy
25th February 2012, 05:38
Hi Wade,
Well just spent the entire day, approx. 10 hours digesting your Medicine Essay and have to say that my learning and time was well worth it. I also have to say that the appreciation I have for your investigations and writing can not be put into words as I recognize the few hours I put into reading your work has little or no impact on the time and effort you dedicate in service to humankind and our awakening.
I thoroughly enjoyed your anthropomorphic excesses and had a few chuckles in the visions I had of watching those "firemen" try to get to the fire to start diminishing the flames!!
Thank you also for the information on Naessens work as I wasn't aware of his presence here in Canada or the treatment he offers in building the immune system, (wink wink). I'm going to check this out more and hope he has a website to do so.
Although I have awareness as to the control and Godzilla dynamics of the medical industry for quite some time now I like how your Essay capsulizes the essence of the whole scheme. I say scheme because I believe it is all part and parcel of knowing what they are doing with the Global Controllers ultimate plan of total domination. Monsanto is just the latest public showing of what they have been doing for many years behind closed doors and I think they believe that the people are so stupefied now that they can sell us anything and we will believe it. Sad to say the majority do :(
I like your new Medical Paradigm too, however think it will only happen when enough people can create what Udraka quotes: The tongue may speak to the human ears, but souls are reached by souls that speak to souls.
Thank you for speaking to my soul :)
Wade Frazier
25th February 2012, 15:18
Hi:
Well, Sandy, that is a topical post, because I am going to write more on that subject matter today. That medical racket essay was originally written about twelve years ago.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm
An artist’s work is never done, and I look at some of my essays and really want to start over, but that essay has held up pretty well over the years, IMO. If I get that year off, that essay will get a makeover, but the basic thrust will stay the same. When I had my email address on my site, I heard from quite an array of people. I recall one man who worked in a medical facility, and he spent three days at work reading that essay instead of doing his job, and when he finished it, he got out of the field.
Yes, the medical racket is very much like the energy racket, and the radicalization of my days with Dennis made the paradigm shift that allowed me to write that essay. I have written that I hired a professional editor after I completed the second version of my site, and her red pen was the writing lesson of my “career” so far. She had her personal paradigm shift about two-thirds of the way through editing that medical essay. One of her sons is an MD, but she reached an emotionally-overwhelmed state about two-thirds of the way through, and the clouds parted for her and she “got it.”
A close relative was the CEO of a pharmaceutical conglomerate, and he read at least part of that essay, and did not scoff.
The microscopes of Rife:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
and Naessens:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens
are as banned from the halls of orthodoxy as FE and anti-gravity are. They are disruptive technologies that upset the rackets, and also point to radically different dynamics of life and how the universe works. FE and anti-gravity are put under deep wraps, but Naessens’s scope is still around. An agent for the medical racketeers stole the prism that made Rife’s scope work, and on EBay recently some guys were selling the prism-less Rife scope for $250K. The fates of Rife and Naessens, and how studiously mainstream science and medicine ignores those microscopes and their findings, is a prime example of what a disaster and fraud the mainstream is.
But the post I was planning on writing today is more wide-ranging and paradigmatic. In the end, it is the love/fear dichotomy, and how frightened egos operate in a world of scarcity.
If you study world religions, Jesus and Buddha were the two figures that really stood out. When the Infinite Spirit manifested through them, those around them did not ask who they were, but what they were. They operated on a plane of being that baffled the observers, in a good way. But both of them challenged the religious orthodoxies of their day, and neither one of them wanted to be worshipped as the basis of organized religions, but here we are, with both men the subjects of more statues and artwork than anybody else who ever lived. They both would cringe to see what happened in their names, and neither left behind any “sacred” writings, so they sure could not have believed in sacred writings much, but look at what we have, with all the “holy” writings, sacred images and the like. Being an example for people to follow is vastly different than being worshipped. One perspective treats us all as equals, and its primary message is we are all one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age1
The other elevates them above the rest of us mere mortals, and encourages hero-worship, and puts the power in them, not us. One is love-based, and the other is fear-based. And we have elaborate social mechanisms that subtly enforce the fear-based paradigms, and almost everybody at least half-consciously signs up, because if you play for the winning team, material and egocentric rewards are promised. As you might imagine, I have had to put up with my fair share of hero-worship, and I always discourage it. When I have been hero-worshipped, it always ended badly. I came to realize that worshipping me like some hero was due to the worshipper’s ego trip, not mine (although I certainly have my personality issues :) ), and whenever somebody put me on a pedestal, they also later would knock me off of it. It was their ego process operating, and it was not fun to be the target of it.
This dynamic of creating heroes to worship is one of the endemic problems of civilization, as people operate from the victim’s perspective, not a creator’s. Most of heroes that I was raised to admire were mass-murdering thieves, from Columbus:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm
to Washington:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint
to Serra:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra
That hero-worship of the scoundrels is also rife in science, and the scientific establishment sits on as rickety a foundation as the organized religions do, and the scientific establishment operates very similarly to how organized religion does, with its fake saints, its heretic punishment, and in the end, it is all about keeping the coffers filled. So it is, in a world of scarcity. The materialism of science has led to most of its evils. I had the materialist conceits of science blown away with my mystical awakening when I was sixteen:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown
and Brian O had his mystical awakening while performing the exact same exercise:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#oleary
as have millions of other people. For anybody who makes a little effort, the materialistic foundation of the scientific establishment is easily proven to be false. Ever since I was about nineteen, I saw the battle between the Creationists and the Evolutionists as the battle between the Baby Souls and the Young Souls:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age1
According to Michael, the Baby and Yong Soul stages are just part of a soul’s journey. At those stages, the soul is focused outward, not inward. Baby Souls consider something like the Silva Method:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva
and all things mystical to be the Devil’s work, while Young Souls regard it all as inane and pointless, unless they can somehow turn it into fame and money. The Baby and Young souls' “fragments” do not have access to their souls as readily as the older soul fragments do, who are more focused internally. The Baby Soul gravitates to organized religion because the only way that it can access that inner light is via herd behaviors, as they fleetingly attain a sort of group high. The Young Soul gets off on achievement and winning. The apex of the Young Soul stage of a species’ evolution is when they are in the most danger of destroying their home planet, by either ecological destruction or warfare, and we are on that cusp right now, which is the biggest transition that any species makes, as it is the cusp between the outer and inner journey. We have not turned the corner yet and still may crash and burn, and that is another reason why FE has the monumental importance that it does, and why it is suppressed by Godzilla like it is.
But I wanted to deal a little specifically on the folly of Western science and how it comports itself like an organized religion. The ideal of science, which is the scientific method, is like the ideal of free markets or democracy. They are all like unicorns; they have never really been seen before, but they are fascinating ideas.
The rise of science and reason in the West was in large measure a reaction to the excesses of the Catholic Church in Europe. From Copernicus to Galileo to Descartes to Newton, their deep influence by the Christian church, and their strategic efforts at times to avoid the wrath of church hierarchies, sent science in directions that it has yet to recover from. Galileo and Newton specifically couched their astronomy in math to make them less susceptible to attacks by the religious authorities, and made science more obscure than it needed to be, hiding behind mathematics.
And the rise of science was as ego-ridden as any endeavor, especially in a civilization that began to exalt greed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#todorov
Newton engaged in grotesque efforts to gain precedence over Leibniz for the invention of calculus. The history of science is filled with plagiarism, theft, rivalries, and jockeying for position. And in the rush for fame and fortune, the ideal of science has been trampled all-too-often, and perhaps fatally.
The scopes that Rife and Naessens invented not only achieve “impossible” optical resolutions that not only defy optical theory, but the life processes that those scopes can see overturn the basics tenets of microbiology and the founding theories of life itself. Rife’s scopes are nearly a hundred years old! Naessens’s scopes are nearly that old, too, and look at the treatment they have received at the hands of mainstream science. They are ignored when they are not being attacked and libeled. It is beyond scandalous; it is evil.
As a group, I am not sure that I have met a more dishonest bunch than the “skeptics,”
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends
who supposedly speak out on behalf of science and reason. How ironic. Being slimed by one of the leading “skeptics” was educational:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#warning
But that institutional dishonesty is not really one big conspiracy, IMO, but is just more of the same in a world of scarcity. My jury is still out on Mr. Skeptic and whether he is on the payroll. It could be that when he committed his criminal libel against Dennis:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest
he was just trying to make a name for himself as a “skeptic,” and lying attacks are unfortunately how most of the “skeptics” earned their stripes. You really have to see it to believe it.
But I wanted to just go a little more into some of the background of the heroes of science, and show what they had in common. In typical Young Soul fashion, early on, contests were staged by leading scientific bodies to determine scientific truth. That is no way to conduct science, but that stuff regrettably persists even today, with the Nobel Prize. In one of the science books I recently read, it was admitted that winning a Nobel was the goal of every beginning scientist, being literally dangled in front of every promising student by the professors. I was a science prodigy and an accounting prodigy, and I had that experience with my teachers and professors, who believed that I was destined for great things. Nurturing those kinds of goals is detrimental to a pursuit of the truth.
In the battles over the origin of life, contests were staged for the most promising theories:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rigged
and Pasteur prevailed in the rigged proceedings. Pasteur sought fame and fortune above all else, and arguably set the biological sciences and much of Western medicine on a false foundation. Orthodox training is about indoctrination as much as it is “learning.” Pasteur was a chemist, not a biologist. Similarly, Charles Darwin was a geologist, not a naturalist so much, and there is plenty of evidence that he “borrowed” heavily from his peers and predecessors, including his grandfather. Like his contemporary Pasteur, Darwin was exceedingly cruel to animals. Darwin lived to hunt and kill animals, even becoming expert at killing rabbits with thrown rocks, and like the Spaniards who joyously slaughtered animals for the sheer sport of it, when they discovered animals on a Caribbean island that did not fear people:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#welcome
Early in Darwin’s epic voyage on the HMS Beagle, when he came to an island in the middle of the Atlantic where the birds did not fear people, Darwin eagerly killed them with his geology hammer (FitzRoy’s book mentions Darwin’s vigorous killing):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_voyage_of_HMS_Beagle#Atlantic_islands
Pasteur was cruel to animals, and even advocated human experiments on prisoners:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#prisoners
Darwin very consciously promoted evolution as a replacement for organized religion. He wanted to replace Creationism with Materialism. IMO, calling modern evolutionary theory "evolution" is a misnomer; it is materialism. Evolution does not have to be materialistic, but the fatal flaw of establishment science is its materialism. White Science is materialistic, but Black Science sure isn’t. Godzilla knows that the materialistic foundation of White Science is false, but keeping science on a materialistic foundation allows it to be easily manipulated for evil purposes.
But the scientific establishment is dominated by atheists, those Young Soul materialists. As an example, arch-atheist Richard Dawkins was once hooked up to the God Helmet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet
and perhaps predictably, his brain had no reaction to it at all. A Young Soul is not going to have much talent or interest in looking inward, and people like Dawkins, with his “blind watchmaker” theories of evolution, are the epitome of Young Soul scientists.
But my point here is not to rant on the personal foibles of the “great,” but to instead point out that the scientific establishment’s hero-worship of its dubious icons has served to stunt what science is capable of. Pasteur’s theories are very likely false, in a highly deadly way that may be responsible for the premature deaths and suffering of millions, arguably far worse than Morris Fishbein’s gangster activities when he was the autocrat of medicine:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
However, the failings of those icons do not lend credibility to the vast trove of alternative theory that abounds today. Most fringe science is not valid, either. There is a great deal of charlatanry on the fringes. A great deal of the charlatanry is not what the “skeptics” would have you believe that it is, just all hoaxes and hucksterism, although plenty of that happens. What seems to be more common is that a valid aspect of fringe science gets seized on and used to garner some fringe practitioner fame and fortune. I wrote an essay on this quandary that the layman faces:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm
It can be bewildering. What the mainstream hero-worship and false foundation stuff has in common with the fringe game is that in a world of scarcity, everybody tries to carve out their niche and maintain it, and the pursuit of truth gets lost in the race for self-service and a full belly. That is also the crux of the FE conundrum:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm
The common thread that I have seen, ever since my radicalization opened my eyes, is that fear is the problem and love is the answer, always. For societies that pursue, even exalt, fear-based dynamics, they are heading toward a reality like this:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade
and those that operate from love are heading toward a reality like this:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
I know the one that I prefer. Once you develop a trained eye, the false foundations of most mainstream disciplines are pretty easy to spot. But almost nobody wants to, keeping in line with the primary lesson of my journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
It is all related, intimately. My upcoming energy essay is intended for people who are trying to understand better how the world really works, in a nuts-and-bolts way. When people develop a comprehensive perspective, energy comes to the front of their awareness. Energy runs the world and always has:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
and FE, if enough of us can overcome humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, will mean the dawn of an epoch that will dwarf everything that has happened before:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
FE and the related suppressed technologies mean that humanity can travel the stars, we can live harmlessly on Earth, and practical abundance can be everybody’s birthright:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm
But it is not going to fall into our laps. Enough of us have to want it, and not because it will bring us fame and fortune, although that could be a byproduct of our efforts, but because it is the loving and enlightened thing to do.
I have a long and busy weekend ahead of me, but wanted to get that post up.
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
25th February 2012, 19:02
Re the medical racket: I was very fortunate years ago to have medical and ex-medical doctors guide me through the swap meet of alternative medicine to treat a lethal disease. Yet not one of them had heard of Naessens, and he is practically in their backyard. That was a surprise for me when I read your essay last year.
Rife machines are everywhere but I have not heard of anyone having great success with them. Which leads me to suspect they are not the real deal.
Thanks Wade and all above.
Wade Frazier
25th February 2012, 20:34
Hi CdnSirian:
When somebody pioneers breakthrough technology like Rife did, you really need him in the process. If he gets taken out, subsequent efforts will usually fail. In a more benign way, we will see how Apple fares without Jobs there to run it.
One of the problems with the people who would steal Dennis’s companies was that they not only had no idea how to market them (they threw away Dennis’s marketing plans, thinking the gold was in the equipment, not the way that Dennis marketed it), they also did not understand the technology, and they all fell on their idiot swords. From what I gathered about Rife’s frequency technology, it was calibrated by what Rife could see in his scope. Since nobody has been able to reproduce his scopes, nobody can really recreate his calibrated frequency technology. They went hand-in-hand.
Naessens, like Rife, has had a very hard time with the authorities. He is still being assailed, and yes, right in his back yard, nobody has heard of him, people who should know. That is kind of like James’s Ranch, where people beat a path to The Ranch from around the world,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm
but in the tiny community where he lives, not only do you never read anything in the local media about him, but the county recently tried to close him down. That is how it works, if you are “lucky.”
What they did to us in Ventura and Seattle was the spectacular snuff job scenario, mainly because Dennis was getting too successful. That he is still getting smeared regularly on national TV shows how much of a threat they still consider him, along with other kinds of attention that I am not at liberty to publicly discuss. We gave Godzilla more than a few interesting days at the office.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
26th February 2012, 04:03
Hi:
Here are a couple of odds and ends. My feeble memory can’t recall where I wrote it, but not too long ago I wrote about some of Mr. Mentor’s inventions. His world’s best engine was just one of many disruptive technologies that he invented:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse
Virtually everything that he invented was stolen or suppressed. That is how the real world of inventing works. Long ago, as I was looking through his patents, one took me back many years to when I was a teenager. One of his patents was for a revolutionary oceanographic application. His genius was so prolific that high-ranking government officials waited for his next invention so they could steal it and take credit for it. One thief was so brazen that after he received accolades from high places for “his” invention, he told Mr. Mentor to his face that some people were smart, and some liked to invent. For the patent that took me back to my teenage years, the patent drawing was of the application as it sat on the ocean floor. That brazen thief once again got the jump on Mr. Mentor and had the Navy build a prototype of it. The thief’s understanding of what he stole was so poor that it was installed upside down, which made it useless. If the truth be told, Mr. Mentor would have probably rather had the thief install it the right way up.
That anecdote is an addendum to my previous post. Technology development, just the garden-variety, is hard and risky work. Disruptive energy technology takes the game up a few orders of magnitude. And when the thieves appear, thinking that they can steal some prototype and race off to become the Bill Gates of energy, stupider people have rarely graced the Earth, but I have seen it more than I care to recall right now. People you think you know turn into Orcs chasing the One Ring when you begin playing the free energy game and get any traction.
Even if the thieves took themselves out of the running by their total lack of integrity, the disruptive energy technology field is littered with aspirants who actually may have had ahold of something, but they succumbed to their own foibles, ran out of money, got skewered by their “allies” in the Orc fight, and so on, and nobody needed to do any suppressing of their stuff. Prototypes sit rusting in barns, garages and basements across the USA, with the original inventor dead or out of commission, and even when family or friends get involved in trying to resurrect it, they don’t have a prayer. At the proof of concept level, it all rides on the inventor. Virtually nobody else can step in and take it further, because they don’t have the original inventor’s insight, which is usually one part inspiration and four parts perspiration. Even with the Tesla-type inventors, where the invention comes into their head fully realized, and there is little trial and error developing it, nobody can just step right in and take over. Technology development does not work that way.
An analogy that might make sense is to think of the Wright brothers, working on their flyers in Dayton after Kitty Hawk:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright
They were not eager to show some technical aspects of their planes, but the fact is that there may not have been anybody else on Earth who could have stepped in and taken over. Without the Wright brothers, it wasn’t going to happen. I have read that the Wright brothers were so far ahead of their contemporaries that if they had not invented their planes, man-powered flight might not have happened until the 1920s.
On the FE front, it is way worse that than. Henry Moray had his device working in the 1930s, and Franklin Roosevelt ordered the REA to work with him to electrify rural America. Moray’s story is well known, with gunfights in his lab, a provocateur destroying his prototype with either an ax or sledgehammer, and the rest of the usual FE dynamics. Moray’s family has been trying to resurrect his technology ever since, unsuccessfully, for longer than I have been alive.
Rife began building his microscopes nearly one hundred years ago. Nobody has built another since he got wiped out in the 1930s. Naessens built his from scratch, and he tried to make his scope easy to reproduce. I almost bought one once, but that was a long process to make the technology reproducible. There is nothing easy about it. Taking prototypes to mass-production-ready is a standard industrial process, but it takes a lot of time and money, the kind that no FE inventor ever had, and anybody who developed something promising was quickly taken out by the carrots and sticks:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk
Nobody has ever gotten close to the finish line.
And here is another odd note on the Level 10 efforts. No Level 10 FE effort will get anywhere by the usual “activist” routes of protest, beseeching the rich and powerful, passing laws and so on. When the rich get involved, and they usually wreck it. There are no rich humanitarians, not that I ever saw or heard of. In today’s world, saints do not get rich.
With this FE stuff, sitting American presidents are nobodies, not in the loop and powerless, just as they are on the UFO issue:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents
Many level 10 efforts have tried to beseech the Pentagon, Capitol Hill and so-called power spots. The power is not there. Godzilla lives a few levels up the food chain from Washington D.C. and Wall Street. When Dennis would fly high, he got attention from Wall Street and D.C., but he also received Godzilla’s attention. Those are very different levels of the game.
Going to do chores now…
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
26th February 2012, 18:58
Hi:
Here is a short post that the recent ones inspired. The last thing that I am doing is encouraging anybody to go into the disruptive energy technology business. Only people like Dennis have any business trying, but I wanted to relate a few anecdotes to show how this stuff works.
Mr. Mentor worked on a military base with thousands of technical professionals. He said that only a few of them had any creative talent. The rest were plodders. They had textbook training and could crunch numbers with their slide rules, but less than 1% really had the kind of inventive talent that would move the effort ahead. The “smart” ones would steal the ideas of the inventive ones, and before long, all the creative talent abandoned ship, leaving the idiots and thieves to try scouring the crumbs of what the true talent left behind. That military base did not have one operational system when Mr. Mentor left it. The brass would try to engineer by edict, and the rest of the stupidity that the government is so well-known for.
When I was with Dennis, I worked with the engineer who designed the Seattle heat pumps. He was about my age, but had a very poor understanding of how the technology fit into what Dennis was doing, and he did not understand the technology very well, either.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#young
He declared in court that Dennis’s heat pump could not deliver the energy claimed for them, because his textbooks said so. Then he was shown a report that he did, which showed that heat pump getting those “impossible” outputs.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#testify
It might be tempting to call him a moron, but he was just acting like most engineers. When we were waiting during the summer of 1986 for Dennis to make something happen, after he was run out of Washington, that engineer spent days creating a model that he believed could be useful for selling the heat pump. It would calculate the “balance point” for the system, so the homeowner could see how much of the house’s heating job that heat pump could do. I was just beginning to understand what the heat pump was and did, and when I made it to Boston:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing
I told Dennis about that engineer’s model, and Dennis said that it was a classic example of an engineer getting lost in the technical end and failing to understand the big picture. A customer could not care less about balance points. Customers only wanted to know how much money they would save. I found that no engineers really saw the big picture of what Dennis was doing. It was like the blind men and the elephant parable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
The engineers would seize on the aspect that they could understand, but it was a tunnel-vision viewpoint at best. Kind of like the FE tinkerers who think that if they can just get a spark of FE in their garages, they are home free and can go pick out their mansion next week.
I eventually learned that I was a systems thinker, which is what comprehensivists are.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
It takes some mental horsepower to think in systems terms, but I believed that it could not be that hard to do. I was guilty of projection. It turns out that systems thinkers are few and far between, and this is part of the needle-in-the-haystack problem. Having systems thinkers with their heads aligned with their hearts is rarer still. My energy essay and my attempt to help people think comprehensively may be a fool’s errand, but I had to try.
Bucky Fuller said that only one-in-100,000 technically trained people would make the breakthroughs that would keep humanity advancing technologically, but that one would be sufficient.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#hundred
But that viewpoint also ignored the organized suppression that is out there for stuff like FE. The odds are indeed long against FE making its appearance anytime soon, but so were the odds against me busting Dennis out of jail:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it
There is something happening far larger than any of us can understand, I believe.
I have worked with information systems for my entire career, and have done a lot of systems design. I have had to slowly admit that I am a freak in my field. I have worked with many accounting systems, and regularly shake my head at the poor design. A great deal of software development is like setting loose a bunch of carpenters to build a palace, but not one architect can be found, or one who really knows what he is doing. A lot of nails get pounded and plenty of wood gets used up, but the finished product can look pretty rickety.
Virtually no accountant has that kind of creative brain needed to design systems. They can run information systems, but don’t ask any of them to design one. Back in my trucking days, I came up with the idea of how millions of truck drivers no longer had to live in their trucks. I first published it more than ten years ago:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm
Other than a few stray comments in cyberspace, nobody has picked up that ball. The technology has been in use for about fifteen years to make it happen. It is not even a very large technical challenge. The only reason not to do it is capitalist ideology, and how cheaply the lives of the drivers are valued in such a system, and we are talking about history’s richest and most powerful nation. I have been advised by a towering figure in the software field to try my bright idea in Europe, where the “social organization” would be more conducive to it. I have bigger fish to fry, but even giving away the idea does not inspire anybody to go after it. As George Carlin once said, the most powerful force in the universe is inertia. :)
I have helped run companies, and that is the most demanding work that I have done. Getting several hundred people all rowing in the same direction is not easy. Everybody has their agendas. That is one reason why the Microsoft Empire is slowly crumbling. It was not honestly built in the first place, but its success attracted the sharks looking for the quick kill, and Microsoft is full of little empires that work at cross-purposes with moving the company forward. I figure that Microsoft can keeping milking their cash cows for several more years, and then it will go the way of Rome. I have literally heard of Microsoft insiders saying the same thing. So it is, in a world of scarcity, where everybody’s “vision” stops where their self-interest ends.
Going to work now.
Best,
Wade
nearing
26th February 2012, 21:24
Wade, someone pointed out to me that you might like to comment on this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41480-Fuel-Free-Generator-Preparing-for-Market-now
It is looking good.
sandy
26th February 2012, 23:50
Hi Wade,
What a vision and yes simple answer for the trucking industry!! Giving it away has not even worked so again the lack of integrity overall is again the conundrum. What a pity!!
Only when the profits of the big trucking firms becomes the driving force will we see the changes needed so badly to help not only the constant upward driving prices of products but also the constant damage to our Mother Earth. Or only when the truckers themselves decide Enough is Enough and demand a plan such as yours is implemented will we see a change for the better.
Great vision and solution that goes unheeded to the detriment of the world :(
Wade Frazier
27th February 2012, 00:25
Hi: nearing:
A couple of threads have been started to discuss FE inventors:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=358844&viewfull=1#post358844
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=431665#post431665
I stopped commenting on, or having much interest in, the latest FE aspirant, whether it is Steorn, Rossi, Bedini, whomever Sterling is currently snooping into, or even what Dennis is up to. I do not watch the FE horseraces anymore, and I am highly skeptical of the entire approach. At least Dennis has some familiarity with Godzilla. Virtually nobody else on the scene really does, and what I usually see is complete denial on that score, or regarding the usual pitfalls:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
There are far more pretenders than contenders, and Godzilla was still alive and kicking, the last I knew. I wish them all the best, but I am doing something else.
Hi Sandy:
Yes, giving it away does not mean that anybody does anything with it. :(
Yes, someday, people will stop living in their trucks, in history’s richest and most powerful nation. In ten years, trucks may be largely driving themselves, so drivers will no longer be needed. But in a world of scarcity, the wealth is not shared from such advances, but most of what is moved around would be unnecessary anyway, under an FE economy.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
27th February 2012, 15:19
Hi:
I have another long workweek ahead of me, but before I head off to the office, I want to reiterate my intention.
1. I am not interested in people trying to scale the FE ramparts, primarily because the ones that I am familiar with don’t have a prayer of navigating the FE minefield, and there needs to be an army for that approach to work, not a stray hero here and there. I get hit multiple times a week with somebody sending me emails, links, PMs or posts about this or that garage tinkerer, or this or that factory that will start producing FE machines next week, blueprints to make your own FE machine in your garage, and so on. I lost interest in all of those approaches long ago. Been there, done that, and the only way that such an approach has a prayer that I can see is that the inventor with the goods (very rare) has to give it to a worthy group (that group does not yet exist). If I don’t even keep track of what Dennis is doing, no other effort is going to attract my interest.
2. The people interested in the FE horseraces fall into these categories, virtually without exception:
A. They like playing spectator; they have no experience in the milieu and never will have any; they have a great deal of naiveté to shed and a misperception of how the world really works; they may be well-intended, but people aren’t going to get there via their armchairs and surfing the Internet; they usually suffer from what is called “magical thinking;”
B. They are opportunists trying to be the first aboard the bandwagon, and want me to point out the right bandwagon for them, to make their job easier;
C. They are new to the field and have a great deal of naïveté to shed, if they can survive long enough to shed it.
Sincere newbies to the FE milieu all begin their journeys naively. I did, Dennis did, Brian O did – it is OK to start out naively, but you have to let go of your fantasies of how the world really works to get very far along the path. But conspiracism is also a trap which swallows up many aspirants. I see it all the time:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
Arriving at a productive understanding of how the land lies and what avenues to FE hold some promise is like walking the razor’s edge.
About 99.99% of the people who become aware of the FE milieu either deny that Godzilla exists or fixate on him. Neither one is a healthy reaction. About the only reason I post at a place like Avalon is that the members usually are not in denial that Godzilla exists, although I am continually surprised at how people think he is dead, asleep or can be snuck past. That is a foolish and potentially-suicidal viewpoint, but I see it every day.
Brian O and Dennis were always the people that I respected the most; I carried their spears for them, which were among my life’s greatest honors. There is virtually nobody else out there in the FE milieu with the right stuff and a prayer with their approach. I have encountered most of the big names of FE, and few of them have the right stuff. There is a great deal of ego, dishonesty, and naïveté in their ranks, which initially surprised me, but it shouldn’t have. That is why Brian O said that FE would come from people new to the field:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new
I eventually saw that it was time for a different approach. The primary issue is that almost nobody in the world really cares about anything other than their self-interest, which took me a long time to finally accept:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
It was the booby-prize of my journey, but it is reality. So, when I finally accepted that Dennis is about one-in-a-billion, and the few others who passed the tests with us were one in millions, I saw the folly in our strategy and began taking a different route, which I am on today.
If almost nobody has the integrity and courage to go after FE on the high road, maybe enough can be found who can simply lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
long enough to simply imagine what FE could do. That is my approach, but I have not really tried it out yet. My site today and my Avalon participation are only warm-ups.
The reason why I believed that it might make a dent is that after my days with Dennis I came to realize that around 99.9% of the population was in denial on the FE issue (levels 1 to 3 - http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1), or fearfully dismissed it in an instant (level 5). For those few who got past Level 5, they promptly fell into the pitfalls of Levels 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. Most of them fixated on one of those levels and disappeared down those rabbit holes, never to be seen again. When I have tried to warn them, what I usually received back was disbelief, arrogance, and scoffing. So, I really don’t want to watch anymore. But, it will not take many people to understand how the world really works to begin to make a dent, IMO. I could be wrong, but almost nobody on Earth is even thinking in the right directions, which is Godzilla's greatest triumph, not toying with the relatively few aspirants who try to scale the ramparts. If enough can begin to really see what is and what may be, that may be enough to catalyze its reality.
Maybe The Muppet Movie ending will happen for FE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related
but the current approaches will only work if Godzilla is defeated in a battle that happens in some deep, dark places, places that you and I will never get to see. But, trying to scale the ramparts, hoping that Godzilla is gone, is the height of folly. I get evidence from time-to-time that Godzilla is watching what I am doing, but he just watches. I am trying to go about this in a way where I am not risking my life or risking the lives of others. I see plenty of gung-ho attitudes at Avalon, and those people scare me more than anybody else. That they play their games anonymously means that they do not have the courage and initiative to really get into too much trouble, but I already have enough blood on my hands for one lifetime,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
and do not want any more. When I see naïve gung-hoers crash this thread with their instant analysis and “this way will work,” I always strongly discourage them, but I see a post like that, or receive a PM or email like that, more than once a week anymore. Some come from close buds, to my dismay. Vanishingly few people understand, or seem to want to.
So, all I am trying to do is help people think comprehensively:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
and if enough people can begin to understand how energy runs the world and always has:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
and can begin to understand what the potential of abundant, clean energy can do to the human journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
maybe that Level 12 choir will be on its way to forming:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
It is not sexy, it is not heroic, but it is a huge missing piece from all of the FE efforts that I have seen. I am doing what I can to fill that gap, and we will see how it goes.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
29th February 2012, 05:17
Hi:
OK, it is anecdote time again. This will be topical, as I see pals here and elsewhere who are trying the spread the FE word. I will present some memories that are mileposts in the evolution of my awareness and approach.
I have written that the day I met Dennis, he spoke in front of several hundred people:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#hired
Dennis is quite the speaker. Less than a year later, we were mounting our first Greatest Energy Shows on Earth:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum
But the week before the first show, we rented a booth at a home show at a convention center, and for the first time I saw Dennis the Carny Barker. It was incredible. He stood out as the masses came past our booth, handing out flyers for the show. The people manning the booths near us saw the scene of their lives. They had a happy amazement at Dennis. We did something like four days at that home show, handed out thousands of flyers, and thirty-five people attended our first show at the Old South Meeting Hall where the Boston Tea Party was planned. That week at the home show, working that show with Dennis, was probably my happiest time with Dennis. It was all downhill from there. :)
We had other shows in Boston, including that Seabrook Show.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=421441&viewfull=1#post421441
All in all, probably a couple thousand people saw our Boston shows, including agents for the Seabrook Chairman (which he admitted at the audience he gave Dennis - http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carpet).
I went to Boston not really knowing how the heat pump worked, but my scientific background came in handy and I learned fast. I quickly became the second pitchman behind Dennis. I talked to a lot of people in those days, probably the most that I ever engaged the public. While we were talking up FE, it got people’s interest for at least a little while, especially when Dennis threw out the bait of being a part of something that big. Dennis never really did what I am doing in my work, discussing FE and the big picture. His pitch was more around saving on your energy bills and getting rich. We also threw out the idealistic stuff, but that was not what drew the crowds. Self-interest sells. Selflessness does not, at least not on this planet yet, while we live in the Epoch of Scarcity.
When I talked on the phone with potential customers or other parties, I remember fielding the question of whether I had one of those heat pumps on my house. I have yet to own my own home, and it was hard to answer that question with, “Just this past winter, I fasted for forty-five days because it was cheaper than eating.” :) So, I somehow talked my way out of it.
Dennis is an extraordinarily powerful personality, and living with him and his family for a year definitely influenced me, and some pals in those days called me a zealot, and I understand the observation.
But early on, even with all the thievery aside as everybody turned into Orcs chasing the One Ring, people only seemed to be interested in FE because Dennis was making something happen. Few were paying attention because of FE’s transformative potential:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
They were there because of the opportunity to cash in. After my long, slow process of disillusionment was over in 1990:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
I parted ways with Dennis. He is greatest human being that I will probably ever meet, but I could not play at his level anymore, and my efforts even back in 1989 were embryonic steps in the direction that I have been walking ever since.
As early as 1992, I was contacting Noam Chomsky:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big
Trying to get progressives interested in free energy and the big picture. While Chomsky was gracious, as were Ed Herman and Howard Zinn:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm
I could never make any headway with them, and I banged on plenty of “progressive” doors over the years. When Brian O began snooping into FE in the early 1990s:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#intersecting
he began engaging the people at a far higher level than I could, looking up people from his astronaut, professor and political activist days, to try to make headway for the idea of FE. We are talking about Nobel Laureate types. He never got anywhere. When he and I hung out in 2001:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn15
Brian openly wondered if humanity was a sentient species, and he did it later in his next book. When I heard and saw him do that, I knew it was because of the hundreds of doors that slammed in his face, and those were supposedly smart and progressive people slamming those doors.
I could go on and on about my encounters in this arena, but let me summarize by saying that I slowly came to realize that people were addicted to scarcity. The most common response to FE talk was the Level 1 response:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
It was the vast majority of responses. The next most common was Level 4:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level4
If somebody delivered an FE device to their house, they would use it, or they would then believe that FE was possible. Well, who wouldn’t use it? That is like telling somebody, “If you offered me a billion dollars, I would accept it.” You might say that it was better than denial, but it was also no help.
If people ever became more thoughtful, they almost always ended up in Levels 2, 3 or 5, or strange combinations of them:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level2
It was really lazy thinking, but they were the most common responses from liberals, radicals and scientists.
I eventually realized that if somebody was going to “get it,” it could only be because they had a thirst for the truth and were willing get out of their easy chairs and hunt it. Anything less ended up in one of those lower levels.
The extremely few who really thought in terms of Levels 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
had afflictions that also kept them from seeing the big picture. The Level 11s were perhaps the most delusional of all, and those were the people who tried to steal Dennis’s companies all the time.
The Lambs that I am looking for must have a love of the truth and the gumption to go chasing after it. They also need discernment, because there are a million false trails to navigate and meaningless rabbit holes to swallow the inexperienced and the unwary.
My site is structured to dissuade the naïve, the idly curious, New Agers and other groups that don’t currently have what it takes to grok FE and its potential:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#audience
Understanding the big picture is not for quick-study artists, the faint of heart or people who can’t let go of their conditioning, or are not willing to try:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
I am looking for people who are willing to go deep. I am not looking for scientists necessarily, although scientific training is usually helpful, as long as the trainees have kept their minds open.
I keep reiterating that I am looking for needles in hay stacks. I am not kidding. The post that Ilie recently made is a very reasonable view of the situation:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=426801&viewfull=1#post426801
I won’t argue against him, and you can see my responses after it. The people who will be part of the lamb stampede will be able to put their egos in the back seat for a while, will be able to shed their scarcity-based indoctrination, at least for a little while, and will have a thirst for the truth and love in their hearts that guides their actions. That can all seem like some fairy-tale ideal, and I sympathize with people who think so, but the world can be a fairy-tale place if FE is wisely implemented.
People’s ego mechanisms are what keeps them locked into the Levels below Level 12, and they seem to want to stay there, because they all realize, at some level, that the advent of FE will mean the end of the world as they know it, and they are afraid. Those people can be coaxed somewhat, but they are not going to really be any use in making FE happen. People who need to have their ego mechanisms outfoxed in order to get involved are not going to be any help for this project. I have seen people try those angles, and Dennis is the all-time master of it, but I doubt it will work. I am looking for people who begin to grasp the magnitude of the situation and are brave enough to look it in the eye and see what is there. People like that are very few and far between, but they are whom I seek, fool that I am. I have found some at Avalon, and my goal is to find more later, and we will see if the sound of thundering lambs is ever heard on Earth. :)
Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
2nd March 2012, 15:28
Hi:
I have been relatively quiet recently for two reasons. One is that I am working crazy hours, and that will likely continue for most of this year. The other is that I am spending my “spare” time doing plenty of reading on the material to support my upcoming essay. In the many books that I have been reading on biology and evolution lately, I rarely come upon scientists with the modesty to admit that the entire approach of materialistic science is questionable or does not prove what it purports to, or even has the right tools to do so. Once in a while I encounter one, such as Andrew Knoll:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn2
But all too often, the religion of materialism is offered as based on fact and reason, when anybody with a little gumption can see how falsely-based that religion is, and even how shaky the foundation of establishment science is:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=435892&viewfull=1#post435892
The rationalist-materialist paradigm is a sometimes subtle and seductive mind-trap, and those of a scientific bent are particularly susceptible to being ensnared. The “funny” part is how irrational their thought can be:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive
The greatest physicists did not buy the tidy tale that the scientific establishment tells:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#schroedinger
but that does not stop lesser lights such as Sagan and Hawking from cloaking their religious convictions in the garb of unassailable fact. They crow that their “laws of physics” are all we need to understand the universe. For all of the scientific establishment‘s important findings, it has missed the boat, and badly, on many of the most important issues, including technologies that render their “laws of physics” quaint and blinkered imaginings:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
It is kind of odd reading all of the scientific material and realizing how limited so much of it is. But it is similar to when I read the news, and understand that most of it is brainwashing:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big
That is part of what makes the task I have set before me a little daunting, but we will see how it goes.
Enjoy the spring, for you Northern Hemispherians,
Wade
Wade Frazier
3rd March 2012, 06:24
Hi:
I am currently reading The Upside of Down by Thomas Homer-Dixon. It is a rather establishment-ish effort, taking at face value the 9/11 events, completely ignorant of Godzilla’s existence, and quoting Lovins instead of O’Leary on energy matters, but it is a fairly good effort, as far as describing the problems in somewhat multidisciplinary fashion.
Homer-Dixon outlines five “tectonic stresses” underlying industrialized civilization, and they are:
1. Population stress arising from differences in the population rates between rich and poor societies, and the spiraling growth of megacities in poor countries;
2. Energy stress – above all from the increasing scarcity of conventional oil;
3. Environmental stress from worsening damage to our land, water, forests, and fisheries;
4. Climate stress from changes in the makeup of our atmosphere;
5. And, finally, economic stress resulting from instabilities in the global economic system and ever-widening income gaps between rich and poor people.
Homer-Dixon acknowledges that energy is the centerpiece issue. His book studies the fall of Rome in particular, but is about the collapse of all civilizations as they run out of energy (a la Tainter, Heinberg, etc. http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm). Like so many similar efforts, he is capable of describing the issues, in a kind of white bread way that accepts too many establishment presumptions, but even with his rather run-of-the-mill understanding, the problems that he describes above are very real and looming.
However…
FE can make all of them go away, almost overnight. This weekend, I will get into how FE makes them all go away. One of the most incredible aspects of my journey is seeing learned people like Homer-Dixon capably describing our civilization-threatening problems that hinge on energy, and yet be totally ignorant of the solution to all of it that is here, today.
More this weekend.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
3rd March 2012, 19:12
Hi:
Here is the rest of that post. Thomas Homer-Dixon, as with other writers on this subject, calls energy the “master resource.” That is because when energy is scarce and costly, in Homer-Dixon’s words, “everything we try to do, including growing our food, obtaining resources like fresh water, transmitting and processing information, and defending ourselves, becomes far harder.” Homer-Dixon further says that, “most of the five stresses spring from our troubled relationship with nature.”
In a brief prelude to my energy essay, all life on Earth is primarily concerned with the acquisition, preservation, and use of energy. The earliest life forms were aquatic and chemosynthetic:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn1
and some eventually “learned” how to capture sunlight. The early life forms were all unicellular. The primary waste product of photosynthesis is oxygen, and a billion years or so of photosynthesis oxidized Earth’s surface. Oxygen is highly reactive and won’t float around intact for long. Photosynthesis made oxygen plentiful, and after everything was oxidized that could be on the surface and in the oceans, oxygen rose to the high atmospheric levels that we take for granted today. That atmospheric oxygen prevented hydrogen from escaping to space through the atmosphere. Otherwise, Earth would look like Mars, with evidence of oceans that long ago evaporated to space.
Oxygen is generally deadly to life forms, but those that adapted to oxygen eventually also “learned” to take advantage of oxygen to “invent” cellular respiration that was nearly twenty times as efficient as anaerobic (oxygen-free) means of generating energy. That great increase in energy output made multicellular life possible.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#aerobic
Today, it is thought that bacteria were enveloped into other unicellular organisms known today as archaeans, and that is where the two primary energy generators in cells came from: mitochondria and chloroplasts:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn2
Those organisms with chloroplasts did not need to move to find their energy; they just had to be in the sunlight. Those organisms became plants. Those without chloroplasts had to move around to get their energy, and they developed muscles to move and became animals.
While the sun’s output is thought to have slowly increased over the billions of years, the energy available to Earth’s life forms has varied widely primarily because of the dynamics of the tectonic plates of Earth’s crust and the atmosphere’s carbon dioxide content. Earth has had hot periods and ice ages, as the energy content of Earth’s surface fluctuated.
Several hundred million years ago, which is a recent event on the geological time scale, multi-cellular life forms began to colonize land. It is now thought that the effects of the colonizing life forms actually led to the appearance of rivers, and life terraformed Earth’s land. Those chloroplast-bearing life forms led to the colonization of land, and they eventually learned to grow above the surface. It is thought today that they originally learned to grow upward to spread their seeds, but it also became a way to outcompete other plants for sunlight. Plants eventually “learned” how to grow the polymer lignin and grow taller and not be dependent on water pressure to keep them upright, and trees were born. As trees grew, they created a still-air boundary layer between the atmosphere and the land, which became the haven for Earth’s land-based ecosystems. Captured sunlight powers all land-based ecosystems, and the run-off of organic matter via the rivers is also what provides a significant proportion of the nutrients for ocean-based life.
Land-based ecosystems host nearly 100% of Earth’s biomass today. The life forms that developed muscles because they did not have chloroplasts ate the plants, which is called grazing. The ones with muscles learned to eat each other, too, which is called predation. Some plants “learned” to develop a symbiosis with animals that has yet to be exceeded; flowering plants provide energy to animals via their fruit, and the animals spread the seeds without harming the host plant.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#flowers
Over the eons, land-based ecosystems have gone through several phases, as different life forms dominated. About 65 million years ago, an asteroid impact killed off the dominant animal class, dinosaurs, and a previously marginal animal class, mammals, came to dominate. Some tree-dwelling mammals developed paws that could grip tree limbs, and primates were born.
When some primates learned to harness fire, they began the path to humanity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#fire
Their brains grew, they walked upright, and they eventually attained the social organization and technological prowess to become the planet’s most fearsome predator, and they expanded their range across the planet.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#predator
They quickly killed off all the easy meat, and when that was gone, they domesticated plants, animals, and each other. The local and stable energy supply provided by domestication led to social hierarchies and what we call civilization.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#domestication
But that entire journey rode atop the energy situation. Humans learned to concentrate energy in fires to smelt metal. Before humans learned to smelt metal, the only non-life-form tools that they used were stones and ice. Smelting metal enabled humans to easily deforest the land and plow the soil to produce plants that provided human-digestible energy. Such practices wreck the ecosystems, however. A short-term energy gain resulted in a long-term ecological disaster. A forest used to run virtually unbroken from Morocco to Afghanistan, but it is long gone, largely replaced by desert, as Fertile Crescent humans removed the forests and kept the land denuded, which even changed the climate in those deforested lands. Most of the Amazon’s rainfall, for instance, is recycled from the rain forest largely via plant transpiration, and does not come from the oceans. Deforestation, plow agriculture, and grazing ungulates created positive feedbacks that exacerbated the dynamics, creating the arid conditions that we see in many places around the world today. The “solution” has been to pump water from below the land. That level of water extraction is only possible today by using the energy provided by fossil fuels.
With civilization came economic hierarchies, which resulted in political and social hierarchies, because there was not enough to go around. In an agriculturally-based economy, people are primary assets, especially for those further down the hierarchies, and women’s status universally declined with the advent of civilization (they were good at breeding workers, which became an enforced status, similar in ways to slavery). Being a great ape, men have always dominated the species due to their superiority in inflicting violence, but it is not a universal condition. The bonobos found themselves in an economy that allowed for different social organization that overcame the male penchant for violence, and bonobo social life revolves around sex and cooperation, not violence:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo
Humans are between bonobos and chimpanzees, as far as the relations between the sexes goes. Becoming sentient has been a mixed bag, however. Monkeys and apes are social animals. Social behaviors are largely survival-oriented, and that social heritage deeply influences humans today, as herd behaviors predominate in many ways. From way back in humanity’s past, it was fleetingly realized that physical reality is only part of creation, but as humans were domesticated and elites appeared as they clawed their way to the top of the hierarchies, they invented organized religion, which always justified the status of the elites, who always engaged in conspicuous economic consumption as a mark of their status (harems, palaces, bejeweled crowns, corpulence, spectacular grave goods). Just like all ecosystems ride atop the energy situation, so do all economic systems. The problems of elites are as old as civilization.
However, the increasing energy use of industrialized societies made many oppressive institutions obsolete, such as slavery and the systematic subjugation of women.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn7
All people desire freedom, happiness, sex, full bellies and the like, but in a world of scarcity, there is only so much to go around, so while many institutions and ideologies that justified economic hierarchies have vanished into history, others are still around:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
The hyper-elites know the game they are playing, and they have been managing the scarcity game on a global scale for long, long time. It has become a science at their levels, and I have run into them and borne the brunt of their antics:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#seattle
They are real, but they really are a symptom of humanity’s condition, not a cause, even though when they focus on taking out individuals, the individuals do not really stand a chance. They are well-heeled parasites, for the most part, and really do not know how else to be. Their primary goal is keeping the Great Herd asleep and easily manipulated, and, so far, humanity has obliged them. While they can keep the lid on disruptive technologies, FE chief among them, that make the very idea of elites obsolete, they will stay in their position, although their position is becoming increasingly untenable, partly because of the vast damage that humanity is doing to the very ecosystems that support them. It is reaching runaway conditions, and it is possible that without those suppressed technologies coming forward, humanity is going to fall off the rails soon, wiping itself out and taking a much larger fraction of the ecosystem with it than it has already.
But to return to Homer-Dixon’s list in my previous post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
How could FE impact those tectonic stresses? First and foremost, energy stress would disappear, and all the other stresses are directly dependent on the energy situation, which I will briefly summarize here. The ecosystems damage is entirely related to how we derive our energy, from “harvesting” the oceans and forests of their energy-driven bounty to razing the forests to plant crops, to grazing animals, to the damage that mining does (with FE, there would not be any mining waste, as all elements are useful, and mining waste directly reflects the point where the returns on energy use diminish to where it is not worth it to further refine the mined material). All fresh water exists due to the solar-powered hydrological cycle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle
Humans, like our great ape cousins, are designed to eat fruit. It is our ideal food, but as we migrated beyond our natural range, we engaged in many practices that led to sufficient calories (at an awesome price to the ecosystems) but was not really what humans were designed to eat. The root and seed crops that provide most of humanity’s dietary energy are far from ideal foods, and have led to a great deal of human health problems. Also, the crowding and filth of cities has bred disease since the dawn of civilization.
The global variation of energy availability that we call “seasons” is why humans have such impoverished diets. With FE, fruit and any plant food imaginable can be grown in indoor environments, anywhere people want them, such as on Mars, if they wish. The thin layer of the ecosphere would no longer need to be commandeered in the service of the human lifestyle.
Solve the energy scarcity problem, and the problems of ecological damage, economic scarcity and the resultant hierarchies, even the very idea of rich and poor, would quickly vanish. Urban environments exist primarily due to energy scarcity. Cities are really energy-concentrating devices. With FE, as abundant energy is locally produced, anywhere anybody wants it, the perceived need for cities will largely vanish. The urban phase of humanity will be seen like the hunter-gatherer phase or the phase where slavery and the subjugation of women was seen as “natural.”
With FE, the world can look like this before long:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
I am shooting to raise enough awareness in enough people to catalyze the transition to a world where realities like that become feasible. It can only happen if energy is abundant, and energy abundance has proven to be a virtually unimaginable idea to the vast majority of humanity (and the global elites actively foster that blindness), and I am just trying to make the idea thinkable.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm
I just sketched a tale that my upcoming energy essay with plumb in some depth. What I wrote above is about how I see the situation, in its broad strokes. The advent of FE would be the biggest event in the human journey so far, by far:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
Everything else that is happening on the human scene right now is just noise, and little of it is pleasant noise. :)
I have a busy weekend ahead of me, but wanted to get this post launched.
Best,
Wade
Dennis Leahy
3rd March 2012, 21:08
Hi:
Here is the rest of that post. Thomas Homer-Dixon, as with other writers on this subject, calls energy the “master resource.” That is because when energy is scarce and costly, in Homer-Dixon’s words, “everything we try to do, including growing our food, ...
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Humans, like our great ape cousins, are designed to eat fruit. It is our ideal food, but as we migrated beyond our natural range, we engaged in many practices that led to sufficient calories (at an awesome price to the ecosystems) but was not really what humans were designed to eat. The root and seed crops that provide most of humanity’s dietary energy are far from ideal foods, and have led to a great deal of human health problems.
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Best,
Wade
Wow Wade, I am just stunned by your comprehensive overview. What a journey you just took us on - from single celled life to life with FE. Wheeeeeeeeee! :~)
Of all the things to pick out of that essay, I got sidetracked on one minor point. If this opens a food debate, or (worse) a vegan vs omnivore debate in the middle of your thread, I will apologize and spin off a new thread to keep us all from being waylaid. The point I got sidetracked on was the one I highlighted in the snippet of your post that I quoted.
Perhaps you could just point me to the material that would help me understand how fruit alone could meet human dietary needs. In her book Green for Life (http://greenforlife.com/), Victoria Boutenko makes a compelling case that humans should look to wild chimpanzees for dietary lifestyle advice, and shows that chimpanzees eat a diet of nearly half greens and half fruit (with the occasional twig and insect thrown in for fun.) Following this book is a new dietary experiment for me, and has just begun, so I have no time-tested conclusions. I have been vegan for a couple of decades, but fell into the trap of cooked foods, including lots of roots and grains.
Again, if this is too distracting in this thread, I'll start (or you can start) another thread, maybe here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?70-Food-Water) or here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?19-Alternative-Medicine-Sciences). I just love your mind (well, the rest of you too!), and want to tap into your source or experience for making the above statement.
Since I concur with bonobos on the ideas of making love not war and on cooperation rather than competition, maybe it's time to find out what wild bonobos eat. :~)
Gracias, amigo.
Dennis
Wade Frazier
3rd March 2012, 21:35
Hi Dennis:
Humans cannot eat just fruit, at least not very well. People have subsisted entirely off of bananas, but I would not recommend it. The great ape diet is about two-thirds fruit. The rest is leaves, seeds and the chimpanzee is the most carnivorous great ape, with a few percent of its diet meat and insects. They are also the most violent great apes. Humans began eating a lot more meat as they migrated past their natural range, and some theories have meat eating causing the expanding human brain, although it is controversial.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn4
The evidence is pretty strong that humans have evolved to eat cooked food to some extent, but that comes with big downsides, too. The ideal human diet is probably about half fruit, about a quarter vegetables, and the rest the higher density starch and protein foods, most of that being cooked, although it certainly does not need to be meat. Cooked food is a different issue than processed and preserved food. Food processing and preservation is where a lot of the toxins in the human diet arise, as well as all the industrial age chemicals.
Big subject, but that is a start.
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
3rd March 2012, 23:19
Gasp - Wade you must both speed read and speed type, non? Ditto Dennis' comment, I am amazed at how much you cover...whew. Have added that author to my book list.
Just added to mine, "Dies The Fire" trilogy by S.M. Stirling. I am on p. 18 and after an MP blast - from as yet undisclosed - not only is the grid out, but even watches, batteries and flash lights don't work. Wow. I didn't know about that. Planes fall out of the sky - well I'm sure the rest of the mammoth disaster is apparent. Looking forward to how our hero gets through the three books.
Then I'd like to look at Thomas Homer Dixon. Have a great weekend!
Wade Frazier
4th March 2012, 00:50
Hi CdnSirian:
I don’t think I read that fast, but I probably do, comparatively. I read a great deal of intellectually-challenging material, so I doubt that I read much of it quickly, unless I am reading different perspectives on similar subject matter, then it takes less time to digest. It was not until I looked at one of Homer-Dixon’s notes that I realized that I read one of his other books a few years ago, Environment, Scarcity, and Violence. The guy lives in Toronto, and I sometimes catch a whiff of the White Liberal Male bias in his writings, so you are warned.
That said, multidisciplinary works on the trajectory of civilization where energy is front and center is subject matter that everybody should be acquainted with, as that is the back of the beast that everybody in the civilized world is riding on, whether you work in an office building or live on a farm. That is a big thrust of my upcoming essay, but I obviously take it further into the big arc of the journey of life on Earth. The bigger the picture we can all see, the easier it is to avoid getting lost in the weeds. The devil is in the details, too, and that is partly why you see so few comprehensivists running around. It takes a lot of work. Fuller proposed a comprehensivist curriculum that some schools have actually followed. The race between education and catastrophe is on, for sure.
Actually, I have poor small motor control, so my typing skills are atrocious. That is a big handicap in playing the high tech game, for sure, but I compensate in other ways and squeak by.
P.S. I read a lot of sci-fi and fantasy, and I have seen Stirling's stuff in the bookstore but never took the plunge. Might take a peek one day.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
4th March 2012, 20:25
Hi:
Before I run of to work, I want to present my view in light of the above:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
As it sketches, and as all the comprehensive perspectives that I have seen echo, energy is the name of the game on Earth and always has been. Going from our fossil-fuel powered civilization to an FE-based one will dwarf all previous epochal transitions of the human journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
Nothing else comes close. I am not into Kaku’s way of seeing it, such as controlling all of the energy in a solar system or galaxy, which seems a bit grandiose. Humanity living abundantly and harmlessly on our little orb is plenty to have on our plates.
When you begin to see the big picture and the juncture that we are at, all retail politics, “protest,” and the million branches that people hack at become pretty pointless, and is like fighting over who gets the best berths on the Titanic. If we don’t solve the energy issue, and pronto, the rest will not matter. When people begin to understand that the technology exists to not only make those “tectonic stresses” evaporate overnight, but to also make Earth look something like this in short order:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
but we don’t get any right now because Godzilla is busy playing the power-and-control game over humanity, and about 99.99% of humanity is completely oblivious, content to chase their self-interest above all else, it can be a heavy load to bear. Many people have poured their awareness into 80-proof bottles of solace and other dysfunctional coping mechanisms when they begin seeing the big picture. When Brian O asked if humanity was a sentient species, it was a fair question, knowing what he had been through:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=425888&highlight=lovins#post425888
When people get past denial of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
which is rarely, they nearly invariably then go through various fear and denial phases regarding the FE situation, including thinking that they can sneak past Godzilla or pretend that he is asleep or dead, or can be defeated in battle, and they can become the Bill Gates of Energy, etc.
Arriving at an enlightened and productive understanding of the issues and potential is like walking the razor’s edge, and requires a comprehensive perspective. I call it Level 12:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
Tunnel vision won’t work, but it characterizes a great deal of the activism that I have seen, and some is understandable because they have to focus to survive the minefield, because few can survive for long. I have had to cart the corpses off myself, so I know what they are up against. But, I came to realize, after a long time, that the standard routes of activism and capitalism do not have a prayer on this playing field. Because almost nobody even wants to see the big picture, my task is not an easy one, but I did not see anybody really even trying. Brian kind of did, but his perspective was influenced by his American nationalist indoctrination and his self-admitted co-dependent relationship with Washington D.C., which is common with virtually every American FE activist and inventor that I have encountered. We are all force-fed the red, white and blue Kool-Aid from our cradles:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag
and it is very difficult to shed our scarcity-based indoctrination in its many flavors:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
But people can’t reach Level 12 while dragging that baggage with them. They have to let it go, even if it has given them comfort over the years. Until enough people can walk that razor’s edge to Level 12, all FE activism is likely doomed, as the very few with the right stuff to play that game are easily picked off, one at a time, if their “allies” don’t take them out first. Awareness first, then action, but awareness comes from experience and few can survive getting much FE experience, so I am trying something a little different:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
and we will see how it goes.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
5th March 2012, 03:38
Hi:
In looking at Homer-Dixon’s list:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
I see that I could have been more explicit about the climate change aspect. With indoor farms and dwellings that can be made as durable and portable as we can imagine, whatever Earth decides to do does not matter much, as far as human welfare is concerned. Humans will no longer be at the mercy of the weather and natural disasters. But that does not mean that we don’t clean up our mess. With FE, the current 392 PPM of atmospheric carbon dioxide could be brought down to the pre-industrial 280 PPM fairly rapidly, if we wanted to. Likewise cleaning up all dumps (we would mine them), hazardous waste facilities and the floating garbage patches in our oceans:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
would be easy and even fun to do. I would happily spend time on that job. There would not be any human drudgery in any of it, but the wise implementation of technologies that can clean up our messes pretty easily. Earth would like it, too. :)
Also those global economic stresses would disappear. The stresses are all energy-scarcity-related, including the exploitation of cheap labor the world over by the capitalists. With free energy, computers and robotics, with great advances on the robotics and computing end also kept under wraps like FE is, as is advanced materials science, cleaning up our mess would be child’s play.
Best,
Wade
Nerge
5th March 2012, 13:51
Hi Wade :)
Great posts as always and love the site.
Out of curiosity, do you have any examples of anyone (individual or group etc) that have attempted to advertise the general concept of free energy out there at a grass roots level in the past and how they attempted this? I'm not talking about a particular device but the concept alone as you are championing?
I remember your story about about handing out leaflets to a show Dennis and you were holding and only 30 or so turned up. I'm wondering if there's any other ways to go about this (in addition to what you're doing now) to slowly get the message out there. Even if it's seeing a FREE ENERGY sticker plasted somewhere, and then more info over the course of time.
I suppose the aim would be to trickle feed the concept into people's conciousness with more and more detail until the point is reached where people are demanding to know why the heck this isn't being developed on-mass and why all those patents are sitting there repressed.
Kind of like how people on the net currently describe something as going viral or 'trending'. Yep there's Godzillla, and I'm under no illusion that he could be tip-toed past or battled 1 vs 1, however, get enough people aware and pissed off and you suddenly have a swarm of nats biting Godzilla's ass from every direction and he doesn't know where to turn or strike first. :)
Basically, awareness on-mass of the concept and possibility of free energy, as you've mentioned before and what you're trying to do now (correct me if I'm wrong). :)
Wade Frazier
6th March 2012, 06:02
Hi Nerge:
Well, I am punch drunk from my day in the office, so I will happily reply, “No! I am not trying to get a swarm of gnats going, and I am not really shooting for mass awareness right now.” :)
This is what I am trying to do, briefly:
1. Help people think comprehensively, so that they can see how central the energy issue is and always has been ( see above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998 ):
2. Use my “credentials” as somebody who has been on the free energy front lines to help convince people that organized suppression of disruptive energy technologies is not some “conspiracy theory,” but all too real (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make );
3. Further use my credentials to help convince people that it is not all just suppression happening, but free energy and related technologies already exist and have probably been around for longer than I have been alive (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground );
4. Help people see what those suppressed technologies are capable of accomplishing in the right hands (ours :) ) (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced );
5. Help them see that just lending their awareness to the issue is what is desperately needed right now, not would-be warriors and other gnats who want to take on Godzilla (or tinkerers who want to sneak by him), but just those who can maintain a loving, intelligent awareness and focus on what is important;
6. If I can help get several thousand Earthlings thinking in that way, and even just discussing it at an intelligent level (I am only asking that about 0.0001% of humanity achieve that state), it can help catalyze another hundred thousand to get there - they will be the awake and the awakening of humanity;
7. If that many people devoted about 1% of their effort toward the problem in a somewhat coordinated fashion, overcoming the organized suppression would be easy.
That is all that I am trying to do. :) That might seem easy, but it has never been done before (or even tried before, as far as I can tell), and it is incredibly difficult, because the people who can get to that fifth level listed above are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population. More than 99% of humanity is simply in denial, and not just about FE, but about most of how our world really works. They sold out their hearts and awareness in exchange for security, or so they think. They will begin to wake up to FE when it is delivered to their homes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli), and are no help at this stage.
I wrote about handing out those flyers to help make the point that I have been there and done that, and eventually saw how futile it was. There has been plenty stated and written about what Dennis and I were doing in the media and on the Internet, but it is mostly just lies about what we were doing, from national TV shows (this is just one of several than have been on in recent years http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=412345&highlight=dateline#post412345 ) that feature lying “skeptics” (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm ), and lying scientists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel), and many pretenders who think they are contenders. When your own mother saves those lying articles about her “criminal” son (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492 ), then you begin to see how the swarm of flies ends up seeking the steaming piles instead of harrying Godzilla. :)
More to write, but not tonight. Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
6th March 2012, 15:19
Hi:
Before I rush off to work, I want to reiterate for the hundredth time what I am not trying to do.
1. I am not trying to inspire garage tinkerers to “secretly” make an FE gizmo in their garages. You can’t do to secretly, not from Godzilla (although I hear from foolish newbies all the time who think they can), it is lot harder than the would-be tinkerers would have you believe, and playing the secrecy game is self-defeating.
2. I am not trying to get some kind of mass movement going, and by that I mean trying to attract the attention of people watching their favorite TV show who flip the dial to some FE spectacle for a few minutes before flipping back to what the Kardashians are up to now.
3. I am not trying to get people stampeding after some FE business opportunity; such herds are easily stampeded in whatever way Godzilla wants them to go. You cannot out-herd the master shepherd.
4. I am not trying to raise money to get some FE inventors and scientists in a room to go at it. Been there, done that. That is easily taken out, and such efforts usually self-destruct in orgies of greed before Godzilla even needs to roll out of bed.
5. I am not trying to wake up my friends, family, co-workers, and neighbors to FE. If you find one in a hundred among your friends and family who really get it, other than attacking and ostracizing you, you are doing well. If you try doing it at the office, then you had better plan for what your next job will be, and fast.
6. I am not encouraging anybody to quit their day jobs to go chasing after FE along the many avenues that have been tried; for those who want to sacrifice their lives on the FE altar, they need to go someplace else to throw their lives away, like look up Dennis.
7. I am not trying to find a new target for “protestors” to focus on, or get people to approach Wall Street, the White House, the Pentagon and other perceived “power spots,” beseeching them about FE. Been there, done that, several times, and it is a fear-and-victim-based awareness that goes those routes, and the game is rigged, believe me. It is time for a love-and-creator-based awareness to manifest. Without love being the centerpiece, no effort stands a chance.
Those are all avenues that I am not pursuing. I have either participated in all of those avenues or watched others try. They are all either dead ends or insanely risky, and I am trying to do something different. There are no five-minute solutions to this conundrum.
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
6th March 2012, 17:55
From Star Wars: "He will learn patience..." :)
Wade Frazier
7th March 2012, 06:49
Ah, yes, Master Ilie-wan, the student may yet learn, with time… :)
Wade Frazier
9th March 2012, 14:24
Hi:
I am about to get a very brief break from my work hurricane, where I “only” have a couple of sixty-hour weeks coming up sandwiched between eighty-hour weeks and moving. When I fast during such hurricanes I need less sleep, so I have some time to read (on the bus, usually), and do a little writing. As mentioned earlier, I am reading The Upside of Down, which is mainly about energy and civilization, and uses the Fall of Rome to illustrate its thesis. There is some important original work in its pages, but like the perspectives of typical white males, the book suffers from serious misconceptions about how the world really works. While it echoes one of my primary themes about the human journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct
it also makes the case that the three things that we have going for us are science, democracy and capitalism, and the crux of my site may be that all three “legs” of our supporting stool to help us avoid oblivion are false gods.
Similarly to how what we today call Christianity and Islam, for instance, are really the outcomes of political battles engaged in by power-hungry people, and neither religion much resembles the visions of Jesus and Mohammed, what we call science today is a pale imitation of the real thing, and is even an inversion of it at times.
The technologies under wraps today make the physics texts look like cave drawings:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
The greatest physicists did not buy the materialistic fables that are told in the halls of science today:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical
but a hack such as Carl Sagan promoted materialistic fairy tales while unfairly attacking anything that strayed from his faith:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan
Microscopes that not only overturn optical theory but show how the founding theories of life itself are deeply flawed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens
have been around for longer than I have been alive, and about all that they have met has been organized suppression by the medical racketeers, which brings me to that other leg of our salvation stool, capitalism. Like religion and science are illusions of truth, capitalism and democracy are illusions of freedom. There is no such thing as a free market, and there has never been a real democracy. They sound good on paper, but have never been seen in the real world, although, similar to the fairy tales of religion and science, the examples of democracy or capitalism presented to us are Big Lies.
As Fuller said, the political actors are puppets of the economic interests:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#economic
The sitting American president, supposedly the leader of the world’s richest, most powerful and freest nation, is nothing but a pretty face, not in the loop at all regarding the vitally important issues of our day:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents
Even CEOs of household-name corporations are nothing more than figureheads, totally out of the loop regarding the important stuff.
Our so-called science, democracy and capitalism are elaborate illusions, and Western children are brainwashed into the fables as ardently as the most indoctrinated child living in a totalitarian society. The way the brainwashing works is to get them while they are young:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms
and force-feed them the Kool-Aid as soon as they can walk. In a world of scarcity, the brainwashing works, because playing the game offers material and egocentric rewards. It is a trap, and a species-threatening one.
Similar to Gandhi saying that Western Civilization would be a nice idea, so would an enlightened “religion,” or a real democracy, a real free market, a real free press and a real science (the greatest science of all is the science of consciousness). All of those illusions are carefully contrived by the people who really run the world, and you have never heard of any of them. Part of my point is that those people are real; I bore the brunt of their activities when my life’s work became a threat to them:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting
but they are not the root of our problems: we are. It is time to wake up from all the lies that we have been fed from our cradles and grow up and become a responsible species. The sorry spectacles that we see on the world stage today are anything but the actions of a grown-up and sentient species. In order to do that, we need to let go of the comforting illusions, all of them. Anything less will see us trapped into the low orbits of the scarcity-based ideologies that we have all been fed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
The Upside of Down has the energy part right; energy runs the world and always has:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
but the author has put his faith in the false gods of our modern indoctrination. The masters say it best: it is all about love. Anything less is the path of disaster. We are really here to learn the lessons of love. And love is the greatest energy of all:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest
It is as simple as that.
Best,
Wade
Nerge
9th March 2012, 15:03
Hi Nerge:
Well, I am punch drunk from my day in the office, so I will happily reply, “No! I am not trying to get a swarm of gnats going, and I am not really shooting for mass awareness right now.” :)
This is what I am trying to do, briefly:
1. Help people think comprehensively, so that they can see how central the energy issue is and always has been ( see above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998 ):
2. Use my “credentials” as somebody who has been on the free energy front lines to help convince people that organized suppression of disruptive energy technologies is not some “conspiracy theory,” but all too real (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make );
3. Further use my credentials to help convince people that it is not all just suppression happening, but free energy and related technologies already exist and have probably been around for longer than I have been alive (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground );
4. Help people see what those suppressed technologies are capable of accomplishing in the right hands (ours :) ) (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced );
5. Help them see that just lending their awareness to the issue is what is desperately needed right now, not would-be warriors and other gnats who want to take on Godzilla (or tinkerers who want to sneak by him), but just those who can maintain a loving, intelligent awareness and focus on what is important;
6. If I can help get several thousand Earthlings thinking in that way, and even just discussing it at an intelligent level (I am only asking that about 0.0001% of humanity achieve that state), it can help catalyze another hundred thousand to get there - they will be the awake and the awakening of humanity;
7. If that many people devoted about 1% of their effort toward the problem in a somewhat coordinated fashion, overcoming the organized suppression would be easy.
That is all that I am trying to do. :) That might seem easy, but it has never been done before (or even tried before, as far as I can tell), and it is incredibly difficult, because the people who can get to that fifth level listed above are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population. More than 99% of humanity is simply in denial, and not just about FE, but about most of how our world really works. They sold out their hearts and awareness in exchange for security, or so they think. They will begin to wake up to FE when it is delivered to their homes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli), and are no help at this stage.
I wrote about handing out those flyers to help make the point that I have been there and done that, and eventually saw how futile it was. There has been plenty stated and written about what Dennis and I were doing in the media and on the Internet, but it is mostly just lies about what we were doing, from national TV shows (this is just one of several than have been on in recent years http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=412345&highlight=dateline#post412345 ) that feature lying “skeptics” (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm ), and lying scientists (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel), and many pretenders who think they are contenders. When your own mother saves those lying articles about her “criminal” son (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492 ), then you begin to see how the swarm of flies ends up seeking the steaming piles instead of harrying Godzilla. :)
More to write, but not tonight. Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Thanks for the response Wade, appreciated.
I believe I follow what you're saying there and I do see how energy is the key to all of this. So much of our own energy is sucked out of us and our lives simply trying to survive (if you can call it that) instead of really living; living the lives that FE would allow that is.
Do you have any practical suggestions for those who have become truely aware of FE and how central the enegy issue is, on how to spread the message further and to aid in these efforts? (sorry if you've covered this on your site and I've missed it)
Wade Frazier
9th March 2012, 23:58
Hi Nerge:
Good question. Big subject. Yes, there are places on my site where I make specific recommendations, such as here:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
The essay that I have been preparing to write for several years is intended to help people think comprehensively about the energy issue, and I give a preview of it here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
But it is very difficult for people to see the big picture on this stuff, for several reasons, but the most important is whether they want to. That is the most important thing. Not really wanting to understand the big picture is what keeps people in the unawareness and denial levels of the free energy onion:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0
which is where more than 99% of humanity currently resides. After many years of witnessing literally thousands of reactions to the idea of FE, I came to realize that even the dimmest among us can fairly easily glimpse at least some of FE’s ramifications, but it quickly overwhelms them, as the world as they know it would end. They are deeply afraid of that, so their violent reactions of denial can really be something to behold, even if Heaven on Earth can be the outcome of FE’s implementation. The negative reactions can even become more extreme from people who are supposedly trying to solve our energy problems, such as Amory Lovins, leading environmentalists, and even “visionary” efforts such as The Venus Project. Brian O discovered that the hard way back in the 1990s, as he played the Paul Revere of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere
and so has anybody else who has played this game at the high levels. My upcoming essay will more consciously comprehensive than this one from ten years ago:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm
which I wrote before being introduced to Fuller’s work:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
which really crystallized my thinking on the issue of scarcity and abundance. I was being a comprehensivist without knowing that there was an idea or word for it. Once I took in Fuller, the tableau became much clearer for me, and I am really looking forward to finishing that essay, although the prospect can also be daunting.
With that, I will give a little preview of an aspect of my upcoming essay. Whether the study is biology or the rise and fall of civilizations, energy is always the central issue, and there can be interesting and valid similarities. Biologists have come to understand that longevity is directly related to how organisms acquire and use their energy. For animals, the mitochondria are their sole energy generators. Oxygenic respiration produces nearly twenty times the energy that anaerobic respiration and fermentation provide, and made complex life forms possible. But oxygen is highly reactive, and oxidative stress is the primary vector of what we call aging. As mitochondria generate energy to power the cells, they create free radical byproducts, and those free radicals inflict oxidative stress on the surrounding tissue. Free radicals essentially steal electrons from neighboring molecules, and when that happens it disables the molecule that lost the electron. Free radicals damage biological systems in that way. As organisms age, the mitochondria, through reproductive errors, get creaky and throw off increasing amounts of free radicals in proportion to the useful energy molecules that are produced. Think of it like a car’s exhaust. As the engine ages and eventually wears out, it becomes less efficient and more polluting.
There is a rule-of-thumb for mammals that the bigger they are, the longer they live. A mouse and an elephant both have about the same number of heartbeats per lifetime. Birds live far longer than similarly-sized mammals, and the current thinking is that birds are the most energy efficient animals on Earth. Flying is the most energetically-demanding activity on Earth, and birds have lungs that get fresh air on both the inhale and exhale, giving them far more efficient respiration than mammals, which is why birds mastered the air. In order to generate the energy needed to fly, their energy-generating capacity while flying is far greater than when they are rest. Think of a bird as a high performance engine that is usually idling. There is a lot of “slack” in the bird’s energy system, and that capacity that is available but not continually used provides great resilience in the bird’s energy systems, and their mitochondria age far more slowly than a mammal’s does, comparatively, which is why they live so long.
Similarly, a civilization that is always riding the ragged edge of its energy production abilities, without much “slack” in the system, is not very resilient. That is why pre-industrialized societies are as socially rigid as they are, because there is no slack in the system. Everybody had better be helping to grow food (except the king and his retinue, of course :) ), and they are deathly afraid of a bad harvest where everybody starves. Consequently, there cannot really be much freedom in such a system:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5
When you start understanding how we all ride atop the energy situation, from Bill Gates to a starving child in Africa, you begin to see the big picture.
My upcoming essay is intended to help people see it, but again, I am not trying to attract the masses’ attention. Pursuing the truth is hard work in our world, and few are really suited to it, and probably only older souls really have much of a chance. Most prefer the comforting fictions served up by the indoctrination systems:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
because buying into them can assure the believer a full belly and egocentric strokes. There is more to write, but I need to get on with my chores that have been neglected as I have been working the long hours lately.
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
10th March 2012, 00:01
From Star Wars: "He will learn patience..." :)
Surely don't you mean "Patience, he will learn"? O.K.! Just messing with you! :)
CdnSirian
10th March 2012, 00:09
Wade, thanks for another long reply to - whom/whatever. (not "whatever in the "everything's so boring" way). Our hopes, dreams, visions and power - never boring.
Empathy, re chores. They never go away.
Dennis Leahy
10th March 2012, 04:40
... it echoes one of my primary themes about the human journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct
it also makes the case that the three things that we have going for us are science, democracy and capitalism, and the crux of my site may be that all three “legs” of our supporting stool to help us avoid oblivion are false gods.
Similarly to how what we today call Christianity and Islam, for instance, are really the outcomes of political battles engaged in by power-hungry people, and neither religion much resembles the visions of Jesus and Mohammed, what we call science today is a pale imitation of the real thing, and is even an inversion of it at times.
...
Best,
Wade
This is like listening to some long classical music piece that has a number of crescendos, the crescendos coming in waves.
I have a pretty good feeling that back in the days when community and some family communication involved the telling and retelling of stories around the fire, that the storyteller got better and better at telling the story. I've seen the same with the very best stand-up comedians - who are, of course, storytellers.
Wade, this post had that quality. Like an art object that we might walk round and round, looking from multiple angles, finding the same level and degree of artistry from any angle.
I'm not "blowing smoke up your skirt" (one of my favorite mixed metaphors) or fawning to stroke your ego, but rather letting you know that the work you have put into honing your message (what is called "rhetoric" in a classical Trivium education), is paying off.
Dennis
Wade Frazier
10th March 2012, 15:06
Hi Dennis:
Consider the smoke blown. :) Yes, my writing has become better over the years, and that is just from doing so much of it. I still have the first book that I wrote in 1991, as therapy to try to make sense of what I survived in Ventura. The basic theme is the same, but the style has certainly matured.
My first and second sites, in 1996 and 1999, had a long way to go, and hiring an editor in 1999 was the best move of my writing career. I learned the lessons of my writing career via her red pen. My writings improved so much after her editing lessons that one professional writer friend doubted that I was the author of my 2002 site. :)
I write professionally today, but I write technical business documents. I still have a long ways to go. I began to like writing only about ten years ago. It is hard work, and when you are getting all the red ink from your editor, you realize how far you have to go.
I must be getting close to those 10,000 hours that they say it takes to gain competency at any complex task, and making these Avalon posts are indeed helpful in honing my skills and message. Good writing, IMO, is simply writing that gets the message across as efficiently and effectively as possible. Writing about my subject matter is challenging in that I can tell how difficult it is for people to understand it. It comes from a different paradigm, or at least points to one, so, as Ilie and others have seen, I keep repeating the message in slightly different ways. It is also great patience training! :)
I come from a family of writers, but my ancestors also used their abilities to hurt people, and I think that my job is to help heal the family karma to some degree.
I have a busy weekend ahead of me, but might make a post or two.
Best,
Wade
aranuk
10th March 2012, 15:28
Hi Wade, you mentioned it takes 10,000 hours that they say it takes to gain competency at any complex task. So I calculated that is working 40 hours per week it amounts to 4.8 years. My apprenticeship as a builder was 5 years. My studies in Astrology took 5 years before I could confidentally speak about certain aspects of astrology to astrologers. Just backing up what you are saying.
Stan
Wade Frazier
10th March 2012, 16:04
Thanks Stan. Some guy wrote a book about the 10,000 hours. Of course, there can be great variation, where some have past-life leg-ups, while others do not have the talent to begin with, but it takes a while to train the human animal.
Wade Frazier
10th March 2012, 19:40
Hi:
Because the link showed up on my page, I made a post to another thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41865-Zbigniew-Brzezinski-s-book-BETWEEN-TWO-AGES.&p=445504&viewfull=1#post445504
but the conversation has veered from the thread’s topic, so I am bringing it back here.
Hi Limor:
You don’t live in the USA, so I don’t know if you are aware of the Kool-Aid that all American children are force-fed, and it was way worse during the Baby Boom, with Father Knows Best, Ozzie and Harriet, Gilligan’s Island and the rest of that happy mythology.
While Israel has its founding myths (although its “Promised Land” genocidal allegories are charming :) http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua), with bona fide terrorists being Israel’s Founding Fathers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#arsenal
American nationalism has a hoary past, too. Making master thief and mass murderer George Washington America’s first president:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint
was evidence of the deep plutocratic roots of the American Empire. The USA has always been a plutocracy, and the big decisions have not been made by governments for a long, long time. The private interests run the show. But when the Kool-Aid has been served up to American children for nearly two hundred years:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag
that is a lot of indoctrinational momentum to overcome, and I am about the only American that I know of who has, and I still have to work on it. All other American FE activists that I have encountered still have a little Kool-Aid on the corner of their mouths that they can never quite wipe off. The ones that I respect the most all began their journeys as flag-saluting Boy Scouts, including Brian:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts
As I write this, I have a eulogizing essay that I wrote about Brian that is waiting for final approval from his family. That essay will be a lot more revealing than his biographies that I have written:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm
and one part is about Brian’s confession of how naïve he still was, late in his life. He put a vignette in his last book on just that subject:
http://www.brianoleary.info/Synopsis.html
For all of Brian’s background as an astronaut, Ivy League professor, corporate cog, advisor to presidential candidates and his vast global travels, he was actually pretty cloistered on the FE front. Dennis played at levels that Brian and virtually no other FE activist ever sniffed, because he was putting disruptive energy technology on the market:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis
in a way that was potentially highly disruptive. When you start playing at that level, you enter a different universe, in several ways. Every presidential administration since Reagan’s has known who Dennis was. Clinton knew Dennis by name, and Obama probably does, too, and so did the two Bushes. But because of our encounters with Godzilla:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
and there is plenty that I cannot publicly share today on that score, it became obvious that the sitting American president was nobody on the world scene. The presidents themselves were disabused of their notions that they really ran much of anything:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents
and when I encountered Greer’s adventures while playing at those levels, it largely only confirmed what I discovered during my ride with Dennis. None of the important decisions are made by the officials of any official government on Earth, and it has probably been that way for a long time. But the Brzezinskis, Kissingers, Rockefellers and other retail elites are also not calling the shots. Bill Gates is a little boy with his toys, compared to the GCs, and you have never heard of any of them. They operate in the shadows. Sure, they use the world’s governments for their ends, but that CIA guy who delivered the quiet money offer to Dennis was only an errand boy, and probably did not even know who his paymasters really were.
Anyway, Brian O eventually began to realize it late in his life, and that probably had something to do with my adventures with Dennis. Somewhat ironically, one of the best things that Dennis and I had going for us was our naiveté and ignorance of how it really worked. Like fools, we rushed in, tugging on Godzilla’s tail. We survived the experience, just barely, but what a learning experience it was. Again, until you start going to market with disruptive energy technology, you are not really going to get the royal tour of how the world really works on that issue, which is the most important issue on Earth today:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
When I see people dispute that, I ask in what other area aspirants are offered a billion dollars to go away before they get the boom lowered on them. A hundred billion dollars in quiet money is a pittance to pay for the game that Godzilla is playing:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar
but almost all I ever get is stark denial, even from people who think they know something about the FE milieu. Garage tinkerers and FE theorists are not going to get offers like that. Only when you get close to market do the carrots and sticks grow by orders of magnitude.
So, that is the long way of saying that Brian thought that he was getting to the decision-makers in Washington, but he really wasn’t. He bought the illusion, and it took most of his lifetime to figure that out, but even then, he still could not completely buy the idea that Washington D.C. games and all retail politics is a dead end. I think that most people have to go through the experience before reality finally begins dawning on them.
Similarly, most so-called activism misses the root issues altogether as they hack at branches. If they think about economics, they focus on the egocentric aspect of the economy, which is the financial economy, and think that that is what needs fixing. They focus on symptoms, not causes. Money and banking is another elaborate illusion. Matter and energy is the real economy, and the financial economy is only a big illusion and is not really where the power is. However, people are conditioned to see no further than their self-interest, and that usually means that they never think past their wallets. It is really crippling to people’s sense of the real world to focus on money and banking, thinking that that is where the power and core problem is. The financial economy is the tail, not the dog, and retail politics is the hair on the tail - sometimes is it sleek, and sometimes it is mangy, but it is all superficial.
Time to do chores (as CdnSirian wrote, they never go away :) ).
Best,
Wade
P.S. Limor, your chicken-or-egg FE questions are good ones that I bat around plenty on my site:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question
and on my threads at Avalon. I may spend some time addressing your question this weekend.
Wade Frazier
11th March 2012, 15:35
Hi Limor:
I have a little time this morning. On the energy issue, there are the practical and mystical aspects. I acknowledge the mystical aspect of it all the time. The greatest energy of all is love:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest
and the flip side of that coin is fear. Fear is why personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which was my journey’s primary lesson:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
The reason why we do not have FE today is not because Godzilla is alive and vigilant, but because almost nobody on Earth really cares. It is that simple. Of course, nobody wants to hear that, because the collective human ego harbors many conceits. The truth will set us free, and I seek people with a love of the truth, and they are like needles in haystacks. The path of truth is anything but easy in today’s world. Virtually everybody settles for the tripe that our indoctrination systems serve up:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
because it appeals to the ego and promises material rewards to those “in the club.” All of those ideologies rest on the assumption of scarcity. FE makes that assumption disappear, so all of those scarcity-based ideologies will quickly become obsolete, and that is what people are so afraid of when the subject of FE comes up. That is also why far less than one percent of the global population ever makes it past Level 5:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5
and I have only encountered a few level 12s in my lifetime:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
I regularly hear people wax mystical about energy, but few of them have a grounded, practical side of that understanding (excessive airy-fairy-ness is a handicap for this pursuit). I am more into the practical side than the mystical side of it, and New Agers are not my target audience:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage
In fact, no single group is my target audience, because no “group” that I have ever encountered is truly enlightened and loving. Love and sentience is the key to making FE happen (heart and head), which is the lynchpin of making Heaven on Earth manifest.
When you mention making FE manifest harmlessly if it is wisely done, the only damage done will be to scarcity-based ideologies and the belly-filling teddy bears of our egos. People are afraid of change, because in a world of scarcity they think they will be on the losing end of the change. This is part of the conundrum. In a world of abundance, everybody can win. Godzilla is largely comprised of dark pathers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving
and fear is the name of Godzilla’s game. Keeping humanity mired in fear, operating at the ego level and hence easily controlled, is what Godzilla is all about. Sure, it is a spiritually sick condition, but Godzilla is merely the master of a game that nearly all humans play today. Godzilla’s greatest fear (losing control) is only a magnified version of the average person’s fear. When the magnitude of FE begins to dawn on aspirants:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur
I have actually heard people say that it is Godzilla’s turn to step down so that they can run things for a while. The people laboring under those delusions will be the first to stick their daggers in your back. Most FE efforts collapse from within or are taken out by the local energy interests, without Godzilla needing to lift a claw.
So, I lost interest in the hero’s route to FE long ago. I have no interest in manipulating people with “godly deceptions” into saving themselves, and the many other futile approaches that I have either witnessed or was a part of:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#approach
I am trying love and enlightenment, where truth prevails and we lay aside all the scarcity-based baggage so we can walk that razor’s edge. Less than one-in-a-thousand people are even interested, or they quickly quit when they get a taste of what that path is like, but I am looking for those needles in haystacks. It is also great training for somebody with patience issues. :)
Best,
Wade
Limor Wolf
11th March 2012, 17:09
Hello Wade,
In so many ways, Israel, being the extension of the USA, is not disappointing with its 'education program' and is doing its best to invest in what is evident by the name of the action - TO PROGRAM it's citizen's minds, the young and the old - no one is left to be deprived. please don't discount its enormouse efforts, this is done for many hundreds of years, actually thousands, with the jewish designated Diaspora, Quite a production' they had there.
And the Oscar goes to..
I would say that what you name Bona fide 'terrorists' are simply leaders who executed the Zionist agenda, wich was and is a part of the 'Global Godzila's agenda' without fully knowing it and were as mind controlled as anyone else. I feel that the difference between today and than is the direct knowledge that nowdays puppet leaders hold in regards to the overall plan i.e Obama, Nethanyahu etc. It feels as if they are fully aware participants, but thats an arguable assumption and fit for another conversation.
It is very interesting and almost shocking (in a positive way) to learn how certain individuals along the human history are gathering knowledge and choosing to walk the truth, inspite of facing major difficulties on the way to bring betterment for all.. Like Dennis, and like yourself and others. it must be accompanied, besides the courage the same person is holding, with a grander plan on a 'cosmic' level..
A child being born needs to push himself to the world, with labor pains and sometimes accompanied with complications, FE probably needs to be born the same way, as well as our 'new world' and our own evolution as human beings. But above all there lies an inteligence that leave us free to play our own games, but puts an eye and gives a hint on the direction we need to go. I believe it is this 'force' that will help us to implement FE in our future lives, as it was done in other parts of this infinte existance, simply as a next step in our development, However, we are the ones that need to play this advancment and give birth to this child, and that is what you, Wade, are indefatigably doing.
As I understand, the possibility of FE will be more seriously considered (by the public) when the notion of abundance is more common within it's awarness (the public's), the one is tied with the other, does that make any sense? This has nothing to do with the physics and science aspect of it, since I know nothing about it, Thermodynamic cycles, magnets or cold fusion.. I'm maybe a 1 out of the 15 in Wades scale.. But after getting familiar with only a small percentage of Wade's material ,that is what has left its impressions on me. I hope that I am not very far from the truth of the situation. I look forward to learn more and get my limited understanding of this subject more broadened (within my own limitations :)
~*&^~*&
Limor
=== Edit ==
I have not noticed Wade's second response above, I will read it as soon as I can, but I do notice the words : Love, enlightement, truth and it resonates already .
blufire
11th March 2012, 17:25
Hello Wade,
Synchronicity is one of those elusive things that never cease to amaze and thrill me.
I have loosely followed your thread and have labored my way through many of your essays. The essays have been a major tool in forming many of my thoughts and goals. One pivotal issue for me though with the essays is I can never find practical or pragmatic ways to implement the knowledge I have gleaned from your wisdom.
. . . . and then by chance or synchronicity I was led to read your last post this morning. You said:
I am trying love and enlightenment, where truth prevails and we lay aside all the scarcity-based baggage so we can walk that razor’s edge. Less than one-in-a-thousand people are even interested, or they quickly quit when they get a taste of what that path is like, but I am looking for those needles in haystacks. It is also great training for somebody with patience issues.
I would like to think I would be one of those needles in the haystack or at the very least a rusty nail. ;)
I’m a bit of a maverick and tend to jump in the middle of something and by shear willpower and stubbornness get it done . . . . I would like very much at this stage in my life learn to refine my tactics. If you care to, you could read through a couple threads I have started on Avalon to see if I could vaguely be one of those needles you are looking for:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32007-Deep-in-Foxfire-Hollow--meanderings-of-a-slightly-crazy-mountain-woman-
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41993-URGENT-REQUEST-Timeline-Manifestation-Now-
I am not the first in my family to take a large seemingly unattainable goal to task. I would like you to meet my Mother through a blog from a cross county biker who just happened to come across my Mom. On his blog page you will see a picture of her and halfway down read his experience and encounter with her . . . . my Mom is Vivian Owens.
http://garybuffington.blogspot.com/2007/10/four-experiences-in-haysi-va.html
Through the blog you can see I come from hardy stock with a deep passion for stewardship for our beautiful planet. We tend to not take no for an answer and through trial and error and sheer tenacity figure out how to bring about a worthy goal . . . . even if that goal is moving a river with nothing but a masonry hoe and about 25 years.
Wade Frazier
11th March 2012, 22:35
Hi blufire. Thanks for your interest. I’ll put your posts on my list of stuff to read. FYI, when I get that conversation going, only people with real names will be a part of it. I don’t know where all this pseudonym stuff came from on the Internet, other than people’s fear and avoidance of personal accountability, but it is one of the Internet’s bad ideas. I put up with it at Avalon because they keep the trolls at bay. I have brought some Avalonians into a more inner circle of mine, and it has only been for people who use real names; they have to muster at least that much courage.
Hi Limor:
I am crazily busy preparing for moving my household this month, but I have a few minutes to spare. What I partly meant by "bona fide" terrorists is that the very word “terrorist” as it is used in the West today was coined by the British press in describing what those Zionists were doing, Menachem Begin in particular. When he was Israel’s Prime Minister, he never went to the UK because he was wanted for murder there for blowing up Jerusalem’s King David Hotel and killing about a hundred people. So, it is one of Orwell’s ironic lessons that Arabs are considered classic “terrorists” today, when the Israeli state is one of the greatest sponsors of real terrorism today, and that is state terrorism, which has always been the greatest instance of terror. But the powerful get to apply their labels, and the powerless end up getting stamped with them.
Since you live in Israel, you can let me know your take on what I have heard. I have heard that about a third of Israelis emphatically support what Israel has done to the Palestinians. Their attitude is similar to American “settlers” as they were dispossessing the American Indian. They view the Palestinians as subhuman, similar to how the Europeans/Americans viewed the American Indians:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#beasts
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#sheridan
They would be called the Far Right in the USA today. Their American counterparts love it that the USA has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, especially if the USA gets a steady supply of cheap oil out of the deal. Such Israelis may believe the rhetoric on the surface, but not even they really believe it too much; they recognize the naked self-interest in what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and its other actions in the region, and it sure feels good to be on the winning team. Another third of Israel (I mean the Jewish Israelis), if you get them alone, will readily admit that what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is not much different at all than what the USA did to the Indians (or Hitler did to the Jews during the 1930s), and they aren’t too proud of it, but few of them are going to speak up publicly about it, either. The final third really don’t care too much about the Palestinian situation. If Israel can somehow get rid of those pesky people, that would be a good thing, but they would rather not be bothered with the situation. For them, it is a great inconvenience when those “fanatical” Arabs become human bombs, and it can really mess up their lives if one goes off near them. That is what I have heard from people on the ground there.
On FE, it is like walking a razor’s edge to even getting to a productive understanding of the issue, much less taking action. The airy-fairy New Agers and the hard-nosed scientists both suffer from lopsided perspectives. I wrote some recent posts on what I am trying to do:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=442870&viewfull=1#post442870
and what I am not trying to do:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=443043&viewfull=1#post443043
The heart is the key, but the head needs to rise to a high level, too. Soft-headed New Agey thinking is not going to get there, and neither is the tunnel vision of the rationalist-materialist paradigm. The only people that can help this along at this stage, at least for what I am trying to get going, are comprehensive thinkers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
and my upcoming energy essay is intended to help people gain a somewhat comprehensive understanding. I gave a little preview in some recent posts:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
and that is my bag. Almost everybody who encounters this issue, if they get past the initial denial:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
fall off the rails into the many pitfalls that beckon:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
which are also Levels 6 to 11:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
The science and technology is important (the people hewing to those FE paths are the people offered huge sums to stop what they are doing http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make), and those who don’t really understand much about how the world really works (such as where our food comes from, where our electricity comes from, how much energy it takes to just put food on our tables, and how energy has always been the foundation of life on Earth and every human civilization http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions), end up being easily led astray. The world is full of hucksters and the deluded of every stripe, and on the energy issue, there are many dark alleys to wander into and pretenders on every street corner. I am doing what I can to help people navigate through that to productive understandings without wasting their lives in the pitfalls and distractions. Gaining experience on the leading edge of the FE issue is life-risking behavior, and if everybody had to learn how I did, we aren’t going to get there anytime soon.
A lot more to write, but I have to get back to work.
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
12th March 2012, 05:55
I've recently discovered Paul Lowe and I think one of his videos is appropriate for this thread.
In my opinion the clip below (5min) presents quite accurately the situation we find ourselves in and the two most likely outcomes. The difference being, of course, love and personal integrity :)
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David Hughes
12th March 2012, 06:53
Very sincere eyes on that guy. A pleasing tone to his voice too, seemed very genuine.
Wade Frazier
12th March 2012, 15:15
Thanks Ilie and Tyler:
Yes, similar theme. My bag is the economic end of it and what it all rides on. There are mystical and practical aspects of this situation. The Level 19s really have it figured out:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19
For the rest of us who still need to eat, we will make the turn, if we make the turn, via technology lovingly and wisely implemented. One day, we will not need technology anymore, but that is a long ways off.
Here is what I don’t want regarding what I am doing: people believe that energy is the root issue because I said so.
My goal is to help train the Ilies and Tylers (AKA David Hughes) of the world, and have them carry the ball far further than I have. I had two world-class genius mentors:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting
and without their influence I would not have walked the path that I did. I have no regrets, but what a difficult, preposterous journey it has been. I also grew beyond my mentors long ago. I would like to think that they would rejoice at that, but neither of them pays attention to what I am up to, and that is fine.
There are some people out there with the right stuff, but there aren’t many. There are far more pretenders than contenders. The New Age Guru game is one of the most common, as clever men with shoulder-length hair have their mystical patter that feeds them and builds their harems. I just encountered one last weekend, where one of those East-Meets-West Buddhist psychologists with the Freudian goatee and the books and the seminars was kicked out by his wife because he could not keep it in his pants and he has a “special student” in every city to keep him warm at night on his tours, and the women line up, from ages sixteen to sixty-four. Very few can walk the talk, and maybe because I am so familiar with the milieu, I can spot that game from a long ways off:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical
What Lowe has in his favor is that he is probably too old to get in much trouble. :)
That Wikileaks dude is a prime example of thinking that his position entitled him to the “perks” of celebrity, but with the game he is playing, skirt-chasing is suicidal, as he is finding out the hard way.
In the end, whether it is Lowe or me or Brian O, by ourselves we can only point the way. The message is the message; some of us botch it, and some days are better than others, but these issues and solutions exist no matter what Brian O, Dennis, or I do. It will be up to others to walk the FE and abundance path, and I know that I am only on the early stages of it, and I hope that the younger ones get to see further around the bend than I will. Maybe they will get a glimpse of it heading toward this reality before they are finished:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
If I have to come back, that is what I want to sign up for.
Gotta rush off to work.
Best,
Wade
Limor Wolf
12th March 2012, 18:44
Hello Wade,
I resonate with quite a lot of what you had to say regarding Israel's state of affairs. please keep in mind that my English is average, I will not refer to numbers or percentage of Israelis doing this or thinking that, it is only an impression anyway, but I would like to put an emphasis on the main factor as to why people's perceptions, behaviours, method of thinking or indifference are the way they are. With heavy heart I will say that most of the people in my country are not able, at this point, to understand or to grasp any so called ' free format' thinking as they are heavily conditioned and mind controlled, I would suggest that even more than the usuall, breaking that, depends at the level of the individual itself as we well know. Of course, it is the individuals that are forming the society.
In general, the Israelis feels (and are constantly told) they are under attack, that their existance is doubtfull, geographically - this very small country is surrounded by 'enemy states' no where to go to, where to run incase there's a need, No ability to take a train and cross the border as can be done in America or Europe, if you were born in Israel, you are stuck. This has some psychological effect and the result is being on a constant survival mod (consciously or unconsciously), it does not help when indeed you are being threatened with eridiction, all this is of course fabricated under the 'custody' of the controlers, but when you dont know it, you fight for your life. Historically - no need to dwelve much on that, just to mention that the psyche of a refugee is far too complex, but many times the stipulation is - the one who was once hurt has now becomes the one who do the harm (in order to not get hurt again?) , very much similiar to 'the beaten child syndrom' - some of those children are adopting the violent behaviour agains all odds. generally- This is a tough country to live in,in the psychological sense (there are much more difficult places to live, but relatively) when the problems floods you ,it is more convenient to think about solution while seating near a swiss lake not by a gas mask 'obligatory' listening to news every hour, when you fear not having enough for yourself (enough security, enough water ) you are practically a saint to think about another who at present already don't have all those... thats the illusion , of course.
My hopefull solution is to do all possible to bring to the awarness of the people, so called 'victims' from both sides, the knowledge that there is a third hand manifacturing it all, and with the way things are rapidly deteriorating right now, an organized and planned missile attack on Israel from the palastenian side, and a possible never ending 'revenge' as a response, all very much orchstrated by the Israeli government and 'friends'.. not without certain cooperation by some palestenian leaders, I'm sure, all on the back of the people. who knows where we are getting with this one.. time to wake -up.
That has probably not answered your question, Wade, but thats what I managed to write.. The middle east is a dense area and its citizens deal with a lot of stresses, on top of the five "tactonic stresses" quoted from your Homer- Dixon book. Little do people know about the true reality of the situation, that needs to be told to them.. than you will see very different attitudes.
In the meantime, I would really like to see this message by you hanging on bus stations, in stores etc:
" For those who think life is all about survival, everybody dying is not a success. For those who think that life is all about following the rules, whose rules? Rules drilled into out heads by rote so we could be controlled, or rules we discovered by our experience? How about the rule of love? For those who think life is all about winning, what kind of prize is it if everybody loses? What if everybody won? For those who think life is an intense emotional trip, how about if our lives were a trip of intense love? "
Back to FE -
It will be interesting to really understand what you actually mean by 'comprehensive understanding' , How many different aspects are you refering to in order for a person to 'get the picture' and to be able to distribute the message properly, the way YOU know will be useful, I will keep reading because, I am sure that you already laid your Doctrine here in a very explainable way, and I am yet to catch up on that.. The massivness of it all and the problematics on the road are pretty clear, How to penetrate through those blockages without having the minimum number of people who grasp the idea, the implementation and the potential of it in all areas of our our lives, is still a part of the vision that I need to know much much more about. for this I will stay quiet and try to observe the atmosphere in this thread. expecting whatever will come
Ilie - Thank you for the Paul lowe video,I already forward it to a couple of people, whoever understands it will understand.. we can not manifest an expantion in consciousness for other people, we can do the work only for ourselves, But, it is happening, somehow, and there is no denying that. This thread would not look the same a couple of years ago , Wade would have one or two participants if at all, what will be in a year from now? ~
Wade, have an easy move
~*&~*&
Limor
blufire
12th March 2012, 22:09
Hi Wade,
I’ll have to say I read your response to my post with a bit of amusement and a considerable level of surprise.
I am amused because I feel if you had taken the time to read through the threads I mentioned I don’t think you would have put me in this category of fear, lack of courage and avoidance of personal accountability. I am surprised because with your level of intellect and desire to approach the future with an open heart, mind, intensity and accountability you would jump to such a conclusion before any type of investigation or inquiry of who I am and my level of integrity and responsibility.
As to my real name as my avatar . . . . I have only recently posted my picture on Avalon because of the extremely (I feel) important project I am undertaking and my desire that those interested know I am real and very sincere and motivated. Posting my picture was a bit of a test. As a single woman, with all my teeth and at least giving the appearance of having “my poop” together, I tend to attract certain men folk who can become troublesome. I have been quite relieved that the pm’s I have received of a personal level have been very respectful. I believe this is due to the application process and moderation of this forum. But I will have to say that if a requirement of yours, to take our interaction and dialogue to a more intense level, is that I post my name as my avatar for the thousands of guests who come to Avalon daily to see . . . then I will have to respectfully bow out. I have posted my real legal name on my profile where you and other members can see, but I prefer that my name is not revealed (at this time) to the general public. I am not so naïve to think that if someone really wanted to know who I am that all it would take is a few well placed clicks of the mouse. But this at least holds a few at bay. I have had to deal with stalkers and harassment in the past and I find it purely an aggravation . . . I do not view myself a victim or fearful in this respect . . . .my last stalker was met with a 12 gauge pump action shotgun and three well placed shots over his pickup truck.
Just as you are looking for those needles in a haystack, so am I. I am tired and impatient of all the endless pontifications and eschatological debates. Let’s start putting some of your brilliant essays into action. I am aware, as you, that neither of us will see these come to fruition in our lifetime but I know two or three generations down the road others will thrive from the foundations we will build. My joy and great satisfaction when my soul’s energy returns to the cosmic fold will be that I at least attempted to accomplish what I desired when I returned at this time and place and this planet.
So ball’s in your court Mr. Frazier . . . .what do you say? . . . let’s “git ‘er done”.
sandy
12th March 2012, 23:07
Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to say welcome to our new readers and great to hear stories from your personal view points and lives. I love it!!
I too believe that babies are totally aware and as early as birth as I have seen it in their eyes and actions too! Paul Lowe (thanks Ilie) does say his truth and I appreciate that as like Wade says, so few want to hear it let alone stop and take a look and heaven forbid>>>>look within :)
Spring is finally arriving here and I love the sunshine, warmth and even the melting snow>>>>shoveling it away from the house today though to alleviate flooding issues hopefully. Great to be outside without all the winter gear and going to start seedlings soon in the house in prep to add more beauty to "Mother Earth".
Have been feeling very quiet as of late, a good and calm quiet but as always wondering what it is all about within?? I have always wanted a peaceful life and now that I have one with little to no real turmoil, I find it puzzling that I don't have a motivator mechanism. It is not apathy as I have plenty of empathy, compassion and care for others but realize no matter how I try and help it really is up to the individual person. It's like a stuck feeling>>>>>>>Damned if you do.........Damned if you don't!!
Sounds like you found a place Wade so best wishes for a smooth move and I only wished it was in my neighborhood so I could throw you a house warming party and welcome. :)
Wade Frazier
13th March 2012, 03:24
Hi all:
Oh boy, there is a lot to say, but I don’t have much time. Limor, that was one of the most wonderful posts that has been made on my thread. Thank you deeply. I could write about my Jewish Holocaust researches (which is what made me commit to stop drinking):
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#toward
or the sad stories told by my Palestinian refugee friend, or my many Jewish-American friends, or my cop pal who ran afoul of the Jewish mob:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
or my friend who recently visited a Palestinian exchange student who stayed with her in the USA, and she made the mistake of saying that she was visiting “Palestine” when she got off the plane in Israel, or how Chomsky was my most influential political writer, but not tonight. Your post was not wasted on me at all.
Hi Sandy:
Yes, the move is happening this month. That you are having a blessedly quiet time in your life is important to me. I am glad that somebody is doing it, and who deserves it.
Hi blunile. You have at least one friend here at Avalon whom I hold in high regard, but you are misinterpreting what I wrote. You say you want to be a needle. I interpret that to mean that you want to be a part of the conversation that I plan to eventually mount. Avalon is just the warm-up. Those people will use real names, and not so that the others in the conversation know who they are, although that will also be important, but so that it helps embolden the people around the world who will be watching, and there will be plenty, including Godzilla. I have written this on this thread more than once, so I only repeated what you seem to have not read, making my intention clear.
What I am envisioning is going to be done by real people, not people hiding behind masks, whatever their fears are (even if justified with stalkers and the like). If they can’t be a face with a name, they can’t be a public part of what I plan to mount, sorry. You may want to bow out now.
I have given this a great deal of thought for a long time. If people want to play the anonymous game with the public at Avalon, I don’t mind, but the needles will use real names. Not many posters on my thread have used real names, and some may cross the line and become needles one day, but that bridge is a ways away.
I have had to consider whether I would make an exception for somebody living in Iran, for instance, where free expression has a hard time, but I still am siding with them not being a part of that conversation. That Iranian filmmaker who is under house arrest still smuggled out his movie shot on his phone. I am not asking people to be heroes like he is, but I am not going to be making exceptions for Iranians or Chinese citizens, much less Americans.
It is time to stand up and be counted. Enough said.
To Avalonians in general, I am way too busy, as usual. My crazy career path is either being a one-percenter or my career is over. I don’t get anything in-between, so I end up working insane hours, and my body is slowly wearing out. I don’t know how many more years I can do it, but I have to try. I sacrificed my life to do the FE thing, spring Dennis from jail, do my site, and so on, and I have to make hay while the sun shines. People are constantly vying for my attention and energy, but there is only so much to go around. I have stated it before and I will state it again: Ilie is the gold standard of what I am looking for at Avalon. He has done his homework, and he is singing the Level 12 tune about as well as I have ever seen:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy
and that is really all that I am trying to do at Avalon – encourage more like Ilie to sing (after first learning the hymnal, which is about FE and abundance). I am not looking for heroes, not looking for people to get “active” on the FE front, and so on.
Best,
Wade
WhiteFeather
13th March 2012, 03:42
I've recently discovered Paul Lowe and I think one of his videos is appropriate for this thread.
In my opinion the clip below (5min) presents quite accurately the situation we find ourselves in and the two most likely outcomes. The difference being, of course, love and personal integrity :)
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Awesome Video Ilie, Awesome.
Wade Frazier
13th March 2012, 15:18
Hi:
Back to energy. I was gifted in math while young, and crunch numbers for a living today. When people do something like that for a living, they can simultaneously become impressed with what the exercise can tell them, while also realizing the limitations. Einstein once said that the more that a theory conforms to beautiful math, the more likely the theory is wrong. :) Numbers are abstractions of reality, and it may be a uniquely human trait to become mesmerized by the abstraction, mistaking it for reality. That is how symbol-worship happens (flags, “holy” books, statues, equations, etc.). The map is not the road.
That aside, quantitative analysis has its merits. I do it in my site to some extent, such as here:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
but only to give ideas of the magnitude of the issues. Graphic representations can also get the idea across, and I probably prefer them to numerical presentations. The picture below will be in my energy essay, making clear how small and delicate life on Earth is.
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In Brian O’s last years, he was trying to locate an assistant who could crunch the numbers on the traditional energy alternatives. During his early days of the energy game, working for Mo Udall and playing on Capitol Hill:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary#Political_activities
Brian began to see how wind, solar, and other traditional alternatives just didn’t cut it. He wanted to revisit it in his last years, I think as a way to deflate the crazy thinking in the mainstream about how the traditional alternatives have a prayer of solving our problems. Biofuels are completely insane. The calories of biofuel that fill an SUV’s tank could feed one person for a year. But they are bandied about, by energy companies no less, as some kind of viable alternative. And almost nobody says anything about it but nods their heads, or people think that buying a hybrid car is somehow contributing to solving our energy problems.
In earlier posts, I threw out some numbers on Energy Return on Investment (EROI) off the top of my head, which brings reality to the energy issue. Money is a poor measure of economic reality. During the 1930s, when the East Texas oil fields were in their early days of exploitation, the EROI was more than 100-to1, meaning that every unit of energy invested yielded a return of more than 100 units of energy. Today, the number in the USA is about 17-to-1. Biofuel alcohol literally has an EROI of about 1, and some scientists say that it is less than 1, to enter surreal realms. The declining EROI is largely because the energy needed for extraction has quadrupled, as oil wells need to be drilled deeper, and other technological tricks are used. Only about 30% of the oil in an oilfield was considered extractable in the 1960s. Today, with all sorts of tricks such as injecting water and carbon dioxide and new drilling techniques, they can remove up to half of the oil. The big oilfield discoveries were virtually all made by the early 1960s, with very little discovered since then. There has only been one million-barrel-per-day oilfield discovered since the 1950s, and no half-million-per-day fields have been discovered since the 1980s, and only two have been discovered since the 1960s. Humanity burns about 85 million barrels per day.
The easy oil is gone (except for Iraq and Iran and a few other spots, which is why the American military is so interested in those places), and the EROI keeps falling as more and more marginal sources of hydrocarbons are exploited. If you study the slaughter of the whales:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling
or the eradication of the forests worldwide, oil is going through a classic resource depletion cycle. After the cream gets skimmed off, the lower levels are consumed and eventually you are sucking at the dregs. The Canadian Tar Sands have been touted for years now as some kind of solution to our energy problems. The EROI on those tar sands is quite a bit less than 5-to-1.
In Homer-Dixon’s book:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
his primary touchstone was how Rome burned through its energy supply, with its EROI in continual decline, as it shipped grain, wood, and slaves from increasingly vast distances, and its EROI fell below that needed to sustain the Empire, and it slowly crumbled. Barbarian invasions were only symptoms of Rome’s decline, not a cause. Homer-Dixon and his research assistant crunched the numbers on building the Coliseum, and found to their surprise that 75% of the energy used to build the Coliseum went to feeding the oxen that hauled the building materials, and the vast majority of the material went into the foundation. The visible arches and other architecture that has survived for thousands of years, to be marveled at for its engineering prowess, was a tiny portion of the energy outlay. Crunching the numbers can lead to stunning insights.
Unfortunately, Homer-Dixon, like every other mainstream energy observer that I have seen (if we ignore Heinberg’s instant and naïve dismissal http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm) completely ignores what Brian called New Energy, but he makes it very clear that an industrialized civilization that is almost totally reliant on fossil fuels (about 85% of global energy industry production) is doomed, and soon. Conventional oil, the cream which runs industrial civilization today, at about 40% of our energy and virtually all transportation, began at 2 trillion barrels in 1859, when the first oil well was drilled in Pennsylvania. We have burned through half of that oil already, and the rest will be gone in my lifetime. It took Mother Nature hundreds of millions of years to accumulate those oil deposits, and we are going to burn them all up in two hundred years, for a depletion rate of around a million times as fast as it is being created:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#_edn6
That is slightly less than sustainable. :) So, when I hear people say that if we just shared that there would be plenty for everyone, it is hard not to laugh. Unless FE breaks free of humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, the industrialized world is going to hit the brick wall at about Mach 2. All the tar sands, heavy oil, natural gas frakking and other dregs-sucking might mean that we only hit the wall at Mach 1.5 instead of Mach 2. That stuff is not even a band aid, but just more promotion of delusion, and Godzilla must sit back and laugh when he sees all the so-called energy alternatives being bandied about, while FE is completely off of the table in virtually every mainstream and “progressive” conversation on the planet.
The fringe hears about would-be rampart-scalers all the time, with Steorn and Rossi being among the latest aspirants, but we have seen that movie too many times already (I starred in one of those episodes), with people trying the doomed capitalist route, getting patents and the like, as everybody keeps trying to pour the new wine into the old skins. The day that an inventor with the goods gives it to a worthy group, I am going to get interested. Until that day comes, I don’t want to hear about it. That worthy group has never existed before, and what I plan to do can be seen as trying to amass that worthy group, but for now, all I want is to help people learn to sing the abundance song. It can’t just be some New Agey chant of “Let’s just love each other,” although that is the key. The head needs to be engaged, and that is where comprehensive thinking comes into play:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
Vanishingly few people have ever learned to sing the Level 12 song:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
and if I can help that choir form, it may produce harmonic effects that will help catalyze the change. I have never seen anybody try it before. It takes hard work, on many fronts, to reach Level 12. It is not as easy as picking up the hymnal and humming along, but learning to sing the song I think can help.
I have to run off to work now.
Best,
Wade
David Hughes
14th March 2012, 01:37
Stats like this one hit home hard:
"It took Mother Nature hundreds of millions of years to accumulate those oil deposits, and we are going to burn them all up in two hundred years, for a depletion rate of around a million to one"
Alternative energy supplies about 15% of our energy needs and for various reasons will never provide the answer.
You also say above that an industrialized civilization relying on fossil fuels is 'doomed and soon' and that the remaining oil will be gone in your lifetime - which gives what - 30, 40, 50 years max?
Limor Wolf
14th March 2012, 02:13
Originally posted by Wade: :
".. So, when I hear people say that if we just shared that there would be plenty for everyone, it is hard not to laugh. Unless FE breaks free of humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, the industrialized world is going to hit the brick wall at about Mach 2.
No oil --> No electricity --> No food --> No manufacturing --> No modern life available
As a begginer I wonder what are the government white hats proposing in solution to this very acute problem. The Godzila's are all about using, abusing, depleting and running somewhere else. But if most scientists are aware that the various energy alternatives solutions such wind, sun and hydraulic are only going to keep the problem at bay, and that its not overly efficient, what is keeping them from examaning the possibility for Free energy ? I assume that this knowledge is not widespread, but what happened when it was brought to their attention? in other words, at what stage Free Energy is being stopped? Introduction, understanding, recognition, faith, research, legislation, implementation?
surely the last one is out of the question, but I would like to understand on what stage the supression beggins. sorry for the naive question, but if someone is willing to give a short answer to that...
I need to check the corridors of the establishment before I defect to the dark alternative territory :-)
Hi David, could you give a link to what you read on the benevolent white hats ?
David Hughes
14th March 2012, 03:56
Hi Limor,
I cant recall exactly where i heard it quoted but im almost certain it was in a 'Project Camelot' interview or one of Scott Jordan's interviews on Spectrum Radio Network (Scott follows this thread and posts from time to time).
Here's a link to the site where the interviews are archived:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/
The ones with Proctor Gamble, Adam Trombly, and obviously Wade that are on there are well worth listening to. FE is discussed in some detail.
Wades interview with Brian O' Leary on Project Camelot is a great overview too and should answer many of the questions you have.
Here's a link to that one:
http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html
Enjoy
Wade Frazier
14th March 2012, 04:38
Hi Tyler:
The other 15% is not alternative energy. It is nearly all nuclear and hydroelectric. What is called alternative energy - wind, solar, etc. - is still less than 1%, and at current rates might get up to 2-3% when the last barrel is sucked out of the earth.
On current global energy consumption, remember that only about one billion out of the seven billion humans alive today live in the industrialized world. China and India are industrializing, and will take all the energy that they can get their hands on. At projected rates, all the conventional oil will be gone within forty years. But the crisis hits as the rising demand and declining supply intersect, which is about now. What the USA is doing in Asia today is what Heinberg called Plan War, where the rich and powerful nations simply plunder the poor ones that are sitting on the energy deposits. Genocide of the “towel-heads,” awesome and escalating damage inflicted on the environment, and the only “solutions” we see are crap like chemtrails and other geo-engineering projects - quite a nasty tally.
Godzilla is insane, or diabolically sane, depending on your perspective. Holding onto power is his primary goal, even if it means destroying humanity and the planet. As I have said in my interviews and on my site:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal
it does not take a rocket scientist to see where things are headed, and the GCs are fractured, and most now want FE to come out, but they are not about to openly break ranks. My perception is that this show:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
was given by a faction of that disenchanted 70%.
Yes, I am praying for the miracle, too. It really would not take many people to focus on this issue in an enlightened fashion to push us over the top, and yes, that is the surreal part of my journey, probably more unbelievable than any other aspect of it. That utter coma that 99.9% of the population is in is what led Brian O to ask if humanity is a sentient species, and what sent me into a hell of a midlife crisis:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis
As I have written, everybody whom I respect who has played at the high levels has their moment of disgust.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#disgust
Those still active overcame it, and you just have to love humanity anyway. That is the hardest part of the journey.
If you were Godzilla, and you saw everybody so asleep and egocentric, how would you feel about the situation? My perception is that Godzilla is highly elitist and regards most of humanity as useless eaters that are good for stampeding off the cliffs once in a while, to thin out their ranks while providing entertainment. And if humanity wipes itself out, Godzilla might just cheer with a fiend’s delight (from his survival enclaves, of course). There is a plan to thin out the ranks to about 10% of the current global population, and it is not difficult to understand the perspective behind that plan. And I wonder how much I could really condemn Godzilla for taking that position, seeing where humanity is. Believe it or not, I have sympathy for Godzilla, and I know that factions of Godzilla really hope that I can get some kind of heartbeat and brainwave out of enough of us to make a difference (although other factions would take me out in an instant if they see me as a big enough threat, and I have already given them interesting days at the office). Do we prove Godzilla’s “uncharitable” views of humanity wrong? Can enough of us wake up in time? That is what I am trying to help along, and yes, you are seeing my “focus,” if you will, on doing this.
My seemingly “fanatical” focus has been with me since I was young, and is what it took to ace my academic career, keep my eyes and mind open in urban hell, go deep on my spiritual studies, chase Dennis after that voice led me to him, stand the ground when everybody else was either fleeing, cowering before Godzilla or helping him out, begin the twenty-years-and-counting project that is seeing me make all these Avalon posts, which is only a prelude to what I really plan to mount once I get that essay written. I won’t give up. And you might say that I have a long-suffering wife. :)
I owe her, big, for putting up with me for all of these years. We got together six weeks after the raid, and I met her two months before the raid, so she saw the whole enchilada.
But, we are on the cusp of the biggest transition our species will ever make, if we don’t wipe ourselves out in our idiocy and egocentrism. I think that, in the big picture, I can only be grateful that I had a chance to make a dent, even if it all goes down the tubes.
I am happy that you are keeping your awareness in the game, Tyler. Everybody who focuses on this issue is needed right now. Just being aware is enough for now, I think.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
14th March 2012, 04:54
Hi:
I see two new posts, and the short answer is:
Almost all scientists get trapped in Level 3:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3
if FE comes up. Brian O could have written the book on that one. I write on this thread about people like Amory Lovins, the physics department chair of one of the world’s most prestigious institutions, one of the world’s leading environmentalists, and even “visionaries” like the Venus Project founder, all blowing Level 3 or Level 5 gaskets when Brian even mentioned FE.
Yes, I have given several interviews on this subject:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews
Yes, Adam was on Scott’s show after me (Adam tends to follow me on the shows, it seems), here:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-starchild-program-zero-point-energy-part-1.html
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-mstarchild-program-zero-point-energy-part.html
Adam is the Real McCoy. He and Dennis are the only two people I know of that if most people heard their life’s stories, they would simply not believe it.
Of course, anybody who gets very far along gets taken out:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make
This is not short and easy subject matter, by any means. It usually takes a lifetime of shedding one’s indoctrination before people can even begin to understand the issues (and almost nobody even wants to try), and then it takes many more years to really get to a productive understanding of the issue (what I call level 12 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12), if the student survives the learning experience. That is why we call it a conundrum:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm
:)
Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
14th March 2012, 15:18
Hi:
I have a few minutes before I have to go to work, and this post was spurred by an email that I received this morning from a dear friend. Even among my friends, and those who are familiar with my life’s work and emotionally support me, almost nobody truly understands. They think that I am into “conspiracies,” that I really care what Rossi and the other rampart-scalers are up to, that I really care who becomes the USA’s president, or what the new talking head on the New Age scene (with his shoulder-length hair, mystical patter, lofty prior incarnation-status, and a burgeoning harem) has to say about “inside stuff” that he heard from his “black ops” buddies. That stuff is all circus and distraction, and it does not matter how many times I try to emphasize what is important and what does not matter in the big picture, people just can’t seem to get it, even when they are trying to. Or they think that we need to build some community in the boonies that can go after FE (that does not have a prayer – there is no place to run and hide), or bunker up for the catastrophe (some preparedness is healthy, but those preparing for the siege are missing the boat), or that I need to go on national TV with my message, and so on.
What I have found that those perspectives all have in common is thinking like a victim. And that comes from living in fear. Fear is the problem, and love is the answer. It is literally that simple. Also, when you begin to really understand how the world works (as in the industrialized world operates on fossil fuel energy, which is quickly being depleted), and develop a comprehensive perspective:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
all that circus and distraction can be seen for what it is. Godzilla is only a symptom of our collective malaise, not a cause. If 0.0001% of humanity actually woke up, saw the root, and refused to hack at branches, we would have been on our way to this world long ago:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
Helping people wake up, so they can see the forest from the trees, so they stop hacking at meaningless branches, is my bag. The rest really does not matter in the big picture. Can we wake up in time? We will see.
Best,
Wade
Limor Wolf
14th March 2012, 19:11
I do suspect that anyone who was familiar with this knowledge, once upon a time, in past lives and existances will be more open to hear it now. those that spent many earth lives in a loop will deny this . The purpose might be to bring this knowledge of abundant energy existing all around us (wich is basic) to assist the PLANET, maybe not to the people..
Hope I am wrong.
somewhat unproven right brain remark
Debra
15th March 2012, 00:07
CdnSirian,
I have been on this thread now - my first foray - for the last 4 hours, with only one 3 minute trip to relieve myself. What a fantastic, awesome place this is. Your reflection - on a much longer time spent digesting Wade´s work, Wade´s way and Wade´s will to make this a reality, has moved me greatly.
Others on here, I have read your thoughts as well, and your deeply considered questions for Wade's ongoing dissertation on FE and also for your own internal calls to help bring this age into the light.
I am joining you. I have much to read here, that is for sure. My hope is that I can be one of the Johnny Appleseeds too. My mind is brimming with ideas of how I can - in my line of work and life - plant FE seeds and nurture them - in some way - so they reach the hearts of the human collective.
Wade, I have been side noting on an newly opened document in your name and I have a list of questions but I will leave this and filter them out to you as I go along.
I just want to say to you. Hello and thank you, for all the energy you give - you are abundance embodied.
Best Wishes Come True
Zebra
Wade, I was astounded last year when I found your site. I was long tired of the conspiracy sites (those small crumbs of truth connecting a dot here and there), and I found your essays riveting. I read them for weeks in my spare time, some twice and thrice. Being a glutton for information (many years ago my dad came back from a year in Vietnam working in "treaty administration" and told me to never believe in the official report regarding almost anything), I really appreciate the depth of research that has gone into your essays.
I was able to spend a year out of North America as a young adult, and it was like being on a different planet. Several different ones.
I experienced more of the Unlearning process when I decided to home school my child for a while, after a death threat was delivered at public school. The school admins wouldn't deal with it so we said goodbye to the system. Mixing with experienced home schooling parents was a real eye opener. My child decided to go back to school, and later was able to self-educate in a very technical field. My family stopped vaccinating many years ago and my child has never had one.
I used to get teased when I put the grey-looking nitrate free hot dogs on the table "mom, you're one of those they are going to put into the camps.."
My child called us on "the rich end of poor" and as a child does, felt left out of a lot of stuff his affluent friends were doing/having. I would say let's turn on the international news and see what the 12 year olds are doing in the Congo today...mining diamonds?" I still am on the rich end of poor for a North American but I feel like I'm in the lap of luxury whenever I turn on the tap and hot water comes out. I take a moment every day to throw out a vision of every single person having that, and much more. I borrow the visions posted on PA, I mix and match them and throw in my own stuff.
I rarely feel like I have anything to add, and I squirm while talking about myself. I have said anything possibly relevant to who I am and why I'm here, so whew don't have to do that again...
I appreciate your, and everyone's inspiration I receive from reading here almost every day. Regards all.
Dennis Leahy
15th March 2012, 01:16
A quick aside:
For anyone who read Wade's account of Dennis Lee being unjustly slapped with a ridiculous 1 Million dollar bail in Ventura County, CA, and the tale of the legal justice officials of that county being insane, rogue gangsters - and you maybe, just maybe, thought Wade was embellishing the story just a little a bit, well, read this: Raw Milk Farmers in Ventura (http://www.naturalnews.com/035197_James_Stewart_Sharon_Palmer_Ventura_County.html) You'll see this viper's nest of badge-wearing criminals are still there, and still despicable.
Dennis
CdnSirian
15th March 2012, 02:44
A quick aside:
For anyone who read Wade's account of Dennis Lee being unjustly slapped with a ridiculous 1 Million dollar bail in Ventura County, CA, and the tale of the legal justice officials of that county being insane, rogue gangsters - and you maybe, just maybe, thought Wade was embellishing the story just a little a bit, well, read this: Raw Milk Farmers in Ventura (http://www.naturalnews.com/035197_James_Stewart_Sharon_Palmer_Ventura_County.html) You'll see this viper's nest of badge-wearing criminals are still there, and still despicable.
Dennis
Yes, I have been watching this Dennis. A horrible series of events for these people. It's kind of like a "rendition" situation, without even leaving America. And we are so helpless to help them unless we have a ton of money or super lawyers.
If I were them I would try and get the lawyers who did the Erin Brockovich case.
I've driven through Ventura Ca. It is an attractive little town...one would never suspect such corruption and cruelty.
Wade Frazier
15th March 2012, 03:38
Hi Limor:
You may be right that it depends somewhat on past life experiences. I discuss Michael’s soul age idea plenty on this thread:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael
and my alleged Atlantean past. I’ll buy the idea that the person’s soul has to be in the right place to be able to comprehend the issues.
Hi Zebra:
Thanks for the kind words. I am not sure what I call this thread. It was not planned, but just kind of happened. Consider it a warm-up for what I am planning to do before long. I actually like this thread of Ilie’s:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy
better than this one, or the thread that TelosianEmbrace began:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth
I don’t know what will become of this thread when I get that other conversation going. We will see. Thanks for reading.
Hi Dennis:
Oh, the stories I could tell. I am not sure if I have repeated it at Avalon, but I have been regularly told by friends and family that they saw Ventura County featured on some TV show of the most corrupt American counties. It regularly makes the top five. That has probably happened ten times. And that is putting aside the Rodney King verdict:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King#Trial_of_the_officers
or Gary Wean’s adventures:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
Those goons have a racket going there that has literally made gangsters envious. Gary once met with a retired mobster who moved to the California sun after retiring from the Chicago “business,” and the mobster was amazed at what a slick racket they had in Ventura County. A lot of the corruption has been around land deals, as Ventura County became an LA suburb. Political murder has been commonplace there. The Superior Court judges there control the drug trade, and I could go on and on. The biggest land developer was literally a gangster who made people disappear. Plenty of corpses wearing cement shoes are on the ocean floor between those beaches in the Beach Boys songs and the Channel Islands.
I grew up next door to the DA’s secretary, and my father knew that the DA was basically a gangster long before I hit town with Dennis. I knew of some of the skullduggery there, but not until they lowered the boom on us did I really start hearing the stories, meeting Gary, etc. I lost plenty of innocence in those days. :) One of my buddies became Ventura’s mayor long ago, after I left it. He got taken out in a scandal. I doubt that I will ever do it, but it would be interesting to hear what he has to say.
You see me state all the time at Avalon that I discourage gung-hoers from finding out the hard way about Godzilla, and it feels futile to even try, as many are hell-bent on learning the hard way. I can’t even keep people from finding out the hard way about Ventura, and some of it is surreal. One pal actually moved to Ventura County a few years back, after knowing my story very well. Ah, but the sun, surf and Ojai ambiance is so seductive. Then I get the news not long afterward that the county stole the house that he lived in. I thought, “Why are you telling me this? You know what I went through there, and you just had to move there?” I have friends and relatives who just can’t stay away from the place, and they actually get in trouble with the county officials. It is dumbfounding to me. I have told them that I am not going to bail them out in Ventura County. They can rot in jail if they want me to save their bacon. About once a year, somebody close to me tells me some tale of woe about being screwed over by Ventura County. It is beyond strange. I never want to see the place again, but I hear stuff like this all the time.
On my journey, it is hard to know how much was Godzilla and how much was local corruption. Bill the BPA Hit Man was definitely a Godzilla asset and he ended up killing one of Dennis’s employees in Seattle:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death
So, the Seattle takedown was arguably more evil than what happened in Ventura. In Boston, they were also sharpening their axes:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#middlesex
but we left before they could swing them. The first undoubted Godzilla contact was that first offer in Boston:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten
and they added a couple of zeroes in Ventura:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
but it is evil all over. Ventura sure does not have a monopoly on it, although the crap we heard out of their mouths was hard to believe at times:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#lie
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#penalty
putting aside my life’s pivotal moment:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces
Ah, the memories! :)
Gotta go run and go play husband.
Best,
Wade
David Hughes
15th March 2012, 03:48
Re the $1 million bail.... I think i remember reading on Wade's site that the form Dennis failed to file has a compliance rate of 0.25% with only 1 other guy ever being convicted of the crime, and his case was thrown out on appeal.
Something that stands out for me is Wade's impeccable honesty. I have read every single one of his posts and never once have i found him to contradict himself either here or on his website. Some of the claims within his essays and posts did seem initially to me to be a bit far fetched, but that had more to do with my lack of understanding of how the game is played rather than anything else.
sandy
15th March 2012, 05:13
Well FE was definitely on my mind most of the day!!
Had a touch of reality today which of course left me yearning for the release of FE. First thing this morning I received notice that the town is on water advisory and all water is to be boiled for drinking, cleaning dishes, sponge bathing little ones etc. I thought boy this one is a little more in depth than others I have received in the past few years so the suspected bugs must be more potent. Of course nothing about what they are working with regarding contaminates, but what else is new. So, I was happy that at least I had a supply of water I could utilize if need be but was okay to boil water otherwise.
Well it wasn't an hour later and the power went down. I fiddled around for a while thinking it will come back on shortly and not so lucky. Over 4 hours later it finally reappeared. In the meantime this is a little of what I went through:
Well okay then I guess the Universe wants me to be more productive than sitting at the computer. Decided I would do some house cleaning to kill time. Just as I was going to drag out the vacuum I realized I have no power to run the darn thing. Well then I will sweep and wash the floors>>>>>>>>>got the pail to fill with water and NO WATER, never mind hot or contaminated water. Cleaning was soon forgotten and I decided to cut my hair but it wasn't too long and I realized I won't be able to use the clippers to finish the job or wash it when I complete the task so forget that. Okay lets EAT>>>>>>>>no stove to cook on, no toaster, no water to wash fruit or vegies, rationing the coffee I had made earlier and relishing it even though it was cold, no plumbing and no heat>>>FE WHERE ARE YOU!!
Thank God the sun was shining and I could feel the warmth coming in the front window. Time to read:
HELLO MICHEAL ROADS and together we spent the rest of the time visioning the wonders of a world of abundance and the joy engulfing the world as a result :)
Wade Frazier
15th March 2012, 12:17
Hi Tyler:
As you may know, anybody who does their homework knows that I am understating my story:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm
I still have never encountered anybody who had to gumption to just get one of Dennis’s books, or even one of Brian’s. I am a central character in several books (I am even a fictional character), and Dennis’s The Alternative, in particular, is chocked full of official documentation about what went down in Ventura.
It is my assailants and the media who make it up as they go, such as Mr. Skeptic:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm
who gets to regularly spew his slander and libel about Dennis on national TV.
One thing that I have always done in my writing is to try to let the facts speak for themselves. It is generally only white, middle class people who find what we survived in Ventura extraordinary. A black, Mexican or other underclass person is going to look at what happened in Ventura and say, “So, what else is new?” Or an American Indian:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint
Europe did not conquer the world because they had a monopoly on virtue. The “great” men who made the history books of Europe’s global conquest were almost invariably liars, thieves, and murderers, and in the USA we name national holidays after them, such as Father George and good ol’ Chris Columbus:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm
The facts are readily available, but it really does not matter. We ended up more in Huxley’s Brave New World than Orwell’s 1984. The information to shatter the herd’s comforting illusions is largely available, but almost nobody cares to examine it.
The fact that none of my critics have ever done their homework is just more evidence of my primary lesson:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
On the other hand, Gary’s book is one where people can wonder what he was smoking:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
but I knew some of the names he named before I read his book, some of whom were friends and neighbors, and I already independently knew that some of his stories were true. On his JFK story, I spent more than ten years and read about ten thousand pages of material before I publicly opined on it. Nothing I saw ever contradicted it, and as more evidence comes to light, it keeps confirming it. It has been satisfying to see his book increasingly cited in serious JFK books in recent years.
When somebody like Ralph McGehee tells his story:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
the American censorship apparatus goes into high gear to ensure that his story never sees the light of day. Only incredibly heroic efforts make it past that gauntlet, but Ralph is largely unknown anymore, although I doubt that they will ever be able to erase his Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_McGehee
Credibility is an interesting thing. I find that credibility has more to do with how far somebody is willing to get out of their armchairs and go chasing after the truth than it does with the person making the claims. I admit that I sail in waters that are highly controversial, so it is best to let the facts speak for themselves.
Hi Sandy:
Yes, when a person in the industrialized world gets their power turned off, they can gain a very quick and keen appreciation of how it all runs on energy. Glad you spent some quality time with Michael. :)
Best,
Wade
Isthatso
15th March 2012, 20:37
Hi Wade,
I'm wondering if you could comment, or provide links where you have previously commented, on the belief held by Lindsey Williams that there is no peak oil crisis;
http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/lindsywillaimsvideos22may07.shtml
I see his video's are in Avalon threads back in early 2011. This is still all new to me and I am trying to get my head around it.
I am including some of your posts on another forum and Lindsey Williams was referenced;
http://hm.dinofly.com/UP/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2982#p2982
Apologies if you have covered this already..
Hi Sandy,
We had 3 days without power a couple of years back and it was quite the shock! It helped me realise how vulnerable we are and I could see how disease would spread very quickly if it was long term.
Warm wishes...
Lee
Wade Frazier
16th March 2012, 04:14
Hi IsThatSo:
Boy, Williams is still around. I have his book on the “non-oil crisis” that I got twenty years ago or so. My first real alternative political exposure was to people like Williams during my days with Dennis (Dennis’s migrant farmworker background had plenty to do with it). It was kind of a bizarre time, on several fronts. I am sympathetic to a lot of what the far right is concerned about, but their conspiracism is paranoid and counterproductive, IMO.
Here is one link, and you can find others, on Gull Island in Alaska, which is where Williams says they are hiding the oil:
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/690171677.shtml
Williams is focused on the skullduggery aspect of the energy situation. The oil companies themselves are not behind suppressing FE, although it seems fashionable to think so, so that Godzilla has a face. You have never heard of the organization behind suppressing FE at the high levels. They don’t operate that way.
I studied the far right for years, and I have had people try to initiate me into their “scientific” investigations which are usually centered on ideas like “the Bible is literally true” and other right wing, evangelical themes. There is often a racist undertone to it. The far right stuff is often marginally valid, IMO. That does not mean that the structuralists are right, either:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
Both of them miss the boat, by and large, as they grind their particular axes.
From what I know about the oil business, and I have not worked in it, oilfield discoveries peaked fifty years ago, and the world is pretty much scoured, looking for oil. It repeats that standard pattern of global resource depletion, like with the whales:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling
Not many places left to look, and none of them are the easy oil, except Iraq, Iran and a few other spots. To say that some oilfield as big as Saudi Arabia is just sitting there in Alaska, waiting for the time to pop the cork, is quite a stretch, especially when you read Williams’s account of it. You can’t drill a few holes and make that kind of statement of an Arabia lying down there, but a few oil execs were able to cover it up. You hear stuff like that fairly often, but it has always turned out like most “conspiratorial” news: hot air and no substance.
I see similar dynamics in numerous fields. The origin of oil has been the subject of controversy for a long time, and most famously, Stalinist-era Soviet scientists theorized that oil was abiotic in origin, meaning that it did not develop from life forms. It is a discredited theory today, partly because of the rise of plate tectonic theory, tools such as mass spectrometers, and other advances. Shallow seas and very particular conditions are thought to have led to the sediments that became oil. The world’s coal beds are thought to have been created hundreds of millions of years ago when the first woody plants appeared, and for millions of years, bacteria and animals could not digest them, so lignin-laden early trees just stacked up after they died. Plate tectonics buried those sediments and dead trees, and where the geological processes were just right, oil and coal came out of it. There is a fringe today that disputes that view and states that coil and oil were not created from life forms, and there is plenty more than has been discovered so far, if we only know where to look. Land has held nearly all of Earth’s biomass for hundreds of millions of years, and there is a lot more coal than oil.
For another contentious issue, take the increasing carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere. Long ago, and I mean long ago, the atmosphere had maybe twenty times the carbon content as it does today, and it has fluctuated over a fairly wide range over the eons, and the radiation-trapping properties of three-atom-plus molecules are well known, and carbon dioxide is thought to provide a big boost to global temperatures. Humanity today vents more than a hundred times more carbon to the atmosphere than volcanoes do, primarily by burning hydrocarbon fuels. The effect is one of the most measureable effects of humanity on Earth’s physical systems. There is no denying that humans have increased the carbon dioxide of the atmosphere by about 40% since the industrial era started. But denial sells well, so there has long been a bevy of scientists who work for the hydrocarbon lobby who first denied that there was global warming.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#conflicts
Now that that can’t be denied any longer, they deny that humans have anything to do with it. And they have all sorts of allies whose main motto is “business as usual.” Many interests are using the global warming issue to score political and economic points, but that does not mean the issue is not real. Brian O was particularly disgusted with one of his former colleagues who sold out to the hydrocarbon lobby and became a big name global warming denialist.
Gotto go to bed now.
Best,
Wade
David Hughes
16th March 2012, 04:21
Hey Wade,
Just to briefly address your question...
"If you were Godzilla, and you saw everybody so asleep and egocentric, how would you feel about the situation? My perception is that Godzilla is highly elitist and regards most of humanity as useless eaters..."
Agreed. Godzilla most probably views the majority of humanity the exact same way that Hitler viewed the Jews.
I have a lot of sympathy for the masses though. The way the world is structured makes it extremely difficult for them to find out real truth. The average person thinks they are learning the truth from teachers at school and lecturers at University. They think politicians and governments have their best interests at heart. They think the law is there to protect them. Doctors and priests are pillars of society. Once they've taken on a huge mortgage they then have to spend decades working a 9-5 job that they don't particularly like to fund it. There is then very little time, energy, and inclination left to educate themselves any further.
Anyone that does do some research and questions the game has their lack of credentials, qualifications, and mental stability come into question. The whole thing is beautifully engineered. It's a prison build by the inmates and 99.99% of them couldn't be more oblivious to it all.
Being awake and aware of how the 'real world' operates is obviously no easy task. It's a rare type of individual that even makes it as far as even reading this thread, never mind understanding it all, or bothers hanging around trying to. What spurs me on is the pursuit of the truth.
How do you get people to care about anything other than themselves?
Wade Frazier
16th March 2012, 04:35
Hi Tyler:
Yes, leading by example is probably the most powerful path. But in our world, the mind-boggling effort by somebody like Dennis is met with the sledgehammer, slanderous national TV shows, and so on. I see why Jesus got strung up. Depending on what source you might pay attention to, highly evolved souls are now incarnating, our DNA is getting upgraded, the space brothers are waiting to help, Godzilla died in his sleep, and the Ascended Masters might show up. I would take any or all of them. But, I know that each one of us needs to find our inner strength. The answer is love. Love is the key to FE, in practical and mystical ways, which I have written about plenty. But in a world of scarcity, and all the brainwashing, this is the thorniest of conundrums.
I am trying to see if enough people can raise their vision high enough to reach Level 12, and create some harmonic effects. I actually hope that youngsters like you and Ilie, who have not been clobbered yet, will pick up the ball that I am tossing your way. Not to go running into the meat grinder, but to go deep, learning the song, and singing it. The subject matter on my site is not trivial. Healing the sick, feeding the poor, ending the idea of poor…it seems like worthwhile subject matter, and I wish that I had a year or two off so I could do those subjects more justice, but I can only find time to get a comprehensive essay done that might just crystallize the paradigm for more people, maybe enough so that we can start moving the boulder. I won’t kid anybody that it is easy work, but I know of nothing with more potential for healing, beauty and a future that can be hard to believe than FE.
Great questions, young man.
OK, now I am hitting the sack.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
16th March 2012, 15:59
Hi:
Briefly, before I go to work… The first thing that virtually everybody tries to do when they get wind of FE and what it can mean is to go spread the New Gospel to their friends, family and colleagues. That is a very early-stage perception, but it seems that everybody needs to go through that foolish, exuberant stage. I have watched family relationships, friendships, and careers end when newbies played that game. I really don’t want to watch anymore, as newbies rush off to proselytize, try to make the FE paradigm palatable to the masses, etc. Proselytizing is the Old Way, and is in no way suitable for making FE happen, unless the person is like Dennis and can survive being burned at the stake regularly.
Machiavelli was right:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli
People are going to begin to wake up to FE when it is delivered to their homes. Until that day happens, or the ETs land on the White House lawn, the masses are not going to wake up to FE and abundance. That is just where they are. Think of it like Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs
As long as the masses are at the survival level, and mesmerized by the bread and circuses served up by the social managers (and conspiracism is part of that circus http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism), they aren’t going to be receptive to a message like mine. I watched Brian O play the Paul Revere of FE, and watched him ride across the world, using his credentials to bang on all the big doors that you can think of:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere
After several years of as honest a ride as you can take, Brian wondered if humanity was a sentient species. It has been painful to watch that scenario play out over and over. The masses are not ready, not for talk. So, people like Dennis have tried the bait of self-interest (capitalism), playing the religion and “patriot” cards, and so on. He is appealing to scarcity-based ideologies:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
that attract the semi-sentient. The social managers can almost effortlessly get Dennis’s mob to turn on Dennis, and he ends up getting the heretic roast, as Godzilla looks on and laughs.
After surviving a few of those episodes and witnessing many others, I slowly realized that that game was a loser. More than 99.9% of humanity is deeply in the thrall of their indoctrination, and the so-called smart ones are actually more mired than the not-so-smart ones. I call their trap Level 3:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3
Almost everybody who ever hears of FE and the issues it faces has some instant “solution” to the conundrum (if they can make it past Level 5), which is usually along the lines of:
1. Let’s go kill Godzilla with a special team (what they don’t get is that you don’t find Godzilla; he finds you);
2. Let’s sneak past Godzilla (perhaps the most foolish notion of all);
3. Godzilla is not real, but exists only in your imagination;
4. Let’s storm Godzilla’s castle (again, he does not hang his shingle out), and the would-be castle stormers will turn on each other before they even get past the moat;
5. Let’s negotiate with Godzilla (another charming delusion);
and so on (these are generally Levels 6 to 11). There are no easy answers to this conundrum. The primary problem is that not enough people care enough, which I discovered the hard way:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
which nobody wants to hear, which is just another flavor of denial. Humanity is currently an egocentric species that puts self-interest above all else, and that attitude just might be our doom. Can enough people be found who really care, have the courage to lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance, for at least a little while before they go back to the daily slog? That is what I am trying to find out. I am not ready to take my “show” on the road yet, and I doubt that I will ever go on TV to make my case, although I am regularly invited to.
Those interviews that I did with Scott, Bill and Kerry:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews
I think are enough for now, to get the gist of my message across in a verbal forum. I think I like the last one that I did with Scott the best:
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?3558-Nexus-Interviews-Wade-Frazier-Free-Energy-in-3-Stages&p=24879#post24879
probably because it followed my agenda. :)
My year has been hard so far and is only getting harder. I am going to do my best, but we will see if I can get that essay done this year. I have given enough previews of it, I think:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
to have at least its outline sketched. That essay will probably be book-length, and will go fairly deep and broad, so that the paradigm that has guided humanity forever can be seen for what it is, and what the end of energy scarcity can mean.
I keep threatening to go quieter at Avalon, but I trust this process and think that beating the drum with the Ilies, Tylers, Ernies, Dennises, Sandys and the rest of my pals here is important. You may have noticed that the hits to this thread are growing. It has been about 500 per day lately. Once in a while I hear from somebody who seems to be really getting my message, and they are waiting for me to raise my game, finish that essay, and begin the deep conversations. All I can say is, “Stay tuned!” :) I am doing my best, juggling several balls at once, trying to weave my way down the field. I don’t know where it will end up, but I have my ideas of what I would like to see:
A nugget of heart-centered sentience, one that has a comprehensive awareness and a keen understanding of where energy has always fit into the human journey, and some idea of what the transformative potential of clean, free, abundant energy can be for humanity (humans living in abundance can move up Maslow’s Hierarchy a level or two), and how we can not only repair a great deal of the damage that humanity has been inflicting on our dear Mother Earth, but can also enter into a partnership with her, and Heaven on Earth becomes feasible, and a world that could look like this:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
becomes at least possible. Without FE, it can’t.
Not many out there can currently become Level 12s:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
but it won’t take many. Several thousand singing the song, because it is their song, not mine, can do it, I think. The planet may only have several thousand who can do it, and the Internet can help me find them, and that is what I am trying to do. It is really no more or less than that, and I am trying to stay focused on that, but the people pulling at me and trying to get me to enlist in their agenda are many, and I am in a semi-reclusive state. I can’t play the man-of-the-people game that Dennis and Brian played, and I am trying to do something different. Maybe Dennis will finally scale the ramparts, and if so, I will be watching and cheering from a distance, but this work I am doing will not be finished. If FE appears on the world scene, the work will only be starting, but it should be fun work.
Gotta run off to work and another long day.
Best,
Wade
Limor Wolf
16th March 2012, 22:15
Originally posted by Wade: " but it won’t take many. Several thousand signing the song, because it is their song, not mine, can do it, I think. The planet may only have several thousand who can do it, and the Internet can help me find them, and that is what I am trying to do"
Hello Wade,
I am curious how you reached the estimation of only thousands of people wich are enough to carry the FE torch, in a world of seven biliion inhbitants...
Is it based on a gut feeling? a logic calculation,etc..
When seeing news items such as this one (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/dutch-researchers-invent-process-turn-plants-plastics-223821075.html)posted on another forum and being cheered to by so called 'thinking' people under the title "progress", that makes me lose hope for a split second.
For researchers to invest money in finding solutions that will do nothing but deplete our planet earth further more... thats an absolute rubbish. Are they not understanding the problem in the first place?
Maybe a few thousands of people are needed to get the ball (the thought) rolling, but what about others who need to catch the ball and pass it to someone else in order to keep the game being played and finaly won?
~*&^~*&^
Limor
Wade Frazier
17th March 2012, 04:02
Hi Limor:
Great question. It was what I have estimated from being “on the ground” in the FE milieu, trading notes with fellow travelers, and my experiences in diverse fields after my first FE days in the 1980s.
Probably most importantly, when the dust settled in Ventura, I realized that if fifty of us had stood firm like Mr. Professor and I did, we had a fighting chance to make FE happen. If there were a hundred of us, it would have been easy:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes
But there were only two of us standing up to them (four, if you include Dennis and his wife), and it wrecked our lives. It ended up shortening Mr. Professor’s life:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey
It was when that dust was settling that I ruefully discovered that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
It was the most terrible lesson of my journey.
After I left Ventura, I threw myself into my researches,
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books
and was reaching out to people like Noam Chomsky before long:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky
Noam was gracious, but would not get involved. I began reaching out to others, such as Brian O in 1995, when he published his Miracle in the Void and wanted to be the Paul Revere of FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#revere
and the next year I had my second stint with Dennis:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books
and met Mr. Skeptic in cyberspace:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends
right after I put up my first site, and took on all comers for several years, with my email address on my site. I also began reaching out through the Internet all over the world to progressives and any other groups who might be receptive to the FE message. Virtually nobody was home, anywhere.
In 2001, Brian told me how his “Paul Revere” ride went, and he openly wondered if humanity was a sentient species. When I heard that from Brian, I knew what he discovered as he banged on all the doors. It was no big surprise.
It was a long, slow process of coming to my view today, and what I wrote above were only highlights.
I eventually came to realize how extraordinary my journey was. Of the many thousands of people that Dennis has interacted with on his journey, Mr. Professor and I were about the only two people who proved incorruptible. I am about the only person outside of Dennis’s family that he trusts, and I was about the only person in the FE field that Brian trusted. I am no saint, so hearing that from both of them was a pretty sad and lonely feeling. And a voice in my head led me to Mr. Professor and Dennis, so I was misled to some degree on how many people in the world really have the right stuff. Dennis is about one-in-a-billion, and the only person on Earth that I know of who can successfully complete this application:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany
and somebody like Mr. Professor was not much more common. Something a lot bigger than any of us brought us together. I eventually came to accept that there are only a handful like Dennis on the planet. Brian’s credentials were rather unique, and I never met anybody else like Mr. Professor. Somewhere along the line, I realized that the hero’s route to FE did not really have a chance, because there were not enough heroes.
I let Brian talk me into co-founding NEM:
http://www.newenergymovement.org/
and that was another sobering experience. After NEM, I resolved that I was finished signing up for other people’s projects. I kept helping out Dennis and Brian over the years when they asked me to, but I also declined their invitations to get back in the game. Doing Brian’s bios and helping him write that DOE proposal were my last favors for him:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm
http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html
We did some interviews together in his last years:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews
and he was planning to promote my plan for making FE happen when he died:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing
Anyway, that is a long way of saying that during my adventures and subsequent experiences, I realized that the hundred heroes model did not have a prayer because there were not a hundred heroes to find. I then went through a phase of trying to interest progressives and other potential groups in FE, groups that seemed to have relatively high integrity. I slowly came to realize that nobody was home on the progressive front, whether it was the radical left:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm
the free software movement:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm
and so on. Also, during those days, as I fielded countless reactions of denial and fear, which came in many shapes, and traded notes with people like Brian, I began to categorize the various reactions that I was seeing. They eventually became my layers of the FE Onion:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#peeling
Also, in 2002 I was introduced to Bucky Fuller's work and learned that I was a comprehensivist:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller
I am far more consciously comprehensive today than I was when I wrote the 2002 version of my site. And when I began to grok Fuller, a lot became clear to me for why FE was so difficult for people to wrap their heads around. Almost without exception, people really did not understand the energy issue. What I lived through was just another conspiracy theory to them, no different than some guy trying to bell the Rockefellers’ tail. They really did not have a framework to understand why FE would be seen as such a threat to the Big Boys. The people who thought that way were scientifically illiterate or highly naive. Scientists readily understood how central the energy issue was, but they were naïve and dismissed my adventures as a conspiracy theory. It was like a walk in the desert, trying to find people who could understand the issues. Brian's was the closest that I saw to my perspective, but he also never really went through the meat grinder and drank too much red, white, and blue Kool-Aid over the years, which he readily admitted in his last book.
So, here is how I came up with my numbers. I saw what a handful of people could do with the right stuff. We gave Godzilla some interesting days in the office, and Dennis was offered a billion dollars to go away before they lowered the boom on us.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
It is not the only billion dollar offer that I have heard of:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#_edn2
and they have paid out hefty sums to keep the lid on this stuff:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff
A few heroes survived the air strike, but barely. I saw what that path demanded of the heroes. I am not willing to pay that price again, but Dennis incredibly keeps going. So, if between 50 and 100 heroes could make FE happen, how about a hundred times as many giving one percent of the effort that the heroes did? My calculus was not that simple, but it eventually came out that way. I initially thought that less than a thousand people who gave one percent of their effort could make a dent. I eventually saw that a few hundred would not be enough, giving minimal effort.
What I also saw was that almost nobody saw the big picture, the comprehensive one that Bucky talked about. That was why activists nearly always hack at branches. I also came to appreciate the game that Godzilla is playing. Most of the people that Godzilla takes out aren’t bumped off, but given golden handcuffs:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff
and as I saw with us and with others taken out:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb
they just add zeroes to their carrot. They are far more concerned about a trail of bodies or moaning victims than they are paying out huge sums. Why is that? It has to be so that it stays quiet, and if they can keep the masses misdirected on stuff of zero consequence, their job becomes a lot easier. They put a premium on silence. So, Godzilla’s greatest triumph is not only keeping the lid quietly on the issue, but keeping everybody’s eyes someplace else, distracted with retail politics, Dancing with the Stars, cursing Wall Street, and all of those other meaningless activities. Keep them hacking at branches if they come out of their stupor at all, and the game is well in hand.
I realized on my own that energy is the name of the game, and I realized that almost nobody else really saw that. When I encountered the Peak Oilers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction
I could see that they knew that energy was the name of the game, too, but they were in invincible denial or fear on the FE issue, classic Level 3s and 5s:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3
I eventually came to believe that if enough people could understand the energy issue in comprehensive fashion, how deeply it is baked into all facets of our existences, and that FE is already here:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
that would be something that has never been seen before. Godzilla is a magician in that he keeps people misdirected on what is not important. He fears that people begin to figure out the game, which is not that FE is being suppressed so much, but how energy runs the show on Earth. When enough people begin to understand that, and when they can move past the denial layers of the FE Onion, that will be something new and unusual. I already did not think it would take more than ten thousand people to think that way and be somewhat organized to present some real problems in keeping the public dazed and confused. But when people start down the Level 6 to 11 paths, those are also dead ends. I am hoping that my experience can help people skirt those pitfalls and get to Level 12 without wasting their lives in those other levels.
On this thread, when I mentioned the several thousand needles that I am looking for, somebody said that Greg Braden said it would take 8,000 awakened people to wake up humanity. When I read that, the bells went off in my head. I was thinking of Formative Causation with my several thousand, but we do not have to get too esoteric about it. I have never seen more than a handful of people at Level 12, and I have seen how powerful their awareness was. Brian had one foot in Level 12. Dennis can think like a Level 12, but he acts like a Level 10, probably because there aren’t many Level 12s.
I could go on for a lot longer, but I am not sure if I would make myself much clearer. There is little “gut” in my several thousand number, but it also is not all that scientific. It is more of an order-of-magnitude level of “accuracy.”
First, I have to amass ten Level 12s, and I don’t think I am there yet. Godzilla is watching, but he just watches. He may try to take me out, but I hope not. If I can get a few Level 12s out there, I become not so important anymore. That is my near-term goal, to get a few more like Ilie singing, so I am not the lone voice in the wilderness.
Technically, FE really is no big deal. Neither is a computer, but you can’t build a Pentium chip from scratch in your garage, or a Boeing 747. The root problem is not technology, but awareness and caring.
Gotta run.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
17th March 2012, 20:46
Hi:
For a little addendum to Ventura County shenanigans…
Because he is dead, I will provide a little information. This guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_V._(%22Bud%22)_Smith
was Ventura County’s real estate mogul. See this glowing article about him:
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-01-31/business/fi-26462_1_real-estate-developers
He got his name on buildings:
http://articles.latimes.com/2000/may/10/local/me-28659
and so on. What all the hagiography failed to mention was that he made big money in the drug trade as well as real estate. In Gary Wean’s book:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
he mentioned an event from his days of tailing Mickey Cohen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Cohen
A big drug shipment was rumored be coming into Port Hueneme, and Gary and his partner tailed a well-known drug smuggler from Cohen’s storefront in LA to Oxnard, where the smuggler pulled into the Colonial House’s parking lot and walked into that real estate mogul’s office, whom I will call Bud, which his friends called him. When the big shipment was coming in, Gary and his partner took a table at the Colonial House, waiting for Bud to make his move and be there when it was unloaded, so they could nab him. As Gary sat there, he looked across the room and recognized a couple of DEA agents that he knew, who were also waiting for Bud to make his move. Bud was too smart for them, and never left his table. But before I hit town with Dennis, I heard that people who crossed Bud disappeared. Before he died, he was even building skyscrapers in Seattle, and had the reputation of being the most honest guy around.
When Gary was trying to survive the efforts to wipe him out, including a murder attempt, one federal court judge played kangaroo court judge and dismissed one of Gary’s cases with prejudice, meaning that it could not be brought again. But that can only happen after a trial or the parties agree to dismissal. Gary remembered the judge as being part of Cohen’s entourage, and that judge also met with that drug smuggler during his Cohen days. That judge is a federal court judge today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Pregerson
as is his son. The Ninth District Federal Court is well known as the USA’s most corrupt, with literal gangsters on the bench. As with Bud and that judge, note how they are described as philanthropists and liberals. That makes for a great cover story, to be such good guys.
Leaving aside my own experiences, I have heard of more judicial gangsterism in California than in any other state:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice
Several years ago, some serious researchers were trying to track down Gary’s tale, which included JFK, Audie Murphy, John Tower and so on, and found me, and we had some exchanges.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2861&st=0
It is all ancillary to the energy issue, but makes for “interesting” reading. :)
I have a busy weekend ahead of me. I begin the house move next weekend, so I will likely be fairly quiet until May, when my moving and work hurricanes abate a little.
Best,
Wade
sandy
17th March 2012, 20:49
Hi Wade,
Just wanted to say that your zest to get everything addressed, including moving, must have you somewhat exhausted!
Please take care of yourself and get some good rest.
We can wait for your presence and know your health and peace is far more important than keeping us updated.
Much love to you and hugs too :)
Wade Frazier
18th March 2012, 16:03
Hi:
I’ll take a little time this morning to go a little more into Gary’s story. Cohen was part of the Jewish mob. That federal court judge mentioned in my previous post is Jewish. Gary’s job was tailing Cohen. Cohen would hang out in Jewish diners, speaking Yiddish. Gary had a man who spoke Yiddish sit in a booth close to Cohen and listen in. One of Cohen’s meetings was with some guy Gary had not seen before. They did some digging and discovered his identity; it was Menachem Begin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin
Cohen was an arms dealer for Israel, and they stole weapons from armories in the USA, including one in Oxnard. Gary goes off the deep end on Jews in his book eventually, but I can understand why. He got caught in the crossfire of their dirty dealings. The Jewish mob is different than the other ethnic groups in that they infiltrated the legal establishment. Gary had quite a list of what he called the Mishpucka, the Jewish judges and others in their crime organization. Gary met Jack Ruby, another Jewish gangster, in 1947.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#ruby
The Jewish mob was obviously connected to JFK’s death. Cohen was behind the meeting of Marilyn Monroe and JFK, as part of an influence-peddling and extortion scheme. Gary came to believe that Monroe’s and JFK’s deaths were related. It is all deep and black, but I want to end on a lighter note. During the horseracing season in 1946, Gary was the traffic cop for the Hollywood Park race track, directing traffic before the races, providing security during the races, and directing traffic when the races were over. Gary directed traffic for that racing season, and Cohen arrived in his Cadillac each day. Gary would make a grand display and stop traffic to let Cohen’s car go through the intersection. On one of those days, somebody was in the back seat with Cohen (only big shots rode in the back seat with Cohen), and Gary took note of him, and met him the next year while looking for Cohen. The guy was Jack Ruby. Ruby was no two-bit hood like the Warren Commission made him out to be, and Gary saw him with Cohen another time. They were close associates.
On the last day of racing season, Gary was directing traffic and here comes Cohen’s Cadillac, and Gary stopped traffic as usual, but the Cadillac stopped in the intersection. Cohen rolled down the window and held out a piece of paper to Gary, telling him to take it. On the paper were eight numbers, and written at the bottom was, “bet each race to win.” When the traffic was all parked and Gary went into the race track, he bet the first race using the number Cohen gave him, and it won. Gary bet the next number Cohen gave him on the next race, and won again. Gary won the first seven races using Cohen’s numbers, and made $2,000 that night, which was months of wages. He chickened out on the eighth and last race, figuring that Cohen was just setting him up for the big fall at the end. As Gary walked out of the racetrack to begin directing traffic after that last race was over, it looked like his horse lost. But just then, he heard from the speaker that the race was too close to call, so they had to have the judges look at the photo finish to decide the winner, and they called Gary’s horse the winner.
Winning $2,000 that way was Cohen’s way of saying thanks and showing off. Gary figured that Cohen made millions fixing the horseraces.
OK, back to my moving chores.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
18th March 2012, 17:29
Hi:
One last comment as I do my chores. Part of my point on JFK, Monroe, Cohen, Begin, Ruby and the like is to re-emphasize how meaningless the American president is. The sitting head of state of history’s richest and most powerful nation can be executed in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses, and his “assassin” can be executed in the midst of the police a few days later (live on TV, no less), and somehow it all gets chalked up to two “lone nuts.” I regard JFK’s assassination (and the many assassinations and assassination attempts made in the subsequent generation) as merely evidence of what a farce American “democracy” has degenerated into, if it ever was real. Our so-called “democracy” is a joke. The 9/11 terror attacks were very likely orchestrated by the same interests. I think it is very interesting that the MO was the same, where a fake assassination or anti-terror exercise, by some incredible “coincidence,” turned into the real thing during those “exercises”:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11
American presidents do not run the show. Heck, they aren’t even in the loop:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents
and are readily expendable. The name of the game has always been energy, and the rest is circus and distraction.
Enough said for now.
Best,
Wade
Dennis Leahy
18th March 2012, 21:33
OK, I'm caught up. I have now read every word you've ever written...
...between 1:00am and 1:35am on Saturday.
Whew!
:~)
But seriously, you are one hell of prolific writer that writes sentence after sentence of compelling material.
I just re-read the entire The Medical Racket (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice) essay. I'd like to print it out and hand a copy to every doctor in the US (at least.) I suspect that medical doctors know a teeny tiny little bit of this, but the enormity of the situation has never hit the average medical doc. When they finally figure out how their good intent (most docs I've met seem to me to have good intent - to heal) was manipulated and twisted into their seeming compliance with Big Pharma to allow the medical racket to exist, I suspect they will not storm Big Pharma with torches and pitchforks, but rather with scalpels. There should be plenty of body parts in the donor bank after that.
OK, too dramatic, macabre, and vengeful for reality, but wait 'til the docs really know, en masse, the truth. The paradigm will shift.
Dennis
Wade Frazier
19th March 2012, 00:40
Hi Dennis:
I am sorry to say that most American MDs went into medicine for the money. Of course, nobody wants to admit it. Greed is never openly acknowledged in our society, except by half-drunk investment bankers:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#_edn17
Unfortunately, the standard MD reaction to seeing the emperor stark naked is this one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#gangrene
At the CIA, the standard reaction to figuring out what the CIA is about is this one:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#stockwell
This is how the system works. Nobody wants to believe that they serve evil interests, especially when it pays well. And when the carrots and sticks are brought to bear, almost everybody gets in line with the herd. A Ralph McGehee:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
is extraordinarily rare, so rare, in fact, that people like him can be counted pretty much on one hand, for the entire history of the CIA, which is older than I am. My relative I am sure never figured it out, at least consciously, as he drank himself to death:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia
For another example of how it works, it was not until 1931 that the fluorine ion was discovered to be behind tooth mottling, and for the next ten years, the American authorities were trying to remove the fluorine ion from the water supply.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#mottling
But the fluoride polluters fought back, and they ended up influencing the government agency that was charged with taking the fluoride out of the water supply. And then the Manhattan Project ended up being the newest big fluoride polluter, and they ended up dictating fluoride policy:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold
By the 1950s, they had flipped the issue entirely on its head, and were actually selling their toxic waste to the municipal water districts across the USA, to add to the water supply. I know of few situations more spectacularly evil than that one. In the 1950s, as the propaganda barrage was revving up, about half of all the USA’s dentists knew that it was pure propaganda with no science behind it whatsoever, but almost nobody spoke up. Go to your average grocery store today and try to find unfluoridated toothpaste. Find a municipal water district in the USA that does not dump fluoride into the water (there are some, but they are the minority).
I could go on and on with examples like those, but I hope I have made my point. Dennis, your blessed eyes are opening to this stuff, but it is because you want to see. Virtually nobody whose livelihood is tied up in the dominant paradigms, especially when he/she is paid well, wants to hear that the emperor is stark naked.
It is that way with Rife’s and Naessens’s microscopes, with alternative cancer treatments, with FE, with the alternative media, and on and on. The change will not come from within the establishment or its cogs, and that is part of the conundrum.
I gotta run for now.
Best,
Wade
sandy
19th March 2012, 06:05
Boy Wade You said a Mouthful,
After 10 major and two minor surgeries in my life along with cancer and other illnesses, I have been through the ringer with the medical industry. I can honestly say that with a multitude and plethora of interactions with specialists of all kinds as well as GP's I have never met one Doctor that truly listened and or wasn't in it for the prestige or money. I'm sure there are some but I was not lucky or blessed to meet one, sad to say.
I got so fed up with one Specialists arrogant attitude that I quietly said to him, " I need you to here this Dr. Bowen>>> it is my F**king body not yours so we will do what I want or not at all". I still giggle even while typing this as I get the visual of the look on his face. I think that is the day I began to take the power of my own body and health back.
The medical industry is another entity that we have been taught to believe have power over our being and this doctrine and conditioning needs to be dismissed and overcome. Just another step on the path of personal responsibility. :)
Ilie Pandia
19th March 2012, 06:44
In my experience so far, doctors are the most caught in "defending their niche in hell". And their denial goes very deep. Most of them will never consciously even ponder the conflict of interests that exists between expensive medicine and treatment and the health of human being. I don't recommend to anyone to try and bring this to their awareness (this is for Dennis!). Obviously the pharmaceutical industries is here to help humanity and not to raise profits for its share holders!
The only doctors we should need are those that handle trauma, caused by all kinds of accidents. But their job would be to just stabilize the body, so that the natural healing within can do its thing.
Most of the doctors believe so deeply into the "systems theory" of the body (as opposed to a holistic mind-body-spirit approach) that they do take their on medicine.
The humans working in the "health" industry stand to lose the greatest if Free Energy is ever brought to market (Godzilla not counted). They will lose their fame, their money, their expensive "research holidays". That looks terrible to them, but only because they don't see a bit further down the road. I think that still somewhere inside they know they are not really helping, and in FE society a true "health practitioner" would get a much higher sense of satisfaction and "mission accomplished" when his patients get healthy and stay healthy (regardless of the how much they have in their pocket!)
And it feels really bad to realize that all those years of study are next to worthless if not harmful. That is too much to handle.
Isthatso
19th March 2012, 07:48
Sandy, you go girl! It is quite something to say such a thing to a Doctor.
Like Ilie, I understand there is a place for Doctors when it come's to trauma. Should any of us suffer trauma and are in need of immediate support to get us through, that is where we should be heading. But as far as chronic conditions and every day minor ailments, going to the medical profession feeds on our inability to take responsiblity for our own health. We have been programmed to believe the propaganda. We can step out of that when we choose to...
My homeopath was trained as a medical doctor. Alongside this he developed a system that he uses to heal many people by removing the chemical toxins with intravenous vitamin c, a stint in his oxygen chamber and a course of homeopathic remedies. Being an agricultural country chemical spraying is rampant and a great cause of health issues for many (whether they are aware of it or not). In the early days he brought his findings, complete with many case studies, to the medical establishment here. He was dumbfounded when he was immediately sent packing. He was met with a refusal to even look at his case studies, then came harassment of his practice, and being struck off the medical register without any cause. All this for a desire to share what he had developed as a viable effective treatment for the greater good.
He said it took 10 years to remove the programming that he sustained during his medical training. He thinks some of it still lingers. Now, as long as he doesn't advertise he is usually left alone. Thousands quietly go through his chemical detox every year. You have to find these true healers for yourself, they are out there and they know what they are doing, but at this moment in time their hands are tied.
Now imagine if all these life enhancing healing modalities were embraced by a new medical establishment, fit for our future, in an abundance based society. We wouldn't need much help, but the help avilable from a cooperative, service to others, society would be mind blowing...
A truly loving society....:grouphug:
Warm wishes,
Lee
sdv
19th March 2012, 09:56
Hi there Wade
In my country, based on the rights conferred by our Constitution, traditional, complementary and alternative medicines are recognised and regulated alongside Western (or allopathic) medicine. So, for example, if I choose to consult a homeopath instead of a doctor, then I legally can and my medical aid (what you call medical insurance) will pay for the treatment I get from the homeopath.
There are still many alternative and complementary therapies that are not included in the legal definition, but it is a start!
See the following (South Africa):
Chiropractors, Homeopaths and Allied Health No. 6 of 2000
Traditional Health Practitioners Act, No. 35 of 2004
Many other countries also legally recognise what the Western world calls alternative medicine.
Why not appeal to the Supreme Court? Is it not supposed to defend the Constitution? (In South Africa, we have a Constitutional Court, which has the power to veto any legislation from the government that is not aligned with the Constitution. However, this is now being threatened with the recent appointment of a new chief justice of the Constitutional Court who's suitability for the job was questioned vigorously and the ruling party appointed him anyway.)
Wade Frazier
19th March 2012, 14:19
Hi all:
Oh boy, that sure spurred some reactions. :) I really don’t want to pick on the medical establishment. They are acting like all the other rackets, and their members act like the members of all the other rackets, with their niches of hell fiercely defended. The more wealth and power in a racket, the more it:
1. Attracts the dark pathers (AKA psychopaths);
2. Consciously uses dark path means to protect the racket.
But that also does not let its “victims” off the hook, or those who quietly play along. One of the major points of my work is that what we see with all the rackets is a generalized set of behaviors and ideologies in a world of scarcity. Only FE can make scarcity go away, because it all rides on the energy situation.
The legal system is another racket, as is banking, the media, insurance, transportation, the military, and so on, and I write about all of them plenty:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm
The American legal system has always been fraudulent, from the very beginning, when the Supreme Court’s first chief justice said that those who own the country should run it:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jay
and the USA's first president authored the plan to swindle the Indians out of their land with bogus treaties:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint
Even when the Cherokee prevailed in the Supreme Court, they still suffered a genocidal relocation:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#tears
Believing that the American legal system is where justice is found is exceptionally naïve. I was naïve once, too, until I had it beaten out of me:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces
Yes, about the only thing that Western medicine is good for is emergency medicine. The rest is pretty worthless, or worse than worthless. Prevention is the only solution:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1
But when people work 12-hour days just to survive, or they are too poor to get live food (the vast majority of humanity today), they are going to get degenerative diseases. You can’t just “fix” that system without fixing the energy system, first, and food is mostly energy. It is all related.
In my terrible days of researching the Jewish Holocaust and World War II, the same dynamics could be seen throughout the industrialized world, as the entire West had a hand in the Jewish Holocaust:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#toward
but what I found telling was how when average Germans were drafted to kill Jews, about half did so with great professionalism:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#browning
although a third of them did it sadistically, and less than 20% got out of Jew-killing duties, although nobody spoke out against the practice.
But the most haunting tale that came out of the Jewish Holocaust, for me, was an intern at Auschwitz who took pride in the cleanly efficiency of Auschwitz’s death factory:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#weinberg
and a Bergen-Belsen inmate who heard that boast was ashamed of how his camp did not measure up to Auschwitz.
So it is, in a world of scarcity. I have to run off to work now.
Best,
Wade
Limor Wolf
19th March 2012, 19:40
Hello Wade,
Thank you for your elucidating post on the estimation of the one thousand number.
It is extremely interesting to become acquainted with all you have been through, your knowledge, understandings, advantures, conclusions and desires in regards to FE. talk about abundance of information...
I am getting closer to have a piece of the picture of what you desire to do. maybe, in a somewhat unflattering way it can be reffered to as a 'shielding layer' to the 'one hundred', but it perfectly makes sense, because, in every bit of advancment in life or any new implementation of an idea or a service, there is the need for many more individuals to form a crowd that will help manifests things further. However, in this case it is even more needed since there's an active force that objects this actual process, and its using all its mighty means. However, it all sums up to the knowledge of the individual. A word from ear to mouth can help, but understandably, the toughest thing of all is a clear comprehension that such energy is not only available to us, but it is the solely mean of our existance.
take a couple of thousands of aware people and it might automatically form the even more needed 100 heroes (since it will request less 'heroism' at that point)
I just hope that the realization that "personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity" will not stand in the way, How about the 'general ability to comprehend it all' in the first place'? ... well, this one also makes me wonder. -
The ET's landing on the white house lawn could do us great favor in this regard, especially if they would bring their craft with them, but it can be destructive in so many other ways, and anyway, its not up to us. Saying that, the chance is that you, Wade, wich are holding a tight a vision, were knocking on doors during your life and gathering insights from your various experiences, all this is not in vain, in the end, it will probably not let YOU or us down.
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Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " One last comment as I do my chores. Part of my point on JFK, Monroe, Cohen, Begin, Ruby and the like is to re-emphasize how meaningless the American president is. The sitting head of state of history’s richest and most powerful nation can be executed in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses, and his “assassin” can be executed in the midst of the police a few days later ..."
Israel, the invisible 51 star on the US flag had ,not suprisingly, a similiar affair with the assassination of its prime minister Yitzhak Rabin. A complete fraud from top to bottom. such a sloppy conspiracy full of contradictions, thats its amazing that nothing has leaked to the unsuspecting public, and Shimon Peres is still holding the position of the state president... sheding his Crocodile tears every year in the memorial service. oh, but a couple of doctors have been silenced, one or two are now buried deep underground, some investigating journalists such as Bary Chamish have been threatened and had to go exile to another country, and lets not forget one mind controlled 'assassin', and here is that winning recipe for you, Again.
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Earthly human nature is so complexed, if I would'nt know better, I would bet on half robot half very innovative creature, you never know what percentage of that two will show up. In human history we hear about very few stories of bravery and opposing to that on cases of unimaginable evil and indifference, such as the one Wade has described of the two interns in Auschwitz.
Out of the 13 brothers and sisters of my grandmother's family, 4 have survived.
My mother's father, we've been told later on, gave his only piece of dry bread of the day to others in his Auschwitz booth, who he thought needed it more than him. he probably knew he was going to die. The chances to survive were tiny, if at all, and who wanted to anyway..
Godzila know today and knew back than very well how to manipulate and manifest such historic events, and they were planted in society's mind and in the 'ether' well before they actually happened. Its about time we manifest a totaly different energy, now that we are conscious about it, take things in our own strides by not shying away from difficult situations, by wading in (pan intended) and facing up to them, not in fight, but in vision, and by that diminish their destructive power.
~^&*~^&*~
Limor
Wade Frazier
20th March 2012, 03:13
Hi Limor:
Yes, you have an idea of what I am trying to do. I also realized that there are not a hundred like Dennis. But maybe there can be a hundred like Brian. If they have enough support of simply awareness, then they are safer. One of the problems is that they get taken out in dark alleys, or in Dennis’s case, the full might of the media is brought to bear, as they turn reality upside down as the government attacks at the behest of their patrons. There need to be more, way more, people who are not deceived by such efforts. But it is anything but easy to attain that awareness. As I have written on this thread and elsewhere, there are a million distractions for the seeker. I get it all the time, with people trying to pull my attention this way and that, about issues that really don’t amount to much. A comprehensive perspective is really needed, so people can keep their awareness on what is important.
It may need some heroes at the leading edge, but I am also trying to do something where there do not need to be any more hero-martyrs, but that may be seen as wishful thinking (as I am sure many see my Level 12 choir idea :) ).
I encountered a camp survivor long ago, with the tattoo on his arm, who seemed happy to be alive, but I can barely imagine what families like yours have been through. Among my wishes for the world is that such experiences are never repeated, not on this planet.
On the Rabin assassination, Gary believed that the Jewish mob was behind JFK’s assassination, but I admit that the evidence does not seem to be very strong for it, as far as it just being them. Ruby was a Jewish mobster (there is a picture floating around of a young Jack Ruby in the same picture as Al Capone), but there were plenty of mob connections with the JFK hit, as well as the CIA, FBI, George Bush, Nixon, etc. Let’s just say that the MO of “lone nut” scapegoats talking out heads of state is an American specialty, and I am not sure that one lone nut ever took out an American president. It seems to be a popular way to do it, and them copying it in Israel makes sense. Of course, there is a huge contingent in the USA that connects Mossad with 9/11. Again, that would not surprise me, but that does not mean that they ran the operation by themselves. All I know is that the official stories are pretty damn flimsy.
Yeah, you have to wonder what humans are made of - if we are truly sentient, if we have souls, and so on. I think so, but it is not an easy case to make. :)
Yes, nothing easy about this journey, but it seems worthwhile.
Gotta go perform moving chores now.
Thanks again for writing.
Best,
Wade
Dennis Leahy
20th March 2012, 03:56
Hi Dennis:
I am sorry to say that most American MDs went into medicine for the money. Of course, nobody wants to admit it. ...
...
I could go on and on with examples like those, but I hope I have made my point. Dennis, your blessed eyes are opening to this stuff, but it is because you want to see. Virtually nobody whose livelihoods are tried up in the dominant paradigms, especially when they are paid well, want to hear that the emperor is stark naked.
It is that way with Rife’s and Naessens’s microscopes, with alternative cancer treatments, with FE, with the alternative media, and on and on. The change will not come from within the establishment or its cogs, and that is part of the conundrum.
I gotta run for now.
Best,
Wade
I may be completely full of horsesh!t, but I base my assessment on the medical doctors I have met and spent some time with socially. I have 3 medical doctors in my family, have met hundreds, and would say I have spent enough time with maybe a couple of dozen to at least have a 'gut' sense on it.
I met one who was not only entirely lacking in compassion, but was simply using the MD degree as a steppingstone to politics. He's probably working for the FDA by now. I have also met quite a few that are arrogant, know-it-all, SOBs.
It would probably be accurate to say the majority of docs I have gotten to know chose medicine rather than nursing both for the added prestige/autonomy, and for the extra money that most docs make over most nurses (despite the fact that the highest level of nursing is equal or beyond what many medical docs encounter), however, from what I could tell, they were all in the "service to others" camp deliberately and with passion.
I'm sure that I am influenced by the example my father set, that I witnessed. He told me he loved doing surgery so much that he would have done it for free if there would have been some way to provide for his family financially. I did not see him angry many times, but he was furious when some agency (Medicare maybe?) told him he had to charge the same amount for the priests and nuns in the community as any other patient - he could not give his services for free. Late in his career, he was beaten down by insurance companies and bogged down with paperwork, which he hated - it kept him out of the operating room too much. When he retired, he immediately started looking for somewhere to donate his skills, and went to Malawi - and did surgeries in a "bush" clinic. He said every patient had at least two maladies, usually AIDS as well as whatever the surgical condition was. I know, I know, that's one exception... but I think (or am deluded into thinking that) it did give me the eyes, ears, and instinct to feel like I can assess whether docs went into medicine primarily to heal or to make money.
I also started out in pre-med (before dropping out because I knew that was not my destiny), and I ended up marrying a wonderful woman who was trying to get into medical school...and I subsequently went through the process of her journey through medical school and internship and residency "with her" as much as an outsider can.
Wade, we agree on the big picture of medicine as a horrible, greed-driven racket that definitely causes more harm than good (especially the "Internal Medicine" docs - the most prevalent pill pushers.) Big Pharma is to modern medicine what red blood cells are to a human body - the money and influence of Big Pharma is the lifeblood of medical schools and medical research. Big Pharma has already altered the medical textbooks and medical school curriculum and the board certification tests before a student takes his or her first step into the medical school. They create the paradigm. From those first steps through the door, new docs are deliberately inundated, overwhelmed, deprived of sleep in what might be seen at first blush as a protracted hazing ritual, but I believe is really deliberate psyops/mind control technique. By the time residency (the height of torture) is over, the docs can recite (at 3:00am with no sleep for 30 hours) how many milligrams per kilogram of some drug to order, and whether it is administered IV (intravenous) or IM (intramuscular), but they have absolutely no clue as to whether there is a better alternative treatment. They are kept in isolation from alternative medicine, and when exposed, the muckity-mucks generally either mock it or place the fear of a career-ending malpractice lawsuit if the doc does not follow the "tried and true" (accepted, typical) regimen. The mind-games played on residents are astounding. They are no more prepared to untangle the psyop than any other person, as they are as clueless as the next person that a psyop even occurred. Docs are really ordinary people, as vulnerable to being manipulated as anyone else.
From what I have seen, as a "close outsider" :
Clueless to (untrained in) nutrition? Check!
Nearly clueless to (cursorily trained in) preventative medicine? Check!
Clueless to herbal medicine, homeopathy, and the woo wooo, far-out modalities of healing like sound healing, working with Chi, and Reiki? Check!
Clueless to the fact that alternative cancer treatments work? Check! (If I knew even two years ago what I know now, my friend - a young doctor who had breast cancer when my wife did, but who got a recurrence and died - would probably be standing next to us swinging a sword at the medical establishment - especially the goddamned pharmaceutical companies that poisoned her with chemotherapeutic "drugs." She placed her life in the hands of her oncologist. Did her oncologist knowingly turn a blind eye to alternative therapies that actually work? Well, I'll never know that. Somehow, I had heard of Jim Humble's MMS and had found "Indian Herb" in an Internet search for "herbal cancer treatment", and I sent those to my friend not too long before she died. I never got the nerve to ask anyone in her family if she had even tried them, but I suspect she didn't. Of course, two years too late, now I know three different alternative cancer treatments that probably would have saved her life.)
Do docs generally know that pharmaceutical houses are greed-driven, price-gouging, overbearing, pill-pushers? Check! But I suspect most docs still believe that the pills not only work, but that the pills are the state-of-the-art in modern medicine.
Wade, I don't doubt that the higher up you go in the medical hierarchy, the more likely the docs are sinister and malevolent and sociopathic - in bed with Big Pharma with both eyes wide open. But, I'll stick with what I said - that most docs do not know how evil Big Pharma really is, don't know how badly they've been indoctrinated and brainwashed by Big Pharma, and when the truth is well-known, there will be an avalanche of shocked, dismayed, guilt-ridden, docs who are very very angry with Big Pharma. Please, give me the name of the two books that, if every doc would read them, would flip the switch, and I'll include that in The Reset Button Phase II Medical Reform section.
Dennis
p.s. Oh, there I go again, veering away from your primary subject in this thread: energy. See what you get for researching so well and writing so coherently and cogently on several subjects! :~)
But, again, I know our agreement on this is more profound than the point I was making, and I'm ready to swing this thread back to the paradigm switch to overall abundance, led by abundant/free energy, catalyzed by a chorus of Level 12 lambs.
Wade Frazier
20th March 2012, 10:23
Hey, Brother Dennis:
Your post is more than welcome on this thread. As I state plenty, this is all related. I am promoting a comprehensive view, and the medical racket fits into the big picture. You obviously have known far more doctors than I have, but if I may be so bold, being raised by a benevolent doctor is partly why you are here on this thread. Your father was unusual. Well, maybe not all that unusual for his generation, but you seem to be not much younger than I am (I’ll be eligible for the 55+ discount next year), and you may remember how becoming an MD was the hot ticket in the 1970s, with med schools overwhelmed with applicants. Then when the Reagan greed-driven 1980s hit, all of a sudden it became easy to get into med school because the blood was in the water on Wall Street:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#medschool
I remember those days well. I won’t belabor it because you just finished reading it, but I totally agree that even MDs with the best intentions get it beaten out of them in med school:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#training
and there are many structural controls in place to keep the MDs playing the game. I was introduced to the inventing game by the closest thing to a benevolent inventor that I ever met:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse
and that really ended up misleading me about inventors in general. Most inventors invent to get rich and famous, especially FE tinkerers. And you don’t really get to see their true motivation until there is money at stake. Then their masks come off. You read about my days working for a medical lab:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience
I’ll tell you, when your customers are MDs, the bloom comes off the rose pretty quickly about their benevolent motivation. :)
To your question about medical books that can paint the picture, I do it in my essay:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#_edn246
I would probably recommend Robbins’s Reclaiming our Health the most, although I admit that since I wrote that essay, I have not kept up, and there may be other books out there that are better. But John Robbins’s enlightened and gentle voice is quite the one to listen to. There can’t be much better out there. I would also recommend Ralph Moss’s The Cancer Industry.
My oldest friend, whom I have known for nearly fifty years, was one of the most arrogant Top Gun guys you could ever meet. After his flyboy days, he said that he wanted to go into electronic warfare. Well, he married a pharmacist, and the next thing I knew, he became an ER MD. His path may have softened him somewhat, but I wonder about his bedside manner.
My understanding has been that, as with all lucrative professions, plenty of Kool-Aid is imbibed as part of the MD indoctrination process, but the big money has been the big draw for a long time. I work with lawyers all day long, and they have won back some points for their profession with me, as they are human beings (in corporate law, not criminal, and they are all rich or becoming rich – our general counsel got a $10 million payday in a prior gig, and still plays part-time lawyer while raising four children), but if I ever told them about my adventures in the courtroom, or what Gary Wean experienced in Ventura:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
their heads would spin. Some get it, but most don’t. One of my lawyer co-workers actually made a movie about the ruthlessness of the legal profession (he is now a Hollywood lawyer), and on his last day, I did what I do with some of my co-workers, I told him a little about my adventures. Even people like him are blown away. Almost nobody wants to admit how it really is at the top.
So, I will agree with you that most MDs don’t really know how it is at the top, but most don’t want to know, not now. Idealistic young MDs did finally get the AMA to stop putting cigarette vending machines in the AMA’s headquarters in the 1980s, and shamed them from investing the AMA trust’s money in tobacco farms (that would be like the ADA investing in sugar plantations :) ), but the battle is all uphill, and the MD who makes very much noise is soon drummed out of the profession, or worse:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice
Ralph McGehee:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
is one of a handful of many thousands of CIA employees who figured out the dark game and belled the cat, and he paid dearly. Similarly, only one in thousands of American MDs has the moxie to admit that orthodox cancer treatment does not work and pursue alternative treatments. They are the ones who have their licenses yanked, go to prison, etc. And their work ends up being stolen or suppressed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#steal
So, Dennis, there are plenty of martyrs scattered across the medical field, and gauntlets that have been thrown down that any MD can pick up if he/she so chooses, but almost nobody does. I hear you loud and clear on how they are indoctrinated, but the vast majority aren’t about to buck it. From what I have seen in my adventures, only one in a thousand, if that, is really going to buck the system:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
And I am not picking on the MDs, not by any means. It is just that nobody ever wants to rock the boat, especially one as lucrative as modern “medicine.” Maybe as part of a general awakening, more will open their eyes, but it won’t be many, not at first. My dentist knows that fluoridation is bunk and he refuses to use it or promote it, but he is one of the few in Seattle like that. I go to a naturopath who is into nutrition and prevention, but she is also rare. I went to a homeopath when I lived in Ohio, and he was also a very rare breed (who knew who Dennis was). So, the caring medical professionals, whose eyes are open at least somewhat, are out there, but my experience has been that it is not many.
Since you are not an MD, you have nothing to lose in trying to help some eyes open. I will be here, and you are invited to let me know how it goes, buddy.
Best,
Wade
Limor Wolf
20th March 2012, 12:07
Dr David Ayoub is an example of an American Doctor that define himself as a " very mainstream". he used to think that alternative medicine is not valid, untill he found out differently. Maybe there are not many like him, but He is not alone.
This 60 minutes interview was done with him by my fellow colleague moderatore from the Israeli website -"Different truth project". (http://www.emetaheret.org.il/)http://blip.tv/emet-aheret-project/mercury-vaccines-and-the-global-population-control-agenda-4006840
I think both Wade and Dennis have valid points. I had the 'privilege' to spend time in hospital and with doctors for more than two years. I got to know some of them pretty well, their thinking , their preceptions and when I left, I had a long 'Sandy' talk with the senior doctor wich resulted in a facinating discussion about the medical system and its own diseases. To a point, some of them can slightly grasp the 'mind control' mechanism that is done on them by the pharmaceutical companies, what I found they can't accept, is the biases and the involvment in the medical studies.
But if we get to think what is the main problem of the the medical system, it is very similiar to most other 'sciences' - it is the lack of the REAL knowledge that our mind, body and spirit are all connected and work as one unit. if you don't know that, you don't have the core of human health. unfortunetly, they don't know that.
From being a patient and recieving hospital and medical treatment (always doing it my own way) I recognised that some are there for prestige, money and ego, but many are there because they are fine people, they do wish to contribute, and they treat their patients with the very best of intentions. But they are very much inside the box, any peeking out of it scare the hell out of them.
There are so many illnesses to the human medical system, simply because it is mostly directed by the WHO (world 'health' organisation) and supervisioned by the health ministry (government). We already know nothing good can come of that.
As in every other area, it seems there are 'white hats' there as well, we have a couple of those in Israel, one of them held a very senior positions for many years, he is half denunciated now from the system, but manage to say whats on his mind.
Another one to pay notice to is Marcia Angel - A Former senior editor of the Well known and highly Prestigious "New England Journal of medicine", that exposed the Corruption and brainwashing that is going on in the health system.
I wrote an article in Hebrew about all this, and translated parts of it to English -
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25076-Dr-Marcia-Angel-reveals-The-corruption-of-the-medical-system
The Medical system, just the same as the others (banking system, media etc) is controled by the PTB. The people that are serving it and in it have various intentions, as it always is with individuals. But the result stays the same - the real interest is hidden and serves very different purpose from what we think. It appears that the knowledge of FE can change all that.
Wade Frazier
20th March 2012, 16:20
Hi Limor:
Thanks for the post. What I learned in my FE days and afterward, and trading notes with people like Brian O, is that the people positively receptive to FE, let’s say people past Level 5:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
are quite a bit less than 1% of the population. Of the people who do not fall into the Level 6 to 11 pitfalls and think like a Level 12, I have probably only met a few in my lifetime. Brian O admitted in our Camelot interview that there were only a few who thought like us on the planet:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely
And Brian was still trying to get the American-flavored Kool-Aid out of this mouth until the very end.
As I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, radicalized, the first area of my research was the alternative media:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big
and I soon stumbled into Ralph McGehee:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
Ralph had the idea that anybody who had the opportunity to figure it out like he did would have. I disagreed with him. He was guilty of projecting his Boy Scout awareness on others.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts
Most CIA field workers figure it out at some level, but they become zombies, counting the days until retirement:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#stockwell
When I left Ventura in 1990, I had two bludgeonings under my belt, with my companies attacked by the energy racket and the medical racket:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience
In Ohio, my second area of scholarly exposure was the medical racket, and while reading Ralph Hovnanian’s Medical Dark Ages:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm
I discovered that the booklet that saved my father’s life was literally banned in the USA, the land of the free:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#stale
I then discovered Rife:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife
Naessens:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens
Béchamp:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm
and so on. The pattern was very familiar. Christopher Bird wrote the book on Naessens, and he also wrote extensively about Yull Brown, and when I picked up Yull for the Philly show:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull
we talked about Christopher, who had recently died. What I found in my FE days in Boston, Ventura and afterward, is that unless somebody like Dennis was playing PT Barnum, more than 99% of humanity was stuck in Level 5 and below:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0
and the scientifically-trained were the most stuck of all. But they were also the most irrational, surprisingly:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular
It is kind of like where intelligent cult members are the most difficult to deprogram. I also kept seeing the pattern repeat itself over and over and over, where personal integrity was the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
Western Medicine fit the pattern perfectly. Again, there are those who really care and really try to heal people, but if they stray even the slightest from the dominant paradigm, there is hell to pay:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice
I found that the proportion of MDs who had the insight and courage to buck the paradigm and actually try to heal people were about one-in-two-thousand. And those were the ones who got burned at the stake.
I saw the dynamic with American nationalism, where saluting the flag, which American children are forced to do from age five:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag
is deeply baked. But, while there is plenty of indoctrination, the Kool-Aid drinkers also do it for self-serving reasons. Today, as I write this, the USA is responsible for about eight million or more deaths and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq:
https://sites.google.com/site/iraqiholocaustiraqigenocide/polya-gideon
https://sites.google.com/site/afghanholocaustafghangenocide/polya-gideon-afghan-holocaust-afghan-genocide
and I pretty much can’t find an American who knows or cares, as they wave their flags. Hitler only took out five million or so Jews. We are doing it halfway across the world, as we secure hydrocarbon energy to run our society. I had to take my email address off of my site and stop interacting with the public because the assaults from Americans became so crazed and vicious after 9/11.
Do some doctors care about their patients? Sure they do. But how many oncologists do you think will admit to themselves that they are doing little more for their patients than causing awesome suffering while ringing the cash registers for the beast? My experience is that almost none have the courage to admit it, and that is normal. That is like an American admitting that our great nation is outdoing Hitler. You almost never find anybody with the courage to admit the obvious. This is still the most accurate view of the USA that I live in that I have yet encountered:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/
and this is not to pick on Americans, although I know them the best, but this is a universal part of the human condition at this time. We are an egocentric, upright social ape that came to dominate the planet with our opposable thumbs and complex brains. Can we be different? Not while we are in fear. Love is one of the most mysterious forces in the universe, and I believe that we are here to learn its lessons, and we all get as many lifetimes as we need to learn it. But most of humanity today is not even potty-trained on the idea, which is why we have the situation that we do. Can enough of us past the diaper stage lead the way past diapers? That is what I am trying to find out.
When I hear people challenge my perspective on the level of personal integrity in the world, my response is to not tell me I am wrong, but go prove me wrong. Go try to make FE happen, or bring alternative cancer cures to the public. I will be here when they come back, if they survive the experience. I have yet to encounter even one challenger who got out of their easy chair and tried. When I meet fellow travelers in these realms, and there aren’t many of us, and we trade notes, nobody scoffs. Newbies do, and they eventually learn, if they survive the experience.
Again, I am looking for those proverbial needles in haystacks, and I am not asking them to risk their lives. Been there, done that. I am not looking for heroes.
Gotta run to work now.
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
21st March 2012, 03:37
Hello,
The other day I went to watch the movie John Carter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401729/). It was the typical Hollywood story with cool music and stunning visual effects, but it had a very interesting element in it :) i.e. Free Energy.
Without spoiling it too much, our solar system (and possibly more) was under the control of the "Therns". These immortal, human like creatures, have discovered unlimited free energy and how to control it, and their purpose now was to prevent anyone from ever coming close to discover this energy too, as that would be the end of their reign.
Not unlike real life, the main hero has a very difficult time NOT because of the Therns themselves, but because of his fellow humans :becky:, that betray him or simply cheer along with whomever happens to be in charge (good or bad) with no original thought.
With the FE in mind, this movie may be interesting to watch, as it paints a pretty clear picture of why we don't have FE on Earth :).
Wade Frazier
21st March 2012, 03:56
Hi Ilie:
Thanks. Well, I might have to take a professional interest in the movie now. It got panned in the USA. Once I survived playing the FE game for a while, I got my radar up for movies, books, and other works of “art” that are based around some powerful new energy source and the dynamics around how it is handled. It usually is along the lines of somebody trying to monopolize the source so that they have unchallenged power, and how others fight over it and amongst themselves (Lord of the Rings is a fine example), as each tries to be King of the Hill. Truth is stranger than fiction. When you start to understand what FE can do, as far as radically transforming human society from scarcity-based to abundance-based, it can be “interesting” to keep seeing the scarcity-based paradigm laid over what can burst it. That is partly why I think that most science fiction is way off the mark as far as what it could look like, even shows like Star Trek. Such works often project humanity’s scarcity-based awareness onto the issue. Break that founding assumption, and it all can look radically different.
I truly treat that passage in Roads’s book:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
as an example of what a civilization looks like that is founded on abundance instead of scarcity, and it is not an accident that its evil twin society provides the contrast on what basing civilizations on love versus fear look like. In Roads’s account, the smallest details allowed me to go down rabbit holes, thinking about what was involved in accomplishing that society’s technical feats, and how harmoniously they did it with all life.
Thanks again for the tip, but is it going to depress me? :)
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
21st March 2012, 04:51
Oh Wade, you know the story only too well :). Nothing new for you in that movie ;)
CdnSirian
21st March 2012, 05:24
I was surprised at the bad reviews - I thought the action fan male crowd would at least take care of the opening weekend. (Sad to think "Saw I" through "VI" and "Superbad" did better).
I appreciate your review Ilie because I will probably see it at some point because of the theme you've explained. Otherwise, I wouldn't go to see a film made from a story by the author of Tarzan.
David Hughes
21st March 2012, 05:43
Some nice quotes from Lennon here on this clip that echo much of what you are saying.....
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sandy
21st March 2012, 06:21
Dear Tyler,
Love it!! Thanks for sharing as it ended my day in love appreciation and even more abundance of the same. LOVE is really everywhere if only people were not so afraid to show and share it freely. It too is locked in the scarcity paradigm :(
Wade Frazier
21st March 2012, 09:58
Thanks. It is really something that Tyler is a fan of a guy who died about the time he was born. I remember watching JFK’s funeral on TV, but I was raised in a quasi-redneck family and all I heard while growing up in the 1960s was country and western music. In 1970, I watched Fantasia in a double feature with some hippie dudes that I had no idea who they were, and we walked out ten minutes into that second feature. It was the movie Let it Be. I knew who the Monkees were, but not the Beatles. Three years later, when I was fifteen, I was watching a three-hour movie on the Beatles, and I knew that something extraordinary happened when I was young, but it was already over.
I have a channeled book by Alexander that discusses what it was about the Beatles. They were part of something a lot bigger than they were, as they were at the Heart of Art for several years, bringing something new to the world. Alexander said that the reactions of the young women were because they recognized what those young men represented, with its poet/balladeer, its dreamy mystic, its political activist, and its everyman on drums. I have watched the Love show in Vegas four times now. I might even see it again. They were something else. Of course, I have everything they ever did in my music collection. :)
Best,
Wade
Hughe
21st March 2012, 12:01
I watched the movie John Carter out of curiosity today. It doesn't talk about FE technology whatsoever. The princess shows less than 30 seconds about her mystic energy machine in the beginning. That's all about it. The whole movie is full of bloody, fast pace action, flavors of love between main characters. Once again it contains the superhero syndrome.
When will general public see movies about Nicola Tesla? I want to see it one day. Seven billions has been depend on Tesla's machines almost one century. He laid the founding stone for modern civilization. Why all Hollywood movies avoid discussing about the energy generation/distribution? So few people understand how important the energy is.
Humans spend 70% to 80% of earnings for energy. One strawberry is being sold up to thirty cents each. Rich people love it during winter. The poor can't afford it because such fruits requires huge amount of energy to reach the mouth. Driver owners spend 25% to 30% of their income for car and fuels. They seem to love wasting their hard earned money on the road while commuting back and forth everyday. Gasoline price is $2+/L with 50% federal tax included here.
How do they get away producing hybrid cars that have lower mileage than cars in 1980s. Most cutting edge hybrid cars on the market actually are below the mileage of Honda civics in 1980s.
Wade Frazier
21st March 2012, 12:08
Hi Hughe:
As you know, there is nothing “cutting edge” with anything on the road today, except maybe the cars that are learning how to drive themselves. Yes, it is all about energy. Don’t look for a truly enlightened movie about energy to come out of Hollywood anytime soon, but maybe we will get a nice surprise, and if so, it will be a sign that things might be changing for the better.
Best,
Wade
David Hughes
21st March 2012, 12:18
My dad is a music fan so i grew up listening to a lot of 60's music. The Beatles' lyrics always struck a chord with me. One of the few CD's I had in my possession during my 'spiritual awakening' was a Lennon 'Best Of' Compilation. Songs like 'Imagine', 'Mind Games', 'Instant Karma', and '#9 Dream' hit the spot nicely. That 'The U.S vs John Lennon' documentary is well worth a watch too.
I sent Yoko an email a couple of years ago and got a reply. I wonder what she has to say about free energy.
Wade Frazier
21st March 2012, 12:32
Ah, Tyler, I don’t like to name names, but I would leave Yoko alone on FE. I heard that she got involved and wrecked an FE effort in Siberia some years ago. When the rich poke their noses into FE, they almost invariably wreck it, and for those who are sincere, they are quickly removed from the scene by Godzilla, like this rich guy was:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill
Yoko ain’t John.
Again, I can bump into Bill Gates in my daily life:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates
but I would not talk to him about FE if he wanted to. The rich and famous are less than no help at this stage, paradoxically (Brian O kept trying to use his status to get to the rich and famous, to no avail - it is a time-waster, at best).
John was likely murdered due to his political activities:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#lennon
with the standard “lone nut” pulling the trigger. I saw the movie about his legal problems. If Nixon had not been brought down by Watergate, Lennon would have probably been deported. Those early 1970s were crazy times in the USA, with spook wars and other fun.
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
21st March 2012, 13:13
Hi Hughe,
I am sorry if you feel miss led. I did say it was a "classic Hollywood movie". Yes, they do not specifically talk about the FE or the technology, but the theme is there in background, if you look for it.
The Therns use FE (called the the Nine-th ray in the movie) to control the solar system. They also actively suppress any efforts that may come close to others discovering this power, and they also manipulate events so that the puppet rulers of the worlds are weak men that will do their bidding. In one of the dialogs one of them even admits that they are merely symptoms of what is going on: "we do not cause the destruction... we are here to simply manage it... to feed of it" (humans being the ones that were destroying their on planet)... doesn't this sound very familiar :)?
Yes, the princes does put a small show of "blue light", but she also says: "Just imagine what we could do with such power": restore water on Mars, rebuild the cities and bring abundance the her people. Also the battle on Mars is all about power (energy).
So yes, while the movie it's the typical Hollywood cliche, and it's still promoting the victim mentality, and "war for peace", and all that other non-sense, I still believe the FE energy issue is clearly visible, if you look for it!
Oh, and it seems that personal integrity is very scarce on Mars too :becky: (go figure!)
Wade Frazier
21st March 2012, 14:00
Hi:
Briefly, before I go to work. FE has existed for longer than I have been alive, and if you play the game at the high levels for long enough, if you survive long enough, you may be treated to a show like this:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
but only people who risk their lives for years, with extreme talent and fortitude, are candidates.
While Godzilla has had FE, antigravity and other goodies in his Golden Hoard for a long time, many independent attempts have been made to produce such technologies. At least fifteen thousand attempts have either been made the offer they could not refuse:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff
or have been seized by using national security laws, and that is just in the USA. And they were the “lucky” ones. Most of the people who took the money were Americans, because that is where more tinkerers live than anyplace else, who live in the world’s most technologically-advanced society.
I have been a part of several attempts to scale the ramparts, inform the public, chase the money, beseech Wall Street and Washington, D.C., and have watched many others. All ended in failure, sometimes life-wrecking failure that can prematurely end lives. Every way that you can think of has been tried, and I have catalogued avenues that have been doomed so far:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#potholes
But I watch newcomers rush right at the cliffs all the time, thinking that they are plowing new ground, or have some special virtue that will see them through. It is a mentality that is a cousin to that harbored by those immortal-feeling adolescents that are sent off to war:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business
But, what I am trying to do I never saw anybody attempt, but it will be anything but easy, because anybody getting involved will have to let go of almost everything they think they know. And when adhering to our ideologies feeds us:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
we are reluctant to let them go. I don’t kid myself that many people like that exist; they are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population. Of what I call Level 12s:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12
I have only met a handful in my lifetime, and I am trying to help more get there. Godzilla watches, but I doubt that he feels all that threatened by some kind of lamb’s strategy, but I could be wrong. However, he will take me out long before he takes out any lambs, but he will unleash wolves wearing lambskins into the effort, and they can bleat seductive tunes. Usually, they will point out some seemingly easy path to the finish line, but those who take that path will end up in a dark place. I have watched that happen many times, and it is always painful to witness. I am doing what I can to discourage the naïve, the idly curious and others from having much interest in what I am doing:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#audience
What I am attempting is vastly more dangerous than is evident to the casual observer, and that is partly why you see me dissuade people who crash into this thread, thinking that it is another flavor of Avalon, or ATS, or whatever. I am trying to do something very different, in my “spare” time, and we will see how it goes.
Off to work now.
Best,
Wade
David Hughes
21st March 2012, 22:54
Contacting her would be simply to satisfy my curiosity, but you've satisfied it for me now anyway so i needn't bother. :) I'm aware that yourself, Brian and many others have spent countless hours contacting anyone that you thought could be of some help, but all you ever got were doors slammed in your face. That the rich, famous or powerful are of little or no help with regards to FE, and are even counter productive, was one of the last things i struggled to get my head around. It seems to defy logic until you really start to understand how the game is played. It seems that you're path is pretty much the only option open right now, and is the one that may actually have the most profound effects.
Wade Frazier
22nd March 2012, 05:06
Hi Tyler:
It is normal to think that the rich and famous can help. That is a long, long discussion, and I’ll cover some of the highlights. In a world of scarcity, and where a disruptive technology is potentially worth quadrillions of dollars:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion
all human reactions get magnified in extreme ways, from Godzilla to the aspirants to the bystanders. That is a key part of the conundrum. Many people get Level 11 fever:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level11
and they are often the people who would try to steal Dennis’s companies. I work in high tech, and I have seen the kind of “I want to be richer than Bill Gates” megalomania that exists in certain corners. One guy I am familiar with (he used to run around my office) got up to about $5 billion when Gates was worth $100 billion, and his wish was to one day pass Gates, and he wasn’t quiet about it. The advent of FE would dwarf the high tech revolution, and in a capitalistic framework, becoming the world’s first quadrillionaire is not outlandish if somebody became the John D. Rockefeller of FE. Even the densest person gets some kind of glimpse what FE can mean, so the delusions can get pretty big, fast:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur
I had fleeting glimpses of becoming the USA’s president before they lowered the boom on us in Ventura, so I know a little about wrestling with those delusions. It is part of the process, and everybody who gets involved in the FE field and wants to be productive has to learn to put their egos in the back seat.
You might think that the rich and famous have already dealt with those demons and are not subject to them, but the people we call “celebrities” usually sought that wealth and fame, and that says something about them. Bill Gates once said, “You don’t get rich by cutting checks." His “philanthropy” is similar to John Rockefeller’s. For all that the Cherokee survived, about their last big screwing in the 19th century was under the guise of philanthropy:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#dawes
James Gilliland:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm
after all of his dealings with philanthropists said, “If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?” When I heard that, I knew that he understood.
About the time we were being offered $10 million for our bright FE idea:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten
a billionaire came to our office. He seemed like a nice enough guy, but he was not there to shower us with money out of his benevolence; he was looking for business opportunities. Dennis has dealt with a number of billionaires, and I don’t think that one of them ever helped.
I have watched people chase after “angels,” trust-funders, the Pentagon, Wall Street and so on. Dennis played those games often enough, and I watched him vacillate many times on the Joe Average versus Fat Cat path to FE. The only way he got any traction was from Joe Average, not the Fat Cats.
But there are several dimensions to the problem, and it is not all on the “philanthropist” side of the table. When you have a player like that involved, he tends to create a gravity well around him because of all the kowtowing, and that can be very counterproductive to the effort, in several ways. There is essentially too much organizational power vested in the person with the big checkbook, and it distorts things, and that is even if the person has benevolent motivation, which is rarely the case with the rich. When the rich get involved, it usually wrecks the effort.
And if a rich and earnest person does get involved, then Godzilla just puts a horse’s head in his bed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill
and he goes scurrying back to his mansion.
But there are also other reasons why the rich way won’t work for this. FE is about empowering everybody on the planet, where everybody has as much energy as they need to live a very abundant economic life, beholden to nobody. The very act of beseeching the rich and powerful is giving our power away. Also, money only buys somebody’s effort. So, if a rich person gets involved and cuts the big checks, FE happens because people are doing as they are told (like any good employee does). That power differential already weakens an effort that needs everybody to be at their best to have a prayer of achieving the goal. If once the money runs out so does the effort, then that is another reason why such efforts fail. The people carrying this forward can’t be in it for the money. The pursuit of self-interest in this field will guarantee failure, because of the amplified perils and temptations, and the money chase is one of the most common ways of falling off the rails.
I could go on for a long time about the debilitating effects of chasing the rich and famous. Brian O kept trying to get Richard Branson’s attention. I get why Brian did it, but I really did not give it a prayer. If Branson actually got involved and was benevolently-intended, it would put him in danger. But somebody like Branson is surrounded by people who would all steer him away from something as “nutty” as FE. That’s as crazy as thinking that JFK was killed by a conspiracy or there might be more to the 9/11 story than we are being told. :) Brian tried to bring scientific respectability to the FE issue, and I understand the sentiment, but as Brian discovered, in the halls of establishment science, nobody is home, just as Godzilla likes it.
You have seen me write plenty of times that I’ll take The Muppet Movie ending to the FE quest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related
but I sure wouldn’t count on it. Orson is not going to be cutting that big check anytime soon.
On if the lamb’s path will do any good, FE-wise, Dennis might say, “Looks like a recipe for lamb chops!” I really have no idea if it will work, but I had to try it. The problem is rounding up enough of those lambs.
Gotta run.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
23rd March 2012, 14:05
Hi:
I am nearing the end of Homer-Dixon’s book:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998
and I start my house move tomorrow. It is really something to read books like that. Homer-Dixon went deep to write his book. He worked in oilfields when young, which spurred his interest in the energy issue, and he ended up visiting people such as Joseph Tainter:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter
and Crawford Hollings, as he studied the dynamics of complex systems and their periodic collapse, with the collapse of Rome the book’s focus. Homer-Dixon even goes into some depth regarding human awareness and the race to the abyss that humanity is on but, in the end, the book re-emphasizes, to me, how blinkered scientists can be, even the most enlightened of them. Homer-Dixon wrote about 9/11 at some length, and he even talked to Crawford Hollings about the systemic failures of the WTC buildings as they pancaked, but there was not even a hint that they questioned the official version of events. This kind of narrow vision is what I have called the blind spot of the structuralists:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism
For a guy who wrote about Rome at length, it is remarkable that he takes events like 9/11 at face value, and he and Crawford Hollings can talk about the dire threat posed to the world by religious fundamentalist “terrorists.” On another thread, I mentioned how Brzezinski bragged about creating the Mujhadeen:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41865-Zbigniew-Brzezinski-s-book-BETWEEN-TWO-AGES.&p=445504&viewfull=1#post445504
What I did not write was that when Ralph McGehee:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm
was still running his CIABASE, before the CIA made his life so miserable that he “retired,” he wrote at length about the biggest CIA op in its history, of creating, arming, supplying, and training the Mujhadeen, even to the point of printing up tens of thousands of Korans to get those Mujhadeen properly riled up. This is not even a “conspiracy theory,” but well-known and documented events, even to the point of Brzezinski bragging about it back in the 1990s, well before 9/11.
Six Roman emperors in a row were taken out by conspiracies in the Senate, but Homer-Dixon cannot seem to muster even a suspicion that maybe some of what is happening today on the world scene is orchestrated. As I have written, I came to understand that the structuralists were like the materialists who believe that the existence of the universe and evolution is all governed by blind chance, and human consciousness is nothing more than some unintended byproduct of evolution. Heck, nothing is intended in evolution, as it is currently envisioned by scientists. Their complete dismissal of spirituality:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm
irrationally chalking it all up to religion, is perhaps the greatest failing of today’s science. I understand their distaste for paranoiac conspiracism and the inanities of organized religion, but their blinkered materialism is missing the boat in ways that may be even further off the mark.
There is such a thing as spiritual mastery, and the masters all know that it is all about love. Today’s scientist has about zero understanding of such a concept, attributing it to the “emergent” properties of that bag of chemicals known as the human being.
The greatest science is the science of consciousness, and it is past time for scientists to begin to learn it. Godzilla’s scientists know quite well what I am talking about, and they have to laugh each day at the blinkered mainstream scientists who look to their physics texts and other quaint theories about how the universe works, while Godzilla sits on his Golden Hoard that makes the physics texts look like cave drawings.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
After all my years of playing in these puddles, I would have to say that that aspect of the FE conundrum has more to do with the successful suppression of FE than all the crazed conspiracy theorists and all the FE inventors and scientists who fall on their swords. Make sure that nobody has their eye on the ball, from the scientists to the conspiracy theorists to the scholars of societal dynamics, while everybody else shuffles along, punching the clock and riveted to the tube, and Godzilla has the game well in hand.
That has got to be the most mind-boggling part of my journey, of how virtually nobody has their eye on the ball, but the few who are even trying hack at meaningless branches and think they are somehow righting the ship.
Energy is the name of the game in physical reality and always has been, but it is our consciousness that is the key to our salvation, and it all begins in the heart. It really is pretty simple. The rest is noise.
Gotta run.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
24th March 2012, 15:22
Hi:
I should be doing moving chores today, but I will have to work instead, on the home front and in the office. Not enough hours in the day. But briefly…
Back during the economic meltdown in 2007-2009, I read at least an hour a day of economic analysis, from a fairly wide variety of sources. I still read them, but not as intensely as I used to. I saw the real estate crash coming:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#next
but did not realize that that particular crash would bring some of the larger issues into the open. It is hard to tell exactly when the house of cards will fall. But I want to present the various types of economic analyses that I see, and where they fit into the picture.
1. Most mainstream analysis simply mouths the party line. The message is all is well, or if there is a hiccup, soon it will be back to the races in the ever-upward trajectory of human civilization, with places like China and India finally coming to the table. They throw out stats with some regularity, but they are often stats of dubious relevance, or they get spun into good news, as in: “I have good news! Your execution has been delayed until tomorrow!” Most of the talking heads in the financial press are these kinds of “analysts,” who are mostly reading cue cards or the handouts from the big institutions, repeating the talking points uncritically. They are not worth listening to, except as barometers of how the social managers are plying their trade.
2. There is a sizable contingent of other analysts who take the establishment’s economic pronouncements to task. Most of them saw what was coming, to some degree. They hail from a fairly wide spectrum, from “conservative” to “liberal” in their outlook, and include the analysts at these links:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/
http://www.roubini.com/
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/
But most of their analytics are confined to the financial economy, or use the financial economy to measure the real economy. The analyses are usually around interest rates, the price of various financial assets, what the Federal Reserve and Wall Street are up to, and most of what passes for the “economy” in mainstream circles. It includes unemployment, housing prices and other indicators that matter to Joe Average. Energy comes into the picture, but rarely more than what a barrel of oil costs. As Bucky Fuller said, as far as what oil makes possible for industrialized nations, oil should be priced at a million dollars a barrel. When oil comes up, you may hear the meme these days of how the USA is becoming energy self-sufficient, which is ridiculous. When you are using up your primary resource a million times as fast as it was made, how is mining it closer to home becoming self-sufficient? By and large, however, such analysts do not focus on how energy runs the show.
The financial economy is merely an artificial abstract of the real economy. At best, it assists in maintaining the complex social organization that modern civilizations have, but it is really the tail that wags the dog these days. I call the financial economy the egocentric one, in that the reason it appeals to most people is that money is the medium of exchange, and what people think of when they think of economics – i.e., “What is in it for me?”
3. Then there are analysts and commentators who focus more on the real economy, which is naturally driven by energy. They understand that we are running out of oil, and it won’t be pretty. They include the writers at these links:
http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
http://www.kunstler.com/blog/
and not many others. They know about Peak Oil very well, but I have found such commentators to have Heinberg’s Disease, where they cannot seem to imagine FE:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg
or instantly dismiss it as a bizarre idea. People such as Homer-Dixon fall into this category, but are more along the scientific-ecological side of the house. It is a good side to be in, as far as seeing the bigger picture, but as I stated in my previous post, the scientists, like Bucky mentioned:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd
can be extremely naïve about real world political-economic dynamics. They can fairly easily see that energy runs the show, but get trapped in their “laws of physics” indoctrination and other blinding ideologies:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle
4. My upcoming energy essay is intended to incorporate all of those perspectives, but also cut through their limitations to see the big picture:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
and what FE makes feasible:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
That can seem to be crazily ambitious, and maybe it is, but that is also why it has taken me several years of preparation, in my “spare” time, to do the research so that I can do a creditable effort to paint the picture. One of my contentions will be that under an abundance-based, FE economy, almost all exchange jobs and professions will disappear, because with abundance, keeping economic score will soon cease to matter. The social organization of societies will likely become simpler, not more complex. A great deal of the complexity consists of mechanisms to deal with scarcity, and artificial constructs such as the financial economy will go the way of slavery, buggy whips and the like.
The next six weeks will probably be my hardest ones of 2012, at least from what I see ahead of me today, so I will likely be pretty quiet here at Avalon.
Enjoy the spring, for those of you in the temperate Northern Hemisphere.
Best,
Wade
CdnSirian
24th March 2012, 16:30
Indeed, Wade, Happy Spring and I hope that in your extra busy time you have a few moments to stop and gaze at the daffodils and other spring bloom. :)
Wade Frazier
24th March 2012, 20:06
Hi CdnSirian:
Today is the nicest day of the year so far, and am enjoying it as I run errands. Yes, enjoying the blossoms is a big part of spring for me.
Best,
Wade
sandy
25th March 2012, 00:50
Hi Wade,
Although Mother Nature has decided we need a few more days of snow, I'm sure spring will maintain a real presence here soon. Thank you for the sentiments :)
Wishing you lots of great healthy and sustainable energy for the up and coming weeks and hope all goes well with your move too. Soon you will be able to lay your head down and sleep in your new place and at least know one more challenge has been met.
May angles sleep on your pillows :)
Wade Frazier
25th March 2012, 18:36
Hi:
I may be very quiet for the next week as I move, but briefly, to reiterate my intentions with my current and future work…
I want to live in Heaven on Earth, and something that looks like this would do:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
I admit to my selfish desire. I also know that the only way that we can get there is through selflessness, which is part of the paradox. Life on Earth and humanity has always ridden atop the energy issue:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
and always will. Harnessing the energy of fossil fuels made modern life possible. Before then, there was not enough energy surplus to fund sufficient freedom for civilizations, and pre-industrial civilizations always lived in fear of disruption of the energy supplies, which was primarily in the form of food. The average denizen of industrialized civilization has largely lost that perspective. They generally have a poor understanding, if any at all, of how energy runs the show. Few civilizations have been sustainable, and none have been economically abundant, although industrialized societies have come the closest. However, the dominant political-economic ideology, capitalism, is founded on the principles of greed and fear:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed
which are far cries from abundance.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance
During my bizarre journey, I came to know that free energy technology has been around for longer than I have been alive:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
but the people running the planet from behind the scenes have determined that humanity does not get any for now, although there has been a fracturing in their ranks:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal
I also learned that humanity is its own worst enemy, and the herd management being performed by the global elites has been laughably easy to do when the herd’s size is considered. A few thousand people are dictating the fate of several billion people and a planet’s ecosphere. I don’t know about anybody else, but it is a situation that I plan to help change. However, I believe that it will not be changed by people obsessed with the machinations of the global elites, or those in denial that they exist and are vigilant. A balanced perspective of the situation is rarely achieved. The power truly is with the masses, but they are almost completely asleep, mesmerized by the bread and circuses served up by the cultural managers, often living on the brink of survival.
After many years and countless interactions with a wide spectrum of people, and trading notes with fellow travelers, I came to realize that one of the primary ways that the global elites have kept their death grip over humanity has been by indoctrinating them into scarcity-based ideologies:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
I noticed that those in denial of free energy were deeply in thrall to their particular flavor of conditioning:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1
And for the few who got past denial of free energy’s reality or its possibility, or outright fear of it, they virtually all tried to pour the new wine into old skins (levels 6 to 10):
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
and all such avenues have been easily defeated by the global elites, although most such efforts collapsed from within before the global elites (AKA Godzilla, the Big Boys) had to lift a finger.
After many years in the milieu and observing it, I came to realize that the greatest triumph of the global controllers is making free energy and what can come with it:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced
unimaginable. I am just trying to make it imaginable for now. When enough people can understand how the world really works (gain a comprehensive perspective http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing, at least in its rudiments), and can refrain from engaging in all of the unproductive behaviors that dog free energy efforts (inventor-itis, Young Warrior coercive tactics, playing to scarcity-based ideologies to gain “cohesion,” and so on), maybe enough people can reach a level of sufficient awareness so that they can catalyze the change. It will be the biggest change that humanity ever experienced, and it is a lot harder than it may look on paper. The people who have attained the awareness that I think is needed I have almost never met or heard of. A loving and enlightened perspective is not only the only one that I am interested in helping to amass; it is likely the only one that has a chance of working. It is time to think and act like creators instead of victims.
At Avalon, Ilie and a few others are hitting the notes that I hope to help others learn, and here are some examples of their handiwork:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth
My envisioned choir has not yet formed, but my goal is to help create it. Others may be better suited to this task than I am, but they have yet to come forward, so I do what I can. Part of me does not want to be doing this, but part of me thinks that it may be why I have been sent on my preposterous journey:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm
I do not know what is up with all of that, but doing this sure beats watching TV. :)
Best,
Wade
David Hughes
26th March 2012, 07:13
Hey Wade,
I just finished watching a documentary about peak oil called “A Crude Awakening”. Not a bad overview of peak oil with some excellent archive footage. It was released in 2006 so some of the figures below may have changed but you'll get the idea. You have mentioned most of this stuff already i think.
The words ‘Free Energy’ were used in the beginning segment. An average man would have to work 25,000 hours of physical labor to equal the amount of energy that one barrel of oil can supply. The cost of extraction of a barrel in Iraq is around $1. So, you invest a dollar and you get back the equivalent of 25,000 hours worth of man labor. The guy explaining it, Matt Savinar, said it’s an energy source so dense that it’s essentially “free energy”. Not surprisingly, that was the only time FE was mentioned throughout the whole documentary.
The people interviewed clearly know oil and energy run the show and various stats were offered demonstrating our dependency on it. America consumes a quarter of all oil and has only around 1% of the known oil reserves. The U.S. was essentially the Saudi Arabia of the world until about the 1950’s, and most geologists thought oil was unlimited. A geophysicist called Dr. M.K. Hubbert was laughed at when he warned about peak oil in the U.S. in the 50’s.
http://www.hubbertpeak.com/Hubbert/
With the technology geologists have at their disposal today, its safe to say that all the major deposits of easy to extract oil have already been found. The fact tar sands are even being talked about obviously supports this.
So here we are either already at or fast approaching peak oil, and demand is increasing from developing countries such as China and India. The people there know how the Western world lives and they too want a nice car, an air conditioned home, refrigerated food etc. Add their rising demand to the existing demands of the already developed nations and things don’t look too rosy. Demand far outstrips supply and its a near certainty that there will be no major easily extractable oil wells found ever again.
Meanwhile, we have 6 liter Hummers getting 10 miles/gallon and folk thinking that they are saving the planet by driving their 45 mile/gallon Prius’s. At $4 a gallon, oil is still one of the cheapest liquids available. When I was in Venezuela a few years ago, I recall that the price of 1 liter of gasoline was just over 2c. Most people still drive around old American gas guzzlers. Here’s an example of an apparently road worthy car that I came across, pulling in to a gas station for a refill:
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The end of the road is obviously nigh at the current and future projected rates of consumption. But if the price of oil sky rockets what will that mean? Air travel would eventually be no longer possible for the majority, and the global economy as we know it would ultimately crash because of it’s dependence on petrodollars.
Possible solutions and scenarios were discussed. Taking it by force was one of the first solutions offered. Then it was on to biofuels, hydrogen, solar, wind, and nuclear energy, but all were considered to be non viable by the panel of ‘experts’. It was concluded that human ingenuity would dig us out somehow once again or else the whole thing will just go belly up, and we will be back living like the Amish people if any of us even survive.
It still amazes me how people who are very knowledgeable about a subject such as energy and peak oil can have so little a clue about the reality of FE. They just lump it in with issues like 911 and other conspiracy theories. If it’s not accepted by the majority of scientists, politicians, doctors, and not discussed on mainstream media, they reason it can’t possibly have any basis in reality. The ‘experts’ interviewed in the documentary were all either late 40’s – late 60’s so they must have come across FE many times having dealt so intimately with the energy issue for so many years. For such supposedly intelligent, qualified, well paid, and open minded folk to have such a narrow set of beliefs, and to also be ignorant about FE is a testament to how effective the GC's have been at keeping the lid on it all. Many of them actually fear truth to some degree. Their ‘mind-crutches’ (as you call them) and ego won’t allow them to go sufficiently deep enough to better understand how the land really lies.
I think O’ Leary had the right idea calling FE ‘New Energy’. I think the term ‘Free’ turns people off immediately, especially when considering something as important as energy. That something so vital actually exists, is being suppressed, could heal the planet, has no waste, and is virtually unlimited, is the stuff of fantasy - too good to be true.
Here’s the documentary anyway should you fancy a gander:
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Wade Frazier
26th March 2012, 18:02
Hi Tyler:
You are scratching the surface of a very big subject. Level 3:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3
is where most scientists and “smart” people end up, but they are mostly pipe-smoking and sherry-sipping academics, and highly naïve of real-world realities, but is also stranger than that. The leading Peak Oil spokesman, Richard Heinberg, actually buys the inside job angle of 9/11:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#ruppert
but can’t seem to imagine that FE could be suppressed by a “conspiracy.” He is a prime example of somebody doing Godzilla’s work for him. And here is where you can start going down the rabbit hole, because conspiracy theorists have accused Heinberg and Ruppert of being Godzilla’s agents, knowingly promoting the Peak Oil “scam.” That just shows you how in outer space the conspiracy theorists can be, seeing a conspiracy behind every bush. Again, getting to the truth and gold on this stuff is like walking the razor’s edge, and almost nobody has ever completed that journey, but they disappear into the many pitfalls along the way:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
or can’t leave the orbits of their indoctrination:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
Again, it took many long years of interacting with a huge variety of people before I began to suspect that I was seeing a generalized addiction to scarcity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation
I was in the FE game before Brian was, and “free energy” was the word used before others came behind us with “new energy.” FE is what I grew up with, but anybody who is turned off by the term is definitely not in my target audience. I am looking for people who can go deep, and those turned off by the word “free” are being highly superficial. People who thirst for the truth are not going to care what it is called, and FE is an apt term. Heck, a windmill produces FE, just not very much and only in certain places, and with costs that are pretty high, in several ways. Turning the world into a big windmill farm is Heinberg’s preferred “solution.” Again, you have to really begin sailing in those waters before you start to see what you are up against.
Those layers that I present:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0
represent the distillation of the experiences of lifetimes of people playing this game.
I am in the middle of moving chores, so signing off for now.
Best,
Wade
sandy
27th March 2012, 03:03
Hi Everyone,
Although some may not think this is appropriate for this thread I believe that our own FE needs to be powered up so to speak IMHO, in order to become an FE Choir Member.
I found this article the other day on Wordpress, which shared info from the Heart Math Research Center of which I so resonate with and wanted to share with everyone here at least. To me it so validates the frequency of emotions being immense and very real in the sense of affecting others.
Love can and will change the world and as Wade keeps saying we must recognize the way the world is in all it's reality, validate and LOVE what is into an existence of abundance. :)
Intelligent Energy
Posted on March 21, 2012
“Your thoughts and feelings matter“
The development of a Human being is a feat of engineering brilliance which goes beyond the comprehension of the average person. The blueprint for this understated and yet stunning design begins to unfold when 23 chromosomes containing DNA information carried by Male sperm unites with 23 chromosomes contained in the Female egg – it is this combination of 46 chromosomes that will prompt the primitive heart (which consists of just two basic tubes at this stage) to form in the new embryo no less than 18 days after conception, incredibly, just four days later, around day 22, this primitive heart is animated by an ‘electric’ spark and begins beating.
Even though this primitive heart is the first organ to develop in the body it doesn’t resemble a heart in appearance as you can see by looking at the picture above, personally, I have to wonder if the left & right endocardial tubes materialize because (sub)atomic particles are attracted to and then structure themselves around two electric currents already in existence, likewise, is the moment the heart begins beating the moment a prototype ‘consciousness’ emerges and the proto-body becomes a living but not yet (consciously aware) intelligent being that has the potential to evolve into something quite extraordinary.
At the beginning and center of this brilliance is the heart. The heart develops before the brain. Furthermore, the institutionalized belief that the Heart is merely a pump has been shown to be wrong, in fact, it can be shown to be a twin opposing vortex which embodies the physical capacity to be considered a mini-brain and it communicates with the brain and body in four ways, these are through neurological communication (nervous system), biophysical communications (pulse wave), biochemical communication (hormones) and energetic communication through the interaction of electromagnetic fields.
It is no longer viable to argue the brain is the driving seat of consciousness or that communication between the heart and brain is a one-way process… the belief that the brain speaks and the heart does as its told has been thrown out the window.
http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/head-heart-interactions.html
After extensive research, one of the early pioneers in neurocardiology, Dr. J. Andrew Armour, introduced the concept of a functional “heart brain” in 1991. His work revealed that the heart has a complex intrinsic nervous system that is sufficiently sophisticated to qualify as a “little brain” in its own right. The heart’s brain is an intricate network of several types of neurons, neurotransmitters, proteins and support cells like those found in the brain proper. Its elaborate circuitry enables it to act independently of the cranial brain – to learn, remember, and even feel and sense. The recent book Neurocardiology, edited by Dr. Armour and Dr. Jeffrey Ardell, provides a comprehensive overview of the function of the heart’s intrinsic nervous system and the role of central and peripheral autonomic neurons in the regulation of cardiac function.
Although we may not have the capacity as a developing embryo or foetus or baby to understand much of anything (at least that we can remember) every single cell in our body is being enveloped by an electric (informational) field which is emanating from the Mothers heart. This field oscillates with emotions, in other words, it can change frequencies and these changes can influence those coming into contact with it. Furthermore, others that comes into close proximity with the Mothers field will generate an interaction where information can be transferred energetically. Without even realizing we are an integral part of our Mothers conscious experiences… both good and bad. The same principle applies to adults.
Something else to consider as well is the phenomenon of water memory. When you consider we are water-based right down to the molecular level one has to ponder how much of an influence thoughts and feelings of the Mother and those that interact with the Mothers heart field have on cellular development. If words or emotions projected in anger distorts water at a molecular level what kind of distortion is being manifest to water-based (sub)atomic structures?
Sound frequencies are information in that they either carry or are instructions to organize matter – we can see this in Cymatics. Different frequencies structure matter into different shapes. We decode these frequencies and hear a noise that is the frequency – we basically tune in. Frequencies are energy/force information. Beethoven’s 9th symphony for example is harmonic frequencies or oscillating energies/force. Thoughts and emotions, which define human experience contain all kinds of information depending on what we are thinking and how we are feeling. This information or knowledge is intangible even though its coherent, organized, intelligent. Love and Hate will have unique frequencies and an entire spectrum of frequencies can manifest from Love and Hate when you consider the kind of feelings we can “will” into experience.
Thoughts and feelings are not only chemical-based but they are (electrical) energy or frequency based as well.
http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/head-heart-interactions.html
The final two studies in this section are concerned with energetic communication by the heart, which we also refer to as cardio-electromagnetic communication. The heart is the most powerful generator of electromagnetic energy in the human body, producing the largest rhythmic electromagnetic field of any of the body’s organs. The heart’s electrical field is about 60 times greater in amplitude than the electrical activity generated by the brain. This field, measured in the form of an electrocardiogram (ECG), can be detected anywhere on the surface of the body. Furthermore, the magnetic field produced by the heart is more than 5,000 times greater in strength than the field generated by the brain, and can be detected a number of feet away from the body, in all directions, using SQUID-based magnetometers. Prompted by our findings that the cardiac field is modulated by different emotional states (described in the previous section), we performed several studies to investigate the possibility that the electromagnetic field generated by the heart may transmit information that can be received by others.
Everything that is tangible in nature has dimension. This is an inescapable fact. The length of something reveals how long that something is. This is information. The width of something determines how wide that particular something is. This is information. Likewise the depth of some-thing establishes the height of an object – all of these tangible qualities define three dimensional information.
But what dimension(s) do thoughts and emotions have if they are transmitted energetically… do thoughts and feelings have dimension in that they are imprinted on/in/around indivisible (sub)atomic particles or are they attached to or are they an integral part of the energy associated with brain waves and electric fields.
http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/head-heart-interactions.html
Thus, the last two studies summarized in this section explore interactions that take place between one person’s heart and anothers brain when two people touch or are in proximity. This research elucidates the intriguing finding that the electromagnetic signals generated by the heart have the capacity to affect others around us. Our data indicate that one person’s heart signal can affect anothers brainwaves, and that heart-brain synchronization can occur between two people when they interact. Finally, it appears that as individuals increase psychophysiological coherence, they become more sensitive to the subtle electromagnetic signals communicated by those around them. Taken together, these results suggest that cardioelectromagnetic communication may be a little-known source of information exchange between people, and that this exchange is influenced by our emotions.
The highlighted section of energetic communication is the most fascinating and intriguing aspect of this research. This explores (energy) information being transferred between electric fields. We experience these types of interactions when we walk into a room and are able to “sense” something is wrong. We can’t quite put our finger on it. We feel bad vibes but we don’t know why and more often than not we will dismiss the vibes even though we know we were probably the topic of conversation moments before or that a heated exchange has just taken place between two people who are now sitting with fake smiles on flustered faces. It’s easier to tow the line of ignorance and dismiss the phenomenon despite the obvious static or electrical fluctuations lingering in the air.
The concept of intelligent energy gets even fuzzier because energy is defined through the conservation of energy.
“Energy can neither be created nor destroyed it can only be transformed from one state to another”
Think about the above for a moment. If thoughts, memories and emotions which can be measured via ‘brain-waves’ and electric fields, then these electric projections can only exist as part of something that cannot be created or destroyed.
Does the fact that the Heart field is massively more powerful than the brain field confirm which organ has the influence on the body. Does the presence of electric fields confirm the presence of at least two electric currents “pinched” at points we can call nodes. The nodes being the brain and heart. Let’s not forget the human body is designed as a near-perfect conductor of electricity because it is very much water-based… it is the perfect medium (entity) for facilitating this mysterious force.
When the heart stops beating or the brain ceases to function the Human body becomes inanimate or dead. What has happened… the body is no longer being animated and electricity (and consciousness) are no longer present in the flesh. Matter becomes lifeless, there is no magnetic field, the body cannot function when the electrical forces have departed. Where does this life-giving force or Fohat go if it cannot be created or destroyed. Some suggest the events (memories) that constitute to your life becomes part of the Akashic records or the eternal library.
Thoughts manifest within an ethereal part of our-self that we call the Mind. Memories, like thoughts, are energy-based and are “seen” in the Mind and not before our eyes. They are intangible. Where does this “information” disappear too, the brain is flesh and blood, it is tissue that consists of molecules, which are atoms fused together… they are indivisible particles… pieces of matter.
There are no flesh and blood filing cabinets hidden away in that drab grey organ we call a brain.
CdnSirian
27th March 2012, 03:32
Sandy what a biggie!! Boy I could have a giant cuppa with you one day...
In the days I've worked with mind/body practitioners, I have seen or heard patients have a huge emotional release (a volume of laughter or tears) via chiro adjustments or massage and related therapies. They usually express something along the lines of "what a load off my heart!". They do not say "wow that makes my brain feel better"...
I think with hearts shut down, we cannot even have enough compassion for ourselves, never mind the species, and other species, to get out of the scarcity based thinking. But with a vision of abundance, we can keep feeding the outcome we wish for us all. :cheer2: and :tea:
sandy
27th March 2012, 05:16
Hey Cdnsirian,
Coffee is always on at my place and or what ever cuppa you would enjoy. Doors always open to sisters and brothers so if your ever driving my way, I would be thrilled to have a cuppa with you too :)
jcocks
27th March 2012, 05:26
I'm starting to think that the only way we're going to get any traction in FE is not to actually go after FE, but work around it amongst the numerous issues that surround FE - which are in many ways more important and without which we cannot have FE anyway.
If we can chip away at the fear then eventually when we've dealt with all that the whole FE issue will be much more readily accepted (a bit like a shrub, where you can eventually cut away the greenery to expose the bare wood. My terminology isn't precise but I'm sure you can see what I'm trying to say.). I would hazard a guess there are more than enough potential level 12ers out there to form your choir, but they are so deep in the 9 - to - 5 that they don't even see themselves as such. It's not even on their radar screens. Only once the status-quo is destroyed (through economic collapse or other means) will the other non-immediate concerns outside of the 9 to 5 be visible to them. The status quo is simply too powerful and profitable at this time. Either that or we have to try and get through to them how important it is so they can put it on their radar..... A mighty task, but by no means impossible.
Out of interest, if you say godzilla is beyond the rothschilds and rockerfellers of this world, then who do you feel we are talking about when we talk of Godzilla? I would be extremely interested to know what your thoughts are on this. One could say it could be vital information - for how can we fight a "godzilla" if we do not really have a firm grasp of who (or what) Godzilla actually is?
sandy
27th March 2012, 06:29
Hi jcocks,
IMHO there is no need to know who Godzilla is or who to fight as it really is all about us. The days of fighting as many centuries have proven, doesn't work to make a world of abundance only scarcity.
Maybe the opposite would be more appropriate. Lets surrender to LOVE and give up ego, competition, jealousy, envy, greed, righteousness, judgement, etc. With Love, in place of the aforementioned, FE would soon be leading the world to a place that would ring true of the words "Heaven right here on Earth".
Good to see you here. :)
Wade Frazier
27th March 2012, 13:27
Hi all:
Well, I just took my ibuprofen, and am ready for another day of moving! :) Boy, am I getting too old for this. The hardest part is moving my library. Oh, how I wish it was all electronic!
Big subjects being brought up. Yes, the heart is key, and there is plenty of physical evidence of it, as Sandy is pointing out. We barely know anything of how the universe really works, and the mind-emotions-body connection is one of the biggest mysteries. IMO, eventually, scientists will understand that the mystical masters have ahold of something that the scientists can barely fathom. As I have written plenty, the science of consciousness is the greatest science of all, and materialistic science has completely missed that boat so far, and materialism has led to science’s greatest evils, such as animal and human experiments, diabolical weaponry, etc. As Fuller said, the fixation on weaponry in science and technology, instead of what he called livingry, may be our doom.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#livingry
Hi jcocks, yes, there are many layers of the FE onion, and it is quite possible that the collapse has to come before people begin to wake up, but I do not want to live through that wake up call, because it will be brutal. I am doing what I can so there does not need to be a collapse and movies like The Road become realities (yes, CdnSirian, I am watching it in snatches right now – delightful movie :) ).
I agree with Sandy that Godzilla’s identity is not important, and people who try to unmask him end up dead pretty quickly. When people focus on Godzilla as being the source of our problems, they are thinking like victims. That is part of the problem. Denying that Godzilla exists is also part of the problem, as naïve people blithely run toward the meat grinder. I treat Godzilla like a thunderstorm. I can’t fight it, I can’t negotiate with it, and all I can do when the storm hits is avoid high ground. Nobody finds Godzilla; he finds you. That you are interacting with me, even though you do not use your real name, puts you on Godzilla’s radar, although not high up there. So far, all Godzilla does is watch what I am doing.
But I give some details in my writings of what I know about him. I largely know him by his handiwork, not the least of which were our interactions with his agents:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten
and I am sure that he had something to do with what went down in Ventura:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr
but just what all that was is hard to say. The system is evil, so Godzilla does not need to turn the knobs very vigorously to produce the desired outcome. During my journey, the big lesson was how almost everybody did Godzilla’s work for him:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
quite unwittingly. We are the root of the problem, not Godzilla. Godzilla is only a symptom. I have presented in my writings some of Godzilla’s identity that people like Greer have discovered, but I don’t go much further, and don’t know much further, than that. The retail elites, like the retail politicians, are not calling the shots. You have never heard of the people who comprise Godzilla. But Godzilla is currently fractured:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal
and a sizable contingent wants FE to come out, as some of my fellow travelers know well:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground
but almost all of humanity is living in their self-constructed prisons of their minds and hearts, living in fear. That is why almost everybody lives in those levels below Level 12:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0
As Sandy knows, the problem is living in fear and thinking like a victim, and the solution is living from the heart and thinking like a creator. But that is no easy trick, in a world of scarcity.
Gotta go play moving crew now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
27th March 2012, 13:52
A quick aside… I just saw a picture of the EROI of conventional energy sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_returned_on_energy_invested#The_economic_influence_of_EROEI
on a real estate page that I regularly read:
http://patrick.net/
At least a few more are thinking about the real economic game being played, not the financial economy game.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
27th March 2012, 14:36
OK, one last post before I get to work. I have been wanting to write this one for some time. When I write that FE is a quadrillion dollar technology:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion
it blows people out of the water, with them unable to wrap their heads around it. There are many aspects of the FE issue that take many years to wrap your head around, from the physics behind the technologies, to the resistance of almost everybody to the idea of FE (levels 1 to 3, and 5 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1), to understanding that people like Dennis have been offered a billion dollars to go away:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer
and so on. But here is something to make it a little easier to comprehend. Today, there is an international space station orbiting overhead. It cost about $100 billion. With FE, antigravity, advanced materials technologies and other goodies in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard, it becomes easy to imagine a device, maybe about the size of an automobile, that could be plopped onto the ground, anywhere on Earth, and it would put something that looked like a straw into the Earth, and nearly like a person blowing a bubble with bubblegum, growing out of the “car” would be a metallic bubble, with its skin as thick as necessary. Then the “car” and bubble would fly over to the ocean, desalinate a little water, take in a little air, and with some other goodies like fruit trees and other “passengers,” a self-contained space station would be constructed in less than an hour. Then it gets put into orbit in a few more minutes. Do you want the space station to host one person, ten, or fifty? Whatever. You fill it up with people, plants, animals, some advanced technology, and the thing is orbiting Earth, or Mars, in short order, for almost no “cost.” Heck, kids could design and build one as homework in one of their classes. So, what is a technological marvel today, using the best that “white science” and technology has to offer, can be built by a child in a few minutes, with technologies that exist today. And, in that world, people clean up their messes:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#waste1
so when Junior was done with his space station homework, the same car-sized device would turn the space station back into its constituent elements and put it right back into Earth how it found it, put the plants back, and so on. Everything would look just like it did before Junior began. It would be the equivalent of a child learning how to make his bed, or picking up his toys after he was done playing with them.
So, saying that FE is worth quadrillions of dollars blows people away, so that they cannot imagine it. What today would be a trillion dollar space station could be built by a child, under an FE regime, in a few minutes. When you begin to see that picture, saying that FE is worth quadrillions of dollars is a vast understatement of the change that FE could bring about.
That is today’s food for thought.
Best,
Wade
Ernie Nemeth
28th March 2012, 00:56
I am an electrician, as some might already know.
One of the most perplexing troubleshooting nightmares is what they call a "floating" neutral. What that means is that the "center point" of a multi-phased system has been severed from its connection to ground. Without the neutral being connected to ground the system goes haywire. Voltages can begin to vary from a few volts to thousands of volts - causing massive equipment failures and dangerous conditions for motors and other inductive loads.
Although it is easy to spot once you've encountered it a few times, until you figure out the symptoms it is maddening. Anything can happen in such a scenario. From intermittent problems to full disasters. And although it is easy to fix the symptom (just ground the neutral again, don't forget to shut off the power before doing it cause you'll probably not survive the attempt otherwise) it does not make much sense from a purely scientific viewpoint. That is unless one understands the concept of internal and external circuits involved in the generation of electricity. In our world we completely ignore the "external" circuit. Can't remember right now which scientist, but one of them explains this in a video.
We continue to "short out" the external circuit so that we must constantly continue to turn the generators to start up the "excitation fields" only to have it short out again and again. It's a vicious circle...
What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that we already have a very rudimentary FE system in our power generation systems but for whatever reason, whether in ignorance or on purpose, we undermine the free flow of electrons by shorting the neutral. Of course phase to phase power (how we get 240 volts in North America and Europe) is essentially the same scenario.
Hope that made some sense.
Fe is just a tiny correction in our understandings away from being realized!
Keep up the faith and the pressure of positive thinking. Soon all will be enjoying the abundance of Free energy.
Hi Wade and friends.
Nice to post on this, my favorite thread, again.
Ernie
Bo Atkinson
28th March 2012, 12:08
I am an electrician, as some might already know.
One of the most perplexing troubleshooting nightmares is what they call a "floating" neutral. What that means is that the "center point" of a multi-phased system has been severed from its connection to ground. Without the neutral being connected to ground the system goes haywire. Voltages can begin to vary from a few volts to thousands of volts - causing massive equipment failures and dangerous conditions for motors and other inductive loads.
Ernie
May i ask you Ernie, are you referring to European grids where most consumer devices use 240VAC? I thought that the plastic devices on 220-240V had no ground wires as do the 110-120V USA devices, (like my plastic power tools which have no ground prong), I got a Euro weed waker at a yard sale, 220V, no ground, which draws my interest in your post... One leg of 120V here is directly connected to ground inside the fuse box. My limited electronics course taught me that the idea was to let the fuse kill the inevitable short circuit, while the ground, (also directly connected to the utility pole transformer lead), the ground would keep a zero-volt condition for the person touching the shorted device, relative to earth-ground. If you find refs on this it would be interesting to see more of what you refer to. Has anyone done a power-factor study on what you refer to (specifically)?
Thanks.
Wade Frazier
28th March 2012, 12:16
Hi Ernie:
Bearden wrote about what you are referring to, I believe
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%209%20Feb%201993/indexold.html
I have seen people in the field that say that Bearden gets some of it wrong, and maybe on purpose. Sparky Sweet wrote about his device:
http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/1nothing.htm
and one of the wizards that I know was particularly impressed with the math. Math and theory are nice, but the proof is in the device, which Sparky had:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet
I have that footage that I bought from Bearden of Sparky’s device getting more than a million-to-one return on the energy input. Many prototypes have been built, but they invariably end up in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard.
Time to get back to work.
Best,
Wade
Ernie Nemeth
28th March 2012, 23:13
Thanks Wade, yes, it's Tom Bearden. I found the video in my files:
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I hope it is alright to post this here. It's the answer to Wavydome's question. No doubt, you are correct about the fact there is some errors in his theory. It is compelling though, from a purely theoretical standpoint, don't you think?
Gotta look up Sparky's videos to catch up on that as well.
Wade Frazier
29th March 2012, 03:58
Hi Ernie:
Long story on Tom. I met him in 1998:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden
and I talked about him and Sparky a bit in my interviews with Scott:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVevwmF9oj4&feature=plcp&context=C4cb9ae0VDvjVQa1PpcFMAsVDvfsFTqr58sa3TCf-DlvyV9k5-riU%3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8iC3G30EA
Tom is retired now. A new video came out about Tom, Sparky and John Bedini:
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc30Sweet_Memories/Disc30SweetMemories.html
It is on my list to receive.
Ernie, I have some FE physics and inventors’ threads:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14129-Free-Energy-Physics&p=138564&viewfull=1#post138564
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=358844&viewfull=1#post358844
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=431665#post431665
If you want to kick around FE physics, those threads await. I think that there are Avalonians who would like to have that chat, but the threads keep doing dormant. It is potentially dangerous subject matter, for those with inventor-itis. Then they may get to find out how real Godzilla is.
Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Bo Atkinson
29th March 2012, 13:59
Wow Ernie, that is way over the top ;) but it speaks volumes beyond. :rolleyes:
Edit:
Sorry guys, i'll try to fit Bearden's paraphrased-quote in wade's other thread, after more thought and also finishing with Ernie's vid, up above.
I thought Bearden was more of a scientist, more involved with maths. I never studied maths. I'll also have to read closer what Wade's focus is with this thread regarding waking people up. Before writing here. Thanks
Wade Frazier
29th March 2012, 14:30
Hi:
Today, I move my computer, and it may be back up at the new place tomorrow, and maybe not. We will see. As I am about to pack up the last of my office, I happened upon this on one of the sites that I regularly read:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-renewable-technologies-and-our-energy-future-interview-tom-murphy
It is a typical Level 3 awareness:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3
but that may seem to be too generous, because FE is not even mentioned as a possibility, except for a quick mention and dismissal of Rossi. As Tyler noted recently, such people, who claim to have turned over every stone, looking for energy solutions, must have heard of FE at some stage of their search. They have, but as Brian O discovered, they instantly dismiss FE and its organized suppression with the “laws of physics” and “conspiracy theory” objections. Such people are protecting their comforting ideas of reality. The notion that their hallowed physics texts might be defective, or the idea that the global economy is subject to clandestine management by people who know exactly what they are doing, is too overwhelming for them to consider. So, such notions are instantly banished and never considered again. Again, there are many myths about how science works:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#myths
They are self-serving myths, just like there are in any other system of thought, whether it is organized religion, nationalism, capitalism, and so on. The danger is thinking that science plays by different, loftier, rules. Scientists are probably the most invincibly brainwashed against FE, just as they are the most threated by the ET reality:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings
The sooner that people accept that, the easier it will go for them in this milieu. And almost nobody in the FE field today has the right stuff, either, not enough of it to get over the FE finish line. There are liars:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel
the naïve who chase after the Pentagon, the Fortune 500, and so on:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#government
I learned my lessons over the years, and I constantly encounter people new to the field who just have to go find out for themselves, disbelieving that the land really lies that way that I say. They usually find out the hard way, if they learn the lessons at all. In this milieu, finding out the hard way can cost you your life. There are no easy answers to this conundrum, and the primary problem is that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
which nobody really wants to admit, because they then have to take a good, long look in the mirror, and not just at themselves, but at our species. It is not an easy process, but going deep, into the many facets of this issue, is the only way out that I see. Comprehensive thinking is needed:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing
Which is that heart-centered sentience that I mention all the time.
It took most of a lifetime to reach my awareness today, but the process that I survived is not one that I would recommend to anybody. Playing the FE game is life-risking behavior, on many fronts, and the biggest threat does not come from Godzilla, but from our friends, family and associates, and that is if you have the right stuff to begin with, which I have rarely encountered. Most FE aspirants are their own worst enemies. Anybody with any awareness soon glimpses the magnitude of FE, and then their fears and delusions get magnified. People you think you know well, people you have known your entire life, become complete strangers, as the perils and temptations of FE lodge in their brains. Again, it is like walking the razor’s edge to attain a productive understanding of the issue, but if we are going to have any chance as a species, more have to attain it, and pronto.
Signing off for the day.
Best,
Wade
Ilie Pandia
29th March 2012, 18:16
Hello,
Just a gentle reminder that this is not the thread to discuss the physics / mechanics of Free Energy :)
There are a few threads opened already where this can be debated:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=431665#post431665
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=358844&viewfull=1#post358844
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14129-Free-Energy-Physics&p=138564&viewfull=1#post138564
And of course you can start your own thread if you wish to discus a particular aspect.
Let's keep this thread focused on raising awareness about Free Energy, and what it could do for man kind!
:focus:
The more I think of it, I see that not even the inventors realize the enormous impact that Free Energy could have. If they did, they'd probably go about it differently and understand how futile the patent or capitalist approaches really are...
Wade Frazier
29th March 2012, 20:10
Hi Ilie:
This may be my last post from my current home. Not much is left in the house now. Yes, you are pointing out part of the problem. I do not think I have met an inventor yet who really understood. Chasing patents and playing the capitalistic game is trying to pour the new wine into old skins. Thinking that they can sneak past Godzilla, or denying that he exists, is all part of their lack of seeing big picture, and those perspectives are scattered across Levels 6 to 11:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6
I am looking to help people reach Level 12 without shipwrecking their lives on the reefs of those other levels.
I hope that I post again here soon. :)
Best,
Wade
Hughe
30th March 2012, 02:06
I had a vision of future society sooner or later it will comes at least in my reality.
A small community based society that uses Free Energy power and Permaculture for growing food.
I read The One-Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka yesterday. I disagree with his extreme naturism but he proved that we can be custodian of life forms on Earth and have good living liberating from the slavery labor. Free energy technologies and permaculture share same philosophy "Work with nature in harmony, nature will provide everything."
I knew traditional and industrial farming is labor intensive work. Most farmers have became the victims of the system. It's bizarre to see farmers who supposed to respect plants and animals love to destroy forest, encourage factory livestock.
I decided not to engage in money making living if possible. I do everything I can for my projects. People expect to get money in return for their service. I'm sorry I won't do that. I started fixing my house at a small village two weeks ago. I and an old cousin hired an excavator operator one day, I arrived at my home one hour later. Damn, they destroyed all fruit trees there. The cousin is a typical hard working farmer who maintain simply lifestyle "work hard and you will make money." He is such a strong man, earned respect from people but he only follows the rules from the government. Yesterday I got a chunk of rice patty from him so that I'll experiment the rice farming of Masanobu Fukuoka this year.
jcocks
30th March 2012, 04:23
Perhaps the best way to go about it is by first asking the question :
"If we cannot first free the human mind or the spirit, then how can we have free energy?", since we ARE energy, and we ARE NOT free ourselves! Free Energy starts with US - it is not Free Electricity.
Free energy is MUCH more than just Electricity generation..... It's all one big bad interrelated mess, and you can't unravel one part without unraveling everything else as well....
ulli
1st April 2012, 09:45
I just got this in the mail. A TED talk. Making batteries more efficient so that solar energy supply can become more reliable. Not FE, but another baby step in the right direction?
House moves are transforming. I look back now on over forty moves, in five countries. Still not settled.
Hope you will enjoy your new home, Wade.
Your hands will hurt for a while, you will be more aware of your body, but it's all worth it. Until the next time.
The best part is in the shedding.
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/alternative-energy/reinventing-the-battery.html
Wade Frazier
1st April 2012, 13:44
Hi All:
Good luck with your efforts, Hughe. They are inspiring. Yes, the system grinds away.
Hi Ulli:
This is move 22 or 23 since college. I could live in a tent if I had to. My brother lives in a tree. Thank god for painkiller. My moves became a lot harder after I got married. :) At least this move was voluntary. The previous two were not. I am wary of landlords anymore. I hope the next move is to a house that I own. I now live almost across the street from Microsoft. Nerds everywhere… :)
You are about the fourth person who has posted a link to that clip on my threads. Nothing that even sniffs in the FE direction is in his presentation. It is all conventional physics. He is a Level 3 guy, most likely (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3). On FE, the big step is the one that matters and the rest is just noise, and the firewall there is pretty impenetrable. As Jcocks says, FE is a multifaceted issue, which I write about plenty. There are only a few ways that I see FE happening in my lifetime:
1. Godzilla somehow dies or becomes a vegetarian (that faction that wants FE to come out is quite large now (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal));
2. Enough people can form a critical mass of heart-centered sentience so that an independent FE effort can overcome the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing);
3. The ETs or Ascended Masters show up.
That is about it. The hundred heroes strategy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes) will not work because there are not a hundred to find (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany). Average people will begin to understand when FE is delivered to their homes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli); they are currently yoked up hard to the scarcity-based ideologies of their choice:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant
and are unable to even comprehend what a world based on abundance looks like:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance
If I had not seen it with my own eyes countless times, I would not have believed it. Nearly all people are rooted in fear. That is the problem, and love is the answer, but the masses are not going to wake up to work like mine. I am looking for those needles in haystacks that can form the nugget of heart-centered awareness that is needed. It is not an easy task by any means, but at least I am not risking anybody’s life to do it, except maybe mine.
As I have stated many times before, the biggest threats that aspirants face are their own foibles and the attacks of their friends, family and associates. I just had that one come to roost as I was moving. A childhood friend who was my only active supporter during the Ventura nightmare subsequently tried to compete with me in my radicalized understanding of how the world works. It was a painful several years as he kept trying to engage me in his worldview (and challenge mine), which always turned the world into one big cowboy movie, with him making his case for justified violence. I must have had that conversation fifty times, and it was like arguing with a five-year-old. When I kept pointing out the false assumptions of his view and the irrationality of his arguments, he became increasingly angry, and I eventually asked him to stop having those conversations with me. He would not relent, however, and the last straw was him calling me to cheer the American bombing of Yugoslavia:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#friends
He since has tried to attack me through my family, after he extorted money from me.
I also have a close relative whose IQ is about half of mine, and he has always tried to be helpful with his “keen insight.” I have had to discourage him from sending me tabloid clippings to help in my research, and other fun. He has intentionally never understood that he can’t play the game that I am playing. It is like a five-year-old boy trying to play in the NFL. I recently told him in no uncertain terms that he is not to publicly associate himself with my work (he recently publicly identified one of people in my writings who I have long kept anonymous, to bolster his “credentials” in his eyes). When his “helpfulness” began becoming dangerous, I had to tell him in no uncertain terms to get off the playing field. That sent him into a sickness of mind and spirit that saw him try to wreck my relationship with my family by spreading a rumor that has never left my immediate family in the more than twenty years that it has existed. Not only did he tell relatives about the rumor, he inflated the rumor from something a little opportunistic if true into a criminal act, and then told everybody that I was the one spreading the rumor (it did not originate with me). I got the joy of angry relatives hounding me as I was moving. I will never talk to that relative again.
That is just another example of what people like me face. When I have traded notes with my few fellow travelers, the betrayals by family and friends are just days at the office. Again, even an idiot gets some idea of what FE can mean, so the immense perils and temptations easily overwhelm average people. You get treated like the messiah before they crucify you because you do not cater to their delusions (or when Godzilla burns you at the stake, they bring marshmallows). This stuff just comes with the territory, but I constantly see newbies scoff at those perils, certain that they somehow have the luck or virtue to escape such fates. I have found it to be like telling an eighteen-year-old boy what a battlefield is really like:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business
They just have to go find out the hard way. Finding out the hard way on the FE playing field means a wrecked or prematurely terminated life.
Tomorrow, I walk into a Category 5 hurricane at work which will last for nearly six weeks. By June, I hope to be settled into the new place. I will likely not be very active at Avalon during the hurricane, but we will see.
Back to moving chores.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
2nd April 2012, 14:54
My post today is over here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=459708&viewfull=1#post459708
Onward to the hurricane.
Best,
Wade
Hughe
2nd April 2012, 15:31
It happened twenty yeas ago! TPTB murdered him.
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"If we cannot first free the human mind or the spirit, then how can we have free energy?", since we ARE energy, and we ARE NOT free ourselves! Free Energy starts with US - it is not Free Electricity.
Free energy is MUCH more than just Electricity generation..... It's all one big bad interrelated mess, and you can't unravel one part without unraveling everything else as well....
I disagree with. Each individual has right to choose based on their conscious not the collective. If the collective take cares of people, it will be fine. Looking at what the government really represents? It's run by monsters not humans, call them warmongers, psychopaths, blood lines, the Illuminatis, whatever. Will the government or scientific organization will help us? I don't think so.
I personally dislike using water as source of energy but it's a lot better than fossil fuels. Saving fuel upto 20% to 30% on a car or motorcycle is feasible using a on-demand HHO kit. Car owners started to work out for themselves. The number is growing.
The rising cost of fuel will cut the throat of the middle class. Why do billions people suffer from deliberate suppression? Few thousands people out of billions are actually using some form of FE devices IMHO. I rather take risk myself than hopeless waiting for somebody or an organization's aid.
Limor Wolf
2nd April 2012, 20:21
I have not watched the whole interview with Stan Meyer that Hughe posted, but the possibility of using water as a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gases is outstanding. But even though water seems to be a powerful fuel, isn't it true that it is as much in scarcity as oil is, or will be in very short few years?
than maybe it is safe to assume that this kind of 'solution' (although somewhat surprising) is only temporary, it can help with the extremely high prices of petrol, if its saving up to 30-40% from gas bill. Also, evidently, it is much more 'user friendly' than petrol, but it is still not solving the problem of depleting our planet earth from its natural resources.
Here is another video in relation to water -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3a5OHs6Yzk&feature=player_embedded
A little more than a year ago, I read a 'special disclosure' news item about 'cars that are driven on water in Israel', On the 'Different truth project' (http://www.emetaheret.org.il/2010/12/16/%D7%9E%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA-%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%A0%D7%A2%D7%94-%D7%91%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%9F/)website. It recieved the interest of many people. Apparently, an 'anonymouse' person is already using this type of car and he than 'blow the whistle' to other drivers with specific technical instructions on how to install this kind of device (ordered via the internet) with only an average technical knowledge needed.
It was picked by television and they broadcasted an item about it, the websit founder Niv Dor cohen, has expressed on TV that "there are very strong corporations, oil corporations, distilleries and also the governments that are profiting an extremely large amount of money, milions and milions from petrol taxes, and they don't have an interest that the public will benefit from this device for a simple and easy use". I know he is still alive as I have been in touch with him last week ;)
It seems there are quite a few that are wondering around with this device affixed in their cars, and it's only attracting more and more intrest, wether it's legal or insured or not.
An ear to mouth deliverence should not be underestimated. But as Wade indicated, there is no time for this very slow dissemintation.
Good luck with the 'storm' Wade, I hope that you are now safely settled down in your new Home.
One thing cought my attention, and I can't help myself and have a need to ask:
Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " My brother lives in a tree"
I probably needed to attend more of the English classes at school , but did you by any chance mean "On a tree?", "Near a tree?", Maybe "in a tree house?"
Mmm... :rolleyes: :-)
Ilie Pandia
3rd April 2012, 03:32
Hi Limor,
I think you got it right with the water!
Yes, is much different than oil, easier to extract, and less pollution, but it's still scarcity based. With the current run on "water rights" (which I read made illegal in US to store rain water!), it clearly shows how the "scarcity game" is alive and well with regards to water too!
Free energy would dwarf water, waves energy, wind and geo-thermal and so on... When compared to true free energy tech these are just noise to keep humans hacking at the branches and not going nowhere near the root.
sunnyrap
3rd April 2012, 04:29
Speaking of 'free' energy cars...there was a car developed in France that runs on compressed air. They were being sold in Europe but not allowed to be sold in the States. This was in 2003-2004 that I became aware of them via the 'net, of course. The videos on the car explained the elegant simplicity of the concept, the extremely low number of mechanical parts needed to operate the car; it's safety; it's pennies per mile cost of operation; its relatively low sales cost, around $14,000. And of course not a peep about it in the U S of A media...
Here's a video about the car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIwropRMME
Here's a website for a compressed air car allegedly to be marketed in the U.S. (note the date)
http://www.gizmag.com/compressed-air-car-set-for-us-launch-in-2010/8896/
The latest development on the concept is that a company in India plans to produce one
http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/17/compressed-air-vehicle-minicat-coming-to-india-in-2012/
So this would be a terrific new industry to pump a bit of life and air back into Detroit, imo, but apparently the concept has been pretty much buried here...
sunnyrap
3rd April 2012, 04:38
Oh, and the car has a zero-pollution factor
Wade Frazier
3rd April 2012, 05:51
Hi Hughe:
I don’t keep up on it much, but I think that Stan knew Dennis. Stan allegedly got the $1 billion dollar offer from Arab interests to go away:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#_edn2
The problem with deaths like Stan’s is that sometimes deaths like his are from natural causes, but Godzilla is expert at making murder appear to be natural causes, suicides, accidents, and random crimes. It is kind of like in the USA where Democratic politicians are about ten times more likely to die in plane crashes than Republicans are. What a statistical anomaly! :)
Hi Limor:
That clip is about Brown’s Gas:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull
We have made FE inventors’ threads if people want to kick that stuff around.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=358844&viewfull=1#post358844
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=431665#post431665
There is lots of chaff in the FE inventor milieu. Most of the FE stuff that you see out there is not valid. The good stuff is taken out of circulation almost immediately. It could well be that what we see in the public FE scene is the chaff, the mine tailings left over after Godzilla removed the gold nuggets. That is partly why I do not pay much attention to FE tinkerers and that milieu. Been there, done that.
My brother lives in a tree house, to be more precise. :)
Hi Sunnyrap:
Compressed air cars may be environmentally more disastrous than gasoline cars. The air is compressed by electricity, which is generated by burning coal in the USA (or nuclear fission), which is a catastrophe on several fronts. Part of my upcoming essay is intended for non-scientists, so they can begin to understand how the world really works. The media has done a great disservice to the scientifically illiterate by promoting hybrid cars, hydrogen power, air cars and biofuels as viable energy solutions, when they are nothing of the sort.
Also, so-called water cars are not getting their energy from water. If they are legit, they are only using the water molecule to get at the ZPF. Not sure there are any legit ones out there, either.
Folks, technology is the not the problem, and FE tinkerers are not the answer, not now. The day that a tinkerer with the goods gives it to a worthy group, I am going to get interested. I have never heard of that worthy group, and I never met the tinkerer with the goods willing to give it away.
Going to bed now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
3rd April 2012, 14:12
Hi:
All of these tinkerer posts coincided with somebody sending me a link to a Bloom Box clip. These really emphasize why I am hoping to help people think comprehensively. That comprehensive thinking extends to many facets of the issue, including where our energy comes from today, including the Godzilla effect, including how energy shapes our existences, including how useless the mainstream media is, and including what FE can mean. Otherwise, newbies go haring off in all sorts of directions, with none of them being productive. Here are some of those unproductive directions that I see all the time.
1. Thinking that some technology that wrings more energy out of fossil fuels is some sort of solution (that was my initial orientation, long ago http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse);
2. Thinking that they can go into their garage and make an FE device (some have: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet, but it is a lot harder than it looks, and none of those are ready to power a house);
3. Thinking that they cannot only make a market-ready FE device in their garage, but they can sneak past Godzilla to the public with it (I call it Level7: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level7);
4. Thinking that people can be stampeded toward FE (I call it Level 10: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10, and I tried that with Dennis more than once – you can’t outmaneuver the master shepherd);
5. Thinking that the new tinkerer on the scene “Has it!” I get bombarded with those, even after I ask people to stop bombarding me. The entire tinkerer approach is a loser. It is like trying to build a Pentium chip in your garage with parts that you bought at the hardware store. People like Adam Trombly, who had many millions of dollars at his disposal, got something going, and he gets to survive a murder attempt a year and then have the federal government seize what he makes. Some people can play the game if they want to risk their lives, but for every contender in this milieu, there are a thousand pretenders.
Those are all newbie reactions to the FE issue. This thread has been bombarded with them. When I get that invitation-only forum going, it will be a No-Newbie Zone. If any member starts haring off in those directions, they will be corrected, and if they persist, they will be removed from the conversation. If that happens, it means that I failed in my invitation process. I will be going for quality over quantity.
I am aiming far higher than those knee-jerk reactions. Some of the best there ever were have sacrificed their lives on this issue, going back a hundred years. There are no quick, easy answers. If enough people woke up, it would be easy, but waking up is the hard part, in a world of scarcity.
Going off to work now.
Best,
Wade
Wade Frazier
3rd April 2012, 14:53
Hi:
One last thing before I go off to work. In all the fringe topics, whether it is alternative archeology, alternative physics, what is happening at Godzilla’s level, and so forth, there is far more chaff than wheat floating around out there in public discourse. I see disinformation recycled constantly. People close to me eat heaping plates of chaff every day, and think they are eating wheat. Stuff that was debunked ten years ago (and validly debunked, not in organized skepticism style http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends) keeps getting recycled in tabloid style. In these realms, I have found very few people who can maintain an open yet skeptical mind, and can think critically. What I find, all the time, is people being fascinated with the talking heads of the fringes, uncritically repeating pronouncements or startling “finds” that upon further inspection simply do not hold up. I will not name names, but those names dominate in alternative forums.
Brian O and I interviewed with Bill and Kerry, but that does not mean that we endorsed the validity of any other Camelot witnesses. Playing the science game is not easy. Playing the disruptive energy technology game is life-threatening. Investigating issues such as the JFK hit:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean
are not subjects for quick-study artists. None of those issues can be solved by surfing the Internet for a few minutes, getting a few books by the latest fringe voice, etc.
If the Federal Reserve conspiracy theories are true, then what? Money and banking are the tail of the dog. The real economy runs on energy and always has. The money and banking game is just accounting. Many dirty games are played at those levels, just like with all the other elite games. But keeping everybody’s eyes off the ball, which is the energy issue, and the FE solution, is what Godzilla’s game is all about. All the rest is merely a sideshow.
Going to work now.
Best,
Wade
sunnyrap
3rd April 2012, 19:46
Wade, you are great at seeing the larger picture having studied it for years. Do you have a write up on the downside of the air car concept? It seemed to me on the surface that 1.50 worth of electricity (which I'm guessing could be solar-gathered) to fill a compressed air tank would at least be a step up from what we now have. Plus their other advantages. It also occurred to me if you had a built in small compressor that added air as your solar collectors had stored enough charge to run it would give you a kind of perpetual energy generator. This is just imagineering on my part and not based on any calculations, of course. Do you think it might be worth a try for some gearheads building a golf cart on this concept?
sandy
4th April 2012, 00:15
Hi Everyone,
I know it is not easy to accept feeling powerless in some ways and that any ray of hope for a better future can send one running down the rabbit holes being facilitated all over the alternative community.
I for one "know" that there will be no wonder FE device being introduced any time soon as Godzilla is far from ready to let go of the power. It is important to research and learn but it is also important to gain skills in discernment of the information out there. Recognize that there is more talk about FE than ever before, so energy saving devices that are not FE will be publicized to deter or detour the talk of FE or heaven forbid a demand for the release of FE.
Most if it is just content that adds to the big picture of deceit. Once one accepts that we live in a world full of deceit, it is time to look within for our own power and start to take responsibility for our own sense of integrity.
What is personal integrity to you and how are you working on this aspect of your life (as this is what will change the world we live in)??
IMHO this is the rabbit hole we all need to go down and explore most of all. Finding compassion and love for all of oneself grows ones personal integrity and this LOVE Energy is what will change the world.
Ilie Pandia
4th April 2012, 04:10
Wade, you are great at seeing the larger picture having studied it for years. Do you have a write up on the downside of the air car concept? It seemed to me on the surface that 1.50 worth of electricity (which I'm guessing could be solar-gathered) to fill a compressed air tank would at least be a step up from what we now have. Plus their other advantages. It also occurred to me if you had a built in small compressor that added air as your solar collectors had stored enough charge to run it would give you a kind of perpetual energy generator. This is just imagineering on my part and not based on any calculations, of course. Do you think it might be worth a try for some gearheads building a golf cart on this concept?
Hi Sunnyrap,
Only two posts above your own Wade has already expressed his views on the matter :)
To re-iterate, technology is not the problem. Technology has not been the problem for some 100+ years. Even if such a car would work, it does not matter. In this case only the big leap matters: bringing free energy to the market. And that would change everything, in radical and marvelous ways. The rest is just noise meant to keep us busy hacking at the branches :)
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