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sunnyrap
4th April 2012, 05:59
The thread is about 'free energy' and what I'm referring to seemed as close to free energy as is practicable at this moment, so if I'm missing the point or a point according to you, perhaps we should rename the thread: 'how to create a positive socio-political environment that allows us all to have free energy', or 'what is the next big leap in 'free energy' and how do we get there? (I'd intended to go on to bring up the jump room technology that I've heard exists and is being used, but by the reckoning you imply, even that is still 'technology'.) Since my sideways post didn't communicate it, I'll state that I am fully aware that the problem is socio-political on the surface--conscious awareness/development at source. But its been my experience that people come to awareness incrementally, each step building on the past and including it before real paradigm shifts are achieved. And that our available technology is a reflection of that. We rush the process and skip steps at our peril. I believe that is why there are so many 'healing' technologies being created and implemented at this time--there is a huge rush to catch up with available technology.

Btw, I shudder to even consider the availability of jump technology or even 'whole body remote viewing' having widespread availability at this moment when I consider how seriously uncentering it is to have an antagonistic presence pop into your consciousness on this forum, much less show up physically.

Wade Frazier
4th April 2012, 14:27
Hi sunnyrap and Ilie:

Even in my earliest days of this game, I always asked, “Where is the energy coming from?” If the ultimate source is not sustainable, it is only a stopgap measure at best. Solar energy powers all ecosystems, with the possible exception of thermal vents on the ocean floor, where extremophiles live. The energy in wood, oil, gas, crops, whale oil, coal, wind, hydroelectric, and so on, all comes from captured solar energy (our oceans only exist because photosynthesis created enough oxygen in the atmosphere so hydrogen could not escape to space - otherwise Earth's surface would look a lot like Mars's). Even nuclear fission comes from the energy of collapsing stars, at least in conventional theory.

You are bringing up big subjects, and maybe it would help to state my intention for this thread and how I see stuff like air cars.

My initial orientation was getting more energy out of a gallon of gasoline:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

I did not hear the “make your funeral plans” observation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

at age sixteen, but I clearly recall thinking that entrenched interests would be against something like a car that got 200 MPG and did not pollute much. Then my wild ride soon began, which started with going to Europe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

and having my mystical awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

and a few years later a voice in my head told me to change my studies from science to business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

Part of me looks back and wonders if it all really happened, but it was all too real.

And then my baptism by fire in the real world happened:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

which I now know was preparing me to meet Dennis, with the voice’s help:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

Dennis also was not thinking in terms of FE when we met. His company was being annihilated because he was bringing 80% energy conservation to the marketplace:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

which was a little more than the electric companies had in mind.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#science

So, I am sympathetic to people wanting to take small steps in the direction of FE, but air cars are not even that. All that an air car really does is go from burning oil to burning coal, and putting the exhaust pipe at an electric plant. Coal is dirtier than oil, but there is more of it. There are plenty of talking heads out there who promote air cars and hydrogen power as alternatives to oil, but really only because they ultimately burn coal instead. I was just reading this yesterday:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-global-oil-risks-early-21st-century#comment-2315035

Solar and wind just don’t cut it, especially when I know that FE exists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

Brian O originally thought in terms of solar and wind, but came to realize that they were too little, too late.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#udall

What I have seen is that those promoting solar and wind or hydrogen “power” (hydrogen provides no power at all – it is just a way of storing energy, like a battery, unless we are thinking like Mills’s hydrino, but then we are talking about tapping the ZPF, not really getting hydrogen “power”) are trapped in scarcity-based thinking. I have seen that one a zillion times so far. The real smart ones I call Level 3s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

I can respect people who begin to understand the energy issue. Heck, my upcoming essay is intended to help educate people, in a comprehensive way, on the energy issue. But unless we are talking about a new energy source, I don’t think we are going anywhere. You would not believe all the crazed reactions I get when FE is brought up, from the Level 5 folks:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

The Level 3s seem reasonable, but if you ever overcome their objections, they nearly invariably become Level 5s. When I saw that, I eventually realized that their awareness was rooted in fear, and part of what I was seeing was that they were hooked on scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

I saw so many reactions to the idea of FE over the years that I eventually put them into a framework:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

It is not the only framework that can be developed, but it is the one that I came up with. Time is short. When you begin to look at the numbers and take in the human predicament at this stage, it is easy to lose all hope and just wait for it to hit the fan. When the solution that makes virtually all of our problems go away, almost overnight, is so violently resisted by almost everybody who hears about it, you begin to wonder if humanity is truly a sentient species. Brian O openly asked the question in his last years, and I could see why.

I have a very specific intention with my work and my Avalon threads. I am trying to get enough people to let go of their scarcity-based indoctrination:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

so that they can begin to just imagine FE, abundance, and a healed planet. Many people come to these threads with inventor-itis, scale-the-ramparts-itis, and other perspectives that have not proven productive so far. I had some threads created for people with those proclivities, but the threads keep going dormant. So, I keep getting FE tinkerer posts made to this thread, or people proposing completely conventional energy “solutions,” like air cars and the guy at TED. It is part of my patience training. :)

Maybe I could start a thread on conventional “solutions,” where air cars, heat pumps, high MPG carburetors and the like can get kicked around. I have no interest in any of it. Been there, done that, and I am trying to do something radically different, something that I have never seen anybody else attempt, which is to help people think comprehensively and begin a stampede of sentient lambs. I call it Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

Does it have any chance of working? I would not bet on it, but in a way I am, because since 1990 I have been on this path, although it was not until relatively recently that my approach crystalized in my conception. I was groping toward it for many years, and it began to crystallize in about 2006, as I came out of my monster of a midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

This is know: the physics behind FE devices blows the physics textbooks out of the water. I don’t kid myself that I am an FE scientist like an Adam Trombly or Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

Those guys had the really rough rides. Spear carriers like me got off relatively easily, but that is relative. The FE chase wrecked my life, and I don’t want to encourage anybody else to become FE martyrs. I already have enough blood on my hands.

If people want to kick around air cars, hydrogen “power,” clean burning coal, high MPG carburetors, aerodynamic bicycles, novel solar technologies and the like, I can start a thread for it, but it will likely suffer the fate of the others. My intention is something very different than taking baby steps in the conventional physics “solutions” that are anything but viable answers. If people want to play in those puddles, it can help them in ways, but it can also trap them in conventional thinking and they can get inventor-itis, which can be a deadly affliction in the FE milieu.

I finished Homer-Dixon’s book yesterday,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&highlight=Homer-Dixon#post440998

on my long bus rides from my new home (I love the long rides, so I can get more reading done), and his perspective is just like all the others who grasp the current energy situation and think in terms of conventional physics: the sh*t is going to hit the fan, and soon. Their only hope is that from the ashes of our collapsed industrialized civilization (if we do not suffer a catastrophic collapse all the way back to stones and spears after nuclear wars or similar events), something like solar or wind technology powers the next phase of the human journey. Is that stuff ever depressing to read, especially when I know how unnecessary such thinking is. The Level 3 people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

are actually the most unreachable of all, because they are smart, have had scientific training, and have drunk the Kool-Aid of the “laws of physics” and other lies. They are like really smart cult members, who can be the most difficult to deprogram.

I have to run off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Jean-Luc
4th April 2012, 15:02
I have a very specific intention with my work and my Avalon threads. I am trying to get enough people to let go of their scarcity-based indoctrination:


Merhan Keshe fundamental breakthrough concepts seem to open the way to this type of paradigm shift.

From what I understand (after the lecture I attended on March 30 at the Keshe Foundation in Ninove, Belgium) Merhan Keshe would from now on be willing to pass the knowledge over to governments (any) and to Humanity.

He also said that basically mostly everything lies in 3 his books and his published patents and should allow many people to duplicate his work in terms of FE (although he dislike the term) in the near future. So that he basically does not fear for his life. At least not more than you and me.

He said that basically his energy and health discoveries are "just" by-products of his space technology R&D (space travels), a "little" bit like your cooking pan teflon is a by-product of NASA space technology. (My comment : Godzilla just happens to think the scope is different and is not so happy, and Keshe is fully aware of this).

FYI, I will be assisting Merhan Keshe in the translation (in French) of the lecture he will be giving on April 29 in Namur, Belgium at the "Let’s get out of the cooking pot' event where I invited last week to join the group of lecturers (who had been scheduled many months ago). I am quite honored he accepted right away and happy the organizer has been willing to change the program at the very last minute.

More info (in French) here: http://www.nouveau-monde.be/Week-end-avril-2012.html.

Wade Frazier
4th April 2012, 15:15
Hi Jean-Luc:

Good luck with it. Kind of like China embracing Yull Brown, non-Western nations like Iran sometimes embrace people like Mehran. He seems to be getting into electro-gravity, which went deep black in the USA back in the 1950s. Wasn’t he whistling the “there is no organized suppression” tune not too long ago? Maybe I am confusing him with somebody else. Giving it away is step one. Then comes the hard part. :) We gave our FE ideas away, but found that nobody was going to pick up the ball and run with it, so we had to try. It is all far harder than it looks, but I wish him the best.

Best,

Wade

Jean-Luc
4th April 2012, 15:54
Wasn’t he whistling the “there is no organized suppression” tune not too long ago?

Hi Wade
I don't know. But certainly not after this happened: :)
http://pesn.com/2011/01/15/9501744_Keshe_kidnapped_in_Canada_over_false_nuclear_weapons_concerns/

More on Mehran Keshe here :

- http://keshefoundation.com
- http://www.keshespace.com/
- http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation


Overview of his 3 books :

- Keshe - 1 - The Universal Order of Creation of Matters - 2009 - 285p.pdf (http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Keshe_1_The_Universal_Order_of_Creation_of_Matters_2009_285p.pdf)
- Keshe - 2 - The Structure of Light - 2011 - 195p.pdf (http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Keshe_2_The_Structure_of_Light_2011_195p.pdf)
- Keshe - 3 - The Origin of the Universe - 2011 - 234p.pdf (http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Keshe_3_The_Origin_of_the_Universe_2011_234p.pdf)

Not really a FE tinkerer, it seems...

Thanks for your reply.
Best
Jean-Luc

Wade Frazier
5th April 2012, 03:58
Hi Jean-Luc:

I am about 99% sure that he is the guy I read an interview for when people mentioned him on this thread last year. He was dismissive of the organized suppression angle, saying something like all such activities showed was that humanity was not quite ready for such technologies. I am sympathetic with such a perspective, but to be selling rides to the moon on the back of that statement shouted “naïve inventor” to me, at best. I just finished reading some interviews with him, and about a dozen red flags went up. I have known scientists and inventors whose IQs went off the scale, and they were like lambs to the slaughter in the real world regarding this FE (or whatever term you prefer) stuff. Keshe may have discovered how some of it works the hard way, and lived to tell the story. His is a typical tale but, as I found, Godzilla might not have been involved at all in what he experienced. The jungle is filled with T-Rexes and velociraptors, too. When Bill the BPA Hit man made his move:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

the bloody dynamic was one part provocateur, 20 parts greedy opportunists, and 200 parts the sheeple who follow them. I saw the same thing in Ventura when Mr. Texas made his move:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

In the end, with the opportunists and the sheeple, it is their lack of integrity that makes the field fertile for the BPA Hit Man and Mr. Texas types to work their black magic. Bill was definitely on the payroll, and Mr. Texas likely was. I am more than half convinced that Mr. Skeptic is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

and Keshe’s interviewer in that link you sent is Mr. Skeptic’s good buddy, displaying naïveté on the interviewer’s part that would boggle my mind if I had not seen it so many times.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

Many have come up with alternative (and often multidimensional) physics models like Keshe has (LaViolette, Bearden, Valone, Russell, etc., etc.). Theory is nice. Theory with working goodies, like Sparky and Adam had, is what they kill people over.

That Keshe goes to lengths to stress his patents, keeping the innards of his technology secret, taking deposits when he says he does not need the money (so no need to take deposits!) and other things are red flags, if he is serious about making it happen. Open source is the only way to go in this realm, IMO. He makes so many big claims in so many areas, and has not delivered the goods for about any of it, despite repeated announced demonstrations that never seemed to materialize, it becomes normal to begin to wonder how real he is. Big claims; little delivery. Dennis has been talking like FE will be here next week for many years, and I came to dislike the entire approach. The entire inventor-hero approach does not interest me anymore, although it did twenty-five years ago. I’ll settle for him delivering on just one of his tall claims, and then the rest can come along leisurely.

I highly doubt that Godzilla is going to let somebody like him to run loose with FE and the other technologies he claims.

I’ll remain very skeptical, and we’ll see.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
5th April 2012, 05:21
Hey Wade,

I've spent many months now trying to educate two close buddies of mine about FE and all things related. They started off like me at level 0, and I have helped them gain an understanding that has them currently at a level 8 'level of awareness' (they believe that free energy exists but that it is hopelessly suppressed). I've not heard you speak about this level of awareness too much before and was wondering how it's possible to get someone from level 8 to level 12?

Their conclusion to it all can be summed up as: "Well, what can you do? The whole thing is locked up, and it's highly unlikely that I will be seeing FE or any of its positive effects in my lifetime, so, there's no point dwelling on it. Next."

Thanks,
David

Wade Frazier
5th April 2012, 14:34
Hi Tyler:

Here are the things that got me to Level 12 (I was never in Level 8 myself, even during the nightmare years).

1. The Global Controllers (GCs) are only several thousand people, while the rest of us are several billion. At the policy-setting level, there are only a few hundred of them. At the tippy top are only a couple dozen, and you have never heard of any of them.

2. We do most of their work for them, in our denial, addiction to scarcity-based ideologies, and lack of personal integrity. Those are all fear-based conditions. That is why I keep saying that love is the antidote.

3. While they obviously have a great technological advantage, they know that the only way they can stay in control is to operate in the shadows. If enough people caught on, their game would not last long. Artificially-enforced scarcity is their biggest leverage point, and that rides on the energy situation. That is why they spend all that time and money to keep the lid on FE (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make).

4. Their greatest triumph is not hiding in the shadows, but keeping the masses asleep. We do nearly all of their work for them, however. They are really more like parasites than predators, and they are cowards. The situation is very much like what Roads saw in that negative world, where the manipulators were only taking advantage of a situation that humans had created for themselves out of their greed and indifference (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade). In a sense, we deserve each other. :( It is time to change the game, but it can only be changed by love and true sentience.

5. All FE attempts that have been made so far have been mounted in great ignorance and naïveté, and have catered to greed and other easy-to-defeat motivations (such as Young Warrior delusions of “getting the bad guys” http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors), or it has been the lone inventor-hero, and they are easy to pick off, one at a time. People like Keshe and Rossi do not have a prayer with their approach, if they are legit, unless Godzilla decides to allow it to happen.

6. I know that FE already exists, and related technologies that could turn it into Heaven on Earth in short order (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground), and I also know that the GCs are fractured, with most of them thinking that this power game that is destroying the planet is not such a good idea anymore (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal). They have their survival enclaves underground and off-world (they actually want to terraform Mars when they wreck Earth, such are their grandiose delusions), but they are sobering up to the nature of the game they are playing, and saner minds may prevail at that level, but I am not waiting for it or counting on it. Don’t expect Godzilla to die in his sleep or become a vegetarian – it might happen, but counting on it is foolish.

7. I have never been openly contacted by them, but Dennis has (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer), as have others in my circles, and they usually play a very subtle game. They are not about to come into the open and, like Napoleon, crown themselves. They may slink away if it looks like it is game over for their plans, and I really wish them the best on their journeys. All roads lead back to the Creator, and some just take the “scenic” route through very dark alleys of mind and spirit.

8. The GCs’ entire game relies on the masses being asleep, with easily-picked-off lone rangers appearing here and there. For the herd’s size, the shepherd’s task is surprisingly easy. Most FE efforts self-destruct or are wiped out by local interests before Godzilla needs to lift a claw. We truly do most of Godzilla’s work for him.

9. During my journey, I noticed all of those layers of the FE onion, and Levels 1 to 11 are all, to one degree or another, delusional (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1).

10. On the entire planet, there must be at least 0.0001% of the population that is willing and able to see the big picture, can see the root and not get lost in the weeds, and just keep their eye on the ball. If enough attention is put onto what is important, and what Godzilla hopes that nobody focuses on, maybe that can catalyze the change and get us over the hump. Maybe that is my folly for thinking so, but I am trying to find out.

Here is another example. These guys became Level 8s in the CIA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#stockwell

Ralph broke through that, but it wasn’t easy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

Ralph is one in thousands at the CIA. I can provide many other examples:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

A person’s caring and desire for the truth has to exceed his/her desire for self-interest and comfort. Only one in thousands of people who are exposed to FE have what it takes to become a Level 12. That is not a judgment; those are just the numbers. I give plenty of information where people can find out for themselves, and begin to develop comprehensive thinking:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

If you achieve Level 12, it is virtually guaranteed that you will not meet any others like you in your daily life. There are way too few who can get there, and that is part of the conundrum. For all of those levels below Level 12, people generally get stuck there, and it usually means that they have reached the limits of their integrity and cannot go any further. They will not move any further until an FE machine is delivered to their home, or they can easily go see one, just like with the masses in denial today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

The path of wisdom is to recognize where they are and leave them alone. People cannot be dragged or enticed to Level 12. It requires an awake heart and mind, and nobody can do it for them. All that a Level 12 can do is be an example and point the way. It takes a great deal of hard work to get there. I learned these lessons that hard way, and hope to help others get past those pitfalls. I think, however, that most Level 12 aspirants have to fall into some of the pitfalls to begin to figure out that my levels are not just some theory, but the result of a forty-year journey so far, trading notes with people like Brian O, and watching the adventures of people like Adam Trombly and Sparky Sweet. A Level 12 realizes that almost nobody can really think like a Level 12, but they think (or, dare we say, hope) that if enough Level 12s can be amassed, it may create some harmonic effects that may be profound. This I know: nobody has ever tried what I am doing, and maybe because it is such a foolish undertaking. :)

It is normal to want your friends, family and associates to wake up to FE’s possibility/reality/potential, but if you play that game, count on not only being rejected about 99% of the time, but you will also be actively attacked. It can be mind-boggling that something as beautiful as the means to Heaven on Earth can be treated that way, but all that the herd mentality can see are their niches of hell disappearing, and that scares them. They have adapted to their situation, and any change scares them.

I played the Level 10 game with Dennis, more than once, and I saw how easy it was to defeat. Dennis incredibly still tries, and has admitted to me that he is sifting through the mine tailings of humanity, looking for gold nuggets. He has only found a handful in all his years of playing that game, and I wish him the best, but I highly doubt that such an approach has much of a chance, and it is an extremely dangerous game to play. Dennis has resigned himself to the likely fate that he will keep trying, futilely, to his grave, but he does not know how to do it any other way. My way is radically different than what he is trying. He is not really even aware of what I am trying to do. I am not saying that my approach has a prayer, either, but I am not asking anybody to risk their lives to do it. I am not looking for the hundred heroes, because there are not a hundred like this to find:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Dennis is the only person I know of who can successfully complete that application.

I am asking far less of those participating with me, but I think that there are more of them out there. Those who want to play the Level 10 game are advised to look up Dennis. I don’t know of anybody who has played anywhere close to the level that Dennis has played at. If nothing else, they can learn from his experience, but don’t count on being invited into the inner sanctum right after you meet him. I worked for free for months, then chased him across a continent, before I began to impress him. As his protégé, I saw how difficult and easily defeated our approach was, and it was life-risking activity. I don’t want to do that again, and can’t afford to. I only have one life to burn up on this stuff, but I do not know of a worthier cause, or one with more potential to transform the human journey. We stand on the edge of the abyss today, and it has everything to do with our energy practices and our egocentric allegiance to scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

If enough of us can let go of our conditioning for long enough, and learn to sing the abundance song, even just quietly in our hearts, it may well be enough to catalyze the transition to something that looks a lot like Heaven on Earth in short order. I know that the tools to do it already exist. The problem is waking up to the potential, overcoming our conditioning, and approaching the situation with a healed heart. Again, it is far easier said than done, and only one out of thousands of people are currently fit for the task, but they are scattered across the planet. I am hoping to help round them up.

I am not sure if that answered your question. Ask away, and I will try to zero in on what you are asking. It is an important topic.

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
6th April 2012, 03:59
Hey Wade,

I know you’re a busy man these days so the detailed reply is much appreciated. I’ll just sum up my understanding of it as best I can.

Basically, humanities greed, indifference and scarcity addiction needs to be replaced with a more caring, virtuous, and loving state of being combined with an abundance based mind-set.

Those in Level 8 are very much sponsoring Godzilla’s agenda. I too sponsor it to a large degree, as it's very difficult/nigh on impossible to completely escape it, but a Level 12 ultimately cares far more about the situation than a Level 8 ever will. A Level 12 takes much more responsibility for their part in this mess and cares more about healing the planet as a whole. Level 8’s level of caring tends to operate on a part-time basis. From my experience, those in Level 8 do care about the truth and well being of the planet, but the problem is that for them, things like family, career and financial security take priority. They are ultimately more self-centered.

My persistence with trying to wake people up to FE and all that comes with it is mostly to satisfy my own curiosity. I’ve read your warnings but had to try for myself, largely because I have nothing to lose in terms of career or otherwise, and from experience comes knowledge. Personal attacks are water off a ducks back to me. After a lot of spend time and energy spent trying to wake people up, I now understand why you say things like “…..the path of wisdom is to recognize where they are and leave them alone.” That time and energy is probably better spent elsewhere.

It appears that Level 8 is as ‘high’ as I can hope to take anyone starting out at Level 0, and being stuck on Level 8 doesn't really help anything.

Thanks again,
David

Wade Frazier
6th April 2012, 06:14
Hi David:

Good summary. Accepting personal responsibility for the world we live in is step one, and there are a few facets of it, but accepting responsibility changes the perspective from a victim’s to a creator’s. I was at Level 0 when I met Dennis. Never heard of FE before, so people can go from 0 to 12, eventually, but my case was unusual. Everybody starts at Level 0. How many 0s can go to 12s? Not many, but I don’t want to write off everybody who has not heard of FE. In fact, I really don’t want to be part of the FE “community,” and am trying to reach out beyond it, to people who are currently unaware of FE. As Brian said, the people who will take FE over the top will likely be new to the field:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new

Part of the reason is what few in the field today really have the right stuff, and those that do, go through the meat grinder. But, for those who have heard of FE and are in Levels 1 to 10, what level they settle at says something about them. Most give the knee-jerk Level 1 denial and are done. The more thoughtful have the Level 2 response, where they ask their engineer relative if FE is possible, and when he laughs, that is the end of it for them, because an “expert” has weighed in. The brainy ones usually end up in Level 3, and they probably have the most entrenched denial of FE. You will literally have to place a running FE device in their hands before they will admit it is possible. Even after it runs their house for a few months, they will still have their doubts. That is because they have made the biggest investment in a worldview that denies that FE is even possible, and if it was, nobody could really suppress it. Ironically, they are the most disconnected from reality.

Then you get the Level 4s who are happy to take an FE device, if you want to give them one. They actually like the idea of FE, and if somebody gives them an FE machine they would accept it. How helpful! :)

Up to those levels, the person is probably guilty of being a little lazy. Few of them really have a thirst for the truth, not enough to chase it, especially through the often bewildering FE fields.

Level 5:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

may be where most people end up who get past denial of FE (the contest is between Level 4 and Level 5). That fear can really be something to behold. There is the Pandora’s Box fear, and I’ll not deny that some of it can be legitimate, but I eventually came to realize that I was seeing something else fairly often, and I came to call it an addiction to scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

the niche of hell stuff, etc. The levels past Level 5 are when it can get dangerous. Levels 6 and 7 are where inventors usually end up, and it can be heartbreaking to witness. Those are the ones who often end up as Level 13 casualties:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level13

Then we get to Level 8s, who are, as you note, not really “into” the issue. Their typical reaction to FE is that if they can’t just have it just show up at their house, or make it happen on their lunch hour, it is not going to happen. There are various shades of all of those levels. Some Levels 8s got there by playing the Level 6 or 7 game and getting a snootful, if they survive the experience. Others just get there because they discover that some powerful interests oppose FE, and cede all power to them.

Level 9s are delusional boys, usually, the kind who become cannon fodder in wars. Godzilla does not hang out his shingle or give out his home address. You don’t find him; he finds you, and he can play rough when he needs to.

I am the most sympathetic to Level 10 awareness, like what Dennis Leahy brought up here a few times. But, I played the Level 10 game with Dennis Lee a few times, played it with Brian O, and saw the severe downsides to that approach. In fact, the NEM experience probably crystallized my Level 12 thoughts. People can’t really become useful in this realm unless they really commit to pursuing the truth, healing and so on. The few that I have met like me were all overgrown Boy Scouts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

That Dudley Do-Right attitude was more important than any other trait. Level 12s are going to be initiates. They are going to go deep. They will have a thirst for the truth, their hearts are whole, they are not going to settle for comforting fictions, and they truly want to make the world a better place to live in. They may even dare to imagine what a world based on abundance looks like:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

and won’t get overwhelmed by the experience. If they are really foolish, they will actually believe that such a world might be feasible if FE gets into the right hands. :)

People can say that trying to get folks up to Level 12 from Level 8 is a waste of energy. I don’t know if I would say that, but what I would say is that nobody can be baited or cajoled or deceived into Level 12. A Level 12 is going to go in with eyes wide open, and they are going to be deeply motivated. It is no place for pretenders, the lazy, etc. Look at the kind of effort that Ilie has put in at Avalon, for instance. He is no slouch. He does the work. Several times, he has obtained books I have recommended, or watched movies that I have mentioned, and has insightful things to say about them afterward. Ilie is the gold standard of what I am looking for. Heck, David, you spent months reading my site before you bombed in here at Avalon, and you keep thinking, keep asking insightful questions, keep gnawing on the bone. That is good work, and something that I rarely encounter. You are not laying your life on the line, but I don’t think that you have to, to reach Level 12. Plenty of experience is necessary, but not necessarily the life-risking kind, although the learning curve steepens insanely when you play at those levels, if you survive the experience.

Keep it up.

Best,

Wade

P.S. And the Level 11s are those who constantly try to steal Dennis's companies.

Wade Frazier
6th April 2012, 15:11
Hi:

Quickly, before I go to work. In Homer-Dixon’s book:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&highlight=Homer-Dixon#post440998

he repeated an observation from biology:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=445450&viewfull=1#post445450

where systems that have slack in them, or resilience, are better able to withstand impacts before unraveling. The twin koans of capitalism are efficiency and profits. But in order to do that, systems often sacrifice resilience. Sacrificing resilience for efficiency to skim profits is what makes systems vulnerable to collapse, like we saw with the heavily leveraged financial system’s collapse in 2007-2009. The crazy part is that the leverage is still largely with us, as the governments stepped in to bail out their banking buddies with taxpayer money. As the world runs out of oil, the resilience will decline, leading to susceptibility to collapse. This is one of the primary fears of the Peak Oilers and others.

FE makes all of those fears disappear. Again, it can be surreal to see the heavily entrenched denial of FE that comes from almost all quarters, especially by people who are educated about the energy situation. The Level 3s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

have the most invincible denial that I have encountered. I think it is similar to them being the most threatened by the ET reality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th April 2012, 15:38
Hi:

After months of unsuccessful attempts to obtain permission from Brian’s family to publish an essay on Brian O that included some specifics on what Brian believed was an attempt on his life, I decided to remove the identifying information (I would never name the perpetrators, but I was giving specifics that people could check out for themselves) and publish the essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm

I have not linked to it from my home page yet, but I consider the essay published with this Avalon post.

I intended to disclose that alleged murder attempt to help sober up those who are thinking of playing this game. It is a rough road, and if I ever took my show on the road, I would be risking my life, in several ways. I have no desire to field death threats and murder attempts, and it comes with that territory. I will say that the alleged murder attempt that Brian survived was related to public events that he helped organize and participate in.

I still have some more legacy work to do regarding Brian, and we will see how it goes.

I have a busy weekend ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

sandy
8th April 2012, 01:34
Hi Wade,

As I read your last post and essay I so too wonder where all the sentient beings are in our world. I know, but your essay again left me feeling empathic but sorrowful at the injustices and challenges faced by Brian, Yourself, Dennis, Adam and the many who were persecuted literally to death.

I'm stuck for words because there are no words to compensate and or motivate those in our circles we so love never mind humanity as a whole.

Like Brian we will stay the course until we see Heaven on Earth either way :)

Wade Frazier
8th April 2012, 14:35
Hi Sandy:

Your observations are always welcome, my dear. As Brian said, it is a lonely journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

A few heroes cannot get it done. They are easily picked off, one-at-a-time. And the situation that I discovered the hard way - that the greatest hazard is not Godzilla, but your family and friends:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=459163&viewfull=1#post459163

has more to do with our predicament than Godzilla does. The most painful attacks that I received did not come from Godzilla. Going bankrupt when the sledgehammer came down was the easy part:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bankrupt

Watching people around me, some of whom I had known for most of my life, turn into cowards or Orcs chasing the One Ring was the hard part (or both at the same time, believe it or not; or them being effortlessly enlisted into service by the Orcs via brandished fake carrots). My primary lesson, that personal integrity was the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

was the lesson that I resisted the longest, until I had it finally beaten into my head in no uncertain terms. This pain with family and friends is pretty much a universal condition among those in the FE field. Most of your family and friends will call you crazy. But some get a glimpse of what you are doing and positively respond, and they are the dangerous ones, believe it or not. Every time a friend or family member put me on a pedestal when they caught a whiff of what I was doing, they later attacked me and tried to tear me down. That was due to their ego processes. I mentioned the delusions of grandeur issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

and my own struggles with it. When I had friends and family attack me, especially those who once put me on a pedestal, that was the issue that defeated them. At some level, they understood the immense ramifications of FE, and they had somebody close to them chasing after it. They lived mundane lives, and somebody close to them was going after the biggest event in human history. They wanted to be a part of it somehow, get a piece of the action, or just get a heady whiff of the potential, as they lived their lives of quiet desperation, punching the clock. So, they would fixate on me. There were times when they were truly helpful, but it was almost always me helping them more than they were helping me. Also, their fixation did not reflect trying to help make FE happen, but they were fixating on what I represented to them. At some level, they knew that they did not have what it took to play the FE game, or even really understand how the world works, and they eventually took it out on me. Those people are gone from my life, but they created as much damage as they could on their way out – and they were the people whom I spent thousands of dollars on to help them, and I never did anything to them that could cause them to attack me, other than to ask them to stop trying to help me or compete with me. I could chalk it all up to their egos or some karma that we had, and it could be just that, but I have this suspicion that their fixation became an opening for lower-astral entities to influence them, to try to knock me off my feet. The forces of darkness are real and vigilant, and this dynamic is common with all high level players in the FE milieu, and there aren’t many of us.

Long ago, Dennis told me that the people who screwed him the hardest were “believers” in the cause. Those who were involved because it was merely a job or other business relationship were not the one who sank their daggers in the deepest; it was those who understood some of the ramifications of what Dennis was attempting to do. They turned into Orcs.

As I sit back and read that essay about Brian that I wrote a few months ago, probably the greatest part of me is inspired by such a great man’s journey. Another part is very saddened. I know what he lived through, and that is the great sadness that accompanies understanding the milieu. One pal knew Brian from his Princeton days, when Brian was into mining asteroids and building space colonies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill

He has a NASA background, too, and is a world-class scientist. He said this about Brian: “I miss Brian. He was one of a kind and wonderful.” The man once told me how Brian was always exceedingly kind to him. The angels were lined up ten deep, with trumpets, when Brian passed over, but I don’t want to be writing any more eulogies for FE saints anytime soon. Dennis making the cover of Time magazine, as he has tea with Godzilla, is what I would rather see, but I would not bet on that outcome. :(

I am obviously trying something different. No heroes, no martyrs, but the ground-rumbling thunder of sentient, stampeding lambs.

I host Easter at my house, a week after moving into it. Last year, it was thirty-five people. So, I have to sign off for the day, as I play party slave to my wife. :)

I’ll end with a quote from that great spiritual master, Father Guido Sarducci:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Guido_Sarducci

Long ago, I heard him say that Easter was his favorite holiday, because, “Anybody can be born.” :)

Happy Easter,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th April 2012, 14:59
Hi:

I have a long week ahead of me, and the next month will be extremely busy. After that, I may catch a break, and really get going on that energy essay, but we will see. Part of the problem is that the essay will be comprehensive, and as I rifle through the notes of the latest book that I study, I see another interesting book on energy and humanity, or a book on ecosystem relationships and discontinuities (AKA collapse), and I get it and read it, to help the essay cover those bases better. But this is the year that I have to get it done. I think that I have done enough study to make a compelling case, but there is always more to learn. Working 12-hour days does not help, nor does moving my household, and for that matter, nor does posting at Avalon! :) I have a long-suffering wife with all of this, too. Most whom I really respected in the FE milieu were happily married, although the FE pursuit certainly put everybody through the wringer. They weren’t playing New Age gurus with harems, or the various other roles that the pretenders don. They were the real deal, and the real deals don’t have it easy. Brian O, or Ralph McGehee (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm), or Dennis, those overgrown Boy Scouts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

all had what I consider classic awakening experiences, at least for Americans, where they drank the Kool-Aid deeply, to eventually awaken to what a Big Lie so much of it was. Everybody I know who really awakened went through a similar progression. People who are naturally “rebellious” are doing something different, and I found that those “rebels” were acting out of something like Young Warrior delusions (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors), not really a pursuit of the truth.

Gotta run.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th April 2012, 14:05
Hi:

Before I go to work, briefly, I am besieged by people wanting my time, and it is often in the FE field. I fielded another invitation just last night. I can give an unqualified vote of confidence for virtually nobody in the FE field today. It is a handful, at best. That is partly because I do not pay much attention to the field today, but also when I was in the field, and when I currently watch newcomers make their splashes, they do things that send up numerous red flags. Virtually none of them have the personal integrity or worldliness necessary to navigate very far along the path, and some engage in criminal behavior.

The field is full of naïve newbies and pretenders, and the usual liars get promoted as having keen observations on the milieu, when their primary “virtue” is lying about Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

That lack of integrity in the field is merely common to all human groups today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

so I am not really picking on the FE field, but the issue will have such overwhelming impact on the human journey that virtually nobody in the field today has any business even trying. Because the field is filled with liars, pretenders, opportunists and provocateurs, and the naïve people led astray by them, some days the whole effort seems pretty pointless. That is why Brian said that the people who will bring FE forward will be new to the field:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new

That is another reason for my stampeding lamb strategy, to keep people away from the life-threatening minefields of the FE milieu.

Best,

Wade

Sunfeather
10th April 2012, 17:14
Orcs chasing the One Ring ~ how sadly very true. When we turn attention from getting away from what we dislike, then perhaps attention will be drawn by our aspiration, moving towards the vision rather than away from the dysfunction ~~~ just a thought

Wade Frazier
11th April 2012, 12:42
Hi Sunfeather:

You are zeroing in on an aspect of the conundrum. Dennis called it The Treasure of the Sierra Madre effect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treasure_of_the_Sierra_Madre_(film)

Brian O called it the Gold Rush effect. I call it the Orc and the One Ring effect. :)

After I saw it happen several times, I told Dennis how shocking it was to see:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#shocked

and he replied that the first fifty times he saw it, he was shocked, too.

Those Levels of the FE Onion, from 1 to 11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

are, to one degree or another, fear-based reactions to the idea of FE. Almost nobody today can walk past those minefields of fear, and they are not going to begin to understand the abundance message that comes with FE until it is delivered to their homes, just like Machiavelli said:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

Many years of seeing those various fearful reactions is what led me to seeking the sentient lambs. Whenever the pure positive vision is put forth, people nearly invariably respond with extreme naiveté:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#naive

I wrote something several years ago on the issue that a pal published:

http://www.serendipity.li/fe/minefields.htm

Pure positive visions have never worked, because people react to them in naïveté and fear, believe it or not. I put out the positive visions plenty:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

and I wish it was enough, but it is not. And those who played the FE game, putting out the positive visions and trying to make them happen – the ones that I really respected – all were the targets of murder attempts. I have published what I can about Brian’s murder attempt:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

Mallove’s murder drove Brian out of the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

I watched when Godzilla took out several people involved with the Disclosure Project:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

I don’t think that Adam has talked publicly about it, but of the many murder attempts that he has suffered through, at least one time it worked, and he was clinically dead, but he was sent back by an angel, because his work was not done. Those who play the FE game at the high levels are risking their lives, and it has informed my attempt to do it in a way that is not risking people’s lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

but as you can see from this thread, it has constantly been crashed by people with inventor-itis, those who think we can sneak past Godzilla, and the rest of those early-level perspectives. As I have stated before, it seems that newbies to the field just have to try out some of those lower levels before they begin to understand. All those lower levels are the equivalent of trying to pour the new wine into old skins. They are trying scarcity-based ways of bringing abundance to the world. Their very assumptions defeat them before they start.

Unless Godzilla dies in his sleep, or the ETs or Ascended Masters show up, the only thing that I see with a prayer is the Level 12 approach, but I have only encountered a few level 12s in my life. I am trying to grow more, however. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th April 2012, 14:01
Hi:

One last post before I go to work. Everybody whom I respect in the FE field began their journeys naively. Sparky Sweet mailed off working FE prototypes, thinking that he was going to get a ticker-tape parade:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

Dennis believed the newspaper ads, and thought that the Washington electric companies would love a heating system that delivered the energy savings that they said they were so eager to achieve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#naive

Brian admitted late in his life how naïve he still was about the reality around FE and Earth-healing efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#prologue

When I raised the money to get us going in Boston, Dennis said that his wife was unsure of letting somebody as naïve as me into that mess. She was right; I was naïve. Not many people like hearing it, but naïveté is the starting point in the FE game. Even when I first dreamed of changing the energy paradigm as a teenager:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction

I understood that the vested interests might not welcome the change. My naïveté was not around that, but how almost nobody had the right stuff to even try to make that change. I took many years before I had it beaten into my head:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

I was young enough to survive the experience, but others did not. I saw many wrecked and prematurely-ended lives during those days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

and I decided that I could not afford to pay that price again, nor would I ever ask anybody to get onto the playing field where they could. That is partly why you see my rather strong reactions to naïve, scale-the-ramparts types of posts at Avalon and elsewhere. I already have enough blood on my hands for one life. I am trying for the Level 12, sentient lamb approach:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

That will not be based on denial, but acknowledgement. It acknowledges organized suppression, but does not fixate on it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

It acknowledges that almost all people live in fear, but tries a loving approach. It acknowledges that most people need to have an FE machine delivered to their homes before their eyes begin to open, and leaves them alone until that machine is ready for delivery. A mass movement that caters to lowest-common-denominators (scarcity-based ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant) will not work, because those are the tools that the social managers use to control the great herd of humanity, and you cannot outmaneuver the master shepherd. Heart-centered sentience is the way that I am trying, but it will be anything but easy, in a world where scarcity and fear dominate. But, I am familiar with seemingly crazy and futile gestures working:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

Kind of like in the Harry Potter movies, help is given to those who need it, especially those who are taking on the big issues. I know that there is something a lot bigger happening than meets the eye. I don’t call it faith, but I know that we get help when we least expect it. It somehow comes with the territory of the game we are playing. I am not really very happy about the state of affairs – I want to live in Heaven on Earth (something like this http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1) – and it can be extremely depressing to realize that we are closer today to this world (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade) than that heavenly one, but this is where we all got plunked down, and I think that our jobs are making the best of it, at least for those of us who want to make this world a better place to live in.

Gotta run now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th April 2012, 14:24
Hi:

Briefly, before I go to work, I am currently reading a book on ecosystem dynamics. I am digging into a subject a little more that was a theme in Homer-Dixon’s book.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=462389&viewfull=1#post462389

Ecosystems are organized energy and matter flows where geophysical and life processes interact. If life did not appear on Earth, and especially photosynthetic bacteria, Earth would have lost its hydrogen, and hence its oceans, to space. The high atmospheric oxygen content is driven by photosynthesis, and when sunlight splits water, the hydrogen would eventually escape to space, but it reacts with oxygen on the way up and becomes water again. Earth would probably look a lot like Mars if photosynthetic life had not appeared on Earth.

Systems theory has been applied to ecosystems research, and highly interesting and valuable insights have been derived from its study. It is always energy driven. Systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium are where the action is, especially with life forms. Humans began altering Earth’s ecosystems when they harnessed fire:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#fire

and their impact on Earth’s ecosystems has only accelerated, as humans have burned through one energy resource after another (megafauna, forests, arable land, whales, fur, and now fossil fuels and uranium). Only some Stone Age peoples lived somewhat sustainably, because they did not have the metals that could greatly alter the landscape (deforestation and plow agriculture, most importantly), but no civilization has ever lived abundantly. Some obvious trends have attended the “phases” of civilization, which were founded on the energy surplus:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

But today’s phase has an inertia (George Carlin said that inertia was the most powerful force in the universe :) ), where the vested interests (with Godzilla sitting at the head of the table) are ensuring that we will burn through all of the hydrocarbons before we get to see what is next. They are not only toying with the fate of human civilization, but it is also a dire threat to the planet’s ecosystems, which have been pushed past the edge in many places already (such as the collapse of fisheries). When ecosystems collapse, if they have had their underpinnings weakened sufficiently, they can suffer total collapse. If there is enough resilience left in the system before it collapses, there can be regeneration, such as after certain kinds of forest fires.

Humans have been causing Earth’s greatest mass extinction episode in 65 million years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

When mass extinction events like that occur, it takes millions of years for the ecosystems to recover, and different life forms usually come to dominate the new ecosystems. The dinosaurs’ demise left the field open to a previously marginal life form, mammals, to become the dominant land-based animal. Humans wiped out almost all of the large animals as they spread across the planet, mammals predominantly. Humans have already greatly impacted Earth’s ecosystems, in several waves. In the wave that began about five hundred years ago, the white people of Europe drove many other peoples to the brink of extinction, and sometimes to complete extinction.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#genocide

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first

While some observers are not so sure if that is a bad thing, it is certain that ecosystem diversity, and hence, its resilience, has been greatly impaired by human activities.

If humanity sends it over the cliff with its destructive energy practices, the estimates that I have seen is that it will take Earth’s ecosystems tens of millions of years to recover. And fifty million years from now, when the new dominant life form, which may be intelligent enough to research the past like humans do, perform their studies, they will see six mass extinction episodes in Earth’s past, and the most recent one may be a little mysterious at first. The scientists could not find evidence of a comet impact, hyper-volcanism, gamma ray blasts or the usual suspects of mass extinctions. The signature evidence was the disappearance of the hydrocarbon deposits left by earlier epochs, the quick disappearance of almost all large mammals, and here and there, remnants of an artificial rock were found (we call it concrete), and the spread of ape fossils to everywhere on the planet.

That evidence may puzzle those future scientists for a while, until somebody puts it together with an audacious theory: those ape fossils that spread across the planet as the other animals went extinct may have been intelligent enough to manipulate Earth’s environment on an unprecedented scale. But they quickly burned through their available energy resources, even mining ancient ones from Earth’s crust for a brief time, before they wiped out most of Earth’s species and themselves.

While that ape was capable of manipulating its energy environment with its hands, that audacious theory ignited a fierce debate: was the species sentient? The largest faction doubted that the species was sentient, but more like a creeping cancer that ran its course in few thousand years, leaving behind a devastated planet. But a small fraction made the case that those apes were sentient, sort of. They enhanced their energy practices at the expense of all other species (except those they could exploit) and burned through it all as fast as they could. Those future scientists and others engaged in that debate were a space-faring species that discovered free energy long ago. They knew that the principles of free energy were not that hard to understand or discover. How could an allegedly sentient species fail to tap into that virtually limitless energy source? That issue was one of the primary ones used by the anti-sentience camp. They could not believe that a sentient species would exploit such primitive energy sources and destroy the planet's ecosystems while taking themselves with it. The sentience camp believed that it was possible to be sentient and create such devastating destruction that took themselves out with it. The sentience camp portrayed their theories as a cautionary tale. They theorized that those apes were marginally sentient. Sentient enough to burn through ancient energy deposits, but not sentient enough to see where it was leading, even though the signs must have been obvious.

In short, that is the epitaph that I hope to help prevent humanity from writing for itself. It does not have to be that way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

Maybe this should have been on the fear of FE thread. :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
12th April 2012, 18:08
It is such a pleasure to read you, Wade. I feel like I am getting rich by the minute. You have a wealth of information and understandings as a result of your various life experiences and probably well prior to that... wich is so rare, I appreciate what you are trying to do and feel humbled by it.

I know that I am acquiring some small knowledge when I begin to take notice of stories about free energy that is publicized in the media (ever so few references) and react to it with different eyes. Today, I bumped into a surprising article, appearing under the 'Economist' section of the biggest newspaper in Israel. It has covered the invention of the Italian - Andrea Rossi, wich was probably already mentioned here or in one of the other FE threads (although,I know, it is not what this thread is about..) . The title says: "An Energy out of nothing" (http://www.calcalist.co.il/local/articles/0,7340,L-3567899,00.html?dcRef=ynet), and the article bringing a long and intensive description of this device that apperantly produce more energy than it consumes, it also covered Rossi's 'problematic' past and the government attempts to discredit and withhold such knowledge from the public.
At one point, I would have support such advancment coming out, but today, I commented under this article -

" Andrea Rossi is not a 'believer', and not the a gullible person either, he is an abuser that tries to sell the public what suppose to be free - Air, Oxygen, Hydrogen, the atmosphere , all of it equals to free energy. the meaning of that is non-expendable energy that belongs to every living, breathing creature in this world. The governments, big corporations and oil companies are expansively selling what naturally belongs to everyone, and exists freely, while polluting and depleting our planet earth.This is a public fraud from the begginning. There are many scientists like Rossi, he certainly did not invent the wheel (the article talked about him as the sole crazy inventor of this half free energy device) , free energy exists and is kept in strict confidence by governments and the military, and many scientists like Tesla ended their lives in lack and poverty or buried underground in order that this wonderfull free and abundant option will not be spread out. To patent and try to monopolize something that is naturally belong to all living things, is a continuation of the largest fraud done on the back of humanity. There are some other type of scientists/inventors such as the late Brian O'Leary ,Deniss Lee, Wade Frasier that believe it needs to be completely free to the public, the governments tried to push them, but - "nothing lasts forever"... Could it be that this type of technology that will allow us to keep our house with mildly or without any costs already exist ? And in fact the implications are much larger than that .. What will the oil companies do than? "

There might be a certain benefit for reporting this type of information, or 'invention', because it makes people think in directions they never thought about, allowing them to be more aware. This is probably not any kind of substantial developement that will get our society out of being 'future ape fossils' or 'cancer in remission' :) but it might implant seeds of possibility in the minds of the herd (the herd does not appreciate finding out how much he was F**d ) , better yet is to KNOW the existance of ourself as energy beings as well as everything else. now, that will bring some results..


P.s

Next thing after persuing free energy, is persuing 'free time'... another resource in scarcity :-)

~ oh, the illusion.. ~

sandy
13th April 2012, 00:47
Dear Limor,

Wow, love the rebuttal to the article you read!! You planted some seeds for sure and I say HURRAY!! I do believe that most of the herd do know more and more that they are being f**ked but have resigned themselves to this perversion. To do other wise would take personal integrity and responsibility to evolve one's self.

Until Sugar Daddy becomes even more nasty and easy street is no longer available they will continue to believe in an external authority keeping their heads in the sand and blaming others for their asses being kicked more and more as time passes.

A friend just called me to tell me about going to listen to one of the Chilean Minor's tell his story. The biggest message he received was to never stop living and believing in life and a future. He said the Minor's would gather around and hug those who had become despondent or those who fought were put in the middle while being circled by the others and encouraged to hug one another to get passed their issues.

It was LOVE that got those fellows through and their intention to keep living and working toward a future that created their rescue. Couldn't ask for a better testament than that for what Wade is doing right here in this little corner of the world. :)

CdnSirian
13th April 2012, 01:06
Wade thanks again for taking the time to summarize what you are reading - and expressing your own input. Once in a while when I think of the potential of this species and planet with the use of FE, I flash back to the Apes in 2001, confronted with the Monolith - The Unknown.

FE is difficult to imagine. Yet we (who follow this thread) know we should imagine it, somehow, we must, as best we can.

Power to us.

Wade Frazier
13th April 2012, 05:36
Hi Limor:

The way that Rossi is going about it is somewhat similar to how Dennis used to do it. Rossi comes from the tinkerer end of it, while Dennis was more from the entrepreneur/marketer/promoter end of it. Dennis had a billion dollar deal on the table long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#billion

I am not saying that Rossi is not on the right track, but I really don’t follow his work enough to know. I have a lot of sympathy for people trying what he is attempting, and I have an understanding of that path, but I don’t really want to watch (I have seen too much spilled blood already), but what I have seen from him - going after patents, secret sauce ingredients, exclusive dealers, chasing corporate America and the like - is an approach that I all-too-familiar with, and I let Brian O know it when he was thinking that Rossi had a chance. Rossi has not begun to get to the hard part yet. Brian eventually began supporting open source FE technology. He chased benevolent philanthropist interest for many years (“benevolent philanthropist” is an oxymoron :) ). I think that he eventually realized that benevolent inventors were more important. I have never met an inventor with the goods willing to open source it. That is part of the problem.

I highly doubt that such an approach like Rossi’s has a prayer, but it is a free world, sort of. I am trying to do something radically different. I don’t know if it will work, either, but I never saw anybody try it before, and what I am trying to amass has been a key missing feature of all efforts that I have ever seen. There needs to be a nucleus of an aware, caring and informed public. People who know the score, are not distracted by craziness in the world, and who can focus on what really matters, are what I seek. If we don’t solve the energy issue, and pronto, the rest won’t matter. That nugget of heart-centered sentience that I am trying to amass has never been seen before on this planet.

I am getting offers left and right to speak publicly, be on TV, do interviews, etc. I’ll probably do some of it, but I am trying to follow my agenda, not somebody else’s. I recently responded to somebody who wanted me to join an international effort, to help wake up the naïve, asleep sheeple. That is not my bag, but most of the offers are along those lines. I see many efforts out there that cater to about a third-grade mentality on this stuff. I am aiming a lot higher, but that approach can devolve into a bunch of pipe-smoking navel contemplators, the kind that fill academia. We don’t need any more of that, either.

When I began to engage the public again several years ago, I tried places like ATS:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll1

because they have at least broken out of some of the herd conditioning. But ATS is infested with trolls, and when the trolls ganged up on me, ATS actually banned me, which lends to the suspicion that ATS is really a disinfo mill. But conspiracists miss the boat, too, in many ways. They are united with the pipe-smoking structuralists in their victim-oriented perspective:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

and that is really the root of the problem. Both are victim-and-fear-oriented perspectives. Only a loving and creator-oriented perspective is going to crack this nut, IMO.

Nice post and story, Sandy.

Hi CdnSirian.

Ah, yes, the apes. :) Not sure how fictional 2001 is. We’ll see what I turn all of that reading into. Yes, keeping our mind focused on it is hard to do. In my interviews with Scott, I once said that the gulf between what can be and what is is simply too much for average people to handle, so stuff like FE and its potential is called crazy. That is Godzilla’s greatest triumph, that when FE comes up and its potential, it is all dismissed with a wave of the hand, called too good to be true, and so on. We are our own prison guards. That is why I state that thinking that your family, friends and associates will light up in recognition when you mention FE is wishful thinking, and dangerous. Heck, I can’t bring up FE with my relatives. It is all so weird to them, and the traumas that my family endured due to my journey was rather extreme, so nobody wants to broach the subject. It gets talked about at family gatherings about as much as my cousin does who brutally murdered his infant son, as in not at all. And when people do decide to listen and not dismiss it, that can be worse. One pal turned his relative onto me and FE. After a couple of conversations about Wade’s World, the man ended up in a rubber room, and I got blamed for sending him off the deep end, and all we did is talk a few times. Your feet have to be planted firmly on the ground to even think about FE.

Going to bed now,

Best,

Wade

jcocks
13th April 2012, 05:56
Hi Wade..

I was looking through Kerry Cassidys website the other day, and have come across some interesting information about other companies/organizations working towards plasma fusion technology...

One was mentioned in an interview between Gordon Duff and Mike Harris of repubic broadcasting :

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/mediafiles/mikeharris040912.mp3

Interstingly, they seem to be working with the Iranian government....

The other is an organization called the Keshe Foundation, started by a man by the name of M.T. Keshe

www.keshefoundation.com

Interestingly again, he is of Iranian descent. It seems they are very heavily involved in this area at this time...

The latter is the most intersting link, as he sounds very much to be a level 12er, with the right knowledge to actually get the FE ball rolling.... Kerry will be doing a live interview with him next week, which I will be listening to with great interest.

He also have a discussion board in which he seems to actively participate in. I will be joining up and taking part.

I'm cautiously optimistic that something may actually come of this. I gues its still possible that godzilla could rear his ugly head and smash these movements before they have a chance to take off, but the more who get involved, and if they can get some of the non-aligned governments (non-aligned with the us-godzilla factions) involved it will become very difficult for Godzilla to do so without getting a *LOT* of attention....

The trick is for him to get the information out there as far and as wide as he can as fast as he can......

Limor Wolf
13th April 2012, 08:23
Hi Sandy, what a heart touching story (Chilean minors) ,It seems as if we humans sometimes know instinctively what is needed, when becoming fulfilled with strengh and with healing energy precisely in difficult moments. the LOVE and caring is there all the time, it is simply hidden in order to hold on in this rough world. I know about this personally, love has not come easy to me .

I am afraid for now, they did not add my comment to appear under the article (it was on moderated status), I forgot that my home IP adress is blocked ( I had sent in the past very subtle responses that included the word 'government' in them.. :) but I am usually not much interested in commenting on talkbacks), I will try again in a couple of hours from one of the eight computures at work.

Hello Wade, you seem to work with the 'elimination method' , whatever did not work for you and others in the past is not the way.
They say - "Experience brings wisdom", my question is -is it possible that what jcocks implies that - 'our strengh is in numbers', might have not worked in the past, but has the potential to work now, when certain changes in awarness are happening. it seem to somewhat work in other areas like the growing lack of confidence in the government, finances and there is also a small awakening in the health arena - more and more people are seeking the alternative way. I can guess what your answer might be, I also think that everyone who routinely find interest in this thread can associate abundance, flow of energy together with the love vibration with free energy , but for now, this is still an un-common route. what are your current feelings about it - is 'our strength in numbers' might work now, or a 'few holding the vision' with an inner knowing of what FE is all about, wich one has the most potential to bring the FE into implementation?

It might not be possible not to appreciate and have value and respect towords all the inventors and scientists working on free energy devices, it will have an overwhelming effect on our life as it is, most importantly, on the health of our planet. it's just that the notion of a profit and a patent written on the name of one person, is somewhat contradicting in my mind to the understanding of plenty and abundance for all. some will accuse this thought as naivete, but so be it. We can learn a lot from our neighbors out there (what to do, and what not to do..) , we need to aspire to be our best version of ourselves and behave like it.

off to work

Have an enjoyable day to all,

(and thanks for understanding my English :)

~^&*~^&*

Limor

jaybee
13th April 2012, 11:58
The other is an organization called the Keshe Foundation, started by a man by the name of M.T. Keshe

www.keshefoundation.com

Interestingly again, he is of Iranian descent. It seems they are very heavily involved in this area at this time...

The latter is the most intersting link, as he sounds very much to be a level 12er, with the right knowledge to actually get the FE ball rolling.... Kerry will be doing a live interview with him next week, which I will be listening to with great interest.

He also have a discussion board in which he seems to actively participate in. I will be joining up and taking part.

I'm cautiously optimistic that something may actually come of this. I gues its still possible that godzilla could rear his ugly head and smash these movements before they have a chance to take off, but the more who get involved, and if they can get some of the non-aligned governments (non-aligned with the us-godzilla factions) involved it will become very difficult for Godzilla to do so without getting a *LOT* of attention....

The trick is for him to get the information out there as far and as wide as he can as fast as he can......


Thanks for that jcocks....I look forward to the Mehran Keshe interview with Kerry.

cheers


.

Wade Frazier
13th April 2012, 15:06
Hey guys:

I dealt with Keshe on this thread more than once already, most recently, here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=461583&viewfull=1#post461583

Rossi and Keshe are merely the aspirants of the hour:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=461803&viewfull=1#post461803

Hi Limor:

When it is the same approach over and over, with patents, secret sauce ingredients, and so on, call me unimpressed. I don’t think that approach will work because it is not aligned with the kind of world that it can bring about. The approach that those people are trying literally has a success rate of 0-for-50,000. Godzilla takes such efforts out almost in his sleep, and rarely needs to lift a claw, because they will usually be taken out by themselves, their allies, or the local energy gangsters before Godzilla needs to roll out of bed. Trying to make FE happen via the capitalistic path is doomed, extremely so. Strength in numbers is what Level 12 is all about, but not numbers playing the lowest-common-denominator games of self-interest (which is what patents and secret sauce games are). There is nothing different in the approaches that Keshe and Rossi are taking that has not been tried literally tens of thousands of times before. Part of that approach has to do with the human ego, as in: “Where everybody else failed with that approach, I will succeed.” That is like those immortal-feeling boys who are used as cannon fodder:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

As I repeat over and over, the day that an inventor with the goods is willing to give it to a worthy group, the inventor path will interest me. I have never met that inventor, and that worthy group does not yet exist. Keshe and Rossi come across as very naïve and unworldly. That is no crime – we all start out that way – but on this playing field, it is a prescription for disaster. I have already seen way too many wrecked and prematurely-terminated lives on that path, and don’t really want to watch more naïve inventors trying to scale the ramparts.

Best,

Wade

jcocks
13th April 2012, 15:58
Yeas but he says he is willing to gift the technology, that he does not want payment...

I will still watch the latest developments with interest.

Wade Frazier
13th April 2012, 16:07
An audience is fine, and talk is cheap. He has yet to demonstrate anything other than reactions in coke bottles.

Limor Wolf
13th April 2012, 16:39
Thank you Wade. Rossi is playing the field for many years now, and he had a recent press conference (October 2011) when he demonstrated a heating device that is economical, working multiple times more than the energy it consumes and is ready to be distributed to people's houses.
Leaving aside making his intention to make a profit and register a patent with 'secret ingredients' , On what time and in what stage, from your experience will godzila interfere?

Kindly,

Limor

Wade Frazier
14th April 2012, 03:58
Hi Limor:

I am going to move my response to one of the threads that we set up to deal with FE inventors. It will go here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=467258&viewfull=1#post467258

it already has stuff on Rossi, Searle, and the usual suspects. I’ll put further Keske responses there, too.

Thanks,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th April 2012, 11:09
This morning’s post is over here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=467425&viewfull=1#post467425

I may make another post or two this weekend, but have a busy weekend ahead of me.

Best,

Wade

Elly
14th April 2012, 17:24
Here are interesting excerpts of information I have been listening to. I find it relates to the energy issue, linking it to consciousness and even beyond our dimension. In my opinion, in these words lie the key of our own personal jail. The healing of our planet will start this way. By being aware of our own free energy and doing the work that is needed.

"Individualization requires conscious attention, conscious awareness, actual focusing of minds to concentrate the light. When focus comes down and unveils that which seeks to hide it has nowhere to hide and is vulnerable to the light. The world today is the perversion of something that started perfect. There is a sinister force that wants to hide the truth away from conscious awareness. If something is hidden away, especially from our awareness, and is operating secretly, it is safe, the energy is unchallenged from the action of conscious awareness.

Individuals see reality with a narrow band, five senses, extrapolate from an incomplete set of information and projects a worldview of what they thinks is real. But illusion seems so real and powerful. We have only a sense of the material universe. So this is where the problem lies.

There are collective ideas fashioned into thought forms and millions of people have all bough into the same thought forms. It operates in locked steps. The few doing the thinking for the many. The whole being controlled. Like a huge mass being operated by a small brain. Someone else doing the critical thinking, setting fashion, trends, taking in and reflecting back.

To deal with this condition. To discern what is improper and not allow it to cause disharmony. That attitude, that guard, is something we can engender. There really is a contest for the hearts and minds, a contest for what direction humanity should take in the future.

There is a flow of energy that hold all the electrons at birth and works with them. Learn to hold this charge of light and sustain it. Infuse bodies with own light and power. It is the most secure feeling.

Each individual has the power of the entire universe as long as his determination is held. Self-pity is a disintegrating force. Each one of us is, step by step, gaining conscious mastery of these worlds and self. Strength, courage and confidence are needed to continue to aspire and reach up. Only when one asserts its own strength and wins its victories, one by one, comes confidence and by this principle enters the fullness of one's own power. By becoming self-reliant.

Discordant illusion is temporary. Pass the love of God through it, in a way that it accelerates the fire within it, to where there is no longer disharmony. God power originates from the One. Disqualification does not have this connectivity to the One. It is usurped power of ongoing misqualification. Discordant energy may well be recycled. It has an usurped pirated existence. As long as there are people thinking, reading, believing, those though forms will exist. If we look at these things as unreal, with no power, they become chinese paper tiger."

Wade Frazier
16th April 2012, 05:05
Hi:

I was going to write a post on the levels of the FE game that I see played out there these days, and just responded to somebody tonight on a related subject. I was sent a book on ancient astronauts and ETs that had a huge scientific mistake on its first page, and that was all it took to put that one into the trash bin. I don’t like sifting through the mine tailings, but I am constantly besieged by people trying to get my time and effort, and some get a little, to my wife’s frustration.

I wrote to my pal…

Pursuing the truth is not easy on this planet. A million rabbit holes exist to trap the unwary. Direct experience is the best, and maybe only, teacher. Failing that, we can try to learn from the experiences of others, or piece together what seems to be “evidence.” The “rules” of scholarship and science evolved because such activities, in their often high-mindedness, are often removed from direct experience, or get their experience in controlled settings that do not necessarily reflect the real world. Because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, in a world dominated by scarcity and fear, it can be extremely difficult to take the scholar’s or scientist’s route to useful insights. The rules are rarely followed perfectly in the mundane areas of scholarship and science, much less on the leading edges.

Not only are those pursuits intellectually challenging, but the important stuff, like energy, is obfuscated behind many layers of self-serving deceptions and other games by the people pulling the world’s strings, with carrots and sticks used when needed to keep the scientists and scholars toeing the party line. So, when scientists or scholars pursue issues that can challenge the status quo, many perils arise. One is that they are likely blazing new trails, so there is nobody to follow, so they can really screw it up. The other is that the Big Boys can wreck their lives with a flick of the wrist if they so desire (careers can end, lives can end). The other is that for issues such as free energy, the stakes are so huge that it overwhelms people who even glimpse its potential. The ET issue is joined at the hip with the free energy and advanced technology issue, for reasons that you know well.

So, for scientists and scholars to tackle stuff like free energy and the ET situation, they need to begin with the motivation of a saint and a ruthless desire for the truth. There aren’t many of those running around on the planet for any subject, and I have almost never encountered anybody in the free energy field who really had the right stuff. Those I respect all started out naïve, and that is no crime. But we had to give it up pretty quickly if we wanted to survive for long on the path. Brian kept a fair bit of naïveté until the end, but was honest enough to admit it in the forward of his last book. So, the scientist or scholar had better start with the highest motivation, the best information, and the keenest sense of discernment to even walk ten feet down the ET and free energy path. That book you sent me sure looked slick, like plenty of hard work went into it, but an incredible scientific blunder was on about page one. For somebody writing on this subject matter, that really is unforgivable. Most authors on those subjects don’t make our lives that easy, but make many assertions that may or may not be true – you have to do the digging to find out, and that does not mean surfing Wikipedia for five minutes – and the authors usually don’t just make assertions, but they use them as foundations for some new look at the situation. Unless you do the digging, you will not know if they built their edifice on a foundation of sand or not. In the end, most of the ET stuff is a great big maybe. My visits to James’s ranch convinced me in spectacular fashion that there are intelligently piloted craft up there that respond to James. That much is clear. So, James has a certain cred with me on his other claims, but we should all base such second-hand evidence on the best that we have available. When it starts getting into third and fourth-hand evidence, then it can really start going astray.

But those many books on ancient astronauts and the like are mostly chaff. Yes, the truth may be in there somewhere, but almost nobody can muster a fine effort, for those reasons listed above. I went, I saw, and I know fellow travelers who I trust who went and saw. Not many can even survive the path for long. There aren’t many that I feel that way about, but I built my picture from that stuff, not the study of books so much. You ain’t going to find it in a book. You can find signposts that can lead you to it, and finding guides that you can trust is the hard part, but in the end, those who walk the path are the ones who are going to find out. The rest is largely relegated to pretty theory and hearsay.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th April 2012, 14:16
Hi:

I have a crazily busy week ahead of me, but before it begins….

I don’t like naming names of those making the ignoble efforts. I try to only name those that I support and admire in the FE milieu, and there aren’t many of them. I see the field regularly crashed by newbies who really have no idea what they are getting into, trying out the same timeworn paths that are slaked with blood. And I see efforts launched all the time that play at the kindergarten level and pander to scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and their attendant fairy tales. That is not my game. I have been a part of kindergarten and third-grade level efforts, and I saw how easy they were to defeat, largely because kindergarteners were easy to lure into cars with candy bars, and that includes the man who ran the world’s largest factory and his world-class scientist pal:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492

They were old enough to be my parents and then some, and were almost effortlessly led into the car with that offer of the candy bar. The energy issue is the biggest one on Earth and the one that Godzilla watches the most closely. Life on Earth and the human journey have always ridden atop the energy situation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

If we don’t solve the energy issue, and pronto, the rest literally won’t matter. My Level 12 choir idea:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

is about raising the bar way above the kindergarten level stuff that is out there today. I see plenty of smart people who are scholars, scientists and engineers get involved in this field, but their naïveté and indoctrination greatly limits their perspectives.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

Carmody and I just mixed it up on another thread over some third-grade “futurist’s” summary of what lies ahead and how entrenched the dominant industries are:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy&p=468412&viewfull=1#post468412

I am sorry if I come across as a curmudgeon, but I am trying to raise the bar. This thread is riddled with posts about FE tinkerers, and I have tried to move those conversations to other threads that are appropriate:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=467258&viewfull=1#post467258

because the FE tinkerer subject is strictly for newbies. And when I see the subsequent posts on those threads, all I can think of is “lambs to the slaughter.” Nobody is going to get a viable FE effort off the ground by commiserating with their buddies and tinkering in their garages. If you can build a Boeing 747 in your back yard with parts that you bought at the hardware store, then maybe you can build an FE machine in your garage. Making FE devices is quite a feat. You can’t do it in non-industrialized nations, because they don’t have the technological infrastructure to support you – the USA, Japan and Germany are about the only nations that have the technical infrastructure to readily go after FE, and that is where Godzilla is the most vigilant, but there is literally no place to run and hide on the planet.

Think in terms of building an Intel Pentium chip for a viable FE device. That is kind of like what the technical effort would be to build one for the home. The newbies almost invariably think they can go sneaking about under Godzilla’s radar. That is potentially-fatal foolishness, and I discourage it whenever I see it. Brian O tried in his books to sober people up about the technical issues. Taking a proof-of-concept FE device to production-ready requires hundreds of millions of dollars. And that is one of the no-man’s lands of the FE field. Godzilla rarely needs to intervene, because the capitalist shark tank takes care of it, as greed infects everybody, as they slaughter each other like Orcs chasing the One Ring. The FE conundrum is not really about technology. It is about humanity’s level of sentience and caring. Love and high sentience is the only way to get there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#stage1

Similarly, all of the mass movement efforts that I have ever seen were doomed. They virtually all played to those lowest-common-denominator ideologies to get their foot in the door:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and they virtually all played to the victim mentality, like “protestors” have. Protest is worthless in this milieu, because it operates from the victim mentality and gives its power away to the “powerful.” Brian O never quite overcame his co-dependence with Washington D.C.,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#early

but I played along with him at times, but wondered what the heck he really thought he was doing:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

I am finished with humoring those kinds of delusions. Time is short, and I am trying to do something different. The federal government, of any nation, is a dead end. Tinkering is a dead end. Tinkering in “secret” is acting out some adolescent fantasy. Playing the capitalist game is a dead end. Patents are a dead end. Chasing “philanthropists” is a dead end. Marching on Washington D.C. is a dead end. The important power really is not there, or in any of the alleged power spots. Godzilla does not hang out his shingle. Paradoxically, the power really is with us, but we have given it away. Only a loving reclamation of our power will work. It is not easy being Godzilla, and he deserves our sympathy, because he is the most deluded of all:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love

I don’t kid myself that the people that I seek are on every street corner. They are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population (and may be far less than that), but they are the only people who can help along what I am doing. They are going to want to see the big picture, at least as big as we can see from down here in physical reality, on this tiny planet. They left behind the scarcity-based baggage of their conditioning, or are trying real hard to. They are doing their best to think like creators instead of victims. They are doing their best to let love reign in their hearts, not fear. They also can think about the real world in depth and are highly discerning, because there is a ton of chaff for every kernel of wheat. They will likely have some scientific training, or can do the work to understand the rudiments of science. However, they will also have seen beyond the indoctrination that scientists receive, which may be the most effective indoctrination that any group receives. The “smart” people almost all end up in Level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

and they are only going to be dislodged from their armchairs by somebody delivering an FE machine to their homes, just like with the rest of the masses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

That chart of the levels of the FE onion was developed by lifetimes of experience in the milieu, both mine and those of my few fellow travelers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Everything below Level 12 is a doomed, newbie perspective. Impatience is my Achilles heel:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

and I have gotten to test it daily for the past thirty years or so. That invitation-only forum that I eventually mount, if I have to do it myself, is about having a high-level conversation about how the world really works (or at least our delusions on the subject :) ), and about what it can look like if FE makes it past the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia. It can look amazing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

I am not willing to settle for anything less. Even a cloistered forum like Avalon may not be the place where I can have that conversation, but it is the only conversation that I am interested in. If only one post per week is made here, but it is a good, well-thought out one, then it will be a worthwhile conversation. All the newbie posts about the tinkerer of the hour do not interest me. This has been happening clear back to Tesla. I am not interested in that approach, or those many others that are dead ends, and I am trying a different one.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
16th April 2012, 15:36
Hello Wade,

You make yourself heard loud and clear, such an uncompromising attitude derived from your voyages, can lead either to a ' cul-de-sac', or to finding/manifesting the 'major route' , I bet on the last one.

The African - american poet Gwendolyn Brooks has been quoted to say:

“As you get older, you find that often the wheat, disentangling itself from the chaff, comes out to meet you”

I hope that will happen sooner than later.

Timing is the one thing I learned to trust in the last couple of years, I am certain that you know it as well


~^&*~^&*

Limor

Wade Frazier
17th April 2012, 13:32
Hi Limor:

I am probably going to an invitation-only forum sooner than later. It is those bloody cul-de-sacs that I keep trying to warn newbies about, but they seem determined to go running down those dark allies. I feel like that guy warning those knights about the killer rabbit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

I already have too much blood on my hands. Another analogy, and I am sorry if this hits too close to home, is what a Jewish friend told me recently, and I also heard such stories during my terrible researches of World War II and the Final Solution.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#toward

My friend knew of a man who escaped the death camps and went back to his community with his horrific tale and warning. Nobody would believe it. They felt that he was fantasizing about the conditions that he experienced.

I want to live in Heaven on Earth, or at least see it heading that way before I cash in my chips. FE is the single best way to get there, and may be the only way to get there. But humanity’s inertia and the power structure’s predators stand in the way, and the inertia is about 95% of the problem, not the predators. Not many people on Earth have survived encounters with Godzilla and are talking about it like I am. Most who “get it” did not get it from Godzilla, but from the velociraptors and the T-Rexes. The murder attempt that shortened Brian O’s life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

was likely made by a T-Rex, not Godzilla. Dennis got chewed on by velociraptors:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

and T-Rexes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

before Godzilla joined the party. Godzilla plays a far more sophisticated and subtle game than the velociraptors and T-Rexes do. In fact, most who were taken out by Godzilla never realized what really happened. The golden handcuffs is Godzilla’s preferred method of dealing with the problem before he plays rough:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

and tinkerers have told me that they aspire to getting the golden handcuffs, such are their delusions.

But, on the subject of the predators, I regularly see my warnings fall on deaf ears as newbies race for the bloody cul-de-sacs. I am probably going pretty quiet at Avalon, and will likely stop responding to all the tinkerer and inventor-hero posts that are constantly made here. I ask that such people stop wrecking this thread, but put posts on the threads built for just that purpose:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=431665#post431665

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=358844&viewfull=1#post358844

Free energy physics also has a thread devoted to it:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14129-Free-Energy-Physics&p=138564&viewfull=1#post138564

I have to get into a more controlled environment so that I can get the conversation going in the way that I want it to, and I don’t kid myself that many will want to listen, but I will be trying to raise the bar far beyond the levels that you see it on my threads. IMO, that conversation needs to happen in at least one place on the planet. So far, all the conversations I ever saw were at very low, introductory levels, probably because nobody in them has played at the high levels.

From here on out, I will likely be making posts solely related to the essay that I am working on, as previews that some will want to chew on and discuss.

Running off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
17th April 2012, 17:14
Understood. I doubt if Michael Jordan would have found an interest to play basketball in the neighberhood league, and we ain't talking about basketball play..

A week ago I had a few days of fatigue and weakness, but also felt very alert and focused, there was tension and wierd energy going through my body. Before I fell asleep, I was wondering what was going on.. After 5 hours of night sleep I woke up, suddenly the term " Method of pulses" poped in my head. I have never heard such a term (sounds much stranger in Hebrew), what does this phrase mean, if at all ? I decided to memorize it in my head and about an hour later I went to the computure and googled this term.

I found this : "method of pulses = Method of Electricity" - An equation whereby it is possible to know the voltage on the capacitor at any time. Each time it takes to find electric flows, Voltages, we first calculate the instantaneous voltage of the capacitor, using the method of pulses. This solution is correct only if the initial condition is zero."

In an unexplainable way, I feel it has something to do with the changing body energies in recent days. My own journey has started (consciously) at the end of 2005 when I was waking up at night several times only to find again and again round hours and many zero's (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13633-Our-x-factor) on the clock, which lasts to this day.

I am not even sure why I am mentioning it.. I have no intention to derail this thread . But 'Energy' has woke me up, I know that I AM energy, we all are basically.. energy makes the world go round, energy IS the world. And I would like to know more about the potential natural use of it which is our given right from birth. So, I hope that the invitation - only forum, will at least be open to the public to read, maybe, as you say, not many will want to participate, but the option to learn needs to be given to all who wish to.. even if they are only playing basketball in the neighborhood yard. Please consider it, Wade.


Thank you,

Limor

Wade Frazier
18th April 2012, 04:13
Hi Limor:

Let there be no doubt about it; there are people at Avalon who can play ball. It is just that I have a very specific game of HORSE in mind, which nobody has really seen before, and not many understand. I need enough people who understand so that the game can be played. Dennis is Jordan, and I was his ball boy. I carried Brian’s spears, but what I am trying to create is something that was missing from all efforts that I saw. I think it is needed, and it is something that I have to do. I have family and friends who look at me, and my “crazy” persistence, and wonder what makes me tick. FE would be the biggest event in human history, by far, and pursuing it is not a bad life project to undertake. It beats watching TV.

I have written it on this thread many times; that forum I have in mind will be very public in that it will be available to the world, and it is intended to be a very high-minded and heart-centered exchange between real people. It is intended to be a campfire that people around the world can warm themselves at. My intent is to help get that choir going. I have to write the hymnal first (I regard my site today as mere scribblings, and I don’t have time to do better right now, but that upcoming essay is intended to be a start), but I expect the choir members to bring their own songs, too. But not just anybody is going to be in the choir. They need to hit the notes. They need to know the songs. There will be try outs. As I have stated plenty, if people want to know what I am looking for, look at what Ilie has contributed to my threads. Right now, the song I have in mind has not really been heard before. Will I even hit the notes I envision? Probably not, but I am going to try. On good days I may hit some of them, and on bad days, I won’t.

I wrote plenty on this thread of how my perspective evolved during my journey. My years with Dennis comprised the big class, but I also learned some things from Brian and my few fellow travelers. But I saw that an aware and engaged public was completely missing. Dennis would try to entice and flog them into a semblance of an army that could scale the ramparts, and we gave Godzilla some interesting days at the office, but that army was only there because it was being paid and fed, and mercenaries are easy to defeat - just offer them more, and Godzilla's pockets are pretty deep. Again, I don’t kid myself that the people I am looking for are just standing on street corners, waiting to join up. I am looking for needles in haystacks, and I found some at Avalon, and for that I can only be grateful.

But all the inventor-itis and other perspectives that you see on this thread and its relatives really sends the conversations in directions that I had an interest in thirty years ago, but not anymore. I left that behind as part of my learning experience. I think that most people probably have to go through those phases, but it is easy to get stuck there (those levels below Level 12 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1).

I grew up in an inventor’s workshop:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and Dennis’s orientation when I met him was inventors and putting disruptive energy technology on the market (and he is still doggedly at it, to my amazement), and oh what a learning experience that was. About the only reason that I survived the experience was my youth. Those days literally killed people around me, including one saint whom I got involved in my mess:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

and that will haunt me for the rest of my earthly days.

I am trying to do something very different than debate the inventor of the hour and if he “has it!” That entire path is littered with martyrs. I can understand being mesmerized by the horserace as some other inventor tries to scale the ramparts, but Dennis got further along than anybody else ever did (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic), and I know what awaits those would-be heroes, or at least will while Godzilla is alive and the jungle is filled with velociraptors and T-Rexes. I am trying to do something different, radically different, and we will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
20th April 2012, 11:23
In 2008 I recieved a free printed booklet copy by mail called "Hercolubus or red planet", a very grim prophecy by a Colombian author - V.M Rabolu. There was not much there but gloom and doom, However, one thing has received my attention, the author's description of life on other planets.
it's appeal has immediately draw my attention:

Life on Venus -

"...The Venusians have a broad forehead, blue eyes, stright nose, blond hair and an astonishing intelligence... When you are talking with a venusian, the others carry on with their work and continue about their business without stopping. They are not like us, who crowd around, everybody passes by with no curiosity or surprise. It is a culture the likes of which one has never seen.

The soil on Venus is not compact or heavy like ours,but light and soft. As for stones, we might imagine them to be like those on our planet but they are not. There are all sorts of stones, big and small, but they do not have the same weight as they would here... Fruit trees are even planted on the flat roofs of houses in pots and with good fertilised soil, so that they bear fruit. There, nobody takes a piece of fruit simply because they feel like doing so, but they wait until it is ripe and in season. They harvest with a device, without touching the fruit with their hands, and it goes through tubes to revolving tanks of very pure water where it goes through a special cleaning process. After the fruit has been cleaned it goes through another tube to machines where it pulverised. From there it goes to another container where more vitamins are added, and than it is sealed hermetically. This is one of their foods.

... Fish are extremely tame, they are not afraid of anyone. When they need to eat some they look to see which ones they want to use. They carefully lay out a net without damaging or frightening the other fish... they get the fish through a special cleaning. this happens without handling them. the fish are pulverised and more natural vitamins are added. this is another of their foods. the same is done with vegetables. Nobody eats meat of any kind there.

There are places where they go and sit at a table, let us say like restaurants. Since all the inhabitants read thoughts, it is not necessary to order the dish you would like to have. The dish arrives without you moving your lips. They do not express thanks or other similiar things that we do here. Once you have eaten you stand up from the table and you do not have to ask how much it costs, how much you awe, or say thanks, because everyone expresses thanks with a movement of the head.

The same thing happens with the clothes shops. When they want to change, they go into a shop and immediatly receive clothes and shoes.

Nobody owns a house there. When a Venusian couple is tired or wants to rest, they press a switch on a house or a building, where a dark room is formed. They press another switch and a bed appears. There is no need to say 'that is mine', rather it belongs to whoever needs it, without asking anybody for permission.

The streets of Venus are not like ours. There the avenues move like a conveyor belt. There are no accidents of any kind because everything is orderly. The vehicles are beautiful, richly decorated platforms. They depart, reach their destination and the platform descends with all the people on it. It is not the people who get down but the platform that lowers. Than another platform goes up, which is already loaded with other people, ready to continue its journey. The streets are powered with solar energy, as is every machine. Oil and petrol are not used, nor is anything that causes pollution. For that reason there is no pollution.

To build houses they do not go up as we do here, Where you have to climb several meters high to work. Everybody works from the ground. The roof of the building is the first thing they assemble, then they lift this structure by means of thought and continue building the next floor. When it is ready, they lift it again and so on. without risking accidents.

Venusians men and women work two hours daily, all at their profession. Money does not exist there and nobody owns anything. Everybody has the right to everything and works for everyone. There is no Mr so-and-so or Sir so-and-so, because there is equality. The law is to work two hours daily, so that hunger and poverty do not exist.

By using their powers and faculties they control nature. When they choose, they make it rain, they make the sun shine or they cloud over the sky. It is not as it is with us, where we are under Natures power.

There are no permits like 'I need permission to travel to another planet', no. There, every Venusian can take a spaceship from the station Where they are kept, to travel where they wish, be it to another planet or other galaxies, without asking anybody. There is total freedom with the provison that, when they return, they leave the spaceship where they found it, so someone else can use it.

There are no religions of any kind. The religion is the mutual respect towords life and others... There they use something like Transmutation of the Energies. That is why they prolong their lives as they wish, because, the energy is one's own life,by contrast to our planet where young people look old... When you shake hands with them, you feel an electrical current that shakes you as if you were receiving energy, because they are full of energy.

When a child is born (they make children differently to us, some things in the 'old way' may stay :) he is transferred to a place with full care where he gets special food, untill he is old enough to study...In order to study the vocation that this soul carries within, the directors of those schools teach him how to use machinery and let him develop his own ideas.
When a child has an idea to produce something, the teachers help the child to complete it until he makes the mechanism he wants... On Venus no one is ignorant and everyone is prepared for the material and spiritual ascent.

Life on Mars

Life on Mars is exactly the same as on Venus. There is freedom in everything. The Martians can move to any place on the planet, without needing papers ot pasports or anything like that and without needing anyone's permission. Wherever they go, there is an opportunity to eat, sleep and have a change of clothes. Everywhere on Mars, wherever they may be, they find everything they need, because there are no borders and, instead, complete freedom...

I can tell you that on those planets nobody works using brute force as we do in our world. Nobody sweats. They do not exhaust themselvs because there are the machines that do the work. They are all run by solar energy. Their work is to guide and operate the machines, relieving each other in shifts. Everything functions through their wisdom.

The inhbitants are so mindfuly powerful that they are born, grow up and die at will. When they are tired of their physical body and die,they are laid in a hollow exactly their size, which is in a wall. A door is closed and a button is pressed. They become ashes in a matter of minutes. If they were not quite dead, than the button does not work and they are taken out to die completely. There are no cemeteries. The ashes are scattered by a tree or buried. Nobody cries because of a person's death. Death for them is a change of clothes, nothing else...
In those worlds there is no involution in plants, animals, humans or planets. Everything is ascending.

On Mars and on the other planets, they respect the free will of each person, they respect each other, life and everything. It is not the same as the inhbitants of the Earth, who want to control the world purely by means of bullets and threats, laughably, here we deny the existence of life on Mars and other planets."

*******************


Whether it has any real validity or it's a mere imaginary description is of no matter, it is still an interesting base from which to take example (but lets replace the solar energy with free energy :) of how to establish a life that consist of much more abundance and freedom for all, than we currently have. and from there, we can possibly take it much much further.

Wade Frazier
20th April 2012, 15:14
Hi Limor:

Thanks. If those are real accounts, they are not in this dimension, because Venus and Mars cannot host life as we know it, although the megalomaniacal GCs are planning to terraform Mars as a haven if/when they crash this planet. Many regard what Roads saw in future Earths as fantasy, but I don’t:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

I know extremely talented psychics who have made similar visits to when/where Roads did. Yes, those kinds of realities can be stars to steer by, and Roads is one of mine, but most of mine is just thinking about what FE can do for the last 25 years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

Running off the work now. This weekend, I will make a post on some stuff I have been reading lately, on energy, ecosystems, and the rise and fall of civilizations. That will be a primary theme in my upcoming essay.

Best,

Wade

EC1000
20th April 2012, 17:23
Wade-just want you to know that i appreciate your work and sharing it here and even though i'm an avalon newbie if you go to invite only, please invite me. I promise not to ask any silly questions or tell you about some guy i know who is making a FE device in his garage! :) I PROMISE
thanks!

eaglespirit
21st April 2012, 00:27
WE are the Miracles that will help Miracles occur, now more than ever the time has come and is here...
"believing" Abundance will unfold will WILL it into Being in these 'changing times' of unprecedented Unconditional Love and Selfless Service!
The Time Has Come, Wade : )

Wade Frazier
21st April 2012, 13:22
Hi:

As threatened, I am making a post that is beginning to sketch the themes of my upcoming essay. I recently finished reading Discontinuities in Ecosystems and Other Complex Systems, edited by Allen and Hollings, and am in the midst of reading my sixth book by the generalist anthropologist Brian Fagan, titled, The Great Warming, which is about the Medieval Warm Period, which led to Europe’s High Middle Ages, but which generally created great droughts for many of the world’s peoples, which led to the fall of the Mayans, Angkor Wat, the Anasazi and other civilizations.

Whether it is studying molecular biology, climate change, ecosystems operation or the rise and fall of civilizations, the study is always of a system. A system, by its very nature, is something that moves. And if it moves, it is because energy propels it. All real-world systems are essentially matter flows propelled by energy (and matter is just a form of energy - it is all energy, in the end).

Scientists call ecosystems “self-organized” flows of matter and energy. The “self-organized” aspect of them is kind of a tautology; they are organized, but no organizer is evident. Every system is organized, by its very nature. I understand the seduction of thinking that the human body is nothing more than a more complicated version of Earth’s ocean currents, but any scientist can blast away the scientific establishment's materialistic assumptions regarding consciousness with a week of meditation training in Silva or something similar:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

Abstract thinking is something that humans excel at more than almost any other animal, and there are systems of human thought. However, they are not real like an ecosystem is. They are imaginary, but humans often treat them as real. That is partly because in a world of scarcity, ideological adherence or rejection has material consequences.

What can be striking in studying systems is that the energy driving them usually becomes an invisible assumption to those that study them, kind of like the air we breathe. Part of that is understandable, because virtually all systems on Earth are ultimately driven by the sun’s energy. It is the author of the feast, so to speak, and is kind of dismissed as a constant, the ultimate source of all energy (or, the energy that comes from the radioactive decay of uranium, for instance, but that is really stored energy that came from a star’s collapse). That often-invisible assumption also manifests in another assumption, which is energy scarcity; only so much solar energy hits Earth, and we have to make do with what we receive. Mining hydrocarbons is a kind of “sugar high,” where humanity is burning through many millions of years of energy storage by Earth’s ecosystems and geophysical processes in mere hundreds of years, and that orgy of consumption is nearing its end as we burn all of it up in the service of our lifestyles. So, energy-scarcity, and hence economic scarcity, is the great, invisible assumption that underlies all dominant ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Sometimes the assumption of scarcity is obvious, as with nationalism, capitalism and communism, and in others it is more subtle, as with materialism and scientism. But that insidious assumption of scarcity is largely why people cannot or refuse to even imagine that free energy can exist. FE upends the founding assumption of all the dominant games that we play in our heads. Abundance literally makes scarcity disappear. The world as we know it, and imagine it to be, would end with the advent of FE. The greatest barrier to it happening is the great majority of humanity’s utter inability to even imagine it. Also, elites are as old as civilization, as they clawed their way to the top of the economic surplus afforded by agriculture and other energy-intensive practices. No human energy practices have really been sustainable, except for some Stone Age practices:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#amazon

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#northwest

after all the easy meat was rendered extinct:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

But there has never been an abundant civilization, because energy has never been abundant. The exuberance of the West, as it burns through the fossil fuels as quickly as possible, is not abundance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

Much of what I just wrote is my original synthesis and contribution to this issue, so I feel a great responsibility for getting that message across. So far, almost nobody has been able to really see what I am referring to. When the FE issue comes up, it is almost always denied (Levels 1 to 3 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1), feared outright (Level 5), or when they get past outright denial and fear, they try to pour the new wine into old skins with inventor-itis, scale-the-ramparts-itis, Young Warrior-ness (Level 9), stampede-itis, and those other unproductive responses (Levels 6 to 11). Those other levels either deny that Godzilla exists (the hyper-elites who run the world from behind the scenes, and they are all too real, as I can attest from experience, I am sorry to say), think that he is asleep or dead, can be defeated in combat, and other delusions. I am sympathetic to people exploring those unproductive levels or who are mired in them, partly because I was in Level 10 once myself, and even a little Level 11. I am familiar with the seductions of those levels, but they are life-wrecking and life-wasting. I hope to prevent as many newbies as possible from disappearing down those rabbit holes. I have watched many lives get wasted and prematurely ended while traveling those paths.

When somebody like Dennis or Brian O has taken the FE stage, people have paid attention for reasons other than a comprehensive understanding of the energy issue. Dennis got attention because he played PT Barnum, Indiana Jones, Santa Claus, and a fundamentalist preacher all wrapped into one, threatening to pull the quadrillion dollar rabbit out of his hat:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

and Brian O’s celebrity as an astronaut is what drew most of the attention to his efforts from the “fringes.” This FE issue does not need any more hero-martyrs, and I do not want to add my name to that long list. I have already suffered enough on my journey and do not seek to entice others into risking their lives regarding this issue, even though humanity’s fate is almost entirely dependent on its outcome. The energy issue will either destroy us, or we can ride it to Heaven on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

Until more people understand the energy issue, and not just how it has run all civilizations for all time, or even how it runs all life on Earth and all systems, but how energy scarcity has shaped all facets of our lives on Earth, and how radically transforming abundant energy can be, we are not going to muster the momentum needed to break through humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression. That is what my Level 12 idea is all about.

That is my game, and time is short. I am doing all of this in my “spare” time, working 60-80 hour weeks at my day job and playing husband and family patriarch (I never signed up for it, but here I am in the role, rather reluctantly), so it has been a fitful process, and I also have my own ego issues (impatience, primarily, that is tested in many ways, but one of them, yes EC1000, is having newbies constantly make their Level 6 and Level 7 posts on my Avalon threads). We need to get past those beginner’s perspectives if we are going to get very far.

To segue to EC1000’s post, that forum that I envision will be available for reading to anybody with an Internet connection, EC1000, so you do not have to worry about being able to read it. But all participants will have real names and faces, not the pseudonyms that abound on the Internet. For an idea of what I am thinking of, this forum is like it:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2861&hl=%2Bsimulated+%2Bassassination+%2Bawry

I am a member of that forum, and may get that conversation going there one day, although I may have to start my own, or maybe in a sub-forum at Avalon. That jury is still out.

But, I am going to require that the choir thinks deeply about these issues. My intent is to help develop comprehensive thinkers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and when FE is part of the paradigm, it can be an abundant one. The heart-centered posts that Sandy makes on my threads comprise the kind of heart-sentience that is also a key to seeing the bigger picture. The heart needs to lead the head in these matters. Again, I have no illusions that the people who can presently achieve that level of awareness are on every street corner. I have only met a few in my lifetime. Most are/were in the FE community, but they can come from all walks of life. However, all roads lead to FE. It is the practical engine of abundance and Heaven on Earth. Nothing else can really do it. The New Agey ideas of “energy” (female “energy,” male “energy,” and the rest of those fuzzy ideas) are also not what I am referring to, but I am pointing to the energy that performs work, that runs ecosystems, civilizations, and our bodies.

I have three crazy weeks at my day job ahead of me, so I am going to be fairly quiet. Again, I am really going to focus on the subject matter of my upcoming essay and get that ball rolling, and when somebody makes posts on this thread on the inventor of the hour and wonders if he “has it!”, I am going immediately ask that they move those posts to the threads designated for them. Let’s begin to raise our games. :)

Enjoy the spring, for those of you in the temperate Northern Hemisphere,

Wade

sandy
21st April 2012, 20:20
Hi Wade,

I support all you do and write about as you know, and I too think it is time to raise the game. Therefore I commit to more heart centered posts and some that may include truths that some posters/readers may take umbrage with.

However LOVE is not always something that makes one only feel the positive nature of; but includes telling truths that can often pop bubbles that others may have surrounded themselves with for varied reasons. I assume we all have them some more than others and it is many of these bubbles that need to be deflated to get to the authentic HEART of all of us and all of what truly matters.

Let's start really talking with one another besides discussing content. I'll start by sharing what my experience of being a Hero to many in my life brought me for the most part. I came to an understanding that it really was all about me and the need to be rescued and loved so in doing so for others I hoped for such in return. :) Not the case in general and if or when the odd time someone did step up to the plate I couldn't let it happen because I couldn't let go of the control.

I set myself up to be a hero and when I failed in others eyes I was crucified many times over. Brought me more pain and lessons than one can shake a stick at and boy it was a very hard role to let go even with all the pain it brought with it. My ego liked to be seen and stroked as a hero. To this day I have to stay on top of this aspect of my ego in order to stay balanced and yet at the same time stand up for what I believe is right. Free Energy is right!!

My point in sharing some personal insight is that one's clarity about self and their intentions is often masked in behavior that really feeds the ego and IMHO going within to a deeper level is important to becoming more sentient with each evolving day of our souls journey here with our beautiful "Mother Earth".

April is just about over already. Some say time is speeding up and I think there is much to be said about this theory as it seems the days are flying by. Poor old spring up here in NE Saskatchewan just can't seem to catch up as the temperatures have not really warmed to have much budding at all either. Although my bedding plants sitting in the south exposure are sure enjoying the warmth that does come through the window as there little heads are peeking through the soil. Funny the small things that can give one joy. :)

Get good rest everyone as our energies are needed now more than ever! Blessings my Bothers and Sisters <3 <3

Wade Frazier
22nd April 2012, 03:04
Hi Sandy:

FE is the ultimate hero bait, and the hero’s journey to FE makes more martyrs than any other route:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#hero

The perils of the Messiah Complex are very real in this arena, especially when it is such an archetype in the West, with the story of Jesus that everybody gets to hear from a young age. The magnitude of FE also can seduce people with delusions of grandeur:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

We all get humbled on the FE path, in many ways. Prison, bankruptcy, being attacked by friends, family, and “allies,” and so on – these are the perils of the FE journey, and yes, wanting to be a hero can be a major pitfall. The “heroes” of FE that I knew were all reluctant heroes. Mr. Professor and I sure did not want to sacrifice our lives to spring Dennis from jail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

but when virtually nobody will stand up for what is right, the few who do become “heroes.” Noam Chomsky said that the reason for his indefatigable efforts over the years is so that he can look himself in the eye while shaving. Ralph McGehee’s “heroism” was largely to try to make amends for what he participated in, and to help prevent it from happening again:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#saigon

I can only imagine how he feels as he watches the hydrocarbon-control genocides in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past ten years.

That is a big subject, heroism and our egos.

Best,

Wade

Ol' Roy
22nd April 2012, 03:37
DEAR WADE, i HERE QHt your saying about the new gretest invietor. ou so patiently steered me away from them.

I'm not qualified to be on your circle of level 12. But I am willing and able to get there. Please tell me what I need to do

Looking forward to your energy essay for the last 6 to 8 months. No snags I hope! I would humbly like to be invited to you new forum. I promise no BS.
O'Roy
May you find eough time in you day to work, sleep, find happiness with you family, and play
!

Ilie Pandia
22nd April 2012, 07:18
Ol' Roy,

If I may, I think I can reply to your post.

The essay on Wade's website that really got me thinking about FE in a new way, the abundance way, is this one: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

In that essay you will also find Developing a Comprehensive, Abundance-Based Perspective (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing).

So start with that essay and see where it leads you :)

Good luck!

eaglespirit
22nd April 2012, 12:02
Hi Sandy, Thank You for Sharing!
We are headed into Creating Our Dreams as Reality moreso than ever...
Dream and Live Abundance, Your Own Way, and The Way of the Dream Will Become a New Higher Reality!
Love! Love! Love!

Wade Frazier
22nd April 2012, 14:53
Hi Ol’ Roy:

The Level 12 choir is for those who can sing the abundance song. Anybody can listen. Ilie has been singing, especially on this thread that he began:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

and others have been singing on this thread:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth

If you can do that, you can come to try outs. But being in the choir is going to be hard work. It is not some lounge where we can all just bask in the glow. The choir is going to make the glow. I hope that it can make some harmonic effects. I have stated plenty that Ilie was the first person I encountered at Avalon who learned to sing, and he did it very quickly.

That essay that Ilie referred you to is the one that brought Brian O back into my life after a few years where we had no contact, in the aftermath of the sour ends of our NEM involvement.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem

It was one of Brian’s favorite essays, and as I look back at it from several years later, it holds up fairly well, IMO, to how I would say it today. What Ilie did after reading it was ask me if he could translate it into Romanian, which he subsequently did. That is the kind of gumption that I am looking for. After some early exchanges where Ilie was feeling around a little in the lower levels, he got the Level 12 idea and has been singing ever since. He would get ahold of the books I would refer to and read them. And when he was finished, he would have keenly insightful things to say about them. That is exactly what I am looking for. Some people actually go to James’s Ranch to see for themselves:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

and they don’t walk away disappointed (eaglespirit knows James). Those are the kinds of behaviors that will get people to Level 12. Another Avalonian read my site for months before contacting me, after Brian O directed him toward my site. He has a biologist’s background and is pursuing some of the avenues that people like Béchamp, Rife and Naessens have blazed.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

There is some gumption. When I see people do that, they have my ear, and I will go out of my way to help them. That is the kind of activity that I envision for people who are going to comprise the choir. The have initiative, they are “intelligent,” but most importantly, their hearts are in the right place. I also feel an enormous sense of responsibility that I don’t get them in trouble. Even though they have not been through the meat grinder, they understand the perils, if only by seeing what I went through. They are not playing the gung ho game, the kind that is life-risking behavior in this field. And I am not going to ask any more of them than that they learn to sing the abundance song. I get contacted privately periodically by some pretty impressive people who are lurking in the shadows. They may join the choir, and they may not.

The songs won’t be some New Age pabulum like The Secret, however:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

They will be more like Bucky Fuller’s tune:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

My goal is to help people think comprehensively, in a nuts-and-bolts way, about the world, and when they do, the energy issue comes front and center. These writings are previews of my upcoming essay’s theme:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

It certainly won’t be for everybody, but for the people who want to join the choir, it will form part of the hymnal.

Nobody writes like I do, but there is certainly room for others to take these ideas further and sing higher notes. I believe that Ilie someday will. He is a young man with many years ahead of him. My goal is to help train people to sing better than I do. If enough people learn to sing the song, it may be the catalyst toward making a world manifest that looks something like this:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

Listening to the choir is going to be fun for many people. It will be like a drink of cold water for those who wander the deserts of humanity’s denial and indifference (and all the branch-hacking that goes on in these realms). People don’t need to feel that they all need to join, as if it is some exclusive club. The Level 12 choir is about those who can hit the notes. Almost nobody on Earth can today, partly because they have never heard the song and there is no hymnal. I am trying to help rectify that situation.

Godzilla is listening right now, and he may move to intervene, but people just singing is going to be hard to stop. That is partly why it will be invitation-only, why people will use real names and faces, why it will be available to the world. It needs to be transparent, and it needs to demand the best in all of us. There are days when I don’t feel like singing. We all have those days. But we need to keep practicing, even on those days when we would rather be doing something else. All mastery happens that way. It requires self-discipline.

Gotta run.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
23rd April 2012, 04:45
Hi:

Quickly, before I go to bed and begin a very long week, the simple way to say it is that I am trying to build a choir, not an army, and am looking for singers, not soldiers. I have soldiered in the FE field, and had the bullets fly over my head, took some flesh wounds, and carted off corpses. I don’t want to do that anymore, and I am not asking anybody else to. Those who want to go to battle are advised to go see Dennis and the other warriors (he is about the only one that I respect in the field). I am playing a different game anymore, although the goal is still the same.

The Bible portrays music crumbling walls. Can we sing away the barriers to FE? Maybe not, but maybe we can soften those walls if enough of us hit the right notes, and help make the job easier for those who are laying their lives on the line. The technology issue is really only about 5-10% of the FE conundrum, but it can take a long time to begin to understand that one. Brian O began to understand that late in his life, which is one reason why we worked together.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
25th April 2012, 03:48
With FE we can go up and enjoy the view:

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Wade Frazier
25th April 2012, 15:41
Hi:

I have a few minutes sandwiched between 14-hour days at the office. A lot of my research for my upcoming essay is about pre-industrial civilizations. I state plenty how energy scarcity shapes our existences, but it was far more severe in pre-industrial civilizations that had access to far less energy than industrialized ones:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

They lived constantly at the mercy of the weather and its effect on their food supply. Drought, flood, too cold, too hot, these all meant hunger for the populace, except for the few elites. Energy scarcity deeply influenced all political, economic and social systems. If you told them that the energy issue equaled hunger, they would all know exactly what you meant. In the current industrialized societies, the energy availability makes the connection between energy and the structure of our civilizations obscure to most, because even the poorest Americans are fat.

Running off the work now.

Best,

Wade

mab777
25th April 2012, 18:58
hi Wade,

great job !!! thank you

Marcelo.

Limor Wolf
25th April 2012, 19:31
Hi,

Our modern society has all the conveniences to live in comfort and the American poors are fat, but, this double edge sword is harmful to us and to our home planet, and it is also limited.
Pre-industrial civilizations were subjected to the mercy of nature and could probably not even dream than on the possibility of using electricity and cars on a daily basis. maybe with this scarcity pardigm in the first place, we could not have developed any other way, and, of course, another factor is the third hand stirring the pot.

Free energy is yet to be a new development in the known history of planet earth. In many ways, the need will be to re-invent ourself from the beginning, to get ourselves an 'upgrade', so that the scarcity mind perception will diminish and will be replaced by the indestructible energy of the universe, and It all lead to this one direction: The expansion of awarness and consciousness.

Maybe after our 'industrial era' we will go through the 'chaos before revival' period, just as is recounted in the delightful movie - 'The green beautiful' (between 1:11:35 and 1:12:35), where we will ditch everything which is harmful to the health of men, animals and plants.
(Amen ~)

It also reminds me the description of planet earth, in that same movie, when they were looking for volunteers to come and assist earth ,take a look: between 05:40 - 10:00 :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Y85-rexgk&feature=player_embedded


Funny, sad and true

David Hughes
26th April 2012, 03:56
Hey,

From my notes........

'Using data obtained from the Hubble telescope, we have learned that the Universe is expanding and galaxies are moving away from each other. This then led to the understanding that the Universe had been born in a Big Bang around 13.7 billion years ago. Although still only a theory, there is little doubt among physicists that the Universe as we know it emerged from this event. What formed the first generation of stars was a mixture of roughly 75% Hydrogen and 25% Helium, with only a tiny amount of other light elements such as Deuterium and Lithium. All the other elements such as Carbon and Oxygen did not yet exist.

Stardust is crucial to the existence of complex molecules in the Universe. Without it, life would not exist. Our Milky Way is packed with the raw materials needed for life and they have come into being from the processes of star birth and star death. Tiny grains of solid material expelled from stars as when a red giant sheds its outer layers, or in a nova or supernova explosion, provide both the sites where interstellar chemistry can occur, and the seeds that carry the resulting complex molecules from one part of the galaxy to another. Every single atom of all the elements in our bodies (with the exception of Hydrogen) has been manufactured inside stars.

Matter is made up of elements of which there are 98 that occur naturally. Each element is made from a single kind of atom. These atoms can combine with one another to form molecules such as water (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2). Our bodies are made up on average of around 65% water. Of the remaining 35%, half that mass is Carbon, a quarter is Oxygen and 10% is Nitrogen. Carbon is readily available and its chemical bonding ability make it a vital component of life. Although the small amounts of other elements such as Potassium and Calcium etc are essential for the processes of life, we are basically made out of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen (CHON).

Proteins are essential molecules needed for cells to function. They provide both the structure of the cell and its machinery. Proteins are instrumental in almost everything that organisms do. They are involved in many different processes including chemical reactions, structure, storage, transport, movement and defense. There are more than 50,000 different varieties of protein in our bodies and ‘CHON’ is right at the heart of their structure. Proteins are made of long chains of sub-units called amino acids. There are just 20 amino acids that are used as the components of all proteins by all living things on earth. All the proteins in all life as we know it are made out of the same 20 amino acids, just as all the words written in the English language are made out of the same 26 letters of the alphabet. DNA molecules are made almost entirely out of CHON, and the four bases (Adenine, Thymine, Guanine, Cytosine) contain nothing else.

Entropy measures the amount of disorder in physical systems. High entropy is high disorder, which means that many rearrangements of the ingredients making up a system go unnoticed. Low entropy is high order. Physical systems with many constituents have a natural evolution towards high entropy as it can be achieved in many more ways than order can. A physical system going from higher to lower entropy happens very rarely. High entropy states are the norm. A human being or any form of life, is a physical system of astoundingly high order.

As mentioned above, the conditions in the Universe shortly after the Big Bang were an almost uniform hot gas made up of around 75% hydrogen, 25% helium and just a small amount of deuterium and lithium. This was an extremely highly ordered state which seems to be the source of the order we currently see today. Gravity caused this primordial gas to clump which ultimately led to the formation of stars, galaxies and planets. Our low entropy sun has allowed low entropy life forms to evolve.

At present we have no idea what happened immediately before the big bang. The theory says nothing about time zero itself. As we get closer to time zero, the entire universe is compressed to a size that is less than a hundredth of a billionth of a billionth of the size of a single atom. Atoms actually comprise of 99.99999% ‘empty’ space and in turn the Universe is 99.99999% ‘empty’ space. This space has been termed the vacuum (space empty of matter). Quantum mechanical studies show us that two objects can be separated by a huge amount of space but not have a fully independent existence of one another. Even an enormous amount of space between objects does not weaken their quantum mechanical interdependence.

The central nucleus of an atom is composed of protons and neutrons which are themselves made up of three particles. These three particles are called quarks and each particle is proposed to be a tiny, vibrating filament of energy called a string. When we reach the theoretical Planck length (the size of strings themselves), this is where the journey into the microscopic ends. The Planck length (1.616×10(−33) cm) is the smallest meaningful measure of length in the electromagnetic spectrum. Calculations based on how many of these tiny lengths can fit into 1cm3 of space give us a figure of 10(93) gm/cm3. How dense is this? If we took all the stars and matter in our known Universe and could compact it into a space measuring 1cm3, we get a figure of 10(55) gm/cm3. So the vacuum is essentially infinitely dense. It has infinite mass (energy). It is this energy that is being tapped into to power ‘Zero Point’ or ‘Free Energy’ technology. It can provide us with all the energy we could ever need:

(http://www.cheniere.org/references/energydensityofvacuum.htm)

Matter is the result of the division of the structure of space itself. We interact with this structure every second of every day. We and all matter are bathing in this unlimited energy. The vacuum connects us all and we get back what we feed it. We reap what we sow. One person alone has their work cut out trying to alter our consensus reality on this planet, but if enough of us practice heart centered sentience, the harmonic effects can move mountains. If we feed the vacuum evil, hate, fear, greed and all the rest, we end up with a reality and a planet exactly like the one we have. It's no accident that things are the way they are.

The technology to tap into the infinite source of ‘FE’ exists and has existed for decades. It can transform every aspect of our lives on this planet. Fossil fuels are a poor man’s power source. They are highly restrictive and damaging to the biosphere, and simple serve to prolong the scarcity game. The planet can be healed by using this technology. FE produces no harmful pollution. The whole planet can have access to abundantly pure air and water. We can make deserts lush and green again if we so wish. FE technology can be used to desalinate seawater which can be channeled to wherever it is needed. With more trees and vegetation we can live in a more stable and comfortable climate year round. We can also heal the ozone layer using FE. We can feed, cloth and house every person on the planet. If we demonstrate our ability to use FE responsibly we can perhaps even begin to explore our galaxy and the ones beyond. There really isn’t much that we can’t do.

Limor Wolf
26th April 2012, 08:58
Hi David, That was very interesting. the combination of 'Matter' and its interaction with its environment seems to be the key to transformation, as long as it is understood by us.

Bruce Lipton, scientist and spiritualist, did his biology graduate work on the clonning of stem cells, he was doing this research in 1967 and teaching Medical students. He was giving them the conventional story out of the text book - genes control life , what is called the 'genetic determinism' , the belief that genes control your traits, your behaviour, your physical characteristic, etc.

And what his research revealed was very profound: he put one stem cell in a petri dish all by itself, and it would devide every 10 to 12 hours, so it would be 2, 8, 16 cells, 32 cells, after about two weeks he had thousands of cells in his petri dish, the unique thing was - they were all genetically identical. But, than he did an experiment, which was to take some cells out off the petri dish and put them into a separate dish with a different environment, when he did that, the cells formed muscle, and than he would go back to the original petri dish, took some more cells out and put them in another environment, and they formed bone, and than took some more cells and put them in a third different environment, and they formed fat cells. he explained how he was confronted with this reality:
All of the cells were genetically identical, but they had a different fate. the simple question is - what controls the fate of cells? and the answer is - The environment.

"If we take the dish with plastic petri dish with cells in it, and will remove it from the healthy environment to a less than healthy environment, the cells get sick. And if I were a doctor of cells I might say - what kind of drug would I give these cells ? and it turns out - No, you dont give these cells any drugs, you just take the dish from the bad environment, put it back into a good environment, and the cells will innately, naturally come back to health again."

He added:

"The new science 'Epigenetic control', reveals how your response to the environment... as you change your response to the environment, you change the fate of yourself. that makes you a Master."

Ilie Pandia
26th April 2012, 09:36
Not so long ago I did a course called "The Science of personal Energy". It was the "self help" kind of course, but the reason I bring this up now is because the author of that course argued successfully that all we really require is energy.

Most people think to be true, that all they need is money - lots and lots of money, but if you break down your activities from waking up, until going back to sleep, and even sleeping, all you actually need is energy! You need energy to move your body, to go out and play, to do some creative work or thinking, and when you are sleeping, your liver requires a lot of energy to detoxify your body.

One can argue, that in our world you can use money to buy energy, but it is energy that you actually use, not the money.

So give me free energy and I'll never ask for any money... ever :)!

Ernie Nemeth
26th April 2012, 09:51
Hi Tyler,
Nice sumation, thanks.
To me this speaks of an entirely other aspect than the one you describe. It is this: the scientific establishment and the theories they have bandied about are drastically incomplete and full of contradictions. Yet we all seem to believe them. We are told 75% hydrogen and 25% helium existed at the advent of the big bang, yes? But our most advanced theories say that 96% or so of our universe today is composed of "dark" energy and matter - an exotic and unknown type of energy and matter, that is. So you see the descrepency? In fact, according to these modern theories, the universe began with 75% of 4% or ... 3% hydrogen and a trace amount of helium. And if that is the case then the entire cosmology as taught to the average citizen is completely - wrong! If that is true then the rest of your article must by necessity be completely off the mark too.
Sorry, hope I did not burst your bubble - just ignore my comments. I'm prolly off my rocker...

David Hughes
26th April 2012, 10:12
Hi Limor,

Thanks for posting the link to that movie. I just read there that it was actually banned in the EU! :)

I heard about Bruce Lipton for the first time a couple of months ago. I watched his "The Biology of Perception" and the "Where Mind and Matter Meet" lectures that
he has given and I was very impressed. Here's a couple of short paragraphs I have from my notes about Epigenetics:

'Our DNA, made up of around 23,000 protein coding genes, contains the genetic instructions necessary for the development and functioning of a human being. DNA is found within the nucleus of our cells and it is the epigenetic switches and markers that lie along the length of its double helix that help instruct each different cell which genes should be expressed and silenced. Humans have over 200 different types of cells. A liver cell contains the same genes as a lung cell but each cell knows to code only those proteins needed for its own specific functioning.

The conventional view of DNA is that it carries all our heritable information and that nothing we do in our life-times changes this. Epigenetics adds a new layer to genes which goes beyond the DNA and proposes that everything we experience can affect which of our genes will be expressed and passed on to future generations. Experiments show us that the epigenome is sensitive to environmental cues which can affect our bodies and brains for life. In addition to this, recent experiments have shown that these environmental epigenetic signals can be passed on from generation to generation without a gene sequence ever being changed.

In simple terms this means that what we do in our life-times can have an effect on the health and behaviour of not only our children but our great-grandchildren. What you eat, how you feel, what you inhale and even what you see can all directly affect your future offspring. The idea that inheritance isn’t just about which genes we inherit but whether they are switched on or not is a whole new frontier in our understanding of genetics, biology and life as a whole.'

Here's the link to his 'Where Mind and Matter Meet' lecture:

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David Hughes
26th April 2012, 11:17
My disdain for money grows by the day Ilie. We are bathing in FE, have the technology to extract it as a power source and to allow us to grow a free and abundant food supply for the planet, and here we are handing over money for it all?!

I completely agree Ernie. I studied mainstream science for about a decade looking for answers and came up well short. I use the numbers and theories above purely to start from a reference point (the big bang) that most people are familiar with. A lot of what they teach at Uni's and print in textbooks is out of date and obsolete information. As you know, people like Tesla and Lamarck were written out of the Physics and Biology textbooks long ago.

Wade Frazier
26th April 2012, 15:21
Hi all:

I am working mind-boggling hours at the moment, but this morning I have a few minutes. I have known some scientific and technical minds who are on the leading edge. The greatest ones all admit that we barely know anything. Einstein reveled in humanity’s ignorance of how the universe operated. Hubble himself theorized that the red shift, which the Big Bang pretty much hangs its hat on, was due to light getting “tired” as it passed through space, losing energy. That, not the Doppler shift, may be responsible for the red shift, which would then collapse the Big Bang theory. There are many alternative cosmologies out there, and admin Paul made me aware of Paul LaViolette’s, which also argues for a “steady state” universe.

But there are many anomalies closer to home that upend the orthodox theories. At the biological level, I am not sure that I know of one more spectacular than the findings of the microscopes of Rife and Naessens:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

Light field microscopes are limited by the wavelength of visible light, so cannot get more than about a 4,000 angstrom resolution. Naessens’s scope gets a 140 angstrom resolution. How is that possible? Nobody really knows, but it points to serious flaws in the theory of light, but those scopes have been ignored when not being attacked by orthodoxy for nearly a hundred years. Crazy. Even crazier is that those scopes show dynamics at the subcellular level that upend orthodox microbiology. Different theories of life come from those scopes. So, the microbiological establishment is threatened by the mere existence of those scopes, but more importantly, the different understanding of subcellular dynamics that those scopes afford led to novel and harmless cancer cures. Their findings threatened the cancer racket, which is the primary reason why Naessens and Rife had such rough rides.

What my friend saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

turns the physics texts into cave drawings. But while Godzilla and friends keep all of that under wraps, the world’s scientists don’t have to have their foundational theories challenged, and they can keep living in a delusional state. On the FE front, scientists are the most incorrigible Level 3s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

because they think that they really know something. The consciousness-denying dogma of mainstream science is perhaps its most blinding assumption. A lot of what scientists do I have a great deal of respect for, but on the really important stuff, their minds are being kept like butterflies in a jar by Godzilla and friends. Fuller remarked on it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive

as have others. There are many myths about science.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#myths

Yes, Ilie, let us have FE, and they can keep their money. :)

Gotta run, but I’ll have a little time to write this weekend.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
27th April 2012, 05:09
I did a search on Bruce Lipton and found this brilliant interview. If you have a spare 50 minutes its well worth a watch. Topics he discusses include nutrition, living in harmony with the environment, epigenetics, healing and the placebo effect, consensus reality, consciousness and reality and our power as creators, reprogramming our subconscious mind, loving gaia, quantum physics and realigning with spiritual reality. Enjoy:

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Wade Frazier
27th April 2012, 13:28
Hi Tyler:

The Big Bang theory is not obsolete; it is just a theory, just like all the other theories. As Einstein said, every theory is eventually killed by a fact. LaViolette’s subquantum kinetics is only a theory, too (the book of that name lays out his theories). He claims that a great deal of cosmological evidence supports his theory over the orthodox ones. But the best test of any theory is not to find evidence that supports it, but to find evidence that contradicts it, called falsifying. There is a whole body of theory called the “Electric universe” theory that says that electricity is far more important in celestial mechanics than is generally recognized. I have been on the fringes of that one since looking into the Velikovsky issue nearly twenty years ago. But, there is plenty of data that seems to falsify the Electric Universe theory.

That other book of LaViolette’s that you cite is a good one to see the history of electrogravity research and how it all went black in the 1950s. What my friend saw was probably a spin-off of some of that above-top-secret stuff:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

This much I know…

1. The orthodox theories are often propped up by establishment gangsterism, such as Rife’s fate.

2. UFOs are real, and the USA’s military tried to kill Brian O over the issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

and his health never recovered from it and it shortened his life;

3. Many cancer treatments that are safe, effective and cheap have been outlawed in the USA, in the Land of the Free:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#free

What all of those treatments have in common is that they abandoned the disastrous “attack the tumor” philosophy that guides orthodox cancer “therapy.”

4. The energy industry is the province of gangsters. If you try to bring truly disruptive energy technology to the marketplace, in the USA at least, expect to be handed your head:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

5. There are plenty of the incompetent, deluded, and charlatans on the fringes of science and other disciplines:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#intro

But that does not mean that that is all that is happening in the world of alternatives. Some of it is rock solid and explores in directions that are truly Earth and humanity-saving, such as free energy, cancer and other health cures, and the Real McCoys in those fields have had a very rough time of it. Godzilla is real, and he does not hesitate to take out pesky aspirants, and his bag of tricks is huge and often subtle, so subtle that the targets of Godzilla’s antics often do not even know that they were targeted and taken out.

The orthodox presumptions are often Big Lies, and it goes far beyond science.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms

But that does not mean that lens flares from SOHO are evidence of star gates in the sun, or that the moon landings were faked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

and many of the other topics that you see bandied about at Avalon and in other fringe forums. There is a mountain of chaff for every kernel of wheat, and I can see why many sincere orthodox practitioners can feel justified in dismissing the fringes with a wave of the hand. The fringes are fringes for a reason. But that is also where “wackos” like the Wright brothers came from:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright

and an obscure clerk in the Swiss patent office named Albert Einstein. That orthodoxy banished the inventor of the electric technology that powers the world today to the fringes is a key indicator of how legit the establishment can be.

It is all a minefield, and not stuff for superficial study. But, “there is gold in them thar hills,” if people are willing to dig deeply and diligently enough. Free energy is in that mine, as is anti-gravity and a host of technologies that can transform the human journey into something that looks like Star Trek. But we don’t get any for now, as Godzilla sits on the mine and there are also velociraptors and T-Rexes along the way that feast on the sheeple and unwary aspirants.

Gotta run.

Best,

Wade

wynderer
27th April 2012, 13:44
bump -- it's good to know you are on this planet, Wade, doing such real & good work to bring a new age rather than the nwo into being -- carry on the Good Fight!

wynderer


Hi Tyler:

This Big Bang theory is not obsolete; it is just a theory, just like all the other theories. As Einstein said, every theory is eventually killed by a fact. LaViolette’s subquantum kinetics is only a theory, too (the book of that name lays out his theories). He claims that a great deal of cosmological evidence supports his theory over the orthodox ones. But the best test of any theory is to not to find evidence that supports it, but to find evidence that contradicts it, called falsifying. There is a whole body of theory called the “Electric universe” theory that says that electricity is far more important in celestial mechanics than is generally recognized. I have been on the fringes of that one since looking into the Velikovsky issue nearly twenty years ago. But, there is plenty of data that seems to falsify the Electric Universe theory.

That other book of LaViolette’s that you cite is a good one to see the history of electrogravity research and how it all went black in the 1950s. What my friend saw was probably a spin-off of some of that above-top-secret stuff:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

This much I know…

1. The orthodox theories are often propped up by establishment gangsterism, such as Rife’s fate.

2. UFOs are real, and the USA’s military tried to kill Brian O over the issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

and his health never recovered from it and it shortened his life;

3. Many cancer treatments that are safe, effective and cheap have been outlawed in the USA, in the Land of the Free:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#free

What all of those treatments have in common is that they abandoned the disastrous “attack the tumor” philosophy that guides orthodox cancer “therapy.”

4. The energy industry is the province of gangsters. If you try to bring truly disruptive energy technology to the marketplace, in the USA at least, expect to be handed your head:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

5. There are plenty of the incompetent, deluded, and charlatans on the fringes of science and other disciplines:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#intro

But that does not mean that that is all that is happening in the world of alternatives. Some of it is rock solid and explores in directions that are truly Earth and humanity-saving, such as free energy, cancer and other health cures, and the Real McCoys in those fields have had a very rough time of it. Godzilla is real, and he does not hesitate to take out pesky aspirants, and his bag of tricks is huge and often subtle, so subtle that the targets of Godzilla’s antics often do not even know that they were targeted and taken out.

The orthodox presumptions are often Big Lies, and it goes far beyond science.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#paradigms

But that does not mean that lens flares from SOHO are evidence of star gates in the sun, or that the moon landings were faked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

and many of the other topics that you see bandied about at Avalon and in other fringe forums. There is a mountain of chaff for every kernel of wheat, and I can see why many sincere orthodox practitioners can feel justified in dismissing the fringes with a wave of the hand. The fringes are fringes for a reason. But that is also where “wackos” like the Wright brothers came from:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright

and an obscure clerk in the Swiss patent office named Albert Einstein. That orthodoxy banished the inventor of the electric technology that powers the world today to the fringes is a key indicator of how legit the establishment can be.

It is all a minefield, and not stuff for superficial study. But, “there is gold in them thar hills,” if people are willing to dig deeply and diligently enough. Free energy is in that mine, as is anti-gravity and a host of technologies that can transform the human journey into something that looks like Star Trek. But we don’t get any for now, as Godzilla sits on the mine and there are also velociraptors and T-Rexes along the way that feast on the sheeple and unwary aspirants.

Gotta run.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
27th April 2012, 14:58
Thanks Tyler and Limor for the Bruce Lipton and the movie 'the green beautiful links. Will get to them over the weekend. I have read much of what Bruce Lipton has written - also enjoyed and recommend "The Field" by Lynne McTaggart.

Bruce Lipton addresses the assumed helplessness we had been taught, that mostly we are born to some kind of doom because of our genes.

Candace Pert (http://www.angelfire.com/hi/TheSeer/Pert.html) I believe is part of this group of thinkers...pioneering the understanding of our connectedness, between mind and body, how it works and can be seen.

My journey with this topic began with Barbara Hoberman Levine's book "Your Body Believes Every Word You Say", which I read in the mid 90's. She introduced me to Candace Pert. Some years later I was given a signed copy of Bruce Lipton's "The Biology of Belief" by a friend who met him on the speakers circuit before he was well known.

It is this mode of thinking that perpetuates the optimism for the human race's survival and intelligent evolution. 'FE 4 Us' will be a welcome signal that we have awoken, recognized, and manifested love and healing for ourselves and the planet. And will enable us to re-connect with our family in the galaxy in a spirit of cooperation not competition.

Tyler/Ernie, I recall in HS being unimpressed by the theories in Physics class. My thinking was this is a "wait and see" line of activity. The theories had been around way too long as theories and 'that's all there is?' I dropped science to move on to something useful despite my teachers' concern at wasting my perceived academic talent on the arts.

I've watched for decades, looking for signs that we would get off the treadmill of scientific and medical "progress", swallowing zillions of the available dollars in circulation. It is a huge relief to see Wade's information and the responses and contributions to it, on this thread. :)

Wade Frazier
28th April 2012, 14:40
Hi:

The busiest six months in the past several years of my day job are finally coming to an end. I am not quite there yet, but I think I am finished with working until midnight for a few months.

I moved, and I now get a good hour a day of quality reading in on the bus. No complaints. I think I’ll get that energy essay finished this year. As I have written before, the thrust of my essay is energy and the human journey. Even though Richard Heinberg is an incorrigible Level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

there was an exercise in his The Party’s Over that I highly recommend to people who are just beginning to think about the energy issue. He asked his readers in the industrialized world to just sit, anywhere, take a good look around themselves, and think about how energy shapes every aspect of their lives. The energy that comes from fossil fuels makes the industrialized world possible. While that is a good exercise, it should be taken much further, and what I have been doing for about 25 years is thinking about how FE would change all of those aspects of our lives that energy shapes today, for even while the industrialized world is comparatively abundant to pre-industrial civilizations:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

it is still energy scarce, compared to an FE economy. The exercise that I will ask my readers to perform will be different than Heinberg’s, and it won’t be just about the nuts-and-bolts of human civilization, although that will be a major thrust of my essay. The exercise that I will be asking my readers to perform will be to think about how all aspects of our economic, social and political lives have been shaped by energy scarcity, and how FE could transform them. It is a subtler exercise than what Heinberg advocated. I have been writing on this subject for some time, such as how all of today’s dominant ideologies are based on scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

How would abundance transform the way that we think about the world? Ilie began a thread to explore just that issue:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

and it may be the most important thread on the Internet. We are not going to get FE just by thinking about it (unless you are a Level 19 :) ), but we aren’t going to climb that mountain for the view from the top if we don’t even know that the mountain exists.

This is my original contribution to the FE issue that I have been writing about for a long time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm

so I may sound like a broken record at times, but so far, I have found vanishingly few people who understand. I seek to find more, and help people get there, which I call Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

People don’t have to risk their lives to think in Level 12 terms. I am sure that I am working off karma from my days with Dennis and earlier by trying to get people to raise their eyes beyond inventor-itis, sneak-past Godzilla fantasies (we never had them, but what we did encouraged others to do so, inadvertently on our part, but we own a piece of it) and those many other unproductive FE notions that lie below Level 12.

Late in his life, Brian O began to understand that the barriers to FE were not really technical; they were social and political. I draw a larger picture in my work, and say it is an economic/social/political/spiritual issue. If you come at the issue as a tinkerer who just can’t keep his hands still, or a Young Warrior who just has to go get the bad guys, or you think that the Great Herd can be stampeded toward FE, you are in for a rude awakening, and in this field, the wake-up call can be life-threatening.

Paradoxically, while I may seem to be asking little from my readers, I am actually asking them to do something that almost no human has ever been able to accomplish: think in terms of abundance in a world of scarcity. That is no easy trick, and I have almost never found anybody who can do it. They get all spun up in scarcity-based concepts, and think that that is what I am referring to, such as “sustainable,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#sustainable

or they think that I am arguing for the Pollyanna world of Julian Simon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm

and the exuberant, magical “cornucopian” paradigm:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

or that I am some kind of conspiracist.

That is not what I mean, and I get to work on my patience issues when people constantly miss my meaning. :) Understanding abundance when humanity has been hooked on scarcity for the entirety of the human journey is no easy trick.

I have mentioned all of the anthropology that I have been reading in preparation for writing that essay. Pre-industrialized civilizations, all of them, were at the mercy of the weather. They all had their various ways of adapting to their environments, but energy scarcity defined their existences in ways that are not obvious at first, but when you begin to think in terms of energy, the dynamics can become pretty clear. It really is little different when thinking of our so-called “advanced” civilizations. The world that fossil fuels makes possible is in many ways infinitely better than living in the pre-industrial world. Life was nasty, brutal and short back in the good old days. I am finishing Brian Fagan’s The Great Warming, which deals with the world’s civilizations and how they reacted to the Medieval Warm Period (it is his second book on that period, and he has a book on the Little Ice Age, the “Long Summer” of our past 12,000 years of interglacial warmth, and similar works). Europe was about the only place on Earth that really benefitted from the Medieval Warm Period (about 800-1300 AD), and the Polynesians took advantage of the sustained disruption in the Trade Winds to settle Hawaii, New Zealand and Easter Island. But for an English farmer of those good old days of the Medieval Warm Period, life expectancy was about 24 years, and that is even throwing out infant mortality. The examinations of their skeletons reveal bodies broken by their hard labors in the fields. The awesome demands on their bodies extracted many other tolls, and the economic/political/social order reflected it. Those days are long gone in the industrialized world, but go to a Third World shanty town today and see what life without energy does to people. If everybody had access to abundant energy, the world could look something like this in short order:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

and a little further down the line, it can look like this:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

But we aren’t going to get there while we are dragging around our scarcity-based baggage, and perhaps the primary thrust of my work is to help people realize that it is baggage. While those beliefs and systems of thinking may seem comforting in a world of scarcity, it is trapping our minds and hearts into a vicious circle of scarcity-based thinking and feeling that literally is preventing that world of abundance from manifesting. And I am not really referring to the mystical aspect of that situation, although it is certainly real, if greatly abused by New Agers and others. I am referring to the nuts-and-bolts, practical aspects of the issue, such as what forever free and abundant water, heat, live food, almost instant transportation to anywhere on our planet or solar system and the like can do to our lives; and not just food in the belly and how much effort humans will need to expend to achieve it (almost none at all), but how it can transform how we think about our world, ourselves and each other. That is the magic that I hope to help conjure, but I can’t do it alone. Only a few at Avalon seem to understand what I am getting at, but it is a start. When I get that essay written, I am going to be raising my game, and requiring it of those who are going to form the Level 12 choir. It will be hard work, but it should also be fun.

While the worst is over for now at my day job, I will have to put in a long day at the office tomorrow. I also will be working in earnest on that essay soon, so I will likely be relatively quiet at Avalon while I am working on it, but I plan to put pieces of it and themes from it on this thread as I work away.

Enjoy the spring,

Wade

P.S. Thanks for the kind words in some of the recent posts. They really are helpful.

sandy
28th April 2012, 17:36
Hi Wade,

Thank you for the great post and the most poignant point IMHO is this:

"But we aren’t going to get there while we are dragging around our scarcity-based baggage, and perhaps the primary thrust of my work is to help people realize that it is baggage. While those beliefs and systems of thinking may seem comforting in a world of scarcity, it is trapping our minds and hearts into a vicious circle of scarcity-based thinking and feeling that literally is preventing that world of abundance from manifesting. And I am not really referring to the mystical aspect of that situation, although it is certainly real, if greatly abused by New Agers and others. I am referring to the nuts-and-bolts, practical aspects of the issue, such as what forever free and abundant water, heat, live food, almost instant transportation to anywhere on our planet or solar system and the like can do to our lives; and not just food in the belly and how much effort humans will need to expend to achieve it (almost none at all), but how it can transform how we think about our world, ourselves and each other."

As times get tougher and the scarcity paradigm gets more indelible to the human psyche I believe we will need to access the courage to address our baggage first and foremost as this is where our scarcity belief systems reside. One has to believe in self first in order to believe in the whole and believing in the whole then creates a belief in the reality of FE and an abundance paradigm.

Thus what I'm trying to say is One has to not only be able to visually create it but must also be able to FEEL it! Singing with feeling creates such a frequency that all those who are listening cannot help but Hear it and begin to Believe!!

Glad to hear you do not have to work till midnight anymore with your vocation, but Oh....... what an agenda awaits you daily. :wizard:

Thanks for all the great post everyone and hope spring has sprung for all those still waiting in the northern climes :p

David Hughes
29th April 2012, 07:53
Hey,

Last year I went to small island in the Philippines called Bantayan, and lived with a Filipina family for a couple of weeks. On the boat over to the island I was sitting beside a Filipino man and we got chatting. He told me his wife had a room for rent at their place, and I agreed to check it out not having anywhere else pre-booked. We were picked up at the port by one of his sons who operated a 3 wheeled pedal taxi service. He told me that he was on his way back from the mainland on business, and mentioned that he was a carpenter, plumber, electrician, and engineer all rolled in to one. There was no point specializing in one discipline as we do in the ‘West’ because he would lose out on jobs that other multi skilled guys on the island could perform. He could only afford to make the trip to the mainland twice a year because it was too expensive.

Their home basically consisted of a number of tiny rooms constructed with cheap wood, thatched walls, chipboard, and corrugated aluminium roofing sheets. They rented the rooms out to other locals. This room was right below mine and was home to a family of 4 measuring about 8’ x 10’. The guy on the right was 64 and was fixing the leaking roof.....

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Everyone in these rooms slept on wooden boards. There was no mattress or pillows in any of these rooms. There was no light bulb in the room because the bulb and paying for electricity were luxuries that this family couldn’t afford. I was more fortunate. My room had a thin slab of sponge as a mattress, a pillow, and a working light bulb. I was even provided with a roll of toilet paper. The father of the family renting the room in the photo above made a living by wandering around the island all day selling mango's and/or wedges of pineapple. He told me he worked 12 hour days, and that this was normal practice for men on the island. The adjacent neighboring room was slightly bigger and home to a family of 6.

The mother of the family that rented out the rooms and oversaw everything, prepared my food every day. They struggled to get their heads around the fact I only ate fruit, veg and the odd piece of fish despite having enough money to eat whatever I pleased. Rice, fish, chicken and veg were the staples of their diet. Food was cooked by burning wood and coconut husks. The evening meal was cooked every day just after sunset, and by the time it was ready darkness had fallen. This was the one time in the day when the light bulb around the communal table where the food was shared and eaten was used. To wash, the family had access to a small well in the center of the property. A 10ltr plastic bucket was lowered down into it and hauled up whenever water was needed.

I learned that life was much the same for the other 150,000 or so locals on the island. Everyone was just about getting by and staying alive. Some were fortunate enough to have a car or motorbike, a small refrigerator or fan in their homes. Some could afford to treat themselves to a beer, eat a pizza or drink a coke. For most, the only hope of a better life was by "fearing God", leading as honest and virtuous a life as they could in the hope of a better after-life. There was about a hundred foreigners on the island, predominantly men aged between 50-70 from North America and Europe, mainly there for the cheap sex and alcohol, and to take advantage of the relatively cheap cost of living while enjoying the beaches and sunshine.

I’ve been to many 3rd world countries and the living conditions in these countries from Guatemala to Indonesia to Peru to the Philippines are the same the world over. According to this article, at least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10/day. If FE is made available then 3rd world countries will ultimately become obsolete:

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

Carmody
29th April 2012, 08:33
Hi Limor,

Thanks for posting the link to that movie. I had 4 hours free at work this afternoon so I watched it on the 60" TV in the english classroom I teach in - best movie i've seen in a long time :)
I just read there that it was actually banned in the EU! Insane.

I heard about Bruce Lipton for the first time a couple of months ago. I watched his "The Biology of Perception" and "Where Mind and Matter Meet" lectures he has given and was very impressed - he hits the nail on the head for me. Oh how I wish i'd been lectured by people like Bruce when I studied Biology at Uni. Here's a couple of short paragraphs I have from my notes about Epigenetics. I must update them and add in some of Bruce's wisdom.

'Our DNA, made up of around 23,000 protein coding genes, contains the genetic instructions necessary for the development and functioning of a human being. DNA is found within the nucleus of our cells and it is the epigenetic switches and markers that lie along the length of its double helix that help instruct each different cell which genes should be expressed and silenced. Humans have over 200 different types of cells. A liver cell contains the same genes as a lung cell but each cell knows to code only those proteins needed for its own specific functioning.

The conventional view of DNA is that it carries all our heritable information and that nothing we do in our life-times changes this. Epigenetics adds a new layer to genes which goes beyond the DNA and proposes that everything we experience can affect which of our genes will be expressed and passed on to future generations. Experiments show us that the epigenome is sensitive to environmental cues which can affect our bodies and brains for life. In addition to this, recent experiments have shown that these environmental epigenetic signals can be passed on from generation to generation without a gene sequence ever being changed.

In simple terms this means that what we do in our life-times can have an effect on the health and behaviour of not only our children but our great-grandchildren. What you eat, how you feel, what you inhale and even what you see can all directly affect your future offspring. The idea that inheritance isn’t just about which genes we inherit but whether they are switched on or not is a whole new frontier in our understanding of genetics, biology and life as a whole.'

Here's the link to his 'Where Mind and Matter Meet' lecture.

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I've always considered this aspect as the descriptor of how a book, over time...like the bible, or the Koran, or the Talmud......can write a people.

Wade Frazier
29th April 2012, 18:46
Hi:

Sandy, my dear, you are definitely emotionally centered in this lifetime, or maybe even higher emotional:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#overleaves

I have been told that I am emotionally centered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

and I’ll buy that. The emotional journey is not an easy one by any means. When people understand the song, in all of its stanzas (and even add their own), yes, they will be singing from the heart. But almost nobody really knows the song right now. I am trying to help teach it.

Hi David:

Yes, the lives of the world’s poor will be the most dramatically impacted by FE, and you are unusual for even thinking in this way. Almost all people in the industrialized world are preoccupied with their precarious economic situations, and frankly don’t care about the world’s poor. Heck, in the USA, the leading Republican candidate for the American presidency baldly admits that he really does not care much about the poor. He is concerned about the USA’s rapidly shrinking middle class, at least in his rhetoric. In reality, blue blood former corporate raiders don’t give a damn about any group other than their rich patrons/buddies.

I understand Sunfeather’s part of The 70% Plan, where FE should go to the poor nations, first. That is going to be difficult, for a few reasons. It is kind of like the advice when you get on airplanes, that if the oxygen masks come down, put yours on first, and then help the children. I would like to think that the world’s rich nations would make it a high priority to help transform the poor nations with FE, but it is hard to be optimistic as an American, as we have inflicted energy-control genocides onto Iraq and Afghanistan:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

https://sites.google.com/site/iraqiholocaustiraqigenocide/polya-gideon

https://sites.google.com/site/afghanholocaustafghangenocide/polya-gideon-afghan-holocaust-afghan-genocide

I think that about 99% of humanity’s eyes are not going to open to what FE can mean until FE is delivered to their homes, like Machiavelli said:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

That is a key part of the conundrum.

Not only will the world’s poor quickly become not-so-poor, even rich by today’s standards, but people will begin to understand what abundance means. It will be the end of the zero-sum-game assumption that underlies almost all human interaction today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#intro

That will likely be the most mind-boggling upshot of FE to the masses. The foundational assumption of all of their social interactions will evaporate. I think it will be fun to lose it, but there is so much fear in the world that people are really going to have to see it and live it before they really believe it. That is partly why I know that I am seeking needles in haystacks. Singing the abundance song, to help abundance manifest, before it is evident to our eyes and lives, is something that almost nobody has proven willing or capable of doing. That eight thousand that Braden mentioned is about the number that I arrived at independently. That is only about 0.0001% of the global population, so I really am not asking for that much, but I am asking for a lot from those eight thousand - that they actually begin to think in terms of abundance and how we can get there, before somebody delivers it to their homes.

I have to work today, so this may be my last post this weekend.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
30th April 2012, 01:36
Hi,

Our modern society has all the conveniences to live in comfort and the American poors are fat, but, this double edge sword is harmful to us and to our home planet, and it is also limited.
Pre-industrial civilizations were subjected to the mercy of nature and could probably not even dream than on the possibility of using electricity and cars on a daily basis. maybe with this scarcity pardigm in the first place, we could not have developed any other way, and, of course, another factor is the third hand stirring the pot.

Free energy is yet to be a new development in the known history of planet earth. In many ways, the need will be to re-invent ourself from the beginning, to get ourselves an 'upgrade', so that the scarcity mind perception will diminish and will be replaced by the indestructible energy of the universe, and It all lead to this one direction: The expansion of awarness and consciousness.

Maybe after our 'industrial era' we will go through the 'chaos before revival' period, just as is recounted in the delightful movie - 'The green beautiful' (between 1:11:35 and 1:12:35), where we will ditch everything which is harmful to the health of men, animals and plants.
(Amen ~)

It also reminds me the description of planet earth, in that same movie, when they were looking for volunteers to come and assist earth ,take a look: between 05:40 - 10:00 :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Y85-rexgk&feature=player_embedded


Funny, sad and true

Limor, thanks, I saw it today. Incredible film!

Wade Frazier
30th April 2012, 05:21
Mixing it up over here at the moment:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010&viewfull=1#post478010

David Hughes
1st May 2012, 01:57
Hey Wade,

It would be nice if the nations responsible for so much of the worlds plundering, like America and the European nations, were the ones to release FE technology and start by way of apology by helping to introduce it to the 3rd world nations first. Let the 1st world enjoy their mock abundance a little while longer as they see what FE and abundance are really all about, from the comfort of their armchairs. The various military's could be used to help implement the technology. Wishful thinking?

I suspect that even when many of the skeptics are handed a working device, they will still go on an all out attack, vilifying the technology in any way they can. I can already hear their sophisticated arguments about how dangerous this technology can be. Most scientists and intellectual types that I have ever encountered hate nothing more than being wrong. Their egos can’t take it. That psychological adjustment and reformatting of the Western consciousness will be quite an undertaking.

3rd world nations know all about living in scarcity in a way that most ‘westerners’ never will. As you’ve mentioned, even the poorest Americans are fat and have a roof over their heads. I’ve seen countless people in 3rd world nations live much the way stray dogs do in first world nations. Most pet dogs I know are fed better and have a much higher standard of living than many millions living in the 3rd world. It would be nice to see these people reaping the benefits of FE before any of the 1st world nations did.

Where would you start with this technology in first world countries? How would it be implemented in cities the size of LA or New York for example?

CdnSirian
1st May 2012, 03:45
"3rd world nations know all about living in true scarcity in a way that most ‘westerners’ never will. As you’ve mentioned, even the poorest Americans are fat and have a roof over their heads. I’ve seen countless people in 3rd world nations live much the way stray dogs do in first world nations. Most pet dogs I know are fed better and have a much higher standard of living than many millions living in the 3rd world. I’d much rather these people reaped the benefits of FE before 1st world nations did. "

I have seen this also, and the "catch up" offering of FE to these areas has crossed my mind as well. Yet, practically speaking, the 1st worlders could also help the 3rd worlders more if they had FE. Having FE to travel, ship nutrition and other supplies would be helpful to help them.

Sorry Tyler, you asked Wade...:)....

Wade Frazier
1st May 2012, 05:24
Hi CdnSirian. It is OK that you chimed in. :)

Big subject, David. The USA’s karma is dark and heavy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#karma

and that pretty much goes for the rest of the industrialized world. They all raped and plundered the planet. The issue of implementing FE in the poor nations is quite a problem. It is a solvable problem and a fun one to solve, IMO, but there are several dimensions to the problem. Implanting advanced technology into “primitive” civilizations creates many problems. Boeing has had those problems for many years, as their planes end up in Asia hauling chickens and cows, which create difficult issues that can really wreck a plane. If I was calling the shots, the first thing I would do would be to use FE to give everybody on Earth access to pure water, abundant food, end all combustion practices, and give everybody climate-controlled shelter. That would be just for starters, to get everybody away from the cliff’s edge. Then the poor will need to be educated so that they can run the show themselves, not have white people do it for them. I have written about some of these issues before:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#short

and have thought about it a great deal in the ten years since I wrote what I did at that link.

We are not going to turn it into Heaven on Earth overnight, but it can get there in a relative blink of the eye, it we really want to.

On that resistance from the “smart,” yes, it comes with this territory.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#rubbish

You are describing the Level3/Level5 combination, which might be the most common affliction of the “smart” when it comes to FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

They say that FE is contrary to the “laws of physics” and “impossible,” and tales of suppression are easily dismissed as “conspiracy theories,” but they often further add that even if FE was real (chortle, chortle), then it would be the worst possible thing for humanity, because it would be used to strip mine the planet or be weaponized to blow the planet up, and two seconds later, it is all dismissed in fear. Those are the kinds of crazy reactions from famous scientists that Brian O would get when he played the Paul Revere of FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

A few years later, he openly wondered if humanity was a sentient species:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

and when I heard him say that, I understood. The so-called “smart” scientists and academics are firmly planted in their comfy armchairs, smoking their pipes, and are completely useless for the FE pursuit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

If you are in the field for very long, it becomes painfully obvious.

I would write a lot more, but need to get to bed.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
1st May 2012, 05:30
Thanks for the reply.

This planet has never rolled out FE before so I don't think anyone has all the answers.

One of the first things that i'd like to see FE used for is to power technology that can desalinate sea water. This water could then be used by people living in desert and other arid parts of the world who are unable to grow their own food. Giving the hungry the means to grow their own abundant food supply would be one of the first things FE could be used for.

(edit: I was writing this comment the same time as Wade so missed his post)

Wade Frazier
1st May 2012, 15:18
Hi:

Real quickly before I go to work, my previous post was just about the "easy" stuff to get humanity from the edge of the abyss. The Heaven on Earth project comes later. Farming is an abuse of an ecosystem, commandeering it at the expense of the natural denizens for human benefit. With FE wisely implemented, those destructive practices can end, and humanity can have an ecological footprint of about zero. That is my long-term goal. We live here too, so there will be some ecosystem alteration to support human activities, but it can be done in cooperation with Earth and nature, not exploitation.

I have mentioned many times that I don’t consider Roads’s visions to be fantasy, and in this world, their relationship with nature was harmonious in ways that can boggle the mind:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

If enough people can be found whose hearts are in the right place and whose heads are screwed on properly, that world can begin to come into being in my lifetime. Without FE setting the table, however, it won’t be able to happen.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
2nd May 2012, 06:28
Hi:

I wish this post was more fictional,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=430811&viewfull=1#post430811

but this little situation played out on a mountain that I regularly hike at:

http://news.yahoo.com/glimpse-wash-bunker-candy-beans-blood-040811126.html

I finished Fagan’s The Great Warming, (I read it a few years ago for “fun,” and this time while taking notes), and am now reading Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum. What becomes very clear, when studying molecular biology, climate shifts, evolution, various chemical cycles (hydrological, carbon, nitrogen, sulfur, etc.) is how the journey of life on Earth is a story of energy-driven matter flows which involve both life forms and geophysical processes. They also influence each other. Without photosynthesis, Earth would have lost its oceans to space long ago and would look like Mars today.

Humans have dominated ecosystems like no animal before it, but virtually the entire human journey has been a story of wresting enough energy out of Earth’s energy flows (biological and abiotic) to survive, and surviving the vagaries of continually-shifting climates and other geophysical processes and events. That is such an ancient dynamic that is treated for granted, but FE could easily shift humanity completely away from being concerned with what the climate or Earth does. Indoor farms, transportation technologies that are like what we see in Star Trek, communication technologies that dwarf our seemingly high tech ways – these all make deeply-ingrained ways of behaving and thinking obsolete. That is part of what I mean by how radically different the world would be with a humanity living in abundance. There has literally never been anything like it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

Human civilization would change at such fundamental levels that it would not be recognizable to people today, much less people living five hundred years ago. It is literally hard to imagine, which is a key reason why FE has never come close to gaining the traction it needs to overcome the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia. Or, when people begin to glimpse its potential, they run out with scarcity-based approaches to the problem. That is understandable, but they have never come close to working, and that is part of the conundrum. Nobody has ever unraveled the conundrum yet, but we will see if the singing route has a prayer. :)

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
2nd May 2012, 13:31
I really enjoy reading everyone's exchange of thoughts on this thread. Wade, you are in actuality putting something new and fresh on the table, and help it get out there in an 'all inclusive' way, and it ain't scratching the tip of the iceberg yet. it also help us stretch the limits of our thinking and comprehension of what is free energy and how we can LIVE it, each with their own familiarity on the 'subject'. I must confess, I am absorbing quite a lot by only reading and processing.. and this is one of my 'self centered' reasons for reading this thread and Wade's personal experiences, conclusions and insights. I want to learn.

The first thing I would like to see when FE will be implemented (and it gradually will, or alternatively, in a boom sonic way) , is much the same as David and Wade have already expressed: First, to provide to those who are on the edge of survival, hardly hanging by their finger tips, as well as rehabilitating our planet/nature/mother earth, The oceans, plants, forests, animals, quality of oxygen, the whole ecosystems.
This in itself will boost our lives even before any other FE technology implementation which will make everything in our life so much more easier. we awe it to our sentinent planet - big time.

And nothing will be really deserved if we won't change our minds and perceptions as if nature is here to serve US, umm, we are all part of the same mega structure that is called LIFE, and with this deep understanding, not less, we will be able to continue our instructional - 'theory' lessons before our actual (collective) 'driving', and so it shall take place, according to my belief.

Thank you David for the other video's you have added of Bruce Lipton, I watched some more of it. He is a splendid speaker. The fact that we are not controlled by our genes, but we are basically controlled by our perception of the environment, and our genes are selcted and being rewritten by our belief system is quite remarkable compared to what we scientifically 'know' today. Thank you also for your interesting post on the time you spent on the Phillippine island with John and Melina, such places are struggeling to exist and make a living with minimum amenities, but as you described, they will be able to flourish and utilise their surrounding to the best available means with FE.


Cdnsirian, David and Ilie, I am glad you enjoyed the movie - "La belle verte", I did as well. I watched it a couple of years ago and could not forget about it since. It was banned from being screened within all EU (European Union) countries, can you imagaine that kind of idiotism...

Sandy, I will take this chance and say how very much I appreciate your presence in Wade's thread. It seems as if your heart is always open, I am watching and taking note on how to widen the small crack I posses wich was obtained throughout life in this human experience and especially the begginning of it in a dysfunctional family surrounding. oh, how much I would like to go home, but first the earth situation must change. it's actually a great honor to be here at this time.

Thanks again Wade, for doing what you do..


~^&*~^&*

Limor

Wade Frazier
2nd May 2012, 15:50
Thanks for being here, Limor. It is a pretty small gang for now. When I get that essay finished, we will see what will be next. FE would be something very new and unusual. So new and unusual that almost nobody can even imagine it today, and that is part of the problem and one of Godzilla’s greatest triumphs. The means used to keep the lid on it all comprises a science. Most people who Godzilla messes with do not even know that they were messed with. And when people take the friendly buyout offer, I’ll bet that most did not even know it was Godzilla removing them from the scene with the golden handcuffs:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

and when Godzilla starts playing rough, the targets suffer greatly, and many do not survive the experience, and even if they do, they cannot finger anybody, much less Godzilla, because the hit men are contract agents that cannot be traced to the high levels, such as Bill the BPA Hit Man:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

Brian O would not talk publicly about the murder attempt that he survived:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

other than some generalities, because he feared retribution. And even after people like Brian die, their families live in fear and will not go public. I have been around that playing out more than once.

And that cloak-and-dagger stuff ends up inspiring all manner of paranoid speculation amongst the conspiracists, as they jump at shadows:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010&viewfull=1#post478010

But they don’t understand how the world really works. The Global Controllers exercise their power via economic control, and they have quite a bag of tricks. We are living in an era of artificially-enforced scarcity, and it could spell our doom. The means to break free are here, but almost nobody sees the big picture and has a productive response, with most “activists” hacking at meaningless branches, or trying the same tired paths that have never worked (Levels 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11 on the FE Onion scale http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6 ).

If enough people can see the big picture and what the potential is if enough of us woke up (and it all begins in the heart), all of the big problems that humanity faces, the ones that threaten civilization and even the survival of the species, can disappear almost overnight, but not while sociopaths run the show, and they do today and have for a long time.

Keeping our eyes on the ball - FE, abundance, and a healed planet – has proven to be a trick that almost nobody can accomplish, as they get spun up in stuff that really does not matter, and can’t emotionally handle the issue.

Only the FE gang gets billion dollar offers to go away, and there is a good reason for that, and the more people who can understand how the world really works, the more can keep their eye on the ball:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

and the better chance that an effort will succeed. But it will not happen with lone ranger inventors, Young Warriors spoiling for a fight, people looking for something to “protest,” and so on. Those approaches are defeated almost effortlessly. Can Godzilla take out a stampede of sentient lambs? Will he even try? I am trying to find out.

Best,

Wade

sandy
2nd May 2012, 19:56
Thank You Limor,

What a beautiful post coming from a beautiful "Being". IMHO you heart is open much greater than a small crack!!

I love reading your posts as your all encompassing views and opinions add to David's, Ilie's, Cdn's, Eaglespirit's, etal's and of course Wades. This thread alone is the best Education out there these days thanks to all you wonderful, worldly peeps. Would have to go to special classes or schools to get this kind of education as it is all mostly compartmentalized to keep us away from putting all the puzzle pieces together.

Being Generalists or a least trying to be :) we are covering all the realms of what being human may mean>>>Mental, Physical, Emotional and Spiritual. No one realm being greater than the other but all needing to be integrated and functioning together versus denying or opposing the other.

A life long journey for sure but one so worth it. Thank the Creator literally(changes started with the 12 step program), that I opened my heart and belief systems to take a good look many years ago as had I not I would be one of those nasty people we all like to point fingers at :). Once I stopped self medicating and let reality set in as to who and what I was presenting I realized that my stark raving survival techniques were taking me no where but down. I've been climbing the "mountains" ever since and oh what a journey, the sights, the adventures, the heart stopping moments, the Love, the Joy, yes the Pain, the learning, the changes..................no wonder I came at this time in our history, who would want to miss out on partaking in a world preparing to become LOVE IN ABUNDANCE all through the implementation of FE!

It beings tears of joy to me when I envision how FE will not only free humankind of slavery but it will also release humankind to LOVE FREELY and UNCONDITIONALLY. It has to happen as IMHO this is the reason why we are here :)

P.S. Wade: Sad events in this man's life experience on earth along with his family as the fear porn is driving many to take extreme measures. Maybe it happened on your favorite Mountain Wade as a continued and supportive message that your heart energy and efforts are needed more now than ever. Much Love and Strength to you my Brother as you continue to climb :tea:

CdnSirian
3rd May 2012, 02:40
Thank You Limor,

What a beautiful post coming from a beautiful "Being". IMHO you heart is open much greater than a small crack!!

I love reading your posts as your all encompassing views and opinions add to David's, Ilie's, Cdn's, Eaglespirit's, etal's and of course Wades. This thread alone is the best Education out there these days thanks to all you wonderful, worldly peeps. Would have to go to special classes or schools to get this kind of education as it is all mostly compartmentalized to keep us away from putting all the puzzle pieces together.

Being Generalists or a least trying to be :) we are covering all the realms of what being human may mean>>>Mental, Physical, Emotional and Spiritual. No one realm being greater than the other but all needing to be integrated and functioning together versus denying or opposing the other.

A life long journey for sure but one so worth it. Thank the Creator literally(changes started with the 12 step program), that I opened my heart and belief systems to take a good look many years ago as had I not I would be one of those nasty people we all like to point fingers at :). Once I stopped self medicating and let reality set in as to who and what I was presenting I realized that my stark raving survival techniques were taking me no where but down. I've been climbing the "mountains" ever since and oh what a journey, the sights, the adventures, the heart stopping moments, the Love, the Joy, yes the Pain, the learning, the changes..................no wonder I came at this time in our history, who would want to miss out on partaking in a world preparing to become LOVE IN ABUNDANCE all through the implementation of FE!

It beings tears of joy to me when I envision how FE will not only free humankind of slavery but it will also release humankind to LOVE FREELY and UNCONDITIONALLY. It has to happen as IMHO this is the reason why we are here :)

P.S. Wade: Sad events in this man's life experience on earth along with his family as the fear porn is driving many to take extreme measures. Maybe it happened on your favorite Mountain Wade as a continued and supportive message that your heart energy and efforts are needed more now than ever. Much Love and Strength to you my Brother as you continue to climb :tea:

Sandy you are somewhat of a poet of the heart-centered expression. I am not, but I do have a different kind of poetic expression, and when I can, (soon I hope) I will share.

And I am not not intending to stray from this thread topic - it will relate, I believe. Just to say, I appreciate your expression.

Wade Frazier
3rd May 2012, 14:21
Hi Sandy The Poet: :)

Yes, there are many casualties of the paranoia, and in my gun nut nation, it plays out like that almost daily, with somebody going postal, someplace in my great nation. That one hit close to home. This past winter, there was a soldier who killed some people and then fled into Mount Rainier National Park and killed a ranger on the way in. Several years ago, a mother and daughter were murdered on a trail that I have hiked on, which was the first one that I ever heard of up here, which affected hikers. These are effects of being a violently imperial nation, I think.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
5th May 2012, 10:48
Hi there Wade, do you think The Coral Castle http://coralcastle.com/ in southeast Florida, was built by that man barely 5 feet tall and 100 lbs. harnessing some form of free energy using ley lines? I seriously doubt it's a coincidence that his chosen spot was on a major ley line intersection, part of the Bermuda Triangle. Same as many other megaliths.

I suspect that the ultimate in technology is organic in nature, and a natural by product of living here in harmony with this beautiful planet. Is it possible we're barking up the wrong tree thinking that we have to have heaps of money, complex gadgets, and years of scientific education, to access what is all around just waiting for us?

What if we don't have to get by Godzilla? What if all we really have to do is move on without him? Or, if he gets lonely, he's welcome to join us I reckon...:)

Thanks,
Fred

Wade Frazier
5th May 2012, 15:36
Hi Fred:

There has been speculation about megalithic structures the world over for thousands of years. Many pre-industrial civilizations did it, working in stone. A lot of it is very impressive. Many have invoked reasons of advanced technology for accomplishing it, as if alien technology was behind it, or some kind of esoteric technology currently lost to the modern world. There is a lot of “how did they do it?” around that stuff, but I am not so sure that we need to invoke alien technology or esoteric and secret/lost technology to account for it. The Coral Castle has similarly had that kind of speculation about it for a long time. The front gate was thought to be some advanced technology because of how it “floated,” but when it stopped working and they took it apart, it was a cleverly-applied piece of automobile technology. Whether it is the Egyptian pyramids, pre-Incan stonework, even Roman stonework, there is this marveling at how precise it had to be, with such ancient technology at their disposal. I am really beginning to wonder about all of that advanced/esoteric technology being proposed as explanations for how they did it. People can be amazingly talented and resourceful, and to say that they all had ETs help them, or some lost technology, seems to be some kind of “magical thinking” explanation that really short-changes the talent and resourcefulness that those people had. At this time, I strongly suspect that mundane explanations can account for all of those mysteries.

For many years in New Age and mystical circles, some kind of ascension has been invoked for the disappearance of the Mayans and Anasazi. As archeology, climate science and other disciplines have been interacting in multi-disciplinary fashion for the past couple of generations, new insights into the past have been coming fast and furiously. The various dating methods coming into their own (tree ring sequences, coral sequences, varves, ocean sediment cores, ice cores, radioactive isotopes), and sophisticated analysis that can tell the difference between oxygen-18 from oxygen-16, carbon-12 from carbon-13, and so on, the picture of ancient climates has been coming into view. Today, it is very clear that the disappearance of the Anasazi and Mayan civilizations coincided with droughts that lasted for many years. The generational droughts that happened a thousand years ago are beyond the comprehension of most modern peoples. Earth’s climate has been wildly variable over the eons, from deciduous forests near the North Pole to nearly the entire planet covered in ice. Humans evolved during an ice age, and advancing and retreating ice sheets reflected global climate changes, and led to the evolution of the bonobos:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

and likely our ancestors. Most of the missing link speculation is disappearing as the sparse fossil record is slowly filled in by intrepid people looking for fossils in Africa. As I write this, I am mixing it up with people who advocate faked moon landings, as they keep recycling disinformation and shabby analysis, and now I am being called names:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

I am certainly no materialist. One week in a Silva class wrecked any chance that I could become one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

The same exercise that initiated my mystical awakening initiated Brian’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote

I have performed some of the same experiments that Brian did, and achieved similar results:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#marcel

I know that free energy technology is real:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I watched an intelligently-piloted UFO light up on request:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

and saw something extraordinary every time I returned.

When I hear of Level 19s, and at least one person at Avalon may be a Level 19:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

I don’t scoff. However, I believe that about 99.999% of humanity is going to experience free energy from the technological side of the fence before they become Level 19s and ascend. The human journey has been one of learning how to manipulate our environment in the quest for energy security. It has never really been a sustainable quest, and it has certainly never been an abundant one. With free energy, it can be. I don’t regard this glimpse of a possible future to be fantasy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and neither do I consider this one to be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

but I realize that the average American is going to want to incarnate in a future Earth where George Bush the Tenth is the USA’s president, as he chases after the “terrorist” of the hour, and his imperial invasions happily end up sitting on top of vast oil deposits:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#twain

Each one of us is choosing, with our actions every day, which one of those future worlds we will incarnate into. I think that it is obvious which one I am shooting for, but I hope to live to see it heading in that direction while I am still alive, partly because I love the Earth and all of our fellow creatures.

So, I think it likely that I will be leaving Godzilla behind in future lives, and I am doing what I can to leave him behind in this one, although he stepped on me once and still pays attention to what I am doing. I wish him no harm, and one of the key learning experiences on this path is realizing how nearly all humans really worship him. Humans revere wealth and power, even when virtually nobody ever attained it through honest hard work; there was always plenty of blood on their hands. Through our everyday activities, the vast majority helps keep Godzilla on his throne. I regularly encounter people saying, “But I don’t!” as they deny their responsibility for the world they live in. I don’t deny my responsibility for the world I live in. We are all creators, in the end, and we all bear responsibility for the world we live in, even a lamb-warrior like me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility

If I can’t deny my responsibility for Godzilla’s existence, nobody else on the planet can, either. But as I repeatedly stress, he is a symptom of our malaise, not a cause. If about 0.0001% of us humans woke up just a little, Godzilla could no longer play his games. I am focusing on the waking-up part of the equation, not the Young Warrior delusions that Godzilla is going to be defeated in battle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

When Young Warriors show up with their weaponry, the only thing that you can be certain of is that when the blood starts flowing, it will be yours, not Godzilla’s. We can’t sneak past him, etc.

So, in the long way of answering your question, yes, I think that we can leave Godzilla behind, but I strongly doubt that we will do it by harnessing some esoteric technology that escapes his notice or that he is powerless to stop. The Godzilla conundrum is one the toughest nuts to crack on Earth, if not the toughest of all. I am seeing if a lamb stampede can do it, and I agree with you that focusing on Godzilla is counterproductive. I am trying to do something that is not Godzilla-centric. You ignore him at your peril, but you also do not fixate on him. If that 0.0001% woke up, it would be game over for Godzilla, but I doubt that the path is through some quasi-mystical mystery energy that built the megalithic structures and Coral Castles, not when it seems far more likely that good old human ingenuity and mundane technologies, not miraculous mystery energies, did it.

I have seen an awesome amount of time and energy wasted on “fringe science” stuff that is chaff. The entire alternative field is mostly chaff, not wheat, like with those faked moon landings speculations. There is real stuff, such as Rife’s and Naessens’s microscopes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

but very few people approach these situations as mature creators. Almost everybody approaches it like a victim, and part of the victim mentality is wanting to be rescued by the space brothers, the so-called white hats, and so on. Becoming responsible and grokking abundance in a world of scarcity, where nearly everybody thinks and acts like a victim, is no easy trick, and maybe amassing that 0.0001% is asking for too much, but I am trying. :)

I have a busy weekend ahead of me, but I might be able to make another post or two this weekend. In fact, I sat down ready to write a post on some of what I have been reading lately on how humans began affecting Earth’s climate several thousand years ago as they began deforesting the planet in earnest and began creating rice paddies in China. But your post took precedence. :) I am happy to see you back here, Fred. A lot of people come and go from Avalon and my thread, and you are welcome here.

We will see.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
6th May 2012, 18:20
Hi:

OK, here is what I was planning to write yesterday morning. I am currently reading Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum. As I mentioned earlier, the toolset that scientists are using is increasingly sophisticated, and the increasing multidisciplinary nature of their investigations is creating radical new insights into the planet’s and humanity’s past. The Mayans and Anasazi disappeared because of droughts that lasted many years. They did not ascend, and their ends were not pretty, with cannibalism marking the end of the Anasazi, and constantly-warring city-states marking the decline and fall of the Mayans.

The ability to distinguish non-radioactive isotopes in carbon (12 from 13), oxygen (16 from 18) has also yielded new insights. In the molecular chemistry in life forms, carbon 12 is preferred over carbon 13 because it is lighter, so samples of oil, sediment and from other sources that are enriched in carbon 12 are thought by scientists to be the remnants of life forms. That is one of many lines of evidence that supports the idea that the world’s hydrocarbon deposits are the remnants of life forms, not from abiotic processes that have been proposed by various scientists over the centuries, Stalinist-era Soviet scientists most prominently. But they did their work before important geological processes were understood, such as plate tectonics. There is no serious doubt among scientists today that the world’s hydrocarbon deposits are the result of geological processes working on the remnants of life forms. The conspiracy crowd is fond of saying that Peak Oil is a conspiracy foisted on the public by the oil companies. When they do that, they not only expose their scientific illiteracy, but they fail to distinguish between people getting political-economic mileage out of a situation and creating it from whole cloth. There is no greater determinant of humanity’s fate today than our rapid depletion of the fossil fuel deposits. It looms largely over humanity, and makes the USA’s genocidal invasions of hydrocarbon country in Iraq and Afghanistan very understandable, if evil.

The theory of ice ages is less than two hundred years old. As with the fossil fuel issue, new tools and interdisciplinary science is yielding new insights regularly. The sun’s energy fuels the hydrological cycle, and most water evaporation obviously happens on the surface of the oceans. Water formed by oxygen-18 is about ten percent heavier than oxygen-16, and it takes more solar energy to get an oxygen-18 water molecule to be liberated from the ocean’s surface as water vapor. Those disproportionately-represented lighter water molecules flow back to the ocean during their travels in the hydrological cycle, but during ice ages, as ice sheets form on land and deplete the oceans, that oxygen-16 gets locked up in ice sheets and the oceans become relatively enriched in oxygen-18. The tiny sea life, plankton, incorporates the oxygen into its shells in the form of calcium carbonate, and is enriched in oxygen-18 during ice ages; as their tiny bodies die and settle to the ocean floor, they form layers, and in a few choice places on the ocean floors (one place off of Venezuela is where some of the best cores have come from), scientists have cored the sediments and used their tools, and have been able to date when the ice sheets grew and shrank. There are other pieces of evidence gathered, such as ancient corals, and the picture of the ice ages continues to sharpen. As with most other areas that I have looked into, it is an energy issue. :)

The placing of the continents and the ocean’s currents create energy variations on the landmasses. The current ice age began when the isthmus between North and South America was closed by the drifting continents, and the Arctic Ocean is nearly landlocked. But the cycles that tip Earth in and out of continental ice sheets is now strongly thought to be due to the variation in Earth’s orbit and axial tilt. The eccentricity of Earth’s orbit around the sun, the tilt of its orbit, and the precession of the equinoxes are thought to be responsible for 100,000, 41,000 and 22,000 year cycles in how much of the sun’s energy reaches Earth’s surface. These patterns have now been discerned in the climactic record going back the last three million years. The ending of the last glacier interval began with the retreat of the North American ice sheet about twenty thousand years ago. According to the well-established glacial cycles, Earth should have started going back into an ice age about ten thousand years ago, and the evidence shows that it started, but about five thousand years ago the downward methane trend was mysteriously broken, and it has trended up since then. Methane is a far more powerful greenhouse gas, molecule-for-molecule, than carbon dioxide is, but there is a lot less of it. About 8,000 years ago, carbon dioxide also mysteriously broke its downward trend. Today, it is theorized that the upward carbon dioxide trend was broken as humans began deforesting the planet as they domesticated plants and animals and began clearing the land for agriculture and fires and building material. The increase in methane is now thought to have come from the rice paddies of China, as artificial swamps were created by humans to grow their rice, as well as the methane created by domesticated ruminants, and yes, people.

It looks like we would be well on our way to the next ice interval if not for human activities, and the warming is accelerating during the industrial era as humanity quickly burns up all the fossil hydrocarbon deposits. We are already halfway there for burning up the oil, and only a small fraction of humanity lives in industrialized societies. The conspiracy crowd often calls global warming a hoaxed-up conspiracy, like the moon landings and Peak Oil. There are almost no climate scientists outside of those owned by the hydrocarbon lobby that doubts that human activities are responsible for global warming. Brian O was an atmospheric scientist, and he was disgusted when one of his colleagues “sold his soul” to the hydrocarbon lobby and became about the most prominent global warming “skeptic” on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sold

To me, this is just one more chapter in how life form activities have affected Earth’s geophysical processes. A billion years of photosynthesis created the high oxygen levels in our atmosphere:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#photosynthesis

Sunlight splits water into hydrogen and oxygen, and if not for the high oxygen content in the atmosphere, Earth would have slowly lost its hydrogen to space, and our oceans would have disappeared, and Earth's surface would look something like Mars's today. The colonization of plants on the continents set the stage for everything that came after it, including humanity. That is another reason why the incredible deforestation of Earth is suicidal for our species and most other land-bound life forms. Life made Earth more life-friendly, although human activities have undoubtedly already caused the greatest mass extinction since the demise of the dinosaurs:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

and that crisis is also accelerating. If the currently trajectory is followed for much longer, humans will have ravaged Earth’s ecosystems to the point where it will take tens of millions of years for the ecosystems to recover their diversity and resilience, and that is if our semi-sentient species is no longer around to keep on exploiting Earth’s ecosystems and finite energy supplies in the quest for energy security.

For several reasons, the need for FE to break past the organized suppression and humanity’s brain-dead and heart-dead inertia is greater than ever. With FE, Earth going into ice ages would be irrelevant to human welfare. We can create perfect indoor environments anywhere in the solar system with the FE, anti-gravity, and advanced materials technologies that are currently in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard. Do we self-exterminate ourselves and take what remains of the ecosystems with us, or do 0.0001% of us wake up in time? That is what I am trying to find out. Mine is not the only game in town on the FE front, but is the only one I know of that seeks to help lay people gain a broad enough understanding so that they can keep their eye on ball and pay attention to what is important and stop focusing on what is not, like faked moon landings. :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

We live in interesting times.

Best,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2012, 18:55
Thanks Wade.
Interesting new thoughts to ponder.

Ilie Pandia
7th May 2012, 06:04
Hi Wade,

While looking at what happens with the Earth climate, to have an even more comprehensive picture I think we also need to be looking at the Sun :) (as well as other forces/energies that may affect Earths magnetic field/protection).

I am not really well prepared to have a scientific debate about it, but I think it stands to reason that humans are not the only ones to affect major changes of Earth's climate.

I don't think that the "Global warming" is a hoax, but I think that using that as an excuse to tax people more (because hey, you're the cause of it!) it's a hoax :) (or should I say scam).

And yes, with free energy, natural climate cycles (unless very dramatic) would not be a problem, and we would not need a tax for them either. But if our Sun (or the galaxy core) decide to cause big trouble, we may need to relocate.

Wade Frazier
7th May 2012, 14:05
Hi Ilie:

Yes, the sun is also a variable. As far as scientists can tell, the sun is more than 50% brighter than it used to be, and it keeps getting brighter. One day, it will make Earth uninhabitable by animals, and scientists think that day is not too far off, on the geological timescale, like less than a billion years. After Earth loses its animals, then it will lose its plants and oceans, and it will be back to single-cell life before all life is gone once again. Ward and Brownlee’s The Life and Death of Planet Earth covers that territory. Life today is carbon-starved compared to hundreds of millions of years ago, and that is seen as one of the limiting factors. In fact, you can see hydrocarbon lobby mouthpieces say how great it is that we are burning up fossil fuels and unburying all of that carbon. That is a rather interest-conflicted way of looking at it.

The sun has been pretty stable, however. It is just the right size to have a stable output over billions of years. Larger stars burn out far more quickly. That is partly why scientists think that Earth may be very unique in being able to host life as we know it. However, in digesting their theories, they admit right off, that with a sample size of one, there is one heck of a lot of speculation in their theories. They are all just theories, and each one will die with a new fact. :) However, I respect the process in its ideal, but its ideal is almost never seen in the real world, especially where political-economic interests are at stake, as they are with FE. Not too many political-economic interests are at stake with piecing together the past of Earth’s climate, however.

On the subject of the sun and other factors in the current ice age, the sun’s variable output has been put up as a factor in the past, as well as interstellar dust, but the data amassed lines up very well with the eccentricity and axial tilt of Earth’s orbit, and facts such as the isthmus between North and South America closing a few million years ago (the animals from North America then invaded South America, which had marsupials like Australia does). On the mystical side of the house, there has been plenty of speculation on the sun’s role in events in our past and what might happen in the future. You are aware, I am sure, that today the sun is being invoked for global warming, as the other planets seem to be heating up, too. However, the scientific community is not so sure. It is widely accepted that the lack of sunspots coincided with the heart of the Little Ice Age in the 1600s, so the sun can certainly have effects, but for the driver of the advancing and retreating ice sheets of the past three million years, it appears to pretty much be all due to what Earth is doing in its orbit and axial tilt, and its geophysical processes. Also, most of Earth’s land is in the Northern Hemisphere (the Southern Hemipshere's oceans temper the changes better than land does), and snow and ice is reflective, which creates positive feedback during cooling cycles, and its disappearance creates positive feedback as the sheets disappear. Scientists have now measured about 50 glacial cycles in the current ice age, and there is no end in sight while North and South America remain connected and the Arctic Ocean is hemmed in like it is. The estimates are currently between two and ten million years for the current ice age to continue.

But, as you know, my point is that with FE and related technologies that are under wraps, human welfare will no longer be at the mercy of what the sun and Earth do. Humanity will be able to perfect indoor environments that are fairly immune to what the sun and Earth do, and they can put them all over the solar system. For me, most important is that FE can break the paradigm of Earth-raping that is so ingrained in humanity and considered “natural.” Again, I don’t consider this world to be a fantasy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and just with what I know of that is kept under wraps, today, we could move most of the way toward that world in my lifetime, if enough of us woke up to the potential. That is what I am hoping that I help inspire. If I can help do that, it will be mission accomplished for my lifetime. What a long, strange trip it has been. :)

Running off to some long days in the office, but there will be daylight at the end of this week, and I plan to start working on that essay in earnest. Most of the mayhem seems to be behind me for now, I hope. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th May 2012, 15:09
Hi:

It is time for another choir post, and the qualities that I am looking for. I don’t look for those qualities because I like them (although I do), but because they are the ones have the best chance of working for what I have in mind, at least I think so, but time will tell. At this time, nothing less will achieve my goal. I see many posts here and elsewhere that tell me that not many yet understand what I am trying to do. I have posted the approach that I plan to try out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

and I even did an interview with Scott on it:

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?3558-Nexus-Interviews-Wade-Frazier-Free-Energy-in-3-Stages&p=24879#post24879

So, what I am about to write I hope will not be news to many, and here goes.

The qualities that I am looking for in the choir members are:

1. Their hearts will be in the right place. This quality trumps all others by a mile. Everybody whom I respected in the FE field had that in common. All the great souls that I have known and known of had that in common. The masters had it, and so on. Love is the energy of creation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

and an FE effort will not have a prayer of success unless love is front and center. Another way of saying it is that the choir members will have personal integrity. Since personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which was my journey’s primary lesson:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

I know from the start that I am looking for extremely rare people. That is why a Level 10 approach does not have a chance in today’s environment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

Not enough people care enough today. It is that simple. That lack of integrity manifests in many ways that are counterproductive to an FE pursuit in today’s world, and one of my original contributions to the field is the idea that nearly all people are addicted to scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and they refuse to let go because they don’t have sufficient personal integrity to pursue the truth. They hung their hat on ideologies that feed them, so they are permanently blinded to the truth. Their eyes will only begin to open when abundance, or at least the means to get there, becomes a daily reality for them. That is why I say that they will only begin to wake up when an FE machine is delivered to their homes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

Virtually no FE newbies like hearing it, but it is the truth. They think that they can turn their friends, family and co-workers onto FE, or reorient various protest movements in the FE direction, and so on. They have some hard lessons to learn. I have watched careers end when people tried chatting up the office on FE, and so on. The masses are not ready for talk about abundance. When it can be demonstrated, and nothing less than FE can do so, then they will begin to awaken. Those whose hearts are awake need to understand how rare they are, and not from an egocentric perspective (one of the many hazards of this path), but to just understand that people like them are not waiting on every street corner to help make FE happen. If I can help prevent people from learning that lesson the hard way, the rest of the task will be easier.

2. Their heads will be in the right place. The first quality may be obvious to many, but this second one often is not, not for what I have in mind. The heart leads, and the head follows. Those clinging to their scarcity-based ideologies do so out of fear. When love rules, a love of the truth comes with it. Here is where I may be blowing it, but time will tell. I have a heritage of writers and some highly intelligent people, some of whom were scientists and engineers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

and I have known Tesla-like minds:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and have been mentored by them. It was not until I finished the 2002 version of my site (which is the meat of my site today, and looks long in the tooth to me, but the one-year makeover of that site will have to wait, and maybe a long time, until my career is finished) that I discovered that I was a comprehensivist, with Bucky Fuller the professional grandfather I never knew I had:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

He was one of the first Western comprehensive thinkers, and if there is one description of what I am trying to help the choir attain, it is comprehensive thinking:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

I am a systems thinker:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#introduction

partly because of my training, but it also came naturally to me. It has taken me many years to finally realize how rare that talent is. To me, it is not too hard to think in systems terms, but my scientist pals tell me that not many people can really do it, especially in a creative way, and this is where I may be blowing it. I found that unless a person’s heart is in the right place, they won’t have a love of the truth and go chasing after it. But it requires some mental horsepower to handle the complexity of systems thinking. Only with a systems approach can people see the forest from the trees, be able to winnow the wheat from the chaff and see the big picture, etc. I don’t think that a person needs to have a genius-level IQ to understand. That is really the part of my experiment that may fail, in that not enough can muster the mental horsepower to achieve the level of understanding needed to see the big picture.

The essay that I am working on, and have been researching for the past several years, is intended to get the non-scientist up to speed on comprehensive thinking. Because when they do, the energy issue will be front and center. Not only will FE be seen as perhaps the only way out of the predicament that humanity finds itself in today, it is also the key to manifesting Heaven on Earth. That is also a theme that is pretty unique to my work, although it does not take that much deep thought to begin to understand the ramifications. In fact, the overwhelming implications of FE are what fry most people’s circuits. The world as we know it would end with FE, and that has deep implications, on several levels:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

I am looking for people who are brave enough to explore them. Only when enough of us can see the big picture and what the leverage points are, with our hearts in the right place, can we take any action. And if we can get to that eight thousand people or so who attain that level of awareness, will we be ready. Ilie is one of the only people to post to my threads who gets it so far. The thread he began on what becomes obsolete under an FE-based economy is the best one I ever saw:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

Watching Ilie get it tells me that what I am trying is not impossible, but I am highly aware that I am looking for needles in haystacks. Those with their hearts in the right place are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population, and the level of “intelligence” that I am looking for is also probably going to be fairly rare. For an example of the rabbit holes that the unwary can fall into, to never emerge, the moon landings come to mind:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010&viewfull=1#post478010

Discernment is critical to navigating the minefields and pitfalls, and there are many:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

3. They will be worldly.

I began my journey naively, as did everybody whom I respect in the FE and related fields:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

Naïveté is no crime, but people need to get worldly before they will be much help on the FE front. I have seen highly intelligent people in corporate America and academia who were highly naïve to the realities of pursuing such a highly disruptive technology as FE. Nothing would be as disruptive to the world’s power structure as that, which is why the Global Controllers (AKA the Big Boys, Godzilla) have thrown around hundreds of billions of dollars to keep the lid on it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

They are keenly aware that the world they rule over will end if FE gets loose, and they are watching my efforts and may move to intervene if I get much success. That is another reason why the choir will need to be worldly. The provocateurs that were sicced on our operations were good at what they did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

And killing people was part of some of their “jobs”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#new

I do not want to make the honor roll of FE activists who were targeted by murder attempts. All high level players that I am aware of have, including those playing around in seemingly innocuous puddles like the UFO issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

I am going to try to steer the choir away from those life-wrecking reefs, but only the worldly can navigate those shoals. Naïveté must be shed to get very far along the path.

4. They will be able to sing.

In the end, when enough of us learn the song, we can sing it from our hearts. But proselytizing is for baby souls:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age

This is an old soul project, and there will be singing for any who want to hear. We won’t be silent, but banging the FE tambourine on the street corner will not work. That forum that I plan to mount will be invitation-only, people will use real names and faces, it will be available to the world, and we will all need to bring our best to the game. I plan to raise my game, and will require it of the choir members. We will all be there to give, not take. I am going for quality, not quantity. If the choir starts with only one person, that is OK. It is about hitting the notes, not making noise. There are many out there who thirst for the song, and it has never been heard in chorus before. There are not many who thirst for it on a proportional basis – they are still needles in haystacks – but if the choir of thousands attracted ten times as many who grooved to the tune, making FE happen would be easy, and we are only talking about 0.001% of the global population. When seen in that light, I really am not asking for much, but I don’t kid myself that it will easy. This has been a lifetime project so far, it is not nearly finished, and the fun may be just beginning.

I’ll write more on this later, but it is time to run off to another crazy day at the office, but I only have a couple more before I take a breather from about a year-and-a-half solid of craziness. I am getting too old for this. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th May 2012, 14:47
Hi:

There is one thing that I want to make clear. The choir is not going to be some elite organization. It will be comprised of people who can hit the notes. Their purpose will be to sing a song in chorus that has never been heard before in that way. So far, the song has only been heard here and there from voices in the wilderness. The intention is to provide the song to those who can hear it, and it will be the song they have longed for. I have been getting a lot of “please pick me,” or, “I don’t think I qualify” lately. People do not need to worry about this in that way. Just bringing their awareness to this issue is plenty, believe me.

My intention is for that choir to carry the tune until humanity is able to, and humanity won’t be able to until FE is delivered to their homes. The audience will be as important as the singers, especially if they can begin to hum along, even if it is just in the shower. It is more than OK to “merely” be in the audience. Just maintaining the awareness is incredibly important. Again, it was the missing ingredient that I saw in all efforts so far. People paying attention because Dennis threatened to pull the quadrillion dollar rabbit out of his hat:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

and turning away to flip on Dancing with Stars or NASCAR when he failed (or cheered when his company was stolen http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1), is not the crowd that is going to help make FE happen. I saw those dynamics in action too many times, and slowly came to realize that those games were not going to work. When I helped Brian O, I saw other flavors of what does not work. I eventually decided that I was not going to play spear carrier any longer, although I still did it for Brian and Dennis, and still kind of do. It was time to apply what I learned to a different approach, and my site comprises the baby steps in that direction. Getting that essay done and the choir going is my great experiment, and it might be another failure, but I have to try it. If nothing else, it is going to help raise awareness, and our awareness is all that we take with us.

I am finished with playing at levels where people risk their lives, and that goes for conferences and shows. At more than one show, in the audience were people readying their search warrants:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

their sting operations:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

and so on.

Brian O survived a murder attempt the day after one conference was finished:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

and the murder of our first NEM conference speaker, a week after we lined him up:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

spooked Brian to the point where he moved to South America. I have no interest anymore in those games, or playing inventor-itis games, or raising money, and so on. I am shooting for a Level 12 attempt:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

and it will just be singing, and that may be all it ever will be. I doubt that Godzilla will get too worked up about it, and with the choir scattered across the world, how do you shut it down? So far, shutting down something for just singing is going to be a hard trick to pull off. The choir also will not be playing the senseless games that you see in typical Internet forums. It will not be victim-oriented, getting spun up in conspiracism and other unproductive avenues:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

It will be creator-oriented, love-oriented, etc. It is going to be something different, so different that not many people understand it yet. But wait and see. :)

I have to run off to work now.

Best,

Wade

kudzy
9th May 2012, 17:45
Dear Wade et al;

I've been reading your posts for over a year now, since the beginning of this thread. Since you've been sharing so much of your story with us readers I thought it would be nice to share some of my story with you.

I'm a 43 year old male, who grew up in Connecticut. I've never been married and have no children. I was raised Catholic but rejected it in my teenage years, that was the beginning of my awakening process. I have a bachelor degree in Mechanical Engineering but rest assured I'm not the inventor type. Actually, I left the engineering field early in my career to join an intentional community. I've been living here for almost 16 years.

You've helped me to see that I've been one of those 'austerity environmentalists'. However, after years of struggle and austerity I believe I've created a life of relative abundance for myself. I live in a beautiful little valley in the Southern Appalachian Mountains. I am surrounded by good hearted, well intentioned, intelligent people. I have abundant clean spring water that I tapped myself. I live in a modest little home that I built myself. My home is heated by a wood stove. I heat my water, in the winter, by a thermo-siphon off the wood stove. Otherwise, I have a three season outdoor solar shower, also a passive thermo-siphon. I use an outdoor composting toilet, which for me is a rather pleasant experience with no foul odor. I built my whole little homestead almost entirely by myself, including the access road. Also, I live off the electrical supply grid. All my electrical needs are provided by a photovoltaic solar system. Fortunately, I now have phone and internet service at my home. I've planted a number of fruit trees and perennials and I have a small organic garden.

Now, I'm imagining one might ask "so how is showering and defecating outdoors an example of abundance?". Well, the answer is time and money. By living simply, avoiding debt and taking responsibility for my own basic needs I've liberated an enormous amount of time and money. I can afford to take the day off to write this because I set my own schedule and I have very low overhead. I simply don't need or desire to make a lot of money. (BTW, none of us 'make money', the federal reserve does that. We sell our skills and labor on the open market in exchange for green paper but you already know that.) My main motivation for working is not to make money, it's to help my friends and neighbors and to help build my community. Unlike working for a corporation, the fruits of my labor go directly towards helping my community, my big extended family. People hire me on a handshake and my word, they know that if I screw up I will make it right. And I have no shortage of demand for my services. As of late, I've been designing and installing solar hot water systems, installing photovoltaic panels and building 'natural' homes and structures. It's a hard pill to swallow knowing that most of what I do would become obsolete with the advent of free energy. But I do it anyway because that's what my community needs in the present moment.

On the spiritual side; I've done numerous sweat lodges, self-guided vision quests and a ten day Vipassana Meditation course. I also spent three months in Peru studying under a traditional Ayahuascaro. http://www.yacupuma.com/juan-tangoa-paima.html
Don Juan is a most amazing and beautiful human being, a true hero in my book. I've practiced Tai Chi and Yoga, fast regularly and was a vegetarian for over ten years. I acknowledge and appreciate the traditional four elements; Earth, Air, Fire and Water. I give thanks for the embedded energy in my firewood before striking the match. I give thanks for the Sun heating Water in my solar shower. And, of course, I give thanks to the Mother Earth and Father Sun for making the whole grand play of Life possible.

On the negative side; I sometimes allow myself to become depressed, lethargic and apathetic. I have succumb to lust and addiction. I've fallen prey to scarcity mentality, victim mentality and fear. But time after time I pick myself up, gain some awareness, forget the lessons and repeat the mistakes, only to pick myself up again and push on. I've cried uncontrollably over the rape of our dear Mother Earth and her people. I've been angry at the global controllers but not anymore, my heart goes out to them….."forgive them for they know not what they've done". For me, the awakening process has been akin to Kubler-Ross' Phases of Grief. For a good laugh see how quickly Homer Simpson moved through the 5 phases. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mh8SX_sXs (sorry poor quality).

I realize that the life I've chosen is not for everyone. I also realize that even if all 7 billion of us lived the way I do it would not usher in the Golden Age that we are all hoping for. But I do realize that my life is rather unique in this 21st century USA. Do I have what it takes to be a useful contributor to your choir of ' singing lambs'? My ego likes to think so, self-doubt thinks otherwise. I believe I'm a smart enough engineer to know there's a whole lot I don't know. Is my heart in the right place? Do I have enough personal integrity? I like to think I can be a Level 12 but could I answer 'yes' to all of the qualifications you've outlined…..NO. But in my imagination I can see the beautiful vision that free energy would bring. I can see the Golden Age, the Heaven on Earth we all so desperately long for. It hurts Wade, as I'm sure you know, to be so close yet so far away from our goal. I KNOW deep in my being 'it's possible'. I don't need the demonstration.

Anecdotal information:
When I was in my late teens my uncle was into one of those Amway type pyramid schemes. Upon meeting his friend he threw out his pitch/hook line, "So do you want to make a lot of money?" "No" was my response. He equated that with lack of ambition. Fortunately I was smart enough to realize that just because I didn't want a lot of money didn't mean I have no ambition, I have plenty of ambition, as I hope this letter demonstrates.

Back in my engineering days the Vice President of Engineering pulled me aside and said verbatim "Darren, you're too nice, you'd better get mean, people are gonna walk all over you." I said to myself, "No, I need to get the hell out of this business". And I did, I moved to a place where the people honor and respect me. I have no regrets for making that decision, even though I left behind a lucrative career.

When I was in my early 20's this book almost literally fell off the shelf into my hands, it's had a huge impact on my life. http://books.google.com/books/about/The_good_life.html?id=FlgkN6tW-X4C Helen and Scott Nearing are among my list of true heros. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_and_Scott_Nearing Although, I now realize, it's impossible for all 7 billion of us humans to live as they did or that it's even desirable to live as they did. However, they certainly exemplified a high degree of personal integrity, commitment and intelligence. They were years ahead of their time.

Thank you Wade, thank you so much. Thanks for all the posts, morning and night. Thanks for attempting to warn us all of the pitfalls associated with free energy. Thank you for holding onto the vision and not giving up. I do not consider you my guru but I have a tremendous amount of respect and appreciation for you. I don't want anything from you. I only hope that when the time is right I will, in some way, help to make free energy a reality. Thanks for reading this!

In closing I'll leave you with a couple of songs from two of my favorite artists;
Michael Franti - Pray for Grace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDmdAlwv9BE
Ben Harper - Better Way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60xSdVEkWw
I hope you enjoy them.

Here to Serve
and THRIVE;
Darren Geffert

sandy
9th May 2012, 18:49
Thank you kudzy,

Thank you for sharing some of your journey. It is nice to get to know you and by the way WOW great travels you have experienced. Welcome to our Free Energy community. I look forward to your continued participation. :)

Melinda
9th May 2012, 22:55
I love the idea of a choir. It's a beautiful word. Reminds me of the scene in City of Angels, where angels gather on the beach to hear the harmonies of the sunrise. It moves them to their core. A sound that seems both vast and delicate, daily and profound.

Could I be just as happy being in the choir as being one of its applauding supporters? As long as I'm humming the same tune I feel a swell of gladness knowing we'll be united in our intention. Hearts, like guitars, can play a note that causes others to resonate at the same frequency, until every corner of the room is filled with sound. So may it be.

I'm so grateful to everyone here who is holding the vision for a brighter and healed world. I wish you continued courage on your journeys. I think this piece of writing (by Eric Pearl) that I read recently says something beautiful:

"You don't need to let go of all your fear before you are ready to experience love. You can pick up your fears in your arms and carry them into the love with you. For once you step into love, fear shows itself up for the illusion it's always been, and love is all that remains."

sandy
9th May 2012, 23:57
Welcome Wandering Ponderer,

Nice to have you join us in support of a healed earth. I couldn't agree more that our fears do turn into love when one steps through the illusions of our belief systems, accepts what is and focuses intent on abundance with the reality of FE.

Wade Frazier
10th May 2012, 13:47
Hi Darren:

Beautiful post. Well met. I am not trying to recruit you into the choir, but as somebody who has been at this for most of his life, let me say that you are closer to the goal than you may think you are. You care, and you are trying. Those are the most important qualities, with a bullet. The rest is not that important. You have made do with what you saw in front of you, and what choices you had available to you. You can’t ask for much more than that. Scarcity has been humanity’s reality since the beginning, and exploiting windfall energy opportunities until they were all used up, and it was off to the next one, has been the pattern since people learned to control fire. Well, there isn’t much more to use up, and that is not news to you. You are on the right path, but it has been costly in many ways, I don’t have to tell you. I have been made aware of many communities that are trying out a new way, but when they are performed in scarcity, it invariably comes with its hardships and distortions. It sounds like you live on what used to be Cherokee land, taken from them by violence and deceit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#cherokee

Nice land, as is where I live. We can’t all get in boats and move back to Europe where we belong, but we can do what we can to help heal the wounds.

You have seen me state it on this thread before, but one of my favorite exercises is to think about problems of design or engineering and to say to the designer, “What if energy was not a limiting factor? How would you then design it?” If they think about it deeply and long enough, their entire paradigm changes. The entire design project might even disappear, because it was all about harnessing scarce energy in the first place. Or it leaps up a few octaves into something beautiful and unrecognizable under the current paradigm; abundant energy made it possible.

I am finishing Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum, and it is a perfect example of how a lifelong scientist gets hemmed in when looking at problems through the current energy paradigm. Virtually all of the major problems that humanity faces, with their devastating environmental effects, can disappear almost overnight with FE. I have found that somebody like Ruddiman will virtually never even admit to the possibility of FE, partly because of the so-called “laws of physics,” but also because it makes all the problems that he has been grappling with for so long simply evaporate. FE can make all of the big problems that we have disappear almost immediately. When you begin to understand that, it becomes surreal that a solution that I know is here can be so pointedly ignored by almost everybody who says they are trying to do something about the problems. As one pal said, those who say they are trying to solve the problems are often the biggest obstacles to solving them.

If FE is not denied, then it gets put into false categories like “cornucopianism,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

There really are cornucopians, but their motivation is self-seeking. They plunder to no end. That is a far cry from abundance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

I was just reading an article on space cornucopians yesterday:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mining-minerals-asteroids-or-why-cornucopians-space-deliver-dangerously-misguided-message

under the greed-based capitalist model, it can turn out badly. But look at the assumptions that all sides of that argument operate from. FE is completely outside of their universe of the possible. Introduce FE, and all of their arguments and “solutions” fade away to insignificance. That is one of the mind-bogglers of the FE pursuit. It takes entire lines of theory and problem-solving and makes them all obsolete, and that is one of the reasons why FE meets the brick wall of the Level 3 crowd:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

which includes about 100% of the people at TED. FE blows the tops of their heads off. They have probably all heard of FE, but have all dismissed it and are bunkered up against it coming in and blowing over their houses of cards. You have to see it to believe it. Kind of funny, that article. Brian O was one of the first to advocate mining asteroids:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill

but he was not doing it as a cornucopian, but a Utopian. There is a big difference. One is egocentric, and the other is not. Intention is everything.

A brief aside on Don Juan. A family member spent time with Carlos C., in a family setting. He had his problems (like not being totally honest), but he was quite the story teller. I don’t know if Don Juan was real or not, but Carlos told some nice stories.

Running off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
11th May 2012, 06:25
The other day I've watched the movie The Celestine Prophecy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398842/). It's not really a mind blowing movie, especially if you been on this forum for a while but it has some interesting points about energy :)

The more "evolved" characters said that all conflict revolves around a battle for energy. There isn't enough of it and so we dominate and control each other for energy. The proposed solution is to find the "infinite source within" (that is also called love at some point).

There are some interesting dynamics in the movie, with Godzilla's minions trying to suppress this idea of infinite energy saying that: "In that world people like you and me (the GC) will not be needed anymore!". How right he was :), and so he went about protecting his niche in hell.

Some free energy talk (but not really that well thought out), you can find the recent movie The Avengers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/). Don't be tricked by the high score on IMDB, the movie is not that good, but with FE in mind there are some interesting things touched on. Of course, weaponizing that unlimited power had to be one of them :biggrin:

Whiskey_Mystic
11th May 2012, 07:47
you can find the recent movie The Avengers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/). Don't be tricked by the high score on IMDB, the movie is not that good

You are incorrect sir! I brand you a heretic! And now you must fight me. Fight me, I say!


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Wade Frazier
11th May 2012, 13:39
Hi Ilie:

Yes, when you develop an eye for it, the FE energy idea leaps out at you from many directions, but only in fantasy. :)

I was sent this this morning:

http://video.staged.com/localshops/vw_passat_785_mpg_in_the_uk

The high-MPG stuff has been around nearly a hundred years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1

but now it is getting more blatant. More leaks in the dike…

A few odds and ends…

My upcoming essay will deal at length with pre-human Earth history. Our tenure on Earth is not even a blink of the eye, on the geological time scale. You have probably all heard that if Earth’s history was reduced to a 24-hour film, all of human history would be the last tenth of a second of the movie. We have wreaked awesome havoc on Earth’s systems in our minuscule tenure, and creating Earth’s sixth mass extinction is just part of it. It is now estimated that humanity moves more of the world’s soil and rock each year than all of Earth’s geophysical processes (water, ice, wind, landslides – See Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum, p. 149) do put together. The human signature on the atmosphere is pronounced, with the burning of hydrocarbons being something like a hundred times the carbon dioxide effect that volcanoes contribute. In the 2010 edition of Ruddiman’s book, he tests his hypothesis against the recent data, and it is increasingly vindicated, in that the human impact on the carbon dioxide and methane levels is detectable for the past several thousand years, as humans began deforesting Earth, domesticating plants and animals and creating artificial swamps such as rice paddies.

But before we appeared on the scene, Earth’s history, as it has been increasingly uncovered in the past few generations, is a fascinating picture. The state of Earth that we take for granted today is far from typical. I have written before that a billion years of photosynthesis created our oxygenated atmosphere:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#photosynthesis

Before that event, Earth’s atmosphere would not have been breathable, and the oceans could not have hosted fish and other sea animals. The oceans of the pre-oxygenic days were called “anoxic,” meaning that there was no oxygen in them. Oxygen is highly reactive, so it is never found floating around by itself, except when the photosynthetic “green machine” of plant life keeps spewing it out as its primary waste product. An oxygenated atmosphere is the primary signature that scientists plan to look for in the atmosphere of planets circling distant stars, when their instruments can find such clues. Oxygen in the atmosphere is universally considered to be the result of photosynthesis. Again, with only a sample size of one, our puny conceptions today of what life must look like on other planets may be very wrong. That aside, oxygen is very reactive and is quite damaging to life forms. In a word, oxygen is highly corrosive. The oceans were filled with dissolved iron before the great oxygenation event billions of years ago. The oxygen produced by photosynthesis reacted with all of that iron in the oceans, and iron oxides precipitated out in huge iron layers on the ocean floors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banded_iron_formations

It took a nearly billion years for all of that oxygen to saturate the land masses and oceans with oxides. Then the oxygen in the atmosphere rose rather rapidly, and Earth had an atmosphere that could be breathed for the first time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn2

Also, sunlight not only evaporates water from the surface of the oceans and drives the hydrological cycle that all land-based life depends on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle

but it also splits water into its constituent elements, oxygen and hydrogen. Hydrogen is the lightest element in the universe and the most plentiful, but Earth’s gravity is not strong enough to hold atmospheric hydrogen, and it will eventually escape to space. What prevented Earth’s oceans from escaping to space was that atmospheric oxygen created by photosynthesis. The hydrogen encounters oxygen on the way to escaping the atmosphere, and turns back into water and eventually falls as rain. If not for photosynthesis, Earth would have lost its oceans to space, and would look like lifeless Mars today.

As I have stated before, the megalomaniacs who run the world from behind the scenes are actually planning to terraform Mars as I write this, as their ace-in-the-hole if/when they crash Earth’s ecosystems in their insanity that keeps potentially Earth-saving technologies such as FE under wraps. Mars is geologically dead, however. It does not have the tectonic plate activity that drives many elemental cycles on Earth and keeps Earth inhabitable, it does not have the magnetic field that protects Earth’s atmosphere from direct solar radiation (the notion that the magnetic field is necessary to protect the atmosphere has been challenged by recent data), and people in the know deride Godzilla’s grand plans as hopelessly misguided. But megalomania and a god-complex is not very rational in the first place.

From the very beginning, life on Earth had to learn to deal with oxidation. Oxidation is just the stealing of electrons by electron-hungry molecules, and oxygen is one of the greediest. But before the atmosphere was oxidized, there were other oxidizers, and life had to use anti-oxidants to protect itself. The life forms that existed before the atmosphere was oxidized are all anaerobic, meaning that their life processes did not use oxygen. Once oxygen began to fill the atmosphere, it became deadly to anaerobic organisms, and they had to retreat beneath Earth’s surface to survive, where they live today. It took hundreds of millions of years of evolution to do it, but eventually life forms learned to make use of that oxygen, and oxygenic respiration was “invented.” Oxygenic respiration generates nearly twenty times the energy that fermentation and anaerobic respiration generate, and learning how to use oxygen made complex life possible. Multicellular life forms were simply not possible with the low energy generation of fermentation and anaerobic respiration.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#aerobic

While oxygenic respiration made complex life possible, in the energy generation plants in complex cells (called eukaryotes) today, called mitochondria (which are former bacteria), eventually wear out over a lifetime, and increasingly throw off free radicals as they generate energy. It is like an old car engine polluting more as it wears out. That free radical “pollution” is largely what ages us and eventually kills all complex life forms. That is why you see all of that anti-oxidant promotion on the nutritional scene, although a great deal of it is snake oil. An antioxidant has to be targeted for the reactions it is there to prevent, and most of the antioxidants sold today, especially in the alternative health movement, are of little-to-no use for what they are advertised for. Vitamin C is one of the primary antioxidants that life forms use to protect themselves from oxidation, which is why we need it.

Decaying food (meat, particularly) is full of the free radicals (which also come from obvious stuff like smoke and alcohol) that come with the byproducts of death processes, which is partly why live food is much better for us. To a degree, we have evolved to eat cooked food (but cooking also introduces free radicals, kills enzymes, etc).

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

It is a way to pre-digest food so that we can get more energy out of it than in its raw state. You can survive by just eating bananas or avocadoes, but I would not recommend it. Most food should be eaten live, but today, humans will have a hard time eating solely raw food. That does not justify the food processing industries, however. The ideal diet is mostly raw, with maybe a third freshly cooked, but going much beyond boiling and steaming is detrimental to its nutritional value, and all of that hyper-processing by the food processing industries, as their primary focus is profits and deceiving human taste buds, is very bad news, but the food processing industries own all manner of soul-sold “scientists” who would promote cardboard as nutritious if they were paid enough:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#stare

Ruddiman’s book is a good one, and at book’s end he expressed alarm on how his findings have been used by industry-funded “think tanks” that deny global warming and other effects that humans have on Earth’s geophysical systems, especially the concentrations of greenhouse gases. He became so alarmed that he has gotten more active in countering the disinformation coming from those industry-funded “think tanks.” Climate systems are highly complex, and the scientific understanding of them is still in its infancy, but the scientific consensus is that the dynamics move at a glacial speed compared to the mayfly-like lives of us puny humans. All of the greenhouse gases that have been vented to the atmosphere by humans during the industrial age, primarily the carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels, take a relatively long time to impact the climate. The estimate today is that more than half of the greenhouse effect from all of that industrial era venting, from just what has been spewed into the air so far, has yet to manifest in global warming. It is still in the “pipeline.” Virtually all of the global warming naysayers with scientific credentials sold their souls to the hydrocarbon lobby long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#conflicts

Brian O knew one of them, and he expressed his disgust to me long ago about one of his former atmospheric science colleagues who “sold his soul” to the hydrocarbon lobby, to become one of the leading global warming naysayers.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sold

Enough said on the conflicts of interest and corruption that plague these issues. I would like to write a little note on economics. Economics is really my bag, but not the game that professional economists play. I don’t have much respect for that profession. IMO, it is a bunch of intellectual warriors who are owned by the capitalists, who try to make capitalism respectable with their intellectual summersaults. The study of economics is generally sliced into three pieces: production, exchange, and consumption. Economics, as thought of today, is about human material welfare. Production is where it all comes from, and is dependent on human intelligence, the manipulative ability that comes with having hands, and how they are used to wring energy out of the environment. The exchange aspect of economics is about who gets the benefit of economic production. Ideally, exchange is really about what is called social organization, and how to get humans focused on production. As humans domesticated plants and animals after all of the easy meat was killed off:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

the energy surplus provided by domesticating plants and animals created the possibility of not all people needing to procure the food they ate. In the hunter-gatherer phase, if you could not procure your own food, you died. There was not much of a welfare state in hunter-gather societies, and they were proportionally more violent than civilized societies, as they settled disputes with their hunting technology and killed each other. Something like a third of all males in hunter-gatherer societies die violently.

When humans began to domesticate plants and animals, they also domesticated each other. Social hierarchies developed, with the most clever, ruthless and violent becoming elites, and they set themselves up as “royalty.” In all early civilizations, the elites set themselves up as intermediaries with God, attributing to themselves divine status, to further justify their position atop the hierarchies. Anthropologists cannot find any exceptions to this situation in early civilizations. The elites had to put on a show to impress their “subjects,” so drafting the commoners into building monumental architecture, as advertisements for the elite’s divinity, is common to pretty much every early civilization that attained the level of domestication surplus to fund such activities. Again, anthropologists pretty much cannot find an exception to this dynamic.

The domestication of humans came with the beginnings of sedentary societies, which was not only about justifying elite status, but also getting everybody else to accept their status, and that included the newly-created occupation of “slave.” Slavery began with early civilization and ended with early industrialization, as rising living standards from harnessing all of that fossil fuel energy made the institution obsolete. Machines could perform the work of slaves. Women’s status universally declined with the advent of civilization, and women only became liberated with industrialization, for the same basic reason that slaves were: human effort became less of a factor in economic production. Women did not need to breed serfs, ranch hands, and slaves anymore.

During the rise of civilization, as ideological indoctrination conditioned everybody, money was invented. On one hand, it is argued that money made the exchange function easier to maintain, for those standard reasons of not having to slaughter a cow and cut it up to sell it to each “buyer” in barter transactions, so money could effectively slice a cow into many pieces while it was still alive, and sell it at some distance away from the actual cow. That is an undisputed benefit of money. However, the downsides are arguably greater, but economists ignore those effects because, I believe, that to point out such failings would simply not do. If people are focused on the trappings of the real economy and not the real economy itself, then they are less likely to figure things out on their own. Economics is like other professions that aspire to be sciences, but they really aren’t. They generate a lot of theory that cannot be falsified, which is the only true test of scientific theories. Most of what passes as economics is unnecessarily arcane concepts that really don’t have much, if anything, to do with the real world, which is why all the big name economists were blindsided by the economic meltdown of a few years ago, which was easy to see coming for those with their eyes open:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#enron

All the complex mathematical models and ideological garbage that people like Greenspan promoted left them in a fantasy world as it crumbled, and the show is not over, either, no matter how much money the Federal Reserve prints up to help its rich buddies weather the storm at the expense of the rest of us.

What I find really insidious and effective about the obsession over the exchange aspect of economics is that it is not real. Paper money and gold are not wealth, but just symbols of it. However, about the only economic talk that you see out there, and even in alternative circles, is all about money, banking, taxes, and the like. Real economics is about matter and energy, and matter is only a condensed form of energy, so the real economy is only about energy in the big picture, but all that almost everybody thinks of when they think of economics is money, banking and what the Fed is up to. In a world of abundance, and that can only happen with abundant energy (and I am talking about energy control vastly beyond what we see today,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

and FE would be clean energy also, so would not damage the environment), money, banking, taxes and the like become obsolete. As long as economic talk is about money, banking, taxes and the like, it is going nowhere fast. In a world of scarcity, the financial economy is the egocentric one, whose motto is “What is in it for me?” Under the anthropocentric economy, the motto is “What is in it for humans?” Under what I call the soul-centric economy, the motto is, “What is in it for every living thing.” The soul-centric economy is the only one really worthy of the term, “economics,” but that one is totally off the radar, in our egocentric and anthropocentric world. When we grow up spiritually, this kind of soul-centric economy beckons:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

Arguably the entire point of my work is to get people thinking along the lines of a soul-centric economy and what it would look like. It does not look anything like what humanity has ever experienced before. Humanity would begin to understand what abundance really means:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

I know that the means to get there have been around longer than I have been alive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

and that is one of the many surreal aspects of this situation. The vast majority of people are oblivious to it (Levels 0 to 3 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0), and for those who move past the early levels of denial and unawareness, they virtually all fall into the pitfalls that have swallowed all FE aspirants to date (the other levels below Level 12, and Level 13). I learned extremely hard lessons during my FE days, and one of the main reasons why I am at Avalon is to help prevent people from learning those same lessons the hard way, because it is not easy to survive those learning experiences. We are not going to get over the hump if every aspirant has to go find out the hard way.

The most incorrigible people may be inventors, largely because they invent to get rich and famous, not really to help us turn the corner, although they usually give good lip service. Next in line are businessmen trying to go the capitalistic path, which is greed-based. Godzilla closed off those avenues long ago. The only prayer that the inventor/business path has for FE success is for the inventor with the goods (extremely rare, although plenty of pretenders will tell you otherwise) open-sources it and lets a worthy group carry it forward. I have to meet the inventor with the goods willing to give it away, and I have never heard of the worthy group. The choir can be seen as a stepping stone to forming that worthy group, but the worthy group will likely not just be singers, but soldiers and other roles, but they will not be soldiers suffering from Young Warrior delusions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

They will have grown up and operate from the soul role’s positive pole, persuasion, and are no longer operating from its negative pole, coercion. Coercion is not the path to Heaven on Earth, which is my goal. For the FE project, all involved roles have to operate from their role’s positive pole, which is love:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

Anything less is not going to cut it, and is the path to catastrophe in the FE pursuit, and the mature approach is the province of older souls. The old skins are not going to hold the new wine, and all such approaches: capitalist, the secrecy game, appealing to scarcity-based ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), and so on, are based on fear. An approach based on love has never been tried before, and it will not be an easy trick, not in a world of scarcity. But, that is the fool’s errand that I am attempting, and we will see how it goes.

My work hurricane has entered what may be a brief respite, after blowing nearly continually since October of last year. I plan to make a lot of progress on that energy and humanity essay in the coming months, and will be trying hard to complete it in 2012, and I am optimistic. But people keep dumping crap into my life all along the way, which is my karma, most probably, but everybody who has walked this road gets served up the same delights. It comes with the territory, for better or worse.

We will see how this quixotic quest goes. :)

Best,

Wade

Jean-Luc
11th May 2012, 15:53
The old skins are not going to hold the new wine, and all such approaches: capitalist, the secrecy game, appealing to scarcity-based ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), and so on, are based on fear. An approach based on love has never been tried before, and it will not be an easy trick, not in a world of scarcity. But, that is the fool’s errand that I am attempting, and we will see how it goes.



Hi Wade,

There is a (small ?) possibility that the Keshe route might be a major one out of this mess and false scarcity paradigm, whoever difficult it clearly will be.

Merhan Keshe is definitely an inventor (and most probably a major discoverer - it could well that he has discovered some of THE major KEYS of the inner working principles of the Universe) with, as far as I can see, high ethical principles, and who’s turned away from the classical model of trying to get his inventions on the market for the sole purpose of making money.

However extravagant some of his claims clearly appear to be, Keshe's prime motivation today is to pass on his knowledge and know-how to a young generation of students from all over the world,
http://keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=253

whereas at the same time passing on the information, in a controlled way, to governments from all over the world (with an emphasis on poor countries) in the form of a gift to humanity for the improvement of life on every single human being on earth
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2478

Highly noble principles which obviously are coming in 100% frontal collision with the GC’s game. He’s no fool and perfectly aware of the global racket, especially after having experienced firsthand some horrendous Canadian rendition program lately (July 2010) while on a trip from Brussels to Mexico, with stopover in Toronto,
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=208&view=previous

together with other firsthand experience of corruption and the like from the Belgian authorities and interests groups, including the use of some crooks, the type of whom, Wade, you are quite familiar with (cf. Mr Texas :() http://keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=193

The sale of his plasma generator (planned to be available by end 2012) would be primarily aimed at financing the school he is planning to open in the near future.

The major obstacle clearly will be all the usual Godzilla's spins to prevent this to happen, and the first moves seem to have happened as recently as on April 23 with this Obama's decree:
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2485

Meanwhile, research into the medical field, fundamentally based on the same principle (the body is regarded as a galaxy) is continuing at high speed with many very encouraging results for all sorts of serious and debilitating neurological diseases
http://keshefoundation.com/en/applications/medical

On the forum, the 2009 Nele’s story (a 38 years young beauty who was pulled out from a very severe coma) is quite fascinating to follow.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121&view=previous

To get a better grasp on what's going on here, I would strongly recommend anyone interested to skim through this 222 pages PDF I've prepared from the keshefoundation website (with proofreading & editing). It provides an overview of all Keshe communications of his forum from 2009 through 2012
http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Overview_of_MT_Keshe_communications_posted_on_the_Keshe_Foundation_forum_10-05-2012.pdf

http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Keshe-JLG-2012-04-29'.JPG
Conference with M. Keshe, Belgium, April 29, 2012 - I was simply there to introduce him and to (try and) translate his sometimes difficult to understand English into French :)

Best,

Jean-Luc


P.S. Essential reading : His 2010 CO2 paper with amazing transformation of CO2 gas into liquid & solid CO2 at room temperature and atmospheric pressure.

http://keshefoundation.com/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf
with further comments here : http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=107&view=previous

Wade Frazier
11th May 2012, 16:47
Hi Jean-Luc:

I am going to respond to your Keshe post on the FE inventors’ thread in the next day or two:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=431665#post431665

I played the inventor game more than once, and Keshe’s approach threw up about twenty red flags from my brief review before. I’ll address some of them on that thread. Lone ranger inventors do not have prayer, and Keshe has barely gotten his feet wet. Dennis made plenty of tall claims, and they pale beside Keshe selling tickets to the moon.

Thanks,

Wade

Limor Wolf
11th May 2012, 19:43
Hello Jean-Luc,

I have managed to watch Mr Keshe's talk in Eindhoven on Youtube this week, I have noticed how by only a few signs derived from Wade's years of tremendous experience it is possible to notice some bumps in Mr Keshe's road to 'FE for all' plan. an expanded cooperation with world governments was one major sign that can be interpreted as naivety, though you can't blame him for being a naive person. It was very interesting listening to his claims and I hope his FE promises 'hold water', so to speak.
There were a couple of more signs that showed this was not what Wade is interested in. Mr Keshe's has not denied selling his inventions, However, declared that later on it will be free. an old state of mind to a new energy paradigm might not bring the results that we now know is possible to achieve.
Maybe we can talk about it in the inventors thread. I need to rush to work. How wonderful that you attended and translated in your Belgium conference, It is enviable that you have such opportunities so close to home!

An earth quake estimated at 5.5 has shook my surroundings just a couple of minutes ago

Mother earth, I love you and understand your pain, be well

p.s

Wade's long post above is a fasicanting reading and It raised a couple of thoughts and questions, I will see if I will be able to communicate them and put it in English. I will try to do this along my night shift.

~^&*~^&*

Limor

Fred Steeves
11th May 2012, 20:54
I like your choir idea Wade. If being a so called dreamer winds up being one's calling in life, then by god shoot for the stars. Maybe even a smidge beyond.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

Wade Frazier
12th May 2012, 02:36
Hi:

Briefly, there have been about 30 or 40 inventor-itis posts on this thread so far, asking about this and that inventor, and if he “has it!” Inventors are a tiny part of the issue, and this obsession with them is really counterproductive, IMO, especially for what I am trying to do. Forty years ago, I thought they were some key component of the problem, but that was really a misdirection. The scientifically illiterate and those who have never tried to bring disruptive technology to market often think that inventors are some key part of the FE problem. Well, they aren’t, not really. At least 50,000 inventors along the FE and related technology lines have been taken out over the years by organized suppression. The good stuff you rarely hear about, as it is taken out of circulation almost immediately.

I have not seen anything different among the Keshes, Rossis, etc., etc., to get me too excited about their prospects. They have not even made it to the big time yet, when Godzilla begins to really get active. They are at or a little past the tinkerer stage, and have no idea what they are up against. I really don’t like watching naïve inventors sally forth, thinking that they have the magic answer. The answers have existed longer than I have been alive, but it is all underground, in the above-top-secret world, which the Keshes and Rossis of the world appear to be completely oblivious to. FE technology has been getting suppressed since Tesla. The honor roll is long and grim (Moray, Gray, Trombly, Sweet, etc., etc., etc.), but every inventor that comes along is either entirely unaware of how the land really lies, or has some charmingly naïve and egocentric rationale of why his effort will be the one to succeed. I really don’t want to watch anymore. Although I have made several posts on how my thinking evolved over the years on this issue, it looks like I will need to do it again.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
12th May 2012, 04:30
Hi,

The idea of a choir frightens me a bit, it has its association of a group that needs to be fitting in every aspect, in order to create a harmonious tone. not much of an individuality and a personal self expression there. But that's my own fears rasing to the surface, and I know thats not at all the intention of Wade's future discussion group.


Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "I have found that somebody like Ruddiman will virtually never even admit to the possibility of FE, partly because of the so-called “laws of physics,” but also because it makes all the problems that he has been grappling with for so long simply evaporate."


Also:


"Introduce FE, and all of their arguments and “solutions” fade away to insignificance. That is one of the mind-bogglers of the FE pursuit. It takes entire lines of theory and problem-solving and makes them all obsolete, and that is one of the reasons why FE meets the brick wall of the Level 3 crowd"

Would you say that there is some kind of a psychological stumbling-block for scientists/researchers that invested great part of their life in studying a specific problem, to accept any other proven solution which will bound them to consider a different persective from what they did till that point, even if that will bring the desired solution? In other words, would they prefer to not even consider new paradigms if it will hint that they did it all 'wrong' all these years? (I guess thats a little bit of a generalizing question)



Originally posted by Wade : "It is now estimated that humanity moves more of the world’s soil and rock each year than all of Earth’s geophysical processes (water, ice, wind, landslides – See Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum, p. 149) do put together"

And they say that Man can not beat nature.. well, in our destructive ways, unfortunetly,we do. and with a total different set of purposes..

By what you are describing, Wade, planet earth was not an inhabitable place for life as we know it today when it was formed, it took billions of years of a 'masterpeace process' to allow life to develop. That embodies such an inteligence wich is well beyond our grasp, and it feels like a proof in itself to the existance of some sort of a deity. that's incredible.

In the 'convoluted universe' series of books by Dolores Cannon it is described (via her client's hypnosis sessions) that planets (earth included) develop in a gradual way, after the oceans are created, they need to cool off, as well as the ground in order to have fish, plants and other life forms to appear. I think it also mentioned the photosynthesis process, if I remember correct.

From the Book:(on another planet which is not earth)

"Dolores: Is is a new planet?

N: Yes, it's just forming.

Dolores: It doesn't have any plants or life on it at all?

N: No. It only has the heat that's being cooled and the dark obsidian that's been cooled from the mist.

...The ball of light comes and then becomes hotter, and then the hotter becomes hotter. it becomes fire. Around the fire formes molecules of matter that go together and form the black obsidian. Black obsidian forms around the fire. The fire stays inside and continues building the planet, but it has to have the mist to cool the matter so the matter forms solid matter.

Dolores: Where did the ball of light originally came from?

N: Source. source sends out the ball of light.

The ball of light generates the heat and the molecules on it's own and then the different energies come to form around what's needed, according to what is planned for the planet. after the planet is cooled down other formations will occur. (like water)

Dolores: Habitable planets must have water,Isn't that true?

N: Some planets do, some planets don't.

Dolores: So, water is not always necessary for the formation of life

N: No

Dolores: Some places live on other things?

N: Yes, that is correct. many varieties. "

if we are meant to believe that, than it supports Wade's, ruddiman's and maybe other scientists assumptions of earth history prior to the human part of it, but it also explains why it might be a little inaccurate of us earthlings to assume that water is always a sign of life.. :) and probably the same can be said of Oxygen, I don't know, I am no scientist.



Originally posted by Wade: " Mars is geologically dead, however. It does not have the tectonic plate activity that drives many elemental cycles on Earth and keeps Earth inhabitable, it does not have the magnetic field that protects Earth’s atmosphere from direct solar radiation (the notion that the magnetic field is necessary to protect the atmosphere has been challenged by recent data), and people in the know deride Godzilla’s grand plans as hopelessly misguided"


If Godzila has technologies that are far beyond what the 'white science' has, maybe they know something about Mars that the popular sciense don't ? it is difficult to believe that with their cleverness (and not much wisdom whatsoever ) they will invest in the wrong so called 'stock'. unfortunetly they probably 'desrve' more credit than that, if not, than our situation is not at all bad. need say no more

I wonder, if in a world operated by FE, where the percentage of contamination in air, food and water will be almost non existant, will the free radicals will be very greatly reduced? and will that impact the human life span? I am sorry if this sounds like an ignoramus question, but It just thoughts popping in my mind..


Economy -


Originally posted by Wade : "...as ideological indoctrination conditioned everybody, money was invented. On one hand, it is argued that money made the exchange function easier to maintain..."


Then, maybe money is not really the problem, the problem might be that the system is taking an interest on loans and such, which is not equal to a barter .. (taking interest was utterly prohibited in the Hammurabi's laws, and in the biblical version it was not allowed to loan with an interest to the poor), and as Wade wrote, it is done at the expense of the rest of us.

In a world of vast abundance, energy is the real economy. It is very much the same now. But we have a limited awarness of it, and our future life will be consciously based on it, it will be our own productive creation.

Abundance can not be used to the favour of any one individual , but in a much more social and collective attitude where one is for all and all is for one, I think that's what Wade means by 'soul-centric' economy.

Don quixote was considered to be a man who pursued pipe dreams, but I have read somewhere that the initial literary work by Cervantes was called: " The smart Knight - Don Quixote"

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283010_242521279110843_189936067702698_862905_5970421_a.jpg

,so you did not totally lose your chance, Wade ;)

Have an enjoyable rest of the day!

~^&*~^&*

Limor


P.s- Kudzy (Darren), I appreciate your post, It was beautiful and an interesting read.
A wondering ponderer - I feel the same as you about supporting the choir, it resonates with me. not everyone are lead singers. Welcome to Avalon

Ilie, I have read the 'Celestine prophecy' and its sequal, 'the tenth insight', as well as the guides, and it all seems very percise to me. an inspiration of a book, it really made sense.some great insights. I am yet to read the third book in the triology - 'The secret of shambhala'

Melinda
12th May 2012, 21:44
Hi,The idea of a choir frightens me a bit, it has its association of a group that needs to be fitting in every aspect, in order to create a harmonious tone. not much of an individuality and a personal self expression there. But that's my own fears rasing to the surface, and I know thats not at all the intention of Wade's future discussion group...

...P.s- Kudzy (Darren), I appreciate your post, It was beautiful and an interesting read.
A wondering ponderer - I feel the same as you about supporting the choir, it resonates with me. not everyone are lead singers. Welcome to Avalon

Thank you Limor, for your thoughtful posts and for the welcome. I second your feelings about Darren's post. It's a privilege to read writing that lets you into someone's world that way. When I read his post, it transported me. Thank you Darren.

To Limor... Re: The Choir... I kind of feel like it's already happening. Perhaps that makes me a bit like a kid who gets given a gift-wrapped present, but gets so excited about the wrapping paper they exhaust all their 'thank yous' and forget to open the box. (i.e. I don't get the point yet.) I'm only at page 12 of this thread (although I've been reading the recent updates) and I've found people's contributions so engaging that at this stage, if someone said "Lets have a choir, with elephants, coloured ribbons and a giant hot air balloon," I'd probably say "Excellent idea people - let's do it !!" The way I see the choir idea it doesn't matter if everyone's vision is slightly different. It's almost as if the choir will be more multidimensional than a regular choir - as if the notes on the 'sheet music' will change in front of each individual according to the individuality they project, but the shared abundance-based vision will create this astonishing piece of music. Like when you see an amazing set of Jazz musicians improvise together - they're coming from different places with different ideas, but somehow they intuitively create a piece of music that not only makes sense, but takes on an energy bigger and brighter than the sum of its parts.

I'm just excited that there's going to be a choir at all. If I'm not in it, I definitely want a ticket ;)

Thanks again for the post.

Wade Frazier
12th May 2012, 22:53
Hi:

OK. Here is why I do not focus on inventors for the FE issue. Nearly forty years ago, when I first got my dreams of changing the energy industry:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

I had not heard of Nikola Tesla:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla

but I had heard plenty about how inventors got ripped off from Mr. Mentor. Virtually no inventor ever got rich by inventing. The inventors behind the breakthrough technologies have almost never been rewarded for their inventions. They even teach that in technology development classes today. I knew all about that when I was a teenager. Sears was notorious for meeting with inventors and acting like they were interested, and then they would copy and steal it. One of their victims sued, and received a $100 million settlement or so, for the invention that keeps the socket securely fastened on socket wrenches. While Mr. Mentor was inventing the circuits that charge batteries (stolen by an aerospace firm), or inventing a bomb that did not hurt people while destroying weaponry:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_edn1

his innovations were often too earth-shaking. After he retired, he tried to invent small, and came up with this invention:

http://www.ezrollercleaner.com/

You will see many variations of them today, but he invented the first one back in the 1980s and got an audience with a magnate to demonstrate it. Naturally, they queered the deal and then made their own, and Mr. Mentor once again had his invention stolen. All of his inventions were either stolen or suppressed. That is standard operating procedure in American capitalism. Watching that happen so many times had an impact on me. When I was working in hell in LA:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

not only was I in a hellish environment, but I was in a profession that I really questioned its societal benefit (it was worthless, as I later discovered http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing), but what was really nagging me was the thought of when I was going to do something important with my life and chase those energy dreams from my teenage years. You all know what happened next:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

All I can say is be careful what you wish for. :)

I bowled over the man who interviewed me, and there were no other contenders for the job after my interview. He later engineered the theft of Dennis’s Seattle company, using the very transaction that he was hired to properly execute to instead use it to steal the company from his boss. I began waking up quickly during those days.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

But I was thrust into the world of disruptive energy technology, inventors, factories and the like. I became buddies with Dennis’s lead inventor in Seattle. He worked for GM, unknowingly playing invention-thief for GM for several years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor

While he was at GM in the 1950s, one of their 70 MPG trucks accidentally got into a showroom and was driven home by a customer, which embarrassed GM. The 100 MPG carburetor is nearly a hundred years old, and many, many inventors have made high-mileage carburetors, and they have all been bought out or suppressed, for a suppression ratio of 100%:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1

I ran into a bunch of those from the first-hand participants over the years. And high MPG carburetors are the small stuff. Godzilla rarely stoops to that level; the car and oil companies can take care of it themselves. That is partly why I say that Godzilla is far from the only predator in the jungle.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#godzilla

As I hung out with Mr. Inventor and saw his life’s work get taken from him when Dennis’s Seattle company was destroyed and stolen, he once told me that inventors never supported each other, but inventors’ organizations were always about the inventors vying with each other to become the Alpha Inventor who would commandeer the organization to support his invention at the expense of all others.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor1

In looking back, that was when the bloom began to come off the rose for me and inventors. When Mr. Inventor tried to extort $250K from us in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#extortion

after we tried to help him, the bloom really began to come off the rose with me and inventors.

Victor Fischer began to make self-serving plays as the sledgehammer came down in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#fischer

and it got so bad that Dennis paid him to stay away from our Ventura facility. Even the machinist was trying to play Alpha Dog, even though he was only the machinist. In the end, they all acted dishonorably, especially when the going got hard. Mr. Professor and I were the only two people from the inner circle who did not betray or abandon Dennis, and we miraculously busted him out of jail, although it cost us our lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

I was young enough to survive the experience, but Mr. Professor was not:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

and that will haunt me the rest of my life. During those days, not only did I see all of those inventors, engineers and scientists acting dishonorably, I also was amazed at how naïve they were. When I heard that Mr. Engineer and Mr. Researcher were going to go work for Mr. Texas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient3

I could not believe it at first. Mr. Engineer and I had already seen those maneuvers more than once, and you could almost smell the sulfur wafting off of Mr. Texas as he made his play, and the pointy tail was sticking out of his pants. But Mr. Engineer acted like a five-year-old being offered candy from a stranger, and he once ran the world’s largest factory:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492

That kind of naïveté is common among scientists, engineers and technical professionals, and has to do with how they are wired:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

I am a semi-nerd myself, so I can relate to a lot of how blind they are to things that “normal” people can easily see. I can’t read body language and non-verbal cues very well, for instance. I have to be regularly debriefed during my career on office politics and who was sleeping with whom, because I needed to know it to help run the company, and I would have never been able to see it on my own. But the human condition I have made a study for many years, even though there is a lot about it that I can’t easily see.

Where that all is relevant in the FE pursuit and inventors is that they can be amazingly naïve and blind to very obvious dynamics. Add in that most inventors are motivated to become rich and famous, and magnify it by a thousand times where FE is concerned, and then it might begin to become clearer why I have rarely seen an inventor with the right stuff to walk even ten feet down the FE path. Delusions of grandeur often infect them early on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

They almost all fall prey to greed before any project gets very far along, and they are easily seduced by Godzilla’s agents (or free-lance crooks), like Mr. Engineer was by Mr. Texas.

Another big delusion around FE and inventors is thinking that somebody can make a market-ready FE device in their garage. Of the 20,000 people or so who took the money, probably few, if any, were ready for commercial production. Not long after Brian O began to snoop into FE, he tried to sober up newbies that there was a huge gulf between the inventor in his garage with a prototype and putting something on the market. In his last years, Brian figured that it would take about $200 million to do it. The lies about Dennis aside:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

nobody in the FE field has ever had that kind of access to funding, for several reasons, and not just because Godzilla is vigilant. Capitalism is a shark tank, and it gets magnified greatly for a technology that promises wealth beyond the dreams of avarice:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

Virtually everybody who gets involved thinks of stealing it, and I have watched many try:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal

And you might notice that I am not even talking about Godzilla yet. When he joins the party, the party can be over pretty quickly. Rossi and Keshe, for instance, have not even glimpsed Godzilla yet.

I could go on for many pages on what I learned about the inventor/capitalist path to FE. I eventually realized that it does not have a prayer in the current environment, but virtually every voice in the FE field today comes at the problem from the inventor-capitalist end of it. It is all a dead end, IMO, and I decided to do something different. But, as you look at this thread, and see the dozens of posts on this or that inventor, you can see how “infected” the FE spectators are regarding that approach, and thinking that it holds some promise. Only people like Dennis, repeatedly laying his life on the line, has any business trying those routes, and I decided long ago that I did not want to, nor could I afford to, play that game any longer.

When I look at a Keshe or Rossi or Steorn, all I can think of is “lambs to the slaughter,” and oblivious lambs at that. I just got back from hiking, my first real mountain hike of the year, and need to go lie down for a little while. Before the weekend is over, I will write on that inventors’ thread about some of the many red flags that came up when witnessing Keshe’s approach, and I’ll respond to the other posts on the Wade-related Avalon threads.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
13th May 2012, 03:27
Hi:

Briefly, Limor, thanks for your input. I have an understanding of your fears, but nobody is going to be putting their livelihood into singing the song that I envision, so being in or out of the choir has no bearing on anybody’s daily lives, livelihoods, etc. The song is one of abundance, and it has never been heard on Earth before in chorus, not in a practical way. As Brian O said, there are plenty of people who say the mystical right words, but making it all real and practical is the hard part. Godzilla’s greatest triumph is keeping FE and what can come with it unimaginable to the masses. I don’t want to engage the masses, but the awake and the awakening. The masses will begin to wake up to FE and abundance when it can be part of their daily reality. After years and years of playing the Level 10 game with Dennis and Brian:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

I realized that the masses just can’t get it. And almost nobody else can, either. I am not looking for a bunch of people, but needles in haystacks. I am looking for people who can hit the notes, and I am not currently trying to recruit anybody into that future choir. I will likely try with a few Avalonians, but it will probably only be a few. As I have stated before, what Ilie has done is the gold standard of what I am looking for, but even Ilie may not want to join. I have not really come out with the hymnal yet, not with what I am shooting for. The most important part is that people can hit the notes, and almost nobody currently knows the song. Heck, they have not even heard it before.

I quote Cannon’s work on my site a bit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#cannon

and have most of her books, including all those Convoluted Universe books. Are those stories accurate? Beats me. Yes, a lot of it dovetails with what scientists are finding out, but plenty does not. Yes, with a sample size of one, nobody really knows about the other planets out there. Scientists usually are modest enough to say, “Life as we know it.” We don’t know much, on a galactic scale. The mystical stuff says that there are talking clouds on some planets, and Michael says that there are a million ensouled species in our galaxy. I find it interesting in that as scientists spot more planets orbiting nearby stars, and they find that planets are common features of solar systems, and they are now finding planets that are like Earth, at least in size and orbit and the star it orbits, that some of the estimates I am now seeing make the million ensouled species number begin to fall within the range of estimates of possibly Earth-like planets in our galaxy that may host complex life. Over the years, when I have seen various channels voice scientific information, I file it away in the back of my mind, and it is interesting when I later stumble onto scientific findings that confirm those words, such as Seth’s statements about pleomorphic viruses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#seth1

Hi Fred: We will see how this crazy idea pans out. :)

Hi Wandering Ponderer, yes, as long as the song is love and abundance, with some practical, grounded perspectives, there will be as many variations on the song as there are choir members. But, the song is one of love and practical abundance. Every singer needs to be able to hit those notes.

I have chores to do, so signing off for the night.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
13th May 2012, 05:07
Hi Limor, I think I know you a bit better and got a different question from your post :)

You fear that Wade's idea of a choir would suppress individuality and become more like a "group hive".

I personally see the choir more like an "amplification device" for the Free Energy paradigm. I don't have to surrender my individuality to support that, just add my "notes" to it. And most likely, different "personalities" will enrich the "tone" in marvelous ways while still keeping to the main theme.

You can think by yourself about a topic and explore it, but just imagine how it is when you can discuss the same topic with more like minded people that can see different things than you, or have explored the idea from different vantage points.

So you don't surrender your individuality, rather just support each other.

Ernie Nemeth
13th May 2012, 05:45
I will never be a giving up my sovereignty again for any group anything, so be at peace. Many have the same sentiment. We're sick of the group mentality already, complacently walking off the edge of the cliff with everyone else. That's so yesterday!

No, when the secret technologies break "free" of the tombs they've been encripted in for so long, you will see a revolution of "free" thinking people like never before. It will be unprecedented, there is no parallel in all the history of mankind. The ingenuity of the common man will finally be "free" to soar like never before. And the mute voices of the unknown geniuses will sing in harmonies of sweet, sweet inspiration that will catapault the lives of all mankind to ones of true abundance.

That's a choir I am ready to sing in ... and I predict so will you.

Limor Wolf
13th May 2012, 12:54
Thank you all for your comments. yes, Ilie, you know me a bit better and you hit the target - a 'group hive' was what I meant, but Ernie and yourself have put my mind at ease with your own views of things. and anyway, I shouldn't bring my own 'concerns' to this beautiful and evolving discussion. so, 'hear hear' to as many singers as possible that will be able to sing the song of FE and hit the right notes. and I agree with both your stances on it, and of course Wade's and Awp's.

This morning I woke up to a peaceful atmosphere .it is this special time of the year, plenty of birds on the trees, and a fresh smell in the air.
soon, the spring will turn into this long hot and humid summer days, so familiar in the middle east, which will not leave any memory of what coolness is.
Suprisingly, airconditions can be man's best friends at certain parts of the world, in a certain period of time. This makes me reflect on the hugh price we pay in order to maintain our conveniences in our today industrialized world. my aircondition saves my life on those almost unbearable hot days, but it also contributes to the abuse of the resources of our environment . I am able to 'enjoy' this convenience in the exchange of some painted piece of paper, quite a lot of it, actually, which I am working hard to achieve. The most important thing seems to be the on-going demand for more and more energy, we are a consuming monsters of the environment, users and abusers, and the funny thing is how much energy we have to put ourselvs in order to get some of it back.

This is why persuing free energy is the number one priority in our lives, together with expanding our understanding of the endless posibilities it brings, one path leads to a foreseeable future extinction of the human race, the other to nourishment, abundance and new possibilites for this same society. One needs to be mad to chose the first option, or indifferent, that is..

I was also thinking how a device that can cool our homes, warm our water, operate our elevators, lit the corridor in the building we live in based on FE is a good start and it's already here. but it's only the beggining, Life based on non-biodegradable energy power allows us to dream big on every aspect of our lives, we can literally reach the stars. it will inevitably turn us into better human beings, because it will eliminate a very rooted fear that we have - the fear of lack and the fear of non- existance.

When I open my mind to the knowledge of free energy, it brings various possibilities to us humans. I believe there are many galaxies and other beings that can teach us something on this area..

With the territory comes the responsibility, and we better learn to become responsible while at it, the mind set is very important , I guess this is why Wade is constantly refering to living from the heart as the most eminent 'atrribute' that we need to adopt in our journey to an FE based society. the key point is probably to naturally consider what is best for all instead of what is best for the individual.

Anyway, I will probably keep using my aircondition this summer, but I will also start to vision how on the many summers that will follow, a new processes and a new (old) existing use of energy will burst into our lives and open doors to us that we never dared to open, never dared to dream. This possibility is out there, hanging in the air... and is waiting to be joined by a few more, gain the momentum and become available to us all. I want to experience summers of freedom, not summers of the next planned war which is mostly about the control of petroleum reservoirs

wynderer
13th May 2012, 12:57
thanks for that about 'living from the heart'

your posts are helping me to understand free energy, & why it is about as dangerous a line of work as it has recently been for microbiologists


Thank you all for your comments. yes, Ilie, you know me a bit better and you hit the target - a 'group hive' was what I meant, but Ernie and yourself have put my mind at ease with your own views of things. and anyway, I shouldn't bring my own 'concerns' to this beautiful and evolving discussion. so, 'hear hear' to as many singers as possible that will be able to sing the song of FE and hit the right notes. and I agree with both your stances on it, and of course Wade's and Awp's.

This morning I woke up to a peaceful atmosphere .it is this special time of the year, plenty of birds on the trees, and a fresh smell in the air.
soon, the spring will turn into this long hot and humid summer days, so familiar in the middle east, which will not leave any memory of what coolness is.
Suprisingly, airconditions can be man's best friends at certain parts of the world, in a certain period of time. This makes me reflect on the hugh price we pay in order to maintain our conveniences in our today industrialized world. my aircondition saves my life on those almost unbearable hot days, but it also contributes to the abuse of the resources of our environment . I am able to 'enjoy' this convenience in exchange of some painted piece of paper, quite a lot of it, actually, which I am working hard to achieve. The most important thing seems to be the on-going demand for more and more energy, we are a consuming monsters of the environment, users and abusers, and the funny thing is how much energy we have to put ourselvs in order to get some of it back.

This is why persuing free energy is the number one priority in our lives, together with expanding our understanding of the endless posibilities it brings, one path leads to the foreseeable future extinction of the human race, the other to nourishment, abundance and new possibilites for this same society. One needs to be mad to chose the first option, or indifferent, that is..

I was also thinking how a device that can cool our homes, warm our water, operate our elevators, lit the corridor in the building we live in based on FE is a good start and it's already here. but it's only the beggining, Life based on non-biodegradable energy power allows us to dream big on every aspect of our lives, we can literally reach the stars. it will inevitably turn us into better human beings, because it will eliminate a very rooted fear that we have - the fear of lack and the fear of non- existance.

When I open my mind to the knowledge of free energy, it brings various possibilities to us humans. I believe there are many galaxies and other beings that can teach us something on this area..

With the territory comes the responsibility, and we better learn to become responsible while at it, the mind set is very important , I guess this is why Wade is constantly refering to living from the heart as the most eminent 'atrribute' that we need to adopt in our journey to an FE based society. the key point is probably to naturally consider what is best for all instead of what is best of us.

Anyway, I will probably keep using my aircondition this summer, but I will also start to vision how on the many summers that will follow, a new processes and a new/old existing use of energy will burst into our lives and open doors to us that we never dared to open, never dared to dream. This possibility is out there, hanging in the air... and is waiting to be joined by a few more, gain the momentum and become available to us all. I want to experience summers of freedom, not summers of the next planned war which is mostly about the control of petroleum reservoirs

Wade Frazier
13th May 2012, 13:05
Hi:

Briefly, Limor, Seth once said that the most powerful organization is humans with their individuality intact and a unity of purpose. That is what my choir idea is going to try to achieve. That is rather the opposite of the Great Herd, which is managed by playing to people’s fears and survival mechanisms, and their scarcity-based ways of thinking:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

My goal is to help provide the purpose, and the purpose is dependent on the means to get there. As Seth also once said, the means become the ends:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

I also have been on the FE battlefield and survived, and do not plan to lead people onto that field, not until several thousand singers learn the song, and ten times that many are in rapt attention. It is quite possible that other events will make the immediate goal, the public appearance of FE, obsolete, but then the fun will only be beginning. To have that kind of crowd understand the big picture, to understand the nuts and bolts of how the world really works, will be invaluable for humanity to be able to turn the corner. Our toes are over the edge of the abyss, in many ways, and it all comes down to scarcity. Abolish scarcity, and the world can change in ways that seem impossible right now. If we turn the corner, worlds like this begin to come into view:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

Without FE, they can’t.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
13th May 2012, 13:19
Originally posted by Wynderer: "your posts are helping me to understand free energy, & why it is about as dangerous a line of work as it has recently been for microbiologists"

Thanks Wynderer, you are way too fast in replying : ) my typo's and english mistakes are now forever perpetuated, ha,ha

Reading Wade's experiences and comprehensive insights on the subject of FE, gained by his physical hike on this convoluted trail and by his inquisitive mind is a very good basis from which to begin to understand Fe, with all the ailments of the path and the promises embodied in it. Thank's again

==EDIT==

Wade, I appreciate it. Yes, I understand what you are aiming for, and I feel that this is the way to reach forword. you have the good formula of being a visionary, an idealist and a battered hound dog, if you don't mind me saying ;)

wynderer
13th May 2012, 13:28
Hey Limor -- i'll fix your typos in a repost if you like [smile]-- i did proofreading for 5 yrs -- i'm actually impressed by how many here from non-English- speaking countries express yourselves so well in what i understand is a difficult language to learn

i have a question re the choir -- this is the first REAL let's-get-together-&-do-something concept i've come across -- sound & vibration are pretty important here, as is the heart -- question: is this an online choir? or is everybody getting together somewhere in a 3D location?

wyn





Originally posted by Wynderer: "your posts are helping me to understand free energy, & why it is about as dangerous a line of work as it has recently been for microbiologists"

Thanks Wynderer, you are way too fast in replying :) my typo's and english mistakes are now forever perpetuated, ha,ha

Reading Wade's experiences and comprehensive insights on the subject of FE, gained by his physical hike on this convoluted trail and by his inquisitive mind is a very good basis from which to begin to understand Fe, with all the ailments of the path and the promises embodied in it. Thank's again

Scott
13th May 2012, 14:12
Just a heads up, in the last few weeks there have been a few chats with Solution based speakers.

rob in the page family Project Off Grid (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?203-Project-Off-Grid-rob-in-the-page-Family-Live-Chat)

Foster Gamble Thrive Movement Update - May 2012 (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?478-Foster-Gamble-Thrive-Movement-Update-May-2012)

Michael Tellinger - Taking on the South African Bankers - UBUNTU Contributionism (http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?387-Michael-Tellinger-Taking-on-the-South-African-Bankers-UBUNTU-Contributionism)

We know there are problems on the planet, what we need is more discussion & effort & implementation in the area of Solutions.

Scott

Wade Frazier
13th May 2012, 19:17
Hi:

Here is where I deal with Keshe today, and inventors in general:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41011-Energy-Inventors&p=487662&viewfull=1#post487662

Best,

Wade

sandy
13th May 2012, 20:45
Hi Wynderer,

Not sure who you are addressing your question to regarding the choir but I will share what my understanding of the choir gathering will be if you will allow.

When one operates from heart intent and energy the frequency does not need to be online or even in a 3D event. LOVE emanates an energy wave that IMHO surpasses thought to such an extent that it is almost, if not impossible, to fully comprehend let alone explain. Therefore I believe when the choir comes together and all are ready to sing they will be singing from all over the Globe and the frequency will move the obstacles to FE in a way that no other attempts have been able to do.

It is an unknown experiment who results are going to be known hopefully in my lifetime. Supporters I'm sure, will be online and may even formulate some 3D supportive events however the choir will be operating from a frequency of pure intent and therefore, level 12 self actualization will more than likely be a priority.

Well that's my assessment and the way I understand Wade's initiative to create a choir to Sing FE. I'm sure he will let me know if I'm on target or not. :)

Thank you for being here, for your participation and enthusiasm. I'm really enjoying the posts these days which adds more to checking in daily.

Happy to hear you got to hike Wade and rejuvenate some of those depleted energies you busy life requires. :happy:





Originally posted by Wynderer: "your posts are helping me to understand free energy, & why it is about as dangerous a line of work as it has recently been for microbiologists"

Thanks Wynderer, you are way too fast in replying :) my typo's and english mistakes are now forever perpetuated, ha,ha

Reading Wade's experiences and comprehensive insights on the subject of FE, gained by his physical hike on this convoluted trail and by his inquisitive mind is a very good basis from which to begin to understand Fe, with all the ailments of the path and the promises embodied in it. Thank's again[/QUOTE]

Wade Frazier
13th May 2012, 21:02
Yes, Sandy, I hope that I live to see it, too, and time will tell, but I am probably far closer to my life’s end than the beginning. Like the various FE levels:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

the choir will likely start as a technological phenomenon, but will expand beyond it. Our tools made us, but our tools will probably never disappear. But tools are not all of the story, not by any means. Some worship technological solutions, but as I learned and as Brian O eventually did, technology is really a small part of the FE and abundance conundrum. Scientists and FE inventors are really a tiny part of the solution, and mainstream scientists are actually a big part of the problem, but the biggest part of the problem is John Q. Public, and he is fast asleep and will not awaken until the means of awakening are delivered to his door.

The choir will be comprised of the very few who are currently awake on the planet. One day, a Level 19 choir may form, but my goals are more modest, for a Level 12 choir. What it may be able to accomplish, both online and offline, has yet to be determined. I am trying to take advantage of his relatively new medium, the Internet, to cast my line globally, and the people in this conversation hail from across the planet. That is part of what I was shooting for.

Back to chores, and yes, the hikes the past four days straight were just what the doctor ordered, but I still have plenty to do to settle into the new place.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th May 2012, 03:15
Hi Wynderer:

I have stated recently on this thread that I have no plans for 3-D gatherings. Any 3-D gathering is going to attract the kind of attention that I cannot in good conscience subject people to. I would be risking my life and the lives of those who gathered. And that is not just because Godzilla’s agents, and those of local and national level predators, will show up, but all sorts of people would show up to pursue their self-serving agendas, such as try to recruit people for misguided and naïve FE attempts, prey on those that they can, and so on. I am speaking from a great deal of woeful experience, I am sorry to say. This stuff is way too big for the typical tactics to have a chance.

The cyber-gathering will be real people, with names and faces, and that will be enough to get going what I envision.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th May 2012, 16:00
Hi:

OK, let’s get back on track. With the rise of plate tectonic theory in my lifetime, many theories have fallen by the wayside. One was the theory that the North Pole moved dramatically:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis

Another was abiotic oil theory, which was popular with Stalinist-era Soviet scientists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

As the tools improve and more scientists pursue data and novel experiments, the picture has sharpened in many areas. I don’t like using the term pseudoscience, but on the fringes is a great deal of invalid theorizing. That is part of what I call the layman’s quandary:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

Part of the problem with the above-top-secret world, and it is very real, let me assure you, is that anybody can claim that they are some kind of insider, or have inside sources, telling them what is happening. Probably more often than not, it is disinformation. I only give credence to inside stuff that has been validated by my inner circle, usually because they have experienced aspects of it. That is a big reason why I stay away from virtually all the inside stuff. About 99.9% of what I have to offer does not need any “inside stuff” to “validate” what I am stating. I keep to information that people can explore for themselves, so they don’t need to take my word for it. I am not an insider, and do not claim to have a bunch of inside information. I leave that to the conspiracists. As I have repeatedly stated, you don’t find Godzilla, but he finds you. This pal was not looking for Godzilla when he got his show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

and when Brian O almost died after his encounter with a military official over the UFO situation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

he did not seek out the military; they sought him out. When a former astronaut engages in “innocuous” activities such as playing the UFO game, people in high places get very interested. I have had the goons strip my office to the walls:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

My partner was offered a billion dollars to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

just before he found himself in jail with a million dollar bail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#jail

and the “crime” that he spent two years behind bars on was failing to file a form:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#judge

I have seen many wrecked and prematurely-ended lives on my journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

and don’t want to see any more of that, and I want to reemphasize that I am going to do my best to steer the choir away from those life-threatening reefs. This thread has been crashed dozens of times by people with inventor-itis and other early-level and naïve perspectives. When I get that choir going, there will not be any of that, but at Avalon, it seems that I must put up with it, as part of my patience training. :)

I want to touch back on the findings of some of my recent readings. All pre-industrial civilizations were vulnerable to the climate’s variability. In the hunter-gatherer phase of the human journey, there was relative plenty, as least while the easy meat lasted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

after the easy meat was rendered extinct, and the Malthusian limit was reached and people began fighting more fiercely over the dwindling energy supplies, in several places around the world, independently, plants and animals were domesticated. One of the key reasons why the New World’s pre-Columbian peoples did not have draft animals like they did in the Old World was that their entrance into the Western Hemisphere was incredibly disastrous for all of the megafauna, and they quickly drove to extinction all of the candidates for domesticated draft animals, whereas the animals that lived near evolving humanity in Africa and Asia learned to avoid those killer apes and enough of them survived that “golden age” of the hunter-gatherer to become candidates for draft animals and sources of easy meat.

Several thousand years after the beginning of the domestication of plants and animals, people learned to smelt metals. That is when the deforestation of the Fertile Crescent and vicinity began in earnest, but China is thought to have been the first place to “achieve” complete deforestation, several thousand years ago. Stone Age peoples could also deforest the land for their crops, pastures, fires and building materials, but Bronze Age, and then Iron Age, peoples gained an order of magnitude in the ability to manipulate their environment, and they did. Before the domestication revolution in the Fertile Crescent, there was a forest that ran from Morocco to Afghanistan. It is long gone, taken out by deforestation and kept that way by farming and tending herd animals that ate any attempts for the forest to regenerate. A lot of that former forest is desert today. That deforestation and resultant erosion was the signature evidence left by those old civilizations, as many of them became buried in the silt of erosion that followed deforestation. The Troy of legend was buried beneath more than twenty feet of silt, as I recall.

The rise and fall of civilizations and empires are now tied by scientists pretty closely to climate changes, as well as civilizations that wiped out their environments with deforestation and erosion. Eventually, such activities push the environments past their point of stability and they collapse. If the environment has not been pushed too far, it can regenerate quickly, usually with a changed character. But when it gets pushed too far, it can suffer a catastrophic collapse, and it can take immense amounts of time to recover, and when it does, it can look nothing like what preceded it.

Earth’s great mass extinction events were of the catastrophic collapse variety, and it took tens of millions of years for the ecosystems to recover, and when they did, there were completely new mixes of life forms. Mammals arrived on the scene at about the same time as dinosaurs, but they were marginal life forms, either living in tree tops or underground, while the dinosaurs had their day in the sun. Dinosaurs could not survive the impact of a comet or asteroid 65 million years ago, and mammals were the next life forms to rise to dominance.

Today, we are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction, and this one is cause by a life form, humans. At the rate it is going, it may rival the extinction rates of the Permian-Triassic extinction event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event

If so, it will take tens of millions of years for Earth’s ecosystems to recover. I am doing what I can so that that is not my species’s legacy. FE can stop the insanely short-sighted and wanton destruction of the biosphere in the name of energy security. Humans are an ego-centric herd animal, and the jury is still out if we are really sentient. :) If we wipe ourselves out and take most of the biosphere with us, future scientists, which may be some kind of sentient insect, may debate whether those ape fossils scattered around all the land masses were sentient. They left behind many artifacts, so they seemed sentient, but it looked like they were the primary agent of cutting their legs out from under themselves by wiping out the biosphere, so the debate of whether it was really a sentient species could rage for quite some time amongst those insect-scientists.

On a smaller time-horizon, the Medieval Warm Period, from about 800-1300 AD, was a time of city-building in Europe, as the warmer climate allowed Europeans to farm far north of where they could during the Little Ice Age (1350-1850) that followed it, and their deforestation of Europe during the Medieval Warm Period was prodigious. They took Europe’s carrying capacity to the Malthusian limit that their technology would allow them to, and in the early 1300s, great famines wracked Europe, followed by the Black Death, and Europe became a hell on Earth.

While the Medieval Warm Period was a “blessing” for Europe, much of the rest of the world suffered though epic droughts, which brought about the decline and fall of the classic Mayans, Anasazi, and the Khmer monarchy centered on Angkor Wat. Today, the droughts of the Medieval Warm Period are thought to have brought on the dynamics that led to the catastrophic invasions of the Mongol Hordes.

On a longer timeline, the domestication of plants and animals, and the resultant deforestation, has left a clear imprint on rising carbon dioxide levels in Earth’s atmosphere. Scientists have now compared that signature to several comparable interglacial periods, of the fifty or so that have happened during the current ice age that has lasted for nearly three million years and will continue for millions more, and rising carbon dioxide levels beginning about 8,000 years ago (relating to deforestation), and rising methane (relating to the rice paddies of South China), beginning about 5,000 years ago, are now fairly firmly established.

Like rising oxygen levels due to photosynthesis made the atmosphere breathable for animals like us, the rising carbon dioxide and methane levels have delayed the next glaciation. According to the pattern of this ice age, we should have had advancing ice sheets already, but the human impact on the atmosphere, which has dramatically-increased during the hydrocarbon fuel era, not only is delaying the next glacial interval for thousands of years, the next few centuries, just with what has been vented to the atmosphere and absorbed into the oceans thus far, is going to wreak climactic havoc. Unless humans change their ways, and fast, huge catastrophes loom. Many scientists are speculating on what that is going to look like, and it is not pretty. Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum is a good introduction what can be up ahead, and the Peak Oilers also have all manner of dire forecast:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

All of those scientists and speculators are Level 0 or Level 3 people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0

Free energy can make all the dire scenarios go away almost overnight, and that is perhaps the most surreal part of my journey, that we have all of these prophets of doom out there, and some of them work really hard to ignore the solution that can make almost all of the problems disappear. The nuts and bolts of it are the easily understood parts. Far more subtle are the social and ideological impacts. None of the doomsayers seem to understand that their minds have been cultivated into scarcity-based thinking. All dominant ideologies are scarcity-based:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and they all become obsolete with FE and what can come with it. Abundance makes the primary motivation for war obsolete:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

and that is the worst nightmare for the dark pathers who currently run the show, and they only run the show because almost all humans play the victim game rather than the creator game. I am looking for people who can play the creator game before FE is delivered to their homes. They are needles in haystacks, but that is whom I seek, and Avalon is one of my avenues of looking for them.

Stay tuned.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
14th May 2012, 16:30
Let me see if my very rudimentary understanding of quantum physics is working on all cylinders here, concerning this choir. Once a group of individuals even begins to seriously contemplate this, much less intend for it to be, has it not then already been created, and momentum building?

Also bearing infinite potential in mind, which is what I think Godzilla fears us discovering of ourselves even more than the secrets of FE being released, other similar choirs have likely already been created simply through quantum entanglement of individual desires.

Wade, me thinks your choir has already been created, and ultimately all these loosely related choirs will find themselves more and more singing from the same grand songsheet, quite possibly even without conscious realization of it. In the beginning anyway.

Don't know about anyone else, but I feel the ring of various choirs "out there" every so often, and they're just getting warmed up. It's going to be a catchy tune, and a whole lot of fun to belt out.

POST UPDATE:

Just saw your post about getting back on track with other things Wade. Sorry about that, not meaning to step on any toes here.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/hippie.gif

Wade Frazier
14th May 2012, 16:36
Amen, Fred, Amen. Your post is on track. No worries. :)

Jean-Luc
14th May 2012, 17:58
Hi:

Free energy can make all the dire scenarios go away almost overnight, and that is perhaps the most surreal part of my journey, that we have all of these prophets of doom out there, and some of them work really hard to ignore the solution that can make almost all of the problems disappear. The nuts and bolts of it are the easily understood parts. Far more subtle are the social and ideological impacts. None of the doomsayers seem to understand that their minds have been cultivated into scarcity-based thinking. All dominant ideologies are scarcity-based:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and they all become obsolete with FE and what can come with it. Abundance makes the primary motivation for war obsolete:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

and that is the worst nightmare for the dark pathers who currently run the show, and they only run the show because almost all humans play the victim game rather than the creator game. I am looking for people who can play the creator game before FE is delivered to their homes.

Hi Wade

Guess who wrote the following this very day ?

Best

Jean-Luc



"In the universal community these acts of war cannot be done and man from now on has to learn that wars for possessions are only due to the short sightedness of man himself, as the universe will provide everything that all creatures in the universe need without conflict or any need to fight to attain them."

(...)

"Oh men of ignorance, with what language shall I speak that all will carry the love of the creator and beware of harming others and yourself."

(...)

"A child cries to his father to let him handle and play with fire, but the father knows that unless he teaches him the safe way to start and to control the fire, then the child can harm himself and others with his actions, by being fascinated with the beauty of its light and warmth of its flame."

(...)

"Our knowledge is yours and we see you getting ready to step out and to leave the womb of the earth’s atmosphere and become the infant of the universe and enjoy the first fruits of the nursery of
its knowledge.

Blessed are those souls who have understood the true meaning of what has been said above and understand the beauty of what is waiting for the children of Adam in the concourse of the universe."


Hint here : http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40800-Keshe-foundation&p=488236&viewfull=1#post488236 :)

Melinda
14th May 2012, 18:55
Thank you Jean-Luc. I enjoyed reading those quotes :)
I don't want to go off-topic after such an engaging post, but yesterday my 4 year old nephew said to me, out of nowhere, "When I die I am going to go to heaven."
So I said to him, "I see. And what will be in heaven?" So he mentioned grapes and trees and cars and other things. And I said... "Ah, so all of these things that are in heaven are also here," and he thought about it for a while and then replied "Aaaah. So heaven can be here." :)

The quotes in your post Jean-Luc reminded me of it :)

P.S. Talk about free-energy; children have it in abundance, LOL!

I followed the link to put the quotes in context. It is a compelling read. I found it very moving. But I don't want to write too much. I'd be interested to hear if others here have any thoughts on the text you linked to. To all: I hope the first part of my post doesn't read too lightheartedly in context of what the link referred to. That wasn't my intention. When it think of free energy I think of my young relatives and all the little people I'm privileged to work with, and what it can mean for their future and their ability to fulfill their potential and tend this generous planet. I am new to this forum, and occasionally my heart spills onto the page. I will leave it there.

Wade Frazier
15th May 2012, 05:11
Hi Jean-Luc:

Many of us can talk a good game. :)

As long as it is just talk, not too many people are going to get into trouble, at least Internet talk. Public speaking on this topic can get you killed, but cyber-talk so far seems relatively safe.

My approach is strikingly different than anybody else’s that I know of, and I get a sense, both here and in my non-Internet life, of how people treat this as some academic issue, with plenty of imagination being used, but not really grounded in our reality, and I am going to do a little sharing to get the point across.

A voice in my head led me on my journey, and when asked for at two critical junctures in my life, the voice guided me, and the outcome both times set my life’s course in ways that I still find hard to believe, and I lived through it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice1

Even though those events are part of the folklore around Dennis, my family and friends virtually never even acknowledge that those events happened. I don’t know if it is to protect their sense of reality or to make me more “normal” in their eyes, but it happened, and ended up affecting many, many lives, and arguably few for the better.

The third time I heard it, I did not ask for it, and it was as I was saying goodbye to the corpse of a saint whose life was affected by that voice:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

I am pretty angry with that voice, and it was ten years ago this month that Mr. Professor died, and I will always own a piece of his wrecked life and his death, and it will always haunt me.

Dennis’s journey is far more preposterous than mine was, but his radicalizing moment on his energy quest was when one of his employees died due to the efforts of a corporate hit man:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=414784&viewfull=1#post414784

In the book that Dennis wrote in the incarceration that he did not expect to escape alive, he said that her death was “very special” (My Quest, p. 132). I would not have described it that way, but Dennis owns a piece of her death.

Brian O recruited me to co-found NEM, and Eugene Mallove was murdered the week after he committed to be our conference’s first speaker. The circumstances around his murder spooked Brian, who immediately began planning his move to South America:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

Brian and I would never buy the retail crime explanation of his death. Mallove’s tenants may indeed have done the deed, but that does not mean that it was not an engineered event. Like it or not, we all have blood on our hands, however noble our intentions may have been. When you are staring at the dead body of the person whose life you helped wreck, the gravity of what you are trying to accomplish sure can hit home. I would not wish what I lived through on anybody.

Those are actual premature or violent deaths that we have on our consciences. Far more lives were wrecked, and I will be living with that for the rest of my days, too. When I see some FE inventor hawking his wares with his pretty talk, I really don’t want to watch, and I don’t want anybody to get the slightest idea that I support what they are doing. The pile of FE martyrs is high and deep. I don’t want to add myself to the pile, and I don’t want to encourage anybody else to go play martyr. The only people who have any business playing the FE game on the world stage, if they want to have a prayer of success, need to be able to successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Anything less will end in disaster, and talk is cheap. Dennis is the only person on Earth that I know of who could successfully complete that application. Only those who want to lay their lives on the line should go join him. I sure don’t. I am doing something radically different than playing the FE inventor game. I did it in the 1980s and 1990s, but those days are far behind me and I will never play them again. Anybody who wants to play those games and is reading this is on the wrong thread, interacting with the wrong guy.

I am going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Jean-Luc
15th May 2012, 09:15
Hi Wade

Thank you for this. I understand the whole story is very emotional. I also understand the many reasons why you've moved away from all this.

I too would be extremely sad if anything would happen to scientist, physicist, engineer, philosopher, life 're-setter' Merhan Keshe. He himself is perfectly aware of the rules of the game and says he's ready to face them.

See here for instance (Jan 2011):
"We are very much in danger and we have been informed by reliable sources that we have to be careful, but in any case some three further books are already written and more or less complete, and in due course we will release these books. This will happen if I am alive or not and if the governments draw the sanction and decide to do their final acts."
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=208&view=previous

And today a groundbreaking fourth book on among other things the very nature of the Soul (I believe a free 400 pages e-book) is close from being published.

The future is written nowhere. But basically, the cat is out of the bag. Iran is apparently aware of much of the technology already, and as Keshe put it yesterday

"With the presence of this sword in the hand of the just and intelligent man, he will enforce peace without misusing it, like the Iranians with our knowledge in their hand for nearly four years who have never abused it.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2485 (May 14)

Anyway. I will respect your wish not to dwell further on this major breakthrough - the fundamental comprehension of Matter & Life with respect to magnetic and gravitational fields - on this thread with this closing remark.

Despite many apparent (and sad) similarities, this is a very different framework from what you've experienced and so extensively and generously described in your writings which I've read for a good part (and I really thank you for that as I found your experiences and breadth of views most helpful).

This goes so far beyond the single FE concept.

Although it may sound presumptuous given the consequences, FE for Keshe (a term he dislikes and refrains from using) is in a way some sort of side-effect of his core discoveries on the true nature of Matter and its relations with the intertwine of magnetic and gravitational fields.


The only people who have any business playing the FE game on the world stage, if they want to have a prayer of success, need to be able to successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Anything less will end in disaster, and talk is cheap.


So believe it or not, and despite what appears at first sight when looking at his website (including the patent stuff and the like), the strategy has now changed quite radically as Keshe is now for a controlled handing over of the knowledge to Humanity via both (all nations) governments and the public (among others through his books aimed at circumventing peer-review blockages)

So despite some similarities, this is a VERY different game - however highly risky - from ANYTHING we have seen in the last 50 years.

We live an age of increased awareness. An age of a much needed quantum leap into a new comprehension of the true nature of Life and Matter, away from the insane equilibrium of terror and wars we live in, and the game played by so many insane crooks in position of power on the planet.

As Bill was saying on May 12 in this talk with James Gilliland at Trout Lake (something like, quoting from memory) : "No wonder our guests watching us are not willing to manifest themselves more, given the state of the planet and of the human mentallty".

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_James_Gilliland_As_You_Wish_Talk_Radio_12_May_2012.mp3

The release of this fundamental knowledge, well beyond their mere technological aspects and repercussions (including "FE"), may well be part of this much needed transformation move for a better future.

Time will tell.
I am crossing fingers and hoping for the best.
And wherever I can, giving a little help in what I believe is a very positive direction.

Best

Jean-Luc



PS. I am not in the "saver mentallty". It's up to every single individual to take his/her responsibilities to help clean up the mess and avoid further chaos on this planet. I am more and more convinced (it takes time and effort to read and take the measure of the importance of the material) that this new knowledge may be of tremendous help for a future of abundance & health for everyone. Dreamer? :)

Wade Frazier
15th May 2012, 15:39
Hi:

Thanks, Jean-Luc, for respecting my wishes. You can make future Keshe posts on other Avalon threads. His approach and material is far from new to me, I wish him the best, but I have been on that battlefield before and have no desire to revisit it or encourage anybody else to go there.

Back to my current reading…

I obtained several of LaViolette’s books, and am slowly working my way through them. I stumbled into the Velikovsky controversy nearly twenty years ago, and have been on the fringes of it ever since. There are many alternative physics and cosmology models out there. Velikovsky challenged the orthodox notions of gravity, proposed global catastrophes in the historical period (specifically, that many Bible stories, like parting the Red Sea and Manna were side effects of a near collision with a Venus that had recently been born), and had Einstein’s ear. When Einstein died, the book open on his desk was Velikovsky’s Worlds in Collision. Velikovsky was the last in a long line of biblical catastrophists. Virtually no mainstream scientists take Velikovsky’s work seriously, especially after Carl Sagan led the attack back in the 1970s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#velikovsky

Velikovsky’s work has been carried on by various people, several of whom I have interacted with, and there is an Electric Universe movement that envelopes a lot of Velikovsky’s work in it. There is fierce debate on that subject, with the Electric Universe people disparaged as pseudoscientists and other epithets. But mainstream scientists, such as Clube and Napier, have proposed orthodox-science theories to explain those ancient catastrophes, and they propose “super-Tgunska” events, of comet showers, to explain those ancient catastrophes. And virtually all of them try to explain the extinction of the mammoth with catastrophic events. What none of those theories have explained to my satisfaction is that the megafauna quickly disappeared wherever humans have appeared in the past 50,000 years.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

The disappearance of the mammoth is a minor mystery, when the broad waves of extinctions are considered. South America had elephants, too, and they disappeared right after humans appeared (and elephant skins on human artifacts from South America have been discovered). LaViolette sides with the catastrophic explanation of the mammoth’s extinction, but I think that the North American extinctions are kind of a red herring regarding the megafaunal extinctions. Yes, glacial dams collapsing and flooding huge tracts of land likely buried many of the well-preserved mammoths that have been discovered, but humans are the constant variable in all of the megafaunal extinctions in the past 50,000 years.

If you peruse Stan Deyo’s work, he appears to be a former insider who tells some of what he knows about the above-top-secret world and antigravity and vortex theory. Trombly’s homopolar generator worked on similar principles, and inventing that is when Adam’s ride began to get “interesting.” LaViolette had a mystical experience as a science student in college which propelled him into his alternative physics path, and his work travels much of the same territory. His Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion deals with anti-gravity research in the USA after World War II, and how it all went black in the 1950s, before I was born. It aligns well with the UFO crowd’s view, with Roswell and reverse-engineering captured ET craft, which is what Adam’s father worked on before he was murdered by medical means, and what pretty much was the primary message of the Disclosure Project witnesses. Of course, Godzilla took out a bunch of key Disclosure Project players in the 1990s with some of the diabolical technologies at his disposal:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

They may have used their mind-and-emotions-scrambling technology on me during my NEM days, just before Mallove was murdered and right after the NEM conference. Brian O’s buddy John Mack was killed the day after the conference ended, which further spurred Brian’s move to South America:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#mack

Those days are not fun to recall, but were easy compared to my days with Dennis.

What my friend was shown is almost certainly a sampling of Godzilla’s Golden Hoard:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

and my friend does not even believe in UFOs. When you digest enough of the alternative physics and cosmology, you learn to navigate it. There is lots of invalid stuff out there, but plenty to make people think. LaViolette is one of many who have created an internally-consistent cosmological model, which incorporates a unified field concept which is based on what he calls “etherons.” Einstein, the so-called killer of the ether, actually discussed the need for an ether in a talk he gave in 1920 at the University of Leyden (titled, “Ether and the Theory of Relativity”).

LaViolette was not content with describing a new unified field theory, but also took on catastrophic theory (his Earth Under Fire makes the case that the explosion of the Milky Way Galaxy’s galactic core is what caused those ancient catastrophes) and even ancient mystery school teachings (his Genesis of the Cosmos) and alchemy. Although his theories are obviously deeply thought out and provocative, I won’t be traveling too much of that territory in my upcoming energy essay. Standard physics can explain most of what I will be presenting, but I also will be giving a nod to the idea that the orthodox physics models are woefully inadequate, and FE is partly what the orthodox physics models paint entirely out of the picture, and there is certainly a “conspiratorial” reason for that, namely Godzilla’s interest in managing the global herd, and anything that threatens to upend the orthodox physics models is harshly dealt with if the theorist ever tries to use it to do something like make an FE prototype.

Sparky Sweet wrote a book to describe how his device worked,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

and you can get a video of it in action:

http://www.cheniere.org/sales/sweetvideos.htm

As usual, as you can see it generating a million times the energy going into it, several times a “proprietary technology” message flashes on the screen. That was one of many aspects of Sparky’s approach that doomed his efforts, but no lone inventor has a prayer in the current environment.

The FE series from Bearden’s gang runs to 30 DVDs so far:

http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/DVDListforpurchase.htm

I have several of them, the Sparky-related ones mostly. Brian O visited Sparky in his hiding place the week before he died of a “heart attack,” after the final death threats were delivered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sparky

Anyway, for the scientifically-minded, there is lifetimes of that stuff to explore, but for me, unless it helps paint the big picture of what is happening right now, and what the potential is if that stuff makes it past the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia, I am not going to be going there much in my work.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th May 2012, 05:16
Hi:

Again, I need to center this thread on my intentions. I wrote this essay during my midlife crisis years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

If I rewrote it today, the tenor would be different, but the primary message would be the same. I do not know of a more involved conundrum on Earth than that one. Virtually nobody has ever constructively engaged the issue in it many facets. That essay was kind of an embryonic version of this essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

written nearly three years later, when my midlife crisis was finally behind me. That essay is what brought Brian O fully back into my life. It might be my favorite essay on my site. It was written in response to some entreaties that I was getting to become involved with some activists. That essay kind of blew them away, and they went away. Nearly four years later, the essay that I am working on I intend to take to another level, one that I have not achieved on my site yet. I may fail, but I have to try.

But, my point is that those essays are distillations of what I learned in the free energy trenches, and while interacting with the milieu in subsequent years in less intense fashion. The basic lessons that I learned were during my days with Dennis in the 1980s. The rest is really just frosting. I have my doubts that I can teach what I learned, but I can try. When you play at those levels, you get a radically different perspective about how the world works. If not for my days with Dennis, I would probably not have much worth saying. As it is, my primary message should be obvious, but here it is again.

1. Humanity is about to crash the planet, largely because of energy scarcity. I don’t know about you, but I do not want to have that happen while I live here.

2. That planet-threatening energy scarcity is artificially enforced, because keeping energy scarce keeps a tiny fraction of humanity in control of the world economy, and hence, humanity.

3. The dark faction of the global elites do not really care too much if they crash the planet, and those people have survival enclaves built, and the more ambitious of them have plans to terraform Mars if they make Earth inhabitable. However, not all of them think that way, and most actually favor free energy coming forward, but they are not about to openly defy the dark faction, not yet.

4. The same dark faction has defeated all efforts to bring energy abundance to humanity (and I am talking about tens of thousands of efforts), and the best of the suppressed technologies would bring not only energy abundance to humanity, at levels barely imagined, but they also do it with no environmental impact. Heaven on Earth could easily come from the enlightened implementation of free energy and related suppressed technologies, such as antigravity.

5. I was a key player in several attempts to break through the organized suppression, and it was the education of ten lifetimes. It was a rather rough ride, however, and I don’t want to try that route again; also I saw how easily defeated such efforts were, even though the efforts that I was a part of constitute some of the most “successful” efforts made so far, so we received extra-special suppression treatment, and I will always be recovering from it.

6. I eventually went my own way on the free energy front. My goal was always the same – Heaven on Earth – but my approach to the problem evolved over the years to this “choir” idea that I will be trying to get going before long.

7. I have never heard of anything like it, and it was partly intended to fill a hole that I saw in all free energy efforts – an engaged and aware public – so I have spent all of my “spare” time for the past twenty-plus years since I got my clock cleaned performing the research, writing and editing that became my site today, to begin to fill that gap, as well as several years of full-time effort.

8. I have no idea if what I am intending will work, but it beats watching TV. It has essentially become a lifetime project of mine. I have seen what doesn’t work, and what can wreck and prematurely end lives, and I am going to do my best to steer people away from those deadly reefs, but the orientations of almost all visible aspirants are wrapped up in the technological end of it, which really is not the important part, and they invariably advocate doomed strategies that have literally been tried thousands of times before without success.

9. I strongly doubt that free energy is going to come to the world via coercion, inventor-heroes, capitalist means, or the other approaches that I call Levels 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6). I have been a part of several Level 10 efforts, and have watched many others try the other levels, and I am trying for what I call a Level 12 approach, which is rooted in love and comprehensive thinking. None of the paths are easy, not for something that will determine the near-term and possibly long-term fate of humanity and the planet’s ecosphere, but the Level 12 approach is not asking anybody to risk their lives, and all the other levels do, even if it may not seem like it to the casual observer.

That is my primary message and my intention, and we will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th May 2012, 14:28
Hi:

I have been cramming my noggin lately with a bunch of scientific information. Scientists remark on the problem regularly, about how the scales that they deal with are so foreign to human experience that they can be hard to imagine, whether it is a billionth of a second or a billionth of a meter, when investigating the dynamics of atoms, or a billion years when investigating Earth’s geophysical dynamics, or the mind-boggling idea of light-years when dealing with astronomical investigations.

Like it or not, they are the scales of distance and time that scientists deal with, and it really is challenging to think in terms like that and go about our daily lives. But scientists do it. Just this morning, I was thinking about what I have been asking my readers to do, and it is a similar exercise, but perhaps even more mind-stretching. Abundance has never really been the human experience before:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

When people have experienced relative abundance, it was never the real thing, because it was always based on burning through finite energy resources, such as the “golden age” of the hunter-gather, as they quickly drove nearly all the large animals on Earth to extinction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

or today’s industrial era, where we are burning up fossil fuels about a million times as fast as they were created:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#_edn6

The temporary “high” that comes from quickly burning through energy resources is not abundance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

However, the rising standard of living that has come with industrialization points to changes in the human condition that we need more of, such as:

1. The liberation of slaves and women;

2. The end of rank exploitation of children;

3. The rise in literacy.

The energy-rich nations no longer need to exploit their forests the way that poor nations do, but I am all too aware that much of that dynamic has to do with simply exporting environmental devastation to those poor nations. The dynamic has always been about energy scarcity at its root, and my upcoming essay is intended to make that connection very clear. In order for people to understand, they need to have some kind of idea how the world really works, and that means some kind of scientific understanding, and that may be the hard part for most of my readers. In some ways, it will be like trying to imagine those time-and-distance scales that scientists deal with, but what has proven to be the most difficult feat of imagination yet is to simply imagine a world based on abundance, and I mean real abundance. So far, almost nobody on the planet can even imagine it, and if they glimpse it, they immediately bury it in all manner of scarcity-based accoutrements, which means that they have yet to understand.

I don’t know how successful I will be in helping people imagine abundance, but I know that if we can’t even imagine it, we sure aren’t going to pursue it, and I found that that is the greatest triumph of the Global Controllers (AKA, the Big Boys, Godzilla http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc). The truly crazy part is that they have had the means for energy abundance for longer than I have been alive, but they use their position to ensure that nobody else on the planet gets any. They have the means for abundance in their hands, but the evil games that they play would be finished if humanity lived in abundance. It can be sanity-threatening to become aware of the how the land really lies, and most who are exposed to the situation fall into the potholes of conspiracism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

or the various levels of denial that await:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

so that they do not need to face reality, and the reality is that we are all creators and have a hand in this situation, and creators create with love. If we keep our heads stuck in the sand much longer, playing our games of denial and fear, it is going to be game over for the human species, and we will take most of the biosphere with us. To me, that would be an immensely tragic waste of our potential, as well as a crime against Earth and her denizens that will haunt our souls for a very long time, and I am seeing what I can do to shift humanity’s paradigm from one based on scarcity to one based on abundance. If we do, Heaven on Earth could be just around the corner:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I don’t kid myself that the people capable of that shift today are standing on every street corner. So far, my journey has informed me that such people who might be able to make the leap are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population, and I am aiming for something far more modest, a mere 0.0001% of the global population.

The Internet is providing me an opportunity to try to find enough of them to form a nugget of heart-centered sentience that just might be able to catalyze the transition to abundance. I don’t know if it will work, but I have to try. The attempt is worth one man’s life, I think, and I have been happy to pay the price, but do not want to become another free energy martyr, and do not want anybody who I influence to become one either. Enough of that blood has already been shed.

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

WhiteFeather
16th May 2012, 14:43
Wade, Thank You for all the amazing work you are doing. Your research is fantastic and inspiring to say the least. I hope you accomplish what your intentions are set out for in The FE Field. Im sure you will. The Light is just up ahead. Namaste bro.

Ilie Pandia
16th May 2012, 16:58
Hello Wade,

Every time I read this I shake my head:



1. The liberation of slaves and women;

2. The end of rank exploitation of children;

3. The rise in literacy.


While I think I understand what you're hinting at (more energy available leading to a higher standard of life), those 3 examples don't really cut it for me.

The liberation of slaves and women has been replaced with "employment". That is still a form of slavery, much more subtle and much more easy to control and manage. Yes, now the master is no longer that obvious, you can see your boss is just as slave as you, but we really still are slaves of energy scarcity. Even you say you use your "free time" to post at Avalon, instead of using your "free time" to go to work. I'd say free humans don't talk about free time (another thing that will go obsolete: free time).

In a sense employment is much worse than slavery because we've been tricked to accept it as "OK", as a "higher standard of living"... I think you will agree that from an abundance point of view that is non-sense.

The end of rank exploitation of children. I guess that has changed a little, but only in highly "developed" countries. Exploitation of children being exported now to the poor countries. So not really "evolved" either. And this gets me to "the rise in literacy"... the perfect tool for Godzilla to trap our minds! Yes, we can read and write, and I got a chance to learn English and be here now, but boy did I have to go through a mountain of conditioning. I really consider myself lucky to have rose my nose out of the books an look around a bit at the real world, or the books they don't tell you about in school.

The rise in literacy is the tool that whipped clear our ability to imagine abundance (or anything else for that matter) and now we are more used to let others to the thinking for us and the imagining. To be told what is possible or not in our dreams. What is OK to dream about. Even in this case we have become consumers and victims, instead of creators.

I think that in a Free Energy world, the 3 concepts you mention above would look so radically different than today, that we could hardly draw a parallel. We did not evolve, we just got more.... refined... more subtle at playing the intellectual games that "We are free and wise" :)

Limor Wolf
16th May 2012, 17:42
Whitefeather, I think that many of the readers of this thread, feel the same way about Wade's work. there is something that just emits the right frequency, and it is fantastic indeed! it is like a magnet that attracts the right flies.



Originally posted by Wade: " I don’t know how successful I will be in helping people imagine abundance, but I know that if we can’t even imagine it, we sure aren’t going to pursue it"


"The attempt is worth one man’s life, I think, and I have been happy to pay the price, but do not want to become another free energy martyr, and do not want anybody who I influence to become one either. Enough of that blood has already been shed."

Wade, your approach, I feel, has many simillarities to that of David Icke, especially on Bill Ryan's 'Brother in arms' video, mainly between 11:30 till 15:00 minutes, but please do not volunteer yourself to be yet another victim of a failing system.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lXEATXNgg


What Wade is trying to do here totaly makes sense. this is the way our world really works, although it was hidden from us so far, and we acted like blind drivers on the road, leaving many caualties to lay on the sides, we simply did not know what kind of power we have. The power of creation. But, with a focused awarness and an eagerness to assist our amazing planet in need ,we - the people, can make FE happen. Moreover, a new harmonius way of living is going to transform our human specie and we will embrace our own great potential that we hold within.


"No more wars, no more bloodshed. peace is the word.."

In tribute to Abie natan and the "Voice of peace" ship that anchored in the territorial water between Israel and Lebanon and broadcasted messages of abundance and peace in the duration of 24 years to all the neighboring 'enemy' countries.

In 1993,the government did not allow Abie to broadcast from the shore, after the ship has gained technical problems and financial debts one after the other. In November the same year the ship was sunk off the coast of Ashdod, and its equipment was donated to the 'Voice of Palestine' station in Jericho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucCn5Qg-udQ

This dream of a one man has brought a change into the world, and so will ours


Love

~^&*~^&*

Limor

WhiteFeather
16th May 2012, 20:55
Whitefeather, I think that many of the readers of this thread, feel the same way about Wade's work. there is something that just emits the right frequency, and it is fantastic indeed! it is like a magnet that attracts the right flies.



Originally posted by Wade: " I don’t know how successful I will be in helping people imagine abundance, but I know that if we can’t even imagine it, we sure aren’t going to pursue it"


"The attempt is worth one man’s life, I think, and I have been happy to pay the price, but do not want to become another free energy martyr, and do not want anybody who I influence to become one either. Enough of that blood has already been shed."

Wade, your approach, I feel, has many simillarities to that of David Icke, especially on Bill Ryan's 'Brother in arms' video, mainly between 11:30 till 15:00 minutes, but please do not volunteer yourself to be yet another victim of a failing system.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lXEATXNgg


What Wade is trying to do here totaly makes sense. this is the way our world really works, although it was hidden from us so far, and we acted like blind drivers on the road, leaving many caualties to lay on the sides, we simply did not know what kind of power we have. The power of creation. But, with a focused awarness and an eagerness to assist our amazing planet in need ,we - the people, can make FE happen. Moreover, a new harmonius way of living is going to transform our human specie and we will embrace our own great potential that we hold within.


"No more wars, no more bloodshed. peace is the word.."

In tribute to Abie natan and the "Voice of peace" ship that anchored in the territorial water between Israel and Lebanon and broadcasted messages of abundance and peace in the duration of 24 years to all the neighboring 'enemy' countries.

In 1993,the government did not allow Abie to broadcast from the shore, after the ship has gained technical problems and financial debts one after the other. In November the same year the ship was sunk off the coast of Ashdod, and its equipment was donated to the 'Voice of Palestine' station in Jericho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucCn5Qg-udQ

This dream of a one man has brought a change into the world, and so will ours


Love

~^&*~^&*

Limor

Love your energy Limor. No pun intended here on this free energy thread. Your a kind and warm soul.

Melinda
17th May 2012, 00:25
Thank you for that post Limor, (and thank you White Feather.)

It is as you said it. We have everything we need, we just need to use it.

What your post, and the segment in the Avalon interview, made me think of is the importance of holding the vision and expanding our conscious awareness of our greater potential. Rather than running at obstacles in a way that results in confrontation with someone with superior artillery, we can step beyond the boundaries that are inherent within that old system; step outside of that 'game' (and the limits it wants us to focus on engaging) and instead imagine a more creative foundation for the way we approach what can be done.

On the occasions I mention FE to people I try to tread carefully; to speak with gentle enthusiasm about its potential uses and positive applications. Planting small seeds, with the aim of inspiring their imagination to believe that what they once thought was out of reach, is in fact possible. In those moments when I see the flickering of new thought in their eyes, and the pause during which it takes hold, it is a source of gladness. I wonder, how will it begin to grow? What will they dream of when they sleep? Will it be a world healed by free-energy where they are able to give and live freely, in a spirit of abundance ? And when they awake and walk into the world, how will their energy have shifted after that dream has processed a new breath, a new light, within their system? My efforts are small steps, but then I think of the thousands of others who are imagining these things, and all people they are talking with, and all the many resulting dreams that occur.

Sometimes I get weighed down by what our planet has endured, but then, I also remember she has a breadth of patience unlike anything I can conceive of in a fearful mind. And I believe that every time we hold the vision, share the vision and honour it from the heart (even without words), she hears us and supports.

All the parties who endeavour to centre this thread (I am only 32 pages in so far) are creating something that holds that vision. The vision that we can imagine something greater than our past. And no matter how long it takes, the seeds of a new vision in this thread are part of a change in our world that is creating something deeply healing, vast in its reach, and generous in spirit.

Thank you Limor, and thank you to everyone here for supporting this picture of a healed, loving world that is abundant for all of us.

CdnSirian
17th May 2012, 01:29
Hello Wade,

Every time I read this I shake my head:



1. The liberation of slaves and women;

2. The end of rank exploitation of children;

3. The rise in literacy.


While I think I understand what you're hinting at (more energy available leading to a higher standard of life), those 3 examples don't really cut it for me.

The liberation of slaves and women has been replaced with "employment". That is still a form of slavery, much more subtle and much more easy to control and manage. Yes, now the master is no longer that obvious, you can see your boss is just as slave as you, but we really still are slaves of energy scarcity. Even you say you use your "free time" to post at Avalon, instead of using your "free time" to go to work. I'd say free humans don't talk about free time (another thing that will go obsolete: free time).

In a sense employment is much worse than slavery because we've been tricked to accept it as "OK", as a "higher standard of living"... I think you will agree that from an abundance point of view that is non-sense.

The end of rank exploitation of children. I guess that has changed a little, but only in highly "developed" countries. Exploitation of children being exported now to the poor countries. So not really "evolved" either. And this gets me to "the rise in literacy"... the perfect tool for Godzilla to trap our minds! Yes, we can read and write, and I got a chance to learn English and be here now, but boy did I have to go through a mountain of conditioning. I really consider myself lucky to have rose my nose out of the books an look around a bit at the real world, or the books they don't tell you about in school.

The rise in literacy is the tool that whipped clear our ability to imagine abundance (or anything else for that matter) and now we are more used to let others to the thinking for us and the imagining. To be told what is possible or not in our dreams. What is OK to dream about. Even in this case we have become consumers and victims, instead of creators.

I think that in a Free Energy world, the 3 concepts you mention above would look so radically different than today, that we could hardly draw a parallel. We did not evolve, we just got more.... refined... more subtle at playing the intellectual games that "We are free and wise" :)

Ilie, I think you're exactly right. Yet -- there are slaves with or without running water and food in the fridge.

Everyday when I turn on my tap I pray that every living being/household will have the hot running water and the food in the fridge and the beautiful garden to nurture their body and soul. I bet you do too.

There is definitely a hierarchy of slaves, and of the educated. Of the non-white males, the women, the children.

I really appreciate the site of Wade's that led me here -- and all the posts on this thread. And this post of yours really got to me.

When I was an employed mom, it felt like child neglect.

When my brilliant child got lost in HS, I told them to test out of there and move on. I figured out the education BS. The child is doing very well now.

And one of my first published writings deals with the exploitation of children, the children down the mines, and their murdered mothers.

Again, I appreciate your post, and all on this thread.

Your post could seem to be a criticism of what Wade wrote, but I know he will get it exactly. The heart behind what you write is clear. Hope I made sense.

Wade Frazier
17th May 2012, 02:47
Hi Ilie:

Yes, those three things that I referred to, that made you shake your head, are only embryonic baby steps in the direction that an abundance-based reality can go. I think that you know that I am driving at, but let me be more explicit, and this will be a preview of my upcoming essay, so thanks for your input.

Sexual reproduction is an ancient “strategy,” and there is still healthy debate in scientific circles as to why it became so successful. One prominent theory is that sexual reproduction allowed for much quicker genetic adaptation to environmental change (and environmental change includes the changes in other life forms that are interacted with, as all life co-evolves with its environment) in more complex life forms. The simpler life forms have methods of adaption not available to more complex life forms, such as shorter generations. Evolutionary biologists refer to sex in two ways. One is spelled in one of my books as “SEX,” which relates to the intermixing of genes from parents, while the other is spelled “sex,” which refers to you know what. One behavior that has had a profound evolutionary impact is called sexual selection, which means biological traits that have been developed by how life forms choose their mates for SEX. Sexual dimorphism, AKA the tendency for the males and females of a species to be different sizes and shapes, is thought to be the result of sexual selection. Larger males and smaller females is the reality for all great apes, including humans, of course. If you study sexuality in nature, it can be a brutal process. In many species, rape is the primary means of SEX, and the great apes are not immune. In orangutans, gorillas and chimpanzees, sexual coercion greatly defines their social organization. With orangutans, the big males are those that females want to mate with, but most males are actually pretty small, about the size of females, without the dramatic secondary sexual characteristics that the big males have. The females do not prefer the “juvenilized” males, but those males want to mate, too, so they rape the females whenever they can. It turns out that orangutans are the “gentlemen” among the great apes in that they don’t kill the infants. Male chimpanzees and gorillas will eagerly kill infants that they know they did not sire. It is thought to be part of the “selfish gene” dynamic, where every gene wants to reproduce, and the host bodies are just ways to propagate genes. One of the jokes in that field is that a chicken is just a way for an egg to reproduce itself. Whatever the case may be, violent domination by males is a primary social organizing principle amongst the great apes, including humans, except for bonobos.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

Bonobos overcame the male penchant for violent domination by sex (spurred by a different economy after gorillas left the area during a global glaciation), and mainly by what we would call lesbian sex, if humans did it. Not only is female-on-female sex the social glue of bonobo society, their societies are female-dominated and almost completely non-violent. Infanticide is greatly reduced in bonobo society, and it is thought to arise from two dynamics: females dominate the society, and the promiscuity of females makes it hard for a male to tell if the offspring is his. Chimpanzee females also have that strategy. There is no doubt among anthropologists that humans, chimpanzees and bonobos have a common ancestor, and studying the apes has been profitable for anthropologists, although the study is really in its infancy. However, anthropologists have seen many clear parallels between human and ape societies, and it has also shed light on “primitive” human organization, which was always male dominated, because of their dimorphic advantages for inflicting violence. The bonobos are the only apes, including humans, where the females have not had a rough ride, and protecting their offspring from males, and getting protection and maternal assistance themselves, has been a female ape goal for millions of years. Infanticide to clear the way for progeny with certain paternity is not unique to apes and monkeys, as predators do it, such as lions.

This abuse of women and children is with us even today, but in our industrialized civilizations, we are much more civil to women and children than at any time in our past, with perhaps the brief exception of the early days of the domestication revolution, when village life and primitive agriculture dominated. Then, the women were able to unite to counterbalance male power, and anthropologists have clearly identified that phase of human civilization, and when Europeans conquered the “primitive” peoples around the world, those at the village-life stage were often matrilineal, with women having a prominent status, although still held to be inferior to men. Anthropologist have never discovered a truly matriarchal society (although mystical information says that it was once so, but there is no physical evidence that has ever been adduced for that claim that I know of), but it is obvious that societies are much nicer for all involved when the predominant dynamic is not males vying for power (although the top-dog males may not like it :) ). The evidence is that women also had it better in the hunter-gatherer phase than they did in advanced agricultural societies, at least relatively, when compared to males, but hunter-gather civilizations are extremely violent, with a third of the men dying violently, with a likely exception being the “golden age” of the hunter-gatherer, at least while the megafauna lasted (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5 ). The hunter-gatherer lifestyle has been extolled by various groups, but it is largely a romantic fantasy. Much about them we would find horrifying, and it would support only a few million people on Earth today.

When civilization “advanced” beyond village life, and more intensive and sophisticated cultivation was practiced, society began to become more stratified. Stratification, however, began with the early days of the domestication revolution. As soon as humans had a local and steady energy supply that resulted in a sufficient agricultural surplus, professions developed, and soldiers, priests, craftsman, and royalty appeared, as well as the two most exploited “professionals” on Earth: prostitutes and slaves. Women’s status universally declined with the advent of the stratified civilizations that were sustained by the ability to create an agricultural surplus that could sustain elites. In every single instance where those civilizations arose, whether it was in Mesoamerica, South America along the Andes, China, the Fertile Crescent civilizations, etc., the pattern was the same:

1. Men clawed their way to the top, usually violently;

2. The religion of the day granted them divine status, and was even invented to confer that status;

3. Those men on top engaged in conspicuous economic consumption as a mark of their status, which included harems and monuments to themselves – the lasting monuments were made of stone.

There are no exceptions discovered so far. I was born with a keen imagination, but my Silva training took it to another level ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva ), and when studying the many events of my researches, sometimes I felt that I was nearly there, and it was often emotionally devastating to study the early slave trade in the New World, for instance, as Europeans inflicted their genocidal reign (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#charleston ). There are few, if any, stratified civilizations that anthropologists have studied that did not have some form of involuntary servitude. Yes, Ilie, we have it today, too. Taxation is a form of involuntary servitude, and you must know quite well how much I deal with the rackets of capitalism, which are all about exploiting its “customers” (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#capitalism ). Exploitation has been a constant in every human civilization for all time, in our world of scarcity. I know of no exceptions, and that is where rich karma can be created! :)

The reasons put forth for the decline in women’s status with the advent of pre-industrial stratified civilizations are several, but it basically comes down to the fact that in societies with readily exploitable labor, it became important to control the ultimate source of that labor. Women’s reproductive rights were always highly constrained in such societies. It was an economic dynamic above all else, as it was for slaves. Economists have even come up with economic models that predict when slavery made sense and when it didn’t. If you could keep the slaves ignorant, which meant illiterate, and ideally they would be born into slavery and never know anything else, so they would be less likely to desire freedom, then you had a good racket going. What that also meant was that the ideal “occupations” for slavery were in places such as mines and plantations, which did not take great, learned skill, but mainly brute force or mindless drudgery. Those dynamics can be seen throughout history, but were clearly evident in Europe’s rape of the world, as it industrialized on the world’s back. That dynamic may have never been more clear than in my great nation, the USA, but it also predated it.

When the Spanish began raping and plundering the New World ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first ), they set themselves up as new lords above the peoples they conquered, essentially replacing the native elites. The Spanish rule was so universally brutal, however, and their diseases helped, that they wiped out the very natives that garnered them their wealth. Even the first rapist of the New World, good ol’ Chris Columbus, could see that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#realize

So, after centuries of genocide, slavery and dispossession, the elites of thirteen British colonies revolted, as they wanted an empire of their own, and the USA was born, with a little help from the French. But it happened at the dawn of the industrial revolution, and most Founding Fathers of my great nation were slave owners ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#fathers ), and for all their impressive rhetoric about the equality of humanity, almost none of them could be convinced to free their slaves.

As fate would have it, what we call New England today was similar to the homeland in the British Isles (although not deforested yet), and England led the industrialization of humanity, and just across the pond, the Americans were not far behind. Those northern climes, so much like home, were the first to industrialize, and they were the first American colonies to abolish slavery. The southern colonies, however, had the plantation economy that made slavery economically feasible, and in the USA, with its great longevity and healthy conditions as they had not wrecked the soils quite yet, they could breed slaves, for the only place in the Western Hemisphere where it could really be accomplished. If a Southern slave learned to read, it was primarily the Bible, which was full of justifications of slavery, so those literate slaves would still know their place. But rising standards of living brought about by the USA’s quick industrialization (of course, largely accomplished by dispossessing the American Indian) made slavery an increasingly anachronistic institution. By 1860, the USA was nearly alone on the world stage with its institution of slavery, but it would not last long.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#civilwar

But being freed was not exactly the ticket to paradise, and the newly-freed blacks of the South had a hard ride, a hard ride that continues 150 years later ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#blacks ). But there is not a black person alive who would tell you that they would prefer to be a slave. Again, as I studied slavery, there were times when I was overwhelmed by the cruel, inhumane nature of that institution.

Yes, our servitude is only semi-voluntary, but it is infinitely better than being somebody’s property.

Literacy is also a mixed bag, Ilie, and I am not sure who makes that point clearer than I do:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded

but I am old enough to have actually known illiterate people when I was young - poor whites raised in the American South. My heart went out to them, but they were intellectually crippled. In some ways, they were like children, even in old age. Industrialized civilization simply would not have happened without being able to record information. Literacy marks the line between civilization and not. All early civilizations had some way to record information. In Mesoamerica, it was pictographic, and along the Andes, it was the still undeciphered quipu. Early records were mostly counting up the king’s tribute, but it did not end there.

In this world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

they may be “illiterate” because it was a primitive way of amassing information that they left behind. But until we can climb into their learning beds and quickly learn more about the human body and health than anybody on Earth does today, we are going to be stuck with these imperfect ways of passing along and ingesting information. If we were not literate, you and I would not have met like this, young man, and I am glad that I did. :) The world’s most illiterate nations are also its poorest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

Did you know, Ilie, that the idea of childhood is actually a fairly recent innovation in the West, brought about by rising standards of living? If I can’t do free energy and I did not have to work for a living, I would have wanted to be an art historian. Studying European painting makes the way that children were seen clear. Not so long ago, children were painted as miniature adults, not children as we think of them today [update August 2012 - this is an area of relatively recent scholarly debate, with Medieval "childhood" resembling today's childhood more than the Victorian Era hellish existence of children - I will be writing about this issue in the future]. In the pre-industrial world, with the thin agricultural surplus always being vulnerable to vagaries of the weather, with the specter of hunger and starvation rampant, societies were rigidly hierarchical. There was not enough energy to fund freedom:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5

Those who clawed their way to the top lived in relative opulence (although the average American has a standard of living greater than the world’s richest king of three hundred years ago), and those down the food chain were supposed to know their place, and at the bottom were slaves, women and children. Children were expected to begin their economically productive lives ASAP. There was no such thing as childhood. This whole idea of living as a child, with no responsibilities other than going to school (yes, Ilie, lots of indoctrination happens there :) http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm ), making your bed, feeding your pets, and joining the adult world as you actually reached adulthood, is a relatively new phenomenon in human civilization. Heck, child labor laws are only about a hundred years old in the USA, coming after women were liberated and the slaves were freed. In performing the research for my essay, one area of research took me into coal mining. Oh my God! The pictures of children sorting coal with their hands in twelve-hour shifts, or coming out of the mines, where they were small enough to work narrow seams, made London’s chimney sweeps (primarily children, because they were small enough to fit) look like they had it easy. Abusing children in a million ways was just part of those days. Heck, my father was born in the Great Depression:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

and began working outside the home at age six delivering newspapers, and sold rabbit skins that he raised, and paid for every scrap of clothing that he wore from age six onward, and began paying rent to his father when he was about fifteen. When Dennis turned thirteen, his migrant-farmer father told him that now that he had reached the ripe old age of thirteen, the family could not afford to feed him anymore, and Dennis was on his own:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

Dennis is only twelve years older than I am. I am a member of the first generation of Americans that actually had what we call a childhood today, and if we don’t solve our energy problems, and fast, the last generation of them may be growing up right now. The brutalities of such “childhoods” are partly why we are such a damaged species, with so many sociopaths in our ranks. A child’s personality is regarded as set by age two or three, if not earlier, and by that age, if they were not held when they cried and treated with unconditional love, the kind that only mothers can really give, they will never be able to trust anybody. Those years are critical for a child’s development, and even our “advanced” societies fall far short of giving them what they really need to grow up in the best way.

Anyway, Ilie, that was a good post, because it spurs me to begin going deep, which my upcoming essay is all about.

Best,

Wade

Dennis Leahy
17th May 2012, 03:32
Every so often I just have to stop reading, and offer the one thing I can: thanks. Thank you, Wade, for your indomitable spirit, your articulate and measured views, and most of all for agreeing to be the 'pied piper' of a new compassionate avenue to unleashing human potential through energy abundance. I am truly honored to hang out with you - even just to "cyber-hang out."

:~)

Dennis

Ilie Pandia
17th May 2012, 04:11
Hello Wade,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I think I can see the "energy dynamics" :)

As you know I live in Romania, and in someway we can be considered "less developed" than US. We look advanced because we have become an open market place for US products (made in China).

But when I look around me here, I still see women having a hard time, and children being born to help with the chores or simply to get the social security checks and the literacy is now mostly "watching TV" and playing violent and bloody games. But in relative terms, the life is easier than say 100 years ago, I just think we as a country are much more dumbed down (or numb may be a better world) than 100 years ago.

Bill did an interview recently at the ECETI Ranch (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45065-Bill-Ryan-visits-James-Gilliland-s-ECETI-Ranch&p=487802&viewfull=1#post487802), and he described an experience that I have over here. He said that while visiting the US he saw the apparent good life: people laughing, (junk) food being readily available, shopping malls packed with people... Humans thinking they live in paradise (while exporting their problems to the less fortunate countries). He then said that underneath that "happy surface" there was an emptiness and trouble looming, reminding me of one the worlds that Roads visited, where a "happy hologram" and artificial auras were projected over a sick world.

I guess what I am trying to say is that virtually no one will wake up to the potential of Free Energy if they think they live in paradise :). Not only that, but they will fight to protect this paradise as they know it :biggrin:

How many really wonder where does their oil comes from? what is its real price? (And I have a feeling that in US most think they deserve that cheap oil and would go to war for it....)

Wade Frazier
17th May 2012, 04:50
Hi:

Quickly, before I go to bed…

It is an honor to interact with you, Dennis.

Hi Ilie, yes, that is one of the big downsides of our more comfortable lives, but it can be different, I think. Yes, the average person just plays the game of survival and waits for the bread and circuses tossed their way. That conditioning that you see is sad and insidious, and more than a little engineered. Computer games are almost all of the shooter variety. I don’t have “free time” ( :) ) to play computer games (I had to give them up nine years ago), but I long for the days when games like King’s Quest dominated. There is a method to that madness, and it is not easy to go against the flow. The needles in haystacks that I am looking for will always be going against the flow. They are going to be considered freaks by those around them, and that is how it is.

I think it was Ernie who said that people are sold cheap garbage in their educations and told it is the good stuff. Most of what we are taught, in virtually all disciplines, is largely hogwash.

Oh yeah, the USA is a very sick nation. I’ll not argue against that, and Brian O remarked on it in his last years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#last

We can’t inflict endless genocides on nations that have what we want as we steal it, and not have a bit of cognitive dissonance. The promise and failures of the USA are prodigious. As you can tell at Avalon, most who interact with me are not Americans.

Actually, for somebody who has to live on Earth, my life is hard to beat, but I am pursuing FE, at least in a roundabout way. :) It is heading toward Hell on Earth, and none of wants to see how bad it can get, but what must inspire the “choir” is the desire to make it Heaven on Earth, not trying to avoid Hell on Earth, although both are lodged into my awareness, and that may not be avoidable.

You are right in that almost nobody thinks where their oil comes from, etc. The problem, at its root, is that we are an egocentric herd animal that has been conditioned by economic scarcity forever. Can we break out into becoming soul-centered, sentient beings whose hearts are awake? Do we really want to? I am trying to find out.

I don’t have time to listen, but did Bill get a UFO show at James’s place?

Beautiful post, CdnSirian.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
17th May 2012, 05:02
He did not get an UFO show while on air (phone range too limited), but he did get a show the first time he was to the ECETI ranch. And according to his interview, spectacular shows are the norm there every night. Most frequent visitors don't even bother taking photos any longer :)

Limor Wolf
17th May 2012, 07:24
Interesting to read Your exchange of thoughts Wade and Ilie, which emphasize on both sides of any one situation. Is this modern life that we are living in in this twenty-first century can be considered an advancment? I think the answer is : it is , as well as it isn't.

In terms of comfort and means, yes, we are advancing (on the account of other parts of the world), However, morally wise, we are stuck with the same surivavl mode, unable or unwanting to raise our heads and see what is going on with the neighbor, not to mention even care about it. Human history for the last thousands of years (the homo sapience version) is looking as if it is going somewhere, It is surely far more technologically capable. However, a complete freedom was never on the menu and will never be, unless we will find a way to become more 'holographic' in our nature and les hierarchic.

Wade Frazier
17th May 2012, 13:07
Hi Limor:

You are zeroing in on one of the primary contentions in my work, which I intend to make very clear in my upcoming essay. Stratified societies have always been rooted in economic scarcity, which is in turn rooted in energy scarcity. This goes back to the dawn of civilization. Urban environments are the product of economic scarcity, which is due to energy scarcity. Cities are mainly energy concentrating devices. With decentralized and democratized free energy, and related technologies that are also suppressed such as anti-gravity and advanced materials and computing technology (with robotics which are probably advanced to a degree that would astonish us), the tools exist to make an economically abundant, environmentally harmless civilization. Urban environments would largely become obsolete.

But scarcity is baked deeply into our societies, in gross and subtle ways. Economic scarcity is so deeply ingrained into people’s psyches that it is like the air they breathe. It took me many years to realize that people were addicted to scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

It took me a little longer to realize that all of the dominant ideologies are based on the assumption of scarcity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#crutch1

With those sick ideologies forming the foundation for virtually all human thought systems, no wonder the world is such a mess, and vices like greed get made over into virtues:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed

and people gorge themselves with “comfort” food (AKA sweet and fat foods) if they get a chance, and get doped up on all manner of stimulant. Today, we stand at a branch in the road. We are already well on our way to turning it into Hell on Earth, but I found that that is almost entirely because people think that there is no viable alternative to rape-and-plunder economics (the zero-sum-game assumption). Well, I know that there is. Again, I do not consider these two possible futures to be fantasy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and have spent a long time pondering them. The denizens of the first chose greed and indifference, and live in a nightmare world. The other chose love, and a Disney cartoon could not do it justice. We can start heading toward that heavenly world today, if enough of us woke up, discarded our scarcity-based conditioning and dared to imagine abundance. I know from many years of experience that almost nobody can currently do it. Not many even want to, as they have dug into their niches of hell and won’t budge. I strongly suspect that they will only begin to wake up when free energy is delivered to their homes, the Ascended Masters show up, or the ETs land on the White House lawn. I am not waiting for some hero to come save the day, but am looking for those needles in haystacks who are brave enough to let go of their conditioning and simply imagine abundance. That is far harder than it might appear at first glance. I have almost never seen anybody achieve it. When they get a glimpse of it, it actually frightens them, because at some level they know that the world as they know it will end, so they prefer the devil they know. You may have to see it to believe it, but my fellow travelers and I had it rubbed in our faces for many years. It is not fun to admit the truth, but it can set us free and prevent us from wasting our time, operating from false assumptions of how everybody just wants to make the world a better place. Most don’t, not really. They are just trying to survive in their niches of hell. If free energy was delivered to their homes, might they start to wake up? I think it is possible, and that is probably the big experiment that I am trying to perform.

Thanks Ilie. My first show was good enough for me! :)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

Best,

Wade

Melinda
17th May 2012, 22:33
Ilie, I think you're exactly right... ...Again, I appreciate your post, and all on this thread.


I totally agree CdnSirian. I'm only a third of the way through this thread (which is reconfiguring on many levels for me) and every post is giving me further insight, many times making me question things I hadn't thought to previously. Thank you everyone.

Lifebringer
17th May 2012, 22:53
I plan on getting off the grid at least as far as my pc, but buying a solar bookbag charger that will take me off for the long hrs of the day during peek hrs. I will also consider perhaps two or three of them to power other equipment. Some of them can store a lot of power for up to 16 hrs. A biofuel generator and a bookbag, just may be the future besides a camping grill or two. I fish and can grow and store dry goods, so might as well save a few hundred per year, and stop giving Dominion Virginia Power all my hard earned loot. They didn't convert to the solar power or wind with 30 years of tax breaks, so I guess they have no intention of doing so. WE the people must reject their pollution devices, and network our power/energy inventions and market them ourselves. Self sufficiency and efficiency is the goal.

Wade Frazier
18th May 2012, 15:00
Hi:

Before I go to work…

Hi Lifebringer:

This is a different conversation than about getting off the grid, although I certainly understand the sentiment. The electric companies wrecked my life, and it causes a special kind of pain when I write my monthly check to the very same company that ran us out of town in 1986:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

But this thread is not about the electric companies, other than making them all obsolete, as well as the oil, coal and gas companies, and nuclear reactors. That is my game.

OK everybody, on the subject of civilizations, there are two primary theories of why people invented civilization and stay in them. These two theories go back to the Classic Greeks and Confucius. The first is that civilization provides benefits that dispersed people cannot. The agricultural surplus allowed humans to begin to develop other skills than procuring food, and professions developed. Humanity’s collective skillset increased, and material benefits accrued that uncivilized life could not provide. The other theory is that the concentrated wealth that civilization provided was not enough for everybody, so the greedier, cleverer, and most power-hungry could indulge their predilections and get in control and become elites. Those dynamics are still relevant.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#theories

All civilization came about by the ability to generate excess energy to support people who did not spend their energy procuring food. As agricultural surpluses grew due to improving technology and techniques, urban centers could grow. At a certain level, the elites could indulge their aspirations, and they had the religion of the day designate them as divine rulers, and they set about commandeering the local labor to create what anthropologists call monumental architecture. The monumental architecture always had the aggrandizement of the elites as its primary purpose, whether they were lavish tombs, the commemoration of battle victories, or the representation of natural “deities,” such as the sun, but the elites were the mortal representatives of those divine entities, and their lavish graves were primarily about reinforcing their divine status with the commoners. Even in a secular state like the USA, the president is treated like royalty, with his own jet airliner and a tremendous retinue.

With free energy, there is enough energy for everybody, and with all the other suppressed technologies that I am aware of, urban environments largely become obsolete. The point of this post is that when I mention this, my sophisticated city-dweller friends and relatives immediately leap to false conclusions. They think that we would all become isolated hillbillies. That is definitely not what I am referring to, but that is typical of the kinds of knee-jerk reactions that I constantly encounter. With the technologies that I am aware of today, some even in the public domain, such as our global communication infrastructure, that I am using with this post (:)), nobody needs to live in a city to obtain the benefits of civilization. The world can look like this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=330505&viewfull=1#post330505

Today, I live in an urban environment where I rub shoulders with the world’s richest man (at least officially! :) )

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

and out my office window, way up in the air in my skyscraper, I can see majestic mountains that I am going to hike in this afternoon, in the incredible spring foliage. I attached a picture from one of last week’s hikes. That waterfall that you see in that photo can’t be seen except from the trail. My friend and I owned it last Saturday morning.

As glorious as it is (my favorite hiking mountain is less than fifteen miles from my home, and it is in the background of the second picture attached, in the distance - I can easily walk to that lake from my house), polls of people who live here make it clear that everybody would rather live in a pastoral setting, but have access to urban amenities. That was the whole point of suburbia. But with free energy and related technologies, the entire paradigm would shift. Not only would all of the scarcity-based ideologies quickly become obsolete:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

what we today call “civilization” would quickly be seen as barbaric living, even for the world’s richest man. Just as the average American lives at a far higher standard of living than Earth’s richest king of three hundred years ago, the average person in an FE-based society would live at far higher levels that Bill Gates does. Gates does not flaunt his wealth and status, which is one of the refreshing aspects of the high tech revolution, but in an FE-based civilization, the idea of elites becomes obsolete. In that hellish world that Roads visited, even though they were technologically-advanced, they certainly did not have FE available (the suppression of abundance-based technologies was still happening there) and had elites who lived like gods, unless you peeled away the veneer, like Roads’s mentor did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

The heavenly world actually had urban environments, but they were highly integrated with nature, and I’ll bet that nobody spent any time commuting to “work” in traffic jams, being cooped up in nature-less cities, and the rest of today's urban life. They could visit the “wilderness” in an instant, or their farms, or their schools, and they had a symbiosis with nature that is frankly beyond the most vivid imaginings of any of us on Earth today. Roads only glimpsed that world, and it was all made possible because people chose love:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

As some have stated, ideas like “free” and “abundance” probably had little meaning in that world, because “not-free” and scarcity did not exist to compare it to, so concepts like money, free, scarce, abundant, hierarchical, elites, and even fear pretty much went away, or in order to experience and understand them, you had to visit other realities. I like to think that those people had ready access to those other realities, and memories of how it was before their Heaven-on-Earth days. It was not at the forefront of their minds, not by any means, but the information was available whenever they wanted it, to show them what fear and scarcity were like. The denizens of those realities chose them for reasons (like everybody on Earth today :) ), but the lessons can be learned and we can move beyond them, which is really what I am attempting to do, if we get right down to the nub of the matter. Without the means to abundance, which is abundant and clean energy above all else, we aren’t going to get there. But with humanity’s inertia, that is baked by thousands of years of scarcity, and the organized suppression of the hyper-elites, who can only see their position disappearing, and the most powerful of them would rather destroy the planet rather than lose their perceived “power” (and even the Left says that http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#jfk), it is no easy trick to get us moving in that direction. The lone rangers of FE have proven to be easily picked off, one-at-a-time, no matter how noble their intentions. I was partners with the greatest of them that I ever saw or heard of, so that entire path sure seems like a dead-end in the current environment, and I found that virtually everybody who disagrees with me has zero experience on the high road, where billion dollar bribes, murder attempts, and prisons stints comprise the daily reality.

I eventually decided to try a different path, one that could fill a huge gap that I saw in all efforts (an aware and engaged public), and I am doing what I can to amass that nugget of heart-centered sentience that just might be able to help make it happen, and my site comprises baby steps in that direction, as do my Avalon efforts. The big effort is ahead of me, but after I lay my egg of an essay, it really will be up to the rest of the world to begin to understand the issues and do the work to achieve the level of awareness that might be able to make a dent (although I will try mightily to help, everybody who is going to get there needs to do the work – nobody can do it for them), especially if we can unite our awareness on a common goal, and not out of fear and herd-consciousness – that is the old way. The new way will be based on love and a comprehensive awareness of how our world really works, not the delusions of our indoctrination and conditioning. That has never been seen before on Earth, although the ideals of the so-called New Age point to that direction, but today’s version is a sad spectacle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

It is time for the species to grow up and claim its sentience. Anything less will likely spell our doom. Mine is certainly not the only game in town, but I do not know of another like it, which is why I am doing it. It is an experiment whose outcome is not yet decided, and it will be up to all of us to see how it turns out.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
19th May 2012, 11:46
Hey Wade,

Nice pictures. Good to see you out of the office enjoying nature again!

One of the things I notice most when living in big cities like the one I’m in now is how grim the majority buildings look. High rise apartment buildings, high rise office blocks, and cranes dominate the skyline. With high energy costs you get high production and construction costs. Projects using energy intensive high tech raw materials become too expensive to use large scale because they eat away at profit margins. Integrating construction with nature is little more than a nice idea.

I found these charts from Cambridge University showing the relationship between the cost of a raw material, and the energy needed to make it:

http://www-materials.eng.cam.ac.uk/mpsite/interactive_charts/energy-cost/basic.html

The ‘cheap, mid-high energy’ boxes are empty. FE obviously alters the charts so that materials currently of high expense due to their high energy requirements become cheap or even free to produce. Everything shifts to the Y-axis.

When energy is a limiting factor in design and construction, and profit is the sole motivation, all you are gonna ever end up with is an abundance of the kind of buildings that we have today. With energy no longer a limiting factor you are then able to design buildings using whatever materials you wish. Advanced robotics and silent technology powered by FE could replace all of our existing limited technology. Cranes limited by the amount of weight they can move disappear with FE. 1000+ ton stones like the one at Baalbek could be lifted and transported as if they were feathers. I imagine FE powered technology being able to cut through rock with the same ease that a cheese wire cuts through cheese. It would become feasible to construct Pyramids with FE.

It boggles my mind that guys like Trombly have risked their lives in pursuit of FE, have survived numerous murder attempts, and then after all their efforts still have to resort to installing solar panels on their houses. I think I recall you saying that it pained O’ Leary to have to pump gas into his car and I read above about your pain when writing cheques to the electric company. Energy austerity on a massive scale isn’t practical, nor is it the answer to this system of scarcity, but there is no harm in reducing one’s consumption of electricity and fuel wherever possible. As long as we are living in this matrix we are going to be using some form of scarcity based energy either directly or indirectly. Even those that live off the grid still wear clothes, read books, use materials, and may eat certain packaged foods that all required energy derived from fossil fuels or nuclear plants to produce.

Wade Frazier
19th May 2012, 22:44
Hi Tyler:

Nice charts on the energy consumption used to make materials. I have written about it a few times that many exotic materials are also under wraps, and wrote about some of what I know about that awhile back on this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=92348&viewfull=1#post92348

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=93747&highlight=exotic+materials#post93747

With FE and the kind of world that I know can come from it, all materials would be radically different than what we see today. Most materials would be on the high end of those scales and beyond. I think that I mentioned it in my interviews with Scott that the exotic materials are likely energy intensive, which is part of the problem. Also, with FE and related technologies, nothing would obtained by disturbing the ecosphere. For mining raw material, we would likely mine asteroids and other bodies in the solar system. Brian O was an early advocate of that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill

One big asteroid could provide literally all of humanity’s material needs forever, and if there is ore needed from Earth, a relatively tiny hole could be made in the surface, and a much larger one below to mine it out. Because all elements are useful, there would be no mining waste, and the hole could be filled with parts of an asteroid, or what was gathered from the rocky planets or rocky moons. These are all early-stage musings. If the goal was material abundance for humanity at no cost to the biosphere and a respect for Earth, it would be easy to figure out the ideal solutions, and even fun. Human civilization would look nothing like it does today, and nobody would be making loincloths out of tree bark, that’s for sure. :) Cedar bark was used for clothing where I live, a couple hundred years ago.

I have not written it at Avalon before, but when so-called “primitive” hunter-gatherer tribes have encountered civilized peoples, it is not exactly like those movies of the noble savages. There are many instances of the “advanced” peoples wiping out the “primitive” ones, with what Europe did to the world’s natives in its age of “discovery” and “settlement” being the ultimate example:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before

but studies of today’s hunter-gatherers, or the extinct ones that left remains that can be studied, have yielded a great deal of data that calls into question the noble savage archetype. Their tools for hunting became useful for killing humans competing for energy resources (AKA food), and hunter-gatherer societies were often brutal. There was no welfare state – only the strong survived. They were proportionally more violent than today’s world, with around a third of the males dying, usually in skirmishes with other groups. A truly peaceful hunter-gather society has never been found. Wrangham and Peterson’s Demonic Males is a good place to start.

But I sat down to make a post that was a little different, but your post is a nice segue to it. I have been reading plenty of White Science lately, and am reading LaViolette’s fringe stuff right now. In the past several years, I have been reading a great deal of material on evolution, molecular biology, geology, anthropology and the like. I have been hearing about Atlantis since I was a teenager, and have been told that I helped wreck it, and have a bunch of “lost civilization” books and that kind of esoterica. In my old age, I have become increasingly skeptical of claims of technologically-advanced civilizations that vanished, or what we see in “primitive” civilizations and their advanced stonework. I am not saying that there weren’t any, but the evidence is slim, and if there were, they sure did not leave traces like any other human society ever studied. Maybe those civilizations were not quite in this dimension. I don’t know, but there is a great deal about lost continents or lost civilizations that sure don’t square with the evidence, or evidence that you would expect if true, that is simply not there.

Some of those are the tales of Atlantis and Lemuria, in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. Since the theory of plate tectonics came onto the scene, and the current understanding of how the continents formed, it becomes really hard to believe that lost continents once existed. Continents are the result of heavy volcanic rocks getting hydrated with ocean water and eventually becoming so light that they float on Earth’s crust. The granites of the continents are lighter than the volcanic basalts, which is why the continents float. They have been constantly growing, too. Under the oceans, in the middle of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, in particular, are mountain ranges where volcanoes rip the crust’s seams. Those volcanoes are on the edge of the tectonic plates, and that upwelling from the mantle, of which the volcanoes are one of the manifestations, add to the plates and spread them towards the continents that bound the oceans. Those plates cool off and sink as they move toward the continents, and those plates sink as they meet the continents. They are called subduction plates, and they ring the Pacific in particular, and subduction plates cause the biggest earthquakes, such as the recent Indonesian and Japan quakes. So, upwelling in the mid-oceans, subduction of the growing plates under the continents where the hydrated plates are recycled, which end up with volcanoes that produce lighter rock, so the continents continue to grow.

Those are well-established dynamics, and the slow movement of the continents is easily measured, and by measuring the magnetic alignment of lava rocks, geologists can tell the rocks’ orientation to Earth’s magnetic fields, and tell what its position was on Earth when the lava formed. Those processes that produce mountain ranges are unique in our solar system, and landmarks like the Emperor Seamount chain, of which the Hawaiian islands are merely the latest in the 80 million years of volcanic island formation, as Earth’s crust has moved over a “hot spot” in the mantle, gives solid evidence of very long-term geological processes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Seamounts

The movement of the hot spot can be measured, and it correlates with the timeframe of movement and the dating of the volcanoes. It is an example of several lines of independent evidence converging to produce the picture seen today. Given what is known of these geological processes, disappearing continents seem highly unlikely. But if those lost continents happened in another dimension or a parallel Earth, it would be easier to understand.

There is a mountain of other evidence that also weighs against the idea of lost continents or technologically-advanced ancient civilizations. One thing is for sure if they really existed in our dimension: they acted nothing like the human race as we know it. The human journey has been altering ecosystems from the beginning, beginning when our ancestors learned to control fire, which may have been millions of years ago, although the standard view today is that they learned it “only” several hundred thousand years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn4

Wherever humans have appeared in the past 50,000 years, the large animals quickly went extinct. Also, humans brought along their own animals in the domestication phase, which became invasive species and often thrived in the new environs, where they had no natural predators or could take advantage of plants and animals that had no defense against them. So, if Lemuria or Atlantis really existed on this plane, they did not appear to introduce any of their plants and animals anywhere else on the planet, even accidentally. They were either fastidious in ways that we can barely imagine, they did not exist on our plane, or they never visited any other parts of the planet.

Take New Zealand, for instance. They shot The Lord of the Rings there, partly because of the incredible scenery to be had there. With the dynamics of plate tectonics, it is now thought that New Zealand was isolated from all other land masses for tens of millions of years. Australia and South America had marsupials and other animals that were decidedly different than the mammals that dominated the other continents, such as the platypus. South America was joined to North America a few million years ago, and the North American animals ended up dominating South American ecosystems, such as elephants invading. The marsupials were the big losers in that land bridge forming, but one marsupial, the opossum, did OK and migrated to North America.

Because birds can fly across oceans, New Zealand and the Pacific islands were dominated by birds, and it became quite spectacular in New Zealand. Birds occupied all the ecological niches taken up by mammals and other classes of animals on the continents. The world’s largest bird, the Moa, lived there. The giant Moa stood twelve feet tall and laid several pound eggs. Its only predator was the world’s largest eagle.

They disappeared in about a century after the arrival of the Maoris, as did dozens of other bird species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_New_Zealand_animals#Birds

When Europeans arrived several centuries later, the ecosystems had been altered beyond recognition. The Maoris brought domesticated animals with them during their Polynesian expansion, mainly, but unintended animals also came with them, rats in particular, and rats ended up helping to drive many species to extinction, including the huge palms trees that greeted the original settlers of Easter Island. Rats are an example of an invasive species that was wildly successful and ended up wiping out many native species (eating bird eggs was another way that they wreaked havoc). So, in New Zealand, there is no evidence of disruptive invasive species before the Maoris arrived. So, the Atlanteans and Lemurians either never visited or had zero impact, for the first humans to ever travel that lightly. Also, they traveled so lightly that they left no trace of their existence, other than highly conjectural interpretations of ancient writings and artifacts such as crystal skulls. If there were highly-advanced cultures and they lived for long on Earth, it is hard to imagine that they would have stayed in one place, as is theorized by LaViolette and others. The Nile provided the ancient world’s most reliable food source, with the annual silt deposited by the Nile, and the irrigation water that it provided. Only a pre-industrial civilization would be so dependent on a river like the Nile, and the fringe theories that have dated Egyptian civilization to tens of thousands of years old have some pretty large issues to overcome to make a convincing case. From what I have seen, the evidence is very thin, and a great deal of it rests on the monumental architecture, and it is not confined to Egypt, but all over the world.

The monumental architecture across the world nearly invariably glorified the elites of those civilizations. What survived was made of stone. Most of the theorizing that it was all made with advanced technology is rooted in disbelief that ancient people could cut the stone, move it, and place it so precisely. But there is a great deal of that kind of precise stonework in preindustrial and pre-metal-smelting societies. Hughe once posted a clip on some:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=429757&viewfull=1#post429757

and there is far more. The Romans had cement quality that was not equaled again in the West until the industrial era, which is one reason why their ruins have lasted so long. The real objection to the stonework being performed by primitive peoples is how they could cut it without technology similar to today’s. In Egypt, there are pictographs on how they did some of it. Scientists are indeed impressed with the stonework found across the world, and there is still mystery about how some of it was accomplished, but call me skeptical that anybody needs to invoke alien or Atlantean technology in order to accomplish it. All manner of artifact has been discovered in graves, even going back to flowers in Neanderthal graves, many metal artifacts have survived quite well in graves, and those made of glass, shells, etc. No grave good has ever been discovered that I heard of that had something really out of place in it, that would have pointed to advanced technology, advanced beyond what the era would have provided. When fringe archeologists aver that they have found 200,000 year old advanced civilization ruins, and so on, the findings never quite hold up. The “skeptics” don’t always play fair; I have had too much experience with them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

But their hack jobs are easy to deconstruct, in my experience. But for many claims of ancients advanced civilizations, the evidence just does not line up, and as I have been diving into a lot of “White Science,” I have seen it add up over the years to where the lines of evidence just doesn’t support these alternative narratives, even vaguely. They make for good speculation, but they are just that. There is a ton of circus and distraction out there that takes the focus off of what is important, here, and now. There is no arguing against the fact that we are trashing the biosphere at unprecedented rates, and those chickens are beginning to come home to roost. That is the big stuff. The rest really does not mean a whole lot, not in the big picture.

When fringe claims are backed up with technology that achieves the “impossible,” such as Rife’s and Naessens’s microscopes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

or demonstrations of FE technology, as Sparky and Adam did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-starchild-program-zero-point-energy-part-1.html

then they have something worth paying attention to, and they all had very rough rides because of their technologies.

There is plenty of mystery in the world, Godzilla is real and plenty is being covered up, but in these fringe circles, disinformation is continually recycled, like with the moon landings:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

Discernment is greatly needed. We really need to get past the circus and distraction if we are going to get anywhere on the “fringes,” energy is the keystone resource of life on Earth and the world economy, and it has always been that way. Until we get that one resolved, the rest won’t matter.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
20th May 2012, 12:52
Hi Wade,

You really crushed the "conspiracism" and "ancient civilization" theories in your last post :).

Call me a romantic, but I really love a good mystery an some "unknown past" events over your pretty linear (and boring :P) history of humanity.

If I got it right, you're mainly saying that humans wreaked havoc where ever they showed up, and so if ancient civilizations did exist, they were nothing like us in their pattern of behavior. I guess that is good point. Another good point is that the alleged "advanced civilizations" did some pretty stupid things, like staying in one place even though they would have had the means and energy to travel around.

However, I cannot help but "speculate" that we don't know much about the "nature of our reality" and the "nature of our consciousness", and the white science is merely beating around the bush pretending that it has everything lined up with a continuous line of evidence to support its theories.

I became very skeptic about the white science, ever since I've discovered its "religion like" pattern. If something goes against the main stream is ridiculed and ignored, instead of applying the "scientific method" to it. Summary dismissal does not appear right, even if the claim looks ridiculous at first glance. Some (archeological) evidence is also being actively suppressed, with inconvenient artifacts going missing over night. Building a mountain of evidence to support a main stream theory when you have all the founding and the conclusion you need to get at served to you, seems rather easy. Trying to amass some evidence against the current with no funding does not seem fair... (this looks a lot like the medical racket and their never ending pursuit of a cancer cure when that was in their face all along...)

Of course this does not mean that the fringes are correct, but the fringe has it's purpose to ask the tough questions! To keep pointing at the flaws in the white science, at the ignored evidence. Just a few short years ago I thought free energy was hilarious and who ever was talking about it proved a serious lack of scientific understanding of how stuff works... (So, too much white science in your diet lately?:))

That being said, I agree with you, that this is not the important stuff. At this time two things I find to be of most importance, and I have a feeling they go hand in hand: free energy and "awareness of self". Not sure which comes first, but for now "awareness of self" seems more easy to tackle :biggrin:, and it helps with not being derailed by other stuff.

Wade Frazier
20th May 2012, 14:50
Hi:

Great post, Ilie. FYI, Ilie considerately PM-ed me this message first, because he did not want to “derail” this thread, but I thought that it was a great post and encouraged him to publish it. Provocative posts like his spur me to go deep, and we need to take these conversations deeper, and after I publish my essay, deep is going to be all that I am interested in, so we can raise the level of conversation to where the choir can begin to form.

I have done battle with the “skeptics,” and they can be a highly dishonest crowd:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

Mr. Skeptic has stalked me on the Internet since 1997, and may well be on the payroll:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#skeptic

I have written at length about the medical racket and its gangster activities:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice

Brian O was a pretty credible spokesman for FE suppression, and he almost lost his life over the UFO issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

Adam Trombly is out there, talking up his experiences. There is no arguing that he was an FE wunderkind thirty years ago, giving scientific talks and having his technologies seized by the federal government. He is alive, talking about the many murder attempts that he has survived over the years (he was clinically dead in one of them). I first heard of his treatment from Mark, another name in the field, a physicist who had his experiments seized when he was young and naïve:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392968/pg7

Those are scientific heavyweights, not some fringe theorist trying to debunk plate tectonic theory so that his geological theories align with channeled information. When I relayed Mark’s tale to a very heavyweight scientist who has spent more time weightless than any of us ever will (unless FE makes its appearance), he reached out to a famous physicist whom Mark worked for back then, and the physicist confirmed what happened to Mark. I can pull a bunch of that kind of stuff out of my bag of evidence. For now, those scientists would rather not be on the firing line, so people like me make public statements. For anybody who gets Dennis’s books, they can see that my role in the FE milieu is a lot larger than my public writings let on, and that is because I am trying to protect people. This is a rough stage to stand on, even in a cloistered forum like Avalon.

As I have written many times, my quest has always been a search for the truth and the healing of Earth and humanity. While the heart must wake up the head, IMO, it can be a bewildering journey. Part of the reason for my upcoming essay is to help get non-scientists up to speed, and get them to where they can begin to see the forest from the trees. The energy and medical rackets are Earth’s most lucrative, and energy above all is the engine of the global economy, which is why Godzilla watches that pot more carefully than any other.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

Until people can understand how the world really works, and by that I mean about how our physical world really works, where our food comes from, how a city really works, they easily get spun up on all sorts of stuff that really does not matter in the big picture. And the “fringes” are filled with all manner of trap and snare for the unwary.

The moon landings are a good example. If we really did not go to the moon and it was an elaborate hoax, that would be one hell of a story. My father worked in the Mission Control Room during the space race:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

and my initial interest in fringe claims about the moon landings was not about that they were faked, but that there was a cover-up relating to the astronauts’ experiences on the moon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#neutral

It was only after many claims were made for faked moon landings that I finally did a deep dive on the evidence. It took months of my time, and it was educational. Although the motivation for the USA to make fake landings if they could not really achieve it is a compelling thought, the fact is that none of the evidence presented for faked landings held up to scrutiny. I eventually stumbled into positive evidence that sealed the deal for me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#paydirt

and it impressed Brian, but I was never able to get him over the hump on the moon landings, and am currently trying to find someplace to have his “final word” published on the issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

I am not too happy that that was his final word on the subject, but it was literally his dying wish, so I am going to honor it.

So, while faking moon landings may have some possible motivation by the establishment behind it, none of the evidence ever held up. And I have never seen even one insider come forward and say that they were part of faking the moon landings. That allegation does not even exist, and disinformation is continually recycled on the moon landings:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

which really gives the fringe crowd a bad name.

What makes Greer’s Disclosure Project a horse of a different color is that it is comprised of the testimonies of several hundred witnesses. One of my rules is to always take what a spook says with a grain of salt. I am more familiar with the spook world than I want to be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

and I know how compromised spooks can be. While the Disclosure Project had some spooky insiders making claims, most witnesses were not spook insiders but people who saw what they weren’t supposed to see, such as Gordon Cooper. Anybody familiar with the milieu knows that the primary reason for the suppression of UFOs and the ET connection is that it is joined at the hip with the exotic technologies that come with UFOs and ETs, FE and antigravity among them. While Dwight Eisenhower may have genuinely feared a War of the Worlds reaction to Disclosure, TPTB were far more concerned about losing their earthly power. Godzilla is real, and many have lost their lives on the Disclosure front:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

When navigating these minefields, a comprehensive perspective is necessary, which is what I will be encouraging my readers to develop, but scientific literacy is needed for it, at least some familiarity with the basics. I am not saying that White Science has all the answers, not by any means. But the approach advocated by White Science, in its ideal, is a good one. In a world of scarcity, however, the ideal has rarely been achieved, as personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which I learned the hard way on the high road to FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

But, plate tectonic theory, or digging around in ancient middens, sure does not seem to be much of a threat to Godzilla. And even if it was, we can still look at what evidence is available, and see what it lines up with. I have been looking into evidence of ancient advanced civilizations for a long time, even predating my interaction with the Velikovsky community:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

Very little of the evidence for technologically-advanced ancient civilizations survived much scrutiny. Plenty of people have alleged stumbling into caves where the evidence of advanced technology existed (Lobsang Rampa, Wingmakers, various tales coming from Death Valley and elsewhere), but there is no evidence except for nice stories, and in the case of Rampa and Wingmakers, there is plenty to be wary of.

When you begin to look into claims for evidence that contradicts the “party line” of anthropologists, there are instances of careers ending when anomalous evidence was adduced:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#mcintyre

But I am more skeptical of the issue today than I was fourteen years ago when I first wrote about McIntyre’s fate. Today, when you poke into the so-called evidence of disappeared advanced civilizations, you run into self-styled archeologists in pith helmets and some pretty cranky people. And if you do your best to ignore the circus and look at the evidence (and hear rumors of suppressed findings, but with little evidence to really back them up), the evidence is thin and rarely holds up to much scrutiny.

Even when I saw a UFO light up about a minute after James tried to get one to, and it knocked the aerospace and military people with me on their butts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

and my doubts that I was seeing an intelligently-piloted craft responding to James’s prayer are exceedingly small (but I am always willing to consider contrary evidence, but there is nothing like being there), at the very same time as the craft was going off, people with me were photographing “orbs” which are likely just mundane effects of digital photography, not anything paranormal. And while I saw something very odd each time I returned to The Ranch, we saw a display similar to that sighting on my first night which was merely a satellite:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#visit2007

although James and friends were quick to identify it as such. So, even when you encounter what seems to be the real McCoy, it pays to always be discerning and “skeptical.”

So, while I respect a lot of what White Science does, I am keenly aware of its limits and how Godzilla and lower-level racketeers keep false paradigms in place by suppressing evidence. They rarely manufacture evidence; they usually make disquieting evidence disappear. However, if you want to see the bogus nature of the establishment, look at how the microscopes of Rife and Naessens have been treated. Naessens is still at it today, and micrographs exist from the 1940s that show that Rife’s microscopes indeed got optical resolutions that have yet to be matched by “White Science,”

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm

and it is attacked when not ignored by the establishment. So, hard evidence like that is highly impressive, and Naessens is reproducing such “impossible” resolutions even today, so it sure is no rumor, and the suppression of the findings of those microscopes is highly understandable, because they challenge the basic premises of biology, and both scientists came up with harmless, cheap and effective cancer cures as side-effects of their discoveries. The cancer racket is more ruthless than the energy racket.

I have been spending my time lately in “downtime” mode, recovering from the last several months at my day job. But I have chores to do. Again, this is a really important subject, and I encourage more discussion. There is a great deal of chaff out there on the fringes, and a lot of the charlatanry is actually relating to something fringe and real, such as psychic ability:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

It can be quite an odyssey, sifting through the chaff, looking for kernels of wheat. I have done a great deal of it in my lifetime, and I have watched many disappear into the rabbit holes. At least the FE rabbit holes, as deadly as they can be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

are on the way to something not only real, but earthshaking in its implications. Many of the rabbit holes out there are on paths that lead to nowhere important, even if the end goal was real, and many times the aspirant is navigating a hall of mirrors, not going anyplace real.

Ilie ended his post with a key aspect of the conundrum, which is the dichotomy of the inner and outer worlds, and is critical to getting us over the hump. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity due to fear:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

which is primarily due to economic scarcity, which is due to energy scarcity. Love is the energy of creation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

and as I have written many times on this thread, love is the answer, in ways that may not seem obvious at first. Finding enough people who can achieve that level of heart-centered sentience, in a world of scarcity and fear, is truly like looking for needles in haystacks, and I have been looking for a long, long, time, and I had some help:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

that was a mixed bag, let me tell you. I don’t want that kind of help again, not if it has any more adventures like that in mind. I survived them, just barely, and many around me did not. I am going to do my best to keep people away from those minefields, but that is also part of the limitation of my approach; until people have been tested like that, they do not know what they are made of, and I have to admit that waking up that way was doing it the hard way, and I would not wish that kind of awakening on anybody else. I am hoping to help people get there via gentler paths, although that may be folly on my part, and that kind of experience is necessary to wake people up, but I hope not! :) But, as I am only asking people to sing, I will be requiring less of them than playing the Indiana Jones game. I have met awake people who did not have to go through that kind of meat grinder to get there, so I think that there is some hope for my approach. Meeting people like Ilie here tells me that my goal is not impossible, just unlikely. :) But I have seen the miracles happen before:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

Off to my chores now…

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th May 2012, 17:47
Hi:

I am in the middle of chores, but wanted to drop a line on some important thoughts that I have seen high-level conspiracists fail to understand. From Godzilla’s perspective, nothing is a threat, really, unless it can become economically disruptive. That is where the term “disruptive technology” comes from, and is why disruptive energy technology gets the most attention. So does disruptive medical technology, such as cancer cures or microscopes that can expose the foundation of the attack-the-tumor paradigm as false. I’ll agree with LaViolette on the structure versus process orientation of the paradigms, and how mainstream science is stuck on structures more than processes, which is part of their blindness, a blindness that Godzilla actively encourages.

Challenging plate tectonic theory (or developing plate tectonic theory itself) poses no threat to Godzilla, so those circuses at the margin are of no interest to him, other than to help distract people from what is important.

Disruptive energy technology is what gets Godzilla’s interest above all else, because we all ride atop the energy situation. And while inventors and their allies are those who get the golden handcuffs and the special treatment on the suppression front, the technology really is a small part of the puzzle, which I learned from my days with Dennis. Dennis was far more threatening to Godzilla than the most ingenious FE tinkerer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

When people begin to understand how the world really works, the billion dollar bribe that he was offered makes sense:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and should not stretch anybody’s sense of reality too far out of shape.

Over the years, I have been continually surprised by the naïveté of people in the FE field, as they have a hard time believing that Dennis could have been made an offer like that. It relates to the naïveté of scientists that Fuller remarked on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

Those scientists really don’t understand how the world works, from a political-economic perspective, and that is why they constantly go down the same tired paths of raising money, getting patents, trying to lead the charge (around their “great” invention, of course), either oblivious to the fact that they are about the fifty thousandth inventor/tinkerer who has tried that route, and that none of them have come within hailing distance of the finish line yet, or they think they have some special virtue that all the others did not have, or that Godzilla died in his sleep. Derailing aspirants going down that well-worn rut is one of the easiest strategies for Godzilla to defeat.

For all of that deadly naïveté regarding what the FE terrain really looks like, I have found that scientists are pretty good at seeing that the real economy is about matter and energy, and that money, banking and finance are just score-keeping, not the game itself. However, I have found that the scientifically illiterate get all wrapped up in money and banking, thinking that that is somehow the root of our economic problems. When the goal becomes rigging the scoreboard rather than playing the game, the system is broken, which is largely the case on the retail economic scene today, but fixing the scoreboard is pretty meaningless if enough of us can achieve the sufficient heart-centered sentience so that keeping score will no longer matter.

I have found that almost nobody understands those very basic ideas. My upcoming essay is partly intended to make those issues clear, and it takes a comprehensive perspective to understand, which is necessarily rooted in some scientific understanding of how the world really works, such as where our food comes from, where our metal and water come from, where everything comes from in our daily real lives, what energy’s role is, how energy scarcity defines so much of our daily existences, in ways that are invisible to about 99.99% of the population, and what energy abundance can mean, the kind that only FE can deliver.

That is my game, and we will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
20th May 2012, 20:05
Disruptive technology - this really is the key to understanding what Godzilla pay very close attention to. Nothing else is a threat to Godzilla's dominion. Perhaps this is why tech such as laptops have evolved so far in so little time, while harvesting energy is still using combustion since... forever.

Some aspects of our world are allowed to develop at full speed while others have a very heavy brake on. I like to imagine Godzilla having to keep the brake on FE with both legs and just barely being able to :D (although it seems that at least for now he gets a lot of help with that from smaller predators)

The ET issue I get why is a problem, being joined at the hip (as Wade keeps saying) with the Free Energy technology, however I don't get why the medical racket is so fierce? Is it because of greed? Because there are so much money to be made out of it? I don't see a direct connection with FE, except for the fact that FE would make it obsolete.

Wade Frazier
20th May 2012, 20:52
Hi Ilie:

On the medical racket, that is a very good question. As Brian O said, which came from his buddy John Rappoport,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc

there are seven cartels that control the world economy:

Energy
Banking
Military
Intelligence
Media
Medical
Organized religion

Energy is the kingpin, because all the others depend on it, as energy is the “author of the feast” on Earth.

In the end, Godzilla’s game is power, and economics is the means to it, not an end in itself. But the ultimate power is the power over life and death, and here is where the medical racket comes in. Look at that list, and the medical and energy rackets are the only ones with scientific foundations. Under the current capitalistic model, the medical paradigm is not only materialistic and extremely greed-based, the ultimate end of that trajectory is owning all life on Earth. That may seem like a megalomania that is hard to believe, but look at how the biomedical companies are trying to patent genes and the like. The ultimate end of that road is that the biomedical companies end up owning all of us. You want a smart kid? Pay enough, and they can turn on smart genes, but if you stop making payments (the ultimate mortgage), then they can turn it off and “repossess” your child’s brain. This is not so far-fetched as it may seem, and a lust for power knows no end.

Even Chomsky has been remarking on this trend for twenty years or so, saying that if biomedical companies end up owning life itself, all the high tech electronic revolution will be seen as some minor frill. Notice how high tech is not one of the cartels. It is still too new and innocent and uncontrolled for the rackets to get baked in, but when a “philanthropist” like Bill Gates heavily supports vaccination and capitalist genetic research, then you can get a sense where this is heading.

But it is scarcity and greed, not genetics by themselves, that are the problems, and, in the end, fear. Go back to that nightmare world that Roads visited, and see what a hideous outcome greed-based genetic engineering led to:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

They had genetic engineering in the heavenly world, too, but it was done with love and the consent of the life forms involved:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

The intention makes all the difference in the world. I'll go with Hughe’s call for a moratorium on all genetic engineering until greed is not driving the process.

On the medical racket, it is not nearly as rich as the energy racket. They did not pay out $100 billion in quiet money to buy out cancer cures; they just wipe them out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice

I have revealed that the murder attempt that Brian O survived happened immediately after a public conference.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

In the medical racket, they try to kill you at the conference. When I was with Dennis, I met two guys who were at one of Gerson's conferences where Gerson was poisoned with arsenic.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#gerson

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#gerson

He almost died at the conference. The medical racket boys play more roughly than the energy rackets boys do. The energy racket boys have deeper pockets and more savoir-faire, if we can call it that. They are not afraid of getting violent, but there are far more aspirants on the FE front, so their methods are highly sophisticated, and their pockets are deeper. They are related, BTW. At the tippy top, where the Big Boys play, I have no doubt that the kingpins have their finger on the pulse of all of those cartels, and they call the big shots.

But again, I really do not like focusing on them, even though they stepped on me when my efforts became a problem for them. I wish them no ill will, but I do not acknowledge the position that they arrogated for themselves, playing God on Earth. They really are crazy, especially on the spiritual front. If enough of us really woke up to our inner divinity and became truly sentient, they could not play their games. My ideal is that if enough of the lambs start a stampede, they will realize that the game is over and they will just slink away, and I would send them on their way with a care package, and an invitation to return if they ever really want to learn how Creation works (hint, it runs on love :) ).

I am not a conspiracist. I acknowledge Godzilla and his technological superiority, but my message to him is that his days are numbered, because the fear, greed and power-over-others game is ending on Earth, and I actually am sympathetic to Godzilla’s plight, but that does not mean that I will just cede the field to him. But he won’t be defeated in battle, particularly one mounted from the public. Godzilla really is one of us, and when he is no longer “in charge,” and it goes how I think it can, some of the best healers will take on the immense task of rehabilitating those lost souls.

As Dennis’s wife was fond of saying when I was with them, “They can kill you, but they can’t eat you.” :)

Signing off for now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
20th May 2012, 23:49
Hi:

As I pound out chores, I have a note to add, to help people think along the lines that I am intending to go. LaViolette mentions in his work that the orthodox theories of physics focus on structures, not processes. That can be seen as the difference between reductionism and systems theory. Ideally, scientific endeavor does both. As Ilie noted, my tale of human history can seem boring. All I can say is that I prefer mundane truth to pretty fiction, but I always find the pursuit of truth fascinating. There is plenty of pretty theory on the fringes, but a great deal of it is not valid.

But the conflict between reductionism and systems theory has rarely been plainer than the difference between the approach of orthodox microbiology and the findings of Béchamp, Rife, Naessens and company.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

The Rife and Naessens scopes can see life processes at resolutions that optical microscopes cannot. Their scopes are usually dismissed by orthodoxy as if they never existed. Their resolutions defy optical theory, attaining “impossible” resolutions. It really can be mind-boggling to read attacks on Naessens and Rife, who get called all manner of name and suffer all manner of attack, and the attackers can’t seem to bring themselves to even mention their scopes and their “impossible” resolutions. Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room. When they acknowledge that those scopes have “impossible” resolutions, they counter that electron microscopes can get far higher resolutions, but here we come to the nub of the matter: electron microscopes cannot study living processes, because they kill what they look at. Life forms cannot survive electron bombardment, or if they do, it is like surviving a nuclear blast – you can’t look at normal life processes with an electron microscope.

So, which would you rather see, movies of life or snapshots of death? Orthodoxy has chosen snapshots of death and actively ignores those high-resolution movies of life, because those movies blow their microbiological theories out of the water. Naessens is still around, the old guy. Somebody put one of Rife’s scopes on EBay for $250K recently, which was missing the prism that made it work, which was stolen by an “assistant” of Rife’s who was likely an agent provocateur for the medical gangsters.

And here we come to how the public is getting exactly what it deserves with all of this racketeering. Rife’s scopes are nearly a hundred years old, and Naessens’s is older than I am, and his lab has been pretty open to scientific visitors for many years, and many have gone there, like they used to beat a path to Rife’s lab. And the public is fast asleep. Lone doctors and scientists do not have a prayer against the medical gangsters. This is the standard story, whether it is biological research that points to a completely different paradigm, which overturns the evil medical paradigm, or the energy paradigm. Both orthodox paradigms rely on gangsterism on the suppression side, with quiet buyouts being Godzilla’s specialty on the FE end of the house, and the public is entirely oblivious, watching their favorite TV shows and comprising the lemming hordes who file to their deaths at the hands of orthodox “medicine.” If I had not seen it countless times, I would not have believed it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings

While the public keeps its head in the sand and is easily manipulated by the conditioning systems, Level 10 attempts, whether they are on the FE front or alternative medicine, do not have a prayer. There could also be a Level 12 effort on the medical end, and it is very related to the FE conundrum, but I am only one guy, and getting a Level 12 FE effort going is vastly more important than a Level 12 medical paradigm effort, although the same principles may likely work (although I really have not tried out the Level 12 FE path yet, either :) ), and the medical racketeers rather gleefully kill people. I had a death threat on this angle delivered close to me not long ago. They still play hard ball, although the racket is so well in hand that they rarely need to get violent anymore.

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
21st May 2012, 00:33
...The ET issue I get why is a problem, being joined at the hip (as Wade keeps saying) with the Free Energy technology, however I don't get why the medical racket is so fierce? Is it because of greed? Because there are so much money to be made out of it? I don't see a direct connection with FE, except for the fact that FE would make it obsolete.

Hi Ilie. Thank you for that post. I think Wade already answered your question, but what you wrote inspired some thoughts.

It's true the medical industry makes a vast fortune from keeping people hooked on prescription drugs and drug-assisted therapies. So a lot of people would lose a lot of money if alternative and effective therapies were truly mainstream. That in itself, as you were addressing, can be a big enough reason.

The established medical industry seems largely more about treatment of an affliction rather than its prevention in the first place (the debate about vaccinations as an available form of prevention being a whole other tangent.) So when I ask myself why, other than money, would those with the immediate power to alter the system from the top down (who are a small minority) be motivated to perpetuate a system that doesn't heal people as effectively as it could, I'm reminded of the old quote: "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

To truly keep people healthy assists people in remaining sovereign and powerful; it means to empower the body and mind that is their vehicle through this 3D realm. Keep a person thinking they need drugs, difficult or risky therapies and are likely to die of something or other before they reach 100 years old, and you keep people in fear - you create a system conducive to keeping them separate from their own mental, emotional, and psychic potential. It seems to go hand in hand with the suppression of FE, because both are related to keeping people in survival mode, dependent on external supplies, rather than freeing them up to explore and fulfill their individual and collective potential beyond that mode.

Someone I know told me that back in the 1970s their local GP (doctor) told them the cure for cancer already existed, and when they asked him why this cure hadn't made it into mainstream medical practice he replied: "Too many people on the planet." He apparently gave that answer with sad resignation and a disdain for the philosophy (which was not his own.) There are so many caring medical professionals who enter into and practice medicine with truly goodhearted intentions. I am in awe of their abilities and deeply offended that they might be being taken for a ride by the master puppeteers of the very establishment they put their faith into in order to heal others.

There are of course those who believe there are too many people on the planet. Too many people for whose liking? The technology already exists to provide sustainable food, water and clean energy for everyone here and more. If you have a population that is given the proper tools to provide for itself, experience quality education and is treated with dignity, it seems logical to me (rather than wishful thinking) that people would keep far more things in balance for the good of the whole (including population.) Perhaps I'm wrong about that; but it could take generations for humanity as a whole to heal from its survival mode - so what's the frame of reference for saying that we wouldn't as a collective (once freed to be our natural, less survivalist, selves) be more loving and considerate in our self-governance? If we are afraid of FE because of how we might abuse each other with it, it is possibly because we are looking through the lens of how people are behaving now (under a rigged and oppressive system.) But we are so much more than that if we are allowed and encouraged to be, and if the surrounding system supports it. I have what my heart and imagination tell me, and I trust in their vision of our ability to heal our own race.

I apologise for the lengthy post, but this aspect (that of the medical industry) brings out quite an emotional response. Everyone has the right to effective healing, good health, and a long life. Everyone. Without exception. Whether or not we choose it once the tools are in the mainstream is another question. But I think most people, given a kinder, fairer world of abundance, would choose to be here for a long and productive time.

The universe has enough for all of us.

Wade Frazier
21st May 2012, 00:44
Hi A Wandering Ponderer:

No need to apologize. Beautiful post, and you are zeroing in on the crux of the conundrum. Almost everybody is in survival mode, at one level or another, and when you are in that mode, it is easy to be manipulated. The master shepherds know this well, so there is more to suppressing FE and medical cures (and preventives) than just keeping the cash registers ringing. It is also about keeping people on the brink, in survival consciousness. Then they can be easily stampeded in the direction that the shepherds want them to go. It was never clearer, to me, than in the aftermath of 9/11 in the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

I had never seen more abdicated sentience than I saw after 9/11. Yes, when people awaken, it could be a far gentler, more loving world, but only the needles in haystacks can show the way right now. The masses cannot currently muster the collective sentience, and very like won’t, until FE is delivered to their homes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

Again, great post.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
21st May 2012, 03:16
Hi:

Before I go play husband for the rest of the evening (we can’t see the eclipse this evening, because it is raining here, as usual), let me make a brief post to provide an example of some of how establishment science is blinkered. Peter Ward lives here in Seattle, and he is one of the world’s authorities on mass extinction events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ward_(paleontologist)

He teamed up with another local boy, astronomer Donald Brownlee:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_E._Brownlee

for a pair of books: Rare Earth and The Life and Death of Planet Earth. The first book makes the case that a planet that can host intelligent life may be very rare indeed. The host star has to be just the right size – too small and the planet would have to be so close to host a hydrological cycle that it would tidal lock, which would be a big blow against conditions suitable to life; too large and the star burns out too quickly. It has to be in the right part of the galaxy – too close to the galactic core subjects star systems to too many exploding stars that send out gamma rays, and too far out may not have enough heavy elements to form rocky planets like Earth. The planet has to be the right composition, the right age, have active plate tectonics, and several other features that the authors know have been key to Earth’s geophysical processes that make Earth inhabitable, and they speculate that those qualities may be very rare in the universe.

In The Life and Death of Planet Earth, they make the case that Earth is in middle age, and is more than halfway through the period where it can host complex life. As the plate tectonics slow down, as life becomes ever more carbon starved, and as the sun continues to brighten, in as little as a few hundred millions years from now, Earth will begin to lose its plants, its complex animals, its oceans, and eventually all of its life forms.

Ward, because of his specializations in the Permian and Cretaceous extinctions, which are the two most dramatic known, is well aware that life on Earth has come close to dying before, particularly in the Snowball Earth episodes when virtually the entire surface of the planet became a block of ice. His studies of mass extinctions have given him an appreciation for just how fortunate life on Earth is, in that the stars aligned how they have, but it won’t last forever, and The Life and Death of Planet Earth charts how they think Earth might die. Life will go out with a whimper, not a bang, according to how they see it.

But, knowing what I do about Black Science, the highly likely ET presence, and other dynamics beyond Ward and Brownlee’s horizons, it is obvious that we really have little idea what may lie ahead for Earth. Ward and Brownlee were not only highly constrained by the assumptions of White Science, such as letting us know that Star Trek won’t happen, with the “laws” of relativity and all that, but they believed that schools would teach Einstein and Newton millions of years from now. Yes, they wrote the “laws of relativity,” which is the first time that I have seen it described that way. Einstein would be interested to know that at least some scientists think that his theories are laws. I think that Uncle Albert would not be too keen on the idea.

White Science can be quite a study, but it can also leave me shaking my head. We know almost nothing about how the universe works, and only scientists like Einstein were internally secure enough to admit it. If FE and the ETs come forward in my lifetime, it will be interesting to see how people like Ward and Brownlee react to it.

Good night,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
21st May 2012, 10:02
How Godzilla operates in a nutshell :)

(I hope he has at least a sense of humor :biggrin:)

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(click to enlarge)

Wade Frazier
21st May 2012, 15:42
Is that your artwork, young man? Cute.

I can’t draw even that well, but if I was going to make a picture of how the terrain lied, it might be like this….

Disclaimer: The resemblance of any character in the following tale to living or dead actual persons is purely coincidental. :)

The story would start in a jungle, on Degobah, perhaps. The first thing that all free energy aspirants would do is enter the cave that Luke did, where he faced himself. Not many aspirants would emerge from the cave, ready for more. For the few that passed that test, they would begin to pass through the swamp. They were lone ranger aspirants for the most part. As each entered the swamp, the surface would ripple and might be broken by a back or tentacle, and before the aspirant got very far, he would be jerked below the surface. That would be the end for most of them. Eventually, some resurfaced and fought their way clear and made it past the swamp [I will be mixing up myths and planets :) – Ed.], and a few times it was a team of them, and the teams often ended up feeding each other to the swamp predators, but some hung together long enough to make it past, while only losing a member or two.

As the first ones made it to solid ground, they began to blaze a trail that they felt was going in the direction of the temple where the legendary golden free energy idol was rumored to be. The first trailblazers began hacking their way through. Some succumbed to deadly spiders and snakes. Sometimes, velociraptors feasted on them. Eventually, enough aspirants made it far enough into the jungle that a path began to form. Eventually, spiked pits appeared, covered, with some kind of bait atop the trap. It was usually in the form of a fake golden idol, but it could also be things like bunny rabbits. The various types of bait were good, and most took it.

After a long time, some made it past the jungle, which broke out onto a plain. Mountains could be seen in the distance. As the first aspirants crossed the plain, they heard ominous sounds. They soon saw the sounds’ source: T-Rexes; a few of them. Some ran back into the jungle and went home, telling Yoda that it was a bit more than they bargained for, but some tried to sneak across the plain. T-Rexes are pretty fast and see well, with a keen sense of smell, and those early pioneers of the plain all became T-Rex food. Some fools actually tried to fight the T-Rexes, but it was like a mouse against an elephant. Eventually, the plains were littered with the remains of T-Rex meals.

Once in a great while, an Indiana Jones type made it clear across the plain, one step ahead of pursuing T-Rexes. For those that did, then the hard part came. The mountains were mostly sheer cliffs, and at the bottom were the broken corpses of previous aspirants. Eventually, a path was hammered out of the cliff face, where the most talented could cling by their fingernails and climb up. Rock falls were a constant danger.

After many years and countless aspirants being fed to swamp creatures, velociraptors, T-Rexes, and other creatures along the way, and constant rock falls, one day, the most persistent of them made it to the mountaintop. He was missing a foot and an eye, lost in his encounters along the way. The top was rather flat, and on the far end of the plateau was a temple. Inside it must be the idol, and sitting next to it was Godzilla. Godzilla surprisingly talked. He called out to the intrepid seeker, “Come over here. I am highly impressed. Very, very few make it this far. You seek the idol, and I will let you look at it. Go inside.” The adventurer went into the temple, and deep in its recesses sat the golden idol, on a platform surrounded by a lake of lava. The idol was something to behold, but might as well have been sitting on the moon, it was so unobtainable. The seeker thought about how to cross the lava, and some methods came to mind, but he did not have the equipment with him to do it.

After sitting inside the temple for a day, pining after the idol and thinking of strategies, he came out. Godzilla was sitting there, smiling, and said, “It is a little harder than you thought, isn’t it? I rarely get to eat anybody like you. Almost nobody ever makes it this far. Yes, some of what you encountered on your journey was my handiwork, but most wasn't. There are many hungry predators in the world, and they all need to eat. But I am going to let you go back, and you can tell the others how hard it is. If you come back again, I might have to eat you, but I admire your persistence.”

The adventurer survived the journey back, and near Yoda’s hut was a camp of fresh aspirants. The adventurer conversed with Yoda for a few minutes. Yoda said, “Hard it is to obtain, that free energy idol. But you actually saw it, and know it not a myth be. Be happy for that.”

After he finished his chat with Yoda, he stopped by the camp of fresh aspirants. Their gear was sparkling new, without a mark on it. As the adventurer looked at their gear, he offered some advice on what would work and what would not. Some listened, but most scoffed. When he tried to tell the fresh aspirants what was ahead for them, some eyes flew open in shock, and some decided right there to go home, but most laughed at the adventurer and did not believe a word of his wild tales. They figured that he was just trying to frighten them, so that they would not obtain the idol. They knew that they were strong enough, clever enough, sneaky enough, or lucky enough that they could get there. Some boasted to the adventurer that they would some show him the idol when they got back.

The adventurer planned to go back himself, but with a different plan, one so different that it seemed like a ridiculous strategy, but he had to try.


THE END

I’ll say this: I am not that intrepid adventurer. More than one member of my circle made it to the plateau, and some lived to tell of it.

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
21st May 2012, 15:53
And here I was going to remark on how natural your false eye looks Wade. :P

Ilie Pandia
21st May 2012, 18:45
Yes, it's my art-work, but I wouldn't call it "art" :biggrin:

Well, your picture is much more fierce than mine :)

And, Yoda did a poor job... he should have taught the apprentice the secrets of free energy first! Like "force pull", so that the hero could get the idol in the end, over the lava! (This in why in the movie Yoda insist that Luke should get that ship out of the swamp on his own... but nobody listens... :P)

How naive the young warriors must look in the eyes of your adventurer. And only a few will live to understand. And how incomprehensible the adventurer looks in the eyes of the young warriors :).

CdnSirian
22nd May 2012, 00:33
I am not a young adventurer yet have young adventurer dreams. Can't 'splain that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwnd3PY46-g rwnd3PY46-gGoing back to 1969 Bambi Meets Godzilla. By my (then) neighbour, Marv.

Would a chorus of lambs include Bambi? Just asking!

I believe times are a 'changin' and we are not Bambi. The video is just for historical reference. :)

Wade Frazier
22nd May 2012, 02:06
Hi Ilie:

But Yoda had never yet been to the temple, so that was the first news that reached him of what it was like. He soon began to train Young Jedi Knights in the “force pull,” but what they did not yet know was that there was a force-dampening field in the temple, and the idol was secured to its platform in some incomprehensible way. Future aspirants may yet find that out, but will they escape with the news?

If I had to place myself on that mythical tableau, I was a porter who made it to the foot of the cliffs a couple of times, and brought in supplies and carted out corpses (or at least a few unchewed bones for burial). I got gnawed on a bit, too, but I also saw, up close, what the adventurers were up against. At one time, I had the notion that I could become an adventurer, but was quickly disabused of that notion. It did not take long to see aspirants disappear into the swamps, fall into the spike traps (the most common bait was a sign that said, “Apply for your patent here!”), and see how fast the T-Rexes moved (and they sure have big teeth! :) ), to realize that I was not cut out for it. Dennis tried to make me his protégé, but I knew that I could never do what he does. It has to be seen to be believed.

Porters have their place in the scheme of things, however. I eventually retired from the porter profession, and if only a few of those aspirants listen to the grizzled adventurers, they sure don’t listen to the porters. :)

Similar to the adventurer’s new and undisclosed strategy, I am trying out something that probably only a porter would think of. I don’t even talk to the adventurers about it. They are playing a different game than I am, even though the goal is the same, but maybe some lambs can get there, or can nibble away at the jungle, trample a path, etc. Foolish? Maybe, but I am also not planning on leading anybody into the swamp and further along that route. It is a different path that may lead nowhere, but we will see.

Yes, until those aspirants have actually been through the swamp and jungle, and had the T-Rexes chase them across the plain, they really do not know what they are in for, and very few make it that far.

Hi CdnSirian:

Having dreams is what the choir is all about, young lady. :)

As I recall, they actually used to play Bambi Meets Godzilla as the cartoon in front of feature movies, back in the 1970s, but probably only in Berkeley art house theaters, etc., where everybody was high on something before the curtain went up. I think that I have mentioned it before on this thread, but I only began calling them “Godzilla” when I heard Greer do it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#godzilla

at our 2004 NEM conference:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

Before that, I used Dennis’s term, “The Big Boys.” An activist once mentioned that those seemed to be rather flip terms to use, so I came up with Global Controllers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#gc

In future writings on my site, I will probably use that term. But that is not nearly as fun to say as Godzilla. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
22nd May 2012, 14:07
Hi:

Now it is back to the themes of my upcoming essay, which will be, in large measure, about energy and economics. I have already written, many times, that financial measures are largely illusory. They are about economic scorekeeping, but if the game is rigged and the scoreboard is rigged, how meaningful can the scoreboard be?

One of the more perceptive economics bloggers is Charles Hugh Smith, and today’s post on his blog asks what wealth is:

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay12/what-is-wealth5-12.html

He challenges the idea that financial wealth is wealth at all, or that even land or precious metals are stable forms of wealth, and that real wealth worth having is “health, skillsets, work you control and a caring community.”

Not bad, but real wealth has always been rooted in energy. It is the wealth of societies and our species. Money is just about how to divvy up that wealth, and in a world of scarcity, that can become the overriding focus, even to the exclusion of what real wealth is.

Smith is not obvious to that understanding – his definition above is microeconomic, not macroeconomic – but unfortunately, Smith has drunk a little too much of the Peak Oil Kool-Aid, and not the Kool-Aid that oil is a depletable resource that is running out, because that can’t really be rationally disputed (the only dispute is how close to the bottom of the well we are, and that dispute is not really a large one, just like the greenhouse gas effect of our industrial civilization is not much of a debate among climate scientists that aren’t on the hydrocarbon lobby payroll), but the Peak Oil crowd has deeply imbibed the “laws of physics” Kool-Aid, and think that our only way out is to reduce the global population by about 90%:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

I have tried reaching the Peak Oil people, the Radical Left:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm

the Free Software Movement:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

the alternative media and others, and Brian O tried reaching environmentalists and his former colleagues in the scientific establishment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

and our efforts were not half-hearted. We generally got to the biggest names in those fields, and offered to spend a great deal of our time, for free, to introduce them to the milieu, to kind of act as guides. I had a lot more meat to give than Brian did, because I came from the activist side of the house and went through the meat grinder, but Brian was no slouch. He brought his former-astronaut cachet to the issue, as a way to get his foot in the door, and he was also about the best I ever saw on his understanding of many of the issues that surround the situation.

All of those potential allies were deeply under the spell of the “laws of physics,” and dismissed my experiences and those of the relative few like me as a “conspiracy theory.” They were all deeply-entrenched Level 3 people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

and that is a big part of the problem among the “smart” and “educated.” The bottom line is that there is no group on Earth today with the right stuff to go after FE. Even the ranks of the FE crowd are filled with naïve pretenders, predators and other opportunists, and scientists and tinkerers that are lambs to the slaughter if they ever get anything going on the technical end of it, which is where the obsessive focus unfortunately is, when it is really a tiny part of the puzzle.

But essays like that one by Smith on wealth at least can get people beginning to think outside the box on issues like wealth, but he only scratches the surface, and I plan to go deep on that issue in my upcoming essay.

It is off to work now.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
22nd May 2012, 15:06
Very good Charles Hugh Smith essay! Bookmarked the blog...

Nine years ago a business partner and I invested in real estate. We both cashed out IRA's and some family money to get it. The plan was solid. ha ha. Re-fi, reduce the mortgages, produce more cash flow, buy and hold, per the mantra of the man and organization presenting the seminar. If the world had stayed the same, everything would be fine.

But everything changed, forces beyond our control devalued everything, and our recent blessing is that we only had to pay a thousand dollars to give them away. The buyers to whom we transferred the titles got a great deal and saved my credit. So to speak.

Credit is only worth having if you have enough income to use it. Otherwise it is just another carrot dangling to loop you into borrowing, to establish it. Not that it's worthless, but savings at hand is usually more useful.

So left with my real assets -- health, skill sets and community -- and "experience", I move on.

I take time to vision that the refugee camps in Africa will be converted into vast lush farmlands with every family living in a beautiful nurturing home. That every lost child will be picked up, cared for, and will thrive. That even the mad armies that kidnap children and murder the parents will be isolated yet cared for, in a community where they can experience "getting a life".

That the huge and vast prisons of the industrialized world can be converted to productive communities where the inmates can hopefully thrive, learn skill sets and "get a life".

The television networks and internet will be extremely useful in spelling out the potential that is so difficult to imagine for almost everyone, even those who live in a state of extreme well being, but who have had to work every breathing moment to stay ahead of competitors (or lie cheat and steal for it).

Oops, off to work! Yet, no complaints. When the lights come on at the flick of a switch, and the tap flows water - not much to wa-wa about!:cool:

Wade Frazier
22nd May 2012, 15:38
Hi CdnSirian:

You got snagged by the hucksters! Sounds like you got off easy. Boy, the real estate hysteria was really bad here in 2004-2006, and I told anybody who would listen to look out below:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#enron

Some actually listened and avoided the catastrophe, but most had this dazed look, mesmerized by the promise of easy money. One of them I actually tried to talk out of getting involved in Internet stocks in 2000, unsuccessfully, and she was mesmerized by the “next great thing” in real estate five years later. People like Dave Lereah were the Pied Pipers to those sheeple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lereah

You, David (AKA Tyler) and others here have seen how the poor nations live. I have not visited them and do not need to. I saw how the “winners” in LA lived, who migrated from Mexico, and if how they lived in LA was “winning the Mexican lottery,” I shuddered to think how their lives in Mexico were, and Mexico is seen as the big winner in much of Latin America, believe it or not.

Poor nations are energy-poor ones, or if their nation is energy rich and under the thumb of the West (like Saudi Arabia is), then the residents do not get the benefit of that energy and are still poor. I was just reading this morning of brain tapeworms that literally eat away people’s brains:

http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jun/03-hidden-epidemic-tapeworms-in-the-brain

Being a vegetarian in the industrialized world means that I don’t have to worry, but millions of people in the poor nations are not so lucky. What a way to lose one’s mind.

I had to miss one bus for home-related reasons, but not the next one, so it is out the door to work now!

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
23rd May 2012, 15:15
Hi:

I have been reading a bunch of LaViolette’s work lately, and read his Camelot interview:

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/paul_laviolette_interview_en.html

He has been around the block a few times, and I have a lot of respect for scientists like that, developing theories, trying to test them. His theories are similar to those of others, although he is not coy about going after a unified-field-level of theory, the Holy Grail of physics. Of course, his stuff ends up sneaking into FE a little, such as Mills and his hydrinos, or Bearden’s theories, or Bohm’s (which Adam was partial to in his early FE talks long ago, which predicts a larger ZPF than LaViolette’s theory does). His theories cover a lot of territory, and it seems like his big warning is that Earth may get blasted by a “Galactic Superwave” before long, like in the next few hundred years. But if so, I am not sure what we can do about it, other than have FE and the resilience it would naturally build in against any natural catastrophe. With FE and its attendant technologies, we could weather any storm.

I can only respect examining ice cores, and I have seen many theorists use the ice cores to test their theories. Good stuff, but call me skeptical that the recent mass extinctions were “blast” caused, as LaViolette argues in his theories. LaViolette mixed it up with Clube and Napier on that one, claiming precedence, and Clube and Napier are accused of piggy-backing on Velikovsky’s work, and so it goes. The megafaunal extinctions go back about 60,000 years, when the human toolset improved to where they could kill anything and they spread across the planet, first to more northern climes and Australia, and later across the land bridge to the Western Hemisphere, and wherever humans showed up, the megafauna quickly went extinct.

Although I dislike citing Wikipedia for something that controversial, the comet hypothesis (Clube, et al, and the Superwave can be considered a variant) is one of the very fringe ones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Comet_hypothesis

and it has problems that I cite in my writings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

such as megafauna surviving on isolated islands; the wooly mammoth survived on Wrangel Island until less than four thousand years ago, and the giant ground sloth survived in the Caribbean islands until about five thousand years ago. Humans are the key variable in all megafaunal extinctions in the past 50,000-60,000 years. The South American megafauna, including elephants, went extinct soon after the arrival of humans, but it was close to the North American extinctions, so the Superwave or comet-impact hypothesis has some superficial plausibility. It weighs heavily against the climate change hypothesis, however, as South America did not have ice sheets, and all the megafauna around the world had already survived dozens of similar climate changes due to the oscillating ice sheets. The interglacial period that we are in is the same one that has been happening about every 100,000 years for millions of years. What evidence speaks even more strongly are the Australian extinctions, which began about 50,000-60,000 years ago, right smack in the middle of a glacial interval, and the Australian megafauna had been isolated from Asia for about forty million years, which is why it had marsupials when the other continents had placental mammals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

South America had marsupials too, until the land bridge with North America was formed a few million years ago, and the placental mammals came to dominate.

All the evidence that makes sense to me points to the introduction of a super-predator that burned the land and had weapons and hunting tactics that those animals had no experience with. Killing those animals that had no fear of humans was like taking candy from a baby. So, the comet or Superwave theory of the North American extinctions I have a hard time with, which is what LaViolette argues for. In the end, all theories are wrong. We barely have any idea how the universe works.

As long as people like LaViolette are playing the pure theory game, Godzilla leaves them alone. It is in the realm of applied theory, when technologies based on new theories threaten to have an economic impact, that they need to watch out, especially anything close to FE, and antigravity is part of that milieu. LaViolette did good work in his research of when electro-gravity research in the USA went black in the 1950s. My understanding is that that coincided with reverse-engineering captured ET craft, and Godzilla eventually prevailed.

There is no doubt that many small military minds bought the “national security” reasons for it all going black, and Eisenhower may have genuinely feared a War of the Worlds reaction, but Godzilla was really calling the shots in the end, and it was all about maintaining his power and death grip over humanity. When you begin to rattle that cage, with disruptive energy technology in particular, then Godzilla begins playing rough. As somebody who survived some of those episodes, I am continually amazed at the naïve scientists and inventors who chase patents and get research labs going, thinking that they are on some breakthrough path, and not on the bloody, one-way trail that leads straight into Godzilla’s lair. I really don’t want to watch anymore.

I’ll keep reading LaViolette’s stuff. It is not Black Science, and it is not White Science, but fringe theories that may well have validity. Call me skeptical that the ancient myths support advanced scientific understandings, which is another theory of LaViolette’s. I know that we all have psychic abilities that White Science does not recognize, but Black Science certainly does, and it would not be surprising that the ancient myths (LaViolette does not make the case that all of the ancient myths do, only a few of them, such as the Egyptian mythology) were drawing on primordial understandings, brought with them from the astral plane. I’ll buy that, but the Egyptian elites acted like all the other elites, with their monumental architecture that glorified them, with their religions that made the elites the representatives of divinity on Earth. They worked slaves to death mining their gold and making their monuments, which was even more brutal than most early civilizations. While conscripting strong backs to build the elite-glorifying architecture is common to all early civilizations, and sacrificing people to the “dedication” of the monuments was unfortunately common enough, ancient Egypt had some rather unique cruelties, and I am skeptical that their religion reflected deep scientific understandings, although I will not deny that their prophets could have been tapping into mystical awareness. The Ra Material purportedly comes from Ra, whom the Egyptians made into their deity. The channeled Ra said that he withdrew when the Egyptian priesthood began corrupting his teachings into a way of lining the pockets of the priesthood, which is the standard story for all religions. :) So it is, in a world of scarcity. I have even seen Ra declared a manifestation of the Infinite Spirit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#infinite

and I’ll buy that. The Infinite Sprit is indeed all-knowing, and if its understanding spawned the Egyptian mythology before it got corrupted by the priesthood, that makes sense, but I doubt that it was some encoding of a technologically-advanced pre-Egyptian civilization. I’ll probably feel that way until they unearth a stargate or other such marvel, and the public actually gets to see it. Until then, the fringes tend to spin wild yarns with little evidence, although I have more respect when somebody like LaViolette goes after it.

Until we gain access to Godzilla’s Golden Hoard and the real physics texts, not the books they teach from in the universities, then there is going to be a great deal of speculation, much of it crazed, and co-opted for all manner of New Agey and ulterior agenda, which is usually about lining the pockets and building the harems of its leaders. :)

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
23rd May 2012, 15:39
Hello Wade,

You have a huge advantage over most of us here (I think), in that you took the time to research and develop a comprehensive view of the world. And you also have a ton of life experience to draw upon :).

Just reading your posts, or essays on your site could get one trapped for months verifying all the references you give and the facts you bring forth.

I also acknowledge that it must be frustrating for you to have to deal over and over again with issues that you have long investigated thoroughly but we just found out about them. Your essay might do a very good job to bring others up to speed and to build a comprehensive view.

I can see why the naivete of the scientists surprises you, but most of them are highly conditioned to work in their niche. A comprehensive view does not enter their minds. There are plenty of jokes about scientists not being able to function in the "real world", let alone be aware of Godzilla. There are even movies about capitalists making money by stealing inventions, but scientists are too busy to watch those :biggrin: In a sense, even though they have a developed intellect, they are the most trapped by it.

Experts nowadays are praised, while the "generalists"... not so much :).

Wade Frazier
24th May 2012, 03:02
Hi Ilie:

I’ll make some long posts on this topic over the long weekend (so we can honor our imperial troops). I took a long, strange path. I began as a math wiz and scientific prodigy, and threw it all away because some voice in my head told me to study business after I decided that life in a chemistry lab might not be for me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

My other nightmares aside, how do I feel about that today? Strangely unfulfilled in some ways, but happy in others. That voice had other plans for me, it seems.

I am not foolish enough to embrace too much fringe science in my upcoming essay, but will give nods to it. For what I am trying to get across, White Science will be plenty for most of it. I really am not going to be trying to present some extraordinary insight, at least not from the scientific end of it, but I will also be giving a big nod to Black Science and what is under wraps that I am aware of. That stuff is real.

I hold White Science in higher regard than the mainstream media, for instance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

but I am well aware of its limitations. My eyes began to open when I was twelve and my father “impossibly” reversed the hardening of his arteries:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

But my mystical awakening was what really set me on my path:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

just when I got my dreams of changing the energy industry:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

which is pretty much the standard story for everybody I know like me; they usually had mystical awakenings in their late teens or early twenties. Brian O came to it later in life, in his late 30s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#oleary

But before he did, he was becoming quite disenchanted with White Science, with its deadening materialistic, reductionistic, party line:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill

All who get mystical awakenings are wrecked for buying the materialistic presumptions of White Science, but that is usually only the beginning of our adventures. If I had not tried to bring disruptive energy technology to the marketplace with Dennis, and the incredible odyssey that that entailed, I would likely not have much worth saying. But, more this weekend. Navigating the shoals of White Science, and learning to respect the fringes, while knowing that it is mostly chaff, is part of the learning experience. Because of my crazy journey, I know that Black Science and its fruits also exist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I’ll say this: it pays to not get too enamored with any theory. In the end, they are all wrong, but some are more wrong than others. When exotic theory can lead to breakthrough technologies or “absurd” predictions that experiments can later verify, then they become very worth paying attention to, but that is part of the problem, when the national security state and Godzilla can so easily remove such technologies from the scene. Part of the problem with LaViolette’s theories, for instance, is that he often admits that the instruments today are not sensitive enough to test the predictions of his theories, if they ever will be. If that is the case, then the theories should go on the back shelf until they can be subjected to experiments that can falsify them. LaViolette admits this limitation, to his credit (although he cites many instances where his theories created far fewer ad hoc theoretical patches than the White Science theories do), and the history of White Science is littered with experiments designed to measure phenomena, to have it eventually learned that the errors of measurement inherent in their experimental technologies and techniques were larger than the effect being studied, which made the experiments worthless. A lot of that still happens today and probably always will, so it is to LaViolette’s credit that he admits that key aspects of his theories cannot be tested with current levels of technology, although the discovery of evidence of quarks, for instance, puts some of his theory at risk, it seems, but a lot of that is over my head. Quantum physics is hairy stuff.

More this weekend on the nature of that beast.

Yesterday, I was planning on making a follow-up post on the wealth issue. Here is a classic, that kind of sums up how scientists view economists:

http://ineteconomics.org/blog/inet/what-are-economists-anyway

Economics, as it is currently practiced, is a wannabee profession, getting all spun up in math and models, trying to be scientific, but is totally divorced from reality, or as that speaker said, economists are basically the magicians in a smoke-and-mirrors operation to keep the masses dazed and confused on behalf of the economists' patrons. They are intellectual warriors working on behalf of the wealthy and powerful.

This guy, with a NSFW blog name:

http://www.kunstler.com/index.php

is another Peak Oiler. Again, the Peak Oilers get points for acknowledging how dependent industrial civilization is on oil, but does not get marks for its entrenched Level 3 perspective.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

Kunstler has been campaigning on the Peak Oil theme for many years, and gets some mainstream platforms periodically:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/23/AR2008052302456.html

FE makes it all go away, but until we do, Kunstler’s view is astute.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
24th May 2012, 04:49
...The ET issue I get why is a problem, being joined at the hip (as Wade keeps saying) with the Free Energy technology, however I don't get why the medical racket is so fierce? Is it because of greed? Because there are so much money to be made out of it? I don't see a direct connection with FE, except for the fact that FE would make it obsolete.

Hi Ilie. Thank you for that post. I think Wade already answered your question, but what you wrote inspired some thoughts.

It's true the medical industry makes a vast fortune from keeping people hooked on prescription drugs and drug-assisted therapies. So a lot of people would lose a lot of money if alternative and effective therapies were truly mainstream. That in itself, as you were addressing, can be a big enough reason.

The established medical industry seems largely more about treatment of an affliction rather than its prevention in the first place .....

Hi, all you say is accurate, but there is another reason, one which a lot of people have failed to notice. It is that Western allopathic medicine is, quite simply, predicated upon erroneous assumptions about who we are and how we fit into the universe. We are constantly bombarded with messages about how "scientific" modern medicine is, about how wondrous and efficaceous it is, yet the truth is somewhat different. I'm not denying that the medical establishment is in a better state than it was during the era of blood-letting etc., but it is far from being the evidence based, scientific wonder that its' proponents claim. But because we are brought up to hold medical pratitioners in wonder and awe, most people fail to take even a cursory glance under the covers, and are unable to entertain the possibility that doctors, or the medical system could possibly be wrong ! I'm not criticizing doctors here, the majority of whom enter the profession for noble reasons, the problem lies in the system, and in the beleifs about human life which underpin the system.

The PTB, or whetever name we wish to use, certainly DO NOT wish us to know we are powerful, that we have to power to heal ourselves. They want us to believe that we are random collections of chemicals, interacting by mere chance, and that we operate on a purely mechanistic level, independent of our environment. That all our diseases can be blamed on external pathogens or, the latest fashion - genes.

Alternative medicine is what got me properly started on my journey, and I've studied Chinese Medicine, homoeopathy and various shamanic healing techniques. Most medical systems end up becoming belief systems in their own right, and I've found it difficult to stick with one particular set of fixed ideas. Anyway, that's beyond the scope of this thread. ...

I hang my head in shame that it's taken me this long to visit here, and I have to say it's a refreshing place to be !!! Wade, I'm in awe at your ability to write so prolifically and clearly, thanks.

Philip

Wade Frazier
24th May 2012, 13:21
Hi Philip:

Thanks for writing. When I first wrote my medical racket essay, in about 1999, I called it a conflict between paradigms, between masculine and feminine medicine, in particular:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine

I get more specific further on in the essay, and say it is the difference between thinking like a creator and thinking like a victim:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1

If I rewrote that essay today, I doubt that those two thrusts of that essay will change. The masculine/feminine dichotomy can arguably be found across many disciplines, but it is starkly evident in medicine. But the thinking like a victim part is the universal problem, and yes, the “authorities” cultivate that learned helplessness so that they can control the situation. That dynamic can be found in all fields, in a world of scarcity.

I wished the doctors really cared, but in the USA, most go into it for the money. It is Earth’s most lucrative profession. So, of those that care enough to eventually see through the indoctrination, which aren’t many to begin with, they are not going to buck the system. It is like that in the CIA, for instance, where if you figure out what the CIA is really all about, it is too late, and Langley is filled with zombies waiting to retire:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#stockwell

Even MDs that go into it with the best intentions get it beaten out of them pretty quickly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#training

American MDs are basically marketing and administration conduits for the biomedical companies, although you won’t find even one in a hundred thousand who will openly admit it. Most probably never figure it out, because when all they are handed are hammers (knives and drugs), every problem looks like a nail.

Yes, the sense of learned helplessness, that only the “expert” can fix it, the rigid dogmatism that dogs almost all modalities, is a big part of the problem.

I woke up this morning to write something different, partly so that you readers can see how this stuff is affecting me. I have to go to Manhattan on business next month. Dennis lives in New Jersey, and for reasons that I can’t go into right now, he would like to see me. It is going to be hard to fit him in, and I am not sure that I want to. Most of you college grads probably have that recurring nightmare where you had the big final exam and overslept, or forgot to go to class for the entire quarter, etc. More than thirty years later, I still get nightmares like that. You may be able to imagine the nightmares that I can still get around my FE adventures, although I rarely remember my dreams and rarely are they of my FE days, except the one that just woke me up.

The dream was of Dennis, his family, and a circle of his associates. We all swam in a bay. After a series of events, Dennis was sitting with me and asked what I had learned about forming groups like he did. I was so shocked that I woke up. The Dennis in the dream did not understand that I wanted nothing to do with building his kinds of groups, at least for the missions he was taking them on. As I woke up, I had my reply, but too late for the dream.

The reply would have been: “The groups you assemble are weak, and most will turn on you or abandon you when the going gets hard, and it will get hard. That is not your fault, but it is the nature of humanity these days. You are one in a billion, Mr. Professor was one in millions, and a voice led me to both of you, after desperate prayers, prayers that I do not plan to repeat. I doubt that that “method” can be taught. I am shooting for a different group. Well, not a different group, really, but I do not plan to ask from them what my path with you demanded. I am going about it differently. I can’t do what you do, and I also do not want to. I am still doing what I can, but I could not walk your road anymore. It was too hard, and I am not sure where it led, other than to wrecked lives and hard lessons.”

I have to get ready for my work day now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th May 2012, 14:03
Hi:

OK, I will make a series of posts in the next few days on White Science, Black Science, my journey, and how my perspective developed over the years.

First, welcome back, Robert. I hope you enjoyed your “time off” from Avalon. :)

I was recognized as “different” almost from the time I was born. I memorized the books that my parents read me before I was two, reading came effortlessly to me, I began special science classes when I was eight, read all the paleontology books on my school’s library by the time I was ten, and at age nine, I was put into gifted programs.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

I was quite the prodigy, and my teachers remarked on my fascination with nature from the first grade onward. It looks like I was that way when I came into the world. Some anecdotes from my parents I was too young to remember, but they very seriously addressed having a prodigy on their hands, and I had many opportunities that others did not, and I can only be grateful for that.

When I was nine, I read the encyclopedia every night as my bedside companion, as the family library was kept in my bedroom. I did not “get” fiction, and rarely read any until I was fourteen and my father handed me The Hobbit. I quickly became hooked on fantasy and science fiction, an addiction that continues to this day. :)

I helped scout for an archeological dig when I was twelve, and archeology and paleontology was my first love. Around the same time, I became fascinated with chemistry. When I finally began studying chemistry in high school, I was quite the prodigy, and in college, I was at the top of my science and math classes. I had dreams about the elements, including one about gallium oxide that I can still vividly recall.

But at about age thirteen, I obtained some books by Frank Edwards that dealt with strange events and phenomena that science could not explain. I avidly read those books, and also read Ripley’s Believe It or Not. I pretty much memorized the Guinness Book of World Records, atlases, and the like. I don’t know what I was trying to do, but information, of many kinds, fascinated me.

My parents sent me to Europe for two months on an art-culture tour when I was sixteen, kind of against my wishes, and I had the summer of my life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

That tour was the beginning of my awakening and adulthood on a few fronts, but my big awakening was a few months later when my family took Silva Mind Control and I experienced and witnessed what are today called remote viewing experiences:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

That began my mystical awakening, and I became quite the student of spirituality for the next fifteen years, and that study has never ended. At almost the same time, my first professional mentor invented what was considered the world’s best engine for powering an automobile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

I was kind of raised in an inventor’s workshop, and his engine gave me my first dreams of changing the energy industry.

A few years later, during my second year of college, after I decided that I might not like spending my career in a chemistry lab (that was during my third year of chemistry studies), a desperate prayer was answered when a voice in my head that I had never heard before, and had never before asked for, told me that I might like to study business. At the time, I did not even know what that was, or if you could study it in college, but I am a CPA today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

Even I look back at those early years and sometimes have a hard time believing that they happened like they did. But it happened. I went from being the chemistry prodigy to the accounting prodigy, but my formal science studies also ended then, which I have mixed feelings about. But, I received one heck of an education from Mr. Mentor on the process of science, inventing, and technology, which continued into my adulthood. And I had that dream that I nursed about changing the energy industry. That voice knew what it was doing, because the chances of changing it from the science end would have been slim. The chances were much better from the business end of it.

However, my mystical awakening wrecked me for buying the materialistic party line of White Science, so I would have never fallen totally under the White Science spell. As I look back today, I wonder how much of my spiritual studies led me away from White Science training. I am not sure, but it may have had something to do with it.

Then I graduated from college and met the brutal realities of the real world, and ended up working in hell in Los Angeles:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

while I went from record test scores in college to being the black sheep in my dog-eat-dog office of several hundred professionals in the shark tank. I experienced severe cognitive dissonance, my confidence took a beating, and those were my life’s unhappiest years. I started out highly naïve and asked Easter Bunny questions that everybody laughed at:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

But I eventually learned that my profession was worthless:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#getting

which may have been the hardest thing for me to accept, idealist that I was. It all came to a head after three years in hell when, for the second and so far last time in my life, I prayed for guidance. Ten days later, I was interviewing a thousand miles away at Dennis’s company:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

The rest is history, a history that I don’t regret, but a history that I don’t want to live through again. However, it gave me learning experiences that I could not have imagined when I was younger. Finding out how the world really works that way was sanity-threatening. I saw many wrecked and prematurely ended lives, and that will always haunt me. I wonder how I survived those experiences, and my guess is that it was my overgrown Boy Scout tendencies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

and my youth. Older Boy Scouts like Mr. Professor did not survive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

But it was during those days that we pushed the boundaries of White Science with our technologies, and I eventually learned about some of the realities of Black Science.

The heat pump that Dennis built, sold, and installed is still the best heating system that has ever been on the world market. But its performance was well within the parameters of White Science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

if hard to believe by White Scientists and engineering types. When Dennis began thinking in terms of free energy, however, it began bumping up against what White Science said was possible. However, Mr. Mentor and Victor Fischer had both invented hydraulic heat engines, and both thought that it was possible to exceed the limits of what White Science said was possible:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#fischer

I may never know if we could have really achieved it, because Godzilla came to the party and we were quickly wiped out, immediately after Dennis was offered a billion dollars to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

A year earlier, we were offered ten million dollars for our free energy idea:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

which I eventually discovered was the standard initial friendly buyout offer in those days. I began to hit the books, diving into university library stacks when Dennis was in jail, so I could brief our expert witnesses on some of our technologies, and after I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, I hit the books big time, and began the research that comprises my site today. I muddled through thermodynamics texts and patents, trying to understand why Mr. Mentor’s and Fischer’s engine might have been able to beat the Carnot ideal, and came away scratching my head.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#industrial

The textbooks declared their contraptions to be impossible, but I could see where they thought that they had an edge. But building it is the proof in the pudding. Several years later, Dennis got back with Fischer and their prototype ran for an entire day. I was impressed, but not convinced. Then, soon after Brian O recruited me to help found NEM, I encountered Eugene Mallove saying that a path to free energy was exactly what we were trying to do when they lowered the boom on us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

His murder a few months later drove Brian O out of the country, understandably:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

But before I left Ventura, I became aware of technologies that left White Science in the dust. Sparky Sweet’s technology was the first that I became aware of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

and around the same time, one of my close associates was given the royal show of what exists in the cupboards of Black Science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

It was impressive, to say the least. During those same years, I became aware of microscopes that the theories of White Science said were “impossible,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

but just looking through the lenses of those microscopes, with their “impossible” resolutions, is all the proof that is needed, proof that is older than I am:

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm

That White Science could so studiously ignore those microscopes and, more importantly, what they revealed, was initially mind-boggling to me, but I have come to accept that state of affairs.

This post is just a preamble. What will follow over the next few days will be about my explorations of White and Black science over the past twenty years and more. I am not going to throw away White Science, not by any means. It can be very useful, and has a great deal more validity than the fringes do, as a whole. But Black Science, at least from the glimpses that I have had of it, shows the great limitations in White Science. Much of it is due to political-economic considerations, but a great deal is also the inertia that is found in every discipline, as dogmatism tends to prevail everywhere, especially where adhering to dogmatism puts food in the belly and guarantees safe membership in the herd. Nobody wants to admit that, however. Everybody wants to think that they are free thinkers who know the truth, such are our collective conceits. Reality is something different, and the coming posts will deal with my explorations of White Science, Black Science, and the fringes. It won’t be just a recap of earlier posts, but will be new stuff that will be a preview of my upcoming essay, to a degree.

Enjoy the weekend.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
25th May 2012, 14:30
Well, this sheds some light on Wade's ability to link to virtually any paragraph on his huge website :). I wish I had a memory like that :biggrin:. I bet it helps with the comprehensive new.

WhiteFeather
25th May 2012, 14:42
Hey Wade can you slow down a bit, this thread of overwhelming knowlege is taking eons to read. ;)

Limor Wolf
25th May 2012, 20:20
Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " I had that dream that I nursed about changing the energy industry.."


" The rest is history, a history that I don’t regret, but a history that I don’t want to live through again."

Hello Wade, I wouldn't like to be a bearer of 'bad news', but It is seriously obvious that you don't have much choice but to continue your path which you were born to fulfill. even if you are trying to 'outsmart' your life trail by diverting from the main road to a less traveled one, you are still on the path to bring your childhood dream to be realized, and everything that has carried you through till this time and from this moment onward is a precise work of art. no less. there is some systematics in this madness.

You are blessed with an ability to see situations which are composed with many different layers, but it probably feels like a curse more than a blessings. it is not.

From the many lessons you have learned and by watching others pay dearly, you may just happen to pave the way to the door, while other free energy adventurers and dreamers hit the wall again and again in the hope that the wall opens, and when they collapse in exhaustion, there comes another new dreamer that try his luck in battling the wall..

It is a wise man's act to go and look for a hidden entrance, because there is always one. and you go and tell Dennis that.
He fits to be a hero by all measures, but it's sometimes the observer that sees what IS, where most people see what they expect.

As you often finish your posts, time will tell..


Many blessings

~^&*~^&*

Limor

Wade Frazier
25th May 2012, 22:10
Hi all:

Guys, your posts are appreciated. :)

Limor, yours is a very important post, and I will spend some quality time in the near future dealing with it. I am about to go hiking, on this stunning spring day. I am getting real lucky this spring, picking awesome days to go hiking. This may not seem directly-related to your post, but it is to me.

When I say that I am looking for needles in haystacks, or that love is the answer, or that enough people need to think like creators to get us over the hump, I am really saying the same thing each time, and here is another variation of it: everybody in the choir is going to own the global energy situation, from Godzilla to the oil and electric companies to their customer-victims. Until we own it, we can’t change it. We even have to do our best to love it. We are all responsible for the state of affairs on Earth today. If you are drawing breath on this planet, you own a piece of the situation. People who say, “I have nothing to do with it; it is a dance that Godzilla and the sheeple play,” have yet to own it. Responsibility means being able to respond.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#responsibility

When enough of us can own it, love it, and love all the players in it, then we can change it in nearly an instant. In my own way, that is what I am trying to do – mine is a more cerebral approach than some others are taking, but all have their place. Sometimes, our role is to be a bad example. :)

Christianity, like all dominant ideologies, is scarcity-and-victim oriented. Dennis is a Christian, even if he is the greatest man I ever met, and he kind of lives for the battle, in a very lamb-like way. He considers his life a sacrifice to his god, and I can see why:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice

He will likely go the path that he is on until he draws his last breath. It is a noble sacrifice, to be sure, but I am trying to do this without anybody playing the martyr. We already have more than enough of those in this field.

OK, going hiking now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th May 2012, 16:38
Hi:

OK, this will be the first in a series of posts on my experiences with White Science, Black Science, and fringe science. This will take some time, as there is a lot of territory to cover. I want to show the path I took, which was arguably meandering, but it all influenced where I ended up. I am sorry if it bores some of you, but I have never quite heard of a journey like mine, and I think that some may find the information useful, if for no other reason than they may understand my idiosyncrasies a little better. :) Mine is an all-too-human journey, for better or worse.

In academic circles, there is a distinction between science and technology. Science is ideally a process of discovery, and a means by which theories are developed and tested via experimentation. The acid test of any theory is its ability to predict phenomena. Technology is a primary means by which experiments are performed. If an experiment can be reproduced by independent scientists, it is considered to be one that can validate or invalidate theories. The strongest test of any theory is one that can falsify it. Theories that have survived experiments designed to falsify them are taken seriously, until experiments come along that invalidate them. Einstein said that every theory is killed by a fact, and he did not expect his theories to survive forever, but that the best parts of his theories might last longer.

It was not inevitable that science had to become reductionistic, materialistic, positivistic, and other traits that White Science has today. Those traits are mere idiosyncrasies of how it is practiced today, traits that have arguably led science in the wrong direction. Technology and science have interacted, each advancing the other. Improving technology allowed for more subtle experiments, and new scientific findings allowed new technologies to be developed. I should almost say, “White Science and technology,” rather than just “White Science,” because the two are usually conjoined.

“Pure science” is the idea of scientific pursuit that is solely devoted to the pursuit of phenomena. Applied science is use of the findings of “pure science” to solve real world problems. Building a bridge is applied science. Measuring the shear strength of steel is pure science. The goal of pure science is admirable, but no science has ever been conducted independent of politics, economics, the state of technology, and so forth, so pure science has never been “purely” pursued. Scientific findings are heavily dependent on the scientists themselves.

White Science is what I grew up with, reading all of those paleontology books, collecting fossils, etc. My father was part of the most spectacular applied White Science project in history: sending men to the moon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

It was more of a Cold War stunt than a feat of scientific discovery, with nationalistic goals casting a heavy shadow over the entire affair. When those astronauts died in the Apollo 1 disaster, NASA’s environment became hyper-political and my father wanted out. He also hated living in Houston, and the reason that Mission Control was in Houston was because the sitting president was from Texas. The military also took vengeance on my father for quitting the Space Race:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#vengeance

The Cold War was a contest between political-economic systems, so economics and politics were inextricably interwoven together in the Space Race. But my father was as excited as everybody else was when Apollo 11 landed on the moon, and our closest friends visited us the weekend that Armstrong and Aldrin walked on the moon, for a big party as we watched the lunar excursion. Anybody who watched it live may recall that the video footage from the lunar surface was upside down for a few seconds, before the technicians corrected it and showed it right side up.

My father gradually lost his athletic build and later that year he hit his all-time fattest, at about fifty pounds overweight, and had high blood pressure and began to get angina and other health problems, and he was only thirty-three years old. The next year, after asking his doctor what could be done, and the doctor replied that there was nothing to do except give him some nitroglycerin pills, my father obtained the booklet that changed my life. The booklet was about how our diets cause hardening of the arteries, and how our diets can also reverse it. My father saw a chance at life and took it, and our entire family went “health nut” in 1970:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

In two years of subsisting almost entirely on live food, he completely reversed the hardening of his arteries. Back then, hardening of the arteries was considered to be a normal aging process and irreversible. Hardening of the arteries is still considered to be irreversible in the halls of White Science, and White Science still does not admit that diet can cure it. My father was living proof of the “impossible.” That was when I began to see chinks in the armor of White Science. Twenty years later, as I was beginning to perform the research that became my site, I discovered that the booklet that saved my father’s life was banned in the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#banned

Since I had just gone through the meat grinder with Dennis, seeing that booklet banned was not a huge shock, but that was when I began to realize that the medical industry was a racket just like the energy industry. That booklet was an example of pure science, and because it was wiped out by the medical establishment, it is an example of fringe science – not embraced by the scientific establishment.

I need make a further distinction regarding science. Life sciences are considered to be far “softer” than the physical sciences. Even though sometimes you might think differently after watching life scientists at work, life is more than a bag of chemicals in a sustained reaction, so life sciences study behavior and other aspects of life that often derive equivocal results. The physical sciences, such as astronomy, do not have those limitations, so physical scientists often look askance at life scientists, as the life sciences are not as “pure” as the physical sciences. This has contributed to the life sciences trying to be more like the physical sciences, and I am not sure if that is a good thing, but it is the state of affairs. The life sciences use the findings of physical sciences in their work, and rarely the other way around.

The medical sciences are a sub-category of the life sciences, and I have seen physical and life scientists openly acknowledge that the medical sciences are barely sciences at all, as they are heavily influenced by the political-economic framework that medical science operates within. For instance, banning a book on physical science, no matter how “cranky” it might seem, is virtually unimaginable in the physical sciences, except if it begins stepping on the toes of medical science, as Reich did. Then, medical science officials rather gleefully have book burnings. As Reich watched the FDA burn his books, he remarked that the Third Reich burned his books, and he never expected to see his books burned again, especially in the “Land of the Free”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#burned1

But in the early 1970s, I was unaware of the inquisitions that medical science could engage in; I just knew that my father had accomplished the “impossible,” according to White Science. It was about the same time that I obtained Frank Edwards’s books on strange events in the world that White Science could not explain. I remember watching TV shows such as The Sixth Sense and Ghost Story, and like impressionable youth, I thought the shows had something to them. As I grew up, however, and advanced in my math and science curriculum, I began to discard that paranormal stuff as Hollywood and childhood fantasies. By the time I was fifteen, the stories of Christianity made little sense to me, and I began calling myself an atheist. When I turned sixteen, my parents sent me to Europe for two months on an art-culture tour:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

and at about the same time, my first professional mentor’s engine began making big waves in the federal government:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

The furor quickly died down, as political-economic realities intruded once again. I did not know it at the time, but when that engine was creating a furor, a high-ranking government official told Mr. Mentor that if he thought that his engine was going to make the internal combustion engine obsolete, that he had better begin making his funeral plans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

When a U.S. Senator called Mr. Mentor repeatedly about having Congressional hearings about getting his engine developed, the “make your funeral plans” advice rang in his ears, but also, like with all inventors that I ever knew, he was concerned that having Congressional hearings would jeopardize his commercial rights to the invention. He just had to own it. He was the closest thing to an altruistic inventor that I ever met, but money was a big part of his motivation, I am sorry to say. A company in Southern California built an engine based on Mr. Mentor’s design a few years later (of course, without giving him any credit :) ), and drove it in the Rose Bowl parade, as they announced that they were going to revolutionize the automobile industry. Ten years later, I may have heard of their fate, which I was coming to find out was not unusual when applied science comes up against entrenched economic interests:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#car

But when I was sixteen-to-seventeen and the engine began to die a quiet death, that was when I began dreaming of changing the energy industry, and I clearly recall thinking that some shadowy interests might not welcome such innovation, but they did not have a right to keep such things from the public. Nevertheless, I kept up with my math and science studies. My science teachers expected me to do great things in my scientific career. I seemed to be the kind of student that a teacher might see once or twice in a generation. I clearly recall that expectation from my teachers, several of whom I encountered many years after I was no longer their student. It continued into college, too, and my fellow students also had that expectation, like I was going to win a Noble Prize one day. As I recall those days and expectations, my ego was not too wrapped up in it; it was just more of the expectation that my parents had for me since I was small, and I guess that I did not want to disappoint them. I accepted the role of the family hero, which is a common affliction of first-born children (Dennis, Mr. Professor and I were all first-borns). That expectation coming from all those directions must have put some kind of pressure on me, but all I can really recall is that I was destined to do great things, and I had better not screw it up.

My fascination with those anomalies that science could not explain was gradually replaced with a no-nonsense attitude, which my trip to Europe and Mr. Mentor’s engine further reinforced…until a fateful day in the autumn of 1974, when my father and brother came home one night and said that they just came from a class where they learned how to see auras, and they then proceeded to describe mine. It blew me away, but not in an “I don’t believe it” way, but in a “Really!?” way, as in, “Is it something that I can learn, too?” A couple of weeks later, I took the same class and participated in and witnessed spectacular events that eventually expanded my universe of the possible to nearly infinite dimensions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#aura

I did not know it at the time, but right then, I was wrecked, as far as becoming a White Scientist. I had seen with my own eyes that the materialistic presumptions of science were false, and anybody who invested a little time and money could see it, too. As I think back on those days, I don’t think that I was ready to throw away my incipient scientific career yet, but it was more like opening a door to a different universe than I was being trained to investigate. That Silva class initiated my mystical awakening, and I studied spirituality more avidly than my science studies, and that is saying something. I also doubted that they were mutually-exclusive, but that there was an entire branch of science waiting to be explored. So, for the next few years, I was a White Scientist-in-training by day, and an avid student of spirituality by night.

Among my earliest mystical books was The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ, which was my daily bedside reading for years, which heavily conflicted with the Christian view of Master Jesus. In 1977, for the second and last time in my life, my father handed me a book to read, and it was Richard Bach’s Illusions, which I regard as his masterpiece. I also became aware of a series of books that were new on the scene, by a woman in upstate New York named Jane Roberts, and a non-physical entity named Seth spoke through her. Although “speaking in tongues” is as old as the Bible, and The Aquarian Gospel was allegedly written in a trance state while accessing the Akashic records, the Seth phenomenon was quite an event in the West. Back then, the term “channeling” was not yet coined, and I believe that what Jane was doing was called being a “spiritual medium” back then. Those three works comprised my most significant early mystical influences, and nearly forty years later, all of them hold up extremely well, and I would wholeheartedly recommend them as some of the best mystical writings to be found. The Aquarian Gospel was quite old and Illusions was a one-off, but the Seth phenomenon was ongoing in those days, and I was one of many who eagerly awaited the next books that Jane/Seth wrote.

I and many others regard Seth’s The Nature of Personal Reality as his masterwork, and I remember breaking my brain on The Unknown Reality. When Jane died in 1984, I figured that that was the end of work like that. Stupendous works such as The Ra Material, the Michael Material and others were only beginning in the early 1980s, and Shirley MacLaine did not stumble into the Bodhi Tree bookstore and initiate the New Age scene until 1983. By the late 1990s, my channeled library comprised well over a hundred books and huge stacks of channeled magazines, but in the late 1970s, Seth was the 800-pound gorilla of that emerging scene, and still is about the best that the milieu has to offer.

My zeal toward my expanding horizons was regularly in evidence. When we went “health nut” in 1970, my father tried to spread the gospel of live food to friends, family and co-workers. Most listened politely (and only one person embraced it, one of my father’s co-workers, and had similar health miracles), but when I tried to tell my friends, I was shocked at the violent reactions that I received. I quickly learned that people do not want to hear that their additions are harmful, and the addictions of processed food comprise perhaps the final frontier of substance addictions, and the USA is deeply in its thrall today, with Earth’s fattest humans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#sloth

But I was still a long way from really figuring it out. I bought about 35 copies of The Aquarian Gospel and handed them out to family and friends. It took me years to understand that Christians did not welcome another version of Jesus’s life, no matter how enlightened and inspiring the account could be. The Jesus in The Aquarian Gospel was a mystical master second to none. The “miracles” of the Bible were regularly in evidence in The Aquarian Gospel, but that Jesus did not do those things to raise himself into a deific figure, but to show what all people were capable of. Even The New Testament’s Jesus said the people would one day exceed his mystical “feats,” as those abilities were everybody’s birthright. I slowly came to realize that Christianity is the cult of Jesus, and nobody is more fanatical than cult members. Organized religion is the ultimate in hero-worship. Victims seek heroes to take on the bad guys and save us all, and all organized religions are united in their victim-oriented perspectives that turned the subject of the religion into the world’s hero. The “funny” thing about organized religion is that the greatest religious figures, Jesus and Buddha, actually protested the religious establishments of their days, did not leave behind any “holy” writings, and certainly did not want to be worshipped. But the “priesthood” quickly corrupted the teachings of the masters, usually beginning with their pupils, who did not really understand. The New Testament is filled with examples of Jesus’s disciples just not “getting it,” over and over.

I would later see that those dynamics were not confined to religion, but the history of science was strangely littered with similar tales, but it would take me many years to clearly see it. One of my early indicators was Carl Sagan and the “skeptics.” That first remote viewing experience in Silva was only the introduction to many incredible events that I either witnessed or participated in. I healed (and seemingly killed) with a touch, and I know immensely accomplished psychics who have bent spoons, healed AIDS with a touch, visited other dimensions and brought back useful scientific information, and so on. I have experienced the hot hands phenomenon:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=194267&viewfull=1#post194267

and when I see people burn paper with their bare hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAB0dbc3Es

I know that it is “just” from honing those inherent abilities of all of us to “world class” levels. In those Silva classes that I took in 1974 and afterward, we often used galvanic skin response devices (which predated those biofeedback machines that became popular in the 1980s), and it was undeniable to any thinking person with their eyes open in the slightest that that psychic phenomena was real. I participated in many amazing readings. My specialty was being an empath, where I would “wear the head” of those I read, which often ended up with incredible “hits,” but I would also feel their physical afflictions and even adopt their body posture – people I had never heard of or met before – to the amazement of the audience.

I did experiments where I was able to psychically mummify fruits and vegetables, with them lasting months without rotting. Fringe science laboratories were also able to reproduce that phenomenon with focusing crystal and other energies. Brian O did that kind of experimentation in his early days of exploring fringe science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#marcel

I saw startling evidence of pyramid energy in those days:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=201370&viewfull=1#post201370

and experienced many similar events. Evidence for the abilities of consciousness not recognized by White Science was simply overwhelming for the sincere seeker. I was performing “impossible” feats regularly, as well as witnessing them, but one day my father told me that I should not hold my breath that establishment science was going to wake up to psychic phenomena anytime soon. He said that there was a movement led by Carl Sagan that sought to attack, discredit, and destroy any evidence of those abilities. I was around eighteen or nineteen years old when I first heard it, and I had a hard time understanding their position. What I was seeing and reproducing could readily be subjected to controlled experiments, and the results would be dramatic and unequivocal, even though they seemed to contradict the materialistic assumptions of consciousness.

Either Carl Sagan and friends were really stupid, or there was something else happening, and I confess that I really did not know what to think about the “skeptics” at the time. I was still idealistic and naïve, and thought that everybody could eventually see the truth, even if it did not align with their philosophical assumptions. How exhilarating my mystical studies were! I could not see why so many people dismissed it or were openly fearful of it. One fanatical Christian friend said that the author of The Aquarian Gospel was a demon. I really had a hard time understanding that position, and it took me many years to finally understand what the religious fanatics and “skeptics” had in common: fear. I suppose that my well-meaning and idealistic zeal served me well in many ways, because it led me down paths where I could have experiences that removed all doubt about what I was seeing. Without that overgrown Boy Scout naïveté, I would never have walked the path to where I finally understood.

I clearly recall my early attempts to unite what I was learning. By day, I was taking calculus, chemistry, biology, and other intense subjects, and reading The Aquarian Gospel by night. I wish I had saved them, but I wrote some interesting essays in my Philosophy 101 class, where I was trying to unite science, mysticism and the great philosophers under one roof. I am sure they would make me shake my head and smile today, if I could read my naïve, embryonic attempts, but those efforts eventually found flower in my writings today, for better or worse. :)

For all of my academic achievements, by the time I was twenty I was ready to throw it all away for love. I began dating my first serious girlfriend when I was nineteen, and was with her when I had my radical change from science to business, when that voice piped up when asked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

I met her at work and went to the same community college. The college, our workplace (in food service in a retirement home, and I later took a job as a janitor in law and accounting offices just down the street from the retirement home), and her house were all within a stone’s throw of each other. I was a track star, played the stock market like a wild man, and was living large. Those were some of my life’s happiest years.

I was at the top of the class in my business studies, and she was an agricultural major and planned to attend UC Davis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uc_davis

Davis did not have an undergraduate business school, so I planned to attend nearby Berkeley, so I could continue the relationship. I wanted to get married, in my puppy love. She then decided to attend another college with an agriculture program, Cal Poly at San Luis Obispo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Poly_San_Luis_Obispo

and it had a business school. I did not even care if the business school was good or not; I was going there. I never even saw the campus until we moved there, with us assigned to the same dormitory, with my room a floor above hers.

A couple of weeks before we moved away to university life, she had me take the hot human potential class at the time, EST. I had a great time at the class, but soon saw that EST was a Werner Erhard cult, with the EST people quickly turning EST into a religion. It was the last human potential class that I took; I knew that I had all the tools that I needed – the trick was using them.

There I was, sailing along, happy as a clam, living next to my sweetie, and a week after moving into the dorms she dumped me! My parents divorced the previous year, and it was an ugly divorce, and my girlfriend’s mother died earlier that year, but getting dumped like that was my first emotionally devastating loss. It was good for me, however, as I realized how emotionally-dependent I was on her and our relationship, and I vowed to not let that happen again; it was not good for either of us. As fate would have it, Cal Poly had a highly reputable business school, and I got record test scores on the national accounting exam, and my college roomies all became my friends for life. But soon after she dumped me, I decided that I wanted to move home – and not to Ventura where I was raised, but to Seattle where I was born and all of my relatives lived, other than my parents. I had only a few wilderness experiences in Washington’s Cascade Mountains, but I was hooked.

When it came time to graduate, I “picked” the worst recession in forty years to graduate, in 1981. While the large, prestigious accounting firms rolled out the red carpet for me in Los Angeles, I wanted nothing to do with LA, that big, dirty city that I only went to when I had to. I tried to get into those big firms in Seattle, and failed. I then decided that living where I wanted to trumped my career, so I hired on with a small CPA firm in Seattle, living with my grandparents, and worked a brutal tax season before they laid me off soon after the tax filing deadline for American taxpayers. I then crawled back to California, defeated, and hired on with one of the large CPA firms in downtown LA, and proceeded to have the three unhappiest years of my life:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

But all along, I was quite the mystical student, and that dream of changing the energy industry gnawed at me. During those years, I participated in meditation and healing groups, and hiked in the Sierras whenever I could (with some hair-raising experiences http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=196769&highlight=glacier#post196769 ). One thing that I noticed early on was how many pretenders were in the developing “New Age” scene. All manner of “guru” and New Age leader began appearing, and the standard story was that they milked their followers of money and attention, and the male leaders nearly invariably built their New Age harems:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

often with a woman seeker in every town, as they worked the New Age expo tours. It was really disappointing to see that happen, but it was the standard story, repeated ad infinitum, and I suppose that that was when I began to learn that mystical ability certainly did not confer integrity. Those New Age hucksters are going to have “interesting” afterlives, most likely. So it is, in a world of scarcity.

During those LA years, one pal began to build a high MPG carburetor in his garage:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1

I visited him, as he was building it with another grizzled engineer. They wisely ceased their efforts when they discovered that the patents for that kind of carburetor were all owned by large industrial corporations, with the Detroit automobile companies dominating. I was beginning to see how the land laid for applied White Science that ran afoul of the huge industries. I heard of a few more instances of suppression of high MPG carburetors, where after trying to buy the inventor out, the shadowy parties said, “Then we are taking it from you, and there is nothing you can do about it, if you value your life.” I began hearing enough of those stories that I began to take them seriously, but I was also not quite sure what to make of them.

OK, I have a busy day ahead of me, and a big hike tomorrow, so signing off for now. It will likely take a week of posts to get this done, but I may make another one or two before the long weekend is over. This narrative has yet to get where my learning curve began to insanely steepen, after I met Dennis.

Yesterday, I was hiking with my wife on a spring day that was nothing short of heavenly. My old camera cannot do it justice, but I am attaching a photo from yesterday to give a glimpse of it. My life does not get any better than that.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
29th May 2012, 14:12
Hello Wade,

Another one of your very detailed dive deep posts, you are killing us softly :)


Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "
"The goal of pure science is admirable, but no science has ever been conducted independent of politics, economics, the state of technology, and so forth, so pure science has never been “purely” pursued. Scientific findings are heavily dependent on the scientists themselves."

Saying that, the study of CONSCIOUSNESS if ever will be conducted in any serious manner, could be considered as 'pure science' since it is devoid from any of the above relations. (although it does depend, as like everything else, on the scientists themselvs)

Interesting to know that your father was recruited to work at NASA's mission control in Huston after graduating an engeneering degree, was there any prior connection between your family and NASA? something in between, or was it a pure 'luck'.. I have yet to delve in your website and the answer might be there (although I have heard its like finding a needle in a haystack ;)

Your father's changing into raw food diet and healing his health problems is quite exceptional for those days. medical care even today, puts very little emphasis on nutrition, and even if it does, it is done in a somewhat shallow way. not a hint to all the poisonous effects of colorings and preservatives which are standard in our food, and not a lot of indication that the quality of the 'fuel' that we put in our bodies is one of the main factors that determine our quality of lives. it is suffice to say that outside pollution (in all its various forms) is also not emphasised enough by the medical science, let alone the pollution of our thoughts... now that can really be considered an 'advanced science', more like a a science fiction, maybe.

Wade and others here have mentioned quite a couple of times, how you were all impacted by the 'Seth Material' presented and channeled by Jane Roberts.
The same was with me. I became acquainted with the Seth's material when I was 19 during my military service. A friend took me to a 'new age' gallery-shop which I reluctantly agreed to enter, while waiting for her, I approached the bookshelf, and there it was, waiting for me.
'The Seth material' - Jane's first book was such a fascinating reading that I had to come back for the other three books in the series (only four were translated to Hebrew), it is almost the only book that I ever refused to loan or take out from my home, untill I put my hands on some additional copies. It opened my perceptions and was like a bang in the face, reminding me of the real reality which I once upon a time was acquainted with. it also helped me with my anxiety when being around people and with the death of my beloved grandmother, who was the only adult that helped me keep my sanity back then, only by being herself. This initial encounter allowed me to dissolve a small piece of the amnesia that we all agreed to take upon ourselves (again and again, Brrrr) when we enter this planet earth. and I remember reading the books about three or four times (and still do) before I really started to grasp the picture.

Some fated synchronicities happened to me back than even though I was not 'awake' the same as I am today, and some distant knowledge of the fact that energy IS basically the essence of everything has began to form in me. therefore, Wade's various experiences described by him, for example, mummifying fruits and vegetables so that they do not rot, is somewhat surprising, but not astounding.

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I happened to watch this documantry : 'Natural world - A farm for the future' (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/farm-for-the-future/), about six month ago, and I think it is an excellent film (done by Rebecca Hosking)

(excerpt from bbc.co.uk):
"Rebecca, returns to her family’s wildlife-friendly farm in Devon, to become the next generation to farm the land. But last year’s high fuel prices were a wake-up call for her. Realising that all food production in the UK is completely dependent on abundant cheap fossil fuel, particularly oil, she sets out to discover just how secure this oil supply is."

This film sheds some important light and gives special clarity to the problems that our modern world (concentrating mostly on farming and agriculture) is threatened with in the very near future while we continue to use fossil fuels in our industry. also done enjoyably and with some beautiful scenery, so it's worth to watch. Those 48 minutes are well spent, especially for those (like myself) who would like to learn where the problem begins.

If you dont have the time, please take a look at the short segment between 07:18 and 09:30 minutes, Wade has wrote about it many times


If we only knew how much energy is invested in our... sandwich
(our sandwich for lunch is dripping in oil)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xShCEKL-mQ8



Thank you for the great picture, Wade. it has this nourishing quality to it and It shows Nature in all its glory. These are beautiful days, not for nothing they call it ' The darling buds of may'. and it sounds like you have access to a very beautiful part of nature.
I live very far from nature, I am surrounded by concrete and unpretty buildings, by noise and pollution. Whenever my heart yearns for nature (all the time) , I am taking little breaks to breath some fresh air and rejuvenate in the nearest garden (20-30 minutes walk), and I feel that the trees, shrubs and birds are welcoming me as an old friend.

I have managed to capture a few of those enchanting spring moments a couple of days ago, in an especially lovely morning, it was one of those rare days of the year. I have uploaded some photos to my page at Avalon.





Blessings

~^&*~^&

Limor


p.s

I have tried to purchese Brian Oleary's 'miracles in the void' from Amazon, but recieved a reply that it can not be shipped to my destination, can someone maybe suggest another distributer to try and acquire this book from?

I am sorry for my many English mistakes in this post and in others

CdnSirian
29th May 2012, 14:44
Limor thanks for the film link, I will definitely catch it later.

Limor and Wade thanks for sharing your pics! Both beautiful places to mentally walk into...

Limor Barnes and Noble has Brian O'Leary's book - I believe they will ship anywhere.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/miracle-in-the-void-b-oleary/1014662076?ean=9781893157194

You can also request from the publisher if you have a Nook, and download it.

http://www.ufotv.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=UFOTV&Product_Code=K484 Miracle of The Void DVD -- hard to tell if there are shipping restrictions from this site.

Fred Steeves
29th May 2012, 18:43
Wade and others here have mentioned quite a couple of times, how you were impacted by the 'Seth Material' presented and channeled by Jane Roberts.
The same was with me. I became acquainted with the Seth's material when I was 19 during my military service. A friend took me to a 'new age' gallery-shop which I reluctantly agreed to enter, while waiting for her, I approached the bookshelf, and there it was, waiting for me.
'The Seth material' - Jane's first book was such a fascinating reading that I had to come back for the other three books in the series (only four were translated to Hebrew), it is almost the only book that I ever refused to loan or take out from my home, untill I put my hands on some additional copies. It opened my perceptions and was like a bang in the face,


Oh yeah, when my dear grandmother died in 2007, I said a little silent prayer of sorts on the way to help clean out her house. I wasn't interested in the antiques, the jewelry and sorts, I was looking to stumble across a treasure of a different sort, something that might have a profound affect on my life. So the little prayer was inviting that to occur.

I found it pretty quick. The "good stuff" was already mostly gone, but what I was looking for remained waiting, and untouched. The old bookshelf in the guest bedroom that contained all of the "weird" books she had collected back in the 70's. Lots of the original books by people I had never heard of like Edgar Cayce, Robert Monroe, and Jane Roberts. The treasures came home, and my little world began it's expansion.

I eventually decided that Roberts' book "Adventures in Consciousness. An Introduction to Aspect Psychology", was the hands down winner of the bunch. It seems rather basic to me now, but at the time her Aspect Psycholoy nearly blew the roof off my fragile eggshell mind. That time was certainly not the grand awakening, but it was a vital building block towards that eventuality. I'm sure my grandmother got quite the chuckle watching her treasured books being dumped into a big box, and setting off for their new home, and their new and unsuspecting reader.

Cheers,
Fred

Melinda
29th May 2012, 21:22
That's such a lovely grandmother story Fred :)

I just arrived at page 61 of this thread today and was uplifted by another mention of Grandmother Wisdom :) So hopefully you can forgive this latecomer for her enthusiasm over earlier posts. I almost didn't post this (as it's another long one) but grandmothers are so inspiring!

I'm not a mother, but I have often felt that there's a certain kind of wisdom/knowing/connection-with-life that for many of us can only be understood by becoming parents. That same growth of heartfelt understanding can then be taken to a new level with becoming a grandparent. It's not to say that the pool of understanding can't be tapped without having children, and having a child is not necessarily an experience that's best for all of us in each lifetime. But a symptom of the upside-down world and 'living in an age that calls darkness light' issue that has been addressed in this thread is the way in which the elders are sidelined. They are often tidied away into shadowy corners of family life, left to slumber and mumble their way towards their final days. It's no surprise, when this is done, that they retreat into a painful world of lethargy and even resentment. If the elder then turns into the person that's expected of them, the one with little of value to add, it is likely because they were dressed in that role.

Sadly, economic scarcity only increases the pressure on people who have elderly people to tend to. But I've sometimes wondered if part of this separation set in after the 2 world wars. Many people who went on to become the family elders were traumatised by what they'd experienced and their younger relatives had no frame of reference for the dark depths of that experience. Perhaps part of sidelining them was a form of unconscious denial, because it was too much to deal with.

My old neighbour passed away last year. For the last 5 years of his life I would often find him at the bottom of the communal stairs; recuperating in the dark before summoning the will to attempt the climb up to his apartment. He lived alone and would often tell me, in a tired tone, how he hadn't got long to go on this earth. I would swing the conversation around to the state of the world and politics (a subject he enjoyed) and he would suddenly access the vigour and humour of his younger years. Occasionally he would get so fired up I almost expected him (enthused by a mix of anger and compassion for the world) to march powerfully up the stairs - as opposed to the slow stair-by-stair crawl he'd been reduced to over time. Those moments of renewed spark were energising for both of us. After all, I may be old one day, and like to think I'll still be of enough interest for someone somewhere to want to righteously debate with :) He may have, in his lonelier moments, wrongly assumed I was just passing time; but mostly my talks with him were the most soul-searching and world-encompassing of the day, or even the week. He'd lived long enough to have regrets, and long enough to consider them from different perspectives. He still cared - and would relish the chance to express it when the conversation was an abundant exchange, as would I.

One of the things that a free-energy culture could assist with is the healing of that wound in our bond with the elders. Many afflictions that are mentally and physically debilitating can be cured, giving people back their bodies and their sanity. It is painful to watch someone trapped in a disease when their soul and spirit still long to be actively engaged again with their family and with life. It is even more painful when you know the cures may well exist. Medical debates aside, there is simply no excuse for an elderly person to die prematurely because they couldn't afford to pay a heating bill - something that still breaks my heart when it's reported in the news. It's hard to know in those moments if it was the cold or the sense of despair that sealed their fate. I like to picture an FE world, where all the elders who choose to live in homes are warmed or cooled to their hearts' content. Free to wonder into their garden and take comfort in nature, instead of being afraid to move from under their blanket for fear their body can't take the drop in temperature. I feel like we owe them, and ourselves, so much more than that. It's great to share in an FE vision that includes honouring the older members of our global community. A healed free-energy world could naturally draw them back to their rightful place, where experience and wisdom is no longer threatening to a world in denial, but an uplifting and dynamic aspect of the fold, something that grounds us again in the cycle of life.

The 20th Century has been unique in recent history in terms of the scale of technological advancement and its scale of impact on our consciousness. I've often pondered the fact that an 80 year old watching men land on the moon in 1969 may well have grown up chasing horse-drawn carts through the main roads of their childhood. Then I think of what 'black science' is capable of and the leap is even more horizon-widening. One of my little visions for an FE world is giving the elders the chance to experience the 5 minute long thousands-of-miles flights that could come with advanced FE flight technology. Elders from all over the world could meet with ease for healing meditations - a point that reminds me of the wonderful film Fire on the Mountain - A Gathering of Shamans, that documents that kind of a gathering.

Coming back around to Grandmothers, I was reminded of this movie, For The Next 7 Generations:
Trailer link - http://www.forthenext7generations.com/trailer.php

This is a link to a clip from the movie - http://vimeo.com/6580394
The clip is a sample of Grandmother Bernadette's story - She is a healer and a teacher who talks about saving the natural environment, which she refers to as our "pharmacy."

She says: "Once we... inside of ourselves are truly healed, everything else arrives... In my life I am quite optimistic... I believe in what I do. Even if there are difficulties I go ahead... I confront these difficulties. I face these difficulties. When I saw all these mothers together and all these grandmothers coming from all the different directions together, speaking with one voice for the cause of their children, the cause of their grandchildren, I believed. I truly believed at that time. It's true that life is not easy, but together we will arrive. This is the message of the grandmothers."

sandy
30th May 2012, 00:55
Wow, what wonderful contributions!

Thank you for all the wonderful Free Energy and for filling my tank with all the goodness. :)

My Gardening partner (86 year old wonderful being) has been ill for a while now and our gardening plans were scrapped for this year at my insistence due to her health. She was relieved as I could tell she was not wanting to disappoint me, and kept saying we will get planting as soon as it warms up enough, but her health is the priority and that is the bottom line>>>>>She is a great, great, Grandma and has quite a bit of family who do look out for her, thus I drove her to her daughters (another town) yesterday so they can help her with the medical cycles she is stuck in......I miss her already :(

Canada might have medicare for all but often seniors are ignored as they are "old " and not long for the world anyway. This attitude permeates more than the medical field in general and the loss of our elders wisdom is another tragedy the world has yet to learn.

Love the pics and nature and wisdom learned and shared from great books and I too had to read many of Seths books over and over sentence by sentence to formulate what was being said>>>>....struggle with reading comprehension all my life so one can imagine what Seth's Books did to my brain..:rolleyes:

Wade Frazier
30th May 2012, 03:10
Hi:

All these posts are going to interrupt my science posts for a moment.

Hi Limor:

No, there was no prior relationship with NASA with my family. Most people that I am aware of in the Space Race were not there because they had some inside track, but because they were talented (we avidly hired death camp Nazis who became Space Race heroes http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#nazi ). It was the biggest “public” White Science project of all time, and they needed the best talent they could get to pull it off. There was intense competition at the astronaut level, for instance. In other areas, they just scoured the USA for talent, and that is how my father ended up in Mission Control. I’ll say no more about that for now, but it was definitely not an “insider” situation.

Campbell in that clip is a prominent Peak Oiler, and you know how I feel about them.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm

Anybody who follows the Peak Oiler prescriptions is going to be playing the austerity game. FE would make that woman farmer’s entire framework change so radically that it would be unrecognizable to how she sees things today.

Yes, modern “medicine” does not emphasize true prevention, and there is a method to their madness. If people actually practiced prevention, most of the medical system would become obsolete quite quickly. That can become very painfully evident when you immerse yourself in the milieu. My odyssey on the health front was in some ways more impactful than my energy adventures:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

The study of consciousness may never be a “pure science” because of its real-world applications. While White Science is in deep denial about consciousness, Black Science sure isn’t. An email that I wrote to Bill he used as kind of my byline in my Camelot interview:

http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html

I am somewhat aware of the Black Science world. A lot of it is evil, and great abuses of consciousness are part of their MO. Keeping White Science in complete denial of the source and abilities of consciousness has long been one of the goals of Black Science. I will get to that in later posts on this theme.

Yes, Seth is a giant. I had a lot of interaction with another Seth long ago (likely the same entity, different channel), and it was fun, which I will also cover in this series of posts, and have somewhat before on this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=260477&viewfull=1#post260477

I would recommend Brian’s last book for interested readers. It largely covers the territory of Miracle in the Void and a lot more. It is titled The Energy Solution Revolution. I believe that Brian’s family plans to make all of his books available electronically. I am sure that Brian’s site mails all over the world:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Store.html

Sorry you live in the big city far from nature. Pretty pic that you attached. I have always felt that living here is compensation for my journey, but I hope that I am not just being fattened up for the slaughter. :)

I am attaching a photo from yesterday’s jaunt. That waterfall and pool is beside an old logging road, where not one person a month sees that waterfall. There were several waterfalls seen on our hike, some hundreds of feet tall, and nobody at all around to see them. We owned the vicinity, meaning at least twenty miles of logging roads and trails that laced a group of mountains that were scalped by the loggers before I was born and the forest won’t recover for hundreds of years, if it is not logged again.

In the watery Pacific Northwest, there is an embarrassment of those kinds of riches. I have been at waterfalls that would be national treasures in most of the world’s nations, but I would be the only person there. For instance, the top four falls on this list are all in wilderness areas:

http://www.waterfallsnorthwest.com/nws/best.php

and the first and third are so deep into rugged wilderness that almost nobody ever sees them. Getting into Green and Berdeen lakes was on my list in my 20s, (see this gorgeous photo http://www.alpinestateofmind.com/keyword/alpine%20lake/1/642727510_daTJH#!i=638541621&k=BYs75 , and you can see both in this photo, to give an idea how rugged the terrain is http://www.alpinestateofmind.com/keyword/alpine%20lake/1/642727510_daTJH#!i=642727510&k=daTJH ) and I knew that my adventures with Dennis would likely mean that I would be too old to do those lakes (and a few others, such as Azure) whenever I was able to live back in the Seattle area, and I was right. I actually tried to get into Azure when I was 42, and the attached picture was taken with Azure in the background and just before a two-day snowstorm hit, in early September (the route in was along that mountain on the right (to my left) - truly death defying - this pic was taken from about the same spot http://www.russwoodward.com/NC/azure50.JPG ). That is likely as close as I will get to any of those lakes, and I am OK with that, in my advancing age. The hike in the easy woods with my wife was more fulfilling than a hike through some remote country with a pal, on a manly trip that kicked my tail, which took the wind out of my sails on the writing front (I let a friend guide some trips, but he tends to get lost, and we did yesterday). I have been to these falls: http://www.waterfallsnorthwest.com/nws/image_new.php?num=5297 with friends, and it is an easy half-mile walk through stupendous virgin forest (12-foot diameter trunks on the Douglas Firs), and we owned it. Nobody else was there, and it was a Sunday in June.

Yes, Wandering Ponderer, there is plenty to say about grannies and the like, and I do it plenty. My first steady job was working in food service in a retirement home (where I worked for three years), where the average age of my “customers” was over eighty. I lived with my grandparents for six months, and those were blessed times for me.

Gotta run.

More science posts soon.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
30th May 2012, 07:46
Hi,

Those photos are breathtaking, The 'Alpine state of mind' and the waterfall pictures are an examples of the true expression of this planet, when there are not so many who are 'owning it'. It looks as if it has the touch of god. It is so interesting that the divinity of nature is almost always so clear and can be immediatly detected by the eye and the soul whereas the divinity of our human nature is much more hidden :) but we are all basically part of Nature.

Thank you CdnSirian for the link of Barnes and Noble, reading Wade's suggestion saying that Brian Oleary's book 'Energy Solution Revolution' already contains parts of the 'Miracles of the void' , I think that will be good enough for me for the moment. The ESR book is about to arrive in three weeks. I remember thinking about whether to purchase it at the three days of Bill's Zurich conference in 2009, and then, on the last day while I finally decided, all copies were already sold . But ,I believe everything has timing and mine is now. I believe yours as well :) To put it as honestly as possible, Brian ,as a person made a great impact as soon as he entered the hall of the conference. he had an aura that could not be missed and a gentle but firm presence, very much loving. to me, He stood out amongst all other participants, even though he was not able to say all he wanted to. He played the piano for the audience! How many scientists do that...? (and it put the audience and more importantly the Agents in the audience in the right state of mind :D )

I personally payed attention to free energy since then, But Wade is directing it into yet another level, a higher one that points to the solution. And may all the Oleary's and the Mullove's of the world be with him in spirit. It is time to gather momentum on the Energy field -mainly on the solution part, the planet can not seem to stand it too much longer, and who can blame her.. (self sacrificing herself) ? As an average person with no qualification whatsoever, all I can do is to have a vision, and it feels as if our desires here (all the participants in this thread and hopefully the readers as well) are strong!

About the Documantry and Campbell, yes, I am sorry, it is more of a proper description of the problems than the method of solutions you are referring to, Wade.
This thread is sometimes derailed by our various responses, diverting it a little from the importance of the scientific and historical perspectives and from the twisting of events that lead Wade to the deep understanding of how FE implementation can be done. It all might be a silly attempt of a 'dreamers', but it might be not. 'The dreamer dreams the dream' and FE should be a 'common property in the hands of wisdom rather than in the hands of cleverness. and so shall it be.

and in the spirit of peace, harmony and abundant energies here is another example of the divine quality of nature


May the divine be apparent in everyone and everything, no exceptions whatsoever



Limor

Wade Frazier
30th May 2012, 15:20
Hi Limor:

Glad that you got to be in Brian’s presence. Yes, he is a gentle soul that brought the light when he was here. His piano playing was actually quite good. His Maui Suite CD is good stuff. Thanks for the pic. Attached is of a childhood friend I brought to Lyman Basin, where my will says to scatter my ashes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/pics.htm#lyman

Yes, when enough of us can wisely focus our hearts and minds on the solution, it will quickly come.

OK, back to science and technology…

That incredible moment when I was nineteen and asked for guidance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

initiated the next eight years of my life, which ended up with me working in hell in LA. It began happily enough, but being dumped by my first love, burning out on academia during my last year in college, graduating during a recession and working in hell in a profession that I had a hard time believing in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

took a toll on me. During my last year in LA, I was suffering from stress symptoms. I could not draw a full lung of air for a year, continually gasping. I eventually went to a doctor who said that I was suffering from classic stress symptoms and he advised me to quit my job. I had already tried to find work in Seattle the summer before, in 1985, and could not land anything, and was resigned to living in LA to save up a war chest so that I could look for work for a year in Seattle. The Seattle economy was a vastly different one than today. In 1983, Apple’s Macintosh came out, my company bought three thousand of them, and it was my first personal computer that I had to lug around to clients (to be young and strong! :) ). The software we used was from some new company in Seattle named Microsoft. Nobody had really heard of Bill Gates yet.

Several dynamics converged in February 1986, and I felt backed into a corner, shaking from stress, dreading the next day, with dark rings under my eyes. So for the second and so far last time in my life, I prayed for guidance, and the next morning the voice came through again, and I was on my way to Seattle, and if it took me a year to find work, that was OK. I was ecstatic to be leaving LA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

I seriously thought about camping out on Microsoft’s front steps until they hired me. I was one programming class away from going into computer consulting instead of accounting, and I am a systems thinker:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#vision

I’ll bet I could have landed a job with them; I was very interested in it, and if I had, I would not be working for a living today, but would have become one of the Microsoft zillionaires. They had not yet launched their IPO when I moved to Seattle. But the voice had other plans for me, and ten days after that voice suggested that I move to Seattle, I was interviewing at Dennis’s company. Dennis later said that I was shaking in the interview, which was a product of my stress problems and my excitement.

The day I met Dennis and he hired me, he gave a speech at the Seattle Center, and I was able to walk there from my grandparents’ house on Queen Anne Hill:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#hired

Dennis is quite a public speaker, and from the moment my grandmother told me that I had a call:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#call

I was on fire. I received one paycheck before the company ran out of money, but I happily worked long hours for months, for free as it turned out, reconstructing the company’s accounting records. I really did not know how Dennis’s heat pump really worked until I got to Boston, but in Seattle I began to learn about the business of breaking into the market with disruptive energy technology. The entrenched interests do not take kindly to it. :)

I did not really find out about Dennis’s past much until I moved to Boston later that year, but I began to slowly learn what Dennis was up against in Seattle. When I first interviewed with the company, they were in the factory where they made their heat pumps that they installed as the boom was being lowered on them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#chase

The new facility they were in when I hired on with them was a 300-meter-long factory, with the offices at the front of it, which is the standard factory configuration. Dennis announced that he was creating an inventor’s sanctuary, and he was planning on making electricity and competing directly with the electric companies, not just selling energy conservation equipment. When his employee died at the hands of the corporate hit man:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=414784&highlight=colleen#post414784

Dennis became radicalized and declared war on the Washington electric companies. Then he got taken out pretty quickly, and I walked into the middle of it, guided by that damned voice. As Dennis was flailing around, trying to keep the company alive, he went to the Deep South and met with Joe Newman’s entourage. It was the first time that I heard of free energy. Joe was a hyper-Christian, as was Dennis, and Dennis desperately wanted to work with Joe, but Joe was not interested. There certainly appeared to be something to Joe’s technology (the magnetics route to FE), but he was going the patent route, trying to raise money, and the usual path that I have seen countless times over the years. Joe never went anywhere with his technology, and I consider him to be the first FE casualty that I knew of, as he succumbed to delusions of grandeur and kind of lost his mind over the years.

While Dennis was trying to keep his company alive amidst the death blows, there was one inventor in particular in his sanctuary, whom I call Mr. Inventor in my writings. Up until then, I saw inventors as the true heroes of the Industrial Revolution, heavily influenced by Mr. Mentor and his inventive genius buddies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

My experiences with Mr. Inventor began to change my perceptions. And at this point in the narrative, I need to stress that I cannot adequately relate the learning experiences that I received, because they came so fast and furiously. While I worked for free in the spring of 1986, other than Dennis and a few other people, there really was not much to do for the rest of the people I saw hanging around the facility. The company had largely been destroyed by the sledgehammer the year before, and it was in its death throes, although Dennis was doing all he could to keep it alive. I was generally oblivious to all of that in those days.

But in June 1986, my boss made his play to steal Dennis’s company, allying himself with the people who sold Dennis their shell company to take Dennis’s company public. I was shocked on several levels to watch my boss commit that crime, and what was perhaps more shocking was seeing the people that I worked with play along with the theft. There are too many shocking events to relate in this post, but the play was completed at a shareholders’ meeting at the facility. When it looked like the theft would be successful, the ringleader of the thieves, a slickly-dressed con man, told the assembled crowd that they did not need Dennis anymore. When he said that, a cheer went up from the crowd. As I looked out at the cheering throng (hundreds of people where there), I saw people who had previously sucked up to Dennis leading the cheer. I was my first salient moment of awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

Of course, those who cheered inherited the wind. My boss tried to recruit me to go work for the thieves. I was still friendly with my boss, but the theft was nakedly evident to those with eyes to see. My ideals were not going to allow for that, although I still had plenty of naïveté to shed. My spiritual training came in very handy; I was quickly able to spot a great soul in Dennis. Few others could see it, however. His optimistic and joyous attitude in the midst of all the death blows being rained down was incredible to witness. I was sold on Dennis, not any technology.

A few days before Dennis’s company was stolen, we rented a truck and moved as much of Mr. Inventor’s equipment and prototypes as we could to Mr. Engineer’s barn in Ellensburg.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=414784&viewfull=1#post414784

The thieves eventually stole what we could not move from the facility that day. That summer, as we waited for Dennis to make something happen after he was run out of the state, I became Mr. Inventor’s friend. He told me sobering stories of the inventors’ clubs that he had been in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#pursuit

I later found out that when Mr. Inventor worked for General Motors, unbeknownst to himself at the time, his job was stealing inventions on behalf of GM:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor

Mr. Inventor also said that in the inventors’ clubs, the inventors never supported each other, but every inventor tried to commandeer the organization to support his invention. When I heard that, it certainly conflicted with the inventor-hero archetype that Mr. Mentor instilled in me, but I filed that piece of information away and later discovered how true Mr. Inventor’s words were. Mr. Mentor also told me about a 70-MPG truck that GM accidentally allowed to get on the showroom floor and sold to an unsuspecting customer.

When I met Dennis, he had a bodyguard because of all the death threats that he received,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=253214&viewfull=1#post253214

and the bodyguard was hip to the disruptive energy technology scene, and had a friend who got 200 MPG with his carburetor. It is kind of “funny” that high MPG cars are now becoming ubiquitous around the world, but still not allowed in the USA:

http://video.staged.com/localshops/vw_passat_785_mpg_in_the_uk

That summer, as the handful of “loyalists” who stuck with Dennis waited for him to make something happen, I had more moments of awakening, and watching several groups fight over the carcass of Dennis’s company was one of them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient2

In the end, only two “loyalists” bowed out with honor, and I was the only one left, out of the hundreds of employees that Dennis had just the previous winter. Dennis tried talking me out of chasing him across the country, but I would not be denied my dream. Leaving Seattle to chase Dennis out to Boston was one of the hardest things I ever did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

I did not even suspect it at the time, but in Seattle I walked into the final days of what still stands as the greatest attempt yet made to bring alternative energy to the American marketplace.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

I knew none of the history of Dennis’s efforts when I moved to Boston, but I lived with Dennis and his family for the next year, and I began to learn from the master. When I got there, I watched days’ worth of videotapes that Dennis recently made, telling his story to a blueblood who was going to help resurrect the business. I have never seen a blueblood or rich “benefactor” really help. They all talk big but never deliver. I was nearly always the most eager learner in all of my classes, all the way through my college diploma, and the more challenging the class, the more I loved it. For a learning junkie who had dreams of changing the energy industry, there literally was not a better place on Earth to learn about it than working and living with Dennis.

Dennis has this image as a Bible-banging, fast-talking, con man and folk hero. While the image is part of who he is, far more important, to me, was Dennis’s incredible ability to build businesses from nothing, and here I need to discuss the social organization around building and deploying disruptive energy technologies. That has to be one of the most difficult feats on Earth, but people without any business or technical background just kind of assume that somehow through the magic of capitalism and gizmos that superior technologies kind of happen and then prevail in the marketplace, because everybody wants the better mousetrap. It does not work that way.

Dennis was getting baptized in the shark tank of the business world in New Jersey before he began to pursue alternative energy. Like me, Dennis first began to think about alternative energy because of the USA’s first energy crisis in 1973-1974; it ruined his first business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#builders

While I was given all sorts of specialized education while growing up, as a prodigy in-training, Dennis’s background was a little bit different. He was raised in a migrant farmworker family who kicked him out of their home when he was thirteen because they could not afford to feed him anymore:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

He ended up in Vietnam about ten years later, and was involved in the bloody kind of combat that most never recover from, and he was a parachuting medic. His life’s story is truly hard to believe, and he received his mystical awakening in far more dramatic fashion than mine; that voice in his head started talking to him as the barrel of his gun was in his mouth and he was about to pull the trigger:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice

Even though he was at the top of his college classes while studying social psychology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#skinner

and had dreams of becoming a surgeon, he really had almost no scientific or business training when he began his odyssey in the business world. There are downsides to approach the problem from that background, but there were also great benefits. Dennis is a genius on par with Mr. Mentor:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

but his genius was focused more on understanding of the human condition, how our society worked, and how to navigate it to bring disruptive technologies to market. He became a seat-of-the-pants generalist, and that generalist understanding was crucial to bringing disruptive technologies to market. I had business and scientific training, and I was constantly amazed at how Dennis looked at situations, how he built companies from nothing and quickly gained unreal growth trajectories.

While he had some early experience with energy-saving equipment, and invented the world’s first shared savings program to sell energy-saving equipment, and was in the home insulation business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#conserve

he got kind of ”lucky” when he stumbled into the heat pump that eventually took him to the Big Time. “Stumble” may not be the best verb to use, because Dennis was in a wheelchair when he “stumbled” into it recovering from paralysis that the federal government negligently inflicted on him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#va

but it saved him from mobsters breaking his legs or worse, so the paralysis may have been a blessing in disguise, although Dennis might not see it that way. On the technology front, Dennis got kind of “lucky” in that the heat pump only had one exotic component, the panel:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco1

Because all the other components were standard refrigeration components (although some had to be kind of jerry-rigged to work, like the condensers, because typical refrigeration systems are designed to remove heat, not acquire it), the R&D curve was far shorter than for other similar technologies. And here is where Dennis’s comprehensive perspective, as raw as it was, came into play. The original owners of that heat pump company were producing a product that was a tinkerer’s delight. Before Dennis got involved in the industry, fully half of the buyers of that heat pump installed it themselves.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#technical

and the sales talk was all technical. It was a tinkerer’s dream, but wholly impractical for marketing them to the public. That heat pump company had been in business for several years at that time. With its tinkerer installation, the performance of the installed base was wildly variable. As Dennis did when he got into the insulation business, he industrialized a field that was in the craftsman stage, and this is where all those FE tinkerers out there could start to learn something about how the world really works.

I don’t want to get into Karl Marx or even Bucky Fuller too much in this post, but the study of the human journey is not only dominated by the human ability to wrench ever-increasing amounts of energy from the environment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

but energy efficiency also continued to improve and, perhaps most importantly, the social organization needed for the increasingly technical sophistication of the energy production was one of the keys. It was the energy surplus of domesticating plants and animals that afforded the opportunity to build villages, then towns, then cities. Before there was a stable and secure energy supply, civilization could not exist, and there was no such thing as elites. The transition from hunter-gatherer to sedentary agriculture has been called the transition from egalitarianism to kleptocracy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#economics

The elites were always primarily greedy and power-hungry, and they erected religions to themselves, becoming divine representatives of the universe’s creators, and their primary claim to fame was controlling the weather to ensure bountiful harvests. Of course, it was a huge ruse, and all of their water mountains (the Mayans) and other engineering marvels were still vulnerable to climate variability, and when the droughts inevitably came, and the two shows a night of the passion play failed to wow the hungry vassals, then the royalty lost their legitimacy as their civilizations collapsed.

That dynamic is common to every early civilization studied so far. But while it lasted, the elites were able to encourage and coerce a new form of social organization, the kind needed for the feats of monumental architecture, generally of stone, that dominated all of those early civilizations. Gold and silver were also divine metals in all of those civilizations, and often became spectacular grave goods for the elites, along with murdered slaves and other accoutrements. Specialization of labor made its appearance, with quasi-industrial production, where the activities of thousands of people were focused on building pyramids, and perhaps not as slaves, but as brainwashed subjects who truly believed that the elites had divine sanction and that the monumental architecture would guarantee the favor of the gods and bountiful harvests.

When the civilizations collapsed as they ran out of energy, the survivors reverted to simpler social organization, and the social organization became that of craftsmen, not industrial specialists. Before Rome burned through its energy supplies on a grand scale (see Homer-Dixon’s The Upside of Down, for instance), it had industrial production, with pottery factories and the like, and building the Roman Coliseum, where people were forced to murder each other for the masses’ entertainment, was one of Rome’s great technical feats. But when Rome collapsed, industrial social organization disappeared in Europe for a thousand years.

As the technical prowess and social organization appeared to take advantage of the energy provided by coal, first in England, after they had completely deforested their island, and drove all competing predators to extinction (wolves and bears, particularly), the social construct that came to be known as capitalism made its appearance, after early proto-capitalist organization began on the European mainland, as Europe learned to sail the seas and conquer the world. Europe’s sailing ships were the most sophisticated piece of energy technology on the planet at the time, capable of generating several hundred horsepower under full sail.

Taking raw materials from the ground, refining them, transporting them, making them into the goods of the industrial era, and integrating them with the markets and end users, is not only energy-intensive in unprecedented ways, but also in terms of social organization. Science, technology, and social organization all transformed in radical ways as the energy of coal began to be exploited. Also, Europe had the good fortune of “discovering” an entire hemisphere that was still largely in the Stone Age, so they could not deforest the land like the Old World did, and they did not have draft animals to pull ploughs, so they did not wreck the soils, and there was a short-lived golden age of economic plunder provided by those relatively pristine New World environments that gave Europe an energy boost and led to the development of history’s richest and most powerful nation, where I live today.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english

Dennis found himself in that historical moment when the USA began to run out of energy, and his ability to create organizations that could develop, build and market disruptive energy technologies is the best that I ever saw or heard of. Scientists and tinkerers only see a small part of the picture. Dennis not only was instrumental in improving that heat pump technology, to make it more reliable and marketable, but he also developed ingenious marketing programs:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

For all of his abilities to build companies from nothing and industrialize processes that were stuck at the craftsman stage, his marketing programs were what made him such a threat to the energy markets. The technology was really a small piece of the puzzle. Dennis created an integrated, comprehensive program, from marketing to factory to installation, so that he could carpet the world with his heat pumps. And almost nobody could understand. His associates often got dim glimpses of the potential, but they nearly invariably tried to steal it. Dennis made it look easy, which was also part of his act, and his greed-blinded, idiotic associates repeatedly killed the golden goose, and Dennis had to rebuild it from scratch. Even the mob came to the table, more than once:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#mafia2

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#lamco3

As Dennis repeatedly had his companies stolen and had to rebuild them, fate took him to Seattle, where he made the biggest run at bringing alternative energy to the American marketplace that there ever was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

and almost nobody from the public understood. With my tutelage under Mr. Mentor’s wing, I became a student of genius, and even at my young age at the time (I met Dennis when I was 27), learning at Dennis’s feet was like taking a relativity class from Einstein. And to this day, Dennis’s “allies” in the FE field can only lie about him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

and the countless newbies and pretenders that I constantly see in the field are oblivious to it all, parroting the libel and thinking that the tinkerer path to FE holds some promise. It ain’t gonna happen that way.

One of the things that Brian O constantly tried to sober up would-be FE heroes to was what it takes to take a proof-of-concept device or prototype to industrial production status. In his last years, Brian estimated that it would take $200 million to do it. Money only buys somebody’s effort. Money is only a means of social organization, and in a world of scarcity, the fear, greed, delusions and plain severe economic myopia around money in the masses can be hard to believe, when you begin to see the big picture. What that $200 million price tag really means is a sophisticated technical effort to turn a prototype into a reliable piece of technology that can be mass marketed. That never happens in garages with tinkerers, but in industrial laboratory and factory settings. And here is where Godzilla comes into the picture, sort of. Dennis is about the only person who ever survived the shark tank of capitalism long enough to build a factory for making disruptive energy technology for the market.

The Global Controllers (AKA, the Big Boys, Godzilla) are real, but they rarely need to lift a finger to derail disruptive energy technology efforts. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre effect rears its head almost immediately, where greed infects everybody and it collapses in a self-inflicted bloodbath before it gets very far along. For the few efforts that make it past the early hurdles, the local energy interests then get involved in protecting their turf. Dennis went through several rounds of all that mayhem, rebuilding his efforts from scratch, time after time, before he got to the level where the electric companies did us in in Seattle.

While the BPA Hit Man was likely a Godzilla asset, and when he killed one of Dennis’s employees it radicalized Dennis in his energy pursuits:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

what happened in Seattle I’ll wager was mostly just the local energy gangsters protecting their turf. A “funny” thing about Dennis’s adventures was that he came to understand that the mafia acts with more integrity than the energy companies do. The mafia stopped trying to kill Dennis after he survived one of their assassination attempts in heroic style:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#mafia2

When Godzilla finally joined the party, he was vastly more sophisticated than the crude gangster tactics used in Seattle and in Dennis’s earlier adventures. Our first undeniable encounter with Godzilla was the friendly buyout offer in Boston, for $10 million:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

Billionaires also began sniffing around, and in Ventura, as we were beginning to fly high, Godzilla added a couple of zeroes to the original offer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and when Dennis rejected it, he found himself in jail with a million dollar bail a few weeks later. Dennis thinks that jail was Godzilla’s “counteroffer,” but Ventura County has such legendary corruption that we will never know how much was Godzilla, how much was the local electric company (they were involved) and how much was just the institutionalized evil of Ventura County.

All along the way, during those days, I became increasingly immersed in White Science and fringe science, and a little Black Science also began to rear its head. The stories that I heard from Mr. Inventor and others began to pale beside the tales of woe that I began hearing in Ventura. The Big Boys play rough when they need to:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#platinum

I began hearing stories of entire families being murdered, with their houses set afire and bulldozed. And it is one thing to hear the stories, and it is another level of reality entirely when you begin to see and live though such stories. What happened in Ventura became legendary in the FE field, and I was one of the central players, and arguably the central player, for what happened in Ventura, I am sorry to say. That is an “honor” that I could have lived without. :(

I learned sanity-threatening lessons in those days, which I have written about in some detail on my site and on this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&highlight=consolidate#post400492

But my point is that the real world of technology development and deployment, especially disruptive technology, and particularly disruptive energy technology, is one that few people on Earth have ever seen. I have, and it is nothing like in the movies. :)

As I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, radicalized, I realized that almost nothing that I was taught about how the real world worked was true. I began diving into the science and technology of what we were attempting when Dennis was in jail, so that I could brief any expert witnesses that my legal fund could obtain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

but in 1990, when I moved away to Ohio, to put my wife though graduate school, is when I really began to hit the books, and I began to encounter more Black Science and fringe science and technology. My wife saw the entire arc in Ventura – otherwise, she would have likely thought that I was crazy. She saw Mr. Deputy making faces at me as I was on the witness stand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

and knows what I went through. I am sure that I was guided to her, as no woman could have begun to understand me without at least glimpsing what I lived through. I have been happily married for more than twenty years, and it has helped ground me, so I could survive my journey and stay sane.

I have to run off to work now. The next posts will be about fringe science and Black Science. The stuff is real, but those who find out about it are either insiders or have risked their lives to get to where the Black Science world makes itself known. You usually don’t find Black Science – it finds you.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st June 2012, 04:13
Hi:

Over the next few days, I will likely be relatively quiet. These science posts will not be finished before next week.

I moved to Ohio more than four years after meeting Dennis, and my world was thoroughly shattered. When I moved to Ohio, the studies really began that led to my work today. I had access to a university library, and I began my researches. I obtained thermodynamics textbooks and muddled through them,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#industrial

while simultaneously studying Mr. Mentor’s and Victor Fischer’s patents:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#fischer

They had similar features. That two hydraulic heat engines came to Dennis a few months apart, with both inventors thinking that they could do FE, was one of the many bizarre synchronicities that attended our efforts. Could they do FE? Beats me. One was considered the world’s best engine for powering an automobile, and that was strictly White Science, with a huge federal study saying so. Being the world’s best automobile engine and making FE are horses of very different colors, with the second one “impossible” according to the “laws” of thermodynamics. Neither Fischer nor Mr. Mentor were thinking in terms of FE when they invented their engines. It was only when Dennis thought of marrying a heat engine to his heat pump that they began thinking that way. Many years later, I saw Eugene Mallove say that that route to FE could be viable:

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obituaries/2004/EugeneMallove/LastMessage040513/

Brian O introduced me to Eugene, we had some exchanges, and we were planning to discuss it further (I sent him patents, etc.), but then he was murdered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

So, while I was immersing myself in the science behind what we had attempted before we were wiped out, I also realized that the issues were far broader than technological. I began digesting the alternative media:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

and soon encountered Ralph McGehee:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

Noam Chomsky, Ed Herman, Howard Zinn, and friends:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky

Even though it really took me a few years to understand the dimensions of their arguments, especially Chomsky’s, in my radicalized state, I did not get any cognitive dissonance from it; I ate it up. But, it could also be extremely draining material, continually reading about what my imperial state was up to, and how much blood was on America’s collective hands, and the dark underbelly of our society.

I told myself that I was specializing in the political-economic aspects of the energy situation, but I was really developing a comprehensive perspective. I suppose that I had always been doing that, going back to reading encyclopedias for fun as a child, but with my radicalized perspective after my Dennis days, my studies leapt up by an order of magnitude. I began studying politics, economics, the media, history, White Science, fringe science, going deeper into my spiritual studies, and one of the first things that I stumbled into during those early days was Rife and Naessens:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

They were among my early fringe science mind-bogglers. Here were microscopes that attained “impossible” resolutions. That those microscopes attained “impossible” resolutions was incredible enough, but the findings of those microscopes, viewing life processes at resolutions that no other microscopes could, should have had the entire scientific community camped on their front steps to see more. Well, for a while, back in the 1930s, that was the case with Rife, as his lab became a scientific mecca. Then Morris Fishbein and the AMA became involved, and Rife was wiped out. Fishbein was the classic quack:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein

who never practiced medicine a day in his life, but he was the face of “medicine” in the USA for a generation. I had already been on the receiving end of medical establishment gangsterism already:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

so the revelations were not that extraordinary. What amazed me was how effortlessly the scientists in the medical establishment were herded into the dominant paradigm. Just look through the lens of the scopes! How hard can that be? I had strange encounters with medical establishment people in those days, and their willful blindness was incredible to witness at first, but I was just beginning to understand how deeply in denial people were, on many fronts, not just White Science. There are surviving micrographs that prove that Rife’s scopes obtained their “impossible” resolutions.

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm

Naessens’s lab was open to visiting scientists for many years, and Gaston made retrofit apparatus so that normal microscopes could be fitted to see some of the forms that his somatoscope could see. Newton’s optical theories are due for a radical overhaul if not outright dismissal into the dustbin of history. But surf the Internet today on those men and their microscopes, and not only are they called “quacks” by the medical establishment mouthpieces, but they rarely even admit during their diatribes that those men even possessed their microscopes. It is tempting to call such hacks the biggest idiots that ever lived, but most of them are just doing their jobs, working for the forces of darkness.

There are even scopes with more amazing resolutions:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=98280&viewfull=1#post98280

that I encountered in those early days of exploring fringe science. I met Brian O at the same time, and he was just getting his feet wet in the FE milieu, spending time with Tom Bearden and Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

At around the same time that I was becoming familiar with Rife, Naessens and the other fringe science players, I remembered what my father told me long ago about Carl Sagan and the “skeptics,” and I obtained a bunch of back issues of The Skeptical Inquirer and began to study organized skepticism. This is where very interesting psychological issues raise their heads. I began seeing it many years earlier, but it really went front-and-center when I encountered organized skepticism. I already had a great deal of undeniable proof that the materialistic presumptions of White Science were false. Many years before, I originally thought that it was just an unfortunate assumption that science would eventually discard, once horse sense prevailed, after studying the “skeptics” for just a little while, it became clear that their materialism was a fanatical religious conviction, not merely an invalid assumption. With Carl Sagan, I began seeing instances where he was practicing his “skeptical” craft dishonestly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

The primary lesson of my journey with Dennis was that personal integrity was the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

which I resisted the whole way until I had it beaten into my head in no uncertain terms. As I began my researches, I kept seeing that dynamic being played out repeatedly over the course of history:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#_edn29

So, Carl was in good company. Brian O got real hot with how Carl did not play fair on the Face on Mars issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#_edn20

My researches soon became a kind of quest to find the honest person. I usually came up empty.

Being able to demonstrate “impossible” resolutions to anybody who wanted to see for themselves is mighty impressive. But most fringe science is not that way. It is usually far more equivocal, and it is often the playing field of the mistaken, the deluded, the incompetent, and charlatans, and I met my fair share of all of them in my fringe science experiences. One of the earliest was the moon landings issue. Because I was a space brat, moving to Houston in 1966 so my father could work in Mission Control, I was always a fan of space exploration. But after my days with Dennis, everything I thought that I “knew” was up for reconsideration, and during those early years I obtained William Brian’s book on alleged suppressed findings from the Apollo program. His entire thesis rested heavily on an alleged discrepancy regarding the telemetry of the Apollo craft and the moon’s gravitational field. He argued that the lunar gravity was far higher than the one-sixth of Earth’s that we are all taught, which meant that conventional rocketry was not used to land on the moon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#neutral

Brian presented numerous lines of other evidence to bolster his case, but when I finally began to dig into the science behind his claims, it did not withstand scrutiny. His “neutral point discrepancy” evaporated upon further inspection, and it made his entire case shaky, and I let him know it. But Brian was a bastion of conservative scientific reasoning compared to the growing chorus of people who began to argue that the Apollo moon landings were all faked. I reviewed each treatise as it came out over the years, and spent a few months going deep into all the evidence, and none of it really survived heavy scrutiny. And then I co-discovered previously overlooked evidence that removed my residual doubt:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#paydirt

The moon landings happened as advertised, as far as the astronauts landing on the moon went.

But the UFO matter was something entirely different. The Seth that I encountered in LA once told his audience where to go in the desert, and when, to see a UFO fly by. A bunch of them did, and they were not disappointed. I since have received my own UFO shows:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

When Steve Greer held those secret Congressional hearings in 1997, and then a bunch of the prominent players all got strange forms of cancer a few months later, people like me were not surprised:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

A number of years before those hearings, Brian O almost lost his life immediately after refusing an “offer” from the USA’s military to work on a UFO project:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

At the same time that the Disclosure Project people were making waves, I was back with Dennis, after several years of his trying to get me back in the saddle with him. He was involved with Yull Brown at the time. The man who wrote the book on Naessens was planning to write a bio on Yull before he died:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=452392&viewfull=1#post452392

Brown’s Gas is another Real McCoy in the fringe science scene, and could even be called White Science, as the Chinese government built a city for Yull, staffed with thousands of scientists. But Yull wanted to live in the USA, and Dennis and I spoke at DOE hearings to try to get the federal government to use Brown’s Gas to solve the nuclear waste problem. The DOE itself told us that “managing” nuclear waste was a racket:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

It was also in those days that I ended up directly interacting with an aspiring “skeptic,” who has garnered fame from dishonestly attacking Dennis ever since. His dishonesty is evident to anybody with a functioning brain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

but he is a “skeptical” darling, regularly appearing on national TV, which removed any doubt that I had about the agenda of the “skeptics.” But being attacked by dishonest “skeptics” does not mean that the targets of their attacks had anything legit, either.

Several years ago, I discovered that my leading influence on matters of holistic health was a charlatan, so I exposed him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/bragg.htm

I won’t be getting any Christmas cards from his “daughter” anytime soon.

The entire fringe science field can be bewildering, and I wrote an essay once to address the problems that lay people face when exploring it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

But none of that is Black Science. As I stated in my Camelot interview, during my days with Dennis, we got contacted periodically by the White Hats:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#white

and I can’t write publicly about all of our encounters with them, but let me say that they are real, although I am not sure how white their hats really are. The black hats also approached us, with two offers to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

before they began to play rough. After two stints behind bars that he nearly did not survive, when Dennis began to fly high again and convinced me to come back with him, the Black Hats were undoubtedly behind a huge sting operation that was trying to nab us:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

Godzilla is very real, and so are the mind-boggling technologies in his Golden Hoard, which some “White Hats” showed to one of my pals once:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

The stuff that you hear Greer and the Disclosure Project witnesses talk about is real, on the advanced technology front. The science behind those technologies makes the physics texts of White Science look like cave drawings.

I am keenly aware of the limitations of White Science, but I just don’t throw it all away, either. For the points that I am going to be making in my upcoming essay, White Science can do most of the job. Newtonian physics was good enough to send men to the moon; no relativistic calculations were needed.

I have to go play husband right now, and there won’t be any posts for a few days, most likely, but when I resume, I am going to go pretty deep on some of the White Science and fringe science controversies and theories that I have been on the fringes of over the years. Some is about alternative cancer treatments, some are challenges to mainstream physics and Earth’s recent and long-term past, and related topics. My intent is to show what minefields the seeker needs to navigate if they want to get very far. Most of the fringe science stuff is not valid, but some is. The really good stuff, however, if it can be disruptive, is quickly removed from circulation by Godzilla and his minions, and I suspect that much if not most of the fringe science and technology that we see out there is the chaff that is left over after Godzilla has seized the good stuff. He has vastly more resources than the Average Joe does, and he is vigilant.

I am signing off for now.

Best,

Wade

P.S. One more pic of Lyman Basin. That is Lyman glacier in the background, that we were able to walk up and pet. It is disappearing fast, in these days of global warming:

http://www.nichols.edu/departments/glacier/lyman.htm

Melinda
3rd June 2012, 03:12
While Wade is preparing his next science post I just wanted to offer up this short little video. I was thinking about this thread (and the creative ones related to it) and was reminded of the late Terrence McKenna, a soft-spoken explorer of the inner and outer worlds. His gentle warmth and humour here, and his articulate nature, makes it an uplifting 3 and a half minutes: http://youtu.be/iYB0VW5x8fI

Amongst various things he says in the video that are relevant to the FE discussion, he says:
"...What civilisation is is six billion people trying to make themselves happy by standing on each others' shoulders and kicking each other's teeth in. It's not a pleasant situation. And yet you can stand back and look at this planet and see that we have the money, the power, the medical understanding, the scientific know-how, the love and the community to produce a kind of human paradise... ...Man was not put on this planet to toil in the mud."

At the very end he mentions the value of making art. He was a holistic thinker who valued the pursuit of scientific understanding, so I'm offering up the video in honour of inspiring and holistic thinking. I believe they're the words of a man who seemed filled and motivated by a love of planet earth and the potential of our race; when he talks about the value of making art, that's something that ties in with our general power of creativity, because making art can help us think and examine the world creatively - which I think is very relevant when I consider what non-mainstream science may have at its disposal and all the wonderful uses we could imagine for the technology. I can really see it in Ilie's thread about what becomes obsolete with FE, and TelosianEmbrace's Future Earth thread. Some of the world's most valuable scientists have invented in ground-breaking ways because their flow of thinking functioned creatively. In a way - they thought like artists, open to being inspired by mysterious or mystical sources.

I hope the weekend is a good one for all of you. I'm off to bed now to dream some free energy dreams.

Wade Frazier
4th June 2012, 04:54
Hi:

I’m back, and back to science. I am going to make one of my primary points that you have all seen before, but I am going to make it in a different way, and I am going to make it in a way that does not pick on White Science, but also shows that it is not immune to the dynamic.

Again, after that voice first spoke to me, I changed my studies from science to business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

Accounting in particular appealed to me. The earliest writings discovered in all early civilizations were accounting documents, usually tallying up royalty’s tribute. So it is, in a world of scarcity, and accounting primarily performed for elite benefit continues to the present day. Accounting is ideally a science of measuring economic activity. The accounting taught in the USA is generally of the capitalist variety. There is non-profit and governmental accounting, but the sexy and lucrative accounting is capitalist accounting.

Accounting is a lot like math, and in fact is math in its more complex areas. So, a scientist-in-training found an easy transition to accounting. Math is the language of science, and accounting is the language of capitalism. I went from being the science prodigy to the accounting prodigy in short order. After tearing up the curriculum at my junior college (my professor at the college ended up becoming my partner with Dennis http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr ), I went off to the university, chasing my girlfriend who dumped me the week after we moved:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=496281&viewfull=1#post496281

And what may have been the very day that she dumped me, I attended my first orientation at my business school. The head of the accounting department gave a speech to us new students. I clearly recall the speech, but I kind of did not know what the point of it was, but years later, I understood. His speech was about how there were moves being made to regulate the accounting profession, but it could regulate itself, and did not need to government getting involved. The basic message was that the accounting profession could police itself, and would not need some outside agency to do the policing for them. I really did not know what he was talking about. I was just eating up accounting and capitalism, in my idealism.

During my first quarter at the university, I took the hardest class that any accounting student ever takes, called Intermediate Accounting. That department head taught the class that I took. Intermediate Accounting was the “washout” class in the accounting curriculum. Students who fancied an accounting career and could not cut Intermediate Accounting would not become accountants. That department head discouraged students from becoming accountants, if he thought they could not cut it. The first day of class, we had to take a national accounting exam, to see how much we learned in our first year of the accounting curriculum. I got the highest score at the university that quarter, and aced Intermediate Accounting. I thought that it was harder than the calculus classes that I had when I was a science major. I loved hard classes like that.

I eventually became the department head’s paper grader and tutor (for the non-accounting students who had to take introductory accounting). He was also my professor for the last accounting class, before I graduated. In that class, we had to take a second national accounting exam, to see how much we learned in our junior and senior years. I got the highest score in the history of the university, and the department head encouraged me to try to get one of the highest scores in the nation, and he promised to attend the ceremony if I did. I did not have the heart to tell him that I burned out on academia in my last year of college and did not want to study for the exam, which was the only way that I could compete for highest-in-the-nation honors. I walked into the exam without studying at all, and passed it, just barely making it over the standard. People don’t ask you what your score was when they look at your CPA certificate.

A few years later, when I was getting my trial-by-fire in the real world:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=406928&viewfull=1#post406928

I became so disenchanted with my profession that when I finally earned my CPA certificate (Californian accountants had to apprentice at a CPA firm for two years to earn their CPA after passing the exam) that I have never taken the certificate out of the tube that they mailed it to me in. It still sits in its tube in my office at home, unopened, more than twenty-five years after I earned it.

I began to slowly figure it out, and I will relate one more story before I come to the point of this post. In that final accounting class, my professor told a joke, and like his speech given when I arrived at the university, I really did not understand until several years later. The joke goes like this….

There was a job opening for an accountant, and the company’s president interviewed candidates. His interview process was a simple one that consisted of one question: “What does two-plus-two equal?” The first candidate was asked the question and replied, “four.” He was thanked for his answer, the interview ended, and he was sent on his way. The second candidate was asked the same question and replied, “What do you want two-plus-two to equal?” He got the job.

As the professor told the punchline, I remember being puzzled, but laughed with the rest to be polite. As I got into the real world, my cognitive dissonance soon reached high levels, and my “Easter Bunny” question that everybody laughed at:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

showed how I was struggling with the reality I was seeing and squaring it with my academic studies. I regularly went back to the university and visited my old professor and department chair. I loved the old guy, and we kept in touch for quite a while. As I write this, I am tempted to contact him. He still remembers me, thirty years later, but I wonder what kind of encounter that would be. I think I’ll let it go for now.

It was not until I was on the world’s biggest Savings and Loan audit, and my partner made his frank admission:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#independence

that the clouds began to part for me, and as 1988 ended and my life was shattered, the week after George Bush the First was safely elected, the S&L Scandal was finally revealed to the American public:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bush

A lot began to become very clear to me. That joke about two-plus-two became clear a few years earlier, but the charming naïveté of my department chair’s speech at my first day at the university became very clear in the wake of the S&L Scandal.

Because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, there is no way that a greed-based economic system can be measured by some kind of honor system, where it regulates itself. But is still does, today, incredibly. If I ever looked up my old department chair, I would be tempted to ask him about his speech from the 1970s and if he really took his rhetoric seriously. He probably did, and the conceit is this: “We are the good guys. We are highly-trained experts, and you can trust us.” The “We are the good guys” conceit is the most damaging one that I have seen, and it plays out across all disciplines that I have studied. Naïve, overgrown Boy Scouts like me ate it up. It is always a lie. The few that I have met like me all had their brutal moments of awakening, as they awoke to the Big Lies they were fed. Ralph McGehee’s awakening moment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#saigon

and Dennis’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice

were far more dramatic than mine. I had a series of salient moments that punctuated my journey of awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#why

but we eventually came to the same general vicinity of understanding. There is no such thing as a democracy, a free press, a free market, or any of those other fantasies. They are sold to the masses, however. Science has the “scientific method” as its ideal. That ideal has also never been achieved. Also, one of the most pernicious myths about science is that it has some inside track on the truth, and that is all that scientists are interested in: verifiable truth about how the universe works.

I have been digesting a great deal of White Science over the years, and I periodically read some scientist write that scientists really are primarily concerned with a pursuit of the truth. However, the more honest White Science writers tell us differently. One of my favorite science writers is Nick Lane, and in his Oxygen, he wrote,

“…scientific inquiry…is very rarely the kind of dispassionate induction process that philosophers like to call the ‘scientific method.’ Most scientists instead cling to their favorite stories, or hypotheses, until they are either proved, or discredited to the point that even an obstinate old professor must concede their fallacy.”

The history of medicine is littered with that kind of behavior. All of the key figures that are taught to medical school students had to fight with their peers over their breakthroughs, and I give several examples in my medical racket essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vesalius

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#harvey

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pare

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#semmelweis

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#auenbrugger

and also show where prevailing on the scientific scene certainly did not mean that the triumph was getting science closer to the truth, such as Pasteur’s triumph over Béchamp:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

Even in the halls of White Science today, the story of Pasteur’s triumph on the spontaneous generation issue that is taught to microbiology students is easily shown to be an expedient fairy tale:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#farley

Frank scientific histories clearly tell of the all-too-human nature of scientists and the forces that corrupt them. Any scientist-in-training with promise is dangled the idea of winning a Nobel Prize one day (and unscrupulous professors are looking out for such students so they can take credit for their work), or to have some phenomenon named after him, which is a sort of immortality. Those are counterproductive incentives, if the quest is the truth. Science's quest for truth is close to what Max Planck once observed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#real

On the political scene, I show clearly how George Washington’s “honest” image is a fabrication, genocidally so:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

and something as “solid” as scientific history is subject to the same distortions in the name of economic empires.

The lies about George Washington and his pals help establish and maintain imperial conceits, and the USA’s imperial conceits are breathtaking, and it is hard to find a fellow American who is not influenced by them, usually deeply. Almost no Americans will really take on the mythmaking that goes on every day in the USA. That conceit lays the groundwork for the continuing genocides that the USA inflicts on the world’s peoples. This is common to all imperial societies, not to pick on the USA too much. Even a “chaste” nation like Australia has an awesome amount of blood on its hands:

http://sites.google.com/site/iraqiholocaustiraqigenocide/iraq-holocaust-iraq-genocide

and you won’t find that tally anywhere in the Australian media, or American, or British. British “left” intellectuals suffer from the same imperial conceits, drilled into their heads from a young age, and most can never overcome it:

http://www.zcommunications.org/when-it-comes-to-genocide-guardian-uks-george-monbiot-has-pulled-a-hitchens-by-michael-mcgehee

White Science suffers from a similar malaise. Scientific truth is far too important to leave to the scientists, but that is also part of the conundrum, and I will begin to explore it in the next post, which will eventually take me to the frontiers of Black Science.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Ixopoborn
4th June 2012, 10:26
Dear Wade - thanks so much for your continuing devotion to this thread. I have delved into it now on about 6 occasions. On each successive occasion, I have felt more drawn, more compelled to enter and enjoy what is without doubt a vast and beautiful Alladin's cave representation of you and your mind.

There is no doubt left in my mind that this thread is fully blown jewel in this forum's crown!

To Avalonian's who stumble upon this thread like I did some months back, my recommendation is that you decide to pay little visits now and again. Certainly it took me a few dabbles before I became comfortable with the vastness of Wade's experience which he lays out so calmly here.

Thanks again Wade.

Wade Frazier
4th June 2012, 16:50
Hi Ixopoborn:

Thanks for the encouragement. This thread is a warm-up for what I plan to do, and I feel a bit of pressure to deliver, because this is my life’s work and a chance to make a dent in the global situation. The wheels are falling off of industrialized civilization, for those with eyes to see. I don’t want to live through a meltdown, not when there is no good reason for it other than humanity’s semi-sentient ways. We will see how it goes.

I can tell that these science posts are going to last a while, partly because my work hurricane is already cranking back up, after a brief lull. There will likely be more, shorter posts, as my time is going to be limited.

White Science has many limitations, and significant ones rest on its assumptions, and some are:

1. We are objective;

2. Consciousness is a byproduct of chemistry;

3. We have access to all of the available relevant data.

There are many other assumptions that White Science relies upon, which greatly limits what it is capable of, but the above ones will be the subject of today’s post. Kind of like the fantasy that democracies, a free press, and free markets exist, White Science rests on assumptions that are easily shown to be shaky.

The first two assumptions are related, as they assume that physical reality exists independent of us, and is not affected by our consciousness, or any consciousness. The White Science view is that the human mind is the height of consciousness found in the universe so far, and is a byproduct of chemistry. The universe inexplicably came into existence by an unimaginable Big Bang, and will peter out due to entropy some billions of years into the future. Some enlightened scientists will admit that the story as told by science today does not account for consciousness and probably can’t, but they are few and far between:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#materialist

About 99% of all White Scientists today have a world view that can be described as atheistic. I think it may be more appropriate to call it materialist. The materialist framework chalks up consciousness to an “emergent” and transient property of biochemical reactions. The slippery slope of the materialist framework is to regard all consciousness as a biochemical reaction, and raise human consciousness above all others, and thereby justify the treatment of “lesser” life forms in any way that benefits that flower of evolution, humans. That mentality has led to the evils of factory farming, the deaths of a hundred million animals per year in the USA for experiments, and so on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#factory

To be fair, there is some enlightenment found in evolutionary circles, where humans are seen as “just another animal,” which can tend to deflate our anthropocentric conceits. Ethics toward animal treatment have come some ways in the West, but have an immense way to go. The “bizarre” part for me is that one week in a Silva or similar class can permanently explode the materialist framework of White Science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

Everybody whom I respect in the FE field is, to one extent or another, mystically-oriented. Brian O had his mystical awakening performing the same exercise that I did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote

and he came to it later than others. The rest of us had our awakenings in our late teens or early twenties. Once you awaken, there is no going back to dead, materialistic science. It is hard to emphasize just how radically people’s views of the cosmos change when they get their mystical awakening. A mystical worldview, however, bears no resemblance to organized religion. I see the battle between the materialists and religionists as a war between the Young Souls and the Baby Souls. Both have yet to grow up, and that is OK, but their stunted perspectives will not rule the roost for much longer.

The greatest physicists were, to one degree or another, mystical in their outlook:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

and would look askance at the efforts of organized skepticism. The “skeptics” are really the foot soldiers of materialism and White Science, and my encounters with them showed me how dishonest they were:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

That last limiting assumption has several levels to it. Those “impossible” microscopes of Rife and Naessens:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm

are examples of Fringe Science, standing in the light of day, that overturns some of the most hallowed White Science. I have seen Newton’s Opticks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opticks

sitting on a rocket scientist’s shelf. But modern optical theory gets blown out of the water by those “impossible” microscopes. That White Science refuses to look through the lens of those scopes is why Christopher Bird called Naessens the “Galileo of the microscope.” In significant ways, not much has changed in the last four hundred years.

But microscopes that have been around for nearly a hundred years, with their embarrassing results available to anybody with eyes to see, is the small stuff. On the fringes of White Science in the USA sits the American military and its confiscation of patents. It has done it for more than five thousand patents, and I believe that the lion’s share of those confiscations is around disruptive energy technologies. I believe that Adam Trombly had three of his energy technologies seized that way. The canard used to seize those technologies is “national security,” but that is a Big Lie. Anybody who knows anything about “national security” in the USA knows that it is virtually never invoked for real national security reasons, but to cover up crimes or to protect the economic rackets. Even a man from the “civil service” end of the CIA found that out in no uncertain terms:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#secrecy

But Ralph's experiences are the grade school version. Ralph is from the “White” CIA. The “Black” CIA is the province of contract agents, assassinations, advanced technology from Godzilla’s Golden Hoard and so on. I had a close relative who lived in that world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

That household name “diplomat” that he worked for is still active, and the focus of many conspiracy theories, many of which are likely true, at least partly. But the level that that “diplomat” plays at is below the Godzilla level, far below. In LaViolette’s Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, he does a good job of showing how antigravity research went “Black” in the 1950s, before I was born. The antigravity technology featured by LaViolette is energy-intensive, so without FE, such technology is going be marginally-effective.

Before Greer really got going with his Disclosure Project and those secret 1997 Congressional hearings, I already knew about some of what was being kept in the Golden Hoard, because one of my buddies was shown some of it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

When Greer began to go big like that, then Godzilla got active, and took out a bunch of the leading names of the effort with strange cancer cases:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

People like me watched it all happen from the sidelines, sadly. I have been on that stage before, and they can take you out pretty quickly. Greer survived, but was never really the same. Several years before Greer’s team was taken out, Brian O nearly died after rejecting an “offer” from the American military to be part of a cloak-and-dagger UFO project:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

Brian knew far more than he let on publicly about that situation, and only alluded to his life-threatening experience publicly, because he feared retribution if he named names (who are still around, by the way), but he wrote the forward to Greer’s book on his odyssey on the UFO and exotic technology front:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#_edn24

All that stuff blows the lid off of White Science so far that it makes the physics texts look like cave drawings, and there are many physics professors who uneasily realize it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#rubbish

But White Scientists are highly naïve, by and large,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

and all of that is almost instantly dismissed in their halls as a conspiracy theory (with shaky laughter), and that denial is also a natural result of seeing consciousness as a byproduct of chemistry. If nothing intentionally created the universe, then conscious manipulation of the global economy, and keeping technologies under wraps that defy the “laws of physics,” is so far beyond the puny imaginings of White Scientists, and blows their theories so far out of the water, that almost no White Scientist can begin to go there, so they stay quiet in their soft berths, dismissing all such evidence as a “conspiracy theory,” which is actually a highly irrational position to take, but it is the standard one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

But that does not make the fringe scientists and the conspiracists right, either. Most of what is called “Fringe Science” is invalid, for several reasons, and most “conspiracy theories” are barking up the wrong trees, even wholly fictitious trees, like faked moon landings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

Getting to the truth and the gold is like walking the razor’s edge. Because none of us are going to be invited to the underground exotic technology show anytime soon, we have to do stuff like go watch UFOs light up on request:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

or look through a Naessens Somatoscope (there is plenty of footage on the Internet today), or go take a Silva or similar class, and so on. It is possible to roll back the frontiers of White Science that way, for the rest of us.

With all of those limitations on White Science, there is still plenty of what it does that is not subject to “national security” secrecy, Godzilla’s turf protection activities, and so on. Those are areas where I have performed a great deal of study over the years, and future posts will deal with the nature of it, and contrast it with Fringe Science.

Time to go to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th June 2012, 13:54
Hi:

OK, a little on White Science and Fringe Science. As I stated before, Dennis’s heat pump (and Mr. Mentor’s hydraulic heat engine (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new) http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse), in their initial applications did not violate the “laws of physics” in any way. Even so, the inventors of the heat pump cut their performance data in half so that engineers would stop laughing at their “impossible” claims ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#seven). That was just the mindlessness of engineers and what they “knew,” not something that defied the physics texts. But the idea that Dennis’s heat pump could be married to Mr. Mentor’s engine was an example of Fringe Science or fringe technology, because that was beyond what White Science admitted was possible. Claiming to be able to defeat the Second Law of Thermodynamics is one of the boldest Fringe Science claims imaginable. Einstein had more confidence in the Second Law than in almost any other principle of physics. Mallove publicly stated that such a contraption might not break the second law (http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obituaries/2004/EugeneMallove/LastMessage040513/), although he stated privately to me that he did not take the Second law seriously, as he had performed experiments similar to Reich’s that poked holes in it. When I was with Dennis, other scientists approached us with theories that challenged the Second Law. It beats me if the Second Law can be defeated. Reich’s experiments have been controversial for many years (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#reich).

That is Fringe Science and technology, where experiments or working technology can challenge White Science’s theories. Ever since relativity and quantum theory appeared on the scene long ago, there have been many attempts to create a unified field theory, which can weld together gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak forces in the nuclei of atoms, which are the only forces recognized by White Science today. I have seen it alleged that Einstein himself derived it, but it got classified, similar to what is speculated to have happened to Tesla’s work. There has been a great deal of speculation regarding Tesla’s work. Tesla disagreed with relativity and proposed his own counter-theories, and you can trip the light fantastic if you begin to snoop around in allegations around the Philadelphia Experiment, The Montauk Project, and the rest. I have interacted some with that crowd, as has Dennis. If you want hard evidence, you are not going to find it, not there. And some of the players are pretty “out there.” How real are the allegations? Call me skeptical. Brian O and I would usually stay away from that stuff, as it is the usual province of a circus of claims, counterclaims, debunkers, self-styled experts and the rest. Unless you can really go chasing after the evidence yourself (and the chase does not risk your life, which it can in these realms), it is usually not very fruitful to chase after the claims, and it can send you down the rabbit hole.

Allegedly classified experiments and technologies aside, people have been challenging the orthodox perspectives of gravity and electromagnetism, in particular, for a long time, and I have encountered many of those counter-theories over the years, from Velikovsky to the Electric Universe people to Stan Deyo to Paul LaViolette and his subquantum kinetics, and several others that I am aware of. The bottom line is that the resources needed to put those theories to the test are far beyond what a fringe theorist can come up with, and any technologies that could demonstrate that they operate on different principles of magnetics, for instance, are also going to cost a pretty penny, usually far beyond the resources of a fringe theorist or tinkerer.

When somebody like Adam Trombly gets his hands on millions of dollars and begins building FE prototypes, then the “national security” apparatus, including spooks who may well work for Godzilla, get involved, and people like Adam get wiped out pretty quickly (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=404161&highlight=trombly#post404161). Or, somebody like Sparky Sweet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet), who was a career scientist who may have had theoretical help, develops something in his garage with a little help from his friends such as John Bedini and Tom Bearden, and eventually came to a grim end. Periodically, people such as Mark would stumble into FE, and would quickly receive a rude awakening (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392968/pg7).

They all had alternative theories that described how their experiments and technologies worked. We could call it Fringe Science, but when treading into FE territory, it can quickly become a Black Science issue. Rife’s and Naessens’s scopes were highly impressive Fringe Science discoveries. When Naessens tried to patent his microscope, he tried to explain its operation using White Science optical theories, and failed to do so. White Science can’t explain how it works. Yull Brown and Brown’s Gas was similar. Nobody really knows how Brown’s Gas works or what it really is, but Yull was more interested in what it could do, and his transmutation experiments were reproduced more than a hundred times, including by several national governments.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

But those are rather extreme examples of Fringe Science. They may be the most important examples, but the stakes are so high around them, and the environments can become so extreme, that they quickly go far beyond the typical way that science and technology development are conducted. The various alternative theories around gravity comprise gentler territory. It is only slightly gentler, however, when we get into antigravity, because it is joined at the hip with FE, as my friend saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

But, I am going to go in directions more like “pure science,” where the political-economic ramifications are not so immense, and show what I learned in pursuing White Science and Fringe Science.

I was always a big picture guy, probably as part of my early training. As I was digesting all manner of information in the early 1990s, one of my key questions was, “How did it come to be this way?” That is what led me down many historical paths. Those investigations became multi-disciplinary, and I did not know it yet, but they became comprehensive investigations. It was not until I discovered Bucky Fuller’s work in late 2002 that I understood what comprehensive or “generalist” meant.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

I had been doing it for many years, but did not know there was a name for it. Fuller said that specialization in White Science was intentionally encouraged, to keep scientists from seeing the big picture:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

So, what has been happening in the past generation, where the branches of White Science began to communicate with each other and develop multi-disciplinary understandings, is something new, and an unwelcome development, as far as Godzilla is concerned. But, as long as all the multidisciplinary stuff stayed on the materialist side of the fence, and did not veer from the “laws of physics,” then it could stay controlled and away from the really important stuff that Godzilla kept under wraps. Any evidence of Godzilla’s existence could readily be dismissed with a chuckle as a “conspiracy theory,” and the nutty conspiracy theories churned out daily by the paranoid (and some in that crowd are on Godzilla’s payroll, encouraging such crazed, tabloid-ish speculation) served to provide very murky waters that evidence of Godzilla’s existence could be easily tossed into, which would never be cleanly extracted from.

But, in many areas of investigation, the findings posed little or no threat to Godzilla’s hegemony, so those areas are pretty much left alone, although you will find plenty of conspiratorial musings in all fringe areas. A great deal of such conspiratorial theorizing is weak, at best. Not only is the evidence weak, but the motive for such conspiratorial behavior is also missing or minimal. Godzilla does not need to micromanage the situation. Just keep FE and related disruptive technologies under wraps, keep an eye on the very few efforts that get very far along, and the game is well in hand. The herd largely manages itself. In a world of artificially-enforced scarcity, there is seeming safety within the herd, and humans are herd animals. That self-herding behavior is responsible for the vast majority of the system’s inertia. For the herd’s size, Godzilla’s efforts are surprisingly modest. On an individual basis, when Godzilla targets Lone Ranger FE tinkerers, the tinkerer does not have a prayer. But, the tinkerers almost never unite their efforts, each trying to become the world’s hero who becomes rich and famous, history’s most important figure even, such are the delusions that beckon (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur), that such efforts nearly invariably self-destruct before they get very far along.

So, the next few posts are going to show what I learned in the areas of White and Fringe Science, in areas where Godzilla really does not need to play, or if he does, his efforts are mild compared to what he does when the stakes are as high as they are in the FE milieu (if FE happened, it would be Game Over for Godzilla, and he knows it http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar). The posts will be about geophysics, cosmology, the history of life on Earth and the human journey. It won’t be the essay that I am writing, but a kind “behind the scenes” account of what kinds of issues I encountered along the way, how White Science has been working lately, and where Fringe Science has come into the picture. It will stay away from much Black Science, because I will be dealing in areas where Godzilla is not too threatened.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
6th June 2012, 15:45
Hi:

Here is how my journey into White Science and Fringe Science went, after I moved from Ventura. As I related earlier, I began studying patents and thermodynamics, to better understand what Mr. Mentor and Victor Fischer had in mind with marrying their heat engines to Dennis’s heat pump. I was also reading up on White Science topics, such as the Michelson-Morley experiment, biographies of people like Einstein, etc.

At around that same time, I became aware of Gaston Naessens and Rife. I had already seen medical establishment gangsterism:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

so what I was discovering was not too surprising. As I dove into my researches, what was very common was that as I rifled through the footnotes of a book that I was studying, I would find interesting sources referred to, and I would obtain them. I “spidered” my way across many subjects in that fashion, sometimes ending up far from where I started. In the notes to one of Barry Lynes’s books on Rife and the cancer racket, I happened upon a reference to and recommendation for Ralph Hovnanian’s Medical Dark Ages, and I sent off for it. I have been Ralph’s friend ever since. Back when I was writing my diary/books that attempted to make sense of what I lived through, I transcribed about eighty pages out of Ralph’s quotation collages. It is by far the oldest part of my site today, transcribed about twenty years ago, before there was an Internet to surf:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm

It was in Medical Dark Ages that I read of the fate of the booklet that saved my father’s life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#banned

For all that I had been through already, I was surprised that books could be banned in the USA, especially something on “pure science,” like that booklet was. At the same time, my alternative media studies were kicking into high gear, and I discovered Ralph McGehee’s memoirs. While Ralph’s book was not banned, he had to undergo an epic legal battle to publish his memoirs of his CIA days, and the published book is riddled with censorship deletions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#secrecy

Before long, I was corresponding with Noam Chomsky:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#chomsky

and dumped my second book on him, the poor guy. :) He was gracious, but I was beginning to find out that it was hard to find any takers for stuff like the organized suppression of alternative energy. It was too far “out there” for the rad left, with organized suppression chalked up as a “conspiracy theory” and the notion of FE violating the “laws of physics.”

At the same time that I was immersing myself into those areas, I joined the U.S. Psychotronics organization and met Brian O in the summer of 1991:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#meet

I was encountering lots of Fringe Science. Nothing was sacred in those days. While I was once a space brat when my father worked in Mission Control:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

in about 1991 I obtained the first book that made the case that the public was not being told everything about the Apollo program’s moon landings.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#neutral

Before the 1990s were over, I did the digging that satisfied me that the Moongate thesis was deeply flawed, but I was also seeing an increasing stream of works that made the case that the moon landings were faked, and it was not until 2001 that I did the deep dive and came to the conclusion that the faked moon landings evidence was the kind of “evidence” that the fringes often served up, which turned out to be a collection of uneducated and sloppy interpretation of some evidence, active ignoring of other evidence, and a bunch of highly-strained hypothesizing that came from overactive and paranoid imaginations. While I had dived into many “alternative” areas by that time, going deep on the moon landings experience was good for me. The process was educational, and I recommend that anybody who studies the fringes goes deep at least once in their fringe careers; it can help them understand the dynamics of the fringe milieu. I went deep on the JFK assassination evidence over the years, and in that instance, I found that Gary Wean’s account of his meeting with John Tower, Audie Murphy and Bill Decker not only aligned with all the best assassination evidence, and that none of it contradicted it, but the evidence that has kept coming to light in the years since Gary first published his book keeps reinforcing what Gary claimed to have heard from Tower:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

The entire JFK affair is a case study in establishment cover-ups, but I also developed a healthy skepticism to fringe claims. It does not mean that are all invalid, not by any means, but the vast majority of them are. When Dennis was promoting inventors and their contraptions, he took Mr. Researcher with him on some trips, and usually the inventors did not have anything, but thought that they did, or what they came up with had little or no practical application. Much of what was stolen from Mr. Researcher in the raid:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

was likely not too valid or important, but some was. But if Godzilla thinks that you have something, even if you don’t, he is still going to break your door down to find out. I have seen that play out more than once over the years. That is one reason why I am not really interested in knowing “secret stuff” or storing evidence of it, as I have been asked to do at times. I have already had my office stripped to the walls once already, and don’t want to see it happen again.

At about the same time that I began studying the fringes in earnest, I began to study the “skeptics” that my father had warned me about many years earlier:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

and I was beginning to see what he was talking about. In the eyes of the “skeptics,” there is nothing valid at all to Fringe Science, and they invariably debunked evidence of the paranormal, from psychic phenomena to UFOs, while also attacking homeopathy and anything that was not mainstream science and medicine. I had already experienced and witnessed a great deal of undeniable paranormal phenomena, had heard about people like Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

had witnessed how dishonest the medical establishment could be, and so on, but the “skeptics” portrayed themselves as bastions of rationality and honest investigation. Digesting their findings led me to believe that they were either highly incompetent or dishonest, and at that time, I was not sure which it was, or a combination of both.

Then, in 1995, I was browsing in one of the fringe bookstores where I could often be found and stumbled upon a book on Carl Sagan and one of his “skeptical” targets, Immanuel Velikovsky. The book was by Charles Ginenthal. Velikovsky’s thesis was perhaps the first that I encountered that was a grand, multi-disciplinary synthesis. For the next several years, I was on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy, and still am today. Sagan’s attack on Velikovsky’s thesis in the 1970s killed all mainstream science interest in his theories:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#velikovsky

But the battle was still being waged on the fringes, as evidenced by Ginenthal’s book. I ended up interacting with most of the key players in the Velikovsky controversy. You can easily spend the rest of your lifetime chasing down all of the lines of evidence. Velikovsky tried to align ancient accounts from around the world, the Old Testament in particular, with physical evidence of global catastrophes, and Velikovsky also proposed alternative physics theories, including a challenge to the mainstream theories of gravity. Velikovsky had the interest of fellow Jew Albert Einstein, and when Velikovsky’s prediction that Jupiter would be found to emit radio waves was unexpectedly confirmed, the only book open on Einstein’s desk when he died was Velikovsky’s Worlds in Collision.

Welding mythology, archeology, geology, astronomy and physics together in a grand synthesis was indeed ambitious. It could even be called comprehensive. However, the problem with being a comprehensivist is that to go deep on any area takes a lot of time, and nobody can gain a specialist’s in-depth knowledge on all the areas, and it is perilous to spin too many theories by grazing the treetops of many disciplines like Velikovsky did. Velikovsky actually began with the Bible and then looked for evidence that tales of parting the Red Sea and manna from heaven were literally true, and then he developed theories to account for them. He is considered to be the last in a long line of Bible-based catastrophists. Although no serious scientist that I know of takes his new-Venus theory seriously, there have been other grand synthesis theories since Velikovsky that tread very similar territory, such as Paul LaViolette’s.

I have to go work now, but in the next few posts, I am going to show some of the paths that I trod as a result of becoming aware of Velikovsky’s theories and the many paths that led into. In 2000-2001, I decided that one of my goals was to resume my White Science studies, and I wanted to focus on the dating issue in particular. A lot of Velikovsky’s thesis, and those of his followers over the years, hinged on the dates of various artifacts, astronomical events, and earthly events such as the extinction of the mammoth.

A few years after I predicted something like it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#sunny

the 9/11 terror attacks:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

turned my nation insane:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

and I soon resumed my career, so my desire to go back to college and resume my math and White Science studies seemed to be on a permanent hold, but in performing the research for my upcoming essay over the past several years, I surprisingly obtained many of the answers that I was determined to find out when I decided to resume my White Science studies, particularly around the dating issue. A great deal of mainstream science’s views on evolution, mass extinctions, Holocene Epoch catastrophes, including the Quaternary extinction event (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5 ), geophysics and the formation of the solar system relies in great measure on accurately dating Earth rocks, moon rocks, meteorites, fossils, ice cores, tree rings, coral reefs, varves, sea sediments, and the like. I know a lot more about those issues than I did in 2001, and have rather unintentionally satisfied much of my curiosity about the dating methods, although I would still like to go deep on them one day, from a scientist’s perspective. Maybe one day, after I am “retired.” :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th June 2012, 03:02
Hi:

In the middle of this series of posts, I want to provide a framework so that the method of my madness will be easier to understand. For understanding how our world works, on the political/economic/environmental/technical/social front, and how energy drives it all, White Science is plenty. The primary upshot of my essay will be the environmental/economic/political/social ramifications of FE, and White Science is plenty for beginning to understand what FE can mean to humanity and the planet.

For understanding the kinds of energy solutions that Brian O wrote about, for instance, Fringe Science comes into play. For understanding what solutions already exist but are being kept under wraps, that is where Black Science comes into the picture. The primary thrust of my upcoming essay will be in White Science terms, although I will certainly give nods to Fringe Science and Black Science.

And at the end of this series of posts, I will make a pretty thorough post on Black Science and what I know about it. I do not claim to be an insider, but I have run into my fair share of Black Science over the years. The nature of that beast is that I cannot give out too many names, dates, and places, if any. That comes with the territory. If people begin to try to expose Godzilla and Black Science, their life expectancies can become drastically reduced, and I have no interest in playing that game. And if I gave out names, places and dates (and I usually make it a point to not know that kind of information), then I would likely be putting others at risk, and that is a low-integrity way to operate.

I’ll continue with this series of posts tomorrow.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th June 2012, 15:25
Hi:

I wrote a 600-page site in 1996, just before I joined Dennis again, which was my first attempt at writing a site. It had essays up to eighty pages long, with no links or bookmarks in it. I heard plenty of complaints :)

When I began writing the essays that became today’s site, the first ones were my Columbus and fluoride essays:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm

As I was performing my research in the early 1990s, I first read an account that questioned Columbus’s heroic image in Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States. In 1992, on the 500th anniversary of Columbus’s feat, David Stannard published his American Holocaust, which was my big wakeup call on what the “settling” of the Western Hemisphere was like. It was an unmitigated catastrophe for the inhabitants of the Western Hemisphere. The 16th century in the Western Hemisphere was the greatest proportional demographic catastrophe in world history, and as I began looking into it, I stumbled into one of the greatest controversies of anthropology, which was just how big a catastrophe it was.

Stannard argued that the Western Hemisphere likely had more than 100 million in habitants in 1491, and a century later, it was around 8 million, for a decline of more than 90%. Stannard is what is called a “high counter” in those circles. The “low counters” were the early anthropologists such as Alfred Kroeber,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kroeber

who estimated about 8 million natives in the Western Hemisphere in 1491. The debate has been raging since the 1930s. While Stannard has been derided as a high counter, he demonstrated his chops for the task with his Before the Horror, which made the case that the pre-contact Hawaiian population was closer to a million than the 200,000 found in academia before he published his book. His work has been influencing Hawaiian pre-contact demography ever since:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stannard#Works

In Before the Horror, Stannard cited many studies of “virgin” populations and their population declines after European contact. The average decline was more than 90%. Recently, demographer Massimo Livi-Bacci took a crack at it, and arrived at a 1491 population of 30-40 million, and the debate continues. But the nature of the debate is what drew me in twenty years ago. The high counters and low counters have had charges of political bias aimed at them, as well as critiques of their methods and assumptions. Because the debate is nearly solely among white people, who were the conquerors, the White Man’s bias is always a background noise to the affair, no matter how scholarly the attempts may be. I have had direct encounters with that bias on the scholarly front myself:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm

so I am always wary of it. The population studies are multidisciplinary, and combine archeological findings with disease mortality studied with the political-economy of the Western Hemisphere and the first contact and conquest accounts of the Europeans. I have a bunch of relatives who are directly descended from Christopher Columbus and proud of it. That likely had something to do with writing my Columbus essay.

The research on my fluoride essay was inspired by an article that appeared in 1997 in one of my radical political publications that I subscribed to, which was the result of research into recently declassified documents that showed that the federal government was interested in promoting fluoride because there had been fluorine accidents during the Manhattan Project, so promoting fluorine as not only safe but good for people was not just a corporate polluter project, but also a governmental one:

http://www.fluoridealert.org/wastenot414.htm

I would read declassified documents, read books on fluoridation, both pro and con, and crack open my college chemistry textbooks, and so on. At the same time, I was reading up on the history of Western Medicine, the conquest of the world by Europe, beginning with the Western Hemisphere, studying thermodynamics and patents, looking into the moon landings, studying catastrophic theory, etc. It is what I now know is called being a generalist, but I did not know it at the time. For me, it was just a quest for the truth. Those academic pursuits began to overlap, and I found that those can be small worlds. For instance, as I began to immerse myself in the Velikovsky controversy, I encountered Vine Deloria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_Deloria

He was one of the most famous catastrophists, and was the leading American Indian writer whom I already encountered in my American Holocaust studies. I interacted a little with him. We had another overlap, however. As I studied the American Holocaust, I also became aware of the megafauna holocaust, AKA the Quaternary extinction event:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

The megafauna holocaust was conjoined with the American Holocaust and catastrophism. The “overhunting” hypothesis was first presented by an American academic in the 1960s, which was also during the USA’s cultural awakening and militant American Indians making noise, such as the American Indian Movement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Movement

So, the political bias that was the background noise for the American Holocaust debate also became grist for the Quaternary extinction event debate, because if humans were responsible for the extinction of the mammoths and other megafauna in North America, then the prehistoric American Indian might not live up to the nature-worshipping ideal of the Noble Savage. Vine Deloria was right in the thick of the fray, hewing to a catastrophic explanation of the mass extinctions. Charles Ginenthal, following Velikovsky’s lead, wrote a book on the extinction of the mammoth. Why the obsession with the mammoth in North America and Northern Asia? As I looked into the matter further over the years, the megafauna quickly went extinct wherever humans showed up during the past fifty thousand years. Focusing on the mammoth is a huge red herring, IMO, which has become a political football for the various factions. South America had elephants too, and there were no continental ice sheets there, and they quickly went extinct when humans arrived. Humans were an incredibly disruptive influence, with their control of fire, their toolset and their group hunting tactics.

Also, in all those areas that had never seen humans before, the megafauna had no fear of humans, and probably never developed it before they went extinct. The catastrophic theorists argued that either those Biblical events caused some kind of catastrophe that killed off the mammoths, or floods as the glaciers receded did it, or a combination of them. LaViolette does the same thing in his work, which made me raise my eyebrows. He also got some of his facts wrong (or they are very outdated). I’ll present more specifics later, but these areas of debate have been quite interesting to follow over the years, and it ends up being a very multidisciplinary exercise.

Again, I did not know that I was a comprehensivist until one of Bucky Fuller’s pupils said that I was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

and then I read Fuller and understood. Finding Bucky’s work really helped crystallize my own thinking on a number of areas. Soon after encountering Bucky, about the time that we were invading Iraq to steal their oil:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

I encountered Richard Heinberg and the Peak Oilers. I was highly impressed with Heinberg’s multidisciplinary approach. He actually wrote about FE a little, but kind of semi-ridiculed it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg

and one of the inventors that he semi-ridiculed was Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

Brian O was recruiting me into NEM at about the same time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem

and it turned out that an activist who was heavily promoting my work at the time knew Heinberg, and I was introduced to him. The Peak Oil thesis is unassailable, IMO; we are going to run out of oil if we keep using hydrocarbon energy to fuel our industrialized civilizations, and the only question is when, and it likely will be soon, very soon. I was eager to help Heinberg understand the FE milieu, especially as he wrote about it and seemed interested. How wrong I was. He really did not want to hear about FE. He was on an austerity mission, and soon, many “progressive” publications featured him. He was not interested in interacting with Brian O, either. His message was one of total doom and gloom. It was really a hard one for me to understand, until I began reading the sources that influenced him. I came to understand that Heinberg is a neo-Malthusian:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#catton

and they really did not want to hear about abundance. After watching their drumbeat of doom for almost two years, and the “left” and “environmentalists” eating it up, I wrote those essays about Heinberg and his Peak Oil and neo-Malthusian buddies. It has only been in the last year or so that I also came to understand what had likely attracted me to Heinberg’s multidisciplinary approach: he used to be Velikovsky’s assistant!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Heinberg

It is indeed a small world in these circles.

Time to run.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
7th June 2012, 21:16
...When will general public see movies about Nicola Tesla? I want to see it one day...

I reached page 86 of the thread today and came across Hughe's post (partially quoted above.)
There is this Yugoslav film about Nikola Tesla, called The Secret of Nikola Tesla, with the one and only Orson Welles playing JP Morgan. http://youtu.be/dNGSOCzXv80
I quite enjoyed it - mainly because the actor playing Tesla portrays him with a poetic and otherworldly mystique. Wade, you recently (briefly) mentioned speculation about Tesla's work, so I thought this might be in keeping with the bright light of science currently beaming its theme through the thread :)

Apologies if it's been posted already between Page 86 and here. When I discovered it I spent the first few minutes of it wide eyed with joy at the fact the movie even existed. It has an offbeat charm that almost seems fitting for the (sadly still) fringe nature of the subject.

Thank you for the recent posts. An abundance of links.

Wade Frazier
8th June 2012, 16:12
Hi:

Quickly, before I go to work….

White Science has a lot going for it, and a lot that is bad about it. It is that way for about any human endeavor that you can think of. In college, we were taught to read the professional literature, such as can be found in Nature or Science. Each subspecialty of science has its own specialist publications. Specialist literature can become very difficult to read and understand, because it has not only highly specialized language, but the concepts can be very difficult to grasp, where you have to spend years in training to get to the point where you can understand the issues, arguments and evidence. It can get very arcane, and a lot of it is literally meaningless because it sits under the rubric of a false paradigm, and the issues can be like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

When Galileo was forbidden to refer to observation (“Just look through my telescope!”), he then couched his arguments in math, as a way to get around the Church’s censors. Newton did something similar. In Joseph Schwartz’s The Creative Moment, he made the case that those tactical decisions sent a great deal of White Science off in the wrong direction, making it unnecessarily arcane, turning the scientific establishment into a priesthood. There have been studies of scientific papers that concluded that the numerical presentations in most of them were false or misleading, due to uncontrolled variables and other flaws. The best scientists were fully aware of the deficiencies in using math in science. Einstein said that the more impressive the math in scientific theories and models, the less likely they would conform to the real world.

I crunch numbers for a living, supposedly depicting economic reality with my efforts. When you do that for a living, numbers alone fail to impress. In fact, Wall Street has created incredibly complex financial instruments, and it galls me that I am going to Manhattan to take a class in complex financial instruments. Wall Street has essentially created a false reality with all of its shenanigans, similar to how a lot of White Science has ended up operating. Many White Scientists unknowingly serve evil empires with their work, and a similar situation has occurred in the area of high finance. Most of the practitioners fall under the spell of all of that theory and math, and actually believe the BS, like Alan Greenspan, with his worship of Ayn Rand. It was sad to watch, in the middle of the meltdown a few years ago, to see Greenspan essentially admit that his theories and models did not reflect reality. Duh!

Unfortunately, most of what passes for economics today is obsessed with the exchange aspect of economics, like money, banking, taxation and the like. None of that is relevant in the slightest to the big economic issues that humanity faces. The real economy runs on matter and energy, not money and banking, but the fiction is that all those “wizards” on Wall Street, the Fed and elsewhere have some keen understanding of how the world works and can be trusted to run things. What a crock.

The best scientists try to make their work accessible to those outside of their cloistered specialty, and I have digested a great deal of that over the years. Einstein himself eagerly read such works when young. There are good ones and bad ones. Sagan was a charlatan on that front:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

but I have seen the guy worshipped in the halls of White Science on many occasions. That says something about White Science that is not pretty. In upcoming posts I will get into some detail on this issue.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
9th June 2012, 03:41
Hi Wade,

Interesting to read this last post of yours, it kinda answered my (internal) question as to why you wished to resume white science studies in 2001. on one hand you wanted to go deep on the dating issue, which can be an assiting tool in measuring and testing some of the important theories. on the other hand, being such an aware person as you are to the limits and biases of the mainstrean education establishments, It is somewhat surprising. (not expressing an opinion either way :) , However it becomes quite obvious that when you chose to delve into any one subject, you do it with studing and considering the issue at hand from all its angles, like reading pro and con flouridation books.
To be quite honest, most of us delve in mainly on the one aspect that we feel more attracted to within our own views or by what we are willing to inspect. talk about justification...

I have a brief question though, I wonder whether (to the best of your knowledge) in recent years, where there any advancment in some areas of white science like biology, biochemistry,physics etc. towords a more 'fringe' conclusions, or is it stil very much kept intact within the 'safe limits' of where Godzila would expects it to stay?

There seem to be so many types of 'holocausts' in our human history, that undoubtedly a world based on free energy will minimize or better yet, diminish alltogether all those different catastrophes.


Thank you very much Wade, as always

Wandering ponderer - thank you for the Tesla movie link and for your thoughtful posts


Cheers,

Limor

Wade Frazier
9th June 2012, 13:54
Hi Limor:

Great post, big subject, and one that I was planning on covering more in this series of posts. Yes, Fringe Science and technology can become White Science and Technology, or Black Science and technology, or it can stay on the fringes. It is really difficult to generalize here, but the political-economic situation around the Fringe, White or Black Science and technology is often what dictates the way that the issue goes.

As Max Planck alluded to and somebody else said more bluntly, White Science advances funeral by funeral:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#real

Almost all radical breakthroughs are greeted by White Science and technology as “That’s crazy!” The Wright brothers being ignored by White Science for five years after they first flew is a classic example:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright

Far too often, unfortunately, if the breakthrough is really good, the pioneer gets hung out to dry while the establishment steals it. It happens all the time in medical science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#steal

Detroit stole what it could not suppress, as I found out long ago from one of the unwitting thieves:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor

Everything that Mr. Mentor invented was either stolen or suppressed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

I have seen examples where Fringe Science pioneers, long after they were wiped out, had their discoveries “discovered” by White Science. It is happening today with the “discovery” of nanobacteria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacterium

Rife was seeing those forms, smaller versions of bacteria that orthodoxy said did not exist, nearly a hundred years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

but you are not going to find his name mentioned in those debates on nanobacteria, incredibly.

I don’t shrink from controversial subjects, because that is where incredible truths can be found. But there can also be far less than meets the eye there, too. Because the evidentiary lines can go pretty deeply, one of the best “cheats” is to immerse yourself in both ends of the issue, because each side is going to present their best evidence and arguments. Then you can follow each side of the argument, and see where it takes you. Sometimes you have to go pretty deep, and often it will go too deep, to where you need years of training to even begin to get there, and you have to stand back and say, “beats me.” On most of it, however, you can go there with a little time and effort.

For instance, I had a live blood reading done by a dark field microscope about a year after I discovered Rife and Naessens. The scope did not have the Naessens scope’s resolution, but it was a pretty amazing experience to have my blood read that way. The tech put it on a video screen so that we could both see it. The practitioner was familiar with the Naessens forms, and described some of them in my blood. I have also seen debunkers try to invalidate it all, and one effort was so poor that it seemed like it was half-banged out on the debunker’s lunch hour. Again, what do you think might be more useful, movies of life or snapshots of death? The medical establishment chooses death. Robert Mendelsohn even went so far as to say that death was the medical establishment's god:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#mendelsohn

I had a death threat issued in my vicinity just last year on a breakthrough cancer treatment. Again, the medical gangsters are more vicious than the energy gangsters. Of course, the establishment hacks dismiss it as a “conspiracy theory,” but when the death threats are made almost within earshot, you find out differently.

Regarding fluoridation, for instance, when declassified documents begin to confirm the “conspiracy theories” of sixty years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold

it gets one’s attention.

But that does not mean that all the fringe stuff is valid, not by any means. The faked moon landings issue is a red herring, where disinformation is continually recycled:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010&viewfull=1#post478010

Several years ago, I wrote an essay on the pitfalls that people encounter when exploring the fringes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

Those are not areas for quick-study artists, and I try to keep my toe in the water on most of the subjects that I cover on my site, because there are continually new developments, and I wish I had years of free time to go a lot deeper than I already have, but my daily life is too demanding, so I do all of this in my “spare” time, and my wife puts up with it.

But, one of the classic statements about the breakthroughs is that today’s heresy becomes tomorrow’s dogma. That is when Fringe Science becomes White Science. Fringe Science can also become Black Science. Those five thousand patents that got the national security seizure often became Black Science projects.

I have written it before on this thread, in one of my first posts at Avalon:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=92348&viewfull=1#post92348

that I was asked to review a manuscript that told of the fates of literally hundreds of exotic materials and technologies that came to the West when the Soviet Union collapsed. Brian O asked me to review the manuscript. When the author tried to publish a book that recounted his interactions with those Soviet Bloc scientists and technicians, a former USA Secretary of Defense literally delivered a death threat to him, if he tried to publish his book. That is the province of Black Science, and there are levels of it that go far beyond the military establishment.

I can’t reveal much publicly, but when Brian nearly died after refusing an “offer” to work on a UFO project for the military,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

Brian believed that Black Science technologies were used in the murder attempt. From what I know, I don’t doubt it. A number of the murder attempts that Adam Trombly has been subjected to used Black Science techniques:

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-starchild-program-zero-point-energy-part-1.html

Sometimes, with people like Adam, his technologies don’t become Black Science so much as they are already Black Science projects, and he is playing in areas that Godzilla explored long ago, and 35th-generation technology already exists, and Adam was making a first-generation version of it. Down those technical paths lie FE and other disruptive technologies, and Godzilla is vigilant. People like Adam get taken out pretty quickly when they begin going down those paths. Their technology gets seized or destroyed, “legally” or illegally, they get the offer they cannot refuse, or they are the targets of efforts to wipe them out, and murder attempts are not unusual, I am sorry to report.

Of course, the naïve White Scientists cannot begin to comprehend that territory, so it is all denied, usually by dismissing it as a “conspiracy theory,” or if they don’t deny it, they will parrot the “national security” mantra while rationalizing that evil treatment as somehow justified. You have to see it to believe it.

I’ll give another little peek into some of the Black Science world.

I don’t know if I will ever be able to reveal the name of the household-name diplomat that a close relative worked for as a contract CIA agent, but I will relate a little anecdote about his spook days. As I have written, he eventually drank himself to death:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

which I am sure was related to the emotional toll of his secret life. He would go on week-long “benders,” where he was continually drunk. That was how he often spent his “off time” from the spook world, which was undoubtedly also one of the reasons for his checkered public career. One day, he was in the midst of one of his benders, and he got the call. They needed him to go play spook. He told them that he was pretty far under and in no shape to play spook that day, and they said that it was no problem, and they would be by soon to pick him up. They picked him up in one of those spook vans that you see in the movies, and as they were driving him to their spook facility, they injected him with something. In less than a minute, he was stone sober. I don’t know what the heck they game him, and he did not know either, but I doubt that you can buy it over the counter. :)

A lot of the fringes that stays on the fringes, to never become either White Science or Black Science and technology, stays there for a reason. Not necessarily because it is not valid, but that is often the case. I don’t like using the words “crackpot” or “crank” – those are part of the debunker lexicon that is often thrown at anybody that is not pursuing White Science and technology - but a great deal of the fringes is simply not valid. The Wright brothers’ efforts, for instance, was their life’s work, and I have read that if they did not do what they did, that mankind might not have learned to fly until the 1920s, they were so far ahead of their contemporaries. Laboring in obscurity and even ridicule is all-too-often the path of the pioneer, but the invalid stuff suffers the same fate, and the person pursing it also can make it his (usually - women are rarely that foolish :) ) life’s work, obsessively pursuing it, usually with friends and family who barely tolerate the person's obsession. In the early stages, breakthrough fringe science and technology looks a lot like the invalid stuff. Most of my family thinks that I went off the deep end long ago. I just don’t talk about it with them, and they let me be “weird.”

Others, however, get a sniff of the magnitude of the game I am playing, and fixate on me. That has led to painful situations and estrangements. Those who fixate on me usually end up attacking or betraying me, when they realize that they really can’t play the game that I am playing, or they go off the deep end themselves, and some ended up in rubber rooms or eventually will. You need your feet planted firmly on the ground to play these games.

On the whole, I would rather be dismissed as a weirdo than be fixated on. Those who can actually go there with me and develop productive understandings are vanishingly few. I don’t say that I am looking for needles in haystacks because I have some kind of theory. A lifetime of woeful experience on these matters has informed my perspective, as well as trading notes with my few fellow travelers such as Brian O and Dennis.

I have a busy weekend ahead of me, but I plan to make at least one post on the White Science and Black Science issue.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
9th June 2012, 15:01
...Unfortunately, most of what passes for economics today is obsessed with the exchange aspect of economics, like money, banking, taxation and the like. None of that is relevant in the slightest to the big economic issues that humanity faces. The real economy runs on matter and energy, not money and banking, but the fiction is that all those “wizards” on Wall Street, the Fed and elsewhere have some keen understanding of how the world works and can be trusted to run things...
I'm so tired of hearing that the cycles and downturns of the 'world economy' are somehow a necessary occurrence; as if people losing their jobs, their homes, their health, is just as natural and unavoidable as the changing of the seasons. It's a lie.
It's a sad state of affairs when comical clips like the one below seem to offer a clearer perspective on the world's finances than the economic experts in the mainstream news. http://youtu.be/NOzR3UAyXao
To my mind, money is one of the strangest illusions currently experienced. It's a complex point. But even saying something like that makes some people break out in a rash, fearing the only alternative would be communism (and its shoddy history) or some other kind of control mechanism. The vision I've always held about the potential of new energy solutions is that we'll start to need money less for our basic daily needs; then other, more valuable words can start to take its frequent place in daily conversation. Words like collaboration, adventure, "no problem" and "my pleasure." It's just a little vision, but it feels worthwhile.

Limor... Interesting question about the potential crossover of scientific perspectives. I look forward to the answer.

Update: To avoid confusion, I wrote the above before Wade's answer appeared :)

Wade Frazier
9th June 2012, 15:35
Hi AWP:

To respond to some of your posts… Orson played Mr. Big in his last days a few times it seems:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related

Yes, the economic system is rigged, to keep everybody in fear and on the edge. That is how Godzilla stays in power, and his minions are many, and the sheeple play along. If FE can make it past the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia and foibles, none of life’s necessities will be subject to the market system. All food, clothing, medicine, housing, transportation, communication, and personal effects will be freely provided to all, as it will require very little human effort to provide it. The rest of the economy will be pretty small, and that may be subject to some kind of market discipline, but that should fade away pretty quickly, and money and exchange-related jobs and institutions will quickly go the way of living in caves and slavery.

Off to chores now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
9th June 2012, 15:47
Hi again,

It seems as if Max Planck has related to the natural change of generations. It might be that any progression needs a good long digestion before it reaches a hold in the human brain, not to mention becomes a consensus and something strong enough to lean on.
In a way, it is strange, because there are things like a working FE devices that are an actuall proof. 'it is crazy', sure, but it is working, and the possibilities absolutely worth further investigation, whats surprising is the easiness of the mind to say 'no' and refuse new information accesses.
The few individuals who are allowing themselvs to have considerations beyond the existing paradigm boxes are free thinkers and according to what Wade say, there must be plenty of those in the service of black science.

If there is any consolation for inventing something and having a breakthrough only for it to be stolen ,either for it to be used or supressed by the establishment, is the thought process that this long and hard procedure has required in order for it to become real. this is eternal and can not be stolen. it has been placed on the 'ether' and has more chances to be realized. I am risking writing it here, but I will anyway - thoughts, intentions, realizations are a strong method of energy, and can be equally as strong as actions. at this point in our human understanding that will probably not be any lifeline for those individuals who were beaten by the establishment, and their names have been forgoten, but I believe that in the grand scheme of things it is valid.

You imply that fringe science can become black science, you probably refer to the technologies and not to the people, or are you, Wade? some scientists/inventors must be 'bumping' into something without actually putting their hearts into the broader perspective of it, whether it is medical, scientific discovery, physics etc. and might be willing to be 'convinced' to join forces with secrecy. I only guess this type of scenario exists as well.

It can be interesting to know what can be another reason besides 'not really valid' to allow a fringe science stay on the fringe...


Cheers,

Limor


p.s


Your wife seems to be a supporting pillar in your life, you a are very lucky.

Wade Frazier
9th June 2012, 16:13
Hi Limor:

I am about to go out the door for my busy day, but Fringe Scientists have become Black Scientists. That “offer” that Brian could not refuse was one of those offers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

The recruiting pitches can be very seductive. My relative who became a CIA contract agent was recruited with the macho/patriot/James Bond pitch, and I doubt that he ever really figured out the evil game that he was part of. When the subtle plays do not work, then it can become more frank. Some Fringe Scientists became Black Scientists because the big carrots and sticks got brought out, like the, “Take this bag of $10 million and come work for us, or your family will be dead by dawn” trick. They also play the “Take the money and quit, or your family will be dead by dawn” game. To rich guys that they cannot buy, it can be “Stop what you are doing, or your family will be dead by dawn.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#windmill

There are many ways that the game is played, but the goal is the same: domination of the world economy, and hence, humanity. The worst of them would rather wipe out humanity and make Earth uninhabitable rather than lose that god-like power. The dark side is dark indeed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

Some Fringe Scientists stay on the fringe not because their work is invalid but because they did not take the offer. Many of them are dead, but some, like Adam, survive the murder attempts and other mayhem. If anybody becomes a grave threat, however, and that means that they may potentially upset the rackets/markets:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

then they are very harshly dealt with. Only people like Dennis can survive that stuff for long, and they all feel the abrasion, which people criticize them for, as they are no longer ideal candidates to lead the charge. Heck, none of us are ideal candidates, but I would stack Dennis, Adam, and Brian up against any of the many others out there who think they can lead the charge. Those are great men who lived through unbelievable experiences, and Brian’s adventures shortened his life, and I will be surprised if Dennis lives too many more years. His body has a lot of miles on it.

Yes, my wife is one of my blessings.

Running out the door now.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
9th June 2012, 16:26
"thoughts, intentions, realizations are a strong method of energy, can be equally as strong as actions."
I'm glad you included that Limor. I believe it is true. I believe that strong and clear intentions result in the most effective action, and that of lessor if not the least resistance. I also understand that that is what Wade is aiming at in creating his choir of lambs.

From the heart and head, a strong and clear intention to increase an abundance paradigm...with a matching outcome of action.

Wade Frazier
9th June 2012, 18:44
Amen, CdnSirian, Amen.

Robert J. Niewiadomski
9th June 2012, 21:57
The phenomenon of denying truth in what someone else is reporting to them is "natural" for some people. It is an autonomic reaction. Often absentminded one. Topics like FE are extreme examples of that reaction. That type of personality can deny you in such a situation like reporting seeing celebrity on the street, or hearing something in the news... It has something to do with their assumption about the world not being compatible with audio-visual input they receive. They simply say it is impossible. And move on... They are sure their assumption is rock solid. They even not think of verifying it...

My kids behave sometimes that way :( The results are pitiful :( We talk about it and we learn together to verify our assumptions... It is hard...

Wade Frazier
9th June 2012, 22:17
Hi Robert:

All paradigms are built on assumptions, and all paradigm shifts come from questioning the assumptions of the dominant paradigm. “Reasonable” people like to think that their assumptions are based on rock-solid empirical facts, but poke any assumption hard enough, and it wiggles. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th June 2012, 01:26
Hi:

This post will get into the details a little between White Science, Fringe Science and Black Science, and I will focus on the climate and ice age issues. White Science is really pretty young, on the timescale of human civilization. The ancient Greeks had mathematicians and what we might call scientists. Many ancient civilizations created engineering marvels, and what survives is generally worked in stone. There is still plenty of “how did they do it?” theorizing, but nobody on the White Science scene has had to invoke mystical or advanced technological explanations for the monumental architecture and other feats of engineering and construction. While many of the technical feats of Rome, for instance, were about building aqueducts and other imperial infrastructure, much of it was designed to impress the masses and justify the position of the elites. I am not sure that there is a significant exception in the study of ancient civilizations. But civilizations rose and fell, and advanced astronomical knowledge, for instance, would be lost when the civilizations almost inevitably collapsed, with the remnant populations eventually dismantling some of the monumental architecture for other uses, and many Angkor and Mayan structures, for instance, were completely reclaimed by the jungle and were largely out of memory, until they were rediscovered relatively recently.

During Europe’s medieval period, much knowledge was lost, helped along by the Church’s bonfires, and the ancient Greek writings were only reintroduced to Christian Europe during the Spanish Reconquest, when Islamic libraries became available to Christian scholars.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

But modern Western science, in its current phase, is considered to have begun in 1543, when Copernicus and Vesalius published their seminal works, although the struggle against inertia and dogma was a hard one. Science and industry was not really ascendant and triumphant until the Enlightenment of the late 18th century. It was only then that Earth was suspected to reside in something eventually called a galaxy, and that our galaxy was one of many:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy#Distinction_from_other_nebulae

The idea that Earth had ice ages is a younger concept, not first proposed until 1837:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Agassiz#Ice_age

and like any radical new theory, it took a while for it to take hold, as more evidence was amassed. Even today, there is controversy as to what exact interplay of factors causes them, but there is little disagreement on what the causal factors are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age#Causes_of_ice_ages

In his Plows, Plagues and Petroleum, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, William Ruddiman, gives a professional’s overview of the state of ice age White Science. The major factors considered are similar to that Wikipedia summary. The primary reason for the gradual cooling of Earth for the past 55 million years or so is thought to be a decline in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The sun is thought to be gradually growing brighter as it ages, and will one day consume the Earth (see Ward and Brownlee’s The Life and Death of Planet Earth, for instance). Sunspot activity is one piece of evidence for variability in the solar output, but it is thought to be a modest influence on Earth’s climatic variability, at least according to White Science.

The effects on the carbon dioxide levels are thought to be an interplay of sources, primarily volcanoes, and its removal, primarily by weathering (with creation of the Himalayas, a relatively recent event on the geological timescale, being the primary source of weathering, as fresh rock is exposed to be weathered by the weak carbonic acid in rainfall). Ruddiman, as well as every other serious scientist that I have seen in this area of study, says that White Science is under siege from the hydrocarbon lobby and its minions, as they try their best to absolve the prodigious burning of fossil fuels from having any significant atmospheric effects. No serious scientist disputes the role of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases (three-atom and larger molecules) in the warming of the atmosphere. The White Science consensus is that Earth would be an ice ball if not for the atmosphere’s carbon dioxide. It is really hard to argue against it. The hydrocarbon lobby has created a controversy that does not deserve to exist, and Ruddiman is trying to take on the hydrocarbon lobby’s propaganda, after having his face rubbed in it when he made waves several years ago with his theory that humankind has been warming Earth for several thousand years with its activities, which have increased the atmosphere’s carbon dioxide and methane concentrations.

The biggest variable in the 100,000-year glacier intervals for the past 2.5 million years, however, is thought to be the variability in Earth’s orbit. There are three cycles of Earth’s orientation to the sun – the eccentricity of its orbit, its axial tilt toward the sun, and the wobble of its axis (the precession of the equinoxes) – which have 100,000, 41,000 and 22,000 year cycles. The White Science community is virtually unanimous that the interplay of those cycles is the primary driver of the advancing and retreating ice sheets for the past 2.5 million years. There are also positive and negative feedback effects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age#Positive_and_negative_feedbacks_in_glacial_periods

and the orientation of the land masses certainly are also involved. With the Arctic Ocean virtually landlocked, the expectation is that this ice age will last for millions more years until the land masses retreat back toward the equator sufficiently to free the Arctic Ocean and move the land masses to warmer climates. One theory is that the closing of Panama’s isthmus millions of years ago was the trigger for our current ice age, but it is a minority position. As with all White Science areas, there is plenty of debate, scientists trying to make their marks, honestly disagreeing, and in this area, commercial interests are obviously fouling the waters, as some scientists have sold their souls, and about the most famous one was once Brian’s colleague:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sold

to Brian’s disgust.

Anyway, that is a brief summary of the White Science on the issue. Doug Macdougal’s Frozen Earth is a good introduction to the ice age issue and the history of the science.

In previous posts, I gave a little history of my Fringe Science explorations. While the best scientists often try to make their work accessible to non-specialists (like Andrew Knoll’s Life on a Young Planet, or Ward and Brownlee’s books, or Ruddiman’s, or Brian Fagan’s many generalist efforts in anthropology), I have also read plenty of works aimed at non-scientists from the fringes, and not many of them held up to scrutiny, or they took a very idiosyncratic approach to the evidence, and I am sorry to say that I found it in LaViolette’s works. I wrote earlier about the controversies over the megafaunal extinctions, but I found that everybody who disputed the impact of humans was grinding an ax of some kind, either protecting the memory of their ancestors, like Vine Deloria did, or heavily weighting the ice sheets of the Northern Hemisphere or celestial events such as comet impacts.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=502525&viewfull=1#post502525

Those explanations simply do not line up very well, if at all, with the available evidence. It is one thing to disagree with the orthodox theories, but I believe that a fringe theorist has an obligation to his audience to at least summarize the orthodox position and its problems before trying to make the case for his fringe theory.

LaViolette barely touches the orthodox theories before proposing interstellar dust clouds that make the sun’s output highly variable and also would dim the sun as far as how much sunlight hit Earth. When he discussed why are having an ice age now, he only mentioned the Panama Isthmus, failed to even mention the orbital variables, and then proposed his cosmic dust explanation (see Earth Under Fire, p. 137). He repeatedly cited Newsweek in his notes on scientific matters, which means that he is not addressing a scientific audience. It is one thing to propose his galactic superwave theories as alternatives to the White Science perspective, but I think that he owes it to his audience to at least say what the orthodox position is. His only mention of the orbital variations first proposed by Milankovitch is a brief mention and dismissal on page 321 of Earth Under Fire. While there are plenty of unresolved issues with the Milankovitch Cycles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

it is the dominant explanation for the timing of the ice sheet advances and retreats of our current ice age, and I doubt that anybody significant in the field is saying that Milankovitch’s theory is wrong. There is plenty to LaViolette’s theories to make one think, but his work skims the surface of the issues, and that can mislead his audience.

LaViolette does something similar with the megafaunal extinction issue. He states that the megafaunal extinction event was the greatest in North America (p. 207, Earth Under Fire), but the extinction of South America was arguably worse, as was Australia’s:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#The_Pleistocene_or_Ice_Age_extinction_event

Not a single species that originated in South America over 100kg survived the joining of the continents a few million years ago and the subsequent arrival of humans. As I have written, the focus on North American megafauna and the ice sheets or impacting bolides is a red herring, IMO, and fails to acknowledge that the megafauna on those three continents quickly disappeared shortly after the arrival of humans, and Australia’s happened 40,000 years before those of the Americas.

And what does Black Science have to do with any of it? None that I can see, but maybe there is some. But Black Science usually takes place in highly-controlled environments, and paleontologists and anthropologists are digging all over the planet. I have heard tales of cover-ups of disquieting evidence, but they almost invariably are just stories, and ones that I find increasingly implausible, as I have done my studies over the years. When fringe archeologists aver that they found some ancient civilization, one way out of alignment with the current orthodox thinking, the evidence is almost always pretty shaky.

I am trying to not pick on LaViolette here, but that kind of writing is very common in Fringe Science, especially when the theorist is trying to create some grand unified theory of everything. There are plenty “theory of everything” theories out there.

My grand theory is that the unified field is God, but that is not a very satisfying scientific answer, I am afraid. :) But until consciousness enters the equations of White Science, it will be playing a small game. There is a lot that LaViolette avers that I can get along with, such as that the universe is not expanding from a Big Bang, that there is an ether, and so on, and there are plenty of people promoting similar theories. I am not saying that White Science always right, obviously, but most Fringe Science is not valid. The debunkers call much of it pseudoscience, but that is a very fuzzy epithet that has been thrown around indiscriminately by people like Carl Sagan.

I am going to go play husband now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th June 2012, 15:15
Hi:

OK, here is some on Black Science, and it is related to another issue that I am pursuing regarding Brian’s legacy:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=61.0

You can see one of the respondents playing at being a lawyer, trying to turn the issue into a court of law, which was a totally inappropriate response, as were his others, but so it is with establishment defenders. When I sacrificed my life, which resulted in springing Dennis from jail and us hiring Mr. Big Time Attorney:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#big

I got a real-world education in how the legal system works. He gave the IRS a black eye in the U.S. Supreme Court, but during our travails in Ventura, he once said something like, “If you are trying to find the truth in a courtroom, you are looking in the wrong place.”

Black Science is never going to be dragged into court, and it is naïve to think so. The closest that it came to that was probably when Greer mounted those Disclosure Project joint Congressional hearings in 1997, and then nearly every key player got strange forms of cancer immediately after the hearings, with most of them dying:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

That is what happens if you begin to poke around in Black Science, especially when it is threatened with exposure. In Marxian terms, keeping Black Science under wraps is about controlling the means of production. FE, antigravity and the like, if they became publicly available, would quickly make the world’s power structure obsolete, which is why Godzilla watches those avenues so closely.

Before one of the hearings on Capitol Hill, when Greer was just getting his feet wet, he was in the impressive chambers, looking at all of the bronze plaques, and an insider said to him, “You are now playing against the varsity team.” Greer was never the same after 1997, but of what he says he experienced, I have little doubt about, and I’ll get to some of those converging lines of evidence soon.

Black Science sits way above our puny public institutions. The situation reminds me of that scene with Marlon Brando in A Dry White Season, where he says something like, “The law and justice are distant cousins, but in South Africa they are not on speaking terms.” :) It is that way with Black Science and our public institutions.

Paul LaViolette did a good job, IMO, of tracking the history of electro-gravity research and when it went black in the 1950s, before I was born (in his Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion). But Black Science probably goes way, way back, even back to ancient mystery schools, and the science of consciousness was likely far more developed than that of technology in those days.

In the modern era, Black Science really got going around the time of Tesla. Electricity was a radically-transforming technology, which could separate the source and use of energy in ways previously unimaginable, and when Tesla began pursuing energy that people did not need to pay for, then J.P. Morgan quickly pulled the rug from under him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla

The feds seizing Tesla’s notes right after he died was just par for the course.

Of course, the big problem with Black Science is that it is covered under a veil of secrecy. Sometimes the veil is penetrated, however briefly, and we can get a glimpse, but generally those who go to the inside on Black Science get a one-way ticket. The UFO issue really ramped up after World War II, and some early events show how the Black Science secrecy apparatus was still evolving, and the Roswell crash will suffice as an example. The initial crash and recovery was covered in the newspapers like just another story, although a spectacular one. The Marcel and Haut testimony years later:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_accounts_of_the_Roswell_UFO_incident#Jesse_Marcel.27s_testimony

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident#Walter_Haut_controversy

provides evidence that the security apparatus was still forming when the incident occurred. The debunkers have been all over it for a long time, but the crazed explanations by the Air Force (like the crash test dummies) and others leave many observers strongly doubting the official story.

The evidence is strong that the national security state took over the USA after World War II. Hiring death camp Nazis to guide the CIA’s policy toward the Soviet Union is evidence of where things were headed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#nazi

The debunkers would have us believe that there is good reason for keeping so much secret behind the veil of national security, but anybody with real world experience in the milieu knows that “national security” is almost invariably code for “covering up crimes or protecting the rackets.” Even a “White” effort like Ralph McGehee’s was subjected to that kind of treatment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#secrecy

Very few people have the integrity and guts to even try to do what Ralph did, and his battle clearly shows why virtually no critical memoirs exist by ex-CIA personnel. And that is from the “civil service” end of the CIA. That CIA man who delivered the offer of a billion dollar bribe to Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

was also almost certainly from the civil service side of the CIA, but he was delivering the offer on behalf of private interests, which provides more evidence of the half-joke that the CIA is the standing army of the Fortune 500:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#gehlen

as it was founded by Wall Street lawyers, and people like Allen Dulles quickly “rehabilitated” many of Hitler’s biggest industrial supporters in Germany and put them right back into the positions of power that they had while shepherding Hitler’s rise to power. A lot of that is in the public record, with declassified documents. The federal government’s push to fluoridate the USA’s water supplies is horrifying enough, just from the documents that have been declassified:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold

and we will likely never know how deep it all went, and only the naïve can dismiss the allegation that fluoridation is part of a program to intentionally dumb down the people of English-speaking countries. That dynamic goes all the way back to the English Civil Wars of the 1600s, when the “rabble” began to have a say in its governance and the state lost its ability to inflict violence on its subjects with impunity. As people like Chomsky make the case, and he is anything but a conspiracist, the science of controlling what people think developed into a method of population control in the West ever since the English rulers lost their ability to rule by violence. That became a science in the 20th century:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

But that is almost all from the “White” side of the fence. The Black side is all-too-real, but you are not going to encounter it unless you do stuff like try to bring disruptive energy technology to the public, like we did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

or Adam Trombly did:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=501338&viewfull=1#post501338

or Sparky Sweet did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

and then you find out real quickly about how the world really works, and the foot soldiers of Black Science appear. The spooks never write memoirs, or if they do, take it with a grain of salt. I am always very skeptical when alleged spooks come forward. They are tainted by their background, and some are playing a game, not really coming forward with the truth, and because of the secret nature of the spook world, much of it totally unaccountable to the world’s governments, anybody can say, “I was a spook, and I am now coming forward with my story.” What made the Disclosure Project witnesses so compelling is that most were not spooks, but people who saw what they should not, and they came forward. It is hard to portray Gordon Cooper as a nut:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Cooper#UFO_claims

and Ed Mitchell co-chairing those Congressional hearings with Greer, and his subsequent statements:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell#Views_on_UFOs

sure makes the UFO debunker’s job hard, so they play all sorts of games of denial, invoke national security, play lawyer, and so on. When I got Brian’s NASA biography published:

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/oleary-bt.html

one of the leading UFO debunkers challenged Brian’s Martian credentials, and enlisted a NASA historian to help in his debunking exercise. I initially found it hard to believe that they would do that. The astronauts did not have a problem with Brian’s Martian credentials, and they would have known. Heck, all the debunkers had to do was get Brian’s autobiography from 1970 to see his account of his astronaut interview. That was when I asked Brian for more meat for his Martian credentials, and he gave me his Alan Shepard and Wernher von Braun anecdotes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#mars

to head off the debunkers if they were going to begin a campaign with NASA, but the debunker acted like he had thoroughly debunked Brian’s Martian credentials. I had already encountered the dishonesty of the “skeptics” too many times already:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

but that debunker’s performance really made me wonder about their intelligence, and I don’t mean intellect. When people are heavily indoctrinated into their paradigms, they can literally go brain dead when encountering information that counters their indoctrination, and they violate the most elementary logic while attacking the information that falls outside of their paradigm, or threatens it, and they can be some of the "smartest" people you ever met. I saw it many times during my FE journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive

As I have stated, wanting to know the truth is far more important than any mental horsepower that a person can lay claim to. Nobody is more blind than those who refuse to see.

My relative who was a CIA contract agent sure was not going to go public with his spook activities:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

but once in a great while, somebody from “middle management” speaks out, like John Perkins did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#neocolonialist

and you can see the USA’s State Department and Peace Corps (a neocolonial tool) trying to debunk his credentials in about the stupidest way that I can think of, by showing that he published some mystical books. To me, that just provides evidence that Perkins eventually woke up.

http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/467/2079016.html

I became aware of Greer’s Disclosure Project somewhere around the mid-1990s, I think, but I did not pay too much attention until I heard about those Congressional hearings, and when they all came down with bizarre forms of cancer soon after the hearings, I was not surprised. Some of the witnesses who testified also went public with what they testified to, national security laws be damned, and what I found highly interesting is that the exotic technologies that they described, including FE and antigravity, I had already heard about from my close friend, who was invited to a show of those technologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

When data points like that line up, one’s doubts quickly evaporate.

Again, I knew of Sparky Sweet from a close associate who visited his lab:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

but was not told who Sparky was or where he lived, and the next year, when I met Brian, he told me who that old guy was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

and it was not until several years later that I found out that Sparky lived just down the road from us as we were being wiped out in Ventura. Again, those converging lines of evidence tend to remove any doubts about the truth of such matters. Some of the converging lines of evidence, coming from rock solid witnesses, some of which you have seen me name, and others who wish to remain anonymous, I cannot really talk about publicly, which is the nature of the beast, unfortunately, but I will summarize what I think is very likely the case in the Black Science world.

1. Many who took the money (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden ) went to work on the Black Science side of the fence. That is where Fringe Scientists become Black Scientists, although for many of them, it was not exactly an exercise in free will, but more like being made an offer that they could not refuse.

2. Many other Black Scientists came from the White Science side of the fence, usually via the military or military contractors, such as the aerospace firms.

3. Those are the people who play with the toys that we don’t get to benefit from. Antigravity, free energy, exotic materials that would blow you away, and other marvels exist in the Black Science world. But Godzilla calls the shots in that world, but with heavy compartmentalization, indoctrination and various tricks, some technological, very few on the inside ever get any inkling of the big picture.

4. A great deal of that Golden Hoard came about from reverse-engineering captured ET craft, but on the ET scale, our Hoard is really full of primitive copies, and that is because humanity currently has a highly rudimentary understanding of the nature of consciousness (http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html ). When enough hearts and minds awaken, making FE and heaven on Earth happen will be easy. Awakening is the hard part, and Godzilla does his best to keep humanity asleep and easily manipulated, and his bag of tricks is impressive.

5. Many contingency plans have been made at the Godzilla level, and they can be stomach-turning. There are plans to depopulate the planet of several billion “useless eaters” and turning the relatively few survivors (less than a billion) into a pliant slave population. Many survival enclaves have been built underground and off-world for Godzilla and his minions, and one plan is to terraform Mars if Earth’s surface becomes uninhabitable. A person in my circles was invited to go help them, but that is a technical project that is even beyond Godzilla’s abilities at this time, but his arrogant insanity knows no bounds.

6. Fortunately, cooler heads have prevailed regarding some of the evil plans, and I believe that the people who gave my friend the exotic technology show are from the “White Hat” faction that is disenchanted with Godzilla’s plans, and Greer has stated that most of the global cabal favors FE and the related technologies coming forward, because they won’t want to try to live on Mars. :) From what I have seen, I am not a big doubter of what Greer reports on that score ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal )

7. The elected and retail governments of Earth are way down the food chain from Godzilla and his minions. They control the governments and get them to do their bidding (the sitting American president is totally out of the loop http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents ), but because self-interest is the order of the day in a world of scarcity, Godzilla does not need to micromanage the situation and the governments, the corporations, and the inventors and their allies end up doing most of Godzilla’s work for him, and the sleeping masses own the lion’s share of the responsibility for this situation, not the Black Hats, the White Hats, the Lone Rangers like Dennis and Adam, etc. Again, for the herd’s size, Godzilla really does not have to work all that hard to keep the upper hand over humanity. We are our own worst enemies.

8. In the end, Godzilla sits on his throne because virtually everybody is asleep. When people like Brian O wake up, then their rides become hard ones, and sometimes they pine for the good old days when they were asleep (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sherry ). My awakening was a brutal one that I would not recommend to anybody, but it made me who I am today, and I would rather be awake and getting by rather than be rich and asleep, which is an opportunity that I have passed up a few times in my life.

9. While the Black Science world is all too real, be very wary of people who claim to come from that world or know people who do. What I have disclosed here is not entirely infallible, but is actually a conservative version of the information that I have been exposed to. Most of what have been exposed to was not from Black Scientists telling me or anybody close to me anything, but just getting glimpses of what is behind the curtain as my fellow travelers and I had our preposterous journeys.

I may write more later, but that about wraps up what I have to say about Black Science. Again, my upcoming essay will be firmly grounded in White Science, because the biggest problem is that the masses are scientifically illiterate, and they are easily led astray when snooping into Fringe Science, which is filled with the deluded, the incompetent, the mistaken, charlatans and others with invalid things to say, and those who have succumbed to Godzilla’s derailing tactics. There are many casualties in this field, and I don’t want to see any more, or be responsible for any more, but many people just have to go find out the hard way. My primary motivation on that score is to help as many people possible achieve productive understandings without learning the hard way or disappearing down the rabbit holes, and many beckon.

I am going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th June 2012, 15:30
Hi:

This will be a little White Science post. I mentioned previously that around 2000, I decided that I wanted to resume my White Science studies one day and study the dating issue in particular. It was partly inspired by watching the controversies of catastrophism. I was introduced to it via the Velikovsky controversy, but it expanded beyond it. There were challenges to the dating techniques being used by orthodox science. White Science has developed many dating methods:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_methodology_(archaeology)

some of recent vintage, and as techniques and technology have kept improving, the methods have been getting more accurate, at least in theory. I was also nearly being besieged by creationist “scientists” who challenged the orthodox perspective. The dating issue was key to many of the alternative scenarios that I was encountering. A lot of it was around Velikovsky’s proposed chronology for Biblical events. The challenges generally focused around sample contamination, phenomena that the dating methods were not controlling for, which would skew the results or make them invalid, groupthink among White Scientists, being trapped by their paradigm, and related issues. On the outer fringes of that kind of theorizing was a Russian mathematician named Anatoly Fomenko, who proposed radically different dates for human history:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko)

Those theories might seem crazed, but Fomenko was only one of many claimants who challenged the orthodox dating findings. I was not going to get to the bottom of it unless I resumed my math and White Science studies, and I put it on my list of things to do one day. Then the 9/11 terror attacks happened, I resumed my career, and I have a mission on the lamb-choir front, so it was looking like I would never get to resume my studies. But fortune smiled on me as I plunked along on my studies in my “spare” time, particularly the past several years of reading that has been preparing me for my upcoming essay. I have been reading a lot on geophysics, evolution, and anthropology in the past several years.

As I mentioned earlier, White Science has been becoming multi-disciplinary during my lifetime. It is really a fairly recent phenomenon, and long overdue. As Bucky Fuller said, keeping scientists overspecialized was a way to keep them blind to the big picture:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

White Science will have to overcome its materialism in order to really begin to see the big picture, but the increasing multi-disciplinary trend has made for big breakthroughs in researching the past of Earth and humanity. As the tools sharpen and more findings have been correlated with each other, and new methods of dating keep being dreamed up, such as amino acid dating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid_dating

White Scientists have been coming up with startling new findings with regularity. They are still subjecting the moon rocks to new tests, which throw the theories into disarray:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/moon-formation-collision/

One area of great interest for me has been how the new findings of research on the climate’s past have been getting correlated with archeological and historical research. Brian Fagan’s generalist works lay out what that multidisciplinary effort has been yielding lately, from the end of the latest glacial interval (The Long Summer) to the Medieval Warming Period (The Great Warming), to The Little Ice Age (a book of the same title), the impact of El Niños and La Niñas over history (Floods, Famines and Emperors), and what how California Indians lived for thousands of years before the Europeans arrived (Before California). I scouted for an archeological dig in the hills behind Ventura when I was about twelve, and little did I know of the peoples that lived in the area for many millennia before the Europeans arrived.

Not only do the many dating methods proliferate and become more sophisticated all the time, but with the increasing precision of tools such as mass spectrometers, scientists are able to discern changes in isotopic ratios, such as carbon-12/carbon-13 ratios. Life processes favor lighter molecules, because it takes less energy to use them, so scientists can test ancient sedimentary layers and what appear to be fossils, and the isotopic ratios can confirm it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-13

Oxygen-16 and oxygen-18 ratios have been used in studying sedimentary layers. Because oxygen-16 is lighter than oxygen-18, it takes less of the sun’s energy to evaporate oxygen-16, so rainfall is enriched in oxygen-16. In today’s world, that relatively lighter rain makes its way back to the oceans through the hydrological cycle, so the top ocean layers, where most sea life lives, does not get oxygen-18-enriched. But during an ice age, the ocean will become oxygen-18-enriched, as the ice sheets become oxygen-16 enriched, and the tiny sea life that makes its shells from calcium carbonate will be oxygen-18 enriched, so the sedimentary layers will have those enrichment signatures, and that is one of the ways that scientists have been able to put dates on the ice intervals over the past 2.5 million years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen-18

But those lines of evidence also correlate with many other pieces of evidence, forming a robust and interleaving set of data (O-18 is also a marker for other phenonenon, such as sea temperatures). And they keep finding more evidence, keep coming up with more dating methods, and the picture keeps becoming clearer. As I have been studying the various lines of evidence over the years, those challenges coming from the fringes have looked less and less tenable, and I can understand why those fringe people are called crackpots (I just received an email last night from the catastrophic controversy and the Electric Universe theorists, and the email almost led with the word “cranks,” and I keep telling my pals that those labels are not helpful, although I understand their sentiments).

The fossil record, correlated with radiometric dating, isotopic analysis, and other techniques, has painted quite an amazing picture of the past of life on Earth and Earth’s changing face. There used to be virtually no oxygen in the atmosphere or oceans. None of us would have survived five minutes on Earth’s surface a few billion years ago, but that thing called life happened, and eventually bacteria “learned” to capture sunlight and the primary waste product of their energy-production, the deadly oxygen, “polluted” the planet to the levels we have today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#photosynthesis

Life itself terraformed the planet, making it friendlier to life. That photosynthesis also saved Earth’s oceans by creating the oxygen that created the ozone layer. Otherwise, Earth would have already lost its oceans because the hydrogen would have escaped to space (see Nick Lane’s Oxygen, pp. 25-26).

I have to get ready for work, but let me state that the interplay of astronomical events and processes, geophysical processes and life is a science that is still in its infancy, but its findings are fascinating. It also has very real impacts on White Science’s understanding of the human journey, which is perhaps the primary focus of my upcoming essay. For instance, many mysteries of archeology are being slowly solved via those interdisciplinary findings. The abandonment of Angkor Wat, and the disappearance of the Classic Mayans and Anasazi have now been correlated with epic droughts during the Medieval Warm Period. While Europe had its High Middle Ages, with many of its great cities built during that period (about 950-1250 AD):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

as people also heavily deforested Europe, many other places in the world suffered epic droughts that lasted for generations, and those droughts are now thought to have collapsed those ancient civilizations, not the New Agey notions that the Mayans and Anasazi “ascended.” I was not there, so maybe some did ascend, but epic droughts wiped out the ability of those civilizations to sustain themselves, and their declines were not pretty, from what anthropologists have been able to piece together, with increased environmental degradation from deforestation, warfare, and even cannibalism marking the end of the Anasazi.

Even the “missing links” in human evolution are slowly disappearing, as more is discovered. Did ETs help out? I consider it very possible, but White Science can explain the broad contours of the human trajectory quite satisfactorily, IMO, and I doubt that Black Science has much motive or opportunity to play games in that field. Black Science is more concerned with advanced technology and keeping it away from the rest of us, so humanity does not free itself from Godzilla’s clutches. While there are plenty of apologists for the Black Science secrecy and suppression (“Humanity is not ready for it!”), who put them in charge, to make those decisions for humanity?

I am going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Hughe
12th June 2012, 23:45
How did the ancient builders either humans or ETs know that the sites of great pyramids over globe would avoid any earthquake or natural disaster?

Mainstream scientists admit "When modern civilization collapses, just one thousand years of natural restoration would erase any signs of artificial constructs or objects on Earth." Everything in nature changes. I don't buy into carbon dating or period of atomic decay of element anymore. It's absurd. Earth is not in perfect controlled environment. It travels through ever changing space extremely fast speed. Invisible, undetectable energy fields interact with Earth. Mainstream scientists will resist accepting this truth till the end. People need to wake up, exercising their power of reasoning, intuitions.

The effort of finding the super theory of everything by itself shows how stupid humans are. I wish those brilliant scientists spend their energy and time to solve energy crisis and destruction on Earth. Billions of people barely survive day by day.

Wade Frazier
13th June 2012, 05:26
Hi Hughe:

I’ll agree that White Science is not focusing on the most important issues. I know it all too well, with my FE adventures, and what people like Brian endured while playing the Paul Revere of FE:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere

White Science is currently pretty worthless at solving the big problems, and that is just how Godzilla likes it. But, every significant group that I have encountered on Earth is useless, too, on the FE front, so I don’t pick on White Science as much. The FE journey is a walk through the desert, and a desert that is also watched carefully by Godzilla, and virtually nobody is helping. That is the problem. When White Scientists snoop into it, their denial and naiveté doom their efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

among other foibles. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which is why no group has the right stuff at this time.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

But other than the enticements of Nobel Prizes and comfy berths in academia, studying the Burgess Shale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Shale

does not appeal to greed, does not upset any of the rackets, but is pursued largely out of a need to know. So, the White Scientists in that field are going to be far less compromised than in other fields. Materialism is a trap, and most White Scientists are trapped in it, but almost everybody is trapped in their worldview, or if you will, their paradigm:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

But I don’t look as askance at dating methods as you do.

But, what are you referring to with the pyramids, that they aren’t sitting on fault lines that have ruptured and torn them apart? Their design was intended to last a long time, and the shape of a pyramid would guarantee that it would not collapse. Many Egyptian pyramids are so eroded it is hard to tell that they ever were pyramids. I don’t think that mystical or ET influences are needed to explain the pyramids, although I have seen evidence of “pyramid power” and don’t scoff that the ancients may have known something about energy that is currently lost (ley lines, etc.). But when I hear about the pyramids being energy generators, I ask what the energy was used for. There is nothing obvious in the archeological record about that, and if we want to invoke some stargate or other theory, well, is there any good evidence to back it up? That evidence has always been severely lacking, IMO. Places like Egypt, Mexico City and Java have pyramids and all have had big earthquakes (being in very geologically active areas), so I am not sure what your point is on the catastrophe score.

As for radioactivity depending on Earth’s speed through space and fields it may be passing through, I have heard those theories, but they are theories without much to back them up, as far as I have seen. When they can measure the current speed of the tectonic plate movements, and then can radioactively date the islands in the Emperor Seamount chain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_Hawaiian_volcanoes

and line up the data to give the picture, a picture that is spectacularly laid out on the ocean floor, it gives pretty good evidence of fairly stable processes, both geologically and atomically. The fossil layers correlate with the radioactive dating and other evidence from evolutionary research, such as how long species survive before going extinct, and so on. In those areas the fringe theorists have a pretty huge burden of proof, to not only invalidate many lines of evidence that are pretty darn robust that independently reinforce each other, but to adduce robust data that supports their theory. On that score, I have seen many pretenders, but few contenders.

The technical problems of FE were solved by Black Science long ago. The problems of FE are not technical. It is that not enough people care enough. The problem is literally that simple.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th June 2012, 15:37
Hi:

This morning will be a little digression into my current reading and I will put that White, Fringe and Black Science stuff in the context of my efforts.

I have been dipping back into my American Holocaust studies. I am most of the way through Ross Hassig’s Mexico and the Spanish Conquest, am about through with David Stannard’s essay in Is the Holocaust Unique?, and have been reading David Henige’s attack on the “High Counters” in his Numbers from Nowhere. This complements my study of the latest prominent attempt to put a number on the 1491 population of the New World, by Massimo Live Bacci in his Conquest. I also read Charles Mann’s 1491 a few years ago, along with related works.

That entire area of study is a brutal one. As I read Hassig’s account of the Aztec conquest (this is my fourth book devoted to the subject, after Cortes and Diaz del Castillo’s first-person accounts and Hugh Thomas’s tome), sometimes I sit back in horror as I consider what the Spanish invasion meant to the New World’s natives. It was worse than Genghis Khan’s Mongol Hordes. The Mongol invasions were devastating, and their brutal sack of cities remains one of history’s most evil deeds, but the Spanish invasion depopulated an entire hemisphere in less than a century.

The academic debate over the pre-contact population is almost exclusively conducted by white men (Russell Thornton and a few others aside), usually descendants of the conquerors who live in this hemisphere secured with that epic carnage. There is something very disquieting about debates about vanished people by the descendants of the vanishers. A work like Henige’s is not nearly so objective as it aspires to be. Livi Bacci’s work is respected, but it is already dated in ways. Researchers are finding that far more natives lived in the Amazon, for instance, than had been previously supposed. Many thousands of square miles of the Amazon basin were terraformed by the natives and the usually thin tropical soils were turned into super-soils where the natives terraformed them. Also, it increasingly looks like the “fortunate” situation in the Amazon, where a startlingly high proportion of plants produced human-digestible food is anything but “natural,” but the result of thousands of years of husbandry by the Indians.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#amazon

Because the Amazon basin does not have much stone, there was no way to build monumental architecture, and the Amazon is one of those regions where it looked like the Indians avoided the standard anthropological dynamic where dense populations invariably led to stratified populations, with the elites sitting on top. That does not necessarily mean that the Amazonian natives were super-enlightened, but that the environment and means of production were not amenable to empire-building. It looks like the political-economic organization of the Amazon was on the order of associated towns, but nobody went about trying to conquer their neighbors and build empires, or at least nobody succeeded, or if anybody did, there is not any evidence of it yet. When Portugal got into the game in Brazil, inspired by the Spanish conquests of the Aztecs and Incas, they initially sought gold-plated cities in the Amazon. After all the invasions came up empty or the invaders simply disappeared, then the Portuguese tried turning Brazil into a big plantation, mainly for raising sugar, which quickly decimated the Indian populations to the point where the Portuguese began importing captured Africans, in one of history’s most evil enterprises:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#portugal

So, the pre-Columbian Amazonian natives have been off the radar of anthropological investigation until relatively recently, with the aboriginal natives dismissed as a relatively few natives scattered through the rainforest. That view is radically-changing, as investigations are revealing thousands of years of civilization in the Amazon, although something that the Spanish, Portuguese and other invaders were not impressed with, as they could not find gold-plated, stratified civilizations to plunder.

Studying that material can really take a lot out of me, and some days I wish that I still drank, kind of.

What does all of that have to do with FE and healing the planet? Plenty, in my book. As I read about the rape and pillage of the New World's civilizations by the Spanish Conquistadors, it is always an energy story. Economic scarcity drove those Spaniards across the ocean, looking for plunder and a life of ease living off of somebody else’s labor. Their entire enterprise was primarily economic, which is always rooted in energy, especially when you develop an eye for it. Gold and silver to the Spaniards were just the means of exchange, and people would be willing to part with the fruit of their labors for it in Europe. That was the entire point of the Spanish enterprise, and an entire hemisphere paid the price of Spanish greed. In the first century of conquest, as the population of the Western Hemisphere declined by about 90%, about 90% of the “value” exported to Europe from the New World was in the form of gold and silver. It is hard to find a more evil enterprise in world history than that one. The depopulation of the Western Hemisphere was a mere side effect of a century-long orgy of greed.

Abolish scarcity, and those enterprises would quickly find nobody willing to participate. Today’s American-inflicted genocides in Iraq and Afghanistan are all about economics, and virtually every invading soldier is a mercenary, although the American underclass has developed ideologies that turn their murderous deeds into a noble undertaking, such are the delusions that people can nurture in order to preserve their self-image.

Economic abundance will not come to humanity without energy abundance. Energy runs the world and always has, and the industrialized world is only made possible by the exploitation of fossil fuels, which are quickly being used up. FE would permanently solve the energy issue for humanity, and horizons barely glimpsed today would begin to become feasible. That is really about the entire point of my work. How will the human animal flower if scarcity was abolished? My upcoming essay will go deep on that issue, far more deeply than my writings have so far hinted at:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

I am not saying that it will necessarily turn out how I envision that it can, but without FE, such directions are not really possible. There is no Golden Age of the human past that has ever been discovered by anthropologists. Energy and economic scarcity has defined the entire human journey, but increasing energy availability has created some interesting trends in human welfare, which I will explore more deeply in my upcoming essay.

How to get to FE is the hard part, and that is largely because almost nobody really understands the role of energy in our world and how that could change if energy was no longer a practical constraint. I have been living with that idea since 1986, and I know that I can barely imagine what that could look like.

Godzilla, however, has a pretty good idea of what it can mean, which is why the lid is kept so tightly on FE and related technologies. If the FE genie got out of the bottle, it would be game over for Godzilla’s game of global domination.

White Science can’t get there from here. It is great at identifying problems, but can be useless in coming up with solutions, especially for the important stuff, because it is captive to political-economic interests in the important stuff, like energy and medicine:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

White Scientists are heavily indoctrinated into the “laws of physics,” and if you can get them while they are young and drill it into them, they will never want to learn any differently:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

but it is like that in all ideological arenas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded

so I really do not pick on White Science much, but I am keenly aware of its limitations. On the subject of FE, almost all White Scientists, if they are even aware of the issue, are heavily-entrenched Level 3s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

They can sure seem smart, but have completely missed the boat, and in ways that can be incredible to witness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive

Fringe Scientists do not have a prayer on the FE front, either. Most Fringe Scientists are not really scientists at all, but play at it, and many White Scientists who begin to play the Fringe Science game rarely come up with anything of substance. And for those few who do, if they stumble into FE, antigravity and potentially-disruptive technologies, they are quickly dealt with. Godzilla’s bag of tricks to deal with them is vast,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

and violence is a last resort, but resorted to often enough. You can’t sneak past Godzilla, and it is the height of naïveté and foolishness to think that you can. I will never encourage anybody to play that game, and will actively discourage newbies from trying. They simply have no idea what they are getting into. For more than 99% of them, their efforts will fail, usually to life-wrecking effect, long before Godzilla even needs to roll out of bed.

Black Scientists get to play with the toys that the rest of us do not get to benefit from. I am aware of some of how that world operates, and what it does to those who play that game. Only a fool or somebody who sells their soul plays that game. The so-called White Hat faction is arguably an exception, but I am pretty skeptical of them. I am not calling them fake good guys. I know that they exist,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

and it is possible that they have protected me at times, but like Godzilla, they operate in the shadows and certainly cannot be relied on to save the day. If about 0.0001% of humanity woke up to abundance and FE in a sentient and productive manner, making FE and heaven on Earth happen would not only become feasible, but it might even be easy.

I am trying a way that I never saw or heard of before, which is that lamb-chorus. It will be heart-centered, it aspires to high sentience, and I have no idea if I will ever be able to help amass such a mythical choir, but I am going to try, and we will see how it goes. If I fail, maybe somebody like Ilie one day will succeed.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
14th June 2012, 18:39
You won't fail Wade. Your work and your intentions are already successful, beyond what may be visible to you.
Wishing strength, courage and joy to you and to yours. Always.

WP

Fred Steeves
14th June 2012, 19:47
You know how everyone has their little "pet peeves list"? For instance, one of mine is the guy who speeds past you on open road, just to immediately make you jam on your breaks as they zip over into your lane for their right hand turn.

Well I've got a new one in the last couple of years, it's growing, and I'm wondering if Wade, or anyone else shares this one. It's power lines, and they're everywhere you look. Look at the frenzied pace of technology in cars, planes, computers, etc. Even talking just the white science aspect. Then look at the power lines in your neighborhood, and it's a century old technology frozen in time. The more it thuddingly sinks in to me the ramifications of the complete suppression of FE technology, the more this unending tangle of relics that surrounds us all almost seems to take on a taunting nature.

Cheers,
Fred

Wade Frazier
15th June 2012, 04:43
Hi:

Briefly, before I go to bed, thanks, AWP, for the thoughts. Most of my fellow travelers have had to deal with feelings of failure. Not that we did not try, but it did not make a dent, not the kind of dent we were aiming for. So it is, when you are trying to change the world in an unprecedented way. My midlife crisis centered on the notion that my life’s work was an exercise in futility:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

and impatience is my Achilles heel, so it has been a challenge, to put it mildly, to walk my path, but we all have our challenges, otherwise we would not be here. We all have had to accept that we likely will see no dent in our lifetimes, and might get a front row seat as humanity goes straight down the toilet and takes most of the ecosphere with it. I think there will be a happy ending to this transition, and I may not live to see it, but we will see. All of us have to answer to our conscience, and the life review after we are done gives us all our sternest judge: ourselves:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#afterlife

Hi Fred. Gee, that was quite a straight line that you served up, about Steeves’ Peeves. :) Yes, it can really be galling to look around and know what is completely unnecessary, other than feathering Godzilla’s nest, and yes, he often gets a big, s**t-eating grin when you notice. Scott gave up his car because he was so disgusted with the situation (4 minutes into this clip):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIAoMJKpPP8&feature=relmfu

I live close to a friend’s son who is a Microsoft wiz, who also gave up his car. Some do it.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
15th June 2012, 04:51
You know how everyone has their little "pet peeves list"? For instance, one of mine is the guy who speeds past you on open road, just to immediately make you jam on your breaks as they zip over into your lane for their right hand turn.

Well I've got a new one in the last couple of years, it's growing, and I'm wondering if Wade, or anyone else shares this one. It's power lines, and they're everywhere you look. Look at the frenzied pace of technology in cars, planes, computers, etc. Even talking just the white science aspect. Then look at the power lines in your neighborhood, and it's a century old technology frozen in time. The more it thuddingly sinks in to me the ramifications of the complete suppression of FE technology, the more this unending tangle of relics that surrounds us all almost seems to take on a taunting nature.

Cheers,
Fred

Yes, Fred, I've noticed. I have often thought of them as a web in the air, tying us down.

Wade Frazier
15th June 2012, 14:53
Hi:

Just this morning, I read the results of another study on the extinction of the mammoth:

http://www.livescience.com/20894-woolly-mammoths-extinction.html

As an amateur, but one who has studied the extinction of many human groups as Europe expanded, the prominence of the wooly mammoth extinction debate seems to have deep political overtones. They keep saying that climate change primarily did them in. While I am sure that the populations ebbed and flowed with the glacial intervals, the ice sheets have been advancing and retreating for more than two million years, at about 100,000 year intervals, like clockwork. Elephants had been in Europe and central Asia for pretty much the entire ice age until this last glacier interval:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammuthus_meridionalis

and as the climate got colder during the glacial intervals, furrier elephants evolved:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppe_mammoth

Elephant species thrived on every continent except Australia. When the land bridge formed between North and South America just before this ice age began:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_Interchange

Elephants easily migrated to South America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuvieronius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stegomastodon

and thrived for millions of years, until humans arrived, and then they quickly went extinct. Wherever humans have appeared in the past 50,000 years, as their increasing tool-making sophistication and social organization made them Earth’s most fearsome predator, all the large animals quickly went extinct. They would have been the most logical source of food for the invading humans, and one of the first energy resource windfall opportunities that humans plundered until it was all gone. Humans have done it in the historical era, too, as they “discovered” islands previously uninhabited, such as the Polynesian Expansion, Madagascar, and other islands:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#australia

Elephants are one of Earth’s smartest species and highly adaptable, as evidence by their thriving in all places on the planet that they could get to. Their trunks may rank second to hands in an animal’s ability to manipulate its environment. The obsession with the mammoth extinction is a big misdirection, IMO. It is kind of like wanting to study the chimpanzee. Some species become kind of “rock star” species where an inordinate level attention gets focused, and so it is with the mammoth. The South American elephant extinctions, and the fact that northern elephants had survived interglacial periods just fine in the past, really puts a dent in the climate change dynamic hypothesis for extinction. Sure, the populations likely ebbed and flowed with the changing environment, as happens with all species over time, but the northern elephants going extinct have the same prime factor that all the other megafauna did: the arrival of humans.

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th June 2012, 14:51
Hi:

I am going to be fairly quiet in the coming days, as I travel, but I wanted to get back onto what I earlier threatened, and give previews of my upcoming essay. Life is sustained by energy-driven matter flows. Chemical reactions power life processes. Life, however, “figured out” how to make reactions happen by using less energy, and that is how enzymes were born. If you took a jumble of atoms and molecules and wanted them to react, on their own, at random, the reactions would be very unlikely. What enzymes do is essentially play matchmaker between atoms and molecules, to make them react, by physically bringing them into contact in the right way. Some key reactions in life processes happen a billion times faster with an enzyme encouraging the reaction. In inorganic chemistry, the equivalent is called a catalyst.

Enzymes can look like Rube Goldberg devices. Look at this depiction of a human enzyme:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyoxalase_I

Enzymes make life processes more energy efficient. Indeed, without enzymes, life might not exist, and certainly not complex life. Life on Earth has come to be dominated by the most energy-intensive animals ever: mammals and birds. A mammal typically burns about thirty times the energy per hour that a reptile does. That high energy usage is thought to give mammals and birds high stamina, so they became high-performance animals.

Also, that high energy consumption in humans allows us to have high-powered brains. And like computers with increasingly-powerful CPUs, the energy issue is critical. The human brain uses about 20% of the body’s energy, which is vastly disproportionate to the brain’s size. The human brain is the most turbocharged organ in the body, with a voracious energy appetite. Nick Lane’s Life Ascending explores that territory.

Pound for pound, a eukaryotic cell (the complex ones that all multi-cellular life forms have) burns energy 100,000 times faster than the sun produces it (see Oliver Morton’s Eating the Sun, p. 91). Life is sustained by the acquisition, preservation and consumption of energy. Almost all aspects of life forms can be explained in terms of the energy game. If energy is not the actual goal in a structure or behavior, it is at least the means. There may not be an exception to that dynamic.

Of course, humans discovered how to manipulate their environment, beginning with the control of fire, which is an energy-intensive activity that far exceeded that of any other life form in Earth’s history, and it is thought today that cooking may have actually led to the appearance of humans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

Cooking was a way to predigest food, and not only reduce the digestive energy that it took for the human organism to obtain its energy, but humanity’s increasingly energy efficient methods provided the time needed to use our brains and hands in new ways. A chimpanzee, for instance, spends nearly all of its waking hours finding food and eating it. The average American child spends less than an hour a day in that pursuit. That increasing energy efficiency led to civilization and the complex lives that we lead today. That will all come to an end if we run out of energy, and in the industrialized world, that primarily means the energy provided by burning hydrocarbons, and we are burning though what life forms and geological processes took hundreds of millions of years to create, and we are doing it about a million times as fast as it was created. The brick wall looms directly ahead, and unless we find a substitute for fossil fuels, and fast, we will burn out in spectacular fashion, like an exploding supernova.

Until we solve the energy issue, the rest won’t matter. After several years of playing the Paul Revere of free energy, Brian wondered aloud if humans were really a sentience species:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere

when I heard him say that, I sadly understood:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

The energy game really is the only one that matters on Earth right now. All the rest is just a sideshow. The more people who can raise their sentience and begin to understand how the world really works and what is important, the better chance that we have of turning the corner. Part of me wishes that I was not living in this era, but in this one, where we finally became fully sentient:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

but I have this suspicion that how I perform in this lifetime is going to determine whether I “make the grade” and get to live in a world like that in the future. If the mystical material is to be believed, I asked for it. :)

I want at least one lifetime in a reality like that before my soul decides that it learned enough from the Earth Game, and I am looking for others who want to help realities like that manifest. We are not going to blindly stumble into a world like that, but it will take the best that we can muster, that heart-centered sentience that I write about so often.

I have a busy few days ahead of me, so you may not hear from me again until late next week.

Best,

Wade

sandy
17th June 2012, 00:30
Safe, trouble free and happy travels Wade. :)

Ilie Pandia
17th June 2012, 06:26
Awesome post Wade. I was not good friends with organic chemistry but your post has renewed my interest in it. An enzyme making a reaction happen a billion times faster is no small feat!!!

Speaking of enzymes, I'd really like to know how did blind matter with no consciousness "figured that out"...

Wade Frazier
17th June 2012, 12:35
Hi:

OK, I have a few minutes before I jump on a plane. Thanks Sandy for the wishes.

Hi Ilie:

Yes, I often put “figured out” and similar terms in quotes. Even when I read scientists describe those dynamics, they say stuff like “learned.” Enlightened scientists, IMO, will say that the story of evolution is one of process and history, not intent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#materialist

and a “blind watchmaker” theorist like Dawkins is disliked in his field. I was a little surprised to repeatedly read how disliked he is by his fellow scientists, and not trusted (I most recently read it in Richard Francis's Why Men Won't Ask for Directions). If you read good White Science works, what comes through clearly is that White Science really is certain of little, with plenty of mystery and a poor understanding of many processes. For instance, two of the biggest mysteries in evolutionary theory are how life came into being and how new species appear. Nobody really knows, although there are theories that are far from universally accepted. Speciation has never been observed, nor has the appearance of life from inanimate chemicals. I don’t buy much, if any, of the Creationist Science stuff that is out there, as it is usually trying to make the Bible right, but Creation is a big place, and White Science is playing in a pretty small puddle at this time.

Again, do a remote viewing in a Silva class:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown

and you will never buy the materialist worldview. You will know differently, and nobody can ever take your knowledge from you. Watch a UFO light up on request:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

and you will never take Phil Klass and his debunker pals seriously again. There really is no substitute for experience in these realms. I am not into faith myself. The nature of consciousness is the great mystery that White Science has not even begun to explore. That is why I say that while their materialistic theories chalk consciousness up to an "emergent" byproduct of chemistry, White Science will be playing a small game. Black Science certainly does not deny consciousness, but they often play evil games with it, which is the fastest ticket to hell that I know of: using paranormal abilities to hurt people.

OK, time to go catch a plane.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
17th June 2012, 12:51
Again, do a remote viewing in a Silva class:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown

and you will never buy the materialist worldview. You will know differently, and nobody can ever take your knowledge from you. Watch a UFO light up on request:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

and you will never take Phil Klass and his debunker pals seriously again. There really is no substitute for experience in these realms. I am not into faith myself. The nature of consciousness is the great mystery that White Science has not even begun to explore. That is why I say that while their materialistic theories chalk consciousness up to an "emergent" byproduct of chemistry, White Science will be playing a small game. Black Science certainly does not deny consciousness, but they often play evil games with it, which is the fastest ticket to hell that I know of: using paranormal abilities to hurt people.

I know exactly what you mean Wade. Once I directly experienced consciousness outside of my body for the first time, there wasn't a person on Earth who could convince me that it's simply not possible. They may as well try and convince me that there is not really a nose in the middle of my face.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

As for playing evil games with consciousness being the fastest ticket to hell, I have three comments to add to that: Yes, yes, and yes.

Safe journeys my friend,
Fred

sandy
18th June 2012, 03:39
Hey Fred,

There really isn't a nose in the middle of your face as it is part of your illusion of self. :whoo:

Fred Steeves
18th June 2012, 22:35
Oh god Sandy, now you've gone and reminded me of the old gag parents play on their kids. Remember this? I've got your nose?

TFodYakbA90

Sorry Wade, I just couldn't help myself...Besides, Sandy made me do it...

Wade Frazier
20th June 2012, 15:13
Hi:

I got back late last night from that biggest of big cities, New York. My hotel was right at Times Square and Broadway. It is a big tourist area. I only left my hotel once to get something to eat. The World Trade Center towers are largely rebuilt, dominating the Manhattan skyline again. As I took it in, and the long drives in an out of Manhattan through the rabbit warren streets, a saying of mine kept coming to mind: “And they call it civilization.” In a world based on FE and abundance, places like NYC will cease to exist. I look forward to the day that all of those skyscrapers are cycled into the element bank and Manhattan Island is turned back into the forest that it used to be before the Europeans invaded. I kept hearing people call NYC a great city. Just how is it great? I see it as similar to a field slave moving up to being a house slave, and relishing how much better life is. Humanity’s greatest urban achievements are nothing at all, when compared to the world we could have, the world that Godzilla and his minions systematically prevent from manifesting. And almost nobody is the wiser. Visiting places like Manhattan really drive that home for me.

On a positive note, on the plane and in my hotel room I read a book that I grabbed off of my shelf before I jumped on the plane, titled, On Methuselah’s Trail – Living Fossils and the Great Extinctions by Peter Ward. He is a local boy, but that is not why I read his work – this is the fourth book that I have now read that he has authored or co-authored – but he is one of the better scientists who can write for the lay audience. He is about the world’s most prominent mass-extinction researcher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ward_(paleontologist)

I also made significant progress on my trip on what I planned was my last book before I really got cracking on my essay. It is John Lunine’s Earth – Evolution of a Habitable World. It is a college textbook that I saw referenced repeatedly during my researches on geophysics and early life on Earth. I am fired up to get that book finished in the near future and get cracking on that essay. The framework that all scientists like Ward and Lunine work with, when looking into the evolution of Earth or the life on it, is that is all about energy driven matter flows. Life “learned” how to manipulate those energy-driven flows for its benefit. That is the centerpiece of all of scientific investigations that I have seen, and I found that scientists, especially the generalists, can rather easily see through the financial economy as a game of smoke and mirrors played by the elite. Life on Earth and the real economy runs on energy, not money.

I almost got strip-searched getting on the plane to come home. You practically have to strip already, with shoes, belts, watches, rings, and everything else removed (I also take off my hearing aids), and pockets emptied. You have to put your toiletries in a clear bag, as everything goes through the X-ray machines. No water allowed, but you have to buy it in the terminal. Since I just produced my ID to even get into line to get searched, I had my ID and plane ticket in my pocket. I took that out and held it over my head as I went through the X-ray machine. So, I have been stripped as far as I can without having a body cavity search, but apparently the X-ray machine caught some bulge in one of my pants pockets. Last year, after the X-Ray machine, one of the blue-gloved TSA people actually reached down my pants. Yesterday, it was not as bad, but I had to pull my pocket inside-out, as the guy kept feeling it for something. My pants pocket was one of those with a little pocket in the pocket, to maybe hold a key. It looks like that pocket in a pocket set off their X-ray machine. He and I spent a minute, with my pants pocket turned inside-out, kneading it, him running his hands down my leg, looking for that bulge in my pocket, that he finally decided must have been a piece of lint at the bottom of my pocket. That was just a normal event in getting on a plane these days. I never liked travel much, but I have absolutely hated it since 9/11. My nation is crazy.

Time to get ready to go racing with the rats. The next six weeks of my job will be crazy, so I will likely be fairly quiet, but I have a few posts to make that were running through my head as I traveled, and they are coming in the next week or so.

Best,

Wade

Carmody
20th June 2012, 15:28
You know how everyone has their little "pet peeves list"? For instance, one of mine is the guy who speeds past you on open road, just to immediately make you jam on your breaks as they zip over into your lane for their right hand turn.

Well I've got a new one in the last couple of years, it's growing, and I'm wondering if Wade, or anyone else shares this one. It's power lines, and they're everywhere you look. Look at the frenzied pace of technology in cars, planes, computers, etc. Even talking just the white science aspect. Then look at the power lines in your neighborhood, and it's a century old technology frozen in time. The more it thuddingly sinks in to me the ramifications of the complete suppression of FE technology, the more this unending tangle of relics that surrounds us all almost seems to take on a taunting nature.

Cheers,
Fred

Like the human body, we build up waste and then release some all at once.

Changes in human flow or in this case...human technology (technological change)... tend to be the same way. Part of our circle of 'doing', one might say.

the big thing here, is to erase the shape of the pyramid structure erected by those who wish for centralized power and their maintenance of it.

Fred Steeves
20th June 2012, 18:51
I almost got strip-searched getting on the plane to come home. You practically have to strip already, with shoes, belts, watches, rings, and everything else removed (I also take off my hearing aids), and pockets emptied. You have to put your toiletries in a clear bag, as everything goes through the X-ray machines. No water allowed, but you have to buy it in the terminal. Since I just produced my ID to even get into line to get searched, I had my ID and plane ticket in my pocket. I took that out and held it over my head as I went through the X-ray machine. So, I have been stripped as far as I can without having a body cavity search, but apparently the X-ray machine caught some bulge in one of my pants pockets. Last year, after the X-Ray machine, one of the blue-gloved TSA people actually reached down my pants. Yesterday, it was not as bad, but I had to pull my pocket inside-out, as they guy kept feeling it for something. My pants pocket was one of those with a little pocket in the pocket, to maybe hold a key. It looks like that pocket in a pocket set off their X-ray machine. He and I spent a minute, with my pants pocket turned inside-out, kneading it, him running his hands down my leg, looking for that bulge in my pocket, that he finally decided must have been a piece of lint at the bottom of my pocket. That was just a normal event in getting on a plane these days. I never liked travel much, but I have absolutely hated it since 9/11. My nation is crazy.


Made you just bursting at the seams to belt out a hardy rendition of "God Bless America" did it Wade?

Welcome home!

Fred

Dennis Leahy
20th June 2012, 20:47
...
I want at least one lifetime in a reality like that before my soul decides that it learned enough from the Earth Game, and I am looking for others who want to help realities like that manifest.

Wade
:~) <----(that smile will not be enough characters for our forum software, so I added this, pointing to it)

Dennis

sandy
21st June 2012, 00:32
Welcome Back Wade,

I can empathize with the rat race days, and how physically sick I was due to the stress of not wanting to be there!! I had no clue how much I would enjoy being away from it all but let me say it is awesome. So hang on my friend as there is great joy coming your way and even though we are still somewhat enslaved when exiting the rat race, the freedom from the work world is much more peaceful and rewarding the one can image. :)

CdnSirian
21st June 2012, 02:45
...
I want at least one lifetime in a reality like that before my soul decides that it learned enough from the Earth Game, and I am looking for others who want to help realities like that manifest.

Wade
:~) <----(that smile will not be enough characters for our forum software, so I added this, pointing to it)

Dennis

And I am brazenly hoping it will be this lifetime, at least to see a glimpse of the beginnings. And with smiles that software may not be able to express!

As for the TSA Wade, thanks for the heads up on those pockets within pockets. Most women's pants don't have them, but obviously it's worth checking.

Wade Frazier
21st June 2012, 04:05
Hi:

Well, this is post 1,000 for me at Avalon. How time flies…

Hi Fred, Yes, where is my flag. :)

Hi Carmody:

Virtually every economic system for all time has been anthro-pyramidal, with the elites skimming the cream. The elites playing their games these days are just the latest players on the scene, but they are toying with destroying the planet rather than giving up their power over humanity, which is admittedly a game that can’t be played much longer. The elites are really not important, and the role they play in our world of scarcity is one that comes naturally. Eliminating scarcity makes the elites obsolete, like the rising living standards of industrialization made chattel slavery obsolete.

So, the game has always been the same one, and the elites can only play it if there is scarcity in the world, so they can get the masses to play along, giving their power away. Eliminate economic scarcity, which is deeply rooted in energy scarcity, and it is game over for the global elites, and they know it. Hence the treatment meted out to people like Dennis, Adam, etc. FE is a lot bigger than trying to break this particular pyramid game, but ending pyramids as viable political-economic structures, which humanity has obviously never seen before, except arguably in the pre-domestication phase, but humans actually set themselves up at the top of nature’s energy pyramid during that phase and for ever after. FE is about ending that exploitation game, with nature and with each other. That game is definitely a new one.

Hi Sandy:

I took several years off to do my site, so I know what it is like to not be racing, and it was nice, even if I was still researching genocides and other fun events. In those days, I had the nice version of “What day of the week is it?” That was a great feeling, when there was no clock to punch. In recent years, I get the bad version of “What day of the week is it?” That one comes from working twenty days straight, hundred-hour weeks, etc.

Hi CdnSirian

Ah, I was not trying to warn travelers on my strip search, just whining. :)

Time to do chores.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
21st June 2012, 11:16
Hi,

Have read today an entry in NewScientist's web edition, hinting at the possibility of White Sciene grasping an idea of focusing light through openings smaller than light's wavelength, so might allow microscopes with unprecedented resolution (Rife's and Naessens’s work immediately came to my mind)
NewScientist: Plasmonic graphene controls rippling electrons (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21955-plasmonic-graphene-controls-rippling-electrons.html?full=true&print=true)

Who in an optical sciences has departed to heavenly realms recently to make room for this blasphemy to take place?


Law of the speed of the scientific progress: one funeral at a time

Wade Frazier
21st June 2012, 12:40
Thanks Robert:

Yes, White Science marches onward, sort of, and if it follows true to form, it will never mention Naessens or Rife:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#steal

So it is, in a world of scarcity.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
21st June 2012, 15:25
Hi:

I am going to make some random posts in the next few days on lines of thought that have been rattling around in my head lately.

My goal, as always, is helping to manifest heaven on Earth. Although manifesting heaven Earth will necessarily avoid the dire fates that await humanity if we do not change our ways, and fast, it is also helpful to explore what those downsides are. Achieving heaven on Earth, while also avoiding hell on Earth, are two sides of the same coin:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#summary

Peter Ward:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ward_(paleontologist)

has made a career out of studying mass extinctions. There have been quite a few during Earth’s history. He has even coined a term that is the flip side of the Gaian Hypothesis, called the Medea Hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_hypothesis

which posits that Earth kills her children. For nearly every mass extinction event studied so far, climate change brought it on. Only the impact that destroyed the dinosaurs is generally accepted as a non-climactic cause, but even then the impact is not what killed off the dinosaurs, but the drastic climate change that came with the impact, which dwarfed the so-called nuclear winter that a nuclear holocaust is theorized to perhaps cause. When the dust settled after that bolide impact of 65 million years ago, the dinosaurs were gone, setting the stage for the Age of Mammals.

Ward’s hypothesis is that microscopic organisms have been largely responsible for those climate changes, exhaling oxygen, methane and hydrogen sulfide. Ward, like nearly all scientists not in the hydrocarbon lobby’s back pocket, states very clearly that the human-induced gases being vented to the atmosphere today, carbon dioxide and methane in particular, are altering Earth’s climate, and we don’t know how it will turn out if we keep going on the path that we are, but it could be catastrophic.

To revisit Allen and Holling’s Discontinuities in Ecosystems and Other Complex Systems, all systems run on energy, and when a system is stretched to its limit, it loses its resilience, and relatively small disruptions can cause system collapse. Humanity’s hydrocarbon-based energy systems are stretched to the max today. I have had some inane discussions lately with people who worship the American state, believe everything that Fox News tells them, deny that we are on the brink, believe that fracking will solve our near-term problems, and that we won’t be running out of energy anytime soon. I don’t want to pick on those people too much, as they are deeply in the thrall of the social managers, abdicating their sentience for the promise of a full belly if they play along. It is just that my friends and family are deep in those delusional states, and most look at me like I am crazy.

What is happening with fracking and exploiting the Canadian Tar Sands is a classic resource depletion scenario that has been enacted many times over human history. The first major one was killing off all of Earth’s big animals, except where they lived alongside evolving humans and learned to fear them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

The next was deforestation and erosion, which made much of the Old World transition from verdant forest to farm to desert. That happened from Morocco to Afghanistan and all along the Mediterranean. When Europeans invaded the rest of the world, they quickly turned places like Mesoamerican valleys and Australia into semi-deserts by rapid deforestation and the introduction of sheep:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#_edn83

The more northern forests had more resilient soils, so the awesome deforestation of Europe and North America has yet to turn those lands into desert, although the trends are obvious. Humanity also did it to the whale:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

and to the Northern Hemisphere’s fur-bearing animals:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#fur

What those depletion scenarios all had in common was human avarice that plundered until the resource was gone. All of those plunderings had their golden age in the early stages, when the acquisition was easy, and much of the plunder was wasted, as the seeming abundance allowed for just picking out the juiciest morsels and letting the rest go to waste. There was always more where that came from, in the cornucopian fantasies of the plunderers. That is not an abundance-based mentality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#exuberance

As the easy meat/wood/soil/whales/fur/etc. became depleted, humans moved on to new, “virgin,” grounds and kept plundering. When the easy plunder was gone, then the humans began to mine previously overlooked, lesser-quality, resources. As humans worked their way through the resource (and all are energy-based), eventually they began to suck at the dregs. Eventually, even the dregs were used up, and what was left were deserts, oceans bereft of whales, an entire hemisphere devoid of fur-bearing animals, and so on.

The rising demand curve of an industrializing humanity is intersecting a declining supply. Conventional oil, the good stuff, has already plateaued, and may have been declining since about 2006. We are likely at Peak Oil, which has been warned about for many years.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#fossil

Peak Oil is an unassailable concept. The only real debate is when it would happen, and it is increasingly looking like it is already here. All the current fracking frenzy, the hoopla over the tar sands and the like is sucking at the dregs. The good stuff has already been plundered. The only good stuff left on Earth of any consequence is around the Persian Gulf, and perhaps central Asia, and it is no accident that the world’s biggest killing machine sits there, on behalf of the Western oil companies. There is enough coal left in the world to power industrial civilization for a few more centuries, but at an awesome environmental cost. The oil is the good stuff, and the end of oil will be in my lifetime at current rates of extraction, without even factoring in the effects of places like China and India industrializing. The brick wall is right ahead.

But, with FE, the looming catastrophe can disappear almost overnight, forever. To actually have sustainable energy, and truly abundant energy, is unprecedented in the human journey. The implications are so radical that almost nobody on Earth today can begin to grasp it, and that blindness is willfully cultivated by Godzilla, but I don’t give him nearly the credit that the conspiracists do. It is really not all that hard to wake up, and I seek those needles in haystacks that already are or are willing to. The fate of humanity may well depend on how many can wake up. And waking up, to me, means, achieving Level 12 awareness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

The earlier levels, like inventor-itis, Young Warrior mentalities, capitalist fantasies and like are all delusional perspectives that need to be shed as soon as possible, for those waking up. Those early awakening levels can be traps for the unwary, and I have watched many of the awakening and FE aspirants disappear into those rabbit holes, never to emerge. We all need to raise our games if we are going to get there.

My upcoming essay is intended for the non-scientist to begin to understand the role that energy plays in our world. It is also intended for scientists, so they can glimpse a larger picture than they are trapped into today. After I publish that essay, I will be aiming to begin a Level 12 discussion. It will be aiming high, and I am shooting for quality over quantity. I have a very specific conversation in mind, with very specific participants. There are plenty of Level 6 to Level 11 conversations out on the Internet today, but I am going to be shooting for something different, so different that I have never heard of anybody trying it, and we will see how it goes.

Running off to work now…

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
21st June 2012, 16:54
Originally posted by Wade: "So, the game has always been the same one, and the elites can only play it if there is scarcity in the world, so they can get the masses to play along, giving their power away".

The elites can play their game based on scarcity as well as on secrecy, they kind of figured that if the general population will find out what their aims are and under what tactics they employ, the cooperation will be less, how shall we say it... enthusiastic :)

Then, which one is easier as a first step, to eliminate scarcity or to expose to as many people as possible that there is a third hand rocking the cradle ..?
and that can also be done while ignoring Godzila :-) talk about them but not to them. and simply move on with our own 'game', and the "rules" to this game will be so much different. I vote for - "Do no harm" as the first rule, there are not going to be too many 'rules', but - "Be your creator self" should be there between the few others :D

You are one of not many people, Wade, (that I now of, and I share your sentiment) that feels like this about New York, about urbanism in general and about the energy of those hugh metropolies cities. which word in English describes the opposit of nourishing?

Buildings, metals, noise, polution are all energy consuming not energy replenishing, that might not be accurate, as it seems as if many people are enjoying city life the same as they enjoy a strong cup of cofee. addiction. but nature has its own different frequency and it can be considered the real aphrodisiac to our bodies and our souls.

I know how you feel about TSA and the body scanner at the airport, It reminds me of Fred's story about his wife's being checked for explosives and my own experience at the interrogation Room in my polite attempt to say no.
(posts #8 and #9 )

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31727-One-World-Airline

I worked for security in Israel and in the London Airports after my military service, its interesting to see how the 'wardens' are also the prisoners, a very creative method coming to think of it, but as so apparent not to our liking. The word needs to be spread, then the word of abundance, and the thoughts about free energy which are translating to - FREE WORLD, and are about to take shape, soon.


~^&*~&~

Limor


P.S

Hope your meeting with Dennis went well

===== edit ====

Just a few thoughts about Wade's prior post, without seeing there's a new one already : )

Wade Frazier
22nd June 2012, 04:34
Hi Limor:

Yes, if people had any idea how they are being used, they would not like it. But what they really don’t like hearing is that each day they pretty much dance to Godzilla’s tune, which is the song of fear. We all have a hand in rocking that cradle.

The easiest first step to FE, at least the way that I am trying to go about it this time, is to understand how the world really works, on a nuts-and-bolts basis. Once enough people can keep their eye on the ball, which is the energy issue above all else, a lot can come from that level of awareness, I think. That is a big part of my strategy. Also, when the central role played by energy is understood, in both the obvious and subtle ways, then the transformative potential of free energy can begin to be understood. That part was really missing in the FE efforts that I was a part of and witnessed. The entire world will change, radically, if FE gets loose. Then people might begin to understand how the human systems work and how power structures keep innovation at bay, and Godzilla really is a small part of that puzzle. Dennis survived unbelievable experiences of theft, suppression and the rest before Godzilla ever showed up:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

FE newbies almost always focus on Godzilla, when he is really a tiny part of the puzzle. Again, if 0.0001% of the global population really woke up and became Level 12s, there would be literally about nothing that Godzilla could do to keep FE under wraps any longer. It really does not take much effort to make FE happen, not when the scale of the impact is understood. You can’t do FE in a garage, but the technical issues are really pretty small and were solved before I was born. So, if enough people woke up, Godzilla becomes meaningless. But while almost everybody is asleep and the Lone Rangers of FE try to scale the ramparts, usually for self-serving reasons, Godzilla has the game well in hand.

The standard newbie approach is to think of ways to take out Godzilla, or sneak past him, or pretend that he really does not exist, and so on. Or that the “good people” will rise up and shrug off their shackles and make FE happen. That kind of thinking is trying to find the easy way out. There is no easy way, and the biggest enemy is us.

I treat Godzilla like I do a thunderstorm (the best part of my NYC trip was flying by thunderstorms over the Great Plains on the way back): I can’t fight it; I can't negotiate with it; I can only avoid high ground when one comes roaring by. The fearful reactions are to obsess on Godzilla or deny that he exists. Both are victim-oriented reactions. The creator-oriented reaction is to acknowledge him and let him be. That is easier said than done, but that is how I approach it, even though Godzilla was certainly behind wrecking my life. He and his minions are forgiven, for my part. So, your “be your creator self” rule is key, which means to be loving, because love is the energy of creation, and creators create by using love. “Do no harm” is another way of saying it.

You and Fred sure have some fun travel stories. :)

My editor had an eight-hour interrogation nightmare in the back of a U.S. airport right after 9/11, and she is a tiny old lady who does not even stand five feet tall. When she began telling me about it, I thought that she was joking at first. It happened right in the good ol’ US of A. At least she did not end up in Gitmo. Right after 9/11, it was a bit undisciplined, where security men would molest women at the checkpoints. It is more professional now, but I am not sure that it is a good thing.

To continue my earlier posts, that issue of plundering resources like there was no tomorrow was not confined to megafauna, fur, trees, and whales, but also people. As Columbus led the rape of the New World, his men preyed on the natives in ways that can be hard to believe, but the depredations were written about by the Spaniards themselves, so there is not much reason to doubt the tales. Natives often became nothing more than dog food in the early days of conquest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#dogs

which is the only era that I know of where humans were regularly used for food. When Columbus saw the steep decline in the native population on a later voyage when he was no longer in charge, he was the first to realize what it meant for Spain’s ambitions. The natives did all the work, and wantonly killing off the native population would cripple Spain’s imperial ambitions. That is exactly what eventually happened. After the Caribbean was scoured of native life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#note

then the Spaniards kept seeking more plunder, and stumbled into the Aztec Empire, which was quickly conquered, and by 1575 the natives of Mesoamerica were so destroyed by Spanish exploitation and disease that the entire economy of Mesoamerica slid into a century of depression, as there were few natives left to do the work. By 1600, Spain was an imperial has-been, with the crown regularly going bankrupt:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#bankrupt

even as all that gold and silver bought with native lives kept flooding in.

The other thing I wanted to mention from recent reading was a contrast that I noticed. In Allen and Holling’s Discontinuities in Ecosystems and Other Complex Systems, they noted that innovation in ecosystems came from the margins of body size. For reasons poorly understood, but likely based on the energy issue, animals have “sweet spot” body sizes. Animals in those sweet spots tend to dominate the ecosystems, and those at the margins eke out their existences. But, that is also where the ecological innovation usually comes from. So, change comes from the fringes, where the risk and reward is high.

Ironically, however, in the study of living fossils such as the coelacanth, they survived for hundreds of millions of years because they found a fringe existence that nobody else could survive in, such as competitors or predators, so creatures such the coelacanth were able to survive in the fringe niches for hundreds of millions of years. In his On Methuselah’s Trail – Living Fossils and the Great Extinctions, Peter Ward presents several examples of living fossils and how they were able to survive where little else really could. So, from the fringes can come change, or an unchanging timelessness. Interesting.

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
22nd June 2012, 13:56
Hi:

As the Godzilla topic rears its head once again, I want to reiterate the very clear distinction between what I am doing and what almost everybody else does. I have called it the contrast between the conspiracists and the structuralists, the right and the left, the conscious and the unconscious. Even though those may seem to be polarities, they are actually two sides of the same coin, and that coin is thinking like a victim:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

We are not going to get out of this mess by thinking like victims, by pointing the finger at others as the source of our problems, by taking out the “bad guys.” The problem is us, and the solution is us. When I say that we have to think like creators, that we have to act from the heart, I am stating the same thing in different ways. The reality is that thinking like a victim is as old as humanity, so it is a very hard habit to break, but learning to overcome our victim-orientation and coming at life as creators I think may be the very reason why we are playing the physical reality game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#tale

The fact, however, is that almost nobody is fit to make that leap today, not on this planet. And a primary reason, maybe the primary reason, is that we live in scarcity and fear. The means exist today to live in abundance and love, but we don’t get any while we are asleep. I have met some incredible people who have sacrificed their lives to try to bring those means within our reach, and theirs have been incredibly hard journeys:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#advent

I carried the spears for two of them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm

and I saw the awesome price that those heroes paid. Brian’s journey shortened his life, and I am amazed that Dennis has lived as long as he has; he should have died many times over by now. After I helped spring Dennis from jail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

I decided that I could not afford to play at his level any more, even as a spear carrier, although I kept carrying some of his spears, even today, and I ended up carrying some of Brian’s.

But I decided that not only were a few FE heroes doomed, but I decided that I did not want FE to happen due to a few heroes saving humanity from itself. If only a tiny fraction of us raised our games and kept our eyes on the ball, which is the energy issue and always has been, then we had a chance, and in a way where nobody needs to risk their lives, where there does not have to be some big showdown with Godzilla and his minions, where they can quietly slink away and look for easier prey, whenever they leave their hells again:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

The stark reality is that the vast majority of humanity is asleep and stumbles through life, trying to not hurt anybody too much, or help anybody much, either. They live in many layers of denial, and they are not going to begin to fathom FE and abundance until FE machines are delivered to their homes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

The closest thing that there has ever been to FE being delivered to their homes is what Dennis tried with his heat pump:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

So, I know that if you talked to John Q. Public and said, “I am going to deliver a free energy machine to your house for free. Would you accept it?” that nobody would refuse it. Getting to that stage is the hard part, however, and our preposterous adventures in that realm were highly educational. Dennis keeps trying to play the Level 10 game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

and I went a few rounds of that with him, and also did it with Brian:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#new

and saw how easy those kinds of efforts were to defeat; they usually collapsed from within before Godzilla had to get very active, but when a provocateur or two was unleashed, and the power structure began applying a little pressure, the efforts quickly unraveled into self-inflicted bloodbaths. I don’t want any part of that anymore.

In a world of scarcity, personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which was the primary lesson from my first stint with Dennis, and a lesson that I resisted every step of the way, until I had it beaten into my head in no uncertain terms:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

That is just where humanity is these days, and I am not asking anybody to attain the level of integrity that somebody like Dennis lived. I have never met or heard of another like him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

and am not looking for heroes.

The argument can be made that humanity should just stew in its self-created juices, that the sleeping masses and Godzilla deserve each other, and that we should all just stand back and watch the fireworks as humanity plunges straight into the maw of a global catastrophe, while Godzilla escapes to his survival enclaves until the dust settles, and openly comes back to play de jure tyrant after the herd has been thinned out by several billion people. Well, I am a human, and I want to live to see something else begin to happen, which I know can happen if 0.0001% of us woke up and began thinking like creators. I think that it can also fan the flame that is seemingly dead in the masses, and we can all begin to think and act like creators, and a world like this becomes possible:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I think that it is possible, but the masses are not going to begin to wake up until the means for creating that world are delivered to them. They need help, and that 0.0001% can provide it, I think. New Agey magical thinking is not going to cut it; the outcome and path to it has to be practical, it has to be grounded in the real world, it has to provide the engine that abundance can manifest through, and only FE can do that.

That is my dream, and we will see how it goes.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
22nd June 2012, 20:11
...Ironically, however, in the study of living fossils such as the coelacanth, they survived for hundreds of millions of years because they found a fringe existence that nobody else could survive in, such as competitors or predators, so creatures such the coelacanth were able to survive in the fringe niches for hundreds of millions of years. In his On Methuselah’s Trail – Living Fossils and the Great Extinctions, Peter Ward presents several examples of living fossils and how they were able to survive where little else really could. So, from the fringes can come change, or an unchanging timelessness. Interesting...

This idea of a 'timelessness' flourishing where competitors fail to survive makes me think not only of our physical survival, but the nourishing and maintaining of our psychic bodies as well; like the way communities of monks and shamans have, for generations, maintained the practices of energy healing, conscious telepathy and other wonders. They've often achieved this by remaining isolated, immersed in conditions of quietness and various modes of abstinence that most people find too hard to bear if they've not been born into and supported by an environment with those elements as its foundation. To touch on what Limor spoke of, nature's subtle frequencies play a great role in nourishing us properly and retuning us to help those gifts flow more naturally. In other words, the masses experience what is described as evolutionary progress, through various phases of industrial smog and noisy destructiveness, whilst minorities live separately in fringe communities, tending the garden of timeless philosophies and abilities that the masses have collectively 'forgotten'. Some might say they have been holding the space for many of us, keeping that psychic flame lit within the collective consciousness. When energy scarcity becomes obsolete, no human animal would have to be left behind because of his inability to adapt to a rough terrain. Every last person would have their place in the fold.

I thought of this thread today as I listened to my mp3 player and heard South African Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa say these words:
"We fell from people who once sailed the seas in rafts of reeds to people who are frightened of their own shadows... We must go back to that time and understand man should fall no more. Man, and woman, should go back to the days of those human beings who raised great pyramids in Egypt, in Yucatan and in Peru... They were human beings who used their god-given talents. We should go back to that, and stop being amazed at shadows."

In post number 1900 Wade, amidst writing of several ancient civilisations, you wrote: "The monumental architecture across the world nearly invariably glorified the elites of those civilizations..." I mention this to assure you that Credo's quote does not make me think of glorifying those civilisations. I have no direct knowledge of their individuals' levels of heart-sentience. (But where cruelty and forced inequality were present they obviously have no place being glorified.) I also consider the intriguing possibility that later influences may have altered or removed key artifacts to convince future generations of a distorted view of history that would suit the elite's descendants and the elitist paradigm through time. (But again I have no direct knowledge of evidence to support this.) I resonated with Credo's quote, in part due to the rich tone of wisdom with which it is delivered (apparent in the audio recording), and because he is describing how great feats were achieved, specifically, by human beings. So we have it within us to disengage the "shadows" of the world that have been filtered into our psyches and reclaim our innate abilities to imagine vast and wonderful creations and build our world accordingly. A world based, as you so often write, on a journey where we are guided by the courage and compassion of our hearts. So may it be, in a world of abundance.

I don't mean to be repetitive or state the obvious, but imagining the tremendous waves of healing that come with learning from and even surpassing our ancestors, the wonder of creating an abundant world that cares for every living creature on and including the planet... well... it sometimes feels worth repeating :) That's my little meditation for the day, engraved (so to speak.)

Wade Frazier
23rd June 2012, 13:51
Hi AWP:

Big issues. I am a hermit who lives and works in a big city. Getting into the wilderness is one of my respites, and I am very fortunate to have it in my backyard. As you and Limor discussed, the energies of the city are not very healthy, and I think that there are several levels of that. It can be something as obvious as negative ions (stand next to a waterfall, which is very easy to do in my neighborhood), or as subtle as watching plants grow. But there are other aspects that are very unhealthy, such as children not knowing where their food comes from. In the USA, because of propaganda from McDonalds:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#mcdonalds

some children literally thought that their Big Macs were grown in The Hamburger Patch:

http://mcdonalds.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hamburger_Patch

As I have mentioned plenty, I have studied the glimpses of this world that Michael Roads achieved:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and know others who have made similar visits, and if we can begin to move in the direction of a civilization like that in my lifetime, it will be Mission Accomplished for me. That civilization was integrated with nature in ways that are incredible when compared to today’s industrialized civilization. A primary point of my upcoming essay will be that virtually every instance of our destructive relationship with nature has been to wrest energy from it. With FE, there will be no more need to do that. We can partner with nature in ways that may seem like a Disney fantasy, but with love guiding our actions, it all becomes feasible. It is our collective lack of love why we do not have FE, not what Godzilla is doing. I see Godzilla just like I see those parasitic gray beings that Roads encountered in his adventures, which were the punchline in the negative future Earth that he visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

Godzilla is really a parasite, not a predator, and he thinks he has to suck the energy of others to live the good life. Godzilla really feels empty inside, and he has my sympathy.

On those ancient civilizations, there is a lot of “golden age” mythology that looks to some distant past when our ancestors had something wonderful that we lost. I am highly wary of those myths anymore, and wonder if there is any fact at all behind them. There have been many New Age myths about the Mayans and Anasazi ascending, advanced technological civilizations that are no more, how all that ancient stonework must have had ET technology behind it, and so on. As the toolset of anthropologists has improved and the efforts of reconstruction have become more multidisciplinary, many of those myths have evaporated. Epic droughts brought an end to the Classic Mayans and the Anasazi, and their declines were not pretty. As anthropologists learned to decipher the Mayan glyphs, the story that came clear was that the Mayans were like all the other ancient civilizations, with elites playing their games, with wars and politics centering around who got the benefit of the agricultural surplus, etc. The Classic Mayan phase ended in a bloodbath, as the city-states warred over shrinking resources. The Anasazi deforested their environment, which contributed to their decline. By the time of the collapse, they were importing logs from as far as fifty miles away, and cannibalism marked their end.

The lessons that our ancient ancestors have to teach us may mostly be cautionary.

Ratting around at the back of my mind were some more posts that related to recent ruminations. They escape me at the moment, but I will see if I can recall any of them, and make a post or two this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Hervé
23rd June 2012, 14:26
[...]

On those ancient civilizations, there is a lot of “golden age” mythology that looks to some distant past when our ancestors had something wonderful that we lost. I am highly wary of those myths anymore, and wonder if there is any fact at all behind them. There have been many New Age myths about the Mayans and Anasazi ascending, advanced technological civilizations that are no more, how all that ancient stonework must have had ET technology behind it, and so on. As the toolset of anthropologists has improved and the efforts of reconstruction have become more multidisciplinary, many of those myths have evaporated. Epic droughts brought an end to the Classic Mayans and the Anasazi, and their declines were not pretty. As anthropologists learned to decipher the Mayan glyphs, the story that came clear was that the Mayans were like all the other ancient civilizations, with elites playing their games, with wars and politics centering around who got the benefit of the agricultural surplus, etc. The Classic Mayan phase ended in a bloodbath, as the city-states warred over shrinking resources. The Anasazi deforested their environment, which contributed to their decline. By the time of the collapse, they were importing logs from as far as fifty miles away, and cannibalism marked their end.

The lessons that our ancient ancestors have to teach us may mostly be cautionary.

[...]
Wade

In corroboration of the above paragraph:

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udpC4P6-Rjo


the full set, in 5 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bab6kDtFTJA&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYUEnwxPVGk&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB-N4Cz8N5o&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miDcdemaTac&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udpC4P6-Rjo&feature=relmfu


Now compare the above to this Dolores Canon interpretation of the same event from the data she collected from patients under "deep hypnosis":

http://the2012scenario.com/2011/05/delores-cannon-the-mayan-calendar-2012-and-the-new-earth/

With no crops growing... the harvest was of the souls... what a way to ascend!

Wade Frazier
23rd June 2012, 15:44
Hi Amzer Zo:

Yes, many New Age yarns have been spun. How many are legit? Many may be, but probably more are just confabulations. Because the mystical stuff is often inherently non-physical, verifying its legitimacy can be devilishly difficult, and all manner of charlatan and the deluded can claim anything they want, without having to subject any of it to verification. In that regard, I am sympathetic to the publicly-stated intent of the “skeptics,” but they are a deeply dishonest bunch:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

That non-material aspect of the mystical stuff is a big reason why I always encourage people to go seek their own experiences, first. Do a remote viewing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown

and doors of reality open that can never be closed. But discernment is always key. Most of the conspiracy theories are barking up the wrong tree. They tend to encourage paranoia, specialness, and other delusions. That does not mean that the structuralists see the accurate picture, either:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

Start playing the disruptive energy technology game, however, and you begin to find out how our world really works. On that note, I knew it was most of them, but I just saw yesterday that the number rattling around in my head of three thousand disruptive energy technology patents being classified came from Tom Valone:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1320/318/Insider:_Close_To_4000_Free_Energy_Patents_Denied.html

and if anybody would know, it is Tom. He replaced me on the NEM board after I quit:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#nem

When you begin to understand how that stuff works, the establishment position quickly falls apart, although dishonest “skeptics” will tell you otherwise.

The entire area is a minefield, and I wrote an essay on its perils some years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
23rd June 2012, 19:43
...On those ancient civilizations, there is a lot of “golden age” mythology that looks to some distant past when our ancestors had something wonderful that we lost. I am highly wary of those myths anymore, and wonder if there is any fact at all behind them. There have been many New Age myths about the Mayans and Anasazi ascending, advanced technological civilizations that are no more, how all that ancient stonework must have had ET technology behind it, and so on...

There does seem to be a slippery slope in romanticising the past. Perhaps it reassures the mind; making the extraordinary abilities/beauty/functionality that are so absent in the current mainstream seem more tangible and graspable; i.e. if it once existed then that 'proves' it can be done, and done by us. Perhaps the idealised ancestor takes on the role in the psyche of a fully self-realised mystic lying dormant in the genetic memory. I can see how that's a powerful archetype - especially when that archetype 'dwelled' within a sympathetic society. Perhaps there are times when that archetype appeals as fuel because we lack the courage or confidence to believe we can imagine and create something entirely new and better than before. Generations of survivalist competition and limitation masquerading as normality may have served to hinder that confidence. But we are, truly, bounteous creators at heart - capable of original solutions and genuine progress. (Your point about the thousands of classified technology patents being a gem of evidence in scientific terms.)

I think you briefly mentioned much earlier in the thread the idea that some mythologised advanced civilisations may have left little trace of their advanced ways because if they existed perhaps they did so in different dimensions to the current physical one. I thought that was interesting. I wondered if it's possible that if groups of heart-sentient advanced humans existed before, the very nature of their non-materialist lifestyle would mean they left little or no physical trace on the earth. Some people who speak of viewing past-lives of a psychically vibrant society and a love-helaled planet may even be recalling an entirely different planet to this one. But I'm not trying to get lost in a realm of conjecture. Certainly for the purposes of a collective and potentially mainstream discussion about the implications of energy and an FE culture, a grounded examination of what science and physical evidence actually has to tell us is key.

Whatever our ancestors did we can surpass them, which is also to honour the best of them; as long, as you say, we are guided by our hearts and not a sugar-coated fantasy of what love is. Thank you for your patience Wade, and your response.

Wade Frazier
23rd June 2012, 20:13
Hi AWP:

I know this much: Creation is a big place, far larger than physical reality. I do not claim to be a highly accomplished psychonaut, at least in this lifetime, but I have had my glimpses, and have known some relative Mozarts in that realm. But there are many pretenders, many who abuse their abilities, and the like. To navigate between magical thinking and the crass materialism of mainstream science is no easy task, and many traps await the unwary.

The archetypes probably speak to aspects of our greater selves (I have done amazing Tarot readings with the Crowley deck, for instance – there is something magic happening there), although there are materialist theories on a lot of that, too (see Wilson’s Consilience, for instance). Yes, if I helped melt Atlantis down, which a source I respect once told me, was it on this planet, in this dimension? Beats me, but when I was told that, my intuitive radar went up, and I think I was female in that existence. I can’t prove that to anybody, even myself. That is the nature of the beast all too often.

I’ll buy that those two future Earths that Road saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

are up ahead for some of us. Nobody at Avalon is going to pick the negative one, and there may be even greater “ascended” realities than that positive one, but I will “settle” for a lifetime there. :)

Some of my ancestors, some of whom I knew, committed terrible crimes, and for my part I forgave them, even when they hurt those close to me. We all get to screw up as the price of admission to this fun planet. :) That apparently is the setup, and I look forward to having a long talk with whoever dreamed up this game. :) The mystical folks will say it was me, but it sure was not the consciousness that is writing this. This consciousness wants to have that conversation.

I have to get back to chores now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
24th June 2012, 19:15
Hi:

I just returned from a little hike with my wife, and have a busy day ahead of me. There have not been any inventor-itis posts to this thread for a while, and that is a good thing. When I made that comment on classified patents:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=510688&viewfull=1#post510688

I noodled around on the Internet, and this phrase at Wikipedia hit me between the eyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act

“The U.S. government has long sought to control the release of new technologies that might threaten the national defense and economic stability of the country.”

The official secrecy act does not mention “economic stability,”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/35/181

But as people like Ralph McGehee discovered the hard way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#secrecy

“national security” is just a handy cover story and is virtually never the real reason why “national security” is invoked. The phrase “economic stability,” at Wikipedia, is really a code word for protecting the rackets from the threat of “disruptive” technologies, and the lion’s share of inventions that have been seized under the “national securities” laws have been disruptive energy technologies, many of which were pursuing free energy.

But the world’s governments, and especially the USA’s, have always taken their marching orders from private interests. In the USA, that goes clear back to George Washington’s land “speculation” in the very lands that the armies that he commanded “secured.” Most of the Founding Fathers were either slave owners, land speculators, or both, with good ol’ Uncle George laying out the blueprint for history’s greatest swindle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

which none of the standard histories and biographies of the greatest of Founding Fathers can seem to find notable enough to mention, including Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_Washington/Archive_4#Native_American_land_treaties

Even though FE scientists and inventors are beginning to wake up to the fact that the capitalist path to FE is doomed:

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/patentoffice.htm

they have a ways to go to see the big picture (but, as is the case in this field, I am sorry to say, some of the scientists and inventors cited in that article I know from first-hand or second-hand experience that they are either dishonest or their motivation should be called into question (one of those quoted is this libeler - http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel) – again, personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, and the FE field is certainly not immune from that dynamic, and in significant ways is more vulnerable to that dynamic than in any other field).

But, going the foolish patent route is actually playing at the low levels. For every disruptive technology patent that was seized using the national securities laws, several more got the quiet buyout.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

I am all-too-familiar with that approach:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

And for every one that gets quietly bought out, several more never get to the point of being a threat that needs the buyout or seizure, but they self-destruct from the foibles of the inventors and their “allies,” and greed and delusions of grandeur are two of the biggest reasons for self-defeat in this field. Those efforts that self-destruct often get a little "help" in imploding by Godzilla's subtle methods:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden

No inventor has a prayer by himself, and when I see FE inventors trying to play Lone Ranger, touting their inventions, I really don’t want to watch. The inventor with the goods willing to give it away is extraordinarily rare (I have never met one), but more important is that there is no group on Earth today that could be entrusted with an FE prototype to take it to the public. All efforts that I have either been a part of, interacted with, or observed, have been plagued with naïveté, dishonesty, etc.

All of those factors are why this is called a conundrum! :)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

There are no easy answers to this conundrum. If 0.0001% of the global population actually woke up to these realities and combined their awareness, it would be easy, but that group does not exist. My efforts can be seen as initial steps in helping to form that worthy group. I don’t know if it will ever get to the stage where it would be worthy of taking a prototype to the finish line, and I actually am leery of playing in that arena.

First, enough people whose hearts are in the right place need to get educated on how this world really works – how energy powers Earth’s geophysical systems, how it powers all ecosystems, how it powers all human societies and all economies, and what the impact of the energy situation has been on the development of civilizations – how they all rode energy on the upward trajectory, and as they ran out of energy, they collapsed. There may not be an exception to that dynamic in world history. But, probably the point of my work goes beyond the obvious aspect of how energy runs the world and always has, but more about how the energy situation has shaped all of our human ideologies,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

institutions, and political/economic/social systems. When enough people can begin to see the big picture on those issues (and it will necessarily be a comprehensive perspective), the potential of abundant, environmentally-harmless energy can begin to be grasped. And that is the point where the few who can even think in those directions begin having a very hard time, because it will eventually dawn on them that the world as they know it will end:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

No event in world history begins to scratch the surface of how radical the changes to the human journey would be with FE becoming a daily reality. A lot of the classified and bought out technologies are also in the areas of anti-gravity and exotic materials, and many technologies that would make virtually every industry on Earth today obsolete. Godzilla’s Golden Hoard is a large one, and probably also includes highly advanced computer technology and life forms that have some extraordinary abilities, and some are likely humanoid.

That is my post for today. My work hurricane begins now, and will likely blow until early August, but I think that in the next month that I can polish off the last books on my list (although the reading never ends, but I have to stop at some point) so that I can begin writing that essay in earnest. I will give periodical previews of it on this thread.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th June 2012, 06:49
Hi:

Quickly, before I go to bed. I was reading this stuff today:

http://news.yahoo.com/bonobo-genome-rewinding-tape-life-121000363.html

http://news.yahoo.com/thinking-study-turns-ape-intellect-143151074.html

http://news.yahoo.com/animal-smarts-dolphins-dogs-know-142349527.html

Some scientists are beginning to wake up a little on the consciousness issue, and are finding out that humans are not as different from other animals as we like to imagine. This is a predominate theme in my writings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

and will be so in my upcoming essay, and it is anecdote time. I have written about my recent dolphin encounter a little:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=114629&highlight=dolphins#post114629

but I’ll do a little more now. I was invited to swim with dolphins by one of Brian O’s space buddies who is also one of the world’s leading researchers on dolphin and whale intelligence. As I wrote in the post above, the dolphin people that I hung out with treated the dolphins as peers. As I was sitting on the beach with my dolphin guide, wondering if the dolphins would show up, I was thinking that I had come a very long way to be there (I was not in North America anymore), and if I did not get my dolphin encounter, that sure was going to be a lot of effort and money for a shutout. Right about then, I began talking with my guide about “Wade’s World” and FE. Because I get excited when talking about that subject matter, and I can also never totally put the trauma of my adventures behind me, and I am going deaf, I can talk very loudly, kind of in a yell. The beach was pretty crowded with tourists, and meeting dolphins had to be done kind of surreptitiously in that environment, as I was about to learn.

The day before, my guide encountered one dolphin, and while he said that it was usually pretty good odds that the dolphins would come, there were no guarantees. He usually guided women with the dolphins. It apparently is not something that many men do. I was talking about Wade’s World so vigorously that my guide asked me to talk more quietly, so as to not blast the tourists. Literally a couple of minutes later, here came a pod of dolphins, leaping out of the water and spinning. They were spinner dolphins. Having no frame of reference, I pointed out at the dolphins, which were about a quarter mile from shore, and my guide told me to not point, as it would get the tourists all excited, and they would rush the dolphins and drive them away, so we quietly got in the water and swam out to them. We had fins and snorkels.

They were jumping like crazy, and one in particular was taking leap after leap. Again, I had no frame of reference, and thought that it was the typical dolphin show. I did not want to crowd the dolphins, and kept my hands clasped in front of me, staying back at a respectful distance. The dolphins were jumping all around us. My guide told me that I could come closer, and then he said, “I don’t know who you are, but I have been doing this for twenty years and have never seen anything like this.” For about fifteen minutes, it was us and the dolphins, as they jumped like crazy. One swam past me at arm’s length, looking into my eyes, and one jumped over my head as I floated there. The tourists then caught on and came swarming out to us, and the dolphins then backed away from all the humans. It was a pod of about thirty dolphins. I could see them swimming all around us and below us, in groups of up to ten. My guide said that they were also highly vocal, making their dolphins squeals, but those were out of my hearing range.

After about an hour, we headed back in. I was not used to swimming that far (and I am getting old :) ), and my leg cramped up as I neared shore. As we sat on the beach, the dolphins kept jumping and jumping. My guide then began opening up and we had a long talk. He had never seen the dolphins jump that enthusiastically before – it was like they were having a party – and he began telling me of some of his dolphin encounters over the years. Highly experienced dolphin people know that dolphins can read our minds, and my guide told me of some spectacular experiences with the dolphins that removed any doubt on that score. In that story linked to above, that researcher who is advocating for human rights for dolphins is something that I hope soon “infects” the scientific world.

My guide filmed a lot of our encounter, and I have it on DVD. It was a day that I will never forget, and I think that dolphins like the idea of FE. :) I think that my Wade’s World rap got them all riled up. On one hand, what an incredible experience, but on the other, it puts more pressure on me to help make FE happen. The dolphins and whales deserve to safely live in clean and vibrant seas on a healed planet, and I believe that nothing can make that happen better than FE can, and I think that they were letting me know that they agreed.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th June 2012, 13:57
Hi:

Quickly, before I got to work, here are some Yull Brown anecdotes. When I picked him up from the airport for Dennis’s legendary Philadelphia show in 1996, I had to go to the airport three times over two days, because Yull was paranoid. The first flight that he was supposed to be on, he did not get on, because he saw some grungy kids get on the plane with him, and thought that they were out to get him. His paranoia was evident with other episodes, and in the end he really hurt Dennis’s efforts. He made many unreasonable demands of Dennis, and Dennis treated him better than anybody in the USA did before, including politicians. Yull did not know who his friends were. In the end, I probably should be grateful that Yull irrationally and greedily kept blowing apart the deals that Dennis was trying to put together, because we were being set up in the big sting operation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

and I might be sitting in prison if Yull had not kept acting so crazily and dishonorably. When he was flying high with Dennis, he told Dennis many stories about his past, and two bear repeating.

Yull was Bulgarian, and a Buddhist monk. I don’t know the reasons why, but Yull ended up working for the Nazis, running one of the Greek islands. Bulgaria was one of the few Nazi-occupied nations that saved most of its Jews from the Holocaust:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#bulgaria

When the war was over, those who worked for the Nazis had a rough ride, and Yull ended up in a gulag in Siberia. His stories about gulag life were the typical ones, where the prisoners slept huddled together so that would not freeze to death, but prisoners died of exposure regularly. The Soviets regularly tortured the inmates, and one was a standing torture. They built a box that was like a coffin turned on its end. A person in the box could not sit down or lie down, but had to stand. When a person is forced to stand for days, their body fluids will settle in their legs and feet. The body cannot overcome gravity for days; people have to get horizontal when they rest. Yull pissed off the commander of his gulag, and was given the standing torture. Before they put Yull in the box, the commander asked what was the longest time that a prisoner had survived the standing torture, and was told three days. The commander then said to give Yull a week. Yull should not have survived the treatment, but he did. However, when his week in the box was up, Yull’s legs had swollen to the point where they filled the box and they had to dismantle the box to get him out. Yull’s legs gave him trouble for the rest of his life.

After surviving seven years in the gulag, Yull was “rehabilitated” and released back to Bulgaria. I don’t know if it was because he was a Nazi collaborator or not, but when Yull went back to Bulgaria, his first thought was to escape to the West, and he swam a river that separated Bulgaria from Turkey. As he crawled out of the water on the Turkish side, he was immediately arrested by the Turks and then spent five years in Turkish prisons. Yull said that the Turkish prisons were worse than the Soviet gulags. Midnight Express is not very fictional on that score:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Express_(film)

After twelve years in incarceration, Yull was finally released. Again, I do not know all of the background, but Yull got help from the West in resettling. Yull wanted to live in the USA, but he was not a prized enough “catch” for the West, so the best that they could give him was Australia, so that is where his career began as the inventor of Brown’s Gas, although a guy named Rhodes:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Water_%28Rhodes%29

discovered the gas first. That article listed above tells the story of Yull and Dennis in a way that leaves out most of the story, and in a way that makes Dennis look like the bad guy, which is far from the truth, but it is typical for how people write about Dennis. Dennis treated Yull like a king and paid him like one. Yull had no cause to complain, and he misled Dennis in significant areas, and in the end, Yull did not act with high integrity, which is unfortunately all-too-common with inventors. Dennis hung his hat on Yull in 1996, and it ended up crippling Dennis’s effort when Yull screwed him.

Brown’s Gas, however, is very real stuff, and its transmutational effects are real, and I testified at DOE hearings about it with Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

Even though Congressman Berkeley Bedell was in his camp:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkley_Bedell

Yull could not get residency status in the USA, and never was able to make headway in the USA with Brown’s Gas, at least before Dennis got involved. I have a bunch of Yull anecdotes to tell, but I only have time for one more before I go to work. While the West largely shut out Brown’s Gas, China did not. China built a city for Yull, with 2,000 Chinese scientists working for Yull. I believe that that Brown’s Gas city still exists. Yull did not want to live in China, however. But when he was in China, Yull was a rock star, and he was feted at a state dinner one day, with Yull as the guest of honor.

During the festivities, a monkey was brought out, and it played with the guests and Yull. Yull politely played along, but then they brought out some kind of collar in front of Yull’s seat and put the monkey’s head in it and they took the top off of the monkey’s skull, exposing the monkey’s brain. I think that they don’t kill the monkey before taking the top of its skull off, as brains are best served fresh. They never told Yull what was going to happen, and monkey brain was a coveted delicacy in China. Yull was obviously horrified, but I think that he was “forced” to eat the monkey brain as the honored guest, and probably feigned delight as he ate. That probably had something to do with Yull not wanting to live in China. :)

Time to go to work. More Yull anecdotes are coming.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
25th June 2012, 14:32
Wade, any chance you can upload your dolphin encounter so we can see?

Cheers Mate,
Fred

Wade Frazier
26th June 2012, 04:52
Well, this is post 2,000. Crazed obsession, is all I have to say. :)

Hi:

Fred, that file is too big and it has stuff on it of other people that should not be made public, but I can put up some screen caps of the dolphins and me. That one where you see the dolphin in the air was not the one where one jumped over my head. There was a lot of activity that my guide did not catch on camera. One interesting thing was that my guide brought leaves and gave some to me to give to the dolphins. I initially thought that they were some kind of snack for the dolphins, but they are toys. The dolphins would catch them on their flippers and tails, and tow them around. That shot at this link:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#dolphins

is when somebody tried a dollar bill, and that greedy dolphin snagged it! Look at that greedy smirk! :)

OK, a few more Yull anecdotes. The establishment ignores Tesla, and if he is mentioned, it is the alternating current story, which is plenty big enough by itself, but his FE and other fringe stuff is avoided like the plague. Something similar has happened with Brown’s Gas. Those who continue doing Brown’s Gas almost universally ignore its transmutational aspects and focus on the welding applications. Yull was more into the transmutational aspects of Brown’s Gas than any other aspect. The big event at the Philly show was Yull doing the transmutation demonstration. Dennis was still on parole (an illegal parole, but that was par for the course for Dennis, with the authorities making it up as they go) when the Philly show was staged. Dennis originally asked the NRC for permission to put on the demo, and they gave the OK. I handled the samples that Yull was going to use, and they were pretty small, a round “coin” that was less than a quarter-inch across. The samples were of cobalt, americium, polonium, and one other radioactive sample of an element that I cannot recall at the moment (maybe strontium). I have a very funny story about that, but I can’t tell it publicly these days. Let’s just say that Yull was ready to do the demo. Then, a week or two before the Philly show, the NRC changed its mind and required a phone-book-sized application in order to get permission. And then we heard from the inside that the feds were going to be at the Philly show, ready to arrest Dennis and Yull if they tried to do the demo. Both of them had no desire to go back behind bars, so they didn’t do it, which began to take the wind out of their sails. I have a tape of Yull doing the demo. That experiment has been performed more than a hundred times, and several times by national governments.

Berkeley Bedell badgered the DOE so much that they sent some scientists to where Yull had set up shop, in Southern California, from its San Francisco office. In a classic bureaucratic response, the scientists, with their Geiger counters in hand as Yull performed the experiment, tried to hide behind counters when the moment came for the reaction. When the successful demo was finished (the radioactivity disappeared), the DOE guys immediately went to the LA County health department and tried to get Yull shut down for performing dangerous experiments. Then they wrote a report that invented four cockamamie excuses for why the experiment did not work, and then turned their backs on it as fast as possible. It took minimal investigation to determine that the reasons given by the DOE were bogus, but that did not matter:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_edn47

Right after the Philly show, we took Yull to go see AL Gore (AKA Mr. Environment) at the White House. I read the letter that we got back from Gore. He did not deny that the transmutational effects were real, but he said that transmuting radioactive material that way was dangerous, and he backpedaled as fast as he could.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

Dennis is nothing if not persistent, and he and I spoke at DOE hearings a few months later, to promote the Brown’s Gas solution to the nuclear waste problem, and the man who ran the hearings gave us some sobering advice:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

But when I hung with Yull before the Philly show, I heard funny radioactivity stories from him. One was that he once put some radioactive metal in a jar of water for years. I seem to recall that the metal was uranium. After sitting there for years in that jar, Yull opened the jar and drank the water. Yull said that he then went to a TV store and when he waved his hand in front of the TV screens, the pictures distorted. He was a walking Fukushima. He said that the body would quickly eliminate the radioactivity, but he died of cancer soon after. After Yull screwed Dennis, he moved back to Australia, again choosing anywhere but China, and I heard that there was a problem as Australian customs, where the crates that Yull was shipping to Australia were radioactive. I never heard how that turned out.

One of my pals heard one hell of story about exploding the first hydrogen bomb, and how a ship was sucked up into the mushroom cloud and covered up by the military:

http://hwarmstrong.com/fairchild-30-years-in-worldwide-church-2.htm

It beats me if the story is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. It is well known that the yield was severely underestimated in the Bikini test:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo

What is also well known is that many of those Pacific islands are too radioactive to live on today, and Yull said that he was once approached by some guys who wanted to go live on one of those hot islands, and wanted Yull’s nuclear advice/assistance. Yull told them that they would die if they tried to live on that island. They did not heed Yull, went anyway, and soon died of radiation poisoning.

Radioactivity is no joke. The catastrophe in Japan is far worse than the corporations/governments/media will disclose. One buddy is moving to Australia, to find safe ground in case Fukushima really goes bad:

http://enenews.com/teacher-in-march-2012-interview-people-working-in-the-fukushima-plant-keep-saying-to-us-it-could-go-any-minute-kind-of-thing-video-30-min

http://enenews.com/tokyo-writer-over-1000000-japanese-living-in-areas-with-high-daily-radiation-exposure-previous-cesium-limit-in-rice-was-just-0-1-bqkg-now-1000-times-higher

http://enenews.com/people-in-tokyo-the-black-substance-is-here-its-on-the-roof-on-the-asphalt-on-concrete%e2%80%a6-everywhere-on-all-surfaces-videos

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-06-25/tokyo-residents-dont-touch-black-or-blue-dirt

What a mess, and so unnecessary.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade