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Wade Frazier
26th June 2012, 14:58
Hi:

It can be a small world in this stuff. Christopher Bird wrote the book on Naessens:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

and was planning on writing a biography on Yull, but he died before he could write it. However, he wrote articles about Yull, and before I met Yull, I did my homework by reading Bird’s articles:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_edn47

and a pile of other documentation on Brown and Brown’s Gas before I met Yull. Yull and I talked about Bird as I was driving him back from the airport, and Yull said that Bird was a “good man.” I wish that Yull was a better man. Yull’s antics with Dennis were some of the later events in the evolution of my perspective. Inventors do not have any more integrity than the general population, or if they do, it is so small that it can’t be measured. And inventors are rolling the dice, hoping to hit it big with their inventions, so greed ends up rearing its head, especially when you are talking about disruptive energy technology or the means to solve the nuclear waste problem. Mr. Mentor was the closest thing to an altruistic inventor that I ever met:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and that misled me for many years about inventors. Creativity does not confer integrity. I believed in the inventor route to FE twenty-five years ago, but I don’t anymore. I got educated in the real world. I am also a bookworm, so not only did I get educated on Brown’s Gas before I met Yull, but I also boned up before I spoke at the DOE hearings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

and when I began researching in earnest, as I researched and wrote what became my site today, I encountered nuclear cheerleaders:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#nukes

and went deep on nuclear energy, accidents, and the like. With my chemistry background, it was a truly horrifying experience to research how they process nuclear fuel. It is a witch’s brew of the most toxic chemistry that I have heard of, with the strongest acids known to humankind used to manipulate the nuclear ingredients. And that is just the chemical part. When you begin snooping into the effects of ionizing radiation, it really turns into a nightmare. Ionizing radiation is electromagnetic radiation at very short wavelengths, known as X-rays and gamma rays.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation

The shorter the wavelength of the light, the more energy in it. What X-rays and gamma rays do is strip electrons away from their atoms. Any molecule that has an electron stripped from it will become ionized. It will then try to steal an electron from something else, to be made whole again. Free radicals do the same thing, and the oxidative stress from free radicals may be the primary reason why organisms age. Inhaling a puff of cigarette smoke, for instance, introduces many billions of free radicals into the lung. That is why smokers get lung cancer; the free radical damage that comes from the smoke. Dead food, alcohol, and other substances induce oxidative stress. The very word “intoxication,” means that you are being poisoned. Intoxicants generally create their intoxicating effect by interrupting enzyme activity. As I stated in an earlier post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=506945&viewfull=1#post506945

enzymes are catalysts for biological reactions, and without them, life would not exist. A most potent enzyme disruptor is the fluoride ion. In biology experiments, fluoride is used to poison enzymes. Because fluorine holds its electrons more tightly than any other element, it is always looking to bind with something to get an electron to complete is shell, and fluorine is never found floating around in nature, and forms the smallest negative ions known to science. So, looking into the history of compulsory fluoridation, which is in my water supply, is to tour the dark side of the force:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm

It is evil on top of evil, and discovering that the fluorine ion particularly damages the brain was delightful:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold

That fluorine essay was first written in 1998, and I would like to give it a makeover, but we will see when I get the luxury of time. I am currently reading another Peter Ward book, and a fascinating one that I will summarize at Avalon when I finish it. It has to do with oxygen and evolution. In his brief chemistry narrative, he notes that fluorine can create more powerful reactions than oxygen can, but fluorine makes organic molecules explode. It can really be disorienting to read biologists say how deadly fluorine is to biology, and then realize that it is being added to my water supply as “medicine.”

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th June 2012, 05:00
Hi:

I don’t want to go too far afield on the fluoride issue, but it is somewhat germane to my upcoming essay. As I stated recently, enzymes can be very ornate looking:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=506945&viewfull=1#post506945

Although the ADA would have you think otherwise, the evidence is unequivocal that fluorine ions damage enzymes:

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question23.html

and the mechanics of the damage are known:

http://www.greens.org/s-r/36/36-02.html

Hydrogen bonds are not as strong as covalent bonds, where atoms share electrons. Hydrogen bonds are where the positively charged hydrogen atom in a compound (the other atom in the covalent bond “hogs” the electron, such as in water) is attracted to the negatively charged atom in a neighboring molecule (such as the oxygen atom in an adjacent water molecule). Enzymes rely quite a bit on hydrogen bonds for how those complex proteins keep their shape. The enzymatic action is not hard to understand when you can imagine that molecule presented in that GIF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLO1_Homo_sapiens_small_fast.gif

The enzyme’s shape is what helps set the stage for the molecules to link up with them and have their reactions, because their electron shells were brought into position to react with each other. In the popular science, it can be presented as a lock and key arrangement. The enzyme is the key:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzyme#.22Lock_and_key.22_model

that unlocks the electrons to interact, and a chemical reaction takes place, one that is vital to running the living organism. When a fluorine ion appears, it has a higher affinity to a hydrogen atom that has a hydrogen bond, and it disrupts the hydrogen bond, with the hydrogen atom now bonding with the fluorine ion instead of the neighboring molecule in the enzyme. The enzyme now gets its shape altered, bent if you will, as the fluorine atom has “parasited” itself onto the hydrogen atom, disrupting the hydrogen bond that the hydrogen atom formerly had with a neighboring atom in the enzyme. A bent enzyme will no longer serve its purpose. It is like trying to put a bent key into a lock. That is how the fluorine ion damages enzymes, called “poisoning” them. And because the fluorine ion is the smallest negatively-charged ion known to science, it can get into nooks and crannies of enzymes that other molecules, atoms, and ions cannot.

I will probably update my fluorine essay to give some more detail on how it poisons enzymes, but it will be awhile. My energy essay comes first, before anything else, unless I get an event like Brian O dying.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th June 2012, 13:44
Hi:

I am working way too many hours right now, but briefly…

Over the years, whether it was looking into the effects of low-level nuclear radiation, fluoride, smoking, industrial chemicals, processed food, microwave radiation of cell phones or power line effects, they all produce low-level, long-term exposures, and they are all damaging to human biology. In all of those instances, the long-term exposure to those substances and phenomena induces stress, usually oxidative stress, which is what primarily ages us. Because low-level stress can be subtle, in all of those areas it can be a numbers game, and in all of those areas, there are scientists on the corporate and government payrolls whose jobs consist of making those dynamics appear harmless. Some of the worst offenders are caricatures of scientists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#stare

Acute doses and acute stresses are spectacular and easy to diagnose. The long-term, chronic exposures, and the long-term chronic conditions that come from them, are more subtle and vulnerable to statistical gamesmanship. Far too often, the data regarding exposure and damage is classified by the government, such as has been done with fluoride and nuclear radiation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#harold

Two-thirds of Americans die of chronic conditions, which are mainly artery disease, cancer and diabetes. They are all caused by chronic, long-term exposures to abusive conditions (and being history's fattest humans is a huge part of the problem). I have yet to update my medical racket essay for the information, but one of the co-authors of the most cited research on the causes of cancer had a conflict of interest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Doll#Controversy

His study showed that lifestyle choices - smoking, diet, and alcohol consumption, mostly - were the primary causes of cancer, and I don’t doubt that those are the lion’s share of the cancer cases, but his study also took his corporate polluter patrons off the hook. Unfortunately, that kind of prostitution by revered scientists is all too common, especially in the medical sciences, which is why physical scientists sometimes say that medical science is not a science at all, but a pseudoscience that is designed to serve its patrons, not the public good. There is a great deal of truth to that. Once in a while, a Nobel Laureate will tell the truth about what is happening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pauling

But while the public sleeps and is easily herded by the social managers, with the bread and circus distractions that are thrown their way, this situation will continue, as horrifying as it is. FE can pop the paradigm, but, as you all know well, my thrust is that only when FE is integrated into a comprehensive perspective will enough of us be able to roll that boulder, because will all be pushing the same direction, and not getting spun up in tangents that fragment the effort and can be highly counterproductive. We are our own worst enemies, and that is the primary reason why we do not have FE today, not what the “bad guys” are doing. But a person needs to begin to think like a creator to grok that, and take responsibility. In today’s world, that is almost never seen, which is the root of the problem. If enough of us woke up, busting the paradigm would be easy, but waking up is the hard part, and it begins in the heart.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
29th June 2012, 13:16
Hi:

I just wanted to take a moment to thank the author of the feast, Bill, and people like Ilie and Paul. Avalon would not exist without their efforts. Yesterday, my wife was reading some of this thread, to see what her husband is up to, with all that writing in the wee hours. She was impressed with the forum, and remarked how different the experience has been from when I would try this at other forums, such as ATS:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll1

or New Agey forums.

We will see what kind of dent we can make.

Best,

Wade

ulli
29th June 2012, 13:52
Hi:

I just wanted to take a moment to thank the author of the feast, Bill, and people like Ilie and Paul. Avalon would not exist without their efforts. Yesterday, my wife was reading some of this thread, to see what her husband is up to, with all that writing in the wee hours. She was impressed with the forum, and remarked how different the experience has been from when I would try this at other forums, such as ATS:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll1

or New Agey forums.

We will see what kind of dent we can make.

Best,

Wade

Not "dent", Wade.
Even the word impact doesn't begin to describe what you are doing here.
More like galactic CMEs causing the whole universe to shift.
Whoosh!

Wade Frazier
29th June 2012, 14:51
Hi:

Briefly, before I go to work. Here is a little post on what I have been learning in my geophysics, evolution, and anthropology studies over the years. I have summarized some of the highlights before:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

But life on Earth has always been an energy game above all else. The scientists have that part right, even though they miss the boat on the issue of consciousness, which is why they virtually all end up as Level 3s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

We all get some kind of indoctrination, and at this juncture in history, the indoctrination has always been scarcity-based:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

which blinds the adherents to reality. Just like Americans think that the media tells them the truth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

White scientists think that they are learning all about the secrets of the universe. Black scientists must laugh at them:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=496281&highlight=black+science#post496281

The beginnings of the universe and the beginnings of life on Earth are shrouded in mystery, with White Science trying to replace Genesis with its Big Bang and other wild tales. Evolutionists are trying to explain the beginnings of life. The prevailing theory today is that life came into being just once, and has essentially been an uncontrolled chemical reaction ever since, which will continue until Earth can no longer supply the proper environment. Life is a fragile commodity. As I stated earlier about enzymes:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=512641&viewfull=1#post512641

processes that rely on hydrogen bonding (plants and trees rely on it to move water upward in their bodies) can get damaged relatively easily. Life on Earth is soft stuff, and the environments that it can survive in are pretty specific. That is why life as we know it does not appear to exist in this solar system other than on Earth. We may find microbes on other solar system bodies, but complex life (as we know it) probably does not exist anywhere else in our solar system, and it takes light a few years to travel to the nearest star system. I can see why White Scientists, the enlightened ones at least, are highly concerned about what humans are doing to the biosphere. Just as I have read several books by the anthropologist generalist Brian Fagan, I am becoming a Peter Ward fan in my old age. I am in the middle of reading his Out of Thin Air, and just bought his The Medea Hypothesis and Under a Green Sky. Ward is the rare scientist who is not only a leading scientist in his field, but one who also writes well for the lay public. He is a popularizer in its best sense.

In his Under a Green Sky, he opens with a quote from climatologist Wally Broecker, which reads:

“The climate is like a wild beast, and we are poking it with sticks.”

I’ll have more to say about Ward’s Out of Thin Air when I finish it, but in general, his hypothesis, and he posits many testable hypotheses in his book, is that oxygen levels over Earth’s history may have been the trigger for the big changes in life. Declines in oxygen levels coincided with virtually all of the mass extinctions, and the animals that could adapt to low oxygen levels were the ones that thrived when oxygen levels once again increased.

Ward even posits that the invasion of the continents by plants and animals would not have happened unless Earth had the high oxygen levels that it had back then (a little over 400 million years ago). He also theorizes that land was colonized in two waves: the first around 420 million years ago (the first land animals may have been scorpions), and the second about a hundred million years later, when oxygen levels hit about 30% of the atmosphere, which has never been achieved before or since. That period is when dragonflies had wingspans of nearly three feet, and some shellfish had ten-foot-long shells. Today, it is pretty universally accepted that high oxygen levels created that era of gigantism.

Complex life on Earth would not be possible if it did not learn to harness oxygen reactions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#aerobic

which provide nearly twenty times the energy that anaerobic reactions do. Ward argues that most mass extinctions were due to animals not being able to adapt to lowering oxygen levels, and those that could ended up thriving. I’ll write more on that later, but birds are far more energy efficient than mammals are. They descended from dinosaurs, which developed a lung system that is highly superior to the one that mammals have – birds essentially never exhale, but every breath brings air to their lungs. That is why climbers can die of oxygen starvation on top of Mount Everest, while far above them, a flock of geese flies over. That aerobic advantage is also why birds live so much longer than equivalent-sized mammals do (albatrosses live to perhaps 150 years old). Their respiration systems have far more slack in them than mammals do, because flying is the most energy-demanding activity on the planet.

So, when oxygen levels drop and mass extinctions occur, it is literally because the extinct animals ran out of energy. They could not ingest enough oxygen to achieve the necessary biochemical reactions. They could not burn their fuel quickly enough to supply their needs, and starved.

The collapse of civilizations over the millennia has the same cause: the civilizations ran out of energy. As civilizations grew and became more complex, their energy needs increased. Today, you will hear environmentalists talk about carbon footprints, but they primarily only say “carbon footprint” because we are burning hydrocarbon fuels to get our energy. With FE, the term “carbon footprint” becomes pretty meaningless. It is really an energy footprint. As cities grew, their energy footprint grew. The Roman Empire deforested huge tracts of land and conquered its neighbors, and it its peak, Rome’s food largely came from Africa. It overextended its energy footprint to the point where it collapsed. All collapsed civilizations had the same dynamic of overextending their energy footprints. Sometimes it was related to deforestation and the resultant siltation and aridity of encroaching desertification, like the Mycenaean civilization. Historians generally invoke “internal weakness” for the success of invasions, but those invasions always came after decline, and internal division always had an economic root, which in ancient civilizations always meant food.

Epic droughts brought an end to the Classic Mayans, the Anasazi and Angkor Wat, all around the same time, during the Medieval Warming Period. Droughts meant no food – again, it is an energy dynamic. For complex life forms, the equations are no oxygen = no energy, and no water = no energy, and especially no sunlight = no energy. Humans are animals, although allegedly sentient ones:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

If we run out of hydrocarbon fuel in our industrial age, and if FE is successfully kept from public use, then the collapse will make all previous wars, famines, and pestilences look like warm-ups. That is what I am trying to help avoid with my work. FE can also help manifest Heaven on Earth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

In fact, nothing else really can, as far as I can see. When that future heavenly world that Roads glimpsed is considered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

the technological marvels can be highly impressive, but if you think about it, a prodigious amount of FE is being used. Mile-wide electromagnetic bubbles that a tornado could not dent is not only hard to comprehend from where we sit today, but the amount of energy required is mind-boggling. When everybody in that world over age six has their own personal bubble that they can travel the planet with, the energy needs of something like that is comparable to today’s rockets into space, which is humanity’s most energy-intensive activity. The rainbow expressway that graces the heavenly Earth would also use energy in amounts that are unfathomable today. Make no mistake, they created their heavenly world from their loving hearts, but energy was the author of the feast. And I strongly believe that their loving hearts are what allowed them to tap FE to the extent that they did.

And what does that have to do with today and my work? Everything. Love is the energy of Creation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

and when enough of us can master the lessons of love, FE and Heaven on Earth will be laughably easy to attain.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

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Hi Ulli:

Thanks. On most days, I feel that I am just muddling through. I certainly can’t do this alone.

Thanks for being out there,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
29th June 2012, 22:52
Hi :)

Would you care to participate in a simple "scientific" experiment exposing human "addiction" to energy? It requires just one day off the grid.

Here is an outline of the experiment (v0.1):
Try to turn off your main switch in the fuse box, turn off your water and gas valves. If you leave your apartment avoid any means of transport (elevator, escalator, bus, train, taxi, car etc. i am not sure of bicycles...) or public venues like shopping malls restaurants. You can not eat or drink on that day. Sorry :) Using your muscles to move your body around or to move matter from place to place is OK. Pushing buttons/levers/switches with your muscles does not count as "moving matter from place to place" in this experiment ;) No money should be involved.

Prepare an experiment logbook in advance. And pen :) Carry it with you everywhere on that day. Take notes (time of day, attempted activity, your emotional state, other observations) every time you discover you are unable to complete certain task. Try to not limit yourself in the attempts of your usual daily activities. Emergency situation automatically aborts the experiment of course with accompanying logbook entry. Let us discuss and compare our experiences.

This draft probably needs some refinement. Or v0.2 after test run of v0.1 ;)

If you live in a city (like me) you will probably discover you live in a deadly trap :(

What do you say? Do you think it makes any sense to do it? Do you think it should be synchronous event or everybody decides when to commence it on their own?

Wade, do you feel this invitation and any answers to it should be moved to a separate thread?

Wade Frazier
30th June 2012, 02:18
Hi Robert:

You are taking Heinberg’s suggestion a step further. Heinberg just asked people to take a good look around and think about the role of energy in our lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm#heinberg

Sandy had an experience not long ago, where she was without power or drinkable tap water, and she thought about FE all day long. :)

Yes, it can really drive home the energy issue by doing that. If it turns out to be a big experiment, then yes, having its own thread would make sense, but no need to do that yet. Feel free to kick around the idea here.

Our tools made us. Set us loose naked in the great outdoors, and not many of us would last a week. Civilized life is a vast distance from “primitive” living. The survivalists here in the USA really don’t have a clue. The best that a survivalist could do in the event of a collapse is hold it together for a brief time, and then it is going to be back to the cave.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=430811&viewfull=1#post430811

On that thread that you began, it got kicked about to hilarious effect:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=432073&viewfull=1#post432073

I never laughed more at Avalon than at Zenith’s post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=432120&viewfull=1#post432120

So, go for it, young man.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
30th June 2012, 04:47
I’ll write more on that later, but birds are far more energy efficient than mammals are. They descended from dinosaurs, which developed a lung system that is highly superior to the one that mammals have – birds essentially never exhale, but every breath brings air to their lungs. That is why climbers can die of oxygen starvation on top of Mount Everest, while far above them, a flock of geese flies over. That aerobic advantage is also why birds live so much longer than equivalent-sized mammals do (albatrosses live to perhaps 150 years old). Their respiration systems have far more slack in them than mammals do, because flying is the most energy-demanding activity on the planet

Hi Wade,

Do you have any links for the "birds do not exhale" stuff?

When I was a kid I used to chase chickens around and when I finally caught one I recall it breathing quite heavily in my hands with inhale and exhale... Now this was quite a long time ago and I did not pay attention to it, but it sure seemed like they exhaled.

From the biology class I do recall something about birds having a super efficient breathing system, required for flight.

I guess I'll have to look into it, but if you have some links to share, that would be nice :)

Ilie Pandia
30th June 2012, 04:52
Turns out the birds do exhale :P

Visit this link and click on the Animation tab: http://bcs.whfreeman.com/thelifewire/content/chp48/4802001.html

But the air flow through the lungs is unidirectional. This is done smartly using air sacks. (There are probably quite a few air flow systems that could be improved in this way...)

Wade Frazier
30th June 2012, 05:16
Hi Ilie:

I did not mean that air never came out through their mouths. :) What I meant was that they never do what mammals do, which is move their lungs and not effectively inhale. Fresh air goes over the lungs on the “inhale” and “exhale.” That gives them a huge aerobic advantage, and is the main reason why they can fly. Flying is the most energetically-demanding activity that any animal performs. Flying insects are the most aerobically efficient animals on Earth.

Also, birds have far more efficient mitochondria than mammals do, thought to be an adaptation for the demands of flight. That energy efficiency means far less free radical “pollution,” which is likely the primary reason why birds live far longer than equivalently-sized mammals. Birds descended down a different evolutionary line than mammals did. Free radicals are largely what age us. When a smoker takes a puff, many billions of free radicals are ingested into his lungs. That is why a smoker lives about ten years less than a non-smoker, on average.

I’ll try to give a summary of Ward’s book when I finish it. Nick Lane’s Oxygen covers somewhat similar territory, as does his Life Ascending.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
30th June 2012, 08:52
Hi

Some of the inhabitants of the State of Virginia and District of Columbia, have to involuntary go through my proposed "experiment". Aprox. 1 000 000 people are off the grid now due to this friday heavy weather. It knocked the power grid off. Bringing it up will take a week... Sweet :(
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57464305/storms-hammer-d.c-area-after-record-setting-heat/?tag=stack

If some Avalonians live in the affected area and somehow can read this, please use this oportunity and observe first hand how the energy really runs the show on earth...

Add to this a heatwave of 100F tormenting the neighbourhood. Hellish!

I have an impresion that your country is constantly whiped by Nature. All those tornadoes, wildfires and droughts almost every year... This must be freeky! With FE in place it would be just a Nature's Great Performance for us to comfortably sit down and admire...

Wade Frazier
30th June 2012, 15:33
Hi Robert:

Yes, they are going to have a rough week. Several years ago, Seattle had a windstorm in December, and it knocked everything out….except for the city block where my office is. We were the only office in Bellevue that worked that day, and everybody came from miles around to go to the movie theaters and restaurants on my block. The movies were packed, and it did not matter what was playing – people were just trying to stay warm. It took a week for many areas to get their electricity back. People were coming into the office to work on the weekend, just to stay warm.

Yes Robert, urban life becomes dramatically different without the energy that most of its inhabitants take for granted, and most have no idea where it really comes from. Cut off electricity and water, and every industrialized city quickly becomes inhabitable. Cities are big energy sponges, sucking in oil, electricity, gas, food, water (energy drives the hydrological cycle that provides that water) and other energy resources from the hinterland. Virtually every pre-industrial city was built on a river or body of water, which often provided water but, more importantly, it also provided low-energy transportation to the city. Water travel was many times more efficient than overland. In 1800 in the USA, the cost to ship a ton of freight thirty miles overland was the same as shipping it all the way to England (a hundred times as efficient).

Industrialization that led to rails, and then paved roads a century later for cars, made other modes of transportation viable. But coal power eventually overcame wind power, as coal energy could be produced on demand, while wind could not. In the early days of American industrialization, before electricity could move the power to where it was needed easily, American factories, and their attendant towns for the workers, were built along rivers where water wheels could harvest that energy from the hydrological cycle. As coal-fired cities took over, those factories and towns were abandoned.

Back to birds and flight for a minute, but first…

The fossil record was given its relative age classifications long before radioactive dating was invented. The various periods, such as the Permian, Devonian, Silurian, Cambrian, and so on, were named for the places where the fossils of that period were first found. Radioactive dating came along a hundred years later, to put absolute dates to the strata. As I have stated before, I planned to take up the dating issue as a hobby when I found the time, and the research for my upcoming essay has happily taken me into the dating issue quite a bit. I kind of got a lot of what I was looking for “accidentally.” The challenges that I have seen to the dating methods do not seem to hold up. Scientists have been able to independently adduce dates, using a wide variety of methods, for ice cores, coral reefs, tree rings, volcanic outflows, ocean and lake sediments, sedimentary layers of rock, moon rocks, meteorites, fossils and pollen. The means have become increasingly sophisticated, with mass spectrometers, gas chromatographs, and other tools, along with new ways to investigate with them. There is a wide range of radioactive substances that are measured for their decay rates. Also, as I have written about before:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=505027&highlight=oxygen-18#post505027

biochemical processes favor the lighter carbon-12 over carbon-13, because it takes less energy to do so, which are both stable isotopes, and they can measure sedimentary rocks and possible fossils and tell if life left that smear on a rock that they weren’t sure was a fossil, because it did not leave calcified remains. Hard parts fossilize, as silicon slowly replaces the carbon. Fossils almost never form, but in choice conditions they can. The carbon 12-enrichment of hydrocarbons is one of the many nails in the coffin of the abiotic theory of oil hydrocarbon formation championed by people such as Thomas Gold. The Stalinist scientists who revived abiotic theory in the 20th century did so before plate tectonics and other geological processed were understood, and abiotic theory has fallen by the wayside:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin#Extraterrestrial_argument

The story pieced together over the past two hundred years, which has cost the lifetimes of innumerable fossil hunters and scientists, has shown how life evolved from simple, unicellular organisms (prokaryotes), to complex unicellular organisms (eukaryotes), to multicellular oceanic life forms that “exploded” in complexity in the Cambrian period, and a hundred million years later, complex life forms began to colonize the continents, and eventually some took to the air. Rising and falling oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, and other gases, moving continents, varying ocean currents, advancing and retreating ice sheets, an ever-increasing solar output and an ever-widening distance between the Earth and the moon (hundreds of millions of years ago the moon was far closer, and all of Earth’s tides were like today’s Bay of Fundy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Fundy), periodic volcanic eruptions and bolide impacts have all shaped the history of life on Earth. Life had to evolve to cope with all of that change. There have been about fifteen mass extinction events in the past 500 million years, with several of the greatest wiping out most of Earth’s complex life forms. We are currently in the midst of the sixth mass extinction, and this is the first caused by a complex life form: people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

Humans are wiping out plant and animal habitats in their quest for energy security, literally eating some species out of existence, and human-induced climate change, which no climate scientist who has not sold his/her soul to the hydrocarbon lobby doubts, is one more threat that humanity is inflicting on the biosphere. About 20% of all mammals, birds and amphibians are currently threatened with extinction due to human activities:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/2010/10/27/extinction-crisis-revealed-one-fifth-of-the-worlds-mammals-birds-and-amphibians-are-threatened/

Earth is on the steepest extinction trajectory since that bolide impact killed off the dinosaurs, clearing the stage for the ascendance of mammals.

An enlightened implementation of FE can make all of those catastrophic dynamics disappear almost overnight. All of humanity can live at a standard of living that makes Bill Gates look like a pauper, and do it in a way that is completely harmless to the biosphere, and our fellow denizens of Earth can take over again before we so rudely interrupted.

But back to birds, and I’ll have more to say in the coming week, but Ward’s thesis is that low oxygen levels spurred evolutionary innovation perhaps more than anything else over the past 500 million years. Billions of years ago, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere, but a billion years of photosynthesis by cyanobacteria changed all of that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#aerobic

and life forms eventually learned to use oxygen in their respiration and photosynthetic processes, because it provided far more energy than anaerobic processes. But the wildly rising and falling oxygen levels over the past 500 million years led to mass extinctions and astounding periods of animal dominance of the ecosystems. Ward’s thesis is that low oxygen precipitated nearly all mass extinctions, and those animals that could adapt to low oxygen levels survived the mass extinctions and then came to dominate the next phase.

The reptiles that became dinosaurs, specifically sauropods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauropoda ), are now thought to have evolved the air-sac breathing system in response to low atmospheric levels of oxygen, at less than 15%, as compared to today’s 21%. Birds descended from that line. With the air-sac system, air was not inhaled into the lungs, but into air sacs, and the air passed over the lungs on the way out. Air passes over the avian lung in only one direction. Not only is there no diaphragmatic inhale/exhale process with bird lungs, that unidirectional airflow allowed for what is called countercurrent exchange, where the air flow and blood flow through the avian lungs run in opposite directions, increasing the opportunity for the blood to get oxygenated in the lung. Where mammals have diaphragms so the lung can expand and contract as its dead-end lungs fill with fresh air and expel the waste air from respiration, the bird inhales into its air sacs, not its lungs. Where I previously said that birds don’t really exhale, it may be more accurate to say that the lung is constantly exhaling. :) But since it is getting fresh air rather than expelling stale air, you could say that they don’t have an exhalation stroke for the lungs. It is always inhaling. That lung efficiency is primarily why birds have about 33% more efficiency at extracting oxygen from the air as mammals do at sea level, and at 5,000-foot elevation, they are about 200% more efficient. The birds’ ability to extract oxygen so effectively is why a climber can be dying on the top of Mount Everest from oxygen starvation, and his last dying vision can be watching a flock of geese fly over, far above him.

My weekend will actually be not too crazy, and I may finish Ward’s book this weekend and report more fully on it. At some time, I have to stop all the reading and start writing. I wish a had a couple of years of free time to further research and write that upcoming essay, but what I have done so far will have to be good enough for now. I can see that energy essay getting makeovers over the years as I dive into other areas, and deeper into areas that I have already been sinking my teeth into, but energy will be the star of the show: what it is, where it comes from, how do life forms acquire, preserve and use it, and how an upright ape was able to use its forepaws and increasing brain capacity to wrench ever-increasing amounts of energy from its environment, which led to unprecedented forms of tool-making, social organization, and environmental manipulation that we call civilization today.

The essay will deal, perhaps most importantly, with how humans have socially and ideologically adapted to that situation, and how the end of energy scarcity can initiate an epoch of the human journey that is virtually unimaginable to the vast majority of humans today. The Domestication Revolution was likely unimaginable to the hunter-gatherer peoples that preceded it – it just kind of happened, as necessity was the mother of invention after humans killed off the world’s easy meat and the hunting bands had a hard time finding food as their territories shrank, as they battled their neighbors. The Industrial Revolution was also unimaginable to the vast majority of pre-industrial peoples. There was no master plan. It was also the child of necessity of finding new ways to acquire and use energy. That the Industrial Revolution began in England, which turned to coal after it wiped out its forests, was no random dynamic.

Similarly, the epoch of what free energy can initiate is currently unimaginable to the world’s people, partly because scarcity is all that is taught:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and all that people know. True abundance is virtually unimaginable to the world’s people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm

even though the means to have it have been around longer than I have been alive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

As I have been saying for years, I am just trying to make FE and what can come with it imaginable:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm

If, when I cash in my chips, if I have helped enough people simply imagine it, then it will be mission accomplished for me in this lifetime.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#imagine

If enough people can imagine it, then maybe we can have it, and not because we stumble into it. Godzilla and friends make sure that nobody who does will have it for long.

Time to do some chores for a while, but I plan to make at least one more quality post this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Ixopoborn
30th June 2012, 16:26
... But while the public sleeps and is easily herded by the social managers, with the bread and circus distractions that are thrown their way, this situation will continue, as horrifying as it is. FE can pop the paradigm, but, as you all know well, my thrust is that only when FE is integrated into a comprehensive perspective will enough of us be able to roll that boulder, because will all be pushing the same direction, and not getting spun up in tangents that fragment the effort and can be highly counterproductive. We are our own worst enemies, and that is the primary reason why we do not have FE today, not what the “bad guys” are doing. But a person needs to begin to think like a creator to grok that, and take responsibility. In today’s world, that is almost never seen, which is the root of the problem. If enough of us woke up, busting the paradigm would be easy, but waking up is the hard part, and it begins in the heart.


This summarises the current situation as I see it so well!

My own development path of discovery of the mess in which humanity currently lies:

led to irritation

which led to anger and frustration

which led to outrage

which led to vain attempts at sharing my awareness with unaware people.

Recently, this finally led to a feeling of great sadness in me - a sort of mild but pervasive depression in reaction to my apparent impotency. I was in trouble.

Now, in no small measure due to your posts, I seem to have broken through to become calmer, happier, less upset that so many others in the world don't share my views and understanding of our grim situation and how we can improve it.

Thanks again!

Wade Frazier
30th June 2012, 17:24
Hi Oxopoborn:

That was one of the best “mission accomplished” posts that I have ever received, and thank you for sharing it. I am honored to have helped. My journey took your stages to extremes that I barely survived with my sanity intact. I would not wish my journey of awakening on anybody:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

but it can wake you up. :)

Yes, one of the hard lessons, and almost every newbie needs to learn to give it up, is to think that you can somehow lead the unaware to the light by talking to them. It ain’t gonna happen that way. The best that any of us can do is be a good example, but if the unaware may have some kind of awakening experience by the examples of our lives, it is still not going to help the FE situation much. The FE situation needs the best that humanity can muster to get us over the hump, and the fast asleep are no help, which is nearly all of humanity at this time. The asleep will begin to wake up to FE and abundance when it is delivered to their homes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

If FE is going to happen, take humanity from the brink of the abyss, and catalyze something like Heaven on Earth manifesting, it must come from the fully sentient or those well on their way. There are not many of those running around on the planet today, but it won’t take many, either. And Godzilla knows how it all hinges on the energy situation, which is why people like Dennis are offered a billion dollars to go away before Godzilla lowers the boom:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

Our friends, family, and associates will tolerate our “enlightened” chatter at best, and will attack and ostracize us at worst. When my mother saved up the newspaper clippings about us, and took them on tour to my friends and family:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=400492&viewfull=1#post400492

it was one of the many exclamation points to my journey, which told me what sad shape humanity is in. I seek people like you, and all I want you to do is think. Later, much later, you may sing, but it won’t be to your family, friends and neighbors, but the target audience is going to be the awake and the awakening. That is a ways down the road for my plan, and we will see how it goes.

Thank again.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
30th June 2012, 18:08
I am not sure if to be happy or not about peak oil being a reality.

I wonder what kind of thoughts have had the "peak huntsmen" and "peak pre-industrial-men" before the new paradigm actually took over.

However the FE energy paradigm is not really comparable with domestication or the industrial revolution. They've simply found bigger pies that before, but was still a "limited pie". With Free Energy the "how to cut the pie" thing will become obsolete. Indeed abundance was never experienced before. We don't actually know what it means or how it looks like... (and that's the problem, not even being able to imagine it)

I wonder what would be the catalyst (or enzyme) that will bring FE forward :)? Will that be the peak oil?

I've looked recently at the movie The Ides of March (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124035/). Boy did I get interested when the President Wannabe said he will end America's dependence on fossil fuel (and stop the conquest wars), but then later on we learn that the revolution he had in mind was Hydrogen power... some revolution :).

Wade Frazier
30th June 2012, 18:32
Hi Ilie:

Yes, abundance would shatter the zero-sum-game forever:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#zero

When I watched my fellow Americans effortlessly swallow the innumerable lies served up for invading Iraq:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

when absolutely everybody else on Earth older than five and with an I.Q. above fifty knew it was all about the oil, that was another of my moments of awakening. How could people be so stupid? That was at the same time that I was introduced to Bucky:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

and many strands of my awareness began to crystalize. I began seeing others admit that the stupidity of Americans was intentional:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/

Even Uncle Noam said that the level of ignorance about how the world really works demonstrated by America’s pundit class and those who consume their drivel was a studied ignorance. And why is that? Because their brain-dead “thinking” kept their bellies full. And almost everybody I ever encountered was addicted to some scarcity-based ideology, because it buttered their bread. It was just another dimension of my lesson that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

It was not until after encountering Bucky that my paradigm really crystallized to where it has been ever since.

Yes, Peak Oil is another classic resource depletion scenario, the biggest one that humanity has ever faced, by far, and yes, FE would make resource depletion something for the history books, like slavery. And, as you know, I am aiming more for the positive aspect of FE, Heaven on Earth, than I am in avoiding the Hell on Earth scenario that looms. One is motivated by love and the other by fear. Can we make a love-based transition, one that may have never been feasible before? That is what I am trying to find out.

Yes, we are not quite sure what abundance looks like, but we have glimpses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

and we have some pretty good ideas of what will become obsolete with abundance:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

from what may be the best thread on the Internet.

Best,

Wade

sandy
1st July 2012, 01:09
Hi Robert,

As Wade mentioned I have had some reality added to my world with no power, water etc and it has happened twice more since this year. My area in N.E. Saskatchewan has a very weak power grid and goes down more than most in the province when there are storms. I'm grateful for the awareness and learning of what it is like without these every day utilities we all take for granted.

The power was out in a small city one of my brothers lives in for only 21 hours. This brother stayed with me last year for a few months and used to chastise me for all my storage and preparation materials. Well he called yesterday to say what a mess his little city (population 30,000) was in with no power.

1. Streets where lined up for miles with no traffic lights
2. Stores with no generators where closed
3. Most service stations were closed
4. People were driving to other small towns 50 miles away for gas
5. One lady had over 600.00 dollars of canned goods in her carts and said she would not be caught without
groceries again
6. My brother was offered 20.00 bucks for the last bag of ice he purchased in a corner convenience store
7. People were arguing in the stores that were open
8. One small store owner closed his store when two guys got into a fist fight>>>>he kicked everyone out,locked
the doors and went home
9. Most everyone was given the day off due to no electricity and found out they couldn't do much with their free
time as most all was shut down and no amenities to facilitate their own entertainment

Just a few tidbits to add to your plan of doing nothing for a day...........Prince Albert did just that and from what I hear it was quite an eye opener for many!!

One good reason to have some stock and more than I need is for those who do not give it a thought until it is too late :(

Great info once again Wade and hey who needs to go to school when we have YOU. Your work is like attending University to learn about what we all should have been taught throughout all our educational years.

Thank You and all those who contribute to this thread. IMHO this is the greatest thread on the Net as it contains the truth and the reality of our world! We can't change what we don't own or take responsibility for so someone has to cut through the chaff to get to the good stuff and your are that SOMEONE :)

Wade Frazier
1st July 2012, 01:45
Hi:

Briefly, before I take the rest of the day off to play husband, as you all know, I read a great deal of material each day. My online and offline reading, combined with my desk job, means that I am usually reading or writing (including crunching numbers, supervising the crunching, and designing and maintaining information systems) for about fourteen hours a day. I read a wide spectrum of information, and one area of specialty for me is economics, or at least what is called economics today. The big problem with economics as practiced today is that it deals poorly with how the world really works. Economists don’t deal with reality very well. Begin reading economics journals, and it is usually a bunch of advanced math. And a great deal of the math relates to economic models that are concerned with how markets function, marginal demand and other economic concepts. Any model is only as relevant to the real world as its data quality, assumptions and the relevance of the phenomenon being measured. As Einstein said, the more beautiful and elegant the math used to support a scientific theory, the more likely the theory is wrong. Economics is a wannabee science, like many of the social sciences. It rarely has falsifiable theories, which is the bedrock of the physical sciences, at least in theory.

When I write that energy essay, I will have plenty of graphics in it, mostly made by yours truly, probably with Visio. I hope that my electronic crayon drawings will successfully convey the ideas and information.

Most of what passes for economics today deals with the financial economy, which is money, banking, taxes, and the like. In classical economics, that is the exchange aspect of economics: who gets what. The financial economy is not real; it is allegedly a representation of real economics, and in its ideal, the financial economy only exists to facilitate the real economy’s operation. The real economy always has been and always will be rooted in the energy situation, which is what sustains the human journey; politicians and bankers sure don’t. The basic dynamic of any economy is the performance of human effort, leveraged by tools, to secure energy from various sources, and use that energy to turn materials into finished products (such as an automobile and gasoline), or to provide energy-based services (which would be driving that car to a destination) either consumable by humans, or becoming a means to enhance further production (called real capital). The less human effort needed for production, the wealthier a society is.

In our world of scarcity, the financial economy has assumed a disproportionate emphasis. Not only do economists overemphasize it, but so do most people. That is because money is the medium of exchange, and the human ego’s primary predilection is, “What is in it for me?” In a world of scarcity, egocentrism is encouraged, which is why all elites for all time have engaged in conspicuous consumption as a mark of their status. About the only exception to that dynamic is what has been happening in the high tech industry, especially in history’s richest and most powerful nation; my home. I can run into the world’s richest man at the movie theater, as he buys popcorn by himself and nobody recognizes him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

I have been around other high tech potentates, and that kind of unpretentious demeanor is common among them. The political left has remarked on that situation, where the founders of companies such as Apple and Google wear blue jeans to work. The left thinks that it has to do with the USA’s post-war middle class experience, where American society became its most egalitarian yet, with women, blacks, and other minorities coming to the economic table in unprecedented ways. The Left tends to think like Marx and assume away the energy situation that it all rides on, removing it from their analytical framework. America’s prodigious energy use is what provided the economic foundation that made its middle class possible. The average American’s standard of living has been declining ever since the first oil crisis in 1973, with the standard of living for American workers declining by arguably more than 50%:

http://blog.ml-implode.com/2012/04/u-s-standard-of-living-has-fallen-more-than-50/

I see that situation as due to a combination of energy-per-capita use being stagnant for forty years, and the capital class engaging in warfare against the working class to disproportionately enlarge their share of the shrinking pie, and virtually all economists today work for the capital class in some capacity, so their work nearly invariably serves the interests of their patrons/employers. And in a world of scarcity, everybody plays along, to one degree or another.

With FE and the abundance that can come with it, the financial economy quickly becomes fairly meaningless. I bring this up because as I read economic data and analysis, with few exceptions, economists miss the boat. Completely. A conspiracist might say that it is intentional by the economists, a smoke and mirrors game that they knowingly play to befuddle their readers/victims, but that shortchanges the impact of indoctrination and enforcement for those who play the game to get fed. I have found that few will openly acknowledge the truth, even when it can become very plain. There are many ways that somebody like a Ralph McGehee is “processed” by the system to become a willing and blind cog in the engine of exploiting the masses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#mcgehee

and if he ever figured it out, he would be silenced, so as to not spook the herd. I have a relative who played that game, and I doubt that he ever figured it out as he drank himself to death:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

Once in a great while, somebody from middle management, who had a real good idea of his/her role, spoke up:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#neocolonialist

but such people are usually lone voices in the wilderness, if they even survive for long, as the machine grinds on.

I don’t want to pick on economists too much, because they act like other prostitute professions, those that populate the rackets:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#economic

even when it can take some real impressive effort to stay blind to the dynamics.

The economists today think that they can print money and play all manner of exchange games to get the world economy back to normalcy. They are yanking on the wrong levers. They are playing with the financial economy, trying to manipulate the real economy. None of their gyrations are going to help FE happen, and if FE happens, their entire profession will become obsolete, as the presumptions that gird their ideology - greed and fear - no longer will be the operating principles. There will still be a use for economics if we turn the corner, but it will account for the wellbeing of every living thing, not just the wallets of the rich. It will be a soul-centric economics, not an egocentric or anthropocentric one.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st July 2012, 15:27
Hi Sandy:

Thanks for the power story. Stores can help with the hiccups, and I pray that is all there will be up ahead, and we will see. Yes, those who have stores will likely end up feeding their unprepared neighbors, if they aren’t robbed of them.

On the education, I will do my best to not lead anybody astray, and we will see. I am a learning junkie, and in many ways a lucky one. Reading all the paleontology stuff lately is taking me back to grade school, when I read all the paleontology books in my school’s library. It is pretty cool to resume studies that I left aside forty years ago.

My essay will be energy-centric, for good reason. When reading evolution tales, or about the rise and fall of civilizations, or today’s geopolitical issues, they are all energy stories at their root, but in most scientific tales, energy tends to get pushed into the background, kind of as an assumption. The sun is treated as a constant, which powers all of Earth’s cycles, from the diurnal cycles to the climate and ocean currents and hydrological cycle to the carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, sulfur and other elemental cycles. I suppose that because the sun is a constant, I can understand how energy often gets treated as a founding assumption and the focus is on the higher layers that are built on it. But that can also tend to lose sight of the basics.

I see it as similar to how “economics” is obsessed with money, which is an abstract layer which has been laid on top of the real economy. When people mistake symbols for reality, their perceptions of reality can then be manipulated; they can become mesmerized by the symbols, and lose track of reality. That is how all ideological indoctrination works, as far as I have seen, and it is all scarcity-based indoctrination:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

People kind of play at being mesmerized by the symbols, because they would not play unless playing fed them. In the end, it is really an egocentric game, which only works in a world of scarcity. In a world of abundance, nobody would want to play, and Godzilla knows this all too well, which is why FE has had the lid put so tightly on it.

My goal is to help people see the invisible assumptions that we all get indoctrinated into, and then we can consciously choose others. All paradigms shift when the founding assumptions of the previous paradigm are overturned:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

Overturning the energy-scarcity assumption and replacing it with an energy-abundant assumption will be the biggest paradigm shift in human history, by far.

I rarely do this, but I will write a little about Thrive and the related mayhem that the movie has generated. I have avoided mentioning it since it came out, because I had serious reservations about it. But now that many of the interviewees of Thrive have come out against it, I will add my two bits. Adam posted John Robbins’s rebuttal to Thrive:

http://projectearth.com/founder-essays/view/46-humanity-and-sanity

I heard about Adam’s displeasure with Thrive soon after it came out. I have long been a big fan of John’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#_edn246

There is a Thrive debunking site, but as I read it, the naïveté and sloppiness of the debunker leapt off the page regularly:

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/tag/adam-trombly/

It does not debunk nearly what it purports to, as with all the “skeptics” that I have ever encountered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

But, if you want to see how getting to the truth of these matters is like walking the razor’s edge, take a dip.

My initial reaction to Thrive was, “Way too much Icke, and not enough O’Leary and Trombly.” I regard Thrive as a kindergarten version of the issues.

As usual, almost nobody can walk the line between denying Godzilla exists and obsessing over him. It is the standard schism between the structuralists and the conspiracists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

Both are fear-oriented responses.

Foster purports to have done careful fact checking, but in the free energy section of his site:

http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_code-new_energy_technology

he promotes an essay that libels Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

The facts and logic of the libelous writings are easy to discern. There is really not much to dispute; the writer has knowingly libeled Dennis, a libel that is easy to prove, and he refuses to retract his libel. I have been hit with his essay literally dozens of times, as people have bombarded me with it, as they call it some “excellent” commentary on the FE conundrum. That people keep promoting it, after having a very good idea why it is libelous after they heard from me, is just another example of personal integrity being the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

I contacted Foster on more than one occasion about his promotion of a libelous essay, and the only change that he made to his site was to remove the adjective “excellent” from his description of that essay. Foster is just one more aspirant who does not have the right stuff, which is typical. I have been invited to be involved with a project that Foster is also involved with, and I have declined. There is no effort on Earth that I want to be involved with, other than the choir that I will try to help form. I have to do my own thing and pursue what I think is needed, and not get involved with the half-cocked efforts of the pretenders, and on the FE issue, there are far more pretenders than contenders. I don’t know of any FE effort on Earth today with a prayer, and I really don't want to hear about the latest inventor who “has it!” That is a highly naïve perspective.

One of the big problems in this milieu is that when you begin sticking your nose into FE, and do stuff like demonstrate an FE device in Manhattan like Adam did, or mail off working FE prototypes to the big energy institutions like Sparky did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

or start running ads for “free electricity!” like we did, and begin to build prototypes to do just that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

you then begin to find out how the world really works, and it is not territory for the faint of heart. And when Godzilla and his minions get involved, very few people can withstand that pressure before they unravel before your eyes. I have seen them unravel in a few days. The greed and delusions of grandeur (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur) and other pitfalls on the upside, and the attacks from the defenders of the rackets, with Godzilla only being the apex predator of that food chain, on the downside, have made it to where no effort has ever come close to success.

Adam has been through the meat grinder, and it shows, as have Dennis and Greer, and Brian had his own troubles that shortened his life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

But that comes with the territory that they have walked over. Very few survive that battlefield for long. Naïve debunkers will never understand, with their establishment-worship, and the conspiracists also miss the boat, thinking like a victim.

It is time to think and act like creators.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st July 2012, 17:57
Hi:

Before I get to some chores, I just want to provide an example of the standard “skeptical” response to FE claims. “Give me a working FE device, and I will believe that they are possible.”

That Thrive debunker wrote this on his site:

“This is why I’ve stated before, and will state again here, that it would be very easy for Mr. Trombly to silence my criticism of “free energy” once and for all time. All he need do is show me (and the rest of the world) a working “free energy” device that actually does what is claimed of it. That demonstration needs to be out in the open and done in such a way that others can replicate the result, or at least verify it beyond all doubt. This can be done without jeopardizing patent or other intellectual property rights to which the inventor of such a device would, quite justifiably, be entitled.”

Such a position denies that:

1. The federal government seizes such technologies either before they can be demonstrated, or very soon thereafter. I believe that Adam has had three of his energy technologies seized that way, and the Gestapo raid of that Oregon facility was a “national security” raid. One of the charming aspects of those government seizures is that not only is the inventor almost never compensated, he also becomes legally enjoined from even further discussing his invention. The suppression and cover-up is completely “legal.” Valone estimated a while back that nearly 4,000 disruptive energy technologies and their patent applications have met that fate in the USA:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=510688&viewfull=1#post510688

That the feds have suppressed literally thousands of energy technologies is really beyond dispute, but “skeptics” pretend that it has never happened, or call it a “conspiracy theory,” which a highly irrational claim, and that is unfortunately the kind of “logic” that the skeptics display all too often. And the UK's government classifies technologies at three times the rate that the USA’s government does.

2. There is any private-sector suppression. And this is where almost all conspiracy theorists miss the boat, too. Godzilla is a private-sector entity. The world’s governments, all of them, are down the food chain a ways. They are used by Godzilla when needed, and you often find a private-government combination when FE technology is suppressed, like that CIA man making the billion dollar offer to Dennis on behalf of “European interests.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

When we were attacked in Seattle and Ventura, the government wielded the ax, but it was always on behalf of their private interest patrons. Godzilla has bought out probably around 20,000 people by now:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

3. All the toys worth having are in Godzilla’s possession. Armchair “skeptics” will never receive the show, and neither will you nor I, but some outsiders have received a peek at what is in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

Anybody who wants to receive a show like that will have to risk their lives, playing the game at very high levels for many years, if they survive long enough in that arena and are deemed “worthy” by what seems to be the “White Hats,” before they get a show like that.


That paragraph by that debunker had other naïvetés in it that I don’t want to go into today, but let me say that he does not remotely have the chops to lift the lid on any of it. The peanut gallery is full of people like him. The scientific community is also full of that naïveté and irrational behavior:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

as they are firmly stuck in level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

and I let them sleep in their soft berths. If Brian O could not get anywhere with them, I sure won’t:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

Off to do chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
2nd July 2012, 14:56
Hi:

Well, I did not finish Ward’s book yesterday. I am savoring it, and yesterday was my first really “down” day this year, where I took it easy. It might be my last down day for several months.

I went hiking with my wife yesterday afternoon, and we virtually owned the majestic woods on a mountain near our home. One side effect of my recent studies is becoming more aware of the plants I walk past. Ferns abound, and there are also horsetails. Those are descended from some of the earliest land plants, with the horsetails the only descendants of its line that began about 375 million years ago (mya):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equisetaceae

and today are called “living fossils.”

Ferns appeared millions of years later:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fern

The conifer trees that dominate the local forests (firs, cedars, and hemlocks) appeared on Earth about 300 mya:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conifer#Evolution

and the flowering trees and small flowers are descendants of the first flowering plants that did not appear until about 140 mya.

In some clearings are flowering grasses. About 30 mya, some grasses developed a more efficient way of acquiring carbon during photosynthesis, and they are called c4 plants today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C4_carbon_fixation#The_evolution_and_advantages_of_the_C4_pathway

All of those plants abound on the mountain where we hiked (although C4 plants are rare here, more suited to dry and warm climates, but they can grow maize here, which is a C4 plant, and I have C4 crabgrass in my yard), most of them existing in what can be considered a marginal environment. Conifers are generally found in cold climates, while the flowering trees dominate the warmer climates.

I have relatives who are botanists, and I will never gain the detailed appreciation that they have for plants in the Evergreen State:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_(state)#The_Evergreen_State

and I have long wanted to know my plants better, and it is another unexpected benefit of the study that I have been doing for my upcoming essay.

Off to a busy week.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd July 2012, 13:39
Hi:

I have a buddy who has been a computer programmer for nearly fifty years. As he has come to the late years of his career, he has been put in charge of highly challenging projects. As he began one of his projects, he met a peer. The peer was about his age, in his early sixties, and greeted him with, “Another silverback.” My friend wondered what he meant, and the peer said that the only people who could really run projects like that were men in their sixties, who had been in the field for many years. The task required a lifetime of experience, to attain the skills and perspective necessary to run such complex projects.

Peter Ward is about 63 these days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ward_(paleontologist)

and he began writing comprehensive books in his fifties, beginning with Rare Earth and The Life and Death of Planet Earth, with astronomer Donald Brownlee. As I read his Out of Thin Air, I see a silverback in action. Only a person with a career’s worth of experience, playing the multidisciplinary game, is really fit to put the pieces together with a synthesis like his. It is just another theory, but a very robust, multifaceted one.

Similarly, the anthropologist generalist Brian Fagan wrote his best stuff in his sixties and early seventies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_M._Fagan

with his multidisciplinary investigations into the human journey. Brian O's last books were his best, as far as putting it all together:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#new

As I see these old guys achieving what they have, it gives me some encouragement that the coming years might be my most productive ones, at least for the subjects that I write about. I am 54, and last year I had a health scare that turned out to be nothing dire, but it was the first time that I had been to a doctor in thirty years. But, I took from the event an inspiration. I figure that I have fifteen good years ahead of me, and I am going to make them all count. Not that I have been a lazy, good-for-nothing in my life so far, but I feel quite a bit of pressure to put a mark on the wall that might be able to help us get over the hump as a species. Seeing these old guys do what they do gives me some optimism that I have some silverback years ahead of me, before decrepitude takes over. :)

I’ll likely finish Out of Thin Air this week, and summarize it after I let it digest a little. In the end, it is a story of energy and how life has adapted to the vagaries of life on Earth. Complex life made its greatest innovations when challenged with extinction. I actually hope that it is not that way for humanity in the coming years, but it could be. I hope to see humanity learn through joy and love, instead of fear, but we are not over the hump yet.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
4th July 2012, 05:44
I'm very grateful for your efforts. You've probably saved me a few decades worth of pursuing dead ends, and maybe even a few lifetimes worth of reincarnating because of the material you have posted on this thread and on your website. Knowledge is power and offers you a far more balanced and comprehensive perspective on things.

"History is a race between education and catastrophe".
H.G. Wells

Wade Frazier
4th July 2012, 14:28
Thanks David. I am glad that it helped. It is kind of why I am here. I have mixed feelings about showing what has not worked. It means that nothing has yet! :) It can feel like an exercise in futility, to chronicle what has not worked, but it may be my lasting contribution to this mess.

I consider it entirely possible that Dennis, for instance, could still get The Muppet Movie ending to his quest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAKPM3gCs&feature=related

If anybody deserves it, it is him. But it would also initiate the biggest event in human history. Part of me has an appreciation for why this has not happened yet, why its gestation has been so long, why it is opposed from almost all sides, from Godzilla’s very conscious suppression efforts to the denial of almost everybody else, and why almost everybody who glimpses it goes haring off in all sorts of unproductive directions, usually because they are trying to pour the new wine into old skins. FE is big stuff, to put it mildly, and I respect those who think that we need to be careful about how we go about pursuing it, if for no other reason than we can blow up the planet if we approach the situation like killer apes in the Young Warrior mode.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

The world as we know it will end with FE, in ways that few of us can even begin to imagine.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

A lot of the FE denial that I have encountered has that fear at its root, and I am sympathetic. But we are on a steep slide to self-annihilation at this time, and it is way past time to right the ship. I, for one, would like to live in Heaven on Earth, at least for a while. :)

One mind-trip of my evolution and geophysics studies is getting wrapped up in the process of it all. The welter of theories of how life on Earth came to be where it is today is like a big chemistry project. When did oxygen rise and fall? When did carbon dioxide rise and fall? Why? Methane? Hydrogen sulfide? How did the water get here? How did Earth keep it? When did the oceans go anoxic? Why?

And then the life questions arise. How is nitrogen fixed? How did more energy efficient chlorophylls evolve? What species survived the mass extinctions and why? When did our ancestors master fire? Why was the Fertile Crescent fertile?

It is easy to get mesmerized by the process and call life on Earth a big, happy accident. But when you have a remote viewing, or mummify fruit or heal with a touch, or have other spectacular psychic events like a damn voice in your head, guiding you to events that are way larger than life, then you also realize that there is a far larger picture to see than all the materialist science can ever hope to glimpse.

Straddling the world of White Science and the spirit, winnowing through the mine tailings of Fringe Science, getting stepped on by Godzilla and being attacked by friends and family while it is happening, to boot, can be sanity-threatening territory, and there have been times when I have barely hung in there.

In the end, if my goal was not Heaven on Earth, I would have fallen by the wayside long ago. Those whom I respect in these realms were all guided by their hearts. That is why they got involved, and that is why they kept at it their entire lives. When Brian O passed, he was going as hard as ever:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#last

Dennis will keep going until his dying breath. You really have to see it to believe it. The persistence that you see me display on this thread is less than 1% of the kind of persistence that Dennis lives every day. I don’t play at Dennis’s level, far from it, but I am trying to help fill a hole that I saw, that I think needs to be filled if we are going to get over the hump.

Thanks for being out there.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
5th July 2012, 14:54
Hi:

In the next week or so, I hope to make a post that gives an outline of some of the key points that my upcoming essay will make regarding the journey of life on Earth, up to the appearance of humans. It will sketch how life got to be how it is. From the earliest life forms, the name of the game was the acquisition of energy. Life had to make do with what was available. The earliest life forms were chemosynthetic, probably evolving near volcanic vents on the ocean floor, where the chemical brew afforded the opportunity to harness the potential energy in chemicals fresh from Earth's interior. The end result of such chemical reactions is that less energy is available after the reactions happen. A planet like Earth would have a continually declining energy availability from chemical reactions, as without an energy input, the chemical energy would eventually get used up. Then some life forms learned a trick that made the long trajectory of life on Earth possible; they learned to capture the sun’s light. That was the great innovation that led to complex life, but it was a roundabout journey.

There are quite a few chemical combinations that can provide energy to life forms. Oxygen was “chosen” as the chemical of choice by complex life forms (although some do not need it http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100416-oxygen-free-complex-animals-mediterranean/) because it provides a great deal of energy when it reacts, and it began to become available after a billion years of oxygenic photosynthesis raised the oxygen levels in the atmosphere so that it was available enough to form the basis of new kinds of energy reactions. Oxygen became the basis of new forms of photosynthesis (how energy is acquired into life’s food chain) and respiration (how life burns the fuel provided by photosynthesis), which were far more energetic than the anaerobic (AKA “oxygen-free”) reactions that preceded them. Oxygenic (AKA aerobic) respiration provides nearly twenty times the energy that anaerobic respiration and fermentation do:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#aerobic

Without the energy that aerobic respiration provides, animals would not exist. Complex life forms have far higher energy requirements than simple ones do. They have far more moving parts, and it takes energy to move them. As my essay will make clear, the same is true for human civilizations; the more complex they get, the more energy it takes to run them.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

History runs in a line, time-wise. Chemical reactions and physical processes do, too. Professional historians try to look at history as contingent, meaning that what happened should not be seen as inevitable. What happened was an outcome of the various factors in play at the time, and there were other possible outcomes. Part of what a historian does is to look at those variables to the extent possible, see how they led to what happened, and how they might have led to something different. But once events happen, those previously contingent events become less possible. It is like taking a road that branches in two directions. If you take one of them, you are not going to reach the destination on the road that you did not take, and further down one road you go, the more work it would be to get to the other road.

Life on Earth was like that. When complex life settled on oxygen as the basis for respiration, entire suites of downstream chemical reactions adapted to it. If oxygen went away, the complex life forms had already cast their lots with oxygen and would all quickly die. There was no practical way of going back and using hydrogen, for instance. Complex life that had adapted to oxygen was going to be stuck there. Similarly, photosynthesis has adapted to certain wavelengths of light. Over the eons, life learned to harness more energetic light (shorter wavelengths), but specific wavelengths of light are captured (which is why plants look green – green wavelengths are leftover wavelengths not used). If the sun suddenly stopped emitting light in those wavelengths, Earth’s entire food chain would collapse. All complex life would die, including all plants. The most primitive life would survive, those earliest life forms, and they would likely evolve to capture those new wavelengths, and complex life would start over. According to the predominant theories, Earth will not live long enough to see another run of evolution that led to humans, if it had to start over, and the outcome would likely not look anything like humans, but maybe some sort of sentient squid would evolve. Some scientists think that intelligence itself may be some kind of evolutionary dead end, where “intelligent” animals wipe themselves out, as humans are threatening to do. In the big picture, the speculations that I see astrobiologists make are not far removed from what Michael (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael) says is the case in our galaxy, with one million ensouled species. The time of complex life is more than half over. In less than a billion years, Earth will no longer be able to host complex life (See Ward and Brownlee’s The Life and Death of Planet Earth).

So, as the evolutionary process marched down through time, other paths of energy generation and use that were not chosen became unfeasible later, as everything adapted to the current regime. It would be like if gasoline went away tomorrow and all we had was tar. All cars would quickly become useless, until they were somehow retrofitted to burn tar, if they even could be.

It is now believed that low oxygen levels coincided with all the mass extinctions of complex life, with the exception of the mass extinction of 65 million years ago that took out the dinosaurs, which was caused by a bolide impact event. The primary thesis of Ward’s Out of Thin Air is that the animals that could adapt to those low oxygen levels were the ones that survived. Complex life has invented numerous respiration strategies, and Out of Thin Air surveys them. The most energy-demanding activity on Earth is flying, so flying animals are Earth’s highest-performance life forms. Flying insects have the highest metabolisms on Earth, and as I mentioned earlier:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=514274&viewfull=1#post514274

bird lungs are far more energy efficient than mammal lungs are, as with each breath, fresh air is passing over their lungs. Air takes a one-way trip over a bird’s lungs on the way out of its body. Today, birds are largely accepted by scientists as being dinosaurs, so dinosaurs did not go entirely extinct:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur#Definition

Time to run to work, but more on this later.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
6th July 2012, 04:20
I was fed Darwinism in college while studying for my Science Degree, and I swallowed the lot. The whole theory was neatly packaged and presented as a closed book that wasn't open for debate. I was never informed about any of its shortcomings or any other alternative theories of evolution in the lectures that I attended.

The following is taken from my notes:

The first life appeared around 3.8 billion years ago in the form of bacteria called prokaryotes. The astronomer Fred Hoyle proposed that the likelihood of a living organism emerging naturally from a prebiotic soup as being equal to "a tornado sweeping through a junkyard and assembling a Boeing 747 from the materials therein". He suggests that life may not have originated on Earth but was ‘seeded’ by life forms present on the comets and/or asteroids that bombarded the protoplanet for millions of years. This theory is named 'Panspermia'.

After the prokaryotes, nearly a billion years later, emerged the much more complex form of bacteria, eukaryotes, whose genes were held in a nucleus enclosed by an inner membrane. Scientists theorize that all ‘higher’ plant and animal life forms having similarly enclosed nuclei must be descendant from the eukaryotes.

Around a billion years ago multicellular algae appeared, and 400 million years later, simple animals such as soft-bodied corals and tiny worm like creatures appear. At around 530 million years ago, with an abundance of free oxygen in the biosphere, there was a literal explosion of animal forms. Within the next 5-10 million years all the animal Phyla emerged. This Cambrian explosion is the greatest obstacle presented to Darwinists by the entire fossil record.

How and why did all of this life suddenly emerge? Where were all the intermediate life forms that must have existed in the pre-Cambrian period that were evolving towards the known Phyla according to Darwin's theory? Richard Dawkins concedes that “It is though they were just planted here, without any evolutionary history.” Quite the energy boom. Were oxygen and sunlight the main contributors to this fast forwarding of evolution – the 'Fast Transition' theory? Everything got briefly taken on an evolutionary joyride and then just returned back to its usual gradual pace?

Wade Frazier
6th July 2012, 05:07
Hi David:

Thanks for the post! The Cambrian Explosion is indeed treated as a strange event that vexed Darwin. In recent years, however, the fossil record has become more complete. The Ediacaran forms have shown how complex life sure had a bunch of pre-Cambrian experiments that we would consider strange today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ediacaran

In all of these ancient areas, there is plenty of controversy. But in recent years, the picture that has emerged shows that while the Cambrian Explosion was indeed pretty incredible, as we look at it from our perspective, how it came to be is being better understood. Global glacial events, rising and falling oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, and other elements, partly dependent on the positions and movement of the continents, are thought to have contributed to the Cambrian Explosion.

But, even if they are able to explain the mechanisms of the very first life on Earth, they will not be able to say anything at all about there being a creator or not, if the first life was intended or not, or whether it was seeded onto Earth or not. The materialist tales can be seductive, but I have had too many paranormal experiences, and know people who are vastly more accomplished in that realm than I am, to buy the materialist story.

Does life evolve? Sure it does. Life adapts to its environment, and as we know, life has shaped Earth’s environment. Oxygenic photosynthesis saved Earth’s oceans and hence, life as we know it. Earth’s oceans lubricate plate tectonics, which recycle the elements that support life. Are the genes involved? Sure they are. But calling it all a happy accident, such as the formation of eukaryotic life, for instance, I think is a stretch. Hawking recently published a book that argued that the “laws of physics” can explain the universe, so no creator is needed. For a man rooted to a wheelchair for most of his life, it is kind of amazing that he has never had an out-of-body experience. Then he would no longer propose stuff like that.

I was planning to make a post on the trouble with White Science in the morning, and your post makes a nice segue for it.

Going to bed now,

Wade

Limor Wolf
6th July 2012, 05:43
Hello Wade and David : - )

As always, most interesting!


Originally posted by David:" How and why did all of this life suddenly emerge? Where were all the intermediate life forms that must have existed in the pre-Cambrian period that were evolving towards the known Phyla according to Darwins theory?"

Wade, I have a simple question for you and I would appreciate David's and everyone else's thoughts about this. you have done your research over the years, life is a magical and complex process of biology, biochemestry and so much more . All the above is describing an organic process of development from our human scientific perspective. As from the late 40's, 50's (obviously before that) other data has entered the equation, there are other life forms, and some small percentage of them claim to be involved on this planet, genetically we might be a product of higher evolved and more capable entities. This assumption somewhat contradicts the above organic development process, at least to some extent, although, we might have been left to evolve without intervention, or, the opposite, we might have been intervened. I would appreciate your thoughts about this in the context of 'organic' evolution.

I am reading Brian O'leary's book 'Energy, Solution, revolution' ,and hope to finish it by Brian's first memorial day. almost a year has passed. his and others Free energy legacies are spreading and sprouting.

"They are waiting by the river,
Just across the silent stream,
Where sweet flowers are ever blooming,
And the banks are ever green."


Limor

Limor Wolf
6th July 2012, 06:12
Waw, I have not seen your last post Wade, before I posted mine. I think that in some synchronistic way you have partly answered my question. There are many factors still missing in this equations...
(The equation of our human being development and this planet's evolution)

David Hughes
6th July 2012, 06:47
I look forward to reading your post on the trouble with White Science.

Just briefly while I have you here on the out-of-body experience situation. I've mentioned before that I can lucidly dream and I can recall dreams vividly. While i'm dreaming in the 4th or 5th dimension or wherever it is that I am, I sometimes find myself in a situation where its apparent that I, and everyone else that I am with, will die within the next few seconds. The most recent example that has happened to me more than once is of looking over my shoulder to see and seeing a huge wave over 100 meters in height fast approaching me. It's obvious that there is no escape, the end is nigh, and I will be 'dead' in a matter of seconds. I turn to the people i'm with, shrug my shoulders and smile and content myself that within moments i'm finally going to find out what happens when we die. I have no fear.

It's the exact same deal every time that I have 'died' in the astral plane. What happens is that there is no death. The reality you were in simply breaks down/dissolves, your body disappears, and all becomes black. Your consciousness remains. It never leaves you. Enter a pitch black room (or sensory deprivation tank), and remove all sounds and other sensory input and that gives you an idea of what it feels like. After what seems like an eternity waiting for someone or something to break the silence and darkness, I grow bored. A tiny speck of light then suddenly appears out of nowhere, and as I focus my attention on it it begins to flicker. It gradually grows larger and colours and forms start to appear. I wonder at them. I then realize that I can shape the light and forms with my mind and thoughts, and that ultimately I can create whatever reality it is that I want, so, that's what I do.

The main difference between this 3D reality and the ones I create in the astral plane is that this reality appears to be co-created, whereas the one created in the astral plane are all down to me. Or, maybe i've just set myself a particularly taxing challenge here. :)

Wade Frazier
6th July 2012, 13:50
Hi:

Limor, I believe that the story told by materialist White Science is a highly limited one. Yes, there may well have been ET interventions along the way, and Earth’s life may have been seeded here. Even if it arose “independently,” what inspired that to happen? A random chemical reaction that has continued for billions of years? Now, there is a tale that is hard to swallow.

In a way, White Science is a religion, with its priests, popes, Inquisitions, and the like. In the big picture, I think that it may be a phase that souls go through to fully invest themselves in the journey through physical reality. If you get to the stage where you believe that physical existence is all there is, and that you are a soulless bag of chemicals, you play the physical reality game in earnest and take it very seriously. In the Michael teachings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

that is the Young Soul phase. In that phase, the most ambitious civilizations can be built, but that is also when they destroy their planets in their materialism and egocentrism. It is the phase that humanity is in right now. We may not turn the corner, but I am doing what I can so that we do, as are many of us. The battle between creationists and evolutionists is a child’s game, fighting over who gets the toys. Reality is something far different from the fairy tales of the sacred texts or the tidy tales in the science texts.

Godzilla knows that the materialist tales are limited, but he works hard to keep them in place. If scientists worship the scarcity-based “laws of physics,” which are like cave drawings compared to the principles that the exotic technologies operate under:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

then he can stay on top, calling the shots in his evil game. But most of so-called fringe science is chaff, too. In a world of scarcity, valid fringe science findings, or genuine mystical abilities, often end up being used to make money, and that makes them easy targets to get corrupted. Not that White Science is not corrupted, either. It is, especially where it impacts wealth and power, such as in energy and “medicine.” I wrote an essay several years ago on the promise and peril of orthodoxy and alternatives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

If I rewrote it today, it would be a little more comprehensive, but the theme would be the same.

Hi David:

I have not had the pleasure of your level of lucid dreaming, but your descriptions fit right in with everything I have read on the issue of the astral plane and how we co-create this reality.

OK, a little more on the trouble with White Science. One thing that I want to make clear is that I just don’t throw away White Science because Black Science exists, a lot of Fringe Science is valid, or that physical reality is a small part of Creation. I respect the ideal of the scientific process. It needs to get rid of the materialism and realize that its investigations are highly limited. Ironically, the greatest physicists all knew that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

and you will find that enlightened understanding here and there amongst today’s White Scientists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#materialist

but the priesthood, led by people like Carl Sagan, fiercely defends the faith. The “skeptics” are a dreary lot:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#skeptic

and deeply dishonest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

But personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

so I really can’t get on their case too much. But materialism is a religion, and a false one at that. An example with the problems of White Science is Carl Sagan:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

He wrote the forward to Hawking’s biggest book:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#hawking

At least two of the books that I have recently studied were dedicated to Sagan’s memory (Lunine’s Earth and Ward and Brownlee’s Rare Earth), and part of me wonders why. Did Carl really make contributions to White Science that those scientists revered so much, or was it his stature as a popularizer that got him those plaudits? Brian O and Carl were the world’s two leading experts on Mars at one time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after

but Brian’s departure from the Establishment eventually ended his relationships with Sagan and O’Neill. Brian got pretty mad at Carl before it was over:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#_edn20

but they likely patched it up on the other side, if Carl has emerged from his spiritual catatonic state, where he has been telling himself, over and over, that he does not exist. When Sagan was dying, he violently rejected suggestions that maybe his consciousness would survive his body’s death. His materialism seems to have been somewhat honest, and again, all souls appear to need to go through that phase. But Carl also had a very good idea that his normal state of consciousness was a limited one. Carl was an inveterate marijuana smoker, and believed that his best ideas came while stoned. He campaigned to legalize marijuana. I never asked Brian about it, but I imagine that he and Carl shared a bowl or two at Cornell. Hey, it was the Sixties, man! :)

That is enough on White Science for one morning.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
7th July 2012, 13:55
Originally posted by Wade: " Yes, there may well have been ET interventions along the way, and Earth’s life may have been seeded here. Even if it arose “independently,” what inspired that to happen? A random chemical reaction that has continued for billions of years? Now, there is a tale that is hard to swallow."

On a pilosophical note - our life on earth may be equalized to a petri dish in a lab, where there are many natural and chemical reactions happening according to some changing conditions, their origin and 'logic' is completely unknown. There are so many factors that determine those conditions and what happens on this 'plate'. The germs inside the petri dish are not aware to what is outside of it, and to who runs the experiment, adding or extracting components... the runners of the experiments are advanced beings, they have a world of their own, which is a petri dish of someone else's, and this someone else is yet another factor in an entire chain of creation. and the whole is the sum of its parts, and the smallest particle known in the tiniest petri dish might represent everyting that the whole univers and the entire cosmos, and the whole petri dishes have to offer. we do not know much. but science seem to be fast growing. if White science has its very defined limits, black science has no limits or considerations besides it's own, is it acceptable to assume that fringe science can ideally be considered the research of what physically exists, as well as what lays beyond and that of our future potentials, it's only limits revolve around morality, and it has the color of the rainbow, ideally,it contains all colors. philosophycal thoughts, didn't I say?


http://www.ivteam.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/petridishblue.jpg

Wade Frazier
7th July 2012, 16:08
Hi:

This will harken back a little to my White, Black, and Fringe Science posts,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=495114&viewfull=1#post495114

and how the pursuit of phenomena and related technologies end up where they do.

The breakthroughs in White Science were often made at the fringes of what was discernible, with the pursuit of phenomena at the edges of what the day’s technology was capable of. In the early days, it was not always so.

The notion that Earth orbited the sun was around since the Ancient Greeks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism#Greek_and_Hellenistic_world

and Copernicus used what would be considered crude instruments today for the observations that formed his heliocentric theory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus#Work

But those crude instruments gave him enough data to overturn two millennia of Earth-centered theory of how the cosmos moved.

The same year that Copernicus published his seminal work, Vesalius published his work that overturned more than a millennium of dogma on the structure of the human body:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Vesalius

Copernicus’s theory had a rough ride for the next century, and Vesalius was so fiercely attacked by his peers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Vesalius#Medical_career_and_mature_works

that he eventually burned his notes and works in a bonfire and got out of the field entirely.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vesalius

In his case, he was not pursuing delicate phenomenon at the limits of the instruments of the day; he was just digging in in a way that nobody had really done before.

A couple of generations later, lens technology had advanced to where Galileo was able to see the moons of Jupiter orbiting it. The Church eventually made him recant. However, Galileo was one of the early champions of observation.

Rome had some industrial production, making pottery and other Roman goods, but with the decline of Rome, industrial production disappeared in Europe for centuries. The Industrial Revolution was an energy revolution above all else. Harnessing ever-greater amounts of energy is what the Industrial Revolution rode on, and science and technology interacted, and the technological breakthroughs that accompanied the rise of industry were all energy-related. Europe’s sailing ships and weaponry were technological marvels to the peoples that they conquered. Europe’s social organization and technical prowess made them possible. A sailing ship could generate several hundred horsepower, which generated more energy than any other technology of the day, and in the early days of the world’s conquest, ships loaded with violent men and their attendant technologies sailed forth, and gold, spices and other riches sailed back, violently wrested from the people’s they encountered. Colonial mercantilism soon developed, which was designed to turn the entire planet into an imperial hinterland that supplied cheap resources and labor to the imperial heartland. Europe forced a different social organization on its subject peoples, and today’s global capitalism is its offspring.

As Fuller and others noted, technological advances were usually put into service to make deadlier weapons and technologies of exploitation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#livingry

Capitalist empires would not be possible without superior weaponry to bring the subject peoples to heel. It is no different today, with the USA invading Asia to steal their hydrocarbons. Greed and violence have been happy bedfellows for the entirety of the history of civilization. Rising standards of living, however, liberated women and slaves, at least partly. Modernity is built on the energy surplus that industrialization made possible. There is no way that the practice of science can be cleanly extricated from those dynamics, but the practice of “pure” science is devoted to studying phenomena. As technology advanced, experiments previously impossible became feasible. The microscope and telescope began to greatly expand the human universe. Increasing sophistication in measuring time and energy expanded those horizons. The elements began to become isolated and identified during the early days of the Industrial Revolution, and combustion theory made phlogiston an obsolete concept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston

The Enlightenment was an overturning of religion as the authority of reality, and science and reason came to dominate, but it was devoted to greed and violence a great deal of the time. But, it was at the margins of observation that the breakthroughs usually happened, as increasingly sophisticated technologies would be brought to bear on pure science. But virtually every pioneering name in the history of science weathered vicious attacks from his peers, battling for supremacy. Some were led to early graves, the attacks were so fierce:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#semmelweis

Many died broken men, to only be vindicated long after their deaths. It would be a great mistake to think that the correct theories prevailed. The history of science is littered with bogus theories that prevailed over the correct ones, and much, much later, the correct theories were vindicated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Birkeland#Quotes

This post is intended to draw some of the contours of the fringes, fringes that are at the limits of observation, and those that can impact the world’s power structure have a very hard time of it.

A good example to start with is the Béchamp/Pasteur issue.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#pasteur

It goes back to the time of science trying to figure out life, in the 1850s. Spontaneous generation theory was still dominant, and there was a welter of theories back then. German scientists documented the pleomorphic life cycle of parasites, which put a big nail in the coffin of spontaneous generation theory. While Pasteur was trying to make a name for himself in chemistry, Antoine Béchamp was pursuing the life question at the microbiological level, and a series of his experiments proved that fermentation was a result of life processes. They were delicate experiments in their day, but the conclusions that Béchamp drew from them are the standard understanding today. The evidence is strong that Pasteur plagiarized Béchamp in his quest for fame and wealth, and had a poor understanding of what he stole. Microbiological theory today rests on the Pasteurian paradigm.

A Harvard professor once wrote a book on how Pasteur’s triumph is seriously misrepresented by the history books, but a generation later, the books still tell the utilitarian fairy tale of Pasteur’s triumph:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#farley

This is a cousin to how none of George Washington’s biographers can seem to grapple with his greatest feat – laying the blueprint for stealing a continent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

That kind of whitewashing is how murderers and thieves become heroic icons. Béchamp died in obscurity, with his findings swept under the carpet, but a generation later, a scientist was working at the margins of observation once again. The wavelength of visible light limited how deeply scientists could peer into the subcellular milieu, and Royal Rife decided to invent a microscope that could somehow see at far higher resolutions than the wavelength of light allowed under optical theory. They are still not sure how Rife’s scope did it, but surviving micrographs prove that he did, long before the electron microscope was invented:

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm

Rife’s scope viewed life processes at resolutions that have yet to be duplicated by White Science, nearly a century later. Rife inadvertently proved the pleomorphic observations of Béchamp, which should have vindicated Béchamp posthumously, but he has yet to receive his due, and the outcome of Rife’s research was developing miraculous disease cures. Without the world’s most powerful microscope at their disposal, scientists could not reproduce Rife’s results. Rife’s lab was a scientific mecca in its innocent days, but the findings and resultant disease treatments soon became the target of the entrenched medical racket, and Rife was wiped out in one of the greatest scandals in the history of science. It would be comparable to the situation of Galileo and Copernicus dying in obscurity, with telescopes banished from the halls of science, and heliocentric theory still unknown today, or some heavily derided fringe theory.

Somewhat incredibly, not long after Rife was wiped out, another biologist invented a microscope with similarly “impossible” resolutions, and his discoveries vindicated Béchamp once again, and his discoveries also led to miraculous disease cures, cancer in particular. But like Rife, he ran afoul of the one of the world’s greatest rackets, the cancer racket, and he has had a rough ride ever since:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

And the guy is still around, and anybody can go see the “impossible” through his microscope. And he is totally ignored or vilified by establishment science. I know of few situations more spectacular, to lay bare how corrupt establishment science has become. But the corruption in any area of White Science is directly proportional to how much wealth and power is invested in the prevailing paradigm.

But let’s go back to something a little more innocent, when scientists were grappling with the speed of light and ether theory. The Michelson-Morley experiment was designed to measure the effect of the ether on the speed of light. Their apparatus was the most sensitive in the world for measuring light speed, and their unexpected result:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment

was grappled with by the scientific community, and scientists kept performing experiments to detect the effect of the ether. They all failed, and in 1905, an obscure clerk in the Swiss patent office presented a paper that accounted for those unexpected results, and relativity theory was born:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_special_relativity#Special_relativity

At the margins of measurement, a new theory was born. Before long, Einstein proposed another theory, called the general theory of relativity, but it was not capable of being tested. In 1919, an expedition to a solar eclipse made a crucial verification of a key prediction of Einstein’s theory, and Einstein immediately became a household word. However, that experiment was so at the limits of observation that the validity of the initial findings have been debated for many years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity#Deflection_of_light_by_the_Sun

The father of the alternating current technology that powers the modern world, Nikola Tesla, took issue with Einstein’s theories and proposed his own, and there have been many challenges to relativity theory and its offspring to this day. Scientists argue that the universe is not expanding from a Big Bang, that space and time are absolute, and they make other challenges to what are today the orthodox theories. Einstein’s time was a very innocent one. It was not until the first practical application of the new physics, the atomic bomb, made its appearance, that the world’s powers got heavily involved. The Manhattan Project is history’s largest classified project, at least that we know of. :)

The best and the brightest were enlisted to create the most devastating energy weapon yet devised. The first application of it was to drop it on women and children to end a war that had already been won, and then lie to the world about whom it was dropped on and why:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#_edn53

and the national security state was just getting warmed up.

When Tesla died, the federal government seized all of his papers, and many have remained classified ever since. Tesla was pursing FE and other technologies that could have disrupted the increasingly global rackets.

Back in those days of relative innocence, scientists working on pure and applied science were playing with gravity and other forces, trying to understand them. T. Townsend Brown was one of the early explorers of electrogravity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown

His work got classified, and today he is in the same mysterious milieu as Tesla. One of my friends received a show that likely demonstrated some of the fruits of antigravity research:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I know that at least free energy and antigravity are in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard. I also know that the other stuff is also very mind-blowing to observers.

But my point is that the breakthrough stuff is at the margins of observation and theory. Sparky Sweet developed a working free energy prototype, and came to a grim end because of it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

Adam Trombly has survived a murder attempt a year for the past twenty years, and the national technology czar told him to his face that she had a vested interest in suppressing his technologies.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=501338&viewfull=1#post501338

Adam’s original homopolar generator had moving parts, and when scientists in India tried to reproduce it, they could not achieve the machine tolerances to get the RPMs needed to produce the effect very well. Sparky was on the outer edges of technology and theory, using extremely high voltages to condition the magnets that made his device work. Sparky had a lot of help, but took his secrets of conditioning his magnets to his grave, which is all-too-typical, and is a key part of the FE conundrum. Any inventor who really thinks that he is going to “own” his FE device is living in a delusional fantasy. Nobody is going to own FE in the open for long. It would create a stampede such as the world has never seen before.

But the science texts are misleading, the good stuff was classified, and then privatized, long ago, and it takes somebody with a lot of gumption to even try to do what Sparky or Adam did. Almost no White scientist can or will go there. If they can ignore the world’s most powerful optical microscopes for a century, they can easily ignore FE and antigravity, and ridicule it when they can no longer deny it. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

So I really cannot pick on the crazy irrationality that White Scientists often engage in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#myths

but it pays to realize the limits of White Science, which is right where it intersects with wealth, power, and the limits of theory and observation.

I have a busy weekend ahead of me, but I might make another one. We will see.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
7th July 2012, 22:13
I never asked Brian about it, but I imagine that he and Carl shared a bowl or two at Cornell. Hey, it was the Sixties, man! :)


Pinpoint usage of terminology there Wade, the scope and depth of your research does indeed run deep my friend. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/hippie.gif

Cheers,
Fred

Wade Frazier
7th July 2012, 23:35
Hi Limor:

Thanks. Big subject. When White Science enters consciousness into its equations, then maybe it will be getting somewhere. Einstein was a big fan of the mystery of existence:

http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay.htm

The kind of science that these people practiced:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

we might call Golden Science. I think that a lot of Fringe Science, in its ideal, has aspirations in that direction.

Hi Fred:

Knowing that both Brian and Carl liked their substances, and it being the Sixties (look at that peace sign that Brian is wearing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEwpeXaLIMQ), that is one of my more confident speculations. :)

Ah, the things that take place in the Halls of Science! :)

Limor’s post inspired me to read up a little on Uncle Albert. A kid like me was raised to be a fan of his. What a life. His two places of work in the USA were at Cal Tech and Princeton, where Brian also worked. I wonder what Brian thought about that. Hearing Brian talk about how the favorite recreation amongst Princeton’s physics faculty was debunking and ridiculing the paranormal:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill

was enlightening, if no surprise. It is like the priesthood scourging heretics.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th July 2012, 14:19
Hi:

There is a method to my madness regarding the previous White Science post, which I have also mentioned earlier. White Science will get across the vast majority of what I will be trying to impart in my upcoming essay. How energy runs life and our world, how energy forms the basis of all economics systems, how people have adapted to that situation – that all is easily explainable in terms of White Science. About the only place where Fringe Science or Black Science will come into play is to make the case that abundant, environmentally-harmless energy is not only possible, but it is here. Most of the transformative effects that FE would have on human society and its attendant environmental impact are easily explained with White Science.

We sent men to the moon with Newtonian physics. They need to adjust for relativity with GPS satellites:

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html

http://www.brighthub.com/science/space/articles/32969.aspx

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/06/st_equation_gps/

but relativity has few real-world applications. It takes light passing just past the sun’s surface for relativity’s impacts on light to become evident. Heck, Ptolemy’s Earth-centric calculations are good enough for most of us to get through the day.

The impact of Einstein’s work is not evident in our daily lives. It is not evident in the daily lives of scientists, either. It is at the fringes of observation where most Fringe Science becomes evident. Scientist are not going to accidentally invent a Rife or Naessens microscope. As they labor under the current optical theory, they would have no reason to even try. And a scientist is not going to stumble into FE, either. It has to be pursued. When Mark built an FE prototype:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392968/pg7

in the basement of a nuclear facility, he quickly found out how the system really works. Or when Adam built and demonstrated his prototypes. A typical White Scientist will happily play along at his “normal science” games:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

completely oblivious to the reality of Fringe Science and Black Science. White Scientists are just not going to encounter it in their daily lives.

Way too often, I see Fringe Scientists make their fringe cases to lay audiences without really explaining what the White Science position is. I think that that is a great way to lead people astray. When Carl Sagan would do his dishonest debunking:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

he really abused the position of trust that he had in our society. When the media smears Dennis on national TV, featuring the dishonest debunker Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

it exposes the media for the propaganda organ that it is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

Again, personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, and finding an honest man is like Diogenes’s quest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope

White Science is no different, I am sorry to say, although it has the alleged virtue of letting the data speak for itself. But when the data is ignored, “classified,” or taken out by Godzilla and his minions, then the White Science theories remain unchallenged.

Time to go hiking.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th July 2012, 22:33
Hi:

Briefly, before I go to the office….

The pre-human energy issue post is coming, but I wanted to cut to the chase for a minute, with what will be end game of my upcoming essay. Economics, as it is thought of today, is the study of humanity’s material wellbeing. There are a few ways that academia has sliced it up. One way is separating it into production, exchange, and consumption. Production is the human effort of making something for human consumption. Growing a crop, mining and refining metals – those are classic production activities. Exchange is the process of lining up production and consumption. Consumption is obvious, although some consumption is of something that lasts, such as a hammer, or something that is quickly used up, such as food.

Money was invented as a medium of exchange and representation of wealth. Almost no money has ever had any intrinsic value, except when food was used as money, as it was in many “primitive” economies, especially when it was something like an ear of corn or cocoa bean. Because money became the accepted medium of exchange, in a world of scarcity, money tends to get focused on, while the real economy, the productive one, either gets ignored or minimized, as kind of an assumption. That is how people, even smart ones, have tended to miss the boat on the energy issue. They focus on the symbol of wealth, not the real thing, because the symbol is how they acquire real wealth. What we see today on the global economic scene is the obsessive focus on money, debt, Wall Street, taxation and the like. None of that has anything to do with the real economy. All of that is called the financial economy, the pecuniary economy and other terms. I have found that scientists are pretty good at seeing beyond the financial economy to the real one, and they tend to look askance at economists, mesmerized with their economic models and advanced math, which really have almost nothing to do with reality.

In my upcoming work, I will call the financial economy the egocentric one. It is the one that everybody focuses on, and its motto is, “What’s in it for me?” For all of Dennis’s brilliant business acumen, he was playing the game at that level. The homeowner did not care if Dennis’s equipment saved energy; they cared if it saved money. Dennis’s engineers never really understood. But that understanding is what made Dennis’s programs so wildly successful:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

It is also what inspired greed in his business associates and what terrified the energy companies. It has been predictable with all the smears against Dennis over the years that his assailants stay as far away as possible from what Dennis was actually doing.

Even though the real economic impact of his program would have been monumental - great energy savings – everybody focused on the money aspect of it. Energy savings was the province of the real economy, or what I call the anthropocentric one. The anthropocentric economy accounts for human material welfare. Saving energy for attaining the same real economic production is real wealth.

More than any other group that I have yet encountered, scientists can see past the financial economy to the real one, and can gain an appreciation of what Dennis was trying to do, on a macroeconomic level. It would be a great boon to humanity.

But what FE can do is raise the level to where an environmentalist can appreciate it. With FE, there would no longer be any need to exploit and destroy other life forms and their environments. With FE, economic activity can be almost totally decoupled from impacting other life forms – AKA the environment. That is what I call the soul-centric economy, and the welfare of every living thing is accounted for in its ledgers.

In summary:

1. The financial economy is egocentric;

2. The real economy is anthropocentric;

3. The FE-based economy is life-centric.

The point of my work is to get people thinking at that third level. FE efforts playing at the first level are easily defeated. When people are operating at the ego level, they are easily manipulated. The inventor/capitalist route plays at the first level. Scientists often think about economics at the second level. But, they usually fall prey to their indoctrination and are usually deeply-entrenched Level 3s (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3), if they are aware of the FE issue at all. Environmentalists can get with the life-centric economy, but they are addicted to scarcity and are usually Level 2s (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level2) or Level 3s.

In order for people to begin to think at that third level, they usually have to let go of their indoctrination, and we are all subject to it. Recognizing the scarcity assumption in all of the dominant ideologies is a good first step:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Developing a comprehensive perspective of the issues is the only way that I have seen that people can stay on the rails and not disappear down the many rabbit holes that await the unwary. What I am really trying to do is help people attain a comprehensive perspective:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

It can also be called systems thinking. My scientist pals wonder if I really have a prayer with my approach, because it takes a certain level of “intelligence” to be able to handle the complexity of systems, with their numerous moving parts. Systems thinkers see the system, which is the big picture. Driving a car is easy; designing and building one is not.

That is all for now. I have a few topics to cover in the near future, but that energy sketch of pre-human Earth is coming.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th July 2012, 15:15
Hi:

OK, here goes. As Seth once said, Creation has no beginning or end, which our mortal brains are not really equipped to comprehend, but we live in a reality of space and linear time, which sets the framework for our physical existence, and it pays to respect that fact. Seth also said that consciousness is the bedrock of all realities, but it is ever-so-subtle, and the greatest science is the science of consciousness, which White Science has not really begun to explore. Enlightened scientists will admit it, saying things like the study of evolution is one of history and process, not intent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#materialist

But, with that understanding informing my notions of physical reality, I respect what White Science is attempting to accomplish. Even though it may have received a little ET help, White Science is responsible for my ability to write this post and broadcast it to the world. White Science is a very young endeavor, and the greatest of White Scientists were keenly aware of White Science’s limits, and could wax rather mystically with regularity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

My first professional mentor invented the world’s best engine for powering an automobile in an instant of insight while sitting in his car at a stop sign:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash

White Science has such a poor understanding of such events that they call it “The Creative Moment” and leave it at that. Einstein and others had such creative moments to thank for their breakthroughs, and those kinds of dynamics helped inspire Einstein to say that a sense of mystery is the highest state that people can attain:

http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay.htm

Einstein knew that we knew almost nothing about how the universe functioned, but that the attempt was a worthy use of our brains. When you have a remote viewing or other undeniable mystical experience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote

then the dogmas of White Science can quickly crumble. Everybody whom I really respect in the FE field is, to one degree or another, a mystic, just like the greatest physicists were.

As I have been stating recently, where White Science intersects wealth and power:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=517775&viewfull=1#post517775

White Science often runs into a brick wall. Some can argue that those conflicts pervade White Science to the degree where White Science is worthless. I do not agree with that perspective, but am wary of White Science’s limits. Other than the UFO/ET issue, White Science does not seem to be impacted that greatly by the wealth and power issue in astronomy. As Brian O discovered, the American military is up to its eyeballs in the UFO issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

and the Brookings Institute suggested that NASA might want to hide evidence of extraterrestrial life from the public:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings

Some of Greer’s Disclosure Project witnesses said that removing artifacts of intelligent life from NASA photos was a science at NASA, and when Ed Mitchell and Gordon Cooper were part of the Disclosure Project, Cooper as a witness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Cooper#UFO_claims

and Mitchell as the co-chair for secret Congressional hearings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell#Views_on_UFOs

and it is easy to get the impression that plenty is being covered up, especially when you can go watch UFOs light up on request:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm#call

So, it pays to take White Science claims with a grain of salt, especially when I know some of what is in the vaults of Black Science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

But take Black Science claims, especially by conspiracists, with a grain of salt. Avalon is full of wild, tabloid-ish, claims:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

as are much of the fringes. So, with those caveats out of the way, here is what I have been studying for a long time, on the issue of energy and the human journey. But I am going to begin at the beginning of our solar system, at least as White Science sees it today, always subject to revision, often radical, as more data is gathered, theories rise and fall, and so on. I believe that many of the big questions won’t begin to be answered by White Science until the ETs come into the open and let us know if the universe is really expanding or not, let us know how many planets host intelligent life, how many times it arose indigenously and how many times it was planted there or cultivated, and so on.

Today, it is thought that our sun is about 4.5 billon years old, with Earth only a little younger. It arose from what is called an accretion disc, and is formed from the leftovers from other stars that lived and died. Gravity formed the sun and Earth, and as gravity pushed on the hydrogen that primarily comprised the sun hard enough, nuclear fusion began, where the protons that comprise the nuclei of hydrogen fused and became helium nuclei. Nuclear fusion creates a lot of energy, and that nuclear fusion has powered the sun ever since, and likely will for several billion more years, until the sun becomes a white dwarf after becoming a red giant. Our sun is a large star, in the top five percent of stars in our galaxy. Stars much larger than our sun burn out quicker. Our sun is just the right size to have relatively stable fusion for billions of years, the kind that can power the geophysical processes of a planet like Earth. Earth has been getting bathed in constant sunlight for billions of years. The sun has been getting brighter all the time, and when it becomes a red giant several billion years from now, Earth will get cooked unless it can be somehow moved farther away.

In the early solar system, that accretion disk had many stray parts that did not form into planets, and those early days saw spectacular impacts that deeply scarred the rocky planets. The geological activity of Earth and Venus has removed most of the evidence, but Mercury, Mars, and the moons in our solar system give mute evidence of those impacts. Today, the leading theory is that the impacts of innumerable comets with the Hadean Earth brought the water that is in Earth’s oceans. Those “volatiles” provided the lighter elements that make Earth inhabitable, although they are really fairly scarce, relatively.

As Einstein’s famous equation makes clear, even matter is just a form of energy. The universe is all energy. Matter is just a stable energy configuration. Some matter is unstable, and we call unstable matter radioactive, as when it decays into something simpler it gives off some of that energy that binds it together. White Science has been able to measure the rates of decay for those heavier elements (born in awesome events when stars collapsed), and while those rates are influenced by phenomena - such as neutrino bombardment - those effects seem to be minor, and radioactive decay is one of the ways that White Science has measured the age of our solar system, Earth, and other solar system bodies such as our moon. Today, it is thought that the moon was once part of Earth, but an impact with another planetary body in those very early days of over four billion years ago broke off a chunk of Earth, which became the moon.

The moon used to orbit much closer to Earth, and has been moving away ever since. The moon has also been slowing Earth’s rotation, and it is believed that one day, Earth will stop rotating and will tidal lock with the sun, just like our moon is tidal locked with Earth, always showing one face to us. Most moons in the solar system are tidal locked with the planets that they orbit. When Earth tidal locks with the sun, it will be a very different place, obviously, and will not be able to host the kind of life that it does today. But those events are billions of years into the future. Earth will run into other problems that will make hosting life more challenging, and that will start happening relatively soon, as in the next few hundred million years. Complex life is a newcomer to Earth, less than 600 million years old, and it won’t be staying much longer. The era of complex life on Earth is likely on the wane already. Carbon starvation is the probable culprit, but other dynamics also loom. But, I will explore those ideas at the end of this series of posts. For now, I want to sketch the journey of Earth up until humans appeared.

As Einstein knew, we don’t know much, but trying to expand our understanding is a worthy goal, and the next several posts will sketch what White Science today thinks is the story of the evolution of a planet that came to host life, then complex life, and then “intelligent” life. No other planet has done it that White Science knows about. Studying Venus and Mars has shed a lot of light on Earth’s unique processes, and I will cover some of that territory, too.

The series of posts over the next week or so will sketch the territory that my upcoming energy essay will cover. I am still organizing it in my head, but the likely outline will be the formation of the solar system and Earth, Earth’s geophysical processes that led to an environment where this thing called life could find a home, the co-evolution of life and Earth, with the periodic mass extinctions and spurts of evolution, which led to larger brains in a class of animals called mammals, and then tree-dwelling mammals with opposable thumbs began growing even larger brains, and when one of them eventually left the forest and learned to walk upright, a series of events grew huge brains, leading to the man writing this post. It is a story of life adapting to the vagaries of the constantly changing surface of a planet with a tiny film of water covering most of its surface, with light rocks, hydrated with that water, floating on the crust and providing a home for life to live above the oceans.

I think that it is a fascinating tale, and one that Black Science has little interest in corrupting or covering up. It is one of the more “innocent” areas of White Science.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

sandy
9th July 2012, 21:49
Really going to be interesting and enjoying the prelude already :) Thanks Wade

Wade Frazier
10th July 2012, 04:13
Hi Sandy:

We’ll see if I can do this without mucking it up. I’ll just be sketching it over the next few days. The essay will be in a bit more depth.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
10th July 2012, 05:28
I will break Wade's stride a bit, but I've just realized something while reading the latest posts and it has to do with the difference between a hammer and food (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=518448&viewfull=1#post518448).

The excessive focus on the exchange side of the economy has led to a focus on the products that get consumed faster and faster, and so you need to do more exchange to get new products! This of course leads to things like planed obsolesce and junk food.

In the case of planed obsolesce the hammer will be of poorer and poorer quality until you will actually get to buy a "use once hammer", that you get to throw away after you've done your job. While exchange is the main focus, no business will survive that makes "super hammers" that last forever. Following the same logic no business will ever try to permanently solve the problem it was created for! (see the medical racket, the environmental movement, and probably most charities).

With food, the focus on exchange leads to creation of food that you need to eat a lot of and you need eat often! So you'll have "empty food" that creates addiction, so you'll need to exchange more and more money for it! What would be the point of creating a smaller portions food that satisfy you for a day (or possibly more?!). That would be bad for business...

Wade Frazier
10th July 2012, 14:46
Yes indeed, Ilie. Great observation. In a world of scarcity, the charade is to appear to be other-serving while really being self-serving. The dark path folks do this very consciously,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

but most of those who play along need their minds “massaged” a little, which is where those scarcity-based ideologies come in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Once in a while, some keen observation comes along to part the mist, such as Goering’s observation about how nobody really wants to go to war, but nationalism provides a handy rationale:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#goering

Fuller was very frank about scarcity being the motivation of all soldiers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

I believe it was John Rockefeller who was once asked how to become rich, and he said the key was to find something that people needed, and often, so you could continuously supply it. What John did not say was that first you needed to wipe out your competitors, because big profits only are made in monopolistic situations (a lesson that Bill Gates learned well), and the other is that like with how the media and indoctrination manufactures consent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#manufacturing

it helps to create artificial demand, which Madison Avenue specializes in. Consequently, more than any other people in history, Americans are bombarded from the cradle with all the stuff that they just have to have, to live the good life, like Granola Puffs.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#granola

It usually caters to the ego, as with those scarcity-based ideologies. Planned obsolescence became a science in America, and has been taught as one of the basic capitalistic catechisms, which you can see in consumer electronics, for instance. I swear the stuff is designed to break in about a year of steady use. They can make stuff that lasts twenty years and longer, but that is bad for business.

And that all rides on the scarcity issue. Do away with scarcity, which is primarily energy scarcity, and entire edifices of our modern world fade away: money, banks, profit-making corporations, taxes, most government, and so on, which Avalonians that read this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

know all too well. Nobody is trying to milk the consumer on this reality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

That reality has no money, banks, corporations, slaughterhouses, prisons, hospitals, clear cuts, weapons, lawyers, and so on.

OK, back to the energy tale. So, four billion years ago, the Hadean Earth was being bombarded with the remnants of the accretion disc. The heat created by that bombardment, along with the radioactivity of the shorter-lived isotopes, kept Earth cooking. The sun was dimmer than it is today. The primordial ocean is thought to have begun to form in that era, and the ocean would get regularly vaporized with big impact events, and settle back in prodigious rains. It must have been a sight to behold, but we could only watch it from a spaceship or other human-friendly environment, because it was scalding hot and the air was not breathable. There was no oxygen in the air. Oxygen is one of the most reactive elements and is never found floating around by itself (as diatomic oxygen – oxygen is practically never found as a single atom, but bonds with another oxygen molecule to form what we breathe today). The atmosphere back then was mostly nitrogen, like it is today, but that 21% oxygen did not yet exist, and the carbon dioxide level was perhaps a thousand times higher than it is today. That provided a super-greenhouse effect that kept Earth scorching hot.

As the solar system was gradually swept clean of comets and asteroids, those huge impacts lessened. The biggest one broke off a chunk of Earth that became the moon, but the others have no trace left today on Earth’s surface. Earth can be likened to a bowl of boiling oatmeal. The fires in the center of the Earth, predominately from radiation from decaying unstable atoms, sets Earth’s dynamo in motion, and rock is continually circulating between the core and the surface. When rock hits the surface, it cools and eventually sinks back into the “oatmeal.” The early Earth was covered by one big ocean, with that oatmeal rarely breaking the water’s surface. The oatmeal formed chunks on the solid surface, and those are called tectonic plates today. Those plates collide and at their edges they run into each another, with one plate, the heavier one, getting shoved beneath the lighter one, in what is called subduction. Subduction “sucks” the plate back into the oatmeal. Those collisions are also how our mountain ranges were built. But, when the oatmeal got exposed to the oceans, the rock became what is called hydrated. Hydrated minerals have water baked into their crystalline structure. It is estimated that about half of the original oceans got sucked below the surface by being hydrated into rock.

Iron is one of the most stable elements in certain kinds of stars, and Earth’s core is primarily iron - the remnant of exploded stars. Lighter elements sit on top of that iron-nickel core, and Earth’s mantle and crust is more than 40% oxygen, by mass. Oxygen is another element that stars create in abundance in their fusion processes. Oxygen and iron comprise most of Earth’s mass. The size of the atoms helps determine how the elements fit together, and certain elements replace others in areas of Earth’s interior. For instance, magnesium is more than 20% of Earth’s mantle, but aluminum, calcium, iron and silicon largely replace it in the basalts that spew from volcanoes in the crust. When the volcanic basalt spewed into the early oceans, it got hydrated and sucked back into the crust. The resulting mix could get thrust out through another volcano. Hydrated rock is lighter than non-hydrated rock, and hydrated rock eventually floated to the surface of the oatmeal, and has been largely floating ever since. The continents are primarily comprised of that hydrated rock, which we call granite.

The dynamic today, and it has been this way for a very long time, is that the mid-ocean volcanic ridges in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans spew basalt, and the crustal plates below the oceans spread toward the continents, at a rate of mere inches per year. The basalt plate cools as it crosses the oceans toward the fringes, and sinks back into the crust, subducting below the lighter granite continental plates, because it is heavier. The subduction zones, where the heavy oceanic plates are getting shoved below the lighter continental plates are the sites of the world’s most violent earthquakes. That subduction is not a smooth process, but the rocks slip past each other, fitfully. Today, it is thought that the continents began getting built in earnest about three billion years ago. The continents only grow, as rock keeps getting hydrated by that rock circulation.

Today, it is thought that life first made its appearance at those volcanic vents on the ocean floor, where a rich brew of chemicals was exposed to water. The current estimate is that it happened about 3.8 billion years ago. Scientists have their theories of how it happened, and they have even identified chemical reactions that swirl in the way that life kind of works, and they think that somehow the reaction became self-sustaining, and life evolved. They have never reproduced life in a White Science lab from inorganic components, so their theories are a kind of faith, and even if they can make life from mixing chemicals together, it says nothing at all about what may be behind that formation. Life could well decide to show up when the conditions are right for it to manifest. On that score, materialist science will never be fully convincing with its theories on the origin of life. Materialist science does not know consciousness at all. That is the big schism between the materialists and the creationists, and all the materialist theory will never bridge that gap, and anybody can seek experiences that easily demonstrate how hollow the materialist theories of consciousness are:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=518761&viewfull=1#post518761

But this is a story of process and history, at least as far as scientists have been able to determine, so I’ll continue. Early life was chemosynthetic, meaning that it got its energy by exploiting the high energy levels of the atoms that spewed out of the volcanic vents, before they could react with the water and other chemicals. Those early life forms were all single-celled. The so-called tree of life began in those early days, and the first two big branches separated into bacteria and archaea. They are the two oldest branches on the tree of life, and they are still alive and well. Such simple life forms are highly adaptable, and many are able to live in environments that would kill anything else. Archaeans are the extremophile experts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile

The DNA in bacteria, for instance, is single stranded, and bacteria swap DNA all the time, making the notion of a species kind of pointless. Bacteria can prey on each other, but it is a one-level food chain.

I won’t go too far into Fringe Science in this series of posts, but I will a little. There is a level of microbiology happening that is still unexplored by White Science, and it is the pleomorphic world that Rife and Naessens have explored with their microscopes:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=517775&viewfull=1#post517775

Radical new understandings await White Science, if it can pull its head out of the sand. The medical racketeers have done a fine of job of keeping the false paradigm in place that has decided that the best course for treating cancer is attacking the tumor:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

Naessens has stated that the somatid may be some kind of precursor to DNA. The very spark of life itself may be revealed at the somatidian level, and it can be mind-boggling to realize how blind White Science is to dynamics that people like Rife and Naessens independently discovered, and neither was aware of their professional granddaddy, Béchamp, either, when they began their epochal investigations:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

But back to the narrative. So, after a few hundred million years of evolution after life first appeared, some of those single-celled organisms learned to capture the sun’s energy, and photosynthesis was born, around 3.5 billion years ago. The first photosynthesizers did not take carbon dioxide from the air and release oxygen. They probably used hydrogen or hydrogen sulfide as the source of the electrons for their photosynthesis. It was not until about 3.5-to-3.0 billion years ago that oxygenic photosynthesis was “invented” by cyanobacteria. The estimated ranges of these events vary.

I do not want to get too far into the chemistry in these posts, but it is not too hard to visualize what happens in photosynthesis. Basically, life learned to capture metals in “catcher’s mitts” called porphyrins:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyrin

and those metals provide electrical potential that can be used. If you look at the structure of chlorophyll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorophyll#Chemical_structure

how photosynthesis works is that the chlorophyll molecule is literally an antennae, waiting for a photon to hit it. When a photon does, it is absorbed by an atom, which excited its electrons so that one is shaken loose. It begins a chain reaction that goes down that long chain of atoms, and the vibration becomes enough at the end of the chain that an electron is literally shaken loose. That electron is that energy source that powers virtually all life on Earth.

The shorter the wavelength of light, the more energy it contains. Today, it is thought that the various chlorophylls absorb different wavelengths due to competition for the light. The earliest photosynthesizers seem to have absorbed green light, which was the sweet spot for energy capture, since that wavelength dominates what comes from the sun, and today’s photosynthesizers learned to capture the leftover frequencies of red and blue:

http://www.livescience.com/1398-early-earth-purple-study-suggests.html

The framework of evolution and competition for energy dominated scientific investigation into life processes, for good reason. Seth says that life is not really competitive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

and in this world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

it is not a Darwinian struggle to the death. This is one of many areas where I try to focus my deeper thoughts. It is a paradox that I have yet to resolve in my head, and I may never do so, and that is OK. I think that love can resolve the paradox, but we may never really be able to grok it while living in physical reality.

Back to evolution. When cyanobacteria learned to split water, it set in motion dynamics that led to the world we see today. Early on, life had to learn to create anti-oxidants to protect itself from stray molecules that could destroy it. Molecules with a net charge (usually that has lost an electron, either through ionization or losing its paired electron shell by losing the electron that it shared with a neighboring molecule – called free radicals) will grab an electron from wherever it can, to make itself whole again. Life had to learn to create sacrificial molecules that could absorb those free radicals before they damaged important molecules. Vitamin C is one of those sacrificial molecules that can neutralize free radicals.

With iron being so prevalent in Earth’s composition, it was dissolved in the oceans, making up a great proportion of the dissolved solids. As oxygen was created by the photosynthetic processes of cyanobacteria, one of the first things it did was react with the dissolved iron. It oxidized iron into a non-soluble form of iron, and the iron precipitated out of the ocean and fell to the ocean floor as rust. The process was huge, and it formed what are called banded iron formations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banded_iron_formation

Most of the iron ore mined today comes from those banded iron formations, which were created by the oxygen of photosynthesis. Depending on what estimates we work from, somewhere between 3.5 and 3.0 billion years ago, oxygenic photosynthesis began to oxidize Earth’s oceans, and as the granitic continents began to grow, they got oxidized, too. By about 2.4 billion years ago, Earth’s oceans and land masses had been oxidized to the extent where oxygen began building up in the atmosphere. Again, oxygen is very reactive, and was a waste product of those early synthesizers. That increase in oxygen is thought to have initiated Earth’s first mass extinction event, and perhaps its greatest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxygenation_Event

Until that time, anaerobic organisms dominated Earth’s incipient ecosystems, but that atmospheric oxygen, even though it was only a few percent of the atmosphere, was deadly to the anaerobes, and they must have virtually all died out, and the survivors sought oxygen-free environments to live in, and that is virtually only underground, where today’s anaerobic organisms make their home today, survivors of that oxygen holocaust. That oxygen event also had other chemical consequences, the most significant being the removal of greenhouse gases from the atmosphere, which probably brought on Earth’s first ice age, beginning about 2.4 million years ago and lasting for 300 million years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huronian

When you begin to snoop into these areas, there is still plenty of uncertainty. It is debated whether the increase in oxygen and removal of greenhouse gases was primarily responsible, or a change in the level of volcanism did it. The debates can become heated and bitter, but the timing of the oxygenation event with the beginning of the first ice age is likely no coincidence.

But what is not disputable is that that life began to terraform Earth, and several hundred million years of oxygenic photosynthesis had huge impacts on Earth’s surface. If all photosynthesis stopped today, it would take oxygen-breathing life forms about six thousand years to use up the atmosphere’s oxygen. Of course, fossil-fuel-burning humans would do it much faster.

OK, that is enough for one morning. Off to work.

Best,

Wade

sandy
11th July 2012, 02:16
Hi Wade,

Don't want to take you off track but was just wondering about the moon and all it's anomalies. Many theories infer it was not from a collision with Earth due to these anomalies!!

Either way in my mind there is no way that one can honestly believe we evolved by chance when you look at what it takes just to create a life form.

Wade Frazier
11th July 2012, 03:02
Hi Sandy:

When I was looking into the moon landings, many anomalies came up that people pointed to to support their arguments for faked landings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

In every case, the anomaly fell apart on further inspection, as far as supporting faked moon landings claims. Many so-called anomalies are where the moon has failed match certain expectations, but that is true for every solar system body that has been visited. Here is an example. There was speculation that the moon would have deep dust when NASA landed on it. That did not happen. Creationists and others have used the moon dust issue to argue that the moon is only as old as Genesis allegedly says it is. Here is an article by a scientist on the issue:

http://ncse.com/cej/4/3/space-dust-moons-surface-age-cosmos

and you can find other accounts on the Internet. Basically, some questionable data was extrapolated and came up with huge figures for how deep the moon dust would be. Better data and more rigorous analysis shows that the moon dust for its lifetime so far may have only accumulated a couple of inches at most, and it also is not going to all fly like talcum powder, but compacts and is baked by sunlight. But on that moon thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

you can see somebody recycle the “moon dust is deep” argument. So, there is an anomaly that simply evaporates upon further inspection. Not to say that there are not anomalies and mysteries. For instance, they keep testing the moon rocks, and keep getting surprises:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/moon-formation-collision/

But scientists are not ready to bag the idea that the moon came from Earth.
You see a bunch of fun moon facts listed here, for instance:

http://usahitman.com/unusal-moon-facts/

but there are bogus ones in there, starting off with 5 billion year old moon rocks. Nobody in the scientific world makes that claim:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rock

There are all sorts of anomaly claims, but I have never seen them amount to much. Are there artifacts of intelligent life and bases on the moon? I consider that very likely, but that has nothing to with the moon’s origin. The evidence is strong that the moon has been in orbit around Earth almost as long as Earth has been around. There is not much evidence, especially of the persuasive kind, which supports arguments that the moon was towed here, etc. Many New Agey claims like that abound, but their substance is thin, very thin. That issue is a good one for people looking into the fringes to examine, where they can see all the claims made for anomalies, and the seeker can find out how real those claims are. There are many tall claims on the fringes with nothing to back them up, or innocent evidence is used to spin all manner of conspiratorial yarn.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th July 2012, 04:49
Hi:

Real quickly before I go to bed, the surface of Earth is a highly dynamic system, but it usually moves at what is called the geologic time scale. At mere inches per year, the tectonic plates take a long time to make their journeys. You can see the 80 million year journey of a hot upwelling from the mantle that has carved a range of volcanoes across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, whose terminus is currently the Big Island of Hawaii:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Seamount

Because of the circulation of the basalt-heavy plates beneath the oceans, there are no ocean rocks older than 200 million years. There are four billion year old rocks on the continents, however, because the light granitic continents float the way they do.

Movement within the iron core creates Earth’s magnetic field. That field is thought to shield Earth’s surface from harmful solar radiation, but the issue is somewhat controversial. The rising oxygen in the atmosphere is what created and maintains the ozone layer, which blocks ultraviolet rays. The ozone layer is about 2 billion years old, and shielding Earth's surface from ultraviolet light probably saved Earth’s oceans. Ultraviolet light is not ionizing radiation, but is powerful enough to break molecules apart, like water. The hydrogen in the ocean's water would have escaped to space, if not for all of the oxygen in the atmosphere and the ozone layer. That molecular havoc wrought by ultraviolet light is what damages flesh and DNA. The oxygen/ozone situation is another way that life has terraformed Earth, where Earth has co-evolved with life. If Earth lost its oceans, its surface would be like Venus’s, and none of us would live here.

Scientists have pieced together the movements of the continents, and there is a 500 million year cycle where the continents come together and form a single continent, but the heat that builds up below it breaks it apart, and the pieces fly away across Earth’s surface to collide and rebound back toward each other, and form another single continent. The continents are close to that maximum spread from each other, 200 million years after the last supercontinent broke up, before they begin to come back together.

Today’s continental spread creates ocean currents that circulate amongst the continents like a huge conveyor belt. The conveyer can be tipped so that it runs backwards, which apparently happened several thousand years ago, perhaps from North Atlantic icecap melt off the continents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermohaline_circulation

which created climactic havoc. The entirely of the history of civilization is during a brief interglacial period in an ice age that has lasted more than two million years so far and is expected to last for millions more.

The dynamics of tectonic plate movements, ocean currents, rising and falling greenhouse gas concentrations, and other factors, such as the tilt, eccentricity, and elliptical nature of Earth’s orbit around the sun have made Earth’s climate highly variable over the eons, but the past 500 million years have been uncharacteristically stable, both geologically and atmospherically, and it has been the era of animals, and its day in the sun will not last much longer, on the geological scale.

I have a long ways to go to make this sketch of life on Earth before humans appeared, but going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
11th July 2012, 07:56
Originally posted by Wade: "a series of events grew huge brains, leading to the man writing this post"

It is so impressive to become familiar with your sea of knowledge, Wade, and with your unique perspectives that provides such an immense addition to all of this information. I need to use my right side of the brain, but also my left side when 'tapping' into it. I am appreciative to be able to be exposed to what you have to say and present. thank you very much.

sandy
12th July 2012, 00:24
Dear Limor,

I'm in total agreement with your last post :)

Wade: Thank you for your post about the moon which made me realize that I have never seen an explanation or theory for why the planets and moons are circular versus big clumps of misshapen forms?? Would this be due to the torsion/vortex energy that is attributed to source and of course Free energy?

Wade Frazier
12th July 2012, 02:53
Thanks Limor. I am most concerned about mucking this up. I had a long, strange trip, from being a science prodigy as a child who had a mystical awakening and went the business route and got handed my head when I tried to help bring FE to the world, who survived the experience with my sanity (mostly :) ) intact, and resumed my science studies in my advancing years, with the radicalized perspective that came with my preposterous journey. I had many awakening experiences on the path of my radicalization, but the moment in the courtroom when the prosecution made faces at me as I was testifying was when my worldview made its big shift, to never be the same again:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

Everything after that has only been a refinement of my radicalized perspective. If I did not have my years with Dennis, I doubt that I would have much worth saying. During our efforts, I saw many pitfalls and deficiencies, but the biggest one that I saw was that the public was oblivious, shuffling along, stumbling through their lives. They paid attention to Dennis when he threatened to pull a quadrillion dollar rabbit out of his hat, but went back to watching the tube when we were wiped out or he failed in his magic act. I slowly came to realize that such an approach of engaging the masses was doomed, or the risk was so insanely high that only Indiana Jones types had any business trying that route. Dennis is the only person on Earth that I know of who can successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

I watched or helped Dennis try the capitalist, Christian, and nationalist routes, and saw the huge downsides of those efforts. He was appealing to people’s sense of self-interest, and you can’t out-maneuver Godzilla, who is the master shepherd of the human herd. All of those ideological approaches, I slowly came to realize, had the same basis: they were scarcity-based and egocentric:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I really groped toward the approach that I am beginning to try out, coming to it only after many years of playing in these puddles. Yes, people need both sides of their brains engaged, with the heart in charge, if we are going to have a prayer of getting over the hump. What I found is that if people’s hearts were in the right place, they were usually scientifically illiterate and could be weak on the rational/critical thought process. The scientific types usually neglected the other side of their brains, and they are almost universally so naïve that they are no help, either, as Fuller and others have noted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

They are almost all Level 3s on the FE front:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

My target audience will have its heart in the right place above all, but that is only the beginning point. There is plenty of opportunity for the right brain to get involved, but the left brain needs to be engaged, too. Only in that way can people begin to see the big picture and the central role that energy plays in our lives, and then they may begin to understand the ramifications of what environmentally-harmless, abundant energy can do for the human journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

It can look like Heaven on Earth in short order. The big problem is that almost nobody really cares, or those who do fall headlong into the many pitfalls that await. Almost nobody has been able to keep their eye on the ball, as they get caught up in a million distractions that don’t amount to anything. I don’t know what all the pitfalls are, but I am acquainted with many of them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#potholes

So, this fool is sallying forth with an approach that he has never seen tried before. I am going to try to meet my audience more than halfway, but we are not going to raise our awareness high enough to get over the hump unless we do the work to develop comprehensive perspectives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

Nobody is going to do it for us, and the FE effort, so far, has been opposed from almost all corners. Truly, we do most of Godzilla’s work for him. He is only a parasite taking advantage of a situation that humanity has largely created for itself. I am trying to see if the heart-centered sentience path has a prayer. If I fail, maybe others can take the approach further. I am really making this up as I go, and we will see how it turns out.

Best,

Wade

Hi Sandy:

The reason the large bodies (planets, large moons, stars) are spherical is gravity:

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=19

Small moons and asteroids can be “misshapen” because they are not large enough for their gravity to form them into spheres.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-are-planets-round

A sphere is the most volume-efficient way to contain mass, and is why water makes spherical drops, but it is surface tension (from those hydrogen bonds), not gravity, that makes water drops spherical.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th July 2012, 15:01
Hi:

In my little life-on-Earth narrative, now is a good time for a little more chemistry. As sketched earlier, life likely came into being by exploiting the potential chemical energy at volcanic vents in the oceans. Some single-celled life forms eventually learned to capture sunlight, which freed those organisms from needing to stay where the unexploited chemical energy was. Science by no means has all the answers. Far from it. They have their theories, and the further back in time the events they deal with go, the more uncertain they usually are.

Today’s life forms are largely built from light elements. Metals are rare, and have unique properties that life uses, such as the magnesium in chlorophyll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorophyll#Chemical_structure

the iron in hemoglobin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemoglobin#Structure

the calcium and magnesium in bone tissue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osseous_tissue

the cobalt in vitamin B12:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12

and rare metals in enzymes such as molybdenum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum#Biochemistry

When a body is cremated or wood is burned, the ash is made from the metals in the tissues. Most human ash is from the calcium in the bones. Hardwoods are partly made harder by having more metal in them.

The other elements in the human body - oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and phosphorus in particular (those five elements, along with calcium, comprise 99% of the human body’s mass) – are non-metallic, and carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen and phosphorous are pretty rare elements on Earth. Even though nitrogen makes up nearly 80% of Earth’s atmosphere, it is less than one in every four million atoms on Earth. Virtually all of Earth’s nitrogen is in its atmosphere. Nitrogen is triple-bonded to itself in the diatomic gas in the atmosphere, and is very hard to break apart. The energy of thirteen ATP molecules is burned for every atom of nitrogen that bacteria are able to obtain from the atmosphere. Nitrogen is used in DNA and proteins, so is an indispensable element to life, and we have bacteria to thank for making it biologically available for billions of years. Only in the 20th century was an industrial method for “fixing” nitrogen from the atmosphere developed. It led to an explosion in industrialized agriculture, which has been a mixed blessing: good for humanity, but generally bad for the rest of the ecosystems.

Carbon is perhaps the most essential element in the human body. Because its outer electron shell is half-filled, carbon makes marvelously diverse bonds, and all important molecules in life processes have carbon atoms as the backbone. There is an entire branch of chemistry, organic chemistry, devoted to the chemistry of carbon. The human body is essentially made of water and carbon, with carbon making up 18% of the body’s mass. But only one in every 200,000 atoms on Earth is a carbon atom. Life has had to learn to find, capture and keep carbon. All the elements used in biology have a "cycle,” which means how they come and go through Earth's geophysical and biological systems.

All of today’s animals breathe in oxygen and excrete carbon. That process is called respiration, and at the cellular level, the mitochondria generate the energy used by all complex life forms (plants have mitochondria, too). That is a story for later in these posts. This post will be concerned with how carbon is cycled in Earth, as it is a key element in making Earth inhabitable.

Three-atom and larger molecules, if they float in the atmosphere, will absorb infrared radiation. What hits the Earth’s surface from the sun is mostly in the wavelengths of visible light. About a third of the sun’s energy that hits Earth is immediately reflected away, and two-thirds is absorbed by the atmosphere and Earth’s surface. Both radiate away that energy in the infrared wavelengths. Basically, inflows and outflows equal, so Earth has a stable temperature. All mass emits electromagnetic radiation, and Earth’s surface is warmed by absorbing sunlight, and Earth gives off its own light, but it is less powerful (longer wavelength), and is largely in the form of infrared radiation. As infrared radiation flies off of Earth’s surface to space, if three-atom molecules absorb that radiation, that trapped energy heats up the atmosphere. Water traps more of that energy than carbon dioxide does, but water’s freezing point is zero degrees Celsius, while carbon dioxide’s is 78 degrees below zero Celsius, so carbon dioxide is not subject to being removed from the atmosphere by temperatures that would see water freeze out of it. When reconstructing ancient climates, the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere is what scientists are concerned about. Carbon dioxide is the most important greenhouse gas. The greenhouse gas effect has warmed Earth’s surface to make it inhabitable. Earth’s surface would be well below the freezing point of water, if not for the greenhouse gas effect.

While life is part of the carbon cycle, most carbon in the atmosphere, oceans, and crust is non-organic, which means that it is not associated with life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle

The primary inorganic parts of the carbon cycle that impact Earth’s surface dynamics, at least until the fossil fuel era, has been the venting of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere from volcanoes, and the weathering of Earth’s surface. When it rains, some carbon dioxide is dissolved in the water, forming a weak acid. When that rain hits the ground, that acid eats at the rock, and the carbon replaces silicon (one of the most abundant elements in Earth’s crust), and the carbon gets locked up in carbonate rocks, removing it from the atmosphere. That carbonate rock usually gets washed to the oceans eventually, and most carbon in Earth’s crust is in the form of what are called sedimentary carbonates. Some of that carbon gets recycled to the atmosphere as the sediments get sucked up into volcanoes, but that weathering cycle has been steadily removing carbon from the atmosphere. That cycle is on the geological timescale, so does not cause sudden climate changes. Also, hard-shelled organisms in the oceans, like these guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccolithophores

make their shells out of carbonate, and millions of years of their lives have formed some of the sedimentary rock known as limestone. That carbon cycle, and life forms comprise a significant portion of it, has influenced how much carbon is in the atmosphere, and hence, how warm or cold the atmosphere is. Over the geological timescale, carbon has been getting increasingly sequestered in Earth’s crust. It is thought that the carbon dioxide content of Earth’s atmosphere may have been a thousand times higher than it is today, meaning that it could have been around of a third of the atmosphere. Venus is an example of what carbon dioxide in the atmosphere can do. Its atmosphere is more than 96% carbon dioxide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus

and all of that carbon dioxide is why Venus’s surface is hot enough to melt lead. The carbon dioxide levels have generally fluctuated in the inverse of the oxygen levels, and although scientists are not sure quite why, it is likely no coincidence. Oxygen has its cycle too, and the oxygen provided by photosynthesis is the most important source of atmospheric oxygen in today’s oxygen cycle.

The point of this post is to begin to sketch the chemical cycles. They have had, and continue to have, profound effects on Earth’s climate and the chemical composition of the land and oceans. They formed the dynamics that life had to learn to adapt to, and life in turn created new element flows that in turn dramatically changed Earth’s surface. While James Lovelock formed his Gaia hypothesis to make the case that life makes Earth friendly to life, it is not always the case, and Peter Ward recently formed his Medea hypothesis, which stated that life’s impact has caused most of the mass extinctions by changing Earth’s chemistry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_Hypothesis

And energy runs the show! :)

All of those cycles are run by energy. Without energy to propel it, there would be no cycle. The energy of the sun and the energy of radioactive decay inside Earth (which is really a form of concentrated energy that came from a star’s collapse, after it ran out of energy), is primarily what runs the show of all of those chemical cycles.

Life adapted to those cycles, harvesting energy from the environment, and byproducts of life processes altered Earth’s surface in ways that have been critical to maintaining life. As I have mentioned, life created the oxygen in the atmosphere, the ozone layer that protects us from ultraviolet radiation, and is what prevented the oceans from being blasted into space, as the hydrogen would have floated off if not bound with oxygen in water.

In coming posts will be how life made some of those changes, and what their impact was, on life and the environment. It can be an incredibly complex pageant, and science is a long, long way from figuring it all out, but the findings so far can be enlightening.

What really comes across strong in my scientific studies is that scientists who have spent their careers studying these issues usually come away with a reverence for life. Life really is a miracle, and while that awe of life is what got many of those scientists into the field, it is also something that became impressed on them as their careers progressed. Life is a delicate phenomenon, and all scientists worth listening to all agree that what industrialized man is doing to Earth’s chemical cycles and how it is impacting all other life forms is a very ominous situation. No climate scientist not owned by the hydrocarbon lobby is anything but highly concerned by the effects of venting all of those hydrocarbons to the atmosphere. This industrial era is changing the atmosphere millions of times faster than the Great Oxygenation Event did. The only good news is that we will run out of hydrocarbons to burn before very long, so the hydrocarbon era will end, but the price it may extract from Earth’s ecosystems could be awesome. The hydrocarbon lobby mouthpieces stress the “good news” of digging up and venting that carbon to the atmosphere, reversing the long-term carbon starvation. But real scientists laugh at such idiocy. It is like those hydrocarbon lobby mouthpieces are playing at being doctors, prescribing a dose of carbon for what ails life. So, what is the proper dose? Whatever Exxon says it is?

Already, the oceans are turning acidic, as the oceans are the sink where most of that carbon is ending up, and those little animals discussed above, that form their shells out of carbonate, have a small range of pH that their life’s processes can operate within. Scientists are highly concerned that with much more hydrocarbon burning, the oceans will become too acidic for those organisms to form their shells. Those tiny organisms are the basis of the ocean’s ecosystems, and supply half of the world’s oxygen. The burning of hydrocarbons is threatening the oceanic energy chain and source of half of the oxygen production that makes the air that you and I breathe.

These are the kinds of dire dynamics that FE can make disappear almost overnight.

Upadate: This evening, I got to a bunch of typos and too hasty writing. I am trying to cover a lot of territory in a little space here. The essay will cover it at a more leisurely pace and in more depth and more carefully.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
13th July 2012, 15:26
Ok, to resume the tale of when life was unicellular. One of the first things that life had to do was separate itself from its environment. That is why the membrane was born. Membranes pass in what the cell needs, and pass out what the cell does not. In unicellular, prokaryotic (without a nucleus and organelles such as mitochondria and chloroplasts) organisms, the membrane is where the energy-generating reactions take place. A spherical cell will increase its volume as the cube of the increase in its diameter. So, there is not enough available energy for a prokaryotic cell to get very large.

There will likely always be lively debate on the issue, but today, it is thought that more than 2.5 billion years ago,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eukaryote

during The Great Oxidation Event, something epochal happened with some unicellular organisms: one ate another, and both survived the experience. Or one invaded another. Scientists have been able to force some prokaryotes into arrangements that they think led to complex cells. Whether it was a case of predation or parasitism, the organism that was absorbed found a home within the other one.

The consequence of that seemingly innocuous situation led to all complex life on Earth. It is currently thought that all complex animal cells descended from an instance of a bacterium, perhaps a hydrogen-producing bacterium, being enveloped in that way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_ednref2

It is thought that all plants descended from a single instance of a photosynthetic cyanobacterium being similarly enveloped. The possibly hydrogen-producing bacterium became a mitochondrion, and that photosynthetic bacterium became a chloroplast. Scientists think that they know the kind of bacterium that became a mitochondrion, because mitochondria still have the purplish coloring that they think that the original bacterium had. Scientists also think that the organism doing the “swallowing” may have been an Archaean, not a bacterium.

One consequence of that partnership was that energy generation could take place on the membranes of the formerly-independent bacterium. That increased the surface area of where reactions took place, and therefore the volume of a cell could increase, not being constrained by the size of the outer membrane. That is why eukaryotic cells are hundreds, even thousands, of times larger than prokaryotic cells. Distributed energy generation allowed for larger, more complex organisms.

The issue of oxidative stress existed at the beginnings of life on Earth. Early life forms had diverse ways of acquiring their energy, taking advantage of many different chemicals. The extremophiles do so today. They even recently found that some complex life forms have learned to live in oxygen-free environments:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...mediterranean/

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/30

which was a big surprise. The hydrogen hypothesis is that a hydrogen-producing bacterium was the first enveloped one that led to the mitochondria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_hypothesis

absorbed by an archaean that needed that hydrogen (a methanogen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanogenic), so finding hydrogen-producing life forms maybe should not have been that big of a surprise. Maybe those ones never stopped producing hydrogen. Meanwhile, those cyanobacteria were merrily producing all of that oxygen waste from their photosynthetic activities. Oxygen is one of the most reactive elements, and can wreak biological havoc. It makes some of the most damaging free radicals known to biologists. So that increasing oxygen in the atmosphere created serious problems, and may have led to the greatest mass extinction event of all time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxygenation_Event

There is plenty of controversy around that event, as with all events like that. What there is complete agreement on, however, is that the event happened, and cyanobacteria were responsible for it.

There is plenty of controversy, as in all of these areas, but today it is thought that it took a few hundred million years after the Great Oxygenation Event for the new, complex cells to learn the trick that paved the way for all that followed it: using oxygen for respiration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellula...ic_respiration

Life learned how to turn a poison into a way to supercharge its energy generation process. Aerobic respiration has theoretically eighteen times the energy generation potential of fermentation and anaerobic respiration, although in practice it is “only” about fifteen times.

That great energy generation potential is what made complex life possible. More complex organisms have more moving parts, and it takes energy to move them. Without the great engine of oxygenic respiration, complex life would not exist on Earth, other than those few tiny critters that they recently discovered in an extreme environment. While the “explosion” in the diversity and size of plants and animals was on its way when oxygenic respiration was invented, from a biochemist’s perspective, all the diversity ended when oxygenic respiration appeared. Where the bacteria and archaeans had myriad ways to wrench energy from the environment, when oxygenic respiration was invented, it became a “winner take all” situation, because all of the plants and animals that dominated Earth’s ecosystems ever since all used the same method for generating their energy.

Today, it is thought that eukaryotic organisms first appeared in the fossil record about two billion years ago. But it took another 1.5 billion years for the Cambrian Explosion to occur:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion

When Darwin was positing his case for evolution, the Cambrian Explosion vexed him. It all seemed to come out of nowhere, making a case for the Creationist perspective, which Darwin was avid to undermine. Before complex life developed skeletons, it left a scant fossil record, which was part of the problem. The riddle of complex cells predating the Cambrian Explosion by 1.5 billion years has puzzled scientists for many years, but the gap has been slowly filled, although with the fossil record so scant, and it all happening so long ago, the battles have been fierce over what may have happened. But the discovery of the Ediacaran fossil beds:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ediacara_biota

and another one in China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doushantuo_formation

has helped fill in the gap just before the Cambrian Explosion. The 500 million years before the Cambrian Explosion were dominated by ice ages, which are thought to have impacted the evolution of life in that era. The greatest ice ages that Earth ever had were in the era before complex life began its rise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenian

I’ll do a little more later on the pre-Cambrian dynamics, but it is off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th July 2012, 12:22
Hi:

I have to go rush off to go hiking in a few minutes, so no big post today. Tomorrow, I will write a post on enzymes. Without enzymes, life would not exist. Enzymes make chemical reactions happen faster. The standard enzyme makes a chemical reaction happen millions of times faster than it otherwise would:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzyme

An enzyme essentially grabs two molecules and fits them together like a lock and key, so that they react in the intended fashion. If enzymes did not speed up reactions by millions of times, there would not be enough energy to power life. Enzymes are highly specific, encouraging only specific reactions. Some enzyme-encouraged reactions happen a billion times as fast as they would without the enzyme. Enzymes are proteins with shapes that make that lock and key fit together. If an enzyme gets “bent” by something like a fluoride ion or heating that breaks the hydrogen bonds that give the protein its shape, then the enzyme won’t work anymore. It would be like trying to put a bent key into the lock.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
14th July 2012, 14:22
It could have been beneficial to have a special enzyme to encourage our mass awakening on our planet earth to go faster.
We have too many 'free radicals' affecting our society, and the diseases emerge everywhere. In order to fight it, we need as many 'antioxidants' as possible in the form of consciousness and awareness in many of the residents of our body-planet, an essential component to our continued existence.


Originally posted by Wade: "Life learned how to turn a poison into a way to supercharge its energy generation process"

To go through a process like that could be an eventful solution for human beings as well. It is a shame, we don't have a few hundred million years to 'learn the trick' like other organisms did, but we have to work much faster to allow the planet to heal and to reverse our earth situation into a nourishing system that feeds it's cells instead of killing them.

Sorry for taking your explanations on life processes out of context, Wade, I couldn't resist it, but I look forword for your enzyme post and it's role on making processes move faster in what we call 'life'.

Have a nice hike :)

sandy
14th July 2012, 18:44
Happy to hear you are going hiking Wade,

Enjoy and fill those cells with lots of Mother Natures healing properties :)

Ernie Nemeth
14th July 2012, 19:13
Hi Wade.
About the genesis of multicellular lifeforms: there is this great assumption being made that life began on earth. The more evidence gathered, the more it seems likely that life did not begin on earth. Even though that still requires multicellular life to have evolved here, it leaves more time for that to have developed.
Further, there seems to be mounting circumstantial evidence that life was tampered with by other-worldly intelligences. Could it be that it was engineered at various stages? For life to spontaneously erupt on a planet is highly unlikely, with odds against in the billions I'm sure - yet here it is. So another in this sector of the galaxy would be ruled out statistically.
Maybe it is the foundation of the theory itself that needs revision. Maybe life, like existence in general, is universal and works off of some set of archetypes. Maybe life knows where to go next, what molecules to link together for the desired effect. Matbe there is little to do with chance at all...

Just some thoughts.

Limor Wolf
14th July 2012, 19:54
Hi Ernie,

There is a certain amount of tools at the 3D science tool box, what you are talking about here is A- not proved in any way and B- an assumptions like that, that we were tampered with by inteligent life from out of this world ,can not be made by science, since only recently it was discovered that water is found on the moon, therefore, it might sustain human life...

But we know that you are right :p

The scientific tool box is lacking, but what it CAN explain is important enough for gathering some pieces of the pazzle.

Wade Frazier
15th July 2012, 14:59
Hi All:

Limor: your analogy is a fine one.

Hi Ernie:

On the White Science front, scientists openly admit that their theories for how life originally began are little more than wild guesses. It is a very far cry from the experiments and hypotheses put forth so far to explaining how a working cell came to be. Any honest scientist is going to say something like, “We have no idea how in the heck it happened.” The same goes for speciation, which is one of the most poorly understood areas of evolutionary theory. So, there is plenty of room for speculation. However, I have never heard of a White Scientist making the case for DNA manipulation in humans. On the Fringe Science front, you see stuff like this:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/slavespecies02.htm

but it is highly speculative. I have seen a great deal of that alternative anthropology over the years. When I have dug into it, it never really seemed to hold up very well. White Science genetics specialists are not coming up with theories like that guy’s to explain the surprises in mapping the human genome. There is an entire cottage industry of people like him, coming up with all sorts of fringe theories, and they almost always fall apart under closer inspection, and then they come up with new ones, which also fall apart, so they keep selling books. And those who come forward, alleging secret ancient finds and special powers, also never quite measure up to their rhetoric and claimed powers.

And then we get to Black Science. There is nothing on the Black Science front that I am aware of that alleges secret genetic manipulation in our past, but that has also not been the thrust of my life’s work on the Fringe Science work. I played the energy game, and the Black Science stuff that I became aware of was because of the particular game that I played.

I am very open to the idea that life was originally seeded here on the planet, and has had a little help at times. But until the ETs come into the open and provide us the story and evidence, then that field is very vulnerable to all sorts of wild speculation, cottage industries forming to spout all manner of wacky theory, and I consider almost all of it a distraction. Until we solve the energy issue, the rest will not matter.

I will try to get up another post today.

Sandy, my dear, thanks for the wishes, and attached is a photo from yesterday’s hike. It was a blessed one. Small glaciers feed that lake, which contributes to that water’s color.

http://www.summitpost.org/colchuck-glacier/162204



Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
15th July 2012, 17:28
I still can't wrap my mind around the enzymes thing... reactions that happen a billion times faster... Than brings an exploding bomb to mind! :)

Does the speed of the reaction affects the energy output? Or is it simply the case that energy is faster available? Like instead of having to chew on a rock for 10 years to have my lunch, now I can drink a glass of juice and digest that super fast...

I also find it very very hard to believe that enzymes just happened! That analogy with the wind assembling a Boeing is a good one...

So life on earth has been an energy game, now we seem to have gotten to a plateau, with FE being the super enzyme we have "discovered" but being denied access to.

Wade, you wrote about parasites and invaders, but it may also have been a partnership (as you say later on) or a symbiotic relationship. Just as our bodies are made possible due to the symbiotic relation between our cells. The point is, it may have been a cooperation game, not a competitive game (survival of the fittest) as we are led to believe.

Wade Frazier
15th July 2012, 18:53
Hi Ilie:

Yes, when you begin to really think about what is happening at the molecular level, and then when you take in the theories that so many of the critical steps to humans being here is allegedly a series of happy accidents, it really becomes hard to swallow the story, and the greats that I have studied and known did not believe the blind chance model espoused by people like Dawkins. Einstein believed that an intelligence far beyond anything that humans have ever hoped to achieve is manifesting through how the universe operates:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#einstein

Einstein chalked up his relativity theory to his “god’s” influence:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash

and all the people that I have respected in the FE field were, to one degree or another, mystics. I think that the frontiers of consciousness that White Science has not begun to explore (but Black Science is way, way ahead of them on that score, although much of their work is evil) are exceedingly subtle. Brian O was a big advocate of scientific testing of that subtle phenomena:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#frontiers

but, really, most of that stuff may always lie beyond the reach of what we call science today. Scientists often do not like hearing it, but science’s methods and findings are only valid within a certain frame of reference. People like Sagan dishonestly dismissed anything not falling within the parameters of gross materialistic White Science,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

and that is the great folly of the “skeptics.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

But their limitations do not make the Fringe Science stuff valid, as most of it is not. This is part of what I call the layman’s quandary:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

On enzymes and energy, it is estimated that between a third and half of all the energy that an animal uses is just to maintain its metabolism. The rest is used in moving, eating etc. Power in physics is defined as energy generated over time. Basically, without the immense speeding up of reactions by enzymes, life could not happen. The disabling phenomenon of entropy (i.e., disorganization) would quickly overcome whatever organization that focused energy could create – the organization that defines what an organism is. Yes, looking at the structure of enzymes, and believing that they all were “designed” by blind chance sure seems implausible.

Take the pleomorphic dynamics seen by Béchamp, Rife, Naessens, and others. It is really a lack of energy that ends up starving those cells, so that they go off on their own, reverting back to the more “primitive” organization that they had before cooperating in becoming complex life. The same dynamic is seen as being behind the collapse of civilizations:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

I have not gotten to that part of my little narrative here yet, but that is a central part of the thrust of my energy essay. Human civilization is a macrocosm of what happens in complex organisms. If there is enough energy made available, then everybody is fed and plays along, but when the energy runs out, it is every man – or cell – for himself, and they all revert to simpler organization and behavior in order to survive.

Yes, it could well be that cooperation, not competition, is how it should work and does work, but when the energy becomes relatively scarcer, competition for the dwindling energy resource happens, and then it can get ugly. It also may be true that those who adapted to energy scarcity the best were able to flourish the best when energy was abundant, but that is also controversial. That is coming in my narrative. I am going to be covering a lot of ground in the coming posts, and I think that I will sketch the entire trajectory of my upcoming essay, and it may become clear that the scope of it has daunted me at times, and why it has taken me so long. Energy is the name of the game and always has been, and Godzilla knows this well, which is why disruptive energy technology is by far the most watched area for wiping out upstarts. I may have run out of time today for another big post on my narrative, but I will keep plugging along until I get it done. There are still some areas that I am looking into. I do not have the time to do this material the justice it deserves, and my upcoming essay may be seen as a mere sketch, but my goal is to get people thinking in energy terms. When they do, a lot becomes clear that was previously invisible or not understood. Scientists think almost strictly in matter-and-energy terms when playing the White Science game, whether it is geophysics, cosmology, molecular biology, or evolution. We will see how much success I have with making my point. If I make it the way that I think I can, I will be looking for people who can join the conversation and flesh out the paradigm and visions that I have had since I was a teenager.

Best,

Wade

Elly
15th July 2012, 20:02
I have been told that an enzyme is an entity that allows processes to occur much faster than if it was left to chance.

ATP syntase is one of the oldest enzymes on Earth, as I read here: http://www.atpsynthase.info/Basics.html .

This enzyme is the primary source of ATP which is a carrier of energy. The fuel as to speak for all organisms, from the simple bacteria to humans. The structure of this enzyme is rather complex as seen bellow.

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I did a little research, and this article http://trueorigin.org/atp.asp , explains well the importance of ATP in the existence of life. Here are some excepts:

ATP is an abbreviation for adenosine triphosphate, a complex molecule that contains the nucleoside adenosine and a tail consisting of three phosphates. As far as known, all organisms from the simplest bacteria to humans use ATP as their primary energy currency. The energy level it carries is just the right amount for most biological reactions. (…)

Energy is usually liberated from the ATP molecule to do work in the cell by a reaction that removes one of the phosphate-oxygen groups, leaving adenosine diphosphate (ADP). When the ATP converts to ADP, the ATP is said to be spent. Then the ADP is usually immediately recycled in the mitochondria where it is recharged and comes out again as ATP. In the words of Trefil (1992, p. 93) “hooking and unhooking that last phosphate [on ATP] is what keeps the whole world operating.” (...)

The total human body content of ATP is only about 50 grams, which must be constantly recycled every day. The ultimate source of energy for constructing ATP is food; ATP is simply the carrier and regulation-storage unit of energy. The average daily intake of 2,500 food calories translates into a turnover of a whopping 180 kg (400 lbs) of ATP (Kornberg, 1989, p. 65). (…)

Without ATP, life as we understand it could not exist. It is a perfectly-designed, intricate molecule that serves a critical role in providing the proper size energy packet for scores of thousands of classes of reactions that occur in all forms of life. Even viruses rely on an ATP molecule identical to that used in humans. The ATP energy system is quick, highly efficient, produces a rapid turnover of ATP, and can rapidly respond to energy demand changes (Goodsell, 1996, p.79).

Furthermore, the ATP molecule is so enormously intricate that we are just now beginning to understand how it works. Each ATP molecule is over 500 atomic mass units (500 AMUs). In manufacturing terms, the ATP molecule is a machine with a level of organization on the order of a research microscope or a standard television (Darnell, Lodish, and Baltimore, 1996). (…)

According to the concept of irreducible complexity, these ATP producing machines must have been manufactured as functioning units and they could not have evolved by Darwinism mechanisms. Anything less than an entire ATP molecule will not function and a manufacturing plant which is less than complete cannot produce a functioning ATP. Some believe that the field of biochemistry which has achieved this understanding has already falsified the Darwinian world view (Behe, 1996).

So our bodies are like very effective combustion vehicles. But wouldn't free energy be an idea to consider within our own bodies?

Wade Frazier
15th July 2012, 20:53
Hi Cara:

Thanks. The molecules involved in the enzymes for making ATP are huge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP5A1

ATP is the “coin of the realm” of life on Earth. All life runs on ATP. Mitochondria are the turbo-charged ATP producers, using oxygenic respiration (the human body is 10% mitochondria, by weight). The most common enzyme on Earth is called Rubisco,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubisco

which takes the energy captured by photosynthesis and uses it to combine carbon dioxide and water into carbohydrates, which provide the energy that runs life.

When the delicate dance at the molecular level begins to be comprehended, stupefied wonder is often the attendant emotion. And it all happened by accident! :)

Off to some Sunday work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
15th July 2012, 21:30
Hi:

Real quickly, before I run off to work…

A useful way to think about energy and enzymes is in terms of flow. It is the flow of energy that makes life happen. Without an energy flow, there is nothing to direct to build carbohydrates, build proteins, build the very building blocks of life, much less get them to move in the coordinated fashion that we call life. Energy flows are the engine that it all runs on. Stop the energy flow, and life stops. It is just about that simple. If a reaction runs millions of times slower than in the presence of a matchmaking catalyst, then that reaction won’t happen, but other reactions will, which makes the desired reaction unlikely if not impossible. Enzymes make reactions possible that otherwise would not happen. Enzymes are highly specific regarding just what reactions they make possible. The most complex factory that humans have ever constructed pales to insignificance when the complexity of the processes in an average cell is considered.

Best,

Wade

sandy
15th July 2012, 21:53
Thanks for sharing your hike as I can smell the fresh air and pines from your pic and feel energized by knowing the " Awesome" nature of it all!! :)




Hi All:

Limor: your analogy is a fine one.

Hi Ernie:

On the White Science front, scientists openly admit that their theories for how life originally began are little more than wild guesses. It is a very far cry from the experiments and hypotheses put forth so far to explaining how a working cell came to be. Any honest scientist is going to say something like, “We have no idea how in the heck it happened.” The same goes for speciation, which is one of the most poorly understood areas of evolutionary theory. So, there is plenty of room for speculation. However, I have never heard of a White Scientist making the case for DNA manipulation in humans. On the Fringe Science front, you see stuff like this:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/slavespecies02.htm

but it is highly speculative. I have seen a great deal of that alternative anthropology over the years. When I have dug into it, it never really seemed to hold up very well. White Science genetics specialists are not coming up with theories like that guy’s to explain the surprises in mapping the human genome. There is an entire cottage industry of people like him, coming up with all sorts of fringe theories, and they almost always fall apart under closer inspection, and then they come up with new ones, which also fall apart, so they keep selling books. And those who come forward, alleging secret ancient finds and special powers, also never quite measure up to their rhetoric and claimed powers.

And then we get to Black Science. There is nothing on the Black Science front that I am aware of that alleges secret genetic manipulation in our past, but that has also not been the thrust of my life’s work on the Fringe Science work. I played the energy game, and the Black Science stuff that I became aware of was because of the particular game that I played.

I am very open to the idea that life was originally seeded here on the planet, and has had a little help at times. But until the ETs come into the open and provide us the story and evidence, then that field is very vulnerable to all sorts of wild speculation, cottage industries forming to spout all manner of wacky theory, and I consider almost all of it a distraction. Until we solve the energy issue, the rest will not matter.

I will try to get up another post today.

Sandy, my dear, thanks for the wishes, and attached is a photo from yesterday’s hike. It was a blessed one. Small glaciers feed that lake, which contributes to that water’s color.

http://www.summitpost.org/colchuck-glacier/162204



Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th July 2012, 02:30
Hi Cara:

Generating FE in one’s body is what I call Level 19:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

I have heard that Level 19s exist on the planet, but I have never met one, and nobody who achieved it is showing the world how to become a Level 19. I believe that humanity is a long, long way from all becoming Level 19s.

None the mainstream gurus that I ever heard of are/were Level 19s, or that guy who can burn paper with his bare hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af1RGVaBQYc

They all had to eat. I have played similar, but less accomplished, energy games with my hands:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=496281&viewfull=1#post496281

and I know that that is a long way from Level 19.

You get some stray alleged level 19s in India, for instance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMLFLhw3UGs

But they never show people how to do it. Even if they could, it would likely amount to attaining a level of enlightenment that very, very few have ever manifested in history. Even in this probable heavenly world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

they are not Level 19s, or if there are any, they are exceedingly rare.

Leaving Level 19 aside for the moment (which may be near the summit of thinking and acting like a creator here), what I have seen is that when people begin to comprehend the free energy conundrum, many unproductive reactions can ensue, and one of them is hoping that some superior beings can save us from ourselves (which is thinking like a victim, which we are all experts at doing :) ). I highly doubt that that is in the cards. It is time to learn to paddle our own canoes. I regard one of the unproductive reactions to be the many varieties of “magical thinking” that I have seen, where some miracle happens to us and we all float off to our reward without doing the work.

If we are going to solve the energy issue on this planet anytime soon, it will likely be the same way that we got into this mess, via the implementation of technology. Without technology, proto-humans would have never left the trees, if the cooking hypothesis has much validity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

And even if fire was mastered later than Wrangham posits, our tools made us. The implementation of technology allowed proto-humans to leave their natural range, led to many biological adaptations to our changed energy paradigm (larger brains, smaller digestive tracts, smaller jaws, and many other changes), and eventually led to time freed from food acquisition so that humans could develop what we call civilization. It all depended on ways to increase the amount of energy available to humans. Today’s industrial era is no different, and rising lifestyles made possible by the exploitation of fossil fuels liberated slaves and women, and led to many changes. Can we raise our collective sentience to the level where we turn the corner, or do we meet our demise by our own hand (with a little help from Godzilla)? That is the important question, I think, and it hinges on the near-term resolution of the energy issue. I know that FE exists, but we don’t get any, primarily due to our collective failings, which have been exploited by the hyper-elites. If enough of us can raise our sentience, we don’t have to become superhuman Level 19s, but mere Level 12s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

I think that it might be sufficient if several thousand of us achieved it. But becoming a Level 12 is a lot harder than it may seem. First of all, people have to have their hearts in the right place, and then people have to throw away almost everything that they think that they know, such as all of those scarcity-based ideologies that have been drilled into our heads since the cradle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

That is far from the end of the FE road, but almost nobody can even get that far these days. While my goal and vision can seem quixotic, it has a far better chance in the near-term, IMO, than everybody becoming Level 19s.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th July 2012, 16:00
Hi:

I don’t have the time this morning for a long post, but I will briefly describe some of the geophysical processes that have shaped life on Earth, and how life has in turn shaped geophysical processes.

The big engine of life on Earth is the sun. Without the energy of sunlight, there would not be any life on Earth, except for perhaps some single-celled extremophiles living far below Earth’s frozen surface, taking advantage of chemical potential.

Because Earth’s rotational axis is somewhat perpendicular to its plane of orbit around the sun, the entire planet gets sunlight during each revolution of the Earth around its axis, except near the poles. Earth’s axis of revolution is tilted from the perpendicular, and that is why Earth has seasons. That tilt is fairly constant, only varying by a little over two degrees over a 41,000-year cycle. The moon mutes that variability. Earth’s tilt would be far more variable, and the climate swings consequently far more extreme, if not for the moon. Mars is that way. The eccentricity of Earth’s orbit varies over a 100,000-year cycle, and the axis of its revolution wobbles over a 22,000-year cycle. The elliptical orbit also shifts around the sun in 450,000-year cycles. The three shorter cycles are thought to have been the critical influence on the ice age that we are currently in. The Serbian scientist Milanković did the early work on those cycles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milutin_Milankovi%C4%87

That is only part of the story for Earth’s climate, however. What is happening on the ground is also vitally important. As I stated previously, the continents are on a 500-million year cycle of breaking apart and coming back together:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=519718&viewfull=1#post519718

The configuration of the continents has been responsible for mass extinction events, and the reasons are as follows. The sun’s energy hits the equatorial region most directly, so that is the warmest part of Earth’s surface and always has been. The limit of the tropics is defined as the furthest that the tilt of Earth’s orbit brings the sun overhead on the longest day of the year for that hemisphere. Earth’s tilt today is 23.4 degrees, which is about in the middle of its range. As that solar energy hits the equatorial regions, the air, land and oceans in the tropics get heated up, and that heat spreads to the colder regions. Rock can’t transfer heat very well, and the air can’t hold much heat. The oceans are by far the most important medium to transfer heat around the world, and the ocean’s currents comprise the most important variable of Earth’s climate today. In recent years, the importance of the El Niño and La Niña cycles has become appreciated. It is the most important climactic cycle, next to the seasons, on Earth.

Today, because of the configuration of the continents, Earth has a current conveyor belt that encompasses the entire planet.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=519718&viewfull=1#post519718

Except that the Arctic Ocean is virtually landlocked, so the warm waters from the equator never reach it. That is a big reason why we are in an ice age. The only current that gets close stops in the North Atlantic. That North Atlantic current makes Europe far warmer than it would otherwise be. But more importantly for life in the oceans, when that current stops in the North Atlantic, the warm waters from the southern oceans give up their heat and sink to the ocean floor. That sinking water is what brings oxygen to the oceans. There is another one of those sinking water shunts to the ocean floor near the other pole at Antarctica. Before hundreds of millions of years of photosynthesis created an oxygen-rich atmosphere, there was no oxygen to bring to the ocean floor, and the oceans were what scientists call anoxic.

But during the past two billion years, when the continents came together, their configuration did not provide physical barriers to the currents, with nothing forcing them downward to the ocean floor. It is now thought that when the continental configuration stopped supporting oceanic circulation, the ocean currents stopped moving and became a calm pond. Oxygen stopped getting circulated to the ocean floor, and the oceans lost their oxygen and became anoxic. Those anoxic oceans could not support the complex animals that lived in them, so there was a mass extinction of ocean life. The scientist who posited the theory is Donald Canfield:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Canfield

And those anoxic oceans are today called Canfield oceans. So, while ocean animals died out, it did not meant that all life died out. All the dead animals sank to the ocean floor, but other animals were not there to eat them, so they just piled up. Today, those anoxic ocean holocausts are suspected to have laid down the carbon-rich corpses that became the oil fields that we are so quickly mining and burning. But not all ocean life went extinct. Some hung in there near the surface, where some oxygen mixing with the atmosphere happened, but perhaps most impactful were bacteria that could thrive in that anoxic environment. One class of bacteria in particular used sulfur in its respiration process, and a recent theory coming out of the Canfield ocean theory is that those respiring bacteria created a cloud of hydrogen sulfide that rose from the anoxic ocean and killed plants and depleted the ozone layer (for the events when there was land life, for the early events, land had not been invaded by life yet). Those mass extinctions that arose due to the continental configurations and resultant hydrogen sulfide asphyxiation are now thought to have been responsible for the large gap of when complex life evolved.

These are all just theories, but there is increasing evidence to back them up. Life has made the Earth friendlier to life, but life has also played a part in wiping out most life. This is behind Peter Ward’s Medea Hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_Hypothesis

which is the antithesis of Lovelock’s Gaia Hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis

What is clear, however, is that life has had a large impact on Earth’s environment. The biggest environmental impact of all time by a life form is what humans are currently doing. Nothing else comes close, for the violence of it, happening in the geological blink of an eye. But I have a long ways to go before we get to Earth’s sixth great mass extinction, which we are in the middle of today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

as humans wiped out nearly all the large animals, both on land, in the air, and in the oceans, in its quest for energy.


Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th July 2012, 14:38
Hi:

I will not have much time this week to write posts, but briefly:

In his The Medea Hypothesis, Peter Ward defines the three activities essential to life:

1. Metabolism

2. Reproduction

3. Evolution

If life does not do those three things, life does not exist. Metabolism is the first activity, which is about energy. Ward produces Paul Davies’s list of answers to the question, “What is life?” According to Davies, life:

A. Metabolizes (acquires and uses energy)

B. Has complexity and organization

C. Reproduces

D. Develops

E. Is autonomous

F. Evolves

Those are his most fundamental properties of life, and energy makes it all possible. Without sufficient energy, the rest cannot happen. It is the most basic requirement for life.

During my studies over the years, it became obvious that humans are no different, on the biological level, and human civilization is essentially an extension of our biology. The rise and fall of civilizations follows those life attributes fairly closely. First and foremost, civilization needs energy. At its most essential level, it comes in the form of food. In today’s industrialized civilizations, that food is grown in the hinterland and transported to the urban environments. All early urban environments were places on low-energy transportation lanes, usually bodies of water. In the pre-industrial era, goods could move with about 1% of the energy expenditure on water than they did on land. Even better is if the city is on a river, and is supplied by an upland hinterland, so that the goods flow downstream to their destination. Even in our industrial age, with the energy of fossil fuels making it all possible, most cities are still situated on bodies of water.

One of the primary messages of my work and upcoming essay is that the energy situation shapes almost all human activities, in ways that most humans are oblivious to. My goal is to make those dynamics visible. But that is just the start. When people can begin to understand how energy shapes our lives, and the many behaviors and social institutions that adapted to the energy situation, then people will have a far better idea of how abundant, environmentally harmless energy can transform human society. It really can be mind-boggling to begin to think in those directions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

but almost nobody on Earth today is able to do so, or they have unproductive reactions to the idea, which I call levels 1 to 11 on the Free Energy Onion scale:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

I have spent nearly half of my life witnessing those reactions. My goal is to help enough people get past those pitfalls so that we can form a critical mass that can get something done. As I have stated many times, first people have to care, and almost nobody on Earth today really cares, not enough to let go of their energy-scarcity-based conditioning:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Where a person’s heart is is all important. Nothing else really matters that much. But those whose hearts are in the right place need help so that they can see the big picture. Once they do that, they see energy’s central role in life on Earth, human civilization, and the unprecedented opportunity that free energy affords us. They can then stop hacking at branches and aim for the root. Not only can we avoid the abyss that we are rushing towards in our uncaring and unthinking ways, but we can also usher in an era that can look a lot like Heaven on Earth.

That is my dream and goal.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
18th July 2012, 15:29
Hi:

I have a little time this morning. As I mentioned earlier, the Great Oxygenation Event was followed by the first great ice age:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=519314&viewfull=1#post519314

Until the Great Oxygenation Event, life had many ways to extract energy from the environment. Today, it is thought that complex cells, eukaryotes, appeared somewhere between 2.7 and 1.6 billion years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eukaryote#Origin_of_eukaryotes

That is a pretty wide range, and reflects the controversies and uncertainties for those distant events. The hydrogen hypothesis is a recent one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_hypothesis

and it states that a hydrogen-dependent archaean enveloped a hydrogen-producing bacterium, and the complex cell was born. Similar envelopment, whether through predation or parasitism, is thought to have led to the nucleus and chloroplast. It is also thought that it took those complex organisms hundreds of millions of years of “experiments” to learn how to tolerate and then take advantage of that waste product of photosynthesis, oxygen. But once oxygenic respiration was adopted by a complex cell, complex life became possible. Oxygenic (AKA “aerobic”) respiration generates about fifteen times the energy that anaerobic respiration and fermentation do, which were the energy generating processes of unicellular life to that time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_respiration#Aerobic_respiration

It was a huge energy advantage, but it took more than a billion years for complex life to dominate the planet. The reasons for that delay are controversial. Some are that constructing complex life forms was a process of trial and error, and the mass extinctions of Canfield oceans and other chemical holocausts wiped out most of the complex life, and it had to start over.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=522316&viewfull=1#post522316

After that first ice age after the Great Oxygenation Event, there was not another ice age for more than a billion years. The second ice age began about 800 million years ago, and it is thought that almost all of Earth’s surface froze:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth

It was when that ice age ended, a little more than 600 million years ago, that complex life made its ascendance. The early complex life forms looked nothing like what lives today. There was nearly a hundred million year period before the Cambrian Explosion that is today called the Ediacaran Period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendian_Biota

The Ediacaran fauna are so alien to our conceptions of animals that there is a great deal of speculation about how they came to be and what happened to them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendian_Biota#Other_interpretations

One of the leading explanations is that the Ediacaran fauna were early experiments in complex life. In the Darwinian framework, it is thought that the Ediacaran fauna were simply no match for what came after it: the animals of the Cambrian Explosion.

In the big picture, life was first chemosynthetic, then photosynthetic. In the early days, there was plenty of energy to go around for the creatures that could harvest it. The most visible life form for billions of years was a mat of cyanobacteria, forming colonies that grew into reef-like formations called stromatolites:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite

They thrived until complex life forms learned how to eat them over a billion years ago. It was the beginning of what we call grazing. The new grazers ate the stromatolites out of existence. Stromatolites exist today in a few extreme environments where grazers cannot survive.

The Ediacaran life forms were so bizarre in comparison to what came after them that scientists are not sure that they can be called animals. They may be intermediaries between plants and animals. The Ediacaran experiment may have led to some of today’s phyla (basic body plans):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylum

but is also surmised that most of the Ediacaran biota were failed experiments in complex life that went extinct with the rise of the animals of the Cambrian Explosion, which began about 540 million year ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian

Virtually all of today’s phyla made their appearance in the Cambrian Period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion

Plants do not need to move to get their food. Sunlight provides the energy, and plants developed roots and other organs to get resources such as carbon and nitrogen. Animals need to move to get their energy, and the Cambrian Period is where predation really took off. The easy days of peaceful photosynthesis and peaceful grazing (at least for the grazers! :)) getting energy were over. Predation was not new to the Cambrian, but the Cambrian fossils give vivid evidence of an arms race between early animal life that was unprecedented.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion#Arms_races_between_predators_and_prey

It was eat or be eaten, with many of the protective and predatory strategies entering the fossil record during the Cambrian. The Ediacaran Period gave evidence that the Cambrian Explosion was not as “explosive” as people like Darwin thought:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion#How_real_was_the_explosion.3F

but the fossil record of animals is so rich in the Cambrian that it is the major line of demarcation of life on Earth, with the Cambrian beginning the eon that we are currently in, called the Phanerozoic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanerozoic

Those trilobites that I read so avidly about as a child:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=514788&highlight=paleontology#post514788

made their appearance in the Cambrian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobite#Origins

Until the Ediacaran Period, the mass extinctions did not leave much evidence in the fossil record, but with the beginnings of the Cambrian Period, the mass extinctions leave a vivid fossil record. There have been about fifteen mass extinction events in the fossil record since the Ediacaran period, and each one of them is what early fossil hunters use to identify the geologic periods. Long before radioactive dating made its appearance, the fossil layers had been given relative dates by lining up the changes in the fossils, and how one was on top of another. When radioactive dating made its appearance, then scientists began putting absolute dates on the fossil beds, and our idea of how old the Earth is began to change. It did not change from the biblical six thousand years to today’s 4.5 billion years overnight. In the 19th century, the absolute age of Earth was thought to be somewhere between 20 and 100 million years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth#Early_calculations

When those early scientists were making their hypotheses, the very idea of a galaxy was only about a hundred years old:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy#Observation_history

The Enlightenment marked a break from the authority of organized religion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

and by the late 19th century, scientists were beginning to become very confident that they were hot on the trail of figuring out all of the universe’s mysteries. Science began acting like a religion itself, with its more established theories given the lofty status of “laws.” There are not really any laws of physics; there are just theories. That there are “laws of physics” is a key indicator of how White Science has painted itself into a corner on many fronts, and why Black Scientists often laugh at White Scientists.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=501338&viewfull=1#post501338

But the best of the White Scientists were a bunch of mystics, and about the time that Einstein appeared on the scene, the giants of physics began to realize that White Science was a long way from figuring out the universe, and likely did not even have the tools to do so. Physicists such as Werner Heisenberg wrote very explicitly on that issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#heisenberg

The enlightenment of the Einsteins and Heisenbergs is notably absent from today’s White Science, with arch atheists such as Sagan and Dawkins holding forth, with Hawking recently dispensing with “god” because the “laws of physics” are sufficient to explain the universe. IMO, those are just Young Souls having their materialistic fun. :)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age

So, while White Science acts like a religion, once in a while an enlightened scientist speaks out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#materialist

but they are few and far between. However, if White Science stays within its current framework and treats its work on evolution as one of history and process, it has many enlightening things to say. And one of its most important messages is that the life game is the energy game above all else. The acquisition, preservation and use of energy is the central dynamic that virtually all theories of evolution revolve around.

Mass extinctions may have had various causes, but the effect that always made species go extinct was their inability to acquire, preserve or use energy. If they were eaten out of existence, they were not able to preserve their energy as their energy became a meal for another life form. If they died of asphyxiation, drought, or even as a result of bolide impact events, it always came down to there not being enough energy to run the organism, either through poisoning the enzymes that made their lives possible, the lives of those they depended on in the food chain, the lack of sunlight to power the ecosystem, Earth becoming too cold to support their biochemical processes, or the lack of oxygen that they used to combust their caloric fuel, and so on. In the end, all death is a cessation of the energy processes of an organism.

Earlier, I posted about how the human brain is an energy hog. Because of that oxygenic respiration, the nervous system is also an oxygen hog. When people die because of asphyxiation, it is because their nervous system dies from a lack of oxygen to fuel the nerve cells. The brain cannot go without oxygen for more than a few minutes before it dies. It is the first to go, that high performance organ.

Virtually all death is an energy death.

That is all for today. It is off to work, but now I will begin to sketch the period of Earth’s history that most think of when they think of evolution, with its rich fossil record. But that period is only a little over ten percent of Earth’s history, and the current theories posit that complex life is already on the decline, largely from carbon starvation. The Age of Animals may only last for a few hundred million more years. Peter Ward suggests that humans learn to manage Earth’s chemical processes, to extend our day in the sun, but that is near the end of this series of posts, so it is a ways off.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
19th July 2012, 15:59
Hi:

I am working the crazy hours at the moment, so I do not have quality writing time available to me, but briefly…

Between the sun’s energy that drives the climate and hydrological cycle, and the radioactivity below Earth’s surface, the key elements that support life are circulated. Water, oxygen, carbon, sulfur, and phosphorus and many trace elements are cycled. Nitrogen and oxygen are the only critical elements that are primarily circulated by life processes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_cycle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_cycle

The other cycles are primarily driven by geophysical processes. Whether the driver is life or geophysics, the Sun’s or Earth’s energy drives them. A chemist of the nineteenth century formulated a “law” that states that life can only grow at the rate of its most restricted nutrient:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_Law_of_the_Minimum

So, when a cycle does not deliver a key nutrient at an adequate level to a biological process, the process will slow down or stop.

As I wrote before, Earth is being slowly carbon starved. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere combines with rainwater to turn granite into limestone and sand, in its most elementary sense. Volcanoes vent that sequestered carbon back to the atmosphere, but carbon has been slowly declining in the atmosphere. Life played a big part in that via photosynthesis, removing carbon from the atmosphere.

Some flowering plants, grasses mainly, developed a more efficient way to acquire carbon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C4_carbon_fixation

but the slow starvation of carbon has done two things over the eons: made Earth colder and reduced Earth’s biomass. Today, it is thought that biomass peaked about a billion years ago, and biodiversity peaked during the Eocene Epoch, that ended about the time that the Antarctic icecap began to form:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene

Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been steadily declining for almost 200 million years, from being ten times higher during the Triassic Period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triassic

carbon dioxide has fallen fairly steadily since then. However, the greatest extinction of complex life ever was the Permian extinction of 250 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event

which has consumed the lives of many scientists in discovering the cause, which may have been a combination of several dynamics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event#Causes_of_the_extinction_event

http://earthsky.org/earth/great-dying-252-million-years-ago-concided-with-co2-build-up

But in the end, at the biological level, life could not obtain the required energy, often by having its enzymes poisoned by a variety of chemical means, but the drop in oxygen that accompanied all of those dynamics may have been the crowning blow, as Peter Ward argues in his Out of Thin Air.

Life just did its thing, trying to survive, often fouling its nest, but sometimes it learned to “eat the garbage” of life, such as the “discovery” of oxygenic respiration. What scientists have been learning is that Earth has undergone wild fluctuations in the chemical makeup of its atmosphere and oceans over the eons, which have at times caused life to flourish, and at others have killed off most life, with life itself sometimes driving the primary dynamic that either encouraged or destroyed life. In that sense, humanity has been no different than the phytoplankton that blooms when a flood of nutrients avalanches into the ecosystem (the dead zones in the oceans are an example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_(ecology), and in its enthusiastic growth as a critical nutrient was delivered, it ended up killing off the entire ecosystem.

Peter Ward and others are beginning to think that humans must become a whole lot smarter and Big-Picture-oriented, so we stop fouling our nest with about as much awareness being demonstrated as phytoplankton does. To that, I will say “Yea verily,” and note that FE can expedite that process like nothing else.

These people mastered the process of living in harmony with the environment, even making it harmonious:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and the loving implementation of FE is obvious throughout their civilization. Ward and friends are almost certainly addicted to the “laws of physics,” so are really no help in overcoming the inertia and organized suppression, and if I got some of his time and helped open his eyes, it would likely risk his life, so I don’t go there. I need to find people who can form the foundation of heart-centered sentience that has always been missing in all FE efforts, but is required for my Level 12 choir idea:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

A few visible “heroes” are not going to get the job done. It is up to the rest of us “little people” to form the critical mass.

Running off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Elly
20th July 2012, 10:35
Hi Wade,

Another element for concern for our oceans under global warming:

The first comprehensive study of changes in the oxygenation of oceans at the end of the last Ice Age (between about 10 to 20,000 years ago) has implications for the future of our oceans under global warming. The study, which was co-authored by Eric Galbraith, of McGill's Department of Earth & Planetary Sciences, looked at marine sediment and found that that the dissolved oxygen concentrations in large parts of the oceans changed dramatically during the relatively slow natural climate changes at the end of the last Ice Age. This was at a time when the temperature of surface water around the globe increased by approximately 2 °C over a period of 10,000 years. A similar rise in temperature will result from human emissions of heat-trapping gases within the next 100 years, if emissions are not curbed, giving cause for concern.

http://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/news/item/?item_id=212872

What is worrying is that, currently, global average temperature is predicted to rise by at least two degrees in the coming century due to climate change. This is of a similar magnitude to the warming the planet has undergone since the last Ice Age 20,000 years ago.

“So we would assume that if, indeed, temperatures are increasing in the next 100 years, these oxygen minimum zones would also increase in volume and that the general oxygen concentration of the ocean will decrease,” Jaccard said.

And what is more: “our analysis has shown that not only was absolute temperature important, but also the rate of change, so the faster the warming, the more expanded these (dead) zones are”.

Oxygen in seawater mainly comes from gas exchange between the water’s surface and the atmosphere. As temperatures at the surface increase, the dissolved oxygen supply below the surface gets used up more quickly. It’s a little like turning down the oxygen pump in a fish tank, says Jaccard.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/science_technology/Oceans_could_run_out_of_oxygen.html?cid=32061254

Wade Frazier
20th July 2012, 14:53
Hi Cara:

Yes, this is one of many fronts where it is ominous. I am not quite through with Ward’s The Medea Hypothesis, but I think that one of his punchlines is coming, which is that when carbon dioxide levels reach 1,000 PPM (which we could hit, especially if we burn all the coal when the oil runs out), it can create a Canfield Ocean and hydrogen sulfide mass extinction event, or release great amounts of methane from the ocean, triggering other catastrophes like a huge greenhouse event.

It is the same litany of warnings that scientists have been making for many years, once the impact of the venting of carbon dioxide from the industrial age was comprehended. Other events such as the ozone layer destruction have been gentle little wakeup calls compared to what may be coming. The USA’s genocidal invasions of Hydrocarbon Country are other grim specters of what may lie ahead. Massive disease epidemics are also predicted with the global warming. Also, violent climate change could easily cause the starvation of billions of people. The four horsemen could easily ride again in the near future. Any White Scientist with a clue can see these things coming.

And FE can make all of those storm clouds disappear almost overnight, and it can be Heaven on Earth time. I was interacting with somebody recently on the awesome frustration and crazy-making situation that we have today. We are rushing towards the abyss on many fronts, and the solution sits there, ignored by almost everybody, and vehemently denied when broached. This situation is what caused people like Brian O to honestly wonder if humanity is really a sentient species:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

I understand.

I’ll have a little time this weekend to get back on the horse of tracing the themes of my upcoming essay. Part of it will be on molecular biology. As I wrote earlier, ATP is the “coin of the realm” of all life on Earth, and scientists have been able to decipher some of the mechanisms that happen at the molecular level. The production of ATP is like a factory. Protons (hydrogen nuclei) get pushed across a membrane, creating the energy potential that drives the life process. Movies have been made of the schematic:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/life-science/metabolomics/learning-center/metabolic-pathways/atp-synthase.html

The protons push a structure that looks kind of like a windmill, and scientists have computed that it takes something like thirteen protons to get the “windmill” to make one revolution. Each human body contains countless trillions of those windmills that power our cells.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
23rd July 2012, 14:50
Hi:

Last week was the 43rd anniversary of the first moon landing, and next week will be the first anniversary of Brian O’s passing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#intro

I miss him. His voice was one of my favorites to listen to, and his message was vital. His last book, The Energy Solution Revolution, really said it. Energy solutions solve virtually all of the big problems that we have, because almost all of our biggest problems are rooted in energy scarcity. I finished Ward’s The Medea Hypothesis recently, and it finished with a call to arms for humanity to intelligently engineer the biosphere. But it takes a lot of energy to make Ward’s vision possible, and the effects of burning fossil fuels are creating the primary pollutant that threatens the stability of Earth’s ecosystems. That conundrum is not lost on people like Ward, but the complete ignorance of radical new ways to produce usable energy is the great blind spot in work like his.

And even though the great energy delivered by burning fossil fuels drove the Industrial Revolution, there has never been enough to go around, so the imperial cultures have actively prevented their subject nations from industrializing. The de-industrialization of Iraq, the siege that Iran finds itself subject to, the immensely corrupt royalty that runs Saudi Arabia, and the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan are all imperial machinations to keep the Euro-American boot on the necks of those people, to keep them down. If they industrialized, they would not have all those hydrocarbons to “sell,” but would use it themselves.

When I read Ward’s “solutions,” or Heinberg’s neo-Malthusian “solutions":

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

or the “let’s ride bikes” answers from the environmentalists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

I want to call their approach, “The Non-Solutions of White Science.” With what I know of FE, their so-called solutions are comprised of a bunch of false choices, rooted in austerity and symptom management, and avoid the root issues. When they make the limiting assumptions of White Science, all that follows is a dreary set of options which usually amount to choosing the lesser of several evils, justifying the exploitation at worst, and at best it comes up with self-flagellating “solutions” that few would have any enthusiasm pursuing, but were coerced to because of austerity, looming environmental collapse, mega-wars, and trying to eke out survival amongst all the grim “choices.” FE makes all of those “choices” seem ludicrous, and the surreal part is that when FE is broached with such people, who say that they seek solutions, they slam the door on the possibility of FE and run the other way as fast as they can, covering their eyes and ears, shrieking. You really have to see it to believe it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

If that bubble is ever popped, among “progressives,” then it will be a downhill racer to FE and Heaven on Earth, but popping the bubble of people’s scarcity-based conditioning is the hard part:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

My upcoming essay is intended to do that, but not very many “progressives” are going to get it. Environmentalists may be among the last to get on the FE train, not the first, as hard as that may be to believe. It is going to be up to very few people, comparatively, to carry that ball to where it can be even seen by the “progressives,” much less the masses. The masses will begin to understand when FE is delivered to their homes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

But onward with my life on Earth narrative.

One of the many mysteries of how complex life on Earth came to be is the 1-2 billion year gap between the appearance of complex cells (eukaryotic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eukaryote ) and the appearance of complex life forms. The first snowball Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth ) followed on the heels of that Great Oxygenation Event ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_catastrophe ), and that was likely not a coincidence. The collision of the continents, the resultant anoxic oceans and the hydrogen sulfide events may have well knocked the evolution of complex life back on its heels repeatedly:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=523407&viewfull=1#post523407

and it was not until another snowball Earth finally receded that the stage was set for complex life to appear. It looks like there was about a hundred million years of complex life in Earth’s oceans before the Cambrian Explosion happened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion

and almost none of the pre-Cambrian complex life survived the end of their day in the sun. That was not all that anomalous, as the mass extinction of complex life would happen several more times in the coming eon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event#Major_extinction_events

From a biochemist’s perspective, while complex life became quite diverse in its shapes and sizes, it completely abandoned the diversity in chemistry that prokaryotic life forms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokaryote ) exhibited, with their many ways to wring energy from their environments. When life became complex, with multicellular life making its appearance, virtually all complex life engaged in oxygenic respiration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_metabolism

and went “all in” with that method of energy generation. It is by far the most energy efficient form of generation known in Earth’s life forms, and it relies on the oxygen generated by oxygenic photosynthesis. That oxygen primarily generated by cyanobacteria created the ozone layer and likely saved Earth’s oceans from being lost to space.

In recent work on determining the levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide levels in Earth’s atmosphere, it turns out that the biggest mass extinctions coincided with oxygen crashes, beginning with the crash that ended the Ediacaran era and preceded the Cambrian Explosion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-Ediacaran_extinction

In his Out of Thin Air, Peter Ward makes the case that those oxygen crashes were responsible for those mass extinctions, and animals that could adapt to lower oxygen conditions thrived in the next era. What seems to have happened, and this has informed evolutionary theory, is that when mass extinctions happened, it spurred evolutionary strategies to adapt to the low oxygen levels. Those that could adapt became new species that then proliferated after the holocausts. When higher oxygen levels reappeared, energy became plentiful and the previously widowed ecosystems filled with new complex life forms, and when oxygen reached its highest levels, the ecosystems became the most complex, although speciation was at its nadir. One of the key tenets of recent evolutionary theory is that energy “funds” complexity. It is the primary thesis of Frank Niele’s Energy: Engine of Evolution, and high oxygen levels (AKA high energy levels) funding the greatest ecosystem diversity (AKA complexity) is one of the hypotheses of Ward’s Out of Thin Air (p. 47).

Ward’s life as a paleobiologist has led him to some Indiana-Jones-ish experiences, and one of his “pet” species is the nautilus, regarding which he is recognized as a world authority. The nautilus has been around since the Cambrian Era:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus#Evolution

and is considered a “living fossil” because almost all of its cousins are extinct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus

Ward believes that the nautilus survived because of its dual-purpose “water jets” that both propel it in the water and force water through its gills, making it a high-performance oxygen extractor. That ability allowed it to survive when almost everything else in the oceans went extinct. The nautilus certainly does not dominate ocean ecosystems, but it is able to exploit a niche along the deep end of coral reefs. They sneak up to the surface at night during new moons when the light is dim, and thereby avoid the many predators that would make short work of them. Living fossils have survived by carving out niches that potential competitors/predators cannot survive in, such as the deep oceanic caves that the coelacanth calls home:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth#Geographical_distribution

They also sneak up to the upper waters at night to feed, while spending their days deep in fringe territory. Similarly, the colonies of cyanobacteria called stromatolites only survive where animals that would graze them cannot survive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite

Living fossils all found a trick that allowed them to survive over the long years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_fossil

while their cousins died off, leaving them virtually alone on their evolutionary tree. They all either found a way to generate energy when little else could, or found ways to avoid becoming an energy source for another creature, or both. Successful ways of acquiring or preserving their energy is what set them apart.

The Cambrian Explosion has been called an arms race, as grazers developed armor and other ways of surviving the predators. Today it is thought that the primary producers had long years of peace and plenty, as they had little competition for energy and nutrients. As energy and (energy-delivered) nutrients became scarce, then grazing animals were born. Then there was a Golden Age of grazers, until they too began to use up the available resources as they ate the stromatolites out of existence. Then some grazers learned how to eat other grazers, and predation was born. In all cases, it is thought that population pressures, as the energy supply was strained, by either events such as oxygen crashes or crowding, that spurred the evolutionary changes that resulted in the diversity that we see today in the animal kingdom. Those that could adapt survived, and those that could not went extinct. Virtually all of the species that ever existed are extinct today, with less than 0.1% of all species that ever existed being alive today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction#Causes

The Cambrian Explosion all happened in the oceans. Most of today’s phyla, or body plans, were established in the Cambrian Era. Bilateral symmetry, eyes, legs, claws, and other aspects of complex life appeared then.

Life had yet to invade land, other than bacterial mats and similar outposts of life along seashores. Before life invaded the continents, they were comprised of rocky granitic sheets that shed rain in braided rivers. The rivers that we are familiar with were created by the roots of plants. Before plants invaded land, the continental rivers were the braided rivers that exist today in the arctic tundra and other extreme environments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braided_river

The Cambrian Era happened exclusively in the oceans, and ended with mass extinction events nearly 500 million years ago,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian-Ordovician_extinction_events

which are thought to be due to an ice age and plunging oxygen levels:

http://park.org/Canada/Museum/extinction/camcause.html

The dip in oxygen was not as great as what lied ahead, but it dipped from today’s 21% to about 17%, which was enough to wipe out most trilobites. The oxygen levels quickly rebounded, and the resulting Ordovician Period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordovician

is when large animals appear in the fossil record.

The Ordovician Period ended about 440 million years ago, with the second greatest mass extinction of complex life yet discovered:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordovician%E2%80%93Silurian_extinction_events#Possible_causes

which coincided with the biggest oxygen crash yet, from about 20% to maybe 14%.

The earliest land plants appeared around 470 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_plant#Rise_of_vascular_plants

and were very similar to the green algae that they evolved from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_alga

vascular plants appeared about 440 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryophyte#Rise_of_vascular_plants

just as the oxygen levels rebounded from the Ordovician Period’s mass extinction. It is thought that vascular plants originally grew upward in order to spread their spores, with photosynthetic competition coming much later. Plants had the land to themselves, spreading across the continents, for tens of millions of years, before animals followed them.

The first land animals were direct descendants of their ocean-dwelling ancestors, and small spiders and scorpions are the earliest land animals that have been found so far in the fossil record, appearing between 420 and 410 million years ago. The earliest land animals coincide with the greatest increase of atmospheric oxygen yet experienced, with oxygen rising to about 25% in the atmosphere a little more than 400 million years ago. Breathing air was a great innovation, but leaving the oceans required radical adaptation by plants and animals. Lungs and tough skin that conserved water were required adaptations, and plants developed tough “hides,” too, to preserve their water.

Ward argues that without the high oxygen levels, complex animals would not have been able to move onto land. Just as land animals were making big strides in establishing themselves on land, the biggest oxygen crash yet, from 25% to about half that,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordovician%E2%80%93Silurian_extinction_events#Possible_causes

ended that migration. The following Devonian Period was characterized by low oxygen levels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devonian

Ward argues that the crash in oxygen levels ended the first wave of migration onto land, which could not begin again until oxygen levels recovered. Low oxygen levels were when complex life had it hard, and innovation in respiration and other survival strategies were their greatest.

There is a gap in the fossil record known as Romer’s Gap:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romer%27s_gap

that Ward places at about 370-335 million year ago (see Out of Thin Air, p. 107), which Ward believes was due to the low oxygen levels of the time. Amphibians did not make their first appearance until about 355 million years ago, but it was not until about 340-330 million years ago that amphibians began to spread, and large animals established a beachhead on land that continues to this day. That successful migration onto land coincided with rapidly rising oxygen levels, which matched today’s 21% at around 340 million years ago, but kept skyrocketing, attaining a level of perhaps 35% around 280 million years ago.

That led to one of the most fascinating periods of land life, and events that have critical importance to today’s world, because that is when the coal beds were laid down. But it is off to work now. It will be a busy next couple of weeks, but I hope to keep this narrative going until we get to the appearance of an ape that left the trees. Then things get really interesting. :)

Best,

Wade

Melinda
23rd July 2012, 20:11
...next week will be the first anniversary of Brian O’s passing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#intro

I miss him. His voice was one of my favorites to listen to...

Mine too. Rest in Peace Brian O. You changed the world with a loving heart, and one day the text books will recognise you as the brave and graceful warrior you were. Thank you for what you did. We were honoured to have you walk among us.

Free energy for all, and for the good of our home planet.

sandy
24th July 2012, 02:48
Brian may be gone in body but his spirit and mission lives on thanks to people such as yourself Wade.

Memories of those we love and have lost are wonderful. As we remember times together, I believe passed spirit energy comes into the PRESENT and we once again experience the love and meaningfulness of our relationship. Oh how gentle and soothing LOVE truly is :)

Yes a year has gone by and it is hard to believe, and I think that time is speeding up as this age comes to an end. Or is it just because I soon will be a certified Senior Citizen :p

Wade Frazier
24th July 2012, 06:35
Hi Sandy:

I’ll be 55 next year, which will entitle me to some gray-haired perks, too. :)

Soon after Brian passed, a message was delivered to me, from a source I respect, that said it was from Brian. The message was “Be careful!” I can conjure up several scenarios that the message may have been referring to, and I have stayed out of trouble in the past year, so maybe I heeded him. And giving me a warning was just what I would expect Brian to do, keeping an eye on things.

I still have some stuff to do with Brian’s legacy, which will take a little while. I won’t patch things up with NASA and Brian, but I am going to see if NASA is interested in making his “last word” on the moon landings more visible:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

Then I need to do battle with people at Wikipedia who have muddied his biography. He was not into “alternative beliefs,” but advocated scientific testing of paranormal phenomenon. That is one of the subtle ways that people have been sullying his legacy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary#Alternative_beliefs

Hi AWP:

If we turn the corner and do FE, history will be kind to his memory, if I have anything to do with it.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th July 2012, 06:54
Hi:

I don’t want to sound too much like a broken record, but lately I have been getting hit with questions like,

“Let’s build an FE machine in our garage.”

“My community is having energy problems. What can we do locally to solve our energy problems?”

“I saw a documentary on how the electric car was suppressed. How can they do that?”

And this is not from forums like Avalon, but people in my daily life. It seems to be my fate to constantly field such questions. At this time, there are no local FE solutions feasible on Earth. The forces arrayed against FE appearing on the scene, Godzilla by no means the only obstacle, ensure that no local effort can succeed. There is no place on the planet to hide and do it. If a hundred saints and a thousand almost-saints got together someplace with unity of purpose, then yes, it might have a prayer, but I have never heard of such a gathering. Stuff like TED is show business for the elites, not even remotely close to having the right stuff to begin such an effort.

Those are all square one questions. My goal, when I get the conversation going, is to take it far above those introductory questions. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
25th July 2012, 07:16
Wade, that's not really square one, more like 1.5 perhaps :) ?

At least people are waking up to the fact that there IS a problem and FE energy can fix it.

I've recently watched a Stan Deyo interview talking about Free Energy and "electro-gravitics" and all kinds of tech kept under wraps. This goes along the line of knowing that technology is not a problem any more... and it has not been for a long time...

But where the interview gets really annoying is when Stan Deyo presents that "White Hats" justification of why we don't have free energy today. In his view, the only problem is how to let people know without creating havoc and causing economy to collapse. And in case we did not get it, he even has an example: the petroleum industry! :) Once Free Energy gets out, that particular industry branch (and connected branches) would collapse! Just imagine the disaster, the economical problems we would face with so many unemployed people, that need to retrain themselves to work in some other industrial branch. So then, until there is a way to smooth things out, FE will be kept secret. One way to do it is to force one world government, (via an external threat, possible ET false invasion), and that one world government (created from a fear response) will have the power to slowly roll out the new energy sources w/o major disruptions in the system...

This kind of logic drives me crazy. At least he got one thing right: Free Energy is a very disruptive piece of technology!

Wade Frazier
25th July 2012, 07:41
Hi Ilie:

Yes, those 1.5 questions at least see energy as an issue, and it gives me great patience training! :) Last night I watched that Batman Dark Knight movie. I don’t even want to comment on the mass murder that accompanied a showing of it last week, other than to say that I live in a very sick nation. That movie’s theme was turning a new energy source (OK, nuclear fusion is not so new :) ) into a bomb. This is becoming a common enough theme anymore. I wonder if there is more to it than meets the eye, and not necessarily in a good way, kind of like portraying ETs as a menace to Earth.

Back in my early days with Dennis, when I was his junior partner, it was quite a heady time before they dropped the sledgehammer on us. We had talks about those kinds of “White Hat” justifications that are really suave Black Hat justifications. It is always easier to sell self-interest when it is couched in just trying to make everything better for everybody. In Washington State, they actually “gave” forests to school districts, so that their funding comes from raping the forests, to “help” the children. They sold the lottery in California long ago the same way, saying that the proceeds go to schools. Evil stuff.

People like Deyo drank the Kool-Aid, and he probably believes that kind of “reasoning” – I saw it with scientists and engineers all the time, with their extremely blinkered view of political-economic dynamics:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

For how “smart” they supposedly are, they sure have a narrow view of how the world works and can work. It is like their emotional maturity and understanding of the human condition is stunted. The “skeptics” are like that, with the emotional maturity of adolescent boys seeming to be on the high end of their functioning spectrum, when they aren’t being actively dishonest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

This is all part of the conundrum. The most common reaction from the “smart” when they first hear about FE is to do the Level 3 “it is impossible, and a conspiracy theory,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

and if they quickly feign considering whether FE was real, they immediately do a Level 5, “We would wreck the planet with FE” (or collapse the economy, etc.)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

and then they run away as fast as they can. To protect their conscience, they usually retreat back to Level 3, and they surround themselves with their “rational” armor against abundance and hunker down, and they don’t want to hear about FE again, and can have very violent reactions to the idea of FE. Bizarre. It took me many years to begin to understand those kinds of reactions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

All of those “reasonable” reactions have fear at their root. It is another aspect of love being the answer.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Elly
25th July 2012, 10:42
Hi Wade,

When I was in college learning about history and political systems (imperialism, communism, fascism, etc.), I ended up thinking that the capitalist one, with its improvements but still its nonsense (inequalities, abuses, power struggles, etc.) might not be the best and ultimate system. Within a system which provides many perks, it is very hard to see otherwise, that something totally different could exist. And you are right, fear (of loosing, of being alone) is at the base of this. I believe that to accept something transformative for humanity, the mind has to be open to the idea that we are not defined by the recognized rules within our system, that alternatives are acceptable, inevitable. A system that has to tie with our core universal human values. This yearning has to be stronger than the fear.

Wade Frazier
25th July 2012, 15:38
Hi Cara:

I agree. For about the past ten years, I have been saying that my primary goal is making FE thinkable:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm

Dennis named his heat pump “The Alternative.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

The capitalist conceit is letting customers choose whatever is on the menu. It is just that the menu only has one item on it. That is called a “free market.” :) It is like having two hand-picked candidates for president being called a "democracy." There has never been a democracy or a free market. They are useful herd-management fictions, however, providing the illusion of freedom.

In a world of scarcity, people are governed by fear. All of the dominant ideologies are scarcity-based:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

and there is always a stick that comes with the carrot. The sticks can be subtle, but they are always there. Calling capitalism the “free” system is a huge lie.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#colonialism

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#capitalism

Capitalism acts like it is all carrot, but it uses more sticks than any of the others. It is just that its sticks are dismissed as “conspiracy theories” and other epithets (or called bringing "freedom" to Iraq - all that we liberated was their oil). The American propaganda system is the world’s subtlest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

with most of its chumps believing that it produces the “truth.” They are not that fooled, however:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/15/considering-the-obvious/

Yes, we have to want the positive future; it certainly is not going to fall in our laps, and if we pursue it from fear, it will turn out badly.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
26th July 2012, 15:36
Hi:

I have been too busy lately to write much, but I am getting back to that life narrative. Briefly this morning….

Enlightened scientists will say that the story that their investigations tell is about process and history, not intent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#materialist

The mystical student generally learns that all the various life forms that have inhabited Earth had a purpose of existence, and it was the development of consciousness. Mystical sources say that there are not human souls, nor dog souls, nor frog souls, but souls that choose to express themselves as those species. Michael says that even atoms have personalities.

While there is a bigger picture of the intent that is supposedly behind the thrust of life on Earth, it is also true that everything that lives tries to stay alive. That is part of the deal. We all need to eat, and we do. We all die when our bodies’ processes fail. Scientists have documented about fifteen mass extinction episodes during the eon of complex life. They all had physical causes. The play of consciousness continues, no matter the life form. But when a mass extinction happened, it was because Earth became hostile to the existing life forms. Those that could adapt to the changing conditions survived the extinction episodes, and often ended up dominating the next phase of life on Earth.

As Peter Ward made the case in his Out of Thin Air, the biggest mass extinctions usually happened when oxygen levels crashed. In the era of complex life, which is all based on oxygenic respiration because of its superior energy generation capabilities, those that could adapt to the low oxygen conditions the best survived. It was not always low oxygen, as with the Cretaceous extinction which ended the reign of the dinosaurs, setting the stage for mammals, but it was still an extinction that came from low energy availability, as the bolide event caused a “nuclear winter” that wiped out most life. And if it was a hydrogen sulfide event, which was precipitated because of low-oxygen (anoxic) oceans, at the animal level, it was still an energy death, as the hydrogen sulfide poisons the process of cellular respiration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_sulfide#Toxicity

Cut off the energy supply, and life dies. Similar to what the neo-Malthusians advocate:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

After those mass extinctions, there could be low-oxygen eras following. As Ward made the case:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=526024&viewfull=1#post526024

the crashing oxygen levels of about 400 million years ago essentially ended the first attempt of animals to migrate to land. The Devonian Period was largely devoid of land-based vertebrates, after some success when oxygen levels peaked. The Devonian oxygen crash bottomed about 370 million years ago, coinciding with one of the Big Five mass extinctions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Devonian_extinction

Anoxic oceans accompanied that mass extinction. When there is a mass extinction in the oceans from anoxia, the sea floor is covered with dead life that does not decay, and the Devonian extinction formed some of the key oil deposits that are burned in the USA today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale_geology#Formations_in_the_United_States

The end of the Devonian began Romer’s Gap, which coincided with low oxygen levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romer%27s_gap

Ward argues that Romer’s Gap was due to the low oxygen levels, which terminated the first migration to land. Only when oxygen levels rose again could animals resume their conquest of land. At the end of the Devonian, oxygen levels were about 12-14% - about half of what they were about 420 million years ago, when the first animal migrations to land began.

The other key atmospheric gas whose concentrations had direct impact on life was carbon dioxide, which was the key greenhouse gas. Over the past 500 million years, carbon dioxide levels have been largely inversely-correlated with oxygen levels, and when oxygen levels began to rise 360 million years ago after the Devonian extinction, carbon dioxide levels crashed, which initiated one of the great ice ages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoo_Ice_Age

At the same time, and not coincidentally, plants developed the polymer lignin. Lignin is what allows trees to grow tall. Before lignin appeared, plants could not grow tall, relying on water pressure to keep them upright. Lignin created an “arms race” among plants, and whoever grew the tallest got the most light. Lignin is what makes plants “woody.” Also, it is today thought that lignin outran the ability of other creatures to digest it. When trees died for tens of millions of years, they did not decay, because nothing could eat them. There was a mass of trees on top of trees, forming great piles of dead, non-decaying trees. That period is what formed Earth’s coal deposits:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboniferous#Rocks_and_coal

Earth’s coal deposits forming during ice ages, and its oil deposits forming during extinction events, is kind of ironic. Those events are what ended up fueling the industrial age hundreds of millions of years later. Those oil and coal deposits are non-renewable resources in their strongest sense. The conditions that formed the coal beds will likely never happen again, and there has not been much oil bed formation lately. Some oil beds began forming 500 million years ago, and have been forming as recently as 20 million years ago, but the geological processes that create the oil that we burn with such abandon today happen over many millions of years. We will run out of oil in my lifetime, and anybody wanting to wait until Earth serves up more needs to have millions of years of patience. :)

I have to run off to work, but I plan to get this narrative going again. It will form the rough outline of my upcoming essay.

Best,

Wade

Dennis Leahy
26th July 2012, 16:25
Hi:

I don’t want to sound too much like a broken record, but lately I have been getting hit with questions like,

“Let’s build an FE machine in our garage.”

“My community is having energy problems. What can we do locally to solve our energy problems?”

“I saw a documentary on how the electric car was suppressed. How can they do that?”

And this is not from forums like Avalon, but people in my daily life. It seems to be my fate to constantly field such questions. At this time, there are no local FE solutions feasible on Earth. The forces arrayed against FE appearing on the scene, Godzilla by no means the only obstacle, ensure that no local effort can succeed. There is no place on the planet to hide and do it. If a hundred saints and a thousand almost-saints got together someplace with unity of purpose, then yes, it might have a prayer, but I have never heard of such a gathering. Stuff like TED is show business for the elites, not even remotely close to having the right stuff to begin such an effort.

Those are all square one questions. My goal, when I get the conversation going, is to take it far above those introductory questions. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade
The window motor on the driver's-side door of my car is broken - no energy flowing through it - can you fix it for me?

hehehehehe Yes, Wade, I suspect you'll always get questions from everyone, from mundane to sophisticated, related or merely tangential to the encyclopaedic subject of "energy", but that are not within your goals. You got where you are after decades of deep thought and experience, (and some traumatic experience) - there's no way for most to catch-up, but those who are sincere can catch-on. At least people are recognizing you as "an energy guy", and the world will be a better place if they get directed to educational material by you, rather than someone with low integrity or a lack of understanding of the scarcity gambit.

Many in the world are burning twigs or dung for energy, wondering only if they will find more twigs and dung tomorrow. Many flip the light switch and don't think about the myriad ramifications of the energy scarcity game at all, and may never - until and unless they are heavily, negatively, personally impacted.

Perhaps you could produce a pamphlet-sized cluster of paragraphs that succinctly encapsulates the current state of energy energy paradigm change impasse, and point those folks to further reading. If they refuse to even read that, suggest that they may want to change the batteries in their TV remote control, and walk away. Your mission must not be diluted or sidetracked.

Love ya, bro!

Dennis

Ilie Pandia
27th July 2012, 03:12
It seems to me that life evolving to the stage of Free Energy is the required step to get out of the away of another mass extinction :)

Once free energy is publicly available and used properly it will truly unlock our evolution as a species in cooperation with the environment (and not at the expense of it), but a mass extinction event will become very unlikely if not impossible.

I can hardly wait to get to the human part of the story :biggrin:

I've been watching some Star Trek lately and there is something I cannot wrap my mind around. Obviously the various races and wars of conquest in the series are a reflection of the current state of affairs on Earth, but projected at the Federation Level. But what I am wondering is: are galactic wars really a possibility? To travel that far would imply that you have discovered Free Energy, and with Free Energy there is no competition. Why would you wage war then? It's unbelievable in the show how different factions are ready to start a major scale war over a tiny planet when there are so many planets out there! And the idea of borders and the neutral zone seems so ridiculous :biggrin: (Reminds me of someone saying that this is like dogs pissing around to mark their turf). I highly doubt that this is the way you conduct yourself as a galactic race, even thought there is a lot of material here on Avalon and elsewhere, suggesting that "space wars" are in fact a reality... How far do you need to go until you get it that you don't need to make war any longer!?

Wade Frazier
27th July 2012, 04:37
Hi Dennis and Ilie:

It is a pleasure to hear from you both on the same day. Damn, Dennis, your former picture made you look like one of the Beach Boys playing a tune, and you current one is an example of what choirboys look like when they go gray. You write and appear almost too wholesome for words. :)

Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried to meet new readers halfway, in several of my more recent essays:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm

I may do more in that direction one day, but after I lay that big egg of an essay. One of my friends, who was a star Silva instructor, told me about what Jose did in his public work. He basically repeated a few key Silva Method ideas to his audience, the vast majority of whom had never even heard of meditation. His public work was a constant drumbeat of the most basic ideas, introducing people to ideas that were completely new to them. He demonstrated the patience of Job. It was undoubtedly good work, but I shudder to think that it ends up being my fate on the FE issue, repeating Square One ideas all day long.

As you know, I am trying to raise the energy conversation to a level where the energy issue will be understood to be so central to the human journey, and the potential of abundant clean energy so monumental, that people will continue to think about it, discuss it at a high level, and if enough people can keep their eye on the ball, it may catalyze something. Even if it does not, it will be a discussion that really has not happened before. It should interesting, if nothing else.

Hi Ilie:

I was watching a video of Uncle Noam recently, and he said that he doubted that we would wipe ourselves out as a species in the near future, but that we could make it so bad that many of us would wish we were dead. Peter Ward thinks that if we keep on burning prodigious amounts of hydrocarbons until we use up all the oil, coal and other fossil-based hydrocarbons, at around 1,000 PPM of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, we could well trigger a catastrophe where we get a Canfield Ocean and hydrogen sulfide event, wipe out the ozone layer or some other such joy, and truly make Earth inhabitable.

Ward’s theories, like many on the cutting edge of the multidisciplinary synthesis that has been forming in recent years between climate scientists and paleobiologists, are subject to a great deal of debate. But what is not deniable is that the past 500 million years has seen more than a dozen mass extinction events that were likely brought on by chemical imbalances that had various authors, some of which were life itself, such as the Great Oxygenation Event. What is also undeniable is that no animal has ever altered Earth’s surface and atmosphere as abruptly as humans have, and the final outcome, if we go about our lives with no more foresight than cyanobacteria do, may be catastrophic, of the ecosphere-threatening variety. Scientists already call the Age of Man the sixth great extinction event:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

If we take a mystical view of the galactic situation, for those on the dark path:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

there can never be enough power over others, and the darkest of the dark all want to be the Emperor of the Universe. On this planet, if you meet everybody’s immediate material needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter, and meet minimum social infrastructure needs such as communication, transportation and education, so that everybody could live like Bill Gates does today (easy with FE and attendant suppressed technologies that exist today, not even thinking about the stuff that makes this world feasible: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1), you would likely not get many, if anybody, to salute flags and march off to war, to satisfy the evil proclivities of the dark pathers. If they held a war, nobody would show up. That world would look so different than today’s world that people have a hard time even imagining it. So, yes, there have likely been interstellar wars, as insane as that might seem. Some may seem reasonable, such as home planets becoming uninhabitable, and just a few star systems over is a suitable planet, if they just wipe out the aboriginal inhabitants first. I would not be surprised to learn that galactic versions of what the Europeans did to the American Indian:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before

have played out in the past, if planets or star systems lost their inhabitability, through just “nature” or species-level stupidity. But if FE was done wisely, that should not have been an issue. I really think that harnessing FE and rising to an enlightened perspective are connected, not the least of which is my suspicion that the ZPF may be divine in nature.

More to write, but time to go play husband.

Love and peace,

Wade

Wade Frazier
27th July 2012, 16:07
Hi:

OK, a little more this morning on the life narrative. As I have mentioned on my site writings and on this thread, the effects of scarcity can be insidious. When studying the history of science, and I mean going back to the Greeks, the pioneers often suffered greatly at the hands of their “peers,” as all the new breakthroughs challenged the orthodoxies of the day. Religion is the same way; Jesus and Buddha were radicals, challenging the hegemony of the religious establishment. In fact, in a world of scarcity, all areas of human endeavor are that way, as everybody digs in, as they hang their hats on what feeds them. The battles can be bitter. The history of medicine is filled with it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#real

and the purer sciences are far from immune. In Peter Ward’s books, he writes very engagingly about life as a scientist. His field work gave him many Indiana Jones moments, one of which crippled him, as he got the bends when trying to save an assistant who passed out 200-feet down. Close encounters with hungry bears and sharks, falling off of cliffs as he hunted fossils, almost being decapitated by helicopter blades as he was unloaded onto a remote island, and many other adventures attended his fieldwork over his storied career. But it sometimes seemed that the biggest dangers came from his colleagues, as they battled over their pet theories.

Ward is far from alone in writing about the battles that scientists have. The truth can get trampled as scientists vie for priority. Getting papers published, winning awards, and having their theories become the new orthodoxy means promotions, funding, and comfy emeritus years in pipe-smoking splendor. And when you get into anthropology, you are also dealing with the collective human ego, so there can even be more distortion. In Almost Chimpanzee, there is a great quote from Victoria Horner, a researcher on chimpanzee culture, who said:

“In anthropological terms culture is the human niche. These things are so exclusive from the get go. If we want to understand our place in the animal kingdom, we need to understand that the chimp/human border is so slim. Culture is just the next step. At what point are people going to give in and say, ‘Yes, we are apes’? And be able to handle that? Darwin’s famous quote is that it’s a difference of degree, not of kind. People are just hell-bent on it being a difference of kind.”

Horner’s quote lays bare one of the common and ingrained conceits of anthropology. So, we get the bias of humanity’s egocentric self-image, reinforced by religious tales (humans given dominion over Earth in Genesis), nationalistic tales (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#weems ), and so on. White Science at least has the ideal of being able to independently reproduce results. And the findings of many disciplines have been coming together in my lifetime, and they have interlocked to form robust datasets that are not easily challenged. One example is carbon dioxide levels over the ages. The latest data was developed by chemical sampling of strata layers and computer modeling. After the data was published, it was confirmed by studies of fossil stomata. Plants develop more stomata in lower carbon dioxide conditions. Absolute radioactive dating has points of alignment with observed dynamics happening today, such as the “snail trail” of mountains left in the wake of the hot spot that gave birth to the Hawaiian Islands:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_%E2%80%93_Emperor_seamount_chain

If we are aware of the limits of science, which people such as Carl Sagan were often oblivious to:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

it has many valid things to say within its framework, and while scarcity and the human ego have been formidable obstacles in the quest for truth, at least digging for fossils has not yet yielded billion-dollar offers to stop digging:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

Studying ancient fossils is fairly free of the vested interests that dominate the world economy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#_edn2

so, it is one of the purer sciences. But it still always pays to be wary. With those caveats, let’s continue.

When oxygen levels crashed in the Devonian Extinction Event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Devonian_extinction

carbon dioxide levels were some fifteen times higher than today’s. It was a hot world, although an ice age had ended sixty million years previously:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andean-Saharan

Ice ages sequester oceans on land, and the sea levels fall. The rising and falling oceans had dramatic effects on weathering (removing carbon from the atmosphere by the granite-to-sand-and-limestone dynamic mentioned earlier http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=523971&viewfull=1#post523971 ), creating shallow seas for life form havens, and then draining them; those dynamics had large effects on life and evolution.

After the Devonian mass extinction, those new life forms, trees, took over. That new polymer, lignin, did not biodegrade, and it formed the coal deposits that we are burning today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboniferous#Rocks_and_coal

There was an interplay happening with ice sheets, the variable sea level, the increased weathering and sequestering carbon in the forming coal beds, and it led to an unprecedented outcome: a radical increase in oxygen levels. Oxygen levels may have reached 35% in the Carboniferous Period, which has never been achieved since. In fact, today’s oxygen levels are likely the highest that they have been since that high-oxygen era.

The larger the animal, the safer it is from predation, which is thought to be at least partly why animals grew large. At the end of the Cambrian Period, in the oceans, there was an arms race between the shelled animals, with shells up to thirty feet long. Now that animals were moving onto land, and oxygen levels skyrocketed due to that confluence of events, something appeared on the scene that has not been seen since: gigantic insects and other creatures, some seemingly out of arachnophobic nightmares:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboniferous#Terrestrial_invertebrates

with fifty-pound, three-foot-long scorpions and amphibians that were nearly twenty feet long:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboniferous#Tetrapods

The swamps of the Carboniferous Period were something to behold, a completely alien world, suitable to the exotic planets that Captain Picard and his crew might visit. During the Carboniferous Period, which lasted about sixty million years, carbon dioxide levels eventually crashed to modern levels, about 300 million years ago, which began the Permian Period.

During that period of skyrocketing oxygen levels, reptiles first appeared about 320 million years ago. They were a marked divergence from their amphibian ancestors, with different reproductive strategies, and they were able to make a break from water that would set the stage for their future dominance. But the biggest extinction that we know of lied ahead, and I will get to that soon, but I have to rush off to work. More later.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
28th July 2012, 19:11
So many twists and turns in the evolution of this planet. it seems like every few hundreth milion of years something new appears out of nowhere : ) either, a different condition to the earth atmosphere, a new component that help tree's grow to a height or a new species appear like the reptiles. Where does it all come from, is what I would like to know. is it a random devlopment resulting from the conditions of the surface or are those conditions the result of something more sophisticated? God has all the answers, but god's presence yet needs to be lab proved : ) and if it's up to our scientists, preferably with some personal measurments :-) well, I hope a little teasing do no harm.

Wade, why do you feel that ancient fossils study is not forming any threat to those who would like to limit our knowledge? is it because there is no money risks involved?

Ilie, I resonate with your passing thoughts about the galactic wars, well, it might be naive of us to think that we have invented the wheel.

Wars between planets are sure to exist, our current earth situation is probably a result of one of those. Marduk, Enky and Enlil simply brought here what already existed somewhere else, but that is probably another subject for a different discussion thread. if free energy exists and implemented, and life is not revolved around scarcity to its various kinds, than what are the battles about? It is about ego, control domination and ownership.

It could have been nice if those were in scarcity! It seems that spirituall evolvment is always the answer, and those kind of worlds are there as well. galactic wars have nothing to do with weapons, it probably has a great deal to do with mind control. battles via the mind. mind is the greatest weapon, the greatest creator and the greatest destroyer, and we earthlings, are only beggining to find out about it. but, yes, it will be nice to get to know a spiritually evolved physical place on our realm that will be an example for us. we are probably not inventing the wheel on this one as well :)


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Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "The mystical student generally learns that all the various life forms that have inhabited Earth had a purpose of existence, and it was the development of consciousness. Mystical sources say that there are not human souls, nor dog souls, nor frog souls, but souls that choose to express themselves as those species. Michael says that even atoms have personalities"

I have recently watched a google video - "The illusion of reality" (http://www.hemuz.org/SCIENCE/The-illusion-of-reality) By Professor Jim Al-Khalili, at the end of it, he says pretty much the same thing , using different words:

" what fascinating to me is that, although, we've learned an incredible amount of our atoms and their behaviour, our scientific journey has only just began, because, although we know how a single atom or just a few atoms behave, the way trillions of them come together in concert to create the world around us, it is still largely a mystery.

To give you one dramatic example: the atoms that make up my body are identical to the atoms in the rocks, the trees, the air, even the stars. and yet, they come together to create a conscious being who can ask this question :
What is an atom?

Explaining all that is surely the next great challenge in science".


Blessings,

~^&*~^&*

Limor

Wade Frazier
28th July 2012, 20:26
Hi:

During the Carboniferous Period, when the coal beds were laid down, great swamps dominated the ecosystems. The high oxygen would have encouraged forest fires in those new ecosystems called forests. The swampiness helped keep fires down. Ward argues in his Out of Thin Air that without the high oxygen of the Carboniferous Period, sea animals would not have been able to colonize land. Part of that to do with the many adaptations needed for sea animals to become land animals. One was the issue of locomotion. The amphibians and early reptiles had their legs splayed out to their sides. That configuration meant that they could not breathe and run at the same time. That led to all the early land predators becoming ambush predators, relying on surprise to capture their prey, because they could not run for more than a few seconds before they had to stop to breathe. Today, the Komodo dragon epitomizes that early limitation; it can only run for thirty feet before it has to stop to breathe. Because they could not breathe and exert at the same time, they also had no reason to increase their metabolisms to become high performance creatures. A car with a high performance engine with a low performance drive train would go no faster than the drive train could, so a high performance engine does not make sense unless there is a high performance drive train. And a high performance car is useless on a dirt road full of potholes. It is kind of back to Liebig’s Law, where the scarcest nutrient in the growth equation sets the growth limit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_Law_of_the_Minimum

It is similar to a “critical path” in an industrial process. The process can only go as fast as the slowest part can go. Bottlenecks in production slow everything down. Supposedly blind evolution prevented any part from becoming a bottleneck forever (those that did went extinct), as organisms became more efficient, which always meant energy efficient, the end.

Somewhere during the Carboniferous Period, around 340-320 million years ago, reptiles appeared, diverging from their amphibian ancestors. The great innovation that allowed reptiles to break from the water in a way that amphibians could not was the development of the amniotic egg, which did not need to be laid in water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amniote

One of Ward’s hypotheses in Out of Thin Air is that the high oxygen content of the Carboniferous Period is what allowed amniotic eggs to develop, and high oxygen may have also led to live births.

The new reptiles diverged into three main stocks early on:

the diapsids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diapsid

anapsids, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anapsid

and synapsids: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synapsida, which led to mammals.

The ice age that the crashing carbon dioxide levels precipitated brought an end to the Carboniferous Period about 300 million year ago. The drying world ended the swampy conditions that favored amphibians, and the rise to dominance of reptiles began:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboniferous_Rainforest_Collapse#Vertebrates

The period after the collapse of the Carboniferous rainforests is called the Permian, which lasted for about 50 million years, to about 250 million years ago. During the Permian, the ancestors of mammals, the synapsids, were the dominant reptile, with the Dimetrodon being the Permian’s signature reptile:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimetrodon

That big fin on its back was for temperature regulation. During the Permian, there were no endothermic animals. Everything was cold-blooded. Being cold-blooded conserves energy. A warm-blooded animal consumes between five and fifteen times as much energy at rest as a cold-blooded one. Although the Carboniferous extinction wiped out most amphibians, oxygen levels kept rising, until it peaked in the mid-Permian, at between 30% and 35%. Then it began a steep slide that mirrored the rise of the early Carboniferous, and crashed to about 15% at the end of the Permian. Not coincidentally, it coincided with the greatest mass extinction yet recorded during the time of animals, with about 96% of marine life forms and 70% of land vertebrates going extinct, and it is the only known mass extinction of insects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event

My beloved trilobites lived their last during the Permian extinction, ending a run of nearly 300 million years on Earth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobite

The cause of the oxygen crash is thought to be two-fold. The first was that about 300 million years ago the continents completed their 500 million cycle of breaking apart and coming back together, and the great continent called Pangaea was formed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea

One supercontinent uplifted many of the low-lying sedimentary basins and swamps, so they could no longer support that mass burial of plants that characterized the Carboniferous, which removed carbon from the atmosphere. Also the mass extinction that marked the end of the Carboniferous meant that there was also less plant life to bury, and less plant life to produce oxygen. Also, the creation of Pangaea led to a Canfield Ocean, because there were no continents to obstruct the flow of surface waters from the equator to the poles, which in turn create ocean currents, which in turn oxygenate the oceans like they do today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermohaline_circulation

So, Earth’s ocean during the Pangaea era became a pond instead of rivers of currents that mixed oxygen into the water. That situation killed off all deep sea life, and microbes that had been forced into the margins due to the Great Oxygenation Event thrived in the newly anoxic oceans, and the anoxic part kept growing, right up to the surface. When even the shallow seas became anoxic, photosynthetic, anaerobic bacteria thrived:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_sulfur_bacteria

and the resultant hydrogen sulfide event may have triggered the mass extinction that followed. That is Ward’s thesis,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_Hypothesis

but there is still plenty of controversy around it. The hydrogen sulfide would have killed any animal that contacted much of it, on land or in the water, and it could have also damaged the ozone layer. There is evidence of ozone layer destruction during the Permian extinction, but the cause is still disputed.

One of the primary purposes of this narrative is to make clear how much life was subject to the Earth’s changing chemistry, which was impacted by the position of the continents, what life was adding to the atmosphere, whether it was oxygen or hydrogen sulfide, and animals that could not adapt to the new conditions went extinct. Hot, wet, dry, cold, low oxygen, high oxygen, ultraviolet light, available nutrients such as carbon, phosphorus and nitrogen, these were all factors in what kind of life the environment could support. Even today, humanity is subject to these constraints and, as with the oxygenation or hydrogen sulfide events, humanity is altering Earth’s chemistry. Increased carbon dioxide and methane, and the acid rain that comes from sulfurous and nitrous oxide emissions, deforestation and the great erosion attending today’s human activities (about a quarter of Earth’s topsoil has been lost since 1945), these all have an impact on Earth’s chemical systems, and are greatly impacting the ecosystems. Already, mollusks in the Arctic are going extinct because the acidifying ocean is literally melting their shells from their backs. Glorious reefs that Ward performed research in thirty years ago have already been destroyed by global warming and oceanic acidification, in what is known as coral bleaching:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_bleaching

We are already fifty thousand years into the sixth mass extinction event, and it is totally human-caused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Megafauna extinctions also happened in Africa and Asia, but those animals evolved alongside humans and learned to avoid them, so their human-caused-extinctions were more modest than the poor creatures who had no experience with the fire-and-weapon-bearing bipedal super-predators. The human-caused extinctions began in earnest in Australia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

and has been ongoing ever since.

Humans wiped out nearly all the megafauna for energy reasons, and that will become clearer when I get to the human part of this tale. Before humans appeared, it was still an energy game for life on Earth. All cosmology, geophysics, biochemistry, and evolution is investigated in a matter and energy framework by today’s scientists, and since matter is just an energy configuration, it is appropriate to say that those sciences are all performed within the energy framework. As I will make the case later, the same goes for human social organization, economics, and politics. The animal needs of humans need to be met before all else, and that is all about the acquisition, preservation and consumption of energy. But, I get ahead of myself.

Off to weekend chores, but I will try to make another post this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
29th July 2012, 13:07
Hi Limor:

On the fossils, yes, no rackets that I know of are immediately impacted by the discovery of old fossils. There have been works, such as Forbidden Archeology, that argue for hundred million year old human footprints, but the evidence is pretty weak, IMO. I have never heard of a dig being classified. For human-related fossils, this is an area with plenty of chaff perpetrated by amateurs, such as Piltdown Man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

And in the professional archeologist area, there has been controversy over human fossils, and misconduct and dogma:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#_edn39

as with any field. So, with the human fossils, it can be more highly charged, with the investment in the human ego, such as that reluctance to admit that we are apes, and there have been many bitter battles over the extinctions, but eventually the evidence has won out. There have been many radical changes in the prevailing theories over the years, as new evidence has come to light, and new interpretations. That goes for anthropology, too. Eventually, the evidence prevails. There is plenty that the evidence will always be thin for, such as how early humans thought, although their tools can tell us a lot, and there is plenty that the evidence can still tell us.

Until the ETs are able to come into the open, there is plenty about the universe and our past for which our theories are likely highly inadequate. The ETs will be likely able to tell us a lot about our past, if the universe is really expanding in Big Bang fashion, and so on. With just what I know is suppressed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I know that our physics texts are woefully inadequate. Again, when technologies and discoveries run afoul of the rackets, then look out. Patents get classified, inventors get bought out or wiped out, etc. I have not heard any of those kinds of rumors in archeological circles, other than fringe New Agey claims without a shred of evidence to back them up, or exposed as hoaxes.

I think I’ll have time for another post before the day is over, but I am going hiking with my wife soon.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th July 2012, 03:17
Hi:

Today is the one-year anniversary of Brian O’s death. What a great blessing it was to have known him. One of my legacy tasks is to get his date of death corrected. The people who reported it got it wrong. If I can get it changed at the NASA site:

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/oleary-bt.html

then I can get it changed elsewhere. It is similar to how I did his NASA biography first, before braving the waters at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary

I have some battles to fight there and elsewhere that I am not looking forward to, but I’ll try to get them done in the next year. That apparent attack by the military:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

took the wind out of Brian’s sails and shortened his life. I am trying to do my work in a way where I don’t meet a similar fate, which is common at the high levels of the free energy game. I am aiming for a lower profile, where I am not seen as somebody that they need to take out. Time will tell, and what I end up doing in the near future will likely either attract that wrong kind of attention, or I might end up being left alone. The goal is to get the nugget built so that I am obsolete to the process. That is probably wishful thinking, and I know others who have tried that path, but it is not easy to do. But what I am trying to accomplish, ideally, will set the conversation on a course where it will be difficult to derail. It will be up to my audience/participants, not me, in the end. All I can do is try to chart the course.

Lately, I have been getting hit with Mills and his hydrino efforts. Mills theories are one of many with variations of quantum theory, along the ZPF end of things, and Brian O was involved with Mills at one time, maybe right to the end. You can see that Mills is trying the inventor/capitalist route:

http://www.blacklightpower.com/

which I consider to be a dead-end. While I really have no idea if the technology will work like Mills hopes it will, the Wikipedia treatment is standard for stuff like that, calling it BS in the introduction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight_Power

As I have written plenty, anything really good is taken out of circulation almost immediately, so when I see waves made by people like Mills, I get skeptical and am not too interested.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=514878&viewfull=1#post514878

That situation with inventors trying to scale the ramparts will likely dog me for the rest of my days, or until FE is allowed to come forward.

Anyway, back to the energy and evolution narrative. In brief, the energy of light is captured by photosynthetic life, and that largely powers Earth’s ecosystems, and it is also powering the industrial age, at least for a little while longer, until humanity burns through hundreds of millions of years of stored sunlight in a few centuries.

There are other important dimensions of this life narrative that I have not touched on much yet. As I wrote earlier: (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=522822&viewfull=1#post522822), according to the predominant theories of life, there are three imperatives for life:

1. It acquires, preserves and uses energy;

2. It reproduces;

3. It evolves.

The first one’s relationship to energy is obvious, but the other two also are, although the relationship can seem to be indirect. Reproduction is essentially reproducing the energy “machinery” of life, because organisms wear out. Phenomena such as cell apoptosis are just beginning to be understood, and the theories of aging generally revolve around cellular damage:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageing#Theories

and the ability of cells to do their jobs. In the end, the cell runs out of energy, or the process of making energy damages the cell to the point where it dies before its time, which is an energy drain on the organism. In evolutionary theory, as long as an organism lives long enough to reproduce (which would include parenthood in mammals like us), dying after that is not an evolutionary disadvantage. The human phenomenon of dying due to “old age” is pretty new on the life-on-Earth scene for animals. Animals usually die by predation, accidents, other acts of violence, or starvation, before they die of old age.

There are myriad reproductive strategies by life forms. The one that humans do, live birth via sexual reproduction, is a relatively recent innovation. Asexual reproduction has been the dominant form of reproduction for most of life’s history on Earth. It was not until about a billion years ago that sexual reproduction appeared:

http://paleobiol.geoscienceworld.org/content/26/3/386.abstract

and the basic advantage of sexual reproduction is somewhat obviously genetic, although, as with many areas like this, there are plenty of competing theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_sexual_reproduction

Nick Lane’s Power, Sex, Suicide and Matt Ridley’s The Red Queen are good introduction to the issue of sex (the DNA mixing aspect of it) and aging. The Red Queen explores the theory that sexual reproduction allowed life to survive in the evolutionary arms race between prey and predator, especially at the tiny level (parasites, viruses).

Plants developed their own methods of reproduction. Seeds appeared in the Devonian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed#Origin_and_evolution

and trees appeared in the Carboniferous, and the “naked seed” gymnosperm was born:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnosperm#Diversity_and_origin

a hundred million years later, a naked seed group diverged,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowering_plant

and in another hundred million years, flowering plants appeared, which grew fruit, in the greatest symbiosis between plants and animals yet devised. It took more tens of millions of years for flowering trees to displace conifers as the dominant trees.

But I get ahead of myself again. I have to go play husband now, but I will return to that biggest extinction episode so far (the Permian of 250 million years ago), and revisit Ward’s hypothesis that those animals that could adapt to low oxygen (energy) conditions the best survived, while those that could not went extinct.

In technical geological terms, the Permian extinction marked the end of an era, dividing the Paleozoic Era (ancient life) from the Mesozoic Era (middle life).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesozoic

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
30th July 2012, 08:59
Hi Wade,

Re Brian's date of death. Iliie and Bill had opened a thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26416-Brian-O-Leary-s-passing) last year, announcing his passing away on the 29th of july.

Re Wikepedia and NASA - Battles are always something one is not looking forword to, maybe, energetically, it will be more convenient not to think about it as a 'Battle', but more as an attempt to correct mistakes, an essential deed. the results are not always 100% determind by the one who tries to make the ammends (not a good thing to say to a perfectionist!)

About Mills Blacklight power - Wikepedia seems to be conveniently 'quoting' other several 'prominent physicists', rather than using their own words..

long live objectivity..

~^&*~&*

Limor

Ixopoborn
30th July 2012, 12:15
Hi Wade - I experienced the pleasure of being in Brian O's company at the 2009 Zurich Camelot conference.

His high capacity intellect was really obvious to me - a kind of cool efficiency in speech which can't be faked. It was pretty obvious then that Brian's main aim then was to encourage younger folk to take the baton. His gentleness was sublime, his comments always measured. He did not associate much with the hoi polloi of which I was one but nonetheless I was glad of his presence.

I got the impression then of something ineffectual in him but had no idea then of his more rebellious past. Actually rebellion and Brian were uncomfortable bed fellows all along. In that I have something significantly in common with him - a love of peace, an aversion to hatred, and a calm humility which is often confused with ignorance of the ways of the world.

Hail Brian O.

Wade Frazier
30th July 2012, 15:10
Hi:

Hi Limor:

NASA will not be a battle, but I have already been battling on Brian’s bio at Wikipedia. Again, the astronauts have treated me with class. It is the rabble at Wikipedia and elsewhere that gives me a hard time. That is also typical in these realms. Dennis is attacked on national TV, dogged by dishonest “skeptics,” thrown in jail and prison by the local gangsters, lied about by his “peers” and other joys, but the people who run the world take him very seriously.

Back to the Permian extinction. Why some species go extinction while others survive is one of the many mysteries of evolution. One of the mysteries is how the lystrosaurus survived when almost no other reptile did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lystrosaurus

They were about the size of a sheep, and with almost everything else wiped out, they came to dominate land like no other animal before or since, comprising up to 95% of southern Pangaea’s animal life. It was the largest animal on Earth after the Permian extinction.

The Permian extinction happened over millions of years, in multiple pulses. The extinctions happened during the oxygen crash. One keystone of evolutionary theory is that crises spur innovation. The Permian extinction is thought to have given rise to key changes that led to today’s life. More efficient respiration came out of that time. It is also thought that warm-bloodedness may have come from the same period. Today, the most prominent theory of warm-bloodedness is that it came about to increase aerobic efficiency. The four-chambered heart also appeared at this time, which is thought to have come about to increase blood pressure, to become a high-performance organism. Ward surmises that that increase in aerobic efficiency came as a result of the crashing oxygen levels. Related to increasing aerobic efficiency was the development of a more upright carriage, so that an animal could run and breathe. That led directly to tiny reptiles that ran on two legs. It is controversial whether they initially had warm blood, but their ability to run and breathe at the same time was a great advantage, and those tiny reptiles became what we call dinosaurs today.

A different line of reptiles also developed warm blood in the late Permian, the cynodonts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynodontia

and mammals descended from that line. The cynodonts began a trend that has a big impact on the appearance of humans in that they began to develop larger brains than the other reptiles:

http://palaeos.com/vertebrates/cynodontia/overview.html

Their enlarged brains helped them hear and smell better, not increase their intelligence. Mammals and dinosaurs came onto the scene during the Triassic Period which followed the Permian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triassic

They started out small, but the bipedal dinosaurs soon came to dominate, and if not for an asteroid that hit Earth 65 million years ago, dinosaurs might still dominate Earth, with mammals a marginal creature that stayed on the margins, hiding from the dominant animals. At the time of that impact that killed off the dinosaurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Tertiary_extinction_event

the largest mammal was about the size of a rat. The oxygen crash rebounded from maybe 10-15% during the Permian extinction to maybe 18% during the Triassic. But it was a time of relatively low oxygen, and those animals that could find ways to maximize their energy production in the low oxygen environments thrived. Dinosaurs could run and breathe at the same time, which gave them a huge predatory advantage. They no longer had to be ambush predators, but could run down their prey.

If you study these areas, there is no end to controversy and alternative theories. Bible-based creationists try to pick apart the science, with a “The Bible is right” goal in mind. I was exposed to Creationist science back in the 1990s, and was not impressed. That does not mean that there is no creator, not by any means. I regard the vast majority of Creationist science to be Baby Soul efforts. Materialist science is a Young Soul enterprise. They both have pieces of the puzzle, but are far from an integrated perspective. There is no inherent conflict between a creator and evolution. One of Seth’s last books dealt with evolution:

http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-Evolution-Value-Fulfillment-Vol/dp/1878424270

But the price of admission to this reality is dealing with the reality on the ground, and that means getting enough energy, surviving, reproducing, and evolving.

I have to run to work soon, but wanted to briefly address another aspect of respiration in low oxygen environments, which is the diversity in lungs. Mammalian lungs are far different than reptilian lungs. Alveolar lungs are the kind that mammals have, expanding and contracting. In, out, in, out. Reptiles have a septate lung, which is not elastic. One of the big controversies is when the ancestors of birds developed the air-sac system of breathing, which is a variation of the septate lung. Ward makes the case that saurischian dinosaurs developed the air sac system earlier than has been previously thought:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurischia

and that superior breathing system is what led them to have the lowest extinction rate of tetrapods when oxygen crashed once again (to perhaps the lowest value in the past 600 million years – the entire eon of complex life), during the Triassic/Jurassic extinction event of 200 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triassic-Jurassic_extinction_event

that set the stage for the era of dinosaur dominance, which lasted for 135 million years.

More later, but some long work days await me.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
30th July 2012, 15:16
Hi Ixopoborn:

Yes, Brian was no “rebel.” All the greatest “rebels” that I knew were all overgrown Boy Scouts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

and their “rebellion” was nothing more than the slow and grim realization that the “system” has only a passing interest in the truth, making the world a better place for all, etc., and is often diametrically-opposed to it. The system is there to serve those who run it, and it is not us. They left the establishment because it was corrupt, evil even, and they could not meet their goals within its framework.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
30th July 2012, 17:32
Connecting two segments from Wade's posts together - In the first, Wade talked about the "myriad reproductive strategies by life forms.. A sexual reproduction has been the dominant form of reproduction for most of life’s history on Earth." later Wade's mentioned the Triassic Period where the dinosaurs appeard.. I couldn't help but wonder how dinosaurs reproduced.. ? dinosaurs are considered both birds and reptiles, were there any genetics of mammalian as well? I am searching in google for answer. My guess is that some types probably laid eggs.

Well, Definite answer can not be achieved, only speculations, some quite amusing. someone suggested that this is why the dinosaurs are extinct, another suggested that when dinosaurs had sex, the earth tactonic plates have shifted ;)
laughing aside, it will be interesting to find out. sorry for the deviation from this thread's subject.

Wade Frazier
31st July 2012, 05:55
Hi Limor:

Most dinosaurs laid eggs, but not all.

http://www.neatorama.com/2011/08/12/fossilized-pregnant-dinosaur-may-present-first-evidence-of-live-birth/

http://askwhy.co.uk/dinosauroids/?p=211

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110811-plesiosaurs-live-birth-fossils-young-science-chiappe-dinosaurs-fetus/

Live births go way back, and laying eggs or having live births was a kind of evolutionary cost-benefit calculation. Live births kept the embryo as safe as the mother, but carrying embryos for live birth also limited the mother’s ability to move and survive. Sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn’t.

As I wrote earlier:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

the development of the amniotic egg allowed reptiles to go where amphibians couldn’t, and is why they survived into the Permian when most amphibians didn’t.

Mammals shared a common ancestor with dinosaurs, back at the first reptiles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_reptiles#Early_reptiles

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
31st July 2012, 08:23
Thank you, Wade. The links were most interesting to read. Then, there are hints that some of the 'saurs' expressed mammalian behaviour, and few of them might have birthed their offsprings, as the fossilized pregnant dinosaur finds demonstrate. This is a good example for understanding the amount of information that can be extracted from fossils. it is incredible to think how nature or another external factor cares for all the specific needs of every living being on earth.

The dinosaurs topic always raises many more questions, for example, I wonder, what would they have developed to be today? erected on two legs, like us? some of the 'saurs' types already did. how about inteligence? maybe the answer can be found in crocodiles, if they are indeed a direct lineage, it is doubtful that humans could co-exist with dinosaurs (would be very bad for our egos!) , and the presence of people probably influenced the evolution of crocodiles , or maybe its lack of development, who knows. There seems to be symbiosis in everything.

Wade Frazier
31st July 2012, 15:37
Hi Limor:

While dinosaurs walked Earth, our ancestors hid in holes. In the same book as these adventures:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

as I recall, Roads visited the dinosaurs and saw a T-Rex in action. He described it as an overwhelming experience. The high-energy viciousness that the T-Rex displayed is long-gone from this planet. As he watched the T-Rex in action, he realized that its representative on Earth today is the hummingbird. Roads’s account is one of many like it that I have encountered where a mystical account is later found by scientific findings to likely be valid. Until relatively recently, dinosaurs were thought to be lumbering, slow beasts. But, like with Ward’s thesis and the dinosaurian respiration system, they were high performance animals. The world’s fastest human runner would have likely made a tasty treat for a T-Rex.

http://www.livescience.com/9519-rex-outrun-humans.html

Also, some dinosaurs had hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumb#Other_animals_with_opposable_digits

And there is reasoned speculation that they were on their way to becoming intelligent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapient_dinosaurs#Sapient_dinosaurs

Intelligent dinosaurs with hands…. It reminds me of Michael saying that there are a million ensouled species in our galaxy.

There has been plenty of research on dinosaur behavior:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_behavior

So, let’s continue with the narrative. During the Triassic, some animals returned to the sea, which Ward thinks had to do with the low oxygen in the atmosphere and how hot the world was. There was far more carbon dioxide in the world during the days of the dinosaurs than today. The cooler waters helped, in a low oxygen environment.

The issue of whether dinosaurs were warm-blooded or not is still a hot topic:

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/endothermy.html

http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/dinosaurcontroversies/i/warmblooded.htm

Humans have an obvious bias toward warm-blooded animals, but the issue of being warm-blooded or not was likely a cost-benefit issue, once again. On a hot planet, dinosaurs would not have necessarily needed to spend the energy to keep their body temperature in the ideal range. Again, birds are considered dinosaurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur#Definition

They are warm-blooded, and many are highly intelligent. Warm-bloodedness is an obvious energy issue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endotherm_(biology)

While I think that most people think of dinosaurs as one big group, it was quite diverse, and there were plenty of changes during their reign on Earth.

In the Jurassic, with their air-sac breathing system in a world of low oxygen, the saurischian dinosaurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurischia

had an advantage over dinosaurs without such a breathing system, and saurischian dinosaurs dominated the Jurassic. The sauropods were the big ones that have amazed children for many years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauropod

The rise in oxygen of the Cretaceous Period, combined with the appearance of flowering plants, led to the rise of ornithischian dinosaurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithischia

which dominated the Cretaceous. The easy breathing of a high oxygen environment, combined with the decline of fir trees, favored the ornithischian grazers. The theropods were saurischians and the apex predators of the dinosaur era:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theropoda

Birds descended from that line. There has been great controversy in recent years regarding the alleged recovery of dinosaur soft tissue and even DNA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur#Soft_tissue_and_DNA

which is the stuff of Spielberg’s Jurassic Park. In my backyard, the former CTO of Microsoft has a Tyrannosaurus skeleton in his house:

http://seattle-mansions.blogspot.com/2010/02/nathan-myhrvolds-t-rex-house.html

For the people who have everything. :) I once saw that skeleton from a boat next to the shore. A guy I worked with went to work for that guy, and he has the heads from the T-Rexes used in Jurassic Park in his office.

Dinosaurs had some fantastic shapes and sizes. The largest flying animal ever would have been a terrifying sight today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus_northropi#Size

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm158/Kelly_M_photo/quetzacoalt-506x400.jpg

not to mention creatures like the T-Rex. The oceans were also full of aquatic dinosaurs, many of which would have kept the surfers out of the water:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronosaurus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliosaur#Large_pliosauroids

The T-Rex and friends would have likely gone along, dominating Earth, if not for a little impact 65 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_extinction_event

It is the only mass extinction that is directly-related to an impact event, as far as the evidence today shows. The others have more to do with atmospheric chemistry, whether it was volcanism, hydrogen sulfide events from anoxic oceans, oxygen starvation, etc.

Birds survived that holocaust, as well as mammals. As I have mentioned before, and Ilie dug up a movie:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=514114&viewfull=1#post514114

the air-sac system of birds is about the most efficient respiration system on Earth. Flying insects have the highest metabolisms on Earth, as flying is the most aerobically-demanding activity on Earth. When a bird inhales, the air does not go into its lungs, but into air sacs near its tail. The air then goes over the lungs on its way out of the body. So, directionally, it could be said that a bird is constantly exhaling, but when you look at it as fresh air goes over the avian lung with each breath, you could say that birds are constantly inhaling, as compared to mammals.

The system is far more energy efficient than that of mammals. Like my high performance car analogy earlier:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

having highly efficient lungs is only part of the secret of their success. Birds also have highly efficient mitochondria, and that is most likely why they live so long, compared to mammals of similar size. Albatrosses live as long as 150 years, and if you buy a parrot to keep you company, it will likely outlive you if you properly care for it. Mitochondria are the energy factories of complex life, as I have discussed earlier:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=520874&viewfull=1#post520874

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=521902&highlight=mitochondria#post521902

and as reproduction errors over an organism’s lifetime lead to mitochondria that begin to leak free radicals (which are the deadly byproducts of oxygenic respiration), those free radicals do a lot of damage, which ages the organism. It is like an engine that wears out, creating more pollution as it ages, eventually wasting more energy than it produces. Birds have high performance mitochondria, which are necessary to fuel flight. Because of those high-performance mitochondria, they are only at full capacity when a bird is in flight, and the rest of the time the mitochondria are working at a fraction of their capacity. A bird has a lot of slack in its energy-producing system, and this is an important idea. Energy systems that are not running at the limits of their capacity have slack in the system, which makes them more resilient. Less efficient energy systems, constantly running on the high end of their performance curve, are taxed and are less resilient (like humanity’s energy systems today :( ). They also wear out quicker. That is why birds live longer than mammals do.

Time to go to work. The age of mammals is coming.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
31st July 2012, 16:05
Well Wade,

You only have to post now that there is evidence of the flying dinosaurs breathing fire and the dragon folklore will be vindicated! :biggrin:

Fascinating reading about Life's processes on Earth. Hopefully we will become proficient remote viewers and will be able to "go see" if the interpretation of the data so far is correct ;)

Ilie Pandia
31st July 2012, 17:54
[mod-action] I've moved one post about a free energy invention over here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=530295&viewfull=1#post530295). Please, Wade has made it clear many times now that this is not the thread to discuss the latest Free Energy inventions. Start your own threads about that, or post in one of the many threads on the subject. Thank you.

Limor Wolf
31st July 2012, 19:22
Ilie, You obviously failed to find out that evidence of flying dragon dinosaurs do exist. I was 11 yrs when I got my proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfKT_ndfNl8) and I always knew I would one day have my own 'Falcor'. And I still do. given the fact that you were one year old at the time, you are forgiven ;)

About Dinosaurs inteligence, It seems that 'sapients dinosaurs' are mostly based on theories, suggestions and possibilities. The only thing scientists can do is to think of all possible scenarios, connect the evidence of climatic phenomena to the time of the extinction of those big creatures, and hope that some of these hypotheses are right on target. nothing else can be done, unless new discoveries are revealed.

In one of the links Wade provided, Dale Russell, one of the speculators, created a model of the hypothetical Dinosauroid of a Trodon type, in a possible evolutionary path, in case the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event would not have happened. the 'after' model can very much remind some type of extraterrestrial, according to testimonies and Portraiture made by people who have 'met' them. anyone who search this subject can notice the similarity. just thought to mention it.


Before and After

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Troodon_head_neck_NHM.jpg/142px-Troodon_head_neck_NHM.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Dinosauroid.jpg/194px-Dinosauroid.jpg

Wade Frazier
1st August 2012, 05:22
Hi:

OK, a little more on the Cretaceous extinction event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_extinction_event

It was one of the big five extinction events, and the most sudden. Peter Ward’s career was largely spent studying mass extinctions. In one of his books, he said that being able to say why one species went extinct while another survived is like saying why one person lived to be a hundred and another did not. It often seemed to be the luck of the draw. However, the conditions that accompanied the mass extinctions are beginning to be understood, which is influencing the theories on why certain species survived.

The aftermath of that impact event killed off the food chains that relied on photosynthesis, and the huge conflagrations that accompanied the bolide event burned the world’s forests. So, animals that could find refuge, and those that did not depend on the photosynthetic food chain, survived. There are ecosystems that are called detritus ecosystems, where the life forms feed off of dead organisms. In his Overshoot,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overshoot:_The_Ecological_Basis_of_Revolutionary_Change#Overshoot:_The_Ecological_Basis_of_Revolutio nary_Change

Catton called the industrialized world the greatest detritus ecosystem ever, as we burn up ancient life forms to fuel our world. The largest carrion heap ever amassed likely followed that bolide event, and animals that found shelter in swamps and burrows, and could feed on the mountains of dead creatures (or eat those that do), survived, like crocodiles.

The bird family was diverse, but only one line lived. The others died out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_extinction_event#Birds

Those survivors include waterfowl. It is also now thought that they may have been the most intelligent birds:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127165505.htm

and their intelligence saw them through. All other bird lines and all other dinosaurs went extinct. As with the other mass extinctions, the aftermath saw marginal life forms come to dominate the new period, as the ecological niches formerly occupied by the extinct species opened up.

The Cretaceous extinction was so drastic that it marks the end of the Mesozoic Era, and the beginning of the era that we live in today, called the Cenozoic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenozoic

The largest existing mammals when that bolide hit were about the size of rats, and they hid in their burrows, ate the dead, and survived. Those bedraggled creatures were our ancestors. Similar to those sheep-like reptiles that took over after the Permian extinction:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=529560&highlight=sheep#post529560

or how dinosaurs took over after the Triassic Extinction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triassic-Jurassic_extinction_event

mammals and birds rather quickly filled the empty niches that the dinosaurs left behind. And they became large. Increasing size in prey and their predators is a kind of arms race.

Time for bed. More soon.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st August 2012, 16:07
Hi:

This morning I will take a little break from evolution and geophysics. I have been a reading junkie from the time I could walk, there is a bookstore next to my office, and I go there almost every day. I often pick up a magazine for reading on the bus home, to take a break from the latest books I have been digesting, and this week I picked up Wired magazine, which I do about once a year.

Wired is one of those popular magazines where the writers have a hip style. It usually focuses on the latest high tech developments (at least for White Science! :) ), and emerging sociological trends relating to high tech. Whenever I read Wired, there is usually a story or two that makes me nod my head, thinking, “Yes, they are moving in a good direction.” For instance, in this month’s issue (August 2012), they featured a robotic strawberry picker. It uses microwaves to determine which strawberries are ripe, and then it gently picks them with a robotic arm. This is one of the farms of the future, putting an end to human stoop labor. It is an embryonic version of this farm:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#dome

Another article was on near-misses and challenging the all-too-human response that it was a success because disaster was averted. At NASA and in air travel, near-disasters are now treated like almost failures, and they are devoting a great deal of effort to studying near-disasters as a way to avoid actual disasters. There has been an 83% drop in air fatalities in the past decade in the USA by taking that approach.

I see stuff like that and I think that there may be hope for us. Another article was how the former president of McDonald’s is trying to make a fast food chain that is green, fair-trade, gourmet, and nutritious. It is all about making a tighter supply chain, being smart about it.

This was an area, however, where it was obvious how energy scarcity is the basic constraint that shapes everything about that enterprise. With abundant, clean energy, most of the reason for that enterprise to exist would go away. When I examine efforts like that, the energy-scarcity nature of their enterprise not only becomes evident, but it also becomes obvious that energy scarcity is the root assumption of capitalism. Even in our industrial age, with so much energy available:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

it is still an energy scarcity paradigm. They aren’t making any more of what we are wringing our energy from, and the fast-depleting fossil fuels make the logic of the USA genocidally invading hydrocarbon country:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

painfully clear to anybody who is not waving their flags. In the end, capitalism is all about profits, which means that somebody who controls the game rakes off the gravy. Greed and fear are actually exalted in capitalist ideology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed

But those are dysfunctional responses to scarcity, just like with all the other dominant ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

As Scott mentioned in my first interview with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYth4J7YqDo&feature=relmfu

when he asks people what they would do if they lived in abundance, the number one answer was “I don’t know.” The conditioning and indoctrination systems are so effective that most people cannot begin to imagine what the end of scarcity looks like.

After most of a lifetime of thinking about these issues, here is what I think is very likely if we abolish scarcity. But, as always, you aren’t going to abolish scarcity without abolishing energy scarcity, which is where FE comes in. Way too many New Agers and others try to play the abundance game without addressing why we have scarcity. The foundation needs to be laid before the house can be built. And in the current environment, that foundation is sure not going to be built by tinkerers. If you follow that FE tinkerer post that Ilie moved to another thread yesterday, it is the same old story, ad infinitum, where some tinkerer is going to change the world with his gizmo. There have been literally tens of thousands of efforts like that (and those are the ones who really had something – most really don’t), and none have worked yet. Godzilla has not even rolled out of bed yet, for efforts like that. On those related threads, one of the Asian tinkers who had great plans, which have been posted on this thread, had his stuff seized by the police last year after a big announcement. How familiar. :)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

I really don’t want to watch, when I hear about another tinkerer who is going to change with the world with his gizmo.

If enough of us can all push in the same direction, we can get over the hump, and what might the other side look like? Imagine that you did not have to do anything. All of your immediate needs were provided for, because FE and the attendant technologies provide all the food, shelter, clothing, transportation, and communication you would need with almost no human effort, and no impact on the ecosystems. If you wanted to lie in bed all day long, you could. But who would really do that? Again, when scarcity is gone, people will likely move up Maslow’s Hierarchy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

a few notches, like Bucky predicted. They would be more into self-realization than survival, and what almost certainly comes with that change is an end of egocentrism and more caring about the whole. There will be more big picture thinking, because people will care more about the whole than their slice of the pie. Greed will cease to become the primary motivation of the dominant system, and people will instead be motivated to improve the lot of everything. I am looking for those people now, but they virtually do not exist in a world of scarcity; that is why they are needles in haystacks today. With FE and abundance, they won’t be.

So, will there be social organization where people cooperate on huge projects, like the Manhattan and Apollo projects? I think that there will be, but their motivation will not be to win a war or a nationalistic race, but to make life better for everybody. Again, in a world of scarcity, such a world is literally unimaginable to the masses, but in a world of abundance, what makes people tick is going to change, and radically. Getting from here to there is the hard part, and when I read of that fast food dream in Wired, it is inspiring and sad at the same time, because I see what could be if FE and the related technologies escaped the organized suppression, and the impetus behind that fast food dream would be realized on a level where the dreamer cannot even imagine today. Making it imaginable is my goal.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
2nd August 2012, 04:38
Hi:

I want to do a little more on the Wired magazine issue that I just read. The cover story was Steve Jobs, and if entrepreneurs really wanted to be like him. Jobs was all-too-human, and will history will put him in there with Ford, Edison, and Disney. They weren’t saints, either. Jobs ran his companies like dictatorships, like Ford, Edison and Disney did. Capitalism is by nature dictatorial. The owners call the shots. But what Jobs understood was that he needed to work from the consumer backward. He was ruthlessly devoted to making the best user experience that he could. It was the opposite of what Microsoft did, which was to use its monopoly power to ram its shabby products down the public’s throat. There was an article in that Wired issue that cheered the thought that Microsoft was due for a comeback, and the article was titled, “Be evil.” The subtitle was, “The old Microsoft was never afraid to knife its friends in the back.” Boy, there is something to cheer about. :) I live next to Microsoft’s campus, and my neighbors all work for Microsoft. Interesting times…

But the article that I want to focus on for this post is one on rabies and how some people survived it. The article frankly acknowledged that there is great medical uncertainty about rabies today. This broaches one of the most difficult issues that I have grappled with on my site. What is disease? Is the germ theory accurate? There is far more than the wacky fringe involved with that issue. Pleomorphic subcellular dynamics have been seen for 150 years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

and microscopes have been developed that have achieved “impossible” optical resolutions that show life turning from viral to bacterial to fungal forms:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

and surviving micrographs show that Rife’s device got his “impossible” resolutions:

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm

and Naessens’s scope also does so today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

Those scopes can see life processes that White Science is completely oblivious to today, because it does not have the tools to see life processes at those resolutions. It is like how Galileo’s telescope showed in no uncertain terms that not everything orbited Earth. It took a long time for observation to overturn dogma. In sometimes startling ways, it is the same today, and arguably worse.

If the basics of life processes are not understood, how can the “medicines” of the day hope to really help? There is precious little evidence that vaccination gets any credit for vanquishing the diseases that are claimed for it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination

Improvements in sanitation and nutrition get lion’s share of the credit, not vaccination. I am not saying that Rife, Naessens, and Béchamp had all the answers, but entire lines of investigation, lines that can upend the dominant paradigm have been buried, and Rife’s case was particularly egregious. Fishbein was basically a gangster:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein

and he wiped out many doctors and their cures with his racketeering.

What the “right” paradigm looks like, I am not entirely sure, but I have my guesses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1

and what a joy it should be to explore those frontiers. One speculation around the somatid is that it may be where the divide between life and non-life is. Instead of speculation on what may have happened nearly four billion years ago, the situation can be explored literally right under our noses. I hope that I live to see the findings of those microscopes even acknowledged in the halls of orthodoxy. So far, orthodoxy has acted like Galileo’s tormentors.

Back to the age of birds and mammals soon.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
2nd August 2012, 15:53
Hi:

OK, back to mammals and birds. Studying the fossil record, using new tools such as mass spectrometers, and studying the geophysics of the moving continents (including tools such as paleomagnetism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleomagnetism ), and many other areas has led to multidisciplinary synthesis that have allowed for new understandings of the history of life on Earth.

The line that led to mammals diverged from its other reptilian relatives almost from the time that reptiles appeared:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

From more than 300 million years ago to 200 million years ago, when what are now called mammals appeared:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal#The_mammals_appear

those reptiles were evolving. The proto-mammals ceded center-stage to the other reptiles, who dominated for about 250 million years. Our ancestors lived on the margins, eating insects at night, catching small fish. As I stated before,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=530020&viewfull=1#post530020

reproductive strategies were based on cost-benefit situations. An evolutionist will usually say that there is no evidence that anybody planned or designed it, but it was just a case a natural selection favoring the most successful strategies. Again, the origins of life and speciation are two of the most poorly understood areas of evolutionary theory. Whatever the mechanisms of speciation will ultimately prove to be, the confidence is high that speciation is a fact, and that geographical isolation is a key aspect of speciation. Members of a species get isolated from their fellow members, and they adapt to their geographically-isolated environment, and diverge from their root stock and go their own way, becoming a different species than their home population. A species is defined as one that can successfully reproduce fertile offspring. Today, you see humans creating new animals like ligers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger

and mules:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule

but the females are almost always infertile, and the males are always infertile. So, a Liger is not really a species, but more of a human-induced curiosity.

I won’t belabor what defines a mammal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal#Distinguishing_features

as we all learn that in school. Mammals can sweat, and milk glands are modified sweat glands. Some mammals still lay eggs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

while marsupials give birth to tiny, unviable offspring, that they nurse to viable size. Because of that parental care that mammals give to their offspring, mammals are far more social than reptiles are. The mother-offspring relationship is the closest one in the animal kingdom. There are “investment” theories of that outcome, but I don’t want to get too clinical here. There are mysteries and mystical aspects of that situation that White Science will likely never do justice to. And what interests many people is that mammalian brains are different, and placental mammals have marked brain differences from marsupials and monotremes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_callosum

While insects can form pretty amazing social organization, especially the hive insects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_animal

and some spiders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_spider

mammals are generally highly social, as are birds, and so-called intelligence has something to do with it. In fact, a leading theory of human brain development was that it was needed to navigate socially, with all the subtleties of social organization, and a great deal of research has been performed on the great apes, who are our closest cousins, biologically-speaking.

But I get ahead of myself again. That social nature likely began with the mother-offspring connection, and sociality and group behaviors are pre-sentient behaviors. There is a highly-controversial aspect of evolutionary theory called sociobiology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiology

where genetics play a large part in animal behavior. The arguments revolve around the good old nature-nurture idea. The controversy will not go away anytime soon, and works such as Barbara Marx Hubbard’s ideas of conscious evolution is part of the milieu, although Marx is considered on the mystical end of the spectrum. Brian O was a colleague of Hubbard. I don’t plan to go there too much in my upcoming essay, but I will give it a nod.

But back to the Cretaceous extinction. About 300 million years ago, one supercontinent was formed, which ended the Carboniferous Period:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

The leading theory is that when a supercontinent forms, it kind of plugs the upwelling of heat from the mantle, and volcanism eventually breaks up the supercontinent, and the pieces of the continents then scatter across Earth’s surface, and rebound and come back together. The cycle is thought to last about 500 million years, but we are not quite to what is considered the maximum spread. It is expected to happen in the coming few million years, and as the continents start to come back together, it will end our current ice age, as the Arctic Ocean will get freed from its currently largely landlocked state. In human terms, that is so far off as to be meaningless, as far as the problems that humanity currently faces.

As the continents broke apart, many populations became separated, and there was a great deal of speciation in the increasingly isolated landmasses. That isolation had a great impact on the development of life, and one of the more fascinating situations is what happened to New Zealand. It separated from the Australian continental fragment about eighty million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_New_Zealand#Separation_from_Gondwana

when dinosaurs were in their heyday. Eighteen million years later, Earth got rather sterilized from that impact event, and New Zealand was repopulated only by animals that could swim or fly there, and birds took over the ecosystems, inhabiting all the niches that the dinosaurs and even mammals had. When the Maoris invaded less than a thousand year ago, they found an almost fairy-tale-like place, nearly totally populated by birds. Huge flightless birds:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moa

that were only hunted by the world’s largest eagle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haast%27s_Eagle

dominated the New Zealand ecosystem.

The Maoris exterminated all of them before white people, in their turn, invaded.

More to come on the age of mammals and birds, but it is off to work for now.

Best,

Wade

bluestflame
2nd August 2012, 16:02
just found this link , not sure of the validity but posting for perusal

"Evidence That Giants Once Roamed The Earth: 38 cm Long Finger Found In Egypt"

Read more: http://www.vyperlook.com/amazing-incredible/giant-mummy-finger-unearthed-in-egypt#ixzz22PBNZ7Oj

http://cdn.vyperlook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Giant-mummy-finger-Egypt1.jpg

hope it's ok to post here seeing as you were talking about fossil records

http://www.vyperlook.com/amazing-incredible/giant-mummy-finger-unearthed-in-egypt

Melinda
2nd August 2012, 20:52
...and some spiders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_spider

I do love this thread. I'm quite sure I didn't know about social spiders before. Probably I don't get out enough ;)
The theme of evolution always, always gets me thinking about the leaf insects. The Phyllium Giganteum has evolved not only to look like a leaf, but also to include the browning around the edges that come naturally with leaf decay.
You can see one in action in this 30 second clip: http://youtu.be/huHSyCv6zdk
When I first saw one in a documentary the film-maker described the Phyllidae camouflage as an example of 'intelligent evolution'. Not sure how social they can be. Just thought it might be fun to share for anyone who hasn't seen one. They're rather wonderful.
Here's a picture of an insect from the Phylliidae family.
http://conservationreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/phyllium-sp.jpg
They really get me thinking about how separate we are from nature in urban environments. Imagine evolving to look like a lamp post or a wheely-bin. It raises all sorts of questions about what kind of 'conversation' (nature of information transfer) the Phyllium has had with its environment in order to mimic it so well.

But I don't mean to digress. So, back to mammals :) ...

Wade Frazier
3rd August 2012, 01:05
Hi:

Bluestflame, that is the kind of picture and story that the Weekly World News would run. There is a ton of that kind of garbage out there. At least 99.99% of that kind of stuff is hoaxed in some hillbilly’s basement. There is a whole cottage industry that plays on people’s gullibility for that kind of stuff. That is why tabloids sell. Ancient crystal skulls, giant humanoids, secret caves housing alien technology – those are all nice tales without a shred of evidence to back them up. Not that the good stuff can't get sequestered, but for everything that might be real in those realms, there are thousands of hoaxes.

Hi AWP:

Yes, you see stuff like that, and the blind watchmaker theories sure seem pretty farfetched. More age of birds and mammals posts coming soon.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
3rd August 2012, 04:52
I recall seeing a documentary on discovery about an ancient crystal skull. I am not so convinced that is a hoax.

Wade Frazier
3rd August 2012, 05:25
Hi Ilie:

Do you mean this skull:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull#Mitchell-Hedges_skull

that is not allowed to be subjected to scientific tests? As scientific tools become more refined, many hoaxes have been exposed, people have been let off of death row with DNA testing, and so on. There has been so much hoaxing happening that artifacts that suddenly appear on the scene should be presumed hoaxes until authenticated. And when people make claims of mystical properties of artifacts, artifacts that are not subject to testing to determine if they may be genuine, it starts getting way out there, fast.

When I was a kid, I was into the strange stuff. There is plenty of strange stuff, but there is plenty that is not so strange, when the veneer is stripped away. Way too many people fabricate alleged footage, artifacts and the rest, or people fly off into realms of fancy based on the slimmest evidence. On alleged ancient stuff, if it does not come from a professional dig, I am going to be very skeptical. I have spent way too much of my time pursuing stuff like that, to see it evaporate upon further inspection, or be admitted to be a hoax, or be beadily exposed. Again, organized skepticism is largely a fraud, too. Again, that rare commodity, personal integrity, is the crux of the issue.

Even if the skull was real, then what? It sits in somebody’s drawer. It sure is not going to help solve the world’s problems (it falls a bit short of FE :) ).

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
3rd August 2012, 08:45
Klaus dona, a renowned Austrian scholar who collects "exceptional" archaeological discoveries which are inconsistent with the written history of the world, speaks here about the hoxed giant skelatons... but, on the real ones as well. from aprox 00:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNBA9YEMAg&feature=related

Ilie Pandia
3rd August 2012, 09:20
Wade wants to keep to facts that can be easily checked out and confirmed :). Otherwise we risk going down various rabbit holes with no end, loosing sight of what it's really important, for indeed: hoax or not crystal skulls and giant skeletons are a "non-issue" when compared with Free Energy.

So let's get Free Energy first, and then we will be free to explore our past and probably future :) to our hearts content.

David Hughes
3rd August 2012, 09:49
Hey,

On the subject of "Phyllidae camouflage", check these pictures out:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2071125/Masters-disguise-The-gecko-resembles-leaf-natures-camouflage-experts.html

My view is that the genome changes that have to occur to result in the expression of phenotypes like those in the animals pictured are induced by the organism itself in response to its environment, not by some blind, unconscious, automatic process as folk like Richard Dawkins think. He would have you believe that all those camouflaged animals got lucky, and all the mutations they underwent to to arrive at their present state happened by pure chance. Forget about it.

On somatids and disease, based on my intuition and what I have read, it seems that disease manifests because homeostasis is out of balance. Tiny life forms like somatids act as a means to help regulate and restore equilibrium in nature. They essentially morph into whatever strain of 'germ' is required to clean up and restore balance to the living system with the aid of our immune system. Disease manifests in our bodies as a result of all the toxins and chemistry that we introduce to them from our environment. All the harmful chemicals we swallow, breath, and absorb through our skin all accumulate in our bodies throwing homeostasis out of balance. There is a certain tipping point at which the body can no longer defend itself adequately against the barrage of toxins that it is constantly exposed to. The influx is greater than the outflux. The liver, skin, kidneys, spleen, and lymphatic system become overtaxed and as a result disease states ensue. You are what you eat.

Once a disease state has been diagnosed we have been conditioned to then turn to pharmaceutical companies and toxic pills to treat our ills, rather than addressing the root cause of the problem. Pills don't have side-effects, they have toxic effects. These medicines add to the bodies toxicity which builds up over time and ultimately culminates to a whole host of degenerative diseases - and big bucks for the pharmaceutical industry.

Domesticated animals like dogs, cows, chicken and pigs develop diseases such BSE, swine flu, bird flu, rabies and all the rest largely because of what they ingest and the environments they live in. Consider the battery farms that chickens live in and some of the crap pigs and cows are fed. Disease manifests when the ideal circumstances present themselves. Humans and other animals are not supposed to be sick. It is not solely just a natural part of growing old and the role of a dice or the wrath of God.

This website has a nice basic overview of Pleomorphism:

http://www.sun-nation.org/merkl-pleomorphism.html

Check out that microscope Rife built to view live bacteria, virus and fungi. A labor of love and a work of art.

17644

Based on his findings from what he observed through the lenses of the microscope, he discovered that bacteria and viruses could be selectively destroyed by subjecting them to their own resonance frequencies. The process is similar to how a glass can be shattered when a singer hits the right frequency. His discoveries were subsequently suppressed by the FDA and AMA and remain so today.

Wade Frazier
3rd August 2012, 15:50
Hi:

Brilliant posts, guys. David, thanks for the post. Yes, it is a big stretch to buy the blind watchmaker explanation of those camouflage experts. Your perspective of pleomorphism seems accurate, from what I know. I doubt that I was aware of Merkl. I was reading up on his work, here:

http://www.rexresearch.com/merkl/merkl.htm

When inventors play the secretive, disinformation game, they are sunk in these fields. Of course, here is where we come to the conundrum, which is the same one that we have in the FE conundrum. Interesting how Merkl’s theories relate to the ZPF, and his energy theories about subcellular life and disease.

But when you go for patents and play the proprietary, secrecy game, you are easily taken out. Sparky Sweet played the same game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sweet

It is a big mistake to think that there is an eager public out there, ready to take your work forward. The pioneers have to make the dent themselves, as they eventually discover, and they have few allies and most who approach them are thieves, opportunists, or gawkers. Because we all need to eat, the inventor tries to make money with his invention/discovery, and if it is the good stuff, then here comes Godzilla. Money hungriness and self-seeking are the two easiest routes to defeat in these realms. Again, this conundrum has many parents, from the foibles of the pioneers to the apathy of the public to the total ignorance of orthodoxy, in their blinded/herded state, to “allies” that do more harm than good, to the many entrenched interests that would have their rackets threatened, with Godzilla being the apex predator. Any inventor/discoverer in these fields needs to be able to let it go and give it away. Not many are worthy to give it to and take it further; that is true, but some are.

As I have stated plenty, the only prayer that an FE inventor has is to give it to a worthy group. I never met the inventor with the goods willing to give it away, and I have never heard of that worthy group, and my efforts at Avalon can be seen as baby steps in trying to amass that worthy group. My effort really has not started yet, and we will see how it goes.

When I get this narrative finished, it will become evident, if it is not already, that it covers one heck of a lot of territory (which will make my tardiness more understandable), and the intention is to have people begin to think comprehensively. The astute reader will see the energy thread that runs through it, and it should become evident by the end how FE will provide the means to totally break the cycle of exploiting Earth and her ecosystems to get our energy. FE can completely unhook humanity from that deadly and self-defeating cycle, and also, because FE would provide energy abundance that has never come remotely close to being experienced on this planet, many of our underlying assumptions will evaporate, because they are virtually all built, however subtly, on the idea of energy scarcity. It took me a long time to finally figure that out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I will be hiking in the next few days, so I may not get much posting done, but briefly on the mammals and birds, in the aftermath of the Cretaceous impact extinction, which must have been horrific to behold, the survivors found a world cleared of the giant reptiles that dominated Earth. Mammals and birds quickly became the dominant life forms.

That time after the Cretaceous extinction is called the Paleogene Period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleogene

The geological time scale can be sliced finer than Periods, and the idea of Epochs tends to dominate, and even get sliced into a finer gradation called an “Age":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_time_scale

During the Paleocene Epoch, the radiations of mammals and birds really took off. The next Epoch, the Eocene, may have been the time when life on Earth was the most diverse. Peter Ward devoted plenty of Under a Green Sky to the Eocene. During the Eocene, the entire planet was warm, with deciduous forests all the way to the Arctic Circle. Crocodiles and palm trees lived where I do today, and Antarctica had a tropical climate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene

In the early Eocene, the largest predator on Earth was likely a bird:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastornis

The gigantic land animals of the dinosaur days would not be seen again, but large mammals that capture the imagination of children today began to appear in the Eocene, such as the uintatherium:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uintatherium

As with some of the dinosaurs that went back to the waters of their primordial ancestry, some mammals went back to the seas, and cetaceans began evolving back in the Eocene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans

Then a likely life-induced event about fifty million years ago lowered carbon dioxide from levels of about ten times today’s concentration to nearly modern levels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event

Antarctica kept moving south, and its icecap begin forming about forty million years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica#Gondwanaland_breakup_.28160.E2.80.9323_Ma.29

and about 34 million years ago, there was an extinction event related to the cooling Earth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene%E2%80%93Oligocene_extinction_event

It has been cooling ever since. Climate scientists such as William Ruddiman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ruddiman) suspect that the primary culprit has been declining carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide starvation is thought to be perhaps the primary determinant of how Earth will eventually become uninhabitable, as the plants die from carbon starvation (See Ward and Brownlee’s The Life and Death of Planet Earth, for instance).

Plants have adapted to those lowering carbon dioxide levels, and the first grasses appeared during those times, as the forests shrank, and around 30 million years ago, some grasses developed a more efficient way to get carbon, and C4 plants were born:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C4_carbon_fixation#The_evolution_and_advantages_of_the_C4_pathway

C4 plants are angiosperms (flowering plants), and flowering plants came to dominate the landscapes, with gymnosperms (conifers) being pushed to the marginal climates.

As the Paleogene ended in an ice age, the Neogene followed it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neogene

The largest shark ever appeared during that time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon

and on land, the largest flying bird ever made its appearance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentavis

and gigantic mammals:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraceratherium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinotherium

that capture the imaginations of humans today. The megafaunal era was born.

Also, and here is where we begin to cut to the chase, those tree dwelling primates were evolving too, with their opposable thumbs that allowed them to easily navigate in trees and pluck fruit. The divergence of what are called hominoids happened during the Oligocene ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligocene ), around 30 million years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape#Classification_and_evolution

Gibbons split off about eighteen million years ago, the ancestors of orangutans about fourteen million years ago, gorillas about seven million years ago, and the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees existed between three and five million years ago.

But I get a little ahead of myself once again. I’ll back up a little, to cover some of the fascinating aspects of the age of birds and mammals. Who could have predicted that the monkeys would spawn the creature that would come to dominate the planet like no other animal ever did, an ape that shaped the world to its liking and eventually drove almost all competing animals to extinction and is threatening itself with extinction and taking most of the biosphere with it. But that is for later posts. I’ll revisit those days of the mammals and megafauna in coming posts.

It is off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd August 2012, 22:37
Hi:

I am home doing chores today, and have a few minutes.

Hi AWP:

I remember that Seth once talked about spiders in one of his books. He said that spiders considered themselves artists and were always delightfully surprised that insects flew into their artwork and provided a meal. I have never been able to ask a spider if that is how she thinks, but that is an interesting twist on it.

Hi Limor:

On giants and such, there are all sorts of people who claim giant bones and other evidence, but I am not aware of any solid evidence. And even if so, it would likely not be from one of Earth’s denizens, but an alien. We are definitely not alone in the universe, and plenty of people try to make a fast buck in these realms, hawking their wares. There are self-styled “anthropologists,” replete with pith helmets, who have never been on a dig in their lives, who hold forth on ancient advanced civilizations that they discovered, etc. I consider that stuff the tabloid fringe, and wherever rotund Americans buy their groceries, they can pick up magazines with tales of ancient civilizations, ETs who came to dinner, giants, and the like. There have been so many hoaxes on that stuff that it almost beggars the imagination. It is similar to the three-ring circus that surrounds the JFK hit, 9/11, and other “conspiratorial” topics. JFK was definitely not killed by lone nut Lee Harvey Oswald:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

but the fiftieth anniversary of the crime is next year, and it is guaranteed that there is almost nobody alive today who was part of the operation that got JFK killed. And does it really matter who killed him? The American president is down the food chain a ways:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents

What is more important is the system that produces such obvious fiction as the Warren Report. When Ted Kennedy recently died, I read that Ted had no doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald did it, because the CIA told him so. Either Ted was an idiot, or he was covering for the family. Bobby Kennedy approached the CIA when Jack’s body was still warm and accused them of doing it.

But while it would bring some closure to those who recall the JFK hit, it really is not important to know what aspect of the power structure did it. JFK made a lot of enemies; he was a rich president who could not be bought, who went on the rampage against corporate America, the mob, was a relative dove regarding the Cold War, and so on. My guess is that he was taken out from the top, by somebody at around the Godzilla level, and maybe because he planned to make the ET issue a public one. Maybe we will find out in my lifetime, but I am not holding my breath.

The vast majority of “conspiratorial” musings and fringe topics are pure chaff, to titillate those who like tabloid fodder. If we don’t solve the energy issue, and pronto, the rest simply won’t matter.

Peter Ward has charted the mass extinction events and the carbon dioxide levels, and he shows that at 1,000 PPM the dynamics can be put into play that create Canfield oceans and then hydrogen sulfide events:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=524477&viewfull=1#post524477

What I did not mention is that Ward also states in the stark conclusion of Under a Green Sky that the carbon dioxide levels are rising asymptotically, similar to Al Gore’s warning, and 1,000 PPM could be reached in a century if it continues to be business as usual. Not only do we risk that event that can take out the ozone layer, but if it rises that fast, then we will likely get something like a 25-foot rise in the ocean level in the next century as the ice caps melt, and more than a quarter of humanity will lose the land they live on. Those events will make World War II and the Bubonic Plague look like picnics. And almost nobody is doing anything about it. Almost everybody is hacking at meaningless branches, temporarily sating their addictions, trying to get rich, and all the other stuff that amounts to admiring the view from the deck of the Titanic, Champagne glass in hand.

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
4th August 2012, 07:44
Hey Wade,

Thanks for that link: http://www.rexresearch.com/merkl/merkl.htm

I'll have to print it out and have a proper read.

Just had a quick browse of it there. This part is nice.


"Gaston Naessens has made the following observations concerning the Composition of the Somatid: "The somatid may be the link between the biological sciences and the physical sciences."23

This study of Life is fun, exciting, and not dead like medical school. Without the protit/somatid life is atheistic, dust-to-dust. With the protit/somatid, as a transducer of energy from "beyond"... the ying and yang of religion and science become the complements they are, not opposites.

Scientists have broken matter down into smaller and smaller pieces, the atom, the proton, neutron, electron, then quarks, antiparticles, etc. In today's giant cyclotrons, what they have found though is that as they break these 'pieces' of matter down further and further, the pieces just finally disappear, "pop in and out of existence" as stated above. The particles enter the fourth dimension, just as they are supposed to, according to these now corrected twelve dimensional formulas of Einstein.

What is even more fascinating is that when these particles disappear and get into this fourth dimension, which is a supra physical, mental dimension, the scientists find that whether these particles even exist in this dimension or not is controlled by the thought of the observers, by the thought of the scientists themselves.

Quantum theory demands the inclusion of the psyche since the observer effect of any phenomenon will instantaneously alter its state. Einstein, Rosen, and Podolsky postulated this and supported it with flawless mathematical proof; it was called the ERP Effect (Einstein, Rosen, and Podolsky).

The process of observing and being observed become one. The process of observing does not just effect the results of the experiment, as per the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, it determines them. The observer and that observed have become One. This is Wholistic."

I see that Dr. Merkl was seemingly murdered in the end, no surprise there.

The following is taken from here:
http://sun-nation.org/merkl-dr-george-merkl.html

"Unfortunately he was not well received by the power elite of those in control, and there were a number of attempts on his life, ending in his murder in 2004 during the same time period that 64 other microbiologists were murdered within the USA. These attempts on his life began as early as the mid to late 1960’s, when he presented his revolutionary cold fusion discovery on the floor of the United States Senate (yes, cold fusion in the 60’s!) and was poisoned, only to save himself with pentoxihydrate (a powdered oxygen invention of his). After being continually harassed, including a number of raids on his home laboratory and Life Crystal factory, Dr. Merkl decided to leave the U.S. .........

In the early 1970’s, Dr. George Merkl conducted his first, successful cold fusion experiment. Following this discovery he was invited to the senate floor, where he eagerly planned to present his findings. His goal was to gain congressional support in diverting science from its destructive course of fission technology, and refocus the world on fusion, which provides clean and free energy and instantly eliminates the need for nuclear power plants.

While waiting his turn to speak on the senate floor, he was given a cup of coffee that was laced with cyanide. George explained that he had brought along in his shirt pocket another one of his inventions, pentoxihydrate, a form of highly concentrated, powdered oxygen. In his personal testing of this powered oxygen he was able to alleviate almost all types of poisoning, if administered within a certain amount of time. While keeled over his cup of poisoned coffee, with mere moments of consciousness left, he grasped for the packet of pentoxihydrate and was able to inhale it before he passed out. He did pass out and was quickly taken to Bethesda hospital in Maryland. There in the emergency room he shocked everyone when he stood up in a rage and walked out! He immediately relocated back to West Germany for 11 long years, swearing to everyone he would never return to the US. But, as fate had it, he found himself returning to the US to fulfill his destiny........

Dr. George Merkl was murdered in 2002, through a slow poison. Before his passing, he stated that he was having dreams and nightmares that his time was almost up. He said that he was called and asked to be driven to a meeting in a limo that was being sent up to his house as 'they' wanted to talk about something. He said that the whole backseat of the limo was wet and cold with a smell of a harsh chemical and when he hopped in the back seat of the limo he realized that he had been chemically posioned from the seat and the long ride they took him on.

When asked why he was choosing not save his own life with pentoxihydrate, Dr. Merkl stated that if he didn't allow the poison to do its work they would not give up, and would come after his family next. Up until his death, Merkl refused to identify who 'they' were for this reason."


You have to box very clever with all this stuff. The warrior path to toppling the medical and energy rackets really is a non-starter.

Imagine a world and what could be achieved if the likes of O'Leary, Merkl, Trombly, Naessens and all the rest could work freely together without harassment and the threat of being murdered. A FE based society would allow that to happen.

I’m increasingly noticing that the deeper I dig in whatever the subject matter, be it biology, math, economics, physics, chemistry, religion etc, all roads lead to free energy and its suppression, and consciousness and it's suppression.

Wade Frazier
4th August 2012, 13:37
Hi David:

Yes, that beginnings of life part about the somatid is what I mentioned as one of the speculations about it. When you begin to understand what information might be there and how orthodoxy acts like it does not exist, it can be mind-boggling.

On Merkl, yes, that path that he tried is a complete dead end. The going-to-Washington approach for FE, cancer cures, UFOs, or simple muckraking is life-risking behavior.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

http://www.all-natural.com/mikewolf.html

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wilcher

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#casolaro

I have no interest in playing those games, which is partly why I turned down that invitation to the White House:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

In the 1940s, Gerson paraded a bunch of cancer patients that he had cured with his treatment on the floor of Congress, trying to get the politicians behind him. Big mistake. He was poisoned a couple of times at his conferences.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=492188&highlight=gerson#post492188

and his treatment was eventually run out of the country. When I watch medical radicals with cancer treatments (always safe, effective, and cheap, when compared to the abominations of orthodoxy) approach the authorities, or I see FE people approach Washington D.C., or I see them approach the money people or the energy institutions, I always want to look away. Those are all suicidal approaches.

I played the game and lived, just barely. If you ever get a good head of steam going, they approach you, but it is still the same game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

Only people like Dennis and Adam have any business playing those games, as they constantly lay their lives on the line, surviving murder attempts and other outrages. And newbies are nearly invariably in denial about all of that, rushing out to go find out the hard way, like eighteen-year-old boys eager for the battlefield:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

The murder attempt that Brian survived was over the UFO issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

and the lid is kept on UFOs primarily because it is joined at the hip with antigravity and FE. Brian O became an honorary member of the FE suppression club with that murder attempt.

These are not areas for the faint of heart, and I am trying a different approach, one where the participants are not risking their lives. I could still be wrong and they take me out. It is one reason why I will have to get into an invitation-only forum, because there is too much naïveté even at Avalon, and we can’t afford to be naïve playing this game.

You are one of the few people that I have seen on Avalon, David, who wants to do something but has an appreciation of the kind of risks that it entails. I don’t encounter that very often. Conspiracists go off the deep end on the other side, with paranoia, etc. I very rarely encounter a balanced response to the situation. I almost always encounter denial or obsession. Both are fear-based reactions. I acknowledge Godzilla and his greatness, and do what I can so that I don’t get stepped on again.

That balance is also needed in that exploration of life arena. Acknowledging the mechanism without worshipping it – that is the trick. The scientifically illiterate wave away evolution and instead bang their creationist Bibles or believe their New Agey tales. Those in orthodoxy are almost all materialists. Both miss the boat, partly because both are in denial. The energy game is about the only one that matters at this time. Everything else is just a sideshow and distraction. But if we are going to arrive at productive understandings, we need to do the work. We need to be willing to question everything that we think we know. We need to muster sufficient personal integrity, and get beyond our egos. Not many can presently do that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

but those are whom I seek. But I am not looking for heroes and soldiers, but only pupils and singers. This may turn out to be as foolish a quest as those inventors and doctors who pounded on doors in Washington and on Wall Street, but I have never seen anybody try it.

We will see how it goes.

Time to go hiking.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
5th August 2012, 03:12
.. I couldn't help but wonder how dinosaurs reproduced.. ?

Noisily ? !!;)




I’m increasingly noticing that the deeper I dig in whatever the subject matter be it biology, math, economics, physics, chemistry, religion etc, I keep ending up back at FE and the vacuum. Odd that :)



Not that odd David - I find the same thing, the vacuum (is that really still the correct word for it ?) is where everything springs from.

I can see why lots of people argue that free energy will be the precursor to a paradigm shift, but I can't help thinking that surely it's the other way round. We (as a species) won't embrace free energy and abundance until we've realised that scarcity is not a done deal and that a state of competition is not necessarily the only way for us to exist together. Are we biologically/physically able to do this ?

Melinda
5th August 2012, 13:20
..I can see why lots of people argue that free energy will be the precursor to a paradigm shift, but I can't help thinking that surely it's the other way round. We (as a species) won't embrace free energy and abundance until we've realised that scarcity is not a done deal and that a state of competition is not necessarily the only way for us to exist together. Are we biologically/physically able to do this ?

Thank you for commenting Mariposafe. What I want to say isn't in direct response to your comment, but you words inspired some thoughts. I can't claim to be saying anything new, but I'm grateful to have a place to share what comes to mind.

There seem to be many cases where technology enters into the mainstream that seems to influence how many of us perceive, function and communicate dramatically. The printing press, television, the internet. The changes are tangible. Despite the fact that technology advancements have not given us the ideal world they could have (we still have war, disease and people work even longer hours), we have still moved forward. I know it can seem like the more things change the more they merely stay the same, but even though its saddening to look at a technology that should have taken us ten steps forward and think how it only took us one or two steps (and even did some damage), the fact is... those one or two steps still took us forward and they still count.

Of course, unlike free-energy, all these inventions (which are tiny in comparison) had the benefit of having powerful entities allow and even encourage them because they felt (or soon realised) they could engineer the use of the inventions to support the status quo that kept them powerful. Perhaps the internet is the exception because of the revolutionary, possibly unexpected, way it has freed up the exchange of information between individuals on such a vast scale. If it has been more of an asset to our growth than was predicted, then perhaps that is a sign that a shift in our collective consciousness is indeed occurring for the better. If that's true, it would be proof that we can change. I feel like many people are trapped in accepting our destructive/competitive scarcity-based thinking as an unchangeable aspect of life because they do not see an alternative. For many of us it is painful to acknowledge a problem exists if we cannot see the solution straight away, or can just about see it but fear we lack the strength to implement it. So if enough of us can see it, and support each other in seeing it, if we can hold the vision and share the vision, then we can help bring it forward so that gradually others will have the courage to lift their heads and see what is possible. On my better days I don't resent them for being unaware, I look forward to the day when they feel free to let go of the old illusions - so they can remember who they really are.

Often I look at people who act aggressively due to a rigid, scarcity-based mind-set and my first thought is how different they might have been if they had grown up and been nurtured in a world where there was enough for everyone; in a world where they had not had to fight so hard. I look at them and see their body transformed, their scars dissolve, their muscles relax. I imagine all the good memories of wonderful times replacing all the imprints of hard, bitter difficulties, and the light returning to their eyes. I believe, deep down, that healed world is what we all want for ourselves and others, even though we get caught up in our fear of what we've become and how we fear we may not have the strength to change ourselves. I'm often frustrated by how my own scarcity-based fears surface in my thoughts or behaviour when I thought I knew better. When I remember how many of those fears have been compounded by the culture around me it just makes me want a global solution even more. Even if its too late for me to heal some of the damage done from growing in this environment, it is not too late for many people, especially the children; and it is not too late to physically clean-up this beautiful planet and show our gratitude. That's why I'm grateful for this thread, and for all you for being here, and sharing this vision. As someone once said, where focus goes, energy flows. This small seed can grow in to an awe-inspiring, life-giving Oak, ringed with time and patience and strength. We are not the only ones believing in and examining these solutions, and the numbers are growing ever-larger, every day. We are changing, simply because we want to, and because we want to enough.

Wade Frazier
5th August 2012, 15:24
Hi Mariposafe and AWP:

I have posed the question that Mariposafe provided his answer for for many years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

AWP, you are as poetic as Sandy is, and thank you for the beautiful post. Yes, FE would dwarf every other energy revolution in human history:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

In none of those others did the inventors really understand what their inventions would lead to. It was never a conscious design. The most recent one, the Industrial Revolution, is the only one with historical documentation that we can study. England was the birthplace of capitalism and the first place to industrialize, and it had nothing to do with any grand vision of the future. Coal was used because all of England had been deforested, and coal was available. Capitalism was really born in rural England, as lords began kicking people off the land so that they could grow crops for the market:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure

Capitalism has always been an ideology based on greed, which is rooted in scarcity. Ideology virtually always followed reality. Yes, the powerful often sponsored technological breakthroughs to further their hegemony, only to see them backfire. The Catholic Church supported the printing press as a way to spread Christianity, but it led to the Reformation.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jockeying

I have been at this for most of my life, and I believe that the vast majority of humanity is not going to begin to wake up to the idea of FE until it is delivered to their homes. Machiavelli’s words are as relevant today as they were five hundred years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

As I have stated for many years, the greatest triumph of Godzilla is making FE and abundance unimaginable, and my goal is to simply make it imaginable:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm

And it has been a very difficult task. For those of us trying to lead the charge, we really had to see the deeply entrenched denial of FE and abundance to believe it. It can be incredible to witness, and it encompasses the educated, the illiterate, the rich, the poor – literally all walks of life. It is a universal condition, all except for Godzilla and his minions (and that tiny fringe of FE activists, whom Brian O estimated was less than a thousand people), who run their coffeemakers with FE and plan to terraform Mars if they make Earth uninhabitable with their evil games.

Godzilla likely began forming when Europe began to conquer the world. Until then, the aspirations of megalomania and the dark path had limited routes of realization. Godzilla has been familiar with the idea of FE for at least a century, going back to when Tesla tried to make an FE device and Robber Baron J.P. Morgan pulled the rug out from under him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla

As long as FE and abundance are so vehemently denied by the masses, with their allegiance to scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

Godzilla has the game well in hand. If several thousand people woke up to simply the idea of FE and abundance, I think that it would be enough to catalyze the shift. Also, there will be no proselytizing. That is the old way. If enough people can learn to sing the song, it will be heard by those who have yearned for it their entire lives. I have been trying to begin to write that hymnal, and it has not been easy, but when I do, I will need others to help. At Avalon, I have seen that some understand. Not many, but some do. That is a start.

One of my planned tasks, after I get this life-on-Earth narrative finished (I am a long way from there), is to make a series of posts that further outlined the FE levels of awareness. I have been continually besieged by people who think that Levels 6, 7, 9, or 10 will work. You can see many such posts on this thread, but I wrote that list long before joining Avalon, and I wrote it from decades of often-heartbreaking of experience in this milieu. When Brian O saw that list, he discussed it in his interviews after that. I will give some more color on them. When Godzilla watches FE tinkerers in their garages, inventors applying for patents, efforts that try to sneak past Godzilla, thinking that he is asleep or dead or imaginary, Godzilla knows that the game is well in hand. How many thousands of fools have to keep going down those rabbit holes? What the Internet has helped, is that all of those that Godzilla has taken out are not dying in isolation and silence. When I was with Dennis, we were almost totally ignorant of the fates of the other aspirants. We began waking up as the parade came to our facilities.

The ability of the Internet to bring the disparate threads together has given Godzilla, and those predators down the food chain, challenges, so Dennis is smeared on national TV every few years.

In finishing this post, it is my opinion that if enough people simply woke up to the idea of FE and abundance, and simply focused their awareness and formed my mythical chorus, it could be enough to catalyze the change. I know that I am looking for needles in haystacks, and my experience at Avalon has only reinforced the notion how rare such people are, but I know that some are out there. The ability to comprehend abundance begins in the heart, not in the head. I believe that enough people exist on this planet whose hearts can hear the song. I am here to help their heads catch up. I highly doubt that FE is going to come via a bunch of Level 19s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

but via enough Level 12s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

who can form that nugget of heart-centered sentience. At least, that is what I am trying to help manifest, and we will see how it goes.

I plan to continue my life posts today.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
6th August 2012, 03:34
Thanks Wade and AWP, yes that really was a beautifully poetic post !

I'm not arguing with anyone here, I'd just like to make some observations. Of course I agree with what you say in the above link Wade, the mindset and the technology will feed of one another, we don't need to be "enlightened" first. But technology of the power we're discussing here certainly requires us to have responsibility, to one another and to our home. A look at the history of nuclear fuel should make my point clear.

Free energy, here and now, in the hands of the military-industrial complex ? No thanks.

In my last post I asked if we were "biologically/physically" able to embrace the abundance consciousness, and therein lies the key to what I'm trying to say. Metaphysically, spiritually and from a heart perspective, abundance is a relatively easy thing to embrace. But on a deep, primal level we are still animals, competing with one another in order to survive. Before anyone shoots me down in flames, let me ask you - have you EVER been in the situation where you don't know where your next meal is coming from ? I have, and believe me it isn't a nice place to be. When it happened to me (probably not a topic to discuss in depth here) I found myself reacting and behaving in ways that I would never have thought possible. What I learned is that there is still, within me and all of us a hard-coded set of survival instructions which most of us raised in the West have NO idea exist.

Almost certainly, abundance technology would, over time, lead to our evolution away from those instinctual behaviours, but how long before they completely disappear ?

As I said, I'm not arguing with anyone here, I welcome the opportunity to discuss this, and to hear everyone's views. I agree, the first step has to be to open people's minds to the possibility of real abundance and free energy, thank you to everyone here for making that effort. (Chuckle, the perfect quote has just been sent to my cellphone !!!) .....

"In all human affairs there are efforts and there are results, and the strength of efforts is the measure of the results". James Allen

Wade Frazier
6th August 2012, 04:43
Hi Mariposafe:

You are bringing up a big subject, and I have some time for it. During my days with Dennis, I fasted because it was cheaper than eating (like a 45 day fast, still my longest), so I can claim a little familiarity with the state of desperation, but not anything like the desperation that the world’s poor face every day. My goal has been to abolish it, and yes, I am aware that there are going to be challenges, and people using FE from the unenlightened state that has dominated the human journey could be catastrophic. I am an American, and we sure love our wars. I don’t deny that there are potential downsides, and I deal with them plenty in my work (we have an entire thread devoted to it here at Avalon http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell), but the crazy part is that the “smart” people can only see the downside, before instantly dismissing FE with great fear and proposing “solutions” such as mass austerity. The neo-Malthusians, Peak Oilers, and environmentalists all sing that dirge:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

and it initially blew me away that the so-called “progressives” could not get enough of the doom and gloom of Heinberg and friends ten years ago, while completely shutting out people like Brian O:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

Godzilla and those “progressives” make for some very strange bedfellows, and conspiracists have accused Heinberg of knowingly working for Godzilla, but I think that an addiction to scarcity, and more than a little bit of the Judeo-Christian guilt trip, the kind that manifested in self-flagellators and Calvinists, explains those strange reactions. “Free energy and Heaven on Earth? Hell no! Get away from me! Back, Satan!” I am not overplaying it for rhetorical reasons, either. You really have to see it to believe it.

The caution that you speak of is partly why I am going about this the way that I am. It is partly an enlightenment test for humanity. If those several thousand people cannot be found who can muster a sufficient level of heart-centered sentience to gently help this happen, then it will be strong evidence that humanity is not ready for the next step, which will be more like a quantum leap. But the downside of not having FE is planet-threatening. On that score, I have little doubt that the Peak Oilers, Chomsky, Peter Ward and other smart people are not far wrong on how badly it can go. If we keep going with business as usual, and the wars over the dwindling hydrocarbon supplies escalate, along with the climate-destabilizing effects of venting pollution to the atmosphere, it could easily make it game over for the human species (which is why Godzilla has plans to terraform Mars as a backup plan). I don’t like emphasizing the abyss that we stand on the edge of, but it is real, and FE can move us back from the edge in ways that nothing else can hope to achieve. And Godzilla knows this well. Artificially-enforced scarcity is how he keeps people in those “primitive” states that you refer to, and keeping people there is how Godzilla stays on top. Mass enlightenment is his worst nightmare, such are the perils of the dark path.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
6th August 2012, 15:59
Hi:

Quickly, before I go to work. One of the principles of speciation, which is still poorly understood, is that geographical isolation is what causes species to branch off. Members of a species become isolated, they evolve to adapt to their environment, and they become a different species than their parent species, and continue along their branch of evolution.

On land, species become isolated in two ways: they move, or the land moves. Since mammals evolved from reptiles, the earliest mammals laid eggs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

and there are still egg-laying mammals in the Southern Hemisphere, although there are not many of them. Again, reproducing via live birth or by egg-laying seems to have been a cost-benefit “decision.” Most mammals alive today are called placental mammals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placental

The first marsupial fossils have been found in China, where the first placental mammal fossils have been found. At this time, placental mammals seem to have appeared some 30-40 million years before marsupials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsupial#Evolution

What happened many times is that animals either migrated from their place of origin, or the land moved, and the “homeland” animals died out, and the “migrants” survived. The fossil history provides many examples of those radiations, speciations, and extinctions. Today, it is thought that all of today’s marsupials once called South America home. Marsupials came to dominate in Antarctica, Australia and South America, while placental mammals dominated the Northern Hemisphere.

Marsupial reproduction had advantages over placental reproduction in that there was less risk to the mother. There was still a live birth, but the offspring was far from viable, and being raised in its mother’s pouch, with a ready milk supply, was the marsupial way. Placental mammals had different brains, which we humans probably have to thank for our “intelligence.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_callosum

Today, the leading theory on evolution of the great apes is that the collision of India into Asia ended up severing orangutans from the other evolving great apes, which is why orangs are so far from their African cousins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan#Taxonomy.2C_phylogeny_and_genetics

I cannot overemphasize that even where evolutionary theory seems to be well-founded, there is still plenty of controversy in orthodoxy, such as the notion that orangs are more closely-related to humans than chimpanzees are:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090618084304.htm

It is a very minority position, and when it comes to the ancestry of humanity, the battles can become fiercer than in any other area of evolutionary theory.

But, the principle of geographical isolation leading to speciation is not very controversial in evolutionary circles. That “hobbit” human species discovered recently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis

is a product of geographical isolation on islands, which has been called island dwarfing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_dwarfism

But I get ahead of myself. Long before protohumans appeared on the scene, marsupials thrived in the Southern Hemisphere for many millions of years. As I wrote earlier, New Zealand was dominated by birds, as they were about the only animals that could repopulate those islands after the Cretaceous impact event.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=531531&highlight=zealand#post531531

About forty million years ago, as Antarctica kept moving southward and the Earth cooled, likely due to falling carbon dioxide levels, it began forming its icecap.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=532053&viewfull=1#post532053

That trend eventually wiped out all virtually life on Antarctica, ground out of existence by the ice. Australia was dominated by marsupials, and as with the Northern Hemisphere’s placental mammals, they grew some pretty huge ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna#Marsupials

while South America’s marsupials were smaller, as placental mammals dominated the ecological niches. That world’s largest bird that I previously mentioned lived in South America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentavis

Large animals have many advantages over small ones, mainly energy-efficiency, in the end, and larger animals dominating the ecosystems goes all the way back to the earliest days of life invading land from the oceans.

South America had a marvelous diversity of life, which largely ended about three million years ago, when the land bridge formed between North and South America. That event led to what is called the Great American Interchange:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_Interchange

The North American mammals dominated that mixing, and most of the South American marsupials went extinct. It is thought that the North American mammals were the product of more vigorous evolutionary competition, and the placental brain gave them an advantage over their marsupial cousins. In a word, they were smarter. The only marsupial that really thrived in North America is the opossum, due to its omnivorous diet. Omnivores, such as monkeys and bears, can survive lean times that kill off more specialized eaters.

The Great American interchange allowed one highly successful animal to migrate to new land: elephants. The stegomastodon and the cuvieronius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stegomastodon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuvieronius

thrived in South America for millions of years, until humans arrived, and they quickly went extinct. Those who deny the human agency in the megafaunal extinctions, as humans conquered all of Earth’s ecosystems, have tended to focus obsessively on the elephants that lived near the ice sheets of North America and northern Eurasia, while the elephants of South America are virtually ignored. The South American elephants did not have to contend with advancing and retreating ice sheets, and had survived literally dozens of ice age episodes in fine shape (and some of the episodes more extreme than our recent interglacial interval), to only go extinct soon after humans arrived, and archeologists have found plenty of evidence that humans killed those elephants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuvieronius#South_America

and all the other megafauna went extinct, too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#South_America

The climate change hypothesis for all of those South American megafaunal extinctions I consider to be a strained bit of theorizing.

Even the Northern Hemisphere’s mammoths survived on isolated islands, thousands of years after their continental cousins went extinct:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrangel_island#Fauna_and_flora

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Paul_Island_(Alaska)#Natural_history

at least until humans arrived.

Of course, the human collective ego has great resistance to admitting that humans were responsible for the extinction of the world’s megafauna.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

The only big megafauna that survived were in Africa and Asia, where they evolved alongside humans and learned to fear and avoid them.

But I need to back up again, and upcoming is the evolution of humans. Again, this is probably the most controversial area of evolutionary theory, not the least of which has been the Bible-bangers and their agenda, but humans tend to be reluctant to admit that we are apes:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528110&highlight=chimpanzee#post528110

We want to be special, whether we are the flower of evolution or the apple of God’s eye. In that regard, the egocentrism of the religionists and the scientists are close allies, and their worldviews have justified endless evils against our fellow species:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#_edn6

The racism that Europeans used to justify their depredations is merely a variation of the theme. There has been a healthy trend in evolutionary circles that calls humans “Just another species.” That is a very helpful perspective that can help deflate the endemic arrogance of our species.

Off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
7th August 2012, 15:52
Hi:

I would likely to briefly recap a little, energy-wise. Chemical energy is stored in electron shells. The further the electron is from the nucleus, the more energy is stored. It has been likened to a waterfall. The higher the waterfall, the more energy is released by the fall of the water. When photosynthesis captures light, the photon knocks an electron further from its nucleus, thereby storing energy. That stored energy is used to run the chemical reactions of life, in waterfall-like fashion. Sunlight provides the energy to raise the water to the top of the waterfall.

The earliest life on Earth was not photosynthetic, but used the energy stored in the elements in Earth’s interior. Before complex life existed, and all that lived on Earth were single-celled bacteria and archaea, biochemistry was quite diverse. Although all life on Earth is DNA-based and carbon-based, that early life figured out many ways to wring chemical energy from its environment.

The sulfur eaters are what Peter Ward thinks may have led to several mass extinction events:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfate-reducing_bacteria

there are hydrogen eaters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_oxidizing_bacteria

iron eaters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acidophiles_in_acid_mine_drainage#Bacterial_influences_on_acid_mine_drainage

ammonia eaters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbial_metabolism#Anammox

even manganese eaters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotroph#Iron_and_manganese_oxidizing_bacteria

Without those tiny organisms, life as we know it would not exist, because only bacteria can take nitrogen from the atmosphere and incorporate it into life processes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_fixation

The cyanobacteria made the oxygen that made complex life possible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxygenation_Event

and it is thought that the resulting ozone layer prevented the oceans (more specifically, hydrogen) from being lost to space. There are other hypothesized chemical bases for life in the universe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemistry

but carbon-based life, with water as the solvent and DNA as the transmitter of information, is the only kind of life on Earth.

And when complex cells developed, by single-cell organisms enveloping each other, the diversity of life chemistry ended, and complex life used only one primary energy-generation system: oxygenic respiration, because it generated the levels of energy necessary to sustain the complexity of multicellular organisms. From a biochemist’s perspective, life got rather boring when complex life took over. Those single-celled organisms did not go extinct, but they largely could only survive where there was no oxygen. Those organisms are called anaerobic, and as Peter Ward and others have made the case, the mass extinction events might be called the revenge of the microbes, as the conditions were ripe for them to thrive again, and the sulfur-eaters in particular made life hard on everything else:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_hypothesis

when scientists study mass extinctions, evolution, and why one life form came to dominate over another one, it was almost always an energy story. The life form that excelled in acquiring, preserving and more efficiently using its energy would “win.” Flowering plants are an example. The gymnosperms were the first on the scene. Their reproductive strategy was for the male pollen to get scattered in the air, seeking the female seeds. It is not a very efficient way to “mate.” Flowering plants came along and provided nectar-buckets that insects in particular ate, and they would inadvertently pick up pollen as they fed, and bring the pollen to another flower, and thereby help the plants mate much faster than gymnosperms. The fertilized seed would grow, surrounded by fruit, which also attracted animals, and as they made off with the fruit, they helped spread the seeds. All of the warm, wet climates on Earth are dominated by flowering plants, with the gymnosperms, conifers in particular, relegated to the cooler or dryer climates. The conifer forests that I delight in hiking in are actually relatively rare on Earth. I am attaching two photos from my hike last weekend. See that bee with the pollen wrapped around its legs? It is doin’ plant work. The symbiosis between plants and animals has not gotten any better than the “deal” that flowering plants made with animals attracted to the nectar, pollen, seeds, and fruit.

After the dinosaurs got wiped out by that bolide impact, the mammals quickly evolved from their rat-like state, huddled in their burrows, and many ended up in the trees, in a pollen-and-fruit-based ecosystem. The first primate appeared then a little less than sixty million years ago, living in the trees:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiadapis

and importantly for the eventual appearance of humans, many primates developed opposable thumbs that allowed them to navigate in the trees, procure food, groom themselves, and so on. Hands became pretty handy! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate#Distinguishing_features

Fruit became the basis for those arboreal ecosystems, and primates also ate the insects that came for the flowering plant bounty, too. The arboreal environment also demanded three-dimensional navigation, so their eyes began to move forward in their heads to provide binocular vision. Their brains also became larger, for reasons that are still controversial, but are thought to be adaptations to the arboreal environment. Navigating in the trees is also thought to have produced a more upright posture.

As we will see, those attributes of primates led to the eventual appearance of apes that left the trees. But it is off to work for now.

Best,

Wade

sandy
8th August 2012, 03:29
Thank you The Wandering Pondering,

What a great post and I couldn't agree more. Just had the most fantastic weekend with my Granddaughters who I haven't spent time with in over 3 years>>>>>>>>>>>>it was like we were never apart :) and Love just carried us through to the next moment of being together.

LOVE is everything and when LOVE is the agenda and intent in our communications and behavior, the world will come together in ways we on this thread at least dream and visualize. Thank you for the wonderful pictures I created while reading your post. :)





..I can see why lots of people argue that free energy will be the precursor to a paradigm shift, but I can't help thinking that surely it's the other way round. We (as a species) won't embrace free energy and abundance until we've realised that scarcity is not a done deal and that a state of competition is not necessarily the only way for us to exist together. Are we biologically/physically able to do this ?

Thank you for commenting Mariposafe. What I want to say isn't in direct response to your comment, but you words inspired some thoughts. I can't claim to be saying anything new, but I'm grateful to have a place to share what comes to mind.

There seem to be many cases where technology enters into the mainstream that seems to influence how many of us perceive, function and communicate dramatically. The printing press, television, the internet. The changes are tangible. Despite the fact that technology advancements have not given us the ideal world they could have (we still have war, disease and people work even longer hours), we have still moved forward. I know it can seem like the more things change the more they merely stay the same, but even though its saddening to look at a technology that should have taken us ten steps forward and think how it only took us one or two steps (and even did some damage), the fact is... those one or two steps still took us forward and they still count.

Of course, unlike free-energy, all these inventions (which are tiny in comparison) had the benefit of having powerful entities allow and even encourage them because they felt (or soon realised) they could engineer the use of the inventions to support the status quo that kept them powerful. Perhaps the internet is the exception because of the revolutionary, possibly unexpected, way it has freed up the exchange of information between individuals on such a vast scale. If it has been more of an asset to our growth than was predicted, then perhaps that is a sign that a shift in our collective consciousness is indeed occurring for the better. If that's true, it would be proof that we can change. I feel like many people are trapped in accepting our destructive/competitive scarcity-based thinking as an unchangeable aspect of life because they do not see an alternative. For many of us it is painful to acknowledge a problem exists if we cannot see the solution straight away, or can just about see it but fear we lack the strength to implement it. So if enough of us can see it, and support each other in seeing it, if we can hold the vision and share the vision, then we can help bring it forward so that gradually others will have the courage to lift their heads and see what is possible. On my better days I don't resent them for being unaware, I look forward to the day when they feel free to let go of the old illusions - so they can remember who they really are.

Often I look at people who act aggressively due to a rigid, scarcity-based mind-set and my first thought is how different they might have been if they had grown up and been nurtured in a world where there was enough for everyone; in a world where they had not had to fight so hard. I look at them and see their body transformed, their scars dissolve, their muscles relax. I imagine all the good memories of wonderful times replacing all the imprints of hard, bitter difficulties, and the light returning to their eyes. I believe, deep down, that healed world is what we all want for ourselves and others, even though we get caught up in our fear of what we've become and how we fear we may not have the strength to change ourselves. I'm often frustrated by how my own scarcity-based fears surface in my thoughts or behaviour when I thought I knew better. When I remember how many of those fears have been compounded by the culture around me it just makes me want a global solution even more. Even if its too late for me to heal some of the damage done from growing in this environment, it is not too late for many people, especially the children; and it is not too late to physically clean-up this beautiful planet and show our gratitude. That's why I'm grateful for this thread, and for all you for being here, and sharing this vision. As someone once said, where focus goes, energy flows. This small seed can grow in to an awe-inspiring, life-giving Oak, ringed with time and patience and strength. We are not the only ones believing in and examining these solutions, and the numbers are growing ever-larger, every day. We are changing, simply because we want to, and because we want to enough.

sandy
8th August 2012, 04:40
Hi Wade,

It sure becomes more and more apparent that the world is truly ONE with your writings of our intrigue history as energy connects us all. The need to attain it starts right from the first forms of life on earth and depicts one species delineating another to have it. And so it continues to this day.

This is what makes me believe their is a greater agenda to the story of earth and that the process and journey is what we are all about in many ways. As much as I would like to believe that on mass we can make the change without the advent of the implementation of Free Energy it is not possible. We do not have the luxury of time on our side and it seems to me that "Mother Earth" will soon be calling the shots for us all (including the Globalists) if something is not changed in the near future.

Hi Mariposafe :) As someone who grew up in poverty and an alcoholic dysfunctional home, then emulating what I learned and having to change it all around I hear what you are saying about what Humans in survival mode are capable of. The good, if there is any, quickly goes out the window and one operates on the bad and ugly to stay alive!

We have many operating from this mode in life here on earth and the mindset is deep and the belief systems are all encompassing. Many don't even know, let alone envision another road as survival is the name of the game. This is why IMHO we need Free Energy implemented to make any change in this world.

I also think there is no other alternative as without taking the stress off of people enough that they can dream a little or think there could be something better, the masses are not going to change. Most can't get out of the box they are in, never mind think there might be more than one box!

Free Energy will be a paradigm changer for sure and it will be a process just as life is today. However changing to the advent of abundance on earth is a process that is just as real as the process we are in today, only today's process is taking us to the ultimate end of extinction. I prefer to take my chances in the Abundance Paradigm and some of the challenges that will go along with it. I want a future for my grandchildren and their children, etc. to possibly experience 'Heaven or Paradise' right here on earth rather than what YOU or I and many others have had to experience.

If we can't affect this change our life including the bad and ugly is going to look like a piece of cake for what is to come to our youth without FREE ENERGY.

And as Wade says, "it starts in the heart" and taking stress away softens the heart therefore FE can be the catalyst to moving the masses to a safer more cooperative civilization rather than the highly competitive one we now experience.

Wade Frazier
8th August 2012, 05:02
Sandy, my sister, do you ever get it. So happy you are here.

Love,

Wade

Wade Frazier
8th August 2012, 15:25
Hi:

OK, back to life. One of the earliest hints that there might be a phenomenon such as plate tectonics was the way that Africa and South America seemed to fit together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

http://www.msnucleus.org/membership/html/k-6/pt/plate/1/ptpt1_3a.html

The current theory is that they split about 120 million years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platyrrhini#Origin

But there is evidence that dinosaurs were able to migrate between the split continents:

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/61312/discovery_puts_south_america_africa_together_longer/

There is similar evidence that the New World monkeys came from Africa in similar fashion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_monkey#Origin

about forty million years ago. The leading theory is that there was a land bridge in the newly forming Atlantic Ocean, but maybe the ETs moved them! (or they migrated across Atlantis) :)

Once the New World monkeys were established, they had a distinctly different evolutionary path than Old World monkeys. With only a few exceptions, New World monkeys do not have opposable thumbs. They are the only monkeys with prehensile tails, however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehensile_tail#Animals_with_fully_prehensile_tails

Other animals have different prehensile body parts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehensile

Being able to grab something has great advantages. That ability likely helped monkey brains grow. The only New World monkey family with opposable thumbs also has the New World monkey with the largest brain, and the smartest New World monkey, that uses tools and can even make stone tools:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Capuchin#Tool_use_and_manufacture

A key aspect of primate tool-making seems to be if they are on the ground and their hands are freed. This would have epochal importance for proto-humans. Free the hands, set them to work, and there is a positive feedback on brain development.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/w/wilson-hand.html

It is thought today that increasing tool use and enlarging brains co-evolved.

Animals have developed different ways to create synergies by acting in groups:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_animal_behavior

It usually had an energy reason. I want to make it clear that if an animal successfully avoids being preyed upon, that is an energy victory. It enabled the animal to preserve its own energy, and prevent it from becoming an energy source for the predator. To avoid becoming prey is the ultimate energy-preservation activity.

Insects engage in group behaviors, some highly specialized, such as with ants, termites and bees. Scientists do not credit those insects with much intelligence, and theorize that their complex societies evolved without much intelligence guiding the operation. The mystic is not so sure. That gets into species consciousness, devas, and other areas that materialistic White Science is currently unable to explore. I will certainly give a nod to those ideas, as hard as they can be to study in the White Science way. As I have stated before, Black Science is not as materialistic as White Science is. They use psychotronic technology, often in evil fashion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

and have reverse-engineered “captured” ET craft, and engaged in other activities that leave the materialistic framework of White Science far behind. As I have stated plenty, Black Science is so far ahead of White Science:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

that the physical principles of Black Science render the White Science textbooks something akin to cave drawings at times. I already did a bunch of posts on White Science, Fringe Science and Black Science:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=504316&viewfull=1#post504316

and I won’t belabor it here, but I just want to make the point that White Science is far from figuring it all out, or even having the tools and approach to do so. It has nothing to say these days on group consciousness, souls, and so on, and its practitioners generally prefer to believe that such things do not exist. More than 90% of White Scientists are functional atheists.

The mystic will say that bee hives and ant colonies participate in hive awareness. All members are part of the hive awareness. That certainly does not mean that they are all automatons. White Scientists have found ants that shirk their duties, fake being productive, getting a free ride from the system. A**holery is not the sole province of humans. :)

But scientists who study monkeys see much in them that can be eerily reminiscent of human behavior. Monkeys are generally highly social animals, living in groups of up to a couple hundred members. They have hierarchies and can have Machiavellian plotting. Chimpanzees can, too, but on a level that can be painfully primitive to human observers. The so-called herd instinct is part of the human heritage, and I call it pre-sentient behavior. When people are in fear, they often retreat to pre-sentient behaviors, as they are focused on survival. That is why America abdicated its collective sentience after 9/11, mindlessly waving their flags and cheering the invasion of a nation that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

add in the well-founded suspicion that 9/11 likely had help from high places:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

and it is easy to get the impression that the American people are a big herd that is stampeded this way and that, whichever way the social managers want them to stampede. We may be about to stampede off the cliff:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

It brings up the issue whether humanity is really a sentient species. Some of the greatest people I have known asked that question:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

IMO, sentience is something that humans are still learning, and it has more to do than having clever hands and being able to plot like Machiavelli, but true sentience I believe begins in the heart. This human society is as fully sentient as I have heard of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

while this one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

is completely oblivious to the herd management that it is being subjected to. They are still working on becoming sentient, IMO.

I am wandering a little in this narrative. It is off to work, and I’ll return to the evolution of monkeys, apes and humans in the coming posts.

Best,

Wade

CdnSirian
8th August 2012, 16:51
Thanks Sandy, love to read your reflections here.

Wade, a wee snippet I just came across and you may already know this: "Wade is of Old English and Scandinavian origin, and the meaning of Wade is "able to go; river ford," and/or "advancer."

Thanks again for your diligent and voluminous posts!

Ilie Pandia
8th August 2012, 22:16
I am wandering a little in this narrative. It is off to work, and I’ll return to the evolution of monkeys, apes and humans in the coming posts.

Best,

Wade

Ok Wade,

But you'd better not conclude that we are apes, or I may have to close your account :biggrin:

Wade Frazier
9th August 2012, 04:18
Hi Ilie:

I have been thrown out of better joints than this! :)

Seriously, and I have stated it plenty, I’ll always be grateful to have a quasi-public platform where I am not constantly being attacked by trolls, some of whom are likely professionals. Bill’s forum is about the only one that I would trust to join, and the existence of Avalon was quite a pleasant surprise. If my work ever really goes anywhere, the Avalon days will be part of its history, and the affiliation may last a long, long time (until I get kicked out :) ).

Hi CdnSirian:

Ah, the name game. There has been plenty of mystical speculation about my name, both within my family and outside of it. Beats me. The Welsh “wanderer” root of Wade is one that I have been aware of for many years, but most meanings are around water.

http://www.meaning-of-baby-boy-names.org.uk/first-name-meanings-w/meaning-of-wade.htm

http://wiki.name.com/en/Wade

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Wade

http://www.namesbay.org/wade

My college roommates called me a wanderer before they heard of that name root. When I read about wanderers in the Ra Material, I wondered:

http://lawofone.info/results.php?c=Wanderers

http://www.llresearch.org/wanderer.aspx

My writings can be seen as wandering. :)

But that guy who just mowed down several people was named Wade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Oak_Creek_shooting

I don’t know about that name stuff. Good ol’ Chris Columbus sure lived up to his name:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#name

and is probably roasting in hell for it.

My surname has also led to interesting situations. The most famous Frazier in my family is my cousin who brutally murdered his infant son a few years ago. The first prominent Fraziers in the USA were in the slave trade (for instance John Frazier, in Charleston, in the 1600s), which is why the most famous Fraziers are black, such as Joe and Walt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Frazier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Frazier

I have a racist, redneck side of my family, and that the most famous Fraziers are black has surely caused a little ironic consternation in my family. People regularly called me "Walt" by accident when I was young.

An alleged archangel once told me that I am from a “gardener” soul group that helped design Earth school. The same one told me that I helped melt down Atlantis. The source had a lot of credibility with me (astounding predictions that came true will do that), so I don’t dismiss it, but there can sure be ego hazards with all of that.

I pretty much try to ignore it all and just get my work done. Nobody is letting me in the joke, so I keep doing what can, staying faithful to my vision, and letting the cards fall where they may.

Probably not until after I am dead will anybody really give me a clue about what this trip was for. Until then, all I can do is keep on trying.

In the next post I will try to get back on track with those monkeys and apes, at least one of which became at least semi-sentient. :)

Best,

Wade

WhiteFeather
9th August 2012, 11:37
Hey Wade: I am now seriously considering utilizing HHO cells in my 97 Sonata. Seems like there going to start hitting us pretty hard at the pump soon. Ive Been doing some research on this device that says it could boost your mileage 35 percent. Gonna give it a shot very soon. Your thoughts on this?

PS....... Wade Have you seen this news hitting mainstream in India recently?

ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani engineer has successfully developed a unique technology that uses water as fuel in vehicles instead of petrol or CNG, a feat once considered a farfetched dream. Waqar Ahmad drove his car using water as fuel on Thursday during a demonstration for Pakistani parliamentarians, scientists and students.

He claimed that on one litre of water a 1000 CC car can cover a distance of 40 km and a motorbike can run up to 150 km using this technology.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-28/science/32906478_1_hydrogen-cng-cc-car


Peace
W.f.

Wade Frazier
9th August 2012, 13:13
Hi WhiteFeather:

Hydrocarbons are only going to get more expensive, as we start running out of them. There is a post over here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=530295&viewfull=1#post530295

and on that thread that you began:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47972-Water-Powered-Car-Hits-Mainstream-in-Pakistan

I really don’t have much to add, other than that there are many variations on stuff like that, from Brown’s Gas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

to Mills and his hydrinos, to good old simple hydrogen. If it is farming the ZPF, then look out. Godzilla does not take kindly to that. If it is just hydrogen from water, it is like the rest of them, and no big deal – it takes more energy to make the hydrogen than burning it produces, like biofuels. We are starting to see more Asians try to do this kind of thing, but Godzilla has a global reach. It is ZPE or bust, IMO, and tinkerers do not have a prayer, even if they are in Pakistan, India, Japan, or Iran.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
9th August 2012, 14:46
Hi:

Back to those monkeys and apes. Sexual dimorphism is thought to be a product of sexual selection – i.e., how animals mate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism#Evolution

The roots of the differences between men and women are millions of years old. Evolution in these matters is highly controversial. There is a branch of evolution called sociobiology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiology

which has generated heated debates. Genetics are also in the mix, and the area of gene expression is a large one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_expression

As with other areas of evolution, gene expression is a tale of process and history, not intent. The great sociobiologist, E.O. Wilson, is a kind of deist, which is unusual in these realms. For a materialist critique of sociobiology, see Richard Francis’s Why Men Won’t Ask for Directions. In these scientific controversies, there can be a great deal of intelligence brought to bear, and it can take quite a while to immerse yourself deeply enough into the subject to understand the gist of the arguments and evidence, but there has been a great deal of writing by first-tier scientists with an eye to bringing the public into the arena. White scientists have been slowly learning that playing in a cloistered priesthood is not really good for the process of science. It is nice to see Peter Ward’s books, for instance, refer to popular science books written by people like Jared Diamond, Nick Lane, and William Ruddiman. And Ward’s fellow evolutionary scientists such as David Beerling and Andrew Knoll write popular science books. Understanding the gist of the situations takes some work, but you don’t need a degree in physics to understand them. In a way, I am trying to do something similar.

One thing is for sure; White Science is a long, long way from figuring it all out, and I don’t only mean that they have largely ignored consciousness so far, but in most areas of research, the scientists themselves have admitted that they have barely scratched the surface with their investigations. Over the years, I have constantly run into works where scientists propose hypotheses, or run into unexpected results and call for more research, and openly admit that they have barely begun to explore the issue.

However, their tools are logic, technology, sweat, a code of ethics, and their goal is usually a theory that can generate predictions that can be tested. That is the ideal, anyway. White Science regularly falls far short of that ideal. The scientific method is like free markets, democracy, and a free press – ideals that have never really been seen in the real world. White Science gropes toward it, however, and as long as it does not step on the toes of Black Science and goes after something highly meaningful such as FE or cancer cures, White Science is left alone to its devices. Vying for Nobel Prizes, prestigious positions in academia, and research grants are activities that corrupt the profession; so it is, in a world of scarcity.

So, back to monkeys and apes. I mentioned earlier that primates appeared a few million years after the bolide impact wiped out the dinosaurs:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=534214&viewfull=1#post534214

and New World and Old World monkeys split about forty million years ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=534910&viewfull=1#post534910

and around thirty million years ago, what we call apes today diverged from Old World Monkeys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape#Classification_and_evolution

In general, apes lost their tails, and they are larger than monkeys, and their brains are more highly developed. Like all evolutionary radiations, the apes branched off, with lines rising and falling; new species appeared and old species went extinct. Scientists have estimated that the average species life expectancy is about a million years. But there is wide variation, with some living fossils surviving for far longer:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=526024&highlight=living+fossil#post526024

and many have far shorter spans. Many primate species have come and gone in the past sixty million years, and the branches that led to humans are almost all extinct. Apes did their own diverging, and what we call Great Apes diverged from what are known as lesser apes (gibbons) around 15-20 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_apes

They all lived in the rainforests that ran from central Africa along southern Asia. As I stated earlier, the crashing of the Indian subcontinent into Asia is likely the main reason why what became orangutans became separated from the other great apes:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=533612&highlight=india#post533612

Orangs grew large brains, too. Large brains are not unique to apes. Some dolphins have proportionally larger brains than humans do, and in my circles, dolphins are considered water people:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=511613&highlight=dolphins#post511613

Whales have far larger brains, and I consider it highly likely that we cannot even begin to fathom how whales think. They provided energy however, so we hunted them to the brink of extinction:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

I have to run to work now, but the ape narrative is now beginning, which is what Ilie has been waiting for. :)

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
9th August 2012, 15:53
Whales have far larger brains, and I consider it highly likely that we cannot even begin to fathom how whales think. They provided energy however, so we hunted them to the brink of extinction.

A short detour. This is something that I struggle with. If whales are smarter than us, how come they have allowed them to be hunted down to the brink of extinction? Why didn't they imagine ways of staying out of our reach. Do you have any thoughts on this? (Other than perhaps some mystical reasons that my human mind cannot fathom I don't understand why wouldn't they keep way from such a savage species).

ulli
9th August 2012, 16:07
The Osa Peninsula of Costa Rica has become a haven for whales, where they come annually to give birth to their babies.
It is already called Sala de Maternidad, or The Whale Maternity Ward.
As if they had figured it out, that Costa Rica is a country that would never hurt them.

Wade Frazier
10th August 2012, 03:51
Hi Ilie and Ulli (I have not been able to make a greeting like that for awhile http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=188452&viewfull=1#post188452 ):

Big subject, which I don’t have time to do justice to right now, but in short, they don’t think like we do, and they are not as attached to their bodies as we are. They know that death is anything but the end. All other animals have that grace that we forgot.

One of the great things about fantasy and science fiction is the opportunity to at least imagine how life might be under very different political economies, different ecosystems, different biologies, and different ways of being. I have read plenty of the close encounters that accomplished psychonauts have had with whales and dolphins, and I hung out with a dolphin community for a couple of days. Dolphins and whales are telepathic. A dolphin pod may have twelve dolphins and twelve souls, but the souls bounce around between the bodies. There is lots of stuff like that in the mystical and dolphin communities. How much is real, I cannot say, but I think that plenty is. Dolphins seem to be into FE:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=511613&highlight=dolphins#post511613

Any creature that shares the planet with “slaughter anything that moves” humans, and especially a sentient one, has taken on a difficult task, perhaps at the Creator’s behest.

There is evidence that whales have avoided humans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#spitsbergen

But if you think about it, there was really nowhere to run and hide, not in the long run. Whale food is only in a relative few places. Most of the world’s oceans are the equivalent of deserts. Humans just staked out the “water hole,” so to speak. But like the Indians that could not escape the predatory Europeans, the whale really had no escape.

Whales may not be smarter than us, but maybe they are. But the human standard of “intelligence,” is highly biased. I think that they think very differently than humans do. One of the snippets that I once read is that a whale can make a great white shark, for instance, a pet, via telepathic control, and like a faithful dog, the shark can be found within a few miles of its whale master. Maybe they play “fetch.” :)

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
10th August 2012, 16:22
Hi:

Back to those apes. As I stated earlier, the Antarctic icecap has been growing for about forty million years:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=533612&highlight=antarctica#post533612

which consequently lowered the ocean levels. Carbon dioxide had far higher atmospheric concentrations in the distant past, such as twenty times today’s levels:

http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/07_1.shtml

but for the past 200 million years, carbon dioxide levels have been falling, and this has been gradually cooling Earth’s surface. The global tropical conditions of the early Paleogene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleogene

continually cooled. There have been no major extinction events since the dinosaurs’ demise in the bolide extinction events (other than the recent and ongoing human-induced mass extinctions), but about 34 million years ago, there was a significant extinction event that mainly affected sea life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene%E2%80%93Oligocene_extinction_event

and it marked the beginning of pronounced cooling of Earth. Around 14 million years ago there was another extinction event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Miocene_disruption

and the last of the relatively warm times is called the Pliocene, which ended about 2.5 million years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliocene

During those times, the mammals began to become more familiar to today’s humans, with ducks, horses, crows, and deer all recognizable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miocene#Fauna

There is plenty of controversy about what brought on our ice age, but a leading contender is when the Isthmus of Panama formed three million years ago. That event not only led to the Great American Interchange that wiped out a great deal of South American fauna:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=533612&viewfull=1#post533612

but closing the Isthmus of Panama and the gradual land-locking of the ocean surrounding the North Pole are leading candidates for bringing on the ice age that we are in the middle of today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation#Plate_tectonics_and_ocean_currents

The beginning of this ice age is called the Quaternary Period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary

and ice sheets have been advancing and retreating over the Northern Hemisphere ever since. Because an ice sheet wipes out everything in its way, piecing together the episodes has been a challenge, but it is now generally accepted that ice sheets have been advancing and retreating at fairly precise 100K-year intervals during the past million years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_glaciation

which corresponds to a cycle of changes in the eccentricity of Earth’s orbit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles#100.2C000-year_problem

The past 2.5 million years of advancing and retreating ice sheets is called the Pleistocene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene

and this past interglacial interval has been rather arbitrarily called the Holocene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene

because it is the time of humanity’s day in the sun. All of human history resides in the Holocene, all of civilization, all of what makes us so great. :) We may be artificially extending the Holocene with our venting of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, but I get ahead of myself.

Grasses are relatively recent arrivals on the evolutionary scene, perhaps appearing during the age of dinosaurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaceae#Evolution

The lowering carbon dioxide levels led to C4 plants making their appearance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_history_of_plants#Evolutionary_record

around thirty million years ago, some grasses “invented” a more efficient way to take carbon from the air. Those C4 grasses can live in hotter, dryer, and relatively carbon- and nitrogen-starved environments than C3 plants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C4_carbon_fixation#The_evolution_and_advantages_of_the_C4_pathway

C4 plants did not become significant until about 6-7 million years ago. When it gets dry, forests cannot maintain themselves, and grass takes over, especially those C4 grasses. As the current ice age began, it was not just the grinding havoc wreaked by ice sheets that shaped Earth’s ecosystems, but when Earth cooled during the advancing ice sheets, the sea levels fell and Earth also became dryer. In the tropics, the rain forests retreated and savannas appeared. Deserts also formed, expanding and contracting in apposition with the expanding and contracting rain forests. When the forests contracted, grazing animals expanded their ranges, and the savanna ecosystem is very different than a rainforest or desert ecosystem. And now we come to what Ilie has been waiting for, the appearance of apes that walked upright.

Because those apes began to look recognizably human, this area of research has long had a disproportionate share of resources devoted to it, and more effort has gone into finding humanoid fossils than any other area of fossil hunting. People have spent their lives walking around in Africa, especially Olduvai Gorge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olduvai_Gorge

looking for fossils of protohumans. What used to be called the missing link is more on the scale of missing linklets as more fossils have been discovered.

As of today, the earliest candidate for the branching of the human line from the chimpanzee line is about seven million years old:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahelanthropus_tchadensis

It may be what is called the last common ancestor of chimpanzee and humans, but the issue is by no means settled. The earliest specimen that is definitely down the human line is more than 4 million year old:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardi

Its big toe seems to have been opposable, so it probably had not entirely left the trees yet.

About a million years later, the celebrity Lucy walked the Earth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

She is the earliest example currently known of a protohuman that normally walked upright. In the evolution of humans, there are many changes in anatomy that signify a change in habitat and behavior, and one is the arms. As protohumans gradually left the trees, their arms became less suited to hanging from branches. Ardi would have had a more difficult time navigating in trees than a chimpanzee would have:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardi#Anatomy

about a million years after Lucy, the first member of the genus homo appeared:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo

evidence of stone tools used by our ancestors currently goes back 2.6 million years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldowan_Industry

The theory goes all the way back to Darwin, and it states that when humans left the trees, their hands were freed up for tool-making, and the positive feedback grew the brains of our ancestors. The old saw of correlation is not causation is invoked here, but the greatest evolutionary change ever measured has been the rapid increase in the brain of the homo genus in the past few million years. I lean toward thinking that the positive-feedback effect has merit. About a half million years after Homo habilis appeared on the scene, big daddy Homo erectus appeared:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus

There is spirited debate whether Homo erectus is a direct ancestor of humans, but it seems likely. What is not debated is that Homo erectus first appeared in Africa, but then migrated out of Africa to Eurasia.

As with other evolutionary radiations, there appears to be quite a few branches of protohumans, with lines going extinct. Until more fossils are found to fill the gaps, there will likely be debate on how the branches really lie, but for now, the general theory is that it looks something like this over the past two million years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Humanevolutionchart.jpg

with quite a few species identified so far:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_(genus)#Species

the full arsenal of the tools available to White Science has been devoted to the question of human evolution, and we are nowhere near the end of that field of study:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution

It is off to work now, but I will get to Homo erectus (or ergaster) and the changes that moved them out of Africa. They were likely the first hunter-gatherers, and the first that we would call recognizably human in how they lived.

Best,

Wade

WhiteFeather
10th August 2012, 18:00
Hey Wade you posted this back to me as a response prior......

" Hydrocarbons are only going to get more expensive, as we start running out of them".

What i was referring to was that HHO cells produce their own hydrogen gas by combining Low Voltage 12 Volts, Water and Baking soda. So im not understanding your response. Please elaborate more so kindly. *This video below shows how hydrogen gas is produced free. The electrical current is 12 volts which is alocated from the windshield wiper circuit of a car. The electric current 12 volts combined with water and baking soda produce free hydrogen gas when engine is running only.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdaUyJQ1IQ&feature=related

sandy
10th August 2012, 19:28
Hi WhiteFeather,

I'm so pleased you are involved in this thread too as I do respect your posts and points of view.

One thing though that I have noticed is that Wade prefers to stay on target with his mission to build a Free Energy Choir and not be distracted by discussions of other alternative energy devices. Although we all know he is the expert here in the Avalon Community, Ilie and Paul have created Threads to discuss these types of invention to assist Wade and his focus.

He is a very busy man with a full time job, family and his life's mission regarding bringing Free Energy to our world. His writings are well researched and very comprehensive and a valuable education for all who read as I'm sure you are aware. I can't fault him for having little time or interest to discuss other alternative devices, seeing his history is full of this information, promising inventions and destroyed dreams over and over again. In most cases he has been there and done that and probably has T shirts too :)

In supporting Wade's mission here at Avalon, I hope you are not offended by my post but wanted to keep it public so that all who wish to engage Wade in other alternative energy discussions can understand that this thread is not for that purpose.

In saying that I also love your participation here as I know your heart is one of the biggest I have ever seen in many places in the Alternative Community and your wisdom and love is very appreciated and valued by me. You help me to keep envisioning a world of Abundance with your kindness and positive energy :)

CdnSirian
10th August 2012, 20:46
WhiteFeather. I too greatly appreciate your posts and the way you acknowledge others on the forum.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=530295&viewfull=1#post530295 This may be the right place, also a thread by Wade to do with FE inventions....

WhiteFeather
11th August 2012, 04:52
Hi WhiteFeather,

I'm so pleased you are involved in this thread too as I do respect your posts and points of view.

One thing though that I have noticed is that Wade prefers to stay on target with his mission to build a Free Energy Choir and not be distracted by discussions of other alternative energy devices. Although we all know he is the expert here in the Avalon Community, Ilie and Paul have created Threads to discuss these types of invention to assist Wade and his focus.

He is a very busy man with a full time job, family and his life's mission regarding bringing Free Energy to our world. His writings are well researched and very comprehensive and a valuable education for all who read as I'm sure you are aware. I can't fault him for having little time or interest to discuss other alternative devices, seeing his history is full of this information, promising inventions and destroyed dreams over and over again. In most cases he has been there and done that and probably has T shirts too :)

In supporting Wade's mission here at Avalon, I hope you are not offended by my post but wanted to keep it public so that all who wish to engage Wade in other alternative energy discussions can understand that this thread is not for that purpose.

In saying that I also love your participation here as I know your heart is one of the biggest I have ever seen in many places in the Alternative Community and your wisdom and love is very appreciated and valued by me. You help me to keep envisioning a world of Abundance with your kindness and positive energy :)

My gratitude to you Sandy for that warm and kind response. : )
I was originally going to post this info on the Free Energy Inventors thread but after reading post #11, link inserted below, Wade had stated he would answer them on this thread. Thats the impression I got from his response there, I could be wrong. Let me know please. Wanishi


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35034-Free-energy-inventors&p=372108&viewfull=1#post372108

Carmody
11th August 2012, 05:04
Whales have far larger brains, and I consider it highly likely that we cannot even begin to fathom how whales think. They provided energy however, so we hunted them to the brink of extinction.

A short detour. This is something that I struggle with. If whales are smarter than us, how come they have allowed them to be hunted down to the brink of extinction? Why didn't they imagine ways of staying out of our reach. Do you have any thoughts on this? (Other than perhaps some mystical reasons that my human mind cannot fathom I don't understand why wouldn't they keep way from such a savage species).

http://www.amazon.com/Cachalot-Alan-Dean-Foster/dp/0345280660

Hughe
11th August 2012, 05:40
Open Source hardware is expanding fast like the Open Source software has been growing.
Hopefully some Free Energy technologies come out to public domain soon. Then, the world is going to change dramatically.

People will have equal power to the government or big corporation through Open Source community.
The following clips briefly introduced cutting edge drones, high-tech machines.
Imagine civilians could monitor government's military operation using community owned satellites. The expansion of knowledge is irreversible.

I think the one last business sector that has huge barrier is energy industry. As I said often, open source project is only way to bring out Free Energy power generators to people in the world.
UoBUXOOdLXY

Wade Frazier
11th August 2012, 16:01
Hi:

Thanks Sandy and CdnSirian for the help.

Hi WhiteFeather:

The intention was that non-FE-device questions could be asked on this thread. :) But I am going to address your question here, because it is only a little ahead of where I was planning to take my readers. My goal is to help my non-scientist readers think comprehensively, and what that helps people do is see the forest from the trees on the energy issue. For many years, it has been particularly disheartening to see the media and energy establishment promote energy “solutions” that are anything but real answers. The only energy solution that is going to save our bacon is a radical new energy source, and the media and establishment are guilty of promoting fancy stuff such as electric cars, hydrogen cars, air cars, biofuels, etc.; none of those have anything to do with a new energy source.

The question that I have always asked since I was a teenager in these realms is, “Where does the energy come from?” That is always the question that needs to be asked and answered. The rest is sideshow and distraction.

I got into it a little bit a few posts ago, where I likened the capture and use of energy by plants and life to a waterfall:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=534214&highlight=waterfall#post534214

I really won’t get too much more into the technicalities than that example in my upcoming essay. On this thread, you can see where people have been greatly misled by media cheerleading on extracting energy from urine and other biofuels. The energy that is in coal, for instance, was captured from sunlight hundreds of millions of years ago by primordial trees:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=527620&viewfull=1#post527620

The energy in oil is from a wider range of dates, but was ultimately captured from sunlight, and was removed from the ecosystems when the oceans went anoxic during mass extinction events:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=522316&viewfull=1#post522316

The Industrial Revolution is entirely predicated on mining that ancient sunlight, and it is running out fast.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=447579&viewfull=1#post447579

The energy source for hydrogen cars is not hydrogen. Hydrogen is just a storage medium, like a battery. The energy source for hydrogen cars is electricity. In the USA, the energy source for most electricity is burning coal. So, as far as where its energy is coming from, a hydrogen car is really no different than a gasoline-burning automobile. One is burning the energy captured by land-based plants, and the other is burning energy captured by marine-based photosynthesizers. There is no fundamental difference there, no matter how the final energy release is disguised.

There are so-called water-based energy solutions, such as Mills and his hydrinos or one application of Brown’s Gas. But the hydrino solution is not really getting energy from hydrogen, but is tapping the zero-point-field. For the transmutation aspects of Brown’s Gas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

the energy being released is nuclear, not chemical (electron energy). Hydrinos and the Brown’s Gas transmutation effects are outside the boundaries of the theories of White Science, so they defy the “laws of physics.” I am personally not interested in windmills and other solar-based energy sources, not when I know that there is another energy source that dwarfs it, and is clean and inexhaustible. That is the stuff that Godzilla has the lid tightly on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

When he sees the media telling the public that hybrid cars, biofuels, and other “innovations” are going to solve our problems, and the public ignorantly believes it, then Godzilla gets a big smile on his face, knowing that the game is well in hand.

And for those few who get past denial of free energy, the ones who begin sniffing around the free energy game, they nearly invariably disappear down the rabbit holes that I call Levels 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

Hughe has it right in that any free energy effort has to be based on an open source solution to have a prayer, but I have never heard of an inventor with the goods willing to open source it. They all try to get rich off of it, get patents, and so on. One of the hard parts of open sourcing is that several years ago I had a dialogue with one of the parents of open sourcing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

and he was a totally stuck Level 3 guy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

dismissing free energy as “contrary to the laws of physics” and tales of its suppression as a “conspiracy theory.” Those kinds of reactions are why this is a conundrum:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

Almost nobody on Earth today sees the big picture or wants to, but they all carve out their particular niche of hell and hang their hat on the scarcity-based ideologies of their choice, the ones that feed them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and they never leave.

WhiteFeather, I have seen your big heart in action in this forum, as Sandy mentions. Your big heart is needed. Will you come with me to a world of abundance? We won’t get there by garage tinkering, but if enough of us can understand how the world really works and can hold the vision, together we might be able to get something done.

I plan to make more ape and early man posts in the coming days, and I will eventually get to that contraption known as civilization. :)

Best,

Wade

Melinda
11th August 2012, 18:18
...WhiteFeather, I have seen your big heart in action in this forum, as Sandy mentions. Your big heart is needed. Will you come with me to a world of abundance?...

For WhiteFeather, and all the other big hearts... :)

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj550/DoodlemakerUK/ReallyBigFreeEnergyHeart.jpg

CdnSirian
11th August 2012, 18:53
"I have greater hopes for the free software movement, as the ideas put forth by Richard Stallman, Eben Moglen and others neatly align with the abundance paradigm, and in my work I make it clear what three factors led to humanity’s rise on earth: energy, manipulative ability and intelligence. The reproduction of intelligence is in its infancy. I consider the free software movement’s members to be fellow travelers and possibly much more. I have designed information systems professionally, and have given away a way to use software to immediately and dramatically raise the standard of living of millions of Americans, turning a miserable profession into something much more pleasant. I have yet to find a receptive audience to the idea, but the free software movement can help make it happen. Technically, making my idea come to fruition would be easy. Is there any interest in dialogue? "

from: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

For those interested, you can see talks by the two gentlemen mentioned above, on youtube. They are humble yet confident individuals, and are aware of both the strengths and failings of the open source movement.

Thanks Wade for this reference!

Wade Frazier
11th August 2012, 19:16
Hi CdnSirian:

One of those that I name is that stuck Level 3 guy. Almost nobody sees the big picture, but only see their little corner of it and think they have it figured out.

Best,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth
11th August 2012, 20:38
Hi Wade. You know I eagerly await the meat of this conversation. Even a bit impatiently.

There are areas where I do not see things the same, especially with the support of random suppositions science has made. For instance, I do not see any reason to suppose that the earth has just lazily slid along its course without some major interactions with other bodies or energies sometime in the past - thereby altering the geologic history. This then nullifies at least some of the "givens" in various branches of science. Also, Darwin's evolution theories are highly suspect, except perhaps in the specific area of land-locked speciation. Even the genesis of oil, gas and coal has some very interesting counter-theories of which Velekovsky is most notable. Now, even the reality of the electron is being questioned. The team at the Cern collider has statistically and indirectly "proven" the existence of the Higgs boson to 99.98% certainty, using the insubstantial and paltry instances that were within the correct parameters (400 collisions out of 20,000,000,000,000). So the standard model survives again.

With the above in mind, my question is: "How do we proceed via comprehensive thinking to a global view when the specifics are not nailed down?"

I think you have made your point quite clear already, that the source of a fuel limits the cost-benifit ratio of the fuel. And that a cheap or practically free fuel would generate the greatest leap forward in terms of the evolution of our civilization and all species in general ever experienced upon this world.

That was a great appetizer. Now let's get to the main course!

I'm with Sandy, heart intelligence is key. There has been a noticeable lack of it of late in the world at large, if one was to believe the mainstream media. Although it doesn't seem to be true in my personal experience. People are the same the world over. They have the same aspirations and the same ideals. None of them include killing or war or punishment or fear or starvation or disease. Instead, we all want to be loved, respected, at peace, healthy, properous, happy and useful.

Funny thing about love is, the more love you give the more love you have to give away. It's the whole give and receive thing.

That's abundance.

CdnSirian
11th August 2012, 20:45
Hi CdnSirian:

One of those that I name is that stuck Level 3 guy. Almost nobody sees the big picture, but only see their little corner of it and think they have it figured out.

Best,

Wade

That surprises me, although I have not viewed all their material yet. One would think it would be easy for either of them to get the abundance paradigm. But, people are people, as they say.

Wade Frazier
11th August 2012, 22:34
Hi Ernie:

On Earth’s past, the geological epochs that I have been referring to were identified long before radioactive dating was discovered. They were given their relative dates by the fossils found in them. A great deal of that predated Darwin’s theory of evolution. Then Darwin’s theory came along (and yes, I am aware that he was far from the first to propose evolution as a theory, but he gets a lot of credit), and a lot became clearer in the fossil record.

The radioactive dating methods, and there are quite a few of them, agreed with all of the relative dates, as far as what were considered the older layers were indeed found to be the older layers. And scientists have been putting absolute dates on the fossils ever since. It is a highly-developed science that I cannot do justice to here, but they can now date stuff that is far smaller than a pinhead. Many fringe theorists challenge the dating methods, and propose events that make it all invalid, but when I have looked into them, none of it held up very well, mostly being on the order of highly speculative theory that has almost no unequivocal evidence to back it up. A scientist would not even call them theories, but ad hoc hypotheses.

And, as I have written, we have an obvious unequivocal timekeeping device, which is the snail’s trail that the hotspot that spawned the Hawaiian Islands:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=491738&viewfull=1#post491738

has left on the ocean floor. Those islands have been moving at about the speed of a fingernail’s growth for eighty million years. And when they sampled the underwater seamounts that were predicted to have formed many millions of years ago, the radioactive dating confirmed the speed of the snail’s trail. That is far from the only correlation like that. When they find meteorites that seem to have formed when our solar system formed, they date them with the radioactive dating, and they confirm their ancient age:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondrite

When we brought back moon rocks from the Apollo missions (yes, we really went! :) http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#apollo ), the ages of the rocks also confirm the theories of the moon’s origin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rock

I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy for nearly twenty years. Many in the controversy acted quite dishonorably, such as Carl Sagan:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#velikovsky

but while Einstein graciously gave Velikovsky his time, and Velikovsky’s prediction that Jupiter would emit radio waves astounded Einstein, to the point where Einstein had Worlds in Collision open on his desk when he died, I know of no serious astronomer who believes that Venus is only a few thousand years old. I get emails all the time on the latest Velikovskian news, and about the only people promoting Velikovsky’s theories are journalists, English teachers, and other non-scientists. You never found Brian O, the only planetary scientist in the astronaut program in the 1960s, promoting Velikovsky’s theories of a young Venus.

Similarly, I know of no serious geologist who buys the abiotic oil theory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

If you study Velikovsky’s theories, or those of the Stalinist scientists who were the pioneers of abiotic oil theory, they were formed before plate tectonic theory was developed, for instance. And techniques such as determining carbon 12/13 ratios have really put the nails in the coffin of the abiotic oil theory.

So, when I see the challenges to White Science on Earth’s past, I always have come away unimpressed. On first blush, a lot of it can seem credible, but on closer inspection, the theories crumble in the face of the evidence. In some ways, that stuff is like the moon landings. The disinformation and discredited theories are recycled continually among the scientifically illiterate:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43871-Moon-Hoax-Controversy&p=478010#post478010

in tabloid style. So, when you say that the orthodox theories of Earth’ past are flawed, just how are they? It is true that neutrino fluxes affect radioactive decay, but the people who have found evidence of it are not saying that you can just throw out radioactive dating.

There is plenty of fringe theorizing on a highly variable solar output, but again, virtually none of them are scientists in the field of studying the sun or other stars. I am certainly not saying that White Science has it all figured out, and I know some of what is in the Golden Hoard of Black Science, but I have yet to encounter anything really impressive on alternative geology that argues for a story markedly different than what professional geologists, paleontologists, and other scientists have pieced together over the past few centuries. The fossil record is very clear, and radioactive dating, combined with geomagnetic studies and measurements of what the tectonic plates are doing today, along with a great deal of other evidence, such as evolutionary theory, have created a highly robust story that no fringe theory that I know of can come close to challenging. When somebody says that they have something that overturns it all, I have never seen any of it amount to much, as the fringe author tried to make a mountain out of a molehill.

I have a very intentional way that I am going about this. I am trying to help my readers think comprehensively, and when they do, they will see that the energy issue is front and center and always has been. Then the tabloid topics might get less play at Avalon and on my threads, but that is probably wishful thinking. :) Getting people focused on what is important is like herding cats – not just at Avalon, but everywhere. That is where comprehensive thinking comes into the picture. I was doing it for many years before I heard that there was a name for what I was doing.

Hi CdnSirian:

The obtuseness of a leading open source prophet is just par for the course. I have been at this for most of my life, and all of us had our dismaying moments when trying to engage people, people who you would think would be receptive. I had my eyes opened regarding the environmentalists in the 1980s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

and Brian O found that out the hard way ten years later:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

That is why I say that I am looking for needles in haystacks. The so-called Radical Left pursues a very tame sort of “radicalism”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm

Again, there is no group on Earth that gets it, except Godzilla. :) He knows very well what I am writing about, but almost nobody else on Earth does. :(

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th August 2012, 23:34
Hi:

In the midst of chores, I want to make something clear if it is not already. My mantra that it will take heart-centered sentience to get us over the hump is not some theory that I dreamed up one day; it is the product of a lifetime spent in these issues, but most importantly, it is informed by my efforts to help make FE happen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

Even people close to me do not understand it. If I had not taken my odyssey with Dennis, which that damned voice led me on, I would very likely have nothing worth saying. My perspective came about due to my experiences, and what traumatizing experiences they were. Study and book-learning have their place, but it is really a small place. The greatest teacher is experience, not books and theories.

Scholars have studied warfare their entire lives, but there is nothing to bring the reality home like a few minutes on a battlefield. Scholars without experience, proposing theories, can be like kids playing games. That is partly why I have no respect for armchair “skeptics,” even the few who might even be honest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

Back to chores.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th August 2012, 22:29
Hi:

Back to apes. The mystic does not believe that life is an accident in a universe that exists for unknown reasons. Whether life was seeded here by extraterrestrial civilizations, or life somehow bootstrapped itself from inanimate raw materials on solutions far from their equilibrium state, in the end, I consider the distinction fairly minor. I know that consciousness is something far, far beyond the grasp of the chemical, materialistic models of White Science. But a person needs direct personal experience to really begin to understand. If I had not had my mystical awakening in a meditation training class:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

the rest of my odyssey might not have happened. Brian O had his mystical awakening performing the exact same exercise, which today is called a remote viewing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote

It ruined both of us as White Scientists, although it would take us some time to realize it.

Also, everybody whom I really respect in the FE field is, to one degree or another, a mystic, and that was always due to their direct personal experience, not indoctrination into a belief system. History’s greatest physicists were also, to one degree or another, a bunch of mystics:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

They all realized the limits of White Science. That does not make the New Age stuff or Fringe Science stuff valid, and arguably most of it is not, but the materialistic framework is a limiting one. Isolating a mechanism does not solve the big picture. With those caveats aside, I respect a great deal of what White Science has discovered, but I am cautious of its limits, especially where the nature of consciousness is concerned, which White Science has really not even begun to explore, but there is where it will find God, or at least hints that point in that direction, and it is an inner journey, not an outer one, which confounds today’s White Scientists.

The last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees lived several million years ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=536013&viewfull=1#post536013

Mammals had relatively large brains from their earliest days, and primates and cetaceans grew the largest brains in the animal kingdom. What that all means is still poorly understood from a White Science perspective, but for the mammals with the ability to manipulate objects with its prehensile paws, eventually large species evolved, and the great apes are humanity’s closest cousins, and studies of them have been profitable, for those who can admit that humans are apes (Ilie’s favorite part :) ):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528110&highlight=chimpanzee#post528110

Human culture is really one a difference of degree from the other great apes, not of kind, although the debate can be a fierce one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture#Biological_anthropology:_the_evolution_of_culture

But every year, more discoveries are made that demonstrate that what was once considered the sole province of us smart humans is comprixed of traits and behaviors shared by many other species, not just great apes.

Even ants use tools:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals#Insects

and cetacean intelligence is hotly debated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean_intelligence

Again, when I recently hung out with a dolphin community, they considered dolphins their peers, and the ability of dolphins to read minds is universally acknowledged in those circles, because of their experiences with that ability:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=511613&viewfull=1#post511613

White Science has barely begun to understand the “intelligence” issue, but its findings shed light on human behavior and traits that we take for granted. For instance, the dimorphism of humans has been that way for millions of years. All great apes are dimorphic, and can be far more dramatic than human dimorphism, such as with gorillas, where males are twice the size of females:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla#Physical_characteristics

Sexual dimorphism is thought to be a result of how animals choose their mates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism#Evolution

and how animals mate is a key aspect of great ape culture. Much of human mating dynamics have their analog in how great apes mate. One of the more painful areas of research is male sexual coercion of females among primates (see Muller and Wrangham’s Sexual Coercion in Primates and Humans, for instance). It is not confined to great apes, as spider monkeys and baboons do it, and dolphins can do it, too. :(

It comes down to a cost-benefit issue, it seems. A female invests a great deal of her life’s energy being a mother, while a male can get away with only “donating” sperm. Mating dynamics dominate great ape behavior. Orangutans have males that come in two sizes: one is the classic “flanged” male that is the preferred mate of females (kind of like how a muscular, hairy-chested, broad shouldered man tends to attract the ladies), and unflanged males resort to raping the females when they get the chance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutans#Reproduction_and_parenting

But male orangs have almost no parental duties, with females doing all the parenting. Orangs appear to have some culture, even though they have nothing like a nuclear family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutans#Tool_use_and_culture

Although the distance of orangs from humans is still debated in orthodoxy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=533612&highlight=orangs#post533612

of the great apes, their social structure is the furthest from humanity’s. Gorillas are the next furthest away, and their social organization is dominated by the huge silverback male and his harem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla#Social_structure

with gangs of males that seek to overthrow the silverbacks and set themselves up as the new patriarchs. There are differences between the social structures of mountain and lowland gorillas, but in both, the silverback male is the benevolent patriarch if he has a harem to himself. But in groups with more than one silverback, or when male gangs challenge the silverback’s position, then the aggression against the females increases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla#Social_structure

If a silverback is overthrown, the new leader will kill the infant gorillas that aren’t his. The selfish-gene theory (a term coined by our friend Dawkins):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Selfish_Gene

posits that the will to reproduce and leave behind offspring leads to that infanticide. It might be surprising to humans, but the female gorilla will then mate with the murderer of her offspring. A fertile female’s genes are guaranteed to reproduce, but unrequited males are commonly found in mammals with harems, such as elephant seals.

http://www.marinebio.net/marinescience/05nekton/esrepro.htm

That infant-killing dynamic is not confined to gorillas, but chimpanzees and even predators such as lions do it. The current thinking is that killing the infants brings the mothers back into mating season, so the killers can procreate. That is a big difference between the great apes and humans. As Wrangham has written, evolution has a lot to answer for, as behaviors like that abound in nature.

In our closest cousins, the chimpanzees, it is a variation of the gorilla dynamic. Chimpanzee troops are not dominated by one male chimp, but by hierarchical gangs of males, and the most politically-savvy male that forms the most effective alliances becomes dominant; not necessarily the strongest one. Male chimpanzees use carrots and sticks to induce females to mate with them, but what makes chimps very different from gorillas is that they regularly coerce females to mate by violence. Male chimps regularly “batter” the females, to get mating privileges. Female chimps are also known to band together and choose their “leader” alpha male, and can oust the alpha male that does not provide the goods, but chimpanzee society is dominated by violent males.

Female chimps have monthly menstrual cycles like humans do, and there is obvious swelling with female chimps when they are fertile. In general, the dominant males mate with the females when they seem likeliest to conceive, but female chimps are the most promiscuous great ape. One theory is that a promiscuous female increases the odds of her offspring surviving if the males are unsure of their paternity. There are several competing theories, but the confused paternity theory is a leading one (see Jon Cohen’s Almost Chimpanzee, where he names the confusion strategy “Who’s Your Daddy?”), and it is likely a combination of factors.

Chimpanzees are the most carnivorous and violent great apes, and they are known to engage in genocide by wiping out neighboring bands. Gorillas are adapted to eat more leafy matter than chimpanzees are. They can stay in one place better than chimpanzees do, so they tend to stay in relatively small territories compared to chimpanzees. The majority of orangutan and chimpanzee diets are fruit, and chimpanzees seasonally hunt when their foraging opportunities decline. Of the great apes, chimpanzees have lifestyles closest to what early hunter-gatherer humans are believed to have had.

Those advancing and retreating ice sheets of the current ice age made the rainforests grow and shrink.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=536013&viewfull=1#post536013

North of the Congo River:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_River

gorillas and chimpanzees share the same range, and the gorillas “won” in that they can eat the leafier matter and don’t have to forage so far. But gorillas need a rainforest to produce that lush leafy matter. Chimpanzees got the short end of the deal and have to travel more to fill their bellies (being far smaller must have something to do with it –in a chimp and gorilla fight, the chimp does not stand a chance http://www.monkeyday.org/2005/07/gorilla-versus-chimp-at-jacksonville.html ).

Less than a million years ago, however, something extraordinary happened. During one of those periods when the ice sheets advanced, the rainforest shrank to the degree that gorillas abandoned the land south of the Congo. Then the chimpanzees south of the Congo did not have gorillas eating the leaves, and those chimpanzees then evolved to eat more leaves. That sudden increase in available food initiated a radical change on the southern chimp political economy.

The chimps north of the Congo forage in bands, seeking fruit trees, and those foraging bands were small and dominated by males. In the southern forests where the gorillas migrated away and never returned, the foraging parties could be larger (a widely fluctuating 2-9 for the northern chimps, and about a stable 16 for the southern chimps), with more females in them, as they all ate more leafy matter. The females eventually took over and ended male aggression and dominance, and those southern chimpanzees are considered a new species, the bonobo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

They are the chimps that make love, not war. Sex, not violence, is the locus of bonobo social interaction. Humans branched from the chimpanzee line several million years ago, but I find it highly interesting that a more abundant energy supply became the foundation of a gentle chimpanzee society. Wrangham and Peterson wrote in their Demonic Males,

“Bonobos have evolved in a forest that is kindlier in its food supply, and that allows them to be kindly, too.”

It can be enlightening to study our great ape cousins, but we are obviously different, although maybe not as much as people would like to think. Our ancestors left the trees, we grew large brains, and our social behavior is far more complex than that of our great ape cousins. A leading theory of human brain development is that our brains grew in response to increasing demands brought on by more complex social dynamics. But I will leave our cousins aside for now and focus on the ape line that led to us, and that will be in future posts, which are coming soon.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th August 2012, 16:17
Hi:

OK, let’s go back to when the ancestor of chimps and humans lived, about five million years ago. It likely looked like a chimp, because the environment that chimps live in has not changed much in the meantime. Chimps nest in trees, and a chimp makes a new nest every night. Gorillas are the only great ape to make nests on the ground (although they also make them in trees), because nothing really preys on them. They are truly kings of the jungle. Chimps do not suffer that badly from predation themselves, because they can fight in groups. Leopards and lions seem to be the greatest threats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_chimpanzee#Ecology

Tigers are the main predators of orangutans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan#Ecology_and_behaviour

Chimps not only use tools, but they make tools, even spears:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_chimpanzee#Tool_use

Chimps are a window into the human past, and much about them is currently thought to give strong hints of how our common ancestor might have behaved.

Ardi is the earliest creature that seems to be a descendant down the line from the chimp/human ancestor that led to humans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardi

Ardi could navigate in the trees and on the ground. The canine teeth of Ardi were smaller than the other great apes, suggesting that alpha male dynamics may have become more muted early on, before brains grew and protohumans left the trees.

The famous Lucy skeleton is the first that walked fully upright.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

Lucy’s brain was still ape-sized; the spectacular enlargement came later, which provides evidence of the positive feedback effect on enlarging the brain.

About 2.6 million years ago, the first stone tools were made by protohumans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_tool#Mode_I:_The_Oldowan_Industry

There were obviously other tools made by protohumans, but only the stone tools have survived to be examined. There is debate over the creators of those early stone tools, where they were an australopithecus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_garhi

or homo habilis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_habilis

Homo habilis is generally considered to be the first member of the genus homo, which led to humans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo

although the fossil record is so sparse that other contenders have appeared recently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_gautengensis

and more likely will. What was once considered the “missing link” has largely fragmented into missing linklets as more fossils are discovered.

Homo habilis was a staple in the predatory cat diet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_habilis#Interpretations

And as is typical in evolution, there were evolutionary branches that spawned a fair number of protohuman species. They have all died out except for humans, but quite a few had their day in the sun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Humanevolutionchart.jpg

The primary dynamic of those early protohuman days that the investigation and theory revolves around is walking upright freed the hands for tool-making, which led to the feasibility of exploiting new habitats and new foods. The brain of homo habilis is about 50% larger than the australopithecus species that it descended from.

The likely progression is that protohumans left the rainforest for woodlands, and their diet had to change. In Wrangham and Peterson’s Demonic Males, they posit that the changes in tooth and jaw structure of the early woodland apes seem to have been an adaptation to eating roots, which would have been the logical food that would have been newly available as the rainforest was left behind. The loss of the sagittal crest, which supports strong chewing muscles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittal_crest

is currently thought to have freed up the skull to allow the brain to expand. While some early hominins had large sagittal crests:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranthropus

the line that led to humans lost it.

At some stage, the trees were left behind and those upright apes made the ground their permanent home, not the trees. The trends in evidence for nearly two million years were spectacularly increasing brain size, increasing sophistication in stone tools, and the likelihood that those protohumans began to hunt with their expanding toolset.

A little less than two million years ago, homo erectus appeared on the scene, and it was a highly significant member of our evolutionary line. There is still debate whether homo erectus and homo ergaster are separate species:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Erectus#Classification_and_special_distinction

Homo erectus had a brain more than twice as large as australopithecus species:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:BrainTree.pdf&page=1

Homo erectus was nearly six feet tall, and homo erectus left its African home and migrated to Eurasia. At some stage, homo erectus achieved the great energy feat which separated it from all animals that went before it: the mastery of fire. Maintaining a fire is an unprecedented social act, where a community organizes itself to stoke a fire. In Richard Wrangham’s Catching Fire, he proposes the radical hypothesis that humans could not fully leave the trees until they had a way to keep predators at bay. Wrangham posits that the mastery of fire happened far earlier than is currently hypothesized, and that it may have been mastered nearly two million years ago, and led to the appearance of homo erectus.

Some of the greatest anatomical changes yet recorded are those that separated homo erectus from its habiline ancestors. The homo erectus tooth changed more than for any member of the human line for six million years, as it became far smaller. Homo erectus lost the ability to navigate in trees, and its gut became smaller. What is not very controversial is that the smaller gut meant that the protohuman diet became easier to digest. Some think that it was because protohumans began eating more meat, which was indeed the case, but Wrangham makes the case that those changes in homo erectus anatomy were due to the effects of cooking food. It is universally acknowledged that homo erectus mastered fire, but Wrangham pushes it back nearly a million years, arguing that mastering fire led to homo erectus. Wrangham argues that the savanna was a poor candidate for preserving evidence of fires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Erectus#Use_of_fire

The debate has been lively, but what is not debated is that homo erectus is the first protohuman to leave Africa, and it is the first to have practiced the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Leaving its home behind could not have happened unless homo erectus was supremely adaptable to the new environs. Hunting would have been a universal way to adapt to life beyond the tropics. Also, this all happened during the current ice age, with advancing and retreating ice sheets, which introduced radical changes in the climate and vegetation. Hunting could have been a “constant” for homo erectus during the incredibly long time of its existence, of about 1.5 million years, which is far longer than any other member of the human line.

It is time to run off to work, and more is coming soon.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
15th August 2012, 14:57
Hi:

Wrangham’s cooking hypothesis is pretty strong, IMO. One effect of cooking is that it predigests food. Gorillas have a large gut, to digest all that leafy matter. Homo erectus’s shrinking gut was part of a trend. Not only were guts smaller, but it took less energy to digest food. That meant more available energy for protohumans, and that energy was largely used to run the protohuman’s enlarging brain. The human brain is an energy hog, consuming about ten times as much energy as average flesh does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain#Metabolism

It is the highest performance organ, and increasing energy efficiency in digestion helped make it possible. Also, less time is needed for chewing. If people ate the chimpanzee diet, they would be chewing for five hours a day compared to the one hour a day that the average human child does today. That time was spent in other activities, stimulating the brain.

There are downsides to cooking, such as increasing free radicals, which age us, but the vagaries of the preindustrial existence limited the human lifespan. A farmer in the British Isles in the 1200s had a life expectancy of about 25 years, and that was for those that survived childhood. Free radical damage was not a limiting factor until life expectancies rose during the industrial age.

Chimpanzees can hunt in groups. Somewhere along the line, protohumans transitioned from being scavengers to predators. Homo erectus was a predator, and because it evolved in Africa and soon moved to Asia, African and Asian megafauna had more than a million years of evolution around those weapon-bearing protohumans, and learned to fear and avoid them. Consequently, the megafauna of Africa and Asia survived the arrival of those bipeds in better shape than anywhere else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Africa_and_Asia

When humans began to invade the other continents, the megafaunal extinctions were nearly total:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Australia_and_New_Guinea

After the easy meat was rendered extinct, the Domestication Revolution happened independently in several places on Earth. But let’s back up again to those early protohumans.

Homo erectus was about the first protohuman to leave Africa, but it was far from the last. Not long after protohumans migrated to Asia, likely following the migrations of African animals, some migrated to Southern Europe. The brain of homo erectus was still only about two-thirds the size of today’s human brain. Quite a few species appeared on the scene after homo erectus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_(genus)#Species

generally appearing in Africa and migrating to Europe and Asia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Humanevolutionchart.jpg

They keep finding more fossils of previously unknown species:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisova_hominin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis

Perhaps somewhat ironically, as the fossil record becomes more robust as we come closer to today, the controversies become fiercer, as the human ego rears its head.

Language may have begun developing as early as homo habilis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language#Origin

but the issue is controversial. In my lifetime, it was thought that Neanderthals could not speak:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_speech#Could_the_Neanderthals_speak.3F

Now, it is thought that Neanderthals had speech capability not markedly different than homo sapiens. Stone tools kept getting more sophisticated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_artefact#Evolutionary_development_of_technocomplexes

Again, the interaction of tools, environment, and biology are thought to have led to the appearance of humans. Our tools made us. The advancing and retreating ice sheets certainly affected human evolution, and somewhere around 200K years ago, anatomically modern humans appeared on the scene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#H._sapiens

The evidence is strong that humans first appeared in African and began to migrate from Africa between 125K and 70K years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans#Movement_out_of_Africa

They had the most advanced toolset yet, the largest brain, and about 80K years ago, the first symbols may have appeared on the evolutionary scene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language#Origin

I have to run to work now, but will continue the human journey in future posts.

Best,

Wade

4evrneo
15th August 2012, 18:48
Welcome Wade ! I have read much of your story and give you many thanks for sharing such a courageous journey. My soul has told me that this dream does exist, not sure where in the timeline, but it already exists in my mind and I will not let it leave my focus.
All the best to you,
Annette

Wade Frazier
16th August 2012, 03:18
Hi 4evrneo:

Thanks for lending your awareness to this issue. It helps.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
16th August 2012, 03:21
Hi:

Going to bed now, but…

By this weekend, there will be 200K views of the thread. For what I am trying to do, I would much rather have 1,000 people who have visited 200 times than 20,000 people who visited ten times (or 200K once each :) ). It seems to be more like the first scenario, and that is what I am intending. We are going to need to go deep to achieve and maintain the vision.

Best,

Wade

Ixopoborn
16th August 2012, 09:56
I am certainly an avid reader Wade :cool:.

Chris Gilbert
16th August 2012, 15:18
Hey Wade, just wanted to say that your writings have greatly inspired me over the years. :) I first started studying your page back in 2002-2003, and it permanently changed the way I view the world.

The abundance vs scarcity shift that needs to occur in our collective awareness and thinking is definitely the key issue. Even if free energy is not implemented for some time, a shift to abundance based thinking would still initiate great improvements in other areas. I've been try to promote public banking (www.webofdebt.com) for this very reason.

Wade Frazier
16th August 2012, 15:46
Hi Ixopoborn:

My wife is a cat person, and she has seen your icon in the past and remarked how I am attracting the kitties. :) Happy you are here.

When biologists study ecosystems, both living and extinct, one rule seems to be that life forms will breed to the limits of the nutrient supply, which is primarily energy. If we go back to Liebig’s Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_Law_of_the_Minimum

other nutrients can limit growth. In water-based ecosystems such as lakes and oceans, nitrogen and phosphorus are often the limiting factors. People do not seem to generally realize it, but most of Earth’s oceans are the equivalent of deserts. Most of the world’s fish catch is made close to a coastline. The blue patches in the oceans at the link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_fisheries#Biomass

are where photosynthesis is lowest, and hence the most barren oceanic ecosystems. That is because the phosphorus and nitrogen almost exclusively come from runoff from land. When microscopic life gets ahold of those nutrients, it uses them. When those organisms die, they sink to the ocean floor and are removed from the photosynthetic ecosystem. Near the coasts and poles is upwelling from the ocean floor, which recycles some of those nutrients. There are seasonal blooms in lakes and oceans, which are caused by the available nutrients. The bloom ends when the nutrients are used up. Every life form reproduces to the extent of its capacity, filling up its niche. Anthropologists see humans as no different. Richard Heinberg (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm ) even likened humans to those aquatic blooms, reproducing like crazy until the nutrients were used up. He said it in a sympathetic way, but the analogy is apt, and from its earliest days, humans used their increasing technological prowess for windfall energy gains, using it until it was used up, and then searching for the next windfall.

Anatomically-modern humans appeared on the scene around 200K years ago, in Africa. But it was not until about 50,000 years ago that those modern humans attained the technological prowess that led to the golden age of the hunter gatherer. I have mentioned in this thread the increasing toolset of today’s scientists and the increasing multidisciplinary nature of their efforts.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=531531&highlight=spectrometers#post531531

Another area where the tools and findings have been growing by leaps and bounds lately is in genetic research. Scientists are mapping DNA and isolating what parts of the strands do what. It is not confined to humans, and the DNA of plants and animals are being subjected to that mapping, and scientists have even been extracting DNA from fossils. The Neanderthal DNA has been sequenced:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_DNA_genome_project

and there is great controversy being generated over its findings. In the recent The 10,000 Year Explosion, the authors make the case that interbreeding between Neanderthals and homo sapiens led to the brain changes that initiated the Great Leap Forward of 40K to 50K years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward_(evolution)

If people want to invoke ET influence here, either genetically or culturally, they can, but White Scientists don’t go there, understandably, and their theories may be the right ones, and outside intervention may not need to be invoked to explain those epochal events in the human journey. The interventionist theories have little or no support for them, but are on the order of myths and legends.

The authors of The 10,000 Year Explosion also speculate that the humans that migrated to New Guinea and Australia did not benefit from that interbreeding with Neanderthals, so those peoples were the most “primitive” humans on the planet when Europeans eventually encountered them. An Australian aborigine has brow ridges and a skull that is twice as thick as those of all other humans. Of course, with our bloody history of racism, this is a highly charged subject, and humanity cannot really objectively study itself, but scientists are trying, using the “just another species” mantra when they can.

As I stated earlier, African and Asian megafauna evolved alongside homo erectus and other protohumans for more than a million years, and learned to fear and avoid them.

Somewhere between 60K and 50K years ago, before The Great Leap Forward, humans arrived, probably by boat, to Australia. They did not have the extensive toolkit of Upper Paleolithic humans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Paleolithic

but they had fire. At some time in our hoary past, humans began to use fire to transform the ecosystems, to make them human-friendlier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_of_fire_by_early_humans

As evolution never stops, the ecosystems evolved to adapt to the new variable. Some plants today thrive in environments that are regularly burned, and in fact some seeds will not germinate unless subjected to fire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_ecology#Plants

Using fire to affect the ecosystems was humanity’s first great act of environmental impact. The Australian ecosystem is the first significant "virgin" one to face the impact of those intelligent bipeds, with weaponry and fire at hand. The invading humans drove all of the Australian megafauna to extinction in a few thousand years, and rampant burning of the vegetation may have been the primary culprit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

A little over 40,000 years ago, a land bridge formed to Tasmania, and humans crossed and quickly drove the Tasmanian megafauna to extinction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmanian_Aborigines#Before_European_settlement

The rising oceans of this interglacial period isolated Tasmania from Australia, and the Tasmanian aborigines were isolated from the rest of humanity for 8,000 years, until the Europeans arrived and quickly drove them to extinction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmanian_Aborigines#After_European_settlement

Of course, the Europeans were always excellent rapists, so plenty of Tasmanian DNA still exists in hybrid populations, but the last full-blood Tasmanian died in 1876, in less than a hundred years of British colonization.

I have to run to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th August 2012, 03:03
Hi Enishi:

Well met, and glad that you got something from my work.

I cite Ellen Brown’s Forbidden Medicine a few times in my medical racket essay, around what the FDA did to Jimmy Keller:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#keller

There is good work going on out there, on many fronts, but energy is the big one, and I have been pouring my life’s energy into it for a very long time. Somebody has to do it, and I am trying to help something manifest that I have never seen before, but I know will be helpful if it appears and it may be critical (and engaged, aware, and comprehensive-thinking nucleus of people that may be able to create some harmonic effects in human awareness). This string of posts on my upcoming essay is probably not even halfway through what I plan to cover. I look back when I started it, and I said it would last a week:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=516792&viewfull=1#post516792

That is my usual foolishness, as we are now six weeks into it, and not quite halfway through with it. If nothing else, I think that the daunting scope of what I am taking on is becoming evident. I could not do the subjects justice if I spent my next five lifetimes on the task, but there is a method to my madness and what I hope to achieve with that essay.

I harbor some hope that this string of posts will help people begin to think comprehensively before I get that essay published.

Best,

Wade

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Hi:

My PM cache is full. I think that I can’t make or receive any more until I do some cleaning. I don’t read all of my PMs, I am sorry to say. I only have so much time, and I try to focus on this thread as best I can, in my “spare” time. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
17th August 2012, 15:48
Hi:

Around 45K-50K years ago, anatomically-modern humans had their Great Leap Forward. Maybe it had something to do with ingesting some Neanderthal DNA. If that was the case, that was the only part of the Neanderthals that survived. Neanderthals became extinct about 20K years after the Great Leap Forward began. The appearance of modern humans did only not mean the end of most of the world’s megafauna; there were also several human species alive when the Great Leap Forward happened, and they all went extinct as modern humans filled all niches. There were even some homo erecti around:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils#Upper_Paleolithic:_50.2C000_-_10.2C000_years_old

The Great Leap Forward had many aspects. Tools and weapons became far more sophisticated. Fancy grave goods became common. Long-distance trade developed. Art developed.

Cave paintings go back about 40K years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupestrian_art#Age

and porn quickly appeared. :)

http://artmarketmonitor.com/2012/05/15/cave-painting-porn-discovered/

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-22/man-woman/32316276_1_rock-art-cave-paintings-oldest-art

And recently, it is thought that a lot of that kind of art was drawn by the equivalent of horny teenage boys:

http://www.livescience.com/7028-ancient-cave-art-full-teenage-graffiti.html

Our high culture has deep roots. :)

The earliest known ceramics are nearly 30K years old:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery#History

and art of the female body predominates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravettian

While there has never been a truly matriarchal society that anthropologists can find, it is thought that those ancient Venus statuettes were religious artifacts, not pornographic. Women were seen as the source of life.

The hunter-gatherer societies of culturally modern humans eventually spread to all continents except Antarctica, and few islands were spared the human presence. The African and Asian megafauna did not all survive, either:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Africa_and_Asia

The fiercest debate on the megafaunal extinctions is regarding what happened near the ice sheets of the Northern Hemisphere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Northern_Eurasia

It is true that Earth’s vegetation patterns changed dramatically during the last 2.5 million years, as the ice sheets advanced and retreated, but similar to how gorillas abandoned the land south of the Congo River, making way for bonobos to evolve:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=537104&highlight=bonobos#post537104

all that megafauna that quickly went extinct when those super-predator humans arrived had survived literally dozens of glacial intervals, to all suddenly go extinct just when the irresistible predator arrived. I don’t buy the “the vegetation changed” theorizing and scientific papers that I see out there, or bolide impact theorizing, and so on. Humans are megafauna, and it takes a lot to feed them. The greatest windfall energy resource as those humans invaded the planet would have been those large animals. As humans invaded ecosystems that had not ever seen humanoids, not much of the plant life would have been edible, nor would those invading humans have immediately known what was edible. But all the large animals were. I see hints of the human ego, defending our rapacious ancestors, whenever I see scientists try to explain the megafaunal extinctions as some sort of environmental effect, no matter how scholarly and rigorous the efforts may seem. Human are super-killers, and have been that way since the beginning. That period when humans spread across the planet I call the Golden Age of the Hunter-Gatherer. Virgin fields beckoned, and our ancestors raped and plundered their way across the planet. How could it have been any other way? Leaving our ecological niche and invading other ecosystems necessarily meant that the other species that we either found edible or competed with us was going to be preyed upon. Nothing on Earth could withstand the onslaught, and nothing did. The elephants of the Western Hemisphere all went extinct, even in South America, where there were never any continental ice sheets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#South_America

Mammoths survived for several thousand years on islands that those early humans did not invade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrangel_Island#Fauna_and_flora

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Paul_Island,_Alaska#Natural_history

long after their continental brethren went extinct, at least until humans arrived, and then they quickly went extinct. Some ground sloths similarly survived the holocaust on the mainland, to only go extinct when humans arrived on the Caribbean islands:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalocnus

Like it or not, this is our heritage. Not only were humans slaughtering anything that moved, but they slaughtered each other. Many of the recent finds in bogs and melting glaciers, of uncannily preserved humans, find that the people died violently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%c3%96tzi_the_Iceman#Cause_of_death

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/alken-enge-danish-bog-remains_n_1776654.html

The most proportionally-violent era in human history is its hunter-gatherer phase. Anthropologists can only find rare exceptions where pre-agricultural peoples did not regularly kill each other, especially as territories and the food supply shrank as humans multiplied and killed off all the easy meat. In fact, scientists today figure that those hunter-gatherer populations were kept in check by violence, not by disease or starvation. The only apocalyptic horseman back then was warfare. After studying modern-day hunter-gatherers, scientists have determined that about a third of all hunter-gatherer males die violently. The sophisticated tools, weapons, and group tactics that allowed humans to become Earth’s first super-predator that could conquer every ecological niche were turned on each other as the energy ran out from their too-successful energy-extraction efforts.

As the easy meat all died out, the more familiar hunter-gatherer culture developed. The bonobos are the only great ape culture where the females overcame the male penchant for violence. If humans are going to make it, women need to step up, and the freedom of industrialization is what is giving them the opportunity. That window of opportunity is also beginning to close, as we can see with the rapidly-disappearing American middle class, as energy-consumption per capita peaked forty years ago, and Peak Oil is becoming a reality. As Bucky Fuller said, it is a race between education and catastrophe.

The circus over Assange (who foolishly could not keep it in his pants – typical…):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/assange-embassy-uk-ecuador-asylum_n_1788508.html

http://news.yahoo.com/assange-faces-boredom-stress-inside-embassy-141256215.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-west-has-just-become-giant-banana-republic

is just one more sign of the times, and the West’s steep slide into barbarism that is becoming more evident every day.

Somewhere along the line, humans attained what we call sentience. At what stage did it happen? Did it really happen? :) The mystical stuff will say that we became ensouled. Ensouled or sentient, whatever term you prefer, humans became something different. Yes, sex and violence dominated, but there were other attributes. Emotions are also far from the sole province of humans. Many animals have easily-discerned emotional states. The leading theory on emotions is that they are states of feeling, not thinking, and all animals with emotions (which could well be all living things) seek positive emotional states (feel good), and they will do what they can to achieve them. It has been determined that many animals will find substances that make them high,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/30/animals-high-drugs_n_887849.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_17032_7-species-that-get-high-more-than-we-do.html

Animals will use their intelligence to achieve positive emotional states, and humans are no different, although the way that the Eastern masters do it is healthier, it seems. :)

My mystical material says that all emotions are aspects of love, and that humans are learning to attain that state, learning to become creators, as love is the power behind creation. Love and FE are joined at the hip in more than one way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

Just as there are no hungry philosophers, attaining the love state is not easy when people are on the brink of survival. The negative feedbacks of poverty and seeking temporary escape through drugs and other means, that spiral down into violence and other negative states, is obvious in the USA. Godzilla knows this well, which is a key reason why FE is kept under wraps the way that it is. Godzilla keeps FE under wraps for reasons of power, not economics. But economics is how he exerts control, by keeping the great herd on the edge of survival. In that nightmare world that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

the Godzilla game was being played at the highest levels, keeping an entire planet immersed in misery. Of course, I am shooting for a different outcome:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and love and sentience are joined at the hip, and FE is how that world can manifest. When people say that we can have Heaven on Earth without tapping FE, it seems that they never ran the numbers. Low energy societies are never free, because energy is freedom:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5

And my upcoming posts are intended to begin to make that clear. The energy issue underlies everything else, and it has always been that way, clear back to when life first made its appearance on this planet, and even before that:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=518761&viewfull=1#post518761

Gotta run to work now.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
18th August 2012, 20:24
Hi ,

Wade, Your 'madness' is much appreciated and it probably has a method which is partly visible and understood and the rest will be revealed as time goes by.


About apes and humans:

Around ten years ago, I had some spare time while looking for a job and had the great fortune to volunteer and do some work at the nearest Safari Park. much to my delight I was accepted to work with the monkeys and apes as their caregiver, it was five months I will not easily forget.

I love animals. I find it easy to connect with them and I treat them pretty much as equals but not as identical. I was surprised how much similarity was between the behaviour of apes, especially the Gorilla's and the chimpanzees, to that of humans. The first few days were like arriving into a new class, I had to prove myself to them. their inteligence was overwhelming, and they (the chimpanzees) were throwing me some tests over and over again, not to mention that they were actually throwing everything that their hands could grasp (you don't want to know...) they waited to see my reaction. I could not help and laughed heartily, but I explained to them what I am ready and what I am not ready to accept. The chimpanzees showed some manipulative behavior and pretenses worthy of a child of six years old. during feeding time, where I could not yet tell who was who, it happened that I was giving an extra sandwich to one of them just because he was hiding his already recieved sandwich in his hand behind his back and demanded more with the other hand while he made some hungry facial expressions, pointed to his belly and asking " give it to me, give it to me". However, compared to the Gorilla's and Urang utangs they lacked sophistication, it is enough to look at the other nobel giants Straight in the eyes, to see that 'there is someone at home'. the male rullers were impressive looking and one can not feel but respect when connecting with them.

After months of volunteering I felt a deep emotional connection with them, they are operating in a collective behaviour as well as having individual characteristics. There was no need to convince me back then that the origin of man derives from apes. I remember classes of pupils from religious schools where the teacher explains that man is superior to the monkey and there is no genetic link between the two. I struggled to keep silence when observing the human need to separate itself from nature and the sense of superiority that accompanied it. There is one area in which the apes seem to be more developed than us and that is their strength as a tribe. each of them has a clear status and a role they need to play, if they are attacked from the outside they act together. unfortunetly, in a very similiar manner to us (or rather us similiar to them) they operate in a hierarchical structure that includes wars, boycotts and coup attempts against the male ruler, sometimes by one of his offspring who wish to succeed him. Thereforel, from all this, it is very easy to conclude that human beings (all the different types of Homos) are direct descendants from the apes, adding to that the almost complete genetical identity. However, personally, after I got to know a different reality than I thought our world consists of, I do not believe the Darvinian theory is the real story. keeping an open mind that our heritage might be something totally different alltogether is a key... genetic manipulations are performed by humans as we speak, where does it come from?



Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " If people want to invoke ET influence here, either genetically or culturally, they can, but White Scientists don’t go there, understandably, and their theories may be the right ones, and outside intervention may not need to be invoked to explain those epochal events in the human journey. The interventionist theories have little or no support for them, but are on the order of myths and legends."

I wouldn't like to invoke ET influence, for a couple of reasons, first, like Wade said, there is no substantiated evidence to suce claims, other then reliance on indirect material, mostly channeled, and sometimes in accordance with people's testimonies including some senior officials, also from clues drawn from the bible and other old writings. second, I understand the need to stick as closely as possible to the accepted scientific mindset on this thread, so, I am not here to vouch for any of the theories (as if I can.. :p) my inner compass is telling me otherwise then those white science conclusions. Have we ever climbed down from the trees to the ground and did our brains developed into other uses? the later is possibly right. but who knows..


This is an interesting thread to follow. On the one hand there is the readiness to consider some 'esoteric' approaches, for example, the existance of Atlantis (no proof), past lives, expansion of consciousness, Micheal's material, Seth, guidance etc. on the other hand, there is an adherence to scientific speculation in presenting the human beings history. God forbid, I do not criticise, just making an observation. we are one leg here and one leg there... maybe it is a 'live demo' of another chapter in the chain of development of the human race. quite fascinating really!

Melinda
19th August 2012, 03:31
...Around ten years ago, I had some spare time while looking for a job and had the great fortune to volunteer and do some work at the nearest Safari Park. much to my delight I was accepted to work with the monkeys and apes as their caregiver, it was five months I will not easily forget...

...The chimpanzees showed some manipulative behavior and pretenses worthy of a child of six years old. during feeding time, where I could not yet tell who was who, it happened that I was giving an extra sandwich to one of them just because he was hiding his already recieved sandwich in his hand behind his back and demanded more with the other hand while he made some hungry facial expressions, pointed to his belly and asking " give it to me, give it to me". However, compared to the Gorilla's and Urang utangs they lacked sophistication...

Limor, that was such a beautiful post, thank you so much for sharing your story! It was such a pleasure to read. What an amazing experience to have had. Its interesting how you felt the chimps lacked sophistication compared to the Orangutan. Orangutan are such beautiful creatures.

This is Aman. He looks like a very special person.
http://www.neprimatesanctuary.org/Photos-Ed%20Center%20Kick%20Off/CSC_00900-compfordoc.JPG

Given the ample cheek flanges, it may be fair to assume he's the boss in his particular locale. But sometimes I like to think, given its resemblance to a satellite dish, that it enhances the reception of cosmic information (which is probably why I'm not a scientist.) Aman is apparently the first Orangutan to undergo a cataract operation. After the operation he reportedly moved around quite slowly, whilst getting used to his new eyesight, with his eyes focused on the rainforest around his enclosure. But sadly he is considered too big and too powerful to be released back into the wild. His name means "Peace." Last I read, he was living in the Matang Wildlife Centre in Borneo.

'Orangutan' is derived from words meaning 'person of the forest,' or 'forest person.' According to Wikipedia's info... 'the first attestation of the word to name the Asian ape is in Jacobus Bontius' 1631 " Historiae naturalis et medicae Indiae orientalis" - he described that Malaysians had informed him that the ape was able to talk, but preferred not to "lest he be compelled to labour." ' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan#Etymology

According to a Natural World documentary, "For centuries the people of Borneo lived in awe of the red ape, of how it moved unseen through the forest, appearing at will. They believed Orangutans were beings of the spirit world..." ( 3mins54: http://youtu.be/DnGiz8Ns0-8 )

It would be nice to think that a power of invisibility was the reason we've recorded a dwindling in numbers. But it's no excuse for what we allow to happen to them. Hopefully a world of energy abundance would mean an end to the destruction of their habitat, and their personal oppression. A better world in which they choose our company, rather than so forcibly the other way around. The pet trade being hurtful like the hunting trade.

I feel strongly compelled when I see pictures of Orangutan, as if I really am looking at my long-lost family. But I'm not sure if I could organise a reunion.

They really are amazing people.

Earlier today I was listening to this lecture given by the now departed Douglas Adams (author.) He was talking about a variety of animals and how their behaviour can teach us about our own nature, survival and the influence of our environment. In the quote below he speaks about the concept of worrying, and the Kakapo bird...

"My favourite of all the animals we went to see was an animal called the Kakapo. The Kakapo is a kind of parrot. It's a flightless parrot. It's forgotten how to fly. Sadly it has also forgotten that it's forgotten how to fly. So a seriously worried Kakapo has been known to run up a tree and jump out of it. Opinion divides as to what next happens. Some people say it has developed a kind of rudimentary parachuting ability. Other people say it flies a bit like a brick. The thing is, when I talk about a seriously worried Kakapo, the fact is you're not likely to find a seriously worried Kakapo because kakapos have not learned to worry. Now, it seems an extraordinary thing to say because worrying is something we're all so terribly good at, and which comes so absolutely naturally to us, we think it must be as natural as breathing. But it turns out that worrying is simply an acquired habit like anything else. It's something you're genetically disposed to do, or not to do. And the thing is that the Kakapo grew up in New Zealand, which was, until man arrived, a country which had no predators. And it's predators that, over a series of generations, will teach you to worry. And if you don't have predators then the need to worry will never occur to you.... Now it's very very peculiar for us to try and understand this because we have never ever encountered an environment with no predators in it. Why not? Because we are predators and because, therefore, if we are in that environment it is a predator environment."

He goes on, in characteristically humourous fashion, to mention the underlying importance of energy to birds' evolution, the pitfalls of unsuccessful survival strategies, and how, when there's no predatory threat in an environment an animal can be less inclined to overpopulate. It reminded me of the topics that have been covered on this thread. Obviously, as humans, even if we are not worried about another species trying to devour us, there is the threat of shortages that preys on our existence, and makes us prey on each other. What Adams said seems to support the conclusion that if we could indeed share a universal experience of abundance, we would be less likely to overpopulate the planet, and less inclined to worry. An extraordinary new era of human experience. And a most welcome one.

Much later he goes on to talk about how in many ways technology has helped enhance our understanding of the world around us, but says sincerely: "There is a kind of terrible irony that at the point that we are best able to understand and appreciate and value the richness of life around us, we are destroying it at a higher rate than its ever been destroyed before... just because we’re burning the stuff down for firewood."

When an audience member asks him if we can help the situation by setting a higher price for gasoline to reflect the cost of its impact on the environment, he scratches his head and points out: "You look back over the history of what we in the conservation movement have said in the last 10 years and the previous 10 years... most of what we've said we have to do about it, or the ways we've gone about it, have actually turned out to be wrong."

Indeed. Time for a new idea.

From his talk at UCSB, 'Parrots, the Universe and Everything.'
Video: http://keentalks.com/parrots-universe-everything/
(Quotes at 26mins20secs, 1hour6mins25seconds, 1hour17mins42secs.)

David Hughes
19th August 2012, 03:33
Hey,

From my notes on evolution:

Modern humans were thought to have entered Europe and Asia via an exodus from Africa over the Arabian Peninsula that occurred around 60,000 years ago. This theory has been clouded however by the recent discovery of a fossil in Misliya, Israel, which has been dated to between 177,000 and 194,000 years old, suggesting that modern humans began gradually leaving Africa around 200,000 years ago rather than in a big exodus occurring much later. This is further supported by the recent discoveries of human teeth found in a cave in China that date to around 100,000 years old, human fossils found in Sumatra, Indonesia from around 70,000 years ago, and additional fossils previously discovered near Misliya dating to 90,000-120,000 years ago. The mainstream view, known as the recent African origin model, holds that all or nearly all modern human genetic diversity around the world can be traced back to the first anatomically modern humans to leave Africa.

The term anatomically modern humans refers to early individuals of Homo sapiens with an appearance consistent with the range of phenotypes observed in modern humans. A phenotype is the composite of an organism's observable characteristics or traits such as its morphology, development, biochemical or physiological properties, phenology, behavior, and products of behavior. Phenotypes result from the expression of an organism's genes as well as the influence of environmental factors and the interactions between the two. The emergence of anatomically modern humans marks the dawn of the subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens, the subspecies of Homo sapiens that includes all modern humans.

The earliest fossil evidence for anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) had been dated at 195,000 years ago from fossils found in Ethiopia known as the Omo remains. In a 2005 article on the Omo remains in the journal Nature, it was claimed that because of the fossils' age, Ethiopia was the best choice for the "cradle of Homo sapiens", the birthplace of modern humans. A more recent discovery however, of remains found in an old mine in Jebel Irhoud, Morocco have been dated at 300,000 years old. The remains included a partial skull and jawbone, and comparisons with Neanderthal fossils and more ancient human relatives show that the closest match is with anatomically modern humans.

Humans and Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) share over 99% of their DNA and lived alongside each other for tens of thousands of years. The nature of their co-existence and the extinction of Neanderthals has been debated. Suggestions include a peaceful co-existence, competition, interbreeding, assimilation, and genocide. Since 2010, there has been growing evidence for interbreeding between Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans. This interbreeding is reflected in the genomes of modern European and Asian populations. The Qafzeh humans seem to have co-existed with Neanderthals for up to 60,000 years in the Levant (the area encompassed by modern day Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, and Israel). There is also a theory that Neanderthals didn’t go extinct. They simply went where human weren’t, deep into forests and jungles, and this is where they still currently reside (see the work of Lloyd Pye).

Early Neanderthals lived in the Last Glacial age for a span of about 100,000 years. The earliest fossils of Neanderthals in Europe are dated at 430,000 years ago. Because of the damaging effects the glacial period had on the Neanderthal sites, not much is known about the early species. They disappear from the fossil record completely at around 25-30,000 years ago. The most recent supposed common ancestor of Homo sapiens and Neanderthals was thought to be Homo Heidelbergensis. African H. heidelbergensis is also known as Homo rhodesiensis. Genetic evidence from the Sima de los Huesos fossils published in 2016 seem to suggest that Homo heidelbergensis in its entirety should be included in the Neanderthal lineage, as "pre-Neanderthal" or "early Neanderthal", while the divergence time between the Neanderthal and modern lineages has been pushed back to before the emergence of H. heidelbergensis, to about 600,000 to 800,000 years ago, the approximate age of Homo antecessor. Homo antecessor is a proposed archaic human species of the Lower Paleolithic, known to have been present in Western Europe (Spain, England and France) between about 1.2 million and 800,000 years ago. Those who do not accept H. antecessor as a separate species consider the fossils in question to be an early form of H. heidelbergensis or as a European variety of H. erectus.

Neanderthals retained most of the features of H. heidelbergensis after its apparent divergent evolution. Though shorter, Neanderthals were more robust, had large brow-ridges, a slightly protruding face and lack of a prominent chin. They also had a larger brain than all other hominids. Homo sapiens on the other hand have the smallest brows of any known hominid, are tall and lanky, and have a flat face with a protruding chin. H. sapiens have a larger brain than H. heidelbergensis, and a smaller brain than H. neanderthalensis on average. There are large pelvic and torso discrepancies between Neanderthals and H. sapiens. To date, H. sapiens is the only known hominid with a high forehead, flat face, and thin, flat brows. The theory that H. heidelbergensis is ancestral to Homo sapiens is muddied by a fossil gap in Africa between 400,000 and 260,000 years ago which obscures the proposed derivation of H. sapiens from H. rhodesiensis.

European early modern humans (EEMH) in the context of the Upper Paleolithic in Europe refers to the early presence of anatomically modern humans in Europe. The terms "Late Stone Age" and "Upper Paleolithic" refer to the same periods. The term EEMH is equivalent to Cro-Magnon man and is generally preferred over the common name Cro-Magnon, which has no formal taxonomic status as it refers neither to a species or subspecies, nor to an archaeological phase or culture. The earliest known remains of Cro-Magnon-like humans are radiocarbon dated to around 43,000 years before present (it can be argued that Cro-Magnon existed much earlier than this because of the scant fossil record, perhaps as early as 250,000 BC or more). They differ from modern day humans by having a more robust powerful physique and a larger cranial capacity. Their body was generally heavy and solid with a strong musculature. The forehead was straight, with slight brow-ridges and a tall forehead. A distinctive trait was the rectangular eye orbits, similar to those of modern Ainu people. Their vocal apparatus was like that of present-day humans and they could theoretically speak. Their brain capacity was about 1,600cc, larger than the average for modern Europeans. They were like us but not us. Anthropologists think that the final transition from Cro-Magnons into modern humans occurred around 12,000 years ago.

Evidence had suggested that cereal crops were first domesticated in the Fertile Crescent region around 11,500 years ago. The following crops are the eight so-called founder crops of agriculture: emmer and einkorn wheat, hulled barley, peas, lentils, bitter vetch, chick peas, and flax. These eight crops occur more or less simultaneously on Pre-Pottery Neolithic B sites in the Levant, although the consensus is that wheat was the first to be grown and harvested on a significant scale. The earliest archaeological finds of domestic cereals in southwestern Asia have involved wheats and barleys dating from the beginning of the Holocene, 11,000-12000 years ago. More recent evidence from the site of Abu Hureyra however, suggests that systematic cultivation of cereals in fact started well before the end of the Pleistocene by at least 13000 years ago, and that rye was among the first crops. But where did this sudden burst of knowledge come from? Knowing how to go about domesticating wild grasses, grains and cereals is no mean feat.

It has been theorized by Lloyd Pye and others that all pre-human fossils dated before around 250,000 years ago, belong to the hominid fossil record, not ours. The theory goes that the prior 4 million or so years only contain fossils belonging to hominids that were very different to the first Homo Sapiens, too different to be considered part of our human ancestry. We are left with an apparently implausibly brief time period for us to have evolved our much slighter frames and level of intelligence. This has led to theories and speculation that our species was created using a combination of genetic engineering and cross breeding with hominids (Neanderthals most likely). Our supposed creators (the Annunaki from planet Nibiru), genetically manipulated Neanderthals into Cro-Magnon, who then mated with the Annunaki to produce demi-gods, who over time mated with ‘wild’ Cro-Magnons to become humanity as we know it. The Annunaki came from their planet Nibiru around 430,000 years ago (see the writings of Zecharia Sitchin for more details).

The biblical great flood (dated at around 11,000 BC and rejected by orthodox science) at the end of the last Ice Age wiped out the ancient civilizations that had been established over millennia. Dramatic climate changes led to the melting of gigantic icebergs which would have crashed into the sea causing huge tidal waves that swept the globe leading to a considerable rise in sea levels. During the depths of the last ice age 18,000 years ago, when hundreds of thousands of cubic miles of ice were stacked up on the continents as glaciers, the sea level was 120 meters (390 ft) lower than it is today. The destroyed civilizations were then gradually built up again over the next few thousand years. Around 2000 BC, a great power struggle between elite members of our creator being families broke out. This resulted in destruction once again following a series of nuclear exchanges. Shortly after this, the Annunaki decided that they had had their fill of fun on this planet, packed their bags, and went back to Nibiru around 200 BC.

I haven’t had the time or inclination to do much other than to simply familiarize myself with these alternative theories. Much of the ancient civilization and creation theories are rooted in the work of Zecharia Sitchin and his translation and interpretation of ancient texts and ancient ‘myths’, and other astronomical and scientific observations. The theories presented intrigue me but i’ve only just skimmed the surface in this post. The books written by Graham Hancock cover the material in far greater detail.

Some shallow digging based on Sitchen’s work and ancient civilizations recently took me to the mathematical calculations performed on the pyramids and structures on ancient sites around the world from people like Carl Munck. The numbers i’ve seen are mind bogglingly precise, with astronomical considerations even factored in. That can’t be explained away easily, especially not when you consider that something as spectacular as the Great Pyramid was supposedly built using hemp rope and copper chisels by a bunch of dudes just out of the Stone Age who had yet to invent the wheel.

Here are some of the major feats of engineering undertaken to build the Great Pyramid (Cheop’s Pyramid):

1.130 granite blocks were transported from Aswan over 500 miles away. Each block weighed between 25 to 80 tons (the largest African elephants weigh around 7 tons). The blocks were hauled up 210 feet to construct the King’s Chamber.

2. There are 3 chambers inside the pyramid. With extreme precision, a passage was cut through the rock 345.2 feet long, 3.4 feet wide and 3.1 feet high, to reach the lowest chamber. Keeping the passageway at the correct angle of 26° 31'23" would require special precision tools.

3. Around 2.3 million stones of different shapes and sizes were used. This makes accurate building much harder. In spite of this, the Upper Chamber is perfectly horizontal and vertical. The builders got it right to with a 50th of an inch.

4. The structure has stayed in place through many earthquakes which flattened many surrounding structures.

5. The position of the pyramid is absolutely precise. It points north to within five hundredths of a degree.

6. The Great Pyramid actually has 8 sides, not 4. Building an eight sided pyramids is even more complicated than building a 4 sided one.

7. Egyptologists think the pyramid only took 20 years to build. There are over 2 million stone blocks in the pyramid. If they worked 12 hour shifts, 365 days a year, they’d have to quarry, carve, lift and fit one block every 2 and a half minutes.

Again, since the ancient Egyptians didn’t have wheels, iron, or steel, all this was achieved with simple copper chisels, hemp rope and stone mallets. It just doesn’t add up for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooy2LTJoMVM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqy6p-OFfuM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheop%27s_pyramid

The massive stones at Baalbek add further intrigue. Three 800 ton stones cut, transported and maneuvered into place so perfectly it’s almost impossible to insert a needle between them, and a further two stones are estimated at being 1000 and 1200 tons respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baalbek
http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/Mysteries_of_the_World/Baalbek/Baalbek6/baalbek6.html

The precise manner in which megalithic stones are fit together is seen all across the globe. I’ve visited many of the sites, Tikal and Machu Picchu being the most impressive that i’ve seen so far. I’m going to check out some of the ancient sites built around Indochina over the next few months and then the Pyramids in Egypt.

I came across this place recently too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Primitive hunter gatherers with simple flint tools supposedly erected it. The oldest known sphinx was found near Gobekli Tepe at another site, Nevali Çori, or possibly 120 miles to the east at Kortik Tepe, Turkey, and was dated to 9,500 BC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx#The_Riddle_of_the_Sphinx

Fascinating subject matter for sure but for me it's all just an amusing side show with Free Energy remaining the holy grail of sorts.

Further links based on the content of this post:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/25/oldest-known-human-fossil-outside-africa-discovered-in-israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.b.20057/full
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_early_modern_humans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal
https://www.nature.com/news/oldest-ancient-human-dna-details-dawn-of-neanderthals-1.19557
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_heidelbergensis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens_sapiens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omo_remains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenotype
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Paleolithic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1191/095968301678302823
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_agriculture

Limor Wolf
19th August 2012, 13:54
:) AWP, my cheeks spread sideways while reading your post (though, not quite to the size of a satellite dish), and I love that you call the Urangutans -'people'. However, they asked me to tell you not to call them like that anymore.

Thank you for the Douglas Adams lecture, I find the combination of scientific facts and humor good for learning, and I will try to watch it later today.

There are clear similiarities between apes and humans, is that why we find them so Endearing? is it because we see ourselves in them? Is that why chickens do not receive such a loving treatment from us?


Hi David,

Interesting post. There are so many rationalizing done by science today that it is not actually possible to know whether the assumptions are correct or not. for example, the claims as if all people on earth are descendants of the 'mitochondrial Eve woman' is a guess , there could have been for example a multiple women, or a diiferent move altogether.

I am glad you brought up some alternative theories along the more mainstream views, and personally I resonate with your final conclusion that either theories are not backed up enough, even though mainstream science, in comparison, seems to be more established.

There is no doubt that science still needs to uncover a lot, and when it does, some things will make a lot more common sense. One of the problematics is that we, humans, tend to think in a linear way. we think up - down, we think yesterday - tomorrow, This might be why we don't get it. The thing with Avalon members is that we are looking to know more what's out there and we are fed up with what we've been told because it is no longer fits the world as we see it, However, I can see the need to package everything in a way that can be accepted and understood by us, and that is still the 3D way.

Wade's aim in this thread it to redirect our flow of consciousness accompanied by a deep understanding towards what you named as the " The holy grail - FE", I somehow feel that in order to understand the synthesis of what is going on in this planet, we can not allow ourself to rule anything out that might have a grain of truth in it. how it can be done is a totally different story, and I doubt if anyone has a figurative answers at this point



p.s


Originally posted by David Hughs: "There is also a theory that Neandertals didn't go extinct "

From my little corner of the world, I am sorry to say that this assumption can definitely not be rulled out

Wade Frazier
19th August 2012, 15:48
Hi:

Thanks for the posts, everybody. Nice to hear your story, Limor. I have a close relative who is a famous primatologist, who stayed at my house just last week. The story that I have heard her tell about great ape intelligence goes like this. If a tool is left by a workman in a cage and a gorilla finds it, when he realizes that he can’t eat it, he throws it aside. A chimpanzee will return the tool only when he gets food in exchange. When an orang finds the tool, the first thing that he does is surreptitiously look to see if anybody misses it.

Yes, I try to follow White Science as much as I can, especially where I feel that their story is the right one, or when the Fringe Science tale is wanting. Most so-called Fringe Science is not really valid. It is often called a pseudoscience, but I dislike the word, as I have seen it abused a lot by people such as Carl Sagan:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

I understand the sentiment of calling something a pseudoscience, but I have also seen that lead to scientism, which avers that White Science has all the answers or all the tools to find out. Black Scientists laugh at those White Science assertions, and accomplished mystics know that there is a lot more to the world than White Science thinks, and Black Science is not so blinkered, although it is often used in the pursuit of evil. But as David says, the Big One, the one that really matters, is free energy. I know it all too well, I am sorry to say. Of all the Fringe Science issues, FE is the one that Godzilla watches the closest, and the rest of this series of posts should make it clear why energy is the linchpin that it is.

Hi David:

Nice evolutionary summation. I don’t consider myself a Sitchin scholar, but I am somewhat familiar with his work. It is similar in Velikovsky’s, in ways. There are no doubt many mysteries of early humans, but I really have not seen anything that held up, as far as invoking some extraordinary interventions, often ET in nature, to explain those events in our not-too-distant past. We know that evolutionary change can happen very quickly, especially when encouraged by selective breeding. Humans are experts at that selective breeding. Russian scientists domesticated the fox in only forty years, or about 35 generations (with pronounced effects seen in ten):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

It is now thought that many domesticated plants and animals were domesticated in only a relative few generations. Wheat may have been domesticated in as little as twenty years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution#Domestication_of_plants

All over the world, amazing works in stone exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonemasonry

Most of them were made before metals were smelted. The precision of the Incan walls in elite venues is indeed impressive, but the stonework did not appear in a vacuum, but is similar to less sophisticated stonework all over the area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_architecture

The best stuff was found in imperial sites such as Cuzco and Machu Picchu, but was only the best stuff, similar to how the most impressive architecture in the USA is found in either the imperial capital of Washington D.C. or in capitalistic headquarters such as New York City. Because the USA was founded as a secular state (the assertions of the Tea Party and other right wingers aside), the religious facilities in the USA have nowhere near the architectural grandeur that religious facilities in the Old World do.

Not only are the most impressive examples of Incan architecture in elite facilities, White Scientists have determined that the Incas were inspired by an older culture’s architectural feats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiahuanaco

But because none of them had writing, today’s anthropologists are left scratching their heads at what it all meant. What White Scientists are finding out is that the New World civilizations were like Old World civilizations. People are people, everywhere.

In my lifetime, there were all sorts of mystical assertions that the Mayans and Anasazi “ascended,” as an explanation for why their civilizations disappeared. White Scientists have been putting the pieces of the puzzle together for many years, and the picture that has emerged is that both civilizations were doomed by droughts that lasted for generations about a thousand years ago. The Mayans had “water mountains” as large reservoirs to capture the water, because in the Yucatan the limestone ground allows water to go right through it. The Mayan civilization was built on water conservation, but they were not able to withstand fifty-year droughts. An agricultural surplus allows humans to have people freed from food procurement duties and the time to develop new skills. The Mayans developed advanced astronomical knowledge, and the alignment of their monumental architecture once puzzled anthropologists, but are now known to be aligned with sophisticated astronomical knowledge. Like in many other places, the Mayan monumental architecture could be mind-bogglingly impressive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_the_Magician

But, it likely always primarily served the political goals of the elites:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_architecture

It is only in my lifetime that the Mayan writings have been deciphered, and they still can only decipher about 70% of it. Until then, the people of the Yucatan had many myths and legends around the vanished Mayan civilizations, and even White Science thought that the Mayans seemed to have been peaceful astronomers, and those New Agey ideas of ascension were dominant in their circles. As White Scientists eventually deciphered the Mayan writings, they told a familiar story of elites battling for dominance, who got the tribute, and so on. They were like people everywhere.

All early writings so far deciphered have been centered around the machinations of the elites and who got the tribute. The earliest writings were accounting for the tribute for the elite. They may never decipher the Incan quipu, but today it is acknowledged that Incan accountants invented them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quipu#Tawantinsuyu

So, if they ever figure them out, it is likely to be primarily accounting of elite tribute, as usual.

When I have looked into the mysteries of all the ancient stonework, some things they all have in common. The first is that only sedentary populations built them. The second is that there is plenty of stonework in those ancient civilizations, but the best was always for elite monuments, which usually was an act of elite self-aggrandizement. That dynamic is as old as history. The stones of the great pyramids in Egypt were not all laid out with breathtaking precision. The casing stones and the stones forming the inner chambers were indeed made with great precision, but that is where the best stonemasons did their work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza#Materials

Think of it like a wedding cake, with most of it made of flour and other ingredients, made in bulk and laid together without any artistry. The delicate artistry is used for the façade and the scene gracing the cake’s top. This is a standard scenario in architecture. The foundation needs to be made as close to perfect as possible, because it all sits atop it, the intermediate parts do not need to be super precise, but the parts built for show, or those needing precise craftsmanship, had the experts doing it. Today, the pyramids in Egypt are thought to have been built by professionals, not slaves, and the highest class of professional did the hard stuff like the casing and chambers.

There is still plenty of controversy over how they were built, but no White Scientist has had to invoke some kind of advanced-and-lost technology to explain their construction. The story the world over seems to be that the elites of all early civilizations had the need to create self-aggrandizing monuments, in order to justify their position at the top of the steeply hierarchical system (always rooted in energy scarcity :) ), and the leading edge of the day’s technology was used for those monuments. There is also evidence of engineering errors in the monuments, even the Great Pyramid, which were corrected, and the monuments were often reworked by subsequent elites, as we see in Mayan monuments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_architecture#Building_process

The people who built all of those stone monuments had pretty much the same biological brains that we have. The more I look into the mysteries of those ancient stone monuments, the less mysterious they seem, as far as having to invoke advanced-and-lost technology. These were almost all made by Stone Age peoples who had not yet learned to smelt metal. Even the peoples who had metals at their disposal still made stone architecture, such as the Romans. Stone lasts, while metal does not, especially back then. They had not yet developed stainless steel. :)

Hi AWP:

Yes, one of the primary points in my narrative is that when White Scientists study ecosystems, evolution, and animal behavior, the energy issue is paramount. It is the framework that they all work within. The energy issue forms the foundation of all ecosystems. It also forms the foundation of all economic systems, and will do so while we still need to eat. :) We so-called modern humans lose sight of that all the time, and it is one of the primary reasons why I am doing what I am. I rarely find anybody who has much of an understanding of the energy issue, especially among non-scientists. People flip a switch and the light comes on, or they put their foot on the gas pedal and accelerate their automobiles, but they have almost no idea what made their little gestures so powerful. Scientists get it, because they have a need to understand why things work.

While White Scientists often have a good understanding of the nuts and bolts of how things work, they are almost incorrigibly naïve regarding how the world of people works, as Fuller observed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive

which has partly to do with their indoctrination:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

I have been astounded by the naiveté of people like Carl Sagan. Brian O lost his naiveté the hard way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

as did I:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#believing

That just comes with the territory. In the FE milieu, naïveté can be fatal, which is why I always warn newbies who just want to rush out and make FE happen; they have literally no idea what they are getting into.

I have a busy day ahead of me. In the coming week, I plan to keep on with my little narrative. “Civilization” is coming soon. :)

Best,

Wade

wynderer
19th August 2012, 17:43
hi Limor -- got knocked off the forum when i tried to reply this before

thank you for sharing your story & your insights, especially this one, from your post:

'I struggled to keep silence when observing the human need to separate itself from nature and the sense of superiority that accompanied it.'

i think this is the heart of the Human participation in the rape of planet Earth -- it seems that Humans are almost ashamed of being Earth mammals -- amazing animals, w/that erect spine, the chakras waiting to be activated & opened up to higher dimensions, & those great opposable thumbs, on this planet created to be a paradise, experienced thru the senses as well as the mind

i also see an agenda going on to continue this dislike of being a Human animal -- the massmedia [when i can't escape it] seems to be portraying very degrading images of Humans, & the 'Transhumanist' movement wants to turn us all into bio-robots -- on the newagey circuit, it is popular to say that 'all Humans are starseeds' -- agreed, but so is every flower, & every beetle

wyn







Hi ,

Wade, Your 'madness' is much appreciated and it probably has a method which is partly visible and understood and the rest will be revealed as time goes by.


About apes and humans:

Around ten years ago, I had some spare time while looking for a job and had the great fortune to volunteer and do some work at the nearest Safari Park. much to my delight I was accepted to work with the monkeys and apes as their caregiver, it was five months I will not easily forget.

I love animals. I find it easy to connect with them and I treat them pretty much as equals but not as identical. I was surprised how much similarity was between the behaviour of apes, especially the Gorilla's and the chimpanzees, to that of humans. The first few days were like arriving into a new class, I had to prove myself to them. their inteligence was overwhelming, and they (the chimpanzees) were throwing me some tests over and over again, not to mention that they were actually throwing everything that their hands could grasp (you don't want to know...) they waited to see my reaction. I could not help and laughed heartily, but I explained to them what I am ready and what I am not ready to accept. The chimpanzees showed some manipulative behavior and pretenses worthy of a child of six years old. during feeding time, where I could not yet tell who was who, it happened that I was giving an extra sandwich to one of them just because he was hiding his already recieved sandwich in his hand behind his back and demanded more with the other hand while he made some hungry facial expressions, pointed to his belly and asking " give it to me, give it to me". However, compared to the Gorilla's and Urang utangs they lacked sophistication, it is enough to look at the other nobel giants Straight in the eyes, to see that 'there is someone at home'. the male rullers were impressive looking and one can not feel but respect when connecting with them.

After months of volunteering I felt a deep emotional connection with them, they are operating in a collective behaviour as well as having individual characteristics. There was no need to convince me back then that the origin of man derives from apes. I remember classes of pupils from religious schools where the teacher explains that man is superior to the monkey and there is no genetic link between the two. I struggled to keep silence when observing the human need to separate itself from nature and the sense of superiority that accompanied it. There is one area in which the apes seem to be more developed than us and that is their strength as a tribe. each of them has a clear status and a role they need to play, if they are attacked from the outside they act together. unfortunetly, in a very similiar manner to us (or rather us similiar to them) they operate in a hierarchical structure that includes wars, boycotts and coup attempts against the male ruler, sometimes by one of his offspring who wish to succeed him. Thereforel, from all this, it is very easy to conclude that human beings (all the different types of Homos) are direct descendants from the apes, adding to that the almost complete genetical identity. However, personally, after I got to know a different reality than I thought our world consists of, I do not believe the Darvinian theory is the real story. keeping an open mind that our heritage might be something totally different alltogether is a key... genetic manipulations are performed by humans as we speak, where does it come from?



Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " If people want to invoke ET influence here, either genetically or culturally, they can, but White Scientists don’t go there, understandably, and their theories may be the right ones, and outside intervention may not need to be invoked to explain those epochal events in the human journey. The interventionist theories have little or no support for them, but are on the order of myths and legends."

I wouldn't like to invoke ET influence, for a couple of reasons, first, like Wade said, there is no substantiated evidence to suce claims, other then reliance on indirect material, mostly channeled, and sometimes in accordance with people's testimonies including some senior officials, also from clues drawn from the bible and other old writings. second, I understand the need to stick as closely as possible to the accepted scientific mindset on this thread, so, I am not here to vouch for any of the theories (as if I can.. :p) my inner compass is telling me otherwise then those white science conclusions. Have we ever climbed down from the trees to the ground and did our brains developed into other uses? the later is possibly right. but who knows..


This is an interesting thread to follow. On the one hand there is the readiness to consider some 'esoteric' approaches, for example, the existance of Atlantis (no proof), past lives, expansion of consciousness, Micheal's material, Seth, guidance etc. on the other hand, there is an adherence to scientific speculation in presenting the human beings history. God forbid, I do not criticise, just making an observation. we are one leg here and one leg there... maybe it is a 'live demo' of another chapter in the chain of development of the human race. quite fascinating really!

Limor Wolf
19th August 2012, 18:00
Originally posted by Wade: " I have a close relative who is a famous primatologist, who stayed at my house just last week. The story that I have heard her tell about great ape intelligence goes like this. If a tool is left by a workman in a cage and a gorilla finds it, when he realizes that he can’t eat it, he throws it aside. A chimpanzee will return the tool only when he gets food in exchange. When an orang finds the tool, the first thing that he does is surreptitiously look to see if anybody misses it. "

Good story. Thanks Wade, it says it all, does'nt it? and your primatologist relative probably knows what she is talking about. Funny, after posting here today, I searched the net for any information about Mushon (http://img.mako.co.il/2008/11/23/news20_231108_kof_c.jpg), the male leader (and celebrity) Urangutang which was under my care in the Safari and I found this small news item:

" Mushon, the Urangutang is known by the Safari staff as "Mushon refurbishment", due to his tendency to fix and repair things, which doesn't always make the employees very joyous: "He has good hands. Every time he broke the electrical current around the compound where he stays, so in the Safari this is the only region that is not electrically fenced"


By the way, I am having difficulties entering Wade's ' a healed planet' site. none of the above links are working, I am trying for the last hour and a half. I hope that its only my computure, but maybe someone else is willing to check this?

Wade Frazier
19th August 2012, 18:21
Hi Limor:

My host is having technical difficulties at the moment. They are rare and usually do not last long. We will see how long this one lasts. I actually had a similar problem accessing Avalon early this morning. The Internet is not without its glitches. :)

Sorry,

Wade

Limor Wolf
19th August 2012, 19:28
Originally posted by Wynderer : "it seems that Humans are almost ashamed of being Earth mammals "

Animals can be nothing but themselvs, many humans can be inhumans (and do not always know themselvs). animals can not pretened ,humans do not know how not to pretend. most animals produce, human consume. It is already been said that man will find it very difficult to live up to animals standard.


-Thanks for the update, Wade. I will try again later.

About glitches: " The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn’t understand.."- Eric Schmidt

(well, there is a little bit of exegeration there, but not entirely so - : )

Wade Frazier
20th August 2012, 06:09
Hi:

I only have a few minutes to make a post, and it will likely be a day until I can make another one.

It is today thought that humans did not make it to East Asia until about 70K years ago. It took another 20K years for humans to make it to Australia (they needed to be ocean-going by boat to get there). A huge volcanic eruption in Indonesia is thought to have wreaked havoc and altered evolutionary trends:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

An ice age was in full swing at the time. Migrating to places like the New World was unlikely. The evidence today is unequivocal that the American Indians migrated to the New World from East Asia, probably around 15K-20K years ago. There are many indicators, including biology, such as their teeth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxillary_central_incisor#Variation

http://www.uic.edu/classes/osci/osci590/10_1Non-Metric.htm

Genetics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas#Genetics

and other evidence. The orthodox theories today have the map of human migration out of Africa looking like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spreading_homo_sapiens.svg

Just as the evidence is strong that humans caused the demise of the Australian megafauna, it is also very strong that humans did the same to the Americas when they migrated to it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#North_America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#South_America

It is not arguable at all that humans did it when they migrated to uninhabited islands in the past few thousand years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Later_extinctions

That wave of extinctions followed wherever the humans appeared, as those animals provided the easy meat. It is likely that that “blitzkrieg” wiped out all of those animals before they learned to fear and avoid humans (and on islands, there was no place to run and hide). We can see that lack of fear today in the few places where animals never had humans around them, such the denizens of Galapagos Islands and the penguins of Antarctica. They are all incorrigibly naïve about humans. Even the recent methods used for studying the penguins appear to be killing them.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/12/scientists-inadvertently-killing-penguins-researchers/

There are extinctions in recent history, such as how Europeans drove the Great Auk to extinction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Auk

or the Passenger Pigeon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon

which is a highly spectacular extinction. From flocks that turned day into night to extinction in little more than a century, in an industrializing USA; it is an awesome tally of destruction, even more impressive than the near-extinction of the American bison:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison#19th-century_hunts

with its near-extinction used to help drive American Indians to extinction. When there were no almost no Indians or bison left, then “conservation” efforts began. I have a personal connection to the genocide of the American Indian:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

But back to the Old World. Many Biblical events have been thought to be real, especially by Biblical literalists. The Jews were not the only people writing tales, and Egyptian, Sumerian and other writings exist, and they are primarily concerned with events that happened in the domestication phase of the human journey. The Old Testament was written from ancient oral histories, while the authorship of the New Testament is apocryphal.

Some of the most persistent accounts from the Old World mythology are tales of a flood, fires from the sky, and tales of Atlantis. In recent years, I have seen tales of a flood, sometimes combined with the sinking of Atlantis, in many places. One astronaut actually went looking for Noah’s Ark:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Irwin#Christianity

The creation of the Black Sea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory

and the rising oceans of the Persian Gulf and Atlantic periphery:

http://www.livescience.com/10340-lost-civilization-existed-beneath-persian-gulf.html

are theorized to have deluged Atlantis, and there are literally dozens of theories on where Atlantis was and how it perished:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-theories-about-the-lost-city-of-atlantis.php

Similarly, comets go back to the beginnings of history and before:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet#History_of_study

Many myths and legends likely have at least a grain of truth in them, but it is one of the most perilous areas of research, with many agendas impacting the situation. Velikovsky thought that the Bible was literally true, and even his followers saw a kind of fundamentalism in his perspective:

http://www.velikovsky.info/Fundamentalist#Hidden_fundamentalism.3F

I think that it is very difficult to look at ancient writings as literal truth. Myths and symbology abounded in all ancient civilizations, and taking them as being literally true is usually the path of folly, IMO. Genesis reads like a fairy tale, as do many Biblical tales. The Epic of Gilgamesh tells of fantastic travels beyond this plane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh

which far predates the Bible. When modern NDE accounts confirm many old accounts of otherworldly experiences, I pay attention. What seems to be the case is that our immediate after-death environment is like the one we experienced while living, so the diversity in after-death accounts, as far as their specifics, have common themes that I consider to likely be true:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#afterlife

But none of it I consider a guide for action. At best, such tales are only useful if they help expand our sense of self, allow us to think more about being in touch with our hearts and intuition, and encourage us to pray/meditate more. That is the gold in that stuff, IMO, not trying to shoe horn George Bush the Second’s activities into some dire prophecy (although I understand the sentiment), or building a bunker because its 2012 (which is increasingly looking like merely being the year between 2011 and 2013, and all those who keep predicting mass ascensions and other events are being looked at more and more like Heaven’s Gate people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group) )

All that prophecy stuff should be taken with a large grain of salt. What is important is what we do here and now, with what we have in front of us. FE and what can come with it is no myth to me. I know that it exists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

and I also know that very few people on Earth really do. Almost everybody who claims that they do, don’t. They are just trying to attract attention. Almost every week now, somebody claims to be some deeply-connected insider, with the usual claims of all the bad guys being arrested and the Space Brothers coming down to save us. Even if the thousandth time that we hear it, it is true, we should just ignore it and go about our business of making the world a better place. I will take the help, if it comes from the White Hats or the Space Brothers, but it is extreme foolishness to just sit around and wait for them to save us from ourselves. We need to do the work, and part of that is truly understanding how the world works, how energy has always powered life on Earth and all civilizations,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

and understanding effects that are far beyond what are obvious (such as how women’s status universally-increases in high-energy societies), and the obvious and subtle changes that are not only possible but highly feasible if FE makes it onto the public stage:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

If the Space Brothers want to help, fine. If the White Hats want to help, fine. But I am not asking for their permission, and am doing what I can do, and looking for others who want to sing along. :)

Choir practice will be beginning before too long. :)

I hope to make some good posts this coming week, but it is going to be a busy one.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
21st August 2012, 15:01
Hi:

Sorry, but I am a little strapped for time right now. I have been getting in my fair share of hiking, however. Attached are a couple of pics from the past two weekends.

I am currently reading a rather breezy book on humanity taking conscious control of evolution, but it is by one of Brian O’s colleagues, so I am plowing through it. In those two future Earths that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

they both genetically-engineered life forms, and I imagine that humans received some of that treatment even in the heavenly world. But intention is everything. Nobody should trust genetic engineering performed in profit-making enterprises. Capitalism is born of scarcity and its resultant greed. There are too many activities that are too delicate, perilous, and important to be enacted under the auspices of greed. Free energy and medicine are two more of them. Humanity is already learning those lessons the hard way, with people dying in unspeakable agony at the hands of Western “medicine” because they are profitable to keep alive so that the medical establishment can keep inflicting expensive medical procedures on them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system

I consider the medical system to be like the legal system: if you get on their turf, they win, and winning does not have much to do with your health or justice, and you will sometimes see it openly admitted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

sandy
21st August 2012, 20:04
Thanks for the pics Wade,

We do still have some Paradise/Heaven right here on Earth :)

P.S. Just saw in my forum travel a Breakthrough Energy Movement International Conference, Nov. 9,10,11 in the Netherlands and what thrilled me the most about this Conference is that it is dedicated to Dr. Brian O'Leary:dance:

Wade Frazier
22nd August 2012, 03:20
Hi Sandy:

A white woman named it Paradise after seeing the meadows in bloom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_Washington

The Indians called it “the land of peace.”

http://travelated.com/virinda-and-the-valley

John Muir said that it was the best he ever saw, and I won’t disagree.

Your mention of that conference dedicated to Brian’s memory was kind of timely. I have a few pals in the ranks of those speakers/advisors, but some were also people who Brian felt betrayed him or attacked him. I have been invited to be a part of stuff like that, but I need to do my own thing. I wish them the best, and all in all, a conference like that could be a good introduction to the issues, but none of the speakers that I know and know of have been through the FE meat grinder. That is where the learning curve steepens.

I was already planning to make a post today relating to a book that I just finished by another one of Brian’s former colleagues, from the New Age side of the house. What I have seen over and over is that scientifically illiterate people, even so-called visionaries, rarely have much understanding of the energy issue, and particularly the reality on the ground today. My upcoming essay will have diagrams in it, which I hope will help convey the reality. I was just looking at a chart by that visionary, and energy is not even a spoke on the wheel of the paradigm shift that author hopes to initiate, but some subset of science/technology, which is just another spoke on the wheel, where culture/media is a spoke and government/law is another spoke, as is “economy.” That betrays great ignorance of how the world works. All human efforts have always flowered from the economic reality, which has always been rooted in energy. The author mentioned energy a few times in passing, but not even a whiff of recognition that organized suppression, much less Godzilla, exists. Nobody is being offered a billion dollars to go away in New Age circles, or playing the money game, the “protest” game, or even the alternative medicine game. FE is the big one, and Godzilla knows it all too well. That very few others understand that issue is one of the greatest advantages that Godzilla has. When he sees “radicals” and “visionaries” who can’t bring themselves to even mention FE’s possibility and potential, much less the organized suppression, he may consider them his allies, and some may well be.

FE is the big one; everything else is a sideshow at best, and a rabbit hole to a dead end at worst.

I’ll be getting back to the human journey in the next posts.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
22nd August 2012, 15:43
Hi:

OK, back to the human journey. I want to back up a little bit and make something clearer than I might have made it before. Other than the chemosynthesis that powered the first ecosystems:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=519314&viewfull=1#post519314

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=516792&viewfull=1#post516792

and powers some marginal ecosystems today, such as those same vents and geysers, sunlight powers all ecosystems. When photon energy is captured by photosynthesis, it is like taking water and raising it to the top of a waterfall:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=534214&highlight=waterfall#post534214

In life forms, the water does not immediately fall to the bottom, but can be likened to dozens of smaller falls that eventually get the water to the bottom. With every small fall, energy is released and is no longer available to the life form. But every organism has structure, and that structure is made by welding together atoms with that captured energy. So, instead of using that energy to run a biological process, the energy is instead used to fuse atoms together to form a protein, a cell wall, an eyeball. Life invests its energy in building and maintaining its structure. When a forest is young, let’s say as it grows after a forest fire released all of its stored structural energy, most of the energy that is captured is used to build tree flesh, not to run biological reactions. As a forest matures, with the biggest trees dominating, most of the energy is used to run the biochemistry, not build tree flesh.

Capturing sunlight is called an endothermic reaction, as it absorbs energy. Burning wood is called an exothermic reaction, as it releases energy. Our warm-bloodedness is due to exothermic reactions that heat us up. As I stated before, how warm-bloodedness came to be is controversial:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

but what warm-bloodedness allows us to do is have enzymes (those energy-boosting molecules)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=521326&viewfull=1#post521326

operate in their optimal temperature range. A warm-blooded animal is turbo-charged compared to a cold-blooded one, and it takes a great deal of energy to maintain a warm-blooded animal today – dozens of times what a cold-blooded animal needs. Because the world has been growing colder for 40 million years or so:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=532053&viewfull=1#post532053

as carbon dioxide levels have been declining, warm-bloodedness is a great advantage. Reptiles did not have to be warm-blooded when Earth was warmer, so the warm-blooded animals of today are far more energy-taxing on the ecosystems than when animals were primarily cold-blooded. Scientists have begun to suspect that Earth’s biomass was far greater long ago, and biomass may have peaked about 500 million years ago (See Ward’s The Medea Hypothesis, p. 108).

After the greatest extinction event ever, one species took over the terrestrial ecosystems. It was the equivalent of a reptilian sheep:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lystrosaurus

When a species takes over or thrives after a catastrophe, it is called a “disaster species”:

http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/37/10/875.abstract

Humanity is the greatest disaster species of all time, and it created its own disasters, beginning with harnessing fire. Brush fires and forest fires are ecosystem catastrophes. While lightning has meant that fires have been a fact of life from the beginning of land-based ecosystems, humans were the first species to make and control fires. Ecosystems have adapted to the reign of humans, and some plants depend on fire, but when the human blitzkrieg hit Australia about 50K years ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=539260&highlight=seeds#post539260

all of the megafauna was quickly driven to extinction, and it is thought that human-created fires were the agency of that megafaunal catastrophe. The Australian aborigines were not the prolific hunters that eventually spread throughout Eurasia and then the Western Hemisphere. Because the Great Leap Forward happened during a glacial period, it is thought that humans could not migrate to the Western Hemisphere at that time. They only began migrating when the ice sheets receded enough to allow passage. There is little-to-no doubt that the New World’s natives came from East Asia.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=541370&highlight=teeth#post541370

They had the sophisticated toolkit of the late Paleolithic, with sewn clothes, sophisticated stone tools, and the social organization that made them the all-time super-predator on Earth. Nothing could withstand those clever apes. In only a few thousand years, all of the Western Hemisphere’s megafauna was rendered extinct. Virtually all of the largest animals that survived the arrival of humans in the New World migrated from Asia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Pleistocene_extinctions#North_America

with the curious exception of the bison. The hunter-gatherer lifestyle was greatly successful, too successful. By 10K years ago, the continental mass extinctions were complete. All the easy meat was gone, and humans became increasingly violent as territories shrank and the easy meat was gone.

For those who want to invoke an ET or inter-dimensional interventionist model, here is another logical place to make the case, because the domestication of plants and animals happened, independently, in numerous places on Earth: the Fertile Crescent, China, Southeast Asia, New Guinea, Mesoamerica, South America, and Africa. There is evidence that it began in the Levant nearly 20K years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution#Agriculture_in_the_Levantine_Corridor

and the others did not happen all at the same time, but each happened after the easy meat ran out. Necessity was the mother of invention, and virtually all candidates for domestication were domesticated. About the same time that plants were domesticated, animals were, too. Similar to plants, only some animals made for good domestication candidates. They were nearly invariably social animals that lived in herds and packs, where humans took over the dominant social position. Because of the blitzkrieg that exterminated almost all large animals, the New World’s peoples did not have many candidates for domestication, which eventually had great consequences.

While the Domestication Revolution was an outcome of the hunter-gatherer lifestyle being too successful, it was not an easy transition by any means. The skeletons of early farmers were several inches shorter than the hunter-gatherers that preceded them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution#Social_change

People become short like that due to caloric restriction. They did not get enough energy to grow to their biological optimum. The Domestication Revolution is the result of humanity’s first global energy crisis. Many changes attended the Domestication Revolution, not all of them salutary. When a person’s possessions amounted to what he/she could carry, materialism was not feasible. Personal possessions were not all that important in those hunter-gatherer days. There were no social hierarchies, or the social hierarchy that existed was exceedingly simple and modest when compared to what followed it. When everybody was mobile, conflicts were settled by violence or fleeing. The hunter-gatherer could just move on to avoid conflict. When a farmer was anchored to his crop in the ground, there was no place to flee to. The “sitting duck” farmer became the foundation of civilization.

A stationary energy supply led to many social changes. One was that the most clever and violent began to exploit those sitting ducks, and elites were born. Elites served no necessary social function; they took over simply because they could. Humans have a herd-animal heritage, going back to monkeys, and the social organization of the great apes provides insight into our social past.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=537104&highlight=gorilla#post537104

The early elites were all male, and the “big man” mode of elitism can still be seen in the islands off of Southeast Asia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_man_(anthropology)

Monkeys and apes groom each other:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_grooming

and primate grooming is seen as a social act, providing “social cohesion” in the society. Humans also groom each other, but it is thought today that the human equivalent of grooming in our primate cousins is gossip:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip#Evolutionary_View

It is a relatively new area of research, so we will see what findings come out over the years, but the argument that gossip allows for social cohesion in larger groups than grooming can afford is not easily dismissed.

Back in the 1990s, when I began the research that I did that became my site, I encountered a lot of radical feminist work, and it influenced me. A big goal of radical feminists was to find an era when women and men were equal. They kind of hung their hat on the social organization of the village, and I can see why. When Europeans began invading the New World, they mostly encountered the village form of social organization. It was only when they stumbled into the stratified civilizations of the Aztecs and Incas that the Spanish lust for gold and silver could be temporarily sated:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

The Mississippian culture, that Europeans probably never saw intact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippian_culture

probably because of climate change and overtaxed environments (and European disease and conquest wiped out the remnants), contained the only urban societies in North America. Most of what Europeans encountered were villagers who lived in agricultural communities, and women usually had high status in them, although anthropologists have never found a truly matriarchal society (except for bonobos :) ).

Over the years, as my anthropological studies deepened, I have come to realize that the idealization of village life is just that. It was a brief phase between the hunter-gatherer lifestyle and the urban one, and while women had relatively high status in village life, it was relative. Life was hard in villages, with the plantings and harvests being the center of existence, and one bad harvest wiped out a village. Villages existed because their political-economy was not subject to greater economic concentration by elites into urban empires. Wherever the opportunity presented itself, elites created mechanisms which gathered the agricultural surplus from the hinterland over wide areas, and civilization was born. It was pure economics, which relied in turn on the energy surplus provided by domesticating plants and animals.

Also, in every one of the early civilizations, the elite men got preferential breeding privileges, as the “royalty” all had harems. All early civilizations the world over had that in common. Also, early civilization was the beginning of organized religion, as the religions attributed divine status to the elites, to justify their position. Those exploited sedentary populations were then drafted into building monumental architecture that further aggrandized the elites. It happened independently wherever the economics was amenable to being exploited by the elites. As early anthropologists saw that the same dynamics developed independently in New World cultures as happened in Old World cultures, the case began to be made for human nature being responsible (see Wilson’s Consilience, pp. 163-164.). It is hazardous to attribute those developments to human “nature,” but human biology and the economic reality obviously was the lynchpin. In societies based on the labor of peasants and other non-elites, women became valuable commodities as they bred laborers. Consequently, the status of women universally declined with the advent of urban civilization. The agricultural surplus also freed people to develop new skills, and professions were born. Prostitution has been called the world’s oldest profession, but it only developed with the advent of civilization:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_prostitution

Women were not the only class that suffered with the advent of civilization, but slavery also appeared at the same time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

Professional soldiers, craftsmen, and priests also appeared. It was all built on the back of the peasants and slaves who produced the agricultural surplus, with the semi-captive women providing the laborers. Ideological indoctrination was definitely in full sway in those days, as the populace was conditioned to worship the elites and accept their lesser status, but only a standing military could enforce that social order. The greatest adversaries of the ruling classes have always been their subject populations. Megalomania knows no bounds, so the elites were always looking to expand their power, and in a world of scarcity, the society played along. If you wanted to eat, you played along. The Fertile Crescent has been the scene of rising and falling empires for several thousand years, as they battled each other for supremacy, and it was always an economic game at its root.

I have to run to work, but there are many dynamics to sketch with the advent of civilization. In Marxian terms, the mode of production and social organization changed radically with the advent of civilization. The environmental impacts were pronounced, as humans wrung ever more energy from the environment. Wiping out competing predators was part of it. Deforestation and desertification attended the advent of civilization, especially when humans learned to smelt metals. Chopping trees down is not easy with stone tools, and plowing the ground was virtually impossible without metal plows and draft animals to pull them. But in those early days of civilization, the energy surplus was tiny compared to what was coming:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

Every early civilization lived and died on the harvests, and with the exploitation of agricultural labor forming the foundation of the societies, all human civilizations bred to the capacity of the energy systems, which Malthus eventually observed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe

The collapse of civilizations is a constant over the human journey, as they ran out of energy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

The basic dynamic was running out of food, whether it was due to climate change, natural or human-induced, desertification of the land due to deforestation and agricultural practices, or something else like a crop or domestic animal disease. In the end, there was not enough energy to sustain the civilization, and it collapsed.

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade

Ixopoborn
22nd August 2012, 20:21
FE is the big one, and Godzilla knows it all too well. That very few others understand that issue is one of the greatest advantages that Godzilla has.

Wade

Well said - message received and completely understood. I had long felt FE to be the super disruptive big issue and your remarks are a resounding confirmation for me.

Wade Frazier
23rd August 2012, 04:04
Hi Ixopoborn:

Thanks for your understanding. That is one of the key parts of my message, which I learned at a great personal cost. I feel a great responsibility to get the message across to as many who can hear it, and you might be amazed at how few really can or are willing to try. Today I was flitting through various pieces of information, seeing what some people are up to. I read one of Heinberg’s latest musings:

http://richardheinberg.com/peak-denial

He is the quintessential Level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

Really good Level 3s will actually visit Level 5 for an instant, with a reaction that goes something like this:

“Free energy is impossible, and tales of its suppression comprise a wacky conspiracy theory, but if free energy was real, it would be the absolute worst thing for humanity, as we would quickly destroy the planet with it, so I am really happy that free energy is impossible and a crazy idea. Oh, and we have to get rid of six billion people in the near future because we are going to run out of energy. Any volunteers?”

And people like Heinberg have dominated the “progressives” on the energy issue for a decade, while Brian O was completely shut out. It is surreal.

Coming soon on my human journey story is where I step back for a minute and see if my narrative can square with the mystical stuff. I think that a lot of it can, and a lot of it seems diametrically opposed to it. It is not easy to look at our past dispassionately and have much confidence that we will turn the corner as a species, but maybe we will. I know this; we will not turn the corner by luck. There is a lot of work to do, but it is mostly work in our hearts and minds. Folding a mystical perspective into that stuff can be quite a chore, but I have found that it cannot really be much of a guide for action, other than remembering to act from the heart.

Just today, I was reading this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-08-22/awesome-mind-boggling-tale-sam-israel-and-shadow-markets

and it sure brought back the memories:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

The scam in that book is almost exactly what we were approached with, including, I believe, that gold in the Philippines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama****a's_gold

I have written plenty about 1986, when I met Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

The year began with me feeling trapped in LA, rescuing a hooker,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?searchid=5161050

and listening to that voice that led me to Dennis.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

The year ended with me living in Boston, and then my ride got really wild.

As I look back, 1996 might have been an even more preposterous year. It began with me reaching the end of my rope in my job:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm#_edn1

just as Dennis began doing his barnstorming tours, and I was shocked at the size of his Columbus show.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=422926&viewfull=1#post422926

I then flew to New Jersey one weekend to help design Dennis’s accounting system, as he was beginning to take off again. I never heard about the billion dollar offer that Dennis received:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

until I heard him talking about it at his Cleveland show that summer. I would have been a beneficiary of that bribe, but I understand why Dennis did not share the information with me. We have never discussed it.

I did not agree to work for Dennis again until after the Philadelphia show. We took Yull to meet with Al Gore at the White House right after the show, and we heard that Clinton hated Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

Soon after I came to his company, in December 1996 I read that letter from our phone company, where they contacted us after the two Justice Department gag orders expired, after they subpoenaed our phone records. It was around the same time that we were approached by that sovereign nation, which was complemented by those Christian radicals that hooked up with Dennis, who claimed to have the trillion dollar trust. I tried to verify some of the bizarre stuff around it, and I talked to several dealers and others and the trustee who said it was legit. Either there were more in on the sting operation than I thought, or a bunch of people were drinking the Kool-Aid of that scam. There is also a lot about that year that I cannot talk publicly about, but if you heard it all, it would be pretty unbelievable.

2006 was another significant year on the FE front, and it also marked the end of my midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

All I can say is that 2016 is coming soon, and I can hardly wait. :)

I really have to get more done at the office right now, so I will slow down a little on this human journey narrative.

Best,

Wade

sandy
23rd August 2012, 05:20
Hi Wade,

2016 Retirement :) ? Free Energy Released :) ? Masses wake up due to economic collapse or geologic catastrophe ??? Maybe all three :)

Limor Wolf
23rd August 2012, 05:55
The first two and a half should be fine, Sandy.

Wade Frazier
23rd August 2012, 14:55
Hi:

Well, Sandy and Limor, beats me what is ahead, but those 2.5 ones seem fine with me, if my retirement is not one of homelessness. If we don’t get FE, I need to work for at least another ten years, and I’ll be busy until my heart stops beating. Too much to do…

I don’t have the time this morning to do justice to the subject, but here is a brief snippet on key events in the development of Western civilization. The Fertile Crescent is considered the cradle of civilization. When the USA invaded Iraq, it purposely destroyed almost all of Iraq’s institutions, except for the oil ministry, which it zealously protected:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/16/1050172643895.html

Iraq has not suffered like this since the Mongol hordes. Sumer was in modern-day Iraq, and is where the earliest writings are found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer#Language_and_writing

The earliest writings the world over were accounting, counting up elite tribute. Accounting is one of the world’s oldest professions, and unfortunately has plenty in common with that alleged oldest of professions. :)

Symbology is where reality is depicted by an artifice. Art is symbology, writing is, money is. Since the beginnings of symbology, people have tended to mistake the symbol for reality. Symbols are not reality; they only hint at it. Literalism is mistaking the symbol for reality. When most people think of economics, they only think of the symbol: money. Since the beginnings of ideological indoctrination, one of the most effective sleights of hand by elites is getting people to believe that the symbols are reality, and then they manipulate the symbols, and hence people’s minds. All of those scarcity-based dominant ideologies work that way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Organized religion is one of the first instances of using symbology to manipulate people’s minds. As usual, all the manipulation had an economic goal, to amass and maintain power. Back when villages began to give way to states in the Fertile Crescent, the agricultural peoples in river valleys had feminine, Earth-based religions. On the margins of the river-valley civilizations, particularly in the steppe region, ungulates were domesticated, especially sheep, cattle, goats, and horses. They generally grazed on grass, where trees could not grow (water and elevation limit where trees can grow). Humans replaced the dominant animals in those herds and took control. Early animal husbandry was done for the meat, skin, and in the case of sheep, wool. The horse, however, became uniquely important, because humans could ride them. The cattle-herder on horseback is one of history’s stereotypical images. Cattle were domesticated more than ten thousand years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle#Domestication_and_husbandry

but the horse not until much later, around six thousand years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse#Domestication

About eight thousand years ago, human evolution enabled some of those cattle herders to digest lactose past infancy. Those humans were the first animals on Earth that developed that ability, and it became a huge economic advantage. Those pastoralists that could digest the milk of their animals greatly increased their energy production. Raising cattle for milk generates five times the energy per acre as raising them for meat. And when the horse was domesticated, a new culture evolved, based on milk and the mobility of the horse.

Those pastoralists developed a culture around a male, sky-god religion, their horse-borne warriors, and the herders (cattle, pigs, goats, and sheep) who also raised crops like wheat. They became warrior societies that rustled each other’s herds for thousands of years, but then they began to invade the river valleys around 5-6K years ago, and spread from the Balkans to India. Those invaders brought their language and religion with them, overthrowing the feminine religious symbols with male ones, and their languages, the Indo-European languages, are spoken by about half of humanity today (I wrote about some of this long ago (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine ), and the linking of milk-digestion and the advantages it conferred to the pastoralist warriors are in Cochran and Harpending’s The 10,000 Year Explosion).

Those herders with their milk-drinking ways invaded far and wide, and especially conquered Europe. In Northern Europe, the ability to digest milk reaches nearly 100% of the population. In East Asia, the New World and Australia, where they did not maintain herds, East Asians, American Indians, and Australian aborigines cannot digest lactose:

http://www.foodreactions.org/intolerance/lactose/prevalence.html

and those few who do likely have some “white” blood in them, as those European men conquered the world. The digestion of cattle milk also independently happened in Africa in the Upper Nile, and on the Arabian Peninsula, Arabs developed the ability to digest camel milk, which may have helped spread Islam.

As those Indo-Europeans invaded Europe, something else happened about six thousand years ago: the evolution of white skin. The white skin also went with light colored eyes and hair in Europe. It is thought to be related to the ability to synthesize vitamin D where there is less sunlight (another energy-related adaptation).

Those are big subjects that I just brought up, and are highly charged, as they touch on race, religion, and Europe’s conquest of the world. Scientists, however, are trying to engage these issues without all of that baggage and examine the energetic, genetic, aspects of it. The authors of The 10,000 Year Explosion finish their book by examining how Ashkenazi Jews (the ones that ended up in central Europe) became so smart. They have the highest IQs of any ethnic group, with a median of about 112. With the bell-shaped IQ distribution, it meant that there are ten times the geniuses in the Ashkenazi Jew population as in the “average” population. The theory is that they were restricted to the professions that they could be in, due to local discrimination, so they became bankers, accountants and business managers, which required complex, abstract thinking. Also, the Ashkenazi Jew culture discouraged intermarrying with the local population, so they kept their gene pool “pure.” The audacious recent theory is that about eight centuries of that genetic isolation and restriction of profession spurred an evolutionary change that made the Ashkenazi Jews the world’s smartest people, where they are highly over-represented in math and science, Nobel Prizes, etc., at about ten times the frequency of the general population.

The other Jewish diaspora populations did not get that intelligence boost.

Again, my experience is that true sentience begins in the heart, not the head, so all of that intelligence does not mean that those Ashkenazi Jews had some spiritual advantage. For every Albert Einstein was an Edward Teller. Those guys are not hanging out in the same part of the astral plane. :) Brian O and Carl Sagan also probably aren’t.

The above highly-charged subject matter has a lot of relevance to where I think we can go. We do have to get a lot smarter if we are going to turn the corner, but it begins in the heart. The average child in this reality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

probably has an IQ of over 200, on today’s scale, but love made it all possible, especially the love that manifested itself in the FE that powers their civilization.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
24th August 2012, 05:23
Hi:

You will start to see me refer back to the earlier posts in this thread more. The more the information and ideas interlink, the more comprehensive the perspective will be, as I try to form a web. That is the primary reason why I am doing this, and if the energy issue running through it all is not obvious by now, it will be before I am finished.

When discussing energy and civilization, you will hear terms such as carrying capacity and carbon footprint, which measure the human impact on Earth’s systems, which include ecosystems and physical systems. Take the example of those pastoralists before they evolved to digest lactose.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543124&viewfull=1#post543124

When they raised cattle for meat, the carrying capacity of an acre of land was X, as far as supporting the human species. When they evolved the ability to digest lactose, the same land had a human carrying capacity of 5X. The same amount of sunlight hit the pasture, and the same number of cows grazed it. But humans increased the yield by 500%. Cows paid that price. Their biological energy went to humans instead of having calves and other activities. In “return,” humans kept competing predators at bay. So, cow and predator energy was diverted to humans. The biological productivity of the land was the same, but humans consumed more of it.

As I mentioned earlier, in young forests, most energy is used for plant growth, as they try to outgrow each other to get the most energy (sunlight). Maturing forest ecosystems spend most of their energy running their biology. When humans razed a forest and kept it pasture, it kept the ecosystem in an early state of ecological succession, and most of the energy went into growing the grass that the cows ate. It diverted energy that would have gone into running a forest ecosystem into running a cow that provided milk or meat. The energy delivered by the sun is the same. Also, when the forest was razed, all of that stored energy in the tree structure (primarily cellulose and lignin) was commandeered for human use. Some of the structure was re-used to build dwellings and tools (no longer providing a photosynthetic platform for leaves and needles), but most of the energy was released in a fire, to keep humans warm (as they live outside their natural range) and pre-digest their food.

When humans learned to smelt metal, beginning with copper and the other elements used to make bronze, then the deforestation of Earth began in earnest. There was a positive feedback in that wood was burned to achieve the temperatures to melt the metal from the ore, and the resultant metal tools made it easier to obtain trees.

After the ore was mined for it, for an ancient copper ingot made on Crete, which weighed around 20Kg (50 pounds):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxhide_ingot

it took four acres of pine trees to be turned into charcoal to smelt it.

That dynamic became more pronounced when humans created furnaces that reached the temperatures needed to smelt iron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ferrous_metallurgy#Iron_smelting_and_the_Iron_Age

More wood was needed to achieve the higher energy output, and iron made it easier to fell trees.

Metallurgy devastated the forests, and most smithies were out in the woods so they had a nearby supply of fuel. Crete originally had forests of pine, cedar and oak. Nearly five thousand years ago, the Near East had already been so thoroughly deforested that Minoan civilization became coveted for its verdant forests. The resulting Bronze Age Minoan civilization:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization

deforested Crete. By 1500 B.C., Minoan civilization was strapped for wood, importing cedar from as far away as Syria, and grazing sheep, not forests, dominated. By the time of classic Greece, arid Crete was the land of cypress, not cedar. Next up was Cyprus, which also had verdant forests before the copper industry moved there. In only about two centuries, Cyprus was completely deforested by the copper industry, and 90% of the island’s settlements were abandoned by 1050 B.C. Accompanying the deforestation was awesome erosion, as the forests stabilized the soils. Then it was the Greek mainland’s turn. The Classic Greek wars with Sparta were basically a fight over the dwindling forests. Athens tried to invade Sicily to plunder their forests but failed, and Athens and the vicinity was a deforested wasteland in the wake of the war. Then it was Rome’s turn, and their depredations were prodigious. They buzzed through Italy’s and France’s forests before they invaded Britain, which was largely about establishing mining operations, and a century of iron mining denuded hundreds of square miles and the Roman British mining operations ceased. The forests of Cyprus recovered over several hundred years, but two hundred years of Roman mining operations completely deforested Cyprus again by 200 A.D. A thousand years later, Christians and Moslems were fighting over the recovered forests of Cyprus.

Deforestation also happened when humans burned them, but that dynamic largely became sustainable. The Great Plains of the USA were partly human-created, by thousands of years of controlled burning, to keep the forest from growing back so grazing animals could live there, and in turn be hunted by humans. In the Eastern Woodlands, the Indians burned the undergrowth to keep the woody growth at bay, to again foster grazing animals. Energy was diverted from growing woody undergrowth to feeding animals that humans could hunt, such as deer. It was always an energy game, although the peoples likely did not think of it that way.

Plants have different reproductive strategies. Some plants spread many seeds, and by the odds of large numbers, some would take root. Those that matured in a season, to die but make seeds, are called annuals. Those that grow for a more than two years are called perennials. Perennials need to survive the seasons, while annuals do not, and surviving the seasons requires various strategies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_plant#Life_cycle_and_structure

Making seeds requires a heavy energy investment. Humans can digest many kinds of seeds, and those that feed the mass of humanity today are mainly annuals (corn, wheat, rice). From a Darwinian perspective, those annuals that dominate the human food supply are highly successful plants, as they are all over the world and actively cultivated by people. But from the perspective of the ecosystems, all other life forms were losers, from the plants that were sacrificed to make way for a wheat field, to the animals that lost their homes and food supply, and the predators that ate them. Human dominance meant that they commandeered the sun’s energy at the expense of the native life forms. Driving the megafauna to extinction was just the beginning.

More on carrying capacity, carbon footprints and global warming (which actually began several thousand years ago) later, but time for bed.

Best,

Wade

Limor Wolf
24th August 2012, 08:24
Hi Wade,

I have something on my mind, I am sorry if it will sound like a tough question or unrelated, but I hope you might be able to answer it based on your comprehensive knowledge and your (Painstakingly acquired) worldview.

: would you say that everything would be functioning in a perfectly uniform symbiosis if human beings would not have appeared on this earth ?
is it just man that does not understand its role in nature, or would a system of multitude of organisms would at any one time disrupt the natural flow of everything (just like we do) ?

I am always greatful for your all inclusive posts, Wade, is has so much value and meaningful content. I find myself struggling with trying to grasp what is actually included under the definition of 'energy', are we talking only on the practical term, or does it also include this subtle force that runs the universe? energy seems to run great portions of this world, it cerainly looks as if any process, whether it is natural or not, have a significant impact and implications on our surroundings and on this planet, I am yet to learn in depth how everything is a 'give and take ' when it comes to energy, and how we can use this understanding to better this world and to strive and bring ourselves and this beautiful place to its highest potential.

This what goes in my mind this morning, there are days with more exclamation marks and days with more question marks., today is my Q day :)

I wonder, what would have happen if we knew everything... ?

(you see, I told you )


Hope you all have an enjoyable weekend,

~^&*~^&

Limor


P.s

Wade, you have an exactly 1,111 posts, please don't post anymore :rolleyes:

Wade Frazier
24th August 2012, 14:18
Hi Limor:

Sorry to wreck the numeric perfection of the number of posts I have made. :)

I encourage questions like that, and thanks for asking. Life on Earth has always been evolving. Complex life that has not evolved much recently is rare, but there is some to find:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=526024&viewfull=1#post526024

Peter Ward’s Medea Hypothesis:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=522316&viewfull=1#post522316

is that life wipes out life, and has been doing so for billions of years, so there has rarely been a uniform symbiosis, so to speak, if ever. I am coming soon to where I sit back and don the mystical lenses for a moment, and I consider it possible that possible futures like what Roads saw:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

is where we finally begin to reach our potential, and we can find out what truly sentient life is capable of. Maybe that is why we are here, to help this species reach that potential. The mystical stuff more than hints that the human potential is to turn Earth’s ecosystems into a paradise that has never existed before. That world that Roads glimpsed qualifies, IMO, and they did it with love. They reached a harmony with Earth that may have never existed before.

Your musings about the energy issue are apropos and part of the conundrum. Energy runs our existence in both obvious and subtle ways. You need food to live, and what the food primarily provides you is energy to run your body, and your brain more than anything else. You live in the industrialized world, so the energy provided by fossil fuels is what your life rides on, and indeed what the lives of everybody in the industrialized world rides on. Look around you. Every machine, virtually every material, was made and brought to you courtesy of the energy released by fossil fuels, which is the energy of sunlight that was captured millions of years ago.

But that is just the obvious stuff. What I think is more important to understand is the subtle stuff. When herders learned to milk cows and became able to digest the milk, none of them thought in terms of “energy” and how the carrying capacity of an acre was increased five-fold, but they came to realize that a cow could feed more people that way. All living things for all time have been primarily oriented around their energy supply, and it has never been different with humans, but as we became “sentient,” and societies became more complex, riding on that energy surplus, people tended to lose sight of that. The basics never change. All of the dominant ideologies in the world today have energy scarcity as their founding assumption:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

but few people are conscious (AKA sentient) enough to realize it. All of that FE denial and those unproductive reactions (Levels 1 to 11 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1 ) are essentially knee-jerk reactions based on scarcity, as they reject abundance. For levels 5 to 11, it may not seem that way, but those levels are all in denial, in one way or another, of the reality of the world that we live in. Much is due to inexperience, but most is due to being entrapped in scarcity-based ways of thinking and not understanding that you can’t get to abundance from a scarcity mindset. This is the crux of the conundrum, IMO. And when you write of the subtle energy of the cosmos, you are writing about the Creator’s energy, and my understanding is that that is love:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

That is why I have repeatedly stated that a loving approach to the FE issue is not only the “nice” one to try; it may be the only one that will work. I have voiced my suspicion for many years that the zero-point field is likely divine in nature, and only those civilizations with sufficient divine intention can successfully tap it. Love and FE are joined at the hip in ways that can be exceedingly subtle. Since Einstein, scientists have understood that the entire universe is nothing but energy. Energy is all that we are while in physical reality, so the energy issue had better be front and center, but I find few Westerners who really have any idea of how energy runs our bodies, how it runs all ecosystems, how it runs our societies, and how so much of our culture, belief systems and other things that supposedly make us human are all rooted in the assumption of energy scarcity, because that is all that humanity has ever known. FE means an entirely different reality, and that is what I am trying to get across, and the more people who can understand the ways in which the energy situation shapes our world today, and what the potential of abundant, environmentally-harmless energy is (which I know already exists on the planet (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground ), but we don’t get any while we are collectively asleep), the greater our chance of helping that abundant world manifest. As I have stated before, Godzilla’s greatest triumph is making FE and what can come with it unimaginable. I am trying to throw a monkey wrench in his plans. :) Can I do it in a way that does not risk my life and those whom I am trying to find to form that choir? I don’t know, and it may be a fool’s errand, but I am trying to find out.

I was going to write a little bit about plow agriculture this morning. It increases the short-term “carrying capacity” of the land, but deforestation and plow agriculture eventually turns the land into desert. There used to be a forest running from Morocco to Afghanistan, but human “civilization” wiped it out long ago, with much of that former forest being desert and semi-desert today. But your question was timely.

Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
25th August 2012, 03:04
Hi:

I won’t have much time in the next couple of weeks, but I want to get some of those early civilization posts done. Back before life colonized land, the continents were effectively deserts. Any water that landed as rain flowed off into the oceans in sheets. Rivers as we know them did not exist, except for what are called braided rivers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braided_river

Rivers as we know them did not form until plants colonized land and their roots stabilized what became riverbanks. Until life colonized land, there was nothing to retain the moisture of rain. It is the organic matter of ecosystems that provides the “sponge” that retains water. That water retained in ecosystems is also what sustains them between rains/snows. Most of the rain that falls in the Amazon today does not come from the ocean, but is recycled from the rain forest, as water evaporates from the land or transpiration from the plants, forms clouds, then rains. When a forest is razed, the ability of the ecosystem to retain water is largely lost. If the land where the forest was is then subjected to plow agriculture, the exposed soil is gradually lost to the oceans via erosion. About a quarter of the world’s topsoil has been lost since 1945. It took far longer to make that topsoil. The gradual transition from verdant forest to desert is well documented in the Old World, and scientists have adduced that evidence for prehistoric civilizations. When Europeans began sailing the high seas and conquering the world, that process of deforestation and desertification was often very dramatic, beginning in the islands of the Atlantic. Cape Verde is the “green” islands settled by Portuguese slavers. In about a generation, Christopher Columbus thought them misnamed, as there was not a green thing on them. During Columbus’s lifetime, the Canary Islands became much dryer.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#guanches

When the Spaniards conquered the Aztecs, what is today called the Valley of Mezquital was a fertile valley of forests and Indian settlements. In a century of deforestation and sheep grazing, it became a semi-desert, which it remains to this day:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#_edn83

http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/resourcesquality/wpccasestudy7.pdf

Grazing animals like sheep and goats are also what helped make deserts in the Old World, as the grazers’ hooves compacted the exposed soils and they ate any attempts for the forest ecosystems to recover. When the British invaded Australia, the same thing happened: deforestation, mass grazing, and desertification. Also the native humans also largely died off, via disease, exploitation, and violence. The greatest catastrophe in human history is when Europe conquered the world, although you will rarely find a white person who will describe it that way. When the English invaded New England, the same dynamics happened, but the more northern climes are more resistant to becoming deserts, so the lush New English biome did not quite become a desert as it was shorn of its forests (see Cronon’s Changes in the Land). The environmental devastation of North America is a recent phenomenon, so the plains and forests have not quite been eroded to bedrock, although it is most of the way there in parts of the Great Plains. The Dust Bowl was an effect of those enlightened times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl

and it drove my grandparents out of Kansas:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

I was in Kansas just last year, and the river near where my grandfather grew up was bone dry. The ancient aquifer under the homestead where my grandfather was raised:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer

is now bone dry. Irrigated farming is dead there, and the town were my grandfather was raised is fast becoming a ghost town. The aquifer in the southern plains will be dry in thirty years at this rate.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2012/0530/Southern-Great-Plains-could-run-out-of-groundwater-in-30-years-study-finds

But those are tiny problems when compared to other parts of the world.

There has been a great deal of romanticizing of Stone Age peoples, their diets, living the hunter-gatherer ideal, or those quiet villagers living in peace and plenty. There is no evidence of some Golden Age of the human past, and humans are not all that well adapted to their diets – evolution does not move that fast. There are plenty of myths and legends of Golden Ages, but no credible evidence that a scientist would take seriously.

I wrote about early civilization in the Old World, and how environmentally devastating it was. Not only was it environmentally devastating, the human situation almost beggars the imagination. One of the oldest texts is the Code of Hammurabi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

and its “eye-for-an-eye” justice was civilized for the times. Execution was the standard sentence meted out for all manner of crime in that code:

http://eawc.evansville.edu/anthology/hammurabi.htm

What might be the bloodiest book of all time is the revered holy book the Old Testament, which is filled with genocidal slaughters, with the Jewish god regularly cheering them on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_violence#Genocide

Rome’s great architectural feat was the Coliseum, where people were forced to murder each other for entertainment. Megafauna of Northern Africa were devastated by Rome, even driven to extinction, such as the Northern African elephant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_African_Elephant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venatio

so they could die in the arenas. There were even bears in Northern Africa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_bear

Not exactly tales to inspire, I know, but this is the West’s past, and those dynamics still echo today.

My point is that energy sustainability was not even a concept back then. From their earliest days, humans were windfall energy gain opportunists, and they plundered energy resources until they ran out. Many civilizations collapsed that way. Even the “water mountains” of the Mayans were sustained by energy-delivered water supplies (sunlight powers the hydrological cycle), with the civilization at the mercy of the weather. The weather was not merciful, and the Mayan civilization collapsed, as did the Anasazi, as did Angkor Wat:

http://www.livescience.com/17702-drought-collapse-ancient-city-angkor.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angkor#Natural_disaster

Until industrialization, all civilizations were at the mercy of the weather, always subject to starvation if the harvest was poor. There are no exceptions that I know of. Their energy situation was always precarious, and that slim margin meant that there was little freedom, by definition:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#_edn5

Contrary to popular opinion in my great nation, the USA did not invent freedom. In fact, it was the last nation of significance to abolish slavery:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#tyler

Slavery has always been an economic institution above all else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Economics

OK, I plan to take a break from this tough sledding and don the mystical lenses for a moment, in the next post.

Best,

Wade

Chris Gilbert
25th August 2012, 12:52
There is a fair amount of over-romanticization of stone age and hunter-gather cultures to be sure, I noticed this in a Native American anthropology class I took in my final semester.

One key difference that could be noted however is that inspite of the higher levels of violence and homicide, members of hunter-gather and horticultural societies did not have corporate wage slavery with long hours in the sense that we do. Their animist views of reality, though filled with a fair degree of myth and superstition, were also arguably closer to the holographic nature of the universe than the crass materialism and theism that are now the norm.

For those reasons, acute psychological suffering was probably less, an argument that has some weight given the fact it was generally Europeans who "went native" of their own will, while the reverse was almost never true minus coercion.

Ultimately though the society of the future will have to be something entirely different and we really can't "turn back the clock" anymore.

Wade Frazier
25th August 2012, 13:27
Hi Enishi:

Yes, just who was primitive, the Europeans or the Indians? I once asked a channeled American Indian what the point was with Europe’s conquest of the world, and he said, “The dilution of bad ideas.” :)

I spill quite a bit of ink on my site on the meeting of European culture with the New World ones:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#before

It was one of the first areas that I began researching twenty years ago. Yes, the European way of being had little allure for the American Indian. This is an area that I keep reading up on. I live in Seattle, and I see plenty of what it is like for American Indians today, and it is a very sad thing.

During the research for his 1491, Charles Mann asked a bunch of anthropologists working in the field of American Indian studies and the invasion by Europe which culture they would have wanted to live in, and all chose the Indian lifestyle. Yes, no American Indians went “European” of their own accord, but “going native” was an epidemic problem for the European invaders, and places like Jamestown made it a capital crime to run off and live with the Indians.

Yes, the USA can’t all get on boats and move back to Europe, and the hunter-gatherer lifestyle can only support a few million people on Earth, and there is no going back to it. It is the same with Bronze Age village life. The Fossil Fuel Age will be seen the same one day, if we survive it. As Albert Einstein said, if there is a World War Four, it will be fought with stones and spears. We either go forward or fall all the way back to the bottom. There is no in-between. That can kind of segue to that mystical post that I am planning to make. There is a great deal of speculation, but little evidence, that technically-advanced civilizations existed in the past, and they perished, and humans started over with stones and spears. While I can see the logic of it, and I have been told that I helped melt down Atlantis, there really is not much evidence, at all, of any civilization like that existing on this planet. It would have left artifacts, if it was in any way extensive. The evidence in books such as Forbidden Archeology is far from convincing. I may not get that post made this weekend, but we will see.

Best,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth
25th August 2012, 15:33
I am going to try one last time to make a point that I see as fundamentally important to this discussion.

First of all, to address the veneration of scientists and the denegration of the layman. This seems to be the theme on this thread - a point made to ensure we all know our place. Who is to listen and agree and who may develop ideas and topical trends.

Then there is the house-cleaning approach to any topic refuted with shakey evidence. As if only the thread-touted conclusions have merit. No civilizations of any sophistication before the Egyptians, no beings from other worlds, no punctuated historical periods of rapid evolution or geographical upheavals, no universal template for intelligent species to explain our own species rise to civilization, no ancient writings and records have any truth to them, etc., etc. Yet white-skin appearing in a mere 20,000 years is considered acceptable - yet no record of the reverse happening to prove it.

Tossing that all aside, since it is all just background work anyway, we arrive at the crux of the issue. Why this tremendous delay? Why one and a half years later have we not left the arena of rewriting history and the lauding of the scientific method? For one who admits to impatience, sure a lot of patience being observed. Now we are into a crisis from which we cannot back away and still no new direction to turn in, no great new technology to give us hope. Instead we are shown the irascible nature of our kind and convinced of the mushy-brained individuals we all are.

Like usual, I probably make this post just as things pick up around here - and for that I am sorry. I don't understand this thread - and yet I continue to hope for a game-changing post.

I want to erase, I don't like to rock the boat. But more, I want to make clear, although I understand no one really cares - that I have not been convinced and I have not given over my ability to think for myself - even if I am "only a layman".

There is only this thread that holds out any hope for us humans on this forum. The rest are all speculations and fear-mongering. Only the "here and now" thread offers immediate results and only this one offers us hope for the future. I will not give up hope, but I will not give up my ability to rationalize and think for myself either.

Sorry Wade, I felt I needed to sound off.
I'll tune out again.

Wade Frazier
25th August 2012, 17:51
Hi Ernie:

I am not a credentialed scientist myself, so I am not sure who you think is being denigrated. I spent a long time on this thread distinguishing between White Science, Fringe Science, and Black Science. Each has its upside and downside.

If I was not working killer hours in my day job, and fighting burnout and other challenges, I would be a lot further along, but what has really been hampering on this thread are all the inventor-itis posts, which has tested my patience, and I have not always done well with that, especially when I come home from long days at work to see posts like, “I know how to do FE (you made a post like that here once, as I recall).” “What do you think about this or that inventor?” “He has it!” and so on. Those are all naïve, early stage perspectives, and they have their place, but not here. Fortunately, that has died down, and Ilie has been moving those kinds of posts to the appropriate thread. I am trying to raise the bar, and I am shooting for quality, not quantity.

From my long years in this field, I noticed that there is not an aware and engaged public, and its scientific illiteracy is a big part of the problem. Scientifically illiterate truth seekers have been easy prey to all manner of huckster, charlatan, the incompetent and the deluded in what I will charitably call Fringe Science. People should at least understand what the orthodox position is before they go chasing after Fringe Science topics, and this is something that I learned myself long ago, as I sifted through Fringe Science topics. There is a mountain of chaff for every kernel of wheat in that milieu.

Almost every time that I look at a different Avalon thread, it is recycling disinformation on the moon landings, getting all hot and bothered over a SOHO lens flare being a stargate in the sun, and other tabloid topics. Obviously, few Avalonians are in my target audience, but Bill, Ilie, Paul and friends keep the trolls at bay, which I have never enjoyed before. I am set on by professional trolls if I get into public forums, and my work is challenging to almost all dominant ideologies (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant), so everybody’s ox gets gored and I am attacked by all sides.

I think that I have been very clear on what my goal and strategy is, and just when I really get to the meat of what I am trying to do, I get a post from you wondering what it is all about.

What I am trying to do is help people, especially non-scientists, think comprehensively, because when they do, they will understand the central importance of the energy issue, and they will not be distracted by the New Age flavor of the month, or the elite herd management, and so on. Almost nobody that I have ever encountered has achieved productive understandings of the issue. That is the problem that I am trying to address, and it may be a lost cause, but I had to try. For those who want to go out and “do something” about FE, like go and try to build an FE prototype and hawk it to the public or an institution, this is not the thread for them. Been there, done that, and I am trying to do something different, and I have made it clear in my site’s writings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#summary

in interviews:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#imagine

and I have done so many times on this thread. Ernie, I think that you need to do something else with your time other than read this thread. There is a lot of good to do in the world, and I wish you the best in doing it. What I am trying to do is certainly not for everybody.

Love,

Wade

wynderer
25th August 2012, 17:57
i thought this article might be relevant

Free Energy Technology Could Destroy the Natural World (But It Doesn't Have To)

Friday, April 24, 2009
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) As the editor of NaturalNews, I've long been a proponent of free energy technologies and research. I've written about the reality of cold fusion for more than ten years, braving the incessant whining of ignorant scientists who said it was all a hoax, year after year, right up until the U.S. Navy recently announced its own cold fusion breakthroughs.

But in the world of free energy, cold fusion is where things are just warming up. The really interesting stuff is more in the realm of zero point energy -- tapping the vast stores of pure energy woven into the fabric of reality, even absent any physical matter whatsoever.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that free energy research has been blocked, discredited and suppressed by an organized cabal of fossil fuel pushers, but that's a different story altogether. This story is about something more pressing: What happens if we succeed in commercializing free energy technology?


Can Mr. Fusion become a reality?
There are many good candidates for free energy technologies that could be commercialized and sold for a few thousand dollars per household. Theoretically, such a device would be installed in a home (or office) and simply channel electricity day after day, year after year, with no moving parts and without ever using up its energy source.

Note, carefully, that this does not by definition violate any laws of physics. These devices aren't creating energy from nothing; they're simply channel energy from one form to another, much like solar panels do.

The pop-culture rendition of this concept is the "Mr. Fusion" machine in the Back to the Future movie series: Feed it banana peels and you get enormous amounts of energy along the lines of Einstein's famous equation: E = MC2.

That's a lot of juice from banana peels.

Let's leapfrog past the question of whether a Mr. Fusion type of device can actually be commercialized and go right to the larger issues here: What happens if Mr. Fusion machines could be purchased for a few thousand bucks?

I say that unless something radical changes in the ethics and behavior of humankind, such an invention would result in the near-complete destruction of nature and the eventual collapse of human civilization.

Why? Read on, dear friends...


Cheap energy unleashes a population bubble
Think about how we got where we are right now: We live on an over-populated planet that's been over-developed, mined, exploited, polluted and devastated by the sudden presence of a ballooning human population. In the year 1750, the world population was around 800 million. By 2050, it's estimated to reach nearly nine billion people -- a growth rate of over 1000% in just three centuries (the blink of an eye in terms of planetary history). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population)

How was this population growth made possible? Cheap energy.

Yep: Cheap energy is what made the industrial revolution possible -- and with it came cheap food and an ensuing population bubble. The discovery and harnessing of fossil fuels resulted in the most astonishing population boom our planet has ever seen. Along with it, of course, came the organized destruction of nature. All those people have to live somewhere, after all. Their food has to be grown somewhere; their home construction materials have to be harvested from somewhere; and they have to poop somewhere, too. As the population bubble was fueled by cheap energy (fossil fuels), so did the destruction of nature and the paving over of our natural world.

Cheap energy gave us mechanized agriculture, low-cost ocean fishing and affordable ways to level mountains, dig canals and engage in serious terraforming activities (like the construction of the Hoover Dam or the Panama Canal).

And yet there is a limit to all this. It's a limit imposed by the practical costs of drilling and refining fossil fuels. There's also a limit to how much fossil fuel is contained in the Earth (peak oil is upon us). As a result of these real-world limits, there are mountains that cannot be profitably turned into condos. There is beach front property that cannot be profitably transformed into vacation resorts. Mother Nature benefits from a margin of safety simply because further destruction is beyond the economic reach of developers.

Free energy would eliminate those barriers. With essentially free energy powering a new generation of electric cars, trucks, planes and earth-moving equipment (with their Mr. Fusion devices on board), there is no longer any natural barrier to property development. Electric-powered personal aircraft would become practical and affordable, allowing the commercialization of previously remote sites. Even the paving of new roads and railways becomes remarkably cheap when energy costs nothing.

Free energy could unleash the most drastic population explosion and development boom ever seen on our planet. And the result, I fear, would be the near-complete destruction of our natural world.

This is the pessimistic side of the free energy story. But there's another side...


Look on the bright side
On the bright side of this equation, free energy would allow the global reclamation of deserts, turning them into oasis farmlands with lush natural life. How is this possible? Through free energy powered desalination of ocean water.

If energy is essentially free, processing ocean water into fresh water and pumping it into deserts for agriculture, reforestation or property development is dirt cheap. Suddenly, you could see the world's deserts being reforested with the help of free energy technology.

At the same time, all this new farmland would actually contribute to the population problem by creating new sources of cheap food. The food bubble, in other words, would grow even larger, and the population densities of the cities would increase substantially.

Then again, if energy is really free, we could shut down the world's coal-fired power plants, essentially ending the carbon emissions that now threaten the planet with global warming. This would directly reduce the carbon footprint associated with energy use, indirectly increasing the carrying capacity of the planet.

Stated another way, if energy is clean and (nearly) free, then the planet can probably handle a larger population.

Free energy could also replace all the nuclear power plants in the world, eliminating both nuclear waste and the potential for nuclear reactor disasters. It could even replace the electricity generated from hydroelectric dams, which were once thought to produce "clean" energy but in reality have proven to be ecological disasters.

So there is a potential bright side to free energy. But how do we know whether such technologies will be used to create rather than destroy?


What's lacking: Ethics
The human race has not yet achieved the level of consciousness and ethics that would seem to be prerequisites for the handling of such powerful technologies. Free energy is no toy -- it is a planet-changing technology that could be used for either tremendous good or endless evil. It all depends on the intentions and self-imposed limitations of those who use the technology.

This point has not been missed by free energy inventors. One inventor in a remote village says his device already powers the entire village, but he refuses to release it to the world for precisely the reasons I've mentioned here: The world isn't ready for such advanced technologies. Humans didn't do too well handling fossil fuels, after all. Handing them even bigger toys to play with might be disastrous...

Another potential concern is that free energy might not really be free. Perhaps a zero point energy device appears to produce energy from nothing, but maybe a million light years away some star is winking out of existence because the zero point device is somehow sapping its energy and tunneling it across the universe to power your personal helicopter.

Even if humans can invent free energy devices, it's no guarantee we understand the ramifications of using them. This is the story of fossil fuels, after all: Cheap energy colliding with poor planning. Oil seemed endless for a while, and the environment seemed fine for a while, too. But now that we've come to realize how the burning of fossil fuels is destroying our future, it's too late to undo the damage.

Furthermore, the availability of cheap energy in the form of fossil fuels has taught the citizens of advanced nations to be extremely wasteful. Even cheaper "free" energy would terminate any efforts to teach energy conservation, resulting in a world of wasteful energy consumers who think nothing of leaving the electric car running all night just so the heater works in the morning without any warm-up delay (as an example).

Making energy free means there is essentially no cost to wasting it. So why not build homes without insulation and use free energy to run all the air conditioners? Why not populate the oceans with cruise ships powered by large-scale free-energy devices? There's no limit to the waste when energy is essentially free.


Humans are not yet ready for free energy
I agree that free energy sounds like a panacea, especially at first glance. Replace the coal-fired power plants and ditch gasoline vehicles for quiet, clean electric vehicles! Sounds great, right? But once you look more closely at the root cause of the current human population bubble -- and the destruction of nature we've caused in the last century -- it becomes obvious that unless humanity suddenly gains a whole new set of ethics, the introduction of free energy technology could be disastrous for the future of human civilization.

The fact that energy actually costs something right now is, in effect, putting the brakes on many of the activities of human beings. So it acts like a natural limiter of development and population. Lifting that cost and making energy "free" would unleash a whole new era of population growth and destructive exploitation of nature.

I believe human beings may be ready for free energy someday, and without question certain individuals or communities may have the wisdom to use these technologies wisely right now, but in no way is the human population as a whole ready to be handed this technology. For the most part, humans are a race of narrow-minded, short-sighted infants who have proven themselves incapable of long-term planning or even respecting life on the planet. Before humans are given free energy, they need to demonstrate the responsible use of existing resources and technologies, and sadly, humans are far from that.

Virtually all major technological advances on planet Earth have been motivated by WAR. Nuclear physics? It was all about war. Space exploration? It was about war, too. Exploring the oceans? War. Microbiology advances? War. Robotics? War. Solar technology? The U.S. military is the largest customer of solar tech. Even the Internet was originally developed as an information grid designed to send military messages during a nuclear attack.

Human beings have proven themselves to be preoccupied with war, profit and self destruction. Given such traits, the very last thing humans need right now is breakthrough energy technology that produces endless energy at virtually zero cost.

Handing this over to human beings now would be like giving a child a set of big red buttons for launching nuclear missiles.

What could be a possible solution for all this? An energy device that only works in conjunction with high-vibration intention from open-hearted individuals. If a device could amplify positive human intention into cheap energy -- while not working at all for those with dark hearts -- it could change everything for the positive. Love, after all, is the highest vibratory energy in the universe. It's not beyond imagination that love might someday be tapped as a conduit for clean, renewable electromagnetic energy. Need to recharge your laptop computer? Just send it some love!


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/026116_energy_free_population.html#ixzz24a8RqMTL

Chris Gilbert
25th August 2012, 18:44
Alternative archaelogy is one topic that has often interested me as well. A site I used to go to frequently in relation to such topics was this one: http://davidpratt.info/. There's some interesting info therein, and at one point the author had me 90% convinced, but as time went on it became clear that he's guilty of the very thing he accuses mainstream scientists of, cherry picking and shoehorning the evidence all in favor of his own theosophical belief system.

My conclusion at this point is that if Atlantis did indeed exist, the two most likely proposed sites are Thera, and the vast region of the Sunda Plate, which was above water in the previous Ice Age. I agree however that there is no substantial evidence that such civilizations were technically advanced in the sense of possessing factories or electronics like we do. Rather, their strong points may have been in the area of esoteric knowledge, along with some advanced strongworking techniques that could have been dissiminated to ancient Egypt, thus explaining the amazing engineering work of the Sphynix and Great Pyramid.

Ultimately though, such matters are a sideshow, and it's good to not get too distracted by them. Debates over now dead civilizations may mean little when the turning point is reached of the environment dying and society collapsing into worsening poverty and feudalism...

Wade Frazier
25th August 2012, 21:41
Hi Wynderer:

Adams interviewed Brian O, and he published one of the few obits for Brian.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033197_Brian_OLeary_free_energy.html

I respect Adams’s work, but he is an FE newbie and it shows in that article.

Hi Enishi:

Yes, Pratt is one of the fringe ax-grinders for his creed. There is a lot of that out there on the fringes, and you usually have to go deep, like you did with him, to eventually see that he was not exactly playing it straight as a scientist out to amass data and see where the chips fell. White Scientists get enamored with their theories, too, but the fringe ax-grinders can take that fervor to a new level, and play fast and loose with the data.

You will see people advocating vertical tectonics and other theories, and it is usually to make some channeled information or belief system “right.” There is a lot of Christian “science” out there. Einstein and Brian O were that rare breed of open-minded scientist who entertained wild theories like Velikovsky’s (although Einstein never bought the Young Venus theory of V’s), and Brian eventually came to regret getting dragged into various scientific controversies by the ax-grinders, whom Brian saw not playing fairly, such as Hoagland stretching the data points in making the case for the Cydonian “city.”

I’ll buy that many ancient peoples probably explored consciousness in ways that you don’t see today. All of the Infinite Spirits manifested thousands of years ago, although a bunch are probably on their way. When I have dipped into the Egyptian monuments issue, I have usually come away seeing fringe folks making shaky cases. Pre-industrial peoples were good at working in stone, as it was the primary “permanent” material that they had to work with. I think that invoking some extraordinary, advanced technology is selling those people short. They did advanced stonework all over the world, independently, like they domesticated plants and animals. I think that there is less than meets the eye with a lot of that ancient technology speculation and, yes, we have much bigger fish to fry. The solutions to the big problems facing us are not going to be solved by decoding the Quipu or getting those last Mayan glyphs deciphered.

OK, that mystical post is coming soon.

Best,

Wade

wynderer
25th August 2012, 21:50
thanks for response, Wade -- a quote from your link:

'Originally trained as a conventional scientist, Brian O'Leary's investigation of the universe opened his eyes to many advanced theories that aren't yet recognized by conventional scientists (who remain far behind the curve on over-unity energy research). He eventually bucked the system, left the stifling world of academia and set out on his own to explore alternative science and free energy research.'
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033197_Brian_OLeary_free_energy.html#ixzz24b4MXq00

as a right-brainer, i often struggle to grasp your concepts, tho i recognize them as a bridge between 'matter' & 'Spirit' --

Wade Frazier
25th August 2012, 22:03
Hi Wynderer:

It is OK to struggle with it. I have plenty of years of my head hurting as I grappled with this stuff. As I have stated plenty, if not for my radicalizing days with Dennis, I doubt that I would have very much worth saying. It took that experience to blow my indoctrination to shreds, to be brutally awakened from my naïveté, and realize that I probably did not know anything about how the world really worked. I am not saying that I do today, but I know a lot about how it doesn’t work. :)

Like Brian, it took that mystical awakening to really begin to expand our horizons:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#remote

The rough ride came later.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
25th August 2012, 22:18
i thought this article might be relevant

Free Energy Technology Could Destroy the Natural World (But It Doesn't Have To)..

...Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/026116_energy_free_population.html#ixzz24a8RqMTL

I hope it's alright to post my thoughts about this here Wade. I wrote it as a way to help me think things through.

I came across this article on August 20th on another website where it was recently posted, and it has stayed with me.
http://www.wariscrime.com/2012/08/19/news/humans-are-not-yet-ready-for-free-energy/
Now I see that Wynderer has posted what appears to be the same 2009 article (by Mike Adams, editor of NaturalNews.) So I thought I might share my response.

Adams writes: "...With essentially free energy powering a new generation of electric cars, trucks, planes and earth-moving equipment (with their Mr. Fusion devices on board), there is no longer any natural barrier to property development. Electric-powered personal aircraft would become practical and affordable, allowing the commercialization of previously remote sites. Even the paving of new roads and railways becomes remarkably cheap when energy costs nothing. Free energy could unleash the most drastic population explosion and development boom ever seen on our planet. And the result, I fear, would be the near-complete destruction of our natural world..."

I understand Mike's fears (and have benefited from many more of his articles, for which I'm truly grateful.) So it's not that I dismiss his points, which are important ones. I understand many humans aren't yet ready for FE. It's just that reading it made me feel very sad. It reminded me of many of the people who would, as Mike points out, be more than ready to abuse FE. Perhaps I'm wrong, but at a first glance I put those people somewhere between the world's darkest power-mongers (who probably already have FE at their disposal for nefarious purposes) and the rest of us (who given a chance would mainly wish to use it to feed and house ourselves and our fellow earth-beings effectively.) Even though there is this greedy lot of 'inbetweeners,' I still believe they are in a minority compared to most people. I also believe that with the right preparation, the right education about the higher, cleaner quality of life and reduction of 'survival-stress' that can accompany FE, most people would feel relieved and more empowered, and it is a shared feeling of empowerment that could be key to standing up for both ourselves and the natural environment to prevent its further degradation. I don't mean to oversimplify the human condition; this aspect (of how most people might react) is a complex one that could be delved into in much greater detail, but I feel this may not be the time or the place. At least your upcoming essay and other related efforts take us one step further in the direction of giving people a chance to grow this conversation.

Mike's point about fearing increased planetary destruction is obviously a potent one. When I think of the world's current state, the imagery of current destructiveness that comes most immediately to mind is: vast amounts of garbage in landfill, the plundering of natural environments for fuel and farming, and the polluting of our air, land and water due to manufacturing, fuel emissions, and waste processing. In theory, I would have thought free energy technologies would provide a solution to these dilemmas in ways never before seen. I think this was even mentioned much earlier in this thread. Mike himself mentions the potential end to nuclear waste and carbon emissions. Still, I would have thought that with FE technologies the potential for waste reduction and reduced environmental destruction goes beyond even that. The ways we build, farm, manufacture and transport could be revolutionised in ways that are far less destructive or materially permanent in relation to the environment, compared to what we have now.

Adams makes the point that with cheaper energy will come bigger population issues. Someone commenting under his article claims that "Over-population is a myth, raising the standard of living causes fertility rates and population to stabilise." It's a shame, because It's difficult for the world's best and brightest, along with people like me, to be engaged in this debate in order to thoroughly address these things if most people aren't even aware FE exists. When I talk to people about FE some of the questions they raise are fairly easily answered, enabling us to move on to another aspect of the discussion, and yet they may have carried around that stumbling block in their mind for years prior, purely because the discussion was unavailable to them. I like to picture a parallel universe where there are entire universities given over to studying the historical, scientific and social implications around FE in order to lay the foundations for its safe introduction. Scientists, historians, architects and philosophers, all under one roof. What a world that would be. I don't mean to write excessively. But now and again I enjoy imagining these things.

I think the main reason Mike Adams' article stayed with me, is that it reaffirmed for me how I wish to see a more comprehensive discussion about FE than the ones I've been able to have (present company excepted.) If free-energy is not what is best, let's, as a collective, work out why. But if it is potentially the best solution let's start imagining the most effective and safest ways it could be implemented.

My understanding of your intention Wade, is your wish to grow the very heart-sentient approach to FE that Mike Adams fears is lacking in the world. And, crucially, you want to combine that heart-based approach with the necessary scientific understanding and historical context; envisioning that if enough people can get the comprehensive ball rolling then perhaps a significant move forward can be made. Truly I hope so. Because I don't want to believe that writing most of us off in a world of enforced scarcity (that crumbles beneath us) is our only option. Fool though I may be, I choose to be an optimist. As Adams himself says, "human beings may be ready for free energy someday." But that readiness won't come without some of us, somewhere, being prepared to explore the possible, positive implications.

I was thinking about what Ernie said. (Having read through the thread I am always curious to read your comments Ernie.)
I am often nourished, and my thoughts are often healthily shaken-up, by numerous fringe theories (on numerous subjects) that clearly and even fundamentally ruffle the feathers of established or proven mainstream outlooks. Still, I can't help but feel that in order to take the discussion of FE into the mainstream the discussion may need to be brought in a language, and with a historical/scientific context that people entrenched in the mainstream can relate to. It may need to be brought in a way that scientists and historians won't throw out immediately due to 'shaky' or contentious theories or evidence. When I am trying to discuss the potential pitfalls and advantages of FE with most people, I really try and focus on our shared understanding of why life is as hard as it is and whether there are other options to cure the planet of the ills we see evidenced in the mainstream. Poverty, war, man's history of competition over resources and the power of love and decency to overcome these things, all fall within the mainstream, and are therefore a language that most people can relate to when discussing the potential implications of a technological breakthrough. My research into ancient ETs however is my own business, and if mentioned to someone of a particular nature may in fact send them running a mile, ending the FE discussion before it's even begun. So I sympathise with Ernie's frustration about what may have been deliberately suppressed and kept out of the mainstream, but I also wish to see the FE discussion someday make its way into the mainstream in a way that gives it staying power.

If anyone knows where there is another comprehensive discussion (of the issues raised in Mike Adam's article) taking place on the web, feel free to PM me and let me know. I don't mean to take up room on this wonderful thread. All the issues I've raised simply reaffirm for me both the necessity for a thorough discussion, and my wish for it. Perhaps I just need more of that most useful virtue. Patience.

CdnSirian
25th August 2012, 22:23
Re Ernie's post, I'd like to say some things, but not on this thread.

OK, just one thing. :) Ernie, Wade does offer a solution, the heart-centered envisionment of a new paradigm. Abundance vs scarcity.

He's not the only person to arrive at the conclusion that a new paradigm is needed, but he is the only person I've read who addresses the topic in relation to FE. And since we all eat on this planet, it is indeed an energy centric culture.

I have to do something else right now, but perhaps I'll start thinking about starting a thread about optimism, or visioning what we want. The visioning of a positive reality has been mentioned many times on this forum - and shot down as well, many times. But it's mention is scattered among many threads.

Perhaps all mentions of optimism can be linked to on one thread. I know, :loco: what kind of homework am I thinking of?

Wade I agree that the forum here is burdened with tons of the standard and acceptable disinfo. I read some of it, the best conspiratainment available.

Regards all. :cantina:

modwiz
25th August 2012, 22:50
My very simple reply to the Adams article is it bases its suppositions on the behaviors that have developed in the world of energy scarcity and the controlled world view that gets promoted by all media. I do not believe we are largely sociopathic, but just the opposite. One of the biggest challenges of Wade's work, IMO, is getting the imagination to a very new place and new world. True abundance is a paradigm shift and consciousness/behavior will be part and parcel of that shift.

Thinking differently, in new ways, is the password for entering the world that can then be called forth. Adams is stuck in a view that he projects into the FE future world. His fears are the ones he puts into his own vision.

FE and loosening the grip of controllers will allow for using the old media in new ways. Just as they have been tools of negative programming, they can be used positively. The same passive receptivity would allow for a positive planetary consciousness shift that has never happened before. At least that I am aware of.

The FE future is not one to fear. The Adams article made me wonder if he has been compromised.

sandy
25th August 2012, 23:05
i thought this article might be relevant

Free Energy Technology Could Destroy the Natural World (But It Doesn't Have To)

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/026116_energy_free_population.html#ixzz24a8RqMTL


Dear wynderer

Here is what I posted on another site re this article :)

Ran across this earlier today in my travels and it has many valid points for sure. But the bottom line is total disaster in the long run at the rate we as a civilization are going>>>>>>>>>>>>so what is the difference in the end.

Free Energy is the only answer to all the worlds problems and I want to believe that if the average human with a heart and not psychopathic was given the chance at a life free from slavery that they would stand up to the plate and become sentient and cooperative versus competitive.

One's view of what a future of FE may be, come's from one's own perceptions and projections of what today looks like.

When people are relieved of some of life stress's such as stark survival needs one becomes kinder, gentler, more compassionate and more giving. This is seen in our own lives and reality of today and in those who we know who have been relieved of some stress in their lives.

This has been my experience, perception and thus projection to date.

Free Energy is a process just like daily life and the challenges would be great initially. In time and I would say in less than 20 years, one would see a world that was much more full of abundance and equality for all which would result in greater compassion and love for one's fellow human being, Mother Earth and all her creatures and fauna. It will be the beginning of the Age of Aquarius.

P.S. For the life of me I can't figure out how people cannot see that the path we are on is doomed and if we don't totally and comprehensively change this paradigm completely, humanity's demise is the final outcome. Where is plain old common sense these days???

It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to figure this out and there in may lie the problem>>>>>>>>the answer is just to simple to comprehend, release and implement FREE ENERGY!!

Wade Frazier
25th August 2012, 23:52
Hi all:

Big subjects that you are bringing up, and I don’t have the time at present to address them in the depth they deserve, but briefly, AWP, that conversation that you are looking for does not yet exist.

I agree with Modwiz that Adams is dragging along his paradigm with him. I am not saying that he is not perceptive, and he definitely sees some facets of the conundrum, and is even being somewhat comprehensive in his perspective, and his heart is in the right place. We need a lot more like him. But FE is obviously a new idea to him, and he has a ways to go on the thinking-it-out front, a front that I have really barely breached at Avalon yet, because I can’t find hardly anybody who can get to the higher levels of the conversation, which is why I am doing what I am doing. Nothing that I have done on this thread is really much beyond the elementary levels. I need people to go deep with me. Inventor-itis, Young Warrior delusions, thinking that patents and a capitalist approach has a prayer, “protest,” and the rest of levels 5 to 11: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5 ) - I am trying to help people get past that stuff, because they are all dead ends. Once I finish this human journey narrative, I plan to make posts that flesh out all those levels. The ones to Level 11 are not theoretical, nor are Levels 13 to 15. I am all-too-familiar with them.

The conversation that I am hoping to get going will never be a Prime Time conversation, and certainly not for establishment members, at least until FE appears on the scene. That is part of the conundrum. White scientists, Joe Average, politicians, etc., are not going to begin to understand until FE devices are delivered to their homes. The conversation that I envision will not be for the masses or the establishment, but they will be able to see it. Some may get it, but the vast majority will have no idea of what the conversation is about. It will all seem insane or incomprehensible to them. Godzilla, however, will be keenly interested, and there is a risk that he will try to sabotage it, especially if it looks like it will be successful. Avalon is no threat, not now. But the effort will be anything but Godzilla-centric. I treat him as I would a thunderstorm. I can’t fight him; I can’t negotiate with him; I can only try to avoid the high ground when the storm comes through. No denial; no obsession.

I am looking to eventually help 0.0001% of the global population “get it,” and they will then help 0.001% of the global population “get it.” Right now, I am just trying to help about 0.000001% “get it.” To a surprising degree, Ilie gets it. If I can help that many people “get it,” FE would be unstoppable. I am not asking for much, not really. Every FE newbie wants to mass market the idea, and Dennis was the master of it. That dog won’t hunt, which is partly why I took a different path. Watching what Brian tried, and carrying his spears, further reinforced to me that this is not something for the masses, not now. Machiavelli was right:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

and I bow before his wisdom. It was not until after sifting through the ashes of our efforts that I encountered that quote, and it hit me right between the eyes, and I have seen nothing in the twenty-two years since then to change my opinion. FE is going to be brought forward, if it is brought forward at all, by a tiny fraction of humanity, as all great breakthroughs have been, and this would be history’s biggest breakthrough by far. It would dwarf everything else that has ever happened, and anybody who begins thinking in the slightest about FE starts to see glimmers, but they almost invariably bring their scarcity-based baggage with them, and that is where they lose it. We can’t get there by dragging along our baggage. So, trying to make it tempting or palatable to scientists or the sleeping masses is a pure loser that I no longer have any interest in. I am trying to do something different. That conversation will certainly not have anonymous members in it, Avalon-style, and it will be a conversation between real people, scattered across the planet. Once that nucleus is formed, it will attract those who need a little more help to “get it.”

Hi CdnSirian:

This thread is the best that I ever saw on that optimism that you refer to:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy

and this one is not too bad, either:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth

At Avalon, you may not be able to get one more on point than those. There are not too many stray notes on those threads.

Gotta get back to chores.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
26th August 2012, 02:22
...The conversation that I am hoping to get going will never be a Prime Time conversation, and certainly not for establishment members, at least until FE appears on the scene. That is part of the conundrum. White scientists, Joe Average, politicians, etc., are not going to begin to understand until FE devices are delivered to their homes. The conversation that I envision will not be for the masses or the establishment, but they will be able to see it...

I understand Wade, and thank you, truly, for your response.

When I spoke of what may be more palatable to, or easily understood by, a more 'mainstream' reader, I was thinking (optimistically) of the future in the long term; thinking, as a starting point, of those you say will be able to view the conversation you are planning. Even though I'm not qualified to participate I feel I'm going to learn a great deal from it.
I also had in mind the numerous people with whom I have discussed free-energy and the scarcity versus abundance paradigms. Most of them have no personal frame of reference for more mystical or fringe subject matter, or at least they prefer not to make it known that they do. They appear to have a more 'mainstream' perspective. Reading your work has already given me more tools with which to address the subject with people who claimed to have no prior knowledge of free-energy or its implications, and I'm very grateful for that. So once again, thank you.

I just read that astronaut Neil Armstrong has passed away, may he rest in peace. He is so famously associated with the words: ""One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." It is with the deepest respect that I say I often think of those words when contemplating free-energy, and the extraordinary far-reaching potential that it has.

Wade Frazier
26th August 2012, 04:02
Hi AWP:

Briefly, the people who are going to bring FE forward, at least the people who I think have a prayer of bringing it forward in today’s environment, are going to have a mystical aspect to their awareness. That is part of having a comprehensive perspective. Everybody whom I respect in the FE field has a mystical awareness. Some came to the milieu as materialists, but either they broadened their perspectives or they didn’t last long. It is going to take whole-brain thinkers to get to the finish line, especially in this environment. They will also be heart-centered. They will have left behind their scarcity-based baggage, or they know it is baggage, and they will be actively working on shedding it. How many people are there like that on the planet? Not many. I have not met many in my lifetime, or heard of many. That is partly why I say that I am looking for needles in haystacks. The main reason why what I am thinking might not work is that not enough of those people can be found. If so, then humanity is likely not ready for FE, and that could spell our doom.

And again, this is not some requirement list that I dreamed up, but it is what I saw was needed to navigate the minefield, and it is a surreal minefield to navigate. For the average people who are in thrall to our conditioning systems, they won’t be able to break free until they can actually see something different, and experience something different. Only then are they going to begin to awaken. The “good news” is that if FE makes it into the open, a lot is coming with it, such as the ET presence, anti-gravity, and a bunch of mind-boggling technologies. This is a key part of the conundrum and why the lid is so tight on all of it. The Big Boys know how quickly it can all unravel, and they have all sorts of contingency plans, and one of them is allowing an “outsider” to bring this stuff forward, so the masses don’t start asking obvious questions like, “Just how long have they had this under wraps?” That is why my friend got the show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

from the so-called White Hats. He was tagged as a contender to be that White Knight on a steed to be the front man. Greer was treated similarly back in the 1990s. This is all a long time ago, and I don’t keep up on what the current thinking is, other than hearing that most of the Global Controllers favor FE coming out. They don’t want to try to live on Mars if we crash the planet.

But even if they have the “White Knight” plan, they are not going to be able to keep the other stuff under wraps for long, and so much is going to come out that Joe Average is going to have the top of his head blown off. A lot of stuff like Star Trek has apparently been intended to get people used to the idea of ETs, and if that is the case, it has worked. The polls show that most people figure that we are not alone in the universe and we have likely been visited, so that revelation may not be so big. But it will quickly become evident that there are deep spiritual dimensions to the situation, and that is going to be the big challenge for people, IMO, especially the materialists, and that includes nearly all scientists. As the Brookings Institute warned long ago, the group to likely be most threatened by the ET disclosure will be scientists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings

and that is leaving aside the spiritual aspect. Most people are going to have their belief systems evaporate quickly if FE comes out. That is also a big reason why I am trying to form this choir. If a nugget of true sentience is formed, that contains all of that in its awareness and integrates it, it will be able to be a big anchor for the changes that will attend the advent of FE.

To say that that is big stuff is my understatement of the day. :)

What I am trying to do is get the ball rolling so that such a group has a chance of forming. Anybody else is also free to try what they can, but this is something that I saw was needed and missing. FE will be its primary focus, but the other stuff will be on the table, too. And Joe Average is not going to get it until he gets to see it and touch it. I don’t like calling it faith, but the parable of Doubting Thomas and the other apostles is an appropriate analogy, I think.

Time for bed, and the mystical post is coming, I promise.

Best,

Wade

P.S. Amen, Sandy, amen. :)

Wade Frazier
26th August 2012, 14:17
Hi:

OK, up until now in this life and human journey narrative, it has pretty much been the orthodox perspective. There are obviously other perspectives, both from the Fringe Science end of things and the mystical side of the house. Sometimes it reinforces the orthodox position, but it often does not. Here are mystical statements that are either mind-boggling, or seem to contradict the orthodox perspective.

1. Michael (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael ) has stated that the universe has expanded and collapsed more times than there are atoms in the universe. That might be the most mind-boggling mystical statement that I have yet encountered, but it actually does not contradict White Science theory, but it is something that White Science surely cannot verify.

2. Michael has also said that there are a million ensouled species in our galaxy. That statement was made long before extra-solar planets began to be discovered. Before then, one theory was that planets might be rare, and Earth-like planets even rarer. Today, it is looking like Earth-like planets are fairly common in the galaxy, and likely the universe.

3. Kryon says that the universe is a lot smaller than it looks. Beats me, but orthodox theory may have a problem with that.

4. Seth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth ) said that Earth is trillions of years old. If so, I don’t know how to square that with orthodox theory.

5. One common mystical/channeled theme is that Earth and the moon were brought to this solar system, maybe independently. Like Seth’s trillions of years comment, for that to be true, radioactive dating is invalid, and even radioactivity is not understood. I have a hard time buying that, but what do I know. More on that in future posts.

6. Seth has said that the universe is not expanding because of a Big Bang. There are scientists such as Halton Arp who challenge the expanding universe theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp ). Of course, Seth and Michael seem to conflict here.

7. The origin of life and speciation are poorly understood in orthodox theory. Even if they created some chemical reactions that became living, what would it mean? That conscious arose from matter? Or, the matter got to a place where consciousness found a home? The mystic takes door number two.

8. Brian O, I, Shakti Gawain, and millions of other people had it dramatically demonstrated that everybody can perform “psychically,” when we had what is now called a remote viewing after less than forty hours of meditation training: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown . The doors that opened with that experience never closed, and we all shake our heads at “skeptics” like Randi (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#randi ). Not only are almost all the “skeptics” that I have encountered been deeply dishonest (I have been slimed by one of the more famous ones, as have many in the FE field http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest ), but to hew to their materialist convictions when a little training can open their eyes I consider bizarre. One possible explanation is that, in the Michael parlance, they are Young and Baby souls, and have less access to those abilities than the older souls that comprise the mystical and fringe communities.

9. Seth said that viruses mutate according to the beliefs of their host organisms ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#seth ). That is “way out there” when compared to orthodox teachings, but the microscopes of Rife and Naessens have confirmed pleomorphism and how important is to subcellular biology (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife ; http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens ). To this day, “skeptics” and debunkers call Rife and Naessens frauds, but in one of the most mind-boggling cases of stupidity and/or dishonesty that I have ever seen from that crowd, they all avoid dealing with the “impossible” resolutions of their microscopes. Micrographs of Rife’s scope exists today (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=517775&viewfull=1#post517775 ), and anybody can go to Naessens’s lab today and see those “impossible” resolutions for themselves. It is the findings of those microscopes that are so epochal, because they have seen life processes at resolutions that orthodoxy can’t, so they can make discoveries that orthodoxy can’t. As I have stated plenty, it is when Fringe Science can impact the rackets that it gets tough, and the energy racket and the medical racket are the two greatest rackets on Earth. Those are the areas where Fringe Science should be focusing its efforts, if it is really trying to right the ship. But for the pioneers in those fields, it is a lonely slog, with few supporters and the racketeers targeting them, as well as betrayals by their few “allies.”

10. The ET/UFO situation is highly charged. Greer’s Disclosure Project is the most impressive effort that I know of to break the suppression. When the key players all came down with strange forms of cancer right after the Congressional hearings in 1997 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak ), observers like me were not surprised, I am sorry to say. I went to see some UFOs myself, and did not come away disappointed (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm ).

11. The ET/UFO situation is joined at the hip with FE, anti-gravity and other technologies in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard, partly because the stuff that my friend was shown (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground ) is likely mostly from reverse-engineering captured ET craft. Somewhat ironically, that friend who received the show does not even believe in ETs, but what he described to me is exactly what Greer’s witnesses have described.

12. One of the best indicators of the racketeering around those issues is to look at how Wikipedia deals with them. Greer has a Wikipedia article that does not even mention the 1997 Congressional hearings, much less the cancer that all the key players got around the same time, which only Greer survived. The article on Naessens does not even mention his microscope, and the Rife article says that his microscope never really worked. The topic of FE suppression is treated similarly. Several years ago, I found out that Wikipedia is an abysmal source for anything that challenges cherished fantasies about the White Man (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm ), but how the professional trolls and disinformation experts have muddied the waters over the ET/UFO, Rife, Naessens, and FE issues is nothing short of evil. You get to see the rackets in all their glory by a little perusal of those Wikipedia pages.

13. On Fringe Science, there is an entire cottage industry of Fringe Science that tries to make the Bible literally true, presenting evidence and analysis that Earth is less than six thousand years old. There is a lot of Fringe Science that makes the case the evolution is a fraud, again making Genesis right. I was exposed to that kind of “science” in the 1990s. I was not impressed, but there is a great deal of that out there.

14. There is also a great deal of Fringe Science that makes the case for vertical tectonics and other fringe theories, as the proponents try to make the case that Atlantis rises and falls, and that certain channeled information is right. I have a real problem with that kind of science. I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy for nearly twenty years. Velikovsky was another Biblical literalist, but he made the case that the miracles in the Bible, like parting the Red Sea and the manna from heaven, were not due to God’s intervention, but by near misses with Earth by a young Venus that was ejected from Jupiter. From what I have seen as I have delved into these areas is that Velikovsky’s theories are very shaky. No serious astronomer makes the case that Venus is only a few thousand years old. Venus has the most perfectly circular orbit of all the planets, and the planetary billiards scenario of Velikovsky’s would have left some traces in the orbits of various solar bodies, but nobody can find them. Velikovsky also made the case that those planetary near-misses created global catastrophes that did things like make the mammoths extinct. The mammoth extinction is kind of like the holy grail of recent mass extinctions, and I have looked long and hard at that one. I consider the mammoth extinction just one of many that attended the bloody migrations of super-predator humans as they conquered all of Earth’s ecosystems ( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=539852&viewfull=1#post539852) . It seems that there is a lot of human ego invested in denying that humans were the cause of all of those mass extinctions. Scientific findings keep making the “fire from the sky” or melting glacier theories untenable, as far as explaining all of those mass extinctions. Mammoths were certainly buried alive as glacial dams broke as the ice sheets retreated for this most recent glacial interval. But intervals have been happening like clockwork for millions of years now, and they survived dozens of those episodes, to suddenly go extinct right after humans appeared on the scene. There is still plenty of debate and conjecture in orthodoxy over those extinctions, but what was a radical theory nearly fifty years ago is not so radical today, and has become the orthodox position, for good reason, IMO.

I have a lot to do today, but this is not the end of my mystical/Fringe Science interlude in this human journey narrative. I’ll make another post or two on this subject soon. As I have stated before, the Fringe Science and mystical stuff begins to have a hard time when their findings impact the rackets. Rackets can only exist in a world of scarcity. The suppression of FE is the big one and always has been. With the advent of FE comes the end of scarcity, which is why it is the Big One. The racketeers are hooked on scarcity as much as Richard Heinberg and friends are:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

The racketeers know that if FE got loose, it is game over for the rackets. The good news is that cooler heads may prevail on this matter:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

and I have stated in my interviews with Scott and Tom that if I had to put my money on it, I think that the battle over FE will be fought and won at those levels, not the low level that I am playing at, but that does not meant that I am going to sit around the house and await delivery of my FE machine. Even if FE appears while I am at this life project of mine, that choir will be vital in anchoring an enlightened implementation of FE. There are obviously potential downsides to FE if implemented in killer ape fashion, with delusional Young Warriors running the show (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors ), which is partly why I advocate that global peacekeeping force staffed by grandmothers during the transition period. :)

Time to go hiking with my wife, and then a long day in the office.

Best,

Wade

Robert J. Niewiadomski
26th August 2012, 22:17
Would like to address the so called overpopulation issue and FE in Adams article. All "developed" countries, which consume the most energy in the world are the ones with the lowest population growth. There was a white science study cited in NewScientist (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10316-in-tough-times-parents-may-reduce-care-for-kids.html) claiming that couples living in poverty and stressing conditions tend to have more children compared to more relaxed couples. My reasoning is that FE would not only allow to feed ALL of humanity but would cause people to have less children. With FE there is no need to farm the surface of the planet. With such an advanced technology like FE farming or any land intensive enterprise can be moved into the air or better yet into the orbit around the earth. The only limit is present scarcity indoctrination aka imagination. Wade's intent is to break "the spell" and encourage to look beyond the horizon.

From mystical point of view if enough of us humans start to share a common dream of FE coming true it will become a "reality" one day and start a paradigm shift for the rest of the planet. It all must start in the heart. And the mind will follow promptly...

Wade Frazier
27th August 2012, 05:01
Amen, Robert. I wrote about this topic long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#birthrate

and I will also do so in this human journey narrative. The single best determinant of birth rates today is the level of a woman’s education and her opportunities.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/97facts/edu2birt.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xytH0FveYA

Women do not naturally want to be baby machines. If they have other options, they would rather not spend their lives raising large broods of children. Also, when child mortality goes down, so does the birth rate. The improving standard of living of high energy societies is what liberated women in the West:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn7

What a high standard of living means today is a low birth rate, low child mortality, and no population growth. The world’s poor have lots of children, and it has been this way for centuries. It was the exploitation principle that fostered high birth rates and population growth. Having lots of children has been called the peasant’s route to wealth.

Child exploitation actually became worse in the early days of industrialization.

http://www.history.com/topics/child-labor

That situation helped inspire Karl Marx, and Charles Dickens worked in a factory when he was twelve, and wrote about those hellish conditions in his work.

Child labor today is the highest in the poorest nations, especially in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labour#Present_day

Slavery really began with agriculture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Early_history

People were exploitable assets in agricultural societies, and provided what an economist would call marginal utility. Raise everybody’s standard of living (and we know what that would be based on :) ), and birthrates probably go below ZPG for a while. So many societal structures encouraged big families (religions like Catholics, Mormons, etc., family farms, and so on).

Time for bed.

Best,

Wade

wynderer
27th August 2012, 06:13
a perhaps relevant fact i learned while reading 'Luddites: Rebels Against the Future' : the 'birth rate' soars & gets out of whack when people were/are forced away from living in traditional communities -- village life -- & are crowded into cities

for the first time in recorded history, more Humans live in cities now than in rural areas

Wade Frazier
27th August 2012, 14:30
Hi Wynderer:

The human population has been increasing, constantly, for tens of thousands of years. In Europe, it was the “surplus” rural population that supplied the cities with their people. There have been dips, and it was when cities had epidemics, or they collapsed by running out of energy (or wars over scarce resources). Violence is what tended to keep hunter-gatherer populations in check, but they always grew.

Malthus’s observation was accurate in that people bred to the carrying capacity of the land. When the North American continent was being invaded by Europeans two hundred years ago in the great American expansion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#steal1), whose methods wrenched far more energy from the land (deforestation, smelting, plow agriculture), the average woman had about eight children, and it was a rural phenomenon:.

http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/haines.demography

Industrialization, which became an urban phenomenon, is what dropped birth rates. Today, that phenomenon is called the demographic-economic paradox:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic-economic_paradox

In agricultural societies before industrialization, the rich often had larger families than the agrarian poor, but that was not sustainable, as the rich lived off the backs of the poor – there was only so much agricultural surplus to feed the rich. The population trends and underlying economic situation has been a complex one over the millennia, although rich city folk often had smaller families. In ancient Rome, as in the city, families were small, and adopting children was common, so one could have heirs. This is a subject that I plan to write more on when I write that essay.

The bottom line is that populations have always increased, globally, with extremely few exceptions, usually due to a catastrophe. The exploitation principle is behind religions encouraging high birthrates, to keep the pews and coffers filled. That exploitation principle was behind having large, agrarian families. When poverty ends, so do skyrocketing population increases. When women are free, they do not choose to be baby machines.

Radical feminists have long looked to the village as the ideal political-economic situation, and that goes back to Marx and Engels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_the_Family,_Private_Property_and_the_State

Indeed, before advanced industrialization, it was arguably when women had their highest standing compared to men, at least until today in industrialized societies. The lot of women is better than it has ever been, in industrialized societies. Similar to how the hunter-gatherer phase of human existence has been romanticized, so has village life. Most epic fantasy has an equivalent of The Shire where the epic quest against evil begins. The transition from hunter-gatherer to village life was done because the hunter-gatherer lifestyle was too successful and killed off all the easy meat. People shrank in size when they began domesticating plants and animals. While I can see the allure of village life, at least when compared to urban hells, it is largely a romanticized ideal. Go back to a village in the Fertile Crescent before the invasions by the pastoralists, and life was hard, real hard.

I’ll allow that the closest thing that we have to a window into those long ago times were the natives of North America when Europe began invading. There were some cities, such as at Cahokia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia

and it had a population collapse from deforestation and over-hunting. But, the village societies of the Eastern Woodlands were very intriguing and attractive to Europeans from the beginning, which is why so many ran off and went native. What villages have in their favor is that everybody knew everybody, at least if the village stayed at only a few hundred in size. The Caribbean that Columbus stumbled into was like that:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#first

It also appears that the Amazon had a series of connected villages. That is partly because they were Stone Age peoples and could not chop the trees down with abandon to smelt metals. They had no draft animals to pull plows or carts. A lot of that seemingly idyllic lifestyle was due to real economic limitations. The reason the villages moved in the Eastern Woodlands was because they used up all the available firewood (and depleted the soils).

But wherever villages were subject to being brought together into a higher level of social organization, they were. Villages had their elites, and they gave way to urban social organization when the economic situation was amenable to it. If people could have somehow prevented cities from forming, maybe it would have all stopped at the village level. Cities had their allure, however, and leaving the farm for the city is an age-old practice.

This also gets into the idea of carrying capacity. As Robert alluded to, which is a key point of my work, when FE and attendant technologies come forward, mining sunlight from the ecosystems will become obsolete. We can grow food in space if we want. The awesome destruction of Earth’s ecosystems in the service of our lifestyles will end, breaking a trend that began when people began burning the land to get more energy out of it.

I think that the past can be studied with profit, or I would have never done my site. But there is also no going back. The neo-Malthusians like Heinberg advocate getting rid of more than six billion excess people because when we run out of fossil fuels, Earth will not be able to support us all:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

His rationale is coming energy scarcity, but he does not want to hear about FE. Bizarre.

I have a long week ahead of me, but here is a brief continuation of my fringe/mystical theme…

Seth said that life is inherently non-competitive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#competition

but we have food chains. How can that be squared? I admit that I don’t know. Zoosh said that food chains, where primary producers are grazed, and the grazers preyed upon, is an Earth thing, and that many other planets don’t play that game. Hmmm…

When people review how complex life came to be, with bacteria being enveloped into archaeans and becoming mitochondria and chloroplasts, it becomes natural to wonder how life on other planets would have evolved. When I also hear that most ET species that have been catalogued are humanoid in form, it really makes me wonder. Is the humanoid form somehow universal? Is it only a feature of this corner of the galaxy? Was life seeded here and nudged along? I don’t have the answers. We likely won’t know until the ETs are able to come into the open. Then a lot of mysteries will be solved.

With what I know about the ET/UFO situation (the military tried to kill Brian over it http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack ), and how it is joined at the hip with FE, antigravity and the like, I know that the situation is a real one, not some fevered conspiracist fantasy. But what all is being covered up, I don’t know. There are plenty of theories out there, and alleged insiders appear almost daily, telling us what is happening, but I take those “revelations” with a grain of salt; much of it is likely disinformation, either intentionally disseminated by TPTB, or attention-seekers. We won’t know much about what is real and what is fake until it all comes into the open. Until then, all the wild speculation that you see on the Internet is counterproductive, IMO.

I have to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Melinda
27th August 2012, 14:52
...With FE there is no need to farm the surface of the planet. With such an advanced technology like FE farming or any land intensive enterprise can be moved into the air or better yet into the orbit around the earth. The only limit is present scarcity indoctrination aka imagination. Wade's intent is to break "the spell" and encourage to look beyond the horizon.

From mystical point of view if enough of us humans start to share a common dream of FE coming true it will become a "reality" one day and start a paradigm shift for the rest of the planet. It all must start in the heart. And the mind will follow promptly...

Thank you for that post Robert.

Wade, I looked back over my previous 2 posts and could really see how it appeared I was suggesting an exclusion of the mystical or fringe aspects from what you choose to explore! Apologies. That wasn't my intention. (A better word might have been 'mysterious', since I was referring to the sometimes shaky evidence of ancient/alien earth inhabitants that has occasionally been raised for discussion and how, despite the engaging nature / potential relevance of the surrounding issues, it can prove a distraction.) The examples that you've often cited here, such as remote-viewing and the craft at Gilliland's ranch, are obviously ones that people are free to experience for themselves. If, as you said, FE can make it into the open, "a lot is coming with it, such as the ET presence," (Post 2200), then it wouldn't take long for people to realise that advanced civilisations will likely have had ancient roots, and that if they (and their tech) are many millennia in advance of us they may well have visited before. But how the disclosure of FE and ETs might effect the research into our roots (on numerous levels) is a whole other discussion, for another time and place (and I note you've made this point in Post 2205.)

With regards to the mystical, not only do I enjoy that aspect of life, but it has played a fundamental role in my own awakening, and I see it as a key ingredient to breathing life into this new and more evolved reality we all envision. I've always understood that your intentions are far subtler than an attempt to 'convert' the masses via a public interaction. But I don't want to risk another long post, elaborating with the words I should have chosen. I regret the confusion (hopefully I haven't caused any more; I didn't mean to create unnecessary issues for you to address.)

Thank you for the links relating to population (Post 2203.) That's long been my understanding of how wealth/security/education relate to the equation, and obviously free-energy eliminates certain incentives for / causes of population growth . Your mystical post (2201) lead me to re-read your Spiritual Perspective essay. Lots of pointers to relevant literature there. Much appreciated.

I'll try and refrain from commenting for a while. Although I can't promise anything. This subject is so deeply engaging, though I sometimes struggle with editing my responses. Apologies all.

Wade Frazier
27th August 2012, 15:13
Hi:

I missed my bus, so I have some time before I have to run off for the next one.

As you can tell, this thread is continually weaving this way and that, usually in response to what people ask or observe. I think that that is OK, and why there are forums. But there are people who wonder what I am trying to do and how I am going about it. This post is for them, and maybe some that follow behind this.

I have posted the genesis of how I got here all over my site and on this thread. It is kind of like that Lennon lyric that says life is what happens while you are making plans. I was raised as a Golden Boy prodigy from almost the time that I could walk. I had opportunities that few people have ever enjoyed, and I have long felt a great responsibility to do something with it. When that voice first spoke to me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

if I had any idea of what it had in store for me, I might have said, “No thanks. I think I’ll do something boring with my life, like make a bunch of money.” But I heeded the voice, and my adventures began. One of the bizarre parts of my journey is that when I began living up to the Golden Boy aspirations that my parents had for me, they instead attacked me and disowned me. That was one of the harder aspects of my journey, but by no means the hardest. Sacrificing my life to give Dennis a snowball’s chance closed the door on being a parent and other life events that people often think is their birthright:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

but I certainly have no regrets. As I staggered from Ventura in 1990, my life was shattered and I was suffering from PTSD, for good reason. That was when I really began to go deep on the study that eventually became my site. The Internet did not exist when I began that study, so I had no ideas about writing a website, and until 2001, I still thought that I would write a book or two. That will never happen.

I am still making it up as I go, and for several years now, I have been doing the study that I plan to use to write that comprehensive essay. I am a long way from sketching its themes on this thread, and it once again shows me that I have a long ways to go. That essay is not going to get done this year, but I am putting its themes on this thread, and that will have to be good enough for now.

I did not interact with the public for years, wrestling with my monster of a midlife crisis, and it was an invitation to the White House that finally brought the situation to a head:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

and I sought professional help like I did in 1991, and my midlife crisis finally ended. A few things then happened. Brian and I began to correspond again, I began engaging the public again, which led to my first interview:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm

and then this essay brought Brian fully back into my life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

and we began collaborating in a way that we had not done before. One thing led to another, and he and I eventually did an interview with Bill and Kerry:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm

None of it was planned, and one thing led to another. The Avalon forum was a complete surprise to me. I was planning on getting that essay done and then engage the public in some kind of invitation-only forum, because I had it demonstrated in no uncertain terms that there was no all-comers forum on Earth that could host the conversation that I planned:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll

Avalon came along before I was ready to engage the public again, but I have no regrets. All along, however, ever since 1990, my goal has been to engage the public, to get some of them to think about the FE issue. In the past twenty years, that task has been an increasingly dismaying experience, not only for me, but for people like Brian, too:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

The possible candidates for having the conversation that I want to have shrank and shrank. Even the people in the FE milieu today don’t understand. They are all in Levels 6 to 11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

Brian thought the closest to me that I have seen, but he was still playing around Level 10 to the end.

Time to run off, but more coming.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
27th August 2012, 21:45
Hey there Wade. While on vacation, me and the wife took the opportunity to take the tour of the infamous Oak Ridge nuclear facility in eastern Tennessee today. Leaving all of the WW 2 propaganda we were treated to for a different time (it was breathtaking), the energy issue was also placed front and center. Of course you know the drill...

We have to be more like France, more money for research, more nuclear plants, maybe fusion some day(at a price of course), blah blah blah. Towards the end, I was already not the most popular questioner of our tour guide, by asking questions about contamination, health issues, and such, so by the time my question concerning cold fusion was scoffed at unsurprisingly, I was more thinking about getting a cold beer, than asking about the possibilities if FE. :rolleyes:

Cheers,
Fred

Wade Frazier
28th August 2012, 05:05
Hi AWP:

It is big hearted of you, but there is no need to apologize, and my responses are not aimed at you like you may think they are. Your posts are pretty astute, and can be as poetic as Sandy’s.

In nearly forty years of this game, the experiences that I have had with people on these subjects run well into the thousands. A lot of what I do is reiterate positions that I have because I am well aware of how difficult they can be to grasp. Even with people who want to understand, it is often an exercise of me taking a run at it from several different directions before their eyes light up, although almost nobody ever gets to Level 12. And guess how many times I have gone through that exercise to find out that the person was not really trying to understand, but trying to lure me into some kind of trap where they could zing me (usually around defending their scarcity-based ideology of choice, or their justification for violence and coercion)? :) That is not the case at Avalon, which is partly why I have the presence here that I do.

A truly comprehensive perspective will integrate a mystical awareness into it, because it is definitely part of the whole, so materialists are not truly comprehensive thinkers, even the best of them. Bucky was a deeply spiritual dude. Again, these are all big subjects that it would take days of conversation to begin to cover their contours, which is a limitation in how I am going about this, so I have to sketch the ideas and let people connect many of the dots. Not many people can really do that today, but if I have to spell everything out, they are probably not my target audience. The trick is to straddle the polarities. One of the most common themes in my work is around that kind of balance. After being the target of some very involved “conspiracies,” I certainly don’t deny them, but I don’t lie awake at night thinking about them, either. Structuralists and the conspiracists both fail to see the big picture, but they have their victim-orientation in common:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

Similarly, one of the most common hazards of playing mystic is floating off into irrelevance and magical thinking, being so heavenly bound that people are no earthly good. Our job for now is to live in this world. What we do while we are here is what is important. Materialists tend to worship the mechanism, while magical thinkers tend to deny its importance. Acknowledge the mechanism without worshipping it – that is the trick. Also, realizing that the so-called mechanism cannot be so easily isolated, and a lot is lost in the reductionism, is something that some scientists are slowly learning. As Seth said, when a scientist kills a frog to find out how it lived, the scientist ends up knowing less of life, not more, when the dissection is complete. Again, these people had genetic engineering:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

as did these people:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

The difference is that one operated from the heart, and the other did not. One killed animals with abandon, and one never did. I don’t claim to know all the answers for how that heavenly world was created, but I know that its bedrock was love, and they mastered FE and other stuff that is being kept under wraps today. I constantly refer to them as an example of what can be. I was pursuing that kind of world long before I read Roads’s account of it, but it is a handy star to steer by.

OK, back to the “why am I doing this, and what am I doing” questions.

In some ways, it could be seen as trying to find a habitation zone – one that is not too close to the sun, but not so far out that we get lost in space. Dennis tracked right at the sun, and I went along for the ride more than once. The heat was more than I could stand, but that was where my most important learning experiences were. Over the years, I have encountered people who reminded me of where I would be if that voice had not led me on my crazy journey. I have met a fair number of those overgrown Boy Scouts on my journey, but who had not been through the meat grinder. They were all well-meaning, but naïve. Some learned some of the lessons the hard way, after I tried to talk them out of it, and that has not been easy to watch, let me tell you. I have seen careers end and lives get wrecked by gung-hoers who had not been through the meat grinder yet. I usually avert my eyes anymore, and try to avoid hearing the shrieks as they get caught in the maw.

When I see people with inventor-itis, thinking that they can do FE in their garages and save the world, I do my best to sober them up, but it feels like warning people about the killer bunny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

One person who looked at me like I was crazy, when I told him about my experience on the witness stand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

later lost his career as he tried to chat up his office about FE, after I warned him to not give up his day job for the FE pursuit, if he could not afford to starve. He is still at it, but limping along. This is NSFW stuff.

Anyway, getting meaningful experience in the FE field can be life-threatening, especially when you play at the high levels, and most who get scorched still really don’t see the big picture - all they know is they got scorched and it hurt. I was astounded at the naïveté of some of my fellow travelers, as they walked right into the lion’s den, thinking that they were going in to pet a kitty, people who were one heck of a lot older and worldlier than me, or so I thought. But if few survive the learning experience, and those few who do fail to learn the lessons anyway, how in the heck does any of this have a prayer? I spent many years trying to engage the “left,” beginning with Chomsky, but I never really found anybody who could go there. Brian tried to get some to go there, for many years, and he had access that I will never have, and he virtually never found anybody home, either. Instead, “progressives” and environmentalists sat in rapt attention, listening to the dirge of Heinberg and friends, or they thought that people like Branson actually pursue real solutions. Left, right, center, scientists, lay people, academics, New Agers, environmentalists, etc., - nobody is home, anywhere. That is probably the most surreal part of my journey, and it spurred people like Brian to wonder if we are a sentient species:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

It is a fair question, IMO. I say that humanity is semi-sentient. Most can get by in their lives, but much of it is learning tricks of survival, and one of them is hitching their wagons to the scarcity-based ideologies of their choice, which feeds them, so they will go to their graves, never budging from where they dug in. In Brian’s later interviews, he called it “digging in their heels.”

It took me many years to begin to understand what all of those crazy reactions had in common, and it is a key part of the conundrum. Only people whose hearts are in the right place are going to refrain from digging in their heels when faced with the specter of FE and abundance (Oh, the horror! :) ). Where to find such people? That search has never been easy and is almost entirely fruitless, anywhere that you go on Earth. I eventually realized that no group had it. Not one of them. But are there some places where you could throw a rock and you have a chance of hitting at least one of them? The Internet expanded our fishing opportunities, but that has largely been a dismaying experience for me, until I saw Bill start this forum. And then Ilie caught on real quickly about what I was trying to do, and I saw that it was possible for some to get it without going through the meat grinder, etc. Dennis and I learned many of our lessons the hard way, being almost entirely ignorant of how the land lied. The Internet has the virtue of bringing the pieces of the puzzle together, if you know what pieces are genuine, and few really are. That is also part of the conundrum. There are far more pretenders than contenders in any field, but the perils and temptations go up a few orders of magnitude in the FE game. In no other field that I know of are people offered a billion dollars to go away, especially at the seemingly relatively primitive levels that we were playing at:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

What I saw was that people with their hearts in the right place usually had no idea of what they could really do to right the ship. They would act in their immediate vicinity, helping those around them, and that would take up all their time. Many of them realize that they are only bailing water on the Titanic, but really have no idea of how to make the impact needed to patch the hull and turn a cruise ship into a star ship. I know how. :) But people have to do two things, first:

1. Throw away most of what they think they know;

2. Learn to think comprehensively.

That is far, far harder than it looks. Almost nobody wants to do the first one, because what they “know” feeds them. They know the trick to getting fed and temporarily sating their addictions, and that is all that they want to achieve in this lifetime. I understand them and do not attempt to engage them. If they can’t do the first thing, they can’t begin to do the second. Much of my site is to help people shake their scarcity-based ideologies. They have already be willing to, and I can only help them do the work. But after they shed those beliefs, or begin to work on them, then what? Most of the problem with people focusing on the energy issue is that few non-scientists understand how central the issue is, in how we have ridden the energy situation since the beginning of life on Earth, how energy scarcity defines our existences in ways that few are aware of, and what the potential of abundant, environmentally harmless energy can be. It would be the biggest paradigm shift ever. As you can see on this thread, many commenters do not yet understand that issue very well.

The point of my hewing to the orthodox position is to make the energy issue very clear. No fringe science really has to be invoked to make that clear. If the mammoths died because they ran out of food or they became food, either way, it was an energy issue. But getting into too much Fringe Science can lead the conversation astray, where it begins to get into highly conjectural areas that can get pretty far afield from the energy issue. A little later on this thread, I am going to make a post that shows the big energy events in the history of life, so that the reason why it generates thousands of times more energy per pound than the sun does will become clearer.

There is also some hazard with this little plan of mine. Gene Mallove’s murder spooked Brian, for good reason:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

even though the crime has allegedly been solved:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Mallove#Death

Godzilla has not forgotten about me. When Mr. Professor and I rescued Dennis, the White Hats cheered and the Black Hats hissed. Dennis still almost died before it was over, but he escaped the dark hole that they were preparing for him. I am on the radar. I hope that I am not too high on the radar, but we will see. The good news is that they will try to take me out before they try it with anybody else involved in my little effort. They will also look for weak links to exploit, but I am not doing much where there are links to exploit. That is partly why I am doing this the way that I am.

On organizing these Avalon efforts, making those other threads was a way to get some themes going, and I think it worked well. These two threads:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29372-What-technologies-activities-or-concepts-will-be-made-obsolete-by-Free-Energy/page9

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth/page4

are way better than this thread, IMO. They get the essence of some key points across a lot better than this meandering thread.

On another note…

Fred! You were supposed to dutifully ooh and aah at the wonders of our nuke program and how we saved the world from evil by nuking those Japanese women and children. We were invited by the chairman of the board of Seabrook:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#seabrook

to a tour of their nuke, where I could have worn a hard hat and oohed and aahed at the technological magnificence, but we passed on the opportunity, which I have always regretted. :)

If you are going to play the game, you have to play it right. :)

When Dennis and I spoke at those DOE hearings next to the Savannah facility:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_River_Site

the street next to the hearing building was named something like Atomic Boulevard.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

Talk about a company town…

That is enough for one day. Gotta go to bed.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
28th August 2012, 14:27
Hi:

I don’t have much time this morning, but here goes.

Seth said that what we see in the natural world is partly a projection of our consciousness. When we see animals acting in Darwinian fashion, it is reflecting back to us our own awareness. This is a really challenging idea, when faced with the world as we see it. How much do we create our own realities? The mystical idea is that it is co-created, and nobody is a victim. Once in a while, somebody like a Roads will have experiences where the “mass-hallucination” aspect of physical reality is evident. That is an experience that I have never had, and I can understand people’s skepticism about it, especially when being a victim is one of the oldest themes in the human journey.

Those two future Earths that Roads visited made it clear how a society’s attitude had everything to do with its relationship with nature:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

It can be a fairytale or a nightmare. But the intersection of spirit with matter has always been the big mystery, and it is about the biggest bone of contention between the materialists and the mystics. You know the drill, “If we really create our own realities, let’s see you fly!” “Where is the mark of consciousness in the design and functioning of our reality?” Where exactly is the soul seated in the human body?” Those are not easy questions to answer. For myself and my fellow travelers, we all had to have our eyes opened by mystical experiences, the kind that were so dramatic that they could not be denied:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

Everybody that I have respected in the FE field had a mystical perspective, and they all had some kind of dramatic mystical awakening, the kind that a “skeptic” can never invalidate, and I always advise people to go get some mystical experience, first, before embarking on this “Wade’s World” stuff. These are not really areas where the rationalist-materialist paradigm works. But then staying grounded is often the challenge. People can tend to float off into dreamy New Age stuff, or Fringe Science that has marginal validity. These are all hazards of the path.

One thing that is very challenging is the medical paradigm and the findings of microscopes such as those of Rife and Naessens:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=517775&viewfull=1#post517775

and what they portend. The primary upshot, for me, is that at the subcellular level, there are dynamics happening that White Science completely ignores. If pleomorphic dynamics are ever acknowledged, they are largely dismissed as unimportant. The findings of those microscopes say differently, dramatically differently. What is the importance? It appears to be huge. It supports the humoral view of cancer, instead of the “solidest” one. It really upends the applecart of how life is viewed at the subcellular level. Since we are all built from that level, the implications are vast. Just what all they are, I am not sure, but the fun should be in the exploring, but the findings of those microscopes have been banned for generations, in one of the most surreal situations in the life sciences that I know of.

I don’t think that any of that makes the evolutionary journey from single-celled life to complex life, as currently viewed by orthodox science, invalid. I’ll buy that photosynthetic bacteria became chloroplasts, and respiring bacteria became mitochondria. But, as is speculated, the somatid or something like it may be a key part of the bridge between life and inanimate matter. It is virtually unexplored territory, and it can be incredible to know that those microscopes have been around for nearly a hundred years. Those microscopes are probably the best example that I know of valid Fringe Science. Most Fringe Science claims are some kind of reinterpretation of well-known evidence, such as Velikovsky’s evidence for planetary near-misses wiping out the mammoths. Those microscopes, however, provide fresh evidence that anybody can see if they bother to take the time. But orthodox science refuses to. That is why Christopher Bird called Naessens the Galileo of the microscope. Rife was, too.

What about intelligent design? This is a very difficult area, and where I think that many Fringe Scientists go astray. I think that the Creator is way too subtle to leave blatant evidence, and it was likely “designed” that way. :) The mind-body connection is likely too subtle for modern instruments to do much more than hint at it. Do a remote viewing, and one’s materialist beliefs quickly evaporate, but it is up to each person to have that experience for themselves. Nobody can really do it for anybody else. We can help each other, but can’t do it for each other. Brian O was a big advocate of scientific testing of that stuff.

I have written that I mummified fruit when I was younger. It is really an easy experiment to perform:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=496281&viewfull=1#post496281

I am attaching a photo from one of Brian’s books, from his decay experiments with Marcel Vogel. They did not do it psychically, but with crystal energy. The results can really be spectacular. When you do it yourself, that is the most powerful evidence. Seek experience has always been my advice in these areas. Go watch a UFO light up on request:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

and you will never buy the debunker explanations. It really is a huge scandal that areas like this are kept off limits to White Science, but a big part of that is to keep the rackets intact, and White Scientists oblige the dark pathers, blinkered by their paradigm. But that does not make all Fringe Science valid, and most of it is chaff. You usually have to go deep to validate any of it, and I have spent years going deep on many fringe claims, to see them fall apart on further inspection. One area like that are the claims that the moon landings were faked:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

and it can be highly educational to go deep into some of those areas. Winnowing the chaff from the wheat is something that everybody who plays the fringe game should do at least once.

For many years, people have advocated a hollow Earth. Well, now that the Arctic Ocean’s ice is melting with global warming, boats have been actually crossing the North Pole. If the Earth is hollow, that legendary opening at the North Pole does not appear to exist. So, what to make of all of those accounts by people who said they went into the hollow Earth? Were they making it up? I think that is likely the case, and an example of the hazards in these fields.

Similarly, all those stories about the moon being brought here started looking shaky when the moon rocks were brought back and dated. They are just the right age for the theories that the moon was ripped from Earth by a collision with a planetary body just after Earth formed around 4.5 billion years ago. Similarly, when chondrite meteorites have been found and dated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondrite

they also date to about when the solar system was formed. And when the dating methods can align with measured crustal movements like the mountain chain that formed the Hawaiian Islands:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian-Emperor_seamount_chain

the challenges to radioactive dating begin to appear to be on shaky ground.

When Dennis was flying high again in 1996, I read some “channeled” information about our efforts, but it sounded just like one of Dennis’s sales pitches. Not all channeling is created equal. :)

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

David Hughes
29th August 2012, 06:46
Humanities collective level of semi-sentience is one reason why we have the reality we have today.

I came across a thread on here a few months back describing something called a Kundalini awakening and the description people give of what that is like is the closest thing i’ve come across to explaining how I felt when I had my mystical awakening in my early 20’s. The one major difference that I find odd is I was just walking back from a day at the pool in the sun when mine happened, whereas anyone i've read about who has had a Kundalini awakening has been in a meditative state. I had just cleared a vodka hangover. :)

A FE based reality would be a cake-walk if love and free energy were joined at the hip. Not so much if combined with fear, greed, hate etc.

Wade Frazier
29th August 2012, 11:58
Hi David:

Hmmm… the vodka route to enlightenment…You may be onto something! :)

Yes, with a loving approach, if people could muster it, FE would be here almost overnight. You are getting at why love and FE are joined at the hip, and there are several dimensions of it. That primary lesson that I learned on my journey, that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

was really the realization that people live in fear, not love. People operating from love have personal integrity, but almost nobody does these days. This also relates to that semi-sentient or semi-conscious nature.

As I have stated, I have long suspected that the ZPF is divine in nature, and until we mustered sufficient divine motivation (AKA, acting from love), that we won’t be able to successfully tap it. Level 19s are able to do it because they have mastered love:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

This society has also mastered love:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

and they consciously chose it. I think that we can consciously choose it. We won’t always achieve it, but we can always strive for it. In some ways, this can seem trite, “Let’s just love each other.” But that is truly the secret for making FE happen.

I actually have to run off the work right now, so no FE energy and the human journey post today.

Best,

Wade

wynderer
30th August 2012, 12:27
hi Wade -- if the actualization/manifestation of free energy depends on the collective consciousness of Humans, then, imo, free energy is doomed in this dimension -- i'd posted before that i saw you as one who will lead others out of this dimension when the timelines diverge or whatever is soon to happen -- & that it was my privilege to know a free energy researcher [who was killed, imo] whose consciousness was very high -- very high vibration -- a vibration that does not resonate w/the collective human consciousness & especially not w/the collective human unconscious

re the eastern woodland tribes you'd mentioned, & that many settlers fled white life to live w/the tribes -- this ties in w/the abundance manifestation being related to consciousness: the Iroquois Confederacy began w/a vision, by Deganawidah, a Huron -- he & Hiawatha visited individual families -- sat w/them at their fires & shared the vision of the tribes living in peace w/each other

amazingly, humans actually listened to one of their prophets, & the tribes met & signed a peace treaty [they also stopped the practice of cannabalism, which was way more widespread among indigenous peoples worldwide than you'll hear about in history books -- i figure, Humans eat/devour/consume [to extinction at times] everything else living on this planet -- why not each other too?]

when Sullivan came thru to wipe out the Seneca, his troops destroyed the acres & acres of peach trees that years of living in peace w/each other had allowed to flourish -- & this area supplied all food for the original 13 colonies for many years, the land being well cared for

i've read, too, that after a traveling tribe broke camp & moved on, the woods they left behind looked like a beautiful park because of the respectful-to-Earth ways in which the people gathered their wood

also, the women in the Iroquios Confederacy were respected -- in many tribes, the Grandmothers, who sat & watched the children play -- the Grandmothers could see which child was called to be a shaman, which child was a natural leader & warrior, etc, & the children were given the guidance & teachings to best fit them for their path/work in that lifetime

Wade Frazier
30th August 2012, 14:36
Hi Wynderer:

If by mass consciousness, you mean everybody, including Joe Average, I agree, and I have never advocated it. I am surprised that I keep getting posts that seem to make the case that I advocate it. I call that mass movement strategy Level 10:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

Dennis was the master of Level 10 attempts, and I tried several with him, and saw how easy they were to defeat. I am shooting to amass 0.0001% of the global population. That is anything but a mass movement.

None of the great breakthroughs were ever initiated by mass consciousness. Mass consciousness, on this planet right how, is the semi-sentient braying of the herd. The big stuff always happened by starting with one person, who was able to “infect” a pretty small group, who went out and initiated it. Once the ball got rolling, more joined up. Jesus was one man. Buddha was one man. The Great Peacemaker of the Iroquois was one man. It starts with one. Paul, however, did not understand, as have most followers of those greats who initiated those changes. The FE project will not work with a bunch of proselytizing Pauls going at it. That is the old way, trying to attract the semi-sentient. The FE project has to aim far higher.

As I have stated repeatedly, FE newbies always try to mass market it, and that will never work. The reasons are several, with humanity’s current lack of personal integrity being the main reason:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

That is not a judgment, just an observation that was the primary lesson of my journey. That brings up all sorts of questions, such as if humanity is a bunch of uncaring, semi-sentient killer apes, then why even try to help them? If they got their hands on FE, they would just destroy the planet with it, just like Heinberg and friends say they fear (but I think that something else is happening there http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation). Those negative arguments are not easily dismissed, but I think that they sell humanity’s potential short. I am not saying that FE cannot be perilous, but its potential is a healed planet, a healed and sentient humanity, and something that looks like heaven on Earth. That FE is real and denied by 99.99% of humanity is surreal, but Godzilla has been carefully managing the situation, and the Great Herd has played along. That all the Heinbergs can see is the downside, without even acknowledging the upside, is bizarre, and just how Godzilla likes it.

Because of some of the banter on this thread, I found myself listening again to Brian’s interview with Mike Adams from several years ago:

http://www.naturalnews.com/podcasts/Brian-Oleary-2008.mp3

Oh, how I miss his voice. Brian sums it up well. The Lone Rangers of FE are easily picked off one at a time by Godzilla. But that is only part of it. Being betrayed by their own foibles and family, friends, and “allies,” and being targeted by the local energy interest predators, comprises a far greater hazard than Godzilla does. Godzilla only appears if aspirants survive the early levels of the game. That virtually all I get is denial when I discuss those facts is also part of the problem. Virtually all FE newbies think that making FE happen is easy, because they are now involved. :) Their egos get involved, and they think that they have the magic answer. Well, there is a magic answer, and it is love, the most mysterious force in the universe.

I write about the Iroquois in my work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#iroquois

but I don’t romanticize them. Those were still brutal times:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#champlain

and torturing captives to death was part of that culture.

As I have stated plenty on this thread, I am hoping to help some people understand my message. Ilie largely does, and so do a few others whom I hear from at Avalon. As Ilie has remarked, that is surely not enough to make anything happen, and I’ll agree. My goal is to begin with a few Ilies, and find a few more, and a few more. Because of what I saw on my journey, I knew that there were two ways with a chance. One is what I call the hundred heroes model:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

The problem is that there are not a hundred on the planet to find. Dennis is the only person on Earth that I ever heard of who could successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Heroes that could complete most of that application would also qualify, so I know of a few more, but it is only a few. But not only do those hundred heroes either not exist or are too scattered and anonymous that they can’t be rounded up and focused on the task, but the price that it extracts from each can be awesome, and I am not going to ask that of anybody. I am not looking for heroes. You really have to see what they go through to believe it.

I saw how Level 10 efforts were doomed, as well as Levels 6, 7, 9, and 11, so I came up with something different. If I can just get thousands of people to wake up to the reality of FE and its potential, it might have a chance. Somebody told me on this thread that Greg Braden put a number of something like eight thousand people for that critical mass awareness. That is right in the range that I thought it would take (my estimate was 5-10 thousand). But the people that I am looking for are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population. This is anything but an easy task, done in my “spare” time, after surviving my adventures and putting in several years of my time, for free, at it. I spent about ten years of my life, for free, doing this and I barely survived the experience, and I spent another ten years of my life digging out of the debt that those “working for free” years extracted from the family finances. That kind of eats up a life and precluded “frills” such as having children. There is nothing easy about what I am doing. FE would be the biggest event in human history, by far, so I figure it is worth my life to try to move the ball forward toward the goal line, while juggling my life, trying to live somewhat normally. Doing what I do beats watching TV, at least to me. I think that humanity is worth it, even though I don’t immediately dismiss all the negative arguments that people give me that humanity is a worthless piece of crap that deserves to go extinct.

OK, I have digressed enough over the last week, dealing with forum posts. My mystical and fringe science posts are done for now. Back to the human journey, and more from the orthodox perspective. One way that you can tell that the areas that I am investigating are not being actively manipulated by Godzilla is that they change all the time. Radical theories appear on the scene and get tested. Some prevail, while others fall by the wayside. The image of the Mayans and their fall radically changed with advances in paleo-climate science and deciphering their writings. They were all-too-human, as usual. About thirty years ago, a radical new theory posited that a bolide impact wiped out the dinosaurs. It was hotly contested when it appeared, but the evidence won, and it is now the orthodox position:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=530604&highlight=bolide#post530604

For a number of years afterward, scientists proposed that bolide events caused all the mass extinctions, but that has now been disproven.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=509500&highlight=medea#post509500

Those are a few examples. When coming into the historical era, however, it can get more complex and difficult to unravel, but I am about to make the attempt.

Where you can see glimpses of Godzilla’s hand is that we still drive gasoline-powered, internal combustion engines, a hundred years after we first started driving them. Thermodynamics has not fundamentally changed since the 19th century. Microscopes such as Rife’s and Naessens’s are banished from the halls of orthodoxy. Attacking the tumor is the only legal cancer “treatment” in the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket


Off to work now.

Best,

Wade

wynderer
30th August 2012, 15:05
my first thought when clicking on your post was, 'Thank you, Wade, for treating me w/respect'

a comment /response to these 2 quotes from your post:

'As I have stated repeatedly, FE newbies always try to mass market it, and that will never work. The reasons are several, with humanity’s current lack of personal integrity being the main reason:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

That is not a judgment, just an observation that was the primary lesson of my journey. That brings up all sorts of questions, such as if humanity is a bunch of uncaring, semi-sentient killer apes, then why even try to help them? If they got their hands on FE, they would just destroy the planet with it, just like Heinberg and friends say they fear (but I think that something else is happening there '

& this from your post:

'Because of what I saw on my journey, I knew that there were two ways with a chance. One is what I call the hundred heroes model:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

The problem is that there are not a hundred on the planet to find. Dennis is the only person on Earth that I ever heard of who could successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Heroes that could complete most of that application would also qualify, so I know of a few more, but it is only a few. But not only do those heroes not exist or are too scattered and anonymous that they can’t be rounded up and focused on the task, but the price that it extracts from each can be awesome, and I am not going to ask that of anybody. I am not looking for heroes. You really have to see what they go through to believe it. '

i thought of something Alex Collier said in one of his talks, speaking to Earth Human men: 'You are heroes!' & [paraphrasing] 'believe in yourselves' -- i could go off on a tangent here re how Godzilla takes & perverts the natural idealism of boys & young men

imo, the reason why you are continuing to try to get your message of truth out, knowing that it might cost you your life on this potential paradise of a planet -- & my own answer to Ilie' concern re how few are hearing -- which i sometimes express as 'Why bother?' -- i think you answered these concerns w/this from your post:

'Well, there is a magic answer, and it is love, the most mysterious force in the universe.'

i continue to try to carry my own rather difficult message of truth re Godzilla from the p.o.vv of a bloodline abductee/milab because there is so much that is good about Earth Humans -- & much of this goodness they share w/the other mammals on this planet -- music, dancing, joking around, love & care for mate & children, etc, etc

wyn

Chris Gilbert
30th August 2012, 16:02
Though she was one of my all time favorite teachers, I noticed that my Anthropology professor largely glossed over any discussion of Iroquois treatment of their war prisoners. I can understand however, as she is Native American herself, and when you compare many of the Native tribes to the Europeans, the later seem far worse. Still, the Northeast villages were definitely not utopias.

I think I admire the Hopi most overall. :)

mosquito
31st August 2012, 06:29
Adams writes: "...With essentially free energy powering a new generation of electric cars, trucks, planes and earth-moving equipment (with their Mr. Fusion devices on board), there is no longer any natural barrier to property development. Electric-powered personal aircraft would become practical and affordable, allowing the commercialization of previously remote sites. Even the paving of new roads and railways becomes remarkably cheap when energy costs nothing. Free energy could unleash the most drastic population explosion and development boom ever seen on our planet. And the result, I fear, would be the near-complete destruction of our natural world..."

Hi everyone, I'm back from 3 weeks in the Philippines, it's nice to see so much thoughtful writing here recently.

I've not read all of what Adams says, but the above quote nicely illustrates what I was saying a while back: The prevailing mentality is one that says "Free energy ? Yippee - bigger cars and more houses". The change in paradigm and mindset has to go hand-in-hand with the introduction of FE, and as has been said so often, the first step is awakening people to the possibility of a scarcity-free existence.

My recent travels taught me a lot about people's perception of wealth and abundance, such that I've been considering starting a new thread around the topic, the contributions here are helping galvanize my (admittedly slow) thoughts !! ;)

Love to all, Philip

Robert J. Niewiadomski
31st August 2012, 07:50
Hi

This is in response to Wade mentioning Rife's and Naessens’s microscopes again and synchronicity with something i have read today :) Below is snippet from an articles hinting at "White Science" catching up with idea that light can be focused without using traditional, bulk, cumbersome and heavy lenses or parabolic mirrors.

This is from August 23r, 2012 (encountered today):


Flat lens offers a perfect image
August 23, 2012
Ultrathin wafer of silicon and gold focuses telecom wavelengths without distortion
Cambridge, Mass. – August 23, 2012 – Applied physicists at the Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS) have created an ultrathin, flat lens that focuses light without imparting the distortions of conventional lenses.

At a mere 60 nanometers thick, the flat lens is essentially two-dimensional, yet its focusing power approaches the ultimate physical limit set by the laws of diffraction.

Operating at telecom wavelengths (i.e., the range commonly used in fiber-optic communications), the new device is completely scalable, from near-infrared to terahertz wavelengths, and simple to manufacture. The results have been published online in the journal Nano Letters.

“Our flat lens opens up a new type of technology,” says principal investigator Federico Capasso, Robert L. Wallace Professor of Applied Physics and Vinton Hayes Senior Research Fellow in Electrical Engineering at SEAS. “We’re presenting a new way of making lenses. Instead of creating phase delays as light propagates through the thickness of the material, you can create an instantaneous phase shift right at the surface of the lens. It’s extremely exciting.”
(...)

Full story: https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news-events/press-releases/flat-lens-offers-perfect-image

If you think the above dilutes this thread i apologize and ask you to just acknowledge and then ignore my post :)

Wade Frazier
31st August 2012, 13:59
Hi:

OK, back to the human journey. The authors of The 10,000 Year Explosion stated (p. 181),

“Standard ecological theory indicates that when two similar populations use the same resources, the one with the greater carrying capacity always wins.”

They introduced that idea as they made the case that herders that could now digest milk due to their genetic changes, and could thereby extract five times the energy from an acre of pasture than herders could, who could only raise grazing animals for meat, would expand at the expense of those that had that lower “carrying capacity.”

Those herders with their milk-drinking ways conquered their world and spread their language (Indo-European), sky-god religion (one offshoot became the Judeo-Christian religions), and patriarchal social organization of priests, warriors, and herder/farmers far and wide. A couple thousand years after they began expanding, some of those who invaded northern Europe developed light hair and eyes (there is still controversy on the dates, but those two trends were closely intertwined). The genes for hair color and eye color are next to each other. This is how the blond-haired, blue-eyed milk maiden came to be. Once light-haired and light-eyed people appeared, it is thought that sexual selection spread the traits. Blond hair and blue eyes was novel and attractive. The ancient Greeks and Romans often died their hair blond:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond_hair#Southern_Europe

In Earl Cook’s Man, Energy, Society, he wrote (p. 196):

“In mass warfare as in individual fist fights, the good big man always beats the good little man. Big and little apply also to energy resources available to the combatants.”

Cook then discussed how the availability of energy was the critical factor in a nation’s ability to wage war. In America’s Civil War, the South was more determined and more militarily talented than the North, but the South would not withstand the industrial capacity of the North, with its coal mines, steel, and railroads. Industrialized war took the horror to a new level, and having a secure energy supply was the key to victory. Japan invaded Manchuria for energy, for farming calories and most particularly to get at its coal mines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Manchukuo#Coal

Cutting off the German energy supply is what led to the end of World War I:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Germany_during_World_War_I#Home_front

To go back earlier, when Europe conquered the world, when the high energy societies of Europe met the Stone Age peoples from around the world, those low energy societies never had a chance. After the highly costly Napoleonic Wars, for the next century, Great Britain only waged war against non-industrialized nations that they could plunder. The USA has followed the same prescription since World War II. Only wage war against weak nations that can be exploited has been the American way in my lifetime.

Today, from the world’s richest to poorest economies, energy consumption is the most important variable of economic output. I am putting up a chart from Smil’s Energy at the Crossroads to make that point. I also did so in my original energy essay of long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/gnpnrg.jpg

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#economics

In both graphs, you can see that the USA’s energy consumption per GNP per capita is about the same as China’s. It really does not vary much, and never really has. Energy does the work. Earl Cook wrote (p. 272):

“The principle that labor, when applied to energy resources, can be returned many times in new forms is the basis and hope of modern society.”

But I want to take this dynamic much earlier, to the early civilization. The hunter-gatherer blitzkrieg that drove the easy meat to extinction did not last long. As I have written, the domestication of plants and animals happened independently in quite a few places on Earth, all in antiquity:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=542587&highlight=guinea#post542587

and about all the candidates for domestication were domesticated. Because the megafauna extinction was so thorough in the Americas, all candidates for draft animals went extinct, so the peoples of the Western Hemisphere had almost no domestic animals when the Europeans invaded. The Aztecs had the wheel, but only for children’s toys. Wheels and roads made no sense when there were no animals to pull the carts.

But before plants were made into crops, in Syria about 14,000 years ago, entire villages subsisted on acorns. Acorns are not edible by humans unless they first have the tannic acid leached from them. Making acorns edible is one of the earliest instances of mass food processing. Many ancient cultures, particularly the Indians of California:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn#As_food

subsisted on acorns, either partly or nearly wholly. The California natives had a kind of acorn warehouse that could feed a family for a couple of years. But having a stationary food supply like that effectively ended the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. A local and stationary energy supply is what led to civilization. The tribes of the Pacific Northwest were able to subsist on salmon running up the rivers to spawn. Salmon provided about half the calories of those societies. So, in a few places, sedentary societies formed without the need for agriculture (the oak tree has never been domesticated), but it was only in a few choice spots. Everywhere else, plants and animals needed to be domesticated.

Proto-humans began evolving to eat more meat several million years ago. There has certainly been an adaptation to eating meat:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Meat+in+the+human+diet:+an+anthropological+perspective-a0169311689

but humans really are poor carnivores. If we look to our chimpanzee cousins, fruit was our mainstay long ago and continues to be the ideal human food. But leaving our homes meant adapting to other foods, reflecting our omnivorous heritage. But the seed and root crops, as well as milk products and domestic meat production, are all very recent innovations in the human diet, and we are not well adapted to them. They enabled people to get sufficient calories past their natural home in Africa, but it came with many prices, escalating violence being only one of them. Since few lived to a ripe old age until humanity could ride the energy wave of industrialization, the damaging effects of our diets did not become a major issue until only the past few centuries. The cellular damage (free-radical related) from consuming dead foods began taking a noticeable toll in “old age.” Today, our industrialized lifestyles have led to a host of maladies that did not exist in pre-industrial cultures, such as obesity (a coveted sign of wealth in many pre-industrial cultures), Alzheimer’s, and the epidemics of diabetes, artery disease, and cancer. All are directly traced to what we put in our bodies, with the genetic component of those diseases being very minor.

But let’s go back again to the beginnings of the Domestication Revolution and the transition from being hunter-gatherers, and I’ll begin to cover it in the upcoming posts.

I’ll get to the latest posts that have been made to this thread this weekend, but for now it is off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st September 2012, 05:04
Hi:

I did not want to go there, but this issue looks like it won’t easily die. I really don’t like analyzing the work of people who don’t understand, because almost nobody does. I would rather try to hit the notes that need to get hit. Mike Adams’s fear of free energy article is definitely a newbie effort:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=544282&viewfull=1#post544282

He does not understand the issues very well, but that is expected with newbies. It is a big issue, and easy to get lost.

Anybody who knows much about this field knows that free energy and anti-gravity are joined at the hip. Both have been developed and both are suppressed by the same people, as my friend found out long ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

So, with FE, cars quickly become obsolete, as do roads. Thinking that an outcome of FE is paving over the entire planet for our cars is an example of not thinking the issue through and not understanding the situation in the first place. We already have cars that drive themselves. Those who fear a sky filled with flying vehicles, crashing into each other, are projecting their fears and lack of understanding. Transportation will become a lot easier and safer and will have no environmental impact. It won’t become more hazardous, and we won’t pave over the planet for more cars or “stuff.” Urbanized civilization would quickly become obsolete, and living off-world and in all sorts of places considered “impossible” today becomes feasible with FE and related technologies. The technical issues are easy to overcome, and even the political-social ones.

Adams is obviously unaware of industrialized world demographics and key global trends. When women were liberated by rising standards of living in the industrial world, and having large families was no longer the peasant’s route to wealth, birthrates went down:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic-economic_paradox

Given an education and options other than being a baby machine, virtually no woman wants to spend her life giving birth to endless babies and caring for them. Pregnancies and childbirth take a lot out of a woman, and that life of drudgery is only an “attractive” option for an ignorant and repressed population. In my lifetime, births per woman have dropped globally from nearly five to a little over two:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Parameter_characteristics

and it is the poor who are having large families today, not the well off.

The only way that we will see another population boom is if women go back to being barefoot, illiterate, baby machines. The advent of FE would see a skyrocketing standard of living for all peoples, so putting all women back in the kitchen, pregnant and illiterate, sure seems like a highly unlikely outcome to me. Of course, those patriarchal, sky-god religions always like big families to fill up the pews and coffers, so church-going women have more children than those that don’t:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic-economic_paradox#Religion

but organized religions would end, too, because they are all based on scarcity and fear:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

especially those religions have their roots in agrarian and pastoral economies.

I am aiming far higher than those newbie understandings that Adams has displayed, or the kindergarten stuff in Thrive.

I am not trying to awaken the masses with talk. They have never been awakened by talk. They only awaken when they can experience a new reality, just like Machiavelli said:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

Asking them to wake up before they have the means to wake up may be what some people are trying, but I found out long ago what a loser that was, and I have no interest in it. The reactions to FE of over 99.9% of the population that hears about FE are dismissals in Levels 1, 2, or 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

or the “helpful” level 4 (well over 99% end up in those early levels), or the inexperienced/delusional Levels 5 to 11. Almost nobody gets to Level 12, but they disappear into one of the lower levels and usually stay there, sometimes bouncing between the lower levels if they keep thinking about it.

After being on this path for most of my life, I believe that Machiavelli was right, particularly where FE and abundance are concerned, which would be the biggest seismic shift in the human journey. Brian O and I learned that one the hard way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

I am looking for needles in haystacks, not a way to wake up the masses with talk and proselytizing. That is the old way.

Hi Enishi:

That old Indian that a pal channeled took a journey from the northern plains (what became Sioux country) to the Hopis about three thousand years ago, as a spiritual quest. The Hopis were the spiritual masters of that part of the world. That old Indian also said that the Indians had gone through a long period of spiritual decline when the Europeans invaded, which is partly why Europe was able to invade. But it looks like the Hopis kept enough of their spiritual act together to where they indeed had probably the most inspiring story of all the native tribes, as far as how they survived the invasion.

Hi Wynderer:

My approach is not Godzilla-centric, although he stepped on me and I gave him some interesting days in the office. I acknowledge him, but do not focus on him. He is really a small part of the problem, and conspiracism is big at Avalon, but it is a disease, IMO:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

The coming posts will be back on the human journey.

Thanks,

Wade

Wade Frazier
1st September 2012, 15:27
Hi:

Back to the human journey. In food chains, the amount of energy converted to flesh at each stage is around 10%. So, in a food chain that has five levels (let’s say a marine ecosystem that has photosynthesizers (plankton), grazers, small fish that eat the grazers, larger fish eat them, and then the largest predator in the ecosystem eats them), the apex predator gets 0.01% of the energy provided by the plants, but plants only convert about 1% of the sunlight into energy, so the apex predator is getting 0.0001% of the ecosystem’s available energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophic_levels

With that energy efficiency, the apex predator must have a large area to patrol to get its energy. Territorialism is largely an energy game, whereby an animal protects its energy supply by fighting off competitors, usually other members of its species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territory_(animal)

The higher on the food chain, the more likely that an animal will be territorial, and since birds and mammals dominate the land-based ecosystems, they are the ones that engage in most territorial behavior. The political boundaries on maps today is merely ape territorialism writ large. The elites are the apex predators of those polities, and reaping the energy of its human-dominated food chain is its primary predilection.

In hunter-gatherer societies of 30K years ago in Europe, it took around 10 square kilometers (4 square miles) to feed a family, or about one square mile per person. A pure hunter instead of a gatherer society needs ten times the land, as it moves up the food chain. When the use of agricultural animals and farming developed during the Bronze Age, it took about 1% of the land to feed a family that hunter-gathers needed, so the energy efficiency, as far as human consumption went, rose by 100 times or 10,000%. A medieval farmer needed only 10% of the land that a Bronze Age farmer needed, for another 1,000% improvement in energy efficiency. In the 19th century, an Asian rice farmer was another 500% more efficient than the medieval farmer. Today’s Japanese rice farmer is another 50% more efficient than that 19th century farmer, and is ten thousand times as efficient at wrenching energy from the land as those Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherers (see Lunine’s Earth, p. 299). Far more than any other factor, that dynamic has defined the human journey.

That Japanese society is not only getting ten thousand times the energy from a piece of land as hunter-gatherers did, but they are also getting a huge boost from the energy supplied by fossil fuels. Because Japan is no longer able to plunder its neighbors for its energy, such as when Japan invaded Manchuria, it uses its energy about 50% more efficiently than the USA does for generating a dollar of GNP, as you can see in the chart attached to this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=546922&viewfull=1#post546922

Americans are the champions of Earthly energy consumption, consuming about eighty times the energy that fuels their bodies. The energy surplus is what all civilizations have always ridden on. As you can see from the above, gains in energy efficiency kept declining as humans more intensively worked the land to extract energy. As you can see in this table:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

the gains in energy efficiency for each stage of the human existence kept shrinking. It is just another representation of that trend. It is currently estimated that about 40% of the planet’s primary production, meaning the solar energy captured by photosynthesis, has been commandeered by humanity, as it dominates virtually all ecosystems. About 90% of the world’s large, predatory fish at the apex of the marine ecosystems have been killed off by human fishing operations since 1950 (see Homer-Dixon’s The Upside of Down, p. 145). After the apex predators were all killed off (many sharks are currently endangered species), humanity has been working its way down the food chain. Like Peak Oil, humanity is quickly burning through Earth’s marine ecosystems. These are the kinds of dynamics of why we have been living during Earth’s sixth mass extinction event for the past 50K years or so:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

But let’s go back to the beginning of civilization. As I have stated, all the great apes except for bonobos are male-dominated, and they use violence to maintain their dominance, as well as Machiavellian plotting:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=537104&highlight=bonobos#post537104

What I call the Golden Age of the Hunter-Gatherer, when humans invaded “virgin” ecosystems and quickly killed off all the easy meat, was far from idyllic on the human relations front. As the blitzkrieg advanced across the frontiers, territoriality would not have been an issue, as a band only had to move on to the next valley and plunder it. Because the only possessions that humans had were those that they could carry, material greed was not yet as concept. But the relations between the sexes were anything but idyllic. The clues that we have partly come from modern-day hunter-gatherers. In the Inuit culture, stealing women from neighboring bands was so prevalent that killing a strange male before even asking questions was normal (see Wrangham’s Catching Fire, pp. 168-169). The primary reason was not for the sex the women could provide, but food preparation and domestic services. A man could not hunt and run a household. Sex was a “bonus.”

In New Guinea, stealing women from neighboring tribes, also for the domestic duties they could perform, was normal. This dynamic is so widespread among “primitive” peoples that researchers have stated that in all small-scale societies, all men have a “strictly economic need for a wife and a hearth” (See Wrangham’s Catching Fire, p. 168). The social organization was not much different than chimpanzees, as far as male violence dominating the social organization. Only when relative economic abundance came to chimpanzees did the bonobo appear and end male dominance:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=537104&viewfull=1#post537104

Similarly, the village stage of primitive agriculture is when women were most equal to men, at least until the industrial age. As I have written, people have tended to idealize those times. They were not so wonderful, for many reasons. When primitive villages appeared at the beginning of the Domestication Revolution, humans shrank by several inches from their hunter-gatherer ancestors. While more people could exist on a square mile (early agriculture was around ten times as energy efficient as hunting-gathering), they also did not get as much energy per person as a hunter-gatherer did, which stunted their growth. Those were Stone Age peoples who had not yet learned to smelt metal. They could not easily deforest the land. Their agricultural methods were girdling trees to kill them, planting crops on what was formerly a shaded forest floor, and in not too many years their efforts depleted the soils of their nutrients, as well as burned up all the firewood, so the village had to move. Not much of the food procured in primitive agriculture could be eaten raw, but had to be cooked. Also, the village had to be near a body of water. That body of water also often provided a transportation lane that was usually around 100 times as energy efficient as carrying goods.

The primitive village was built around a briefly deforested patch near water, where the firewood and soil fertility was depleted in about a generation, so the people had to move to a virgin patch of woods, near water, where the cycle could be repeated. In essence, the village thoroughly depleted its energy supply, and when it was used up they moved where they could plunder more. It was the same dynamic that the hunter-gatherers did with the megafauna, just at a more sophisticated level of technology and social organization.

Territorialism reared its head with a vengeance in the waning days of the hunter-gather era, as all the easy meat was rendered extinct, and hunters killed each other with regularity as their territories shrank, both from the growth in the human population and the lack of meat. Turning to domesticating plants and animals is now thought to have been brought on by population pressures, and it is now thought that domestication did not take long, in as little as a human lifetime for rapidly reproducing life forms. The fox was domesticated in 35 generations (with pronounced effects seen by 10) by modern scientists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

The likely scenario for learning how to smelt metal was some perceptive people noticed that some hearth stones melted and produced metal. Copper, gold, and silver are all in the same elemental family, and because of their non-reactive properties could be found in nuggets. Copper was the first “industrial” metal worked (other than iron meteorites that people might find), and the melting point of copper is within the temperatures that can be found in a hearth. Other metals like tin also had relatively low melting points, and the Bronze Age was born in the Fertile Crescent a little more than five thousand years ago, which was after thousands of years of primarily village life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age#Near_East

Smelting metals became a huge advantage for humans. Before metals were smelted, humans used digging sticks for planting crops. About the same time that metals were smelted, the ox was domesticated, and plow agriculture then began:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plow#Ard

Plowing had huge short-term energy advantages. It broke up the soil so that crop roots could easily grow, and plowing would mix the soil so that the deeper, as-yet undepleted soil, could be brought to the surface, and plowing also killed “weeds” that grew, making room for plants to grow that humans could digest. The problem with plow agriculture is that it ultimately wrecks the soils. Those exposed soils eventually wash and blow away to the oceans. About a quarter of the world’s topsoil has been lost since World War II, in a prodigious orgy of deforestation and plow agriculture, as humans have shoved aside all other species in their desperation and greed. Milpa farming has been sustainable for thousands of years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milpa

engaged in by Stone Age peoples, in swidden style, so some primitive agriculture has been sustainable, but only when it was practiced at the Stone Age level. Pasturing animals on fallow ground, where their droppings could fertilize the soil, is an ancient practice. But in the end, Bronze Age deforestation and plow agriculture, as well as grazing animals, turned the forest that once ran from Morocco to Afghanistan into semi-desert in many places, as well as real deserts, in a process known today as desertification. Where deforestation was followed by herders, the herds ate any attempts for the forests to regenerate. The entire Mediterranean region was eventually deforested, long after the Fertile Crescent and vicinity was deforested:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543474&viewfull=1#post543474

The Bronze Age led to Western civilization, built on the increasing energy yields afforded by deforestation and plow agriculture. When civilization appeared, women’s status universally declined. They gave birth to the work force, so they were a prized asset in those increasingly patriarchal times. Stone Age peoples could also form civilization as they did in the New World, but they did not have nearly the energy efficiency as those Bronze Age civilizations had. But whether it was the Fertile Crescent, Mesoamerica, or China, the pattern was the same. The people who became elites saw their opportunity to take advantage of the situation (villages also had elites, but it was relative - the energy-concentration opportunities for self-aggrandizement was not very achievable under the village economy), and they commandeered the situation to form social hierarchies with them at the top. Anthropologists call those times the transition from egalitarianism to kleptocracy.

The universal dynamic is that men fought their way to the top, with organized violence and Machiavellian plotting, and then established religions that portrayed themselves as the representatives of divinity on Earth, and they then commandeered the labor to build monumental architecture that aggrandized themselves. The monumental architecture invariably had a religious theme, to further inspire the workers. Those early potentates all had harems. Evolutionary anthropologists see that becoming a member of a harem was usually a “win” for the women, as they were guaranteed to produce elite offspring. The most beautiful women became concubines. The big losers in that situation were the non-elite men, whose breeding opportunities were thus limited. A prime directive of life on Earth is reproducing, so large numbers of men became reproductively frustrated. Even village life had concubines at times, but it became a sacred institution with the rise of civilization. Anthropologists cannot find an exception to that dynamic in world history.

You can see echoes of that past today in how women are attracted to powerful, rich men. The high tech revolution has been one long episode of The Revenge of the Nerds, as attractive women chase after rich nerds. Where I live and work, I constantly see babes with their strollers in the elite malls and elsewhere, with their “I bagged a Microsoft millionaire” look to them. LA had a similar dynamic, as the world’s most beautiful women flocked there.

As I think that the above narrative is making clear, the early days of human civilization were all about energy, as it has always been. The entire era of human civilization was made possible by an interglacial interval, where more energy was made available.

There are many dynamics of early civilization that deserve to be explored, and I will do so in coming posts. I will be out of town next week, but I might make another post or two this weekend. We’ll see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

mosquito
2nd September 2012, 03:42
Hi everyone, I've started a thread on abundance, which is inextricably woven in with what's being discussed here. I'd like to invite you all to contribute, should you so wish !!!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49327---a-b-u-n-d-a-n-c-e--&p=547759#post547759

mosquito
2nd September 2012, 04:13
Thanks Wade for the last post - these are all issues which so many people seem not to take into account when thinking about "heaven on Earth". The societal dynamic and our relationship with our environment are clearly very complex, our future evolution won't be without growing pains !

Can we evolve to the point where there is no pecking order, no apex group or race ?

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2012, 00:18
Hi:

I’ll try to make one more human journey post before I am gone for about a week, but briefly, I am surprised that this made the news in the USA:

http://news.yahoo.com/tutu-bush-blair-face-trial-hague-094855285.html

Go Desmond. This is an area of special interest of mine…

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#attacking

Not that much will happen. Imperial overlords never have to worry about things like war crimes trials. Those are for losers. What is funny is Blair’s “bizarre” response. The “We are invading to overthrow a dictator” rationale was only invoked when all the “he has WMD” fantasies were disproven, as if any sane person believed them in the first place. The crime for which the Nazis answered at Nuremburg is the same one that Bush and Blair committed: waging a war of aggression. All the evil of what happened and what is still happening is the exact “supreme international crime” that the Chief of Counsel for the United States at Nuremberg said that the Nazis committed, the acts of aggression that started the war in the first place. Uncle Noam has been talking about this for a long time:

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/201105--.htm

http://www.walkingbutterfly.com/2012/02/25/chomsky-if-the-nuremberg-laws-were-applied-to-u-s-presidents/

http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20080123.htm

Best,

Wade

Melinda
3rd September 2012, 02:08
http://news.yahoo.com/tutu-bush-blair-face-trial-hague-094855285.html

Go Desmond.

I agree.

Maybe nothing will happen. But the more people call out Bush and Blair (and the agendas they represent) the better, as far as I'm concerned.

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2012, 04:30
Hi:

Yes, the more who have the courage to state the obvious, the likelier that we will turn the corner. Bush and Blair were merely agents of the imperial agenda, as usual. You have to sell your soul to play at those levels, and those boys certainly did. Their immediate afterlives will not be pretty. Bush was our Caligula, but every US president is an emperor, but nobody in the empire likes to admit it. Those who suffer from our actions are not so willingly blind. They can see that tattoo on the emperor’s backside that few imperial citizens are willing to admit that they can see. A five-year-old can easily see through the imperial rhetoric:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

It takes the hard work of an adult mind to cultivate the level of willing stupidity that turns evil deeds into tales of glory, but that has been a specialty in the USA for many years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more

but I suspect that that dynamic is as old as humanity, in one way or another. That is how we can rack up huge karmic debts! :)

I’ll try to make that last post before I go in the morning, but it is off to bed now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
3rd September 2012, 13:28
Hi:

I overslept, and will not get that post done. But here is a little summary of the subjects that I plan to cover.

Why were cities formed? What sustained them, and why did they collapse? The history of civilization is how they rose and fell. They always ultimately collapsed because they ran out of energy.

Ideology and indoctrination came with early civilization, and literalism was ascendant. The elites became experts at getting people to replace reality with symbols, and manipulating the symbols was how the elites controlled the masses’ minds. Because food was always scarce in pre-industrial societies, those who played along get fed. The consequences of being “right” or “wrong,” especially of thinking “right” or “wrong” could be severe.

In those early days of civilization, the following innovations appeared:

1. The wheel

2. Writing

3. Money

4. Mathematics

5. Professions – priests, soldiers, craftsmen – and, yes, prostitutes

6. Royalty

7. Slavery

8. Advanced agriculture, including plows and irrigation

9. Warring states with professional armies

10. Large-scale genocide

11. Infrastructure such as roads, sewers, water mains

12. Stone and other “permanent” architecture, including monuments to the elites

13. Cultural identity, education and indoctrination

14. Institutions

15. Government taxation and planning

16. Large devices such as boats

17. Manufacturing operations

18. Mining operations

19. Advanced metallurgy

20. Plantation operations

21. Forestry operations

A lot of what civilizations invented were just bigger versions of what existed in village life, but a great deal was new, made necessary by urban life, and much of it made urban life possible. Life was far different in cities than in the hinterland. There was much that was attractive about cities, which brought in people from the countryside, so there was the “attractive” aspect that brought people in. There was also the exploitative aspect, where cities were big energy-concentration devices that elites could more easily skim the economic surplus from. The elites were largely parasites that exploited the situation. There is plenty about how civilizations operate that are due to our herd animal past, how humans have adapted to energy scarcity, how a division of labor can create new kinds of skills and efficiencies, and how humans excel at playing the victim.

When I get back next week, I will begin to explore those topics.

Best,

Wade

Latti
4th September 2012, 19:55
Wade, thanks for your great history lesson. I visited your thread due to my interest in over-unity energy systems, but haven't researched your background and was pleasantly surprised by your extensive post.
Best regards,
Latti

Ixopoborn
5th September 2012, 21:20
Dear Wade - I post only occasionally on this thread but I read it all avidly, at latest every few days. Its not that I don't want to post in between times - quiet the contrary in fact. I don't post too much out of respect to you, your intellect and your message.

To other more casual readers of this thread I would say do come back and dip into this thread from time to time. My experience teaches me to entreat others to be patient and return to this thread from time to time - it takes a few times at least for Wade's remarks not to seem obtuse and irrelevant.

Thanks Wade for all you are doing here - my only concern is that I am sure my credentials don't fully qualify me to fully enmesh with you: I fear I might not have the right mystical qualifications - I don't meditate every day or anything close to that. I am spiritually minded but have had not had any mystical experiences worth expressing worst luck. My only claim to qualification in that regard is my wife is a 24 carrot spooky girl and somehow she tolerates me so ....???

My resounding message to all new readers of this thread is please please come back and read again.

Who knows, like me, you may find your efforts richly rewarded!

WhiteFeather
5th September 2012, 23:51
Quote on Bush and Blair "Their immediate afterlives will not be pretty."
I often pondered how JP MORGAN'S immediate afterlife was doing after he shunned Nikola Tesla and The Future For Pure Energy Possibilities for this great planet?

Fred Steeves
6th September 2012, 13:33
I'd say this old WW2 propaganda piece says as much about America now, as it did then. Except presently our dear uncle is faced with multiple targets in "defending" the security of the homeland.

18106

War bonds anyone?

Wade Frazier
7th September 2012, 15:18
Hi:

Thanks for the posts, and when I see them, I know that I could spend days responding, but briefly:

Hi Latti:

Thanks for reading. As is probably obvious, I am taking a different approach to “over-unity” and other FE ideas. It is a comprehensivist approach, and we will see how it goes.

Hi Ixopoborn:

Thanks for being here. Yes, my posts may seem to wander at times, but there is a method to my madness. This comprehensivist stuff covers a lot of territory, and not all in a linear fashion, so it can seem to jump around or fly off into tangents. A mystical perspective is not all that important, really. It is important to realize the limits of White Science and materialism. And it is what is in your heart, not your head, that will make you mesh with my work or not.

The greatest physicists were a bunch of mystics, to one degree or another:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

and they had flashes of insight to thank for their breakthroughs, not cold logic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash

A materialist perspective tends to justify a host of evils in the name of “progress.” The mystics can tend to float off into irrelevant tangents. It was very sobering to see all the New Age hucksterism out there when I was young:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

All the same, incorporating the mystical into the practical is a key. Take this recent article by Adam, for instance:

http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?36-Adam-Trombly-Thrive-Movie-Starchild-Program-Zero-Point-Energy&p=5638&viewfull=1#post5638

The article above it by my friend Jeane is worth reading:

http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?36-Adam-Trombly-Thrive-Movie-Starchild-Program-Zero-Point-Energy&p=2865&viewfull=1#post2865

and seques into White Feather’s comment. J.P Morgan was into investigating his past lives, late in his life. He must have had some idea of what was in store for him. His immediate afterlife could not have been pretty. The same goes for the other robber barons. We all balance the karma eventually, and souls like Morgan’s will be working it off for a long time. For all the people who wrecked our efforts with their evil deeds:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

they will be working it off for a long time. If what I have been told, that I helped melt down Atlantis and spent a hundred lives or so in penance, has any validity, I guess that I can relate to working it off, and maybe that is what this lifetime of mine is all about: getting it right this time. We’ll see.

Hi Fred:

At first, I wondered if it was genuine, although it would not surprise me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping

but I have never seen one like that before. I did a little search, and found that it was kind of tame compared to some others:

http://www.authentichistory.com/1939-1945/2-homefront/3-anti-jap/index.html

I read about this picture in Stannard's American Holocaust, but just now saw it for the first time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LIFE_May_1944_Jap_Skull.jpg

which was tame compared to other uses of Japanese corpses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_mutilation_of_Japanese_war_dead

My grandfather saw that practice when he was in the Pacific "Theater."

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#skulls

Ah, those Golden Years of WWII! :)

Back to the human journey posts this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Fred Steeves
7th September 2012, 15:49
Hi:
Hi Fred:

At first, I wondered if it was genuine, although it would not surprise me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping

but I have never seen one like that before. I did a little search, and found that it was kind of tame compared to some others:

http://www.authentichistory.com/1939-1945/2-homefront/3-anti-jap/index.html

Ah, those Golden Years of WWII! :)


Yes it is Wade. It was one of the one of the ra ra posters that stuck out to me in the American Museum of Science/Energy near the Oak Ridge nuclear facility a couple of weeks ago. Interestingly, they display American propaganda and German Propaganda not too far apart. I couldn't help but wonder what % of people would see it as an atrocity, if dear old Uncle Sam were depicted as sporting a swastika, and proclaiming after destroying England: "Yank, You're Next!"

The German and American propaganda was so much alike it was striking, but then not many people know that Joseph Goebbels learned his trade from the American Edward Bernays do they?

Glad to see you back.
Fred

P.S. You're right, the poster was quite tame in comparison to what you found.

Chris Gilbert
8th September 2012, 01:01
The universal dynamic is that men fought their way to the top, with organized violence and Machiavellian plotting, and then established religions that portrayed themselves as the representatives of divinity on Earth, and they then commandeered the labor to build monumental architecture that aggrandized themselves. The monumental architecture invariably had a religious theme, to further inspire the workers. Those early potentates all had harems. Evolutionary anthropologists see that becoming a member of a harem was usually a “win” for the women, as they were guaranteed to produce elite offspring. The most beautiful women became concubines. The big losers in that situation were the non-elite men, whose breeding opportunities were thus limited. A prime directive of life on Earth is reproducing, so large numbers of men became reproductively frustrated. Even village life had concubines at times, but it became a sacred institution with the rise of civilization. Anthropologists cannot find an exception to that dynamic in world history.

You can see echoes of that past today in how women are attracted to powerful, rich men. The high tech revolution has been one long episode of The Revenge of the Nerds, as attractive women chase after rich nerds. Where I live and work, I constantly see babes with their strollers in the elite malls and elsewhere, with their “I bagged a Microsoft millionaire” look to them. LA had a similar dynamic, as the world’s most beautiful women flocked there.

Non-elite men suffering under the oppressive systems that have prevailed throughout most of civilization is something that gets ignored at times. Male domination is real, but it's a small group of men that dominate both men AND women. Even in industrialized societies mate selection based on scarcity consciousness is still very much in evidence. PUA (pick up artist) material for instance places a strong focus on teaching men who don't have naturally "alpha" personalities to mimic alpha behavior via body language and verbal communication techniques, some of which are mild while others basically entail creating the image of being an "alpha jerk". The basic trick is to work to create the image of having higher social status while being simultaneously hard to get, thus setting off internal scarcity-based responses in women.

My hope is that in a society of abundance and radiant health such behavior on the part of both sexes will become a thing of the past. However, I worry that part of it is indeed wired into our genetics, and some form of genetic alteration will be necessary to complete the shift.

Wade Frazier
8th September 2012, 02:12
Hi:

This will be a slight detour from the human journey posts. Last year, we had Thrive, which turned out to be a major disappointment for many, including most of the people interviewed on Thrive.

http://projectearth.com/founder-essays/view/46-humanity-and-sanity

That does not mean that sites like this one have any merit:

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/

I can only stand to read that one in small snatches, because it frequently makes uninformed and irrational statements that parade as logical, as with almost all “skeptics” and debunkers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

Now, a year later, here comes Greer’s documentary:

http://www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/

I have higher hopes for it. I had heard that it was in the making years ago, and a pal sent me this recent article from Greer on Armstrong’s lunar experiences:

http://drgreersblog.disclosureproject.org/?cat=1

I have seen many variations on this theme for many years, which can also play into moon hoax scenarios. I have been in and out of the milieu since the 1980s, but I am doing something else these days. What has been painful to watch over the years is to see people who should be joining their efforts, if they want to have a prayer of getting over the FE finish line, at odds with each other. I have seen Mitchell fall out with Greer, Adam and Greer are not close buddies, Bearden has had shifting alliances over the years, and people close to me don’t know about Bearden’s motivation. Adam and the inventor who had his lab confiscated by the Feds had their falling out (the inventor’s ire seems highly misplaced, which is normal for FE-inventor types).

I have regularly seen Dennis attacked, almost always dishonestly, by members of the FE community. Brian O felt betrayed by the very people that he recruited into his organizations (Dennis knows that one, in spades, I am sorry to say). Brian wrote the forward to one of Greer’s books:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#_edn24

and Greer would write blurbs for Brian’s. But Greer, Dennis, Brian, and Adam all survived murder attempts for their work, sometimes multiple attempts and other outrages. The “skeptics” scoff, but they are either dishonest or not familiar with the rudiments of logic and fact-finding. The UFO and FE cover-ups are joined at the hip, as all of the big name FE players eventually discovered. All the while, the masses either snore or have all manner of unproductive reaction (those Levels 1-11 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1). It can really challenge a person’s sanity to get involved in this milieu, not the least of which is when Godzilla finally has to lift a claw to restore “order.”

While I wish Greer the best, I have been finished with Level 10 efforts since my days with NEM:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

and am trying to do something different. Maybe Greer’s approach has a prayer, but only people risking their lives like he does have any business even trying. I have already witnessed too much carnage in that milieu:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

and don’t want to see any more, or lead anybody anywhere close to where they are risking their lives. If FE makes its appearance, joined at the hip with the ET situation, there will be a greater need for comprehensive thinkers than ever, which is what I am trying to help along in my own way.

Best,

Wade

P.S. Hi Enishi:

I saw your post as I was readying this one for publication. Yes, the dynamic that you cite is part and parcel of humanity’s many dysfunctional reactions to scarcity. Yes, part of that likely is baked into our DNA to some degree. Big subject. One of the recent theories is that humans domesticated themselves during Domestication Revolution, and that making humans more docile (to herd them more easily) was one of the genetic outcomes of our journey. That dynamic can find parallels in Michael’s soul age concept:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

The idea that humans were genetically crippled by ET and/or inter-dimensional interventions is a big one in New Age and related circles. I don’t know what the answer is, but I keep my mind open about it. These two future Earths that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

had genetic engineering in their bag of tricks – the difference was if it was implemented lovingly or not. I’ll buy the idea that a little genetic reordering will come with the transition, but only a loving reordering is what should be done, not one performed under the auspices of greed-based capitalism. Much of that reordering could well be “natural,” as the constant hum of fear in our current, scarcity-based world disappears. Again, big subject, and thanks for bringing it up. I was about to cover that domestication of our genes theory in my posts, so your post is timely. As people like Greer have discovered, Godzilla has been playing diabolical genetic games for many years, engineering the perfect soldier and other nightmares.

Elly
8th September 2012, 19:16
With all this talk about evolution, I discussed it with someone with a biological and health scientific background. He shared very interesting thoughts bringing the conversation back to your mystical posts.

He said that, yes, evolution is an observable reality. Nevertheless, there is intelligent design to life as we know it. Evolution and intelligent design co-exist. For example, DNA is the code that codes for each living being. You can't have a human, a turtle, a tree without it. The cells follow that blueprint. So there is intelligent design behind the coding of the blueprint. Who designed it?

Wade Frazier
8th September 2012, 21:16
Hi:

Back to the human journey. I’ll get to many of the attributes of what we call civilization soon, but in this post I want to broach the subject that comes up often when studying them: their collapses. The world is filled with evidence of civilizations that once existed but have since disappeared. Some that collapsed were well-known to their successors. The Aztec emperor, for instance, made an annual pilgrimage to the ruins of Teotihuacan as a reminder of how ephemeral civilizations could be. When the Spaniards came a conquering, that evidence of that lost civilization was there for all to see. The classic Mayan phase collapsed over a thousand years ago. Its lowland cities were lost to the jungle, and deciphering the Mayan script was one of the greatest archeological triumphs of modern times. The Indus Valley Civilization was the world’s largest ancient civilization, but its ruins were not discovered until less than a hundred years ago, and its script remains undeciphered:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_script

The water and sewage systems of the Indus civilization were actually more advanced than what is in the same region today, several thousand years later:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilization#Cities

The Indus civilization appears to be about the least stratified ancient civilization,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehrgarh#Human_Figurines

although that is relative. That civilization collapsed nearly 4,000 years ago, apparently from an epic drought as the monsoon pattern changed, and it appears that the remnants of that civilization migrated onto the Indian Subcontinent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilization#The_collapse_and_Late_Harappan

The same drought likely collapsed Egypt’s Old Kingdom, the Mesopotamian and Akkadian empires, as well as causing havoc in China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4.2_kiloyear_event

Basically, no water means no food, or what can be called human-digestible caloric energy. All pre-industrial civilizations were vulnerable to the weather, where a bad harvest meant starvation. The means did not exist to move food from regions where it was to where it wasn’t, particularly across political boundaries, and the surplus was never very large anywhere. Early trade was usually in elite prestige goods or useful tool-making substances, not food. The earliest trade that can be detected was in obsidian and flint in the Stone Age, and lapis lazuli in the Bronze Age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade#Ancient_history

Copper, gold, and silver were the first worked metals, which could all be found in nuggets, as they are all in the same elemental family and comparatively non-reactive.

Sumer was the site of a classic environmental problem. They were about the first culture to practice crop irrigation, and the poorly-drained soils in an arid climate led to salination. They shifted their crop from wheat to the more salt-resistant barley, but the southern lands of Mesopotamia were largely abandoned, and there was a 60% population decline in the region over several hundred years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer#Decline

which contributed to their conquest by their neighboring Akkadians.

The earliest city in the region was first settled more than 7,000 years ago, on the Persian Gulf. Upland deforestation and agriculture, and its resultant siltation, along with the increasing salination, turned that earliest city into an abandoned wasteland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

Until relatively recently, the impact of pre-industrial peoples on the environment was considered to be minor at most. This view has been changing, on several fronts. The overkill hypothesis of the megafaunal extinctions is less than fifty years old, and while it has been fiercely attacked from many quarters, it is now generally accepted:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

In Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plows,_Plagues_and_Petroleum

he makes the case that humans have been altering the atmospheric gases, making Earth warmer than it would otherwise be, beginning about 8,000 years ago, as carbon dioxide levels increased. This likely relates to the massive deforestation which began with burning the land in the Stone Age, to make way for primitive agriculture. Methane levels began rising 5,000 years ago, and Ruddiman argues that farming activities were responsible. Ruddiman even traces the Little Ice Age to the carbon sequestration that coincided with mass deaths in the Old World in the 1300s plagues, and in the New World in the 1500s as the Europeans wiped out the Native Americans. These are new claims and the debate has been and will certainly continue to be fierce, but there is increasing evidence that humans have impacted not only the ecosystems but the climate with their activities, long before the industrial era. Ruddiman is far from alone:

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/03/29/Study-Ancient-peoples-had-climate-impact/UPI-85411301441367/

Industrialization is only accelerating ancient trends. Scientists now suspect that humans reduced the African rainforest three thousand years ago by deforestation and agriculture:

http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0209-hance_congo_savannah.html

There is even evidence that when humans began wiping out the megafauna in the Northern Hemisphere, beginning around 15,000 years ago, that they put the dynamics for global warming into motion:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100630162353.htm

The interaction of humans and the environment, including the climate, is increasingly being studied.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110113082627.htm

In a 1979 study, it was estimated that 50% of the rainfall in the Amazon rainforest was recycled from plant respiration (see p. 17 of this presentation):

http://amazonpire.org/documents/GroupEcohydrology_000.pdf

Others have estimated 35% of the Amazon rainforest’s rain was recycled by the rainforest:

http://www.mit.edu/~eltahir/Publications_files/1994%20Eltahir%20Bras%20precip%20recy%20Amazon%20basin%20QJRMetSoc.pdf

It is now known that twice as much rain falls when the air passes over dense vegetation:

http://www.celsias.com/article/tropical-forests-recycle-rainfall/

as sparse vegetation, and deforesting the Amazon could decrease the rainfall by 20%, which most of South America’s GDP relies on:

http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0905-effects-of-deforestation-on-rainfall.html

It is increasingly being considered that the climate change that collapsed civilizations was in some measure brought on by the civilizations themselves, as they engaged in deforestation, plow agriculture, and ungulate grazers. These climate dynamics have been clearly seen in the historical era, as the Spanish turned forest and fertile farmland into semi-desert in less than a century, in a valley just north of the Valley of Mexico:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#_edn83

and Europeans did the same thing to the first parts of Australia that they invaded.

Civilizations and empires rose and fell in the Fertile Crescent and vicinity for several thousand years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGdFnlzBdo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpD01pXsTAE&feature=related

This issue of environmental change, especially human-influenced, and civilization collapses has been the subject of fierce debate recently, with Joseph Tainter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Tainter

and Jared Diamond:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed

representing two schools of thought on the issue. Here is Tainter’s response to Diamond’s Collapse:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52922148/ALA-Tainter-Overshoot-and-Collapse

Heinberg has chimed in with his Peak Oil arguments:

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/4182

I discovered Tainter through Heinberg’s work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

and I have been studying these issues, on and off, for about the past decade. I have seen some really hack efforts to discredit Diamond’s arguments (Questioning Collapse, for instance, was compiled in response to Diamond’s Collapse, but was so poor in places that it verged on being libelous (such as claiming that Diamond denied that the Australian aborigines had anything to do with the megafauna extinctions, where Diamond made his position clear in Guns, Germs, and Steel that the aborigines were the prime suspects in the Australian megafauna extinctions)), but I think that a lot is getting lost in all the Sturm und Drang around the issue.

I have not gotten to the Western Roman collapse yet. The city of Rome declined from at least a million people at its height around the time of Jesus, to a few percent of that for about a millennium, after its precipitous collapse in little more than a hundred years:

http://davidgalbraith.org/trivia/graph-of-the-population-of-rome-through-history/2189/

for one of the most dramatic urban collapses in world history. The Roman Republic and Empire ran through the Mediterranean and Western Europe like an unending buzz saw, deforesting everything in sight, clear up to England:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_during_the_Roman_period

What collapse theorists have in common is that they generally acknowledge that the increasing expansion of the Roman Empire, to widen the areas of energy-sourced plunder, overextended itself, as it kept reaching out to commandeer the region’s resources, is what led to its collapse. In a word, Rome ran out of energy. When complex societies collapsed, it was usually a relief to the peasants whose backs those civilizations were built on. Roman taxation, for instance, became increasingly ruthless as the peasants were squeezed. It was nothing short of slavery to assign land to peasants, with a taxation quota to meet, under penalty of death and other niceties if the tax was not forthcoming. Homer-Dixon’s The Upside of Down explores some of that territory.

What I hope begins to become clear is that the collapse of civilizations and Earth’s mass extinction events have plenty in common. They were all energy crises.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=527620&viewfull=1#post527620

I will make the connection clearer in my upcoming essay. To separate the energy crisis brought on by deforestation and environmental deterioration from economic collapse is to make misleading distinctions, IMO. The ability to wrench energy from the environment is what has powered all civilizations for all time. Massive deforestation and plow agriculture are dramatic events that greatly increase the energy yield, but only so much sunlight hits Earth and can be captured by ecosystems. Those energy-extraction activities not only rob the environments (AKA all other life forms) of their energy, but it also disrupts nature’s energy systems and can completely wreck them, turning forests into deserts, as happened all over that part of the world, from Morocco to Afghanistan. It took thousands of years of continual deforestation, agriculture, and grazing herds, so it was usually imperceptible to the inhabitants, but the trends have been clearly determined, especially with the increasing tools of today’s science.

Time for some chores. More later.

Best,

Wade

Dennis Leahy
9th September 2012, 02:19
Brilliant, Wade, just brilliant. I'm lucky to have a front row seat at your lecture.

Dennis

Wade Frazier
9th September 2012, 13:35
Hi Cara:

Your pal’s perspective is unusual in scientific circles. Random changes in DNA are thought to be the engine of evolution.

Hi Dennis:

Thanks. I hope that this becomes a dialogue instead of a lecture. I am learning this stuff, too. I have been at it for a while, and there is a long way to go. One of my primary messages is that ecosystems take a long time to develop. Studying the development of life on Earth (I began this series of posts two months ago):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=518761&viewfull=1#post518761

makes it clear that what we call ecosystems are life-based energy systems. They did not start out being food chains, but when available energy became scarcer, grazing and predation developed, as organisms learned how to eat other. Plants and animals came from the same “root stock,” if you will.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=523407&viewfull=1#post523407

How they get their energy is Job Number One for all life forms. Whether the materialist anarchist framework is accepted, or one that is more cooperative, the life forms in an ecosystem interact and coevolve. When life forms are removed from ecosystems, because a newly appeared, weapon-bearing ape ate them out of existence, let us say, the ecosystems are forced to adapt. That missing life form was part of an energy chain, and the energy chain has to adapt or collapse, and there can be dramatic ecosystem changes where members of the energy chain interact and one ends up missing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophic_cascade

In Homer-Dixon’s The Upside of Down, he discussed the idea of ecosystem resilience, which was pioneered by Crawford Holling. That definition of resilience was framed within a dynamic of adaptive cycles, where resilience, connectedness, and potential are its three dimensions. All cycles are driven by energy, and when ecosystems are disrupted, those that are resilient will use the disruption to find new ways of working, called “novelty” in ecological terms.

As I do, Homer-Dixon makes the connection between ecosystems and economic systems explicit, and the example that he keeps coming back to is Rome. As Rome expanded, its EROI, or Energy Return On Investment, kept declining. It is directly related to the fact that the energy returns from ecosystems continually decline when forests are razed, the soils are plowed, crops are grown, and grazers are imported onto the remnants. There is an initial windfall bounty as the ecosystem is first plundered, but the returns keep diminishing, as more energy has been wrenched out of the ecosystem than is replenished (or energy-furnished nutrients are removed and not replenished – AKA soil exhaustion). That is how forests are turned into deserts.

A la Tainter, the increasing complexity needed to manage the expanding empire was paid for by the coin of energy. Because the means of production - deforestation and agriculture - were a constant (Rome did not invent new energy technologies, but appropriated what existed and took it to new scales), and the energy used was solar-based, the only way that Rome could expand its energy consumption was at the expense of its neighbors, as with virtually all empires. Turning forest into farmland provided a short-term energy subsidy, but the decline inevitably ensues, which meant finding more land and peoples to plunder, but at further distance from Rome and the low-energy transportation lane that the Mediterranean Sea afforded. Transporting goods by waterway is about a hundred times as energy efficient as transporting them overland. That is why all preindustrial cities were situated near navigable bodies of water.

As I have written, complex life had the same dynamic; the great increase in energy generation derived by oxygenic respiration is what made complex life possible:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=523407&viewfull=1#post523407

and the dynamics discovered by Béchamp, Rife, Naessens, and others (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm) were that when complex life can no longer provide the energy and nutrients needed, complex life will collapse into “anarchy” like disrupted ecosystems or economic systems will.

In summary, the collapse of complex life, ecosystems, and civilizations all follow the same basic dynamic, where energy funds the increasing complexity, and running out of energy leads to collapse. This is one of the primary messages of my work. I have yet to see anybody else make this connection, especially in the context of what the potential of FE is. Humanity can unhook from the ecosystem exploitation dynamic that is literally older than humanity, which began about when our distant ancestors learned how to control fire.

When the energy runs out, the organism, ecosystem, or civilization will revert to simpler organization. It is also called “primitive” in many circles, but the level of energy generation/consumption is what really defines it.

All of the above, however, is not the big one, as far as life on Earth goes. The ability of enzymes to increase reaction rates by millions of times is what made life possible in the first place:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=521326&viewfull=1#post521326

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=521838&viewfull=1#post521838

As I have written, pound-for-pound, complex life uses energy 100,000 times faster than the sun produces it:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=506945&viewfull=1#post506945

Life is an incredible energy hog. :)

The human brain is the greatest energy hog in the human body, and we need to work ours to their limits to attain levels of understanding where enough of us can develop comprehensive perspectives and get to Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

That is really the entire point of my work, but it always begins in the heart, as love is the energy of Creation, and creators create with love. People who feel and think like victims are no help in making FE happen, and will wreck such efforts, as they are the weak links. But the victim game is humanity’s oldest, so the habit is very hard to break.

OK, the next post will be back to the development of civilization.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia
9th September 2012, 18:18
Well then,

FE would be quite an unique event in the planet's history. Since obviously our "growth and evolution" is based on the ability to wrench energy out of our environment, with Free Energy we would break out of this cycle (and quite possibly allow other life forms on Earth to do the same).

The implications of such an event are so "BIG" that it is even hard to think about them. I really wonder if this has already happened some place else in our Universe (or Multiverse). With my current understanding, FE would set our development (in all areas) on an exponential curve and we can only glimpse or imagine only the very beginning of that curve. But clearly it would be something never experienced before.

With proper use of Free Energy civilizations will no longer collapse and most likely our bodies would be disease free. Since the current name of the game on Earth is "how can I extract more energy to sustain myself", one has to wonder what would be the new game once energy availability becomes limitless... perhaps something along the lines: "What do You want to create today?"

It really is fascinating to read your posts, and follow the "Energy Scarcity games" until the final levels, when one species gets to choose between self annihilation or changing the game completely to "Energy Abundance".

It's also easier to understand the huge inertia we notice around the idea of Free Energy. It seems that "energy scarcity" is deeply backed in our bones! It's the game being played even by our own body cells.

Fred Steeves
9th September 2012, 19:21
The implications of such an event are so "BIG" that it is even hard to think
about them. I really wonder if this has already happened some place else in our
Universe (or Multiverse).

Just call me on down from the old crazy tree Ilie, but I would suggest it's happened right here on our very own big blue marble, and well more than once.:tape2:


Since the current name of the game on Earth is "how can I extract more
energy to sustain myself", one has to wonder what would be the new game once
energy availability becomes limitless... perhaps something along the lines:
"What do You want to create today?"

I think if our collective hearts and souls are not in the right place first, we would simply become the new Godzilla, and wake up every day asking: "What do you want to destroy today?":nod:

Wade Frazier
10th September 2012, 00:22
Hi Ilie:

Great post. Yes, FE has likely been done before, and like Fred stated, maybe on this planet, but if it was, it may not have been done in an enlightened or loving manner, and we had to start over. I personally think that mastering FE may be part of a society’s evolution, at least for species that can manipulate their environments (Level 18 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level18, which may be ahead for us).

Yes, the “creation” part of what FE can bring can be the fun part. Bucky talked about it. Another way to look at it is humanity ascending Maslow’s Hierarchy a few levels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

Yes, we are on the brink of self-annihilation or making the leap to abundance. There is probably not much middle ground, or if there is, I would rather not return to see George Bush the Eighth become president, or some new Chinese dynasty rule the planet (of course, Godzilla really will, but he lets the little guys play their games as long as they do not threaten the big game).

To Fred’s post, I will get a little more specific on the kind of transition to FE that I am trying to help initiate. After many years in this milieu, I know that Joe Average is not going to wake up to FE and abundance unless it is delivered to his home, like Machiavelli said:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

But Joe Average is also not a sociopath. Sociopaths run the show on Earth because humanity is asleep. If sociopaths (AKA Dark Pathers http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) keep running the show for much longer, it will be game over for humanity.

There really is a “battle for souls” happening, IMO. The Dark Pathers want to drag everybody down to hell with them, and the Light Pathers want us to turn to corner, and have as many ascend to heaven as possible (and make heaven on Earth manifest). The fact is that the vast majority of people are currently in thrall to their false personalities, in the Michael jargon (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael), and fear is what keeps them locked into it. I have seen that phenomenon in spades in the USA since 9/11 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc), where Americans abdicated their collective sentience, allowing themselves to be herded by the social managers. Some of the stupidest things that I have ever heard have come from the mouths of some of the “smartest” people that I know. It took me many years to figure it out. That stupidity is a studied stupidity, because they believe that their stupidity will feed them. Those who think and talk so idiotically are actually the honest ones. If they really acknowledged the truth, their consciences would assail them, so those mindless imperial citizen beliefs are games to protect their consciences. One might ask if they really have a conscience, but I think that they do, and if they could see how it does not have to be a kill-or-be-killed world, where “I win, you lose” is the byword, I think that we could see an awakening like we have never had before, and the weaponization and strip mining fears of the Level 5s will not come to pass. We may still need a peacekeeping force of grandmothers for a while, until the delusional Young Warriors and the greedy finally get it, but I think that the lamb’s path to FE and abundance is at least worth trying.

But the masses will not wake up until they can see it with their eyes. It is the Doubting Thomas dynamic, and I have written about aspects of this issue in many ways (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question). The mass awakening will not happen, IMO, until the means for it to happen are demonstrable. This is part of the conundrum, and why Godzilla sits on his throne and why every Level 10 effort that I ever saw went down in flames.

I think that there is another way to get there, and I am trying it out. We will see how it goes. Time to go play husband.

Best,

Wade

Ixopoborn
10th September 2012, 08:42
... but I think that the lamb’s path to FE and abundance is at least worth trying.

Wade
I agree - an FE future is at worst, the "least worst" and at best, the "most best" future for mankind.

It appears to me that a non-FE future is plausibly sustainable but not without sacrificing/eradicating creativity and love from most of the human experience. This strikes me as a massively sub-optimal solution for humanity.

An FE future is most definitely plausibly sustainable but only after boosting creativity and love among people. However, FE is not free of mortal perils for humanity. It strikes me that a transition to an FE future is likely to be problematic - lets not kid ourselves, there is no magic FE wand available to us to make such a transition occur in a blink of an eye and without teething problems. Once FE is recognised by Joe Average as real, nothing can be done to undo its release so we are dealing with a single shot matter here - get it right first time or not at all.

Is it not the case though once released, FE development will be pretty much impossible to control. Not that I want to put restrictions on developments which are helpful to mankind but many exist which possibly may be very harmful, for example weaponisation of FE. I am convinced that humanity will over the long term adjust to FE by regulating itself in a much more loving, sharing and constructive way - this much is pretty clear from Wade's explanations so far.

But ... what about the bumps, jolts and possible destruction of humanity in the wake of introducing FE. Can we regulate the introduction of FE in a way that early stage risks become insignificant?

Wade Frazier
10th September 2012, 14:51
Hi Ixopoborn:

Great post, and the kind that I like seeing. Yes, FE is the one with potential like nothing else, which is exactly why Godzilla has the lid on it so tightly. Because of what I know of his global surveillance capabilities, nobody can do FE under the radar, and I’ll bet that the same would go for weaponizing it. The technical problems were solved long ago. The problem is in the collective heart and mind of humanity.

If we got the right people in place to help, there would not be any weaponization of FE or using it to strip mine the planet. The tools to prevent it already exist. And it would not take long at all, after the initial awakening, to see how stupid and self-destructive such activities would be. Today, all of the fears/justifications for weaponization and ecosystems exploitation operate from the scarcity principle. It really does not take a genius-level IQ to understand the implications of FE. The resistance that I have seen in more than 99% of the population that hears about FE (Levels 1 to 3, and 5 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1) is not because FE is a difficult idea by itself, but because the implications threaten to end the world as we know it, and that is what makes people fearful (those dismissals are all fear-based responses). Love is the answer, in both obvious and subtle ways.

The early stage risks and inertia of Joe Average, combined with the organized suppression and the masses being their own worst enemies, are what make this a conundrum, and there are no easy answers. I have put many ideas out there on how to get over the hump, and it comes down to what it always has come down to: finding enough people who care. That is the crux of the issue, and the primary lesson of my journey is how few truly do (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). That is not a judgment, but a reality that I was beaten over the head with long enough until I finally understood. That is why I say that I am looking for needles in haystacks; I know how few are out there. I believe that those needles can lead the way and produce “harmonic” effects that will guide the trajectory of how FE manifests and is implemented. This is my great experiment that I have barely begun, and what I have never seen anybody try before. Until now, every single effort that I have seen or been a part of falls into those pitfalls below Level 12, or becomes a Level 13 casualty.

I was just reading this morning about how the Caribbean coral reefs are nearly dead:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/10/caribbean-coral-reefs-collapse-environment

The wake-up calls have been blaring for many years for those with ears to hear. But the environmentalists don’t get it, as they propose austerity “solutions” and other small-ball “answers.” People like Heinberg advocate getting rid of six billion excess humans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

and so on. Again, getting to FE and enlightenment is like walking the razor’s edge. Not many can do it, but I am looking for the few that can. To the extent that such people can be amassed and become active, the lower the probability of a bumpy ride to a world based on FE. The lamb’s path is not only one that could overcome the inertia and suppression, but it could also be the one that ensures a gentle transition.

OK, back to the human journey. The Indus Valley Civilization seems to have perhaps been the least stratified of the early civilizations.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=550716&viewfull=1#post550716

Was it enlightened? The survivors of that civilization began to urbanize India, and the caste system emerged from those early days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Indian_caste_system#Historical_records

If there was an enlightening influence from the Indus Valley Civilization, it did not prevent the subcontinent from becoming a pretty miserable place for the lower castes. Thousands of years later, the situation is relatively unchanged. I live next to Microsoft’s campus, and our community is dominated by migrants from India. They are all upper caste members, mainly Brahmin. They are the only people in India with any opportunity, and they get the heck out of India when they have the chance, like the nouveau riche Chinese who mainly want to move to North America.

While we cannot yet decipher the Indus Valley Civilization script, we have deciphered that of their contemporary and neighbor, Sumer. The cuneiform tablets are among the earliest forms of writing, and as with all other early writing, it was primarily accounting to count up elite tribute:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing#The_beginning_of_writing

If the Indus script is ever deciphered, it will likely be primarily accounting, as with all the others. About the oldest example of laws from those days is the Code of Hammurabi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

The death penalty was liberally applied to all manner of offence.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543906&viewfull=1#post543906

Those Bronze Age times were exceedingly brutal. They arguably became worse when the Iron Age came to the Fertile Crescent, with the Old Testament documenting unending genocidal slaughters. When the Romans invented murder as entertainment for the masses:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#gladiator

it was not so much of an aberration. Life was nasty, brutal, and short in those ancient times. Even in a “refined” place such as Ancient Athens, the so-called birthplace of democracy, slaves outnumbered free people.

All worked metals were originally used as elite prestige goods, usually in some form of art. That goes for the New World, too. There was only a little bronze smelting happening when the Spaniards came a conquering, and it originated in South America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_Pre-Columbian_America

There is no evidence of any metal smelting in North America before the Europeans arrived. I have seen all manner of mystical explanation for why North America was such an unsullied paradise compared to Europe, and I can buy the idea that the Iroquois may have been an old soul culture:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#iroquois

But bronze metallurgy eventually made its way to Mesoamerica from South America, and Mesoamerican maize eventually made its way to the Eastern Woodlands. Because the ancestors of the natives of the Western Hemisphere killed off all the candidates for draft animals:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_extinctions#North_America

the incentives for inventing wheels, roads, and plow agriculture were limited. North America saw the rise and decline of the Mississippian culture before Europeans arrived, with a city like Cahokia abandoned long before the Europeans arrived:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia#Cahokia.27s_decline

and environmental decline around the city is thought to be largely responsible, as well as perhaps Little Ice Age droughts. Many anthropologists generally think that it was probably only a matter of time before the Bronze Age and perhaps Iron Age made its way to North America, with its resultant deforestation and other effects of civilization.

So, I will tend to focus on the Bronze Age and Iron Age peoples of the Old World, as they were “ahead” of the New World in their development. That is partly why the New World was so easily conquered. The Spanish understood the Native American mind well enough to set them against each other for easy conquests, while the Spanish mind was often inscrutable to the Native American mind. Todorov wrote about it in his classic study:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_America:_The_Question_of_the_Other

But when a high-energy culture meets a low-energy culture, the high-energy one always “wins.” This is identical to the ecological principle that the life form with the highest carrying capacity always wins in a competition for resources:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=546922&viewfull=1#post546922

The interaction of “carrying capacity,” technology, ideology, and culture can be seen as complex, but scientists easily rank them in importance, or at least what influences everything else: the material wellbeing of the peoples studied, which is always rooted in the energy situation. Going back to Tainter and why civilizations collapse:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=550716&viewfull=1#post550716

when a civilization runs out of energy, it can no longer maintain the complexity that allows it to run, and the civilization will always collapse into smaller populations, simpler social organization, and lose the collective skills that the agricultural surplus afforded the civilization. There is no exception in world history to that dynamic. Time to run off to work, but future posts will trace the development of those early Old World civilizations, which looks into some of those Stone Age cultures from time to time.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
11th September 2012, 15:54
Hi:

Only time for a brief post this morning. As humans produced items of economic value, such as tools and shelter, they could exchange them (or steal them). Barter and giving gifts were early economic exchanges. Before people were sedentary, if a hunter made a big kill, it was shared with the rest of the band. The kill was too big to eat for an individual before it spoiled, and sharing it created reciprocity, where the hunter and his family could eat another hunter’s kill at another time. But when people became sedentary, and a farmer could not just leave an area of conflict like a hunter-gatherer theoretically could, thus began civilization. One of the earliest outcomes of civilization was possessions and the means to exchange them. The evidence of using money goes back before domestication, as obsidian was traded 14,000 years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money#The_emergence_of_money

11,000 years ago, grain and cattle were used as money. Until that time, money had intrinsic value. You could use the money, such as make a weapon from the obsidian or eat the grain and cattle. It is called commodity money:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_money

The shekel was a unit of weight and money, which was first used about 5,000 years ago, in Mesopotamia. By 4,000 years ago, money was a standard part of the Fertile Crescent civilizations, with the Code of Hammurabi and other laws setting fine levels and interest rates.

Gold was a coveted elite good from the very beginnings of civilization, and was traded, but did not get used as standardized money until about 2,600 years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money#Standardized_coinage

Gold was a sacred metal, especially in sun-worshipping religions, such as Egypt’s and the Inca’s, where it was reserved for royalty. By the time of the invasion of Palestine by the Israelis more than 3,000 years ago, slaughtering the entire city of Jericho, and stealing all their gold and silver for “The Lord’s Treasury,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua

was normal. King Solomon had his mines, the Jerusalem’s temple was gilt with gold. The Romans even had a goddess of money:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneta#Juno_Moneta

But back in the days of Sumer, that earliest of civilizations, the political, religious and economic interests were united in their temples, which is where the gold was stored.

Similar to the dual benefits of civilization - an increase in the standard of living for most who participated, and an opportunity for the most clever, violent and ruthless to become elites and skim the society’s economic cream (integrative versus conflict theory – see Tainter’s The Collapse of Complex Societies for a discussion of this issue) - money was both a medium of exchange but also a way of amassing economic and political control.

The early religions all made the elites the representatives of divinity on Earth, further justifying their positions, and political dynasties were the norm. Religious and political indoctrination went hand-in-hand back then, to condition the masses to accept their status. There was little social mobility. There was not really enough agricultural surplus to fund freedom, as all hands were needed on deck to create the modest surplus that the elites disproportionately enjoyed.

Slavery began when civilization did, and it has always been a strictly economic institution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Economics

Mystical material such as the Michael teachings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

provide soul-based frameworks to make those economic/political/social hierarchies comprehensible, but it certainly does not make them right. Kings rack up their largest negative karma when playing tyrant (“off with their heads”), and servers face their greatest fears when being compelled to serve. But those are on the scarcity/fear side of the coin. The abundance/love side of the coin is when “fragments” reach their potential and make “essence” contact (their souls come through).

Sorry for the short post, but I have to run off to work. I have long work days ahead of me for the next two months.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th September 2012, 04:28
Hi:

A slight break of stride here. This is a typical economist playing analyst:

http://www.voxeu.org/article/us-economic-growth-over

The cause of the vastly increasing standard of living during the Industrial Revolution is the same one that led to the hunter-gather Golden Age and the Domestication Revolution.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct

But the importance of energy, indeed its supreme position, is hard to find in those kinds of economic analyses, which is partly why physical scientists rarely have much respect for economists.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
12th September 2012, 14:49
Hi:

I only have time for another brief post today. Those early days of civilization were the beginnings of ideological indoctrination, and those days established a pattern that continues today. The pattern was creating a religion (or corrupting existing religious beliefs) that exalted the elites as the representatives of divinity on Earth (the secular versions today are the lies told about Columbus and Washington (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), for instance, and in the case of Serra, it is literally making a genocidal priest into a saint (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint)).

Lavish temples and other monumental architecture were erected by the surplus labor that the agricultural surplus afforded, which further aggrandized the elites. Religious indoctrination further enforced the political/economic/social order. The elites always engaged in conspicuous economic consumption as a mark of their status (including harems). Those who played along got to eat, and had a chance to move up a notch in the hierarchy. Those at the hierarchy’s bottom were supposed to know their place, and slavery made its appearance with civilization. Breeding slaves was better than capturing them, because people who have known freedom will always seek it, while those who have only known slavery are less likely to desire freedom.

In the life of bands and villages, everybody knew everybody else, more or less (and gossip largely replaced grooming as the social “glue”). That was not possible in urban living. Indoctrination and the development of cultural identity was partly to form social “cohesion.” As Albert Einstein said, that kind of conditioning is about controlling the semi-sentient herd:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#sentience

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#einstein

As the domestication of the silver fox made very clear:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

domestication results in the retention of juvenile traits in adults. This is typical in domesticated animals, and the silver fox domestication shows how quickly it can happen.

That juvenilization is also called neoteny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

and humans are essentially juvenile chimps, as far as our morphology goes:

http://www.gmilburn.ca/2009/03/30/chimpanzees-and-neoteny/

Research is pointing to neoteny being partly responsible for our large brains:

http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/03/24/genetic-neoteny-how-delayed-genes-separate-human-brains-fr/

That lactose tolerance that was such a boon to herders:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543124&viewfull=1#post543124

is a form of neoteny. Humans are the only animals that can digest lactose past infancy. This interplay of genetics, diet, and civilization is thought to have been at work in the domestication of humans. Certain aggressive traits may have been bred out of humanity,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-domestication#In_humans

http://wonderquest.com/human-domestication.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2082022/

and we aren’t the only the only primate who may have done this:

http://www.nextnature.net/2012/02/bonobos-and-maybe-baboons-domesticated-themselves/

How much of that was a culling by elites to make a more manageable herd?

Tellingly, while the forebrains of humans have expanded enormously (the most dramatic evolutionary change in the history of life on Earth), the seat of our emotions, our limbic system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system

is not larger in humans than the other great apes. This is a big part of our problem. If we turn the corner, this will likely change, perhaps as dramatically as our forebrains did.

And this plays right into the FE conundrum. Those who think that the mass of humanity can “get it,” without the physical means to accomplish it, have a very tall task ahead of them. I have been part of some of the greatest Level 10 attempts yet made (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10), and they did not have a prayer. More than 99% of humanity is not going to “get it” until they can see and touch it. And when they do, there will be material and eventually genetic reinforcement of love and abundance. Watching people being forced to murder each other was entertainment in that largest ancient civilization. Those days are over, I hope, although vestiges of them can still be seen in beer-swilling American “sports” culture, and how violent Hollywood movies always do well overseas.

Those that I foresee leading humanity to FE and abundance will be those who broke out of the herd, can think for themselves, and operate from the heart. I don’t like the word “faith,” especially how it is used by religious fundamentalists. Coming to an understanding that FE is here is not an act of blind faith. People can do their homework, do some investigation, and go far down the path to get satisfied, long before they run into Godzilla. The FE field is richly documented, but several thousand classified energy patents and the many thousands of people who took the quiet money can make it more difficult than other areas, as far as getting to the bottom of it. I am one of the few survivors of the FE wars with a public presence, but I have yet to ever hear from anybody who obtained Dennis’s books, the two most important of which were written from his cells. That situation is partly why this will be a long slog. Almost all people are lazy and want to be spoon-fed, without having to leave their easy chairs, having FE and enlightenment dropped in their laps. The people who will lead humanity to FE have a lot of work ahead of them, but I do not know of a worthier cause, not if you are a human. In the end, we all have to do the work, and those doing the heavy lifting will benefit the most, soul-wise, and it will give the rest of humanity a leg-up in getting over the hump. It is hard enough just being here, so nobody gets off easy. :)

Time for work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
13th September 2012, 14:27
Hi:

Time for another brief one. I doubt that it can be stressed enough that early civilization was filled with ideological indoctrination via symbology. The monumental architecture was part of it, and could be seen as about the ultimate in elite luxury goods. Ornate burials, with the monumental architecture acting as tombs at times, was also part of the system. Potentates would be buried with “wives” and slaves, killed to order, and other elaborate grave goods. King Tut’s grave goods, bought with the lives of countless hapless souls in the gold mines, are still on tour, coming to Seattle soon.

Attributing divine status to elites, with the religion, enforced by monumental architecture, luxury goods, harems and the like, was all about justifying their position atop the hierarchy. All early use of metal was as artistic, elite prestige goods. Practical use came later, but for gold and silver, practical use virtually never came in the ancient world. Those metals were too soft to use as tools, so their use was restricted to elite luxury art, and eventually money. But unlike cattle or grain, silver and gold had no intrinsic value. It was only used as money because it was scarce.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#smith

In a world of scarcity, however, something that scarce became the focus of more obsessions over the millennia than for any other substances. Just yesterday, I was watching an economic debate:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/schiff-vs-insana-matter-vs-anti-matter

where gold was called real money, as opposed to paper money. Money is only accounting, not reality. Unless the money has value other than accounting use, it is merely a symbol, with no intrinsic value. Even today, the industrial uses of gold and silver are not major. Two-thirds of silver production today (which is an infinitesimal fraction of metal mining) goes into industrial use, but only about 10% of gold production makes its way into industry, primarily in electronics. The pharaohs did not have electronics. :)

The gold situation is one of earliest examples of ideology trumping reality. Gold and silver were worthless metals, but people killed each other over them, millions were worked to death mining them, and even today, they hold an exalted status, even called the only “real” money. They are as real as paper is. About the only difference is that paper is easier to produce. Any discussion of real economics must dismiss “precious” metals as of very minor economic importance, whose value is chiefly due to how rare they are, not how useful they are. But in almost every “economic” discussion I have ever seen, the focus is on money, which is merely a symbol of reality, not the real thing.

Gold and silver formed the early basis for what is known as the financial economy, where a layer of abstraction was laid over the real economy. And if people would accept the symbol as reality, then the manipulation of the symbol could manipulate reality, at least in the minds of the deceived. The abstraction of reality has reached new levels in the modern economy, where money is no longer based on something as useless but rare as “precious” metals, but on slick accounting games, where the manipulators can virtually make it up as they go.

The reason why everybody focuses on the symbol of the economy and not the economy itself is because money is how we eat, put roofs over our heads, and buy our energy. But that only has a microeconomic meaning, and really does not mean much in the big picture. Economists have also lost sight of the real economy, homogenizing everything with market prices and producing their misleading analyses, one of which I recently presented:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=552107&viewfull=1#post552107

Physical scientists often call economics a wannabee science. If you ever read technical economic literature, it is all advanced math, and it is almost completely divorced from reality. Almost no prominent economists could see the crash of 2008-2009 coming, but it was easy to see for those with their eyes open.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#enron

I have seen economists described as intellectual warriors of the elites, performing similar services as those ancient priests did that exalted the elites.

Those draconian laws of Hammurabi, or the endless genocides in the Old Testament, to steal the gold and silver:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua

were signs of the times. The Egyptians, and later the Romans, worked slaves to death in the gold mines. Explorations of the ancient Egyptian and Roman mines yielded mounds of bones of the miners that died in the mines. There were even instances of the skeleton having a collar that anchored the hapless miner to the rock wall, mining until death. In ancient Rome, “working” as a gladiator was usually preferable to working in the mines.

The financial economy is not real and never has been, but because it is how participants typically interact and is how they get fed, I call the financial economy the egocentric economy, whose motto is, “What’s in it for me?” As long as the focus is on the meaningless financial economy, the elites have the game well in hand, and the herd is well tended.

Scientists and groups such as the radical left tend to see the financial economy’s games for what they are, and they focus on the real economy, which is based on matter and energy and always has been. The real economy aligns with classical economic concept of economic production. The financial economy aligns with the classical economic concept of economic exchange. But without production there can be no exchange.

I have been invited into “radical” economic forums, but when I peruse the topics, they are all about money and taxation, which is all about exchange. There is nothing radical about that. Under an abundance-based economy, which would necessarily be based on FE, money becomes meaningless. Government and taxes wither away to nothing. The idea of elites becomes obsolete, and that is exactly why Godzilla has the lid so tightly on FE, not due to some kind of benevolent concern that humanity will misuse FE and destroy the planet. Godzilla’s reign is well on the way to destroying the planet, and instead of letting FE out to the public, they have plans to terraform Mars and other insane strategies, in case Earth becomes uninhabitable. Fortunately, cooler heads may prevail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

although I am not waiting for their collective “benevolence” to carry the day.

American Indians could often see through the European obsession with money:

http://www.quotes.net/quote/16519

So, there were huge downsides to early Old World civilizations, as well as the slow development of technological means to wrench more energy from the environment. The Old World’s Bronze Age began around when the pastoralists began their disastrous invasions of the fertile river valleys of the Fertile Crescent. Those milk-digesting herders, with their paternalists, sky-god religions:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543124&viewfull=1#post543124

eventually overthrew many of the sedentary, agricultural civilizations, and set themselves up as the new elite. Long before the Judeo-Christian religions appeared on the scene, religion was turned from the feminine deities of the agricultural religions to the masculine deities of the pastoral religions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine

The herders triumphed. Historians have often remarked on the cultural renaissance that followed the overthrow of the old order by the conquerors. A classic example is the court of Kublai Khan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kublai_Kahn

the grandson of Genghis. Today, about sixteen million men can claim descent from Genghis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan

He was a busy man, with his harems and rapes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html

Genghis was only one in a very long line of brutal warriors on horseback, invading the settled regions and establishing themselves as the new elites. The Mongol hordes were understandably the model for the Klingons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_culture#Portrayal_over_time

All civilizations are built on their energy footprints. The more energy that could be concentrated, the larger the civilization. That ability to concentrate energy was dependent on generating the energy in the first place. In early civilization, that meant the production of an agricultural surplus. Plow agriculture did that, which was dependent on draft animals and the metal that made the plows. I have already described the dynamics of deforestation, metal smelting, plow agriculture and the eventual desertification of the lands:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=543474&highlight=cyprus#post543474

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=547555&viewfull=1#post547555

so I won’t belabor it here, but it should suffice to say that it happened to all the Old World cultures, with the partial exception of Egypt. The silt (due to erosion, not all natural) from the Nile’s annual flood is what kept Egypt’s fields fertile, and Egypt had the Old World’s most reliable food supply, which was why it was so coveted, conquered time and again.

Time to run to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
14th September 2012, 14:53
Hi:

In the Old World, the dynamics of their Bronze Age economies were all similar, with metal smelting, deforestation, plow agriculture, and domestic animals and crops suited to the various climates. In those days, the domesticates were raised not far from their place of origin where they were domesticated, and are still raised there today. That quintessential Chinese dish, chicken and rice, was made from life forms domesticated in China. The Chinese rice paddy system was the most sophisticated agricultural system in the Old World. The chinampa system of Mesoamerica:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinampa

was a cousin. In Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum, he presents data that supports his arguments that cattle grazing and the artificial wetlands of the paddy system began to increase the methane content of the atmosphere measurably about five thousand years ago. He also presents data that supports his arguments that the deforestation of the early Domestication Revolution began to increase the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere measurably about eight thousand years ago. Those trends have only become more extreme in the modern era. Contrary to what Rush Limbaugh and friends think (or are paid to think), humans have been altering Earth’s physical and ecological systems for thousands of years. The primary upshot of Ruddiman’s work is that all of these human activities that are altering the composition of Earth’s atmosphere have been having the effect of keeping Earth warmer than usual and pushing back the glacial interval that has been coming back like clockwork every hundred thousand years.

I have seen estimates that humanity may be pushing back the next glacial interval by as much as 50,000 years. One thing is for sure: we are in uncharted territory with burning fossil fuels like we are. The venting of carbon dioxide by humanity is a hundred times greater than natural variation. Because we are in uncharted territory, some scientists have been coming up with frightening possibilities that are well within reason. One being promoted by Peter Ward these days is that the oceans have been absorbing most of the carbon dioxide of the industrial era. It is acidifying the oceans, and the extinction of shellfish is already being documented due to the acidifying oceans. It is very possible that the oceans will stop being such a handy sponge for humanity’s pollution, and we hit 1000 PPM carbon dioxide in a hundred years, which in turn precipitates Canfield Oceans and a hydrogen sulfide event and the resulting mass extinction as the ozone layer is wiped out.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=532246&highlight=canfield#post532246

It has happened before, and we are toying with events like that now, in our awesome short-sightedness. But back to early civilization. Copper melts at about the temperature of a good hearth fire, and was the first smelted metal, along with tin and other metals that made bronze. Iron, however, does not melt until getting about 500 degrees Celsius hotter than copper needs to. In order to melt iron, technology had to improve to get those hotter temperatures. The trick was getting more oxygen to the fire, and after thousands of years of Bronze Age smelting, Old World technicians learned how to smelt iron:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ferrous_metallurgy#Iron_smelting_and_the_Iron_Age

Iron is a superior metal to bronze, when carbon is added to make steel, and about three thousand years ago, iron smelting displaced bronze smelting. Iron Age peoples had a technological advantage over Bronze Age peoples, and the Celtic people overran Western Europe with their superior iron technology, especially weaponry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts#Origins

Steel plows and axes were far superior to bronze ones, and the ability to wrench more energy from the land increased. By that time, the milk-drinking herders had successfully invaded the agricultural lands, and they brought their paternalistic religion and language with them, and half of the world speaks their daughter languages today. The Old World became an exceedingly violent place, as documented in the Old Testament and other early literary sources. Empires rose and fell, constantly, over thousands of years in that part of the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGdFnlzBdo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpD01pXsTAE&feature=related

If you have light skin or can digest milk, you are likely descended from those Old World ancestors.

That Old World technological complex interacted, all over Eurasia and Africa. There were some natural barriers, such as the Sahara and the Tibetan Plateau, but various technologies eventually spread throughout them. None of those barriers were as formidable as the oceans that separated the Eastern and Western Hemispheres. While there is some evidence of interchange between the hemispheres before Columbus arrived, the effects were very minor.

Time to run off to work.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier
15th September 2012, 20:06
Hi:

Villages, towns and cities originally arose in Stone Age cultures, after agriculture was invented. The population densities afforded by agriculture were a necessary prerequisite for urban formation. Studies of cities always place their development within an economic context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#Theories

If the economic advantages of cities outweighed the disadvantages, a city might form. When sedentary populations formed due to the stationary energy source that agriculture provided (which some small exceptions, such as the Pacific Northwest culture http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#northwest ), people began to have possessions, primarily stored food. Farming tools and dwellings comprised the other primary possessions of those early sedentary civilizations. Because those early villages deforested the land and exhausted the soils rapidly, they were not permanent, but moved along riversides and lakeshores, finding new patches of forests and undisturbed soils. Villages formed before towns, and towns before cities.

The reasons for urban formation vacillate between integrative and conflict theory:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=551842&highlight=integrative#post551842

Integrative theory best explains why average people were attracted to cites, while conflict theory best explains why elites appeared and took advantage of the situation.

Eridu vies for the title of world’s first city:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

It was founded by fisherman, farmers and herders, and is an example of why cities were also not sustainable, really for the same reasons why villages were not: they eventually lost their energy supply, often by the environmental degradation that results from civilized activities (deforestation, erosion, siltation, salination). Protecting possessions from theft was one of the earliest reasons for cities. Walled and fortified cities provided protection from thieves, especially the organized thievery and murder practiced by armies. Early cities were partly based on an economization of protection.

Reduced transportation costs are one of the other primary reasons for cities to form. The exchange of goods, people, and ideas is made more energy efficient in cities. Cities allowed for people to develop specialized skills in a way that less dense forms could not achieve. Of course, the elites turned cities into showcases of the religions that exalted them, with the standard monumental architecture, and human sacrifice was common enough:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice#Evolution_and_context

While there was enough energy to fund them, cities allowed for more complex social organization. When they ran out of energy, they collapsed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

As with all human endeavors, it all rides on the foundation of how energy is acquired, preserved and used. Everything depends on that, just as all ecosystems do. Only after the energy situation is handled can the other aspects of civilization and human development happen, and energy availability shapes all of them. Other than some Stone Age civilizations that did not deforest and plow the land, no civilization has ever been sustainable. Today’s industrialized civilizations are burning though their primary resource (hydrocarbon fuels) about a million times as fast as they were created, and the geophysical processes that formed the hydrocarbon deposits that are being mined and burned today will not form any more for many millions of years. The process that led to the formation of coal beds will never happen again:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=527620&viewfull=1#post527620

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=528765&viewfull=1#post528765

Coal was the first, and will be the last, fossil fuel, and when it is gone, there won’t be any more of note, ever again, on this planet. The oil deposits were originally laid down in anoxic conditions, the kind that accompany mass extinction events (Peter Ward discusses it in Under A Green Sky, and see how anoxic oceans are associated with mass extinction events http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoxic_event http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoxic_event#Background http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/End%E2%80%93Ordovician_extinction_event ),

Burning through forests and soils was just a phase (a phase which continues, as a quarter of Earth’s topsoil has been destroyed by humanity since the 1940s). Burning through the megafauna preceded it. Burning through all the fossil fuels is simply the latest phase of unsustainability, and in few ways does it resemble abundance.

City life enabled the rise of professions, where humanity’s skillset increased. A key invention was writing and literacy. While it was originally invented so that elites could keep track of their loot, as with many other elite inventions, it eventually tricked down to the masses. Writing and literacy freed up the human mind for something other than memorizing oral histories, and resulted in advances that eventually led to scientific and other revolutions. A lot is lost in reducing information and ideas to writing, which is partly why pre-literate cultures did not trust it. Some still don’t:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#iroquois

Civilization also had many downsides, with crowding, filth, and disease being some of them. Even in Europe not too long ago, life expectancy was lower in the cities than the countryside, so the constant influx of the “surplus” population from the countryside is what kept the city populations from falling. While proportionally, violence decreased in civilization, as compared to hunter-gather societies, violence became an art form, with all manner of flowery and exalted justification for it, such are humanity’s delusions. To a great degree, the game is the same today. But history clearly shows the trends, going all the way back to the beginnings of life on Earth. When there was enough energy for everybody, all was in peace and plenty. But when there were more mouths to feed than the energy source provided, the mouths began to eat each other. The bonobos are a recent example of an energy subsidy changing the social organization, as they were the first ape to end male domination:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

Humans are still working on it. :)

Not only was Mesopotamia the site of the first cities; it was also the site of the first empires, first Sumer (arguably) and then Akkad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire

Empires are about elites concentrating more energy than a city can provide. As with city formation, empires also had their efficiencies, at least for a while. In an empire that was running on all cylinders, there was little internal division, so the energy wasted on warfare between city-states was saved. Commerce was an easier affair, which is again an energy concept. Along with commerce came standardization of goods, such as brands. Ancient Rome had trademarks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark#History

and brands go back as far as 10,000 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand#History

Caveat Emptor is one of the world’s oldest aphorisms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor

The virtues and ills of civilization are big subjects, but they always come down to the energy issue, at their root. I have a busy weekend ahead of me, so signing off for now.

Best,

Wade