WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Wade Frazier

7th January 2011, 14:45

Hi:

I was not expecting to have a forum like this appear before I finished my upcoming essay. There may be more going on here than meets the eye. A forum run by Bill is about the only one that I would even consider joining, and we will see how this goes.

My site is rather large, and I think that interested readers might benefit from a little navigational help, as far as the message that I am trying to get across. Many in this forum are ready for it, and if anybody can improve the vision and take it higher, they are welcome to do so. Nobody can do this by themselves. A group effort is required.

Much of my background and journey is not presented on my site, as I try to protect the anonymity of some key players. Many lives were wrecked, some ended prematurely, and almost everybody who was involved in my odyssey in a significant way just wants to quietly live the rest of their lives and have some fun before their creator comes to take them away. If anybody wants to delve into the story more deeply, please respect those people who would rather be left alone. If I present their name, they may be amenable to being contacted; if I have not, then they would rather not be contacted.

With that preamble, here goes.

As Bill stated, I was groomed from a young age for my journey. I was a scientific prodigy from the first grade onward, and got plenty of grooming.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#johnson

Our family changed its diet when I was twelve:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

I had my mystical awakening at sixteen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

and my alternative energy dreams began at the same age:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

and at nineteen, the first desperate prayer of my life radically changed my studies from chemistry to business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

After college, I had a baptism by fire in downtown Los Angeles:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#grad

The second, and so far last, desperate prayer of my life was again answered in dramatic fashion, and landed me in what may have been the greatest attempt yet made to bring alternative energy to the American market:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

Then my wild ride began. When the dust settled three years later,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

my life was wrecked and I was radicalized. I then spent about 12,000 hours of unpaid labor to research, write and edit the 2002 version of my site (my site today is largely unchanged from that version). Then I resumed my career. Soon after I finished my site, a pupil of Bucky Fuller’s said that I was a “comprehensivist,” and I did not know what he meant. After reading some of Fuller’s work, I understood:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

I was then able to articulate my perspective in a more paradigmatic fashion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

I got a lot more than I bargained for from my journey. For one thing, I had a monster of a midlife crisis that began in 2000:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

What contributed to it was the summer of 1999, when I researched my war essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm

I stopped drinking the next year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#skid

If I had not stopped drinking before my midlife crisis hit in full force, I would probably be a physical wreck today. As it was, my midlife crisis pretty much debilitated me from interacting with the public on the subject matter of my site, and it was a surprise invitation to the White House that catalyzed the end of my crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

I am a lot better, but will always be dealing with the aftermath of my journey. I got more than I bargained for in many ways. Burying a partner whose life was shortened due to his involvement with me was bitter medicine:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

I also came to understand that free energy and other exotic technologies exist today, but are kept under deep wraps:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#underground

people like Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

and Adam Trombly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm#trombly

were outsiders with the goods who suffered greatly for trying to bring free energy to the world. When I eventually encountered Steven Greer, his revelations confirmed much of what I had independently discovered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#greer

We indeed live in a strange universe, and the so-called “conspiracy theories” barely scratch its surface.

My days with Dennis Lee were extremely educational, and being Indiana Jones’s spear carrier was a once-in-a-many-lifetime experience, but I would not wish my journey on anybody else. When I began encountering fellow travelers like Brian O’Leary:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

and Tom Bearden:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

I found that we came to the same general vicinity on many issues. As Brian said in our interview, this is a lonely journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

It was initially very disorienting to get rejected from almost all directions when pursing free energy or even talking about it. My fellow travelers all had similar experiences. It was a real mind-bender, but after reading Fuller’s work, I was able to articulate what I was seeing: all the deniers were, in one way or another, addicted to scarcity and had carved out their niche in hell:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Free energy and true abundance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

literally meant the end of the world as they knew it, so my message was perceived as a great, malevolent threat. Eventually, I borrowed one of Brian’s ideas and put what I was seeing into an onion concept. More than 99.9% of humanity is currently trapped in the early layers of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Abundance is unimaginable to them. The Dennises and Greers are out there, taking the warrior’s path to free energy, and I wish them the best. In my old age, I am trying something different; I am simply trying to make free energy, abundance, and a healed planet thinkable. I am not asking anybody to risk their lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

I think that if enough of us can simply imagine abundance, it may provide the critical mass to get this ball rolling forward.

There are obviously many challenging ideas in what I just wrote. I don’t expect anybody to begin to digest it anything less than a month, although many of this forum’s members have already trod many of the paths that I lay out, so much of it may be familiar territory. I welcome critiques of my work (I wish I had a year to re-edit my site, but it is time that I do not have), but challengers should know that I have never received a challenge to my work’s validity that was honest, informed and intelligent:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm

The only critiques that were honest, informed and intelligent were constructive and tried to help make the material better, and I invite such criticism.

So, with that introduction out of the way, my goal in joining this forum is to help make abundance and a healed planet thinkable. If enough of us can sing along, we can become a chorus that just might be able to make a difference regarding these immense issues.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Wade

Celine

7th January 2011, 15:30

A group effort is required.

So, with that introduction out of the way, my goal in joining this forum is to help make abundance and a healed planet thinkable. If enough of us can sing along, we can become a chorus that just might be able to make a difference regarding these immense issues.

Wade

Abundance and a healed planet... what a wonderful gift you bring this forum. Thank you.

Great introduction

Welcome To PA!

be well and know you are love,
celine

http://www.quadvision.com/images/d_abundance.gif

noprophet

7th January 2011, 15:36

Hi Wade, welcome to the forum.

I'm curious; do you believe it would be possible to make a DIY (Do It Yourself) free energy system?

My main purpose for which would be to spread plans across the internet/world for something people could build at home and slowly start removing dependence on "the grid".

Also with the intent of a possible "open-source" type of project utilizing people all over the planet participating for constant refinement and improvement.

Think the Linux of free energy :P

DawgBone

7th January 2011, 15:54

Welcome, Wade!

bluestflame

7th January 2011, 16:22

welcome to Wade , and i absolutely agree with his statement regarding the free energy devices and all technology an attempt to mimic spiritual gifts and abilities

be interesting times indeed when the latent abilities awaken in each and every one of us ( and the innate wisdom to use it wisely )

and thanks Bill

DawgBone

7th January 2011, 16:34

Free Energy has enormous practical value. But it is also a great way to expose planetary control: Why has this technology been withheld? What were the motives in doing so? Who is responsible, etc, etc.

If large numbers of people could get their hands on a proof of concept free energy device, it would go viral. The Elite would be exposed. People would demand answers, and not just about free energy.

Pitchforks and torches (an abundance of them)

Wade Frazier

7th January 2011, 16:42

Hi noprophet:

Good question, and one that is appropriate to address early on. You will get a lengthy reply this weekend, but for now, the short answer is that I highly doubt it. Making a free energy device is a lot harder than it looks. On the Linux angle, when I was with Dennis, we always hoped that the Global Controllers would steal our stuff and beat us to market, and we could then sit back and say, "you won!". ;)

The capitalist path to free energy is doomed, IMO. They locked that up angle long ago, which I discovered the hard way. I had a lengthy exchange with the granddaddy of Linux not too many years ago on free energy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/freesoft.htm

and the guy was about as obtuse as it gets, and my exchanges with him helped inspire this little vignette:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

It is a nice idea, but the day that average Americans can build Pentium chips in their garages from scratch, then yes, they might be able to take a crack at building a free energy machine for their house.

Best,

Wade

Sidney

7th January 2011, 16:51

Wow, thank you for sharing !!AND welcome!:welcome:

Eric

7th January 2011, 16:58

Wade hi

I have to say that your PC interview was one of my favourites, amid all the tragedy there was a glimmer of hope that just sang out to me. I had a dream as a youngster that I invented a machine that changed water into fuel using electricity and it wasn't untill I did school chemistry that I realised it was Electrolysis. With all the nay sayers and supposed evidence of inefficiency I never persued the dream like you did. I was wondering what your view of the Stan Mayer story was. I only joined the forum this week but Welcome anyway.

cheers Eric

zebowho

7th January 2011, 17:26

Welcome Wade,

I'm not one of the usual posters on this forum but I just have to say, What a brilliant counter to the threads of late. Excellent and Thanks to you and Bill!!

I have to echo NoProphet's words here and hope we can find a way, all though I do understand the many difficulties.

Ilie Pandia

7th January 2011, 17:37

Hello Wade and welcome to Avalon.

Have you written something about John Bedini? I tried to search your site with Google but did not get any results.

GK76

7th January 2011, 17:59

Hi Wade,

I'm currently working through the wealth of information you have provided, oh well... there goes the weekend. :)

I certainly believe the time and effort you have put into writing will be gratefully received and acknowledged here.

Many thanks and welcome.

witchy1

7th January 2011, 22:36

The very existence of elites is based on economic scarcity. When abundance reigns, the idea of elites becomes obsolete http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm

Thank you Wade, welcome to Avalon and thank you for joining us

Ross

7th January 2011, 22:58

Hello Wade,

A very warm welcome to you. Your presence here will prove to be of significant value. I for one, am very thrilled that you have joined us. :yo:

Corncrake

7th January 2011, 23:16

I have been reading the material on your site since your original interview with Project Camelot - it has been in many ways a sad but inspirational journey. I also admire the work of Brian O'Leary. Welcome back - really pleased and motivated to find you here.

grannyfranny100

7th January 2011, 23:25

Hello Wade

You are a breathe of spring air in a very cold winter. Welcome

Granny Franny

bashi

7th January 2011, 23:44

High Wade,
it sounds promising. I copied the guideline sites and will go through them, but that might take some time.
This is just more than a lot...
Greetings and welcome,
bashi

rosie

8th January 2011, 00:27

Greetings Wade! Looking forward to your posts, your vibration sings!
in love & light:wub:

Beren

8th January 2011, 00:32

Hi Wade,

I read a bit from your site ( huge amount of info) and I want to say one thing;
I bless your intention if it is Love for all .
Even if it is not I still bless you for your effort.
As you noted : Love is all there is.

You state one truth among many ;
that all technology that exist everywhere in the universe is just a mimic of spiritual power we all have.
Tech per se is not a bad thing. But as everything - it can be abused.
Tech should work as a helper to mankind on our journey towards God. A tool which help us go forward just like a knife is a useful tool to cut an orange or loaf of bread.
It should never be our reason to demise ourselves (we could slaughter somebody with the same knife).
As people progress ,we then use less and less tech . Instead we use more and more the spirit power that we all have.
Ultimately ,nothing can replace spiritual power.

An illustration:

imagine the most powerful weapon ever imagined or created in the universe. Something so cruel and destructible that can destroy a galaxy.

And even that weapon is nothing when you compare it with the power of spirit. At a single thought and probably a wave of hand (not necessarily at all-but for the sake of the current mind pattern of thinking ) ,you can deactivate the weapon,disintegrate it and bound the weapon controller in a wrap roll of unseen chain before you.
That is the power of spirit.

And because this power is such as it is,many do not believe it exist.
But it`s the most precious gift we have from Creator.
But it has a catch, it can only be activated if you are united with Creator which is Love.

No cheating . ;)

So that`s why I bless you dear friend,may you be one with Love always.
And everybody too!
:wave:

fifi

8th January 2011, 02:27

Hi Wade,
Thank you very much for joining this forum, and sharing your wisdom with us.

Hi Bill,
Thanks for inviting Wade and for your relentless effort to bring the truth out to the public. This forum is really the best alternative media I have known so far.

John_b

8th January 2011, 12:53

Welcome, Wade.

I read your entire website when I first learned about it through Project Camelot. Thank you for your gift to the world. I appreciate your focus on abundance as key to the evolution of consciousness, and your willingness to carefully and patiently navigate a viable path of awakening through the formidable obstacles you have identified, such as the rarity of personal integrity. I think integrity can be contagious, though, given a self-reinforcing community, like a campfire whose logs are close enough to keep each other burning brightly but when scattered all fade and die out. I hope you find a critical mass of integrity here at Avalon.

It appears to me that people are more open to adjusting their belief systems toward abundance when they can personally experience it. There are many unfolding experiments in abundance happening right now, collectively contributing to a mass awakening. The internet itself is probably the most pervasive of these developments. It has already awoken billions to an abundance of information at progressively lower costs. Now we see movements forming which are asserting the right (http://www.ahumanright.org/) of humanity to free internet access (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2010/1222/One-man-s-plan-for-free-Internet-for-the-world-via-satellite). Because of the internet, it is less of a stretch for people to imagine such other forms of abundance as free energy. Humanity still has a rich diversity, and thanks to the internet the countless local and regional traditions and experiments in abundance can spread and cross-pollinate globally, very rapidly.

I've been focusing on economics and money systems lately, since in these areas are some of the greatest systemic perpetuators of the scarcity paradigm. Monetary currency, in particular, is like the blood of the body of humanity. When the blood is diseased, nothing else in the body can be healthy for long. Conversely, if there is a problem anywhere in the body, evidence of it can often be detected in the blood. Our money system is infected and rotten. There are many antidotes already available: some traditional and proven, others experimental and making use of new technology. Examples: the Keiser campaign to buy silver (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7980-Max-Keiser-initiates-silver-run-on-Alex-Jones&p=68334#post68334), various local and digital currency initiatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_currency) and the Bank of North Dakota model (http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/pottersville.php).

Some solutions are enabled by new technology. Perhaps free energy will be one of these. But there are already technologies available that can rapidly shift the paradigm away from artificially induced scarcity that originates from the dominant centers of control, to a distributed, decentralized, holographic paradigm in which eco-friendly abundance is possible. Examples: local agriculture and local manufacturing (such as fab-labs and 3-D printers). I think the Open Source Ecology (http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Main_Page?old-url=true&title=Main_Page) project is promising.

Other solutions already exist as proven traditions in various cultures around the world. Some can be adapted and enhanced with modern technology, while others are already ideal. For example, the West can learn much from the Islamic money and banking system, which prohibits usury. Some researchers have deduced that the primary reason for the demonization of Islam has been because its beliefs about money are antithetical to the western banking system, which may be the fulcrum upon which the elites leverage their material control over humanity.

All people need is to have a few experiences of how much power they can have again if they cooperate in common, mutually beneficial causes, rather than allow themselves to be divided and misdirected. One simple, but inspiring example of people-power is the Chinese phenomenon of tuangou or team buying (http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0511/p01s01-woap.html), which combines internet technology with a cultural trait of strong social cohesion. Social cooperation combined with technological innovation can transform our world. Sara in Kenya (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/25/science/earth/25fossil.html?_r=1) is leveraging a little natural free energy into a significant increase of abundance in her life, thanks in part to support from Westen technological innovation and Oriental social investment.

There are so many good things happening that all we really need to do is support, facilitate, and spread awareness about them, and remove our support (http://www.unitedwestrike.com/) from the failing paradigm. I helped build the Avalon Translation Project as an example of a holographic community that could help spread awareness into many different languages, and itself be a model of intercultural cooperation.

And it would be useful to formulate a philosophical foundation as a common ground for mutual understanding, collaboration and exchange among all the diverse abundance initiatives. The P2P Foundation (http://p2pfoundation.net/) has already contributed much to these efforts, as you yourself have.

Perhaps a new forum area should be opened to coordinate all efforts that promote the abundance paradigm.

John

Wade Frazier

8th January 2011, 18:24

Hi everybody:

Thanks for the welcome. We will see how this goes.

What follows is intended to answer a few of the responses, as well as noprophet’s. It should also help clarify my orientation to the issues.

My initial orientation to the energy issue was from the invention and scientific side, when my first mentor invented the world’s best engine for powering an automobile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

I had my mystical awakening at about the same time:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#how

Mr. Mentor’s engine came into his mind’s eye, fully realized, in a flash of insight:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#flash

A few years after that, a desperate prayer radically changed my studies from science to business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

So, the earthly and the mystical were conjoined very early in my journey, and all of that was preparation for meeting Dennis Lee, as a result of my second and so far last desperate prayer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

Getting the strings pulled on me in that otherworldly way was a mixed blessing. I had several other spectacular events/manipulations that challenged and rewarded me along the way. Something was testing me, and I think it was for a worthy cause and it had my best interests at heart, but sometimes I wonder. They are going to have to do some explaining when we finally meet.

When I met Dennis, the learning curve began to steepen insanely. Just as I was a seat-of-the-britches comprehensivist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

Dennis was a seat-of-the-britches industrialist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

Dennis was, in many ways, every bit as ingenious as Mr. Mentor was.

Technology, capitalism, industrial organization – these were all part of the early framework for my free energy and healing the planet pursuits. My mystical, academic, and business-world training were merely prerequisites. Many people, some close to me, think that the mystical aspect was the key. I did not come to see it that way. Some highly accomplished mystical initiates became involved in our venture, and they crumbled almost immediately. Personal integrity was the key ingredient for a successful journey, not a mystical orientation. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which I discovered the hard way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

Most mystical charlatans are men:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

and I regularly encounter the perspective that if we can just reach that lofty spiritual plane, then we can manifest our energy, food and so forth. The astral plane is like that, and “ascension” might be in our near future, but there are also the ideas of an evolutionary path through the physical plane, karma, and the lessons that we came to learn. Those who no longer need to eat have figured it out and do not need to concern themselves with earthly technology. They may be able to turn away assailants with a wave of their mystical hand, but even an “avatar” like Sathya Sai Baba has killer bodyguards. There probably are a few of those masters on the planet today, hiding out for reasons that only they know. For the rest of us, the realities of our physical world must be navigated. We are subject to gravity, hunger, aging, pain, death and the rest. That is part of the price of inhabiting physical reality. The future world that Michael Roads glimpsed has been one of the stars that I steer by:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

If I can, in some small way, help as many people manifest that future reality as are ready to, my journey in this life will have been richly worth it. If I even see us heading in that direction before I cash in my chips, then I will die a happy man (although, in my old age, I am slowly learning to relinquish my expectations).

Where does our energy come from? How do we use it? How do we preserve it? I have pursued those questions since my youth.

I doubt that the West is going become a bunch of levitators who can make the Great Pacific Garbage Patch magically disappear by simply focusing our loving awareness on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

at least not immediately. A key part of our collective lesson is learning to clean up our mess, and if we are going to do it, we are probably going to do it with technology, at least at first. When one studies molecular biology and the mechanisms of photosynthesis and respiration, it quickly becomes evident that biology is technology, and that evolution’s tale is one of biological adaptation to a changing environment. Life processes have terraformed earth and everything co-evolves, and that includes consciousness (which the materialistic models have failed to consider).

The relationship of my journey and writings to technology is not easily categorized. However, what became evident during my days with Dennis was that technology really was not the issue, not for why we don’t have any alternative energy of significance on the world market. Brian says it:

http://www.brianoleary.info/TheTurquoiseRevolution.pdf

and so do I: the issues of the primitive, polluting and destructive technologies that dominate the energy and other industries are paradoxically not about technology, but reflect social issues; or perhaps stated more specifically, the issues are primarily those of integrity and sentience. We need to grow beyond our egocentric awareness if we are going to save our collective bacon.

That stated, I will now present my perspective on the technology issue, to answer some replies to my initial posts.

Relatively recently, I was asked to review the manuscript of a scientist who, among other things, worked with hundreds of Soviet Bloc scientists who came to the West after the Soviet Union dissolved twenty years ago. They brought along literally hundreds of exotic materials and technologies from the “black” side of Soviet science and technology. The “white” side is what you find in textbooks and on the market. The “black” side makes the scientific texts look like cave drawings, and makes the technology on the market look about as sophisticated as a caveman’s club. The man worked with those Soviet Bloc scientists and evaluated more than a hundred exotic materials and technologies – innovations that would make most of our current industries obsolete. To my knowledge, not one of them came to market. That final scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark might even understate the reality of how much incredible technology is hidden away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#raiders

Inside the black labs, the light fantastic is regularly tripped. However, the really good stuff is not found in government labs. Private interests have the golden hoard, not the world’s governments. The breakthrough technologies that the governments might develop or obtain eventually passes out the back door to the private interests. That is what Steven Greer discovered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#greer

When Dennis was offered a billion dollars to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

the offer was made by a CIA man who said that he represented private interests. Wall Street has run the CIA since the beginning:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#donovan

What my buddy saw in that underground setting:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#underground

was almost certainly from the private hoard, not the governmental one. The private interests use the world’s governments, just like they use any tool. Every time the sledgehammer came down on us or was brandished, it was wielded by government officials, but always at the behest of private interests:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#private

And you have never heard of those private interests, not those at the tippity top. The Bilderbergers, CFR, Bohemian Grove, Davos folks, Club of Rome and other “retail” elite organizations are down the food chain from the people who really run the show. There is no office to organize a protest at, no publicly-known entity to negotiate with, etc. Complaint-based efforts are worse than worthless in this milieu. Young Warriors who think that coercion and violence will work are the weak links, not a source of strength:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

Again, love is the answer and always has been:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

On the issue of technology, inventors like Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

and Adam Trombly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

had the goods and paid dearly for their efforts to bring their technologies to the public. I will never forget the awe in Mr. Advisor’s voice as he described how Sparky’s device went into overdrive as it began cranking out energy, as ice formed on it (Mr. Advisor said that orthodox theory would have predicted that the device would short out in a shower of sparks, not go into overdrive). When Sparky told Mr. Advisor that his troubles began after mailing working prototypes to several of the big energy institutions, and fully expecting to get a ticker-tape parade in the near future, Mr. Advisor exclaimed, “Come on Sparky, you can’t be that naïve!”

When Trombly spoke at the United Nations and then demonstrated his homopolar device in action, his life soon became like, in his words, a bad spy novel. I have privately heard about what Trombly survived, and it makes The Bourne Identity seem like a child’s game. Confiscating more than $20 million of Adam’s research equipment was merely the first salvo. I recently heard about an effort that might bring Adam’s story, and the few others like him, to the public. I would wait in line for that show.

The Global Controllers have an impressive surveillance apparatus to keep free energy and related technology under wraps. When one of my fellow travelers invented a free energy prototype in the basement of a nuclear research facility:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#traveler

he found out the hard way what kind of vigilance is brought to bear on the issue. The $100 billion in quiet money that has been paid out over the past couple of generations:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

is probably a minor part of their bag of tricks, but as an early line of defense, I’ll bet it has neutralized more than 95% of the “threats” that got that far along the development path.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph

The vast majority of efforts never get that far along; most are non-starters, self-destruct, are destroyed by their allies as greed prevails, etc. I have never met an altruistic inventor. When I have mentioned that to my fellow free energy travelers, many who have been high profile for many years, they reply that they may have met one or two in all of their years on the front lines.

What Sparky stumbled into during his magnetics research has been refined to the thirtieth generation in the above-top-secret world. Sparky’s prototypes sometimes worked great, but sometimes they just stopped working and he never figured out why. His technology was a long way from being mass produced and put on everybody’s homes.

So, for nophophet’s desired scenario to play out, somebody like Sparky would have to have many millions of dollars in hand to do the R&D to refine the physics, work out the technological kinks, and make it foolproof. Then he would have to get the plans into the hands of people who could play the DIY game. Producing Sparky’s device for home use I think is more for someplace like Intel’s chip factories, not garages and workshops. I think that it is a lot harder than it looks. Also, there is probably a radionics aspect, where the consciousness of the “inventor” is involved. The Zero Point Field may be divine, and one reason why devices that tap into it are so elusive is that the inventor’s heart has to be in the right place or he will never leave the starting gate. That might be a fail-safe that the Creator put in place.

But, somebody like Sparky would come onto the Global Controllers’ radar when his first prototype generated its first kilowatt. He would have to reject the increasing bribes, survive the escalating interference, and get it into the right hands. Talk about threading the needle. A lone wolf inventor does not have a prayer in that scenario. Anybody who thinks that they can run below the Global Controllers’ radar is fantasizing like a teenager. I have had people tell me how to shield the FE device from the Global Controllers’ detectors, how to take it to foreign countries, etc. All such advice is uninformed and inexperienced. I strongly doubt that the approach of tinkering inventors, applying for patents, raising money, developing in “secret,” etc., has any chance in today’s environment.

Realistically, average people will begin to believe in free energy when working devices are delivered to their homes. Machiavelli’s observation is as relevant today as it was five hundred years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

There are no quick and easy answers, although newcomers regularly provide them after looking into it for a few minutes. That is probably the most consistent response that I have received over the long years, if people make it past denial: they give some “shoot-from-the-hip” solution, and if we just tried that one out, we would march right over the finish line. I’ll take The Muppet Movie ending:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

or the “Space Brothers” coming down to help:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

But I doubt that it is going to be that easy.

This is a conundrum like no other that I know of, and humanity’s future may hinge on its outcome. This is not subject material for quick and easy study. There is no gathering of saints to hand this problem to; there is only us. At this time, I think that the near-term outcome will probably be decided at the Global Controller level, as there is great dissention within those ranks these days:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#gc

However, even if tomorrow, General Electric announced a great “discovery,” and that a free energy device would be on the home market this year for $19.95, the fun would only begin. Nobody can solve our problems for us. Whole hearts and minds will be needed for the foreseeable future, where people unhook from their scarcity-based indoctrination:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and become truly sentient and loving beings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#done

If a free energy device was made publicly available tomorrow, the issues that my site addresses will probably become more relevant than ever. I would love to be wrong, but I highly doubt that a tinkerer revolution is the path to the finish line.

That may not be the answer that some want, but it is the only one I have at this time. This stuff is not easy. If it was, we would already have heaven on earth. My goal is to at least see this planet begin to head toward heaven-on-earth territory before my life is finished. I have been told that I helped melt down Atlantis many lives ago, by a source that I respect, and if that is true (and I have little doubt that it is not, and I may have been female in that life), then my journey in this life makes more sense.

To John B’s welcome post to this thread, yes, there are opportunities such as the Internet, which I am using to some effect. ;) Money and banking is an elaborately-contrived illusion that has almost nothing to do with the real economy. Money is a tool of what I call the egocentric economy. In the soul-centric economy, money does not exist. Yes, when people can have the experience of abundance, it will become thinkable, as Machiavelli observed. However, I think that one key for this transition is for people to imagine abundance before it actually manifests. Not many can do that, but those are whom I fish for these days.

I decided long ago to pursue the political-economic aspects of this conundrum, and I do not keep up on what inventors like Bedini are doing or the discoveries of scientists like dePalma. There are places on the Internet to keep up with that stuff, if people desire to

That may be all for this weekend. I need to attend to my daily life now.

Thanks for reading,

Wade

Luke

8th January 2011, 20:24

Again, it is great to see such contribution (and warm welcome)

As far as I see it, it all boils down to creating an environment, where free energy research is possible.
A space where enforcers cannot roam. Outside "Control System"'s interference.

Difficult, but it depends on people which create the space. A moral code that accepts abundance as principle is a start, but with understanding of all ramifications.
That such thing cannot be accomplished within current system/paradigm is understandment.

jeannacav

8th January 2011, 20:59

Thank you Wade. And, welcome.
And thank you Bill for bringing Wade to this forum.

It is true afaik.
Anyone working in the field of free energy must be careful to stop when still in the range of 'very efficient'.

nuf said

jeanna

Bill Ryan

9th January 2011, 18:11

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Many thanks, Wade - what a fabulous Smorgasbord that is. :)

Do dip into Wade's links, folks - don't pass them by. Plenty of the highest-quality reading to keep enquiring minds busy for quite a while.

Wade Frazier

9th January 2011, 18:23

Hi Eric:

I am happy that you got something out of my interview. About Stan Meyer, I probably do not know more than you do. I have not spoken to Dennis for years, but I saw on the Internet that Dennis teamed with Stan long ago, and tried to warn him about working with the government and big energy institutions. Greer has been trying to resurrect Meyer’s work for years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#meyer

As my previous post noted, I do not follow the inventing frontier of free energy much. Because of my position, I can’t help but be aware of the more prominent efforts, because I get bombarded with news about it. The only way that I know much about what Dennis is doing these days is when I get emails about the latest FTC attack:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

or about the TV show that he is going to be smeared on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#dateline

So, I hear about Steorn, Greer’s efforts, the latest big news from the New Energy Congress:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

and so on. However, and I think I have been making it clear in my work, especially for the past several years, the inventor’s route to free energy is probably a dead end. At least, for inventors trying to make money at it, trying to make a splash around a prototype, etc. The only prayer that I see for that route is for an inventor to give it to a worthy group. I have never met an inventor willing to give it away, and I have never encountered that worthy group. I applaud the Dennises, Greers and others for trying, but I am trying something different, that I hope can complement efforts such as theirs.

I think that the entire “we almost have a working prototype, stay tuned!” approach is a doomed one. I have been there, on more than one occasion. The problem is that nearly everybody who “tunes in” is watching for reasons other than selflessly trying to help make it happen. That approach attracts swarms of the self-interested, gawkers (who tune in when there is nothing much on TV that night) and others who are really no help, and are usually a huge liability to making it happen. The stampeding herd can easily trample you.

People who only pay attention to the free energy issue when somebody like a Dennis or Greer makes news are not going to help much. The vast majority of the population is scientifically illiterate and has only a dim understanding about how we all ride atop the energy situation, from the world’s richest to poorest nations, and for every civilization for all time. My upcoming essay is intended to help people understand the energy issue and its overwhelming importance.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

If we do not resolve our energy issues, and fast, the rest will not matter.

Brian O, Jeane Manning and other close-to-me fellow free energy travelers all remark on how lonely a journey it is, and how almost nobody on the planet is even thinking about the issue. It really is bizarre, and takes many years to wrap your head around it. What you can’t fail to notice, if you embark on the path, is the denial regarding free energy that comes from almost all corners. Somewhere in excess of 99% of the population is trapped in levels zero through three of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

For those who can get beyond unawareness and denial, almost all the rest obsesses about the “conspiratorial” aspect of the conundrum. The entrenched denial has at least ten times the collective effect that the organized suppression does (arguably a hundred times more), and the numbers are astounding.

Of the 6.9 billion people on the planet, those in unawareness and denial of free energy and its potential comprise more than 6.8 billion of them. Of the less than 100 million that have some passing awareness and acceptance of at least some aspects of the conundrum (tens of millions of Americans at least have heard of Dennis), 99% of them are either in fear of free energy, obsess on the “conspiratorial” aspects of the conundrum, or have other unproductive reactions. Those with more than passing awareness may be the last people that I can reach, because they are dug in somehow to their perspective. The organized suppression is probably carried out by a few thousand people at most.

When somebody like Dennis comes onto their radar, they really don’t have to work all that hard. If somebody like Dennis even survives the greedy plays made by his “allies,” the local energy interests will eviscerate the effort and the Global Controllers don’t have to lift a finger.

Dennis survived in the shark tank of American capitalism for several years, having his companies stolen several times, sometimes by the mafia:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#mafia2

before he got to where the local energy interests felt threatened. The organized suppression that happened in Seattle in 1984-1986 I believe was almost entirely orchestrated by the local electric interests, led by the BPA.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

Bill the Hit Man worked for them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

when he did his dirty work. Bill may have been a Global Controller asset that they “loaned” to the Washington electric interests to help wipe Dennis’s company out, but maybe not. However, for all the attacks on Dennis’s efforts in Seattle, the ones inspired by organized suppression may have been in second place in damage done to what was inflicted on Dennis by his greed-blinded “allies.” They waited until the local energy racket had Dennis in a headlock before making their moves. It was bewildering to see all the different plays being made in the final days of Dennis’s Seattle efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient2

and it was a seminal aspect of my awakening. When the dust settled, I was the only person, out of thousands who were involved in one way or another, who followed Dennis out to Boston to help him rebuild the effort:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

All of that mayhem happened with the Global Controllers hardly needing to lift a finger, if they lifted one at all. Oh, they watched the fireworks alright, because it was the biggest run ever made to bring alternative energy to the American market, but they just had to stand back, eat their popcorn, and let “nature” take its course.

They were most likely behind the $10 million offer that we were made in Boston:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

as their early stage response (initial friendly tactics, or typical carrot)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#responses

They were certainly behind the billion dollar offer a year later:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and they also likely influenced what happened in Ventura. However, once again, they really did not have to twist the knobs all that strenuously. The “Little Eichmanns” of the local power structure, such as the prosecutor who admitted that he did not care if Dennis was innocent or not:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

eagerly did the vast majority of the dirty work. Heck, the attacks from friends and family were by far the hardest thing for me to deal with, attacks that continue to this day, believe it or not, not the evil deeds of Mr. Deputy and friends:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#deputy

I doubt that many people can truly comprehend dynamics like those until they have some personal experience with something similar. Most whistleblowers are dismayed by the actions of their friends and family more than they are of the power structure’s activities in trying to destroy them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#whistleblower1

The enemy is us, not the Global Controllers. If we act like an easily-manipulated herd, only a few sheepdogs really need to be on the job. For the herd’s size, the Global Controllers’ task is surprisingly easy.

So, again, I am definitely not trying to attract the masses to my message, not at this time. I am looking for needles in haystacks. I am not looking for the heroes of free energy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

I strongly doubt that there are enough of them on the planet who are in a position to combine their efforts. Instead, I am looking for people who are about a hundred times as abundant (but still less than 1% of the general population), who can come to a somewhat comprehensive understanding of the energy issue and can imagine abundance.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

If a few thousand of us can begin to just understand what the real issues are, and refuse to disappear down all the rabbit holes that await (a comprehensive understanding may be key to avoiding the pitfalls http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing ), we may be able to make the difference. At least, that notion has guided my efforts for the past several years. It might be another foolish and misguided effort, to look for those needles and help educate them, but I have never seen anybody really try to do it, not the way that I am. So, I am doing it in my “spare” time. I think that I will be low enough on the radar that the Global Controllers will see me as a noisy nuisance at most, and will not bother to try to take me out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

I am looking to Bill and friends to help protect the conversation that I am mounting in this forum. Outside of this forum, the trolls and assailants swarm wherever I appear, and some like Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#places

and that prominent ATS troll:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll1

may well be professionals, while the rest are merely protecting their scarcity-based perspectives from the threat of abundance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

We will see how it goes.

Best wishes,

Wade

P.S. Thanks again for all of the welcoming responses. They help.

Eric

9th January 2011, 19:14

Wade

Thanks for the response and you are a most welcome addition to this forum indeed.
I have stans material that was posted by his brother, although like most I'm having trouble deciphering it.
Don't really know if its legit but you have to go with what you have.
The pulse tech is the sticking point ( not an electronics wizz )
thanks for the heads up on Steven Greer pursuing this very issue, nice to know, and again a ray of hope.

If you were to go through the haystack one stalk at a time the probability of finding the needle is 1

As for the onion I don't really know where I lie, the stuff is all in my head and never realized

The priority for me in a cold climate is to keep the house warm, for free if possible the rest would be history

your material is very extensive , let me get up to speed and I will hopefully be able to understand a lot more.

cheers

Eric

NancyV

9th January 2011, 19:34

Thank you, Wade, for all the fascinating writing you have shared on your website. I got hooked into reading for at least 5 hours so far! It looks like it will take weeks to get through all the stories.

I'm sure one of the most difficult things to learn is that friends and even family may betray or deride you. But it is a fact that we need to understand. Now you know what is arrayed against you and it's almost everyone. That's just the way it is but it can rock your world view.

It was great to read about your relationship with Brian O'Leary. I think he was the first one who got me really interested in new science and energy. I met him in Ashland, Oregon in around 1993-1994 as we had some of the same acquaintances and ended up at some of the same gatherings. My interests were physics and spirituality but I did get very interested in alternative energy and new science after talking with him several times and I have been excited about the subject ever since.

It's very good to have you here on Avalon and thank you so much for your extremely valuable and exciting writings!

Nancy :)

Wade Frazier

9th January 2011, 19:48

Thanks for reading, Eric. All I can say is that the Zero Point Field (ZPF) powers perhaps all of the free energy devices that I am aware of, and I do not know if Meyer’s technology is tapping into the ZPF or not. Again, there is a mountain of chaff amongst the kernels of free energy wheat. Here is a depressing thought for you, I am sorry to say. The Global Controllers have a zillion times the resources that people like you and I have, and they have ways of detecting if a device is truly tapping into the ZPF:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#traveler

I believe that anybody who comes up with something that actually taps the ZPF instantly comes onto the Global Controller’s radar. Then they are removed from the game, usually by the friendly buyout offer (or it can also be the deal that cannot be refused: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make, but one way or another, they will be neutralized).

So, once the Global Controllers get through raking out the kernels of wheat, about all that is left is the chaff. I strongly suspect that most, if not all, of the people that we see campaigning to promote their device that allegedly taps into the ZPF are either mistaken or a fraud. Being mistaken/deluded likely accounts for most of them – there are far fewer frauds in this field than you would think – the same goes for alternative medicine, and even charlatans like Paul Bragg http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bragg – I get more visitors to my site visiting my Paul Bragg essay (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/bragg.htm ) than any other these days) often have a legitimate message, even if they dishonestly promote it. So, about all that is out there today, making news, is the chaff of free energy. Again, that is not a fun realization.

Yes, self-interest is usually why people begin to take people like Dennis seriously (“I just want to reduce my energy bill!”), but having abundant and cheap household energy is truly only the tip of the iceberg:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

So, I’ll be here when you come up for air. ;)

Thanks again, Bill, for this opportunity. As you can tell, I am taking advantage of it. ;)

Thanks again for being out there. There are not many like you doing stuff like this, and if I don’t end up making my own forum, yours is about the only place on the Internet that I would even consider making a home for my voice.

I think that I put up enough to give serious readers something to chew on. My day job will be twelve hour days for the next two months, so I may not be very active in the near future, but we will see how it goes.

Best wishes,

Wade

Wade Frazier

9th January 2011, 19:57

Hi Nancy:

It has been an honor to be associated with Brian. He is great man, and there are very few like him out there. He once said it publicly, and I feel pretty much the same way: if we had any idea what we were getting into, we would have probably stayed in our soft berths in the corporate and academic worlds, made millions of dollars and retired at a young age to sip cognac. :) I think that is also true, however, for most parents. If we knew what we were really getting into just by being born here, we would have probably decided to keep hanging out on the astral plane. :)

Thanks for reading,

Wade

Anna

9th January 2011, 20:06

Ha Wade,

Thank you for sharing all your information, I have been reading for a couple of hours now.
I want to give you my respect because what stands out for me so far, is how you stand beside your friend in all these incredible tribulations and how you both are dealing with it.

Regards from Anna

Wade Frazier

9th January 2011, 21:53

Hi Anna:

My relationship with Dennis is a far longer story than I could ever write about, and there is a lot that I can’t write publicly about these days. I have been called Dennis's most loyal supporter by people (such as Mr. Skeptic) who want to portray me as something akin to a cult member. I am longer paddling the same canoe with Dennis, but our relationship goes beyond friendship. That voice led me to him, so there is a lot more to it than meets the eye, obviously.

Thanks for reading,

Wade

illuminate

9th January 2011, 22:28

Thanks again, Bill, for this opportunity. As you can tell, I am taking advantage of it. ;)

Thanks again for being out there. There are not many like you doing stuff like this, and if I don’t end up making my own forum, yours is about the only place on the Internet that I would even consider making a home for my voice.

Best wishes,

Wade

Wow... how cool is that!
Thanks again Wade for all your time, energy and contributions.

With such brilliant minds and pure hearts, like your self and everyone on this forum...
of course we can make this world a better place!

With Love!

gripreaper

10th January 2011, 02:11

I think that I put up enough to give serious readers something to chew on. My day job will be twelve hour days for the next two months, so I may not be very active in the near future, but we will see how it goes.

Best wishes,

Wade

Whew! That might give us some time to get up to speed! I'm very interested, but with the deluge of information coming down the pike these days (not just free energy stuff which I know way too little about) I'm having trouble keeping up.

I want to welcome you. I love your writing style and your very erudite commentary.

Mutchie

10th January 2011, 02:44

Welcome To Avalon Wade

I read your post with great interest , in this day and age with the damage we as a species have done to the mother earth already it saddens me to know & hear that free technologys are still being suppressed and Worse than that is the knowledge that many individuals have lost their lives trying to get this stuff out into the open.

Money & power are certainly the root of all evil, free technologys must scare the life out these people who crave power

Eric

10th January 2011, 03:02

Wade

I remember another whistleblower on PC saying the same thing about them knowing as soon as you tap in to the ZPF
total agreement on the tip of the iceberg
thanks again

Eric

Wade Frazier

10th January 2011, 03:33

Hi Illuminate:

Thanks. I meant it about Bill and this forum. My ideal was having a public, by-invitation-only conversation where everybody used their real names, but maybe I can back off of the real name part in a forum where Bill has my back. We will see how it goes. I have some pretty ambitious hopes for that conversation.

Hi Mutchie:

Yes, it is really horrifying that the dark ones in that power structure would choose destroying the planet over losing their power. It is not easy living with the knowledge of what could be, compared to what is.

Hi Eric:

Yes, those few of us in the free energy field who have abrasive, seat-of-the-britches experience know that there is no place to hide. You can’t sneak up on them, and playing the secrecy game plays right into their hands, in several ways that are not necessarily obvious.

Hi Gripreaper:

Thanks for reading. Yes, a lot is happening in the world, but, IMO, everybody should have some idea of how their world really works, and energy is the key ingredient that makes it all work. If we solve the energy issue, many seemingly intractable problems can simply evaporate (species extinctions, ecosystems damage, poverty, disease, and several other related issues), and the Star Trek existence starts to become feasible:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

Best wishes,

Wade

Jonathon

10th January 2011, 07:02

Hi Wade,

Just wanted to drop in and give a heart felt welcome and say thank you for being here. I've been so preoccupied with the Charles material that I haven't been able to take additional time to review your information yet. I do plan to soon, however. I'm very interested.

Wade Frazier

10th January 2011, 12:43

Hi Jonathon:

Thanks. Be warned that some have dipped their toe into the material on my site, disappeared, and were not seen again for months. When they returned from the depths, they were changed somehow. ;)

Good luck,

Wade

kinsuemei2

10th January 2011, 14:02

Hello Wade:

It is awesome to have you here on Avalon with us, I have a question, due to the healing qualities of, gold and diamonds and other precious rocks, minerals and metals, do you believe but us mining these minerals this could be taking vital nutrients out of the planet and possibly making it sick almost like a body?

Ben

Wade Frazier

10th January 2011, 16:19

Hi Ben:

I suppose that something like that is possible and may have indeed happened. Earth will heal, however, with or without us, and lessening our impact on her I would think would be an imperative. I regard Earth as a sentient being. However, when you begin to comprehend how vast Earth is compared to humanity, we are infinitesimally tiny. I am going to attach an image that I created a couple of years ago, to get a sense of the scale of life on Earth, compared to Earth’s mass (all of humanity comprises a tiny part of that green dot).

Brian O used to advocate mining asteroids:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary#Academic_Career

That is one way to spare Earth any invasive mining. However, and this is a key message of my work and upcoming essay, with free energy, all materials and elements become infinitely recyclable, in cradle-to-cradle fashion. Earth contains literally billions of tons per person. Energy scarcity is primarily why mining has been so destructive to Earth’s surface. With free energy and anti-gravity technology (which is also kept under wraps), mining a few asteroids would be easy, and only a few would provide most of what humanity would need, forever. Also, the ephemeralization trend that Bucky Fuller noticed and advocated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephemeralization

can make it so that our material needs, even while living in unprecedented abundance, would all be easily met with very little material. That future that Michael Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

was technologically advanced and obviously got their materials from Earth, but they did it lovingly and sentiently. If we turn the corner and become a heart-centered, truly sentient species, I think that we will easily find harmony with Mother Earth and have all the material goods that we could ever want. With love, we can have it all.

I can easily envision something like an element bank where all of the elements are stored in their pure states (or maybe combined into some more stable compounds, to be reconstituted however and whenever we want), and anybody who wants to can tap it. Star Trek’s replicator technology is not far off, and may already exist in the black world. Heck, Earth could be dotted with hundreds or thousands of such banks.

One thing is virtually certain; with free energy, large cities would be at thing of the past, and even Manhattan, Hong Kong and Tokyo could be remediated back into forest, and the materials taken from those cities could become part of the element banks (as would all of our roads, etc.) There may already be more material than is needed that has already been mined to provide all humans with material abundance, and if we wanted a little more, an asteroid or a gentle, deep earth mine could get the rest, and Mother Earth may not even notice it (but with free energy and the Sentience Revolution, we would first ask her and see what she says).

That stuff is not some New Agey fantasy. I am aware of literally hundreds, if not thousands, of “exotic” materials that are sequestered in the black world. Flubber is not all that fictional:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flubber_(film)

So, I appreciate your concern over the damage to Earth that mining creates, and humanity has definitely left deep scars on Earth’s surface and our crimes against each other and our fellow species are mind-boggling, but if we wisely implement free energy and related technologies, our technological journey can easily become symbiotic with all life and Mother Earth. Probably worth trying to wrap your head around, no? ;)

I have to go to work now, and my hurricane at work is now coming on shore. We will see how much time I have in the next couple of months to interact with this forum. Doing this forum stuff over the past couple of days has really inspired me to get that energy and humanity essay written. Time is wasting!

Best wishes,

Wade

manny

10th January 2011, 17:00

hello wade,
if i may i have two questions.
what are your thoughts on anti gravity.is it possible that they(the govererment )have conquered this area and are using this technolgy today.
Nikola Tesla was a inspiration to the world,but from what i can gather many of his ideas never surfaced.his work on wireless energy was stopped,i believe.
was mr tesla close to inventing free energy back in the day.
thank you

kinsuemei2

10th January 2011, 17:36

Thank you for both your input and reply, I find myself spending more and more time delving into your work and the more look into it, the more I do identify with it. I look forward to your post's over the coming months, this is a real treat and again I thank you.

Jonathon

10th January 2011, 19:22

Muzz

10th January 2011, 21:10

Hi Wade
Welcome to the forum and thanks for being part of the solution.
Muzz

Luke

10th January 2011, 22:12

The "bank" idea is great one. Having free energy, you can manipulate it at will.
Not to mention possibility of direct energy-> matter conversion.

Personally I am very much interested in creating living human habitats - homes that are symbiotic to human living in it, processing all the "waste" into useful products, adopting to needs (growing, creating specialized appendages etc.).
Not to mention that you do not need to build anything but a seed: design it, then provide nutrients. This would for all practical reasons eliminate the need for mass production, or so I think.

But of course such thing need far better understanding ecosystems, the causalities that rule ecosphere, that we are completely oblivious to.
Copy-pasting that passes for bioenginering today looks too much like shooting in the dark. Not to mention consequences of thoughtless meddling with systems vital to our living, we practically know very little about (In the terms on what Frank Herbert called "planetology")

Wade Frazier

11th January 2011, 05:12

Hi Manny:

On the anti-gravity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

But what my friend saw was probably demonstrated by a private operation, not any government. When the various governments kept attacking us, they always did it at the behest of private interests:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#private

I believe that a private, unaccountable power structure pulls the big strings, not the world’s governments. I think that Greer is right on that score:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

On Tesla, he was bad news for the rulers, ever since he irked J. P. Morgan with free energy talk:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla

Yes, he is one of the early suppressed pioneers of this stuff. He was one of the first, and far from the last, I am sorry to say.

Hi kinsuemei2 and Jonathon:

I’ll be here when you have questions.

Thanks for the welcome, Muzz.

Hi Luke:

Yes, with free energy, many, many currently unfeasible and even unimaginable solutions come onto the radar. Yes, the “white science” does not know what it is doing with its genetic “engineering” and so on, and that stuff that is happening in the “black science” world can be black indeed. Again, I look to how those in that reality that Roads visited approached it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

They had love and respect for the life forms, and asked them what they wanted. At some stage of that evolutionary path, the technology becomes alive, and further along the path, you are your own technology. Living dwellings probably fit in there, somehow.

I personally would be happy in this lifetime if I could simply experience humanity ceasing with the awesome destruction that we are inflicting on the planet and each other. I would like to walk that high technological path, to transition beyond it, at a leisurely pace and savor the experience. I would like to have at least a few lifetimes on the obviously ascending path, instead of times like these, where we are always hanging our posteriors over the cliff’s edge, hoping that we can hang on.

I have a theory that the short lifetimes in “primitive” societies (or, if you read the Michael material http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael , the younger soul ages almost always have short lifetimes) are mainly because the suffering is so great and continual that the soul has had about all that it can take in a few years, before it needs to take an astral plane break. When life is truly good, then five hundred year lifetimes become “normal.”

Best,

Wade

Eric

12th January 2011, 03:03

Wade

on the "abundance" thread, what's your take on movements like Peter Joseph's Zeitgeist movement and Jacque Fresco's Venus project?

Eric

Carmody

12th January 2011, 04:06

Hellow wade. I suspect you are familiar with the works of Kozyrev.

When you speak on the idea of there being a method of detecting the use of 'scalar' energies, I believe that point.

However, it may be possible to shield that energy, with a sealed 'Faraday cage'-like set up, made of aluminum. Basically a room made of aluminum.

Any comments?

Wade Frazier

12th January 2011, 04:10

Hi Eric:

Boy, I almost don’t want to respond to assessing what others are doing, other than to note that I have yet to see any movement toward abundance that I thought had a prayer. All I will say is this: one of my very close and high profile FE fellow travelers had a meeting not long ago with the Venus Project, and they were extremely hostile to the idea of free energy. I think that they got hung up on the “laws of physics” canard.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

The ego does that, thinking that it has the universe all figured out.

I believe that Zeitgeist is a related effort. Look at their literature:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/A-DesigningtheFutureE-BOOK-small.pdf

See anything about ZPE?

They are mired in layer 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

Almost all “progressive” activists are hung up in layers 2 and 3.

The bottom line is that real abundance will be based on economic abundance as its foundation, and that in turn is almost entirely dependent on energy abundance. If you look at Zeitgeist’s energy solutions, it is the usual suspects of windmills, biomass and other “solutions.” ZPE dwarfs all of them, and “dwarf” understates the situation. This is an example where free energy is not unimaginable to them, because they have been exposed to it. In their case, free energy is regarded as the enemy.

One possible future is that ZPE is not allowed to appear, but we go the windmill, biomass path, which certainly cannot support today’s humanity at an American level of lifestyle, so it is the scarcity decision once again: do we have a billion people living at a semi-industrial lifestyle, or do seven billion people ride bikes? I don’t even want to enter that conversation, but it is right down Heinberg’s alley:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg

Free energy technology exists, the universal chorus of denials aside, and I highly doubt that the future will play out the way that the windmill folks think it will.

Brian O’Leary has far more access to the scientific establishment than I ever will, rubbing shoulders with Nobel laureates and moon-walking astronauts, and it was educational to hear him talk about his several years of playing the Paul Revere of free energy, banging on every door that he could. Nobody is home, anywhere, as far as those who are in a place to marshal resources, make waves, etc. Again, you have to see it to believe it. Brian is still at it, trying to stir things up. I look at Dennis, Brian and the few like them with awe. Everybody I know of who has played at the high levels has survived at least one murder attempt (and some did not survive the experience). And the few great ones that I know and know of all consider their lives forfeit. The older ones take the attitude of, “I hope this body last a few more years, so I can keep trying.” The younger ones lay their lives on the line, time and again. They are better men than me. I had enough of that fun long ago. Those who can’t do, write. ;)

There is no inventor, there is no visible activist effort, no rich “angel” benefactor, no government, no nation, no corporation, nobody that I have seen or heard of, anywhere at any time, that had a chance to get over the finish line. Lone rangers can’t do it, inventors trying to protect their inventor’s rights can’t do it, capitalists can’t do it, and so on. It has to be a selfless group effort, but I have yet to see or hear of any group anywhere that had what it took. The yawning pitfalls are many:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

I do not know of a likely door, anywhere on the planet, that has not been knocked on at least once. That is why this is a conundrum like no other. It ain’t easy, but if enough of us care enough, that might help us get over the hump.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

12th January 2011, 04:28

Luke

12th January 2011, 07:11

Hello again!

re "Venus Project" and related "ideas" .. this is all matter of understanding how society works and what that means. If you come from standpoint of "fight" and "controll", all you will have is pyramid, with means of ensuring such control. Knowing Marxist foundation of VP, it is not surprising that it is internally focused on problem of control.. to which FE/ZPE is antithesis.

Personally, I found issue of morality to be closely tied to issue of technology. Basically - technology mirrors worldview of population, not the other way around! Thus in "pyramidal pattern (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3095-Society-Patterns)" society the control and compartmentalization patterns would be against any kind of personal technology, as it would invalidate the stratification that is the very heart of the system.

In order to personal energy to exist the circular/spherical pattern of equal communicating individuals must emerge.

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Current society relies on large infrastructures (roads, railways, electric grid to name a few) these need large bureaucraties to operate, and large corporations to service them. And they need matching funds. Now, they can either deal with each client or deal with "wholesale representative" that is "government".. Given that government itself matches any corporation, and has ability to extract any payment, the matter of cost is not such problem as is for individual man (rule is: every govt service cost twice as similar service purchased on open market). Anyway, it is natural for corporations and governments to form alliance against individual.
Every technology that threatens infrastructure endangers both corporations and government.
That is why real competition in areas of energy, communication, transport, justice/security and manufacturing is for all practical purposes either outlawed or made as hard as possible.
(example: there is cheap printed OLED technology, but it will not be phased in the general market before infrastructure needed for LCD technology pays off with "decent" profit. IP and knowhow are all owned by companies interested in maintaining status quo, patent law is enforced by government, banks will not fund "shady" deal; even if you have marketable idea you cannot put it on the market.)

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That said, going back to reading Wade's page .. it indeed could be months till I get the material read.. lots of shiny :)

Wade Frazier

12th January 2011, 15:31

Hi Luke:

That was some great insight. The rad left is Marxist, and for all of the insight of their works, they are trapped in layer 3.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

It took me a long, long time to finally figure them out.

The ZNet crowd, led by Michael Albert, is trying to coerce the elites into giving up their power. That is a Young Warrior stage of awareness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

and is wholly unsuited for a pursuit like this, and unsurprisingly to you, Albert and friends are Marxist. Albert even publicly stated that the only reason why he does not advocate violence to achieve his Marxist goals is that the State would win in a contest of violence. Nothing inherently wrong with violence in his perspective, but it is just a tactical error. I have seen other prominent Leftists say the same thing (shudder!). In his later years, Marx began to realize the futility of violent revolution. I am not sure if he thought so due to glimmers of enlightenment, or just that he had seen how badly the violent revolutions turned out.

I have been called a Marxist, although it was not until I began reading some of Marx’s work that I got an idea of why I was called that. I think that it is fine to seek to understand how things work, especially life processes, societies, and so on. The failings of the Marxist perspective I think are in large measure due to its materialism. Fuller was deeply into understanding the big picture, but he was not a materialist.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

His aperture was wide enough to allow enlightenment to come through. Corporations and governments, and in fact all human organizations, are operating under the principle of scarcity. I think that under a scarcity paradigm, self-interested behavior becomes nearly universal, and those needles in haystacks that don’t operate that way are attacked and vilified while alive, and after they are dead, often at the mob’s hands, they get sainted. The scarcity issue is arguably the key reason for why personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

And I respect those who say that it is the other way around; people’s lack of integrity is why we have a scarcity-based system. I believe that the conditions interact, dialectically – everything coevolves. That is why this is a conundrum:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#done

Best,

Wade

zenith

12th January 2011, 16:35

Hi Wade,

I'm working my way through your site, thank you very much.
I understand your 'onion' chart as representing the spectrum from ignorance of (free) energy,
to an experience of oneself as energy.
My question is what is our understanding of the dangers/risks to energy itself (us at that level)
when tapping into that energy (ZP) here.
Or indeed, are there any concerns (apart from the obvious [misuse,accident etc]) on our end?

Thanks again,

Peace

Wade Frazier

12th January 2011, 17:46

Hi Zenith:

Good question. Any technology can be misused and probably has been. Yes, this is partly why I am going about this the way that I am – very cautiously. If the majority of humanity wants to keep playing kill or be killed, then free energy is a very bad idea, because free energy, weaponized, could easily destroy the planet.

For instance, Young Warriors should not run the show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

They love killing the “bad guys,” – that very orientation guarantees them some very rough karma ahead. They are a danger to others and themselves, especially in the free energy arena, and the USA has tens of millions of Young Warriors in it.

I discuss the two primary objections that I see to free energy, if a person gets beyond denial of its possibility:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

But as Steve Greer says when fielding that objection, the worst elements of humanity already possess this technology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm#elements

When you begin unraveling the onion, many revelations attend the process, and you begin to suspect that something a lot more than meets the eye is happening. In practical and mystical ways, our collective integrity, or lack thereof, is why we do not have free energy today, and I think that it shows us quite clearly that we are not ready for it yet (but I hope that this idea is only slightly ahead of its time ;) ). I have shied away from efforts where warriors were pursuing this stuff, and some plan to jam free energy down humanity’s throat. That is not my style, and I think it is a misguided approach, on a few levels.

In the end, when we can amass enough collective integrity (love – and it is directly related to the level of sentience that we manifest), then we will demonstrate that we can handle free energy, and it will appear. My efforts have a few purposes; one is to test the waters, to see if any sizeable group wants to begin to wrap its mind and heart around an abundance-based reality; another is to help those who want to – it took a lifetime of a pretty rough journey to get to where I am today, and I want to help others get there a little easier (that may not be feasible, but I am trying). Perhaps the biggest problem is what nearly everybody is mired in their scarcity-based perspective,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and abundance is not only unimaginable, but it becomes a great threat to those who have carved out their niche in hell and truly do not want to budge. I am not looking to budge those who are dug in. They will only begin to understand when free energy and abundance is delivered to their home.

Not only is a loving approach the only one that I want to take, it is very likely the only one that will work.

Best,

Wade

Carmody

12th January 2011, 17:50

Hi Carmody:

No, I was not aware of Kozyrev. I just googled him. I am aware that many alternative theories proliferated back then. Tesla strongly disagreed with relativity, for instance, and proposed counter-theories to explain all the evidence in favor of relativity. Gee, I sure don’t know. I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy for about fifteen years. But, I really do not keep up on the latest free energy efforts, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. The problems of free energy have virtually nothing to do with technology.

On shielding ZPE devices from the Global Controller’s surveillance, there is no place to run and hide. You can’t sneak up on them. Anybody who thinks they can should have their will prepared and funeral plot picked out before they try sneaking. It scares me when people think that they can. When I used to engage the public years ago, the scariest correspondents were naïve engineers who needed to see a free energy machine for themselves before they would believe that free energy was possible, and if they did see one, they were going to run to Washington D.C. with it. I already have enough blood on my hands, and I will do whatever I can to discourage free energy tinkerers from thinking that they can secretly work in a lab and sneak up on them.

Best,

Wade

Your summary is a fair look at the situation, from my estimation and understanding.

However, the revelations about Aluminum, by Kozyrev, do indeed show that there may be potential for shielding such energies via the use of aluminum and possibly molecularly similar alloys. Or possibly even fields that have similar Atomic resonance/aetheric resonance/interference patterns. But then again, the corollary of this paragraph has a world of hurt in it --on it's own. Question begets the answer kinda thing.

I'm just putting the potential (electric universe groaner pun) on the table, is all. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying there is potential there. And no, for all the right reasons...I'm not looking to get into a debate on it and I suspect that you do not want to either.... :)

Your warning is similar to what I've told others: Be careful what you attempt to step into.

jeannacav

12th January 2011, 22:02

There is a large, global, open source, free energy movement.
It is filled with shills etc., of course.

The most important element I have seen in regard to safety etc, is that people must know how to make their own free energy machine themselves and then build it... also themselves.
Within this community, the information goes out quickly and globally and all those wanting to be involved, get into their workshops and tinker.
Many people also help those who ask.
Many get in the way of help, but sometimes even they help inadvertently.:cool:

I have not seen free energy yet.
(I did attend a technology event of Dennis Lee's in 1998.)

I have seen remarkably efficient things.
There are claims, to be sure, and maybe they are overunity, but that is not the reason for my post.

I encourage anybody who wants a free energy machine to study up and start somewhere.
The more 'almost' free energy machines we have made, the more informed we will be and the better prepared we all will be to understand the real deal.
Who knows? We might be able to create 'help studios' after the system has made its changes.

thank you,

jeanna

Wade Frazier

13th January 2011, 02:14

Hi Carmody:

Yes, I think you understand - I am going to do my best to not have this thread turn into a free energy physics discussion, or a "how to make a free energy device in your garage" discussion, or a "how to outsmart the Global Controllers" discussion, or the many rabbit holes that this conversation can disappear into. There are plenty of places on the Internet where people can engage in those conversations, and I wish them the best of luck with those endeavors. Be very careful is all the advice that I can give for those playing those games.

The conversation that I am trying to start here I have not seen tried before (I have tried elsewhere, and the naïve, the trolls, the self-interested and so forth swarmed, but with Bill's help, this may be a "sheltered" venue that can keep its vision high), and we will see how it goes. My writings are primarily about the political-economic dynamics of the situation and the barriers to comprehension that must be overcome if we are going to be productive. However, there is also a comprehensive nature to it that deals with science, consciousness and other areas, although I try to keep the discussion centered on the here and now, in physical reality. Here is where the power is, not someplace else.

This situation intimately affects every person on Earth, and in ways that are not always obvious.

Hi Jeanncav:

Good luck in your efforts,

Wade

bluestflame

13th January 2011, 02:17

solution oriented , and more focused on that , lettng go of distractions before we type them

Luke

13th January 2011, 09:19

(...) This situation intimately affects every person on Earth, and in ways that are not always obvious. (...)

There is this cliché "alternative" marking of "STS" and "STO" .. many people accuse others of being one, and all this typical bickering.
But there is point to make based on it.

Our whole civilization is build on premise you need to get your energy from elsewhere (outside oneself or "personal source" ) ... this is of course part of whole "zero sum game paradigm" Mr. Frazier writes about.

In order to create society that is not predatory towards it's members, the energy (food is energy) must be taken out of equation. There are of course matters of "land" and other "scarce resources" (like rare minerals OR manufacturing power), but access to "free' energy allows for greater expanding of possibilities.

But here you run into "crusader" problem- people with intact instincts and free power will turn to pillaging the other things they need.
(back to catch 22)

Thats why I think, one need to have simultaneous advancement in "moral paradigm" and 5 "material" sectors

(1)energy ("sources", food included)
(2)communication/transport (on a long run space manipulation comes here)
(3)peacemaking (conflict solving/contract law)
(4)health
(5)manufacturing (including energy-> matter, energy patterning)

Resulting effect would be breakaway civilization, parallel to what we experience today.

Yes, this is big.

Also, tinkering with garage does not cut it, as any attempt to put it 'out there' without other bases covered will result in current paradigm retaliation.
Just as Mr. Frazier writes :)

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One of the great "ironies" is that a very well known book (and vilified by many) - "Atlas Shrugged" - deals precisely with that: a readiness of the world for free energy .. thing missed by many that focus on literal "praise of capitalism" message.. (and glossed over by author herself)

The idea of "Galt's Gulch" where it found "home" is quite strong, IMO.
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Btw. I have not asked, can we call You "Wade" ?

zenith

13th January 2011, 16:21

In the end, when we can amass enough collective integrity (love – and it is directly related to the level of sentience that we manifest), then we will demonstrate that we can handle free energy, and it will appear.
Thanks Wade,

I guess then while it's possible for anyone to use free energy technology,
it probably goes without saying that it gets the green light from upstairs if
one has been in harmony with nature when creating and manifesting it.

I see what you mean about rabbit holes. :)

Peace

Wade Frazier

13th January 2011, 16:59

Hi Luke:

Yes, I am called Wade by those who know me, and I prefer Wade. Yes, this is a very comprehensive issue, and those other facets that you describe I also address in my work. I point out how they are all currently subservient to the scarcity paradigm.

Of course, I write about the energy industry, and also write about agribusiness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#agribusiness

communication (the mainstream Western media is mainly about mind control):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

transportation is related to the energy racket:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#transportation

Like Smedley Butler said, war is a racket:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#butler

Western “medicine” is a racket:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm

on the manufacturing angle, that would be a long discussion that I don’t get into in my site much, but I likely will in my upcoming essay. One of Dennis’s greatest talents was coming into a field where the technology was implemented at the craftsman level and industrializing it. Unlike the propaganda tries to make us believe, industrialization and capitalism are not inevitably conjoined. A factory environment is the only place where a computer chip, for instance, can be made. The evils of the factory environment largely had to do with exploiting the humans in them on behalf of the owners. It does not have to be that way.

My work aims for a personal paradigm shift in my readers, and then they can see where the gangsterism in energy, for instance, is simply part of a larger picture. Energy is the leverage point, however, which is why (as Bill said in my interview http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#stomped ) free energy activists get stomped on the hardest.

I may read Atlas Shrugged one day. We’ll see.

Hi Zenith:

Yes, I think there is a divine aspect to it, and until we get there, we can’t do it. It is a mystical aspect of the “personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity” issue. All significant free energy efforts have been derailed by pressure from the outside (the Global Controllers rarely have to get involved – the local interests and greedy outsiders end up doing most of the dirty work), combined with weakness from the inside. Been through a few rounds of that in my day. ;) Until we manifest enough collective personal integrity, we will not get over the free energy finish line. And until we manifest enough collective personal integrity, I am not sure that I want us to get over that finish line.

Yes, almost nobody keeps their eye on the ball, and gets spun up into all sorts of distractions. I have watched many people disappear down the rabbit holes, never to reappear. ;)

That is why I believe that a comprehensive perspective is key:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

It helps keep what is important in the front of your mind, and the rest can take a back seat.

Best,

Wade

Franny

14th January 2011, 03:39

Amazing website; thanks for several days of excellent reading material. The scope, let alone the breadth and depth of information and wisdom is astonishing. Much is familiar but to have it all on one website is incredible.

I read much and many subjects stand out.

One is familiar. Back in the 80s my brother developed a cancer on his arm near the elbow that he never noticed. His Dr told him to make an appt to have it removed.

Our uncle happened to be in town at that time. He worked in the Hoxsey clinic in Mexico, which you mentioned, as a chiropractor and hebalist. He gave my brother a bottle of the formula telling him how to use it externally and internally; telling him the cancer would fall off in 3-4 weeks if he did as he was told. It fell off right on schedule. He also told him to never mention it to his Dr and why, just let him believe it fell off of it's own accord - which he did when the Dr called trying to get him in for a procedure.

He told me at that time that they had approximately, if I remember correctly, an 85% cure rate for internal and a 95% cure rate for external cancers. Not bad. That caught my attention and I spent much time investigating herbal cures.

I had, by that time, managed to permanently loose a chronic kidney infection I picked up while in Greece by going on a vegan diet. AMA Drs could not help prevent it, and I asked several. Each time the infection flared up, I had to take bottles of antibiotics and 3 weeks off of work. I studied renal health and diet and decided my best bet was a vegan diet. I never had one again.

I have a dear, kind and generous friend that is a MD. He is a very intelligent man at the top of his specialty but thinks only within the AMA box. He has told me outright that only chemical medication and surgery works for all medical illnesses. He would not believe that my brother's cancer was helped by herbs, telling me flatly they are completely ineffective. That all vitamins and supplements are useless, that any alternate medical treatment is quackery and unsafe. Nor would he believe believe my diet was even a factor. Better living thru chemistry...

In a discussion I once brought up on Over Unity Energy and ZPE he dismissed both as junk science that violate the 1st Law of Thermodynamics so strongly that I was unable to bring up even the Bloom box which is used at UPS, Google and Ebay. I brought up fluoride and all the studies on it just to see what his reaction would be. He found it to be completely safe. When I pointed out the warning on the back of the toothpaste tube, he dismissed it.

He's a heavy consumer of aspartame laden soft drinks and would never consider researching it's safety. The FDA passed it so it has to be good and safe. The more he drinks, the bigger he gets.

It's just as difficult to discuss the above if not all the subjects you bring up on your site with most people; average, above average or quite intelligent, even when they are annoyingly obvious. They are easy to research, but exceptionally few will take the time to do so. I remember Herbert Spencer* at these moments. There are only three people I know that are aware of these things or will discuss them to some extent. I expect it's the same with everyone here, which is partly why we are here.

How does one even start the dialog? Is there any way to do it? Do you have a plan on how to do this?

Or are only a small number of people predisposed to being open or does the fluoride, programming and other forms of control take their toll and fry the brain? (Don't mean to be insulting here) It's frustrating so I have at least an idea of what you went through.

I have no idea how to talk to people about these subjects let alone garner support, tho I have tried with what I thought to be the most glaringly obvious and easily provable. It hasn't worked.

That said, what do you hope your involvement here could lead to in your goal of free energy -- and free planet earth? What do you think we as a group could accomplish and how would you go about doing it? You said on your website that if there had been just 100 backing you up, you and Dennis would have prevailed. Do you still think that's true?

* There is a principal which is proof against all information, which is proof against all argument, which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance; that principal is contempt prior to investigation. (I read this back in the early 80s and never forgot it. It's never been more true.)

Wade Frazier

14th January 2011, 05:14

Hi latte:

Thank you so much for reading and your kind reply. I was reading my medical racket essay just the other day, for the first time in a while. Most of the research for and writing of that essay took place in the 1990s, but as I look at it today, there is not one heck of a lot about it that I would change. I would like to rewrite it one day, but other essays are in more urgent need of work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/new.htm#work

As I am sure that you know, yours is the normal response of somebody who has lifted the hood on Western “medicine” and tried to engage others about it, even when you and those around you are living proof of the “impossible.” Yes, on these subjects, whether it is free energy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

alternative medicine or almost all of the subjects that my site addresses, you are not going to find too many receptive people, and for every person who gets an “aha” from the experience of encountering your information and insight, far more will ostracize you, attack you, etc. You may ask yourself if it is worth it to subject yourself to that abuse (and you are only trying to help!). You know all of this very well, and I am here to tell you that it is a universal condition of humanity at this time.

I suppose you know that that Spencer quote is here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm#spencer ;)

Yes, you are zeroing in on the conundrum. How do you start, how do you progress? I think it was George Carlin who said that the most powerful force in the universe was inertia. ;)

The good news is places like this exist in cyberspace. The bad news is that almost nobody around you is going to want to hear about it, at least right now.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#telling

I have seen careers end by advocating free energy in the workplace. This is dangerous stuff, and the biggest danger is what your friends and family can do to you. I kind of hide out in corporate America myself, as I continue to pick up the pieces of my life. I don’t talk about this with any of my blood relatives save one or two. The rest consider it someplace in outer space.

Yes, I think if a hundred heroes appeared and combined their efforts, the world could heal in a snap. I mean the kind of high level heroes that I only encountered a few times:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

But I no longer look for them, and am trying another tactic: seeing if I can get a thousand people or two to just imagine abundance. That might get some balls rolling, in practical and mystical ways.

Hey, I’ll take ET or ascended master help any day, but they certainly seem shy. ;)

I gave a friend an analogy the other day: the prison that we live in is scarcity; if we cannot even imagine that we can escape, we will never try.

I have a full evening schedule ahead of me, so I’ll sign off now, but let me finish by saying that you are a key member of my target audience. You may feel alone amongst the insane at times, but you are not alone, even though we are scattered. Bill and friends are making me feel very welcome here, and I think I’ll stay. I think that something will come of this, but who knows when and where. Please keep your awareness in the game that I am trying to initiate. It helps, and more than you or I can know.

All that we can do is persist. I probably can’t help myself from learning, growing, doing stuff like this forum. I look at people like Dennis, and his persistence boggles my mind.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#dateline

I think that a love of the truth is its own reward, but there might be some practical end to all of this. So happy to have met you here.

Wade

Wade Frazier

15th January 2011, 13:29

Hi all:

Yesterday, I was exchanging some email with a forum member, and he said that he was in level 8 of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

believing that the Global Controllers have it all locked up. I sympathize with that perspective, but I have never lived in that level, even during the nightmare years. I did not begin my alternative energy journey in the free energy pursuit. I began my journey in level 0, where I had no awareness of free energy. When I met Dennis, I was into energy conservation, with Mr. Mentor’s engine

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and Dennis’s heat pump:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

guiding my vision and activities. It was not until I chased Dennis out to Boston that I got the notion that free energy might be possible:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

While living with Dennis, under the influence of his incredibly strong personality, I lived in layer 10, playing the mass activist game. When the dust cleared in Ventura a couple of years later, I realized that the level of personal integrity in the general population was not high enough to pursue free energy that way. I have since lived in layer 12, believing that if enough people with the right stuff could be rounded up, free energy was possible. It was not until about 1990 that I began hearing about working free energy machines. Sparky Sweet’s might have been the first:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

Eventually, I heard of dramatic instances of free energy technology being demonstrated to people very close to me:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

Free energy technology is certainly real, and may be the greatest treasure in the golden hoard that is kept under wraps by the fractured cabal that runs the world.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

While I was finding out about the reality of free energy technology, how it is kept out of public awareness and use, and related dynamics, it was with growing amazement that I saw people who said they sought energy solutions quickly averting their eyes and stopping up their ears when I tried to enlighten them about free energy realities. I came by my dismay honestly, after trying about every avenue, group and “visionary” that I could think of, and hearing what fellow travelers had to say. It was mind-boggling. I really thought, back in 2003, that a prominent writer on free energy, Richard Heinberg, would be interested to hear from somebody who had been in the free energy trenches:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg

His dismissal was so quick and total that I was stunned. It was one of dozens of similar encounters, but at least Heinberg gave the impression of being somewhat aware of free energy efforts. I became disillusioned with the so-called environmentalists in the 1980s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

and it eventually became evident that every single group out there had some objection to free energy and was not interested in hearing about it, or had unproductive reactions such as paranoia, thinking that they could defeat the Global Controllers in “battle” (there is no street corner that I am aware of, where they hang out, looking to battle the Young Warriors), and so on.

The neo-Malthusian “visions” of people like Heinberg and Ruppert:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#ruppert

I found to be depressing and closed-minded. I had my brief dialogue with Heinberg at about the same time that I was digesting Bucky Fuller’s work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

Then the fog began lifting. I still sought fertile ground, interacting with some very high level activists, but still came up empty every time. Hearing from Brian O’Leary on his experiences of playing the Paul Revere of free energy was simply more sobering news on the free energy front:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#bringing

In light of all the misinformation, disinformation, “progressive” Neo-Malthusianism and the like, several years ago I wrote an essay on what abundance really is and what it looks like:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm

to help people see beyond the “let’s ride bikes,” let’s depopulate the planet,” “let’s make windmills,” and other “solutions” that are paraded about, particularly in “progressive” circles. That was perhaps the most enjoyable experience that I ever had in writing an essay. It is where I began my alternative energy journey and where I hope it ends. Dealing with all the dark aspects is no fun. However, when I saw the darkness being called the light:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bitter

I knew that mass reality was turned upside down, and wanted to help people escape the spell, because looking to the establishment, progressives, environmentalists, and other groups for solutions was to enter a cage and throw away the key.

With that preamble, I will present a brief vision of a day in the life of somebody living in abundance. The positive vision is what I want to emphasize, not all the lies and darkness that passes itself off as the truth and the light.

Positive visualizations are critical. I have spent most of my life imagining the positive potential outcomes of FE, but people must overcome the mental/emotional limitations that we are conditioned to accept before we can even leave the starting gate.

Friends have suggested more than once that the pure positive vision could work. My answer is “Yes, as long as people do not get tripped up by their naïveté and scarcity-based ideologies.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#crutch1

I wrote a brief essay on that subject several years ago:

http://www.serendipity.li/fe/minefields.htm

I am a nuts-and-bolts person, and not into dreamy, airy-fairy visions. However, imagining the outcome and not getting hung up on how it has to manifest, I think can be good “spiritual” advice.

So, if you are willing, let us imagine this…..

Imagine that your abode is in your ideal setting. Imagine that it is as large as you need it to be. It is made from substances that caused no loss of biological life to become the structure of your home. Imagine that it sits in complete harmony with the surrounding ecosystem. The water in your home is as pure as rainwater. If you want, you can have a pool of this water in your home, as warm as you wish it to be, for your enjoyment. The free energy device that powers your home keeps the water continually pure. Part of your home grows your food, food that is always alive. It is mostly fruit, and whatever fruit you wish it to be. You have growing rooms that can be as light, dark, wet, dry, hot or cold as you wish. If you want to do some cooking, everything that you need is at your disposal.

Every room in your home has perfect climate-control. When you leave your home, always because there is someplace that you want to go to, your craft takes you there swiftly, silently, and safely, and there is no exhaust from the craft, as it runs on free energy. Your home is made of substances that degrade very slowly in the environment (such as glass and stainless steel, for instance), so it almost never needs maintenance. Your home is entirely self-contained, and you can move it to anywhere in the world you want, anytime you want. You can meet your basic needs with less than an hour of “work” per day. The rest of your waking day is spent doing whatever you wish, be it exercise, study, mediation, playing, being entertained, making love, puttering around the house or engaging in efforts that involve and fulfill your community. Because you can travel the entire planet in little time, the members of your community might be as close as a hundred yards or as far as 12,000 miles away. Your community might be all of humanity, and may even include non-human life forms, including those on our planet or on the planets of our galactic and inter-dimensional neighbors, who often visit.

You live on a planet where everybody lives in peace and plenty. There is no want, and there is no hunger. There is abundance regarding our physical lives, but also there is emotional and mental abundance. Humanity’s intelligence, emotional depth and happiness are realized at levels that were incredible to behold in the early days of the transition, but everybody eventually came to realize that such is our natural state, and nobody desired anything less.

There is my initial vision. Free energy can catalyze that world into being, in my lifetime and even sooner. Together, we can make it happen. What do you think?

Wade

Dale

15th January 2011, 13:47

Imagine that your abode is in your ideal setting. Imagine that it is as large as you need it to be. It is made from substances that caused no loss of biological life to become the structure of your home. Imagine that it sits in complete harmony with the surrounding ecosystem. The water in your home is as pure as rainwater. If you want, you can have a pool of this water in your home, as warm as you wish it to be, for your enjoyment. The free energy device that powers your home keeps the water continually pure. Part of your home grows your food, food that is always alive. It is mostly fruit, and whatever fruit you wish it to be. You have growing rooms that can be as light, dark, wet, dry, hot or cold as you wish. If you want to do some cooking, everything that you need is at your disposal.

Every room in your home has perfect climate-control. When you leave your home, always because there is someplace that you want to go to, your craft takes you there swiftly, silently, and safely, and there is no exhaust from the craft, as it runs on free energy. Your home is made of substances that degrade very slowly in the environment (such as glass and stainless steel, for instance), so it almost never needs maintenance. Your home is entirely self-contained, and you can move it to anywhere in the world you want, anytime you want. You can meet your basic needs with less than an hour of “work” per day. The rest of your waking day is spent doing whatever you wish, be it exercise, study, mediation, playing, being entertained, making love, puttering around the house or engaging in efforts that involve and fulfill your community. Because you can travel the entire planet in little time, the members of your community might be as close as a hundred yards or as far as 12,000 miles away. Your community might be all of humanity, and may even include non-human life forms, including those on our planet or on the planets of our galactic and inter-dimensional neighbors, who often visit.

You live on a planet where everybody lives in peace and plenty. There is no want, and there is no hunger. There is abundance regarding our physical lives, but also there is emotional and mental abundance. Humanity’s intelligence, emotional depth and happiness are realized at levels that were incredible to behold in the early days of the transition, but everybody eventually came to realize that such is our natural state, and nobody desired anything less.

There is my initial vision. Free energy can catalyze that world into being, in my lifetime and even sooner. Together, we can make it happen. What do you think?

Absolutely wonderful.

The main aspect of such a vision is rooted in the struggle between independence and dependence. With a dependency on external means of support, one finds themselves in a world such as what we're experiencing now; whereas a life of independence, with the aid of personal free-energy devices, one no longer depends on an external system to such a great degree for their amenities.

Wade Frazier

15th January 2011, 13:50

Thank you, Dale. You got it.

NoTingles

15th January 2011, 13:58

Greetings and welcome Wade Frazier!

Like you, I have pondered the question: Why are we so confounded in the face of so much abundance which is all around us?" Since I was 16. I asked my father. He said, "Life here is not supposed to be easy"> or words to that effect. To understand him you have to realize where he comes from: Large Catholic Family, with Depression Era experience and too staunchly RC to believe a God of Wrath would provide for His children. I still remember that "discussion" was more like an ass chewing from a DI. He has since learned to soften his rhetoric, but still believes that only by the sweat of our brows will we ever have anything, and then after a life of abusing our bodies with hard labor in this prison (self inflicted), you die early and get your reward in heaven. At Christmas, I told him (and this was after studying what you've exposed in your writings) Dad, you were wrong- God is so much more wonderful than we could ever imagine. We just have to quit trying to put the Creator into a box (via "religion"), and learn to cooperate the way we have been designed." And he agreed with me!!!
I am praying that we haven't waited too long for this knowledge to start percolating in the consciousness of we the people of Earth.

Wade Frazier

15th January 2011, 14:04

Thanks NoTingles. That was inspiring to read. Yes, I am not sure that it is ever too late.

Wade

Eric

15th January 2011, 16:06

Wade

The reason I brought up the venus project and zeitgeist is because it appeared to me that the energy issue is key
yes they appear to have marxist foundations, although weren't we all socialists at one point or another on our journey to enlightenment, but if such movements
did realize the Free energy potential, the business of spreading the word would be a foregone conclusion.
I liked Lukes' comment about technology mirroring society and again if society embraced the concept the technology would indeed follow.
Peter joseph seems to spend most of his time fending off the marxist labelers and mr frescos' concept of the "Deep thought " computer controlling every aspect of the system
rang out alarm bells for me. But if the hearts in the right place things can be synergistic and ofcourse proof is always in the pudding.

came up for air after delving into the site wade and have a couple of musings , may be relavent .... may be not ;-)

Gold, silver and diamond play such a large role in the human psyche, does this have anything to do with ancient or modern knowledge of how to manipulate energy ?
( i'm thinking great pyramid etc )
The other question is a bit more subtle, in that do we ( or did we before manipulation etc ) have the materials within the human body to do such a thing.

This is such a great thread , enjoying it thoroughly

Eric

Eric

15th January 2011, 16:33

Hi all:

So, if you are willing, let us imagine this…..

Wade

Superb

Cheers Wade

Eric

Wade Frazier

15th January 2011, 17:17

Hi Eric:

Indeed, energy is the keystone of it all. What particularly impressed me with the Peak Oil crowd (Catton http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#catton , Heinberg and friends (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg ), and so on) was their understanding of how energy runs the world.

Scientists, for instance, are usually great at understanding that it all rides atop energy, and they often easily see through the fake financial economy to the real one. However, they also are often blinkered by their indoctrination into the “laws of physics” and other canards: (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular ). The system also encourages their naiveté ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive ). Yes, if only a few groups like the Venus Group woke up to the free energy reality and potential, this could become a downhill racer. But like Brian said in our interview (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#brian ), nearly everybody with any connection to the issue digs their heels to protect their interests in their scarcity-based niche. Abundance literally would end the world as they know it. The recent report that I heard of regarding the Venus Group was amazing. A key member of the Venus Group launched into a highly emotional and irrational tirade against the idea of free energy. The free energy activist that I know was afraid that the Venus Group member was going to have an aneurysm, his reaction was so violent.

One of the very first reactions by people who are introduced to the idea of free energy is looking for groups that are embracing it, looking for that fertile ground, telling their family and friends about it. That is the Square One level of understanding, and everybody gets to start there, and it is OK. It is natural to think that there are people out there who really care, who have a love of the truth and will pursue it wherever the trail leads. I began my journey that way. ;)

When you begin to sail in the waters, you see that 99.9% of the population is in complete denial, and groups like the Venus Group see free energy as the enemy. You probably have to see it to believe it. When I get scoffing reactions to my cautions (an almost universal reaction http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#python ), if they don’t scare the pants off of me by thinking that they can go slay the dragon on their lunch hour, I tell them to go get some experience in the milieu and come back, if they survive their adventures, and let me know how it went (I rarely hear back from them). When I meet the very few honest and real people in the milieu, they can recite to me the pitfalls that they experienced:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

and people like Adam Trombly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

can tell stories that trump mine by a long ways. I have been at this stuff for nearly my entire life, from the time that my gifts were recognized and I was groomed to be a Golden Boy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#johnson ). I am here to tell you that no group that I have ever seen or heard of remotely has to right stuff to take free energy over the finish line. There is no gathering of saints to give this to, no high-level activist group that is anywhere close to being productive, almost no group that is even beginning to glimpse beyond the scarcity-based niche that they have carved out for themselves. Pretty much everybody is dug in, to one degree or another. Again, reading Fuller’s work was a real eye-opener for me, as far as being able to articulate my own vision, and to put what I was seeing into an intelligible framework.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

We are all, even me, hooked on scarcity, to one degree or another, and we are fed egocentric, scarcity-based ideologies from about the time that we learn to walk:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Shedding ten thousand years of scarcity-based conditioning is not an easy task, and it is being enforced from all corners, especially by the Global Godzilla:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#godzilla

I am throwing my line into this forum and seeing what I can catch. I think that there is plenty of fertile ground here, and plenty that I can learn from its members. It was really nice to hear from latte (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=96643&viewfull=1#post96643 ), for instance (and there have been many worthy posts in this thread). Again, if a thousand people or two can begin to at least sing the abundance song in tune and in something resembling a chorus (not as a herd, but as sentient individuals coming together due to their unity of purpose), then I, for one, am going to start thinking that maybe we have something worthwhile shaping up.

It is easy to get overwhelmed by the implications of free energy. There is literally nothing like it that I know of, as far as catalyzing the next epoch of the human journey (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion ), and one that is a heck of a lot more fun than anything that our history has shown us so far. If enough of us can keep our eye on the ball, we may have a chance of doing something important in this field (and I am obviously understating the magnitude of what we can accomplish, but that is to help prevent our egos from trying to take over ;) ).

Yes, Eric, the “precious” metals and diamonds are likely at least partly some dim remembrance of the divine qualities of those materials. That would be a very long story (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest ) ;)

Bill’s introduction to my interview reproduced part of an email that I wrote as we were preparing for my interview, which was that all the hi-tech tricks in the golden hoard are but pale imitations of what the ETs have, and in the end, it is all insignificant compared to what spiritual masters can do. The “miracles” of Jesus can give you some idea of what I mean (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#jesus ). Yes, along the evolutionary curve, we become our own free energy machines. However, I think that, in the West, particularly, we are going to keep riding the technology horse that we are on for a while.

Those who no longer need to eat have figured it out and do not need to concern themselves with artificial technology; they are their own technology. For the rest of us who want to get on the upward evolutionary path, I think it may lead through that world that Roads briefly visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

That is the reality that I am doing my best to steer toward. Love and energy are the same thing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

and learning the energy lesson is part of learning the love lesson.

Glad that you liked my little “vision” post. There will be more like that. :)

Be well,

Wade

Luke

15th January 2011, 17:57

Carmody

15th January 2011, 18:42

One of my favorites little factoids I came across over the years, that helps reset people's minds on what is really what...is that John Logie Baird designed his 'television' (televisor) as a method to contact the spirit world. To communicate across the electromagnetic divide of the dimensions. And that he had a full color gamut HD (over 1000 lines of resolution) television standard fully ready to go into public use in 1945. This is an interesting tale, as an adjunct to all of these other considerations.

The spiritual side of Baird (as a core aim in his life) is never mentioned in the vast majority of writings on his works. Baird's work was an electro-mechanical flashing light system. Sounds a lot like cutting edge hypnotics, which take you to the doorstep of the works of Dolores Cannon and Dr. Michael Newton.

NoTingles

15th January 2011, 18:47

To Wade,

I was talking about this with a friend of mine who is a Network engineer replete with the MS certifications after his name, and his take on people like you is that you are quacks and scam artists. I didn't get into a heated exchange with him, because I would like to keep him as a friend, so I just asked him: Ah- so you think that the magnificent science of mankind has found ALL the answers regarding the physics of energy? You know what- he didn't say anything.

That was about a month and a half ago. He still hasn't. What's more, he keeps his conversations with me short, and business oriented. Unless I bring up Ubuntu, and then he warms up a little. I don't understand it, and I certainly didn't try to back him into a corner by asking him to think before he leaps to a conclusion like that. But what ever....

I have an idea rattling around in my head about a way to set up the environment that is conducive to the R&D leading up to formally establishing manufacturing facilities. I don't want to say much here about it, but, I will say that it is the path to the future. Continuing to follow the already failed globalist corporate agenda has no future in it.

Beren

15th January 2011, 20:07

If I may add something:

Imagine, how to describe 747 to a caveman. You can go with shape and colour, and describe it fly, but you cannot say how it operates. There are no words in the other person's vocabulary that describe needed processes.

Way I see it, the "gold" and "diamonds" fixation has all the hallmarks of "Cargo Cult (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult)" .

Same goes with "Free energy" problem- you say the words, but the other person does not see the meaning behind it (or refuses to do so)
Indeed the fully tapped FE potential would give capabilities that can only be described as "magic" ...

Or one could risk naming it "Technomagic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technomage)" ?

Exactly!!!

That is the point right on!
And we find that examples everywhere in the old literature. Bible is loaded with it but due to religious ignorance and illiteracy people still think of it as nothing -of-value -for-today kind of book.

Recently when watching trailer for movie Thor I caught one sentence which made me think more: Thor explaining to a woman from Earth: " Your ancestors called it magic and now you call it science- in m world they are one and the same."

This is THE story of the past events all around the Earth. Tech used that we currently do not understand or if we do ,90% of the people do not.
Just try to explain to your grandma what is nuclear explosion...

Probably even we wouldn`t know how to present it or understand it...

Wade Frazier

15th January 2011, 21:24

I have some time this weekend.

OK, Eric and Luke, I am going to go there on the “precious” substances subject a little. If it starts going down that rabbit hole, I will recommend that we start another thread for that stuff, but here goes.

Although I am keenly aware of the limitations of “white” science, I respect many of its findings. I think that when it hews strictly to the materialist orientation, its findings will be limited, but that is how it is supposed to be:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#heisenberg

When people like Carl Sagan play priest, today’s science falls off the rails:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

and I know that it goes astray in many other ways. However, within the framework of its limitations, I have a great deal of respect for the orthodox perspective in many areas. What follows will hew towards the orthodox perspective, for at least most of it. :)

When stars far larger than our sun eventually die, the process of collapse is what gives rise to all of the heavy elements, including gold and silver, through virtually unimaginable pressures that fuse those large atoms. Carbon, which diamonds are comprised of, is a garden-variety element, star-wise. Geological pressures create diamonds, which are impressive in their own right, but are infinitesimal when compared to the pressures that created the heavy elements.

Gold, silver and copper are all in the same elemental family. They are all fairly unreactive, so they don’t readily form compounds, which is why they can be found in a relatively pure state in nuggets. Copper is thought to be the first worked metal:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#bronze

and originally was just pounded nuggets, before humans learned to smelt metals. Gold and silver are too soft for metallurgy, so their only practical uses in the early days of civilization were in art and, because of their scarcity, currency. Money is an abstract concept, but is the basis for what I call the egocentric economy. Money is only an accounting tool, but as a means of exchange, its scarcity has always inspired efforts to mine it, so that those who mined it would have a claim on the real economic production of others (always energy-based).

In the Old World, Egypt is considered the first place where monumental architecture and gold mining, on a large scale, took place. That is because the Nile delta provided the Old World’s most reliable food (AKA “energy”) supply, and the resulting sedentary population could be dominated and herded into supporting state religions and their related monumental architecture, and in those early hierarchical societies (the original kleptocracies http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#brief ), people became expendable commodities. Countless people were worked to death in the Nubian mines that provided the funerary gold that graced Tutankhamen’s crypt, for instance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#egypt

When Rome rose, it also adopted the logic of expendable humans, and millions of people died in the arenas and mines of the Roman Empire.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#rome

The Iberian Peninsula was where a great deal of the Roman mining activities took place, but when the Western Roman Empire collapsed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#babylonia

mining largely ceased in Western Europe for the next thousand years. When the Iberian Peninsula’s hordes began conquering the world, beginning in the 1400s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#first

they quickly revived the Roman mining practices, and millions of the Western Hemisphere’s natives died in the gold and silver mines:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

In the big picture, the Spanish gold rush was merely a counterfeiting operation

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#smith

and it contributed to the bankruptcy of the Spanish Empire:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#bankrupt

That did not keep the other European rivals from seeking gold, such as the English:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jamestown

Carl Sauer noted that the Spanish gold rush was an exercise in human stupidity above all else:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#carl

I would rank the evil of killing off millions of people in the name of greed above the stupidity of the Spanish enterprise, but I understand Carl’s point. The “settling” of the USA was punctuated early and often by gold rushes, including the one that led to the American invasion of California:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#goldrush

The historic drive for gold has usually been about greed, as people sought short-sighted economic gain by sponging off of others. I am not sure that living off the backs of others, especially during the historical phase of European global hegemony (the past 500 years or so) can be considered a cargo cult, but I can see Luke’s point.

I also understand Luke’s point of the issue of incomprehension of the reality behind the words and images. In fact, that is probably the story of my life. :) I can also see where the ZPF can be considered “magic” in a world that denies that such a field exists (or can be successfully tapped). This kind of segues into NoTingles’s post….

The scientifically-trained are about the last people to talk about free energy with. Nobody is home there, and their naïveté and irrationality might be the most amazing aspect of their collective denial:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#naive

I would not waste my time on them if it was me, but that is your choice. I certainly have no interest in engaging them. Setting up an environment conducive to developing free energy technology, or making it, is all about the level of integrity of those involved. There really is no “plan” that will work in today’s environment:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#plans

Back to the gold, silver and diamond issue for a moment – to Eric’s comment….

I think that the greed that infects all gold rushes is only part of the picture. Heck, the guy who kicked off the genocide of the Western Hemisphere’s natives, Columbus, literally thought that gold was the ticket to heaven:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#ticket

So, yes, I think it is arguable that the gold rushers also may have been groping toward some dim understanding of the spiritual aspect of their obsession. That is a long, mystical conversation that I am not going to have today, but I will give your notion a nod. Mystics of various persuasions have called gold a sacred metal. Edgar Cayce channeled on the spiritual aspect of gold, and even prescribed gold in medicinal treatment (and they use it today in Western “medicine,” but I would not put gold in my body – it is a heavy metal, and heavy metals have toxic effects, to put it mildly).

Hi Carmody:

Ah yes, the aspects of the legacies of many famous people that do not jibe with the goals of the official story are minimized. If I learned anything from my study of history, it was that.

Back to Luke and Beren’s observation about technology and the masses, yes, that is a big part of the problem. Perhaps the primary reason for my upcoming energy essay is to help non-scientists comprehend the energy issue, at least to the degree where they understand how it is the name of the game in the human journey and always has been:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

We have to get a lot smarter if we are going to save our collective bacon. Scientific illiteracy is a huge problem, and the systematic dumbing down of the population is a big part of it.

On a related note, in one of my old UFO tapes, a couple of scientists discussed the typical landing on the White House lawn situation, but gave it a twist. They said to imagine that a modern day military plane (a B-2, let’s say) landed on the White House lawn….in 1865. Heavier-than-air flight was still a couple of generations in the future. Aluminum would not be commercially refined until a generation later. Plastics did not exist yet. Electronics did not yet exist, nor did computers. The pilot, in his flight suit, would have looked like an extra-terrestrial (! :) ). Almost nothing about that plane would have been comprehensible to those people, who lived on the cutting edge of the day’s technology, just having prevailed over breakaway provinces by using their industrial capacity to win a war of grinding attrition. So, imagine ET cultures that are merely a few million years further along the technological curve than we are. As Arthur C. Clarke once said, any technology that was sufficiently advanced over ours would look like magic. I get it.

Biology is technology, and stone tools, harnessing fire and other technological advances led to the human species. Nobody can avoid the technology issue, not in our arguably sentient, tool-making species.

Best,

Wade

Dale

16th January 2011, 01:40

Wade,

A quick question. I've had a strong interest in the topic of free energy from a rather young age. Though I am not well-equipped in the physics or mechanics of these devices, I do enjoy studying the societal implications of introducing such technology to a general populace.

Recently in research, I stumbled upon a few articles based on several, Russian scientists' work regarding a force termed "torsion fields." What is your take on such a concept?

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 03:38

Hi Dale:

In Jeane Manning and Joe Garbon’s Breakthrough Power, on page 123, is a list of the thirty terms that Jeane has collected over the years that have been used to describe what is probably the same phenomenon, which is, in essence, the ZPF. The torsion field is not on that list, but arguably should be:

http://changingpower.net/articles/grassroots-push-for-new-energy/

The bottom line is that the ZPF spins, and people like Schauberger were describing its rotational nature with his “vortex” description. Think of the electron’s motion in the atom to get an idea of the ZPF. I am not a physicist, but have encountered a bunch of them over the years, and it is obvious that quantum mechanics has plenty of room in it for the ZPF. Einstein had a big problem with the strange nature of quantum mechanics, and figured that it would fall by the wayside in its current incarnation when we knew more. Two of my favorite quotes on quantum mechanics are Richard Feynman’s, “It is safe to say that nobody understands quantum mechanics;” and John Wheeler’s, “If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it.” :)

Just look at those quotes by Schroedinger and Bohr, who helped invent quantum physics:

http://phys.wordpress.com/2006/06/09/quantum-mechanical-quotes/

Yeah, I do not want to make this a free energy physics thread (although if there is enough interest, somebody can create one at Avalon, but I doubt that I would participate in it much), but I’ll say that nearly all of the free energy technologies that I am aware of are tapping into that field, harvesting its motion. A discussion of free energy physics quickly gets into the craziness of quantum theory, and I will not be leading that kind of conversation. Brian O’Leary realized early on in his free energy activism that discussing the physics was a loser for almost all audiences, and maybe especially with scientists and the technically trained. Brian has tried to lend his gravitas and experience into making free energy scientifically respectable, and I’ll never have his lofty credentials. However, Brian has one of those permanent hairdos that was created by the wind of all the doors slamming in his face.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#bringing

As Bill said in our interview, Brian knows everybody. That is not much of an exaggeration. When he was in Princeton's Physics Department, his fellow professors numbered something like five or six Nobel Laureates. As you can see in that first interview that Brian did with Camelot:

http://projectcamelot.org/brian_o_leary.html

he said that they would get together each week for social hour, and all they all did was ridicule anything that didn’t fit into their rationalist-materialistic paradigm. Brian felt uneasy about it, and that was before he had his mystical awakening. After he left Princeton, Brian helped Buzz Aldrin get a job and shared an office with him. Brian is not a name-dropper by nature, but when privately discussing these issues, he will talk about how some chair of a world-renowned physics department, whom he once studied under, would go into a semi-rage is he declared something like ZPE “impossible,” or how a famous atmospheric science colleague had sold his soul to the hydrocarbon lobby, or how one of the leading environmentalist names reacted to Brian’s suggestion that free energy might be possible as if Brian had personally attacked him, or how another huge name in the “alternative” energy community was very cool to the idea of free energy (and I am very familiar with that scientist’s work, and all he does is advocate windmills, wringing more energy out of that gallon of gasoline, etc.). In the scientific establishment, nobody is home.

Greer has had that same reaction plenty of times during his activism, but once the attacker’s colleagues told Greer what the attacker’s real motivation was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#rubbish

When the California governor’s energy advisors tried to run us out of town back when Enron was raping him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#sacramento

it was incredible to witness (it became a famous event). So, trying to engage the scientific community on the free energy issue is a non-starter, especially for somebody like me. I know that the technologies that harness the ZPF are many and spectacular, from Sparky Sweet’s stuff (if you take that link, you eventually get to the paper that Sparky wrote to describe the physics of his device, and you can get footage from Bearden of it in action, and there is some on the Internet (Sparky’s stuff was probably the Casimir effect on steroids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjSXjCOqYo )):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

to what my pal saw in the underground setting:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

But you and I will not be invited to such demonstrations, and I don’t even want to attend something like that (it can hazardous to your health to snoop around in that stuff).

Brian brings his scientific heavyweight’s credentials to the issue, and I bring the seat-of-the-britches experiences of me and those close to me. We have joined our efforts together on and off over the years, and it is a good team. My Bucky-like writings and archival nerdishness complements Brian’s man-of-the-people persona. For instance, I wrote the “Big Picture” part of that DOE proposal, as well as part of the “Further Obstacles and Opportunities” part.

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

I only did that because Brian asked me to. I doubt that the DOE is going to come to the free energy rescue. :)

I have encountered the DOE a number of times over the years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

and that is a big dead end.

Again, I am taking a particular approach to the free energy issue that I have never really seen anybody do before, and we will see how it goes. Keeping my planned conversation from disappearing into all the many rabbit holes might be my greatest challenge. Garage tinkering, Indiana Jones-ing, P.T. Barnum-ing, raising money, going to market, creating inventors’ “sanctuaries,” beseeching the government, knocking on corporate front doors, talking free energy physics, and so on, is all territory that I have trod before, and I am not really all that interested in that stuff anymore. You have to choose your battles.

I hope that is enough for you for now. :)

Wade

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 03:52

Hi Dale: I am going to add an anecdote that you might find interesting. The story of my days with Dennis has not been publicly told yet, not really. My site hints at a lot that I have never written publicly about, to protect people, but one story is harmless and interesting.

When we were in Ventura, I talked with a man who had some “disruptive” technology that the U.S. government seized for “national security” reasons (a very common event in this field), and when he was in his twenties, he had reason to call Princeton's Physics Department. This was in the early 1950s, I believe. The phone rang, and some old man with a thick German accent answered it with, “This is Albert.” It was Einstein. Imagine that. :) The conversation quickly waxed quasi-mystical, where Einstein discussed his amazement at our universe’s incredible mysteriousness. They guy said that Einstein seemed to almost be wandering amongst the stars during their conversation. That is consistent with what I have read about him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#einstein

Best,

Wade

witchy1

16th January 2011, 11:11

Hi Wade thank you so much for joining us here at Avalon. If I may wander off from the current topic for a minute? i gravitate towards the health area and have just finished reading and absorbing the material here on Gaston Naessen: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens. What a fabulous article. I try to follow all things pleomorphic / chromatids / somatids /protids etc including Gaston Naesens. My searching led me to the work of George Merkyl (most current article here) http://www.sun-nation.org/merkl-dr-george-merkl.html and original article that sparked my interest here http://www.rexresearch.com/merkl/merkl.htm who developed life crystals and if one searchs more into it, he was able to create lifeforms.

A bit about this man: Dr George Merkl Ph.D, PhD, a Nuclear Physicist & Microbiologist. 1930 - 2004. He is listed in "Who's Who Among Pioneers in Science Today" and holds several awards in Physics and Biology. He has over 400 patents to his name on his discoveries and inventions, many of which were immediately classified as top secret by the National Security Agency due to their applicability in defense-critical areas. I started a thread here
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8373-Tiniest-life-form-Somatids&highlight=chondrianas that provides a bit more about him

"Life Crystals provide concentrated ATP and GTP in the purest form, with "the penta carbon sugars providing the four basic building blocks of life in pure form." When light passes through these Life Crystals, they emerge polarized, and it is this polarized light that sets the stage for the evolution of life!.............. "

There is much much more to the story as you can imagine. I sounds a bit like the work of Nassim Haramein uses some of Georges physics

Would you have come across George and his work in your travels? and if so would you have any more recent information about where his work on life crystals and chromatids went, I suspect they are called something else today however. I have been unable to find forums or other places to discuss his work.

Thanks in anticipation
Witchy

Luke

16th January 2011, 12:28

(...)They guy said that Einstein seemed to almost be wandering amongst the stars during their conversation. That is consistent with what I have read about him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#einstein
(...)
The thing that is consistent about both Tesla and Einstein, is that at one point they more or less "dropped out". One can speculate to the reasons, but the theme of "looking at the humanity and being scared of what they saw" kind of shows up. Though, of course, those are speculations.

It is bit like "mages" among "barbarians". ... and we know "Conan" attitude. (sorry for another pulp reference :P)

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 15:48

Hi Luke:

Yes, it is said that Einstein and Twain kind of gave up on humanity at the end of their lives. I get it. They both were men of high conscience, and in this world, that is tough row to hoe.

Wade

FJMcD

16th January 2011, 16:40

Welcome Wade - I too am a Silva Mind Control graduate :) still reading through your material, but felt the desire to speak that connection. I was 17 when my family took the class together here on the central coast of California, and have always been thankful for that beginning instruction and the opening of possibilities.

This is a wonderful place full of love.

Frankie Jane

NoTingles

16th January 2011, 16:46

Abundance

It's all around us if only we had eyes to see it.

For example, I have seen great piles of computer hardware that is our cast offs due to an evil of the scarcity mindset I shall call "deliberate obsolescence." There is a hidden agenda in the scarcity mindset which asserts that only the privileged are worthy of the latest developments in technology.

The maintenance of the state of the art comes at a huge cost, both in wealth and impact on the environment. In other words, it's just senseless waste. Each computer represents a lot of work, and energy which once used can never be reclaimed even under the present so-called recyling system. The recycling efforts are a joke, and don't really recycle much of anything because quite simply, there's so much waste going on that it can't keep up for one thing, and for another, there isn't any profit in it.

Meanwhile, there are many people who don't have a computer, need one or really want one, but can't because to buy one is beyond their means. And then you look at these huge piles of abundance headed for the crusher. How in the world can this be a moral thing? Conservatively, I would guess half of the computers that are discarded were in working condition.

And it's not just with computers. Wasteful consumption, and a disgusting devaluation of people's work is present no matter where you look- and all to support an unsustainable drive for profit growth and market share.

Enough complaining. What can be done with this huge abundance opportunity?

These old computers may not run the latest and greatest advances in Microsoft's software, but they do quite well with a Freeware effort called Ubuntu. The computer I'm using right now to access this website, and type this post and view the video interviews runs on Ubuntu. It would have otherwise been discarded on the technology refuse heap, and turned into trash. It runs better than it ever did with Microsoft programs: it can boot up, and reach its operating state in less than a minute.

How long does your Windows machine take to start up?

So, here's the thing: This is an example of Abundance that waits for someone to tap into it. It is now possible for everyone in this world who needs or wants a computer to have one, and there's no reason they should be denied.

I have "rescued" perhaps a dozen good computers in this way. They were considered too old, and too slow to be of any further use to anyone, and discarded. After I work on them, they have new life, and I begin the process of finding new homes for them. But the truth is, because of the pervasive scarcity mindset, I have had little success even giving them away.

I know of people who spend a great deal of time searching for the "best deal" on a new computer. So, I offer them an alternative; I take them in and show them an Ubuntu system. After they sit down and try it out, they see how easy they are to use, and how well they work, but then they choke on the price.

When I tell them, take it home with you right now, and I hope you enjoy it, they back off.

You get what you pay for they tell me. If people reject abundance, what can really be done about alleviating scarcity?

The wiser Avalonians will probably argue, "NoTingles, old computers are nothing but trouble, and that's why people don't want them." I've been using this "old" computer for the last year and a half without a lick of trouble. I replaced the tiny 8GB hard drive, and a case fan, and the A-drive for less than $50. It was a good investment I think.

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 16:50

Hi witchy:

Thank you for creating that somatid thread. I might be familiar with some of his work. I saw Henry Monteith (who was involved with Merkyl) make a presentation at the 1991 U.S. Psychotronics national conference (where I met Brian O), but I think it was primarily on Nemes’s microscope:

http://www.rexresearch.com/nemes/1nemes.htm

As I recall, that scope could see “alive” and “dead” atoms. That sees a lot smaller than the somatoscope does. Of course, it was the usual suppression story, with Monteith trying to revive it on a shoestring, etc. Merkyl’s stuff appears to be related, and it may have also been part of Monteith’s presentation. I think that there have been many like Merkyl out there. Of course, they are suppressed. :( The American government has classified stuff like that literally thousands of times, and they are low level players in the suppression game.

I think that anything that points to a different paradigm of life and consciousness is rigorously suppressed. Such suppression helps keep the world-dominating materialism paradigm intact.

I once talked with Peter Moscow, and he said that Bob Beutlich, who has been with Psychotronics forever, used to think that tales of surveillance were just so much paranoia until the day that he picked up his phone and heard his voice from a conversation that he had the day before. That happened to us in Ventura, too. Apparently a cheap surveillance tactic back then was recording the conversation and then later transmitting it to a central recorder on the same phone line. If somebody picked up the phone while it was transmitting, they could hear the conversation that they previously had on the phone. And that is the “primitive” stuff. I could go on for days on that subject. It usually inspired paranoia, however. I have just assumed that I have been under surveillance for the past 25 years. At the CIA, FBI and Justice Department, they having filing cabinets full of stuff on Dennis, and I am sure that I at least merit a file folder or two. :) And that is just the government, who are small fry in the big picture.

Merkyl aside for a moment, the discoveries of Naessens are important for several reasons, but one of them is that anybody can look at that video footage and watch the somatids in action. Not only is the dark field microscope amazing in that it sees a world that light field scopes cannot, Naessens’s somatoscope achieves a resolution of 150 angstroms, where light field scopes only get 4,000 angstroms (limited by the wavelength of visible light). It is the only publicly working scope today where you can see life processes at that resolution. Modern optical theory cannot explain how to the somatoscope works, but looking through the scope is all the proof of the “impossible” that anybody needs, but orthodox science refuses to even look through the lens. As Nancy Appleton put it, it is hard to continue to ignore the findings of “filtrationists” like Naessens, when anybody can see the changes themselves in the video footage taken with such “impossible” microscopes.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#appleton

That is why Christopher Bird called Naessens the Galileo of the microscope.

That these kinds of pleomorphic dynamics were first discovered by the man that Pasteur probably plagiarized:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

and that other another “impossible” microscope, Rife’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

independently discovered pleomorphism almost a hundred years ago, highlights that fraudulence of the current paradigm that guides microbiology and the “medicine” derived from it. Such dogged adherence to a blinkered paradigm should make any thinking person step back in wonder. That something so fundamental as the building blocks of life itself are so willfully ignored should make anybody who says that things like free energy are “impossible” rethink their certitude.

It has been educational to confront “scientists” with the findings of the somatoscope, and watch them go into a tizzy of denial. I have watched them perform deeply irrational and emotional summersaults to dismiss what the somatoscope sees, when anybody can see it for themselves (the scientific ego is at work there – they performed similarly when dismissing the transmutation experiments using Brown’s Gas http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull ). Those denials are nothing short of incredible. It is as if modern physicists denied that gravity existed, and you dropped an apple in front of them, and they replied in a chorus, “We didn’t see anything fall. Falling is impossible! Go away! We don’t want to see your facts, we have our theories!” The danger is thinking that scientists as a whole are really very scientific:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#real

I’ll say this: the orthodox paradigm in this area is deeply flawed, and we barely know anything at all about life, at least in the “white” science world. I would think that any scientist worthy of the title would be excited about something like the somatoscope, that can see what no other scopes can (Rife’s aside), but the herd of orthodox scientists have been dissuaded from taking a look. I may know of no more spectacular demonstration of the anti-scientific attitudes of the “white” scientific establishment than the treatment afforded the somatoscope, Rife’s microscope, etc. That Merkyl’s work has been “classified” is typical, I am sad to say.

Similar to the free energy technology that has been developed in the “black science” world to the thirtieth generation, I am sure that microscopes like Naessens’s and Nemes’s are used in the “black science” world to go far more deeply than those suppressed pioneers have. What is known in the black world makes college physics textbooks look like cave drawings.

The black science world is notorious for its often-evil nature, so its findings can be highly distorted because of the motivation behind it. Some of what they do in that world is what Steven Greer will not discuss publicly, because it can mess you up to just hear about it.

Thanks for reading,

Wade

P.S., Yeah, this is kind of off topic, but not too far. The point of my site is that this is all related, and all falls under the category of “enforcing the scarcity paradigm,” in order to control the Great Herd of humanity. That is how the Global Controllers see it. If enough of us began shedding our herd instincts, it would quickly be “game over” for them and their world domination, and they know it well, which is why people like me have Internet stalkers, etc.

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 16:57

Hi FJMcD:

Yes, Silva was a great introduction.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

When you do “remote viewing” on your own, nobody can take away your knowledge, and new vistas beckon.

Hi NoTingles:

I work in the high tech field and have been building and maintaining computers for many years. Yes, planned obsolescence is part of the scarcity paradigm. Everywhere you look, you see it. But, it is all primarily based on energy scarcity. I know of nothing that can pop the scarcity paradigm better than free energy can. It is the big leverage point, which is why it is so ruthlessly suppressed, with billions thrown around like confetti to keep that stuff under wraps.

Carmody

16th January 2011, 17:15

From your website. You'll love the obviousness of this one, in retrospect.:

The March of the Lemmings

The whole thing about the lemmings going off cliffs is a purposely created fallacy. The Disney cinematographers has no luck in getting the lemmings to jump off a cliff that they were purposely driven to.

So they pushed them off.

It was a directed false flag attack to falsely show/capture the created reactions of lemmings to a false legend.

~~~~~~~~~~

Regarding scientists and deep education in the complex mind: People tell me that, well, a learned man, a scientist, they should know. I say, not necessarily so. They show the same emotionally driven capacity for ignorance as does the uneducated man (or anyone else). They have the same ego drives as anyone else.

Since they have a complex background story with such great detail.... that the walls of the life, with regard to finding the edges of that created and woven tapestry ....are very far away and buried, like the perfect near infinite (appearing) film set that seemingly has no end....this means they are usually MUCH harder to break out of their paradigm than a man who is far more ignorant. Sad, but true. this all depends on their emotional attachment to their life and world as it is.

When you compound such tendencies for their very deep back-story, where they spent, in some cases, decades creating that entire scope of life, it should them be easy to see why scientists are known as the hardest nut to crack.

Then we get to the current misnomer of how many scientists these day are more along the lines of glorified engineers. This is due to their acceptance of the idea of science having 'laws'. Where laws are a human social/moral/ethics consideration in averaging out behavior in cultural/societal group conditions and situations.

This means it's corollary is what is actually true in science, as science is about the theory of exploring the unknowns. Laws are for for engineering, which has specific methodological processes for the creating of known possibilities, and is wholly and completely not meant for exploration of unknowns.

Whereas the exact opposite is true in science. In science, there are no laws of any kind.

Only workable theory is allowed, theory that may or may not have a deep backstory of relative acceptance for certain situations and use. Since it is all theory, that specifically allows for the proper exploration of any so-called 'fundamental'. A fundamental may be judged unfit and in need of revision on the face of new evidence. Evidence which comes from the observation in the exploration of unknowns. So, everything is up for grabs and can shift, in science. Whereas in engineering, NOTHING is ever allowed to shift, as it is about building things that are workable in the human system of culture and society.

Never confuse the two.

Yet the modern paradigm of repression has worked as hard as it can to confuse the two, down to the point that now the scientists are living in this blatant lie where theory has become dogmatic law. And note that laws are about emotions, and punishment for the breakage of societal and cultural taboos, all based on emotions and 'human values'.

I do not know if you cover this angle on your website or not ...but it is one of the most (if not the most) fundamental break points that cover the created psychological block that has been inserted into the system. Find the point where the lie was inserted in the basics and one can then set about to rectifying it via increasing awareness. Which I think you are trying to do, here. :)

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 17:35

Hi Carmody:

Yes, being of Norwegian and Swedish ancestry, the lemming’s bad rep is one that is near and dear to my heart. One could accuse the lemming tale of being another plot to make Scandinavian rodents look stupider than others. :) That said, the idea is well known. I could call it the “bison stampede off the cliff,” but that would make the Indians look bad. :)

Herd instinct is a survival mechanism, and is pre-sentient behavior. I never witnessed so many people abdicating their sentience as I saw after 9/11 in the USA:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

Fear makes people revert to survival behaviors, and when people’s herd instinct (primates are herd animals) takes over, the Global Controllers know that everything is well in hand. The somatidian dynamics that Naessens documented is similar in that survival stress makes cells revert to their primitive state and stop being team players in the body:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#anthro

Civilizations collapse and bodies self-destruct in similar ways:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#fail

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 17:45

Hi Carmody:

I do not go into it as deeply as you just did, at least for why scientists are so unscientific and they regard their theories as “laws,” but I think that I present many, many instances where their indoctrination and herd conditioning take over. As the Brookings Institute advised NASA long ago, the group that will probably be the most threatened by the “discovery” of ET life is not religious fundamentalists, but scientists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings

That letter from Gerald Light on Eisenhower’s meeting with the ETs, and how the scientists had their minds and egos blown, rings so true.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_Q_0.htm

I may do a more nuanced presentation one day. We’ll see

Thanks,

Wade

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 18:52

Hi Carmody:

Yes, one last thing on your point about the crucial lies being taught in the basics; that is something that I emphasize in my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded

Wade

Luke

16th January 2011, 19:58

General reflection on computers/gadgets and software: problem is in the system itself: upgrading the thing you already have is made as hard as possible. You need to discard (kill) old "tool" to enjoy "new one" ... because no-one in the pyramidal energy leeching system gains from smooth transit.

This behaviour permeates whole system: up to our bodies (this is interesting bit, how without death system would ultimately frozen over long time ago.. and even with this "resetting" factor we repeat things over and over again.. but this is thought for elsewhere)
---

Now I am not scientists, and "you guys" might shoot me down for being dumb, but way I see it the big thing is, we are probably literally sitting on one one giant ZPE generator right now. I'm pointing to issue of "Earth residual heat". Of course, "science" tells us it is all from radioactive elements in the mantle and such (example here: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env162.htm) .. but if that were true, Earth should be loosing quite a lot of mass, and as far as I know- this is not the case .. au contraire: it grows.

This suggests the whole "sun is thermonuclear reactor" story might not be that accurate ..

And If that is the case then we are outside "zero/negative sum game" already .. only system inertia and entropy generated by system's frozen structures make it appear to be zero/negative.

(I apologize if that issue is addressed on Wade's page.. I have simply not reached it yet then.. going essay after essay)

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 20:40

Hi Luke:

Oh boy, I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy for fifteen years or so, and am aware of the Electric Universe people and the controversies around their views. I think that the theory of radioactivity warming earth’s mass has the numbers to support it (See Rare Earth, for instance). The Electric Universe people think that something other than fusion powers the stars, but I am not so sure. Again, there are many, many rabbit holes to disappear down.

The bottom line is that we all have to eat to survive and we are dependent on energy to power our relatively comfortable industrialized civilization, and it is easy for its denizens to lose sight of that fact, although I think that if we got average Americans alone in a room and got an honest answer, they would virtually all admit that our military adventures in Asia are all about securing hydrocarbon energy.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

As far as I know, vanishingly few of us can manifest our own food from the ethers, directly absorb sunlight into our skin and not need to eat, make our automobiles work by just willing them to move (they need hydrocarbon fuel), and if you put any of us naked into a forest and we had to fend for ourselves, I doubt that any of us would survive for a week.

I am trying to make practical abundance thinkable. Energy is the lynchpin of our economy and always has been, and the scarcity principle is being enforced in ways that can boggle the mind. However, it is the quiet acquiescence to the indoctrination and conditioning that contributes the most to this situation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant ,

because we all like to eat. :)

Tapping into the ZPF is a lot harder than it looks, and there is a mountain of chaff out there for every grain of wheat in the free energy field and many “alternatives.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#alternatives

That is part of the problem.

All of these posts this weekend have, I hope, showed the many ways that the scarcity paradigm manifests, and it can do so quite subtly. Being that this is the Avalon forum, with a lot of the Camelot witnesses being “insiders” of the global elite, a big danger is thinking that those global elites are the root of our problems; they aren’t – they are merely parasites (and usually puffed up ones that think they are predators :) ) taking advantage of an easily manipulated (so far) herd animal.

Conspiracism and structuralism, the competing frameworks of the political Left and Right, are united in their victim-oriented perspective, and both make the root of our problems those bad old elites, and their idea is that if those elites just went away, all would be well. That is a delusion, although a deeply-ingrained and seductive one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

Until we begin acting like creators instead of victims, operating from love instead of fear, this nightmare will continue. This is the most difficult conundrum that I know of, and I think that replacing the scarcity paradigm with the abundance paradigm will demand the best of all of us.

Paradoxically, it would take very few of us to unhook our minds and hearts from the machine:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

and simply understand what practical abundance even looks like:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

to help it, and maybe in a critical way, manifest.

The greatest triumph of our conditioning and indoctrination systems is making anything existing outside of the dominant paradigm unimaginable.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#potholes

I am trying to help enough of us to simply imagine it. :)

Best,

Wade

Dale

16th January 2011, 20:41

Thank you, Wade, for your contributions of great interest to this thread and forum.

There certainly does seem to be an interesting correlation between the Zero Point Field and what Russian scientists term "Torsion Energy," especially the vortex/spin characteristics.

Yes, it is said that Einstein and Twain kind of gave up on humanity at the end of their lives.

I find this particular quotation very true, as individuals, upon "figuring out" the state of humanity occupying this blue marble in space, they tend to react in such a manner. Though I'm (hopefully!) not near the end of my life, I will be open enough to admit I've recently had such convictions. The game, at this point, becomes focusing in on the distant light, that burning ember deep within us all, and working to not only recognize it, but appreciate it in a constructive, creative, manner.

It seems that, by definition, we're all in this together, and might as well work together to solve our problems. As yes, there are problems - many of which relate back to the primary issue of independence vs. dependence - closely related to the topic of personal, free energy.

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 20:44

Well said, Dale.

Thanks for being here,

Wade

Ilie Pandia

16th January 2011, 21:37

Hello Wade,

Your goal to get enough people to just think or imagine abundance seems to have its roots in the Seth material :), and from what I gather so far is one of the few paths that does not lead to a dead-end (if not the only path...). It helps with the shift from victim to creator.

Wade Frazier

16th January 2011, 22:20

Hi Pixel:

Seth was definitely one of my great, early influences:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth

I have seen many around me “imprint” on whatever began to wake them up and they can’t seem to leave its orbit (the Bible, Eastern gurus, and so on) even if it really ends up limiting their perspective and effectiveness. So, from time to time, I have revisited my early influences to see if they still held up. I must have far more than 100 channeled books at home and a stack of channeled magazines at least five feet tall. Some channeled books are a lot better than others, and I really don’t read much channeled material anymore (a lot of it I consider pretty naïve, but maybe that is just my cynicism coming through :) ). However, when I pick up a Seth book, I am continually impressed with his brilliant, loving perspective. For two years in LA, I went to a “Seth” channeling every two weeks, for about fifty sessions in all. I have the tapes from all of those sessions, and plan to turn them into MP3 files one day. What brilliant, brilliant, stuff (that does not mean that Jane Roberts necessarily always scaled the spiritual heights herself, as she threatened that LA Seth channel, claiming an exclusive on Seth. The original Michael channels apparently are similar:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

thinking that theirs is the one and only, true Michael Material, with all other Michael channelings pale and possibly fraudulent imitations. Ah, echoes of the scarcity-based paradigm are everywhere! :) )

I think that people have to have a mystical awakening before material like Seth’s or Michael’s really makes much sense. Truly understanding something like the Seth Material is not really an intellectual exercise.

Well, you ping me like this, and you get a goodie! In one of my upcoming essays (I am working on a few at once), below is a draft of one of the footnotes:

“I am still deeply influenced by Jane Roberts’s Seth. Seth said that the bedrock of our reality is a unit of consciousness, which is far smaller than any subatomic particle yet detected (there are many millions of units of consciousness in each atom – see Seth’s The Unknown Reality, session 682, for an introduction to the concept). Seth also stated that as science drills ever more deeply into the atom’s structure, and sub-atomic particles are discovered at an ever-increasing pace, at some stage scientists are going to begin suspecting that something is wrong with the picture that their discoveries are painting, and they are going to rethink their entire approach. Then, science might begin progressing in a way that lays the groundwork for a science of consciousness, which is the greatest science of all. In Seth’s voluminous output, he mentioned the folly of modern biological research, and said that when scientists kill a frog to dissect it, they know less of life when they have finished that investigation than before they began. In The Unknown Reality, session 701, Seth said, ‘In many cases your scientists seem to have the strange idea that you can understand a reality by destroying it; that you can perceive the life mechanism of an animal by killing it; or that you can examine a phenomenon best by separating yourself from it.’”

I believe that love is the answer, that the means become the ends, and other ideas that I first heard from Seth and my other early mystical mentors:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#done

I think that any worthy mentor hopes that his pupils develop their own perspective instead of parroting their mentor’s, and I think that all worthy mentors hope to live to see their students exceed them (as they stand on their mentor’s shoulders). I am definitely not standing on Seth’s shoulders above him, but yes, he has deeply influenced my perspective, and I think that it is a blessing, not a limitation (but I might be wrong :) ).

Best,

Wade

Carmody

17th January 2011, 15:38

Here is a living, breathing example of what appears to be extreme levels of repression and control of this information and technology. The point is that it happens all the time, and there used to be a list of dropped ouit, missing, or simply gone 'free energy researchers' (and similar areas of research). It was moving up to over a few hundred names when I first saw it about 12-15 years back. Now, it would be about 300-350 names from my witnessing alone. Somewhere on the globe...a story similar to this situation happened last week, it is happening this week -and it will happen next week (from my observation and my direct experience).:

http://pesn.com/2011/01/15/9501744_Keshe_kidnapped_in_Canada_over_false_nuclear_weapons_concerns/

Somewhere in my pile of stuff, for some reason, I printed one specific case off, one that happened in late 2005. These particular guys were playing with announcing a 'free energy' plasma type device that has interesting side effects. They were playing with three axis plasma resonant (AC functions involved) energy addition. In their words, this ended up creating a temporal shift where they lost about 4 hours. They stated they were being observed by people posing as telephone line workers in one instance (of their observation set). Due to the possibilities in that particular type of molecular dissolution and specific plasma effects and their connection to gravity drive and temporal shifting, you can see that the suppression/response is pretty darned powerful and coordinated. Not only does the technology disappear but if aspects of it are unique and new(ish) then those outfits and groups involved in the suppression take that component or technological shift into their own given circle.

Having a living example in hand, as it is 'in the event itself' (in the act of happening) tends to help bring a better perspective to people and their responses. Which Is why I bring it to this thread.

This is how they get close to you. In my case, it was a man who seemingly 'randomly' managed to get involved at a key financial and presentation 'choke' point. We got along fine but the business was going no-where. I began separating myself from him personally and financially when it accidentally spilled out that all four of his grandparents were Freemasons, and he was seeing a psychiatrist and was taking drugs prescribed by that psychiatrist. Every alarm bell that could go off, went off (for me), at that time... and I began to separate myself from that person. (there is more to it, but not that I'd publicly share) In my case, it is not tied to any free-energy field but my talking out powerfully on such things for the past decade, at a minimum, has caused my name to go on such lists regarding potential for such.

000

17th January 2011, 16:19

I've been a lurker on this thread since its inception and I must say on all of Avalon this is my favorite thread. You are doing wonderful work, Wade, and I just want to extend my thanks. It is helping me gain a much greater understanding of free energy and how we really do need to be in resonance with the Infinite and also each other to understand it more completely. A humble student of Nature, I am learning quite a bit just in this one thread and from your site.

I want so intensely to see free energy around the world before my time is up on this Earth. To understand it is to aid in manifesting it and I'll do my part at the very least in gaining a comprehensive understanding of it.

I want to add a little nugget of a video lecture that my father (who is an architect) sent me a little while ago. The lecturer is Werner Sobek, an architect who is very much intent on drastically reducing the energy consumption in buildings by using and creating new materials that make buildings almost energy neutral in some cases, where very little heating/cooling is required. Here is the video: http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/585

This is the other aspect of becoming more resonant with Nature along with free energy: creating things which require very little energy to sustain themselves.

Wade Frazier

17th January 2011, 20:14

Hi Carmody:

FYI, my writings here are stirring things up on a few levels, and I am already dealing with some of the impacts (nothing "conspiratorial" yet, but still stuff that takes up my time and effort). Your experience is a familiar one. :) That can be one heck of a learning experience. One of the amazing things about my journey was that when we had people like Bill The BPA Hit Man make his moves:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

it seemed like most of the people around me were largely oblivious to what was happening. I do not know if they were incapable of understanding what was happening, refused to understand, or if their naïveté and denial was just too entrenched to disturb, but it was incredible to witness time after time. When Mr. Texas made his move in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

the mind-boggling part for me was all the people close to me who signed up with him. He was a silver-tongued devil, and I mean devil. When he made his play, I could almost smell the sulfur, but some people very close to me treated him like the messiah. By their fruits you will know them. Many people can talk a good game, but their actions give them away. I also had the benefit of witnessing at least a dozen attempts to steal Dennis's companies by that time, so that assisted my comprehension, but a child should understand that a real "hero" is not going to go around threatening people with the same sword that he just ran Dennis through with, but people way older than my tender years were almost effortlessly gulled by Mr. Texas's play. I suppose that the satanic figure in Stephen King's The Stand, and all those who signed up with him in Vegas, comes close to the scene that I witnessed.

So, how long does the list have to get of inventors getting keel-hauled, disappearing (many, if not most, did because they took the money http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make ), and so on, before people begin realizing that in today's environment, that entire path of lone wolf inventors, raising money, and so forth is the path of disaster (or the quiet buyout)? Nobody has run that gauntlet yet and even come close to the finish line.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

When the dust finally settled in Ventura, I had a very strong suspicion that "technology" was not the problem – people were:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

When Brian O set out to be the Paul Revere of free energy in 1996, I wanted to tell him what he would likely find, but I highly respect the path of learning from experience, so he was going to find out honestly. Even though I knew what he was going to find, it still was sobering to hear him tell of getting the door slammed in his face pretty much everyplace that he went, as he tried to raise awareness. I think that that was when he finally began emphasizing that the primary problems of free energy are not technical, but social.

Some readers probably wonder if and when something like what I am doing will lead to positive action. Until there is a pool of awareness that not only can help shine the spotlight on the true heroes (the dark team always likes taking them out in dark allies, so the spotlight helps, but maybe this is not a game for heroes to play – I have spent plenty of time considering that notion), but to understand the dimensions of the problem and the paths to the light that just might work, no lone wolf inventor is going to get anywhere. Again, the day that such inventors give their wares to a worthy group, maybe we have a chance. I have never met that inventor, and I have never encountered that worthy group. That group will not only have its heart in the right place, but they will be worldly enough to not be swayed when people like Mr. Texas show up, or Mr. Skeptic. The fact that Mr. Skeptic is an august member of the NEC and a pal of that author whose article you linked to:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

demonstrates how far we have to go. That said, I think that it can be educational to see all the ways that people like Keshe are derailed. But, it should not take too many examples for the students to begin to understand the dynamics.

The really hard part of the learning in this field is that the person who is messing with Keshe may well merely be a free-lance criminal, just seeing an opportunity and taking it. Dennis thinks differently, but I am not sure that Mr. Texas was a professional saboteur, but may have been just a professional con man. The derailers do hire people like him for snuff jobs, but the vast majority of people who tried to steal Dennis's companies were just the typical denizens of America's capitalistic shark tank.

Enough said, and thanks for sharing that story. My heart goes out to the innumerable people like Keshe. Many of them are genuine. Many others, however, dig their own graves by either not really having anything (way more chaff than wheat out there), and ignoring the alarm bells that go off (those ones that you heard in your little adventure, but those around you may have not) until the entire house is in a conflagration.

Hi 000, thanks for that news and kind words. While the idea of working in harmony with nature is a good one, it is good to also be aware that many of the "live in harmony with nature" efforts that are particularly prominent with the so-called environmentalists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#environmentalists

and others are rooted in austerity assumptions, not abundance. That is why the "environmentalists" generally see free energy as the enemy, because their orientation around energy is to use less of it, not more. From what I have seen, the hair shirt mentality also has a lot to do with it. My upcoming essay is intended to make clear what can come onto the radar if humanity had its energy restraints removed in a way that did not harm anything else.

One thing that I would love to do one day is to engage architects, engineers and other designers and say, "OK, so what could you design if energy was no longer a restriction?" Then I would have to leave them alone for a long time, because some of the more astute ones would begin to realize that the very foundations of their disciplines are rooted in the assumption of energy scarcity, and it may take them many years to really do a deep dive and realize that if energy was abundant and not scarce, they would have to throw away much if not most of what they learned. It should be a fun learning experience, not a horrifying one,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#rubbish

because on the other side of that divide just might lie something that looks strangely like heaven on earth.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

Brian O and others say that the primary "pollution" if we make the free energy jump will be thermal pollution. While I'll generally agree, that is also the most benign "pollution" that I can think of. With free energy and related technologies, I advocate not having buildings destroying earth's ecosystems by occupying ground level. They can be made underground, floating on the ocean or in the air, or in space, and the ground level (where the majority of earth's biological activity takes place, and where almost all of its visible biomass is created) can go back to nature.

This world had ground-based buildings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

but "harmony" barely begins to describe that civilization's relationship to nature.

Also, if we can farm energy from the ZPF, we may be able to also send it back, so that there is no excess energy pollution. That has been given serious consideration by some in the field whose opinions that I respect.

I hope that with free energy implemented intelligently and wisely, shots of earth at night from space will eventually show a dark earth, not one spangled with light pollution.

Best,

Wade

000

17th January 2011, 22:24

On the other side of that divide just might lie something that looks strangely like heaven on earth.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

This (the bullet points in particular) just lead to something in me being clicked on like the birth of a star within me leading to immediate unveiling of what I needed to know (happening quite a bit lately). I have a much better vision of what abundance is now. I'll hold that vision (hard to put words to, very elegant... exceptionally elegant) clearly within me and amplify its presence in the hologram for as long as I exist (and also the vision that beings are efficiently able to remove their veils and see and understand it too). This is the vision I want for beings living here to experience.

Cheers :)

Wade Frazier

17th January 2011, 23:32

That was beautiful, 000. Thanks. Your awareness is appreciated, and it can be more important to making this transition than any of us can know. I spent many years wandering through the valley of the shadow of death during my journey. My mid-life crisis was a monster,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

and I was in no shape to engage the public during much of that time, and I can see how it marked some of my writings during those years. I'll let you in on a little secret. I have tried to put the best of my perspective on my site, and there have been times when I had to refer to my own writings to get myself back on keel, and sometimes I would write to take myself out of that dark valley. As a matter of fact, I just looked at when I wrote that abundance essay, and May 2006 may have been the very darkest month of my journey. So, it looks like I chose the bottom of the abyss to write what may be the most fun-to-read essay on my site. It can be strange how the mind and spirit work sometimes.

My spirit had a deep, festering wound that came to a head when, paradoxically, I was invited in August 2006 to Washington D.C. to be part of a Bush administration alternative energy ploy on the eve of the election. I didn't entertain the thought of going for a second, for a few reasons. But, in retrospect, it became the catalyst for ending my mid-life crisis.

Mr. Deputy brought me to my radicalizing moment, as he made faces at me when I was on the witness stand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

and I probably have to thank him (not today, because he certainly would not understand :) ), and as crazy as this might sound, he might have been an angel in disguise, rubbing my face in evil to get me to wake me up. Odd notion, eh?

Anyway, thanks for being out there, and hold your vision! :)

Wade

000

17th January 2011, 23:55

From the movie Jacob's Ladder, the character Louis says:

"Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth."

:)

Wade Frazier

18th January 2011, 00:10

Hi 000. My wife really liked that movie. I don't recall it that clearly, but may have to queue it up one day. Thanks.

Luke

18th January 2011, 14:15

Technology, in common with many other activities, tends toward avoidance of risks by investors. Uncertainty is ruled out if possible. Capital investment follows this rule, since people generally prefer the predictable. Few recognize how destructive this can be, how it imposes severe limits on variability and thus makes whole populations fatally vulnerable to the shocking ways our universe can throw the dice.
From "Dune" by Frank Herbert .. found in http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dune

Wade Frazier

18th January 2011, 16:03

Hi Luke:

That is why they call this stuff “disruptive technology.” :)

I went to business school, got my CPA, and have spent nearly my entire career in corporate America. Herbert is describing the scarcity-based paradigm where hierarchies control society, and how that enforced conformity (technologically, socially, ideologically, and so on) makes the societies vulnerable to the only constant in the universe: change.

When I heard Greer say that the Global Controllers had spent $100 billion in quiet money to strangle disruptive technologies in their cradle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

not only did it completely align with my experiences and what I was seeing in the alternative energy field, but my other reaction was that that kind of activity was capitalism on steroids. Fuller’s perspective really helped me articulate my own:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

and in the end, whether it is communism, capitalism, or other variants, they are all scarcity-based systems. With abundance, they all become obsolete. There is plenty of historical investigation on my site, and my upcoming essay will have much more, but one thing that became evident during my more recent studies was that the energy-poorer a civilization was, the more rigid its social hierarchies were. That is because the margin of error was so thin. Before industrialization, the primary preoccupation of all people for all time was getting enough food to eat. One bad harvest, and there was widespread starvation. There was not much slack in the system for people to do what they wanted, because they were always living close to the edge. It was only with the advent of industrialization, hoisted on the back of hydrocarbon energy, that people could back away from the cliff. Then this thing called freedom took root, and in ways that are not always obvious.

Energy is wealth, and as the hydrocarbon power of industrialization freed civilizations from relying on muscle power, and machines freed civilizations from relying on hands as much, people were no longer such necessary cogs in the machine. Slavery and other forced-servitude institutions ended. Women no longer were needed to be wealth generating baby machines. American ideology extols those heroes of the American Revolution and how they invented freedom. It is largely a pack of lies, but serves the dominant class’s interests:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#fathers

Energy = choice = freedom. The rise of the American Empire is an energy story above all else.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#catton

Today, in the Western press you can see lurid details on stonings and other barbarities in non-industrialized nations. I was in a conversation with somebody quite recently on a stoning in Iran, as I recall. It is easy to call it the result of their backward religion or outmoded social structure, but all such “primitive” practices are relics of the rigidity of pre-industrial civilizations (people like Earl Cook call them low energy societies http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#status ). Ironically, those Middle Eastern nations are sitting on top of the world’s greatest energy supply (if you ignore the ZPF), and they are largely poor and “backwards,” while the West gets their hydrocarbons, and cheaply. They have been actively prevented from industrializing, because if they did, they would use that oil under their feet, instead of just pumping it to the West. There is probably no more dramatic evidence of that scenario than the recent invasion of Iraq by the USA. Coming on the heels of draconian sanctions that killed off more than a million Iraqis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#continuing

What was really telling during the invasion was the USA actively destroying every single institution in Iraq other than the oil ministry and the churches. Turning them back into primitive peoples who will never need that oil is a big part of the plan.

The invasion (with every publicly-stated rationale a bold-faced lie, as usual) has killed off more than another million people. Probably between three and four million Iraqis have died because they sat on oil that the U.S. oil companies did not control:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

Probably not one in a hundred Americans knows or cares about how many Iraqis have died under our collective boot.

The saber rattling with Iran is just more of the same. Incredibly, the same lies are being told about Iran as were told about Iraq, and the Western media did not miss a beat in the propaganda barrage, just substituting Iran for Iraq in the “weapons of mass destruction” canard. That the propaganda about Iraq has all been admitted to be a fabrication does not seem to matter. The media is a key part of the brainwashing machine:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

It is all about energy and its resultant economic reality, in this “Asian military adventure” situation and in almost any others that you can name.

Best,

Wade

NoTingles

20th January 2011, 04:45

Hi FJMcD:

Hi NoTingles:

I work in the high tech field and have been building and maintaining computers for many years. Yes, planned obsolescence is part of the scarcity paradigm. Everywhere you look, you see it. But, it is all primarily based on energy scarcity. I know of nothing that can pop the scarcity paradigm better than free energy can. It is the big leverage point, which is why it is so ruthlessly suppressed, with billions thrown around like confetti to keep that stuff under wraps.

Wade, I think you are right. And I also think that if there wasn't anything to free energy, they wouldn't bother you. As it is they send in the gunzles when they think you might be getting close to blowing the lid off their "little racket". They frame you up with some kind of cheap, cooked up charges, and that demands property destruction? If people can watch this *rap happening in their own cities without realizing this is gangland style strongarm tactics, then you know that particular community is far from being ready for it. I've been thinking about what I see as the way to foster development of the technology prior to putting it into production. I'm thinking that if my idea was to succeed, it would need divine intervention. Given that I've decided not to say anything more. That doesn't mean I don't hope and pray you will succeed.

Wade Frazier

20th January 2011, 15:43

Hi NoTingles:

I understand the divine intervention angle. I know that my journey was guided. Whether it was divinely guided is another question. :) On my good days I think that it was, but on this planet at this time, nobody gets off easy, so if you sign up for journeys like that (and you almost never have an inkling what you are in for), the ride can be pretty rough. All the overgrown Boy Scout fellow travelers that I know and know of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

have been through similar travails. I doubt that any of us has any regrets, but if any of us had any idea what was ahead of us, we might have never started our journeys.

The crazy part of this is that the technologies have already been developed to a Star Trek-like level in many areas, but we don’t get any while “they” run the show, and they only run it because we end up dancing to their tune as they jerk the strings of scarcity.

Yes, when a community such as Ventura applauds as we get shellacked (that, probably more than anything else, radicalized me), you know that it is the last place where an effort like ours will succeed. But, where is the community that won’t act that way? I don’t know of one, at least geographically.

However, the Internet, for all of its limitations, allows virtual communities to form, like this one.

Brian said it in our interview, and we all came to discover it during our adventures: almost nobody is even thinking along the lines of free energy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

I regard that as the triumph of the scarcity-based conditioning that all humans undergo from their cradles.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Energy is the ballgame, and always has been:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

but most people have little understanding of the issue. The average American can put his foot on his car’s accelerator and pump gas from the gas station, but only has a vague idea of how the world really works, or even cares (fear does that). That is a big part of the problem.

While I respect the efforts of people like Dennis and Greer, I have lived that journey more than once, and with the current levels of public awareness, participation and collective level of integrity, I believe that the chances of mounting a technological development effort like that and getting over the finish line are extremely thin. Such an effort would need support, and not the support of people waiting to cash in if it happens, people who are watching because it is a good show, people who sure would like a free energy machine delivered to their home, and so on. They need the support of an awake and caring humanity, who know the stakes, obstacles and potential.

More people need to understand how the world really works, and I don’t mean what the Global Controllers are up to – they really are a minor aspect of what is happening. They really do not have much power, not when compared to the inherent power in the rest of humanity. If only 0.0001% of humanity woke up to the degree that they understood how energy runs their daily existence, what the implications of free energy are and how it is already here but suppressed, and how easily a supported effort to do it independently could happen, and they could refrain from having the innumerable unproductive reactions to that reality (all are ignorant or fearful responses):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

then I think that at least some progress will be made, and it might be enough to actually catalyze its reality. I am not certain that it can happen that way, but I have never seen anybody try it. I know this: if we cannot even imagine it, we certainly cannot pursue it.

Again, this is a conundrum the likes I have never heard of in anything else. In the end, if we can just become aware, acknowledge the situation and dare to imagine something better, it might be enough. If it is not enough, at least it would be a good start. Nothing else has ever come close to making a dent.

That is what I am attempting to do in my “spare” time. You do not need to do anything other than be aware. A very common reaction to those new to this field is wanting to run out and “do something.” This is not an area like that, not in a field where angels fear to tread. In the “do something” area, I am not sure what Dennis has not tried. Only people like him are qualified at this time to “do something” in this field and have a prayer.

It is not easy to understand the reality around this situation without resorting to drinking. The vast majority refuse to even think about this stuff. It is a brave act to even lend one’s awareness to the issue. Hang in there.

Best wishes,

Wade

Carmody

20th January 2011, 16:12

What I'm seeing Wade, is thousands of people, right now, are making a run at the guards. and a few of them will die. And are doing so, right now. But those thousands are actually, indeed.. making a run for it.

Just yesterday, a young guy I know told me that he moved into a house, and the prior tenants had moved abruptly. He found out why from the neighbors. He says that his new neighbors said that (a double hand down - but this sort of information was not prompted or pre-loaded into him) the prior tenant was putting hydroxy or HHO or Brown's gas devices in people' cars.

Then he moved, family, everything almost overnight. Did not even tell his neighbor and the man's wife and she (the neighbor) were good friends.

So people are trying and they are trying hard. This sort of thing, with the hydroxy boost has really taken a hold, in it's own way, in it's own version, like that of MMS. They come after MMS, but it had too much of a foothold created to kill it off completely.

Wade Frazier

20th January 2011, 18:03

Hi Carmody:

The first dream that we had, way back in 1986, was that we could set off a stampede toward free energy. Boy, were we naïve. I am not about to encourage people to throw their lives away trying to "do something" in the disruptive technology area, not relating to free energy. I hear, all the time, something along the lines of, "Times have changed, Wade, and this time we will scale the ramparts!" And then I watch them get cooked before the even get within a thousand miles of the dragon's lair. I have watched that happen to more than a few gung ho-ers in recent years. Usually, they fall on their swords or are taken out of commission by their own foibles or actions of their "allies" or the local interests, and the Global Controllers never had to lift a finger. I already have enough blood on my hands.

As far as I know, from publicly-mounted efforts, Dennis scared the Global Controllers more than anybody else, and even then, he was mostly a nuisance:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

There is a lot that I can't say publicly, but I will say that Dennis has been high on their radar since 1986. He survived for years in America's capitalistic shark tank before the local energy interests really felt threatened. I believe that only when the dust settled in Seattle:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

did the Global Controllers finally say to themselves, "Well, it looks like we have a contender here." Then came a $10 million dollar offer a few months later:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

They were certainly behind the $1 billion offer:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

Miracle supplements and so forth are insignificant sideshows compared to free energy. Nobody is getting offered a billion dollars to stop their supplement effort. As far as I am concerned, putting Brown's Gas in cars is entirely inconsequential, in the big energy picture. Somebody published that list of thirty or so applications of what Brown's Gas could do. I think that it could not do your homework, but I am not sure what else might have been excluded. :) When I was with Dennis and Yull, it quickly became evident that the transmutational properties of BG was the big show. The rest was mostly noise.

Again, I am going to highly discourage anybody who reads my posts here to think that they can run out and "do something" in this field, without realizing that they are likely throwing their lives away in ways that they can scarcely imagine, if they ever even get to the point of doing anything productive. Again, I'll take the Muppet Movie ending to this, but I am not really very interested in the "stampede" approach anymore. If they united in purpose, then maybe they could get somewhere, but I am still waiting for that inventor with the goods to give it to a worthy group….

I am trying to do something different, and something that is rather independent of whether free energy happens or not. I am trying to help grow an awareness that has some understanding of how our world really works, on the technical, social, economic and spiritual aspects. It is all related. If free energy technology was made available tomorrow, the fun would only begin. The way that I came to see it, after many years and enough larger-than-life experiences to last me the next twenty lifetimes, was that the free energy conundrum is primarily an issue of sentience and the love/fear duality. At its root, it is the issue of scarcity and abundance, and what we choose. I am trying to help people see that.

Best,

Wade

Carmody

20th January 2011, 18:59

I'm saying that I'm not condoning or encouraging any action. But I am witnessing. Something. Nothing more than that.

99%+ of those people getting into the act are not reading these posts, so it has nothing to do with that, on this end. They are doing their own independent thing. The false glass ceiling paradigm is in danger of some form of some sort. That's about all I can get out of it right now. I'm a JAFO on this one. (Just Another F--ing Observer).

Wade Frazier

20th January 2011, 19:12

I am going to relate a little anecdote. A long time ago, one of today's names in the free energy field was introduced to me, and he did not know anything about my background. Up until that time, he was a pretty corporate guy, from the scientific end of things. I began to tell him of my adventures, and when I got to the part of my radicalizing moment, when Mr. Deputy was making faces at me as I was on the witness stand:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

he began looking at me like I was crazy. My heart sank as I saw that (the usual reaction, but you don't usually expect it from people in the field, but it is more common than I would like to admit), and I was supposed to hitch my wagon to his. Well, quite a few years later, that guy is still at it, and has been slowly learning how this land really lays. He has suffered a great deal and had his eyes opened, but he has yet to really ride on the ragged edge of this stuff, and a big part of me wishes that he never knows what that is like, because not many can survive it.

I saw so many, many lives wrecked and prematurely terminated on my journey, and saw people crumble, people who I thought had the right stuff. I have often wondered how I survived. When I saw others like me and heard about their adventures (at least those who survived them), I think that my survival was due to:

1. I was an overgrown Boy Scout;

2. I was young;

3. Somebody was looking out for me (probably whoever led me on that crazy journey);

4. I have been compensated since then and kind of put out to pasture – I can't complain about my personal life, other than maybe working too many hours. But I can't help myself from trying to be productive in this area in some small way.

I have no illusions; the people putting their lives on the line in the free energy quest are playing the game at a far higher level than I am. I can only look on in awe, because I was there once, too, and know what they are up against. I am trying to live the quiet life anymore.

Best,

Wade

P.S., Carmody, I just saw your post. When you are out there, doing something, you do commiserate and see what others are doing. You almost can't help but be aware. I hear from people planning "to do something" pretty regularly, and who are doing something. More are aware of this thread than is obvious. My professional Internet stalkers are certainly aware.

write4change

20th January 2011, 20:25

Namaste, Wade,

Yours is the first thread I read after replying to my welcome. It is absolute confirmation that I am in the right place at the right time.

First, failing is part of the process although very painful. I have personally lost a million and half dollars trying to change the paradigm. The good thing about it--is I know what is wrong about the way I went. I have spent years going deeper into myself and the mysteries of the universe to find out. Had I met someone like you when I had the million and half, we might have succeeded. There must be a reason for the timing to becoming now.

I like you probably got almost killed for it. I took on a pillar of the community as a partner in a big non profit field thinking that would make me safe. 32 days later I was found bleeding on my front lawn and I awoke in the ER with no memory. I was told I had been kicked in the face by my own horse who had escaped from the barn. Since I was not cooking on all cylinders, I was passively accepting of everything. Essentially, in the next two years I lost everything and now live in abject poverty which is a blessing for now.

This partner was deeply involved with the judicial system of the community, as well as, the psychological community and was considered a major player as a community healer. During the crucial two years I was placed on neurontin a drug for epilepsy which tamps down frontal lobe activity. Eli Lilly marketed off label for years as a mood stabilizer. One day I picked up the business section of the LA Times which I no longer read in the waiting room of the doctor's office. There was the story about what neurontin really was and how Lilly had just been fined 235 million dollars for this off label marketing.

I went home and weaned myself off of it, eventually moved to the hood of Los Angeles leaving no forwarding address. I still have no memory of 30 days before or after the "event." But it seems everything else gradually returned and I have worked at and studied brain neural plasticity and worked with brain luminosity on the net. As I became myself--this I know. It is possible that my horse kicked me in the face. But I had compressed fractures of the legs and several broken ribs as well--I did not know this until I saw Xrays after my later heart attack. I have raised and trained horses all my life. They may kick you out of fear or surprise but they never stomp on you. Once you are down they are gone. So while I never will know the true story, I do know the one I have been told is as truthful as 911.

I have a true sense of time pushing me to disclose, include and develope on this site.

Unlike you, I did not study science but spirituality, psychology, music, and medicine. I have spent many years teaching and nursing. Like you stated in your post, it is the need for science and spirituality to hook up and neither works well without the other. Finding people who understand that is difficult. Hence, it is happening here. When I saw Brian O'Leary's interview, for me I saw hope because Brian has the gleaming aura of sexual satisfaction. From his interview, I know his wife and kids have accepted and loved him through his process and followed his needs without resistance. This is very rare. I am able to trust his judgment. And I know I need him as he needs me rather or not we totally understand that at this moment.

My father was in the military as a lifer. I grew up on bases where there were signs everywhere saying what you see, what you hear, when you leave, leave it here. My father was a violent, deeply disturbed man but I have always cut him, like the neighbors, much slack because he is what the army made him. He was one of the few Americans to be fighting with the British in 1939--he joined thru Canada at 19.

When I was two, he picked my up by my braids and threw me across a room hitting my head on a brick wall and fracturing my skull. I have the scars but not specific knowledge of it and it is not important. That caused me to go and live with my grandparents in upstate New York on a farm for the next five years. That used to be my explanation to myself about why I am so different from his other four children. I have always regarded myself as a mutant.

When I was 4, my parents came back in the winter, in the deep snow. There was to be arguments about them taking me away. I was put outside in my snowsuit to put some "color in my cheeks." I don't think children have concepts of suicide, it is more like, I am going to eat some worms because you have been told never to do that. I had been told never to go down to the pond by myself which was about a half mile down the road. I went down there at once and walked right out into the middle of the pond where the ice was too thin and immediately went in. With boots etc. I sank at once. After the initial cold, I was warm and music came up and I heard and saw what I called the silver lady in my mind. She told me to be quiet and still and keep my mouth shut and pull myself across the pond by the pussy willows and then use them to climb out and so I did. Walking back was the painful part but when I got back my parents were gone and my grandparents took care of me. One the walk back the silver lady said now you are awake and aware and you will spend your life remembering. From that time on I felt like I could remove myself from everything and just observe so I could remember.

By the spring, I was feeling quite powerful. I spent a lot of time alone which was not considered unusual in those days. You did your chores and then you did what you wanted to do. Since two it had been my job to feed the chickens and gather the eggs. My grandmother taught me and it was not the big deal it would be considered today. You made friends by feeding them, you respected their territory, and you left the big mean rooster alone. I had my own chow dog, there was a pack of dogs running wild, the usual farm animals and lots of barn cats and wild animals near by.

I had a little grove I went to not far from a small natural spring and I could get the rabbits, deer, racoons, and skunks to come to me. I was feeling like the master of my universe. The wild dogs were always killing the cats. I loved the cats above all and they had lots of kittens. So one day I get all the dogs in a circle and I go around the circle with a two week old kitten in my hand slapping them on the nose and saying no more touching the kittens or the cats. First, success. Second, time good. So for good measure, I am going to go around a third time. Well, they snatch the kitten from my hand and kill it before my eyes and take all the kittens from the nest I had exposed. It was a lesson to the limits and consequences of power I never got over. I never wanted it in any form again.

I have told this story to show how long and how deep my motivation has been to understand. Finding this site and people like you feels like I now have all the outlines and borders to a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle done and chunks of sections of the interior done and can see it is now possible to finish the assembly.

Wade, you have given me much joy. And I have to read all your links and think on them and I will get back to you. But I want you to know that you immediately made a difference in my thinking.

Wade Frazier

20th January 2011, 21:34

Well met, Write4Change. Thank you very much for sharing of yourself in the way that you just did. That was very powerful. I am happy to have reached you. Maybe you can help change my thinking, too. Too much in your post to reply to at the moment, but I'll agree and say, yes, Brian's heart is one that I trust. Yes, there are not many like him around. Yes, what is happening is a bit synchronistic, and there is something probably more than meets the eye happening here. I am used to it, but also admit to being ambivalent when I can feel the tug of the strings that somebody or something has attached to me, because it has usually meant that a wild ride was ahead of me, and I am too old for that! :)

I welcome your awareness being contributed to what is happening here. We will see where this takes us.

Wade

Wade Frazier

20th January 2011, 23:29

On the subject of the thousands of people who are pursuing disruptive technology, free energy probably most importantly, when Greer was told that ten thousand people took the money:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

it made sense in a few ways, and I have already discussed some of them. Another way that it made sense was how many have been swallowed up into the black hole. From what I saw, far more efforts self-destruct or are snuffed out by others, or are derailed by the initial, low level tactics:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

than those that get to the level where they need to be bought out. I am going to make a swag and say that one-in-five efforts reaches the level where it needs the buyout (maybe it is less than one in ten, or maybe it is one in four, but most efforts do not have the right stuff to become a perceived threat). That means that there have been 50,000 efforts over the past couple of generations that made an attempt. Because most people would take the money, my guess is that less than a thousand efforts needed to get a Global Controller snuff job. Of what I have seen, those hypothetical 50,000 were not all pursuing free energy. Some were pursuing high MPG carburetors and other energy conservation technologies, not necessarily devices using exotic energy sources (almost all ZPF related), while some were pursuing anti-gravity and other related issues. There is almost certainly some overlap with the thousands of technologies that the U.S. has seized and classified for "national security" reasons (wink, nudge). Greer's number was given to him before all those thousands of Soviet bloc scientists came hawking their "black science" wares (and probably not one piece of their trove came to market).

So, so far, it looks like we might be 0-for-50,000. Not much of a batting average. Heck, I doubt that the Global Controllers ever had to get out the Big Guns for any effort ever made from the public's end of it.

When I hear that "thousands" of people are pursuing this stuff currently, at various levels, I think it is nothing that the Global Controllers can't handle. :) A bunch of fragmented efforts, all vying to establish their legitimacy, often chasing the same illusory funding opportunities, often at each other's throats, is pretty easy to derail. While the "open source" way is one of the few that even has a prayer, from what I have seen of that milieu, the chance seems pretty slim, and again, the approaches of garage inventors, raising money, and so on, are not those that I am very interested in. Been there, done that, repeatedly. I am trying to do something different.

But, there is good news, and a lot of it. The Global Controllers are deeply fractured, and the "white hats" might prevail. As I recall, more than one Camelot witness has said that they are being allowed to go public. How many disinformation specialists are in their ranks (or are being fed disinformation), I don't know. However, my own direct personal experience and the experience of those very close to me tells me that the fracturing is real and so is the opportunity for humanity to benefit from the outcome of that situation in ways that can be hard to imagine.

Also, I don't want to sit back and let our fate be decided by what is happening at those levels. It is our world, too. Who put them in charge? I do not acknowledge their authority in these realms. However, I think that it is quite likely that our near-term fate will be determined by what happens at that level. I understand people wanting to know what is happening up there. All I know is that there is a "white" side, and they are bigger players in that pond than they used to be. But I just keep my head down and take on what I see ahead of me. It is a very mixed blessing to play at the levels where you attract the Global Controllers' attention, as I can attest from experience.

Enough said for now.

Best,

Wade

Dale

21st January 2011, 01:32

But, there is good news, and a lot of it. The Global Controllers are deeply fractured, and the "white hats" might prevail.

There is certainly a strong possibility for both statements listed above.

We may very well be entering a "window" period, in which the opportunity for an alternative plan of action could greatly increase. We may see the light of a new dawn.

However, with the breaking of any new day, it will be up to us to create the events in which we will participate. I feel, deep in my heart, we have a chance at bringing forth an alternative solution, or possibly even solutions, to the ails of this tiny planet in space.

Wade Frazier

21st January 2011, 01:58

Thanks Dale.

Yes, the fracturing is when something positive can be more readily inserted. The fracturing is also rather obviously happening on a number of fronts: economically, environmentally, socially, arguably spiritually. The holographic notions may richly apply to this situation. Maintaining a positive vision in the mayhem may be one of the hardest things to achieve, but it may well be key.

Best,

Wade

write4change

21st January 2011, 05:24

Wade,

I am not good on the computer so you will have to bear with me on that issue. Or I am still too new to do things.

This is reply to post number 81.

I have spent most of the day on and off reading your posts. Then I took a two hour walk thinking about them and I can't believe how short the time seemed. I walked to grocery store and back.

What I think I am starting to get from this discussion is that the niche that I think in is what is really needed. Sociological implications and psychological acceptance--so I may get to write about the cultural aspects of all of this. Particularly, how the real rich think or to be more specific don't think. For example Meg Whitman essentially lost an election over her unwillingness to pay a maid. Incredibly stupid. A complete sustained visual of a woman who is supposed to have made a billion dollars understanding the consumer/citizen---who is unwilling to spend $8,000 making that person legal and giving them decent references and securing them a job elsewhere. Spending millions on election material and refusing a few thousand to make a major problem go away. Everyone who understands anything knows you don't make that person CEO of anything that matters which Ebay doesn't in reality. This kind of over reaching is the death of many of the elite from which their minions cannot save them. We should all bare this in mind when thinking about them.

And two academia has been highly corrupted. My two fields of occupation teaching and medicine, when I was growing up were still primarily populated by people who wanted to teach and heal. Now everything is about power, prestige, and money. The goal of Healing and teaching do not exclude making money, but the goal of making money by healing and teaching is an obstacle to the truth of those actions.

For people to appreciate this, I often suggest films which allow experience while removing heavy duty emotion. There is a movie called Dark Matter which stars Meryl Streep which is based on a true story that happened in Seattle. The story is about these major universities being subsidized by large corporations to recruit Chinese students in engineering and math. Essentially, they are unhatched eggs. One of them is an incredible math genius designing math equations and programs for computers to do astrological research. Much of this is based on the string theories of a nobel prize winner. When this student finds his theories do not work and comes up with dark matter and dark energy and the equations that work. They destroy him and he winds up selling avon cosmetics. The end of the story is that he kills himself with a shot gun but not before he takes out a lot of the faculty. In a strange way, it has a catharses of karmic justice.

write4change

21st January 2011, 05:48

I think this is very insightful thinking and should be extrapolated out more often. There should also be laws of justice which is what this country at least began as a guiding principle. Things like psychology have no laws either. But act like they do particularly with all this coding. We recently made the pathological normal by removing narcissistic personality disorder from the DMS. By the same token until 1976, homosexuality was legally defined mental illness as was a woman who failed to accept her biological role.

My appreciation for this post. I am replying to post 90.

write4change

21st January 2011, 07:00

This is a reply to post 99. I also did a lot of Seth in the late 70s early 80s in LA. I liked the books to some degree. I don't know if I still have some or not--haven't looked for them in a long time.. I think not. I will try to manifest some. In those days I used to go to the Bodhi Tree and hold out my hand and be lead to what I should read next. I have always had trouble with the channeling experience on a personal level but I have had some friends blow me away by their personal stories of personal readings. What I learned from this is how to manifest to a degree that I could handle. I am very very careful of be careful what you ask for in case you might get it. Since I was young then I tried it out on silly materialistic things--like asking for pieces of furniture, antiques, of non regulated sizes, unusual colors, and then cheap. I worked the antique circuit. But I stopped that when these highly expensive figurines I wanted but could never afford were made available to me when the antique store on the corner of Pico and Robertson was the victim of a major intersection auto accident and one car went through their window. I got to buy them for 400 and spent 800 having and expert repair them. I still have one. There is always an unseen price for manifesting this way; I don't do it any more at all. I can manifest but it has to be the right way, at the right time, for the right thing. Thus, it is not impulsive.

I share this because I have already on my meditative walk had many ideas pop into my head. I think I am basically going to stay on this thread for a considerable time and keep my focus on understanding this and my place in it. I just feel deeply drawn to it. I looked at the other threads and just have no feel for going there.

When I started the Michael reading, I was lead to buy this crystal ball. A very old and very unusual one. I never let anyone else touch it and every move I ever make I carry it personally with me. It is one thing I want to leave to someone personally who is right for it. I mediate with a single votive behind it. The first night I got it was the first time I experienced being able to put myself in a trance. Even now I have come to a lot more understanding about this from all the Graham Hancock material. After I got the ball I never discussed it with anyone and I am self taught. That first night I swam with dolphins and the whales around Can Cune. They told me they were offered being ascended from the planet but they decided to stay and sing their prayers of grief and gratitude for us and the dying planet. Afterwards I had a migraine for three days and I did not touch it again for six months.

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Reply to post 100. Have you ever seen the list of disappeared or dead microbiologists. It is really freaky and goes in definite waves.

modwiz

21st January 2011, 12:23

Hello Wade,
I am very glad that we have this thread going here and that you are so active in it. Given all you have been through and what you know I am sure we will accrue some benefit here at Avalon. I could not agree more with you about changing the awareness.
I grew up on the Seth material. I started with it when I was 18 and I will turn 58 in 4 days, so it has been a very big part of my life, when I am sober. I have 7+ months after a rough 10 year marriage and the coast looks clear and life is better every day. I look forward to coming here with some frequency. I am sure you know the Charles material is currently exerting an understandably strong draw here at Avalon and I am spending a lot of time there. This will be where I come when I take a break from there,
Be well,
Modwiz

Wade Frazier

21st January 2011, 14:14

Hi Write4Change, you are getting it. I came to this issue as a teenager from the business/science end of it, and eventually realized that the issues were not really technical and capital. The issues are really social and spiritual. It greatly helps, however, to have a comprehensive perspective of the issue. Without a comprehensive perspective:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

it is easy to disappear into all sorts of sideshows, as people hack at braches, grind their axes, and so forth.

This is far from easy. More than 99% of humanity is currently trapped in the early layers of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

I mostly live in layer 12.

This issue can use everybody thinking about it that can.

FYI, I have written the book on the medical racket:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm

The goals and dynamics are similar to the energy racket, although the tactics are different. Since Fishbein’s days,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#fishbein

I have not heard of buyout offers. They only use sticks on their heretics, and don’t see much need to use carrots.

I saw your other post directed to me, on the channeling. Yes, that is not something to do lightly, and if people use those powers selfishly, it can be disastrous. It is the same with free energy. We have to have the highest intentions if we want to manifest it for the benefit of all. Your part on the dolphins and whales is prescient. You are tuning in. You’ll see the post that I plan to put up this weekend. It came to me the other morning (I am on day 14 of a fast, and getting kind of blissful visions right now)

Best,

Wade

Hi modwiz:

Welcome to this thread. Thanks for lending your awareness to this subject material. We will see how this plays out,

Wade

rosie

21st January 2011, 15:04

Dear Wade,
I have a very strong feeling that free energy will become available through beautiful people like yourself, but only after a very big earth catastrophe. This is why people like yourself have this vision and risk all so that it can be in the mainstream and pulled out when needed. Your guide from the other realm must be a soul mate of yours, as I feel they tend to be more persistent, and watchful then a "teacher" guide. :angel:

I hope and pray when the SHTF you will be protected, along with others with your vision quest of free energy for all.
There will be a day, when all will change, and I do not say this as the bringer of bad news, it is in the stars The cycle of life and death is all part of this dimension, this cannot be stopped. But with people like yourself, the survivors may have a chance to continue down a more "fair" world, where all the power is not held by the people who hold on to the energy with greed and selfishness.

I do not see an end to this world with all the earth changes, I see a cleansing taken place, nature will naturally root out the weak, and keep the strong, and it will be the strong ones with this vision of free energy who will make the difference for the future of mankind.

Thank you for putting it all "out there"! This thread is a very important one indeed!
in love & light:love:

Wade Frazier

21st January 2011, 16:15

Thank you Rosie. That was a beautiful post. Yes, you may be right, and part of me realizes that whatever people like me do may be too little, too late, because of the trajectory that the mass of humanity is on, with the Pied Pipers of Scarcity leading the way. You can probably imagine the frustration of knowing how it could be, and so easily, if only a tiny fraction of us began waking up, and comparing it to what is. But maybe a relatively easy transition to a healed planet and humanity is not in the cards, and that "guide" of mine has certainly been meddlesome. :)

But, in the end, I asked for it, in ways that are even obvious to me with my earthbound perspective. However, I still wish for the highest and best, and I hope that I live to see a healed planet and as many of us making that transition to heaven on earth as who can get aboard that train.

As you may guess, I am continually told to stop my efforts, sit back and let it all melt down, because that is somehow what is supposed to happen, or that there is no "doing" here, only witnessing. Well, I must be hard-headed, because I think that I have two arms and legs for a reason. We will see how this all turns out, and thank you for lending your awareness to this issue.

Wade

modwiz

21st January 2011, 23:30

I just got here and saw the name Fishbein. Morris Fishbein if memory serves me correctly. He couldn't corrupt Royal Rife so he destroyed him. He and his ilk are vermin in this world and a light is beginning to expose these roaches. They infect and attempt to parasitize every worthwhile venture that has a potential for profit. I would love to see these Ferengi, these aliens, quarantined so that the rest of us could attempt to lead a disinfected life. Awareness and consciousness raising is probably the way to remedy this social ill, as you so sagaciously recommend.

Wade Frazier

21st January 2011, 23:53

Hi modwiz:

Yes, it is the same guy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

Ah, you know, Fishbein was one of us. In a scarcity-based system, the Fishbeins of the world thrive. I seek to help drain the swamp so that such games do not work too well, and in a world of abundance, why would they want to? Fishbein has been compared to Hitler by some, as far as how much death and suffering that he had a hand in. I am gentler and call him the Al Capone of medicine (working similar rackets in the same town at the same time, and their tactics were also similar at times). And Al, too, was one of us.

Yes, becoming immune to their games, because we have raised our awareness, is the only way out that I see. I doubt that they can be beaten in "battle." They are in our lives for a reason. Love is always the answer. Even Quark (and Fishbein did kind of look like him :) ) had his heroic moments although he tried to live them down and act more like a true Ferengi, or at least appear to be one. :)

Best,

Wade

modwiz

22nd January 2011, 00:16

bluestflame

22nd January 2011, 00:31

when we change ourselves at the deepest level , they, in turn, either change, or direct thier energies elsewhere

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 01:37

Thanks Modwiz. Quark is one of my faves. He almost can't help himself. :)

Hi Bluestflame. I think that you are right, but they usually don't give up easily, because sucking our energy is how they decided they need to thrive (scarcity-based paradigm to the max). If I could have a hand in rehabilitating that lion:

http://www.serendipity.li/fe/minefields.htm

I would probably sign up for it, fool that I am.

Best,

Wade

bluestflame

22nd January 2011, 01:38

methinks we already have lol

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 02:10

You are probably right. Get those vegetarian lion snacks ready... :)

bluestflame

22nd January 2011, 02:25

redirecting thier awareness, to the divine spark within them, that, it seems, for the longest time, has escaped even thier own attention

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 03:08

Yessir, and losing that awareness seems to be part of the price of admission.

Luke

22nd January 2011, 09:55

Yessir, and losing that awareness seems to be part of the price of admission.

Indeed.
There are people who thrive in this system. You can live in abundance even here .. if you do not afraid some skeletons in the closet. And people are more than wiling to do that. Moreso - they think there is no other way to thrive.
Then we have self-proclaimed' elite that look for specific qualities in those trained to be their "replacements" .. one of which is blind belief in necessity of the system itself.

System is designed to leech energy from "many" to selected few. Bureaucratic "walls" disperse the rest of it, so on the outside it looks like "zero"

Think anybody, who dig enough into how world works, see this. Some decide to opt out, and live in obscurity. Some decide, that is how the game is rigged, well, why not use it to your advantage. ..

And in the end :
3944

/rant.

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 10:13

Yes, Luke:

The Zero-Sum-Game is deeply ingrained.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics

That is one of the key parts of the conundrum. Scarcity-based conditioning is as old as civilization (and far older), so abundance is literally unimaginable to the vast majority of humanity at this time. That is why even the idea of free energy is so outside the pale.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#potholes

Most will have to see it to believe it.

Nice chart on hierarchical economic systems. :)

Best,

Wade

OMG

22nd January 2011, 12:12

Wade said: “In my old age, I am trying something different; I am simply trying to make free energy, abundance, and a healed planet thinkable. I am not asking anybody to risk their lives:” http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=91386&viewfull=1#post91386

Bill said: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11154-Charles-comments-about-a-False-Flag-ET-threat-event-important-new-information&p=102168&viewfull=1#post102168 (Note: This link concerns how the controllers deal with “Proof”.)

Pay careful attention. What Wade is speaking about in his new approach is no less PROOF of free energy than his original attempt at a mechanism of free energy. As such, is it likely that the controllers would allow Wade to communicate his “thinkable” seeds towards this end? No.

Why allow him to speak? Maybe they don’t see his new approach as a threat or reaching a critical mass in the pertinent future. Is it not likely that if they felt critical mass was going to actually transpire they would suppress and contain the situation? Of course.

So, what on earth could Wade, Bill, or anyone else for that matter, possibly do that would REALLY be effectual? NOTHING.

That is, unless there are some authorities ABOVE the current “controllers” who would intervene. Of course it’s been argued that if They haven’t intervened with all of the wars and social horrors to date, etc, then are they relevant?

But what if They have been intervening all along? And the collective or mass perceptions cannot see how because they aren’t looking in the correct way.

For example: It’s been suggested that there is little to no value in the individual outside of working as a mechanism for the “controllers”. The proof being in a systematic reduction through time of individual freedoms, etc. Or even that there are “controllers”.

Well, let us consider that relevance supporting the individual and their freedom must have always been and is even now accessible. This would mean that at no time in history, or in the future can an individual be beyond the scope of salvation, if you will.

What if the premise of a sovereign free earth (or universe) is actually irrelevant? That is to say, to exteriorize such freedom into manifested existence is against the nature of why manifested existence IS. Look carefully at our universe and its polarity based structure. In such a matrix you cannot have an operating system without dichotomy and binding force between the two (good/evil, light/day, proton/electron, etc). The most realistic perspective of this matrix is that in any given period of time there will be either negative oriented beings (service to self) or positive oriented beings (service to others) in charge. This polarity based system is self contained and redundant, potentially infinite.

So, if one wishes to find a freedom or solution by which they can escape this redundancy then it has to either change the polarity based laws of this universe, or go beyond this universe. And of course to do either would require a POWER that is quite literally BEYOND.

It’s a mystery, but accessible none the less. Rests assure that this POWER is accessible in the NOW… Be STILL and KNOW that I AM…!

Gnosis – often referred to as secret or hidden knowledge can be more aptly described as knowledge we acquire through our own experience, as opposed to knowledge that we are told or believe in. By whatever name in history or culture – Gnosis is conscious, experiential knowledge, not merely intellectual or conceptual knowledge, belief, or theory.

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 13:39

Hi OMG:

Thanks for the thoughtful post. I know that I cannot sneak up on them, but I think that if I do not threaten them (that would be delusional on a number of levels, not the least of which is that I would enter the victim paradigm and become easy meat), they will regard me as a low-level nuisance at most. And yes, factions of them might be “allowing” me to do this, and other factions may be “protecting” me. I know that they are not ignoring me. I hope that my efforts fall about where I have placed them on this graph:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

Again, they are deeply fractured, and have been that way for many years. Their control is not nearly as total as they believe and, yes, some kind of intervention from “above” (or from “within”) may be in the cards in the near future. That post that Bill made I think describes vital facets of the phenomenon. As you probably know, I am quite familiar with that duality concept and this universe:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#ra

and indeed, duality seems to be the name of the game here. However, I think that something might be afoot, for those who are ready for it. We may see a merging of the dimensions, a uniting of the opposites, or other terms (The Second Coming, Paradise Restored, etc.) that have been used to describe it. It may well be that those who are ready for it will go 4-D and leave duality behind (but it will look a lot like our world today, but the “controllers” won’t be there; controlling is a duality concept).

I can’t say that I have it all figured out, but your ending comment on gnosis is one that I strongly resonate with. What I know is there is a lot more than meets the eye happening here, on a few levels. I just keep engaging what I see ahead of me, and have “faith” (I really do not like that word, but I see its arguable propriety here) that seeking the truth is its own reward, no matter what the practical ramifications might seem to be. I have had “divine surprises” on my journey that have been so dramatic that I will never count humanity totally out of the game, as far as shedding their shackles. Those who pull the strings on Earth do it with our consent, in the big picture, but we can also decide to wake up and leave this game behind. The dark half may also be redeemed in the process, as much as it may disgust them to think about it, but love can work miracles, in ways that can seem preposterous to the reasonable ones among us. That, I know. :)

Thanks again,

Wade

Luke

22nd January 2011, 15:18

I feel strongly , that there are some kind of "universal laws", that say that access to the knowledge of how worlds work cannot be blocked. Throughout the history we see, that knowledge cannot be eradicated .. only hidden for the while. When one start a quest, the opportunities open.

That does not say that effort cannot be discouraged.

And some forces are mighty good at this.
They will use every opportunity that will present for them too.

That is why understanding the broad rules : communication, attraction, intent, allowance, balance is crucial. Only when one understand those, something can be built.

Building is only as strong as his foundations.

Eric

22nd January 2011, 15:50

Wade

lots more interesting posts.
Dan Burisch said that we had jumped time lines ... IYO does this seem like its playing out differently ie. we're not heading for catastrophy.
and also i was greatly intrigued by Pete Petersons " Information Field" ideas,
it struck a chord with my own apparent "downloads" for want of a better phrase.

any comments ?

Cheers eric

ps does this mean i have to read the Ra material also ? lol

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 16:10

You got it, Luke. Without a strong foundation of understanding some critical essentials, I doubt that any free energy effort has a prayer. But personal integrity has always been and will always be the key ingredient (AKA “love”). Organized suppression is a facet, but it only explains about 10% of why we do not have free energy today. Most of the scarcity-based indoctrination that we are fed is not “conspiratorial,” but relatively well-intended but misguided actions like forcing children to pledge allegiance to a flag:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

to achieve “social cohesion,” and so on. Almost everybody doing the indoctrinating actually believes in it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

We are our own prison guards. :)

Only a relative few are consciously using it to manage the herd, keeping it safely within its pen, to be stampeded in various directions when the need suits them. The conscious shepherds are startlingly few.

It is a very multifaceted beast, but the way out begins in the heart, not the head, IMO. We will see if any faint outlines of a foundation begin to take shape. :)

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 16:35

Hi Eric:

As my buddy Seth once said, each morning when you leave your house, you are opening the door to a new probable reality, and you are the creator of that probable reality that lies ahead of you (we are co-creating this one, but anybody who wants out can theoretically blaze a different path – again, the idea that we create our own realities seems ridiculous, but in one of Michael Roads’s books, he achieved a state where he could see that so-called physical reality was a mass hallucination that all of its “inhabitants” were co-creating - mind-blowing, but that comes with such territory :) ).

We are jumping the timelines in each moment of our lives. I can’t close my eyes and chant and end up back in Kansas, much less bring Toto along, but yes, I consider it quite possible that many of the most dire prophecies may have been averted, but to the extent that they have been, it is because we have been slowly waking up, however fitful the process has been. And you do not have be a dreamy New Ager to see evidence of that. The USA, for instance, is not nearly as racist and sexist as it was in my childhood. “Jokes” that our fathers would tell to me and my friends would go over like lead balloons in today’s polite company, and a lot of frontier “humor,”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#rapists

would be received in horror by audiences of today. Times are much better, in many ways, than they were not long ago. And in many ways, they are worse. One astute pal says that things are getting better and better, and worse and worse, faster and faster. :)

I get it. The ride might get pretty wild in the near future, but I have had enough rollercoastering in my life, and would rather have a nice, easy entry into heaven on earth, but whoever sent me here may have other ideas. :)

I consider the Ra Material, the Michael Material and the Seth Material about the three most compelling bodies of channeled work out there. Many do not like Michael, with his categories, and many do not like Seth, for various reasons, but I have never encountered anybody who dissed Ra (until, perhaps, somebody in this forum pipes up :) ). Stunning material.

Best,

Wade

write4change

22nd January 2011, 18:17

Good morning, Wade,

Your thoughts now follow or accompany me every where. I would like to hurry up and do "it". Whatever it is. But that is the deal, I don't know what it is yet. And you have given me so much, and I am not yet finished, to process. I am in deep observer mode. Plus remembering. I have not read the Seth or Michael materials for at least 30 years. Insteresting Michael is what I remember least and remember liking more. I have asked the universe to manifest them in goodwill or salvation army so we shall see.

Last night I went to party of reunion for UCLA architectural graduates. It was held a opening of a remodeled craftsmen into bauhaus. An interesting combination. Also a bunch of real estate people because these are the people who are going back to flipping houses. I am an graduate of UCLA's interior and environmental design 82.

Minimalism has arrived for this upper middle class group. These built in closets refect that the idea of owning 100s of pairs of shoes has passed.
Very little furniture of any kind. This is because no one is going into debt for anything. It is pay as you go. Money is spent on computers, media centers, and musical instruments. Saw nothing Big but much stuff of multiple uses. These people are really marrying and having children late. First children mid forties and only one.

They are still not into insulation. I have tried many times over the years to explain that the difference between using R 13 everywhere and R 32 is about 1500 bucks and you will usually make that back in less than one year in utility bills. In fact, it remains disappointing to me but something I see over and over that these kinds of professions are not into "change" at all but incremental improvement which to me is same song second verse. Everyone is pretending they are not aging. They laugh about the old are into doom and gloom and the young are into this is my time and they are the only significant buyers now.

I came home to find Keith Oberman had been axed as soon as the ink dried on the comcast merger. So if you are effectively speaking truth to power you are gone. And Keith was smart to quietly settle. But that is there in everyone's face. Proof you are not going to be allowed to effectively change anything.

My choice factor now is to I try to survive and help as many people to survive as possible if this catastrophe is really coming. Or do I just go within and be like the whales and the dophins? I hate acts of futility and wastes of energy. Being with this group--and I have not done this kind of interaction for years, I am aware of how very comfortable I have become being essentially alone. The person I went with is a woman, a 99er, in denial about the fact she is not going to get another job--she is not quite 62. Except for me she was the oldest person there and she brought me I observed to be comfortable and have some one to anchor and chat with. Her big purpose was to pass around her business cards.

The conversations I love to listen to are these gray haired men who have just been married for a year or two or so having their first children as a young fifty and talking about their sensations of time. I say nothing but their "planning" astounds me. I had a child essentially at 20 and another at 40 round numbers. That has been a big example of learning on different planes. One of the things we learn when we have children young is to forgive our parents a lot immediately when we find out how tough parenting is and even more so when you really don't know who you are yet.
Parenting older is more patient, more poignant seeing the world thru another pair of eyes opening to consciousness and understanding what that is, and having more ability to flow. I was blessed to have the continuing connection. Older parents for the first time, are totally disconnected from their parents and their past and most have never made the understanding and the reconciliation between the two.

For the first time in this kind of gathering the focus is not near so much on money per se. Now it is time. How to both "marshall it" and preserve it.

This group considers being green the new spiritual manifestation. So I viscerally understood how far we have to go if there is a short time.

If I knew for sure there was only a short time, I would be into manifesting money at once and moving to where I thought we could make it. My goal would be to take 36 people who we all consciously selected to survive. I would also encourage others to watch how we were doing it and do something similar in their own way.

If we have time, I am content to wait this 2012 stuff out and let everyone calm down to some degree. Quietly manifest enough money to still live and thrive and leave something substantial to sustain the future which would have to be first a sustainable vision.

I have been called and I am comfortable with perceiving myself as a rational mystic which is a paradox the state I always live in. Right now this feels like a time of choosing and people like you and Brian will have a great deal of influence on my choices.

From last night, a couple of us are going out to hunt old books today. But I wanted to write and let you know I am deeply immersed in what you have written. I consider an excellent foundation of building almost everything I consider important which allows me to paint some aspects with more detail when I have finished pondering all this.

I hope that my presence enriches your experience as much as you have mine. Peace.

OneOfThePeople

22nd January 2011, 21:00

Wade,

Your desire for humanity to reclaim their IMAGINATION resonates with me, big time. You said:

"Until we begin acting like creators instead of victims, operating from love instead of fear, this nightmare will continue. This is the most difficult conundrum that I know of, and I think that replacing the scarcity paradigm with the abundance paradigm will demand the best of all of us."

and

"Again, this is a conundrum the likes I have never heard of in anything else. In the end, if we can just become aware, acknowledge the situation and dare to imagine something better, it might be enough. If it is not enough, at least it would be a good start. Nothing else has ever come close to making a dent."

The conundrum exists, and is perpetuated, by the minds and hearts of individuals being given away to outside forces. When people begin exercising their imagination, the world will change. Unfortunatley, I am not a scientist, so my focus has been on the illusion of scarcity created by fiat currency systems. The phony money system keeps us rats running on the wheel. We fight for scraps as if that is all that exists. It always amazes me how difficult it is to convince someone a $100 bill is a piece of used paper. PAPER! I won't go into it, but I'm sure you understand how the currency system is a huge tool of control, yet everyone plays the game. Why?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10870-Bill-Ryan-s-50-minute-video-commentary-on-the-Charles-interview-just-published&p=94253&viewfull=1#post94253

What is the best way to create a new paradigm? Most people don't even realize there is a problem. I have studied how people change for years. Inducing change in someone else is a tough skill. Most people who are successful at changing the minds of others agree on one thing. You have to bypass the conscious mind because it always resists. TPTB know this which is why their television programming molds the minds of viewers by disguising commands as "entertainment". Stories. If we only had control of the TV networks for a day! Wade, your story of how a day may be in an abundant environment is awesome. That is what it takes to create change. Imagine how it would be. Imagine it in detail, and imagine it often. Love what you imagine.

Anyway, I created a tool that helps me start conversations with anyone about these things. You would be surprised what the average Joe has to say when you let them know it is OK to open up. It is a 1 ounce silver round with a spiritual theme and symbols intended to remind us of the truth. Abundance. My avatar is the back of the coin, and my profile pic is the front. We are infinite flowing energy steered by IMAGINATION.

Imagine the universe beautiful and just and perfect. Then be sure of one thing: The Is has imagined it quite a bit better than you have. -Richard Bach

This thread rocks! Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful posts. :)

Wade Frazier

22nd January 2011, 21:36

Hi Write4Change:

Not many forum posts or emails over the years have ever brought tears to my eyes, but that one did (not a flood, but some mist :) ). There is so much to “say,” and the obvious depth behind your post could be plumbed for quite some time. A la Michael, impatience is apparently my chief feature:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

so, when people state that they feel a great sense of urgency, believe me, I understand. Impatience aside, I also feel that time is short, on several levels.

I am somewhat prepared if a big storm comes ripping through Western “civilization,” tearing down the old, fearful and calcified structures to make way for a new and loving paradigm:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming

but I have always hoped that it would not have to be that way. If we awaken enough, we do not need to have a cannonball crash through the bedroom wall as our reveille, and we can lovingly dismantle the old to make way for the new (or the new can begin its manifestation by putting the old to bed, as a faithful friend would). Humanity’s collective ego, however, does not seem to want to entertain that possibility, at least for now. :)

As you are seeing in your circles, there is not much genuine new thinking being manifested in today’s world, but variations of the same old song that everybody knows by heart. Even as people’s lives crumble, their minds stay within the dominant, scarcity-based paradigms, and they go “green,” think that austerity is a solution, and so on. I hardly know where to begin engaging them, and I pretty much stopped trying long ago, although I often can’t help myself from throwing out a little hint, to see if there might be a prayer. Not many are ready for what may be around the corner, but ready or not, here comes the future, and it could get hairy, but I pray for the soft landing.

Recently, I have had occasion to write privately about my days with Dennis. It seems that I am eternally doomed to rehash those days, usually to help educate people. It took me nearly a year, after I started it, to finish this essay, http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm, for instance, because the process took so much out of me. If you saw the private version of it, much would seem like I had gone off the deep end into tall-tale-telling, and I regularly have to stand back for a minute in wonder, as think about my journey. It sometimes is hard for me to believe what I lived through, and I was, you might say, there. :)

In the end, our awareness is all that we take with us, and part of me deeply resists the idea that I was launched on my preposterous journey to only be doomed to watch it all crumble into a heap, and Scotty is nowhere near, ready to beam me up. If I helped melt down Atlantis, maybe I am getting my richly-deserved karma, but God, haven’t I learned my lesson yet? I don’t know. I like to think that I am going to live to see, if not a happy ending, at least a trajectory that makes that possible future:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

somewhere on the scale of realistic by the time I cash in my chips. If not, then that is the way it goes, and I am probably going to pass over pretty pissed off and dismayed, although I am doing what I can to come to a place of loving acceptance, no matter what may come through my front door. That is a lot easier said than done, however. :)

I can only do what I can with what I have, and Bill has thrown me a lifeline by starting this forum that nobody has provided me for a long, long, time.

My recent writings, fortunately, have not been all about reliving the agony of my adventures, but I sometimes get to recall the exhilaration and awe of those times, when I thought that we really had a chance to change the world in ways that I can still barely imagine. I still dream that we can, but I do not want to, and cannot afford to, play the Indiana Jones game anymore. I would take the Muppet Movie ending in a heartbeat:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

and I will be happy to stand in line to get my very own free energy machine.

On other notes, Olbermann is in good company, I am sad to say:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#arnett

His fate is another symptom of our collective malaise, although he probably won’t be sleeping under a bridge anytime soon.

Again, the simple act of bringing your awareness to these issues I think is plenty. I truly think that if enough of us just became aware, the nightmare could end. Nobody needs to rush out and “do” anything. Manifesting high levels of heart-centered awareness, if only in the privacy of your home, is hitting lofty notes that today’s world greatly needs, and it has its effect in ways that we cannot know. I am not saying that nobody needs to “do” anything, but raising our awareness is probably the most important step.

We will see what the year brings, and yes, I wonder what will come to pass in 2012, and I am doing my best to be present and accounted for, if the End Times roll call is made. However, I hope that it is only the beginning of the party. We will see.

Thanks again for simply lending your awareness to these issues,

Wade

OMG

23rd January 2011, 05:08

I just keep engaging what I see ahead of me, and have “faith” (I really do not like that word, but I see its arguable propriety here) that seeking the truth is its own reward, no matter what the practical ramifications might seem to be.

Faith is NOT beLIEf

One’s belief may be correct or incorrect, factual or not, but unfortunately is all too often based on hearsay, speculation, opinion, etc.

It has been alluded that around the 13-14th century the monks and priest of Christianity changed the meaning of faith to that of belief so they could spread their doctrine more effectively.

Faith and gnosis both mean something which we have confirmed through our experience which is true. In ancient times when people gave a pledge they said “I give faith”, meaning they gave their word. In the English language we still have small remnant of this word by saying that someone is unfaithful. Meaning they have broken their word. To be unfaithful does not mean that we don’t believe. Belief is not the same as faith.

Faith relates with trust, experience, conviction, knowledge, truth. Without faith there is no spirituality or gnosis. On a very profound level those with true faith do not need to believe. Genuine faith is living knowledge, exact cognition and direct experience.

Namaste

write4change

23rd January 2011, 21:57

Wade,

I have not read your links yet. But I will and probably write again later. As I am coming to understand how this site works, I cannot always find this thread. Then I found the place which shows the top 30, I think, threads running and yours is always on the bottom which is good enough. But I understand that if we continue to share thoughts and do it well people will continue to read an on going dialogue. What I have decided is that on a whole I would rather stay focused on a small intensely informative thread than react to things I have no power over. So my conclusion is that the more we write the more time you will spend on that list and the more people will read your foundation of information.

On the power of reaction, there was a thread yesterday that appeared briefly asking people if they sat around a conference table with decision making people what would be their ideas for reducing the population pretty substantially without a lot of pain. This is something I think about all the time. It is probably the key to a soft landing if we have nothing physically catastrophic. (What are we going to get from our leaders--competitiveness.) Remember, I consider myself a rational mystic which means to me that god gave you a hand and if you want help you have to look at the end of your wrist first.

Population control was being recognized as a major problem and effective birth control was discovered and was manifested. Then the choice has been to increasingly make it less not more available. If I were a god who inspired and rewarded creativity, I would be bitterly disappointed.

I recently saw a movie call Extraordinary Measures with Harrison Ford. It is basically about medical research. It is supposed to be an uplifting miracle heart beat story. I saw it as a picture of the current practice of medicine by spread sheet and its rewards. Out of that paradigm, there will never be another Jonas Salk and he is loosing role model visibility because today he would be considered a fool for giving away what could make him Croesus.

On the major political site of which I am a trustee and seriously considering quiting to come here---the spirituality which must go hand and hand with science is taboo and consider fairy airy. However, here while there seems to be recognition of both the reality of the problems and the real depth of the problems, the idea of fairy airy responses is good enough. I wrote a long answer with 7 numbered paragraphs. They were certainly points of discussion that I was interested in a response to. I actually thought that people would give me some ides of how they viewed each specific issue with their own sense of spirituality.

All of the posts before mine were essentially love, love, love. But if you are at table of people who can implement decisions what does that mean? The only thing you have to offer is a chant? Most people seriously do not believe in love because they have never really experienced it and that is especially true of 33. Love is action. If you are at a plane crash site and you are an ER nurse--the first thing you do is Triage. Which requires thinking with compassion; there is an order to treatment. Bleeding first. If the grandmother is bleeding out and the grandchild is bleeding out. You save the child first. You did not love the grandmother less. There is a difference in the reality of needs. That is where we are as a planet.

Essentially, no one took up any issue of my post. One person did go look at my profile which I guess will say nothing until I am no longer a provisional member which requires 50 post which at the rate I am going will be in about two weeks. A second, and a lifetime. All the posts after mine were fairy airy and essentially that ended the tread. This has given me pause do I want to end my relationship with the political site?

I have come to the conclusion that nothing will change by increments in politics ever. But policies do have bearing on the now. And some are better than others. Some of it is just playing for time against evil. But it is doing something.

Meanwhile, I chant -- it keeps me grounded and centered--cleans out some of my personal space. And then I come here to find a way to implement the two and it is a different sound. Maybe no fury but no cohesion and no sense of that is a really big deal. We know they have sound weapons for crowd control. We have some ideas that sound waves cross the universe eventually intact. We speculate that it was sound technology that may have raised the pyramid stones since many of them are too big for us now with cranes. We see this is front of our faces and we still think we have time for fairy airy? Fairy airy is going to get you a seat at the table?

What your story and your foundation offers parallels mine in these ways: 1. you know who you are now, 2. you know how you got here, 3. you know what was right about it and what you what you might do differently now within a larger context, 4. you have an integrated core of heart, mind, body, and soul all standing united and linked to the same foundation. A simple word is integrity. But the true meaning is only understood through the tempering of the steel of a lifetime.

It seems we both learned ours from the mentoring of older wiser souls that allowed us to stand on their shoulders and see higher and clearer and felt that they had a duty to do so. I do think my generation bares a lot of negativity for destroying that. It is we who started "never trust anyone over thirty" and "love means never having to say your sorry." What nonsense. Love especially means learning to say you are sorry. It is not weakness but wisdom to learn you should have and will in the future do something different.

Later, I will take up the issue of imagination and how that manifested these last couple of days.

Peace, Jai

Wade Frazier

23rd January 2011, 22:03

This forum is getting too popular! :) It took me hours to get through to the server to post this response.

Sorry, but I am not going to be able to get my dolphins/whale post written this weekend (other writing chores trumped it), but I recently published a little something on my recent encounters with dolphins:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#dolphins

Hi OMG:

I’ll buy your explanation.

Thanks,

Wade

Hi OneOfThePeople:

That is a big subject that I write about plenty. Yes, money is a complete illusion, and people are taught to worship pieces of paper, whether they are means of exchange, holy books, or secular scripture like the American Constitution.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#iroquois

American children are taught to worship a piece of colored cloth:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

It is the downside of humanity’s ability to think abstractly and confuse symbols with reality.

My experience is that people’s seeming inability to learn something new (or “change their minds”) is not a problem of the mind but of the heart. People largely live in fear, and they have all dug in and carved out their niches in their scarcity-based world, and they won’t budge.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#enlightened

I have found that it is about scarcity-based indoctrination and ego, not really “intelligence”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#intelligence2

If people are trying to bypass a person’s survival mechanisms, then yes, they try to bypass the conscious mind. However, that tactic certainly will not work for understanding work like mine. The masses will begin to believe in free energy when somebody delivers it to their home, like Machiavelli once observed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

I am seeking people who are less than one-in-a-hundred in the general population. It might be as little as one-in-a-thousand; people who have a love of the truth and can get to layer 12 of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

It all begins in the heart, IMO. Love is the answer and always will be.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

23rd January 2011, 22:25

Hi Jai:

A few clarifications and key parts of my message…

Today’s world population is completely irrelevant, as far as our burden on earth’s ecosystems goes, if free energy was wisely implemented. With an abundance-based economy, twenty billion humans could live on earth with virtually no environmental impact:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

That is not airy fairy at all, but very real. But until people develop comprehensive perspectives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

they tend to get spun up on all sorts of sideshows, such as pursuing “political” solutions.

I see that the neo-Malthusians have been influential:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#heinberg

I am not so sure that Salk was on the right track:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination

Yes, the New Agey, love, love, love is not too cerebral. The New Agers are not my target audience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

There has to be a heart-mind connection, with the heart leading the way, to arrive at real solutions.

Economics is the dog, and politics is the tail:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics

and energy has run all economies for all time.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#economics

Yes, I almost hate to say it, but until we try out our bright ideas in the real world, we are probably navel-contemplating.

My busy work week looms. Please don’t fret about where this thread shows up in the forum. For those who thirst for the truth and real answers, they will find their way.

Best,

Wade

write4change

24th January 2011, 09:30

Bon Soir, Mon Ami,

It is after 2 AM and I have been reading your links since 9PM. I have had to get 5 by 8 cards to take notes so I can either check things out more on google, come back to these links, keep track etc. It took me awhile to see that what I have read turns pink. I hope it stays that way and does not return to original color after I click off.

I disliked the vision of the dark road stories so bad, I had to stay up another couple of hours to remove it from the forefront of my consciousness.

I see what you mean about the site. In the late afternoon I could not access. And going to the top 30 is how I access the thread. I am by nature an night owl so I can see following all your links is much easier at night. However, I am on both sensory overload and intellectual stimulation over load.

I am addicted to your material and cannot decide if it is both urgent and important or just important. And feelings about that on your side?

I ran for major of Culver City in 1988. One woman against 9 men. I learned a lot from that experience. I did not win and I knew that was impossible from the get go< I wanted to see if I could change the paradigm of the election. My goal was to defeat the 16 year incumbent major and his 12 year cohort. This I did. The mayor was so blown out of the water-he lived a block from me-that he sold his home and moved to Seattle. I moved to Las Vegas and I entered the field knowing I was going to Las Vegas. That was the beginning of looking at all political struggles differently. As I moved from place to place I have noticed the connections of almost all local elections through the Chamber of Commerce.

I have no idea why I wrote the above paragraph or what point it was supposed to illustrate. i am leaving it -- hoping it may be there for a reason. What I can see is that I am so fatigued now that I am no longer making sense.

So adieu to you and I hope all your links. I fear they will dance in my head once I go to bed. LOL

Peace, Jai

Wade Frazier

24th January 2011, 15:24

Hi Jai:

I spent the past two weekends writing a twenty-page account of key parts of my journey with Dennis, for an author friend. The published accounts of my adventures only hint at what kind of ride I had. Again, I was groomed for my journey almost from birth, and in some ways, I feel that I was some kind of prize-winning variety of animal that was lovingly fed and reared from infancy, to get a ribbon in my hair as I was slaughtered at a festival.

All the grooming, by world-class minds, all the experiences before the nightmare years, the voice in my head at critical moments (only after I asked for it, after feeling events back me into a corner), the crazy years with Dennis; if nothing else, I was living an odyssey that was far from dull. I did not begin my journey thinking that it all hinged on the energy situation; I only began seeing that as I developed my comprehensive perspective (without understanding that that was what I was doing http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller ). It is also easy for the ego to get seduced by the situation’s immensity. I had to deal with fleeting delusions of grandeur early in my journey,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

and I believed that arrogance was my chief feature before I got my Michael reading:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

we usually cannot read ourselves because our egos get in the way. So, yes, not only is the subject matter important, but these might just be the most urgent times in humanity’s history, and I think that many, if not most, people understand that on some level.

If we do not solve the energy issue, and fast (and it has already been solved, long ago, at the Global Controller level, but they do not have a loving heart, collectively, so we do not get the goodies for now), the rest will not matter. I do it on my site repeatedly, to one degree or another, but my upcoming essay is intended to help people, especially non-scientists, begin to develop comprehensive perspectives. If they do, it will become extremely obvious that humanity always has ridden and always will ride atop the energy situation. From the beginnings of life on this planet, through the long evolutionary journey that led to upright apes, through the human journey and its epochal phases:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

the energy issue is clear, but really, it is about humanity becoming a truly sentient species. It is an issue of the heart, not the head, and it is a conundrum that I have never seen anywhere else. At its root, it is the fear-love duality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

I know of no other “activist” effort on Earth where the participants are offered tens of billions of dollars to cease their efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

and almost nobody has any understanding, as “activists” the world over ineffectually hack at the situation’s branches, trying to ameliorate the effects of our scarcity-based paradigms, never trying to see where it all springs from.

So, yes, I know of no more important or urgent situation than this one. However, I was in the saddle with Indiana Jones during my awakening process, and saw the downsides of playing Indiana Jones. When bullets are whizzing past your head every minute, and you wear out your whip each day, you begin to use your whip on everything. There is a place for Indiana Jones, and a key one, but very few can play that game. I believe that more people need to understand the situation that we all find ourselves in, why there are Indiana Joneses and why the bullets are whizzing past their heads at every turn.

But, we need lovers, not fighters, to take this over the top. We need people who are awake, not asleep. We need people who understand that the means become the ends.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#done

In the end, there are no “bad guys” to tackle (that is the victim game, and we need to begin playing the creator game). There is no gathering of saints to give this problem to. There is only us, and we are all in this together, in ways that are difficult to comprehend.

The antidote to the dark Roads vision:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

is to read the positive one right after it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

In his book, Roads himself said that as he began to experience the positive reality right after the negative one, he could see why his mentor did it in that order, so he could feel the expansion after the contraction. I have seen people treat his visions as some sort of science fiction fantasy. I don’t. I know people who have also visited such realities, people who then bring back earthshaking inventions.

You are tuning in. When I moved to LA, I first lived in Culver City before I moved to Redondo, and one of my co-workers was from Culver City. He targeted his home town, Culver City (he said that he was playing the big fish in a small pond game), to begin his political activities. You probably ran against him in that election. :)

Gotta go to work now.

Best,

Wade

Jean-Luc

24th January 2011, 19:15

Hello Wade
Although a long time friend and active member of Project Camelot/Avalon, this is my first post on the forum which I am happy to join today.
Respect for your amazing website which I really should and will take more time to go into some depth asap.

If I may though, I would like to ask this quite straightforward question.

Where on your chart http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart would you place Bedini and his machine, based among others on these recent pieces of information?

- The recent release of 380 such machines worldwide http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8501-380-more-people-have-overunity-technology-in-their-hands&highlight=Bedini (November 2010)
- Bill’s visit to Thomas Kirschner, editor of the German Nexus magazine, who is apparently the owner of these 380 Bedini machine and is planning to give workshops http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9185-Bill-and-Kerry-in-conversation-on-Kerrys-radio-show-Friday-10-December&p=79433&viewfull=1#post79433 (December 2010)

What in general would be your take on Bedinis’ machine? In your opinion would this have any chance to be the start of some sort of turning point?

Thanks for your time !

Jean-Luc

Wade Frazier

24th January 2011, 20:40

Hi Jean-Luc:

I have really not kept up much on any specific effort in recent years, not as far as ranking it on the Onion Scale :).

Somebody like Sterling Allan would have a better idea. In order to know where Bedini's effort would fall on the Onion Scale, I would have to know how he thought, and I do not have that insight, and I rarely seek it. Once in a while, I will be made aware of efforts like Steorn's, with the very public demo where they fell on their sword a few years ago. I figured that the situation was one of these possibilities (before they failed back then, and I really have no interest in whether they are going at it again):

1. Real naïve, at best, and did not have anything;

2. Real naïve, at best, and had something, but as soon as they decided to demo something, a "dampening" field would be erected around it in clandestine fashion, so it would not work, or it would be sabotaged in other, less sophisticated, ways;

3. They had it and were going to be allowed to demo it, but they were babes in the woods and had no idea what was happening behind the scenes;

4. They had it and were going to be allowed to demo it, but were part of a sophisticated effort that had already aligned the Global Controllers with the outcome – this would be the Muppet Movie ending that we had all hoped for.

I really don't pay much attention to such efforts, but when they fell on their sword the way that they did, I figured that option 1 or 2 was probably accurate. And if it is, boy, we have had way too many efforts like that over the years, and I am not sure what the point is, even if their motivation is genuine. I'll say this; if they were genuine, the way that they went about it not only painted a huge bulls-eye on their collective forehead, it gives the entire field a bad name.

In my opinion, no development or promotion of any FE device, in of itself, will be a turning point. What they can be, however, are barometers of what is happening behind the scenes. I have played canary in the coal mine before, and do not want to do it again. Nobody who has ever had the goods and tried to mount a public awareness effort, development effort, marketing effort, and so forth, has ever been "allowed" to get very far. The genuine technologies and efforts are removed from circulation pretty quickly.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

They will do it subtly if they can but, as I can attest from experience, they can go for the spectacular takedowns that can also serve as an example. For those whom such a message is intended, they get to see that the lion is still vigilant and keeps his claws sharp, and sometimes playing with his food can be diverting.

Again, I am trying to do something different with my work, and not playing the "does he have it or does he not" game. That is mostly a time waster, IMO, and diverts from what I think are far more important issues.

Best,

Wade

Corncrake

24th January 2011, 21:36

Thank you all. I am so enjoying the correspondence on this thread. Nothing to add to it at the moment but it is all enriching. Namaste.

Wade Frazier

24th January 2011, 22:25

Thanks for reading, Corncrake.

Contributing your awareness to this issue is appreciated,

Wade

baggywrinkle

24th January 2011, 22:40

Good Afternoon Mr Frazier,

Are you aware of the work of Gerardine Botte and her work at Ohio University extracting hydrogen from urine?

God's Blessings

-d-

Jean-Luc

24th January 2011, 23:26

Thank you Wade for your detailed reply.

I did follow Steorn (http://www.steorn.com/) some time ago. It is true that they failed their first public demo back in July 2007. They seem however to have been more successful with their second demo (http://www.steorn.com/news/releases/?id=1161) two and a half years later in December 2009 (demo in Dublin with transparent setup etc…). And they have since been continuing their work and efforts to spread the word. Hard to know more if you haven’t joined the program (which I haven’t). But at least they keep posting updates at a decent pace of their website.

I do understand your point of view regarding the turning point. I actually had a good look at your chart http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic prior to asking my question. And I generally feel in good resonance with this representation. The forces and interests at work quite obviously are beyond imagination. No doubt about that.

I believe one of the only ways out is to think differently and away from the dead-end money concept in this context. To a certain extent that’s a bit – perhaps – what Steorn is trying to do. They are staying away from the actual building of an engine, and try basically to spread the concept and the knowledge for a fair and reachable amount of money: something like 400 € or so for a individual for some sort of starter kit (no idea however how far you can get with that) and a higher price for a business (which makes sense).

Another route is the one apparently chosen by Bedini: i.e. spreading real FE machines in the wild (380 such machines last November (http://pesn.com/2010/11/23/9501730_Bedini_Renaissance_Conference_a_turning_point/)) and perhaps hoping these can produce offspring’s (not sure that’s their idea but I hope it is).

So my basic hope is that those 380 machines out there (1) first of all actually work as truly FE devices (2) are not limited by some rare and unique material that could endanger their free development (3) are patent free (4) can be freely reproduced.

Right, we don’t have the answer to that. Maybe someone on this forum will know more. Or actually buy a kit. Or attend a workshop with Nexus in Germany. I would tend to think Nexus with its “large” audience in the alternative media is in a fairly good position to help let the cat out of the bag. The question would then be: where is the bottle neck and will the cat be able to run fast enough and have little pussies?

There are a couple of things on earth that however rich and powerful you are you can’t prevent from spreading: ideas (even if this is sometimes questionable with all the desinfo and mind control games we are aware of) and invasive plants. Just think for instance how hard it can be to stop plants such as Fallopia japonica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallopia) from invading rivers sides and railways. :ohwell:

Well, it’s a little more complicated with FE, but somehow I think the way out it to let them multiply as wildly and freely as those otherwise quite beautiful invasive plants.

I understand that after all the hassle you have personally been through (playing the canary etc.) you have now decided to move to another level which you deem more important. And again, I will be delighted to spend more time on your website asap.

On the same time, don't things keep changing and evolving, including the very existence of this forum (plus of course the immense knowledge base you have built and which certainly will help some avoid some of the pitfalls), and in general overall awareness ? Many seeds have already been planted in the last decades. All of a sudden, this could perhaps start blossoming like wild.

Food for thought...

write4change

25th January 2011, 09:34

Hi my friend,

I spent three hours writing a counter point to your cows when I pressed submit the site went down and it is gone to cyberspace. When such things happen I decide the universe is saying time has not yet been fulfilled. So tonight I am back to your links and some others I got to see if I can learn to manipulate this computer better.

The one thing I did I would like your feedback on is that I made and offer and a suggestion to Bill on his thread about needing financial support. I cannot cut and paste so you will have to hunt them.

If you have any more links that will produce such intense visionary experience as tormented cow creatures warn me so I can shield. I could not sleep until 9AM in the morning. One of the richness of being poor is that no one has dibs on my time but me. LOL

I am off to go climb some more of your mountain. 2AM the one thing I miss is the idea of when these things are written. I will have to change my concept of time here.

Smiles, Jai

Wade Frazier

25th January 2011, 13:56

Hi Baggywrinkle:

Brian O has been looking for a research assistant for some years now, somebody who can help him, among other things, crunch the numbers on the usual suspects of alternative energy. Brian’s initial orientation was to the vanilla “solutions”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#udall

My initial orientation was getting more miles from a gallon of gasoline:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

or getting more from a kilowatt-hour of electricity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

or marrying those technologies and doing FE. However, the FE technologies that I am aware of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

make all of that look like children building sandcastles, as far as solving the energy issue goes. Biofuels are at about the bottom of the scale. Biofuels from heterotrophic waste is probably the most useless “solution” that I can think of. My upcoming energy essay, among other things, is intended to help the non-scientist begin to understand the energy issue, and to realize that all “solutions” proposed by the establishment are firmly entrenched in the scarcity paradigm. If scientists want to wring the last bit of energy out of urine, that can be a fun science project, but nobody should think that they are going to be solutions for industrial societies. Today, there is a bewildering array of efforts looking in all the wrong places for energy solutions. Anybody promoting urine as a viable energy source to solve our problems does not deserve to be taken seriously, IMO, not when I know what is out there.

Best,

Wade

Hi Jean-Luc:

Again, if Bedini’s stuff is real, the only reason why he can hold DIY workshops is because he is being allowed to. Any such situation reflects what is happening behind the scenes, not the inherent merit of anything that he, or Steorn, is doing. In fact, as I stated in one of my early posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=93196&viewfull=1#post93196

it is quite possible that all of that stuff in the public eye is what is not viable.

Again, I only consider all such efforts barometers, but don’t concern myself with them anymore. The day that somebody delivers a free energy machine to my home, or yours, I will be impressed. Until then, I am not too interested. It is easy to get sucked into the drama, thinking that somebody has solved the Rubik’s Cube or is close. Again, IMO, people are deeply and dangerously deluded if they think they can sneak past them, mount a tinkerer revolution, and so on. Anybody coming within a thousand miles of the dragon’s lair is noticed. So far, ALL OF THEM have either disappeared into the lair, never to be seen again, became scorched piles of bones several hundred miles out, or their heads grace the pikes standing guard outside the lair. The vast majority of the time, the “allies” of those would-be-dragon-slayers do them in (because they want the dragon’s hoard all for themselves! :) ), they have a training “accident,” or little predators feasted on them before they got a hundred yards from their castle, and the dragon never even has to lift a claw. I don’t want to watch anymore. How many have to fail before people begin to realize that maybe there is a problem with that approach? In practice, you and your allies are a thousand times more dangerous to your FE efforts than the dragon is. Anybody who has any experience trying to make it happen knows what I am talking about. Nobody wants to hear it, however. It is similar to immortal-feeling 18-year-old boys sauntering onto battlefields:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

Not long ago, I was asked to review a manuscript by a guy who has been on the fringes of this stuff (but he never really engaged the dragon, and it showed), and among his experiences, he taught small business entrepreneurialism at a university. Anybody with much business experience knows that small business “opportunities” in the USA are basically where suckers throw away their life’s savings. Something like 95% of all small businesses fail within five years. The businesses that populate America’s strip malls come and go like spring flowers. This guy taught a class on how to avoid the yawning pitfalls that quickly swallow up most small businesses. The principles are not hard to understand, but it is like saying that most Americans know how to lose weight. However, almost nobody wants to engage in self-discipline to do it the right way; they want a pill, some magic solution, etc. Anyway, he taught that class for years, and the students were would-be entrepreneurs, full of fire and dreams of making it big. The guy said that with very few exceptions, nobody in the class really wanted to hear what he had to say. They resisted his advice all the way, thought that he was being unnecessarily negative, that they had it all figured out, and so on. He eventually realized that they were not really there to learn how to succeed in business, to learn from the experience of others and avoid the obvious pitfalls. There was something else happening. In the end, he openly wondered if humanity is a rational species. I understand. :)

The FE task is not something for the naïve, the foolish, people who first heard of FE by reading my writings, and so on. But there are pretenders on every street corner. Only a handful ever came within hailing distance of the lair and lived to tell about it. I know some of them, and know of a few more. The last thing I am going to do is try encouraging newbies, DIY-ers, gawkers, and so on, that the dragon is sleeping… let’s see if we can sneak in!

I am trying to do something different. In today’s world, urine is proposed as a viable energy source. The general public does not even understand the rudiments of the energy situation; we all ride atop it, energy scarcity defines most aspects of the human journey and our daily lives, and the potential of energy abundance is something that almost nobody today can even imagine.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

I am trying to make it thinkable, and helping those who thirst for the truth, want real solutions, and so on. They can begin to understand that while the energy issue is the kingpin, there is quite a bit of terrain to cover to begin to comprehend abundance. Ten thousand years of scarcity-based conditioning is a lot to overcome. It is a big subject, and that is what I am here to teach:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

You don’t see me promoting Dennis’s efforts anyplace on my site. If I am not promoting him, I am not promoting anybody, and I don’t. Again, my interests lie in a different direction; one that I did not see anybody taking, but might help us get us over the hump. I had to try it out, and I am not asking anybody to risk their lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

Best,

Wade

Hi Jai:

Believe me, I can sympathize with your bovine nightmares. Researching and writing stuff like this:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#mcdonalds

took a lot out of me. I am a vegetarian for a number of reasons:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm

and I passed the point of no return back in the 1980s.

Best,

Wade

OMG

25th January 2011, 19:24

--- I believe that much of that so-called advanced technology tries to mimic advanced spiritual abilities. My understanding is that much of our advanced technology is quaint by certain “extraterrestrial” standards, because we have a primitive understanding of consciousness. By and large, the heart is not in charge on Earth.

Wade Frazier

Is there a relation between zero point energy and the highest spiritual/metaphysical attainments?

One of the essential spiritual procedures is meditation. There are stages of attainment in meditation, some of the highest levels being Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Soruba Samadhi - both of which are achieved only in utter stillness. The power and secret of this stillness through meditation is found between the inhale/exhale (at the zero point).

When activated such accomplished acolytes are as dead. They are so completely still there is no movement in their body at all. No breath, they are cold to touch, animals and bugs will not bother them, they do not develop fungus/mold like normal dead bodies, etc.

Consider, what if 3rd Dimensional reality was in fact an exteriorization of mind(s) that fell from the 4th dimension (Garden of Eden). What if the purpose of life has nothing to do with perpetuating 3D existence ultimately. But in recognizing the critical mass of our error in the “fall” and thus reclaim our former 4D status as a step on our way back into the higher dimensions?

The highest technological secrets all lead into conscious responsibility. The death of the Powers That Be is not so much the technology, per say, as it is the consciousness associated with it. TPTB must have willing sheeple in order for them to reign. If people started waking up and refused to participate then their system, their dimension, would inevitably collapse.

Some may wonder why we must move into 4D and not just improve/retain 3D. But how is this “improvement” possible? If you improve a dimension what are you actually doing? What if we look at said progression from the perspective of vibratory oscillation? Well, at least many of us can relate to the following even if it is relayed in simplistic terms.

We can all observe that base oscillations seem to affect people in certain ways. Consider dark music and how the psychology is negatively affected over time. Similarly you can find that dense or base energies found in too much heavy eating, fear, war, etc, all could be considered as vibrating at low oscillations. As such, if we wish to escape from these low/dark vibrations we must find higher/lighter oscillations. Ultimately if the vibration of 3D is sped up to a certain point it naturally becomes 4D automatically.

So in simplistic terms you cannot retain a 3D state and progress. Even the Greatest Masters while incarnate are not actually progressing and have to recharge if they retain a 3D body. For example, their powers are merely the conscious side-effect of their higher dimensional attainments. Eventually, however, these powers fade unless they are recharged.

gardunk

25th January 2011, 20:03

Gaia is a conscious entity and though there is an abundance of abuse in old school technologies that have raped the land, there are new stones and minerals that up til now where unable to come into our conscious awareness until most recently/ larimar, charoite, moldavite? all with new energies and carrying information for the furtherance of raising us all into a more coherent force...

Wade Frazier

25th January 2011, 20:30

Hi OMG:

See the last levels of this chart:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

This idea has already been kicked around some on this thread, too. Those who do not have to eat have it figured out. The rest of us are not there yet. Philosophizing about 3D and 4D can be interesting, and if we are about to make a dimensional leap or not. While I acknowledge that there is probably a lot of truth to those ideas, getting from here to there is the trick, as if there is any there ( :) ). I have had all sorts of "mystical" people go around and around on this stuff over the years, thinking that they can meditate all of the world's problems away, or escape "here" that way, and so on. I always go back to, "Do you still have to eat?" Until we can do without food and still be here, my work is more along the lines of physical reality practicality. But I have some stars to steer by, too:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

Is that a 3D or 4D reality? I am not sure that I care. I would sign up in a heartbeat.

Thanks for reading.

Best,

Wade

Hi gardunk:

Yes, Earth is my mother and I try to treat her well, and we have a lot to learn from her, and new minerals are part of it. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Wade

OMG

26th January 2011, 09:48

Thank you Wade. The great thing about scientist are that they prefer practical accomplishment over theory. I for one recognize theories as catalyst, but prefer practical fact and the realization of attainable states. No matter where you go…there you are, eh.

I’m pretty much done with my dialogues in this tread and don't wish to overstay my welcome (don’t get overly excited now…LOL). I truly appreciate the warm welcome I've received and of course the feedback. I realize I’ve not spoken the language of science, per say, and most of what I have been conveying seems rather out-of-reach, impractical, or just plain off target to most. That said, I feel compelled to leave with a few more comments and would respond only if asked a direct question.

For most of my life I’ve been interested in level 18 and higher. http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart These levels, if feasible, seemed the proper way of living and how we should utilize our will. I tended to feel that innate-organic-achievements not dependant on external-synthetic-mechanisms were our destiny. Such intimacy lessened the disassociation between observer and observed (closing the gap towards zero point, if you will).

As such I’ve spent most of my life delving into whether or not these “levels” are possible, validating the “masters” who had supposedly achieved them, and concerning myself with what I can practically DO towards this end.

Yes, meditation is not strictly someone sitting still and not participating actively in social life. (Although there have been exceptions. But these spiritually reclusive types help society in other ways.) There is also moving meditation where we are actively living in the conscious NOW while performing our daily duties. Progression is the aim.

I think that all of the wonderful creative ideas that science is yet to create ultimately have to exist. These are exteriorizations of mind variables which are potentially infinite. Yet I wonder if these are all distractions no matter how “advanced” they seem. Do they divert us from some Grand Singularity/Source which IS beyond the redundancy of all the mental journey's, yet encompasses ALL of the minds infinite variables and permutations?

BTW: Are you familiar with Thomas Campbell’s trilogy www.my-big-toe.com? If so your thoughts?

In conclusion. It is obvious to the keen observer that there are people on this planet who have achieved Levels 18 and higher. In fact there are those purported who are older than even Charles’ “Master” of 5,000 years. And yet I am reminded at this moment of Robert Monroe www.monroeinstitute.org who claimed to have meant the oldest living person on the plant in his out-of-body travels but that person was not nearly as old as Charles’ “Master”. So who’s right?

Only through direct experience, or the comparable weight of supporting facts, does any of this matter.

Wade, I agree with your assessment that those who have “figured it out” would be breatharians, or beyond. Yet I would add this. Many traditions feel that a Master can succumb to inevitable physical death as long as they pass on consciously. And that by doing so they can escape reincarnation and the wheel of samsara. In some cases this seems to be the case, yet they still have to work in dimensions not too far removed from 3D. (Here's one example http://www.ananda.org/autobiography/#chap43)

Whereas, I am of the observation that only when one has become impervious to physical death and can transcend to any dimension/density at will can they escape cosmological samsara. Using East Indian vernacular, this state is known as Soruba Samadhi, higher even than Nirvikalpa Samadhi (God Union). Babaji is a popular immoralist said to have achieved Soruba Samadhi and a member of these physically immortal ranks known as Siddha or Siddhar.

Namaste

Icecold

26th January 2011, 12:36

I've played around with meditation and have had some remarkable success. I say played around because I attached no religious concepts to it at all. Spiritual yes. Only once have I achieved the following state of being many years ago in my mid-twenties.

There is a state in which there is no heartbeat and no breath. Time as it were stands still. There is not time. Consciousness continues in this state and oxygen is not an issue. One can exist perpetually in this state, or so it seems. I knew I was not breathing and I felt no heartbeat, yet I was able to consciously be for a very long time until I began to resume thought and became anxious. I finally came out of it and everything resumed as normal. It was a mystical experience, never repeated.

Cheers :hippie:

Carmody

26th January 2011, 14:16

It may be associated with the technique called 'stilled breathing', when it comes to meditation. When you read the article on the monk found that had not decayed at all, he went into his death in slow-mode. Stilled breathing. He apparently did it to impress his students and similar that this can be done, in order to illustrate the reality of it. The monks were supposed to dig him up after a few years and note that the corpse had suffered not one whit of decay. What happened was war and political change. He was unearthed only a while back and something like 100 years had gone by instead. A very interesting looking body, it was. look it up (I can't get on the net right now, computer's messed up, I can barely get here).

Wade Frazier

26th January 2011, 16:09

Thanks for all the meditation posts. I had my mystical awakening when I was sixteen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

I had lived in Southern California for almost my entire life, until I left it in 1990, and hope that I never return. By the time I left, I think that I just about saw it all on the spiritual scene. Autobiography of a Yogi is one of my favorite books from those days. I have read plenty of Eastern material and know many people who have made pilgrimages to India and the like. Yes, for reaching the zenith of the human potential, I think that Yogananda and friends show us a way. That stuff is a double-edged sword, too. I have seen the “you are so heavenly bound you are not any earthy good” phenomenon. An “avatar” like Sai Baba has killer bodyguards. I have seen people misuse their talents, and as far as your soul’s development goes, if you want a bunch of consecutive lifetimes as a blithering idiot, being born into nightmare scenarios and the like, abuse others with your psychic abilities. In a world of scarcity, self-interest derails most of us from achieving high levels of spiritual accomplishment.

From what I saw, and maybe this is a bad example, for every “real” person that I saw in the So. Cal. mystical scene, there were at least a hundred pretenders:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

It might have been my earliest indicator that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

I think that it was Babaji who said that if a nation had ten worthy people in it, then the nation was worth saving. Many years later, I realized that he was being literal, that there are that few out there. Another guru once said that only about one in a million humans wakes up. The numbers are literally like that, but I had to discover it on my own, the hard way.

Quite a few accomplished mystical types became involved in my free energy adventures. They all quickly crumbled. When the going got hard, those with the right stuff did not come from the mystical side of the house. In the end, it is all about caring. While about all of my free energy fellow travelers who I respect had mystical awakenings:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mystical

usually while young, those who I really respected, the overgrown Boy Scouts,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

came from all walks, and what they had in common was personal integrity, not any particular spiritual outlook.

Yukteswar was intrigued by and approved of the West’s sanitation practices and other modernities. It is all energy-related. :)

One of the most enlightening observations that I have read on the issue of spirituality, science and the West was by an activist who said that the West is on a particular journey, and we Westerners all not going to all become a bunch of meditators who float off and leave Earth behind. We made this mess, and we have to clean it up, and at least at first it is going to be technologically, because that is how we got here. It is the spiritual equivalent of learning to clean up your room.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#waste1

It is a pretty obvious karmic dynamic. Both future worlds that Roads saw were technologically advanced:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

But one chose love and one didn’t, and that made all the difference. With love comes spiritual awareness. In that loving world, the average six-year-old is smarter and more informed than any of us, and seeing into other dimensions there is, literally, child’s play. :) If I do not get to at least see this planet move in that direction in this lifetime, I am going to put in my application to live in that heavenly reality in a future life.

Best,

Wade

P.S. I am not familiar with that particular TOE book, but am familiar with lots of “unified field” ways of looking at the universe. It probably shows in my work. :)

vibrations

28th January 2011, 13:14

jesus, Wade. your webpage is huge. I need another life to be able to dig throu. How lucky we are to share your pressence.

Bill Ryan

28th January 2011, 13:26

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Hi, Folks -

My thanks to you all for the very sane and intelligent discourse on this thread. I'm delighted.

A note to fully support Wade's thesis that (e.g.)

if Bedini’s stuff is real, the only reason why he can hold DIY workshops is because he is being allowed to. Any such situation reflects what is happening behind the scenes, not the inherent merit of anything that he, or Steorn, is doing.

Quite so. Same with anything I'd be allowed to reveal in an interview with a real whistleblower. They can squash any of us like bugs if they want to... sometimes it suits them not to! :)

JoshERTW

28th January 2011, 14:07

Hi Wade, welcome to the party.

I will be sure to spend some time better aquainting myself with your site over the next little while. Cool stuff so far.

Keep up the good work.

witchy1

28th January 2011, 14:48

Hi Wade, I thpught you might be interested in this October newletter from Jim Humble - founder of MMS - who you may be aware of.

I am ever hopeful that this knowledge may filter back to those in the field to ensure that they understand that they are not all powerless when it comes to the FDA.

This is the way in which Jim has assisted one of his members with a very positive outcome.
(please note that the church Jim describes is set up for the health of earths population as opposed to regular organised religion)

*****
FDA SCARES AMERICANS,NOT!!
October 2010

A few weeks ago, Daniel Smith of PGL (Project Green Life) a seller of MMS, was busy at work one morning when 5 men dressed in expensive suits walked in the door. They were from the FDA. They were there, they said, to enlist his cooperation in removing this dangerous chemical, MMS, from the market.

They believed that many people would be going to jail for selling such a chemical. But they really wanted to give people a chance to cooperate. They mentioned no consideration, no advantage to those who did cooperate, nothing.

They just wanted to give some people a chance to cooperate, they said. Their very attitude struck fear into all those who were there. Daniel’s partner, went immediately home, returned that evening and resigned, never to return.

Daniel agreed to recall all the thousands of bottles of MMS that he had ever sold. He would cooperate as there seemed to be no other choice. Or ---- that’s --- the—way-- it seemed.

I wrote a letter to Daniel telling him not to listen to the FDA, but it seemed that he was determined to cooperate.

In my Newsletter I went on record as being totally against Daniel caving into the FDA. I felt that users of MMS had to know that I was totally against caving in, in any way.

On the other hand, Daniel left a little note in his email to me making me realize that he had something up his sleeve. I wrote him that I had to go on record as being against what the FDA wanted, but I would help him in any way I could.

As it turned out, I had the Church, the Genesis 2 Church come up with $10,000 for Daniels defense. That’s one of the things the Church does, protect its members. And he used the money to create a Private Health Care Membership Association.

It just happens that the Supreme Court has ruled favorably for private associations more than 30 times in the last 50 years.

It happens that this country conducts its business in two areas, one is public, and the other is private.

The FDA, CIA and all the other alphabet soups are not allowed to interfere in the private area except in cases of a clear and present danger. The various private government agencies which all the government agencies are, are formed to protect the public, not the
private.

There is an interesting point of law here I might mention. The FDA is a private corporation.

They have an EIN number (employer identification number). They pay taxes. A private corporation has no authority over a private business.

So how do they get authority?

They must get a contract with any business in order to get the authority. The way they do that is they call you up and ask for permission to visit. Then they will come and visit and discuss many things, and during that time there will be numerous things you can say that will be assumed contracts.

The situation was that the FDA made a big error in coming to Daniel’s business in the first place. They were so anxious to put the fear into Daniel that they did not follow the rules set by the laws and earlier court precedents.

The law says that the FDA must notify the people before coming and then when they arrive they must tell the owner in clear language why they are going to investigate him. They may then make further appointments. They also didn’t send him a copy of the complaint. These errors are covered by the following court cases.

● Davis v. Scherer, 82 L. Ed. 2d 139 at 155;
● Armstrong v. Mauzo, 14 L. Ed. 2d 62;
● Grannis v. Ordean 58 L. Ed. 1363;
● Mathews v. Eldridge, 47 L. Ed. 2d 18.
● And others.

At the advice of people who knew what they were doing he then wrote a letter informing the FDA that he would beginning to sell MMS to his private membership at a certain date and they had 10 days to voice their objections, if they have any.

WELL, DANIEL IS NOW BACK SELLING MMS TO HIS PRIVATE MEMBERS. AND OTHER COMPANIES ARE STARTING UP WITH THE SAME IDEA IN MIND.

The FDA didn’t decrease the number of sellers of MMS, they increased it as a result of caring people, many people researched the law and found that they could indeed sell MMS Legally.

Wade Frazier

29th January 2011, 01:14

Hi vibrations.

Thanks for the welcome.

Wade

Hi Bill:

Thanks again for having me. Yes, as individuals, we are pretty small fry on their scale of doing things. They stepped on me, but I was just collateral damage from them stepping on Dennis. Yes, if they want me dead, I guess I am going home soon, but somehow I think I will get older and grayer before I am finished here. :)

Best,

Wade

Hi JoshERTW

Thanks for reading,

Wade

Hi Witchy 1.

I played the legal game and "won," if you consider sacrificing my life so that Dennis "only" got two years behind bars winning. :)

Taking the FDA and company on is a big subject. I put a big fat disclaimer at the beginning of my medical racket essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#disclaimer

just so I can hopefully escape their wrath. People can win round one with them, but they almost always "get their man" in the end. Laetrile was big stuff in the 1970s, before they mounted their assault, and there are multi-pronged approaches. I wish people luck in surviving the FDA's "interest," but that is a dangerous game, obviously.

Best,

Wade

I plan to put up a couple of substantial posts this weekend, but we'll see how it goes.

Wade Frazier

29th January 2011, 16:28

Hi:

I am probably going to periodically make a post that tries to “center” this thread where I intend it to go. This is one of them.

When I came into this forum, with Bill’s kind welcome, I was not sure what would happen; I had not interacted with the public in years. A friendly forum, one not filled with trolls and assailants, is not something that I am used to. I thank the mods and admins and the friendship requests (I have never done social media, and my jury is still out on that stuff). I have been asked repeatedly if I want to make a sub-forum at Avalon and run my own show. Maybe that can work someday, but there is too much on my plate right now.

This forum experience happened a little earlier than I had planned for, but I decided to try it out. I will not belabor the path that I took to arrive at my perspective today. It is quite evident in my site’s writings and posts to this forum. When I finished my site as it largely stands today, in 2002, I was introduced to Bucky Fuller’s work after one of his pupils called me a comprehensivist, and I did not know what he meant:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

I quickly understood that Fuller’s perspective was a more developed version of mine, but we also took different paths and had slightly different emphases. In retrospect, I can see how I was groping toward a comprehensivist perspective, but not really knowing that that was what I was doing. I was always a “big picture” guy, but being introduced to Fuller’s work was revelatory. His work helped crystallize my perspective and helped me articulate my views in far more paradigmatic fashion. Perhaps unfortunately, I discovered Fuller after I finished my site and resumed my career, and it has been sixty-hour weeks at my day job ever since (yesterday was a sixteen-hour day at the office, for instance, and I will work this weekend). Still, I found time for the occasional, short essay, and they were all written with the comprehensive view at the forefront:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#activist

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm#comprehensive

While those essays were written in more consciously comprehensive fashion than my earlier writings, they were also mostly written during my monster of a midlife crisis.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

I have also been writing professionally since I resumed my career, and a big part of me wants to take a year off to rewrite my site, but I may never get that luxury, particularly in the collapsing U.S. Empire.

I have been a bookworm since I learned to walk, and that will never stop. For the past few years, I have been performing research in my “spare” time on what will be, by far, the most comprehensive essay that I will have yet written. Its central theme will be energy and the human journey. I have been reading many books regarding evolution, anthropology and “energy and the human journey” in recent years, as research for that essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

Whether it is studying molecular biology, photosynthesis and respiration, or how the control of fire may have led to the appearance of humans:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

or how early civilizations developed and the West industrialized, it is always, at its heart, a story of how energy is captured, preserved and used.

Largely because most people are scientifically illiterate, that dynamic eludes the understanding of most inhabitants of industrialized nations. Their comprehension of energy is largely confined to flipping a switch in their home or pressing the gas pedal in their automobile, with little idea where that energy comes from and how it shapes every moment of their daily lives. They consequently have almost no conception of how energy scarcity defines their existence in almost every facet, and how energy abundance could literally end the world as they know it and usher in an epoch of the human journey that is virtually unimaginable today. If more people can comprehend abundance-based paradigms, something that the human journey has yet to experience, maybe we can help catalyze its appearance.

I began my journey as an eager student of science, mentored by a world-class inventor:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

A few years after my mystical awakening at age sixteen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#how

a desperate prayer changed my studies from science to business:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

and several years after that, for the second and so far last time that I asked that voice for help:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

I was led straight into what probably stands as the greatest effort yet made to bring alternative energy technology into the American marketplace:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

Then my wild ride began. When the dust cleared a few years later, my life was shattered and I was radicalized. That voice in my head was obviously part of a series of otherworldly manipulations, some quite dramatic, that led me down my path. I would not wish that path on anybody, but it gave me a unique perspective.

Following this thread so far can be instructive. It not only shows how multifaceted the energy-and-humanity issue is, but some of the side trails and pitfalls that await the unwary might become evident. I don’t write about the innumerable hazards that attend the free energy journey as a theorist:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

I have either experienced or witnessed people fall into all of those pitfalls over the many years. My fellow travelers have taken diverse paths, and for those on it long enough at a high enough level, we usually end up in the same vicinity, as far as understanding the dangers, what we are up against, and what the opportunities and possibilities are. Some have devoted their lives to collecting suppression stories, visiting scientific laboratories and inventors’ workshops, going the political activist route, playing the capitalist game, taking the hero’s route to free energy, and so on. All have their place; many have done worthy work, and many have had their lives wrecked or prematurely terminated for their trouble. This field is strewn with martyrs from one end to the other. I have blood on my hands:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

and it is not easy to live with. The people who scare me the most in this milieu are not the hit men and provocateurs:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

but the naïve newcomers (especially scientists and engineers) who want to rush out, in a field where angels fear to tread, and make free energy happen on their lunch hour or who think they can tinker in their garages and sneak past the Global Controllers, and so forth. Today, more than 99.9% of humanity lives somewhere from layers 0 to 11 in the free energy onion.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

I largely live in layer 12. Along the way to layer 12 and beyond, people usually become distracted by the many sideshows, fall into the pitfalls, and end up snagged on the scarcity-based branch of their choice:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

The demands of taking the Indiana Jones path, for instance, can lead to tunnel vision, because of the focus needed for survival. Organized religion or nationalism, for instance, can be seeming refuges from the storm, but often become prisons. I have not seen many, if any, American free energy activists who have escaped (to a large degree – nobody can overcome it entirely) their nationalistic indoctrination. That indoctrination begins almost in the cradle in the USA, with schoolchildren forced to worship a flag in their first day of school:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

Very few, so far, have proven themselves able or willing to walk the razor’s edge to a comprehensive and productive understanding of the issues. Conspiracism and structuralism are two of the most persistent obstacles to seeing the big picture:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

It took many years of interacting with thousands of people, seeing the innumerable denials, fixations and the like, to begin to understand the situation. Once in a great while, I would meet fellow travelers like Brian O, and when we commiserated, our experiences aligned to a remarkable degree. As Brian said, this is a lonely, lonely journey.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

Most people want easy answers to this conundrum. There aren’t any. At its root, it is the fear/love duality. People who don’t care and are egocentric live in fear. They can’t walk today’s path to free energy. All the pitfalls that I describe are fear reactions, although fear often manifests subtly. Much of it, perhaps most of it, is related to denial of the reality that we live in. Most people deny that the Global Controllers exist or are vigilant, or that they want to keep the scarcity-based paradigm intact, because it encourages greed (which capitalism is based on http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#greed), which is another fear reaction.

Newcomers often believe that their families and friends will welcome the free energy and abundance message (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#telling). Almost without exception, every hip pal who discovered my work and eventually interacted with me had close relatives that were Rush Limbaugh fans or George Bush supporters, and thought that if they introduced them to my work that their eyes would light up in recognition. I have yet to see that happen; usually, the opposite happens, as my work ends up straining or ending their relationships. My most irrational and strident critics are not the Limbaugh fans, but people who consider themselves savvy and progressive. As a group, my most irrational and vicious critics have been my “peers,” – white, American, educated men:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#false

In this small field, people usually deny that their foibles will doom their efforts, believe that they can drag their baggage to the Promised Land, and so on. Perhaps most of all, they deny that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity. Who wants to admit that? I sure didn’t. It was the lesson that I resisted the longest:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

That is who we signed up with as our fellow travelers, for reasons that the mystics and channels tell us (or some of us may recall from our larger existences), and they may be right. If I am certain of anything, it is this: the average person will begin to wake up to free energy and an abundance-based reality when somebody delivers a free energy machine to their home:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

Until that day happens, trying to reach John Q. Average in his home is a loser. I highly doubt that the stampede strategy will work. That does not mean that I have given up on humanity, but I also realize that they can’t carry the abundance ball right now, not the masses. Many are called and few are chosen.

I’ll take the ETs or Ascended Masters showing up any day and shocking the masses with delight, displaying their wares and playing the mass enlightenment game. I admit my selfishness: I want to live in heaven on earth, or at least see humanity moving in that direction before my lifetime is finished, so that I have a better chance of experiencing it when I return (I am probably not living my last life). However, those potential game-changers have proven to be very shy, and that may be because we need to learn to paddle our own canoe, not have heroes save us from ourselves.

If free energy devices appeared on the market tomorrow, the fun would only begin. As many people as possible will need to begin thinking comprehensively if or when that day arrives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#education

Understanding the structural and conspiratorial aspects of the free energy conundrum is important. Part of the trick is to not fixate on either pole and realize that both are fear-based aspects of the situation. The Global Controllers can only play their games with a sleeping humanity that plays the victim game and that has collectively, so far, refused to act like creators. And it’s not easy to change when we are mired in scarcity, and the Global Controllers know this well, which is why they have spent more than $100 billion to keep the lid on such scarcity-banishing technologies as free energy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

Protest is a victim-oriented, complaint-based response that is founded on the principle of “they have the power and we do not,” and is another counterproductive response.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

A scientific perspective helps. Otherwise, newcomers are quickly distracted by non-solutions such as hydrogen power, biofuels (from corn, plankton, sagebrush, urine, meat processing waste, and so on) and the usual suspects of alternative energy: wind, direct solar, tides, etc. The ZPF is orders of magnitude beyond those “solutions,” and the Global Controllers know it well. In no other area is the pot watched more closely, so that it never comes to a boil. Some loose cannon members of the club have demonstrated part of their trove to a highly select few.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

However, with scientific training comes scientistic indoctrination, and the various flavors of ideological conditioning that scientists receive also prevents them from being much use to the free energy effort, and they, collectively, are one of its biggest obstacles, as incredible as that may seem:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#scientists

A high profile activist, whose name is known to most of this forum’s members, once wrote me, after reading my “personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity” realization: “You got that right!”

It might be the booby prize of playing at the high levels. However, personal integrity is also the world’s most precious commodity, and I believe that it would not take very much of it, in some kind of concentrated form, to push humanity over the top. However, I came to doubt that the hundred heroes approach had a chance, because there were not a hundred to find:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

I still am looking for the nugget of personal integrity that can do it, but I am not asking anybody to risk their lives, but to just become aware. I am trying to amass a nugget that is larger but less dense. If enough people understood how our world really worked, how the human journey always has and always will ride atop the energy situation and how close we are to having an abundance-based economy and all that can come with it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

maybe we have a chance. I hope that it will be low-level enough to where the Global Controllers do not feel the need to go nuclear, but it might form enough of a pool of heart-centered sentience where the Indian Joneses have a chance, or better yet, retire, because they are no longer needed to save the day. And, yes, they will need a period of adjustment. I would gladly help build The Indiana Jones Retirement Home. :) It might be built across the street from the Global Controller Rehabilitation Center.

I have been performing my research over the past few years in the hopes of making a presentation that will help people begin thinking in comprehensive fashion. I see it as a key to developing that theoretical pool of heart-centered sentience. Also, a comprehensive perspective is never wasted. It may seem of little practical use initially, but it not only can help humanity stay on course if we turn the corner; on our soul’s journey, achieving such perspectives while living in physical reality goes a long way toward achieving its reasons for incarnating.

This is not subject matter for quick-study artists. Even for those who have read my entire site (and I have heard from plenty of those over the years, and I am sure it was small fraction of those that did, and I thank you all – every writer’s desire is to be read), it might take many years for the overall meaning to sink into your bones, and leavened with your experiences, you then develop your own comprehensive perspective:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and do not need to hear from people like me anymore, although keeping in touch can be rewarding and comforting, because you will be a freak in this world, harboring bizarre notions such as practical abundance. :)

The responses from enthusiasts of different persuasions in this thread give a mere hint of the million directions that people try to drag this subject matter into in public forums, with either the trolls eventually reigning, the conversation disappearing into a million rabbit holes or wrecked in other ways. “Three-ring circus” barely begins to describe it. Staying on the comprehensive even-keel is vanishingly rare, but I am going to try it out here. If this subject material was an easy study, we would have had publicly-available free energy long ago.

I appreciate the sense of urgency to “do something,” and energy is the big leverage point, but this is not a task for the impatient or the ungrounded. I watched a close, comprehensive pal go off the deep end over HP's Gulf Oil Spill last year. There are many casualties in this field, and I hope that you do not become one of them.

Best wishes,

Wade

Wade Frazier

30th January 2011, 17:20

Last year, I was invited to swim with wild dolphins, so I did.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#dolphins

It was probably like my UFO experiences:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

where the first one can’t be repeated, and I will be frustrated if I try. I probably should just be grateful for the show and go my way. I have friends who swim with dolphins across the world, and visiting with the dolphin community was educational. Most whom I encountered were largely accomplished professionals and other achievers who bagged it all to hang out with dolphins, while others were highly accomplished scientists who studied them. They have great respect for dolphins, treat them as peers, and I listened to first-person accounts of their sentience, ability to read minds and how they could heal with their song. My encounter was so over-the-top, immediately after doing my “Wade’s World” rap with my guide on the shore, that he believed that that they responded to it. Apparently, it is all in the attitude. A joyful, respectful desire for the encounter is what they respond to, whether they are ETs or dolphins.

I am on day twenty-two of a fast right now, and early in this fast, I was lying in bed, in the blissful, half-awake state that accompanies my fasts. I began having a vision of a whale and a future world somewhere around the midpoint between today’s world and the heavenly one that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I was “just” imagining it. My goal was creating a vision of a possible future, similar to that one that I did earlier in the thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=97564&viewfull=1#post97564

As I imagined, it, I also imagined a name that I made up, but I later found that it is a real, if uncommon, name. So, without further preamble…

Ileah and the Whale
Ileah brought her children to that day’s class. Ileah’s husband was visiting a Martian colony, and the whale asked Ileah to bring her children to that day’s lesson. He regularly made that request, with somewhat predictable timing. The classes were held wherever the whale, which Ileah called Somborne, was. Ileah could always find Somborne, as he relayed his location to her mind, wherever she was on Earth. Somborne was a teacher whale. Many thousands of teacher whales roamed Earth’s oceans. The human pupils traveled for their lessons, wherever the whales might be. Dolphins often accompanied them, who learned from the teacher whales in their own way. That day, however, was for Somborne to teach Ileah and her children.

When Ileah first began learning from Somborne, she swam with him in tropical waters. Physical contact was important during the initial lessons. But today he swam near the Arctic, taking the routes of his ancestors. Somborne, like many teacher whales, no longer needed to eat. They received their sustenance in other ways. Somborne stated that while his ancestor’s oceanic routes were no longer necessary for nourishment, he enjoyed the journey.

Ileah lived with her family in a community in South America, although people rarely used that archaic geographic term anymore. Ileah’s family relocated fairly regularly, as was typical. Because of the ease of communication and travel (as compared to the days before free energy and other advanced technologies were revealed more than one hundred years ago), humanity was really one large community, even those living in off-Earth colonies or visiting humanity’s close relatives in other star systems.

As humanity awoke during the Change Times, and extra-terrestrial and subterranean species made their presence known, it quickly became evident that cetaceans were far more than aquatic mammals. No life form was taken for granted any longer, but cetaceans were more than humanity’s peers. As humans began interacting openly with cetaceans, whales helped people remember important aspects of their heritage and inherent abilities, as well as teaching them ways of thinking and being that were previously unknown.

In Arctic waters, wearing water suits was an option, but today, Ileah and her children, a boy and girl of less than ten years, used a water craft. Familiar sights and sounds accompanied their descent to meet Somborne. The family greeted Somborne in a chorus, and Somborne’s song replied. He rose toward the surface and swam next to their craft. The craft’s sides were clear, seeming to its occupants as if they were swimming freely, if warmly, for Arctic waters. As Somborne swam close, their eyes met. Such contact was still important, but Somborne’s greeting was also received in their minds and hearts. More than any of Earth’s species, including humans, whales were masters of the mind.

Today’s lesson was a common one: learning multidimensional thinking. A century ago, as whales began teaching humans, the holographic nature of cetacean thought, particularly the thought processes of Great Whales, was incomprehensible at first. However, humans in close contact with whales not only began thinking differently, their thoughts and emotions began unifying. It was not an easily described process, but humans training with whales were evidently changed, and often dramatically. Their intuitive abilities flourished, and their ability to feel love was greatly enhanced, as well as an enormous increase of what was once considered intellectual ability. What was called “intelligence” before the Change Times became one of many relics of that primitive epoch, however necessary it may have been. The greatest thinkers of those old times used only tiny portions of their potential. The teacher whales helped open horizons of thought and being that humans were only beginning to explore.

Ileah’s children had been receiving Somborne’s lessons since infancy. If children had whale training while young, they could manifest astonishing, if still barely understood, abilities. Somborne chose Ileah for training before her children were born, which was becoming a more common practice among teacher whales. As they communed near the ocean’s surface, Somborne stated that the day’s lesson was for “deep” work. Going deep into the mind was somehow related to going deep into the ocean, at least for lessons that whales taught. Their craft could descend to the bottom of any ocean with ease, but Somborne still needed to breathe, so their descents were relatively modest but adequate for the lessons.

Somborne dove toward the depths with the craft alongside. Ileah and her children assumed their learning state, with their eyes closed, as their minds entered a kaleidoscope of multidimensional thought and feeling. Much of their learning was beyond what their conscious minds grasped, but that was normal and expected. The lessons altered their awareness in ways that sometimes became evident only during subsequent dreams. The effects on their waking minds and emotional states could be spectacular for some lessons, and subtle for others. As they descended, Somborne’s teaching became more “condensed.” Ileah’s breathing became deep and slow, as did her children’s. Their thoughts became quieter, yet their minds and emotions also expanded. Memories of other existences were recalled, in other incarnations and between them, sometimes in non-humanoid bodies. Information entered their minds and was assembled in ways considered “impossible” a few generations ago, but was now accepted as a necessary development on the path of humanity’s growing awareness.

Somborne had a particular lesson to impart about being on that day, which could only be received at the deepest state that their relationship allowed. It could not all be received consciously, but enough was consciously available that its import was obvious. That day’s lesson was one of the “big ones” that they sometimes received. As Ileah felt her mind and heart join during the lesson, she knew that it would take months to fully integrate it. She opened one eye. They had gone so deeply that the waters were in deep twilight. Somborne floated next to their craft, and she gazed into his eye in recognition and gratitude for their day’s lesson. Somborne’s eye had its typically wise expression that only hinted at his depth of multidimensional perception. Ileah could see the faint glow of his body, related to how he received his nutrition. The glow became more evident during their lessons, and it seemed to come from the same source that powered human civilization. It was a divine energy that only highly accomplished mystics were familiar with, before the Change Times. In Ileah’s time, that energy was understood to come from the Creator; all humans were familiar with its hum, and teacher whales much more so. It was a loving energy whose sentience was discernable, to some degree, by all humans. All Earthly life resonated with that energy, too, in ways that were new and delightful.

The teacher whales informed humanity that they would be available to teach as long as humanity needed them. After that, their presence would diminish, but some would always accompany Earth on her journey, and their relationship with humanity would reach another octave that was as of yet unfathomable.

After long minutes, Somborne returned to the surface. Their day’s lesson was not yet complete, but the heart of it was. A few hours later, they returned home after their happy farewells, in a trip lasting a few minutes. In the days that followed, they experienced that familiar state, as their minds and hearts assimilated what they experienced far below the ocean’s surface, under Somborne’s tutelage. Ileah’s husband would take the children to their next lesson. About once a year, the entire family swam with Somborne in tropical seas, as well as many members of their community. In those times, the line dividing family and community would have seemed odd and even invisible to people living before the Change Times, as all of humanity was a community in Ileah’s lifetime.

I am not sure where that came from, but I see it as a practical vision of what can be. It is a little different than my nuts-and-bolts visions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#can1

but no less real to me, as far as what could lie ahead for humanity, if we turn the corner.

Sometimes I get to write a fun one. :)

Best wishes for a Sunday,

Wade

Luke

30th January 2011, 19:37

I can only say WOW :) ...

Wade Frazier

30th January 2011, 19:57

Glad that you enjoyed it, Luke.

filsmyth

1st February 2011, 11:49

Hello. This is my first post in the new forum -- and as my posts in 'Avalon 1' were made by an earlier, somewhat less-evolved version of myself, I would ask that anyone perusing posts by 'fil' there will mark the dates of those postings and, with kindness, be assured that I am always a work-in-progress...

While I've been aware that some things of importance have likely been discussed in these spaces, it wasn't until I received a link to this thread from Wade that I applied for membership...

I may be unique among Avalon members in having devoured Wade's entire original site years ago, beginning with the one titled Fluoridation: A Horror Story (as I was looking to end fluoridation locally, and needed convincing material). Later, I found his new site and did my best to catch up. If I haven't read absolutely everything there I'd be surprised -- but let's say 99%...

About 2 years ago I managed to make contact... Yes and since then I have contacted other Camelot witnesses and interviewees (Bill and Kerry too), with varying results...

--

If readers are to comprehend where I'm coming from, I'll have to give some background -- so bear with me:

It wasn't until 2000 that I gained regular internet access. My first e-mail address was antigravity1@... ('antigravity' was already taken on that server). I had already surmised that 'antigravity' and 'free energy' were related, and my main focus early on was to look for anything and everything I could find about these subjects. To my horror, what I found was that certain technological discoveries were being suppressed with extreme prejudice. Having read a biography of Nikola Tesla much earlier, I found an account on Keelynet about how he demonstrated and attempted to promote free energy in 1931.

Imagine how different our lives would be, if that long ago our world had embraced this -- as it had already embraced many of his other inventions, from alternating current to radio (Marconi used 17 of Tesla's patents to make his famous transatlantic broadcast) and radar (which was only implemented by the British in WWII, and deliberately hobbled at Pearl Harbor). As I came to realize, thanks in part to Wade's many pages, later on, there was and remains a dark force bent not only on suppression of technology but suppression of other ideas...

JFK was assassinated for a number of reasons, chief among them possibly being that he advocated a switch back to the US dollar being backed by something of actual value (silver, I think it was). If you have a silver dollar (actually made of silver) with his face on it, it's worth more than $1, incrementally as time goes by...

John Lennon was getting 'too big for his britches'. Better that he be marginally martyrized, perhaps, than to let him continue. He knew what was up, at least to a significant degree, and wasn't shy about using his celebrity to help spread awareness...

My father worked for the military contracting division of Westinghouse in the 1960s: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/minuteman.htm

Mom packed up her 6 kids (having to acquire a driver's license in secret) and left him in 1971 (I was 4). He'd been drinking excessively, abusing her, and had a mistress. Most of this could easily have been the result of an active effort to ruin his life, a method I have come to understand was standard practice. Later he was prescribed a drug supposedly to combat alcoholism, that caused neurological damage resulting in a palsy and slurred speech, ironically making him appear to the uninitiated as though he was drunk, all the time.

On the occasion of my 12th birthday, I was summoned to meet with him (received a gift of 'cold cash', $100 that had been kept in his freezer)... He had on hand a circuit model, built on a block of wood. It was a model only, and not a working circuit, because as he said he could not afford all the components. He said it was IMPORTANT, but gave up trying to explain it after having to tell me what a diode was (hey, I was 12).

When I put what I had found on the internet together with my own memories, I realized Dad (who passed when I was 19 and he was only 51, supposedly from lung cancer, in a Veteran's Administration hospital) had been a victim of suppression-with-extreme-prejudice. If he tried to show me this on my 12th birthday, one has to wonder how much he attempted to share with others...

I gained a new respect for him, and began to actively communicate with him in spirit -- in a new-to-me, untested manner. Have since felt that he managed to impart what he intended (and managed to connect with me, which was 'unfinished business'), and has been able to 'move on'...

Meanwhile I had, by default, become Sterling Allan's campaign manager for his (purely symbolic) write-in Presidential bid. I quickly learned that only 6 of the 50 States in 'America' supported write-in candidates, and that it would take monumental efforts to get any 3rd-party candidate on the ballot in the other 44. We tried, a little, to establish a party... No, I didn't agree with all his ideas -- but the experience taught me quite a bit about how incredibly biased the system was about letting anyone other than a Republican or Democrat be given even the slimmest of chances at attaining the Presidency.

No, it is NOT true that 'anyone can grow up to be President'. It has become a puppet position, with vetting from an early age. Sterling Allan was, and remains, a free energy advocate -- or DOES he? His site, referenced earlier in this thread, last I checked was pretty useless -- one could not learn anything of significance from it, only be reminded of the futility of pursuing FE (free energy).

Yet I was inspired, and being unable to find a related movement at the time created a Yahoo group for what I called then, for lack of a better name, the 'Unified Settlement' (as we are all settled here on Earth, and need to become unified). It had its own site for about a year, hosted by a friend in South Africa -- but then the site went down, under extremely questionable circumstances. I still do not know exactly what happened, but it sounded very bad indeed -- and I have only been in sporadic, superficial contact with that host since then...

Concurrent with my decision to move the group from Yahoo (out of distrust) to Google, the name was changed from 'Unified Settlement' to 'Nation of Earth', as I had begun to describe it as A nation (in the tribal sense) of Earth...

This resulted, later, in a Katrina survivor (I tried to warn him) and member of that Google group offering up his limited hosting capabilities for a new Nation of Earth domain piggybacking on his 'Fated to End Sometime' member site, which has been live since October 2008: http://earthnation.fatedtoend.com/ It still consists largely of my own rantings...

More recently I have created a facebook page and a group around the Nation of Earth, seemingly pointless, still more recently the Global Unity Movement group on the facebook. How much this is preaching to the choir, and not reaching minds with new ideas, is yet to be seen.

If you're on the facebook (I call it that after having seen The Social Network), you can find me as 'Fil Smyth' (as it requires 2 names and arbitrarily capitalizes them, so I cannot be 'filsmyth' there, as I am almost everywhere else).

My introduction has taken up so much space, I'll leave it to the next to give my current thoughts.

Stay crunchy.

witchy1

1st February 2011, 12:51

Luke, you took the words right out of my mouth.......... WOW. Wade you are an inspiration. Thank you so very much

Karen

filsmyth

1st February 2011, 13:37

...Why do I say "Stay crunchy"?

A while back I managed to gain regular contact with Ronald Jenkees (http://www.ronaldjenkees.com/2008/08/16/stay-crunchy-youtube-jam/), at first through comments and PMs on YouTube. An online friendship ensued, with enough trust on his part to send me unreleased tracks. The crunchiness in question was related to a level of audio distortion on a particular track, a later version of which he named Stay Crunchy on his 2nd CD. When I asked if he would consider composing an anthem for the Nation of Earth, he replied with "Why don't you just use 'Stay Crunchy'?" -- and now that earlier version, unavailable anywhere else, is streamable from every page on the Nation of Earth site. There is also a Simpsons reference to staying crunchy (in milk), but never mind that for now...

I offered Wade a secure forum on that site, set it up as well as I could, for the discussion that is now happening HERE -- but this is a much better place for it (and didn't exist yet back then).

No, my ego is not bruised. There is only so much one can expect in setting up a site based on the obscure notion of grassroots global unity, especially with slackerly efforts to promote it, run until recently out of a friend's pantry (seriously -- I was there, and saw it).

I am very pleased with how the discussion has gone so far, and at the moment have no questions for Wade.

However I would like to address the issue of dimensions, and how we speak about them:

The first 3 dimensions are of space, and the 4th is time. We are already living in a world of 4 measurable dimensions. If there is a 5th dimension, to my mind it is one of vibrational frequency -- and this is something that is difficult at best for us to measure at this point. Some who speak about a '4th dimension' as opposed to the '3rd dimension' we supposedly inhabit must not be in full comprehension of the word, 'dimension'. A regular movie is already in 3D, as it is a series of 2D representations moving through time, and a '3D' movie is an attempt to push back the barrier of 2D in each frame...

There must be some kind of confusion at work here, possibly connected to numbered levels of vibrational frequency, or 'phases'. One can imagine that there are levels, like musical octaves, of vibrational frequency, and that we as Humans on the surface of Earth are largely confined, currently, to the 3rd level or 'density'. Maybe if we can raise our frequencies by an 'octave', we can achieve Level 4. Is that 'ascension'?

I've read of increasing one's vibrational frequency, notably in a book by one Philip Smith (not me) titled Walking Through Walls. It is supposedly by doing so that we achieve altered states of consciousness and 'enhanced' abilities...

We already live within whatever dimensions may exist, even if we do not perceive them. Everyone is already in 5D (or up to 11D or 23D, however many dimensions of existence we may currently be unable to perceive and/or measure).

Kerry Cassidy may have it right, when she speaks of us currently experiencing the 3rd 'Density' (of vibrational frequency).

I personally think that we may be experiencing a next level up, in our dreams...

[more later]

jsb_swampfox

1st February 2011, 14:07

We have all been waiting for you......Thanks!

vibrations

1st February 2011, 14:43

Last year, I was invited to swim with wild dolphins, so I did.

Wade, you just can't imagine how "next generation" is what you've just shared here. It is so close to my view of the future. I have to express my deepest respect and admiration to what you are doing. Puting practicaly your life on it. I am fascinated with free energy (any type) from my childhood, was a little utopistic, but now I know it is there, it's done, we justl need to find a way to turn over what is being hidden from us, little by little, not to disturb the flow of the streem and we will succeed. Thank you again for your work.

Wade Frazier

1st February 2011, 18:35

Hi fil:

I have not even read your emails to me yet. Too many sixteen hour days at the day job at the moment. As I stated, I may end up doing more than one forum, when I get those essays written and some others made over. This forum of Bill's caught me by surprise. I had not planned on doing this, but when Bill created a "shelter" for writers like me to engage the public, I felt that I had to put my toe in the water. We will see how this goes. Well met, forum-wise. :)

Thanks witchy1 and jsb_swampfox for the kind words.

Thanks vibrations. Ah, what a long, strange trip it has been. I'll vote for the happy ending to all of this, and we will see. I respect the Indiana Jones way of going about it, but it is a high abrasion route that I could not afford to travel anymore. Maybe there will be disruptions of the current paradigm in ways that we can barely imagine right now. I try to stay nimble for whatever may be coming. I also would welcome the Muppet Movie ending to the free energy quest.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

I try to not say how it has to be, but I also like to imagine how it can be.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

2nd February 2011, 21:59

Hi fil:

As you can tell in this thread and other public efforts of mine, I am continually asked what I think of this effort or that effort in the field. When I have appeared publicly elsewhere, and especially when I had a publicly-available email address, I received endless attacks regarding Dennis, especially on what he is doing these days (even though I do not even keep up on that saga, and have not spoken to him in years), and every few years some national TV show smears him, and they always feature Sterling's good buddy, Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

and then the attacks would usually increase. It is "funny" that when they smear Dennis's recent efforts, they always use easily-disproven lies about what happened in Seattle and Ventura as their "evidence" of his criminality. It is the only game that Mr. Skeptic knows how to play.

I try to stay away from evaluating any particular effort, partly because I lost interest many years ago in the tinkerer approach, the mass movement approach, and the many other avenues of failure that I have seen. Also, the motivation of those asking about which horse to watch (or bet on) is almost never aligned with mine. They usually are people new to the field and want to win a quick bet, and horseraces are exciting to watch! :) My answer is that now is probably not the time to be watching horses, but understanding the nature of the race. However, gaining that comprehension is not a spectacular process for most. Only learning junkies and lovers of the truth are going to be very interested. However, they are my target audience, not the race-watchers.

I'll say this about Sterling's effort: I have seen much worse. A lot about his effort shows his inexperience, especially playing at the high levels, but at least he is trying, and is probably honestly learning his lessons. I always respect lessons honestly learned, but in this field, few pupils survive the upper-class curriculum, and nobody has matriculated yet. There are far less worthy efforts out there. However, allying with somebody like Mr. Skeptic, whose criminality is evident to anybody more than ten years old, shows how far an effort like that has to go.

I have seen variations of "let's let the fox into the henhouse, but watch him carefully," a number of times. At least they recognize that it is a fox coming in. One of the most dismaying parts of my journey is people calling the fox the chicken's best friend, even when the fox is smiling and has some feathers on his chin. They usually ended up next on the fox's menu. That mindlessness aside, I have watched many lives get destroyed by letting the fox in, as the inviters thought that they were clever enough, careful enough, and so on, to collar the fox when he began nibbling on the chickens. That always proved to be a naïve notion, partly because the fox would not really strike until his "friends" tipped the chicken coup on its side, and the inviters were battling for their own survival, and looked on helplessly as the fox feasted as he also let in his friends. I have watched that dynamic play out, and have seen different aspects of that trajectory, many times. And, like teenage boys on battlefields:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

you just can't tell them what they are getting into. They know better, as they run across the minefield, full of their invincible talent and immortality. Again, I try to not look anymore, but I am continually, and I mean continually, approached by people wanting my assessment of the latest aspirant who begins running through the minefield. Nobody has ever gotten even halfway across, not from an "outsider" trying to run it. Most never even get ten feet into their journey before it ends in life-shattering fashion. And most of what they need to be aware of is not even what the Global Controllers have up their sleeve. The Big Boys don't get involved until the aspirant has dodged a slew of the obvious mines (mainly their own foibles and those of their "allies"),

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

and begins looking like they might have a prayer. For me, it has been like living through that Killer Bunny scene over and over, as an endless stream of aspirants appears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

While people play at low levels of this game, they will never glimpse what happens to the contenders, at least as far it happening in their lives, and I, for one, hope they never do. But, those who have invited the foxes in almost before they have started will turn into a bloody mess before they know what hit them, if they ever do something that looks like it might end up being productive.

Maybe, one day, somebody will make it, but from what I have seen, nobody has had a prayer yet, not the various strategies that I have seen so far, not in today's environment, and I do not encourage any of them.

Again, I am trying to do something different, and we will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

filsmyth

2nd February 2011, 23:42

It isn't easy to keep up with everything, what with so much going on these days...

Wade, what if the geopolitical atmosphere actually changes in a significant and positive manner? Say, how would it effect your attitude if our currency were suddenly backed by something of value, instead of being based on debt?

Wade Frazier

3rd February 2011, 02:55

Hi Fil:

Thanks for the question. As I have noted earlier in this thread, there have been many positive developments in the USA, for instance, in my lifetime. The USA is history's most racist nation, in terms of scale, duration and intensity, but racism is far more muted today than it was when I was a child. Our nation is not nearly as sexist as it once was, even forty years ago. I think that we need not look much further for an explanation than rising economic standards that play out over the generations. Dynamics like that do not go away overnight, but when industrialization began, for instance, with its rising standard of living, hallowed institutions such as slavery and keeping women barefoot and pregnant had a rough time maintaining their legitimacy.

Money has had no intrinsic value in the West, ever, as far as I know. When the Aztecs used corn as money, at least that money had intrinsic value. Gold, silver, paper, and so on, have never had any significant intrinsic value. Even today, only about 10% of the gold mined finds its way into industrial uses. The rest is for hoarding and jewelry – and none of that really has any intrinsic value. Back when gold was the basis of money, about 0% was used for anything that made anybody's lives truly better. Money in of itself is just accounting, and that is my profession, so I know the game. I highly doubt that tweaking the exchange aspect of the economic system will do much, as it is only about social organization and not much else (who produces the real wealth and who enjoys the benefit of it).

Real economics is primarily about energy and always has been. Our so-called advanced economies would quickly disappear without the prodigious amounts of hydrocarbon energy powering them. So, positive developments in the realm of real economics would be impressive, and should be Priority Number One for anybody thinking about righting humanity's ship. Almost all the rest is just noise. Once in a while, you will see a public figure say so, such as Bill Gates about a year ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

But then his idea of answers is still lining up the usual suspects.

That DOE call for papers was kind of interesting, but more for Brian than me:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

Some close pals think it is a honeypot operation, and that would not be surprising.

On positive developments on the geopolitical scene, I regard what we can see to be similar to a free energy inventor with the goods being able to operate without being hassled. Obama and all the world's "leaders" are down the food chain a ways from the people really running things.

Whatever success that an Obama would have would be a symptom of what was happening behind the scenes, and would have little to do with the intrinsic worth of his efforts. So, if Obama, let's say, began to say stuff like:

"Our great nation is militarily involved in Iraq and Afghanistan because our energy companies can make great profits from the plunder, and our industrial infrastructure is based on burning hydrocarbon energy, so it is a win-win for the hydrocarbon interests and the American people. I will admit, however, that I sure would not want to be a dark-skinned person who had the misfortune of living on the land above those hydrocarbon deposits,"

then I would agree that it could be a big step toward positive developments on the geopolitical scene. That little bit of truth would not be much, but it might begin to bust the paradigm. Imagine if Obama apologized to Hiroshima, or Vietnam, or the American Indians, etc.:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#sorry

That sure would be a positive development. As you can see, I am not asking for much – just lip service to the truth. Actual positive action, like the USA closing all of it global military bases and bringing all those soldiers home, I would heartily support and would consider an extremely positive development. As you also see, I am just talking about positive developments taken by the nation that I call home. That is where, as an American, I can have the most impact, and we need to clean up our act before we can ask anybody else to.

Of course, the foreign bases, the USA-inflicted genocides in Asia and elsewhere, the "settling" of our great nation are all about economics, which is almost completely rooted in the energy situation.

Until we move toward changes in real economics, the rest probably does not matter too much. I don't want to seem too negative here, but my work is all about what we can do, not what "they" do. Here is a fantasy for you:

Ten million Americans converge on Washington D.C. and surround a few of those free energy inventors with the goods, and their devices power the congregation. Or ten million Americans converge on Washington DC, not to protest, but to just give the news that they are committed, in whatever way that they can, to heal humanity and the nation. They not only speak up about free energy, cancer cures and some geopolitical truth, but they offer to take in and support all American military personnel while this transition gets underway, so the killing stops. And that would just be for starters.

Ah, but maybe you were asking me for a realistic answer. :)

Realistically, if I saw any of the below events happen, I would think that the dark night might be lifting:

The authorities stopped outlawing cancer cures and jailing doctors who tried to provide them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice

The banking system became truly transparent and publicly-owned:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#enron

on its way to becoming obsolete in an abundance-based economic system.

They began selling windshield-wiper blades that lasted longer than a year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#transportation

They stopped making fluoride a universal additive:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm :)

They stopped promoting biofuels, hydrogen power, wind power and other "solutions" to the energy issue.

If you are thinking more on terms of the global stage, really, if the USA pulled in its horns, a lot would get better almost instantly for the world's oppressed people. If the USA stopped supporting any of these kinds of practices:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#progress

it would give me reason to hope. You will notice grievous international impacts of most of those situations. As far as what other nations could do that would give me hope:

Kicking the USA out of the United Nations, or at least off of the Security Council and from other powerful organizations, because we are the most lawless nation in the UN, defying the world at will:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#record

Or, how about just moving the UN headquarters to South Africa, for instance?

China and Japan dumping the dollar and the world's poor refusing to raise food and make goods for American consumption would give me great hope for the world's people. Close down all the sweatshops making goods for U.S. consumption, and I would consider it a great step forward.

Of course, the ETs landing on the White House lawn would be the big one, and part of me thinks that anything less might be too little, too late.

Here is one close to home: how about a national TV show that dared to tell the truth about Dennis's adventures? If that happened, you could knock me over with a feather. And, if something like that happened, you would know that one hell of a lot happened behind the scenes. As far the score on the global scene is concerned, the adventures of Dennis and the few like him have been my key canaries in the coal mine, and the news is pretty good: the global cabal is deeply fractured and its days might be numbered, as far as its despotic reign is concerned. The evidence that the "white hats" won will be when somebody like Dennis or a Greer races to this finish line.

I also say that because one of the dynamics of the behind-the-scenes activity is that the Big Boys cannot afford to come into the open, or at least they think that they can't. So, they have been protecting Dennis, Greer and some others (maybe even me) from getting totally derailed, because they are the "White Knights on a Steed" that can be used to bring this stuff forward. I can't publicly say all that I know in that department, but Greer has admitted that the insiders saw him that way, and that is partly why he was fed how he was, even though his ride was not exactly an easy one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

In that field, you do not even become a contender until you have survived at least one murder attempt. So, their fate is one of the best single indicators that I know of, as far as what we can see that gives an idea of what is really happening.

But, again, it is easy to get swept up in the horserace, the drama, and so on. I am doing my best to ignore all of that and have devoted my effort to understanding things in a comprehensive fashion, to help develop a pool of heart-centered sentience that can support the solutions when they finally come forward. If there was a pool of that heart-centered sentience large enough, a lot of amazing things can come in out of the cold, but free energy would probably lead that parade.

For instance, if I saw about a dozen forums like this one, with the high-level activists coming out and being engaged in a heart-centered, intelligent manner, with maybe a hundred thousand participants, all taking part, even if it is just being aware, I think that free energy, cancer cures and the like would be downhill racers. So, Bill's forum is the first of its kind that I have heard of, so I consider this a beginning.

I am not sure where this will take us, but I am looking forward to finding out. I really am anxious to get my essay written, and see what I can stir up with it.

We'll see.

Best,

Wade

write4change

3rd February 2011, 05:11

Maybe in any field you don't become a contender until someone tries to kill you. A. S. Byatt's award winning book Possession which is a tour de force of literature written in 1990 goes to great lengths to show what even academics in a bland field of poetry will do for success. Not a pretty picture. I have read this book 4 times and consider a teaching tool for how to write. She was an old lady when she wrote it. Hope for me yet.

So you will know after reading your stuff back and forth thru the links you post, and getting confused. I finally got on your website and I have been reading linearly and consistently.

I know you are very busy but I have put up one thread. You might just scroll thru. Eventually, when I get focus I may ask for specific advice.

I remain daily grateful for landing on your thread first thing first day and it taught me so much about how to go about this. I remain in awe and gratitude.

Smiles, and peace, my friend Jai

filsmyth

3rd February 2011, 06:39

Wade, my friend, the links are there to be found.

Here's one, from another thread:

https://www.freeconferencing.com/playback.html?cn=94-43-28-63&e=2243221200000&cid=conferences/-17-65-6759-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-67126-17-65-67-17-65-6783-17-65-6753122121-17-65-67-17-65-670.mp3

...and here is one I got through a facebook connection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUGGE1t-VA

The main problem with these links is that it takes time to listen, and so many of us are short on time.

So, maybe (though I'm celeberating with beer at the moment -- and yes I see the typo I just made, but choose to leave it) I can summarize...

As with anything, there is good and bad within the elite forces. Apparently the Black Dragon Society have finally been able to manage a major coup, and have done so with a well-thought-out plan. Perhaps I am being premature in announcing this, but it seems that there is to be a major switch -- and that our money will actually be based (again) on something of value, instead of being based on debt.

It could even be that those responsible for a lot of nefarious activities will be made to account for their actions (or at least give reams of excuses, in the public eye).

The elite's practice of spying on everyone is about to have the opposite effect of what was intended, as those who are employed in the spying witness for themselves what is going on.

>> At the moment I'm going to give a definition, for those previously unaware (and for the rest, a reminder): 'Apocalypse' is just a Greek word for 'The Great Revealing' (thank you, Bob Dean). <<

We are not just on the brink of, but fully experiencing, social upheaval. We need not ask when times will change; they are changing before our very eyes.

Free energy, and by association free everything, is an inevitability. We WILL embrace the paradigm of Abundance. One could say it is only a matter of time, but I will submit that the process has already begun.

Before long (according to Alfred Lambremont Webre and a recently-deceased source, Stanley A. Fulham), 'extra-terrestrials' will make their presence known beyond doubt -- and have already begun -- recent YouTube videos bear this out.

I know a lot of people have trouble with hollow-planet theory, but to me it makes sense and so I have come to terms with the idea that there are extremely-advanced peoples who have existed for eons within the interior realm of Earth. If such beings exist, and as they must belong to galactic society, it would be perfectly normal for them to choose this point in the development of surface-dwelling Earthlings to bring the case before whatever tribunal exists, to step in and end the madness.

I'm not saying it will happen 'tomorrow', but the beginning stages are already underway.

Look, I don't have heroes, but Bob Dean is my hero. He was not the first or last to say it, but he said, "Not only are we not alone, but we have never BEEN alone."

Before, we were on the brink of something. Now, the moment to pull back has gone (as if pulling back was ever an option).

We are IN IT.

Still we must push, and engage those around us, as our impetus is a big part of the process.

We are indeed being the change we want to see in the world. I'd tell everyone reading this not to stop, but I have a good feeling that you won't be able to help yourselves.

Stay crunchy.

Wade Frazier

3rd February 2011, 15:13

Hi Jai:

Ah, but no poet was ever offered a billion dollars to stop writing, I would wager. :)

Yes, the scarcity-based paradigm permeates all facets of our societies, as people fight over the scraps. That is why free energy and what can come with it has such overwhelming implications. That is largely why people run away screaming when they glimpse its potential. The world as they know it would end. Heaven on earth is a scary idea, to those who fight for scraps in hell.

I appreciate your confusion. It took me about two years of reading Chomsky’s stuff before his meaning really sank in. It is easy to get lost in the weeds with my writings. That is partly why I created short “doorway” essays to my writings, especially those written since 2003. Essays like these:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm

were intended to impart the paradigmatic nature of my work. If you find yourself getting confused or lost, returning to those essays can help center you once again.

Are you saying that you started a thread at Avalon? Just give me the link.

Best,

Wade

Hi fil:

Yes, plenty is afoot. We’ll see how it all shakes out. I keep my head down and do my thing, and do not concern myself with elite machinations much, because then the focus tends to become what they do and not what we do. I try to ignore them. Maybe one day, there will be a knock on the door, and somebody will be standing there with my free energy machine. And right behind him will be Ed McMahon with the check. Oops! Now there is one that would truly be hard to believe. :)

Best,

Wade

write4change

3rd February 2011, 15:30

Maybe not a billion but a million. The jewish woman who wrote the Predator's Ball about Mike Milken, Ivan Boesky, and T. Boone Pickens etc. was offered a million not to write the book. She wrote the book and unlike Naomi Klein was before her time and did not make much on it. Most of them were probably bought up and dumped. What she wrote was a blue print to what has happened and that was the first test case to see what they could get away with.

Wade, I don't know how to link which is a problem. One of these days I will attract someone who will want to teach me. Right now it is there for a purpose. It is a filter in own way. My thread is called Personal Experience in Utopian Concepts. At first it died, which did not surprise me. Then it got revived. It has started getting 100 views a day which for this site, I think is wonderful.

In turn, it is making me dream a lot of stuff. It is a beginning. What surprises me is how fast time is moving. I feel like I have been working here for a long time and it is work. But the reality is I have been here only 13 days and I spent most of the first week reading all your stuff and your links and now you have given me a bunch more. LOL Reading you is like getting the Zen knock on the head. I think it actually has a weird name starting with a Z that I can't remember. LOL What I also know is I always learn something from you and I should stay motivated to keep this thread alive also. It is one of the best.

Smiles, A good day to you, Jai

modwiz

3rd February 2011, 15:33

Hello wade,
Haven't been here for a bit but now that I am getting more involved with alternative community concepts and fleshing out the multiple aspects of what it would take to WORK you came to mind so here I am with a question.

If you were able to be safe and unmolested by the powers and an alternative community was given the go ahead to proceed with any kind of power generation they wanted to including free energy, would you be able to assist?

Ernie Nemeth

3rd February 2011, 15:41

Hi Wade, and welcome.
I have been perusing your site, off and on, for moths now.
You are a true inspiration. Know you are not alone.
Love and peace

Wade Frazier

3rd February 2011, 16:52

Hi Jai:

If you know how to copy and paste, you copy the link address at the top of your browser and paste it into your post, but I can get to that thread, now that you have named it.

Book suppression is an area that I know something about, I am sad to say, but most is suppression by powerful interests so that the truth does not come out, like with Ralph McGehee:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

Chomsky and Herman:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#crv

and others. People like John Perkins were made the offer, but he refused it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#neocolonialist

So, yes, a million happens, but that gives you an idea of the magnitude of the gulf between people writing and people doing.

Hi Ernie:

Nice to have you out there. You are one of the few to actually use a real name in this forum. Congratulations for your courage!

Be well,

Wade

Hi modwiz:

Boy, I don’t have a few days to go into it all right now, but that is one hell of an if. There is no place on the planet beyond the Global Controllers' reach, and newcomers almost always wonder where there is a safe place to do it. Brian O is trying to create an inventors' sanctuary right now in Ecuador, and I wish him luck:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#oleary

When I was with Dennis, we had three inventors' sanctuaries, and all three were criminally violated. I have said it many times: the only approach that I see with a prayer of going the activist/inventor route is for an inventor with the goods to give it to a worthy group. I have yet to meet that inventor (although I have heard of a few who may have made that grade, and some are dead under “convenient” circumstances), and I have yet to meet or hear of that worthy group. And that is more so that the effort does not internally collapse than it is to weather the attacks from outside, although an internally united effort will be far harder to stop.

I am probably done in this lifetime of trying that route. I have never, ever, ever seen any group that remotely had the right stuff to try to do the free energy community thing. If about twenty Dennises ever were found and got together someplace, then they might have a chance, but those twenty would all need to successfully pass the first step of the application process:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

I used to say that if I saw Dennis having tea at the White House, I would know that the coast was clear. I was being way too optimistic. I have now seen high level free energy activists actually have tea at the White House, and they still had the crap kicked out of them afterward.

When I published that list of qualifications for free aspirants to match before they could think of going forward in today’s environment, one close pal said, “Hey, Mandela would qualify!” My reply to that is, “Great, now we have two! Can Nelson devote the rest of his life to a free energy effort?” Also, I am not so sure about Nelson, chumming around with Jimmy Carter, who is not really much of a human rights activist. As with Mother Teresa, his image is mostly a PR stunt, as Chomsky, Herman or Brzezinski will happily tell you, Brzezinski (Obama’s presidential campaign advisor for foreign policy, of all things) actually bragging about it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#brzezinski

So, if I ever saw twenty applicants that could pass the initial vetting, then I might get interested in helping such an effort. I have fellow travelers who have tried to take over their county, befriend the sheriff and so forth, to create a sanctuary for making free energy happen. I have never really seen anybody come close, yet. If anybody really got serious about doing something like that, and provided convincing evidence that they were serious about it (action, not talk, is always the best evidence, probably the only evidence, worth examining in something like this), then I would give them some names of people who have tried just that, and may be interested in joining the right effort; some pretty high level players. However, they are going to be as skeptical as I am.

I have been invited into such communities over the years, and have been made aware of others. I have never yet seen anything with even a remote chance of success. I am pretty sure that the people that I know and know of would not be interested in sticking out their neck to help unless they really saw evidence of a worthy effort with a prayer. Again, there is a big misperception out there that people working in shacks and workshops can make production-ready free energy devices. Think on the level of an Intel chip factory. The stuff that I am aware of, that has been developed to the thirtieth generation, had Intel-like facilities to do their work. That is a big part of the conundrum and why this stuff has been so easy to derail. The capital requirements to really go after it are so large (not on the Fortune 500 scale, but you probably need a few hundred million dollars to really go after it) make it so that nobody can run under the radar to do it, or even do it straight up - in capitalistic parlance, that kind of money is called a "barrier of entry." :)

Gotta go to work now.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia

3rd February 2011, 21:09

Hello Wade,

1. The more I read your posts the more I think that Mr. Steven Greer's Orion project does not stand a chance... Perhaps a holographic organization is what is required:

Bill Ryan: A holographic organization ( as far as I understand it!) is when there's no pyramid top-down control structure. It's a flat network that still keeps going even if half of it is suddenly removed.

I would add that attempting to "break in half" such an organization may not be what the CG want: they will end up with 2 problems instead of one :)

2. Secondly, I want to ask: are you really convinced that you can not build a free energy device without an Intel level factory? How did Tesla do it then?

I am asking this because I have read all the information at this site: http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/ (by Patrick J. Kelly) and a lot of the systems do not required high precision tools to be built. In fact I have tried to reproduce some of the devices myself at home. (no worries, I had no success so I am safe). I also know of a fellow Romanian that has designed a magnetic motor (and then vanished as far as I know), the point is he did not have a factory either.

I used to believe that one day someone will release via Internet a viral, working and complete design and instruction on how to build such a device, and once 1 million people got hold of it, there would be no stopping it... your views challenge my belief :p

(PS: If I recall correctly Steven Greer's safety policy is based on such tactics: releasing to the public something that they do not want released).

(PS2: I have just realized that there may not be a million people waiting for a free energy device simple because they do not even comprehend such things may even exist...)

Wade Frazier

4th February 2011, 00:47

Hi Pixel:

Long story, there. In industry, you have various stages of technological development. There are proofs of concept, working prototypes, pre-production prototypes and ready-for-production models. And the first models on the market are often shaky, so the fourth generation or so is when they get all the kinks out. Depending on who you talk to, the path from proof-of-concept to ready-for-production is around seven-to-eight years and one hell of a lot of money. And that is for something that is not remotely as novel as FE devices would be. For getting beyond a working free energy prototype, and probably for even getting to that stage, the Intel-style facility and funding is the way to go. That is pretty standard industrial development, especially for mass production.

What made Dennis's heat pump effort so successful, without having to sink $100 million of R&D into it, was that all of the components, except the panel, were standard industrial parts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

When you are not making exotic components from scratch, then it is a lot easier. Dennis only spent a few million dollars doing the R&D over the years to improve his heat pump to where he could begin to carpet cities with them. I am going to guess and say that only $10 million was spent on developing that heat pump (but it piggy-backed on many billions of dollars of R&D and experience in the refrigeration industry). Then the boom was lowered on Dennis, repeatedly. And all of those adventures were just for selling energy conservation equipment, and nowhere near the realm of free energy, and the Global Controllers probably never even got involved, although Bill the BPA Hit Man may have worked for them.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

The Big Boys only got involved when Dennis began making free energy noise.

Again, I don't really keep up that much on that stuff, although I work in the high technology field today and get to see what R&D looks like and how expensive it is. I am sure that the garage tinkerer has more of a chance than he did thirty years ago, but the opposition is a lot better at their game, too.

Again, scientists and inventors have stumbled onto devices that were probably tapping the ZPF. Sparky Sweet:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

my fellow traveler who concocted one in the basement of a nuclear research facility:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#traveler

Adam Trombly did it more deliberately:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

Adam spent more than $20 million on the lab equipment that produced that prototype, and then it all disappeared in the night.

So, some have gotten to the proof of concept stage, or maybe working prototype. Brian O chased them down for many years. He has yet to really see the Real McCoy, as far as something close to production-ready, and he was good friends with Sparky and knows quite well what he lived through, knows Adam's story, and that kid's in the nuclear lab, and I am sure that he could tell many more stories than I can, that he got from the first-hand participants. I have not tried to collect stories; they just come with the territory if you begin playing at the high levels. I know of enough of them to know how that particular land lies. Maybe the terrain has shifted a little over the years, but I think it is just a little, because I keep seeing the same stories over and over and over, even if I really don't want to hear about them. Again, the dissention in the ranks of the Global Controllers is probably the most important variable right now. Like it or not, their level is probably where this will be decided in the short term, but I am not going to sit back and wait for them to decide the issue.

However, what happened to all three of those people mentioned above, after their discovery/invention, is stuff that I want to stay a million miles from, personally. Been there, done that. If people like surviving murder attempts (or, in Sparky's case, it looks like he did not survive the last one), being jailed, having their house or laboratory stripped to the walls or burned down, getting bankrupted and being endlessly attacked by their friends and family, then that path might be right down their alley. Again, the biggest obstacles are the foibles of the aspirants and their "allies," not what the Global Controllers dish out. But nobody wants to hear it. Probably one-in-a-hundred (thousand? ten thousand?) free energy aspirants gets to achieve what Sparky and Adam did. And that is when the fun just begins.

I'll give you a couple of glimpses into what happens. One of my awakening moments was when I witnessed several groups fighting over the carcass of Dennis's Seattle company:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient2

That fight was over the carcass of a company that had not even thought about free energy. What happened in Ventura was vastly uglier. As you can tell, I like presenting colorful metaphors. It is some of the only fun that I get in this stuff. Imagine a bunch of orcs sitting around the campfire, complacently picking their teeth as they digest their tasty dinner, and then from the sky Sauron's ring is dropped right in the middle of them. Imagine the scramble to be the orc that gets the ring. Most free energy efforts that I have seen, that had some potential, eventually began to look like that orc fight (and Sauron looked on from a distance and laughed). Tolkien himself, as I recall, once said that we all had to be like Samwise Gamgee, instead of Saruman or Boromir, if we are to make it as a species.

The vast majority of garage tinkerers are not tapping the ZPF. If they did, they would immediately come onto the radar, and the GCs have far more surveillance capability than that "mere" radar that can detect when the ZPF is being accessed. For many reasons, trying to sneak past them is crazy.

Tapping into the ZPF is a lot harder than it looks. There is a religious community in Switzerland that apparently has had some ZPF technology running for a generation at their commune. Now, why do you think they might be quietly doing nothing to bring it forward? If their stuff is real, I am sure that they have some very interesting stories to tell.

Tesla was a long way from electrifying the world with FE, and his tower method was not tapping the ZPF. Again, I have no interest in encouraging the naïve to stick their nose into "trying to do something," when they have absolutely no conception what they are getting themselves into. There are probably ten (hundred? thousand?) pounds of chaff in this field for every kernel of wheat.

The people who have developed these technologies to the level where it can be home-ready have trillions of dollars at their disposal, and they watch the pot very carefully. I am always reminded of Monty Python's Killer Bunny when people ask about how they can go about doing free energy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

I can't look at what Dennis or Greer are doing and think that they have a prayer. But, as with Sterling, they are trying. Greer and Dennis figure that their lives are forfeit for what they are doing, and they are risking themselves in ways that are hard to comprehend until you have been there. The odds of their success are extremely slim, if we want to be rational about it. However, when I mortgaged my life to give Dennis a sliver of a chance, it incredibly worked, even though I figured that I was throwing my life away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

So, I know that the miracles can happen, and if a Dennis or Greer is ever successful, they know that they will have to chalk their success up to divine intervention, not their unique virtues. I often wonder about that voice that launched me on that journey and what its motivation is. I think that it was divine intervention, but I am not sure, and my ride was too rough to want to hear from that voice again, not if it has anything like what I have been through in mind. There are plenty of gung-ho-ers out there, playing the free energy aspirant game, and I wish them the best, but if people want to go try to slay the Killer Bunny, I hope they don't mind if I don't watch, and I will never encourage anybody to emulate them. If they have survived a murder attempt or two, had their facility destroyed and rejected the zillion dollar bribe, then I might be willing to commiserate with them, and we can trade stories of our experiences and learn from each other. I would also send them Dennis's and Greer's way, if they have not already been there. However, I only know of a few of those on the planet.

Again, I left that all behind long ago, and am trying something different. A comprehensive perspective will be needed, if free energy comes out next week or next year or never, and that is what I am attempting to help people attain, not to help them go chasing after the Killer Bunny.

Let there be no misunderstanding my intentions; there are two notions that I am always going to highly discourage in my public writings and my participation in this forum:

1. Encouraging people to be heroes (chase the Killer Bunny);

2. Encouraging people to wait for the heroes to save us (watch the horseraces).

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

4th February 2011, 04:16

Brian O thinks that this is about the best of his perspective on this energy issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrj_SqOzlM

Ernie Nemeth

4th February 2011, 12:16

Hi Wade,
I've had this idea for a long time but no way to test it. It's probably nothing but...
A simple series DC motor with no load, in theory at least, will continue to speed up indefinitely. Of course it is limited by the physical components. I always wondered if there could be a way to make use of this characteristic somehow in some sort of novel design. I know its simplistic but I think the principle is sound.
My other idea is somehow using stationary and rotating magnetic fieds as the stator and rotor, With no solid parts, such a design in a series motor could in theory be made to rotate at infinite speed (quasi-infinite, a threshold that I believe exists). Once at such a speed, it would never come to a stop.
Anyways, I'm just a lowly electrician so I do not propose to know enough to say for sure. Probably shoulda said nothing, but who knows, Right?
Peace

Wade Frazier

4th February 2011, 16:12

Hi Ernie:

It is OK to have ideas about how to do free energy. The lines that you are thinking in are what many others have thought of. Troy Reed has pursued the rotating magnet motor, as have many others. Again, almost all free energy aspirants that I am aware of are going after the ZPF, whether they know it or not. However, tapping it is a lot harder than it looks, and people who think that they can do it in their workshops are playing with nuclear dynamite, in a few ways. I grew up in a world-class inventor’s workshop. We had three inventors’ sanctuaries when I was with Dennis, and all three were criminally violated. You can see a picture here as I am supervising the raid while they are taking away all of our demos and prototypes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid

Boy, that sure was fun! :)

I am going to ask the mods and admins to think about opening other threads, along the lines of the various interests that people have. I wrote something on that subject a few years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#pursuit

I probably will not participate much, if at all, in those threads, but they are obviously where almost all of the interest in this thread is. I am not really interested in those discussions, but others should be able to have at it, and with my blessings.

To give a little update of that section that I wrote in 2006:

1. If you want to be a free energy hero - building free energy prototypes, building organizations around them and so forth - I would start by looking up Brian O’Leary, Steven Greer and Dennis Lee, who are all looking for heroes and spear carriers to help. Their hearts are in the right place. They are all human with their limitations, like us all, but they mean well, which is more important than any other attribute. I know Dennis and Brian the best, and really don’t know Greer personally, but our paths have crossed plenty. You can do far worse than become involved with them, if you plan to take the hero’s route to free energy, or assist it. Good luck, and please make sure that your earthly affairs are in order before you begin.

2. If you want to cheer on the free energy aspirants and don’t mind watching them get regularly martyred, the New Energy Congress is one place where you can stay abreast of those spectacles.

3. If you want to discuss free energy physics, the New Energy Congress or New Energy Movement is where you may find fruitful conversation. There are also other forums scattered across the Internet. Debating free energy physics is not my specialty, and others are far more qualified to have that discussion than I am.

4. If you want to discuss free energy conspiracies and what the Global Controllers are up to, other threads in this forum deal with such subject matter, as do plenty of other Internet forums. Although I have been targeted by such conspiracies and had my life wrecked by them, I do not consider them all that important and do not like discussing them; it not only takes a lot out of me to recall those days, the entire conversation tends to promote conspiracism (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism) and other unproductive responses. In the end, it is about us and what we do, not what they do. It is time to begin acting like creators, not victims and spectators.

I am attempting to initiate a conversation where energy becomes understood as the root resource of life on earth, the human journey and our future. Energy acquisition, preservation and consumption define almost all aspects of our existence, in ways that are both obvious and subtle. A major problem, as I came to understand it over the long years, is that very few people in the industrialized world have any idea how energy runs their world, where it comes from, what it is used for, and how energy scarcity defines their existence in almost every facet, especially in the so-called advanced economies. Energy abundance would change all of that, and in ways that very, very few people have ever dared to consider.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

That is the perspective that I am trying to lodge in human awareness. I have been doing plenty of research over the past several years on that subject, reading material on geology, evolution, anthropology, economics and how energy is what it all rides atop. What passes for economics today is obsessed on the exchange aspect of economics (money, banking, etc.), which is meaningless in a world of abundance. Almost everybody hacks at branches and obsesses on issues that mean very little in the big picture. That appears to be largely because they do not have comprehensive perspectives, but seize on what is close to them, usually what feeds them, and they can’t let go. Greer made a similar observation:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#addiction

I am trying to raise the conversation above, way above, inventors in garages, heroes chasing the Killer Bunny and people who enjoy watching them race, getting rich in a world of scarcity, money and the retail political scene, and so on. I have relatively little interest in that subject matter, and there are many, many places where such interests can be pursued. I am not looking for a large audience, but one that can begin thinking in a comprehensive manner. I realize that I am looking for needles in haystacks, and I have not put my line in the water for years, but Bill’s invitation-only forum is what I had in mind for when I finished my essays, so this is a prelude to the discussion that I hope to initiate in the near future.

I am trying something that I have never seen anybody else try before. Will it have an immediate impact on the free energy conundrum? Perhaps not. However, it is a missing ingredient in all efforts that I ever saw or heard of, and if we make it over the hump, humanity will need to begin thinking comprehensively. It is quite possible that without more of us thinking comprehensively, we do not have a prayer of getting over the hump. In virtually all efforts that I have ever seen, almost nobody really had any idea what was at stake. It is not about somebody becoming the Bill Gates of free energy and becoming the world’s first quadrillionaire,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

although I understand the attraction. The human ship is listing to port, and badly. It can be righted almost immediately and turn into a rocket in almost no time, if only enough of us developed some heart-centered sentience. I truly believe that it would not take many of us. That is what I am trying to find out.

As is evident on this thread, my perspective is new and unusual on the free energy scene, because most respondents only have experience in watching the heroes scale the ramparts, working in their garages on their dream, hearing the tales of horror as the aspirants are martyred, hoping for the buyout offer, and so on. Impatience is my Achilles’ heel,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

and joining this forum is once again testing it. :)

I am getting used to the notion that almost everybody with any awareness of the free energy field has been focusing on the spectacle and other aspects that have, so far, proven to be completely unproductive. It is OK, because that is pretty much all that has been visible. But, it is only the tip of the iceberg and people need to stop fixating on it if they want to be productive. I highly doubt that we are going to get there, obsessed with the spectacle, the tinkerers, the heroic aspirants, the conspiracism, and so on. We all need to raise our games. Can you help me do that?

Best wishes to all,

Wade

Ilie Pandia

4th February 2011, 16:34

Wade,

I understand why you get impatient, and I thank you for your patience so far!

If I got it right, you are saying that talking about conspiracies, trying to beat the system at its own game, discussing the physics behind ZPE, tinkering in our garage are all unproductive routes (based on your extensive life experience) and also because we play the role of victims (instead of creators). I think I got this right mainly from your essay: Keys to comprehending abundance based paradigms.

So I feel that the purpose of your site is to stop people from wasting their energy with actions that are bound to fail.

What I did not understand, so far, is what can we "do"? Like some practical advice...

Your goal is to raise awareness with regards to the fact that:
1. Free energy is possible and we should at least dream about it! (instead of denial)
2. Everything in our society revolves around energy.

How can we help you do this?

Going now through some of Seth's writings (Nature of personal reality) I think I understand why is very important to first imagine this free energy. So I am trying to do that... this is one of the reasons that I follow your posts, to keep the free energy in my awareness. But what else could we "do"?

Ernie Nemeth

4th February 2011, 17:04

Hi Wade,
Wow, I never thought I would hit a nerve with that post but that's my naivety showing through. Of course that would be your reaction, given your history. For that I am sorry.
I only want to make clear my intentions, then I'll leave it be.
I have absolutely no ambition to be the next Bill Gates of free energy - or of anything else. If I came up with such a machine I would give it away to everyone for free. I do not want to live in an ivory tower...looking down upon the rable.
Also, I have already read every link to your site that you pointed out in your post. I think I have some understanding of the Abundance Paradigm as I, too, am writing a book related to this idea. I am not sure what you are trying to get at but I completely respect your opinions and acknowledge and defer to your superior understanding on these matters.
So, I wait with bated breath to read your newest essays and join in this new, higher discusion.
Peace

modwiz

4th February 2011, 17:09

Wade Frazier

4th February 2011, 21:06

Hi Pixel:

Again, you bring up big subjects. :)

I will write a pretty lengthy reply this weekend, but for now, let me say that as an American, I have yet to meet anybody who was born and raised in the USA who completely shed these ideological mind-crutches:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

unless, of course, they were an accomplished self-server, as their ideology is all about what serves them best:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

The most accomplished of them run the world, and they keenly realize that if people kneel at those altars, they are easily controlled. Since you are not an American, it seems, maybe that list of scarcity-based ideologies looks a little bit different for you, but if you can completely shed your particular brand of scarcity-based conditioning, you will be about one-in-a-million or so. If you can even mute their influence in your daily existence and thinking, you will be extremely rare and valuable, at least to me, because I think that people who can think like that are what can take us over the hump. Of course, it all begins in the heart.

So, far, only a tiny, tiny fraction of humanity has demonstrated the ability to sing the abundance song. If you can do that, even just in the quietness of your heart, you are doing plenty, believe me. If an abundance chorus ever got going, that might do the trick. Then again, it might not, but since almost nobody on the planet today can even imagine abundance, just thinking about it is one heck of a start. As you know, I have been putting some visions in this thread of what it can look like:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=114629&viewfull=1#post114629

I hope that others can do their own visioning, improve on what I see is possible, and can help raise humanity's collective awareness and spirit to where we may have a chance of leaping the octave into real, true abundance.

Others are trying in their own way, and Dennis, Greer and Brian know, to one degree or another, what I am talking about, and I have seen them better it at times, too. They take the high, hard road, and I can only stand back in awe and watch them go after it, as they risk their lives, time after time.

Let there be no misunderstanding the situation, they are risking their lives, and anybody who joins up with them is taking on risks that will not be obvious at first, and might not become obvious until it is too late. One of my most vivid memories of the weeks after the raid is the back of my mind racing, trying to find an honorable way out. By that time, I was in too deeply and had to ride it out, if for no other reason than being able to look at myself in the mirror without flinching.

I am not asking anybody to play at that level, although, as you can tell by the all pseudonyms in this forum, people seem to think that openly acting in a forum like this, using their real names, is more risk than they can take on. For the conversation that I plan to mount, I may require a little more courage, and have people use their real names.

Again, you will hear more from me on this important subject this weekend.

Best,

Wade

Ah, Ernie:

No, you did not hit a nerve, and that post is not directed at you, at least the parts that you seem to think are. If you read through this thread, you will see a fair number of queries that are similar to yours, people turning the Rubik's Cube this way and that, but that is a Cube that I slept with under my pillow for many years, and I put it away long ago. I figured that it was about time to reiterate what I am trying to accomplish here, and yes, you helped me come to that decision. :)

If you think that you hit a nerve, you should see how my experience at ATS went:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll1

Even that did not hit a nerve, but it was challenging to rise above that fray. That thread that I refer to, and is the one that they banned me over, gives a good overview of how all-comer conversations about this subject material go. It veered into the "laws of physics" trap, repeatedly, got dragged in all sorts of directions, a troll who may be a professional camped on the thread, and instead of the moderators protecting me, they fed me to the wolves and then banned me.

The one that did hit a nerve back then was another forum that I was invited into, with my own section, even, that was a New Agey forum. It was kind of like this forum, but Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

soon crashed it, and not long afterward, without even asking me, the forum owner completely wiped out my forum and all the threads. I made around eighty lengthy posts to that forum. It is another example of where your "allies" are usually the ones that hurt you the most. That was the one that caused me to go silent for years, although ATS, I suppose, was largely a waste of time.

So, no, I would not worry about my reaction if I were you. :) However, there have been several "Rubik's Cube" posts in recent days, and I really want to keep the conversation from going in those rabbit holes. Really, people can have those conversations on other threads and I won't mind. They can be good, meaningful conversations, and everybody in this field has had them, at one time or another. I am just trying something different.

Impatience is my Achilles' heel, and it has been a challenge, I can assure you, for somebody with that affliction to attempt what I am attempting, but I suppose, as usual, that I asked for it. :)

Hi Modwiz:

The Nature of Personal Reality might have been Seth's masterpiece.

Best,

Wade

Ilie Pandia

4th February 2011, 21:59

Hello,

My real name is Ilie Pandia. I am sure that for the ones who know were to look there really is not privacy here. The reason I am not using my real name is because no English speaker got it right so far (the closest form was "Ilia"). Also is hard to pronounce for non-romanian speakers. At work I had to resort to "Ely" so that people could call for me.

I am looking forward for your new post.

I am aware that I did not completely remove scarcity from my heart. But I am working on it. I am still trapped in materialism and scientism, but not as trapped as I used to be two years ago.

Wade Frazier

4th February 2011, 22:34

Do you want to go by Ilie or Pixel? :)

Some have been signing off with what seems to be their first name, under a different avatar. In this conversation, I am obviously not requiring real names, and I may not in the Big One that I hope to launch. However, that was my initial vision. It kind of goes counter to my intent to have a conversation that seeks to encourage people to dare to imagine abundance, where the participants are hiding behind their anonymity. Yes, there is no anonymity on the Internet, especially for anybody interacting in a forum like this. There is no place to hide from the people whose interest it might surprise you to know.

If I get the future conversation heading where I hope it will go, I have a dream that some pretty prominent people will eventually join it, but we will see how it goes.

If you saw the diverse avenues that my fellow travelers took, it might amaze you. From policeman to migrant farmworker to astronaut to medical doctor to policeman to modern-day Tesla to materialist to mystic to CIA operative to scientist to Marxist to hard-core capitalist to federal investigator to college professor to programmer to religious fanatic, and so on. The overgrown Boy Scout dynamic is probably what most of us had in common:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

But not all of us were, and we often had a mystical awakening while young, but again, not everybody did. All of us fed at the scarcity-based trough from infancy, as with arguably all people, and the ways that we awakened were also diverse, but usually, it was by experiences that showed us how false our indoctrination really was. It was usually a painful experience, sometimes acutely, but not always.

I will always be working on shedding my indoctrination. That stuff goes deep into the bones, especially when they get ahold of you when you are young. :)

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#blinded

But, I believe that a key part of the sentience process is overcoming that conditioning. It is not easy, obviously.

That you are working on it is good work, and will benefit you, if nobody else. However, those who can put their conditioning aside, at least for parts of their day, will likely be leading humanity away from the abyss and toward something that might resemble heaven on earth. :)

Glad you are here,

Wade

Ilie Pandia

4th February 2011, 22:38

Quick question about service to self vs. service to others: Have you read the book "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne?

Here is a quote that caught my attention:

Each individual is acting from his own knowledge in way he believes will bring him happiness. He acts to produce the consequences he thinks will make him feel better. I could use up pages answering every possible exception to this principle: suicide, masochism, altruism, and so on. In every case, I come to the same conclusion: The individual feels that his actions will provide more mental well-being or less mental discomfort that anything else he can think of. To test this conclusion, just ask yourself how the individual would feel in you were to interfere with his wrist-slashing, getting his daily beating or doing "good works".

In light of the above quote... everybody is self serving... because even when serving others you do that because it feels good to you and is in alignment with your beliefs.

Wade Frazier

4th February 2011, 22:46

Big question, and maybe this weekend I will address it. But I am not familiar with that author. Ra says that the two poles are love-related; love of self or love of other self. Perhaps like Browne's quote, love of other self has been called love of self through love of others. Lots of paradox there, obviously. :)

modwiz

4th February 2011, 23:33

Hello Wade,

I want to thank you for your generous and detailed response to my question the other day.

I also believe that Nature of Personal Reality is the masterpiece of the Seth books if for no other reason than its utility in applying the concepts to real life and expanding consciousness at the same time.

Dennis Leahy

4th February 2011, 23:50

Wade,

Greetings! And, thank you! I have just begun my journey through your written material (hope it does not take me a month!), but already I am very impressed at your genuineness, your diligence, and especially your compassion. If I have a measuring stick for beings, it is not spiritual accomplishment, but rather compassion. (They often go hand-in-hand, but not always.)

I must say that having identified the two greatest sources of negative energy on this planet as the international banking cabal and the energy cabal, and fully believing that they will be defeated in my current lifetime, it was a hard punch in the solar plexus to read your account of the trials (literally and figuratively) and tribulations of Dennis Lee. Thanks so much for writing that though - every word of it. It is important to know the depth and breadth of judicial and prosecutorial corruption that exists, and that was a good primer.

Again, thank you for being here, and thank you for being you!

Namaste,

Dennis

Wade Frazier

5th February 2011, 01:37

Hi Modwiz:

You are welcome. I still clearly remember the thrill of reading the first fifty pages or so of The Nature of Personal Reality, back in 1978 or so. That is still one of the highlights of my many years of digesting channeled literature.

Hi Dennis:

Well met, and thanks for the kind words. The banking and energy folks definitely have a firm grip on humanity's throat (and other parts of our collective body), but I have heard, from sources that I respect, that the people enforcing the Western medical racket are more ruthless than those enforcing the energy racket. From what I have seen:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

I don't doubt it much. If I had to guess, that is because energy is by far the wealthiest racket, in real wealth terms, and the vast majority of that $100 billion of quiet money that they have paid out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

has gone to keeping the disruptive energy technology genie in the bottle. The medical racketeers are not as rich, so they can't write billion dollar checks, willy-nilly, so they go straight for the snuff jobs. They don't bother much with the friendly buyout offers and such, at least not anymore.

Also, I am sure that it has to do with how readily free energy could become greatly disruptive to the global power structure. Also, my understanding is that the cartels are related at the high levels. The Global Controllers know that energy is the lynchpin from which all real wealth derives, so they have a loose checkbook.

About Dennis: if they ever made a movie of his life, it would be simply unbelievable, as if the Hollywood suits concocted a crazy hybrid of Indiana Jones, P.T. Barnum, and Mohandas K. Gandhi, going for something so over the top that people would laugh at the preposterous tale and protagonist. I met Dennis both times, immediately after he was released from his long incarcerations (when he wrote his most significant books – being imprisoned slowed him down long enough so that he could write about his adventures). Each time, his reaction upon meeting him was approximately, "Well, that didn't hurt much, and it was educational." I flew him out of California as soon as he left prison, had his plane stop in Columbus, where I lived at the time, and we spent a few hours at the airport. During the course of that conversation, he talked about nearly getting murdered in there, when their "mistakes" in his security file found him in a prison that he should have never been in, bunking with murderers.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_ednref53

His first cellmate was in for multiple murders, and was the baddest dude in the yard, and ran it. Dennis was kind of a celebrity inmate because the guards had heard him on radio shows and the like, he was a businessman and he was writing a book while in prison, like he did in the Ventura County jail, which mightily impressed his cellmate, who then made sure that Dennis was unmolested, even though Dennis would not follow the racist code in there. Long story, but the guards later put him in position to get murdered, and even tried to keep him in that position for days (probably not "conspiratorial" in that instance, but just the wonderful nature of the prison system), and Dennis got "lucky," and "only" had some fingers broken and teeth knocked out. All for failing to file a form.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#stick

Let's just say that my first encounter with the legal system was a doozy! :)

Thanks for reading, but I am sorry for your pain in reading that stuff. I don't like thinking about it much, but those days will live with me forever.

Best wishes,

Wade

filsmyth

5th February 2011, 05:44

... Secondly, I want to ask:[/B] are you really convinced that you can not build a free energy device without an Intel level factory? How did Tesla do it then?

The material on Tesla's 1931 free energy demonstration is quite scarce, but:

Subject : Tesla's Electric Car
Date : Mon, 07 Apr 1997 02:15:31 GMT
This is an excerpt from the book, "Secrets of Cold War Technology - Project HAARP and Beyond", by Gerry Vassilatos. - ISBN 0-945685-20-3

http://keelynet.com/energy/teslcar.htm

Anyone trying to imagine what our world would be like now, if Tesla had been successful in distributing what I consider the crowning achievement of his career 80 years ago, would have to factor in a different environment. Our world is the way it is not just because his ultimate invention was silenced (and he himself quietly assassinated, not long after), but because of the forces that have continued to silence and/or eliminate inventors and indeed anyone speaking out in ways that could lead to 'problems'.

You'd have to imagine that WWII never happened, in such a scenario...

It has crossed my mind that our automotive culture may be so fascinating to some -- though of course they would not realize it -- because the progression of development of the internal combustion engine here on Earth might be fairly unique, by galactic standards. A more natural technological course would have left internal combustion as an historical curiosity...

Tesla spent his life bringing our world marvelous electrical inventions, filing over 700 patents in the process. He was so advanced that (as one small example) he was testing little glass-bodied radio-controlled electric submarines in New York's Central Park in 1896! And, he did not leave our world before inventing the crown jewel atop everything else that he brought to us -- but of course, almost no one knows this.

Ah, but the knowledge of that practical demonstration -- 80 years ago -- allows us to extrapolate and begin to imagine what secret developments must have been made since then. At the very least (and without the help of back-engineered alien craft) we can be reasonably certain that this particular invention has been perfected and miniaturized over the decades to the point where -- as Dr, Brian O'Leary has described -- you could have something the size and shape of a deck of cards powering your home.

How much would you have to pay for one?

The answer would have to be 'nothing'. One, since these things would have to be produced by the billions, the individual 'cost' of a single unit would be insignificant. Two, because offering them at a price, any price, would go against the entire idea.

I'm not saying this is how it will work, but it makes sense to me:

These billions of little devices would be produced in secret... Now come to think of it, that wouldn't cost anything either -- except time and effort -- because with free energy comes free everything. Perhaps someone would have to pay for materials and a location -- but depending on who that someone is, perhaps not. When enough of them are ready, and the time is judged to be right, they would be distributed as broadly and as quickly as practicable, along with instructions...

No, that wouldn't do. We'd need electricians going house-to-house, installing these devices outside and telling everyone it's just a meter upgrade -- and yes it should appear as though they work for the local electrical power provider. Either it could be installed on the supply side of the meter, or it could pose as a new type of meter. What's important is that no one who isn't qualified attempts to install these things as domestic power sources, and that they're on the correct side of all your electrical breaker boxes. Meanwhile, if anyone loses power even for a few minutes, things should appear 'normal' so they don't panic.

In such a situation, your power company would have already been 'taken over' -- and so, many of the electricians installing the devices would have already been power company employees.

At some point people will have to be told what's going on. If they are not, at least at first, deceived in the gentle way I have described above? We could expect massive protests from those who don't understand and don't trust this new development, and clamoring from those who want it NOW.

As you might be able to tell, I didn't think everything through before beginning this post. B-) Have just been letting the ideas flow...

Okay. So, everyone should be informed, and everyone's electrical bills should stop (never mind the 'meter upgrade' ruse). Or, maybe the devices could remain so-called property of the so-called power company for a while, with customers paying a small per-device flat rate or fee, just to pay for the army of electricians suddenly employed to install them. At any rate (pun intended), this should happen all around the world at the same time.

Good thing an army of people have been hired and trained as electricians -- people everywhere will be using more electricity than ever, and will need wiring upgrades.

Automotive manufacturers will have to build free-electric vehicles to stay in business...

...But of course the advent of free energy effects everyone and everything -- not just the power companies, but the natural gas companies, the heating oil providers, the automotive industry and, biggest of all, the oil corporations.

The very idea of it is anathema to, as Wade calls them, the Global Controllers.

Eventually -- and I do have to thank you, Wade, for my comprehension of this -- our newfound prosperity transforms our world into one of true abundance. People might still want to barter for a while, but we will have transcended the need for a monetary system...

...and even then, we will only be experiencing the beginning.

Wade Frazier

5th February 2011, 11:55

Hi fil:

Unfortunately, apocryphal tales abound around Tesla, such as the Philadelphia Experiment stories. Long ago, I read a book by F. David Peat titled In Search of Nikola Tesla, where he poked into Tesla’s legacy and came up empty with a lot, but there was plenty of mystery, too. What Tesla did and did not develop will be a matter of conjecture for a long, long, time. What rings so true about that account is him playing the secrecy game. That plays right into the Global Controllers’ hands in several ways. When you play the secrecy game, especially in the free energy field, you are on the way to falling on your sword, maybe with some help from the Big Boys, but usually all on your own, or maybe with a little help from your friends. This is another aspect of the conundrum.

Again, I harken back to Seth’s statement about positively impacting our reality: the means become the ends.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

I try to stay away from apocryphal stuff in my work as much as I can, because there is so much deliberate disinformation out there, and other inaccuracies. Because I have encountered three scientists who knew Sparky Sweet, who observed, studied and tested his device, some who are very close to me, I felt that I could write about his technology and travails without getting too apocryphal:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

My account of my buddy who got the underground exotic technology demonstration:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#underground

also is “one degree of separation” from the participant, a participant whom I know very well. Sparky played the secrecy game, as have others, and they all ended up taking their secrets to their graves.

Yes, you are thinking about how to get from here to there to that world of abundance, twiddling that Rubik’s Cube. :)

It is OK to do that, but beware – it can also end up making you crazy. :)

I think that it might be possible, if enough people could simply imagine abundance, and not in some airy-fairy New Age way, but in very practical ways, that it can be one of the catalysts, if not the catalyst. Will the Global Controllers see this as a threat? I hope not, but I could be wrong. Some of my Internet stalkers are probably professionals. Again, the Global Controllers are fractured and have their hands full on many fronts. But, I would never dream of trying to sneak past them. That is a non-starter. Nobody on Earth can sneak past them. They are the undisputed masters of their Earthly game, and I bow to them in recognition. But, they probably are down the food chain a ways, when compared to our ET pals, but that damn Prime Directive keeps them at bay, and for our own good, or at least that is what Jean-Luc Picard believes. :)

Best,

Wade

Hi Pixel:

OK, to your previous post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=122725&viewfull=1#post122725

I am not saying that all such avenues are bound to fail, but that I have seen many people waste their life’s energies on those avenues, in ways that were quite unnecessary, unless learning the hard way was the point. Again, much of it was the Killer Bunny situation, where I would try to warn gung-ho-ers about what they were getting themselves into, and they would scoff, openly challenge me, and so on, as they sallied forth and became a dragon snack within minutes of setting out to go hunt dragons (or Killer Bunnies, depending on your favorite metaphor :) ). God, I don’t want to watch anymore.

And I get emailed, all the time, stuff like a link to a video of some Australian inventor and his businessman buddy, operating out of their workshop, on some news program, talking about how they are going to raise money and get his free energy gizmo out there, or some guys in a Third World country who came up with something, and they are talking up their discovery, writing technical papers about it, like it was some run-of-the-mill discovery that would go through the usual scientific and technical steps on its way to getting out there. Lambs to the slaughter; all of them. I am not kidding you – I will probably get an email like that in the coming month (speak of the devil! I got one of those emails a few hours after I wrote this, and the site I was sent the link to I consider a disinformation site – plenty of them out there, and that one libels Dennis http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel), from some well-meaning pal out there, keeping me in the loop, when it is a loop that I have no interest in keeping up on. More people chasing the Killer Bunny. It is numbing.

So, yes, all of those avenues are highly perilous, and nobody has run that gauntlet yet, although there is an endless stream of aspirants, with the vast majority having no idea what they are getting themselves into. Again, most will never even come onto the Global Controllers' radar, as they will fall on their swords before they even leave home. Developing disruptive technologies for market, any market, is very difficult. Just running a successful business, any business, is extremely difficult and requires diverse talents. Trying to break into any market is a crapshoot. The people chasing after the Killer Bunny, virtually without exception, have no experience in business and entrepreneurship, even with running a hotdog stand, but they think they are going to go bust into the energy field and disrupt it. More naïve notions are rarely encountered.

So yes, I discourage all those would-be dragon slayers from sallying forth, not when they all have peach fuzz on their cheeks. If I had to put a nifty title on my adventures, it would be something like The Squire’s Journey. I have carried plenty of spears in my day, watched some of the best there have ever been go up against the dragon, and I have carried some home on their shields. So, when I see the aspirants who can barely swing their swords get all girded up to go hunt the Killer Bunny, or play Boy General, and I don’t even see a scratch on their armor, I want to say, “Son, sit down! Go home! You have no idea what you are getting into.” Except when I have said that, all I receive back are looks of disbelief and scoffing. They promise to send me a postcard, perched atop the dragon’s head that they are going to mount on their wall. They are never heard from again. :)

This is not a task for Young Warriors:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

and those into martyrdom are no help, either.

Yes, I have some pointed purposes in my work, especially for what is to come:

1. Helping people understand the energy issue, just on the mundane level, such as how it drives all ecosystems, all economies, and so forth.

2. Helping people understand that energy scarcity defines our existences in ways that it can take a long, long time to understand. Many aspects of our existences that we take for granted, such as cities, are that way largely because of energy scarcity.

3. Helping people understand that energy abundance is here, but suppressed, because scarcity is being artificially enforced onto humanity for reasons of Earthly power.

The first one is fairly straightforward science, economics and related studies. The propaganda systems, however, actively obscure those obvious issues. If people can understand the first one, and I am going to do what I can to help them to – that has been the purpose of the past several years of study, the second should not be too hard to comprehend; it really only takes quiet reflection to see most of it, once you have a trained eye. Understanding the first two issues are not that difficult, and do not “violate” the current paradigms. The third one is the tough one, largely because of all of that scarcity-based indoctrination that traps 99%+ of the people in layers 0 to 3 of the free energy onion:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

People can’t go there unless they love the truth enough to unhook from their indoctrination. Again, it will not be many people, at least at first. I don’t ask anybody to accept anything on faith, but if they want to have a free energy device delivered to their home before they take any of this seriously, then they are not a member of my target audience. But, I do point people to where they can get experience, of the non-life-threatening variety, where they can bust some of the paradigms that they may be trapped in:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

There is plenty of learning that can be done, short of being in the room with a real, live free energy machine at work. Heck, I have never been in the room with one, and I don’t need to be. I know they are out there. :)

Again, raising one’s awareness beyond our scarcity-based conditioning is plenty. Taking heed of people who have been in the field, getting scorched by the dragon, is prudent. I always listen to the voice of experience.

On the self-serving/other-serving dichotomy, I really think that I have already said it about as well as I can, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

Love is the answer, and always has been. Of course, in this world of duality, it is all wrapped in paradox. However, if somebody’s heart is not in the right place, my work will not mean anything to them and they will not be in my target audience. Also, some highly accomplished self-servers are keenly aware of my efforts and will do their best to derail them. Bill and friends will see to it that they do not troll my threads at Avalon, but the dark side can be clever and subtle, so we will see how this goes.

I have a busy weekend ahead of me, and I need to get with it.

Thanks for the questions,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth

5th February 2011, 12:25

"soon crashed it, and not long afterward, without even asking me, the forum owner completely wiped out my forum and all the threads. I made around eighty lengthy posts to that forum. It is another example of where your "allies" are usually the ones that hurt you the most. That was the one that caused me to go silent for years, although ATS, I suppose, was largely a waste of time. "

Thanks Wade. I think I now understand where you are coming from. Thanks for the direct response to me and to all the others. It shows of what you are made. That you are sincere is beyond doubt. I will stand ready to listen and serve. You are most definitely onto something.

I have written to Micheal Tellinger when I first heard of his theories on Contributionism. Like you, I do not like the reference to an "ism" but it is a marvelous attempt to break through the paradignm of scarcity. He has been too busy to reply to me, except for a quick acknowledgement and an apology of how busy he is these days.
I wonder if you have ever been in contact with him.

In any case, Bill was right to invite you here - this is where you belong at this time. Thanks so much for being you.
Peace

Wade Frazier

5th February 2011, 12:44

Hi Ernie:

No, I am not familiar with Contributionism, per se. Whistle me a few bars, and I will see if I know the tune. :)

Ah, I surfed for a minute, and I see that he is a musician! :)

There have been people who have understood, to one degree or another, the abundance idea, but without energy abundance to run the show, all of the “sharing” ideas are usually a form of shared austerity, as Bucky Fuller observed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#austerity

That is part of what I mean by practical abundance. Unless we have economic abundance, which is going to ride atop energy abundance, the rest of the abundance ideas probably cannot happen. Only in the disruptive technology arena, and that almost always means disruptive energy technology, are billions of dollars thrown around like confetti to keep the lid on it, and those are the nice tactics. :)

Going back to bed now. Thanks for your interest. We will see where this all goes. Right now, all I ask, and all I may ever ask, of my readers, is their awareness.

Best wishes,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth

5th February 2011, 14:38

Wade,
Here is the link to his site: http://www.adamscalendar.com/pages/movies.php
Peace

Wade Frazier

5th February 2011, 18:32

Hi Ernie:

Oh boy, I don’t have a few days to cover that territory. As I see it, all social-political systems are outgrowths of the underlying economic reality which, as you can predict I will say, is rooted in the energy situation. :) Study gorillas and chimpanzees, for instance, and you will see that their social structures evolved from their food supply and how they adapted to it. Humans, in many ways, are not much different. Our tools and resultant energy practices largely made us who we are.

As Bucky said, political systems competition is not going to solve our problems.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics

A new “ism” ain’t going to do it.

I am also highly skeptical of grand synthesis theories that come from studying cuneiform tablets, some stone structures and idiosyncratic interpretations of the latest findings in molecular biology. When I was fifteen years old, I got a book on Comet Kohoutek, and it was, after Frank Edwards’s Strange World series, my introduction to the fringe stuff. I think that I have that book in my library someplace, and it was almost the prototype of all the New Agey, Millennialism claptrap that has paraded through the pages of those magazines that we all know so well, at mystical bookstores. I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky and related controversies for about fifteen years. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that probably at least 75% of the people featured on places like Rense and Noory are, on the subject of fringe science, mistaken (including distorted findings), deluded or hucksters. That is not to say that there is no wheat there amongst all the chaff, but it is mostly chaff. The practice of science is not easy. I wrote an essay about that situation some years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

That it is mostly chaff out there does not make the establishment right, either. The only thing that I have seen that virtually all “skeptics” have in common is their dishonesty and emotional immaturity.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

The only one that I thought might be honest was about the only woman in their ranks, Susan Blackmore, but even though she seemed honest, I was not impressed with her work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#blackmore

Again, I could go on for days on how all manner of fringe scientists try to bend Brian O’s ear and get his nod to get some cred, and so on. I have dipped my oar into many fringe science areas, and my advice is to be very wary. It is easy to disappear into many “fringe science” rabbit holes that, in the end, don’t really mean anything.

Again, the stuff that my pal was shown:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#underground

operates under principles that make today’s physics texts look like cave drawings. However, there is also a mountain of chaff in the fringe world.

Be careful,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth

6th February 2011, 03:37

Hi Wade,
Okay, now I am just plain angry and ethically outraged after reading your recent links. Cures for cancer? Microscopes in the 1930s more powerful than today's? Unknown pioneer's of medicine?
What the f***! How can I use my faculties of discernment if such intrinsically important information is withheld from me? I've always known information is sanctioned and history altered by the establishment. And I understood for a long time that any philosophies I might try and develop to guide my understanding can only be tentative as a result of not being sure of what I know and what is true. But this? This is almost too much to bear. I feel like a babe in the woods again. And in my circles, I am the disseminator of truth unknown to others...
Now I am really beginning to understand your dilemma!
And I am beginning to understand the vital importance of this forum if we are to have any chance of survival in a world that I would want to live in or leave for my children.
And so far I have only read your first link!
Thanks Wade
Keep up the dialogue :confused:

Wade Frazier

6th February 2011, 09:00

Ernie, I am so sorry that this angers you. I feel your pain, believe me, but I am also glad that I am reaching you. The price that making that site extracted from me, and what it took from those around me, etc., was immense. A part of me will never recover from the experience.

But, there really is good news, in the end, I think. There is a paradigm that encompasses all of that bad news and allows us to see a way out. That way is love. You are seeing how various members of our noble species have decided to survive and thrive in this world. The dark path is dark indeed.

I will tell you a story or two. Writing talent runs in my family, with one grandfather being an internationally-known poet, but he also inflicted harm on family members via his poison pen. He was not my only ancestor to use his ability in that way, and, to a degree, it became part of my inheritance to try healing that family karma. I began my writing “career” with little experience. When I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, and was radicalized, it was not a pretty exit. I wrote some pretty harsh things to some around me, and I got it back tenfold, too. In the early 1990s, I spent all of my spare time immersed in the material that ultimately became my site as it exists today. I wrote, as a kind of therapy, for years, trying to make sense of my journey. Some writings from those times survive on my site today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mdaq.htm

Most did not, however, but the themes are the same. Partly due to my family going “health nut” in 1970 as my father tried to save his life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

and partly because I worked for a medical lab in 1988-1990 that was on the receiving end of a snuff attempt not much different than what I lived through with Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

as I began digesting the alternative media in 1990:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

I also immersed myself in alternative medicine and was introduced to Rife’s work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

and Gaston Naessens’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

It initially blew me away, too, that microscopes that saw and can see (Naessens is still at it) life processes at magnifications considered “impossible” today are completely ignored by organized medicine, microscopes that are older than I am. It is even worse than that. You can find, on the Internet, “investigations” of Naessens’s and Rife’s discoveries by medical racket personnel, and while they disparage their targets, they are somehow able to ignore the “impossible” resolution of the microscopes. It is as if the scientific establishment decided to debunk the Wright brothers in 1906 (which they actually did, by the way http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright :) ), calling them hoaxers, without ever hinting that those “hoaxers” alleged that their contraption could fly. It is more than mind-boggling. Way too many people have sold their souls for a paycheck.

By about 1991, it became evident that the same dynamics that I saw in the energy field existed in Western “medicine.” They both are huge rackets, as the gangsters rake it in on several levels. I truly believe that some at the tippy-top of that food chain actually enjoy all the death and suffering that they inflict on humanity and the planet with their activities, such are the dark path’s pleasures:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

For me, that those folks existed was not the most painful part, but that the masses mindlessly acquiesce to the program:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings

and the people doing most of the dirty work are just average folks, kind of like the Capos and guards at Auschwitz. In Ventura, an “investigator” from the DA’s department admitted that he did not care how evil his actions were, as long as he was well paid to perform them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

Here is another telling anecdote that I did not put on my site. That investigator assumed the dirty work duties as Mr. Deputy hid in his house, most likely while faking being ill, as a way to stall the misconduct hearings and drain our defense funds. When the Seattle operation was destroyed in 1986, I helped move a huge truckload of Mr. Inventor’s heat storage technology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#inventor

to Mr. Engineer’s barn in Ellensburg, just before Dennis’s company was stolen. That is a far longer story than I can tell today, but the Seattle catastrophe put Mr. Inventor in the rocking chair. He was 63 when that happened, and I am pretty sure that he never recovered his equipment from that barn. In 1990, he still had not, and a “funny” anecdote with Mr. Investigator can be told, which relates to how Naessens’s and Rife’s microscopes have been treated.

As I have written, Dennis sold the best heating system that has ever been on the world market, with a mountain of performance data supporting it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

But when Mr. Deputy and friends had him hogtied in jail, they tried to portray him as a con man with no viable technologies to sell (which was probably the only way that they could try for life in prison). I did not yet understand how they could try to make such a fraudulent case stick, but that was a big part of my awakening. :) They threatened everybody who could testify about the legitimacy of the technologies, which drove Mr. Researcher into hiding, who lived locally:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#espionage

and they then paraded “experts” onto the witness stand who had never even seen the heat pump before, or once tested a broken unit, or tried extorting money from us, and so forth. I got to see Kangaroo Court in action, with the pivotal moment being when Mr. Deputy made faces at me while I was on the witness stand.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

That led to me mortgaging my life, and then the miracle happened:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mortgage

So, it had a “happy” ending, but that is very relative, of course. I will always be picking up the pieces of my life, and those days ended up costing Mr. Professor his life:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

Going bankrupt was a minor nuisance for me compared to the other events. After Mr. Professor and I sprang Dennis from jail, the prosecution did not relent, and Mr. Investigator kept up the gutter maneuvers and made a trip to Washington State in early 1990, to dig up dirt. He showed up unannounced at Mr. Engineer’s Ellensburg home, which was a thousand miles from Ventura. During his interrogation, Mr. Investigator asked Mr. Engineer, “Isn’t it true that Dennis did not have any heat storage technology in Seattle?” Mr. Engineer replied, “Come walk with me fifty yards to my barn, and I will show you some of that heat storage technology.” Mr. Investigator, who came a thousand miles to prove that Dennis did not have any heat storage technology, decided that walking fifty yards to Mr. Engineer’s barn was too far, and declined Mr. Engineer’s offer. The “investigators” who attack/ignore the microscopes of Naessens and Rife are Mr. Investigator’s spiritual brethren. The system is full of people like Mr. Investigator. The banality of evil observation regarding Eichmann richly applies to Mr. Investigator and friends.

That is a prelude to my final anecdote this evening. My first site I put up in November 1996. It came down in early 1997 and did not reappear until 1999, as I began putting up essays that resulted from my full-time research and writing of the previous two years. In perhaps the first Internet forum that I ever joined, a cyberpal offered to make the “wine” of my site into “brandy.” I hired her and received the writing lesson of my career via my editor’s red pen. The writings in the 2002 version of my site improved so dramatically from the 1999 version that one professional writer buddy doubted that my site was really comprised of my writings.

My editor was familiar with my energy industry adventures, but it was not until about this far into my medical racket essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#justice

that she understood that the medical racket was just like the energy racket. It was an emotionally overwhelming paradigm shift for her, and all the other darkness that my site documents fit into her new paradigm, and made it easier to digest.

Once you reach your paradigm shift, the pain and anger may subside, but you will reach a new level of awareness and cannot return to where you used to be. I think that is a good thing, but becoming aware of just how deeply all of this goes is not an easy thing on the emotions, especially if you do not drink. :)

Good night,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth

6th February 2011, 10:53

I do not drink but I may have to start.
Will go through the posts...
But please continue, we need this information very badly.
Thanks Wade

write4change

6th February 2011, 10:55

Such sound advice given so directly is a blessing even though when in pain you don't want to hear it. The best thing you did for me Wade was make what happened to me perfectly normal. One of the reasons I have spent a decade primarily alone is that normal decent people cannot believe you can loose in court unless you deserve it and they cannot believe that people would knowingly destroy your life and make faces about it to your face. People really fear death, disease, and bankruptcy are contagious and there must be a direct cause and effect you had to something bad.

Something bad is not trying to produce inexpensive or more efficient energy and that is the basis of the free market right? So you are either lying or you did something wrong. I just wanted to save at risk teens through skill building camping no one would take my property and my life to prevent that. I must be lying or I must really be crazy to believe such a thing or I must have done something really bad to deserve this.

People are beginning to see all the systems are corrupt but they still don't want to admit it can happen to good individual people because.....it might be them and they don't want to think about it.

If the government has known for years this is coming and spent trillions underground and have already shown they will do nothing like Katrina. Why would they ever tell you. And you think by some strange miracle you would wind up on one of the arks by serendipity because John Cusack did?

When I saw the first pictures of 911 on the net about 8 months later, I didn't know the who or the complete how but I absolutely knew it was a planned operation and attack requiring lots of co ordination. All I had to do was look without emotion to what my eyes saw. Living in Las Vegas I saw tons of demolitions. I have been taught basic physics and some of the problems of the big bang theory is that spontaneous explosions are neither smooth, symmetrical, or even temperature. Only demolitions are. I am no genius. This is not my field but I know. Most of America knows but it is still too hard to believe because they don't want to believe.

Having been ground to the ground, I can hear the boots coming. I no longer wait around for confirmation of the majority, I get the heck out of there. Sheep will be shorn. And the shearers will believe what they are doing is right because your behavior is accepting. My explanation to me is that I was ten before I saw TV. It often feels like everyone around me has no survival instinct. It is like a relationship when the guy says he does not want to get married believe him; don't try and change his mind by servicing him for ten years. When you hear Kissenger, Rockfeller, and Brezinski believe them they just fulfilled their obligation and told you. When Cheney say so? He means you don't count nor do millions like you. Believe him.

I also like the fact that you so know who you are--I write well--most the time I use it well but I can use it like a curse. LOL Another decade and you will be beautifully polished off, all those sharp edges gone, but such a depth to the shine.

I know for sure medicine is exactly what you say it is and probably can match you story for story. The one thing you have given me as a rational thinker with a spiritual understanding all of our problems are solvable or already solved. All this angst is simple the scarcity theory applied by the powerful to make more money. All I can do is hold out my hand to the universe and say I know, I did the work, and I ask for justice.

The other thing about getting old everyone who has ever screwed me has been hit by the karmic hammer. Maybe not soon enough to save me but they don't get home free. Of that I am sure. And they never live really satisfied lives. I am not sure that some of my rich friends that I knew well were ever happy because they always lived in comparison and someone else always has more.

My pineal gland got recharged here and my spine got reinforced and I have grown more in thirty days that I thought this old bod could take.

Peace and Love --- LOL Jai

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PS: You and I, I think, are the only ones who do pages and paragraphs. LOL

Ernie Nemeth

6th February 2011, 12:31

About halfway through the posts.
While reading about the way the FDA handles non-orthodox medical therapies a sudden thought occured to me. It is way off topic but it is about this same heavy-handed approach of the PTB (powers that be).
I am an electrician living in Canada. I have been at it over thirty years and I can without ego say that I am an expert in my field. About seven years ago I decided to start a business as an electrical contractor. I got the necessary paperwork in order, advertised briefly and started business. Soon after I was contacted by my regulatory body (ESA) that I needed to obtain my Master's designation to be in business in Toronto. So I moved out of Toronto but continued working in Toronto. All the small towns around Toronto did not require such a designation (masters).
I was hounded, not threatened, but constantly warned that I could get myself in trouble this way. So, finally I broke down and took the test. I received a very poor grade. It cost me $200. Then I phoned the ESA to complain that the test was not electrical in nature but was about rules and regulations concerning worker safety and the fines for non-compliance. Their reply was, go back to school. I would not.
Three years later they made the masters designation province-wide.
One day I called for inspections on three jobs I was working on. Suddenly, they had removed my file and placed me on a public list of contractors not in compliance with the new law. Then they sent inspectors to my customers and informed them of my status and told them to hold any tools, equipment and material I may have left on site. They destroyed me in a single day! That day cost me over $35,000.
When I called to complain, at first they tried to pretend they had no idea who I was. But eventually I was told that, in order to become legal I would have to pay fines in eccess of $2000, take a course worth $600, and retake the test for masters that now would cost, I believe about $1000! Well, after destroying me I did not have those sums available. So I asked what else I could do. I was told, well, you can always go back to working for others!
I have never recovered from that. And upon principle, I will never take that test. Even if I starve, which I am close to as we speak.
And this story is just about a lowly electrician, not trying to become rich but just support his family! My business model was always to be a one-man operation with the occasional hiring of one or two helpers from time to time as needed.
I forgot how much that has festered inside of me - needed to bring it out. Hope you don't mind.
So, I have no problem believing the methods and the extraordinary lengths the PTB will go to in order to protect their interests, no matter how much suffering they impose on innocent, hard-working citizens and their dreams and ambitions. Especially when multi-millions are at stake.

write4change

6th February 2011, 13:08

This is the time to let all resentments go. In a way, that is what this washing the planet is all about. Getting rid of everything putrid. I am sorry Ernie, that you have had it so tough.

Luke

6th February 2011, 14:03

(...)
It is as if the scientific establishment decided to debunk the Wright brothers in 1906 (which they actually did, by the way http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright :) ), calling them hoaxers, without ever hinting that those “hoaxers” alleged that their contraption could fly. It is more than mind-boggling. Way too many people have sold their souls for a paycheck.
(...)

(...)
Most of America knows but it is still too hard to believe because they don't want to believe.
(...)

Wright Brothers for one, but there even more obscure people that are completely wiped-out from recorded history (like for example, Gustav Whitehead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Whitehead .. which reportedly flew his own heavier-than air in 1901)

One thing we need to understand about history: it is the set of lies agreed upon, that serve to justify now (to paraphrase Napoleon)

In order to this society being possible, there must be a feeling of being an apex of centuries of struggle.

In order to justify the slow pace we are moving in, this struggle MUST last centuries.

Yet when one really dig, one will see that the difference between 1750 and now makes about 95% of "progress".. but this is not the apex. It is but one of the peaks of the sinusoid. Grandeur of gothic cathedrals were only matched in XIX century .. and so on.

Few people know the story of Medieval Warm Period, the industry of Milan .. few appreciate the scientific lore that went into creation European Sword.
The bloodbath of "Little Ice Age" was enough to wipe out all what was attained there. We are handed myths about Cathars and so on, but they are always written by their enemies.
Same thing with the Rape of New World.

Same thing with burning of Alexandria Library .. that was just an end of long-term campaign to eradicate all "Old Faith Lore"

Problem is history has been sanitized from any traces that would damage official version of "we are the best, why try harder".
(military bases on top of Babylon, collateral damage to other sites, looted museums there, and now in Egypt: it is all happening before our eyes)

This is very important part of mental prison people live in.
We are taught to fear the history, and by that, justify now, and the future build upon that.

(...)
One day I called for inspections on three jobs I was working on. Suddenly, they had removed my file and placed me on a public list of contractors not in compliance with the new law. Then they sent inspectors to my customers and informed them of my status and told them to hold any tools, equipment and material I may have left on site. They destroyed me in a single day! That day cost me over $35,000.
(...)

This is how scarcity is manufactured.

I deal with similar entity in mu work (Architects Chamber) .. it is supposedly there to manage quality of the job.
In practice- it serves to fence off access to the "playfield".
All key positions are occupied by old time players (most of them are there from the times of old regime). They all know each other , and they know what is "good".
If you lick their boots long enough, they may even allow you to join their club... but to have any impact on their work- you must prove that you think like them.
This is self-sustaining loop. You cannot break it without destroying the structure.
And then you have studies. 5 wasted years and mental breakdown in the middle of them.
I learned to read technical drawings at the age of 7. I had drawn them at the age of 10. Painting, drawing, hours spent on the building sites with my Dad. Preparing full design documantations at age of 14.
Then I went to "Technical University", just to discover that most of the guys that supposedly were there to teach me, know less than me. Those who knew something, had their knowledge stuck somewhere in the 60's. Enough said that I wanted blown the frakkin place up till sixth semester. I managed to finish it, but any joy in "work" was gone by then. I still go through the motions to the chamber's exam.. but I know that I will never be "good" at what I do.

Joy is gone, drive is gone, you cannot really build something extraordinary in such state of mind.

Unless you purposefully gouge your "eyes" out /take blue pill, whatever. This I refuse to do.

Whole thing is not about the knowledge or progress, it is about conformity. Everything that is above lowest common denominator is mercilessly cut, and that spans any kind of endeavour. Fit in or die.
The whole system, including deforestation, poisoning of ground waters, destruction of fertile soils have this one thing in mind: make sure there is nowhere to run.

Energy too.

The whole human spirit is beaten into submission, to fit into a cog in machine not of their design.

We saw that here during old regime days at the scale unimaginable to Westerner. The grayness, drabness, people that turn animals in their souls, hard to imagine for someone that did not saw that (and I only remember the very last years of it). That is why I cringe every time I hear "equality" .. for me it means "cut down anything that is above average".
When the Wall fallen, the first thing you noticed was colours. Coloured clothing.
Problem is, that is about the only thing that really changed. Behind colourful façade you have old gears still working. Supposed "freedom fighters" taken the seats of old powers .. and decided it is actually good. So much for revolution.

There is little bit more breathing space, but roads are still full of holes, and 80% of my energy is sucked down (money = energy proxy, taxes= extortion) .. I worked in govt contracts, for 1$ worth of job done , the $4 was sucked down by bureaucratic machine on the way. With entropy on such scale, there is no way things will change. also - the hostage factor- about 40%-50% of population of every country lives from govt handouts/pay.

The system is made inside people's heads. As long as they would believe in it - nothing would happen.

The amount of people dependent on the system AND/OR using it to their advantage guarantee that nothing really would change. This is practically a self-policing labour camp. Inmates do 99% of the job.

That is why I find (almost :) ) all what Wade write so profound.
Keep up the good work!

Yoda

6th February 2011, 14:56

Corncrake

6th February 2011, 15:04

This is a wonderful thread. People are opening up and sharing their stories. This will be such a comfort and inspiration and maybe even a warning to all those out there just lurking or ingesting this material without knowing yet what quite to say. I for one feel inspired. Thank you.

Yoda

6th February 2011, 16:28

Yoda

6th February 2011, 17:32

Hi witchy:
http://www.rexresearch.com/nemes/1nemes.htm

P.S., Yeah, this is kind of off topic, but not too far. The point of my site is that this is all related, and all falls under the category of “enforcing the scarcity paradigm,” in order to control the Great Herd of humanity. That is how the Global Controllers see it. If enough of us began shedding our herd instincts, it would quickly be “game over” for them and their world domination, and they know it well, which is why people like me have Internet stalkers, etc.
Wade, I am so glad that the "Power that Were" can now witness the Avalon forum, awakening, and realize, that it is "game over".

Wade Frazier

6th February 2011, 17:40

Hi Ernie:

Your genuine reactions are highly refreshing for me. I trust where your heart is, and please hang in there. I will be here when you have more questions.

Best wishes,

Wade

Hi Jai:

That was beautiful. You see far and deeply. Thanks for being out there.

Peace and love, yourself. :)

Wade

Hi Ernie:

Well, all I will say to your adventures in contracting is that pretty much the only people receptive to my work have awoken in some way, often by simply living the honorable and just life, to then get clobbered by the system. Those, like Mr. Investigator and Mr. Skeptic:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

eagerly doing the establishment’s dirty work, like Jai said, will not have an easy karmic journey. If I may hazard a guess, you seem to fit the overgrown Boy Scout profile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

:)

Know that you are not alone, and thanks for telling your story. No, it is not off-topic, but central to my work’s message.

Best,

Wade

Hi Luke:

In one of my Wright brothers books here at home (Fred Howard’s book), the Whitehead controversy is placed in context as part of a feud that happened between the Wright brothers and the Smithsonian Institute, which had funded Langley’s failed attempts and actively tried to prevent recognition of the Wright brothers’ feat for generations (I lean toward Howard's version). According to that version, Whitehead was a failed and fanatical inventor who became useful to the Smithsonian in its war against the Wright brothers.

There is obviously still plenty of controversy over those days, more than one hundred years later. One thing is for sure: heavier-than-air flight was ignored for more than five years by the scientific establishment, and it was probably the most spectacular sight of the Industrial Revolution.

I believe it is in that 1990s documentary on Ishi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishi

that they have an account of when, one day, Ishi saw a plane flying (in about 1911). He asked if that was a person in that flying machine, and when it was confirmed, Ishi laughed, as if to say that now he had seen it all. :)

Watching pioneers battle over priority is a sad thing to witness. If the Wright brothers got a big boost from Whitehead and then spent many years actively denying it, that is not unusual, I am sad to say. But if Whitehead was used as a weapon to retroactively prevent recognition of the Wright brothers, that is also typical. I lived in Dayton in 1990-1991 (my wife attended Wright State University), and Wright Patterson Air Force base is built on Huffman Prairie, where the Wright brothers flew their early planes. There is a lot that I could write about that situation, but not today. You may know the issues that I have had with Wikipedia:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm

I am doing battle, right now, over what is happening to Brian O’s bio that I wrote there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary

Thanks for sharing your background. That provides me some more insight. Yes, the scarcity-based paradigm pervades everything! :) If there is a tougher nut to crack on earth, I do not know what it is. This is an old, old way of being, and I think that I am ready for something else, and look for allies. I think that I am finding some in this forum. :)

Best,

Wade

Hi Cornrake:

Thanks for being here.

Wade

Thanks Yoda. The more votes that a vision like that gets, the greater the chance of seeing it come to pass, maybe even in our lifetimes. :) Ah, the opera is not over quite yet, but might be soon, I hope.

Best wishes,

Wade

Yoda

6th February 2011, 18:32

Also, I don't want to sit back and let our fate be decided by what is happening at those levels. It is our world, too. Who put them in charge? I do not acknowledge their authority in these realms. However, I think that it is quite likely that our near-term fate will be determined by what happens at that level. I understand people wanting to know what is happening up there. All I know is that there is a "white" side, and they are bigger players in that pond than they used to be. But I just keep my head down and take on what I see ahead of me. It is a very mixed blessing to play at the levels where you attract the Global Controllers' attention, as I can attest from experience.

Enough said for now.

Best,

Wade[/QUOTE]
I believe that now, we can see "them" like the "Wizard of Oz", old players, hiding behind veils, and trying to scare everyone away.

Wade Frazier

6th February 2011, 18:42

Yes, they are like that, I think. While we slept, they took advantage of the situation, like a parasite does. If more people wake up, they will not be able to play their games. That is my game.

Yoda

6th February 2011, 19:07

Wade Frazier

6th February 2011, 19:14

Scott

6th February 2011, 22:42

If anyone has any Questions for Wade they would like asked on the pre-record Spectrum Radio interview today, feel free to Email me at: info@spectrumradionetwork.com and I will ask them during the show.

The show will posted in the archives section of the site around March 2nd 2011, Here: http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=181

Scott

Wade Frazier

7th February 2011, 16:45

I thank Scott and Tom for having me on. That was fun. I do not get to do that very often. I took a while to fall asleep last night, in a good way.

The question they asked, that somebody in this forum posed, was that if I had a chance to get my own underground exotic technology show, would I go? I answered something like, “Hell no!” :)

The price of admission for a show like that is playing at a level where you are risking your life, and this coward does not want to play that game again. :)

I was pretty forthcoming in that interview, more than the others that I have done. I hope that I don’t catch any spook flak for it, but we will see.

As a little aside, Tom kept making the observation that the American Empire is beginning to sink beneath the waves, with perhaps China being the new king of the hill. My reply is that it has not happened yet, but the last thing that I do is defend the American Empire:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

Gotta to work now,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth

7th February 2011, 16:46

Hi Wade,
Thanks for the kind words. I will most definitely ask more questions.
I think I am here for this reason. I have only started one thread that so far has had only one reply but many views. That's cool.
That thread is called World Peace and is part of my newest book called World Peace Manifesto.
I'd be honored if you'd take a look.
I think we may be on the same track. But I have nowhere near your qualifications. But I have lived alone with my ideas so long that I had started to think I was the only authority.
Thanks for setting me straight. I'm not so lonely anymore.
Peace

steven69

7th February 2011, 17:15

Ah, but the conundrum is that they are sucking on the body politic because they know no better. I can leave them alone, but they have not left me alone. When you are offered a billion dollars to disappear and then clobbered when you refuse it, a different perspective dawns. I have yet to see anybody on this planet resolve that conundrum. I regularly get people telling me about how the Eastern masters have it all figured out, but when I look more closely, I have my doubts. It looks like they all still need to eat. :) I can only walk my path, and others can walk theirs, but we all live on the same rock, at least for now. :)

Dear Wade,

Many heart felt thanks for participating in this forum - you posts have been an inspiration to me today (and a few others it would appear!;))

Apologies for arriving in this thread so late but I have spent all day reading every single post and dipping into your website now and then and booking marking interesting references from others such as the Seth Material. Your depth of coverage in your website is truly amazing and I will endeavour to try and do it justice over the next few days.

I will envisage and hold the Abundance vision which was beautiful:hug: and I believe that we can make it a reality. I am a builder/project manager who used to dream and sketch coastal houses mostly underwater with huge glass windows to observe the wonderful sealife in all its splendour with airlocks for scuba divers!

Nowadays I try to make whatever tiny difference I can in the corporate world but am sick and tired of all the lies, corruption and "greenwash tokenism"etc. ( I share your frustrations on insulation efforts!)

I have had enough of playing the old game and would love to take TPTB's ball away and play a new "game" in an abundance paradigm. I truly believe that a change in the energy paradigm would change everything else for the better and would prove infinitely more dramatic than any other initial attempts in the financial sphere for example but I do not want to waste my chance in any futile and naive manner.

I love the ideas of a free energy box in every house and people gainfully employed in building fleets of electric cars etc. Strangely I dreamt about driving a car with no engine very soon after joinging this forum and it was my first post tucked away in the technical corner of the forum and provided me wonderfully comforting response that I had found a great place to join. I was a scientist up to 4 months ago until I started my spiritual journey and realise that I have so much to learn but look forward to the journey with relish

It is now the early hours of the morning and I have to head off to bed but I look forward to reading more of your site tomorrow and eagerly anticipate your big essay:cool: and the fascinating exchange of ideas unfold. I am so glad that you take heart and inspiration from the genuine care and compassion from all the Avalonians in the forum and truly hope that we may in some way assist you in delivering a vision for the benefit of all on this wonderful Mother Earth.

Love to all, Steven

Wade Frazier

7th February 2011, 21:40

Hi Ernie:

To your World Peace thread,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13219-World-Peace

putting up ideals like that is good work, but as you said, how do you implement any of it? Again, that is probably the central theme of my work. One of Fuller's more trenchant observations is that all soldiers are ultimately motivated by scarcity, and until we solved the scarcity problem, we would always have wars:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

and that is, at its root, an issue of energy scarcity (he also related it directly to human sentience, saying that our energy problems were really problems of human ignorance, to which I will only say, "Amen"). As Fuller said, political systems competition will not do it. When Dennis had his Philly show in 1996, he read his "Declaration of Energy Independence," so I am very familiar with such lofty ideals formally presented. :)

A key part of my message is that those noble ideals that you think should be human birthrights (and I agree with them) I argue should be extended, to the extent possible, to all living things. How is that for living the clouds? :)

However, with free energy, wisely implemented, that can be practically implemented.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

However, that is almost entirely dependent on the level of collective, heart-centered sentience that humanity manifests. In yesterday's interview, Scott brought up a germane issue. He said that when he asks people what they would do with their lives if all their needs were met (food, clothing, shelter, transportation, etc.), the most common answer was, "I don't know." That is a key part of the conundrum. Not only is free energy and abundance unimaginable to almost everybody, few people can even imagine what they would do if there was abundance. As Fuller, said, new horizons would open, and humanity would be primarily concerned with self-realization, not survival. I made the analogy in the interview of us, as a species, ascending a few levels up Maslow's Hierarchy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

I am trying to make it all thinkable. While almost nobody can even imagine it, we are not going to be able to go there.

Hi Steven:

Thanks for chiming in. Keep your dreams alive. You may live to see them play out. If the cat gets out of the bag, however, cars will quickly become obsolete. Free energy is joined at the hip with antigravity, as one pal knows:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

I believe that if the cat got out, this world would not look like so much New Agey fantasy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I know people, besides Roads, who have glimpsed worlds like that, people who then bring back earth-shaking inventions (which are then suppressed, of course :) ).

I am glad that you are here,

Wade

Come As You Are

8th February 2011, 14:32

Kind of an off grid grid? Maybe? A cloud grid!?
Hi Wade, welcome to the forum.

I'm curious; do you believe it would be possible to make a DIY (Do It Yourself) free energy system?

My main purpose for which would be to spread plans across the internet/world for something people could build at home and slowly start removing dependence on "the grid".

Also with the intent of a possible "open-source" type of project utilizing people all over the planet participating for constant refinement and improvement.

Think the Linux of free energy :P

Wade Frazier

8th February 2011, 16:56

Hi Come As You Are:

That is a big subject, and I cover it some in my upcoming interview. Thanks for asking it. For several reasons, I doubt that approaches that try to find “unclaimed ground” have a chance. Humanity needs to reclaim the “commons” from those who have arrogated it, but if it is not done lovingly, it will not work. The open source movement has part of the equation, but this also needs a whole lot more people who understand the energy issue, how it runs our world today, how it has already run our world for all time, and can have some kind of comprehension of what kind of epoch may lie ahead of us if we had energy abundance as a daily reality. In almost every conversation I ever have, if the person gets past denial, they quickly disappear down the many rabbit holes that await, whether it is air cars, biofuels, windmills, building a free energy device in their garage, chasing after the rich and powerful, and on and on and on.

I have been at this for a long, long time, and almost everybody I have ever encountered, even in the field, is either in denial about critical aspects (aspects that if unacknowledged, become fatal pitfalls), or fixates on an aspect of it: both are fear reactions. With a loving perspective, the big picture can be grasped, the dark side can be acknowledged and redeemed, and so forth. If there were enough comprehensive thinkers who could keep their eye on the ball, maybe we have a chance. At least, that was an untried avenue that I am attempting to explore.

There is no hiding in shadows, no “getting” the “bad guys,” no denying that they exist and are vigilant, and so on. There is no playing the patent game, the capitalist game, the coercion game, the sneaky game, the protest game, the herd management game, the New Agey game, the austerity game, the fixation game, the naïveté game, and the like. It is time for the love and abundance game, or, at least, that is the one that I am trying to find playmates for. If enough of us played it, this world can look a lot like heaven on earth, and quickly. It really would not take many of us.

I have to go to work now.

Best,

Wade

Ernie Nemeth

8th February 2011, 18:26

Hi Wade,

Thanks for chiming in. Keep your dreams alive. You may live to see them play out. If the cat gets out of the bag, however, cars will quickly become obsolete. Free energy is joined at the hip with antigravity, as one pal knows

Being a generalist, I sometimes forget that what I understand as a given is not understood by those who look at the details, and vice versa. The main gist of my thread on a Constitution for World Peace is about accepting fredom for oneself and realizing that in order to do so, freedom must be extended to all. Otherwise your freedom will be threatened by those who do not have it. Which really means you are not free.

Free energy would free us all from basic needs because we, in essence, are energy - as you have explained so succinctly on your website. It is for that reason that by having available a limitless supply of energy we would free ourselves and our minds of our present limits. The bottleneck is our imaginations, limited as they are by our supply of energy.

So, I will dare to dream of a world of free energy for all and put my neck on the line (even though details are not my forte). Energy is power; whoever controls energy controls everything else. Therefore, if the people control energy they would also control everything else. I will outline what I see as the first steps in such a radical paradigm.
The first thing I see is the public utilities would become defunct in their present form. Oil and gas companies would loose thier stranglehold on us and productivity would skyrocket because these oligarchies would no longer siphon off the excess in the form of exorbitant profits from their ventures. Next, we would not need to pay property taxes because we could simply move, taking our power supply with us. This would radically alter the political frontier. Many of the laws now binding us in slavery would vanish because they simply would not apply to us any more. We would be invited to create new ways of existing in harmony with the elite and all peoples. Utter transparency would result in such a proccess because otherwise the people will just not agree and leave. But we are social beings; we need each other and want human contact. So a new philosophy would have to be invented that deals with everybody in a fair and equitable manner.
And yes, the spin=off technologies from such a free energy device might well be even more fantastic to contemplate - anti-gravity being one of them. Also, our sciences would be transformed. Here I will leave it because that is the extent of my knowledge in these areas.
Such a world would be completely different than the one we now live in. And from this point, futurists could possibly flesh out more of the ideas and details.

A key part of my message is that those noble ideals that you think should be human birthrights (and I agree with them) I argue should be extended, to the extent possible, to all living things. How is that for living the clouds?
The responsibility of humans, I believe, as stewards of this planet would be to extend their rights to cover all living things. With freedom comes responsibility - the more freedom, the more responsibility.

Well, how's that for starters?

Peace

Ba-ba-Ra

8th February 2011, 18:41

I think that if enough of us can simply imagine abundance, it may provide the critical mass to get this ball rolling forward.

Wade

Hello Wade, Our journeys have been very different, however, it seems that they have brought us to the same spot in the road for the moment.
I'm referring to your quote above. I agree wholeheartedly and believe from a very deep place it could happen - especially at this time because I also believe that the energies in the Universe are now supporting transparency and unity.

So, how to begin? ..... My personal experience has been that it's not enough to say "I believe in abundance", when the world we live in isn't reflecting that back to us. For example, it's hard to say I believe in abundance, and really believe it at a core level, when you've been struggling financially for most of your life and yet you see how the rich and famous are living. It would be difficult for people living in 3rd World countries to even wrap their minds around that when every day they are facing starvation.

I've played with this some and have found this thought works for many: "I want to get to the point where I believe and see that we all live in abundance." So, if enough of us could think this and say this daily, perhaps this could have an effect. And eventually we could take it to the next level

The other thing that is very important is to pay attention to what we say that contradicts abundance. For example: I notice it's been paraphrased on this thread: "talk about having my head in the clouds". When we say that, what we're really putting out is: I don't believe this could happen. So when we find ourselves saying things like: "The cards are stacked against us" or any of the other million things we say like that, immediately say cancel, cancel and rephrase it in a way that's believable to you, but supports the abundance thought. Such as: I know in the past the cards have been stacked against us, but I believe things are changing now." Or, in the past I use to believe my head was in the clouds to even consider this, right now, I think things are different.

Does any of this resonate with you?

Wade Frazier

8th February 2011, 22:33

Hi all:

I am in the busiest part of my work year, putting in long hours, like sixteen hour days, and working on the weekends. I am probably going to have to slow down in this forum, if for no other reason than I have to get cracking on those essays. You are all making worthy posts, but I see each post, and I think, "Well, I could spend five pages responding to that one," and in ways that my public writings have not addressed, either on my site or in forums.

In short, getting to the free energy finish line is like walking the razor's edge, and I am trying to help people see how we might get there, while also showing all the ways that people have fallen off the rails, think they are going to do it (but they have never tried, and the path they see I know is littered with martyrs), and so on, because almost everybody suggests ways that have proven to be failures so far, and very bloody failures at that.

Possessing the macro and micro view is critical. The big picture is vital, but the devil is in the details. Possessing a spiritual/mystical perspective helps, but what is most important, by far, is having one's heart in the right place.

Understanding the nuts-and-bolts of how our world operates is important, and by that, I mean how our mitochondria work (pound-for-pound, your body is giving off 10,000 times more energy than the sun is), how photosynthesis works, how energy got from the sun into your gas tank, how energy makes it possible for you to read these words, how an upright ape learned to make tools to harness more energy, and that dynamic, repeated and refined over millions of years, led to what we call humans today. Those understandings are what I hope to be teaching in the near future, or at least introducing enough of those dynamics to make it clear that it all relies on energy and that it is worth wrapping our minds around.

Knowing what can be, and comparing it to what is and what has been, is a very difficult mindset to balance. I have almost never met anybody who could, usually because it was too emotionally overwhelming for them, if they even wanted to try. So, I regularly get advice to just focus on the light and ignore the dark, scale the ramparts, sneak up on the "bad guys," and a million other responses that avoid having it all just sit in our consciousness and befriend it, and make it all ours, because in the big picture, it is. I believe that being able to hold it all, without being overwhelmed by it, and being able to keep our hearts whole in the process, just might be the most difficult feat on earth, but it also just might be the key. If enough people can do that, taking action will be the easy part. I struggle with the issue every day myself.

I am being asked why I have not responded to friendship requests. My jury is still out on that. Plenty of people are gunning for me, and some are professionals. I have lived through, unfortunately, the efforts of slick hit men as they befriend everybody before they began using their dagger. Since almost nobody in this forum uses real names, and most of the friendship requests are not by people using their real names, my jury will be out for quite some time. I have never played the social media game before, and not sure that I really can. This forum is an experiment for me, and so far, it is going fairly well.

So, with that preamble…

Hi Ernie:

Hail, fellow generalist! :)

Yes, unless it is freedom for all, it is freedom for nobody. Yes, freedom and responsibility are two sides of the same coin.

That was a brilliant little summary of the energy conundrum. Yes, I have spent long years thinking on the ramifications of free energy, the immediate winners and losers, and have been involved in situations where a Global Controller-type had to ponder what would happen to the global financial system and utility bonds if we had free energy. When you begin to realize the stakes, Dennis getting a billion dollar offer to go away is just a day at the office for the Global Controllers (actually, he was in their top-five "threats" for a while, and might still be). Yes, the world as we know it would cease to exist, and that is what scares most people who glimpse it. Heaven on earth will look nothing like what we see today. We can't get there by relying on the devils that we know to help.

The more people who can develop their own vision of what a free-energy-based world can look like, the closer we will be to having it. So yes, that is a nice start to your vision. It can be a highly worthwhile effort to just think about it.

Wade

Hi Ba-ba-Ra:

Yes, it resonates. Bringing free energy in from the realm of science fiction is part of my game. I know it is here. The opposition operates on levels almost beyond our wildest imaginations, but we are also being helped by forces that are also difficult to imagine. I try to keep one foot in front of the other, and keep them on the ground, as I walk my journey. Yes, to a starving person, talking about free energy and heaven on earth might as well be talking about life on the Pleiades. That is partly why I engage people who have Internet access, because they are probably not down at the survival level on Maslow's Hierarchy, but can try to wrap their mind around free energy and abundance in a way that does not seem too much like hunger-induced daydreaming. I have been living with the ramifications of free energy and an abundance-based economy for most of my life, and I can barely imagine what it would look like.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

Thanks for reading,

Wade

Come As You Are

8th February 2011, 23:52

Hi Wade
Forgive my naivete, at times I get so focussed and immersed in potentials that I feel like if we could harness thoughts we could generate enough free energy to power the planet!
The other day, I was walking around outside, on a humid but dusty, staticky day, with a can of fly spray in my hands. I kept getting shocks and I touched my horse on the nose and gave him one. Leading me to thought bubble immediately that maybe a system of pressurised canisters in a vacuum, could create perpetual motion and drive a turbine. Please don't laugh at me, this is probably what already drives the turbine, I don't know!? I am more of a biologist than a physical engineer, but I let my thoughts flow, because they come with definite images whose origins I can't really explain. I also feel that you never know where the next truly original idea is going to come from, who knows, maybe we are not the authors of our thoughts. Personally, I have always felt that Earth is Heaven, and that we are so good at destroying it is an affront to it's beauty and the secrets it is trying to tell us.
Thanks for your reply, I am looking forward to reading your material.

Hi Come As You Are:

That is a big subject, and I cover it some in my upcoming interview. Thanks for asking it. For several reasons, I doubt that approaches that try to find “unclaimed ground” have a chance. Humanity needs to reclaim the “commons” from those who have arrogated it, but if it is not done lovingly, it will not work. The open source movement has part of the equation, but this also needs a whole lot more people who understand the energy issue, how it runs our world today, how it has already run our world for all time, and can have some kind of comprehension of what kind of epoch may lie ahead of us if we had energy abundance as a daily reality. In almost every conversation I ever have, if the person gets past denial, they quickly disappear down the many rabbit holes that await, whether it is air cars, biofuels, windmills, building a free energy device in their garage, chasing after the rich and powerful, and on and on and on.

I have been at this for a long, long time, and almost everybody I have ever encountered, even in the field, is either in denial about critical aspects (aspects that if unacknowledged, become fatal pitfalls), or fixates on an aspect of it: both are fear reactions. With a loving perspective, the big picture can be grasped, the dark side can be acknowledged and redeemed, and so forth. If there were enough comprehensive thinkers who could keep their eye on the ball, maybe we have a chance. At least, that was an untried avenue that I am attempting to explore.

There is no hiding in shadows, no “getting” the “bad guys,” no denying that they exist and are vigilant, and so on. There is no playing the patent game, the capitalist game, the coercion game, the sneaky game, the protest game, the herd management game, the New Agey game, the austerity game, the fixation game, the naïveté game, and the like. It is time for the love and abundance game, or, at least, that is the one that I am trying to find playmates for. If enough of us played it, this world can look a lot like heaven on earth, and quickly. It really would not take many of us.

I have to go to work now.

Best,

Wade

Wade Frazier

9th February 2011, 00:21

Hi, Come As You Are.

Everybody whom I respect in these realms began their journey naively – I would say that is almost one of the key prices of admission. It is no crime. I am not sure if you are naïve, but if you are trying to burnish your credentials by that admission, then I am impressed! :)

Yes, who is thinking these thoughts? I have been challenged by otherworldly beings before, on who did I think I was, and who did I think was living my life? It can blow our minds to go far down that path.

I remember reading, long ago, some somebody asking a channel if we could live forever. The entity was some kind of council of great beings, and they said that the closest idea to hell that they knew of was if somebody spent their entire existence in physical reality, especially on Earth! :)

I get it. If we really had heaven on earth, the human lifespan would probably lengthen to a few hundred years or so, because they would not need to take an astral plane break regularly, to recover from the trauma of being here.

We may see if that one happens, if we turn the corner.

Best,

Wade

Come As You Are

9th February 2011, 01:42

Hi There Wade,

A very funny person once told me this:
"The fourth dimension, great place to visit, wouldn't want to live there."
Still makes me chuckle!
I'm lucky to live here on this beautiful, relatively stable and secure island, I lead a pretty charmed life really and I have a lot of time on my hands, that's my credentials. So love and abundance in abundance works for me!
What about the pressurised canisters in a vacuum? Does that make any sense to you?
Loving the boundless energy here.
Thanks

Wade Frazier

9th February 2011, 02:55

Hi, Come As You Are.

We spend the vast majority of our existences elsewhere. Physical reality is a classroom where lessons are learned that can be learned no place else, and nobody in Creation will say that they are easy lessons, especially on Earth, at this time.

To your idea of pressurized canisters, I answered one of these very recently; where does the energy come to pressurize it? :)

All mechanical methods have to get their energy from someplace. That is part of the way that people are brainwashed about the energy situation, with people pursuing electric cars, hydrogen-powered cars, biofuels and the like. The mechanism is not really important; where the energy comes from, is. Solar taps the energy coming from the sun, as does all life on Earth. The energy of nuclear fusion is most likely what powers stars. I am acquainted with the alternative theories, but dismissing fusion is probably a fool's errand.

Pretty much all free energy technologies that I am aware of are tapping into or through the Zero Point Field, which may pervade all of physical reality. The energy theoretically available that way is virtually unlimited, with one prominent estimate being that one cubic centimeter of space, anywhere, contains more than enough energy to power our galaxy. That is one reason why people fear free energy. I sympathize.

However, and this is something that can begin to dawn on you after many years in this field; I discovered the hard way that personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

Lack of sufficient collective personal integrity has doomed every effort that I have seen, not really a lack of technology or technical savvy. That is not a fun understanding to arrive at, and a slippery slope to a highly negative view of humanity awaits anybody who plays at the high levels. Every high level activist that I have ever met or heard of has come to their moment of disgust. I doubt that it can be avoided. However, if you stay there, you are doomed, and everybody who I know and respect found a way to overcome it. The answer is what brought them to that point in the first place: love.

Anyway, when I saw the endless failures, which on a practical level are about fear and a lack of integrity, I began to suspect that that was also, on a mystical and very real level, why we do not have free energy today. I think that the Zero Point Field's source is divine, and that we will not get to enjoy it until we can come to a sufficient level of collective integrity. Otherwise, it won't work, in very real terms. That understanding has informed my efforts for a long time, and that is why I say that Young Warriors who believe in coercion are not qualified for the job:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

Lovers, not fighters, will take us over the top. It is not only tactically more desirable, but it may be the only thing that will work. As Seth said, the means become the ends.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#idealist

The meek will inherit the world. That is not something easy to wrap our heads around, but it dawned on me many years ago that this love stuff is joined at the hip with free energy in ways that we can't really fathom:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

That is also why a Brian O, for instance, came to understand that our problems with making free energy happen are social and political, not technical. As he said in our Camelot interview, it takes many years and many kinds of experiences before the picture begins to come clear about what is really happening.

Materialists will never be able to see it. People fixated on the technical aspects won't, either. Neither will those chasing after rich benefactors, planning on taking on the "bad guys," those who are protesting, and so on. Again, it is a long, long journey to come to a place of understanding the milieu. I only know of a handful who have traveled that far along the path, and we usually come to the same general vicinity in our understanding, eventually. And we all began naïvely. I meant that part. :) I think that if we were not naïve, we would have never started our journeys, because our naïveté protected us from knowing what was ahead of us. Brian has said it publicly, and I agree; if we had any idea what we were in for when we began our journeys, we would have probably stayed at home. :)

Best,

Wade