Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism? (Discuss - sensibly)

[Didgevillage]

Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
Consequently, criticizing Israel for its massacre of innocent Palestinians is anti-Semitic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=315&v=DUPI1qE0fIY
(from 4:00 or so)

[Bubu]

Only Jews? Why not make anti Americans protection law or anti Chinese or anti Palestine. smells like rotten to the core. they are just making it very obvious indeed.

[Didgevillage]

smells like rotten to the core.

I'm with you. It's all propaganda.
Sadly, many people fall for it.

I have a number of Jewish friends who are anti-Zionist. What are they?
Anti-Semitic Jews? Ridiculous.

[TomKat]

smells like rotten to the core.
I'm with you. It's all propaganda.
Sadly, many people fall for it.
I have a number of Jewish friends who are anti-Zionist. What are they?
Anti-Semitic Jews? Ridiculous.

BTW, Palestinians are Semites (as are all Arabs).

[Didgevillage]

BTW, Palestinians are Semites (as are all Arabs).

That's right. Propaganda requires no logic.

[Rhogar]

Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.

Same old BS,They'd better come with new tricks because that one is getting old.

[TomKat]

BTW, Palestinians are Semites (as are all Arabs).
That's right. Propaganda requires no logic.

This is an emotional issue for you. Are you Arabic?

[Baby Steps]

This stuff is so rediculous however its deadly serious - imagine if criticism of Israel becomes by definition anti-semitism, and we get old social media posts dredged up and used to deduct social credits.

its coming, we need to resist. Should there be a mass campaign of organized Israel criticism, so everybody becomes equally guilty?

[Bubu]

This stuff is so rediculous however its deadly serious - imagine if criticism of Israel becomes by definition anti-semitism, and we get old social media posts dredged up and used to deduct social credits.

its coming, we need to resist. Should there be a mass campaign of organized Israel criticism, so everybody becomes equally guilty?

You are right about that. But I see it as some sort of insecurity. the zionist knows what is coming. people are waking up. They are losing on many fronts. Now Venezuela. Thus they are looking for a place to hide. behind the Semites?

[Dennis Leahy]

Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
Consequently, criticizing Israel for its massacre of innocent Palestinians is anti-Semitic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=315&v=DUPI1qE0fIY
(from 4:00 or so)
UTTERLY and completely wrong! (Title change necessary. I see what you're doing, playing off of a hotbutton phrase, but for all of those that don't bother to actually watch the video to see that it is a notion being challenged, it is counterproductive. I'd suggest a new title, adding a question mark at the end.)

"Zionism" is a political ideology, and as such, fair game for attack and derision.

Anti-Semitism is a very poor choice for a word to describe "anti-Jew", which is what the word "antisemite" really intends to indicate. Why? Well, Judaism is a religion, and anyone of any ethnicity can be Jewish. Very few Israeli citizens are actually ethnically "Semitic", but the Palestinians that they are genociding ARE Semitic!

The zionist government of israel, and the zionist movement (primarily the same cabal - both factions - that owns/controls the USA, INC.), has been muddying the water for decades, using Jews and Judaism as a human shield to hide behind as they expand their metastasis of zionism.

I am anti-zionist, and feel deep compassion for the real Semites - the Arabs in and around Palestine.

[Didgevillage]

UTTERLY and completely wrong! (Title change necessary. I see what you're doing, playing off of a hotbutton phrase, but for all of those that don't bother to actually watch the video to see that it is a notion being challenged, it is counterproductive. I'd suggest a new title, adding a question mark at the end.)

"Zionism" is a political ideology, and as such, fair game for attack and derision.

Anti-Semitism is a very poor choice for a word to describe "anti-Jew", which is what the word "antisemite" really intends to indicate. Why? Well, Judaism is a religion, and anyone of any ethnicity can be Jewish. Very few Israeli citizens are actually ethnically "Semitic", but the Palestinians that they are genociding ARE Semitic!

The zionist government of israel, and the zionist movement (primarily the same cabal - both factions - that owns/controls the USA, INC.), has been muddying the water for decades, using Jews and Judaism as a human shield to hide behind as they expand their metastasis of zionism.

I am anti-zionist, and feel deep compassion for the real Semites - the Arabs in and around Palestine.

If you have a copy of Bible, I want you to read the portion where Prophet Ezekiel talks about God and Magog.
It says the enemy of the "people" strikes from the north, kills and plunders the peaceful settlements.

Many think Russia will be culprit but they are wrong.

It's the Zionists from the north (Russia, Poland and Ukraine) who invaded the peaceful villages of Palestine.
If so, God's "people" means Palestinians.

Interestingly, the genetic descendants of old Israel are Palestinians, according to some researchers, and Ashkenazi (European) Jews are Turkic Khazars who converted to Judaism in the 9th century. Even the prophesy by Ezekiel refers to "Gog and Magog" as Turks indirectly.

I think "Gog and Magog" means "Gokturk and Mongols". (Turks are of the Mongolian race)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks

[Bubu]

I think the bible is not a good reference for anything. its been edited many times or perhaps created purposely to deceive. Who knows. The issue here is not to confuse zionism or zionist for anything. Not Jews Semites or anything. As Dennis mentioned its a political movement that aims to conquer the world. Anti zionist is not anti jew or anti semites the zionist expand the meaning and coverage to include the innocents. Of course they aim to muddy the situation and hope to escape from the confusion.

[TomKat]

Interestingly, the genetc descendants of old Israel are Palestinians, according to some researchers, and Ashkenazi (European) Jews are Turkic Khazars who converted to Judaism in the 9th century. Even the prophesy by Ezekiel refers to "Gog and Magog" as Turks indirectly.

I haven't studied it extensively, but from what I've read, the Ashkenazi = Khazars is wrong. DNA shows that Jews emigrated to eastern Europe from the Middle East and took local wives, that the Ashkenazi are European in their mitochondrial DNA, hence the blue eyes, etc. But they have semitic features as well. They didn't just convert to Judaism, they married into it. If you think about it, the idea that a bunch of Europeans got hold of a Torah and decided to convert is kind of far-fetched.

[Didgevillage]

I think the bible is not a good reference for anything. its been edited many times or perhaps created purposely to deceive.

The Bible is sometimes right. When it comes to Ezekiel, the "God" he refers to is probably space aliens who took him aboard their space ship, which in turn is a time machine.

[Didgevillage]

I haven't studied it extensively, but from what I've read, the Ashkenazi = Khazars is wrong. DNA shows that Jews emigrated to eastern Europe from the Middle East and took local wives, that the Ashkenazi are European in their mitochondrial DNA, hence the blue eyes, etc. But they have semitic features as well. They didn't just convert to Judaism, they married into it. If you think about it, the idea that a bunch of Europeans got hold of a Torah and decided to convert is kind of far-fetched.

I'm really suspicious of DNA studies, but as long as you take it with a grain of salt, it's safe.
Mitochondrial DNA can go through mutations, so the claim that all humans descended from an African female ape has been refuted.

Khazars learned German as their lingua franca, not that they spoke it from get-go. Yiddish (so-called Judeo-German) was a pidgin language learned, according to Professor Wexler (University of Tel Aviv)

The Khazars were notorious slave traders and many that were (force) converted to Judaism included Slavs and other nationalities of the Caucasus.
Today's Turkey, as an other example, was inhabited by Celts, Armenians, Greeks, etc., before the Turks infiltrated the area hundreds of years later. Yes, intermarriage certainly is a factor.

[Bubu]

I think the bible is not a good reference for anything. its been edited many times or perhaps created purposely to deceive.

The Bible is sometimes right. When it comes to Ezekiel, the "God" he refers to is probably space aliens who took him aboard their space ship, which in turn is a time machine.

The bible is correct on many occasions. Although I dont see how a, sometimes correct and sometimes wrong, can be a good reference. sort of. If you go fishing you need some goodie to hide the hook.

[Didgevillage]

Are you Arabic?

No, I'm not.
Zionism is all about killing all Arabs, then Christians and then the rest.
But many don't realize that.

[Tintin]

From Jonathan Cook (https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2018-09-06/israel-lobby-attacks-corbyn-backfire/) blog





(...)In a now familiar pattern to lobby claims, Sacks relied on the false premise that all Jews are Zionists. He conflated a religious or ethnic category with a political ideology. The Labour leader has held his ground on this occasion, pointing out that he was using the term “in the accurate political sense and not as a euphemism for Jewish people”. (...)

What follows is an abridged version of my post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104978-Al-Jazeera-s-The-Lobby-documentary-series&p=1258918&viewfull=1#post1258918) back in January that deals with this hot-button and emotive topic. An understanding of the history of the terminology and how it has been corrupted (deliberately) to take on entirely different meanings in the public psyche - perception management - is very important to be aware of.

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And Dennis is CORRECT (see his post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106964-Anti-Zionism-is-anti-Semitism&p=1290532&viewfull=1#post1290532))

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I am going to change the thread title as well, as it is unintentionally oxymoronic, and just plain wrong, beggin' your pardon. (now changed - TQ)

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When I first saw this thread appear my immediate reaction was :facepalm: - to flag it as a potential car crash due to it likely wheeling quickly out of control. But, I thought again, and, provided a mature, thoughtful, informed and intelligent discussion does take place here then it may well be a very valuable and stimulating one to keep. I've got my fingers crossed :)

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These are but a tiny clutch of many synoptic sources on the internet:

Etymology of the currently most misunderstood words/terms that are bandied around with next to no real understanding of their original and actual meanings:

Semite (from https://www.druidry.org/events-projects/mount-haemus-award/eleventh-mount-haemus-lecture) - Section 9 (in itself a mammoth work but actually really very interesting indeed)

The Eleventh Mount Haemus Lecture | Druidry & Transpersonal History - by Dr Thomas Clough Daffern

"To Druid thinkers, whether of ancient times, or modern times, the whole notion of anti-Semitism would have been a logical oxymoron: the Semite is etymologically the one who listens, the people who hear – and Phoenicians, Akkadians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs were all from this conglomeration of tribal peoples." [ my emphases - TQ ]

Jew (from http://www.wicwiki.org.uk/mediawiki/index.php/The_Etymology_of_the_Word_%22Jew%22)

When asked, "Who is Israel? - Who is a Jew?" the Israeli Government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) unhesitatingly answered:

"The term Israelite is purely Biblical. An Israeli is a citizen of Israel, regardless of religion. A Jew is a person anywhere in the world born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, who is thus identified as a member of the Jewish people and religion" (Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem; February, 1998).

The Jewish Almanac concurs: "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew." Or to call a contemporary Jew [an] "Israelite," or a "Hebrew." The first Hebrews would not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term "Palestinian," have to include Jews among their own people" (The Jewish Almanac, October, 1980, page 3, Bantam Books, Inc).

And, this: Ioudaios derived from the Aramaic jehudhai which did not refer to members of the tribe of Judah but to Judeans, the residents of the Babylonian province of Judea. The spelling of our present-day English word Jew is a transliteration of an abbreviation or slang word coined by their Babylonian conquerors for Judeans without reference to the race or religion of the captives.

Hebrew/Apiru/Habiru (from: http://www.imninalu.net/habiru.htm)

From the Papyrus Leiden, dated to the reign of Ramose II, about the year 2510 (1250 b.c.e.), the following statement is made in a letter: "Issue grain to the men of the army and to the Apiru who draw stone for the great pylon of Ramses II". Again we see Apiru in bondage in Egypt down to the time of Ramose II. They were being used as quarrymen and manual labourers.

These references to the Apiru in Egyptian documents and on monuments show their presence in Egypt, and their social importance, for more than three centuries. The same people are called elsewhere "Habiru" or "Habiri".

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Related thread: Al Jazeera's "The Lobby" documentary series (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104978-Al-Jazeera-s-The-Lobby-documentary-series)

[Didgevillage]

The Apiru in ancient Egypt were bandits, who may or may not have been the Hebrews. We don't know.
But one thing is for certain.
Hebrew is the language of Canaan which was Phoenician

The Palestinians, who are Muslims today, quietly believe they descended from old Israel.
The same goes for the Samaritans, whose community still exists in Nablus (Shechem) and Holon, south of Tel Aviv.

[TomKat]

Are you Arabic?

No, I'm not.
Zionism is all about killing all Arabs, then Christians and then the rest.
But many don't realize that.

Haven't most religions at one time or another wanted to convert or kill everyone else? But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?

I ask if you're Arab because I used to have an Israeli friend and also an Arabic-American father-in-law, both highly intelligent. Neither could be remotely rational regarding the other side, incapable of truth or fairness. Have you ever seen two domineering personalities interacting? Each projects their own ugly traits onto the other in never-ending lies and accusations. Like stubborn people accusing every else of being stubborn. A perpetual motion machine! Jews and Arabs fighting over the same land, both wanting ALL the spoils -- they deserve each other.

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings
Here in Florida last week it all happened so fast most of us thought it was fake news...it wasn't... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmbY8ai08ys&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2ua1J7VMandXY3ZY6JXWEwci7nMSpHXySSJq8GTqfJRtaWFLWyenxNGZE
Florida Votes to Overturn First Amendment
Blessings

[Pam]

Greetings
Here in Florida last week it all happened so fast most of us thought it was fake news...it wasn't... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmbY8ai08ys&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2ua1J7VMandXY3ZY6JXWEwci7nMSpHXySSJq8GTqfJRtaWFLWyenxNGZE
Florida Votes to Overturn First Amendment
Blessings

This is really terrifying to me. We always look at politicians using shooter events for gun control, but this is blatantly a first amendment violation. No one is ever going to legislate banning hate. If anything it will create more resentment to the population of people that might do these types of shootings. It will add fuel to the fire.

[Hervé]

Slapping some Henry Makow (https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/09/Gentile-Pest-Control.html) together:
"... Lenin was a Jewish racist who deliberately gave Jews especially, the most 'intellectually demanding tasks.' He admitted that 50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews."

Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class."

Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."

Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime punishable by death.

... Bolshevism... Zionism... goyim... Gentiles... Bourgeois... White "privileged" ... the tip-toe gradient slope toward some "guillotine" with the very simple Occam's razor of: "If you are not for us, then you can only be against us..." "Clank!"

[Didgevillage]

kill everyone else?
But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?


That's what the US military is for.

The State of Israel is likened to a three-story building with a basement.

Top floor is occupied by European or Ashkenazi Jews.
Second story by eastern Sefaradi Jews (Jews from Arab countries, Iran, etc.)
Ground floor by Arabs and Druze with Israeli citizenship, whose land was within 1948 partition.
Basement where the sun never shines is inhabited by Arabs in the occupied territories since 1967 (Gaza and West Bank) with no human rights whatsoever.

[Bubu]

So there seems to be a lot of opinion as to who are the zionist. And before we lost track of who they are, They are the bankers and their cohorts. They are not the innocent Israelite, Palestine, Arabs, Americans or anyone for that matter but the bankers maybe their bosses if they have but just follow the bankers and there they are.

[Bubu]

kill everyone else?
But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?


That's what the US military is for.

The State of Israel is likened to a three-story building with a basement.

Top floor is occupied by European or Ashkenazi Jews.
Second story by eastern Sefaradi Jews (Jews from Arab countries, Iran, etc.)
Ground floor by Arabs and Druze with Israeli citizenship, whose land was within 1948 partition.
Basement where the sun never shines is inhabited by Arabs in the occupied territories since 1967 (Gaza and West Bank) with no human rights whatsoever.

The bible clearly stated that "Israel is the chosen land and the Jews are the chosen people".On the old testament there are also instructions to the supposed chosen people to plunder all the cities they can find, kill all males oldies and young's, except the virgins which they are instructed to bring home" :idea:. So there you are their intentions clearly express. But then again its not the Jews as a race who are on these but those who control Israel, America and most of the world. Need I say who they are.

[Didgevillage]

Zionism is a totally artificial construct created in the 19th century by the Rothschilds.

Later on, Nazis rounded up Jews during WWII who refused to migrate to Palestine, because German nationalists and Jewish Zionists wanted a transfer of Jews from Europe to Palestine. Nationalist Germans simply wanted Jews out of Europe. Adolf Eichmann was a Jew fluent in Yiddish and negotiated settlements of these Jews with the older Jewish settlers in Palestine, and that's why Israelis kidnapped him in Argentina and promptly executed him so that the world would never know the truth.





kill everyone else?
But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?


That's what the US military is for.


The bible clearly stated that "Israel is the chosen land and the Jews are the chosen people".On the old testament there are also instructions to the supposed chosen people to plunder all the cities they can find, kill all males oldies and young's, except the virgins which they are instructed to bring home" :idea:. So there you are their intentions clearly express. But then again its not the Jews as a race who are on these but those who control Israel, America and most of the world. Need I say who they are.

In the Old Testaments, there are several deities involved and Yahweh is certainly not a friend of humanity.
The name of Baal, meaning "Lord," a traditional war god worshiped by Canaanites and Israelites, appears in the name of the Carthaginian general Hannibal (in the Punic Wars), which means "grace of Baal."

The word Punic comes from Phoenicia. Another indication that Canaanites, Israelites and Phoenicians were the same.

[Didgevillage]

"Hannibal was one of the sons of Hamilcar Barca, a Carthaginian leader. He was born in what is present day northern Tunisia, one of many Mediterranean regions colonised by the Canaanites from their homelands in Phoenicia. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal

[Praxis]

From Jonathan Cook (https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2018-09-06/israel-lobby-attacks-corbyn-backfire/) blog





(...)In a now familiar pattern to lobby claims, Sacks relied on the false premise that all Jews are Zionists. He conflated a religious or ethnic category with a political ideology. The Labour leader has held his ground on this occasion, pointing out that he was using the term “in the accurate political sense and not as a euphemism for Jewish people”. (...)

What follows is an abridged version of my post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104978-Al-Jazeera-s-The-Lobby-documentary-series&p=1258918&viewfull=1#post1258918) back in January that deals with this hot-button and emotive topic. An understanding of the history of the terminology and how it has been corrupted (deliberately) to take on entirely different meanings in the public psyche - perception management - is very important to be aware of.

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And Dennis is CORRECT (see his post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106964-Anti-Zionism-is-anti-Semitism&p=1290532&viewfull=1#post1290532))

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I am going to change the thread title as well, as it is unintentionally oxymoronic, and just plain wrong, beggin' your pardon. (now changed - TQ)

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When I first saw this thread appear my immediate reaction was :facepalm: - to flag it as a potential car crash due to it likely wheeling quickly out of control. But, I thought again, and, provided a mature, thoughtful, informed and intelligent discussion does take place here then it may well be a very valuable and stimulating one to keep. I've got my fingers crossed :)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

These are but a tiny clutch of many synoptic sources on the internet:

Etymology of the currently most misunderstood words/terms that are bandied around with next to no real understanding of their original and actual meanings:

Semite (from https://www.druidry.org/events-projects/mount-haemus-award/eleventh-mount-haemus-lecture) - Section 9 (in itself a mammoth work but actually really very interesting indeed)

The Eleventh Mount Haemus Lecture | Druidry & Transpersonal History - by Dr Thomas Clough Daffern

"To Druid thinkers, whether of ancient times, or modern times, the whole notion of anti-Semitism would have been a logical oxymoron: the Semite is etymologically the one who listens, the people who hear – and Phoenicians, Akkadians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs were all from this conglomeration of tribal peoples." [ my emphases - TQ ]

Jew (from http://www.wicwiki.org.uk/mediawiki/index.php/The_Etymology_of_the_Word_%22Jew%22)

When asked, "Who is Israel? - Who is a Jew?" the Israeli Government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) unhesitatingly answered:

"The term Israelite is purely Biblical. An Israeli is a citizen of Israel, regardless of religion. A Jew is a person anywhere in the world born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, who is thus identified as a member of the Jewish people and religion" (Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem; February, 1998).

The Jewish Almanac concurs: "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew." Or to call a contemporary Jew [an] "Israelite," or a "Hebrew." The first Hebrews would not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term "Palestinian," have to include Jews among their own people" (The Jewish Almanac, October, 1980, page 3, Bantam Books, Inc).

And, this: Ioudaios derived from the Aramaic jehudhai which did not refer to members of the tribe of Judah but to Judeans, the residents of the Babylonian province of Judea. The spelling of our present-day English word Jew is a transliteration of an abbreviation or slang word coined by their Babylonian conquerors for Judeans without reference to the race or religion of the captives.

Hebrew/Apiru/Habiru (from: http://www.imninalu.net/habiru.htm)

From the Papyrus Leiden, dated to the reign of Ramose II, about the year 2510 (1250 b.c.e.), the following statement is made in a letter: "Issue grain to the men of the army and to the Apiru who draw stone for the great pylon of Ramses II". Again we see Apiru in bondage in Egypt down to the time of Ramose II. They were being used as quarrymen and manual labourers.

These references to the Apiru in Egyptian documents and on monuments show their presence in Egypt, and their social importance, for more than three centuries. The same people are called elsewhere "Habiru" or "Habiri".

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Related thread: Al Jazeera's "The Lobby" documentary series (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104978-Al-Jazeera-s-The-Lobby-documentary-series)



I would disagree.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Semite#etymonline_v_23195

This is the site you should use for word history. This is a respected and well researched site that is what linguists use.

I have no affiliation with this site. It is just the best site there is for word history.[COLOR="red"]

[Hervé]

In the same vein as post # 23 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106964-Anti-Zionism-is-anti-Semitism--Discuss-sensibly-&p=1290700&viewfull=1#post1290700):

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Alt Skull‏ @_AltSkull (https://twitter.com/_AltSkull)


Video at: https://twitter.com/i/status/1126459117617369088


“When certain obstructionists become too irritating, label them, after suitable buildup, as fascist, Nazi or anti-Semitic, & use the prestige of antifascist & tolerance organizations to discredit them."

-Communist Party Directive 1943

They've been doing this a LONG time, folks.

5:09 AM - 9 May 2019
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𝔄𝔰𝔤𝔢𝔦𝔯𝔯 ℌ𝔞𝔫𝔰𝔰𝔬𝔫 (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr)🌲‏ @NotRealAsgeirr (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr) May 9 (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr/status/1126461124235485184)

This is what this quote is all about.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6H-PA3XsAEvh74.jpg

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Hitler didn't say it. Goebbels said it in a speech quoting from a Jewish paper where THEY were saying it. It's been attributed to the Germans for decades. THEY were only repeating it....

9:42 AM - 9 May 2019
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Of course, the same technique has been applied to the "Reds," "Commies," etc... so, yes, it's all Putin's fault, anyway!


A little more about one of the first recent forced mass migration:
ROTHSCHILDS FOLLOW BIBLICAL BLUEPRINT

At the beginning of the 19th century, the Rothschilds started campaigning to return the Jews to Israel, purchasing land there and scheming to break up the Ottoman Empire. They later bought the Suez Canal to project their power into the Middle East. Bjerknes writes:
"The ruin of the Turkish Empire and the mass murder of the Armenian Christians were one step on the long and tumultuous Jewish march toward the death of mankind. The ruin of the Russian empire was another, followed by the repeated destruction of Europe, particularly Germany in the World Wars this Jewish cult created in an attempt to artificially fulfill Messianic prophecy and force the Jews of Europe against their will to flee to Palestine." (66)
According to Bjerknes, Jewish support was the only thing lacking in the Rothschilds' plan to establish a world government in Jerusalem, with them as king:
"They could bankrupt Egypt and Turkey. They could bring Russia to ruins. They could buy Jewish ne'er-do-wells. They could even buy the Pope but the only way to force Jews in large numbers to Palestine was to put Hitler and Stalin in power and persecute Jews on a massive and unprecedented scale." (291)
... which brings us back to Albert Pike's WW III (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=811740&viewfull=1#post811740):
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

If I understood the whole bouillabaisse recipe correctly, the "plan" followed by the Zionists is taking its template from the prophecies of the Old Testament + Zohar + Talmud + kabbalah (the Ante/Anti-Christ) and force it into implementation... so that someone could be king of the world... sick! And, of course, the "New Testament" can't help but become one of those "irritating obstructionists"... because it bluntly states: "No chosen ones! You are all of the father!" If there ever was one, that's quite a cosmic slap that's still ringing across the planet.

[Hervé]

When some truth comes out of the information war... shocking:

Global persecution of Christians reaches "near-genocidal levels" (https://www.thepostmillennial.com/global-persecution-of-christians-reaches-near-genocidal-levels/)

Lucas Holtvluwer The Post Millenial (https://www.thepostmillennial.com/global-persecution-of-christians-reaches-near-genocidal-levels/)
Tue, 07 May 2019 16:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s26/521653/large/Rubble_and_Cross.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s26/521653/full/Rubble_and_Cross.jpg)

A new report (https://christianpersecutionreview.org.uk/interim-report/) on Christian persecution ordered by the UK's Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Jeremy Hunt, finds that Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world.

The review, led by the Bishop of Truro the Right Reverend Philip Mounstephen, found that one in three people suffer from religious persecution globally, with 80% of the persecuted being followers of Jesus Christ.

Hunt felt that, given the research consistently showed that Christians are the most persecuted religious group, such a study was warranted to further investigate the nature and scope of the persecution. Hunt also added (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305?fbclid=IwAR2UHoLbRIuQwV5hbFaloCM_RM6uZftZ9VQDiGd5HBzSuOvr5ZDCxzMQ-GM) that "political correctness" played a role in not confronting the issue sooner.

The report, which is not yet finalized, defines persecution as "discriminatory treatment where that treatment is accompanied by actual or perceived threats of violence or other forced coercion."

In the Middle East and North Africa (MENA), the report found that severity of Christian persecution came close to meeting the UN definition of a genocide.

The primary effect of this acute persecution has been a mass exodus of Christians from these countries. In Syria, the Christian population has gone from 1.7 million in 2011 to 450,000 in 2019. In Iraq, the number of Christians has declined dramatically from 1.5 million in 2003 to below 120,000 today.
Given the scale of persecution of Christians today, indications that it is getting worse and that its impact involves the decimation of some of the faith group's oldest and most enduring communities, the need for governments to give increasing priority and specific targeted support to this faith community is not only necessary but increasingly urgent.

-Bishop of Truro's Independent Review for the Foreign Secretary of FCO Support for Persecuted Christians - Interim Report Truro's review isn't the only group to reach these dire conclusions. In 2016, Pew Research (https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2018/29-june/news/world/christians-are-the-most-persecuted-religious-group-in-the-world-says-report) found that Christians were targeted in 144 countries, up 19 from 125 in 2015.

Christian persecution NGO Open Doors reported earlier this year (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6598209/Christians-suffered-increase-persecution-year-245-MILLION-facing-violence.html) that "approximately 245 million Christians living in the top 50 countries suffer high levels of persecution or worse," up 30 million from last year. The NGO stated that the number of countries classified as having "extreme" levels of persecution has risen from one (North Korea) to 11.

In the MENA, the Christian population has substantially declined over the past century, from 20% to less than 4% today. The report cites political failures, an increase in religious conservatism (primarily Muslim), and a rise in radical Islamic militants.

In South Asia, the report finds that persecution against Christians has grown in large part to the growth of militant nationalism in the region. Political parties in Pakistan, India, and Sri Lanka are embracing militant religious causes to increase their populist electoral base.

In 2017, Sri Lanka (majority Buddhist) experienced a rise in attacks against Christians and Muslims, with 97 attack documented throughout the year. In India, persecution has risen sharply since the right wing Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power in 2014. Attacks more than doubled from 358 in 2016 to 736 in 2017.

In Sub-Saharan Africa, despite the region being overwhelmingly Christian, persecution has increased in a number of countries on the southern edge of the Sahara desert which have formed a bit of a "fault line" where Christian and Muslim majority countries collide.

The worst persecution in the region came from the radical Islamic militant group Boko Haram in Nigeria. The groups distinct aim is to "eliminate Christianity and pave the way for the total Islamisation of the country." In 2015, U.S. intelligence reports estimated that 200,000 Christians were at risk of being killed by Boko Haram.

In Maiduguri, a city in north-east Nigeria, research from the Catholic Church (https://acnuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/PF2017-Exec-Summ-WEB-VERSION.pdf) reported that the massacres by the Islamists had "created 5,000 widows and 15,000 orphans and resulted in attacks on 200 churches and chapels, 35 presbyteries and parish centres."

In communist China, the Christian church is also increasingly under attack.
When it comes to China's own citizens, its communist ideology and nationalistic outlook leads it to suppress the Christian church in a number of ways. The Communist party in China has historically attempted to limit freedoms throughout Chinese society so as to maintain a strong grip on the country and to ensure it stays in power. In recent years President Xi has sought to control the church. As part of this, the Chinese state has provided 'active guidance' for Chinese churches to adapt to China's socialist society and legislation came into force in February 2018 which gave the state far-reaching powers to monitor and control religious organisations.

-Bishop of Truro's Independent Review for the Foreign Secretary of FCO Support for Persecuted Christians - Interim Report Persecution in China against Christians often takes place in subtle ways, with church leaders beings arrested on trumped up charges of tax fraud or embezzlement as a way to shut down their ministry.

The report's findings come after more than 250 people were killed and more than 500 wounded in attacks at hotels and churches in Sri Lanka (https://www.thepostmillennial.com/islamist-extremist-group-suspected-of-carrying-out-sri-lanka-attacks/) on Easter Sunday.


Related:


Clinton, Obama, and Boko Haram Yup, we armed them and let them run wild (https://www.sott.net/article/278845-Clinton-Obama-and-Boko-Haram-Yup-we-armed-them-and-let-them-run-wild)



Nigerian terror group Boko Haram executing increasingly sophisticated terror attacks, operations linked to Mossad and the CIA (https://www.sott.net/article/263958-Nigerian-terror-group-Boko-Haram-executing-increasingly-sophisticated-terror-attacks-operations-linked-to-Mossad-and-the-CIA)



Boko Haram: U.S AFRICOM'S latest False Flag franchise (https://www.sott.net/article/279056-Boko-Haram-US-AFRICOM-S-latest-False-Flag-franchise)



Western-backed Boko Haram and 'Patriotic' Militants Efforts to Counter China-Nigeria Relations (https://www.sott.net/article/361896-Western-backed-Boko-Haram-and-Patriotic-Militants-Efforts-to-Counter-China-Nigeria-Relations)

[A Voice from the Mountains]

𝔄𝔰𝔤𝔢𝔦𝔯𝔯 ℌ𝔞𝔫𝔰𝔰𝔬𝔫 (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr)🌲‏ @NotRealAsgeirr (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr) May 9 (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr/status/1126461124235485184)

This is what this quote is all about.


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Hitler didn't say it. Goebbels said it in a speech quoting from a Jewish paper where THEY were saying it. It's been attributed to the Germans for decades. THEY were only repeating it....

9:42 AM - 9 May 2019
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There's a page on Wikipedia quoting the exact passage from "Mein Kampf" that the "big lie" quote is paraphrased from:


But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

Hitler was talking about masses of people being fooled by Jewish media propaganda, not bragging about how big the lies he tells are, like most people seem to implicitly assume when posting these half-fake/paraphrased quote memes.

The irony of people posting these quotes without context is just about as good as this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMAp8kXWrc

[Didgevillage]

Who really wants a WWIII?

Fundamentalist Christians, because they want Jesus to return, who supposedly will return after a total destruction of the world.
Fundamentalist Judaics, because they want their messiah to come.

The Illuminati know it and, taking advantage of these naive beliefs, will cause a nuclear hell on earth for their lord Lucifer to rule the entire world.

It is easy to poo-poo and laugh at such beliefs, but belief system rules this world, whether you like it or not.
(The Illuminati have no respect for humans, regardless of Christians, Jews, Muslims or atheist materialists. Religion is nothing but their tool.)

[Maia Gabrial]

From what I understand zionism is not judaism. So it's not semitic. Therefore, not anti-semitic.
Just more garbage to confused the ignorant....

[Maia Gabrial]

Prophesy will be fulfilled. Even the Illuminati knows what's in store for the criminals and lawless....
No one should get comfortable because it's about to get worse. As if it isn't already bad, right?
We have CERN that wants to open a portal into and negative dimension and already has a pin hole open.
We have the Chinese who are building a Sun device that will burn hotter than the actual Sun. Why do they need that anyway? It'll fry everyone that close to the planet.
There are so many agendas to do away with humanity right now. Just from all that I've discovered, I'm overwhelmed....
Get much worse that all this? Heaven help us all....
When people are close to death, the words that come out of their mouths are, "Oh God!:

[Didgevillage]

I was watching a documentary on the fate of the Uighurs (Uyghurs) in western China.
China is an atheist country, created by mass-murderer Mao who was backed by the Rothschilds.
Needless to say, China is the model country for the New World Order.
(I have a theory that the Japanese invaded China in 1930s to permit the communist takeover of China. The same tactic where the US and Japan sent troops to Siberia after the Russian Revolution, so that the Russians will rally behind the Bolsheviks.)

Who writes history? The winner, of course.
Who is the winner? The Rothschilds --- so far.

[TomKat]

[QUOTE=Hervé;1290877][QUOTE]𝔄𝔰𝔤𝔢𝔦𝔯𝔯 ℌ𝔞𝔫𝔰𝔰𝔬𝔫 (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr)🌲‏ @NotRealAsgeirr (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr) May 9 (https://twitter.com/NotRealAsgeirr/status/1126461124235485184)


The Big Lie theory, also propounded by LBJ, is what's behind Russiagate.

[Pam]

Who really wants a WWIII?

Fundamentalist Christians, because they want Jesus to return, who supposedly will return after a total destruction of the world.
Fundamentalist Judaics, because they want their messiah to come.

The Illuminati know it and, taking advantage of these naive beliefs, will cause a nuclear hell on earth for their lord Lucifer to rule the entire world.

It is easy to poo-poo and laugh at such beliefs, but belief system rules this world, whether you like it or not.
(The Illuminati have no respect for humans, regardless of Christians, Jews, Muslims or atheist materialists. Religion is nothing but their tool.)

Christians and those that practice Judaic religion constitute under 34% of those who are practicing religion, according to information I found. I doubt very many of those are actually hoping to destroy the world so the messiah will return. I would think that you would have to be take the bible literally and be rather zealous to actually want to create WWIII for that purpose. At the end of the day, how many would really want to see their family members lives destroyed to expedite a prophecy?

[Hervé]

[...]
... At the end of the day, how many would really want to see their family members lives destroyed to expedite a prophecy?
It only takes one psychopath, with the wealth of the world to spare and the firm belief that everyone else is barely worth of belonging to their chattel, to bring it to fruition. There have been families of those psychopaths fostered generations after generations... or, what about those parents and families so proud of their kids sacrificing themselves for their "cause" in suicide bombings? Yep, education and culture.

[Bubu]

The Illuminati know it and, taking advantage of these naive beliefs, will cause a nuclear hell on earth for their lord Lucifer to rule the entire world.


Interesting perspective, I've seen a number of movies with the theme bringing back the dark lord from the abyss. I'm sure not less than four movies and I am not a movie buff. so maybe you are into something. Will you tell us who do you think lucifer is in real life?

[Didgevillage]

My perspective:
Lucifer is Enki and Yahweh is Enlil.
Enki rebelled against the rule of Enlil.
Enki brought knowledge to humans while Enlil is a control freak.

Neither of them is "Creator God."
"Satan" in Sumerian means "administrator" who was Enlil.
The meanings of the words changed.

[Bubu]

My perspective:
Lucifer is Enki and Yahweh is Enlil.
Enki rebelled against the rule of Enlil.
Enki brought knowledge to humans while Enlil is a control freak.

Neither of them is "Creator God."
"Satan" in Sumerian means "administrator" who was Enlil.
The meanings of the words changed.

My thoughts along the same line actually. Although I dont know that Enki is Lucifer and Enlil is Satan. So are you trying to say that the control freaks followers of enki, the bankers, are trying to bring back Lucifer from the dead? And who is the creator god from your perspective?

[Didgevillage]

Both Enki and Enlil are live and kicking. They wear different masks and appear as different gods in various religions.
But Enki is a friend of humanity. That's why he gets a bad rap in religions that worship control-freak gods.

Look at the snake in the tale of Eden.
What did the snake do? He obviously wanted to bestow wisdom upon humanity. Why should it be considered a crime and a sin?

[Pam]

Both Enki and Enlil are live and kicking. They wear different masks and appear as different gods in various religions.
But Enki is a friend of humanity. That's why he gets a bad rap in religions that worship control-freak gods.

Look at the snake in the tale of Eden.
What did the snake do? He obviously wanted to bestow wisdom upon humanity. Why should it be considered a crime and a sin?

This is really an interesting post. It really does make sense. I have no idea if it is accurate or not. We do live in a inversion, I can recognize that. Definitely something to think about.

[Bubu]

They wear different masks and appear as different gods in various religions.


Do you have any idea why they should wear mask. And are you saying that there are religions that are good. What would they be?

[Didgevillage]

If you look at old Jesus images in Africa and Asia, he was depicted as a black man and an Asian.
Europeans depicted him as blond (or thereabouts) with blue eyes.
I personally think his messages are parallel to Plato's "Republic" where he talks about reincarnation and coming near to loving Creator God.

Indians are used to worship deities with an animal head. Although Ganesha was brought to Japan as a Buddhist deity, the Japanese found it alien and you don't see his statue or painting often.

Religion can be a double-edged sword. It can be a mental/emotional strut and support for some, while it is a source of mind-control for some.

[TomKat]

Both Enki and Enlil are live and kicking. They wear different masks and appear as different gods in various religions.
But Enki is a friend of humanity. That's why he gets a bad rap in religions that worship control-freak gods.
Look at the snake in the tale of Eden.
What did the snake do? He obviously wanted to bestow wisdom upon humanity. Why should it be considered a crime and a sin?

This is a cut above filtering one's perception of the world through some scifi movie. But still it seems to me like ... fantasy.

[Didgevillage]

This is a cut above filtering one's perception of the world through some scifi movie. But still it seems to me like ... fantasy.

Right. Like Star Wars. It has a grain (or maybe big grains) of truth.

[PlasmaVortex]

I think that this thread may already exist but my idea is to use it as a post evidence of Jewish(Talmudic) subversion/Influence both good/bad on/within Occidental Civilization and what this likely means for our future as jews and non jews alike in order to fashion a consensus about solutions that can be derived from the conspiracy against us all as individuals.

[Arcturian108]

In general the world's population doesn't know who is running the world. Recently, I read it was the "Committee of 300" whose most prominent members are Italian families living in Venice, Italy. Are these families Jewish? Others believe it's the Khazarian mafia posing as Jews. Are the Jesuits Jews? I need to see some definitions here as to who qualifies as being Jewish?

[CurEus]

t "seems" there are multiple factions across the world with agendas. I am not comfortable attributing EVERYTHING to one specific group alone

Sometimes it is Jesuits that are blamed, other days it is Corrupted mystery schools in the service of Demons/Satan or of course "Aliens" or "Royals" and "Lizard People".

To me, I note that every country has "organized crime" Mafias and the like, they have recently internationalized their activities and DO work together. I suspect those with seriously Dark Agendas have done the same. At issue for me, is that this dark agenda seems ancient and possessing a relentless intellect far superior to our own. That really can only be at the root an entity that is nigh on immortal be it aliens or demons or a corrupted AI. I find it hard to accept that an organization could exist for hundreds of generations to carry out any agenda BUT....we do have institutions like the Vatican that HAS lasted thousands of years ( purportedly) so it is possible.

At issue for me is WHY do this? One would have to be a very committed sociopath to only want misery and suffering spanning the ages it is "senseless" and bluntly, it is stupid. Although some believe entities like Archons feed and thrive off of these conditions. I cannot even fathom why an AI would care or even bother, but they are would follow whatever they are programmed to do....

I do note that Israel does indeed participate in seriously twisted and deranged behaviours such as organ harvesting, it does have a "Greater Israel Plan" and their shadow agencies are implicated in everything imaginable from tech to biology to subtle multigenerational undermining of humans, nations and an entire planet. BUT isn't every other "group" actively doing the same or worse?

There may not be just one group or org ultimately behind dark agendas and indeed they could be in opposition to one another at times...we just don;t know what we don't know but patterns merge, I just don't have the brain power or enough reliable data to sort it all out and I believe THAT confusion is by design.

[grapevine]

I think that this thread may already exist but my idea is to use it as a post evidence of Jewish(Talmudic) subversion/Influence both good/bad on/within Occidental Civilization and what this likely means for our future as jews and non jews alike in order to fashion a consensus about solutions that can be derived from the conspiracy against us all as individuals.

Just to add to the list that's forming, Zionists, maybe, who don't have to be Jewish to qualify. And let's not forget the warnings of Yuri Brezmenov; the Russians have worked their magic also.

The only "group" missing is us, whose wishes are largely ignored by the ptb. Apart from what's happening in Ukraine, there's been an ongoing mental war for many years now, the continual bombardment and wearing down of mass equilibrium, such that if we can just meet our rental payments and put food on the table we feel momentary respite.

[ExomatrixTV]

The moment people injecting generalizations & conjecture, it is getting predictable boring ... seen it so many times discussing this topic ... so many "specialized" conspiracy researchers spent all their focus on one "controller" assuming they "control them all" which in most cases is actually not the case ... Even if you can prove casualty and causation in multiple complex issues of our time, you still have to face other type of people spewing generalizations with almost no nuances and thus the whole discussion often end up what the accusers of anti-Semitism warned about.

And yes, I too, have been accused of being "anti-Semitic" just because I dare to challenge what really happened between 1920 and 1940! ... And why similar patterns are happening all over again ... I will look for that Project Avalon Thread way back, I created discussing this issue.

You could change the title:

"Jewish world Domination relative to Occidental Experience"

in to:

"Ashkenazi (Fake) Jewish World Domination relative to Occidental Experience"?

Always ending highly controversial topics with a question-mark to allow ALL perceptions to be analyzed! ... Not just "one view, fits all" mentality.

Funny how some experts are 100% sure that "Jesuits control Zionism" and other experts claim: "Zionism actually controls Jesuits" ... You only have to ask: How old is Zionism? ... and what exactly did The Knights Templar's connected to the Jesuits? ... How much of the Free Masons are infiltrated by Jesuits like: Adam Weishaupt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt) ... and what about a Jesuit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Stempfle) co-authoring banned book called: "Mein Kampf" of Adolf Hitler!


Nazis and the Occult - The Nazi Temple of Doom (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113083-Nazis-and-the-Occult-The-Nazi-Temple-of-Doom)
Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect [Final Cut] Skull & Bones (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47048-Nazi-Banksters-Crimes-Ripple-Effect-Final-Cut-Skull-Bones)

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cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

Who am I really? Rant from a Conspiracy Researcher! (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52247-Who-am-I-really-Rant-from-a-Conspiracy-Researcher-)

I wrote that 13 years ago!

[ExomatrixTV]

Alien Reptilian Legacy | Reptilians Living On Earth Documentary:

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Alien Reptilian Legacy - There has been an underlying darkness controlling humanity since time began. Often described as the "missing piece in the puzzle" by David Icke, or the "Invisible Darkness" by Ellis Taylor, the Reptilians are the shadow beings in the dark, waging war upon humans from the space between dimensions. One of the most taboo subjects in the world media is the existence of the Reptilians. Researchers now reveal the presence of a supreme and nefarious inter-dimensional intelligence that has been manipulating mankind for centuries. An unprecedented expose on the Reptilians on Earth, hear riveting testimony from alien abductees and experiencers that point to a sinister agenda behind the alien presence on Earth. "Staggering evidence that Shadow People are indeed very real." - OH Krill, author of Montauk Babies. "Very scary, we are just now understanding this manipulation of the human race." - United Media Network. "Too many people are having these experiences, there's something to it." 2015. Stars: David Icke, Bill Ryan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan), Peter Maxwell Slattery, James Oates


1 Hour 25 min

The reason I share this is ... that people who accuse others of being "Antisemitic" because "Reptilians" suppose to be "code-word for Jews" lol ...

My response to that is: imagine if Reptilians is the real code word for "control them all" including Ashkenazi (Fake) Jews but also Jesuits and almost all evil on earth! ... and that Reptilians are actually real ... but that is for most people incomprehensible.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[PlasmaVortex]

I've studied the operating system of control for many years and as such i have adroit pattern recognition skills, that being said i'm not into being the biggest ego on the forum i dont know everything i am not exclusively blaming jews but i can prove using sources gleaned only from the Avalon library that we as non jews are subject to the will of jews.
Yes there are different factions by virtue of the global nature of the conspiracy, but by the very nature of power there has to one group that dominates the other groups in the pyramid because real power is unaccountable there has to be one group, otherwise what would be the point of the centralization of information/power over the last century into what we see now i.e the thousand points of light that we can see all around us all projecting the same fascmile of reality. Anyway my point here is to share source material gleaned exclusively from the impressive Avalon library to prove that the origins and genesis of this conspiracy is borne out of the inherent nature of Judaism.

[Isserley]

I agree that there must be one group that rules the world, everything points to it, but I don't believe that group is based on religious belief. It may not even be of this world/from this dimension. But I agree that most of the people at the head of the banking system from the very beginning are of Jewish origin, so in Hollywood, at the head of most organizations and corporations.. just my observation, not that there's anything wrong with that ;)

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[PlasmaVortex]

What are the computers we use if not jewish monster golems?

How a Jewish programmer from Chicago created ChatGPT

"His creation scares billions - because it is able to turn the uprising of machines from a Hollywood movie into our reality. How a Jewish programmer from Chicago created ChatGPT - the main monster of our time.
The other day, Sam Altman, the creator of the ChatGPT chat bot, visited Israel at the invitation of the country's President Yitzhak Herzog. In addition to meeting with the head of the Jewish state, he attended a conference at Tel Aviv University and visited one of the local research centers. And at the same time, it got everyone's attention. And this is understandable: people like Altman are creating the future right before our eyes.

Sam Altman has everything you need in case of a nuclear war - antibiotics and batteries, weapons and potassium iodide. And, of course, Israeli army gas masks. Sam does not consider the apocalyptic scenario to be fiction and prefers to be prepared for it. But ironically, some alarmists believe that he himself is the creator of this new apocalypse. His creation ChatGPT demonstrated the power of artificial intelligence (AI) so vividly and vividly that billions of people are excited about them, while at the same time they are a little worried that the uprising of the machines could turn from a Hollywood plot into reality."

https://fitzinfo.net/forum/topic/how-a-jewish-programmer-from-chicago-created-chatgpt/?part=1#postid-1245

[ExomatrixTV]

have a look here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59094-Lest-we-forget-jews-did-911-Info-on-the-Zionist-shill-Alex-Jones---his-protege&p=673770&viewfull=1#post673770)

[PlasmaVortex]

Thankyou john, i should of just looked for that thread, my apologies.

[ExomatrixTV]

What are the computers we use if not jewish monster golems?

How a Jewish programmer from Chicago created ChatGPT

"His creation scares billions - because it is able to turn the uprising of machines from a Hollywood movie into our reality. How a Jewish programmer from Chicago created ChatGPT - the main monster of our time.
The other day, Sam Altman, the creator of the ChatGPT chat bot, visited Israel at the invitation of the country's President Yitzhak Herzog. In addition to meeting with the head of the Jewish state, he attended a conference at Tel Aviv University and visited one of the local research centers. And at the same time, it got everyone's attention. And this is understandable: people like Altman are creating the future right before our eyes.

Sam Altman has everything you need in case of a nuclear war - antibiotics and batteries, weapons and potassium iodide. And, of course, Israeli army gas masks. Sam does not consider the apocalyptic scenario to be fiction and prefers to be prepared for it. But ironically, some alarmists believe that he himself is the creator of this new apocalypse. His creation ChatGPT demonstrated the power of artificial intelligence (AI) so vividly and vividly that billions of people are excited about them, while at the same time they are a little worried that the uprising of the machines could turn from a Hollywood plot into reality."

https://fitzinfo.net/forum/topic/how-a-jewish-programmer-from-chicago-created-chatgpt/?part=1#postid-1245


"Jewish programmer from Chicago who created ChatGPT (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120428-Jordan-Peterson-Dire-Warning-About-A.I.-Chat-GPT-Unleashed-2023-to-the-Next-Level)" may not practice his belief anymore and on top of that does he "represent" the real Judaism? ... and even so, does he really represent ALL Jews? ... Of course not ... Some claim the only real Jews are "Hebrew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews) Jews" and then you also have the JewsAgainstZionism (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Rabbi%20Dovid%20Weiss) movement!


This is what I mean with missing nuances in these kinds of discussions.
jews-against-zionism.html (https://rumble.com/v2akyok-jews-against-zionism.html)
The Real Jews Are Anti-Zionists (https://rumble.com/v2imo4g-the-real-jews-are-anti-zionists-the-jew-haters-who-see-jesuits-in-every-cor.html)

[PlasmaVortex]

You are splitting hairs, see the works of Paul eisen "Jewish power" he's Jewish himself and disregards the false dichotomy between Zionism/ Judaism. The Jewish bankers existed long before Zionism was even conceived, so that's the point of the thread.

[ExomatrixTV]

You are splitting hairs, see the works of Paul eisen "Jewish power" he's Jewish himself and disregards the false dichotomy between Zionism/ Judaism. The Jewish bankers existed long before Zionism was even conceived, so that's the point of the thread.


And do these bankers (past & present) suppose to represent all Jews?

[Matthew]

Are BLM's attitude towards "white people" justified? The internet was made by a white person. A sweeping split of polarity based on colour while holding that the whites are oppressing the others. I personally believe we are all created equal under God and I'm not the only one.

Using terms like 'white people', etc is similar to talking about jews and non-jews. I'm not suggesting there is bad-will at play, but super-general categories can skew an otherwise interesting argument.

Consider this; the force that compels us to share uncomfortable truths means we often power through such awkwardness, and share our truth anyway. However, the effect is we lose reader on the first occurrence of any sweeping generalisation like but not limited to 'white people'.

[PlasmaVortex]

:thumbsup:

[Matthew]

...provided you are as clever as you think you are...

I'm transparent but who said I think I'm clever?

[Nasu]

Blaming any one group gives great power to the other many factions who actually have the power. It distracts from the distant mountain view.

divide et impera. It’s an old ruse, but still a goodie. I would recommend rather than looking for a faith based boogie man, or woman, or group, to instead follow the money. My two cents….x…. N

[PlasmaVortex]

Okay so if the jews dont run the show why are they openly claiming that they do? DECADES AGO, but if anyone dares have the temerity to go into the jewish racial bias they are branded with the cunard of anti semitism? is it because the jesuits and the illuminati are hiding behind the jews or is it the other way around? you must decide.

Jewish leading role in the "cultural enrichment" of Europe
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Sorry dude i wasn't talking to you. its no fun when the rabbit has the gun

[PlasmaVortex]

what/who are these warring factions? the burden of proof is just as great if not greater for the claims you make, the idea of warring factions if inhibited by the uniformity of action among the conspirators, it therefore implies strong centralized leadership. that is only possible with inexhaustible wealth, the last time i checked it was only the heretical jews in charge, but the Jewish people enjoy a unique niche in the global power structures.

[PlasmaVortex]

1933: Jewry Declares War
The English edition of Mein Kampf was still in the process of printing and publication when Jewry declared war on the national Socialist regime, and started an intensive blockade against Germany.

The International Jewish Boycott Conference was assembled in Holland in the summer of 1933 under the Presidency of Mr. Samuel Untermeyer, of the U.S.A., who was elected President of the World Jewish Economic Federation formed to combat the opposition to Jews in Germany. On his return to the U.S.A., Mr. Untermeyer gave an address over Station W.A.B.C, the text of which, as printed in the New York Times of August 7th, 1933, I have before me.

Mr Untermeyer referred in the opening phrases to: "The holy war in the cause of humanity in which we are embarked"; and proceeded to develop the subject at great length, describing the Jews as the aristocrats of the world. "Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so now and here." Those Jews who did not join in he denounced, declaring: "They are traitors to their race."

In January 1934 Mr. Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism, wrote in Natcha Retch:

"The fight against Germany has been carried out for months by every Jewish community, conference, trade organisation, by every Jew in the world . . . we shall let loose a spiritual and a material war of the whole world against Germany."

This is perhaps the most confident assertion extant on the Jewish claim, set out in the Protocols of Zion, that they can bring about war. Protocol Number 7 states:

"We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by a State by war with its neighbour. If these should venture to stand collectively, by universal war."

It should be remembered here that a copy of these Protocols was filed in the British Museum in 1906.

By 1938 the Jewish war was in full swing; and already through their influence or pressure many Gentile persons and groups were being drawn into the vortex. Various members of the British Socialist Party were openly advocating joining in this cold war; and a vigorous and uncompromising clique was growing in all Parties under the leadership of Messrs. Churchill, Amery, Duff, Cooper and others. "Hitler will have no war, but he will be forced to it, not this year, but later on," screamed the Jew Emil Ludwig in the June copy of Les Aniles 1934.

On June 3rd, 1938, matters were carried a long step further by an article in the American Hebrew, the weekly organ of American Jewry. This article, which opened by showing that Hitler never deviated from his Mein Kampf doctrine, went on to threaten the direst retaliation.

"It has become patent that a combination of Britain, France and Russia will sooner or later bar the triumphant march (of Hitler) . . . Either by accident or design, a Jew has come to a position of foremost importance in each of these nations. In the hands of non- Aryans lies the fate and the very lives of millions . . . In France the Jew of prominence is Leon Blum . . . Leon Blum may yet be the Moses who will lead . . . Maxim Litvinoff, Soviet super salesman, is the Jew who sits at the right hand of Stalin, the little tin soldier of communism . . . The English Jew of prominence is Leslie Hore-Belisha, Tommy Atkins' new boss."

Later in this article we read:

"So it may come to pass that these three sons of Israel will form the combine that will send the frenzied Nazi dictator to hell. And when the smoke of battle clears . . . and the man who played the swastikaed Christus . . . is lowered into a hole in the ground . . . as the trio of non- Aryans intone a ramified requiem . . . a medley of the marseillaise, God Save the King, and the Internationale, blending with a proud and aggressive rendering of Eili Eili."

Two points in the above extract are worthy of special note. Firstly, it is taken for granted that these three Jews will not for one moment think or act as anything but Jews; and can be relied upon to guide their Gentile dupes to ruin in a plainly Jewish war; secondly, should be noted the contemptuous reference to the "swastikaed Christus," which Jewry looks forward to burying; and which reveals by its classification the Jewish hatred of Christianity.

Meantime Jewish pressure was exerted to the utmost to incite clashes between Sudeten, Czechs, Poles and Germans. By September of 1938 matters had reached a desperate pass. Mr. Chamberlain himself flew out to Munich and achieved the historic settlement with Hitler. It seemed as though the war mongers had been frustrated, and Europe saved. Rarely had such scenes and evidences of spontaneous delight and thankfulness been evoked as were witnessed throughout Britain and Europe at that triumph.

Those who knew the power of the enemy, however, knew that Mr Chamberlain's work was certain to be swiftly sabotaged. I remember remarking, on the very evening of his return from Munich, that within a week every newspaper in this country and the war mongers in Parliament, would be attacking Mr. Chamberlain for having secured peace; regardless of the fact that in so doing they were contemptuously flouting the real wishes of the people. This remark was only too true, as events proved.

Nowhere was the Jewish fury so obvious, of course, as in Moscow. I have before me a leaflet of my own designing put out in October 1938. It runs:

"Are you aware that Mr. Chamberlain was burnt in effigy in Moscow as soon as it was known that he had secured peace; Showing very clearly Who Wanted War, and who are still ceaselessly working to stir up strife all the world over."

The attempt to provoke war over Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia having failed, there remained only the detonator in the Polish Corridor, that monstrosity born of the unholy Versailles Conference, and denounced by honest men from Marshal Foch and Arthur Henderson, from that time onwards.

One feature about the Versailles Conference has been kept secret by those who possess the power to keep things from the public or to proclaim things from the house tops. It is this: All important decisions were taken by the "Big Four" — Britain, France, Italy and the U.S.A., represented respectively by Mr. Lloyd George, M. Clemenceau, Baron Sonino and President Wilson. So much is known. What is not known is that the secretary of Mr. Lloyd George was the Jew Sassoon; of M. Clemenceau the Jew Mandel Rothschild, now known as Mandel; Baron Sonino was himself half a Jew: and President Wilson had the Jew Brandeis; the interpreter was another Jew named Mantoux; and the Military Adviser yet another Jew called Kish.

It is known that Mr. Lloyd George and others were hazy about geography. Their Jewish secretaries, however, were on the contrary very much on the spot on such matters. These Jews met at 6 p.m. in the evenings; and mapped out the decisions for the following day's conference of the "Big Four."

The results were disastrous from the point of view of all decent people, who hoped for an honourable treaty, with terms which, though they might be stringent, would at least be just and thereby secure lasting peace.

Foch himself loudly denounced the treaty; declaring that it contained the certain makings of another war and deprecating in particular the provision relating to Danzig and the Corridor. Arthur Henderson and many public men joined in the denunciation; but all to no avail.

From the point of view of men planning another war, however, nothing could have been better than this treaty. All sorts of glaring injustices were ingrained in its text. In addition to the Corridor, and the position at Danzig, a bastard State was brought into being, in which Germans, Slovaks, etc., together forming a majority of the country, were put under the tyrannical control of the Czech minority, an element which had thrown in its lot with the Bolshevik Jews and fought against the Allies in 1918.

The design of this State was such geographically that it was styled, and correctly styled, a dagger pointed at the heart of Germany. It received the outlandish name of Czechoslovakia. The whole of the industrial life from the huge Skoda arsenal downwards was controlled by Jewish banking interests; while we have it on the evidence of Lord Winterton that practically all the land was mortgaged to the Jews (Hansard, October 1936). Under this Messianic domination were enslaved huge sections of populations, belonging to other nations, henceforward condemned to be held down by force until some country should grow strong enough to champion them.

This eventuality was, in my opinion, visualised and actually fostered as we know by the huge loans to Germany from international banking interests. Let it not be forgotten that while Jewish bankers were pouring money into Germany which was rebuilding the Wehrmacht on a bigger scale than ever, a colossal campaign for peace and disarmament was launched in this country. This not only succeeded in substantially disarming us; but in creating an atmosphere in which Mr. Baldwin had to admit that he dared not go to the country asking for more armaments, vital though he knew our needs in sea, air and land forces to be.

To anyone who made a study of the personalities and powers behind this so-called peace propaganda, as I did, there can be no doubt as to whence the real drive and finance emanated. To anyone appreciating the attitude of the press at that time, and realising that had this disarmament propaganda been distasteful to those who influence our publicity services, there would have blared forth a torrent of invective against our "peace ballotters"; there is additional proof that this campaign had the support of international Jewry, as had the rearmament of Germany. But why? the simple will ask.

The answer is fairly simple, if once the purpose behind the Jewish plan is understood. "Out of the last war we brought the Soviet States of Russia; out of the next war we will bring the Soviet States of Europe," had been the pronouncement at a world meeting of communist parties about 1932.

To make the next war possible, therefore, the see-saw must be balanced again; German strength built up, and British strength whittled down. Then the Europeans can fight each other to the death of one and complete exhaustion of the other. A dramatic surprise is in store for both sides. Neither is to be the real winner.

The real winner is quite a different army. This army is the one that will receive the real attention. For 25 years it will be built up under conditions of the greatest secrecy. Its leaders will not show their strength until the conflict is well under way. Not until a critical moment in the war will the European armies be permitted to guess at the existence of the huge factories beyond the Urals, or of the colossal proportions of the heavily mechanised hordes which will then commence to roll westwards over Europe under the red flag of Marxism.

In March 1939 a British guarantee to Poland was given by Mr Chamberlain on the strength of a false report to the effect that a 48-hour ultimatum had been delivered by Germany to the Poles. This report subsequently turned out to be quite untrue. The guarantee had been given, however, and the decision of peace or war was now no longer in British hands. Jewry had the ball at its feet. Can we doubt but that Poland was encouraged to ignore the German note of March which set forth eminently reasonable suggestions for a peaceful solution of the problem of the Corridor?

Month after month no reply was vouchsafed by Poland to the German note. Meanwhile, insult and outrage occurred with suspicious frequency all along the German frontier, similar to the technique to which the Jews later introduced the British in Palestine. Day after day the British public was deluged with war propaganda and misrepresentation of the situation. Finally their minds were closed against any further regard to the demands of justice or reason by a new slogan, "You cannot trust Hitler's word." With this lie the British public was finally stampeded into throwing all reason and judgement to the winds and accepting at their face value the war propaganda in the press.

This slogan was founded upon a misrepresentation of Hitler's assurance given on more than one occasion after a "putsch" such as that into Sudetenland, that he "intended to make no further demands." The misrepresentation lay in the fact that the press steadily obscured the major fact, that the "demands" to which Hitler referred were all along five fold in character; and covered those five areas taken from Germany by a dictated peace in which the population was overwhelmingly German, i.e. Sudetenland, part of Czechoslovakia, parts of Poland, the Corridor and Danzig.

As German troops occupied each successive section, it is, I believe, accurate to say that Hitler declared, that he had no additional demands to make. But here it must be clearly stated in the interests of justice that he never said that this entailed reducing the demands which he had originally very clearly delineated, and repeated on many occasions, namely, the five areas in question.

The British public was deluded by its press into supposing that when Hitler said he had no further demands, that there had never been any statement of his full demands, some of which were still unfulfilled. They were led to believe that Hitler either never had any other demands, or that he had abandoned the rest as soon as he had obtained some of them. When, therefore, the next instalment was added, the press built on this misunderstanding the fallacy that Hitler's word could not be trusted. Honest dealing needs no such trickery and deception. Such methods are only necessary to bolster up bad or unjust causes. Fortunately we have the calm and dispassionate judgement in this matter by no less a person than the late Lord Lothian, recently British Ambassador to the U.S.A. In his last speech at Chatham House on this subject he remarked:

"If the principle of self-determination had been applied in Germany's favour, as it was applied against her, it would have meant the return of Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, parts of Poland, the Polish Corridor, and Danzig to the Reich."

Here is a very different presentment of the case to the one which was foisted upon the British public in 1939; and it is the true one. Small wonder that these facts had to be withheld from the ordinary citizen.

Had the British public realised the truth, that each of these demands of Hitler's rested on a foundation of reasonable fairness, the people of this island would have ruled out any question of war; and it was war, not truth or justice, upon which international Jewry was resolved.

[blindwillow]

We need to move beyond Judaism in both a negative and a positive sense. There are no "chosen people." So the religion makes no sense (don't talk to me about circumcision or I may lose my ****). There is a history of exploitative Jewish bankers. So that feeds into anti-Semitism, unfortunately. But then there are plenty of exploitative bankers of every cultural background. I personally am finding the whole anti-Semitism thing tiresome. We need to move beyond it. Israel is committing atrocities in the name of Judaism, and it needs to stop. The fake anti-Semitism card needs to stop being played to defend an apartheid state from becoming increasingly fascistic and more like Nazi Germany with each passing year. Carl Sagan. Albert Einstein. Leonard Nimoy. These are the people I think about when I want to have a positive view of (modern) Jewish culture. Not so much the orthodox, older, more traditional Jewish stuff or the **** that's going on in Israel. That's for sure. Oh, and +972 Magazine. They have Jews and Arabs (to use the blanket categorical terms) working side-by-side for justice. Going to their site is also a good way to move beyond the messed up narrative in mainstream and conspiratorial American media.

[gini]

A religion based on superiority('the chosen people')believes it is its role to lead,and has to believe it has control over the earth and its (inferior)peoples (goyim) by Gods' will-(" God gave Man dominion over all things")-
You can intimidate & dominate others by being convinced & claiming to be the best,the boss and always havin the last word..Many fall for it and give their power & souvereignty away to their 'superiors'.If you can make the world believe you are the most powerful ("we control the money,we control hollywood,we control politics,we control the medea ,look and see who are the true Chosen Ones!") well,than you are..Dont fall for it,no human has control over the world ,its all in the Hand of the Almighty..

[ExomatrixTV]

Okay so if the jews dont run the show why are they openly claiming that they do? DECADES AGO, but if anyone dares have the temerity to go into the jewish racial bias they are branded with the cunard of anti semitism? is it because the jesuits and the illuminati are hiding behind the jews or is it the other way around? you must decide.

Jewish leading role in the "cultural enrichment" of Europe
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Sorry dude i wasn't talking to you. its no fun when the rabbit has the gun

"dude" ? ...

--o-O-o--

This Jewish lady may well believe it is completely normal and "wanted"/"desired" from her perspectives and she may also have a genuine belief it supposes to prevent "monoculturalism" like: "The Aryan Race (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)" idea ... and is proud of her "networks" achieving certain goals <<< that "proudness" is no evidence they are "all powerful" nor "omni present" ... I can think of other powerful (not Jewish) networks achieving other things too ... that does not make them "all powerful" but they may do things faster than most other topics. So it depends on how you look that things in a much wider perspective or not.


I have lived 8 years in Amsterdam 🇳🇱 and 100% experienced "multiculturalism" 24/7, produced Radio & TV and organized Multiple sold out Conferences, co-founder of Exposure & Frontier Magazine ... was also part of a multicultural Full Contact Taekwondo team winning European Championships! ... Because I lived it, I know how to see the flaws AND see the uplifting positive sides of it ... as everything is focus.

And most of these women promoting multiculturalism are not aware of the dark NWO agenda pushing for chaos & implosion of the system (all by design) including due to mass immigration policies ... To make the native people's culture eventually become a minority ... If you start to explain these things to people like this proud Jewish lady, they automatically assume you "must" have "extreme right wing" ("neo-nazi type") ideas ... thus refuse to listen >>> meanwhile have very similar behavior to what she accuses others of doing. Create a (false) narrative ... project that upon the unwanted undesired ("deplorables (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=deplorables%20clinton)"?) and claiming she has a "higher moral ground" but based upon lies & deceptions she herself refuses to investigate.

When somebody brags about certain "powers" ... that in itself is never ever "evidence" of anything ... it is just a perception of it. That perception is often colored with: desires, NLP techniques, self-hypnosis, emotional reasons, pep-talk, strong "necessary" belief-systems serving "the greater good" etc. etc.

A claim made by any talking person on this planet must never be seen as "all out" 100% correct when it is controversial ... the problem with controversial topics in general is that people tend to see what fits their beliefs, world-view or "mission" or their specialized research etc. ... I have done that too many times ;) nothing weird about it.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


Some claim the only real Jews are "Hebrew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews) Jews" and then you also have the JewsAgainstZionism (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Rabbi%20Dovid%20Weiss) movement!


jews-against-zionism.html (https://rumble.com/v2akyok-jews-against-zionism.html)
The Real Jews Are Anti-Zionists (https://rumble.com/v2imo4g-the-real-jews-are-anti-zionists-the-jew-haters-who-see-jesuits-in-every-cor.html)

[seehas]

Uncle Joe had an answer to that a longer time ago already

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[william r sanford72]

Mr. Hilter..

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[PlasmaVortex]

Above is a direct quote from a book called the nameless war. Don't shoot the messenger. i am sorry for coming across like an idiot mainly because i am one.

[Agape]

Alien Reptilian Legacy | Reptilians Living On Earth Documentary:

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Alien Reptilian Legacy - There has been an underlying darkness controlling humanity since time began. Often described as the "missing piece in the puzzle" by David Icke, or the "Invisible Darkness" by Ellis Taylor, the Reptilians are the shadow beings in the dark, waging war upon humans from the space between dimensions. One of the most taboo subjects in the world media is the existence of the Reptilians. Researchers now reveal the presence of a supreme and nefarious inter-dimensional intelligence that has been manipulating mankind for centuries. An unprecedented expose on the Reptilians on Earth, hear riveting testimony from alien abductees and experiencers that point to a sinister agenda behind the alien presence on Earth. "Staggering evidence that Shadow People are indeed very real." - OH Krill, author of Montauk Babies. "Very scary, we are just now understanding this manipulation of the human race." - United Media Network. "Too many people are having these experiences, there's something to it." 2015. Stars: David Icke, Bill Ryan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?6-Bill-Ryan), Peter Maxwell Slattery, James Oates


1 Hour 25 min

The reason I share this is ... that people who accuse others of being "Antisemitic" because "Reptilians" suppose to be "code-word for Jews" lol ...

My response to that is: imagine if Reptilians is the real code word for "control them all" including Ashkenazi (Fake) Jews but also Jesuits and almost all evil on earth! ... and that Reptilians are actually real ... but that is for most people incomprehensible.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


I think it’s not (at all) incomprehensible but depends on how deep you (have) a look.

To trained eye the reality becomes obvious through seeing.

The truth is, if some reality is too beautiful or too ugly
or “too smart” or “too damaged” , even “too strange”
many people close their eyes to it

because they were trained to perform standard task
and fit into average norms.

Our brain reports “what it expects to see”
nanoseconds before it’s hit with reality image of “presence”.

So sometimes, we are pre-cognitively choosing
“what to see”.


Living beings -humans- now carry messages of this overall information across and around the globe. It seems to work similarly as “Navaho Code”.

Even if they can not speak full truth about what they know and saw and there is no need for some to speak at all because the truth and knowing
is endangered and can not be contained by either -corrupt- linguistic program of this world with few exceptions ( I suggest Sanskrit would do the best to convey any important “words of truth”) our shared knowing grows through our presence

in its authentic form , thus we learn.

Eventually : a summa of this knowing will surpass the state of stagnation and disability to surpass the system enslaving us.
Even while no individual alone can solve the problem ( that’s mostly utopia as should be understood by mature populace ) our shared cognitive consciousness and it’s higher intelligence will eventually find the “impossible leap” when the proverbial treshold is reached ( and it may happen literarily anytime).

“There’s nothing that can be invented” that has not made its way to the www. From smart coffee makers to AI ,
why not ( but when) we don’t know but hypothetically :

[ ]



😅 have Faith 🙏🌟🙏🕊

[PlasmaVortex]

Okay so if the jews dont run the show why are they openly claiming that they do? DECADES AGO, but if anyone dares have the temerity to go into the jewish racial bias they are branded with the cunard of anti semitism? is it because the jesuits and the illuminati are hiding behind the jews or is it the other way around? you must decide.

Jewish leading role in the "cultural enrichment" of Europe
53A5AJoRxF0

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Sorry dude i wasn't talking to you. its no fun when the rabbit has the gun

"dude" ? ...

--o-O-o--

This Jewish lady may well believe it is completely normal and "wanted"/"desired" from her perspectives and she may also have a genuine belief it supposes to prevent "monoculturalism" like "The Aryan Race (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)" idea ... and is proud of her "networks" achieving certain goals <<< that "proudness" is no evidence they are "all powerful" nor "omni present" ... I can think of other powerful (not Jewish) networks achieving other things too ... that does not make them "all powerful" but they may do things faster than most other topics. So it depends on how you look that things in a much wider perspective or not.


I have lived 8 years in Amsterdam 🇳🇱 and 100% experienced "multiculturalism" 24/7, produced Radio & TV and organized Multiple sold out Conferences, co-founder of Exposure & Frontier Magazine ... was also part of a multicultural Full Contact Taekwondo team winning European Championships! ... Because I lived it, I know how to see the flaws AND see the uplifting positive sides of it ... Everything is focus.

And most of these women promoting multiculturalism are not aware of the dark NWO agenda pushing for chaos & implosion of the system (all by design) including due to mass immigration policies ... To make the native people's culture eventually become a minority ... If you start to explain these things to people like this proud Jewish lady, they automatically assume you "must" have "extreme right wing" ("neo-nazi type") ideas ... thus refuse to listen >>> meanwhile have very similar behavior to what she accuses other of doing. Create a (false) narrative ... project that upon the unwanted undesired ("deplorables (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=deplorables%20clinton)"?) and claiming she has a "higher moral ground" but based upon lies & deceptions she herself refuses to investigate.

When somebody brags about certain "powers" ... that in itself is never ever "evidence" of anything ... it is just a perception of it. That perception is often colored with: desires, NLP techniques, self-hypnosis, emotional reasons, strong "necessary" belief-systems serving "the greater good" etc. etc.

A claim made by any talking person on this planet must never be seen as "all out" 100% correct when it is controversial ... the problem with controversial topics in general is that people tend to see what fits their beliefs, world-view or "mission" or their specialized research etc. ... I have done that too many times ;) nothing weird about it.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


Some claim the only real Jews are "Hebrew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews) Jews" and then you also have the JewsAgainstZionism (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Rabbi%20Dovid%20Weiss) movement!


jews-against-zionism.html (https://rumble.com/v2akyok-jews-against-zionism.html)
The Real Jews Are Anti-Zionists (https://rumble.com/v2imo4g-the-real-jews-are-anti-zionists-the-jew-haters-who-see-jesuits-in-every-cor.html)


Thankyou for your thoughts I appreciate all feedback, I'm new here and in all honesty I made this thread by a slip of a key stroke and couldn't delete it so I tried to change the narrative, my apologies.

[ExomatrixTV]

Thankyou for your thoughts I appreciate all feedback, I'm new here and in all honesty I made this thread by a slip of a key stroke and couldn't delete it so I tried to change the narrative, my apologies.


No worries ... we are well aware that this topic is like walking in to a minefield with quicksand here and there too ...

If you share large texts, always add/provide correct clickable source links, because the source may have ulterior motives other people often overlook.

I deal with controversial issues for 33 years now and personally met all kinds of conspiracy researchers from almost all walks of life ... I learn from all of them but reassured, nobody is flawless.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

Rabbi Dovid Weiss: Zionism has created 'Rivers of Blood'

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/_/F/e/V/_FeVb.gaa.1.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/vhc2db-rabbi-dovid-weiss-zionism-has-created-rivers-of-blood.html)



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“A Jew was not created as a means for some other purpose; he himself IS the purpose, since the substance of all divine emanations was created ONLY to serve the Jews.”

– Chabad Lubavitch leader, “The Great Rebbe” Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson; Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky. (1999). Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel. Pluto Press, p.B8-62)


From the Russian-Jewish Mafiya to the messianic sect of Chabad Lubavitch. Virtually ignored in the MSM, it has been busy undermining mainstream Judaism while exerting a powerful hold on key positions of international power.

Chabad is a branch of Hasidic Judasim espousing a supremacist and authoritarian ideology ostensibly supported by Christian Zionists and Christian Evangelists alike. It has been able to gain access to presidential offices in America and Israel, along with a very close relationship to the Russian President Vladmir Putin. But Chabad Lubavitch’s greatest influence is undoubtedly in the United States. According to author Sue Fishkoff: “It’s not enough that Chabad’s man in D.C. knows the name and phone number of just about every congressman, senator and foreign ambassador in the nation’s capital — he also knows their legislative assistants, their secretaries and the people who clean their offices.” [1]

The sect originated in the 18th Century between three Slavic States – Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Chabad, is an acronym for three words in Hebrew: “Chochma, Binah and Daas,” meaning “wisdom, understanding and knowledge.” Chabad describes the movement and Lubavitch is the name of the town in Ukraine where the movement was based during the nineteenth century and now part of the Smolensk region of Russia. Lubavitchers are a branch of the Hasidic Jews who draw their beliefs from the mystical side of Judaism: the Talmud, the Zohar (both seen as the foundation to Kabbalah) and finally the Tanya (or “Hatanya”) written by the founder of the Chabad Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi, apparently in response to criticism of the new Hasidic movement for its “obscurantism and superstition.” [2] Though Chabad Lubavitch can definitely be called a sect or a cult from the way it conducts its political and doctrinal affairs, much of its teachings are drawn from mainstream Judaism.

Since the 1940s, the headquarters of the Chabad-Lubavitch have been located in Brooklyn, New York. From the 1950s -1990s the sect was led by the Seventh, or last Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Until his death in 1994, this latter “Great Rebbe,’ managed to create a Chabad presence in more than 900 cities world wide. The title of Lubavitcher “Rebbe” is handed down to successive leaders, organised on clan principles and the only movement to do so within Judaism. There is no religion where religious fanaticism is more applicable, but it is not Hassidism per se. Orthodox Judaism is made up of many different hues of Hasidic tribes all of which take exception to Chabad Lubavitch followers or conversely, are to some degree, aligned to its principles. This is where many who think critical attention to Chabadniks is also being directed to Hassidism in general which is not necessarily so. But Chabadniks are quite content to identify themselves with Hassidism and Judaism, much to the chagrin of those involved. [3]

The Jerusalem Post in October 19, 2001, gave a summary of Chabad Lubavitch as:

“a potent force: 2,600 institutions around the world, large numbers of English-speaking rabbis, control of most of Judaism in Italy as well as the chief rabbinate of Russia (its Russia budget alone is $20 million a year). It is an organization with immense world-wide financial resources . . . In fact, Chabad is a movement of monumental importance. Observant Jews are profoundly dependent on its emissaries all over the world … its rabbis dominate or are poised to dominate Jewish communities in a startling number of countries.” [4]

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Lubavitch patriarch Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson on a poster in Safed, Israel, 2007. photo: Matzeab (wikipedia)

There are still many Rabbis who believe that Schneerson is not dead and will be resurrected for a coronation as the long awaited Messiah. He is seen as a demi-God, perfect in every way and to say otherwise is not recommended. There are others within Chabad who do not share the same view, and according to one recent report, this has frequently led to “violent brawls breaking out and spilling on the streets on a regular basis leading to scores of hospitalizations and arrests.” One Jewish journalist observed in response to the deification and idolatory of Schneerson: “Chabad members have become irrecovably fixated on their dead leader. If the seemingly inexorable rise of the vocal yellow pin brigade progresses apace, the movement founded to bring rigor and intellectualism to Hasidic Judaism may well face a benighted future.” [5]

However, it seems a little more serious, as its objectives may encompass more than just the Jewish people.

Very similar to the Dominionists, the aim of the Chabadniks (or Lubavitchers) is to fulfil their destiny as they see it, by helping to mold and manipulate world events in line with Biblical “End Time” prophecies which involves the second coming of the Messiah, a prerequisite of which is a final conflagration from which those suitably pure and distinctly Jewish will be saved, while the rest of us perish. Rising out of the chaos will be a New World Jewish Order fixed in place with ultra-orthodox Jewish laws. Crazy it may sound but very much grounded in fact.

By 2007, Chabad-Lubavitch Centres had multiplied across the globe with 278 new emissaries moved out to Jewish communities in that year alone. There were 20 Chabad Houses in the states of California and Florida and 17 new campus-based centers in Europe, the Americas and the Middle East. Several centres were also recently opened in France, Mexico and Argentina. [6]

Ukrainian Jewish community leader, activist and author Baron Eduard Hodos has traced the early influence of Chabad Lubavitch. He has highlighted the period of movement leadership by the Sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe Joseph Isaac Schneerson and his run-in with Joseph Stalin, who: “… at one time had studied in Tiflis Theological Seminary and [was] versed in the issues of religion, expelled Chabad from the USSR as a fascist cult despite the fact that traditional Judaism continued to exist in Soviet territory.” [7]

9780300115314Up to the start of World War II a curious operation to spirit away the Sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe from Poland took place. He was taken from Warsaw, across Third Reich territory to neutral Holland and finally to the United States. This mysterious event occurred: “As a result of an agreement between the U.S. Department of State and the head of German military intelligence (Abwehr), Admiral Canaris Yosef Yitzchak. The operation to transport the Sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe from occupied Poland was supervised by the Colonel of Abwehr, whose father was a Jew, Ernst Bloch.” [8]

It is an intriguing tale and best told by historian Bryan Mark Rigg in his book: Rescued from the Reich: How One of Hitler’s Soldiers Saved the Lubavitcher Rebbe (2006). Rigg meticulously outlines causes that led to: “… the instigation of American Lubavitchers and some sympathetic officials in FDR’s administration, highly placed German military men—including Helmut Wohlthat, an anti-Semitic aide to Göring who felt saving the rebbe would be a good public relations move, and Maj. Ernst Bloch, who had a Jewish father—conspired to spirit the ailing rebbe from Warsaw to Riga, and then Stockholm, where he sailed for New York.” [9]

This research gives further evidence of the doctrinal influence that not only explains the Judeo-fascism present in the Chabad sect but the fallout that required a sacrifice of ordinary Jews so that their spiritual and nationalistic objectives could materialise. It seems the “Messiah” Rabbi Menachem Schneerson had philosophically and spiritually squared his conscience on the subject of the holocaust having seen it as a necessary sacrifice for a grander collective destiny. It is here that the Zionists merge with Lubavitch designs in that they were quite willing to sacrifice ordinary Jews to the Nazis in return for their State of Israel. (See Ben Hecht’s Perfidy for a detailed explanation as well as Lenni Brenner’s: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis, a synopsis of which is available at Counterpunch).

The Tanya is the mystical “Bible” of Chabad Hasidic philosophy, the ideological concepts of which were given a thorough airing via the pen of Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi, the founder of Chabad Hasidism, first published in 1797 in the thick of revolutionary and masonic resurgence. It had enormous influence on successive “Rebbes” of Chabad Lubavitch but remained highly controversial to those willing to look objectively at its contents. Eduard Hodos who has been sounding the alarm on the sect for many decades calls The Tanya “the second ‘Mein Kampf.’” *

In his book Jewish Hurricane (2007) the rabbi is unequivocal, equating the Lubavtich concepts to a form of Judeo-Nazism. He states: “According to Chabad canon, developed by Shneur Zalman, God created the world solely for the Jews; Jews possess Divine soul, the goyim (gentiles) have the soul of a lowest order – animal soul; Jews are the only ones to whom we can apply the concept of Man. The other nations of the world are compared to vomiting and filth. … Tanya is the main subject of study in Chabad schools on a par with the Torah and Talmud.” [10]

Hodos, along with many others, is convinced that a Judeo-fascism is expressing itself in virulent form through Chabad Lubavitch having effectively taken over Ukrainian and elements of Russian politics after a long process of infiltration within Judaism, eventually incorporating and merging with the Russian-Zionist mafia. The Rabbi explains that “the clearly defined goal” and long-term objective: “… was to entice and make Jewish-Russian hybrids employed in the structures of real power ardent followers of Chabad, vigorously supporting their careers and promotion. In this regard Chabad were ready to sacrifice their ideological dogmas and turn a blind eye to the lack of purity of blood. In contrast, to non-Jews the issue was simple–money [bribes].” He further mentions: “Taking into account that from the time of opening of [Russia’s] borders, the Russian society did not have a currency while members of the “Committee of 300” held substantial foreign funds which Chabad used to purchase Russian real estate. [11]

Hodos explained that during the reign of Menachem Mendel Schneerson and the period of Gorbachev’s perestroika Chabad Lubavictch was able to expand into Russia care of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster (which is known amongst top Chabadniks as the “Chernobyl miracle”) gradually insinuating itself into the “… vast majority of Jewish religious and financial structures”allowing the sect to become: “… a major force in the Jewish movement of the 20th and 21st Centuries.” [12]

In a recent interview from an online magazine Hodos opined that the power of Chabad Lubavitch cannot be overstated: “Over the past decade, the influence of Chabad cultists in the world has not only grown but also entrenched. This is the only Jewish religious sect, which, assuming the role of leader of world Jewry, climbed into world politics. Its presence greatly affected American politics. In addition, the heads of state of the former Soviet Union are listening to Chabad.” [13]

Although ostensibly opposed to Zionism theologically, they necessarily have parallel goals. Their members in the US political establishment and/or supporters past and present include: Alan Dershowitz a celebrity lawyer and academic (and well-known nemesis of Norman Finkelstein) US senators Joe Lieberman and John McCain; Sen. Carl Levin who is Chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee; one-time Homeland Security Director and civil liberties eradicator Michael Chertoff; former Bush Press Secretary Ari Fleischer; [14] Rahm Emanuel Senior Clinton/Obama advisor; Stuart Eizenstat, former Deputy Treasury Secretary; General Michael Mukasey; Paul Wolfowitz, PNAC document author and one of the architects of the Iraq War and lastly, another PNAC co-author, dual-nationality Rabbi Dov Zakheim.

The latter individual is an important presence in the Zionist fifth column of the United States. He was the appointed Undersecretary of Defence and Comptroller from 2001 to 2004 under the George W. Bush administration and famously linked to the Pentagon’s missing $2.6 trillion announced by Donald Rumsfeld on 10th September, 2001 conveniently lost in the chaos of 9/11 the following day. And of course, the specific section of the Pentagon that was destroyed contained the year’s budgetary information, along with the accountants, book-keepers and budget analysts, many of whom died. (We’ll have much more on Zakheim’s influence in future posts). [15]

Senator John McCain, as well as paying homage to Chabad leaders and their open pockets, also has Russian Mafiya connections via his campaign manager, Rick Davis, and Ukrainian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, long since recognised by the FBI as having ties to organized Russian crime and paying US politicians for political favours. [16] It may go some way to explain why he and his erstwhile colleague Joe Liberman are so vociferously against the Russian government of Vladimir Putin, though in recent years Putin too has been walking a tightrope between the needs of Russia and the demands of Judaism and its sects. Hodos believes the struggle between the Russian Oligarchs and Putin’s government is actually a struggle between Judaism and Chabad Lubavitch. The Putin-led fight between oligarchical Jews like the late Boris Berezovsky, Vladimir Gusinsky and Mihaly Khodorkovsky was not based on anti-Semitism or political motives but the “… struggle of Chabad with Jewish capital” with Putin as: “merely a tool in the fight.” He further believes: “Putin is protected from such charges [of anti-Semitism], after which the carrier ends.” [17]

Vladimir Putin has an almost impossible struggle on his hands to balance forces of extremism emerging in Russia spear-headed by Mossad and Chabad mafia. At the same time, he must field US-NATO's bid to embroil him in a new Cold War via the destabilisation of Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin has an almost impossible struggle on his hands to balance forces of extremism emerging in Russia spear-headed by Mossad and Chabad mafia. At the same time, he must field US-NATO’s bid to embroil him in a new Cold War via the destabilisation of Ukraine. **

Chief Rabbi and head of Chabad Lubavitch in Russia is Berel Lazar who took over from the late Adolfa Szajewicza with the Kremlin intervening in to make sure Lazar won the election. In response Lazar gushed: “Never before has any Russian or Soviet leader done so much for Jews, as Vladimir Putin. In every respect it is unprecedented. In talks with me Ariel Sharon repeatedly emphasized that the Kremlin is the greatest friend of Jews and of Israel. Now, many mayors of Russian cities, provincial heads and ministers are Jewish. This became the norm …” [18] Indeed, according to a report from the Jerusalem Post Lazar is “… essentially a Kremlin appointee who has been made to neutralize the more outspoken and politically active leaders of rival Jewish organizations.” [19] As a result, the nucleus of the Putin government comprises a significant number of Hasidic Jews and followers of Chabad. In September 2005, Lazar became a member of the Public Chamber of Russia and remains a key player in mafia led politics.

This will begin to make sense when we recall Putin’s recent turnaround from being Iran’s supporter to partial detractor after meeting with Israel’s Prime Minister and Chabad devotee Benjamin Netanyahu. Though Putin said that “…in his opinion the spread of democracy in the Middle East should be allowed to go ahead without outside influence” Netanyahu described Russia and Israel as “on the same page” over the “Iran threat” with Putin adding “Jerusalem and Moscow share “friendly ties.” [20]

We will have to see if Putin remains his own man…

Netanyahu and Russian oligarch and reputed Russian Mafiya don, Arcadi Gaydamak were busy making preparations in early 2000’s to take on the helmsman ship of Israel along with Israeli fascist Avigdor Lieberman and his Yisrael Beitenu party. The latter has mafia connections and is a strong Netanyahu supporter. It is likely he will win the post of Prime-Minister very soon and with such a complex set of influences including Zionism, Chabad and the Russian Mafia all of whom are predicated on the idealism of a “Greater Israel” and the destruction of those not in alignment with such fascist principles.

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Benjamin Netanyahu

Both the Netanyahu and George W. Bush puppets with their shared values of Likud and Neo-Conservative expansionism have been frequent sycophants at Lubavitch fundraising and ritual celebrations in and around Whitehouse circles. In 2002, Netanyahu gave “an eloquent speech to some 600 friends of Chabad of the Marina at The Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel…” and after extolling the virtues of Israeli oppression of Palestinians he reminded the suited rabbis in their opulent surroundings that he was honoured to be at an event that was “dedicated to the deeds and teachings of Rabbi Menachem. M. Schneerson,” the Great Rebbe of Chabad Lubavitch supporters. [21]
Meanwhile, later in the year Bush Jr. was busy doing his part by hosting: “… a delegation of 10 leading rabbis and officials from the Lubavitch Hasidic movement at the White House…” to venerate and “…mark the 100th birthday of the late Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson..” another stalwart defender and proselytiser of the Lubavitch messianic faith while adding “…his signature to a document declaring the late Rebbe’s birthday ‘The day of education and charity.’” [22]

These displays of mutual adoration and moist-eyed reverence would all be very touching if the background to such unfettered access to political insiders was a result of genuine humanitarian concerns. Unfortunately, the reverse is true. “If the rising alliance takes power in the next election, it could push Israel toward military confrontations with Iran, Syria or Hezbollah, while extinguishing any remaining flickers of hope in Israel’s peace camp regarding the Palestinians.” [23] This is what we are facing should Netanyahu be successful.

The ignorance surrounding the presence of Chabad Lubavitch in high-level politics, its dominance within the Jewish Diaspora and the courting of Jewish/Zionist elites should be deeply disturbing to both Jew and gentile alike.

It seems everyone is being gently lowered into a simmering extremist soup …

* Edward Hodos doesn’t mince his words when he talks of Chabad leaders and their activities. From The Jewish Syndrome (2002) he states: “Chabad is now the head ‘roof’ organization which built the extensive network of countless Jewish formations and patronising their activities. Today, Chabad nests are scattered throughout the territory of the former USSR. The largest and strategically important are located in Ukraine and Russia. But, if in Russia the Chabad capital is, of course, Moscow, its capital in the Ukraine is Dnepropetrovsk – hometown of Seventh Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson. At this time, Chabad-Lubavitch movement has an unprecedented influence for a small ultra-Orthodox sect that has an impact not only on the microclimate in the countries of their ground-bases, but on global political and economic situation. The activities of the sect are very conspiratorial, at the same time hypocritically parading and showing off exceptional piety, religious tolerance and humility.

Unlike other members of Orthodox Judaism, Chabad cultists do not simply recognize Jesus, but express a vicious hatred. Chabad considers Christian Orthodoxy and its representatives its worst enemy. […] Chabad cultists actively oppose the process of assimilation of Jews and are fanatical fighters for the purity of blood. The main principle of fascist ideology of the sect is the following: Jews are above all, and Chabad is higher than the Jews.”

** For clarification on the strategy of Vladimir Putin as he deals with the “AngloZionist” attacks on Russia it may well be a case of keeping one’s enemies close so in order to contain them, as far as is possible. The Saker’s take on this can be found in his 2014 article: The Russian Response to a Double Declaration of War. Putin is fully aware that Russian-Jewish oligarchs and CIA-backed Nationalists are intent on serving The Greater Israel project for the Middle East. Russia is a long time enemy of Zionism.

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Notes

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[1] p.185; The Rebbe’s Army: Inside the World of Chabad-Lubavitch by Sue Fishkoff, April 15, 2003 | ISBN-13: 978-0805241891. Fishkoff claims that her book is not about Chabad Lubavitch’s political involvement but of the culture and the “shlichim,” the young Luvavitch couples who act as Jewish missionaries with a view to setting up “Chabad Houses.” This book is largely irrelevant regarding an understanding of the core power structure and thus acts as a propaganda buffer highlighting the truth of “acts of kindness” within the sect as if this is the driving force of the upper hierarchy of Chabad Lubavitch as a whole, which of course it is not. With any organization that is ponerized such niceities are merely incidental to the cause.
[2] ‘The Lubavitcher Rebbe as a god’ By Saul Sadka, Haaretz, February 11, 2007.
[3] Jewish Hurricane By Eduard Hodos (2007) | http://www.antimatrix.org/Convert/Books/Eduard_Hodos/Yevreiski_Smerch/Yevreiski_Smerch.htm
[4] ‘A Messianism that Some Call Heresy’ By Jacob Neusner, The Jerusalem Post, October, 19 2001.
[5] Ibid.
[6] ‘Ranks of Chabad-Lubavitch Emissaries Grows by Close to 300’by Chabad.org Staff , wwwchabad.org, November 08, 2007.
[7] Ibid.
[8] Ibid.
[9] Rescued from the Reich: How One of Hitler’s Soldiers Saved the Lubavitcher Rebbe By Bryan Mark Rigg, Published by Yale University Press, 2006. | ISBN-10: 0300115318 | Publishers Weekly comment from amazon.com.
[10] op. cit. Hodos
[11] ‘Putin marionetką w łapach sekty Chabad Lubawicz.’ Henryk Pająk 2011,www,stopsyjonizmowi.wordpress.com/
[12] op. cit. Hodos.
[13] ‘Baron Eduard Hodos’www.tvoy-vibor.com.ua.
[14] ‘Ari Fleischer: Reform Lubavitch’, by James Besser, Baltimore Jewish Times, October 26,2001 “…Mr. Fleischer was an early leader and co-president of Chabad’s Capitol Jewish Forum, which brings together lawmakers and congressional and administration staffers for Jewish events study … In a show of bi-partisanship, both Mr. Fleischer and Mr. Lieberman lavished praise on the active Chabad effort that emphasizes the army of young staffers in government and political jobs.”
[15] This is an extraordinary story and I urge the reader to follow up on this simply because in combination with the events of 911 it is highly suspicious not least due to the magnitude of the money “missing”. In 2001 the Pentagon managed to loose the budget for the entire U.S. government. Think about that for a moment.
[16] ‘McCain aide linked to Russian billionaire’ – Connection raises questions about candidate’s opposition to Putin “Sen. John McCain has asserted his opposition to Russian President Vladimir Putin a number of times, going so far as joining with Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., in 2005 to introduce legislation calling on President Bush to suspend Russia’s membership in the Group of Eight.” by Jerome R. Corsi, WorldNetDaily.com February 19, 2008.
[17] Ibid.
[18] pp. 280-283; The Last Transport to Katyn 10 04 2010, By Henryk Pająk. Fragment Rozdziału IX książki Wydawnictwo Retro, ISBN: 83-87510-42-4 | www. stopsyjonizmowi.wordpress.com/
[19] The Jewish Syndrome By Eduard Hodos Kharkov, Ukraine, 1999-2002.
[20] ‘Putin Demands War on Iran’ Nova News, July 4 2012.
[21] ‘Netanyahu Woos LA Jews’, Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, January 18, 2002.
[22] Bush Meets Lubavitch Rabbis to Mark Rebbe’s 100th Birthday, Haaretz, March 26, 2002.
[23] ‘Israel’s rising right wing’by Gregory Levey, Oct 9, 2007, Salon.com. | ‘Netanyahu Organizing Russian Mafia Government for Israel’ Southwest Asia News Digest, From Volume 5, Issue Number 48 of EIR Online, Published Nov. 28,

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Interview: A Rabbi, a Jewish Historian, and I Explain the Israel-Palestine Conflict
by Jeremy R. Hammond
Jun 4, 2025
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2025/06/04/interview-palestine-conflict/

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Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews in London commemorate "Al Nakba" ("The Catastrophe", which is the Palestinians' name for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1948), on May 14, 2022 (Photo by Alisdare Hickson, licensed under CC BY-SA 2.0 DEED)


"On May 15, I joined Alana Newman in an X Space as a guest speaker alongside Rabbi Dovid Feldman and historian Dr. Zachary Foster. The discussion has since been published as an episode of Newman’s podcast The Speaker Salon, so you can listen here:
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Episode Description
The topic of this week's discussion is Israel Palestine. Our esteemed experts are Rabbi Dovid Feldman, Dr. Zachary Foster, and Jeremy R. Hammond. After realizing that the MAHA movement was being divided by disagreements surrounding Zionism and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, Speaker Salon host Alana Newman decided that she needed to better understand the conflict and develop a more mature understanding of middle-eastern foreign policy.

Rabbi Dovid Feldman is a respected Orthodox Jewish leader and a prominent spokesperson for Neturei Karta, an international community of devout Jews dedicated to upholding the traditional teachings of Judaism regarding the Holy Land.

Dr. Zachary Foster is a Jewish American historian and scholar specializing in the history of Palestine, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the origins of Palestinian identity. He holds a PhD in Near Eastern Studies from Princeton University and a master's degree in Arab Studies from Georgetown University. He is the founder of the educational platform and newsletter Palestine Nexus (also known as "Palestine in Your Inbox"), which provides historical context and analysis on Palestine and Israel.

Jeremy R. Hammond is an award-winning independent political analyst, author, publisher and editor of Foreign Policy Journal. He is known for exposing dangerous state propaganda and policies that manufacture consent for government actions. He is the author of “Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict” which has been praised by Noam Chomsky as "carefully documented and highly informative".

Newman explained how she had always avoided this topic but was prompted to learn more about it by my free e-book A Brief History of Palestine: From Canaan through the Mandate Era, which dispels popular Zionist myths aiming to deny the Palestinians’ own ancient historical connection to the land.

First up was Rabbi Feldman from the Orthodox Jewish organization Neturei Karta. He explained exquisitely the critical distinction between Judaism and Zionism and why the secular political movement of Zionism is anathema to Judaism, and why equating anti-Zionism with “anti-Semitism” is perverse.

Indeed, from Rabbi Feldman’s perspective, Zionism is heretical—and while I have no religious beliefs myself, as someone who has studied the Hebrew Tanakh (the Christian “Old Testament”), I completely concur with the theological underpinnings of that argument.

Indeed, this is something I have been pointing out for many years with respect to the malevolent influence of Christian Zionism.

Dr. Foster next explained how he was raised in a Zionist family but became unsettled once realizing that “the core tenet of the Zionist program was replacing Arabs with Jews”, which he felt was a project “born in sin.”

He talked about how Israel was created through ethnic cleansing and is now perpetrating genocide in Gaza, along with covering a broad range of critical background knowledge for understanding the conflict’s true nature.

During my turn in “the hot seat”, as Newman put it, I reiterated the point that Israel’s US-backed crimes against the Palestinians include war crimes and the crimes against humanity of ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and now genocide.

I explained how a ceasefire had finally been reached between Israel and Hamas earlier this year, but US President Donald Trump encouraged Israel to violate it and resume its genocide, so that’s exactly what Israel did.

How Trump Approved the Resumption of Israel’s Gaza Genocide
I was next asked about the US “war on terrorism”, so I explained how it ties into the Palestine conflict and, indeed, how it was my inquiries into 9/11 that got me started doing journalism and led to my primary focus being this land struggle in the Middle East.

Next, I explained the requirements of international humanitarian law with respect to protections of civilian persons and objects, and how Israel systematically violates this body of law with intentionally indiscriminate attacks.

Later in the discussion, I covered some of the popular myths about the conflict that I debunked in my book Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, such as the myth that the UN created Israel.

I elucidated the critical distinction between the “two-state solution” grounded in the applicability of international law to the conflict and the alternative goal of the US-led so-called “peace process”.

As well, I provided examples from the New York Times about how the mainstream media deceive the American public, serving the propaganda function of manufacturing consent of the US government’s support for Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians.

Listen to the full conversation using the audio player above."

About Jeremy R. Hammond
I am an independent journalist dedicated to exposing state propaganda designed to manufacture consent for criminal government policies. I provide deeply researched analyses on critical issues including US foreign policy, the economy, and health freedom.

I am a Research Fellow at The Libertarian Institute and author. My books include Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and The War on Informed Consent.


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