Peaceful contact to the Star People family....

[Seabreeze]

I think it is about time to talk about it...the other side of the story.....and not about the star wars and invasion propaganda of hostil beings attacking us ... which got mainly created by the human media....

Many people had a peaceful and friendly contact already.....To start this up, I think this is a very interesting documentary to watch:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7jc0R3szao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1J550YfUM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3UeiyfEXvM

For explanation....Dolores Cannon for example..made thousands of regression sessions with abductees and found out, the abductees phantasie itself created false memories....which is mainly caused by the fear of unknowing situations. In no case the abductee got actually harmed. Which came out under the hypnosis session. Dolores also said...they (the star beings) have to check on certain people regulary......

[TomKat]

What family? Are you talking about a certain alien race? Or are all aliens cuddly creatures who expend untold resources to come here and play with us?

Also, why do people mistake an encounter with a technological alien race with a spiritual experience? Seems kind of an alarm bell that the aliens allow this misconception on the part of their contactees.

[Seabreeze]

I think your remark does not really fit into this section TomKat....I am trying to avoid this kind of thinking in this thread...because there are many others around where this would be more better placed....

..the star family is several beings from space, visiting earth....

I dont know what kind of expieriences you had so far...and if you ever made a regression session, to find out what really happenend to you. Or are you getting your informations only by the media.?..I dont know...

All I know is my own ones..which been similar to what those people talk about....you might can not compare to it.....

But good you asked about the star family....I just found out almost everything which use to be around about them dissapeared from the net... Which is telling me..something is going on to block this informations.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPex0t1NbVA

[Seabreeze]

and here a reminder....what Bob Dean..had to say about this :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L9BZUxt9rQ

and about this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU2zb2psFx8

or the encounter in Zimbabwe 1994 - 64 children had....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBiMzxdc09o&list=PLcyHTZm7az-4gYa2y6ZDjO3kibyVDAYza

...listen what the girl says starting at 4:35

[andyangel1205]

Hey Whisper...thanks for starting thread. My wife and I got back from Contact in the Desert last week and were actually talking about the same subject—where are all the stories about positive contact? Admittedly, at the conference some of the speakers did touch on this, like Clifford Mahooty whom we met, James Gilliland, Mary Rodwell, Rey Hernandez, etc...all gave great talks...Mary even quoted Bob Dean in her presentation.

Not to say there are not hostile or negative beings or entities out there (as good and bad exists on our plane, so does it in others), it’s just nice to also look at the positive messages and interactions as well. Speaking from experience, the star beings my wife channels come through with wise, loving and enlightening messages.

[mojo]

Many people had a peaceful and friendly contact already

Its difficult to be objective as a researcher and yet have experiences that were so profound. As an observer though it was an important component. I could not have gone on in the many years of documentation without knowing deep that they were peaceful that they were super-intellect and with them knowing my hearts motive and because of that opened more up.

[raregem]

Thanks for this thread Whisper. I have shared with very few people about the contact I share with what I consider off worlders for lack of a better name. The Christian had an adverse reaction. The psychic was open to it. We shall see how PA reacts neg. or has an open mind.
I am grateful to be in this time and space with my friends from Pleiades and Sirius B. I am not abducted nor am I imposed upon through our time together. They are here to learn through me what it means to be human on Earth in 3d environment. We (there are 4 of them) communicate daily and learn from each other. They like animals, plants and dancing. They are loving beings that require no deep meditations for our talks freely back and forth. I am not crazy nor is my mind off. It is so. And, I thank them from my heart for their patience and giving.
There is more than meets the eye on Earth. Main message- LOVE one another.

[Apulu]

Good thread, about time perhaps... there's a heck of a lot of negativity going around at the moment, it seems, but maybe that's the norm and I haven't quite realised that...

Anyway, regardless, there's also been plenty of evidence that some of our previously well respected researchers into high strangeness have had the wool completely thrown over their eyes, and some are continuing to deceive themselves, and us... I think you, and anyone reading this, know of whom I speak, but I'll clarify if anyone wants! I'm just not going to mention who and what cos I'm a bit fed up of it all I think.... oh feck it yes I am talking about CG and DW and ALL of that...

As a firm believer in "nothing bad ever happens", I think what we can draw from all of that nonsense and parade is actually a really valuable lesson; one that I'm grateful for having had repeated to me (it was kind of hard to ignore!). A really, really, valuable lesson, IF one is willing to see it as that, and act on it. By crikey could it be ANOTHER lesson in discernment? They don't seem to let up do they...

So, my point in bringing up all of that up, I think, is to say that perhaps it's about time we took all of that fresh and renewed discernment (and perhaps even savvy!) and apply it to some things that haven't been discussed on here for quite a while (at least from my perspective, which isn't very large...)

I think one of the things that's sometimes lost when applying discernment, goes along the lines of why does any of this matter? What relevance does it have to my life, or indeed anyone else's life?

For me, the question of, or seeming actual occurrence of, positive ET contact (or indeed any ET contact), is firstly relevant to me because I find it absolutely fascinating. It's flipping fascinating! Secondly, perhaps, is the question of how does the information gleaned, through the study of said phenomena, or through actual experience of said phenomena, relate to how I operate as a human being. THIRDLY, perhaps, is the question of how does any of this relate to humanity as a whole, right now?

The second question, above, might be hard to answer, but the third, it seems, might be impossible. And I think that goes for us OR indeed THEM, even with their supposed or actual super-minds and super computers.

If ANYONE approaches me and tells me I better listen to this important message from our ET friends and we have to act now for the sake of humanity and that this is how things are and everything is about to change for the better if this information could only be known and it will allow them to come down and be our friends and help expand our technology and we won't have to work any more and it's part of the big shift into 4D or 5D and everything will be better after and we have to act now... THEY ARE IN SERIOUS DANGER OF BEING SLAPPED WITH THE NEAREST THING TO HAND.

But, having said that, there's no harm in speculating, A BIT, I think. That's what we do anyway, all the time, I suppose, and I suppose we have to.

So, bring it on, I say. What testimony of positive contact do we have?

Here's my own. It was very fleeting I would say, but it definitely seems to fit what seems to be an important part of this thread: that some positive ET contact could be perceived as negative.

I was lying in bed, having trouble sleeping. When I'm in a particular state with not being able to sleep, I feel I sometimes go into a bit of an altered state, where I often (if it occurs) go into a lucid dream.

I heard about contact with ETs being possible if one is in particular altered states, whcih can be achieved in meditation. I heard this from a talk I watched on youtube from a guy who had contact with Billy Meier (can't remember the guy's name, wish I could, I think he was American, sandy receding hair... this is bit of a long shot... ring any bells with anyone?). He was saying, basically, that Billy Meier had regular contact, aboard ships, but that he had to be in a particular state of consciousness to gain contact, and that he eventually also had those types of experiences, I think with and without Billy Meier.

So, I'm lying there, not able to sleep, and I realised that I was in an interesting state of consciousness, and that I didn't seem to be dreaming. I suddenly remembered about contact being more possible in altered states etc and I immediately put out a message, very clearly, in my mind saying "ok, if anyone up there is watching, of a positive nature, and wants to have contact, I fully allow it". Where upon I IMMEDIATELY felt as if my consciousness was being pulled VERY strongly out of my body and upwards, and I very quickly ended up lying on some kind of bed. It felt as if the room was slowly coming into focus and I was surrounded by 2 or 3 beings, who were standing there, waiting for me to regain full consciousness.

The vibe in that room felt very peaceful, cosy even, and I felt no threat whatsoever coming from the beings there. Here's the thing though - I was TERRIFIED. Absolutely flipping terrified. It was a terror of the unknown. I didn't know who those beings were, what their intentions were, why I was chosen, where the hell I was, or what was going to happen next. I was fighting against that experience like anything. I absolutely know it was something I wanted to happen, but faced with what seemed like the reality of it, my reaction was uncontrollable, at least for that brief moment. I felt that just that terror alone seemed to shatter my state of consciousness and I very quickly found myself re-entering my body in my own bed again.

So that was that. Could it have been a dream? Yes. Did it feel different to other dreams, even lucid dreams, that I've had? Yes, in a way very much so, but I feel I have to be prepared to say it could also have been a dream.

My 2 pence ;)

PS I haven't checked out any of the vids yet but I look forward to having a peruse...

[Patient]

Good thread, about time perhaps... there's a heck of a lot of negativity going around at the moment, it seems, but maybe that's the norm and I haven't quite realised that...

Anyway, regardless, there's also been plenty of evidence that some of our previously well respected researchers into high strangeness have had the wool completely thrown over their eyes, and some are continuing to deceive themselves, and us... I think you, and anyone reading this, know of whom I speak, but I'll clarify if anyone wants! I'm just not going to mention who and what cos I'm a bit fed up of it all I think.... oh feck it yes I am talking about CG and DW and ALL of that...

As a firm believer in "nothing bad ever happens", I think what we can draw from all of that nonsense and parade is actually a really valuable lesson; one that I'm grateful for having had repeated to me (it was kind of hard to ignore!). A really, really, valuable lesson, IF one is willing to see it as that, and act on it. By crikey could it be ANOTHER lesson in discernment? They don't seem to let up do they...

So, my point in bringing up all of that up, I think, is to say that perhaps it's about time we took all of that fresh and renewed discernment (and perhaps even savvy!) and apply it to some things that haven't been discussed on here for quite a while (at least from my perspective, which isn't very large...)

I think one of the things that's sometimes lost when applying discernment, goes along the lines of why does any of this matter? What relevance does it have to my life, or indeed anyone else's life?

For me, the question of, or seeming actual occurrence of, positive ET contact (or indeed any ET contact), is firstly relevant to me because I find it absolutely fascinating. It's flipping fascinating! Secondly, perhaps, is the question of how does the information gleaned, through the study of said phenomena, or through actual experience of said phenomena, relate to how I operate as a human being. THIRDLY, perhaps, is the question of how does any of this relate to humanity as a whole, right now?

The second question, above, might be hard to answer, but the third, it seems, might be impossible. And I think that goes for us OR indeed THEM, even with their supposed or actual super-minds and super computers.

If ANYONE approaches me and tells me I better listen to this important message from our ET friends and we have to act now for the sake of humanity and that this is how things are and everything is about to change for the better if this information could only be known and it will allow them to come down and be our friends and help expand our technology and we won't have to work any more and it's part of the big shift into 4D or 5D and everything will be better after and we have to act now... THEY ARE IN SERIOUS DANGER OF BEING SLAPPED WITH THE NEAREST THING TO HAND.

But, having said that, there's no harm in speculating, A BIT, I think. That's what we do anyway, all the time, I suppose, and I suppose we have to.

So, bring it on, I say. What testimony of positive contact do we have?

Here's my own. It was very fleeting I would say, but it definitely seems to fit what seems to be an important part of this thread: that some positive ET contact could be perceived as negative.

I was lying in bed, having trouble sleeping. When I'm in a particular state with not being able to sleep, I feel I sometimes go into a bit of an altered state, where I often (if it occurs) go into a lucid dream.

I heard about contact with ETs being possible if one is in particular altered states, whcih can be achieved in meditation. I heard this from a talk I watched on youtube from a guy who had contact with Billy Meier (can't remember the guy's name, wish I could, I think he was American, sandy receding hair... this is bit of a long shot... ring any bells with anyone?). He was saying, basically, that Billy Meier had regular contact, aboard ships, but that he had to be in a particular state of consciousness to gain contact, and that he eventually also had those types of experiences, I think with and without Billy Meier.

So, I'm lying there, not able to sleep, and I realised that I was in an interesting state of consciousness, and that I didn't seem to be dreaming. I suddenly remembered about contact being more possible in altered states etc and I immediately put out a message, very clearly, in my mind saying "ok, if anyone up there is watching, of a positive nature, and wants to have contact, I fully allow it". Where upon I IMMEDIATELY felt as if my consciousness was being pulled VERY strongly out of my body and upwards, and I very quickly ended up lying on some kind of bed. It felt as if the room was slowly coming into focus and I was surrounded by 2 or 3 beings, who were standing there, waiting for me to regain full consciousness.

The vibe in that room felt very peaceful, cosy even, and I felt no threat whatsoever coming from the beings there. Here's the thing though - I was TERRIFIED. Absolutely flipping terrified. It was a terror of the unknown. I didn't know who those beings were, what their intentions were, why I was chosen, where the hell I was, or what was going to happen next. I was fighting against that experience like anything. I absolutely know it was something I wanted to happen, but faced with what seemed like the reality of it, my reaction was uncontrollable, at least for that brief moment. I felt that just that terror alone seemed to shatter my state of consciousness and I very quickly found myself re-entering my body in my own bed again.

So that was that. Could it have been a dream? Yes. Did it feel different to other dreams, even lucid dreams, that I've had? Yes, in a way very much so, but I feel I have to be prepared to say it could also have been a dream.

My 2 pence ;)

PS I haven't checked out any of the vids yet but I look forward to having a peruse...

Can you describe what the beings looked like at all? Did you regain conciousness enough to feel anything in the room? Temperature?

[Apulu]

Can you describe what the beings looked like at all? Did you regain conciousness enough to feel anything in the room? Temperature?

As to what they looked like no not really, at all, other than they seemed humanoid - one seemed to be standing almost over me and there were 2 or 3 further away, just standing there. The picture I was seeing was only slowly beginning to fade into view as if I was slowly opening my eyes, except without the eyelashes in the way, if that makes any sense.

I seemed to get a sense of the size of the room, which seemed about the size of a fairly average-sized living room (it seemed circular, with tables or banks of equipment beyond the beings). It could have been much bigger I suppose, because I couldn't see anything clearly.

I only got a sense of a very blurred outline of the beings. It was as if I was seeing their aura actually, rather than any sharp outline which would determine anything much about what they actually looked like, or what they were wearing, if anything. The whole scene was kind of golden, with coloured lights beyond what was immediately around me, all very fuzzy. I don't remember a clear sense of what colour the beings/humanoid blobs were. I think I also had a sense of the presence of the beings, which seemed calm, warm, and reassuring, but not nearly enough to dissipate the terror of finding myself there!

Thinking about this, I think part of what terrified me was it felt like I was on some kind of observation/medical table, with bright lights above me, and there was a vibe of being quietly observed, which perhaps immediately brought up images and notions of being experimented on, which I was not up for, at all. I just didn't know what was happening, so I completely freaked out.

The temperature seemed pleasantly warm, like a nice sunny day, without any heat, so to speak. Apart from the terror, it was all very pleasant!

[Justplain]

Hi Whisper. Not to be a downer, but I have experienced negative abductions. Truman Cash is a source of non-main-media info about nasty abductions. How's about animal and human mutilation? Obviously, Dr. David Jacobs work you don't want discussed here. Another one's research you wouldn't like is David Paulides'.

This is not to say that there isn't positive alien contact on Earth, because there most likely is. However, the way almost all of the abduction experiences involve memory swipes is highly suspicious. These aliens also have the ability to plant false, 'feel good' memories, to replace traumatic real experiences.

I am quite suspicious of 'positive' encounters with ET's. They appear more to treat us like cattle. After all the ramp up about the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence over the past few decades, if there really are positive et species out there, why don't they have the guts to come out of the closet and have direct public contact with us? Why not have a public Q+A? Instead the hide behind abduction smoke screens.

So, no, I ain't buying the 'good guy' alien narrative just yet. Just like I'm not buying the fake alien invasion either. The ET's have been entrenched here on mother Earth for much longer than people have been around, and we likely have no idea what their real agenda is. And I wouldn't pretend to think that we could understand, either. These creatures are so much ahead of us technologically, it's not funny. And yes, there are those from higher spiritual realms, but those don't need spaceships.

Anyway, sorry to rain on any parades, but that's how I see it.

[Robert deTree]

Hi Whisper, I'm so glad you raised this issue and I too hope that this thread does not become hijacked by stupidity, as seems to happen here often from what I have so far seen and as happens on many other forums. I am an experiencer and have never encountered this sort of negative ET because I don't think it exists. My friend Bright Garlick has had many experiences with ETs and he says that he is constantly harassed by the negative ET types of people and Jesus freaks and receives hate mail from people who believe that he is wrong and being deceived by hostile ETs or working for the NWO. His opinion as I understand it (and I may not understand it that well) is that people are shaped by their conditioning to see the world as it is or into divisions of good and evil. But that's not how it is. It seems to me that we are stunting our own development by believing such naive ideas. And I believe that recent efforts by those in control are feeding this way of seeing things. Especially through groups of To the Stars Academy and Earthfiles. Why people believe so much negativity and cannot think for themselves, I will never know. But ultimately I think it is because they have poorly developed minds and emotions and very limited experiences of life.

Here is Bright for those who have never heard of him. I don't believe he shares on Youtube anymore because of all the hate comments. You can also find his blogs here : https://etandi.wordpress.com/https://thesomethingmonologues.podbean.com/
I fully expect that his videos will prompt some level of hostility from those who believe in the whole hostile alien agenda. But maybe I'll be proven otherwise? I've known Bright since 2007 and he's the real deal. A very down to Earth and honest person who is very private.

Cheers,
Robert.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fvM-pgTBH4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBgg3UpsetA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-y86egwLp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsXE_uHPKGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOcekoxW5Jo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gIWOJ8pqTQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5DJXfg19tM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JYETTlqrg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7SojgYx8QY

[Robert deTree]

His last ET contact video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t69xysnbzDM

[Mercedes]

I am quite suspicious of 'positive' encounters with ET's. They appear more to treat us like cattle. After all the ramp up about the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence over the past few decades, if there really are positive et species out there, why don't they have the guts to come out of the closet and have direct public contact with us? Why not have a public Q+A? Instead the hide behind abduction smoke screens.
.

Yes, and so am I. I believe they have the capacity and technology to make us feel and see many things. So yes, they could make us feel peacefulness, happiness, love, it would make the subject very willing to cooperate, it serves the purpose at the time, less trouble to work with, and then if it serves their purpose too, you will feel the pain, the terror, the helplesness.

[TomKat]

I think your remark does not really fit into this section TomKat....I am trying to avoid this kind of thinking in this thread...because there are many others around where this would be more better placed....


Sorry, but it's pretty clear you're proselytizing, and proselytizing doesn't really fit into Avalon.

[Apulu]

What family? Are you talking about a certain alien race? Or are all aliens cuddly creatures who expend untold resources to come here and play with us?

Also, why do people mistake an encounter with a technological alien race with a spiritual experience? Seems kind of an alarm bell that the aliens allow this misconception on the part of their contactees.


I think the minimum being asked, by Whisper (correct me if I'm wrong), is that the discussion here be largely about the evidence for positive ET contact. Also that we not have the thread turn into a debate around the idea of ANY positive contact being possible.

That all seems fair enough to me, and I think anyone is entitled to make that type of request in any given thread. Is it not? There are, indeed, surely, plenty of places you could have that debate, (or start one yourself?).

I get that it would NOT be good for the forum to not be able to debate anything, and I get your concern about proselytising, but if the OP of a thread specifically asks that there not be a debate around the subject of the thread EVEN BEING POSSIBLE, that's gotta be fair, to my mind.

Imagine if someone starts a thread about homeopathy, asks for it not to be a debate about whether or not homeopathy works, or not, or is it all just made up, and then people jump in and do exactly that. What's the the point of that?

[Seabreeze]

sorry I dont have much time at the moment. But I will answer more detailed later on.... I think it is very important to have a Thread only about positiv and peaceful contacts to Star beings many people had already. Many things often get created by missunderstandings, false memories caused by phantasie and fear and by the common media propaganda.

So I think it is important to see the other side also...for a balance.... My thinking was more into sharing positiv contacts to star beings, we all can learn from....

I think Dolores Cannon did a lot of work here...to find out what really went on with
the people who got abducted and it was amazing what she found out...but it seems to me not many do really listen to what she discovered by all the regression session she did with abductuees.....

[Seabreeze]

Hi Whisper. Not to be a downer, but I have experienced negative abductions. Truman Cash is a source of non-main-media info about nasty abductions. How's about animal and human mutilation? Obviously, Dr. David Jacobs work you don't want discussed here. Another one's research you wouldn't like is David Paulides'.

This is not to say that there isn't positive alien contact on Earth, because there most likely is. However, the way almost all of the abduction experiences involve memory swipes is highly suspicious. These aliens also have the ability to plant false, 'feel good' memories, to replace traumatic real experiences.

I am quite suspicious of 'positive' encounters with ET's. They appear more to treat us like cattle. After all the ramp up about the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence over the past few decades, if there really are positive et species out there, why don't they have the guts to come out of the closet and have direct public contact with us? Why not have a public Q+A? Instead the hide behind abduction smoke screens.

So, no, I ain't buying the 'good guy' alien narrative just yet. Just like I'm not buying the fake alien invasion either. The ET's have been entrenched here on mother Earth for much longer than people have been around, and we likely have no idea what their real agenda is. And I wouldn't pretend to think that we could understand, either. These creatures are so much ahead of us technologically, it's not funny. And yes, there are those from higher spiritual realms, but those don't need spaceships.

Anyway, sorry to rain on any parades, but that's how I see it.

hey, justplain...
I did read your post just now...and my advice for you would be..to make a regression session with one of the therapists who got teached by Dolores Cannon....to find out what exactly happend to you.....you can find one of the therapist in your area here :

https://www.qhhtofficial.com/find-a-practitioner

...don`t make up your mind to quick....it might be very important.....

....because many times..the people who have those experiences have false memories...it is often mixed with their own phantasie thinking..caused by fear.......

Like I wrote before....all the regression session Dolores did...which was many....it was always the same result...the people understood then what exactly happened to them then...and found out it was not horrible at all......


here is a short video....Dolores talking ( I dont like to post 1 hrs. videos...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwaDUFjga1k

Dolores I think, had the most knowledge and expierience with regression sessions for ET abductuees......

About this your wrote : These aliens also have the ability to plant false, 'feel good' memories, to replace traumatic real experiences.

...there are also some human organizations who are able to do so...... I dont understand why everybody is pushing everything always on beings from other stars...... what do you think they (humans) do by the common TV every day around the clock?.........subliminals and so on.....MK Ultra..electronic weapons...ELF waves and the list goes on and on.......

I think one big problem is...to many people have hardly any or no knowledge what is going on behind the curtain......so it is very easy to manipulate into the direction prefered.....and just blame the ET`s if something leaks out.....

[Seabreeze]

I am quite suspicious of 'positive' encounters with ET's. They appear more to treat us like cattle. After all the ramp up about the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence over the past few decades, if there really are positive et species out there, why don't they have the guts to come out of the closet and have direct public contact with us? Why not have a public Q+A? Instead the hide behind abduction smoke screens.
.

Yes, and so am I. I believe they have the capacity and technology to make us feel and see many things. So yes, they could make us feel peacefulness, happiness, love, it would make the subject very willing to cooperate, it serves the purpose at the time, less trouble to work with, and then if it serves their purpose too, you will feel the pain, the terror, the helplesness.

I think this goes with the same answer...they (humans) could do so also by the technology they have ....

so how come we listen to music in 440 hz insteed of 432 hz? Or how come we only see brutality and murder on TV insteed something positiv we could learn there...... for example? How come we are constantly brainwashed (human made) from many sides? I would not say the ET`s tread us like cattles.....I would say the manipulating humans tread us like cattles.....

I am just speaking for myself now....I would not like to get manipulated in which way ever....a manipulation stays a manipulation and I would not want anybody to use a technology to make me feel peaceful or happy or whatevers..... I like to expierience my own feelings and not artificial feelings........

I think they wait for us to wake up........to get out of this box of manipulations....to grow up and to be ready to meet them....

..it is a learning process...I think..we have to go through at first......

[Mercedes]

I am quite suspicious of 'positive' encounters with ET's. They appear more to treat us like cattle. After all the ramp up about the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence over the past few decades, if there really are positive et species out there, why don't they have the guts to come out of the closet and have direct public contact with us? Why not have a public Q+A? Instead the hide behind abduction smoke screens.
.

Yes, and so am I. I believe they have the capacity and technology to make us feel and see many things. So yes, they could make us feel peacefulness, happiness, love, it would make the subject very willing to cooperate, it serves the purpose at the time, less trouble to work with, and then if it serves their purpose too, you will feel the pain, the terror, the helplesness.

I think this goes with the same answer...they (humans) could do so also by the technology they have ....

so how come we listen to music in 440 hz insteed of 432 hz? Or how come we only see brutality and murder on TV insteed something positiv we could learn there...... for example? How come we are constantly brainwashed (human made) from many sides? I would not say the ET`s tread us like cattles.....I would say the manipulating humans tread us like cattles.....

I am just speaking for myself now....I would not like to get manipulated in which way ever....a manipulation stays a manipulation and I would not want anybody to use a technology to make me feel peaceful or happy or whatevers..... I like to expierience my own feelings and not artificial feelings........

I think they wait for us to wake up........to get out of this box of manipulations....to grow up and to be ready to meet them....

..it is a learning process...I think..we have to go through at first......

Hi Whisper, I do understand the point you are trying to make, positive experiences or contacts with ET's , there could be, as we are ( as humans) some good and some bad. But I believe that the good ET's will stay in the background, not intervening or taking part in our lives. The bad ones on the other hand want to meddle so they become our superiors in many ways, with apparent good intentions and we become so entraped in their game of guidance or salvation that we cannot see it's keeping us from developing our own skills and sovereignty. And the bad ones , well , they do like to scare us to death, and disect our DNA, our bodies
and play with our emotions see how far they can get to makes us feel a variety of them. I know some governments are using ET technology to abduct people too, and not very scrupulous at that as we know by the outstanding number of missing children and adults all over the world. But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

[TomKat]

But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

Yes. I wonder why ETs would be helping another race of beings, in this case, humans? Do humans help ETs? We help our pets and sometimes other animals, but usually not if it conflicts with the needs of humans.

[Seabreeze]

I am quite suspicious of 'positive' encounters with ET's. They appear more to treat us like cattle. After all the ramp up about the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence over the past few decades, if there really are positive et species out there, why don't they have the guts to come out of the closet and have direct public contact with us? Why not have a public Q+A? Instead the hide behind abduction smoke screens.
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Yes, and so am I. I believe they have the capacity and technology to make us feel and see many things. So yes, they could make us feel peacefulness, happiness, love, it would make the subject very willing to cooperate, it serves the purpose at the time, less trouble to work with, and then if it serves their purpose too, you will feel the pain, the terror, the helplesness.

I think this goes with the same answer...they (humans) could do so also by the technology they have ....

so how come we listen to music in 440 hz insteed of 432 hz? Or how come we only see brutality and murder on TV insteed something positiv we could learn there...... for example? How come we are constantly brainwashed (human made) from many sides? I would not say the ET`s tread us like cattles.....I would say the manipulating humans tread us like cattles.....

I am just speaking for myself now....I would not like to get manipulated in which way ever....a manipulation stays a manipulation and I would not want anybody to use a technology to make me feel peaceful or happy or whatevers..... I like to expierience my own feelings and not artificial feelings........

I think they wait for us to wake up........to get out of this box of manipulations....to grow up and to be ready to meet them....

..it is a learning process...I think..we have to go through at first......

Hi Whisper, I do understand the point you are trying to make, positive experiences or contacts with ET's , there could be, as we are ( as humans) some good and some bad. But I believe that the good ET's will stay in the background, not intervening or taking part in our lives. The bad ones on the other hand want to meddle so they become our superiors in many ways, with apparent good intentions and we become so entraped in their game of guidance or salvation that we cannot see it's keeping us from developing our own skills and sovereignty. And the bad ones , well , they do like to scare us to death, and disect our DNA, our bodies
and play with our emotions see how far they can get to makes us feel a variety of them. I know some governments are using ET technology to abduct people too, and not very scrupulous at that as we know by the outstanding number of missing children and adults all over the world. But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

yes Mercedes...I was not sure if I should bring this up also... But good you did make the remark about governments using ET technology to abduct people..... So it is often not even clear by whom they actually got abducted.......by aliens or humans useing ET technology? And I bet in many cases it was done by humans.......but the abductuee is thinking or believing it was the ET`s......

It is the same with the UFO`s ....what is a real UFO and what is a secret military craft maybe created with ET technology? It is hard to tell.....there are to many secrets uncovered.....

It would be interesting to find someone, who discovered by a regressions session.....the abduction was actually done by humans using certain technologies. So far, I did not hear anybody talking about this kind result in a video. But maybe I missed it...?? I will be looking, if I find something about this...when I have time to do so.

Youtube to me seems limited...it is always the same videos coming up, when I scroll down, over and over again.....so it is only a certain amount of videos I get presented....which makes it hard if you search for something........

To me it seems like the Aliens, in many cases, try to tell us to take care better ourselfs and our planet..... like said in the posted videos already.....

[Patient]

But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

Yes. I wonder why ETs would be helping another race of beings, in this case, humans? Do humans help ETs? We help our pets and sometimes other animals, but usually not if it conflicts with the needs of humans.

Just like what we have seen in the news - bad news get the attention of the general public. Negative ET stories stand out more than stories of kindness.

Although I do not have the numbers researched to prove this, but it seems to me that the majority of the contact stories that are heard involve the short greys abducting people. As soon as you are abducted, there is a negative feeling to it even if their intentions are good.

I think this thread is important because hopefully people will post their positive experience here. Or at the very least some people will read about the fact that there have been positive experiences.

My experience (although I am still trying to determine if it was a real event or only in my mind) is relevant to this thread.

I woke up on a hard surface with a thin sheet over my body, partially covering my head. My vision was a bit obscured by the sheet and I had to move my head in order to see more, but I was so scared I did not want to move. My fear was due to the fact that I did not know where I was. I could see a table sort of thing and I assumed that it was similar to what I was on. Behind that was a plain sort of wall with light coming from an source that I could not make out. (I do not know if the light came from the wall itself or a fixed light source.)

I was cold. The type of cold you feel when you have had a big sweat over your entire body. I felt that the room was not too big and I wanted to have a look around, but again, I did not want to move because I was afraid to bring attention to myself. I gathered my nerve and turned my head upward (as I was in the fetal position) and I saw another table and then a being moved into my view. I was laying on my right side - the being came from the area to the right, so by my head. As I turned my head and looked into their face I was shocked/scared only for a fraction of a second because I was immediately aware of a warm feeling of love that washed over me. In my mind I was given the feeling of the love a mother has for their baby or child. This lasted only for a second or two and then I was unconscious and awoke in my own bed.

Again, I was scared to move for a bit until I was confident that I was indeed home.

My point though is that the being made the effort for me to not be scared. Also, they could have disguised themselves, but I assume that they didn't. (I can only assume because I do not know what for sure, is real in regards to this.)

I feel that this was not a dream due to the sensations that I felt. I do not recall feeling temperature in any dream. I do not recall feeling sweaty in any dream. In the majority of dreams, I am going through the motions. In this event, I was really aware of my surroundings and I had to gather my courage to move - and it was like when you gather your courage and "push" with everything you got to get past the point that is holding you.

Bottom line for this thread - the being tried to not have this event be negative. Sure, they could have done other things to make it positive I suppose. But at the same time, they showed themselves to me. They let me see them long enough to know what they looked like. They didn't have to.

In looking at my experiences, I feel like I have been tested to see how I react to seeing them and how I react being in their presence.

I see that as a positive thing.

[Seabreeze]

I am not sure...but I think Dolores Cannon said this : Earth is like a school..and the ET`s are watching us. They are not allowed to interfer..only in certain cases... They have to check on certain humans or family`s periodically. Some medical examinations are necessary for them to find out how we develope.

Actually...some of them, it looks like, are with us a very long time already. You can read it up under ancient aliens. Many tribes write in their history books about contact`s to star beings..the native americans, the polynesian people, the maya*s, the egyptians...a.s.o.....

[Seabreeze]

But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

Yes. I wonder why ETs would be helping another race of beings, in this case, humans? Do humans help ETs? We help our pets and sometimes other animals, but usually not if it conflicts with the needs of humans.

We might be related to them......but even if not they could try to help us to find better ways than the ones which we are using at the time......

I believe planet Terra (earth) is not only important to us..the humans......

...I think they have an eye on us also, to make sure we don`t harm this planet to much ....

[TomKat]

But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

Yes. I wonder why ETs would be helping another race of beings, in this case, humans? Do humans help ETs? We help our pets and sometimes other animals, but usually not if it conflicts with the needs of humans.

We might be related to them......but even if not they could try to help us to find better ways than the ones which we are using at the time......
I believe planet Terra (earth) is not only important to us..the humans......
...I think they have an eye on us also, to make sure we don`t harm this planet to much ....

Using your school analogy, maybe they're the prison guards.

[Robert deTree]

TomKat you seem to have so much fear. Don't you know what you are and that there is no separation between you and any ET ?

[raregem]

I was so excited when I saw this thread started. I posted some basics of my POSITIVE experience and yet, not a single question or statement for me to delve even further.
So disappointed but, oh well. I really thought this was something else altogether. It is not. It has become more of the same anti-thinking as a lot of the threads I have seen lately. Sorry, Whisper. I really liked your title and hoped to hear others with upbeat experiences.
Please remove my post if, offensive. Otherwise, this is how I feel. Enough.

[Seabreeze]

Thanks for this thread Whisper. I have shared with very few people about the contact I share with what I consider off worlders for lack of a better name. The Christian had an adverse reaction. The psychic was open to it. We shall see how PA reacts neg. or has an open mind.
I am grateful to be in this time and space with my friends from Pleiades and Sirius B. I am not abducted nor am I imposed upon through our time together. They are here to learn through me what it means to be human on Earth in 3d environment. We (there are 4 of them) communicate daily and learn from each other. They like animals, plants and dancing. They are loving beings that require no deep meditations for our talks freely back and forth. I am not crazy nor is my mind off. It is so. And, I thank them from my heart for their patience and giving.
There is more than meets the eye on Earth. Main message- LOVE one another.

hey raregem,

I am sorry I didnt have more time lately to answer to all the postings around here. I never thought this thread would explode like this. But this is very positive and shows there are many people interested to hear and write about the peaceful contacts to ET`s.....

You wrote you had or have contact to beings from the pleiades and from Sirius B.... It would be interesting to know how did you get this contacts at the first time and what did you expierience then?

The polynesian people also say, in history they had contacts to beings from the pleiades.....I just found out a couple days ago... which I found amazing, because me myself feel somehow connected to them for a long time already.

I had some expieriences myself, but did not see any beings clear yet or maybe my memorie got blocked? I can not tell...

Sorry if I am not so active around here at the time. But I have some upcoming changes in my life right now, which keeps me away from the internet lately......but I hope soon I will have more time again to join you over here....:waving:

[Seabreeze]

But I could be wrong, and there could be good ET's helping in our journey in this planet. it's just so hard to believe that when the evidence leans the other way.

Yes. I wonder why ETs would be helping another race of beings, in this case, humans? Do humans help ETs? We help our pets and sometimes other animals, but usually not if it conflicts with the needs of humans.

We might be related to them......but even if not they could try to help us to find better ways than the ones which we are using at the time......
I believe planet Terra (earth) is not only important to us..the humans......
...I think they have an eye on us also, to make sure we don`t harm this planet to much ....

Using your school analogy, maybe they're the prison guards.

this is the wrong combination.....A school has teachers watching the youngsters and try to teach them...........Prison guards watch criminals......

I see them as teachers....

[TomKat]

TomKat you seem to have so much fear. Don't you know what you are and that there is no separation between you and any ET ?

Really, Master Robert? I am so relieved. Hallelujah! :-)

Seriously, apathy posing as love and light and wisdom... I'm not a fan.

[william r sanford72]

The title to the thread is pretty clear and whisper stated in pretty simple terms what she hoped to gain from post..so ifn you have no positive interactions with ET/star familys than this isn't the thread to bee posting on is it?

thank you for the thread Whisper.

William.

[TomKat]

The title to the thread is pretty clear and whisper stated in pretty simple terms what she hoped to gain from post..so ifn you have no positive interactions with ET/star familys than this isn't the thread to bee posting on is it?

thank you for the thread Whisper.

William.

Oh William! If I could just get over my fear I would join you and the space brothers in perpetual happiness! Alas, I have failed... Namiste

[Robert deTree]

I was so excited when I saw this thread started. I posted some basics of my POSITIVE experience and yet, not a single question or statement for me to delve even further.
So disappointed but, oh well. I really thought this was something else altogether. It is not. It has become more of the same anti-thinking as a lot of the threads I have seen lately. Sorry, Whisper. I really liked your title and hoped to hear others with upbeat experiences.
Please remove my post if, offensive. Otherwise, this is how I feel. Enough.

Raregem, unfortunately this is exactly what happens to experiencers like yourself and bright Garlick. And it's sad. No honest discussion.

[Constance]

Modnote: TomKat has been blocked from this thread for unhelpful posts.

In the meanwhile TomKat, you can post anywhere else on this forum.

[etheric underground]

If you look at the entirety of the phenomena (abduction/contact)experience.
There is a definitive intelligent agenda.
Many have horrific experiences and many do not.
But my take on it is that both negative and positive experiences are planned and purposeful and they are using subterfuge in majority of experiences
I’ve edited my post as my rant was from a negative space ( been listening to Derrel Sims of late)
So I’m changing my post to one of support instead of conjecture....
My hope is that my andromedan star family have a bigger input in preserving the human experience

[Patient]

I would like to think that there are good ETs that want to help us and make a difference.

As we are all agreed that the ET technology is so far advanced that they could make us see and feel anything they would like us to, how do we know to even trust good ET experiences?

My apologies if this has been addressed - perhaps if it has, it was just not stated bold enough.

We can't really know for sure. Abductions could be serving a really good cause - they could be wiping out an unknown virus. A good visit full of good advice like "be good to the planet" could hide something negative that was done to us without our knowledge.

To really be effective, a good race of ETs would have to make themselves known to a high percentage of the population and the message would need to be something that would unite us all in a very good way.

Why just visit a few people? Or are these contacts just a rare chance encounter? Are the good ETs being kept away by other races?

How do we get to the truth of this - is that even possible?

Perhaps I am in a bad mood right now, and I am frustrated by all of the negative things that are happening to many good people in this world.

[Seabreeze]

The title to the thread is pretty clear and whisper stated in pretty simple terms what she hoped to gain from post..so ifn you have no positive interactions with ET/star familys than this isn't the thread to bee posting on is it?

thank you for the thread Whisper.

William.

You very welcome William. And this goes for all the others who find this thread important to have..also....:waving:

[Seabreeze]

I just like to say it again....Dolores Cannon made thousands of regression sessions with people who got abducted by ET`s...and in all cases the horrific experience memory they had dissapaered....which was mainly caused by their own fear phantasie........

..when they found out by the regression session...what actually happened to them, and why..they understood and realized it was not horrible at all......

humans tend to find everything, which does not fit into their normal picture as scary or horrifing.....the the imagination even reinforces it.....

She also said....they only check on their own people...people which have a certain mission here on earth....



Then....I have to think about all those searching for live in space we do....but we actually have no glue on how to react, if there would be a official appearance of Aliens.......

We even did send out into space severall messages for them to find us...which is a invitation.

The Arecibo message 1974 even got answered......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9jWU9aMT8

So how would it look like if a UFO fleet actually would land somewhere? I dont think to greet them with military and weapons would be a good move at all. If you invite someone you should be prepared for your guests coming in.....

How should we greet our guests?

I think it is about time to think about...how a first meeting should or could look like..in a peaceful way.......

...we are not really ready for a first official contact, it looks like to me...so we should stop sending out invitations into space..... (my opinion)

And then, we dont know much about them....they might have a totally diffrent thinking than we do..... We are maybe even related to them......

It is something we should think about....http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/think/m1725.gif

[Seabreeze]

So far I did not bring in my own expiriences....because I cant really tell on what was paranormal or Extraterrestrial, or my sightings which I can not tell was it a military craft or actually a UFO? It is very confusing not to know.

But all I can say is....I had 3 expiriences...which been very amazing to me...and I wont ever forget. I see it positiv and I would like to find out more about it. Hopefully one day I will....

[Mercedes]

But aren' you going to tell us your experiences? Whisper?

[Patient]

She also said....they only check on their own people...people which have a certain mission here on earth....
http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/think/m1725.gif

I have not researched Delores Cannon very much. Did she say anything more about what the missions of these people might be?

Also, do we know how many different races are doing the abductions?

I am asking these questions to try to help me with my own experiences. In my experience which I described in this thread, there were no greys. But most abduction related accounts from people include greys.

[Seabreeze]

But aren' you going to tell us your experiences? Whisper?

I think about it Mercedes. I did it before on some other forum and was dissapointed...there was no respond at all. It was like..who ever read it...thought I make up some fairy tales..or lies.But I am far away to do so. This subject is much to important to me. And I hate lies or people who make up stories, just to make themselves important to others. It is totaly not my style.....to create fantasie buildings..... I am a honest person.... But in this case even my former friends made jokes about it and called it fantasie or dreams....because it did not fit into their world picture....

And I believe there is some kind of danger about it also....if certain things get discussed to openly. There are some government departments which have interests in it and I would not like to get this kind of attention......

..this is pretty open here for the public...which is holding me back....

[Seabreeze]

[QUOTE=Whisper;1297468]



I have not researched Delores Cannon very much. Did she say anything more about what the missions of these people might be?

Also, do we know how many different races are doing the abductions?

I am asking these questions to try to help me with my own experiences. In my experience which I described in this thread, there were no greys. But most abduction related accounts from people include greys.

Dolores did talk about severall Extraterrestrials in connection with abductions. She wrote books about it. I found this here in the net, I hope it answers some of your questions :

February 18, 2013 by Julia Cannon (daughter of Dolores Cannon)

Many investigators of the phenomenon of UFOs only study sightings and try to obtain physical evidence of the crafts having visited Earth, such as landing marks or radiation. Other investigators confine their research to abductions. I have moved beyond these subjects to investigate the bigger picture encompassing the spiritual implications of UFOs: the story of whom we are, where we came from and where we are going.

When investigating UFOs and abductions, many researchers believe the Extraterrestrials involved appear to be conducting some type of genetic manipulation of human beings, with or without our consent. My research has revealed that these aliens are not acting out of clinical or selfish motives, but are carrying out the orders of a higher authority.

One analogy I have used to describe visitations by UFOs and the abductions of humans is that it is akin to a child being treated in a crowded hospital. The child is frightened by the hospital’s clinical setting and the tests being conducted. As adults, we have some understanding of the reason why the child needs to be examined and treated, but to them the busy doctors and staff may seem unemotional and uncaring. It is nearly impossible for us to explain the totality of the circumstances to the child.

In many of the cases I’ve studied concerning UFOs, the aliens described by my subjects display a similar attitude, as though they are dealing with a child or a person of limited intelligence who wouldn’t understand the process even if it were explained to them. Some abductees react as our children might, by protesting that the aliens have no right to treat them this way, without their permission or even trying to explain what is happening.

Some researchers of UFOs and alien abductions dramatically theorize these otherworldly beings abduct humans to take their genetic material for experiments to save their own dying race from extinction by clinically producing alien-human hybrids.

My theory about UFOs and abductions is markedly different. I am told the vast majority of aliens visiting the Earth are not here for their own purposes – but for ours. While there may be some renegade beings engaged on Earth for their own benefit, they are in the minority, operating outside the grand, higher plan for Earth and humanity. The aliens and entities I communicate with are studying us and evolving our DNA for a higher purpose.

As I have written many times before about UFOs and the alien connection to mankind, the Earth was seeded with life many eons ago. Highly advanced and intelligent beings carried out the Creator or God’s master plan to spread life to as many worlds as possible throughout all the universes, in order for Source to have infinite experiences of itself.

UFOs and Extraterrestrials from many worlds are only continuing the work they were assigned to do when life on Earth was conceived: to monitor and care for God’s creation.

Dolores Cannon

source : https://dolorescannon.com/ufos-abductions-bigger-picture/

[Patient]

Thank you Whisper. :)

[Patient]

But aren' you going to tell us your experiences? Whisper?

I think about it Mercedes. I did it before on some other forum and was dissapointed...there was no respond at all. It was like..who ever read it...thought I make up some fairy tales..or lies.But I am far away to do so. This subject is much to important to me. And I hate lies or people who make up stories, just to make themselves important to others. It is totaly not my style.....to create fantasie buildings..... I am a honest person.... But in this case even my former friends made jokes about it and called it fantasie or dreams....because it did not fit into their world picture....

And I believe there is some kind of danger about it also....if certain things get discussed to openly. There are some government departments which have interests in it and I would not like to get this kind of attention......

..this is pretty open here for the public...which is holding me back....

I understand your feelings and your concerns with this. But there are other ways to think about this too!

It is good to let things out rather than keeping everything boxed up inside yourself.

And you don't have to explain everything, especially if it is too personnel and/or painful to recall. I have a couple things that I have experienced that I will probably never put out for anyone to read. I do not even want to tell the story to my closest friend.

There is also the "members only" section here on Avalon. I have found that when I post in there, the posts seem to be received with a bit more respect and caring.

I relate my experiences for 2 main reasons; the first reason is that I hope that I will receive some feedback that will help me in understanding what I experienced. The second is that I hope that in putting my experiences out there for other people to read that I am helping someone else understand what they are going through. I expect that there are many people that will never post anything about themselves or ask anyone for their opinion. Their only help might be reading about another person who has gone through something similar.

Ultimately, your experiences are yours to share only if you choose to do so. I am sure that everyone here on Avalon has similar feelings and your decision to post or not to post is completely respected.

[Chris Gilbert]

[QUOTE=Patient;1297551][QUOTE=Whisper;1297468]

My theory about UFOs and abductions is markedly different. I am told the vast majority of aliens visiting the Earth are not here for their own purposes – but for ours. While there may be some renegade beings engaged on Earth for their own benefit, they are in the minority, operating outside the grand, higher plan for Earth and humanity. The aliens and entities I communicate with are studying us and evolving our DNA for a higher purpose.

As I have written many times before about UFOs and the alien connection to mankind, the Earth was seeded with life many eons ago. Highly advanced and intelligent beings carried out the Creator or God’s master plan to spread life to as many worlds as possible throughout all the universes, in order for Source to have infinite experiences of itself.

UFOs and Extraterrestrials from many worlds are only continuing the work they were assigned to do when life on Earth was conceived: to monitor and care for God’s creation.

Dolores Cannon[/B][/COLOR]

source : https://dolorescannon.com/ufos-abductions-bigger-picture/

Thanks for sharing the link.

Based on a number of theories I've read in the past I started out thinking any ET groups (greys/tall whites) intervening on Earth were part of a grand cosmic conspiracy and exploiting us for resources. Whenever I've tried empathetic/Qigong based connection to them however, my experiences have been largely positive. Doesn't mean that is the full picture though, and it's why I would never tell anyone that their negative experience with greys and such is a delusion, as that would simply be rude and belittling. I think that all of us, myself included however, should be open and reexamine our experiences as time goes on, and not let our assumptions based on anything we've read define permanently define it. Perceptions can change as awareness shifts with new information or experiences.

One thought that keeps running through my head is the difference between the non-linear, intuitive and largely unconscious Soul and our conditioned waking Self. In Medical Qigong/Taoism it can also be called the Preheaven (before birth) Shen and the Postheaven Shen. I'd hazard a guess that ET encounters are more in the Preheaven category, with our Postheaven linear mind struggling to make sense of it after.

I've also never 'consciously' consented when being brought into medical procedures/examinations as a child, nor did the feral cat I recently adopted. The long term results have been good however. Rather than being an outright malevolent plan, maybe there are some ETs, or ET organizations, whose long term goals are benevolent, but whose procedures could be criticized and reworked, or individuals who exploit their power? Here in my home state of Michigan the disgraced gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar went to prison recently over multiple instances of sexual molestation. That would not mean of course that there are no gymnastics doctors who do good or necessary work. As we gain more psychic perception, maybe feedback from us is what would shift their way of going about things?

[EFO]

But aren' you going to tell us your experiences? Whisper?

I think about it Mercedes. I did it before on some other forum and was dissapointed...there was no respond at all. It was like..who ever read it...thought I make up some fairy tales..or lies.But I am far away to do so. This subject is much to important to me. And I hate lies or people who make up stories, just to make themselves important to others. It is totaly not my style.....to create fantasie buildings..... I am a honest person.... But in this case even my former friends made jokes about it and called it fantasie or dreams....because it did not fit into their world picture....

And I believe there is some kind of danger about it also....if certain things get discussed to openly. There are some government departments which have interests in it and I would not like to get this kind of attention......

..this is pretty open here for the public...which is holding me back....

Dear Whisper,

I fully understand your reasons not to tell your story due to lack of listeners/readers understanding,it happened to me also and I learned that I have to "feel" the right person/s to start a conversation about extraterrestrials and even then the conversation have different grades of difficulty no matter how much that person is instructed. :) It took me three years to make my wife understand me,but after that,her experiences - totally different from mines,beside bringing more interesting things,together with them brings more questions.An other example is that after I gave an interview for ContactTV,ASFAN - Association for Study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon - contacted me to give them more informations about my experiences.After exchanging a few emails about preparing the informations,they suddenly silenced.Paraphrasing an English saying:"What's good for the goose is NOT good for the gander". :)

What we are doing now is writing accompanied with drawings and photos every memory we have about our experience and possible at one time to upload them on Avalon,but this will take time because things are continued happening and we have to go back and forth in time as much as memories came out to surface.

In any case,even you were disappointed by the reaction of your listeners/readers,you planted the seeds which at least one will sprouting somewhere,sometime.The "prize" consisting is not what you receive for the moment,but what you'll receive in the future.And will not be a material prize. :)

"THEY"always teach us good lessons and this is the way "THEY" "rewarded" us.What we ask,that will receive if we are open minded.

[Seabreeze]

I had a dream ? last night. All I could see was some deep blue eyes looking at me. A voice speaking to me...I am not from here....but I am with you...

was it a dream or maybe more than a dream? It is hard to tell....

It did remind me of one expirience I had many years ago. I was drifting into sleep and thought I am dreaming a beautiful dream. But when I woke up the next day....I had marks on both of my feets......

[EFO]

I had a dream ? last night. All I could see was some deep blue eyes looking at me. A voice speaking to me...I am not from here....but I am with you...

was it a dream or maybe more than a dream? It is hard to tell....

It did remind me of one expirience I had many years ago. I was drifting into sleep and thought I am dreaming a beautiful dream. But when I woke up the next day....I had marks on both of my feets......

What is going on Whisper?

As I looked at the hour you posted your dream,almost at that time my wife told me to scroll a web page http://tall-white-aliens.com/ in which she said that she want to see the picture of a female not old and not young who was staring straight at me with her blue eyes.I scrolled down and up the page to find that image but she told me it wasn't there.We start arguing about where is the picture,she telling me that it was on that page or other pages and I telling her that I didn't open other pages and I showed her in "History" that I opened only 3 pages:my email,Avalon's XCon 2005 - Charles Hall...and that web site.

So,to whom belongs yours "blue eyes" and who was the person with the "blue eyes" that I didn't saw it,but my wife did it in a picture who doesn't exist on a web page?

EDIT......................

What are the connection between the "blue eyes" from your dream,this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50137-XCon-2005-Charles-Hall-The-Tall-Whites-ET-Experiences-in-the-Nevada-Desert&p=1301675&viewfull=1#post1301675),this web page (http://tall-white-aliens.com/) and what my wife saw?

[Seabreeze]

I guess the picture your wife talks about is the one I found on your link. I will attach it with this post.

The eyes I seen been more dark blue and deep like the ocean. And the voice did sound like a man`s voice......

ups...I just found out there a severall more pictures on your link. :blushing: Interesting. Thank you for posting it.

What is the connection....? Could be a peaceful contact experience....:confused:

[EFO]

I guess the picture your wife talks about is the one I found on your link. I will attach it with this post.

None of the picture from that web site looked as my wife told me about when I was reading a passage from Ashtar.On that section there is no image,only text (attached image).After I read it her the question and the answer,she told me to show her the "picture".Arguing with her she told me,while I was scrolling up an down the page,that the image was as big as the web page.There is no such big picture on the web page and none of those pictures looks like she wanted to see it again and attract her so much. :)

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The eyes I seen been more dark blue and deep like the ocean. And the voice did sound like a man`s voice......

I would like to see those kind of eyes you described,but I think I'm meant to have different kind of experiences.I can only help you with a dream of my wife in which she stand in front of a huge beautiful female head with blonde-white,almost transparent.She doesn't remember her eyes.To imagine the proportions put your index finger at a distance of a third of a foot in front your face and that finger was my wife. :)


ups...I just found out there a several more pictures on your link. Interesting. Thank you for posting it.

Is not my merit,is TomKat's. :)


What is the connection....? Could be a peaceful contact experience....

I would add it:and benevolent :thumbsup:

In any case,somebody with blue eyes is trying to send,at least a message through different modalities,if not more.

Thank you for your reply. :)

[Seabreeze]

does this maybe looks like the picture your wife talked about? This just did cross my way while I was watching a video.....

I have no idea what is going on today...also....

[EFO]

does this maybe looks like the picture your wife talked about? This just did cross my way while I was watching a video.....

I have no idea what is going on today...also....

No,but the title of the video is interesting and I'll watch it later.

[Seabreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ

[Seabreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLL4rpJXkA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9meuNu_Sc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHicBpkMdA

video from 2013

[Seabreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sef4YT2s6i4

Video November 2018

[Seabreeze]

“We are all made of stardust”........https://yoursmiles.org/hsmile/alien/h01150.gif....https://yoursmiles.org/hsmile/alien/h0127.gif...https://yoursmiles.org/hsmile/alien/h0124.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVDCibp1MDY Video from 2018


2017
For decades, science popularizers have said humans are made of stardust, and survey of 150,000 stars shows just how true the old cliché is: Humans and their galaxy have about 97 percent of the same kind of atoms, and the elements of life appear to be more prevalent toward the galaxy's center, the research found.

source and full text : https://www.space.com/35276-humans-made-of-stardust-galaxy-life-elements.html

[Denise/Dizi]

My experiences were very positive, yet I could see how others may think that the same experience was "Anything but".. So contacts can be a very subjective thing.. What one sees as a positive, could be seen as entirely invasive and negative.

For me, my contacts revolved around personal growth and development, for both myself and humanity as a whole. As we move forward into the "technology phase" of our development, it is imperative we get this right. I was researching such things, and got a 6 month demonstration of what was to come.

And if we get this right, life is going to be really wonderful, but if we get it wrong, it will be a catastrophic series of events. I was shown both outcomes.

I was shown where we are taking our technology. With the help of some et, they are helping us to continue to develop both our technology, as well as our personal development, so that we use said technology responsibly. And as a result of that, I got to experience some truly amazing things..

I was also shown how we are not using said technology very responsibly.

There were no screen shots, no screen memories, they did this while I was awake and aware, and with my permission. So there are some et that are engaging us, in positive ways, and they don't have to, they want to. Because we are their neighbors, and eventually we will want to come join them "out there".

I was asked to join a "Program" and I agreed. And what followed was mind blowing, and really too much to try to write here, I tried, and it became a novel. But I will say that there are some good reasons that they're helping us. One is to develop our own character, rather than using our energy, reducing the character of others. To know who we are, and live that, without the influence of anyone else's issues. As this is the only way we can grow. But our environment isn't set up that way so we must be responsible and manage this ourselves.

I was shown that our technology can create amazing things for us, or destroy us if we neglect our responsibility to those things... I was shown that before we go space surfing we must develop telepathic abilities, as we are "frail" when it comes to guarding the mind from others.. And they're trying to help us with that. To me, that is a kind gesture.. They know the dangers we would face "out there", and as such are helping us to make sure when we are out there, we have a chance to thrive. Not just be manipulated.

These are my opinions based upon my own contacts, so I do believe that yes there absolutely ARE good contacts... I hope this helps to share some happy energy to the subject matter.

[Seabreeze]

I am still not sure about my own experiences, I had in the past. Was it something paranormal or was it all contact`s to star beings ? I can not tell.

As far as I remember I did not see any extraterrestials with my own eyes, at the penultimate incident or my memory is blocked....part of my memory is missing. But I remember floating through Space and I did look down to earth and could feel the harmony and peace which was surrounding me. All worries and problems did vanish and did seem to have no importance anymore at this moment. I remember this thought came to my mind. I thought then..this is more than a dream. When I woke up in the morning, I had marks on both of my feet, which did proof to me...something really was happing with me that night.

It was very beautiful....I wont ever forget.

One time as a young child I remember I did have contact to, I believe, one star being. It was while playing in a forest together with my childhood friend. We did meet a "man in black". My friend did run away, but I stayed and talked to the "man in black" shortly. He did not look like a real human to me.....which I told him. His skin was very pale. We only talked shortly then I got a bit scared and did run away. I reached home safe....but hours later....and I still can not remember the hours missing in between.

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But I see all of my expiriences as something positiv and part of growing spiritually. :flower:

[Seabreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjsNS6MePxs 2014
6 min. video

[Seabreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kOq-rLOg6E

[Seabreeze]

https://www.spaceforce.mil/About-Us/...Force/Mission/ :(

[EFO]

https://www.spaceforce.mil/About-Us/...Force/Mission/ :(

"HOME 404 ERROR PAGE
PAGE CANNOT BE FOUND
Sorry, the page you are looking for cannot be found and might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. It is recommended that you start again from the homepage. Feel free to contact us if the problem persists or if you cannot find what you’re looking for."

[Ti]

https://www.spaceforce.mil/About-Us/...Force/Mission/ :(

"HOME 404 ERROR PAGE
PAGE CANNOT BE FOUND
Sorry, the page you are looking for cannot be found and might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. It is recommended that you start again from the homepage. Feel free to contact us if the problem persists or if you cannot find what you’re looking for."

It appears that this page is what they intended to link. https://www.spaceforce.mil/About-Us/About-Space-Force/Mission/

[Savannah]

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I have not researched Delores Cannon very much. Did she say anything more about what the missions of these people might be?

Also, do we know how many different races are doing the abductions?

I am asking these questions to try to help me with my own experiences. In my experience which I described in this thread, there were no greys. But most abduction related accounts from people include greys.

Dolores did talk about severall Extraterrestrials in connection with abductions. She wrote books about it. I found this here in the net, I hope it answers some of your questions :

February 18, 2013 by Julia Cannon (daughter of Dolores Cannon)

Many investigators of the phenomenon of UFOs only study sightings and try to obtain physical evidence of the crafts having visited Earth, such as landing marks or radiation. Other investigators confine their research to abductions. I have moved beyond these subjects to investigate the bigger picture encompassing the spiritual implications of UFOs: the story of whom we are, where we came from and where we are going.

When investigating UFOs and abductions, many researchers believe the Extraterrestrials involved appear to be conducting some type of genetic manipulation of human beings, with or without our consent. My research has revealed that these aliens are not acting out of clinical or selfish motives, but are carrying out the orders of a higher authority.

One analogy I have used to describe visitations by UFOs and the abductions of humans is that it is akin to a child being treated in a crowded hospital. The child is frightened by the hospital’s clinical setting and the tests being conducted. As adults, we have some understanding of the reason why the child needs to be examined and treated, but to them the busy doctors and staff may seem unemotional and uncaring. It is nearly impossible for us to explain the totality of the circumstances to the child.

In many of the cases I’ve studied concerning UFOs, the aliens described by my subjects display a similar attitude, as though they are dealing with a child or a person of limited intelligence who wouldn’t understand the process even if it were explained to them. Some abductees react as our children might, by protesting that the aliens have no right to treat them this way, without their permission or even trying to explain what is happening.

Some researchers of UFOs and alien abductions dramatically theorize these otherworldly beings abduct humans to take their genetic material for experiments to save their own dying race from extinction by clinically producing alien-human hybrids.

My theory about UFOs and abductions is markedly different. I am told the vast majority of aliens visiting the Earth are not here for their own purposes – but for ours. While there may be some renegade beings engaged on Earth for their own benefit, they are in the minority, operating outside the grand, higher plan for Earth and humanity. The aliens and entities I communicate with are studying us and evolving our DNA for a higher purpose.

As I have written many times before about UFOs and the alien connection to mankind, the Earth was seeded with life many eons ago. Highly advanced and intelligent beings carried out the Creator or God’s master plan to spread life to as many worlds as possible throughout all the universes, in order for Source to have infinite experiences of itself.

UFOs and Extraterrestrials from many worlds are only continuing the work they were assigned to do when life on Earth was conceived: to monitor and care for God’s creation.

Dolores Cannon

source : https://dolorescannon.com/ufos-abductions-bigger-picture/

I channeled a book from the Tall Grays in 2012 and Delores wanted to publish it. She asked me to work on part II, because I had already self published part I. It's here :
https://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Change-Enlightenment-Savannah-Henninger/dp/1452578826/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=savannah+henninger&qid=1607790719&sr=8-1.

However Delores died when I was working on part II and her daughter Julia was in control of the publishing Co. It was 2014 and I was becoming more aware of the abduction/UFO contact info. I was realizing their were dissenting opinions and we may not be able to believe and trust what was going on. I told Julia I wanted to change the format of part two and write an analysis of the contact and provide another opinion. She became immediately hostile and refused to publish the book. So my point here is that censorship of alterative ideas is out there and in this case I feel it was because positive alien's sells books. It also justifies ones continued contact with them and wanting to publish information about them. If ET equaled SATAN or CIA it would not sell too well. Lastly, and I'm not saying this has anything to do with Ozark, but the New Age movement appears to have been stared to push Operation Blue Beam. The public needed to be awoken to the concept of space travel and ET's and all things spiritual. You may think that's nonsense but there is a lot of supporting evidence for that I wont go into here.

If you have read Delores's books you will know what I'm talking about when she mentions the "self conscious". When the subject was under hypnosis she would "call in the self conscious" and that aspect was all knowing. It seemed independent of the person and possibly an entity or electronic voice to skull technology. It was to me filtering and providing what it wanted the public to hear. So I think it's possible that those in control either human, ET or both started and controlled the publics knowledge of ET's for their own benefit. They wanted us to "believe" and see ET as both friend and foe because they were going to use both sides of that as they use duality on Earth. They wanted their narrative to predominate before we naturally awaked due the Yuga cycle. I think the following video is interesting:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFfdjGAoNNs