James Horak take on the recent interview with 'Charles' [Archive]

Eric J (Viking)

8th January 2011, 13:19

Well this interview really has gone big...further feedback with this 'Charles' chap and veiwpoints...

Excellent feedback from Horak giving his view on 'Charles'

James Horak & Torz discuss Bill Ryans Interview with Charles

'THE RULERS OF THE WORLD: a new Project Avalon video interview'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNnZSx6JWss&feature=player_embedded

viking

Zook

8th January 2011, 15:37

Good Morning Good Vikes ... the Earth says hello!

Well this interview really has gone big...further feedback with this 'Charles' chap and veiwpoints...
Excellent feedback from Horak giving his view on 'Charles'
James Horak & Torz discuss Bill Ryans Interview with Charles
'THE RULERS OF THE WORLD: a new Project Avalon video interview'
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viking

Excellent video!!!

James Horak speaks for me. We see the Charles interview through eerily identifical filters! Separated cosmic twins?? LOL!

IMHO, this video is much more informative than the Charles interview (wrt the world's state of being); granted, the Charles video remains a prerequisite to understanding Horak's arguments and perspective (which I endorse 100%). It's as if I was at a casino yanking the one good arm of a 100-eyed bandit ...
and all eyes came up cherries!

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000

8th January 2011, 16:52

Just this morning I was having thoughts about what James Horak's views on this interview might be, out of curiosity, because of his feelings on EMVs and their role in the big picture. Stumbled on this thread soon after, how uncanny!

Listening to this now, will post my distilled feelings afterward via editing this post.

/EDIT

Distilled: As with Zook, all eyes come up cherries for me too. I resonate highly with what Horak is saying in this discussion. I feel 100% the same with the exception where he talks about 'adepts' abandoning Earth to some degree. I feel much differently there, that there are still many here, just as Dolores Cannon speaks about (if 'adepts' are similar or the same to 'volunteers'). This very community, Avalon, is an excellent example ;)

/EDIT2

Just for clarification on James' use of the term 'punk' in this discussion, I believe he is using this in the old usage of the word (the 'Clint Eastwood' usage as it were) and *not* punk as it relates to punk rock (the music and the culture). So if there are any fellow crusties/oi/hardcore etc on this forum, I advise not taking offense to his using the word as it is in a different context.

Eric J (Viking)

8th January 2011, 20:48

Cheers Zooks ... Erra says hello!! ha ha ...

Yes I thought it was excellent feedback from James...also Torz did a good job asking the questions...

I must say after various research I would say that 'Charles' is genuine ... although I believe he bluffed his way through a couple of questions and very cleverly avoided...also thats not see to say I agree with the bastards that have been culling the population and what they have planned for us....well, what they think they have planned!!! Anyway we will see... He does need to be interviewed again with some targeted questions from us...we'll see

viking

BrianEn

8th January 2011, 22:38

Pretty interesting. I watch the vid twice and book marked his youtube page. I never heard of him before this.

greybeard

9th January 2011, 13:59

Am downloading the video Thanks Chris

GK76

9th January 2011, 17:51

Pretty interesting. I watch the vid twice and book marked his youtube page. I never heard of him before this.

Yeah, I'm surprised this is the first I've heard of him, just looked at some of his other work too. The first impression is he is knowledgeable and succinct and not scared to lock horns with TPTB. Nice video response, assuming they are monitoring Avalon still... a big thanks to them both. :)

Snowbird

9th January 2011, 18:44

This was an excellent interview. The most important, IMO, question/answer was at the very end.

They, like everyone else on this planet, have the opportunity, just like Charles, to turn from their controlling methods toward genuine support of humanity as a whole....not their whole, but thee whole. :thumb:

torzbc

9th January 2011, 18:56

Viking... Thank-you for posting this. I had no idea you would and I know it has raised a few eyebrows with some powerful people. We tried to be as balanced as we could, taking into consideration many eventualities. However, the core message remains the same. I feel it is imperative that people know that we only EVER want to do good for the whole and that I not be seen as a threat to anyone who is on the side of truth, honesty and eventual peace for mankind. I am encouraged by the positive replies from other members too and want to thank them for their feedback.

I am not naive enough to deny any acknowledgement that through my association with James, my every move is monitored by many Government agencies......

Please feel free to browse my blog, where you will find more information about James and the objects currently around the Sun that I have put together over the last year..
http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/

AlkaMyst

10th January 2011, 00:49

Thanks Viking, GREAT INTERVIEW!!!

I also found this other interview regarding the "Charles" issue on youtube, the radio show is called "Universal Truth Evolution" and this guys have some very interesting things to say about this "Charles" character......BE ADVISED!!! There's some EXPLICIT LANGUAGE on this interview!!!

It seems that this interview has sparked a lot of talk off over the planet and most people are having the same impression about this guy, which is that "He's Telling The Truth" for one....but that he may also in fact is going to do what he said he was going to do and that's "Deal with Bill". My personal opinion in all of this is quite mix and that is the reason why I choose not to publicly say anything at the moment, but I have the intent on writing a personal public letter to "Charles and His 33" believe me I will not stay quite on this, but at the moment I haven't collected myself enough to express the right words without hurting any feelings or crossing any lines. But "Charles".....hear me out "My Personal Response is COMING!!!

Part-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGilZMbTTTY&feature=related

Part-2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8yrmX4xx30

Part-3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8XBgkICj90

Here are the rest of the videos:

Part-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xocG-ZuutM

Part-5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed51nKwPIHQ

Part-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz7dBgACRuY

Part-7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdUFSbHCCc

Part-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOmkCSU39B0

Part-9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwBO7riDLw

kevlor

10th January 2011, 03:10

bill was right. this is disclosure. to me so much was confirmed, so much more was revealed, so many more people are now exposing themselves to these possibilities ... kev

Eric J (Viking)

10th January 2011, 10:09

Thanks Torz...

Hey Alka I'm sure I posted those vids elsewhere...no worries...

Anyway thought I'd bump this for those who haven't watched this vid...

viking

Anchor

10th January 2011, 11:40

What is he on about with the Helium and its place on the periodic table?

Lita

10th January 2011, 15:10

Thank you for that vid.. excellent.

ThePythonicCow

10th January 2011, 15:31

What is he on about with the Helium and its place on the periodic table?

Good question. The "helium" thing made no sense to me. So far as I know, helium is simply the second element, with two protons, usually formed by stars fusing hydrogen (one proton.) The atomic and inorganic chemical properties of helium are not in doubt, to the best of my knowledge, and its position on the Periodic Table is entirely appropriate.

It is common for pseudo science (such as misunderstandings of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle) and pseudo math (such as misunderstandings of Godel's Incompleteness results) to be used to give apparent scientific weight to claims that are at best related only metaphorically, not by valid science or mathematics.

This helium discussion sure sounded like another such abuse of science.

Snowbird

10th January 2011, 16:09

I am encouraged by the positive replies from other members too and want to thank them for their feedback.

I am not naive enough to deny any acknowledgement that through my association with James, my every move is monitored by many Government agencies......

Please feel free to browse my blog, where you will find more information about James and the objects currently around the Sun that I have put together over the last year..
http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/

torz, I first want to thank you for this extremely important interview. I learned a great deal from both you and James. I listened to it yesterday and am seriously thinking of returning today for a second listen.

May I kindly request that when interviewing, you sit back a little further from the microphone. We want to hear clearly what you have to say.

Thank you again! :yes4:

ThePythonicCow

10th January 2011, 17:16

May I kindly request that when interviewing, you sit back a little further from the microphone.Was he too close to the mic, or was he using an omnidirectional mic? I'm half deaf, so a poor witness on this matter, but I thought I was hearing too much reverb from adjacent hard walls, which can be remedied by using a quality directional mic closer to the speaker.

torzbc

11th January 2011, 12:00

Avalon members, my sincere apologies... I had planned on answering many questions,, unfortunately I have got some serious personal matters that need my immediate attention and full concentration.

LiveFree

17th January 2011, 03:07

Thank you for posting this information. I've never heard of this gentleman before but I found him to be very interesting. Will have to look him up for more info. :)

arctourist

17th January 2011, 04:10

Good question. The "helium" thing made no sense to me. So far as I know, helium is simply the second element, with two protons, usually formed by stars fusing hydrogen (one proton.) The atomic and inorganic chemical properties of helium are not in doubt, to the best of my knowledge, and its position on the Periodic Table is entirely appropriate.

It is common for pseudo science (such as misunderstandings of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle) and pseudo math (such as misunderstandings of Godel's Incompleteness results) to be used to give apparent scientific weight to claims that are at best related only metaphorically, not by valid science or mathematics.

This helium discussion sure sounded like another such abuse of science.

well ,to me,abuse of science is like....the atomic bomb! like...water fluoridation...!
it is inexcusable for dentists to believe that flouride is anything but poison... much worse yet,many of them know better,yet still wilfully poison their customers....that's abuse of science-that's a crime against humanity!
anyways-helium might be more than what it appears to be-i guess we need a few honest scientists-are there any,i wonder!

arctourist

17th January 2011, 04:14

Avalon members, my sincere apologies... I had planned on answering many questions,, unfortunately I have got some serious personal matters that need my immediate attention and full concentration.

thanks-hope everything's okay...
we would love for james to join the forum-and i would love to get bill or kerry to interview you both-
in any case,this forum gets better every day doesn't it!

Fractalius

17th January 2011, 07:00

Through merely existing in this world, we all create the perfect obstacles for learning the perfect lesson that is tailored specifically to eventually bringing the traveller home.
It can have many surprises. But when it happens, it wont seem so surprising after all.

str8thinker

17th January 2011, 07:54

Anchor

17th January 2011, 08:21

I noticed when I played the video on YT a banner said the video was unlisted (meaning you need the link to view it)

torzbc

17th January 2011, 08:38

When I did a YouTube search today for the Horak-Torz interview using exactly the same search term as the YouTube title, namely James Horak & Torz discuss Bill Ryans Interview with Charles, YouTube found nothing. Is Google trying to suppress its existence? I tried breaking up the search into "James Horak" Torz Bill Charles, but still nothing. Hmmmm.
Hi Str8thinker... The Video's are not public as Youtube won't allow them because they are too long. So we upload them privately and then are able to link to them from my blog... :)
We have just posted two more video's "Insights from an Outsider".. more sane and truthful words from James.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IsgsMJ1u0
You can also listen to the video's from the blog: http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/
or click on the video on the blog and it will take you to the private Youtube link on OmetaOne's account.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IsgsMJ1u0
Thanks for the well wishes guys... My partner left me and my world just collapsed obviously... however, things have worked out for the better and we have both come to terms with what we knew was coming but were too scared to admit to each other.... sometimes these things happen for a reason, although I am very suspicious of the abrupt timing and our reply to the Charles video.... something stinks....

ThePythonicCow

17th January 2011, 19:52

well ,to me,abuse of science is like....the atomic bomb! like...water fluoridation...!I think you are using "abuse of science" in a different way than I was. I was talking more of a rhetorical abuse, where one uses scientific sounding mumbo-jumbo to persuade someone not sufficiently knowledgeable in such science of certain unscientific claims. It need not be to poison them or kill them; it might just be to claim some sort of expertise or authority for your views.

ThePythonicCow

17th January 2011, 20:06

more sane and truthful words from James. The Youtube video link following the above quoted words is borked (two http's in one link, goes nowhere ...) Apparently you intended to embed the Youtube video that can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IsgsMJ1u0

The Youtube video at that link does have a banner announcing "This video is unlisted. Only those with the link can see it." This doesn't prevent viewing it. It just means that you cannot find this video using any search or index on Youtube. You can only access it via the direct link I just gave above. Here is the same link, embedded:

b9IsgsMJ1u0
I provided a direct link above, and also embedded above using the direct link. No need to go via another website or blog.

arctourist

18th January 2011, 02:38

well ! james horak is one smart old guy-i like him! i would,if i could,ask him to elaborate a little more about helium,for one thing-that was very interesting-he's just full of knowledge isn't he! torz,i hope you can do more video interviews with him soon! he makes a lot of people his age and younger look like simpletons-haha-
thes emv's are quite incredible too....thanks to james-i wish he'd aso join this forum-or maybe the camelot forum would be more open to his vast knowledge-
cheers from michigan!

Carmody

18th January 2011, 03:19

Good question. The "helium" thing made no sense to me. So far as I know, helium is simply the second element, with two protons, usually formed by stars fusing hydrogen (one proton.) The atomic and inorganic chemical properties of helium are not in doubt, to the best of my knowledge, and its position on the Periodic Table is entirely appropriate.

It is common for pseudo science (such as misunderstandings of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle) and pseudo math (such as misunderstandings of Godel's Incompleteness results) to be used to give apparent scientific weight to claims that are at best related only metaphorically, not by valid science or mathematics.

This helium discussion sure sounded like another such abuse of science.

The only thing, that I can suss out... that crosses dimensions..is information. Information encoded as oscillation and/or vibration. Under that premise anything can be manipulated through resonance, for the elements indeed have equilibrium through resonance patterns. Holographic electric universe. Potential, field potential. As Tesla understood it. Not gravity, but potential. Resonance. I'm trying to link to a very interesting article on helium (IIRC) that just came up on the pyhsorg.com site but I'm being blocked from posting right now.

Helvetic

26th February 2011, 09:31

Source: emvsinfo.blogspot.com (http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8HpiOqc_SI

James Horak and Angeltorz in an online conversation. Only some of the Keywords are: the EMVs, the Soul, Death, Earth, Sun, Jupiter, the NWO, ET, Eisenhower, Gulf, Corexit, Oil, Sinkholes, Jupiter, Spirituality, Sitchin, Hoagland and more that just makes sense! Comments and questions are welcome on our blog:
emvsinfo.blogspot.com (http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com)

noxon medem

26th February 2011, 10:24

Hello, Helvetic.
Excellent media of choice there.

I have been listening to him for the last days.
Found similar to above posted videolecture on another thread,
- some few days ago (post 25)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10759-James-Horak-take-on-the-recent-interview-with-Charles

Starting point there is different, and am just pointing this out.
This definately deserve a thread of its own.

Also on the tube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p42NfpZARk&feature=related
- same conversation part 1.
A lot of interesting videos to find.

:)
nm

the trojan

2nd March 2011, 00:32

that was very entertaining.
the man has insight and courage.
and the more he talked ,the more i wanted to hear.

slipknotted

2nd March 2011, 00:54

horak has tons of info and to me he speaks truth and is not afraid to let it all hang out, most if not all people who knows the truth on subjects hold back info and im sick of big known names in this field not coming forth with all the key info and i dont get it, its like they want to control the info. the time is now, we are running out of time. we need to get are **** together and awake the mass's and take back are right's as a human race, charle's needed 18 well what does that tell us ? we all need to join together, imagine what that would be like with thousands or millions of people, we could win big for are planet "mother earth" and be the being's we were ment to be before the 33, we should be as a race the TPTB !

RAKMEiSTER

2nd March 2011, 02:58

James Horak & Shunyananda - Insights from an Outsider - 4 - Jan.23.2011 (http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/2011/01/james-horak-shunyananda-insights-from.html)

Here is the next of the Private Conversations for the Public with James Horak, as always with mindblowing perspectives on ETs, EBEs, Space Eggs, the Sun and the EMVs, the Soul and last but not least: James Horak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uFOg75i_9Y&feature=player_embedded

:plane:
more info also @ his site:
http://www.om-page.de/james_horak.html
http://www.om-page.de/EMVs.html
http://www.om-page.de/EMVs.html#Anchor-oben
http://www.om-page.de/james_horak.html
http://www.om-page.de/Media/Soundbites/03-Feedback_with_EMVs.html

torzbc

2nd March 2011, 09:34