Avalon - The gathering of 33 Bloodlines...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Doctors are paid by Pharma's to prescribe their medicines...

The more pills each patient takes, the more they make...

ever notice how people with good insurance and money are sick and always going to the doctor?

and yet those without money or good insurance to pay for a pile of meds aren't sick?

doesn't that tell you a little about Doctor's priorities?

prescribing $1000-1500/mo to each patient adds up fast, plus doctor visits...

The way to lower health care cost isn't by cutting funding, it is by using doctors interested in healing illnesses, not milking them...

[thunder24]

Until regulations are tougher on Doctor's for their malpractice, this will continue. I know of maybe one, and he's a dentist, that actually heal, and make it as least painful as possible.

Another problem with Doctor's is their own abuse of prescription meds, like pain killers. In rural areas and I assume in big cities, they take their own meds, and prescribe "high Octane" pain killers to all ages.

I know a lady who is prescribed this synthetic herion, she's 82. She has three caretakers for a 24 hour period, and two of them share her meds with her. There is way to much abuse and addiction to these medicines, that if real help/health centers are not setup to help them get off of these, then your gonna have a great percentage of the nation going through withdrawels and a great number kicking the bucket cause they are so old and can't take it.

Healthcare is a joke in the United States, yet we have some of the brightest. Big pharma being one rung in the ladder, these companies need to be reigned in. Listening to Inelia's interview last night I appreciated her view on clemency for people, but I don't believe these CEO's and down care anything about the people taking their meds, bottom line PROFIT.

These elderly retired people, usually have a set level of expenses for a month. I don't know many that can afford to get sick because of these prices Rocky_Shorz, this is a culling takeing place in the name of Help/health. This ties back in to the State Banks plan.

If we can reach the Universities and minds of the kids going there early, teach them true ethics in practice, no-nonsense banking methods, and the science of compounding then as a whole WE can be healed of OUR apathy and indifference for anything and anybody other than ourselves.
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

Back to the middle east...

Hamas and Hezbollah WAKE UP!!!

you are about to be pinned with Chemical and Nerve WMD, the media engine is firing up to turn the public attention your way, their goal is war...


Libyan rebels sold Hezbollah and Hamas chemical shells

Senior Libyan rebel “officers” sold Hezbollah and Hamas thousands of chemical shells from the stocks of mustard and nerve gas that fell into rebel hands when they overran Muammar Qaddafi’s military facilities in and around Benghazi, debkafile’s exclusive military and intelligence sources report.

Word of the capture touched off a scramble in Tehran and among the terrorist groups it sponsors to get hold of their first unconventional weapons.

According to our sources, the rebels offloaded at least 2,000 artillery shells carrying mustard gas and 1,200 nerve gas shells for cash payment amounting to several million dollars.

US and Israeli intelligence agencies have tracked the WMD consignments from eastern Libya as far as Sudan in convoys secured by Iranian agents and Hezbollah and Hamas guards. They are not believed to have reached their destinations in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, apparently waiting for an opportunity to get their deadly freights through without the US or Israel attacking and destroying them... absurd report (http://www.theabsurdreport.com/2011/libyan-rebels-sold-hizballah-and-hamas-chemical-shells/)



The group set a deadline of Friday evening, but Arrigoni’s body was found by Hamas police well short of that, Hamas officials said. They said they had arrested two suspects and were searching for a third. Hamas said it "condemns the heinous crime that does not reflect our values, our religion or our custom and tradition," according to an Interior Ministry statement released to Palestinian news media.

But the kidnapping raised questions about Hamas' control over Gaza, and it represents the latest example of how smaller, more radical groups in the territory -– some with alleged ties to Al Qaeda -– are challenging the rule of Hamas, which itself is viewed by Israel and the United States as a terrorist organization.Those groups complain that Hamas has become too moderate.

Hamas, which has ruled Gaza since 2007, has been cracking down on Islamist Salafists over the last 18 months, arresting their members and killing one of their spiritual leaders during an armed clash in August 2009...

link (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/04/gaza-strip-kidnapped-italian-activist-found-dead-hamas-blames-rival-radical-group.html)



This is complete - and fatal - nonsense. Hamas really is this and that, but it is the only government in Gaza. We tried to bring it down and as a result it grew stronger. Moreover, secret WikiLeaks documents recently published reveal that a senior Israeli defense official told an American diplomat Israel is interested in maintaining Hamas' rule in Gaza in the short term, because any alternative reign would be worse.

If so, what is this bloody game for? Why continue bluffing the Israeli public when the solution is simple? Israel must recognize Hamas' government in Gaza de facto, as an existing reality. Israel must negotiate with the existing government over practical matters that require an arrangement.

There is no point in achieving another fuzzy tahadia (calm ), with the help of another shadowy third party, with no details and no official agreement. We need an official cease fire, fixed in a written document, setting procedures to sort out complaints. We need an agreed, manifest, reliable third party to supervise this process.

Israel's entire approach to the Gaza Strip is anachronistic. The blockade, intended to persuade the population to topple the Hamas government, failed and has turned into a stumbling-block. We must cut ourselves off from Gaza once and for all, and this means allowing Gaza to open itself in all the other directions - opening the Gaza port, airport and border with Egypt.

Israel has proved it can prevent bringing in weapons in other more effective ways. This also pertains to the next flotilla barreling our way. Let it sail in peace wheresoever it may.

This is common sense. Former Mossad chief Efraim Halevy also hinted as much. Anything else is stupid, childish, one-upmanship games - he started, let him stop first, and the like. To put it simply - fatal stupidity...
story link (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/israel-must-recognize-hamas-government-in-gaza-1.355882)


At a recent Palestine Center briefing, Nadia Hijab, senior fellow and co-director of the Washington office of the Institute for Palestine Studies, argued that the core principle behind Hamas' resistance is the deprivation of basic human rights to the Palestinian people. She said recent changes within Hamas represent a challenge to Israel because they indicate that Hamas wants to seek peace with Israel...
full story worth reading... (http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/ht/d/ContentDetails/i/2627)

now we in the alternate media have a responsibility...

We can jump up and down fueling the insanity, or we can start sharing truths of what is really going on...

How these Chemical shells were moved out to prevent them from being used in Libya on Libya... Which should be seen by the public as a good thing but now suddenly they are turning Libya's Freedom fighters into monsters... in the middle east wars are wars, and heads roll. That is a common punishment under Sharia law...

Syria had all of Saddam's WMD sent to them, it isn't like they haven't had these weapons all along for Hezbollah and Hamas to use but guess what...

they didn't...


Hamas,

do what Israel never expected you to do...

accept them, and move forward with a Palestinian State...

NOW, is the time...


Hezbollah, when I delivered the first message from the last book of the bible, Revelation, it was to share with all of you a message that was given by one of God's Prophets. you are the Church of Sardis(Saudis)

Take off your Ninja outfit and bury it with your rifles, time to wear white for all who understand the truths of Islam...

WAKE UP!!!

Listen...

Islam means Will of God...

The Will of God is peace...

the wisdom I am to pass to Islam is beware the Black Sheep, do not allow them into your lands to bring destruction down on your people...

If a Cleric in white is heard spreading hatred, defrock them to wear black and require them to join Islamic universities to understand the peaceful truths...


The public needs to know which are militants at a glance so they have the choice on whether to listen...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I understand you are trying...


NCRI - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has told AFP in an exclusive interview on Friday that the Iranian regime has ordered Hamas not to reconcile with his secular party Fatah.

The Palestinian leader was quoted as saying, "Iran instructs them to do this or to do that, not to do this or not to do that because they are paid... and for this... they obey their instructions."

AFP added that Abbas said Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal, who lives in exile in Syria, "receives the money, keeps the money in his pocket and gives it to whom he wants, keeps it from whom he doesn't want...

link (http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/terrorism-a-fundamentalism/10341-the-iranian-regime-impedes-reconciliation-among-palestinians-abbas)

snap out of it or this is all you'll end up with...

http://www.tdbimg.com/files/2008/12/28/img-cs---khaled-meshaal-397_11410574495.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

Marilyn Davenport you have been added to my April Fools list...


Marilyn Davenport, an elected Orange County Republican Party official and Tea Party activist, spoke out for the first time since she sent an email to friends that depicted President Barack Obama and his parents as chimpanzees.

Her comments came after a local Republican Party chairman called for her resignation and for an ethics investigation into the incident.

Late Monday Davenport issued a statement via email asking for the country’s forgiveness:

"To my fellow Americans and to everyone else who has seen this email I forwarded and was offended by my action, I humbly apologize and ask for your forgiveness of my unwise behavior. I say unwise because at the time I received and forwarded the email, I didn't stop to think about the historic implications and other examples of how this could be offensive... news link (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/politics/120175899.html)

don't politicians know yet they can't keep spilling lies to the American Public?

http://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/President_Obama_Monkeys-300x213.jpg

Orange County California’s GOP central committee member Marilyn Davenport sent an email which depicted President Obama and his parents as monkeys. The caption? “Now you know why–no birth certificate!” link (http://www.politicususa.com/en/california-tea-party-activist-portrays-president-obama-as-a-monkey)

We the people of California say you aren't forgiven and need to step down...


want to see what happens when I call for a V Party gathering on your doorstep?


You and other tea party members should be ashamed of disgracing American History with your actions.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hamas agrees to an Arab state’s offer to sponsor national unity talks...


DAMASCUS, (PIC)– Hamas politburo member Izzat al-Resheq has said that Hamas has agreed to ask an Arab state to host and broker Palestinian national reconciliation talks, but he said that state has yet to receive Abbas’s approval...


Resheq expressed regret over Abbas’s continued verbal onslaught targeting Hamas.

”Abbas’s recent statements to the AFP attacking Hamas and launching a slander campaign do not help clear the atmosphere for reconciliation, and they contradict entirely with rumors spread by one Fatah official that Abbas had instructed to stop media incitement campaigns against Hamas,” Resheq said. ”Here is Abbas himself the first to launch a media incitement campaign against Hamas just two days later.”
link (http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/hamas-agrees-to-an-arab-state%E2%80%99s-offer-to-sponsor-national-unity-talks/)

Hamas your goal was to see the flag of Allah over the Holy lands, understanding there is only one God will confirm your charter succeeded.

you get the Dome, they get a few extra settlements...

get moving before a full blown war is started to derail the process...

[Rocky_Shorz]

now President Obama you already know the Tea party is not going to raise the cap without a fight so let me point out something Republicans don't want the people to know, why there is so much birther bickering... all a distraction from what we need to concentrate on...


Banks Still Earning Interest on $1 Trillion Reserves Thanks to Federal Reserve
The nation’s largest financial institutions continue to sit on more than $1 trillion in excess reserves, a fact that has stymied economic growth during the recovery and that now poses a serious dilemma for the Federal Reserve. These are reserves beyond those that the financial institutions are required to hold.

It was the Fed that allowed banks to accumulate such an enormous amount of money, after loaning hundreds of billions of dollars at near zero interest rates to teetering institutions during the financial crisis. The public was told that this was necessary so that the banks could start lending, but instead of lending, they kept the bulk of the money. On September 1, 2008, the banks’ excess reserves totaled $1.9 billion. By February 2, 2011, their hoard had grown to $1.2 trillion. And, since October 2008, the banks have been allowed to collect interest on the excess reserves. At a rate of 0.25%, they gained $2.7 billion from taxpayers in 2010.

it ain't right... (http://www.plaintruth.com/the_plain_truth/2011/03/banks-still-earning-interest-on-1-trillion-reserves-thanks-to-federal-reserve.html)

Pay the Federal Reserve back what the banks are holding to lower the US Debt...

Have the Treasury take that 1.2 Trillion and open the state banks to get people back to work...

[Rocky_Shorz]

momentum is building...


Israeli intellectuals support Palestinian state declaration


Tel Aviv - Dozens of Israeli intellectuals have expressed support for the declaration of a Palestinian state along 1967 borders as they start a campaign to build support for the move.

Israel captured the West Bank from Jordan and the Gaza Strip from Egypt in the Six-Day war of that year.

In a signed document, the group wrote that 'the total end of the occupation' of those territories is fundamental for the liberation of both the Palestinian and the Jewish people.

The signatories include 17 Israel Prize winners, the country's top civil honour given for outstanding achievement in fields such as education, history and science.

'We call on everyone who seeks peace and freedom for all peoples to support the declaration of Palestinian statehood,' says the statement.

The group plans a Thursday afternoon protest in front of Independence Hall, the central Tel Aviv building where the country's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, declared Israel's statehood in 1948...

full story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-peace-plan-20110419,0,2928506.story)


Moderate members of Netanyahu's Likud Party are urging the prime minister to seize the moment by offering a fresh approach.

"We should take an initiative," said Intelligence Minister Dan Meridor. "Time passing is not helping."

President Obama has said he wants to welcome a Palestinian state into the U.N. in September. Not coincidentally, that's also when the Palestinians are promising to take their statehood bid to the U.N. General Assembly, which most predict will approve it...
link (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-peace-plan-20110419,0,2928506.story)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Iran, did you ever notice how close Tehran is to the 33rd degree?

Magnitude IIII.0
Date-Time [UTC]: 21 April, 2011 at 21:23:41 UTC
Local Date/Time: Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 21:23 in the evening at epicenter
Location: 33° 33.000, 52° 23.400
Depth: 2 km (1.24 miles)
link (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/read/index.php?pageid=seism_read&rid=195927)

did you notice the message on the 18th in this thread at :33? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10845-Avalon-The-gathering-of-33-Bloodlines...&p=200090&viewfull=1#post200090)

3 days ago...


LISTEN...


there are no coincidences...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Now as the cap moves closer and prices of oil are pushing high enough to break the economic recovery...

We need to look back at what President Bush did...


The Bush administration said it would consider lending oil from the nation's emergency stockpile to refiners...8/2005 (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2005-08-28-oil-katrina_x.htm)

What does Lend mean?


The last three years have seen rapidly rising oil prices, and a tight oil market has meant that even small increases in demand have had large price impacts. During this period the Bush administration purposely expanded inventories of the strategic oil reserve, which rose from 600 million barrels in May 2003 to 700 million barrels in August 2005. The administration therefore increased demand by 125,000 barrels per day, and oil prices rose from 30 dollars per barrel to 70 dollars.

As oil prices rose, Wall Street became increasingly engaged in commodity speculation (the destructive effects of which is a story for another day), and this is where storage matters. As speculators entered the market the spot price of crude oil rose above the futures price. However, buying spot oil means taking delivery, which requires storage capacity. By adding to the strategic reserve, the administration not only increased oil demand but also increased storage capacity because the oil it bought was stored in the strategic reserve’s caverns. That helped speculators by adding storage capacity vital for cornering the market...


Congress must investigate the strategic oil reserve, how it has been managed and what its purpose is. The recently announced expansion serves no real national security function (though that will be the justification) and will only drive up oil prices and add to the budget deficit and national debt.

One last factoid. A recent IMF study documented that oil prices in the U.S. appear to be politically manipulated, falling prior to elections—as they did in 2002, 2004 and 2006. If you are an economist you ask how that is done. The answer is the strategic oil reserve... story link (http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/01/26/manipulating_the_oil_reserve.php)

now everyone knows where I am going with this...

when we hit the cap, take the $1.2 Trillion from Bankers after you sell enough oil reserves to lower prices, then buy again when they are lower... imagine making money for taxpayers instead of losing it, what a concept... ;)

refineries running at 15% production is unacceptable...

if you are creating a commission to get down to the corruption on gas prices it goes beyond the bankers...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Texas... 3 days of rain... He says you are welcome... ;)

Happy Easter Everyone!!!

[Rocky_Shorz]

NCRI - Government run Fars news agency reported on April 21 that Naqdi, the criminal commander of the paramilitary Basij Force, expressed his fear of people’s uprising against the clerical dictatorship and warned that the next crisis will be far more complex and deeper than the 2009 crisis.

According to government controlled media, speaking at a meeting of a number of Basij functionaries, Naqdi said:

“…The 2009 crisis that the enemy had planned for a few decades, was a difficult test… However, we must know that the fabric and structure of next crises will be different from what we saw in 2009. But in the next crisis, the situation will be quite murky and it will be very difficult to distinguish the right from the wrong…”
story link (http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-protests/10400-basij-commander-next-crisis-much-more-complex)

it won't be difficult for those of us watching...

wrong are the ones who are gunning down innocent peaceful protesters...

wrong are the ones who are hanging those who disagree with a brutal government...

for 7 years, I have held back God's hand from crushing Tehran for several reasons, most importantly I see hope in the people, my people...

when you took a piece of my lands and made it part of your country, you made your country, mine...

I don't want to be a part of politics, but I will quietly guide everyone forward...

God had Mohammad tell you to listen to the teachings of King David for a reason...


he knew I was coming... ;)

[thunder24]

I ask this humbly. With the situation as it is now, are you going to be able to stay out of politics?
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

well I can only speak for today here and now...

by being part of politics anywhere would make enemies, that isn't my goal...


Just sharing truths is making enough of those... ;)

[thunder24]

Iran has been hit with new malicious software as part of cyber attacks against the country, a military officer told Mehr news agency on Monday without specifying the target.
"Certain characteristics about the 'Stars' virus have been identified, including that it is compatible with the (targeted) system," Gholam Reza Jalali, commander of the Iranian civil defence organisation, told the agency

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.52b1c572200691378e42eaf823edf1d3.4e1&show_article=1

somebody wants them to stop doing something
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

Mullah Khatami: Blood must be shed to solve the dilemma of un-Islamic women clothing...

http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/images/stories/2010/regime/ahmad_khatami.jpg

can you imagine how happy this guy would be for me to step in and change all of their laws with a stroke of a pen...

I think one of the Cruelest things RA did to Muslims was prevent them from knowing a Dog...

the unconditional love of a Dog, is the closest thing in this world to God's love...

always happy when you come home, there when you are feeling down to cheer you up... They pour out all of their love without a second thought to everyone, all they want back is a smile.

You can't spell God without D.O.G...

They have a $5000 fine for bringing your Dog out in public...

strike that one from the books...

do you really think Iranians would want a leader that wants to move them into a 1st world nation with all countries as friends?

a leader that believes women aren't second class citizens...

I don't mind if they feel they need to wear a scarf, but no woman should ever be punished for pulling back the scarf to feel God's sunshine on their hair...

What is happening in Iran is people are getting mad at the government, but not those they chose...

The object holding the leaders under a spell of darkness was destroyed in the 33:33:000 earthquake...


I'm waiting for the fog to lift, a sign showing they can see the light...

[ulli]

I'll be looking out for changes in the Iranian dress code...

hey, maybe they'll soon allow dogs walking the streets,

as long as they are dressed up:

http://www.callingalldogs.com/images/products/detail/BlackTieDress2.jpg

[ulli]

If they see too much light, they'd be blinded.

But at least they won't be able to see the women,

nor the dogs.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Dressing different might be the answer...

http://clouddragon.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/niqab_halal_dog.jpg

maybe they are safer together...

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rje0009l.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

3 days after I mention refineries running at 15% to force up prices...


BP's 475,000 barrel per day (bpd) refinery in Texas City lost power Monday evening...

"There was like a lightning flash back where the plants are," said Jennifer Reynolds, who lives in Texas City about 2 miles from the BP refinery...

info (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=30476)

I bet oilmen are starting to love all these coincidences... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

more good news...


Palestinian rivals Fatah and Hamas 'agree to end rift'...

The Fatah party of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas, which governs Gaza, have agreed a reconciliation deal, officials say.

http://aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/318/480/mritems/Images/2011/4/27/2011427205454430954_20.jpg

Under the Egyptian-brokered deal, an interim government will be formed and a date fixed for elections.

The groups have been divided for more than four years, with Hamas in power in Gaza and Fatah running the West Bank...


Signing ceremony

Tahir al-Nounou, a Hamas government spokesman who was at the meeting in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, where the deal was hammered out, told the BBC: "Hamas and Fatah have signed in principle a reconciliation deal in Cairo.

"The final signing will be in a week from now. Cairo will invite Mahmoud Abbas and [Hamas leader] Khaled Meshaal, and representatives from all Palestinian factions, to attend the signing."

Mr Nounou said all disagreements had been overcome...

bbc story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13215062)

[thunder24]

Maybe the cloud is lifting!

this is good news, if fatah is being peaceful with hamas then Iran's influeceing is lessoning , no?

peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

I see hope for Iran...



http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/4/21/1303395362640/Irans-president-Mahmoud-A-007.jpg
Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, consults his chief-of-staff, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei. Photograph: Alireza Sotakbar/ISNA

A close ally of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who favours cultural openness and opposes greater clerical involvement in politics, is being groomed as a possible successor to the Iranian president when he steps down in two years time.

Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, Ahmadinejad's chief-of-staff, is positioning himself as a candidate who will champion a nationalist rather than a theological narrative of Iran. Mashaei, whose daughter married Ahmadinejad's son, has become the most controversial political figure in Iran, provoking harsh criticism from the conservative establishment, including the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Hardliners close to Khamenei have accused Mashaei of compromising the Islamic Revolution and the principles of Islam by focusing on Persian history.

Mashaei infuriated conservatives in 2008 when he said that Iranians are "friends of all people in the world – even Israelis". He was also criticised for applauding at a ceremony in Turkey in which women performed a traditional dance. Women are not allowed to dance in Iran.

Mashaei used to head Iran's cultural heritage organisation. He was appointed first vice-president in 2009 when Ahmadinejad resumed office following disputed elections that generated mass protests. But he was forced to step down when Khamenei intervened and said in a letter to the president that "the regime's expediency" required Mashaei to leave his post.

Ahmadinejad appointed Mashaei as chief-of-staff instead, a move seen by many as a blow to Khamenei and the first sign of split emerging between the president and the supreme leader.

A confidential US diplomatic cable revealed by WikiLeaks said the incident underlined Mashaei's significance in Ahmadinejad's team. "Ahmadinejad's stubborn defence of Mashaei bespeaks his importance as a key adviser for the increasingly isolated president; he also has emerged as a spokesman for the Ahmadinejad administration. Ahmadinejad has even told press that he would gladly serve as vice-president in a Mashaei administration, prompting many to speculate that Ahmadinejad seeks to have Mashaei replace him in 2013," the cable reads.

Some analysts believe that a regime which has crushed the green opposition movement and is short of internal opposition, is merely creating one in order to create a show of legitimacy come the next election.

Hooshang Amirahmadi, the president of the American Iranian Council who knows Mashaei, told the Guardian: "The reformist movement in Iran did not succeed for various reasons. I think Mashaei has become another alternative and the regime is using this opportunity to heat up the next election in Iran. Mashaei is saying that Iranians are at first Iranians and Islam comes afterward.

full article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/21/ahmadinejad-iran-successor-wikileaks)

[Rocky_Shorz]

another strike to Bankers and oil...

so another hint for the good guys...

do you know what happens when you use Natural Gas and Hydrogen to turn a turbine?

For all of you bomb Builders it is time to start learning, I'm moving the defense industry into clean energy...

for starters, let's double gas millage in our vehicles...

link (http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/nobg.html?hop=hh0gas)

http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/img/mainfold.jpg

http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/img/electrical.jpg

Now imagine building the power plants and energy produced paying for schools and public services.

This is the future, so start reading now...

[thunder24]

This doesn't sound good. Things seem to being speeding up, or I am becoming more aware. Either way, the people will prevail.


Food, fuel and electricity prices have soared to record levels in Iran after the government cut subsidies on key products in December 2010, making it increasingly difficult for average Iranians to cover basic living costs. As a result, amateur videos show huge crowds rushing to grab the little remaining subsidized goods and government handouts left.

The Iranian government, under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's direction, is phasing out decades-old subsidies for petroleum, gas, electricity and certain food products in an effort to save up to 13 billon euros annually and beef up state coffers, whose already fragile state was further hit by four rounds of United Nations sanctions.

The government raised bread prices by 25% on April 26, the second hike in just four months. A loaf of the popular Sangak bread has gone up from 4,000 rials (36 euro cents) to 5,000 rials (45 cents). Its cost had already tripled when the December subsidy cuts came into effect.
http://observers.france24.com/content/20110428-painful-iranian-subsidy-cuts-spark-mad-rushes-banks-food-economy

[Rocky_Shorz]

if they were planting food instead of building bombs there would be plenty of food for everyone...

think of all the money they'll save when this is finished...

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/271085/thumbs/r-HAMAS-FATAH-large570.jpg


“We are concerned about maintaining a good relationship with the United States,” said Maen Rashid Areikat, chief representative of the PLO Mission in Washington, in an interview with The Huffington Post. He said the reaction from some members of Congress was premature.

“We need to use caution and not jump to conclusions," Areikat said. "I don’t think it’s helpful, this kind of rhetoric.”

House Foreign Affairs Chair Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) released a statement saying "such a hybrid government cannot be a recipient of U.S. taxpayer funds," Salon reported.

The surprise deal -- announced Wednesday in Cairo -- would end the four-year political split between Hamas-run Gaza and the Fatah-run West Bank territories. But Areikat said the deal was not aimed at recreating the same type of national unity government that emerged after the 2006 Palestinian election. That is a “misperception,” he said...


Recent polling in Israel shows strong support for a two-state solution and majority support for a plan that would include “significant concessions,” though there is also strong minority opposition to such an agreement.

Following the deal's announcement, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned the Palestinian Authority that it had to “choose between peace with Israel and peace with Hamas,” in order to continue negotiations with Israel, Reuters reported.
full story (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/palestinian-envoy-hamas-fatah-deal_n_855257.html)

Hey Ben, you don't get to decide who gets to have peace...

Listen to your people...

[Rocky_Shorz]

"The president should know that the majority vote for him was not absolute but conditional on his obedience towards the orders by the supreme leadership," the influential Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami said at the Friday prayer ceremony.

"The top of the system is the constitution, which has clarified the power structure," said Khatami, who is deputy head of the Experts Assembly, a clergy body.

The controversy started earlier this month after Ahmadinejad dismissed his intelligence chief Heydar Moslehi but faced a veto by Khamenei, who insisted that Moslehi should stay in his post.

Ahmadinejad has not yet reacted to the issue and for more than week has avoided any public appearance and reportedly has not attended the weekly cabinet session.

There are even rumors that Ahmadinejad is at his home in eastern Tehran and no longer at the presidential office and plans to resign.

These rumors have not been officially confirmed but, according to the local press, Ahmadinejad is supposed to hold a speech on state-run television within the next days...

story link... (http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/iran-cleric-warns-ahmadinejad-not-to-overestimate-his-power-1.358882)

wait until he walks out in the street and calls Iranians to step forward...

[Rocky_Shorz]

see Ben, they are willing to step back to let their people have peace, how about you, call for a public vote this week so everyone that votes against peace, gets to be known by the world...


Hamas leader Ismail Haniya ready to quit
(AFP)

30 April 2011, 1:57 PM
Ismail Haniya, the prime minister of the Hamas movement in power in the Gaza Strip, said today he was “ready to resign”.

“I am prepared to tender my resignation as part of the reconciliation agreement between Hamas and Fatah,” Haniya said.

“This agreement is very important and should boost efforts to end the divisions and encourage unity among Palestinians.”

On Wednesday, the rival Palestinian groups reached an “understanding” in Cairo to set up a transitional unity government and hold elections...

story link (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=/data/middleeast/2011/April/middleeast_April678.xml&section=middleeast)

[thunder24]

Though there was destruction from the tornados last week there were also miracles. My friends family in Chattanooga was one of three houses in a subdivision spared. Just had the porch ripped off. They said now they have a view. Its crazy what the view is after one of those things go through. Metal and debris everywhere, with all trees topped down to about 7-10 feet left. The Tornado that came through where I live stopped 3 miles before my house. It was heading straight for us, it then lifted in to the air and traveled close to 33 miles away and touched down again. Synchronicities abounding. Thanks for all prayers and thoughts. We must come together, one way or another.
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

the destruction was so incredible, but each little miracle we hear of gives us hope... Thank you for sharing

I thought it was rather amazing the whole time you never lost power, but wow...

[thunder24]

yeah tell me about it. I slept and recieved a text message telling me it was over me. I woke up and the sky was like day time, so much lightning. the winds were blowing so hard. We didn't lose our electric once, which is pretty amazing cause when we get just normal thunderstorms the power goes off. I basically slept through the whole thing. Its funny, i saw a line around ashville, nc and it was just blocking all the storm, then all of a sudden the storm jumped that line and their was nothing now on the other side of the line, it was really weird. Had a friend tell me I'd be alright so I went to sleep and didn't worry. amazing how life is what it is.

peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

Representatives of factions including Fatah and its rival Hamas ink deal following talks in Egypt...


Representatives of factions including Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party and its rival Hamas inked the deal following talks with Egyptian officials in Cairo on Tuesday.

"We signed the deal despite several reservations. But we insisted on working for the higher national interest," said Walid al-Awad, a politburo member of the leftist Palestine People's Party.

"We have discussed all the reservations. Everyone has agreed to take these points into consideration," he told Egyptian state television without elaborating.

"Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank will be celebrating this agreement... We must now work to implement what was agreed in the deal."

Al Jazeera's Nicole Johnston, reporting from Gaza, said 13 Palestinian factions were involved in the signing of the deal, including members of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO) - the representative body for the Palestinian people.

A formal signing ceremony is scheduled to take place in Cairo on Wednesday.

"In the official ceremony we will really see all the Palestinian factions come together for the first time in four years," our correspondent said...

link (http://aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/05/201153111651752111.html)


Benyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, reacted to the signing of the reconciliation deal on Tuesday by calling on Abbas to rescind it.

"I call on Abu Mazen (Abbas) to completely cancel the agreement with Hamas and to choose the path to peace with Israel," Netanyahu said during a meeting with Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, in Jerusalem...

Ben it is your job to get the minority to realize they don't have any choice...

the Palestinians have already made theirs...

You either find a way forward or get washed back into the sea...

time is running out...

[Rocky_Shorz]

and Pakistan, remember when I delivered the message to get evil out of your lands followed 3 days later by an earthquake that killed 100K+...

map location (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Abbott%C4%81bad,+Khyber+Pakhtunkhwa,+Pakistan&daddr=34.493+73.629&hl=e&geocode=FWsJCQIdhTFdBCkXxXpVETHeODEslS6xNaZZbg%3BFUhSDgIdSH1jBA&mra=ls&sll=34.493,73.629&sspn=2.159464,3.532104&g=34.493+73.629&ie=UTF8&ll=34.363844,73.427124&spn=0.540727,0.883026&t=h&z=10)

bin Laden moved into his compound just before the October quake...


Listen...


It is time for peace...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Barenboim conducts peace concert in Gaza

Israeli conductor leads his first performance inside blockaded strip.


http://aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2011/05/201153211516138431.html


The Israeli conductor Daniel Barenboim has given his first concert inside Gaza.

Barenboim is a lifelong activist for peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

He entered the blockaded strip from Egypt, along with an orchestra of top European musicians...
concert for peace (http://aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2011/05/201153211516138431.html)

thank you...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Bin Laden's theology a radical break with traditional Islam

Osama bin Laden wore the mantle of a religious leader. He looked the part and talked a good game, but his theology was a radical departure from traditional orthodox Islam...

"He takes scriptural imperatives at their face value and believes this is the only instruction and command God has given him - unmediated by history, unmediated by understanding, unmediated by human experience. Now that's a difference between Muslim orthodoxy and what I would call uber- or hyperscripturalists," Moosa said.

The vast majority of Islamic scholars and imams say the teaching of the Prophet Mohammed happened in historical context that needs to be understood when reading and interpreting the Quran.

"If the likes of bin Laden, if they had spent one day or maybe one month possibly, in a madrassa (Muslim religious school) and understood how the canonical tradition is interpreted, they would not go onto this kind of destructive path they go on," Moosa said.

In the entire leadership structure of al Qaeda, "no one has had any sort of formal religious training from any seminary," said Aftab Malik, a global expert on Muslim affairs at the United Nations Alliance of Civilization. He is researching a Ph.D. on al Qaeda.

"What you had was an engineer and a doctor leading a global jihad against the whole world," Malik said. "That would never happen in normative Islam. It's just such an aberration."...

"What bin Laden ends up doing is saying anyone who disagrees with him, any Muslim, is in fact an apostate," he said. That includes Muslims who would not join his fight, he said. "It's a distortion of the traditional teaching, and it just extends the parameters and the consequences in order to legitimate how when you're fighting on the ground you're fighting against your own people."...

"The second major deviation is the targeting of noncombatants. Even when you read in the Quran there are injunctions for fighting. But before and after the injunctions for fighting are calls for restraint. 'Do not attack monks, do not attack women, do not attack children.' And these are numerated heavily in the Hadith, which are uncontested," Malik said, referring to the sayings of the prophet and his close companions...

"What bin Laden has done is ignored those injunctions," he said. "The reason he has ignored them, in Osama bin Laden's theology it's basically a theology of anarchy.

"Once you let the genie out of the bottle you can't put it back in, and that's the big difference between al Qaeda theology and normative Islam. Normative Islam has heavy constraints - very, very heavy."

Bin Laden's theology is waning greatly in influence, Esposito said, in part because of the rise of the Arab Spring, the revolts of people on the street across the Middle East that have overthrown regimes in Tunisia and Egypt... link (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/04/bin-ladens-theology/?hpt=T2)

the hope for peace is the youth...


Palestine's Youth Revolt
In the West Bank and Gaza, young Palestinian activists are taking to the streets to demand change from their feuding political leaders.
link (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/03/23/palestines_youth_revolt?page=0,1&wpisrc=obnetwork)

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/images/110121376resized.jpg



CAIRO (Ma'an) -- In a recorded broadcast which aired one hour after a unity announcement was made in Cairo, leaders of Fatah and Hamas welcomed a reconciliation deal they said would pave the way to statehood...

Abbas reaffirmed that the new government would renounce violence, but underscored his continued support for popular resistance activities against Israel's continued military and settler presence in the West Bank.

"The people are leading a struggle that is recognized by the world ... the people struggle against occupation, settler oppression, [and the] ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem," he said, labeling Israel's occupation of Palestinian areas "state terrorism."

Mash’al, whose address was brief, praised the efforts of Egypt, and said he supported "elections at the first possible moment," but said that in order for the vote to be genuine, "first we must establish a real and normal atmosphere on the ground."

Abbas elaborated on his vision for the establishment of a unified Palestinian people, saying "there will be one authority, one gun; [but we will be an] authority committed to non-violence."...link

"If they keep blackmailing us, we'll make September nearer," he said, referring to the PA's stated intention to head to the UN in September asking that the international body recognize a Palestinian state in the pre-1967 borders, on land recognized as the West Bank -- including Jerusalem -- and the Gaza Strip.

"Israel used division as pretext to stall a peace deal. Now they object to unity. That's unacceptable, its illegitimate," he said.

The Palestinian president said the Israeli premier must now "choose between (building) settlements and peace," and accused Israel of opposing the Palestinian reconciliation accord as "a pretext to avoid peace negotiations."... (http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=384752)

Israel, it is your time to act...

[Rocky_Shorz]

this is good...


Al Jazeera's Dorsa Jabari in Tehran quoted an MP as saying that Ahmadinejad had asked the supreme leader to step down as he insists he cannot work with the intelligence minister.

Khonsari said upheavals in some Middle Eastern countries could spread to Iran if the rift continued.

"You have to bear in mind that what we're witnessing in the Middle East it all started with events in Iran some 20 months ago and Iran is not immune from the global cts from what we're witnessing as a result of this Arab awakening," he said.

"Peple in Iran are conscious there are grave economic issues; grave foreign policy issues confronting the Ahmadinejad government and the last thing he needs is to be in disarray with the supreme leader in a fight over a situation that's totally impervious to the wishes and aspirations of the general majority.

"There's no question in the minds of Iranians that this is going to be a very hot summer coming up."

The supreme leader wields more power than the president and appoints military leaders and the council that passes laws.

The dispute has led to the arrest of several close allies of the president, including Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, the chief of staff.

Mashaei and others arrested have been accused of invoking djinns [spirits].
full story (http://aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/05/201156113955925329.html)

last week I had a dream visiting Khamenei to see if he is waking up yet...


he turned his head sideways and looked directly at me, I told him he is sitting in my chair and he smiled...



BRUSSELS - The European Union said on Friday it would provide an extra 85 million euros ($124 million) to the Palestinian Authority to help pay salaries of essential workers and to support vulnerable families.

The move was decided on after Israel on Sunday blocked the transfer of $105 million in customs duties and other levies it collects on behalf of the Palestinian Authority, following a deal to reunite the two rival Palestinian wings...link (http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=219540)

[thunder24]

A cartoon illustrates the potential uses of a new theoretical type of mobile technology that would use an aluminum alloy to convert non-potable water into drinking water while also extracting hydrogen to generate electricity. Such a lightweight, portable system might be used to provide power and drinking water to villages and also for military operations. Credit: Jerry Woodall, Purdue University

Researchers have developed an aluminum alloy that could be used in a new type of mobile technology to convert non-potable water into drinking water while also extracting hydrogen to generate electricity

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-portable-tech-power-villages.html

What a way to raise nations up from poverty.
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

Even as Israel slammed the door on any dialogue with the Palestinians after a unity deal with Hamas, the Islamic group has been inching its way toward a tacit acceptance of Israel.

Despite being officially dedicated to "liberating all of Palestine," in recent days Hamas leaders have spoken of accepting a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders, effectively alongside Israel.

Speaking in Cairo on Thursday, a day after the ceremony to sign the surprise reconciliation agreement between Hamas and Fatah, Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal said there was a broad consensus on the 1967 borders among Palestinian groups.

Hamas "agrees to the establishment of a Palestinian state within 1967 borders with Jerusalem as its capital, without settlers and without giving up the right of return," he said.

That implies tacit acceptance of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. And although Hamas has indicated it would support such a position in the past, such public, high-profile endorsements give it added gravitas.

"There is a consensus on it among the majority of Palestinian political forces, which can be the basis on which to build," Meshaal said."

But a tacit nod to Israel's existence is not enough for the Jewish state, which has said it will not have any dealings with a Palestinian government that embraces Hamas unless it renounces violence and explicitly recognizes Israel.

"If (Palestinian) national unity is unity for peace, then we would be the first to support it," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Thursday after meeting French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Paris... link (http://www.canada.com/news/Hamas+moves+closer+tacit+acceptance+Israel/4743352/story.html)

inch by inch...


On Thursday, Meshaal criticised the way in which bin Laden had been killed by US commandos and then buried at sea, calling on the West to "recognise the atrocity of the American raid and the burial of (bin Laden's body) at sea".link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110506/wl_mideast_afp/usattacksbinladenhamas)

it is outrageous they dumped him at sea, they should have strapped him to a satellite and sent him into space...

that way when his followers strap a bomb to their backside and pull the cord they might fly high enough to say "hi"... ;)

[thunder24]

it is outrageous they dumped him at sea, they should have strapped him to a satellite and sent him into space...

that way when his followers strap a bomb to their backside and pull the cord they might fly high enough to say "hi"...
do what? Serious question.
peace

[thunder24]

I started reading this about Great Britain owning US since 97... link (http://www.natural-person.ca/pdf/Great_Britain_owns_USA.PDF)

it lead me to the PICTs I was looking for...

I'm jumping threads and a couple months. The link you presented is the knowledge that leads me to question how the state banks will be set up from the beginning. How, with the knowledge that is available, can we work within the system of the Babyloinian talmud/U.C.C. if that is one of our 3d major hurdles? I don't know.
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

I've been researching back to understand why Qutbism, Radical Salafi are stirring trouble in Gaza...


The easy explanation for differences within the Salafi movement is that some aim to change society through da’wa (preaching/evangelizing) whereas others want to change it through violence. But as the Saudi example shows, all strains of Salafism, even the most revolutionary and violent, make a place for social services such as education in their strategies for the transformation of society...


In terms of their respective formation, Wahhabism and Salafism were quite distinct. Wahhabism was a pared-down Islam that rejected modern influences, while Salafism sought to reconcile Islam with modernism. What they had in common is that both rejected traditional teachings on Islam in favor of direct, ‘fundamentalist’ reinterpretation.

Saudi Arabia Embraces Salafi Pan-Islamism

Although Saudi Arabia is commonly characterized as aggressively exporting Wahhabism, it has in fact imported pan-Islamic Salafism. Saudi Arabia founded and funded transnational organizations and headquartered them in the kingdom, but many of the guiding figures in these bodies were foreign Salafis. The most well known of these organizations was the World Muslim League, founded in Mecca in 1962, which distributed books and cassettes by al-Banna, Qutb and other foreign Salafi luminaries. Saudi Arabia successfully courted academics at al-Azhar University, and invited radical Salafis to teach at its own Universities...

...main criticism of Qutb and Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna is that they claim Islam teaches tolerance of Jews.
full article (http://www.jamestown.org/programs/gta/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=528&tx_ttnews[backPid]=180&no_cache=1)

[araucaria]

[QUOTE]Barenboim conducts peace concert in Gaza

Israeli conductor leads his first performance inside blockaded strip.




Barenboim is originally Argentinian and now both Israeli and Palestinian. His Israelo-Palestinian youth orchestra is doing amazing work. Barenboim also happens to be an absolutely top class pianist and musician. He was married to the cellist Jacqueline Dupré, who died very young.

[Rocky_Shorz]

JP Morgan do you think what happened this morning wasn't noticed?

I guess today we should mention that all these old Prius laying around for a few thousand dollars can be converted into electric Generators powered by water...

Energy produced in 24 hours can power neighborhoods...



Tesla's plan was ingeniously simple, and actually works ! You just need a
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/gif/kw-tower.jpg

Tesla (http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/tommy/td.htm)


* Tower that you can resonate.
* An oscillator of moderate power,
* Some tuning equipment, and
* a little tweaking,

to get things ready.
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/gif/trans.jpg

Now you are all set, to send out your excitation signal.

On the receiving end all you need is

* an appropriately wound and tuned resonant circuit,
* a ground rod of good quality, and
* one wire going to your light bulb.
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/gif/t-bulb.jpg

Yes, there is just one wire connecting the coil to the light bulbs. That's it! The transmitted energy from the tower sets up standing waves in the resonate circuit and the "vacuum energy" "lasers out" and powers the light bulbs. Even this little cardboard mailing tube coil, which is being powered by the AM tower outside, although very inefficient, shows at least, that under the right conditions, this concept of Tesla's, does work!

However, providing free power for everyone did not go over well with Tesla's financial backers...

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/gif/tower.jpg

Ellen Sherman — J. P. Morgan, did not want to back something that was going to give free energy to people. Who, he could put no meter on. He could not get any money from it, what so ever.

Tad Wise — When Morgan pulled his support, he not only ended Tesla's career as the major scientist of his day, but, he made a laughing stock of him, in the eyes of his scientific peers. When that was all pulled away from him, he was a desperate man on any number of fronts.

V.O. — And, that desperation, may have lead him to use the partially constructed tower to conduct a fateful experiment, in the summer of 1908.

[Rocky_Shorz]

one of the images I saw during the Tsunami was a parking lot of Prius being washed away, the new Prius Minivan is about to be released but was delayed by the disaster...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AWCE7uHndY4/TW5ZXrVrVkI/AAAAAAAEFRE/5o4fadHvypU/s200/Toyota-Prius-MPV-Europe-18.JPG

taking the front of a Prius run on majority water through a smack booster, and finding the wind Turbine that matches best the power of the front transmission...

now Japan, I know you are looking to get off Nukes...

many people are wondering why am I sharing it with the world instead of producing it for America and the answer is simple...

America won't let me...

Toyota, consider this America's contribution to cleaning up the world...

the answers are so easy, it is time to get started...

[Rocky_Shorz]

do you know what happens when you use Natural Gas and Hydrogen to turn a turbine?

for starters, let's double gas millage in our vehicles...

link (http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/nobg.html?hop=hh0gas)

http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/img/mainfold.jpg

http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/img/electrical.jpg

Now imagine building the power plants and energy produced paying for schools and public services.

This is the future, so start reading now...

7353

there...

a million Prius on the road in America...

the engine needs redesigning to handle water without rusting but everything else is ready...

if you lift the weight off the front of the car so just the wheels are turning it creates power in glide.


Toyota could make a great commercial, show a nuke plant going offline and a Prius pulling up, someone hopping out and dragging an extension cord over to the plant and powering it up... ;)

[ulli]

7353

there...

a million Prius on the road in America...

the engine needs redesigning to handle water without rusting but everything else is ready...

if you lift the weight off the front of the car so just the wheels are turning it creates power in glide.

Toyota could make a great commercial, show a nuke plant going offline and a Prius pulling up, dragging an extension cord over to the plant and powering it up... ;)

Holy shi'ite, Rocky...I just 'saw' that commercial...how did you get it out so fast??

[Rocky_Shorz]

from email


DOE Announces Guide for 50 % More Energy Efficient Office Buildings
May 11, 2011

The U.S. Department of Energy today announced the release of the first in a new series of Advanced Energy Design Guides (AEDGs) to aid architects and engineers in the design of highly energy efficient office buildings. The 50 % AEDG series will provide a practical approach to commercial buildings designed to achieve 50 % energy savings compared to the commercial building energy code used in many areas of the country. This 50 % AEDG for Small and Medium Office Buildings is the first in a series of four to be released in the coming months. These commercial building guides support President Obama’s goal to reduce energy use in commercial buildings 20 % by 2020 and will help drive demand for energy-saving products made in the United States...

did you know most major commercial properties could save that much energy from 11 Prius... Imagine that... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

The freeze was originally justified by Israel's finance minister, Yuval Steinitz, who had suggested that "communal fund would finance the terrorist activities of Hamas, and we want it established that there will be two separate funds", although a separate fund was not created.

On Monday, Israeli strategic affairs minister Moshe Yaalon explained: "We have unblocked the funds because we have established that the agreement between Fatah and Hamas has had no effect."link... (http://aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/05/201151610649153885.html)

Imagine that, peace between Hamas and Fatah have no affect on Israel...

The truth is, there would be no Israel if it wasn't for the Palestinians...

all they are asking for is peace and prosperity in their lands...

Is that really so much to ask?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Gadhafi and Mubarak both of you asked for the same thing, forgiveness from the people, willing to give anything to be able to continue watching the country you love move into a first world country...

it is understood you feel what you did was self defense, you will be forgiven, but it will take giving it all.

If I were you, standing up in court in front of the people, this is what I would offer... every penny of your hidden money must be moved into the central bank of your country to fund its future growth, all oil income, direct to the people's bank. The central bank will direct funds to the community levels.

now that is a start, but to earn the forgiveness of your people, you must become one of them, working beside them to rebuilt the country for the same amount of money they make...

you are going to have mothers come to you crying, hitting your chest, to give her peace, you must accept responsibility and say sorry, take every penny from your pocket and give it to her...

go to her home and help pick up the destruction, build her a new roof...

not only will it teach you really how wonderful your people are, but show you the struggles first hand...

You will never be their leader again, but you will at least go down in history for what you did for them instead of the end of a rope...

after the country is earning enough to feed their families, enough food in storage to feed the population...

then you can ask your country for enough to retire...


just be happy when they are happy, that is really all that matters for a leader...



A media report says Egypt's ousted dictator Hosni Mubarak is expected to apologize to the Egyptians for any offense caused to the nation.


Mubarak would soon address the Egyptian people to ask for forgiveness for himself and his family, al-Shoroukdaily said in a report on Tuesday.

He is also expected to announce his readiness to relinquish his assets and plead for amnesty.

Mubarak and his wife are under arrest in a hospital in the Egyptian city of Sharm el-Sheikh.

They reportedly suffered heart attacks during questioning over corruption charges.

Both are charged with abuse of power... link (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/180394.html)

He has at least made the offer he promised in his prayers...

now it is up to the Egyptians to give him a chance to make up for his mistakes made during desperation...

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/318/480/mritems/Images/2011/5/30/20115303263861580_20.jpg

Germany closing all Nuke power facilities in 11 years, by 2022

Posted under the Templar Riders... ;)


I just noticed the Templar cross is covered by the nuke symbol too...

[thunder24]

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25080

American Banks: Who's not listed?

The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.


According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.[1]


So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks?

[Rocky_Shorz]

the banks not mentioned... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

what can I say, oil speculators are running on news that there isn't enough oil spreading fear everywhere to drive up prices... How many major news outlets are reporting Saudis raised output by 1.5 Million barrels per day to cover the worlds needs? None... More manipulation...


J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. JPM +0.02% , Bank of America Corp. BAC +0.09% , and Wells Fargo & Co. WFC +3.39% can no longer receive fees from the program known as the Making Home Affordable Program, until they make changes to ensure their processes work better, the Treasury Department announced. The program seeks to help troubled borrowers avoid foreclosure.

The big banks have been broadly criticized for foreclosure documentation errors, and in many cases, institutions have assigned only a single employee to rapidly approve numerous foreclosures. The major banks were sanctioned in April by federal regulators for “negligence” in residential mortgage loan servicing and foreclosure processes. Hefty fines in the billions of dollars are likely still on the way from a related, ongoing investigation on the part of state attorneys general and the Justice Department.

The Treasury Department found that the three firms are in need of substantial improvements based on the agency’s compliance reviews and program performance results from the first quarter of 2011. They agency evaluated banks on how they contacted homeowners, evaluated whether homeowners need assistance and their management and governance... link (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-fees-to-three-big-banks-are-stopped-2011-06-09?Link=obinsite)

do you think the Saudis benefit from Iran having excess money to spend building weapons of Mass Destruction?

This is such an important move right now and yet, no one wants to mention it because of greed.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Saudi Arabia just announced they are going to Spend $170 Billion to produce clean energy and get their country off dependency on oil.

That is 3 times what Exxon makes a year

I'm proud of you for once again leading the way...

[Rocky_Shorz]

continuing down our new timeline...


DOE Webcast Friday: U.S.-China EcoPartnerships Program Members Discuss Clean Energy Projects
June 16, 2011

The U.S. Department of Energy and the Brookhaven National Laboratory have partnered with the Virtual Energy Forum to highlight activities under the U.S.-China EcoPartnership program, a bilateral framework aimed at developing new ways to promote energy security, economic growth, and environmental sustainability in both countries. The EcoPartnership program participants will host live video presentations on Friday, June 17th from 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. EDT—providing a global audience with the opportunity to interact with leading experts.

Complimentary registration is available at the Virtual Energy Forum website.

Following an introduction from Mark Ginsberg, senior executive advisor in DOE's Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, a keynote presentation will be hosted by EcoPartnership participants from locations in the United States and China. Partners will provide an overview of the Utah-Qinghai EcoPartnership and the roles and capabilities of each partner, as well as the benefits and outcomes that are expected from the activities. Presentation attendees will learn about the clean energy technologies being deployed through the program and how the partnerships are structured. Utah-Qinghai EcoPartnership is one of six partnerships formed during the Third Strategic and Economic Dialogue at the U.S. Department of State on May 10, 2011, presided over by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Chinese Vice Chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission Minister Xie Zhenhua... link... (http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=553)

[Rocky_Shorz]

UNITED NATIONS (AFP) – Several American Jews are to board a US boat planning to join a flotilla of about 10 ships seeking to breach Israel's naval blockade of Gaza later this month, an organizer said Monday.

"We are seeking justice for Gaza," Leslie Cogan told reporters, noting the boat will have 36 passengers, four crew and nine journalists when it sets sail for the tiny Palestinian enclave.

She said 28 percent of the passengers were American Jews.

"It's important that Jews are in this boat... The Jewish lobby in this country is so powerful," said New York labor attorney Richard Levy, himself Jewish.

"We cannot support an Israeli blockade which is morally and juridically unsupportable... No more people should be slaughtered in the name of the Jews."

The US boat, The Audacity of Hope, will sail from Athens to join around 10 ships carrying some 500 to 600 pro-Palestinian activists from 22 countries, Cogan said.

The boats are expected to leave various Mediterranean ports around June 20 as part of the so-called "Freedom Flotilla II" aimed at breaking the Israeli blockade.

Cogan said the American ship will carry some 3,000 messages from the American people to the people of Gaza in what she called "a cargo of friendship, a cargo of peace."link... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110620/wl_mideast_afp/israelpalestiniansconflictgazaflotillaus)

and so it begins...

[Rocky_Shorz]

There is a consistent effort to portray Palestinians as violent individuals, and this effort is tied directly to attempts to justify any Israeli action against Palestinians in the name of “security” or “defense.” In reality, Palestinian resistance to the Israeli occupation and colonization of their land is diverse and overwhelmingly non-violent. Just because Palestinian non-violence doesn’t get the media attention violent conflict does, doesn’t mean it isn’t there. But how would anyone outside of Palestine know? (Image below: A Palestinian woman defies Israeli declared "buffer zone" in Gaza to harvest wheat.)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7FXEZbpXKWA/Tf9acvVO6yI/AAAAAAAAAbo/kGMJVZnk05M/s400/bufferzone.jpg

Pam Bailey, an American “corporate refugee” as she calls herself, traveled to Gaza to see for herself what was happening in the region. The product of her trips became “The Palestinian Gandhi Project” which Permission to Narrate is proud to feature here. I asked Pam to explain a bit about this:


I first traveled to the Occupied Palestinian Territories in 2007 on an adventurous whim. It changed my life. Three more trips to the region later, I decided to live and volunteer in the Gaza Strip, because I realized that I would always be a bit of an ignorant do-gooder if I didn’t live in my chosen region of focus – Palestine – long enough for the people to begin to forget I’m a guest. Six months isn’t long compared to a lifetime, but I felt it was enough to put “my feet firmly on the ground,” as well to teach me a bit about the diversity and nuances within the overall culture.

When I returned to DC, I spent the next three weeks on a speaking tour from one coast to the other…One of the most common comments I heard is “What the Palestinians need is a Gandhi, or Martin Luther King Jr.” Yet, Palestinians have many “Gandhis” among them who are resisting occupation and corrupt government every day in very creative ways. So, I joined with a friend (Keren Batiyov) to document these stories and give them an audience. When I returned to Gaza this January, I kickstarted the project with some of the interviews we will be featuring here. They do not have the notoriety of Gandhi and MLK, but all they need is a platform. They also do not have a similar mass following — in many cases, because Israel has attempted to snuff out their budding fame by arresting and imprisoning them or their family members. Others are still young, only needing encouragement and recognition to become the leaders of the future. We hope to provide them a platform to amplify their voices. In the future, our plan is to augment this “oral library” with interviews from the refugee camps in Jordan and Lebanon (typically ignored completely by the media), as well as with Palestinians in the West Bank and Israel... link... (http://blog.thejerusalemfund.org/2011/06/introducing-palestinian-gandhi-project.html)

Israel response...


DEIR AL-BALAH, (PIC)-- Israeli warplanes raided Palestinian farmland to the east of the central Gaza Strip town of Deir Al-Balah at dawn Wednesday with no casualties reported.

The PIC reporter said that Israeli F-16s fired a missiles at the agricultural land causing vast destruction and a big hole.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9Lm-6RxDLIc/TgH57K6UySI/AAAAAAAAJ-U/cW_bu3x8Opo/s320/israeli%2Bwarplanes.jpg

why is it I get the feeling they don't want peace?

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2011/6/1/201161162416925580_20.jpg

Hassan Nasrallah is in trouble. This time the troubles of the Secretary General of Hezbollah, which were hitherto the source of his strength, are not coming from Israel, or from the sectarian politics of Lebanon. Seyyed Hassan's troubles, which this time around are the harbingers of his undoing as an outdated fighter, are coming from, of all places, the Arab Spring.

The Arab Spring, the transnational uprising of masses of millions of people from Morocco to Oman, from Syria to Yemen, is making the aging warrior redundant - his habitually eloquent tongue now stuttering for words. Two years ago, he thought he got away with rejecting the democratic uprising in Iran (whose brutal ruling regime is his principle patron and financier), as a plot by the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. And he did - aided and abetted by the moral and intellectual sclerosis of a segment of Arab intellectuals who thought Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Islamic theocracy were the vanguard of "resistance" to US/Israel imperialism in the region and thus should be spared from criticism. And then Tunisia happened, and Egypt, and Libya, and Bahrain, and Yemen - and then, Hassan Nasrallah and Ali Khamenei's nightmare, Syria happened. It is a sad scene to see a once mighty warrior being bypassed by the force of history, and all he can do is to fumble clumsily to reveal he has not learned the art of aging gracefully.

Deja vu

When Hasan Nasrallah came to the defence of Bashar al-Assad's murderous regime in Syria, signs of frailty were all over the old fighter's countenance. He asked Syrians for patience. He admitted mistakes had been made by Syrians in Lebanon. He promised Assad would do reforms. He pleaded for time. Deja vu: For an uncanny moment the Hezbollah fighter sounded and looked like the late Shah of Iran days before his final demise early in 1979: desperate, confused, baffled by the unfolding drama, worriedly out of touch with what was happening around him.

"Hassan Nasrallah," according to an Al Jazeera report on 25 May 2011,"has called on Syrians to support president Bashar al-Assad and enter into dialogue with the government to end weeks of ongoing protests across Syria."

This is a far different cry than when the democratic uprising in Iran started in June 2009 and Nasrallah readily dismissed and ridiculed it as an American plot. These were Arabs up against their corrupt and cruel leaders, not "them Persians" whose money was good but their historic struggles for their civil liberties a plot by the Saudis, the Israelis, and the US... link... (http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/06/2011618103354910596.html?utm_content=tweets&utm_campaign=Trial3&utm_source=SocialFlow&utm_medium=ExperimentMasterAccount&utm_term=twitter)

Black sheep, Black sheep have you any brains... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

U.S. President Barack Obama's decision to redeploy 33,000 troops from Afghanistan by summer next year could save the Pentagon billions of dollars in operating costs in 2012 and beyond...

story link... (http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6893124&c=policy;%20budget&s=TOP&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

as the debt ceiling approaches, 60 Million Barrels of Crude were dumped on the market today from strategic reserves...

$6 Billion buy down on debt...

If we do this once a week, we can stay afloat... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

This came in an email today, isn't it good to know at least a few see America for what it is...

Written by an Australian Dentist

To Kill an American
You probably missed this in the rush of news, but there was actually a report that someone inPakistan had published in a newspaper, an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is. So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)

'An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Filipino, Polish, Brazilian, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, Arab, Pakistani or Afghan.

An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans..

An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan .. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.

An American is also free to believe in no religion.. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous

land in the history of the world..

The root of that prosperity can be found in theDeclaration of Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.

An American is generous.. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.


When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan ..

The national symbol of America , The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America


Some of them were working in the Twin Towersthe morning of September 11, 2001, earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists..

So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world.. But, in doing so, you would just be killing yourself.. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American...

[Rocky_Shorz]

do you think the Saudis benefit from Iran having excess money to spend building weapons of Mass Destruction?

This is such an important move right now and yet, no one wants to mention it because of greed.

that was from the 9th, I just noticed this from a few days ago...


A leading member of Saudi Arabia's royal family warned that Riyadh could seek to supplant Iran's oil exports if the country doesn't constrain its nuclear program, a move that could hobble Tehran's finances.

In closed-door remarks earlier this month, Saudi Prince Turki al-Faisal also strongly implied that Riyadh would be forced to follow suit if Tehran pushed ahead to develop nuclear weapons and said Saudi Arabia is preparing to employ all of its economic, diplomatic and security assets to confront Tehran's regional ambitions.

"Iran is very vulnerable in the oil sector, and it is there that more could be done to squeeze the current government," Prince Turki, a former Saudi ambassador to the U.S. and U.K., told a private gathering of American and British servicemen at RAF Molesworth airbase outside London.

The Arab Spring uprisings are intensifying the rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Iran, who face off across the Persian Gulf and jostle for influence with neighbors from Syria to Yemen. It's a Cold War, fueled by oil and ideology, between Shiite Islamists who rule Iran and the Sunni Saudi royal family, each of whom consider themselves leaders of the world's Muslim populations... link (http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23375:saudi-suggests-squeezing-iran-over-nuclear-ambitions&catid=4:iran-general&Itemid=26)

Iran's Reply...


Tehran, Iran, Jun. 23 - Iran’s caretaker oil minister Mohammad Aliabadi said Tehran would block any attempt to affect the current market oil prices.

His statement came on the back of a recent spat between Iran and Saudi Arabia on the production output of crude oil.

The state-run news agency Fars reported that Aliabadi on Wednesday stated: "Iran will stop any move designed to play with oil prices through production hike".

Iran, which currently holds the presidency of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), has stated repeatedly it wishes to keep production to the current levels and thus maintaining a high price for its product... link (http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23382:iran-says-will-block-attempts-to-reduce-global-oil-prices&catid=31:economy&Itemid=46)

in after hour trading following that report Oil jumped... and then dropped a dollar to today's close...

what's wrong Iran, no one listening?

[Rocky_Shorz]

3 Days Later, Iran gets a reminder of the BAM earthquake of Christmas...

Magnitude 5.1

Sunday, June 26, 2011 at 11:17:01 PM at epicenter

111 and 7 again, just another coincidence... ;)

make that IIII quakes this was the biggest

[Rocky_Shorz]

Israel, looking at different outcomes to your choices right now, allowing all the flotillas to deliver aid is your best option.

Hamas has a spotlight on them right now, so show the world you do have a heart and be glad that others are helping pay for what Palestinians need.

bring them in orderly one ship at a time, passengers welcomed to shore while contents are scanned before unloading...

There is NO other option for a good outcome at this time...

[Rocky_Shorz]

the other option is finish turning the world against you with moves like this...


At 5.30 pm Swedish time on Monday it was discovered that Ship to Gaza’s passenger boat “Juliano” was the victim of sabotage in the port of Piraeus [Greece]. Hostile divers the destroyed the propeller house and cut the propeller shaft. No one was injured in the attack.

Ship to Gaza has documented the sabotage with using its own camera equipped divers. A first inspection was carried out to repair the damage before the planned departure at the end of this week.

Passenger boat “Juliano” (named after Juliano Meir Khamis, the murdered actor and director at Freedom Theatre in Jenin) is owned jointly by the Ship to Gaza organizations in Sweden, Norway and Greece.

In a first comment Ship to Gaza spokesperson Mattias Gardell said:

“It’s one thing for a foreign power to press the Greek government to delay our voyage with red tape. It is quite another thing for enemy agents to operate on Greek territory. It is high time for the international community to put their foot down and say: Enough!” link... (http://electronicintifada.net/blog/ali-abunimah/gaza-bound-ship-juliano-found-sabotaged-greek-port)

[WhiteFeather]

they are ready to hand back the responsibility of running this world, so what would you ask them to change before leaving?

That is a HUGE question...
1.) Get rid of the government making decisions for the "people" without our acknowledgement.
2.) Free energy is available, let it be known.
3.) No lies regarding our human heritage.
4.) Educate our children, stop "dumbicating".
5.) Change the concept of thinking that those who have money have power; to, those that have love have power.
6.) Instill that our planet is a living and breathing entity and it is our responsibility to protect her, show respect, and learn to honor all that she gives.

Awesome Response I Might Add. Thank You! Well Said.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Since this thread began, Nuclear power is becoming a thing of the past...

Billions of tons of rare earth minerals are available to replace them...

Japan and Germany are moving away from it, any proposal to build new is being crushed by the public...

earthquakes, tornadoes, tropical storms, fires, floods, tsunami and invasion of the Jellyfish...

according to insurance companies, all Acts of God...

funny how Bankers believe in God when it saves them money.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I wonder if Murdock ever noticed he was on my April Fools list... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I contacted IDF several days before the Oslo attack on Twitter... Chief Spokesperson to the International media...

they know I am watching...

“The attack in Oslo also came 65 years to the very day after the Israeli Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem”…Eileen Fleming


Jellyfish invade Israeli shores
Millions of giant jellyfish have been washing up on Israeli beaches, posing a threat to power plants.
Last Modified: 24 Jul 2011 20:28
link... (http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2011/07/2011724192513693698.html?utm_content=automateplus&utm_campaign=Trial5&utm_source=SocialFlow&utm_term=tweets&utm_medium=MasterAccount)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Many are realizing by now, this thread is going to get a lot of attention once people realize he and his friends had read or maybe even been a part of it...

Sorry Avalon...

[Heather2017]

Many are realizing by now, this thread is going to get a lot of attention once people realize he and his friends had read or maybe even been a part of it...

Sorry Avalon...

Would you please elaborate, RS?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Goliath may have gotten bigger, but so have my rocks... ;)

[sygh]

momentum is building...


Israeli intellectuals support Palestinian state declaration


Tel Aviv - Dozens of Israeli intellectuals have expressed support for the declaration of a Palestinian state along 1967 borders as they start a campaign to build support for the move.

Israel captured the West Bank from Jordan and the Gaza Strip from Egypt in the Six-Day war of that year.

In a signed document, the group wrote that 'the total end of the occupation' of those territories is fundamental for the liberation of both the Palestinian and the Jewish people.

The signatories include 17 Israel Prize winners, the country's top civil honour given for outstanding achievement in fields such as education, history and science.

'We call on everyone who seeks peace and freedom for all peoples to support the declaration of Palestinian statehood,' says the statement.

The group plans a Thursday afternoon protest in front of Independence Hall, the central Tel Aviv building where the country's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, declared Israel's statehood in 1948...

full story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-peace-plan-20110419,0,2928506.story)


Moderate members of Netanyahu's Likud Party are urging the prime minister to seize the moment by offering a fresh approach.

"We should take an initiative," said Intelligence Minister Dan Meridor. "Time passing is not helping."

President Obama has said he wants to welcome a Palestinian state into the U.N. in September. Not coincidentally, that's also when the Palestinians are promising to take their statehood bid to the U.N. General Assembly, which most predict will approve it...
link (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-peace-plan-20110419,0,2928506.story)

Why not let the ground the Dome sit's on be an independent state, something along the line of, say... the District of Columbia, here in the U.S? Not exactly, of course.

[sygh]

Many are realizing by now, this thread is going to get a lot of attention once people realize he and his friends had read or maybe even been a part of it...

Sorry Avalon...

Would you please elaborate, RS?

Yes, please explain this statement. Thanks.

[Rocky_Shorz]

momentum is building...


Israeli intellectuals support Palestinian state declaration


Tel Aviv - Dozens of Israeli intellectuals have expressed support for the declaration of a Palestinian state along 1967 borders as they start a campaign to build support for the move.

Israel captured the West Bank from Jordan and the Gaza Strip from Egypt in the Six-Day war of that year.

In a signed document, the group wrote that 'the total end of the occupation' of those territories is fundamental for the liberation of both the Palestinian and the Jewish people.

The signatories include 17 Israel Prize winners, the country's top civil honour given for outstanding achievement in fields such as education, history and science.

'We call on everyone who seeks peace and freedom for all peoples to support the declaration of Palestinian statehood,' says the statement.

The group plans a Thursday afternoon protest in front of Independence Hall, the central Tel Aviv building where the country's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, declared Israel's statehood in 1948...

full story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-peace-plan-20110419,0,2928506.story)


Moderate members of Netanyahu's Likud Party are urging the prime minister to seize the moment by offering a fresh approach.

"We should take an initiative," said Intelligence Minister Dan Meridor. "Time passing is not helping."

President Obama has said he wants to welcome a Palestinian state into the U.N. in September. Not coincidentally, that's also when the Palestinians are promising to take their statehood bid to the U.N. General Assembly, which most predict will approve it...
link (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-peace-plan-20110419,0,2928506.story)

Why not let the ground the Dome sit's on be an independent state, something along the line of, say... the District of Columbia, here in the U.S? Not exactly, of course.

well when they understand Abraham was a Kurd from the bloodline on the arc...

when they understand the gifts passed down through the Kurdish Kings bloodline...

when they understand Urha where spirituality began, and the ark was built at the 10,500 year old spirituality center and a special few drifted to rest and start in Urfa... Garden of Eden... beginning after the flood...

the truth lies in the middle and so should everyone's hearts...

[Belle]

Found this interesting...http://stevebeckow.com/2011/07/israel-erupts-in-protest-tens-of-thousands-chant-revolution/

Israel Erupts in Protest, Tens of Thousands Chant “Revolution”



An excerpt from the article:

"It happened almost overnight: Friday morning a week ago, walking near Habima Square in central Tel Aviv, I saw only a handful of tents, with no more than a few dozen Israelis who answered an internet call for an ongoing protest against rising rent costs. On Saturday evening the tents covered an entire block on Rothschild Boulevard, and protesters threw cottage cheese containers on the Likud HQ on nearby King George Street. A couple of days later, the tent protests came to dominate the news cycle.

Housing minister Ariel Attias (Shas) argued that the protesters were spoiled kids that refuse to leave the fashionable center of the country, but by Tuesday there were tents in Jerusalem, the southern city of Beer Sheva and as far north as Kiryat Shmona, near the Lebanon border (see a map of all the protests here).

By Wednesday protesters tried to break into empty apartments in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem; the tents on Rothschild Boulevard stretched several blocks, all the way from Habimah Square to Shenkin Street, and marches and rallies were scheduled for the weekend. The Friday papers declared that Binyamin Netanyahu sees the tent protest as the greatest potential political threat to his governing coalition.

These protests, which began as explicit anger at the rising rental prices in cities across the country, have been fueled by the response of Netanyahu’s government, which initially, with hostile rhetoric, dismissed them as being part of a large, leftwing movement being funded by outfits such as the New Israel Fund. The initial rhetoric, which claimed that the protests were not about anything other than the “Zionist Left’s” political agenda, only served to increase protesters’ anger and resolve.

These reactions from Netanyahu and other government officials have served to broaden the protests, which have now moved from rent prices to a host of social justice issues: women’s rights, union rights and education reform, among other things, with general chants of “revolution” heard on the streets last night."


The playbook used by tptb is getting old and worn out. No one buys their rhetoric anymore.

It's time for the world to be at peace.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Politicians in Turkish Kurdistan being rounded up for trial, up to 20 years in prison for asking for no more occupation...


The trial of 98 former Kurdish mayors and eight other politicians will start soon in the southeastern city of Diyarbakir, the court said Wednesday. The suspects had called for the improvement of the Kurdish rebel chief's prison conditions, comments prosecutors say amount to terrorist propaganda.

The politicians were from the now banned pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party, which was shut down in 2009 for ties to Abdullah Ocalan's rebel group. Ocalan has been serving life on a prison island near Istanbul since 1999.

The suspects face a maximum 20 years in prison if convicted. They also face a charge of committing a crime on behalf of Ocalan's illegal Kurdish rebel group, though they were not members.

The case was launched as 152 other Kurdish politicians, including several elected mayors, and activists stood trial in Diyarbakir on Wednesday, for alleged ties to the rebels. The defense lawyers boycotted the hearing for a second day in row to protest the court's refusal to hear their defense in the Kurdish language... link... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/turkey-kurdish-politicians-trial_n_916910.html?ref=tw)

[dreamer]

Greetings to all, I am new here and am trying to do my part in our community. Recently awakened, I have ben sharing my new found clarity with a co worker.. every day, as much as i can. Fortunately I dont get the "look" as soon as he realizes what it is I am getting at, and how radical it may seem to him. That being said, he obtained a "bootleg" copy of " x-men, first class ". And in watching it at home, he said, there was a scene in which a shady group of elites are debating on what they will do with the " Mutants ". He told me somthing struck him in the scene, so he backed up the film to the scene in question. Sure enough, he counted the " Elites " and there were 33. Coincidence?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Politicians in Turkish Kurdistan being rounded up for trial, up to 20 years in prison for asking for no more occupation...


The trial of 98 former Kurdish mayors and eight other politicians will start soon in the southeastern city of Diyarbakir, the court said Wednesday. The suspects had called for the improvement of the Kurdish rebel chief's prison conditions, comments prosecutors say amount to terrorist propaganda.

The politicians were from the now banned pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party, which was shut down in 2009 for ties to Abdullah Ocalan's rebel group. Ocalan has been serving life on a prison island near Istanbul since 1999.

The suspects face a maximum 20 years in prison if convicted. They also face a charge of committing a crime on behalf of Ocalan's illegal Kurdish rebel group, though they were not members.

The case was launched as 152 other Kurdish politicians, including several elected mayors, and activists stood trial in Diyarbakir on Wednesday, for alleged ties to the rebels. The defense lawyers boycotted the hearing for a second day in row to protest the court's refusal to hear their defense in the Kurdish language... link... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/turkey-kurdish-politicians-trial_n_916910.html?ref=tw)

Turkey... I am not asking...

4.2
Date-Time

Thursday, August 04, 2011 at 03:13:10 UTC
Thursday, August 04, 2011 at 06:13:10 AM at epicenter

Location 38.141°N, 39.757°E
Depth 10.8 km (6.7 miles) (poorly constrained)
Region EASTERN TURKEY
Distances 46 km (28 miles) WNW of Diyarbakir, Turkey

[starsha]

I was going to send this to Bill via email, but thought it would make an interesting discussion...

Last night I had a dream of a meeting of the 33 bloodlines, but was not what I expected...

the Representatives of the 33 bloodlines are solicitors, that have been doing what they were instructed for hundreds of years...

Avalon has brought the Bloodlines back together and allowed the spirits to reconnect, some are participants but many have just been quietly reading along...

Now, they are waiting for our instructions, so they can pack up and leave...

1 - Feed the poor
2 - stop treating and start healing
3 - clean our oceans there is enough plastic in the pacific to rebuild New York

they are ready to hand back the responsibility of running this world, so what would you ask them to change before leaving?

Money is no object because 98% of the worlds wealth is yours to spend...

I find this really interesting Rocky,

Ever since i joined this forum i have been having very lucid and vivid dreams. Last night the dream was about flying over the ocean and being shown all these dead fish. The other dreams have been messages and inspiration about transformation, clarity and conscious choice.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Dreams are very powerful...

I wonder if your dream of the dead ocean relates to the one I had of a ocean conveyor belt generator being dropped in for us...


welcome to Avalon, I see you've only been here a few weeks...

share your dreams, so much is happening and everyone connected needs to talk of what they are seeing...


Conversation continued in profile messages, and I was right, there is meaning to what she is seeing.

[Steve C]

I would like to rewind time,back to the 1.1.2011 and not watch the charles material.

Then my head would'nt be so confused..lol.

[Lord Sidious]

I would like to rewind time,back to the 1.1.2011 and not watch the charles material.

Then my head would'nt be so confused..lol.

Prepare to be more confused.
http://ipsissimistica.blogspot.com/

[bennycog]

that was interesting lordy lordy

[Lifebringer]

I want to work restoring the environment in the spiritual side, and while still here, I want to lift all the poverty boats with green trade energy efficiency jobs that convert all nations on less fossil fuel use. Oil should be used to lubricate machinery that can do the hard labor and lifting, and the techs, production and assembly lines for the bots to do the work will be great. Imagine Grandma that is lonely having a talking computerized slot machine or card player with girlfriends and teams. Or A golf caddie that can not only move the balls and clubs but is also a sedgeway like transportation device.
Anti gravitational vehicles that have gps and like the cars now coming out, accident avoidance equipment. All kinds of technolgy to make man's life easier as he works on the problems of the world pollution and ending poverty through education and skills in developing nations to support their own people. Why should they only have light for four hours a day?

WE've got work to do, and little time to do it in after transition when the other jobs or choices of free will service in the spiritual will be available as we learn.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hmmmm...

future for Libya looks good, Iran isn't ready to control it, but Syria is ready to be taken over by Hezbolla...

I always said Assad was sitting on a powderkeg with a Squirtgun, with Gaza about to go friendly this is the next proxy...

He should just announce elections for the new leaders and have everyone start putting their rep list together, full amnesty to move forward...

release political prisoners after explaining they are to help in forming the new government...

[sunnyrap]

Re ocean dreams: ...different people, different visions, I guess. A few nights ago I had a dream about the oceans as well...

This was a quick one popping in just before I woke up: I (my p.o.v.) was from a balcony of a building of some kind, watching the ocean rise to cover the neighborhood I was in. I didn't see any other people in this vision though--just the slow and steady covering of the buildings. Oddly, it was not frightening to me; more like when snow covers a salvage yard with clean purity.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Tsunami of Peace, like lightly falling snow, blanketing humanity, finally we know...

[Rocky_Shorz]

sees the 6.0 Slam Washington DC... whistles innocently...

no injuries or damage...

just started the VisMe.UKD movement, Rocky style... ;)


#JointheCenter


hey Tea Party...

[Belle]

From John Panella, Author of "The Gnostic Papers"...


STRANGE EQ's

Just wanted to point out that both EQ's today in Colorado and Virginia were both approximately 60 Miles south of two of the most underground secret facilities on the planet. Mt Weather and Cheyanne Mountain!

This seems like an underground "event" to me not an EQ!
Particularly centered on the word "EVENT!"

Gnostic

Whether it was due to something happening in/to the underground facilities or eq's courtesy of Mother Earth...both possibilities sound like some kind of message was being sent to a select group to me.

[ulli]

sees the 6.0 Slam Washington DC... whistles innocently...

no injuries or damage...

just started the VisMe.UKD movement, Rocky style... ;)


#JointheCenter


hey Tea Party...

so, Rocky, are you taking credit for the smelly emissions out of San Diego, too???
:tea: :tea: :tea:

[Rocky_Shorz]

wonder if Bankers see the bulls eye of this storm is painted on their heads...

consider it God's stimulus plan, he doesn't like seeing carpenters out of work... ;)


I want to thank insurance companies in advance for their contributions...

[ulli]

Rocky, I've missed you and your cheery posts. What's up, man?

[thunder24]

consider it God's stimulus plan, he doesn't like seeing carpenters out of work... ;)



LOL
peace

[Wolf Khan]

We simply need to believe that we are one of the most advanced races in the UNIVERSE, and this from an ET that I communicate with, These 33+ bloodlines are nothing and it is the people of Earth collectively that are now able to self determine our immediate future and it is brighter than a Super Nova, more glorious than anything humanity has ever witnessed. 2012 is the time for the Galactic Singularity to make all on Earth Conscious. it is as simple as this. :wink: :cool:

[East Sun]

We simply need to believe that we are one of the most advanced races in the UNIVERSE, and this from an ET that I communicate with, These 33+ bloodlines are nothing and it is the people of Earth collectively that are now able to self determine our immediate future and it is brighter than a Super Nova, more glorious than anything humanity has ever witnessed. 2012 is the time for the Galactic Singularity to make all on Earth Conscious. it is as simple as this. :wink: :cool:

You communicate with an ET? Please do tell us about it.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

We simply need to believe that we are one of the most advanced races in the UNIVERSE, and this from an ET that I communicate with, These 33+ bloodlines are nothing and it is the people of Earth collectively that are now able to self determine our immediate future and it is brighter than a Super Nova, more glorious than anything humanity has ever witnessed. 2012 is the time for the Galactic Singularity to make all on Earth Conscious. it is as simple as this. :wink: :cool:


Very true , my friends from out there state this quite clearly .. the 33 have left the building ... the problem is they have over stated their power.. while putting up the front, leaks on their flank have ruptured and have been infiltrated from within.. the seeds from way back have germinated .. and now the machine dies.. the capstone will not help them .. they will; be left to their own devices ...

we will be fine , just wait and see :)

Know they self , Do not fear , Be in Good relation and walk into new dawn


N

[Rocky_Shorz]

after offering to toss David Wilcock a rope to get him out of trouble, a friend of mine died in a mysterious auto accident yesterday...

I was just in that car a few days ago...

do bankers really want me to open Pandoras Box?

if investigators tell me what I expect, it opens...

that's a promise...

[Tony]

Rocky, good to see you back!!!!!

Tony

[ulli]

after offering to toss David Wilcock a rope to get him out of trouble, a friend of mine died in a mysterious auto accident yesterday...

I was just in that car a few days ago...

do bankers really want me to open Pandoras Box?

if investigators tell me what I expect, it opens...

that's a promise...

This has to be one of the saddest birthdays ever for you, Rocky.
Anyhow, you have my best wishes.

[Rocky_Shorz]

He was someone that never went out at night and his Jaguar was his baby, he never drove it over 65-70 MPH...

something spooked him in the middle of the night, the police report estimates he was traveling over 100MPH when something happened to the suspension causing the car to veer off the road and smash into the bridge embankment...

the accident was reported at 6:40, but the coroner says he had been dead since 2 or 3

this is an extremely busy freeway, and yet no one saw the accident happen in the night...

no one saw the vehicle until almost 7 in the morning?

I'm still working on straightening out details of what really happened, but wanted to share with all of you what I know...

this is beyond strange, conspiracy theories are only that until you are living them...

MKUltra? Cloaking? Car rolled off from a Semi with accelerator to the floor?

beyond strange, but wanted my friends at Avalon to be helping sort out what really happened...

Let David know what I shared, maybe he will have some ideas...

here comes the dang chopper again, off to the next cafe...

I'll be back soon...

[Siberia9]

Most people dont realize that the new cars have a computer that controls your accelerator and brakes. Your input can be by-passed by remote control via a govt satellite. It wont be long I was told a couple years ago by my contact that the plan was to take control of your steering as well. This was done to commercial aircraft years ago he said, and then reminded me that they listen to everything that is said inside your car through the On Star Systems even if you dont pay for them for the service.
Very sorry to hear of your friend Rocky. Its at times like this we should strive to remember the true badass, he can take a beating and get up and smile. He will only smile and say "man, that was a good beating" and then say "lets do it again sometime" as he leaves. Everyone is going to loose everything, its just a matter of when, and how we react to it. Be the true badass, thats my advice buddy.

[Kari Lynn]

I was reading this, and couldn't help but think of what happened to me as it seems simular.
One night I was rendered to sleep at the wheel. Mind you I had just got in my vehicle not more than 2 minutes prior to go home, and it was cold outside, so I was quite awake when I got in the car. Last thing I remember was turning the interior light on to locate my ID badge so I could show it at the gate of the base to leave. As soon as I turned the light out, I was out! I proceeded to drive about maybe 2 miles further. Around a tight S curve in the road, past the gate (without stopping) made a 90 degree right turn, proceeded around another left hand curve before the lights and sirens of the security stopped me before I finally became conscious again.

Another time, I was trying to get into my driveway after a storm. Luckily this happened in my driveway and not on the road. While trying to bust through the snow bank, my accelorator stuck to the floor. It scared me but I managed to quickly pop it out of gear. As quickly as it stuck, it let go and was normal again.

Also this year, I've had two incidences where I was trying to flee from someone, and my oil light would come on, (vehicle engine would also clatter horribly as though oil pump quit running).
Both times, the next day, there was apparently nothing wrong with the vehicle. Oil levels were fine, and it ran just fine the next day, no matter how much I floored it to try and get the vehicle to duplicate what it did the night before.

Though not sure, I feel either tampering or remote control was used.
Had feeling this might be a possibility in your friends situation.

[NewFounderHome]

Is there a precise list of the 33 Bloodlines.

[Rocky_Shorz]

there is, but not shared with the public, they aren't the problems in the world right now, it is the financial empires that took the power away from the 33...

I am still here today because of the 33s wings, so won't share names of those I know...

They like many others are quietly following hoping we pull it off...

the Corporate owned world is a thing of the past, We the People are taking it back...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Though not sure, I feel either tampering or remote control was used.
Had feeling this might be a possibility in your friends situation.

It would make an incredible CSI episode, do we have any members who are writers interested in putting it together?

moved into an underground base like the one David Wilcock was speaking of and was replaced in the car by someone who died 3-4 hours before the accident...

[NewFounderHome]

Why still all this old secrecy? Can't this all be put out in the open!

[Kari Lynn]

Is there a precise list of the 33 Bloodlines.
Not familiar with the 33 linages. Can only compare it to what I know of 12 tribes of Isreal. Would it be simular to that? 33 linages? each race of one of those linages? Are they all in alliance with each other, or mixed and fight?

[Kari Lynn]

Though not sure, I feel either tampering or remote control was used.
Had feeling this might be a possibility in your friends situation.

It would make an incredible CSI episode, do we have any members who are writers interested in putting it together?

moved into an underground base like the one David Wilcock was speaking of and was replaced in the car by someone who died 3-4 hours before the accident...
lol I have dabbled as an amateur writer for kids novels, purely for fictional enjoyment.
This stuff, with all the attacks my family, friends and I have suffered, I would not go there. I don't want to see anymore deaths much less have them on my hands. Plus, I wouldn't know where to find the answers.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Why still all this old secrecy? Can't this all be put out in the open!

why would you want to throw a little old man under a bus that has nothing to do with the worlds problems?

Concentrate on the problems without hurting innocents...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Is there a precise list of the 33 Bloodlines.
Not familiar with the 33 linages. Can only compare it to what I know of 12 tribes of Isreal. Would it be simular to that? 33 linages? each race of one of those linages? Are they all in alliance with each other, or mixed and fight?

in a way they are similar, and do cross, but the controllers aren't in control, this has become a race to the greediest and who owns the world, the 33 aren't a part of it...

They are attempting to stop the insanity, but have no power in a Capitalistic world...

[Kari Lynn]

in a way they are similar, and do cross, but the controllers aren't in control, this has become a race to the greediest and who owns the world, the 33 aren't a part of it...
These races of greed would be the Illuminati, Berbermister (spelling, sorry),
as well as the powerhouse society that is so secret, the name is not known, so we simply call them "The Club"
But the 33 are not of these?

[scotusa]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Surrender_of_Cornwallis.jpg


"Surrender of Cornwallis" - General George Washington, on horseback, receives the sword of surrender from Major General O'Hare, who represented Lord Cornwallis after his defeat at Yorktown, the last battle of the American Revolution.

If anyone thinks that surrender gesture was the end of the bloody parasites, think again. Here's the sword, I'll keep the scabbard thank you very much. I am afraid that the US will no longer be the land of the free and home of the brave.

Scotusa

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Surrender_of_Cornwallis.jpg


"Surrender of Cornwallis" - General George Washington, on horseback, receives the sword of surrender from Major General O'Hare, who represented Lord Cornwallis after his defeat at Yorktown, the last battle of the American Revolution.

If anyone thinks that surrender gesture was the end of the bloody parasites, think again. Here's the sword, I'll keep the scabbard thank you very much. I am afraid that the US will no longer be the land of the free and home of the brave.

Scotusa

You Fly a UK Flag, it should be London's... ;)

[scotusa]

The UK has never been a country, its a misnomer. I flag the flag of my birthplace. The other 3 belonging to this "United Kingdom" have been enslaved by the same tyrants who tried to grab your plot of land. The game is up though, soon it will no longer be united or a kingdom.

[Rocky_Shorz]

you hear America going nuts that we are at 100% GDP on our debt, UK is at 1000% and you don't hear any Brits whining...

[NewFounderHome]

So WHO is controlling and creating all this mess if it is not the 33. Who is the new controlling elite then that did take over the previous long term planning.

[Kari Lynn]

So WHO is controlling and creating all this mess if it is not the 33. Who is the new controlling elite then that did take over the previous long term planning.
I am not familiar with the 33 bloodlines, nor have I had time to run the linage down to all those in the 33 blood lines, or study them.
But, from what I've understood, Those power hungry societies twisting Earth and it's inhabitants on it's axis are these:

These races of greed would be the Illuminati, Berbermister (spelling, sorry),
as well as the powerhouse society that is so secret, the name is not known, so we simply call them "The Club"
My understanding of "The Club" is that the leaders of said society are not fully, if at all, human. And don't have human's best interest at heart. I've also been told that this society makes the Illuminati look like Boy Scouts.
"The Club" is the same group that came after some of my close friends, killing one, beating others up, and my family, threatening my circle of protection I have around me, as well as nearly caused me to die several times. I haven't had any verification, or research on it yet, but wonder if they are also the ones that took out my father with the thing in the back of his scull that the doctors found. I have lots to research and dig on this "Club" but not sure where to start.

[Rocky_Shorz]

with the opening of the Vatican Secret Vault, I wanted to bring this back to everyone's memory...


The followings are a few visions/prophecies and warnings; these were the ones which first got me started on looking behind curtains, way back when "Internet" was yet to be invented.

These words were written (in French) in 1935, by someone everyone has heard of, and are related to this thread in a very close parallel:




The Son of the Beast let the wild beasts loose. And Europe collapses like a statue of mud. The sea kills under water and the sky spits fire. And where boots and nails arrive, the sons of Israel meet torment. Sheepyards for their pains and subtle death. The headsmen know, they will lie at Nuremberg.

Always look for the headsmen, even when you think they are dead. Look for them everywhere where power uses terror. Look for them in the house of the one whose wealth came from the war. Not for revenge, but to prevent they and their children invade the world once again by disguising the word and the chief. The Son of the Beast holds the great weapon in his heart.

Fights in the mountains, red and white, climb down the flowers. Europe, those are your best sons, who, one day will be betrayed. Because the heads they thought they fell will lead again, always the same. They will shoot down the money's puppets, not the money's bosses

The Son of the Beast locked in the lair, holding tight to the other's wife. On his death, the mystery. But beware the one who left the lair at the end. He will take long to die and will prepare the world other scourges. He knows the true face of the Beast.

The Son of the Beast, brought forth (manufactured) in one year.

Nuremberg the injust. The killers are absent. Some of them on the judges' bench. This shadow spreads far.

The president will fall, fall his brother will. Between them the cadaver of the innocent star. There are some who know. Ask the first black widow and the man who will lead her on the island to the altar. (Jackie Kennedy became Onassis on "Scorpio island"...). Their secrets lie in weapons, in crimes. And those are the secrets of the one who wasn't at Nuremberg.

Three will shoot on the president; the third one will be among the three who will strike on the second.

Time has nurtured a troubled spirit, in the shadow of the black and red cross, unknown to everyone, daughter of the Nuremberg fugitives. She weaved crime against herself. Some give up on life for evil's love.

Israel who fights and suffers, no less than who attacks you and who doesn't know how to share your pain. You are brothers, someone prods you to fight while remaining hidden. Here the world destiny is decided. And in the palace where nations hug, the fugitive from the lair is very much alive. (Kurt Waldheim, former UN president was discovered to be a former active Nazi). From the palace, hate towards Israel. And this will be a sign of ruin.

From the South against Luther* and the heirs of Nuremberg, those who were missing, those who were sitting on the judges' seats. The one who was the slave colony of salt and copper imposes her people's will.

Only today ends Nuremberg. But beware the face which smiles and comes from the South, more south than all of them. His heart was always north, he came back to take it back with his black brothers. There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.

Prophecies, Angelo Roncalli in 1935.

* (America; the sons of Luther are the Americans in Roncalli's speech, from the Protestants who came to America to escape religious persecutions; as well, the French are the "Sons of Jeanne [d'Arc]")



That Angelo Roncalli guy... well, he is the one who, after WWII, became Pope John XXIII.

Excerpts from "Les prophéties du pape Jean XXIII," Pier Carpi, Ed "Jai Lu." Translation: bibi.

He had the Vision to peace on the path to King David's Castle?

The path was named after him...

soo many questions...

[NewFounderHome]

Why still all this old secrecy? Can't this all be put out in the open!

why would you want to throw a little old man under a bus that has nothing to do with the worlds problems?

Concentrate on the problems without hurting innocents...

I forgot but I'm not looking to throw someone under a bus! but put all in open view!

[Kari Lynn]

I had watched a documentary on tv about the vatican vaults. From what I understand when a pope dies, their prophecies, and documents are locked in an area for a period of time. "For Privacy" I believe is the words used. Much like a person in the United states can not be looked up for geneology purposes (death, marriage certificates, or census reports) for 72 years. (I suspose they figure that person or persons who have had direct contact with them will still be alive to answer questions themselves.)

After a period of time, (72 or 100 years) after the death of the pope, then their specific vault will be opened to view all of their prophecies, documents and such.
My question is, if this pope is so all important, and is suppose to carry the word of God, why are the prophecies locked up for 100 years? Why are they not given to the followers immediately?
I mean, what use does a prophecy do if by the time you open a vault, the incident has already happened 50 years earlier?

[Rocky_Shorz]

in Israel, this is year 5772 some at a glance see it as 777 a great year for peace... ;)

In the footsteps of destiny, everything has a reason, there are no coincidences...

all prophesies have led us to the moments we are living right now...

will the country at the heart of the middle east, divided into 4 pieces come back together?

Iraq offered Kurdistan to break away and form a nation...

Taliban has agreed to peace now, before US troops pull out...

Hamas is recognizing Israel

2 states are forming ready to become a Nation of one people...

the Will of God is Peace, and not even Neocons can change it, for it is written...

[Kari Lynn]

I was reading the beginning of this thread, "The gathering of 33 bloodlines." and my curiousity is piqued. Some questions arise, and wondered if you might have the answers?
1. where are they gathering the 33 bloodlines to?
2. Who are in the 33 bloodlines?
and
3. if there are humans/Earthlings in the 33. how would we know who is, and which bloodline?

[thunder24]

" O the of old shall become new again, the dust on the pages be blown by the wind. Read the written page in unseen ink, figure out who controlles and that will be ur link. 33 have come, and 33 have gone, Time for 7 billion to sing THE HARMONIOUS SONG.......peace"

peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

been an exciting year, I was contacted by a professor interested in moving forward with my project to increase the distance between charging on an electric vehicle by 300%...

My system was slammed right after that by a wicked virus, had to recreate part of the project so have been staying away from online communications, have a seperate computer now just for popping into Avalon...

I agree with Bill that we have cleared the point of no return and are moving back from the brink as those in control are losing their grip over us...

a friend getting killed 1 year before the Mayan Calendar ends (and the Federal Reserve 100 years) was a warning but not one I will change my path from...

we're in this for the fight, and I see us winning....

I'm around though not speaking, interesting year for many by the looks of it...

Keep the faith...

[Rocky_Shorz]

for all of you that have been watching, I put the 33 in my left hand...

the market is tanking... -800 points... having fun yet bankers?

gas dropped 25% since I tucked speculators in that hand...

you have cost the world trillions from your greed...

why should the freefall stop?

trying for war? stopped that, Iran is listening to my whispers, as they should...

money means nothing to me, ot those who matter, it is created for survival...

banks are on an island that is sinking...

I could toss the lifeline, but they feel good crushed in that hand...

time for all to listen, my whispers are heard by those meant to hear...

I speak to the angels watching over us, which has different meaning to all who see this...

while I have hope...

they will stand by me...

where is Palestine, why are oil companies allowed to continue to gouge America?

State owned Stations...
State owned Refineries...

do oil men need to get smacked, or speculators on wall street...

sands in the hour glass are running low...

earth changes are mans enemy, we are all brothers in our future...

stand together, love together the way we are meant to be...

the 7th to sainthood is complete, a woman with cancer preventing her from having a baby is having one...

final hurdle, the world is good, so live it and love every day... it only gets better...

[Rocky_Shorz]

oh and for all of you political Dorks spreading doom and gloom about unemployment, 4 moths ago, what used to take a 15 minute drive to work now takes 40 minutes so many dang people are trying to get to work in front of me...

Stop the political manipulation, end the Fed that has sucked from America for 99 years...

and stop the insanity, Vertical farms being built now all over the world are going to be able to feed all of us, we don't need you playing god because your pile of gold is shrinking, it's a little world, and we're all here together.

it's time for a country in the middle east, the divisions are just hurting all of us...

so much to share, but new free energy inventions need to be allowed into America, there is no need for more nukes. putting them in Seniors homes will pay for their social security. time to run the world smart, and not out of greed.

I'm here to help, and time is short...

[spiritwind]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s320x320/156288_149003688566836_2075174667_n.jpg

This sums it all up for me.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I wonder if any bankers stumbled across this thread and what I wrote a few posts back and looked at the market close... down 17.11

everyone will wake up...

even bankers... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I know Avalon is being watched, and for good reason...

as a group we just came together, absorbed inbound energy to prevent quakes, moved storm clouds over the drought states...

turned a disastrous 17% crop loss into 12%

we shielded the planet from an X-class Flare

and with the drop of energy and temps, we might have moved the planet back from the sun to cool down...

now for those who haven't been watching, we've just begun

if the group Charles brought to us fragmented as they are, needs help, they were right in coming to us in the first place but it is under our term, not theirs...

[Rocky_Shorz]

talk on the street is QE3 is coming...

banks are sitting on Trillions, they refuse to release...

so the Fed is printing up another $600B to give them more thinking it is going to help...

it helps raise prices on commodities, again this is all for Wall Street and Bankers...

this is killing Main Street...

We the People Demand this time it roll out as a trickle up program

$600B/300M people = $2000 / person

send them out to everyone with one rule, it can only buy American products and services with only 30 days to spend it

the shelves will be emptied and Manufacturers will hire for ramping to full production

all companies producing their products with more than 5% overseas, don't qualify which will bring production back home to put people to work.

Bankers don't know how to put people back to work, and I'm listening to see if any politician has a clue...

in September when these discussions start, we need Millions from Main Street marching saying NO MORE!!! Occupy Wall Street was created so bankers are forced to listen...

Anonymous...

Lock and Load...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was just reading about Bill and the Crystal Knight project and it reminded me of what someone had said a few years ago, they had a Mayan reference chart that looks at our Birthday and year and gives a category. She said I was a Blue Crystal Knight, looking for an online explanation, ran across this...


Blue Night is your Conscious Self - who you are and who you are becoming.
Blue night is the dark mystery within, the journey into self, that place to which you can always retreat to garner the gifts of your process subjectively. You are being asked to enter into and explore your process subjectively. Blue Night is the immense field of potential found in the depths of human emotion and feeling. The touch of Blue Night is like the moment you crawl into bed and feel yourself surrounded by warmth, darkness and peace.

Blue Night's abyss holds the potent evolutionary playing field of all possibility. Here, as in the aboriginal dreamtime, there are no distinctions between then and now, real or imagined, dream or dreamer. In this expanded field, all things are not only possible but are constantly in the process of creation. In the framework of dreamtime, limiting constructs of "ordinary reality" such as time, space, and linear causality are freed into an expanded system, with unlimited access to ALL realities.

Dreamtime holds powerful opportunities. It is a field where potential, past, and future are held in the same matrix as the present moment. If such a construct is foreign to you, stretch your mind and entertain the possibility that you could help to dream a different reality into being. Enter into the mystery where reality is actually created.

In becoming a conscious dreamer, you can assist in literally creating a new reality for yourself, as well as constributing to the larger dream that is emerging. By focusing on this creation, your thoughts and intentions are projected at superluminal speeds across the crystal grid network that encompasses universes. This energetic field seeds, supports, and empowers the creation of an unfolding reality.

At a certain point, when a critical threshold of energy has been focused on a clear intent such as world peace, the underlying constructs of reality shift and a new reality begins filtering into human experience. Make no mistake: great change is seeded by conscious dreamers who understand and know that they are co-creating the larger dream.

Among other things, the dreamfield will bring to the surface your psychological polarities and core issues. These are the belief constructs you learn from society and experience, such as likes and dislikes, values and attitudes. You naturally attract the situation that promises integration, but through conditioning and habitual behaviour, you may choose to compensate, staying in a fixed pattern to protect your position. This choice will create only momentary relief, because the issues will keep being drawn back to be integrated. Thus, you may often find whatever is blocked or hidden manifesting into your consciousness through a dream, a body symptom, or a relationship. Often you may resist the new and the unknown. You may avoid going over your "growth edge", because it may be asking for a shift in your underlying belief structures. Yet profound growth is possible through working with this charged material. Through following it into the darkness, you bring into the dreamfield the light that will carry you to wholeness and fulfillment.

In working with the growth edge in your dreamfield, often it is important to catalyze enough energy to free the stuckness and fixed patterns. By following or amplifying the feeling, your increased awareness will lead to the root of the issue thas has been separated from consciousness. Hidden within the unused channels of your perception are clues to the mystery that will integrate and release the restrictive pattern.

A meditation for Blue Night is, "I am the darkness that is the light and the stillness that is the dancing." This meditation perfectly describes the paradoxical energy of Blue Night, the place of darkness from which all light emanates, the no-form abyss that contains all possibility. In finding this still point of Blue Night, you can access any expression of the light. The energy of Blue Night simply asks you to be still, to allow that expression to take shape from the darkness. From the darkness of Blue Night emerges the Essence Self. Sit in stillness, embracing the journey of insight and integration.

The colour of Blue Night is black, which represents the womb of the larger self, the receptive condition necessary to receive the light fully. Black is also an access route to the wisdom of the unconscious, the mystery of the abyss where you can tap into the collective dreamfield for insight and creative ideas. Blue Night also includes the shades of gray, symbolic of the merging of light with the darkness. If you wish to work with the energy of Blue Night, visualize black.
Blue Eagle is your Higher Self & Guide.

Blue Eagle reminds you to step powerfully into your commitment as a planetary server! Your assignment includes whatever furthers your personal evolution and the evolution of global mind. You are an awakener, a transformer, an empowered gloal visionary. In your vision, you have compassion for others, and your decisions are made in the light of global consciousness. Ask yourself how you might experience compassion toward self, the Earth, and others. Be guided towards types of work, relationships, places to live, and projects that will benefit the Earth and her creatures. Allow your spirit to expand. Soar on your spreading wings and planetary perspective. Affirm: "Through your, Gaia, I am also transformed! I am awakening as the return of divine love and light. We are all one. Gaia, as you awaken, I heal myself. As I awaken, you are healed, and together our petals open ecstatically to the new Sun of Flowers."

It is up to each one of us to hold a positive vision and affirmation, for the means by which this miracle will occur is through changes in the one affecting the greater whole.

Imagine the profound impact your loving thoughts have on planetary mind. You do make a difference! As you connect individually with the larger crystal grid network, your power is multiplied exponentially. This galactic grid is also known as the Mayan cobweb.

The greatest gift you can offer to the planet is to simply be the love. Believe in yourself and your dreams and visions! Remember your special gifts, your path of service on Earth, your promise to serve the light. Everything you are connects to the greater whole. You are starseeded! You have the vision of the eagle. Believe in your dreams. You are the hope and the vision revealed... link (http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/Pages/blue_crys_night.html)

those who have quietly watched my dreams and visions over the last 10 years, aren't surprised by what it says...

the grid is continuing to grow as more and more are waking, and as we are connecting to those outside of earth...

Avalon is a gathering of Spirits at a time when it is critical for all of us to meet...

thanks again Bill for putting this all together...

[Rocky_Shorz]

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[sygh]

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Thank you for this very interesting information, Rocky. Long time no read from you. Not your fault. I'm the one who hasn't been here.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Thank you for this very interesting information, Rocky. Long time no read from you. Not your fault. I'm the one who hasn't been here.

glad to see you back, what kept you away?

I feel like the battle is raging between the factions of the 33...

just glanced at the market and see it closed at...

13,333 up .07%

it's the 13th the Typhoon 3 is on course 33 5...

coincidence or is someone trying to wash North Korea away?

[Rocky_Shorz]

well all of the countries that are a part of mine are becoming part of the conflict...

my plans to create a middle east nation are moving forward. all current countries will be changed to a state in the nation. The borders will come down so everyone can travel freely between them. Once religions have what they were waiting for, peace will become the norm.

Bush Cartel is under the microscope...

Bankers are pushed to the edge of collapse

We could have done this the easy way, now I want to see the Palestine state, it has been held back for long enough...

Peace is the goal and the answer...

the one thing the PTB wanted was to stay hidden, their pawns are dropping like flies, it won't be long until the ones causing all this conflict through the world are brought to justice.

Obama is standing in the middle of a storm, he is pushing back the shadow government and allowing all of their secrets to be exposed...

going to be an exciting 4 years...

[TargeT]

Obama is standing in the middle of a storm, he is pushing back the shadow government and allowing all of their secrets to be exposed...

going to be an exciting 4 years...

sure seems like he's just stirring the pot, not pushing back anything at all, in fact it seems he's deep in with the wrong people & as guilty as the rest...

in your middle eastern country how do you plan on dealing with the old hatreds between sub groups like the suni & sheites & kurds etc... ?

[sygh]

Been bogged down with work and school. Just a few more months and I'll be done. Well, for awhile anyway. Have a capstone, it's a freebee... all proceeds go to the college. Doing a Sustainable Symposium, first of it's kind where I live. After that, it's work, work, work.

So, the families are still at it. What say you as to the legitimacy of Charles predictions concerning what those who were interfering had in store for us in the, now, next 4 years?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Obama is standing in the middle of a storm, he is pushing back the shadow government and allowing all of their secrets to be exposed...

going to be an exciting 4 years...

sure seems like he's just stirring the pot, not pushing back anything at all, in fact it seems he's deep in with the wrong people & as guilty as the rest...

in your middle eastern country how do you plan on dealing with the old hatreds between sub groups like the suni & sheites & kurds etc... ?

Hatred was taught...

I'll shut down the country and have parties until they forget why they hated anyone...

music and dance can be very healing... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Been bogged down with work and school. Just a few more months and I'll be done. Well, for awhile anyway. Have a capstone, it's a freebee... all proceeds go to the college. Doing a Sustainable Symposium, first of it's kind where I live. After that, it's work, work, work.

So, the families are still at it. What say you as to the legitimacy of Charles predictions concerning what those who were interfering had in store for us in the, now, next 4 years?

4 years? I'm hoping we survive the next 4 weeks... ;)

Nimitz is steaming for the middle east, Russia has a nuke team inside of Iran to see if they broke any rules, if the answer is yes, war begins, if no, well Israel is smacking down Gaza for launching bottle rockets.

we'll have to see how stupid they want to be...

I think Fulford has much of what is happening laid out in his blog, financial wars are the worst we'll have to live through...

Build Vertical Farms in communities...

Jobs and food is always a good thing...

buy seeds...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Having Russian Nuclear inspectors show up in Iran on a snap inspection since this war began has me worried...

They pulled the fuel rods out of the reactor...

Dirty bomb false flag attack from Iran?

or locking down material to prepare for an attack...

15 of 30 of the ones killed in Gaza were Leaders, so far it is luck...

the Rocket pointed at Jerusalem hit a Palestine village in the West bank...

Bethlehem had a rocket fly over... is that a flip off to Peace?

we can still stop these neocons...

direct peace to Gaza...

The ones who attacked in Libya, are now firing out of Egypt into Israel.

The Hamas Military Leader was working on the final draft of a long term peace agreement.

Israel took out the one who was preventing this war...

Iran/Hezbollah were the ones launching rockets to get this all started.

stop this from both sides NOW!!!

no ground invasion, let Egypt have a chance to calm things down...

[Rocky_Shorz]

caught Net & Yahoo online tweeting and he read my response...

connected...

now at least he'll have a voice of reason to listen to... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Ynet: #Israel PM Netanyahu to convene senior ministers tonight to consider ceasefire proposal; deal said to be possible "within 24 hours."


whistles innocently...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Avital Leibovich: Unbelievable but true: 111 #Israelis wounded today...

saw her on an interview today, joked with her to look at the camera, not the interviewer... ;)

she handles PR for IDF, started talking with her in the last Gaza war...

[Rocky_Shorz]

ok Palestine is recognized as a state by the UN, Golan Heights and Jerusalem are on the agenda for Friday...

Syria is having planes and choppers shot out of the sky, 4-5 yesterday, Opposition forces are within a Kilometer of Assad's stronghold, the war is almost done...


Lebanon's little chimp is screaming to raise a lynch mob, but no one is listening...

Iran, your proxies are almost done...

now, as leaders, you can do the right thing and separate church from state and allow the people to run their country...

Nuclear inspectors commented they don't understand why you aren't racing to finish a bomb, so they don't have that reason to attack...

hanging and stoning people with a voice needs to stop, and I am your opposition, you have no chance of winning...


Flash of light or voice of reason, it's your choice...

[Rocky_Shorz]

internet shut down in Syria, no phones...

all flights are cancelled, pray for the people...

[sygh]

Rocky,
Thanks for the news. Tried to get back sooner. We must work together now.

Just listened to Geroge Green again, after many years. My GOD, how on the mark he was/is. I feel ready. Does anyone else feel the need to meditate together? After understanding a bit more, it has become apparent we should be using water as a catalist for our meditation, all of us together. Let us ask for guideance from the creative forces. Let us focus on the white light with the golden dot. Does this sound crazy? I would have thought so 20 years ago. Now is the time. Let us cleanse ourselves utilizing the purple light prior to the united meditation. What date shall we all meet? All of us, as many Avalonians and those from Camelot as we can get.

Hope you see this quickly.
Robin

[Rocky_Shorz]

now we have top Sheiks in Lebanon

#Hezbollah official Sheikh Zeid al-Daher (Shiite) has returned to #Saida & is commencing with his duties in resistance after being injured...

Sheikh Ahmed al-Assir, (Sunni) headlines condemnation of Syrian regime, Hezbollah and its Iranian backers. http://tinyurl.com/7ceqsv8 #Saida

opposite sides of the battle both in a coastal town of Lebanon...

gun shots being fired in the city...

Israel just announced 200,000 more homes to be built in Jerusalem on Palestine lands in reply to the 2 State agreement by the UN

King Morsi just announced completion of the Islamic Constitution for #Egypt...

I think it's time for the US to close all embassies and recall every one of our troops from the middle east...

this isn't our war...

none of them want Christians there, so give them what they want...

We'll save Trillions by saying we pass on WW III


Water for peace, a total cleansing... would you suggest Tsunami, or 40 days and 40 nights of rain...

[Kiforall]

now we have top Sheiks in Lebanon

#Hezbollah official Sheikh Zeid al-Daher (Shiite) has returned to #Saida & is commencing with his duties in resistance after being injured...

Sheikh Ahmed al-Assir, (Sunni) headlines condemnation of Syrian regime, Hezbollah and its Iranian backers. http://tinyurl.com/7ceqsv8 #Saida

opposite sides of the battle both in a coastal town of Lebanon...

gun shots being fired in the city...

Israel just announced 200,000 more homes to be built in Jerusalem on Palestine lands in reply to the 2 State agreement by the UN

King Morsi just announced completion of the Islamic Constitution for #Egypt...

I think it's time for the US to close all embassies and recall every one of our troops from the middle east...

this isn't our war...

none of them want Christians there, so give them what they want...

We'll save Trillions by saying we pass on WW III


Water for peace, a total cleansing... would you suggest Tsunami, or 40 days and 40 nights of rain...

Tried to message Onyx Knight about my daughter's dreams with the aquatic beings. Another Avaloniain in high demand lol.

Tsunamis- No problem ( or so I'm told )

She's seen the energy sphere inside the city and how it works, helped them slap a submarine out of the way the other night.

Could be useful allies.

[Kiforall]

S***, Just remembered a dream I had a couple of days ago.

Three water vortex's coming out of the sea, coming inland.

As soon as they touched shore they ignited into fiery tornados.

[Rocky_Shorz]

not everyone ignores me...


Netanyahu deputy Bogie Yaalon says heard nothing to confirm report Britain & France might recall their envoys from Israel.

Russia and US both said they had ships coming into the area for Embassy personnel removal...

I don't see 1st world countries getting ready to evacuate Iran...

[Rocky_Shorz]

President Obama, Net&Yahoo just slapped you in the face...

why are you even considering putting American troops in harms way to protect them...

Russia, Germany and France gave Syria the technology to produce the weapons, it's about time to let them clean up their mess...

get your mind back into America, fire up the presses and let the greenbacks roll...

State Banks directly from the treasury...

cut the central banks free to deal with their $1200 Trillion in Derivatives...

we can buy America back for $450 Million, the price originally paid to own America...

don't renew their contract, it can be cancelled at any time, you already pissed off the 1%, might as well put the final nail in their coffin...

speaking of Coughin, hey Bush, guess that $6 Million rejuvenation in Japan didn't help...

[Rocky_Shorz]

It's a start...


DUBLIN -- Diplomatic efforts to end Syria's civil war moved forward Thursday with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton joining Russia's foreign minister and the U.N. peace envoy to the Arab country for extraordinary three-way talks that suggested Washington and Moscow might finally unite behind a strategy as the Assad regime weakens... link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/syria-chemical-weapons_n_2249546.html?utm_hp_ref=tw)

In Washington, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said intelligence reports raise fears that an increasingly desperate Syrian President Bashar Assad is considering using his chemical weapons arsenal – which the U.S. and Russia agree is unacceptable.

"I think there is no question that we remain very concerned, very concerned," Panetta said, "that, as the opposition advances, in particular in Damascus, that regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons."

It was unclear whether Assad might target rebels within Syria or bordering countries, but growing concern over such a scenario was clearly adding urgency to discussions in Ireland's capital.

On the sidelines of a human rights conference, Clinton gathered with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and mediator Lakhdar Brahimi for about 40 minutes to look for a strategy the international community could rally around to end Syria's 21-month civil war.

"We have talked a little bit about how we can work out hopefully a process that will get Syria back from the brink," Brahimi said after the meeting ended...

[Rocky_Shorz]

12:12:12 we still don't have peace, Islam has risen up looking for the 12th, we have Israel planning building that will divide Palestine again, and Hamas is so mad he is ready to take Iran's broom and sweep Israel our of the area...

later in his speech he brought up wanting a few cities back for returning Pals...

so ignoring the starting Rhetoric to keep the Right Wingers happy, there is hope in moving towards peace.

It's not what they are saying, it is we who have gathered are creating, melding the world ahead, woven in peace... We rule...

Can Ben Fulford's latest be true? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48487-Benjamin-Fulford-s-Latest-Adventures&p=594634&viewfull=1#post594634)


The effort to start shipping North American oil to Asia comes amid a glut (thanks to new technologies) in North American fossil fuel supplies. That is why it seems to be no coincidence that the heads of biggest non-North American oil powers (the Bushes control Iraq) all got “sick” simultaneously.

In this context, North American LPG and LNG is being offered to Asian buyers for long term contracts at a 30-50% discount from Middle Eastern prices, according to a major Japanese oil products importer.

Until recently the Japanese were forced to pay the highest prices in the world for oil and had to rely on the Middle East for almost all of it supplies. Any attempts to buy from elsewhere in the world were ruthlessly suppressed by Western oil oligarchs.
Negotiations have just started and the shift will take a few years (the time needed to build pipelines) using current technology.

Perhaps the sudden change of heart has to do with the fact that devices like this one are now available at Japanese electronics markets:
http://en.akihabaranews.com/118056/e...on-salty-water

Here is a link to where you can actually order one of these devices online (if you can navigate through the Japanese):
http://www.green-house.co.jp/campaig...pecial/bousai/

The item is in the bottom right corner of the page. A Japanese reader of mine brought one of these generators to me and demonstrated it so I can say I have seen it with my own eyes. It runs for 120 hours on a small bag of salt water. Maybe soon, instead of charging the batteries for your mobile, you will just say “pass the salt.”

was it a coincidence the 7.3 quake hit Japan following release of this info?

[sygh]

I am reminded of how this thread began and how what we are going through now is beening orchestrated by mass mind control. The effects of tramma on the human mind. Cathy O'Brian, what a voice for the truth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7aZTwMyLQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3PN-YRs5N8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKMP-v7qb-Q

[sygh]

Bringing up Cathy O'Brian both now, and so many years ago when I first heard her story has always made me wonder why she was allowed to tell her story when the information she has revealed was/is so damning. But then, who would believe Mary Magdalene, other than...? And no, I don't think the only truth out there coinsides with death, if anyone is reading this and wondering. This leads me back to Charles and what happened here, at Avalon, with his comings and goings. There is no doubt in my mind, Avalon took a hit. Divide and conquer. All he really had to do was come in and cause turmoil, the rest we sort of did to ourselves naturally.

I don't deny Bill wanting peace or happiness but I am sad, Bill, that you stopped interviewing. And it's not because I cannot think for myself or take responsibility for not thinking for myself, it is because your interviews were so DARNED INTERESTING! You gave many of us the strength in numbers we needed to go out and ask our own set of questions. But it was good to take a break. And if you never interviewed another person, what you have already accomplished has taken on a life of its own and grown exponentially. No wonder you needed a break.

No need to wonder any longer about how much the advent of Charles had to do with the silence which followed on Avalon. What a smear campaign, or how much the silence had to do with his threats. It was good to let the dust settle. Charles gave us a shocking first hand experience to see how easy it was to demonstrate what mass mind control looks like, and how quickly it affected the whole alternative community one way or another, for a moment in time. He also showed us how easily someone can be used without their knowledge to promote another's agenda. It was a great lesson in how the mind functions but it was only a parlor trick, compared to what we have been witnessing on a global scale, as shown to us by the machine. And, after all, it is a machine which makes it possible to spread the word so quickly. But we must remember a couple of things; the people who are spreading "the agenda" are doing it out of fear, fear of starvation, fear of no alternatives, fear of torture or pain, fear for their children, fear of death. The survival instinct is a strong motovator and is not clearly understood by the owner/operator..

Evil, and yes, that is the correct word, can be so hard to comprehend. Evil within one's self, evil within someone else... many don't even believe evil exists, let alone someone would purposely use it against someone else. But we do understand the concept of evil, and we know that when "evil-doers" are about, they must be stopped. And who do we trust on this rock to inform us of who those evil-doers are? Did Clinton tell us, was he honest? Did Bush inform us? Has Obama told us the truth?

It is almost unfathomable to think that the ilk of Bohemian Grovers would be willing to give up their own spirit for the sake of wealth, or fame, or control (whatever it is they aspire to, or most fear in some cases, I suppose) knowing full well that there are others who control them! They willingly hypnotize themselves en mass, in order to carry out whatever the agenda is, no matter what they must do to make it happen. This is how it is done. How bizzare! Many of our leaders actually gather to sacrifice "care" and other such thingies that keep them from thinking for themselves willingly, and then they go out there and lead us.

It is all about intent, ALL about intent. Intent comes in many forms. In the physical world, it could be a set of architectural drawings, or a business plan, it can even be the bible. It is a vision that grows into a mission, upon which a business plan is written. It is a set of instructions for a number of goals designed to take place in chronological order... as such that when one part of the plan is carried out (action is taken), a very specific or general result will occur... But it IS all about INTENT.

I digress. Yes, Charles was a wonder boy. But he, and his handlers shouldn't kid themselves if they think the next wave will be weaker. The sad part of all of this is the fact that these people are slaves to their own agenda. They are trapped in a net of their own making. They should not be follwed, they should be pitied.

There are truths that supercede rational. Here are a couple of truths I'm sure of:

Cows eat grasses. There are no weeds. Nature is beauty. GMOs are extremely dangerous and should be halted immediately. Humans have a shelf life but they can go at any time. Life goes on after death of the body. The fracking process is a heinous crime against all nature. Desalinization is not the answer to water shortages. We already have what some call Zero Energy, it was a Tesla design and it is absolutely being held back. The US President is a puppet. September 11, 2001 is not 9-11, 9-1-1 is what we in the U.S. dial for help. The World Trade Cneter bombing was a very poorly written and executed HollywoodWash but it did the trick. The NWO thinks they have won but they have no idea what's in store for them because though they think they rule the world, there are still things that they have absolutely NO control over... and that, dear Avalonians is where you step in.

It is ALL about INTENT. In the 3rd dimention, it is the spirit, then the mental, then the physical! Sound the trumpets in the Spirit! It is all about intent. Let me repeat that, it is ALL about INTENT! Let the chips fall where they may.

[sygh]

I suppose I shouldn't have written so much.

[Rocky_Shorz]

actually, what you shared was wonderful, I didn't add on so it wasn't missed...


the game is on... hmm... although I'd still say Russia/US coordinateing their actions

US Navy Pulls Two Aircraft Carriers From Syria Shores (http://rt.com/usa/news/us-aircraft-stationed-turkey-236/)

Two aircraft carriers stationed off the Syrian coast were sent back to the US this week in a move that the Obama administration thought would ease tensions, but angered Turkish officials who hoped for significant US military presence in the region...



Russia Tells US To Back The Hell Off...
qSp1KDvs3NU
Rarely in the annals of modern history has a sovereign nation stated their position so strongly and clearly.
Russia is telling the West in general and the U.S. specifically to stop the rush toward an intervention in Syria, which the Russians see as inevitably starting a regional war in the Middle East which would grow into World War III.
They don’t want that.
So they are posting gigantic warning signs with their actions, seeing that their words have not been sufficient...



Russian Forces Take Syrian Chemical, Biological Weapons Under Control (http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/22/report-russian-forces-take-syrian-chemical-biological-weapons-under-control/)

The chemical warfare threat looming over Syria’s civil war and its neighbors has taken an epic turn with the announcement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov Saturday, Dec. 22, that “the Syrian government has “consolidated its chemical weapons in one or two locations amid a rebel onslaught and they are under control for the time being.”
He added that Russia, “which has military advisers training Syria’s military, has kept close watch over its chemical arsenal.”

Libya and Egypt is calming down, Russia has regained control of chemical weapons in Syria, and is looking for a country that will accept Assad...

Kurdistan is once again moving at breaking off from Iraq and starting an independent state...

we are moving the right direction, away from WW III and towards peace...

and as for mind control, we are no longer under theirs, they are under ours... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

now many of you have heard of Manifesting reality...

Ben Fulford brought me tidings of Joy this Holiday season...

"At the same time, two Kurdish families have been given control of vast oil fields in Northern Iraq with apparent Turkish agreement, according to MI6 and Turkish sources. The indications are that some sort of Sunni transnational alliance is emerging in the region and that the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are already on board... "


In the Middle-East, a move to revive the nation of Kurdistan, complete with control over massive oil fields, has slipped in under the radar. The Turks appear to have given a green light to this arrangement in exchange for promises of oil revenues, according to a Turkish government source... link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48487-Benjamin-Fulford-s-Latest-Adventures&p=613435&viewfull=1#post613435)

a little behind schedule, but happening...


Hey Bill, how is the new Bird Farm coming?

20028

[Rocky_Shorz]

while we've had a lot tossed at us lately, few have been watching the extremes in the weather going on in Australia, they have added 2 colors to their heat index, they are evacuating cities from floods, fires, getting slammed by tornadoes, that normally never hit, and at the same time snow storms...

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Wk8pUD46Lc2J_wej7y.SeA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/aussiemap2.jpg

I'm talking crazy for it all to be happening at once. Looking south I see melting going on in the Antarctic, why is it shrinking so fast? Of course it comes back, but what is causing such extreme temps hitting our planet. I don't see activity coming from the sun, so what else could be causing it?

Last year was the hottest year ever in America's history, we are going through changes while people are noticing it or not.

now recently everywhere I am seeing 33 again, last we heard they were divided, some pushing destruction while others are trying to help.

we have seen we can make changes, is it possible to do a group psychic experiment to cool down the planet in areas that are burning up?

I have some wonderful friends in Australia, I'm willing to give it a try if others are ready...

We Need Vertical Farms and need them now, if America is going to be hotter than last year, we're going to be a dust bowl in our growing area, food will become too expensive for many families with children to eat, this is really happening so hone your senses, open your mind to feel the planet, and let's see if we can't cool down this rock, even with China dumping out enough pollution to kill us all...

The time is now, so please gather...

forget the ripple, it was eliminated, time to get our minds back on track...

now...

[Rocky_Shorz]

The following posts come from an interesting conversation from another thread of a different topic. I have moved them to this new thread where the conversation can continue.

I can change the title if required.
Regards
Billy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Islam means will of God, most believe every breath you take is God's will to keep you living...

Lightning striking the heart of the Holiest site for Muslims has deep meaning.

For it to strike a deep pocket behind the division of Muslims says it all.

Most Muslims are very loving caring people, but they don't have mental institutions to heal so many broken minds that are so easily manipulated into violent acts.

Highly educated modern Muslims are working on changes, but it takes time to create the changes needed across the whole region.

The drug lords, use it as a control tool, twisting stone age texts to control weak minds.

Turkey is about to slip into a civil war, they have the largest army in the middle East, it is going to be messy, but the final step before creating a middle East nation that includes all the current states.

One people, many religions all with equal rights under the laws of man.

Hard-line states will soften, or their brightest minds will leave.

I was always King David, through divine destiny, God placed my throne in Elam, which fulfils a prophesy for all religions...

[Rocky_Shorz]

a good friend from this forum sent me this in reply to that post,

"So, Rocky, my friend,

The quote I highlighted from your last "14th Anniversary" Thread comment sounds much like your are prophesying.

As pilgrims on the journey of Truth, it is imperative we abandon all theological LITERATURE, because it is ALL stories written by man.

Following the evidence, one will discover:

The Royal Bloodline, With The Divine Right To Rule", began in Sumer; later to be known as Babylon.
From there, Sumer spread this Royal Bloodline into Egypt sometime around 2,500 to 2,000 BC. (Old Testament myth about Abraham of Ur, the central city of Sumer)
Phoenicia, a later derivative of the Sumer/Babylonian (infected) Bloodline disease, spread this "Divine Right To Rule" contamination around the world.
There never were Hebrew Slaves in Egypt. Those who the Old Testiment refers to as "Hebrews" were - from the evidence - the Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt who were run-out of town sometime around 1,400 BC.
King David was one of these Hyksos Pharaohs who ruled the Egyptian Empire (lands stretching far into Syria) from Tinnis, Egypt.
King Solomon, David's son built his famous Solomon's Temple in Tinnis, Egypt, not in Jerusalem, Israel. It's all there in the archeology.
There never were Hebrews, God never promised them any land, the entire story was fabricated so that the decedents of the Hyksos Pharaohs could justify the genocide of the occupants of the Land of Canaan.


Here's a good place to research what I've told you:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4

Listen at least to the 00:25:45 mark.

Here's another one that gives you a general understanding of the TRUE history of the Jews:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ris3YCcmYk

You should listen to the entire video....

Wishing you Love.... for eternity....

--------------------

my reply:

I have delivered messages from God, that were followed 3 days to the minute by disasters of biblical proportions...

almost a million dead...

I wasn't a believer when this began, hadn't opened a bible in 20+ years

Abraham was a Kurd in Kurdish lands

the ark was found in Kurdish lands at 13,000 feet

the oldest spiritual center in the world was only 12 miles from Abraham's birth place

I don't know how to explain it my friend, but don't not believe by stories twisting the truth of reality...

my brother in law was the monarch of Kurdistan

he was packed up by CIA and sent to North Dakota

we went to the same college in Fargo, was in the same class and never spoke

we went to minneapolis and continued at mit, same classes and never spoke

I moved to Boston, he moved to San Diego

I moved to San Diego and lived in the same complex he did, never met

he moved to Phoenix, met and married my sister

they had the prince

he died from cancer from Saddam's poison dropped on the Kurds

before he died, he shared with me, that being the only true bloodline uncle, I would become the monarch when he passed.

I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?

when my daughter's best friend Danielle van Dam was kidnapped raped and murdered, it knocked me to my knees

after not opening the bible for 20 years, I held it in my hands and said show me what I need to know.

it opened to the end of Daniel

I looked at the numbers...

in Iran a viel caught fire that seperated men from women in their holiest mosque, it landed on their Quran, on it's 1335th anniversary torching several pages.

it was open to Jeremiah, the prophesy of Elam...

Daniel gave a number of 1290 at the end...

I was 45 years old...

Daniel's prophecy spoke of the object that caused desecration would be destroyed...

I was born on the 1290th year after it was first worshiped...


I live in San Diego, if there ever was a promised land, it is here...

I don't want to leave...

I am happy

my throne is in Kurdistan

I am staying here...

==========================

when I first met God in my dreams, I told him I didn't believe he was God, if he was, give me tomorrow's lottery numbers...

the ground kissers in the great hall went silent, I had asked for proof of who I was meeting in my dreams...

he gave me 2 numbers...

6 and 17 - click the last blue dot in my signature to see the ticket, look it up for yourself... the numbers came up

both numbers came up the following day, they are also the answer to the riddle of the beast, they are the Key of David.

God gave man 7 Churches, 7 Angels and 7 Stars to teach them the truth of the Trinity, for without belief in the 1 Father, 1 Son and 1 Holy Ghost, man would be lost to the beast...

777-111=666

I still don't know how 7 stars are involved in teaching us of the trinity, unless they are ETs

I have a Blue Dude, that says he has been around since the Pharaohs watching over me...

he says he is protecting me to make sure no one interferes with the fulfillment of prophecy

I haven't died from lead poisoning yet, and with the toes I have stepped on, he must be pretty good...

one person asked if I have ever considered the one I called the blue dude, was Jesus

he has never given me his name, no matter how many times I have asked...

[thunder24]

...I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?


...my throne is in Kurdistan...


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mapas/mapa_futureworld_small.jpg

noticed this last night on Gordon micheal Scallions future map of the world....

if you take a look at what today would be modern day kurdistan on the future map, it is left standing in generally the same shape as is presented today...with (what looks to me) like the majority of elam is still above water...

[observer]

a good friend from this forum sent me this in reply to that post,

"So, Rocky, my friend,

The quote I highlighted from your last "14th Anniversary" Thread comment sounds much like your are prophesying.

As pilgrims on the journey of Truth, it is imperative we abandon all theological LITERATURE, because it is ALL stories written by man.

Following the evidence, one will discover:


The Royal Bloodline, With The Divine Right To Rule", began in Sumer; later to be known as Babylon.
From there, Sumer spread this Royal Bloodline into Egypt sometime around 2,500 to 2,000 BC. (Old Testament myth about Abraham of Ur, the central city of Sumer)
Phoenicia, a later derivative of the Sumer/Babylonian (infected) Bloodline disease, spread this "Divine Right To Rule" contamination around the world.
There never were Hebrew Slaves in Egypt. Those who the Old Testiment refers to as "Hebrews" were - from the evidence - the Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt who were run-out of town sometime around 1,400 BC.
King David was one of these Hyksos Pharaohs who ruled the Egyptian Empire (lands stretching far into Syria) from Tinnis, Egypt.
King Solomon, David's son built his famous Solomon's Temple in Tinnis, Egypt, not in Jerusalem, Israel. It's all there in the archeology.
There never were Hebrews, God never promised them any land, the entire story was fabricated so that the decedents of the Hyksos Pharaohs could justify the genocide of the occupants of the Land of Canaan.


Here's a good place to research what I've told you:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4

Listen at least to the 00:25:45 mark.

Here's another one that gives you a general understanding of the TRUE history of the Jews:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ris3YCcmYk

You should listen to the entire video....

Wishing you Love.... for eternity....

[....snip]


Rocky, my friend,

I sent you those videos in private because I didn't want to distract this thread. Since you have made it public, I will make my reply public as well. Note: this is in reference to the Thread that this discussion was split-away from.

I wanted you to see how the Zionists Jews have no legitimate claim to the land of Canaan. It's all in the archaeological record.

Your reply to me suggests that perhaps you should seek some professional help....

[Rocky_Shorz]

...I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?


...my throne is in Kurdistan...


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mapas/mapa_futureworld_small.jpg

noticed this last night on Gordon micheal Scallions future map of the world....

if you take a look at what today would be modern day kurdistan on the future map, it is left standing in generally the same shape as is presented today...with (what looks to me) like the majority of elam is still above water...


Well it also explains why the ark landed there, where civilization began again.

And observer, 9/11 was Abaddon rising, way beyond the perception of the common mind, but when all of this began for me.

What I shared was why I believe there is a lot of truths in ancient texts, and warnings passed on for man to heed.

I am a God fearing man, for reasons you will never understand by your reply.

There are no professionals that can help me, maybe upper level Templars or Freemasons, but there isn't a listing for them in the white pages.

My daughters best friend was 7 when she was killed by a monster, that's when my dreams of battling a 500 foot Giant turned religious, suddenly there was someone to help, that gave me the gifts I needed to face my foe.

This isn't a distraction from 9/11 truths, it is the only place in the world it is written.

Remember you may not believe in anything beyond our world, but those in the background running this world are fanatics in their beliefs...

[observer]

As I said in my Private Message to you, Rocky, the Archaeological Evidence doesn't support any of the Biblical Claims in the Old Testament. Any legitimate investigation Must follow the trail of evidence. Did you even watch the videos I offered?


Rocky_Shorz - "Remember you may not believe in anything beyond our world, but those in the background running this world are fanatics in their beliefs... "

Rocky, since I joined this Forum, back in '10, and in the old Avalon Forum before that, I have been one of the few voices promoting an hyperdimensional control of THIS reality. "Those in the background" who are the Global Elite have always gotten their marching orders from hyperdimensional entities "beyond our world". The evidence suggests that all prophecy - prophecy dating far into antiquity - has been manipulated by these hyperdimensional entities.

Believe-in whom you may think you are, but allow me to suggest, your belief system has been artificially tampered with through Artificially Implanted dogma.

Nothing Humanity has ever been told is true.

[observer]

...I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?


...my throne is in Kurdistan...


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mapas/mapa_futureworld_small.jpg

noticed this last night on Gordon micheal Scallions future map of the world....

if you take a look at what today would be modern day kurdistan on the future map, it is left standing in generally the same shape as is presented today...with (what looks to me) like the majority of elam is still above water...

thunder, allow me to suggest listening to another Ralph Elis video. Elis is one of the world's leading scholars offering alternate Biblical interpretations, based on Archaeological Evidence discovered over the past 100+ years.

Elis will explain in this video (or better yet, get the book) how the New Testament story of Jesus was based on the life of a King from Edessa, Ancient Kurdistan, modern day Şanlıurfa, Turkey.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsNOAUMyKIo

Please take the time to listen to the Elis Videos that I've offered. Without foundational understanding, one cannot possibly have an intelligent debate.

add/edit:

Here's another Elios Video in the series on Jesus, King of Edessa. You might find more information contained within this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7aczBdyFw0

[Selkie]

As I said in my Private Message to you, Rocky, the Archaeological Evidence doesn't support any of the Biblical Claims in the Old Testament. Any legitimate investigation Must follow the trail of evidence. Did you even watch the videos I offered?


Rocky_Shorz - "Remember you may not believe in anything beyond our world, but those in the background running this world are fanatics in their beliefs... "

Rocky, since I joined this Forum, back in '10, and in the old Avalon Forum before that, I have been one of the few voices promoting an hyperdimensional control of THIS reality. "Those in the background" who are the Global Elite have always gotten their marching orders from hyperdimensional entities "beyond our world". The evidence suggests that all prophecy - prophecy dating far into antiquity - has been manipulated by these hyperdimensional entities.

Believe-in whom you may think you are, but allow me to suggest, your belief system has been artificially tampered with through Artificially Implanted dogma.

Nothing Humanity has ever been told is true.

I am so with you on this, observer. As long as we listen to them, we are trapped in their game. If we want out of their game, in other words, if we want out of the matrix, then we should stop listening to them.

[thunder24]

thunder, allow me to suggest listening to another Ralph Elis video. Elis is one of the world's leading scholars offering alternate Biblical interpretations, based on Archaeological Evidence discovered over the past 100+ years.

Elis will explain in this video (or better yet, get the book) how the New Testament story of Jesus was based on the life of a King from Edessa, Ancient Kurdistan, modern day Şanlıurfa, Turkey.



Without foundational understanding, one cannot possibly have an intelligent debate.

thankyou for the video offer... ill check it out...

jesus being based on a king in kurdistan lends more confirmation of what i think happened and is happening over there anyways...so thats great...

and i don't want to debate... but thankyou for the video observer

[observer]

I believe it was in Gerald Clark's (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65207-How-The-Anunnaki-Prevent-Disclosure&p=754547&viewfull=1#post754547) work where it was suggested that Noah's Ark was a circular craft, lending a new understanding of what was actually being reported. This was taken from descriptions found in the Sumerian Record.

If, perhaps, Noah's Biblical Arch was a craft able to leave the planet, wouldn't it make more common sense that all the animals of the world were saved in genetic test tubes, rather than literally in the flesh.

Now don't hold me to the "Gerald Clark" source, I can't index each and every bit of information I've run across. My memory tells me it was Clark.

Perhaps, the craft did land on Mound Ararat after the Flood Epoch. What has been presented as archaeological evidence for the Ark on Ararat, is nothing more than a geological formation.

It's always fun to take something that looks like evidence and morph it into your belief system.

add:
Look Here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65207-How-The-Anunnaki-Prevent-Disclosure&p=773904&viewfull=1#post773904), and Here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65207-How-The-Anunnaki-Prevent-Disclosure&p=774365&viewfull=1#post774365)

[Rocky_Shorz]

As I said in my Private Message to you, Rocky, the Archaeological Evidence doesn't support any of the Biblical Claims in the Old Testament. Any legitimate investigation Must follow the trail of evidence. Did you even watch the videos I offered?


Rocky_Shorz - "Remember you may not believe in anything beyond our world, but those in the background running this world are fanatics in their beliefs... "

Rocky, since I joined this Forum, back in '10, and in the old Avalon Forum before that, I have been one of the few voices promoting an hyperdimensional control of THIS reality. "Those in the background" who are the Global Elite have always gotten their marching orders from hyperdimensional entities "beyond our world". The evidence suggests that all prophecy - prophecy dating far into antiquity - has been manipulated by these hyperdimensional entities.

Believe-in whom you may think you are, but allow me to suggest, your belief system has been artificially tampered with through Artificially Implanted dogma.

Nothing Humanity has ever been told is true.

I think the first video was better than the last at tying reality to Bible "characters"

How many have ever thought of Jesus as a rebel leader with 30,000 fishermen in his army, or that Abraham had 300 commanders in his army...

Thank you so much for sharing those.

Through Washington's bloodline I am related to Egyptian Pharaohs through Scotland, I had never known that connection.

We had a thread a while back on Kimly? Bloodlines leading to Egypt, I will look it up once I get back to my computer...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey Billy,

Thanks for moving it away from 9/11, every time I start looking at the traitors in America my blood boils and the ground trembles...

7 - 6+ earthquakes since I started talking about all of this again...

I'm going to bring important threads across related to this subject as I keep searching, click the little blue arrows at the beginning of each post to view the discussions.


A 4000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia contains the specifications for an ark pre-dating the story of Noah (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/a-4000yearold-tablet-from-ancient-mesopotamia-contains-the-specifications-for-an-ark-predating-the-story-of-noah/story-fnjwl1aw-1226810293590)


IT'S a few notches on a 4000-year-old clay tablet. But what it reveals about the ancient biblical story of Noah's ark has scholars crowing the world over.

The British Museum yesterday put the recently deciphered clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia - now Iraq - on display.

It's claimed to be one of the most important archaeological discoveries ever.

What it contains are specifications for the legendary Ark which was said to have saved two of each animal - and a handful of humans - from a catastrophic flood.

But some of the details are different to the generally known version.

It describes a circular vessel known as a coracle, not the rectangular vessel of modern mythology.

"It was really a heart-stopping moment - the discovery that the boat was to be a round boat," the tablet's discoverer, Irving Finkel said. "That was a real surprise."


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/01/25/1226810/292690-845f8e00-8573-11e3-90a9-2f6f5b597dd3.jpg
The 4000 year old clay tablet containing the story of the Ark and the flood stands on display at the British Museum in London during the launch of the book 'The Ark Before Noah' by Irving Finkel, curator in charge of cuneiform clay tablets at the British Museum. (AP Photo/Sang Tan) Source: Supplied




The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel - two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area - made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.

Etched in the clay is one of the story's key elements: It describes how the animals must enter "two by two".

TOMB RAIDERS: The myth that drove two Germans to deface the Great Pyramid (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/why-did-two-german-hobbyists-deface-a-cartouche-of-khufu-inside-the-great-pyramid-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-atlantis/story-fnjwl1aw-1226802932762)
The British Museum says the detail contained in the tablet can be analysed by naval architects to determine if such a vessel could have actually sailed.

Mr Finkel is the British Museum assistant keeper of the Middle East. He is releasing a book on the tablet titled: "The Ark Before Noah".

"(The tablet is) one of the most important human documents ever discovered," he said.
And the newly revealed design, he said, was "perfect".

"It never sinks, it's light to carry."


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/01/25/1226810/293534-81151076-8573-11e3-90a9-2f6f5b597dd3.jpg

Coracle versus ocean-going streamlined design? Inset top, a sketch of the design of a common river-going coracle. Source: Supplied


But Finkel said that while the design appear sound, he isn't sure a "coracle" of that scale would have floated.

David Owen, professor of ancient Near Eastern studies at Cornell University, said the British Museum curator had made "an extraordinary discovery."

Elizabeth Stone, an expert on the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia at New York's Stony Brook University, said it made sense that ancient Mesopotamians would depict their mythological ark as round.

This is not the first time the ancient story of the ark has been found outside of the bible. But it is the earliest.

The flood story recurs in later Mesopotamian writings including the "Epic of Gilgamesh."

Finkel says the discovery may cause dissent among believers in the biblical story. When 19th-century British Museum scholars first learned from cuneiform tablets that the Babylonians had a flood myth, they were disturbed by its similarities to the story of Noah.

"Already in 1872 people were writing about it in a worried way - What does it mean that Holy Writ appears on this piece of Weetabix?" he joked to Fox News, referring to a cereal similar in shape to the tablet.

"I'm sure the story of the flood and a boat to rescue life is a Babylonian invention," he said.

A television documentary due to be broadcast later this year will follow attempts to build the ark according to the ancient manual.

Does Finkel think the ark was real?

"I don't think the ark existed - but a lot of people do," he said. "It doesn't really matter. The Biblical version is a thing of itself and it has a vitality forever."

¤=[Post Update]=¤

thanks Billy for pulling it away from 9/11 discussions, boils my blood and the ground starts rumbling... 7 6+ earthquakes since I started speaking of it again.


A 4000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia contains the specifications for an ark pre-dating the story of Noah (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/a-4000yearold-tablet-from-ancient-mesopotamia-contains-the-specifications-for-an-ark-predating-the-story-of-noah/story-fnjwl1aw-1226810293590)


IT'S a few notches on a 4000-year-old clay tablet. But what it reveals about the ancient biblical story of Noah's ark has scholars crowing the world over.

The British Museum yesterday put the recently deciphered clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia - now Iraq - on display.

It's claimed to be one of the most important archaeological discoveries ever.

What it contains are specifications for the legendary Ark which was said to have saved two of each animal - and a handful of humans - from a catastrophic flood.

But some of the details are different to the generally known version.

It describes a circular vessel known as a coracle, not the rectangular vessel of modern mythology.

"It was really a heart-stopping moment - the discovery that the boat was to be a round boat," the tablet's discoverer, Irving Finkel said. "That was a real surprise."


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/01/25/1226810/292690-845f8e00-8573-11e3-90a9-2f6f5b597dd3.jpg
The 4000 year old clay tablet containing the story of the Ark and the flood stands on display at the British Museum in London during the launch of the book 'The Ark Before Noah' by Irving Finkel, curator in charge of cuneiform clay tablets at the British Museum. (AP Photo/Sang Tan) Source: Supplied




The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel - two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area - made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.

Etched in the clay is one of the story's key elements: It describes how the animals must enter "two by two".

TOMB RAIDERS: The myth that drove two Germans to deface the Great Pyramid (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/why-did-two-german-hobbyists-deface-a-cartouche-of-khufu-inside-the-great-pyramid-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-atlantis/story-fnjwl1aw-1226802932762)
The British Museum says the detail contained in the tablet can be analysed by naval architects to determine if such a vessel could have actually sailed.

Mr Finkel is the British Museum assistant keeper of the Middle East. He is releasing a book on the tablet titled: "The Ark Before Noah".

"(The tablet is) one of the most important human documents ever discovered," he said.
And the newly revealed design, he said, was "perfect".

"It never sinks, it's light to carry."


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/01/25/1226810/293534-81151076-8573-11e3-90a9-2f6f5b597dd3.jpg

Coracle versus ocean-going streamlined design? Inset top, a sketch of the design of a common river-going coracle. Source: Supplied


But Finkel said that while the design appear sound, he isn't sure a "coracle" of that scale would have floated.

David Owen, professor of ancient Near Eastern studies at Cornell University, said the British Museum curator had made "an extraordinary discovery."

Elizabeth Stone, an expert on the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia at New York's Stony Brook University, said it made sense that ancient Mesopotamians would depict their mythological ark as round.

This is not the first time the ancient story of the ark has been found outside of the bible. But it is the earliest.

The flood story recurs in later Mesopotamian writings including the "Epic of Gilgamesh."

Finkel says the discovery may cause dissent among believers in the biblical story. When 19th-century British Museum scholars first learned from cuneiform tablets that the Babylonians had a flood myth, they were disturbed by its similarities to the story of Noah.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hey Billy, thanks for breaking it off from 9/11 discussions, just since I started bringing this all up again, the earth has started shaking, 7 6+ earthquakes...

I am going to bring threads relating to this subject as I work my way through Avalon to find the missing thread...

click the blue arrows to go to the discussion.


A 4000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia contains the specifications for an ark pre-dating the story of Noah (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/a-4000yearold-tablet-from-ancient-mesopotamia-contains-the-specifications-for-an-ark-predating-the-story-of-noah/story-fnjwl1aw-1226810293590)


IT'S a few notches on a 4000-year-old clay tablet. But what it reveals about the ancient biblical story of Noah's ark has scholars crowing the world over.

The British Museum yesterday put the recently deciphered clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia - now Iraq - on display.

It's claimed to be one of the most important archaeological discoveries ever.

What it contains are specifications for the legendary Ark which was said to have saved two of each animal - and a handful of humans - from a catastrophic flood.

But some of the details are different to the generally known version.

It describes a circular vessel known as a coracle, not the rectangular vessel of modern mythology.

"It was really a heart-stopping moment - the discovery that the boat was to be a round boat," the tablet's discoverer, Irving Finkel said. "That was a real surprise."


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/01/25/1226810/292690-845f8e00-8573-11e3-90a9-2f6f5b597dd3.jpg
The 4000 year old clay tablet containing the story of the Ark and the flood stands on display at the British Museum in London during the launch of the book 'The Ark Before Noah' by Irving Finkel, curator in charge of cuneiform clay tablets at the British Museum. (AP Photo/Sang Tan) Source: Supplied




The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel - two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area - made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.

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continued...



Etched in the clay is one of the story's key elements: It describes how the animals must enter "two by two".

TOMB RAIDERS: The myth that drove two Germans to deface the Great Pyramid (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/why-did-two-german-hobbyists-deface-a-cartouche-of-khufu-inside-the-great-pyramid-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-atlantis/story-fnjwl1aw-1226802932762)
The British Museum says the detail contained in the tablet can be analysed by naval architects to determine if such a vessel could have actually sailed.

Mr Finkel is the British Museum assistant keeper of the Middle East. He is releasing a book on the tablet titled: "The Ark Before Noah".

"(The tablet is) one of the most important human documents ever discovered," he said.
And the newly revealed design, he said, was "perfect".

"It never sinks, it's light to carry."


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/01/25/1226810/293534-81151076-8573-11e3-90a9-2f6f5b597dd3.jpg

Coracle versus ocean-going streamlined design? Inset top, a sketch of the design of a common river-going coracle. Source: Supplied


But Finkel said that while the design appear sound, he isn't sure a "coracle" of that scale would have floated.

David Owen, professor of ancient Near Eastern studies at Cornell University, said the British Museum curator had made "an extraordinary discovery."

Elizabeth Stone, an expert on the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia at New York's Stony Brook University, said it made sense that ancient Mesopotamians would depict their mythological ark as round.

This is not the first time the ancient story of the ark has been found outside of the bible. But it is the earliest.

The flood story recurs in later Mesopotamian writings including the "Epic of Gilgamesh."

Finkel says the discovery may cause dissent among believers in the biblical story. When 19th-century British Museum scholars first learned from cuneiform tablets that the Babylonians had a flood myth, they were disturbed by its similarities to the story of Noah.

"Already in 1872 people were writing about it in a worried way - What does it mean that Holy Writ appears on this piece of Weetabix?" he joked to Fox News, referring to a cereal similar in shape to the tablet.

"I'm sure the story of the flood and a boat to rescue life is a Babylonian invention," he said.

A television documentary due to be broadcast later this year will follow attempts to build the ark according to the ancient manual.

Does Finkel think the ark was real?

"I don't think the ark existed - but a lot of people do," he said. "It doesn't really matter. The Biblical version is a thing of itself and it has a vitality forever."

[Rocky_Shorz]

...I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?


...my throne is in Kurdistan...


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mapas/mapa_futureworld_small.jpg

noticed this last night on Gordon micheal Scallions future map of the world....

if you take a look at what today would be modern day kurdistan on the future map, it is left standing in generally the same shape as is presented today...with (what looks to me) like the majority of elam is still above water...

thunder, allow me to suggest listening to another Ralph Elis video. Elis is one of the world's leading scholars offering alternate Biblical interpretations, based on Archaeological Evidence discovered over the past 100+ years.

Elis will explain in this video (or better yet, get the book) how the New Testament story of Jesus was based on the life of a King from Edessa, Ancient Kurdistan, modern day Şanlıurfa, Turkey.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsNOAUMyKIo

Please take the time to listen to the Elis Videos that I've offered. Without foundational understanding, one cannot possibly have an intelligent debate.

add/edit:

Here's another Elios Video in the series on Jesus, King of Edessa. You might find more information contained within this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7aczBdyFw0

that location in Turkey is where the 12,500 year old Spiritual center is... remember U R far? Urfa

birthplace of Abraham, and now, King Jesus?

this is where the huge isis battle was fought recently 30 miles away in Kobane...

Kurds are the ancient protectors of the holy lands, now this is getting interesting,

Thanks again...

[Rocky_Shorz]

found it...


Alexander the Great,

Alexander himself had made known his wish to be buried at the well-known temple of the supreme Egyptian god Ammon Ra in the remote oasis of Siwa, in the Egyptian-Libyan desert. Alexander had made a crucial visit to this oracular shrine in 331, when he had taken Egypt from the Persians.
link (http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200103/alexander-the.great.mystery.htm)
http://kerdowney.com/uploads/image/Siwa_Oasis.jpg

With a population of 23,000, Siwa was, for a long time, the most inaccessible of all Egypt’s Oasis until very recently. It became an adventure travel destination once its notoriety began to rise. The region which lays some 60 feet below sea-level includes a rich history. Notably, Alexander the Great visited to consult the Oracle of Amun in 331 BC. Accomplished archaeologists, such as Liana Souvaltsis, have implied that the great general was buried here, but no factual evidence exists of this. Legends abound of mystical protections which cover the oasis... link (http://kerdowney.com/resources/blog/the-siwa-oasis-an-adventure-travel-destination-like-no-other/)


2340 BC: Sargon I of Kish builds a new capital, Agade (Akkad, later Babylon) and adopts the Semitic language Akkadian instead of Sumerian
2334 BC: Sargon defeats Lugalzagesi conquers Uruk, Ur, Lagash and Umma, thus uniting Akkadian and Sumerian peoples, thus becoming the first emperor in history
2330 BC: Sargon's daughter Enheduanna is a poetess
2320 BC: Sargon invades Lebanon and the Taurus Mountains and creates the Akkadian empire
2300 BC: the Amorites (Semitic people) migrate from Arabia to Syria
2278 BC: Sargon dies and is succeeded by his son Rimush, who sacks Elam
2254 BC: Akkadian king Naram Sin, another son of Sargon, further expands the empire, east and north
2217 BC: Naram Sin dies and is succeeded by his son Sharkalisharri
2200 BC: Royal graves of Alaca Hoyuk (Anatolia, 200 kms northeast of Ankara)
2180 BC: the Akkadian empire is destroyed by the Guti, who invade from the north, and the Elamites of Susa regain their independence
2150 BC: the Sumerians of Lagash revolt against the Guti
2125 BC: Gudea becomes king of Lagash and builds the monumental sanctuary of Eninnu
2116 BC: the Sumerians of Uruk revolt against the Guti
2112 BC: Ur-Nammu of Uruk recreates the Sumerian empire and rebuilds Ur, including the temple of Nanna and the three-terraced ziggurat
2100 BC: the Hurrians settle in the mountains between Mesopotamia and Anatolia and found the holy city of Urkish
2094 BC: Ur-Nammu dies and is succeeded by his son Shulgi/Dulgi, who expands the Sumerian empire to Susa and to the north, bordering the Amorites to the west, the Elamites to the east and the Hurrians (Indo-European people) to the north
2046 BC: Shulgi dies
2018 BC: the Sumerian empire disintegrates
2017 BC: the Sumerian governor of Mari, Ishbi Erra, establishes his own dynasty with capital at Isin
2007 BC: the Elamites of Susa capture Ur
2000 BC: the game of chess ("shatranj") develops in Persia
1932 BC: Gungunum becomes king of the Amorites with capital at Larsa, builds the E-Babbar temple and conquers Ur and Elam
1900 BC: the cities of Assur and Nineveh form an Assyrian kingdom
1900 BC: the Sukkalmah dynasty seizes power in Elam, turning it into a regional power
1900 BC: the Epic of Gilgamesh is redacted in the semitic language of Babylon
1900 BC: the Assyrians emerge from the holy city of Ashur (north Iraq) to establish colonies in Anatolia with headquarters in Nesa (Kanes, Kultepe)
1894 BC: Babylon is conquered by an Amorite dynasty
1834 BC: an Elamite, Warad Sin, becomes king of Larsa
1810 BC: Amorite dynasties seize power in the cities of Ugarit (Lebanon), Aleppo (Syria), Ashur and Mari
1809 BC: Shamshi-Adad conquers the cities of Mari, Ashur and Ekallutum, and thus creates the Assyrian empire
1800 BC: the Hittites invent irons and build the first weapons made of iron
1800 BC: the Babylonians employ a duodecimal system (a system based on 12 and 6) to measure time
1794 BC: Larsa (king Rim-Sin) conquers Isin
1792 BC: Hammurabi, sixth king of the Amorite dynasty, is crowned king of Babylon
1787 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-states of Uruk and Isin
1775 BC: Work begins on the Etemenanki, the ziggurath to god Marduk, in Babylon
1764 BC: Hammurabi defeats the Elamites
1763 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Larsa, and thus Ur, Uruk, Isin
1761 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Mari
1755 BC: Hammurabi creates the first code of laws using the Babylonian language
1750 BC: Hammurabi dies and the Babylonian empire dissolves into city-states
1725 BC: Kutir-Nahhunte I revolts against the Babylonians and Elam regains its independence
1725 BC: Pithana, king of Kussara, conquers Nesa
1700 BC: Babylonians invent the first windmills for the purpose of irrigation
1700 BC: Anitta of Kussara, Pithana's son, ruling from Kussara, conquers eastern Anatolia
1700 BC: the "Enuma Elish" (creation story of the Babylonians) originates
1680 BC: Labarna of Kussara reaches the Mediterranean Sea
1650 BC: Hattusili, son or nephew of Labarna, founds the Hittite kingdom, moves the capital from Kussara to Hattusa (150 kms east of Ankara) and adopts the language of Nesa
1640 BC: Hattusili fights the kingdom of Iamhad (with capital in Aleppo)
1600 BC: Hattusili's son Mursili becomes king of the Hittites
1595 BC: the Hittites under king Mursili I conquer the kingdom of Iamhad (Aleppo) and raid Babylon, thus ending the Amorite dynasty
1590 BC: the Hittite king, Mursili, is assassinated by Hantili, who becomes king
1590 BC: the Hittites install the Kassite dynasty (originating from the Central Asian steppes) in Babylon
1530 BC: the Kassites build a new capital, Durkurigalzu
1525 BC: Telipinu becomes king of the Hittites
1500 BC: a caravan trader, Abraham, leads nomads from Sumer to Canaan and then on to Egypt (Hebrews)
1480 BC: king Parattarna invades the lands of the Hurrians and creates the (Indo-European) Mitanni empire in northern Mesopotamia/Syria with capital in Wassuganni
1475 BC: the Mitanni king Parattarna conquers the kingdom of Aleppo and installs Idrimi as a vassal
1458 BC: the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis III defeats the Mitannis and conquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Saustatar conquers Assyria and reconquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Artatama and the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis IV sign a peace treaty
1365 BC: king Asuruballit restores independence to Assyria
1350 BC: the city of Ugarit (Syria) employs an alphabet of 32 letters
1344 BC: Suppiluliuma becomes king of the Hittites
1340 BC: King Untash-Napirisha of Elam founds a new capital at Chogha Zanbil
1339 BC: king Suppiluliuma of the Hittites conquers the Mitanni empire and establishes two viceregal kingdoms in Aleppo and Carchemish
1307 BC: Adadnirari I becomes king of Assyria and defeats and destroys the Mitanni empire
1275 BC: Khumbannumena expands the Elamite empire
1274 BC: the Egyptian king Rameses II is defeated by the Hittite king Muwatallis II at the city of Kadesh
1259 BC: peace treaty between Egyptians (Ramesses II) and Hittites (king Hattusili III)
1250 BC: the Hebrews return from Egypt and establish a kingdom in Palestine
1250 BC: the Assyrian army employs iron swords, lances, metal armors
1250 BC: the Assyrians divide the circle into 360 degrees
1250 BC: the Elamites build the ziggurat at Choga Zambil, the largest of all times
1237 BC: Hittite king Hattusili III dies and is succeeded by his son Tudhaliya IV, who builds a palace on the acropolis of the capital, Hattusa
1225 BC: the Assyrians under king Tukulti-Ninurta I capture Babylon
1208 BC: the Assyrian king, Tukulti-Ninurta I, is murdered by his son
1200 BC: the Philistines settle along the shores of Palestine
1200 BC: the Arameans migrate from Arabia to Syria (Harrans)
1200 BC: the Phoenicians move from the Arabian peninsula to the Mediterranean coast
1185 BC: the Hittite empire collapses under the invasion of the "Sea Peoples"
history timeline... (http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/neareast.html)

sea people as in Atlantis, or...?

[thunder24]

Observer, I listened to this n7aczBdyFw0

I find it very interesting... one thing I got out of it was josephus useing different name then jesus in his historical records... I always wondered about why josephus didn't mention jesus.. now I am beginning to get some knowledge on this...thankyou

Also if i heard correctly ... the historian josephus was actually saul... I think I heard that correctly in the link... Now if this is so...dang that explains alot... but either way, the interview I find helped connect dots for me, i will need to listen again.. thankyou....

[observer]

found it...


Alexander the Great,

Alexander himself had made known his wish to be buried at the well-known temple of the supreme Egyptian god Ammon Ra in the remote oasis of Siwa, in the Egyptian-Libyan desert. Alexander had made a crucial visit to this oracular shrine in 331, when he had taken Egypt from the Persians.
link (http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200103/alexander-the.great.mystery.htm)
http://kerdowney.com/uploads/image/Siwa_Oasis.jpg

With a population of 23,000, Siwa was, for a long time, the most inaccessible of all Egypt’s Oasis until very recently. It became an adventure travel destination once its notoriety began to rise. The region which lays some 60 feet below sea-level includes a rich history. Notably, Alexander the Great visited to consult the Oracle of Amun in 331 BC. Accomplished archaeologists, such as Liana Souvaltsis, have implied that the great general was buried here, but no factual evidence exists of this. Legends abound of mystical protections which cover the oasis... link (http://kerdowney.com/resources/blog/the-siwa-oasis-an-adventure-travel-destination-like-no-other/)


2340 BC: Sargon I of Kish builds a new capital, Agade (Akkad, later Babylon) and adopts the Semitic language Akkadian instead of Sumerian
2334 BC: Sargon defeats Lugalzagesi conquers Uruk, Ur, Lagash and Umma, thus uniting Akkadian and Sumerian peoples, thus becoming the first emperor in history
2330 BC: Sargon's daughter Enheduanna is a poetess
2320 BC: Sargon invades Lebanon and the Taurus Mountains and creates the Akkadian empire
2300 BC: the Amorites (Semitic people) migrate from Arabia to Syria
2278 BC: Sargon dies and is succeeded by his son Rimush, who sacks Elam
2254 BC: Akkadian king Naram Sin, another son of Sargon, further expands the empire, east and north
2217 BC: Naram Sin dies and is succeeded by his son Sharkalisharri
2200 BC: Royal graves of Alaca Hoyuk (Anatolia, 200 kms northeast of Ankara)
2180 BC: the Akkadian empire is destroyed by the Guti, who invade from the north, and the Elamites of Susa regain their independence
2150 BC: the Sumerians of Lagash revolt against the Guti
2125 BC: Gudea becomes king of Lagash and builds the monumental sanctuary of Eninnu
2116 BC: the Sumerians of Uruk revolt against the Guti
2112 BC: Ur-Nammu of Uruk recreates the Sumerian empire and rebuilds Ur, including the temple of Nanna and the three-terraced ziggurat
2100 BC: the Hurrians settle in the mountains between Mesopotamia and Anatolia and found the holy city of Urkish
2094 BC: Ur-Nammu dies and is succeeded by his son Shulgi/Dulgi, who expands the Sumerian empire to Susa and to the north, bordering the Amorites to the west, the Elamites to the east and the Hurrians (Indo-European people) to the north
2046 BC: Shulgi dies
2018 BC: the Sumerian empire disintegrates
2017 BC: the Sumerian governor of Mari, Ishbi Erra, establishes his own dynasty with capital at Isin
2007 BC: the Elamites of Susa capture Ur
2000 BC: the game of chess ("shatranj") develops in Persia
1932 BC: Gungunum becomes king of the Amorites with capital at Larsa, builds the E-Babbar temple and conquers Ur and Elam
1900 BC: the cities of Assur and Nineveh form an Assyrian kingdom
1900 BC: the Sukkalmah dynasty seizes power in Elam, turning it into a regional power
1900 BC: the Epic of Gilgamesh is redacted in the semitic language of Babylon
1900 BC: the Assyrians emerge from the holy city of Ashur (north Iraq) to establish colonies in Anatolia with headquarters in Nesa (Kanes, Kultepe)
1894 BC: Babylon is conquered by an Amorite dynasty
1834 BC: an Elamite, Warad Sin, becomes king of Larsa
1810 BC: Amorite dynasties seize power in the cities of Ugarit (Lebanon), Aleppo (Syria), Ashur and Mari
1809 BC: Shamshi-Adad conquers the cities of Mari, Ashur and Ekallutum, and thus creates the Assyrian empire
1800 BC: the Hittites invent irons and build the first weapons made of iron
1800 BC: the Babylonians employ a duodecimal system (a system based on 12 and 6) to measure time
1794 BC: Larsa (king Rim-Sin) conquers Isin
1792 BC: Hammurabi, sixth king of the Amorite dynasty, is crowned king of Babylon
1787 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-states of Uruk and Isin
1775 BC: Work begins on the Etemenanki, the ziggurath to god Marduk, in Babylon
1764 BC: Hammurabi defeats the Elamites
1763 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Larsa, and thus Ur, Uruk, Isin
1761 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Mari
1755 BC: Hammurabi creates the first code of laws using the Babylonian language
1750 BC: Hammurabi dies and the Babylonian empire dissolves into city-states
1725 BC: Kutir-Nahhunte I revolts against the Babylonians and Elam regains its independence
1725 BC: Pithana, king of Kussara, conquers Nesa
1700 BC: Babylonians invent the first windmills for the purpose of irrigation
1700 BC: Anitta of Kussara, Pithana's son, ruling from Kussara, conquers eastern Anatolia
1700 BC: the "Enuma Elish" (creation story of the Babylonians) originates
1680 BC: Labarna of Kussara reaches the Mediterranean Sea
1650 BC: Hattusili, son or nephew of Labarna, founds the Hittite kingdom, moves the capital from Kussara to Hattusa (150 kms east of Ankara) and adopts the language of Nesa
1640 BC: Hattusili fights the kingdom of Iamhad (with capital in Aleppo)
1600 BC: Hattusili's son Mursili becomes king of the Hittites
1595 BC: the Hittites under king Mursili I conquer the kingdom of Iamhad (Aleppo) and raid Babylon, thus ending the Amorite dynasty
1590 BC: the Hittite king, Mursili, is assassinated by Hantili, who becomes king
1590 BC: the Hittites install the Kassite dynasty (originating from the Central Asian steppes) in Babylon
1530 BC: the Kassites build a new capital, Durkurigalzu
1525 BC: Telipinu becomes king of the Hittites
1500 BC: a caravan trader, Abraham, leads nomads from Sumer to Canaan and then on to Egypt (Hebrews)
1480 BC: king Parattarna invades the lands of the Hurrians and creates the (Indo-European) Mitanni empire in northern Mesopotamia/Syria with capital in Wassuganni
1475 BC: the Mitanni king Parattarna conquers the kingdom of Aleppo and installs Idrimi as a vassal
1458 BC: the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis III defeats the Mitannis and conquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Saustatar conquers Assyria and reconquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Artatama and the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis IV sign a peace treaty
1365 BC: king Asuruballit restores independence to Assyria
1350 BC: the city of Ugarit (Syria) employs an alphabet of 32 letters
1344 BC: Suppiluliuma becomes king of the Hittites
1340 BC: King Untash-Napirisha of Elam founds a new capital at Chogha Zanbil
1339 BC: king Suppiluliuma of the Hittites conquers the Mitanni empire and establishes two viceregal kingdoms in Aleppo and Carchemish
1307 BC: Adadnirari I becomes king of Assyria and defeats and destroys the Mitanni empire
1275 BC: Khumbannumena expands the Elamite empire
1274 BC: the Egyptian king Rameses II is defeated by the Hittite king Muwatallis II at the city of Kadesh
1259 BC: peace treaty between Egyptians (Ramesses II) and Hittites (king Hattusili III)
1250 BC: the Hebrews return from Egypt and establish a kingdom in Palestine
1250 BC: the Assyrian army employs iron swords, lances, metal armors
1250 BC: the Assyrians divide the circle into 360 degrees
1250 BC: the Elamites build the ziggurat at Choga Zambil, the largest of all times
1237 BC: Hittite king Hattusili III dies and is succeeded by his son Tudhaliya IV, who builds a palace on the acropolis of the capital, Hattusa
1225 BC: the Assyrians under king Tukulti-Ninurta I capture Babylon
1208 BC: the Assyrian king, Tukulti-Ninurta I, is murdered by his son
1200 BC: the Philistines settle along the shores of Palestine
1200 BC: the Arameans migrate from Arabia to Syria (Harrans)
1200 BC: the Phoenicians move from the Arabian peninsula to the Mediterranean coast
1185 BC: the Hittite empire collapses under the invasion of the "Sea Peoples"
history timeline... (http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/neareast.html)

sea people as in Atlantis, or...?

Thank you Rocky, for this expanded documentation of the history in great antiquity.

If one studies the real history of the Middle East, as in Ralph Ellis' work for instance, one will quickly discover the power struggle was always between Bloodline Royal Families. It doesn't take much cognition to realize these are the same Bloodline Royal Families that control the Mass of Humanity from behind the smoke-and-mirrors of today's world.

It's all about the Bloodline....

[observer]

Observer, I listened to this n7aczBdyFw0

I find it very interesting... one thing I got out of it was josephus useing different name then jesus in his historical records... I always wondered about why josephus didn't mention jesus.. now I am beginning to get some knowledge on this...thankyou

Also if i heard correctly ... the historian josephus was actually saul... I think I heard that correctly in the link... Now if this is so...dang that explains alot... but either way, the interview I find helped connect dots for me, i will need to listen again.. thankyou....

You are correct in your assumption, thunder.

Josephus and Saul were one-in-the-same individual.

Ralph Ellis is not the only scholar who is exploring this possibility. The members might also want to listen to what Joseph Atwill is saying about the Josephus/Saul conundrum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcro8yvAfwM&index=6&list=PL3804C3592B453048

[Rocky_Shorz]

after the ice age, most humans in the southern climates, never prepared for cold didn't survive, yet, the Celts who survived brutal winters yearly survived being close to the water where temperatures were buffered from ocean heat, even in extreme cold.

what followed was a spread all across the European/Asian/India continent civilization was wiped back to the stone ages. It was 12,500 years ago when the Spiritual Center in Ur was built that they started evolving past the hunter gatherers. Massive farming operations were started in Syria, and ET we know as Sasquatch appeared to help man learn modern farming techniques.


looking around Istanbul I ran across an interesting rock carving I hadn't seen before...


Relief of King Sargon II riding in his chariot
The walls of the palaces of Neo-Assyrian kings were lined with carved slabs of gypsum showing the king and his court. This example from the private chambers of the palace at Khorsabad (710-705 B.C.) shows the king, riding through a forest in his chariot link (http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/05/050112.oi-objects.shtml)

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/05/050112.oi-1.jpg

take a look at the image above the king...

Landing/docking stations for ET crafts, did they teach man mass food production, then leave with their cargoes full?

look at the far left is it a man in a vehicle waiting to get loaded?

see the notches in all of those spirals? catches for spaceships?

on the top right you see one flying, but is that a guard in a space suit in front of a building?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=23187&d=1423607106&thumb=1

can everyone see the attachment?

now for all of you Bigfoot/Sasquatch fans...

now the horned horses drew my attention to this furry guy watching the King ride by in the chariot, was bigfoot brought here as slaves for this mission to teach man mass producing food? and left behind? and yes, that does look like a crown on his head...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=23188&d=1423607106&thumb=1

This is when I believe those who were whisked away started returning in the ET "arks, races who were brought to many different planets to survive, were dropped off to start rebuilding earths populations again.

the great floods hit, which didn't kill everyone off like the ice age did, this time a real ship sailed the seas and landed in Mesopotamia, modern day Turkish Kurdistan


now I had never considered Jesus to be a King in this era, at this same location all of this history had happened...

is this why isis is trying to destroy all the artifacts from this region before UN-explainable truths are revealed?

what if Jesus became the leader on a planet the ET's hauled everyone to...

what if his excile brought him to another world and ET taught him gifts and knowledge to pass on to the other humans?

what if that stone carving wasn't Sargon, it was King Jesus riding in the chariot after his return...

maybe, that wasn't a carving of when he returned, but when he was leaving, did he return 700 years after this carving and have the abilities of a God from what he had learned?

so many questions...

[Rocky_Shorz]

well let's look at it from another angle,

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, it is recorded he joined the Essenes in his young teens. They appeared from no where and disappeared without a trace.

They are described the same as Nordics, ET Space and Time travelers who recently came through a worm hole over Texas.

What if they traveled back in time with him to 700BC at a time when man needed to get modernized to keep the growing population from starving, the ones who saw him leave, considered him in exile...

He returned at age 27, dropped off in Jerusalem and with his knowledge became the King of Kings, teaching non violence, healing, walking on water, esoteric knowledge taught him by the Nordics... in those times, he was a God with all of his gifts and when he spoke, his words rang true and everyone who heard them, became a follower...

his knowledge shared with the 12 tribes in Kurdistan became the religion of peace we all know now...

your videos are trying to explain it without the mention of ET, but from what my spirit is sharing, this is a path to be looked into much closer...

[take]

Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.






.......

[Rocky_Shorz]

I just had a helicopter do a low level flyover, it was white with a glass dome under it like a glass bottom boat, I waved at the Pope...

so let's put this in modern terms, my theory is Jesus was like Marty from back to the future, Doc was the Essenes

while back on Sargon's era, Doc popped in and said Marty we have a crisis for your kids...

though he lived to 37, 70 years after his birth, he led a revolt against the Roman Empire...

are all of you understanding yet...

Jesus was with the Essenes from young teens, to 27 years old...

in my mind I can see exactly how everything shared in these Egyptian history (relating to the bible) video is possible once you add in the Essenes and time travel. King Jesus went forward and back in time to meet who needed the knowledge when it was needed.

from my experience, religions are right about the singular God, His wife standing beside him, and his son were all there in one dream. All three looked human but God was a Giant, I am 6'4 and only came to his knee. His wife the Holy Spirit handles communications for all of us, his son runs the retirement center, some stay in Nirvana to reincarnate back for another go of it, but others are tired and check in to heaven not planning on returning again.

now I have a Blue Dude as my protector, which an incredibly smart friend says is Jesus

as far as I know, in all of history, no one has ever met the trinity, no one has ever delivered their messages to man

I know who I am, whether anyone believes really doesn't matter, but what I am sharing is real.

I delivered God's messages on my birthday as I was asked, he showed me he was God by making the lottery number which was the same as the Key of David solving the riddle of the beast come up the next day on the lottery. My message was to look in the bible at Revelation, the letter written to the Church of Sardis was a Type-o, it was for the Church of Saudis... written for Muslims hundreds of years before the Muslim religion began... I wanted to know it wasn't just a dream, 3 days to the minute after delivering the message. Bam Iran was slammed by a quake killing 38,000... Merry Christmas...

I know ETs, they are good, but don't change timelines like I have done many times without knowing how, unacceptable events were erased and replayed with a better outcome...

I'm not a God, just a dude stumbling through life like all of you, but I am starting to believe, my Spirit might be someone pretty powerful reincarnated back here at this time...

Onyx shared with all of us about a God Gene that can be turned on, maybe when my daughter's best friend was raped and murdered by a sick Jewish monster, it turned on for me.

every life matters, when I get mad, I hate seeing an earthquake hit like it did in Chile, killing 5 people.

sure all of them get swept to heaven, but it doesn't help my feeling of guilt I am somehow the reason.

a 6.6 earthquake hit Mexico, I know that was an attack by those who want to step forward and claim they are God's messenger and are pretending to be king of the world, but God has already chosen me. nothing they can do will stand up to the power of the the big Dude I have met, or the one who is watching over me.

I don't care who their bloodline is, or how much gold they have packed in their safe. They are trying to force prophecy, even if it takes using toys they re-engineered from ET technology.

I am who I am, forgive me...

[Selkie]

Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.






.......

Sword taken to that Gordian knot. Thank you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was given a special pen on 9/11 it is a cross, when I hold it long point down, it is a pen, when I grab the short end at the top, it becomes the sword of light. It was twinkling in the grass, I didn't feel like driving after seeing America attacked, so I walked that day. I bent to pick it up and it disappeared, I couldn't find it. It wasn't until a dream it appeared around my neck...

that was the day I wrote my first poem, it just flowed out with no rewrites...

The pen I was given was a gift from the lord, more strength than mass armies, mightier than a sword...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.

.......

Map and Story of Canaan

"The Conquests of Canaan

Joshua and the Israelites crossed over the Jordan River just south and east of the city of Schechem. Many battles and "conquests" followed their entry into Canaan (also referred to as "The Promised Land", "Israel" or "Palestine), but the first major battle that transpired took place due south of their entry, and is known as the Battle of Jericho. With God's intervention, Joshua spearheaded the destruction of Jericho before moving west to the small city of Ai, which would eventually fall as well. Other conquests at the hands of Joshua and the Israelites took place against the Amorite kings from Jerusalem, as well as other cities such as Lachish, Hebron, Jarmuth, Eglon. Joshua 10 tells of a battle at Gibeon where God answered Joshua's request for assistance to extend the hours of daylight so that the battle could be finished. God also unleashed enormous hail stones from the heavens, an action that killed many Canaanites. Soon thereafter, much of the land of Canaan was secured under Joshua's command..."

http://www.christians-standing-with-israel.org/canaan-joshua-israelites-israel-maps.jpeg

[observer]

One can call them "Israelites", if one wishes to perpetuate the FRAUD.

The fact is, they were the ejected Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt. There never were Hebrew Slaves in the land of Egypt. That's all part of the "cover story" designed to usurp the land of Canaan, and genocide the inhabitants.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgodwiVtAHo

One can regurgitate this distorted history regarding this Biblical Claim, but the archeology simply doesn't support the story....

[take]

Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.

.......

Map and Story of Canaan

"The Conquests of Canaan

Joshua and the Israelites crossed over the Jordan River just south and east of the city of Schechem. Many battles and "conquests" followed their entry into Canaan (also referred to as "The Promised Land", "Israel" or "Palestine), but the first major battle that transpired took place due south of their entry, and is known as the Battle of Jericho. With God's intervention, Joshua spearheaded the destruction of Jericho before moving west to the small city of Ai, which would eventually fall as well. Other conquests at the hands of Joshua and the Israelites took place against the Amorite kings from Jerusalem, as well as other cities such as Lachish, Hebron, Jarmuth, Eglon. Joshua 10 tells of a battle at Gibeon where God answered Joshua's request for assistance to extend the hours of daylight so that the battle could be finished. God also unleashed enormous hail stones from the heavens, an action that killed many Canaanites. Soon thereafter, much of the land of Canaan was secured under Joshua's command..."


I'm well aware of this topic and I don't even feel it's worth discussing.

No offense.

[Rocky_Shorz]

remember, I didn't chose the title or start this thread, but observer has brought important info forward I am interested in digging into, so take a hike and let us continue.

well a more important story to me is Christianity used the Jewish Religion for the old testament, now we learn that isn't the Jewish religion, it is Egypt's. We already knew by DNA Israeli's DNA are Identical to the Semites. Jewish is a religion, not a race.

so now to dig into those texts to find out the story preceding what is in the bible as the old testament.

it really doesn't change anything to me, from the other side of the world, Egypt and Israel are the same lands.

The Persian Empire stretched across this area, and from Persia comes the history of the Sumerians, which were the star travelers.

the original metal scrolls had info predating Egypt, time to do some digging to see how much more they have to offer us.

after dropping Thermo Nukes on Palestinians, as far as I'm concerned Israel will never exist...

they have stolen these lands from the rightful owners to take for themselves by lies, which has affected the whole world including my Nation. This is no secret to any of us in the alternate media.

Ralph just makes it official by explaining why.

Why were the pyramids lined up exactly with Orion's belt, who traveled from that area that taught us what they have,

will they return?

who in Egyptian history, wrote the Prophesy of Elam?

It is important to me, because I am living it...

[observer]

The northern most extent of the Egyptian Empire was at the ancient site of Carchemish (also Karkemish). The ancient ruins of this capital city was at a point where the Euphrates River crosses-over from modern-day Turkey into Syria, thereby making all of modern Syria a part of the Egyptian Empire in great antiquity.

Around 2000 BC the Hyksos invaded the fertile Nile Delta and established 400 years of rule of Lower Egypt as the Hyksos Pharaohs. These Hyksos came from the area of Canaan and Syria, i.e. the ancestors of the modern day Semites that continue to populate the area. At the point in time when these Hyksos moved into the Nile Delta, the land they came from was already a part of the Egyptian Empire.

When the Hyksos Pharaohs were evicted from Lower Egypt, around 1600 BC, it would only be natural to expect them to return to the land where they once had come.

Modern archeologists have confirmed that in the time period we are focusing upon (1600 to 1400 BC), Jerusalem was nothing more than a tiny village, and that the Semite tribes of the area were mostly involved in piling-up rocks.

The story of Hebrew Slaves in Egypt was a construct designed to give these exiled Hyksos Pharaohs a license to genocide the Semite Tribes of Canaan.

This license continues, to this day, to drive the turmoil in this region of the world.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Yesterday I was talking with someone about the 33 bloodlines, about how Turkey is attacking Kurdistan and how #isis was created for the purpose of stealing ancient artifacts to make the history of Kurdistan and the beginning of Jewish religion disappear.

We spoke of 9/11 and everyone involved from Cheney, Bush, Israel and Saudi Arabia were behind these attacks to bring the middle east to the point it is now.

I said I was very disappointed in Islam and the Leaders of Mecca for causing all of these problems, their King knows I was depending on them to bring the main religions together...

Today a friend here on Avalon sent me a link to the interviews Kerry did with a Kurd...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm65i1eQpCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycEx1BNAB7Y

Everything I had spoke of...

now I just ran across the story, of Mecca getting hit by lightning...

without anything here in black and white, we will never know if 1 hour before this strike was when I was speaking of being disappointed with Islam...

http://whatdoesitmean.com/drn2.jpg

When I demanded the Catholic Church make changes, the Pope resigned immediately after, and the Vatican was hit an hour later...

http://www.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Vatican-Struck-By-Lightning-3-930x620.jpeg

ET's are surrounding us, we are approaching a critical moment, the reason we are all gathered... We have been waiting a few thousand years, how many billions of years have they been waiting?

I was going to bring the 33 bloodline thread back to the surface to continue where it was left for years, time to revisit so much we have discussed before... but it is closed, so I am stepping in here...

this happened on the 14th anniversary of 9/11 7+7 107 Killed, another 7, just a coincidence?

The Catholic Church has been struck, Mecca has been struck, God demands the world religions comes together...

so many faithful with signs they have all been watching for, walking blind...

what will it take to wake up this world, two of the top religions have been struck, at their most holiest of spots...

all that remains is Israel...

3 religions, one God and all these wars because each think theirs is best.

It's time for change.

“His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles.” Psalm 97:4

yesterday, on the 14th anniversary of 9/11, this photo was taken over the twin towers location.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/drn1.jpg

World leaders are meeting this month

the Will of God is Peace

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/drn4.jpg

Tomb of the Virgin Mary in Murree Pakistan



I said I was taking off on a cruise ship last week, forecast was clear no rain expected when I mentioned it... Suddenly a huge storm appeared due to slam Avalon when I was in port... dang coincidences...

""Sheikh Rashid: Son of Dubai's ruler dies of a heart attack aged 33..." link (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sheikh-rashid-son-dubais-ruler-dies-heart-attack-aged-33-1520358)

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1459691/sheikh-rashid-bin-mohammed-bin-rashid-al-maktoum.jpg

eldest son of a modern day Pharaoh...

from Ben's report

"align with Russia in Syria against ISIS and their Israeli and Gulf Cooperation Council backers, the sources said.

To make sure their message was being heard, the 33-year old Sheik Rashid of Dubai, one of the top ISIS supporters, was killed by heart attack, according to US intelligence sources."

before his 3 days of mourning was over, the storm started dissipating over Ensenada, the following day it dissolved completely, not one drop hit the ship...

" Saudi Arabia's safety record for religious pilgrimages was under scrutiny on Thursday after 717 people died in the worst disaster to strike the annual hajj pilgrimage in Mecca in 25 years.

At least 863 others were injured in the crush at Mina, a few miles east of Mecca, caused by two large groups of pilgrims arriving together at a crossroads on their way to performing the "stoning the devil" ritual at Jamarat, Saudi civil defence said... link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11887302/Eid-al-Adha-At-least-100-killed-and-hundreds-injured-in-crush-during-hajj-outside-Mecca.html)

now those of you following along watched this all unfold...

the 4th blood moon is coming in 4 days...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I shared this almost a year ago...

The King of Dubai and his son went against the promise of Muhammad...

31308

those who know God, fear him for a reason...

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/cover/public/2015/03/26/20150327cover600x800rev.jpg

"Before jihadists overran this mountain town in 2013, Maaloula was one of the oldest Christian communities in Syria, where Western Aramaic—the language of Jesus Christ—is still spoken. It was also a place of profound peace, where Sunni and Shiite Muslim residents, along with their Christian neighbors, forged a pact early in the war to avoid the sectarian conflict ripping their country apart. “We decided that even if the mountains around us were exploding with fighting, we would not go to war,” Mahmoud Diab, a Sunni imam, told Newsweek in 2012. “It’s a sectarian war, but the fact is, there is no war here in Maaloula. In this town, we are not defined by religion. We all know each other. Everyone is a Christian, and everyone is Muslim.”..." link (http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/new-exodus-christians-flee-isis-middle-east-316785.html)

" ISIS’s Mission: Burn Their Churches And Kill Their Pastors
The place where God first made man is the place where evil men are attempting to use the name of God to destroy mankind..." link (http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/20/isiss-mission-burn-their-churches-and-kill-their-pastors/)

To date, more than 170,000 people (mostly Christians) were killed in Iraq by ISIS. Why is nobody talking about this genocide? link (https://www.quora.com/To-date-more-than-170-000-people-mostly-Christians-and-Shiites-were-killed-in-Iraq-by-ISIS-Why-is-nobody-talking-about-this-genocide)

The fist of God is ready to drop, I begged him to only strike the leaders who created these atrocities...

maybe he listened when he grabbed the son of Dubai's King and took the life from him...

I am only the messenger, will he take the first born of all those involved?

"Egypt's leader says country in 'ferocious war'"

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Egypt's President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi said in an interview that the Mideast region needs to cooperate to defeat a worsening terrorist threat that has led to a "ferocious war" in Egypt and created the danger of some countries "sliding into failure."

In a wide-ranging interview with The Associated Press Saturday night, el-Sissi also said that Syria should not be divided after its civil war, that the Egyptian military needs to be "augmented" to defeat terrorists fighting in the Sinai and Western Desert, and that efforts should be renewed to solve the Palestinian issue and expand Egypt's nearly 40-year-peace with Israel to include more Arab countries.

Resolving the Palestinian question, he said, could "change the face of the region and ... bring about enormous improvement to the situation. ... I'm optimistic by nature and I say that there is a great opportunity."

The 60-year-old former military chief, who ran for president and assumed office in 2014 after the army ousted his predecessor Mohammed Morsi the year before, spoke with AP at a New York hotel on Saturday night after he addressed a U.N. summit that adopted new development goals for the next 15 years. He will also attend the annual ministerial meeting of the General Assembly at U.N. headquarters that begins Monday.

Speaking just days after pardoning and releasing two jailed Al-Jazeera English journalists in Cairo, el-Sissi said he is open to clemency to other journalists who have been tried and convicted in absentia. But he said he would only act within his powers as president and would also respect the prerogatives of Egypt's judiciary.

"Rest assured that we are always keen on sorting out issues and problems, especially those that relate to journalists and to the media personnel," he added.

El-Sissi, speaking through a translator, said that regional security is in "its most vulnerable state."

"Let it suffice to look at the map and find countries that are suffering from failure. There is an increase in the extremist groups. There is the problem of the refugees that are flowing into Europe. With all that in mind, we can sense how difficult and how complicated" the challenge is, he said.

"I don't want to say we are late in doing what we should have done, but (defeating the threat will require) a lot of effort, and not only a lot of effort but as a matter of fact it entails a good amount of understanding and cooperation from every country ... to restore the countries that are now sliding into this vicious cycle of failure."

In that vein, the Egyptian leader cited what he called an "improving" relationship with the United States. Ties are "strategic and stable," he said.

It has been a tumultuous period in Egypt. Longtime leader Hosni Mubarak was ousted in 2011 in the Arab Spring revolt that eventually led to the installation of the Muslim Brotherhood's Morsi as Egypt's first popularly elected president; he then was tuned out by the military amid another popular uprising.

"The last two years were a real test of the endurance and strength" of the ties with the U.S., el-Sissi said.

Since then, Egypt has been fighting an insurgency by militants based in the Sinai who have pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group, and militants have carried out bombings and shootings against policemen and troops in Cairo and other cities.

Security forces have cracked down hard on Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists. Hundreds of Islamists have been killed and thousands arrested, and Morsi and other Brotherhood leaders have had death sentences issued against them in multiple trials. The trials and the crackdown have brought heavy criticism from human rights groups. El-Sissi's government contends the Brotherhood is complicit in violence, a claim the group denies, saying authorities want to crush them as a political opposition.

Asserted el-Sissi: "The problem with the Muslim Brotherhood is not a problem between the government of Egypt and these people. The real problem is between the Egyptian people and the Muslim Brotherhood." He said the Brotherhood has given "a very bad impression" and Egyptians "are not able to forgive and forget."

The Egyptian military, he said, "has always been a factor for stability" and should be strengthened because it faces "a ferocious war against terrorism and extremism ... Increasing the military capability of the Egyptian military means that it can strike a strategic balance" for the region.

Referring to the civil war that has shattered Syria, the president said "we are very keen that Syria remains as a nation and as a state and does not divide into smaller states."

He warned that the collapse of Syria would mean that all its weapons and equipment would fall into the hands "of the terrorists." If that happens, he said, the danger will not only hurt Syria but spill over to its neighbors and "will pose a serious threat to the rest of the region, and this is what we fear."

Asked how extremists could be neutralized, he offered no immediate solution: "This is exactly the dilemma we are talking about."" link (http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/89ae8247abe8493fae24405546e9a1aa/Article_2015-09-27-UN--United%20Nations-Summit-Egypt-Interview/id-59e084b6f36041f7b448c25ab00292f1?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)

[Rocky_Shorz]

and King, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, don't for a moment think your assassins can touch me, or all of your heirs will pass like your first born son. You must take this as a lesson from God and reverse all your actions...

"The Al Maktoum family descends from the Al Bu Falasah section of the Bani Yas, a highly respected and authoritative tribal federation that was the dominant power throughout most of what is now the UAE.

The Al Maktoum family's reign as rulers of Dubai began in 1833, like most settlements in the region at that time was just a small town, but the arrival of the Al Maktoum family changed that. Dubai is now one of the most vibrant cities in the world, attracting tourists and business executives from many countries." link (http://www.sheikhmohammed.com/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=17f504ee11a11310VgnVCM1000004d64a8c0RCRD)

I am the King of the Heart of the middle east through divine destiny, chosen by God to bring peace to the world. You have the choice right now, of following the will of God, or listening to the worm tongues who are promising peace through destruction. You created ISIS, they are attacking Christians and Kurds, the protectors of the holy lands, think for a moment the evil you are bowing to. Money means nothing, Bills saying in God we Trust show the only God you bow to. I am ashamed by your choice in what truly matters in this world. I have no more to say, may God be kind in your judgement.

http://www.sheikhmohammed.com/StaticFiles/Content%20for%20English%20site/Static%20Files/Biography/Photos/THE%20UAE%20VICE%20PRESIDENT,%20PRIME%20MINISTER%20AND%20RULER%20OF%20DUBAI/brulers.jpg

[observer]

Rocky, my friend,

I've been slowly going-over the material you are presenting, and I'm not certain what you are promoting.

From my understanding, the God of the Old Testament, the same God that the Muslims, Jews, and Christians venerate - each by a different name - yet all the same God of Abraham, IS NOT the Creator God of the Multiverse, but rather, an interloper god who has usurped this domain for its own nefarious designs, i.e. "The One Who Fell". This place where we dwell, is a place among "The Fallen".

Any attempt to align one's theology with any manifestation of this Fallen God, is simply a reenactment of a script that was designed to continue the dichotomy of this particular reality.

I can appreciate the history you are focusing upon, but I simply can't resonate with the hypothesis.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Happy Rosh Hashanah, year 5775...

The Jewish New Year where God opens the book of Life on the day of Judgement and decides who lives and who should die...

10 days to repent, Yom Kippur is the day we all look around to see who made it...

Tonight is the final blood moon of the Tetrad, I can understand why so many felt an earthshaking moment is possible at this time...

If Ben is right, the lunatics have had their arms tied preventing them from creating a false flag event to fulfil a Jewish prophecy...

I am not seeing 111 or 1111 which I normally do before a major event...

So the first born son of a Dubai King paid the price for ignorance, let's hope nothing changes over the 10 days to come...

Putin met with Trump, and now Obama...

WW III is not going to be...

[ThePythonicCow]

The most recent 34 posts above, presently with the Subject of "Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?", were once a separate thread under that same title. They began life on yet another thread 14th Anniversary 9/11 questions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85175-14th-Anniversary-9-11-questions), before being split off as a separate thread, then merged into here.

Wandering in the forums of Avalon for 12 days and 12 nights, so far :).

[Lifebringer]

Well, for one, I'd like the geometric shape of buildings to change, where velosity of a tornano is unable to tear apart the shelter. This can be done by adding the recycled plastic waste to coal ash cement mixtures hardened like the playground equipment, which I find very durable for insulation and inside temperature management. Somew of our emergency structure shelters partially below ground, all 1st floor flooring re-inforced and the dome shape submerged and waterproofed, by having molded one piece pre-fabs set 1st below ground, and interlocking dome top. Windows cut out for easy waterproof thick pressure glass/plexi-glass seal when pulled closed and latched. Smaller windows hold better pressure and distribute mild lighting to keep homes cool. I believe our ancestors went into caves or below ground to survive bad or destructive weather condition, and if there are to be surviving remnant, The people must put forth these building/shelters/home protections. Inside green lighting for green houses and bee hives brought inside for pollination. Screening can keep bees separate from people/family members.

After all we will need lots of hands to rebuild as we learn to get along and prove our worth to be included in eternal planning henceforth. If you look at out track record/history, we've pretty much screwed stuff up being too cowardly to stand up for the good. Will the good testify on our behalf, if we needed a witness in this weighing?:blackwidow::heart::blushing::shielddeflect:

[Lifebringer]

I was seeing the 11*11 sequence and felt something divine was afoot. Good.

[thunder24]

so my girl had a dream last night with a time travleing shape shifter in it... she was researching on the net and found this link http://www.messagetoeagle.com/hizir.php#.Vg7jtPlVikq

which mentions that jesus was thought to be a shape shifter and could be the same person as Hızır...


Here comes the most interesting part. MessageToEagle's readers will probably recall the article Did Ancient Civilizations Possess Knowledge Of Time Travel? In which we discussed certain ancient time travel stories.

Hızır who is a legendary personality in Muslim culture possessed the ability to shift between time and places. He is believed to time-travel to the present to take precautions to prevent an event in the future and claims license to make minor adjustments. The Koran reveals that Allah imbued Hızır with wisdom and the capacity for knowing the past and the future. This shows that Hızır travels through time.

In some books it is said that Allah taught him His own wisdom and blessed him with the gift of shifting between seasons, time and places.

There are also indications that Hızır was a shape-shifter. He is sometimes portrayed as an old man, a young boy or a child. He could travel vast distances in the blink of an eye and appeared at the exact time help is needed and immediately disappeared when he completed his work. Gifted with many virtues, he could walk on air and in space. He could also walk on water without sinking and he knew the secrets of alchemy.



Read more: http://www.messagetoeagle.com/hizir.php#ixzz3nS04jZ2N


According to a newly decoded Egyptian text, which dated back nearly 1,210 years and was translated from the original Coptic by Roelof van den Broek, emeritus professor of the History of Christianity at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, ancient people believed that Jesus could change hi shape as will. There are many similarities between Hızır and Jesus.

Read more: http://www.messagetoeagle.com/hizir.php#ixzz3nS0M1b4k

sooo was jesus a time traveling shape shifter.....??? dunh duh dunh

[observer]

[....snip]

sooo was jesus a time traveling shape shifter.....??? dunh duh dunh

There are many who subscribe to the theory that Jesus was an Avatar who incarnated, over millennia, into many of the great entities of history; that this eternal soul would come, from time-to-time, to help enlighten humanity. It could be possible this Hızır Entity is just another such incarnations of the Jesus Avatar. Who am I to say? I don't subscribe much to these subjective kinds of theories, although I'm not denying there is every possibility of this being such.

I pay much more attention to people like Ralph Elis, and Joseph Atwell (both referenced in earlier comments in this thread) because these individuals are scholars working with existing literature, in many cases original unaltered text.

[Rocky_Shorz]

interesting story from VT...

Armageddon is not turning out quite as Gog and Magog planned it

The only problem is that the “end times” is not a Jewish story, it is a Christian story predicted in Revelation...

For the last couple of years the media has been full of stories about the “end times” scenario and trying to put it into a Zionist framework with the restoration and the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. This program has included the destruction of both the Christian and the Muslims quarters and their places of worship in both the old and the new city.

The only problem is that the “end times” is not a Jewish story, it is a Christian story predicted in Revelation. It is also a Shiite Islamic story where the Mahdi will join with Jesus during the second coming and defeat the anti-Christ.

Central to Revelation are the seven churches of Asia situated in what once was Greece until over 500 years ago. Istanbul in what is now known as Turkey, ancient Constantinople, was the epicenter of Christianity at the famous church the Hagia Sophia for 1,500 years until the Turkish invasion and colonization of Greece and many parts of Eastern Europe.

The Turks in turn come from Anatolia and are a people referred to as Gog and Magog in Revelation. The savage hordes from the east. Also known as Khazars. Regarded by all those around them as a barbaric and violent people led by their king known as the Kagan. The name Kagan still lives on today.

They were despised because their major form of trade was to abduct women and children from other nations and then enslave them, both for their own benefit and to sell on markets.

Central to the ISIS invasion of Syria and Iraq has been the abduction of women and children who have been sold into slavery and prostitution. The human rights abuses committed by these people is beyond belief. As Tony Abbot from Australia was heard to comment, this is worse than Hitler.

They also used to lie in wait for travelers along the old Silk Road going from Asia to the Middle East, kill these people and then adopt their identities. A habit which they have maintained throughout the centuries appearing to be someone who they are not. They adopted other religions and infiltrated the top ranks of power and influence in other nations.

In Syria, the so-called “Free Syrian Army” has proved itself to consist of masked men who are not who they claim to be. Most, if not all, are not even Syrians but a proxy army. Mossad, CIA, and M16 agents have been found in their ranks along with many nationalities from all over the Middle East. They have proved to be an inauthentic opposition to the Syrian government.

Khazars fleeing the armies of Russia into Western Europe infiltrated the Church of Rome. From the 11th century onwards the Latin Crusades sacked Constantinople and raped the Hagia Sophia. From the 11th century onwards arose the Great Schism between the Eastern and Western Churches. Rome then embarked on the Inquisition burning millions at the stake and declared itself the owner of the planet, all bodies on the planet and all souls.

Many of the Khazars converted to Talmudic Judaism and it is from the Ashkenazi Jews that we get the Bolsheviks who from 1917 persecuted the Orthodox Christian Church in Russia. Estimates are that 100 million in total were killed in this genocide.

The Turks converted to Islam and in 1915 carried out the Armenian Orthodox Christian genocide, brutally raping women and then nailing them to a cross.

The House of Saud is a perfect contemporary example of Gog and Magog infiltration of the Middle East. The House of Saud was founded by a Khazar who had converted to Judaism, then moved to Saudi Arabia, married a Muslim woman, and converted to Islam.

The kingdom of Saudi Arabia today, which is violent and suppressive and where the Saudi Royal family is known for their corrupt behaviour and brutal dictatorship, is typical of a Khazar style rulership. It is not surprising that in punishing dissenters to this regime, they not only chop their heads off, but crucify them.

Gog and Magog, from Anatolia, Khazars and Turks have infiltrated Judaism, Christianity and Islam and today we see the fruits of their labour. An unholy alliance between Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel where Syria and Iran who have had peaceful and tolerant relations between Jews, Christians and Muslims is baring the brunt of their united proxy armies known as al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS etc. Their main targets are Torah Jews who do not support a Zionist State:

https://theinternationalreporter.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/armenian_genocide_image007.jpg?w=300&h=198


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2mdPbYnZI

Orthodox Christianity which does not support the authority of the Pope but is an Apostolic church, and Shiite Islam, the protectors of the Mahadi, a direct descendant of Mohammed (PBUH.) These are the descendants of the twelve tribes of Israel, led by the Messiah Yeshua. Joshua ben Joseph. Blessed as the firstborn of Israel.

Revelation is the story of the destruction and persecution of the Christian Church, which we have seen in Russia, Turkey and now Syria with their brutal killing of Orthodox Christians;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcvY77knTXQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cetYo4SFJYI

CIA groups like Blackwater who are Knights of Malta swearing allegiance to the Pope;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJiG0XsAWg

and in Saudi Arabia where Christians are not tolerated. If anything they are made a mockery out of through crucifixion being used as a legal death sentence in the country.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3gn6LfwHIg

As of this writing, 1st October 2015, Orthodox Christian Russia has now joined the battle in Syria and is bombing ISIS strongholds, the rebel groups who have been supported by the USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey through a proxy war in order to remove Assad, bomb Iran and turn the whole of the Middle East into a Wahhabi Caliphate and Greater Israel. The duel Kingdoms of Gog and Magog.

Armageddon means the high place or high hill. On the Golan Heights we find these rebels groups, funded by Gog and Magog. In other words, Gog and Magog have been gathered into one place from the corners of the earth. They are the Zionist Talmud Jews who worship Babylon, the extremist Wahhabi jihadists in their many disguises and the Jesuit Soldiers of Christ being the CIA and the Knights of Malta. These are the anti-Christ. As F. William Engdahl states:

Pope Francis, the first Jesuit Pope in history, made a bizarre addition to his prepared text. Praising recent US steps to reconcile with Cuba after more than five decades of US sanctions, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, whose papal name according to the official website of the Society of Jesus, was not taken for Francis of Assisi but rather for the co-founder of the Jesuits, Francis Xavier, remarked that the US and Cuba could be an example to the world, “a world that needs reconciliation amidst this Third World War.” Excuse me, your Holiness? It’s a matter of record that the Jesuits were founded as a military order and were called “Soldiers of God,” but what is this about? Do you know something we don’t?

According to my colleague Pepe Escobar of Russia’s Sputnik International and Asia Times, “Third World War” was never part of the original redaction of the Pope’s speech. Francis personally added it on his flight from Rome to Havana.

Was that meant to signal that, led by the militant banner of history’s first Jesuit Pope, the Vatican is bringing us into a World War III against Russia and her allies, most certainly also China? Very few statesmen or political leaders that I know of are calling this World War III today. Is the comment intended to signal that the thousand-year quest of the Roman church to eradicate Orthodox Christianity, for which Russia today is the bastion, along with Greece, Serbia and eastern Ukraine and elsewhere, is seen as the ultimate prize? Let’s devoutly hope not, and hope that the inserted phrase owed to fatigue or jet lag on the long flight from Rome to Havana.

As the story goes, they are defeated and we have the second coming, where the great Judge will Judge the nations. What is this great Judge? It is Righteousness.

If you listen to everything Putin has had to say in the last couple of years, he has put a stress on international law and co-operation. Everything he has done both nationally and internationally is backed up by the law and has never been outside of it. He is faultless in this regard. He has also stressed that those who have acted outside of international law causing wars, human rights abuses and devastation and destruction should be brought to book in a Nuremberg type trials scenario. In his speech at the UN he asked the question:

Do you realize what you have done?

The New Jerusalem coming down will be when the nations of the world, who are symbolized by the “Bride”are restored to Righteousness and the “Lord,” the Law. This is the Holy Wedding at the end of Revelation. Or as Jeremiah so aptly put it in 31:33

“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

In conjunction with this we will see the Hagia Sophia re-opened as the center of Orthodox Christianity and the first service in over 500 years will take place along with the Seven Churches reclaiming their birthright.

In a multi polar diverse world, there is peace and tolerance for all religious beliefs. God does not belong to any religion, instead it shines through all facets as though they are all different rooms in a crystal palace.

Katherine Frisk is a freelance writer, political commentator and the author of: Jesus Was A Palestinian. link (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/01/armageddon-is-not-turning-out-quite-as-gog-and-magog-planned-it/)

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""Sheikh Rashid: Son of Dubai's ruler dies of a heart attack aged 33..." link (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sheikh-rashid-son-dubais-ruler-dies-heart-attack-aged-33-1520358)

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1459691/sheikh-rashid-bin-mohammed-bin-rashid-al-maktoum.jpg

eldest son of a modern day Pharaoh...

from Ben's report

"align with Russia in Syria against ISIS and their Israeli and Gulf Cooperation Council backers, the sources said.

To make sure their message was being heard, the 33-year old Sheik Rashid of Dubai, one of the top ISIS supporters, was killed by heart attack, according to US intelligence sources."


" Saudi Arabia's safety record for religious pilgrimages was under scrutiny on Thursday after 717 people died in the worst disaster to strike the annual hajj pilgrimage in Mecca in 25 years.

At least 863 others were injured in the crush at Mina, a few miles east of Mecca, caused by two large groups of pilgrims arriving together at a crossroads on their way to performing the "stoning the devil" ritual at Jamarat, Saudi civil defence said... link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11887302/Eid-al-Adha-At-least-100-killed-and-hundreds-injured-in-crush-during-hajj-outside-Mecca.html)

now those of you following along watched this all unfold...



Today I was pleasantly surprised by Dubai's actions... He could of through mourning, gotten bitter, but instead he has made a move to make the world a better place by giving hope to those who need it most...

Dh1b Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum Global Initiatives launched

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"Dubai: His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, on Sunday launched the Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum Global Initiatives, a foundation combining several organisations under a single umbrella.

The initiatives will have an annual budget of Dh1 billion and will focus on four key areas: spreading knowledge; combating poverty, empowering communities and innovation for the future.

The new foundation consolidates the work of 28 organisations focusing on fighting poverty and illness; spreading knowledge and culture; empowering the community and driving innovation. It will work in general within 116 countries focusing mainly on the Arab region.

1,400 human development programs

Combined, the foundation’s initiatives will implement over 1,400 human development programs in more than 116 countries around the world.

Commenting on the launch, Shaikh Mohammed said, “The Arab region is undergoing massive challenges. We will not turn our backs on our region, we will provide our support and bring hope for our youth.”

He added: “The world today is facing great challenges on all levels; in terrorism, wars and mass immigration and the only solution lies in human development which can be achieved by educating people and helping them build their future.”

The Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum Global Initiatives will target over 130 million people over the coming years and will focus its programs on the Arab region.

It will also launch the largest and most comprehensive development program in the Arab region focusing on human development in an integrated manner starting with providing the basic human needs from health, fighting illiteracy and poverty through to providing knowledge, the dissemination of culture and the development of education.

Creating new generation of Arab leaders

It will work in parallel on developing a new generation of young Arab leaders, supporting real change in the area of good governance in the region and providing the largest incubator for Arab innovators, scientists and researchers.

The primary basic goals of the new foundation were announced, focusing on four main sectors: Fighting Poverty; Dissemination of Knowledge; Community Empowerment and Innovation for the Future.

The Initiatives will work on supporting and educating 20 million children and on the prevention and treatment of 30 million people from blindness and eye diseases until 2025. The foundation will also invest 2 billion dirhams establishing medical research centres and hospitals in the region.

The Initiatives include dedicating Dh500 million for research projects to address the need for concrete solutions to the water shortage issues of the region, a key challenge which will only intensify in decades to come.

Shaikh Mohammad commented: “Today we are embarking on a new beginning. My invitation is open to all countries, international foundations and organisations to participate with us in bringing new hope for our region.”

The Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum Global Initiatives will continue with its relief work and will empower more than two million families, enabling them to become self-sufficient within the next ten years. The new institution will also support young entrepreneurs in order to provide more than half a million jobs over the next few years.

In the field of spreading knowledge and science, and encouraging the translation of key works into Arabic, the Initiatives will work on printing and distributing more than 10 million books, and the translation of the top 25,000 titles from various languages to Arabic, as well as continuing with promoting a vibrant reading culture among school students.

The foundation will support programmes that aim to see over than 500 million books read over the next ten years across the Arab world. The investment in educational, knowledge, and scientific initiatives will total Dh1.5 billion to create real change in this sector.

Development strategy

The foundation will work within its overall development strategy on establishing a new culture in societies based on tolerance and cultural and civilisation openness.

To achieve this goal, the foundation has dedicated more than Dh600 million to promote a transparent and lively media dialogue and also to enable communities to live in harmony, away from extremism, ethnic, religious or sectarian discrimination.

Some Dh150 millionwill be awarded to encourage creatives, intellectuals, and journalists to create cultural discourse that is based in empowering communities, enhancing their cohesion, and increasing their cultural creativity. The institution will target over a million participants in awards and forums related to community empowerment over the next 10 years.

As part of its overall vision to develop the region, foundation will support innovation and scientists in the region by fostering 5,000 innovators and researchers and will invest more than Dh5.5 billion in building a better, world-standard environment for innovators in the region.

Fostering entrepreneurship

The institution will also focus on fostering entrepreneurship by supporting and nurturing 50,000 young entrepreneurs and supporting the establishment of new companies that will provide 500,000 job opportunities in the region during the coming years.

All of this is part of the institution’s comprehensive development vision to contribute, even if for just a little bit, towards eradicating unemployment and providing Arab youth with a dignified life, preventing them from being misguided and lured to terrorism.

The new foundation will be managed by a Board of Trustees which includes representatives of all the organisations brought together by the new Foundation. It will be chaired by Shaikh Mohammad. "The Arab region is undergoing massive challenges, and these challenges will continue for decades to come. We will not turn our backs on our region, we will provide our support, and bring hope in a better future for our youth,” Shaikh Mohammad said.

“The world has spent tens of billions on addressing global challenges. If only a quarter of this amount was spent on development in our region, we would overcome our challenges and our people could overcome their difficulties to restore their role in building vibrant societies which contribute to the development and wellbeing of mankind,” Shaikh Mohammad said.

Board of trustees

His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, approved the board of trustees for the Mohammad Bin Rashid Global Initiatives Foundation.

The board will be chaired by Shaikh Mohammad, while Shaikh Hamdan Bin Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Dubai Crown Prince, will serve as Deputy Chairman.

Other board members include Shaikh Maktoum Bin Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Deputy Ruler of Dubai, Princess Haya Bint Al Hussain, wife of Shaikh Mohammad, Shaikha Manal Bint Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Shaikh Ahmad Bin Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Chairman of the Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum Foundation, Shaikha Maitha Bint Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, in addition to a number of prominent figures who operate in the field of developmental and humanitarian work.

Mohammad Abdullah Al Gergawi, Minister of Cabinet Affairs, will serve as Secretary General of the foundation. link (http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/government/dh1b-mohammad-bin-rashid-al-maktoum-global-initiatives-launched-1.1594711)


seeing you spending a Billion a year on this instead of isis...

Thank you...

edited to add:

last night in my dream, I met your son in Nirvana, I walked up to him and he looked at me curiously, not understanding what happened or why he crossed over so suddenly. I explained who I was and how I have been God's messenger for 12 years.

Then I went into details of what you have done for the world, in all my messages, this is the first real change I've seen since this began.

I told him I was very proud of his Dad, and hope this is just the beginning of bringing the world together in peace. Ignorance is the reason this world has so much pain, sharing knowledge is the only way peace will become reality.

I told him Russia has stepped in and is erasing isis, the fighters are surrendering, 7700 have crossed borders into Jordan and laid down their arms. Some have walked into Turkey, others have surrendered to Assad, it is over.

He smiled, I knew in his heart, he had good or he wouldn't be there...

I hope all of the other bloodlines running this world, join the initiative of true change.

he says my story should be heard, and I said some day it will be, even if just over a cup of tea at the camp fire.

I have gotten in the faces of the strongest people on this planet, they have all the money in the world, but to me I see them all as very fragile, with numbered days.

he bowed as I stood and turned to leave...

He said sorry, and to tell you thank you, he will be with you, until you join him...

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http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/148822/gilgamesh.jpg?w=600


"The Epic of Gilgamesh recounts the story of Gilgamesh, the king of Uruk, Babylonia's ancient city. Gilgamesh is joined is his journey by Enkidu, a wild man initially created by the gods to kill Gilgamesh and stop the king from terrorizing his own people.

The two men became friends after an initial fight and journeyed to far lands together defeating monsters along the way.

The story is considered literature's first great accomplishment. Its chapters were etched in ancient tablets and the story was pieced together from the fragments recovered over the years. The story traces its roots to the 18th century B.C. Followers of the epic are familiar with the 1853 version discovered in Nineveh, the ancient Mesopotamian City which is now modern-day Iraq.

During the U.S.-led war in Iraq, ancient sites and museums were sacked. The initiative to 'intercept' the black market trade of archeological artifacts was started by the Sulaymaniyah Museum. Smugglers were paid to 'intercept' these treasures during their journey abroad. The scheme worked." link (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/93077/20151009/newly-discovered-tablets-reveal-lost-lines-from-the-epic-of-gilgamesh.htm)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kde-P_jffqk

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is there really a light at the end of the tunnel?

from Ben's report

""The rogue Netanyahu regime only added gasoline to the fire last week by faking a US air force air raid against Syrian government forces in Aleppo, according to other Pentagon sources. The Russians were not fooled by this maneuver and responded by sending missiles and fighter jets over Iranian airspace (with Iran’s permission of course) to attack multiple targets in the Middle East, killing hundreds of Israeli, Saudi and Turkish troops operating against international law in Syria and Iraq, the Pentagon sources say.

Fearing for his life and that of his regime, King Salman of Saudi Arabia checked into a hospital claiming severe Alzheimer’s disease while his son, the real power, Defense Minister and Crown Prince Salman flew to Russia where, according to Pentagon and Russian sources he offered the surrender of his regime. As the rather crude Arab saying goes “one day the stick is in your hand, the next day it is in your ass.” In effect, the Saudi prince bent over and offered Russia control of the oil market in exchange for his regime’s survival.

The Russians agreed with the Saudis that some sort of “political settlement,” including the end of the fake terrorist ISIS caliphate, was needed. However, with the Chinese, Russians and Iranians supporting Yemeni forces seizing key Saudi oil fields it looks increasingly likely the “political settlement” will be the abdication of that odious Satan worshipping pseudo-Muslim family and their ceding of control of the Muslim holy lands...

The other Middle Eastern autocrat who is in a deep state of funk is Turkey’s President Erdogan. The Pentagon is withdrawing all its forces and anti-missile defenses from Turkey as part of its general disengagement from the region...

Erdogan has been caught bombing Kurds in his own country, stealing industrial infrastructure from Syria, working with Israel and generally being an anti-social trouble maker. As payback, the Rothschild pipelines carrying Syrian and Iraqi stolen oil through Turkey are being cut off by the Russians and Kurds..." link (http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2015/10/benjamin-fulford-update-october-13-2015.html)

Federal Reserve is no longer privately owned, it is now a .Gov site...


good news folks, WW III has been canceled...


all US carriers have pulled out of the Persian gulf...

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after the Gilgamesh video, this started playing, well worth the listen...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFv4rbBkhg

at 25 minutes in, he talks of how many stories from the bible are directly from the Sumerian Tablets

at 1hr 20 minutes he explains how the banking system was brought here by the Sumarians, he goes off on the bankers, explains his multiple lawsuits trying to expose the criminal banking system.

bankers have held us as slaves for 6000 years...

ETs appointed the Kings, created money...

Courts back the banking cartel, they have never sided with a person against the banks. It would create a precedent that would bring down the global banking systems.

Schools are created to program children's minds how to grow up and be good little slaves...

I really like this guy, Bill's friend Creto cried when he shared pictures of where he trained as a Shaman when he was a young man.

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...I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?


...my throne is in Kurdistan...


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mapas/mapa_futureworld_small.jpg

noticed this last night on Gordon micheal Scallions future map of the world....

if you take a look at what today would be modern day kurdistan on the future map, it is left standing in generally the same shape as is presented today...with (what looks to me) like the majority of elam is still above water...

thunder, allow me to suggest listening to another Ralph Elis video. Elis is one of the world's leading scholars offering alternate Biblical interpretations, based on Archaeological Evidence discovered over the past 100+ years.

Elis will explain in this video (or better yet, get the book) how the New Testament story of Jesus was based on the life of a King from Edessa, Ancient Kurdistan, modern day Şanlıurfa, Turkey.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsNOAUMyKIo

Please take the time to listen to the Elis Videos that I've offered. Without foundational understanding, one cannot possibly have an intelligent debate.

add/edit:

Here's another Elios Video in the series on Jesus, King of Edessa. You might find more information contained within this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7aczBdyFw0

that location in Turkey is where the 12,500 year old Spiritual center is... remember U R far? Urfa

birthplace of Abraham, and now, King Jesus?

this is where the huge isis battle was fought recently 30 miles away in Kobane...

Kurds are the ancient protectors of the holy lands, now this is getting interesting,

Thanks again...

found more on Joseph, who wrote the prophesy of Elam...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eltGRqnbZW8

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Putin,

When you meet with Iraq, break the news to them, it is time for change. Western Iraq, is going under the Jurisdiction of Jordan

Iran is going to take over Baghdad and South Iraq

equal voting rights are going to both as a state joining a nation. Representation must be a given.

in Iran, for exchange for a New state in their nation, they will forfeit Kurdistan back to it's Nation.

after Turkey's war crimes, Erdogan should be hanging by a rope for what he has done to the Kurds, but Kurds were the beginning, where the arc landed, protecting holy sites, this world doesn't even know is holy. The silent protectors, as seen in Indiana Jones movies, they are the Mujahideen.

Erdogan wants al Bagdadi the Jewish Caliphate of isis to die, not to end isis, but to allow him to become Calif, Supreme leader, over all under his rule. Opponents will be killed, secularism destroyed, Ottoman Empire 2. He wants Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, and once they are all his, he wants Israel...

he is on his knees, begging for help from NATO

a few republicans are begging for him, but a majority are done... sitting in silence knowing this isn't our war...

now we find out the twisted role Mossad is playing in all of this...

so many agents lost it is considered a Genocide by most Jewish leaders...

these Jewish leaders consider you Putin dude, to be a second rate citizen, not worthy of their laws, much less beliefs...

will you bow to the goldsmith, kiss his toe to show devotion?

our congress has, friggen girlymen... grow some coconuts.

helping Israel, never meant destroying America to do it.

they are not just taking us down, they are dragging the whole world down, and plan on being the saviors that come up with financing to float the world...

time for change, Turkey, bow to Kurdistan, they will be the heart of the middle east soon, and one of the best friends you could ever have.

[observer]

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found more on Joseph, who wrote the prophesy of Elam...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eltGRqnbZW8

Rocky, sorry it took so long to respond to this comment.

If you recall we both shared information regarding these 'forbidden' archeological ruins in the Grand Canyon, far back in the Old Project Avalon Forum, before this current evolution of the website. This video was a good find. I'm adding it to my library - thanks.

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Your Grande Mufta told you to take Saudi Arabia and Israel, instantly under your "Christian" control.

All religions are killing themselves because they aren't Christian...

Is that really something so hard to comprehend, for anyone?

If you are Jewish, you are better and should kill all lesser beings...

If you are Islamic, you are chosen and should kill all non believers in your faith...

"That is what Donald Trump thinks most Muslims are, which is sad. I ask him to call me next time he is in town, and I will invite him for a dance with Muslims, they don't drink, which you would think is too much like you, loose lips when you are awake catches important nuggets. I understand that, but I want you to meet with a group of American Muslims... You will meet, and most likely think too kind for what you deserve... but these are real Muslims, don't let the cut throat boneheads acting like Muslim saviors on Foxnews be your only opinion of these wonderful hearts. I know the other side, which is what 99.5% of them feel... Be Kind, you've listened to me before, I've liked you since I sprayed your Island Princess down by Hyannis... :pound: water skiing half a life ago.

If you are Christian, you don't see anything difference in anyone...

If you are good to them, they are good back, and watch your back like it is promised...

I do not know one Muslim, that would rather be under Sharia law than of mine... Living by Sharia Law, is far different than living under it. All Muslims know in themselves to follow the laws, they don't need an oppressive government to prey on them. Grande Ayasolla of Iran, this message isn't just to Putin, it was a message to you. If your State is going to join the Nation, you must accept Christian Laws by Mohammad's promise, you will accept the laws accepted by Christians. I eat a huge Baked ham for Christmas and love my Dog, closest thing to God we will ever meet on this world. there has never been a suicide bomber that owns a dog in the history of man... If a Muslim meets a dog that follows, care for it, and it will care for you, believe me, you will be forgiven. I think it is the cruelest thing ever written into Law.

10 Commandments are all I need, and so far I made it... ;-)

I'm not God, but I can tell you through knowing, he didn't write Sharia law, Man did, God chose a Christian as a messenger, because the other religions are not the laws he wants us to follow. Religion is just a gathering of Believers, there is only one God, hatred is not possible through like beings unless it is created.

A God who was, is, and will be, has no fear and would never divide his children, you are one and part of Me, so live and love, life is too short for looking at differences. Gather in love, healing will follow, no one is bad, but everyone is hurting... Bless all as to approach in the name of the son, or the old man and his wife, as long as you're smiling, who cares.

The bible ended long before Jesus had a brother, named Mohammad
his elder brother Jesus is known by Muslims as one of the most important prophets in their Holy Books... King David another.

Who knew the Church of Sardis was left in the bible, with a typo no one noticed until now... That message was written to the Church of Saudis, which is where Mecca lies, the birthplace of Islam, by one of the best known Prophets John in Revelation. Where did he get his message? How did he know 600 years before the religion was created, it would be needed 2000 years later to bring us all together.

The Seven fold Spirit... "Go back to what you believed in the beginning..."

think of the times you have sought differences and realized how close we really are...

I believe in the promise Mohammad made to Christians...

The Promise of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) to The Christians of St. Catherine

In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine’s Monastery came to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and requested his protection. He responded by granting them the following charter of rights. St. Catherine’s Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai in modern-day Egypt and is the world’s oldest monastery. It possesses a huge collection of Christian manuscripts, second only to the Vatican, and is a world heritage site. It also boasts the oldest collection of Christian icons. It is a treasure house of Christian history that has remained safe for 1,400 years under Muslim protection.

The Eternal Promise:

“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

The promise is eternal and universal. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) ordering Muslims to obey it until the Day of Judgment. The charter imposes no conditions on Christians for enjoying its privileges. It is enough that they are Christians. They are not required to alter their beliefs, they do not have to make any payments and they do not have any obligations. This is a charter of rights without any duties.

The document is not a modern human rights treaty but, even though it was penned in 628 AD, it clearly protects the right to property, freedom of religion, freedom of work, and security of the person. Quote from Islamic Supreme Council Website (http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/the-promise-of-prophet-muhammad-peace-be-upon-him-to-the-christians-of-st-catherine/)

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found more on Joseph, who wrote the prophesy of Elam...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eltGRqnbZW8

Rocky, sorry it took so long to respond to this comment.

If you recall we both shared information regarding these 'forbidden' archeological ruins in the Grand Canyon, far back in the Old Project Avalon Forum, before this current evolution of the website. This video was a good find. I'm adding it to my library - thanks.

It was the first time I heard these artifacts are on display...

Joseph was a dream interpreter for the Pharoah, and he traveled to the US 10 times?

Did he know through dreams the King of Elam he predicted in prophecy would live an hour from the Grand Canyon temple?

Did he leave something meant to be found by the King?

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uh oh... :peep:

November 30, 2015

Putin Warns Obama That “Times of the Messiah” Have Started

A sensational report prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) states that President Putin, during a private meeting with President Barack Obama earlier today in Paris, presented to America’s leader a 23 November document written by the Supreme Church Council of the Russian Orthodox Church under the authority of His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia proclaiming that the “Times of the Messiah” have now begun.

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President Vladimir Putin and President Barack Obama, Paris, France, 30 November 2015
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His Holiness Patriarch Kirill (far right) at the 23 November 2015 meeting of the Supreme Church Council

According to this MoFA report, this extraordinary Supreme Church Council “end of times” document was initiated nearly 5 years ago at the behest of Israel’s top religious leader, Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, who even before this document was finished last week, became so concerned about it that he warned the Jewish peoples all over the world, this past July, that the Messiah was soon to come—and named a date of significance to be 12 September 2015, the exact date President Putin formally authorized Aerospace Forces to begin bombing in Syria—and which began on 30 September.

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Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky (center, seated), July, 2015, Warning His Followers That The Arrival Of The Messiah Is Imminent

The main substance of this “end of times” document presented to President Obama by President Putin today, this report continues, concerns the prophecies made in the 18th century by one of histories most powerful Jewish scholars, Elijah ben Shlomo Zalman (Rabbi Elija ben Solomon) who is also known as Vilna Gaon—the genius of Vilna.

And most critical of these prophecies made by Vilna Gaon that exactly pertains to today’s world events, this report states, and examined in depth by both the Supreme Church Council and Rabbi Kanievsky, was the one he gave shortly before his death in 1797 that warned:

“When you hear that the Russians have captured the city of Crimea, you should know that the times of the Messiah have started, that his steps are being heard. And when you hear that the Russians have reached the city of Constantinople (today’s Istanbul), you should put on your Shabbat clothes and don’t take them off, because it means that the Messiah is about to come any minute.”

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Contemporaneous wood block printed depiction of Vilna Gaon circa 1790

Important to note about this Vilna Gaon prophecy too, this report says, are that there are two translations of it, the second being:

“When the ships of the kingdom of Russia will cross the Dardanelles you [Israel] should dress in Sabbath clothes because this means that the arrival of the Messiah is close. When you see the Russian armies begin to move southward and enter Turkey, put on your Sabbath garments and get ready to welcome the Messiah.”

Together with the Sea of Marmara and the Bosporus, this report explains, the Dardanelles connects the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea which is a vital transit route for Russian Naval ships conducting their mission against Islamic State terrorists, and which many believe Turkey may close—and should that happen would mean an immediate invasion of Turkey by Russia to reopen it.

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As to the methods employed by Vilna Gaon in making this prophecy, this report continues, centers upon his genius level intelligence first exhibited when he was a child, and by the time he was an adult made him one of the greatest scholars of Jewish mathematical-religious studies the world has ever known—an art that was only recently rediscovered, in 1994, by the publication of the scientific article titled “Equidistant letter sequences in the Book of Genesis”.

Known more popularly in today’s culture as the Bible Code (or Torah Code), this report further explains, Vilna Gaon discovered a set of secret messages encoded within the Hebrew text of the Torah and this hidden code has been described as a method by which specific letters from the text can be selected to reveal an otherwise obscured message.

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Contributing to this Supreme Church Council’s document now in the possession of President Obama, this report concludes, was the Vilna Gaon Jewish State Museum in Vilnius, Lithuania, and the Federal Security Services (FSB) historical archives—and which upon these documents being discovered in 2014 Russian FSB researchers, were then provided not only to the Church, but also to the great-grandson of Vilna Gaon, Rabbi Moshe Shternbuch.

And even though this report doesn’t speculate on what President Obama will do with this “Times of the Messiah” document, it is important to note that with Russia’s retaking of Crimea in March, 2014, and now war appearing likely to occur at any moment between Russia and Turkey, one would surely hope that even in today’s world, God’s warnings and messages to humanity will be heeded... link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1950.htm)

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and Fulford's latest...

Benjamin Fulford 12-1-15… “As promised, the Illuminati offer a carved up Turkey for thanksgiving while world leaders talk gas in Paris”

"The Illuminati, through their “grandmaster” Alexander Romanov, promised a surprise for Thanksgiving this year and even gave us a hint of what it would be by showing a map of Turkey on his website. Now Pentagon sources are saying that Turkey is going to pay for its funding of ISIS and its aggression in the Middle East by having large areas of its territory confiscated. The same is going to happen to Israel, both Illuminati and Pentagon sources say. Saudi Arabia, for its part, will cease to exist as a Saudi family private property playground, they say.

This take-down of the Khazarian mafia is happening as world leaders gather in Paris to talk about using global warming pseudo-science to promote a very real economic campaign to stop environmental destruction and end reliance on fossil fuels. More about that later.

For now, the main action is concentrated on Turkey where Germany has joined France, Russia, Iran, Egypt and the Pentagon in fighting against the Turkish, Israeli, Saudi and Khazarian mercenary army known as ISIS.

The Pentagon prepared the ground for this campaign months ago by withdrawing all patriot missile defenses from Turkey and Israel. This paved the way for the Russian air-force to set up a no-fly zone throughout the Middle East, including Israel and now most of soon to be former NATO ally Turkey, Pentagon sources say.

Turkey is expected to imminently lose territory on several different fronts, Pentagon and Russian sources say. France, the former colonial master of Syria, is supporting a Syrian demand that Turkey return the Arabic majority province of Hatay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatay_Province

that was taken from them in 1937.

Meanwhile, the Russians and the Pentagon are now also supporting removing another huge chunk of Turkey to create a Kurdish state, the sources say. Finally, the nation of Armenia may also be about to get some historical payback, they say. Russian troops have poured into Armenia for the purpose of confiscating chunks land in North East Turkey near the Armenian border and returning them to Armenia, Pentagon and Russian sources say. The Russians have already installed anti-aircraft batteries in Armenia and created a no-fly zone in preparation for the seizure of this territory, they say. As a Pentagon official put it “It looks like Putin will be carving up a turkey for Christmas.”

The question of course is why did Turkish President Recep Erdogan trigger this massive attack on his country by shooting down a Russian bomber? The best guess is that Erdogan fell into a clever trap. Somebody must have told him that if he ordered the downing of a Russian bomber then NATO would come to his rescue and support his bid to recreate the Ottoman Empire.

The other thing that several sources are saying is that Erdogan, along with Benyamin Netanyahu of Israel, the Bush/Clinton crime family and the Saudi royal family are all members of the Khazarian mafia who believe it is their destiny to create a New World Order. They are all descendants of the ancient Satan worshipping Hyksos tribe of human slavers and their NWO plan was to kill 90% of humanity and enslave the rest. Instead, the NWO is blowing up in their faces.

An analysis of Middle Eastern oil trade connected to ISIS made it very clear that oil was being stolen from Iraq and Syria by mercenary armies financed by Saudi Arabia and other Gulf oil monarchies. Furthermore, the stolen oil was all being sold by either Turkey or Israel. Not only that but multiple media reports confirm this weekly’s assertions the European Rothschild family, another Khazarian Satanic bloodline, have been deeply involved in massive oil theft.

The Illuminati and the Pentagon sources both say that many of the Rothschilds, Benyamin Netanyahu and the Erdogan family are now “high value targets.”

According to Sorcha Faal, an information/disinformation site set up by US Naval Intelligence, Erdogan’s son Bilal is now on the run because he raped, tortured and murdered British and American female journalists who were reporting on Turkey’s support of ISIS. In this case, the report has a strong ring of truth to it.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1949.htm

In any case, once Turkey is finished with, the Russians and Syrians are expected to carry out a joint military campaign to wrest the Golan Heights from Israel. Following that, Israel will be forced to make a permanent peace with its neighbors in exchange for the return of stolen land.

Saudi Arabia is also being increasingly exposed as one of the most tyrannical regimes on the planet. The latest example of what sort of regime this is can be seen in reports that a Sri Lankan woman is about to be stoned to death by a mob as punishment for adultery.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3337297/Saudi-Arabia-sentences-married-maid-death-stoning-adultery-man-slept-escape-100-lashes.html

Inside the US as well, a purge of the Khazarian mafia is continuing. Jeb Bush for example, is now widely reviled as part of the traitorous gangster family that was complicit in 911 and countless other crimes. As a result, he has virtually vanished from the corporate media where, until recently, he was talked about as if he were an anointed Presidential candidate. Neo-con traitor John McCain for his part is showing signs of mental instability, CIA sources say. The rest of the Khazarian mob in the US is also terrified because the sources of their power, the Federal Reserve Board and the corporate government of the United States are bankrupt. Major European allies like France, Germany, Italy, England, Switzerland etc. have already abandoned them.

Now a Canadian group is now trying to negotiate a friendly take-over bid of the United States Corporate government. The Canadians are offering good government, friendly foreign policy and a fair economic playing field for all Americans if their bid succeeds. The Pentagon, the Chinese, the Europeans and others have shown an initial positive reaction when asked to support this bid. This is all very preliminary though, sources close to the bid offer say.

In Japan as well, signs are that that Khazarian mob rule is going to finally be taken down. Members of the Japan independence party and this writer showed up at a CSIS conference in Tokyo where Khazarian cabalist mass murderers Richard Armitage, Michael Green and Kurt Campbell were giving lectures. These people were forced to scuttle away from their conference pursued by protesters. After this, Japan Independence Party head Richard Koshimizu and this writer went to the nearby Marunouchi Police Station to present evidence the above individuals were criminals. The Japanese police showed an interest in making prosecutions but requested more evidence, which is being provided.

A photograph of some of the protesters and the banners they showed to these criminals is below.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_vspqdt0_w8/VlyI8oQNmxI/AAAAAAAAD1k/ittyY0GJW-s/s400/protesters.png

The Illuminati promised their support for Japan and will be presenting, in person, an ultimatum to key Khazarian agents and proxies there to hand over control of the process of creating and distributing Japanese yen to the Japanese people. Representatives of the Japanese underworld attending the protest promised they would support nationalizing the Khazarian controlled bank of Japan. Michael Green, head of Mossad Japan is now a priority target, they said. Certain senior Japanese oligarchs are also going to be given discrete warnings to stop cooperating with the Khazarian mob or else face “terminal consequences.”

Meanwhile in Europe, the moderate faction of the cabal that has been running the West has gathered over 140 world leaders to Paris for two weeks to try to force them to come up with a solution to “global warming.” While it is unfortunate these people feel the need to lie about global warming to justify their plans, they nonetheless are trying to come up with a way to force corporations to pay for any eco-systems they destroy. They are also hoping to come up with a way to make it profitable to rebuild or create new forests and nature preserves. It is a sign the old world order is realizing how much damage their politico-economic systems have done to the planet. It may be too little, too late but at least it shows they are finally waking up to the enormous harm they have done.

Finally, in another bit of good news, human trials have begun on the first of what is expected to be many anti-aging drugs to become available. Clinical evidence shows this particular drug, Metformin, will allow people to live healthy lives past the age of 120.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11553026

Also, Chinese researchers have finally forced a debate on whether and when to begin allowing humans to edit and improve their own genes. For now the debate centers on removing genes for nasty inherited diseases. However, it will not be long before some people go ahead and get infra-red seeing eyes, super muscles and other powers already available with existing gene technology.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/nov/28/gene-editing-weapon-against-disease-or-ethical-nightmare

The Chinese are already going ahead with this technology by allowing couples to choose the best possible genes from their own gene pool for their children.

The Chinese are already going ahead with this technology by allowing couples to choose the best possible genes from their own gene pool for their children.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2539596/Get-ready-superbaby-Chinese-firm-set-allow-parents-pick-smartest-embryos.html

Either the West will have to end the ban on gene improvement for their own people or else watch as Westerners become obsolete genetic relics.

The Khazarian mob’s attempts to keep our lives brutish and short, so that we do not live long enough to wake up, are coming to an end. link (http://hipknowsys.blogspot.com/2015/11/benjamin-fulford-november-30-2015-as.html?spref=tw)

people paint the Illuminati as an evil secretive society, but very few know the top echelon are all religious leaders moving the world forward as planned...

can we speed this up a little and have it done by my birthday, I want a relaxing Christmas this year...

with a Big ol Baked ham to go with the Turkey...


edited to add: I just did a quick search for Alexander Romanov's Turkey map, and it came showing a map with him in Istanbul... just a coincidence, or is this all really going down now...

this came up too in the same search...

"the moment Bill Clinton signed America over to Banker control by shattering the Glass Steagall Act
https://eclinik.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/clinton_signs_glass_steagall_repeal.jpeg

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was surprised seeing Ben reference Sorcha, but as I've been saying for a while, there is a letter agency war going on and disinfo sources have turned to whistleblowers...

this is the report he referenced

Turkish President’s Son Who Raped And Murdered American And British Reporters Becomes Fugitive

A shocking new Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that an arrest warrant has been issued for the son of Turkey’s President Recep Erdogan after he failed to appear in a Turkish Superior Court investigating the Erdogan “inner circle” criminal cartel, and that further investigation by Russian analysts has, also, linked him to the rape and murders of American and British reporters who uncovered, and reported on, Turkey’s support for Islamic State terrorists in Syria.

According to this report, the SVR was authorized this past week to open an international criminal investigation of Bilal Erdogan, the son of Turkey’s President, after an agreement was made between President Putin and French President Francois Hollande to target the Erdogan criminal cartel after the shooting down of an Aerospace Forces bomber aircraft over Syria that Syrian Information Minister, Omran al-Zoubi, stated was revenge for Russia’s destruction of the Islamic State-Turkey oil smuggling business that has earned these criminals nearly one billion dollars.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/bec1.jpg

Bilal Erdogan (far right) with known Islamic State leaders

Though the SVR has long known of Bilal Erdogan’s links with Islamic State terrorists on behalf of his father’s criminal cartel, this report continues, there were only two Western reporters this past year who reported to their viewers/readers on these facts, Serena Shim and Jacky Sutton, who both were raped and murdered by Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT) under orders given personally by President Erdogan.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/bec2.jpg

American Reporter Serena Shim

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/bec3.png

British Reporter Jacky Sutton

Serena Shim, this report notes, was a reporter for the Western news service of Iran’s Press TV when on 19 October 2014 she was captured, tortured, raped and murdered by Turkish MIT agents just days after she released a stunning report detailing Turkey’s support of Islamic State terrorists—and which after the release of this broadcast was branded by the Erdogan criminal cartel as a spy, a completely made up accusation she replied against by stating:

“I’m very surprised at this accusation – I even thought of approaching Turkish intelligence because I have nothing to hide… I am a bit worried, because…Turkey has been labeled by Reporters Without Borders as the largest prison for journalists…so I am frightened about what they might use against me… We were some of the first people on the ground –if not the first people – to get that story of…militants going in through the Turkish border…I’ve got images of them in World Food Organization trucks. It was very apparent that they were militants by their beards, by the clothes they wore, and they were going in there with NGO trucks.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ND3CWaAmaA

On the one year anniversary of Serena Shim’s brutal rape and murder, this report continues, former BBC producer Jacky Sutton, as the Iraq director for the Institute of War and Peace Reporting (IWPR), began an in-depth report on her death when she too was brutally raped and murdered on 18 October by Turkish MIT agents too.

In Turkey’s MIT “amateur/clumsy/absurd” cover-up of the rape and murders of Serena Shim and Jacky Sutton, this report further notes, they claimed that Shim was killed in an auto accident that neither the driver or vehicle were ever identified or provided, and that Sutton suicided herself by hanging herself by her shoelaces in an Istanbul airport restroom because she had missed her flight.

Most appallingly, this report continues, has been that Turkey’s MIT has continued their lies about these deaths even after, on 20 October, new video was released proving that Jacky Sutton went through Istanbul airport security in time to make her flight.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wflrOntfjXE

Most disturbing, however, in this report is the SVR stating that electronic surveillance of Bilal Erdogan on the dates of these crimes (19 October 2014 and 18 October 2015) show him in the exact locations of both Serena Shim and Jacky Sutton thus providing enough prima-facie evidence of his complicity along with Turkey’s MIT in the rape and murder of these two women that warrants continued investigation, if not an outright indictment for rape and murder.

As always too, this report concludes, the Western propaganda media continues to cover-up the rape and murder of these two heroic reporters with neither the American or British regimes even investigating these atrocities—which should come as no surprise as the hatred towards women of both the US and UK is well known as evidenced by their continued support of the largest women’s prison the world has ever known, Saudi Arabia. link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1949.htm)

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/bec4.png

[observer]

[....snip]
found more on Joseph, who wrote the prophesy of Elam...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eltGRqnbZW8

Rocky, sorry it took so long to respond to this comment.

If you recall we both shared information regarding these 'forbidden' archeological ruins in the Grand Canyon, far back in the Old Project Avalon Forum, before this current evolution of the website. This video was a good find. I'm adding it to my library - thanks.

It was the first time I heard these artifacts are on display...

Joseph was a dream interpreter for the Pharoah, and he traveled to the US 10 times?

Did he know through dreams the King of Elam he predicted in prophecy would live an hour from the Grand Canyon temple?

Did he leave something meant to be found by the King?

Rocky,

I'm completely at a loss regarding your comment about, "The King of Elam". I watched the video two times and could find no reference to such a King.

Where is the link to any current location regarding the residency of this alleged King of Elam, and how does it relate to the video in question, other than an abstract dream-world relationship?

It was an excellent video, however another researcher, Jerry Wills, who has spent much time studying the Grand-Canyon-Phenomenon, believes it was the result of an oriental migration, and he offers a lot of evidence to support that theory.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vPwcTuSqPs

The point is, I believe the Grand Canyon Ruins, are further evidence that a Global Civilization existed, far into antiquity, and that most of our orthodox archeological research is flawed in dating a great amount of the archeology we are all familiar with.

*add:
This Greater-Antiquity-Theory is also supported with the knowledge that all mythology from antiquity - including all Biblical, Koran, and Hindu mythologies, yes MYTHOLOGUES - are flawed. The only truth one can glean from this sort of literature is in observing the reoccurring templets.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the prophesy for the King of Elam is what I was researching when I ran across that video, Elam is modern day Kurdistan

Joseph prophesized that God was going to return and place his throne in Elam

through divine destiny, David became King of Elam/Kurdistan

[observer]

the prophesy for the King of Elam is what I was researching when I ran across that video, Elam is modern day Kurdistan

Joseph prophesized that God was going to return and place his throne in Elam

through divine destiny, David became King of Elam/Kurdistan

Thanks for that explanation, but how does that explain this?, "Did he know through dreams the King of Elam he predicted in prophecy would live an hour from the Grand Canyon temple?"

[Rocky_Shorz]

the prophesy for the King of Elam is what I was researching when I ran across that video, Elam is modern day Kurdistan

Joseph prophesized that God was going to return and place his throne in Elam

through divine destiny, David became King of Elam/Kurdistan

Thanks for that explanation, but how does that explain this?, "Did he know through dreams the King of Elam he predicted in prophecy would live an hour from the Grand Canyon temple?
"

if like the videos mention, the Pharaoh's right hand man Joseph traveled from Egypt to America up to 10 times.

the King used to live in Sedona by the vortexes... that is pretty close to the Grand Canyon temple

[observer]

the prophesy for the King of Elam is what I was researching when I ran across that video, Elam is modern day Kurdistan

Joseph prophesized that God was going to return and place his throne in Elam

through divine destiny, David became King of Elam/Kurdistan

Thanks for that explanation, but how does that explain this?, "Did he know through dreams the King of Elam he predicted in prophecy would live an hour from the Grand Canyon temple?
"

if like the videos mention, the Pharaoh's right hand man Joseph traveled from Egypt to America up to 10 times.

the King used to live in Sedona by the vortexes... that is pretty close to the Grand Canyon temple

O.K. I must have missed the part in the "Ancient Egyptians Came To America" Video where it said the "King of Elam" came to Sedona. It's not important.

But, let's revisit the "Joseph coming to the Grand Canyon 10 times" issue a bit further.

Anyone, with common sense, will realize that traveling back-and-forth to the American Continent from Northern Africa, and still maintaining any sort of political control in the homeland, as many as ten times during the alleged reign of Pharaoh Joseph, would be next to impossible, given the mode of transportation attributed to the Ancient Egyptians by orthodox archeology.

If the evidence truly does show Joseph made this trek ten times, than the mode of transportation would have to be something much different than the current understanding allows.

This alone supports the theory that all of this history occurred much further-back into antiquity, and further supports the understanding that all our mythologies are flawed - including the orthodox understanding of our history.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The King of Elam/Kurdistan is alive now, Joseph according to the video traveled to the US...

Joseph became right hand man of the Pharoah after interpreting a dream stock piling food to prepare for a deadly drought, Kings handed over Kingdoms for food to feed their subjects.

Joseph is the reason Egypt grew to its biggest empire in history.

From what I understand it was during this time Egypt claimed the new world, calling it Memphis.

Blue dude levitates like Budha, he was carved into one of the monolithic stones in Egypt.

So that religion was around Egypt at the time.

For those who look back at their hyroglyphs understand the Gods of Egypt were ETs

The Pharoah saw much more reality from them, than Hindu

What if Joseph had the same gifts as my Seer, able to see and communicate with the blue dude, all those around him like me, unable to see and hear him...

[thunder24]

The Egyptian Legend of Zoroaster–More Evidence of Joseph?


Zoroaster was in Egypt when times became less prosperous and Egypt was turning into a poor nation. Zoroaster’s first name had previously been ‘Joseph’ because his God was higher and more powerful in the heavens than the Sun God of the Egyptians, Ra. After all, it was his God who gave him the ability to interpret Pharaoh’s dream.



Zoroaster (Joseph) built an enormous boat that had Wings, (sails) that was able to transport large numbers of people to a place where more grain and gold was discovered for the use of the Egyptians. When he returned to Egypt from his adventurous journey, his boat was loaded with gold and grain. So the Pharaoh made him Ruler of Egypt and called him Zaphenat-Pa’aneah, and Pharaoh was like a Father to King Zaphnath Paaneah. http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/04/ancient-egyptians-came-to-america-and-so-did-joseph-of-the-bible-who-was-king-of-a-second-egyptian-empire-in-the-usa-video-evidence-and-detailed-pictures-2460666.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/238056/images/Zoroaster_templegrandcanyon%2520430.jpg
Zoroaster (Joseph) Temple in the Grand Canyon was named by Hopi Indians

seems joseph built a really big boat(forest gump voice)....with wings...i suppose that could make a trip ten times or more....

[observer]

You're correct thunder, Zoroastrianism, once one of the largest religions on the planet, dominated the Euphrates Valley for as long as modern archeologists say the Egyptian Empire existed in the Nile Valley.

That puts the beginnings of Zoroastrianism back to around the time of Pharaoh Joseph, possibly as far back as 3,000 BC.

Joseph, of the robe-of-many-colors fame, also had many names, as we all can clearly see. Assuming he reigned at the beginning of the Egyptian Empire, and not sometime in the later history of Egypt, as the Old Testament claims, then it is very likely Zoroaster was also Joseph. This would explain why the oral tradition of the Hopi named one of the mountains in the Grand Canyon after him, Zoroaster, i.e. Joseph.

It would also go further to the argument that there was a Global Civilization in Great Antiquity.

This all further goes to the conclusion, the history we have been told is all flawed. Things happened in great antiquity that have been lost, or purposely expunged from the historic record. All the evidence points to that conclusion.

Here's something from my Archive Library on Zoroastrianism you might enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fCRqAlQoc

[observer]

[....snip]

What if Joseph had the same gifts as my Seer, able to see and communicate with the blue dude, all those around him like me, unable to see and hear him...

....or, what if everything your Seer hears, are from voices that are artificially implanted into his brain?

Just another possibility....

[Rocky_Shorz]

We both have different gifts, mine is telepathy, when we first met him he appeared asca Sasquach, but she saw he had a blue skeleton, I looked through her eyes, and said take off the costume. He took it off she hid behind me and asked if he was an alien... I laughed she had no problem talking to a couple 9 foot apes, but was frightened by a shiny blue skinned alien.

I have tested the possibility through many means.

But a few things he has said and done convinced me hecis their.

Telepathy is very subtle, what you hear is your voice, your thoughts...

Then something comes through beyond your imagination, a thought you would have never had on your own.

That's when you realize someone else is there.

You ask who is this and hear laughter, how often do you laugh in your thoughts?

I'm not talking thinking of a funny joke, but asking a question...

I am shielded from intrusion, when black ops tried a few years back I had extreme headaches. Like someone was trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.

But blue dude, just whispers and I hear, it isn't electronic creation.

He never sits down, he levitates with his legs crossed...

So what I am trying to say is, what was found in Arizona. May have looked Asian, but pre RA Hindu budhist beliefs could have been world wide.

What the ETs taught us, was what was believed...

[thunder24]

You're correct thunder, Zoroastrianism, once one of the largest religions on the planet, dominated the Euphrates Valley for as long as modern archeologists say the Egyptian Empire existed in the Nile Valley. ....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fCRqAlQoc

thanks for the video... i enjoyed it though the speaker is very animated at points...it was interesting video...

one thing i find very interesting about it is that the magi were medes which are kurds...

The Priesthood of the Medes

.The ancient Magi were a hereditary priesthood of the Medes (known today as the Kurds) credited with profound and extraordinary religious knowledge. After some Magi, who had been attached to the Median court, proved to be expert in the interpretation of dreams, Darius the Great established them over the state religion of Persia. (2) (Contrary to popular belief, the Magi were not originally followers of Zoroaster. (3) That all came later.)

It was in this dual capacity, whereby civil and political counsel was invested with religious authority, that the Magi became the supreme priestly caste of the Persian empire and continued to be prominent during the subsequent Seleucid, Parthian, and Sasanian periods. (4)

The Role of Daniel

One of the titles given to Daniel was Rab-mag, the Chief of the Magi. (5) His unusual career included being a principal administrator in two world empires--the Babylonian and the subsequent Persian Empire. When Darius appointed him, a Jew, over the previously hereditary Median priesthood, the resulting repercussions led to the plots involving the ordeal of the lion's den. (6)

Daniel apparently entrusted a Messianic vision (to be announced in due time by a "star") to a secret sect of the Magi for its eventual fulfillment. But first let's review some historical background. http://www.ldolphin.org/magi.html

now another thing of note *to me*....is that if joseph was zorastar...this means he most likely was a kurd and since zoraster followers were astrologers, they could more easily navigate their way to america... thus kurds came to america and according to rocky ...the king of the kurds is close to the grandcanyon where they set up the temple and all that... i find these connections grabbing my attention...but I don't expect anyone else to "believe" what im seeing... hell i don't even fully know what im seeing yet...

in the video above , the lecturer speaks upon pegasus being the white horse in revelation... if you take the info in this article...http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/pegasus.html

PEGASUS THE REVELATION

The Christian Bible refers to the White Horse which

appears in the sky.

Being a Greek document, one can easily understand

that the Bible is referring to Pegasus.

The one and only white horse whose location is the sky.


But Pegasus is not limited to the sky.

In the human body the place of memory

is called "hippocampus"



The word hippocampus means sea horse.

The father of Pegasus was Poseidon the God of the Sea.



In addition, Stedmans medical dictionary defines the hippocampus

of the brain as a white eminence.



Thus Pegasus is the white sea horse of Revelation and the white

sea horse in the sky, and in addition, the white sea horse

of memory within you.



What makes this even more interesting is the fact that

Pegasus was sacred to the Muses.

The mother of the Muses is Mnemosyne who is the Goddess of memory .

Pegasus which is the hippocampus of the brain is responsible for memory.

Pegasus is connected to Mnemosyne who is the Goddess of memory.....

Zeus would ride on the back of Pegasus and hurl

lightening bolts across the skies.

This means that enlightenment comes from God or Zeus.



The white horse of the heavens is Pegasus and the

Book of Revelation tells us that Jesus will return

on a white horse.

Thus both Zeus and Jesus ride on Pegasus.



And Pegasus the white horse is the hippocampus of the brain

or the place of memory which allows us to understand the

2nd coming of Jesus as a renewal of the mind,

a new consciousness.


Not only does the Bible say that Jesus returns on the white horse

(which is Pegasus, the horse of Zeus) but it also quotes Jesus

as saying that the return of the Son of Man would be as

"lightening from east to west Enlightenment from the

right hemisphere to the left.

And Zeus threw lightning from Pegasus



Jesus and Zeus are one and the same,

both creations of the Greek mind of mythology to bring

us to an, understanding of ourselves and the cosmos

in which we live......



...and you take the line of thought that christ is within all of us...then a personal revelation story would begin when you gain your memory (pegasus) of who you really are and that which is inside of you...

Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened,

and behold a white horse;

and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,

and in righteousness he does judge and make war.


...judeging and makeing war against the falseties within ones self from traditions, engraining, and conditioning.... by no means am i saying this is what is...im saying this is where my mind is going with the info...

[observer]

Exactly thunder, which goes further to the conclusion that there are vast areas of our history that goes unaccounted for in the orthodox model. Essentially our historic records go back to 2,000BC, possibly as far as 3,000BC. This leaves 7,000 years of unrecorded history, if one considers Gobekli Tepe, Turkey the starting point of our species, after the melt-down of the last glaciation.

Additionally, all historic records from before the last glaciation are unaccounted-for, due mostly to the Christian-destruction of the Library at Alexandra.

Much of the evidence discovered in this thread suggests the historic record does not concur with the Archeological Record.

*add:
I included the Bill Donahue video simply as a point of interest. I don't subscribe to his theology, but he does have some interesting points.

[Rocky_Shorz]

When man was first modified to become useful slaves, imperfections was added to DNA to shorten active lifespans

In Ben's last report he shared with us we have the knowledge to remove the defects so the average lifespan will reach 120 years old...

Enlightenment of our past is a lightening bolt, frightening at first, but what doesn't kill us makes us stronger...

When the Kingship of the Magi came to me, so did wisdom, knowing what I had never even explored before.

I have shared most right here at Avalon, so others in the future can look back to study my path.

I want to understand more, so keep searching, but every corner leads to another bolt of lightning...

The other side of my family leads to Thor, there is no escape from the lightening show in the sky of my mind..

I told all of you Abaddon was not a fallen angel, he was a dark magician, we were meant to battle after all my gifts were turned on.

From the bloodline of Washington came my visions, from Thor, my strength to bend the power of nature.

When my daughters best friend was kidnapped, raped and murdered by a Jew, it knocked me to my knees, but my gifts turned on to speak with spirits to find answers to missing children cases, I was visited by an Angel, her touch took away all fear.

I was given the sword of light...

Abaddon spotted me and attacked, angels pulled me to another dimension, where my powers were that of a God.

He was an expert swordsman but the sword of light fought for me blocking his attacks, when my blade touched him, he disappears, shrinking back down to normal, on the ground laid the magician, my sword had sucked away his festering dark energy.

I offered him a hand to stand, and he stabbed me with a knife and ran away, diving through the doorway to the dimension of darkness...

Mohammad called for Jesus as my life was fading, he appeared and healed me, then sealed the doorway. He said he couldn't kill him when they met either...

It was the following year that I became King David

I never understood why me, but know now it was meant to be.

I read of an underground seed bank, I started looking closer, suddenly Avalon appeared, so I entered...

The rest is history...

[heyokah]

^^^^

:blushing: :yes4: :shocked: :unsure: :silent:

[thunder24]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eltGRqnbZW8

rocky i just finished watching this video....
what i find interesting is that the time that the book of mormon is suposedly set is 2500b.c to 400a.d


Several earlier statements by Joseph Smith, indicate that events described in the Book of Mormon took place in lands occupied by the United States of America. In an 1833 letter to N.C. Saxton, Smith wrote:

The Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western tribes of Indians; having been found through the ministration of an holy angel, and translated into our own language by the gift and power [of] God, after having been hid up in the earth for the last fourteen hundred years, containing the word of God which was delivered unto them. By it we learn that our western tribes of Indians are descendants from that Joseph that was sold into Egypt, and that the land [of] America is a promised land unto them, and unto it, all the tribes of Israel will come, with as many of the Gentiles as shall comply with the requisitions of the new covenant. But the tribe of Judah will return to old Jerusalem.[28]

now lets take what we have found on the phonecians... this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59768-Scott-Wolter-the-Kensington-Runestone-the-Knights-Templar-and-American-Indians/page2&highlight=scott+wolter has info regarding the phoencian alphabet being a ancient hebrew script... so i looked up phoencian script and egyptian heiroglyphics and I found that phoencian script came from egyptian heiroglyphics...

now what this means is not only did the phoencians come here, the minoans come here, the egpytians come here...but that the americas seem to of been flourishing in the time period the above video says joseph was here....

and it all makes sense. the hyksos kings were the jews...the jews were egyptian...egyptian artifacts ....and the fact in the 1800's joseph smith told us the western indians were in fact egpytian which makes them 'hebrew' since they are descendants of joseph... ( i used the words jew and hebrew to mean the same thing, in case any one wants to argue it...i do not)

wow mayb the Americas is actually the promised land from the old testament... well thats what my thought was




Looking back over the past couple years... here are some threads that may very well tie into this one...like a bow...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342...&highlight=cymry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19509-Arthurian-Dynasty-In-Search-of-the-Prince-of-Wales--Cymry-&highlight=cymry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23528-The-Woodward-Thread&highlight=cymry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26102-Norway-Templars-EDL

for reference

[thunder24]

https://sites.google.com/site/ancientegyptiansinamerica/ancient-egyptians-burrows-cave

https://sites.google.com/site/ancientegyptiansinamerica/_/rsrc/1348509341625/home/b%2520343.jpg


This Artifact was removed from Burrows Cave in Illinois by Russell Burrows.
This is the best preserved artifact for the exact face structue of Joseph who had been named King Zoroaster by King
King Zoroaster of Shemau (now Egypt) wrote he found another place for Egyptians to live because Egypt had become over populated by the time he was 36 years old. This date would be around 1744 BC.
Three broke peices of this same face structure and Crown style were found in the Ruins at Aravis (now Egypt), where he ruled Shemau for 48 years.
The Mormons have records for him including some of his writings. Information for his 12 Trips to a foreign Land was in a Gold Book that was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery were new records for him.
The Artifact was identified as a Artifact for King Zaphnath of Egypt who was Joseph in the Bible.
Moses was raised by Pharaoh named, Tuthmosis III who was of Syrian descent that spoke the middle dialect of the Leššānā language of Syria and that was the language that Moses that spoke also.
Moses wrote in the Leššānā language that he spoke. (The Pharaoh named Joseph, to Zaphenat-Pa'aneah,)
The direction of the Boat on King Zoroaster Crown is coming to the Hio River of Ophir in Atlantis.
The first name for North America was Atlantis. Ophir, was part of Atlantis.
Aztl'an became all of North America is now the United States of America and Canada.
King Zoroaster ruled Egypt from the Temple of Amon at Aravis, Shemau and recorded 12 trips to Ophir that became his second Land of Egypt.

the link above gives lineage and more pictures of artifacts found in the burrows cave in illinois.... I must say that all of this information to me is very "exciting" for those that are interested in history and an alternative view to history with artifacts to boot... also that the grandcanyon artifacts seem to be given more acknowledgement, but that may be my skewed view as im just now looking into all of this....

[observer]

I continue on the argument, Re: Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Canaan?

If one studies the Bible, one is led to believe the Temple of Solomon (the House of the Lord) was built in Jerusalem.

So much of the Old Testament was written after the Babylonian Exile into Persia. It wasn’t until after the Babylonian Captivity that any Jewish Scholars appeared who would even be capable of writing text. Before the Babylonian Exile, the greatest achievement of the Hebrew People was wandering around the Sinai Peninsula and stacking-up rocks!

In Second Chronicles, written after the Babylonian Captivity, we are told:


(2nd Chronicles 36:23):
Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD God of heaven given me; and he hath charged me to build him an house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Who is there among you of all his people? The LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.

Here again, is another classic example of how history has been rewritten through the influence of extra-dimensional sinister forces, i.e. the particular artificial telepathic technology, otherwise known as prophecy.

If one studies the work of Ralph Ellis, one discovers the archeological record indicates the Temple of Solomon was built on the Nile Delta, in Tinnis, Egypt.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4
(listen from the beginning of the video, through to the 26 minute mark)

A thorough study of Ralph Ellis’ work will reveal the Hebrew People where never slaves in Egypt. They were the evicted Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt. The history of the Hyksos Pharaohs can be found in other Ralph Ellis videos I've already presented on this website.

The entire history of the world has been ‘cooked’ through the manipulation of the Science of Archeology, as created by the “Oxford Template”. Our history has been written to validate the Theological Records of the major religions of the planet – all for the designed purpose of controlling, and containing the Mass Consciousness of Humanity, thereby controlling the Common Reality of Humanity.

The archeological evidence indicates there was a global civilization in great antiquity. This is the only possible explanation of how a Pharaoh of Egypt/Savior of Persia, named Joseph/Zoroaster, could have possibly maintained a seat of power at multiple locations on the planet at the same time.

[Rocky_Shorz]

has anyone ever heard of this mentioned before?

why haul it to the Nazi inner earth war base?

December 6, 2015

Russia Begins Transport Of Saudi Arabia’s Mysterious “Ark of Gabriel” To Antarctica

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A mind-boggling report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) states that the sudden launching yesterday by Aerospace Forces (AF) of two satellites are for the protection of the Federation naval research vessel Admiral Vladimisky—which has just departed the Saudi Arabian Port of Jeddah after taking on board a mysterious object described as the “Ark of Gabriel” whose importance is deemed so vital that President Putin has further ordered naval warships guided missile cruiser Varyag, the Sovremennyy-class destroyer Bystry, Boris Chilikin-class fleet oiler Boris Butoma, and the powerful salvage tug Alatau that upon the ending of their current mission in India, they are to rendezvous with the Admiral Vladimisky in the Southern Ocean providing it protection as it sails to Antarctica.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/rnf1.jpg

According to this report, the unprecedented mission being undertaken by the Admiral Vladimisky research vessel began on 6 November when it departed from Kronstadt on the Federation’s first Antarctica expedition in 30 years—and described by the MoD as having such “critical military-religious” significance its cargo includes capsules with Russian soil which will be placed in the areas of military glory and burial sites of Russian sailors at selected ports of call.

To what spurred this astonishing mission, this report explains, was the contacting on 25 September of His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow by representatives of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, regarding a mysterious ancient “device/weapon” discovered under the Masjid al-Haram Mosque (Grand Mosque) during what has turned into a very controversial construction project begun in 2014.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/rnf2.jpg

Photo of construction being done at Islam’s holiest site, the Grand Mosque in Mecca

Gravely raising the concerns of the Grand Mosque emissaries, this report continues, was when this mysterious “device/weapon” was discovered on 12 September by a 15-man tunnel digging crew—and who in their attempting to remove it were instantly killed by a massive “plasma emission” so powerful it ejected from the ground toppling a construction crane killing, at least, another 107 people.

Catastrophically worse, this report notes, was that barely a fortnight after the first attempt to remove this mysterious “device/weapon” was made on 12 September, another attempt was made on 24 September which killed over 4,000 due to another massive “plasma emission” which put tens-of-thousands in panic—but which Saudi officials then blamed on a stampede.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/rnf3.jpg

Aftermath of 24 September “plasma emission” over Grand Mosque

After the catastrophic death toll involved with the Saudi’s second attempt to remove this mysterious “device/weapon”, this report says, His Holiness Patriarch Kirill was then contacted by the Grand Mosque emissaries in regards to one of the oldest Islamic manuscripts possessed by the Russian Orthodox Church that was saved from the Roman Catholic Crusaders in 1204 when they sacked the Church of Holy Wisdom (now known as Hagia Sophia) in Constantinople (present day Istanbul, Turkey) titled “Gabriel’s Instructions To Muhammad”.

Important to note, this report explains, and virtually unknown in the West, were that the Roman Catholic Crusades (and like they mirror today) were not only against the peoples of Islamic faith, but also against those having Russian Orthodox faith too—and why, during these crusades, the Russian Orthodox Church not only protected their own religious libraries from being destroyed, but also those belonging to Muslims.

As to the contents of this ancient Islamic manuscript, “Gabriel’s Instructions To Muhammad”, this report briefly notes, it centers around a group of instructions given to Muhammad by the Angel Gabriel in a cave called Hira, located on the mountain called Jabal an-Nour, near Mecca, wherein this heavenly being entrusted into Muhammad’s care a “box/ark” of “immense power” he was forbidden to use as it belonged to God only and was, instead, to be buried in a shrine at the “place of worship the Angels used before the creation of man” until its future uncovering in the days of Yawm al-Qīyāmah, or Qiyâmah, which means literally “Day of the Resurrection”.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/rnf5.jpg

Though this MoD report mentions virtually nothing about the conversations held between His Holiness Patriarch Kirill and the emissaries of the Grand Mosque in regards to this mysterious “weapon/device”, it does stunningly acknowledge that when President Putin was first informed about this grave situation, on 27 September, he not only immediately ordered the mission to Antarctica for the Admiral Vladimisky research vessel, he, also, further ordered 3 days later, on 30 September, Aerospace Forces to begin bombing Islamic State terrorists and targets in Syria.

As to what this mysterious “weapon/device” actually is we are not allowed to report on due to the strictures we have to abide by in being allowed to publish even the merest glimpses of what happens behind Kremlin walls we are currently permitted to do.

This also pertains to why Russia is helping Saudi Arabia move it to Antarctica—but with both of these nations soon to be at war with the fascist governments of the West, one need only watch the following video [or click HERE] of some of Russia’s top military officers explaining what they know of Antarctica, and its past, to figure out for oneself how critical, indeed, these times really are that we are living in. link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1955.htm)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw

I hadn't even seen the whole report when I posted why to the NAZIs

Is Ben right about Saudi Royalty about to disappear?

Being friends of Bush, the connection was always there, but Putin is helping Bush remove this artifact?

That I didn't see coming...

Edited to Add:

I told all of you when I was solving missing children's cases, one day it became too much, and I gave up, I lay in bed, tears pouring down my cheeks, until a touch on my shoulder, when I looked up it was an angel standing over me. I always thought Gabriel was a male angel, but that is her...

I met Mohammad in several dreams over the years, that is him...

Is this the first image ever published showing Mohammad that didn't start revenge killings?

Does the world need to know it was from Sorcha?

[thunder24]

an earlier theme of this thread was the 33... heard this on the radio the other day...
http://www.ansa.it/english/news/vatican/2015/07/21/33-mln-visitors-to-rome-for-jubilee_26c24a84-f9d7-409b-bad5-a44d3a58eb76.html


As many as 33 million tourists and pilgrims are expected to visit Rome during the Jubilee year that begins in December, Censis said Tuesday.
The research firm said that about 70% of the visitors will come from abroad, spending an estimated eight billion euros.
According to Censis, about 25 million tourists came to Rome for the Jubilee of 2000, and it expects a sizeable increase for this Holy Year.
"The extraordinary flow of tourists will be part of the great wave seeing the growing attractiveness of Rome," said Censis.
It added that includes "a proliferation" of visitors who now see Rome as a day trip rather than a place worth staying overnight or longer.
Pope Francis Francis announced the special Jubilee year to begin December 8 and end November 20, 2016 on the second anniversary of his election last March to underscore a central spiritual theme of his pontificate.
The Jubilee has been dedicated to the theme of Mercy.
http://popefrancisnewsapp.com/

and then yesterday I saw a poll that said trump was leading by 33%...


Overall, Trump has 33% support among likely GOP caucusgoers, followed by Cruz at 20% with Carson at 16%, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 11% and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 4%. The new poll shows Trump up 8 points, Cruz up 9, while Carson has faded by 7 points, compared with the last CNN/ORC poll, conducted in late October and early November.

The poll finds a markedly different landscape among potential GOP caucusgoers than another Iowa poll released Monday by Monmouth University. The difference between the two seems to stem primarily from sampling.

relizing Im starting to see 33 again...i thought i would share....

[Rocky_Shorz]

Dude, look up this page to my message to Putin...

Saudi and Jordan are sending 90,000 troops into Western Iraq to bring it under control...

Iran already has troops and commanders moving into Southern Iraq, holding back the militias from attacking the troops moving into Western Iraq...

Putin has drawn a red line for Turkey and they crossed it...

I am still watching how Iran is going to hand back Kurdistan for control of South Eastern Iraq...

I wasn't joking when I said I already put my hand in the loop and was pulled up to meet the 3 light beings...

when Charles first showed up in 2011, he said it would all be finishing up by the end of 2016...

I'm looking forward to getting back to fishing, this running the world is really stressful... ;-)

[thunder24]

Dude, look up this page to my message to Putin...

Saudi and Jordan are sending 90,000 troops into Western Iraq to bring it under control...

Iran already has troops and commanders moving into Southern Iraq, holding back the militias from attacking the troops moving into Western Iraq...

Putin has drawn a red line for Turkey and they crossed it...

I am still watching how Iran is going to hand back Kurdistan for control of South Eastern Iraq...

I wasn't joking when I said I already put my hand in the loop and was pulled up to meet the 3 light beings...

when Charles first showed up in 2011, he said it would all be finishing up by the end of 2016...

I'm looking forward to getting back to fishing, this running the world is really stressful... ;-)

given the thread I just started...I really really hope you are right my friend

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was referring to this message to Putin after he heard from the Grande Mufta...


Your Grande Mufta told you to take Saudi Arabia and Israel, instantly under your "Christian" control.

All religions are killing themselves because they aren't Christian...

Is that really something so hard to comprehend, for anyone?

If you are Jewish, you are better and should kill all lesser beings...

If you are Islamic, you are chosen and should kill all non believers in your faith...

"That is what Donald Trump thinks most Muslims are, which is sad. I ask him to call me next time he is in town, and I will invite him for a dance with Muslims, they don't drink, which you would think is too much like you, loose lips when you are awake catches important nuggets. I understand that, but I want you to meet with a group of American Muslims... You will meet, and most likely think too kind for what you deserve... but these are real Muslims, don't let the cut throat boneheads acting like Muslim saviors on Foxnews be your only opinion of these wonderful hearts. I know the other side, which is what 99.5% of them feel... Be Kind, you've listened to me before, I've liked you since I sprayed your Princess off Hyannis... :pound: water skiing half a life ago.

If you are Christian, you don't see anything difference in anyone...

If you are good to them, they are good back, and watch your back like it is promised...

I do not know one Muslim, that would rather be under Sharia law than of mine... Living by Sharia Law, is far different than living under it. All Muslims know in themselves to follow the laws, they don't need an oppressive government to prey on them. Grande Ayasolla of Iran, this message isn't just to Putin, it was a message to you. If your State is going to join the Nation, you must accept Christian Laws by Mohammad's promise, you will accept the laws accepted by Christians. I eat a huge Baked ham for Christmas and love my Dog, closest thing to God we will ever meet on this world. there has never been a suicide bomber that owns a dog in the history of man... If a Muslim meets a dog that follows, care for it, and it will care for you, believe me, you will be forgiven. I think it is the cruelest thing ever written into Law.

10 Commandments are all I need, and so far I made it... ;-)

I'm not God, but I can tell you through knowing, he didn't write Sharia law, Man did, God chose a Christian as a messenger, because the other religions are not the laws he wants us to follow. Religion is just a gathering of Believers, there is only one God, hatred is not possible through like beings unless it is created.

A God who was, is, and will be, has no fear and would never divide his children, you are one and part of Me, so live and love, life is too short for looking at differences. Gather in love, healing will follow, no one is bad, but everyone is hurting... Bless all as to approach in the name of the son, or the old man and his wife, as long as you're smiling, who cares.

The bible ended long before Jesus had a brother, named Mohammad
his elder brother Jesus is known by Muslims as one of the most important prophets in their Holy Books... King David another.

Who knew the Church of Sardis was left in the bible, with a typo no one noticed until now... That message was written to the Church of Saudis, which is where Mecca lies, the birthplace of Islam, by one of the best known Prophets John in Revelation. Where did he get his message? How did he know 600 years before the religion was created, it would be needed 2000 years later to bring us all together.

The Seven fold Spirit... "Go back to what you believed in the beginning..."

think of the times you have sought differences and realized how close we really are...

I believe in the promise Mohammad made to Christians...

The Promise of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) to The Christians of St. Catherine

In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine’s Monastery came to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and requested his protection. He responded by granting them the following charter of rights. St. Catherine’s Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai in modern-day Egypt and is the world’s oldest monastery. It possesses a huge collection of Christian manuscripts, second only to the Vatican, and is a world heritage site. It also boasts the oldest collection of Christian icons. It is a treasure house of Christian history that has remained safe for 1,400 years under Muslim protection.

The Eternal Promise:

“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

The promise is eternal and universal. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) ordering Muslims to obey it until the Day of Judgment. The charter imposes no conditions on Christians for enjoying its privileges. It is enough that they are Christians. They are not required to alter their beliefs, they do not have to make any payments and they do not have any obligations. This is a charter of rights without any duties.

The document is not a modern human rights treaty but, even though it was penned in 628 AD, it clearly protects the right to property, freedom of religion, freedom of work, and security of the person. Quote from Islamic Supreme Council Website (http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/the-promise-of-prophet-muhammad-peace-be-upon-him-to-the-christians-of-st-catherine/)

everything really is much Simpler than it seems...

news might have you thinking the sky is going to burn soon, but they're still blue on my side of the world...

Think about it, the top intelligence in the world with access to any records can figure out a guy shooting the breeze and watching world events in a forum, could be exactly what he has been joshing about. The 32 Illuminati have bowed, they have no control of events surrounding us, they are no longer fighting our move towards change.

our ship is in dangerous waters, but I've held a helm before when seas are worse...

fasten up, we're almost to the rapids...


the only requirement of a Muslin joining my nation is they read and agree to follow this promise...

isis, you have killed many innocent Muslims?

who are you fighting for and why?

before you pull that chord to blow your ass to heaven... they lied, do not Kill means just that...

you might be so desperate, Hell might be an improvement, but don't believe the brochures.

It's WAAaayyy worse...

you'll see, pull the chord...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Can I share a secret with all of you...

Heck with fire and brimstone, this is really how Bible messages are meant to be shared...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgVZHMISva4

while watching this I chuckled, there was a time I said, "why me? all I have is a computer"

"with it you can speak to the world..."

uh, ok..

[Rocky_Shorz]

I asked for a sign I'm doing OK, went to the beach, monstrous 12 foot waves hammering the pier... Winds howling..

Tonight I looked up in the sky and saw a few shooting stars...

I'm still waiting for a sign, how about one of those burning bushes... ;-)

[heretogrow]

Love to you Rocky! Keep on keeping up the good fight! You are appreciated in so many ways!

Much Love,
Julia

[Rocky_Shorz]

this confirmation means far more than Sorcha's

36 Islamic Nations have joined to fight terrorism...

Women in Saudi Arabia, can not only vote, but run for office, driving is coming...

I have said many times, Christians can not help Muslims from the quagmire, it will take the 99.5% of Muslims who believe in Mohammad's promise to Christians...

CNN asked the question of whether Jews should be banned from entry into America for all the Terrorist acts they have committed against us... Say What?

are they losing control of the media too?

I'm not happy Rothschilds are dodging the bullet, pointing the blame on Israel...

you may fool the Dragons, but I know the truth...

link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87546-Fulford-12-15-2015-Canadians-ready-to-arrest-Fed-Gangsters&p=1029671#post1029671)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Putin Orders Military To Protect Kurds “At All Costs” As “War Of The Century” Nears

An ominous report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) states that President Putin has issued orders authorizing Federation military and intelligence forces to protect the Kurdish peoples of Turkey-Iraq-Syria against “all threats” and “at all costs” as these besieged peoples living in the Levant War Zone are now under “existential threat” of extermination by Turkey—and which is an action many in the West are warning may trigger the “war of the century”.

According to this report, President Putin legally issued this order citing as his authority to do so Article 87 of the Constitution that gives him the title and power of being Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and by his further noting that this order “fully complies” with the “use of force” resolution unanimously passed by the Duma (Russian Parliament) this past September authorizing military-intelligence war actions against the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/Daesh).

With Turkey now being named as a “belligerent hostile threat” to the Federation in this conflict, this report further explains, President Putin in issuing his order also cited the Turkish governments material and financial support of Islamic State terrorists as evidenced by the MoD discovering this week 12,000 oil tankers and trucks on the Turkey-Iraq border carrying stolen petroleum wealth legally owned by Iraq and Syria.

And with Russian energy giant Gazprom Neft planning to drill its first exploratory oil well in Iraq Kurdistan next year, this report says, President Putin’s order notes that Turkey’s stealing of Iraqi and Syrian oil with the assistance of Islamic State terrorists is, in fact, the same thing as stealing from the Federation.

Gravely concerning President Putin too, this report notes, is that in Turkey’s attempt to cover up their crimes in supporting these Islamic State terrorists, they have imitated a brutal genocidal attack upon their own Kurdish peoples that has caused over 200,000 of these defenseless minority citizens to flee their homes while Turkish military forces rampage throughout this region—and which has led one Western official in Turkey to warn “Things are reaching a critical point, and it’s not clear where things are heading.”

Siding with Turkey in committing this mass genocide against the Kurdish peoples though, this report continues, is the Obama regime whose State Department spokesman, John Kirby, this past week stated “while we understand Turkey’s needs to take security measures, it should also take all feasible precautions to protect civilians and to act consistently with its legal obligations”, but failed to order their NATO ally to stop their wanton killing and destruction.

Unlike the Obama regime though, who has sided with their Islamic State terrorist supporting NATO ally Turkey against the Kurdish peoples, this report says, President Putin was more persuaded by Turkey's pro-Kurdish party leader Selahattin Demirtas, who in his meeting this past week with Foreign Minister Lavrov, revealed all of Turkey’s “dark/evil” secrets—and which immediate afterwards, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutolgu accused Demirtas of having committed treason.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/pgt3.jpg

Also critical to note about President Putin’s war order, this report says, is that prior to his issuing it he presented to the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) members Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates a “grave warning” that should any of them continue in their current war actions supporting either Turkey or the Islamic State they would face immediate Federation retribution.

President Putin’s warning was immediately replied to by the GCC just hours ago with their spokesman, Qatar’s Foreign Minister Khaled bin Mohammad Al Attiyah, stating: “We are currently talking about exchanging information on movement of people and money. The topic of establishing armed forces in the framework of the Saudi-led coalition has not been discussed as of now. We are trying to concentrate our efforts on fighting against extremist ideology and our Islamic coalition is not working in the sphere of military actions of the US-led coalition.”

And though not mentioned in this MoD report, if Moscow does support these Kurdish forces in retaliation against these Turkish “backstabbers”, Turkey's domestic political problems will come to a new level and submerge that country into full chaos, especially if President Putin begins supplying Kurd forces with the heavy weapons they’ve requested... link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1968.htm)

“If you invite a bear to dance, it's not you who decides when the dance is over. It's the bear.”

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/pgt5.jpg


this caught my eye...

"Russian Federation, and by his further noting that this order “fully complies” with the “use of force” resolution unanimously passed by the Duma (Russian Parliament) this past September authorizing military-intelligence war actions against the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/Daesh).

With Turkey now being named as a “belligerent hostile threat” to the Federation in this conflict, this report further explains, President Putin in issuing his order also cited the Turkish government"


unanimously or anonymously?

Turkish banks & government sites under ‘intense’ attacks on Christmas holidays

https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.12/original/567dd492c46188825b8b45b8.jpg

Turkey is suffering from a wave of cyber-attacks on financial and government websites which intensified over Christmas, reportedly resulting in the temporary disruption of credit card transactions.

A video released this week and attributed to Anonymous vowed retribution for Ankara’s alleged ties with ISIS.

The attacks on Turkish servers have been persistent in recent weeks, but on Christmas day Turkish banks suffered a website outage and reportedly saw sporadic disruption to credit card transactions. Isbank, Garanti and Ziraat Bank were among the targets, local media reported.

“It is hard to determine where these attacks are coming from, with detailed work it will be understood whether these attacks are carried out by hackers or by certain groups” said the Minister of Communications Binali Yildrim.

The DDoS attacks on Turkey’s ".tr" domain, Yildrim said were “serious” as they include domains of ministries, banks, and the military. The ministry asked Ankara’s Middle East Technical University (ODTU), which operates the ".tr" domain to step up security measures. ODTU’s analysis said that the attacks are coming from “organized sources” outside Turkey.

Turkish Telecom, in a statement to Hurriyet daily, said that they are now on “24/7 defense” as they acknowledged facing “thousands of attacks.” Most Turkish institutions use Turk Telekom as their service provider.

“The attacks are serious,” a spokesman for internet provider Turk Telekom, Onur Oz, told Reuters. “But the target is not Turk Telekom. Instead, banks and public institutions are under heavy attack.”

The banking sector is one of the fastest growing areas of online services in Turkey and equates roughly to 1.5-2 billion transactions daily, according to Hurriyet. More than 85 percent of daily banking transactions in Turkey are carried out on digital platforms.

“These attacks began two weeks ago but have intensified over the past two days,” said Burak Atakani, a network specialist from Istanbul Technical University.

Some Turkish media outlets have speculated that the cyber-attacks might have been launched by Russia in retaliation to the downing of a Russian bomber by a Turkish fighter jet late in November over Syrian airspace... link (https://www.rt.com/news/327119-turkey-banks-cyber-attacks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS&utm_source=Anonymous+News&utm_medium=twitter)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgUxt7fLEyg

Hey Putin, is that you?

[thunder24]

rocky and anyone else who can answer me... doesn't massive amounts of petroleum cause cancers and other health problems...?

if they keep blowing up convoys and such arn't they causing massive spills of petroleum...sure some of it burns up like when the oil fields were set ablaze during the iraq war of the ninties...but it seems that much of the land will be poluted... just a thought i had... Im not saying there needs to be more troops to just take over tankers...but it seems this is a mess that can't' be "cleaned up" no matter what happens....

sure the earth can regenerate itself...but look at the desert from the gobi west... seems like someone wants this whole swath of area to remain a desert...just thoughts and questions....

[Rocky_Shorz]

In Iraq, the army was storming Ramadi, suddenly it was put on pause while US Choppers flew in and removed the Isis commanders, they are the heads of the Baath party for West Iraq, sounds like a new autonomous region is being created for the Sunni...

The 12000 semi trucks are all Kurds in Iraq, Putin will no longer be bombing those, they will just keep it shut down in Syria.

Kurds crossed Erdogan's red line of the Euphrates and are waiting for his response...

[Rocky_Shorz]

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Northern Kurdistan (Turkey) declared an independent state today, Russia immediately recognized it and is moving in massive numbers of troops to protect them from Turkey's insane leaders...

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Putin-special-forces-650x350.jpg

nothing is being mentioned about it in any media outlets, I will pass on more info as I find it.

Large explosions in Turkey's Istanbul airport and seaports today.

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Chinese troops are on the ground in Syria...

[ThePythonicCow]

Northern Kurdistan (Turkey) declared an independent state today, Russia immediately recognized it and is moving in massive numbers of troops to protect them from Turkey's insane leaders...
I cannot find any other mention of this whatsoever ... where did you find this announced ? :)

[norman]

One person dead after mysterious explosion at Istanbul airport



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/23/istanbul-sabiha-gokcen-airport-explosion-kills-cleaner

[thunder24]

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/turkey/24122015


Turkey
Did Turkey just indicate it tolerates an independent Kurdistan?
By Namo Abdulla 24/12/2015

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Earlier this month, when Iraqi Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani entered a meeting room with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davtoglu in Ankara, he found something that he had never seen in any of his previous trips to Turkey: a Kurdistan flag.

Given the history of Kurdish-Turkish relations, that seems like a big deal. Turkey has for decades denied the very existence of Kurdistan and even the Kurdish people as a separate ethnic group. Ultra-nationalist Turks often referred to Kurds as "mountain Turks."

Many people are convinced that Turkey's recognition of the Kurdistan flag represents a big improvement in Kurd-Turk ties. It's a sign, they say, that Turkey might actually be ready to tolerate the establishment of an independent Kurdish state in northern Iraq.

Others, however, remain doubtful that any significant shift has occurred in the Turkish standpoint vis-a-vis the political ambitions of more than 30 million Kurds. As Turkey talks of friendship with Iraqi Kurds, it continues to bomb its own Kurds, namely the autonomy-seeking PKK rebels, whom Ankara regards as terrorists.

this is not exactly what rocky shared but is pointing in that direction...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Northern Kurdistan (Turkey) declared an independent state today, Russia immediately recognized it and is moving in massive numbers of troops to protect them from Turkey's insane leaders...
I cannot find any other mention of this whatsoever ... where did you find this announced ? :)

When it comes to Kurdistan, my sources know before the CIA... ;-)

Last night Erdogan shut water flow through a damn and water has risen and is starting to flood Kurdish villages... Sick baastard... Nothing a little explosives can't fix...

The King of Saudi Arabia just flew into Erdoganistan to break the news to the Dictator...

Accepting a new reality will be tough for some..

[AuCo]

Interesting find, Rocky. Please do keep us posted. You think Putin is being proactive? After all, Kurdistan encompasses much of Syria as well - the very land perceived to be under his very own protection.

[Rocky_Shorz]

oops I meant to put these over in the Fulford thread...

I am having 111 and 1111 come up continuously another false flag is in the works...

Keep Alert...

Sorcha is pointing at Turkey...

I just looked up the quake details, I looked at the clock at 11:11 last night, the exact time that the quake hit not far from Erdogan's Palace...

"2 km NE of Sarıcakaya, Turkey / pop: 10,571 / local time: 11:11" PDT

Turkish Leader Declares Himself Ruler Of Islamic World, Warns World War III Will Soon Begin

In what can only be described as one of the most frightening and chilling Ministry of Defense (MoD) reports we’ve ever been permitted (in part) to review, Russian military-intelligence analysts are warning today that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is traveling to Saudi Arabia to declare himself before that regime as the “leader” of the entire Islamic world and has, also, stated his intention of igniting World War III between NATO and Russia so that these “apostate powers” will destroy themselves thus enabling Muslims, under his “leadership”, to establish a global caliphate.

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According to this report, President Erdogan is asserting his right to “leadership” over the entire Islamic world based upon a fatwa (Islamic legal/religious ruling) issued this past week by his main “spiritual/religious/legal” teacher Hayrettin Karaman—who, in essence, announces in his Presidential System fatwa that Erdogan’s plan to impose on Turkey an entirely new constitution is justified as it will give to Erdogan the supreme power he needs to bypass democratic laws, become an emir and establish his caliphate.

With many Muslims in the world already calling Erdogan a “god”, this report continues, it is, also, critical to remember that his “main teacher” Hayrettin Karaman, who issued this fatwa, had previously, in 2009, been caught on a secret recording issuing another fatwa directly to Erdogan authorizing Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT) to assassinate Turkish politician Muhsin Yazicioglu—and which in giving his reason to Erdogan as to why he was allowing this murder simply stated “slaughter is obligatory”.

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Interesting to note too, this report says, is that the West is now becoming gravely worried about Erdogan too, and as evidenced by the Wall Street Journal yesterday warning that Turkey has gone from being viewed by Western government officials, media and academics as an influential, moderating force for regional stability and economic growth, to a tacit supporter, if not outright sponsor, of international terrorism and is now viewed as a dangerous ally that risks plunging NATO into an unwanted conflict with Russia.

Speaking last year of the porous Turkey-Syria border too, this report further notes, US Vice President Joseph Biden let slip, in a moment of rare candor, that the biggest problem America was facing in confronting Islamic State terrorists was its own NATO ally Turkey—a true admission he was forced by President Obama to apologize for.

And even though the Obama regime keeps turning its face to hide from itself the crimes of Erdogan, this report warns, it may no longer be able to do so after US military supported Syrian Democratic Forces (a rebel alliance that includes the powerful YPG Kurdish militia comprising women troops and Arab rebel groups) this past weekend wrested control of the strategic Tishreen Dam from Islamic State terrorists on the Euphrates River—an action of victory against these terrorists that, nevertheless, prompted Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu a few hours ago to issue a warning to the Obama regime stating that “Turkey is closely following the situation in northern Syria's Tishrin area, and will not let any hostile groups cross west of Euphrates.”

Turkey has long opposed advances by the American backed Syrian Kurdish forces, this report explains, for fear this will lead to the creation of a Kurdish state on its border which in turn might encourage its own Kurdish minority, and which Erdogan views as the main threat to Turkey, not the Islamic State.

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Erdogan’s hatred of Syria too, this report continues, is due to their leader Assad being a “symbolic target” because he is secular, Alawite and tolerant of Christians and other groups — and is in the way of Erdogan's imperial vision (Syria was a part of the Ottoman Empire).

Erdogan's imperial vision however, this report notes, has clashed with (Orthodox Christian) Russia's conservative reflexes—which President Putin understands the implications of the disruption of the regional balance entailed in Erdogan's megalomaniac vision.

To what the Obama regime truly understands, though, this report questions, is “beyond understanding” in any rational terms as at the same Turkish airfield that US Air Force planes take off daily into Syria to help the Kurds fight Islamic State terrorists, Turkish Air Force planes take off to bomb the same Kurds the US is helping too—and, absolutely astonishingly, the Obama regimes State Department, just yesterday, proclaimed as one of its “2015 Wins” was its “bringing peace to Syria”.

And even though Erdogan in his initial attempt to start World War III in “peaceful Syria” when he deliberately ordered his NATO aligned military forces to shoot down a defenseless Russian bomber over that nation, this report concludes, how the “totally insane” Obama regime will react to the next deliberate provocation by Erdogan is anyone’s guess—but which Russia will, undoubtedly, be forced to respond to this time with massive military force. link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1971.htm)

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When I first read that report yesterday, I was pissed...

15 minutes later, a quake hit close to Erdogan's Palace...

Erdogan isn't worthy of being a doormat for the Kurds to wipe their muddy boots on...

Messenger my arse...

for those of you who don't think Sorch is right on this report, look at what was behind Erdogan in his December Speech...

http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20160101&t=2&i=1106279408&w=644&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEC000XX

TURK - IS as in Islamic State...

the Dude has lost his mind...

[Rocky_Shorz]

but it continues...

Swiss Military Chief Orders Nation To Arm Itself Over Global War Fears

The Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reporting today that Switzerland’s Chief of the Armed Forces, Lieutenant General André Blattmann, has requested that his government immediately approve an order for his nation to re-arm itself due to his fears of “hybrid wars” threatening the peace of the world and the growing global economic crisis—and that he foresees as causing massive unrest upon the European continent threatening the basis of Swiss prosperity that he warns “has once again been called into question”.

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Switzerland’s Chief of the Armed Forces, Lieutenant General André Blattmann

The “hybrid wars” feared by General Blattmann that are leading to World War III, this report notes, are being “instigated/directed” by Turkey’s “madman/insane” President Recep Tayyip Erdogan—who this week has traveled to Saudi Arabia to declare himself as the leader of the entire Islamic world (and whose followers are now calling him a “god”) in his bid to ignite a global conflict between Russia and the West—after which he, Erdogan, will be able to establish his caliphate thus resurrecting the Ottoman Empire.

Curiously echoing General Blattmann’s fears, this report continues, is the elite American news organization Politico, who this morning published an article titled “On the brink, with Erdogan” openly questioning the Obama regime if it was going to allow Turkey’s “madman” to push US/NATO into war with Russia.

Likewise, this report notes, the elite American news organization CounterPunch has begun questioning the Obama regime as to why it is even supporting Turkey in the first place by stating:

“Many prefer to view Erdogan’s actions as whimsical or as contrary to the wishes of the United States or NATO. According to this narrative, Erdogan is a madman but he is acting on his own. This is a mistake. Let one who claims so answer candidly the following questions:

Did the United States or NATO denounce the toppling of the Russian Jet? -No. On the contrary. It was claimed Turkey has the right to “defend itself.”

Did the United States or NATO demand an immediate withdrawal of Turkish forces from northern Iraq following the illegal invasion on December 4? Did it denounce it at once? –No. Only two weeks later did the US ask Turkey to withdraw its forces from Iraq. There was no condemnation.

Did the United States or NATO hold Erdogan accountable for his trading with and support for ISIS? –No. In fact, NATO-Turkish cooperation and EU-Turkish collaboration has only intensified.

Did the United States condemn Erdogan for his bloody campaign against the Kurds in Turkey? –No.”

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Answering both Politico and CouterPunch’s in their questioning of the Obama regimes support of Erdogan, this report says, is the former US President Ronald Regan administration official Paul Craig Roberts—who in his article this week titled “Why World War III Is On The Horizon” states that the Obama regime (as well as past ones) labels as a “hostile power” any country sufficiently strong enough to have a foreign policy independent from Washington’s—and of which he gravely warns:

“The Russian government has learned that Washington does not respect Washington’s own laws, much less international law, and that Washington cannot be trusted to keep any agreement.

This lack of trust, together with the aggression toward Russia spewing from Washington and the presstitute media and echoing in the idiotic European capitals, has established the ground for nuclear war.

As NATO (essentially the US) has no prospect of defeating Russia in conventional war, much less defeating an alliance of Russia and China, war will be nuclear.”

With the Obama regime backed Erdogan now strengthening his alliance with Saudi Arabia against Russia too, this report continues, the sheer insanity of these adversaries to the Federation appear to know no decent bounds either—and as exampled by Saudi Arabia’s slamming of Russia for this past weeks airstrike killing of the feared war criminal Syrian terrorist leader Zahran Alloush—who in 2013, while being openly supported by the Obama regime, vowed to slaughter all Christians, Jews, Shiite Muslims, everyone in fact, by openly stating:

“The Mujahedeen of Shaam will cleanse Shaam of the Filth of Rafidis (rejecters who believe in anything other than Sunni Islam) and Rafidism; they will cleanse it for ever in sha Allah, till they will cleanse the land of Shaam of the filth of the Majoos (Fireworshippers) who fought the Religion of Allah the Almighty.

The Shia are still despicable and pitiful though history.

And I give you the news, oh Filthy Rafidis: Just as Banu Umayya crushed your heads in the Past, the people of Ghouta and Shaam will crush them soon,

They will make you taste a painful torment in this world, before Allah makes you taste it in the Hereafter, Oh you unclean Rafidis! You will collide into what you've never expected of Power from the Mujahedeen of Islam”.

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As to General Blattmann’s fears of global economic chaos spreading civil unrest throughout Europe too, this report further notes, it may be nearer than anyone cares to openly admit—especially when viewed in the light that by Saudi Arabia’s flooding the world with cheap oil in order to destroy the oil industries in both Russia and the United States (two of its main competitors), it has not only created for itself a staggering $135 billion deficit, it is, also, bringing its own economy to near collapse.

Likewise, this report concludes, with Saudi Arabia’s actions, combined with Western sanctions, driving the ruble to new lows, the oil and natural gas dependent Russian economy itself is now cracking under the strain leading one top Kremlin official to warn that the government has only a few months before worsening economic conditions begin to fuel social unrest.

But before that happens, and as Swiss General Blattmann well knows, President Putin will destroy both Saudi Arabia and Turkey, no matter what the cost, before he allows that to happen—one can only hope that President Obama knows this fact too, or at least can read a history book. link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1972.htm)

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[Rocky_Shorz]

today's they are seeing if I am ready to rock Turkey over the headlines

Obama Looks On In Silence As Turkey Begins Mass Genocide Of Kurds

An appalling new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today is warning that the Obama regime backed Republic of Turkey is nearing an outbreak of total civil war after it has begun what can only be described as a mass genocide of its Kurdish population similar to the 1937-1938 Dersim Massacre that killed up to 80,000 of these peoples—and that was so “admired” by Nazi German leader Adolf Hitler, he not only ordered his fascist government to sign a non-aggression pact with Turkey, he, also, used this massacre as his favorite “model” to solve what he called Germany’s “Jewish question”.

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While Hitler in his “Jewish question”, this report explains, characterized the effect of a Jewish presence in Germany as a “race-tuberculosis of the peoples”, the Turkish government, likewise, was at the same time laughingly stating “Armenians for lunch, Kurds for supper”—a reference not only to the Dersim Massacre, but to the Armenian Genocide of 1915, which killed 1.5 million, as both of these races of human beings were considered by Turkey, like Nazi Germany did the Jews, as “vermin”.

With Turkey’s Kurdish population being the largest ethnic minority in that country numbering between 14-22.5 million [Note: Turkey forbids an exact census of these people.], this report continues, Turkey considers them a threat—even to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan vowing recently that he will not allow this Kurdish “threat” to exist either inside or outside his country and stating about them: “You will be annihilated in those houses, those buildings, those ditches which you have dug.”

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Backing up this vow, this report notes, Erdogan has not only begun a bombing campaign against the US-backed Kurdish peoples in Syria and Iraq heroically fighting, and dying, against Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/Daesh) terrorist barbarians, he has begun ruthlessly exterminating the Kurdish peoples in his own nation too.

Two of the worst Kurdish cities in Turkey under genocidal seize by Erdogan’s forces, this report grimly states, are Cizre and Silopi whose nearly 200,000 inhabitants are nearing death due to the 3 month long cutoff of all electricity, phone service, food and water while at the same they under constant bombardment—a grave situation that has led to Cemil Bayik, co-chair of the Union of Kurdish Communities' (KCK) executive council, to warn: “We are heading to the establishment of a revolutionary resistance front with the participation of organizations that will come from inside and outside of Turkey.”

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With the KCK and other Kurdish groups, including the much feared Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) within Turkey having ended their cease-fire with Erdogan’s forces once this genocidal action against them began, this report further notes, many experts are now expecting Turkey to be fully engulfed in civil war soon—including noted Turkish journalist and former military officer Metin Gurcan who has warned: “The PKK (and its allies) have only one ace to play to break the siege: It must transfer the clashes to western Turkey to ease the pressure it's under in the southeast.”

Not just from journalist Gurcan are warnings’ coming either, this report continues, but from the Turkish government itself too which is, likewise, stating that “were one step away from civil war”.

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And as Turkey has now blocked their border with Iraq stranding up to 10,000 Kurdish peoples from returning to their besieged homes and families [Note: thousands of Turkish Kurds work in Iraqi Kurdistan oil fields], MoD experts in this report warn, Iraq’s new threat of war against Turkey, unless it removes its troops that illegally invaded, is bringing this already dire and grave situation to the boiling point—especially with this coming after the bombshell revelations last week of the Obama regimes support of the Islamic State and Turkey’s arrest of two of its top generals who stopped a CIA weapons shipment to Islamic State terrorists from crossing into Syria from Turkey.

In confronting the Turkish governments genocide of the Kurdish peoples that will soon engulf that entire NATO nation in civil war, this report concludes, the Islamic State supporting Obama regime still insists that Turkey is their “strong ally”—but to which President Putin, who has long tired of the lies from both Obama and Erdogan, has no illusions about and has thrown Russia’s considerable weight onto the side of these starving and oppressed peoples—after all, with Obama having broken his promise for 7 straight years to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide committed by Turkey, how much defense will he exert to keep the same thing from happening now to the Kurds? link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1973.htm)

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this is a Turkish tank in one of the Kurdish villages, looks like Putin's weapon's have arrived...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNN_o_hnPjg

[thunder24]

http://ufosthetruthisoutthere.weebly.com/grand-canyon-underground-citadel---evidence-of-giants-and-underground-cities-in-america.html

Grand Canyon Underground Citadel - Evidence of Giants and Underground Cities in America.​​

The most famous report - about giants and underground cities - appeared in the April 5, 1909 edition of The Arizona Gazette, entitled “Explorations in Grand Canyon.” Explorer G.E. Kinkaid discovered a huge underground “citadel” while rafting on the Colorado River.

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