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Rocky_Shorz

9th January 2011, 21:23

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Surrender_of_Lord_Cornwallis.jpg/800px-Surrender_of_Lord_Cornwallis.jpg

Surrender of Lord Cornwallis was also commissioned in 1817 but placed in 1820. It depicts the final surrender of the British after the Battle of Yorktown in 1781, in which a combined American-French force led by George Washington, the Marquis de Lafayette, and Comte de Rochambeau over British troops under Lord Cornwallis. The surrender led to the cessation of major Revolutionary War hostilities and British recognition of American independence in the 1783 Treaty of Paris.

The scene here depicts the same event as the "Surrender of Cornwallis" panel of the "Frieze of American History." American General Benjamin Lincoln is portrayed at the center of the painting riding a white horse, with French officers on the left and Americans on the right, led by Washington on the brown horse. The British were represented by officers, but Lord Cornwallis himself was not present and was represented instead by Charles O'Hara. As noted above, Washington declined O'Hara's sword because according to the custom of the time it would only be proper from Washington to receive the sword from Cornwallis himself; Major Lincoln accepted the sword in Washington's place. Trumbull was proud of the fact that he had painted portraits of the French officers while in France and included a small self-portrait of himself under the American flag on the right side of the painting.[6]

story link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_rotunda#Frieze_of_American_History)

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/General_George_Washington_Resigning_his_Commission.jpg/800px-General_George_Washington_Resigning_his_Commission.jpg

General George Washington Resigning his Commission was commissioned in 1817 and placed in 1824. It depicts George Washington addressing Congress to resign his commission as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army, on December 23, 1783.

The U.S. Congress, at the time, was meeting at the Maryland State House in Annapolis. This celebrated incident established a strong tradition of civilian control of the military in the United States and the rejection of military dictatorship in favor of liberal democracy.

Washington is depicted along with two aides-de-camp, as he addresses the president of the Congress. Also shown in the painting are Thomas Mifflin, Elbridge Gerry, and three future U.S. presidents: Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, and James Madison. His wife, Martha Washington, and her three grandchildren, are shown watching from the gallery section (balcony area at right), although they were not in fact present at Washington's resignation.[7]

Rocky_Shorz

9th January 2011, 21:32

http://nationalheritagemuseum.typepad.com/.a/6a00e550caa66d8834011570f7534c970c-250wi

At the end of August 1895, the city of Boston greeted 20,000 Masonic Knights Templar from around the country. These men, and their wives, gathered in the city for their Triennial Conclave (see our previous post on this event).

While the parade on August 27 must have been quite a sight, it was not only the Knights Templar members that dressed for the event. As part of the celebration, the Grand Commandery of Massachusetts and Rhode Island decorated the exterior of the Boston Masonic building with a spectacular display of bunting and electric lights.

This photograph shows just how conspicuous the building was, with the large central Templar cross, Masonic keystone and square and compasses symbols. Across the top of the building, the words “fraternity,” “fidelity,” and “charity” are spelled out in lights. At night, when the lights were turned on, the building glowed for all to see.

Sadly, less than two weeks after the Conclave celebrations concluded, the Boston Masonic building caught fire and had to be torn down...

story link (http://nationalheritagemuseum.typepad.com/library_and_archives/knights-templar/)

Rocky_Shorz

9th January 2011, 21:36

Early History

While little has been written on the dress of the early Templars, prior to Thomas Smith Webb's "Monitor" of 1797, there has been one suggestion has to the origin of the Templar Apron. In early references to the history of Templary in Great Britain, the following significant reference is made:

All Templar encampments were qualified to give the degrees of the "Rose Croix" and the "Kadosh" which had existed in England as Templar degrees years before the establishment of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. In the original form of the Templar Ceremonies, the "Rose Croix de Herodom (sic)" was one step above the Templar installation, followed by the "Kadosh"...1

The significant herein is the fact that Templary was related under British Masonry to the Rose Croix and Kadosh degrees. The Rose Croix apron is described as follows:

White lined in Black and outlined in Red. On the white side depicting a pelican feeding her young. On the black side a red Latin cross. (Northern Masonic Jurisdiction)
Templar History... (http://www.blaisdell.com/papers/)

Marie

9th January 2011, 22:38

Rocky_Shorz

9th January 2011, 22:46

You've joined a great group of people that all believe the same...

strength comes from knowing you are right, we are the ones that need to save this plant, we have come into our powers each of us with different gifts but all intermingled form a powerful force that will save our planet...

Icecold

9th January 2011, 22:51

HI Marie, I'm new here as well. Welcome to you. I'm of the mind that there can never really be a negative outcome. Whatever outcome will unfold from all of this will be the right outcome. Vision and desire count for a lot. The universe is a very large diverse home and if there is a plan inspired and controlled by the pervading consciousness, then it has to be the right plan. I have faith in the idea that the universal consciousness knows exactly what it is doing.

Anchor

9th January 2011, 23:03

. I am learning a great deal by roaming this Forum but have difficulty accepting the idea of negative outcome on a grand scale. To me, there is such a strong sense of loving presence that is much more powerful than anything fear-based. I hope that is right....

You are so right its not even funny :)

Rocky_Shorz

9th January 2011, 23:04

the 33 are Kadosh, successors of the original order...

here is the 32nd Scottish Rite reading and it makes it very clear at the beginning that they had no affiliation with the original order...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26124728/Readings-Xxxii-Scottish-Rite

Marie

9th January 2011, 23:10

Thank you Rocky_Shores and thank you Icecold for the welcome.... and welcome to you! What you are expressing feels right to me and I also have that faith. It is nice to be among such aware and positive people!

Rocky_Shorz

9th January 2011, 23:12

it is PDF or I would copy a few parts over...

there is no mountain of Croix in Scotland, this is said to reflect a hidden mystery of the Templars...

Lac La Croix... Lake in the Boundary waters of Minnesota - Canada...

also one of the possible routes given for the Templar expedition with the Vikings to Kensington late 1300s was coming down through Canada...

Pamela

10th January 2011, 00:11

they are ready to hand back the responsibility of running this world, so what would you ask them to change before leaving?

That is a HUGE question...
1.) Get rid of the government making decisions for the "people" without our acknowledgement.
2.) Free energy is available, let it be known.
3.) No lies regarding our human heritage.
4.) Educate our children, stop "dumbicating".
5.) Change the concept of thinking that those who have money have power; to, those that have love have power.
6.) Instill that our planet is a living and breathing entity and it is our responsibility to protect her, show respect, and learn to honor all that she gives.

vericocha

10th January 2011, 00:25

Hi John, I remember the Anchor from the old days!

PHARAOH

10th January 2011, 13:27

Don't let the door hit your asses on the way out.

P.S. Take "Charles" with you all and don't come back.

Bill Ryan

10th January 2011, 13:39

Don't let the door hit your asses on the way out.

P.S. Take "Charles" with you all and don't come back.

Dear Friend -

A personal request: find 50 mins to watch or listen to the video commentary I made yesterday (posted about 9 hours ago) on the RULERS OF THE WORLD interview. You may not have caught up with this yet.

In the second half, I speak to concerns such as those you clearly have. Let me know what you think and feel.

Audio is available here if you're in your car or walking the dog:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_Charles_interview_comment ary_9_January_2011.mp3

The video is here (http://projectavalon.net/../Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_Charles_interview_comment ary_9_January_2011.mp4) or on YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=t2KDtqIP7kk).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KDtqIP7kk

000

10th January 2011, 16:01

I had a bit of a vision before falling asleep last night. I envisioned two intersecting triangles (or pyramids), one black and one white (I think one can gather what I am getting at with this imagery: the triality of existence, the dark, the light and that which they are both birthed. Heads, tails and the coin that both could not exist without). I thought of them not as 'evil' or 'good' but as two siblings who had forgotten each other and in their grief of forgetting each other, they saw each other as enemies rather than the siblings they really were. When they met each other after such a long period of time, at first they did not recognize each other, but through dialogue they began to remember that they were of the same family and were really no different from each other, though their actions were equal and opposing to each other before they met.

Because of the 'chess' analogy that has been used recently I also envisioned a chess board as it would be, black pieces on one side, white on the other, on a black and white checkered board. I then envisioned the pieces on either side becoming transparent, clear, like glass or crystal, and the board as well. Another way to look at this is if you were to take an infrared photograph of the chess board and the pieces on it. They would appear uniform. Despite their optical appearances, they radiate energy the same as each other.

No matter what transpires out of the recent dialogue we've been taking part in, we are all from the exact same source. Sometimes families don't get along so well but it is almost always out of misunderstanding each other, and what I see is a grand misunderstanding (a very intricate and complicated one) attempting to resolve itself. Dialogue, communication, is the way of resolving these things. Even if this is an 'experiment', it doesn't matter, we're still of the same infinite family. Some siblings are much younger and some are much older, but we share the same aetheric blood so to speak.

Another vision I had was that of parents aiding their child who has been injured. As above, so below, as without, so within. A good, balanced, parent, I feel, acts in resonance with the infinite nature of the universe. Sometimes it is compassionate to let one's child make a mistake and to learn from it and sometimes it is compassionate for one to simply give one's child an embrace when they need it, perhaps after they have learned where they made their mistake. In this analogy, the creative Nature of the universe is the parent, and all entities are the children. The universe wants to express itself with ever more novelty, in a balanced manner, this is why we exist at all. The brain roaster here is that parent and child are really as one.

I'll not let this go into a rant though. It's very tough stuff for me to express elegantly. Contexts are needed to describe further contexts and so on and so forth but I feel these are decent 'seeds' to riff on :)

Ultimately, forgiveness is what it will all boil down to in the end (the cool part of the end is that it is really a beginning, a continuation, a transition), this is really required for unimpeded co-operation to move our evolution forward with the universe rather than with resistance to it.

Rocky_Shorz

10th January 2011, 19:21

Queen Eleanor Cross Geddington See http://www.biffvernon.freeserve.co.uk/eleanor.htm Queen Eleanor's Crosses When Eleanor, the Infante de Castile and wife of King Edward, died at Harby in November of 1290, shortly after giving birth to her 17th child, her body was first taken to the nearby St Catherine's Priory at Lincoln. Her viscera were buried at Lincoln Cathedral and her embalmed body taken by road to London for burial at Westminster Abbey. The route was unusually well recorded. A large stone cross was erected at each of the twelve places that the cortege made an overnight stop. Puritan sentiment of Cromwell's soldiers in the 1660s saw the destruction of all but three of them, only those at Geddington, Hardingstone and Waltham Cross, still remaining. A small piece of the first cross from St. Catherine's Priory can be seen within the grounds of Lincoln Castle. Her final journey took Queen Eleanor's body down the Great North Road but the crosses once erected at Grantham and at Stamford are lost. Here it seems the pilgrimage took a westerly turn for the next cross stands in Geddington, in Northamptonshire. The next cross, at Hardingstone, also remains but those at Stoney Stratford, Woburn, Dunstable and St. Albans are lost. The Great North Road is regained at Waltham Cross where stands the third remaining cross. There were other crosses at Cheapside and, made more famous for its railway station, Charing Cross.

http://www.shafe.co.uk/crystal/images/lshafe/Queen_Eleanor_Cross.gif

Eleanor Crosses at Geddington and Hardingstone in Northants (1290s)

http://www.mauriceboddy.org.uk/pictures/Waltham-1%20(263%20x%20500).jpg
http://www.mauriceboddy.org.uk/pictures/Waltham-2%20(263%20x%20346).jpg

PHARAOH

10th January 2011, 20:54

Dear Friend -

A personal request: find 50 mins to watch or listen to the video commentary I made yesterday (posted about 9 hours ago) on the RULERS OF THE WORLD interview. You may not have caught up with this yet.

In the second half, I speak to concerns such as those you clearly have. Let me know what you think and feel.

Audio is available here if you're in your car or walking the dog:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_Charles_interview_comment ary_9_January_2011.mp3

The video is here (http://projectavalon.net/../Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_Charles_interview_comment ary_9_January_2011.mp4) or on YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=t2KDtqIP7kk).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KDtqIP7kk

Dearest Friend and Lightbearer; I humbly accepted your request and have veiwed your video. I cannot stress enough to you and your staff my sincerest gratitude for everything you all have and continue to do for humanity. I will honor and respect your decision to be a messenger on behalf of Charles and the 33. I am no hypocrite and would walk down this same road if I were you, for I can clearly see your intentions are for humanity to step out of the believing and into the knowing of things. The risks you are undertaking are many and the road will be ardueous. But know that I come to you and your staff with love in my heart and ask that you please excersie extreme caution now that we are going down this road together. I wish you all the best. Know you have a friend in me.

Intraphase

11th January 2011, 01:58

I had a bit of a vision before falling asleep last night. I envisioned two intersecting triangles (or pyramids), one black and one white (I think one can gather what I am getting at with this imagery: the triality of existence,

(...)

Ultimately, forgiveness is what it will all boil down to in the end (the cool part of the end is that it is really a beginning, a continuation, a transition), this is really required for unimpeded co-operation to move our evolution forward with the universe rather than with resistance to it.

That's an quite an elegant portrait combining the physical and abstract.
It's a vision I could subscribe to and look forward to the riffology involved.
A lot of times the coin analogy can go to the third side of the coin (your triality theme extended) is the edge upon which the coin can be rolled.
Then what would the head and the tail prefer to roll forever or stop and be picked up by an unknown hand or try convince the edge to roll forever.

Humble Janitor

11th January 2011, 02:28

Just stop manipulating us like animals, forgive all debts and best of all, SHOW SOME LOVE! :D

000

11th January 2011, 02:32

That's an quite an elegant portrait combining the physical and abstract.
It's a vision I could subscribe to and look forward to the riffology involved.
A lot of times the coin analogy can go to the third side of the coin (your triality theme extended) is the edge upon which the coin can be rolled.
Then what would the head and the tail prefer to roll forever or stop and be picked up by an unknown hand or try convince the edge to roll forever.

The edge of the coin! Thank you for reminding me of its existence. I'd honestly totally forgotten about it in my riff.

This now makes me consider the potential of notches existing on the edge of the coin, and the many facets shaped into each face of the coin... and how an infinite quantity of coins all with slight variances would still come from the same source down the line. From oneness all coins emerge, and all coins return to oneness... or perhaps, there was never a departure from their source and therefore never an arrival, because the coins were oneness all along. All roads lead to oneness... because all roads are oneness. The coins were just dreaming they were coins, when really they were infinite source expressing itself.

I am having a bit of a brain roaster moment, a very good one :) Oh to describe that which cannot be described other than by 'being'... so that the dream may allow the source of the dream to know itself.

...Perhaps wholeness or all-ness are better terms than oneness ;)

Intraphase

11th January 2011, 03:27

The edge of the coin! Thank you for reminding me of its existence. I'd honestly totally forgotten about it in my riff.

This now makes me consider the potential of notches existing on the edge of the coin, and the many facets shaped into each face of the coin... and how an infinite quantity of coins all with slight variances would still come from the same source down the line. From oneness all coins emerge, and all coins return to oneness... or perhaps, there was never a departure from their source and therefore never an arrival, because the coins were oneness all along. All roads lead to oneness... because all roads are oneness. The coins were just dreaming they were coins, when really they were infinite source expressing itself.

I am having a bit of a brain roaster moment, a very good one :) Oh to describe that which cannot be described other than by 'being'... so that the dream may allow the source of the dream to know itself.

We are all united in the beginnings and the endings as AlphaOmega - OmegaAlpha.
Its like a pulse that creates us anew in a vast number of locations in both physical space and time waves.
You never really know how many other versions of you are out there. I used to scratch my head at this talented ladies use of a technique she invented called hierarchy healing.
She had done so much remote viewing that every conceivable version of herself was hanging around figuring she was their god calling them back to the alpha-omega point from which they had all been recreated in this version of the great game of consciousness. I didn't laugh at her or dismiss the idea I just stored it away. But I get it now.

This video I almost couldn't remember. But the guy believes he has to go all around town and kill other versions of himself. Its like the opposite of the remote viewing lady I knew. So in the video he chucks death cards on his other dead selves, stealing a scene trait/trope out of "Apocalypse Now" when "Captain Killgore" chucks playing cards on the dead bodies after an assault. Its pretty funny stuff. The end is easy to guess though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEzhlFqtAJk

or perhaps, there was never a departure from their source and therefore never an arrival, because the coins were oneness all along. All roads lead to oneness... because all roads are oneness. The coins were just dreaming they were coins, when really they were infinite source expressing itself.

Yeah Yeah everyone is always at the beginning still and the ending still, that is timespace.
Led Zeppelin quote is "Yours is the cloth mine is the hand that sews time, his is the force that lies within."
The alpha and omega points are accessible inside yourself and for each person there is a unique route.
The hardest idea that I had to reaqauint myself with was the "almost" total irrelevance of size. Size is of spacetime, position is of timespace.
Hanging around with remote viewers helped to reawaken the idea that at some point there is only information being transferred instantaneously from AO -OA.
So your AO-OA point are at the center of your personal everything. Running backwards and forwards through time space then becomes an exercise of having two boxes.
One box is portraits like these you are drawing with words and in your mind pictures. The other box is filled with eye wear. Then you make a room or plane and invite other selfs in time space to contribute. Of course that means younger you's and older you's show up and start drawing on the power of pure geometry(motions in motions) and pure momentum (motion). I send stuff backwards(inward outward) in time to my younger selves constantly. The whole "great game of consciousness" is played with thought forms.
If your mind and heart is not to crowded by the static of trauma and internal drama loops "the game" as played with the universe is very fulfilling and entertaining. The universe is conscious but like us it is always at that AO - OA point so it relates to our visions and experiences emotions by knowing us as its unified self.
Sometimes the universe pauses in awe like a pretty girl looking in the mirror if complex stuff draws its attention. A time stop I call an eternal moment. Those benign moments that occur which you know you shall remember forever, yet their simple, and when you get into that multiband multibridge headspace its very relaxing.
People in my observation play "The Game" to experience states of mind that no medical or street drug could ever mimic or approach.

When I am plagued by children players, surfing through time, who want me to play the role of the adult, forgetting that a part of me is always just like them a child lizard king (green triangle energy band 4vs3 with single rod crossing thru) a ruler or conqueror of every domain encountered; When it gets thick with young beings I use playing cards and they (jay walking children) must choose red or black and I never look at the cards I hold one in each hand until they quickly have a winner and loser on whatever caused them to think I had the right or stupidity to judge them in the first place. Its a technique which quickly puts an end to a sudden jam. That's why I got off on that Fall Out Boy's video.

000

11th January 2011, 03:51

<Everything>

Absolutely everything in your post I'm in 100% resonance with.

Something just clicked in me. An enormous part of the veil just removed itself and I've recalled something I've been seeking to remember for a very very long time (that is the overall 'feeling' I have at the moment), just didn't know what. No words to describe it... it's clarity, and you've helped in my remembering, so thank you infinitely :)

Nugget: When I was around 14 years old or so (in this particular pathway of light refracting through the mirror hall) I went to a kind of expo thing in Toronto, an art show or something if I recall, it was a large one... at one of the booths was a man doing Chinese calligraphy for a few dollars, so I had one done that read "Thought Is Form". At the time, I didn't really realize what it meant, it was just a little motto for my graphic design work at the time, but over the years, many layers were peeled away from the material meaning, and it gained ever more significance. In essence, now, revealed, unveiled is: I am 'its' reflection and 'it' is mine. Face to face... it is so impossible to describe, and yet here it is, revealed :) Never quite seen/felt it this way before, yet it's deja vu.

Intraphase

11th January 2011, 04:21

Absolutely everything in your post I'm in 100% resonance with.

Something just clicked in me. An enormous part of the veil just removed itself and I've recalled something I've been seeking to remember for a very very long time (that is the overall 'feeling' I have at the moment), just didn't know what. No words to describe it... it's clarity, and you've helped in my remembering, so thank you infinitely :)

Cool. I am allowed to be a witness to the indescribable.
Yes, words fail in their power to define the "Everything".
I love words but I dig a silent mind and that clarity you speak of.

Many great creations are based on jumping back and forth between clarity and silence.

A child player gave this to me once.

:jester::popcorn::director:

The Two Princes & The Owl

Deep in the indigo seas, there are uncountable rivers of true energy, decaying back into the pure energy of shimmering sound. Here many deltas collide, forming cavernous chasms of tumultuous cacophonies, in the middle of quiet symphonies and gentle concertos, of low sounding notes. These echoes, bounce
off the natural towers, composed of the hardened steppes of decayed chaos, that have fashioned two natural upward spirals, capped with platforms less than a small throw apart.

A jumpable distance: if one was feeling a sense of bravado; and wanted to flaunt power over the seas of silence and chaos as they did their business below.
Two boys sit on opposite towers, writing furiously, occasionally glancing up at the other, until lost in their riddling; they both look up simultaneously and say in unison:
"Whose turn is it to be the evil one?"
When with a thunderous clap: a lightening bolt crosses above from one unseen world, in the far off distance, to another unseen world far away. A great horned owl descends rapidly snatching the books of riddles from both boys in exact unison with a controlled and mighty contraction, of each three taloned claw, on its left and right foot, momentarily hovering, poised gently above the children's head.
The two boys screech: and roll hysterically with laughter, as the owl slowly rises above, circling its comical prey, to make sure they do not slip, into the streams and eddies; churning cauldrons of condensed motion below.
The boys, over their fit of hysterics and laughter, relishing in the attack of the great horned owl, flip a golden coin and decide who shall jump to whom across the great divide. They descend downward along the rocky stairway of the towers, toward an unknown home. The Great Horned Owl resumes its flight.

The last page of riddling in each book ends with the Seventy Nine Four One. The seas of chaos and silence continuing their Almighty intersects below, slow and pause briefly as a small voice spake a single soft; "Thank You.”
The boys at the bottom of the stairs listened solemnly, as the seas returned to action, vowing to return again, and do battle with the evil owl and free the little girl. The great horned owl, begins to swiften towards the distances worlds of lights; and there many walls. Only a number etched into a book jacket of faded maroon leather told the final story of the journey through time and space: One-Seven-One-Nine-Two-Four-One. Yes even the titans of the night must take into consideration the great beast that appears. They wonder if The Infinite Mystery sounds the soul of the great one to know the comings, goings, and many doings of the world of light.
The cryptic codes refer the reader to ever-deeper black and all gray files, explaining the how and whys of the infamous Gardenia Caper. Eminent scientists wonder if they could extract from this simple numerical progression, the very quintessence of knowledge, to somehow discern the mechanical secrets of the universe.
Theologians looked with reverence upon the maroon tomb with the seven numbers, fearing not to peel back its cover and accidentally set into motion, some curse there very forebearers in spiritualism and mystery, had sent forth into the aethers; only to return as a final judgment.

Alien Ramone

11th January 2011, 04:48

Now, they are waiting for our instructions, so they can pack up and leave...

1 - Feed the poor
2 - stop treating and start healing
3 - clean our oceans there is enough plastic in the pacific to rebuild New York

they are ready to hand back the responsibility of running this world, so what would you ask them to change before leaving?

Money is no object because 98% of the worlds wealth is yours to spend...

I would like to see disclosure of the alien presence, new energy technologies, and new medical technologies. I would like to see the type of system that Alex Collier described where the basics are provided to everyone with no strings attached and everyone contributes the way they think they can best. It is what he called a holographic system with no centralized control and no monetary system. Collier also mentioned the possibility of Andromedans mentoring us and providing technology as needed, but we would maintain our sovereignty and would have to meet them half way with our efforts. Collier has said that Earth is one of the few planets in the galaxy where there is a monetary system, so there should be plenty of examples of how to make it work on Earth without one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0

Celine

11th January 2011, 04:51

i just want them to remember how to love...

Rocky_Shorz

12th January 2011, 18:07

OK, I saw the article about you forming a council for feeding the poor and needy, but I want more...

It was decided to start building multi-level farms in communities like mine with 6 Million people...

Full City Block sky riser Farms with lighting powered by free energy, stop wasting water dumping it into deserts to feed crops, the same amount that feeds 1 acre can water 1000 indoors...

Main floor to be a homeless Shelter and healing center offering unemployed the chance to earn food and money working on the farm...

enough need to be built now to feed the whole population...

It is time to make it a reality now...

wynderer

12th January 2011, 18:23

I was going to send this to Bill via email, but thought it would make an interesting discussion...

Last night I had a dream of a meeting of the 33 bloodlines, but was not what I expected...

the Representatives of the 33 bloodlines are solicitors, that have been doing what they were instructed for hundreds of years...

Avalon has brought the Bloodlines back together and allowed the spirits to reconnect, some are participants but many have just been quietly reading along...

Now, they are waiting for our instructions, so they can pack up and leave...

1 - Feed the poor
2 - stop treating and start healing
3 - clean our oceans there is enough plastic in the pacific to rebuild New York

they are ready to hand back the responsibility of running this world, so what would you ask them to change before leaving?

Money is no object because 98% of the worlds wealth is yours to spend...

just my opinion -- the bloodlines are reptilian bloodlines -- so if one expects them to think & act like a regular human being, one is barking up the wrong tree

jorr lundstrom

13th January 2011, 02:34

Its the sand in the oyster that creates the pearl, Really good Bill. I really cant understand why so many are so upset after those two videos.
I dont see this as a curse, rather as an opportunity. Now lets see if we in the alternative community can come up with solutions that can take us out of the game we have been presented. If not, lets play the game as effectively as possible.

Jonathon

13th January 2011, 04:28

My only requests would be - absolute full disclosure of everything and unconditional surrender of the various resources (material and otherwise) collected over the past 17,000 years to the rightful heirs - all of humanity. My message: there is nothing to forgive. Thank You!

Rocky_Shorz

13th January 2011, 20:36

just my opinion -- the bloodlines are reptilian bloodlines -- so if one expects them to think & act like a regular human being, one is barking up the wrong tree

many people still don't understand what is described as psychic attacks... Mind control...

If you were an advanced being that looked like a green lizard, you can't appear without being noticed so instead, you just take over the mind of a leader with the power/ position you need...

Case in point - Cheney - Daddy Bush

in photos, you can't see any differences and the voices in their heads talk them through special decisions...

it is so subtle most people don't realize what is happening...

That is why it is important now for them to be receiving additional guidance to work their way through the problems...

Rocky_Shorz

13th January 2011, 20:51

Food Shortage -

1st - from this point forward, biofuels can only use food to produce energy after the world is fed...
2nd - Thorium lvls in the atmosphere are going to continue making extreme changes in weather, citrus and other crops not able to handle these temperatures must be moved to indoor growing... Wheat, rice and corn are hardy enough to handle the extremes so can continue to be grown outdoors.
Stop punching holes in the ozone and you will be able to stop the chemtrail spraying, which form these antimatter burst to repair the ozone along with other compounds in an attempt to cool the planet.

RedeZra

13th January 2011, 20:52

If you were an advanced being that looked like a green lizard, you can't appear without being noticed so instead, you just take over the mind of a leader with the power/ position you need...

That is why it is important now for them to be receiving additional guidance to work their way through the problems...

When it comes to possession there is nothing like a good old session of exorcisme ; )

Rocky_Shorz

13th January 2011, 20:54

there are several members of this community that specialize in Psychic exorcisms and have performed them many times in the last few years...

shiva777

13th January 2011, 21:04

Jorr wrote

"Its the sand in the oyster that creates the pearl, Really good Bill. I really cant understand why so many are so upset after those two videos.
I dont see this as a curse, rather as an opportunity. Now lets see if we in the alternative community can come up with solutions that can take us out of the game we have been presented. If not, lets play the game as effectively as possible."

let's look at the CONTEXT in which Bill said "Its the sand in the oyster that creates the pearl"..that context is charle's reptilian "game" logic

.if the sand and the oyster are being manipulated then the "pearl" will also be something that is unnaturally made......

the sand is MANUFACTURED lack and fear,the oyster is the distorted hologram/DNA DISTORTION that people have been born in to and the "pearl" is the perfected reptilian hybrid,,,,,get it?

the way that have set the game up is that those who comply with reptilian intentions and actions are the "fittest" in their particular game of "survival of the fittest"...the way the Divine set up the game is that those who function within the PHYSICS of harmony with the Divine PHYSICS survive...it's called God realisation...and perpetual motion/free energy etc

Banshee

13th January 2011, 21:14

..........

Rocky_Shorz

13th January 2011, 21:15

"Sorcha Faal"

A grim report prepared by France’s General Directorate for External Security (DGSE) obtained by Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) states that president’s Obama and Sarkozy have “agreed in principal” to create a joint US-European military force to deal exclusively with a Global uprising expected this spring as our World runs out of food.

According to this report, Sarkozy, as head of the G-20 group of developed Nations, called for and received an emergency meeting with Obama this past Monday at the White House wherein he warned his American counterpart that the shock rise in food prices occurring due to an unprecedented series of disasters was threatening the stability of the entire World and could lead to the outbreak of Total Global War.

Just last week French Prime Minister Francois Fillon underlined that one of France's top G-20 priorities was to find a collective response to “excessive volatility” in food prices now occurring, a statement joined by Philippe Chalmin, a top economic adviser to the French government, who warned the World may face social unrest including food riots in April as grain prices increase to unprecedented highs.

The fears of the French government over growing Global instability was realized this past week after food riots erupted in Algeria and Tunisia and left over 50 dead. So dire has the situation become in Tunisia that their government this morning rushed in massive amounts of troops and tanks to their capital city Tunis and instituted a Nationwide curfew in an order to quell the growing violence.

The United Nations, also, warned this past Friday that millions of people are now at risk after food prices hit their highest level ever as Global wheat stocks fell to 175.2 million tons from 196.7 million tons a year ago; Global corn stocks are said may be 127.3 million tons at the end of this season, compared with last month’s USDA outlook for 130 million tons; and Global soybean inventories will drop to 58.78 million tons at the end of this season, from 60.4 million tons a year earlier.

Robert Zoellick, president of the World Bank, further warned this past week that rising food prices are “a threat to global growth and social stability” as our World, for the first time in living memory, has been warned is just “one poor harvest away from chaos”.

Important to note about how dire the Global food situation has become is to understand the disasters that have befallen our World’s top wheat growing Nations this past year, and who in descending order are: China, India, United States, Russia, France, Canada, Germany, Ukraine, Australia and Pakistan.

From China’s disaster: 2010 China drought and dust storms were a series of severe droughts during the spring of 2010 that affected Yunnan, Guizhou, Guangxi, Sichuan, Shanxi, Henan, Shaanxi, Chongqing, Hebei and Gansu in the People's Republic of China as well as parts of Southeast Asia including Vietnam and Thailand, and dust storms in March and April that affected much of East Asia. The drought has been referred to as the worst in a century in southwestern China.

From India’s disaster: A record heat wave and growing water crisis in India are forcing politicians to consider implementing user fees and other measures to conserve water. Sri Lanka’s President Mahinda Rajapaksa yesterday instructed ministers and officials to prepare a strategic plan to face an impending food crisis as there were signs that the World is to confront a food shortage by next April.

From Russia’s disaster: (10% of total World’s output, 20% for export) they were hit by the highest recorded temperatures Russia has seen in 130 years of recordkeeping; the most widespread drought in more than three decades; and massive wildfires that have stretched across seven regions, including Moscow.

From France’s disaster: The French government lowered their wheat crop forecast by 2.7% over last year due to drought and cold weather.

From Canada’s disaster: Record setting drought has affected their main grain producing provinces in the Western part of their Nation.

From Ukraine’s disaster: (the World's top producer of barley and sixth biggest of wheat) hit as hard as Russia by fire and drought to the point they have halted all their exports of grains in 2011.

From Australia’s disaster: Fears of a Global wheat shortage have risen after the Queensland area of Australia was hit by calamitous flooding. Andrew Fraser, Queensland's State Treasurer, described the floods as a “disaster of biblical proportions”. Water is covering land the size of France and Germany. It is expected to reach over 30 feet deep in some areas in coming days.

From Pakistan’s disaster: Floods have submerged 17 million acres of Pakistan's most fertile crop land, have killed 200,000 herd of livestock and have washed away massive amounts of grain and left farmers unable to meet the fall deadline for planting new seeds, which implies a massive loss of food production in 2011, and potential long term food shortages.

Not only have the vast majority of our World’s top wheat producers been affected, but also one of the main grain producing regions on the Planet, South America, has been hit by disasters too where an historic drought has crippled Argentina and Bolivia, and Brazil, that regions largest Nation, has been hit with catastrophic floods that have killed nearly 400 people in the past few days alone.

Even the United States has been hit as a catastrophic winter has seen 49 of their 50 States covered by snow causing unprecedented damage to their crops in Florida due to freezing weather, and record setting rains destroying massive numbers of crops in their most important growing region of California.

And if you think that things couldn’t get any worse you couldn’t be more mistaken as South Korea (one of the most important meat exporters in Asia) has just this past week had to destroy millions of farm animals after an outbreak of the dreaded foot-and-mouth disease was discovered.

To how horrific the Global food situation will become this year was made even more grim this past month when the United States reported that nearly all of their honey bee and bumblebee populations have died out, and when coupled with the “mysterious” die-off of the entire bat population in America means that the two main pollinators of fruit and vegetable plants will no longer be able to do their jobs leading to crop losses this report warns will be “biblical and catastrophic”.

Chillingly to note is that after meeting with Sarkozy, Obama began implementing his Nation’s strategy for keeping the truth of this dire events from reaching the American people by ordering all US citizens to have an Internet ID so that they can be tracked and jailed should they begin telling the truth.

And so today, as agricultural traders and analysts warn that the latest revision to US and Global stocks means there is no further room for weather problems, a new cyclone is preparing to hit Australia, brutal winter weather in India has killed nearly 130, and more snow is warned to hit America, and we’re not even two full weeks into 2011…may God have mercy on us all...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1439.htm

RedeZra

13th January 2011, 21:27

there are several members of this community that specialize in Psychic exorcisms and have performed them many times in the last few years...

Yes it's called Prayers ; )

shiva777

13th January 2011, 21:40

RedeZra

14th January 2011, 03:13

Ok, go ahead. I'm nuts aren' t I?

You're probably not nuts... you just need some uninterrupted sleep ; )

astrid

14th January 2011, 05:46

Its the sand in the oyster that creates the pearl, Really good Bill. I really cant understand why so many are so upset after those two videos.
.

I think in part, it's because alot of people don't understand the duality concept , and that we are in a duality here. We need each other, believe it or not, the dark and the light need each other. But this thought seems to REALLY trigger some people that have not shifted out of the separation paradigm. They attack, and get angry and want to hold onto their position at all costs, after all these beliefs are very deeply entrenched, generational for many. Its hard to help shift people out of this victim thinking paradigm, (it frustrates me and breaks my heart to no end on a daily basis), and im always looking for new ways to "package" information on this front. And having been personally very angry at everyone and everything in the past, i understand the "dark" and have learnt within myself the embrace, of both sides. It's no accident that the path of spiritual growth on an individual level, repeats itself within this holographic universe. I think its forgiveness that people get so stuck on, first self, then others. Buts is a huge weight lifted when u finally achieve that. Its not condoning, just accepting the git in the oyster as part of the growth process.

Lately for me life has taken on a very dream like quality, sort of hard to explain. Shamans talk about everything being a dream, only some dreams are more solid that others, i do wonder about this alot.
I keep seeing this vision of the whole thing being a huge theatrical production, all parts and players set up for the maximum opportunity for our soul's growth. And its all left up to us what we do with the hand we have been dealt.

One thing that is a stand out of late for me is the language shifting from not if we can overcome, but to how, and when.
I also find it very interesting that in this game when we figure something out we get given more pieces.

Im beginning to see the PTB as not dark at all but just simply here performing their job.
In fact i also have a sense that they will all be VERY relieved for us to figure it all out and take over, as they are tired of playing the role that they are.

Certainly, as a collective, we are making some in roads like never before....

Fractalius

14th January 2011, 06:47

Thanks Astrid, it is good to see people, especially those on a site like this, getting it. 4 years ago, although not devoid of the understanding, often conversations would have people who were will still ill from the confusion of a foggy mirror.
A person pointing to a boogieman figure, is seen at some angles, as a form of intoxication or blindness. 'They', the boogieman, is really an extension of another manifestation of our selves. Another version on the graphic equaliser. A product of the wheel of inertia.

We can't label ourselves as victims without labels of enablers attached too.
Duality is like a battery. But perhaps you get more charge when one end doesn't realise they are and end of a battery.

Humans have always had the power to transmute energy and do so, even unknowingly, and therefore sometimes irresponsibly.
But the path of collective paths is certain, the frequentness of detours and dead ends and long shortcuts, depend on those trekking their individual paths.
The adventure, that is the collective path, is meant to be done without cheating. Honesty and integrity in emotion provides a bigger charge.

Imagine the domino metaphor, but add, that for each piece, it is preferred to not know it is a domino piece until the pieces are set up. Some areas of the display realise they are dominoes, but are unaware that the display is many-fold bigger than realised. The domino display is far more surreal and miraculous than anyone could imagine. Though imagination is quite a big factor. I-magi-nation.
;)

RedeZra

14th January 2011, 08:13

Im beginning to see the PTB as not dark at all but just simply here performing their job.
In fact i also have a sense that they will all be VERY relieved for us to figure it all out and take over, as they are tired of playing the role that they are.

So the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is just a job in which the PTB really want out of so that we can go and fight there for a change ?

I love logic but more than I love logic I love empathy

jorr lundstrom

14th January 2011, 09:10

Thank you Astrid for your balanced reaktion. Maybye its necessary for humanity to walk the road Charles described. Maybye humanity as such must confront its own shadow. Maybye we have to have one world government before we can live in harmony without any nations and borders at all. But for this to happen humanity as a whole have to wake up to be able to take responability for life and the planet. Maybye this is a way to force a majority to awaken.

mondaze

14th January 2011, 10:50

i agree, love is the answer. Never give into fear or agressiveness. offer love to all even the most heinous transgressors, because they are simple pawns too.

Rocky_Shorz

14th January 2011, 21:01

Sion Switzerland? multiple earthquakes?

How interesting, then, to discover, as I have recently, that the
name of several places in France - Rhedae/Rennes, Rouen/Rhodom,
Rodez/Rhodes, are derived from the Greek Island of Rhodes, whose
name itself comes from the rose-goddess Rhoda. Contemporary texts
say that the red-haired Celtic "Redones" or "rose people"
(Rutheni/Rhodanim) setlled both Rennes in the Midi and Rennes in
Brittany - the name derives from the ethnic group. It is said that
the resident goddess of Mount Sion-Vaudemont, the "other Sion" of
the "priory of Sion" in Switzerland, is Rosemertha - the Rose
mother. Interestingly, one interpretation of the King Arthur legends
is that "Arthur" or "Ursus" was really Riothamus, a Dark Age Celt
ruler of a "thalassocracy" that spanned Brittany in France and
Cornwall in England. Many of the places near Breton Rennes are
associated with Arthur and the Grail legends, and many of the Breton
kings had Judaic names. And some derive Riothamus' name from...
Joseph of Arimathea, the supposed bearer of the Grail to
Glastonbury.

Hisler, Anne Lea: Pierre Plantard's wife, who died in 1971.
According to a character sketch written by Anne, Plantard
was "invited in 1947 by the Federal Government of Switzerland, he
resided for several years there, near Lake Leman, where numerous
charges de missions and delegates from the entire world are
gathered." (CASS: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/grail_5g.htm NB:
site currently under reconstruction). Lake Leman was the place where
the Marshall Plan for the post-WWII reconstruction of Europe was
drawn up. Another esotericist apart from Plantard was supposed to
have visited Lake Leman in the immediate post-war years: the
financial wizard Bernard Baruch, advisor to Franklin Roosevelt and
graduate of a French "hermetic" school (MB).

The corporate portion of the NWO pyramid seems to be dominated by
international bankers and the big pharmaceutical cartels, as well as
other major multinational corporations. The Royal Family of England,
namely Queen Elizabeth II and the House of Windsor, (who are, in
fact, descendants of the German arm of European Royalty -the Saxe-
Coburg-Gotha family-changed the name to Windsor in 1914 ), are high
level players in the oligarchy which controls the upper strata of
the Illuminati. The decision making Illuminati nerve centers of this
effort are in the London (especially the City of London), Basel
Switzerland, and Brussels (NATO headquarters).

Given the unique position of the Order is inconceivable that they
did not have prior knowledge of their fate. It is known that
immediately preceding to the fateful events of October the 13th, the
night before the raids took place, the Templar fleet, some 18
vessels, sailed from the port of La Rochelle presumably carrying the
contents of the various treasuries. Why De Molay and the rest of the
knights elected to stay and be captured is unknown but it is
speculated that due to a mixture of arrogance and pride they did not
believe the king's seneschals would go through with the raids, to
his cost he discovered that they did. Where then did they go? Some
went to Germany and joined one of their kindred orders, the Teutonic
Knights; some went to Portugal where they aligned themselves with
the ruling house, others came to Scotland where they enjoyed the
protection and patronage of King Robert the Bruce, the disposition
of the rest remains a mystery as indeed the whereabouts of the
treasuries. There is well-founded speculation that the remaining
Templars made their way to Switzerland and founded the countries
reputation as the very hub of the banking world. As we shall see
later, this is not the only secretive, close knit organisation
founded by the Knights Templar. Finally, the Templars did not forget
the punishment dealt to them by the Vatican and at the time of the
Reformation and the emergence of Protestantism in 1522, the forces
of the Catholic Church found themselves facing the Teutonic Knights
in battle.

The problem with the majority of Christians during the Sardis church
period was their lack of scriptural knowledge. When they joined
secret societies most renounced their salvation and denied Christ
their Saviour. Many were Lutherans and Calvinists who were confident
that once saved always saved. There is no record that John Calvin
himself joined secret societies but there is evidence that he
accepted money from the Rosicrucians to fund his Protestant efforts
in Switzerland. Accepting contributions from secret societies
doesn't constitute apostasy, but it certainly opens the doors of
Rosicrucian lodges to the undiscerning followers of Calvin...

link (http://www2.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/poseur3.html)

Arrowwind

14th January 2011, 21:27

What is the PTB?

Rocky_Shorz

14th January 2011, 21:31

PTB = Powers that be, it refers to those running our world from behind governments, not elected officials.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7yrpxWkP_Zg/SvqlAGvj9MI/AAAAAAAAAsw/kS-AnGAu2II/s400/Double+Headed+Phoenix.jpg

this symbol represents not the government, but the hidden ruling oligarchy in power of the government. This represents control that is passed down from generation to generation through history. This is why seemingly disparate organizations have the same emblem of power behind it on a global level.

It is the symbol of the 33rd level of Freemasons...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7yrpxWkP_Zg/SvqiWMyHEGI/AAAAAAAAArw/cmt2dZ3nMjc/s400/Masonic+Phoenix.jpg

rather fitting for a group running a million year experiment that believes burning down a civilization to let it be reborn is the only way...

Rocky_Shorz

15th January 2011, 00:29

Mount Sion is at 33 Degrees

Sion in Switzerland has had 2 earthquakes in the last week...

didn't Charles mention his group was a little shaky right now... ;)

Rocky_Shorz

15th January 2011, 00:45

“In the [8th] century the Merovingian Dynasty of France was overthrown by the mayors of the Merovingian Palaces, the Carolingians (741). But Carolingians were also a major part of the Jesus–Magdalene heresy... They took Merovingian wives to assure that the heretical ‘divine’ bloodline was preserved twofold. The Carolingian empire became the unholy Holy Roman Empire under Charlemagne who became the first Emperor, a huge coup.”...

“The title Dagobert’s Revenge signifies not just the vengeance sought by the Merovingians against the Catholic church which betrayed them, but also, in a broader sense, the struggle of all members of the ancient bloodline of the Holy Grail (which goes back, we believe, to the beginnings of civilization), the only bearers of true God-ordained sovereignty, against the forces which, in every age, have attempted to wrest power away from the bloodline merely for the purpose of domination.”

full link (http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-2.html)

Well Bill, this might be a hint to why the 33 look at you in a different light...

Isostool

15th January 2011, 11:36

The 33 - the form of it - has its root deep into antiquity. I would speculate that at one time, the esoteric orders [as opposed to the business ones - the more 'straight' ones] were closer to the 'top' than now. Perhaps the levels of their influence has waxed and waned over the years, being quite low at present, even if they might like to think otherwise. But don't get us wrong, indeed we like your work ;).. I mean what would half of the new age books I read as a young woman been without you... huh!? so perhaps we are mistaken in saying you are not so powerful anymore :(....]. But back in the day when the numbers [the 33... and of course this may alter a little but always the preferred, no?] were solidified, the esoteric meaning of it would in no way have been unnoticed. It may have even been contrived to appear uncontrived in showman style - legitimisation happens. But we do not say that the form is contrived.. no... it is self assembly of the body of human macro manifest. That the 33 personified the spine of the human being, how it holds itself up, it is its strength and its holder of power. From the brain [creator, universe, god ] the plans are disseminated through this system. the brain has also been known as the 34th secret compartment [containing assorted sick#%$#s, genius' and louisXIVths [for display purposes only]]. This was the command structure, - all commands issued from here to the body of humanity.

The rearranging at present is the new legitimisation self assembling itself with a holographic intelligence. More than a holographic intelligence even - it is moving into the geometrical shape in all fractal embedded scalar representations - of the age of DNA. The age of the brain being in the body [on the Earth] not in the heavens. The age of the centralisation of the brain in every individual person - as DNA is in every cell - as is the holographic principle. It is the age of the holographic, time travelling, hyper-iso-DNA. The age of individuation. The universe in each ONE. As this grounds, their shape needs to reflect it. They have SEVERE growing pains.
These guys ARE the personification of DNA, physically. They contain the blueprints and instigate the production of goods. They contain and ARE the blueprints for making RNA and ribosomes, which in turn make the proteins which in turn makes the flesh. What I think may also be occurring is the understanding of their isoDNA which they are in isospin with. The representation of this DNA is elsewhere on Earth than they are, but it is them and they are it. Understanding this is understanding time travel. [or lack of it, personally, I'm not a fan].

We are not longer in the age of 'spine' we are in the age of hyperDNA as a power source. It is all about individuation now. And a point which is more hyper conductive, normative and fistula free than any louisXIVth before. [lol].

Rocky_Shorz

16th January 2011, 20:32

OH WOW...

before I share the biggest secret of the 33, is the forum backed up?

It is the reason why the Zionist hate the world enough to cause all this trouble...

slvrfx

16th January 2011, 20:47

Also very strong evidence of Templars in Utah, connected to the Aztecs.
it is PDF or I would copy a few parts over...

there is no mountain of Croix in Scotland, this is said to reflect a hidden mystery of the Templars...

Lac La Croix... Lake in the Boundary waters of Minnesota - Canada...

also one of the possible routes given for the Templar expedition with the Vikings to Kensington late 1600s was coming down through Canada...

Rocky_Shorz

16th January 2011, 21:00

oops I just noticed how far off the date is, it was the 14th century not the 17th when the Templars came with the Vikings...

silentghost80

16th January 2011, 21:26

Kerrys latest interview with Jelaila Starr gets in to the complexity of the bloodline/hybrid/DNA issue...it's mind boggling..Jelaila feels confused to me but good food for thought

should be archived any day now

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/whistelblower-radio-hp.html
If you go by what Jelaila Starr said about the elite being half reptilian half human hybrids this passage is brought into a new light

O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Dale

16th January 2011, 21:34

I noticed a post above depicting two images of the "double headed eagle." The "double headed eagle" was used most frequently in the age of the Roman empire, and consequently picked up by several, latter civilizations.

Masonry does use such depictions, though she does not hold this symbol as that of ultimate power, nor the 33rd degree mark. The Scottish Rite branch of Masonry uses the "double headed eagle" as their sign, with the "33" contained in it's depiction representing the number of degrees in that particular rite.

Rocky_Shorz

16th January 2011, 22:35

When I first learned of the hidden truth of the Zionist, I was shocked, but don't see this as a reason for destroying humanity...

starting with the 33 bloodlines of Lucifer...

The hidden truth is...

This is not Lucifer...
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/58000/Lucifer-under-our-skin--58281.jpg

This is...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Diego_Vel%C3%A1zquez_012.jpg/440px-Diego_Vel%C3%A1zquez_012.jpg

Lucifer - Latin for Light Bringer is the virgin Mary who gave us Christ...

The Church turned Lucifer into Satan...

There is no Satan...

how much deeper is this rabbit hole... ;)

Celine

16th January 2011, 22:53

Light and Darkness have a very close relationship..

Anyone who doesnt know that is obviously not aware of the true essence of either

bodixa

16th January 2011, 23:00

Rocky_ please don't post images like that. I just spilled coke on my keyboard. :fear:

As far as I know, early Christianity doesn't portray Satan like that. Those images originated in Europe and beyond after Christianity integrated with Pagan religions and merged the concept of the Devil with pagan 'goat man' gods and other things like that.

I dunno that Christianity 'invented' Satan all by itself - multiple influence, multiple agendas. It's a dissertation that one.

(pedantic student update: and the God Pan too - Greek)

Arrowwind

16th January 2011, 23:24

Light and Darkness have a very close relationship..

Anyone who doesnt know that is obviously not aware of the true essence of either

Yes, and its relationship can be contemplated in the ancient yin/yang symbol

But on the other hand..... where darkness is, light can invade.. Where there is light, darkness cannot dwell.
Just another way of looking at things

Rocky_Shorz

16th January 2011, 23:38

well take evil out of the equation, because there is none...

people are good or bad from their own choices not because they were led by the devil...

Evil was created to scare people into the churches waiting arms...

Rocky_Shorz

16th January 2011, 23:41

Rocky_ please don't post images like that. I just spilled coke on my keyboard. :fear:

As far as I know, early Christianity doesn't portray Satan like that. Those images originated in Europe and beyond after Christianity integrated with Pagan religions and merged the concept of the Devil with pagan 'goat man' gods and other things like that.

I dunno that Christianity 'invented' Satan all by itself - multiple influence, multiple agendas. It's a dissertation that one.

don't confuse the Christian church with the Catholic church...

by demonizing the bloodlines of Lucifer it preventing people from listening...

gifted bloodlines... were brought in as celibate priests and monks so they ended...

bodixa

17th January 2011, 13:04

don't confuse the Christian church with the Catholic church...

by demonizing the bloodlines of Lucifer it preventing people from listening...

gifted bloodlines... were brought in as celibate priests and monks so they ended...

Really??? Holy Mother of God!!

I'm too exhausted to argue today. Have a nice day. ;) :o)

Rocky_Shorz

17th January 2011, 16:50

Celine

17th January 2011, 17:01

this is just a scratch on the surface of the whole truth, I shared some with Celine to give her an idea of how heavy it gets... all of this pain and suffering just because the 33 bloodlines wanted to be recognized as special, but the Catholic Church took that away...

Have the 33 ever considered that this is their test, not ours?

They must create a sustainable planet with everyone on it before they will be allowed to leave...

the clock is ticking...

That is an interesting point of view.. i dont doubt they have investigated that perspective..

jcocks

17th January 2011, 17:39

this is just a scratch on the surface of the whole truth, I shared some with Celine to give her an idea of how heavy it gets... all of this pain and suffering just because the 33 bloodlines wanted to be recognized as special, but the Catholic Church took that away...

Have the 33 ever considered that this is their test, not ours?

They must create a sustainable planet with everyone on it before they will be allowed to leave...

the clock is ticking...

That is absolutely the point I have been trying to make. This time, no-one gets left behind. Either we all go forward to no-one goes forward. They *HAVE* to learn to co-operate and operate with the common man as equals or it will not work - not for them, and not for us.

Rocky_Shorz

17th January 2011, 17:47

anyone wonder why Muslims have not been allowed to eat or touch pork in their lifetime and must make the Hajj at least once in their lifetime to circle this stone 7 times and then touch it before leaving?

http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstonemecca4.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/hajj2.jpg

If you believe in the ancient astronaut theory of creation, you have to wonder if the Black Stone is an alien artifact.

The Black Stone of Mecca, or Kaaba Stone, is a Muslim relic, which according to Islamic tradition dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.The Stone is a dark rock, polished smooth by the hands of millions of pilgrims, that has been broken into a number of fragments cemented into a silver frame in the side of the Kaaba. Although it has often been described as a meteorite, this hypothesis is still under consideration.

The Black Stone is a Muslim object of reverence, which according to Islamic tradition dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. Many consider it to be a Tektite. It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

The Stone is roughly 30 cm (12 in.) in diameter, and 1.5 meters (5 ft.) above the ground. When pilgrims circle the Kaaba as part of the Tawaf ritual of the Hajj, many of them try, if possible, to stop and kiss the Black Stone, emulating the kiss that it received from the Islamic prophet Muhammad. If they cannot reach it, they are to point to it on each of their seven circuits around the Kaaba. The Stone is broken into a number of pieces from damage which was inflicted during the Middle Ages. The pieces are held together by a silver frame, which is fastened by silver nails to the Stone.

The Black Stone of Kaaba or Mecca in Arabic, is called Al-hajar Al-aswad. The word Kaaba - Ka'ba - Ka'bah - means Cube.

http://www.crystalinks.com/metatrons_cube.gif
full explanation (http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html)

Leon

17th January 2011, 18:48

I found the following on Wiki this may be of some interest:

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Black_Nobility

This may also be of some interest:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/index.htm

Everywhere you can only find 13 ruling families:

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/introduction.htm

Rocky_Shorz

17th January 2011, 20:35

that Wiki link is a good one...

* "I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family. Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered. I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say."
* "Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded 'history', and beyond, our Family has been 'directing' the 'play' from behind the scenes, in one way or another. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are 'born to lead'. It is part of the design for this current paradigm. The breeding is generally case specific, dependent upon the role that the Family members in question are due to grow into. I will touch more on this in answer to the next poster's question that you rephrased. There are no unapproved unions. Our Family will always intermarry between lines, or, what we would term 'Houses'. Marriages are arranged. In all my years alive, I have never seen or heard of a Family member breaking this code, as far as marriage goes. You do as you are told. One cannot 'join' the Family. One is 'born', or incarnated into it. On the rare instances of a child being born that could be seen as bringing 'difficulties', you are correct in your premise, that it would be raised as part of the Family, though would not grow up in the house or community of either of it's parents."
* "You need to first understand the structure of the Family. In the grand scheme of things, the Line is not as important as the House, the House, is not as important as the Family. The Family is all. No matter the House or Line, we are One (truly international) Family." (...) "Our realms of influence do not fit as comfortably into the three boxes of your triangle as you may imagine. There are six disciplines of training within the Family, and each member of the Family is schooled extensively in all of them, from early childhood. We all have an area of specialty, though we have experience in all spheres. The six spheres or 'schools' of learning are Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences. In practice, out there on the 'stage' of public life, we hold key positions in all of these main areas of importance. With the addition of a complicit Media machine and ownership of your Financial establishments, all bases are covered."
* "... knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important. There are 13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family."
* "[The term "generational member"] means that one is born into the Family. The Order and it's agenda is handed down, from generation to generation. Only in extremely rare occasions, have outsiders been invested into the Family, and then, even these were of other 'esoterically' integrable lines."
* "Question: Are we really considered chattel and traded as such by the government? By the governments, generally, yes. People are seen as 'collateral'. Pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board, according to the game plan. By the Family, contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm directly. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold, and we must play our parts in the game, as given to us by the Creator. In many ways, it is actually in our own interest that you are prepared for the coming Harvest. Just not maybe prepared in quite the way that you would like. Still, even then, you are choosing the Negative Polarity with your own Free Will decisions, with a little 'help' and direction from us. Souls are Harvestable in either 'extreme' of the Polarities, one could say."
* "You will never be 'free', for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and 'here' is very likely not really where you think 'here' is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here. You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don't make it, will have to repeat the cycle."
* "The British Royalty is not the most powerful line. The names that you know, do not hold the real ancient power. There are others above these lineages in the Hierarchy. You will not know the names of these lines."
* "I would be considered to be a "Regional" leader. Above me, are National and International."
* "It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful."
o "Understand, that we HAVE to be Negative. That's what we were sent here to be. It is our contract, and it has always been to help you, by providing the "Catalyst" I spoke of earlier. Being Negative is very hard for us, not on a physical level, (the characters we play enjoy our roles, as we're programmed that way), but on a Spiritual level, it is hard. We surpassed the lowly negative vibrations eons ago. We are Light, and we are Love. It is a very hard thing for us to do Spiritually, to create all this Negativity, but we do it because we love you, and it is for your highest good, ultimately. You could say, that it is our Sacrifice that we have made, in order to be of Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to you, our Brothers and Sisters in the One. Remember, we are all just acting out a grand old game here, where we agree to forget who we really are, that in the remembering, that we may find each other again, and know that we are One. That All of Life, is One."
o "Our initial contract, was to introduce the Catalyst for Free Will on this planet. When Yahweh initially began discourse with the Council of Elders, he was not initially looking for help with introducing Free Will, but rather for guidance on how he could best speed up his (and his inhabitant's) evolutionary process."
o "As for "fighting for the freedom of all souls", remember that ultimately, this is a Game, that we are all playing here. We are actors, playing on the "stage of Life". This 'world' is all illusion, or 'though-form'. No one really "dies", and no one is really hurt. In between incarnations, you know this very well. But the rules of the game ensure that you must forget who you really are, so that you believe it is all 'real' whilst you are playing the game of Life. That is an essential prerequisite when you are making choices. Otherwise, the game would be too easy."
o "In order to "win" (or more accurately to be successful in) the Game, we must be as Negatively Polarized as possible. Service to Self in the extreme. Violence, War, Hatred, Greed, Control, Enslavement, Genocide, Torture, Moral Degradation, Prostitution, Drugs, all these things and more, they serve our purpose. The difference between us and you, in the Game, is that we know that we are 'playing'. The less you know about the Game, and the less you remember that you're a player, the more 'senseless' living becomes. In all these Negative things, we are providing you with tools. But you do not see it. It is not what we do, but how you react to it, that is important. We give you the tools. You have the Free Will choice how you will use them. You have to take responsibility. There is only One of Us here. Understand that, and you will understand the Game."
o "When one understands and sees that all is Illusion, or Thought, one can "use 'The Force' to manipulate the illusions. All things, seen and unseen, are inter-connected Life-Force Energy. Once you know what the magician knows, it's not magic. It's a 'tool of Creation'."

Celine

17th January 2011, 20:40

"Once you know what the magician knows, it's not magic. It's a 'tool of Creation'." "

Sa c'est bien dit!!!!

Very interesting..thank you.

Rocky_Shorz

17th January 2011, 20:56

I thought this said a lot too...

The difference between us and you, in the Game, is that we know that we are 'playing'. The less you know about the Game, and the less you remember that you're a player, the more 'senseless' living becomes. In all these Negative things, we are providing you with tools. But you do not see it. It is not what we do, but how you react to it, that is important. We give you the tools. You have the Free Will choice how you will use them. You have to take responsibility. There is only One of Us here. Understand that, and you will understand the Game."

There is only one God? or 1 player representing the 33 that feel like they are Gods? Or... all of you are playing my game...

well they think it is a game which is bad news for 7 billion people that don't...

but yet we are one...

Rocky_Shorz

17th January 2011, 21:47

Is this what happens when we realize it is just a game?

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2011/c3/20110117/20110117_0542_c3_512.jpg

SOHO has given only 1 image for today and that was it...

Looking through the blue "reality"... What we are seeing behind is the alien ship protecting us, that puts rings around the sun to shake out the flares while they are pointing away from us...

reversed mil image...

http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/javagif/gifs_small/20110116_2057_d2.gif

Isostool

17th January 2011, 23:10

Post removed.

It is not my responsibility to make sure you understand or 'like' my posts Fractalius. It is also not my responsibility to make sure it is palatable for you, specifically. This forum is respectful of diversity. Your statement below is not respectful of my artistic diversity, even though you say it is in respect. Your statement is actually disrespectful. If you don't want to read it then don't read it. But that does not make it an acceptable action to post that you find my writing repellent.

Fractalius

18th January 2011, 02:43

Iso, sorry I find it very hard to read your posts, The volume and structure, italics, square parentheses and upper case lettering causes me to be repelled and not read any of it. I point this out with respect and knowing I am not one to be always clear myself.

add
fair enough isostool, it is your choice to find insult and drama. All that you mention in your edit was already understood, but I asked the question still. One can only ask eh.

Leon

18th January 2011, 14:07

The interview with Charles, and the above links do open up a whole different way of thinking:

It does show how many things are used to control us, eg. church, religion, laws, money, greed, lust, jealousy. All these lead to many of the problems we have in the world. It can be very different. But we do need to accept many way’s of thinking and doing as well.

There are many people who are so involved in the current way’s that this will all sound too much or like mumbo jumbo…

These will condemn everything said, because this would suit them better…

To me this is a much more believable scenario then what we are tough to believe, it seems so surreal yet it is reality as we know it.

Perhaps I know much more about pasts, I also know that when things are revealed they are from time to time covered up, in order to not be exposed.

This planet experiment as its called has been going much longer then we are told, just the set-up has been changed (the game plan).

I also believe this is not the only planet with this set-up.

Perhaps it’s time we exposed what is really going on, however most people would not be able to understand, comprehend what is real……

Those that do could get together and work together to fix things slowly, and perhaps explore the possibility of finding the other experimental planets. And all work together to find home…

Rocky_Shorz

18th January 2011, 16:52

I also know that when things are revealed they are from time to time covered up, in order to not be exposed.

This planet experiment as its called has been going much longer then we are told, just the set-up has been changed (the game plan).

I also believe this is not the only planet with this set-up.

Perhaps it’s time we exposed what is really going on, however most people would not be able to understand, comprehend what is real……

Those that do could get together and work together to fix things slowly, and perhaps explore the possibility of finding the other experimental planets. And all work together to find home…

after hopping down the rabbit hole, I did find the answers I was looking for, thank you Charles...

but realize some truths are not meant to be known, all it would cause is pain...

what I have decided, is the past is past, now we are on the next chapter, we have entered the new age, so all we should worry about is moving forward.

the poisons being pumped from using so much gas has brought us to the brink, it is time to release clean energy to the world.

It is time to build large plants creating energy using advanced physics and rotating magnetic fields...

the energy is sold to the public and used to pay for the government, starting with teachers and schools, the police and firemen, homeless healing centers, then to local and state offices...

all debt forgiven to break the chains on humanity...

Leon

18th January 2011, 17:28

Some more interesting links, these are not hard to find:

http://www.cropcirclebooks.com/AliensInWorldReligions/

This link has some interesting side bars, and links throughout...

http://www.cropcirclebooks.com/martiangodstorahcodeevidence/index.htm

these are available in book form:

http://www.cropcirclebooks.com/anunnakitorahbiblecodes/index.htm

not that I am promoting this...

Rocky_Shorz

19th January 2011, 18:10

I'm copying Bill's post over from the other thread because I don't want it lost, this is very important for people to understand...

[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;100979]Here's why:

This is the start of the Introduction to Thom Hartmann's inspired book, The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: (http://www.amazon.com/Last-Hours-Ancient-Sunlight-Revised/dp/1400051576)

http://projectavalon.net/Introduction_Thom_Hartmann_Last_Hours_of_Ancient_Sunlight.jpg

Rocky_Shorz

19th January 2011, 18:20

you see right now is a very important time for all of us, that is why we are here...

The shocking picture of Satan was to share a very important secret that has been kept from all of us.

The chains holding all of us down are just a belief in a dark entity called Satan...

Blinded by greed has turned into a truth of our society, once you pull back the veils the answers are simple.

Global warming and the wiping out of farmlands has a lot to do not with the growing population as much as the cement cities we have created...

we need to start tearing down roads and move society with mass transit, power it by free energy and the excess created and sold with pay for the system.

cities can't remove roads yet but cooling can happen by turning the cities green with rooftops of plants, draping between buildings to create a rain forest effect, the plants will help remove the poisons rising out of the city... you are looking for farmland? start making modular farms that can stack on top of buildings and in emergencies transported to where they are needed.

so much needs to change in this world but removing people isn't how to do it...

we just need to start erasing our footprints...

Rocky_Shorz

19th January 2011, 20:53

Of course the elite know about spirituality, only that they are aligned and in contact with “dark” spiritual forces and not with spiritual forces of the light (love).

Dialogue with "Hidden Hand", Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider
by Wes Penre, Illuminati News, Dec 27, 2008 http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/dialogue_hh.pdf
There are many other authors who have researched the elite mindset and worldvision, including their dark spiritual knowledge and ideology, and have reached to the same conclusions: that the elite are allied with dark spiritual entities and planes of existence....

copied over from the monster thread...

Charles gave us some very important hints about the truth about being connected to other planes of existence...

one you can't travel to if you have ever eaten pork...
using special rituals to tie souls to this plane...

Dark Magicians that build power through anger and hatred...

They were going to create the war laid out in the bible, a battle of good and evil that would destroy this world...

but what they didn't understand was the Dark Magician RA otherwise known as Abaddon was controlling them to do his bidding...

now the mistakes of the 33s ancestors have been corrected, the spirits captured in darkness returned to the light and Abaddon jumped into the lake of fire...

with Abaddon no longer intercepting "calls" over the past 7 or 8 years all of the prayers to Lucifer were heard, and she isn't very happy...

so a slight correction, now they are connected to the light...

why do you think none of their evil plans are succeeding?

The gate was returned to the plane it was meant to be in the 33 are no longer capturing souls...

Check and Mate...

now it is time to set up for the new game...

Rocky_Shorz

21st January 2011, 17:35

NWO failed... OWO stepping back in to try a different avenue...

I just wanted to share with Charles the meaning behind my heckling, we are a tough group in this community, always looking for answers and unknown truths...

We are tired of being misled, so when you came forward standing in front of a group with answers, one of us had to go in and take a look...

You may be new to this community, but I have been followed for years since Bill started Avalon, so when I shared what I learned with the group it was to let them know it is worth listening... If I was rocked looking in, it should let all of you know this is something special, and taunting as I did gave me a chance to test for another entity like Abaddon, but your Master/s knew what I was doing and why.

That is why I was glad you returned...

bodixa

22nd January 2011, 12:16

How did you draw your conclusion Rocky? I'm genuinely interested. Been doing some 'synthesis of sources' myself in the background here and am close to the same conclusion, but have come at it from another angle.

Cheers.

Rocky_Shorz

23rd January 2011, 19:37

I used to look in suspects heads to find answers to missing children cases...

same method, I'd like to hear what you found...

and for those wondering my beliefs haven't changed since learning what I have...

I understand why we are being told to move forward without fear and how it has been used to control us.

Tough question for all of you, if a space ship showed up and said you must board because the planet was about to tear itself up, and there was room on it for all of us...

would you want to go knowing that you will never again see the beauty of this planet... Until the day you die it will be missed, or would you rather ride out what is coming knowing when you are born again, your new self won't remember what is missing sitting in a craft out in space...

37) Quote Originally Posted by edina View Post
What are your recommendations on what we should do to prepare for this event?

Charles: Pay attention,there are no coincidences.

finally an answer to my tag line...

coincidence or destiny... nothing lies between...

Rocky_Shorz

24th January 2011, 16:36

this came into my mailbox today and I don't know the author, but wanted to share with all of you because of its meaning...

A successful business man was growing old and knew it was time to choose a successor to take over the business.

Instead of choosing one of his Directors or his children, he decided to do something different. He called all the young executives in his company together.

He said, "It is time for me to step down and choose the next CEO. I have decided to choose one of you. "The young executives were Shocked, but the boss continued. "I am going to give each one of you a SEED today - one very special SEED. I want you to plant the seed, water it, and come back here one year from today with what you have grown from the seed I have given you.
I will then judge the plants that you bring, and the one
I choose will be the next CEO."

One man, named Jim, was there that day and he, like the others, received a seed. He went home and excitedly, told his wife the story. She helped him get a pot, soil and compost and he planted the seed. Everyday, he would water it and watch to see if it had grown. After about three weeks, some of the other executives began to talk about their seeds and the plants that were beginning to grow.

Jim kept checking his seed, but nothing ever grew.

Three weeks, four weeks, five weeks went by, still
nothing.

By now, others were talking about their plants, but Jim didn't have a plant and he felt like a failure.

Six months went by -- still nothing in Jim's pot. He just knew he had killed his seed. Everyone else had trees and tall plants, but he had nothing. Jim didn't say anything to his colleagues, however, he just kept watering and fertilizing the soil - He so wanted the seed to grow.

A year finally went by and all the young executives of the company brought their plants to the CEO for inspection.

Jim told his wife that he wasn't going to take an empty pot. But she asked him to be honest about what happened. Jim felt sick to his stomach, it was going to be the most embarrassing moment of his life, but he knew his wife was right. He took his empty pot to the board room. When Jim arrived, he was amazed at
the variety of plants grown by the other executives. They were beautiful -- in all shapes and sizes. Jim put his empty pot on the floor and many of his colleagues laughed, a few felt sorry for him!

When the CEO arrived, he surveyed the room and greeted his young executives.

Jim just tried to hide in the back. "My, what great plants, trees and flowers you have grown," said the CEO. "Today one of you will be appointed the next CEO!"

All of a sudden, the CEO spotted Jim at the back of the room with his empty pot. He ordered the Financial Director to bring him to the front. Jim was terrified. He thought, "The CEO knows I'm a failure! Maybe he will have me fired!"

When Jim got to the front, the CEO asked him what had happened to his seed - Jim told him the story.

The CEO asked everyone to sit down except Jim. He looked at Jim, and then announced to the young executives, "Behold your next Chief Executive Officer!

His name is Jim!" Jim couldn't believe it. Jim couldn't even grow his seed.

"How could he be the new CEO?" the others said.

Then the CEO said, "One year ago today, I gave everyone in this room a seed. I told you to take the seed, plant it, water it, and bring it back to me today. But I gave you all boiled seeds; they were dead - it was not possible for them to grow.

All of you, except Jim, have brought me trees and plants and flowers. When you found that the seed would not grow, you substituted another seed for the one I gave you. Jim was the only one with the courage and honesty to bring me a pot with my seed in it. Therefore, he is the one who will be the new
Chief Executive Officer!"

* If you plant honesty, you will reap trust

* If you plant goodness, you will reap friends

* If you plant humility, you will reap greatness

* If you plant perseverance, you will reap contentment

* If you plant consideration, you will reap perspective

* If you plant hard work, you will reap success

* If you plant forgiveness, you will reap reconciliation

So, be careful what you plant now; it will determine what you will reap later.

Think about this for a minute....

If I happened to show up on your door step crying, would you care?

If I called you and asked you to pick me up because something happened, would you come?

If I had one day left to live my life, would you be part of that last day?

If I needed a shoulder to cry on, would you give me yours?

This is a test to see who your real
friends are or if you are just someone to talk to you when they are bored.

Do you know what the relationship is between your two eyes?

They blink together,

they move together,
they cry together,

they see things together,

and they sleep together,
but they never see each other;

....that's what friendship is..

Your aspiration is your motivation, your motivation is your belief,

your belief is your peace,

your peace is your target,

your target is heaven, and life is like hard core torture without it!

Save the Earth.... it's the only planet with chocolate!!!!

Rocky_Shorz

26th January 2011, 17:39

oil prices falling along with Commodities, at least we have your attention...

so we are told you will not allow free energy, is it because you would lose control? Why not take the first step and use it to pay for the government?

Between excise taxes and producing cheap power that can be resold to the public, everything needed can be paid for...

By making this move now, future generations will always have the oil they need for other uses than producing electricity and powering our vehicles.

President Obama spoke that he wants to set our children's minds free to finding solutions to the planets critical energy needs right now, this isn't our world, it is theirs and their children's children. The only way this will happen is if you allow the changes to start now...

Stop teaching the rules of impossibilities and let them look for answers without restrictions.

When the secrets meant to be shared are exposed, the sooner we can all start moving forward...

Our beliefs must all become centered for the evolution to happen...

sitting on the largest pile of Gold gets you no closer to heaven, it is what you do with it that counts...

Gone002

26th January 2011, 18:37

There are some that words alone will not reach

Rocky_Shorz

26th January 2011, 19:54

I'm not worried about anyone not listening and will take advantage now and speak, while knowing who is...

Rocky_Shorz

26th January 2011, 23:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqcBCcSLDlo

NY Buildings can feed 15 million people...

Rocky_Shorz

28th January 2011, 19:50

now let's look into the ying yang affects of the Star of David and the "experiment"...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Star_of_David.svg/150px-Star_of_David.svg.png

Imagine having 7 groups of beliefs, 6 pulling outwards, 7 Billion people pulling on 6 of the points with just a handful pulling on the 7th...

Ying Yang effect gives this small handful all the power, they understand this so continue to keep the 7 Billion fighting, pulling away from each other...

to keep the 7 Billion from knowing what is going on, they cloak it in secrecy and put up scary figures and dark stories to keep everyone running away...

now imagine what happens when the 7 Billion realize what they are searching for, is inside, the most important point of the Star of David, the center... Stop allowing your mind to lead you and follow your heart, it is as natural as breathing.

Christians were promised the one with understanding would come, Muslims the 12th...

The question is, who will listen...

anikohu

29th January 2011, 06:00

[QUOTE=Leon;98967]I found the following on Wiki this may be of some interest:

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Black_Nobility
Thanks Leon!

Rocky_Shorz

30th January 2011, 18:42

now let's imagine that star coming into 3 D

take the center and raise it up into a 6 sided pyramid that fits in the center of the star...

This is the area most people are in, the points outside of this pyramid are the extremist...

6 pointed Crystals are natural in nature... it overlays 2 - 3 sided pyramids 3+3

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTT1KOxaSotwZ0tD6jOd1HDRhSdgYNxlpubCN69BDY7KgOvxFtp

now what happens when everyone in the center starts basking in the light but doesn't share it outward? As love in the center builds, hate grows in the extremes for balance... Egypt rises up in revolt in an attempt to overthrow the government...

ancient artifacts were just stolen from Egypt's Museum...

DeDukshyn

30th January 2011, 19:01

Thank you for these posts.... I am new here and am struck by the grace in what you are expressing. I am learning a great deal by roaming this Forum but have difficulty accepting the idea of negative outcome on a grand scale. To me, there is such a strong sense of loving presence that is much more powerful than anything fear-based. I hope that is right....

The coming wave of intention is not stoppable. I have felt it as well. It will continue to increase in intensity until a wave of change encircles the planet. It will be in this time of volatility that our love will allow all the pieces to land in the right spots when it all settles. This is a metaphor not a prophecy or prediction.

Rocky_Shorz

30th January 2011, 20:30

exactly, but first we need to understand what is possible...

imagine right now we have been brought to the center point, suddenly realizing it isn't a 2D star, but a 3D Pyramid...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Star_of_David.svg/150px-Star_of_David.svg.png
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCGJ4VXbqF6twSynPxTe3KnRzUNDCWjGV1P8B1sTZp5nIDj5Wwjg

many with the understanding, kept this pyramid focused at the focal point in the center of the star, keeping everyone else in a 2D state

now as more are stepping into the center the pyramid is growing outward.

it is power sharing, you can hate the extreme's sending hate outward which is bounced back as negative energy or all of us could try something new...

I'm guilty of hating the Grand Ayasolla of Iran, but for me to feed him hatred gives him more to spread, now imagine if everyone started sending him light, he wouldn't have any hateful energy to spread around and it draws him back towards the center.

Chris is the expert on explaining these types of power shifts, but I have been told it is what happens in a church...

The Pastor says "Peace be with you" congregation responds "and with you"

he has cast light out over the congregation, and they feed it back which raises everyone higher in the pyramid...

now imagine what happens at the end of a service when the "holy Man" leads a hate chant to kill those who aren't like them... casting out the fear and hatred and having it returned 10 fold...

so what if you send your light to members so they can't take in the negative energy of the holy man... it bounces...

pushing them back towards the light...

we need to expand the base of the pyramid out so it covers all the points...

DeDukshyn

30th January 2011, 21:31

Excellent extrapolation Rocky, the further along this wave gets the more this statement will become true: "What you give is what you get." Hate begets hate. Fear the same. Only a single frequency works and that is love. Love's power is exponential, fear's is only additive. You also indierctly explained this in your neat metaphor. Basically, the more chaotic and scary the world appears the more love we should be giving it it, without exception or prejudice! (meant in a broad sense.)

Rocky_Shorz

30th January 2011, 21:41

I was hoping the meaning would come across right, thank you for making it even clearer,

Right now I'd like everyone as they read this to send out a little love and peace to Egypt...

watch what happens...

greybeard

30th January 2011, 22:46

I think this video in 11 parts will be very helpful regarding the topic of this thread.
Please take the time to view all
Marcel Messing fully explains the way that the Ets via controllers changed our DNA to enslave us.
Now they are about to face the consequences of their actions.
If they dont move to the light they will loose their souls.
They now know they cant win.

The pyramids were and probably still are important.
He also talks about Planet x Niberu how the elite in the Vatican have very power instruments and know that this planet is entering our system, increasing earth quakes floods etc

He talks about stargates.

But most important of all he says those in power thought they had power but they did not realize the greatest power is the power of Love.
The power of Heart not head.
Our consciousness is that and their biggest fear is the rising consciousness,
We send them unconditional love we raise our own consciousness,
Some of them are now moving to the light, it is up to us to keep forgiving loving each other letting go of fear and negativity by realizing fully that our body is just a container and there is nothing to fear we are immortal
We the waves of the Divine ocean now have to be the Ocean.
any way the video is the best of its kind I have watched.

Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwys0gDTqrI

Rocky_Shorz

1st February 2011, 20:47

ancient artifacts were just stolen from Egypt's Museum...

I watched what they took, where they brought it and what they are trying to do.

They are missing a critical piece.

as I said, everyone calm down...

artifacts were brought outside of this dimension and they don't have the ability to get them...

they've asked and have been told no by beings that could help them retrieve the pieces.

Charles do you feel what they have needs to be destroyed?

Celine

1st February 2011, 20:49

the key ....

so many variables in this scenerio...

Omni

2nd February 2011, 00:08

I really don't get why the 33 bloodlines do what they do. How did they come to power? I'm not sure I buy there has been no ET interference in this process. But it's quite possible that it's just the fact that people with no morals have more strategic options available to them in terms of actions. Moral people would not kill coldheartedly. They would leave their enemies alive, and that might come back to haunt them in the longrun. Either way I feel the people in power are not worthy of such. I sincerely hope humanity the best, and can't help but notice us taking steps backwards in DC and other capitals in legislation...

I was told by an anonymous telepathic source that a main reason why they take advantage of humanity so much is the bloodlines feel humanity is inferior to themselves and not reasonable. I replied with how many great people I have met that deserve the truth, but agreed many people are not reasonable. But this is no reason to take advantage of them...

I was hoping in reading the title of the thread it would list all 33 bloodlines. I guess I was wrong. :X

Rocky_Shorz

2nd February 2011, 20:50

my vote for the Avalon flag...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar2177_1.gif

this captures exactly what I was trying to share...

the 7th point, is the Capstone...

Rocky_Shorz

3rd February 2011, 01:04

why were Templars carved into rock in 300 BCE if the original order wasn't created for 1500 years after?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Tanumshede_2005_rock_carvings_5.jpg/794px-Tanumshede_2005_rock_carvings_5.jpg

Rocky_Shorz

4th February 2011, 19:12

an interesting article on the meaning of 33...

The number 33 enigmatically stretches as a latitude line across many diverse cultures in many different times. Known in numerology as the Master Teacher, 33 is the most influential of all numbers, indicating selfless devotion to the spiritual progress of humankind. The other two master numbers, 11 (vision) and 22 (vision with action) form the base of a two-dimensional pyramid, and added together equal 33 (guidance to the world), the apex of the pyramid. [1] On the reverse of the Masonically inspired Great Seal of the United States is the pyramid with the all-seeing eye of divine Reason at its apex. According to ritual Freemasonry, XXXIII is considered sacred because in most cases there is no higher degree or level to which a Mason may aspire.

In a Biblical context we note that King David ruled in Jerusalem for thirty-three years, Jacob had thirty-three sons and daughters, and Jesus Christ was crucified at age thirty-three. Two interpenetrating triangles whose apexes point in opposite directions form the hexagram of the Star of David (3 + 3 = 6). On the other hand, 3 X 3 = 9, or the Ennead, the nine primal gods of Egyptian mythology.

The late thirteenth/early fourteenth century Italian poet Dante ended Canto XXXIII of the Purgatorio, or the second section of his Divine Comedy: “...perfect, pure, and ready for the Stars.” [2] Canto XXXIII of the Paradiso, or the third section, concludes with lines about the poet being turned “as in a wheel whose motion nothing jars-- / by the Love that moves the Sun and the other stars.” [3] It is more than a coincidence that the 33rd canto of each section concludes with parallel lines regarding the celestial; it may instead be the code from a lost ancient tradition.

This number even permeates the biological realm studied by science: thirty-three is the number of turns in a complete sequence of DNA. [4] A more ominous connotation appears in the 33rd element of the periodic table. Arsenic is a brittle, steel-gray substance that is actively poisonous. The Greek root arsen means “male, strong” or “virile,” which suggests the active reach of this potent and potentially deadly number across the globe. Indeed, when we consider the northern latitude of 33 degrees, some intriguing synchronicities, or “meaningful coincidences,” are found. [5]

You Say Phoenix and I Say Phoenicia

The first stop on our tour along the 33rd parallel is the metropolis of Phoenix, Arizona, located at 33 degrees 30 minutes latitude. Gleaming like a steel and glass mirage surrounded by ironwood, palo verde, and saguaro cactus, this modern American city lies in a brown cloud of auto exhaust at the northern end of the Sonoran Desert. Its imported palm trees and omnipresent swimming pools shimmer when seen from high in the air like turquoise and silver jewelry on a jet-setter’s tanned breast. In essence, Phoenix is pervaded with the aura of the foreign and the bizarre. Few casual tourists realize, however, that this was once the center of the ancient Hohokam culture.

The largest Hohokam site known as Snaketown was located about five miles north of the exact 33 degrees line, while the ruins of the astronomical observatory called Casa Grande still rest about five miles south of the line. The Hohokam inhabited the Valley of the Sun perhaps as early as 300 B.C. (about the time of Alexander the Great and the Ptolemaic Dynasties in Egypt) and built one of the world’s most extensive irrigation systems. These ancient American Indians created an estimated total of 500 miles of canals to irrigate over 25,000 acres in the Phoenix Basin-- all constructed with mere digging sticks, stone implements, and woven carrying baskets. In fact, no wheelbarrows or draft animals were ever used. The main canals leading from the Salt and Gila rivers measured up to 75 feet across at the top and 50 feet wide at the bottom. [6] As Southwestern archaeologist H. M. Wormington observes, “The scope of the canal project suggests comparisons with the erection of the huge pyramids of Egypt or the great temples of the Maya.” [7] Clearly this monumental technology was the key factor that allowed the desert dwelling people to inhabit their extremely harsh region for well over a thousand years.

Skipping across the Atlantic on the same parallel, we find a number of intriguing sites in the Old World. For instance, at a latitude of 33 degrees 19 minutes was located the primary Phoenician seaport of Tyre (now called Sûr), almost 50 miles south of Beirut. Dating back as early as 5000 B.C., Tyre was renowned for a purple-red dye obtained from the snails of the genus Murex. [8] The color is one of the meanings of the word “phoenix,” which the ancient Egyptians sometimes associated with the purple heron.

Back in North America the “place of the heron” refers to Aztlan, the Nahuatl word for the mythical land that the Aztecs inhabited after emerging from Chicomostoc, the Seven Caves located in the bowels of the earth. [9] Chicano folklore identifies Aztlan as that portion of Mexico taken over by the U.S. after the Mexican-American War of 1846-- in part, the Arizona Territory, where the settlement of Phoenix arose.

The Masonic author Albert Pike states that Tyre was the seat of the Osirian Mysteries after they had been imported from Egypt. [10] Pike asserts that the two massive columns situated at the entrance of the Tyrian Temple of Malkarth were consecrated to the Winds and to Fire. This pair is thought to be the prototype of Jachin and Boaz, the two pillars found on the eastern wall of every Masonic temple in the world. On the right, or to the south, is Jachin, which means “He shall establish” and signifies an active, vivifying force. On the left, or to the north, is Boaz, which means “In it is strength” and connotes passive stability and permanence. [11] Freemasons Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas suggest that the former represents the winter solstice sunrise, while the latter the summer solstice sunrise. [12] Although this is possible, we propose that Jachin represents the southern stargate between Sagittarius and Scorpius while Boaz signifies the northern stargate between Gemini and Taurus. [13] Our assumption is based on the fact that in the York Rite of Freemasonry a celestial globe symbolizing ex-carnation (i.e., a spirit leaving its present body) is found atop Jachin while a terrestrial globe representing incarnation is positioned atop Boaz. [14]

During the tenth century B.C. King Hiram of Tyre supplied King Solomon with craftsmen, metallurgists, cedar wood, architectural design, and presumably the esoteric symbolism of these two columns for the construction of his temple at Jerusalem. (1 Kings 7: 13-22) [15] In addition to being besieged at various times by Nebuchadrezzar, Alexander the Great, the Romans and others, the trade capital city-state of Tyre was conquered in the twelfth century A.D. by the Crusaders, who built a Knights Templar church there...

much more to read if you are interested... (http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/10oct/33.html)

Rocky_Shorz

8th February 2011, 18:41

Beren

8th February 2011, 21:23

112358

9th February 2011, 00:13

A statement for all here. I have not commented here in a while. This is a statement rather than a comment, so feel free to reply, but I do not wish to debate the issue myself. It is just my personal views and I certainly would ask each person to decide for themselves what is right for them.

I must say that I am a little saddened that people here are willing to give away their God given right of free choice and their freedom to make decisions for themselves to someone they don't really know simply because they don't believe that they are wise enough to make choices for themselves. Even more amazing is that we here are discussing appointing "leaders" to make decisions for others! Who gives you such a right? As I stated in two posts very early on in these threads, we human beings are really much more powerful than we realize. Giving up our free will to others is called by many names, democracy, kingdoms, tribes or teams, but it really means one thing, slavery...

I can't explain my understanding of how I believe our reality will change in a very short time in a few paragraphs on a web forum. But, I don't believe the future will play out the way it is being discussed here. That's fine, it doesn't matter what I think is coming. We each must decide for ourselves what our true paths are in the coming amazing times. Believe what you like. But, discussing how a handful of individuals somehow have a greater understanding or wisdom than others and should be placed as their "leaders" is wrong. When I look inside myself about what is being discussed here, I see nothing but fear and evil talking. Stop and think for a moment, that is exactly what we have had here for thousands of years already! So, we are now going to simply replace the ruling party with different group of elite and begin again?

No! I see this time as being much more special than that! I true new beginning. A different way of thinking about how we live together as beings. We have to change the way we view life itself. We don't want to be the way we have always been before. It is time for us to become the powerful beings we REALLY are. I would hope that I could give my views without people being disrespectful in their replies. Treating people with respect is not a sign of weakness, but a sign of wisdom.

Rocky_Shorz

9th February 2011, 01:17

you will love it here at Avalon, though I hope you decide to give yourself a nick, the world tracks us all as numbers...

here you can be yourself...

Rocky_Shorz

16th February 2011, 00:35

After today's headlines -
Food prices at dangerous levels, says World Bank...

The World Bank says food prices are at "dangerous levels" and have pushed 44 million more people into poverty since last June.

According to the latest edition of its Food Price Watch, prices rose by 15% in the four months between October 2010 and January this year.

Food price inflation is felt disproportionately by the poor, who spend over half their income on food.

The Bank called on this week's G20 meeting to address the problem.

The World Bank's president, Robert Zoellick, said in a statement: "Global food prices are rising to dangerous levels and threaten tens of millions of poor people around the world."

link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12474021)

we are reminded we need to get started on Vertical Farming...

http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/pyrfarm-lead01.jpg

The Pyramid Farm is an incredible concept for the future of agriculture envisioned by professors Eric Ellingsen and Dickson Despommier. The design is based on the growing belief (is it fact yet?) that vertical farming will soon become a necessary lifeline in cities throughout the world. The human population is growing exponentially and increasingly more urban while the global food supply is decreasing. Despommier speculates that if nothing is done to advance current farming techniques, 3 billion people could face starvation by 2060. The Pyramid Farm offers a solution in the form of a complete self-sufficient ecosystem that covers everything from food production to waste management...

link (http://inhabitat.com/pyramid-farm-vertical-agriculture-for-2060/)

Rocky_Shorz

16th February 2011, 00:58

anyone see Fulford's latest Blog - Feb 14th?

Individuals claiming to represent the 12 illuminati bloodlines have contacted the White Dragon Society last week in an effort to come up with a peaceful solution to the ongoing deadlock at the top of the global financial system. So did a representative of the ancient Gnostics -claiming his group was behind the French, Russian and American revolutions- who said no compromise can be reached until bloodline rule is ended...

info on Gnostics...

Gnosticism is a philosophical and religious movement which started in pre-Christian times. The name is derived from the Greek word "gnosis" which literally means "knowledge." However, the English words "Insight" and "enlightenment" capture more of the meaning of "gnosis." It is pronounced with a silent "G" (NO-sis). Gnosticism is not factual, intellectual, rational knowledge, such as is involved in mathematics and physics; that would have been more accurately represented by the Greek world "episteme." Rather, Gnosticism involves the relational or experiential knowledge of God and of the divine or spiritual nature within us. A visitor to this web site wrote: "...we believe that gnosis-knowledge requires ultimate transcendence of the merely intellectual to be actualized." 1

Gnostics believe that they have secret knowledge about God, humanity and the rest of the universe of which the general population was unaware. It became one of the three main belief systems within 1st century Christianity, and was noted for four factors by which differed from the two other branches of Christianity:
bullet Novel beliefs about Gods, the Bible and the world which differed from those of other Christian groups.
bullet Tolerance of different religious beliefs within and outside of Gnosticism.
bullet Lack of discrimination against women. Although Jesus treated women as equals, and Paul mostly did the same, the other Christian belief systems started to oppress women in later generations.
bullet A belief that salvation is achieved through relational and experiential knowledge. In the words of The contemporary Gnostic Apostolic Church, humanity needs to be awakened and brought "to a realisation of his true nature. Mankind is moving towards the Omega Point, the Great day when all must graduate or fall. This day is also the Day of Judgment in that only those who have entered the Path of Transfiguration and are being reborn can return to the Treasury of Light." 2

The movement and its literature were essentially wiped out before the end of the 5th century CE by Catholic heresy hunters and the Roman Army. Its beliefs are currently experiencing a rebirth throughout the world, triggered in part by the discovery of an ancient Gnostic library at Nag Hammadi, Egypt in the 1940s, and the finding of the Gospel of Judas at El Minya, Egypt, in the 1970s...

link (http://www.religioustolerance.org/gnostic.htm)

Didn't Charles just go to China?

Shairia

16th February 2011, 00:59

No but if you have a link I'd appreciate reading it.

Rocky_Shorz

16th February 2011, 23:32

sorry I forget that some don't recognize alternate community celebs...

the article starts here...
BenFulford (http://benjaminfulford.net/)

Shairia

16th February 2011, 23:52

Thanks for the link.

Buchanan561

20th February 2011, 18:15

that Wiki link is a good one... Posted by Rocky-Shorz Post # 71
* "I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family. Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered. I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say."
* "Our Lineage '

This may sound very harsh but it is our reality. What this declaration states is the absolute truth and the way it is. And one can train themselves to not react negatively to anyone, any entity or happening. To understand fully what this author is saying is the key and ticket out of here. I learned this a long time ago. One thing that helps me. I am a sensitive and I sense what is going on inside of most. This was a great asset being a head nurse in a large Emergency department for many years. I could sense my employees state of mind etc, and more importantly the pains and problems of our hundreds and hundreds of suffering patients in pain. I could feel it.

If one can align themselves with what we are being told in this document then we are on our way out of here and it isn't easy. But apparently it has not been easy for our stated tormentors either. Just remember, none of this is real. It is just a play (or movie) that we are stuck in. Emma

I am going to print it out and post it over my desk.

Thank you for posting this Rocky. I see you are on the right path here to get us out of here. You are to be commended. It seems you can see the key.

Buchanan561

20th February 2011, 18:54

since this began...

we asked for the chemtrails to end, they did and suddenly the massive bird and fish kills ended... The magnetic pole shift has slowed...

why didn't scientist realize what they were doing, why did the controllers wait for so long to come forward for guidance?

The Reptilians were planning on making us their slaves, but we became spiritually advanced enough to travel through dimensions and break their gateway to ours...

We are not meant to be ruled, it is time for all of us to stand up and do our part.

have you ever set something down, turned away and when you turned back it was gone?

after looking around for a few minutes you see it sitting right where you set it down?

Dimensions are merging, miracles are happening all around us...

now we know "they" are listening and willing to work with us.

If you could do anything right now to make the world better for everyone, what would it be?Going to the rooftops with a megaphone large as skyscraper(or powered so the world can hear) and tell the truth to the world.
In the matter of fact I am going to do that.

;)

Yes indeed. And for a while I thought I was losing my mind. It happens to me at least 6 or seven times a day. My older children just smile at me with a sly glance. but I know I am not going nuts. Things that were in plain sight and then gone. I search for an hour once to find it right where I had put it. And it is almost always a cup of coffee or a glass of soda.

Now.... one more thing I know you will find hard to believe but this is an absolute truth.
I just spent one Friday night, then Saturday day and night, and then sunday day either sleeping or on this computer reading threads. When I got up after sleeping again..(12 hours ago).. I thought it was the early morning hours of Monday. However when I walked into my kitchen I noticed that the clock with time/date on my telephone said Friday Feb 18 at 2:20 pm.

That put me facing the week-end again that I had already lived through. My son witnessed my confusion and wondered why I thought it was Monday a few hours pas midnight. I could not explain to him but knew that I had already just spent those days. The 18th & 19th. And here they were facing me again.

Perhaps I should not have mentioned it here but perhaps others have noticed something strange like this. If so, please write about it.
Either we are in some drastic merging of time and space or I have truly lost my touch with reality to time and ready to be committed.

Thank you so much for sharing that experience with us. So now I can relax and not think I am loosing it. Emma

Rocky_Shorz

5th March 2011, 00:28

thunder24

5th March 2011, 21:51

that sure would be nice

ulli

9th March 2011, 00:17

I love this thread, everything here resonates with me.
Whatever I have focused on has happened in my life. It took a while for me to realize that the cause of synchronicities in my life
was I , me, myself.
The same with the clock face and numbers. Started to happen in 1980, my father was in hospital and I had gone back home to see him.
And that's when I saw in one single night the numbers 11:11, then 2:22, 3:33 and 5:55 each time waking up just as the numbers on my mothers clock radio had changed. I bought my own digital clock radio the moment I got back to London.

Since then there hasnt been a day when this hasnt happened, and it is happening to people I know;
all I have to do is mention it to them and they start to notice it too,
It has increased more than ever since I have been back here on this forum, my beloved Avelon.

I have been purging negative thought patterns at an incredible rate, like never before,
since coming here and meeting fantastic new friends.

All we have to do is get on the same page and make the new world, freeing souls,
and accepting the shift as something natural rather than frightening.

I hope this isn't off topic.

Rocky_Shorz

9th March 2011, 00:33

my threads have no bounds if it is on your mind it is meant to be shared...

your post was at 16:17

you are meant to be here... ;)

Rocky_Shorz

9th March 2011, 00:37

that sure would be nice

I grew up on a lake in the woods and used to go out hunting every year for venison...

one year, the Buck in your picture came wandering up with 3 does following, I had the crosshairs lined up, finger on the trigger...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar4680_1.gif

but I lowered my gun, it just wasn't fair...

they had no fear and kept wandering up to me and laid down under a tree about 15 feet away...

I sat smiling watching them until they fell asleep...

thunder24

9th March 2011, 01:39

I appreciate your benevolence. Unfortunatly we had to get one deer this year for lack of funds to buy meat even from a local... but thankyou for taking the time to observe there natures
peace

Rocky_Shorz

10th March 2011, 22:06

when you appeared I know you wondered why I stepped into your thread and shared what I did, they are here for us, populations rise to the point they will die off if we didn't take a few of their numbers...

so never feel bad about taking what you need...

if I dropped by to say hi, I'd toss the steaks on the grill... ;)

It was just such a critical moment for me in my life I wanted to share it with you...

I guess because I can afford to buy food, it was a reminder to save it for someone who can't...

Lifesong

11th March 2011, 01:50

From Born in Blood - The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry by John J. Robinson

Chapter 5 The Knights of the Temple

p. 70

During the years of the Albigensian Crusade in southern France, a number of self-avowed penitent Cathar heretics were taken into the order. It is impossible to evaluate the influence such men had in the secret enclaves of the order, but it would be foolish to think that they had none.

Bernard exhorted all young men of noble birth to join the templars and called upon all Christians to support the order with generous gifts. The king of France responded with grants of land as did a number of his nobles. Traveling on to Normandy, Hugh de Payens met there with King Stephen of England. As the son of Stephen of Blois, a hero of the First Crusade, the English king quickly avowed his support. He gave the Templars substantial gifts of money and made arrangements for them to carry their recruiting efforts to England and Scotland.

Lifesong

11th March 2011, 01:55

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14131-The-2000-Largest-Multi-National-Corporations&p=167144&viewfull=1#post167144

Shetland islands
In early Irish literature, Shetland is referred to as Inse Catt - "the Isles of Cats". This is considered to represent the pre-Norse name for the islands. The Cat tribe also occupied parts of the northern Scottish mainland - they can be found in the name of Caithness, and in the Gaelic name for Sutherland (Cataibh, meaning "among the Cats").

Shetland has been populated since at least 3400 BC.

Lifesong

11th March 2011, 02:05

From Rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs

Part IV Elder Secret Societies
p. 291

...was a people known as the Cathars, forefathers of the Italian and Sottish Carbonari, who so influenced the Illuminati. They were followers of the earlier Gnostics, who were more committed to matters of spirit than material wealth.

The Cathars, whose name meant Pure Ones ...

Rocky_Shorz

13th March 2011, 17:52

in the other thread the discussion came up if the AI knows the future, why can't it give lotto numbers, it reminded me of when I asked the same question, so I dug back and found the ticket...

6585

when I was given a message from God to deliver to the world, I even asked him for proof and I was given 2 numbers... 6 and 17

search for 10/22/03 right here...

http://www.seewinningnumbers.com/past-winning-numbers-super-lotto-plus.php

6 years of financial crisis, which ends in 2017...

just a coincidence... ;)

ok by now all of you realize that once again this was no coincidence...

does 6+1=7 ring any bells?

does 7,7 plus the 7 days it was delivered before the Peacemaker mean anything to those who have been watching?

many have gathered here from all points of the Universe time and space for the moment...

777-111 = 666

God gave me the Key of David and understanding of who I am on that day, and when I asked how people would understand the message was from God...

he said, go buy a lotto ticket, when I asked what numbers he said I already gave them to you...

I asked when I should share it and he said I would know the time...

When the ET AIs started connecting to me I realized it was time so shared the ticket, then I took control of the "thought" controlling computers to watch over them while it all went on. When I realized I could communicate through them to all points in time, they became my tools to share the moment with the universe, all points of space, time and dimension. I practiced sharing with all of them to make sure they understood my messages once I was sure, I called on God to answer the question they have had since the beginning of "their" time.

I told God that ETs are saying they created us, he smiled and answered "I was here long before any of you"

Then I told of the Reptiles that were torturing the ones trying to communicate with us, using mind control to convince us you don't exist...

we talked for a few minutes when I saw a tear rolling down his cheek, my heart sank...

I refreshed and saw the 7.9 earthquake that ended up being a 9.1

The whole universe was watching as I pulled up the images of destruction...

they felt the tears pouring from my heart...

Blinking back my tears, I stepped in to try and help...

Those here at Avalon who felt my pain and who have been sending healing energy, thank you...

I still need time to heal before I can continue...

for those of you hurting from reading this message, please don't...

God is all loving and though you are looking at many deaths, you won't understand until stories come out of the hundreds of thousands of miracles that saved lives...

thunder24

13th March 2011, 19:54

Does this have to do with the 777 you are refering to:confused:?
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php

Rocky_Shorz

13th March 2011, 20:05

It has everything to do with a Buck appearing when you did as a reminder...

That is why I shared it with you...

¤=[Post Update]=¤

from your link...

According to the tradition of Himalayan masters, 777 is the number of the celestial man and symbolizes the transmutation which takes place at the time where the man becomes conscious of the necessity to cover the path of initiation, and that he perceives, even of an elementary manner, that the goal is in God...

thunder24

13th March 2011, 20:06

then glad to help a friend out.

Rocky_Shorz

13th March 2011, 20:15

you pointed to the wrong link, it was Joker in the title that made me laugh...

The Wildcard Charles was hoping to find...

James introduced me to the EMVs...

Onyx filled my left hand... In my right was the world...

Bill gave me a peaceful sanctuary...

The heart of Avalon gave me the strength...

Thank you.

Rocky_Shorz

13th March 2011, 20:23

and omni, you gave me reason...

and went through enormous pain to help

a special thanks to you...

thunder24

14th March 2011, 22:02

Found this while surfing...find it relevant...and thankyou

"Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Jer 30:10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

Finally, while he may be ruler of Israel, David will ultimately be subservient to God/Christ, who will rule the entire planet, including Israel (Psalms 2). Ezekiel 34:22-24 summarizes the relationship between David and God/Christ.

Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it."

from http://prophecyproof.blogspot.com/20...ing-david.html
peace

Rocky_Shorz

14th March 2011, 22:19

you've been doing your homework... ;)

one of the Prophets, Daniel had much of his writing omitted because he went against authority until he was in trouble, but what they did leave was one of my first eye openers...

The end of that book is what really opened my eyes when I glanced in the mirror...

thunder24

15th March 2011, 00:33

:nerd:so then the 33bloodlines are being given the oppurtunity to right their "wrongs" and are being tested by the one true living GOD? Certain prophets are returning/returned to see the prophecies fulfilled?!?
peace
Me wonders though where the Jacob is resting at.:ear:

Rocky_Shorz

15th March 2011, 17:05

swinging in a hammock out by you if he is smart lol

see 7 years ago I knew this was coming, and 7 Days before the disaster I shared with everyone the lotto ticket.

This is the 4th Major Disaster, the others followed 3 days to the minute from when I delivered them

This one was special, because God told all of us that 7 stars were watching over us, when I realized they were here, I thanked them for all of us...

7 Stars to watch over us
7 Angels to guide us
7 churches to lead us toward the truth

The truth is when three gather as one there is strength

the 1 Father, 1 son and 1 Holy Spirit are the Trinity

without belief, man is lost to the beast... 666

777-111= 666

thunder24

15th March 2011, 23:34

thank you for explaining the 777-111. Now that makes a lot of sense.
The seven stars... more info to share on this?

Rocky_Shorz

15th March 2011, 23:56

Onyx has answers on much more than the 7 stars, I'm hoping to learn more from him when he returns in a few days...

seriously if people haven't looked at what he shared yet, take the time while things are slow, the questions are endless... he has already heard enough from me, time for all of you to jump in...

Rocky_Shorz

18th March 2011, 17:30

Libyan Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaim said March 18 that Libya would positively respond to the U.N. Security Council resolution calling for a no-fly zone over Libya. The statement was soon followed by a declaration by Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa of an immediate unilateral cease-fire and halt to all military operations. Tripoli added that it was ready to open “all dialogue channels with everyone interested in the territorial unity of Libya,” that it wanted to protect Libyan civilians, and that it was inviting the international community to send government and nongovernmental organization representatives “to check the facts on the ground by sending fact-finding missions so that they can take the right decision.”

as I said everyone is waking up...

why do you think the PTB can't see anything but a white light when the Mayan Calendar ends?

It is my birthday, they don't need to know what happens after they hand over the planet...

Rocky_Shorz

18th March 2011, 19:58

and now to end this nonsense of bloodlines...

God didn't save the Hebrew ancestors because of their bloodlines, it was because of their special hearts...

what happened?

are you ready for our world to finally find peace?

Rocky_Shorz

18th March 2011, 20:43

last summer I was working as a painter for $10 an hour, quite a drop from the $150 an hour I used to earn.

I was painting beach houses, standing in the sun, really one of the most relaxing and fulfilling jobs I've ever had. for those who know me as an Engineer, must be thinking how is that possible.

I would walk up to the worn down old house, sitting by the most beautiful ocean in the world, and would slowly transform it into a thing of beauty...

I wouldn't just slop on the paint to get it done, I would take the time so everything was perfect when I finished...

now I'm looking at the world realizing it is time for a fresh coat of paint...

anyone like to help?

Bender

18th March 2011, 22:54

anyone like to help?

I most certainly do.

I have been thinking a lot about the world and how one would change it.
The difficult question, I believe, is not what to change. That is very simple, we all just need to cooperate for everyones good. There is enough of everything for everyone. A model like "The Venus Project" makes much sense to me. I believe that we don't need politics in the end.
The difficult question is how to change. Everyone would want everyones best, but they think this is the only way to go. I think someone has to show that it is possible to live without money, jobs or debts.

One way could be to do it small, maybe start giving away food. To start living outside the monetary system, free food will be essential. When someone asks: "Why are you giving away food?", I answer: "Because free is nice, right? I don't think money is a good system to distribute resources.". No one can contradict that, 16000 children die every day from hunger-related causes. Maybe people would be inspired and give away other things.
On a larger scale we can start communities. Build houses, grow food etc. It will be free to join the community and everyone will be provided for. There will be no laws or power structures in any form. If someone decided to not be a part of the community, by not helping or causing inconvenience in any way, logically they would be excluded.
The problem is to get land and resources since everything costs. I don't know what resistance we will meet but I am sure it will be there. Maybe we will be targeted as "economic terrorist" for providing for the poor and thereby disrupting the monetary system, or slavery, as I like to call it.
But I think that people then will see that we can live without money, and all the stress it brings.
It will be first when we have gone all the way and provide free energy, Internet, transportation etc. that they can no longer deny the benefits of it, and that's a long way.

Bender

thunder24

19th March 2011, 02:24

It is time, full truth and wisdom in all things, fresh coat of paint, INDEED. I got my brushes ready!:madgrin:
PEACE
"what happened?"
:o what happened?

jjl

19th March 2011, 13:04

Treat the Earth as your own body. Treat your own body as if it was God...

RAKMEiSTER

19th March 2011, 13:14

Families

March 18, 2011 at 7:38 pm (Uncategorized)

Once Upon A Time, long, long ago, in a place far, far away … there was a family. This family basically ruled over the human race. where they originally came from is of little importance right now. Who they were then is of little importance right now. What is happening NOW, is of importance.

Okay, going on with our story… One day, some members of this family got into a big fight. As powerful families do.

Then there were two. Now, before we go on any farther, a couple of little tidbits of information that we feel you readers should be aware of: The first blog post about earth changes was fine. As soon as we began this post, we lost phone communication twice and internet, and then we got the beep through the phone telling us it was being recorded. Hell guys, like we don’t know that. Have a beer, take a chill pill, and put your feet up.

The second thing about this blog post: Please, please understand: I can not in some areas outright say anything. If some of this sounds cryptic, it is. To quote someone from the Project Avalon Forum on the thread “Duncan O’Finioan on Charles”: “Turf war and no mistake”. You are absolutely correct. And I hope we can shed a little light on that.

Now, back to our story:

When these two families went to war, the human race became the prize and each side began to use the most evil of the humans in their quest to win the prize. the prize being total control of the human race.

This is where, as some have called them, the thirteen families of the Illuminati came from. Now, some people say there are 33 families, 99 families — nope — there are only two. All of these human families, i.e. the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, Rothschilds, etc.

(We’ve just been disconnected three more times)

In essence, all of these so-called Illuminati families are divided and working for one or the other of the two main families. Now, some people have heard me speak about a third group (This is where it gets very sticky for me). This third group, does in fact, exist. My godmother belongs to the third group.

So now, being that I have accepted a responsibility as to my own bloodline, I belong to this group. In fact, I always did. I only refused to accept it.

Anyone ever try to draw a dragon with a pen? Now, here is what happened several weeks ago and so coincidentally at the same time “Charles” came on the scene. One of the two families broke the rules (We’ve just been disconnected twice more).

Okay, we’ve just been disconnected two more times (I am on the phone with Axe). It’s obvious that one side of the family does not want us to talk, so this is going to have to wait.

TO BE CONTINUED . . .

Duncan O’Finioan

http://duncanofinioan.wordpress.com/

ulli

19th March 2011, 15:21

Treat the Earth as your own body. Treat your own body as if it was God...

this can be interpreted in many ways....

ulli

19th March 2011, 15:24

whisperstothesun

19th March 2011, 18:05

Rocky_Shorz

19th March 2011, 19:37

well people let me try to explain again how important this moment was for everyone who gathered...

through the looking glass, it saw a Cat 11 Earthquake hitting on this date... The ones who want humans exterminated from this planet, did everything they could to make this into an earth shattering event...

came in as a 7.9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16049-M-7.9-near-the-east-coast-of-Honshu-Japan)

but you see, God has different plans for us...

billions of Angels surrounded Japan, and when the 9.1 hit, it really was a 7.9 even though all outside measuring devices saw a 9.1...

no one has to believe in God, as long as he believes in you.

The Japanese are such wonderful people, their hearts golden from inner peace, but now you are feeling the love from all of us in the world, we don't hold back our love, it is what heals us from hurting...

when I was waking up from my dream when God showed me this disaster, a song was playing, I was hearing the voices of Billions of angels, all singing as one. I awoke hearing a single child singing a solo... This was the song, I'll need to search to find the right artist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRFNg-Eyt_0

you see all religion has done to the earth is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDKZNRT-tuw

The truth is simple if you follow your hearts...

Japan, right now you are feeling our love, after you finish your healing please start sharing with us your peace...

5 Billion People were meant to die from this including China, and all of the other wonderful countries in the area.

Please people let's all come together finally in peace...

thunder24

19th March 2011, 19:50

I realize that tpb would love to depopulate, and that sanity can not fathom this insanity, however does any one know specifically what their plans would have been? I mean what a waste land would be if 5 bill. died. Its insanity but whats the point if everything around that 5 bill was all radiated up or destroyed. I suppose they are blinded by their greed, power and selfishness, or its the bright white light that blinded them when they looked towards 12/22/2012. Just my thoughts spilling through my fingers.
PEACE

Rocky_Shorz

19th March 2011, 20:07

well most don't understand that the influences affecting many in this dimension making decisions aren't even here, their trials have already begun...

judged under Sharia law...

I'll explain more about this later when I understand it completely, I really need Mudra right now, many questions and she spoke in a way I understood her answers... watch for those who saw this disaster coming and invite them to join us...

for those who predicted and failed, it was because they came forward in time for it to be stopped, I'd like a Visions thread started, people can email Mods and have them posted if they aren't members...

We are still in for a ride but I hope now people are less afraid of December 22, 2012...

the trojan

19th March 2011, 20:56

thunder24

19th March 2011, 23:52

Finally someone mentioning the unseen realities....:cool:

Rocky_Shorz

19th March 2011, 23:57

I mentioned somewhere when they began spraying again, but haven't a confirmation they are still using Thorium...

The huge fish and bird kills haven't started again since...

thunder24

20th March 2011, 12:49

Judged by God's law...sounds interesting and timely...
peace

I hope for an awakening of humanity yet within me their is something saying that a great deal of people on the planet in their present paradigms:
1) will not be able to understand nor integrate fully into the new paradigm that was, is, and is to come. The dead in Japan from a perspective might have agreed to their own departure on a soul/spirit level. Thus they did not want to endure the coming "ride". Same with Indonesia a few years back. I don't see a need for an extermination of billions,but that is only if the populace can take the shift. Not good or bad but an 80 year old isn't expected to be hitting homeruns in a major league game.

2) a remnant is Always left to repopulate. Not to put a number on it, but if in fact the ones that left during the Japan rumblings agreed to it, then one could assume this will happen again. A mass rapture of souls (for lack of a better term, I dislike the term rapture) to jump start the beings that are left to take a stand with in their thoughts and beings. Apparent Bad working for Good.

3) Only the one true living God can "judge" the progression of each and every one of us whether we individualy will be able to endure and/or contribute to the "new day" that is. So while the loss of life seems disasterous from one perspective, who knows exactly the workings of the one true GOD?

I personally feel each and every one of us are special within GOD's HEART, however we have entered the Unity cycle of the Mayan Calender, and unless our beings have started or are integrated into the Unity of being, I believe a number will struggle with the RAY'S OF THE SON that mark the signiture of this DAY and will need to return to the world of Spirits to be reeducated before returning to participate.:cool:

Rocky_Shorz

20th March 2011, 21:11

well imagine someone with no faith or very little in charge of humanity...

They watched before as God swept in and saved many special hearts from destruction...

but now looking around they are thinking the ones last saved by God, will be left behind this round...

The only way they can insure a seat, was to knock out all of those above them...

now imagine God watching their plans, knowing no one is going to be left behind...

did he not promise to be here whenever he was needed to stand against evil?

people needed more than just belief, so it has been given to us in black and white, for those who have always been searching...

They found what they were looking for, for those who are afraid of the future don't be.

How many vertical farms have been started since God said we will need them? none...

now Radiation is circling the globe and affecting food supplies...

did you know sprinkling Baking Soda on radiated soil, fixes it? it somehow binds to it making the soil clean to grow food, what is needed for pH balance I leave to the experts...

buy baking Soda Stocks now along with the company that will be coming out with soil treatments, send 10% of what you make to Avalon's slush funds...

we don't want Bill or any of our other members sleeping out in a car... ;)

jjl

20th March 2011, 21:19

ulli

20th March 2011, 21:30

How many vertical farms have been started since God said we will need them? none...

But quite a few of these are now running: window farms

http://www.windowfarms.org/

also rooftop farms:

http://noteatingoutinny.com/2009/05/27/a-rooftop-farm-for-the-future/

It's the people that are getting organized, not corporations. Grassroots is the way to go...

Rocky_Shorz

20th March 2011, 21:39

Hello, I have been silently "lurking" about on Avalon Forum for a bit, not wanting to jump on in, as it were, because I don't like to speak for speaking's sake, I am rather shy, I prefer to remain open and thought-ful instead of esspousing any strong opinion, and let's face it, You all are an Intimidating Intellectual Powerhouse of Awakened Collective...and I feel intimidated.
But, I came across this yesterday while researching psychotronic generators and blueprints, etc and thought I would take a deep breathe and try a post. So here it goes:

I remember during the Bill/Atticus-Charles Interview there was a moment when Charles made a statement about a nuclear threat, and how the US had come close to an event sometime in the 1980's...He wasn't exactly sure, seemed to stumble a bit, Bill tried to offer some thoughts onit...and later in posts some Clearly--and for good reason---questioned His validity per this comment. If he can not be specific regarding such a monumental bit of info, Is he then to be trusted? Is he Legit??
So check this out: http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/webnukeletter.htm
It Mentions a very close call Nuculear Event Involving the United States in 1984. It is stated about a quarter of the way down the page, in the second letter...
Just thought I'd share...
Whew! I did it! I posted!
Actually, I'm not sure if this is even the correct thread to be putting this...Feel free to move it, or whatever if this is not right, and I look forward to meeting you wonderful Avalonians soon!
thanks!!

hi Whisper,

Thank you for joining us, it is a very special group and we are glad you have become part of it...

the cold war ended around that date so I am pretty sure something major happened, I'm just not sure what...

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How many vertical farms have been started since God said we will need them? none...

But quite a few of these are now running: window farms

http://www.windowfarms.org/

also rooftop farms:

http://noteatingoutinny.com/2009/05/27/a-rooftop-farm-for-the-future/

It's the people that are getting organized, not corporations. Grassroots is the way to go...

so what if America's heartland is radiated to the point we can no longer provide food to the world?

are you going to feed the whole family from a window box?

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you know, under Sharia law, bankers wouldn't have arms for what they have stolen...

Lawyers and politicians would have lost their tongues from lying...

silence is golden... ;)

ulli

20th March 2011, 21:47

[/COLOR][QUOTE=ulli;180099][QUOTE=Rocky_Shorz;180079]How many vertical farms have been started since God said we will need them? none...

But quite a few of these are now running: window farms

http://www.windowfarms.org/

also rooftop farms:

http://noteatingoutinny.com/2009/05/27/a-rooftop-farm-for-the-future/

It's the people that are getting organized, not corporations. Grassroots is the way to go...

so what if America's heartland is radiated to the point we can no longer provide food to the world?

are you going to feed the whole family from a window box

Would you really want to consider such a thought?
I thought the whole purpose of us here is to prevent that ...
no more radiation: best case scenario
go into the bicarbonate of soda business: worst case scenario ;)

slvrfx

20th March 2011, 21:51

hello Rocky shorz,you stated earlier in this thread that the chemtrails ahve stopped,just to inform you that they have not stopped where i live in the uk,in facttonight as i await the 'supermoon',they came out behind the cloudbank and dropped a few beauties...i was hoping these were the kind that clear the skies but it does not look like it...I cant seem to see any moon in the sky never mind a supermoon.

Chemtrails haven't stopped here either. Saw them 2 days ago, again. Me and my fam correlate sinus infections, swollen glands and respiratory problems directly to them and have for years. It's the only time we seem to ever get sick is when we're hit by them.

Cayenne pepper, cider vinegar, garlic...and extreme cases, colloidal silver.

slvrfx

20th March 2011, 21:56

Treat the Earth as your own body. Treat your own body as if it was God...

this can be interpreted in many ways, looking at some people walking around the mall I'd say "poor earth".
And not to mention how God has been treated in recent decades...

How about this one:
treat your own body the way you want God to treat you...
and threat the earth like a sparkling pool and garden in a five-star hotel...;)

no ulli. this is a concept for a new way to live, in my mind it means that God is within us and it's time we behaved that way, starting with our bodies.

Yes. In the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, part of the Nag Hammandi collection found in Egypt in the 40's, Christ told Mary M. that mankind doesn't need religion for God is in each of us.

I love how you said it's time for us to behave that way.

ulli

20th March 2011, 22:03

Treat the Earth as your own body. Treat your own body as if it was God...

this can be interpreted in many ways, looking at some people walking around the mall I'd say "poor earth".
And not to mention how God has been treated in recent decades...
How about this one:
treat your own body the way you want God to treat you...
and threat the earth like a sparkling pool and garden in a five-star hotel...;)

no ulli. this is a concept for a new way to live, in my mind it means that God is within us and it's time we behaved that way, starting with our bodies.

Yes. In the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, part of the Nag Hammandi collection found in Egypt in the 40's, Christ told Mary M. that mankind doesn't need religion for God is in each of us.

I love how you said it's time for us to behave that way.

And just look at these posts: we are building a sky bue pyramid by consulting about the highest truths...

Rocky_Shorz

20th March 2011, 22:03

ulli

20th March 2011, 22:13

don't forget curry, it is the wonder spice that cleanses every function of your body...

Rads are at almost 5K in some parts of America, the little badges saying run for your life when protected is 25K... what is the "danger" point?

I'm a realist looking for answers to what is coming...

We created this mess, now to work our way through it...

http://www.vincegiuliano.name/PROTECTION%20AGAINST%20RADIATIONc.htm

scrolling down a bit will bring you to this quote
"This research suggests that several easily-available substances like vitamins C and E, selenium, co-enzyme Q-10, l-carnosine, alpha-lipoic acid, omega-3 oils, acetyl-l-carnitine, resveratrol and curcumin are quite effective in limiting radiation damage in animal and human models. "

Also I believe the part in curry powder that is protective is tumeric.
Can be bought as a powder and as a root, and made into tea.

thunder24

20th March 2011, 22:20

I would have to agree the kingdom is within, yet WE all need to bring that special Kingdom forward into the bright new day. Silence is golden...boy is it ever.
I am so intrigued by the idea of highrise farming. I have blueprints coming forthinto my minds eye on how to construct this thing to run even with the radiation. A way to filter the water and air, and utilize gravity.
I have know how on gardens yet lack the funds to produce one of these structures. Where I live we are like MAYBERRY. HARD to get people here into a new way of thinking... i've tried for years writing letters to the editor and now three years later people are coming into the idea of community gardens. slow but happening. Now with the situation at hand, IT IS TIME.
To those of you with the organization already built of readied, knowledgable volunteers, readied workhorse volunteers, or the CASH...Please take heed and be the difference you wanna see in the world. No more hunger, no more need to purchase dirty and expensive electricity...get these things built.
Purchase tracks of land and let DO THIS THING.

p.s.baking soda and vinegar will alter your ph in opposite ways

Rocky_Shorz

20th March 2011, 22:25

slvrfx

20th March 2011, 22:42

well I started this discussions talking of the Templars...

I'm waiting for them to hear they are all being called to action.

if you have been blessed financially, now is the time to step forward and help all the people you can...

Plans are being made, skills are honed...just need the land and a verification that our choice is right.

James Cook

21st March 2011, 02:18

thunder24

21st March 2011, 10:57

hey james,
i know you didnt ask me but this is what I would have them do.
Finance:
1)implement free energy
2)highrise gardens, the whole building turned into a greenhouse with air and water scrubbers in all cities
3)clean water
4)free health clinics for poor and oppurtunities to make a livable wage
5)full truth and wisdom(granted they have it) in all things regarding history(including theirs) and human abilities
6)Mercifully just Justice system
7)Put their funds behind any and all other ideas that will implement a more equitable culture on earth.
Just to start
peace

well I started this discussions talking of the Templars...

I'm waiting for them to hear they are all being called to action.

if you have been blessed financially, now is the time to step forward and help all the people you can...

What, specifically, would you have them do?

Rocky_Shorz

21st March 2011, 16:12

ulli

21st March 2011, 17:41

We have been given an important choice right now people, earth angels are lighting up around the world...

so many have been seeking... "why"

The truth is the holy spirit is a part of all of us, there to guide us in what needs to be done. I have lived miraculously through many events in my life, and have been at the right place at the right time to save children that would have died without intervention...

We are all gifted, and here to help each other...

I am calling on the Templars to help, all others will follow their lead.

Many like Thunder are waking up to the understanding, no longer third ear blind;)

I became much clearer too, in this understanding. Faith in the Kingdom of Heaven is so much easier than all that brainwork required by astrology. So I have returned to scripture...with comforting results.

"O SON OF BEING!
Love Me
that I may love thee.
If thou lovest Me not
My Love can in no wise reach thee."

ulli

21st March 2011, 17:48

and here are some links to all sorts of community projects: cool stuff

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/community

Videos worth saving for later watching:

300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam (5:56)

Backyard Blitz (1:33)

Co- Housing in Fresno (7:57)

Damanhur (5:52)

Food Not Lawns (2:01)

Green Co-Op in the South Bronx (5:25)

Illegal Gardeners (3:55)

Japan Aid (1:07) NEW!

LandShare & Local Currency (9:12)

Local Currency taking off in DC (2:59)

NeighborGoods (1:28)

New Urbanist Co Housing (2:52) NEW!

Organic School Lunch (2:33)

Return to Nature in Russia (3:00)

Slow Money (29.26)

Sustainable family outside LA -- keeping it extra real! (8:06)

The Power of Transition Towns (52:41)

The Small Mart Revolution (27:42)

Transition All Over The World (8:24)

Transition in Portland, OR (10:24)

Urban Farming in Detroit (5:53) NEW!

What We Can Learn from Hedge Fund Investors (3:26)

WomanShare (10:53)

Your Coffee Has New Powers (8:41)

slvrfx

22nd March 2011, 16:45

People will get their power back when they realize they can take care of themselves.

There's that old saying, "Don't give the poor man the fish, teach him to fish".

That's what I'm talkin' about.

I lived in poverty most of my life, because I was old-school. The woman at home taking care of the home, and the man working...problem was that the man in my case, didn't want to work, and he still wanted me to do the 'woman thing'.

But I wouldn't trade my world for anything.

I got the most important gift ever, self-esteem. I became empowered, knowing I could take the ugliest hovel, and turn it into a palace with a little bit of paint and some discount fabric...

I grew most of our food...yeah, even small animals for milk and eggs...

Taught my children at home, so they understood the answers were already within them, and there was no need to go to any so-called 'expert' to learn something. (Thank god for technology and excellent libraries so most people have the tools available to learn whatever they desire, whenever they choose, which I encouraged them to do.)

(Hehe.....my grown children have told me recently, they never knew we were poor. Ah-HA!! That was one of my goals also. They were never subjected to what most children deal with on a daily basis with the jibes, bullying, cliques, that have become the norm in schools. There are even some teachers who stereotype and classify children on their first day of school, by the clothes they wear.)

I am grateful beyond words, that somehow I was chosen to participate in an experiment of how humans can flourish even under the most adverse of situations.

benevolentcrow

22nd March 2011, 17:03

I am so grateful...
I am so blessed by the bounty of our Creator’s everlasting harvest.
In the earth, I bury the seeds of my pain, growing new possibilities.
In the air, I let the breath of Spirit renew my soul with love and hope.
In the water, I flow with the power of our Creator’s faith to where I am needed.
In the fire, I release the old and arise from the ashes anew.
Earth, air, water and fire: The Creator’s building blocks bless my every moment.

thunder24

23rd March 2011, 10:25

Free education. They need to give away the airwaves and technology needs to be developed that does not alter the brainwaves doing away with electro-magnetic waves bumbarding us, giving people the ability to think for themselves without being M.C. and guided into certain thought procsses and perspectives. WE CAN THINK FOR OURSELVES. Open up the Vatican Vaults. We need to have the TRUE history of all the religions, WE need to figure out what was the truth within them and where they added and took away from the texts. Opening the vaults all over the world will enable the patch work that is needed.
peace
WE R THE GATHERING:pray:

Rocky_Shorz

23rd March 2011, 17:34

does everyone understand the real meaning behind the uprisings in the middle east?

Imagine all of the earth angels, others see as indigo and many other names, spread throughout the world. In the middle east, since a young child they were brought to a religious gathering and taught to hate. The end of the service joining in death chants against the evil enemy of their religion, imagine the punishment being inflicted by " Holy' Elders some calling for the destruction of all mankind...

The earth angels are growing up and rising up, thanks to technology, they have seen through the veil and understand all of us just want them to find peace.

They see in our eyes how cruel and inhumane the punishments are being forced upon them as laws...

They see the rulers as the reason, if they ran their world all of the pain and hatred would disappear...

the ball is rolling there will be no stopping it...

when I was given the 11th commandment from Muhammad to deliver to Islam, he cried when he saw Islam through my eyes...

He had envisioned the most peaceful religion on earth... what happened?

He wants all Muslims to take this commandment and use it as their looking glass to understand which messages are from God...

It is the first of God's Laws given to the Muslims, but meant for the whole world to understand...

11:1 the Will of God is Peace

Live it, breath it, because it will be our future...

Rocky_Shorz

23rd March 2011, 18:44

many people will be shocked reading what I just shared, but the truth is, messages were left for all the churches by John...

I shared an important message from the very beginning to the Church of Saudis, when John was alive Sardis was all he recognized because there wasn't a Saudi Arabia then...

The Guardians of Mecca heard my message and have been working on moving forward with a moderate Islam, I have felt the changes, the King heard, he really has been a friend of the world... The Royal Family deserves our love and protection, I met the Prince in Boston around the same time I met Prince Charles. They were here to teach Americans about Saudi Arabia, until then I thought they all lived in tents and rode Camels... ;)

He told me first of the beauty of his people, and then painted a picture of the lands...

They have been left in 7 circles, I am here to lead them forward to the truths, as painful as they might be, now is the time of understanding.

thunder24

24th March 2011, 00:14

Prince Charles- If he is a Shriner is this a connection he has to Islam?
Why do the Shriner symbols have so many middle eastern connotations?
Does Charles and the family use The current christian representation to please their subjects?
The 5%ers use the seven in a circle, is this influenced from what you reference as the 7 circles?

It would be nice for Charles and the King FAUD to join in on the conversations along with James Rothschild.
Within the TRUTH movement, any one please answer these questions! One more:
Anyone with more info on the church of Smyrna, Please Share.
PEACE:der:

Rocky_Shorz

24th March 2011, 00:28

well remember, my dog spotted him from across 6 lanes of traffic, pulled his head out of the collar to go meet him.

If you trust animal instincts, would you think he is a bad person?

Britain was behind the Islamic revolution in Iran to put Religion in charge of the country...

you need to go way back to understand the main agenda of the PTB was to create the final battle between good and evil...

The good news is, that isn't in God's plans.

There will be no final battle on this planet, it was already carried out in a dimension outside of ours.

thunder24

24th March 2011, 00:32

Trusting animal instincts, then no. Controlled at times by unseen entities, possibly.
peace

I pray every night for the turning of minds and spirit within all the families of power brokers. If they are benevolent, IT IS TIME for the ones that are to get rid of the stinch of opulence that they live within and under. It may be for appearance that the controlled media keeps their image a certain way, but now THEY must come forward within all nations, within all walks of life and make the difference WE are all looking for. It is a process and the weight of their power and greed is crumbling, but the failure could be over quickly if they would change.

Imagine the benevolent kingdoms and power families coming on air, through print or radio declaring what they know and what they will do starting Like yesterday to make this planet more equitable and balanced. What a difference a day could make if only they would. I ask these questions trying to gain truth and understanding of the situation as it is.

The Grand battle taking place already outside of our sphere is wonderful, but NOW IS THE TIME, for the decision makers to STEP ASIDE and return the PLANET and its riches to all.

CALLING ALL TO BRING THE EQUALITY, TRUTH, AND PEACE TO THE FORE. LIKE NOW!

PEACE:amen:

Rocky_Shorz

25th March 2011, 17:05

I had many people writing yesterday worried I disappear, don't worry, when I'm not here I'm out at the beach. What I just shared all true Muslims have always known. God would never create a punishment that would cause those casting stones to break commandments.

For even one not to be true makes them all questionable.

God wants man to create their own rules to follow.

First round of judgment has already passed and Pedophiles were the first names struck from the book of life...

Laws of Man will continuously changed as he evolves, the 11 commandments are his laws for us to follow.

no child under the age of 16 should be forced into marriage with any man, and victims will be protected by the state.
no banker will ever decide which children deserve to eat or have health care.
all Commodities must be pulled off the Market, banks must be created that are owned by the people and interest going to pay for the government.
no religion will ever rule over man, they are meant to nurture souls and help those who are hurting...
they are meant to give advice to the rulers and strength to the nation, not destroy them.

Rocky_Shorz

25th March 2011, 20:36

finally the world is waking up and realizing that Iran has been at war with the world for years...

It said Bahrain's decision to suspend flights to Iran, Iraq and Lebanon and its condemnation of remarks by Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah had "paved the way for the deportation of thousands of Lebanese Shiites from the Gulf."

"No Lebanese Shiite linked to or suspected of being associated with Hezbollah and the Revolutionary Guards will remain in the Gulf," the diplomatic sources said, citing high-ranking Bahraini officials.

Bahrain is preparing to deport 90 Lebanese Shiites, most of them arrested during the Shiite-led, pro-democracy in the kingdom, and is examining the status of 4,000 Lebanese families living in the Gulf kingdom, the sources said...

story link (http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22963:gulf-states-to-deport-hezbollah-iranian-agents&catid=9:terrorism&Itemid=31)

remember my warning about wolves in sheep's clothing?

http://interestofthestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nasrallah.jpg

the only weapon a man of God needs is a book...

In fact their real motivation is the deepening power struggle within Iran’s elite under conditions where Supreme Leader Khamenei—is reported to be gravely ill and possibly near death...

Elite Power Struggle in Iran (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/iran-m08.shtml)

story (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/iran-m08.shtml)

thunder24

26th March 2011, 13:00

Rocky,
Within the context of your pictures, paintings, and story links at the beginning of this thread, can you share anything about Benjamin Bannekar in realtion to the founding of the US and the help he gave to these white Europeans along with any connections to the Moors. Thanks
peace

p.s. what did the templars actually find when digging in jerusalem?

Rocky_Shorz

26th March 2011, 19:17

Well everyone understands right now the only real power in the world is money, and it is time to give the power to the people.

Let me explain how the state run banks will operate.

Imagine the founder of Google or Apple having a State run bank to walk into first, knowing they could put thousands of people to work...

Imagine if the State Bank created 1 Million shares of stock for each employee put to work at either company...

as more and more investors read stories tied to the companies, they invest into these stocks...

There is never a loan because it is originating from the value of taking the un-employed and putting them to work...

Imagine a woman with idea and knowledge to clean up Japan's nuclear mess.

She would go to the state bank and offer to put 100 people to work cleaning up the disaster. 100 Million shares are created... the news stories come in showing the amazing work they have accomplished, people instead of giving a donation would buy as many shares as their hearts desired... Many would never sell these shares because it would remind them of a little good they have done for the world.

at the end, they company would be closed, shares paid to investors of the money left over after costs, each employee given 10% to retire on or move onto the next venture...

by getting unemployed back to work, it relieves the drain from unemployment and welfare, but more importantly, primes the pump on spending that turn the big wheels...

state employees are paid wages directly into their accounts...

there will be no more Short Sales for banks or financial institutions, nor any shares of any State Bank Stock, most relate back to inside information passed through bankers which who all should be arrested and tried for the mess they have made of the world.

you go to a bank for a loan now for help, you are declined which is passed between all bankers, they know you will fail because they are forcing it

State banks will not be sharing the same financial system...

ALL Funding for State Banks will be done through the Treasury not a privately owned institution.

Rocky_Shorz

26th March 2011, 20:00

The Heart of the Hero

In the light of a new day, the hero rises.
Dangers abound, but the hero fears not.
Dressed in shields of peace, the hero walks boldly in the world.
Wrapped in a cloak of love, the hero embraces all upon the road.
Empowered by the Creator’s hope, the hero shares freely the bounties of the heart.
When illuminated by truth, the path ahead holds no unknown risk.
We are the hero of the Creator’s heart.

by Vicky Thompson

Benevolent Crow you have wonderful Gems spread throughout Avalon, hope you don't mind if I grab this one to remember...

thunder24

27th March 2011, 14:31

thunder24

27th March 2011, 15:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPjMJym11c&feature=related
please watch
peace

Rocky_Shorz

27th March 2011, 17:29

exactly, right now the country needs money down to its grass roots.

The Banks purposefully destroyed everyone's credit back in 08 to stop growth, Joe the Plummer now goes to a bank for company expansion, to buy equipment and put people to work, Banks don't care for 20 years before 08 he had never missed a payment. All they care about is how they have ranked him on his worthiness. They throw him out the door like trash...

now think of a state that wants to get the unemployed back to work, he walks in the door, says I need another crew with equipment.

He doesn't need a new truck, found one for $5000 that would work perfect and the unemployed contractors have all the tools they need.

The bank gives him a loan for the vehicle, and wages to the employees paid directly into their state bank accounts...

Another Company is doing a Major expansion and needs plumbing work, the Bank seeing Joe's company is perfect gives the loan for the project, and hands the work over to Joe...

The unemployed now are making better money and at this level, people spend what they have to survive, so put the money right back into the state economy.

Farmers need money for seeds to grow food...

Market's need food and the money to buy it...

JUDGES - Energy became a National Security concern in 03, why haven't you struck down the law allowing clean energy inventions that don't require fuel?

Rocky_Shorz

27th March 2011, 18:34

not many Americans understand the evil Control Oil companies have over us, our politicians stand up and "say" they want the best for our children, but yet they are tought lies of impossibilities instead of the truths of possibilities.

Oil companies are not the future of our country, our children are.

Because of the OIL laws, companies like GM have had to spend hundreds of millions to move developments to Asia for future automobiles that can't even be sold into America.

do any of you understand the insanity?

how do you expect us to really stay the best when we allow oil companies to keep their boot on the throats of our teachers?

we the people are DONE with your controls...

Patents hung up by oil companies shall now be approved to move forward, all laws preventing it struck from the books.

BP digging a new deep water well off the coast... again... with the same equipment... Have all of you lost your minds?

State Banks will be given first right to drilling projects in their state and their coastlines...

Free energy plants producing as much energy as a nuke will be allowed and energy produced sold to cover costs of state employees, teachers, Fireman, police and officials, and yes, will be funded by the state bank.

The offshore drilling contracts should be immediately canceled and the State Bank of Alabama should immediately fund drilling into the same source offshore was aiming for, it is located under the state. If you build on land you will have the stability for the 70,000 PSI for when volcanic eruptions happen inside the deep water cavity. If oil companies would like to purchase Alabama's oil, it is for sale...

This is what is needed to safely tap the oil volcano.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/260321/thumbs/s-DRILLING-INTO-MANTLE-large.jpg
They have a smaller version for drilling vertical.

Universities can be funded to learn how to extract the Thorium and other minerals coming up with the oil for uses in other areas, like replacing Nuke plants...

did anyone happen to watch Joel Osteen this morning?

another as special as BC, bringing the right message at the right time...

The Philistines were worried when David said he was going to fight Goliath and said how can you hurt someone that big...

He just looked back smiling and said "How can I miss?"

thunder24

28th March 2011, 03:44

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-portable-solar-device-potable.html

Portable solar ball cleans 3 liters of water a day.
peace

Rocky_Shorz

28th March 2011, 15:59

do they have one that works with sea water?

a little more about the State and local Banks for investors, imagine being an angel investor that wants to invest in small growing companies, 99.5% of their time they are spending trying to find real opportunities.

Logging in to the State Bank site, will give profiles and news links on the company. They can transfer funds into the state bank and with an account get detailed info on the project. They will be able to buy shares and get profit sharing payouts at the end of each year.

Rothschild, I know you think your family bloodline is special because it goes back to the ark, but let me share something your ancestors forgot to mention, there were special bloodlines on the boat, but you were the zookeepers, the animals were the special bloodlines and the rest of us were lifted out of harms way...

Hard to imagine taking care of all those seasick animals...

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv352/Weeeeesyah/elephant_poop.jpg

"Let me make this perfectly clear..." Cheney

"no new.." Dicktaters... We the People of the World don't need small fries making our decisions...

as zookeepers you have all failed by destroying the environment, the air is polluted, our oceans on the verge of being destroyed, more animals becoming extinct by the day.

as Trump would say... "YOU'RE FIRED..."

While we will be feasting, you will be watching over our animals... for an eternity...

Rocky_Shorz

28th March 2011, 17:31

The UK has rejected proposals from the EU which call for a ban on petrol and diesel cars from city centres by 2050.

The European Commission said phasing out "conventionally fuelled" cars from urban areas would cut reliance on oil and help cut carbon emissions by 60%.

But UK Transport Minister Norman Baker said it should not be "involved" in individual cities' transport choices.

"We will not be banning cars from city centres anymore than we will be having rectangular bananas," he said...
link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12879566)

The Transport Minister has no say in transportation?

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/327964/327964,1252216772,1/stock-photo-square-banana-originality-concept-with-clipping-path-for-easy-and-precise-isolation-suggested-36558529.jpg

get to work...

thunder24

28th March 2011, 22:14

well the ball distilles the water, so I would assume that the salinity would stay in the bottom as the sun heated the water. That is just my impression, not sure.
peace

thunder24

29th March 2011, 14:16

Borrowed this from another thread started by Studeo

The 'Holy Grail' of science: The artificial leaf
The 'Holy Grail' of science: The artificial leaf researchers claim will turn every home into its own power station

Read more: [http://www.pcworld.com/article/223625/researchers_develop_artificial_leaf_your_marigolds_cower_in_fear.html/

sorrythe link has changed, check it out

Rocky_Shorz

29th March 2011, 19:23

now if you look into Revelation 9:11 you will understand all the turmoil the world is going through... Abbadon rising

but that was the day while walking to work crushed that America had been attacked that these words flowed onto paper...

Evil Man, I spoke with your God...

The gift I was given was a pen from the Lord,
Stronger than mass armies, more Powerful than a sword...

He wants every nation to listen to His word
tell all men, women and children to make sure it's heard
time to lay down your arms and give up your power
now is not the time for this world's final hour

the money being spent for all of these wars
could fill every shelf in your Nation's stores
all this fighting, evil and terror must cease
the world is ready for harmony and peace

every religion looks up to the One
so do this great favor for My only son

If you want to know God's power and glory
Then stop all this turmoil.... end of story.

Copyright © 2011 Rocky Shorz

benevolentcrow

29th March 2011, 19:30

Your vision will become clear only when you look into your heart. Who looks outside, dreams. Who looks inside, awakens......Carl Jung

Rocky_Shorz

29th March 2011, 19:53

years ago, a friend who was a veteran who ran a Sunday service at the war memorial came to me asking if I could help him find the right words to save a very special monument, that non believers were trying to tear down...

The Mount Soledad Cross

* A veteran soldier walks up before the crowd, draws his sword and takes the microphone. *

"many people want the cross to come down because it is a religious symbol"

* at this point he raises his sword above his head for all to see. *

"The sword has always been a symbol of a warrior, an Icon of valor and strength. The sign of a man who is willing to die for what he believes. A great Warrior understands the might of the sword isn't in the steel of the blade, it comes from the handle and the heart of the man behind it."

"When a hero falls, his sword is planted in the dirt over his head."

* at this point, he drives the sword deep into the ground, and bows his head. giving the crowd a chance to see the sword glistening in the sunlight.
http://www.emuseumstore.com/images/uploads/4128a.jpg
That's when they realized, they are looking at a cross *

"The strength is still in the handle. To Christians, the three points of the cross, remind us of the Trinity, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but at the heart of it's meaning, stands for a hero that died for what he believed."

"Mt Soledad's Cross is San Diego's reminder of all of our heroes, both men and women, that have died for our Freedom."

"In their memory let it stand, let it be our Sword in the Stone"

"Let it stand for all who died, bringing Peace to the World..."

Copyright © 2011 Rocky Shorz

thunder24

30th March 2011, 00:04

but the dimensions they opened to allow Abaddon's army through, is empty I have said many times people the final battle will not happen in this dimension. His army was brought to the light, pissed him off so he attacked and lost...

now if you look into Revelation 9:11 you will understand all the turmoil the world is going through... Abbadon rising

but that was the day while walking to work crushed that America had been attacked that these words flowed onto paper...

So Abaddon attacked because he was pissed off from his Army leaving, yet he is still causing a disturbance?

So to get past the past, we must give a different reaction to his independant action with out his army that have turned to the light! Seems like his army would be great assests to returning him to his hole.
peace

Rocky_Shorz

30th March 2011, 17:33

"Know" Abaddon no longer exists, and until the world let's go of the memories, his influences will still be painful. He had very dark energy and somehow cast spells onto several Holy books. In Iran's Holiest Mosque, a veil caught fire that separated men from the women, dropping landing on the Quran...

when it happened it seemed to break the spell Iranians were under, the Supreme leader refuses to recognize the message from God...

So I'm thinking there is still another book influenced by Abaddon that he is in contact with regularly...

were you surprised to see Obama's speech today on Energy? Notice how he brought up all the leases being held by oil companies that are not being used... ;) State Banks can fix that really quick...

Department of Energy Launches "America's Next Top Energy Innovator"
March 29, 2011

As part of the Obama Administration's Startup America Initiative, U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu today announced the "America's Next Top Energy Innovator" challenge, which will give start-up companies the opportunity to license groundbreaking technologies developed by the national laboratories for $1,000 and build successful businesses. As part of this effort, the Department is reducing both the cost and paperwork requirements for start-up companies to obtain an option agreement to license some of the 15,000 patents and patent applications held by our 17 national laboratories.

"America's entrepreneurs and innovators are the best in the world," said Secretary Chu. "Today, we're challenging them to create new businesses based on discoveries made by our world-leading national laboratories. Because we've cut the upfront fees and reduced the paperwork, we'll make it easier for start-up companies to succeed and create the new jobs our economy needs. Our goal is simple: unleash America's innovation machine and win the global race for the clean energy jobs of the future."

The Newest World Order is coming to Power...

Rocky_Shorz

30th March 2011, 18:14

Politicians, do you know the difference between a Democracy and a Republic?

in a Democracy We the people are split and feel those running the country are not working for the voters...

in a Republic, the Day the President walks into Office, he is no longer a Democrat or Republican, he is now under the Red White and Blue Party...

House and senate it is the same thing, the day you step into office, you are no longer representing those who helped get you into office, you are no longer 2 parties, because you work for "We the People"...

I say we start running our government like survivor...

If a handful of people Representing the oil companies, insurance companies, Banks and other elite interests, try to stop progress, the people can toss them out and replace them with someone that wants to work for the people.

That is the Country I want to live in and be proud of...

thunder24

31st March 2011, 11:57

So has anyone on here, seen some of these images from the patents, or do you have to get the option lease first? Point in right direction if any one can~
peace
I borrowed this from Calz_avaretard: This is a form of taking a stand. Come on people lets get our backbones aligned!:yo:

Another round of David vs Goliath (right up there with 1.5 million female Wal-Mart employees filing a discrimination suit).

How *dare* my farmland get in the way of your windblown seed

Lawsuit Filed To Protect Themselves from Unfair Patent Enforcement on Genetically Modified Seed

Action Would Prohibit Biotechnology Giant from Suing Organic Farmers and Seed Growers If Innocently Contaminated by Roundup Ready Genes

[quote]NEW York: On behalf of 60 family farmers, seed businesses and organic agricultural organizations, the Public Patent Foundation (PUBPAT) filed suit today against Monsanto Company challenging the chemical giant’s patents on genetically modified seed. The organic plaintiffs were forced to sue preemptively to protect themselves from being accused of patent infringement should their crops ever become contaminated by Monsanto’s genetically modified seed.

Monsanto has sued farmers in the United States and Canada, in the past, when their patented genetic material has inadvertently contaminated their crops.

http://www.cornucopia.org/2011/03/fa...inst-monsanto/

Rocky_Shorz

31st March 2011, 23:33

I did some research and they aren't releasing any free energy technologies...

President Obama, next time you are giving a speech to students and want to explain what clean energy is...

ask them all to roll down the window next time they are on the highway and stick their arm out holding the hand level...

now slowly turn your thumb upward and you feel the lift, that is free energy needing to be captured

if you turn your hand flat against the wind you will feel how much power is there to be captured while hardly affecting the mileage of the vehicle.

for a few thousand $, an auto can produce enough energy in a single commute to give as much power as $20,000 worth of solar panels in a home.

just add wheel generators and a large batter and a way to discharge when reaching the destination and you are ready to solve the energy crisis.

If half the cars on the road did it, we wouldn't need Nukes or more plants...

give me a University that isn't threatened to have all their funding cut for moving forward on clean energy and I'll help build an electric vehicle that never needs to be plugged in...

ps. with your big paws, you might want one of the bodyguards to stick out their arm, we wouldn't want to mess up your free throw shot... ;)

ulli

1st April 2011, 13:17

if this can be generated with a car, just imagine what energy a plane could produce. The airlines would make more profit making batteries than selling passenger tickets.

thunder24

1st April 2011, 13:23

Thats a great point Ulli. thanks
peace

Rocky_Shorz

1st April 2011, 17:50

well imagine trains, that can travel 100 miles on a gallon of fuel... already designed ready to put on the tracks...

anyone notice for the end of March Brent Crude closed at 117.17? Bankers and Oil men both know...

anyone wonder why the Dems agreed to $33 Billion in cuts, more than the Republicans asked for?

with march being the month of disclosure, maybe April should be the month of Exposure...

April fools day running for a month...

I was about to shut off the TV last night and Glen Beck came on... He gets my vote for the April fool

he is a Christian extremist spreading fear and hatred to all who will watch...

hey Trump, pick a different station... ;)

Let's start a thread to keep track of all the April Fools jokers to keep track of everyone who seems derailed...

and I'm not talking about the Charlie Sheens, I'm talking about everyone who is broadcasting hatred...

Rupert Murdoch king of the fear mongers, prefers seeing the world destroyed out of ignorance spread through his media outlets than releasing truths.

local quake map (http://www.seis.utah.edu/recenteqs/Maps/110-39.html)

33 quakes around Yellowstone?

maybe it is time for everyone to meet the 33...

Rocky_Shorz

1st April 2011, 19:08

once the veil comes down on who is running the world, they will no longer to be able to scare anyone...

6583

thunder24

1st April 2011, 23:43

How are these state banks you speak of Rocky gonna run though, kind of a nuts and bolts, like what will get people to think that this will work at all. The people that have run our nation and world have controlled the finances of this plane of existense for way too long. If they will realease the funds they have hoarded, have some sort of distribution with these banks in place ready to run. Seems there will need to be some sort of litness test for lack of a better term to make sure the ones controlling the debts and credits of the bank wil be on the same page as the intention of the new way of banking. The people are the Newest World Order. Is this anything like the State Bank of North dakota, or something brand new and if brand new, maybe a different name will be needed to not confuse the two?!?!
peace to all

the people in place of the title of president, senator, and representitive will need to START NOW, getting structures set up so when they step aside the ones we put in to be funded by these extra revenues can do the JOB unlike their predecessors

retallack

2nd April 2011, 00:03

Just to add a few more sites to the stories of the lawsuits.

http://percyschmeiser.com/

http://www.percyschmeiser.com/conflict.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/genetics_modification/percyschmeiser.html

thunder24

2nd April 2011, 00:07

thankyou for the links retallack and welcome to avalon. I see you haven't been a member long, and just wanted to let you know we are real people trying to find real solutions. Einsten said it best can't fix the problem with the same thinking that got us into this mess. Please give any thoughts and suggestions that will be a lasting difference in our NEW DAY that has dawned. thanks and
peace

p.s.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/mar/31/barack-obama-losing-84-billion-big-success/

To Mr. Obama and his cabinet and the little guys that whisper in his ears...controller and handlers...THIS WILL NOT DO. $25 billion loss to taxpayers will not be tolerated in this NEW DAY

Rocky_Shorz

2nd April 2011, 00:48

you need to understand the war of 1812 was England attacking America for throwing out their Banks put in place to control us.

what I am talking about is creating banks for the people.

Employees will work for double what welfare/unemployment pays, managers double that. NO ONE in a state Bank is paid like the world depends on them.

Banks depend on deposits, for each dollar they Hold, they lend 50

Bankers have different math than the rest of us...

State Banks can offer 11% interest on Deposits, money will flow in allowing the State Banks to lend to the people at 3-4% using the same guidelines as private banks.

The Discount window information is online, if you want to see why the banks recovered and paid back TARP... Remember for each dollar they received they lent 50, that is why Bankers made over $150 Billion in Bonuses since the banking crisis.

need to run but will finish this thought later...

Rocky_Shorz

2nd April 2011, 17:53

remember what I said about Revelation 9:11 being the reason behind all the anger in the world?

Like the prophets of old, Terry Jones has a message -- and it's fiery.
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The controversial Florida preacher, who first lit a spark on Facebook when he called for people around the world to set fire to copies of the Koran, is now at the center of an international conflagration.

Jones' plan to set ablaze thousands of copies of the Muslim holy book on Sept. 11...

story link (http://abcnews.go.com/US/terry-jones-pastor-burn-koran-day/story?id=11575665)

People, the Qu'ran isn't teachings of evil, and don't let those who don't understand mislead you...

what they are all angry about is lack of respect from their elders, the Christians and Jews...

The incidents follow a violent protest on Friday in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif that left at least 11 dead including seven UN workers...
story link (http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110402/afghan-protests-quran-burning-110402/20110402/?hub=MontrealHome)

To most Gainesville, Florida locals, Rev. Terry Jones is a fringe extremist...

The National Weather Service has issued a tornado watch for Alachua County and 33 other Florida counties...

A severe thunderstorm and suspected tornado tore through Central Florida today, leaving seven people with minor injuries...

Tangri

2nd April 2011, 19:03

Rocky_Shorz

2nd April 2011, 22:09

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/04/02/us/02burn1/02burn1-articleInline.jpg

Mr. Jones, 59, with his white walrus moustache, craggy red face and basso profundo voice, seems like a man from a different time. Sitting at his desk in his mostly unadorned office, he keeps a Bible in a worn brown leather cover by his side and a “Braveheart” poster within sight. Both, he said, provide sustenance for the mission at hand: Spreading the word that Islam and the Koran are instruments of “violence, death and terrorism.”

of course Christianity has always been peaceful...

# Crusades (1095-1291) 3 000 000 [make link]

* Estimated totals:
o Robertson, John M., A Short History of Christianity (1902) p.278: 9,000,000
o Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual: 5,000,000
o Henry William Elson, Modern Times and the Living Past, (1921) p. 261: 5,000,000
o Om Prakesh Jaggi, Religion, Practice and Science of Non-violence, (1974) p. 40: "The crusades cost Europe five million young men"
o Fielding Hudson Garrison, Notes on the History of Military Medicine, Association of Military Surgeons, (1922) p. 106: 3,000,000 total, incl. 2,000,000 Europeans
o MEDIAN: 3 million
o Philip Alexander Prince, Parallel universal history, an outline of the history and biography of the world divided into ... (1838) p.207: "Although two million souls perished in the Crusades..."
o Charles Mackay, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841): 2,000,000 Europeans killed. [http://www.bootlegbooks.com/NonFiction/Mackay/PopDelusions/chap09.html]
o Wertham: 1,000,000
o John Shertzer Hittell, A Brief History of Culture (1874) p.137: "In the two centuries of this warfare one million persons had been slain..."
* Individual Events:
o Davies: Crusaders killed up to 8,000 Jews in Rhineland
o Paul Johnson A History of the Jews (1987): 1,000 Jewish women in Rhineland comm. suicide to avoid the mob, 1096.
o Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, v.5, 6
+ 1st Crusade: 300,000 Eur. k at Battle of Nice [Nicea].
+ Crusaders vs. Solimon of Roum: 4,000 Christians, 3,000 Moslems
+ 1098, Fall of Antioch: 100,000 Moslems massacred.
+ 50,000 Pilgrims died of disease.
+ 1099, Fall of Jerusalem: 70,000 Moslems massacred.
+ Siege of Tiberias: 30,000 Christians k.
+ Siege of Tyre: 1,000 Turks
+ Richard the Lionhearted executes 3,000 Moslem POWs.
+ 1291: 100,000 Christians k after fall of Acre.
+ Fall of Christian Antioch: 17,000 massacred.
+ [TOTAL: 677,000 listed in these episodes here.]
o Catholic Encyclopedia (1910) [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/]
+ Jaffa: 20,000 Christians massacred, 1197
o Sorokin estimates that French, English & Imperial German Crusaders lost a total of 3,600 in battle.
+ 1st C (1096-99): 400
+ 2nd C (1147-49): 750
+ 3rd C (1189-91): 930
+ 4th C (1202-04): 120
+ 5th C (1228-29): 600
+ 7th C (1248-54): 700
o James Trager, The People's Chronology (1992)
+ 1099: Crusaders slaughter 40,000 inhabs of Jerusalem. Dis/starv reduced Crusaders from 300,000 to 60,000.
+ 1147: 2nd Crusades begins with 500,000. "Most" lost to starv./disease/battle.
+ 1190: 500 Jews massacred in York.
+ 1192: 3rd Crusade reduced from 100,000 to 5,000 through famine, plagues and desertions in campaign vs Antioch.
+ 1212: Children's Crusade loses some 50,000.
+ [TOTAL: Just in these incidents, it appears the Europeans lost around 650,000.]

# Albigensian Crusade (1208-49) 1 000 000 [make link]

* The traditional death toll given for the war against the Cathars is one million, which is repeated in these:
o John M. Robertson, A Short History of Christianity, London: Watts, 1902, p.254 ("It has been reckoned that a million of all ages and both sexes were slain.")
o Christopher Brookmyre, Not the End of the World (New York: Grove Press, 1998) p.39
o Max Dimont, Jews, God, and History, (New York: Penguin, 1994) p.225: 1,000,000 Frenchmen suspected of being Albigensians slain
o Dizerega Gus, Pagans & Christians: The Personal Spiritual Experience (St. Paul, MN: Llewellyn, 2001) p.195
o Helen Ellerbe, The Dark Side of Christian History (Orlando, FL: Morningstar & Lark, 1995) p.74
o Michael Newton, Holy Homicide (Port Townsend, WA: Loompanics Unlimited, 1998) p.117

# 2,000,000 Saxons and Scandinavians lost their lives opposing the introduction of Christianity.
# 1,000,000 in the Holy Wars against the Netherlands, Albigenses, Waldenses, and Huguenots.

M. D. Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual (1897): 9,000,000 burned for witchcraft.

any questions?

Rocky_Shorz

2nd April 2011, 22:19

As is the way with most scriptures, the qu'ran has gems in it.

One is this ''whatever you want, want it for your brother first'' and that is definitely a gem.

If there was ever a quote that shows the true heart and beliefs of Islam, it is this one...

What most Americans don't understand is in the Middle East, great respect is shown to elders.

The Jews are the elders of Christianity, Jews and Christians are the elders of Islam...

Muslims already understand they will never have peace until Israel does...

ulli

2nd April 2011, 22:27

Islam is getting bad rap, no doubt about it.
To put the record straight a bit here are some facts:
In 1000 AD, while London and Paris were still knee deep in mud and frequent highway robberies made travel dangerous, this was Cordoba, Southern Spain, under Islamic rule:

"Profound Islamic reverence in the "Quest for Knowledge." Emir Abd-ar-Rahman 1, Abd-ar-Rahman 11, the Caliphs' Abd ar-Rahamn 111 and al-Hakim 11 were the most generous benefactors for Education and Health Care.
They created hospitals, universities, over seventy free libraries and seventeen public learning colleges.

The Quality of Life in Cordova was unparalleled
Fifty thousand street lamps illuminated paved Cordovan streets.
Cordova had other treasures: 700 Mosques, 70 public libraries, 50 public hospitals, 900 Public Baths, over 200,000 houses and over 60,000 palaces for residing nobility: wealthy residents, viziers, generals, legitimate members of the Royal household.

Public plazas had piped water. Many wealthy households were hooked up and had flushing lavatories. A sophisticated network of sewerage ducts carried waste away from the town (which still works today), preserving pristine water-tables."

http://www.andalucia-andalusia.com/Madinat-az-Zahra-Debacle.html

thunder24

3rd April 2011, 03:02

From public view it seems Christianity has failed to birth and bring forth one Son of God yet. 11th Commandment being the will of God is Peace. Why do Christians not greet and depart in said manner. The peace within our respective books can be seen, twisting and turnings have caused men to fight for God. In the Christians book, Did their savior physically fight? If he is the truth way and life then why don't you follow the way. When we come to see the the similarities in each other and quit looking for the differences then this world will know peace and the TRUE CHRIST WITHIN.
asalamalakum!

Ezekiel 45:9
‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Enough, O princes of Israel! Remove violence and plundering, execute justice and righteousness, and stop dispossessing My people,” says the Lord GOD.”

`This applies to all supposed presidents, supposed princes and supposed kings`

Rocky_Shorz

3rd April 2011, 18:11

Religions are pulling people away from the real truth, struggling to prove their God is a better God...

They need to stop running away and walk back into the center, when the tug of war stops, peace will follow.

Leaders need to help...

Obama Condemns US Radical Pastor's Burning of The Holy Quran
[03/April/2011]

Washington, April 03 (Saba) - US President Barack Obama on Saturday condemned a US radical pastor’s burning of the Holy Quran, after violent protests at what he called an act of "extreme intolerance and bigotry" left 17 dead in Afghanistan. Obama also reiterated his condemnation of the "outrageous" attacks by protesters as "an affront to human decency and dignity," according to Qatar News Agency (QNA).

"No religion tolerates the slaughter and beheading of innocent people, and there is no justification for such a dishonourable and deplorable act," he added.

"The desecration of any holy text, including the Quran, is an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry," Obama said in a statement honouring those killed in the attacks. Ten people died amid fresh protests that began in the center of the main southern city of Kandahar and spread as police clashed with crowds on Saturday, a day after seven UN staff were killed in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif...

Yemen News (http://www.sabanews.net/en/news238855.htm)

You see, the Middle East doesn't hate us because we are Christians, just the Lack of understanding and the fact many were left in the stone age as we moved forward. They see our monster houses on TV thinking we all live like Kings, do you think that makes them happy living in a mud shack or cave?

To end the anger, we need to drop books instead of bombs, we need to offer opportunity other than growing Poppies in Countrys like Afghanistan.

We need Rare Earth minerals and they are sitting on a Gold mine.

I want their State Bank backed by those minerals to move the people forward. They don't need our money just the "knowledge on how to make their lives better. They will do the rest with our support.

They need mental health centers, we have plenty of institutions to help those falling off the edge, they don't. They are sent to extremist camps to learn how to run at the enemy with a gun until they meet Allah...

don't you all see this is our failure, not theirs...

Let them find peace, so we can have ours...

Obama: Clean energy technologies 'aren't science fiction anymore'...

real energy security can only come if we find ways to use less oil - if we invest in cleaner fuels and greater efficiency..."

As a part of this last strategy, Obama on Friday announced the launch of the Clean Fleets Partnership - a partnership between the federal government and businesses to help convert fleets to more efficient vehicles. "More companies are going to be switching to electric and alternative vehicles," Obama said, "not out of the goodness of their hearts, but because it's good for their bottom lines."...

"And the good news is, these technologies aren't science fiction anymore," Obama said. "Innovators across America are testing new products that hold incredible promise not just for new vehicles, but for countless new jobs."...

complete Story (http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Obama-Clean-energy-technologies-aren-t-science-1319517.php#ixzz1IU2BOdAp)

anti gravity is no longer Science fiction... ;)

thunder24

3rd April 2011, 22:00

These examples by President Obama are great ways of shining a light on the path. Thankyou. Rocky you have stated examples for the needed actions by the leaders of this nation and theis earth. Books not bombs would do tremendous amounts of good. Enough with the propaganda fed to the "free" world, and enough with the propaganda to the third worlds. Truth in all things.

The description of State Banks by rocky in previous posts are rock solid ways to change the wealth distribution among the nation and world. Implement these ideas BANKERS and WE will have the ability to not just survive but to thrive.
peace:fish2:

Rocky_Shorz

4th April 2011, 21:25

6668

I stepped the discussion over to another thread for a few important answers...

Video of the prophecy of the last Islamic Messiah

discussion (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17715-Video-of-the-prophecy-of-the-last-Islamic-Messiah&p=190588&viewfull=1#post190588)

Rocky_Shorz

6th April 2011, 17:37

President Obama, some times you need to "oil" the squeaky wheel...

They want to decrease taxes to 25% from 35% for the rich and I think a 25% Flat tax is more than fair...

is it fair that GE made $500 Billion this year and American Tax Payers had to give them over $3 Billion in subsidies?

Koch Industries, the international conglomerate owned by Charles and David Koch, is not only the second largest private company in America...

But in reality, the focus of the Koch political machine is geared towards “crony capitalism” — corrupting government to make Charles and his brother David Koch richer. Koch’s Tea Party libertarianism is actually a thin veneer for the company’s long running history of winning special deals from the government and manipulating the market to pad Koch profits:

– The dirty secret of Koch Industries is its birth under the centrally-planned Soviet Union. Fred Koch, the founder of the company and father of David and Charles, helped construct fifteen oil refineries for Joseph Stalin before expanding the business in the United States.

– As Yasha Levine has reported, Koch exploits a number of government programs for profit. For instance, Georgia Pacific, a timber company subsidiary of Koch Industries, uses taxpayer money provided by the U.S. Forestry Service to provide their loggers with taxpayer-funded roads and access to virgin growth forests. “Logging companies such as Georgia-Pacific strip lands bare, destroy vast acreages and pay only a small fee to the federal government in proportion to what they take from the public,” according to the Institute for Public Accuracy. Levine also notes that Koch’s cattle ranching company, Matador Cattle Company, uses a New Deal program to profit off federal land for free.

– Koch Industries won massive government contracts using their close relationship with the Bush administration. The Bush administration, in a deal even conservatives alleged was a quid pro quo because of Koch’s campaign donations, handed Koch Industries a lucrative contract to supply the nation’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve with 8 million barrels of crude oil. The SPR deal, done initially in 2002, was renewed in 2004 by Bush administration officials. During the occupation of Iraq, Koch won significant contracts to buy Iraqi crude oil.

– Although Koch campaigned vigorously against health reform — running attack ads, sponsoring anti-health reform Tea Parties, and comparing health reform to the Holocaust — Koch Industries applied for health reform subsidies made possible by the Obama administration...

full koch story... (http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/01/charles-koch-welfare/)

in reality, the 1% who hold all the money are the ones who should be taxed... 25%

everyone earning under $250K pay a flat 11% health care tax which will fund the public health system.

now with Free energy I have laid out how to fund local governments, with State and Local banks, fund growth and jobs

IRS should immediately drop all cases on citizens earning under $250K/year and should concentrate on the real crooks...

http://madmikes.madmikesamerica.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tax-Cuts-For-Rich-Expiring.jpg

Rocky_Shorz

6th April 2011, 23:15

sometimes when I am writing these threads I start wondering if anyone is listening... then articles start popping up...

People's Bank opening...

Prominent Israelis offer 'peace initiative' - The plan, drafted in part by ex-military and intelligence officials, includes land swaps and no right of return...

"The key principle of all regional peace agreements shall be Israeli withdrawals, guaranteed security, normal relations, and an end to all conflicts," the proposal states.

A group of about 40 people worked on the project, including former army chief Amnon Lipkin-Shahak; former Mossad chief Danny Yatom; Yaakov Perry and Ami Ayalon, both former heads of Shin Bet; and Amram Mitzna, a former leader of the Labour party.

"We looked around at what was happening in neighbouring countries and we said to ourselves, 'It is about time that the Israeli public raised its voice as well,'" Yatom told the New York Times...
story link (http://aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/04/20114681444376835.html)

Glenn Beck leaving Fox News...

I'll keep painting... ;)

thunder24

6th April 2011, 23:47

Rocky_Shorz

7th April 2011, 15:27

for the Bankers in New York I was just sitting here thinking what it is going to take to pull commodities from your control before markets opened today...

Thursday, April 07, 2011 at 09:11:24 AM (EDT) - Eastern Daylight (New York) 6.5 earthquake in Vera Cruz Mexico...

must just be another coincidence...

http://gdb.rferl.org/8566836C-0071-457C-92A1-3E8ECE198452_w527_s.jpg

I would say it isn't worth a penny over 330M... ;)

look at this building close by...

the all seeing eye in the courtyard... (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Black+Sea+Novorossiisk&aq=&sll=43.413029,34.299316&sspn=14.323459,43.286133&g=Black+Sea&ie=UTF8&hq=Black+Sea&hnear=Novorossiysk,+Region+of+Krasnodar,+Russia&ll=44.683722,37.793317&spn=0.000809,0.002642&t=h&z=19)

Rocky_Shorz

8th April 2011, 15:19

first, clean energy is no longer science fiction...

yesterday, the SEC moved to change the rules on Private company stock, could this be the first step in getting the State banks rolling so we can get people back to work?

Democrats are holding strong at $33 Billion in spending cuts...

crude oil at $111 the day after I spotted the eye...

just a coincidence...

Nasu

8th April 2011, 16:06

Thank you for these posts.... I am new here and am struck by the grace in what you are expressing. I am learning a great deal by roaming this Forum but have difficulty accepting the idea of negative outcome on a grand scale. To me, there is such a strong sense of loving presence that is much more powerful than anything fear-based. I hope that is right....

I agree that most people seem respectful and empowered, not victims. That does not negate some large scale obvious conclusions though. No matter how great the day is, or how loving, or productive, we all know that at some point later on it will end and be replaced with darkness. This is neither negative nor positive, it just is. I believe so it is with this forum.

Rocky_Shorz

8th April 2011, 18:55

I went in search of the eye, tracking down the RAh Preists to figure out what was casting this darkness over Iranian leaders, the Dajjal, was meant to be in Israel, but I understand where the spiritual Israel is, so decided to search closer...

“Dajjal”(Arabic: "The Deceiver"), in Islamic eschatology, is the Antichrist who will come forth before the end of time; after a reign of 40 days or 40 years, he will be destroyed by Christ or the mahdi ("rightly guided one") or both, and the world will submit to God. Ad-Dajjal first appears in pseudoapocalyptic Christian literature and is reworked in hadith (sayings) ascribed to the Prophet Muhammad. There he is described as a plump, one-eyed man with a ruddy face and curling hair and the Arabic letters k-f-r ("unbelief") on his forehead. His parents will possess ugly and unpleasant appearance. His mother will be quite fat. When he will arrive in this world, a strange animal will also arise which will cause disease and drought in its accessible regions, and it will also serve as the means of transportation for Dajjal.

Ad-Dajjal will appear during a period of great tribulation; he will be followed by the Jews and will claim to be God in Jerusalem. He will work false miracles, and most people will be deceived. At this moment will occur the Second Coming of Christ, who will bring the demise of “the rule of Dajjal”.

Tradition expects Ad-Dajjal to appear in the East, possibly Khorasan, or in the West. In the meantime, he is said to be somewhere in the East Indies, on an island from which the sounds of dancing and beautiful music emanate, according to sailors' lore and the tale of Sindbad the Sailor. An alternate version is linked with the Greek Prometheus legend; in this account, Ad-Dajjal is bound to a rock on an island in the sea and is fed by demons...

grabbed from a Google discussion... (http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081020212729AAxhnoh)

kattrinarose

8th April 2011, 22:55

Bravo Bill, awesome video's ! I feel it takes a mature and open mind to really embrace, comprehend, and view fairly the big picture behind this all, in the calm and eloquent energy that is needed with such delicate issues.....and you are obviously the chosen one for a reason... I could clearly see that reason on the screen. The line between thinking logically, and emotional response is very hard to swallow-- a huge test of inner strength, courage, authenticity, core truth and integrity and honor---- across the board. In my heart you passed with flying colors !!! If I could be half that person....

In history, it seems that the "enlightened" tribal members had to endure much sacrifice for the future of the tribe. It goes with taking self responsibility in all things. I commend you on your stamina and courage !!!!

While I listened to what Charles shared.... I thought back to the movie "The Fifth Element", when the Superior Being sat in front of the computer viewing the history of humanity. Watch the movie and just look at her reaction of shear terror...she ran and hid and wanted no part of trying to "save" what she saw as a bunch of rabid threatening animals. Often I watch the nightly news and feel the same way...I must be honest. So, to judge Charles for being so detached has made me think deep...and maybe view this as mirror back to myself when I turn a blind eye to all the death and destruction, rape, incest, and nasty, nasty stuff....then go off to paint my fingernails or chat about the weather with my friends...just another day in Paradise...LOL.

I think we may all want to step back, now, and review our lives. What drives and motivations...past/present? What were/are our joys and pleasures? What are we interested in? What do we take charge of in our own survival, and what do we leave up to others to do? How we service(d) others-and for what reason? Who do we blame and for what? Are we assets or liabilities? Is it our right to destroy the planet in gluttony?

I have never had a gun to my head to go out and embrace beliefs or collect "things" that I knew, for sure, somewhere, someway were severely polluting or depleting Mother Earth and her children in some way. Like Charles and many, many people have stated, there is nothing really "done" to us that is not in public view in some way. All the things in my life were guided by my decisions, my free will and there is no one else to blame.

Should I go off protesting that I was deceived by TV? Media propaganda? Peer pressure? or maybe it was the Subliminal messages from "The Baddies"? Where was the gun to my head to participate in, turn onto or buy into things? Where was the gun to my head forcing me to think the way I used to think--- that they world was a big playground created just for me, and I could do or say whatever my little ego mind wished to. There was no gun to my head to buy into mass media, and think things like sinister comedy, gore, horror or the now extremely popular crime drama's on every second it seems, with blood and guts everywhere...and think they were a cool means of entertainment.

Where are the protests in the streets over programs polluting our minds, our children's minds...like CSI, NCIS, Criminal minds???? Come on people. The masses love this stuff. We think "Charles" is a monster??? LOL big time. And I no way defend his agenda, I am just stating that the guy downtown, on the corner selling drugs to kids, or slipping them a "micky" to take advantage of them is in the same category of violation, and I don't see people marching in the streets about this either.

It was my free will choice to play a part in the world situation as it is now, sit back with my Dunkins, and not get off my ass and do anything about it.... Look at the information on the carbon footprint, and I say no more. And now oooopppsss, looks like the game my be over...couldn't be our fault, could it???? Lets blame Charles, lets blame the "baddies".... there ya go. Not fun to "own" any of this at all.

Go onto the ego checks here...and the "I wants", "I deserve" or "I know best"... How can one being even get a glimpse of what is good for the "whole" or even know what they really want, while sitting lazy in front of the tube, passionately engrossed in the "game", the Crime Show, the Horror Flick, the sex and smutt all over the place ? Count the people you know that live this way, state clearly they deserve this entertainment, frivolities, and material toys, and do not take the time nor the energy to investigate just what expense someone or something must sacrifice for this... And then, yes, lets us protest to unleash them more, hell put them in power..... All while the garden sits and withers, because it is such an inconvenient chore...a bore...

Who gave anyone permission or the go ahead to over populate the planet, practically on the edge of so much extinction? Did the "baddies" make us all be obsessed with sex and spawning? LOL Did we not have a choice to maintain some moral and values? Who gave anyone permission to slaughter the precious creatures of this world, for the convenience of McDonald's...or deplete the precious forests all for our consumption in building the "American dream home". Is "Avatar" just a movie, or is it a mirror of the human condition? The "baddies" in the movie would not have been able to mine the precious rocks under the Tree if there were not sheeple to consume the energy from them back on home planet... Is this what is called "free will"?... Tell me please, who really has all the power here??? Who made the mess...the 6.something billion...or the 33 bloodlines?

It matter not to me if we are in fact an experiment, if 33 bloodlines control the world bank, if the "elite" sit on Golden thrones. So, we are a prison planet, ok??? Now what...have a beer? Walk around pissed off and make comments like the one on this thread? Well it seems we have lots of destructive freedom in our "enslaved" selves, so those chains must be real loose. What could be the point to dwell on these issues of history, consipiracy and such---do like nothing about it but type a few words on a website--- and waste my precious time here??? This is the big question I am just now asking myself, after seeing this interview and Bill's other interview in response to it.... is......how can I, me, we, make this world a better place. How can I follow the example of excellence and deep compassion that people like Bill radiate... as displayed in this interview?

I can here responses from others to this message---and to the effect that it will matter to me when I am alone, in the dark starving after the powers that be pull the plug. Yes, it will, but who's fault is that? I have had 40 some odd years to educate myself and prepare. To search for authentic love and a natural life...somewhere in a corner of the planet-- to settle in with like minded people, and so forth. I don't feel fooled, or betrayed, or misinformed. I feel lazy, selfish, self-centered and just plain irresponsible.

With all "bad" things come the gifts of awareness and awakening. Our curses are most often blessings. So what is the real "dichotomy" here. Please tell me. Who are the "goodies"....us? Who are the "baddies"...them? What is really the difference between the clans?

I dare to even think what would happen if the "leash" was off humanity right now. Like here ya go, here is zero point energy, have a ball. LOL. I can't even imagine what "weapons of mass destruction" will be made in the basements of my neighborhood... Yes, it would be real cool going from the frying pan into the fire and let (as Bob Dean says) "Joe sick pack" run my world...

Unfortunately, it will probably take something real major for people to wake up. And I, personally, just have to accept that. Yet...I believe in my heart there just may be something to what Bill asked in "could there be another way"... I have yet to see the masses respond to anything like that since people like Martin Luther King or Gandhi spoke up and sacrificed their lives....

Where are the masses in the street, in a peaceful, loving state, joining hands and come up with a solution? Where is neighbor helping neighbor? Few and far between...sad to say. All I see right now is bombs, and guns, and body bags all over a big part of this planet, as radiation pours into the air and sea. Did the "baddies" do that? Maybe...but where were the educated protestors forming the human shield to protect the land from the Nukes being put in...in the first place? Aye, the big questions !!! What would run my blow dryer if that happened?

In the end, I believe there will be no winners, no losers....all that will matter is how we played the game.

thunder24

9th April 2011, 01:37

...I don't feel fooled, or betrayed, or misinformed. I feel lazy, selfish, self-centered and just plain irresponsible....

What could be the point to dwell on these issues of history, consipiracy and such---do like nothing about it but type a few words on a website--- and waste my precious time here??? This is the big question I

am just now asking myself, after seeing this interview and Bill's other interview in response to it...

Yet...I believe in my heart there just may be something to what Bill asked in "could there be another way"... I have yet to see the masses respond to anything like that...
first off kattrinarose welcome to avalon.

thoughts are things so by typeing here you are shareing your conscoisness in the physical which can only enhance or depreciate the rest of us towards or away from the so called "tipping point".
In my opinion, and thats all it is, protests, rallies, sitins, and the like can state a message but get subverted and in all reality doesn't do much.

I ask a retorical question: would one rather be frustrated and protest, or make a calculated decision with a plan other than " I don't like sex crimes, extortion and the like so i'll march on washington"?

I personally think that alot of us here have had the feelings and thoughts you expressed in your post, at least I know I have. But I'm not going to allow myself to be decieved by my impulse emotions on those subjects so I chose to discuss things here and educate myself beyond here, before I take whatever next step I feel necessary. I'm amazed at the diversity of people here and what they actually do away from the computer and threads in their everyday lives to make a difference so with that :
"be the change you want to see in the world"
peace

Rocky_Shorz

9th April 2011, 02:27

This is a post from a different thread but fits in perfect with this discussion...

I was listening to Alex Jones on infowars,
Alex talks with Bruce Fein, a Libertarian lawyer,
a former official in Reagan administration's Department of Justice,
and chairman of American Freedom Agenda.
Mr. Fein has drafted an article of impeachment against Obama
over his unconstitutional attack on Libya.

THE IMPEACHMENT POWER

1. Article II, Section IV of the United States Constitution provides:
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States,
shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason,
Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

http://www.infowars.com/bruce-fein-articles-of-impeachment/

Do you think Barack Hussein Obama will ever be impeached?

are you talking about the American Freedom agenda controlled by the most powerful Banker in America? I guess it isn't any different than the Americans for Prosperity Foundation backed by one of the most powerful oil men in the country...

– The dirty secret of Koch Industries is its birth under the centrally-planned Soviet Union. Fred Koch, the founder of the company and father of David and Charles, helped construct fifteen oil refineries for Joseph Stalin before expanding the business in the United States...

Stalin would be proud...

I just heard the cuts and We the People have only 1 thing to say...

VETO!!!

Tell ya what, TAX GE 25% for the money they made offshore not claimed in their taxes...

that is $125 Billion and you don't cut anything needed by the public

The 2 largest groups the Republicans are following are directed by the Leaders of Banks and Oil companies...

Rocky_Shorz

9th April 2011, 02:58

now, think for a moment Republicans, you stand for state government strength where Democrats used to be for strong federal governments...

I am proposing giving strength to States by allowing them to grow economies by investments from the State Banks...

Clean Energy can pay governments costs...

I see a need for a highly advanced Electric Company to handle this project, like GE...

I don't want GE to pay $125 Billion into the black hole of Government...

I would like for them to invest $125 Billion into the US Clean energy market...

That is a punishment worthy a company like GE...

Rocky_Shorz

9th April 2011, 18:59

interesting news out of London yesterday, while Bretton Woods is going on...

The coalition faces a "high noon" over its plans for the major banks as the government's independent commission on banking prepares to set out ideas for a possible wide-ranging reform of the industry following of the financial crisis.

Analysts at Goldman Sachs predicted Barclays could be most affected by proposals from Sir John Vickers and his four commissioners, followed by the bailed-out Lloyds Banking Group and Royal Bank of Scotland. HSBC and Standard Chartered are likely to be least affected by the reforms, which could force banks to dramatically change the way they run their operations.

Lord Oakeshott – who resigned as a Lib Dem Treasury spokesman in the Lords over the failure to crack down on the banks – is keeping up the pressure on the coalition on Friday to adopt the recommendations, despite warnings from the major banks that they could quit London if reform is too radical...

full story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/08/bank-reforms-high-noon-coalition)

Rocky_Shorz

9th April 2011, 19:49

has anyone ever read this book, written 100 years ago?

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52073000/jpg/_52073729_bookofkhalidtitle.jpg

"The Book of Khalid is about how American values could actually inspire revolution from the Ottoman Empire," says Mr Fine, who is editing a new edition of the book, due to be published at the end of the year.

"In fact the novel even ends with riots triggered by Khalid in Damascus. It is this uncanny connection that makes me believe that if we revisit the relationship between the US and the Arab world through Rihani and through The Book of Khalid we can realise that we don't have tremendous differences."
'Bridging East and West'

Echoes of Rihani's stand against tyranny and human rights violations were evident in the protests in Cairo's Tahrir Square which led to the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak, says his nephew Ramzi Rihani.

"I think the message is about bridging East and West," he says. "This is why he resonates not only with the Arabs, but with the entire world."

Rihani believed he was uniquely positioned to bridge the two worlds and sought to do so through all his writings.

He immigrated to New York in 1887 at 11 years of age...

story link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13017564)

Rocky_Shorz

9th April 2011, 22:22

Rupert Murdoch used his political influence and contacts at the highest levels to try to get Labour MPs and peers to back away from investigations into phone hacking at the News of the World, a former minister in Gordon Brown's government has told the Observer.

The ex-minister, who does not want to be named, says he is aware of evidence that Murdoch, the chairman of News Corporation, relayed messages to Brown last year via a third party, urging him to help take the political heat out of the row, which he felt was in danger of damaging his company...

full story Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/09/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch-gordon-brown)

thunder24

10th April 2011, 00:35

Rocky_Shorz

11th April 2011, 18:57

last night I was out for a walk and sat down in the grass next to a pond and watched a Black Swan slowly swim towards me...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jx78YcF-F8U/TR0ih7oR5UI/AAAAAAAAD5M/GyBB9suhuSQ/s320/Black_Swan.jpg

Today just for fun I went searching for meaning behind it and ran across this...

By Christian A. DeHaemer | Thursday, December 30th, 2010

On April 17, 1793, three French soldiers broke into the tomb of Michel de Nostredame, a man we know as Nostradamus.
Legend has it that one man, a Corporal Adelaide, picked up the skull in an attempt to gain the power of the long dead seer.
His fellow soldiers bore witness that his eyes opened wide as he gained full knowledge, then was immediately struck down and killed by an errant bullet, fired from the nearby riots.
A plaque around the neck of the corpse read 1793.
It is by channeling the ghost of Nostrodamus — as if drinking blood from the very skull itself — that I give you my Black Swans for 2011.

Black Swans
For those of you who don't know, Black Swans are unpredictable events that destroy prediction models...

4/11/11 Black Swan event? (http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2010/12/black-swans-for-2011.html)

was this a confirmation we just hopped another timeline?

thunder24

12th April 2011, 02:22

The power of the written word, the single spark of the thoughts, have the power to shift any time.
peace

modwiz

12th April 2011, 09:30

thunder24

12th April 2011, 10:36

Sensual One

12th April 2011, 10:37

Rocky_Shorz

12th April 2011, 16:22

acually many are still clueless about Charles sudden appearance when he did, destiny draws many togther for a moment that creates a spark of Change...

when he showed up it triggered an activation for me to move forward and if none of you have noticed...

Changes are happening...

The world is watching and listening, and I know Charles is too...

modwiz

12th April 2011, 20:29

:photo:Glen Beck needs the board of education put the seat of his understanding... Its amazing how things are being discussed, and then like the 100th monkey theory, bam lightbulbs start turning on everywhere. Thankfully the 33 are now listening. I wonder though how the threat of a government shutdown is going to affect this nation and the globe, since "we are the defenders of freedom"?!?

I've been screaming peace in the middle east since '91, hopefully the israelis that are putting this plan together can make head way into the hearts and minds of the fundamentalist Christians here, and the rest of the area there.

Gold's Green's and Blue's are the colors i choose.

peace
:tinfoil3:

Queen disolves Canada's parliament...and now we talking bout it, hhhmmm me thinks some are getting itchy in there britchy

This is meant as an update to keep us all current. There is no longer a 33. Before "Charles" left here he mentioned this. It is a fact. Whatever the new number is, it is less than 33.

I am referring to 33 bloodlines, not individuals. Almost seems symbolic. Even if they are fractureing in cohesion, does that reduce the number? i.e."We are one, we are many"

With there being info left unspoken, charles credibility is in question for me. I need more info, and thats only for me, can't speak for anyone else. NO disrespect towards him.

Modwiz, are you still in contact with Charles? If so what has been shared with you? You say "It is fact", please explain how you came to this conclusion. NO disrespect intended towards you either, I'm only seeking.
peace

I say it is a fact because Charles said so while he was here and it has nothing to do with me being in contact with him. I will say that my maintaining some contact has allowed me to confirm that "fact", which refers to the 33 individuals. The bloodlines run to about 427 and would include names you recognize like, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Astor and Bush to mention a few.

Charles left when he realized that no matter what he said there would still be confusion, misunderstanding and the inability to connect dots. We here at forums like this are in a fishbowl that government agencies peer into and monitor. Blatant information would be a gift to them. Laying out dots to connect is not hard work for keen minds, the kind of minds the alternative community claims to lay hold of. Well, some of us had no trouble "hearing" Charles at all. As well as hearing him we could "see" each other. It was very interesting time here at Avalon. One that was very special. We were given a great opportunity and as a community treated it with a strange regard.

Inelia will soon share her wisdom with Avalon and then a new chapter will unfold.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

:photo:Glen Beck needs the board of education put the seat of his understanding... Its amazing how things are being discussed, and then like the 100th monkey theory, bam lightbulbs start turning on everywhere. Thankfully the 33 are now listening. I wonder though how the threat of a government shutdown is going to affect this nation and the globe, since "we are the defenders of freedom"?!?

I've been screaming peace in the middle east since '91, hopefully the israelis that are putting this plan together can make head way into the hearts and minds of the fundamentalist Christians here, and the rest of the area there.

Gold's Green's and Blue's are the colors i choose.

peace
:tinfoil3:

Queen disolves Canada's parliament...and now we talking bout it, hhhmmm me thinks some are getting itchy in there britchy

This is meant as an update to keep us all current. There is no longer a 33. Before "Charles" left here he mentioned this. It is a fact. Whatever the new number is, it is less than 33.

It might no longer be 33 (masonic joke?) but to me it still remains nothing but a fairy tale given to us by someone who has yet to prove himself credible.

(To a melody) "Fairy tales can come true, they can happen to you, if you're young at heart".

Rocky_Shorz

12th April 2011, 21:03

Palestinians are ready...

It says the Palestinian Authority - which has limited self-rule government in the West Bank - has built up areas such as governance, rule of law, health and social services, and infrastructure up to a level expected of a state.

The PA has set itself a September deadline to be ready for statehood, with the hope of pressuring the international community to recognise a Palestinian state on all of the territory Israel occupied in 1967, including Gaza - over which PA President Mahmoud Abbas has no control.

Hamas - which governs Gaza - rejects any deal that recognizes Israel...

article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13051355)

I will deal with Hamas and give them 2 choices...

Accept Israel as a peaceful neighboring Nation or you will be merged into Egypt...

I do not have time to argue...

Israel, who is stepping forward with a serious offer?

Four of those who died were militants from the Islamic Jihad group. Israel says they had been involved in firing rockets across the border.

The other four were civilians killed by stray Israeli shelling on Tuesday evening.

They included an 11-year-old and a 16-year-old boy who had been playing football outside their home east of Gaza City when they died.

At least 12 others were injured in the attack, including eight children.

As night fell on Tuesday, the sound of ambulances could be heard racing through Gaza City carrying the wounded to Shifa Hospital.

Relatives screamed and wailed as blood-spattered children were brought into the emergency room.

Similar scenes were repeated at Jerusalem's Hadassah hospital after Wednesday's bomb attack.

Israel has said it regrets the death of Palestinian civilians. A spokeswoman for the Israeli Defence Force, Avital Liebervich, told me by telephone that Israeli forces were taking care not to cause civilian casualties.

She said Israel has been targeting militants, Hamas training facilities, smuggling tunnels and weapons factories.

This week, Abu Mohammed Dahlul showed me around what used to be his metal workshop in the Shaijayiah neighbourhood of Gaza City...

This month thousands of Palestinian demonstrators - inspired by uprisings elsewhere in the Middle East and North Africa - have taken to the streets of Gaza calling for political unity between Hamas and its secular rival Fatah.

For more than four years the two factions have been politically and geographically divided, with Hamas in power in Gaza and Fatah running parts of the West Bank.

The split happened when violence erupted a year after Hamas won Palestinian elections in 2006.

The protests in Gaza have been on a relatively small scale compared to elsewhere in the region, but Hamas has used force to break up some of the demonstrations.

"I think Hamas knows that an escalation with Israel will take attention away from these protests," says Dr Abu Sada...

STOP THE VIOLENCE!!! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12854225)

for those who think this isn't possible, it is...

Jerusalem (CNN) -- The Palestinian Authority's president has called for an emergency meeting of the Arab League over the escalation of conflict between the Israeli military and Gaza-based militants, the Palestinian Authority-run news agency WAFA said on Saturday.

President Mahmoud Abbas asked the Cairo-based organization to convene on Sunday, PLO Executive Committee member Saeb Erakat said, according to WAFA.

In the latest fighting on Saturday, Israeli air force struck and killed three Hamas personnel in southern Gaza, according to both the Israeli military and Palestinian medics. The Israel Defense Forces said the people were a senior Hamas military wing leader and his two bodyguards.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/04/09/israel.violence/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Rocky_Shorz

13th April 2011, 02:30

Obama’s address on the federal debt, to be delivered tomorrow afternoon at George Washington University in the capital...

George Washington would be proud seeing how he is trying to bring the country together for difficult times, to work together in moving forward.

“You can’t simply slash entitlements, lower taxes and call that a fair deal,” Obama’s spokesman, Jay Carney, said yesterday.

Briefing Lawmakers

The president planned to brief bipartisan congressional leaders at the White House tomorrow, before the speech. Those expected to attend, according to the White House, include House Speaker John Boehner, Republican of Ohio; U.S. Representatives Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California; Eric Cantor, Republican of Virginia; Steny Hoyer, Democrat of Maryland; Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Senators Dick Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, and Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona.

Signaling the political challenge for the president, Boehner said in a statement anticipation of Obama’s speech that “tax increases are unacceptable and are a non-starter.”
link (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12/obama-said-to-call-for-cuts-in-entitlements-higher-taxes.html)

It won't be easy, he is fighting people that feel 400 elites deserve $110 Billion in tax cuts, paid for by the 330 million Americans...

Republicans and tea party members, you will be judged by We the People...

if you think their 400 votes are more important than our 300 million... think again...

Get money directly into the communities, go with direct funding by the Treasury, keep big banks out of the loop

modernize banks like I laid out making it easier for the public investors...

We can do this, but must do it together, do you understand?

Rocky_Shorz

13th April 2011, 02:49

Gadhafi and Mubarak both of you asked for the same thing, forgiveness from the people, willing to give anything to be able to continue watching the country you love move into a first world country...

it is understood you feel what you did was self defense, you will be forgiven, but it will take giving it all.

If I were you, standing up in court in front of the people, this is what I would offer... every penny of your hidden money must be moved into the central bank of your country to fund its future growth, all oil income, direct to the people's bank. The central bank will direct funds to the community levels.

now that is a start, but to earn the forgiveness of your people, you must become one of them, working beside them to rebuilt the country for the same amount of money they make...

you are going to have mothers come to you crying, hitting your chest, to give her peace, you must accept responsibility and say sorry, take every penny from your pocket and give it to her...

go to her home and help pick up the destruction, build her a new roof...

not only will it teach you really how wonderful your people are, but show you the struggles first hand...

You will never be their leader again, but you will at least go down in history for what you did for them instead of the end of a rope...

after the country is earning enough to feed their families, enough food in storage to feed the population...

then you can ask your country for enough to retire...

just be happy when they are happy, that is really all that matters for a leader...

Rocky_Shorz

13th April 2011, 19:27

I see in today's headlines...

Libya group agrees 'trust fund' for rebels - International contact group calls on Gaddafi to step down to "allow Libyan people to determine their own future".

The international contact group on Libya has agreed to set up a temporary "trust fund" to help the international community channel assets to the opposition Transitional National Council in Benghazi.

In a statement issued at the conclusion of Wednesday's one-day summit in Doha, Qatar, the group united to call on Libya's longterm leader Muammar Gaddafi to step down.

"Gaddafi and his regime has lost all legitimacy and he must leave power allowing the Libyan people to determine their own future," the group said.

The financial mechanism being set up will allow international donations to be made - possibly from frozen assets of the Gaddafi administration - and made directly available to Gaddafi's opponents...

"Statements from the UK and Qatar have agreed that the situation in Benghazi is urgent. And most is due to a lack of cash - it's not all about heavy weapons for frontline fighters; it's also about being able to pay public servants and getting schools back open."

After the conference, Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber bin Muhammad Al Thani, Qatar's prime minister, said that Gaddafi must step down.

"Those around him should advise him that it is in the best interests of Libya," he said. "This is the ideal scenario, for the safety of everyone - including himself and his family."

full story (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/04/20114134730363347.html)

Rocky_Shorz

13th April 2011, 19:39

Israel, you aren't making this very easy...

April 11th 2011

"Gaza City officials: Weekend strikes targeted water facilities"

Officials in the Gaza Strip's northernmost municipality accused Monday, Israeli forces of striking drinking water sources and infrastructure during a weekend of violence that saw at least 18 dead in the coastal enclave.

Gaza's municipality released a report, cataloging damage to the water infrastructure from artillery shells over the weekend, which included damages to the Al-Mintar water tank in Al-Quba area of Gaza City, which gives water to the eastern areas of Ash-Shuj'iyeh neighborhood.

The area was targeted for an estimated one third of strikes over the weekend, marked as the deadliest three days since the close of Israel's Operation Cast Lead, which killed more than 1,400 Palestinians in 22 days in the winter of 2008-9.

Damages to the tank were sustained, and one exploded shell landed inside the water reservoir. Officials said the shell rendered the water undrinkable, and stopped pumping from the tank, leaving a large swath of the eastern Gaza City residents without access to potable water.

With building materials still subject to Israel's blockade of Gaza, officials said they would attempt ad hoc repairs, and clean the tank for use...

story link (http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/ht/display/ContentDetails/i/28541/pid/895)

thunder24

13th April 2011, 20:50

I have real questions about the "official" leadership at the helm of Israel at the present moment. Personally I do not see where these so called leaders are willing to relinquish control to others in the sense of running the nation. Many crimes against humanity are being conducted on BOTH SIDES, not to mention the United States continued funding of such terrorism. I praise the Israelis that are pushing for a peaceful end to this madness, but without the end of the terror and war there, How are the leaders going to relinquesh control?

What is up with Soros-Obama loaning 2 billion to brazil to drill for oil?

Rocky_Shorz

14th April 2011, 22:10

naaa, bad info on the net...

Q: Did Obama loan $2 billion to Brazil’s oil company to benefit China and George Soros?

A: The president had nothing to do with the loan, which the Export-Import Bank approved for Brazil to buy U.S.-made equipment and services.

This claim stems from a "preliminary committment" made back on April 14 by the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. The bank intends to loan up to $2 billion to finance exports to the Brazilian oil company Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., known as Petrobras, over the next several years.

The e-mail is false on two counts.

* The message falsely says the decision was due to an "executive order" by the president. No presidential order was required. Furthermore, none of President Obama’s appointees had joined the Ex-Im board at the time of the vote, which was unanimous, and bipartisan. The Ex-Im Bank states: "In fact, at the time the Bank’s Board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush."
* The message falsely claims that "we have absolutely no gain" from the loan. In fact, the loan is being made specifically to finance purchase by Petrobras of U.S.-made oilfield equipment and services. The mission of the Ex-Im Bank is to encourage exports by making such loans.

The bank’s chairman and president, Fred P. Hochberg, underscored the purpose of the loan during a trip to Brazil at the end of July:...
Bogus Claim (http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/)

did you like in his speech when he said...

In the last decade, the average income of the bottom 90 percent of all working Americans actually declined. Meanwhile, the top 1 percent saw their income rise by an average of more than a quarter of a million dollars each. That's who needs to pay less taxes?

They want to give people like me a $200,000 tax cut that's paid for by asking 33 seniors each to pay $6,000 more in health costs. That's not right. And it's not going to happen as long as I'm President...
link (http://www.npr.org/2011/04/13/135383045/president-obamas-speech-on-deficit-cutting)