RogeRio
3rd September 2019, 14:31
I'm opening this thread as an attempt to create a common sense about Soul, Conscienciousness and Spirit concepts. The approaches bellow not take into account any religious doctrine or philosophical current, so is relatively free of bias and not intended to present here the ultimate words on the subject.
Also, isn't intended to promote personally who write the words, but what is writed that can be useful as a common sense to support the general understandment about the subjects.
post #8 from another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108398-An-Amazing-Suicide-NDE-I-seem-to-need-to-keep-watching&p=1311180&viewfull=1#post1311180)
The first aspect is your soul. Your soul is not a being in and of itself, but rather the blueprint for the person you are. It starts off as a "program", with a set of built-in polarities - inclinations toward certain things, aversion toward other things. It then gathers more information as you progress through life, or in the event of reincarnation - which I personally believe to be a voluntary choice, rather than a rule - as you progress through your many lives. But the soul itself is not alive. It is merely information, and because of that, it is actually a filter for consciousness, like a colored lens that you look though.
I (personally) agree with this description about the "Energetic Body", with a " set of built-in polarities, inclinations ", that match with Energy fields and flux descriptions.
Also, " is not a being in and of itself ", remarks the Energy nature as the more simple matter of the Universe, which form everything, lifeless and lifeness, including a Soul (a lifeless form with a set of built-in polarities)
Going On, another (energy) Magnetic Function of the Soul " It then gathers more information as you progress through life, or in the event of reincarnation " , that means the Soul can experience consecutive lives in adverse conditions, while memories are magnetically recorded in It.
How the energy and magnetism record Memories (pieces of information) is another fascinant subject, that must be researched timely, but for now, I would like to repeat the phrase " the soul itself is not alive. It is merely information, and because of that, it is actually a filter for consciousness ".
This argue its much more accurate than it appears, because everything there exists, have a consciential principle behind It, and So, " the Soul its a energetic filter to serve the consciousness " .. a good catch to Next topic !
If the choice is made by Creator or by the (individual) consciousness don't matters here, But I advance that the Creator dispose originally a range of options to set the choice of each Soul creation, maybe "to the soul group" creation.
The second aspect is your consciousness. Many people equate this to the soul, but this is wrong too. Your consciousness is life - it is that which animates all things and makes them be what they were meant to be, just like the electrons coming out of the wall power socket are passing through your refrigerator and make it be a refrigerator, and then they pass through your ceiling light, and they make it be a ceiling light, and so on. Without those electrons, the objects mentioned here are only dead weight. They are meaningless. A refrigerator that isn't working isn't a refrigerator anymore. A light that isn't working isn't a light.
However, like those electrons that pass through all of your electrical appliances, consciousness is a field. See, you don't actually have consciousness, but instead, consciousness has you. You, and I, and everyone else, we are all merely figments of the imagination of this one consciousness field that animates each and every one of us, and, by looking through our soul as if it were a lens - here's that word again - it gives us that first-person perspective that allows us to say "This is me. This is who I am. I am the Self, and you are the Other."
I Said " everything there exists, have a consciential principle behind It " and Aragorn said " it is that which animates all things and makes them be what they were meant to be ".
The issue of electrons, is the soul that does the energetic work, but according our reasoning, it is the Consciousness that controls the Soul (and everything else).
Then, I simple repeat the phrase " See, you don't actually have consciousness, but instead, consciousness has you. " , endorsing, that the consciousness has everything, everywhere, including, you, me, we, indeed ... this original approach can be incredibly real and reasonable.
" the third aspect - that which I personally like calling the spirit - which is the being that you are, the first-person perspective to yourself and the second- or third-person perspective in the eyes of someone else - or otherwise put, the individual, the soul that was animated by the consciousness field. "
We can say the Spirit are a set of Subtil Bodies (mental, psych, magnetic) that its analog the (energetic) Soul but are made of respective subtle matter. This (spirit) bodies can change form, field, color, intensity, according our state of health, mood, wills and other interests, and can be perceived by the sensitives.
The indigenous sage people (like shaman) often said about the Great Spirit. This thread "The Question of God and the Nature of God (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108434-The-Question-of-God-and-the-Nature-of-God)" deals with this subject.
I had open another (nice mistic) thread about Great Spirit How God Talks To You (ancient US indigenous pray and commandments) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108361-How-God-Talks-To-You--ancient-US-indigenous-pray-and-commandments-)
About Soul and Conscienciousness, I also posted "here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108360-Consciousness-and-Energy&p=1310686&viewfull=1#post1310686)" the following words:
Soul and Conscienciousness can be considered the same Being in two stages of evolution. (starting and ending, for reference). That way, the Soul after being choose to be an "individual being", goes through an entire evolutionary process to grow from a naive state (soul) to a utterly free individual aware about who I'm, what I'm, where I came from and where I'm going to. All this awareness (or not) works in present (life) times, in a very cohesive and coherent way.
(note - when this cohesive and coherent way breaks, distort or deviates, the Soul suffers the consequences)
Then, the difference between a newborn Soul and a utterly Free Conscienciousness It's a long learning and growing process, inside the universe where the Soul borns (born here it's a metaphor .. ok?)
It's not much, but I think the content gathered here serves as a starting point for fostering a useful common sense about the concepts covered.
Also, isn't intended to promote personally who write the words, but what is writed that can be useful as a common sense to support the general understandment about the subjects.
post #8 from another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108398-An-Amazing-Suicide-NDE-I-seem-to-need-to-keep-watching&p=1311180&viewfull=1#post1311180)
The first aspect is your soul. Your soul is not a being in and of itself, but rather the blueprint for the person you are. It starts off as a "program", with a set of built-in polarities - inclinations toward certain things, aversion toward other things. It then gathers more information as you progress through life, or in the event of reincarnation - which I personally believe to be a voluntary choice, rather than a rule - as you progress through your many lives. But the soul itself is not alive. It is merely information, and because of that, it is actually a filter for consciousness, like a colored lens that you look though.
I (personally) agree with this description about the "Energetic Body", with a " set of built-in polarities, inclinations ", that match with Energy fields and flux descriptions.
Also, " is not a being in and of itself ", remarks the Energy nature as the more simple matter of the Universe, which form everything, lifeless and lifeness, including a Soul (a lifeless form with a set of built-in polarities)
Going On, another (energy) Magnetic Function of the Soul " It then gathers more information as you progress through life, or in the event of reincarnation " , that means the Soul can experience consecutive lives in adverse conditions, while memories are magnetically recorded in It.
How the energy and magnetism record Memories (pieces of information) is another fascinant subject, that must be researched timely, but for now, I would like to repeat the phrase " the soul itself is not alive. It is merely information, and because of that, it is actually a filter for consciousness ".
This argue its much more accurate than it appears, because everything there exists, have a consciential principle behind It, and So, " the Soul its a energetic filter to serve the consciousness " .. a good catch to Next topic !
If the choice is made by Creator or by the (individual) consciousness don't matters here, But I advance that the Creator dispose originally a range of options to set the choice of each Soul creation, maybe "to the soul group" creation.
The second aspect is your consciousness. Many people equate this to the soul, but this is wrong too. Your consciousness is life - it is that which animates all things and makes them be what they were meant to be, just like the electrons coming out of the wall power socket are passing through your refrigerator and make it be a refrigerator, and then they pass through your ceiling light, and they make it be a ceiling light, and so on. Without those electrons, the objects mentioned here are only dead weight. They are meaningless. A refrigerator that isn't working isn't a refrigerator anymore. A light that isn't working isn't a light.
However, like those electrons that pass through all of your electrical appliances, consciousness is a field. See, you don't actually have consciousness, but instead, consciousness has you. You, and I, and everyone else, we are all merely figments of the imagination of this one consciousness field that animates each and every one of us, and, by looking through our soul as if it were a lens - here's that word again - it gives us that first-person perspective that allows us to say "This is me. This is who I am. I am the Self, and you are the Other."
I Said " everything there exists, have a consciential principle behind It " and Aragorn said " it is that which animates all things and makes them be what they were meant to be ".
The issue of electrons, is the soul that does the energetic work, but according our reasoning, it is the Consciousness that controls the Soul (and everything else).
Then, I simple repeat the phrase " See, you don't actually have consciousness, but instead, consciousness has you. " , endorsing, that the consciousness has everything, everywhere, including, you, me, we, indeed ... this original approach can be incredibly real and reasonable.
" the third aspect - that which I personally like calling the spirit - which is the being that you are, the first-person perspective to yourself and the second- or third-person perspective in the eyes of someone else - or otherwise put, the individual, the soul that was animated by the consciousness field. "
We can say the Spirit are a set of Subtil Bodies (mental, psych, magnetic) that its analog the (energetic) Soul but are made of respective subtle matter. This (spirit) bodies can change form, field, color, intensity, according our state of health, mood, wills and other interests, and can be perceived by the sensitives.
The indigenous sage people (like shaman) often said about the Great Spirit. This thread "The Question of God and the Nature of God (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108434-The-Question-of-God-and-the-Nature-of-God)" deals with this subject.
I had open another (nice mistic) thread about Great Spirit How God Talks To You (ancient US indigenous pray and commandments) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108361-How-God-Talks-To-You--ancient-US-indigenous-pray-and-commandments-)
About Soul and Conscienciousness, I also posted "here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108360-Consciousness-and-Energy&p=1310686&viewfull=1#post1310686)" the following words:
Soul and Conscienciousness can be considered the same Being in two stages of evolution. (starting and ending, for reference). That way, the Soul after being choose to be an "individual being", goes through an entire evolutionary process to grow from a naive state (soul) to a utterly free individual aware about who I'm, what I'm, where I came from and where I'm going to. All this awareness (or not) works in present (life) times, in a very cohesive and coherent way.
(note - when this cohesive and coherent way breaks, distort or deviates, the Soul suffers the consequences)
Then, the difference between a newborn Soul and a utterly Free Conscienciousness It's a long learning and growing process, inside the universe where the Soul borns (born here it's a metaphor .. ok?)
It's not much, but I think the content gathered here serves as a starting point for fostering a useful common sense about the concepts covered.