The secret of immortality [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Iyakum

18th September 2019, 12:02

Before I write down my thoughts here. I would like to say that this thought has nothing to do with God, Jesus, religion and faith.

I'm a believer myself, but religion does not matter, so please do not get me wrong.

I have been thinking about "immortality" for a very long time. So far, I have always thought that the solution lies in the evolution or evolution of humanity. My thoughts were focused on conventional medicine, research, so that I left no room for other thoughts.

By other thoughts I mean, nature, mother nature as we are. Just as Mother Nature created us. All I am writing now is my personal thoughts and opinions. Who do not have to agree with others.

I start with nature. There are living beings in our nature who are able to live very long. Like turtles that can live to be 200 years old.

Then there is a jellyfish species, "Turritopsos nutricula" From them, the specialized cells form again. Instead of dying, this jellyfish will be young again. In this way, "Turritopsos nutricula" can live forever. The fact that most jellyfish of this species are still not hundreds of millions of years old, is due to the many predators in the sea.

Ok that's just one example, this jellyfish species has a gene that keeps the cells from renewing itself at all times or at intervals, so it could be immortal. We humans possess this gene as well, only it is inactive with us.

But if we come back to us humans, regardless of the fact that we carry such genes within us, we are able to gain immortality as well.

When I read through posts where the member wrote, he / she can leave the body and return. In some posts, the members were young when they left their bodies. Whether that is crucial, I do not know. But what I think is the sooner we recognize our gifts, the more time they have to use and refine or even learn more.

I've never tried to leave my body, not on my own. But the experience I've been able to do. I could feel like I was stepping forward, but I did not take the step, I could feel like I was stepping forward, but I did not take the step, it was not my body taking that step.

It felt like the whole body became energy and wanted to leave the solid body. I got scared because I had not had such an experience by that time.

I could see the moment my energy released from my body. It was light, slightly bluish and a little red.

Let's return to the topic, that was just my personal experience that I wanted to share with you.
For some years I have been thinking about whether we are unable to return to our childhood. Although it would be possible, which I do not want to exclude, there is a catch. I want to take the knowledge that I own today.

Because for me personally it would make no sense to be physically and mentally young. For how should I develop myself if I can not take all the knowledge I have today?

However others think about it. "Personally, I believe that the secret of immortality lies within ourselves." The only thing stopping us from trying is time. But if there are like-minded people, why should not we try to find like-minded people? Who pass on their knowledge, their know-how, to those who think so? ...

The secret of immortality lies in us, we just have to take this step.

Bill Ryan

18th September 2019, 12:12

The analogy here may be with a car we might own and drive. It ages over the years, is no longer new, and things gradually break — often minor, but sometimes major. In the end, no matter how much we love it, we just have to get a new one.

The same with our bodies: miraculous biomachines which we 'drive'. They're our 'Avatar' interface with physical reality.

But there's no advantage at all in keeping that biomachine running forever. We can always just get a new one.

The real issue is the amnesia. People who want to have immortal bodies are often just trying to solve the amnesia problem. If that just wasn't there, death (and rebirth!) really would just be a simple, totally-non-scary thing.

greybeard

18th September 2019, 12:40

Enlightenment is the removal of ignorance--the ignorance being that we may think we are the body and mind predominantly and a small part of though might accept that we are the in-dweller within the body.
We carry on after the death of the body
The ignorance being the thought that we are not immortal.
Ignorance is not being stupid just the lack of knowledge.
Chris

Mark (Star Mariner)

18th September 2019, 13:05

Already knowing the soul is immortal, I'm not sure I'd ever want immortality in one body. I don't see the point.

Even if you could engineer the 'perfect' body, one that lasted forever, and you remained incarnated in that body indefinitely, you'd eventually plateau and never (spiritually) progress any further. One of the key reasons we reincarnate into different ones is the variety it affords. Different lives in different environments, in bodies with different sizes, shapes and colours, weaknesses and strengths, both male and female, etc.

It seems to me that transhumanists would look to technology to achieve everlasting life. There is a purpose behind that flawed 'ideology', best left for another thread. But one reason might be: if you can never die, you can keep on doing what you want to do without having to face any (karmic) consequences.

Mercedes

18th September 2019, 13:22

We are immortal, we are immortal beings, this time we just happen to have a human body that ages and dies. I am looking forward to my transition out of this reality.

Iyakum

18th September 2019, 13:24

Hi Bill,

Thank you for your wise words, it's always nice when you share your wisdom with us.
First of all, I do not believe in rebirth or reincarnation. As for amnesia, I agree with you completely. Thank you for your point of view, it opens my knot and that makes me rethink.

Maybe I'm megalomaniac, I admit it. I know no boundaries, that has been so since my childhood. But it really developed after the first encounter with an aura that protected me. After this experience, I thought to myself why am I not able to accomplish the same thing?

All members of the Avalon Forum are here because they had or have experiences that they would like to share with others. When I read all the posts I have read so far, I feel like a little light. Anyway, there are contributions that seem very marginal to me at the first reading.

Nevertheless, I do not answer, I read the post more often to understand what the creator wants to tell us. I am very grateful for that. My idea of "immortality" has arisen from ... "my life experiences, my temporary loss of faith in God, feeling and seeing brutality, fears not only for me, but also for others who were or are helpless."

After all my experiences, I came to the idea. "I wish for immortality, to keep that to my knowledge, out of the desire to do good". That was the original idea and it still is. That's why I'm trying to find out if immortality is possible and if so how? I am aware that I will reach its limits. Nevertheless, I have a spark of hope and as long as the spark is there, I will continue to search.

Unfortunately there is a lot of suffering on earth. Sorry that even someone of the immortal can never solve alone. I do not know if God is capable of this. I know that many people want to do good and maybe think like me. At some point we will be able to achieve immortality, which is probably in the distant future. I just keep looking for it, let's see what happens. :)

Iyakum

18th September 2019, 13:42

We are immortal, we are immortal beings, this time we just happen to have a human body that ages and dies. I am looking forward to my transition out of this reality.

@Mercedes,
Thank you for your contribution, something similar I have thought. But then I strayed from this path and took a different path. Nevertheless, I find your words great. Alone the joy I can read, I feel so far. Thank you for your contribution.

Caliban

18th September 2019, 14:19

Why would you want to live forever on this planet? Sure it's lovely, but look what's happening.

And would you really want to wake up to bloody leafblowers for all of eternity?

RogeRio

18th September 2019, 14:34

I agree with Bill, the amnesia makes us unable to remember the condition of immortality (at least in part)

I have sympathy for what Iyakum writes, not for what he knows, or thinks he knows, but for the effort he makes for knowing through friendly dialogue, demonstrating ability to find some right answers, like that:

.. we carry such genes within us ... The secret of immortality lies in us

( but these two things can mean the same thing, depending on the point of view )

For some years I have been thinking about whether we are unable to return to our childhood.

Hollywood also think about, and make the movie The Curious Case of Benjamin Burton (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421715/)
This movie is emblematic, and contains secrets you're looking for.
The biggest secret is not in the details, but in the whole story.

let me alluding a few to your beliefs, So,
I suggest watch the movie and thinking on a famous talk about Jesus - " come to me the little children ".

The only thing stopping us from trying is time.

Time, emotions, memories, (also ammnesia), are the keywords

be aware of that -- Everything that have and Start (time), will have a Finished (time) ahead.
even this whole (time-dependent universe), as it is mystified by hindus, in Bhraman's breath

another (rational) thing to think on this context is -- space/time and time/space densities, are "Limited Regions" inside the whole Thing that you are researching, and if you think in a possible Timeless Region outer this Time Limited Densities, the immortality should be a fact, but can't be replicated inside time/space regions, because it would become a incompatible (and unfair) temporal paradox.

It may seem confusing at first, but everything I'm writing here, one way or another, will help with the topic.

Why would you want to live forever on this planet?

Good Catch !! this kind of question also helps ..

Iyakum

18th September 2019, 15:20

Everything written about my topic / thread is helpful. I do not care if my thinking or my desire for immortality is called into question. I'm happy about constructive criticism and answers, because just these help me on. What would a question be without criticism or different views and ways of thinking?

Then I could have saved myself the effort and can use it elsewhere. I can only learn from it and see nothing negative in criticism from others. Thanks, because that's what I wanted to achieve.

Ernie Nemeth

18th September 2019, 16:17

Iyakum

18th September 2019, 19:53

Sorry, for the post.

Last night, I was a bit confused. I was very worried about a member of Avalon, "# 22"
Therefore, I could not think clearly.

I have published parts of my life that I believe are too early, but too long. Because in case I should tell you or it is desired. I would have to go very far, that would be a very long text.

Nevertheless, it would be worth to know, this is my first encounter and the following. Although I'm not sure if I was misdirected or if it made sense. If desired, I will gladly share it with you.

Words of Joy

18th September 2019, 20:04

I am definitely not going to die again. Not this time. Immortality is very doable and I know I'm going to make it. It took me 40 years to figure it out. It has been reached before and will be reached again.

It used to be the road of perfection. The road of the good deeds. The road of the ascended masters from millennia ago. They used the water of immortality or the holy fire to attain immortality. In Zoroastrianism they call it amraity or amarati. In Hinduism and Buddhism they call it Amrita or Amrit, also known as the elixer of Naam or Hari Naam. In Ancient Greece they called it the Ambrozian water of Immortality. They all refer to the same, which is the Spirit of God. The fountain of Life. Which helps a person in becoming holy if that person is open for it. Without the Spirit of God, people will not attain immortality.

The road has changed since Jesus. He is now the road. There is no road of good deeds that leads to immortality anymore. It hurts my heart, though people have been mislead in large numbers. It needs to go through Jesus, the living Spirit, that merged with the Spirit of God. God changed the rules.

Boarding time for the heavenly realm and with that immortality, is not too far ahead, I learned from the Spirit of God. Once the option is missed, strings of reincarnations will await. Whether those are nice lives or lives containing suffering depends on the conduct of life being within Gods rules or not. If a person in this life gets connected with the Fountain of Life aka the Spirit of God through Jesus, then immortality is certain. If one doesn't make it, and dies before the next batch of candidate immortals have gone to the heavenly realms, then who knows a merciful reincarnation might just bring a soul to immortality. Not where I would place my bet though.

Hope to see you all there! :happy dog:
:flower:

greybeard

18th September 2019, 20:13

You didn't die the last time either Stobbe--the body did.
You are eternal according to the Enlightened
Its good to follow the teaching of The Christ.
Chris

bearcow

18th September 2019, 21:27

The real issue is the amnesia. People who want to have immortal bodies are often just trying to solve the amnesia problem. If that just wasn't there, death (and rebirth!) really would just be a simple, totally-non-scary thing.

Overcoming Anmesia is one of the natural byproducts of the gradual Negentropy of the soul. Its internal order must replicate the inherent conditions that have been bestowed upon it when in a healthy, optimally functioning body. An internal alchemical process must be undergone.

Soullight

18th September 2019, 21:45

The Immortal Masters, such as the Siddha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddha) were humans who found a way to stay in their bodies indefinitely, but aren't trapped in their bodies. They can travel out-of-body, or take their bodies with them to virtually anywhere or to any dimension.

With the exception of drugs or technology assisting humans longevity, which IMO is low class and very dangerous to our true essence/being, there are basically four natural/organic type ways that address human's and death.

1. 99.99% of people physically die and cannot stop this process. They die unconsciously, similar to how they fall asleep at night, where they are awake and then drift off to sleep without awareness of the transition.

2. A much smaller percentage, (usually spiritual practitioners like some Tibetan monks), die consciously. This is similar to when someone is awake and then shifts their aware consciousness to an out-of-body state, never losing awareness.

3. An extremely rare percentage don't die at all. These are the Siddhas or Ascended Masters, etc.

4. The most rare category would be those that transcend our reality (our so-called matrix simulation) completely and never deal with living or dying again. At least in the way we know it.

It's up to you to follow whatever path you feel is real or possible.

:) :Party:

Words of Joy

18th September 2019, 23:03

You didn't die the last time either Stobbe--the body did.
You are eternal according to the Enlightened
Its good to follow the teaching of The Christ.
Chris

Yes, the body died loads of times before. But this time my body won't die.

Eternal is the soul, but the combination of soul and spirit is not, as long as the reincarnation cycle continues. When the body dies, the soul and spirit separate. With the Spirit of God connected, the combination of soul and spirit remains and is not separated. That will make that you don't change character and don't forget. Which is an important factor if you like who you are now. :) Your body will, once glorified, receive an upgrade to be able to de-materialize and materialize at will.

Justplain

19th September 2019, 01:36

Yes, as stated above, if you have achieved cosmic consciousness, then you can materialize your body wherever you want. You can also create your own reality. In any case your spirit is immortal. Ascended masters are in this category, as are some of the ETs that visit us (though not all). Earth humans are blessed with the free will take attain this direct connection with their divine source.

RogeRio

19th September 2019, 06:55

to further stimulate this subject of immortality, researchers reports that it was from the eighteenth century mesmerism, that psychic manifestations had the attention of the western academic world. German physician Franz Anton Mesmer (1734-1815) was researching a force called "animal magnetism," a type of force that would control human well-being.

Mesmer initially tried to cure his patients through hypnosis, magnets or magnetized objects, later using his own hands, promoting the rebalancing and remission of disease. From the reports of clairvoyant phenomena, telepathy, premonitions, diagnoses, cures among others exhibited by mesmerized subjects, some authors such as J. P. F. Deleuze (1753-1835); Lawyer J. C. Colquhoun (1785-1854); Charles Lafontaine (1803-1892) and Johann Heinrich Jung-Stilling (1740-1817) claimed that there was sufficient evidence for the existence of an immortal soul independent of the biological body.

:sherlock:

greybeard

19th September 2019, 07:16

There are stories of the deathless Saint Babaji

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIfQVN1Q_k

Chris

TomKat

19th September 2019, 10:31

Iyakum I feel you. When I was sixteen I decided I would teach the world that it is possible to live forever and never get old.

By the time I was thirty just the mere thought of living forever scared the crap out of me. How could I survive the assaults on my sensibilities for eternity? I realized that this is not my world, not even close. And that by living forever I would never experience the joy of reuniting with my Creator!

I modified my original plan and decided I would live a healthy full life - and die in my sleep. That is now my plan and I am well on my way to accomplishing it. Health is really the most we can hope for in this world anyway. Death is just a reprieve. It will soon start again, for most.

Myself, if I have anything to say about it, will never take a body again. I can do more good on the other side where my memories are intact and I know who I am.

The idea is to get your memories intact while here in the body. It seems that not much is accomplished between lives other than a rest from life. If reincarnation is mandatory, which it probably is, the best you can do in this life is to rehabilitate your soul so that your next life will be free of the spiritual issues you faced in this life, including amnesia of previous lives.

TomKat

19th September 2019, 10:35

petra

19th September 2019, 11:40

The real issue is the amnesia. People who want to have immortal bodies are often just trying to solve the amnesia problem. If that just wasn't there, death (and rebirth!) really would just be a simple, totally-non-scary thing.

Thanks Bill, I'll try to consider this the next time my friend tells me he wants to download his consciousness into a robot.

Personally, the idea of immortality scares the crap out of me. I'd probably consider it if I was also immune to torture, because I really don't feel like I'd want to be tortured forever :)

Iyakum

19th September 2019, 11:42

First thanks to @greybird, through his words, I just had an enlightenment.

If there is really a reincarnation after which our bodies die.
So we assume that there is a rebirth. So it can only be the energy that we call soul. This energy floats in space and time, waiting for reincarnation, rebirth. But because we as living people have gained knowledge and experience.

Are we not able to take this knowledge with us when we are born again? Because the newborn baby, child can not handle this amount of information. By that I mean, all our knowledge, all experiences, sorrow, positive, emotions, feelings and also losses. That would not be able to cope with a newborn, let alone be able to process it.

My personal opinion is. The 1st in a reincarnation the knowledge we had was deleted. Then 2. I think that's also the reason why some or many remember a life before their lives. That's just a guess. But still one that is very close. I mean all the members here at Avalon have memories of a previous life.

So where do these memories come from and why are some of them just fragments and maybe more with others? This could create gaps that we are trying to fill. I mean, that's why we're here, right?

petra

19th September 2019, 11:52

Unfortunately there is a lot of suffering on earth. Sorry that even someone of the immortal can never solve alone. I do not know if God is capable of this. I know that many people want to do good and maybe think like me. At some point we will be able to achieve immortality, which is probably in the distant future. I just keep looking for it, let's see what happens. :)

Feels like all I do is "Wait and see".. ;)
As for God being capable, I don't think God is magic either, but I do think God is suffering along with us. I don't believe that suffering is required in order to evolve, to me that's a load of BS.

petra

19th September 2019, 12:08

Sunny-side-up

19th September 2019, 12:58

Hi Iyakum

I think for 'Immortality and or very long life spans' you need to have your tampered with DNA reset/repaired.

We have been limited down, we should all be able to live longer.
Add to that nowadays we are all being slowly, intentionally killed off.

So 0,o

Iyakum

19th September 2019, 14:19

My personal opinion is. The 1st in a reincarnation the knowledge we had was deleted. Then 2. I think that's also the reason why some or many remember a life before their lives. That's just a guess. But still one that is very close. I mean all the members here at Avalon have memories of a previous life.

So where do these memories come from and why are some of them just fragments and maybe more with others? This could create gaps that we are trying to fill. I mean, that's why we're here, right?

Personally I feel as if I'm on my 1st incarnation, and I'd be surprised if anyone else on PA feels similar. I have dreams I am someone/something else, but they don't feel like past life experiences - they feel fake.

I think it's possible that souls could be 'grouping up', and the reason why I think so is because it feels as if I am "dreaming somebody else's dreams". Some of my dreams are so ridiculous, creepy or obscure that I have a really hard time believing they are coming from ME.

@ petra,

I feel you.

Petra, I know it feels weird and strange when you think you dream someone else's dream. That the dream is not meant for you, but you still perceive it and that intensely. Have you thought about writing down these dreams, that could be very important to you.

Since Friday the 06.09 I dream the same dream every night. It does not always happen the same in the dream. I can see myself, I speak, I see the surroundings and others, especially two people, talk to me. Each of the dreams is different. In each one I have to learn, understand, search and discover something. They are strange dreams, yet they do not stop. This annoys so slowly, in every dream I come closer to the solution. So it's not boring.

Also, I think that my dreams are sent to me with full intention. So there must be something that is able to send me those dreams. I can not do anything about it, so I let it happen.

Sue (Ayt)

19th September 2019, 21:40

This is a great discussion here! Thanks Iyakum for starting it.

These thoughts may sound rather child-like to some, but from a “Sethian” view, we might consider simultaneous time and space as to the subject, along with the concept of Oversoul. I think I remember a diagram from Jane Robert’s books that depicts a circle (oversoul) with a number of off-shoots, with each offshoot being a {human?} consciousness. The whole grouping being actually in the eternal NOW.

So, if we step out of the time concept… well - each little offshoot is contributing to the development of the oversoul NOW. Plus - as I remember, the Oversouls themselves are offshoots of yet a higher and larger oversoul. (Seth II, in the books) And so on, and so on, and so on… (most likely leading to the whole banana, which we are All In.)

Anyway - thinking of these concepts has led me to meditations where I try to imagine zooming out and connecting upward to that Oversoul, and sometimes then zooming back down and connecting to other little “offshoots,” and trying to image-in lovingly sharing the experiences and learnings of some of these other little offshoots.

I like to compare this to all the little cells in our bodies, each fully serving the function of the whole body. If one of these little cells is suffering, though, it’s hard for us to actually pay it much attention. But sometimes I do “zoom in” during meditation and try to focus in on painful areas, and send some love and healing, which I imagine might be what the pain is for. “Hey - a little attention needed here!” On the other hand, if one little cell gets too cocky and decided to go immortal - well, isn’t that what cancer is? The cycle has to serve the whole, and that is health. And if a cell “hops out” of the body, well - I suppose it just joins another form.

I tend to think that consciousness exists in those little cells, and in the atoms if we zoom in even further. And probably we can go in further still. And the same for when we zoom out. Not sure if it ever stops… But it is really rather incomprehensible. No Time, No Space, no dimensions either… Such awesome concepts. That is where trust and faith come in, that it is all Go(o)d, all Love. My experiences have shown me that we are IN God’s Mind.

(just sharing my Ponders)
:sun:

Goba

20th September 2019, 00:04

The analogy here may be with a car we might own and drive. It ages over the years, is no longer new, and things gradually break — often minor, but sometimes major. In the end, no matter how much we love it, we just have to get a new one.
The same with our bodies: .

The biological need to age (although still valid for humans due to our limited understanding) reflects an outdated theory. whereas up to the 90s the "biological aging is like machine aging" was the going theory it has been replaced by aging is 100% determined by genetic traits. There is not need for any biological organism to age, if it does, its programmed.

This was quite obvious even in the 90s but it took time to penetrate the institutions like all new paradigms.
Consider there are species which do not biologically age until a very brief moment prior to death (the biomarkers of aging are unchanged during adult life), then there are species that live thousands of years (we do not know how long as they die due to accidents long before reaching a biological limit), In some a single hormone decides whether an individual lives 1 or 15 years.
So yes, biologically we would not need to age and once we find the epigenetic key we will live much longer, on average 600 years before we will fall prey to accidents or disease as the "allianz" insurance company once found out.

and no, "we" do not survive death as of my experience. something does but its not this identity. In this sense we only live once ....
The past life personas I was able to identify where all very different, even in gender.
I have to agree that the veil sucks, and that would be a good reason to hope we crack the genetic barrier, at least for those of us who have a soul.

Goba

20th September 2019, 00:17

For those who are interested in catching up on the scientific side, this is one book that I can suggest which is still affordable.
Many good books on this issue are beyond US$ 100 because of a very small circle of potential buyers. But his one can be had for 50 and less, and you can buy an older edition. Even the ones from before 2000 will give a lot of insights to the novice although the newer genetic findings are of course missing.

https://www.amazon.com/Longevity-Senescence-Catherine-MacArthur-Foundation/dp/0226248887/

Iyakum

20th September 2019, 11:13

@ Ayt, thank you for your contribution, in which I personally learned a lot that is new to me.

I'll get straight to the point. Regarding time and space. I think that time and space are two different branches. But my knowledge of time and space is limited, I know that exists, but not as detailed as you and others.

But I think that something else has to exist between time and space. I can not prove it yet, I lack the knowledge. But what I think is that there must be room between them. Such a kind of space, in which time does not matter. I try to explain my thoughts.

We all know that it is possible to leave the body and to walk as energy through space and time. But at some point you have to go back into the body, unless you feel well and leave the body forever.

But then you would pull the rest of the energy out of the body then a return would probably not be possible. That's just a guess, I hope the other Avalonian can confirm it. Let's get back to the gap. If this space should exist where we could be as energy beings. Would not it then be possible that the body could get out in time? I admit that exceeds my knowledge, it is then no longer facts.

But as you mentioned earlier, you are able to zoom into your body. The places where there are pains that use a gift to heal. Now my question to you. Suppose you are able to strengthen your healing powers. If you give instructions to the rest of your energy before you leave your body, let your body heal or heal until you return.

Do you think that would be possible? I imagine that to be so. You go into the wild, looking for a place where you are safe, where no one can hurt you. Then you meditate, No.1, to give your energy the instruction to heal your body. No.2 would be to leave your body, during which time you would be in this intermediate space where time does not exist as such. While you're in this room, your body is healing.

I know that sounds and reads pretty illogically. It's just a guess, but if I do not share it, how can I learn from others?

Sue (Ayt)

20th September 2019, 16:46

Now my question to you. Suppose you are able to strengthen your healing powers. If you give instructions to the rest of your energy before you leave your body, let your body heal or heal until you return.

Do you think that would be possible? I imagine that to be so. You go into the wild, looking for a place where you are safe, where no one can hurt you. Then you meditate, No.1, to give your energy the instruction to heal your body. No.2 would be to leave your body, during which time you would be in this intermediate space where time does not exist as such. While you're in this room, your body is healing.

I know that sounds and reads pretty illogically. It's just a guess, but if I do not share it, how can I learn from others?

As I said before, I suspect I am sometimes perceived as kind of child-like, but of course we heal when we travel outside this body-maya place. :-) We do this every night, I think, by design. Sleep takes us beyond time or space every night. It would suck to never sleep! (which is yet another reason why hospitals are not a healing environment, cause they are NOT restful at all! /rant)

I find for me, that I don't so much "instruct" my body or my healing energy, but just access and allow that "love" energy which IS the healing and the health and our natural state. Once accessed, we can share it anywhere. Into our cells, out to our families and communities, even here to PA. ;) (but never ever forcefully. That energy is always ours to access, but always by free will.)

My effort have been to re-member that energy as much and as often and as "always" as I can, be it through meditation, pausing as needed, deep breaths, going barefoot outside - whatever works for each individual to reconnect with that energy that is freely our birthright.
(for me K.I.S.S. is what I have told myself sometimes, as that is what experience has shown to work best for me.)

petra

23rd September 2019, 14:42

Also, I think that my dreams are sent to me with full intention. So there must be something that is able to send me those dreams. I can not do anything about it, so I let it happen.

Me too, absolutely. That's what I think it happening.

I recall thinking "If something's trying to communicate with me... please use my dreams", because supposed other methods of communicating (IE: Numerology/Number Sightings/Deja Vu's/Hallucinations/Voice in my head/Television/Radio) feel either creepy, unpleasant, unsafe, deceptive, or all or that.

I sometimes think of it like "I'm at the mercy of my dreams", but perhaps that's a bit harsh way of thinking about it. Not all of my dreams are bad, they're just very memorable and they're having an effect on me psychologically. I did try writing them down, but I gave that up because it seemed like a waste of time - the ones worth writing down are just so memorable.

I'll get straight to the point. Regarding time and space. I think that time and space are two different branches. But my knowledge of time and space is limited, I know that exists, but not as detailed as you and others.

But I think that something else has to exist between time and space. I can not prove it yet, I lack the knowledge. But what I think is that there must be room between them. Such a kind of space, in which time does not matter. I try to explain my thoughts.

I don't understand your thoughts at all but the premise makes sense!
Keep in mind too, some things cannot be proven using science alone, and this is because science is limited by our intellect (which is also limited!)

To me, what it sounds like you're describing is 4D. "Fourth Density (4D) includes beings that have partially transcended the limitations of space-time." (ref link) (http://montalk.net/metaphys/267/sto-sts-and-densities)

chris_walker

24th September 2019, 12:23

Let's assume we live forever or a very long time on this plane and planet. What happens if we suffer a catastrophic accident? Do we then have to spend thousands of years in a handicapped state, assuming suicide is out of the question?

No, I tend to believe the Gnostics, Robert Monroe and Wes Penre. Our souls are recycled here, returned with amnesia and we are farmed for our loosh. That makes the most logical sense considering how very brutal this planet really is.

Many say, "we are here to learn"? Learn what? If we are immortal beings, we should have learned it all trillions and trillions of years ago. We are either trapped and farmed or we are in a simulation of our own device with the associated amnesia to relieve the unbearable boredom an infinite being must naturally suffer.

Mark (Star Mariner)

24th September 2019, 14:27

My personal opinion is. The 1st in a reincarnation the knowledge we had was deleted. Then 2. I think that's also the reason why some or many remember a life before their lives. That's just a guess. But still one that is very close. I mean all the members here at Avalon have memories of a previous life.

So where do these memories come from and why are some of them just fragments and maybe more with others? This could create gaps that we are trying to fill. I mean, that's why we're here, right?

Personally I feel as if I'm on my 1st incarnation, and I'd be surprised if anyone else on PA feels similar. I have dreams I am someone/something else, but they don't feel like past life experiences - they feel fake.

I think it's possible that souls could be 'grouping up', and the reason why I think so is because it feels as if I am "dreaming somebody else's dreams". Some of my dreams are so ridiculous, creepy or obscure that I have a really hard time believing they are coming from ME.

Dreams can be many different things, but I wouldn't analyse them too strictly. Mostly, they are the reflex of a brain that's at rest. It's a bit like sifting through the recycle bin of the subconscious. When we sleep, it wakes up, and all these stored images, perceptions, and memories from our waking life involuntarily float to the surface, swirl round, 'pop' into being then pop out again. That accounts for most dreams.

But there are other types – dreams of astral travel and even past-life memories. But they are often highly fragmentary. That's because these are experienced at a different level of consciousness (super-consciousness if visiting the spirit world). And when we wake up, they have to be re-translated, down-shifted if you like, into three dimensional reality. That's where the distortion occurs, because our 3D brains cannot render 4D or 5D realities. What made sense in the dream no longer makes any sense, or can even be properly pictured anymore. I've had such dream-memories that literally puffed out of existence seconds after waking - my brain could not hold the perception.