View Full Version : Reserve US Marines activated in claimed imminent US coup attempt
cursichella1
4th October 2019, 23:24
Not to freak out anyone but would love to know what this means. I hope it's just a training thing but some are saying it's not. It's from "The Official Website of the U.S. Marine Corps":
"MANPOWER GUIDANCE FOR ACTIVATION AND DEACTIVATION OF RESERVE COMPONENT (RC) MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES
Date Signed: 10/3/2019 | MARADMINS Number: 550/19..."
(Very lengthy text follows, too much to put here. Link to page is HERE (https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1979422/manpower-guidance-for-activation-and-deactivation-of-reserve-component-rc-marin).)
Thanks in advance to anyone who knows...
Hervé
5th October 2019, 00:17
Jim Stone is paying some attention to it (http://82.221.129.208/.wa4.html):
THE MARINES JUST GOT PERMISSION TO DEPLOY IN THE UNITED STATES (https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1979422/manpower-guidance-for-activation-and-deactivation-of-reserve-component-rc-marin)
Rumor has it that all other armed forces got a similar letter. This particular letter is for the Marines and Navy. Note, the date is October 3, this is something new.
Jade helm was training, done under TRADOC, however, this particular notice authorizes live fire on American soil. Here is the title:
MANPOWER GUIDANCE FOR ACTIVATION AND DEACTIVATION OF RESERVE COMPONENT (RC) MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES
Date Signed: 10/3/2019 | MARADMINS Number: 550/19
Here is a key quote:
"Requests for Federal assistance will come with little warning. As required, the Marine Corps must rapidly mobilize RC units and personnel IAW this MARADMIN in order to respond to threats in the Homeland." What does this mean? It means that civil war in the United States will be answered by America's own armed forces.
However, doing this is risky business, because they will be ordering these soldiers to take action against their own friends and families. This could backfire.
Though the Reserve units have been deployed in the United States for various reasons, having them deploy to "defend civil authorities" is unprecedented, this is something new folks.
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pyrangello
5th October 2019, 00:57
Soooooo, as Newton law states about every action has an equal reaction , I am guessing something is coming up here in the u.s.
1 the Fed is spooning out cash to banks like ice cream out of a barrel so it could be financial
2 all of those subpoenas that supposedly exist out there may start being enforced of arrests in numbers
3 natural event is on the horizon
I don't see a civil war here just because, this country is tapped out of skilled labor and everyone is busy. However the political climate of the extreme left vs.law and order is like a chess game ri ghht now that is locked in checkmate. If there is indeed a push to sweep the swamp like a cornered animal ,anything could turn at that point. I would say at this point lots of prayers for all of the right reasons.
ExomatrixTV
5th October 2019, 01:06
Note - the date is October 3 - this is something new.
This is the key section:
“Requests for Federal assistance will come with little warning. As required, the Marine Corps must rapidly mobilize RC units and personnel IAW this MARADMIN in order to respond to threats in the Homeland.”
What does this mean? It means that any civil war in the United States will be answered by America’s own armed forces (The President's Own).
Though the Reserve units have been deployed in the United States previously for various reasons - having them deploy to “defend civil authorities” is unprecedented.
Have a look here. (https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4155708/pg1)
Dumpster Diver
5th October 2019, 20:16
Posse comitatus, anyone?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
gs_powered
5th October 2019, 22:23
Carl Sagan did mention once: "You have to know the past to understand the present." :amen:
cursichella1
6th October 2019, 00:02
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Ok, whatever it was, was just cancelled. Very strange.
Link to page HERE (https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1980637/cancellation-of-maradmin-30014)
OldArcher
6th October 2019, 09:26
Seriously sounds like intel has been received as to possible/probable terrorist cells being activated in CONUS, if Iran's IRGC and Qud's force elements, as well as other main terrorist orgs are going to be in play, vis-a-vis attacks upon Great and Little Satan... Cinch up your jockstraps, things could get sporty- and very, very, messy...
OldArcher
6th October 2019, 09:30
If cancelled, somebody had either a brain fart to begin with, or tipped to what could happen, should things go pear shaped... Strange in the extreme... Something to ponder, if, and when, things get worse...
Bill Ryan
6th October 2019, 10:29
Hi, Folks: I got this e-mail from a reading non-member. I'll simply post it in full.
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Please read from the first posting and a request for help understanding what it means.
I am not a member but one of yours stated this order had been cancelled and it hasn't.
Please check the dates of both.
Only the old order was cancelled (from Obama administration). The new one still stands. Thank you.
mountain_jim
6th October 2019, 11:58
That cancellation link
https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1980637/cancellation-of-maradmin-30014
is a different MARADMINS order than new one under discussion
https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1979422/manpower-guidance-for-activation-and-deactivation-of-reserve-component-rc-marin
new: MARADMINS Number: 550/19
cancelled: MARADMINS : 041/19
Maybe it's a different number assigned to cancel the other one, I don't know...
Reddit discussion thread with links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/dduoed/the_marines_just_got_permission_to_deploy_in_the/
The Marines Just Got Permission to Deploy in the United States in light of serious threat of a military coup by the UN...here's what I have gathered.
The marines were just authorized to use live fire in the event of domestic civil conflict. It's not the first time reserve units have deployed on US soil, but to "defend civil authorities" is unprecedented, I'm told.
Found this first.
Found this response: Looks like some certain people are threatening a coup
Found the Military Order:
MANPOWER GUIDANCE FOR ACTIVATION AND DEACTIVATION OF RESERVE COMPONENT (RC) MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES
Then learned of the UN threat
The following contains direct evidence that for all intents and purposes, the people of the United States, who are loyal to the President and the Constitution are at war with the international forces from the United Nations who are illegally in our country in great numbers.
Link to article
Then I was shocked to learn this:
Obama signed an Executive Order: United Nations allowed to use Force on US Citizens
Also: The militarization of local police, combined with the arrival of a United Nations military presence, could mean big trouble for liberty and freedom here in America.
Could there be a serious threat of a coup by the UN?
EDITS:
UN angle most likely only rumor, but internal threat of a coup is most likely reason for orders.
Veteran comments:
I would just say that it’s unprecedented. It doesn’t mean that tanks are going to be rolling down the street or anything like that, it just means that US troops can be deployed on very short notice on US soil. The verbiage they use in the notice is specific and honestly, a bit alarming. Hopefully none of it becomes necessary. I’ve seen zero evidence of any real threat aside from the lunatics in congress. The whole UN angle is scuttlebutt, nothing more.
Marines protect POTUS, and Dems are screaming to arrest him and his cabinet. That would be a coup, and a valid reason for our Marines to be deployed for mass arrests of the traitors."
Trump Revoked Obamas Order in March
Unverified report of UN vehicles moving. But UN vehicles are said to be manufactured in the USA.
ExomatrixTV
6th October 2019, 22:53
This projectavalon post was posted on 5th October 2019 ... so how can it be an "exclusive" on 6th of October 2019 here (https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-activates-u-s-marine-reserves-for-emergency-within-the-united-states-to-stop-illegal-coup/) ? :facepalm::phone::sarcastic:
Delight
6th October 2019, 23:48
I just saw this in my inbox....
U.S. Marines reserve units activated for “emergency within the United States” which “will come with little warning” – cites “threats in the Homeland”
Sunday, October 06, 2019 by: Mike Adams (https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-10-06-u-s-marines-reserve-units-ordered-to-activate-for-emergency-within-the-united-states.html)
(Natural News) BREAKING NEWS UPDATE concerning a directive involving the United States Marine Corps reserve units via MARADMINS number 550/19, signed on Oct. 3, 2019, authorized by Brigadier General Daniel L. Shipley, Director, Manpower Plans and Policy.
Notably, Brigadier General Daniel L. Shipley was nominated by President Trump for the rank of major general, according to a Jan. 16, 2019 Defense.gov press announcement. Before serving in his current role, Shipley served as the deputy director, Program Analysis and Evaluation, Department of Programs and Resources for the U.S. Marines.
This new order is summarized as, “MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES.” (The term “ISO” means In Support Of.”) (See full text of the order here.)
Note: There is disinfo being circulated about this order, claiming it was cancelled, but the cancelled order is 300/14, not 500/19. In fact, this new order 500/19 replaces a lot of previous orders, reestablishing the urgency of the situation and making sure any action to defend the Homeland is authorized by orders that are in good standing.
Many observers are concerned that with Democrats like Rep. Tlaib openly talking about which prisons to use for imprisoning President Trump and his cabinet, and with Hillary Clinton positioning herself to run for president, and with the IG’s FISA abuses report set to drop in a few weeks, the deep state Democrats have reached a point of desperation where they may attempt to initiate a “hot coup” (kinetic engagement, arrest or execution of the President and his Cabinet) to avoid going to prison themselves.
shaberon
7th October 2019, 08:53
That is interesting. One would need to dig through the United States Codes used as references.
Nominally, it looks like reserves being called to active duty for not more than 120 days. In 2.B.1, first delegation of command is to the governors. Normal for emergencies, and looks like it would mainly be used to deploy reservists to help with hurricanes and the like. It is more about how they can be activated for a limited term and paid for it.
If used by a combat commander to "prevent property damage", it must comply with Reference A: MCO 3440.7C MARINE CORPS ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES (DSCA).
I am not sure if that says kill everyone who attempts to loot Walmart, or bomb entire groups whose shoes might make scuff marks on the street. Maybe it does.
The 120 days include any training/preparation for the mission. If the wording was unlimited duration, active duty troops, combat authorized against non-combatants, then it would sound more like guns turned on the people (and violate Posse Comitatus, which does not apply to reserves). Actually 2.B.1 is not more than 30 days. 2A for 120 days would only be by request of a Governor. So, the vast majority of the power of whatever this is, is in the hands of state leaders. This is nothing new.
In terms of "active terrorist cells", here is what I noticed. Firstly, I am moving next door to some serious School of the Americas games, including live cannon fire, and some disoriented soldiers that recently ate the neighbor's dog. If you went there, you couldn't tell. Zero markers, no "Property of U. S. Govt.", nothing.
As much as I...don't exactly approve of these thieves training in how to take over "a South American country", recently, at our house, they found what I can only describe as a stereotypical Al Qaeda jihadi marching right down the driveway. Firstly, he was a liar, and repelled with guns, but secondly, since he didn't exactly "fit in", I do not think he was a common criminal, but was looking for another way in to the military facility or if we were connected to it.
It's an ironical sandwich between Federal forces that I don't want, and the "terrorists" they are supposedly protecting me from.
Between those two, and me, could we start something our Governor might call an emergency, yes, I think we could. What is worse is I have the means to find out where the jihadi came from. In the ideal, I could set off both sides, making each think the other did it. Pre-emptive strike to keep them out of my yard. But it would be a lot of trouble, and I have other priorities.
Why would there be a Civil War in the United States? There never was. It would consist of two sides struggling for control of the government. The Confederacy was trying to fight its way out, not in.
If someone was to get itchy and shoot Fort Sumter or something like that, the Governors already have National Guard Apaches loaded with rocket salvos. They can already vaporize anyone by helicopter within an hour or so. By the time Marine Reservists could assemble, train, and deploy, the civil unrest would already be so much blood in the streets. I don't think the use of force against Federal armed forces has much validity, unless we were talking about the entire Department of Defense quashing the C. I. A., or something along those lines.
They may be ordered to Active Duty ISO (Inter School Course) DSCA (Defense Support of Civil Authorities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Support_of_Civil_authorities)). They might have done something in Los Angeles, 1992, regardless, the first fist to hit the face of a serious insurrection would generally be the National Guard. If I was worried about bombs and bullets decimating our "dear people", I would seek to dissolve the National Guard first. They have loads of weapons whose only purpose is doing that. Are they going to protect our liberties in Iraq or Afghanistan, or prevent an invasion by Mexico, no. It is only to crush the ne'er-do-wells in "your state".
State police are remembered from the beginning of "folk music": Woody Guthrie about the Sooners, refugees from the Oklahoma dust bowl, being turned away from California with guns. That was just police with personal arms, not guardsmen with Hellfires and Vulcans and such.
Something unprecedentedly bad "could" come from this recent Federal update, but something bad definitely will come from the Guard if you can somehow manage to overpower the local authorities.
ExomatrixTV
7th October 2019, 20:31
Trump Activates US Marine Corps (https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c) to Stop Foreign Backed Coup FULL EMERGENCY SHOW 10/6/2019
Bill Ryan
7th October 2019, 20:41
Trump Activates US Marine Corps (https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c) to Stop Foreign Backed Coup FULL EMERGENCY SHOW 10/6/2019A bit more on this. :) This is an Emergency Infowars (Alex Jones) broadcast, over an hour long, published yesterday (6 October) that's worth watching.
https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c
Bill Ryan
7th October 2019, 20:56
Trump Activates US Marine Corps (https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c) to Stop Foreign Backed Coup FULL EMERGENCY SHOW 10/6/2019A bit more on this. :) This is an Emergency Infowars (Alex Jones) broadcast, over an hour long, published yesterday (6 October) that's worth watching.
https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c
A YouTube re-upload that may not be there long. It's only been up a few minutes, and has had 9 views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frCxCYb7ns4
Bill Ryan
7th October 2019, 21:06
Here's today's Infowars show (7 October). Again, no views yet, so it might not be there long. I've not watched this yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShYEVVZy0Dw
Update: this is likely a better, more detailed report than the one the previous day.
Haujean Contactee
8th October 2019, 01:56
Just one more thing to feel sick over.
ExomatrixTV
8th October 2019, 12:54
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Siphonemis
8th October 2019, 17:06
From a USAF readiness and logistical perspective, there has been no change in operational tempo. This is a good indicator that nothing is being prepped for or ramped up, because nothing is expected to happen at this point in time. The AF would be the among first to notice a change as they handle a good chunk of the transportation and delivery at home and abroad for mission/contigency posturing of not only their own folks and gear, but also personnel from other branches, as well their equipment, ammunition, etc. All quiet on that front so far. Let's hope for all our sakes it remains that way.
Ron Mauer Sr
8th October 2019, 17:11
I do not understand "activated".
I do understand "recalled to active duty", "leave canceled for those on active duty". Has any of this happened?
ExomatrixTV
1st November 2019, 19:06
November 2019 Update: Trump Activates U.S. Marine Reserves For ‘Emergency Within The United States (https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-activates-u-s-marine-reserves-for-emergency-within-the-united-states-to-stop-illegal-coup/)’ To Stop Illegal Coup
Order says emergency ‘will come with little warning,’ cites ‘threats within the Homeland’
Video (https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c)
Bill Ryan
1st November 2019, 22:34
November 2019 Update: Trump Activates U.S. Marine Reserves For ‘Emergency Within The United States (https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-activates-u-s-marine-reserves-for-emergency-within-the-united-states-to-stop-illegal-coup/)’ To Stop Illegal Coup
Order says emergency ‘will come with little warning,’ cites ‘threats within the Homeland’
Video (https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c)
I'm not understanding this. it doesn't seem to be an update at all.
The Infowars article (your first link (https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-activates-u-s-marine-reserves-for-emergency-within-the-united-states-to-stop-illegal-coup)) was today, 1 November. But all it did was cite the video (your second link (https://banned.video/watch?id=5d9a821887ce7c0013c51e4c)), which is dated 3 October, a month ago.
What's the current situation? If you could, please help us all by adding your commentary and more information to your posts (on this and other items) — thank you!
:sun:
ExomatrixTV
2nd November 2019, 12:11
I called it an "update" because it was a new post/article on infowars, that's all ... I assumed they have new extra insights/intel ... if not they just reposted their own stuff twice. Sorry for the misunderstanding. No problems if you delete this post Bill.
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