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Delight
20th October 2019, 17:50
Tulsi Gabbard is a very bright person with ideas and sense IMO.

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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D–Hawaii)........ different from the other Democrats.

One difference is that she served in Iraq, and now pushes for ending wars. "We have to honor our servicemen and women by only sending them on missions that are worthy of their sacrifice," Gabbard tells Stossel.

Instead, American interventions are often open-ended. "There's seldom a discussion that I've heard about what is our mission," Stossel says.

"Exactly! That's exactly the problem…what is the clear, achievable goal?" Gabbard responds. She says her Afghanistan policy would have been: "Go in. Defeat Al-Qaeda. Get out."

Gabbard also says: talk with our enemies. She met with Syria's dictator. The media and other Democratic candidates give her grief for that.

CNN's Chris Cuomo lectured her: "You need to acknowledge that Bashar al-Assad is a murderous despot."

Kamala Harris called Gabbard an "Assad apologist."

"What's going on with your party?" Stossel asks Gabbard. "Democrats used to the antiwar party."

Gabbard responds that both parties are "heavily influenced by the foreign policy establishment…whose whole power base is built around continuing this status quo. So much so to the point where when I'm calling for an end to these wasteful wars, they're saying, 'well, gosh, Tulsi, why are you such an isolationist.' As though the only way that we can relate with other countries in the world is by bombing them, or by putting crippling economic sanctions in place."

Stossel also asks Gabbard about taking down a Democratic front-runner. In the fourth debate, she criticized Kamala Harris for her history of jailing people.

"She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana," Gabbard said in the debate.

That moment changed the race. Harris lead in the betting at ElectionBettingOdds.com, with a 26% chance of winning the nomination. During the debate, she fell seven points. 10 days later, another seven points.

"You killed her off," Stossel says.

"I'm for the people, man," Gabbard replies, laughing. "I was speaking the truth, and speaking for a lot of people."

Gabbard and Stossel argue, too. Like most democrats, Gabbard would spend billions on expensive new programs. She backs Medicare for All and free college.

"Don't you think colleges already waste a lot of money?" Stossel asks.

Gabbard agrees, "They do. Absolutely. Why is it costing more and more and more every single year?"

"Look how much more it will cost when it's free," says Stossel.

Gabbard responds, "We have to deal with…the root cause of the problem. One of which is…how much administrators of a lot of these colleges are being paid or overpaid."

Stossel and Gabbard also argue over her proposal for a $15 minimum wage.

"How does that not destroy opportunity for a 17-year-old in his first job who isn't worth $15 an hour?" Stossel asks.

"I think we're looking at this as an investment in people," Gabbard answers.

In the end, Stossel says, "I'm glad we could have a civil argument about some of these areas where we disagree. Few politicians want to do that anymore."

She adds: "Look, I love my country. You love our country. Let's come together as Americans with appreciation for our Constitution, our freedoms, civil liberties and rights, and have this civil discourse and dialogue about how we can move forward together."

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Baby Steps
20th October 2019, 18:36
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She is Fantastic!! But what is this about?


TULSI GABBARD IS A CFR MEMBER AND ILLUMINATI PUPPET (https://infiniteunknown.net/2019/07/28/tulsi-gabbard-is-a-cfr-member-and-an-illuminati-puppet/)


Wish I could ask her why she did that picture.


She has called out HC very strongly, but what the hidden hand is capable of doing is placing an agent within that anti-war milieu as insurance- so they have a candidate if opinion swings in that direction.


I really hope she's genuine...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO3t0Yl1Y_Y

Delight
20th October 2019, 19:52
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=41716

She is Fantastic!! But what is this about?


TULSI GABBARD IS A CFR MEMBER AND ILLUMINATI PUPPET (https://infiniteunknown.net/2019/07/28/tulsi-gabbard-is-a-cfr-member-and-an-illuminati-puppet/)



Yes, that hand gesture is weird. Are there various meanings to that symbol?

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I think she is smart, articulate and I like the positions she puts out.

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Delight
20th October 2019, 20:05
Baby Steps:

This might be interesting to you and it has to do with the downward pointing pyramid. Tulsi's was pointed up.... is there a difference?

Shark Tank – Gematria Study & Illuminati Symbolism (https://gematria.codes/2018/01/04/shark-tank-gematria-study-illuminati-symbolism/)

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Tulsi Gabbard is one of the more compelling subplots of the 2020 election
The Hawaii congresswoman is running a maverick campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.
BY CHRIS ROBINSON
15 OCTOBER 2019 (https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2019/10/tulsi-gabbard-one-more-compelling-subplots-2020-election)

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/cropped_article_image/public/blogs_2019/10/gettyimages-1173866046.jpg?itok=9ZDfbFd2&c=84d30345b25300b88238c0e74ec8a23d
Tulsi Gabbard is frustrated. Last week the Hawaiian congresswoman and presidential candidate threatened to boycott the upcoming Democratic presidential primary debate in protest at the DNC’s arbitrary rules for qualifying and lack of transparency in its approved polls.

Then on Saturday she took to Twitter to hit out at a New York Times profile, titled “What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?”, which she described as a “‘greatest hits’ smear piece” and made clear she does not expect fair treatment at the Tuesday’s debate in Westerville, Ohio, for which the NYT is one of the moderators.

Gabbard was back in Iowa last week, the key first-in-the-nation state that holds its caucus on 3 February, meeting voters and supporters at events billed as “coffee and toffee with Tulsi”. When Gabbard first entered Congress in Hawaii aged just 21, she asked her mother, Carol, to make batches of macadamia nut toffee that she then gave to members on both sides of the House as a gesture of “aloha”, which Gabbard describes as respect and underpins her belief that dialogue is key to making progress in politics.

It is this belief, however, that saw her agree to a meeting with the Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Asad in January 2017 provoking a firestorm of criticism which she has struggled ever since to douse. After a campaign stop in Washington, Iowa, last Tuesday, she defended that meeting as being “in the interests of peace and national security” so I asked her what it had achieved other than gifting the regime a PR coup.

“It’s not a gift,” she said, “… there was no PR around any meeting. The only coverage that came was a smear campaign from the media saying ‘how dare you meet with a brutal dictator?’ Tell me when peace has ever been achieved by only meeting with friends and allies?” she asked.

That explanation sounds naïve and does not hold sway for her many critics who believe it had more to do with building her personal brand, and suspect she is doing the same with the presidential campaign, or that she will ultimately become the Jill Stein of 2020 and launch a third party run, something she has already refuted on the record.

Gabbard’s political views are best understood as a clash between her upbringing in Hawaii and her experiences in the National Guard where she has served for 16 years. She is both a yoga-practising surfer who founded an environmental non-profit as a teenager cleaning beaches in Hawaii on the weekend with her friends; and a hardened, two-term Iraq war veteran who witnessed the cost of war first hand, forever changing her outlook on the world and making her a vociferous opponent of what she describes as wasteful regime change wars, a policy that is at the heart of her candidacy.

These duelling sides of her personality were on display on the trail last week, first at the home of supporter Harold Frakes in Brighton, where she described how growing up in Hawaii gave her an appreciation of the environment and explained that putting service above self is what motivated her to run for the presidency.

Later at Café Dodici in Washington she struck a markedly more alarmist tone, asking people to raise their hands if they would know where to go in the face of an imminent nuclear attack.

Her preoccupation with nuclear war is not an act. In January 2018 Hawaiians woke up to text messages telling them to seek immediate shelter from an incoming missile. That experience further strengthened her belief that deescalating conflicts through dialogue and negotiation is the only way to guarantee national security.

But it has also created confusion. Gabbard is regularly painted as non-interventionist but she has long since been on the record that pulling out of Syria too early, for example, would endanger the Kurds, and invited the Syrian Kurdish leader Ilham Ahmed to the State of the Union in February.

This does not alter her belief, however, that it’s time for the United States to dial down its interests in conflicts overseas. “The United States should not be in a position to be the world’s police because it doesn’t work, nor is it our place,” she said in response to a question in Washington, explaining that America’s foreign policy is beholden to corporate interests and needs strong leadership to resist the military industrial complex.

It’s a line that ought to play well with Democratic voters as the party shifts to the left, but instead she has been labelled an isolationist, much like Trump, a term she wearily rejects.

“It’s a sad state of affairs that people assume when I’m advocating to end these regime change wars they equate that with isolationism,” she says. “It’s ridiculous because that means what you really believe is that the only way we can engage with other countries is through bombing them or through crippling sanctions.”

It has left Gabbard in a bind. She has cast herself as an anti-war candidate but is opposed to the United States reneging on its existing commitments around the world, much like the rest of democratic presidential rivals. She is committed to “a foreign policy that’s based on cooperation rather than conflict” but has not articulated what she expects from foes like China or Russia in return.

Her rivals will probably not welcome her decision, on Monday morning, to participate in the debate after all, but her run for the nomination remains one of the more compelling subplots in the 2020 race.

Delight
20th October 2019, 20:13
The people we may want to turn towards for current news on the democratic party candidates..... includes Jimmy Dore. Who is telling truth?

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Baby Steps
20th October 2019, 20:24
Thank you, very happy to read that her Mudra is a hindu blessing, this makes sense.

Seabreeze
20th October 2019, 22:55
explanation to the picture : This is the sign for "protect Mauna Kea" The hands form a symbol for the sacred mountain......


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=41716&d=1571596103

https://truthout.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/SEG2-MaunaKea-2.jpg

Native Hawaiians Fight Construction of Telescope on Mauna Kea

Delight
20th October 2019, 23:23
explanation to the picture : This is the sign for "protect Mauna Kea" The hands form a symbol for the sacred mountain......


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=41716&d=1571596103

https://truthout.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/SEG2-MaunaKea-2.jpg

Native Hawaiians Fight Construction of Telescope on Mauna Kea

Thanks so much for clarifying the gesture. I am certain that Tulsi Gabbard has a deeper understanding of natural law and truth than the other candidates in the US election. Maybe she is informed by the same feeling as in this article about Mauna Kea? I think she could HELP turn the direction the US is headed. It will take all of us insisting we move towards what we really would like to experience.


A Sacred Space is Mauna Kea
Kealoha Pisciotta, October 5th 2014 (https://www.protectmaunakea.net/sacred-space)

I wish to pause for a moment to reflect upon the Mauna (Mountain) and I have extracted some thoughts from my past writings (“No Aloha or Aloha No”, 2001 and KAHEA: The Hawaiian Environmental Alliance publication: “Protecting Cultural Resources and Rights: Mauna to Makai”, 2010) that were inspired by the Mauna and that I share in honor of Mauna Kea:

Sometimes the actions of others can create an environment of non-peace. Such is the case with the TMT.

(Wikepedia: The Thirty Meter Telescope is a proposed extremely large telescope that has become controversial due to its planned location on Mauna Kea, on the island of Hawaii, a mountain which is considered sacred by some Native Hawaiians. The TMT would become the largest visible-light telescope on Mauna Kea.Wikipedia)

When this happens we are deeply saddened, our hearts become heavy with anger and resentment, and defensive feelings come to the forefront of our being. This is justified, understandable, even reasonable. No matter if you are following the laws of the occupier (US) or the laws of the Kingdom of Hawai`i, all laws are a construct of civilization (made by man) for the purpose of helping us live in peace and harmony. In this case, however, we would be remiss if we did not honor the sacred nature of Mauna Kea also.

Mauna Kea holds a special place on Earth, as it stands as a place of peace and Aloha, not just for Hawai`i but for the world. Many sacred places of the world hold ancient wisdom bound in ritual and ceremony for this time in our history, to help us all heal ourselves and the world. Mauna Kea is one of those places. It is because Mauna Kea resides in Wao Akua--the realms of the Akua (God and Gods); and that it specifically does not reside in the realms of Na Kanaka (Man) that its sanctity is governed by the laws of the Heavens and not by the laws of Man. For it is only on Mauna Kea that one’s breath can be seized in a moment never to be returned.

So when we walk on the sacred ground in the sacred realms, we are bound by the laws of the Akua, not our own. The Mauna was created by the Akua for man so that he/she could learn the ways of the Heavens. And encoded in the very landscape of Mauna are the great songs of Creation—the first songs of Aloha — and they were sung for us by the Akua to bring us into being and to help bring us into alignment with the Akua—Ke Akua, Na Akua and Na ‘Aumakua.

These are the love songs that set the first law of the land in motion—the law of Aloha. The Akua are the great composers of these songs, and when sung, the Akua walk the earth with man, just as Tutu Pele honors us with her dance today. Their Aloha flows and envelops us in the beauty that surrounds us. Mauna Kea is the great magnifier/amplifier so the songs of Aloha are magnified/amplified for all to see, feel and hear.

Aloha is also a sacred word that comes from the time of Creation and Creator, and although man can us it, man cannot profane it. When we utter the sacred word of Aloha, we invoke the spirit of Aloha, and when Aloha is in action, it is felt on all levels and what is contrary cannot exist simultaneously. One can’t be in the Aloha and the absence of it all at the same time. This means that each person engaged in Aloha is bound to the principles of truth and right action. When Aloha is enacted, our actions are overseen by the Akua. Each participant can act as he or she chooses but is responsible for his or her own actions and intentions nevertheless.

This issue is not about us verses them. It is about the unification of the people and re-imaging the way we wish to live on Earth. So we invoke Aloha in its highest order, we open our hearts so that the Mauna can keep us safe and in right alignment with the Heavens so that all things righteous may be fulfilled.

ALOHA NO!!!

ExomatrixTV
21st October 2019, 00:08
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alohacynthia
21st October 2019, 10:13
Tulsi is making the sign of “the Mauna”...Mauna Kea on the Big Island in solidarity with the Native Hawaiians who are protecting the summit from the construction of the controversal thirty meter telescope. Here in Hawaii this is a very popular symbol everyone uses with the phrase “ku kia’i mauna”. (Protect the mountain)

ExomatrixTV
23rd October 2019, 16:09
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Proof: YouTube CENSORED Tulsi Gabbard! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109013-Proof-YouTube-CENSORED-Tulsi-Gabbard-)

Kryztian
25th October 2019, 17:19
Is Tulsi Gabbard a Zionist?

In 2015 she spoke at the right wing "Christians United for Israel" conference, along with Benjamin Netanyahu, Ted Cruz and others.

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I watched this video a few months ago and felt disgusted, that she had clearly been co-opted into Zionism. Decided to give this a second listen so that I could determine exactly where her incriminating words were, and I didn't find them! (Either I didn't listen very well or this is the Mandela effect at work :sun:)

Her words were incredibly well chosen. She focused on what she said were threats to both Israel, the United States and the rest of the world:


extremist ideology and it's intersection with terrorism
Al Qaeda
Iran, and it's attempt to develop nuclear weapons


While I am not convinced 100% either way, whether or not Iran will soon have nuclear weapons capabilities, I think her focus on Al Qaeda is quite an intelligent move, especially when so many neocons and neolibs have enabled Al Qaeda, especially Hillary Clinton when she successfully worked to create regime change in Libya.

What she didn't talk about was Israeli's right to exist as a state where Jewish people have special rights over non-Jews, where all the lands that were once Palestine should now be controlled by a militant violent group of Jewish leaders. She didn't come around as a 100% Zionist. On the other hand, she also didn't speak out about the atrocities that the Israeli Zio-Cons have brought about nor has she else where.

ExomatrixTV
26th October 2019, 00:29
Hillary Clinton Goes Full "Conspiracy Theories" without evidence:
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Delight
26th October 2019, 00:39
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I am never sure of what is true of ANYONE in politics but I actually see Tulsi Gabbard as a REAL agent for change (against the forever war). The thing is that the Military/Medical/Media industrial Complex is the enemy and I think Gabbard understands the stakes.

Abby Martin joins the show to discuss Hillary vs. Tulsi and her film 'Gaza Fights for Freedom, Katie recaps Bernie's rally in Queens

Get the full story at: http://www.rollingstone.com/

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Democrat Gabbard, who slammed Israel for live fire use in Gaza, to run in 2020
Hawaii congresswoman and Iraq veteran also controversially met with Syria’s Assad and questioned whether he was responsible for chemical attack on civilians that killed dozens
By AGENCIES and TOI STAFF
12 January 2019 (https://www.timesofisrael.com/democrat-gabbard-who-slammed-israel-for-live-fire-use-in-gaza-to-run-in-2020/)

Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who last year castigated Israel for its use of live ammunition against “unarmed protesters” at violent demonstrations on the Gaza border orchestrated by the Hamas terrorist group, has announced that she is running for president in 2020.

Gabbard said in a CNN interview slated to air Saturday night that she will be formally announcing her candidacy within the next week. The 37-year-old Iraq War veteran is the first Hindu elected to Congress and the first member born in the US territory of American Samoa.

In May 2018, Gabbard slammed Israel for its use of live ammunition against “unarmed protesters” after a particularly deadly day of violence at the Gaza border on the day the US moved its embassy to Jerusalem, in which at least 58 Palestinians were killed and more than 2,700 Palestinians wounded, according to figures from the Hamas-run Gazan health ministry.

Hamas later that week acknowledged that most of the dead in that escalation of violence were its members, while Islamic Jihad claimed another three. Salah Bardawil said 50 of 62 Palestinians reported killed during Gaza border riots on May 14 and 15 were Hamas members. “In the last rounds of confrontations, if 62 people were martyred, 50 of the martyrs were Hamas and 12 from the people,” Bardawil said on May 16.

The IDF spokesperson’s office said that on that day, Hamas deployed 12 separate terrorist “cells” to try to breach the border at different locations, and that all were rebuffed. Among the dead, the IDF said, were all eight members of a cell of armed Hamas operatives, who were killed in a gun battle as they sought to breach the fence in the northern Gaza Strip.

Since March 2018, Palestinians have been holding the weekly “March of Return” protests on the border, which Israel has accused Gaza’s Hamas terrorist rulers of using to carry out attacks on troops and attempt to breach the security fence.

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In 2015, Gabbard addressed the Christians United for Israel summit, and that same year said that while the US remained a strong ally of Israel, the two countries diverge on how best to prevent a nuclear Iran, lamenting after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed Congress that the issue was being used as a “political football.”

Christians United For Israel, founded and led by Pastor John Hagee, has millions of members and calls itself the “largest pro-Israel grassroots organization in the United States.” The organization is said to have been a major factor in US President Donald Trump’s 2017 decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and move the US embassy there.

In 2016, Gabbard alarmed fellow Democrats when she met with Trump during his transition to president and later when she took a secret trip to Syria and met with President Bashar Assad, who has been accused of war crimes. She questioned whether he was responsible for a chemical attack on civilians that killed dozens and led the UN to attack a Syrian airbase.

She said she doesn’t regret the trip and considers it important to meet with adversaries if “you are serious about pursuing peace.” She also noted that the 2003 invasion of Iraq was based on faulty intelligence and said that she wanted to understand the evidence of the Syria attack.

Gabbard has long opposed a policy of regime change there, arguing that the country would descend further into chaos should Assad be ousted. Top leaders from her own Democrat party were not informed about her trip to Syria in advance, the Guardian reported.

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Palestinians chant slogans during clashes with Israeli troops near the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel east of Gaza City, on May 14, 2018. (AFP Photo/Mahmud Hams)

Gabbard is joining what is expected to be a crowded Democratic field. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts has already formed an exploratory committee and is moving quickly with trips across early primary states. California Sen. Kamala Harris, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders are all weighing their own presidential bids and are expected to announce decisions in the upcoming weeks. Former Obama administration housing chief Julian Castro plans to announce his run for the presidency on Saturday.

Gabbard was one of the most prominent lawmakers to back Sanders over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 Democratic presidential primary. Her endorsement came in dramatic fashion, with her resigning as a vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee to express her support.

Asked last year whether she would still consider running if Sanders ran, Gabbard said Sanders is a friend and she didn’t know what his plans were.

“I’m thinking through how I can best be of service and I’ll make my decision based on that,” she said.

Delight
26th October 2019, 01:41
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Tulsi Gabbard
@TulsiGabbard
Oct 25, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1187706669683183616)

Today I’m officially announcing that I will not be seeking reelection to Congress in 2020. Throughout my life, I’ve always made my decisions based on where I felt I could do the most good. In light of the challenges we face, I believe I can best serve the people of Hawaiʻi & our country as President and Commander-in-Chief. As president, I will immediately begin work to end the new cold war & nuclear arms race end our interventionist foreign policy of trying being the world’s police. Join me in ushering in a new Democratic Party that is of, by, and for the people. Together, let’s bring integrity and the spirit of putting service before self to the White House, so that our White House can truly be a beacon of light, hope and opportunity for all Americans.

Delight
28th October 2019, 03:09
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Inspirational leader or political spoiler? Super Hero or Bond villain? How you see controversial Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard depends on where you sit. Fresh off a headline-grabbing clash with Hillary Clinton, Gabbard sits down with Paul Rieckhoff for a no-holds barred, extensive and uniquely candid conversation.

Gabbard is the first female combat veteran in history to run for President. She breaks it down with fellow combat veteran Rieckhoff for a focus on the national security, and veterans issues that are often left off the debate stage. The dynamic and spirited conversation is an insight into the battle to defeat Trump, the battle to defeat American’s enemies, the battle for the future of the Democratic party, and the battle to define the future of American politics. And this news-making episode of Angry Americans gets into all of it–along with why Gabbard doesn’t drink alcohol, what she really thinks of Vladamir Putin, Bashar al-Assad, Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan—and what she gave up as a teenager to buy her very first car.

As a candidate for President, Tulsi Gabbard has vehemently opposed what she calls “regime change wars”. But she’s still an officer serving in the Hawaii National Guard. So if she was called up to active duty to fight in one, would she go? If elected President, would she again meet with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad? Will she leave the Democratic party and run as an independent? Find out now.

Host Paul Rieckhoff leads a fascinating conversation with Gabbard–and takes Angry Americans into the latest headlines you need to know about. From the devolving situation in Syria, to Secretary of Defense Esper’s struggles in the media, to Shaquile O’Neal’s good deed, Rieckhoff quickly takes you through news headlines that are important and inspiring.

If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention. But there are also good reasons to be happy and inspired. Download the new Angry Americans podcast for free here now and get it all. And join the Angry Americans newsletter for free, exclusive weekly content at www.AngryAmericans.us. And go behind-the-scenes for video of the interview with Tulsi Gabbard and other recent guests including Samantha Bee, Bradley Whitford, Chris Cuomo, Wes Moore and Scott Campbell.

Angry Americans is connecting, uniting and empowering people of all backgrounds nationwide. It’s changing the podcasting landscape. And it’s powered by Righteous Media.

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ExomatrixTV
28th October 2019, 15:25
The Democrats Have Inadvertently Made Tulsi Gabbard Their Worst Nightmare
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ExomatrixTV
30th October 2019, 14:06
Hillary Clinton's Smear BACKFIRED Hilariously, Leftists SLAM Incessant Orange Man Bad Narrative
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T Smith
30th October 2019, 20:25
Hillary Clinton's Smear BACKFIRED Hilariously, Leftists SLAM Incessant Orange Man Bad Narrative
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At the 19:10 mark: "....Trump can be bad, but he can also do good things; Trump can be good, but he can also do bad things..."

Blasphemous. Utterly unacceptable thinking.

The program is obviously not working on this commentator...

Baby Steps
3rd November 2019, 22:40
Is Tulsi Gabbard a Zionist?

In 2015 she spoke at the right wing "Christians United for Israel" conference, along with Benjamin Netanyahu, Ted Cruz and others.

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I watched this video a few months ago and felt disgusted, that she had clearly been co-opted into Zionism. Decided to give this a second listen so that I could determine exactly where her incriminating words were, and I didn't find them! (Either I didn't listen very well or this is the Mandela effect at work :sun:)

Her words were incredibly well chosen. She focused on what she said were threats to both Israel, the United States and the rest of the world:


extremist ideology and it's intersection with terrorism
Al Qaeda
Iran, and it's attempt to develop nuclear weapons


While I am not convinced 100% either way, whether or not Iran will soon have nuclear weapons capabilities, I think her focus on Al Qaeda is quite an intelligent move, especially when so many neocons and neolibs have enabled Al Qaeda, especially Hillary Clinton when she successfully worked to create regime change in Libya.

What she didn't talk about was Israeli's right to exist as a state where Jewish people have special rights over non-Jews, where all the lands that were once Palestine should now be controlled by a militant violent group of Jewish leaders. She didn't come around as a 100% Zionist. On the other hand, she also didn't speak out about the atrocities that the Israeli Zio-Cons have brought about nor has she else where.

Very smart of Tulsi. (Holy Basil in Hindi)

She represents the left side of the neo-isolationist trend articulated by Trump. She continually signals withdrawal from the middle east. She is signalling to friends of Israel that, although she supports a hands-off diplomatic approach to the area, she is not in favour of abandoning Israel, who depends on military aid from the USA to keep its missile defences working.

This is a sensible realistic position from an electoral point of view.

Go, Tulsi!

ExomatrixTV
4th November 2019, 03:12
Joe Rogan Experience #1170 - Tulsi Gabbard
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Joe Rogan Experience #1295 - Tulsi Gabbard
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Tyy1907
4th November 2019, 15:33
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She is Fantastic!! But what is this about?


TULSI GABBARD IS A CFR MEMBER AND ILLUMINATI PUPPET (https://infiniteunknown.net/2019/07/28/tulsi-gabbard-is-a-cfr-member-and-an-illuminati-puppet/)


Wish I could ask her why she did that picture.


She has called out HC very strongly, but what the hidden hand is capable of doing is placing an agent within that anti-war milieu as insurance- so they have a candidate if opinion swings in that direction.


I really hope she's genuine...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO3t0Yl1Y_Y

Well that settles that for me. Her 911 speech was so convincing, worthy of an Oscar!

Tyy1907
5th November 2019, 15:46
I'd love to believe her conviction and apparent drive for equality among all classes of people and so on

What stood out to me from listening to her Rogan interview is she refers to herself as president and "commander in chief". And her military background it makes her appear like she's ready to kick ass if need be. Yet she has an antiwar stance on many of the current situations.

ExomatrixTV
6th November 2019, 11:45
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Pam
6th November 2019, 13:11
The one thing that really makes me believe that Tulsi is genuine is her understanding that true leadership is in reality a position of serving others. I know any politician can spout that out, but I really do believe that she understands and honors the position that it really is a privilege to be of service to others. This concept does not seem to be understood by many today but I really believe she gets that. I don't think you can fake that sort of integrity. I have only seen 2 possibly 3 that possess that quality and none had the gift of speaking and determination that she has.

The fact that she is not at the top of the list and someone who we have proof that he used his position to exploit and extort from others is in the lead speaks volumes about the consciousness of the US today.

Delight
10th November 2019, 18:36
The one thing that really makes me believe that Tulsi is genuine is her understanding that true leadership is in reality a position of serving others. I know any politician can spout that out, but I really do believe that she understands and honors the position that it really is a privilege to be of service to others. This concept does not seem to be understood by many today but I really believe she gets that. I don't think you can fake that sort of integrity. I have only seen 2 possibly 3 that possess that quality and none had the gift of speaking and determination that she has.

The fact that she is not at the top of the list and someone who we have proof that he used his position to exploit and extort from others is in the lead speaks volumes about the consciousness of the US today.

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I sense such a genuine truth fullness in Tulsi Gabbard. I never felt drawn to candidates as I feel drawn to her. Yeah, I know that may be a red flag. Everything she has said seems based on a wisdom that could help the ship of state make the turn we need to have a "sustainable course". Other than Tulsi Gabbard, the other leaders seem like they crave heading right into the iceberg.

I am going to keep supporting her.

ExomatrixTV
11th November 2019, 17:53
Tulsi Gabbard Shares Day 1 Plan in Oval Office | The View
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Delight
13th November 2019, 05:23
Tulsi Demands Info On Saudi Involvement In 911 Attacks
Nov 12, 2019

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Delight
14th November 2019, 04:58
"The media and the Democratic establishment have done absolutely everything they possibly can to try to destroy Tulsi … Managing to achieve some momentum in spite of all that shows just how persistent she is and just how weak and feckless they are."

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Tulsi at The Proud Bird (Grand Ballroom) in Los Angeles, CA.

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Delight
17th November 2019, 07:15
11/16/2019
Tulsi Gabbard talks Impeachment, Hillary Clinton, foreign policy, healthcare, veteran's issues, and more in this extended interview.

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onawah
17th November 2019, 19:46
I'm not so sure about Tulsi Gabbard, who is a member of Council on Foreign Relations, a very elitist group.
See: https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/photos-rep-tulsi-gabbard-hosts-council-foreign-relations-briefing-honolulu
https://libertyconservativenews.com/why-is-tulsi-gabbard-part-of-the-globalist-council-on-foreign-relations/

Following from: https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/60ufas/cmv_tulsi_gabbard_is_a_member_of_cfr_council_on/
"CFR aren't a benevolent organisation*

The CFR isn't a political activist group - they're a Cabal think tank/policy generator, whose members go onto to occupyhighest positions in office and enact into law, the policies created for them by this unelected secretive group.

The reason that presidential candidates’ promises of “change” go largely unfulfilled once in office: they draw their top personnel from the same establishment groups — of which the Trilateral Commission is only one. Chief among these groups is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the most visible manifestation of what some have called the American establishment. Members of the council have dominated the administrations of every president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, at the cabinet and sub-cabinet level. It does not matter whether the president is a Democrat or Republican. As we will see, Barack Obama is no exception to CFR influence."

Delight
17th November 2019, 20:56
I respect Onawah's concern (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106821-The-US-Vaccine-issue-is-more-than-just-about-the-Shots-it-is-about-totalitarian-tiptoe&p=1323943&viewfull=1#post1323943)


( But not so sure about Tulsi Gabbard, who is a member of Council on Foreign Relations, a very elitist group.
See: https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press...efing-honolulu
https://libertyconservativenews.com/...ign-relations/

Following from: https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comme...fr_council_on/
"CFR aren't a benevolent organisation*

The CFR isn't a political activist group - they're a Cabal think tank/policy generator, whose members go onto to occupyhighest positions in office and enact into law, the policies created for them by this unelected secretive group.

The reason that presidential candidates’ promises of “change” go largely unfulfilled once in office: they draw their top personnel from the same establishment groups — of which the Trilateral Commission is only one. Chief among these groups is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the most visible manifestation of what some have called the American establishment. Members of the council have dominated the administrations of every president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, at the cabinet and sub-cabinet level. It does not matter whether the president is a Democrat or Republican. As we will see, Barack Obama is no exception to CFR influence."

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Pam
18th November 2019, 18:24
I respect Onawah's concern (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106821-The-US-Vaccine-issue-is-more-than-just-about-the-Shots-it-is-about-totalitarian-tiptoe&p=1323943&viewfull=1#post1323943)


( But not so sure about Tulsi Gabbard, who is a member of Council on Foreign Relations, a very elitist group.
See: https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press...efing-honolulu
https://libertyconservativenews.com/...ign-relations/

Following from: https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comme...fr_council_on/
"CFR aren't a benevolent organisation*

The CFR isn't a political activist group - they're a Cabal think tank/policy generator, whose members go onto to occupyhighest positions in office and enact into law, the policies created for them by this unelected secretive group.

The reason that presidential candidates’ promises of “change” go largely unfulfilled once in office: they draw their top personnel from the same establishment groups — of which the Trilateral Commission is only one. Chief among these groups is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the most visible manifestation of what some have called the American establishment. Members of the council have dominated the administrations of every president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, at the cabinet and sub-cabinet level. It does not matter whether the president is a Democrat or Republican. As we will see, Barack Obama is no exception to CFR influence."

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I don't agree with everything she thinks and does but I really do believe that she comes from a place of sincerity with a genuine interest in benefiting the citizens. I have a strong hunch that the US government is so fraught with corruption that it will inevitably implode but I would also love to see what she could do. I know it seems like she could not possibly win but I hold out hope, which is kind of unusual for me as I regrettably have become quite cynical.

mountain_jim
22nd November 2019, 17:08
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nytimes-pans-cult-leader-gabbards-white-pant-suit-after-praising-hillary-same-outfit



NYTimes Pans "Cult Leader" Gabbard's White Pant Suit After Praising Hillary For Same Outfit

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

Style writer Vanessa Friedman had drooled over Hillary’s clothing back in 2016, calling her white pantsuit “presidential.”

However, when Gabbard, a fierce critic of Clinton, wore virtually the exact same outfit, Friedman said it made her look like a “cult leader” full of “combative righteousness” and that the white fabric has “connotations of the fringe, rather than the center” and even undermines “community building.”

< more at link >

Apparently, wearing white is a brave expression of purity and leadership, unless you challenge the Democratic establishment or the deep state, at which point it suddenly makes you a “cult leader.”

And people wonder why mainstream journalism is dying.

Delight
24th November 2019, 23:18
Gaslighting of progressives.....

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and laying out principles

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onawah
25th November 2019, 00:39
Saturday Night Live was merciless in their treatment of Dem candidates last night
11/23/19
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Hervé
25th November 2019, 22:04
...

... ouch...

On live TV: Tulsi Gabbard speaks frankly, says her party is not 'of, by or for the people' (https://apkfamily.com/2019/11/23/tulsi-turns-on-democrats-on-live-tv-says-her-own-party-is-not-of-by-or-for-the-people/)

apkfamily.com (https://apkfamily.com/2019/11/23/tulsi-turns-on-democrats-on-live-tv-says-her-own-party-is-not-of-by-or-for-the-people/)
Sat, 23 Nov 2019 00:00 UTC


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Democratic Candidate for President, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) © screenshot


Tulsi Gabbard caught every single Democrat off guard with this gutsy statement!

Tulsi Gabbard may be trailing in the polls, but she certainly set herself apart from the other 2020 hopefuls.

The veteran has been mercilessly attacked by her own party. Hillary Clinton, defying all logic, accused her of being a Russian operative (sound familiar?).

Gabbard is even taking on Google for alleged attempts to censor her.

It seems the liberal establishment is doing everything they can to squash their fellow Democrat. But Tulsi is not backing down.

And she's taking on the entire party.


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From Western Journal:
"Our Democratic Party, unfortunately, is not the party that is of, by and for the people. It is a party that has been and continues to be influenced by the foreign policy establishment in Washington, represented by Hillary Clinton and others' foreign policy, by the military-industrial complex and other greedy corporate interests." Ouch. I wonder how all those liberals felt when one of theirs accused them all of not being the party for the people?

I mean, we conservatives have been saying this for years. Democrats appeared to have long ago sold out to corporate interests, globalists, and D.C. lobbyists.

It is the very reason Democrats fight Trump so much. The president is putting the American people first, not powerful special interests.

Democrats claim to be the party of Civil Rights, the working class, and minorities. Yet their decisions seem much move motivated by whoever is pulling the strings in D.C. Nobody within the party is willing to admit this, until now.

Gabbard has more in common with President Trump, when she calls out the corruption in D.C. While her policies are far from the president's, at least she is being bold and honest enough to confront her own party.

When was the last time we saw a Democrat do that? I can't even remember.

The sad reality is, despite her words, the rest of the party will not wake up. They will continue to be, as she said, influenced by these other forces.

Instead of putting Americans first.


Related:

Tulsi Gabbard: Impeachment proceedings would only tear US apart (https://www.sott.net/article/420008-Tulsi-Gabbard-Impeachment-proceedings-would-only-tear-US-apart)



Tulsi Gabbard's tour of Aleppo shames Western media (https://www.sott.net/article/340820-Tulsi-Gabbards-tour-of-Aleppo-shames-Western-media)



Allies of Tulsi Gabbard pushing back after she is unfairly attacked by Establishment for speaking the truth on Syria (https://www.sott.net/article/341208-Allies-of-Tulsi-Gabbard-pushing-back-after-she-is-unfairly-attacked-by-Establishment-for-speaking-the-truth-on-Syria)



Tulsi Gabbard hits back: 'They will destroy you' if you stand up to Clinton (https://www.sott.net/article/422347-Tulsi-Gabbard-hits-back-They-will-destroy-you-if-you-stand-up-to-Clinton)



Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard smokes CNN shill: 'US is funding terrorists' in Syria (https://www.sott.net/article/336229-Hawaii-Rep-Tulsi-Gabbard-smokes-CNN-shill-US-is-funding-terrorists-in-Syria)

Delight
27th November 2019, 05:55
I love love love intelligent conversations.

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Delight
30th November 2019, 05:20
Tulsi Gabbard's astrological chart: Apparently the Saturn/Pluto pressure cooker energy is involved in her birth chart.

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Delight
2nd December 2019, 18:13
Tulsi Gabbard always has something so calm about her demeanor and when speaking she has clarity and deliberation.... I am loving her so much!

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PurpleLama
3rd December 2019, 23:01
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Another Tulsi appearance on Joe Rogan's show.


Oops, Maggie beat me to it.

Bump!

Delight
4th December 2019, 04:27
Trying to explain who supports Tulsi Gabbard..."in a lane of her own"....

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Grrrg Grrrg
6 minutes ago
Reds and Blues unite.
Tulsi for a better world.

"Representative Tulsi Gabbard fighting to make debate stage"

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mountain_jim
4th December 2019, 13:17
Just think if more politicians included Yoga in their routines for health.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1201904334365216769

Delight
5th December 2019, 03:07
Abby Martin critiques Tulsi Gabbard with Michael Brooks

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One thing Abby Martin dislikes is her running against Bernie. I think he is just too old and he caved to the DNC in 2016. I like Abby Martin but why isn't she interviewing Gabbard? I think she would be glad to talk to Martin.

This comment is one I agree on because IMO She COULD be a serious contender and COULD mobilize people who want real change? I like feeling my support of her as it is definitely a counter point to despair.


Loveyourplanet X
3 weeks ago
Abby is contradicting herself. She is all for Bernie but I don't hear Bernie speaking out about ending wars in Gaza. Is Abby afraid that once Tulsi becomes President Empire Files will come to an end? What is her deal? Tulsi got out of the democratic race, endorsed Bernie, and then Bernie stabs his supporters in the back by endorsing Hillary Clinton. Does Abby not see how childish she sounds? Complaining and threatened by someone who actually can end regime change wars and who CAN beat Donald Trump. What a disappointment.

Franny
5th December 2019, 06:42
I haven't seen anything on PA about this topic of the Gabbard family's relationship to a quasi Hindu guru, often referred to as a cult leader. Here is a local Hawaii article about it. Tulsi Gabbard and her family decline to comment in depth about the relationship and their history with the group.

Krishna Cult Rumors Still Dog Tulsi Gabbard

The Hawaii congresswoman’s national rise invites closer scrutiny of her family ties to an offbeat religious community. Her fiancé and chief of staff also grew up in families affiliated with the sect.

By Rui Kaneya / March 16, 2015


Eleven years ago, U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, now a rising star in the Democratic Party, was a little-known state representative from a West Oahu district. It was her then-Republican father, Mike, who was in the political limelight.

The elder Gabbard, known for his virulent anti-gay crusade in the 1990s, was challenging Democratic incumbent Ed Case in the race to represent Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District. So, for a profile piece, a writer at Honolulu Magazine emailed him and asked about his family’s ties to a guru named Chris Butler, aka Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa (http://www.scienceofidentityfoundation.net/about-us/jagad-guru-siddhaswarupananda-paramahamsa-chris-butler), who leads an obscure offshoot of the Hare Krishna movement in Hawaii.

But it was Tulsi Gabbard who jumped in. “I smell a skunk,” she emailed back (http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/August-2004/Who-is-Mike-Gabbard/). “It’s clear to me that you’re acting as a conduit for … homosexual extremist supporters of Ed Case.”

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Gabbard at a Kauai Women Veterans Conference

U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s conspicuous silence on her family’s ties to guru Chris Butler has only made her detractors more suspicious.

Much has changed with Tulsi Gabbard since then. She enlisted in the Hawaii Army National Guard and served two tours in the Middle East before successfully running for a seat on the Honolulu City Council in 2010. Then, in 2012, she got what eluded her father — a seat representing Hawaii in Congress.

But one thing has remained: The Gabbard family’s ties to Butler still hound her — in the hallways of the Hawaii State Capitol, on blogs of political observers, on pages of online discussion forums, and in commentary sections of various news sites, including Civil Beat’s.

Now, the mysterious world that’s been swirling around Gabbard all her life is coming under closer scrutiny as the 33-year-old congresswoman’s stature on the national stage steadily rises, and her views on national and international issues — whether she’s standing up for veterans or challenging President Barack Obama over his stance on the Islamic State — continue to draw the media spotlight.

During the past few weeks, speculation about her place in that world has intensified, thanks in no small part to two recent developments in her life, one personal and one professional: her upcoming marriage (http://www.staradvertiser.com/features/featuresstories/20150215_with_this_ring__Quiet_lowkey_approach_to_love_suits_congresswoman_just_fine.html?id=2919510 51) to Abraham Williams and the appointment of Kainoa (https://www.civilbeat.org/2015/02/eyebrow-raiser-tulsi-gabbards-new-chief-of-staff-baffles-political-insiders/) Ramananda Penaroza as her top advisor.


“While my parents and I have a very close relationship, and we love each other and respect each other very much, we don’t agree on everything.” — U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard

Both men grew up in the same offbeat religious world as Gabbard. Many of the people who still talk about and obsess over the Gabbard family’s ties to Butler try to also paint both Williams and Penaroza as devotees of the guru.

A Civil Beat review of decades’ worth of records and Internet postings, as well as interviews with the Butler group’s insiders and observers alike, found that, as with Gabbard, there is no evidence that either of the men adheres to Butler’s teachings.

Gabbard declined to be interviewed for this story but, through her spokesman, issued a written statement to Civil Beat. The statement, however, does not address the subject of this article — which was explained in detail to the spokesman — and instead only offers her thoughts on being the first Hindu elected to Congress.

Williams and Penaroza could not be reached for comment. Gabbard’s parents, Mike and Carol, and other staff members also could not be reached or did not respond to Civil Beat’s request for comment.

Still, the Internet continues to provide a ready forum for the commotion over Gabbard to fester — you need look no further than a thread (http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,4453,page=1) on the Cult Education Institute’s forum (http://www.culteducation.com/) titled, “Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity.” Civil Beat recently scanned the entire thread and found a trove of information, including useful links, scanned copies of news articles and other historical documents.

For this story, Civil Beat drew on information from the forum that could be verified, along with other publicly available documents and news articles, as well as interviews with people who have intimate knowledge about the community of Butler devotees.

What emerged is a fascinating look at the world Gabbard and her close associates grew up in. It’s another lens through which to view the fast-rising congresswoman.

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Tulsi Gabbard and fiance Abraham Williams

Tulsi Gabbard is set to marry Abraham Williams, who grew up in a family with strong ties to guru Chris Butler.

‘Science of Identity’

The Cult Education Institute’s forum on Chris Butler began back in 2004 and is still going strong. It has lasted long enough to reach nearly 500 pages, containing thousands of lengthy posts intended to shed light on Butler and the inner workings of his group, called the Science of Identity Foundation (http://www.scienceofidentityfoundation.net/).

The group formed in the early 1970s, and its leaders later sought to turn the organization into a political force in Hawaii by fielding a number of candidates for key political offices over the years. By and large, the candidates pushed for a brand of social reform that seemed to mimic Butler’s teachings, which stressed environmentalism, vegetarianism, and opposition to homosexuality and “illicit” sex.

And they had some successes: former state Sen. Rick Reed; former Maui County Council Member Wayne Nishiki; Mike Gabbard, who came back from his loss to Case to win a state Senate seat; and Carol Gabbard, who was elected to the Hawaii Board of Education.

It’s no wonder that longtime observers see Tulsi Gabbard’s steady climb from the Honolulu City Council to Congress as somehow connected to Butler.

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Chris Butler
Chris Butler, aka Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa, formed a Krishna community in Hawaii in the 1970s.

Butler, a Kalani High School graduate and son of a prominent Kailua doctor, Willis, was a disciple of A.C. Bahkitevedanta Swami Prabhupad, who founded the International Society of Krishna Consciousness 1966. The group is better known in Hawaii as Hare Krishnas, and it was widespread throughout the country in the 1960s and ’70s. Its members were highly visible here — with their shaved heads and orange robes, they were often seen in Waikiki, chanting and soliciting contributions.

An internal power struggle eventually led Butler to break away from ISKCON in the early ‘70s and form his own Krishna community in Hawaii. The group has since swiftly expanded, reaching the mainland and as far as Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong and the Philippines.

By most accounts, the community was made up of a loose-knit collection of individuals who eschewed the street-begging and instead chanted in the privacy of their homes or makeshift worship centers. Over the years, they banded together to start a number of businesses, including Down to Earth (http://www.downtoearth.org/) grocery stores and a number of other health-food related businesses under a company called Healthy’s Inc. A portion of the proceeds from these businesses usually got diverted to support the movement.

Around 2012, after Tulsi Gabbard announced her candidacy for Congress, the focus of contributors to the Cult Education forum turned from Butler himself to Gabbard and efforts to pin down her ties to the guru. The result: More than 100 pages of the thread now document the activities of Gabbard and her parents, as well as her four siblings and associates.

Many, if not most, of the posts contain claims that are not backed up by supporting material, and they can be readily dismissed as rumors and innuendo — even patently false. The posts are all anonymous, written by people who go by names like “zombiefied,” “dharmabum” and “jaggedguru.” Even the forum’s regular contributors have acknowledged that its content needs to be viewed skeptically.

But Civil Beat was able to verify a number of the ties that link Butler to Gabbard’s family and associates:

• Kainoa Penaroza, who was appointed as Gabbard’s Washington, D.C.-based chief of staff last month despite his relative lack of political experience (https://www.civilbeat.org/2015/02/no-political-pedigree-can-gabbards-top-advisor-succeed-in-d-c/), is the son of Bill Penaroza, who was among a slate of 14 candidates running for a variety of offices in 1976 under an enigmatic political party called the Independents for Godly Government. The party’s connection to Butler was revealed in a three-part (http://www.slideshare.net/civilbeat/walter-wright-1-of-3) investigative (http://www.slideshare.net/civilbeat/walter-wright-2-of-3) series (http://www.slideshare.net/civilbeat/walter-wright-3-of-3) by the Honolulu Advertiser’s Walter Wright in 1977.

Penaroza, 30, and his wife, Alana Leigh Penaroza, who now works as Gabbard’s D.C. fundraiser, at one time lived in a Kailua property owned by Joseph Bismark, a Singapore-based businessman whose company, QI Group, bought Healthy’s (http://www.qigroup.com/investments/wellness-health-spas/) in 2007.


Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that Healthy’s owns Noni Connection, which lists Kainoa Penaroza as a director. Healthy’s does not own Noni’s, according to Mark Fergusson, Healthy’s chief executive officer.

• Abraham Williams, Gabbard’s 26-year-old fiancé, is a freelance cinematographer who also grew up in a family with strong ties to Butler. His mother, Anya Anthony, is listed as a registered agent of Wai Lana Productions LLC, a company named after Butler’s wife, Wai Lan, that runs www.wailana.com, which sells yoga instruction DVDs, clothing and other accessories.

Anthony is now the manager of Gabbard’s district office in Honolulu. Last month, Gabbard put a post on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/VoteTulsi?fref=nf) introducing Anthony as her soon-to-be mother-in-law. Gabbard noted that she had asked the Congressional Ethics Committee to determine if it was ethical for the congresswoman to employ her future mother-in-law. The committee signed off on Anthony’s continued employment, a committee spokesman confirmed to Civil Beat.

• Sunil Khemaney, who accompanied (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/akandabaratam/conversations/messages/69750) Gabbard on her December trip to India, is listed in Wai Lana Productions’ business registration records as its manager. He is also the director of Healthy’s and one of the trustees of Wai Lana Yoga Trust, whose mission is to “educate and teach the general public about the philosophy, moral standards and practices of yoga for the benefit of mankind.”

Khemaney is also the vice president of the East West Yoga Foundation, a nonprofit registered in Arizona (http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/names-detail.p?name-id=02276206&type=CORPORATION). Chris Butler is listed in Arizona corporation records as its director, along with his wife, who is the president and director.

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Mike Gabbard was in the audience at a taping of Chris Butler’s TV show, “Jagad Guru Speaks,” which aired for several years in the 1980s and 1990s.

• Mike Gabbard has long maintained that he’s a Catholic, not Hare Krishna. But, in Honolulu Magazine’s 2004 profile, he acknowledged his ties to Butler: “Although I’m not a member of the Science of Identity Foundation, I’m eternally thankful to Chris Butler … whose teachings of karma yoga (selfless service) and bhakti yoga (devotion to God) have brought me back to my Catholic roots and the fundamental teachings of Christ.”
Plenty of evidence suggests that there’s more to the story than that.

Multiple historical documents show that, at various points in the history of the Science of Identity Foundation, both Mike and Carol Gabbard sat on its board. According to various reports, they were bestowed Sanskrit names, “Krishna Katha das” and “Devahuti dasi,” respectively.

The Gabbards were also in attendance at at least one taping of Butler’s local TV show called “Jagad Guru Speaks,” which aired for several years in the 1980s and ’90s. In old footage of the show, they can be seen in the audience, listening and laughing as Butler lectured on spirituality.

The Gabbards also owned a vegetarian restaurant in Honolulu called the Natural Deli, housed inside a Down to Earth health food store on King Street. But they were forced to sell the restaurant to Down to Earth in 1992 after an anti-gay comment Mike Gabbard made on a local radio show triggered fervent protests.

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State Sen. Mike Gabbard and his daughter US Rep. Tulsi Gabbard enter the Democratic Party Unity Breakfast on August 10, 2014
For years, rumors about their ties to guru Chris Butler have hounded U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and her father, state Sen. Mike Gabbard. PF Bentley/Civil Beat

Tulsi Gabbard’s World

Civil Beat found no evidence that Tulsi Gabbard is — or ever was — a Butler devotee. And we could find no record of her ever speaking publicly about it.

Gabbard has veered away from her earlier, conservative positions on social issues and voiced support for same-sex marriage — in stark contrast to her father, who still maintains his anti-gay stance, in line with Butler’s teachings.

In 2012, Gabbard told (https://www.civilbeat.org/2012/01/14558-tulsi-gabbards-leftward-journey/) Civil Beat that the changes were part of her “gradual metamorphosis” on social issues brought on by her experience of seeing oppression in the Middle East during her military deployments. As for her father’s views, she said: “While my parents and I have a very close relationship, and we love each other and respect each other very much, we don’t agree on everything.”

When it comes to religious choice, Gabbard has openly described herself as a Hindu since her 2012 campaign. At her swearing-in ceremony in January 2013, she took the oath of office on the Bhagavad Gita, a Hindu scripture, and became the first Hindu in Congress.

“I chose to take the oath of office with my personal copy of the Bhagavad Gita because its teachings have inspired me to strive to be a servant-leader, dedicating my life in the service of others and to my country,” Gabbard said that day (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/tulsi-gabbard-hindu-bhagavad-gita-swearing-in_n_2410078.html).

In a statement to Civil Beat sent Sunday, Gabbard touted the character of Hawaii voters for choosing “a Vaishnava Hindu” to represent them in Congress. “I make the most of every opportunity I get to tell the world that Hawaii is a place where people live the dream of Martin Luther King — where a person is judged not by the color of their skin, ethnicity, or religion,” she wrote.

Gabbard added: “Many Hindus have not felt they would be truly accepted for who they are, that they would have to change their religion. … My example and my words are very liberating to them, as I share with them and their children: ‘Every American has the right to run for political office or serve our community in any capacity he or she may choose.’”


“It probably has reached a point where it is to her benefit to start opening up and talking more frankly about this.” — University of Hawaii political science professor Colin Moore

Still, Gabbard’s conspicuous silence on her family’s ties to Butler — especially after the many times it’s come up in public discussions — has only made her detractors more suspicious.

But, even if Gabbard were a Butler devotee, does it matter? As Honolulu Weekly, in its 1992 profile of then-U.S. Senate candidate Rick Reed, put it: “Hey, candidates with a covert religious right-wing social agenda are a dime a dozen these days, even if most of them are doing it in the name of Christ, not Krishna.”

By and large, this question is met with a collective head-scratching. Beyond the vague notion of transparency, none of the people Civil Beat has interviewed, or even the Gabbard skeptics on the Cult Education forum, can point to any nefarious plot being concocted by Butler or offer an articulate explanation as to why Gabbard’s constituents should be alarmed by Butler’s potential influence on the congresswoman.

But that hasn’t stopped them from looking for evidence of a secret agenda. And there’s been no shortage of material for them to examine in recent months, given that Gabbard’s profile on the national stage has been rising to a new level — on the back of her unconventional, and often controversial (http://civilbeat.com/2015/03/the-faces-of-tulsi-gabbard-gop-buddy-friend-of-india-obama-critic), policy positions. She has made multiple appearances on cable and network TV news programs and conducts frequent interviews with the national and international press.

To some, all this attention to Gabbard’s faith is troubling. In fact, they have been arguing that the whole idea of examining Butler’s influence reeks of religious bigotry.

Historically speaking, they may have that argument on their side. After all, the minority faiths of politicians — be it Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, Joe Lieberman’s Judaism or John F. Kennedy’s Catholicism — have at times been singled out and met with bigoted backlash.

Gabbard experienced this firsthand in the run-up to the 2012 campaign when her GOP opponent, Kawika Crowley, told CNN that Gabbard’s Hinduism “doesn’t align with the constitutional foundation of the U.S. government.”

But others argue that discussing the religious identities of public officials and political candidates, particularly those on the national stage, has long been considered fair game.

And the questions, fair or not, are piling up. University of Hawaii political science professor Colin Moore says it might not make sense for Gabbard to keep her silence much longer.

“There comes a point where it begins to look more and more suspicious than perhaps it already is,” Moore said. “With this issue, it probably has reached a point where it is to her benefit to start opening up and talking more frankly about this, because this isn’t likely going away.”

John Hart, a longtime political pundit who chairs the communications department at Hawaii Pacific University, also points out that Gabbard’s recent criticism of Obama’s refusal to label the Islamic State as “Islamic extremists” bolsters the argument for those demanding transparency.

“Representative Gabbard has argued publicly on the ISIS issue that we need to consider religious affiliations to understand what we’re dealing with,” Hart said. “If that’s the case, then we shouldn’t be surprised to see that some people are going to apply that same standard” to her own faith.

Civil Beat reporters Chad Blair and Nick Grube contributed to this report.

Franny
5th December 2019, 07:08
This makes for some interesting reading as well - keeping in mind it's from New York Magazine

https://www.culteducation.com/group/1298-science-of-identity/34949-tulsi-gabbard-had-a-very-strange-childhood-which-may-help-explain-why-she-s-out-of-place-in-today-s-democratic-party-and-her-long-shot-2020-candidacy.html

Tulsi Gabbard Had a Very Strange Childhood Which may help explain why she’s out of place in today’s Democratic Party. And her long-shot 2020 candidacy.

New York Magzine/June 11, 2019

By Kerry Howley

The Poet

It was 1970-something, and Sina was not yet teaching at the University of Hawaii — a Samoan poet who had not yet become the first Samoan full professor in the States, and who had not yet written

of our oceans

the watery skin

of earth

pulled back to expose

a webbing of coral

rough & prickly

She was back in Samoa at a traditional Sunday feast with her mother, her brother Mike, her American sister-in-law, Carol, and three little boys so strikingly beautiful one would model professionally as a teen. They hadn’t yet sat down to eat, Sina remembers, when Mike announced that his wife and boys would not be able to eat most of what his mother had cooked, as they were now vegetarian. Also, everyone needed to stop calling the children by their birth names. Their new names were Bhakti, Jai, and Naryana. They were now devotees of a man named Chris Butler, whom they called Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa.

When Sina next visited Mike and Carol’s house, there was nothing on the walls but pictures of the immediate family and portraits of Chris Butler, a 30-something, tan, sandy-haired Caucasian, an aging beach boy in leis and white linen. Altars to him had sprung up in every room. The children’s lives were filed with ecstatic chanting, prayer, and beach gatherings exclusive to Butler devotees. Sina, who studied Eastern religions and spirituality and taught from the Bhagavad Gita, tried to be open-minded about the fact that they were, in her words, “bowing and prostrating to this white surfer guy — it was bizarre.” It was her Buddhist training to which she appealed in order to remain calm about her nephews attending Butler-focused schools and associating only with children whose parents were in the group, members of what she would come to see as the “alt-right of the Hare Krishna movement.” She said little about it outside the family until 2019, when one of her nieces, the most retiring and introverted of all the siblings, decided to run for president.

The Politician

It is strange but true that I first meet Tulsi Gabbard in a town run by an entirely different group of Caucasians taken by the ritualistic trappings of India. Fairfield, Iowa’s most politically liberal enclave, is centered on a university devoted to the teachings of an Indian guru named Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We’re at the convention center in February, a stone’s throw from a pair of snow-covered golden domes where the town attempts to levitate in the service of world peace. “Aloha!” Tulsi says, ascending to the dais in her signature red blazer. A thick gray stripe runs through her voluminous black hair. “Namaste!” a few people shout back.

“We share a deep love,” Tulsi says to a standing-room-only crowd of 200. She talks about love a lot in a way that might have provoked eye rolls pre-Trump but now just sounds appealingly weird. A Hindu veteran and millennial congresswoman of Samoan descent hailing from Hawaii, she brings together disparate constituencies: most noticeably, Bernie Sanders fans who love that she resigned from the Democratic National Committee to endorse him in 2016, but also libertarians who appreciate her noninterventionism, Indian-Americans taken by her professed Hinduism, veterans attracted to her credibility on issues of war and peace, and racists who interpret various statements she has made to be promising indications of Islamophobia.

That she is polling at one percent, sandwiched between Andrew Yang and Amy Klobuchar, suggests that bringing together these constituencies is not nearly enough, but the intensity of emotion she provokes on all sides sets her apart. When FiveThirtyEight asked 60 Democratic Party activists whom they didn’t want to win, Tulsi Gabbard came in first out of 17 candidates, a poll she used to rile up her own intensely motivated supporters, who tend to identify, proudly, as anti-Establishment outsiders.

In May, Joe Rogan, whose podcast is listened to millions of times each month by MMA fans, stoner bros, and self-styled freethinkers, chose his candidate. “Tulsi Gabbard’s my girl,” he said. “I’m voting for her. I decided. I like her. I met her in person. **** it.”

On the campaign trail, Gabbard talks frequently about the actual, material costs of forever war — trillions of dollars wasted, lives pointlessly lost — which is odd, because this is a campaign for votes and foreign-policy speeches are not what voters want. Though we are 18 years deep in an unwinnable war in Afghanistan and currently engaged in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Libya, the crowd in Fairfield is waiting for her to finish yammering about war and get to lines about Medicare for All and climate change, which she does, eventually, at which point they stop politely nodding and rise from their chairs to applaud.

Many have called Tulsi cold and lacking in charisma and “not particularly spontaneous.” She is not cold. She can be spontaneous in the right setting, exude charisma if engaged on the right subject. What she is — take it from someone with the same emotional profile — is remote. In interview after interview, she gives the impression of having anti-Establishment convictions just beyond the reach of articulation, as if she had carried instructions into battle and lost them. Her speeches feel not so much overly prepared as capably delivered from a separate location through her. She operates on the slightest delay, taking in information, scanning it, and delivering a slow response that registers only barely on her face.

Tulsi is a self-described introvert, an extremely quiet and obedient child grown into a woman whose job entails constant exhausting engagement. Her sister — Vrindavan to strangers, Davan to the campaign, and Davs to Tulsi — spoke for her back when they were kids, and she continues to do much of the talking for her today. When they were at a store as girls, it was Vrindavan who would interact with the cashier; Tulsi was too nervous. If the phone rang, Tulsi would wait for her sister to answer. If Vrindavan disobeyed their parents, Tulsi would be upset. “Please do your chores or our mother will have to do all of them!” Vrindavan recalls being scolded. “Our poor mother!”

Davan is a federal marshal currently on leave, used to keeping things running, and after the event, she’s behind the wheel of the SUV on the way to Iowa City. She drives carefully — like “an effing grandma,” she says, to which Tulsi, in the back holding hands with her husband, Abraham Williams, says, “Watch your language. PG-rated, please.” In the car is the entire traveling staff, which is to say the candidate, her sister, and her husband, an aspiring cinematographer who, at 30, is eight years her junior and consistently two feet away from her with a camera pointed at her face.

Abraham has known Tulsi since childhood, when they both appeared at gatherings presided over by Chris Butler. He proposed five years ago on a surfboard. Also accompanying her to Iowa is a quiet, mustachioed campaign worker named Sunil Khemaney; he gives me his card, which is branded with the campaign’s logo, but where a job title would typically go is empty white space. He runs a business owned by Chris Butler’s wife, and former members of the sect say he is Butler’s right-hand man.

I’m in the front with Davan, and it is she who explains to me how hard it is for Tulsi to compete in the most meaningful popularity contest on earth as someone who doesn’t really like talking to people. “Even when she was running for statehouse,” says Vrindavan, “she had to go door to door, and that’s like … Even if you’re not an introvert? That’s like not fun. You’re bothering people, and what are they gonna say when they open the door or whatever. As a younger sister, it’s a very big inspiration, knowing how much courage and selflessness it took. It’s not about what you want to do. There could not be a better role model or example for someone who may have grown up a little more … self-centered,” she says, laughing.

Tulsi sits quietly behind us. A long moment passes. “The anxiety she is talking about, I wouldn’t say it got easier,” she says. “There was a turning point when I first ran for Congress, where I had a realization that this anxiety was coming from a selfish place and from thinking about, you know, my own fears and how are people going to respond to me — I don’t want to bother people. That felt like it was coming from an inward-looking place, a selfish place, rather than my seeing them as beautiful opportunities to share my aloha. Once I realized that, that changed everything completely.”

The Blob

In the house, to which she was elected in 2012, Tulsi Gabbard does not behave like a representative who wants to remain in Congress; she appears to be building a political platform for another office. Her legislative record amounts to one anodyne bipartisan bill on veterans’ affairs, but she is constantly introducing “messaging bills” — non-committee-specific, hopeless pieces of legislation, often to do with the environment, such as one bill that would eliminate dependence on fossil fuels by 2035, but also one to end the federal marijuana prohibition, one requiring the president to ask Congress before going to war, a Sheldon Adelson–backed one to end internet gambling, and a resolution supporting Trump’s efforts in diplomacy with North Korea. It’s not uncommon to introduce symbolic bills meant to signal something to constituents; it’s just very hard to imagine the anti-gambling, pro-marijuana, pro-Trumpian-diplomacy constituent to which Tulsi appears to be signaling.

When Tulsi announced her intention to run for president in January, the response among journalists and pundits was essentially don’t. “Tulsi Gabbard Is Not Your Friend,” read a headline in the socialist publication Jacobin, a statement followed by a laundry list of unrelated reasons not to like her, despite her being a reliable progressive endorsed by Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club, and the AFL-CIO and particularly beloved by Jacobin fave Bernie Sanders.

The Nation has denounced her for “nationalism cloaked in anti-interventionism,” and when I mention her name to an expert paid by a prominent think tank to think publicly about foreign affairs, she sends a two-line email asserting that Tulsi is unqualified to lead and refuses to elaborate. When Joe Rogan mentioned the name to the New York Times columnist Bari Weiss, she looked alarmed and laughed.

“Monstrous ideas,” she said.

“Well, when she was 22, she — ”

“No! She’s an Assad toady.”

“What does that mean?” asked Rogan. “What’s a toady?”

“I think I’m using that word correctly,” Weiss said. “I think it’s like, T-O-A-D-I-E?”

“What does that mean?”

“I think it means,” said Weiss, scratching her head under her headphones, “what I think it means.”

“That’s known about her,” said Weiss, when they had settled on a definition of toady. “I don’t remember the details.”

Here are the details: Bashar al-Assad is a depraved dictator best known for his willingness to murder his own people, including many children, with chemical weapons. Tulsi Gabbard, a veteran of the Iraq War, has positioned herself as a noninterventionist liberal, a “peace candidate” who believes in diplomacy with unseemly characters such as Assad. She has taken a similarly conciliatory approach to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India’s Hindu-nationalist strongman, who is complicit in widespread violence against Muslims. She has visited Modi and given him a copy of the Bhagavad Gita, accepted a wedding gift from him, and opposed a House resolution “reaffirming the need to protect the rights and freedoms of religious minorities” that was a veiled jab at him.

The most obvious obstacle between any noninterventionist candidate and mainstream success is D.C.’s foreign-policy Establishment — the think-tankers and politicians and media personalities and intelligence professionals and defense-company contractors and, very often, intelligence professionals turned defense-company contractors who determine the bounds of acceptable thinking on war and peace. In parts of D.C., this Establishment is called “the Blob,” and to stray beyond its edges is to risk being deemed “unserious,” which as a woman candidate one must be very careful not to be. The Blob may in 2019 acknowledge that past American wars of regime change for which it enthusiastically advocated have been disastrous, but it somehow maintains faith in the tantalizing possibilities presented by new ones. The Blob loves to “stand for” things, especially “leadership” and “democracy.” The Blob loves to assign moral blame, loves signaling virtue while failing to follow up on civilian deaths, and definitely needs you to be clear on “who the enemy is” — a kind of obsessive deontological approach in which naming things is more important than cataloguing the effects of any particular policy.

The cult of war, however, cannot entirely explain the opposition to a candidate who constantly picks low-stakes, politically inopportune fights within her own party. During Barack Obama’s tenure, Tulsi repeatedly criticized him for failing to use the words Islamic extremism and described her concern about a “radical Islamic extremist agenda,” a move that earned her no love among members of her party, which had once considered her its future. She voted, with Republicans, to make it virtually impossible for Syrian refugees to come into the country. She has been strangely absent for votes relating to Russia and NATO and has racked up unwelcome support from Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, and David Duke. Her divergence from party orthodoxy on many issues is striking, against her self-interest, and lacking in any apparent narrative line. There is no cohesive ideology that explains the idiosyncratic political positioning, no single point of reference from which it all makes sense, and so the relevant question regarding Tulsi Gabbard is reducible to: What is she doing?

Over a series of months of reporting, I heard any number of hypotheses on this question. There was, for instance, the idea that she is so desperately attention-seeking that she seeks out bad press. There was the idea that she simply holds, with extreme tenacity, a number of unrelated, deeply unpopular beliefs in tension with any ambition she might have to be president, and there was the idea that she seeks favor with Modi in order to gain mainstream-Hindu legitimacy for Chris Butler’s otherwise obscure religious sect. There was the theory that she is a toady of Assad, though often she was said to be under the control of Modi, or Putin, and I began to wonder, when we try to expose her motives, whose subjectivity we are really exploring.

The Guru

When Tulsi talks about her girlhood, it is with a profound vagueness, a visible discomfort. In Iowa, there is awkward silence when I ask about her three brothers (“They’re kind of separate,” her sister eventually says) and silence when I ask about being homeschooled (“The schools in Hawaii weren’t very good,” Davan offers). Tulsi calls herself Hindu, the first Hindu member of Congress, in fact, though the group in which she appears to have grown up does not identify as Hindu. She says she was raised by “an eccentric Catholic father.”

In 1970, the Honolulu Advertiser published a piece called “One Man Rules Haiku Krishnaites,” with the subhead “Absolute power of devotees.” In the photo beside the piece, Butler is seated shirtless and smoking, hair skimming his shoulders and a sarong around his waist, staring alluringly into the distance, a mischievous smile on his face. It is the expression of less a guru than a playboy, and this is how Advertiser reporter Janice Wolf depicts him, a handsome dictator with the ability to hypnotize the two dozen 18-to-22-year-olds who live with him in his Quonset hut. One of the girls, an 18-year-old who also happened to have the Sanskrit name Tulsi, says he arranged her marriage to another member of the group. She and another girl, who say they would kill for him, describe his teachings. Among them: “Flowers scream when they’re picked. So do trees when they’re trimmed.” (“Tulsi and Boni were sitting on the lawn chewing blades of grass when they said this,” notes Wolf.)

Butler taught vegetarianism, sexual conservatism, mind-body dualism, and disinterest in the material world. He taught a virulent homophobia, skepticism of science, and the dangers of public schools. He had been associated with Hare Krishna, and in fact claimed to have been given his Sanskrit name, Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa, by the founder of the Hare Krishna movement, but by the time he encountered the Gabbards, he’d started his own group. His teachings revolved around worship of Krishna but differed from those of Hare Krishna, in that he instructed his followers to learn from only a single guru — himself — and did not require them to shave their heads or wear robes. The lack of formal dress allowed the group an anonymity he encouraged. He forbade them from visiting India, which is not typical of Hare Krishna, and, also against Hare Krishna practice, married.

His wife was one of his followers, Wai Lana, a popular yoga instructor who later had a long-running instructional yoga series on public television. (Abraham, Tulsi’s husband, has helped with filming Wai Lana’s videos; his mother also works for her.) Whenever Butler traveled, he’d have the homes he stayed in lined with tinfoil, to protect against electromagnetic radiation.

The children of those teenagers in the Quonset hut were born into the sect, as Tulsi was. Another, Greg Martin, wasn’t allowed to play with neighborhood children as a boy, so he looked forward to Sundays, when he’d spend all day on the beach in Kailua with all the families who worshipped as his did; when they’d wait for hours in the sun for Butler to arrive, and Tulsi’s father, Mike, would strum his guitar while leading a hundred devotees in hours of joyful chanting. “You just knew Mike was a dick,” says Greg. “He carried himself with dickishness.”

It was the 1980s. Greg says he and Tulsi attended these gatherings together, and years later, when Abraham was born, he’d see him too. (Tulsi says that she did not attend gatherings like these.) Waiting four or five or six hours for Siddhaswarupananda’s entrance built a kind of thrilling pressure, and Greg remembers Sundays as “incredibly theatrical.” Devotees with radios would place themselves at various high points along the beach, operating as a security force. “You’re waiting hours and hours for this dude to show up, and then when he does, people go absolutely wild — it’s all your family and all your friends singing and dancing and chanting, you’re so excited,” says Greg.

The guru would then address the crowd. He was good with the pregnant pause. He had the kind of easy confidence you’d expect from Krishna’s representative on Earth. He was also vulgar and vindictive. “He would start excoriating people for ****ing up. Sound systems not working, cups of water not being cleaned, people dressed funny, driving poorly. He would publicly mock people. And when he would do that — that’s a form of Krishna’s mercy.”

Everyone I spoke to who was raised in the group described, as children, hearing Butler call men “faggots” and women “cunts.” One time in Malibu, Greg recalls, Butler had passed a man on the beach in a thong on his way to the gathering; Butler then described in graphic detail what that man allegedly wanted his “boyfriend” to do to him. “That’s vivid as a kid,” says Greg, whose name is not really Greg; he does not want to be cut off from his family.

Back in the ’70s, Butler went by the name “Sai Young,” a name he possibly picked because he was a gifted baseball player who had hoped to go pro. In their boyhood, according to his estranged brother Kurt, Chris was the handsome, popular one. Their father, a family physician named Willis Butler, took them, their mother, and their siblings to protest Vietnam well before it was socially acceptable to do so. Kurt remembers the whole family standing along a sidewalk on the edge of the University of Hawaii campus, holding signs that read stop the war and stop the bombing. From their cars, people threw garbage at the family. They yelled things: “Losers,” “Love it or leave it,” “****ing commies.”

Their father was, in fact, a communist. The Butler patriarch loved the Soviet Union, thought North Korea a workers’ paradise. When Kurt brought home a geography book from school that mentioned political repression in the USSR, his father called it “lying propaganda.” When, as an adolescent, Chris pointed out that the Viet Cong had committed atrocities, his father wouldn’t hear it. Chris sought refuge in psychedelics, Kurt wrote in an email to me, then in meditation. He began writing poetry. He began giving meditation classes. “The classes,” says Kurt, “gradually evolved into a full-fledged cult.”

Butler’s group, called Science of Identity, has had political ambitions at least since 1976, when its members formed a political party called Independents for Godly Government and ran a number of candidates in local races. They kept their association with Butler under wraps until, in 1977, the Honolulu Advertiser published a three-part series headlined “The Secret Spiritual Base of a New Political Force.”

A party chair, Bill Penaroza, is the father of Tulsi Gabbard’s current chief of staff, Kainoa Penaroza. Kainoa had no political experience prior to being hired by Tulsi at age 30. He was managing one of the group’s health-food stores. Former members of the Science of Identity say that Butler has always craved legitimacy for his group among mainstream Hindus, and that he has come closest to achieving this through Tulsi Gabbard’s relationship to Narendra Modi.

n the videos made available to the public by the Science of Identity Foundation, Butler has cut his hair and donned a collared shirt under a V-neck sweater, and watching him lecture is a bit like imagining Mister Rogers if Mister Rogers were very stoned. In a typical lecture on the ephemeral nature of the body, he says, softly, “You can ask yourself the question, Am I my hand?” and holds out his hand. “And then you can ask yourself that if your hand was sitting on the other side of the room because it got — ya know — cut off by a sword or it fell off on your way to work or something, would you be where the hand is or would you be where you are looking at the hand?” He pauses. Cocks his head. “Actually,” he says, smiling, “try to imagine a person freaking out. It happens! Quite often; people lose their hands or they lose their arms, they lose their legs, or they lose their fingers, they lose an ear, or a tongue, whatever, and here they are — and some people lose their genitals! … You’re not any one part of your body.”

Ian Koviak is a Portland, Oregon–based book designer who has made covers for Sherman Alexie, James Patterson, and many other writers. He was 10 years old and living in Brooklyn, when his single mother found Butler’s group through a friend. They began to attend “gatherings,” in which families would listen to tapes of Butler’s teachings on philosophy and mythology, and also Butler’s curse-laden excoriations of group members who had disappointed him in some way.

“Basically, what one disciple did,” Koviak said, “was thwarting us from making spiritual progress.” Butler was a hypochondriac afraid of contamination, and this disciple might have washed his sheets with the wrong detergent, or set up his air filter incorrectly, or failed to cover their mouths with masks in his presence. Ian feared being a target of these lectures. “We regarded him as God’s representative on Earth,” he says, “It was an intense feeling that you’re displeasing someone that’s your only connection to a spiritual path and life.”

A year later, when he was 11, Koviak and his mother moved to Malibu, where Butler was then living, so she could be closer to him. A year after that, Koviak was sent to a boarding school in Baguio City, in the Philippines, run by Butler devotees, including a man named Toby Tamayo, the uncle of Tulsi’s first husband. They began the day at 4:30 with a cold bucket shower, followed by hours of chanting in the dark. They watched a video of “homosexual biker types in Folsom Street Fairs doing each other in the middle of the street. That would pan off to a guy in a wheelchair who has AIDS. Then at the end of the video the guy dies.”

There was, Koviak says with equanimity, “light sexual abuse, the kind of thing that happens when you put 30 boys in a bunch of rooms. People groping you at night.” Koviak stayed at this boarding school for four years, from age 12 to 16, during which he saw his mother only once.
The Fall

When Tulsi was 14, her father founded a nonprofit called Stop Promoting Homosexuality America and began hosting a radio show called “Let’s Talk Straight Hawaii.” Her parents owned an organic deli, located inside a larger natural-foods store owned by Butler’s followers. On his show, Gabbard declared he would always hire a straight person rather than someone of nontraditional sexual orientation, at which point the deli was picketed and quickly went out of business. The station pulled the program, but Gabbard was energized; he led the fight against gay marriage in the state.

Tulsi began political life in her teens, knocking on doors with her father, who went on to be elected to the city council, and eventually the state senate, where, socially conservative and pro environmental regulation, he remains.

At 21, Tulsi was Tulsi Gabbard Tamayo, having married a man involved with Butler’s group, and like many people at that age, she had yet to outgrow the views with which she was raised. But unlike most 20-somethings grappling with the ideological legacies of their parents, Tulsi was elected to Hawaii’s house of representatives at 21, becoming the youngest woman ever elected to a state legislature.

Her early opposition to abortion and gay marriage would be a part of her political record. After a single term, she joined the military, later saying she’d been motivated by 9/11, and deployed in Iraq and Kuwait. Critics might draw a line from her deployment at a time of American Islamophobia through her later sympathies for Assad and Modi. But that story may be too neat. Her tours were her first time as an adult out of Hawaii, away from her family and the religious sect in which they were enmeshed.

In Iraq, Tulsi was in a medical unit on a base 40 miles north of Baghdad, an area sometimes known as “Mortaritaville,” where shells exploded and sirens wailed as she took cover in a concrete bunker. She worked 12-hour shifts out of a mobile trailer with a small window; during storms, she watched “an orange wave of sand” envelop everything and shook with the wind.

Every day at 9 a.m. she scrolled through an Excel spreadsheet of casualties. These were American troops for whom she was supposed to organize treatment. “That daily task — it left an indelible impression on me,” she says, “understanding behind every one of these names is a soldier, sailor, seeing the volume of people paying the price for war. It caused me to think about those who made a decision to start this war. I wondered if they ever thought about these people, their families.”

When she returned, her positions on social issues eventually fell a bit more in line with the party; she said that living in a theocracy had changed her, and she no longer believed the state should dictate the romantic or reproductive lives of its citizens. She divorced Tamayo, won a seat on the city council, and ran for Congress against the Democratic Establishment candidate, a pro-life, anti-gay-marriage former mayor of Honolulu 27 years her senior. A Democratic National Committee in need of speakers for the party’s national convention turned to a young, attractive multicultural woman veteran and Congressperson who voted left but sounded credible on national security.

“I can’t tell you how many people have mentioned your name and said, ‘This is the one to look out for,’ ” Suzanne Malveaux said to her on CNN. “Tell us why. I mean, people see you as a rising star.” She was called a rising star on ABC and she was called a rising star in the Washington Post and she won her election easily, at which point she became no longer the youngest woman in a state legislature but the youngest woman in Congress. A rapturous Vogue profile praised her for her “fit physique,” soldier’s stamina, and a “smile so warm that it’s no surprise Web sites have offered polls rating her ‘hotness,’ ” a truly curious reading of hotness polls.

The fall from rising star to party pariah began with a gift from the Establishment. As a 31-year-old freshman representative, she was chosen for a DNC vice-chairmanship, an easy way for a new face to achieve visibility. During the Democratic primary season, Tulsi began arguing with DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz, demanding that there be more than six debates in the Democratic primary (a move that would theoretically benefit Sanders); Wasserman Schultz, according to Tulsi, suggested that she not come to the next one. When Tulsi later endorsed Bernie Sanders over a woman who supported campaigns in Iraq and Libya, it was after Sanders had suffered a devastating loss to Clinton in South Carolina; once again, this was not a move that could be explained by political calculation.

Syria doesn’t get much airtime on American television news — it’s a horrifying, complicated proxy war involving Iran and Saudi Arabia and Russia to which Americans have neither answers nor the will to meaningfully intervene. It is not good content. But when Tulsi Gabbard appears on any given news program, a Blob-driven game ensues: corner Tulsi into insulting Assad.

“Do you think Assad is our enemy?” asked Kasie Hunt on a February episode of Morning Joe.

“Assad is not the enemy of the United States, because Syria does not pose a direct threat to the United States,” said Tulsi in her slow monotone.

Joe Scarborough broke in: “Is he an adversary?”

“We have to look to who poses a threat to the United States — ”

“Is he an adversary?” Scarborough asked again.

“What would you say he is?” asked Mika Brzezinski. “If you cannot say he is an adversary or an enemy, what is Assad to the United States? What is the word?”

At this Tulsi finally smiles, incredulous — a look of condescending skepticism. “You can describe it however you want to describe it. My point is — ”

“I want to know how you describe it!” said Brzezinski. “Adversary,” she says to herself, very quietly. “It’s not hard.”

The Silence

For many years in Kailua, the Gabbards’ known involvement with the Science of Identity went largely unremarked upon. It took an outsider, a 45-year-old special-education teacher and independent journalist Christine Gralow, who moved to the island just three years ago, to get curious enough to start asking questions. She mapped a web of relationships among devotees. “I had no idea,” she told me, “that this was going to lead me to Tulsi Gabbard.”

Soon after, she attended a town hall run by Tulsi. It was alarming for her to recognize so many faces from her research, and the whole production felt oddly staged. Gralow asked some questions about Syria, to boos from the crowd, and held up a protest sign. She interviewed anyone in the community who would talk and published it all on her website, meanwhileinhawaii.org, which is when the DDOS attacks started. She says, undaunted, that she has seen members of the group waiting outside her home, taking pictures. “I’m a special-ed teacher,” she says, “and special-ed teachers don’t like bullies.”

Tulsi Gabbard’s response to questions about the Science of Identity frequently begin with accusations of religious bigotry and “Hinduphobia.” Her campaign website once mentioned her years in the Philippines, but that reference has been removed. When The New Yorker asked her if she had a spiritual teacher, she said she had had “many different spiritual teachers,” that none was more important than the others, and that she has never heard Chris Butler say an unkind thing. (“I don’t even know what to say about that,” says Ian Koviak.) The campaign’s position is that any serious inquiry into Tulsi’s religious background constitutes a Hinduphobic line of attack to which other candidates would not be subject, though again, Butler’s group does not identify as Hindu.

I knew nearly nothing of Tulsi’s backstory when I found myself in her car back in February, and so in April, when she returned to Iowa City, I arranged for a follow-up conversation at a vegan restaurant. On the day before the interview, a staffer texted me to ask about the gist of my questions.

The morning of, I was told that the interview was canceled. I then reached out to another staffer, who eventually said Tulsi would take questions on religious matters via email, at which point I sent a series of questions regarding Chris Butler, the Science of Identity, the beach gatherings to which Greg Martin had referred, her time in the Philippines, and when, precisely, Tulsi began to identify as Hindu. Tulsi replied with an email that declined to mention Hinduism, Butler, the Science of Identity, the gatherings, or the Philippines.

“My ‘religion,’ ” she wrote, “is my loving relationship with God, and the motivation that springs from that relationship to try my best to use my life in the service of humanity and the planet.”

But as late as 2015, in a video still up on YouTube, Tulsi publicly acknowledged her guru-dev to be Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa, Chris Butler.

No one I spoke to with personal experience of the group, including Tulsi’s aunt, thought it possible that Tulsi Gabbard had somehow left Chris Butler’s sphere of influence, that her thirst for world peace and her persistent concerns about Islam were positions held independent of his counsel. “I don’t think that she is a bad person or in any way malicious,” says Koviak. “Butler’s agenda from way back in the ’70s has always been to have a political hold in some way. Now he has realized his dream through Tulsi Gabbard.” Says Rama Ranson, who maintains the blog RamaRansonvsthecult.com, “Her success is Butler’s success.”
The Storm

The analysis is like, ‘Oh, she just loves dictators,’ ” says Vrindavan.

“She loves dictators,” says Abraham, “and is also an opportunist who wants to advance politically.”

The snow is coming down harder now as we make our way to Iowa City. Flights are canceled. Cars have been abandoned on the side of the road. They consider canceling the stump speech, but here we are in Iowa and no one has anywhere else to be.

“Looks like this may be a very intimate event!” jokes Vrindavan.

Tulsi looks slightly concerned but holds it all in. For once, Abraham is not filming. He’s watching surf videos on his phone. Tulsi leans forward, suddenly spontaneous.

“Do you know who Kelly Slater is?” she asks. She’s telling me about a surfing competition featuring men and women, where the women slayed. She leans forward to show me. “This is Kelly Slater’s wave pool. This is the first time in a sanctioned competition hosted by the world surf league where men and women have competed in the exact same wave conditions, size and everything! That finals day that we were there? I think seven of eight men did not even complete their first wave!”

Vrindavan is cracking up. “That should not make me happy!” she says. Abraham hands me his phone so I can watch a GoPro video of Tulsi surfing.

“Every time she goes home, she’s on the water,” says Vrindavan. “Every morning”

“The best spot to go is [redacted],” says Abraham.

“You can’t publish that name!” says Vrindavan.

“We walk to the beach,” says Tulsi.

“It’s a two-minute walk,” says Abraham.

“It’s not two minutes,” says Tulsi.

“Like five.”

“It might take two minutes to skate there,” says Tulsi.

“Oh yeah,” says Vrindavan. “They skateboard.”

The Last Straw

Over the few months I was reporting this piece, Tulsi’s transient aunt called me from a plane; from an apartment in Portland, Oregon; from her home in Hawaii; and finally, unexpectedly, from a new home in Samoa, deep in Oceania, “as far as you can get from anywhere else.” It was a surprise even to her, but she had had a charged email correspondence with the island’s high ranking official and on a whim decided to return in retirement. “It was not my plan at all, not at all,” she says. “I’m here in the ancient world now. I’m operating in a framework of unbroken antiquity. It’s a riot of joy. I’m sprouting into a rain forest.”

Tulsi’s candidacy was not the first time that Sina felt compelled to speak to the press. When, in the early ’90s, her brother became the poster boy for homophobia in Hawaii, she very much wanted to say something, but in the thick of personal and medical challenge, she was advised by her therapist to say nothing much and left journalists’ calls unreturned.

Years later, when Trump emerged victorious on Election Night 2016, she was inert for two days, and it wasn’t until she heard a rousing statement about resistance out of the mouth of Elizabeth Warren that she “literally got off the couch.” She thought about her only vector to power. She texted Tulsi, Sina says, and while she waited for a response, Tulsi met with Donald Trump, declined to join her colleagues in denouncing Steve Bannon, and met with Assad. When the family invited her to Thanksgiving dinner, Sina did not go. Tulsi never called back.

It was, finally, the failure to sign the letter denouncing Bannon that pushed Sina over the edge of reticence. “An alarming pattern of Tulsi’s priorities is becoming increasingly clear and problematic,” Sina wrote on Facebook. “Having been a citizen twice as long as I’ve been Tulsi’s aunt, I hold my responsibilities for both roles as equally significant.”

She is still in frequent contact with the family despite everything. She and her brother share responsibility for an intellectually disabled relative, and so Sina and Tulsi’s mother confer about her care. “I used to think lifelines are what you toss to someone who falls overboard,” she writes in her book Alchemies of Distance. “But my sailor friend says, ‘No, lifelines are the ones that help keep you inside the boat.’ ”

The End

How far does our commitment to religious diversity extend? Is it weirder to follow the dictates of a surfer guru who believes the moon landing was a hoax than to claim, as does Evangelical Mike Pence, that the establishment of Israel represents biblical prophecy? Georgia representative Jody Hice believes you can predict major political events through a succession of “blood moons.” A recent member of Congress claims pregnancy by “legitimate rape” is impossible. Because he believes bee pollen cured his allergies, former Iowa senator Tom Harkin has wasted millions of taxpayer dollars failing to prove the legitimacy of various alternative medicines, pollen among them.

In February, Tulsi Gabbard introduced a draft bill intended to keep Trump from pulling out of a nuclear-arms treaty; the move was supported by representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar. (Abraham shot a Facebook Live video of a press conference for the bill, during which an expert on nuclear war spoke of Armageddon while red hearts floated past his face.) Three months later, she said she’d pardon Edward Snowden and drop charges against Julian Assange.

The Democratic front-runner in every poll was a man who both signed the Authorization of Military Force, which has since been used to justify interventions in 14 countries, and hailed its signing as an inspiring act of democratic legitimacy. And when it appeared possible that the United States was gearing up for a military intervention in Venezuela under the guise of humanitarian aid, only one presidential candidate was willing to condemn the idea.

As Bernie Sanders has moved toward a compromise position on military intervention abroad, Gabbard has chosen not to accept “this worldview, this regime-change-war addiction,” and has not backed down from the statement about “people whose whole careers have been built around support for these wars.”

Maybe Tulsi Gabbard is a toady, or naïve, or negative-attention seeking, or maybe a boy who grew up watching his father ridiculed decided to build a world in which he never would be, and in the world he built appeared a girl capable of holding firm to brazen ideas the world disdains. There are good actors and bad ones, but you don’t get to know what is in a candidate’s heart. If you think you do, you’ve been fooled. There is only the story they tell and the one you choose to believe. There are the votes they show up for and the forces they resist — the strength of the lifeline and into what strange waters they steer the boat.

To see more documents/articles regarding this group/organization/subject click here (http://www.culteducation.com/group/1298-science-of-identity.html).

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This is a very interesting and lengthy investigative article (https://www.meanwhileinhawaii.org) on Tulsi, her family and the Science of Identity organization and guru from June of 2019.

Delight
6th December 2019, 03:05
MSNBC and all establishment media manipulating the information potential voters will see.

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mountain_jim
6th December 2019, 14:00
Franny I appreciate these in-depth article describing her family history and her history, but I must say it does not make me like her any less as a thoughtful, spiritually tuned, potential leader.

I see no other current Democratic party national candidates I can say that about.

Franny
7th December 2019, 04:03
Franny I appreciate these in-depth article describing her family history and her history, but I must say it does not make me like her any less as a thoughtful, spiritually tuned, potential leader.

I see no other current Democratic party national candidates I can say that about.

I tend to agree with you on this point. It's a part of her background and important. However, she she will not address the question so digging for information is the only means to learn about it. On one hand I understand her reluctance to discuss it as she still has ties to this controversial group/cult, on the other she has altered her views since her earlier years when she was deeply involved. Time will tell or at least give us a better understanding of where she actually stands.

As a congresswoman and as a potential, though an unlikely president, I want to know what her positions are and how close her ties to the group and Chris Butler are particularly since she has never, even indirectly, renounced them or indicated she is no longer a member.

Delight
14th December 2019, 17:39
I know we can sometimes be fooled by words BUT when Tulsi Gabbard speaks, I feel it in my bones as a resonant chime of YES. I love that feeling. She talks about how powerfully people bond when they share unity of purpose. The whole thing about the military is that it does create that shared bonding. BUT IMO the military uses a quality that is inherent in us as beings. We are individuals who seek unity through purpose. IMO Gabbard undersatnds how we could unite for the purpose of actually solving the issues we face. Her strengths and her lack of affiliation with the powerful "pay to play" culture is a threat.IMO, she is inspiring!!!! I will see her able to win in 2020.... I call on Pepe (hehe).

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Delight
19th December 2019, 00:27
Tulsi Gabbard is again confirming that she follows principles that IMO we really need to thrive as a country.

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mountain_jim
19th December 2019, 12:39
Tulsi's explanation of impeachment vote video

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Pam
19th December 2019, 12:51
Franny I appreciate these in-depth article describing her family history and her history, but I must say it does not make me like her any less as a thoughtful, spiritually tuned, potential leader.

I see no other current Democratic party national candidates I can say that about.

I tend to agree with you on this point. It's a part of her background and important. However, she she will not address the question so digging for information is the only means to learn about it. On one hand I understand her reluctance to discuss it as she still has ties to this controversial group/cult, on the other she has altered her views since her earlier years when she was deeply involved. Time will tell or at least give us a better understanding of where she actually stands.

As a congresswoman and as a potential, though an unlikely president, I want to know what her positions are and how close her ties to the group and Chris Butler are particularly since she has never, even indirectly, renounced them or indicated she is no longer a member.

When you think about it, it really is no different than someone being raised in a cult group like Catholicism or Southern Baptists or our public school indoctrination camps. Who doesn't have something a bit weird in their upbringing?

Pam
19th December 2019, 12:58
Tulsi Gabbard is again confirming that she follows principles that IMO we really need to thrive as a country.

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This is what I love about her. She can think independently and she won't compromise what she believes is right, also her thinking processes are so good. I am so disappointed that apparently the masses cannot see how rare and valuable this woman is. The fact that slime like Biden can be far more desirable than this woman is incomprehensible to me. I feel like I am living in a madhouse on the planet at this time.

ExomatrixTV
19th December 2019, 20:52
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onawah
19th December 2019, 22:07
What I would like to know more about is Tulsi's ties with the Council on Foreign Relations.
A discussion here from 2017 that focuses more on that: https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/60ufas/cmv_tulsi_gabbard_is_a_member_of_cfr_council_on/
More here: https://libertyconservativenews.com/why-is-tulsi-gabbard-part-of-the-globalist-council-on-foreign-relations/
This from May 2019, where Tulsi says in a video that she became a a "term member" of the CFR in 2013 (for members under the age of 40), which entails a membership of 5 years. No indication as to whether she was admitted again to the CFR after that initial membership ended.
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This from June 2019 showing she is no longer on the online list of CFR's membership: http://www.renegadetribune.com/cfr-removed-tulsi-gabbard-from-its-membership-list-after-renegades-expose/
...though that may simply be because her 5 year term was up at that point.
The question is whether she will re-apply, be re-admitted, and could actually be or become another pawn of the NWO.
It seems clear that it's very easy to get swallowed up in that swamp, no matter how good one's original intentions might be.
Until the swamp is really drained, even if Tulsi's motivations are pure, she could still become another sort of sacrificial virgin to that sucky swamp.

Delight
20th December 2019, 02:08
I feel like I am living in a madhouse on the planet at this time.

ME TOO! Tulsi Gabbard is someone I support because of the same things you said


She can think independently and she won't compromise what she believes is right, also her thinking processes are so good. I am so disappointed that apparently the masses cannot see how rare and valuable this woman is.

Tonight I feel really sad about the state of the world. I cannot believe how strange everything looks.

Delight
25th December 2019, 06:29
If Tulsi Gabbard is not genuine, is not telling us her truth, then I have no character assessment skills. Nah, I trust my discernment skills. PEACE. I expect that it is possible and I am feeling many of us gathering our hearts together and making up our minds together.

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Delight
25th December 2019, 21:02
Tulsi gabbard is IMO being shunned by the DNC. This inspires me to appreciate the powerful threat her ideas appear to the status quo.


Yang asks 'Where's Tulsi?' after video of Democratic candidates leaves her out
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 12/24/19 08:12 PM EST 544 (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/475887-yang-asks-wheres-tulsi-after-video-of-dem-candidates-leaves-her-out)

Yang asks 'Where's Tulsi?' after video of Democratic candidates leaves her out
Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang posted and later deleted a tweet questioning why Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) was excluded from a video message filmed by a number of candidates running for the party's presidential nomination on Tuesday.

The video, posted Monday by the Democratic National Committee's (DNC) Twitter account, features Yang alongside a slew of other Democratic candidates for president, including Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).

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It's part of a fundraising push for the DNC's Democratic Unity Fund, which works to support whichever candidate wins the Democratic nomination following the primary. Gabbard is not among the candidates in the video.

In a now-deleted tweet, Yang wrote, "Where's Tulsi?"

He followed up the message with an explanation, writing, "Just posted a tweet about a DNC video when I was unaware of the criterion used. That’s why we have teams around us - to let us know these kinds of things. Happy Holidays!"

The DNC did not immediately respond to a request for clarification on what the requirements were for appearing in the video.

Gabbard failed to qualify for December's Democratic debate, and Yang himself lies on the verge of not qualifying for the Democratic debate in January following the DNC's decision to raise the requirements for participation.

But the video has received some attention on social media since two other Democratic candidates who have yet to appear on stage in any of the debates, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, are both in the video.

Both Patrick and Bloomberg joined the race in November.

Delight
27th December 2019, 00:29
I like feeling the friendliness that Tulsi Gabbard projects.

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Delight
29th December 2019, 01:13
My brother suggested I write a letter to Tusi Gabbard. This is what I will say to her.

Dear Major Gabbard,

i respect the idea of a military. It is not just about war. The military is a masculine kind of environment IMO because it is about stressing oneself to hone skills. It subjects people to their limites of endurance. Ideally the physical health and vitality is developed. It creates a brotherly feeling of comrade ship. It emphasizes righteous protection of the values held dear. It creates a team of people with a single aim of gaurdianship. There are many ways that even the "fighting" implied by a military serves an individual there. Poeple feel a heart connection to their experience.Unfortunately war makes people feel heroic and alive. But there can be other ways to stimulate heroic endeavors.

I think a civilian conservation corp like in the 1930's was a great example of utilizing an espirit of the heart and people built lasting systems and structures while involved. I support the move to end war and rebuild this country with all the tax that has been siphoned off to feed the Military Industrial Complex.

Supporting you is making me happy. I have faith that you are genuine so I may know what you intend. I feel better as I think about a future that makes sense to me because there are wayshowers like you I trust. We have been so brutalized by political games man ship that was devoid of connection to what COULD serve us best. If you succeed in your intentions to bring new ideas to light, and lead US in uniting to love the future children's children, we will be well served.

Delight
16th January 2020, 02:59
The thing I love about Tulsi Gabbard is willingness to call out the unintended/self inflicted crises from our regime change wars.

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enigma3
16th January 2020, 17:52
Did you know she is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)? That gives me pause.

mountain_jim
16th January 2020, 18:40
Did you know she is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)? That gives me pause.

With this post, now discussed in every page of this thread starting with post #2.

mountain_jim
22nd January 2020, 19:13
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-sues-hillary-clinton-over-russian-asset-remark



Tulsi Gabbard Sues Hillary Clinton Over 'Russian Asset' Remark

ep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) has filed a lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, accusing the former Secretary of State of defamation for remarks characterizing the Democratic presidential candidate as a Russian asset.

Filed on Wednesday in the US District Court for the Southern District of New York, Gabbard's attorneys allege that Clinton "smeared" Gabbard's "political and personal reputation," according to The Hill.

"Tulsi Gabbard is a loyal American civil servant who has also dedicated her life to protecting the safety of all Americans," said Gabbard's attorney Brian Dunne in a statement.

"Rep. Gabbard’s presidential campaign continues to gain momentum, but she has seen her political and personal reputation smeared and her candidacy intentionally damaged by Clinton’s malicious and demonstrably false remarks."

In a podcast released in October, Clinton said she thought Republicans were "grooming" a Democratic presidential candidate for a third-party bid. She also described the candidate as a favorite of the Russians.

Clinton did not name the candidate but it was clear she was speaking about Gabbard.

"They're also going to do third party. I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said.

"She's the favorite of the Russians, they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset. Yeah, she's a Russian asset, I mean totally. They know they can't win without a third party candidate," Clinton said. -The Hill


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ExomatrixTV
22nd January 2020, 23:47
@enigma3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?30259-enigma3) Not everybody knows all about CFR ... she may well have connections telling her "it is something good" not thinking much of it. I do not think Tusli is a "CFR agent".

As often in PUBLIC life ... people invite you to go places with seemingly good intentions ... when it turned out something different, does not make you "100% guilty by association" but rather possible victim of (directed) circumstances not known to her when it was done!

And even if she is informed about CFR later on, what can she do if she is NOT part of their agenda? The moment she attacks CFR her life will go something like Alex Jones's fate!

cheers,
John

ExomatrixTV
23rd January 2020, 21:24
Tulsi Gabbard Launches $50M Lawsuit Against Hillary Clinton For Defamation Over INSANE Russia Theory:
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Tulsi Gabbard speaks out on $50M lawsuit against Hillary Clinton:
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T Smith
24th January 2020, 18:59
It's evident to me Tulsi Gabbard is the real deal. Overall, I'm cynical about "real-deal" politicians ever going anywhere, but that doesn't mean I won't support her strive.

As far as the entire CFR controversy, the outer layers of the CFR are completely benign. Anyone who needs to network and make connections in DC (e.g. any fledgling politician) is well advised to join the CFR. But at this level it's not much different from subscribing to a magazine. To imply that connection taints her reputation is kind of like comparing Uncle Harry, a member and frequenter at the local Moose Lodge every Tuesday night, with the inner circle of Free masons in league with the Satanic practices of Aleister Crowley.

Delight
25th January 2020, 02:35
It's evident to me Tulsi Gabbard is the real deal. Overall, I'm cynical about "real-deal" politicians ever going anywhere, but that doesn't mean I won't support her strive.

Tulsi Gabbard is true blue.

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Delight
25th January 2020, 23:23
Dennis Kucinich Endorses Tulsi Gabbard & Anti-War Fight

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ExomatrixTV
3rd February 2020, 19:55
Tulsi Gabbard: Spat with DNC/Hillary Clinton locking her out of the process:
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CNN is blocking Tulsi Gabbard!

mountain_jim
7th March 2020, 19:05
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Franny
13th March 2020, 05:21
Tulsi Gabbard speaks out.

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mountain_jim
13th March 2020, 12:40
My interest in her being elected president grows with every word she speaks - in a better country/world she would be the Dem candidate this year.

Sarah Rainsong
13th March 2020, 13:28
Is there some unknown path to ascension where if all the of the old, high-risk Democratic candidates get struck down by a virus, then the loan remaining candidate automatically becomes the nominee? Not that I'm wishing ill on anyone, but it would be nice to see Tulsi as the actual nominee. #wishfulthinking

Delight
15th March 2020, 19:14
Is there some unknown path to ascension where if all the of the old, high-risk Democratic candidates get struck down by a virus, then the loan remaining candidate automatically becomes the nominee? Not that I'm wishing ill on anyone, but it would be nice to see Tulsi as the actual nominee. #wishfulthinking

Fist, there are threads about Biden which indicate he is not what we need in the US http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?searchid=19838331

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I had a conversation with a friend that was so bizarre. She does have a visceral hatred of Trump that can actually cause her rage enough to shout.

She insisted that EVERYONE who cares about the US must vote for the Democratic candidate to save us. I suggested that Biden has obvious mental issues. However, she glosses over it saying that she WILL vote for him if he is nominated.

I am no fan of Trump. I really like Tulsi Gabbard who is smart, clear, consistent and YOUNG. I don't wish harm to the persons but .... maybe they will be ALL be too sick to continue and Tulsi will be the only one. That would be a wonderful event IMO as IMO she is a TRUE human.

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Chester
15th March 2020, 21:34
I would vote for Tulsi Gabbard

Delight
16th March 2020, 18:49
The Silencing of Tulsi Gabbard is Bad For America- She tried to warn us about COVID-19
M L D (https://medium.com/@michele.delangeavl/the-silencing-of-tulsi-gabbard-is-bad-for-america-f3c3a34c822f)

The past week has been tumultuous in the United States. The Democratic primary election occupied nearly all the news feeds just a week ago. Today there’s little in the news about the election, except for voting postponement announcements. The new focus is on the pandemic. COVID-19 is officially real for Americans.
The level of anxiety expressed on social media indicates the arrival of COVID-19 was under-anticipated, yet for months other nations have communicated the need for immediate worldwide action to address the spread of the virus. Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has been a consistent voice highlighting the urgent need for the United States to prepare.
The February 21, 2020 Democratic debate featured many attacks on billionaires, but little substantive discussion to demonstrate to voters who the candidates are and what they propose. Gabbard has been excluded from the debate stage since November. The candidate who managed to insert discussion of foreign policy, corruption and service to Americans into the June, July and November debates, communicated she would have ensured discussion of COVID-19 and issues of foreign policy if she had been included in the February debate.

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Over 3 weeks ago Americans might have heard about COVID-19 & upcoming actions in Iraq had Gabbard been included in The February debate.
March 15th is the next scheduled debate. It has been relocated and reformatted. Instead of taking place in Arizona, it will be held in Washington DC and in lieu of holding a debate between the remaining candidates, it will be between two of the three candidates. On Super Tuesday, Gabbard qualified to participate in the final two debates. A few days after, the DNC changed the qualification requirements to once again exclude Gabbard. Neither Sanders nor Biden have objected to the exclusion of the third candidate.

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DNC Changes Debate Qualification Rules after Super Tuesday, Eliminating Only Tulsi Gabbard

The exclusion of Gabbard from the March 15th debate will again be a loss for voters with specific regard to the current health crisis. Gabbard is familiar with effective protocol for identifying and containing the virus, she references successful practices of countries such as South Korea and Scotland and calls for the United States to implement similar life-saving practices. Gabbard is the co-chair of the House Nursing Caucus, making her keenly informed about issues for medical personnel. It would be good to hear a voice for the growing problems nurses face with this pandemic.

Tulsi Gabbard on Nationwide Nurse Shortage (https://www.tulsigabbard.org/tulsi-gabbard-on-nationwide-nurse-shortage)

The public is now receiving wider coverage of COVID-19, however Gabbard’s proposed measures to help Americans impacted by the virus aren’t reported. On March 12th, Gabbard introduced H. Res 897, legislation to provide help to offset economic hardship associated with COVID-19.
Most certainly Sanders and Biden will be asked to address COVID-19 in the March 15th talk. Perhaps Gabbard’s work on this issue will be represented by the two candidates who are included in the talk.
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Introduces Resolution Calling for Emergency Universal Basic Payment as Direct Coronavirus Pandemic Relief
March 12, 2020 (https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/rep-tulsi-gabbard-introduces-resolution-calling-emergency-universal-basic)

A century after women fought for and won the right to vote, it’s difficult to accept that an exceedingly qualified woman like Gabbard is denied her rightful place at the podium. The DNC dismisses the last remaining female candidate, a combat veteran who has served the country well.

Few Democrats question this.

Given the climate in the primary, it’s not realistic to expect ideas that benefit Americans will be shared if informing voters means crediting Gabbard instead of the candidates included in the debate. This is the overarching problem in government that Gabbard speaks about in her town halls- the refusal to support good ideas and legislation because doing so might help the opponent win his next election, even when the legislation would help Americans. Gabbard wants this to change.
With school, work, sports and social events rapidly being cancelled due to COVID-19, from the safety of sanitized homes, perhaps this is an opportunity to pause and reflect on the way the Democratic primary election has unfolded and what this means for the future of the country.
The primary began with 29 candidates vying for the Democratic nomination. Eight months ago, 25 candidates had active campaigns. On Super Tuesday, there were five candidates. Now there are three (only two acknowledged by the DNC.)

The debates have done little to inform voters. The DNC seems more interested in creating a ratings spectacle than informing the country. What voters know of the candidates comes mainly from following the candidates on social media and for some, individual research of service and voting records of the candidates. Research of candidate records takes time, time that many don’t feel they have. Voters end up relying on their gut feeling or what the media presents. This has harmed Gabbard’s campaign.

Despite the fact Gabbard’s trip to Syria was authorized and this diplomacy occurred in effort to avert a repeat of the mistakes of the Iraq War, the suggestion she’s an apologist to the Assad regime is repeated in the media and by opponents. If members of Congress had shown similar courage to travel to Iraq to verify facts in 2002, they would have been named a Saddam apologist. Vilification in the media is the reward for demanding facts and securing peace.
It’s not just in the media. The legislature will attack as well, sometimes in frivolous ways. In 2003, France refused to support the war in Iraq due to lack of verified proof of weapons of mass destruction. In retaliation for France’s demand for verification of WMD, the Republican Chairman of the House Committee on Administration, Bob Ney, changed the name French fries to Freedom fries on the menu item in three Congressional cafeterias. Walter B. Jones then directed the three House cafeterias to change all references to French fries and French toast on menus, and replace them with Freedom fries and Freedom toast. A wave of American restaurants followed the example.

While Americans ate Freedom food, Tulsi Gabbard went to war.
Gabbard’s opposition to unconstitutional warmongering and corruption has earned her a barrage of negative media and disinformation throughout her campaign. Fact verification is important in times of war and elections.

The cost of war is real. Gabbard is the only candidate talking about it.
The 2020 Democratic primary has vanished many candidates well ahead of the July nomination. It’s not just Gabbard. Seasoned representatives such as Michael Bennet and Jay Inslee were largely ignored by the DNC. Bennet remained in the race until February 11, 2020. There was little trace of his campaign in the public view.
Of all who lost their preferred candidate along the way, those who voted for Buttigieg, Klobuchar or Warren merit the most compassion. These voters loved their candidates the longest, they supported their candidates financially and gave energy to posting about his or her campaign for months- sometime arguing with friends, family, or strangers on behalf of this candidate. When election day arrived in their state, these voters proudly, happily cast their vote for the person they believed in most. They posted about it. These voters then watched for election results with great hope, soon after learning their choice was no longer in the running.
It isn’t a good feeling to have one’s carefully considered vote rendered meaningless. Voters wonder about the timing of the canceled campaigns. It seems orchestrated towards ensuring the DNC’s choice, not towards honoring the voice of voters.

The sudden end of the campaigns of Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Warren illustrates how the acceptance of corporate and Super Pac money compromises a candidate. All three candidates conducted robust campaigns then accepted to bow out when asked. It’s unlikely Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Warren feel Joe Biden is the best candidate to defeat Trump and lead the nation, but the DNC tells them this is their new position. Voters are asked to believe Biden is the best choice as well. Sadly, even Bernie Sanders is prepared to align with this idea.

Examples of why Biden is not the best option in the field of candidates are visible. Even if Biden’s record of service and voting wasn’t problematic, his recent outbursts towards voters, his misnaming the office he’s running for or the town he is standing in- these incidents are concerning. Biden isn’t the strongest candidate of the original 29. He’s not even the strongest of the final three, but according to the DNC, Joe’s the one to go toe to toe with Trump.

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(continued here (https://medium.com/@michele.delangeavl/the-silencing-of-tulsi-gabbard-is-bad-for-america-f3c3a34c822f)

onawah
16th March 2020, 19:34
Is it possible Tulsi could still run as a 3rd party candidate? She couldn't win, but she could at least expose more of what shenanigans both major parties are engaging in, and that could be helpful, at least. in making people more aware.

Pam
16th March 2020, 19:48
Is it possible Tulsi could still run as a 3rd party candidate? She couldn't win, but she could at least expose more of what shenanigans both major parties are engaging in, and that could be helpful, at least. in making people more aware.

She has stated repeatedly that she won't run as a 3rd party candidate. Maybe circumstances will change her mind?? Honestly, who could feel comfortable with Biden making decisions? That is just insane. Crap, he's lucky if he can remember his own name and what position he's running for.

onawah
16th March 2020, 21:53
Let's hope she will be convinced it's the right thing to do.
She would be even better if she just devotes herself to whistleblowing, though there are certainly a lot of dangers inherent in taking that on.
I think she has the fortitude.
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Delight
17th March 2020, 04:09
I just found this video....

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onawah
17th March 2020, 05:02
I very much doubt that Tulsi's idea of the government giving every American $1000 per month to get through the corona virus crisis has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
Not because it wouldn't be just, in view of what the government IS spending on, but because it would highlight what little safety net there actually is for most people in a crisis.

Delight
17th March 2020, 05:25
Maybe we need a major campaign to ask Tulsi Gabbard again to start the ProD(emocratic) Party

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Delight
19th March 2020, 04:08
I see Tulsi Gabbard in a beautiful simple white dress with ruby and blue sapphire necklace. For once her hair is swept up in a chignon. She looks so at ease and full of joy. The swearing in progresses and then FINALLY President Gabbard.....

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Franny
19th March 2020, 19:13
Received this in my email today from Tulsi Gabbard, I have supported her campaign, as she is the only candidate that makes any sense to me, and receive emails and notifications. She had a phone call 'Townhall Meeting' yesterday on cv19 along with the Lt Governor of Hawaii covering many of the topics in the above video in post #82.

I want you to hear this from me first. I owe you an incredible debt of gratitude for all you’ve done as the heart and soul of our people-powered campaign: Today, I’ve made the decision to suspend my campaign for the presidency.

Here’s why:

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Our nation is facing an unprecedented global crisis that highlights the inextricable bonds of humanity, and how foreign policy and domestic policy are inseparable. We are all in this together and we must all rise to meet this moment — in service to our country and our fellow man.

This is not the first time we have faced adversity together. And it will not be the last.

After the terrorist attack by al-Qaeda on our country on 9/11, we stood together as Americans, motivated to serve, marshaling our forces to defeat our common enemy. I and so many others enlisted in the military to do just that. Likewise today, as Americans and all of humanity, we face a common enemy. It is once again time, as Americans and as neighbors in this global community, that we stand together, and work hand in hand to defeat this new enemy — the coronavirus.

Throughout my life, and this campaign, my motivation has been to serve God, our country, and the American people as best I can. I feel that the best way I can be of service at this time is to continue to work for the health and wellbeing of the people of Hawaii and our country in Congress, and to stand ready to serve in uniform should the Hawaii National Guard be activated.

After Tuesday’s primary results, it is clear that Democratic Primary voters have chosen Vice President Joe Biden to be the person who will take on President Trump in the general election.

I know Vice President Biden and his wife and am grateful to have called his son Beau, who also served in the National Guard, a friend. Although I may not agree with the Vice President on every issue, I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people. I'm confident that he will lead our country guided by the spirit of aloha — respect and compassion — and thus help heal the divisiveness that has been tearing our country apart.

Today, I’m suspending my presidential campaign, and offering my full support to Vice President Joe Biden in his quest to bring our country together.

I will continue to advocate for a 21st century foreign policy. One based on mutual respect and cooperation instead of confrontation, where we as a community of nations can work together to overcome the challenges that our people face — preventing and stopping pandemics like the coronavirus now affecting all of us, tackling climate change, combatting terrorism, and removing the existential threat of nuclear war which hangs over all our heads. I will continue to do everything I can to help bring an end to the new Cold War and nuclear arms race, and end regime change wars, which are costing us trillions of dollars, so we can invest these precious resources in the needs of the American people — health care, rebuilding our infrastructure, education, and so much more.

I want to extend my best wishes to my friends Senator Bernie Sanders, his wife Jane, Nina Turner and their many supporters for the work they’ve done. I have a great appreciation for Senator Sanders’ love for our country and the American people and his sincere desire to improve the lives of all Americans.

To the many people across our country who dedicated their time, energy, and resources to my campaign, working tirelessly to get our message out, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I look forward to speaking to you more in the coming days about why I made this decision, and how we can continue to work together for our common cause.

Thank you for standing with me. I will always have your back.

With warmest aloha,

Tulsi

Delight
19th March 2020, 19:59
Received this in my email today from Tulsi Gabbard, I have supported her campaign, as she is the only candidate that makes any sense to me, and receive emails and notifications. She had a phone call 'Townhall Meeting' yesterday on cv19 along with the Lt Governor of Hawaii covering many of the topics in the above video in post #82.

I want you to hear this from me first. I owe you an incredible debt of gratitude for all you’ve done as the heart and soul of our people-powered campaign: Today, I’ve made the decision to suspend my campaign for the presidency.

Here’s why:

gDPcjLplCI0

Our nation is facing an unprecedented global crisis that highlights the inextricable bonds of humanity, and how foreign policy and domestic policy are inseparable. We are all in this together and we must all rise to meet this moment — in service to our country and our fellow man.

This is not the first time we have faced adversity together. And it will not be the last.

After the terrorist attack by al-Qaeda on our country on 9/11, we stood together as Americans, motivated to serve, marshaling our forces to defeat our common enemy. I and so many others enlisted in the military to do just that. Likewise today, as Americans and all of humanity, we face a common enemy. It is once again time, as Americans and as neighbors in this global community, that we stand together, and work hand in hand to defeat this new enemy — the coronavirus.

Throughout my life, and this campaign, my motivation has been to serve God, our country, and the American people as best I can. I feel that the best way I can be of service at this time is to continue to work for the health and wellbeing of the people of Hawaii and our country in Congress, and to stand ready to serve in uniform should the Hawaii National Guard be activated.

After Tuesday’s primary results, it is clear that Democratic Primary voters have chosen Vice President Joe Biden to be the person who will take on President Trump in the general election.

I know Vice President Biden and his wife and am grateful to have called his son Beau, who also served in the National Guard, a friend. Although I may not agree with the Vice President on every issue, I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people. I'm confident that he will lead our country guided by the spirit of aloha — respect and compassion — and thus help heal the divisiveness that has been tearing our country apart.

Today, I’m suspending my presidential campaign, and offering my full support to Vice President Joe Biden in his quest to bring our country together.

I will continue to advocate for a 21st century foreign policy. One based on mutual respect and cooperation instead of confrontation, where we as a community of nations can work together to overcome the challenges that our people face — preventing and stopping pandemics like the coronavirus now affecting all of us, tackling climate change, combatting terrorism, and removing the existential threat of nuclear war which hangs over all our heads. I will continue to do everything I can to help bring an end to the new Cold War and nuclear arms race, and end regime change wars, which are costing us trillions of dollars, so we can invest these precious resources in the needs of the American people — health care, rebuilding our infrastructure, education, and so much more.

I want to extend my best wishes to my friends Senator Bernie Sanders, his wife Jane, Nina Turner and their many supporters for the work they’ve done. I have a great appreciation for Senator Sanders’ love for our country and the American people and his sincere desire to improve the lives of all Americans.

To the many people across our country who dedicated their time, energy, and resources to my campaign, working tirelessly to get our message out, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I look forward to speaking to you more in the coming days about why I made this decision, and how we can continue to work together for our common cause.

Thank you for standing with me. I will always have your back.

With warmest aloha,

Tulsi

This breaks my heart but good on her and she will be less stressed surely.

Andre
20th March 2020, 06:33
Biden is no better or worse than Trump. Shame she's endorsing any of those idiots. Oh well, she is a politician after all.

Gracy
20th March 2020, 10:37
Although I may not agree with the Vice President on every issue, I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people. I'm confident that he will lead our country guided by the spirit of aloha — respect and compassion —

In the end, she played the typical D.C. kiss ass game. Bluch… :bad:

Very disappointing. She always said she would support the eventual nominee, and I get that that's fine, but she didn't have to take it that far. She has to darn well know what she said there is patently untrue, she may as well be saying it about her good friend Hillary Clinton to paraphrase Bernie ha ha.

bojancan
20th March 2020, 17:38
How if she was offered a Vice President position if she endorsed Biden?
This would seem to me at least a bit logical from her - even though still not really honourable...

Delight
20th March 2020, 19:12
Biden is no better or worse than Trump. Shame she's endorsing any of those idiots. Oh well, she is a politician after all.

I think she may be being deployed to the National Gaurd....

mountain_jim
21st August 2020, 12:48
https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1296629447492358147?s=20

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Gracy
21st August 2020, 13:02
https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1296629447492358147?s=20

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I think the democratic establishment would like people to forget that Tulsi Gabbard even exists, surely Kamala does.

Bill Ryan
21st August 2020, 13:10
https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1296629447492358147?s=20

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I think the democratic establishment would like people to forget that Tulsi Gabbard even exists, surely Kamala does.Yes. That's pretty amazing, and says a very great deal. She's just not one of 'them'. (And kudos to her, too. She's an intelligent, thinking, independent woman who I have a lot of respect for.)

mountain_jim
21st August 2020, 13:15
Yes. That's pretty amazing, and says a very great deal. She's just not one of 'them'. (And kudos to her, too. She's an intelligent, thinking, independent woman who I have a lot of respect for.)


I agree - this is the kind of leader I could support in the future - but the current Democratic Party national leadership would need a major cleansing for me to get that opportunity within that party.

Kryztian
28th November 2020, 03:46
Tulsi Gabbard Urges Donald Trump to Pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange

Representative Tulsi Gabbard has called on President Donald Trump to pardon National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower Edward Snowden and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange before he's set to leave office on January 20, 2021.

The Hawaii Democrat took to Twitter to highlight her own video message from October 6 and suggested that Trump use his presidential pardon power to grant clemency to the men, both of whom have been charged under the Espionage Act of 1917.

The president's recent pardon of former national security adviser and retired Lt. General Michael Flynn appears to have prompted Gabbard's comments. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI in 2017 but later sought to withdraw that plea.

Article continues here (https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-trump-pardon-edward-snowden-julian-assange-1550573).

onawah
4th January 2021, 00:02
The Deep State Isn’t a Partisan Issue
Guests: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and Rep. Thomas Massie
Ep 102
18,685 views•Premiered Dec 30, 2020
Free the People
20.9K subscribers

"Matt Kibbe is joined by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) to discuss their bipartisan bill to repeal the Patriot Act and enact major reforms to protect Americans’ privacy rights. The legislators from both parties recognize the need to safeguard against intelligence agencies that operate in secret without respect for the Fourth Amendment and other important constitutional protections that stand between us and tyranny."

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DeDukshyn
4th January 2021, 04:29
The Deep State Isn’t a Partisan Issue
Guests: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and Rep. Thomas Massie
Ep 102
18,685 views•Premiered Dec 30, 2020
Free the People
20.9K subscribers

"Matt Kibbe is joined by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) to discuss their bipartisan bill to repeal the Patriot Act and enact major reforms to protect Americans’ privacy rights. The legislators from both parties recognize the need to safeguard against intelligence agencies that operate in secret without respect for the Fourth Amendment and other important constitutional protections that stand between us and tyranny."

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This was excellent, I wish it had been longer. A shame she is quitting politics, but perhaps she can be even potent outside of politics -- I hope she continues her battle.

Franny
27th January 2021, 05:00
Tulsi Gabbard: Democrats are trying to turn America into a 'police state'

Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard discusses her viral video claiming that the United States and Democrat party are moving toward a police state. Don't know which video of hers is being referred to.

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For her "Talk Story with Tulsi Gabbard" website go here:
https://tulsi.locals.com

Talk story is Hawai'i speak for, let's get together and talk :)

DeDukshyn
27th January 2021, 06:10
Tulsi Gabbard: Democrats are trying to turn America into a 'police state'

Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard discusses her viral video claiming that the United States and Democrat party are moving toward a police state. Don't know which video of hers is being referred to.



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Grey Brain
27th January 2021, 06:15
The more I see of her, the more I like. You can't write her off over the CFR or the adjacent cultish aspect. Many rise in the club only to buck it eventually. Those are the type with the biggest chance to help the people - if the people rally behind them. That being said, she is young and could be playing the long game. 2024, if I was going to vote (never have, probably never will, by creed) it would be her. Acting is even easier if you are unaware... hard to tell what the truth is, but she is incredibly well spoken and seemingly well moraled.

I almost have a crush, hahaha

PurpleLama
27th January 2021, 14:20
I almost have a crush, hahaha

Get in line!

DeDukshyn
27th January 2021, 19:53
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Tulsi's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TulsiGabbard
Her Website: https://www.tulsigabbard.com/
Podcasts coming soon: https://www.tulsigabbard.com/podcast/

Now that she has quit politics, she might even become more effective and better heard ... in fact I think that's why she quit.

DeDukshyn
27th January 2021, 21:19
 
From back in October:

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onawah
29th January 2021, 06:58
Democrats Trying To Turn America Into Police State
22,112 views•1/28/21
RonPaulLibertyReport
277K subscribers

"Former US Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) has been sounding the alarm over new "domestic terrorism" legislation introduced by Adam Schiff (D-CA) and highly charged claims by former CIA director (a partisan Democrat) that "even libertarians" are potential "domestic terrorists." A police state is coming unless people like Brennan and Schiff are denounced by President Biden himself. Also, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) sounds the alarm: are National Guard troops in DC the next "forever war"?"
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DeDukshyn
2nd March 2021, 18:16
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Delight
4th March 2021, 02:56
Tulsi Gabbard has beautiful principles.

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Gracy
6th March 2021, 17:06
One of the precious few real journalists left out there, Aaron Maté of "The Grayzone" lays out the dirty little not so much of a secret that Tulsi Gabbard is brave enough to keep on pointing out.

What's going on in Syria is a shining example of how these sorts of atrocities are continued seamlessly through administration after administration:
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Mike
6th March 2021, 19:46
Hey Gracy thanks for exposing me to Aaron Mate. I like him already.

Good video here. Highly recommended. I did vote for Trump, but had Tulsi Gabbard been the Democratic candidate I would have voted for her instead. In a heartbeat. Without even thinking. She's remarkable. I hope she gets a shot at it again in the future.

DeDukshyn
25th April 2021, 18:08
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DeDukshyn
9th October 2021, 17:06
Attorney General Garland trying to intimidate Americans into silence

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ExomatrixTV
29th October 2021, 19:51
Gabbard Tells Us What The Establishment Elite Is Truly Afraid Of Us Saying:

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ExomatrixTV
7th November 2021, 03:06
Tulsi Gabbard: American people are continually disrespected:

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Bill Ryan
8th November 2021, 09:17
And another wonderful short interview with Tulsi. :sun:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ--MV21WAc

Bill Ryan
9th November 2021, 13:44
And another wonderful short interview with Tulsi. :sun:

And one more. Tulsi, nominally a "Democrat" (and it has to be possible she may not be for much longer!) is increasingly critical of Biden's party. If I were an American voter, and if she were on any electoral roll where I could vote, she'd have my full support ahead of absolutely anyone else.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sq54CDkSdA

Mike
9th November 2021, 13:58
I feel exactly the same as you Bill. I would have been thrilled to cast a vote for her had she been the Dems nominee.

I wish she'd switch allegiances and come to the "dark side":) She'll never get the Dem nomination. She's way too sane. But the Republicans would be thrilled to have her.

Kryztian
9th November 2021, 16:04
She'll never get the Dem nomination. She's way too sane. But the Republicans would be thrilled to have her.

Some of her political position (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard) would never, ever fly in the Republican party:


Single payer universal health care


Strong gun control laws


Federal funding for abortion
There is NO WAY anyone with her positions would get any where in the Republican party. It would be interesting if she did get the Democratic nomination, to see what FOX news would do for her, after some of their hosts have treated her so nicely because then their newscasters would then have the job of dismembering her like a pack of hungry piranhas.

Meanwhile, most CNN watching Democrats think she is a Putin/Trump supporting right winger who has desecrated their idol, Hillary Clinton.

A lot would have to change in the hearts and minds of most Democrats for her to get the nomination. And if things continue to be tumultuous, that could just happen.

Gracy
9th November 2021, 17:52
There is NO WAY anyone with her positions would get any where in the Republican party. It would be interesting if she did get the Democratic nomination, to see what FOX news would do for her, after some of their hosts have treated her so nicely because then their newscasters would then have the job of dismembering her like a pack of hungry piranhas.

Meanwhile, most CNN watching Democrats think she is a Putin/Trump supporting right winger who has desecrated their idol, Hillary Clinton.

She definitely finds herself stuck between two opposing narratives in the news presentation business.

It would be entertaining to watch FOX be forced to pivot back to the traditional republican good/democrat routine, because the only reason they're promoting her and someone like Jimmy Dore in the first place, is because they can be counted on to be critical of their fellow democrats.

But she'll never be allowed to even sniff being the democratic nominee, same as last go around, because true to form channels offering the competing narrative like CNN and MSNBC, would once again do their part to help ensure an establishment approved democrat gets the nod. She would still be "Putin Puppet".

We would see the old switcharoo if Tulsi started critiquing the republican party. FOX would suddenly drop her like a hot potato, and CNN would suddenly realize she's not so bad after all and start inviting her as a guest.

Funny how that works in the almighty ratings game of pleasing the demographic that lines your wallet.

And the wheels on the bus go round and round...

Mike
9th November 2021, 18:06
There is NO WAY anyone with her positions would get any where in the Republican party. It would be interesting if she did get the Democratic nomination, to see what FOX news would do for her, after some of their hosts have treated her so nicely because then their newscasters would then have the job of dismembering her like a pack of hungry piranhas.

Meanwhile, most CNN watching Democrats think she is a Putin/Trump supporting right winger who has desecrated their idol, Hillary Clinton.

She definitely finds herself stuck between two opposing narratives in the news presentation business.

It would be entertaining to watch FOX be forced to pivot back to the traditional republican good/democrat routine, because the only reason they're promoting her and someone like Jimmy Dore in the first place, is because they can be counted on to be critical of their fellow democrats.

But she'll never be allowed to even sniff being the democratic nominee, same as last go around, because true to form channels offering the competing narrative like CNN and MSNBC, would once again do their part to help ensure an establishment approved democrat gets the nod. She would still be "Putin Puppet".

We would see the old switcharoo if Tulsi started critiquing the republican party. FOX would suddenly drop her like a hot potato, and CNN would suddenly realize she's not so bad after all and start inviting her as a guest.

Funny how that works in the almighty ratings game of pleasing the demographic that lines your wallet.

And the wheels on the bus go round and round...




Yep, 100% true! All of it.

I'll admit to being amused by that sort of tactic...the tactic of having dem critical dems on FOX..because you can almost hear CNN and MSNBC gnashing their teeth in the distance lol, and it's practically orgasmic. Of course it's a pretty transparent and disingenous tactic, but I don't hold it against them too much. All the news channels do it, and FOX is so outnumbered on cable news that it might just be a strategy they feel they have to deploy to keep up.

I'll also admit to being ignorant of the points Chris brought up, i.e. Tulsi's gun control/abortion law etc ambitions. I'll need to look into those things.

DeDukshyn
9th November 2021, 22:10
I feel exactly the same as you Bill. I would have been thrilled to cast a vote for her had she been the Dems nominee.

I wish she'd switch allegiances and come to the "dark side":) She'll never get the Dem nomination. She's way too sane. But the Republicans would be thrilled to have her.

Switching from corruption group A to corruption group B is not what I wish for her. It would be pointless. We need to stop giving the two party structure relevance by somehow imagining eventually one side will eventually act in the peoples best interest. :)

Mike
9th November 2021, 23:19
I feel exactly the same as you Bill. I would have been thrilled to cast a vote for her had she been the Dems nominee.

I wish she'd switch allegiances and come to the "dark side":) She'll never get the Dem nomination. She's way too sane. But the Republicans would be thrilled to have her.

Switching from corruption group A to corruption group B is not what I wish for her. It would be pointless. We need to stop giving the two party structure relevance by somehow imagining eventually one side will eventually act in the peoples best interest. :)


Well I'd say that some degree of corruption exists pretty much everywhere but it doesn't make everything equally abhorrent and therefore useless.

In terms of their values, there is an enormous difference between the Republican and Democratic parties at the moment. And we don't really even have to guess which values are better or more desirable. They're rationally deriveable because we have loads of examples - both currently and historically - showing us exactly what happens when we embrace one set of values or the other. The Dems have been hijacked by "wokeness", which is a highly corrosive ideology that destroys everything it touches. That wokeness is a combination of marxism, postmodernism and critical theory. Taken separately those things can destroy entire civilizations; put them together and they can destroy the world.

Life is often an exercise of choosing "the lesser of the evils". Even if the Republican party is merely that, a lesser evil, then it would still be worthwhile for her to switch allegiances in my view. And btw, while it's true that I'm likely considered a conservative here, I am in no way what you might call a proper conservative. I'm for choice when it comes to abortion, for example. I value the 2nd amendment but I'm not too crazy about guns. The list goes on. So I'm no Republican cheerleader..it's just that they appear to be the only ones making any kind of sense at the moment.

DeDukshyn
9th November 2021, 23:58
Government has always been rife with corruption ... from Bush's illegal wars to make billions for a select few, to Biden's bull****.

I've stopped choosing evils, you should give it a try. :) She's better off not aligning politically, as is everyone.

Mike
10th November 2021, 01:00
Government has always been rife with corruption ... from Bush's illegal wars to make billions for a select few, to Biden's bull****.

I've stopped choosing evils, you should give it a try. :) She's better off not aligning politically, as is everyone.


If you're not choosing "evils" sometimes that means you're just not choosing at all!:) Life, in one way or another, in one arena or another, will always put you in those sorts of positions. But that might be another thread altogether

Government, like all heirarchies, can be prone to corruption. But you can't just get rid of heirarchies. You can't have a value system without a heirarchy. You can't have competence either. No government = total chaos. Too much government = tyranny. Balance is the key. It's exhausting and it takes loads of work, but it's the only game in town.

The word "politics" is really just another word for "values". So I think she should align herself politically. At the moment Tulsi is on the wrong team in my estimation.

Conservative values are classical liberal values. They are Enlightenment values. While it's true that a political party is only as good as it's leaders, at least conservative values give you a chance!

DeDukshyn
10th November 2021, 05:44
Government has always been rife with corruption ... from Bush's illegal wars to make billions for a select few, to Biden's bull****.

I've stopped choosing evils, you should give it a try. :) She's better off not aligning politically, as is everyone.


If you're not choosing "evils" sometimes that means you're just not choosing at all!:) Life, in one way or another, in one arena or another, will always put you in those sorts of positions. But that might be another thread altogether

Government, like all heirarchies, can be prone to corruption. But you can't just get rid of heirarchies. You can't have a value system without a heirarchy. You can't have competence either. No government = total chaos. Too much government = tyranny. Balance is the key. It's exhausting and it takes loads of work, but it's the only game in town.

The word "politics" is really just another word for "values". So I think she should align herself politically. At the moment Tulsi is on the wrong team in my estimation.

Conservative values are classical liberal values. They are Enlightenment values. While it's true that a political party is only as good as it's leaders, at least conservative values give you a chance!

The problem is believing we can only have "democracy" as we know it (which is a perversion of democracy), or "Communism" as we know it, or "capitalism" as we know it, etc. So we are led and programmed to believe that the options presented are actually what our options are. You sound defeated. My interjection is that it is the system itself that is broken ... not one party or another necessarily, but because of the systems brokenness the "fixing" can't happen while the system functions.

We're off topic here though ... but its an interesting topic to explore. Someone on here should do podcasts, and then have members as guests for discussions and debates and interviews ... you might make a good host Mike ... :)

Mike
10th November 2021, 06:27
Government has always been rife with corruption ... from Bush's illegal wars to make billions for a select few, to Biden's bull****.

I've stopped choosing evils, you should give it a try. :) She's better off not aligning politically, as is everyone.


If you're not choosing "evils" sometimes that means you're just not choosing at all!:) Life, in one way or another, in one arena or another, will always put you in those sorts of positions. But that might be another thread altogether

Government, like all heirarchies, can be prone to corruption. But you can't just get rid of heirarchies. You can't have a value system without a heirarchy. You can't have competence either. No government = total chaos. Too much government = tyranny. Balance is the key. It's exhausting and it takes loads of work, but it's the only game in town.

The word "politics" is really just another word for "values". So I think she should align herself politically. At the moment Tulsi is on the wrong team in my estimation.

Conservative values are classical liberal values. They are Enlightenment values. While it's true that a political party is only as good as it's leaders, at least conservative values give you a chance!

The problem is believing we can only have "democracy" as we know it (which is a perversion of democracy), or "Communism" as we know it, or "capitalism" as we know it, etc. So we are led and programmed to believe that the options presented are actually what our options are. You sound defeated. My interjection is that it is the system itself that is broken ... not one party or another necessarily, but because of the systems brokenness the "fixing" can't happen while the system functions.

We're off topic here though ... but its an interesting topic to explore. Someone on here should do podcasts, and then have members as guests for discussions and debates and interviews ... you might make a good host Mike ... :)



I don't feel defeated lol! I think the systems work pretty good. You're the one who thinks they're broken:)

If you tore it all down today and began rebuilding it, over time it would begin to resemble what we have currently. It would quickly become apparent that some people are better at certain things than others, and among those people some would be better and smarter than the rest, and some would work harder etc, and natural heirarchies would begin to form. And once they began to grow, they'd require structure to prevent chaos. And then goverment would form. And those that were better and smarter and harder working than the others would demand (rightfully) to be compensated more, and something resembling capitalism would emerge. And so on..

The systems only seem broken because we've grown so used to them and what they produce that we take all the wonderful things they've given us for granted. It's quite hip to bash "the system". Those that do are generally very willing to attribute all our problems to the "system" but act as though all the miracles it's produced just happened by accident!:)

Life is pretty good actually. It's never been better, historically speaking. Our systems - or organizing structures, or whatever wishes to call them - here in the west are quite sound. People are corrupt, not the systems we have here in the west. Systems will always be imperfect, and the power hungry sociopaths among us will always exploit that imperfection. It doesn't matter which systems you have in place, they'll find a way.

The podcast thing has been presented to me by quite a few people, but I'm lucky that i can even turn on my computer. Setting all that up is just beyond me. But it does sound like fun! I'd have you on first Mike, and neither of us would be able to stop till we got the last word ("..and another thing!.."):)

DeDukshyn
10th November 2021, 22:48
Government has always been rife with corruption ... from Bush's illegal wars to make billions for a select few, to Biden's bull****.

I've stopped choosing evils, you should give it a try. :) She's better off not aligning politically, as is everyone.


If you're not choosing "evils" sometimes that means you're just not choosing at all!:) Life, in one way or another, in one arena or another, will always put you in those sorts of positions. But that might be another thread altogether

Government, like all heirarchies, can be prone to corruption. But you can't just get rid of heirarchies. You can't have a value system without a heirarchy. You can't have competence either. No government = total chaos. Too much government = tyranny. Balance is the key. It's exhausting and it takes loads of work, but it's the only game in town.

The word "politics" is really just another word for "values". So I think she should align herself politically. At the moment Tulsi is on the wrong team in my estimation.

Conservative values are classical liberal values. They are Enlightenment values. While it's true that a political party is only as good as it's leaders, at least conservative values give you a chance!

The problem is believing we can only have "democracy" as we know it (which is a perversion of democracy), or "Communism" as we know it, or "capitalism" as we know it, etc. So we are led and programmed to believe that the options presented are actually what our options are. You sound defeated. My interjection is that it is the system itself that is broken ... not one party or another necessarily, but because of the systems brokenness the "fixing" can't happen while the system functions.

We're off topic here though ... but its an interesting topic to explore. Someone on here should do podcasts, and then have members as guests for discussions and debates and interviews ... you might make a good host Mike ... :)



I don't feel defeated lol! I think the systems work pretty good. You're the one who thinks they're broken:)

Haha, I am definitely not the only one, and the chorus is growing much louder in this regard.




If you tore it all down today and began rebuilding it, over time it would begin to resemble what we have currently. It would quickly become apparent that some people are better at certain things than others, and among those people some would be better and smarter than the rest, and some would work harder etc, and natural heirarchies would begin to form. And once they began to grow, they'd require structure to prevent chaos.

It wouldn't have to resemble what we have currently - use your imagination. I worked as a process / systems engineer of sorts for many years, current political structure of democracy is broken. Of course some people are better at some things than others, that has nothing to do with a structure that rewards corruption and inequalities. Nothing at all. Perhaps you are confusing structure with content.




The systems only seem broken because we've grown so used to them and what they produce that we take all the wonderful things they've given us for granted. It's quite hip to bash "the system". Those that do are generally very willing to attribute all our problems to the "system" but act as though all the miracles it's produced just happened by accident!:)

It has become "hip" to bash the system for a few reasons: 1) People intuitively feel the system is broken, 2) some people have very elaborately described in detail how and why the system is broken, but it can't be relayed simply, so people revert to just saying it instead of describing it as they heard it, 3) some people are followers.



Life is pretty good actually. It's never been better, historically speaking. Our systems - or organizing structures, or whatever wishes to call them - here in the west are quite sound. People are corrupt, not the systems we have here in the west. Systems will always be imperfect, and the power hungry sociopaths among us will always exploit that imperfection. It doesn't matter which systems you have in place, they'll find a way.

You may not have noticed, but all our currents systems, political and economic, are near collapse. Hence the big boys club wants to control the "reset" so they can rebuild it the way they want, and that appears to be a one world communist style government. If the current systems had any robustness, we wouldn't be at this point. "Find a way" or "forced into a way" are not the same. There are systems that wish to come about naturally, inspired by nature and natural law, but they don't resemble anything we have been using for the most part.



The podcast thing has been presented to me by quite a few people, but I'm lucky that i can even turn on my computer. Setting all that up is just beyond me. But it does sound like fun! I'd have you on first Mike, and neither of us would be able to stop till we got the last word ("..and another thing!.."):)

It would be a many hour discussion I am sure :) but I trust no stone would be left unturned :)

Well someone has to start a podcast. That would be awesome to have an "Avalon podcast" I think. Maybe I could do it ... I'll give it some thought, but if we have any volunteers ... :)

If you have a few hours to burn this is interesting and touches on the topic. You no doubt have heard of Daniel Schmachtenberger by now, he has the ability to eloquently highlight the problems that are hidden in our current structures ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO1WVguNQAM

Mike
11th November 2021, 01:25
Mike, no, you use your imagination and explain to me what this new civilization will look like:) The onus is on you! You're the one who wants to tear it all down and start anew, not me.

Maybe it's some weird synch thing going on, but I've spoken to several people recently who are echo'ing what you're saying here. And what they all have in common, unfailingly, is an inability to describe what this new society will look like once we raze all our current systems. They just seem to think that if we get on the other side of this thing and equalize outcomes among everyone it will all work out thru communist magic or something.

Humans have toiled for hundreds of years to arrive at the systems we all enjoy today. I think a little gratitude is in order. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive to improve things - and I think that's a good conversation to have - but I don't think we should discard it all either.

There's a time and a place for intuition, but if you're tearing down one set of systems and replacing them with something entirely different, you better have a very clear idea of what you're trying to achieve and how you're going to achieve it. Listening to people like Daniel Schmachtenburger can be useful, but it's not useful to merely parrot his basic talking points without understanding how he arrived at them. It's sort of like saying, I know I'm right! Just go listen to this 2 hour Schmachenburger video, you'll see! It's hard to have a productive conversation that way. Besides, I want to know why you think the way you do, not why Schmachtenberger thinks the way he thinks.

And what exactly do you mean by "nature", and "natural law"?

AutumnW
11th November 2021, 02:40
I like Tulsi. I cringe at the idea that either major party in the U.S, currently, has the high ground and would argue further that no people have become more divided than Americans in the last half decade. And that puts the U.S. at high risk of civil war of some kind.

And it may appear to be a necessary cleansing ceremony based on 'values,' but it's really just a dumpster fire and those values are trash.They're not real. They have no substance. They're the saran wrapper on rotting meat, the half eaten hostess ho ho, the piles of newspaper used to line bird cages.

Civil insurrections end with dictatorships. The intellectual dark web can yammer on all day long, splitting hairs and infinitives, but in the end it's meaningless babble while we wait for the inevitable.

DeDukshyn
11th November 2021, 02:56
Mike, no, you use your imagination and explain to me what this new civilization will look like:) The onus is on you! You're the one who wants to tear it all down and start anew, not me.

Maybe it's some weird synch thing going on, but I've spoken to several people recently who are echo'ing what you're saying here. And what they all have in common, unfailingly, is an inability to describe what this new society will look like once we raze all our current systems. They just seem to think that if we get on the other side of this thing and equalize outcomes among everyone it will all work out thru communist magic or something.

Humans have toiled for hundreds of years to arrive at the systems we all enjoy today. I think a little gratitude is in order. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive to improve things - and I think that's a good conversation to have - but I don't think we should discard it all either.

There's a time and a place for intuition, but if you're tearing down one set of systems and replacing them with something entirely different, you better have a very clear idea of what you're trying to achieve and how you're going to achieve it. Listening to people like Daniel Schmachtenburger can be useful, but it's not useful to merely parrot his basic talking points without understanding how he arrived at them. It's sort of like saying, I know I'm right! Just go listen to this 2 hour Schmachenburger video, you'll see! It's hard to have a productive conversation that way. Besides, I want to know why you think the way you do, not why Schmachtenberger thinks the way he thinks.

And what exactly do you mean by "nature", and "natural law"?

Its obvious you have watched very little of Daniel Schmachtenberger, or your response would likely be very different. Consider that a problem, especially one that doesn't have great visibility, well explained, is half solved. Not wanting or willing to see the problem is called willful ignorance.

Like I said, its not something simple that can be easily relayed, particularly on a a thread where this discussion is off topic. :) I got into this with Mashika once, and I highlighted, breifly, some of what this might look like, but I don't have all the details worked out, but it certainly is imaginable at a higher level.

If you have a nuclear reactor, that is about to meltdown ... do you hesitate to attempt to stop that reaction until you have built a new reactor that is not susceptible to the same problem? Do you ignore the problems until you have a new design that is more robust? Or do you even understand the initial cause of the problem in enough detail before you begin tearing down the old one? Often not.

I'm not trying to build a new world. My statement, and the initial argument is that the current governmental and economic systems are broken. That is what you argued against. :)

Mike
11th November 2021, 03:23
I like Tulsi. I cringe at the idea that either major party in the U.S, currently, has the high ground and would argue further that no people have become more divided than Americans in the last half decade. And that puts the U.S. at high risk of civil war of some kind.

And it may appear to be a necessary cleansing ceremony based on 'values,' but it's really just a dumpster fire and those values are trash.They're not real. They have no substance. They're the saran wrapper on rotting meat, the half eaten hostess ho ho, the piles of newspaper used to line bird cages.

Civil insurrections end with dictatorships. The intellectual dark web can yammer on all day long, splitting hairs and infinitives, but in the end it's meaningless babble while we wait for the inevitable.


Jess you don't post here in ages but you return to disagree with me?? I don't know if I should be honored or annoyed with you:ROFL:

Not sure if you're following the goings on here lately (and I wouldn't expect you to! I can't honestly say I have any idea what's going on in Canada) but the people of Virginia and New Jersey and all around the country made a huge statement in our recent elections. They rejected Critical Race Theory. They rejected mask mandates. They turned out in droves to vote for their values. If not their values, then what?? Do you think they waited in lines for hours just for fun?

Classical liberalism/enlightenment values vs radical wokeness? Come on. Easy one there.

Mike's right about one thing actually: we have drifted way off topic here. Happy to continue in another thread, but I'll stop butchering this one. Sorry Delight.

AutumnW
11th November 2021, 03:57
Oh Mike, Dude, No. I am talking about values in general and mentioned the IDW, just because I have been watching and reading a lot of that stuff lately. Most people's values are empty or incomplete when you examine them closely. All hat, no cattle, a string of slogans, religious endearments, tribal affinity etc...the flag, Mom, apple pie.

And then you have the extreme Woke idiots who will, no doubt, suffer the backlash of their lives and hopefully soon. I still can't quite believe some of the things I read about them, it all seems so berserk. Talk about a void of values. It's all show, its' exclusive in nature and highly authoritarian. And corporations cater to it and governments do, to a degree....but that, imo, is going to change.

As far as Virginia goes, McCauliffe deserved to be beaten, imho. He is a former head of the Democratic National Committee, the very same guy who grabbed the wheel of the ship and decided to cater to large corporations for donations, rather than relying on unions and small donors. This utterly changed the Dem party, turning it into the other party of the rich. He was defeated by his own policies.

Anyway, I don't hold out much hope for this ending in anything other than civil war. I don't think there is any other way out of it. And part of it is just that people are so angry with each other, they truly want to beat the **** out of each other.

AutumnW
11th November 2021, 06:43
Not sure if you're following the goings on here lately (and I wouldn't expect you to! I can't honestly say I have any idea what's going on in Canada) but the people of Virginia and New Jersey and all around the country made a huge statement in our recent elections. They rejected Critical Race Theory. They rejected mask mandates. They turned out in droves to vote for their values. If not their values, then what?? Do you think they waited in lines for hours just for fun? --Mike

Mike, I was commenting not so much on the sincerity of those values, but of the emptiness or half baked nature of them, in many cases. Most people have values that don't go particularly deep and aren't particularly well examined. They claim to be awake when they have just awoken from one dream and into another one. I appreciate the suffering that has driven people to vote the way they have. I can also see, from an outsider's perspective just how rampant propaganda is in the U.S. and how susceptible people are to it. It's human nature, in part, but its also a feature of a society that is constantly in a state of fear. And that fear is monetized.

Mike
11th November 2021, 06:56
Not sure if you're following the goings on here lately (and I wouldn't expect you to! I can't honestly say I have any idea what's going on in Canada) but the people of Virginia and New Jersey and all around the country made a huge statement in our recent elections. They rejected Critical Race Theory. They rejected mask mandates. They turned out in droves to vote for their values. If not their values, then what?? Do you think they waited in lines for hours just for fun? --Mike

Mike, I was commenting not so much on the sincerity of those values, but of the emptiness or half baked nature of them, in many cases. Most people have values that don't go particularly deep and aren't particularly well examined. They claim to be awake when they have just awoken from one dream and into another one. I appreciate the suffering that has driven people to vote the way they have. I can also see, from an outsider's perspective just how rampant propaganda is in the U.S. and how susceptible people are to it. It's human nature, in part, but its also a feature of a society that is constantly in a state of fear. And that fear is monetized.


You win! I give up!:bigsmile: I see what you're sayin now..

It's nice to see you posting here again:flower:

ExomatrixTV
25th November 2021, 20:48
Build Back Better bill is going to make it worse:

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Delight
26th November 2021, 01:30
Humans have toiled for hundreds of years to arrive at the systems we all enjoy today. I think a little gratitude is in order. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive to improve things - and I think that's a good conversation to have - but I don't think we should discard it all either.

There's a time and a place for intuition, but if you're tearing down one set of systems and replacing them with something entirely different, you better have a very clear idea of what you're trying to achieve and how you're going to achieve it.

I agree with you. Lots of what has been created was not wrong. However, I observe that "potentially good systems" have MOSTLY imploded due to poisoning. MURDERERS are HELL bent on wrecking EVERYTHING.

I now recognize that (IMO) that every bit of progress is deliberately sabotaged. The sheer magnitude makes it hard to accept.

When I was a teenager, I was actively a pacifist and I still think WAR is the cause of the problems. People believe we must have war and IMO that is the delusion allowing our downfall.

When I was first involved, I understood that the medical system was set up to keep people ill. As a young student in college, I already knew that cutting down the forests destroys the lungs of the world. I loved feminism to mean that every one should be able to seek a destiny beyond gender "roles". I loved to talk philosophy.

By applying new information and sense, I felt we were actually about to break into the "clear" where we would have an amazing world. It just never seemed possible that the plan was there to "murder" civilization.

These days philosophy feels pointless. It has all IMO already been said.

It is very very sad for me that I believe I see the world being DELIBERATELY destroyed but others cannot see it. Lots of people seem to be DOING something to try to intervene. I feel David Martin is my role model today. I don't see Tulsi doing anything much. I feel sad about our prospects but hey, the good news is I am 66 and have no kids.

Gracy
26th November 2021, 02:31
So this is getting interesting.



I now recognize that (IMO) that every bit of progress is deliberately sabotaged. The sheer magnitude makes it hard to accept.

I agree Delight, in spades as a matter of fact. I've said it before and I'll say it again, all I keep "seeing" is one long protracted campaign to keep us ever the more hopelessly divided, no matter how much good will may be happening on the ground at any given point in time.

There's always "the other" that's "the problem", that from whatever perspective needs to be shut down at the cost of everything else. For the good of all of course.


These days philosophy feels pointless. It has all IMO already been said.

Yep. It seems ancient philosophical wisdom is almost irrelevant these days, we're being herded into cooped up in little silos of my politician vs. your politician, and my talking head vs. your talking head. It's getting increasingly hard to just hash things out with those of differing opinions.

Philosophy doesn't seem to even matter any more, only things like the never ending culture wars matter, which will never, ever, be allowed to be settled in a peaceful matter between opposing participants of good will.


It is very very sad for me that I believe I see the world being DELIBERATELY destroyed but others cannot see it. Lots of people seem to be DOING something to try to intervene. I feel David Martin is my role model today. I don't see Tulsi doing anything much.

I'm really starting to lose faith in Tulsi. She really impressed me when first bursting upon the political scene, I had already lost all hope and she rekindled it a bit. Maybe there is some hope after all?

But since then I've watched her slowly but surely starting to morph back into your average old politician. At first she championed "Medicare For All" for instance, but that soon changed according to the political winds of " Medicare For All Who Want It".

Every American having access to free health care at the point of service is a big thumbs down on both sides of the aisle here, she learned that lesson quickly and moved on, artfully obscuring her path of reaching that political realization.

Tulsi, it's all or nothing sweety and you know that, you can't have it both ways, but you tried...

And now she's still anti war, but more sort of anti war, in an oblique sort of way, she's hedging her bets again IMO. We still have to beware of those radical Muslims (but not the Deep State), so we don't need to keep having boots on the ground wars against them, just really keep up with black ops and the drone wars.

Oh boy, isn't that nice and surgical. Not so much as we all should know good and well by now. But it sounds good for your average viewer.

I haven't even heard her mention in some time about the all pervasive U.S. sanctions and CIA led coup attempts against any country daring to not bend the knee to Empire, but it's possible I've missed it. If so someone please correct me, on any of this. :)

But she seems to be hedging her bets again.

So anyway, yeah, I've seen the occasional anti establishment firebrands come (I'll not mention any names), I've seen them go over time , and I'm washing my hands of it.

It's real easy to talk high and mighty while trying to make a name for one's self, which she and others have done to a point, but it's a whole different matter in backing it up where the rubber meets the road so to speak.

Sorry Tulsi, you're losing me...

ExomatrixTV
9th December 2021, 04:23
Tulsi Gabbard Blasts Political Leaders For Considering Nuclear Attack On Russia:

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PurpleLama
9th December 2021, 04:29
I am probably more suspicious of tulsi than gracy is, at this point. She says all the right things, and none of the wrong things. F her.

What was that Voltair quote?

DNA
9th December 2021, 11:05
I am probably more suspicious of tulsi than gracy is, at this point. She says all the right things, and none of the wrong things. F her.

What was that Voltair quote?

I haven't kept up with her lately.
I'm miffed about a few things as well. I'm miffed she retired.
That pissed me off.
I was pissed she didn't do more to point out the fake media.
I felt instead of just not participating in the Donald Trump impeachment she could have voiced her dissent and voted against impeaching him.
For all the anti-war rhetoric I hear from her I was disappointed she couldn't defend Trump while pointing out how he has refrained from further incursions.

She was awesome in single handedly destroying Kamila Harris presidential aspirations. :)

ExomatrixTV
9th December 2021, 13:46
Nobody** really knows what Tulsi experienced being in the spotlight ... maybe receiving all kinds of threads to her and/or her family ... most of us can have an easy talk/judgment being a "keyboard warrior"

**except a few who live close to/with her.

Gracy
9th December 2021, 17:22
Nobody** really knows what Tulsi experienced being in the spotlight ... maybe receiving all kinds of threads to her and/or her family ... most of us can have an easy talk/judgment being a "keyboard warrior"

**except a few who live close to/with her.

Well here’s the thing John. If we’re going to give Tulsi a pass like that, then it’s only fair and objective to give all politicians that benefit of a doubt, otherwise it’s just conveniently turning a blind eye towards politicians that we happen to like.

Chester
15th January 2022, 04:46
Nobody** really knows what Tulsi experienced being in the spotlight ... maybe receiving all kinds of threads to her and/or her family ... most of us can have an easy talk/judgment being a "keyboard warrior"

**except a few who live close to/with her.

Well here’s the thing John. If we’re going to give Tulsi a pass like that, then it’s only fair and objective to give all politicians that benefit of a doubt, otherwise it’s just conveniently turning a blind eye towards politicians that we happen to like.

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ExomatrixTV
21st January 2022, 17:24
Tulsi Gabbard Issues Dire Warning, ‘Destruction Of The World’ & ‘Life As We Know It Ends’:

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Frankie Pancakes
21st January 2022, 18:08
How Scared of November Are the Democrats? They Fear Populist Tulsi Gabbard

But something happened on the way to Gabbard’s ascension to the top of the U.S. political scene, her conscience got the better of her. I’ve followed Gabbard for years and watched her carefully, knowing full well about her past associations with Davos.

Now, for the New Statesman to run a schlocky piece about her as a GOP Dark Horse last week at a pivotal moment in the shifts in Congress against the Democrats’ domestic policy is telling of just how scared the Democrats and Davos are of the 2024 vote getting split along populist lines.

https://tomluongo.me/2022/01/19/how-scared-november-democrats-tulsi-gabbard/

ExomatrixTV
23rd January 2022, 22:56
Tulsi Gabbard: Washington Elites Are In The Pockets Of The Military Industrial Complex:

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mountain_jim
2nd February 2022, 12:48
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1488456541686534144?s=20&t=k9tIC1d2u5VCPNuMyZ4nKA

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mountain_jim
3rd February 2022, 14:02
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1489226107987582977?s=20&t=FqhQzBqZ007VOope42Byxg

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Alecs
3rd February 2022, 14:29
I may not be alone in thinking that Tulsi Gabbard's association with the WEForum remains an issue that I would hope she addresses publically and candidly so that saying "her consciousness got the better of her" can, in part, be better weighed. In light of current events, I will only opt to support (vote for) someone in that sphere of influence whose integrity, as well as courage, unmistakably matches that of the Constitution he/she is to protect.

Bill Ryan
3rd February 2022, 15:34
Tulsi Gabbard defends Joe Rogan, slamming censorship


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3IV3_Dw6U

Chester
3rd February 2022, 16:08
Tulsi Gabbard is a very bright person with ideas and sense IMO.

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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D–Hawaii)........ different from the other Democrats.

One difference is that she served in Iraq, and now pushes for ending wars. "We have to honor our servicemen and women by only sending them on missions that are worthy of their sacrifice," Gabbard tells Stossel.

Instead, American interventions are often open-ended. "There's seldom a discussion that I've heard about what is our mission," Stossel says.

"Exactly! That's exactly the problem…what is the clear, achievable goal?" Gabbard responds. She says her Afghanistan policy would have been: "Go in. Defeat Al-Qaeda. Get out."

Gabbard also says: talk with our enemies. She met with Syria's dictator. The media and other Democratic candidates give her grief for that.

CNN's Chris Cuomo lectured her: "You need to acknowledge that Bashar al-Assad is a murderous despot."

Kamala Harris called Gabbard an "Assad apologist."

"What's going on with your party?" Stossel asks Gabbard. "Democrats used to the antiwar party."

Gabbard responds that both parties are "heavily influenced by the foreign policy establishment…whose whole power base is built around continuing this status quo. So much so to the point where when I'm calling for an end to these wasteful wars, they're saying, 'well, gosh, Tulsi, why are you such an isolationist.' As though the only way that we can relate with other countries in the world is by bombing them, or by putting crippling economic sanctions in place."

Stossel also asks Gabbard about taking down a Democratic front-runner. In the fourth debate, she criticized Kamala Harris for her history of jailing people.

"She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana," Gabbard said in the debate.

That moment changed the race. Harris lead in the betting at ElectionBettingOdds.com, with a 26% chance of winning the nomination. During the debate, she fell seven points. 10 days later, another seven points.

"You killed her off," Stossel says.

"I'm for the people, man," Gabbard replies, laughing. "I was speaking the truth, and speaking for a lot of people."

Gabbard and Stossel argue, too. Like most democrats, Gabbard would spend billions on expensive new programs. She backs Medicare for All and free college.

"Don't you think colleges already waste a lot of money?" Stossel asks.

Gabbard agrees, "They do. Absolutely. Why is it costing more and more and more every single year?"

"Look how much more it will cost when it's free," says Stossel.

Gabbard responds, "We have to deal with…the root cause of the problem. One of which is…how much administrators of a lot of these colleges are being paid or overpaid."

Stossel and Gabbard also argue over her proposal for a $15 minimum wage.

"How does that not destroy opportunity for a 17-year-old in his first job who isn't worth $15 an hour?" Stossel asks.

"I think we're looking at this as an investment in people," Gabbard answers.

In the end, Stossel says, "I'm glad we could have a civil argument about some of these areas where we disagree. Few politicians want to do that anymore."

She adds: "Look, I love my country. You love our country. Let's come together as Americans with appreciation for our Constitution, our freedoms, civil liberties and rights, and have this civil discourse and dialogue about how we can move forward together."

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IMO - a winning ticket (if Trump gets the nomination in 2024) would be Trump/Gabbard. For him to get her on board, he would have to make unbreakable commitments to her or she would decline.

If somehow this came to be, I could see Gabbard easily becoming the next president after Trump.

Bill Ryan
12th February 2022, 21:01
Tulsi Gabbard joins Tucker Carlson at 4:27 in this latest piece about Ukraine, published last night (11 Feb) US time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12t9sBQR7Og

mountain_jim
21st February 2022, 15:24
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495762134403276801?s=20&t=P16iEqwYa7_f1LHVDxCvPw

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Bill Ryan
25th February 2022, 15:16
Tulsi Gabbard for President. (I'm serious.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5oPNjMZw4

Yoda
25th February 2022, 16:18
Tulsi Gabbard might still be answerable to Klaus Schwab.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Wikispooks_on_WEF_Young_Leaders2.png


https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495762134403276801?s=20&t=P16iEqwYa7_f1LHVDxCvPw

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Yoda
25th February 2022, 16:37
Tulsi Gabbard might still be answerable to Klaus Schwab.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Wikispooks_on_WEF_Young_Leaders2.png

In Canada, we woke up with the World Economic Forum controlling the prime minister, deputy prime minister, Justice minister, the Ontario prime minister, the mayor of Ottawa, the Ottawa chief of police. When the chief of police, and staff sargent resigned, they flew in the UN mercenaries to do the dirty work.

gini
27th February 2022, 06:23
Tulsi's CPAC full speech - Our freedom comes from God, not from any other person or government--26/2/22---25 minutes----EOJB_IUB5ko

mountain_jim
27th February 2022, 16:09
^ really worth listening to, in my view

Unless she's the most successfully programmed Manchurian candidate ever, I don't perceive any WEF puppet-strings at all - rather someone inclusive of all points of view, but intelligently focused and aware of what the US Constitution and Bill of Rights means for the US nation and how the trashing of that is in progress from current elites in power.

Was a well-designed and delivered speech in any case.

jaybee
27th February 2022, 17:28
^ really worth listening to, in my view

Unless she's the most successfully programmed Manchurian candidate ever, I don't perceive any WEF puppet-strings at all - rather someone inclusive of all points of view, but intelligently focused and aware of what the US Constitution and Bill of Rights means for the US nation and how the trashing of that is in progress from current elites in power.

Was a well-designed and delivered speech in any case.


Absolutely agree - I watched it earlier today and it was excellent - thanks to gini for posting...

Tulsi is very brave, intelligent and patriotic - I've said it before and I'll say it again... I think Tulsi was the only Democrat that could have won the election in 2020 WITHOUT cheating... but she is too independent minded for what the Globalist controlled Democratic Party want - Trump might have beat her but we'll never know because she was never going to be allowed to win the candidacy -

mountain_jim
27th February 2022, 19:27
I think she hinted in first minutes of her intro that she may be leaving that party sooner rather than later

ExomatrixTV
9th March 2022, 21:59
Tulsi Gabbard: They Want This to Continue:

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gini
15th March 2022, 17:24
MQYP6v4bBks--Tulsi Gabbard reacts to Romney accusing her of 'treasonous lies'--15/3/22--4.13 min

ExomatrixTV
19th March 2022, 22:58
Huge Argument Breaks Out With Tucker Carlson On Fox News! Must See Video!

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Former Hawaii congresswoman says her perspective on biolabs in Ukraine is backed up by facts on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'

mountain_jim
21st March 2022, 17:21
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1505845440159264770?s=20&t=SbOG2xBgy921-3a0mX3LFw

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https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1505483722660884482?s=20&t=SbOG2xBgy921-3a0mX3LFw

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Baby Steps
1st April 2022, 23:14
I thought to share the following as it got such a disruptive response from the AI that seems to mess with our posts on various other forums

Q: Was there anything President Joe Biden could have done differently to avoid a war breaking out in Ukraine?

A: Any active pro peace foreign policy could have avoided this .

This only happened because powerful people wanted it .

One proof of what I say is the endless warnings given by tulsi gabbard for years . She is not a psychic , an oracle or diviner . She is just someone who has some understanding of foreign policy and strategic realities .

Tulsi does not have the luxury of huge armies of well paid analysts . She is not a genius, she does not know everything .

By opposing western warmongering she has totally blown out of the water any idea that this war was unexpected , because she expected it . It has deliberately engineered . We need to start listening to the anti war advocates - it’s probably too late now anyway

Gwin Ru
3rd April 2022, 21:31
...

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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO4jyGRZ9Y)7:46 Now playing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO4jyGRZ9Y)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO4jyGRZ9Y) Tulsi Gabbard And Military Under UCMJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO4jyGRZ9Y)

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Catechism
3rd April 2022, 21:46
Politics is essentially pro wrestling , it has a stage, a crowd and combatants working for the same empresario

DeDukshyn
3rd April 2022, 23:34
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... oh, well...


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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO4jyGRZ9Y) Tulsi Gabbard And Military Under UCMJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO4jyGRZ9Y)

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Not sure this guy has actually been paying attention to Tulsi ... she has called out the US hypocrisy on Ukraine, the US funded biolabs, Biden administration, etc ... and even was smeared as a traitor and a Putin sympathizer that needed to be jailed by her own previous party that she used to be part of, for doing so. She is no longer a politician.

She may have been a WEF trainee ... but is she working for them still considering she is no longer even a politician? Is Bill Ryan still a Scientologist? Can people have had a past affiliation that is no longer valid ... ? Is Putin still a WEF stooge? Is Pierre Poilievre? Pierre was attacked and called a "conspiracy theorist" in parliament and by the media for suggesting that the WEF shouldn't be meddling in our country's affairs the way they are ... but he'd know what their intentions are ...

The thing I don't get is why everyone thinks they need to have a conclusion about who's right and who's wrong, what is right and what is wrong. The universe doesn't work like that ... is a symphony "right" or "wrong"? Are the musicians that don't play perfect the ones who are wrong? Is any player perfect and if not are the all wrong? Who decides where that cutoff is? Are the instruments wrong? Musicians can hit wrong notes, instruments can wear out and need repair, some players might not play well with the team, but to classify a symphony, or an orchestra, a player or an instrument into strict binary categories of "this is right ... this is wrong" isn't a particularly useful tool, nor is it ever accurate.

Franny
1st June 2022, 19:40
Roy Potter is impressed that Tulsi Gabbard has made a negative statement on the WEF 🤙🏽 It quickly descends into Christian doctrine but... quite interesting she did that.

I must say, I'm very impressed and pleased as well. I also noticed last summer she stopped urging people, especially kids and elderly, to get the jab. She must have been informed.

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https://twitter.com/RoystonPotter/status/1531646317457383424

mountain_jim
1st June 2022, 20:16
Former Presidential Candidate: 'we Must All Condemn The WEF's Great (Dystopian) Reset':

Former US Congressman Tulsi Gabbard has spoken out against the World Economic Forum's Great Reset. She calls on everyone to condemn the organization's totalitarian plans.

On Tuesday, Gabbard took to Twitter at Klaus Schwab's WEF, which envisions a world where people own nothing and are happy, while the technocratic elite takes control of everything.

While we struggle to pay for food and fuel, the elite gathered in Davos at the WEF to discuss how we should live our lives, the ex-presidential candidate wrote.

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to condemn

“We must all condemn their totalitarian dream of a so-called 'Great Reset' where people own nothing and are tracked/monitored everywhere,” she emphasized. In just a few hours, her tweet has been liked almost 50,000 times.

Gabbard is one of the few American politicians (https://thelibertydaily.com/tulsi-gabbard-becomes-first-democrat-to-speak-out-against-davos-the-world-economic-forum-and-the-great-reset/) to have spoken out openly against the Great Reset, which the Davos elite have been talking about almost continuously since the start of the corona pandemic in 2020.


To avoid

Most Democratic policymakers either embrace the Great Reset or are not speaking out about it. Most Republicans also avoid the subject, except for a few. Think Rand Paul or Thomas Massie.


The World Economic Forum took place last week in Davos, Switzerland. Prime Minister Rutte, Queen Maxima and Minister Kaag, among others, were present.


source (https://www.ninefornews.nl/oud-presidentskandidaat-we-moeten-de-great-reset-van-het-wef-met-zn-allen-veroordelen) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳


forwarding this post (highlights mine) to this thread as well

mountain_jim
29th June 2022, 20:22
not sure of when this talk and video was actually from.. (3 minutes)

RED-PILL: Tulsi Gabbard drops a MASSIVE TRUTH BOMB on the mainstream media

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Kryztian
15th July 2022, 18:47
World is nearing ‘brink’ of nuclear war – Tulsi Gabbard
Biden is escalating the Russia-Ukraine conflict, risking a catastrophic fight with Moscow, an ex-congresswoman has warned
https://www.rt.com/news/559016-gabbard-warns-of-us-russia-nuclear-war/

President Joe Biden’s administration is driving the world toward a devastating nuclear conflict by using the Ukraine crisis to fight a “proxy war” with Russia, former congresswoman and 2020 presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard has warned.

“The American people need to understand the seriousness of the situation that the Biden administration and leaders in Washington have put us in,” Gabbard said on Wednesday night in a Fox News interview. The Hawaii Democrat, who was among the candidates whom Biden defeated to win his party’s 2020 presidential nomination, called for stepping back to focus on “the big picture and the great threat that we face, which is the reality that this war is continuing to escalate.”

Biden has led the charge for international sanctions to punish Moscow over its military offensive in Ukraine. The US has approved $70 billion in aid, including advanced weaponry, to help Ukraine fight Russian forces. During a visit to Israel on Thursday, Biden said Washington will continue to provide such aid indefinitely to ensure that Moscow suffers “a strategic failure” in Ukraine.

“President Biden himself says he has no idea when or how it’s going to end, but we know where this escalation leads,” Gabbard said. “It leads us closer and closer to the brink of a nuclear war with Russia.”

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Biden’s anti-Russia campaign has contributed to the highest US inflation rate in more than 40 years, including record gasoline and diesel prices. Nevertheless, Democratic and Republican war hawks alike have backed the strategy. After voting to approve a $40 billion Ukraine aid package in May, US Representative Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) said, “Investing in the destruction of our adversary’s military, without losing a single American troop, strikes me as a good idea.”

Gabbard argued that US leaders are being cavalier about the crisis, ignoring the risk of triggering a catastrophic war with Russia. She gave the example of a recent public service announcement, or PSA, in New York City, which advised residents to stay indoors in the event of a nuclear attack.

“I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that PSA because it’s insane,” Gabbard said. “They’re treating us as though we’re like back in the ’50s and ’60s when teachers are telling kids to go under your desk and you’ll be protected from a nuclear attack. It’s crazy.”


The reality is, President Biden, members of Congress, leaders in our country, the wealthy, they will have a safe place to be in the event of a nuclear war that they are behind causing while the rest of us in America and Russia, people around the world, will be decimated from this event.

Gabbard claimed that US leaders were treating the risk of provoking a direct war with Russia “as if it’s nothing.” Meanwhile, she added, “they’ve been making plans on how they can continue to wage this war from an underground bunker. This is the seriousness of the threat that we face and how crazy and disturbing it is that President Biden and people in his administration can be so nonchalant about how they are the ones who are continuing to drive this forward.”

Critics of Gabbard, including legacy media outlets and 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, have accused her of being a Russian agent because of her criticisms of US policies. Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran who still serves as a lieutenant colonel in the US Army Reserves, has argued that she faces attacks for speaking the truth.

Biden’s current Middle East trip, which includes a stop in Saudi Arabia, “exposes what a complete farce his whole autocracy-versus-democracy foreign policy is,” Gabbard said. While claiming that the US must support Ukraine to “save democracy,” she added, the president will meet with autocratic dictators to seek their help in the anti-Russia campaign.

“It is a sham, it is a lie that the American people need to see straight through and hold leaders accountable for that lie and for the cost that they are bringing onto the American people and, frankly, to the world the further they escalate this war,” Gabbard said.

mountain_jim
23rd July 2022, 12:23
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1550796334185283584?s=20&t=fxTs2Z9ZgTwGCQBx1pFtCA

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mountain_jim
11th August 2022, 20:38
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1557684553573027845?s=20&t=TIXSrZCwdhzrAQjfSVhUWg

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/our-democracy-grave-danger-tulsi-gabbard-warns-democrats-are-coming-after-middle-class

Democrats Are "Coming After Middle-Class Hard-Working Americans" - Tulsi Gabbard Warns "Our Democracy Is In Grave Danger"

BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, AUG 11, 2022 - 03:25 PM
Tulsi Gabbard unleashes a torrent of facts in what most on the left in Washington would call 'conspiracy theory' and 'hate speech' pointing out the fact that everything from the IRS to the Department of Homeland Security is "blatantly being weaponized to target political opponents of those in power and anyone who dares to dissent or question or challenge their actions and policies."

< more at link >

ExomatrixTV
12th August 2022, 19:50
Scared Yet? Tulsi Gabbard Uses Basic Math to Show the IRS' Scary New Power:

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Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares a clip of Tulsi Gabbard talking to Fox News about why regular Americans should be worried about the Democrat’s plan for the IRS to hire 87,000 new agents. Will the Internal Revenue Service be targeting you next?

Bill Ryan
13th August 2022, 18:54
This came up on my YouTube recommendations. It was new to me, and as best I can see it's not been posted on the forum.

It's from Nov 2019, but it still applies now. If I was a US citizen, I'd totally want Tulsi as my President.

Watch the 8 minutes that has America searching Tulsi Gabbard


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRIGHcZkAI

TomKat
14th August 2022, 14:01
Gabbard was running for the Dem nomination so she had to attack Trump's "divisivenes." but in fact Trump was not very divisive, he just failed to choose his words carefuly and so was called a racist by the Dem media. Any deviation from the party line results in being called racist, as were the Canandian truckers.

Kryztian
17th August 2022, 03:28
I try not to get excited about politicians that tell me exactly what I want to hear, and Tulsi seems to be saying all the right things. But then again, I am trying to avoid the trap of being totally cynical, so I have to be open to the idea that she could be as good a politician as her words make her seem..

Here is another brand new politician, Liam Madden, who seems to have some of Tulsi's qualities.

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An ex-Marine, a liberal who won the Republican nomination in Vermont, a state where people are less likely to vote party line. He also chooses his words very carefully, for example at 4:10 in the video when he is asked the 9/11 truth question.

If Tulsi is checking out her thread here on Project Avalon (when her minders aren't looking), she might want to consider Liam as a VP for a bipartisan ticket in 2024! :sun:

mountain_jim
18th August 2022, 16:50
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-washington-elite-pose-greatest-threat-democracy

Tulsi Gabbard: Washington Elite Pose "Greatest Threat" To Democracy

BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, AUG 18, 2022 - 11:20 AM

Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) says that the greatest threat to democracy isn't Trump voters, or parents protesting at school board meetings - "but the permanent Washington elite which has weaponized the govt and teamed up with corporate media to intimidate and silence those who dare to disagree with them."

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"When you look at permanent Washington, you look at all the different hands that are involved," Gabbard said during a Wednesday appearance on Fox News. "And as we're seeing this whole situation play out over the last couple of weeks, we see very prominently placed is the national security state and the mainstream media. And you've outlined some of these changing narratives and new information when they see the old piece of information wasn't quite having the impact that they wanted."

"It's hard not to be skeptical when you look at their tactics and their timing to really question what their motives are. To leverage their power and their influence. To have an impact on these midterm elections that voters will be going to vote at in just a few weeks. And to do what they have already stated publicly is their objective, which is to prevent Donald Trump from running for president in 2024. This is not something new," she continued.

Watch:

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1560220066678837248?s=20&t=5R44VOU-CiCeQ0K0_7-Mqw

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mountain_jim
24th August 2022, 16:58
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1561672491096952832?s=20&t=xtUHgXqPu2p7KW37bb7vig

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gini
9th September 2022, 03:53
"Yesterday was Labor Day. But we haven’t heard a word from politicians about the struggles of hardworking Americans. This is not the time for celebration. It’s time for our leaders to take serious action to reduce inflation & stand up for the interests of the American people."Tulsi Gabbard 6/9/22--2 min-stJl2tfdPWk

Kryztian
14th September 2022, 19:11
I like Tulsi, and I don't expect my elected leaders to be 9/11 truthers (because their aren't any out of the closet 9/11 truthers of any consequence in politics), but I have to say if Islamic Jihadists are the biggest threat to her in the world to her, that is a problem.

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Arcturian108
14th September 2022, 19:14
I like Tulsi, and I don't expect my elected leaders to be 9/11 truthers (because their aren't any out of the closet 9/11 truthers of any consequence in politics), but I have to say if Islamic Jihadists are the biggest threat to her in the world to her, that is a problem.

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I always considered her to be controlled opposition. She never strayed far from what she felt the general public could handle on the subject of geopolitics.

Kryztian
14th September 2022, 19:24
I always considered her to be controlled opposition. She never strayed far from what she felt the general public could handle on the subject of geopolitics.

She's called out Hillary Clinton as a war criminal, as well as a lot of hypocritical politicians. I don't know of many politicians who have the hutzpah she does. Unlike Trump who might call use a phrase like "Crooked Hillary" and not explain why she deserves that moniker, she is very detail as to why she is criticizing these people. If she is "controlled opposition", then so is every other politician we discuss here on the forum (and that might just be the case. :sun:)

Bill Ryan
28th September 2022, 13:22
More wise words from Tulsi Gabbard, asked to comment by Tucker Carlson about the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines.

This is only 3 minutes in which Tulsi says, very correctly, that once "a few shots are fired" (a metaphor, my own paraphrase), things can easily spiral out of anyone's control.

It does seem to me that with the major current unknowns (such as who is responsible for the sabotage, which is an act of war arguably against Germany or the EU), almost anything could happen next.

What Tulsi does not say (but for me seems obvious) is that there's no risk of Russia 'retaliating' against the sabotage, as with both pipelines inactive anyway Russia has actually suffered no harm of any kind: physically, militarily or economically. Right now Russia is just a observer of this ongoing situation — which is all located in Europe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7HPG69vIas

mountain_jim
11th October 2022, 13:06
BREAKING: TulsiGabbard announces she’s leaving the Democrat Party Gabbard says the DNC is under the complete control of woke warmongers.



https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/117/719/091/playable/d78e5dfdc3be013c.mp4

thepainterdoug
11th October 2022, 14:24
THIS IS HUGE, just in public perception alone. Add this to the switch happening in Italy, new leader Georgia Milani , common sense a refuting of woke and cabal. People are stepping up! The paypal issue is spanking that company, it was actionable! People are taking action.
Just need Tulsi to refute W E Forum in which she is a graduate. Hey she can change her mind.

mountain_jim
11th October 2022, 14:53
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-abandons-elitist-woke-anti-white-democratic-party

Tulsi Gabbard Abandons 'Elitist, Woke, Anti-White' Democratic Party

TUESDAY, OCT 11, 2022 - 10:10 AM

While not entirely surprising, the reasons that former Democratic candidate for President, Tulsi Gabbard, reveals for her decision to leave the Democratic Party (https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1579788950696185859?s=20&t=cn4tZwf_eP9WGAqRUIz3Gw) should raise questions in all but the most-liberal of leftists...

I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are hostile to people of faith & spirituality, demonize the police & protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.

I believe in a government that is of, by, and for the people.

Unfortunately, today’s Democratic Party does not.

Instead, it stands for a government of, by, and for the powerful elite.

I’m calling on my fellow common sense independent-minded Democrats to join me in leaving the Democratic Party.

If you can no longer stomach the direction that so-called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, I invite you to join me.

Gabbard did not declare herself a Republican, despite sharing many of the views of the anti-interventionist, ‘America First’ wing of the GOP.

During her four terms in office from 2013 to 2021, Gabbard advocated dialogue with America’s rival superpowers, coupled with a hardline policy on Islamic terrorism. Failed 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton accused Gabbard in 2019 of being “a Russian asset,” likely referencing the Hawaiian lawmaker’s past praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s fight against terrorism in Syria.

While the Democratic Party has - with the backing of establishment Republicans - voted almost unanimously to send more than $52 billion to Ukraine in recent months, Gabbard has condemned Biden for “exploiting this war to strengthen NATO and feed the military-industrial complex.”

Does make one wonder if she is positioning herself for a VP seat on a DeSantis ticket in 2024?

Watch her full statement below:

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Delight
11th October 2022, 19:08
Does make one wonder if she is positioning herself for a VP seat on a DeSantis ticket in 2024?


This is the best thing I have ever hoped to happen in the political world. I will dream it being true.... not about perfection but about how to move forward as HUMANS.

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gini
12th October 2022, 02:06
Tulsi Gabbard on Ukraine and the Military Industrial Complex.--12/10/22--15 min.-rAfwpfUBw1M---Former presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard sits down with Tucker Carlson to explain her decision to leave the Democratic Party on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'---12/10/22--4 min---BPJzybRqMbg

Frankie Pancakes
12th October 2022, 11:52
reference to vid Posted above
Good article.

Who’s Afraid of Tulsi Gabbard? Everyone

https://tomluongo.me/2022/10/11/whos-afraid-of-tulsi-gabbard-everyone/

mountain_jim
12th October 2022, 12:44
reference to vid Posted above
Good article.

Who’s Afraid of Tulsi Gabbard? Everyone

https://tomluongo.me/2022/10/11/whos-afraid-of-tulsi-gabbard-everyone/

an excerpt




This is my primary point when it comes to Gabbard and her announcement this morning. The real psy-op isn’t that she’s some Klaus von Commie Schnitzel Triple Agent leading us like a pied piper to our own doom.

The real psy-op is that many can’t consider her as anything else BUT THAT.

If you doubt me, look on my Twitter feed this morning (https://twitter.com/TFL1728/status/1579799201403514880) after I pointed this exact thing out. Tulsi Gabbard triggers people because they can’t believe she walked up to the WEF mountain, was offered “the Precious!” and turned them down.

But that is exactly what it looks like she did.

This woman was the perfect Davos Trojan Horse. She was young, attractive, well-spoken.

She’s also a “woman of color” who joined the army after 9/11 to serve for patriotic reasons and, on top of all of this, a freaking Democrat!

Yahtzee!

When you look at the landscape for 2024 who do the Democrats have who aren’t completely loony tunes? Their rejection of her in 2020 was the big tell and it had nothing to do with the Clintons.

This was a woman who in 2016 after being ‘groomed’ for greatness resigned from the DNC over Hitlary’s corruption of the primaries at a moment in time everyone, and I mean EV-ER-Y-ONE, thought Hitlary would be the next president.

Even I didn’t believe my own arguments that Trump would win in May 2016.

Gabbard defied the most vindictive woman in US political circles. A woman with a presumed body count that measures in the dozens who was supposed to seal Davos’ deal to sell the US out to the globalists and their planned Great Reset.

That takes immense stones and speaks to a lot of personal integrity.

Now, you can construct some MI-6/John LeCarre narrative that she was just playing the long game for Klaus, but seriously folks, Occam’s Razor is almost always valid.

When she ran for President in 2020, was she promoted to be the one who would stand with Joe Biden? No. If she was Klaus’ girl she would have been.

She would have gotten more than 1 delegate. She wouldn’t have been given the Ron Paul treatment at the convention.

No, what she actually did was destroy the presidential ambitions of the woman-of-color who had been chosen, Kamala Harris.

And she did it without any DNC support whatsoever. She did it with almost no speaking time. It was the most effective political takedown in history save Ron Paul’s destruction of Rudy Guiliani in 2008.

To believe this narrative that Gabbard is a WEF Trojan Horse means you have to believe in a stage play so stupid and complicated it beggars belief. So, I ask everyone in the audience, if you are triggered by Tulsi Gabbard,
reflect on why that is and where those feelings come from.

Because they ain’t coming from her.


...


The Democrats really think they can win in 2024 by taking Trump out of the picture through lawfare and blaming the country’s ills on us not accepting their lunatic spending packages. Gavin Gruesome is clearly positioning himself for this role.

The fallback plan if Trump is invalidated would be DeSantis at the top of the ticket with someone else to soften the edges and bring the country together.

There is no one else in American politics poised to do just that than Tulsi Gabbard.

If you can’t see the script of Gabbard giving a unifying, edifying speech about healing the divisions and getting back to work at the GOP convention then I’ve taught you not one thing in five years about how screenwriting actually works.


For the ZH comments

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/whos-afraid-tulsi-gabbard-everyone

Bill Ryan
12th October 2022, 14:59
A great 10-minute piece by Tucker Carlson, 12 hours old. :thumbsup:

Tulsi Gabbard committed the unforgivable sin to the Democrats

(The 'sin' in this case was back in 2016, when Tulsi actually spoke to then President-elect Donald Trump about US Foreign Policy — because she cared a great deal about what was happening in Syria. After that, although she had been previously widely praised as a rising star, she was 'canceled' immediately by the Democrats.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKgueSM1SdM

mountain_jim
12th October 2022, 16:50
FFS you people are thick headed. She went to a conference, obviously rejected their bull**** and has been targeted for destruction by them for years.

Does this look like a WEF fan?



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a comment (https://gab.com/VinAmo/posts/109155951467327407)




Alan_Clarke
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@NeonRevolt Active Lt. Colonel in Civil Affairs, earned medals/badges without qualifying for them, former 5-yr-term CFR concurrent with current WEF Young Global Leader. She experienced war combat in the Tool "Vicarious" way, "from a good safe distance".
The question is... is she infiltrating the Military as a Globalist, or is she infiltrating the CFR/WEF as a Lt. Colonel? Her WEF page got wiped once she alerted us to the Ukraine Biolabs, so maybe that signaled a polarizing split from them...
Still pro-abortion, pro climate change, and a gun-grabber. She hasn't renounced her time with the CFR, WEF nor Klaus Schwab. She did renounce Trump, by voting for his impeachment (after a "whistleblower" stepped forward, regardless that he was CIA).

Bill Ryan
14th October 2022, 10:26
Tulsi Gabbard on Fox News, just 4 mins, half an hour ago. The video title says it all.

Our leaders are lying to us


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AD1Ub8IflU

jaybee
14th October 2022, 11:28
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Tulsi Gabbard is great - far too good and honest for the Globalist Elite billionaire class who are trying to control everything and everyone and want puppets that are dumb and compliant...

Re AOC... and the latest videos of her being heavily heckled about supporting war ... I have thought for a while that she is being groomed to be a Democrat President in the not too distant future and this is why she will not step out of line - the whole thing about being selected by a Party to represent that Party is that if they don't go along with the Party Line they will be deselected and got rid of pretty quickly.... so those who start off on the rebel progressive ticket are soon brought into line or they are OUT... lose their cushy job and wage and status...

Tulsi Gabbard seems very genuine to me and a 'proper' politician who cares about her Country and The People - if only there were lots more like her -

Mark (Star Mariner)
14th October 2022, 16:11
I really like Tulsi Gabbard, I think she'd make a great leader.

If anyone wants to check the recent podcast with Joe Rogan (the whole thing), I found it on Dailymotion.

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gini
14th October 2022, 17:33
Gabbard: I`m an independent, no plans to run .14/10/22--14 min--

Tulsi Gabbard announced this week she`s leaving the Democratic Party. The former Hawaii congresswoman joined "CUOMO" to explain her decision, saying she will, as an independent, "continue using whatever platform I have to bring common sense, truth and this voice for freedom."--yvxTPwV4xeg-Chris Cuomo hosts "CUOMO," a no-nonsense show featuring the day's most important news from all perspectives.

Mark (Star Mariner)
14th October 2022, 20:03
as an independent, "continue using whatever platform I have to bring common sense, truth and this voice for freedom."

From what I understand of the American political system you don't really get to 'bring' anything as an independent. It's a two horse race, and as an independent she won't be in it. If common sense, truth and freedom are her driving principles, her best bet might be to jump ship to the Republicans and run with them. Gabbard and DeSantis together, for example, could make some pretty powerful waves come 2024.

norman
14th October 2022, 20:45
as an independent, "continue using whatever platform I have to bring common sense, truth and this voice for freedom."

From what I understand of the American political system you don't really get to 'bring' anything as an independent. It's a two horse race, and as an independent she won't be in it. If common sense, truth and freedom are her driving principles, her best bet might be to jump ship to the Republicans and run with them. Gabbard and DeSantis together, for example, could make some pretty powerful waves come 2024.

Ask yourself, right now, with your brain fully powered up, where is Tulsi getting the bulk of her support from, I mean potential future voters. The radical Marxist(China) entrained commi left, or the rising sleepy eyed awakening alt patriot 'right' ?

If she runs as an independent, which voter group's votes are going to take the biggest dent ?

mountain_jim
19th October 2022, 20:15
(saw this from Jordan Sather telegram - do not know if source of article verified)

https://pamho.medium.com/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-world-economic-forum-the-whole-story-4fca2e9fbf7d

Tulsi Gabbard and The World Economic Forum — The Whole Story


After Tulsi Gabbard renounced her relationship with the Democratic Party yesterday on the Joe Rogan show — and on the first episode of her new podcast, I kept seeing a lot of people wondering about Tulsi Gabbard’s relationship with the World Economic Forum. That is because back in 2015 the WEF put a picture of Tulsi on their website while claiming she was one of their Young Global Leaders. Here is everything you need to know about the WEF, their Young Global Leaders, and what Tulsi Gabbard has to do with them.

Tulsi was informed that she had been chosen as a Young Global Leader (YGL) in 2015. Not really knowing much about them she then sent a tweet thanking them.

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That is commonly how people become a World Economic Forum YGL. They select people whom they believe can add some benefit to their organization and then email them telling them they have been selected. We know the process of what happens because a young popular politician like Tulsi Gabbard but from Canada, went through the process and then wrote about it. This is from MP Michelle Rempel Garner:

In January 2016 I woke up to an email with the subject, “You Have Been Selected as a Young Global Leader (YGL)”. I thought it was likely spam, but upon opening it I realized it was no joke. The YGL program is a big part of the broader WEF programming. Businessweek magazine described it as: “the most exclusive private social network in the world.” This is an overstatement; but members do include the likes of Sergei Brin, Ivanka Trump, Mark Zuckerberg, Amal Clooney and many of the top up-and-coming political leaders in the G20.

That is typically what happens. It happened to Tulsi Gabbard and also to Congressman Dan Crenshaw who explained how out of the blue he had been chosen with no contact before or since. MP Michelle Garner continues:

< more at link . including images of her tweets not appearing here for some reason>

Tulsi Gabbard was sent an email in 2015 saying she had been chosen as a Young Global Leader and she sent them a tweet saying she was honored. She never had anything to do with them before or since. But they also posted a picture of her on their website as advertising for their yearly shindig at Davos. The same thing happened to Dan Crenshaw. He never had anything to do with them but they posted a picture of him on their website because at the time he was a hot news topic. So it appears that the purpose of the YGL is to draw more rich people to their shindig by advertising that the rich can meet famous young people in the news. Some chosen as YGL go to Davos and mingle and give talks, others don’t.

After being bugged online over her picture being on the WEF website as a Young Global Leader, after telling people over and over on Twitter and Instagram that she had never gone to Davos and had nothing to do with the WEF, Tulsi asked the WEF to remove the picture of her from their promotional materials which she never consented to in the first place. And as the WEF became more well-known Tulsi had something to say about them:


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thepainterdoug
19th October 2022, 22:25
Mountain Jim/ thanks for this. im happy to finally hear an explanation. Thats a real lowlife practice by W E F , sort of like if I put a pic of Halley Berry on my F B friends wall.
Ohh you know Halley Berry? oh yeah, we have been out a few times. Wow!!!

T Smith
20th October 2022, 03:18
(saw this from Jordan Sather telegram - do not know if source of article verified)

https://pamho.medium.com/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-world-economic-forum-the-whole-story-4fca2e9fbf7d

Tulsi Gabbard and The World Economic Forum — The Whole Story


After Tulsi Gabbard renounced her relationship with the Democratic Party yesterday on the Joe Rogan show — and on the first episode of her new podcast, I kept seeing a lot of people wondering about Tulsi Gabbard’s relationship with the World Economic Forum. That is because back in 2015 the WEF put a picture of Tulsi on their website while claiming she was one of their Young Global Leaders. Here is everything you need to know about the WEF, their Young Global Leaders, and what Tulsi Gabbard has to do with them.

Tulsi was informed that she had been chosen as a Young Global Leader (YGL) in 2015. Not really knowing much about them she then sent a tweet thanking them.

https://miro.medium.com/max/1100/1*w2-e_r8_dFL3fKxVPtYVQw.jpeg

That is commonly how people become a World Economic Forum YGL. They select people whom they believe can add some benefit to their organization and then email them telling them they have been selected. We know the process of what happens because a young popular politician like Tulsi Gabbard but from Canada, went through the process and then wrote about it. This is from MP Michelle Rempel Garner:

In January 2016 I woke up to an email with the subject, “You Have Been Selected as a Young Global Leader (YGL)”. I thought it was likely spam, but upon opening it I realized it was no joke. The YGL program is a big part of the broader WEF programming. Businessweek magazine described it as: “the most exclusive private social network in the world.” This is an overstatement; but members do include the likes of Sergei Brin, Ivanka Trump, Mark Zuckerberg, Amal Clooney and many of the top up-and-coming political leaders in the G20.

That is typically what happens. It happened to Tulsi Gabbard and also to Congressman Dan Crenshaw who explained how out of the blue he had been chosen with no contact before or since. MP Michelle Garner continues:

< more at link . including images of her tweets not appearing here for some reason>

Tulsi Gabbard was sent an email in 2015 saying she had been chosen as a Young Global Leader and she sent them a tweet saying she was honored. She never had anything to do with them before or since. But they also posted a picture of her on their website as advertising for their yearly shindig at Davos. The same thing happened to Dan Crenshaw. He never had anything to do with them but they posted a picture of him on their website because at the time he was a hot news topic. So it appears that the purpose of the YGL is to draw more rich people to their shindig by advertising that the rich can meet famous young people in the news. Some chosen as YGL go to Davos and mingle and give talks, others don’t.

After being bugged online over her picture being on the WEF website as a Young Global Leader, after telling people over and over on Twitter and Instagram that she had never gone to Davos and had nothing to do with the WEF, Tulsi asked the WEF to remove the picture of her from their promotional materials which she never consented to in the first place. And as the WEF became more well-known Tulsi had something to say about them:


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There is absolutely nothing about Tulsi Gabbard that suggests to me she has anything whatsoever to do with the WEF. I'm all about skepticism and unveiling hidden motives, but at some point discernment and critical reasoning trump circumstantial information weaved together to portray a false narrative.

Tulsi Gabbard is the real deal; she is not a globalist, nor a shill. You can take that to the bank.

norman
20th October 2022, 04:52
Tulsi Gabbard is the real deal; she is not a globalist, nor a shill. You can take that to the bank.

I doubt I will live long enough to see you regret making that call, but of one thing I'm 99.999% certain, you will.

The WEF has little to do with it. The WEF assumed it was OK and cool to add her name to their virtual roster of players' names ( ask yourself why ). Seems she was even cool with that until being publicly on that roster became hot bad politics.

The WEF is only one node on one level of the enemy's system.

We're not quite there yet, but the whole game changes direction very soon, in the big agenda. New personalities are being prepared and lined up for the entry ramps into that new direction of philosophical hope.

The WEF is primarily attached to the old direction, and the 'need-to-know' principle applies there as much as anywhere else. Some big names in that group may not understand their near term fate, or didn't at the time they were making sweeping assumptions about what a big happy family the great white brotherhood is.

The enemy's system is a merciless system that has absolutely no loyalty to any of it's minions and 'useful idiots', not even it's useful billionaires. None. The plan serves the creator of the plan, only.

Bill Ryan
20th October 2022, 10:42
Tulsi Gabbard is the real deal; she is not a globalist, nor a shill. You can take that to the bank.I agree 100%. :thumbsup:

Starkey
26th October 2022, 20:25
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Here is a nice interview Tulsi had with Ron Paul. They talk about about the patriot act, being anti war, homeschooling, the IRS, Ron’s son Rand, among other things. It is really refreshing to see politicians talking with some common sense.

amor
26th October 2022, 22:16
Let me encapsulate the above interview. Two well-educated, good-hearted people who went up against others, who have been bought out by the Top-Down Corporate Murderers now ordered by NAZI GOLD against the HUMAN RACE. My dictate against THE CORRUPT POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT is that they end up with NOTHING BUT GOLD TO EAT AND DRINK while they FRY IN HELL. WAIT FOR IT!

ExomatrixTV
27th October 2022, 00:09
Our Civil Liberties Are Under Attack - With Ron Paul | The Tulsi Gabbard Show:

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Delight
2nd November 2022, 03:16
Two awesome people: Ron Paul and Tulsi Gabbard. Sorry about posting wrong video

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Delight
2nd November 2022, 19:27
2nd Amendment: Why our right "shall not be infringed" - with Steve Scalise | The Tulsi Gabbard Show

The Tulsi Gabbard Show

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Johnnycomelately
3rd November 2022, 02:32
Tulsi Gabbard: 2A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing??
63,639 views Nov 2, 2022

Guns & Gadgets
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziM4y6iUVMo

Delight
3rd November 2022, 13:12
Unless all those who are tearing Gabbard down are paid Bots and disinfo agents, I see some lack of discernment happening. People of strong hearts and minds may be imperfect but they ring like a bell. Liars and hypocrites ring like plastic. I don't know how those who lack intuition and ability to "hear" truthfulness can develop it? Without it, people will just flail around trusting AND Distrusting the WRONG people. The same kinds of people who disparage Gabbard think Trump is a savior. Tulsi Gabbard is not a world savior NOR are any of the people in the political sphere. However SOME feel it is a call to duty FOR their fellows. I am glad to be in the world with people who deeply care about the future for OUR children. The children are ALL ours despite who birthed them.

gini
13th November 2022, 07:46
Tulsi Gabbard: We have too many cowards in Washington.---Nov 11, 2022--9 min--
Former Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard joined 'Kennedy' to break down the midterm elections and what message voters sent to President Biden.--4bRSGUV9790

mountain_jim
15th November 2022, 00:17
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1592252355055001600?s=20&t=ynuzV0wgfgMES7GxkV8BUg

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DeDukshyn
15th November 2022, 02:04
Tulsi Gabbard is the real deal; she is not a globalist, nor a shill. You can take that to the bank.

I doubt I will live long enough to see you regret making that call, but of one thing I'm 99.999% certain, you will.

The WEF has little to do with it. The WEF assumed it was OK and cool to add her name to their virtual roster of players' names ( ask yourself why ). Seems she was even cool with that until being publicly on that roster became hot bad politics.

The WEF is only one node on one level of the enemy's system.

We're not quite there yet, but the whole game changes direction very soon, in the big agenda. New personalities are being prepared and lined up for the entry ramps into that new direction of philosophical hope.

The WEF is primarily attached to the old direction, and the 'need-to-know' principle applies there as much as anywhere else. Some big names in that group may not understand their near term fate, or didn't at the time they were making sweeping assumptions about what a big happy family the great white brotherhood is.

The enemy's system is a merciless system that has absolutely no loyalty to any of it's minions and 'useful idiots', not even it's useful billionaires. None. The plan serves the creator of the plan, only.


There's a Canadian conservative politician that explained how she ended up on the WEF's "Young Global Leaders" page and it has nothing to do with her being a member or a supporter of their club. The WEF's Young Global Leaders are chosen by the WEF - you do not apply for the position, they choose you.

She had received an email from Klaus explaining that she had been chosen as one of their YGL's and was invited to attend their gatherings. At the time she barely knew anything about the WEF and nothing about their YGL program, and she merely responded to that email with "Gee, thanks!" - not even knowing if it was a legitimate email or not.

And that is all it took to get her picture up on their YGL webpage. Pierre Poilievre has stated something similar, when his picture also showed up on their website. I believe both have been removed from their current YGL page.

mountain_jim
16th November 2022, 23:54
https://twitter.com/DavidBCollum/status/1593006958088716291?s=20&t=FqIHnzrJKf3z07BccnFrqA

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Delight
4th December 2022, 21:48
Tulsi Gabbard on The WEF, Elon Musk, Woke Politics & Her 2020 Presidential Campaign – Ask Dr. Drew
Nov 25, 2022

EPISODE DETAILS
Former Congresswoman, veteran, 2020 Presidential candidate, and host of new society & culture podcast “The Tulsi Gabbard Show” joins Dr. Drew for a LIVE conversation on censorship, cancel culture, integrity, and her future in politics.

“Republican or Democrat, I don’t care – just do your job,” says Tulsi Gabbard, a former Congresswoman who ran as a Democrat in the 2020 Presidential Election but later announced that she was leaving the party due to its anti-police and anti-religion rhetoric. Tulsi speaks widely on her opposition to “woke” medical authorities, her support of the 2nd Amendment, and how her former party is “now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness.”

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mountain_jim
13th December 2022, 23:59
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/you-believe-your-fuing-intel-briefers-tucker-carlson-went-ballistic-over-russian-agent

"You Believe Your Fu**ing Intel Briefers?" Tucker Carlson Went Ballistic Over 'Russian Agent' Accusations

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, DEC 13, 2022 - 06:25 PM

Fox News host Tucker Carlson went off on the US intelligence community during an appearance on former Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard's podcast. He also called Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer an "asshole" while discussing members of congress who are controlled by the intelligence community.

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Carlson recounted an incident where he wanted to interview Russian President Vladimir Putin before the Ukraine war, and reached out through a well-connected friend to do so. Carlson kept Fox and his producers in the dark, yet was given a 'tap on the shoulder' by one of his 'closest friends" who knew a high-up official at the National Security Agency.

After flying to Washington DC to meet in person, it was conveyed that the high-level NSA employee, who is a 'secret fan' of his show, knew that Carlson was "trying to get a Putin interview and go to Russia," adding "they have your emails and your texts, and they're going to leak them to the media to discredit you as a Putin lover."

Carlson then called a friend who is a US Senator, who told him that the US intelligence community accused him of being a Russian agent.

"Michael McFaul, who I would say is the leader of the neocons in the House... I got into an argument with him once last year on the phone. He told somebody that I was a Russian agent or something, and I was outraged," Tucker said, referring to the former US Ambassador to Russia under President Obama.

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Michael McFaul

"So I called him on the phone, and I used bad language. I was really mad. And he [McFoul] said 'whoa, whoa, whoa' - that's what the intel briefers told me, that you were working for Russia."

"That's what the intel briefers told you? You believe your ****ing intel briefers? Like, how old are you son? I'm from DC. My dad was in this world. Like, you're being manipulated by your intel briefers, DUH! And he's like 'well they had, you know, all kinds of corroborating evidence.'"


Carlson went on to discuss Sen. Chuck Schumer's (D-NY) statement that "You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you, so even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this," regarding former President Donald Trump.

"How could he say something like that?" Carlson said, adding "How could you, as the head Democrat in the Senate, accept a system where the people are not in charge? It is not a democracy. Unelected spy agencies are controlling the outcome of domestic politics, like, you’re ok with that?"

"That’s a dictatorship, asshole," Carlson added. "Like what do you think that is?"

"And I couldn’t have less regard for Chuck Schumer and I know him and he’s not stupid, he’s not stupid at all," Tucker continued. "He’s quite smart. So he’s never thought this through? He’s never thought it through? He has thought it through, and he accepts it as OK, and we should never accept something like that, ever."

Watch the entire interview below:

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Zirconian
28th January 2023, 16:08
Tulsi Gabbard on the Truth of President Zelensky


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A2Gmiya-Uk

Watch the full video on @RubinReport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abeuT...!

Good synopsis on Biden's commitment to Zelensky, (that is without due care to the American people) which could lead to an escalation of the war with possible nuclear retaliation.

ExomatrixTV
15th February 2023, 14:46
Tulsi Gabbard Makes Case For How Govt Agencies 'Are Being Weaponized Against Us' | Full Statement:

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ExomatrixTV
20th February 2023, 16:36
Crony Capitalism and Female Soldiers | Tulsi Gabbard:

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Dr Jordan B Peterson (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109903-Jordan-Peterson-Update) and Tulsi Gabbard discuss her time in the armed forces, the concerns over women serving, crony capitalism, the Republican party, and the proxy war the US is waging against Russia. Tulsi first served in elected office in the Hawaii State House of Representatives when she was 21 years old. Due to the attacks on 9/11, she enlisted in the Army National Guard. In 2004, she gave up an easy re-election campaign and volunteered to deploy to Iraq with the 29th Brigade Combat Team where she served in a medical unit. After returning home in 2006, Tulsi worked in the U.S. Senate as a legislative aide to the late Senator Danny Akaka, who was Chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee. She then volunteered for a second Middle East deployment as a Platoon Leader. Having experienced firsthand the true cost of war, Tulsi ran for United States Congress at age 31, vowing to honor the lives and sacrifice of her brothers and sisters in uniform. She prevailed in a difficult election and went on to serve in Congress for eight years as a member of the Armed Services, Homeland Security, and Foreign Affairs Committees. Foregoing a run for re-election to Congress, she ran as a Presidential candidate in the Democratic Party in 2020. Tulsi puts country before party and approaches every issue, domestic and foreign, based on ensuring the safety, security, and freedom of the American people.


0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=0s) Coming up
1:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=70s) Intro
3:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=225s) Starting out as a Democrat
7:16 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=436s) The Socialist tradition of Canada
9:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=550s) 911, enlisting, and the National Guard
13:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=790s) Fighting terrorism in Iraq
15:20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=920s) Corporate government collusion
18:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=1080s) Women in the armed forces
24:11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=1451s) Equity is not equality
24:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=1485s) The issue of women as POWs
27:55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=1675s) On the edge of global conflict
32:20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=1940s) Following Russia’s war
35:43 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=2143s) What does western victory look like?
40:26 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=2426s) The Treaty of Versailles, learning from history
44:07 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=2647s) We are fighting a proxy war
45:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=2750s) Biden blocking diplomacy?
48:04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=2884s) The military-industrial complex
49:44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=2984s) Republicans and crony capitalism
53:02 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=3182s) The freshman class, pressure to corrupt
56:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=3406s) Funding and frustration
1:03:37 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=3817s) The DNC: checking boxes and walking away
1:10:01 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=4201s) Hillary Clinton: a record of war
1:16:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=4606s) Positives in the Republican Party
1:18:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0vQ4Tq3ew&t=4715s) There is still promise in the system

ExomatrixTV
4th May 2023, 14:02
Tulsi Gabbard had Tucker Carlson on her show and praised him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKEWD4-nwyA) on so many levels ... I do respect Tulsi Gabbard but she has now a new contract with Fox News and I wonder if she is told NOT to discuss nor send any support to Tucker Carlson ... or she knows when to stay silent (possible self-censorship) ... in both cases it is really sad how things are going now with her.

Can anyone prove me wrong in my assessment?

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


Flashback: Dec 13, 2022 (4 months ago):


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0:00 - Intro / Who is Tucker Carlson?
5:23 - Interview with Tucker Carlson Begins
6:07 - Tulsi and Tucker talk about life being short
6:44 - People are trying to be god
10:55 - Tucker Carlson talks about how Journalism has evolved
14:38 - Tulsi and Tucker talk about the idea of Political Identity
23:30 - What people don't know about Hawaii
24:14 - Tulsi Gabbard talks about her 8 years in congress
27:31 - Tucker Carlson on Washington being corrupt
29:58 - Will the media ever be fixed?
33:12 - Tucker wanted to join the CIA
36:56 - Tucker on the NSA reading his texts
40:54 - Members of Congress are being controlled by Intel Agencies
45:53 - Mitt Romney calling Tulsi Gabbard a Treasonous Liar
48:43 - Criminals being treated as moral voices
50:43 - A big turning point / realization for Tucker Carlson
57:47 - Are leaders aware of the foundation of democracy crumbling?
1:02:20 - What is it that drives Tucker in spite of challenges?
1:09:24 - Wrapping up



twitter.com/TulsiGabbard (https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard) << nothing to be found about Tucker Carlson she is not even "defending" Fox News concerning Tucker.

mountain_jim
20th May 2023, 11:17
https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1659760723348852738?s=20

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ExomatrixTV
20th May 2023, 18:24
Tulsi Gabbard May 20th, 2023

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Bill Ryan
23rd May 2023, 00:42
She's right.

We are on the brink of nuclear war


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQE81clkqM

Satori
23rd May 2023, 01:33
She's right.

We are on the brink of nuclear war


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQE81clkqM

“It’s the same old story, it’s been said before. That’s all there is to it, and here’s some more.” Blaze Foley.

Listening to this, which includes important points she is making, makes me think of the above verse from a song by the late Blaze Foley. The song I believe is ”Big Cheeseburgers and Good French Fries”. (Look it up in your favorite search engine. I believe you will like it. Foley was a great poet in the form of a song writer, singer and guitar player. Sadly, he was murdered in 1988 or so.)

My point being: We hear the very same argument she is making from multiple sources. We think that’s it, everyone with a brain gets it. No one wins a nuclear war. But then we hear it again, with a twist—maybe. Yet, nothing is done to improve the situation. The nuclear threat lingers. And so on…

Sorry for digressing from the topic, somewhat.

ExomatrixTV
23rd May 2023, 12:13
"They Hold You Hostage!" - How The Establishment Controls Presidential Candidates:

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In this short clip, Patrick Bet-David, Tulsi Gabbard and Adam Sosnick discuss how the establishment controls presidential candidates.


FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on: minnect.com (https://minnect.com)
Watch the full podcast here (https://youtube.com/live/FGXVacT887E)

ExomatrixTV
16th June 2023, 14:37
Tulsi Gabbard on Trump's Indictment:

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Trump indictment undermines democracy because if a law is going to be enforced, it should be enforced equally and fairly across the board. The selective use of govt institutions and law enforcement to go after political or personal opponents undermines the very essence of the rule of law, which is the foundation for our democracy.


The Democratic Party's Rejection of Truth:

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Today’s Dem Party, MSM, & ‘woke’ activists are undermining families, stripping away parental rights, sexualizing our kids, mutilating/poisoning kids with “gender-affirming care,” and normalizing pedophilia and infanticide. We must stop this insanity before it’s too late.

ExomatrixTV
23rd July 2023, 22:12
Tulsi Gabbard CALLS OUT DEMS For Vilifying Cornel West, RFK JR Amid 2024 Race:

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave discuss Tulsi Gabbard's recent comments on the Democratic Party.

mountain_jim
4th August 2023, 20:17
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1687389809965441024?s=20

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A death rattle of any democracy is when a sitting president uses the state security apparatus to go after political opponents and cover up lies and crimes committed by himself or his family. Biden is doing that now. His actions make it clear he believes himself to be not the enforcer of the rule of law but the exception to it

ExomatrixTV
7th August 2023, 13:59
Tulsi: “Trump Indictment Is A Political Hit Job!”

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Former Congresswoman and Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard has spoken out against the Department of Justice's indictment of former President Donald Trump. Gabbard argues that the DOJ has become politicized and is merely doing the bidding of Democratic Party apparatchiks, who will do anything in their power to prevent Trump from running for President again.

Jimmy and The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula discuss Tulsi's break with Democratic Party orthodoxy over the Trump indictments.

mountain_jim
5th September 2023, 21:21
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1698984526918389836?s=20

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Kryztian
3rd November 2023, 17:53
Kim echoes my sentiments at the end of this video: "I really supported and was genuinely a champion of Tulsi and I am very disappointed ... disappointed a lot lately."

I have to agree. A lot of people liked DeSantis and then found out what a war mongerer and proponent of torture he was. Then there was RFK Jr., who displayed a lot of insight, sense and compassion but also turned out to support Israel's pogrom against the Palestinians. And now Tulsi Gabbard. I don't think we quite know for sure that she is Nikki Haley but there is still a lot of ambiguity there. (13 minutes)

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Bill Ryan
28th November 2023, 18:45
A video that's tough for me to post — and to listen to. But Tulsi's 180º change in position about Israel since 2019 seems all very real.

Tulsi Gabbard Turns on her Supporters AGAIN


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGOpKbjxh-Q

Bill Ryan
28th November 2023, 21:33
And re the above, a strong (though quite courteous) challenge from Max Blumenthal.

The text:
Tulsi, I’ve reported from inside Gaza and across the region, have done a documentary and 3 books about these issues. Please accept my invite to discuss political Islam at @TheGrayzoneNews (https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews), along with your sudden support for the most radically ethosupremacist govt in Israel’s history. You know me, your staff knows me, and yet you’ve never accepted an interview request. I think now is the time to demonstrate what you know before our respective audiences. Don’t bow out like @RobertKennedyJr (https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr) did.

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1729203376259215493
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Arcturian108
29th November 2023, 01:40
I don't know all the details of Tulsi's military career, but she is an American veteran who fought in Iraq, and thus has seen Muslim society up close. I don't believe she is supporting, or not supporting the current government of Israel. What she is supporting is the existence of the state of Israel, which is on life support because of the real threat that the U.S., will stop its support, and thus leave Israel with no other major power supporting it.

Kuperkai
29th November 2023, 07:36
Here is video from April of 2023 of activist/journalist Derrick Broze confronting Tulsi Gabbard about her connections to the WEF.

Tulsi Gabbard Questioned About WEF Young Global Leader Tweet- April 5, 2023 | The Conscious Resistance Network
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fwWaukFijTAC/

The video is VERY short- less than two minutes. Derrick's questions catch Tulsi off guard, and she really fumbles her answers. Tulsi has positioned herself as an independent maverick, yet she cannot answer a simple question about her relationship to the globalist institution that is leading the charge of the "Great Reset"? WOW!

When you watch the video, pay attention to her words and her body language.

As you might guess, I'm no longer a supporter of Tulsi Gabbard.

gini
9th January 2024, 06:12
18min--Sabby Sabs exposes Tulsi Gabbard , taking over MSM talking points and being no longer anti war..Ahm2r9LhQ4c

gini
9th January 2024, 18:23
CUw1vCAyg6Q--8 min---9/1/23-'TULSI FOR VP?!? Rumors Swirl That Gabbard May Join RFK JR TICKET'

mountain_jim
23rd February 2024, 12:56
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1760862233418985952?s=20

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Tulsi Gabbard Unloads on the Democratic Establishment and Defends Trump at CPAC

Will she be the VP pick?

“Our democracy is under attack. The perpetrators of this attack are those who, in the name of saving our democracy, are destroying it. I don’t use these words lightly. Every one of us who loves this country and who cherishes peace and freedom should be very alarmed by those who, driven by their insatiable hunger for power, are actively undermining all that we stand for.

“And almost every single day, if you’re paying attention to the news and the headlines, there is some new assault and some new attack. Now, it’s the Democrat elite and the swamp creatures in Washington who are doing all that they possibly can to keep us, the American people, from a very simple thing, having the freedom to choose who we want to be our next president. And it is clear through their actions they have no respect for us, and they have no respect for our rights as citizens of this democratic republic.

“They are so terrified that we may make what they think is the wrong choice that in the name of protecting democracy and saving us from ourselves, they’re actually destroying our democracy and taking away our freedom.

“Now, we look throughout history, and we can see many examples of evildoers who find some justification, who believe that they are doing the right thing. And so, today, we see the Democrat elite say with great concern in their voice, that if the American people elect Donald Trump, again, they warn us he will destroy our democracy. They say he will be the dictator in chief, that if he’s elected, it will be the last election this country sees.

“It’s laughable. It is so crazy. It’s laughable. But they’re justifying their actions by telling themselves that they need to destroy our democracy in order to save it. It’s lunacy, and it’s the mindset and mentality of dictators. They are waging a multi-front battle, and they will stop at nothing until they’re successful.

...

“The Democrat elite and their cronies, they’re using our criminal justice system to prosecute and distract the Republican presidential candidate in the midst of his campaign. As we know, Donald Trump currently faces 91 charges in four criminal cases, 44 on the federal side, 47 on the state side. All felonies.

“This most recent ruling in New York with the real estate case — charging him a $355,000,000 fine, plus nearly $100 million in interest for a business transaction where there was no victim or complaint, where all parties made money so egregious that even people who are not fans of Donald Trump are standing up and saying, this is crazy, and criticizing this judge’s decision that from the very beginning, has been a very clearly politically-motivated hit job.

“This is the truth. They’re hoping and doing all that they can, that they can convict Donald Trump of some crime, any crime, to try to undermine his support and therefore prevent what they fear most, a second Trump presidency. And there’s a reason why they’re so afraid of him. Because he poses a threat to this establishment, where they draw their power from.”

ExomatrixTV
23rd February 2024, 14:05
Tulsi Gabbard Defends Trump From Nikki Haley At CPAC As South Carolina Primary Nears:

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Tulsi Gabbard, a former Democratic Congresswoman turned independent, delivers remarks to CPAC 2024.

mountain_jim
5th March 2024, 20:19
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-resets-game-trumps-vice-president

The Supreme Court Resets The Game For Trump's Vice-President

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, MAR 05, 2024 - 02:50 PM
Authored by Tom Luongo via Gold, Goats, 'n Guns blog, (https://tomluongo.me/2024/03/04/supreme-court-clears-trump-vp-field-gabbard/)

Now that the Supreme Court has unanimously destroyed the dreams of Davos to use January 6th as a means to keep him off the ballot, Donald Trump has passed the easiest of the hurdles in front of his returning to the White House.

Some things, politically, in the US still function.

This ruling was a lay-up.

The SCOTUS had to rule decisively here.

Trump was never convicted of ‘insurrection.’ He was impeached and character-assassinated, sure, but none of that carries any weight of law. But, even if you somehow believe he was guilty of the crimes the Democrats accused him of, the facts of January 6th are so murky from that perspective, there was no way the SCOTUS could concoct a justification for his ballot disqualification.

At stake itself was the SCOTUS’ own validity as an institution. And if there is one thing I believe about organizations it is they always move to defend themselves if their leadership is honest.

Like it or not, the SCOTUS does not exist to enforce anyone’s opinion on reality. They exist to conclude whether an action is or is not constitutional.

Did Trump ever lead an armed insurrection against the government? No.

Did he question a questionable election? Yes.

Is that unconstitutional? No.

Case closed.

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But this case was an important first step to shut off the Nikki Haley insurgent strategy of handing delegates to her by default:

Take Trump off the ballot.

She’s now the only “Repuglican” left to vote for.

She gets to go to the convention with a bunch of unearned delegates to steal the election before November.

Oops. Now she gets further embarrassed on Super Tuesday.

Now the strategy backfires completely and he’s now Obi-Don Kenobi.

Unless somehow Jack Smith or the Fulton County Gang that Can’t Lie Straight put him in jail Trump is the GOP nominee.

So, now, how does Trump take this political resurrection and change the game completely?

With Biden’s disapproval rating reaching historic lows of 59% (6 out of 10 US votes HATE JOAH! Biii-Den!), the path to the White House for Trump goes through Vice-President Kamala Harris.

While conversations abound about subbing in Big Mike and/or Gavin Gruesome, the more likely threat from the DNC is Hillary, who is clearly angling back into the conversation as Biden falters.

But whoever Trump winds up running against, there is one person who Trump can leverage to drive even more people who hate him bat-**** crazy than he does.

And he knows who that is. So, as Primary Trump morphs, just like in 2016, into Candidate Trump, he will look to shore up his weaknesses.

Candidate Trump became a guy who preached bringing the US back from a dark place.

He ran on a populist platform that incorporated the Bernie Bros (remember them) as well as the tradesmen.

He broke the Democrats’ Trinity of Victimhood – Unions, Minorities, young people — that was their base and squeaked to victory over The Hildabeast.

If you think it’s Trump’s team or even US ‘white hats’ pushing out this stuff about Biden, you may be missing the obvious player, Hillary.

If there is one thing I know for certain about Trump it is that he’s a master of media. He knows exactly how and when to push everyone’s buttons.

For that reason (and many others) Trump’s only real choice for running mate is Tulsi Gabbard.

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At a minimum, right now, Trump is using Gabbard, bringing her into the VP conversation. She’s okay with this. She’s allowing herself to be used by him. It’s mutually beneficial.

I’m well on the record as being a Gabbard fan (some would say simp… whatever). It doesn’t matter whether you trust her or not. It’s not about you. It’s about perception. And, for better or worse, Gabbard has a now long track record of service to the country that is honest.

She was someone targeted from the beginning as someone the DNC could groom into shape. Young, attractive, woman of color, veteran. Boxes are ticking off left and right. And those are all attributes that she still has which Trump doesn’t.

When Hillary stole the 2016 primary from Bernie Sanders she resigned from the DNC.

This is a woman who crossed Hillary Clinton and, so far, has lived to tell the tale. No mean feat in the 21st century.

Long story short, Gabbard has stones. Some would call them principles, but that’s a stretch to ascribe those to any politician. She told Davos to go scratch. She told Hillary to slag-off.

And in 2024, she’s an ex-Democrat ,on Fox News, headlining at CPAC etc. Is she a stalking horse for the establishment? I don’t think so. Is she a grifter who just wants to trade up from the collection of dead-enders that are the current Democrats? Maybe.

Again, I don’t care about these things, because here’s the real story.

Trump needs to run as a real Unity candidate. He’s destroyed the GOPe’s (GOP establishment) gaggle of neocons. Now, he needs to seal the deal with the emerging Radical Center I discussed in a recent article (https://tomluongo.me/2024/02/05/the-great-reset-is-dead-long-live-the-great-reset/).

That {being for something better rather than against what is} becomes a decision point for a lot of people. It’s the moment when the established idea, brand, etc. wakes up to the threat and fights back. This is what the 16% chasm represents, that gulf between opposition and affirmation.

This is also what Davos and their ilk are truly exceptional at managing. They keep the Overton Window framed over irrelevant side issues to ensure that a new majority doesn’t “cross the 16% chasm,” by uniting over that better solution that doesn’t include them.

I’m calling this group they are afraid of, “The Radical Center.”

And every time I bring Gabbard up in the VP conversation I hear a whole lot of side issues discussed without actually addressing the core goals of how to save the country from collapsing into conflict.

So, allow me to make one of my lists of reasons why Trump has only one real choice for VP:


Former Democrat Congresswoman, veteran, former Trump critic.

Loudly rejected the Democrats for becoming something unrecognizable

Stood up to Hillary Clinton

She destroyed Kamala Harris in a DNC debate

Is fundamentally populist in most of her positions

Is NOT dogmatic about key issues, having shifted off previous positions on guns, abortion, etc.

Is not a warhawk, but rather supports Trump’s views on foreign policy

She’s a negotiator and a moderate.

She’s a patriot with a strong sense of honor and duty.

Ran a pure grassroots campaign for President in 2020, no outside donor support.


If you look at the totality of Gabbard’s record you see someone who is the opposite of Trump, but who winds up in the same place he did.

Politically, she is someone who neuters all of the Democrats’ screeching about Trump hating women, being a Nahtsi, and dog whistling for the alt-Right.

If he picks Gabbard as his running mate he neuters all of those narratives with normies, softens Trump’s bombast, while leaving the media and Davos with nothing but “he’s pandering” as their fall back position.

That will backfire on them hard and they will take the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

And, like her or not, Gabbard is no Sarah Palin for them to pick apart. She’s seasoned at this level of the game.

Lastly, she is Globalist/Neocon Insurance as Trump is more compromised on this front than she is. And when you run through the Senate right now, who can you point to that doesn’t have huge stalking-horse-for-globalist vibes? Rubio? Scott? Rick or Tim?

Go through the Senate of possible people to succeed Trump and give me a good name you can trust to survive even the transition period between November and January.

If you could then some of them would have already tried for the job during the primaries. None of them wanted the Ron DeSantis treatment.

Of all the options for Trump only Gabbard is the person who can reach out to voters that matter, the ones in swing states/counties who are looking for our politics to focus on country first and ideology second.

The fundamental problem with all of this is that Trump is not a hard-ass. He’s a deal-maker. Gabbard is a consensus-builder. We need a hard-ass. You go to war with the Generals you have and the army you’ve built, not the ones you want.

Trump isn’t the General for this war I want, he’s the one I’ve got. And if my alternative is Harris, Gruesome, or Hitlary, then I want Trump to have the best possible VP for the job. I don’t want Mike Pence 2.0, which is how I see any of the mannequins in the Senate.

Will Trump do this? I have no idea. Should he do it? I honestly don’t think he has a real choice.


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ZH top comments


Active duty war criminal
Israel-firster
Perfect! /s

Everyone "in the conversation" is Israel-first. That's why they're in the conversation.

Yup, Biden, Trump, RFK Jr all suck Israeli ****


Vivek complements Trump perfectly. Go watch Scott Adams analyze this and get back to us...

ExomatrixTV
21st March 2024, 15:28
Tulsi Gabbard Addresses Concerns of the Second Amendment:

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Tulsi Gabbard, despite growing up in Hawaii with restrictive gun laws, supports the Second Amendment.
Her military experience also involved strict firearm regulations, emphasizing safety measures.
Through interactions with Americans across the country, she realized concerns about "common sense" gun laws potentially infringing on Second Amendment rights.
Gabbard believes some politicians aim to dismantle the Second Amendment.
She sees the Second Amendment as a check against government tyranny, particularly critical given recent government actions during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Gabbard and her husband are gun owners and recently participated in the Tactical games, showing her personal commitment to gun rights.

mountain_jim
25th March 2024, 23:11
copying here


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1772382961637204458?s=20

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Ep. 84 Tulsi Gabbard could be the next vice president. Here’s what she believes.

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) March 25, 2024

jaybee
26th March 2024, 12:53
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The Tulsi Gabbard interview with Tucker (see post 243 above)......is very good and she would make a brilliant VP and also a future President maybe...

Her condemnation of the Democrat Party and self serving professional politicians like Mitt Romney (to mention one) is damning -

She uses the words.... 'woke warmongering elite' and politicians bending to their will....<-(my words) and how true that is, not just in America but across the Western World..... even the Conservative Party in the UK have become puppets for the 'woke, warmongering, elite' - the other big party, Labour, got there first but now...as in most other western nations - the woke, warmongering elite - call the tune for all main Parties - - I suppose the warmongering elite historically called the tune but now they have gone 'woke' it's a whole new ball game - well to be more accurate they are trying to force 'wokeness' on the 'peasants'...................... to save the world, of course <- /sarcasm..... :/

mountain_jim
26th March 2024, 14:09
an excerpt

https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1772453085362708805?s=20

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Clandestine
@WarClandestine
Eyes on 👀

Tulsi Gabbard brings up the US DoD funded biolabs in Ukraine with Tucker.

She speaks about the backlash she received from Mitt Romney and the MSM for the factual statements about US biological activity in Ukraine.

These two were arguably the most vocal public figures about the biolabs in Ukraine, and helped shift public perception on what the MSM claimed was a “conspiracy theory”.



https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1772485718566109410?s=20

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Wall Street Silver
@WallStreetSilv
"Unfortunately, the Democrat party has become a party that is undermining the very fabric of our country"

"Which is why ultimately I left the Democratic Party"

"The Biden-Harris administration and the Democrat elite across Washington are intentionally politicizing and weaponizing the tools of our own government, their friends in big tech and media"

"To take away our freedoms"

"To take away our right to free speech"

"To violate our privacy and civil liberties"

"They have become the party of war"

🚨🚨🚨

ExomatrixTV
31st March 2024, 15:01
Tucker STUNNED As Tulsi Gabbard Revels Who REALLY Runs America:

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As Tulsi Gabbard reveals to Tucker who REALLY runs the government, the Democrats prepare an “all-out war” on third parties and independent candidates.

ExomatrixTV
2nd April 2024, 20:10
Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex | Lex Fridman Podcast

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1:07 - War in Iraq
8:53 - Battle injuries and PTSD
16:03 - War on terrorism
24:44 - War in Gaza
28:45 - War in Ukraine
32:31 - Syria
40:13 - Warmongers
49:33 - Nuclear war
1:05:01 - TikTok ban
1:17:06 - Bernie Sanders
1:22:01 - Politics
1:40:52 - Personal attacks
1:43:01 - God

norman
3rd May 2024, 22:26
The Joe Rogan Experience - 2143 - Tulsi Gabbard (https://podbay.fm/p/the-joe-rogan-experience-5069/e/1714582800)
2 hour 44 minutes - Posted May 1

I have NOT listened to this. I'm only posting it because, last time I checked, she has keen fans here.

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norman
8th May 2024, 21:21
The book tour continues.

Mel K & Tulsi Gabbard | A Sacred Oath: For Love of Country | 5-7-24 (https://podbay.fm/p/the-mel-k-show/e/1715128306)
59 minutes - Posted May 8, 2024


https://rumble.com/v4ttwwc-mel-k-and-tulsi-gabbard-a-sacred-oath-for-love-of-country-5-7-24.html

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ExomatrixTV
17th May 2024, 23:38
Tulsi Calls Out The View Ladies To Their Faces!:

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Watch as Tulsi Gabbard calls out the panel of The View, who have no response to her truth bombs.