Snowden says US gov isn't hiding aliens

[Justplain]

Snowden says climate change is real and chemtrails are not. He says that the US gov has no contact with aliens. Would Richard Dolan agree? Is Snowden part of the 'controlled opposition'?


American whistleblower Edward Snowden said he went looking for any evidence of extraterrestrial life hiding in U.S. government documents, but couldn’t find any.

Snowden has just released his new book, “Permanent Record,” which details his life as an employee of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and subcontractor for the National Security Agency (NSA), and his leaking of classified government surveillance information to the press in 2013. In the memoir, he writes that he tried to answer a burning question many conspiracy theorists have been positing for years — whether the U.S. government had found — and was hiding — aliens from the public.

Like anybody else would be, Snowden was curious. The difference is that Snowden had the security clearance to access classified government documents, so he went looking on the internal network, but to no avail.

“For the record, as far as I could tell, aliens have never contacted Earth, or at least they haven’t contacted U.S. intelligence,” Snowden writes in his book.


https://nationalpost.com/news/world/edward-snowden-tells-joe-rogan-the-u-s-government-isnt-hiding-aliens-he-checked

[ExomatrixTV]

He does not have a "need to know position" dealing with that topic ... obvious ... Most ultra secret projects are highly compartmentalized, assuming Snowden is the "end all be all" on anything alien is totally ridiculous and hilarious! Plus an insult to any (normal) intelligence.

[James]

Aside from a handful of botched investigations or difficult to replicate experiments, I personally do not believe the U.S. government, comprised of temporarily elected officials and civil servants, knows much more than a lay person with an internet connection.

As with anything else, the private sector is where the action is, has been, and always will be - especially when it’s hose-fed government money with little to no oversight. Edward Snowden would have had no way to peer into that world.

[Matt P]

I have to admit, after 45 minutes into the Snowden interview with Rogan it hit me that Snowden is part of the deception. He obviously supports the official government 9/11 narrative, which no competent person would do. He essentially proclaims himself the world authority on aliens, which no sane person would do. He said he makes his living giving speeches at universities and doing interviews. He said the US government opposed his new book, which happens to be the #1 selling book in the WORLD right now. I’ve realized if his message was so controversial he would not be allowed such freedom of movement or business. The elites would’ve shut him down easily by now. The CIA doesn’t just let this happen.

Matt

[Franny]

I've got to agree mpennery. At first I was quite optimistic about Snowden, but over time I had some reservations and they only grew.

I listened to about 40-45 minutes of the interview and stopped. He covered too many topics that makes him look like controlled opposition, he exposes what he is.

Did anyone watch to the end to see if Joe Rogan questioned his positions?

[Tam]

I don't think he's controlled opposition as much as simply cornered. He's got nowhere else left to go, and probably has people he wants to protect. So he keeps his mouth shut.

[RogeRio]

“For the record, as far as I could tell, aliens have never contacted Earth, or at least they haven’t contacted U.S. intelligence,” Snowden writes in his book.


specialist who worked in agency of intelligence and know nothing about aliens, do not seem to much intelligent as should be.

[Agape]

I think and from long time observation most if any of the “ET Contact Projects” fall under circumspection of military that is your MoD, DoD etc. who are the only ones with technologies sufficiently loaded and sensitive enough for incoming spaceships requests ..

Military have Deep Underground Bases, bunkers and levels of classification beyond ordinary.

When Dr Greer interviewed the director of the CIA, the later has likewise admitted to know nothing about extraterrestrials and he was denied access to any such information from his colleagues in the DoD because it was not in his “need to know”.


Whatever befalls under “national defense” classification of information is kept away from public eyes should it pose presumed threat and public insecurity.


So we are back on square 1.

Besides that, how can you trust anyone who worked for any or couple of intelligence agencies. These people look interesting but they’re not too deep. They’re as good and bad as professional actors and liars. They keep pretending and showing off and telling stories, all their lives. Guess because they’re payed for it.

So if you need someone to “speak truth” they have to be either pure and innocent or a truth seeker, all their life. More like scientist who can asses real value of information.


But anyway, tongue in cheek, I think he should ask Mr Putin and what he has in his archives. I’ve reviewed again one of the last interviews with Dr Rani Kilde when I was in Finland and it had some interesting information on the topic but may be able to find the correct video with time.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYOokTR2sxI



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[Bill Ryan]

I've got to agree mpennery. At first I was quite optimistic about Snowden, but over time I had some reservations and they only grew.

I listened to about 40-45 minutes of the interview and stopped. He covered too many topics that makes him look like controlled opposition, he exposes what he is.

Did anyone watch to the end to see if Joe Rogan questioned his positions?Still watching, not very far in yet. But his energy is way off (and doesn't do him any favors): he's wired and speeding, like he'd just had 4 cups of really strong coffee all at once.

That may be skewing everything he's presenting, and he's all faux-happy and faux-enthusiastic. He's not coming over as sincere, even though he may be. I'll sit through it all and maybe say more later.

The whole thing:


Joe Rogan Experience #1368 with Edward Snowden (4+ Million Views in 1 day!) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109023-Joe-Rogan-Experience-1368-with-Edward-Snowden--4-Million-Views-in-1-day--)

[conk]

Perhaps it is not Snowden at all. The ease with which video deception can be created is remarkable.

Or maybe he just needs a better search engine.

[Hervé]

Jim Stone's take on Snowden:
Edward Snowden and CIA data searches - (http://82.221.129.208/.vz4.html)

He claims he got to look at all of it in the NSA. Here are the cold hard FACTS: Snowden worked in electronic maintenance. That's a cool job, however it proves he's full of crap and saw NOTHING. Beyond that, the databases he claims to have searched are not accessible from the NSA, and if you are not an operator you can't get to ANYTHING AT ALL. Snowden claiming he did all this as stated recently is cold hard proof he's a fraud, remember, Snowden NEVER said anything at all that I did not already say ahead of him except for a couple system names and:

An SCI facility is full of people who are cleared to ONLY know what is right in front of them. Which in Snowden's case was nothing at all other than the names of the systems he worked on. He did not do the mission itself, and would not have been handed any info of the sort he's now claiming to have seen. He would not have been allowed to search anything at all. Only people cleared to do those searches could have done them and by default, Snowden was not cleared. If he ever was real, he's a hoax now, time for a conspiracy write off.

TO BE CLEAR: No one at the NSA can look up information from the Marines, the CIA, the FBI, the Air Force, those are all separate compartments of SCI security, SCI stands for Sensitive Compartmentalized Information, with a focus on COMPARTMENTALIZED which means George, working at station 3 does not know what Bob is doing at station 4. There's no way for Snowden to have become aware of anything other than specific systems and their capabilities, he did no searches on any topic at all and DID NOT KNOW THE MISSION.

[Wind]

That kind of information must be highly classified. I don't think a person like Snowden should be making any conclusions like that.

[Ernie Nemeth]

He never mentions aliens at all. He does mention many times how it cannot be underestimated how much of a breach of trust this data mining is for the general public. He makes it quite clear that the entire NSA scandal is ongoing and unconstitutional. He goes on to explain that the over-stepping of the law and the use of high tech surveillance basically did the foot in the door thing. Since no one objected to the use of these methods for spying on enemies it just seemed a natural extension to track allies as well and then the final insult, nationals were targeted.

It is when he got the bright idea to create a program that would amalgamate the data mining between departments that the crap hit the oscillator. He could have done it too, according to him, but no department wanted to share their data...

That is when he decided he needed to out these secretive and highly illegal programs.

Almost three hours long. He does seem a bit too buoyant for someone who is a political prisoner.

He claims he had full clearance on those data mining computers and the opportunity to snoop because he was on the nightshift and there were only two of them on the whole shift. He had administrational level clearance to all the data. In the interview he says nothing about aliens at all, not even that he had searched those computers for any possible credence to the idea.

It was a good interview, Joe let him talk it all out without much interruption.

The take away is that we do not understand the threat and that we willingly allow these tech giants to mine our personal data. They then sell that data to third parties who use that data to customize the ads you see. They make billions of $ on our data. They make so much money in fact that the profits, if it went to the owners of the data, you and me, we could have free phones, which we really only rent since we have no control over these devices, free data and free internet. Instead we pay for these services and give them valuable info they can then monetize. At least on TV, we freely watch the advertisements so that TV is free. But on the internet we pay for the service, watch the ads and pay for data overages like a bunch of fools.

Not to mention that they have records of every movement of every citizen for the last twenty years. Any time they want they can put together a comprehensive itinerary of your actions that can be used in a court of law against you. I guess you could call it retroactive criminal attribution. In a few years they will be able to put together a picture of everyone's activities for the last twenty years and determine in retrospect whether any crimes were committed during your life - and then charge you with all infractions perpetrated during your lifetime.

It's coming folks...not pre-crime...but post-crime...

[enigma3]

As Q and others have pointed out, Snowden is a CIA asset. He was planted to attack the NSA. There is an internal war going on at present (which goes back further that Snowden) between the CIA and NSA. It is a VERY big deal. No love lost between the 2 agencies. Each agency has their own intelligence gathering force and satellites to gather data. Q says the NSA has it all. More so than the CIA. Writers and bloggers (Q included) have claimed that the CIA is controlled by the Deep State Rothschilds, Rockefellers et all. They control most drug traffic, the poppy fields of Afghanistan, and are into human trafficking on a large scale. Might as well put a big Luciferian symbol on the front of the CIA.
Not that the NSA is all that benevolent. It isn't as long as it wants a database on all people. Illegal spying is the NSA's calling card.

[DeDukshyn]

I have to admit, after 45 minutes into the Snowden interview with Rogan it hit me that Snowden is part of the deception. He obviously supports the official government 9/11 narrative, which no competent person would do. He essentially proclaims himself the world authority on aliens, which no sane person would do. He said he makes his living giving speeches at universities and doing interviews. He said the US government opposed his new book, which happens to be the #1 selling book in the WORLD right now. I’ve realized if his message was so controversial he would not be allowed such freedom of movement or business. The elites would’ve shut him down easily by now. The CIA doesn’t just let this happen.

Matt

The CIA had grounds and ability to block the sale and distribution of his book ... but what they did instead was to choose to take the revenue from the book for themselves - I believe this is the current arrangement ... makes you wonder why the CIA chose to do that instead of block it -- that would either indicate there's nothing in the book of concern to them, or its being "endorsed".

found an article: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/09/feds-seek-to-seize-all-profits-from-snowdens-book-over-nda-violation/

[Jantje]

In my opinion he comes across as an actor. A useful tool who functions as a release valve. He told the public what they already know. So now there is no more discussion, everybody knows and there is no public outrage. slowly people will get used to it and they will slowly start to accept. job done

[Justplain]

Snowden is part of the 'whistleblower' crowd who uses the fame from his 'revelations' to seed other misinfo into the public realm. Case in point, 'there is no contact between the u.s. government and aliens' , or that 'the 9/11 narrative is legit'. If he were a true hero, he' d do some research before opening his mouth on such sensitive topics, and even if his own experience at the nsa/cia didn't expose it, he'd realize something unusual was going on in these areas. This incompetence discredits Snowden considerably. Although I am thankful for his info release a few years ago, he's now become more of a hindrance than anything else, IMHO.

[Bill Ryan]

Near the very end of this video, at 2:48:40, Dark Journalist (Daniel Liszt)'s guest Walter Bosley is asked what he thinks of Snowden's statement not to have found any evidence of aliens in intel files.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPLt56jSqiA

[leavesoftrees]

I have to admit, after 45 minutes into the Snowden interview with Rogan it hit me that Snowden is part of the deception.

Matt

I only lasted 10 mins. The guy was just performing - totally inauthentic. Reminded me of Wilcock

[James]

There is an overall tone to the interview where it seems like he’s trying to sell Joe a bucket of Oxi-clean, but it does lead me to wonder:

What is the net psychological result of never being able to return home, having varying degrees of propaganda pushed out about you in said home, losing your career and way of life completely, and likely never being able to see your parents again?

I could see this series of experiences as being a catalyst for several psychological disorders, not the least of which might be post-traumatic stress disorder, which might provide a basis for his way of speaking. And since I’ve not seen a video of him responding to questions prior to his ordeal, he may just have that overly-enthusiastic intonation when talking about things that interest him, which is uber common with folks dealing with autism spectrum disorder (Aspergers.)

Worth noting, however!

[Did You See Them]

Funny he saw NOTHING !
Nada,Zilch - not even an enquiry ?

Well where was the data for ATTIP he should have found ?

"From 2007 till 2012 The US government spent $22 million dollars on a program to study UFOs. ... The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Was the US government's last known project on the subject of UFOs"

[Justplain]

Funny he saw NOTHING !
Nada,Zilch - not even an enquiry ?

Well where was the data for ATTIP he should have found ?

"From 2007 till 2012 The US government spent $22 million dollars on a program to study UFOs. ... The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Was the US government's last known project on the subject of UFOs"

And how is it he missed the secret space program that people like Bill Uhouse worked on (see separate thread)?

[ExomatrixTV]

I do NOT dismiss the possibility Edward Snowden is an agent/asset for dis-info & dis-perception tactics ... but be 100% sure that you have real evidence why you come to that conclusion ... otherwise you are at the same level as the dis-informant (or worse).


Practicing discernment-skills can never be spoon fed.

[AutumnW]

Weird. He endorses the official 911 story too? Plus he has a book out...hmmm. Seems like deep cover dude to me. The impression management is extraordinary right down to all the apparent cloak and dagger moves he made seeking sanctuary. LOL. Total fake