We are NOT our genes!!! Bruce Lipton - Biology of Perception

[astrid]

Hey Avalonians, i thought i would post this Bruce Lipton's lecture as it relates to the DNA question some have been discussing on the "Charles" threads'

Bruce Lipton's work is profoundly empowering, as it reveals that physically speaking we are anything but prisoners of our Genetics....


"I was exhilarated by the new realization that I could change the character of my
life by changing my beliefs. I was instantly energized because I realized that there
was a science-based path that would take me from my job as a perennial “victim”
to my new position as “co-creator” of my destiny."

— Bruce H. Lipton


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZ7GqWpEqM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuJdVdArDgc

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=C0iU_QcU4o4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0iU_QcU4o4)

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=wy3arcY0KlQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy3arcY0KlQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-jh9UCy1Fk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFO741MrkIU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ApMxcTw40

Enjoy!

Astrid

[charcia1]

Thankm you, thats very interesting and empowering.!

[witchy1]

Excellent find Astrid. Watched all of him and then Rob Williams on having a good old chat to you brain. Most enjoyable

[astrid]

Glad u enjoyed Witchy!!
I always take note at the start when he says that science text books are 10 years behind, no wonder kids get so bored these days, i think they intuitively know they are being fed BS....

I thought this was appropriate "response" to the "Charles" threads on genetics and DNA.... this is why we have not behaved like the experiment was planned...
It does fit with how much they are attempting to control our environment...

SO you can, how "turning away/off from their "programmed environment" , is absolutely crucial to us claiming back our full power.

I believe this knowledge holds a BIG key to this battle we are now in.

And second step is deprogramming what has already been hardwired in. I might do another thread on that, there are a few tools for that, psych- k is one, although i like EFT better....

I have a particular interest in the brain.
If u can look up a book called "The brain that changes itself" By Norman Doidge

i think im heading towards training in biofeedback/neurofeedback , which i have been trialing this past year, and will be continuing throughout 2011.

This is tech they have used in MK ULTRA, but like anything, in the right hands....

(You can use a knife to peel an apple, or to harm someone.)

I suspect that the "machine" that Charles is referring to would be biofeedback related.

[witchy1]

I actually took notes - He is a great orator. I did find myself with questions (as one would expect). For instance

His explanation does not explain why children get cancer, specially the teratomas, leukemias, brain tumors etc - Im sure he has the answer to this, but ran out of time
Can you force the cells to take in more protein/enzymes than they need - where is the off switch for proteins, why dont cells explode??? Where is the homeostatis - what organ controls this with what enzyme or hormone. Can the cell overproduce
How does Oxygen rate in all of it (without this the cell dies irrespective of having a nucleus or not) and does the concentration of O2 matter. What then causes cell death????
What role does the mitochondria have - has this changed as well
Where does ATP play a role
What about the telemeres on the DNA, what stops them from shrinking??? perhaps its not relevant etc etc etc

I suspect that tptw have had this information for a long long time to be honest, and for whatever reason have decided to let us have it.....which begs the question - is it correct still. or is there still more to come. Have they got it right this time? Certainly seems to fit the brain perception cell thing well

Im a big fan of somatids / chondrianas / pleomorphism - although struggling to get up to date info on this- its so well hidden. (Sun-nation has quite a bit) I also subscribe to the premise that bacteria,yeast, fungi, virus are (in the majority of cases) created in the body as a result of disharmony in the body. ie. Disease comes from within and that is due to the somatids/chondriomas

What I did love about the vid was the connection between science and spirituality and objectively identifies how we are the result of our perceptions and how this occurs in the environment. He made it all fit together so well. Very cool stuff

With your interest in the brain, do you have up to date information on the pineal gland?????????? again its really hard to find stuff that is credible. Its so tiring and boring looking through science journals etc. (and I really only understand minute bits of it anyway - the things we do in search for answers- LOL)

I look forward to the EFT information.

I think you are on the right track with the neuro stuff, people will cotton on eventually that assistance might be required from professionals for deprogramming. Biofeedback I think will be used in gaming in the near future - you can already move a pc cursor with you mind (thread on it here somewhere) Plus its really interesting stuff

Thanks again Astrid

[illuminate]

I might do another thread on that, there are a few tools for that, psych- k is one, although I like EFT better....


Thank YOU Astrid... and I think that would be swell :)


"I was exhilarated by the new realization that I could change the character of my
life by changing my beliefs. I was instantly energized because I realized that there
was a science-based path that would take me from my job as a perennial “victim”
to my new position as “co-creator” of my destiny."

— Bruce H. Lipton


:love:

[AlkaMyst]

WOW! Thanks Astrid......Great Find!!! ;)

Watching right now.....just to add my 2 cents, is funny how scientist are finding out that everything they knew is actually wrong. This correlates with Dr. Michio Kaku's interview with BBC when he admits that everything we know about physics is wrong and we have to re-write all the text book!!!

See here.....
Part-1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXUP6nAkxE

Part-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK_g6HX5Obw&feature=related

Part-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRwLZD175MQ&feature=related

Like David Icke said "This is a great time to be alive"

[Tea]

Well done astrid. This is exactly the kind of stuff we need here at avalon at this time.



Here is a quality short interview with Dr. Bruce Lipton. It sums up the importance of his work very nicely.

SCIENCE & SPIRITUALITY Dr. Bruce Lipton -Changing Our Cells by Thought


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAOzxO8NyI&feature=related




Here is another great interview with Dr. Bruce Lipton. He talks about his history with the subject and the problems with conventional 'science'. He also taks about the placebo effect and the lesser known "nocebo effect". (Wow, this is the kind of scientist I was looking for; he sees the importance of the placebo effect in the same way I did). In the last part of the interview he discusses how the conscious and subconscious minds effect us.

Bruce Lipton - The Tapping Solution


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0aHgkfKKbM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


Bruce Lipton - The Tapping Solution - Pt. 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co83kzpn1jk&feature=related




Here is the second half of the conference from the original post:


Paradigm pioneers Bruce Lipton, Ph.D and Rob Williams, M.A. make a compelling case for changing our traditional views of biology and psychology. Lipton and Williams challenge the prevailing misconceptions of each discipline and provide a logical, scientific and practical way to understand and use these revolutionary new ideas. The video is a masterful blend of biology and psychology. As you watch the puzzle pieces fit together, you will experience the inseparable nature of the mind/body connection.

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 1 of 8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31Twavnq9o&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 2 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBbfzpTiX8&feature=related

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 3 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA6d1pYvw98&feature=related

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 4 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff9FE_E4rcQ&feature=related

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 5 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rK_i_jKOvA&feature=related

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 6 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLh49MYUrkU&feature=related

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 7 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdICCbxJ9pY&feature=related

The Psychology of Change Rob Williams 8 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTYu65HD9dk&feature=related

[Arpheus]

What a wonderful series of videos this scientist is what all scientists should be all about i was smiling and grinning while watching every single video heh.

[astrid]

One of the things i REALLY love about Bruce Lipton is that hes one of the great "bridge- builders" between science and spirit.
I find that its very Its important to have some of these people in your "awake and aware tool kit"

I link people just waking up to these types of videos and leave them too it, they usually come back much more ready to take on more information,
having had their mind opened up just enough to start questioning the old paradigm.

After this it becomes quite a logical progression of information.

But let's face it, its SO EASY to preach to the converted!!

I'm much more interested in assisting to wake as many as i can.
And from all my studies with healing modalities, the first crucial step is empowerment,
its mind blowing how systemically helpless and apathetic mainstream people are feeling. Its a complete TRAGEDY.

We are all so powerful , so creative and so incredibly RESOURCEFUL.

The question is not can we get ourselves out of this mess but do we BELIEVE we can.

Now that i seen to have some interest in this subject...

i would invite people to go back and view an earlier post i made on the placebo documentary.. ITS VERY IMPORTANT
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10027-Important-Documentary-Placebo-cracking-the-code


This information is not targeted so much at Avalonian for learning, ( as we are all pretty empowered bunch), its more for teaching and empowering
those we love that are STILL NOT GETTING IT!!

I see Avalon personally as a "think tank" where we come to get ideas on how to help in the wider community.

And really, the point i'm trying to get across here is we are the new teachers....

Thanks for posting the second part on Rob Williams Tea, that opens up the next part of the progression of logic here,
after empowerment comes de-programming ourselves from all the insidious brain washing, this is a subject im very interested in.....

p.s illuminate i added your Lipton quote to my OP, thanks for posting that!!

[slipknotted]

how far will this end as bill say we are a genic project will we really experience that or only touch it ?

[conk]

witch1, children suffer from illness due to inherited frequencies. Not always the cause, but often. Toxins are sometimes the culprit. With a genetic proclivity towards X, it may take only a very small sample of a toxin to see ill effects. I'm betting on inherited frequency, which is not the same as hereditary genes. A mind twist I know.

Lipton's books are great. His "Spontaneous Evolution" was co-written with a 'comedian' of sorts. Really entertaining and factual.

Buddha said it first. To paraphrase: You are what you think.

[AlkaMyst]

Astrid, I know you meant well by posting this for everyone and I told you I appreciate it, but............

I'm sorry that I have to be the bearer of bad news.....but, the truth must be told!!! I must say, this had me going too but being the type of person I am, I had to dig a little deeper and this is what I found!!!

Source (http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?4,16695,67028)

mm-k...Psyk-K

Left-brain right-brain stuff went out a couple decades ago!

lets think about this...K...what is that?
Kinesiology?
yep, Psychological Kinesiology

applied kinesiology
[skepdic.com] (http://skepdic.com/akinesiology.html)


Applied kinesiology (AK) is a diagnostic method created by George Goodheart, D.C. According to the International College of Applied Kinesiology, AK "is a system that evaluates structural, chemical and mental aspects of health using manual muscle testing with other standard methods of diagnosis." However, Goodheart and his followers unite chiropractic with traditional Chinese medicine (among other things); not only do they accept the notion of chi and the meridians of acupuncture, they posit a universal intelligence of a spiritual nature running through the nervous system. They believe that muscles reflect the flow of chi and that by measuring muscle resistance one can determine the health of bodily organs and nutritional deficiencies. These are empirical claims and have been tested and shown to be false (see references below). Other claims made by practitioners are supported mainly by anecdotes supplied by advocates.

That is just a version of the old the "muscle testing" scam.
What happened is that AK caught on, and became popular. So a zillion people came up with variants of the same thing, Tapping, TFT [skepdic.com] (http://skepdic.com/thoughtfield.html)
EFT Emotional Freedom Techniques [skepdic.com] (http://skepdic.com/eft.html)
and dozens of others.
There literally is no end to it.
Once they "create" their own "therapy" they can license it, and train others, and make a bundle.

Sorta like The Work by Byron Katie, in terms of business structure.

The "programming' he got from the idea of NLP...Neuro-linguistic Programming
They are selling Psych-K hard, workshops, trainings, etc.

But it doesn't look like Psych-K been discussed yet much on the internet as a Psych-K scam, Psych-K rip-off, con, Psych-K pseudoscience, Psych-K skeptic, sceptic, Psych-K money-machine. (hello Google!)

But there are some critical Amazon.com reviews.
Customer Reviews
The Biology Of Belief: Unleashing The Power Of Consciousness, Matter And Miracles
[www.amazon.com] (http://www.amazon.com/Biology-Belief-Unleashing-Consciousness-Miracles/product-reviews/0975991477/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar)

These guys just pulled Psych-K out of their ass, to create a money-machine in your brain, for them!
Its another Miracle Cure! Wow, the world needs more expensive miracle cures MLM franchises, that is for sure.
Yay, good ole Cosmic Connie appears to be giving them a smack!

COSMIC CONNIE, THE QUEEN OF THE COSMOS ________________________________________________________
[cosmicconnie.blogspot.com] (http://cosmicconnie.blogspot.com/2006/08/up-celling-biology-of-commerce.html)
Wednesday, August 02, 2006
Up-celling: the biology of commerce

"my quarrel with Lipton is not so much with his ideas as it is with his followers who are turning him into yet another cult hero"
"Dr. Lipton is selling more than his book. He is also making a pretty penny traveling around performing lectures and workshops that promote his ideas, and he seems to have a finger or two in the PSYCH-K pie as well.
One disillusioned reader on Amazon.com wrote, "I agree with the 1 star reviews of this book. This book said nothing new and then at the end the author is pushing another new age process that cost in excess of $350 to do. Save your money and time and skip this book."
_______________________

Bruce Lipton, Ph.D
The Biology Of Belief: Unleashing the Power Of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles.
Product Details
Hardcover: 224 pages
Publisher: Mountain of Love (March 18, 2005)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0975991477
ISBN-13: 978-0975991473

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Psych-K also has "experiential workshops".
Here we go again, another LGAT.
They make books that are VAGUE and are used to upsell people to attend expensive seminars, which then upsell to more seminars, coaching, and even franchising like a MLM.
Original.

check out the reviews (http://www.amazon.com/PSYCH-K-Missing-Peace-Your-Life/product-reviews/0975935402/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) for this book about Psych-K. He can't even get his friends to write some good reviews, they are almost all awful. That book failure must have driven him to approach Bruce Lipton, to write something more complex-sounding to bamboozle people with gobblygook.
Its just old fashioned business cross-marketing.


PSYCH-K...The Missing Peace In Your Life! (Paperback)
by Robert M. Williams (Author)
[www.amazon.com]
Paperback: 157 pages
Publisher: Myrddin Publications (July 22, 2004)
ISBN-10: 0975935402
ISBN-13: 978-0975935408

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well, Kinesiology has been well debunked already, for example at SkepDic [skepdic.com] (http://skepdic.com/akinesiology.html)
so that makes it easier to investigate.

These types of salespitches fall into almost identical patterns. And they can make serious money, with aggressive salesmanship, and Psych-K is very aggressive in their sales.

So each of this things can be seperately investigated, especially now thanks to the internet, in minutes.

The bottom line, is when someone is making a Big Claim, they have to provide the hard evidence, not stories and anecdotes. Independant facts, from independent studies.

Its like Carl Sagan said, its the same mentality as buying a used car, without a warranty, cash-only, no refunds. In that type of case, we better be very skeptical of the claims being made by the car salesman, and get an expert mechanic to check out the car, or we are going to get a lemon, and get burned.
It seems to me to be the exact same mental process as buying a used car from a used car salesman.
Its a tricky business, as once you sign on the line, tough nuts for you, if you got burned! No refunds! No warranty! No nothing!

[Tea]

Hi AlkaMyst,

I mean no offense, but I don't quite understand how what you have presented above debunks the material that was shown.

All they are saying is that George Goodheart came up with psych-k and they believe that it is bogus, therefore the material of these two is also bogus. Then there are just a bunch of opinions from random people reviewing books.

Of course, the age old they-are-making-money-from-this-so-it-is-nothing-but-a-scam argument is also presented. Most people who present this argument don't realize how contradictory they are. Almost everything that is a 'success', not necessarily of value to humanity, generates revenue. Things like chemotherapy and cholesterol lowering pills generate tons of cash, for example, but you will rarely hear a 'skeptic' argue that because people are making tons of money from these things they are a complete scam. Ironically they are both a complete scam; moreover, the same website seems to be in support the idea that cholesterol causes heart desease.

In the second part of the conference Rob Williams says something along the lines of 'have you ever heard of muscle testing? Ok, well throw everything you know about it out the door'. It does not seem that he adheres to the original theory/technique of Applied Kinesiology anyways.

Keep in mind that most physicists still think it is impossible for something to give out more energy then you put into it. Think free energy.

Also, try explaining what chi is to any 'scientist' and see what generally happens.

It would not surpirse me at all if this material gets tons of negative criticism since it is completely outside the realm of mainstream 'science'.

Does all that mean it is not bogus? No. I just don't think this nearly enough to say that it is.

And I know you never stated yourself that the information was bogus, but the article was cleary saying so.

My 2 cents.

[AlkaMyst]

Tea

Hi AlkaMyst,

I mean no offense, but I don't quite understand how what you have presented above debunks the material that was shown.

All they are saying is that George Goodheart came up with psych-k and they believe that it is bogus, therefore the material of these two is also bogus. Then there are just a bunch of opinions from random people reviewing books.

Of course, the age old they-are-making-money-from-this-so-it-is-nothing-but-a-scam argument is also presented. Most people who present this argument don't realize how contradictory they are. Almost everything that is a 'success', not necessarily of value to humanity, generates revenue. Things like chemotherapy and cholesterol lowering pills generate tons of cash, for example, but you will rarely hear a 'skeptic' argue that because people are making tons of money from these things they are a complete scam. Ironically they are both a complete scam; moreover, the same website seems to be in support the idea that cholesterol causes heart desease.

In the second part of the conference Rob Williams says something along the lines of 'have you ever heard of muscle testing? Ok, well throw everything you know about it out the door'. It does not seem that he adheres to the original theory/technique of Applied Kinesiology anyways.

Keep in mind that most physicists still think it is impossible for something to give out more energy then you put into it. Think free energy.

Also, try explaining what chi is to any 'scientist' and see what generally happens.

It would not surpirse me at all if this material gets tons of negative criticism since it is completely outside the realm of mainstream 'science'.

Does all that mean it is not bogus? No. I just don't think this nearly enough to say that it is.

And I know you never stated yourself that the information was bogus, but the article was cleary saying so.

My 2 cents.

I first have to apologize to everyone here for jumping the gun and posting this without researching this for myself this to it's fullest.....I did see "The Psychology of Change Rob Williams" last night and also came across the info I posted above last night.

But, today just a few hours ago I tried Rob's technique with my oldest son just to see if it was a bunch of crap or if it really had some substantiality to it and the way I did it is that I tried it on him without explaining first what it was all about, after I tried it and had 100% success with it (and keep in mind that my son is 16yrs old and has no clue on any of this stuff), but after we did it and he saw the change it caused "I Was AMAZED".......now I can't just draw it's conclusion from that experience alone but I want to now try in with all my friends and family members to see what the result ratio is, so I'll keep posted on that!!!

Again (Tea, Astrid and everyone else!) please accept my apologies deepest for my post....if anyone feels offended by it or just wants it removed, please say so and I will do that happily!!!

Blessings to All,
AlkaMyst

[Tea]

Again (Tea, Astrid and everyone else!) please accept my apologies deepest for my post....if anyone feels offended by it or just wants it removed, please say so and I will do that happily!!!

Blessings to All,
AlkaMyst

No need to apologize, honest mistake, happens to all of us at some point or another. But I will fully accept your apology if you wish to make one.

Thanks for telling us about your experience.

Peace. :thumb:

[AlkaMyst]

Thanks for accepting my apology......This is got me really worked up, I can't wait for my wife to get home from work to try it on her (LOL).

I will keep posted on how it goes :)

Blessings to All,
AlkaMyst