Q posting about Project Looking Glass

[robinr1]

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https://twitter.com/fillasaufical/status/1194044070039085057📁
Project Looking Glass?
Going Forward in Order to Look Back.
Q


anyone have any thoughts on this? Would think that would be a pretty big deal on this forum..

I havnt given it a whole lotta thought since the 2007 dan burisch interview project Camelot did.

Also fairly interesting that the 2012 bill wood interview Kerry did regarding project looking glass is going extreme viral on facebook twitter ect ect but not much conversation about the dan burisch interview which discussed project looking glass too.

robin

[Bill Ryan]

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Project Looking Glass?
Going Forward in Order to Look Back.
Q


anyone have any thoughts on this? Would think that would be a pretty big deal on this forum..

I havnt given it a whole lotta thought since the 2007 dan burisch interview project Camelot did.

Also fairly interesting that the 2012 bill wood interview Kerry did regarding project looking glass is going extreme viral on facebook twitter ect ect but not much conversation about the dan burisch interview which discussed project looking glass too.

robin

More evidence to suggest (for me personally) that this is a cheap, wannabe shill. (Sorry! :flower: But I mean what I say, in my personal opinion.)

Because cheap, wannabe shills never have to prove anything to anyone, and are never open to interview or question.

That's cowardice.

The same as when Q posted about Roswell and the Secret Space Program.... JUST like someone who'd heard a little about it on YouTube but didn't really know very much at all — and certainly nothing classified.

I'll do a public 180º retraction and update (and eat my hat with mustard and ketchup) if Q ever posts anything about these major programs which we don't know, or which is barely public knowledge apart from by a few specialist researchers. Or, maybe, not public knowledge at all, but which might be verified sometime later.

Then, I'd listen carefully.

Like, what really did happen at Roswell? When, and with how many crash sites? How were the craft brought down? What about the Alien Autopsy? Name some names?

Where are the Lat-Long co-ordinates of the Mars base? What were the names of the astronauts who first landed there? How does 'The Corridor' work, and where did we get that technology? How many large ships are in the Solar Warden fleet, and how are they powered?

And, while Q is at it, maybe it could be clarified whether the TicTac 'UFOs' are really classified USAF high-tech drones that were being tested against the US Navy's capabilities in training exercises. Come on: let's be told.

I know quite a lot about Project Looking Glass, so I'm waiting patiently there as well. Can we learn more about T1v83? Does Q even know what that is? Does he also know about the Orion Cube, and the Yellow Book? But I'm expecting nothing more except (maybe possibly) a few generalized, manipulative, name-dropping teasers.

I'm not impressed at all. I'm genuinely prepared to be.... but I'm definitely not holding my breath.

[robinr1]

truly appreciate the response..

my only thoughts would be that IF q is real and is indeed trying to red pill 6.4 billion sleeping masses it must be done slowly and extremely carefully. I think you lose 98/100 when discussing the things you mentioned above.

[Bill Ryan]

truly appreciate the response..

my only thoughts would be that IF q is real and is indeed trying to red pill 6.4 billion sleeping masses it must be done slowly and extremely carefully. I think you lose 98/100 when discussing the things you mentioned above.
In my opinion (and with genuine respect), you're 100% wrong.

If Q really demonstrated they know what they're talking about with regard to classified programs, then they'd have the attention of a lot of people who (like myself) dismissed Q long ago.

And if Q really wanted to reach 6 (or 7) billion people, they'd be posting in such a way as would easily be understandable when translated into other languages. (What Q posts cannot be accurately translated out of cryptic English. Do think about that.)

And the way to reach many people is to explain things simply, and clearly, be open to questions and interviews, and gain respect. Like an excellent teacher.

Q is not that. He has no clue how to present things well. If he did, he'd be on video or audio with his own show like Joe Rogan, but even better and with 50 million viewers.

Alex Jones does what he cannot. Alex, for all his faults, has courage. Q has none.

But instead, Q has become a shadowy cult, followed by those that trust too much, hope too much, and desperately want to believe.

[Ratszinger]

I agree mostly with Bill and I think it's hard to fault someone for wanting to believe. We all want to but there is a chance slight as it may be that Q is Trump. They know about the same level of knowledge. Their 'screw up frequency' is about the same. They certainly seem to run concurrent with each other for posting and many times Trump has made a very distinctive "Q" in the air with his finger and arm. The fact is if it was Trump Q would have to behave as Q is behaving because of the court of public opinion if it got out that it was DJT. I mean imagine the time they'd have with him being able to find time to play games with Q while Tweeting untold times per day and he still has time to run the country?

So in this scenario and only this one do I see the slightest chance to explain why Q doesn't show up in public, or give a talk and so on to reach more viewers. I think in all honesty that Trump and Q are reaching pretty much the same level of audience when they post also. One thing with Q talk I'm finding is that I find myself suspecting that many people feigning interest in Q are actually keeping up with this more than they want to admit even in small circles. Even my mother, a stanch democrat in WV that hardly gets out knows about Q and actually asked me if I had heard of it! So there you go. It's reached the hillbilly's just like Trump.

[edina]

I agree mostly with Bill and I think it's hard to fault someone for wanting to believe. We all want to but there is a chance slight as it may be that Q is Trump. They know about the same level of knowledge. Their 'screw up frequency' is about the same. They certainly seem to run concurrent with each other for posting and many times Trump has made a very distinctive "Q" in the air with his finger and arm. The fact is if it was Trump Q would have to behave as Q is behaving because of the court of public opinion if it got out that it was DJT. I mean imagine the time they'd have with him being able to find time to play games with Q while Tweeting untold times per day and he still has time to run the country?

So in this scenario and only this one do I see the slightest chance to explain why Q doesn't show up in public, or give a talk and so on to reach more viewers. I think in all honesty that Trump and Q are reaching pretty much the same level of audience when they post also. One thing with Q talk I'm finding is that I find myself suspecting that many people feigning interest in Q are actually keeping up with this more than they want to admit even in small circles. Even my mother, a stanch democrat in WV that hardly gets out knows about Q and actually asked me if I had heard of it! So there you go. It's reached the hillbilly's just like Trump.

This is an interesting observation Ratszinger. That even your mother, a stanch democrat in WV that hardly gets out knows about Q...

That's a pretty good reach.

I hope you're not stereotyping people who read Q, and people who support President Trump.

I know I don't fit that stereotype, nor do most of the people I know who also read Q and support Trump.

[Bill Ryan]

I agree mostly with Bill and I think it's hard to fault someone for wanting to believe. We all want to but there is a chance slight as it may be that Q is Trump. They know about the same level of knowledge. Their 'screw up frequency' is about the same. They certainly seem to run concurrent with each other for posting and many times Trump has made a very distinctive "Q" in the air with his finger and arm. The fact is if it was Trump Q would have to behave as Q is behaving because of the court of public opinion if it got out that it was DJT. I mean imagine the time they'd have with him being able to find time to play games with Q while Tweeting untold times per day and he still has time to run the country?

So in this scenario and only this one do I see the slightest chance to explain why Q doesn't show up in public, or give a talk and so on to reach more viewers. I think in all honesty that Trump and Q are reaching pretty much the same level of audience when they post also. One thing with Q talk I'm finding is that I find myself suspecting that many people feigning interest in Q are actually keeping up with this more than they want to admit even in small circles. Even my mother, a stanch democrat in WV that hardly gets out knows about Q and actually asked me if I had heard of it! So there you go. It's reached the hillbilly's just like Trump.


Way too dangerous for Trump to be 'Q'. Too many people in the agencies would have very easily found out a long time ago, and then he really would be impeached. (And rightfully so, as well.)

[edina]

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Project Looking Glass?
Going Forward in Order to Look Back.
Q


anyone have any thoughts on this? Would think that would be a pretty big deal on this forum..

I havnt given it a whole lotta thought since the 2007 dan burisch interview project Camelot did.

Also fairly interesting that the 2012 bill wood interview Kerry did regarding project looking glass is going extreme viral on facebook twitter ect ect but not much conversation about the dan burisch interview which discussed project looking glass too.

robin

I noted this post in the Q Thread, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1323113&viewfull=1#post1323113).

For the general public reading this thread, you won't be able to follow that link, because the only thread available on Avalon that allows people to treat the Q posts with any validity has been shadow banned in the members only section.

It's interesting to me that there has been a surge of interest in people wanting to learn more about and to understand Project Looking Glass.

That's the Q affect, in my experience.

The mention of Project Looking Glass in this post is in context of the Tweet that was shared above.

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It's a way of responding to someone's observations.

The primary focus of most of the Q posts is more along the lines of helping people find the open source information regarding the issue of ongoing corruption.

Which makes sense to me.

It's my personal opinion, that we (the people included) have to clean up the corruption before we can allow further disclosure.

Meanwhile, the cognitive gap of what people think reality is and what it actually is has to also be gradually dealt with.

Every once in a while, Q will slip in something like the above mention of Project Looking Glass, to help close that gap a bit.

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?

Is there a thread or few here in Avalon that you would want to point anyone toward?

[Bill Ryan]

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html.

If Q knew about this, he'd have already mentioned it. So he doesn't.

[edina]

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html.

If Q knew about this, he'd have already mentioned it. So he doesn't.

Thanks Bill for sharing that link.

I'm sure many people who read here and were curious about learning more, appreciate it.

Honestly, I don't know what Q knows or doesn't know.

I only know about what Q has posted.

[Bill Ryan]

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html.

If Q knew about this, he'd have already mentioned it. So he doesn't.

Thanks Bill for sharing that link.

I'm sure many people who read here and were curious about learning more, appreciate it.

Honestly, I don't know what Q knows or doesn't know.

I only know about what Q has posted.

The significance here is that if Q really was an insider who knew about Project Looking Glass (and wasn't just a YouTuber who'd briefly heard a little about it and was name-dropping to sound as if he was knowledgeable), he'd have known that in the second half of 2007 there was a classified project to use Looking Glass to forecast the most likely future — which was Timeline 1, Variant 83. 'T1v83', for short.

In that timeline, which was forecast at the end of 2007 to be the most probable, Hillary would win the election in 2008, and all kinds of major catastrophes would follow, including WW III. All this was seen and recorded — visually. Like watching a movie. That's how Looking Glass works.

Kerry Cassidy, an astonished friend called Dan Lux (the author of this book (https://www.amazon.com/SOUL-SCHOOL-Purpose-Life-Revealed/dp/1733807403)) and I sat and listened to an unrecorded 5 hour (five hour) debrief in a noisy Las Vegas casino restaurant that was 100% authentic. At that time, Dan Burisch was a close friend and there was a great deal of mutual trust.

NO WAY was that acted, invented, scripted, or any kind of hoax. I can remember maybe 10% of the huge flow of non-stop detail we were told, but the most important parts are all on the web page (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html). Do read it.

Politically, this is such dynamite that of course Q would know (if he was for real).

And if there's an update on that, predicting what's most probable to happen from 2020 onwards, and he was a Looking Glass insider, he'd know that as well.

[edina]

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html.

If Q knew about this, he'd have already mentioned it. So he doesn't.

Thanks Bill for sharing that link.

I'm sure many people who read here and were curious about learning more, appreciate it.

Honestly, I don't know what Q knows or doesn't know.

I only know about what Q has posted.

The significance here is that if Q really was an insider who knew about Project Looking Glass (and wasn't just a YouTuber who'd briefly heard a little about it and was name-dropping to sound as if he was knowledgeable), he'd have known that in the second half of 2007 there was a classified project to use Looking Glass to forecast the most likely future — which was Timeline 1, Variant 83. 'T1v83', for short.

In that timeline, which was forecast at the end of 2007 to be the most probable, Hillary would win the election in 2008, and all kinds of major catastrophes would follow, including WW III. All this was seen and recorded — visually. Like watching a movie. That's how Looking Glass works.

Kerry Cassidy, an astonished friend called Dan Lux (the author of this book (https://www.amazon.com/SOUL-SCHOOL-Purpose-Life-Revealed/dp/1733807403)) and I sat and listened to an unrecorded 5 hour (five hour) debrief in a noisy Las Vegas casino restaurant that was 100% authentic. At that time, Dan Burisch was a close friend and there was a great deal of mutual trust.

NO WAY was that acted, invented, scripted, or any kind of hoax. I can remember maybe 10% of the huge flow of non-stop detail we were told, but the most important parts are all on the web page (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html). Do read it.

Politically, this is such dynamite that of course Q would know (if he was for real).

And if there's an update on that, predicting what's most probable to happen from 2020 onwards, and he was a Looking Glass insider, he'd know that as well.

More great resources Bill, thank you. :sun:

QAnons will probably share.

[Bill Ryan]

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html.

If Q knew about this, he'd have already mentioned it. So he doesn't.

Thanks Bill for sharing that link.

I'm sure many people who read here and were curious about learning more, appreciate it.

Honestly, I don't know what Q knows or doesn't know.

I only know about what Q has posted.

The significance here is that if Q really was an insider who knew about Project Looking Glass (and wasn't just a YouTuber who'd briefly heard a little about it and was name-dropping to sound as if he was knowledgeable), he'd have known that in the second half of 2007 there was a classified project to use Looking Glass to forecast the most likely future — which was Timeline 1, Variant 83. 'T1v83', for short.

In that timeline, which was forecast at the end of 2007 to be the most probable, Hillary would win the election in 2008, and all kinds of major catastrophes would follow, including WW III. All this was seen and recorded — visually. Like watching a movie. That's how Looking Glass works.

Kerry Cassidy, an astonished friend called Dan Lux (the author of this book (https://www.amazon.com/SOUL-SCHOOL-Purpose-Life-Revealed/dp/1733807403)) and I sat and listened to an unrecorded 5 hour (five hour) debrief in a noisy Las Vegas casino restaurant that was 100% authentic. At that time, Dan Burisch was a close friend and there was a great deal of mutual trust.

NO WAY was that acted, invented, scripted, or any kind of hoax. I can remember maybe 10% of the huge flow of non-stop detail we were told, but the most important parts are all on the web page (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html). Do read it.

Politically, this is such dynamite that of course Q would know (if he was for real).

And if there's an update on that, predicting what's most probable to happen from 2020 onwards, and he was a Looking Glass insider, he'd know that as well.

More great resources Bill, thank you. :sun:

QAnons will probably share.

Yes. :highfive: If you have any influence of any kind, please help ensure they do that.

The further significance is that — of course! — the Deep State, when this did NOT happen in 2008, have been trying to get back on that timeline.

That's why Trump is so vilified. His election scotched their plans — again.

And even now, they're trying to get back on to that same timeline. That's how very, very dangerous it all is.

And that's why Q, if he was anyone or anything at all, would know all about it, given that he claims to know what Looking Glass is.

[ExomatrixTV]

Mod note from Bill: Post deleted as being totally off-topic. Nothing at all to do with Looking Glass.

@John, you MUST please help us all by keeping threads on topic and not taking them sideways into other areas, where there are already good threads for that in almost every case. Thank you!

(To see and retrieve the content of your post, just click the "Last edited by" link below to the left.) :thumbsup:

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[Ratszinger]

For people who would like to see full disclosure, and want to share in a positive and productive manner, what would you recommend people look at to learn more about Project Looking Glass?


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html.

If Q knew about this, he'd have already mentioned it. So he doesn't.

Thanks Bill for sharing that link.

I'm sure many people who read here and were curious about learning more, appreciate it.

Honestly, I don't know what Q knows or doesn't know.

I only know about what Q has posted.

The significance here is that if Q really was an insider who knew about Project Looking Glass (and wasn't just a YouTuber who'd briefly heard a little about it and was name-dropping to sound as if he was knowledgeable), he'd have known that in the second half of 2007 there was a classified project to use Looking Glass to forecast the most likely future — which was Timeline 1, Variant 83. 'T1v83', for short.

In that timeline, which was forecast at the end of 2007 to be the most probable, Hillary would win the election in 2008, and all kinds of major catastrophes would follow, including WW III. All this was seen and recorded — visually. Like watching a movie. That's how Looking Glass works.

Kerry Cassidy, an astonished friend called Dan Lux (the author of this book (https://www.amazon.com/SOUL-SCHOOL-Purpose-Life-Revealed/dp/1733807403)) and I sat and listened to an unrecorded 5 hour (five hour) debrief in a noisy Las Vegas casino restaurant that was 100% authentic. At that time, Dan Burisch was a close friend and there was a great deal of mutual trust.

NO WAY was that acted, invented, scripted, or any kind of hoax. I can remember maybe 10% of the huge flow of non-stop detail we were told, but the most important parts are all on the web page (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html). Do read it.

Politically, this is such dynamite that of course Q would know (if he was for real).

And if there's an update on that, predicting what's most probable to happen from 2020 onwards, and he was a Looking Glass insider, he'd know that as well.

More great resources Bill, thank you. :sun:

QAnons will probably share.

Yes. :highfive: If you have any influence of any kind, please help ensure they do that.

The further significance is that — of course! — the Deep State, when this did NOT happen in 2008, have been trying to get back on that timeline.

That's why Trump is so vilified. His election scotched their plans — again.

And even now, they're trying to get back on to that same timeline. That's how very, very dangerous it all is.

And that's why Q, if he was anyone or anything at all, would know all about it, given that he claims to know what Looking Glass is.

The only other possibility if it isn't Trump or someone like maybe Sessions, but he'd know all the stuff you speak about for sure, but the other possibility and perhaps the only one is that since Yahoo, Google and Facebook pretty much determine all we get to read on here at all it must be one of them!

[Jayke]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mustang_Alli_12/status/1195197655263203328
1195197655263203328

https://mobile.twitter.com/TransformativeO/status/11951284228439777281195128422843977728

Why couldn’t project looking glass see events after 2012?

2012 held a special astrological event, the transit of Venus (https://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus2012.html) (the left eye of Horus) through the horns of the bull (hathor). In Egyptian myth the return of Horus to the house of hathor held important clues to the great awakening and energy shifts that have taken place since 2012.


The Dramatic Origin – A Story of Betrayal and Murder
The origin of the Eye of Horus may be found in the myth of Set and Osiris. The ancient Egyptians believed that Osiris was the king of Egypt and that his brother, Set, desired his throne. Through trickery, Set succeeded in murdering his brother and became the new king. Osiris’ wife Isis, however, managed to bring her husband back to life temporarily through magic and became pregnant with Horus.

The Cost of Vengeance and the Gift of Restoration
Osiris went on to become the god of the Underworld and Isis raised Horus on her own. When Horus reached adulthood, he sought to avenge the death of his father. Horus fought Set in a series of battles, and eventually vanquished his uncle. During these struggles, however, he lost one of his eyes. According to one version of the myth, Set had ripped out Horus’ eye, tore it up into six parts and threw it away. In another version, it was Horus himself who gouged his eye out, as a sacrifice to bring his father back from the dead. In any case, Horus’ lost eye was magically restored by either by Hathor (often regarded to be the consort of Horus), or by Thoth, the god of wisdom.

As Horus’ eye was magically restored, the ancient Egyptians believed that it possessed healing properties. Amulets of this symbol have been made using a variety of materials, including gold, lapis lazuli, and carnelian, and have been used as jewelry by both the living and the dead.

When the left eye of Horus is restored, people begin to see more clearly = truth becomes perceptible which leads to justice (course correction from error back to virtue), which leads to righteousness (realigning with truth/the dharmic path). To put it in Egyptian symbology, The dendera lightbulb switches on...

https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Dendera-lightbulb.jpg?itok=eIAsfDXy

The “lightbulb” is actually the lotus of consciousness emanating a strong aura which houses the kundalini serpent as it’s held up by the Djed pillar and the Ka (spirit).

Dendera is the same temple of hathor that celebrates the sacred union of Horus and Hathor...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Dendera_relief.jpg

http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/1824/


The three deities adored in Edfu and in Dendera are similar: Horus, Hathor and Ilhy. Hathor of Dendera and Horus of Edfu were united in a sacred marriage ceremony at the Happy Reunion feast. Hathor thus visited her husband Horus of Edfu for a mystical marriage. Her return to Dendera announced the long awaited flooding of the river.

The flooding of the river (the return of the spiritual, life sustaining waters).

Maybe Dendera was an Egyptian complex that marked the important celestial events discussed in the 2012 Venus Lunar Planner article (https://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus2012.html), indicating the end of the Kali Yuga and a return to Dwapara Yuga. Not a complete restoration of virtue but the opening of the left eye, ending the age of spiritual darkness. Dwapara Yuga is 50% virtue, it’s the churning of the milk phase where the Asuras and Devas play tug of war in the churning of the milk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samudra_manthan) legend.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/The_churning_of_the_Ocean_of_Milk%2C_in_a_bazaar_art_print%2C_c.1910%27s%3B_the_Suras_or_gods_are_on _the_right%2C_the_Asuras_or_demons_on_the_left.jpg

Alt-media, Qanons, truth seekers and patriots vs Mainstream media and entrenched globalist deep state propoganda outlets. Two sides of a cosmic battle churning the global consciousness in a tug of war over public perception.

We had a Mercury transit on Monday, signifying the end of a 13 year cycle — and a solar eclipse is due next month —which astrologers believe will herald the beginning of the Jupiter/Saturn ‘great societal reset’ or ‘the great transformation’ (https://www.lunarplanner.com/2020/) occurring over the next decade.

Why couldn’t looking glass see past 2012?

I personally see quantum mechanics as a ‘khazarian circle jerk’ as Eric Dollard describes it, so looking glass technology wouldn’t work on the basis of viewing multiple different quantum timelines.

What could work is a highly advanced computer that could render the algorithm of the stars and planets and code it into future possibilities based on celestial archetypes. Maybe the archetypes post-2012 couldn’t be quantified by the tech while we were still in Kali Yuga energetics, therefore without being fed into the algorithms, any rendering beyond that point was ultimately unknowable (at least until all knew energetics could be discerned, detected, quantified and fed back into the machine sometime after the 2012 events had occurred).

Just my personal musings of course, nothing specifically Q related.

[Bill Ryan]

Why couldn’t looking glass see past 2012?

According to Dan Burisch (and also widely touted by David Wilcock in his pro-2012 rhetoric at that time), the reason for that — if it was true — was because of the hiatus of the two timelines, T1 and T2, creating a kind of temporary 'fog' in spacetime which the Looking Glass couldn't 'see through'.

But the major T1-T2 timeline shift never happened. So assuming that all this was for real, and my strong view is that it was (see my post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323483&viewfull=1#post1323483) about Timeline 1 Variant 83 (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html)), then the Looking Glass should be working perfectly again now. They'd hardly have packed it all into a big box and never tried to consult it again. :)

[mountain_jim]

Hello Bill, I shared here that a Project Camelot link and info was shared in Neon Revolts Gab group, a major Q signal amplifying site.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1323151&viewfull=1#post1323151

Since this topic is being discussed here in the open forum, I will include the content of that post for all to see.

Concerning Project Looking Glass, Neon's Gab yesterday had some posts mentioning Dan Burisch, the Project Camelot interviews, and more.

There has been speculation at times among some anons that Q seems to have had access to timeline info, based on the way past posts have been interpreted later.

This is like full-circle for me because, many years ago, it was a post in a music forum mentioning Dan that lead me to search and find Project Camelot, which led me later to Avalon at it's founding, though it took me a few years to get over my social media avoidance to join here.

I don't know if Neon has included any of that material in his book, but it did enter his articles in the past when Q referenced Looking Glass, and of course Alice, in various contexts.

https://gab.com/TheSeven/posts/103122504755854678



*REALLY* curious what QAnon thinks of Dan Burisch right now, btw.

@NeonRevolt Dan Burisch has since changed his name and is now aligned with Adam Schiff, of all people:

http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/

(and some physics)

RELATED:
Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation (LANL, 1982)

https://permalink.lanl.gov/object/tr?what=info:lanl-repo/lareport/LA-UR-82-5213

(and another post)

https://gab.com/LooseStool/posts/103122438921575918

@NeonRevolt Yeah!

http://projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html

Dan goes into great detail about both the technology and the politics of the Stargates and the Looking Glass. He also discusses the 'Cube', which may or may not be the same device as the fabled 'Yellow Book', or the 'Black Box' reported by our important witness Henry Deacon.

Most students and researchers of the UFO/alien phenomenon need no introduction to Dan Burisch.

Dan discusses his experience in Area 51, where he befriended a captive J-rod called Chi'el'ah; his complex relationship with Chi'el'ah, extending across decades and timelines; his connection with Majestic-12; the war between Majestic and the Illuminati; *the race to close down the Looking Glass technology and secure the man-made stargates leading up to 2012; the calculated chance (19%, or 1 in 5), that 4 billion people will die from natural catastrophes triggered by the activation of the manmade stargates*; the twists and turns of the convergent timeline paradox that affect the aliens from the future as much as they do ourselves; and much, much more.

[Praxis]

I agree mostly with Bill and I think it's hard to fault someone for wanting to believe. We all want to but there is a chance slight as it may be that Q is Trump. They know about the same level of knowledge. Their 'screw up frequency' is about the same. They certainly seem to run concurrent with each other for posting and many times Trump has made a very distinctive "Q" in the air with his finger and arm. The fact is if it was Trump Q would have to behave as Q is behaving because of the court of public opinion if it got out that it was DJT. I mean imagine the time they'd have with him being able to find time to play games with Q while Tweeting untold times per day and he still has time to run the country?

So in this scenario and only this one do I see the slightest chance to explain why Q doesn't show up in public, or give a talk and so on to reach more viewers. I think in all honesty that Trump and Q are reaching pretty much the same level of audience when they post also. One thing with Q talk I'm finding is that I find myself suspecting that many people feigning interest in Q are actually keeping up with this more than they want to admit even in small circles. Even my mother, a stanch democrat in WV that hardly gets out knows about Q and actually asked me if I had heard of it! So there you go. It's reached the hillbilly's just like Trump.


Way too dangerous for Trump to be 'Q'. Too many people in the agencies would have very easily found out a long time ago, and then he really would be impeached. (And rightfully so, as well.)

He wouldnt need to do it it thisway.

Security Classification is entirely an Executive office of the president thing. He can declassify literally anything he wants at any time for any reason. Politically it might be a bad call, but legally he can.

https://fas.org/sgp/library/quist/index.html

That is quite the excellent source for this information. Please note the Atomic ENergy Act as being one of the first congressional means of classifying things.

So the CIA documents on JFK. Trump could release ALL OF THEM RIGHT NOW if he chose to. A very Q move wouldnt you say? Blowing the lid off the JFK thing after all these years. Would be an excellent first strike against the CIA showing that they murdered the president.

That is what doing real damage to the deep state looks like.

[mountain_jim]

Yes but next thing you know they JFK him. Or at least that threat is always present.

[enigma3]

I have read all the Q posts. Some several times. Q has stated on more than one occasion that he has little knowledge of the space program and things UFO related. Things in that realm like Looking Glass.

There have been many Q proofs. Lots of them. The Q proofs demonstrate to me, and many others, that indeed Q is VERY real. The best Q proof relates to the missile launched from an island off Seattle that was intended to take out Air Force 1. If you can read that thread (I don't have it archived) and still think Q is somehow fake, then may the Gods help you.

Q has also stated that he posts disinformation at times. Knowing this I ask - is some random post on Looking Glass disinformation? Most likely it is meant to spur anons to dig deeper.

The focus of Q is to slowly bring an awareness to people that rampant, sick corruption dominates the ruling class and to expect to see some highly regarded people go down. Again, CORRUPTION and not anything space or UFO related. It is unwise to judge Q by what he has posted relative to space/UFO's. Do that and you are completely missing the point. Looking Glass/space/UFO is a sideshow by comparison. Just because Q doesn't have inside knowledge of one subject surely does not mean Q is fake and not worth following. The Q proofs are many. Focusing on a perceived Q weakness is like creating your own red herring. Look here and not at the other mass of Q posts on corruption, human trafficking, etc.

One of the points brought out by Q nonbelievers is how long it has taken to begin the process of taking down the corruption. Q has spent months and months educating us about the impending FISA IG report (and others to follow). Many have lost patience. Timing is vital to these people. Well, the time has come. We wait no longer. By Thanksgiving the FISA report will be made public. The MSM will twist the story to minimize its effect in a last desperate attempt to delegitimize Q, Trump etc. With all the bombs that will fall when the FISA report is issued, any disagreements over something like Looking Glass or any other space/UFO matter will seem like small potatoes. Enjoy the show!

[Ratszinger]

I have read all the Q posts. Some several times. Q has stated on more than one occasion that he has little knowledge of the space program and things UFO related. Things in that realm like Looking Glass.

There have been many Q proofs. Lots of them. The Q proofs demonstrate to me, and many others, that indeed Q is VERY real. The best Q proof relates to the missile launched from an island off Seattle that was intended to take out Air Force 1. If you can read that thread (I don't have it archived) and still think Q is somehow fake, then may the Gods help you.

Q has also stated that he posts disinformation at times. Knowing this I ask - is some random post on Looking Glass disinformation? Most likely it is meant to spur anons to dig deeper.

The focus of Q is to slowly bring an awareness to people that rampant, sick corruption dominates the ruling class and to expect to see some highly regarded people go down. Again, CORRUPTION and not anything space or UFO related. It is unwise to judge Q by what he has posted relative to space/UFO's. Do that and you are completely missing the point. Looking Glass/space/UFO is a sideshow by comparison. Just because Q doesn't have inside knowledge of one subject surely does not mean Q is fake and not worth following. The Q proofs are many. Focusing on a perceived Q weakness is like creating your own red herring. Look here and not at the other mass of Q posts on corruption, human trafficking, etc.

One of the points brought out by Q nonbelievers is how long it has taken to begin the process of taking down the corruption. Q has spent months and months educating us about the impending FISA IG report (and others to follow). Many have lost patience. Timing is vital to these people. Well, the time has come. We wait no longer. By Thanksgiving the FISA report will be made public. The MSM will twist the story to minimize its effect in a last desperate attempt to delegitimize Q, Trump etc. With all the bombs that will fall when the FISA report is issued, any disagreements over something like Looking Glass or any other space/UFO matter will seem like small potatoes. Enjoy the show!

I understand but at the same time I still place the Q material in the same category I place the Gaia material including but not limited to the stuff they promoted with Goode and Wilcock. I want to believe it. I really do. I think most do actually because we all need a savior but I just don't think it's Q. No offense but most of the stuff even just recently just asks a lot of questions. It's not really statements if they all a ? at the end. I think what we have also is a lot of promises made that are just 'stall' posts. "Indictments coming", for example, and that is just one. When? How many? Who? None of these things are addressed so it's all open ended which quite honestly to me is getting quite old. Every time I read a new Q, and I do follow it, but every time it's the same thing going through my mind! "Come on Q! Put up or shut up!"

[edina]

I have read all the Q posts. Some several times. Q has stated on more than one occasion that he has little knowledge of the space program and things UFO related. Things in that realm like Looking Glass.

There have been many Q proofs. Lots of them. The Q proofs demonstrate to me, and many others, that indeed Q is VERY real. The best Q proof relates to the missile launched from an island off Seattle that was intended to take out Air Force 1. If you can read that thread (I don't have it archived) and still think Q is somehow fake, then may the Gods help you.

Q has also stated that he posts disinformation at times. Knowing this I ask - is some random post on Looking Glass disinformation? Most likely it is meant to spur anons to dig deeper.

The focus of Q is to slowly bring an awareness to people that rampant, sick corruption dominates the ruling class and to expect to see some highly regarded people go down. Again, CORRUPTION and not anything space or UFO related. It is unwise to judge Q by what he has posted relative to space/UFO's. Do that and you are completely missing the point. Looking Glass/space/UFO is a sideshow by comparison. Just because Q doesn't have inside knowledge of one subject surely does not mean Q is fake and not worth following. The Q proofs are many. Focusing on a perceived Q weakness is like creating your own red herring. Look here and not at the other mass of Q posts on corruption, human trafficking, etc.

One of the points brought out by Q nonbelievers is how long it has taken to begin the process of taking down the corruption. Q has spent months and months educating us about the impending FISA IG report (and others to follow). Many have lost patience. Timing is vital to these people. Well, the time has come. We wait no longer. By Thanksgiving the FISA report will be made public. The MSM will twist the story to minimize its effect in a last desperate attempt to delegitimize Q, Trump etc. With all the bombs that will fall when the FISA report is issued, any disagreements over something like Looking Glass or any other space/UFO matter will seem like small potatoes. Enjoy the show!

I understand but at the same time I still place the Q material in the same category I place the Gaia material including but not limited to the stuff they promoted with Goode and Wilcock. I want to believe it. I really do. I think most do actually because we all need a savior but I just don't think it's Q. No offense but most of the stuff even just recently just asks a lot of questions. It's not really statements if they all a ? at the end. I think what we have also is a lot of promises made that are just 'stall' posts. "Indictments coming", for example, and that is just one. When? How many? Who? None of these things are addressed so it's all open ended which quite honestly to me is getting quite old. Every time I read a new Q, and I do follow it, but every time it's the same thing going through my mind! "Come on Q! Put up or shut up!"

People share the same thoughts about Sessions, Huber, Horowitz, Barr, Durham, Graham.

We know these are real people.

And we know a real investigation takes time, the more serious the crimes being investigated, the more time the investigation takes.

In this world of conditioned need for instant gratification and shortened attention spans, patience is not easy.

I wonder though, without the Q drops, how many more people would be buying into the corporate/msm media narrative?

#GreatAwakening

[edina]

Security Classification is entirely an Executive office of the president thing. He can declassify literally anything he wants at any time for any reason. Politically it might be a bad call, but legally he can.

https://fas.org/sgp/library/quist/index.html

That is quite the excellent source for this information. Please note the Atomic ENergy Act as being one of the first congressional means of classifying things.
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Praxis, this is a great source, thanks for sharing.

[enigma3]

When reading the Q posts it is best to put all expectations on the rear burner that is turned off. Take the material for what it is. Questions on top of other questions are meant to push anons to dig deeper. Amazing Polly, IPOT, Neon Revolt, Praying Medic and more are those anons doing the digging. Here's one great dig. Go to Neon Revolt's home page and scroll down until you come across the article titled "Fast and Furious on Steroids". There you will take a deep dive into massive corruption via the Pohlad family ( I'd never heard of them either before this) with links to Amy Klobuchar. Rod Serling could have written this it is so unreal. Yet it gives us a look into some of the missing trillions. Seemingly vanishing into thin air.

Also, it has been noted by Q and others that Q cannot post anything that might harm National Security. There are laws against such bold moves. So he has to reveal information in a round about way. A hint here, a crumb there. Quite indirectly rather than directly. As Q has said so often - you have more than you know.

[NX.P]

And even now, they're trying to get back on to that same timeline.

Thought experiment: Let's say in nature, there exists funneling events along the way where entropy is negated and all timeline variations 'tend' toward a certain outcome or chain of outcomes during this window. Also, hypothesize that time travelers could use these funneling events as jump points where their arrival would yield conditions relatively close to what is expected-- a way to jump safely in other words. (And assuming back-travel is possible),would not competing groups be eternally leapfrogging over each other to go back and get the upper hand? Perhaps a group has executed a plan to achieve their desired result and are now trying to disrupt a key funneling event (or events) to prevent 'other' future travelers from back-traveling into this timeline?

Apologies if non-sequitur--just trying to figure out why anyone would be so hell-bent to get to a certain timeline...

[jcking]

Here's another possibility, respectfully: mentioning Project Looking Glass could very well be a version of a known twist of the famous Nigerian prince email scam, and a longstanding hallmark of disinformation propaganda.

Check out, if you haven't heard about this tactic before, any one of the many articles explaining "The Secretly Smart Reason Scam Emails Are Poorly Written"
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/82814/secretly-smart-reason-scam-emails-are-poorly-written


ARROW
TECHNOLOGY
The Secretly Smart Reason Scam Emails Are Poorly Written
BY MICHELE DEBCZAK JULY 8, 2016

If you know what to look for, scam emails aren’t too difficult to spot. They’re usually written in broken English and may even mention the cliché of a Nigerian prince in need of money that’s so overused it’s become an internet-wide joke. The classic formula may feel like it’s run its course, but according to researchers, it’s even more effective now that more people recognize it.

In 2012, Microsoft Research released a paper looking at why the Nigerian or “419” scam in particular has persisted over the years. They found that because such a large swath of internet users have been trained to recognize that certain scam, the small portion of people that do respond are more likely to ignore the red flags and send money.

While a craftier email may get the attention of more people, many of them would turn out to be “false positives” who cut contact with the scammer before handing over any cash. A consistently obvious email narrows down the pool of responders to the most gullible individuals—a.k.a. the people scammers are looking to target.

Looking Glass, somewhat like Roswell or (the various) "Space Brothers" was to an earlier generation, is a very niche, yet searchable contemporary myth. By that I mean that like many myths, it is a widely circulated (and beloved by some) tale that is difficult to verify- it may have happened (or be happening) or it may not. Many people would find it incredibly far-fetched, and I think that may be more of the point.

It's quite possible (let's think of this as a thought experiment, too) that the reason Looking Glass was mentioned at the outset of Q's "return" is to
A- get attention with a wild new searchable plot wrinkle
B- retain new/reinvigorated levels of attention from a certain swath of the population that are willing to go out on a limb far enough that a parallel universe fortune-telling television set (basically) seems like a very possible black-world scenario, IE people like us- people that either feel they know the lore of conspiracy enough to be comfortable with Looking Glass as a concept, or people that are so gullible that they will look it up and maybe think that Andy Basiago should've been the next president of the United States.

I feel it's really important that we remember that this overall scene, people that are into the secret knowledge and the lore, it's always a wild cross-section of the forward-thinking, the curious and the extremely gullible. Propaganda writers have known this about us for decades, so we should probably be sure to consistently remember that for ourselves. Each of those traits can make people targets for different reasons.

Wilcock, Goode and others use this form of selective fishing constantly- they go away for a bit for whatever reason, and when, say, Wilcock comes back it is with a BOMBSHELL POST with CRAZY NEW BRIEFINGS about EARTH-SHATTERING CHANGES that will begin happening JUST NEXT MONTH.

Now, just about anyone that has been around the ufology/new age/"conspiracy"/woo woo/phenomenon/consciousness/etc scene for more than a few years will see that article and roll their eyes and walk away- which is the entire point. People like that don't WANT the Bill Ryans or the Richard Dolans of the world sitting in on those comment threads and politely informing people that this is something that happens roughly twice a year for the last two decades, consistently gets a fresh crop of listeners/believers and consistently comes up almost completely empty.

The new weird far limb of the tree, like for example the Anshar underground babe-cave of CG, or the "Obama on Mars" lore of later Basiago, or Project Looking Glass in general, or underground bases where we work alongside ETs, basically ensures that certain parts of the audience will walk away, and the ones left will, at least temporarily, be entranced. It also can help ensure, of course, that the nuggets of truth of the black world are still muddied and unclear by association.

By all this I mean to say that mentioning an alienating (but very interesting!) piece of lore like Project Looking Glass upon "returning" to the internet could easily be seen as disinfo selective fishing 101- the typos of the Nigerian Prince.
It will grab some influencer types in various internet groups (like this one and many on FB, etc) that get to do a little book report to all the newbies, which will reinforce the potential validity of the new Q stuff by creating kind of a "huddle around the campfire" situation where the remaining audience can bond over lore that the rest of the world finds completely unbelievable. Then after that, the storyteller can really get to work again selling those bridges.

And what are the bridges being sold? Why does Q every once in awhile have verifiable info? Maybe, just maybe, like many have suspected for years now, this is a very elaborate form of propaganda that is squarely focused on an english-speaking American-centric audience, for whatever reason. Truth nuggets buried in there, and largely keeping certain people rapt for a larger purpose. You know, stay busy sending each other wild links down all the rabbit holes and for god's sake make sure to "trust the plan".

Just a thought experiment.

[edina]

Your thought experiment of what you think is happening within the Q community is misinformed.

Just saying... :)

Continue with your "thought experiment", people in the Q community will keep putting pressure on our representatives with the facts we learned from our research, which is quite important right now.

Maybe you're thought experiment is useful, positive, and/or productive? I don't know... people can think for themselves, do their own research, and decide for themselves.

Meanwhile, Q continues to post, continuing to demonstrate that the investigations that the corporate/msm media are NOT reporting are indeed happening.

And have been happening since the day Q started posting, two years ago.

https://qmap.pub/

[edina]

I shared this in the Q thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1323610#post1323610), it's a potential different take on the Project Looking Glass post...


This tweet from Praying Medic related to the Project Looking Glass Q post is interesting.

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1195425366707339264

1195425366707339264


The U.S. Postal Inspection Service, working with the DOJ, conducted the largest pro-active undercover reverse sting operation of its time in 1986—#ProjectLookingGlass. The goal was to identify and utilize prosecutive tools under the new Child Protection Act of 1984.


Postal inspectors have investigated the sexual exploitation of children for more than 100 years. In fact, it was the first federal law enforcement agency to aggressively identify, target, and arrest those who produce and traffic in child pornography.

https://postalmuseum.si.edu/behindthebadge/child-exploitation.html

[Bill Ryan]

I shared this in the Q thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1323610#post1323610), it's a potential different take on the Project Looking Glass post...

This may be a perfect example of what all too often is the problem. No questions can be asked, no clarification requested, no statement challenged or debated, and no documents or references are offered.

These are take-it-or-leave-it, trust-me-and-believe-me one-way guru-like pronouncements, even though what's said is almost always unclear, ambiguous, and simply unprofessional.

It's either incompetent, or deliberately unclear. One or the other. Neither makes any of this look good.

And the number of wheelspinning person-hours spent debating what's really meant or intended goes into the hundreds of millions. (Calculate them!)

The audience is frequently left not knowledgeable and empowered, but disempowered and all too often confused, leaning on nothing other than hope and belief. And meanwhile, friendships and groups are divided.

Qanon never started any 'great awakening' process. That began as long ago as the 1970s with Gary Allen's concise, beautifully written, hand-it-on booklet None Dare Call It Conspiracy (http://avalonlibrary.net/Gary%20Allen%20-%20None%20Dare%20Call%20It%20Conspiracy.pdf).

Hundreds of other hard-working investigators have taken that forward, with such as Alex Jones and David Icke setting the standard for courage, transparency, documented evidence of extreme claims, and plain come-and-shake-my-hand accessibility.

~~~

If Q never referred to the Project Looking Glass that I know about, then please forgive me if I gently step out of the thread. I won't waste any more time on guessing games. :)

[edina]

Most of the people I know who read Q posts and follow up with their own research on the information feel empowered, not dis-empowered.

It makes a difference when people can see the facts for themselves.

It's one reason why so many people are standing up to the corrupt forces that people for so long thought would never be held accountable.

Doing your own research is empowering.

Thinking for yourself, even if its not popular, or supported by MSM is empowering.

Not buckling under the pressure of the disapproval of others because you think differently than them is empowering.

No one is manipulating you or anyone else here.

And if Q was referring to the Project Looking Glass information as you understand it, then I am sure that people appreciate the resources you shared on the topic.

In the spirit of positive cooperation and collaboration.

Which in my experience is the spirit of the Q - Anon community.

[Justplain]

What little I have seen of Q is exactly as Bill describes it, vague, hope raising, unverifiable hot air. To me it's a total waste of time.

Project Looking Glass points to how a psychopathic control group is using advanced, off world technology to keep their control, and this is the very large elephant in the room that is the ongoing danger to humanity.

[Ratszinger]

What little I have seen of Q is exactly as Bill describes it, vague, hope raising, unverifiable hot air. To me it's a total waste of time.

Project Looking Glass points to how a psychopathic control group is using advanced, off world technology to keep their control, and this is the very large elephant in the room that is the ongoing danger to humanity.

Yes and we've had how many warnings now with numerous other 'movements' all of which proved to be full of hot air also! Parks, Goode, Wilcock should all be prime examples of just why people should be doubled down on reservation with Q.

[HaveBlue]

Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation (LANL, 1982) mentioned in Mountain Jims post is tech that is used to look into vehicles or buildings for people or contraband. Similar to Back Scatter X-Ray it will show up things that are hidden without having to say unload the whole banana truck to know there are humans hiding in the middle.

This is how certain tech that govt and law enforcement would rather not be too open about is given a cover story. There may well be more than one Project Looking Glass, but to see into the future? really? Predictive Programming much? The Lone Gunman pilot 'special' and 8 months later 911 happened!

BTW Bill Brockbrader aka Wood is featured by actual Navy Seal. Don Shipley and is a total fraud. (and worse) I saw a YT where he admitted to a court judge his Camelot stuff was all lies. This is all very easy to find if you spend 2 mins on it.

ALICE is the AI program that subverts public opinion. Alice is also a code word for Hillary Clinton. ALICE would have you believe Alice would win in 2016 with a 97% chance. ALICE takes real public opinion and spins it into what the CIA want it to be. I can see Hillary asking the magic mirror on the wall who will win in 2016? It tells her that she will because it doesn't want an ash tray thrown through it!

Dan B told us HRC would win according to their LG. It failed twice! Or maybe it is all BS and they were just trying to prepare the public for the steal. But stealing a landslide is so very difficult and that is why they failed. That is why during the campaign Trump said 'We need a landslide folks or this ain't gonna work'. He got the landslide and the DNC fireworks display was cancelled! They had already started popping the corks on the Champagne! Yes they really are that megalomaniacal. Completely out of touch with reality.

The 4am talking points for the day put out by the CIA for the MSM to peddle and spew forth is also not real public opinion. Most of us know this already (that the MSM is fake) but surely nobody has any excuse to be ignorant of this after the 2016 election in the USA. That was even more blatant than 911!

56 sec YT clip to cheer you up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcaNY5eBWw

[edina]

Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation (LANL, 1982) mentioned in Mountain Jims post is tech that is used to look into vehicles or buildings for people or contraband. Similar to Back Scatter X-Ray it will show up things that are hidden without having to say unload the whole banana truck to know there are humans hiding in the middle.

This is how certain tech that govt and law enforcement would rather not be too open about is given a cover story. There may well be more than one Project Looking Glass, but to see into the future? really? Predictive Programming much? The Lone Gunman pilot 'special' and 8 months later 911 happened!

BTW Bill Brockbrader aka Wood is featured by actual Navy Seal. Don Shipley and is a total fraud. (and worse) I saw a YT where he admitted to a court judge his Camelot stuff was all lies. This is all very easy to find if you spend 2 mins on it.

ALICE is the AI program that subverts public opinion. Alice is also a code word for Hillary Clinton. ALICE would have you believe Alice would win in 2016 with a 97% chance. ALICE takes real public opinion and spins it into what the CIA want it to be. I can see Hillary asking the magic mirror on the wall who will win in 2016? It tells her that she will because it doesn't want an ash tray thrown through it!

Dan B told us HRC would win according to their LG. It failed twice! Or maybe it is all BS and they were just trying to prepare the public for the steal. But stealing a landslide is so very difficult and that is why they failed. That is why during the campaign Trump said 'We need a landslide folks or this ain't gonna work'. He got the landslide and the DNC fireworks display was cancelled! They had already started popping the corks on the Champagne! Yes they really are that megalomaniacal. Completely out of touch with reality.

The 4am talking points for the day put out by the CIA for the MSM to peddle and spew forth is also not real public opinion. Most of us know this already (that the MSM is fake) but surely nobody has any excuse to be ignorant of this after the 2016 election in the USA. That was even more blatant than 911!

56 sec YT clip to cheer you up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcaNY5eBWw

Thank you for pointing out that Bill Wood is a fraud. I thought that had been the case but didn't look into it yesterday to verify.
I found I simply couldn't watch those videos. And stopped in the first minute or so.

This is why collaborating with a group of researchers is so helpful.

A single person can't cover the deluge of information, but as a collaborative group we can cover a good amount.

I wanted to point out that the tweet (https://twitter.com/fillasaufical/status/1194044070039085057) that Q post was responding to had the hashtag, #MilitaryPrecision (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MilitaryPrecision&src=typd).

And that tweet (https://twitter.com/fillasaufical/status/1194044070039085057) was highlighting the fact that a Q post from 11.11.18, which many people thought was about a date, was in fact about a block of DoD IP's that are presently being used for the Q posts.

I think it's important to look at things in context.

And thanks for the laugh, HaveBlue (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2452-HaveBlue), I remember when that first went viral.
His laugh is infectious!!!!

[edina]

What little I have seen of Q is exactly as Bill describes it, vague, hope raising, unverifiable hot air. To me it's a total waste of time.

Project Looking Glass points to how a psychopathic control group is using advanced, off world technology to keep their control, and this is the very large elephant in the room that is the ongoing danger to humanity.

Yes and we've had how many warnings now with numerous other 'movements' all of which proved to be full of hot air also! Parks, Goode, Wilcock should all be prime examples of just why people should be doubled down on reservation with Q.

I wonder sometimes if this is a part of the problem people have with Q.
They feel burned in the past by people that they trusted and are wary to trust again.

I never followed any of the people mentioned above.
I have absolutely no idea what Corey Goode is about except it's something about blue chickens?

I do glance at Simon's site from time to time.

I didn't realize that people thought they started movements?

None of the above are on par with what is happening in the Q Posts and the movement of people associated with the posts.
In the Q posts people are not spoon fed information to blindly follow, the very opposite of what people claim, when they try to pigeon hole the phenom into a guru type thing.

It's important to not trust Q. It's important to use the Q posts as a springboard for your own research and to trust yourself in your process of research.

I was thinking about this yesterday, and realized that it's the shared research that results from going to the source links, and/or digging a bit deeper and sharing the information that's discovered that actually makes this movement so unique.

Just reading the Q posts themselves is not going to give someone a full understanding of what is happening.
It's the sharing the results of the research in a harmonious community of other researchers that really fuels or energizes the movement.

Many people will research in isolation. But to research as a community is hugely energizing.

I think it falls more into the category of a cultural movement.

Once people start learning to research for themselves, that can never be turned off.

[edina]

Attempts at suppression which is a form of censorship can and does have effect.

That said, it's near impossible to keep an independent mind controlled.

1195873883154305025

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1195873883154305025

What gets suppressed, cancelled, discouraged (in technical terms) doesn't go away.



Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead (1901-1978)

[Gracy]

Thinking for yourself, even if its not popular, or supported by MSM is empowering.
Well heres part of the problem as I see it Edina. For example FOX News commentary plays a very big roll on Q threads, and whether FOX cares to admit it or not, whether Q fans care to admit it or not, FOX is msm lumped right in there with the rest of them.

Which is where a sizeable portion of the continuing great divide is happening. Liberal media vs. Conservative media, "the president is a treasonous Putin lover" vs. "the president is the fourth turning hero here to save the day and Make America Great Again".



No one is manipulating you or anyone else here

I beg to differ. I have no problem with Q encouraging people to do their own research, but, it's also entirely possible for people to look into this stuff without Q, as has been done here on this very forum and others much farther back than October 2017.

Part of the divisive phenomena many have observed with Q, imo, has been watching this research becoming politicized and weaponized. One may be armed with all the useful information in the world, but if they are also convinced that simply destroying their perceived political enemy will say, end the pedophile problem, well then now we have another problem on our hands.

Others may disagree, but I consider this manipulation all day long.


I wonder sometimes if this is a part of the problem people have with Q.
They feel burned in the past by people that they trusted and are wary to trust again.
I can only speak for me, but sure a portion of that is of course true. To a point. Of course we learn from experience, like fire burns for instance, but it's more nuanced than that.

We also learn what red flags (aka warning signs) look like. One big one for me is that something big is always just around the corner, just be patient for a little longer, a little longer, almost there, almost there...

Another one is the lure of "be a part of something special, the inside group with the inside scoop".

My hunch about the Looking Glass comment is that a good deal of alternative media is being played as sort of an experiment, a potential breeding ground, a beta test if you will of what may well work in a larger setting, and how would it be done.

Sort of like how our own private information is collected, repackaged, and sent back to us for various forms of manipulation, monetary gain, social conditioning, divide and conquer, what have you.

Let's watch and see if that one has legs and, what may come of it from there.

[edina]

Thinking for yourself, even if its not popular, or supported by MSM is empowering.
Well heres part of the problem as I see it Edina. For example FOX News commentary plays a very big roll on Q threads, and whether FOX cares to admit it or not, whether Q fans care to admit it or not, FOX is msm lumped right in there with the rest of them.

First off, thank you Gracy May for your thoughtful post.

I've always appreciated your civilized tone.

There's much said in your post and to give it justice, I will address it in parts. I may not get to all of it just now, because I have to leave soon to take care of some errands.
But, I will eventually get to all of it, as I can. :sun:

FOX News commentary plays a roll in some of the Q posts, but I don’t see it playing a very big roll.

FOX News is often criticized by Q anons. And is especially criticized by Autists.

FOX News itself often portrays itself as anti-MSM. That's more a marketing or branding component. Much of FOX News is as MSM as the other outlets often associated as MSM.

For me, it’s hard to find a phrase that really works for the part of media that is used to propagandize people. MSM is an easy fallback, short phrase. Sometimes I'll add corporate media in front of it. In the past, I’ve used Mockingbird Media.

The point is that there are elements within media that are used more as “assets” to steer a public narrative.

Unfortunately, many 'alternative' news outlets also fall into this category. I noticed this as far back as 2009. They seem to get their own version of "talking points". I have referred to them in the past as AM-MSM.

I find I have the same problem when trying to define Deep State.

I will often add the words, criminal element, or criminal cabal to the term. Parts of what can be technically defined as Deep State, or the un-elected government bureaucracy is benign. (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2376272) Although that benign bureaucracy can be said to have run amok and is at this point bloated and overkill. I feel it ought to be reduced, the redundancies pruned out and made much more efficient.

But, the more problematic aspects of the Deep State (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-15/high-ranking-cia-agent-blows-whistle-deep-state-and-shadow-government), which I consider to be international, and supra-national in scope, are more malicious and deliberate. Actively undermining nations, and people’s rights, not only here in the US, but in nations all over the planet. Primarily to enrich themselves.

Language is imperfect. And people can argue semanitcs but I’m not certain if that sort of argument is positive and productive.

It may be helpful to clarify our meaning of terms and perhaps come to an agreement as how to best describe situations or entities so that people are on the same page?

I don't know.

Often, I feel people actually agree in essence yet, are argue terminology.

People have cognitive bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias). For example, some people have a bias to look for what is like, or common agreement. Others have bias to look for what is different, or distinctions.

I've seen this happen in something as innocuous as looking at two plants of the same type.

One bias will see all the differences in the two plants. The other bias will not. The bias that focus on like will often times more readily see the big picture, and not get distracted by differences. Both perceptions are valid, in my opinion.

Another bias emanates from personality differences (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-MBTI-Myers-Briggs-Type-Descriptions&p=665299&viewfull=1#post665299). Some are more comfortable with ambiguity (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104393-Polarization&p=1250507&highlight=ambiguity#post1250507), as Jayke has mentioned in other discussions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107825-The-censorship-discussion&p=1304642&highlight=ambiguity#post1304642). And some are downright irritated by ambiguity, and consider it to be "nonsense". Both are valid, in my opinion.

Everyone, while similar, are also hugely unique.

And these unique perspectives can break down communication, especially when people are unaware of how bias works in our perception of the world, and/or disrespect natural differences in perception.



Source links found in the q posts have come from a wide variety of sources, from CIA Archives, FBI Vaults, Wikileaks, many independent investigative journalists from a wide range of publications to shipping manifestos, plane logs, ecetera...

Most of the source links come from the Autists and Anons themselves, sharing research with each other.

In my experience, these play a much bigger roll in the Q threads and Q posts.


As Q has often stated, You are the news now.” (https://qanon.pub/?q=you%20are%20the%20news%20now) 'You' meaning We, the People are the news now.

Some people have referred to it as "The People's Media."

[edina]

I don't know how to do the multi-quotes thing.

Next I'll get to your next statement. I think it's an important point.

But, I have to step away from the computer for the moment. I'll be back in a bit.

[Jayke]

Often, I feel people actually agree in essence yet, are argue terminology.

People have cognitive bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias). For example, some people have a bias to look for what is like, or common agreement. Others have bias to look for what is different, or distinctions.

I've seen this happen in something as innocuous as looking at two plants of the same type.

One bias will see all the differences in the two plants. The other bias will not. The bias that focus on like will often times more readily see the big picture, and not get distracted by differences. Both perceptions are valid, in my opinion.

Another bias emanates from personality differences (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-MBTI-Myers-Briggs-Type-Descriptions&p=665299&viewfull=1#post665299). Some are more comfortable with ambiguity (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104393-Polarization&p=1250507&highlight=ambiguity#post1250507), as Jayke has mentioned in other discussions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107825-The-censorship-discussion&p=1304642&highlight=ambiguity#post1304642). And some are downright irritated by ambiguity, and consider it to be "nonsense". Both are valid, in my opinion.

Everyone, while similar, are also hugely unique.

And these unique perspectives can break down communication, especially when people are unaware of how bias works in our perception of the world, and/or disrespect natural differences in perception.

I'll share a short anecdote while Edinas on an interval regarding the Clare Graves Values systems material...

One of the reasons I bring up Graves work on character levels so often is because – as I was first starting out as a hypnotherapist, it used to completely bamboozle me why certain hypnotherapy techniques worked like gangbusters on some people – instant life changing and life affirming results – yet would leave other people staring at you cynically, as though you're some kind of weird, eccentric, 'voodoo doctor' madman: completely bemused and utterly unimpressed.

One size does not fit all in the hypnotherapy/psychology world.

Clare Graves had a similar problem during his tenure as Professor of Psychology, Union College, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_College) Schenectady, N.Y.

As a professor, he got fed up of the constant bickering and infighting of his students, constantly attacking each other over who thought which model of psychology was the best and most accurate model. Some thought Freud was the all-knowing master, others harped on about Piaget or Carl Jung. None of them could appreciate each other’s viewpoints or perspectives, none of them willing to give each other any ground in discussing their opinions. Everyone had to be right and everyone else was wrong. Full stop.

Graves took it upon himself to take the entire field of psychology and synthesise and systemise it in a way that everyone could be right, and everyone could have their opinions and insights validated, thereby ending the constant interruption to his lessons that frustrated him to the point that he nearly gave up his teaching career altogether.

Most people have heard of Abraham Maslow and his ‘Hierarchy of Needs (https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html)’, what most people haven’t heard however is that Clare Graves and Maslow were friends. They were both working towards understanding the process of human behaviour, fulfilment and motivation. Graves once found Maslow in tears outside a peer review group. Maslows model – and his entire lifes work – had just been trashed by his peers for being unscientific and too subjectively interpreted, opinion-based rather than backed up by real world studies and data. Seeing his friends despair, Graves realised he didn't want to end up like Maslow, he learnt from Maslows mistake and made the decision to make his system of psychology as scientific and objective as possible.

He spent 9 years conducting the same study over and over again, and over 25 years seeing how the results of that study drew parallels with every other psychological system that had ever been written about in the field of psychology up to that point, including the new fields of psychoneuroendocrinology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoneuroendocrinology) that were emerging. It was a huge undertaking and a massive contribution to the world of psychology. The results of his study are published in his little book Levels of Human Existence (https://www.amazon.com/Levels-Human-Existence-Clare-Graves/dp/097247420X) (which is really just a transcript of a presentation he gave to the Washington School of Psychiatry in 1971).

For me, this is a true 'Project Looking Glass' type technology. There's a reason the prime tenet of most ancient esoteric systems is 'know thyself and thou shall know the gods', like a master key for the psyche, the Graves model is a heuristic (https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-heuristic-2795235) code that lets you know which style of psychology is going to help any type of patient overcome whatever type of existential challenge they may be experiencing at any given moment. Invaluable!

Plus it opens the door to understanding Multi-level analysis. Insight into how different character types respond to the same information in often diametrically opposed ways. A crucial skill in todays seemingly crazy world. The sooner people get to see and appreciate each others unique gifts and talents, the sooner all the infighting seen throughout all social media platforms can be brought to an end. An unrealistic hope I have for the near-future. If the yuga cycles I mentioned in my previous post are anywhere near correctly dated, we've got another 2000 years of tug-of-war 'milk churning' to go through before people can learn to see eye-to-eye. :sun:

Anyway, end of intermission, back to topic...

[muxfolder]

Hold on to your MAGA-hats, it's another Q-thread. After 4 years of hoping that the Clintons are going to jail and Donald is about to build the wall, do we still trust the plan? The plan, which no one even knows what it is. Shouldn't this be on the Q-section btw?

[Gracy]

Hold on to your MAGA-hats, it's another Q-thread. After 4 years of hoping that the Clintons are going to jail and Donald is about to build the wall, do we still trust the plan?

Fair enough.


The plan, which no one even knows what it is. Shouldn't this be on the Q-section btw?

This is just me but, I think the story line just overlapped into general forum business again.

You know, maybe this is actually an ideal time to test what Victor Hugo said.


Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come

Is Q the idea whose time has come?

Like always "show me the money".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc

[edina]

Hold on to your MAGA-hats, it's another Q-thread. After 4 years of hoping that the Clintons are going to jail and Donald is about to build the wall, do we still trust the plan?

Fair enough.


The plan, which no one even knows what it is. Shouldn't this be on the Q-section btw?

This is just me but, I think the story line just overlapped into general forum business again.

You know, maybe this is actually an ideal time to test what Victor Hugo said.


Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come

Is Q the idea whose time has come?

Like always "show me the money".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc

This is funny.

I know someone who has a quote graphic "Show me the FISA IG Report."

The delays have been frustrating for many people.

[Haujean Contactee]

The Q movement is designed to put patriots back to sleep, confuse the many, and discourage and discredit the rest. The claim the Robert Mueller who has a life history of being an establishment hit man by covering up aspects of 911, railroading Lyndon Larouche, and running a coup against President Trump was somehow the good guy, only to find out that he wasn't, should be enough to discredit "Q" once and for all. But there are people who make youtube ad revenue who will ignore the obvious and help keep the deception going for as long as the gravy train lasts.

[edina]

Coming back to responding to Gracy May's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323906&viewfull=1#post1323906).

As I said, I'll be doing this is parts.

The first part was here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323923&viewfull=1#post1323923).

Which is where a sizeable portion of the continuing great divide is happening. Liberal media vs. Conservative media, "the president is a treasonous Putin lover" vs. "the president is the fourth turning hero here to save the day and Make America Great Again".


I agree, when the media is used this way it amplifies and magnifies our differences, which leads to a greater felt sense of division.

This doesn’t mean we’re necessarily divided. It’s just that this language-style can lead people to feel they are divided.

It’s sort of like looking through a mirror that distorts the image of reality, skews it a bit. And in some cases skews it a LOT!

Candace Owens (https://www.prageru.com/candace/) talks about this extensively in her work relating to the issue of race.

In thinking about this today, while I was running errands, I decided to look at this first from the specific examples above, and then to broaden that to what I feel is the much larger issue.

In my mind, it’s more of a human nature issue. Which makes this a really big topic, and one reason why I feel it’s important.

Specifically, to your examples here. I’ve heard both of these expressed in this forum and in other places, too.

The first example, "the president is a treasonous Putin lover" is definitely propaganda. People may agree or disagree.

And I feel it’s particularly dangerous propaganda because it derides actions of peace toward Putin/Russia.

The language uses what I call emotionally HOT language. Emotionally HOT language or emotionally charged language elicits an emotional reaction, almost unconsciously. It triggers certain centers in the brain.

Marketing and media use this because it traps a person’s attention. In a way it gets inside a person’s OODA Loop (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1300821&viewfull=1#post1300821).

Many people call it click bait.

The first statement also employs the tactic of “guilt by insult” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem), that if the president is for better relations with Russia that is tantamount to, or equal to, treason. This is one reason why I consider it particularly dangerous.

On Twitter that statement is often shared with very graphic ugly images of Putin and Trump, often in sexually explicit positions. It’s meant to be demeaning, deriding, and mocking.

The language of the second example, "the president is the fourth turning hero here to save the day and Make America Great Again" is not as emotionally HOT, unless it is being stated in the context of mocking someone who may actually adhere to that idea.

Personally, when I’ve heard the second idea expressed it’s not been so much in terms of a hero to save the day, although I think some people very much appreciate Trump in that way, but more along the lines of analysis of the times and current events to the particular theory mentioned, the Fourth Turning.
(https://www.fourthturning.com/)
I’ve seen this analysis treated very dispassionately, and not always in positive terms toward Trump. He comes up, because he just happens to the be the President right now.

I guess a question for me would be, if someone shows support, appreciation, or even admiration for Trump does that emotionally trigger some people?

In my experience, it does.

Another question occurs to me, why?

Why would a positive opinion of another person emotionally trigger another unrelated person?

This isn’t an invitation for people to start sharing their litanies of why they hate Trump.

I’m more interested in the mechanism.

Why would another person’s positive emotion trigger a negative emotion in some people?

This doesn’t just happen in regards to Trump. He’s just an example. It’s a part of what I call the larger human condition.

Human nature in part, and conditioning/programming also in part.

I consider that both idealizing (idolizing) and demonizing a person strips that person of their humanity.

Both are very dehumanizing.

Each creates a caricature of the human being, which has nothing to do with the real live person being either idealized, or demonized.

To me they are two sides of the same leaf. They seem to travel very closely together.

Also, appreciating, admiring, and supporting a person is NOT the same thing as idealizing them, or putting them on a pedestal.

Sometimes people try to make them the same.

There’s a word for that, but I can’t think of it right now? When people equate something as the same when they aren't?


Have you ever noticed that when someone is put on a pedestal, sooner or later, people want to knock that person off that pedestal? Very often by the people who put that person there in the first place.

This is the double edged blade of fame and celebrity.

I’ve noticed this a lot in alternative media, too. It seems to me that people eat their own.

It’s much easier to find fault and destroy than to appreciate and build/create.

Literally, … it takes less energy, focus and effort to do the first than the latter.

I wonder if the second example you gave triggers that idea or feeling that someone is being idealized, and all the emotions that go with that?



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(Note added: the link for the OODA Loop above clicks to the Q Analysis thread, which presently is quarantined within the membership only part of the forum. Here's a link to a wiki article about OODA LOOP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop). Essentially, it's a model for people's decision cycle. In military strategy, when someone gets inside another person's OODA Loop, or decision cycle, they can disrupt and unbalance them, which allows that person to better control the situation.)

[edina]

Responding to Gracy May's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323906&viewfull=1#post1323906).
The first part was here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323923&viewfull=1#post1323923).
The second part is here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1324002&viewfull=1#post1324002)



Well heres part of the problem as I see it Edina. For example FOX News commentary plays a very big roll on Q threads, and whether FOX cares to admit it or not, whether Q fans care to admit it or not, FOX is msm lumped right in there with the rest of them.

Which is where a sizeable portion of the continuing great divide is happening. Liberal media vs. Conservative media, "the president is a treasonous Putin lover" vs. "the president is the fourth turning hero here to save the day and Make America Great Again".




In my mind, it’s more of a human nature issue. Which makes this a really big topic, and one reason why I feel it’s important.


Emotionally HOT language or emotionally charged language elicits an emotional reaction, almost unconsciously. It triggers certain centers in the brain.

Marketing and media use this because it traps a person’s attention. In a way it gets inside a person’s OODA Loop.

Many people call it click bait.

To connect this to the the bigger situation.

I imagine that most of the people reading this probably already know about emotional triggers.

I first came across this concept of “emotional triggers” as an instructor for a Leadership School when I was in the Air Force, back in the 80’s.

The Leadership School is phase 3 of a 5 phase program of Professional Military Education, or PME. It’s designed to help airman make the transition from being line workers to supervisors.

The area of the curriculum for which I was responsible was communications.

The term “emotional trigger” is typically associated with psychology, or PTSD, therapy from abuse. And so on.

But I learned about the idea in terms of communication, and how emotional triggers can derail the communication process.

Emotions are essentially hormones released in the body that affect the body. Emotions can get triggered very often without our conscious awareness.

During the time I was learning about "emotional triggers", the concept came in real handy, when I found people reacting to me in surprising ways when I used the word, "meditation".

Here in Avalon, that word would probably not elicit an emotional response. But during that time, among a certain group of people it triggered huge emotional responses. People in that group had been taught to fear the word, in their mind it was associated with devil worship. So, when I used that word, they reacted. Very intensely.

With this understanding, I was able to adapt my language so that they didn't become so emotionally triggered. That's not always a solution.

Over time, I've learned to observe myself, and catch myself before I get emotionally triggered. Sometimes, I'll find myself accidentally using HOT language when I write. I usually catch it on the edit.

It's a skill set, and a learning process.

I sort of alluded to emotional triggers connection to media and marketing in my earlier comment.

The media, by inducing people into an emotionally agitated state, via emotional triggers, (ie using hot emotional language) can disrupt and unbalance the population.

Media and marketing know all about this, and have for a long time.

This is one of the mechanisms used to manipulate people into a state of perceived division and churn up actual division.

I suspect, based on some things mentioned by Q and from watching Trump, and a few others, that there will be a process to eventually address the broken parts of our media system.

Until then though, as individuals, we can't control what the media does.

However, we have the opportunity to learn about ourselves.

We have the opportunity to grow in self awareness and self control, become aware of how we may be getting emotionally triggered, and choose to not be triggered.

This is a part of soul or spiritual growth to me. Emotional maturity. Spiritual maturity. Energetic maturity.

Most of the nefarious plans in the works against humanity depend on keeping humans in an emotionally reactive state.

If humans can be kept reactive, emotionally triggered, then we are more readily manipulated and controlled.

When I read your comments about the "continuing great divide..." I thought of this.

This whole big cascade of thought processes.

The manufactured division isn't just liberal/conservative. Right now there are so many of these operations running that it's literally like an attempt for a massive fracturing of humanity.

Learning how to recognize when we are emotionally triggered and very quickly coming back into a state of calm and balance is one of the primary skill sets that a person can learn to counterbalance these forces for division, imo.

It can also help prevent breakdowns in communication.

[edina]

Responding to Gracy May's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323906&viewfull=1#post1323906).
The first part was here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1323923&viewfull=1#post1323923).
The second part is here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1324002&viewfull=1#post1324002)
The third part is here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109191-Q-posting-about-Project-Looking-Glass&p=1324008&viewfull=1#post1324008).


I have no problem with Q encouraging people to do their own research,


Thank you.


but, it's also entirely possible for people to look into this stuff without Q, as has been done here on this very forum and others much farther back than October 2017.

I agree.

I’ve been looking into this stuff since the 90’s. The first time I ever came across the term, “Deep State” was back in 2014, when I read the paper I linked in an earlier post.

I’ve been aware of some of these issues since I was teenager in the 70’s.

And I had a personal experience in the 80’s that made me question the media in general. I’ve been watching the pattern of media propaganda and narrative steering/social engineering ever since.

As you can imagine, since I’ve been at this for so long, I’ve done tons of research on a wide range of topics long before Trump was president or Q started sharing posts in late 2017.

But that’s me. Many of the autists on the chan boards make my research skills looks like I’m still in elementary school.

Every one has their personal stories as to why they are drawn to one arena versus another.

I feel and think it’s important for people to trust their own instincts and intuition on this.


One may be armed with all the useful information in the world, but if they are also convinced that simply destroying their perceived political enemy will say, end the pedophile problem, well then now we have another problem on our hands.

Maybe some people believe that?

I don’t know.

But in my experience that is not the common mindset of people in general. And it’s especially not the general mindset of people who have been looking at this issue seriously, whether through the Q posts, the previous Pizzagate researchers, or some of the newish researchers on the topic.

It’s an incredibly complex issue. And the conversations around this issue reflect that fact, in my opinion.

It’s a process, and a huge learning curve for just about anyone looking at this issue.


We also learn what red flags (aka warning signs) look like. One big one for me is that something big is always just around the corner, just be patient for a little longer, a little longer, almost there, almost there...

Another one is the lure of "be a part of something special, the inside group with the inside scoop".

Yep those are red flags for me, too.

I especially see the … something big around the corner, with Extinction Level Events disinformation, and ET Disclosure.

I have other red flags, too.

In the Q movement, this hasn’t really been the case.

Earlier, it was like a educational process.

Lately, it’s been more like trying to set realistic expectations because of how long it can take the investigations to happen.

And also encouraging people that get discouraged or frustrated with the process.

There is a war-like situation going on in the background. At this point, people don't need Q posts to see that.

There are people invested in thwarting the release of the IG reports and stopping the investigations.

And the Q movement is not exclusive, not for just a few, or special insiders.
It's open, inclusive,… for anyone who wants and chooses to participate.

We had 93 days of dark, with no Q posts. But the Q community stayed connected, focused and continued to research and share our research.

Some choose not to participate.

That’s a personal choice.

But it’s not because someone is trying to exclude anyone.

That only the special can participate???

Naw , this movement is wide open and growing… it’s huge.


My hunch about the Looking Glass comment is that a good deal of alternative media is being played as sort of an experiment, a potential breeding ground, a beta test if you will of what may well work in a larger setting, and how would it be done.

Sort of like how our own private information is collected, repackaged, and sent back to us for various forms of manipulation, monetary gain, social conditioning, divide and conquer, what have you.

Let's watch and see if that one has legs and, what may come of it from there.

It’s good to come back to the topic of Looking Glass. Thank you.

That’s the intended topic of the original post.

Your ideas have merit.

I imagine that ALL media is being played as a sort of experiment.

Our entire culture is being observed, measured, monitored, …

To what end is hard to say.

Some may be for our benefit.

Most seem driven by profit.

And some to our demise.

As for the reference to Looking Glass?

I’m still in observation mode, which means I’m not ready to make a decision just yet.

I require more information … :sun:

[edina]

Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation (LANL, 1982) mentioned in Mountain Jims post is tech that is used to look into vehicles or buildings for people or contraband. Similar to Back Scatter X-Ray it will show up things that are hidden without having to say unload the whole banana truck to know there are humans hiding in the middle.

This is how certain tech that govt and law enforcement would rather not be too open about is given a cover story. There may well be more than one Project Looking Glass, but to see into the future? really? Predictive Programming much? The Lone Gunman pilot 'special' and 8 months later 911 happened!

BTW Bill Brockbrader aka Wood is featured by actual Navy Seal. Don Shipley and is a total fraud. (and worse) I saw a YT where he admitted to a court judge his Camelot stuff was all lies. This is all very easy to find if you spend 2 mins on it.

ALICE is the AI program that subverts public opinion. Alice is also a code word for Hillary Clinton. ALICE would have you believe Alice would win in 2016 with a 97% chance. ALICE takes real public opinion and spins it into what the CIA want it to be. I can see Hillary asking the magic mirror on the wall who will win in 2016? It tells her that she will because it doesn't want an ash tray thrown through it!

Dan B told us HRC would win according to their LG. It failed twice! Or maybe it is all BS and they were just trying to prepare the public for the steal. But stealing a landslide is so very difficult and that is why they failed. That is why during the campaign Trump said 'We need a landslide folks or this ain't gonna work'. He got the landslide and the DNC fireworks display was cancelled! They had already started popping the corks on the Champagne! Yes they really are that megalomaniacal. Completely out of touch with reality.

The 4am talking points for the day put out by the CIA for the MSM to peddle and spew forth is also not real public opinion. Most of us know this already (that the MSM is fake) but surely nobody has any excuse to be ignorant of this after the 2016 election in the USA. That was even more blatant than 911!

56 sec YT clip to cheer you up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcaNY5eBWw

KiwiElf shared this diagram with me:

ALICE & Wonderland are also on those S4 Project Looking Glass Diagrams. Click to enlarge to full size: "S4 Alice's Floor"

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Caption of the Rabbit emphasized in red reads:

A STUFFED "ALICE IN WONDERLAND" RABBIT IS PERMANENTLY MOUNTED ABOVE THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROJECT LOOKING GLASS ROOM
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Looking at this diagram brings to mind Henry Deacon's description of his experience in going to Mars?

Just popping this here, to see how it evolves.

[Jayke]

I first came across this concept of “emotional triggers” as an instructor for a Leadership School when I was in the Air Force, back in the 80’s.

The Leadership School is phase 3 of a 5 phase program of Professional Military Education, or PME. It’s designed to help airman make the transition from being line workers to supervisors.

The area of the curriculum for which I was responsible was communications.

Never realised you’d been in the military, Edina! Pretty cool! :cool:

Wyatt Woodsmall (https://anlp.org/wyatt-woodsmall) was one of Clare Graves students. He was influential in the early days of NLP and it’s formation. As one of the main NLP guys who taught a lot of the Advanced Behavioural Modelling and linguistic pattern systems to the Government, military and intelligence communities; he was in the Project Advisory Group (PAG) for the development of the “Strategic Intelligence Analysis Handbook". He also introduced most of the values systems/meta-program type techniques into the NLP community.

The Cognitive Basis of Intelligence Analysis (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c1bd/497e9ef68ba268be5cc7240c0486f7d7f4c0.pdf) (US army Research Institute for the Behavioural and Social Sciences, Jan 1984).

Thierry Meyssan has done an Interesting article on propoganda recently:
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https://www.voltairenet.org/article208229.html




Propaganda and Post-Truth
by Thierry Meyssan

For 18 years, we have been debating the strange evolution of the media, which seems to place less and less value on facts. We attribute this phenomenon to their democratization through social networks. It would be because from now on any person can become a journalist, that the quality of information would have collapsed. The right to speak should therefore be reserved for the elites.
What if it’s exactly the opposite? If the censorship we are considering was not the answer to the phenomenon, but its continuity?

Propaganda

In political systems where Power needs the participation of the People, the purpose of propaganda is to get as many people as possible to adhere to a particular ideology and to mobilize them to apply it.

The methods used to convince are the same whether one is acting in good or bad faith. However, in the 20th century, the use of lies and repetition, the elimination of different points of view, and recruitment into mass organizations were first theorized by British MP Charles Masterman, US journalist George Creel and especially German minister Joseph Goebbels with the devastating consequences that we know [1]. This is why, at the end of the two World Wars, the United Nations General Assembly adopted three resolutions condemning the use of deliberate lies in the media to provoke war and enjoining Member States to ensure the free flow of ideas, the only prevention of intoxication [2].

While propaganda techniques have been perfected over the past 75 years and are systematically used in all international conflicts, they are gradually giving way to new techniques of influence in countries at peace: it is no longer a question of making the public adhere to an ideology and act in the service of power, but on the contrary of dissuading it from intervening, paralysing it.

This strategy corresponds to a so-called "democratic" organization of society where the public has the capacity to sanction Power, which was rarely the case before.

It has spread over the past 18 years with the "War on Terror". Many intellectuals have stressed the absurdity of this expression: terrorism is not an enemy, it is a military technique. However, we cannot wage war on war. Even if we did not understand it at the time, the invention of this paradoxical expression was intended to institute the era of post-truth.

Post-truth

Let us take the example of the recent execution of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. We all know that a helicopter squad cannot fly low across northern Syria without being seen by the population or spotted by Russian air defence systems. The narrative that is told to us is clearly impossible. However, far from questioning what we consider propaganda, we are discussing whether the Caliph, cornered by the US Special Forces, blew himself up with two or three children.

At other times, we would have agreed that an essential element of this story being impossible, we cannot take seriously the other elements that are before us, starting with the death of the Caliph. Now we think otherwise. We accept that this factual element has been falsified, a priori for reasons of national security, and we consider the rest of the narrative as authentic. In the long run, we will forget our concern with this or other elements and publish encyclopedias that will tell this beautiful story with its most unlikely elements.

In other words, we instinctively understand that this narrative does not tell facts, but conveys a message. We are therefore not positioning ourselves in the face of the facts, but in the face of the message as we have understood it: as Osama bin Laden, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was executed; Power remains in the United States of America.

To move our consciousness from facts to message, speech writers have an obligation to deliver an inconsistent narrative. It is not an unfortunate mistake on their part that is repeated, but a technical requirement of their work.

In classical propaganda, the aim was to tell coherent stories, if necessary by concealing certain facts or falsifying them. Not anymore. Because we no longer try to convince with beautiful stories, if necessary by getting comfortable with reality. But we are addressing an intermediate state of consciousness through which we convey messages. We are aware that this helicopter affair is impossible, but we can reason by eliminating it from our field of consciousness. A part of our intellect has been inhibited.

We lie to ourselves.

We can find a very large number of examples of the use of this packaging technique in recent years. All those I could mention will make most of my readers nervous because each example requires us to recognize that we have been fooled with our own complicity. We hate to have our mistakes pointed out to us.

A small example anyway. It is ancient, but fundamental. It still plays a vital role today. During the attacks of September 11, airlines immediately published complete boarding lists of passengers and personnel who had died. Two days later, the FBI Director presented his account of the 19 hijackers who, in his opinion, had carried out the attacks. However, none of them, according to the airlines’ first-hand accounts, had boarded the four aircraft. His version is therefore impossible. Eighteen years later, however, we continue to discuss the personalities of these individuals.

Antidote

For the past 18 years, we have been told that by offering everyone the ability to express themselves on a blog or social networks, technological progress has devalued public speech. Anyone can say anything. In the past, only politicians and professional journalists had the opportunity to express themselves. They ensured the quality of their interventions and writings. Today the vulgum pecus, the ignorant crowd, takes bladders for lanterns and spreads fake news.

However, it is exactly the opposite. Leading politicians, starting with President George Bush Jr. and Prime Minister Tony Blair, have assumed inconsistent speeches to inhibit the reactions of the public in general and their constituents in particular. This technique substitutes absurdity for truth as others substituted lies. It has destroyed the functioning of the democratic systems that ordinary people are trying to restore with their means.

CRT televisions display 625-line images. It suffices that one of them be blurred for us to perceive so it alone in the image. On the same principle, it is enough to hear a single different point of view for the lies of omnipresent propaganda to be obvious. That is why propaganda, when it lies, requires relentless censorship. But if the lie introduces an inconsistency into the discourse so that this inconsistency becomes voluntarily obvious, alternative points of view should no longer be censored. On the contrary, we must let them express themselves and highlight them by publicly denouncing some of them as fake news.

The antidote to post-truth is not the verification of facts, this has always been the basis of the work of journalists and historians, it is the restoration of logic. This is why a new form of censorship is needed today. Most Facebook users have been logged out at one time or another. In countless cases, users are unable to understand why they have been censored. They search in vain for which prohibited word would have been detected by a computer, or which uncivil position would have been prohibited by a supervisor. In reality, what they are often accused of and arbitrarily sanctioned for is restoring logic to their reasoning.
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Funny that the project looking glass is associated with the white rabbit from Alice in wonderland. Since Alice in Wonderland is historically a tool of Monarch mindslave programming. Indicates to me project looking glass is a psychological technology based on deep insight and masses of data collected from the internet as a way to predict future human behaviour.

[edina]

Wyatt Woodsmall (https://anlp.org/wyatt-woodsmall) was one of Clare Graves students. He was influential in the early days of NLP and it’s formation. As one of the main NLP guys who taught a lot of the Advanced Behavioural Modelling and linguistic pattern systems to the Government, military and intelligence communities; he was in the Project Advisory Group (PAG) for the development of the “Strategic Intelligence Analysis Handbook". He also introduced most of the values systems/meta-program type techniques into the NLP community.

The Cognitive Basis of Intelligence Analysis (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c1bd/497e9ef68ba268be5cc7240c0486f7d7f4c0.pdf) (US army Research Institute for the Behavioural and Social Sciences, Jan 1984).

Thanks for these resources Jayke!

I enjoyed your earlier story about Abaham Maslow and Clare Graves. I have never heard that story before.
The Maslow Hierarchy of Needs was also a part of the Leadership School Curriculum.
Of course, this was back in the 80's.
Decades ago!!!
I have no idea what that curriculum is now.

There are a lot of quotable lines in the Thierry Meyssan article on propaganda.
I don't necessarily agree with his assumptions about helicopters.
Maybe he knows more about that topic than I do?

He raises some interesting points about propaganda.
I saved it as a pdf, to put in my Mockingbird Media folder.

I'm not certain I want to buy into the label of post-truth, it's the same with the label of post-modern.
I've been considering lately how the term "post-modern" may be a part of the social engineering/information operation on our culture.

These words//phrases slip into our vocabulary, usually through the intellectual class, and we often don't examine how they shape our thinking?


Funny that the project looking glass is associated with the white rabbit from Alice in wonderland. Since Alice in Wonderland is historically a tool of Monarch mindslave programming. Indicates to me project looking glass is a psychological technology based on deep insight and masses of data collected from the internet as a way to predict future human behaviour.

This description seems the most plausible to me, so far.

#MilitaryPrecision

[Ratszinger]

Wyatt Woodsmall (https://anlp.org/wyatt-woodsmall) was one of Clare Graves students. He was influential in the early days of NLP and it’s formation. As one of the main NLP guys who taught a lot of the Advanced Behavioural Modelling and linguistic pattern systems to the Government, military and intelligence communities; he was in the Project Advisory Group (PAG) for the development of the “Strategic Intelligence Analysis Handbook". He also introduced most of the values systems/meta-program type techniques into the NLP community.

The Cognitive Basis of Intelligence Analysis (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c1bd/497e9ef68ba268be5cc7240c0486f7d7f4c0.pdf) (US army Research Institute for the Behavioural and Social Sciences, Jan 1984).

Thanks for these resources Jayke!

I enjoyed your earlier story about Abaham Maslow and Clare Graves. I have never heard that story before.
The Maslow Hierarchy of Needs was also a part of the Leadership School Curriculum.
Of course, this was back in the 80's.
Decades ago!!!
I have no idea what that curriculum is now.

There are a lot of quotable lines in the Thierry Meyssan article on propaganda.
I don't necessarily agree with his assumptions about helicopters.
Maybe he knows more about that topic than I do?

He raises some interesting points about propaganda.
I saved it as a pdf, to put in my Mockingbird Media folder.

I'm not certain I want to buy into the label of post-truth, it's the same with the label of post-modern.
I've been considering lately how the term "post-modern" may be a part of the social engineering/information operation on our culture.

These words//phrases slip into our vocabulary, usually through the intellectual class, and we often don't examine how they shape our thinking?


Funny that the project looking glass is associated with the white rabbit from Alice in wonderland. Since Alice in Wonderland is historically a tool of Monarch mindslave programming. Indicates to me project looking glass is a psychological technology based on deep insight and masses of data collected from the internet as a way to predict future human behaviour.

This description seems the most plausible to me, so far.

#MilitaryPrecision

Abraham Maslow would agree here at least in part, as humans have stimulus needs and if deprived of sensory input for too long the mind begins to create it's own reality depending on and related to his theories on hierarchy of needs.


In his theory from 1943 titled, A Theory of Human Motivation and his later book from 1954 titled Motivation and Personality discuss and lay out the pyramid for his hierarchy of needs from the most fundamental of needs to the most advanced in the species development apexing at morality and creativity. https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html#:~:targetText=Maslow's%20hierarchy%20of%20needs%20is,hierarchical%20levels%20within%20a% 20pyramid.&targetText=From%20the%20bottom%20of%20the,esteem%2C%20and%20self%2Dactualization.

[edina]

Abraham Maslow would agree here at least in part, as humans have stimulus needs and if deprived of sensory input for too long the mind begins to create it's own reality depending on and related to his theories on hierarchy of needs.


In his theory from 1943 titled, A Theory of Human Motivation and his later book from 1954 titled Motivation and Personality discuss and lay out the pyramid for his hierarchy of needs from the most fundamental of needs to the most advanced in the species development apexing at morality and creativity. https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html#:~:targetText=Maslow's%20hierarchy%20of%20needs%20is,hierarchical%20levels%20within%20a% 20pyramid.&targetText=From%20the%20bottom%20of%20the,esteem%2C%20and%20self%2Dactualization.

I want to give you another Thank YOU, Ratszinger.
The page you linked is a tremendous resource for people to better understand Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Five thumbs up!!!!

:happythumbsup:

[Gracy]

So I reckon it comes back to basics for me.

I'm seeing a lot of good psychological evaluations on this whole thing, and that's all well and good normally but, it still comes down to "where's the beef" when it comes to the Batman/Robin type duo of Trump/Q.

I see a lot of rhetoric, but I see very little overall change.

Is the harvest really about to begin, are there really more suicide watches, and is DC (meaning the democrats) really in panic mode again?

JAVauRQ9qlw

Where's The Beef?

Show me the money.

[edina]

So I reckon it comes back to basics for me.

I'm seeing a lot of good psychological evaluations on this whole thing, and that's all well and good normally but, it still comes down to "where's the beef" when it comes to the Batman/Robin type duo of Trump/Q.

I see a lot of rhetoric, but I see very little overall change.

Is the harvest really about to begin, are there really more suicide watches, and is DC (meaning the democrats) really in panic mode again?

JAVauRQ9qlw

Where's The Beef?

Show me the money.

Perhaps this is were our perceptual processes differ. :)

I'm seeing movement, understandable and realistic movement, on events unfolding.

What specifically are you looking for that your not seeing?

[Gracy]

What specifically are you looking for that your not seeing?

Thank you for being so courteous Edina.

This is a basic one just to get the ball rolling.

Has US foreign policy really changed under our current president?

For the better that is?

[edina]

What specifically are you looking for that your not seeing?

Thank you for being so courteous Edina.

This is a basic one just to get the ball rolling.

Has US foreign policy really changed under our current president?

For the better that is?

I see it in a flux right now.

It's definitely not "status quo".

Which is one reason why Trump is under such an assault from the political elite and their media proxies.

I'm encouraged that we're NOT in WWIII right now.

I felt that was definitely on the political elites' agenda, or perhaps the criminal element of the political elite.

I see the situation with the trade agreements a little different than I hear most pundits talk about.

This is probably because I came across a particular blogger who shared information about the Triffin Dilemma (https://philosophyofmetrics.com/wp-content/plugins/pdfjs-viewer-shortcode/pdfjs/web/viewer.php?file=https://philosophyofmetrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/The-Economic-Transition-Papers-Re-Engineering-the-Dollar.pdf&download=false&print=false&openfile=false).

He foresaw what we are presently seeing before it started happening because of his understanding of this dilemma.

The renegotiated agreements are necessary to help rebalance national accounts as we move from a unipolar system to a multipolar system.

I also see Trump and his administration working quietly in the background with other nations to address the issues that many people are concerned about regarding corruption.

This shift in focus on foreign policy is in motion. And there are some very entrenched players who benefited from the way things were resisting his efforts.

It's too soon for me to say if it's for the better, or not. I'm still in observer mode on that point.

I'm watching signs for a switch from fiat currency to asset-backed basket of currencies.

I'm also trying to educate myself more about that as well, and about money reform in general. (https://philosophyofmetrics.com/wp-content/plugins/pdfjs-viewer-shortcode/pdfjs/web/viewer.php?file=https://philosophyofmetrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/The-Economic-Transition-Papers-Re-Engineering-the-Dollar.pdf&download=false&print=false&openfile=false)

I'm not sure if your looking for what I'm observing or for something entirely different.

How about you, what are your thoughts about foreign policy?

Did you know that President Trump is NOT a member of the Council of Foreign Affairs?

And I don't think he has ever been invited to a Bilderberg meeting?

He's definitely not one of the "Davos" crowd. :)

[edina]

So I reckon it comes back to basics for me.

I'm seeing a lot of good psychological evaluations on this whole thing, and that's all well and good normally but, it still comes down to "where's the beef" when it comes to the Batman/Robin type duo of Trump/Q.

I see a lot of rhetoric, but I see very little overall change.

Is the harvest really about to begin, are there really more suicide watches, and is DC (meaning the democrats) really in panic mode again?

JAVauRQ9qlw

Where's The Beef?

Show me the money.

Perhaps this is were our perceptual processes differ. :)

I'm seeing movement, understandable and realistic movement, on events unfolding.

What specifically are you looking for that your not seeing?

There is a clip of the recent Attorney General Barr talk at the Federalist Society in this particular X22 Report.

I found it quite educational.

For people who would be interested in seeing the whole speech.

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In watching this talk I learned some history I didn't know.

For example, there was an earlier, failed attempt at a Republic in France.

AG Barr gave what I feel is probably a historic talk at Notre Dame last week, too.

AG Barr: Attack on Western Values / Faith 2019 Notre Dame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2EbW5F113Y)

He raised some interesting points and issues in this talk.

I've downloaded the transcripts of both talks for further study.
Attorney General William P. Barr Delivers Remarks to the Law School and the de Nicola Center for Ethics and Culture at the University of Notre Dame (https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-william-p-barr-delivers-remarks-law-school-and-de-nicola-center-ethics)

Attorney General William P. Barr Delivers the 19th Annual Barbara K. Olson Memorial Lecture at the Federalist Society's 2019 National Lawyers Convention (https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-william-p-barr-delivers-19th-annual-barbara-k-olson-memorial-lecture)

[Gracy]

Did you know that President Trump is NOT a member of the Council of Foreign Affairs?

I'm assumining you meant Council on Foreign Relations? But anyway I'm not so sure if that matters any more or not.


And I don't think he has ever been invited to a Bilderberg meeting?


Again, is this a litmus test for guilty vs. innocent? Which part of "the club" someone belongs to?

Show me evidence our foreign wars, the coups, the starvation sanctions, the drone strikes, the mass surveillance, etc., are slowing down.

Consider me the apostle Thomas. Don't tell me, show me. :)

[edina]

Did you know that President Trump is NOT a member of the Council of Foreign Affairs?

I'm assumining you meant Council on Foreign Relations? But anyway I'm not so sure if that matters any more or not.


And I don't think he has ever been invited to a Bilderberg meeting?


Again, is this a litmus test for guilty vs. innocent? Which part of "the club" someone belongs to?

Show me evidence our foreign wars, the coups, the starvation sanctions, the drone strikes, the mass surveillance, etc., are slowing down.

Consider me the apostle Thomas. Don't tell me, show me. :)

Why? Are you asking me to prove something to you?

I've made it a point to check out these potential relationships for a while now.

Just information, ... It's meaningful to me.

Doesn't mean that it has to be meaningful to you.

[Gracy]

Consider me the apostle Thomas. Don't tell me, show me. :)


Why? Are you asking me to prove something to you?


Yes, that's the whole point Edina, is there something y'all can actually show me that's different from before 2016?

Something of any substance?

[edina]

Again, is this a litmus test for guilty vs. innocent? Which part of "the club" someone belongs to?

Again?

Have you mentioned this to me before and I missed it?

[edina]

Consider me the apostle Thomas. Don't tell me, show me. :)


Why? Are you asking me to prove something to you?


Yes, that's the whole point Edina, is there something y'all can actually show me that's different from before 2016?

Something of any substance?

Ahhh... thanks Gracy May.

No that's NOT the whole point to me.

It's the whole point for you.

So, obviously this is important to you.

Why don't you go first.

Share your substance.

Answer all those questions you asked me, with your source links.

My focus, regarding what I'm looking at from the Q posts (https://qmap.pub/) has been on the ongoing investigations, the IG Report and so on.

If you want more information on those topics, let me know.

[Gracy]

Consider me the apostle Thomas. Don't tell me, show me. :)


Why? Are you asking me to prove something to you?


Yes, that's the whole point Edina, is there something y'all can actually show me that's different from before 2016?

Something of any substance?

Ahhh... thanks Gracy May.

No that's NOT the whole point to me.

It's the whole point for you.

So, obviously this is important to you.

Why don't you go first.

Share your substance.

Answer all those questions you asked me, with your source links.

This points to the heart of the problem Edina. I'm not offering any substance here, I'm asking for substance. Why is this being turned around on me?

The big claim is that Trump/Q are in the process of tearing down the DS, and I, along with many others, are wondering where the evidence is. It's really quite a simple basic question.

What is the problem with asking for evidence after 25 months of this?

This thread is back out in public for you to state the big case for Q, to silence the ignorant critics once and for all, so lay it out for all to see.

Show me where Trump/Q have DS panicked and on the run. My mind is always open to change, so change it with cash on the barrel. Please, demonstrate what I'm apparently so blind to.

Or, we could just drop it again as with Jayke, either is okay with me.

[AutumnW]

Does anybody know where the troops who were pulled out of Syria are currently stationed?
Does the Qcrowd follow Pompao's recent proclamation (and reversal of decades long censure by UN and U.S) that the West Bank settlements under Israel are, in fact, legal?

My best guess and worst fear is that Trump is paving the way for Pence and a theocratic fascist state. The idea that he is all for multi-polarity is so outrageous and wtf, it's hard to fathom anyone can believe it. Guess what happens to the purchasing power of the dollar if that happens...and that's just for starters.

The big reveal will come soon enough. If Trump manages to get through the next election, the military will be even more entrenched in power. Scary.

If Q has something worthwhile to say that he or she or they didn't grab from the Internet, let them state it precisely. If they don't state it precisely, it becomes subject to interpretation, emotion, hopes and dreams....Those who reject it, on those grounds, aren't naive. They understand the game and won't play.

[Jayke]

Consider me the apostle Thomas. Don't tell me, show me. :)


Why? Are you asking me to prove something to you?


Yes, that's the whole point Edina, is there something y'all can actually show me that's different from before 2016?

Something of any substance?

Ahhh... thanks Gracy May.

No that's NOT the whole point to me.

It's the whole point for you.

So, obviously this is important to you.

Why don't you go first.

Share your substance.

Answer all those questions you asked me, with your source links.

This points to the heart of the problem Edina. I'm not offering any substance here, I'm asking for substance. Why is this being turned around on me?

The big claim is that Trump/Q are in the process of tearing down the DS, and I, along with many others, are wondering where the evidence is. It's really quite a simple basic question.

What is the problem with asking for evidence after 25 months of this?

This thread is back out in public for you to state the big case for Q, to silence the ignorant critics once and for all, so lay it out for all to see.

Show me where Trump/Q have DS panicked and on the run. My mind is always open to change, so change it with cash on the barrel. Please, demonstrate what I'm apparently so blind to.

Or, we could just drop it again as with Jayke, either is okay with me.

Hey, you were the one that backed out of that conversation. I’m still ready to go when you’re ready for answering the last questions I asked you.

I posted evidence of positive developments surrounding Trumps manoeuvres in the Middle East on the Incredibly Significant Presidential Statement (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108893-Incredibly-significant-presidential-statement&p=1319312&highlight=Hussain#post1319312) thread. Hussain Askary is a man on the ground in Syria — and in the Middle East — and is as close to a direct witness testimony as anyone is going to get for geopolitical developments in that area. If you don’t consider this evidence enough that positive changes are occurring, what else do you need to see in order to be convinced? How do you know when ‘evidence’ is good or worthwhile?



The video posted by Jayke at post #32 above is very significant and highly revealing from Richard Black who is clearly a person "in-the-know" about the various events that have occurred and the involvement of of the US over recent years in Syria. I thought that when he mentioned the intervention of John Bolton countermanding a direct order from the POTUS on troop withdrawal without repercussion to be highly significant. Maybe this does indicate that there are conflicts and power struggles at the highest levels relating to US Foreign policy.
Perhaps Trump is now free to act more decisively since he removed Bolton from post.

There was a follow up interview published today with Hussain Askary, who is the Iraqi editor of the Executive Intelligence Review (EIR) (https://store.larouchepub.com/Subscriptions-s/1820.htm) for the Asian continent, and who conducts studies for the viability of opening the One Belt, One Road initiative (https://larouchepac.com/20160829/new-silk-road-becomes-world-land-bridge-tour) into Syria. With contacts in Turkey, Syria, China and India, the picture he paints of the opportunities that have opened up with Trumps latest manoeuvre is really very positive. Especially towards the end where they show government endorsed plans (for the various territories involved) for blooming the desert and creating major green belt agricultural zones to bring prosperity to areas previously devastated by war.

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Hussein Askary, author of Extending the New Silk Road to West Asia and Africa: A Vision of an Economic Renaissance, and member of the Schiller Institute, discusses the breakthrough developments leading up to and in the aftermath of President Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria. Askary lays out the interests at hand, and the consequences of this bold move, which were obviously coordinated with President Putin of Russia and regional players in the Middle East.

[edina]

I'm going to share this post that mj shared in the Q Analysis thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1324255&viewfull=1#post1324255), in full, because I think the people who are engaged in this thread probably care about this and would want to know about it.



I would really like to see a prez with guts veto this ongoing unconstitutional travesty

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/017/477/087/original/a8c2b6a9f9a78255.png?1574181801

What's encouraging about this is that is was tweeted/retweeted by two congressman, Thomas Massie and Jim Jordan.

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1196750084651782144

In order for this to happen there needs to a groundswell of public support to offset the forces that wouldn't want the Patriot Act rescinded.

Rep Jim Jordan is under a lot of media attacks these days.

I expect to see the same happen to Rep Thomas Massie, soon.

Similar to what just recently happened to Rep Elise Stefanik (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/16/after-rep-elise-stefanik-highlights-ambassador-yovanovitch-false-statement-stefanik-becomes-a-target/).

The timing of these tweets are also curious. (10 hours ago)


White House switchboard at 202-456-1414 or the comments line at 202-456-1111 during business hours.

Alternatively, you may phone the United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office you request.

https://www.house.gov/

https://www.house.gov/representatives

It's seems we have a very short time to act on this.

[edina]

Just for FUN ...

Another curious connection courtesy of I E T (https://twitter.com/incarcerated_et), regarding the Project Looking Glass Q (https://www.exopolitics.org/project-looking-glass-the-q-anon-deep-state-temporal-war/) post 3585 (https://qmap.pub/read/3585)

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:cantina: (https://www.exopolitics.org/project-looking-glass-the-q-anon-deep-state-temporal-war/)

Time (https://qanon.pub/?q=time%20) is on our side ...
... only a matter of time (https://qanon.pub/?q=time%20)

[edina]

Speaking of time, someone shared recently the numbers of people researching at QMap (https://qmap.pub/) comparing a year ago to now
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https://twitter.com/MastersShelby/status/1198833387898843137

That is quite a "crowd (https://www.epsilontheory.com/harvey-weinstein-common-knowledge-game/)" of people.


Well, it’s a matter of private knowledge becoming common knowledge. An understanding that until recently was shared only by a small percentage of people is now starting to be adopted by the masses.

This is a very powerful transformation that often leads to swift changes in the status quo. Ben Hunt of Epsilon Theory explains this phenomenon very well:



The core dynamic of the Common Knowledge Game is this: how does private knowledge become — not public knowledge — but common knowledge? Common knowledge is something that we all believe everyone else believes. Common knowledge is usually also public knowledge, but it doesn’t have to be. It may still be private information, locked inside our own heads. But so long as we believe that everyone else believes this trapped piece of private information, that’s enough for it to become common knowledge.

The reason this dynamic — the transformation of private knowledge into common knowledge — is so important is that the social behavior of individuals does not change on the basis of private knowledge, no matter how pervasive it might be. Even if everyone in the world believes a certain piece of private information, no one will alter their behavior. Behavior changes ONLY when we believe that everyone else believes the information. THAT’S what changes behavior. And when that transition to common knowledge happens, behavior changes fast.


It’s not what the crowd believes. It’s what the crowd believes that the crowd believes. The power of a crowd seeing a crowd (https://www.epsilontheory.com/sheep-logic/) is one of the most awesome forces in human society.

[BMJ]

Meeting with Dan Burisch on 10 December, 2007

Quote:
"We have kept this fully confidential. The information contained intelligence data about probable future events which was gained through a high-tech investigation into possible and probable future timelines. The device used was known as the Orion Cube."

Link: http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html

And the twitter post which inspired this post.

Note one was deliberately misspelt to read WON (as in this battle between dark and light).

https://twitter.com/VincentCrypt46/status/1142068170880167936

P.S. As a background to Vincent Kennedy on twitter. Vincent Fusca morphed into Vincent Kennedy and now is asking the question via this twitter post

https://twitter.com/Time4U2Know/status/1077971786627731456

Hi Edina,
Regarding your post above #68, that song POTUS Trump plays at the end of his rallies was / is John John's favourite song whom was / is very good friends with POTUS Trump


Just for FUN ...

Which relates to this thread, Re: Is JFK Jr Still Alive?
Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103683-Is-JFK-Jr-Still-Alive

[mountain_jim]

This one looks like an interesting compilation (posted at Neon's Gab)

(includes Burisch Project Camelot content, Andrew Basagio Project Pegasus vid fragments, etc., so viewer discretion advised)



Where We Go 1 We Go All

Through The Looking Glass ...and Beyond

Sit back and relax as I take you on a journey of what has basically consumed my life for the past 3+ weeks. I got to revisit many old rabbit holes and add them to new ones of the past few years and had a lot of fun doing so! This is one of my more theoretical videos so not all of it of course is certain but I will say that after looking into everything I am a good 90% sold


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later edit - I had never heard of the Baron Trump novels, or them being a response to Alice In Wonderland, and many of the connections this video creator makes with Q posts, Hillary, time devices, etc.



The Baron Trump novels are two children's novels written in 1889 and 1893 by the American author and lawyer Ingersoll Lockwood. They remained obscure until 2017, when they received media attention for perceived similarities between their protagonist and U.S. President Donald Trump .


The Last President - eerily similar to Trump in events description....

The graphics are well produced -this video is imagination stimulating!