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onawah
16th November 2019, 05:39
I really messed up my right ankle yesterday, spent too much time on it when it was already challenged, and it seems I may have torn a ligament or something like that.
I went to the local ER today and got an Xray; no broken bones, but the doctor said he could see that the arthritis is pretty bad in that leg, which does the most work since my other leg was badly injured years ago.

Back home now, I can barely move, can't put weight on it, even with my crutches I have very limited mobility, and I live alone, so don't have anyone to help.
Hopefully I can get some help after the weekend, but I don't think any efforts will succeed before that.
I am told icing it will help, but it's so cold here now (winter came 2 months early this year to the Ozarks, as elsewhere), I'm afraid if I do that, I'll end up with a cold as well.
I have not been taking any pain pills, though I have a prescription and some on hand.
I try to avoid doing that, relying instead on supplements, healthy diet, clean living, etc.
But I may have to resort to pills, because I don't think I will be able to sleep at all otherwise.
Please send healing if you can, and any prayers, all of which will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much :heart:
Best wishes,
Natalie

Cara
16th November 2019, 05:49
Dearest Natalie,

My thoughts and prayers are on their way to you :heart:. May your body receive all it needs to be well.

~ Cara

onawah
16th November 2019, 05:53
Thank you Cara! :flower:

enfoldedblue
16th November 2019, 06:15
Sending love your way Natalie ❤❤❤❤. Have you tried borax....I know many swear by it for any arthritic conditions...it has sorted out my thumb.

Hope you feel better soon.

Big hug ❤

Sue (Ayt)
16th November 2019, 06:40
Oh my, Natalie, I went through the same kind of thing this past summer with my knee. R.I.C.E. (rest, ice, compression, elevation) actually did help me. I used high dose ibuprofen for the pain for a week, and it took the inflammation down. Like you, I had to use crutches for 2 or 3 weeks. And a rub with frankincense oil, magnesium spray, and Penetrex really helped the pain too. Once on the mend, I added several supplements to help heal.

Natalie - beside my prayers sent, it might be possible that we live close enough here in the Ozarks that I could offer some assistance? I am totally healed up now, and would be glad to help. You can message me. :flower:

Delight
16th November 2019, 06:45
Sending my surge of concern and care your way. I LOVE YOU !! I know this may sound trivial but have you tried holding your ankle for a really long time while you focus on love and healing and praise for its wholeness? I worked in a grocery deli and one day fell on my knees on concrete while carrying a heavy tray. I sat and held my knees for about 15 minutes. There was no pain or bruising. It did hurt at first but while holding my knees the pain left.

I also recommend this technique. Actually I have used it for so long that it may be what I used about my knees?


Inner Body Awakening –
This is an enjoyable, easy and comforting method for becoming more aware of our Inner Body. The Inner Body also known as the Etheric Body is an exact duplicate of our ideal physical body. This Etheric Body is what leaves our physical bodies when we have an out of body experience or pass on to our next existance. The Inner Body is what creates, feeds, and heals our physicalbodies. Contacting and truly feeling and inhabiting this Inner Body assists in us being comfortable in and being able to relax & enjoy our bodies. People have reported whole new relationships and healings with their bodies by doing just this simple method.

Our bodies are miracle healing machines. How do the cells know where to stop growing when healing a wound or a cut? How can our bodies so perfectly rebuild themselves?

There is an ‘Inner Body’ an energy etheric blueprint that the physical cells are being directed by when healing or replacing cells. Cancer is an obvious time when the ‘blueprint’ is no longer instructing the cells when to stop growing and they are replicating out of order.

This ‘Etheric Body’ is the body we astral travel in when we have ‘out of body experiences’. It is also the ‘perfected body’ that leaves us at death. It’s the ageless beautiful ideal body that we have in ‘heaven’. Wow, sounds good doesn’t it? Why can’t we have this body here and now?

WE CAN…if we actively connect and contact our Inner body we can assist and co-operate with our bodies at a much higher level. Most of us today simply allow the body to do what it does unconsciously, outside of our awareness. The body performs – digestion, cell repair, healing, cleaning, lymphatic system circulation, heart beat, etc. without us being consciously aware of it. But there are Yogi’s that can stop their hearts, cease their breathing, do ‘miraculous’ healings and they are in conscious awareness of their bodies’ inner functions. The Inner Body Awakeningmethod helps us to become more in touch with our inner bodies. It will keep us healthier, looking and feeling younger, and it feels really good. But careful because if this gets around we’ll start putting the cosmetics companies out of business!

METHOD:
- Feel your hands, feel each finger, each finger tip, the palm, the top, every detail, feel the energy of your hands. Feel the Inner body blueprint start to energize, tingle, vibrate in your hands. Feel your ‘inner hands’. Now do the same with your feet. Feel the Energy Body of your feet. In reflexology we have pressure points in our hands and feet that connect with all the rest of our bodies, including our internal organs. This is why we start with our hands and feet when connecting to our Inner Energy Etheric Body.

-When you have connected with your inner hands and feet slowly let this awareness of your Inner Body spread to the rest of your body. Just let it come, let it happen. Don’t push it. Just ‘notice’, just ‘sense’ yourinner body. Keep allowing this.

-Image in (imagine) the body you would love, that would feel good to you. Let it form in your imagination.

- now feel as if this perfect-comfortable-enjoyable body is inside you, just under the surface of your physical body. Feel it as a ‘perfect blueprint’ of your body.

-eventually you may find your whole body ‘pulsing’, ‘vibrating’, ‘humming’ with your attention on the Inner body.

-Let yourself ‘bathe’ in this Inner Body energy for as long as you feel comfortable.

Suggestion: after you have the energy moving and are feeling your Inner Body, you can place your attention on particular spots in your body that you would like to ‘heal’, energize, assist in coming back into full cooperation and functioning with the rest of your body. This is a very powerful way to assist the natural healing power of the body. As we are learning, good doctors don’t ‘heal’ us, but simply assist the body to heal itself.

copyright (c) 2010 Tobias Lars


Last Christmas season, I had an amazing experience where a friend took me to the Piano Guys Christmas Concert. I was having a difficult time worrying about something and had not even realized how deep the heaviness felt but they sang this song and I wept really good tears. I sometimes put it on loop...

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onawah
16th November 2019, 07:07
Thanks so much Christina, Ayt and Maggie (great song and advice, btw). :flower:
It means a lot to have friends I can call on this way, no matter how far apart we live.
I feel a little better already:star:
Ayt, I will PM you to see how far apart we actually are...
Thanks again!
:grouphug:

Patient
16th November 2019, 07:33
I understand that you might not want to take the meds, but maybe just when you are trying to get sleep if sleep is difficult.

Might be good to wrap it lightly with a make shift splint when you sleep so you dont accidentally move it the wrong way when you are sleeping. ( I remember when I had torn ligaments in my ankle. I finally got to sleep but woke myself up when I turned my ankle in my sleep.)

It does suck when we lose our mobility, but take this time to catch up on some reading maybe.

You will get better! :)

Khadija
16th November 2019, 10:19
Sending you soothing vibes for both the pain and the worry. I love Delight's hand apposition technique because it is also a meditation likely to reduce anxiety. May you be well very soon.

wondering
16th November 2019, 10:50
Dear Natalie, I believe that every cell in the body has intelligence and I agree that placing your hands on your ankle and sending healing and love can only help, along with conscious breathing as you do it. I am sending love and comfort your way as well as belief in your body’s ability to heal itself. May you be comforted and healed. Diane

Bill Ryan
16th November 2019, 10:59
I'm very sorry that happened. :flower:

Do take a close look at anything and everything on the Joints and Inflammation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107978-Joints-inflammation-and-all-that-stuff) thread. There are many things which will help. In my own case (with a knee flare-up) I did everything at once, and that absolutely worked. :)

Besides diet, MSM, turmeric and borax, there are some muscle-and-joint specific homeopathic creams which with my own knees were really helpful.

1. Topricin


https://amazon.com/Topricin-Relief-Therapy-Acting-Relieving/dp/B00HF4T0IW

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51KLMNy861L._SX522_.jpg

2. Hyland's Muscle Therapy Gel with Arnica
(works for joints, too)


https://amazon.com/Hylands-Muscle-Therapy-Gel-Arnica/dp/B007QR5K78

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31kn53H5DtL.jpg

Cognitive Dissident
16th November 2019, 11:10
This is fairly on the esoteric side, but I have found it really does work (in my case, when I can't sleep, my MAP healing team can get me to sleep within 20 minutes...):

https://www.perelandra-ltd.com/MAP-The-Co-Creative-White-Brotherhood-Medical-Assistance-Program-P1293.aspx

Here is an except from the book with the key instructions: https://www.perelandra-ltd.com/PDF/MAP_Excerpt.pdf

And some more info from the website: This book and the program it introduces is the result of seven years of research and work at Perelandra by Machaelle Wright with nature and the White Brotherhood. MAP (Medical Assistance Program) is easy to use for anyone who feels that his or her present medical support is not enough.

MAP is a comprehensive medical program that addresses our general health; any specific illness, disease or condition; injuries (serious or small); our mental health; our emotional health; and our overall well-being. It is a program that connects you with the medical unit of the White Brotherhood where we are each "assigned" a team of physicians whose expertise best meets our individual needs. The only things that are required to do this program are the book and your willingness to learn the program. As a program, it couldn't be more simple. With MAP you have high quality medical assistance any time day or night-and it's at no charge.

aoibhghaire
16th November 2019, 11:42
I can concur with Cognitive Dissident, I have been using the Peralandra tools for the past 25 years with astonishing success.

You can use the Peralandra tools to heal not only your physical self, but mental/emotional and soul level well being.

A lot of people may never have heard of Peralandra, this may be because they have never advertised. Its been word of mouth for decades.
When a person is ready and can resonate with these tools, you'll never go back to old external treatments. For example, as a starter astonishing results with any excruciating pain physical and emotional can be relieved within minutes with the ETS for humans (trauma solution)

onawah
16th November 2019, 15:50
I got some sleep last night, thankfully, and the pain is not quite as bad today.
I will check out all the recommendations.
One good thing about these kinds of wake-up calls is that, once we are through them, how much more we appreciate the things we normally take for granted...
Many thanks to all the caring Avalon hearts!
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Ernie Nemeth
16th November 2019, 16:07
I wish you the best and speediest recovery, Natalie.

I will pray for you.

Love:heart:

wondering
16th November 2019, 16:11
Delight, No intent to sidetrack, but thank you so much for this music...these guys exude such joy....all of us can be healed by this! Diane

Pam
16th November 2019, 16:13
I am so sorry you have an injury, Onawah. It is encouraging that you are feeling a bit better today. You have a lot of fortitude and that that will serve you well. All the best to you, Pam

Dennis Leahy
16th November 2019, 16:19
Hi Natalie/Onawah,

Sorry to hear about your ankle. You asked for prayers/healing, (check (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEylHk6SdCI)), and are getting a bunch of unsolicited medical advice. hahahahaha and of course, I can add to the pile.

Icing the injury (cryotherapy), is, to my understanding, primarily about temporarily slowing down the blood supply at the injury site. You're trying to keep swelling down. Internal bleeding/bruising can be minor and only affecting capillaries and small vessels, and may not be visible on the outer surface.

I hate putting ice on injuries - it feels like adding "insult to injury" and can make my whole body feel cold - and can add a new different kind of pain to the injury site. But, I grit my teeth and do it because it has worked so many times for me. For me, the key is not to leave it on very long - count to 100 slowly if I have to - then take it off for a bit. Total time of icing, maybe 20 minutes in a session. Cryotherapy is typically just used during the first 24 to 48 hours after the injury. After that (assuming no new injury to the site, and that any internal bleeding has stopped), you actually want increased blood to the injury site, so you add warmth.

Elevate the foot, all day long, all night long, only allowing it to come down as required to go to the bathroom. This may be the most effective immediate advice against pain. It is boring to be restricted to foot elevation, but it will help accomplish faster healing and alleviate much of the pain.

CBD oil, taken internally and applied to the skin at the site of the pain should knock pain down somewhat. Cannabis oil-infused salve that contains THC can also be used on the skin (transdermally.) I have found it to work about as well as over-the-counter pain salve/patch products (but interestingly, I have read that THC is pretty poorly absorbed transdermally.) A strong cannabis strain that is primarily an indica strain (Cannabis indica), taken internally, is a powerful pain killer and can make your couch seem like the only logical place to be. It also induces sleep.

Turmeric curcumin is the other substance that I'd say is extremely important right away, and will allow you to bypass the pharmaceutical pain relievers/NSAIDs like ibuprofen.

My suggestions are about the immediate trauma, the "acute", rather than the long-term, chronic, joint health advice. The long-term advice is valuable, but since this just happened (acute injury to chronically impaired tissue), I thought I'd focus on the acute.

Find some comedies to watch, to distract yourself too!

Wishing you speedy healing and no pain!

lilac
16th November 2019, 20:12
Ohawah, I saw this and I thought, hmmm I think I have your chart in my files. Funny, I immediately found it - a grand feat in the middle of mercury retrograde. So my 2 cents: there is a method in astrology of looking at the physical body from the perspective of the nodes. South node is the fontanel, i.e. the weakest spot for a newborn. The north node (direction in the coming life) is, naturally the feet. Yours are on the ground in Taurus. As you know, this affects your moon in 11th in Taurus. In your chart, the moon "trails behind" the north node, kinda like baggage. The moon is comfort, wants and needs... in Taurus especially bodily comfort, attachment and the love of beauty... in the 11th women friends, enjoying groups. Well, here comes transitting uranus! He is in Taurus now to stay for the next 10-ish years. Your comfort zone is about to change. I also have moon in taurus and I fully understand we dont like change:( I would suggest that it is time to take steps to change your living situation or family dynamic and your ankle is having none of it:)

onawah
16th November 2019, 21:10
That makes a lot of sense, Lilac.
I've moved so many times in my life, I can certainly see why my ankle would be in resistance...:ballchain:
Full Moon in Taurus definitely likes staying put.
Thanks for the input! :clapping:

Ohawah, I saw this and I thought, hmmm I think I have your chart in my files. Funny, I immediately found it - a grand feat in the middle of mercury retrograde. So my 2 cents: there is a method in astrology of looking at the physical body from the perspective of the nodes. South node is the fontanel, i.e. the weakest spot for a newborn. The north node (direction in the coming life) is, naturally the feet. Yours are on the ground in Taurus. As you know, this affects your moon in 11th in Taurus. In your chart, the moon "trails behind" the north node, kinda like baggage. The moon is comfort, wants and needs... in Taurus especially bodily comfort, attachment and the love of beauty... in the 11th women friends, enjoying groups. Well, here comes transitting uranus! He is in Taurus now to stay for the next 10-ish years. Your comfort zone is about to change. I also have moon in taurus and I fully understand we dont like change:( I would suggest that it is time to take steps to change your living situation or family dynamic and your ankle is having none of it:)

Le Chat
16th November 2019, 21:22
My girlfriends daughter is dying with cancer and you want healing and prayers for a feckin sore ankle?
Get a grip...

Bill Ryan
16th November 2019, 21:28
My girlfriends daughter is dying with cancer and you want healing and prayers for a feckin sore ankle?
Get a grip...Not very appropriate, if I may say, and maybe not very kind. There are Avalon threads asking for help with all kind of things — large and small. Some well-loved members have suffered greatly in all kinds of ways, and the support has always been there.

This is a very generous, sensitive and mutually supportive community. If you'd like some assistance, advice, or just plain friendship, if you're having a hard day, week or year, just ask, and it's right here for you — and your family.

:flower:

greybeard
16th November 2019, 22:19
There's an AA expression
"My hell is worst because it happened to me"
Regardless of the condition, the degree of its effect on self and those who love-- compasion is appropriate.
Chris

AutumnW
16th November 2019, 22:46
Oh no, Onawah,

Sending a prayer your way. You don't need this on top of everything else!:bearhug:

AutumnW
16th November 2019, 22:50
My girlfriends daughter is dying with cancer and you want healing and prayers for a feckin sore ankle?
Get a grip...

Onawah lives alone and can barely walk, if at all. Not enough hardship for you? Please provide a list of what does qualify for prayer, in your judgment.

Terrible about your friend's daughter but suffering isn't a contest with the most serious problem winning the 'award' of prayer. Now don't be so damned grumpy.

Franny
16th November 2019, 23:26
So many good wishes, suggestions and healing going to you Natalie :heart: that I know it will have you feeling better much sooner than expected. Really!

Mike
16th November 2019, 23:47
hi Nat:heart:

sorry to hear about your ankle. drats!

i credit you with telling me about the infrared heating pad, and it's been pretty helpful for my troublesome left knee!

i wonder if it might help your ankle too.

the one i got off amazon was right around $50, and i believe it was the cheapest available. it comes with a cord sort of thing so that you can secure the pad around knees and ankles and elbows etc.

let me know if you want more info on the brand and so forth.:flower:

onawah
16th November 2019, 23:59
Hey Mike, Yes, I credit my mini BioMat for helping me get some much needed sleep last night.
I'm supposed to be icing the ankle and that does help, but for the rest of my aching body, the BioMat is always great.
However, I paid $700 for mine! Brand new though, and larger than yours, though not full length--from about the top of my head to my knees, but I don't think I could take the full length one, as it gets really warm.
And thanks, but I'm happy with mine.
What I could use at this point, though, is an ice pack that would wrap around my ankle, if there is such a thing.
Keeping my ankle cold isn't that easy, unless I just soak it in a bowl of ice water, which perhaps I will summon up enough temerity to do before long.
My foot is alarmingly swollen now and that would probably do the trick.
But...:smow: !! :lol:
Hugs :hug:

onawah
17th November 2019, 00:04
Moonlight, you might want to consider that you know next to nothing about the person (me) or the prevailing circumstances, before you deal out your admonishments. :nono:

More thanks to Chris, Bill, Autumn, Mike and Franny. Much appreciated. :grouphug: :heart: (And good point, Franny!)
It helps to reach out; though I usually pride myself on my independence, sometimes one has to put one's pride aside. :nod:


My girlfriends daughter is dying with cancer and you want healing and prayers for a feckin sore ankle?
Get a grip...

Pam
17th November 2019, 00:30
Hey Mike, Yes, I credit my mini BioMat for helping me get some much needed sleep last night.
I'm supposed to be icing the ankle and that does help, but for the rest of my aching body, the BioMat is always great.
However, I paid $700 for mine! Brand new though, and larger than yours, though not full length--from about the top of my head to my knees, but I don't think I could take the full length one, as it gets really warm.
And thanks, but I'm happy with mine.
What I could use at this point, though, is an ice pack that would wrap around my ankle, if there is such a thing.
Keeping my ankle cold isn't that easy, unless I just soak it in a bowl of ice water, which perhaps I will summon up enough temerity to do before long.
My foot is alarmingly swollen now and that would probably do the trick.
But...:smow: !! :lol:
Hugs :hug:

Try a bag of frozen corn. That will wrap around your ankle after it's been out for a few minutes.

onawah
17th November 2019, 00:44
I'll try that. Thanks P.


Try a bag of frozen corn. That will wrap around your ankle after it's been out for a few minutes.

Franny
17th November 2019, 00:49
Try a bag of frozen corn. That will wrap around your ankle after it's been out for a few minutes.


Ha! I was just about to suggest that as well. I've had broken and badly sprained ankles, knees and foot. A couple bags of frozen corn or peas works wonders.

Castor oil helps, DMSO too, and both mixed together are even better, been using them for years...um, decades.

onawah
17th November 2019, 00:58
Thanks Franny. I forgot that I have castor oil. I will use that when I start applying heat instead of ice, so it will soak in. It's very healing. I think I have some DMSO too, I will take a look.
How long did it take for your sprain to heal?
(This was such bad timing for me, as I am scheduled to show my work at an art venue on 11/29 & 30, a first for me!
I was hoping to be working full bore to get as many pieces ready as possible.
So this was not part of the plan!.)

Delight
17th November 2019, 01:11
My girlfriends daughter is dying with cancer and you want healing and prayers for a feckin sore ankle?
Get a grip...

Moonlight I feel pain in this post. I feel it wanting healing and I send you my love too. Singable songs help me and so I am posting a couple for every ONE who seems to be experiencing something devastating. What i do is take a singable song and put it on loop and sing along, don't stop singing until you I am relieved of a burden. That has been so healing.

And I pray the 23 rd psalm as a mantra. I just don't understand the pain and suffering in this world. But I will accept that it is so I will learn something about feeling WITH the troubles and also feeling we are not alone. It's also REALLY about being brave enough to start over with our assumptions about life and also HEAL so we can show others how IMO. It can make sense to say we are not alone but when we LIVE in that knowing, there is so much comfort. We need so much inner strength to face the world and we need our inner POWER.

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These are on my list. Maybe there is one you know? By the way, I have NO PROBLEM with calling on God but I HAVE NO IDEA "who" I am praying too. That does not mean GOD is not with me. I feel GOD any how. Holding out for grace and mercy! Maggie

Valerie Villars
17th November 2019, 01:45
Spectacularly Beautiful. :clap2::amen:

onawah, you have a peaceful and pain free night.

Delight, what can I say? A human at her best. Bless you hon.

Sadieblue
17th November 2019, 04:13
Sending prayers that your ankle will heal, and you get good sleep tonight.

onawah
17th November 2019, 04:57
Thanks Sadie. I felt well enough to do some work this evening, so there seems to be progress.

Sending prayers that your ankle will heal, and you get good sleep tonight.

Franny
17th November 2019, 05:05
Thanks Franny. I forgot that I have castor oil. I will use that when I start applying heat instead of ice, so it will soak in. It's very healing. I think I have some DMSO too, I will take a look.
How long did it take for your sprain to heal?
(This was such bad timing for me, as I am scheduled to show my work at an art venue on 11/29 & 30, a first for me!
I was hoping to be working full bore to get as many pieces ready as possible.
So this was not part of the plan!.)

How exciting you have a show coming up - all the best to you on your new venture :flower:

Can you prop your leg up and continue your work? I put a hassock under a table for when I broke my ankle, it was at about the same level as the chair so it worked nicely.

It seems to take 4-6 days (for me) to show a noticeable difference and continues to improve from there.

onawah
17th November 2019, 05:19
Thanks Franny. I'm definitely excited! I just hope by that time I won't be hobbling.
I tend to be so focused on my work when I'm being creative, I forget to be mindful of my body, but I need to work on that.
4-6 days is do-able! I will shoot for that!


How exciting you have a show coming up - all the best to you on your new venture :flower:

Can you prop your leg up and continue your work? I put a hassock under a table for when I broke my ankle, it was at about the same level as the chair so it worked nicely. It seems to take 4-6 days (for me) to show a noticeable difference and continues to improve from there.

Denise/Dizi
17th November 2019, 06:29
<3 Much love to you Natalie. I will send prayers for a speedy recovery. BIG HUGS!

onawah
17th November 2019, 07:20
Thanks to all, I don't usually do things like start this thread.
It was an interesting experience, but I am going to request that it be closed now.
I'm just feeling a little bit self-conscious. :o
Thanks again.

Anchor
17th November 2019, 07:50
Thanks to all, I don't usually do things like start this thread.
It was an interesting experience, but I am going to request that it be closed now.
I'm just feeling a little bit self-conscious. :o
Thanks again.

Onawah,

I hope you recover fully - and some of your other malfunctioning parts improve!

I also hope moonlight's daughter gets all the help she requires in accordance with her highest desired outcome.

Consider all is catalyst. Our various bodies (physical, emotional, mental etc) are one of the main sources of that catalyst. It throws our lives and gives us something to deal with.

If this spurs a twist and a turn in our lives, that makes us review some aspect of ourselves, like the tendency to feel self-conscious, then maybe that's worth it?

Getting old sucks.... but it forces you to accept the love and help of others, and it gives others the opportunity to express that love and help.

Bill Ryan
17th November 2019, 08:02
Thanks to all, I don't usually do things like start this thread.
It was an interesting experience, but I am going to request that it be closed now.
I'm just feeling a little bit self-conscious. :o
Thanks again.Okay, will do!

I'm a little sorry to do that, because this is Avalon at its very best: we're first and foremost a human community, and a research community, university and reference library a close second.

When I had some problems with my knees a couple months ago, I started a thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107978-Joints-inflammation-and-all-that-stuff) about it — with a slightly different focus: to share self-healing protocols that seemed to work (including my own). I found that immensely valuable, and I think some others may have done, too.


I also hope moonlight's daughter gets all the help she requires in accordance with her highest desired outcome.

From ankles and knees to more life-threatening matters, we also have threads about cancer — quite a few of them. Just search for 'cancer' in thread titles. Just a few of them are:


Fenbendazole protocol for Cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109139-Fenbendazole-protocol-for-Cancer)
All About Cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108134-All-About-Cancer)
Prostate cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101532-Prostate-cancer)
Cancer Cured: Victory Over the War on Cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98236-Cancer-Cured-Victory-Over-the-War-on-Cancer)
Help please, thyroid cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62836-Help-please-thyroid-cancer)
Cancer killing/Killing Cancer ~ My Heart Path (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101221-Cancer-killing-Killing-Cancer-My-Heart-Path)
Vitamin B17 laetrile as cancer cure (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106061-Vitamin-B17-laetrile-as-cancer-cure)
Seven Principles of Cancer Treatment: Dr Mercola (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106251-Seven-Principles-of-Cancer-Treatment-Dr-Mercola)
Vitamin C and DoxyCycline for stopping Cancer Tumors (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103389-Ultra-Quick-Electric-Pulses-Killing-Cancer-Cells)
Ultra-Quick Electric Pulses Killing Cancer Cells (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103389-Ultra-Quick-Electric-Pulses-Killing-Cancer-Cells)

@moonlight (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?45111-moonlight), regarding your own heartfelt post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109201-Please-send-healing-prayers&p=1323786&viewfull=1#post1323786), we do understand. For a much-loved and close family member to be so very sick is frightening.

We hope you might find some practical help in the threads above (there's enough information there to compile a textbook), and you're genuinely more than welcome to start a thread about this yourself. It may be useful to share with us the type of cancer that is involved, and we'll all see what we can bring to bear on this that may be helpful.

:flower:

Bill Ryan
18th November 2019, 17:37
Hello, Everyone: onawah (Natalie) has asked me if I could kindly append this note (from her) at the end of the thread. (I suggested we could re-open it and move it to a members-only section, but she assured me that wouldn't be necessary now.)

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Hi Bill,

The problem was that the thread wasn't on a members only subforum, which would have been a more comfortable fit, and I think I would have continued to be OK with.

I didn't actually mean for the community at large (beyond the actual members) to be aware of my problem, but I wasn't thinking clearly when I started the thread!

There was more response than I expected which actually made me a bit uncomfortable because it was taking up so much room on the forum when there are so many other, more important issues that need our focus.

In any case, it was the first couple of days when I was feeling most dismayed, but I'm past that now, so mission accomplished. :nod:

I am generally more of a stoic, and this was a good lesson for me--asking for help elicited some wonderful energy from and for everyone, and you are right, those moments are among Avalon's shining ones.

I will post updates on my profile page (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?310-onawah) for anyone who wants to know about my progress.

Thanks and best wishes,
Natalie