USAF Secretary & Congressman want to Declassify Secret Space Programs

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USAF (https://www.af.mil/) Secretary & Congressman want to Declassify Secret Space Programs

Written by Dr Michael Salla (https://www.exopolitics.org/author/dr-michael-salla/) on December 13, 2019. Posted in Featured (https://www.exopolitics.org/category/featured/), Space Programs (https://www.exopolitics.org/category/spaceprograms/)

On December 7, attendees at the Reagan National Defense Forum held at the Reagan Presidential Library were told by the Secretary of the Air Force, Barbara Barrett, and US Congressman Mike Rogers, that they are in favor of declassifying information about the Air Force’s secret space program in order to get the public to support a US Space Force. Their comments confirm that the US Air Force is on the verge of disclosing the truth behind rumors of a secret space program and that the Space Force is a vital part of a series of stunning disclosures that lie ahead.

Barrett and Rogers’ comments were published by Defense News in an article by reporter Nathan Strout with the eye-catching title, “Barrett, Rogers consider declassifying secretive space programs (https://www.defensenews.com/smr/reagan-defense-forum/2019/12/08/barrett-rogers-plan-to-declassify-black-space-programs/)”. Barrett and Rogers were speaking at a panel (https://www.reaganfoundation.org/media/355308/rndf_agenda_panels__wd__2019_with_names_for_email_ rv25-2.pdf) on “Next Steps in Space: Launching America’s Sixth Military Branch”. In the panel Barrett said:
Declassifying some of what is currently held in secure vaults would be a good idea… You would have to be careful about what we declassify, but there is much more classified than what needs to be.

Rogers, a co-sponsor of the original House of Representatives Bill to create a Space Force/Corps, agreed and said that information about space programs was “overwhelmingly classified (https://www.defensenews.com/smr/reagan-defense-forum/2019/12/08/barrett-rogers-plan-to-declassify-black-space-programs/)”.

Rogers elaborated further on the need to declassify the Air Force’s secret infrastructure in space in order to win public support for Space Force:

As members of the Armed Services Committee and the defense appropriators, we get it. But we have to have our other colleagues in the Congress to be supportive of us making the changes we need and the resources we need into this… It’s not going to happen until they understand the threat and the dependence we have. And I don’t think that can happen until we see significant declassification of what we’re doing in space and what China and Russia are doing, and how space is in their day-to-day lives.

Rogers’ comment that the US, China and Russia have secret space programs, and that the public needs to know more about these in order to support the creation of Space Force is stunning acknowledgment of the existence of rival military programs with space technologies far more advanced than the rocket-propelled technologies used by NASA and other national space programs.

This echoes comments by a recently retired USAF Lieutenant General Steven Kwast in a lecture where he described China developing a space navy:

They are building a navy in space with the equivalent of battleships and destroyers that will be able to maneuver and kill and communicate with dominance.

China’s future space navy will be able to decimate America’s satellite systems and space assets overnight.

In his Defense News article (https://www.defensenews.com/smr/reagan-defense-forum/2019/12/08/barrett-rogers-plan-to-declassify-black-space-programs/) covering Barrett and Rogers’ comments, Strout said:
The two declined to say how much of the black space portfolio could move into the public, nor when changes would start happening. But Barrett pledged that it would be a focus for her office moving forward, a sign that progress could come during 2020.
Two days later, it was announced that the Congressional Conference Committee set up to resolve competing Space Force proposals from the House and Senate had reached an agreement.

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2020 would contain the Space Force Act that would officially launch Space Force in early 2020. I explained the key provisions of the Space Force Act in an earlier article available here (https://www.exopolitics.org/space-force-is-a-go-as-congress-gives-its-approval/).

On Wednesday, December 11, the House of Representatives passed (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-congress/u-s-house-passes-massive-defense-bill-which-now-heads-to-senate-idUSKBN1YF2RW) the bipartisan agreement reached for the NDAA/Space Force Act and the Senate is scheduled to vote on it next week. President Donald Trump has already tweeted (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1204782262912503808) that he will immediately sign it into law making the creation of Space Force official.

The comments made by Barrett and Rogers about the need to declassify more of the space activities secretly conducted by the USAF followed only one day after the December 6 news of an agreement being reached in Congress for the passage of the Space Force Act. This is not coincidental.

In fact, this sequence of events is stunning confirmation that Space Force is being used as a means for declassifying key elements of a USAF secret space program that possesses advanced propulsion and energy systems that will revolutionize the aerospace industry.

The linkage between the creation of the Space Force and the declassification of advanced space technologies process is precisely what I predicted in the US Air Force Secret Space Program (https://www.amazon.com/Force-Secret-Space-Program-Extraterrestrial-ebook/dp/B07RJFF7CZ/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1576180402&refinements=p_27%3AMichael+Salla&s=digital-text&sr=1-2&text=Michael+Salla). Put simply, the rollout of Space Force provides the means for disclosing futuristic technologies used by the Air Force in a way the boosts public confidence, setting the stage for even more remarkable disclosures.

The creation of Space Force marks the beginning of an official disclosure process that will confirm the source of many UFO sightings were, in fact, advanced space technologies developed by the USAF, or the aerospace forces of major nations such as Russia and China.

Read more here (https://www.exopolitics.org/usaf-secretary-congressman-want-to-declassify-secret-space-programs/)

Source (https://www.exopolitics.org/usaf-secretary-congressman-want-to-declassify-secret-space-programs/)

Barrett, Rogers Consider Declassifying (https://www.defensenews.com/smr/reagan-defense-forum/2019/12/08/barrett-rogers-plan-to-declassify-black-space-programs/) Secretive Space Programs

Gov’t Leaders Seek Declassification (https://www.executivegov.com/2019/12/govt-leaders-seek-declassification-of-us-space-programs/) of US Space Programs

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Barbara M. Barrett (https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/1990786/barbara-m-barrett/)


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Related: PDF (https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20191209/CRPT-116hrpt333.pdf) for those who want to do additional research ;)

[AutumnW]

This is amazing, if its true. The slow drip drip drip of disclosure for the last few years could become a firehose of confusion. Some of what we learn will be accurate but so much will be tailored to meet the needs of the military.

[Justplain]

"In fact, this sequence of events is stunning confirmation that Space Force is being used as a means for declassifying key elements of a USAF secret space program that possesses advanced propulsion and energy systems that will revolutionize the aerospace industry.revolutionize the aerospace industry."

I think that this is an assumption by the author, not reflective of the reported information. It sounds like the USAF secretary and the congressman want to disclose the perceived threats that make the space force 'necessary'. These threats in particular are the secret space forces of China and Russia. My guess is that some ufo's will also be cited as a potential threat, thus the tic-tac ufo 'disclosure' of the past couple of years. This threat spin is meant to alarm the public and require further funding by the bankrupt U.S. government.

I see no info in the stated quotes from these government employees that implies, covertly or overtly, that any cutting edge technology is about to be released.

[Sunny-side-up]

Big shame that if true, the main reason for such technology is for defence/battle.
Why not exploration and working out in space, together.
There enough space out there to keep them occupied, so leave earth alone (earth based satellites and the like)
and then why not join together to help defend earth if ever needed instead of continually blowing each other up.

They, in simple terms are nothing more than little kids bickering, playing with grown up's toys/tool's :(

I think we shall see a false space threat/invasion.
As with the statement (many UFO's are our tech), I believe that many strange and or Alien sightings are man made as well.
I think it is the man made Alien/drone creature/beings that has held them back in their big Alien battle plans.

[Frank V]

For what it's worth, here's my opinion:




If it comes from Michael Salla, then I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.

Michael Salla is one of the guys who championed Randy "Captain Kaye" Cramer, Corey Goode, Andrew Basiago and Laura Eisenhower, and he's buddies with David Wilcock and Alfred Lambremont Webre. I put him in the same category as the latter, albeit that he's slightly less sensationalist.

How many times have we not heard of "imminent disclosure" (hi Stephen Bassett!) or mass arrests (hi Benjamin Fulford!)? The only disclosure you're ever going to get is if a spaceship the size of New York City were to hover over, um, New York City ─ like in "V (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1984_TV_series))" or "Independence Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(1996_film))" ─ so that the authorities and the mainstream media cannot afford to keep ridiculing, ignoring or denying the truth. Anything else is just wishful thinking and/or click bait.


Hey, you asked for my opinion ─ no, wait, you didn't :P ─ so there you have it. :)

[Mypos]

For what it's worth, here's my opinion:




If it comes from Michael Salla, then I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.

Michael Salla is one of the guys who championed Randy "Captain Kaye" Cramer, Corey Goode, Andrew Basiago and Laura Eisenhower, and he's buddies with David Wilcock and Alfred Lambremont Webre. I put him in the same category as the latter, albeit that he's slightly less sensationalist.

How many times have we not heard of "imminent disclosure" (hi Stephen Bassett!) or mass arrests (hi Benjamin Fulford!)? The only disclosure you're ever going to get is if a spaceship the size of New York City were to hover over, um, New York City ─ like in "V (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1984_TV_series))" or "Independence Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(1996_film))" ─ so that the authorities and the mainstream media cannot afford to keep ridiculing, ignoring or denying the truth. Anything else is just wishful thinking and/or click bait.


Hey, you asked for my opinion ─ no, wait, you didn't :P ─ so there you have it. :)

But that opinion has allready been proven wrong trough the whole Tick Tack UFO and the TTSA because the goverment allready admitted UFO's are real and no joke. I think and hope they will go forward from here.

[Gracy]

I'm going to stick with the old adage that if their lips are moving, they're lying. Of course that's not always the case, sometimes varying proportions of the truth, is what's required to meet a desired end. It's the difference between mis-information, and dis-information.

Since when does the US government need popular support from it's people do something it wants to do? Like, never? I was reading somewhere else yesterday that another reason for certain disclosures would be to scare the hell out of any potential with a peek at some of what we've got. That sounds more like it.

Maybe they're tired of having to hide as well, maybe it's getting too big, and the "ufo" sightings are getting out of hand.

Out of those three reasons, gaining public support, scaring the hell out of potential adversaries, and tired of hiding, which one doesn't belong?

Another thing to notice here. To my fellow Americans, how often do you hear "how are you going to pay for it?", when the suggested action would be something that would only be of great benefit to the average citizen, like being able to go to the emergence room without incurring crippling debt, or free college so as not to start young people off on their life journey not under the burden of debt already as well?

What about an overhaul, a modernization of our infrastructure? Nope, "where's the money gonna come from?"

Ah, but tack on more hundreds of billions of dollars to a bloated military budget already nearing a trillion dollars a year, keep pumping out more hundreds of billions of dollars on our foreign entanglements, or more banks need bailing out to the tune of yet MORE hundreds of billions of dollars, like happened again just recently that we weren't supposed to notice?

Why, here's a blank check just fill in the amount you need, my fellow club member.

So, yeah, pardon me if I'm not all giggly and excited about this. But I know it's going to happen whether we want it or not anyway. They don't need our support for this any more than they need it for the wars they so love.

We can explore and utilize space without militarizing it, and creating a brand new wing of the military to put the already existing program on steroids, all they're doing is igniting a new arms race at the cost of continuing to leave so many Americans working 2 and 3 jobs just to keep their heads above water.

Rant over. :bigsmile:

[Mypos]

I'm going to stick with the old adage that if their lips are moving, they're lying. Of course that's not always the case, sometimes varying proportions of the truth, is what's required to meet a desired end. It's the difference between mis-information, and dis-information.

Since when does the US government need popular support from it's people do something it wants to do? Like, never? I was reading somewhere else yesterday that another reason for certain disclosures would be to scare the hell out of any potential with a peek at some of what we've got. That sounds more like it.

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Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do. That is for instance one of the most important reasons why they created the False Flag 911. So they could win over the public to attack the Axis of Evil. Nothing better than the first attack on American soil to get the public so outraged that they will support all the wars and all the lies and the hate the goverment has to offer.

In this case its a little different because this is for a big part of it buried in the section of the Goverment that does everything in secret. But they are mainly talking about the disclosure of the stuff at the surface here.

[Bill Ryan]

This very interesting Dark Journalist livestream (first posted by onawah (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?310-onawah), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1327375&viewfull=1#post1327375)) definitely belongs on this thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JHKbquFeDY
A long and complex presentation, as always. The focus is on how seriously bad news it is for everyone for space to be "the next war-fighting domain", as Donald Trump stated publicly in August.

Daniel also spends a lot of time talking about Dag Hammarskjöld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Hammarskj%C3%B6ld), who was UN Secretary-General from 1953 to 1961, when he was killed (almost certainly assassinated) in a plane crash. Hammarskjöld was himself deeply connected to the mystery schools, but was a good guy, a true 'white hat'.

JFK called Hammarskjöld "the greatest statesman of our century", no small tribute. The theme here is how Kennedy and Hammarskjöld both wanted nations to co-operate in the exploration and peaceful development of space, but after Kennedy's assassination (and that of Hammarskjöld) this all changed.

Trump, Daniel states strongly, is being very badly advised. TTSA is mentioned, as they too are pushing the idea of a 'threat in space'.

[enigma3]

I thought the message was, if you post a vid, include a synopsis. Good message. So please, Bill Ryan, include a synopsis with the Dark Journalist vid. Thanks.






From Bill: thanks, and done. :thumbsup:

[onawah]

IMHO, Dark Journalist's videos are always excellent and need little introduction for those who know his work.
He covers so much territory, connects so many dots, each one necessitates a long list of topics discussed.
I usually just post them before I've even listened to them for that reason, since it may be awhile before I actually have time to listen myself.
But thanks to Bill for providing some details for this one, which I will add to my original post.

[onawah]

Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.

[onawah]

I'm listening to it now, and I think it belongs in the "Trump is not the Answer" thread as well, as he is supporting the movement to create a new, very expensive branch of US armed services devoted not to peaceful exploration of space, but to war in space (so far, at least, and it would be very difficult for him to back-tread at this point). I will post a link there too.

This very interesting Dark Journalist livestream (first posted by onawah (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?310-onawah), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1327375&viewfull=1#post1327375)) definitely belongs on this thread.
A long and complex presentation, as always. The focus is on how seriously bad news it is for everyone for space to be "the next war-fighting domain", as Donald Trump stated publicly in August.

Daniel also spends a lot of time talking about Dag Hammarskjöld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Hammarskj%C3%B6ld), who was UN Secretary-General from 1953 to 1961, when he was killed (almost certainly assassinated) in a plane crash. Hammarskjöld was himself deeply connected to the mystery schools, but was a good guy, a true 'white hat'.

JFK called Hammarskjöld "the greatest statesman of our century", no small tribute. The theme here is how Kennedy and Hammarskjöld both wanted nations to co-operate in the exploration and peaceful development of space, but after Kennedy's assassination (and that of Hammarskjöld) this all changed.

Trump, Daniel states strongly, is being very badly advised. TTSA is mentioned, as they too are pushing the idea of a 'threat in space'.

[ExomatrixTV]

Space Force:
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[Frank V]

For what it's worth, here's my opinion:




If it comes from Michael Salla, then I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.

Michael Salla is one of the guys who championed Randy "Captain Kaye" Cramer, Corey Goode, Andrew Basiago and Laura Eisenhower, and he's buddies with David Wilcock and Alfred Lambremont Webre. I put him in the same category as the latter, albeit that he's slightly less sensationalist.

How many times have we not heard of "imminent disclosure" (hi Stephen Bassett!) or mass arrests (hi Benjamin Fulford!)? The only disclosure you're ever going to get is if a spaceship the size of New York City were to hover over, um, New York City ─ like in "V (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1984_TV_series))" or "Independence Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(1996_film))" ─ so that the authorities and the mainstream media cannot afford to keep ridiculing, ignoring or denying the truth. Anything else is just wishful thinking and/or click bait.


Hey, you asked for my opinion ─ no, wait, you didn't :P ─ so there you have it. :)

But that opinion has allready been proven wrong trough the whole Tick Tack UFO and the TTSA because the goverment allready admitted UFO's are real and no joke. I think and hope they will go forward from here.

Don't be fooled, Noorderbuur. The official narrative these days is that the Tic-Tac UFO and other UFOs are not UFOs but UAVs ("Unidentified Areal Vehicles") ─ a new moniker, by which they are purposely suggesting that they'd be drones operated by a foreign nation state, as opposed to visitors from off-planet.

[Mypos]

Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.


I cannot imagine this. They have put so much effort into swaying the minds of the public that i dont see them using a completely other kind of strategy. This would mean everybody knows they live as a slave on a planet of lies and corruption. Way too much risk on revolutions imo.

[TrumanCash]

After being abducted twice into a deep underground military/Grays base 25 years ago, I think by now they'd already have a "space force", since they've been flying around with aliens for decades.

I can't imagine that they'd come out with the truth now since that would mean they'd have to admit they sold us out to the Grays, et al.

It reminds me what Mark Phillips used to say: Mind Control = Information Control. Oh, what a tangled web they weave.

[onawah]

You don't have to imagine it.
You just have to read up on Agenda 21, on vaccines, on 5G, chemtrails, glysophate, censorship, mind control, and any number of other "conspiracy theories" that have been covered in great detail right here on this forum.
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions, but if you just leave it to your imagination, without sufficient research, then your conclusions are not likely to be based on reality.
It's a race--until they have established enough control, they will continue to court the public's good favor, but the tipping point appears to be fast approaching, at least in their eyes, as their arrogance continues unabated, even as the amount of evidence about their nefarious agendas continues to grow.


Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.


I cannot imagine this. They have put so much effort into swaying the minds of the public that i dont see them using a completely other kind of strategy. This would mean everybody knows they live as a slave on a planet of lies and corruption. Way too much risk on revolutions imo.

[TrumanCash]

You don't have to imagine it.
You just have to read up on Agenda 21, on vaccines, on 5G, chemtrails, glysophate, censorship, mind control, and any number of other "conspiracy theories" that have been covered in great detail right here on this forum!
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions, but if you just leave it to your imagination, without sufficient research, then your conclusions are not likely to be based on reality.
It's a race--until they have established enough control, they will continue to court the public's good favor, but the tipping point appears to be fast approaching, as their arrogance continues to grow.


Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.


I cannot imagine this. They have put so much effort into swaying the minds of the public that i dont see them using a completely other kind of strategy. This would mean everybody knows they live as a slave on a planet of lies and corruption. Way too much risk on revolutions imo.

The controllers won't need public support when they implement the global digital currency and eliminate cash. This appears to be the final straw for complete control. Aaron Russo said this was the goal of the Rockefellers and their ilk so that they can turn off your bank account if you don't comply, question authority or speak out against or expose the NWO.

It also appears that we're in the final stage(s) of the implementation of this plan. The worldwide indebtedness is unsustainable and it appears that the controllers are triggering a worldwide financial collapse in order to come to the rescue with a reset and global cryptocurrency. They have already done this in the thirteen colonies [read US Constitution] and in Europe by establishing a common currency in the colonies and Europe. And people are gladly accepting digital currencies and the "convenience" of using their "smart" phones to buy pretty much anything now. Smart phones for dumb people.

[Mypos]

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You don't have to imagine it.
You just have to read up on Agenda 21, on vaccines, on 5G, chemtrails, glysophate, censorship, mind control, and any number of other "conspiracy theories" that have been covered in great detail right here on this forum!
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions, but if you just leave it to your imagination, without sufficient research, then your conclusions are not likely to be based on reality.
It's a race--until they have established enough control, they will continue to court the public's good favor, but the tipping point appears to be fast approaching, as their arrogance continues to grow.


Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.


I cannot imagine this. They have put so much effort into swaying the minds of the public that i dont see them using a completely other kind of strategy. This would mean everybody knows they live as a slave on a planet of lies and corruption. Way too much risk on revolutions imo.

The controllers won't need public support when they implement the global digital currency and eliminate cash. This appears to be the final straw for complete control. Aaron Russo said this was the goal of the Rockefellers and their ilk so that they can turn off your bank account if you don't comply, question authority or speak out against or expose the NWO.

It also appears that we're in the final stage(s) of the implementation of this plan. The worldwide indebtedness is unsustainable and it appears that the controllers are triggering a worldwide financial collapse in order to come to the rescue with a reset and global cryptocurrency. They have already done this in the thirteen colonies [read US Constitution] and in Europe by establishing a common currency in the colonies and Europe. And people are gladly accepting digital currencies and the "convenience" of using their "smart" phones to buy pretty much anything now. Smart phones for dumb people.


Nothing to me seems like we are in the final stages of such a plan. Since the financial crisis of 2008 we are totally unsustainable. Our financial system is one big experiment with enourmous amounts of money being pumped into the system for years allready now. And its holding allready for 12 years. Who says it all coming crashing down soon? There is no evidence for that.

[Mypos]

You don't have to imagine it.
You just have to read up on Agenda 21, on vaccines, on 5G, chemtrails, glysophate, censorship, mind control, and any number of other "conspiracy theories" that have been covered in great detail right here on this forum.
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions, but if you just leave it to your imagination, without sufficient research, then your conclusions are not likely to be based on reality.
It's a race--until they have established enough control, they will continue to court the public's good favor, but the tipping point appears to be fast approaching, at least in their eyes, as their arrogance continues unabated, even as the amount of evidence about their nefarious agendas continues to grow.


Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.


I cannot imagine this. They have put so much effort into swaying the minds of the public that i dont see them using a completely other kind of strategy. This would mean everybody knows they live as a slave on a planet of lies and corruption. Way too much risk on revolutions imo.

I have been "awake" since 2008 and researching these conspiracys since then. So i dont think my conclusions are not based on reality. Maybe youre reality is a different one from mine?

Why would they give up this perfect system of control they have now for a system that is only going to create more problems for them? They dont want to be in the public's eye and it works pretty good for them at the moment. Most people on Earth still drink the koolaid and believe everything the news and Goverments tell them is the truth.

[onawah]

You are assuming they are sane and logical?
I would say they are pyschopaths, meglaomaniacs, sociopaths and narcissists, which don't match with the definition of sane or logical in my reality.
Though they still can be very clever and patient, and have hidden their lust and their long cherished plans for world domination fairly well so far, the implementation seems to be escalating and that's getting harder to hide.
That answers the question "why?" as far as I am concerned. "How" is the big question remaining. and there are plenty of "hows".

Though they have been making their plans for world domination for a very long time, Agenda 21 & the Green New Deal prove they don't want to wait any longer and they aren't that afraid to show their hand anymore.

"Winter is coming", and the Grand Solar Minimum may cause all kinds of unforeseen glitches, even for them.

(Though it will surely help to eliminate much of the population that they consider to be expendable through hunger, exposure, destruction of infrastructure, etc.)

But all the more reason to push their plans through quickly while conditions are easier to predict.

Their increasing ability to manipulate the weather has given them another tool for rapid population elimination, as do the generation-destroying vaccines they want to make mandatory.

Chemtrails continue unabated, poisoning everything they touch, allopathic health care is destroying health while traditional healing knowledge and practices which actually work are being censored and discouraged.

Trillions continue to pour into secret space programs, wars and other elitist pet projects, bankrupting economies worldwide. (Have you been listening to C.A. Fitts?)

5G is being implemented, in spite of protests, and that technology is actually a weapon that can render everyone essentially helpless with the flip of a switch.


World domination requires control of everyone's finances; their plans to chip everyone fell through.

They may consider that they are behind schedule so they probably want to push digital currency through asap.

When you connect all the dots, it's a daunting picture that threatens to burst any bubble of optimism, especially if it's misplaced.

I can understand not wanting to believe its come to this, and I wish I didn't!



Why would they give up this perfect system of control they have now for a system that is only going to create more problems for them? They dont want to be in the public's eye and it works pretty good for them at the moment. Most people on Earth still drink the koolaid and believe everything the news and Goverments tell them is the truth.

[Mypos]

You are assuming they are sane and logical?
I would say they are pyschopaths, meglaomaniacs, sociopaths and narcissists, which don't match with the definition of sane or logical in my reality.
Though they still can be very clever and patient, and have hidden their lust and their long cherished plans for world domination fairly well so far, the implementation seems to be escalating and that's getting harder to hide.
That answers the question "why?" as far as I am concerned. "How" is the big question remaining. and there are plenty of "hows".

Though they have been making their plans for world domination for a very long time, Agenda 21 & the Green New Deal prove they don't want to wait any longer and they aren't that afraid to show their hand anymore.

"Winter is coming", and the Grand Solar Minimum may cause all kinds of unforeseen glitches, even for them.

(Though it will surely help to eliminate much of the population that they consider to be expendable through hunger, exposure, destruction of infrastructure, etc.)

But all the more reason to push their plans through quickly while conditions are easier to predict.

Their increasing ability to manipulate the weather has given them another tool for rapid population elimination, as do the generation-destroying vaccines they want to make mandatory.

Chemtrails continue unabated, poisoning everything they touch, allopathic health care is destroying health while traditional healing knowledge and practices which actually work are being censored and discouraged.

Trillions continue to pour into secret space programs, wars and other elitist pet projects, bankrupting economies worldwide. (Have you been listening to C.A. Fitts?)

5G is being implemented, in spite of protests, and that technology is actually a weapon that can render everyone essentially helpless with the flip of a switch.


World domination requires control of everyone's finances; their plans to chip everyone fell through.

They may consider that they are behind schedule so they probably want to push digital currency through asap.

When you connect all the dots, it's a daunting picture that threatens to burst any bubble of optimism, especially if it's misplaced.

I can understand not wanting to believe its come to this, and I wish I didn't!



Why would they give up this perfect system of control they have now for a system that is only going to create more problems for them? They dont want to be in the public's eye and it works pretty good for them at the moment. Most people on Earth still drink the koolaid and believe everything the news and Goverments tell them is the truth.

I see alot of the things you talk about but i interpret them different. For instance you do not mention the enourmous raise of conscience and awareness of people. More and more people "wake up" every day to some degree. You can see huge amounts of people who take matters into their own hands and quit their day job and go make some kind of social change themselves. There are a huge amount of factors into play here.

You see the glass half empty i see the glass half full. I have alot of hope and i trust in the future. It will be as it needs to be. Everything is playing out as it should. Put your seatbelt on and enjoy the ride!

[onawah]

I have hope as well, but not the same kind of hope I used to have!
I think ultimately the good prevails, but we have come such a long way down this dark road, it's going to take a lot to turn things around, more than I used to think.
It's not so much a matter of half empty, half full, but of degrees, which is mutable and can change, like everything does.
The glass I see is just not as full as it used to be, before I did more research, and I've been doing that since 2001.


You are assuming they are sane and logical?
I would say they are pyschopaths, meglaomaniacs, sociopaths and narcissists, which don't match with the definition of sane or logical in my reality.
Though they still can be very clever and patient, and have hidden their lust and their long cherished plans for world domination fairly well so far, the implementation seems to be escalating and that's getting harder to hide.
That answers the question "why?" as far as I am concerned. "How" is the big question remaining. and there are plenty of "hows".

Though they have been making their plans for world domination for a very long time, Agenda 21 & the Green New Deal prove they don't want to wait any longer and they aren't that afraid to show their hand anymore.

"Winter is coming", and the Grand Solar Minimum may cause all kinds of unforeseen glitches, even for them.

(Though it will surely help to eliminate much of the population that they consider to be expendable through hunger, exposure, destruction of infrastructure, etc.)

But all the more reason to push their plans through quickly while conditions are easier to predict.

Their increasing ability to manipulate the weather has given them another tool for rapid population elimination, as do the generation-destroying vaccines they want to make mandatory.

Chemtrails continue unabated, poisoning everything they touch, allopathic health care is destroying health while traditional healing knowledge and practices which actually work are being censored and discouraged.

Trillions continue to pour into secret space programs, wars and other elitist pet projects, bankrupting economies worldwide. (Have you been listening to C.A. Fitts?)

5G is being implemented, in spite of protests, and that technology is actually a weapon that can render everyone essentially helpless with the flip of a switch.


World domination requires control of everyone's finances; their plans to chip everyone fell through.

They may consider that they are behind schedule so they probably want to push digital currency through asap.

When you connect all the dots, it's a daunting picture that threatens to burst any bubble of optimism, especially if it's misplaced.

I can understand not wanting to believe its come to this, and I wish I didn't!



Why would they give up this perfect system of control they have now for a system that is only going to create more problems for them? They dont want to be in the public's eye and it works pretty good for them at the moment. Most people on Earth still drink the koolaid and believe everything the news and Goverments tell them is the truth.

I see alot of the things you talk about but i interpret them different. For instance you do not mention the enourmous raise of conscience and awareness of people. More and more people "wake up" every day to some degree. You can see huge amounts of people who take matters into their own hands and quit their day job and go make some kind of social change themselves. There are a huge amount of factors into play here.

You see the glass half empty i see the glass half full. I have alot of hope and i trust in the future. It will be as it needs to be. Everything is playing out as it should. Put your seatbelt on and enjoy the ride!

[Ben]

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You don't have to imagine it.
You just have to read up on Agenda 21, on vaccines, on 5G, chemtrails, glysophate, censorship, mind control, and any number of other "conspiracy theories" that have been covered in great detail right here on this forum!
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions, but if you just leave it to your imagination, without sufficient research, then your conclusions are not likely to be based on reality.
It's a race--until they have established enough control, they will continue to court the public's good favor, but the tipping point appears to be fast approaching, as their arrogance continues to grow.


Apparently at least one faction of TPTB are preparing for the day when they no longer need the support of the public at all, judging from all the efforts and expense that are being poured into 5G and all the other means of controlling and dumbing down the populace.
And it looks like the implementation of 5G worldwide alone would ensure their total control.


Well they most certainly do need/want the support of the public for the things they do.


I cannot imagine this. They have put so much effort into swaying the minds of the public that i dont see them using a completely other kind of strategy. This would mean everybody knows they live as a slave on a planet of lies and corruption. Way too much risk on revolutions imo.

The controllers won't need public support when they implement the global digital currency and eliminate cash. This appears to be the final straw for complete control. Aaron Russo said this was the goal of the Rockefellers and their ilk so that they can turn off your bank account if you don't comply, question authority or speak out against or expose the NWO.

It also appears that we're in the final stage(s) of the implementation of this plan. The worldwide indebtedness is unsustainable and it appears that the controllers are triggering a worldwide financial collapse in order to come to the rescue with a reset and global cryptocurrency. They have already done this in the thirteen colonies [read US Constitution] and in Europe by establishing a common currency in the colonies and Europe. And people are gladly accepting digital currencies and the "convenience" of using their "smart" phones to buy pretty much anything now. Smart phones for dumb people.


Nothing to me seems like we are in the final stages of such a plan. Since the financial crisis of 2008 we are totally unsustainable. Our financial system is one big experiment with enourmous amounts of money being pumped into the system for years allready now. And its holding allready for 12 years. Who says it all coming crashing down soon? There is no evidence for that.

I too see plenty of evidence that cash is being phased out. Being in London yesterday and was shocked but not surprised that you can't pay for a bus ticket unless you have an oyster card or contactless.

The majority of people seem to lap it right up. They see it as signs of an advanced and enlightened future, that'll being us ever nearer to our rightful evolutionary place.

Assuming there will be (officially) a cashless society relatively soon, a question I've pondered a lot, is this: if the rest of the, shall we say 'unbrainwashed', are to carry on the good fight ie keeping indigenous traditions alive, practicing compassion, community living etc etc, what are we going to do, on terms of keeping under the radar?

This is especially a question that's looking for answers for people who aren't already 'prepped' up for any imminent financial skulduggery.

Like me, to a not insignificant:sun: extent.

[Ben]

As much as I don't want this, my gut, heart and brain seem to agree that this agenda, a.i., 5g, food supply poisoning, and much more, is nothing less than a dehumanising war on our souls.

I do however, believe there are enough of US, that we can turn all this into the heaven on earth, that as the creator gods we all are, is fully within our capabilities.

As long as we all do our own inner healing work too. Ancestral healing feels vitaly important to me in this regard.

[onawah]

Recently Retired USAF General Makes Eyebrow-Raising Claims About Advanced Space Technology
by Tyler Durden
Sun, 12/15/2019
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/recently-retired-usaf-general-makes-eyebrow-raising-claims-about-advanced-space

(Also see: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1326846&viewfull=1#post1326846 )

Authored by Brett Tingley via TheDrive.com,

"Recently retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant General Steven L. Kwast gave a lecture last month that seems to further signal that the next major battlefield will be outer space. While military leadership rattling the space sabers is nothing new, Kwast’s lecture included comments that heavily hint at the possibility that the United States military and its industry partners may have already developed next-generation technologies that have the potential to drastically change the aerospace field, and human civilization, forever. Is this mere posturing or could we actually be on the verge of making science fiction a reality?

Who Is Steven Kwast?
According to his official USAF biography, Lt. Gen. Kwast graduated from the United States Air Force Academy with a degree in astronautical engineering, and also holds a master’s degree in public policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. Kwast previously served as Commander of the 47th Operations Group at Laughlin Air Force Base and the 4th Fighter Wing at Seymour Johnson AFB. Kwast boasts more than 3,300 flight hours in the F-15E, T-6, T-37, and T-38 and over 650 combat hours.

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Despite the controversy surrounding his removal from his post at AETC, some defense analysts and Lt. Gen. Kwast’s own supporters within the Armed Forces were suggesting prior to his retirement that he should be appointed as Commander of the Pentagon's budding Space Force. Kwast has published several op-eds in recent years pushing for the U.S. military to take on a greater role in space in order to ensure American economic dominance and what he sees as the continued proliferation of American values. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/10/space-race-kwast-768751

Gaining The High Ground In Space
Kwast delivered a lecture at Hillsdale College in Washington, D.C. on November 20, 2019, titled “The Urgent Need for a U.S. Space Force.” https://dc.hillsdale.edu/News/Latest-News/The-Urgent-Need-for-a-U-S-Space-Force/ Kwast’s wide-ranging speech described the power of new technologies to revolutionize humankind, referencing the competitive advantage the discovery of fire offered to early humans and the strategic value that nuclear weapons offered 20th-century superpowers. When it comes to current revolutionary technologies, Kwast says the “the power of space will change world power forever” and that it’s up to the United States military to leverage that power:


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"As a historian, reflecting on the fact that throughout the history of mankind… technology has always changed world power. But the story of rejecting the new and holding and clinging to the paradigms of the past is why no civilization has ever lasted forever, and values are trumped by other values when another civilization figures out a way of finding a competitive advantage. The nature of power, you either have it and your values rule or you do not have it and you must submit. We see that play out again and again in history and it’s playing out now."
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As has been common as of late, Lt. Gen Kwast cites rapidly growing Chinese military and technological advances as the reason why the United States must invest heavily in new space-based technologies. “We can say today we are dominant in space but the trend lines are what you have to look at and they will pass us in the next few years if we do not do something. They will win this race and then they will put roadblocks up to space,” Kwast argues, “because once you get the high ground, that strategic high ground, it’s curtains for anybody trying to get to that high ground behind them.”

Kwast claims China is already building a “Navy in space” complete with the space-based equivalents of "battleships and destroyers" which are “able to maneuver and kill and communicate with dominance, and we [the United States] are not.” Kwast’s speech centers on the thesis that the United States needs a Space Force in order to counter Chinese advances and win the competition over the economy of the future and, as an extension, who sets the values of the future:

"Space is the Navy for the 21st century economy, a networked economy that will dominate any linear terrestrial economy in the four engines of growth and dominance that change world power: transportation, information, energy, and manufacturing. [...] Whoever gets to the new market sets the values for that market. And we could either have the market with the values of our Constitution [...] or we could have the values we see manifest in China."

As we’ve reported previously, there have been hints of radical new technologies under development by the military and, just as in Kwast’s speech, Chinese advances have been cited as the reason why these technologies are needed. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30256/scientist-behind-the-navys-ufo-patents-has-now-filed-one-for-a-compact-fusion-reactor
China has been rapidly expanding its presence in space in recent years, placing a lander on the far side of the moon in late 2018 in what some say was a push to scout natural resources with which to develop a permanent lunar manufacturing center. China has also been developing “mothership” aircraft from which to rapidly and unpredictably launch spaceplanes and other payloads into space. The country has also launched several eyebrow-raising satellites in recent years which some analysts claim could be used in anti-satellite warfare. Beyond all this, they have been investing heavily in a traditional space program that includes many facets of manned and unmanned space technologies that rivals, and in some ways, exceeds our own.
Setting the Stage for 21st Century Warfare
Kwast argues that the scientists, engineers, historians, and strategists of today have been pushing the U.S. Congress to more heavily and more rapidly fund the Space Force and associated technologies, but there is still some pushback and confusion as to why these are presently needed. Kwast ultimately makes the case that the United States must be able to bring kinetic power, non-kinetic power, and informational power to the battlefield cheaper and faster than its adversaries in order to ensure strategic advantage in space.

Around the 12:00 mark in the speech, Kwast makes the somewhat bizarre claim that the U.S. currently possesses revolutionary technologies that could render current aerospace capabilities obsolete:

"The technology is on the engineering benches today. But most Americans and most members of Congress have not had time to really look deeply at what is going on here. But I’ve had the benefit of 33 years of studying and becoming friends with these scientists. This technology can be built today with technology that is not developmental to deliver any human being from any place on planet Earth to any other place in less than an hour."

Kwast’s comment is only one of several curious comments made by military leadership lately and they do seem to claim that we could be on the precipice of a great leap in transportation technology. We also don't know exactly where he is coming from on all this as it is not necessarily the direct wheelhouse of someone who was running the Air Force's training portfolio, although it does have overlaps. Whether or not the revolutionary aerospace technologies Kwast mentions have actually been developed is one thing, but Kwast’s lecture, his recent op-eds, and his supporters make it clear that there are many within the U.S. military and analyst community who have felt that there is a great need to boost investment in American space technologies and the U.S. military’s presence in space. That vision is certainly taking root across the Defense Department.

Is all this setting the stage for a new space race that will benefit mankind by furthering scientific and technological development, or is it ushering in the conditions for the first great space war? Only time will tell, but according to Kwast, the technologies needed to win that war may be more science fact than fiction."

[ExomatrixTV]

Is it not funny that most Declassification of "Secret (Military Air Force) Space Projects" documents will most likely have date-stamps BEFORE Trump announced on June 18, 2018 (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/18/its-official-trump-announces-space-force-6th-military-branch.html) to the world that USA will weaponize space!

December 14, 2019: Trump gets Space Force as act passes through both parties (https://nypost.com/2019/12/14/trump-gets-space-force-as-act-passes-through-both-parties/)

US Space Force: Here's what we know (CNET News):
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Could Trump's 'Space Force' become a reality? - BBC News
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[ExomatrixTV]

Remember this one?: X-37B - What is it doing up there? ... Retrospective related to current Space Force?
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Remember this one?: New spy plane? You be the judge! ... Retrospective related to new Space Force?
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[ExomatrixTV]

Could it be that possible (future) "Declassification of "Secret (Military Air Force) Space Projects" is part of a Psychological Warfare Against China? Like playing "4D or 5D Chess"?

[amor]

well! And I thought I was the ONLY FIRE BRAND ON Avalon! I see I have got lots of company. It must be catching. We may have to call out the FIRE WAGONS, and I am not even IRISH, I THINK.

[mountain_jim]

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[ExomatrixTV]

[12.22] SPACE FORCE! - Tic Tacs - UFOs in the Mainstream - The REAL Reasons Govt. Keeps UFOs Secret:
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Related: Tom DeLonge reveals he is a Freemason:
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[amor]

The UFO SCAM was devised by the Nazis who own and control the companies which have engineered the UFO's. The Nazi mentality is painfully obvious to me even on the County level of government by many in official posts. These Companies were in competition with each other to get into space first and grab planetary real estate and manufacturing resources. In so doing, they have apparently, according to the stories I have read, enslaved kidnapped humans into endless servitude off planet, sold human beings to Aliens who reduce them to pulp and sell them as food to other off world Aliens. They have kidnapped humans, extracted their souls and stored them in faraday cages. They are making multiple clones to take the places of those in High Places and substituting them for the real humans, and on and on. Apparently, the military is in cahoots with them e.g. Dulcie, New Mexico.

And now, we hear that China is big in the space program. If the USA does not get the upper hand, China will Clean Their Clock, which I predicted would happen with Trade. Like it or not, we have the SPACE RACE for territory and resources. I would like to see all of these vultures transport themselves to other Universes, get lost, and leave the rest of us in peace, UN-MIND CONTROLLED, freed from slavery at last and have us return to a peaceful agrarian society where everyone has at least a small home and much to eat, where HMO Health Care (?) is not waiting to give the elderly a "memory test" as an excuse to send them to the Haldol Nursing Home Death Camp, where they die within the year, whether or not they need it. We need FREE ENERGY without wasteful production, leaving the world as a garbage dump. If you can't recycle everything, you don't make it. Places like Monsanto and Bayer need to be sent to Murderers Nazi Heaven. If we really need to eat proteins, then manufacture them from nature without TORTURING poor animals which absolutely DO HAVE SOULS. Life is absolutely SACRED!

[BMJ]

In short General Steve Kwast is suggesting ChinaCCP is ahead of the west int he new space race and we have some catching up to do.

This new space race one in which the west has to ensure it has a stack in to secure it future economically and militarily against communist China.

The advances space can offer would be akin to the jump in technology say from the bow & arrow to the gun, or horse to automobile.

Side note, is it just me our is it all starting to smell like the beginnings of Cold War 2.0 or Space Race 2.0 the big winner being the military industrial complex aka the cabal or deep state.


The Candace Owens Show: General Steve Kwast

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PragerU
17 Feb 2020
Can the creation of a U.S. military space force boost the economy, maintain American sovereignty, and preserve world peace? General Steve Kwast joins Candace Owens this week for a discussion on how a national space force will impact global relations.

Lieutenant General Steven L. Kwast
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_L._Kwast