Prince Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well... Looks like the so called royal family is slowly being dismantled.... *shrugs*


The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

In a statement released by Buckingham Palace, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The couple said they will continue to "fully support" the Queen.

Last October, Prince Harry and Meghan publicly revealed their struggles under the media spotlight.

In their statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen.

"It is with your encouragement, particularly over the last few years, that we feel prepared to make this adjustment."

In full: Buckingham Palace statement
They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

Over Christmas, the couple took a six-week break from royal duties to spend some time in Canada with their son, Archie, who was born in May.

More here...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51040751


Viking

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Wow. I'm actually seriously amazed. Seriously. I have no idea what this means, it's unprecedented. Absolutely unprecedented.

I wonder if there's a clue in the statement Harry released. The mind boggles to be honest. It could have multiple interesting connotations.

"I lost my mother and now I watch my wife falling victim to the same powerful forces."

[AutumnW]

What Meagan wants, Meagan gets. I admit I blanched, clutched my pearls and landed squarely on my fainting bench when I heard.

[Earth Angel]

Wonder if this is all part of the end of the Royals. The queen has not been wearing her crown for any of her recent appearances

[yelik]

As I understand Prince Harry is not the son of Prince Charles's but more likely the son of an affair James Hewitt and Princess Diana. I suspect this move is because Prince Harry, technically, has no Royal hereditary rights, but I don't think they'll let him starve

[James]

As I understand Prince Harry is not the son of Prince Charles's but more likely the son of an affair James Hewitt and Princess Diana.

I’m definitely not convinced of this. Harry looks nearly identical to his grandfather, Prince Philip, especially when matched by age. He looks the part of his paternal line.

I’m more inclined to believe it’s a “happy wife, happy life” type situation with the two. Could there be a more powerful force in the universe?

:sun:

[Justplain]

Hasn't this whole 'royalty' shtick run out its usefulness? At one time, perhaps people needed to believe that someone was more important than them, someone 'special', worth even dying for. But that psyop is starting to fade, no?

Perhaps Meghan shone a light in Harry's life which said 'this situation is just too unreal' and it's time to bail out.

The cult of celebrity is still a major problem in modern society, and these two will still be part of that. However, the sooner we all realize that what the Kardashians, or the 'royals', had for their last meal is no more important than what your dog ate last, the sooner this place will be a more sane place.

[scotslad]

Everyone else appears to be starting the year getting VEGAN'd,
as for Harry, he's been well and trully MEGAN'd

They want to make their own money apparently and not do any royal duties

They dont like the press attention apparently, but they probably want the millions from doing documentatries talking about their elite lifestyle.

Ironic that they dont like the press enquiring about their lifestyle, yet they appear to want to live the celebrity lifestyle.

Forgive me, but doesnt that involve lots of press and paparazzi attention?

They don't like following protocol apparently and really engratiated his dad, brother and Granny by announcing their intentions via instagram instead of telling their family first

They still want their £650K pa security detail and Frogmore cottage in Windsor which was renovated with £2.4m tax payers money.

They will give up their future sovereign grant (money from taxpayers to queen), but will keep the funds received from Daddy's estate.

It's a shame being worth £34m, but not able to make your own money. Aw bless.

More here (and everywhere else on the web) -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7866799/Couple-plan-launch-lucrative-careers-raking-MILLIONS.html

[Peter UK]

Hasn't this whole 'royalty' shtick run out its usefulness? At one time, perhaps people needed to believe that someone was more important than them, someone 'special', worth even dying for. But that psyop is starting to fade, no?

Perhaps Meghan shone a light in Harry's life which said 'this situation is just too unreal' and it's time to bail out.

The cult of celebrity is still a major problem in modern society, and these two will still be part of that. However, the sooner we all realize that what the Kardashians, or the 'royals', had for their last meal is no more important than what your dog ate last, the sooner this place will be a more sane place.

The erosion of royalty is a slow almost imperceptible thing but I would think it is happening, what it will take to be the final nail in the coffin is difficult to say. The problem is the unawake public imagination where royalty can still find a home, I regret to say this is probably more true in the UK than anywhere else, it looms large as archetype, myth, history and institution.

David Icke has done an immense amount in challenging these notions in a completely uncompromising fashion and he must be a complete thorn in their side. One might wonder why he's not been taken out but he himself has stated that tptb just can't do it.

Why Can't David Icke Be 'Taken Out'

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[scotslad]

£20m from mum's estate, £7m from Great Granny's estate and £2m per annum from "Dad's" estate - it's ok hun, we'll be ok ;)

[Meryl]

Thanks for the Icke post! What a fabulous little pep pill it is! Ickie's a legend............as we would say in the land of OZ. Except we didn't let him in the country!
He uses the word, Maverick. Inspirational. Meryl.

[Bluegreen]

Americans imitating Brits!
:pound:

"When Harry Met Meghan"

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[mountain_jim]

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[Pam]

What Meagan wants, Meagan gets. I admit I blanched, clutched my pearls and landed squarely on my fainting bench when I heard.

Well, take comfort in the fact that they will be with you in Canada for 6 weeks. That must count for something.

[scotslad]

oh oh, they must have spoken to one of their "celebrity" friends - coreygoode - cos they appear have registered their own trademark a while ago - all part of the plan ;)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/09/09/22723180-0-The_royals_have_submitted_a_number_of_trademark_applications_for-a-4_1578560589417.jpg

Remember a previous english monarch and american divorcee, I think this might all end in tears yet?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7868315/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-trademarked-100-items.html

eee me.

[snoman]

personally, i think any move by a 'royal' to move out of the circus is a step in the right direction.
a bloodline in perpetual prominence is cultural dominance of the notion of hierarchy.

damned if they do and damned if they don't

i'm hoping that the backlash sees them come out and say that actually they want to renounce the whole royal shebang and evaporate into the masses.

[scotslad]

I wonder, did the queen know and sign off their trademark application, there does appear to be interesting rules if they are stepping down in their "royal duties" -

http://www.trademarkroom.com/blog/item/can-i-use-the-term-royal-in-my-trademark

[Chester]

As I understand Prince Harry is not the son of Prince Charles's but more likely the son of an affair James Hewitt and Princess Diana.

I’m definitely not convinced of this. Harry looks nearly identical to his grandfather, Prince Philip, especially when matched by age. He looks the part of his paternal line.

I’m more inclined to believe it’s a “happy wife, happy life” type situation with the two. Could there be a more powerful force in the universe?

:sun:

Works for me.

[Kryztian]

Queen Announces She Is Also Leaving Royal Family

https://i.imgur.com/84xBvVZ.jpg

The Queen says she’s done, and will leave the Royal Family by the end of the week.

In a post on her Instagram account, Queen Elizabeth said that after 50 years of reflection and internal discussion she can’t stand another week propping up this ridiculous institution.


“**** it, I’m done. Absolutely, 100% done.

I don’t even know why I’ve stayed around for so long with this bunch of weirdos.

My first son wants to be reborn as a tampon, my second son hangs around with convicted sex offenders and doesn’t know how to sweat, and now my grandson wants to just **** off to Canada like he’s on some kind of all-expenses-paid gap year.

You want some space do you? Have fun in your two bedroom flat in Toronto. Don’t come crying to me when you want your forty room palace back. I won’t be around, because I’m gone. Out. Of. Here.

No, I won’t be launching a charitable entity. No, I won’t be sharing the details of my next exciting step ‘in due course’, and no, I won’t be becoming ‘financially independent’, whatever the **** that means.

What I will be doing is having a bit of me time. A cruise maybe. A spa retreat perhaps. Don’t @ me.

Goodbye.

http://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/01/09/queen-announces-she-is-also-leaving-royal-family/?fbclid=IwAR2s6pYjZ5imCZ55JWbZ2iKK7Tt_ZHk4LaL9ojV1f02Rif8AEpna7FFy_5g

[onawah]

Royals photographer reveals insight into Harry, Meghan's departure | Today Show Australia
Jan 9, 2020

"Long-time Royals photographer Arthur Edwards reveals insight into Harry and Meghan's decision to step down from senior royal duties."

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(No mention made of how the Prince Andrew scandal might have factored in.)

[Bluegreen]

You're right

:handshake:

https://blindgossip.com/her-own-game/#more-99317

[sleepydumpling]

It's certainly taken a lot of heat away from Harry's uncle Randy Andy.

[snoman]

wow bluegreen, that's quite a damnation of meghan there.
as they say, it takes two to tango
the tone of the blog piece you linked is almost identical to how wallis simpson was trashed by the royals and anyone who read and agreed with that slant.
both prince edward and harry are the innocents and the royal institution at risk to these scheming game-playing women
I actually find that pretty offensive, reactionary, and pathetic.

> edit: thanks for the edit bluegreen :thumbsup:

[prc]

I am under the impression that Her Majesty The Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth secretly reigns all over the world. The entire life of all The Royal Family is Broadcasted monthly in all major TV NEWs, newspapers and magazines in Brazil. Apparently we have little relashionship with United Kingdom, we are not their colony, we don´t speak english, we don´t descend from British however they insist to keep us informed of all their deeds and developments. They must pay all our Mainstream media here to spread their news. I have zero interest in their lifestyles, their deeds or their heirs.
And I suspect that they broadcast their lifes from Brazil to Phillipines, from Antarctica to North Pole as if they were the sovereign everywhere on the globe. They also have a lot of Real State here.

[ZenBaller]

Apart from the obvious ridiculousness of this, it's probably the beginning of an agenda. A chain of events in the following years to promote a specific image/role for those two.

[sleepydumpling]

This is all theatre and all part of an act to take attention away from Harry's uncle Randy Andy.

Andrew's behaviour was in danger of opening up the floodgates to the vile behaviour of those at the top so the not very elite have come up with a way to take attention away from them.

Harry and Meghan can go and do whatever until it's time for his father or brother to be crowned.
Then they will be brought back into the family and all is forgiven.
Also while all this is going on what real news that is important is being buried by all those parasites

[Clarity]

I'm just throwing a few things out here as I really haven't paid any attention to these two in the past but something just feels 'off' about this whole situation.

In Jan 2019 MM had a private meeting with New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, the rumors at the time was that MM was asking for NZ to continue donating to the Clinton Foundation. After some public pressure the NZ government cease donating to the CF later that year.

H & M break away from the Charity Foundation they have with the Cambridge's and form their own with the help of ex Clinton Advisor Sara Latham along with a whole load of Trade Marked products under the 'Sussex Royal' Brand and decide they are off to North America.

What if the Sussex's Charity Foundation is being set up in order to take over from the Clintons Foundation now that income streams have dried up. In order to do that they would have to move away, too much scrutiny from the British Press and how do you move away when your Royalty - you create drama - a hostile environment which you couldn't possibly continue living in. There's a lot on the internet about how this has or could be done.

What if M's role was to be the handler (my guest is Jessica Mulroney is her handler.) Her constant PDA's are a control mechanism, her favorite being the tap on the back of the upper arm. How does a confident man who has served in the Military and done two tours of duty without issue,suddenly (over the last 18th months) start suffering from mental health issues and is described as being 'at breaking point.' Part of the plan or genuine?

M's past (which has been wiped from the internet) is a rabbit hole with unlimited number of rumors including involvement in NXIVM,

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on twitter...saying 'Knowing what he knows' everyone else would do the same?

https://twitter.com/meghanysl/status/1215104406225592320?s=20

Viking

[Ratszinger]

This is just the royal rascals taking advantage of some acting now available to them within the family because this dog and pony show is brought to you by the royal advisers that want to take attention well away from the sexcapades of Andrew who you notice now quite conveniently has taken a back seat to focus on the pretty young couple and this faux rift in the family! I call BS! See past the smoke screen you can see the obviousness of this scam!

[Clarity]

Found this on twitter...saying 'Knowing what he knows' everyone else would do the same?

https://twitter.com/meghanysl/status/1215104406225592320?s=20

Viking


One of the Twitter rumors floating around is that Prince harry has been swapped, maybe this interview was the catalyst.

Real Prince Harry has Blue eyes the new 'fake' Harry has brown eyes and is American.

Not sure how to attached photos here, look up old photos of Harry and you'll see he has his Mothers blue eye colouring, then look up the recent photos of him in the Santa suit released from their Canada break - in these photos he has brown eyes.

And now BP tells us we have a 'period of transition.'

[sunwings]

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[onawah]

Here's that video of Prince Harry saying "if anybody else knew what I knew"

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On this page see the video in which he says “I will not be bullied into playing a game that killed my mom”:
https://twitter.com/meghanysl/status/1215104406225592320?s=20

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[onawah]

Prince Harry's eyes:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/37m0-9vNZ6diJx-tnRFyazcZzzs/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2018/10/15/774/n/44701584/9ee94ca45bc4cfba09cc60.48938510_/i/What-Prince-Harry-Eye-Color.jpg


https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2019/12/21/7be0d182-f359-44df-a1ca-acf4fa93ceb3-harry.jpg?w=1020&h=574&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format&q=70

I don't think you can really tell from the photo of Harry in the Santa suit what the eye color is-- the lighting isn't bright enough, and it's not enough of a close-up shot.
In any case, I doubt very much, if there is a fake Harry, that he would neglect to wear contacts that would match the color of the real Harry if necessary.
Although it's not too far a reach, considering what he's said regarding how he feels about his mother and what he knows about that, that the Royals would want to replace him.
And we know Liz isn't that happy with Meghan either.
But if they wee going to replace one, I think they would have to replace both, which would be very hard to hide.


[QUOTE=sunwings;1331372]If anyone has a right to be mad at Harry and Meghan it's the people of Sussex, who have been left leaderless without their Duke and who are now defenseless against incursions from Hampshire and Kent. :ROFL:

[Clarity]

But if they wee going to replace one, I think they would have to replace both, which would be very hard to hide.

Not necessary if M is his Handler (with Jessica Mulroney being hers) has been involved since the start and will do anything to be part of the club.

Most likely the fake H was only suppose to be used if the drugs/MK ultra were breaking down.

[Arcturian108]

just found this in the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2020/jan/13/martin-rowson-queen-royal-family-summit-cartoon#img-1

[RunningDeer]

just found this in the Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2020/jan/13/martin-rowson-queen-royal-family-summit-cartoon#img-1
Guessing it's this.

https://i.imgur.com/D0kXS8i.jpg

[onawah]

I've always thought it very funny and ironic that Elizabeth (or Lizzie for short) is the Queen's name. :lol: :croc:

just found this in the Guardian:

Guessing it's this.

[Arcturian108]

just found this in the Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2020/jan/13/martin-rowson-queen-royal-family-summit-cartoon#img-1
Guessing it's this.

https://i.imgur.com/D0kXS8i.jpg

Yes, that is the picture I was trying to upload. So good! Thanks.

[mountain_jim]

I've always thought it very funny and ironic that Elizabeth (or Lizzie for short) is the Queen's name. :lol: :croc:

just found this in the Guardian:

Guessing it's this.


I have to quote this post for it's great emoticon use. :bigsmile:

[onawah]

It seems like all this fuss has been a great distraction from the Prince Andrew scandal, and as long as he stays out of the limelight, most likely Harry and Meghan's situation will keep the MSM well provided with material to keep the public's hunger for gossip satisfied.

[Clarity]

I posted a couple of days ago regarding Jessica Mulroney being Meghan Markle’s handler (and MM Prince Harry’s) - today the Daily Mail had an article on Jessica which included a photo of the two together.

Notice the ring Jessica is wearing and why would Prince Harry need a handler?

http://https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7887993/Meghan-Markles-closest-confidante-Jessica-Mulroney-tried-fix-press-article-Duchess.html

[Tintin]

Royals photographer reveals insight into Harry, Meghan's departure | Today Show Australia
Jan 9, 2020

"Long-time Royals photographer Arthur Edwards reveals insight into Harry and Meghan's decision to step down from senior royal duties."

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(No mention made of how the Prince Andrew scandal might have factored in.)

Thanks for this onawah: as we can see the film footage is now no longer on youtube :sherlock:

I'll continue to try and find a substitute.

[Tintin]

Not sure how to attach(ed) photos here,..
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Thanks for raising that Clarity.

Attaching photos is a tiny little bit long-winded at first, but, you'll get the hang of it fairly quickly with practice.

Please do see this resource here in the FAQs section.
Link: http://projectavalon.net/FAQs.htm#5

Any problems then do just report it to the Mods and we'll do what we can to provide further support.

:highfive:

[greybeard]

My honest opinion is that--When you get married supporting with love your spouse is the most important thing.
Megan married Harry--the love of her life--the father of their child--she did not marry a Prince a member of the Monarchy--thats a function not Harry--its there but incidental compared to the love for each other that they obviously have.
Its their life, their descision--nothing to do with the media or anyone else--nobody owns them.

Chris

[RunningDeer]

I posted a couple of days ago regarding Jessica Mulroney being Meghan Markle’s handler (and MM Prince Harry’s) - today the Daily Mail had an article on Jessica which included a photo of the two together.

Notice the ring Jessica is wearing and why would Prince Harry need a handler?

http://https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7887993/Meghan-Markles-closest-confidante-Jessica-Mulroney-tried-fix-press-article-Duchess.html

Fixed link: Meghan Markle's closest confidante Jessica Mulroney 'tried to fix a press article' for the Duchess (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7887993/Meghan-Markles-closest-confidante-Jessica-Mulroney-tried-fix-press-article-Duchess.html)


https://i.imgur.com/dFNaTxY.jpg

[Bluegreen]

I can certainly empathize with a young man with a new wife wanting to break away from a controlling family and establish a new life. Been there done that. However, my understanding is, as the Duke of Sussex, the Prince is one of the political leaders of said region and as such has certain responsibilities to the citizens.

Or is this just an arbitrary title picked out of a hat and he has nothing to do with the people that live there?

Please pardon this American's lack of knowledge.

[Mark]

Its their life, their descision--nothing to do with the media or anyone else--nobody owns them.

I think you're absolutely right, Chris. Harry knows that Meghan is getting the same shyte job worked on her just like his mother got, before she was murdered. He obviously doesn't want that to happen and Meghan is an American and has seen that machine work on the European continent as well as the American. Their obvious calculus is that they need distance, she has already been relegated to all kinds of negative spaces. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out. I don't believe it is like ANYTHING that has happened before. This is a new story and it does signal a crack in the ranks of the Royals, but even moreso, a defensive move to protect themselves and their child from what looks to be a preconceived plan to demonize her, which will lead to even more negative outcomes in the future.

[boja]

Click on Image to Enlarge

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In my humble opinion, Prince Harry looks more like James Hewitt (Princess Diana's ex-boyfriend) than he does like Prince Charles !

[Caliban]

My honest opinion is that--When you get married supporting with love your spouse is the most important thing.
Megan married Harry--the love of her life--the father of their child--she did not marry a Prince a member of the Monarchy--thats a function not Harry--its there but incidental compared to the love for each other that they obviously have.
Its their life, their descision--nothing to do with the media or anyone else--nobody owns them.

Chris

As always I respect your honest opinion Chris, but I offer this:

If they're being wholly supported (residences, security, travel, etc.) by the British people, then in a way, they are owned by them. (Or, you can say they "own" the British people. Either way it's a very symbiotic relationship) So, I think when you own something, you are allowed to express an opinion about it.

And she didn't just marry a "man", she most certainly married a Prince--someone with power and influence in this world. You think she would have married this guy if he was a barista in West Hollywood? Maybe a fling sure, he's not a bad looking bloke but...

If they give up everything, all the public money being used to support them--and pay back all that has supported them--I may take this a little more seriously. But then, there's no way to verify that. I don't judge them as human beings. But you can't view them with any deeper scrutiny without seeing them in their roles. Owned/Owners. Maybe Icke can tell us which form of the verb it should be.

[onawah]

NO problem. IT wasn't actually revealing at all, having been one of the earlier interviews. The interviewee seemed to be pretty much of a Royalist, and so not inclined to let anything really very interesting slip out.
In some of the later ones, the subject of the Prince Andrew scandal did come up, and I don't think we'll be getting the whole story unless that's factored in.
Although that may have been just the excuse Harry needed to make his getaway.




Royals photographer reveals insight into Harry, Meghan's departure | Today Show Australia
Jan 9, 2020

"Long-time Royals photographer Arthur Edwards reveals insight into Harry and Meghan's decision to step down from senior royal duties."

(No mention made of how the Prince Andrew scandal might have factored in.)

Thanks for this onawah: as we can see the film footage is now no longer on youtube :sherlock:

I'll continue to try and find a substitute.

[Akasha]

A lighthearted take on the situation from a mainstream reporter (not really: it's Jonathan Pie - caution: strong language)


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[greybeard]

Canada's biggest newspaper says Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome there
Yahoo News UK Ellen Manning,Yahoo News UK


One of Canada’s biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren’t welcome in the country, saying it is “not a halfway house for anyone looking to get out of Britain while remaining a royal”.

An editorial in the Globe and Mail criticised Harry and Meghan’s decision to step back from royal duties, saying Canada shouldn’t allow them to move there.
LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 07: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex depart Canada House on January 07, 2020 in London, England. (Photo by Chris Jackson/Getty Images)
One of Canada's biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome in the country. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)

Meghan and Harry have said they plan to split their time between the UK and Canada as they work to forge a “progressive” new role within the Royal Family.

But the newspaper’s editorial said it isn’t quite that simple.

“Our royals don’t live here. They reign from a distance,” the editorial says.

And so it begins in Canadian media ---its a distortion of facts.
Thats what has happened in the UK
Sensational news sells papers.

Harry has no intention of reigning--anywhere.

As a parallel.
Just because you are born into a family business does not mean that you have a responsibility to be a full time member of that business.
There are quite a few ahead of Harry in succession to the throne.
However I do think the Sussex titles should be dispensed with.

Chris

[snoman]

archie is descended from slaves on both sides
go for freedom harry

[frankstien]

Excerpt from Benjamin Fulford's report:

"Speaking about avoiding assassination, Prince Harry of the UK has now come out publicly to say he fled to Canada to save his family from the same fate that befell his mother, Princess Diana.

https://twitter.com/aselfishhun/status/1215540281103331328?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1qmpVAVOLQO629fPt-20eEgycgJvce_Tt1HA1PXnCrDQww0P_7WnN2Wlk

Here is what a European royal had to say about the situation: “The whole thing is a disgrace and infuriating to us all. If the monarchy carries on like this, the people will show it the door. The matter will be managed carefully and correctly,” the source said. However, it is already certain that Prince Charles will never succeed to the throne of England, he said. The Gnostic Illuminati, who oppose bloodline rule, will for their part try to exploit this situation to overthrow the British Monarchy. Given the huge popular support in the UK for this institution, they will probably fail, but in the meantime, the tabloids will have a feast."


From Fulfords full article here--
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2020/01/16/full-article-benjamin-fulford-1-13-20-messianic-nut-case-iran-gambit-backfires-payback-begins/

[greybeard]

I cant help but think that if the British Media had been a bit less antagonistic to Meghan then there would not have been the situation we see now.
To see it from Harry's point of view you would have to have been through what he has been through.
There was the situation with his late mother and now the woman he loves is subject to the same hyper criticism.
So you have a now deceased mother and new wife subject to this--is it any wonder that he wants to take Meghan out of this--they cant win at media level--happy news does not sell newspapers for long.

Chris

[DeDukshyn]

Canada's biggest newspaper says Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome there
Yahoo News UK Ellen Manning,Yahoo News UK


One of Canada’s biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren’t welcome in the country, saying it is “not a halfway house for anyone looking to get out of Britain while remaining a royal”.

An editorial in the Globe and Mail criticised Harry and Meghan’s decision to step back from royal duties, saying Canada shouldn’t allow them to move there.
LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 07: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex depart Canada House on January 07, 2020 in London, England. (Photo by Chris Jackson/Getty Images)
One of Canada's biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome in the country. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)

Meghan and Harry have said they plan to split their time between the UK and Canada as they work to forge a “progressive” new role within the Royal Family.

But the newspaper’s editorial said it isn’t quite that simple.

“Our royals don’t live here. They reign from a distance,” the editorial says.

And so it begins in Canadian media ---its a distortion of facts.
Thats what has happened in the UK
Sensational news sells papers.

Harry has no intention of reigning--anywhere.

As a parallel.
Just because you are born into a family business does not mean that you have a responsibility to be a full time member of that business.
There are quite a few ahead of Harry in succession to the throne.
However I do think the Sussex titles should be dispensed with.

Chris


I'm agreeing with pretty much all of what you've stated on this thread thus far Chris.

That piece was written to stir controversy, as most editorial's these days are -- rants from angry right or left wing extremists usually. It's pretty common in Canada to have editorials written for no other purpose.

I don't think the majority of Canada even thinks of the Monarch as "ruling over us from a distance" -- or "ruling over us" at all. And we'd generally see the royals coming here to live for a bit like an extended visit. "Reigning" or "ruling" wouldn't be a part of any of it, lol ...

The real controversy here is whether Canadian taxpayers would be footing the bill for their security or not. That's the main hot topic here on the matter.

I get that this is a bit of a "conspiracy" forum, but if you followed Harry at all, I'm surprised he even ever got married (he used to come to Canada to party, and even had a fling with one of the patron's from "Cowboy's" - a night club in Calgary (where I live)). He never seemed to want to take his role of being a "royal" very seriously at all -- ever.

Considering his personality, I'm so not surprised he wants to step down from "royal duties" and get away from it al with his new wife - he never seemed remotely interested in the fact that he was a royal to begin with. So these theories, that's he'd been replaced with a robot/clone, or that this is planned to distract from such and such ... seem pretty far fetched, when his desire to get away from the royals and move to Canada with his Canadian wife would line up 100% with everything that has happened in the past, is an extremely reasonable explanation.

The fact that media may be instructed to emphasize this and downplay Prince Andrew is likely, but easily could have nothing to do with the decision to move here or step down from royal duties.

[greybeard]

I was a regular watcher of "Suits" and I recon the real nature of Meghan cam out in that series.
She is exactly what she seems to be--a lady who cares greatly what happens to people and is prepared to do something about it.
Her mother has kept a discrete silence--wish the same could be said for Sister and Father, he is prepared to testify against his daughter in a civil action brought against a Newspaper, what Father does that?
Chris

[onawah]

I didn't see where Harry said that on the Twitter page. He did say “I will not be bullied into playing a game that killed my mum” , which is not the same thing as "he fled to Canada to save his family from the same fate that befell his mother, Princess Diana".
.
I wouldn't trust anything that Fulford says. He is not a credible source.

Excerpt from Benjamin Fulford's report:

"Speaking about avoiding assassination, Prince Harry of the UK has now come out publicly to say he fled to Canada to save his family from the same fate that befell his mother, Princess Diana.

https://twitter.com/aselfishhun/status/1215540281103331328?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1qmpVAVOLQO629fPt-20eEgycgJvce_Tt1HA1PXnCrDQww0P_7WnN2Wlk

From Fulfords full article here--
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2020/01/16/full-article-benjamin-fulford-1-13-20-messianic-nut-case-iran-gambit-backfires-payback-begins/

[greybeard]

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry to lose their HRH titles after new deal thrashed out by Palace
[The Telegraph]

Phoebe Southworth
https://uk.yahoo.com/?guccounter=1

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will lose their HRH titles after stepping back as senior members of the Royal Family, Buckingham Palace have announced.

This means they can no longer formally represent the Queen. It is not yet clear if they will be able to keep their SussexRoyal online branding or will attend formal family events such as Trooping the Colour.

The decision was reached on Saturday after Palace aides spent days thrashing out a new arrangement for the young couple.

The Queen said in a statement: "Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family.

"Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family.

"I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life.

"I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.

"It is my whole family’s hope that today’s agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life."

Buckingham Palace said in a statement: "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are grateful to Her Majesty and the Royal Family for their ongoing support as they embark on the next chapter of their lives.

"As agreed in this new arrangement, they understand that they are required to step back from Royal duties, including official military appointments.

"They will no longer receive public funds for Royal duties. With The Queen’s blessing, the Sussexes will continue to maintain their private patronages and associations.

"While they can no longer formally represent The Queen, the Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.

"The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family.

"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared their wish to repay Sovereign Grant expenditure for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home. Buckingham Palace does not comment on the details of security arrangements.

"There are well established independent processes to determine the need for publiclyfunded security. This new model will take effect in the Spring of 2020."

------------------------------
I bet they are relieved--now atleast they can be a youngmarried couple with baby Archie.
They have spared him a "Royal life" hopefully
Congratulations to them.
Chris

Full statement from the Queen here

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/harry-meghan-step-back-royal-185637759.html


_______________________________

[happyuk]

It is my intuition (and also predicted by Credo Mutwa) that the British Monarchy is doomed.

Meghan Markle will undoubtedly act as a catalyst in that process. She has played the "person of colour" card as the basis for presenting herself as the victim in all of this, but this has always been a ridiculous idea. The British People on the whole never gave her ethnicity a second thought. It is her own narcissistic conduct that has led us to where we are today. Everything will now be fair game for her - saving the planet, smearing sex pests, finding misogynists and racists under every bed, championing unwise causes, earning endless consultancy fees and scooping ambassadorships. She can present herself as rejecting the HRH of sovereignty.....while still earning a living entirely on the basis of being a showgirl who married a Prince.

The rot began as far back as 1969, when the Windsors made the mistake of allowing the production of a TV documentary, The Royal Family. Sir David Attenborough – controller of BBC Two at the time – warned that the film was in danger of "killing the monarchy". The film critic Milton Shulman wrote with great prescience, "Every institution that has so far attempted to use TV to popularise or aggrandise itself has been trivialised by it".

I am not a royalist. But from here on in, Markle will continue to snipe from a safe distance from the outside. The average American, along with the British Left, will take her side.

I do say to all republicans - by all means recognise and denounce the British aristocracy as an archaic system of leadership choice...but nothing was ever going to be enough for Meghan, was it? A piece of destructive antimatter from the moment she got engaged to Prince Harry, she has finally achieved what she really wanted: a rival 'Monarchy' based on virtue-signalling charities, plus the ability to make as much money - and as many heart-on-sleeve daft politically correct soundbites as she sees fit.

[onawah]

It is also rumored that the NWO agenda is to eliminate the authority of the Royals as well as the Vatican and other more localized power structures, and have only one "Big Brother" type planetary authority, though that presumably, will include any elites from the eliminated structures that conform to the NWO guidelines.

[Stealthy Monk]

As I understand Prince Harry is not the son of Prince Charles's but more likely the son of an affair James Hewitt and Princess Diana. I suspect this move is because Prince Harry, technically, has no Royal hereditary rights, but I don't think they'll let him starve

https://i.ibb.co/2gq9fbT/harry1.jpg (https://ibb.co/NZxvH4M)
https://i.ibb.co/bmpg0V1/harry2.jpg (https://ibb.co/sRLvf4j)
https://i.ibb.co/LP0fsgK/harry3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Stealthy Monk]

It seems like all this fuss has been a great distraction from the Prince Andrew scandal, and as long as he stays out of the limelight, most likely Harry and Meghan's situation will keep the MSM well provided with material to keep the public's hunger for gossip satisfied.

That was my take on the interminable Royal reporting that has taken place since Andy's Newsnight interview on the BBC. I say interview, but it was more akin to the final moments of the Hindenburg. They've wheeled the old man to hospital and back, Willy and Kate did some song and dance at a kid's hospital, then Harry and Meghan's latest doings analysed in great detail -- I'd say the Royal PR machinery is working overtime to disperse the foul stench of paedophilia, an important task, lest we forget Charles' former partner in crime, Savile.
Where ever these unelected spongers go, prolific paedophiles always seem close at hand.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Duke of Sussex was at a formal private dinner in Chelsea, for vulnerable children's charity Sentebale, which he founded in 2006. Speaking on the general public's support of him, Prince Harry acknowledged: “When I lost my mum 23 years ago, you took me under your wing. “You’ve looked out for me for so long, but the media is a powerful force, and my hope is one day our collective support for each other can be more powerful because this is so much bigger than just us.”

Full story here...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1230648/royal-family-news-meghan-markle-duchess-sussex-prince-harry-princess-diana-speech

Viking

[onawah]

So summing it all up, it seems likely that it had become too obvious that Charles isn't Harry's Dad.
(It's easy enough to find out nowadays with DNA testing,and perhaps the truth leaked out--Harry has referred often in a circumspect way to things he can't disclose yet, but better for him and the royals the he should be more out of the public eye if it should become public knowledge).
And perhaps there were already plans to remove him from the line if he's not actually of Lizzie's bloodline, and rebellious as well.
His marriage to someone of mixed race served to render him even more undesirable as part of the royal Reptilian family; there have been reports that the Dracos are racists --even if the English people aren't!)
Perhaps Harry's felt alienated from the family for awhile, and knowing the family's (unacknowledged) racist bias, he deliberately took the opportunity to use Meghan's mixed racial heritage as a ticket out.
When Andrew blew it so badly with his last interview (though things were already heading downhill because of his undeniably close association with Epstein) and things really came to a head, Harry's rebelliousness could easily be used as the perfect distraction from Andrew's fauxpax.
So much so that Liz couldn't resist using it to take care of several pressing matters all in one fell swoop.
Remove the embarrassment of Meghan, remove Harry from the line to the crown, distract from Andrew.
How convenient!

[snoman]

It is my intuition (and also predicted by Credo Mutwa) that the British Monarchy is doomed.

Meghan Markle will undoubtedly act as a catalyst in that process. She has played the "person of colour" card as the basis for presenting herself as the victim in all of this, but this has always been a ridiculous idea. The British People on the whole never gave her ethnicity a second thought. It is her own narcissistic conduct that has led us to where we are today. Everything will now be fair game for her - saving the planet, smearing sex pests, finding misogynists and racists under every bed, championing unwise causes, earning endless consultancy fees and scooping ambassadorships. She can present herself as rejecting the HRH of sovereignty.....while still earning a living entirely on the basis of being a showgirl who married a Prince.

The rot began as far back as 1969, when the Windsors made the mistake of allowing the production of a TV documentary, The Royal Family. Sir David Attenborough – controller of BBC Two at the time – warned that the film was in danger of "killing the monarchy". The film critic Milton Shulman wrote with great prescience, "Every institution that has so far attempted to use TV to popularise or aggrandise itself has been trivialised by it".

I am not a royalist. But from here on in, Markle will continue to snipe from a safe distance from the outside. The average American, along with the British Left, will take her side.

I do say to all republicans - by all means recognise and denounce the British aristocracy as an archaic system of leadership choice...but nothing was ever going to be enough for Meghan, was it? A piece of destructive antimatter from the moment she got engaged to Prince Harry, she has finally achieved what she really wanted: a rival 'Monarchy' based on virtue-signalling charities, plus the ability to make as much money - and as many heart-on-sleeve daft politically correct soundbites as she sees fit.

that's rather a large helping of vitriol.

unless, if i'm mistaken, you have evidence of any of this meghan plot.
in which case I will take back my assessment of your piece.

is harry a dormant slumbering idiot who has no self volition?
if so, better he is out than taint the institution.

I find it rather repulsive reading.
I read posts hoping to be enlightened.

[enfoldedblue]

Just adding my two cents in the who is Harry's real father question. As an artists trained to pay attention to facial details I feel I have a good eye for these things. Back when the story of Diana's affair with James Hewitt came out I was convinced James was Harry's real dad. But as Harry has aged he actually looks more and more like Charles...to the point that I had to admit I was wrong.

The area between their eyes is what gives the relationship away. The bridge of the nose ...between the close set eyes is exactly the same. And the father/grandfather has the same unmistakable bridge.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn4.img.sputniknews.com%2Fimages%2F107505%2F16%2F1075051640.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c28bcb7a352e7ecfaa2e793d95e94617

The weird thing in this case is that he actually looks like a mix of BOTH Charles and James....

Anyway ultimately this doesn't matter in the least...except in its capacity to draw us into a distracting story .... I just couldn't resist commenting so it's clearly working...lol

[onawah]

As an intuitive, I'd say his spirit is more like James's.
And the bridge of the nose looks similar in both cases.
Note the very pronounced swelling just below the bridge in both Harry's and James's noses, where Charles's nose continues to be more slender, almost pinched, all the way down.

If Harry was discovered to be James's son, that would surely have given the Royals more reason to get rid of Diana, as well.

https://i.ibb.co/bmpg0V1/harry2.jpg

But then there's this:
https://www.ibtimes.com/prince-harrys-father-james-hewitt-or-prince-charles-genetic-proof-revealed-2773538

"According to Stevenson, the most common cause of male pattern baldness is genetics and its onset is largely unavoidable. Age and lifestyle can also play a part as well as stress.

“A genetic expert shared a crucial detail about Prince Harry that revealed the identity of his real father.
"This type of hair loss causes a sudden widespread thinning, rather than a receding hairline, and hair growth usually returns to normal within months of managing stress so again, it’s unlikely that this is causing Harry’s hair loss as his hair has been getting progressively thinner for some time,” Stevenson explained.

The expert noted that for Prince Harry’s case, the main cause of his hair loss is genetics.

“Unfortunately, it appears that he – like his brother Prince William – has the MPB (male pattern baldness) gene and it won’t be long before we notice his haircuts getting shorter to help minimise the appearance of thinning,” Steven explained. "

Unless both of Diana's sons weren't fathered by Charles...:idea: :jester:

[DeDukshyn]

Just adding my two cents in the who is Harry's real father question. As an artists trained to pay attention to facial details I feel I have a good eye for these things. Back when the story of Diana's affair with James Hewitt came out I was convinced James was Harry's real dad. But as Harry has aged he actually looks more and more like Charles...to the point that I had to admit I was wrong.

The area between their eyes is what gives the relationship away. The bridge of the nose ...between the close set eyes is exactly the same. And the father/grandfather has the same unmistakable bridge.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn4.img.sputniknews.com%2Fimages%2F107505%2F16%2F1075051640.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c28bcb7a352e7ecfaa2e793d95e94617

The weird thing in this case is that he actually looks like a mix of BOTH Charles and James....

Anyway ultimately this doesn't matter in the least...except in its capacity to draw us into a distracting story .... I just couldn't resist commenting so it's clearly working...lol

Harry looks way more like Charles now than that other guy - and I also see some of Philip quite clearly in him now as well. Its the eyes. Eye spacing and depth. Exactly like Charles / Philip - nothing like the other dude.


Just a side note: Genetic "Male Pattern Baldness" comes in from the "X" (female) chromosome. The name is a bit of a misnomer.

[onawah]

Good point! :idea::thumbsup:It looks like the "expert" was obfuscating the truth about that, which is very interesting.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/602/339/c74.png




Just a side note: Genetic "Male Pattern Baldness" comes in from the "X" (female) chromosome. The name is a bit of a misnomer.

[Mark]

that's rather a large helping of vitriol.

unless, if i'm mistaken, you have evidence of any of this meghan plot.
in which case I will take back my assessment of your piece.

is harry a dormant slumbering idiot who has no self volition?
if so, better he is out than taint the institution.

I find it rather repulsive reading.
I read posts hoping to be enlightened.

Thank you for that. Cosign. Here's some real context and direct comparisons. Excuse the length, I don't know how to minimize pics on PA or if it is possible to have them appear side by side rather than in their original size. It is possible to program that capacity in the software I know, but I don't believe we have it enabled.

Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That May Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal)

Over the years, Meghan has been shamed for the same things for which her sister-in-law, Kate, has been praised.

Ellie Hall (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/author/ellievhall)
BuzzFeed News Reporter

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42336&d=1579894299

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (aka Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) didn't just shockingly (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ehisosifo1/meghan-markle-prince-harry-stepping-down-reactions) "step back (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/harry-meghan-step-down-royal-family-senior-members)" as senior members of the royal family this week — they gave the UK media a big "****-you" for years of what they said was biased and unfair coverage (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/prince-harry-legal-complaint-mail-sunday-meghan-markle).

The couple's new website (https://sussexroyal.com/) on breaking up with years of royal protocol laid out — among a lot of other things — their media strategy, stating that they will no longer participate in the traditional royal press system that grants exclusive access to a select group of UK outlets.

Britain’s royal correspondents, they said, are seen as reliable sources of information. "This misconception propels coverage that is often carried by other outlets around the world, amplifying frequent misreporting," they wrote. Removing themselves from "royal rota" coverage has sparked an outcry among UK media and drew a protest (https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/journalists-should-not-need-the-royal-seal-of-approval-if/) from the National Union of Journalists.

This isn't a new complaint from the royal couple — they just took an unprecedented step to do something about it. Harry and Meghan have said publicly that they believe they have been treated unfairly by the UK press since the moment news broke of their relationship — that they are bullied, that there are racist undertones to coverage of them, and that they have been held to a different standard than Harry's brother and sister-in-law, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (aka Prince William and Kate Middleton).

The UK media outlets that currently make up the royal rota are the Daily Express, the Daily Mail, the Daily Mirror, the Evening Standard, the Telegraph, the Times, and the Sun.

Here is a look at 20 stories from these outlets that appear to show a double standard between press coverage of Meghan and Kate. BuzzFeed News has reached out to all of the outlets featured below for comment.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42337&d=1579894501
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42338&d=1579894509

Kate: "Bumping along nicely! The Duchess was seen placing a protective hand on her tummy as she exited the event." Daily Mail: March 22, 2018 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5526339/Pregnant-Kate-looks-blooming-green.html)

Meghan: "Personally, I find the cradling a bit like those signs in the back of cars: Baby on Board. Virtue signaling, as though the rest of us barren harridans deserve to burn alive in our cars." Daily Mail: Jan. 26, 2019 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636233/Why-Meghan-Markle-hands-bump-Experts-tackle-question.html)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42339&d=1579894520
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42340&d=1579894525

Kate and William: "Prince William was given one of the green fruit – wrapped up in a bow – by a little boy who's mother is suffering during her pregnancy too... 'He said he'd take it to [Kate] and see what happens – and said good luck for [the boy's] mummy.'" Express: Sept. 14, 2017 (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/854265/kate-middleton-pregnant-morning-sickness-avocado)

Meghan: "The pregnant Duchess of Sussex and so-called 'avocado on toast whisperer' is wolfing down a fruit linked to water shortages, illegal deforestation and all round general environmental devastation." Express: Jan. 23, 2019 (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1076626/meghan-markle-news-avocado-toast-vegan-instagram)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42341&d=1579894531
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42342&d=1579894541

Kate: "Royal sources said yesterday that the Queen understood and endorsed William and Kate’s decision not to spend Christmas Day with her. One said: ‘Her Majesty understands that it is a dilemma that many young couples face and acknowledges how close Catherine’s relationship is with her family." Daily Mail: Dec. 16, 2016 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4041542/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-spend-private-Christmas-Middleton-family-joining-Queen-Sandringham.html)

Meghan: "The fact is the Queen expects to have the family around her for the festive season... to the Queen, for whom the tradition of the family gathering is a key date in her calendar, Harry and Meghan’s absence will be a matter of great sadness. It will also be a source of frustration." Daily Mail: Nov. 13, 2019 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7682945/The-impact-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-decision-not-spend-Christmas-royal-family.html)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42343&d=1579894893
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42344&d=1579894903

Kate and William: "Creating their own companies will allow William and Kate to bring out, should they ever chose to, myriad items of officially-endorsed merchandise from tea towels to coffee cups... Kensington Palace officials said they were doing the ‘sensible thing’ in protecting the couple’s rights." Daily Mail: Jan. 17, 2014 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541509/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Wills-secretly-set-companies-protect-brand.html)

Meghan and Harry: "The Sussexes want to stamp their name on dozens of products including T-shirts, hoodies, journals and gloves for their newly-created foundation Sussex Royal... Experts said Harry and Meghan were actively preparing to quit the Royal Family months ago by filing trade mark applications to commercially protect their brand." Daily Mail: Jan. 9, 2020 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7868315/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-trademarked-100-items.html)



This is only half of the article. PA only allows us to upload 9 images with a post. Please go to the original site and article (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal) to see the other direct comparisons about how Meghan has been treated compared to Kate.

[Eric J (Viking)]

that's rather a large helping of vitriol.

unless, if i'm mistaken, you have evidence of any of this meghan plot.
in which case I will take back my assessment of your piece.

is harry a dormant slumbering idiot who has no self volition?
if so, better he is out than taint the institution.

I find it rather repulsive reading.
I read posts hoping to be enlightened.

Thank you for that. Cosign. Here's some real context and direct comparisons. Excuse the length, I don't know how to minimize pics on PA or if it is possible to have them appear side by side rather than in their original size. It is possible to program that capacity in the software I know, but I don't believe we have it enabled.

Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That May Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal)

Over the years, Meghan has been shamed for the same things for which her sister-in-law, Kate, has been praised.

Ellie Hall (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/author/ellievhall)
BuzzFeed News Reporter

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42336&d=1579894299

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (aka Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) didn't just shockingly (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ehisosifo1/meghan-markle-prince-harry-stepping-down-reactions) "step back (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/harry-meghan-step-down-royal-family-senior-members)" as senior members of the royal family this week — they gave the UK media a big "****-you" for years of what they said was biased and unfair coverage (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/prince-harry-legal-complaint-mail-sunday-meghan-markle).

The couple's new website (https://sussexroyal.com/) on breaking up with years of royal protocol laid out — among a lot of other things — their media strategy, stating that they will no longer participate in the traditional royal press system that grants exclusive access to a select group of UK outlets.

Britain’s royal correspondents, they said, are seen as reliable sources of information. "This misconception propels coverage that is often carried by other outlets around the world, amplifying frequent misreporting," they wrote. Removing themselves from "royal rota" coverage has sparked an outcry among UK media and drew a protest (https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/journalists-should-not-need-the-royal-seal-of-approval-if/) from the National Union of Journalists.

This isn't a new complaint from the royal couple — they just took an unprecedented step to do something about it. Harry and Meghan have said publicly that they believe they have been treated unfairly by the UK press since the moment news broke of their relationship — that they are bullied, that there are racist undertones to coverage of them, and that they have been held to a different standard than Harry's brother and sister-in-law, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (aka Prince William and Kate Middleton).

The UK media outlets that currently make up the royal rota are the Daily Express, the Daily Mail, the Daily Mirror, the Evening Standard, the Telegraph, the Times, and the Sun.

Here is a look at 20 stories from these outlets that appear to show a double standard between press coverage of Meghan and Kate. BuzzFeed News has reached out to all of the outlets featured below for comment.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42337&d=1579894501
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42338&d=1579894509

Kate: "Bumping along nicely! The Duchess was seen placing a protective hand on her tummy as she exited the event." Daily Mail: March 22, 2018 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5526339/Pregnant-Kate-looks-blooming-green.html)

Meghan: "Personally, I find the cradling a bit like those signs in the back of cars: Baby on Board. Virtue signaling, as though the rest of us barren harridans deserve to burn alive in our cars." Daily Mail: Jan. 26, 2019 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636233/Why-Meghan-Markle-hands-bump-Experts-tackle-question.html)

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Kate and William: "Prince William was given one of the green fruit – wrapped up in a bow – by a little boy who's mother is suffering during her pregnancy too... 'He said he'd take it to [Kate] and see what happens – and said good luck for [the boy's] mummy.'" Express: Sept. 14, 2017 (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/854265/kate-middleton-pregnant-morning-sickness-avocado)

Meghan: "The pregnant Duchess of Sussex and so-called 'avocado on toast whisperer' is wolfing down a fruit linked to water shortages, illegal deforestation and all round general environmental devastation." Express: Jan. 23, 2019 (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1076626/meghan-markle-news-avocado-toast-vegan-instagram)

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Kate: "Royal sources said yesterday that the Queen understood and endorsed William and Kate’s decision not to spend Christmas Day with her. One said: ‘Her Majesty understands that it is a dilemma that many young couples face and acknowledges how close Catherine’s relationship is with her family." Daily Mail: Dec. 16, 2016 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4041542/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-spend-private-Christmas-Middleton-family-joining-Queen-Sandringham.html)

Meghan: "The fact is the Queen expects to have the family around her for the festive season... to the Queen, for whom the tradition of the family gathering is a key date in her calendar, Harry and Meghan’s absence will be a matter of great sadness. It will also be a source of frustration." Daily Mail: Nov. 13, 2019 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7682945/The-impact-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-decision-not-spend-Christmas-royal-family.html)

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Kate and William: "Creating their own companies will allow William and Kate to bring out, should they ever chose to, myriad items of officially-endorsed merchandise from tea towels to coffee cups... Kensington Palace officials said they were doing the ‘sensible thing’ in protecting the couple’s rights." Daily Mail: Jan. 17, 2014 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541509/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Wills-secretly-set-companies-protect-brand.html)

Meghan and Harry: "The Sussexes want to stamp their name on dozens of products including T-shirts, hoodies, journals and gloves for their newly-created foundation Sussex Royal... Experts said Harry and Meghan were actively preparing to quit the Royal Family months ago by filing trade mark applications to commercially protect their brand." Daily Mail: Jan. 9, 2020 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7868315/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-trademarked-100-items.html)



This is only half of the article. PA only allows us to upload 9 images with a post. Please go to the original site and article (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal) to see the other direct comparisons about how Meghan has been treated compared to Kate.


Thanks Rahkyt...
Typically the press have got a lot to answer for...great perspective amongst other things.

Viking

[Bluegreen]

It cracks me up that the British press calls the BRF "The Good Ship Windsor". Could a more charming phrase be beaten into the heads of the public-at-large to ensure a favorable impression? It sounds so happy and carefree, blue skies and smooth sailing! What a talented, well-placed, and highly-paid PR department they must have!

Does Prince Harry (described in the since-removed video by the royal photographer as "not the sharpest tool in the shed") know more about the BRF than we do? The answer is undoubtedly yes. My goodness, he grew up with them. What does he know? We don't know. It is interesting that when explaining his decision to leave, he used the phrase "knowing what I know". Did he elaborate on this? No. What could that be?

What if he knows that the sh-t is about to hit the fan? What if he knows that this will all begin with his dear uncle, Prince Andrew, and his enthusiasm for breaking the law with teenage girls? Well, we already know about that. But what if he knows that this will BEGIN with Prince Andrew? Remember, we do know about some other stuff, some involving Prince Charles, and it is fairly certain we don't know the whole story there. And I will make it a point to NOT even mention the even weirder stuff we have been told about involving, oh, reptiles and rituals and things of that nature.

Oops.

What if he knows this is coming, and simply wants to jump off a sinking ship? After all, the crew always knows about the leak before the passengers. What if this is what he is talking about when he says "knowing what I know"?

[onawah]

I would say that the murder of Princess Diana is more likely what was underlying Harry's anger all along.
There has been enough evidence proving she was murdered.
No doubt Harry has seen it and has perhaps been waiting for more reason to bail and enough emotional support to do it, so that the pressure to keep him onboard the "BRF".wouldn't be so fierce and difficult to resist.
Support from Meghan and the scandal surrounding Andrew probably provided the final straws, and Lizzie couldn't make him back down any longer.
Perhaps some deals were cut-- Meghan and Harry would keep quiet about what they knew and suspected, and in return, would be allowed to leave the fold.
His brother is all lined up to inherit the crown, so the lineage is preserved and Lizzie could afford to cut him loose.
And, after all, he may not be a Windsor, in any case....

It cracks me up that the British press calls the BRF "The Good Ship Windsor". Could a more charming phrase be beaten into the heads of the public-at-large to ensure a favorable impression? It sounds so happy and carefree, blue skies and smooth sailing! What a talented, well-placed, and highly-paid PR department they must have!

Does Prince Harry (described in the since-removed video by the royal photographer as "not the sharpest tool in the shed") know more about the BRF than we do? The answer is undoubtedly yes. My goodness, he grew up with them. What does he know? We don't know. It is interesting that when explaining his decision to leave, he used the phrase "knowing what I know". Did he elaborate on this? No. What could that be?

What if he knows that the sh-t is about to hit the fan? What if he knows that this will all begin with his dear uncle, Prince Andrew, and his enthusiasm for breaking the law with teenage girls? Well, we already know about that. But what if he knows that this will BEGIN with Prince Andrew? Remember, we do know about some other stuff, some involving Prince Charles, and it is fairly certain we don't know the whole story there. And I will make it a point to NOT even mention the even weirder stuff we have been told about involving, oh, reptiles and rituals and things of that nature.

Oops.

What if he knows this is coming, and simply wants to jump off a sinking ship? After all, the crew always knows about the leak before the passengers. What if this is what he is talking about when he says "knowing what I know"?

[DeDukshyn]

Good point! :idea::thumbsup:It looks like the "expert" was obfuscating the truth about that, which is very interesting.


I have learned to immediately doubt anyone with the credentials of just "expert". ;) I learned that strategy from watching the media outlets "expert" interviews after realizing I was often more of an "expert" at whatever their expertise was supposed to be.

They were more often than not, strategic "actors" more or less. I think "expert" is used for people who have no actual credentials to be speaking on the subject at hand, or when "professionals" won't take your side of an argument.

My 2 cents ;) Always question the "experts".

[happyuk]

I have one final thought on this. Has no one ever explained to Meghan the difference between royalty and celebrity?

I wish her and Harry well but can you honestly see this lasting?

[onawah]

I had never seen Meghan acting before, so I watched some youtube videos which showed outtakes from "Suits", a TV show she has been featured in.
She was apparently really having a lot of fun, as a lot of stars of stage and screen appear to.
So what I ended up wondering was if one of Harry's reasons for quitting the royal role is because he wants to have more fun too, and that kind of celebrity lifestyle looked like something he would like to be more a part of.
Being a royal doesn't look like much fun at all, all that hand-shaking and interminable ceremonies and solemn occasions.
As the wise man always says, "Money can't buy happiness".
Harry doesn't appear to be the type who needs a lot of prestige to feel good about himself, though perhaps that will change in time.
Marriage isn't what it used to be, that's for sure, but they may have as good a chance as other celebrity couples do, at least...
Though I think boredom sets in a lot more quickly once you get used to that level of excitement.

I have one final thought on this. Has no one ever explained to Meghan the difference between royalty and celebrity?

I wish her and Harry well but can you honestly see this lasting?

[DeDukshyn]

I had never seen Meghan acting before, so I watched some youtube videos which showed outtakes from "Suits", a TV show she has been featured in.
She was apparently really having a lot of fun, as a lot of stars of stage and screen appear to.
So what I ended up wondering was if one of Harry's reasons for quitting the royal role is because he wants to have more fun too, and that kind of celebrity lifestyle looked like something he would like to be more a part of.
Being a royal doesn't look like much fun at all, all that hand-shaking and interminable ceremonies and solemn occasions.
As the wise man always says, "Money can't buy happiness".
Harry doesn't appear to be the type who needs a lot of prestige to feel good about himself, though perhaps that will change in time.
Marriage isn't what it used to be, that's for sure, but they may have as good a chance as other celebrity couples do, at least...
Though I think boredom sets in a lot more quickly once you get used to that level of excitement.

I have one final thought on this. Has no one ever explained to Meghan the difference between royalty and celebrity?

I wish her and Harry well but can you honestly see this lasting?

Exactly my sentiments. It seems the best fit to me.

[Mark]

Typically the press have got a lot to answer for...great perspective amongst other things.

I think so. Perspective is one thing and everyone is entitled to theirs, but this seems to be quite the deliberate deployment of rancor and ill will, as has been present in this thread as well, which is interesting to me, considering this format and the fact that they are all royals, even Meghan now. I wonder if she's seen the Prince Andrew or the Queen shape-shift and that is why she needed an ocean and half a continent between to raise their hybrid (in a few more ways than one) child?

At any rate, their life away from London and on the American continent is going to be amazing and the entire world will continue to watch them over anything that goes on with big brother William and his bride. And that may be a part of the rancor as well.

[greybeard]

John Bercow says Meghan Markle was victim of 'explicit and obnoxious racism'
Yahoo News UK James Morris,Yahoo News UK
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/john-bercow-meghan-markle-racism-093932499.html


Former Commons speaker John Bercow has said Meghan Markle was the victim of “explicit and obnoxious racism”.

Mr Bercow was speaking for the first time about the Duchess and Duke of Sussex’s decision to step back from senior royal duties and move to Canada.

He told the Sunday Times: “I want to say that I believe unequivocally that Meghan has been the victim of explicit and obnoxious racism.

“I am crystal clear about that. She has been subjected to racism, sexism and misogyny.
January 20th 2020 - Buckingham Palace has announced that Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan will no longer use
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

“Harry and Meghan have a right to opt for change, accepting some of the consequences and costs. They are entitled to put their marriage and health first.”

Mr Bercow also said Meghan has been attacked because she is a “feminist” who has previously spoken out against Donald Trump.

The Sussexs’ dramatic announcement last month that they were stepping back from royal duties sparked debate about whether Meghan, who is mixed race, has been subjected to racism.

Prince Harry himself has previously criticised “racial undertones” of media coverage about Meghan, something Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said he agreed with last month.

Good Morning Britain presenter Piers Morgan, on the other hand, has claimed “this ‘it’s all racism’ defence of Meghan is so wrong and such a disgraceful smear on the British people who welcomed our first mixed-race royal with huge enthusiasm”. Mr Morgan has launched a series of tirades against Meghan, who he claimed suddenly cut off their friendship in 2015.

[ExomatrixTV]

Prince Harry & Meghan Oprah Interview: Body Language Finally Reveals Royal SECRETS, LIES, & TRUTHS:

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[Spiral]

I can't believe the ludicrous stuff I'm hearing on the radio about the Hewitt lad.

So I googled it & got to this list of headlines https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/prince_harry/index.html

This next bit will only be understood by a portion of UK members & lurkers, try reading those out in Geordie accent with the odd expletive added in for effect & see what it reminds you of.
















It's Viz isn't it.

That's just how stupid all this has become.

[Icare]

I believe the Meghan and Harry story is just a side show keeping people occupied so they won't look elsewhere.

[grapevine]

Just the first three minutes is pertinent to this thread (unfortunately I couldn't find a shorter video)\

It's surprising that Harry hasn't raised the issue of his mother's death before. Perhaps he has; in his position I think we all would, but in my view he's now on sticky ground and making himself vulnerable to being seen as a liability.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey2IH1eouEY&list=TLPQMDYwMTIwMjNfJ4cZFOdSIg&index=1&ab_channel=GBNews