The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

[DeDukshyn]

Breaking news: China will admit coronavirus coming from its P4 lab

https://gnews.org/89749/

Give me a break. IMO an unknown Western psyop department is working overtime to spread these rumors ...


Note that a "western psyop" or some secret society would never do anything themselves ... they would convince people to do certain things through strong incentivization (not necessarily money), and then blame those involved.

There is a viral lab in China very close to the outbreak site, and they may be forced to admit that it came from their lab, but that doesn't mean they are they ones pulling the strings - it might be just something they have to admit, are forced to admit, or there just isn't any better explanation. Not that they actually did it, or are behind the actions.

I'm just saying we can't draw any conclusions on anything yet, no matter how things "appear".

[DeDukshyn]

From Kerry (Project Camelot (http://projectcamelotportal.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-bioweapon-predicted-by-2-camelot-whistleblowers/)) received by her on January 29th sent by somebody currently in Shanghai.

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The government is refusing to diagnose the virus, so that the official count of infected and the death toll remains low. I am hearing that a lot of deaths are marked as pneumonia since the victim was never diagnosed positively for Coronavirus.

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I just want to point out that this is pretty much standard medical practice. Testing for viruses is expensive and requires specific resources that are limited. You just can't test everyone in an outbreak - not possible.

It's exactly the same for the flu in western countries. Rarely is it ever tested for. In Canada they government claims 8000+ people die each year from the flu. In reality there's usually less than 200 confirmed (tested) cases, and sometimes less than 100. They don't test for it, the assume the numbers, and people who get pneumonia and die, lend to that 8000 number, but most are never tested for influenza.

[Le Chat]

This photo shows the britons, recently landed at Brize Norton, having flown over from Wutan being transported somewhere for quarantine.

What caught my eye was that the driver of the coach is clearly unprotected, whilst standing to his left is someone in full protective gear, presumably a medical orderly.

What goes on with the driver?!?

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[Gracy]

This photo shows the britons, recently landed at Brize Norton, having flown over from Wutan being transported somewhere for quarantine.

What caught my eye was that the driver of the coach is clearly unprotected, whilst standing to his left is someone in full protective gear, presumably a medical orderly.

What goes on with the driver?!?

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I noticed something similar a couple of days ago on the evening mainstream news. Footage of them being met by four or five guys in full white hazmat suits as they disembarked their flight, but not wearing their headgear.

I was thinking what good is THAT going to do?

[Sarah Rainsong]

Had an interesting conversation with my kids this morning, and I thought I'd share.


Boy (9yrs): Someone said that if the virus comes here, they'll close the schools!

Me: Yes, they probably would, they've already closed several schools here in Georgia for a few days because of the flu.

You could see the wheels turning in his head as he gauged whether he could get out school or not...where of course, I had to remind him that we can always go back to homeschooling. :bigsmile:

At which point, older brother (15--he is knows everything! ;) ) has to chime in: They don't know what viruses are going to do because they can't be predicted!

Me: It's more like the weather. You don't know exactly what it's going to do. You can see a storm coming, but you don't know if it's going to get worse or go around you or fizzle out altogether. But the closer it gets, the more you know what's going to happen. That's why I'm watching it so closely.

I thought that was a pretty good analogy, and I think it's a good way to suggest for others to look at it.

For instance, here in the south, we are NOT prepared for icy weather. So if someone says there's a winter storm coming, yeah, people can go a bit crazy. We laugh and make jokes about ourselves every year about it. But history shows that if you don't take appropriate precautions, you will be left out in the cold. Literally.

It took kids being stranded overnight in buses in freezing temps (https://abcnews.go.com/US/freak-southern-snow-storm-strands-8000-students/story?id=22279318) for school systems to start taking winter storm predictions seriously. If/when they take the same approach to a disease (whether it's this virus or something else), it's going to be a lot more devastating.

And to interject just a bit of humor here, try not to be like one of these people:
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[Bill Ryan]

From Kerry (Project Camelot (http://projectcamelotportal.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-bioweapon-predicted-by-2-camelot-whistleblowers/)) received by her on January 29th sent by somebody currently in Shanghai.

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"Camelot was sent this today Jan 29, 2020: (it may be at least a day old info)"

URGENT MESSAGE:

From a friend in China·

Anyone that sees this:

I’m currently living in Shanghai.

The Coronavirus is no joke.

All the videos and posts online (about dead bodies lying in hospital hallways and collapsing people and Wuhan being boxed in) aside as I can’t verify them and I don’t wish to fear monger on unsubstantiated evidence; Instead I will talk about what I know and have seen myself or from my family.

Just a few minutes ago Shanghai announced the closure of all highways and roads leading in and out of the city.

Yesterday Beijing announced the closure of the city as well. These are the two biggest cities in China, and they’ve gone into isolation. This has never happened in history ever.

The list of quarantined cities are growing everyday, and currently over 60 million people have been quarantined in Central China. That’s almost 3 times the population of Australia.

On all the projections and data that I’ve seen. Shanghai is the next major city after Wuhan to have the most infected. With Beijing being second.

Shanghai hospitals are full to the brim with patients who have flu and cold symptoms – Which are also coronavirus symptoms. Multiple hospitals have actually closed and shut down due to the amount of patients.

My relative came down with a fever a few days ago, and it took over 8 hours to see a doctor for a few minutes. The doctors refused to test them for the virus and only advised them to self isolate at home.

The government is refusing to diagnose the virus, so that the official count of infected and the death toll remains low. I am hearing that a lot of deaths are marked as pneumonia since the victim was never diagnosed positively for Coronavirus.

Shanghai has had it’s first death from the virus today. As far as I know, the first city to have a death outside of the Hubei province (Edit: Someone has corrected me that the first death was in Hebei)

The streets in Shanghai are like a ghost town. Partly also because of CNY where most of the people leave the city.

In a few days, CNY will be ending and hundreds of millions of Chinese (mainly in China but also many that are abroad) will be travelling back to the cities where they work and live. This will be prime time for the virus to spread harder and stronger.

There is no vaccine, and the only effective treatments so far are IV drops, hormonal injections, and recently discovered that HIV drugs are effective as well.

The virus can even spread from someone who is not displaying symptoms. So stay away from anyone who has recently been to China (Even me if I get to leave the country). The virus can enter through the eyes, nose and mouth. Don’t touch your face with unwashed hands. Bring antibacterial handwipes and handwash with you everywhere. Wear hospital grade surgical masks or N95 material masks with a respirator when going out to protect the mouth and nose. I also wear gloves to keep my hands clean in case I touch any infected surfaces.

Currently, all supplies are pretty much sold out all through China. Masks are impossible to get no matter which province you’re in. Hand sanitizer and the likes are rapidly dwindling. Goggles are also out as I haven’t been able to buy any. So I recommend people in Australia to start stocking up.

In Shanghai the infected count is easily way higher than official reports (40 officially infected) simply judging by the number of people in the hospitals who are afraid they have the virus. All it takes is for a few of them to actually have the virus, to then cough on others or on a surface, and then suddenly a clean person who has a fever from the flu gets sick.

I have multiple friends and acquaintances who asked for leave from their jobs in Shanghai, been denied the leave, and just straight out quit their job. Schools are also shut until Feb 17th, and if the situation hasn’t improved I have no doubt the closure would be extended.

Do not trust any official reports from China on what the situation is like over here. Censorship is rampant. At first China claimed it was all under control. But just yesterday Xi Jinping himself admitted the virus was accelerating and China was in grave danger. It’s not good when even a communist government admits it’s ****ed.

Vaccines themselves take months to develop, and then months and years to test and manufacture and distribute. We cannot count on a vaccine if this breaks out globally. Hopefully better treatments will be discovered meanwhile though. I am unsure how antibiotics affect the virus.

Confirmed cases in Australia were spread from travelers who entered the country on the 19th of January. That was a week ago. During that week, there would have been hundreds more flights from China which statistically speaking would definitely contain virus carriers. Maybe Australia’s healthcare is good and the virus won’t run rampant there like it did in China. But better to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.

The virus has been closely compared to SARS in 2003. Since 2003 people travel a lot more, there are a lot more flights, and the world is just so unprepared for an epidemic right now. Moreover, SARS had an R0 of 2.5 (Every infected person infects 2.5 people) and Coronavirus is estimated to have an R0 of 3.8. The symptoms of SARS was also a lot more obvious. And most of the SARS infections came from a few superspreaders. Coronavirus spreads strongly amongst anyone. The incubation period is longer, with reports saying 3 days to 14 days. During incubation it’s not infectious, but it gives time for the carriers to enter a clean corona-free society. Not every infected person will have a fever either.

It’s worrying because there is nothing that China can do to contain the spread of the virus. The official death toll is growing by a dozen a day and these are all elderly people. Which to me doesn’t mean only those with weak constitutions fall victim to the virus. These are still early days and I feel like the young and healthy just take longer to succumb to it.

By worrying I mean ****ing scary. The situation here is in free fall and there’s nothing on the horizon that could possibly contain it.

Friends and family stay safe. If anyone has any questions about the situation in China just let me know.

An important correlation, for those reading these reports who feel avalanched with information.

In my post #235 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333776&viewfull=1#post1333776), I reported from The Epoch Times:


https://theepochtimes.com/faced-with-existential-threat-to-their-rule-chinese-leaders-decide-to-save-11-cities-from-coronavirus-epidemic-insider_3220421.html


Faced With Existential Threat to Their Rule, Chinese Leaders Decide to Save 11 Cities From Coronavirus Epidemic: Insider

Top Chinese leaders at a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Politburo meeting last week expressed concern that the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak may put an end to their rule. They have decided to focus on preserving 11 major cities from being devastated by the virus.

Stephen Shiu Yeuk-yuen, a senior political commentator and media professional in Hong Kong, told the Hong Kong edition of The Epoch Times on Jan. 28 that he obtained the information from an insider in the CCP’s top leadership. According to Shiu, the Politburo emergency meeting was held on Jan. 25, on the day of the Chinese New Year.

The 11 cities on the CCP’s priority list of being saved are Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hong Kong, Hangzhou, Xi’an, Shenyang, Harbin, and Urumqi. The CCP is prepared to protect these 11 cities at all cost, even if it means sacrificing other cities, Shiu said.

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Of course if this is what's really happening now, there's no way this can avoid the mainstream. So we should just wait for confirmation. But if this actually is for real, it signals the true severity of the problem — which the Chinese know better than anyone, whatever they're telling the outside world.

[Bill Ryan]

A new video from Chris Martenson uploaded two hours ago, which he states is the most important of his updates so far.

He cites a study out of China published two days ago which indicates the R0 (transmission rate) of the coronavirus is over 4. (4.08, to be precise.)

That's crazy-high, and in simple terms means that each infected person will on average infect 4 other people.

Like a forest fire in which each burning tree sets fire to 4 others, and rapidly spreading uncontained wildfire is the result. (An outbreak like this can only be contained and reduced by bringing the R0 to below 1.)

He cautions that the study isn't peer-reviewed, and must be regarded as provisional and tentative. However, it's a professional study from a team of highly qualified and experienced people.

But he shows a [theoretical] table — just simple math — which predicts on that basis that IF


the R0 = 4, and
it stays that way,

...then every human on the planet would be infected many times over after just 20 days. That's what exponential growth does. (Geeky note: it's actually geometric, i.e. a parabolic near-vertical curve. But those ridiculous numbers mean there might be no mathematicians left alive to check. :) )

Seriously, Martenson says [my paraphrase] that of course, that's impossible. But in order to MAKE it impossible, if the R0 really is 4 (or even above 3!), everywhere might have to go into lockdown, wherever you are. In other words: be very prepared.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmrm0mk5928

[silvanelf]

From Kerry (Project Camelot (http://projectcamelotportal.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-bioweapon-predicted-by-2-camelot-whistleblowers/)) received by her on January 29th sent by somebody currently in Shanghai.

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The government is refusing to diagnose the virus, so that the official count of infected and the death toll remains low. I am hearing that a lot of deaths are marked as pneumonia since the victim was never diagnosed positively for Coronavirus.

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I just want to point out that this is pretty much standard medical practice. Testing for viruses is expensive and requires specific resources that are limited. You just can't test everyone in an outbreak - not possible.


I agree, that's the point.

You have to consider several aspects:

the timeline: Chinese scientists analyzed and published the virus's genome on Jan. 10 -- that was a requirement to create a diagnostic test
the current diagnostic test (PCR) is time-consuming and expensive (see quote below)
there is a lot of chaos on the administrative level in China, for sure



Once news of the outbreak in China reached his lab, his team quickly created several versions of a coronavirus test, hoping that some would be a match for the new virus with pneumonia-like symptoms.

„When there was the first release of the sequence from China“ – in mid-January – „we immediately compared our candidate tests with this sequence, and we saw that almost all our candidate tests were right,“ he said.

Now his tests (and others like them) can be dispatched to determine whether someone has the new coronavirus, in a kind of genetic-sequence matching game.

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In the US, tests are being done only at the CDC in Atlanta, with a „reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction“ test, or RT-PCR, which can convert RNA into DNA and amplify genetic sequences, making them easier to study and compare.

In China, like in the US, virus samples were initially sent only to a Beijing lab for testing, but tests are now being run in Hubei province, where the Wuhan virus originated, Reuters reported on Monday. Results from each test come back in one to two days.

https://www.businessinsider.de/international/how-to-know-if-you-have-the-coronavirus-pcr-test-2020-1/?r=US&IR=T

[pyrangello]

Thanks Bill for that YOu tube video just above, its 19 minutes long but really lays out the groundwork in a calm and easy understanding way why to quarantine as a tool against the spread. And that the contagion rate is pretty high of this virus and that getting sick does not mean your going to die. He explains that every area that gets hit geographically at this point are not going to be able to function as usual for a while and that widespread quarantines are probably the only good tool the government has to help fight against this in its present form. There's alot of what ifs, but at this snapshot in time today, he spells it out pretty well. I recommend watching this .

[Sue (Ayt)]

Coronavirus: Bay Area's 1st case confirmed in Santa Clara County, CDC says
The Santa Clara County case marks the seventh confirmed case in the United States. There are two other cases in California, one in Arizona, one in Washington state, and two in Illinois.
https://abc7news.com/health/bay-areas-1st-case-of-coronavirus-confirmed-in-santa-clara-co/5895060/

[Sue (Ayt)]

First Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the United States


January 31, 2020
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

List of authors.
Michelle L. Holshue, M.P.H.,
Chas DeBolt, M.P.H.,
Scott Lindquist, M.D.,
Kathy H. Lofy, M.D.,
John Wiesman, Dr.P.H.,
Hollianne Bruce, M.P.H.,
Christopher Spitters, M.D.,
Keith Ericson, P.A.-C.,
Sara Wilkerson, M.N.,
Ahmet Tural, M.D.,
George Diaz, M.D.,
Amanda Cohn, M.D.,
et al.,
for the Washington State 2019-nCoV Case Investigation Team*
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Summary

An outbreak of novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) that began in Wuhan, China, has spread rapidly, with cases now confirmed in multiple countries. We report the first case of 2019-nCoV infection confirmed in the United States and describe the identification, diagnosis, clinical course, and management of the case, including the patient’s initial mild symptoms at presentation with progression to pneumonia on day 9 of illness. This case highlights the importance of close coordination between clinicians and public health authorities at the local, state, and federal levels, as well as the need for rapid dissemination of clinical information related to the care of patients with this emerging infection.On December 31, 2019, China reported a cluster of cases of pneumonia in people associated with the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, Hubei Province.1 On January 7, 2020, Chinese health authorities confirmed that this cluster was associated with a novel coronavirus, 2019-nCoV.2Although cases were originally reported to be associated with exposure to the seafood market in Wuhan, current epidemiologic data indicate that person-to-person transmission of 2019-nCoV is occurring.3-6 As of January 30, 2020, a total of 9976 cases had been reported in at least 21 countries,7 including the first confirmed case of 2019-nCoV infection in the United States, reported on January 20, 2020. Investigations are under way worldwide to better understand transmission dynamics and the spectrum of clinical illness. This report describes the epidemiologic and clinical features of the first case of 2019-nCoV infection confirmed in the United States.Case Report

On January 19, 2020, a 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. On checking into the clinic, the patient put on a mask in the waiting room. After waiting approximately 20 minutes, he was taken into an examination room and underwent evaluation by a provider. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China. The patient stated that he had seen a health alert from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) about the novel coronavirus outbreak in China and, because of his symptoms and recent travel, decided to see a health care provider.

Figure 1.Posteroanterior and Lateral Chest Radiographs, January 19, 2020 (Illness Day 4).

Apart from a history of hypertriglyceridemia, the patient was an otherwise healthy nonsmoker. The physical examination revealed a body temperature of 37.2°C, blood pressure of 134/87 mm Hg, pulse of 110 beats per minute, respiratory rate of 16 breaths per minute, and oxygen saturation of 96% while the patient was breathing ambient air. Lung auscultation revealed rhonchi, and chest radiography was performed, which was reported as showing no abnormalities (Figure 1). A rapid nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) for influenza A and B was negative. A nasopharyngeal swab specimen was obtained and sent for detection of viral respiratory pathogens by NAAT; this was reported back within 48 hours as negative for all pathogens tested, including influenza A and B, parainfluenza, respiratory syncytial virus, rhinovirus, adenovirus, and four common coronavirus strains known to cause illness in humans (HKU1, NL63, 229E, and OC43).

Given the patient’s travel history, the local and state health departments were immediately notified. Together with the urgent care clinician, the Washington Department of Health notified the CDC Emergency Operations Center. Although the patient reported that he had not spent time at the Huanan seafood market and reported no known contact with ill persons during his travel to China, CDC staff concurred with the need to test the patient for 2019-nCoV on the basis of current CDC “persons under investigation” case definitions.8 Specimens were collected in accordance with CDC guidance and included serum and nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swab specimens. After specimen collection, the patient was discharged to home isolation with active monitoring by the local health department.

On January 20, 2020, the CDC confirmed that the patient’s nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs tested positive for 2019-nCoV by real-time reverse-transcriptase–polymerase-chain-reaction (rRT-PCR) assay. In coordination with CDC subject-matter experts, state and local health officials, emergency medical services, and hospital leadership and staff, the patient was admitted to an airborne-isolation unit at Providence Regional Medical Center for clinical observation, with health care workers following CDC recommendations for contact, droplet, and airborne precautions with eye protection.9

On admission, the patient reported persistent dry cough and a 2-day history of nausea and vomiting; he reported that he had no shortness of breath or chest pain. Vital signs were within normal ranges. On physical examination, the patient was found to have dry mucous membranes. The remainder of the examination was generally unremarkable. After admission, the patient received supportive care, including 2 liters of normal saline and ondansetron for nausea.

Figure 2.Symptoms and Maximum Body Temperatures According to Day of Illness and Day of Hospitalization, January 16 to January 30, 2020.

On days 2 through 5 of hospitalization (days 6 through 9 of illness), the patient’s vital signs remained largely stable, apart from the development of intermittent fevers accompanied by periods of tachycardia (Figure 2). The patient continued to report a nonproductive cough and appeared fatigued. On the afternoon of hospital day 2, the patient passed a loose bowel movement and reported abdominal discomfort. A second episode of loose stool was reported overnight; a sample of this stool was collected for rRT-PCR testing, along with additional respiratory specimens (nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal) and serum. The stool and both respiratory specimens later tested positive by rRT-PCR for 2019-nCoV, whereas the serum remained negative.

Treatment during this time was largely supportive. For symptom management, the patient received, as needed, antipyretic therapy consisting of 650 mg of acetaminophen every 4 hours and 600 mg of ibuprofen every 6 hours. He also received 600 mg of guaifenesin for his continued cough and approximately 6 liters of normal saline over the first 6 days of hospitalization.

Table 1.Clinical Laboratory Results.

The nature of the patient isolation unit permitted only point-of-care laboratory testing initially; complete blood counts and serum chemical studies were available starting on hospital day 3. Laboratory results on hospital days 3 and 5 (illness days 7 and 9) reflected leukopenia, mild thrombocytopenia, and elevated levels of creatine kinase (Table 1). In addition, there were alterations in hepatic function measures: levels of alkaline phosphatase (68 U per liter), alanine aminotransferase (105 U per liter), aspartate aminotransferase (77 U per liter), and lactate dehydrogenase (465 U per liter) were all elevated on day 5 of hospitalization. Given the patient’s recurrent fevers, blood cultures were obtained on day 4; these have shown no growth to date.

Figure 3.Posteroanterior and Lateral Chest Radiographs, January 22, 2020 (Illness Day 7, Hospital Day 3).Figure 4.Posteroanterior Chest Radiograph, January 24, 2020 (Illness Day 9, Hospital Day 5).

A chest radiograph taken on hospital day 3 (illness day 7) was reported as showing no evidence of infiltrates or abnormalities (Figure 3). However, a second chest radiograph from the night of hospital day 5 (illness day 9) showed evidence of pneumonia in the lower lobe of the left lung (Figure 4). These radiographic findings coincided with a change in respiratory status starting on the evening of hospital day 5, when the patient’s oxygen saturation values as measured by pulse oximetry dropped to as low as 90% while he was breathing ambient air. On day 6, the patient was started on supplemental oxygen, delivered by nasal cannula at 2 liters per minute. Given the changing clinical presentation and concern about hospital-acquired pneumonia, treatment with vancomycin (a 1750-mg loading dose followed by 1 g administered intravenously every 8 hours) and cefepime (administered intravenously every 8 hours) was initiated.

Figure 5.Anteroposterior and Lateral Chest Radiographs, January 26, 2020 (Illness Day 10, Hospital Day 6).

On hospital day 6 (illness day 10), a fourth chest radiograph showed basilar streaky opacities in both lungs, a finding consistent with atypical pneumonia (Figure 5), and rales were noted in both lungs on auscultation. Given the radiographic findings, the decision to administer oxygen supplementation, the patient’s ongoing fevers, the persistent positive 2019-nCoV RNA at multiple sites, and published reports of the development of severe pneumonia3,4 at a period consistent with the development of radiographic pneumonia in this patient, clinicians pursued compassionate use of an investigational antiviral therapy. Treatment with intravenous remdesivir (a novel nucleotide analogue prodrug in development10,11) was initiated on the evening of day 7, and no adverse events were observed in association with the infusion. Vancomycin was discontinued on the evening of day 7, and cefepime was discontinued on the following day, after serial negative procalcitonin levels and negative nasal PCR testing for methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.

On hospital day 8 (illness day 12), the patient’s clinical condition improved. Supplemental oxygen was discontinued, and his oxygen saturation values improved to 94 to 96% while he was breathing ambient air. The previous bilateral lower-lobe rales were no longer present. His appetite improved, and he was asymptomatic aside from intermittent dry cough and rhinorrhea. As of January 30, 2020, the patient remains hospitalized. He is afebrile, and all symptoms have resolved with the exception of his cough, which is decreasing in severity.Methods

SPECIMEN COLLECTION

Clinical specimens for 2019-nCoV diagnostic testing were obtained in accordance with CDC guidelines.12 Nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swab specimens were collected with synthetic fiber swabs; each swab was inserted into a separate sterile tube containing 2 to 3 ml of viral transport medium. Serum was collected in a serum separator tube and then centrifuged in accordance with CDC guidelines. The urine and stool specimens were each collected in sterile specimen containers. Specimens were stored between 2°C and 8°C until ready for shipment to the CDC. Specimens for repeat 2019-nCoV testing were collected on illness days 7, 11, and 12 and included nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs, serum, and urine and stool samples. DIAGNOSTIC TESTING FOR 2019-NCOV

Clinical specimens were tested with an rRT-PCR assay that was developed from the publicly released virus sequence. Similar to previous diagnostic assays for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV), it has three nucleocapsid gene targets and a positive control target. A description of this assay13 and sequence information for the rRT-PCR panel primers and probes14 are available on the CDC Laboratory Information website for 2019-nCoV.15GENETIC SEQUENCING

On January 7, 2020, Chinese researchers shared the full genetic sequence of 2019-nCoV through the National Institutes of Health GenBank database16 and the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID)17 database; a report about the isolation of 2019-nCoV was later published.18 Nucleic acid was extracted from rRT-PCR–positive specimens (oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal) and used for whole-genome sequencing on both Sanger and next-generation sequencing platforms (Illumina and MinIon). Sequence assembly was completed with the use of Sequencher software, version 5.4.6 (Sanger); minimap software, version 2.17 (MinIon); and freebayes software, version 1.3.1 (MiSeq). Complete genomes were compared with the available 2019-nCoV reference sequence (GenBank accession number NC_045512.2).Results

SPECIMEN TESTING FOR 2019-NCOV

Table 2.Results of Real-Time Reverse-Transcriptase–Polymerase-Chain-Reaction Testing for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

The initial respiratory specimens (nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs) obtained from this patient on day 4 of his illness were positive for 2019-nCoV (Table 2). The low cycle threshold (Ct) values (18 to 20 in nasopharyngeal specimens and 21 to 22 in oropharyngeal specimens) on illness day 4 suggest high levels of virus in these specimens, despite the patient’s initial mild symptom presentation. Both upper respiratory specimens obtained on illness day 7 remained positive for 2019-nCoV, including persistent high levels in a nasopharyngeal swab specimen (Ct values, 23 to 24). Stool obtained on illness day 7 was also positive for 2019-nCoV (Ct values, 36 to 38). Serum specimens for both collection dates were negative for 2019-nCoV. Nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal specimens obtained on illness days 11 and 12 showed a trend toward decreasing levels of virus. The oropharyngeal specimen tested negative for 2019-nCoV on illness day 12. The rRT-PCR results for serum obtained on these dates are still pending. GENETIC SEQUENCING

The full genome sequences from oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal specimens were identical to one another and were nearly identical to other available 2019-nCoV sequences. There were only 3 nucleotides and 1 amino acid that differed at open reading frame 8 between this patient’s virus and the 2019-nCoV reference sequence (NC_045512.2). The sequence is available through GenBank (accession number MN985325).16DISCUSSION

Our report of the first confirmed case of 2019-nCoV in the United States illustrates several aspects of this emerging outbreak that are not yet fully understood, including transmission dynamics and the full spectrum of clinical illness. Our case patient had traveled to Wuhan, China, but reported that he had not visited the wholesale seafood market or health care facilities or had any sick contacts during his stay in Wuhan. Although the source of his 2019-nCoV infection is unknown, evidence of person-to-person transmission has been published. Through January 30, 2020, no secondary cases of 2019-nCoV related to this case have been identified, but monitoring of close contacts continues.19

Detection of 2019-nCoV RNA in specimens from the upper respiratory tract with low Ct values on day 4 and day 7 of illness is suggestive of high viral loads and potential for transmissibility. It is notable that we also detected 2019-nCoV RNA in a stool specimen collected on day 7 of the patient’s illness. Although serum specimens from our case patient were repeatedly negative for 2019-nCoV, viral RNA has been detected in blood in severely ill patients in China.4 However, extrapulmonary detection of viral RNA does not necessarily mean that infectious virus is present, and the clinical significance of the detection of viral RNA outside the respiratory tract is unknown at this time.

Currently, our understanding of the clinical spectrum of 2019-nCoV infection is very limited. Complications such as severe pneumonia, respiratory failure, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), and cardiac injury, including fatal outcomes, have been reported in China.4,18,20 However, it is important to note that these cases were identified on the basis of their pneumonia diagnosis and thus may bias reporting toward more severe outcomes.

Our case patient initially presented with mild cough and low-grade intermittent fevers, without evidence of pneumonia on chest radiography on day 4 of his illness, before having progression to pneumonia by illness day 9. These nonspecific signs and symptoms of mild illness early in the clinical course of 2019-nCoV infection may be indistinguishable clinically from many other common infectious diseases, particularly during the winter respiratory virus season. In addition, the timing of our case patient’s progression to pneumonia on day 9 of illness is consistent with later onset of dyspnea (at a median of 8 days from onset) reported in a recent publication.4 Although a decision to administer remdesivir for compassionate use was based on the case patient’s worsening clinical status, randomized controlled trials are needed to determine the safety and efficacy of remdesivir and any other investigational agents for treatment of patients with 2019-nCoV infection.

We report the clinical features of the first reported patient with 2019-nCoV infection in the United States. Key aspects of this case included the decision made by the patient to seek medical attention after reading public health warnings about the outbreak; recognition of the patient’s recent travel history to Wuhan by local providers, with subsequent coordination among local, state, and federal public health officials; and identification of possible 2019-nCoV infection, which allowed for prompt isolation of the patient and subsequent laboratory confirmation of 2019-nCoV, as well as for admission of the patient for further evaluation and management. This case report highlights the importance of clinicians eliciting a recent history of travel or exposure to sick contacts in any patient presenting for medical care with acute illness symptoms, in order to ensure appropriate identification and prompt isolation of patients who may be at risk for 2019-nCoV infection and to help reduce further transmission. Finally, this report highlights the need to determine the full spectrum and natural history of clinical disease, pathogenesis, and duration of viral shedding associated with 2019-nCoV infection to inform clinical management and public health decision making.The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

This article was published on January 31, 2020, at NEJM.org.

We thank the patient; the nurses and clinical staff who are providing care for the patient; staff at the local and state health departments; staff at the Washington State Department of Health Public Health Laboratories and at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Division of Viral Disease Laboratory; CDC staff at the Emergency Operations Center; and members of the 2019-nCoV response teams at the local, state, and national levels.Author Affiliations

From the Epidemic Intelligence Service (M.L.H.), the National Center for Immunizations and Respiratory Diseases (A.C., L.F., A.P.), the Division of Viral Diseases (S.I.G., L.K., S.T., X.L., S. Lindstrom, M.A.P., W.C.W., H.M.B.), the Influenza Division (T.M.U.), and the Division of Preparedness and Emerging Infections (S.K.P.), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta; and the Washington State Department of Health, Shoreline (M.L.H., C.D., S. Lindquist, K.H.L., J.W.), Snohomish Health District (H.B., C.S.), Providence Medical Group (K.E.), and Providence Regional Medical Center (S.W., A.T., G.D.), Everett, and Department of Medicine, University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle (C.S.) — all in Washington.

Address reprint requests to Ms. Holshue at the Washington State Department of Health Public Health Laboratories, 1610 NE 150th St., Shoreline, WA 98155, or at michelle.holshue@doh.wa.gov.

A full list of the members of the Washington State 2019-nCoV Case Investigation Team is provided in the Supplementary Appendix, available at NEJM.org.

...
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...ry=main_nav_lg

[AriG]

So when this unfolding situation started looking ominous, I could not help but recall the words of Bill's 'Anglo Saxon Mission' and how it does seem that albeit quite delayed, the dire warnings from 2010 seem to have been teleported along an extended timeline into 2020. "China will catch a cold". A corona virus is responsible for the common cold, but in the hands of the likes of Netanyahu and Bolton? A definitive weapon of mass destruction indeed.

On the ground here - obtaining medical face masks consumed most of my day. I had some real estate business to attend in the Queen City area and as I headed South, I made numerous stops to obtain some medical masks that would assist my husband and I in our travel schedules. Stop one - Ft. Mitchell, KY CVS - all of the masks are gone. Upon inquiry, the staff said they were told to "pull them off the shelf". Stop#2, Costco - Florence, KY. All "sold out". Stop #3 - Walton Pharmacy, Walton KY - two boxes of five glorified dust masks left available, medical grade masks sent to Homeland Security. Stop #5, Williamstown, KY, rinky dink pharmacy - one box of medial grade masks on the shelf, sold individually at 1.25 each. Bought eight. Stop #6 - Dollar Store, Dry Ridge KY - sanding masks available, bought ten paks. Stop #7, Walmart, Dry Ridge Ky - staff told to pull all stock to send to Homeland Security.

Got back to the farm - watched the live stream Youtube coverage of the White House declaring Coronavirus a US Health Emergency. This has never happened. We have never had a medical emergency.

Planning on pulling my sister and mother in from the city and sequestering all necessary resources for at least a two month period.

This is Kentucky, folks. Couldn't imagine what's going on on the coast.

Be well.

edit to add:

my shopping adventure was one of concern as I attempted to order necessary supplies from Amazon yesterday. At least a two month delay on masks. Thank goodness I have all other medical supplies including sutures and lidocaine, penicillin jabs and necessaries.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

In this video Joseph Farrell discusses the possible connection of the recent arrest of a Harvard professor for lying about his connections to a scientific research outfit in China to the outbreak of the Wuhan Coronavirus. Farrell also discusses the Canadian connection.

I personally thought it was rather strange that the MSM barely reported the story.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/01/28/US-charges-Harvard-professor-with-lying-about-ties-to-Chinese-program/8751580246648/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDvH9cadb0&feature=emb_logo

[AriG]

In this video Joseph Farrell discusses the possible connection of the recent arrest of a Harvard professor for lying about his connections to a scientific research outfit in China to the outbreak of the Wuhan Coronavirus. Farrell also discusses the Canadian connection.

I personally thought it was rather strange that the MSM barely reported the story.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/01/28/US-charges-Harvard-professor-with-lying-about-ties-to-Chinese-program/8751580246648/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDvH9cadb0&feature=emb_logo

And we wonder how ancient myths got their foothold. Bats, vampires, energetic and otherwise. It is incredibly interesting that when the PTW create a cataclysm, they always blame it on some poor defenseless bat!

Bat $ hite crazy, IMHO.

And to all 262 amazing and enlightening posts on this thread, please accept this ONE BIG THANKS! I have been lurking from my work phone, but haven't been able to log in until I got home from travels. You all are amazing, intelligent beings who will no doubt save us all one day!

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I was sent this link about Dosages and Treatments for Coronavirus Infections.

Just passing it on.

I am not qualified to pass judgement on this information.


https://drsircus.com/general/dosages-and-treatments-for-coronavirus-infections/

[bluestflame]

just got this from me feed on twitter , concerning if true https://twitter.com/CelebratingAus/status/1223113382376562691

"I just got off the phone to a mate who works in customs at sydney Airport..he said there is a HUGE influx of Chinese fleeing to
🇦🇺
Australia.. airlines are INCREASING their flights. Flights come here full & go back empty to pick up more"

[AriG]

just got this from me feed on twitter , concerning if true https://twitter.com/CelebratingAus/status/1223113382376562691

"I just got off the phone to a mate who works in customs at sydney Airport..he said there is a HUGE influx of Chinese fleeing to
🇦🇺
Australia.. airlines are INCREASING their flights. Flights come here full & go back empty to pick up more"

Are the "authorities" testing these people? Increasing flights? Holy cow. Not the way to contain a pathogen. :(

[Ascension]

a tweet too far...

Zerohedge's twitter account suspended over releasing the personal information of a Wuhan scientist and accusing him of creating coronavirus as a bioweapon.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/a-pro-trump-blog-has-doxed-a-chinese-scientist-it-falsely

Twitter said the account was closed for violating "platform manipulation policy"...whatever that means.

Wonder if this isn't more about the pro-Trump and/or amplification of conspiracy theories angle than the reason given by Twitter.

[AriG]

I was sent this link about Dosages and Treatments for Coronavirus Infections.

Just passing it on.

I am not qualified to pass judgement on this information.


https://drsircus.com/general/dosages-and-treatments-for-coronavirus-infections/

that is a lot of stuff to throw at a person who may have been compromised? I would think that the Magnesium/Selenium component would be most useful. Iodine, as a supplement for most thyroid sufferers is poison. Most Western cases of thyroid disease suffer from Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (as do I). Iodine is like throwing fuel on a fire for these sufferers.

Simple solution? Eat Brazil nuts. 10 or so per day. Great combo of selenium/magnesium/potassium.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Buzzfeed is just an mainstream gatekeeper. Zerohedge has been running a series of articles which indicate that the virus was artificially created by the Chinese (probably in their Wuhan level 4 lab) and then accidentally released. This is very important and well worth researching particularly as the information is being suppressed by the mainstream. Zerohedge got a permanent ban from Twitter for discussion of the evidence and an Indian academic paper with the details!

Also good to follow this academic on Twitter. He doesn’t believe the virus is artificial but he can see the Indian research clearly shows that something very weird is going on with this virus. The middle section of the virus looks like a cut and paste from the HIV virus and reports from Chinese hospitals even show that the virus responded to HIV medication!

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

More background:

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/real-umbrella-corp-wuhan-ultra-biohazard-lab-was-studying-worlds-most-dangerous-pathogens

https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/

For balance: Dr Eric Ding just posted this article which debunks the Indian academic study. I haven’t the expertise to evaluate:

https://theprepared.com/blog/no-the-2019-ncov-genome-doesnt-actually-seem-engineered-from-hiv/

[Innocent Warrior]

just got this from me feed on twitter , concerning if true https://twitter.com/CelebratingAus/status/1223113382376562691

"I just got off the phone to a mate who works in customs at sydney Airport..he said there is a HUGE influx of Chinese fleeing to
🇦🇺
Australia.. airlines are INCREASING their flights. Flights come here full & go back empty to pick up more"

Are the "authorities" testing these people? Increasing flights? Holy cow. Not the way to contain a pathogen. :(

I’ve been staying informed as best I can because my son regularly uses public transport (trains, and our suburb is a busy transport hub where people catch buses from the end of the train line).

Our state government here in Queensland just held crisis talks due to the lack of transparency of the federal government. Two Chinese nationals tested positive on the Gold Coast (many people travel between there and here in Brisbane daily), after arriving in Melbourne from Wuhan and taking a domestic flight from Melbourne to the Gold Coast. The first confirmed case became symptomatic during the flight and he stayed at a Gold Coast resort for 24 hours before being hospitalised (the second confirmed case travelled with him, along with others, seven IIRC). Our premier has been provided all the details about that domestic flight but held crisis talks because the federal government won’t give any information in the international flight. Why?

The kids here just recently began the new school year after the Christmas holidays and the parents of three Queensland schools have received notices informing them that students from those schools have been isolated because they were in the same domestic flight as the infected cases. They wouldn’t confirm that those students attended school for the first two days and they haven’t closed the schools (remember the first case became symptomatic during flight). Pretty much nobody misses the first days of school and if they didn’t attend school then why not say so? And why inform the parents if they didn’t attend school? Two of those schools are in suburbs close to ours, the other is on the Gold Coast.

The Federal government still hasn’t banned flights from China, this makes no sense. Neither the federal or state government is instilling confidence that they can contain the virus here in Australia, although at least the premier here is calling for banning the flights out of China. Looks like we’ll be seeing it here first hand in our neck of the woods soon. Hopefully we’ll get lucky, the environment here lately is the best we could hope for, we’ve had a lot of rain recently and it’s been humid every day for weeks, and there’s no shortage of sunshine for vitamin D (weather can be compared to Florida’s).

My son is a healthy young man in his late teens and has been using the trains up until a couple of days ago, but after reading the following information I’m banning him until we are better informed of the current situation (Trevor Drew is the director of the CSRIO's Australian Animal Health Laboratory, spearheading vaccine efforts).

The following is and excerpt from the article titled, “Coronavirus ‘deadlier than it looks’, virologist warns” -

Professor Drew said early indications that the disease was killing less than 2 per cent of victims in China could be misleading ­because of the potential for it to evolve rapidly and gain ­potency. He spoke out as the first batch of a world-first Australian-grown virus arrived at a CSIRO lab outside Geelong, paving the way for a fast-tracked vaccine to enter preclinical trials within weeks.

Professor Drew said it was ­better to think of the emergent Wuhan strain as a “cloud” of closely matched pathogens rather than a single virus. In a “high-host-density environment” such as heavily populated China, it could rapidly mutate and become more deadly. “You may well find that more virulent viruses emerge from that cloud,” he said.

SOURCE (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/science/coronavirus-deadlier-than-it-looks-virologist-warns/news-story/3ff079f3358984b5cce7c56444538369)

[yuhui]

Buzzfeed is just an mainstream gatekeeper. Zerohedge has been running a series of articles which indicate that the virus was artificially created by the Chinese (probably in their Wuhan level 4 lab) and then accidentally released. This is very important and well worth researching particularly as the information is being suppressed by the mainstream. Zerohedge got a permanent ban from Twitter for discussion of the evidence and an Indian academic paper with the details!

Also good to follow this academic on Twitter. He doesn’t believe the virus is artificial but he can see the Indian research clearly shows that something very weird is going on with this virus. The middle section of the virus looks like a cut and paste from the HIV virus and reports from Chinese hospitals even show that the virus responded to HIV medication!

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

More background:

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/real-umbrella-corp-wuhan-ultra-biohazard-lab-was-studying-worlds-most-dangerous-pathogens

https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/

For balance: Dr Eric Ding just posted this article which debunks the Indian academic study. I haven’t the expertise to evaluate:

https://theprepared.com/blog/no-the-2019-ncov-genome-doesnt-actually-seem-engineered-from-hiv/


More notes regarding the Indian academic study from Trevor Bedford: https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1223337991168380928

[yuhui]

Early Transmission Dynamics in Wuhan, China, of Novel Coronavirus–Infected Pneumonia


https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2001316

BACKGROUND
The initial cases of novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV)–infected pneumonia (NCIP) occurred in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China, in December 2019 and January 2020. We analyzed data on the first 425 confirmed cases in Wuhan to determine the epidemiologic characteristics of NCIP.

RESULTS
Among the first 425 patients with confirmed NCIP, the median age was 59 years and 56% were male. The majority of cases (55%) with onset before January 1, 2020, were linked to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, as compared with 8.6% of the subsequent cases. The mean incubation period was 5.2 days (95% confidence interval [CI], 4.1 to 7.0), with the 95th percentile of the distribution at 12.5 days. In its early stages, the epidemic doubled in size every 7.4 days. With a mean serial interval of 7.5 days (95% CI, 5.3 to 19), the basic reproductive number was estimated to be 2.2 (95% CI, 1.4 to 3.9).


“The virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace.” New data suggests that #2019nCoV did not originate at the Wuhan seafood market. IDSA member Daniel Lucey, MD, FIDSA says the 1st human infections likely surfaced in Nov.

https://sciencespeaksblog.org/2020/01/25/wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov-qa-6-an-evidence-based-hypothesis/



A collection of research data on twitter:
https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1221020657242333184

[Innocent Warrior]

The Federal government still hasn’t banned flights from China

Update, published half an hour ago -

Australians told not to travel to mainland China due to coronavirus threat, border restrictions tightened considerably

Australia has upgraded its travel advice in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak to include all of mainland China to level four, "do not travel", Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) has advised Australians not to travel to China due to the "escalating threat" of the virus, while asking those who have returned from the country to self-isolate for 14 days.

Mr Morrison said DFAT had recommended the implementation of additional border measures, which would deny entry to Australia for people who have left or transited through mainland China from today.

Exceptions will be made for Australian citizens, permanent residents and their immediate family, as well as air crews who have been using appropriate personal protective equipment.

"In addition to that, there'll be advanced screening and reception arrangements put into place at the major airports to facilitate identifying and providing this information and ensuring the appropriate precautions are being put in place," Mr Morrision said.

Full article (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-01/australians-told-not-to-travel-to-china-due-to-coronavirus/11920742).

Yessss, that’s a relief. :)

[Bill Ryan]

With a mean serial interval of 7.5 days (95% CI, 5.3 to 19), the basic reproductive number was estimated to be 2.2 (95% CI, 1.4 to 3.9).This is the most important number to track.

Here's one site where the stats are updated in real time:


https://worldometers.info/coronavirus

About 12 hours ago, this showed the jump to nearly 12,000 cases hours before the mainstream media picked it up and reported it.

But when the number of cases jumped, they also amended their R0 figure. It had earlier been 2 point something low. (I never took a screenshot.) Then they jumped it to 3-4.

This is because of the same new study that Chris Martenson cited in his latest video (see post #257 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333850&viewfull=1#post1333850)), mathematically predicting impossible global infection numbers and the logical necessity for what Mike Adams calls "a shutdown of society".

http://projectavalon.net/coronavirus_worldometer.gif

Here's what their footnotes say.

This is crucial. It's the most important number to follow.

~~~
How contagious is the Wuhan Coronavirus? (R0)

The attack rate or transmissibility (how rapidly the disease spreads) of a virus is indicated by its reproductive number (R0, pronounced R-nought or r-zero), which represents the average number of people who will catch the disease from a single infected person.

A more recent study is indicating an R0 as high as 4.08.[22 (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#ref-22)]. This value substantially exceeds WHO's estimate (made on Jan. 23) of between 1.4 and 2.5[13 (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#ref-13)], and is also higher than recent estimates between 3.6 and 4.0 and between 2.24 to 3.58 [23 (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#ref-23)]. Preliminary studies had estimated R0 to be between 1.5 and 3.5 [5 (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#ref-5)][6 (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#ref-6)][7 (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#ref-7)]

Based on these numbers, on average every case of the Novel Coronavirus would create 3 to 4 new cases.

An outbreak with a reproductive number of below 1 will gradually disappear.

For comparison, the R0 for the common flu is 1.3 and for SARS it was 2.0.

[Bill Ryan]

More about Chris Martenson's numbers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333850&viewfull=1#post1333850). An R0 of 4 is crazy-serious (3 is serious enough), but it's not quite as apocalyptic as Mortenson's spreadsheet numbers show. I'll see if I can explain why he got it wrong.

That's not to dismiss the importance of this very high R0. But his math isn't quite right.

What follows here is for science project geeks. :) But most of you may be able to get the picture easily.

Here's what he showed in his video:

http://projectavalon.net/Chris_Martenson_projections.gif

That enormous number of total infections after 20 days at R0=4 is 366 billion. (Yes, you read that right. :) )

But here's why that's not the correct figure, if we assume that Martenson equated "cycles" to days. (And that term he used suggests he may be aware of this, but just did a kind of quick back-of-an-envelope calculation to show the potential severity.)

He basically assumes that someone who's infected, and therefore infectious, will spread it all to others all within 24 hours, or at least all at once. That's why the growth is geometric (parabolically near-vertical). Of course, that near-instant transmission won't necessarily happen.

It is more likely that someone who's infected, but doesn't know it, will spread it around quickly as they go about their normal life in cities, buses and shopping malls. (And within their friends and family, too.) But one can't predict that will happen immediately.

Any cross-infection will be spread over a 14 day incubation period before the unfortunate person who's infected realizes they're sick.

That model still produces the same numbers over time, but over a longer time period. So it needs to be adjusted. The 14 day incubation period is a kind of buffer.

How it may really work is that if an infectious person is going to spread it to 4 other people, the 1st might be on Day 2, the 2nd on Day 5, the 3rd on Day 8, and the 4th on Day 12. Or any permutation of those. So the equation needs to take all that into account.

I'll see if I can generate the more probable numbers, using days rather than "cycles", factoring in the likely delayed transmission to others.

[Innocent Warrior]

Some reports on the heroic and heartwarming stories coming out of Wuhan.

Local heroes: Wuhan motorists defy virus threat to help neighbours (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/wuhan-virus-lockdown-china-locals-12348344)

Coronavirus: Tales of solidarity from China's virus-hit Wuhan (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51276496)

Wuhan Residents Find Ways To Spread Cheer During Coronavirus Lockdown (https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/wuhan-residents-find-ways-to-spread-cheer-during-coronavirus-lockdown-2171880)

INSPIRING 31 Wuhan Nurses Chop Off Their Long Hair So They Have More Time To Take Care Of Patients (https://www.worldofbuzz.com/31-wuhan-nurses-chop-off-their-long-hair-so-they-have-more-time-to-take-care-of-patients/)

Coronavirus outbreak: doctor in Wuhan hospital dies as army medics flown in (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/25/coronavirus-outbreak-doctor-in-wuhan-hospital-dies-as-army-medics-flown-in)

:heart:

[Bill Ryan]

Some reports on the heroic and heartwarming stories coming out of Wuhan.

Local heroes: Wuhan motorists defy virus threat to help neighbours (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/wuhan-virus-lockdown-china-locals-12348344)

Coronavirus: Tales of solidarity from China's virus-hit Wuhan (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51276496)

Wuhan Residents Find Ways To Spread Cheer During Coronavirus Lockdown (https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/wuhan-residents-find-ways-to-spread-cheer-during-coronavirus-lockdown-2171880)

INSPIRING 31 Wuhan Nurses Chop Off Their Long Hair So They Have More Time To Take Care Of Patients (https://www.worldofbuzz.com/31-wuhan-nurses-chop-off-their-long-hair-so-they-have-more-time-to-take-care-of-patients/)

Coronavirus outbreak: doctor in Wuhan hospital dies as army medics flown in (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/25/coronavirus-outbreak-doctor-in-wuhan-hospital-dies-as-army-medics-flown-in)

:heart:Yes. :heart: There's an inspired line in the wonderful 1984 film Starman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starman_(film)). The Starman, (Jeff Bridges, a visiting alien being) explains — referring to the human race:
Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? You are at your very best when things are worst.

[Bill Ryan]

As of a few minutes ago, thousands of Hong Kong doctors, nurses and hospital employees have voted for a strike which could begin as early as Monday, to press the government to close all borders with mainland China.


https://scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3048548/caronavirus-thousands-hong-kong-hospital-workers

It seems so obvious that border closure has to happen. All of China has to be placed in quarantine.

Most governments, maybe concerned about economic or social impact, have been way too slow to do this.

It may even be too late now. But it'd have been far wiser to take strong action immediately and then relax it all a little later if the decisive action proved to have been unnecessary. The problem we have now: we can't go back in time and stop incoming flights 10 days ago.

The first hub of spread is China. But the second is the US. The US authorities are being irresponsible, and maybe criminal. The major airlines, one by one, are taking their own action, while the US government does little or nothing.

Even Alex Jones is critical of Trump for not acting decisively. As a pragmatic businessman who's managed risk all his life, he should know exactly what to do. It's hard to understand: the implication is either another agenda, and/or that he's not able to take action because he's not permitted to.

[Bill Ryan]

This informed caller to the Infowars War Room ("David", a Navy veteran, who then worked in the DIA in counter-terrorism), while being intelligent and measured, presents a persuasive case that this may indeed be a bioweapon.

He argues that the Chinese government knows exactly what this is, have done so from the start, knows it's airborne (which is why they've been spraying the empty streets) — and are 'scared to death'.

It checks all the criteria. And even if it's not, it may as well be a bioweapon.

Ignore the silly goofiness at the start. The call begins at 2:03. It's worth listening to.

5e34eddc79c864001ef66bebSource: https://vod-api.infowars.com/embed/5e34eddc79c864001ef66beb

[Sarah Rainsong]

More about Chris Martenson's numbers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333850&viewfull=1#post1333850). An R0 of 4 is crazy-serious (3 is serious enough), but it's not quite as apocalyptic as Mortenson's spreadsheet numbers show. I'll see if I can explain why he got it wrong.

That's not to dismiss the importance of this very high R0. But his math isn't quite right.

What follows here is for science project geeks. :) But most of you may be able to get the picture easily.

Here's what he showed in his video:

http://projectavalon.net/Chris_Martenson_projections.gif

That enormous number of total infections after 20 days at R0=4 is 366 billion. (Yes, you read that right. :) )

But here's why that's not the correct figure, if we assume that Martenson equated "cycles" to days. (And that term he used suggests he may be aware of this, but just did a kind of quick back-of-an-envelope calculation to show the potential severity.)

He basically assumes that someone who's infected, and therefore infectious, will spread it all to others all within 24 hours, or at least all at once. That's why the growth is geometric (parabolically near-vertical). Of course, that near-instant transmission won't necessarily happen.

It is more likely that someone who's infected, but doesn't know it, will spread it around quickly as they go about their normal life in cities, buses and shopping malls. (And within their friends and family, too.) But one can't predict that will happen immediately.

Any cross-infection will be spread over a 14 day incubation period before the unfortunate person who's infected realizes they're sick.

That model still produces the same numbers over time, but over a longer time period. So it needs to be adjusted. The 14 day incubation period is a kind of buffer.

How it may really work is that if an infectious person is going to spread it to 4 other people, the 1st might be on Day 2, the 2nd on Day 5, the 3rd on Day 8, and the 4th on Day 12. Or any permutation of those. So the equation needs to take all that into account.

I'll see if I can generate the more probable numbers, using days rather than "cycles", factoring in the likely delayed transmission to others.

Another thing to note about the math and how it spreads, is that once a particular area is saturated with cases, there will be no one left to get it unless someone travels outside that area. Those kind of instances (if properly reported) will affect the R0 number.

I'm a bit angry right now for the lack of proper reporting. I have heard from several anecdotal sources (my friend's niece, my aunt's friend, that kind of thing) that people who have been possibly exposed 2nd hand (like being on a flight with a person later confirmed to have nCOV) and showing symptoms--but not serious enough to be hospitalized--are being refused tests.

[silvanelf]

More about Chris Martenson's numbers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333850&viewfull=1#post1333850). An R0 of 4 is crazy-serious (3 is serious enough), but it's not quite as apocalyptic as Mortenson's spreadsheet numbers show. I'll see if I can explain why he got it wrong.

That's not to dismiss the importance of this very high R0. But his math isn't quite right.

What follows here is for science project geeks. :) But most of you may be able to get the picture easily.

Here's what he showed in his video:

http://projectavalon.net/Chris_Martenson_projections.gif

That enormous number of total infections after 20 days at R0=4 is 366 billion. (Yes, you read that right. :) )

But here's why that's not the correct figure, if we assume that Martenson equated "cycles" to days. (And that term he used suggests he may be aware of this, but just did a kind of quick back-of-an-envelope calculation to show the potential severity.)

[...]



That's your assumption. Sorry, you are confusing days and cycles here.

I've cross-checked Martenson's video to see whether he became sloppy to confuse 'days' and 'cycles' ... No, Martenson talked always about cycles and the diagram above says clearly "New infections each cycle" ...


He basically assumes that someone who's infected, and therefore infectious, will spread it all to others all within 24 hours, or at least all at once. That's why the growth is geometric (parabolically near-vertical). Of course, that near-instant transmission won't necessarily happen.

Martenson assumes for simplicity that all these transmissions take place all at the same time: after one cycle.

[Innocent Warrior]

As of a few minutes ago, thousands of Hong Kong doctors, nurses and hospital employees have voted for a strike which could begin as early as Monday, to press the government to close all borders with mainland China.


https://scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3048548/caronavirus-thousands-hong-kong-hospital-workers

It seems so obvious that border closure has to happen. All of China has to be placed in quarantine.

Most governments, maybe concerned about economic or social impact, have been way too slow to do this.

It may even be too late now. But it'd have been far wiser to take strong action immediately and then relax it all a little later if the decisive action proved to have been unnecessary. The problem we have now: we can't go back in time and stop incoming flights 10 days ago.

The first hub of spread is China. But the second is the US. The US authorities are being irresponsible, and maybe criminal. The major airlines, one by one, are taking their own action, while the US government does little or nothing.

Even Alex Jones is critical of Trump for not acting decisively. As a pragmatic businessman who's managed risk all his life, he should know exactly what to do. It's hard to understand: the implication is either another agenda, and/or that he's not able to take action because he's not permitted to.

Agree, way too slow. An update on the US, they have now closed their borders, it must have been around the same time as Australia did, I saw it reported at the same time. This measure is against the advice of the WHO and the Chinese government isn’t pleased, which is unreasonable given we now know it could mutate rapidly in China and become more deadly (and Trump offered them whatever resources they require). See the following article for more details: Coronavirus: US and Australia close borders to Chinese arrivals (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51338899)

[Tintin]

So when this unfolding situation started looking ominous, I could not help but recall the words of Bill's 'Anglo Saxon Mission' and how it does seem that albeit quite delayed, the dire warnings from 2010 seem to have been teleported along an extended timeline into 2020. "China will catch a cold". A corona virus is responsible for the common cold, but in the hands of the likes of Netanyahu and Bolton? A definitive weapon of mass destruction indeed.

On the ground here - obtaining medical face masks consumed most of my day. I had some real estate business to attend in the Queen City area and as I headed South, I made numerous stops to obtain some medical masks that would assist my husband and I in our travel schedules. Stop one - Ft. Mitchell, KY CVS - all of the masks are gone. Upon inquiry, the staff said they were told to "pull them off the shelf". Stop#2, Costco - Florence, KY. All "sold out". Stop #3 - Walton Pharmacy, Walton KY - two boxes of five glorified dust masks left available, medical grade masks sent to Homeland Security. Stop #5, Williamstown, KY, rinky dink pharmacy - one box of medial grade masks on the shelf, sold individually at 1.25 each. Bought eight. Stop #6 - Dollar Store, Dry Ridge KY - sanding masks available, bought ten paks. Stop #7, Walmart, Dry Ridge Ky - staff told to pull all stock to send to Homeland Security.

Got back to the farm - watched the live stream Youtube coverage of the White House declaring Coronavirus a US Health Emergency. This has never happened. We have never had a medical emergency.

Planning on pulling my sister and mother in from the city and sequestering all necessary resources for at least a two month period.

This is Kentucky, folks. Couldn't imagine what's going on on the coast.

Be well.

edit to add:

my shopping adventure was one of concern as I attempted to order necessary supplies from Amazon yesterday. At least a two month delay on masks. Thank goodness I have all other medical supplies including sutures and lidocaine, penicillin jabs and necessaries.

Yes, a similar corroboration came to us at work yesterday.

We have a US distributor who is currently at a major photonics exhibition in San Francisco and had written us that masks - I can't recall which specific ones - have more or less all been snapped up, in that city, as far as he can tell.

[Ernie Nemeth]

We had a snowstorm in Toronto a few weeks back. They would not shut up about it for days before the event claiming it would be the mother of all storms. We barely got six inches...news is no longer news. Nothing authorities say can be trusted.

And here is what I have learned in my time on this planet. The one thing you can be sure of is that whatever they tell you is never the truth. And the news just wants you to tune in for ratings. Sensationalism is the best way to do that.

But go ahead and cry wolf.

[syrwong]

The HK government already disallowed most Chinese from mainland to come to HK, except with particular kinds of visa. Only the main border crossings are still open. It is not practical and very disruptive to close the border with the mainland. Many Hong Kong people work in the mainland and a lot have not returned to HK. The majority of them are in nearby GuangDong province anyway.

The call to close the border is instigated by the "Yellow Ribbon" which supported the riots, is anti-government and promotes HK-independence.

It is a great shame that while medical personnels are rushing from other provinces to Wuhan and at this dangerous times the Hong Kong couterparts start this strike to blackmail the government. Hong Kong already have one case not directly related to China. An old man only toured Japan recently got this virus.

[Bill Ryan]

Martenson assumes for simplicity that all these transmissions take place all at the same time: after one cycle.Yes, fully agreed. :thumbsup:

My point was really that for each infectious carrier, there's going to be a spread of the R0 infection over the 14 days before (presumably) the patient gets sick and is isolated. It's not going to happen all at once. That means a more complex calculation, showing the real time effect of the growth.

I do understand that Martenson didn't have time to do this before he felt he needed to make his urgent video update. All the points he made in his video (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333850&viewfull=1#post1333850) were totally appropriate and very important.

I assumed R0=4, and transmission to others from each infectious person occurred on Days 2, 5, 8 and 12. That created an enormously complicated spreadsheet. :)

I calculated that once Patient Zero started infecting others on Day 1, roughly 3500 others would be infected after 28 days. (That number might actually be close.)

After that, the escalating domino effect goes astronomical if uncontained. The exact numbers barely matter. It becomes a strategic problem, not a tactical one.

But Day 1 seems to have been in late November. (No-one knows who Patient Zero was — or where it started. Most researchers now profoundly doubt the animal market was the origin.)

The first diagnosis was on 8 December, after hospital admission on 1 December. [Source (https://sciencespeaksblog.org/2020/01/25/wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov-qa-6-an-evidence-based-hypothesis/)] The Chinese stayed very quiet about it all till it was impossible to contain the information. (Not the virus!)

It seems likely that the real numbers of those currently infected are already in the hundreds of thousands. 80% of those might not know it yet.

[Caliban]

Below is from Rappoport's latest piece. He's written many articles since this thing hit the press, all informed by many years of research:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/


If you’re working for a major public health agency, cooking up case numbers and exploiting fear are part of your every-day arsenal. They have to be. Otherwise, you could be caught with your pants down. “Sorry, folks, that world-ending global pandemic we were telling you about last week? It didn’t pan out. Most of the cases are mild, on the order of a bad cold, and a lot of cases we pretty much made up. We got carried away. After all, we’re basic salespeople for the vaccine industry…”

Remember West Nile, bird flu, Zika, and way back, the Swine Flu scare of 1976? They were all hyped to the sky. They were all predicted to sweep across the world. They were all connected, by some people, to “engineered viruses in biowar labs, against which we don’t stand a chance.” And they were all duds. The case numbers—when the smoke cleared—were miniscule. That’s called a CLUE.

But you see, there is a thing called The Church of the Virus. It’s quite amazing. People simply hear the word VIRUS and they fall down on their knees. Some of these people were, up to the moment when an epidemic was declared, saying that building up the immune system through basic natural means was a fine defense against germs, BUT—all of a sudden, they’re paralyzed and hypnotized by The Word. VIRUS. Now they’ll go the World Health Organization one better. That Agency is saying there may be 10,000 cases? The paralyzed members of the Church will say, “No, there are a hundred thousand cases. Probably a million by nightfall.”

So my strategy is to get out ahead of the Church. I’m saying: there are 30 trillion cases of the Chinese epidemic, we’re all locked down, we’re all dead already. Okay? End of story. It’s been told. NOW, let’s look around. Are there still people? Are we still here? Are there trees and animals and clouds and sky?

[silvanelf]

Presumably there is a lack of sufficient capacity to check all these suspected cases, but this may change soon:


New test kits for coronavirus approved in China

BEIJING, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) -- A batch of nucleic acid reagent test kits for the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) has been approved by the National Medical Products Administration (NMPA) and received a medical device registration certificate.

The kits, developed by Sansure Biotech, a Changsha-based biotech company, can shorten detection time and recognize suspected cases, especially latent infections.

Helped by an automatic nucleic acid extractor and a mobile molecular diagnostic platform developed by Sansure Biotech, the kits can generate test results in 30 minutes.

The NMPA approved four new products for testing the new coronavirus on Jan. 26.

The products, including reagent test kits and a sequencing system of the virus, are expected to speed up the diagnosis process and further expand the supply capacity of virus detection products.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/30/c_138742202.htm

[silvanelf]

just got this from me feed on twitter , concerning if true https://twitter.com/CelebratingAus/status/1223113382376562691

"I just got off the phone to a mate who works in customs at sydney Airport..he said there is a HUGE influx of Chinese fleeing to
🇦🇺
Australia.. airlines are INCREASING their flights. Flights come here full & go back empty to pick up more"

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Let me guess: planeloads of wealthy Chinese vacationers?

[Bill Ryan]

Below is from Rappoport's latest piece. He's written many articles since this thing hit the press, all informed by many years of research:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/

Are there still people? Are we still here? Are there trees and animals and clouds and sky?Made me laugh. :) I have immense respect for Jon Rappoport. Like a veteran war correspondent, he's seen it all. He's 81 years old, still standing strong. He's not going to be cowed or bowed by anything.

But at the risk of seeming like an impudent neophyte, I think he may be wrong here. This feels serious to me, based on all the public information I can find.

Even if you and I are in no personal danger, this could be like an asteroid going through functioning western society, and the economy. As phone-in caller "David", a Navy veteran and DIA operative, told the Infowars War Room yesterday (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333959&viewfull=1#post1333959), the Chinese government seem to know what this really is, and seem to be really scared.

So maybe the wolf was called incorrectly in earlier years — but now might actually be here. In a couple of weeks, we'll definitely know, and it might be earlier. What I'm trying to do personally on this thread is not frighten people, but keep people accurately informed: one of the functions of Avalon we're proud of, for all its members and guests.

[Sarah Rainsong]

Watch what they do, not what they say. I have a hard time believing it's nothing when the Chinese government is willing to build three (?) new hospitals and shut down travel to such a huge population.

How many times has the US declared a national public emergency?

Eventually, the wolf actually shows up.

[Delight]

This is my take away so far....I DON'T KNOW IF This is a wolf.

The best thing IMO we can ALL do now is consider locating outside a major population center ASAP. It looks like cities are not the best place for healthy people anyway. There are many reasons to live in a smaller community but IMO the cards are showing that for lots of reasons we will be better off into the future outside urban/suburban areas.

Learning I have consolidated in the last week is

1. Practice NOT moving my hands above my shoulders unless I have deliberate reasons like brush my hair and teeth etc... and after hand washing.

2. Be aware of touching surfaces and use bleach to wipe down fomites.

3. Talk to others about what I know about viruses and spread awareness versus hysteria.

4. Don't go around hugging and shaking hands (is it time to do the Bowing greeting?)

5. Stock up on the supplements (Thanks for all the suggestions)

6. Plan to have a bigger garden this spring.

7. Think about how to completely isolate if needed.

8. NEVER EVER EVER get a vaccine.

Questions I have are about the usefulness of masks (maybe they have too great a porosity?

This is an interesting video I did not see posted

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[Tintin]

just got this from me feed on twitter , concerning if true https://twitter.com/CelebratingAus/status/1223113382376562691

"I just got off the phone to a mate who works in customs at sydney Airport..he said there is a HUGE influx of Chinese fleeing to
🇦🇺
Australia.. airlines are INCREASING their flights. Flights come here full & go back empty to pick up more"

Are the "authorities" testing these people? Increasing flights? Holy cow. Not the way to contain a pathogen. :(

I’ve been staying informed as best I can because my son regularly uses public transport (trains, and our suburb is a busy transport hub where people catch buses from the end of the train line).

Our state government here in Queensland just held crisis talks due to the lack of transparency of the federal government. Two Chinese nationals tested positive on the Gold Coast (many people travel between there and here in Brisbane daily), after arriving in Melbourne from Wuhan and taking a domestic flight from Melbourne to the Gold Coast. The first confirmed case became symptomatic during the flight and he stayed at a Gold Coast resort for 24 hours before being hospitalised (the second confirmed case travelled with him, along with others, seven IIRC). Our premier has been provided all the details about that domestic flight but held crisis talks because the federal government won’t give any information in the international flight. Why?

The kids here just recently began the new school year after the Christmas holidays and the parents of three Queensland schools have received notices informing them that students from those schools have been isolated because they were in the same domestic flight as the infected cases. They wouldn’t confirm that those students attended school for the first two days and they haven’t closed the schools (remember the first case became symptomatic during flight). Pretty much nobody misses the first days of school and if they didn’t attend school then why not say so? And why inform the parents if they didn’t attend school? Two of those schools are in suburbs close to ours, the other is on the Gold Coast.

The Federal government still hasn’t banned flights from China, this makes no sense. Neither the federal or state government is instilling confidence that they can contain the virus here in Australia, although at least the premier here is calling for banning the flights out of China. Looks like we’ll be seeing it here first hand in our neck of the woods soon. Hopefully we’ll get lucky, the environment here lately is the best we could hope for, we’ve had a lot of rain recently and it’s been humid every day for weeks, and there’s no shortage of sunshine for vitamin D (weather can be compared to Florida’s).

My son is a healthy young man in his late teens and has been using the trains up until a couple of days ago, but after reading the following information I’m banning him until we are better informed of the current situation (Trevor Drew is the director of the CSRIO's Australian Animal Health Laboratory, spearheading vaccine efforts).

The following is and excerpt from the article titled, “Coronavirus ‘deadlier than it looks’, virologist warns” -

Professor Drew said early indications that the disease was killing less than 2 per cent of victims in China could be misleading ­because of the potential for it to evolve rapidly and gain ­potency. He spoke out as the first batch of a world-first Australian-grown virus arrived at a CSIRO lab outside Geelong, paving the way for a fast-tracked vaccine to enter preclinical trials within weeks.

Professor Drew said it was ­better to think of the emergent Wuhan strain as a “cloud” of closely matched pathogens rather than a single virus. In a “high-host-density environment” such as heavily populated China, it could rapidly mutate and become more deadly. “You may well find that more virulent viruses emerge from that cloud,” he said.

SOURCE (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/science/coronavirus-deadlier-than-it-looks-virologist-warns/news-story/3ff079f3358984b5cce7c56444538369)

Wow :facepalm: re Innocent Warrior's link to The Australian: well, that produced a paywall, and every other Australian newspaper too (I'd copied and pasted into Google a sentence from the article snip shared here.)

Blinking flip. So, Australian mainstream newspaper sources are impossible to access [from the UK without having to subscribe] as well now? Whatever next :facepalm:

:focus:

[Bill Ryan]

The latest from Chris Martenson, just over an hour ago.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8SQzIMAXnQ

[Bill Ryan]

Here's someone who spent quite some time on spreadsheet modeling, creating an Excel prediction tool in which you can enter all the variables you'd like to check out. (I'm not convinced this is accurate or useful, but it's interesting to see.)


https://andology.com/wp-content/uploads/Corona_Virus_Outbreak_Prediction_Tool_v1.2.xlsx

[TEOTWAIKI]

This photo shows the britons, recently landed at Brize Norton, having flown over from Wutan being transported somewhere for quarantine.

What caught my eye was that the driver of the coach is clearly unprotected, whilst standing to his left is someone in full protective gear, presumably a medical orderly.

What goes on with the driver?!?

42405

Take note of the name of the coach.
I think there were four of these (although only three in the picture).
And the logo with the white horse.
Can the "four white horsemen (of the apocalypse)" be any more in your face?
They are laughing at us for sure...

[Dick]

Came across this new info: the title says it all, it contains parts of the HIV virus, but don’t know how reliable this is.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

[Bill Ryan]

Came across this new info: the title says it all, but don’t know how reliable this is.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweaponYes. A simple account of this is that there's a segment of the virus genome that appears to have been 'inserted', and doesn't come from any bat, snake, bird or pig (or anything else that's naturally plausible).

This has been commented on, cautiously, by a number of medically/biochemically qualified people. They all agree on the anomaly, but so far there's no agreed explanation.

[AriG]

This may not be relevant, but there is a zoonotic incidence of HIV in felines, big cats to domestic Its called FIV. Feline immunodeficiency virus. I recently had a cat diagnosed with this although he may be a carrier (fat and happy).

On another note, in a 17 mile stretch of I 75 yesterday, I counted six dead coyotes. That doesn’t happen. Coyotes don’t die on the highway. Also saw a dead fox off a major rural route being scavenged by black headed vultures. Again, doesn’t happen on major thoroughfares. And how about those locust in Kenya?!

Whatever is going on is affecting more than the human race. IMO.

[Dick]

But could it be possible that the HIV parts could kill the immune system, and so eventually killing the person who is infected? They made it, so they know what can happen.
That could explain why the chinese government is locking down whole city’s to try to stop it? And why they are in big panic.

[ExomatrixTV]

The Truth About the Coronavirus
M0TDtkn0uK4
Quality Analyses from:
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AGF-l79M-2yDU9EoNnDwCsm8UJacQVQJ87mX6i42sg=s88-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot)
Stefan Molyneux (https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/featured)
922,000+ subscribers


Stefan is. like me, born 1966 The Year of "The Fire Horse (http://astrologyk.com/zodiac/chinese/year/1966)" (Chinese Astrology).

https://horsetemperament.com/images/firehorse.jpg

[Sue (Ayt)]

To me, this article clearly shows a very early example of the effects of this virus on business, that is quite ominous.


Coronavirus Spreading in Munich Shows Difficulty Halting New Bug

A business event in Munich set off a chain of coronavirus infections that began with an infected colleague from Shanghai who showed no symptoms during a trip to the German city. It’s the largest reported cluster of cases caused by human-to-human spread outside China.

According to auto-parts supplier Webasto SE, seven of its employees -- five German and two Chinese -- have been infected with the new coronavirus, the cause of a massive pneumonia outbreak in China that the World Health Organization declared a global emergency on Thursday.

The infection appears to have been transmitted while a Shanghai-based colleague was still incubating the virus. The woman attended meetings from Jan. 19 to 22 at Webasto’s headquarters in Stockdorf, on Munich’s outskirts, with no signs or symptoms of infection, but she became unwell on her Jan. 22 flight back to China. She tested positive for the 2019-nCoV virus four days later, doctors said in the New England Journal of Medicine on Thursday.


The cases show the difficulty of controlling the contagion using methods such as fever-screening at airports. Almost 10,000 people across 20 countries are confirmed to have been infected with the new virus, which was first reported in the central Chinese city of Wuhan a month ago.


Mitigation strategies for halting the spread of 2019-nCoV have been informed by experiences combating coronaviruses that cause severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome. People don’t typically transmit those infections unless they have symptoms, said Benjamin Cowie, a professor of medicine at the University of Melbourne and an epidemiologist with the Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity.

“With this information suggesting that there is at least the ability to isolate or detect the virus in asymptomatic or apparently asymptomatic individuals, that’s got significant implications for epidemiological control measures,” he said. “If we’re trying to identify cases when they’re not symptomatic, that’s impossible on a clinical basis, and that then becomes a lot harder to control.”

An analysis by U.S. researchers of screening travelers found the strategy will, at best, detect less than half of infected travelers. Those who are incubating their infection may feel healthy enough to travel but show no detectable symptoms, they said in a Jan. 28 study.

Need for Reassessment?

“The fact that asymptomatic persons are potential sources of 2019-nCoV infection may warrant a reassessment of transmission dynamics of the current outbreak,” Camilla Rothe and colleagues at the University Hospital LMU Munich, who investigated the cluster in Germany, said in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine.

“With this information suggesting that there is at least the ability to isolate or detect the virus in asymptomatic or apparently asymptomatic individuals, that’s got significant implications for epidemiological control measures,” he said. “If we’re trying to identify cases when they’re not symptomatic, that’s impossible on a clinical basis, and that then becomes a lot harder to control.”

An analysis by U.S. researchers of screening travelers found the strategy will, at best, detect less than half of infected travelers. Those who are incubating their infection may feel healthy enough to travel but show no detectable symptoms, they said in a Jan. 28 study.

The first of the German cases occurred in an otherwise healthy 33-year-old businessman, who became ill with a sore throat, chills, and muscle ache on Jan. 24. He had a fever and a cough the next day, but by the evening of the following day, he started feeling better and went back to work on Jan. 27, the same day his China-based colleague told company officials that she was ill.

Swabs of the back of the man’s nose and throat, and a sputum sample tested positive for 2019-nCoV. Follow-up tests found he still harbored high levels of the virus in his sputum on Jan. 29, a day after three other employees tested positive, including two who hadn’t been in contact with the colleague from China.

Patients with confirmed 2019-nCoV were isolated in a Munich infectious diseases unit. All seven people attended various meetings together in Stockdorf, the company said in a statement Friday.

Some 122 staffers have returned negative tests for the coronavirus, with a few test results still pending, according to the company.

Webasto, which has about 13,000 workers in 50 different locations, said it will keep its headquarters closed until next Monday. The company is preparing for employees to return to work Tuesday, Feb. 4, amid reports that its workforce is being subjected to discriminating behavior.

“We are receiving an increasing number of reports from employees that they and their families are being turned away from institutions, companies or businesses when it becomes known that they work for Webasto,” Chairman Holger Engelmann said. “We understand that the current situation is unsettling and also frightening for people, but it cannot be that normal everyday life is no longer possible for people who do not belong to the risk group. This is an enormous burden for the families of our employees.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-31/coronavirus-spreading-in-munich-shows-difficulty-halting-new-bug

[Bill Ryan]

The Truth About the Coronavirus
M0TDtkn0uK4An excellent presentation by Stefan Molyneux. Most of the info I'm aware of is in there, and some that I wasn't. It's a very thorough yet concise summary of what is and isn't known right now (including the mysterious 'insert' anomaly, and the possible HIV connection), and a big-picture overview of the situation so far. All of his information comes from quoted, cited references, all in his YouTube descriptive text for anyone to check out.

[AriG]

This is a completely insane thought. Humor me. What if HIV is and always was present in all of us in a hidden and dormant state that requires a catalyst to activate it? What if Corona is that catalyst?

[ExomatrixTV]

#5G Launches In Wuhan Weeks Before Coronavirus Outbreak
5e335e772f3c020019a423f8
In this Infowars Special Report, Greg Reese connects the dots between the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a Netflix docuseries pitching vaccines as a solution to outbreaks, Wuhan’s recent launch of 5G and warnings from experts who say 5G could cause “flu-like symptoms.”

[Bill Ryan]

This is a completely insane thought. Humor me. What if HIV is and always was present in all of us in a hidden and dormant state that requires a catalyst to activate it? What if Corona is that catalyst?The anomalous 'inserted' section of the virus "encodes a multifunctional protein responsible for entry into host cells". (Stefan Molyneux's excellent video (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1334013&viewfull=1#post1334013), at 25:37.) I'm no microbiologist, but I suspect that's what's fueled suspicions about an HIV connection.

[silvanelf]

The first of the German cases occurred in an otherwise healthy 33-year-old businessman, who became ill with a sore throat, chills, and muscle ache on Jan. 24. He had a fever and a cough the next day, but by the evening of the following day, he started feeling better and went back to work on Jan. 27, the same day his China-based colleague told company officials that she was ill.



More about the so-called 'German coronavirus cluster' (or Bavaria cluster):


Bavaria nCoV Cluster Grows To Ten Cases In Three Countries
By niman, 2 hours ago in Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

Confirmation of nCoV in a Webasto company employee, 33M, from Munich increases the cluster to 10 including a business associate in Shanghai, a child of one of the employees, and an employee/tourist in the Canary Islands. The 10 person cluster is spread over six cities (Shanghai, Stockdorf, Fürstenfeldbruck, Traustein, Munich, La Gomera) in three countries (China ,Germany, Spain)

http://recombinomics.co/topic/4631-bavaria-ncov-cluster-grows-to-ten-cases-in-three-countries/

[ExomatrixTV]

China Deploys MASSIVE Drone Army Spraying Chemicals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfBxjTLRpU) To "Combat" Coronavirus

[syrwong]

More Chinese are believing they are suffering from a bioweapon attack, though I believe they are still a small minority. Articles like this is circulating in the social medias. This one is machine translated except for the highlighted important parts which is translated by me.


Forwarding: There is one not been refuted. No one has refuted the rumor in the biochemical test (gene strategy) in the United States! I am extremely afraid that the World Military Games will be held in Wuhan from October 18 to October 27, 2019, with 369 US soldiers participating. Before that, the United States had already tightened its visa for going to the United States. Judging from the longest incubation period of the virus, the first pneumonia patient was found on December 3. Pushed backward by one month, it is November 3. The patient was delayed in several hospitals for several days. The virus was transmitted to people on October,30, around the conclusion of the military games.

Judging from the current epidemic, the first batch of patients are concentrated in the vicinity of the Seafood City, which is located in the urban area and is not far from the US hotels of the Military Games. This time the US did not win a gold medal. Does it mean that the US side is targeting the South China Seafood City? I wonder if the camera records near the Seafood City can be checked. Peace has been going on for too long. I don't stare at my opponent when I put him in my house. I can only blame myself for the accident. On January 3, the United States killed Iran's Major General, while the number of Chinese patients suddenly increased to 44. If Iran did not demonstrate with the Beidou's navigation strike afterwards, the United States and Israel would definitely have launched a war of aggression against Iran. At the same time China was busy with the virus, Iran would have been defeated, the United States and Israel would control all the oil in the Middle East, and the Greater Middle East Plan would be completed. When SARS prevailed in Beijing in 2003, the United States and Britain invaded Iraq with all their strength. Coincidence, conspiracy, the evil of evil forces, the evil no extraordinary people can imagine.

[syrwong]

The world is heading toward an extremely dangerous situation. Disinformation and propagandas are all over the internet. I can sense a lot of anti-China sentiments in many posts in this thread. Imagine if China "happens to" be a victim of attack and it is doing a very good job in trying to contain the epidemic that may finally fail and millions killed (but still saved many). This can only be possible with the current system which is "authoritarian" in western standard. What about if in the Chinese internet lots and lots of rumours are circulating with the aim of destablizing the country? China bashing at the point of a serious global crisis will increase hostility between countries and races. That is the main ingredient of the third world war.

[Tangri]

From Kerry (Project Camelot (http://projectcamelotportal.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-bioweapon-predicted-by-2-camelot-whistleblowers/)) received by her on January 29th sent by somebody currently in Shanghai.

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...

The government is refusing to diagnose the virus, so that the official count of infected and the death toll remains low. I am hearing that a lot of deaths are marked as pneumonia since the victim was never diagnosed positively for Coronavirus.

...

I just want to point out that this is pretty much standard medical practice. Testing for viruses is expensive and requires specific resources that are limited. You just can't test everyone in an outbreak - not possible.

It's exactly the same for the flu in western countries. Rarely is it ever tested for. In Canada they government claims 8000+ people die each year from the flu. In reality there's usually less than 200 confirmed (tested) cases, and sometimes less than 100. They don't test for it, the assume the numbers, and people who get pneumonia and die, lend to that 8000 number, but most are never tested for influenza.

Thank you DeDukshyn,

This reminds me an old Canadian joke:

There was a chestna plane crash at New Founland City cemetery last month.

Oficials and experts recovered 1800 human remains form crashland and they are expecting more to find while they are digging more places.

If you don't know the Chestna plane and what cemetery contains,addition that never met with a New foundlanderian you would be terrified with the News.

Ps: Given data are inefficient to make an assumption for the time being.

[Bill Ryan]

China Deploys MASSIVE Drone Army Spraying Chemicals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfBxjTLRpU) To "Combat" Coronavirus

I can't listen to Timcast... sorry! But I found the the source article:


https://dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-drone-army-deployed-spray-21399569


Coronavirus drone army deployed to spray disinfectant across China cities

One drone managed to spray disinfectant across 16,000 square metres in just one morning in the latest attempt by Chinese authorities to combat the spread of coronavirus.

https://cf-images.eu-west-1.prod.boltdns.net/v1/static/2540076170001/f3c54e87-4d15-4410-ac45-ebfa985dacc9/ecf656ee-52e0-4ce2-b3f1-c358bff43c72/1280x720/match/image.jpg

China has deployed an army of drones to disperse disinfectant over villages and cities in the latest attempt to combat the spread of coronavirus.

At least 213 people have died from the killer disease since it was first contracted from a market in the city of Wuhan, Hubei Province.

The World Health Organization has since declared the outbreak a global emergency, with Brits trapped in the regions being evacuated on emergency flights.

Every region across the country has reported cases of coronavirus and China has now taken to using drones to try to prevent the spread.

Footage posted to social media in the coastal provinces of Jilin, Shandong and Zhejiang shows drones hovering in the air as disinfectant liquid is sprayed from their underside.

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article21399541.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/3_AsiaWire-DroneDisinfection-04.jpg
A drone deployed in China's eastern Shandong Province to disinfect a village
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The real significance here is that as suggested by "David", a Navy veteran who works for the DIA and called into the Infowars War Room (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333959&viewfull=1#post1333959), this may well mean that the Chinese authorities (a) know that the virus is airborne (and therefore possibly weaponized), and (b) may know something about how to kill it.

However, the drones aren't very effective. If it took one drone all morning to spray 16,000 sq meters, that's 130 meters x 130 meters. That's like two football (soccer) pitches. If a city is 13 km x 13 km, it'd take 5,000 drones to spray it in a day.

[syrwong]

Another tragic event after pig pandemic, Wuhan coronavirus (Chicken flu):

https://www.businessinsider.com/bird-flu-china-coronavirus-pathogenic-strain-of-h5n1-highly-2020-2

https://www.rt.com/news/479871-china-bird-flu-coronavirus/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

[Delight]

I think Paul Cottrell's channel is useful...

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Boxmining

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[bluestflame]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

"A 33-year-old otherwise healthy German businessman (Patient 1) became ill with a sore throat, chills, and myalgias on January 24, 2020. The following day, a fever of 39.1°C (102.4°F) developed, along with a productive cough. By the evening of the next day, he started feeling better and went back to work on January 27.
Figure 1. Timeline of Exposure to Index Patient with Asymptomatic 2019-CoV Infection in Germany.

Before the onset of symptoms, he had attended meetings with a Chinese business partner at his company near Munich on January 20 and 21. The business partner, a Shanghai resident, had visited Germany between Jan. 19 and 22. During her stay, she had been well with no signs or symptoms of infection but had become ill on her flight back to China, where she tested positive for 2019-nCoV on January 26 (index patient in Figure 1)."

[Delight]

In the video I posted with Paul Cottrell, he talked about the "Hiv insertions" and the effect on white blood cells.

"HIV infects and destroys certain white blood cells called CD4+ cells. If too many CD4+ cells are destroyed, the body can no longer defend itself against infection." (https://www.uofmhealth.org/health-library/hw151408)

He also thinks there will be a serious outbreak in the US (some time) and that we will be "on our own"(health care system can't handle an event like this one) and that there will be lock downs (government will be helpless).

This is all quite alarming.

Going to add this here about Cistus Incanus. Interesting that so many mediterranean herbs are antiviral

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[Hughe]

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Medical doctors, judges, and even members of the Communist party become rebellious against the present regime. It couldn’t be imagined in the past.
Guwon Gui, a Chinese millionaire who is under refugee status in US said China would have to admit that the coronavirus had been leaked at a P4 Biology Institute in Wuhan.
Also he said China’s financial system would collapse in near future.
The US knew China’s Wuhan virus was serious matter before the last Christmas.
The humanitarian crisis is continuing. Wuhan frontline doctors do not have masks and protective gears, so they make improvised masks out of bed sheets and available materials in the hospitals.

[eyeland]

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1177737.shtml

09:57 am Feb 2
Discharging medical sewage without first disinfecting it is forbidden; sewage treatment plants must strengthen disinfection efforts amid #coronavirus outbreak: Chinese authority.

09:47 am Feb 2
The #nCoV2019 is transmitable via vomit and feces: Chinese researchers.

09:06 am Feb 2
Bodies of nCoV2019 victims should be cremated close by and immediately. Burials or transfer of the bodies not allowed. Funerals not allowed to avoid spread of the virus: National Health Commission.

08:53 am Feb 2
Huanggang, a city bordering Wuhan, the center of the epidemic of nCoV, becomes the second city to have more than 1,000 people infected with the coronavirus.

[Delight]

This article was on Medium and was taken down....

Coronavirus Exposed, Part 1: Communist Coverup, or Pandemic Bioweapon of Mass Destruction?
(https://web.archive.org/web/20200131221906/https://medium.com/@siradrianbond/coronavirus-2019-ncov-part-1-d6a338eed7c5)

This is another medical person who is very thoroughly interpreting others' research

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more good advice

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Boxmining

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[silvanelf]

Another tragic event after pig pandemic, Wuhan coronavirus (Chicken flu):

https://www.businessinsider.com/bird-flu-china-coronavirus-pathogenic-strain-of-h5n1-highly-2020-2

https://www.rt.com/news/479871-china-bird-flu-coronavirus/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

These two headlines are:


A ‚highly pathogenic strain‘ of H5N1 bird flu has been reported in China’s Hunan province

Clucking hell! New outbreak of BIRD FLU sees thousands of chickens culled in coronavirus-stricken China


Too many coincidences ...

[bennycog]

Here is something to digest:

https://medium.com/@realAdrianBond/coronavirus-exposed-part-1-communist-coverup-or-pandemic-bioweapon-of-mass-destruction-229ad482c0d3

So basically the Location of "Wuhan Institute of Virology" was moved on Google Maps as the 2019-nCoV was introduced to the world. Let that sink in.

http://projectavalon.net/Wuhan_Biolab_Google_map.jpg

I should add. No Fear. Just be informed.

[Iloveyou]

People, I know, this will be a very unpopular post. The ‚energy‘ on this thread to me feels more and more like in the notorious tabloid papers. I get the impression everyone is looking for the worst predictions and possible scenarios, with a bit of potential paranoia mixed in. Almost no reliable facts are known. We don‘t know whether China is reporting correctly nor whether the MSM/alternative news in the West are manipulated into which direction, for which kind of outcome exactly, in this case. Considering the current geopolitical context (US/Nato-China-Russia) it could be anything.

I am absolutely grateful for the amount of information and opinions collected here. I think the way how they are presented is as important as the info itself, if not more. There‘s an underlying feeling of hysteria, which worries me greatly. The alternative media has become more and more compromised by panic mongering and playing on fears. That‘s a big disappointment. And think: the real big dangers and threats to humanity are not allowed to be discussed in the public. Everything that gets a lot of attention publicly is for the major part distraction and entertainment. That‘s my opinion, at least.

From the original Project Camelot interviews back then I‘ve always taken that whatever the deep state/black ops/hidden forces do, finally WE are in charge. We are responsible and the decisive element of how we create our world. I’m missing that.

What kind of I N F O R M A T I O N do we spread? I n f o r m a t i o n creates reality. Stay grounded, breathe, please!

[Mypos]

People, I know, this will be a very unpopular post. The ‚energy‘ on this thread to me feels more and more like in the notorious tabloid papers. I get the impression everyone is looking for the worst predictions and possible scenarios, with a bit of potential paranoia mixed in. Almost no reliable facts are known. We don‘t know whether China is reporting correctly nor whether the MSM/alternative news in the West are manipulated into which direction, for which kind of outcome exactly, in this case. Considering the current geopolitical context (US/Nato-China-Russia) it could be anything.

I am absolutely grateful for the amount of information and opinions collected here. I think the way how they are presented is as important as the info itself, if not more. There‘s an underlying feeling of hysteria, which worries me greatly. The alternative media has become more and more compromised by panic mongering and playing on fears. That‘s a big disappointment. And think: the real big dangers and threats to humanity are not allowed to be discussed in the public. Everything that gets a lot of attention publicly is for the major part distraction and entertainment. That‘s my opinion, at least.

From the original Project Camelot interviews back then I‘ve always taken that whatever the deep state/black ops/hidden forces do, finally WE are in charge. We are responsible and the decisive element of how we create our world. I’m missing that.

What kind of I N F O R M A T I O N do we spread? I n f o r m a t i o n creates reality. Stay grounded, breathe, please!

Totally agree with this post. Dont let yourself get sucked into the hysteria and fear about this or anything else. Thats just what THEY want. It feeds the negative powers. Try to trust in a good outcome of everything. Me myself im 100% convinced this is going to be fine, whatever happens and whatever my choices will be.

If there is anything i learned from spiritual teachings is to try and have trust in the future, trust that you get to see where youre path leads.

[Innocent Warrior]

Wow :facepalm: re Innocent Warrior's link to The Australian: well, that produced a paywall, and every other Australian newspaper too (I'd copied and pasted into Google a sentence from the article snip shared here.)

Blinking flip. So, Australian mainstream newspaper sources are impossible to access [from the UK without having to subscribe] as well now? Whatever next :facepalm:

:focus:

Sorry about that, it gave me a view before it asked for a subscription, but that might just be for Australians. HERE'S (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/virologist-heading-coronavirus-vaccine-efforts-warns-the-killer-disease-could-mutate-and-become-even-deadlier-as-qantas-jet-waits-on-standby-to-fly-stranded-australians-out-of-wuhan/ar-BBZw4eM?li=AAgfIYZ#image=3) an article containing similar information, it's an overview of the situation here in Australia. It's quite long so I'll just paste information about Dr Drew's warning here. You shouldn't have any problems accessing that link, but if you do and you'd like to read the full article just let me know and I'll add it in this post.

"The coronavirus outbreak could rapidly get worse and become even deadlier as it continues to spread worldwide, a leading Australian virologist has warned.

Professor Trevor Drew is the director of the CSRIO's Australian Animal Health Laboratory in regional Victoria, where fast-tracked efforts to develop a vaccine for the virus are now underway.

Professor Drew said previous research in pigs showed how coronavirus could become more lethal over time.

He told The Australian the contagion needs to be regarded as a 'cloud' of closely matched pathogens rather than one virus with the potential to become even deadlier in 'a 'high-host-density environment' such as China.

'You may well find that more virulent viruses emerge from that cloud,' Professor Drew told the publication.

'What I am thinking might be happening here is not that people have been infected for some time with this virus, but that it is finding a new niche rather more slowly and that could ultimately cause more of a problem than we have seen with other diseases because it is not so spectacular early on in its evolution.'

Professor Drew said Chinese authorities have recognised the outbreak could be worse than the SARS epidemic in 2003.

Professor Drew is leading the fast-tracked development of a coronavirus vaccine at the Australian Animal Health Laboratory, a high-containment facility in Geelong.

It is the only physical containment laboratory of its kind in Australia and one of five in the world.

Preclinical trials could be underway by March and a vaccine developed within four months.

'Our role is to take the knowledge that we will be gaining from how this virus behaves and then creating the biological platforms that are necessary for developing and trialling vaccine candidates,' CSIRO Director of Health and Biosecurity Rob Grenfell told reporters on Friday."

[Baby Steps]

This is a great point, I love you!

however part of our mission to facilitate that change - to a society not under the influence of the sinister aspects of big pharma, is to miss no opportunity to point at the nasty things that are being done. These companies are increasingly recognized by the mainstream to be duplicitous, exploitative and unethical. The wider this view spreads, the quicker the demise of a paradigm of medicine that does not heal, will occur, hopefully.


Earlier in this thread we saw reference to James Lyons Weiler's tentative conclusion that this particular virus has a sequence that has likely been inserted, NOT via any natural process. it was likely bio engineered.


https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/

Now we know that virus infection produces permanent genetic changes in the host. Viral DNA is incorporated into host DNA in a kind of editing process

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/03/how-we-repurposed-viruses-to-defend-ourselves-from-viruses/471702/

I do not think that they would use a disease to edit humanity's DNA, if they wanted to catch everybody. But the same sequence will be in the vaccine.

sorry for sounding like fear porn, but calling out evil is important

[Bill Ryan]

No Fear. Just be informed.Yes. :shielddeflect:As best we all can, that's what we try to do here.

What kind of I N F O R M A T I O N do we spread? I n f o r m a t i o n creates reality. Stay grounded, breathe, please!

And yes. :heart: It's all a balancing act.

When I'm hiking in the remote high mountains, I always take a little aluminum emergency space blanket with me. Just in case. I've had it for 20 years, and never even opened the package it's sealed in. But I still always take it.

And if the weather's bad, I stay at home. (Or, very occasionally, turn back if I've started out and realize I've made the wrong call that day.)

But I still always go out to these beautiful places. It's all a risk-management exercise, and all of life is the same. All of life is about making the best choices we can, based on the best information we can find.

Some people do that better than others. And sometimes, sheer bad luck plays a part in the game we're all playing. But that's all part of the fun and challenge and learning opportunity of being here together.

There's a near-certain coronavirus case in Ecuador, and the poor man has multiple organ failure and is close to death. But that's not yet been confirmed or announced. If it gets loose here in this developing country, the chances of containing it are zero. (Just like it would be in West Africa.)

On impulse, I looked online for face masks I could get delivered here from the US, and actually found some. There were only 7 packs left. (Buy now! it said.)

I decided not to, and to leave them for someone else who might be more worried, or living closer to an outbreak.

I had an email from someone yesterday, a simple message from a mother of three in the US with the subject "Scared". I replied, linking her to this thread — here, besides the occasional dramatic post, there's a lot of GOOD information from informed sources — and also the Flu Treatment and Prevention (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Flu-Treatment-and-Prevention) thread. That may become more important and valuable than this one.

Avalon's mission has always been to balance all the "bad news" information that Project Camelot published. (I used to joke: "You thought it was bad, but wait till you hear THIS." :) ) Avalon's basic mission, distinct from Camelot's, was to try to answer the question: "Okay, so what can we DO about all this?"

And so the forum became to a large extent about self-help, empowerment, and spiritual growth. But of course, we also have to offer good contextual information if we can... like the weather forecast for a planned day in the mountains. Just hoping for the best doesn't always cut it. :flower:

:focus:

[pyrangello]

Perfectly stated Bill. Anytime anything happens in the world , project Avalon Is one of the first places I go to. Lots of knowledgeable people here from all around the world , making every situation easier to understand what's really happening and how to deal with it.


That being said I was over my buddy's last night who was born in China, he and his wife. They have been here 30 years and are American citizens now. HE is in contact with all his briother,sisters and parents in China within a few buttons on his phone thru text or videos. HE told me none of his family is sick and all is well. Was very glad to hear that.

[Innocent Warrior]

I don't have anything more to contribute for now but wanted to give thanks to all the members posting information here, very much appreciated! :heart:

I admit, I must have been feeling pretty anxious because I was so relieved when I read the news about the borders (it's challenging enough to trace even small numbers of cases after this much time, and I'm Zen compared to many others in South Brisbane). I've shifted from reading the news and social media to just checking government announcements and reading this thread because I've found it to be balanced and measured in it's energy and it's wonderful to have all the information gathered in one thread. All about perspective I suppose because I've found the stay calm posts to be more emotionally charged in comparison to the informative posts.

It's intelligent and healthy to stay informed, it would be too late to respond effectively as a parent if I were to wait until we know for certain what this novel virus is, however, I do appreciate the reminders about staying calm.

With the information that's available so far, I'm not feeling it, but I do hope for everyone, especially for the beautiful citizens of China, that the case turns out to be that Ernie can come back with, "I told you so!"

Take care all. xo

[TomKat]

Twitter account of ZeroHedge was permanently suspended for suggesting a scientist at Wuhan Virology should be questioned about the origin of the virus. Makes me wonder if this scientist is some kind of intelligence asset. You can be arrested for revealing the identity of a CIA agent. If he isn't an asset or agent, why the sensitivity over the revealing of information available publicly on the company's website?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/other/zero-hedge-permanently-suspended-from-twitter-for-e2-80-98harassment-e2-80-99/ar-BBZxpLs

[Sarah Rainsong]

This is my take away so far....I DON'T KNOW IF This is a wolf.

Agreed! I don't know where this is going, but I do know that I can be prepared.

The best thing IMO we can ALL do now is consider locating outside a major population center ASAP. It looks like cities are not the best place for healthy people anyway. There are many reasons to live in a smaller community but IMO the cards are showing that for lots of reasons we will be better off into the future outside urban/suburban areas.

Learning I have consolidated in the last week is

1. Practice NOT moving my hands above my shoulders unless I have deliberate reasons like brush my hair and teeth etc... and after hand washing.

2. Be aware of touching surfaces and use bleach to wipe down fomites.

3. Talk to others about what I know about viruses and spread awareness versus hysteria.

4. Don't go around hugging and shaking hands (is it time to do the Bowing greeting?)

5. Stock up on the supplements (Thanks for all the suggestions)

6. Plan to have a bigger garden this spring.

7. Think about how to completely isolate if needed.

8. NEVER EVER EVER get a vaccine.

Good things to keep in mind always.

Questions I have are about the usefulness of masks (maybe they have too great a porosity?

That's a good question. I have some on hand, but I plan on saving them for times when they're most necessary, like if you have to be on an airplane or in a clinic or something.



No Fear. Just be informed.Yes. :shielddeflect:As best we all can, that's what we try to do here.

What kind of I N F O R M A T I O N do we spread? I n f o r m a t i o n creates reality. Stay grounded, breathe, please!

And yes. :heart: It's all a balancing act.

Agreed!

When I'm hiking in the remote high mountains, I always take a little aluminum emergency space blanket with me. Just in case. I've had it for 20 years, and never even opened the package it's sealed in. But I still always take it.

And if the weather's bad, I stay at home. (Or, very occasionally, turn back if I've started out and realize I've made the wrong call that day.)

But I still always go out to these beautiful places. It's all a risk-management exercise, and all of life is the same. All of life is about making the best choices we can, based on the best information we can find.

Some people do that better than others. And sometimes, sheer bad luck plays a part in the game we're all playing. But that's all part of the fun and challenge and learning opportunity of being here together.

So true! What a great illustration, thank you!

There's a near-certain coronavirus case in Ecuador, and the poor man has multiple organ failure and is close to death. But that's not yet been confirmed or announced. If it gets loose here in this developing country, the chances of containing it are zero. (Just like it would be in West Africa.)

On impulse, I looked online for face masks I could get delivered here from the US, and actually found some. There were only 7 packs left. (Buy now! it said.)

I decided not to, and to leave them for someone else who might be more worried, or living closer to an outbreak.

I had an email from someone yesterday, a simple message from a mother of three in the US with the subject "Scared". I replied, linking her to this thread — here, besides the occasional dramatic post, there's a lot of GOOD information from informed sources — and also the Flu Treatment and Prevention (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Flu-Treatment-and-Prevention) thread. That may become more important and valuable than this one.

Oh my, my heart broke a little when I read that. Being a young parent right now is TERRIFYING. There is so much misinformation and outright lies it's hard to know what to do, but you have a little life that's all dependent on you.

It does gets easier the more you do it, the older your kids get, and more you learn to trust your own instincts. I strongly believe that meditation is MUST for any parent... well, everyone, really, but parents with children still at home especially.

Avalon's mission has always been to balance all the "bad news" information that Project Camelot published. (I used to joke: "You thought it was bad, but wait till you hear THIS." :) ) Avalon's basic mission, distinct from Camelot's, was to try to answer the question: "Okay, so what can we DO about all this?"

And so the forum became to a large extent about self-help, empowerment, and spiritual growth. But of course, we also have to offer good contextual information if we can... like the weather forecast for a planned day in the mountains. Just hoping for the best doesn't always cut it. :flower:

:focus:

I love Avalon because of exactly this!!!

[Bill Ryan]

Twitter account of ZeroHedge was permanently suspended for suggesting a scientist at Wuhan Virology should be questioned about the origin of the virus. Makes me wonder if this scientist is some kind of intelligence asset. You can be arrested for revealing the identity of a CIA agent. If he isn't an asset or agent, why the sensitivity over the revealing of information available publicly on the company's website?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/other/zero-hedge-permanently-suspended-from-twitter-for-e2-80-98harassment-e2-80-99/ar-BBZxpLs

Here's the published medical article. It's basically saying [in simple lay terms] that somehow, the HIV "delivery system" has found its way into the Wuhan coronavirus.

https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

Boxmining

aupTjDOgjUcVery good, thanks. I'd been unaware of him (his name is Michael Gu), and he's clearly a good guy. I'll definitely follow him daily right now. Here's his site:


https://boxmining.com/outbreak

[Delight]

People, I know, this will be a very unpopular post. The ‚energy‘ on this thread to me feels more and more like in the notorious tabloid papers. I get the impression everyone is looking for the worst predictions and possible scenarios, with a bit of potential paranoia mixed in. Almost no reliable facts are known. We don‘t know whether China is reporting correctly nor whether the MSM/alternative news in the West are manipulated into which direction, for which kind of outcome exactly, in this case. Considering the current geopolitical context (US/Nato-China-Russia) it could be anything.

I am absolutely grateful for the amount of information and opinions collected here. I think the way how they are presented is as important as the info itself, if not more. There‘s an underlying feeling of hysteria, which worries me greatly. The alternative media has become more and more compromised by panic mongering and playing on fears. That‘s a big disappointment. And think: the real big dangers and threats to humanity are not allowed to be discussed in the public. Everything that gets a lot of attention publicly is for the major part distraction and entertainment. That‘s my opinion, at least.

From the original Project Camelot interviews back then I‘ve always taken that whatever the deep state/black ops/hidden forces do, finally WE are in charge. We are responsible and the decisive element of how we create our world. I’m missing that.

What kind of I N F O R M A T I O N do we spread? I n f o r m a t i o n creates reality. Stay grounded, breathe, please!

I think the energy here isn't tabloid. My personal quest is to understand and master reality manifestation. In my daily life, I realize how well I have managed to create a satisfying experience. Seriously, I do not understand yet how this collective experience is managed. It would never be my intention to deliberately harm others and WAR makes no sense. Greed makes no sense. Withholding vital information in order to maintain control makes no sense. Hierarchies, racism, castes systems, authoritarianism make no sense....

BUT I SEE THEM? It is seriously a daily WTF question about why these absolutely expired paradigms (all based on fear) still are managing the collective view?

The major issue I am standing up to shout down is the way secrecy is valued. I see in this episode the willingness to sacrifice a whole city, state, country, world to "save face". I see people in Frankenstein Suits creating opportunities to destroy the life and health of a future generation for fear and greed. Avarice and POWER and PRESTIGE have no place in my New World.

SO< the kind of information I see being posted is meaningful to me here because

1. It asserts that we have the RIGHT and responsibility to learn and dessimintate information transparently.
2. This may bring down the paradigms of WAR/
3. We can take charge of our persoanal space.
4. IMO we deserve to QUESTION any collective event and we WILL attempt to unravel the lies.

In the big context, I am aware that this life is an absolute wink of the eye. I am certain LIFE is eternal and don't fear the thought. HOWEVER, I am not at all thinking after I leave the experience it blinks out (like a TV set turned off).

MY OPINION is that we are as responsible to the future as "could be" and MUST insert into the present those values we love. I LOVE FREEDOM and I INTEND that all the systems of coercion and psychopathic disregard be dssolved by a flood of love for life and truth.

Getting off the thread is a really good idea though and clean the house. Blessings!

Innocent Warrior posted this from Australia


Professor Drew said Chinese authorities have recognised the outbreak could be worse than the SARS epidemic in 2003.

Professor Drew is leading the fast-tracked development of a coronavirus vaccine at the Australian Animal Health Laboratory, a high-containment facility in Geelong.

It is the only physical containment laboratory of its kind in Australia and one of five in the world.

Preclinical trials could be underway by March and a vaccine developed within four months.

'Our role is to take the knowledge that we will be gaining from how this virus behaves and then creating the biological platforms that are necessary for developing and trialling vaccine candidates,' CSIRO Director of Health and Biosecurity Rob Grenfell told reporters on Friday."

I am going to say NONONONONONO to vaccination because to me the cutting edge is seeking an organic timeline of OUR 3D SUPER NATURAL manifestation. We have an innately powerful body with NO NEED for augmentation, no DEFECTS in its design.

OUR volition, and conscious relationship is the pathway to more degrees of physical freedom? IMO vaccination is the action MOST antithetical to an INTENTION of Sovereign individual power. It says... I am a victim of circumstance and must depend on some other method to live.

[thepainterdoug]

The British are coming! The British are coming! and guess what, they did.

Id rather err on the side of caution. So I appreciate everyones input here. If it all turns out to be a more minimal event with little consequence, then fine, all the better. Its not like anyone is advocating spending lots of money on cures. I wrote down Bill Ryans protocol and a few other suggestions, and all is a small amount of money .

But if they are burning bodies and this has an HIV component with a 2 week incubation period and airborne , than going to be very hard to stop. So best to be aware and have good immune system and sanitary habits

A prayer for all and lets hope this gets put in the dust bin of sensational news events soon.

[silvanelf]

Twitter account of ZeroHedge was permanently suspended for suggesting a scientist at Wuhan Virology should be questioned about the origin of the virus. Makes me wonder if this scientist is some kind of intelligence asset. You can be arrested for revealing the identity of a CIA agent. If he isn't an asset or agent, why the sensitivity over the revealing of information available publicly on the company's website?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/other/zero-hedge-permanently-suspended-from-twitter-for-e2-80-98harassment-e2-80-99/ar-BBZxpLs

Some people don't get it. That's not "revealing of information" because the info was publicly available anyway -- it's a personal defamation.



A Pro-Trump Blog Doxed A Chinese Scientist It Falsely Accused Of Creating The Coronavirus As A Bioweapon

The scientist's name, photo, email, and a telephone number are being spread across American social media.

A popular pro-Trump website has released the personal information of a scientist from Wuhan, China, falsely accusing them of creating the coronavirus as a bioweapon, in a plot it said is the real-life version of the video game Resident Evil.

On Wednesday, far-right news site Zero Hedge claimed without evidence that a scientist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology created the strain of the virus that has led the World Health Organization to declare a global health emergency.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/a-pro-trump-blog-has-doxed-a-chinese-scientist-it-falsely

It gets even worse:


The rumors and lies about the Wuhan Institute of Virology dovetail with a popular meme about how the institute’s logo is similar to that of the Umbrella Corporation, the shady agency responsible for making the virus that starts the zombie apocalypse in the Resident Evil video game franchise. The logo that inspired the meme isn’t actually from Wuhan Institute of Virology, but actually belongs to Shanghai Ruilan Bao Hu San Biotech Limited, located in Shanghai, 500 miles away.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/a-pro-trump-blog-has-doxed-a-chinese-scientist-it-falsely

[TomKat]

There have been several social media references to the 2011 Matt Damon film Contagion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(2011_film)). I saw it years ago, but didn't enjoy it quite as much as the 1995 Dustin Hoffman film Outbreak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreak_(film)).

So I thought it might be instructive to watch Contagion again, and I've just started in. OMG. Not an exact match, of course (the virus in the movie has a higher fatality rate) but there's a whole bunch of parallels.

Here it is: the download is available for 7 days.


https://we.tl/t-veA1zUlR25 (AVI, 700 Mb)
https://we.tl/t-o6Qols18Cv (MP4, 653 Mb, plus subtitle file)


This star-studded movie has no sound track and is delivered in a deadpan, documentary style. I wonder if its main intent was propaganda.

[silvanelf]

More Chinese are believing they are suffering from a bioweapon attack, though I believe they are still a small minority. Articles like this is circulating in the social medias. This one is machine translated except for the highlighted important parts which is translated by me.


Forwarding: There is one not been refuted. No one has refuted the rumor in the biochemical test (gene strategy) in the United States! I am extremely afraid that the World Military Games will be held in Wuhan from October 18 to October 27, 2019, with 369 US soldiers participating. Before that, the United States had already tightened its visa for going to the United States. Judging from the longest incubation period of the virus, the first pneumonia patient was found on December 3. Pushed backward by one month, it is November 3. The patient was delayed in several hospitals for several days. The virus was transmitted to people on October,30, around the conclusion of the military games.

Judging from the current epidemic, the first batch of patients are concentrated in the vicinity of the Seafood City, which is located in the urban area and is not far from the US hotels of the Military Games.

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Very interesting! This article is in line with other scientific publications:


the Wuhan seafood market was not the origin of the virus --
[I]"The virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace,” (Lucey)
the first human infection took place approximately between Oct. 30, 2019, and Nov. 29



DNA sleuths read the coronavirus genome, tracing its origins and looking for dangerous mutations

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Given what’s known about the pace at which viral genomes mutate, if nCoV had been circulating in humans since significantly before the first case was reported on Dec. 8, the 24 genomes would differ more. Applying ballpark rates of viral evolution, Rambaut estimates that the Adam (or Eve) virus from which all others are descended first appeared no earlier than Oct. 30, 2019, and no later than Nov. 29.

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https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/24/dna-sleuths-read-coronavirus-genome-tracing-origins-and-mutations/


FYI: Daniel Lucey is an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University.


Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally

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Lucey says if the new data are accurate, the first human infections must have occurred in November 2019—if not earlier—because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing. If so, the virus possibly spread silently between people in Wuhan—and perhaps elsewhere—before the cluster of cases from the city’s now-infamous Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market was discovered in late December. “The virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace,” Lucey asserts.

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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally

See also: UPDATE Wuhan coronavirus – 2019-nCoV Q&A #6: An evidence-based hypothesis (https://sciencespeaksblog.org/2020/01/25/wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov-qa-6-an-evidence-based-hypothesis/)

[Delight]

I have not heard this yet but I always must hear David Icke's take...

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Definitely hygiene practices, state of nutrition, underlying immune competence and POPULATION DENSITY are all significant factors in morbidity and mortality. Also emotional state, belief, and general state of mind are extremely important.

The people dying ARE having cytokine storm symptoms (underlying inflammatory state of the body) and most seem to be older (with other underlying health issues).

People STILL IMO need to look at how we MUST respond ourselves to the whole ENCHILADA, government control, viral illness and our approach to "health" offerings in general. This nurse has sensible comments here:

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[eyeland]

When looking for face masks, there are lots of non-medical industries that use them all the time. You could order them here:
https://www.riogrande.com/searchresults#q=n95mask/
I do wonder about eye protection though? I read that the virus can enter your body through the eyes but in the photos I've seen from China, nobody is wearing protective goggles.

[Delight]

It really is true IMO (but not just me)that when we turn from knowing that we are individual expressions of GOD (as one understands GOD) with free will, right to choose, responsibility to express innate GOD essence... all hell breaks loose.

If this individual power was not THE MOST POTENT aspect of humans, there would NOT have been an effort from historic beginnings to subvert this power. The authority to RULE is given to the rulers by us either by our consent or by our broken submission.

Maybe maybe maybe this is all happening now so we will just realize that we have no more willingness to give the power WE GIVE to the manipulators. Therefore this is all to the good.

I wll celebrate the return of AH HA... I am the SOURCE.


Jon Rappaport (nomorefakenews.com)Exit From The Matrix: Free Individual vs. Deep State
The people who run society are engaged in bringing systems and structures into interlocking alignment, in order to create larger and larger machines of control.

I keep returning to this territory, because the whole thrust of modern civilization is making the individual extinct.

Powerless, badly educated, adrift in technology, viewed as a unit tied to a massive collective---this is the picture of the individual.

Let's go back to square one. The individual is fundamentally at odds with the State. The State wants control. The State wants loyalists, adherents, joiners, conformists. The individual wants freedom, if he has any inkling of his own power.

The basic makeup of the State is promoted as a We. We want this. We need this. We deserve this. We all agree on this. The ubiquitous We is floated on purpose. The aim is to eradicate the I. The individual.

The State wants all arguments to center on what We should get. Should We be given this or that? Should We have A or B? What is best for We?

This is where all the trouble starts.

The State is not going to solve that trouble because it is creating it.

On the other hand, the individual who is free knows what he wants. Or can discover it. Sooner or later, he realizes that most of the people around him aren't free. Those people have embedded themselves so deeply in We that they can't see outside it. The very idea of being free is meaningless to them.

So be it.

Ultimately, when all the bets are in, when all the chips are laid down on the table, the State's game is all about We. That's how the game is rigged.

The individual is ruled out.

The roulette wheel spins, but it doesn't matter which slot the ball falls into. No slot is labeled "individual."

And I'm not just talking about the State. Any large organization works in the same way.

So the free individual has to take his future in his own hands.

First, he has to conceive that he does have a future apart from We.

Then he has to imagine what that future could look like. He has to invent the future he wants.

What's called "the spiritual" is not independent from what I'm talking about here. How the free individual imagines his future and then goes after inventing it is very much a spiritual exploration. Why? Because the individual is more than a bio-machine. Knowing that, he conceives of a future which is more than lowest-common-denominator physical needs.

In my collection, Exit From The Matrix, I include dozens of imagination exercises and techniques I developed, based on a study of ancient Tibet, and my work with hypnotherapist Jack True. The whole purpose of those exercises is: the individual returns to himself and his power.

Not the We. The I.

The entire planet is turning into a cult, which I call: "What Already Exists." As opposed to the individual inventing what he most profoundly wants to exist.

What Already Exists is mostly structures and systems. To the degree a person feels his life should be lived inside a structure, he is going to refrain from imagining the future he truly wants.

In fact, the whole notion of "truly wants" is going to shrink and vanish from his mind.

But that notion is the key.

The key to his freedom and creative power.

[Delight]

In order to understand the knowledge base concerning epidemiology, this is a great source

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Just FYI about approach to quarantine from Chicago entry of American and his family who were in China (not Wuhan) and came into USA because of coronavirus TOO EASY on 2/1/2020.

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A citizen journalist who was arrested after uploading this video was released because of pressure from viral sharing of the video.

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[Hughe]

http://www.whentechfails.com/when-a-super-bug-strikes-close-to-home-how-can-you-deal-with-it/


The good news is that there are many alternative medicines, herbs, and treatments that can be quite effective in the fight against a wide variety of viruses and antibiotic-resistant bacteria, to which mainstream high-tech Western medicine has little or nothing to offer. The bad news is that 99 percent of the doctors in our hospitals are not trained in these alternatives, and don’t have a clue about what to do when their pharmaceutical high-tech medicines fail to heal. If you wait until a pandemic starts, you will have only a slim chance for locating an available health practitioner familiar with alternative herbs, medicines, and methods. In the words of Robert Saum, Ph D, the typical attitude amongst most of his medical colleagues in this country is, “If I didn’t learn it in medical school, it can’t be true.”

During Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, which killed up to 50 million people worldwide, homeopathic physicians in the U.S. reported very low mortality rates among their patients, while flu patients treated by conventional physicians faced mortality rates of around 30 percent. W. A. Dewey, M.D., gathered data from homeopathic physicians treating flu patients around the country in 1918 and published his findings in the Journal of the American Institute of Homeopathy in 1920. Homeopathic physicians in Philadelphia, for example, reported a mortality rate of just over one percent for the more than 26,000 flu patients they treated during the pandemic. Today, a number of homeopathic remedies for the flu are available, including oscillo, or oscillococcinum, which has been shown to shorten the duration of symptoms when taken within 48 hours of onset. Homeopaths have been given this remedy since 1925. Interestingly, it’s made from the heart and liver of ducks, which carry flu viruses in their digestive tracts.

[angelfire]

I'm getting a strong feeling that Coronavirus is somehow linked to 5G and EMF's. I remember reading somewhere last year that the frequencies are linked to Vitamin D depletion which is essential for a healthy immune system. This article was sent by a friend today:


http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness/?fbclid=IwAR0KMKOUSK2Uhn-2AGPPt18vj_OsID4AfTM8A0owhEkArQPniiSRu5mxuRc


Is The “Coronavirus” Actually Microwave Illness?
January 31, 2020 admin 9 Comments
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Note – this article is a work-in-progress. As new information comes to my attention, I will add it to the article if appropriate.
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Dear friends – alot of information has been circulating around the internet regarding the alleged “coronavirus” in China. Alarmist headlines abound such as this one from Alex Jones’ Infowars:


“Computer Models Show 183 Million Infected by Coronavirus February 29”


and this one from Mike Adams of Natural News:


“Over the Last 7 Days, Coronavirus Infections Have Increased 1000%”


Top names in the health movement are scrambling to write articles about what we need to do to protect ourselves from this impending, life-threatening “virus” (see here and here). And, right on queue, the World Health Organization has declared a “Global Coronavirus Pandemic” (see also here).
All of this has occurred in just a matter of days.
Based on the speed with which this terrible “virus” seems to be “spreading” around the globe, it appears that now would be an excellent time to take a few steps back to see if we can determine what in the world is actually going on here.
No doubt, the dark ones are gearing up to introduce yet another allegedly “life-saving” vaccine, and no doubt they are rubbing their hands together imagining that this “viral pandemic” will be the one that will finally enable them to mandate vaccines around the globe.
In fact, this article just came out today (Jan 31, 2020) alerting us to the fact that “vaccine trials” for this “virus” are scheduled to begin in the U.S. in three months. Miraculously the CDC already has diagnostic tests for this and “will start shipping out test kits to state and local public health partners in the coming days.”
Interestingly, the photo that appears at the top of the article speaks volumes about what might actually be going on.


Notice how all of these people have their faces in their phones. These people believe their masks are going to protect them. Yet, in Truth, their radiation-emitting devices may be the very cause of the problem. Are the media subtly trying to tell us this?
In any event, I strongly suspect that what might actually be occurring in China has nothing to do with any “virus” at all, but rather, is related to radiation-induced illness being brought on by the 5G rollout now being streamlined in Wuhan (see here and here) and other parts of China.
The mainstream media and the powers-that-shouldn’t-be will never tell us the Truth about this. Instead, they will babble on about “viruses” and present us with bogus ideas about so-called “climate change” so that nobody will ever suspect that the warming of our planet is likely due to radiation heat from increased cell tower density and wireless devices (after all, microwaves do COOK things), or that any epidemics we experience over the next 5-15 years are going to be related to radiation poisoning from exposure to increasing densities of noxious, non-ionizing radiation.
So let’s begin at the beginning. But first, here’s a comment I recently made on a youtube video that is being censored…


Since 5G frequencies are known to negatively effect the absorption of oxygen in the cells and the body (see here and here);

and since all of the symptoms they are reporting are also listed as the very same symptoms associated with “microwave sickness” (i.e., radiation illness which can be induced from exposure to all wireless devices, including 4G devices — see here http://www.radiationdangers.com/microwave-sickness/);

and since “the flu” and microwave illness share many of the same symptoms (see here: http://www.radiationdangers.com/microwave-sickness/the-flu-and-microwave-sickness-share-many-of-the-same-symptoms/);

and since “the flu” has been shown to NOT be the result of a “virus” but rather an electrically-induced disease (see Arthur Firstenberg’s book, “The Invisible Rainbow”);

it is a fair estimation to assume that wherever 5G is being rolled out, people are going to rapidly become deathly ill. Wake up people. The entire wireless grid is designed to destroy us. They will blame these radiation-induced illnesses on a variety of things, but one thing they will not do is tell you that your devices and your entire wireless society are the problem. You have to figure this out on your own.

Please see my book for much more information about this: https://www.birthofanewearth.com/1/paperback-release-the-dark-side-of-prenatal-ultrasound/

People wearing masks is obviously not going to protect them from radiation-induced illnesses. Avoidance of radiation and/or radiation-shielded clothing are the only things that work.



1. 5G IS ACTIVELY BEING DEPLOYED IN WUHAN.
“WUHAN — Central China’s Hubei province has built more than 300 5G base stations and achieved full 5G signal coverage in its prefecture-level cities, local telecom sources said.

The China Mobile’s Hubei branch said more than 300 5G base stations have been built since February 2018, and a dozen 5G experience centers have been completed in cities including Xiaogan, Yichang and Jingmen.”
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“So far, China Mobile has installed 100 5G base stations in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei, and is launching large-scale tests, according to Fan Bingheng, general manager of the company’s Hubei branch.”
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2. 5G FREQUENCIES ARE KNOWN TO CAUSE SEVERE DISRUPTIONS IN THE BODY’S ABILITY TO ABSORB AND UTILIZE OXYGEN.
“The FCC has opened up the millimeter wave band and they’re going to be broadcasting at 60 GHz… for the new 5G and the new Wifi. It’s called wi-gig… This stuff is wicked. 60GHz is the oxygen molecule absorption spectrum… This is the frequency that the oxygen molecules start reacting to… They’re gonna be using 5G to mess with oxygen… When you hit oxygen molecules with 60GHz millimeter emissions, it effects the orbital properties of the electrons… [This will affect] how oxygen is absorbed into your body… When you start effecting the oxygen molecules’ ability to bind with the hemoglobin in the blood, you can’t transport the oxygen into your tissues… It also effects your ability to produce Vitamin D. There are two locations in the United States where this was rolled out in schools. It produced paralysis, arrhythmia, neurological problems, problems with tingling in the extremities, people passing out, people having fatigue, malaise, all these bizarre ailments. These people have managed to get you to kill yourselves, and enjoy it, and kill your children, and pay for it.”
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“60 GHz… gets stuck in air. It doesn’t travel well at all. So it’s a bit bizarre that Ofcom [Office of Communications in the UK] are going to give [that part of the spectrum] away… If I was to blast enough 60 GHz amplitude into an oxygen molecule, I might break it. And that oxygen atom will attach with other oxygen molecules and create 03. 03 kills. At 50ppm, it will kill all biological life. So it’s a bit bizarre that Ofcom would even want anyone to use this part of the spectrum—nevermind giving it away.”
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3. THE “CORONAVIRUS” IS CLAIMED TO PRODUCE “ATYPICAL PNEUMONIA” AND SEVERE RESPIRATORY DISTRESS THAT HAS LED TO DEATH.
“It started with a light cough. He burped constantly, and complained of shortness of breath… The doctor said he seemed to have heart problems and suggested him to stay in the hospital. He appeared healthy except for a minor infection in one lung area. Two weeks later, he was dead, with both lungs infected and organ failure. His doctors at the Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital determined the cause of death as “unknown pneumonia.” It was days before Chinese health authorities identified the cause of the new viral pneumonia as 2019-nCoV, a coronavirus that first emerged in December in the commercial city of Wuhan, his home city.”
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“Coronaviruses are types of viruses that typically affect the respiratory tract of mammals, including humans. They are associated with the common cold, pneumonia, and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and can also affect the gut.”
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4. RADIATION-EMITTING FREQUENCIES IN THE MICROWAVE AND MILLIMETER RANGE (3G, 4G, and 5G) CAN ALSO CAUSE SEVERE RESPIRATORY DISTRESS.
“In the first study of its kind, scientists strapped magnetic field monitors on pregnant women to determine their level of exposure, and studied whether it was associated with the risk of asthma in their children. They found that children born to women with the highest levels of exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMF) — including from microwaves, hair dryers and power lines — had a more than three-fold higher rate of asthma compared to those whose moms had the lowest exposure.”
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“The irradiation inhibited the oxygen consumption rate by the mitochondria… and slowed down the rate of respiration upon exhaustion of the ATP.”
Source: N.P. Zalyubovskaya, Biological Effect of Millimeter Radiowaves, Kiev, Vrachebnoye Delo, in Russian, 1977, No. 3: 116-199.

5. THE MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT HAS KNOWN FOR DECADES THAT EXPOSURE TO THEIR SO-CALLED “RADIATION TREATMENTS” CAN LEAD TO PNEUMONIA.
“Radiation pneumonitis is the acute manifestation of radiation-induced lung disease… Symptoms typically include:

cough
dyspnea (exertional or at rest)
low-grade fever
chest discomfort
pleuritic pain”
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6. EXPOSURE TO MICROWAVES CAN ALSO LEAD TO VARIOUS FORMS OF LUNG DISEASE AND PNEUMONIA. SYMPTOMS OF “MICROWAVE ILLNESS” – A CONDITION FIRST DESCRIBED BY THE RUSSIANS IN THE 1970’s – INCLUDE ASTHMA, BRONCHITIS, PNEUMONIA, INFLAMED SINUSES, ETC. SEE HERE FOR MORE INFO.





7. THE “FLU” AND MICROWAVE ILLNESS SHARE MANY OF THE SAME SYMPTOMS.
As someone who has experienced symptoms of microwave illness first hand (thanks to the installation of a wireless solar system on my home and the simultaneous placement of an “opt‑out” digital smart meter which has since been removed), I can confirm that the above-mentioned symptoms can come on fast and furious and bring a person close to death before a person even realizes what has hit him or her. Within a year of having the solar wifi module and digital “opt-out” smart meter put on our house, one family member developed severe skin rashes, hair loss, chronic mouth ulcers, and twice went into respiratory failure. Another family member suffered from rapid onset memory loss, balance problems, chronic leg and muscle cramps, olfactory changes including loss of taste and smell, and thyroid cancer. I, myself, suffered from “tinnitus,” insomnia, abnormal heart function, chronic dizziness and nausea, vision problems, hearing problems, temporary loss of smell and taste, intense headaches, sharp pains and pressure in my head, joint and muscle pain, muscle spasms, feelings of extreme weakness and fatigue that made me feel like I was close to death, and repeated, severe bouts with “the flu.”
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8. IN HIS BOOK, “THE INVISIBLE RAINBOW“, ARTHUR FIRSTENBERG ASSERTS THAT THE FLU IS NOT A VIRAL ILLNESS AT ALL, BUT RATHER AN ELECTRICALLY-INDUCED DISEASE!
“Influenza, in its present form, was invented in 1889, along with alternating current. It is with us always, like a familiar guest—so familiar that we have forgotten that it wasn’t always so. Many of the doctors who were flooded with the disease in 1889 had never seen a case before.”
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“The Germans were getting ready to announce—and they were on the verge of proving—that viruses have been misdescribed and they are actually electromagnetic in nature… A virus may be better described as an electromagnetic vampire sucking on your energy.”
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9. THE ENTIRE WIRELESS GRID IS PART OF A WELL-DESIGNED WEAPONS SYSTEM WHOSE TRUE PURPOSE IS TO DESTROY US!
“Microwave weapons, by stimulating the peripheral nervous system, can heat up the body, induce epileptic-like seizures, or cause cardiac arrest. Low-frequency radiation affects the electrical activity of the brain and can cause flu-like symptoms and nausea.”
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“They’re going to kill people…by giving them flu-like symptoms [that will] cause fluid in their lungs and pneumonia… Then it’s going to cause the body to begin going into convulsions and then heart palpitations. And then the heart is just going to give out.”
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IT’S WAKEY WAKEY TIME PEOPLE! WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WUHAN IS VERY LIKELY A RESPONSE TO RADIATION EXPOSURE! BUT THE MEDIA AND MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT WILL LIE ABOUT THIS, CLAIMING IT IS DUE TO A VIRUS AND THAT IT CAN BE PREVENTED BY ONE OF THEIR NEUROTOXIC VACCINES.


DO NOT GET ANY VACCINES!




INSTEAD, GET RID OF ALL WIRELESS DEVICES AND REPLACE THEM WITH WIRED DEVICES, GET RADIATION SHIELDING FOR YOUR HOME, PURCHASE RADIATION SHIELDED CLOTHING, AND DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FROM EXPOSURE TO WIRELESS AND ULTRASONIC IRRADIATION.
THE MORE PEOPLE THAT BECOME AWARE OF THIS, THE QUICKER WE CAN EXPOSE MEDIA AND MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT LIES.
The medical establishment continues its ruse, promoting its highly toxic,[i] [ii] extremely dangerous,[iii] [iv] and completely useless,[v] [vi] flu vaccines, yet somehow neglects to mention that the illnesses most people are suffering from have nothing to do with influenza at all, but rather are symptoms of microwave radiation poisoning.[vii]
Source

[i] Gary Null PhD and Richard Gale, The Toxic Science of Flu Vaccines, GreenMedInfo.com, Nov 2, 2016. http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/toxic-science-flu-vaccines

[ii] W. Myers, Flu Vaccines are Toxic, MyersDetox.com, https://myersdetox.com/flu-vaccines-are-toxic/

[iii] Brian Shilhavy, Get Your Flu Shot? DOJ Report From Vaccine Court Reveals Flu Shot is Most Dangerous Vaccine in U.S., HealthImpactNews.com, Sep 7, 2018. http://healthimpactnews.com/2018/get-your-flu-shot-doj-report-from-vaccine-court-reveals-flu-shot-is-most-dangerous-vaccine-in-u-s/

[iv] Paul Fassa, If You Know Anyone Considering a Flu Shot This Year, Show Them This, RealFarmacy.com. https://realfarmacy.com/ditch-flu-shot-instead/

[v] C. Del Mar and P. Collingnon, The Flu Vaccine Is Up To 99 Per Cent Ineffective, LifeHacker.com, Jun 8. 2018. https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2018/06/the-flu-vaccine-is-99-per-cent-ineffective/

[vi] Mike Stobbe, Flu vaccine ineffective for people 65 and older last winter, DenverPost.com, Jun 21, 2017 https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/21/flu-vaccine-elderly-ineffective/

[vii] Arthur Firstenberg, Transcript ~ The Hidden Dangers Of Wireless & CellPhone Radiation ~ Audio Interview ~ Part 2, https://multerland.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/2-the-hidden-dangers-of-wireless-and-cell-phone-radiation.pdf. Video: 2/4 ~ The Hidden Dangers of Wireless & Cell Phone Radiation ~ Arthur Firstenberg ~ English subtitles, Multerland Youtube channel, Feb 3, 2019, https://youtu.be/yqxQZZM1K7I





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[DeDukshyn]

When looking for face masks, there are lots of non-medical industries that use them all the time. You could order them here:
https://www.riogrande.com/searchresults#q=n95mask/
I do wonder about eye protection though? I read that the virus can enter your body through the eyes but in the photos I've seen from China, nobody is wearing protective goggles.

Eyes can receive microbes just as easily as lungs and nasal passages. People just generally don't think about it that much.

The masks are useless at protecting you to be completely honest - they are best used on the sick people to help keep them from spreading it.

[Ascension]

Good news from Ecuador...the potential case was negative.

https://cuencahighlife.com/coronavirus-ruled-out-in-cuenca-case/

The article states that the hospital never said it was a suspected case and that the media picked it up as one anyway.

Odd how the media seems to imply that all you have to is think about Wuhan and you catch it (obvious exaggeration), and yet there is not a single case in Africa or South America.

[Tomkoyote]

I'm getting a strong feeling that Coronavirus is somehow linked to 5G and EMF's.
Glad someone is starting to look in a different direction. I feel the CoV is the tip of the iceberg and there is something else more sinister behind it. This whole thing didn't not make sense to me. The CoV is much less dangerous and easier to kill than SARS, HIV, and nbr of others. There are videos showing people dropping dead or passed out while doing their daily chores. I am no biologist, but I am not an idiot either. There is no virus that does that. Catch a deadly virus and your immune system gives up progressively not suddenly; you do not go from walking around one minute and dead or in a comma the next.... unless it is coupled with a non biological weapon.

[Bill Ryan]

Good news from Ecuador...the potential case was negative.Thanks, but actually, that's a different case. The poor guy to the north in Quito, who I originally reported, now has "multiple organ failure" and is "close to death".

He presented at first with regular flu symptoms, but flu doesn't destroy the body like that. They've been waiting a week for the formal test results to come back from CDC, as there's no way of testing within Ecuador.

He'd flown in from China, so it seems almost certain he's South America's first case (and also, the second non-Chinese fatality). The medical community in Ecuador — very good people, without exception, in my experience — are just waiting.

[silvanelf]

It may be too early, but it seems that the spreading of the virus begins to slow down considerably since Jan 29 ... or they have an administrative backlog or there is a coverup or whatever.

I've compared the daily numbers of 'confirmed cases' in relation to the numbers of the previous day -- calculated as a percentage increase. Currently the number of 'confirmed cases' increases by about 22% per day, which means a doubling every 3.5 days.

If you like math, you can consider the log values (base 2 is preferable). An exponential increase will show up as log values lying on a straight line.

[Bill Ryan]

It may be too early, but it seems that the spreading of the virus begins to slow down considerably since Jan 29 ... or they have an administrative backlog or there is a coverup or whatever.

Yes. The problem with the reported numbers from China is that they can say whatever they like, and there's no way of checking a thing. They could easily 'slow down' the numbers, to make it appear as if they're getting it under control. Who knows?

My council to myself is:


Watch what the Chinese are doing, not what they're saying.
For true R0 and fatality rates, we may have to wait two or three weeks until statistically significant numbers (i.e. larger sample sizes) start to emerge from cases outside of China. Then we'll know a whole bunch more.

[Ascension]

Sorry about that. Did not realize there were 2 potential cases being reported on in Ecuador.

Hmmm, guess my question would be: how is it they were able to rule out the virus on the Cuenca case so quickly, but are still awaiting results from the CDC on the Quito case? It appears as if the Cuenca case was ruled out without CDC testing. Which leads to a second question: if they have the ability to rule out a case without testing, what are the criteria for exclusion?

Since the article says the hospital never considered the Cuenca case to be a corona virus case, they must be using some kind of symptom list and/or hospital test results as guidance before submitting samples to the CDC.

[Bill Ryan]

how is it they were able to rule out the virus on the Cuenca case so quickly, but are still awaiting results from the CDC on the Quito case? It appears as if the Cuenca case was ruled out without CDC testing. Which leads to a second question: if they have the ability to rule out a case without testing, what are the criteria for exclusion?As best I understand, he was a local man with zero contact with anyone in China, or anyone who'd been to China. He simply had flu (or some other infection with similar symptoms) and then began to recover quite quickly.

The article (https://cuencahighlife.com/coronavirus-ruled-out-in-cuenca-case/) says "early test results show the man is suffering from either the AH1N1 flu or an infection he contracted through contact with the urine of farm animals." The protocol with coronavirus testing is that if it's NOT flu or regular pneumonia — both of which can be tested for locally, quite simply — but they don't know what it actually is, then they really need to opt for a coronavirus test.

[I](Btw, no problem with the confusion! This is all part of the "fog of war". :) )

[TomKat]

There have been several social media references to the 2011 Matt Damon film Contagion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(2011_film)). I saw it years ago, but didn't enjoy it quite as much as the 1995 Dustin Hoffman film Outbreak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreak_(film)).

So I thought it might be instructive to watch Contagion again, and I've just started in. OMG. Not an exact match, of course (the virus in the movie has a higher fatality rate) but there's a whole bunch of parallels.

Here it is: the download is available for 7 days.


https://we.tl/t-veA1zUlR25 (AVI, 700 Mb)
https://we.tl/t-o6Qols18Cv (MP4, 653 Mb, plus subtitle file)


This star-studded movie has no sound track and is delivered in a deadpan, documentary style. I wonder if its main intent was propaganda.

Actually, it's pure propaganda, and a crappy movie to boot.

[Bill Ryan]

It may be too early, but it seems that the spreading of the virus begins to slow down considerably since Jan 29 ... or they have an administrative backlog or there is a coverup or whatever.

Yes. The problem with the reported numbers from China is that they can say whatever they like, and there's no way of checking a thing. Concerning reported numbers, here's a very interesting video from this page:


https://ntd.com/number-of-deaths-for-coronavirus-far-exceeds-those-released-by-chinese-regime-sources_429008.html

http://projectavalon.net/Number_of_Deaths_for_Coronavirus_Likely_Far_Exceeds_Those_Reported.mp4
Source: http://projectavalon.net/Number_of_Deaths_for_Coronavirus_Likely_Far_Exceeds_Those_Reported.mp4

Number of Deaths for Coronavirus Likely Far Exceeds Those Released by Chinese Regime: Sources

The number of deaths greatly exceeds those released by the Chinese regime, according to sources, who say the Hankou funeral crematorium is operating 24 hours a day. It has a capacity of 30 cremation furnaces.

As a result, actual numbers could exceed official figures by 10 times with no less than 200 deaths per day in Wuhan.

Hong Kong-based media reports an elderly woman named Liu Rong was sent to an isolation ward nine days after getting infected, but died within a few hours. Her body was immediately sent to the Hankou funeral home for cremation. According to the article, 14 to 20 cremators were all operating around the clock.

https://www.ntd.com/assets/uploads/2020/01/man-dead-e1580452104962-615x346.jpg
An elderly man wearing a face mask lies dead on the pavement after he collapsed
along a street near a hospital in Wuhan, China, on Jan. 30, 2020.

It takes a crematorium on average 1.5-3 hours to process a body, so the total number of dead being processed by the 14 crematoria of the Hankou funeral home could be between 112 and 224 per day.

On Jan. 28, an article surfaced on a number of mainland china (https://www.ntd.com/china.htm) news websites titled “Wuhan Civil Affairs Bureau Announces Exemption of Cremation Charges for the Remains of Patients Died in the Epidemic.” The reason was the sheer number of family members complaining to the Civil Affairs Bureau and the funeral home of the cost of delivering and cremating corpses. The usual cost is 12,000 yuan. ($1,730.)

A manager of a funeral home in Wuhan told The Epoch Times that the government demanded all cremation of dead bodies due to the virus be handled by the Hankou funeral home. The government also supplied the funeral home with multiple vehicles to help meet the demand.

The Epoch Times tried calling the Hankou funeral home several times, but wasn’t able to get through.

When the reporter told a different funeral home about that, the worker said it was because the Hankou funeral home was too busy.

A few days ago, a call for help came from medical staff in Wuhan on social media.

In the recording, the lady said she faced a large number of infected people every day without being able to cure them all.

She also said the actual number of infected people is more than 100,000. Amid tears, she explained there were more than 100 patients being seen by medical staff that day and that the majority of them are now dead.

[sunwings]

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Wearing a face mask all the time is horrible. Isolation would be a far better option. When it arrives to the West it would be far better to avoid unnecessary trips. Order groceries online etc.

Also, hand sanitizer seems is far more important.

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[King Arthur]

Has anyone posted this yet?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/thai-doctors-cure-coronavirus-patient-using-powerful-aids-drugs

Thai Doctors “Cure” Coronavirus Patient Using Powerful AIDS Drugs

Two doctors from Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok (Dr. Kriangsak Atipornwanich and Associate Professor Dr. Subsai Kongsangdao) decided to use oseltamivir, an anti-flu drug used to treat MERS along with lopinavir and ritonavir, two AIDS drugs that had been used with some success in Beijing, to treat a female patient whose condition was rapidly deteriorating.

The patient was admitted to Hua Hin Hospital then transferred to Rajavithi Hospital on Jan. 29.

"We checked related information and found anti-flu drugs were effective on MERS so we combined both groups of medications," he said. "After poor lab tests for 10 days, the test finally turned positive after 48 hours of administering the medications. The treatment, as well as the recovery, is fast."

[King Arthur]

In his 31 January 2020 show, Alex Jones pointed out the similarities between the Wuhan laboratory's logo and that of the evil corporation in Resident Evil.
Looking at the logos through night vision lenses, they are exactly the same.
That also looks like the Nazi iron cross.
Plus CORONA is an anagram of RACOON
https://game-experience.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Corona-Racoon-1024x576.jpg

There is a 2002 movie called Resident Evil, Raccoon City
https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Raccoon_City_(Anderson)

Raccoon City was a city located somewhere in the midwestern United States. It was a huge metropolis built by the Umbrella Corporation, ... and was used for conducting scientific research and experimentation. The city was destroyed after a viral outbreak, prompting a nuclear missile being fired into the city.

And there's a 2012 video game Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City, known in Japan as Biohazard: Operation Raccoon City
https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Resident_Evil:_Operation_Raccoon_City

The story focuses on two separate special forces teams - Delta Team and Echo Six .... Delta Team, a Umbrella Secret Service unit, is assigned by USS Command with the destruction of digital data incriminating Umbrella to the biological outbreak, as well as destroying facilities and killing witnesses to prevent the US government obtaining further data.

I've transcribed the relevant part of the Alex Jones show at https://pastebin.com/kwUDnVNd

It looks like this coronavirus outbreak may be used as the explanation for people keeling over in the streets when 5G is introduced, if only because Facebook censors everyone who posts the url of the article about the introduction of 5G in Wuhan.
Here's the link of said article:
http://en.hubei.gov.cn/news/newslist/201804/t20180416_1275769.shtml
5G was switched on during Halloween, 2019
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-10/31/c_138517734.htm

Alex Jones points out:
"the globalists are obsessed with putting their fingerprints on it.
... US special forces in Vietnam - they leave the ace of spades when they kill somebody in the mouth so you know who did it"

[King Arthur]

Here's another video from Alex Jones
https://banned.video/watch?id=5e361c474a3c8a002097bddf
MSM Tries To Suppress Evidence That HIV Delivery System Is Embedded In Coronavirus
Feb 2, 2020

I haven't had time to watch this yet but the comments are worth reading:


SteveMT
6 hours ago
Due to scientific criticism, the group of Indian scientists has withdrawn their publication.
"This paper has been withdrawn by its authors. They intend to revise it in response to comments received from the research community on their technical approach and their interpretation of the results. If you have any questions, please contact the corresponding author."


SteveMT
16 hours ago
The comment below was made at the publication website earlier today. It has not yet cleared moderation and it may never, so I have posted here also. Comment below:
Using the title word-choice "uncanny" for this publication is a minor issue. Given the ability of this virus to rapidly disseminate and its apparent high virulence, the origin of the four short-segment sequence inserts identified by the authors is of utmost importance. Specifically, is this virus naturally-occurring or was it created is the question. What the authors are proposing is the existence of a novel chimera virus composed of the innate RNA positive-sense coronavirus containing four reading-frame RNA segments of the HIV-1 [negative-stranded] retrovirus. This possibility seems farfetched, and other commenters [at the publication website] have already stated that there are many more plausible explanations than what this report suggests. However if the author's proposal is subsequently verified, a grim reality would surface because chimera viruses by definition are not naturally occurring, especially such a unique virus as this one would be. There are no examples of naturally occurring chimera viruses, and thus there are no examples of chimera viruses utilizing such dissimilar methods of reproduction. A random, multi-step spontaneous mutation versus a purposefully produced agent are the two possibilities.


Dchapman000
16 hours ago
I made a comment 5 days ago about how similar this Corona virus is to HiV specifically about the glycoproteins. That video has now been deleted. If it is man-made using the HIV virus as the shell with pneumonia RNA added into it's delivery system, it's what's known as a "Vector Virus". They are known virus designed to Target specific types of cells, whose RNA is altered to Target only cancer cells and the viral component is stripped from the RNA for instance. However, they can also be used as biowarfare and the viral components left intact or substituted with anything that's compatible in the genome sequence. Google scholar search for this. It was huge at the biotechnology conference back in 2014



GensSpace
17 hours ago

🚨 CARONAVIRUS 🚨
It is being helped along by 5G.
It is no mistake that this all started in the city of Wuhan
The technology WAS created by a man with the last name: Weiner
There is a tie to HIV!

Guys...it's all here:

"The pioneer of DNA based vaccinations is a man called Dr. Weiner.

He has perfected a new method of giving these DNA vaccines via a process that he created called: Electroporation (which is a electro magnetic pulse that opens up the cells, injects foreign DNA and then it closes.)

This is the same action that 5G technology uses in pulsed waves. Coincidentally, 5G was rolled out in the SAME city that the CaronaVirus has broken out.

Dr. Weiner:
https://www.med.upenn.edu/apps/faculty/index.php/p10392

Electroporation:

https://gdsajj.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/1978-cia-document-explains-science-of-recombinant-dna-for-bio-warfare/

This is a pulsed electrical current applied to local tissue to allow the cell to have holes in it to allow just enough synthetic DNA to enter, then the pulse stops and the cell closes, the problem here is that according to studies, a manuscript in Molecular therapy with references from 74 separate articles written in 2004, concludes that the use of gene transfer using Electroporation should only be used with human antibodies because problems could arise from cancer to death.



Dirk
20 hours ago
If you still haven't done it, and I hope you do, go watch the event to 01 series on YouTube. I watched it January 23rd and 24th. I do not have my notes that I took in front of me, so I can't tell you which segment it was in. In one of the segments, the representative from Johnson & Johnson said that they already had so many millions of HIV medication ready to go. That comment struck me as funny, so I wrote it down with a ??. the only other one I remember saying they were ready to go with a certain amount of something was the world bank, and they said they had 15 trillion dollars the emergency loans2go at a moment's notice. what does Johnson & Johnson representative stating that they had millions of HIV medication ready to go was just odd to me. Now you know why. Man-made synthetic. Release purposely.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's another video from Alex Jones
https://banned.video/watch?id=5e361c474a3c8a002097bddf
MSM Tries To Suppress Evidence That HIV Delivery System Is Embedded In Coronavirus
Feb 2, 2020

I haven't had time to watch this yet but the comments are worth reading:

I listened live. For me, it was a disappointing show. I learned very little in the two hours, maybe 20% of which actually contained any information of any kind. It was way too sensational (I have to say, it often is now), and I don't believe it was fully accurate. And nothing presented was any kind of 'exclusive' (as claimed!).

But of course, for those who didn't know anything about this, it would have been a valuable eye-opener. I just wish it could have been more measured and cautious. Even now, not that much is known with 100% certainty.

However, a few valuable points were made. The important interview with Dr James Lyons-Weiler was posted on this thread 3 days ago, and is absolutely worth listening to. See Delight's post #222 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333738&viewfull=1#post1333738) and my post #239 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333787&viewfull=1#post1333787). But in my opinion, Dr James Lyons-Weiler is all you really need to hear.

[James Newell]

I agree about Jones, he Does need a vacation. But the show with Mike Adams( 2nd hour of Sunday infowars show) was much better, he is a much better communicator re all this. Proving that the gene sequence is not natural but manmade IS a big deal.

It is interesting we had the evidence over a week ago really, just couldn't fully prove that it was a man made bio weapon. It also seems Big tech is in full concert to make the Indian university "revise" its study, they do not want this data out.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-02-coronavirus-bioweapon-chinese-vaccine-experiment-gone-wrong-pshuttle-sn-gene-sequence.html

[King Arthur]

That Lyons-Weiler video has been embedded and discussed in this article:
https://www.infowars.com/sunday-live-big-tech-helping-chicoms-suppress-origins-of-coronavirus-as-it-goes-global/

Scientists Confirm Coronavirus Man-Made…Contains ‘pShuttle-SN’ Sequence Proving Laboratory Origin
Experts believe may be Chinese vaccine experiment gone wrong

There’s a huge difference in the predicted health outcome for the world if this is a vaccination experiment in China versus just a laboratory escaped vaccine. In the vaccination experiment, you’re not vaccinated against coronavirus with that vaccine…, so if the Chinese tried to get a jump on the vaccine market by surreptitiously running clinical trials against the coronavirus, and made their elderly and immunocompromised more susceptible to death due to subsequent infection by any coronavirus with this protein that’s in the vaccine, then the rest of the world has a serious humanitarian issue…

…if it is a biological laboratory weapons escape, it’s going to be a nightmare, but if it’s a vaccine type that escaped because of an accidental injection into someone, it’s going to be worse than… if they made their entire population susceptible to SARS with a vaccine program.

we may, in fact, be looking at a true vaccine holocaust where vaccine researchers are now subjecting the entire world to a deadly mistake that could theoretically cause a very large number of fatalities…

[Bill Ryan]

I agree about Jones, he Does need a vacation. But the show with Mike Adams( 2nd hour of Sunday infowars show) was much better, he is a much better communicator re all this. Proving that the gene sequence is not natural but manmade IS a big deal.

It is interesting we had the evidence over a week ago really, just couldn't fully prove that it was a man made bio weapon. It also seems Big tech is in full concert to make the Indian university "revise" its study, they do not want this data out.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-02-coronavirus-bioweapon-chinese-vaccine-experiment-gone-wrong-pshuttle-sn-gene-sequence.html

Yes, it's very, very interesting that the New Delhi researchers appear to have been pressured to revise their paper. The original has now been withdrawn from the site, but I have it archived here.


http://projectavalon.net/HIV_delivery_system_insert_in_Wuhan_coronavirus_research_paper_original.pdf

All eyes will be on them to see what their revision turns out to be.

But scientifically speaking, the cat's out of the bag. There are too many independent virologists and laboratories who will now be looking at this VERY closely. I think it's too early to be conclusive, but in a week or so we may know more still.

The most important thing to bear in mind may be that it barely matters it it's a designed bioweapon or not. It might as well be... it's sure behaving like one.

It may not matter too much right now how this bushfire started. The crucial thing is to get it under control.

For me personally, Mike Adams is almost as bad as Alex Jones. He's been way too sloppy and sensational, and his presentations slide all over the road. (3 days ago, he told everyone that 10% of the world's population would definitely die. Give me a break! :facepalm: :bigsmile: )

I've listened carefully to a lot of informed interviews and presentations in the last week, and for me, Chris Martenson, Dr James Lyons-Weiler, Stefan Molyneux, and Michael Gu (from Boxmining.com) have been the standouts. They're concise, information-dense, cautious, clear, and don't stray a millimeter from the core subject.

[Delight]

Live now. The campaign by MSM to say the flu is worse than coronavirus is strange!

P_3hNPTofEU

Boxmining update too

KJlznsSNx54

[TEOTWAIKI]

I agree about Jones, he Does need a vacation. But the show with Mike Adams( 2nd hour of Sunday infowars show) was much better, he is a much better communicator re all this. Proving that the gene sequence is not natural but manmade IS a big deal.

It is interesting we had the evidence over a week ago really, just couldn't fully prove that it was a man made bio weapon. It also seems Big tech is in full concert to make the Indian university "revise" its study, they do not want this data out.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-02-coronavirus-bioweapon-chinese-vaccine-experiment-gone-wrong-pshuttle-sn-gene-sequence.html

Yes, it's very, very interesting that the New Delhi researchers appear to have been pressured to revise their paper. The original has now been withdrawn from the site, but I have it archived here.


http://projectavalon.net/HIV_delivery_system_insert_in_Wuhan_coronavirus_research_paper_original.pdf

All eyes will be on them to see what their revision turns out to be.

But scientifically speaking, the cat's out of the bag. There are too many independent virologists and laboratories who will now be looking at this VERY closely. I think it's too early to be conclusive, but in a week or so we may know more still.

The most important thing to bear in mind may be that it barely matters it it's a designed bioweapon or not. It might as well be... it's sure behaving like one.

It may not matter too much right now how this bushfire started. The crucial thing is to get it under control.

For me personally, Mike Adams is almost as bad as Alex Jones. He's been way too sloppy and sensational, and his presentations slide all over the road. (3 days ago, he told everyone that 10% of the world's population would definitely die. Give me a break! :facepalm: :bigsmile: )

I've listened carefully to a lot of informed interviews and presentations in the last week, and for me, Chris Martenson, Dr James Lyons-Weiler, Stefan Molyneux, and Michael Gu (from Boxmining.com) have been the standouts. They're concise, information-dense, cautious, clear, and don't stray a millimeter from the core subject.

I for one really like to see these documents being tucked away for safe keeping.
Maybe we should try to make a copy of everything you have, Bill, and bury it under the Georgia Guidestones.
Give civilization a fighting chance next time :)

As for the final tally of this viruse, I don't think we have accurate enough information at this point for any kind of meaningful predicition but I would sure vote to have this kind of research halted immediately; it's just doesn't seem a good idea at all to make pathogens that have the capability of extinction level events.

[meeradas]

Couldn't find this 2017 NYT article posted here (sorry if it was already):

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/health/lethal-viruses-nih.html


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Am just dropping a name here, so that we already have it "on screen",
should we by chance hear about them in thi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQKYegj6S-4)s context:
emergentbiosolutions.com

[german speakers, noticed the hidden link?]


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Whatever the virus is, it means big [huge!] money for some...

[Patient]

I agree about Jones, he Does need a vacation. But the show with Mike Adams( 2nd hour of Sunday infowars show) was much better, he is a much better communicator re all this. Proving that the gene sequence is not natural but manmade IS a big deal.

It is interesting we had the evidence over a week ago really, just couldn't fully prove that it was a man made bio weapon. It also seems Big tech is in full concert to make the Indian university "revise" its study, they do not want this data out.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-02-coronavirus-bioweapon-chinese-vaccine-experiment-gone-wrong-pshuttle-sn-gene-sequence.html

Yes, it's very, very interesting that the New Delhi researchers appear to have been pressured to revise their paper. The original has now been withdrawn from the site, but I have it archived here.


http://projectavalon.net/HIV_delivery_system_insert_in_Wuhan_coronavirus_research_paper_original.pdf

All eyes will be on them to see what their revision turns out to be.

But scientifically speaking, the cat's out of the bag. There are too many independent virologists and laboratories who will now be looking at this VERY closely. I think it's too early to be conclusive, but in a week or so we may know more still.

The most important thing to bear in mind may be that it barely matters it it's a designed bioweapon or not. It might as well be... it's sure behaving like one.

It may not matter too much right now how this bushfire started. The crucial thing is to get it under control.

For me personally, Mike Adams is almost as bad as Alex Jones. He's been way too sloppy and sensational, and his presentations slide all over the road. (3 days ago, he told everyone that 10% of the world's population would definitely die. Give me a break! :facepalm: :bigsmile: )

I've listened carefully to a lot of informed interviews and presentations in the last week, and for me, Chris Martenson, Dr James Lyons-Weiler, Stefan Molyneux, and Michael Gu (from Boxmining.com) have been the standouts. They're concise, information-dense, cautious, clear, and don't stray a millimeter from the core subject.

I for one really like to see these documents being tucked away for safe keeping.
Maybe we should try to make a copy of everything you have, Bill, and bury it under the Georgia Guidestones.
Give civilization a fighting chance next time :)

As for the final tally of this viruse, I don't think we have accurate enough information at this point for any kind of meaningful predicition but I would sure vote to have this kind of research halted immediately; it's just doesn't seem a good idea at all to make pathogens that have the capability of extinction level events.

I agree and I am sure most people would agree to halt research to make viruses more lethal.

Even if it was put to a vote, there will always be a private lab somewhere that would continue. Seems that no matter what it is, humans will attempt to do the craziest and riskiest things.

When it is your daily work, regardless how tight and locked down things are, people make errors. People get comfortable and sometimes forget how serious some things are.

I have seen this type of simple errors first hand - but luckily it was not deadly virus related.

[Agape]

Nearly natural recipe for disinfectant for coronavirus from Japanese labs(2003):

https://patents.google.com/patent/JP2005145864A/en

It’s very good in my opinion( check the ingredients) but probably very costly for commercial use, wonder what are they spraying ?

Drones used to disinfect Chinese villages (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dronedj.com/2020/02/01/drones-speakers-shame-people-coronavirus-china/amp/)


Seems to be big operation underway the logic of which is insufficient
in my opinion, even if there’s “airborne” transmission of the virus
that happens from animal to human and human to human,
and even if the virus mutated since the time of its transmission to human host( or alternatively, was manufactured in lab),

one of the most important clues to the situation would be detecting the original host of the epidemics, talking of coronaviruses they live and strive happily in many animal species( horses, cattle, bats, fish etc.) often without causing symptomatic response - unless - which is true for humans - the immune system is weakened or the viral colony overgrows and that’s most likely to occur due to joint effort of more than one viral colony acting as growth and mutation catalyser for developing even “natural bioweapon”.

Most of the original viral transmissions in past occurred elsewhere in the world - between animals and humans- with raw meat consumption.
China is primo example of culture where all kinds of creatures are consumed,
some of them alive.

Of course it would be nearly impossible to check “all the fish” in Wuhan seafood market not to mention all the rest of creatures people eat.

But how comes the market is still opened? If the first 47 infected patients were employees or managers of the Wuhan live market
and we talk of coronaviruses the market should be under quarantine
and I’d strongly advise against consumption
of any live creatures, raw or “wild” meats.

There’s a huge lesson China has to take in about live and exotic animal consumption towards safe foods and being part of the civilised world and global ecosystem.

I’m not saying it’s “their fault” because all the famines and starvation of the past but I believe that times has changed profoundly since, the Chinese government invests lots to efforts to provide people with safe food pathways and products
and people, despite “eating everything” need to ascend in their consciousness( and conscience) from eating everything that crawls, runs and flies around to eating safe and healthy.


The viral transmission in this case seems to be almost traceable from one infected person to another. Global “spraying” and panic about it is absurd and unnecessary,
instead the original host should be traced and acknowledged openly so that the link between any host animal and humans is disrupted.

[Delight]

Coronavirus epidemic update by pulmonologist Dr. Seheult of https://www.medcram.com
This video details the novel coronavirus incubation period, the updated confirmed cases, deaths, and recoveries from the coronavirus. Dr. Seheult provides illustrations of how coronavirus spreads including new reports on the possibility of fecal-oral transmission and prevention.

See our first 8 videos on the novel coronavirus:

- Coronavirus Outbreak Update 8: Travel Ban, Spread Outside of China, Quarantine, & MRSA: https://youtu.be/GpbUoLvpdCo

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From Seoul Korea

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From early this AM... Talking about high density US areas and lack of information about how to prepare in case of epidemic.

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[frankstien]

Repost--Related--

Here are some links regarding the Wuhan 5G and the Coronavirus connection--

Wuhan was the province where 5G was rolled out, now the center of deadly virus
https://5g-emf.com/wuhan-was-the-province-where-5g-was-rolled-out-now-the-center-of-deadly-virus/

Jim Stone: Wuhan is where 5G was rolled out. What if this pandemic is caused by weakened immune systems due to excessive 5g exposure?
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=139477

https://i1.wp.com/5g-emf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Wuhan.png?w=850&ssl=1

[pyrangello]

Insurance Companies Can Refuse Claims Related to Electromagnetic Radiation Illnesses

https://5gtechnologynews.com/insurance-companies-can-refuse-claims-related-to-electromagnetic-radiation-illnesses/

I remember when one of the biggest insurance firms in the world said NOPE were not covering the effects of 5G exposure. And so this really brings into question , why wouldn't they?

[pyrangello]

CDC Confirms 11th US Case In California; 195 Quarantined On Military Base: Virus Updates
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/i-cant-let-my-mom-die-home-desperate-patients-swarm-wuhan-hospital-hong-kong-closes

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/brace-impact-global-pandemic-already-baked

None of these assumptions are even remotely realistic.

Neither is the expectation that an effective vaccine will be ready for mass inoculations in a month or two. Realistic timelines for an effective vaccine are four to six months for development of a vaccine, then additional months to test its safety and effectiveness and more months if all goes well to produce hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccine, and then more time to distribute the vaccines.

It's natural to grasp at straws in crisis, and natural to take every false dawn for sunrise. Announcements that the rate of infection is slowing will be taken as evidence the virus will soon be completely under control, when a decline from RO 4 to RO 3 or RO 2 doesn't mean the virus is about to disappear; all it means is the rate of expansion has declined. Premature announcements of a cure will encourage a complacent expectation of a quick return to "normal life" that will be severely challenged by the "Wave Two" global expansion of the virus.

The economic, political and social consequences of the extreme measures required to control the spread of the virus (total lockdown of an entire country's transportation systems)--or the failure to pursue such extreme measures, enabling the spread of the virus--are the second-order effects I've been exploring in recent blog posts: consequences have their own consequences.

If we accept what is known about the virus, then logic, science and probabilities all suggest we brace for impact.

So from me and my own personal opinion- Nobody really knows how this virus is going to end up and what the impacts are going to be down the line. Fact 1 - It is still spreading and new cases are showing up all around the world.Limited or Mass , they are still happening so it is indeed still spreading Fact 2 The only weapon any government has at this point is quarantine and that's all, which isn't something to freak you out. It basically is a tool for the society of that country to help not overwhelm the systems -hospitals, drug stores, emergency personal, ect ect. . Fact 3 in developed countries there are more resources for medical care than the underdeveloped countries, which should help slow down the spread quite a bit. In the under-developed countries-its up to the developed ones to help out. Fact 4 This one the unknown at this present time which would be the virus partnering up with another virus as it spreads to make this much more fatal.This is probably the one hang glider that everyone is hoping does not happen. This is the situation that prayers are in order that does not happen............................................... So now what? we wait, we watch, and we gather information for ourselfs , our family, and our neighbors around us . If you can do something everyday to prepare a bit more of the what if 's just in case that would be the prudent thing to do at this point. And while this is all going on we do our daily routine of going to work , taking care of our family and living life until otherwise happens. Everyone here reading Avalon are some of the best informed citizens of the earth as all of us have contributed topics on this virus that is newsworthy, or medical preparations, or homeopathic remedies. There have been good debates on the what ifs? But more importantly we are the Avalon family moving forward together eliminating fear by self educating each other.

The 1918 Influenza Pandemic (Photos) https://unwritten-record.blogs.archives.gov/2018/03/13/the-1918-influenza-pandemic-photos/
As I look thru the photos of 100 years ago, things look very much the same as whats happening today , history repeating itself and mankind doing what it can do to make it thru another rough time. Will get thru this :)

[James Newell]

It is truly amazing we can be living on a planet where people, companies, nations can make deadly viruses and actually make a profit out of patenting them and then make a " vaccine" to save the infected people.

The Nazi's got hung for their crimes against humanity. I think we the people of this planet need to start getting a bit pissed about these people doing things like this.

If this is a bio weapon and large amounts of people get sick and die from it, it is time for trials and courts on this don't you think.

[Andre]

The disturbing segments in the video begin at 1.25m and comprise a whole series of video clips, purportedly of the pandemic but I'm wondering if they're genuine or just put together from old footage as disnformation. If they are real, it would seem to add a whole other level to the situation. (Apologies if this has been dealt with earlier in the thread - in which case please delete from here).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns5aor8WCAw

[Ron Mauer Sr]

My suspicions are:
1. The Coronavirus was engineered and patented in the U.S. as a biological weapon, designed to have most damage upon oriental races.
2. China was setup to steal the virus, possibly without knowledge of targeted ethnic groups.
3. Somehow the virus got loose in China.

I am not a qualified psychic.
I am just a conspiracy theorist with good but not infallible intuition.
I question everything, even my own suspicions.

[Baby Steps]

My suspicions are:
1. The Coronavirus was engineered and patented in the U.S. as a biological weapon, designed to have most damage upon oriental races.
2. China was setup to steal the virus, possibly without knowledge of targeted ethnic groups.
3. Somehow the virus got loose in China.

I am not a qualified psychic.
I am just a conspiracy theorist with good but not infallible intuition.
I question everything, even my own suspicions.


yes- this may be far fetched, but there are a number of ways that asymmetric war is being waged against China.

Releasing a bug that chinese spies had stolen, in the vicinity of the bioweapons research facility, could cause popular disgust in china towards their government. The people could blame the gov

[Snoweagle]

Creator Of US BioWeapons Act Says Coronavirus Is Biological Warfare Weapon



Via GreatGameIndia.com,

In an explosive interview Dr. Francis Boyle, who drafted the Biological Weapons Act has given a detailed statement admitting that the 2019 Wuhan Coronavirus is an offensive Biological Warfare Weapon and that the World Health Organization (WHO) already knows about it . . .

(read more in the article at Zerohedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon) above)

[justntime2learn]

They show a guy coughing up blood on a train....these poor people....

This is from Mike Adams, The Health Ranger:

https://www.brighteon.com/f3a6f314-e83a-4f86-a941-f9acd2bc0e82

f3a6f314-e83a-4f86-a941-f9acd2bc0e82




Disturbing Video Leaks From China
⚠️#Coronavirus ⚠️In the province of #Fujian , in the south of #China , Police try to cut the access after the Virus outbreak... Citizens use wooden furniture to break barriers & Check points to escape. Long waiting lines in #Wuhan China as well as heavy armed police paroling the streets!!

[syrwong]

The number of people dead from the virus in Wuhan is certainly much higher than the official figures. This is not to say the government is lieing because it releases only the number for the confirmed cases. I heard from a friend who knew a Wuhanese who described a very grim picture, saying that because there is no transport, the sick had to walk long way to the hospital, many died on the way or during queueing. Some jumped off the building.

The video shows Wuhanese shouting encouragements to each other across buildings at night while quarantined at home.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW3MMuCJO5Y

[Bill Ryan]

The number of people dead from the virus in Wuhan is certainly much higher than the official figures. Michael Gu (from Boxmining.com, based in Hong Kong), who published this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlznsSNx54) posted by Delight (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?10280-Delight) in her post #364 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1334218&viewfull=1#post1334218), and who's a very smart, very pleasant, very cautious, math-oriented guy, estimates the numbers of cases and fatalities have both been artificially under-reported by a factor of 10 to 16 — and that's just in Wuhan.

[Cognitive Dissident]

The Zerohedge article referred to above is significant.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

Here we have a serious scientist saying that the virus is a bio weapon. For some reason the Indians seem to be all over this. Maybe related to the bat reservoir for viruses in Nagaland.

The MSM narrative is already totally disconnected from reality in three key areas:

1) believing the Chinese numbers. New infections went exponential only after Wuhan was quarantined? Really it makes more sense that the cat was out of the bag before the quarantine- they have already admitted that 5 million people from Wuhan left before the quarantine- mostly to Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. Watch for local transmission in those countries

2) the origin was NOT the Wuhan wet market, that’s clear and there are plenty of indications of artificial creation. No firm proof but it’s at least an open question.

3) why is the transmission rate inside China so much higher than outside China? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Stay safe everyone and take appropriate precautions.

[justntime2learn]

The number of people dead from the virus in Wuhan is certainly much higher than the official figures. This is not to say the government is lieing because it releases only the number for the confirmed cases. I heard from a friend who knew a Wuhanese who described a very grim picture, saying that because there is no transport, the sick had to walk long way to the hospital, many died on the way or during queueing. Some jumped off the building.

The video shows Wuhanese shouting encouragements to each other across buildings at night while quarantined at home.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW3MMuCJO5Y

I love this video!

I was the first like in five views :)

[Bill Ryan]

The Zerohedge article referred to above is significant.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

Here we have a serious scientist saying that the virus is a bio weapon. For some reason the Indians seem to be all over this. Maybe related to the bat reservoir for viruses in Nagaland.

The MSM narrative is already totally disconnected from reality in three key areas:

1) believing the Chinese numbers. New infections went exponential only after Wuhan was quarantined? Really it makes more sense that the cat was out of the bag before the quarantine- they have already admitted that 5 million people from Wuhan left before the quarantine- mostly to Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. Watch for local transmission in those countries

2) the origin was NOT the Wuhan wet market, that’s clear and there are plenty of indications of artificial creation. No firm proof but it’s at least an open question.

3) why is the transmission rate inside China so much higher than outside China? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Stay safe everyone and take appropriate precautions.Yes, many thanks. :highfive: The very important interview was posted by Helvetic in his post #240 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333790&viewfull=1#post1333790). Here's the video — recommended:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM

[Sarah Rainsong]

The Zerohedge article referred to above is significant.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

Here we have a serious scientist saying that the virus is a bio weapon. For some reason the Indians seem to be all over this. Maybe related to the bat reservoir for viruses in Nagaland.

The MSM narrative is already totally disconnected from reality in three key areas:

1) believing the Chinese numbers. New infections went exponential only after Wuhan was quarantined? Really it makes more sense that the cat was out of the bag before the quarantine- they have already admitted that 5 million people from Wuhan left before the quarantine- mostly to Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. Watch for local transmission in those countries

2) the origin was NOT the Wuhan wet market, that’s clear and there are plenty of indications of artificial creation. No firm proof but it’s at least an open question.

3) why is the transmission rate inside China so much higher than outside China? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Stay safe everyone and take appropriate precautions.

You have pretty nailed the exact things I'm thinking/questioning. It is interesting how the MSM has really dropped the ball, too. I'm on a homeschool forum where the members are not inclined to conspiracy theories at. all. But even they are talking about these exact things.

Regarding #3, I'm wondering if it's so much higher inside China because the environment created the 'perfect storm' of conditions with vaccines, pollution (air and sanitation), densely populated, and 5G rollout ~OR~ is is because the rest of the world just hasn't gotten far enough along in cases yet?

[Delight]

Had not seen this posted from 2/1

PROOF: The "Novel Coronavirus" Infecting the World is a MILITARY BIO-WEAPON Developed by China's Army (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/proof-the-novel-coronavirus-infecting-the-world-is-a-military-bio-weapon-developed-by-china-s-army)

[Delight]

The Zerohedge article referred to above is significant.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

Here we have a serious scientist saying that the virus is a bio weapon. For some reason the Indians seem to be all over this. Maybe related to the bat reservoir for viruses in Nagaland.

The MSM narrative is already totally disconnected from reality in three key areas:

1) believing the Chinese numbers. New infections went exponential only after Wuhan was quarantined? Really it makes more sense that the cat was out of the bag before the quarantine- they have already admitted that 5 million people from Wuhan left before the quarantine- mostly to Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. Watch for local transmission in those countries

2) the origin was NOT the Wuhan wet market, that’s clear and there are plenty of indications of artificial creation. No firm proof but it’s at least an open question.

3) why is the transmission rate inside China so much higher than outside China? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Stay safe everyone and take appropriate precautions.Yes, many thanks. :highfive: The very important interview was posted by Helvetic in his post #240 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333790&viewfull=1#post1333790). Here's the video — recommended:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM

That was a terribly chilling interview. Biological warfare was resurgent due 9/11 and Francis Boyle states we cannot trust any of the PTB WHO, CDC and by implication any government to act with regard to our well being.

Mentioned Anthrax War

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[syrwong]

Had not seen this posted from 2/1

PROOF: The "Novel Coronavirus" Infecting the World is a MILITARY BIO-WEAPON Developed by China's Army (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/proof-the-novel-coronavirus-infecting-the-world-is-a-military-bio-weapon-developed-by-china-s-army)

When I read to the part the government is wanting the people to kill all their pets I stopped reading. I don't think it is true as I know reasonably well that there is no such thing in the southern province of Guangdong which has the most number of confirmed cases besides Wuhan. Too many people in China are keeping pets. There is no scientific basis that the pets are infected and must be culled. Certainly, the government would not want to enrage the populace by issuing such a useless order.

As usual, one must wonder why the victim is always the villain too.

[Sarah Rainsong]

At this point in time, I've heard opinions of enough scientists to believe that this was produced in a laboratory. Now, personal experience tells me never to hold to stuff like this as 100% gospel truth, but I'm as close to that as I can reasonably get.

Having said that, ever here the saying "Point a finger at someone and you've got three pointing back at you"? That's what coming to mind with the many accusations--from various places!--saying China did this. Mostly, it's not that I think they did NOT, it's that it seems to be using faulty reasoning. The repeated reasoning I've seen basically says that China is acting guilty. They knew it was bad. That's why they're not releasing the real numbers. That's why they've quarantined millions of people.

Except that's Western way of thinking. The Chinese will not admit it was their fault unless they have no other choice or it is in their best interest/plan. They will do everything they can to save face. This, of course, includes not admitting that they accidentally or intentionally released this virus. BUT it ALSO includes not admitting that a foreign power snuck in under their guard and accomplished such a devastating attack.

While there's a pretty good chance that it came from their lab, it's not like there aren't many other labs around the world engaged in exactly that kind of work. So maybe they are the victims of sabotage. But maybe it is totally on them. I don't know. Either way, I feel like China's in a no-win situation with regards to how this virus got into their population, and using the argument of "they acted guiltily, therefore they are guilty" is just faulty reasoning to me.

(Oh, and Delight, I certainly don't mean this against you--I have really enjoyed your posts. I've started referencing several of the sources you've shared!)

[onawah]

Big one: Origin story of China epidemic falls apart completely
Feb 3 2020
by Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/03/big-one-origin-story-of-china-epidemic-falls-apart-completely/

"This is a big one.

How do experts tell the story of the origin of the China epidemic?

The story is always important. The medical professionals need to make it sound credible.

If it has major flaws, it’s as if a stage magician screws up a trick in full view of the audience. As he’s sawing a woman in a box in half, everyone sees her sneaking out of the back of the box. Busted.

That’s what’s happening in the case of the so-called China epidemic.

According to Chinese and international public health agencies, the epidemic started in Wuhan, in a hospital, with a single patient who had pneumonia. The doctors could find no cause. Soon, researchers discovered the never-before-seen coronavirus in the patient.

Really? Let’s break this down. The doctors couldn’t find a cause for the patient’s pneumonia. That means they didn’t locate the usual bacteria or viruses said to be responsible for pneumonia. They were puzzled.

BUT as I’ve pointed out in past articles, the city of Wuhan is famous for clouds of foul pollution. The unprecedented combination of toxic compounds in the air constitutes a clear and present danger. Last summer, there was a large protest in the city focusing on this very issue. When lots of people take to the streets in China, you know the issue is serious—because the brutal government doesn’t take kindly to public expressions of dissatisfaction.

SO…who cares if doctors in a Wuhan hospital couldn’t find familiar bacteria or viruses in a PNEUMONIA patient? LOOK AT THE AIR POLLUTION. You want a cause for lung problems? THERE IT IS. In other words, why would this patient be a mystery in the first place? Why would researchers look for a virus no one had ever seen before? This whole origin-story is absurd. It vibrates with ripples of FAKE.

It’s as if emergency workers bring a person into a hospital after a car accident…and the doctors are puzzled because they can’t find a bacterial explanation for the person’s injuries.

There is more. Much more.

The medical professionals had to deal with the possibility that this “new” coronavirus wasn’t new at all. Suppose it had been in the world for decades or centuries, obviously causing people no harm? If so, that would sink their ship. They couldn’t have that. They couldn’t admit—“Oops, sorry, everyone, we made a mistake. Finding this coronavirus in people all over the world means NOTHING because, you see, it’s been around for a long, long time, and it’s never caused problems. So when we said we’ve found people who have been ‘infected’, we really mean they have this harmless virus in them.” No, no, that would never do.

Instead, the pros would have to claim the coronavirus JUST EMERGED in humans for the very first time. A FEW MONTHS AGO, it crossed over from animals (bats, snakes) to humans.

And that’s exactly what they are saying.

Here is a statement from StatNews (“DNA sleuths read the coronavirus genome, tracing its origins and looking for dangerous mutations,” January 24, 2020). It’s a bit complicated, but read it over, and then I’ll comment:

“Given what’s known about the pace at which viral genomes mutate, if nCoV [the coronavirus] had been circulating in humans since significantly before the first case was reported on Dec. 8, the 24 genomes [from, presumably, 24 different samples of the virus in 24 people] would differ more. Applying ballpark rates of viral evolution, Rambaut [one of the “experts”] estimates that the Adam (or Eve) virus from which all others are descended first appeared no earlier than Oct. 30, 2019, and no later than Nov. 29.”

My, my. That’s quite a precise peg: the coronavirus jumped from animals to humans, for the very first time, between October 30 and November 29, 2019. The experts can assure us that it never existed in humans until that one-month period. Absurd. No one can perform such an exact analysis. Therefore, their whole story about the human origin of the coronavirus wobbles out of the range of credibility. By miles. Whether they’re just winging it, or fabricating it, or making gross errors in bolstering their tale…there is no reason to believe anything they say about when the coronavirus surfaced in humans.

The coronavirus could have existed for a long time in humans—causing no damage or harm whatsoever.

The entire “origin story” of the “coronavirus epidemic” is riddled with exaggerations and fabrications.

Finding traces of the virus in humans and then calling these people “infected” and “carriers” and “spreaders” and “epidemic cases” is ridiculous.

Claiming the virus has spread out from Wuhan across the world is typical nonsense. The virus could have ALREADY been present in MANY different places. It didn’t spread. It was THERE.

To cite a precedent, several years ago the Zika virus was called an ominous germ that was spreading around the world, causing women to give birth to babies with smaller heads and brain damage (microcephaly). I then reported that, according to mainstream medical sources, ANY injury to a pregnant woman could cause microcephaly. No virus necessary. And it emerged that the Zika virus had actually been discovered in…1947. It had never been known to cause harm.

In yet another fake epidemic story—this one, also a coronavirus—the SARS “epidemic” of 2003 turned out to be a dud. The official death toll, when all was said and done? 800 people out of a population of 7 billion. And in Canada, a World Health Organization microbiologist, Frank Plummer, confessed to the press that the number of SARS patients who actually had the coronavirus in their bodies was approaching ZERO. In other words, these patients, who had nothing more than typical flu symptoms, couldn’t have SARS, because they didn’t have the virus that was supposed to be causing SARS.

“Excuse me, waiter, I ordered dinner and you brought me a bowl of stale soggy cereal.”

“No, sir. You must be mistaken. Can’t you see the dinner on the table in front of you? We’re the experts. Leave the facts to us.”

Sorry. No sale.

Some people, reading what I’ve laid out in this article, will say, “But what about all the people who are sick in this epidemic?” Take a step back. A so-called confirmed case of the coronavirus doesn’t necessarily refer to a person who is sick. If “tests show” a person “has the virus,” he is counted as “a case.” He may have no symptoms at all. Or he may have very mild symptoms. Most so-called cases ARE mild—and, as I’ve explained in other articles, the diagnostic tests for the coronavirus do not prove a patient’s symptoms are CAUSED by the virus. The causes can easily come from other sources. This fact applies to anyone with any degree of illness who is called “a case of the epidemic.”

Finally, keep in mind that people all over the planet have the symptoms that are now being labeled, “China epidemic”: ordinary flu symptoms—fever, weakness, cough, headache, and lung problems. These symptoms can and do come about from a whole catalog of various reasons, none of which need “the story of the coronavirus.” It’s as easy as pie to claim, without evidence, that someone who has these symptoms, and “tests positive for the virus,” is a “confirmed epidemic case.”

This is exactly how some of the fake epidemics ARE synthetically put together and fabricated. Form a hypothetical “cluster” of people in different locales who all have typical flu-like symptoms. Claim they are all suffering from the direct effects of a single virus. Deploy diagnostic tests to test for the presence of the virus that—if the tests work at all—merely establish that the virus is in some of these people’s bodies. The tests say NOTHING about whether the virus is causing harm. But gloss over that vital fact. Skip ahead and say: WE HAVE A SPREADING GLOBAL EPIDEMIC ON OUR HANDS. QUARANTINES ARE NECESSARY. WHEN WE DELIVER A VACCINE, EVERYONE MUST TAKE IT.

No.

Case unproven and therefore dismissed."

[Delight]

At this point in time, I've heard opinions of enough scientists to believe that this was produced in a laboratory. Now, personal experience tells me never to hold to stuff like this as 100% gospel truth, but I'm as close to that as I can reasonably get.

Having said that, ever here the saying "Point a finger at someone and you've got three pointing back at you"? That's what coming to mind with the many accusations--from various places!--saying China did this. Mostly, it's not that I think they did NOT, it's that it seems to be using faulty reasoning. The repeated reasoning I've seen basically says that China is acting guilty. They knew it was bad. That's why they're not releasing the real numbers. That's why they've quarantined millions of people.

Except that's Western way of thinking. The Chinese will not admit it was their fault unless they have no other choice or it is in their best interest/plan. They will do everything they can to save face. This, of course, includes not admitting that they accidentally or intentionally released this virus. BUT it ALSO includes not admitting that a foreign power snuck in under their guard and accomplished such a devastating attack.

While there's a pretty good chance that it came from their lab, it's not like there aren't many other labs around the world engaged in exactly that kind of work. So maybe they are the victims of sabotage. But maybe it is totally on them. I don't know. Either way, I feel like China's in a no-win situation with regards to how this virus got into their population, and using the argument of "they acted guiltily, therefore they are guilty" is just faulty reasoning to me.

(Oh, and Delight, I certainly don't mean this against you--I have really enjoyed your posts. I've started referencing several of the sources you've shared!)

Syrwong, rainsong et al ... I don't want you to think I believe everything I find. I am not even sure this is at all what is presented in anyway.

For some reason I have been very taken with trying to understand what this might be or not. This whole event seems really bizarre. IMO everyone looking at it and discussing it is the valuable part. I feel really sad for all the people suffering from the quarintines. Hope its true that people are not being forced to cull pets. I tend to be on the side of Jon Rappaport....


This is exactly how some of the fake epidemics ARE synthetically put together and fabricated. Form a hypothetical “cluster” of people in different locales who all have typical flu-like symptoms. Claim they are all suffering from the direct effects of a single virus. Deploy diagnostic tests to test for the presence of the virus that—if the tests work at all—merely establish that the virus is in some of these people’s bodies. The tests say NOTHING about whether the virus is causing harm. But gloss over that vital fact. Skip ahead and say: WE HAVE A SPREADING GLOBAL EPIDEMIC ON OUR HANDS. QUARANTINES ARE NECESSARY. WHEN WE DELIVER A VACCINE, EVERYONE MUST TAKE IT.


But I just don't know. This is another odd bit... corporations reacting


Watch the corporations (https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ey86j0/watch_the_corporations/)r/Coronavirus
•Posted byu/omegasupremo
13 hours ago
Watch the corporations
I work for a major multinational corporation. I don't want to say which, but it's a household name in technology. My employer operates in every region of the world, and like most large companies, Mainland China is of huge importance. Received an email today that all company travel to China has been banned until March. It's hard to overstate how big of a deal this is. Business stops at nothing- holidays, life events, terror attacks, weather disasters- I've seen the machine operate through it all. I've never once in my 20 year career seen a corporation pull the plug like this, let alone to China, which has been the single biggest focus of global capitalism for years now.

To those saying "the flu is a much bigger deal", I completely agree. The official numbers reported are a tiny fraction of what the global system endures during flu season every year. So that begs the question-- why are all these completely unprecedented actions being taken? Complete corporate pull outs, global travel freezes, rapid construction of new hospitals...why? 14k cases and 300 deaths statistically comes nowhere close to prompting these actions, especially in a population of almost 2B. And not for nothing, we have a global healthcare system that readily absorbs hundreds of thousands of serious flu cases annually. Even noteworthy flu spikes come nowhere close to prompting reactions like this.

Moreso than nationstates, corporations are the real power of this age, and business is the unifying global empire (this isn't meant to sound critical- simply a fact. Global business has helped usher in a long period of relative peace and prosperity...). Keep an eye on what big corporations do. If the rich and power take a pause from business activities, it is a huge sign that something extraordinary is happening. I think the actions of major corporations will be more telling than that of nations, which are increasingly slow to react and understaffed, underfunded, etc. If you want to guage the true health of the global order, watch the corporations.

[Delight]

Boxmining has an update daily for the time being. If you contribute to that channel, the funds will be used to involve citizen journalists willing to do on the ground investigation.

nsMcETTIZS0

[Agape]

Sorry for being an oddball but this too is important:


Lobsters overboard as China bans live seafood trade over coronavirus fears (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/lobsters-overboard-as-china-bans-live-seafood-trade-over-coronavirus-fears-20200201-p53wv3.html)

Victory for the lobsters 🌟finally ..

Or would you prefer to end up on someone’s plate as “white meat” instead ?

Allow me to tell you that I’ve observed people who feed a lots on “seafood” and other types of “wild meats” are special kind of oddballs themselves,
no matter their nationality and ethnic origins.

The truth is manifold. Marine life is contaminated nowadays by all the excess of waste we ourselves produced. Your average healthy can of sardines proves elevated amounts of mercury, lead and other metals you don’t really want to consume.
There’s micro plastic contamination and a “deeper ocean” of microscopic life in the oceans we see. This “deeper ocean” is much vaster in fact, inhabited by trillions of species of viruses and bacteria, amoebas, worms and parasites of all sorts.

It’s a cradle of Life in itself - almost- and it has unique capability to regenerate and rebalance itself given enough time and in Way, it always will.
Perhaps to it we are but one of its “microbes” who have grown over the number and it’s own edges to disturb balance and chemistry of the whole ecosystem.

Truly, if this cradle of Life has Mind of its own,
our lives can be vanished in the big recycle machine.

The sorrow of people dying is huge but how much of the causality needs to be changed or can be changed so that the next generation live healthier, happier lives?
Hundreds of people die but there’s millions of them out there who can get to the same situation anytime.

Yet you can keep safe🙏 You have the ability, the information , and the protocol and ability to teach others as well.

I’ve noticed people in all cultures and countries eat and keep themselves much cleaner and healthier than the previous generations due to rise of information and awareness.
But there are millions of people in far back with that awareness, therefor information barriers are so dangerous, as well as human and spiritual barriers people create.

Besides that I think that no religion that prioritises “humans alone” and is basically “only for humans” is good enough to be called universally applicable.
The oldest and nearly forgotten human cultures and their religions taught respect to all life. Thus they taught people live in balance with their ecosystem.

So called “modern humanity” either holds no “prejudice”, also little respect to the rest of sentient life around either or focuses its importance on “humans first”.

Forgetting they aren’t alone humans take all if not most space on the planet for themselves constantly complaining about their fear of “being invaded”.
It’s not surprising we have to fear so much after we have trespassed and broken through countless physical, biological and ethical borders we could and counting.

The “end of the biohack” is nowhere near just by the looks at current population faces. Like a swarm of locusts we are asked to “consume”.

So feed the Spirits, bless the awareness


Don’t just feed human bodies with bad stuff causing you all from obesity to diabetes to parasite infection.
Protect YOUR GENOME from biohack as much as you can.

It’s an edge of an abyss where humanity is standing it seems to me still subtly unaware or preferring so.
In the meantime : your dreams about returning to the “trees” have mostly been shattered and most of social simplicity was surpassed.

Trees are being cut down, in rare cases turned to museums.
Most of “wildlife” is dying in cages and reservations.

It’s time to stop being angry with evolution after you found your place on the top of the food chain. It’s time to evolve or perish before the tail of the Dragon poisons its own Head.


It’s time to be kind and compassionate. Because it is what decides about the survival of “our own kind”.

Just thinking


🙏🌟🕊

[DSKlausler]

Nothing new for this fully compromised government (the U.S. et al), but try this from a ex-pat engineer LIVING IN CHINA:

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

[Bill Ryan]

Nothing new for this fully compromised government (the U.S. et al), but try this from a ex-pat engineer LIVING IN CHINA:

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantageThanks — a very comprehensive, well-argued article. Such a scenario can't be impossible.

[Bill Ryan]

The latest from Chris Martenson (just 9 minutes).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRJD8ZxDLk[/url]
Several comments:


I believe he's correct that the next couple of weeks will be crucial.
Yes, WuFlu.live (http://wuflu.live) is currently the best update site, with numbers, graphs and interactive maps.
He remarks there are no reported cases in South America, and questions what that means. There is an almost certain case in Ecuador (see this news report (https://cuencahighlife.com/wait-continues-for-coronavirus-test-results-city-increases-no-parking-zones-rat-poop-found-in-pasta-factory-carnival-masquerades-at-cidap) and search for for 'coronavirus'). It was last reported 5 days ago on 31 January — the poor man had multiple organ failure and was "close to death" — but since then it's completely dropped out of the news. That seems hard to understand. I'm assuming that the poor soul died, but they still have no test results from CDC. I emailed Chris Martenson to let him know.

[Bill Ryan]

The Zerohedge article referred to above is significant.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

Here we have a serious scientist saying that the virus is a bio weapon. For some reason the Indians seem to be all over this. Maybe related to the bat reservoir for viruses in Nagaland.

The MSM narrative is already totally disconnected from reality in three key areas:

1) believing the Chinese numbers. New infections went exponential only after Wuhan was quarantined? Really it makes more sense that the cat was out of the bag before the quarantine- they have already admitted that 5 million people from Wuhan left before the quarantine- mostly to Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. Watch for local transmission in those countries

2) the origin was NOT the Wuhan wet market, that’s clear and there are plenty of indications of artificial creation. No firm proof but it’s at least an open question.

3) why is the transmission rate inside China so much higher than outside China? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Stay safe everyone and take appropriate precautions.Yes, many thanks. :highfive: The very important interview was posted by Helvetic in his post #240 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus&p=1333790&viewfull=1#post1333790). Here's the video — recommended:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM

That was a terribly chilling interview. Biological warfare was resurgent due 9/11 and Francis Boyle states we cannot trust any of the PTB WHO, CDC and by implication any government to act with regard to our well being.
~~~

Dr Francis Boyle will be on Infowars.com (http://Infowars.com) tomorrow (5 Feb), in the second hour. :thumbsup:

(Infowars is on average about 3 or 4 days behind Project Avalon right now. :P )

[ExomatrixTV]

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According to Wikipedia - Davos is host to the World Economic Forum (WEF), an annual meeting of global political and business elites.
That is where Mr Gates chose to deliver a dire warning as reported across the world’s Press:
'Bill Gates warns world is 'tragically unprepared' to stop global pandemics such as ebola or zika.' - (Daily Mirror)

'Bill Gates warns tens of millions could be killed by bio-terrorism' - (The Guardian)

Mr Gates’ public Health approach has been challenged in many countries including, most recently, India where his organisation was asked to leave that country.
Are Public Health measures helping or hindering the Human race; are they preventing illness or, as some contend, causing more harm than good?
Well, let's take a look at the scientific evidence!


https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AGF-l78-aLIiRWgDNkJRE1CdjAx7AMjH_h8309Aneg=s88-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiwB4KjNtPfq750zgHC2UnA)
Alternative View (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiwB4KjNtPfq750zgHC2UnA)

[AuCo]

Had not seen this posted from 2/1

PROOF: The "Novel Coronavirus" Infecting the World is a MILITARY BIO-WEAPON Developed by China's Army (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/proof-the-novel-coronavirus-infecting-the-world-is-a-military-bio-weapon-developed-by-china-s-army)

When I read to the part the government is wanting the people to kill all their pets I stopped reading. I don't think it is true as I know reasonably well that there is no such thing in the southern province of Guangdong which has the most number of confirmed cases besides Wuhan. Too many people in China are keeping pets. There is no scientific basis that the pets are infected and must be culled. Certainly, the government would not want to enrage the populace by issuing such a useless order.

As usual, one must wonder why the victim is always the villain too.

If these virus can live outside the human body over extended period of days then yes indeed pets can certainly attract them on their paws and fur and carry them to around.

[sunwings]

Nothing new for this fully compromised government (the U.S. et al), but try this from a ex-pat engineer LIVING IN CHINA:

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

Re-reading the Anglo Saxon mission and reading this article does start to show a possible plan in action. I never took the threat of nuclear war seriously but the following part of the mission could be taking place right before our eyes.

They needed either the Iranians or the Chinese to be guilty of first use nuclear weapons in order to justify the next stage. (My information shows that the Iranians do indeed have a tactical nuclear capability) The next stage would be a measured regional nuclear response, enough to cause an immediate ceasefire. This ceasefire would create the time needed to put in place unified totalitarian western governments. Thereafter, or concurrent, biological weapons would be used against the Chinese population. This would then set of another chain of events that would collapse the whole Chinese political and social infrastructure. This was mentioned as: Disease, followed by wide spread food shortages, followed by mass starvation. Somehow, this would then cause the Chinese military to attack eastern Russia. The biological agents were described as being flu like and would spread like wild fire. It shocks and sickens me to describe these events. It shocks me even more to know that plausible events are being manipulated to cause the extinction of a whole part of the human race.

[Bill Ryan]

Chris Martenson's update for today. He shows that much is being done, apparently co-ordinated globally at high levels, to play this all down.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV6IEdPc7AY

[James Newell]

Things are getting a bit serious on this topic, possibly justifiably so. But here is something to lighten things up a bit.
Could it be just another flu? Also I am ordering something from China right now and in our emails there is no mention of any situation over there from them. Maybe they know not to discuss it on email?

https://www.infowars.com/first-brit-with-coronavirus-defies-doctors-kills-illness-with-hot-whiskey-honey/

[Bill Ryan]

A measured and fairly simple (in broad terms!) update #10 by pulmonologist Dr Roger Seheult from MedCram, published today.

Of particular interest may be his thoughts about the now withdrawn New Delhi paper linking the novel coronavirus with an HIV-like insertion. That section starts at 9:30.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPwfiQgGsFo

[onawah]

Novel Coronavirus — The Latest Pandemic Scare
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/02/04/novel-coronavirus.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20200204Z1&et_cid=DM450922&et_rid=803953302
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"STORY AT-A-GLANCE
As of February 2, 2020, mainland China reported 17,187 confirmed cases of novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia (NCIP), including 362 deaths. The first case was reported in December 2019. Since then, cases have also been reported in at least 23 other countries, including the U.S., Canada, Australia, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea and France
Clinical manifestations of NCIP are consistent with viral pneumonia
The hysteria being drummed up follows a well-worn pattern where the population is kept in a state of fear about microbes so that drug companies can come to the rescue with yet another expensive (and potentially mandatory) drug or vaccine
In January 2018, China’s first biosecurity level 4 lab designed for the study of the world’s most dangerous pathogens opened its doors in Wuhan City, the epicenter of the current NCIP outbreak
October 18, 2019, Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation sponsored a pandemic preparedness exercise in New York, practicing for the emergence of a new fictional viral illness dubbed “coronavirus acute pulmonary syndrome”
Chances are you’ve heard the news about a new and potentially lethal coronavirus.1 Ground zero is Wuhan City, Hubei Province in China. As of February 2, 2020, mainland China reported2 a total of 17,187 confirmed cases, including 2,110 severe cases and 362 deaths (including a retired doctor working with coronavirus patients in Wuhan3).

The first case was reported in Wuhan on December 21, 2019. According to ProMED International Society for Infectious Diseases:4

"Patients' clinical manifestations were consistent with viral pneumonia. Most patients had severe and nonproductive cough following illness onset, some had dyspnea, and almost all had normal or decreased leukocyte counts and radiographic evidence of pneumonia.

Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market has western and eastern sections, and 15 environmental specimens collected in the western section were positive for 2019-nCoV virus through RT-PCR testing and genetic sequencing analysis. Despite extensive searching, no animal from the market has thus far been identified as a possible source of infection."

On January 21, 2020, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed the first U.S. case5 — a patient in Washington state who had recently visited Wuhan, China. A second case, in Illinois, was confirmed January 24, 2020.6 This patient had also recently returned from a visit to Wuhan. As of February 2, 2020, there were 11 confirmed cases in the U.S.7

Since then cases have also been reported in at least 23 other countries,8 including Canada, Australia,9 Japan, Thailand, South Korea,10 France,11 Taiwan, Vietnam, Singapore and Saudi Arabia.12 Globally, there were 14, 557 confirmed cases and one death as of February 2, 2020.13

January 22, 2020, China shut down all transport networks in and out of Wuhan — a city with a population of 11 million — in an effort to contain the spread of the disease.14

Elderly Appear Particularly Vulnerable
So far, most of those who have died have been elderly. As reported by the Foreign Policy Journal:15

"One puzzling aspect so far is the thankful lack of child victims. Usually, children, with less developed immune systems than adults, come down with one illness after another …

Yet few children have yet been reported with coronavirus symptoms. That does not mean that no children have been infected. A similar pattern of benign disease in children, with increasing severity and mortality with age, was seen in SARS and MERS.

SARS had a mortality rate averaging 10 percent. Yet no children, and just 1 percent of youths under 24, died, while those older than 50 had a 65 percent risk of dying. Is being an adult a risk factor per se? If so, what is it about childhood that confers protection?"

The Foreign Policy Journal goes on to suggest children may be protected by other vaccines given during childhood, such as the measles and rubella vaccines. It even goes so far as to wonder whether innate immunity against the coronavirus might be boosted in adults by giving them the measles vaccine.

If you ask me, that would be a significant long-shot. Vaccines have risks, so getting a vaccine on the remote chance that it might confer protection against a completely different infection than what it's designed for seems inappropriate in the extreme. As noted in the Washington Examiner:16

"Sending out coronavirus vaccines won't make sense unless the spread gets worse ... The bare facts, at least as far as anyone knows them yet, are that a global rollout of a coronavirus vaccine would kill some 7,000 people or so.

Of course, we're never going to get everyone vaccinated. And I'm guessing here, but that average death rate from vaccination, for all things, is one in a million.

Yes, that's including those influenza shots the old folks are abjured to get every winter — we know that some will die because of them. That we know this is exactly why we have the vaccine compensation program …

The … trade-off in this situation is how many we kill by giving them the vaccine, versus how many die without it? The coronavirus is simply not widespread enough yet to take the risk of jabbing everyone."

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Source of Novel Coronavirus Remains Unknown
Like other coronaviruses, such as the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) and the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), this new coronavirus (dubbed 2019-nCoV17), is suspected of being zoonotic, meaning it can be transmitted between animals and humans.

The disease itself has been named "novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia" or NECIP.18 As reported by CNN:19

"Both SARS and MERS are classified as zoonotic viral diseases, meaning the first patients who were infected acquired these viruses directly from animals.

This was possible because while in the animal host, the virus had acquired a series of genetic mutations that allowed it to infect and multiply inside humans. Now these viruses can be transmitted from person to person …

In the case of this 2019 coronavirus outbreak, reports state that most of the first group of patients hospitalized were workers or customers at a local seafood wholesale market which also sold processed meats and live consumable animals including poultry, donkeys, sheep, pigs, camels, foxes, badgers, bamboo rats, hedgehogs and reptiles."

However, while media have been quick to blame the outbreak on snakes20 and bat soup,21 as of January 22, none of the animals sold at the Wuhan Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market had been found to carry the virus.22

Meanwhile, a number of other reports cast a disturbing light on the outbreak, raising questions about biohazard safety at laboratories working with dangerous pathogens.

Season of Fear and National Budgeting Go Hand in Hand
Whatever the source, the hysteria being drummed up follows a now well-worn pattern where the population is kept in a perpetual state of anxiety and fear about microbes so that drug companies (aided by federal health officials) can come to the rescue with yet another expensive (and potentially mandatory) drug or vaccine.

Back in 2005, headlines warned the U.S. was facing a cataclysmic extermination event with a calculated 2 million Americans succumbing to the bird flu; the best-case scenario had a calculated death toll of 200,000. The same scare tactics were used during the 2009 swine flu outbreak.

Both pandemics turned out to be grossly exaggerated threats, but that didn't result in a more conservative, cool-headed approach to subsequent outbreaks. If anything, efforts to drum up fear and hysteria have only escalated.

In 2014, we were told Ebola might overtake the U.S. and then it was pertussis outbreaks.23 In January 2015, it was measles in Disneyland. In January 2016, it was zika, followed by more news about pertussis outbreaks.24 In 2017 and 2018 it was influenza,25 then back to measles again in 2019.26 Now we have coronavirus.

January and February appear to be a favorite time to launch a global disease scare with the dutiful assistance of corporatized media. It's convenient, seeing how usually by the first Monday in February every year (Feb. 3, 2020), the president sends the U.S. Congress the administration's budget requesting funds to be allocated to federal agencies for the next fiscal year's budget (Oct. 1, 2020 - Sept. 30, 2021).27

Each time there's a public health scare, the Pharma and public health lobby is able to vie for a larger slice of taxpayer money to pay for drug and vaccine development.28

January 23, 2020, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, announced a coronavirus vaccine is in the pipeline, with human trials set to start in about three months.29 Stock prices for makers of coronavirus vaccines experienced an immediate upswing30,31 in response to media reports of impending doom.

Moratorium on SARS/MERS Experiments Lifted in 2017
As mentioned, a number of reports raise questions about the source of the 2019-nCoV. For starters, a 2014 NPR article32 was rather prophetic. It discusses the October 2014 U.S. moratorium on experiments on coronaviruses like SARS and MERS, as well as influenza virus, that might make the viruses more pathogenic and/or easy to spread among humans.

The ban came on the heels of "high-profile lab mishaps" at the CDC and "extremely controversial flu experiments" in which the bird flu virus was engineered to become more lethal and contagious between ferrets. The goal was to see if it could mutate and become more lethal and contagious between humans, causing future pandemics.

However, for the past decade there have been red flags raised in the scientific community about biosecurity breaches in high containment biological labs in the U.S. and globally.33 There were legitimate fears that a lab-created superflu pathogen might escape the confines of biosecurity labs where researchers are conducting experiments. It's a reasonable fear, certainly, considering that there have been many safety breaches at biolabs in the U.S. and other countries.34,35,36,37

The federal moratorium on lethal virus experiments in the U.S. was lifted at the end of December 2017,38 even though researchers announced in 2015 they had created a lab-created hybrid coronavirus similar to that of SARS that was capable of infecting both human airway cells and mice.

The NIH had allowed the controversial research to proceed because it had begun before the moratorium was put in place — a decision criticized by Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at Pasteur Institute in Paris, who pointed out that "If the [new] virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory."39

Others, such as Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, agreed, saying "The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk."40

Wuhan Is Home to Lab Studying World's Deadliest Pathogens
In January 2018, China's first maximum security virology laboratory (biosecurity level 4) designed for the study of the world's most dangerous pathogens opened its doors — in Wuhan.41,42 Is it pure coincidence that Wuhan City is now the epicenter of this novel coronavirus infection?

The year before, Tim Trevan, a Maryland biosafety consultant, expressed concern about viral threats potentially escaping the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory,43 which happens to be located just 20 miles from the Wuhan market identified as ground zero for the current NCIP outbreak.44 As reported by the Daily Mail:45

"The Wuhan lab is also equipped for animal research," and "Regulations for animal research — especially that conducted on primates — are much looser in China than in the U.S. and other Western countries … But that was also cause for concern for Trevan.

Studying the behavior of a virus like 209-nCoV and developing treatments or vaccines for it requires infecting these research monkeys, an important step before human testing.

Monkeys are unpredictable though, warned [Rutgers University microbiologist Dr. Richard] Ebright. 'They can run, they can scratch they can bite,' he said, and the viruses they carry would go where their feet, nails and teeth do.'"

Coronavirus Outbreak Simulation Took Place in October 2019
Equally curious is the fact that Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation sponsored a novel coronavirus pandemic preparedness exercise October 18, 2019, in New York called "Event 201."46 The simulation predicted a global death toll of 65 million people within a span of 18 months.47 As reported by Forbes December 12, 2019:48

"The experts ran through a carefully designed, detailed simulation of a new (fictional) viral illness called CAPS or coronavirus acute pulmonary syndrome. This was modeled after previous epidemics like SARS and MERS."

Sounds exactly like NCIP, doesn't it? Yet the new coronavirus responsible for NCIP had not yet been identified at the time of the simulation, and the first case wasn't reported until two months later.

Forbes also refers to the fictional pandemic as "Disease X" — the same designation used by The Telegraph in its January 24, 2020, video report, "Could This Coronavirus be Disease X?"49 which suggests that media outlets were briefed and there was coordination ahead of time with regard to use of certain keywords and catchphrases in news reports and opinion articles.

Johns Hopkins University (JHU) is the biggest recipient of research grants from federal agencies, including the National Institutes of Health, National Science Foundation and Department of Defense and has received millions of dollars in research grants from the Gates Foundation.50 In 2016, Johns Hopkins spent more than $2 billion on research projects, leading all U.S. universities in research spending for the 38th year in a row.51

If research funded by federal agencies, such as the DOD or HHS is classified as being performed "in the interest of national security," it is exempt from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.52

Research conducted under the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) is completely shielded from FOIA requests by the public.53 Additionally, agencies may deny FOIA requests and withhold information if government officials conclude that shielding it from public view "protects trade secrets and commercial or financial information which could harm the competitive posture or business interests of a company."54

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services states that its mission is "to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S."55 Clearly, it will be difficult to obtain information about government-funded biomedical research on microbes like coronavirus conducted at major universities or by pharmaceutical corporations in biohazard labs.

How likely is it, then, that the coronavirus outbreak making people so sick today "suddenly" emerged simply because people ate bats and snakes in a Wuhan market? It looks more like a biosecurity accident but, until more is known, inevitably there will be more questions than answers about whether this latest global public health emergency is a more ambitious tactical "sand table exercise," echoing unanswered questions about the 2009 swine flu pandemic fiasco.

This time, there could be a lot more bodies left on the field, although some statisticians conducting benefit cost analyses may consider 65 million casualties in a global human population of 7.8 billion people56 to be relatively small when advancing medical research conducted in the name of "the greater good."

Signs and Symptoms of NCIP
According to the WHO, signs and symptoms of NCIP in its initial stages include:57

Fever
Fatigue
Sore throat
Shortness of breath
Dry cough
In more severe cases, the infection can lead to pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome and kidney failure.

Care Advice
WHO's "rapid advice note," detailing how to care for patients presenting mild symptoms of NCIP in the home can be downloaded here. Recommendations include:

Placing the patient in a well-ventilated room
Limiting the number of caretakers. Ideally, designate a healthy younger person who has no underlying risk factors to care for the patient (older people appear to be more susceptible to severe disease)
Keeping other household members in a different room, or keeping a distance of at least 1 meter (3.2 feet) from the patient
Limiting the movement of the patient and minimizing shared space. Make sure shared spaces such as kitchen and bathroom are well-ventilated by keeping the windows open
Instructions on protective gear, such as protective masks and gloves, and the safe handling and disposal of them are also detailed, as are special instructions for how to maintain good hygiene to prevent the spread of the virus throughout the home.

General recommendations for how to reduce your risk of contracting an infection at home, work or when traveling can be found on WHO's Novel Coronavirus Advice for the Public page.58

A key recommendation — which applies to all infections, both bacterial and viral — is to frequently wash your hands with soap and water. Also, be sure to cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing, and avoid close contact with anyone exhibiting symptoms of cold or influenza.

According to Peter Horby, professor of emerging infectious diseases and global health at the Centre of Tropical Medicine and Global Health at the University of Oxford, NCIP has the hallmark signs of "classic viral pneumonia," and since there are currently no antivirals available for NCIP, the focus of care is to support the lungs and other organs until the patient recovers.59

During this time, I recommend boosting your immune system with regular sensibly controlled sun exposure and, when unable to do that, taking oral vitamin D3. Adding liposomal vitamin C and quercetin supplements can also be helpful.

All three help protect against infections in general, and quercetin may offer benefits as a treatment for SARS coronavirus infections.60 According to a study61 in the Journal of Virology, "quercetin offers great promise as a potential drug in the clinical treatment of SARS." Resveratrol is another antioxidant that could be useful. It's been shown to inhibit MERS-CoV infection, at least in vitro.62

There are some events that happen, which are not in our control, but one thing we can do is learn how to better respond to bad news that causes stress, which can depress the immune system.

Living in a constant state of anxiety and fear is not healthy. Finding ways to lower stress through regular exercise, spending time in nature, practicing meditation and getting plenty of sleep on a daily basis all help optimize immune function and decrease the effects of stress that are all too often a part of our lives today."

[Bill Ryan]

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola:

Will Autophagy Protect Against Coronavirus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PjaylvwJoA cross-referencing note. In one sentence, Autophagy is the remarkable ability for any mammal's body to kick into emergency healing, and one of the things that triggers that is fasting. (This is why sick animals in the wild stop eating, to heal themselves.)

See this thread, where autophagy is discussed quite extensively, with many references and reported experiences:
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101104-Water-Fasting/page17)

Water Fasting (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101104-Water-Fasting/page17)

[onawah]

One thing the very thorough article by Dr. Mercola in post #403 did not mention is that Wuhan was one of the first 5 cities in China that were subjected to 5G.
See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100537-Stop-5G-before-it-s-irreversible-&p=1333209&viewfull=1#post1333209

[Sunny]

Nothing new for this fully compromised government (the U.S. et al), but try this from a ex-pat engineer LIVING IN CHINA:

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

It does make a good case that the United States may be responsible. But what if the California fires were caused by China? They are not natural either. I am not saying this to be anti-China. I am considering that perhaps there is a war going on and most people do not know.it.

[pathaka]

Will Autophagy Protect Against Coronavirus

No, no, no.

Slim hasn't looked at the genomic actions of 2019-nCoV.

- 2019-nCoV is very similar in it's action to SARS (with a few added bits).
- It does hijack autophagy and uses protease to break down actual cells, in order to get building blocks for it's self-replication. The anti-virals that work (HIV, SARS, etc) BLOCK this proteaze pathway, thus inhibiting autophagy (ORF 1ab)
- Some coronaviruses, like SARS at least activates master autophagy and use it to their advantage (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31231549)
- Further some coronaviruses (yet to be confirmed for 2019-nCoV) compromise autophagosomes, thus viral breakdown doesn't happen ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24991833 )
- 2019-nCoV has a feature that blocks the natural immune system from activating antibody production (ORF10)

Also, in healthy individuals, using an NSAID like aspirin, can actually trigger a cytokine storm, which may be lethal (as it was in the Spanish Flu).

[AuCo]

Nothing new for this fully compromised government (the U.S. et al), but try this from a ex-pat engineer LIVING IN CHINA:

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

It does make a good case that the United States may be responsible. But what if the California fires were caused by China? They are not natural either. I am not saying this to be anti-China. I am considering that perhaps there is a war going on and most people do not know.it.

On the other hand, the Epoch Times has a rather intriguing interview which gives you a broader perspective on how things are converging to this point: https://www.theepochtimes.com/did-the-chinese-coronavirus-start-as-a-bioweapon-program-the-china-report_3226019.html?utm_source=Epoch+Times+Newsletters&utm_campaign=b2687b151c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_02_04_10_32&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4fba358ecf-b2687b151c-238003213

[yuhui]

Since last week, I have been involved in several online volunteer groups in helping sending medical resources to Wuhan hospitals and hospitals in Hubei province, because most of the factories are on break during Chinese new year, the in stock medical supplies can't meet the current huge demand. Volunteers have been contacting factories abroad directly.

Alibaba just launched a Global Direct Sourcing Platform help fight the coronavirus crisis in China: https://www.aliwork.com/o/gsp/home?spm=a1zb10.13945529.0.0.6b4b78edkxAzWC&language=en_US&_locale_lang=en_US#/

Please give us a hand to fight against novel coronavirus. Suppliers from all over the world could quote relief goods on Alibaba Global Direct Sourcing Platform. Your support is greatly appreciated. More details please check the link.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Uh oh.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/did-chinas-tencent-accidentally-leak-true-terrifying-coronavirus-statistics

This is an indication that the real numbers in China are 10 times higher than the official numbers, which is consistent from reports on the ground and many impartial experts.

Just posting this for now, but really not good if true

[Tintin]

"I’m only telling you what I saw with my own eyes and what I personally heard from patients. The rumors online, there are too many online. I can’t talk about them here. You want rumors, go look on the internet. I met a man in his 40s who was on the verge of breaking down in front of me and crying. He said he had cough and fever for a whole week. “My younger brother has a fever so does my mother in law. A few days before the lockdown, I went and ate a meal with my whole extended family. I went to my mother in law’s house and ate a meal with them, too. I played mahjong with my old classmates. I was in contact with a dozen people. If I’m confirmed, what will happen to those a dozen people? My whole family is done for." This is what that patient told me in person.!

- Chen Qiushi, January 2020

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From Reddit, with a translation here of the video that follows: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ew2tjo/local_report_why_has_there_been_no_news_from/

Note: viewers using English as a first language will need to turn the subtitle feature on in 'Settings' on youtube.

Chen Qiushi: Wuhan is short of test kits, beds; the outbreak is serious

[extract from Reddit post:


"The reporters are too afraid to go on site...except this one brave soul, Chen Qiushi (陈秋实). He is in trouble with the CPC and risking his life (with the disease or getting captured) to report on the situation in Wuhan. Please cheer him on and support him!

His latest vlog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXozpbomAns

He has footage of a dead man sitting in a wheelchair in a Wuhan hospital in this video (Edit: this not the main point of his video but it is a piece of unique footage other than him just talking to show he actually went on site)." ]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU

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Avalon Library copy of transcript (http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Chen_Qiushi_Wuhan_is_short_of_test_kits_beds_the_o utbreak_is_serious.pdf)

[Delight]

On the other hand, the Epoch Times has a rather intriguing interview which gives you a broader perspective on how things are converging to this point: https://www.theepochtimes.com/did-the-chinese-coronavirus-start-as-a-bioweapon-program-the-china-report_3226019.html?utm_source=Epoch+Times+Newsletters&utm_campaign=b2687b151c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_02_04_10_32&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4fba358ecf-b2687b151c-238003213

ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION.

This discussion connects SO many dots for me including the push for mandatory vaccination of everyone in the States (and all over the west). I notice that the coasts of America are the most vulnerable when I see the general attemmpt to undermine the future of the US. WHAT SHOULD WE CITIZENS DO? I think a completely ruthless single minded and dedicated effort to destroy America using Corporate and government collusion is unfolding and this video explains a great deal of the mind set.

I think we all should WATCH IT and take it as a given!!!!!!!!!!!!

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China is IMO the face of the empathy free unscrupulous and capable force that has NO CONCEN for any human being. Read this article also....

The art of scientific deception: How corporations use "mercenary science" to evade regulation
David Michaels, former Assistant Secretary of Labor, explains how corporations whitewash harmful products and drugs

KEITH A. SPENCER
FEBRUARY 2, 2020 1:00PM (UTC) (https://www.salon.com/2020/02/02/the-art-of-scientific-deception-how-corporations-use-mercenary-science-to-evade-regulation/)

This is slightly off topic but strategic "war" is IMO at play and I am angry that we are in this mess because of our citizen cooperation (unwittingly maybe but still cooperation). This issue is happening when we in the states are fiddling around with the most STUPID internal issues, unwilling to look at REAL threats (like the toxins we eat, drink, breathe and inject) and allowing government cooperation in the destruction of a civilization that is democratic and free....

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[Dick]

https://www.brighteon.com/b0b9cd83-d97e-4681-a3c5-71f2c0a6607a

This is about the fake news and who will decide whats fake and whats not, in case of a world wide epidemic outbrake.
Must watch.

[Delight]

Dr Francis Boyle will be on Infowars.com (http://Infowars.com) tomorrow (5 Feb), in the second hour. :thumbsup:

(Infowars is on average about 3 or 4 days behind Project Avalon right now. :P )

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[TrumanCash]

I have been assisting in the ordering of a machine from a Chinese factory in Luohe, a city about two hundred miles north of Wuhan. The factory sales rep was emailed five days ago when they were supposed to return to work after the Chinese New Year. This factory rep has always answered emails within two days in the past and has been very helpful.

So far there has been no communication from this sales rep or other factory person. We have no idea now whether we will be able to get the machine which was paid for and was supposed to be ready to ship by now. I am sure that there are a lot of other people and companies having the same problem.

So I think whatever is happening in China (coupled with articles on ZeroHedge and other sources), it appears to be quite serious.

I will update this post as the situation develops.

[Sarah Rainsong]

What do you think?

Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths

(https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594)https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2020/02/05/1580900133-5e3a9f2567c51.jpg


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — As many experts question the veracity of China's statistics for the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Tencent over the weekend seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures.

On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker", showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.

Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day. Netizens noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics.

<more at link>

[Delight]

updates

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news from family in Ningbo China... stories indicating virus apparently very transmissible

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John Campbell education update

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Coronavirus Epidemic Update 11: Antiviral Drugs, Treatment Trials for nCoV (Remdesivir, Chloroquine)

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[Sarah Rainsong]

Thanks for adding the image, Bill!

[Delight]

House hearing on assessing coronavirus outbreak and response – 2/5/2020

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[onevoice]

According to China Global Television Network, or CGTN, Chinese researchers (https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-02-04/Researchers-find-two-drugs-that-can-effectively-inhibit-coronavirus-NOFpci7NJK/index.html) have found two drugs that look promising to inhibit the Coronavirus.


Researchers find two new drugs that can effectively inhibit coronavirus

Cao Qingqing

https://news.cgtn.com/news/326b7a4d3551544f3467544d7a596a4d3441444f31457a6333566d54/img/5779a84540114e71b11914ec5bb2cdca/5779a84540114e71b11914ec5bb2cdca.jpg
Li Lanjuan (C front), one of the most renowned epidemiologists in China, works with other doctors in Wuhan, central China's Hubei Province. /Photo via Changjiang Daily

The research team of Li Lanjuan, one of China's leading scientists in the fight against the novel coronavirus, announced a major breakthrough on Tuesday, China's Changjiang daily reported.

Preliminary tests showed that two drugs - Abidol and Darunavir – can effectively inhibit the virus in vitro cell experiments, according to Li, who is also a professor at Zhejiang University.

She has brought medical personnel from east China's Zhejiang Province to central China's Hubei Province, hoping to enhance the emergency treatment of newly-infected patients.

The professor said that the anti-HIV drug Kelizhi, which is currently being used, is not very effective and has side effects.

She recommended the two new drugs to be included in the National Health Commission's treatment program of the novel coronavirus-caused pneumonia.

Chen Zuobing, another scientist from the team, reminded the two drugs should not be taken without medical guidance.

Chen, who is also the deputy president of the First Hospital affiliated with Zhejiang University, said that the two drugs have been used in the treatment of patients infected by the virus in Zhejiang Province, and will replace other drugs with inferior effectiveness in the next step.

In an related article (https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-02-05/UK-scientists-Zavesca-is-expected-to-inhibit-the-novel-coronavirus-NQ3hj8Gvde/index.html), UK scientist has discovered that the Zavesca drug is expected to inhibit the novel Coronavirus:



UK scientists: Zavesca is expected to inhibit the novel coronavirus

By Lin Nan

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The World Laureates Association Shanghai Center research team discuss the novel coronavirus outbreak with Gavin Swinton (1st L), head of the Medical Sciences Division at the University of Oxford, and Raymond Dwek (2nd L), the director of the Oxford Glycobiology Institute, at the university in late January, 2020. /CGTN Photo

Scientists from the Oxford Glycobiology Institute has found that Zavesca, an iminosugar drug that has been on the market for nearly 20 years, as well as two other iminosugar drug molecules in clinical 2A trials – testing on real patients – for the treatment of hepatitis B virus, dengue virus and influenza virus, were expected to inhibit the novel coronavirus.

Mechanism of iminosugar drugs

Zavesca is transformed from iminosugar derived from natural plants, which has been successfully used worldwide for the treatment of Gaucher disease, an inherited metabolic disorder. The main mechanism of iminosugar drug molecules is to interfere with the production of new viruses in host cells, thereby destroying the virus. This mechanism would theoretically have the same effect on inhibiting the novel coronavirus.

The birthplace of this drug, the Oxford Glycobiology Institute, is a leading glycobiology institute in the world. Its director, Professor Raymond Dwek, has more than 20 years of experience in developing coronavirus control drugs. His team was the first to discover new replication and synthesis mechanisms of "enveloped viruses" such as coronavirus in host cells, and to develop a series of iminosugar inhibitors and drug molecules targeting key glucosidases in this mechanism. Based on this mechanism, broad-spectrum antiviral agents can be developed.

In addition to Zavesca, the iminosugar drug molecules of the hepatitis B virus, dengue virus, and influenza virus at the Institute have completed clinical 2A trials. If they are confirmed to be effective in the activity test of the novel coronavirus, a clinical treatment plan can be designed within one month under optimal conditions.

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International science community fight against coronavirus

Since the outbreak of the new coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, the World Laureates Association (WLA) Shanghai Centre has paid considerable attention to the epidemic by mobilizing its world laureates' network to fight against the epidemic with multiple strategies and channels.

In the field of global disease prevention and treatment, there are three main strategies for virus research:


Develop virus inhibitors for host cells' pathway targets during virus infection, survival, and replication
Develop virus inhibitors based on structural analysis and super-computing and simulation for the virus's targets
Develop specific neutralizing antibodies and virus vaccines against viral proteins


Nobel laureates in chemistry Roger Kornberg and Michael Levitt, noted antibody expert Richard Lerner and biologist Raymond Dewk, have offered help to investigate the virus and propose new solutions.

The WLA has been in touch with the heads of the aforementioned scientific research institutions, including the world's top virus laboratories, and nearly 10 scientists to conduct extensive and in-depth discussions on scientific research cooperation concerning disease prevention and treatment.

"They're willing to actively exert international scientific talent to support China in combating the epidemic," the center said in a statement this week.

[Delight]

Sharry Edwards has been extremely successful using sound frequencies. She is interviewed by Sarah Westall. I think she has decoded math patterns that go along with various viral frequencies.

Bioacoustics Solution, Frequencies Now Available, ManMade Dangerous Contagion w/ Sharry Edwards
Feb 3, 2020

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Sharry Edwards rejoins the program to discuss her latest analysis on the CoronaVirus. We discuss the fact that this virus was manmade as nature does not produce biomarkers of this consistency. Sharry also shares the progress made on finding the frequencies to combat the virus and when the sound file will be ready and made available to the public.

Sharry also shares with listeners the new voice analysis tool available to check your own readings for the coronavirus. Test yourself for the virus @ http://SoundHealthPortal.com

The self test could be used by medical facilities worldwide. This one tool could prove to the world that bioacoustics is the real deal. Facilities could compare results to their testing kits. If it proves itself to their satisfaction, imagine the time and costs they could save.

Information shared on the show: James Marshall article, HIV Charts, Below is the Le Ciel Music produced by James Marshall (MP3 version):

Use Up/Down Arrow keys to increase or decrease volume.

The direct link to the sound file is (maybe easier for you to download this way): https://media.blubrry.com/business_game_changers/content.blubrry.com/business_game_changers/Le_Ciel-mp3_version.mp3 (https://content.blubrry.com/business_game_changers/Le_Ciel-mp3_version.mp3)

Additional Articles from Sharry Edwards at the link here (https://sarahwestall.com/bioacoustics-solution-frequencies-now-available-manmade-dangerous-contagion-w-sharry-edwards/) pathogen article, a plague is upon us. edited, The potential of Math as Medicine – June 2019, Rife Frequencies


Le Ciel sounds really good to me...

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Never Before Released Information Revealed About The Coronavirus
Evidence shows there is a countervailing option to this virus that is being ignored but may help the populace if revealed.
Written by the Pioneer of Human BioAcoustics, Sharry Edwards, MEd. (https://soundhealthoptions.com/never-before-released-information-revealed-about-the-coronavirus/)

According to the media and world governments, a China based pandemic is upon us: the Coronavirus plague. The internet, newspapers and TV commentators have reported that millions will die. Using such scare tactics without providing any ameliorating tools or solutions is unethical, in my opinion. Positing that only the government can save the people is tantamount to tyranny. If there is a way to combat such a scourge, it ought to be made public.


Such is the topic of this article, that l hope will reach the World Health Organization and be used under the Unproven Intervention consensus.


Link: https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/statements/2014/ebola-ethical-review-summary/en/
In the particular circumstances of this outbreak, and provided certain conditions are met, the panel reached consensus that it is ethical to offer unproven interventions with as yet unknown efficacy and adverse effects, as potential treatment or prevention.


BACKGROUND: In 1996, Nexus Magazine published a paper from the Institute of BioAcoustic Biology & Sound Health reporting the outcomes of a project they conducted substantiating that frequency-based antidotes could combat resistant pathogens. If the process worked, it was speculated, SUPER BUGS could not remain a threat.


The article concluded: A variety of disease-causing pathogens and health problems can be identified and cancelled-out by the input of complementary frequencies and harmonics. See Exhibit 1.


In that article, titled Decloaking Resistant Pathogens, it was described that dark field microscopy of the blood was used to show that sound frequencies could break-away the “cloak” that pathogens use to actually “go stealth” within the body.


The low frequency sounds that were presented to the blood specimen did not kill the pathogens but rather removed the self-created, protein barriers that had been created by the invading pathogen. This allowed that the body’s own “killer cells” to respond to the assault. The Nexus article included screen shots from the video of the actual decloaking and the body’s attack of the pathogens. See Exhibit 2.


Article Links: http://cruinthe.tripod.com/nexus/articles/decloakingpathogens.html and https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud03.htm


Over the years, Sound Health used the same protocols to provide countervailing frequencies to the public for flu related issues. Listings of frequency-based antidotes for many flu varieties, fevers, anti-biotic resistant pneumonias, Epstein Barr, additional invading threats… were provided for public use. See Exhibit 3 .


A few years ago, BioAcoustic personnel noticed a change in the mathematical patterns of the recommended flu vaccines that we had created. The numbers were too perfect. They did not match nature’s germs and pathogens matrixes that had been previously created. The genes and protein antidotes were in conflict with each other and it was concluded that these frequency combinations were man-made. Nature-made pathogens have antidotes that are not harmonic. These current Corona Virus frequency antidotes show to be numerically harmonic; indicating probable human interference in their creation.


The virus’ BioAcoustic math pattern competed with the actual math correlates that has been targeted by conventional medicine to be a part of the healing process for this type of pathogen.


The Institute for BioAcoustic Biology has not tested anyone reported to be infected with the Coronavirus. The following information concerning the frequencies associated with the present threat are being reported based on extrapolation of previous data.


The Frequency Equivalents*™ for the Coronavirus overwhelmingly correspond to the body’s use of many aspects and variabilities of Glutathione, second only to Quercetin. Both show strong relationships with the immune system. The information below is for information purposes but shows definitive negative outcomes if not available to the body. See specific info on both below:


Sources: ONLINE
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Glutathione (GSH), an amino acid, is an antioxidant in plants, animals, fungi, and some bacteria and archaea. Glutathione is capable of preventing damage to important cellular components caused by reactive oxygen species such as free radicals, peroxides, lipid peroxides, and heavy metals.



Glutathione is involved in the detoxification of both xenobiotic and endogenous compounds. It facilitates excretion from cells (Hg), facilitates excretion from body (POPs, Hg) and directly neutralizes (POPs, many oxidative chemicals).



https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/proceedings-of-the-nutrition-society/article/glutathione-and-immune-function/39488A395CB25E88283204A938A4CBD9



The immune system works best if the lymphoid cells have a delicately balanced intermediate level of glutathione. Even moderate changes in the intracellular glutathione level have profound effects on lymphocyte functions. Certain functions, such as the DNA synthetic response, are exquisitely sensitive to reactive oxygen intermediates and, therefore, are favored by high levels of the antioxidant glutathione. Certain signal pathways, in contrast, are enhanced by oxidative conditions and favored by low intracellular glutathione levels. The available evidence suggests that the lymphocytes from healthy human subjects have, on average, an optimal glutathione level. There is no indication that immunological functions such as resistance to infection or the response to vaccination may be enhanced in healthy human subjects by administration of glutathione or its precursor amino acid cysteine. However, immunological functions in diseases that are associated with a cysteine and glutathione deficiency may be significantly enhanced and potentially restored by cysteine supplementation. This factor has been studied most extensively in the case of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected patients who were found to experience, on average, a massive loss of S equivalent to a net loss of approximately 4 g cysteine/d. Two randomized placebo-controlled trials have shown that treatment of HIV-infected patients with N-acetyl-cysteine caused in both cases a significant increase in all immunological functions under test, including an almost complete restoration of natural killer cell activity. It remains to be tested whether cysteine supplementation may be useful also in other diseases and conditions that are associated with a low mean plasma cystine level and impaired immunological functions.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3628138/

Recent evidence shows that subjects diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) have significantly lower levels of glutathione than typically developing children. The purpose of this study was to examine the use of two commonly used glutathione supplements in subjects diagnosed with an ASD to determine their efficacy in increasing blood glutathione levels in subjects.



There are a handful of foods that naturally contain glutathione, including asparagus, avocado, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, spinach, broccoli, garlic, chives, tomatoes, cucumber, almonds, and walnuts. However, a variety of factors can affect the levels of this vital nutrient, including storage and cooking.

Biochemical function from Wikipedia

Glutathione exists in reduced (GSH) and oxidized (GSSG) states. The ratio of reduced glutathione to oxidized glutathione within cells is a measure of cellular oxidative stress.[9][10] In healthy cells and tissue, more than 90% of the total glutathione pool is in the reduced form (GSH), with the remainder in the disulfide form (GSSG). An increased GSSG-to-GSH ratio is indicative of oxidative stress.

In the reduced state, the thiol group of cysteinyl residue is a source of one reducing equivalent. Glutathione disulfide (GSSG) is thereby generated. The oxidized state is converted to the reduced state by NADPH. This conversion is catalyzed by glutathione reductase:

NADPH + GSSG + H2O → 2 GSH + NADP+ + OH–

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The immune system works best if the lymphoid cells have a delicately balanced intermediate level of glutathione. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11115795


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With Quercetin being a powerful flavonoid, there is a wide range of health benefits, including its ability to reduce inflammation, eliminate pain, protect against cardiovascular diseases, act as an anti-cancer, boost the immune system, reduce histamines, and decrease irritation of the skin.



Research suggests that adding quercetin to the diet may help to relieve allergy symptoms. Research reports that quercetin can have anti-allergic and antihistamine properties. … Quercetin is naturally present in many foods and herbs, including: apples. Oct 8, 2018



Quercetin is the most abundant flavonoid in the diet. It’s estimated that the average person consumes 10–100 mg of it daily through various food sources. Foods that commonly contain quercetin include onions, apples, grapes, berries, broccoli, citrus fruits, cherries, tea, and capers. Jun 27, 2019



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The Flavonoid Quercetin Inhibits Proinflammatory Cytokine (Tumor Necrosis Factor Alpha) Gene Expression in Normal Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells via Modulation of the NF-κβ System



The flavonoids comprise a large class of low-molecular-weight plant metabolites ubiquitously distributed in food plants. These dietary antioxidants exert significant antitumor, antiallergic, and anti-inflammatory effects. The molecular mechanisms of their biological effects remain to be clearly understood. We investigated the anti-inflammatory potentials of a safe, common dietary flavonoid component, quercetin, for its ability to modulate the production and gene expression of the proinflammatory cytokine tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNF-α) by human peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC). Our results showed that quercetin significantly inhibited TNF-α production and gene expression in a dose-dependent manner. Our results provide direct evidence of the anti-inflammatory effects of quercetin by PBMC, which are mediated by the inhibition of the proinflammatory cytokine TNF-α via modulation of NF-κβ1 and Iκβ. American Society for Microbiology https://cvi.asm.org/content/13/3/319.abstract

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These two immune supporting nutrients can be found in common foods and at your local health food store. The many deviations of nutritional glutathione support might point to the need for Reduced Glutathione. Coronavirus seems to be presenting these Superbugs as well as suppressing the immune system concurrently.


Additional Frequency Equivalents associated with the Coronavirus include:


-Inhibitor of T-cell activation
-Ovulation regulation
-Carbon monoxide
-Several 911 toxins
-Pituitary Gene and stem Cells
-Hemolysis gene deficiency
-A component of fuel products
-Mitochondrial enzyme’s, ATP, carbon Disulfide
-Iron regulation
-Nagalase
-Arachidonic Acid
-Eye Proteins
-Cholesterol metabolism
-Several vertebrae, C-4 and S-4
-Histamine
-Choline
-Stress Response gene


It has been reported on a recent podcast that this virus is actually pneumonic plague. The BioAcoustic Frequencies don’t match with pneumonic but are closely associated with Influenza B. See Exhibit 3 for pneumonic information


Other on line suggestions: Enhancing the Ph of the body using sodium bicarbonate, magnesium chloride, selenium and iodine all of which can be applied at high dosages to head viruses off at the pass before they take hold and choke a person to death. All of these medicines can be administered at home safely and legally and one does not need a prescription because they are nutritional in nature, not pharmaceutical.


Epilogue


BioAcoustic Biology uses a three-prong approach to pathogen invasion. Identification, Formulation and Sound Presentation. This author wishes to provide a public online Sound Health WorkStation for people who want to evaluate themselves for the nutrients mathematically associated with the Coronavirus – SoundHealthPortal.com – CAMPAIGNS.


The opportunity is offered to the public free of charge and will provide a computerized report as to each individual’s Corona Conflicts based on the Institute’s decades of inquiry.


We previously posted our findings in terms of Rife Frequencies but there is much more to the story. Rife devices usually provide one frequency channel to the listener and the sounds are usually within vocal range.


We use a multi-channeled device, a programmable, Square 2 ToneBox, that delivers two frequencies simultaneously designed to entrain the brain to deliver the sounds to the appropriate body system.


Think of your brain as you central processing unit that sends and receives signals for all parts of the body. We strive to provide frequencies that support normal form & function. The data is overwhelming supportive of the idea that the voice is a holographic representation of all that you are. We have simply provided the clues as to what each frequency represents.


More people have Rife devices; hence we provided Rife-like formulations for public display. But BioAcoustic sound presentation takes into consideration many different formulations depending what system and what issues are being addressed for a client.


In 2004, the institute published this tenet: People with similar diseases, maladies, syndromes, traumas… have similar, if not identical vocal anomalies.


Since then many prestigious organizations, like MIT and the Mayo Clinic are now using vocal anomalies in search of a basis for frequency-based medicine.


Estimates now are that the field is worth many billions and a considerable boon to SELF-HEALTH.


Each frequency that is found to be anomalous (out-of-coherence) with the rest of the body’s math can be used to support health & wellness. The Institute doesn’t not have all of the answers but we have enough to know that Math as Medicine is an upcoming reality.

Addendum

When I wrote this article, it was with prevention in mind. We now need to present the BioAcoustically decoded frequencies to countervail the Coronavirus Proteins to the public.

Since more people have Rife-like devices rather than BioAcoustic devices, we are presenting this to the public in Rife terms, although most all of our studies have used BioAcoustic devices to substantiate our protocols.continued (https://soundhealthoptions.com/never-before-released-information-revealed-about-the-coronavirus/)

[Innocent Warrior]

What do you think?

Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths

(https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594)https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2020/02/05/1580900133-5e3a9f2567c51.jpg


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — As many experts question the veracity of China's statistics for the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Tencent over the weekend seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures.

On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker", showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.

Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day. Netizens noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics.

<more at link>

I can only speak english, so I was relying on the translations on the videos, but the picture that emerged from watching videos that were posted on social media from Wuhan is that the government policies ensure that they control the official figures. According to those videos, the hospitals only admit as many cases as they have beds for and won’t diagnose outpatients. Pretty compelling information once you’ve seen enough videos, each citizen a source independent from each other, collectively painting the one, coherent picture.

I went back to Twitter to find a couple of examples. I don’t know how to embed tweets but the first link contains a video of a very distressed lady in the street, desperately shouting out for help because her mother was dying at home after she couldn’t get anyone to treat her because there were no hospital beds.

The second link contains a video of two people in a clinic angrily discussing the government, one of them is obviously a medical worker, she discusses the situation and mentions government policies and how they can’t diagnose outpatients. You don’t see the people in the video, the medical worker apparently doesn’t realise she’s being recorded and she really lets it rip (recommended viewing). She also complains that the patients who die in that clinic are stored in the emergency ward and that there’s only one mortuary in the whole city who takes them, so they’re stored there too long, and that the bodies decay more rapidly due to the virus. Centralising the cremation of the bodies also facilitates control of the stats and doesn’t make sense otherwise, in light of the medical worker’s complaint.

https://twitter.com/CriticalCezanne/status/1224347382126497792

https://mobile.twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1225202270783959040

Then there’s THIS (https://www.businessinsider.com.au/wuhan-coronavirus-75k-infected-doubling-every-64-days-lancet-says-2020-1?r=US&IR=T) Business Insider article on the Lancet journal’s study. From that article (emphasis mine) -

“The true number of people infected with the deadly Wuhan coronavirus is more than 75,000, according to a scientific model, which claims the official number for those infected is far too low.

Academics at the University of Hong Kong published a paper on Friday in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, estimating the rate at which the virus is spreading.

It used official data on the number of infections to calculate what it said was the true extent of the disease – almost 100 times the official figures.

Underpinning the analysis is the idea that the number of international cases is disproportionately high given the number of people who travel from Wuhan to other countries.

The academics used the international figures to reverse-engineer a total for the number of cases among greater Wuhan’s population of around 19 million.

They said that, as of January 25, they estimated that the number of cases was 75,815.

According to CNN, the official total on January 25 for the whole of Hubei province, which includes greater Wuhan, was 761, barely 1% of the total projected by the scientists.

The paper is not the first to suggest that the official figures do not adequately capture the scope of the outbreak. A paper from Imperial College London published on January 17 suggested that the figures were too low by a factor of 35.

As part of their model, the Hong Kong academics predicted that the scale of the virus would double every 6.4 days. By that logic, the number of people in greater Wuhan with the virus as of this Friday (January 31) would be 151,630.”

Er, so say the Tencent screenshot from Feb 1 shows the real figures, that makes the scientific model very accurate. Quite the coincidence in figures there otherwise.

[ExomatrixTV]

Jim Humble: Corona Virus ... February 6th, 2020
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Jim Humble is known for his MMS: Miracle Mineral Solution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement)

Becky Dorius [quote]: "Loved Bill Ryan's interview with Jim, years ago. Thank you Jim for showing up again, much love and appreciation for all you do". [unquote].

Ian Jacklin [quote]: "Jim Humble is amazing. He saved tribes of people in Africa of malaria and hiv. There was an amazing documentary with him and the red cross experiment. How he cured everyone of everything but the red cross stopped it and had him run out of town! This guy is a hero!" [unquote].

Rahim Petsch [quote]: Hello Jim. Rahim here from South Arica (Rev.Dr.MMS) Haven't heart your voice for a long time. MMS is going strong here and I had an endless stream of success with the healing of so many light and heaviest illnesses over the last nearly 14 years. God bless you. [unquote].

Matrix Abandoned and Dissolved [quote]: "I couldn't order Jim's book fast enough. Great information that everyone should have. I'm added this book to my natural healing library. I don't trust doctors, hospitals or the death care system. Thanks, Kerry! [unquote].

Jim Humble interviewed by Bill Ryan (Jan 2010) : a Project Avalon Video
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Project Camelot interviews Jim Humble, the man behind MMS: Mineral Mineral Supplement ... Sasbachwalden, Germany, November 2008
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If you study Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement) about MMS you only see the establishment & big pharma attacking this cure as if it is the worst poison you can get ... the fear monger done by so called (corrupted?) "government authorities" is really over the top, as I have used MMS too years ago with NO "horror results" described by Wikipedia!

I wonder if the NWO Depopulation Agenda is so real they blatantly lie to prevent people to live longer!

Sometimes it looks like they assume you better off dying so that it fits in their "responsible science" narrative ... than living "scientific irresponsibly" much much longer.

I wonder if people in the year 2200 knows all lies & deceptions sold by mega corporations & so called "government authorities" like the FDA in the 20th & 21th Century using any means necessary to manipulate the masses for "the greater good" blah blah following amongst others the Georgia Guidestones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones) 'Utopian' NWO Agenda!

cheers,
John Kuhles
February 6th, 2020

[Tintin]

I can only speak english, so I was relying on the translations on the videos, but the picture that emerged from watching videos that were posted on social media from Wuhan is that the government policies ensure that they control the official figures. According to those videos, the hospitals only admit as many cases as they have beds for and won’t diagnose outpatients. Pretty compelling information once you’ve seen enough videos, each citizen a source independent from each other, collectively painting the one, coherent picture.

I went back to Twitter to find a couple of examples. I don’t know how to embed tweets but the first link contains a video of a very distressed lady in the street, desperately shouting out for help because her mother was dying at home after she couldn’t get anyone to treat her because there were no hospital beds.

The second link contains a video of two people in a clinic angrily discussing the government, one of them is obviously a medical worker, she discusses the situation and mentions government policies and how they can’t diagnose outpatients. You don’t see the people in the video, the medical worker apparently doesn’t realise she’s being recorded and she really lets it rip (recommended viewing). She also complains that the patients who die in that clinic are stored in the emergency ward and that there’s only one mortuary in the whole city who takes them, so they’re stored there too long, and that the bodies decay more rapidly due to the virus. Centralising the cremation of the bodies also facilitates control of the stats and doesn’t make sense otherwise, in light of the medical worker’s complaint.

https://twitter.com/CriticalCezanne/status/1224347382126497792

https://mobile.twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1225202270783959040

Then there’s THIS (https://www.businessinsider.com.au/wuhan-coronavirus-75k-infected-doubling-every-64-days-lancet-says-2020-1?r=US&IR=T) Business Insider article on the Lancet journal’s study. From that article (emphasis mine) -

“The true number of people infected with the deadly Wuhan coronavirus is more than 75,000, according to a scientific model, which claims the official number for those infected is far too low.

Academics at the University of Hong Kong published a paper on Friday in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, estimating the rate at which the virus is spreading.

It used official data on the number of infections to calculate what it said was the true extent of the disease – almost 100 times the official figures.

Underpinning the analysis is the idea that the number of international cases is disproportionately high given the number of people who travel from Wuhan to other countries.

The academics used the international figures to reverse-engineer a total for the number of cases among greater Wuhan’s population of around 19 million.

They said that, as of January 25, they estimated that the number of cases was 75,815.

According to CNN, the official total on January 25 for the whole of Hubei province, which includes greater Wuhan, was 761, barely 1% of the total projected by the scientists.

The paper is not the first to suggest that the official figures do not adequately capture the scope of the outbreak. A paper from Imperial College London published on January 17 suggested that the figures were too low by a factor of 35.

As part of their model, the Hong Kong academics predicted that the scale of the virus would double every 6.4 days. By that logic, the number of people in greater Wuhan with the virus as of this Friday (January 31) would be 151,630.”

Er, so say the Tencent screenshot from Feb 1 shows the real figures, that makes the scientific model very accurate. Quite the coincidence in figures there otherwise.

Yes, quite the coincidence indeed. Thanks for that excellent work there.

/1224347382126497792

1225202270783959040

[ExomatrixTV]

I survived Mad Monkey Cow Pox Disease, the Swine Flu, Bird Flu, SARS, MERS, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, Justin Bieber, and so far, Gruesome Greta Thunberg. I'll be fine. I'm just sitting back, watching the David Icke show.

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The Coronavirus - David Icke
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[mountain_jim]

Late to this thread, did not see this, but here Joseph P Farrell weighs in with Epstein connection:

https://gizadeathstar.com/2020/02/wuhan-and-harvard-and-jeffrey/?fbclid=IwAR2wrQdxiFrkaAtIUf-JlPMjiD4gb92IERDSdBhdt27ymHyXyJR2R1qEsW4



WUHAN AND HARVARD… AND JEFFREY

I'm constantly amazed at the information that people email to me, but this one is a whopper doozie spotted by V.S. I've already blogged about the arrest of Dr. Charles Lieber of Harvard, and about this strange tie to the Wuhan University of Technology. But there's more lurking in the background of that Harvard connection than meets the eye, and I just have to share this one:

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…

There you have it. So it's important to review what this article is saying: Dr. Lieber worked at the same university as Drs Church and Nowak, both known associates of Jeffrey Epstein and recipients of his largesse. Given the nature of their work, it strains credibility to assume that Lieber was unaware of their work or they of his. They are, after all, all faculty members working in more or less the same broad discipline. As they article makes clear, all were working in aspects of modifying biology and doing genetic engineering, all areas of obvious biowarfare implications. All of this raises some intriguing high octane speculations and questions:

1) Why would professors, who are recipients of government funds for research, also take private funding in the millions from Epstein? Did they need it? And was Epstein in fact laundering money for other interests in sponsoring this research? And does that mean that their are private interests trying to obtain a biowarfare capability? Their taking of Epstein money on an individual basis was quite probably entirely innocent. But it's the overall pattern of a Harvard connection that I find highly odd.

2) Do these questions in their turn indicate that all of China is being turned into a biowarfare, economic warfare, and social engineering experiment?

In respect to these questions, the article itself asks a highly pertinent question regarding Dr. Lieber toward the end of the piece:
Why would someone (Lieber) getting $10 million plus from the U.S. funding agencies go through the hassle of setting up a secret lab in another country and risk his entire life's work for less money. What was he doing there exactly?
Indeed, and for whom was he really doing it? China? Harvard? Some private international interest?

Like the author of the article, I eagerly await for more details to come out. In the connection to the idea of some private international interest however, I'm reminded of a detail that occurred prior to 9/11, when Russian economist Dr. Tatiana Koryagina mentioned in Pravda, prior to the events of 9/11, that the US would shortly be attacked on its own soil by a private group with assets in the trillions of dollars. Recently, Harvard took its funding entirely black, and I have to wonder, in the light of this article, if it is one of the crucial "fronts" or "nodes" for some sort of private network. Would it be involved in such activities as a massive social engineering experiment?

Well, as I detailed with co-author Gary Lawrence in our book Rotten to the (Common) Core, another Harvard chemist - indeed, a former president of the institution - comes to mind: Dr. James Conant Bryant, and with him, the answer to that question is a resounding yes.
See you on the flip side...

[King Arthur]

They show a guy coughing up blood on a train....these poor people....

This is from Mike Adams, The Health Ranger:

https://www.brighteon.com/f3a6f314-e83a-4f86-a941-f9acd2bc0e82

f3a6f314-e83a-4f86-a941-f9acd2bc0e82



Well, Robert Steele is questioning Mike Adam's agenda
https://phibetaiota.net/2020/02/robert-steele-china-coronavirus-my-appraisal/

Is Mike Adams a Zionist Agent?

We are doubling down on the Wuhan virus as a Zionist attack on China. Mike Adams of Natural News, has put out a headline we consider to be absolute total bull**** and therefore more than likely an indicator that he is a Zionist media asset. Wuhan is at the intersection of biological warfare, electromagnetic warfare, and information warfare. China is under attack. We urge our President to consult with the General Secretary and give China the benefit of the doubt.

A few years ago, I noticed a little spate between Dane Wigington of chemtrail fame and Mike Adams. In the comments on Dane's chemtrail website, someone urged DW to get in touch with Mike Adams who was saying that he tried but failed to make contact with DW so they can debate some point re: chemtails. I don't follow DW's work so I don't know what happened after that, if anything.....

[King Arthur]

From Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/05/my-bottom-lines-on-the-china-epidemic/

My bottom lines on the China epidemic

Judging from the history of epidemics that turned out to be duds—West Nile, bird flu, SARS, Swine Flu, and so on—and judging from my research on these frauds—I see no reason to jump the gun and say, “This one is different.”

Every time one of these threatening clouds passes across the sun, all sorts of people in both the mainstream and alternative press make dire predictions, ranging from “this looks like a global pandemic,” to “the virus is a bio-weapon and will kill millions,” to the ever-popular, “this is THE BIG ONE.”

And then, when the dust clears, and the dud is exposed, amnesia about having made those predictions sets in.

Now we have a variety of people claiming they know the Chinese coronavirus is a bio-weapon....

in past articles, I’ve detailed how, in the cases of SARS and 2009 Swine Flu, the purported viruses seemed to disappear. That is, they couldn’t be found in patients. Yet, reported case numbers of the “virus epidemics” continued to expand. One very real possibility looms: the researchers never actually found, located, isolated, and identified these viruses in the first place. Therefore, any published genetic sequences of these viruses were .... entirely irrelevant.

And therefore, to infer from those genetic sequences that such chimerical viruses were actually bio-weapons…well, that would be miles off the mark.

THE VIRUS is a fake propaganda idea that has traditionally been used to cover up vast crimes and the destruction of human life in ways that have nothing to do with germs. THE VIRUS is one of the greatest cover stories ever invented. I’ve explained how propaganda about viruses is made to stand in for corporate and government crimes that make people sick and kill them: contaminated water supplies; lack of basic sanitation; giant toxic agricultural farms; industrial poison-pollution; hunger; starvation; protein-calorie malnutrition; fertile farm land stolen from native people by corporations and governments; toxic medical drugs and vaccines; and now, in Wuhan and other Chinese cities, unprecedented mixtures of toxic air pollution, causing lung damage. The basic theme is: DON’T LOOK AT ALL THOSE CRIMES, JUST FOCUS ON THE VIRUS AS THE ONLY PROBLEM. This is sheer invention.

I documented the astounding fraud perpetrated by the CDC in 2009, when the overwhelming percentage of tissue samples from so-called Swine Flu patients revealed they didn’t have ANY KIND OF FLU. And the CDC went on to estimate there were 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US in 2009.

The most widely used tests used to diagnose and label people as “case numbers of the virus” and “sick” and “infected” are inherently flawed.



These guys are hyping this coronavirus to the rafters.
Sigh...
When they put on such theatricals, we should be very careful not to jump to the conclusions which they are drawing for us.
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2020/01/coronavirus.html


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_TQHv7qkm9Q/XjUgYVnMi8I/AAAAAAAAuyw/Qw86Fcfika4MCeWEikFwEi7fSbEYFP7AACLcBGAsYHQ/s400/Coronavirus%2Bbus%2Bdriver.jpg


Above, in the UK, we see people suspected of maybe having the coronavirus being taken on coaches to Arrowe Park Hospital on the Wirral near Liverpool.

On the coaches, the specialists are wearing hazmat suits but the bus drivers are not wearing hazmat suits.

Coronavirus UK: Brit bus driver completely unfazed next to man in hazmat suit.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4I4NzVJiINI/XjU5HwqsBZI/AAAAAAAAuzI/g593MumjMkUjEGiKzI-VvWym6aTszbg1gCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/Coronavirus%2Bbus%2Bdriver%2B2.jpg

Jane Godman, from the Wirral, wrote on Twitter, 'Decision to have a coronavirus quarantine centre at Arrowe Park Hospital on the Wirral is bizarre.

'One of the busiest hospitals in the North West, with a maternity unit, in a built up area, 170 miles from where the Wuhan plane lands. Who decided this and why?'



This is possibly a big reason for the hype (besides causing grievious harm to China and the Chinese)- to corral the sheep into the vaccination pens

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/06/new-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna/
New vaccines will permanently alter your DNA

[King Arthur]

http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness/

Is The “Coronavirus” Actually Microwave Illness?

http://www.radiationdangers.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Screen-Shot-2020-02-01-at-2.12.06-PM-768x494.png

Notice how all of these people have their faces in their phones. These people believe that wearing masks will protect them from this impending “viral” threat. Yet, in Truth, their radiation-emitting devices will not only weaken their immune systems and make them more vulnerable to becoming deathly ill, but these very same devices may be at the root of growing health concerns that are occurring around the world.

I surmise that what actually might be occurring in China has nothing to do with the coronavirus at all (especially since the coronavirus has been around for decades and is listed in medical literature as nothing more than the common cold).

Rather, any illnesses in China may actually be related to radiation sickness being brought on by the 5G rollout now being streamlined in Wuhan and other parts of China.

The mainstream media and the powers-that-shouldn’t-be will never tell us the Truth about this. ...

... here’s a comment I recently made on a youtube video that is being censored…

Since 5G frequencies are known to negatively effect the absorption of oxygen in the cells and the body (see here and here);

and since all of the symptoms they are reporting are also listed as the very same symptoms associated with “microwave sickness” (i.e., radiation illness which can be induced from exposure to all wireless devices, including 4G devices — see here http://www.radiationdangers.com/microwave-sickness/);

and since “the flu” and microwave illness share many of the same symptoms (see here: http://www.radiationdangers.com/microwave-sickness/the-flu-and-microwave-sickness-share-many-of-the-same-symptoms/);

and since “the flu” has been shown to NOT be the result of a “virus” but rather an electrically-induced disease (see Arthur Firstenberg’s book, “The Invisible Rainbow”);

it is a fair estimation to assume that wherever 5G is being rolled out, people are going to rapidly become deathly ill. Wake up people. The entire wireless grid is designed to destroy us. They will blame these radiation-induced illnesses on a variety of things, but one thing they will not do is tell you that your devices and your entire wireless society are the problem. You have to figure this out on your own.

Please see my book for much more information about this: https://www.birthofanewearth.com/1/paperback-release-the-dark-side-of-prenatal-ultrasound/

People wearing masks is obviously not going to protect them from radiation-induced illnesses. Avoidance of radiation and/or radiation-shielded clothing are the only things that work.

[TrumanCash]

I have been assisting in the ordering of a machine from a Chinese factory in Luohe, a city about two hundred miles north of Wuhan. The factory sales rep was emailed five days ago when they were supposed to return to work after the Chinese New Year. This factory rep has always answered emails within two days in the past and has been very helpful.

So far there has been no communication from this sales rep or other factory person. We have no idea now whether we will be able to get the machine which was paid for and was supposed to be ready to ship by now. I am sure that there are a lot of other people and companies having the same problem.

So I think whatever is happening in China (coupled with articles on ZeroHedge and other sources), it appears to be quite serious.

I will update this post as the situation develops.

UPDATE: We finally got an email from the sales rep we have been dealing with at the Chinese machinery factory:



"Sorry to reply you late.

Because the China special time, we extend our holiday, plant to back office on 10th this month. When we start work, we will arrange the goods as soon as possible.

Sorry the special time cause inconvenience for you."

I wonder if they are required by the government to use the euphemism "special time" to refer to whatever is going on in China.

[Innocent Warrior]

Thanks for embedding the tweet, Tintin.

I couldn’t see a link to the Tencent counter anywhere in that news article, here it is for anyone interested -

https://news.qq.com/zt2020/page/feiyan.htm#rumor

Translated (some) -

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.qq.com%2Fzt2020%2Fpage%2Ffeiyan.htm%23rumor


https://i.postimg.cc/zXm8B6yF/452-B987-D-8565-40-F3-AE92-B100-C303-ECCC.jpg (https://postimg.cc/14KL7Wc8)

[King Arthur]

Well, Robert Steele is questioning Mike Adam's agenda
https://phibetaiota.net/2020/02/robert-steele-china-coronavirus-my-appraisal/

Is Mike Adams a Zionist Agent?

We are doubling down on the Wuhan virus as a Zionist attack on China. Mike Adams of Natural News, has put out a headline we consider to be absolute total bull**** and therefore more than likely an indicator that he is a Zionist media asset. Wuhan is at the intersection of biological warfare, electromagnetic warfare, and information warfare. China is under attack. We urge our President to consult with the General Secretary and give China the benefit of the doubt.

A few years ago, I noticed a little spate between Dane Wigington of chemtrail fame and Mike Adams. In the comments on Dane's chemtrail website, someone urged DW to get in touch with Mike Adams who was saying that he tried but failed to make contact with DW so they can debate some point re: chemtails. I don't follow DW's work so I don't know what happened after that, if anything.....

There's an addendum to Robert Steele's article:

Alert Reader reports: Adams is married to a Taiwanese citizen from a wealthy family; he met her while studying in Taiwan and reportedly speaks Chinese. He is a self-promotoer, loves money, wants to be a guru — he may not be inherently evil but struck people who got to know him as being easily compromisable.

[King Arthur]

[
UPDATE: We finally got an email from the sales rep we have been dealing with at the Chinese machinery factory:



"Sorry to reply you late.

Because the China special time, we extend our holiday, plant to back office on 10th this month. When we start work, we will arrange the goods as soon as possible.

Sorry the special time cause inconvenience for you."

I wonder if they are required by the government to use the euphemism "special time" to refer to whatever is going on in China.

Chinese New Year is a special time. Workers travel very far to get home to celebrate what is the most important event of the year. That may even be the only holiday they get in the year. It's not unusual for factories to close down for 2 weeks. The workers come from far flung corners of rural China - they travel a helluva long distance to get home. Do you think they'll spend a long weekend there and take another 2+ days to get back to work? Look, over here in the UK, no work gets done between Christmas and the New Year.

[onevoice]

"I’m only telling you what I saw with my own eyes and what I personally heard from patients. The rumors online, there are too many online. I can’t talk about them here. You want rumors, go look on the internet. I met a man in his 40s who was on the verge of breaking down in front of me and crying. He said he had cough and fever for a whole week. “My younger brother has a fever so does my mother in law. A few days before the lockdown, I went and ate a meal with my whole extended family. I went to my mother in law’s house and ate a meal with them, too. I played mahjong with my old classmates. I was in contact with a dozen people. If I’m confirmed, what will happen to those a dozen people? My whole family is done for." This is what that patient told me in person.!

- Chen Qiushi, January 2020

-------------------------------------------------------

From Reddit, with a translation here of the video that follows: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ew2tjo/local_report_why_has_there_been_no_news_from/

Note: viewers using English as a first language will need to turn the subtitle feature on in 'Settings' on youtube.

Chen Qiushi: Wuhan is short of test kits, beds; the outbreak is serious

[extract from Reddit post:


"The reporters are too afraid to go on site...except this one brave soul, Chen Qiushi (陈秋实). He is in trouble with the CPC and risking his life (with the disease or getting captured) to report on the situation in Wuhan. Please cheer him on and support him!

His latest vlog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXozpbomAns

He has footage of a dead man sitting in a wheelchair in a Wuhan hospital in this video (Edit: this not the main point of his video but it is a piece of unique footage other than him just talking to show he actually went on site)." ]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU

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Avalon Library copy of transcript (http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Chen_Qiushi_Wuhan_is_short_of_test_kits_beds_the_o utbreak_is_serious.pdf)

My wife is from Taiwan. She has relatives living there. I shared this Chinese guy's video to my wife's relatives there in Taiwan. After seeing this, my wife's niece told us that this guy works for the Chinese government, so is probably a disinformation agent of China. When a plane load of Taiwanese people left China recently for evacuation to Taiwan, China allowed several Chinese people infected with Coronavirus on the plane which landed in Taiwan. Most likely the purpose of this guy's video is to make it believable as he tells his story in an emotional and credible way.

However, I believe the real situation is much worse that the picture he paints. Also my wife has seen some alternative media experts in Taiwan discussing the possibility that China may have engineered the Coronavirus to attack Taiwan. As many members here may be aware, China has been on relentless campaign to integrate Taiwan into China despite Taiwan's protest. In the recent presidential election there was numerous of significant evidence of China illegally interfering with the election process. The main opposition candidate Han Kuo-yu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Kuo-yu) had clear ties to China. After only a few months of being a mayor of a southern city in Taiwan, he ran for presidency of Taiwan. In every debates and interviews Han Kuo-yu was not very articulate in his response, and usually would either resort to have one of his aide respond or he would deflect the questions and spew out hateful diatribe.

[Tintin]

That's really very interesting onevoice.

Does your wife's niece have any concrete information to back up her assertion that you can share here at all? It may be important as another piece to add to the story. You have to admit if this video is a disinformation exercise, then, unless I'm missing something, its aim is somewhat vague.

All the boots-on-the-ground footage seems pretty genuine to me.

[onevoice]

That's really very interesting onevoice.

Does your wife's niece have any concrete information to back up her assertion that you can share here at all? It may be important as another piece to add to the story. You have to admit if this video is a disinformation exercise, then, unless I'm missing something, its aim is somewhat vague.

All the boots-on-the-ground footage seems pretty genuine to me.
Tintin, I agree with you that the boots-on-the-ground footage he included seems genuine. My wife only told me that her niece said the guy works for the Chinese government. Perhaps the purpose of his video is to let people have a sense of many hardships that people are going through, which is genuine, while not mentioning the true depth of the hardships and the true rate of fatality from the virus. The article about Tencent (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594) briefly reporting much higher 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths than the official reported numbers is probably closer to the truth. This article (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3872448) reports that true number of Coronavirus infections in Wuhan could be 300,000.

My wife will ask her niece tomorrow for any concrete evidence of the guy working for the Chinese government. I googled the guys name, and all the results indicates he's been an advocates for everyday citizens and reporting on the many hardships that the Chinese citizens face. So far, the role of this guy being a disinformation agent is just her opinion and not verified.

[Bill Ryan]

updates

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Enormous kudos to Chris Martenson here. :highfive: The guy deserves a medal for this. Do watch.

He's been booted off Wikipedia (where he did have a page, as he's a research doctor with a PhD who'd submitted papers to scientific journals, including the uber-prestigious Nature). But now Wikipedia took his page down, simply because of this series of coronavirus videos.

Go figure what's happening here.

Martenson deals with this in the most impressively magnanimous manner, showing the highest integrity, and only for a few minutes. One might imagine if the same thing happened to David Wilcock, he'd have made a 2 hour monetized self-pitying video all about it, blaming the Dark Alliance, headed by Stina Bo Bina (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108968-Stina-Bo-Bina-a-star-is-born--). :)

[Bill Ryan]

http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness (http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness/)

Is The “Coronavirus” Actually Microwave Illness?No, of course not. There's a real virus. You can see it under an electron microscope. And you can't infect others in different countries or on a cruise ship with no 5G exposure, with 'microwave illness'.

Of course, 5G saturation might well have weakened the immune systems of millions of people in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. But that's a different topic.

[Dick]

My brother lives in china for about 10 years now.
His wife is chinese, and they have 2 kids. His wifes family is in the area where the outbreak started, and they planned to go there for chinese new year, but didn’t when this all started.
The went to Thailand and could stay in a house from a friend, and wanted to go back to their hometown; Guang Zhou, but decided to not to do that, because of a possible lockdown there too. So now they decided to come to my hometown and wait till things get better in china. I see them next week when they arrive at the airport, and will keep you updated here if she knows more from her family and what realy is going on there.

[James Newell]

Well, Robert Steele is questioning Mike Adam's agenda
https://phibetaiota.net/2020/02/robert-steele-china-coronavirus-my-appraisal/

Is Mike Adams a Zionist Agent?

We are doubling down on the Wuhan virus as a Zionist attack on China. Mike Adams of Natural News, has put out a headline we consider to be absolute total bull**** and therefore more than likely an indicator that he is a Zionist media asset. Wuhan is at the intersection of biological warfare, electromagnetic warfare, and information warfare. China is under attack. We urge our President to consult with the General Secretary and give China the benefit of the doubt.

A few years ago, I noticed a little spate between Dane Wigington of chemtrail fame and Mike Adams. In the comments on Dane's chemtrail website, someone urged DW to get in touch with Mike Adams who was saying that he tried but failed to make contact with DW so they can debate some point re: chemtails. I don't follow DW's work so I don't know what happened after that, if anything.....

There's an addendum to Robert Steele's article:

Alert Reader reports: Adams is married to a Taiwanese citizen from a wealthy family; he met her while studying in Taiwan and reportedly speaks Chinese. He is a self-promotoer, loves money, wants to be a guru — he may not be inherently evil but struck people who got to know him as being easily compromisable.

Let us not forget Steele is an "Ex" cia agent. A 'good one' of course. He was also quite responsible for the interview with Alex Jones where HE talked of enslavement camps on Mars. He was never mentioned but they always blame Jones for saying that and used it as an excuse to take him off the internet. Now Steele is dissing Mike Adams, frankly Adams is a renaissance man inho. It always seems too convenient to say someone is a zionist/ mossad agent if they don't like what they are saying, especially the neonazis like to push that.

I do admit he could have stepped into it on the percentages of illness/death re this virus. I do hope it isn't 10% deadly. I am sure he will apologize if he is wrong and be very glad he was wrong. But the math says it could be as high as 15% deadly which is about what the Spanish Flu was in 1918-19. Millions died back then. And that was not a sophisticated created bio weapon. Or was it?

[frankstien]

(full article here)
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2020/02/06/full-article-benjamin-fulford-2-3-20-huge-anti-china-campaign-mounted-after-secret-talks-fail/

1st excerpt--

"Huge anti-China campaign mounted after secret talks fail

By Benjamin Fulford February 3, 2020

A massive hybrid warfare attack has begun on China following the
failure of negotiations between Eastern and Western secret societies,
sources close to the negotiations say. The attack on China is using a
combination of bio-weapons, propaganda and economic warfare according
to multiple sources. This campaign is being conducted in tandem with
an effort to create mass starvation in India and Africa. This is the
response of the U.S. Corporate government after it failed to find
financing for a January 31st international payments deadline,
according to European royal family sources.

The attack on China shows many signs of advanced planning. First of
all, the new coronavirus hitting China is definitely a bio-weapon.
Researchers in India have identified HIV insertions in the
coronavirus that could only have been put there intentionally.
CIA-linked doctors say the insertions were made so a fruit bat virus
would be contagious to humans.

Meanwhile, Chinese doctors have discovered the coronavirus is
designed to attach to lung receptors that are five times more common
in Asian males than in African or Indo-European males. Asian females
also have less than half the amount of these receptors than Asian
males.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

“They already knew this was coming. It’s the Nipah virus, and guess
what, WHITES are essentially immune because we have the
acetylcholinase inhibitor against the virus. They KNOW it’s Nipah.

The **** is going to hit the fan once people know the mortality
rate,” the CIA doctor bragged. Below are some links sent by the CIA
doctor.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/
335187960_Potential_novel_inhibitors_against_emerging_zoonotic_pathogen_Nipah_virus_a_virtual_screen ing_and_molecular_dynamics_approach (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335187960_Potential_novel_inhibitors_against_emerging_zoonotic_pathogen_Nipah_virus_a_virtual_screen ing_and_molecular_dynamics_approach)

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/viral/model-predicts-bat-species-potential-spread-nipah-virus-india.

In case you have any doubts this attack was planned well in advance,
take note of this CNN article trying to pin the blame on China;
specifically the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadly-coronavirus-actually-be-a-man-made-killer-disease (https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadly-coronavirus-actually-be-a-man-made-killer-disease/)

“The Wuhan Biotech Company logo is the same as the Umbrella Biotech
Company logo from the Resident Evil series. (There are nocoincidences in our world),” our CIA sources note.""

2nd Excerpt

"So now let us take a dose of reality. So far, as this blog was about
to go public, there have been 17,205 confirmed cases of the virus and
361 fatalities in China. That is about a 2% mortality rate, lower
than regular influenza, which has a mortality rate of about 13%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

To put that in perspective, in January of 2019 alone 608,000 people
caught regular influenza in China. Meanwhile, in the U.S., 80,000
people died of influenza in 2018. So, how come there was no panic
media coverage over these much larger pandemics?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/last-years-
flu-broke-records-for-deaths-and-illnesses-new-cdc-numbers-show/
2018/09/26/97cb43fc-c0ed-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/last-years-flu-broke-records-for-deaths-and-illnesses-new-cdc-numbers-show/2018/09/26/97cb43fc-c0ed-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html)

This headline from the Rothschild controlled AP says it all: “Fears
of new virus trigger anti-China sentiment worldwide.”

https://apnews.com/04f18aafe1074a1c06b4203edcbdc661

The reason, of course, is because this fear campaign is linked to an
economic campaign aimed at isolating China. U.S. Commerce Secretary
Wilbur Ross (child) has come right out and said the coronavirus will
help the U.S. economy noting:

“It does give business another thing to consider when they go through a review of their supply chain. On top of all the other things – you had SARS, you had the African swine virus there, now you have this – it’s another risk factor that people need to take into account...I think it will help to accelerate the return of jobs to North America, some to the U.S. and some to Mexico as well.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wilbur-ross-says-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-will-help-bring-jobs-back-america

The campaign against China also involves canceling airline flights
into that country and evacuating non-Chinese from China.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-outraged-world-cancels-flights-and-shut-borders-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

There are also signs the Americans are getting ready to use their
long-standing threat to cut off China’s oil. This was seen in an
attack against an oil tanker off the coast of the United Arab
Emirates.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-navy-confirms-incident-coast-uae-oil-tanker-burns

The Chinese have been building up overland pipelines and stocking up
on oil with just such a scenario in mind. That is why Chinese oil
demand has dropped by 20% since the latest hybrid warfare attack on
their country began.

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/economy/china-oil-demand-has-plunged-20-on-wuhan-virus-lockdown-biggest-shock-since-global

However, ominously for the Chinese, the reaction of the Russians
shows that if push comes to shove, they are going to ally with their
fellow Europeans. The Russians have closed their land border with
China and stopped train traffic in response to this so-called
pandemic.

https://tass.com/society/1115523

At the same time, the U.S. is ostensibly making massive preparations
for war against Russia but insiders know this is really part of joint
Russian/U.S. preparations for war against China.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-cold-war-back-focus-iran-military-
prepares-war-russia-1485088 (https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-cold-war-back-focus-iran-military- prepares-war-russia-1485088)

The Chinese are not stupid and know they are being attacked. So what
is a Chinese counter-attack likely to be like? Previously, senior
Chinese told me they have contingency plans that would let them
occupy India, the Korean Peninsula and South East Asia (minus
Vietnam) in a matter of weeks. Also, they have identified the slave
regime of Shinzo Abe in Japan as a weak link. They could easily
decapitate his regime with an overnight campaign of assassinations.
It is likely that around the world many top Khazarian mafia bosses are suddenly going to start dying.""

(full article here)
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2020/02/06/full-article-benjamin-fulford-2-3-20-huge-anti-china-campaign-mounted-after-secret-talks-fail (https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2020/02/06/full-article-benjamin-fulford-2-3-20-huge-anti-china-campaign-mounted-after-secret-talks-fail/)

[James Newell]

Here is a great video that nails the Coronavirus down as a bio weapon. Appears the Chinese ripped it off from a university in Canada. It was accidentally released in Wuhan at one of their bio weapon labs.

I put forth a thought: Wonder if they, the Communist Chinese with a poor human rights record, intentionally released it into their populace, would there be any strategy to that? Evil is the hardest thing to confront, the bad guys know things like that. That's how they get away with things. What ever happened to the riots going on in Hong Kong? Seems no problem now to taking people and putting them in isolation now(jail).

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e3b1a7c259a4a001cd8db67

[onawah]

Coronavirus Vaccines on Fast Track as WHO Declares Global Public Health Emergency
by Rishma Parpia and Barbara Loe Fisher
Published February 5, 2020
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/02/coronavirus-vaccines-on-fast-track-as-who-declares-global-public-health-emergency/

"A novel strain of a coronavirus (2019-nCoV) was first detected in the city of Wuhan, China on December 31, 2019 and, by the middle of January, thousands of Chinese citizens were sick. According to Johns Hopkins University Center for Science and Engineering, as of Jan. 30, 2020 there were 217 deaths among 9,776 confirmed coronavirus cases, with 92 of the cases identified in 20 countries other than China, including six cases in the U.S.1 On Jan. 30, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the novel coronavirus outbreak that began in Wuhan and spread to many cities in China to be a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern.”2 By Feb. 6, there had been 28,353 cases confirmed worldwide, including 12 in the U.S., and 565 deaths had been reported with all but two occurring in China.

Public health officials believe the origin of the outbreak can be traced to an unsanitary food market in Wuhan where live seafood, reptiles, animals and birds were sold for human consumption.3 The market was shut down the next day by health authorities.3 The WHO says the evidence suggests people consumed infected bats and snakes from the Wuhan market,4 but exactly which animal is the primary source of the outbreak is still not known.5 6

What is Coronavirus?
The WHO describes coronaviruses (CoV) as a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe infectious diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV)7 The new coronavirus (2019-nCoV) strain identified by health authorities has not been previously identified in humans.

Coronaviruses are zoonotic, which means they infect and can be transmitted between animals and humans.7 Investigations have found that SARS-CoV was transmitted from civet cats to humans and MERS-CoV from dromedary camels to humans. There are several known coronaviruses circulating in animals that have not yet infected humans.7 Since health officials have not identified this latest strain in humans before, they have given it generic name of “a novel coronavirus” while investigations continue.3

The China coronavirus infection resembles viral pneumonia or influenza and common signs include fever, chills, sore throat, headache, muscle aches and respiratory symptoms such as cough and breathing difficulties. According to the CDC, “The complete clinical picture with regard to 2019-nCoV is still not fully clear. Reported illnesses have ranged from infected people with little to no symptoms to people being severely ill and dying.”8 Individuals can be incubating the infection for 10 to 14 days before symptoms begin, although it is unclear whether they are infectious during this time period.9 CDC reports that, “Typically, with most respiratory viruses, people are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest). With 2019-nCoV, however, there have been reports of spread from an infected patient with no symptoms to a close contact.”10

Like with influenza, the majority of are recovering but in some cases, the new coronavirus infection can cause complications like pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and death.7 Reportedly, the preliminary fatality rate associated with 2019-nCoV is about three percent but it appears to be higher in those over age 50, who have accounted for the majority of deaths in China.11 Older age groups are also at risk for complications of SARS and MERS, as well as influenza.

China Confirms Virus Can Spread From Human to Human
Initial reports out of China that the virus was unlikely to spread between humans were proven to be inaccurate as more and more cases were confirmed by Chinese and international health authorities.12 Early news reports, such as one where a patient was suspected as having infected as many as 14 medical staff in one hospital, gave evidence for the infection being spread more easily than initially thought.13

The U.S Centers for Disease and Prevention (CDC) states that much is unknown about how the novel 2019-nCoV spreads.14 Current knowledge is primarily based on what is known about similar coronaviruses. Most often transmission from person-to-person happens among close contacts (about 6 feet).

Person-to-person transmission is thought to occur mainly via respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes, similar to how influenza and other respiratory infections spread.12 These droplets can potentially land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. It is currently unclear if a person can get 2019-nCoV by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes.12

Wearing masks to prevent transmission of 2019-nCoV may or may not work, depending upon the type of mask and how it is handled or if the virus can be contracted through eye exposure with infected droplets.15 The CDC is recommending frequent hand washing with soap and water for at least 20 seconds to help prevent transmission of this and most other infections.

High Level Biohazard Lab Opened in Wuhan in 2018
There have been several media reports stating that the outbreak may have originated from a laboratory that is part of China’s covert biological weapons program. The laboratory known as Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is the only declared site in China that permits working with deadly viruses.16

Dr. Dany Shoham, a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide from 1970 to 1991 said that, “Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment.”13 China has denied having or developing any dangerous biological weapons.

All researchers in the Wuhan high containment laboratory must change their clothing upon entering the facility, shower upon exiting and decontaminate all of the materials used during experimentation. Laboratory members wear full-body, pressurized suits to isolate themselves from the surrounding environment. The laboratory itself must be held in a separate building or an isolated wing within the surrounding university and must be supplied with its own air filtration and decontamination systems.17

Over the past decade, there have been a number of reported security breaches in high containment biohazard labs around the world, including in the U.S., where bioterrorism and vaccine researchers are experimenting with lethal microbes and developing genetically engineered viruses and new vaccines.18 19 In 2014, the U.S. issued a temporary moratorium on U.S. funded research conducted in labs where scientists create more dangerous mutated forms of the SARS, MERS and influenza viruses that have the potential to start global pandemics in human populations if they escape from the labs.20 21 In 2017, that moratorium was lifted and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services resumed funding researchers creating lab altered viruses that could spread quickly through human populations.22

Simulated Coronavirus Pandemic Exercise Held in October 2019
The Center for Health Security at John Hopkins University has a fictional pandemic simulation program to prepare communities for biological threats, pandemics and other disasters.23

On October 18, 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level simulated coronavirus pandemic exercise in New York City.15 The exercise pointed out areas where international public/private financial partnerships will be required to respond to a pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal impact on countries around the world.15

Participants in Event 201 were dropped in the middle of an uncontrolled novel coronavirus outbreak that was spreading like wildfire in South America and causing worldwide havoc.15 As fictional newscasters from “GNN” narrated simulated events, the immune-resistant virus (nicknamed CAPS) was crippling trade and travel, sending the global economy into free-fall. Social media was rampant with rumors and misinformation, governments were collapsing and citizens were revolting.15

Those participating in the New York City pandemic simulation included a large group of public policymakers, pharmaceutical companies such as Johnson & Johnson; mainstream media outlets like NBC/Universal, business leaders and government health officials. Event 201 provided them with an opportunity to evaluate disaster response systems and whether current systems are strong enough or need to be expanded.15

Dr. Eric Toner, senior scholar with the Center for Health Security said, “Once you’re in the midst of a severe pandemic, your options are very limited. The greatest good can happen with pre-planning.”15

Coronavirus Vaccines Are Being Fast Tracked
In response to the coronavirus outbreak in Asia, drug companies and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have begun working on a 2019-nCoV vaccine that will be fast tracked to licensure.24 Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases has said that it would take a few months until the first phase of the clinical trials begins and more than a year until a vaccine might be available.16

Dr. Fauci stated that, “When we were dealing with SARS, we developed monoclonal antibodies as potential therapeutics.”25 He added that, “Given the somewhat close homology between SARS and the new novel coronavirus, there could be some cross-reactivity there that could be utilized.”17"

References:


2019-nCoV, Barbara Loe Fisher, CDC, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, China, coronavirus, CoV, Johns Hopkins University Center for Science and Engineering, MERS, MERS-CoV, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, National Vaccine Information Center, NVIC, Rishma Parpia, SARS, SARS-CoV, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, The Vaccine Reaction, WHO, World Health Organization, Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, Wuhan virus

Great comments from readers starting with this one:
Maverick
February 6, 2020 at 10:12 am
"who didnt see this coming, Bill gates is involved again and his scam foundation…….release the problem create the ‘solution’ force it on society and then act like he saved the world. What is the betting this will the start of worldwide mandatory vaccines. The story will be that the vaccine saved the world from certain doom and this has been proven and there is no debate so the governments worldwide will no longer see the reason to not vaccinate so from now on everyone will have to get all vaccines or will be breaking the law. I saw this coming as soon as this was released on the public and make no mistake about it, this is a manmade virus because it supposedly has some of the HIV make up in it. All these viruses and diseases coming out recently the bird flu SARS et all have patents (i dont even know why viruses are allowed to be patented unless of course they are manmade there is the clue because the whole point of all of these synthetic drugs are they cannot patent nature)

We are living in really corrupt times this is the beginning of forced mass vaccination i pretty mch guarantee it, it is soooooooo obvious it is sickening they are barely even trying to hide it anymore. They best watch out because if this is what they want to do there is a saying ‘live by the sword, die by the sword’ "

[Bill Ryan]

sQlEpu_HsWEAt 18:00, they discuss the 1999 Chinese document titled Unrestricted Warfare. For reference, that's here:



http://avalonlibrary.net/Qiao_Liang,_Wang_Xiangsui_Unrestricted_Warfare_1999/Qiao_Liang,_Wang_Xiangsui_Unrestricted_Warfare_1999.pdf

Search for "Unrestricted Warfare" (in quotes, to preserve the phrase as a search term), and it's been referenced in a number of Avalon posts over time.

[pyrangello]

Watched the video above Bill, yes the chinese government do things much differently than the rest of the world, they answer to NOBODY. It is very tough to digest their motives and hold onto them when you don't grow up in their country. That being said when we scan stories at www.bigwobble.com to www.halturnerradioshow.com to www.zerohedge.com all I want to say is WTF. Nobody has a handle on this . And there's so much distrust in this world with world government's , vaccines, and elected leaders (not all), cdc . You really don't know who to believe. That story from Fulford, one line did stick out was that this is keeping quiet due to govt purchasing supplies which coincides from our Avalon member from Kentucky about trying to buy masks. But there are plenty of places to buy masks as this point, so here we go again, who's bs ing who? All of us as a human population want to protect our families, but then there is the backlash too, AH your being paranoid, another conspiracy theory, and on and on. I'm still sticking by the being prepared motto of the boy scouts , and if you don't want to entertain the thought , oh well. But boy it gets frustrating not knowing the lineup of the football team your playing when there is no consistency of the information being released.

[Delight]

Watched the video above Bill, yes the chinese government do things much differently than the rest of the world, they answer to NOBODY. It is very tough to digest their motives and hold onto them when you don't grow up in their country. That being said when we scan stories at www.bigwobble.com to www.halturnerradioshow.com to www.zerohedge.com all I want to say is WTF. Nobody has a handle on this . And there's so much distrust in this world with world government's , vaccines, and elected leaders (not all), cdc . You really don't know who to believe. That story from Fulford, one line did stick out was that this is keeping quiet due to govt purchasing supplies which coincides from our Avalon member from Kentucky about trying to buy masks. But there are plenty of places to buy masks as this point, so here we go again, who's bs ing who? All of us as a human population want to protect our families, but then there is the backlash too, AH your being paranoid, another conspiracy theory, and on and on. I'm still sticking by the being prepared motto of the boy scouts , and if you don't want to entertain the thought , oh well. But boy it gets frustrating not knowing the lineup of the football team your playing when there is no consistency of the information being released.

I absolutely agree with your analysis in the post. I feel very disheartened by the

"here we go again, who's bs ing who? All of us as a human population want to protect our families, but then there is the backlash too, AH your being paranoid, another conspiracy theory, and on and on."

[bettye198]

A lot of research went into this thread. Even I, as a retired nurse, want it simply explained. LOL. Since viruses are a bag of RNA I have to wonder -- lets go back to science -- how many countless RNA's are in our body and then we have the treatment theories. My husband tried to explain to me using visuals of the virus and what is around it and all the variables. Too much for my brain but what I do understand is that how on earth can anyone be tested without labs and incubation periods? Those poor people on the cruise ships quarantined for 14 days? Well, if they don't get something they don't want, they will in that kind of crowded environment! I think of the poor Irish in tenement houses change of century in Ireland when 10,000 people succumbed to TB in the city of Dublin- mostly children!! ( post 1929 Depression). I see people with masks and unless they are a very certain type of mask, it is futile. This much I know, you have to have a very strong immune system to combat any bug. I had to frequently work in isolation settings with mask gown and gloves and using chemical washes as well. Reverse isolation was protecting the patient from YOU. Kudo's to my immune back when I was young and vital. Today, a different story with most people. I see where all this is going. Terrorize to such a degree that the people will fight for a vaccine and there you have it. A weaponized vaccine to really bring you down. Will there be whistleblowers to reveal the true ingredients of that vaccine? The set up in airbuses, trains, cruise ships, schools, ground buses, all manner of transport will be a testament to all the contagion movie films of the past 10 years. It will eventually be like MRSA or VRSA where the strain is so resistant to any known antibiotic and then we have the true story of there is no antibiotic for viruses. Logical minds must know this and truly this one piece of knowledge has mandated my own family to raise its immune system, the strongest weapon against viruses.

[Delight]

http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness (http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness/)

Is The “Coronavirus” Actually Microwave Illness?No, of course not. There's a real virus. You can see it under an electron microscope. And you can't infect others in different countries or on a cruise ship with no 5G exposure, with 'microwave illness'.

Of course, 5G saturation might well have weakened the immune systems of millions of people in Wuhan and other Chinese cities. But that's a different topic.

This new video from Peak Prosperity is really clear that the disease progression is extended for those who have complications. This sounds like an infectious disease NOT microwave but yes, I doubt 5G is helping one iota.

I really feel for the people in quarantine but it seems necessary. From my experience it really could overwhelm the system in the US if 25% have complications.

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More info on clinical course of known cases. Again the complications are seen later (around a week).

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[Agape]

Wuhan hospital announces death of whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/06/asia/li-wenliang-coronavirus-whistleblower-doctor-dies-intl/index.html)

Peace and freedom to the brave and pure spirit of self-less service to humanity


🙏🌟🙏

[Hughe]

Hospital or death camp of the infected patients?
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[Innocent Warrior]

(full article here)
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2020/02/06/full-article-benjamin-fulford-2-3-20-huge-anti-china-campaign-mounted-after-secret-talks-fail/

1st excerpt--

"Huge anti-China campaign mounted after secret talks fail

By Benjamin Fulford February 3, 2020

[...]

In case you have any doubts this attack was planned well in advance,
take note of this CNN article trying to pin the blame on China;
specifically the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadly-coronavirus-actually-be-a-man-made-killer-disease (https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadly-coronavirus-actually-be-a-man-made-killer-disease/)

“The Wuhan Biotech Company logo is the same as the Umbrella Biotech
Company logo from the Resident Evil series. (There are nocoincidences in our world),” our CIA sources note."

Not a CNN article, it’s C-C-N.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Latest from Lisa Haven... heading a bit dramatic but copied and pasted

“100 BODIES A DAY” SAYS CORONAVIRUS CREMATORIUM INSIDER! ACCIDENTAL LEAK YOU NEED TO HEAR!

https://lisahaven.news/2020/02/100-bodies-a-day-says-coronavirus-crematorium-insider-accidental-leak-you-need-to-hear/

Viking

[betoobig]

here go my two cents... no one will be talking about this in one month... i have spoken
much love

[wondering]

betoobig, Wow, I hope you are right. It just doesn't sound like something that is going to go away that quickly. From your lips to God's ear, as they say!!! Diane

[pyrangello]

https://thecommonsenseshow.com/conspiracy-health-martial-law/new-coronavirus-statistics-are-far-worse-feared
New Coronavirus Statistics Are Far Worse Than Feared

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-thermal-drones-scan-21442224

China deploys thermal drones to scan villagers for coronavirus from the skies


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIanyffoVjg&feature=youtu.be


BREAKING!! CHINESE PRESIDENT GOES UNDERGROUND! SELF-QUARANTINE BUNKER!!! (SHARE EVERYWHERE)

From Me- During the Black Plaque most of the wealthy people and rulers of the earth made it thru the pandemic, why? Because they stayed in hiding while this ran thru there area. They sent out there servants to obtain all supplies thus creating a barrier from infection. If this story continues to hold water about the president of china , this would say volumes without saying a word, we will see.

[Bill Ryan]

here go my two cents... no one will be talking about this in one month... i have spoken
much loveI think it may be important to keep a healthy balance between idealism, optimism, and reality.

That's why you check the oil levels in your car (or you certainly should! :) ), and have a spare tire with you at all times. It's also why you look both ways before crossing the street, and don't just stride out into the traffic hoping for the best.

And why, presumably, you lock the doors on your house at night.

Life is all about managing risk — in tiny ways, and major ways. Managing risk is what's slowly starting to happen on a global scale (too slow, it might be argued), and why there's quite a lot of chaos as countries and authorities view the risk in different ways.

What does seem to be a reality is that the risk is considerable. It's not a matter of asking: "What's the problem? Millions die of regular flu every year." It's about projecting into the future.

The current officially stated case statistics are 31,500 as of last night US and EU time. From WuFlu.live (http://WuFlu.live):

http://projectavalon.net/WuFlu_confirmed_coronavirus_cases_6_Feb_2020.gif

No big deal, one might think. But the numbers are doubling every 4 days. A kid with a calculator can see that unchecked, this means a quarter of a million cases by 18 February, in 11 days time.

And considering the broad agreement that the numbers are under-reported by China by a factor of 10 (or very likely more), the real numbers may be 2.5 million by another 11 days. (And, do the math a second time: that means over 100 million by the end of the month, with true fatality numbers of 2 million or more, with no end in sight.)

And that's not even starting to think about the effect on global travel and trade, and the effects on supply chains worldwide.

It's the world's factory that's shutting down. That affects everyone on the planet. And these are real people suffering, a very great deal, just like you and me. People may very well be talking about all this, quite a lot, for quite a while.

[onevoice]

Zerohedge reports (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/more-400-million-people-lockdown-guangzhou-joins-quarantine) that about 400 million people are currently in lockdown in China. Guangzhou City (population: 14 M), the capital of China is added to the list of cities in lockdown. So the situation seems to be getting out of hand for China while it is grossly misrepresenting the truth.

A Stunning 400 Million People Are On Lockdown In China As Guangzhou Joins Quarantine

by Tyler Durden
Fri, 02/07/2020 - 07:59

Guangzhou, the capital of China's southwestern Guangdong Province and the country's fifth largest city with nearly 15 million residents, has just joined the ranks of cities imposing a mandatory lockdown on all citizens, effectively trapping residents inside their homes, with only limited permission to venture into the outside world to buy essential supplies.

The decision means 3 provinces, 60 cities and 400 million people are now facing China's most-strict level of lockdown as Beijing struggles to contain the coronavirus outbreak as the virus has already spread to more than 2 dozen countries.

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That's more than 400 million people forcibly locked inside their homes for 638 deaths? Just think about that: If there was ever a reason to believe that Beijing is lying about the numbers (and not just because Tencent accidentally leaked the real data), this is it.

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Meanwhile, in the US, the Trump Administration has directed researchers to investigate the 'true origins' of the virus, as 'conspiracy theories' and misinformation spreads online. We can't help but wonder: What if the scientists discover something that the regime in Beijing doesn't want them to see?

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Elsewhere, Singapore raised its national disease response level to Orange, the second-highest level and the same level from the SARS epidemic, according to the city-state's health ministry. It also confirmed three new coronavirus cases. While investigations are ongoing, none of the three appear to have a history of recent travel to China, suggesting they picked up the virus in Singapore.

'Orange' means the outbreak "is severe and spreads easily from person to person" but "has not spread widely in Singapore and is being contained," according to the Disease Outbreak Response System Condition color-coded framework. Singapore has never invoked its highest level, red, per BBG.

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Foreigners are complaining that the new hospitals in Wuhan are merely 'quarantine centers' without any medical resources.

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Yesterday, Beijing argued that the virus outbreak had 'peaked' as they cited a drop in the rate of new infections. However, others have suggested that the rate of new confirmed cases has more to do with Beijing's limited resources.

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The WHO said during a press conference on Thursday that it's too early to claim that the outbreak has peaked, even as the outlook for the global economy falls off a cliff.

[onevoice]

Official Chinese announcement (http://m.xinhuanet.com/gd/2020-02/07/c_1125542462.htm) about Guangzhou City lockdown (translated by Google):

Guangzhou Issues No. 3 Epidemic Prevention Circular

2020-02-07 14:38:53 Source: Southern Network

At noon on February 7, the Guangzhou City Pneumonia Epidemic Prevention Command for New Coronavirus Infection issued the No. 3 Circular on Further Strengthening Community and Rural Epidemic Prevention and Control, which requires the concentration of culture and entertainment in the village living room. Places are always closed. All residential communities (villages) in the city are closed. Strengthen the management of people (vehicles) access, and restrict non-owners (villages) owners, residents or users and vehicles from entering the property management area. All entrances and exits shall be provided with prevention and control card points, and resident personnel shall enter and exit with their credentials and perform temperature monitoring.

　　The circular also requires that enterprises, institutions, rental house owners or other house lessors must implement their responsibilities for prevention and control. Enterprises, institutions, and owners of rental housing are responsible for the management of related personnel, and the management of rental housing is directly responsible.

　　The full text of the announcement is as follows:

　　Pneumococcal Disease Command of Guangzhou City for Prevention and Control of New Coronavirus Infection

　　Notice on epidemic prevention and control (No. 3)

　　In order to do a good job in epidemic prevention and control, to effectively protect the lives and health of the people, and to safeguard public interests, in accordance with laws and regulations such as the Law of the People's Republic of China on Infectious Disease Prevention and Control and the Law of the People's Republic of China on Emergency Response, The first-level response requirements for major public health emergencies are hereby notified as follows:

　　First, citizens must do their own protection. Citizens should wash their hands frequently, go out less, do not walk in, do not get together, do not gather meals, wear masks in and out of public places. All gathering places such as culture and entertainment in the village are closed.

　　2. All residential communities (villages) are closed. Strengthen the management of personnel (vehicles) access, and restrict non-owner (village) owners, residents or users and vehicles from entering the property management area (including but not limited to people such as courier, takeaway and their vehicles). Items delivered by courier companies, takeaways, etc. should be sent to a designated area for centralized storage and management, and collected by customers themselves. All entrances and exits should be equipped with prevention and control card points. Residents must enter and exit and conduct body temperature monitoring. Those whose body temperature exceeds 37.3 degrees Celsius are required to actively cooperate with medical observation and other related disposals in accordance with work guidelines, and promptly report to the residents (village) committee Will report.

　　3. Those arriving in Guangzhou must report on the same day. Foreigners and residents of this city will report to the unit and the village (village) committee in a timely manner through the “Sui Kang” WeChat mini-program on the day of their arrival on the same day. Investigate responsibilities according to law.

　　4. Personnel who are still stranded in key epidemic areas are not allowed to return until the first-level response to a major public health emergency in the province is lifted. Public officials (party and government agencies, institutions, and state-owned enterprise staff) who return to Guangzhou in advance shall be held accountable by the disciplinary inspection and supervisory organs at the same level; foreign visitors from Guangzhou have a history of staying in key epidemic areas. Eligibility for points-based household registration and eligibility for points-based public rental housing.

　　V. Those who arrived in key epidemic areas must accept strict home or centralized isolation health management, and they must not go out. In the past 14 days, all personnel who arrived in the key epidemic areas must conduct home and isolation (including dormitory) health observations. If they do not have the home conditions, they must implement centralized quarantine health observations at designated places (including hotels) in the districts. After 14 days, they can be released without symptoms; If you have respiratory symptoms such as fever, cough, shortness of breath, etc., you must immediately report to the neighborhood (village) committee, and the staff of the neighborhood (village) committee will guide them to take protective measures to the nearest hot clinic, and it is strictly forbidden to conceal or report late. Concentrated isolation measures will be taken in accordance with the law to conceal the history of travel in a key epidemic area or to leave the home without authorization during the period of quarantine. If refusal to accept home observation and centralized quarantine health observations results in the spread of the epidemic, responsibilities will be investigated in accordance with the law.

　　6. Implement "eight ones" management and care for home isolation personnel. The street (town) and residential (village) committees must conduct health management and good care services for quarantined persons, and implement the "eight-on-one" measures: post a health care reminder in front of quarantine households and deliver a quarantine The notice specifies a community counterpart to contact the service person and distribute a thermometer, a dozen masks, a temperature test form, a pen, and a brochure; home quarantine must not leave the quarantine without permission during the quarantine period, daily You must upload and report the body temperature monitoring situation. Domestic garbage generated by home isolation personnel must be sealed in the house and placed outside the residence door at the designated time every day by the community.

　　7. Enterprises, public institutions, owners of rental houses or other lessors of the house must implement their responsibilities for prevention and control. Enterprises, institutions, and owners of rental housing are responsible for the management of related personnel, and the management of rental housing is directly responsible. Those who do not report the rented houses of key arrivals in key epidemic areas, fail to implement home and centralized quarantine health observation regulations, fail to fulfill their responsibilities for home and centralized quarantine health observation and reporting, and do not cooperate with government and community workers to conduct work will be investigated in accordance with law responsibility.

　　All citizens and people coming to Guangzhou must abide by the national, provincial, and municipal regulations for epidemic prevention and control, and do a good job of prevention and control. Violations of relevant prevention and control regulations will be investigated for serious responsibility in accordance with the law and regulations.

　　Guangzhou City Pneumonia Epidemic Prevention and Control Headquarters

　　February 7, 2020

　　[Nanfang Daily Reporter] Huang Yingchuan

[Sarah Rainsong]

The nCOV is already fading a bit as it's being taken over by other news.

Impeachment is finally over (thank goodness!) but primaries are just kicking into gear and the Iowa fiasco is what is claiming center-stage now. Next week, it'll be something new. Such is the nature of most people's lives. They are too busy to try to sort through the sheer amount of information thrown at them, especially when they don't really trust the sources and most of it is depressing anyway.

Here's some possible scenarios that I've been mulling on:

Scenario 1: The nCOV continues to fade in the news, leaving China to struggle alone through this and leaving us to theorize why it hit China so hard and not everywhere else.

Scenario 2: The nCOV continues to fade in the news, but as the virus picks ups outside China, the numbers will eventually reach a critical mass and grab center stage again. It could be that critical mass doesn't actually come until next fall/winter.

I think there's some sub-scenarios and nuances that could be played with, too. I'm not leaning toward either one, yet. If this is genetically targeted to Asians, I'm thinking #1 might be more likely. But we don't know for sure if it is, and RNA viruses tend to mutate a bit quicker, so... :noidea:

I agree w/ Bill, the risk seems to be creeping up, and it's always a good idea to exercise some commonsense preparedness. Again, watch what they do, not what they say.

I was surprised at this five minute clip from CNBC on the virus. They boil it down pretty well IMO. Asked some very good questions and got some good answers. Very basic, very pragmatic, no hysteria, no sugar-coating. The title is what grabbed my attention.

We must assume containment for coronavirus will fail in the US, says Johns Hopkins' Amesh Adalja (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBzO7UL-pM&t=207s)

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At about 20 sec in, Dr. Amesh Adalja from John Hopkins University says:
"The US is rapidly trying to prepare its healthcare facilities in order to receive what's probably going to be a surge of patients as this virus spreads in the United States."

[Bill Ryan]

I take no pleasure in this, but this graphic may really be very accurate. This is from Charles Hugh Smith's blog (https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html).

https://www.oftwominds.com/photos2020/exponential-virus2-20.png

[spade]

Charles Hugh Smith's chart didn't take into account the race specific nature of the virus. All whites will recover.


Meanwhile, Chinese doctors have discovered the coronavirus is designed to attach to lung receptors that are five times more common in Asian males than in African or Indo-European males. Asian females also have less than half the amount of these receptors than Asian males.

https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

“They already knew this was coming. It’s the Nipah virus, and guess what, WHITES are essentially immune because we have the acetylcholinase inhibitor against the virus. They KNOW it’s Nipah. The **** is going to hit the fan once people know the mortality rate,” the CIA doctor bragged. Below are some links sent by the CIA doctor.

[Delight]

here go my two cents... no one will be talking about this in one month... i have spoken
much love

Maybe people won't be talking about it? But that may only be because we are herded away from any knowledge of what is important?

I am very concerned that We have a tightening lock down here in the states concerning what we are ALLOWED (by our "protectors") to share, discuss, debate and understand.

I read a tweet by Richard Pan MD (assemblyman in CA responsible for the bills eliminating all ability to refuse vaccines) that was sharing a tweet by a "journalist" known for her alliance to big pharma. Apparently on a facebook group (Stop Mandatory Vaccination), a mother whose family all had flu was worried. She also had doubts about tamifu (prescribed). People apparently responded as advocates for natural treatments and negative comments about tamiflu.

Then one of her children died and she shared that news (though those posts were then removed by the mother? So no proof this is an actual story?).

THEN the tweets launched a wave of social media voices ready to send the mother to jail for not giving the tamiflu, murder all antivaxxers and censor anyone advocating for natural remedies on and on. BUT tamiflu is known to have problems including the fact that it may be useless unless given IMMEDIATELY when symptoms start, not when diagnosed. Then there are other issues that may warrant skepticism.

Moreover, this is an incident supporting facebook and all platforms to STOP the discussion because of the harm when one person has a bad event (in the context of doubt in preferred experts). I am very worried about the climate now. I am afraid we have been BLINKERED as a culture so people cannot make sense themselves of the real agendas.

I see various thought leaders in the alt world who are deliberately seeming to slander others without proof. Innuendo and claims of various other sources of being "controled opposition" and agents of some "enemy" abound.

We know the gate keepers are the (now) limited social media and MSM platforms. Then there are many who I thing ARE agents. I think the lies told by vaccine promoters like MDs Peter Hotez and Richard Pan establish them as such.

IMO we have here at PA a really important avenue to collect and analyze important information. IMO we should all step up and support PA and continue to bring information here to be shared.

Maybe people WILL stop talking but IMO we cannot say that is because there is NOTHING THERE.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Fear and Panic are a huge factor in increasing the death toll, in my opinion. The medical services would rapidly be overwhelmed anywhere if everyone ran to the ER at the first sign of a sniffle, thus greatly limiting the aid to those who really are in dire straights (from any respiratory infection, or other emergencies.) I so wish the governments would concentrate on releasing self-care instructions for flu and colds in general. Our dependency on the medical industry has reached monstrous proportions, sadly.

Source Link (https://www.wanttoknow.info/h/coronavirus-dangerous)
Coronavirus: How Dangerous is it?
Hint: Don't Trust the Media

"Fear-filled news makes money for corporate sponsors of the media, and the more fear generated, the greater the profits."

Dear friends,

Coronavirus: Dangerous?
Did you know that according the the most recent update (Jan. 25th) of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC), "so far this season there have been at least 19 million flu illnesses, 180,000 hospitalizations and 10,000 deaths from flu." See "Key Points" on this CDC webpage to verify this statement.

And on this CDC webpage reporting U.S. annual statistics, "influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010." This CDC webpage further states, "between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year."

That's roughly 100 deaths every day in the U.S. and over 1,000 every day worldwide from the flu. Since it first began spreading over a month ago, the Coronavirus has taken a couple hundred lives in China. More than that many die in a single day there from the regular flu. So why is the Coronavirus drawing such huge attention worldwide? How dangerous really is this new virus?

Most people are well aware that the media makes money through publicizing tragedies and focusing on bad news. Fear sells. "If it bleeds, it leads." Fear-filled news makes money for corporate sponsors of the media, and the more fear generated, the greater the profits. So when a new virus results in any significant number of deaths, it's only natural that major media around the world hype it up with fear-mongering. Look how much attention this new virus has already drawn. How much has the media gotten you focused on this new development?

Governments have also contributed to spreading fear. An article in the U.K.'s Guardian spells out how government officials promulgated fear-filled pronouncements at the time of the swine flu. The U.K.'s chief medical officer stated on BBC that "65,000 could die" in Britain, peaking at 350 corpses a day. Yet once the flu had run its course, the article continues, a total of only "360 people have died under its influence, most with prior 'non-flu' conditions." That's a small fraction of what this official had predicted and amounts to only a few days of the number of deaths from the regular flu.

Another glaring example can be found in this eye-opening 2009 CBS article that states, "If you've been diagnosed 'probable' or 'presumed' 2009 H1N1 or 'swine flu' in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn't have H1N1 flu. In fact, you probably didn't have flu at all." The article goes on to show how the U.S. government's CDC blatantly manipulated numbers to induce fear.

With the current heightened level of fear, many in China who experience even mild symptoms of the flu are deeply concerned that they might have the Coronavirus. So they immediately go to the hospital only to find it is jammed packed with others who have flu-like symptoms, when – even if they do have a virus – the vast majority of these people have only a common version of the flu. The overwhelm in the hospitals then gets spotlighted by the media, further exacerbating the level of fear, even though the hospital overwhelm has little relation to the relatively few numbers who actually have Coronavirus. So panic reigns even when the real threat is much less than feared.

Why has China locked down the entire city of Wuhan (population 11 million) and it's surrounding areas? Consider that with it's one-party system, China is one of the most controlled and surveilled countries in the world. Chinese citizens are not allowed to access facebook and thousands of other websites which might "contaminate the thoughts" of their people. Could it be that China is using this virus as a huge social experiment in crowd control? Is this an effort to see how much how much control China's communist party can generate through all the fear mongering?

Consider also how the swine flu, avian flu, and SARS all drew widespread fear. The whole world was in deep fear that one or all of these diseases was going to kill many millions worldwide. These "pandemics," the media warned, could even cause large parts of the world to be quarantined. Yet in the end for all of these, the number of deaths worldwide was far less than those for the normal flu.

The media and certain corporations and individuals profit handsomely from all this fear. Pharmaceutical stocks soar during disease outbreaks that get huge publicity. Gilead Sciences made money hand over fist with its sales of Tamiflu during the avian and swine flu scares. According to this Washington Post article on the swine flu, "The WHO's response caused widespread, unnecessary fear and prompted countries around the world to waste millions of dollars. [They] relied on advice from experts with ties to drug makers in developing the guidelines it used to encourage countries to stockpile millions of doses of antiviral medications."

This 2014 Reuters article states, "Researchers who have fought for years to get full data on Roche's flu medicine Tamiflu said ... that governments who stockpile it are wasting billions of dollars on a drug whose effectiveness is in doubt." And further, "The United States has spent more than $1.3 billion buying a strategic reserve of antivirals including Tamiflu, while the British government has spent almost 424 million pounds ($703 million) on a stockpile of some 40 million Tamiflu doses."

The vast majority of those Tamiflu reserves were never used. Even after the shelf-life of the drug was extended from five to seven years, that huge stock of Tamiflu is now all expired, so the billions of dollars spent worldwide on Tamiflu during the avian and swine flu scares were wasted. Yet Roche/Gilead happily pocketed most of that in profit that we as tax-payers paid for.

To add another twist, an article in the U.K.'s respected newspaper, The Independent stated, "The drug Tamiflu, given to tens of thousands of people during the swine flu pandemic, does nothing to halt the spread of influenza and the Government wasted nearly £500 million stockpiling it, a major study has found." The article continues, "The review, authored by Oxford University, claims that Roche, the drug’s Swiss manufacturer, gave a 'false impression' of its effectiveness and accuses the company of 'sloppy science.'" And the side effects nearly killed a number of children.

Did you know that former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who was once chairman of the board at Gilead, personally made a windfall of $5 million from sales of Tamiflu? This was reported in the U.K.'s respected newspaper, The Independent, on March 12, 2006. The article strangely was later removed from their website, though you can still find it using the Internet archive at this link.

Though there is certainly reason to be concerned, there are other reasons to suspect that the Coronavirus outbreak is being greatly exaggerated and people are being manipulated into a position of fear. For summaries of the best media articles revealing intense manipulations around the avian and swine flus, see this highly revealing webpage with abundant links for verification of the claims made.

If this information raises questions about how and why all of this is happening, remember that fear is used by many groups, corporations, and even governments to gain greater control and reap immense profits. Explore an excellent two-page essay titled "Creating a New Paradigm," which shows how and why we are controlled through fear, and – more importantly – what we can do about it. By educating ourselves and spreading the word, we can rise above the fear mongering and make a difference in our world. Thanks for caring.

With best wishes for a transformed world,
Fred Burks for PEERS and WantToKnow.info
Former White House interpreter and whistleblower
January 31, 2020

[pyrangello]

I just got off the phone with a supplier of mine, her sons wife is from china and her parents are there in china living in one of the quarantined cities. I did not ask which one? She just said that the parents in china said " it is much worse than they are reporting". For those of us in the states here including myself the coronavirus is non-existent to me. the one thing that still doesn't make sense though, if 100 million people were quarantined, then why? I think we all know the answer to that . I just find this hard to digest this is made up.

I will say in watching the local news here this morning , we have a huge amount of schools closed here due to the regular flu hitting this region of northern michigan . Another customer came in a little while ago and said they took all there scrap metal to the scrap yard today and they are closed, everyone there has the regular flu and nobody to work. Just whats happening here.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I take no pleasure in this, but this graphic may really be very accurate. This is from Charles Hugh Smith's blog (https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html).

https://www.oftwominds.com/photos2020/exponential-virus2-20.png

Can't access the link Bill.

Edit... Got it now. Anyway hope all is well.

Viking

[Bill Ryan]

the parents in China said "it is much worse than they are reporting".Yes... all the indications point to that. Every one. Chris Martenson argues, very convincingly, that the real numbers of cases and deaths are between 10—16 times higher. Based on what I feel I know, I entirely agree.

Many remote parts of China are still like a developing country. Simple farming communities, not much communication with the outside world, little sophisticated healthcare. It's inevitable that the virus will spread widely there, but there'll be no social media reports, no official reports, and no testing. We might only really find out what's happened there years later.

If this was a movie, what would happen in several months time is that China would be brought to its knees, and there'd be a widesperead revolution against the government after half the population was gone. We can only pray that it's not remotely that bad, but I'd not bet too much of what I own against that.

[Bill Ryan]

Mike Adams and Infowars may pick this up in 2-3 days' time. :P


https://ntd.com/the-origin-of-the-coronavirus-report_431784.html
(6 February)

Chinese Netizens and Expert Suspect Wuhan Bioresearch Lab Is the Source of the Coronavirus

When virologists and medical experts around the globe discussed the suspicious nature of the novel coronavirus and pointed to Wuhan’s P4 lab as a likely source, netizens inside China were watching. A Chinese scholar recently challenged Wuhan’s P4 lab to explain how the proteins of the novel coronavirus seem to have been precisely engineered to enable the virus to bind onto human cells. He also disclosed unethical and unprofessional practices he previously observed in China’s bioresearch labs.

According to Wuhan-based Yangtze Daily, Shi Zhengli, Deputy Director of Wuhan’s P4 Lab, publicized a statement on Feb. 2 saying: “I pledge with my life that the 2019 novel coronavirus has nothing to do with our lab. This virus is a punishment imposed on mankind from nature, to condemn mankind’s uncivilized way of living. Those of you who believe rumors or so-called scientific analysis by unqualified researchers, I advise you to shut your damn mouths!”

Shi’s statement irritated many Chinese netizens. “For such a huge calamity that may take countless lives, give us facts and evidence, not pretentious statements such as pledging with your life,” one netizen commented.

A social media user named Wu Xiaohua, with a Ph.D. in biological related fields according to his WeChat profile, challenged Shi to answer key questions about the suspicious gene mutations found in the new virus.

Wu pointed out there is no way that these mutations are the outcome of natural recombination.

“Now, many scientists, including Shi herself, believe that this virus must have originated from bats, and would involve one or two virus hosts to explain the gene mutations. Based on current scientific publications, the virus must jump from rats to primates before it can infect humans. Then how is this step—from rats to primates—usually achieved? It can only be done in a research lab by scientists inserting a certain protein from primates into rats,” Wu wrote.

“I have personally performed the same type of genetic engineering experiments. You cannot get away by being cavalier. Do you dare to accept the challenge and give us an explanation?” he asked.

Wu also disclosed that some biolabs in China are very poorly regulated.

https://www.ntd.com/assets/uploads/2020/02/screenshot-of-post.jpeg Wu’s WeChat post. (Screenshot)

“For instance, some researchers in these labs kept the laboratory dogs as pets; some disposed of animal carcasses casually because following the biosafety rules and cremating them costs a lot of money. Some cut up the laboratory pigs and took the meat home to eat. I know this happened at Beijing 301 Hospital’s spine surgery lab. Worst of all, some laboratory animals were sold to wet markets as wild-caught animals for profit,” he wrote.

Xu Bo, a well-known IT magnate and billionaire in China, cited reports and articles to support Wu’s statements.

In his blog, Xu cited a news report about a lawsuit against biologist Li Ning.

Li is an academician of China Engineering Academy, and a former professor at China Agricultural University. The judgment in Li’s case, which came out on Jan. 2 this year, stated that between 2008 and 2012, Li’s lab sold experimental pigs, cows, and milk to local markets. These animal and animal products were bought using research funds; but Li and his fellow colleagues pocketed the money, a total of 10,179,201 yuan ($1,460,304), from the sale of these animals and animal products.

Li was sentenced to 12 years in prison for embezzlement.

According to a 2016 report from the China Experimental Animal Information Network, Chinese researchers use tens of millions of laboratory animals every year. The Experimental Animal Research Center of Hubei Province alone handles about 300,000 animals a year, either for bioresearch experiments inside the center, or to be sold and distributed to other labs in Hubei Province.

Xu and many other Chinese netizens say they suspect that the novel coronavirus is a genetically engineered virus that somehow escaped from Wuhan P4 Biosafety lab.

A P4 lab handles level 4 biosafety pathogens, the highest level and most dangerous, which have high fatality rates and no known treatments, such as, the ebola and SARS viruses. Such a lab must follow the highest microbiological safety standards to ensure the safety of researchers and the public.

The P4 lab in Wuhan is not only the first of its kind in China, but also the first in Asia. When it opened in 2017, U.S. scientists expressed concerns that, considering China’s opaque administrative structure, if one of those killer viruses “escaped” from the lab, it could cause a doomsday disaster.

[Pam]

I am still monitoring whether the question of the origins of the virus are being questioned in the MSM and the only thing I came up with was a short article from the Washington Times suggesting it may have been released from a lab and many parrot the wet market story. That is all I found although there may be others. The only thing a internet search brought up was the Washington Times story and ,of course, alt news that we are supposed to ignore because they are "conspiracy theorists". Not a story about the number of scientists that state this virus was engineered, nothing. There was a time when journalists would have been all over this.

If you think about it, it really should be legitimate journalism to question where it came from. This speaks volumes to me. There seems to be a huge consensus in the US not to address the issue and that makes me really suspicious. You would think the US would take great pleasure in pointing the finger at the Chinese if this was thought to be accident. Why is there not a word? Who benefits from the silence? What are they hiding?

In contrast, we are fed a steady MSM diet of US political melodrama in reality show format to occupy our minds and distract us.

[onawah]

The question remains--what exactly is all this meant to distract us FROM?



In contrast, we are fed a steady MSM diet of US political melodrama in reality show format to occupy our minds and distract us.

[yuhui]

‘I’m much more useful here’: A French doctor’s experience in coronavirus-hit Wuhan
https://www.france24.com/en/20200205-wuhan-coronavirus-french-doctor

[Bill Ryan]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b (https://www.brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b)






Mod note from Bill: I've removed the embedded Brighteon video (though the correct link is still there), to stop the video playing automatically when the thread is opened. My apologies, but we don't know how to disable that.

[James Newell]

I take no pleasure in this, but this graphic may really be very accurate. This is from Charles Hugh Smith's blog (https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html).

The above scenario is right out of a movie. Never forget, no matter what occurs, things like this do occur regularly on this planet. The survivors seem to survive and then strangely enough the population increases. The population actually increased mostly during WW2. Around 2.3 billion in 1940 and 2.5 billion in 1950. Big population increases after the Spanish Flu pandemic also.
https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-world-population-before-and-after-WWII (https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-world-population-before-and-after-WWII?share=1)

[Bill Ryan]

Chen Quishi, the citizen journalist staking out Wuhan hospitals and crematoriums, is missing. Here he is...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU[/url]
Now he's disappeared. Go to 25:30 in Michael Gu's latest Boxmining.com video, in which Michael spots a video uploaded by Chen's mother, when Michael is live on air.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ0gGix33Qs

[AuCo]

Latest from Lisa Haven... heading a bit dramatic but copied and pasted

“100 BODIES A DAY” SAYS CORONAVIRUS CREMATORIUM INSIDER! ACCIDENTAL LEAK YOU NEED TO HEAR!

https://lisahaven.news/2020/02/100-bodies-a-day-says-coronavirus-crematorium-insider-accidental-leak-you-need-to-hear/

Viking

Chinese treat their dead with much respect. They prefer proper burial, though from some reading, especially in bigger cities lately, roughly half will choose cremation. Still, it strikes me as odd that they would let their dead be cremated in some whole sale crematorium where they could burn 100 bodies a day at full capacity. Weird things going on nowadays. :)

[rgray222]

Trump talks speaks with XI and he say that the Chinese scientists say a scaly anteater could be coronavirus host.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/02/1862/1048/iStock-183527731.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

President Trump tweeted on Friday morning he had "a long conversation" earlier in the day with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping regarding the state of coronavirus in the country — calling him "strong, sharp and powerful."

"[Xi Jinping is] focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days," Trump wrote on Twitter Friday morning. "He will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker and then gone."

To read the full article: https://www.foxnews.com/science/chinese-scientists-say-pangolin-is-possible-coronavirus-host

[Bill Ryan]

For any med-geeks here, this new MedCram video does a good job of showing visually how the ACE2 issue operates, or might be operating.

ACE2 is Angiotensin-I-converting enzyme 2, and this is all about how the coronavirus attacks cells. (And therefore, how that attack might be inhibited.)

Go to 3:20 here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT3_A1bf9pU

[silvanelf]

Chinese Netizens and Expert Suspect Wuhan Bioresearch Lab Is the Source of the Coronavirus

When virologists and medical experts around the globe discussed the suspicious nature of the novel coronavirus and pointed to Wuhan’s P4 lab as a likely source, netizens inside China were watching. A Chinese scholar recently challenged Wuhan’s P4 lab to explain how the proteins of the novel coronavirus seem to have been precisely engineered to enable the virus to bind onto human cells. He also disclosed unethical and unprofessional practices he previously observed in China’s bioresearch labs.

--- snip ---

This accusation against Wuhan’s P4 lab doesn't make sense, because the 'Wuhan virus' binds onto human cells in a similar way as the SARS virus -- in other words the binding onto human cells was at least known since 2011. But the Wuhan P4 lab was inaugurated on Jan. 31 2015, a dozen years after the SARS epidemic.

China Inaugurates the first biocontainment level 4 laboratory in Wuhan (http://english.whiov.cas.cn/News/Events/201502/t20150203_135923.html)

Receptor recognition by novel coronavirus from Wuhan: An analysis based on decade-long structural studies of SARS (https://jvi.asm.org/content/early/2020/01/23/JVI.00127-20)

Novel coronavirus receptors show similarities to SARS-CoV, according to new analysis (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200131114755.htm)

The novel coronavirus 2019 (2019-nCoV) uses the SARS-coronavirus receptor ACE2 and the cellular protease TMPRSS2 for entry into target cells (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.31.929042v1)

[Sue (Ayt)]

This excellent interview appears to be very honest and informative.

Reporter's Notebook: Life and death in a Wuhan coronavirus ICU

PUBLISHEDFEB 6, 2020, 4:40 PM SGT
Translated by Sun Huixia and Dave Yin
WUHAN (CAIXIN GLOBAL) - In the coronavirus epidemic, doctors on the front lines take on the greatest risk and best understand the situation. Dr Peng Zhiyong, director of acute medicine at the Wuhan University South Central Hospital, is one of those doctors.

In an interview on Tuesday with Caixin, Dr Peng described his personal experiences in first encountering the disease in early January and quickly grasping its virulent potential and the need for stringent quarantine measures.

As the contagion spread and flooded his ICU, the doctor observed that three weeks seemed to determine the difference between life and death. Patients with stronger immune systems would start to recover in a couple of weeks, but in the second week, some cases would take a turn for the worse.

In the third week, keeping some of these acute patients alive might require extraordinary intervention. For this group, the death rate seems to be 4 per cent to 5 per cent, Dr Peng said. After working his 12-hour daytime shifts, the doctor spends his evenings researching the disease and has summarised his observations in a thesis.

The doctors and nurses at his hospital are overwhelmed with patients. Once they don protective hazmat suits, they go without food, drink and bathroom breaks for their entire shifts. That's because there aren't enough of the suits for a mid-shift change, he said.

Over the past month on the front lines of the coronavirus battle, Dr Peng has been brought to tears many times when forced to turn away patients for lack of staffing and beds. He said what really got to him, though, was the death of an acutely ill pregnant woman when treatment stopped for lack of money - the day before the government decided to pick up the costs of all coronavirus treatments.

Here's our interview with the ICU doctor:
Full Report Link (https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/reporters-notebook-life-and-death-in-a-wuhan-coronavirus-icu)

[AuCo]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b (https://www.brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b)

Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.






Mod note from Bill: I've removed the embedded Brighteon video (though the correct link is still there), to stop the video playing automatically when the thread is opened. My apologies, but we don't know how to disable that.

[Pam]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b (https://www.brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b)

Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
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Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.






Mod note from Bill: I've removed the embedded Brighteon video (though the correct link is still there), to stop the video playing automatically when the thread is opened. My apologies, but we don't know how to disable that.

[justntime2learn]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b (https://www.brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b)

Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
sound

Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.

What if they're desensitized to the gunfire?






Mod note from Bill: I've removed the embedded Brighteon video (though the correct link is still there), to stop the video playing automatically when the thread is opened. My apologies, but we don't know how to disable that.

[guayabal]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.


Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
sound

Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.

What if they're desensitized to the gunfire?

I saw the video with the dead girl and the police car some days ago and it didn't have the explosion sounds on the background... this video is a "sensationalist" edit. The problem is that I can't find the original video now... I saw it probably on bitchute. I will post it here if I find it again. [Note: the two cuts having the explosions are from different sources (different formats) and sound exactly the same... fake.]

[Delight]

This sounds ominous... "one of every two instances of human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus is believed to occur while the first patient is not yet showing symptoms".



Half of secondary virus infections occur in incubation period: study
Feb 8, 2020 | KYODO NEWS (https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/02/255501851d48-half-of-secondary-virus-infections-occur-in-incubation-period-study.html)

At least one of every two instances of human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus is believed to occur while the first patient is not yet showing symptoms, according to an estimate by a group of Japanese university researchers.

Based on its determination, the team, headed by Hokkaido University professor Hiroshi Nishiura, has called for preventive measures as well as reinforcing the medical care system against a potential sharp rise in coronavirus patients, rather than focusing exclusively on isolation as a way to contain the disease.

According to the estimate based on 26 human-to-human infection cases released by six countries such as China, Thailand and the United States, the timing of the secondary infection was shorter than previously thought.

Although the average period of incubation for the coronavirus originating from central China is believed to be about five days, the researchers found that second patients in more than half of the 26 human-to-human infection cases under study developed pneumonia symptoms within five days.

The team concluded that these second patients were infected with the virus during its incubation period for the first patients.

"The findings suggest that it is difficult to contain the illness simply by isolation," Nishiura said. "We need to put more emphasis on prevention of infection for people with high risks such as the elderly."

"It is also important to prepare the medical care system so that we will not experience confusion even in the event of a greater number of pneumonia patients," he added.

The number of people with the new coronavirus in mainland China has topped 31,000, with the death toll in the country rising to 636, according to the Chinese government.

Many countries including Japan are struggling to contain the spread of the disease by isolating infected patients.


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A new paper published on Wednesday in the “New England Journal of Medicine” has sparked an online storm on China’s social media.

It said the coronavirus started to spread person-to-person in mid-December and evidence of this was clear in early January. But Chinese authorities insist there was no evidence until late January.

Angry internet users are accusing health authorities of withholding information about the coronavirus. Some of China's top health authorities, including the director of the country's Center for Disease Control, are among the authors of the paper.

Wang Liming, a biology professor in China, wrote in a post that he was “more than outraged, and literally speechless” after reading the paper, calling it “the first solid proof that human transmission was intentionally hidden from the public.” The professor’s post was quickly deleted.

The paper also contradicts some of China’s other official announcements.

It shows that from Jan 1st to 11th, 7 health care providers were infected with the virus.

However, China’s official notice said on Jan 13th there was no infection among health care providers.

One post online accused the health officials of “Risking billions of lives in exchange for a chance to publish their paper in a nice journal.”

Others wrote that “the researchers are also helpless if the authorities don’t allow them to disclose the information.”

The mayor of Wuhan said in an earlier interview with China state media, that local officials aren’t allowed to disclose information about the outbreak to the public without approval from higher officials. The comment sparked public outrage over officials' blame game and lack of transparency.

WHO

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[guayabal]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.


Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
sound

Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.

What if they're desensitized to the gunfire?

I saw the video with the dead girl and the police car some days ago and it didn't have the explosion sounds on the background... this video is a "sensationalist" edit. The problem is that I can't find the original video now... I saw it probably on bitchute. I will post it here if I find it again. [Note: the two cuts having the explosions are from different sources (different formats) and sound exactly the same... fake.]

Here is a copy of the last cut of the video without the explosions:
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[yuhui]

This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b (https://www.brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b)

This video is misleading. It's made from 3 different video sources from different places.

1. First video is about Police in Guanghan city in Deyang, Sichuan province capturing a Fugitive in Chong Qing city. The fugitive killed a security guard of a primary school back in 2001, June 22th. The police in Guanghan city heard from police in Chong Qing city that the fugitive is having a fever, so they are wearing protective clothes.
For more information: https://sichuan.scol.com.cn/ggxw/202001/57463359.html
https://twitter.com/caincc/status/1223675682435153920

2. The second video (from 21s) is doctors and nurses checking people who died at home. The sound is not gunshots but fireworks. Considering it's rural area during chinese new year, it's pretty common.
A lot of people died at home not only in Wuhan city, but Hubei province. A lot of people can't be admitted to the hospitals because there is not enough beds, medical staff and medical resources.
I was told by my mum that friend of her friend who lives in Wuhan died because she couldn't be treated in Hospital.
What is happening right now in Wuhan and Hubei is a humanitarian crisis.

3. Third video (after 39s) I searched it by the characters on the white car: 黄梅县五祖镇卫生院 (which indicates the place).
Rumours are someone killed because he was trying to pass a roadblock, so the police shot him dead. It's not true.
The locals in that place said there was a car accident a few days ago.
It's two underaged guys driving motorcycles too fast. The one who was driving the motorcycle died and the other one was sent to the hospital.
More: https://twitter.com/RyPllPIchQEmrP1/status/1223456917583908864






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[yuhui]

Latest from Lisa Haven... heading a bit dramatic but copied and pasted

“100 BODIES A DAY” SAYS CORONAVIRUS CREMATORIUM INSIDER! ACCIDENTAL LEAK YOU NEED TO HEAR!

https://lisahaven.news/2020/02/100-bodies-a-day-says-coronavirus-crematorium-insider-accidental-leak-you-need-to-hear/

Viking

Chinese treat their dead with much respect. They prefer proper burial, though from some reading, especially in bigger cities lately, roughly half will choose cremation. Still, it strikes me as odd that they would let their dead be cremated in some whole sale crematorium where they could burn 100 bodies a day at full capacity. Weird things going on nowadays. :)


Yes we do, the burial is so important in our culture. However, because the dead bodies carries Coronavirus, it's leaving people without choices.
Here is a girl crying and saying mum after a car from CREMATORIUM : https://twitter.com/RFA_Chinese/status/1223813469536808960
It makes my heart broken seeing people couldn't say goodbye to their loved ones.

"After she was put into an observation ward on Jan. 11, I wouldn’t see her again until I picked up her ashes 11 days later." http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1005146/dispatches-from-hubei-two-weeks-between-life-and-death

[yuhui]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQDa8zdU0AAwxmr?format=jpg&name=900x900

This is about the number of medical staff infected with coronavirus in 13 hospitals, the third column is the number confirmed.

"Li Ting was an emergency room nurse in Wuhan kept fighting to CoA in the frontline. Unfortunately, she was infected with CoA. Her husband, Hai Tang, is one of the cameramen in Wuhan division of Ergeng. He uses his camera to record the days he and his wife fight with CoA. He also would like to use the videos recorded to encourage all patients."

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[thepainterdoug]

YuHui/ I agree the shots fired don't make sense with the rest of the video. We are in a real crossroads today. No one can believe anything, yet we must believe something. Tech and our human beliefs and emotions are now intertwined. No one believes anything anymore. Is this good? or will this lead our collective downfall?

i grew up learning, pictures don't lie. well, today they often do. we must do our best.

[Delight]

This outbreak is hurting people and being concerned is certainly not "racist"

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Whistle blowers face serious repercussions

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[Ascension]

From earlier today, Trump's coronavirus task force holds a briefing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R567FgtNgnQ

It was mentioned that the CDC has a working relationship with the CDC in China, but if so, neither group seems to be sharing much information.

[Delight]

Humanitarian Crisis unfolding. This channel has many translated videos of conditions in China.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYaC6s-j7e_4ZYuoyR5dsGw/videos

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[Delight]

It is severely effecting hospital workers.

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There is significant nosocomial infection. But people in China are being forced to go to containment centers and this is just unbelievably horrible IMO.


2) In addition to 29% medical staff, 12% of patients had gotten #coronavirus as hospital-acquired🦠. Quote: “Hospital-associated transmission was suspected as the presumed mechanism of infection for affected health professionals (40 [29%]) and hospitalized patients (17 [12.3%]).”
Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
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3) Astute readers added 29%+12% and asked if it means 41% of the 138 patients got 🦠 as a hospital-acquired infection... yes but maybe not one’s personal risk walking into a hospital. 12% maybe weak/susceptible, and 29% medical staff have much closer contact than normal patients.

[Agape]

I’m sorry to say this much in open but there are times and there will be times yet when we all have to go back to school.
If you want to discuss causes and conditions of this and similar humanitarian disasters, the roots are lack of good education, information and generally an ignorance.
The Universe neither this world are “status quod”.

This planet is inhabited by trillions of viruses some of whom can turn lethal. There is so much we can learn, so much we don’t know yet about every living species on this planet.
People who keep telling you they know it all because them and their ancestors reached some kind of “enlightenment”, “ultimate insight” or consensus with nature can turn to dangerous/risky people at any times.
Most of them prefer to discuss politics but know very little about biology of viruses or that of their own.

The biology part is extremely interesting and relevant but that’s when you have to go “back to school” and study more about coronaviruses( in this case),
what’s their unique biological make up, what way many of them evolved enzymatic complexes in order to avoid and surpass immunity barriers of the host.

Stop making fun of innocent people.

There’s a lack of information and education behind all this horrendous scenery and I can assure you it would not be that much better in other parts of the world either,
despite the situation in rural China being still notoriously suppressed and somewhat illiterate.
Of course: people who barely know to read and write beyond their language, most of them barely reading local news won’t read scientific journals easily.
So true for people all over the world.

80% of those people will go for “local remedies” as target antivirotic medicines are either unknown or associated with high costs and generally unavailable outside of medically communities and specific research centres.

There’s still good 40% people who did not surpass the “ideology barrier” because their grandparent generations denied “germ theory” in favour of “Gods equation”.
Their religions and ideologies put them( THE HUMAN ) on the top of the list.
They preach that you can live and die by that faith and conviction alone.

They “don’t need to wash hands” and do the rest of the chores. They will just sit and wait( in better case) how it doesn’t happen to THEM.
Because when it does, it’s late to cry wolf for any of those people.

They’re not ready to study life, learn about it, so sad. So sad and cynical , I’ve seen some of these “big kids” in their 40s or 30s even,
their brains reached a “closure” and they can’t study a chapter from anatomy atlas.
It would “hurt” their brain it seems.

But they will keep arguing forever about the philosophy of it all not being right and how they will become “leaders by principle”. Leaders who know nothing about human biology ?
Leaders of drones ? No, thanks.

I also don’t believe things or creatures I don’t understand but that’s why studying is so important everyday. Self study yes, if you’re not part of university program then study more, keep your brain busy, control your ignorance.

Sure this situation is transient but if it concerned humanity in total every first grader would be able to recite the morphology and chemistry of coronavirus.
And in next generation, they most probably will because it’s part of our life here.

There’s so much worthy research information available on the internet it’s shame if people skip it. There were times any of this was kept almost secret or hard to access.

Things like “most viral transmissions occur before developing symptoms” will stop shocking you because you would understand it’s logical. You need to understand about “incubation period” and your vs viral chemistry,
depending on temperature and the rest of your biological condition.

I wish that situations like this will make millions of people think beyond their dogma and “culture customs” such as consuming all kinds of living creatures here,
due to global biological contamination the process is growing risky as time will progress.
The danger of cross-species contamination with bacterial and viral contaminants and that between both subterranean, marine, aquatic, land animals and humans, aerial contamination from ocean to atmosphere and land to atmosphere is very pronounced now and the “soup” will get more mixed in future.

Don’t tell your children “in our times” we did not need or do this n that.

They don’t have the choice now. Hygienic needs will grow with humanity growth and expansion. There is no “simple world out there” and “life under trees” anymore.
There’s isn’t any way of going back to it.

There isn’t any way with pushing someone to primitivism and cult like faiths even if many are susceptible to such desperate measures.

People don’t “have to be dying”.

If you want to know, study more about the marvel of life. Your empty doubts like empty faith, all empty.

Thanks to the brave

🙏🌟🙏

[spade]

do you have any practical solution advice?

[bluestflame]

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apologies if this has already been posted , will need the subtitles verified but if this is true a mention of wuhan being the epicentre of an anti communist rebellion ? is this a deliberate extermination ? ( fish in a barrel)rebellion reference at 6:55

[Innocent Warrior]

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apologies if this has already been posted , will need the subtitles verified but if this is true a mention of wuhan being the epicentre of an anti communist rebellion ? is this a deliberate extermination ? ( fish in a barrel)rebellion reference at 6:55

Hi - I’m thinking he was referring to this Sun Yat-sen (sourced from Wikipedia) -

“Sun Yat-sen (/ˈsʌn ˈjætˈsɛn/; born Sun Wen; 12 November 1866 – 12 March 1925)[1][2] was a Chinese philosopher, physician, and politician, who served as the provisional first president of the Republic of China and the first leader of the Kuomintang (Nationalist Party of China). He is referred as the "Father of the Nation" in the Republic of China due to his instrumental role in the overthrow of the Qing dynasty during the Xinhai Revolution. Sun is unique among 20th-century Chinese leaders for being widely revered in both mainland China and Taiwan.[3]

Sun is considered to be one of the greatest leaders of modern China, but his political life was one of constant struggle and frequent exile. After the success of the revolution in which Han Chinese regained power after 268 years of living under the Manchu Qing dynasty, he quickly resigned as President of the newly founded Republic of China and relinquished it to Yuan Shikai. He soon went to exile in Japan for safety but returned to found a revolutionary government in the South as a challenge to the warlords who controlled much of the nation. In 1923, he invited representatives of the Communist International to Canton to re-organize his party and formed a brittle alliance with the Chinese Communist Party. He did not live to see his party unify the country under his successor, Chiang Kai-shek in the Northern Expedition. He died in Beijing of gallbladder cancer on 12 March 1925.[4]”

I wonder how much more the people of Wuhan can take though, human beings can only take so much and I’m amazed at how well they’ve endured so far. Such a beautiful young man, we all do our thing (our missions, help out where we can etc.) but I wish there was something more we could do for everyone like him.

[Bill Ryan]

The latest from Chris Martenson.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir79nIFbobA

[Airwooz]

My community was locked down 2 weeks ago, You can smell the disinfectant in the air. Everybody wearing mask, the security guy wearing eye goggle and raincoat.....got your body temperature checked each time while entering the community or go to supermarket.......this reminds me of many sci-fi movies from the 80s and 90s....

...Business and school are shutdown, no travling allowed. People feel anxious, they need to pay their debt and rent.

The whole society is mobilized to hunt down people who was from Hubei province especially from Wuhan, they are building more quarantine centre throughout the country.

I knew this coronavirus outbreak about 2 months ago, watching the status picking up slowly. I've seen HongKong and Japan has few cases meanwhile China only reported Wuhan cases, how could this be ? They faked the number as usual till it totally lost contorl.

Hospitals in Wuhan ran out of everthing masks, protective suits, medicine, body bags and everything, medical staff under nervous breakdown. It's a big mess. They don't even have enough of test-kit to diagnosis.

[Charles Harris]

That is an interesting Logo in your Avatar space. Are you connected to the military in China?
Thank you for your post.

[Airwooz]

That is an interesting Logo in your Avatar space. Are you connected to the military in China?
Thank you for your post.

No, i am not related to militray, it's just my puppy.

[Airwooz]

I think that video shows 3 gunman in protective suit is unlikely to be the policeman, eventhough thery were got off from a police SUV.

Chinese police only has limeted train to use weapons, such as handgun, not to mention most of them never have a chance to fire a gun throughout their career.

in that video, they were carrying type 95 rife and handgun, they either armed police or from the military, one guy was picking up something he lost on the ground, a document maybe i don't know ?

it's very suspious to me