The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

[Arcturian108]

Take a look at this if nobody has already posted it:

https://www.brighteon.com/0d53eaf5-9903-49c6-9330-0fb95cb4a59c

The video discusses that a laboratory in San Diego came up with a coronavirus vaccine in three hours, with the help of funding from Bill Gates!

[ExomatrixTV]

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Source (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g/permalink/863784390723384/)

[Ernie Nemeth]

A few months back, it was revealed that China and even Russia are acquiring weapons of war that the USA cannot counter effectively for the next ten years or so. The talk turned to how to turn this around. And there were cryptic hints that something would have to be done in a big hurry to give the US time to catch up.

I wonder if this virus could be part of that response.

[justntime2learn]

Take a look at this if nobody has already posted it:

https://www.brighteon.com/0d53eaf5-9903-49c6-9330-0fb95cb4a59c

The video discusses that a laboratory in San Diego came up with a coronavirus vaccine in three hours, with the help of funding from Bill Gates!

Unbelievable, but so believable!

[Delight]

A few months back, it was revealed that China and even Russia are acquiring weapons of war that the USA cannot counter effectively for the next ten years or so. The talk turned to how to turn this around. And there were cryptic hints that something would have to be done in a big hurry to give the US time to catch up.

I wonder if this virus could be part of that response.

This is relevant in discussing biological warfare based on a speech given between 2000-2003

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[Bill Ryan]

Take a look at this if nobody has already posted it:

https://www.brighteon.com/0d53eaf5-9903-49c6-9330-0fb95cb4a59c

The video discusses that a laboratory in San Diego came up with a coronavirus vaccine in three hours, with the help of funding from Bill Gates!

Below is the original report.

Creating a potential vaccine is the easy part. Then there's months of meticulous testing.

That's not just because of regulations — the vaccine might not work at all. This is complicated stuff.

Forget the media reports! Any scientist from the lab would be very cautious about this, and very measured indeed. Everyone in the field knows it's a long and winding road, with the likelihood of ambushes and many false turns. Whatever the urgency, one has to go slowly and carefully.

In the movie Contagion, Jennifer Ehle's character Dr. Ally Hextall sees that one of the many infected lab monkeys has received experimental vaccine #57 — and has stayed healthy.

She gazes at the monkey for quite a while with a growing smile, and soon after injects herself with the same vaccine #57. Now confident she's totally immune, she visits a patient who's close to death, with no mask or protection whatsoever. And after that, everyone quickly starts to recover.

It looks great in a movie! (And overall, the movie is very realistic.) But that's not quite how it all works. :)

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https://foxbusiness.com/technology/california-lab-coronavirus-vaccine-3-hours

California lab says it discovered coronavirus vaccine in 3 hours

Scientists are racing to get the vaccine on the market in record time

An American biotech company says it created a coronavirus vaccine three hours after getting access to the virus' genetic sequence in mid-January, and now scientists are racing to get the vaccine on the market in record time.

Inovio Pharmaceuticals is based in Pennsylvania, but scientists in its laboratory in San Diego made the discovery.

"We were able to rapidly construct our vaccine in a matter of about three hours once we had the DNA sequence from the virus available because of the power of our DNA medicine platform," Dr. J. Joseph Kim, Inovio's president and CEO, told FOX Business. "Our goal is to start phase one human testing in the U.S. early this summer."

China has reported 254 new daily deaths and a spike in new daily virus cases of 15,152, after new methodology was applied in the hardest-hit province of Hubei as to how cases are categorized.

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Medical workers treat patients in the isolated intensive care unit at a hospital in Wuhan in central China's Hubei province Thursday.

Inovio's stock jumped to $5.32 a share a few days after the company announced it was selected to work on a coronavirus vaccine.

The American company is partnering with Beijing Advaccine, a Chinese company, to work on the vaccine. Inovio also received $9 million to work on the vaccine from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, which is backed by billionaire Bill Gates.

"We’ve done this many, many times before. The most relevant was building our vaccine against MERS virus, which is a coronavirus in the same family as COVID-19," Kim said.
Inovio took a vaccine for Zika virus from construct design to human testing in the U.S. in less than seven months, Kim said.

"We’re planning to beat our own record," he said. "Maybe we could do that in close to half that time."

Inovio is building a coalition for the "war" against COVID-19 that will require scaling up to thousands upon thousands of doses, Kim said.

Another U.S. company, Maryland-based Novavax (https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/coronavirus-vaccine-novavax-nvax-maryland), is aiming to make a coronavirus vaccine in as little as three months, although such vaccines can take years to develop. The company made an Ebola vaccine in 90 days.

[Delight]

Take a look at this if nobody has already posted it:

https://www.brighteon.com/0d53eaf5-9903-49c6-9330-0fb95cb4a59c

The video discusses that a laboratory in San Diego came up with a coronavirus vaccine in three hours, with the help of funding from Bill Gates!

People revere vaccines as if they are the magic wand but really vaccines are a kind of pandoras box. SARS has no vaccine. One reason I heard about is that vaccination means the next time one gets exposed to the virus, the body over reacts and that is cytokine storm and is a killer. This is also IMO what I understand the dengue vaccine can do if one already had exposure... becomes a killer.

The whole issue of vaccines is also why one is injected with excipients/adjuvants.... vaccination apparently just does not work very well. And that is not even touching the long term effects. BUT people will demand a vaccine and IMO citizens will demand everyone get a vaccine. People are that unable to understand the keys of health and that is why the draconian government over reach developing SEEMS like the force of a deep seated anti-human evil. This insanity is irrespective of all particular states/nations/government. Some have speculated that it is what happens when people tip the balance too far. It happens when people lose their Divine connection. I believe this is true. It is almost a psychic viral proliferation? Ignorance is from separation and the split off lets in that spirit. Metaphoric and mythic.......

I am of the OPINION (no facts to report) that the flu vaccine may well be the set up to die later of exposure to other strains of flu?

In china, there IS that fact that mandatory vaccination was demanded at the end of the year. Then people are suddenly very sick form a viral exposure with the pneumonia aspect and some people think that MAYBE there was a vaccine trigger?


More on the ACE2-Related Asian COVID-19 Susceptibility Hypothesis
James Lyons-Weiler, PhD – 2/16/2020 (https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/16/more-on-the-ace2-related-asian-covid-19-susceptibility-hypothesis/)"Why Is the Mortality Rate So Low Outside of China?

The current mortality rate outside of China is very low, I estimate around 0.005%, compared to the 2.3% rate in China. Most if not all of the deaths outside of China have involved Chinese citizens who have traveled abroad.

Current hypotheses include that a covert SARS vaccination program was included in the national mandatory vaccination program started on Dec 1, 2019 that happened to involve a secondary true outbreak of Coronavirus with secondary exposure. Under such conditions, the animal models clearly show that vaccination against SARS spike proteins lead to high rates of morbidity and mortality, especially in older mice. No children seem to be dying in China, consistent with them being excluded from a large-scale initial Phase II or Phase III trial. Mortality appears highest in Hubei and Wuhan as well. We know a Phase I trial against SARS was conducted with 120 people by Sinovac around 2007.

Another possibility is that a vaccine used by the Chinese has weakened their response to an otherwise mild coronavirus infection. SARS 2 binding to ACE2 is weaker. Thimerosal inhibits ERAP1. Vaccination with aluminum hydroxide containing vaccines might induce autoimmunity in the lungs. All of these factors could play a role in making vaccinated individuals more susceptible.

A third possibility is that people in that geographic region who had prior SARS infections might be less able to fight off SARS 2 simply due to original antigenic sin from infection. Toronto, Canada, take note.

Either way, as SARS 2 spreads around the world, the medical community should begin to collect past medical exposure information while they collect information on contact w/people who recently traveled to China:

Were you recently vaccinated using aluminum-containing vaccines?
Have you ever received a diagnosis of a SARS infection in the past?
Are you of Asian or Chinese descent?
With these three questions, we could learn a lot about the risk of mortality in a few weeks’ time and plan an informed public health response accordingly.

Also, CDC and WHO should begin to inform owners of public businesses to have their staff wipe down commonly touched spots – door handles, light fixtures, bathroom fixtures, payment keypads, menus – and tell the public to use the Ebola “fist-bump” greeting. People should use their keys or a knuckle to push elevator doors.

These simple, low-cost cultural shifts will reduce the rate of spread of all virus-based disease, including influenza.


This is also off topic but IMO it is helpful to understand the forces at work globally as FORCES are seeking to control EVERYONE. The face may be China but the force is ?????????????

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[Bill Ryan]

Jcthdee6CXsThis is a fantastic presentation. I'm more than impressed. Laurie Garrett has a rock solid grasp of all the facts (to do with this and every other epidemic) — and is also full of heartfelt empathy for the healthcare workers in China, whom she describes as being "in Dante's Inferno".

I've not watched it all yet. I just got to the point at 39:00 when she references Dr Gabriel Leung, this guy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Leung). He's a Hong Kong epidemiologist, widely respected and one of the very best in the world.

Laurie Garrett said that Dr Leung released an analysis "last night" — the interview was published on 14 Feb — stating that COVID-19 will go pandemic and could infect 60% of the world's population with a 1% mortality rate.

"I just hope he's totally wrong", she said.

Folks, wake up, please. (Of course, this may only apply to a few of the many people reading this. :flower: )

This is not the flu or the common cold. Everyone reading this and their families will very probably be 100% totally fine — but only because you all know a lot of good stuff about how to take care of yourselves. However this may be taken advantage of by political elements with agendas, this thing is real.

[ExomatrixTV]

CoronaVirus - Chinese Quarantine:
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https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AGF-l7-em8DPf5fHDaQ4GrKDh0btArZbMi3bvAusnw=s88-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/user/thecrowhouse)
thecrowhouse (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCegOTmclzjfKuQh0SHflqww)
206K subscribers

Max Igan perspectives on what is true what is is not ... what is the pushed narrative and what is really going on ... how is the quarantine "handled" ... are prisons used instead of hospitals? Is it a PsyOp for something else?

cheers.
John

[Floating]

The fear they are trying to create is palpable.

[pyrangello]

The Laura Garret video just above that bill posted from the Epoch Times is a really informative video, highly recommend watching this.

[James Newell]

Take a look at this if nobody has already posted it:

https://www.brighteon.com/0d53eaf5-9903-49c6-9330-0fb95cb4a59c

The video discusses that a laboratory in San Diego came up with a coronavirus vaccine in three hours, with the help of funding from Bill Gates!

Unbelievable, but so believable!

Maybe not so hard when you own the patent of the virus and the vaccine prior. We had the patent number posted a bit ago.

[ExomatrixTV]

The 2019 China Wuhan Coronavirus Covid-19 & (BSL-4) Biotech Warfare Labs with Dr. Francis Boyle:
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WorkWeek host Steve Zeltzer on KPOO interviews Dr. Fancis Boyle who is a law professor at the University of Illinois. He was the draft author of the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses of the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush. He discusses the likelihood in his view that coronavirus or Covid-19 virus was a genetically engineered virus that may have been accidentally released from the Biosafety (BSL-4) laboratory located in Wuhan, China. He also has said that the sars virus may also have been released from the same laboratory. He reports that the World Health Organization WHO is also aware of this release and is keeping it a secret from the public. Boyle also calls for the shutdown of all (BSL-4) laboratories both in China, the United States and around the world and discusses the dangerous lack of health and safety at these biotech laboratories including in California where there is a large biotech industry. This interview was done on 2/6/20 at KPOO in San Francisco Additional media.


Over 350,000 sign petition (https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/02/119_283186.html) calling for WHO chief's resignation.
Biowarfare and Terrorism By Francis A. Boyle here (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.questia.com%2Flibrary%2F120091924%2Fbiowarfare-and-terrorism&redir_token=nS3eVAf-iTLUHv_0TY1VTz9JLDR8MTU4MjA2NDc1NkAxNTgxOTc4MzU2&event=video_description&v=YHxbBDIeJFY)
Injured Agraquest Biotech Worker David Bell Tells His Story here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHF3aNE9FoA)
he Biotech Health/Safety Crisis, Biotech Workers & Industry With Becky McClain here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU5PMiUf2AA)
Becky McClain: Public Awareness of Public Health and Safety in Biotechnology - Tarrytown 2011 here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwgABDwiNVw)
Researcher Had Bacteria for Plague at His Death here (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2009%2F09%2F22%2Fus%2F22chicago.html&redir_token=nS3eVAf-iTLUHv_0TY1VTz9JLDR8MTU4MjA2NDc1NkAxNTgxOTc4MzU2&event=video_description&v=YHxbBDIeJFY)
INFECTION IN CHICAGO USA IN 2009 here (https://academic.oup.com/femsle/article/362/1/1/2467558)
Justice for Malcolm: Human Sacrifice Under U.S. Bioterrorism here (https://www.amazon.com/Justice-Malcolm-Human-Sacrifice-Bioterrorism/dp/0990544605)
Dr. Francis Boyle Creator Of Bioweapons Act SaysCoronavirus Is Biological Warfare Weapon here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM)

[Bill Ryan]

The Laurie Garret video just above that bill posted from the Epoch Times is a really informative video, highly recommend watching this.Yes. And to Floating, who posted this...
The fear they are trying to create is palpable... I genuinely understand. I really do.

But the mainstream coverage of this has been incredibly poor. One really has to turn over some large stones sometimes to figure out what may really be happening.

To wit, the comment I shared here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336541&viewfull=1#post1336541) (Laurie Garrett's statement about Dr Gabriel Leung's calculation that the virus could infect 60% of the world's population) I'd not heard anywhere else.

Not in the mainstream. Not even here on Avalon. No headlines. No talk show appearances. Just a quiet but serious research paper from a highly respected scientist, whose only mission is to try to save lives through further understanding of the mathematics of epidemics.

What that means is that 'they' (as in "The fear they are trying to create") isn't very well defined.

For instance in drawing readers' attention to Gabriel Leung, I'm not trying to create fear: I'm trying to educate, with good information, as best I can. I do that everywhere I go on the forum.

And I bend over backwards to be accurate, which is why I put the word could in emphasis. One of my missions here (but one of many!) is to give the lie to the notion that this is just some over-dramatized news-cycle scare, and it's no worse than regular flu or any other tragedy in which good people die. That may not be the case.

As Laurie Garrett herself explained, the time to take action about something like this is when there are 20 cases, or 40. She actually said that when there are 100 cases, it's already getting out of control.

All that means is that the time to get aware about all this is very early — not very late. Many informed people are arguing now that the reaction to this very real problem (from both the Chinese and everyone else) has been MUCH too late.

And while we look at heartrending videos from China, and ponder over the statistics, there's the deeper and more intractable question of how come this all came about.

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact. If one really doesn't mind having a sleepless night, watch the video interview with Jeff Nyquist in post #756 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336531&viewfull=1#post1336531). OMG. There's a ton of pretty important stuff in there about Russian and Chinese military strategy that I'd never known. That really is scary (terrifying, even) — and might be all too real.

And that's not on CNN, either. :) My suspicion about the world in general is that the really scary stuff is usually hidden from us... not flaunted in our faces.

[Bill Ryan]

Take a look at this if nobody has already posted it:

https://www.brighteon.com/0d53eaf5-9903-49c6-9330-0fb95cb4a59c

The video discusses that a laboratory in San Diego came up with a coronavirus vaccine in three hours, with the help of funding from Bill Gates!

Unbelievable, but so believable!

Maybe not so hard when you own the patent of the virus and the vaccine prior. We had the patent number posted a bit ago.Yes, that's here:


The coronavirus is a patented depopulation weapon patented July 23 2015. Patent number 10130701 assigned to the Pirbright Institute. I am sure they will make good money from this. First you patent the virus than the vaccine.

https://infowars.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-others-predicted-up-to-65-million-deaths-via-coronavirus-in-simulation-ran-3-months-ago (https://infowars.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-others-predicted-up-to-65-million-deaths-via-coronavirus-in-simulation-ran-3-months-ago/)That 2015 patent was actually for an avian virus that's quite unrelated to this one. Again, it's pretty challenging sometimes to decode quite what's real and what's not real. There's really quite a lot of misinformation about this not only in the mainstream, but in the so-called alternative media as well. (Even if it's well-intentioned!)

[ExomatrixTV]

For consideration purpose only:

Staged Coronavirus Pandemic: An International Criminal Conspiracy of Epic Proportions (https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2020/02/staged-coronavirus-pandemic-an-international-criminal-conspiracy-of-epic-proportions-2654170.html)

I do not claim they are absolutely "right" but it has many source-links that backs up SOME of their claims very well!

cheers,
John




(https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2020/02/staged-coronavirus-pandemic-an-international-criminal-conspiracy-of-epic-proportions-2654170.html)

[Innocent Warrior]

For some Chinese departments the Corona virus has become a social- psychological experiment that's flushing out (possible) dissidents

There is an abundance of reference to China as a totalitarian regime, it has many dissents it wants to suppress, there is no freedom for the people and it is something that the west must avoid at all costs, etc.

This is quite erroneous. China is much more than that. The number of dissidents is in fact very small, dissatifaction with the government is perhaps at the minimum since the late Ching dynasty. Reason being that there is still a great deal of freedom in many aspects of life. People can have a happy family raising kids and let them attend schools and maybe going overseas. People can afford cars and travel around China during holidays. There is an abundance of material wealth for many. Xi has also implemented a lot of policies to lift poverty, especially in rural areas.

Why is it then China appears to be just bad? The understanding of China is not much more than the west had a hundred years ago. Not because of the lack of information, but because of the overwhelmingly biased information. The ignorance and discriminatoty attitude toward China are prevalent in the west.

The social psychological experiment is as much on them as is on the Chinese.

Incorrect, mate. The sentiment you’re whining about is towards the CCP, not China. “Bad” is putting it mildly, horrifying and diabolical is more accurate.

[wondering]

Bill, I am very grateful for your rational and comprehensive reporting of the Wuhan events as they have transpired. it has been priceless at a time when there is so little factual information available. I can't imagine the time you must put in sifting through what is available. I'm sure I speak for others as well who have greatly benefited from this thread. Diane

[Delight]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact. If one really doesn't mind having a sleepless night, watch the video interview with Jeff Nyquist in post #756 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336531&viewfull=1#post1336531). OMG. There's a ton of pretty important stuff in there about Russian and Chinese military strategy that I'd never known. That really is scary (terrifying, even) — and might be all too real.

And that's not on CNN, either. :) My suspicion about the world in general is that the really scary stuff is usually hidden from us... not flaunted in our faces.

I also felt a major chill when listening to Jeff Nyquist.

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This is heartrending and scary unless people sleep like that and are just homeless....

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[AutumnW]

Epoch Times

The information below has been well researched, over a period of years. I will provide more on different media outlets if anyone so desires. This doesn't mean that all of their sources and contributors have the same bias, or are propagandists. Laurie Garrett appears to be completely sincere, apolitical and think she is to be trusted.

But....here is more on the Epoch Times, to just keep in your back pocket.


Epoch Times is the propaganda vehicle behind Falun Gong.

From Global Research

Among the foreign (predominantly Western) Friends of Falun Gong, we find the likes of Mark Palmer of Freedom House. Freedom House is a quasi-intelligence front created by the CIA-connected Open Society Institute of elite George Soros.

In addition to Palmer, Freedom House has counted among its top management the former CIA Director James Woolsey, neocons Bernie Aronson and Diana Negroponte, super elite Zbigniew Brzezinski, former Clinton National Security Advisor Anthony Lake, Clinton Commerce Secretary Stuart Eizenstat, and the late Congressman Tom Lantos and his wife.

Freedom House is backed by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which former CIA agent Philip Agee, and many others have amply documented, is a US intelligence apparatus that has been a driving force behind opposition forces (“democracy revolutions”) in many countries.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-cia-behind-the-china-bashing-olympics-protests/8656

From the New Republic:

Albrecht got was a rare look into the strange and secretive world of the newspaper, which was founded by practitioners of the Falun Gong spiritual discipline that originated in China. The Times’ staff members Albrecht met in the Berlin office were all devotees of Falun Gong. Every day at 6 p.m., a bell rang, and everyone in the newsroom stopped what they were doing, sat at their desks, and meditated.

https://newrepublic.com/article/155076/obscure-newspaper-fueling-far-right-europe

[Delight]

This is THE MOST SCARY THING I HAVE SEEN!!!! Peter Hotez, who has been lying about what is in vaccines (saline and a little antigen), is almost Promising mandatory flu and measles vaccination in the name of the new Corona virus threat.

Infectious disease expert warns of potential triple epidemic facing Americans
Feb. 17, 2020 - 3:52 - The coronavirus, flu and measles could pose simultaneous threat to U.S. in the coming months, says Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine. (https://video.foxnews.com/v/6133253022001#sp=show-clips)

[ExomatrixTV]

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[frankstien]

The plot gets thicker--

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https://www.checktheevidence.com/wordpress/2020/02/16/corona-virus-coincidences-and-connections/

"This is beyond eerie. A 1981 thriller by Dean Koontz predicted the #Coronavirus nightmare, pinpointing it to supposedly biological weapons labs in China’s Wuhan"
https://www.checktheevidence.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/image001.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Darkness-Thriller-Dean-Koontz/dp/0425224864/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=eyes+of+darkness+by+dean+koontz&qid=1581991607&s=books&sr=1-1
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[Delight]

5G is a danger IMO, But these people were never in Wuhan...


11 infected on Tokyo tour boat, likely transmitted coronavirus to non-passengers
February 17, 2020 (Mainichi Japan) (https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200217/p2a/00m/0na/012000c)


TOKYO -- A sudden spike in new coronavirus cases was confirmed among attendees at a New Year's party for independent taxi drivers held on a traditional "yakatabune" river tour boat in the capital.

The Tokyo Metropolitan Government says the virus may be spreading in the capital, as people not at the party -- including an office worker and a chauffeur -- were also confirmed infected, and is calling for measures to prevent transmission. It provided information on the route of infection among party attendees at a Feb. 16 press conference.

The New Year's party was held on Jan. 18 by a branch of a private taxi union based in Tokyo's Jonan area, and was attended by about 70 taxi drivers and their families who dined on the boat. However, the windows were shut due to heavy rain, creating a confined space with insufficient ventilation -- the kind of environment where disease spreads more easily.

The metropolitan government has been conducting tests on around 200 people involved in the party, on the assumption that the infection had spread on the yakatabune boat.

An independent taxi driver in his 70s, who participated in the party along with his wife, had tested positive in Tokyo. He is the son-in-law of a woman in her 80s from Kanagawa Prefecture, south of Tokyo, who died on Feb. 13 -- Japan's first confirmed fatality from the COVID-19 illness.

The metropolitan government began investigating in the wake of the woman's death, and had confirmed 11 participants and yakatabune employees were infected with the coronavirus as of Feb. 16.

Two people who were not onboard the tourist boat also tested positive for the new virus: a female employee with the union branch in her 50s, who had contact with the taxi driver at work, and a doctor in his 60s at Makita General Hospital in Tokyo's Ota Ward.

A nurse at the hospital who tested positive for coronavirus on Feb. 15 had attended the New Year's party as a family member of one of the taxi drivers. The doctor had dined with the nurse along with other people on three occasions in late January.

(Japanese original by Koichi Uchida and Yoshikazu Takeuchi, Tokyo City News Department)

[Franny]

This sort of foolishness is way past its sell-by date.

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[ExomatrixTV]

Coronavirus is the Globalist Answer to Mass Awakening?


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Alex Jones breaks down the public agenda of the globalists to cull the population and dispel opposition to their total domination.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Denise/Dizi]

Post partially self edited to remove duplicate information...

There is a channel I subscribe to on youtube... The channel is Vrillex.. he usually talks about some very unusual topics, but he has been gathering footage from the crisis, and posting it for us to see, as we will not be shown this footage on prime time news... It is heart breaking and devastating.. and we need to know how bad it truly is...

There are 7 videos thus far.. Some are very graphic, as it shows the collection of the bodies that we are not hearing about... including children... He does warn you before they appear.. These videos are really worth watching to get a true sense of what they're experiencing as well... This is no "Flu"


I don't think I can load 7 videos on one post, so I will upload the last one, number seven, and share the links for the previous 6 for those who wish to watch after seeing the last. It is worth the time..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz5qfD9L4Bo

And the other 6... going backwards, more recent to the older ones.


6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik0uRxY5Zto

5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN3xUUn2sq4

4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovCt5gUb1Cg

3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeVLkvhg3SI

2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk2WZOPiwXs

1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSWUd8uu20

[Philippe]

I saw this today, and read it. If it is true, it is horrifying for those there. And wherever it possibly spreads to..

I don't know how bad it truly is, but it doesn't look good, if there is any validity to the article.... You must scroll down. But the entire article is there.

It is from a supposed whistleblower from inside the Chinese government, who claims he knows all about what this is, and how it happened... I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but it is worth a read... so I thought I would share it.. and see what you guys think. Seems sensationalized, but you never know?

If already posted, please let me know, or ask a moderator to delete this post entirely as I have yet to read the whole thread, as there are so many pages!...


https://ufospotlight.wordpress.com/2020/02/13/chinese-intelligence-officer-reveals-true-magnitude-of-chinas-coronavirus-crisis/?fbclid=IwAR2mjR61ACFAy5INAiSD2Yk5iEFN06aZDyugvfSW F4aIEmvJSulm-uxeBoI

I read this rapport now about what really went wrong in China. The rapport is nearly too perfectly formulated for an individual who went through and still is in such terror situation. But I am afraid it is true, it is certainly in the line of thought of what such a regime would do.

On the philosophical side and to react to this question posted:
Coronavirus is the Globalist Answer to Mass Awakening?
The masses have a new chance to become awake. Cataclysms that destroyed civilization have happened before. Atlantis, the destruction on Mars and long long before that even worse. The people in general would not listen, we are getting a new chance to overcome.

[pueblo]

So, the Chinese brought in a mandatory vaccination law in December 2019...


According to the Law, China is to implement a state immunization program, and residents living within the territory of China are legally obligated to be vaccinated with immunization program vaccines, which are provided by the government free of charge. Local governments and parents or other guardians of children must ensure that children be vaccinated with the immunization program vaccines (art. 6).

https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/china-vaccine-law-passed/

There seems to be some evidence that an experimental vaccine for Sars could be the cause of the apparent hyper-sensitivity of the Wuhan/Chinese populations to 2019-N CoV....


“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22536382


"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/12/2/135/htm

So they discovered that re-infecting the vaccinated mice 54 weeks later caused pathological changes in the lungs......hmmmmmmm.

Could this explain why we have only seen 4 out of the total 1800 deaths so far, occur outside China?

[Did You See Them]

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This is heartrending and scary unless people sleep like that and are just homeless....

1229279733805985792


JUST THE HOMELESS ! (poor souls) My home city in UK looks like that at 7.30am when I'm on way in to work !
( BTW - at 27 secs in to video one of the "Bodies" moves his feet ! )

[Tintin]

So, the Chinese brought in a mandatory vaccination law in December 2019...


According to the Law, China is to implement a state immunization program, and residents living within the territory of China are legally obligated to be vaccinated with immunization program vaccines, which are provided by the government free of charge. Local governments and parents or other guardians of children must ensure that children be vaccinated with the immunization program vaccines (art. 6).

https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/china-vaccine-law-passed/

There seems to be some evidence that an experimental vaccine for Sars could be the cause of the apparent hyper-sensitivity of the Wuhan/Chinese populations to 2019-N CoV....


“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22536382


"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/12/2/135/htm

So they discovered that re-infecting the vaccinated mice 54 weeks later caused pathological changes in the lungs......hmmmmmmm.

Could this explain why we have only seen 4 out of the total 1800 deaths so far, occur outside China?

A really good post this and thank you. :thumbsup:

I am periodically very selectively adding content to the library and have now placed these three important documents in here:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/

They should be easy enough to find.

I'm dithering a little as to whether to change the folder name to reflect Covid-19 nomenclature but in the grand scheme of things this is not ever so important right now.

[Bill Ryan]

I saw this today, and read it. If it is true, it is horrifying for those there. And wherever it possibly spreads to..

I don't know how bad it truly is, but it doesn't look good, if there is any validity to the article.... You must scroll down. But the entire article is there.

It is from a supposed whistleblower from inside the Chinese government, who claims he knows all about what this is, and how it happened... I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but it is worth a read... so I thought I would share it.. and see what you guys think. Seems sensationalized, but you never know?

If already posted, please let me know, or ask a moderator to delete this post entirely as I have yet to read the whole thread, as there are so many pages!...

https://ufospotlight.wordpress.com/2020/02/13/chinese-intelligence-officer-reveals-true-magnitude-of-chinas-coronavirus-crisis

Many thanks, yes — this was posted (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1336228#post1336228) a little earlier, and I replied (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336230&viewfull=1#post1336230). It's nonsense, and Robert Morningstar (a respected and seasoned UFO researcher) should know better. No "Chinese intelligence officer" would ever write like that.

[Bill Ryan]

A few predictions and speculations from myself. (For what they're worth — maybe very little! :) )

1) The markets have been climbing. Of course, that's because they're being propped up artificially to avoid panic. And big institutions, seeing this, are jumping on that bandwagon to invest, knowing they're rising.

But at some point soon, this is going to fall out of the sky. Then everyone, already watching very carefully, will sell all at once and take their short-term profits. Then there'll be very sharp, large drops which may be unstoppable.

2) The WHO will declare this a pandemic as soon as (1) the first non-Egypt African cases are reported, and also (2) the first South American cases. Then all formal definitions are met. They'll have no choice.

3) At that point, the mainstream will make that a very major headline. (For almost the first time!) The WHO pandemic announcement and the market drops will all happen at pretty much the same time.

4) Then, we'll see a bunch of feature TV programs, and major articles (Time, Newsweek, Fortune, etc), all looking into the medium-term future. Everyone will start talking about this.

5) This is more speculative, but I do think the Chinese regime may fall. If so: no bad thing, at ALL. :Party:

6) But the big impact will be the closure of the 'world's factory' on 1001 (or 100001) items we all take for granted as always readily available — including electronics, cars, household appliances, and almost everything made of plastic.

7) And even more speculative: IF the Chinese regime really does have its back against the wall, and IF they suspect (or know) this is a biowarfare attack against them (which it may or may not be) — then, see this chilling Jeff Nyquist interview in post #756 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336531&viewfull=1#post1336531). — there may be a major global firefight coming.

It'd argue this is extremely unlikely... but may not be totally impossible. If China really was going under, and the US had intended and engineered that, then China would just launch every weapon it had to make sure they're not going down alone. (Watch Joseph Farrell: I suspect he may agree that this could be theoretically possible.)

[pueblo]

1) The markets have been climbing. Of course, that's because they're being propped up artificially to avoid panic. And big institutions, seeing this, are jumping on that bandwagon to invest, knowing they're rising.


Correct, but the cracks are starting to show!

The world's 3rd largest economy (Japan) shrank 6.3% between Oct - Dec 2019


Japan recession fears grow as GDP shrinks at 6.3% rate with COVID-19 hit to come
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/17/business/economy-business/sales-tax-hike-japan-economy-gdp/#.Xkv4pC2cZQI

[spade]

It'd argue this is extremely unlikely... but may not be totally impossible. If China really was going under, and the US had intended and engineered that, then China would just launch every weapon it had to make sure they're not going down alone. (Watch Joseph Farrell: I suspect he may agree that this could be theoretically possible.)

This is unlikely if the whole top tier regime catches it as well... they'd be too weak to launch those weapons. Heard on the ground people have already nicknamed the virus Xi's Disease.

[James]

I’m not too troubled by the actual threat the virus poses - do read my post on the Anglo Saxon Mission thread - however, the geopolitical ramifications of this are immense for both the East and the West.

I import commercial and residential furniture from China, and right now, the factories I work with aren’t even open. I don’t trust the date they’ve provided me as to when they’ll reopen, well, for obvious reasons...

I’m shifting to Vietnam for production going forward, not just because of the virus, but because of 25% tariffs, and I’m sure others are in the same situation as me. Many, many others.

This coupled with the fact the Chinese government is on shaky ground with their citizens’ trust from recent events - I think the true cost of this virus may be the fact it destabilizes a world power. Long games only work if you have enough pieces to play, and I do wonder how China’s economy will fair after this whole thing settles down. If the import business starts to slow, this could truly cripple China’s robust prowess and reach economically - at least for a while.

Resources are great, but it’s the processing of said resources that yields power to the geography where that is occurring. Just ask Russia ;)

[James]

In the meantime... a healthy 8 hours of sleep per night, sufficient blood levels of Vitamin D (20 nanograms/milliliter to 50 ng/mL), and proper management of distress will do wonders for the immune system :sun:

And the occasional dip in icy cold water!!

[Bill Ryan]

I’m not too troubled by the actual threat the virus poses - do read my post on the Anglo Saxon Mission thread - however, the geopolitical ramifications of this are immense for both the East and the West.

I import commercial and residential furniture from China, and right now, the factories I work with aren’t even open. I don’t trust the date they’ve provided me as to when they’ll reopen, well, for obvious reasons...

I’m shifting to Vietnam for production going forward.Yes. Not enough people are talking about this. (Yet!)

It's one thing to change to a supplier in another country for things like furniture, fabrics or plastics. That's not so daunting.

Electronics and similar complex components are a different matter, because the very materials to produce those items (and make them, such as highly sophisticated robotic factory lines) are ALSO made or sourced in China.

One can't suddenly look in Vietnam or Cambodia for circuit boards, car parts (or truck/ bus/ heavy machinery/ airplane parts!), or medical supplies and modern equipment for hospitals.

Dr Gary Ridenour has called this the "can of beans" principle. Meaning, consider how a can of beans gets to the supermarket shelf where you can actually buy the thing and take it home.


The beans have to be harvested, using farm machinery that needs spare parts and fuel, and experienced operators.
Then the beans have to be transported, in trucks that need spare parts and fuel, and experienced operators, to a factory.
That factory needs personnel, who can drive to work, assuming there's fuel in their cars, and they're not sick.
Meanwhile, the cans are made from iron, tin and carbon (usually), and those minerals have to be imported from elsewhere in the world, a long supply chain that starts with workers in Africa, Asia or South America using heavy machinery to dig the raw ore out of the ground.
And so on. (And on, and on, and on.) If any of those many dominoes are missing, or don't connect properly with all the others in the long line, then there are no more cans of beans.

[spade]

Vietnamese are ethnically chinese as well.... i hope the virus doesnt shut them down too, for the past 10 years, many Chinese operations have been shifting their own operations to Vietnam... due to the lower labour costs and less governmental interference. this makes parts of Vietnam quite environmentally toxic as well unfortunately - just watched this fairly insightful episode

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[Bill Ryan]

878850732568387Many thanks... this is important. :thumbsup:

[Tintin]

From Bill, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336561&viewfull=1#post1336561):



"We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact. If one really doesn't mind having a sleepless night, watch the video interview with Jeff Nyquist in post #756 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336531&viewfull=1#post1336531). OMG. There's a ton of pretty important stuff in there about Russian and Chinese military strategy that I'd never known. That really is scary (terrifying, even) — and might be all too real."

The speech referred to in the linked video post #756 in the Avalon Library in a standalone folder, originally published online by Rense.com:

Link: http://avalonlibrary.net/Speech_By_Comrade_Chi_Haotian_Vice-Chairman_of_China_Military_Commission_(2005)/Speech_By_Comrade_Chi_Haotian_Vice-Chairman_of_China_Military_Commission_(2005).pdf

http://avalonlibrary.net/Speech_By_Comrade_Chi_Haotian_Vice-Chairman_of_China_Military_Commission_(2005)/Speech_By_Comrade_Chi_Haotian_Vice-Chairman_of_China_Military_Commission_(2005).pdf

[Dick]

Have you seen the links below this video, they are all fear promoted headlines, starting with: Breaking....... i don’t know......??

I mean at post nr 792

[Pam]

I’m not too troubled by the actual threat the virus poses - do read my post on the Anglo Saxon Mission thread - however, the geopolitical ramifications of this are immense for both the East and the West.

I import commercial and residential furniture from China, and right now, the factories I work with aren’t even open. I don’t trust the date they’ve provided me as to when they’ll reopen, well, for obvious reasons...

I’m shifting to Vietnam for production going forward.Yes. Not enough people are talking about this. (Yet!)

It's one thing to change to a supplier in another country for things like furniture, fabrics or plastics. That's not so daunting.

Electronics and similar complex components are a different matter, because the very materials to produce those items (and make them, such as highly sophisticated robotic factory lines) are ALSO made or sourced in China.

One can't suddenly look in Vietnam or Cambodia for circuit boards, car parts (or truck/ bus/ heavy machinery/ airplane parts!), or medical supplies and modern equipment for hospitals.

Dr Gary Ridenour has called this the "can of beans" principle. Meaning, consider how a can of beans gets to the supermarket shelf where you can actually buy the thing and take it home.


The beans have to be harvested, using farm machinery that needs spare parts and fuel, and experienced operators.
Then the beans have to be transported, in trucks that need spare parts and fuel, and experienced operators, to a factory.
That factory needs personnel, who can drive to work, assuming there's fuel in their cars, and they're not sick.
Meanwhile, the cans are made from iron, tin and carbon (usually), and those minerals have to be imported from elsewhere in the world, a long supply chain that starts with workers in Africa, Asia or South America using heavy machinery to dig the raw ore out of the ground.
And so on. (And on, and on, and on.) If any of those many dominoes are missing, or don't connect properly with all the others in the long line, then there are no more cans of beans.



I think many of us are going to be shocked at how the supply chain will be interrupted. To be honest, I had no idea that most of the ingredients in medication come from China. I went to the store today and stocked up on TP and paper towels. I have decided to get new tires for my car now rather than later. It's kind of challenging trying to figure out which supplies we will most likely find unavailable or in short supply. I have also been buying some non perishable food. I figure if I don't end up needing it I will just use it over time or donate it to a food bank

It seems you can't just look at a product and immediately determine if China is involved in the process of making it in some way. I am now wondering about Dog food that is supposedly made in the US? I normally make my own dog food but I feel like having kibble as a back up will be good. Are the ingredients actually from China, do they just mix it together in the US (in my case, as I live in the US)?

[Iloveyou]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact.


A few predictions and speculations from myself . . . . .

Bill, I‘m convinced now of what I‘ve been suspecting for quite a while: I’m on a totally different timeline than you, meanwhile, though still close enough to talk to you via the net :) Just saying . . .

[Bill Ryan]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact.


A few predictions and speculations from myself . . . . .

Bill, I‘m convinced now of which I‘ve suspected for quite a while: I’m on a totally different timeline than you, meanwhile, though still close enough to talk to you via the net :) Just saying . . .I understand! :heart:

When I plan to go hiking in the mountains, I check the weather forecast. I never hope for bad weather! :) But I always need to know what it's likely to be, so I can make the best, safe decisions.

[spade]

I’m not too troubled by the actual threat the virus poses - do read my post on the Anglo Saxon Mission thread - however, the geopolitical ramifications of this are immense for both the East and the West.

I import commercial and residential furniture from China, and right now, the factories I work with aren’t even open. I don’t trust the date they’ve provided me as to when they’ll reopen, well, for obvious reasons...

I’m shifting to Vietnam for production going forward.Yes. Not enough people are talking about this. (Yet!)

It's one thing to change to a supplier in another country for things like furniture, fabrics or plastics. That's not so daunting.

Electronics and similar complex components are a different matter, because the very materials to produce those items (and make them, such as highly sophisticated robotic factory lines) are ALSO made or sourced in China.

One can't suddenly look in Vietnam or Cambodia for circuit boards, car parts (or truck/ bus/ heavy machinery/ airplane parts!), or medical supplies and modern equipment for hospitals.

Dr Gary Ridenour has called this the "can of beans" principle. Meaning, consider how a can of beans gets to the supermarket shelf where you can actually buy the thing and take it home.


The beans have to be harvested, using farm machinery that needs spare parts and fuel, and experienced operators.
Then the beans have to be transported, in trucks that need spare parts and fuel, and experienced operators, to a factory.
That factory needs personnel, who can drive to work, assuming there's fuel in their cars, and they're not sick.
Meanwhile, the cans are made from iron, tin and carbon (usually), and those minerals have to be imported from elsewhere in the world, a long supply chain that starts with workers in Africa, Asia or South America using heavy machinery to dig the raw ore out of the ground.
And so on. (And on, and on, and on.) If any of those many dominoes are missing, or don't connect properly with all the others in the long line, then there are no more cans of beans.



I think many of us are going to be shocked at how the supply chain will be interrupted. To be honest, I had no idea that most of the ingredients in medication come from China. I went to the store today and stocked up on TP and paper towels. I have decided to get new tires for my car now rather than later. It's kind of challenging trying to figure out which supplies we will most likely find unavailable or in short supply. I have also been buying some non perishable food. I figure if I don't end up needing it I will just use it over time or donate it to a food bank

It seems you can't just look at a product and immediately determine if China is involved in the process of making it in some way. I am now wondering about Dog food that is supposedly made in the US? I normally make my own dog food but I feel like having kibble as a back up will be good. Are the ingredients actually from China, do they just mix it together in the US (in my case, as I live in the US)?

I hope you're not right on the med ingredients coming only from China - as it seems one of JS' recent posts said that most of his crop of medical drugs were made in Mexico, so hopefully the ingredient source was also Mexican derived, and depending on the right way of production (most ingredients of mainstream medical drugs are petrochemically and synthetically derived - just changing molecular sequences to produce a different drug). The meds he listed were azitromycina, cefalexina, cipro, clindamycin, dicloxicilin, metronizado and posipen.

[Bill Ryan]

I hope you're not right on the med ingredients coming only from China


https://nbcnews.com/health/health-care/u-s-officials-worried-about-chinese-control-american-drug-supply-n1052376



U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply

"Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

(article continues here (https://nbcnews.com/health/health-care/u-s-officials-worried-about-chinese-control-american-drug-supply-n1052376))

A note: I'm just illustrating the point. I'm no fan of allopathic drugs! :) But when I had appendicitis a couple of years ago, I did have to go under anesthetic, and before that I needed a CAT scan and ultrasound (Doppler) scans. If that equipment hadn't been working, and the anesthetic wasn't available, I might not be here now.

[Dennis Leahy]

The plot gets thicker--

...



"This is beyond eerie. A 1981 thriller by Dean Koontz predicted the #Coronavirus nightmare, pinpointing it to supposedly biological weapons labs in China’s Wuhan"
https://www.checktheevidence.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/image001.jpg
...

This is an absolutely stunning find, frankstien. I'm truly "gobsmacked" by this. Thanks so much for posting this. The odds of this being simply clever writing by Koontz are about a google to one.

[spade]

Yes parts of the med system has its uses, such as surgery, wounds, physical injury... but the allopathic drugs are to be avoided for sure - they serve a different agenda not run by the doctors. BG John Adams was just making a blanket statement and probably with a huge dose of propaganda. Generic Allopathic Drugs are manufactured all over the world, a lot of them right here in South East Asia... Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand. China is just one of them... Don't you think Big Pharma started this "pandemic", would have not pre-planned this "shortage" in the slightest sense? - they probably want to increase the prices of drugs globally. Anyway, some good news - JS' has just declared that the CoronaVirus is over as he was looking at the Cruise ship off the coast of Japan with the intention of releasing the passengers tomorrow - as an indicative flag. I certainly hope that it is over.

[Bill Ryan]

A 4 minute audio from NPR called Troll Watch: Misinformation around the Coronavirus. (15 Feb 2020)

I post it without comment. :)


http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/NPR_Troll_Watch_Misinformation_around_the_Coronavirus_15_Feb_2020.mp3

A transcript is below, from this page:


https://npr.org/2020/02/15/806365997/troll-watch-misinformation-around-the-coronavirus

LEILA FADEL, HOST:
The disease caused by coronavirus has killed more than 1,500 people and has spread beyond China. But the World Health Organization says there's another threat spreading faster - false information. They've called the spread of misinformation about the disease an infodemic. And we wanted to learn more about how coronavirus misinformation is spreading online, so we're going to discuss it in our regular segment Troll Watch.

FADEL: Carl Bergstrom is a professor of biology at the University of Washington. He researches the spread of scientific disinformation on social media and has been looking at coronavirus misinformation. He's with us now from member station KUOW in Seattle.
Welcome to the program.

CARL BERGSTROM: Thanks a lot, Leila. It's great to be here.

FADEL: What are the myths that are out there? Let's start there.

BERGSTROM: Well, there's a wide range of different stories that are out there. They range from misinformation about - simply about the rate at which the disease is spreading, misinformation about how many people it's killing. And then you get some really wild stuff out there like stories that it might have been a bio-weapon - it is not - sort of anything that could capture the imagination, get people scared, get people to spread them further.

FADEL: So what's behind all this disinformation, this misinformation? What's behind it?

BERGSTROM: This is a really fascinating case because there are a whole bunch of different sources of misinformation, and they have a whole bunch of different motives. Disingenuous actors - they want to spread misinformation to make China look as bad as possible and decrease trust of people within China for their own government and decrease trust from people outside of China for the Chinese government. They could potentially lead to various kinds of disruptions of, you know, normal international relations or normal international commerce and so forth.

FADEL: Right.

BERGSTROM: Then you get people that are simply spreading misinformation for profit, using this to sell, you know, snake oil treatments of various kinds. And then finally, there are a lot of well-meaning people that are scared and are not able to get good information and are sharing that because they're trying to take care of their friends and family, which is a very natural human emotion, of course.

FADEL: Why does this misinformation spread so quickly?

BERGSTROM: One of the things that's making the misinformation spread so quickly in this particular case is that there's a information vacuum. There's a ton of uncertainty surrounding what's actually going on with this virus. People are looking for answers that provide certainty. Most experts are unwilling to give answers like that because we simply don't know. I can give you a very broad range of how infectious the disease might be, how many people it might reach, how likely it is to kill you. But I can't give you a sharp number.

What people really want to hear are these sharp numbers, and if someone makes them up and states them in ways that seem authoritative, those are the kinds of pieces of misinformation that are likely to go spreading rapidly across social media.

FADEL: What happens when you get that wrong information?

BERGSTROM: I think there are a whole bunch of things that go wrong when a - when the public gets misinformation about a epidemic like this. One is, of course, people may believe that they should be spending their money on some kind of bizarre health tonic that'll protect them when it actually won't.

Another risk is misinformation can drive bad policy decisions. So if people believe that this is a very, very dangerous disease that's spreading very, very rapidly that might be able to be controlled by strict nation-level quarantines, that can drive hardcore isolationist policies that will not necessarily help control the spread of the disease - could even make it worse.

FADEL: So how do you even start combating this misinformation? We see that it spreads so fast. And frankly, it often looks like it's coming from somewhere that's reliable.

BERGSTROM: The main thing that I would encourage people to do is to try to pay attention to trusted media sources.

FADEL: Have you at any point seen mainstream media, fact-based media amplifying some of these stories that are out there?

BERGSTROM: Of course. Especially in a fast-breaking situation like this, it's inevitable that, you know, fact-based media make these mistakes. We even see cases where top scientific journals in the world publish things that turn out to be false because we simply don't have the best possible information as fast as we want it, and there's a premium on immediacy.

What's good is they very, very rapidly are corrected. Taking information that may be 12 or 24 hours old from fact-based media is often a much safer strategy than trying to find information from the last hour in the swamp of misinformation that social media represents right now.

FADEL: Carl Bergstrom is a professor of biology at the University of Washington. He was with us from member station KUOW in Seattle. Professor, thanks for joining us.

BERGSTROM: Thank you. It was great talking to you, Leila.

[Bill Ryan]

And on the subject of misinformation, here's a good article about Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus and the WHO.


https://epsilontheory.com/the-industrially-necessary-doctor-tedros

The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros
16 Feb, 2020

https://epsilontheory.com/wp-content/uploads/tedros-wave-768x576.jpg


The World Health Organisation will lead a mission to China this weekend to start investigating the COVID-19 outbreak.
Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/world-health-organisation-heads-for-china-to-investigate-coronavirus-11934450?), FEBRUARY 15, 2020


“start investigating” … AYFKM?*

* https://noslang.com/search/ayfkm :)

There’s this pleasing mythology out there that the World Health Organization is like some international version of the Center for Disease Control, that it’s staffed by scientists and doctors flying all over the world and racing against the clock to battle infectious diseases and – against all odds – find The Cure.

https://www.epsilontheory.com/wp-content/uploads/contagion-movie.png

I mean, that’s an actual subplot of Contagion, where an intrepid WHO scientist tracks down the disease origin in Hong Kong, goes to the remote Chinese village where all of the children are sick (the children!), is taken prisoner, and works heroically (if ultimately unsuccessfully) to get vaccines to the children (the children!).

This is a crock.

The World Health Organization is a political organization, bought and paid for by its sponsor countries (China foremost among them), with a single, dominant mandate: maintain the party line.

Literally.

The truth is that WHO has done nothing more than parrot the official Chinese Communist Party line since the day the world learned of COVID-19.

The truth is that only now – TWO MONTHS INTO THE EPIDEMIC – is WHO sending a “team” to “start investigating” the virus.

To be sure, WHO’s Director General, Dr. Tedros, has been to China several times since the disease broke out, glad-handing (again, literally) President Xi and all the other CCP mandarins.

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So … I’m not going to get into the way China lobbied and pressured the UN to get Dr. Tedros appointed as WHO Director General, succeeding their hand-picked (again, literally) Director General, Margaret Chan, despite credible accusations that Tedros had covered up cholera outbreaks in his home country of Ethiopia. If you want to get into that, you can read this New York Times article: Candidate to Lead the W.H.O. Accused of Covering Up Epidemics (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/health/candidate-who-director-general-ethiopia-cholera-outbreaks.html?).

And … I’m not going to get into the way Dr. Tedros appointed freakin’ Robert Mugabe as a Good-Will Ambassador for the World Health Organization, a toady move that was greeted by healthcare professionals (and anyone with a soul) as “a sick joke”. If you want to get into that, you can read this New York Times article: After Making Mugabe a ‘Good-Will Ambassador,’ W.H.O. Chief Is ‘Rethinking’ It (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/world/africa/robert-mugabe-goodwill-ambassador-who.html?).

No, no … I’m just going to highlight what Dr. Tedros said at the WHO Executive Board meeting in Geneva on February 4, a week after meeting with Xi in Beijing and a few days after senior Chinese diplomats started talking about the “racism” inherent in other countries stopping flights to China and denying visas to people with Chinese passports issued in Hubei province.

Tedros said there was no need for measures that “unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade,” and he specifically said that stopping flights and restricting Chinese travel abroad was “counter-productive” to fighting the global spread of the virus.

This is the Director General of the World Health Organization. On February 4th.

“We call on all countries to implement decisions that are evidence-based and consistent,” said Tedros. Roger that.

There’s just one problem.

The “evidence” here – taken without adjustment or question from the CCP – was a baldfaced lie.

And everyone at WHO knew it.

How do I know that everyone at WHO knew that the official Chinese numbers were a crock on Feb. 4?

Because WHO-sponsored doctors in Hong Kong published independent studies on Jan. 31 showing that the official Chinese numbers were a crock.

https://thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext)

Money quotes:
In our baseline scenario, we estimated that the basic reproductive number for 2019-nCoV was 2.68 (95% CrI 2.47–2.86) and that 75,815 individuals (95% CrI 37,304–130,330) have been infected in Wuhan as of Jan 25, 2020.
If the transmissibility of 2019-nCoV were similar everywhere domestically and over time, we inferred that epidemics are already growing exponentially in multiple major cities of China with a lag time behind the Wuhan outbreak of about 1–2 weeks.
I’ve attached a PDF of the full report here: Lancet nCov2019 Model (https://www.epsilontheory.com/download/26292/).

This is what it looks like when the narrative tail of personal and professional corruption (must support my Chinese benefactors!) wags the public policy dog (sure, I’ll recommend that flights and visas should continue, based on evidence I know is false!).

Will this disease spread farther and faster … will more people DIE … because WHO Director General Tedros recommended as best practice on February 4th that flights and visa issuance in and out of China continue without significant disruption?

Yes. I think so.

And yet … and yet … we are told that the REAL DANGER for public health is questioning the official Chinese line and these Stepin Fetchit policy recommendations of Dr. Tedros.

Here’s what Tedros wrote in a South China Morning Post op-ed piece (https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3050080/coronavirus-how-who-leading-social-media-fight-against) THREE DAYS AGO:
In addition, a wider strategy is needed to debunk pseudoscience and strengthen trust in everything from vaccination to public institutions. Misinformation thrives where trust in the authorities is weak.
In a fast-evolving disease outbreak, there is a fine line between the deliberate spread of misinformation and the well-intentioned but potentially still damaging redistribution of false claims.
And here’s a Reuters article (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-fake-idUSKBN208028), also from three days ago:
The rise of “fake news” – including misinformation and inaccurate advice on social media – could make disease outbreaks such as the COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic currently spreading in China worse, according to research published on Friday.
In an analysis of how the spread of misinformation affects the spread of disease, scientists at Britain’s East Anglia University (UEA) said any successful efforts to stop people sharing fake news could help save lives.
And what is this “fake news”?

Fake news is now defined as anything that disputes WHO data, which means that fake news is now defined as anything that disputes the official China party line.

Why did China spend so much money to buy off the World Health Organization? This:
The World Health Organization is working with Google to ensure that people get facts from WHO first when they search for information about the new virus that recently emerged in China.
Since the outbreak began, a number of misleading claims and hoaxes about the virus have circulated online. They include false conspiracy theories that the virus was created in a lab and that vaccines have already been manufactured, exaggerations about the number of sick and dead, and claims about bogus cures.
Associated Press (http://www.looptt.com/content/who-working-google-combat-virus-misinformation), Feb. 3, 2020It’s not just Google. It’s also Ten Cent. It’s also Facebook. It’s also Twitter.

And no, you’re not misreading the clear narrative intent of these articles.

Where possible, China wants to criminalize any speech … any social media … that does not follow the official party line. Where it’s not possible to criminalize that speech, China wants to ban it through the cooperative censorship of global tech and media platforms. Where it’s not possible to ban that speech, China wants to shame it into the shadows by getting us to reject it as “fake news”.

And if you don’t see that the United States is about two minutes behind China in doing the same damn thing, then you’re just not paying attention.

I am certain that there are plenty of good people at WHO, and I am certain that they do good and important work, particularly in funneling money and resources to actual researchers and actual clinical programs.

But what is happening at the most senior levels of the World Health Organization is not just a disgrace. It is not just a humiliation for the people who are doing good and important work.

It is a betrayal of the entire world.

What’s to be done?

Getting Tedros the man out of the World Health Organization will feel good, and he deserves all the ignominy that’s coming his way, but it will accomplish nothing.

No, to accomplish anything here, we need to get rid of The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros.

See, the actual human being named Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesusis is not The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros. The human Tedros is just another on-the-make politician, one of a zillion Renfields who sell their soul on the daily. Sure, he was tapped by his Chinese patrons to play the role of The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros, but if it hadn’t been him, there were plenty of other guys and gals to take his place.

We must look through Tedros the man to see the Nudging Oligarchy and the Nudging State that created The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros.

We must look through so many of the ideas we take to be immutable truths of safety or goodness – whether those truths concern the food we eat or the stocks we buy or the health we seek to preserve – and recognize that they are not truths at all!

They are conveniences, and not conveniences for us, but for the sellers of the food we eat or the stocks we buy or the health we seek to preserve.

THAT’S what it means to be Industrially Necessary – a constructed social practice in service to those who would subvert our autonomy of mind and will, presented to us as Truth-with-a-capital-T by Missionaries who shake their finger at us and tell us HOW to think about the world.

https://www.epsilontheory.com/wp-content/uploads/tedros-finger-pointing.jpg
https://www.epsilontheory.com/wp-content/uploads/missionaries-3.png Once you start looking for The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros, you will see him everywhere.

And that’s when your world starts to change.

PS. If you haven’t yet read our original note on how we can tell the Chinese data on COVID-19 is false, here you go:

Body Count (https://www.epsilontheory.com/body-count/)

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China is fighting nCov2019 exactly like the US fought North Vietnam … with policy driven more by narrative control than by what’s best to win the war. That was a disastrous strategic mistake for the US then, and it’s a disastrous strategic mistake for China today. … Continue reading (https://www.epsilontheory.com/body-count/)

PPS. And if you’d like to read our core notes on the Nudging State and the Nudging Oligarchy, together with the Industrially Necessary meme …

The Industrially Necessary Egg (https://www.epsilontheory.com/notes-from-the-field/)

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In modern farming and in modern investing, we have become prisoners of the monoculture. It’s efficient. It’s necessary for a mass society of ever-increasing Desire. But here’s the thing. In the investment monoculture, you’re not the farmer. … Continue reading (https://www.epsilontheory.com/notes-from-the-field/)

Clever Hans (https://www.epsilontheory.com/clever-hans/)

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You don’t break a wild horse by crushing its spirit. You nudge it into willingly surrendering its autonomy. Because once you’re trained to welcome the saddle, you’re going to take the bit. We are Clever Hans, dutifully hanging on every word or signal from the Nudging State and the Nudging Oligarchy as we stomp out our behavior. … Continue reading (https://www.epsilontheory.com/clever-hans/)

[Iloveyou]

„There seems to have been a policy-driven reorientation from Russophibia (where it has been high time for the US to silently admit defeat and move on) to Sinophobia (where the US is yet to have its ass handed to it on a plate).„

Some inconclusive thoughts from Dmitry Orlov 2020-02-17

A Most Convenient Virus: Genetically-engineered Bioweapon?

https://www.21cir.com/2020/02/a-most-convenient-virus-a-genetically-engineered-bioweapon/

[onawah]

How are viruses discovered and identified in the first place?
Feb 18 2020
by Jon Rappoport
The earthshaking Etienne De Harven interview by Celia Farber

( What is happening now may be unprecedented, but I think we need to understand what has gone before, before we can put it into proper context.)

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/18/how-are-viruses-discovered-and-identified-in-the-first-place/

"The question I’ve been asking since 1987—

If the experts are going to claim a particular virus causes a particular disease—how do they know that virus exists in the first place?

For example, the supposedly new coronavirus in China. For example, Ebola. For example, HIV. For example, the coronavirus supposedly causing SARS (2003). How do researchers know these viruses exist?

“Well, of course they know. They must.”

That is not a satisfactory answer—even though most people would offer it.

The question can become very interesting, when you stop and consider researchers working away in biowar labs fiddling with viruses. How do they know they’re tweaking viruses that actually exist?

On a more mundane frontier, when scientists tell us they’re rushing to develop a vaccine against a virus that is harming the population, how do they know that virus exists to begin with?

I came to this question when I was researching HIV in 1987. I began to think about it seriously in 1990. During all these years, I’ve reached out to independent researchers, and I’ve tried to stitch together their answers. I can’t say it’s been a smooth trip.

But I have found some answers; and I have certainly found some fake mainstream assertions, which glitter like baubles on plastic branches of 99-cent store Xmas trees.

Here are a few clues. You need to take a tissue sample from a live human being. You need to filter that sample correctly so you arrive at a much smaller sample you believe might contain a virus. You need to put a drop of that sample under an electron microscope and observe what looks like a virus.

How much virus? How many identical particles of virus? Opinions differ on this. It could be one definite virus, one particle. It could be many, many identical particles.

Sidebar: If you’re trying to prove this virus is actually causing DISEASE in a person, you have to go further. You have to show the very same virus is active and replicating at a very high rate in the person’s body, and his immune system isn’t defeating it. Beyond noticing the patient is sick, how do you test for all THAT? I’m still looking for a definitive technical answer—if there is one.

All right, let’s’ get back to the electron microscope. Let’s say you’ve observed many identical particles of what looks like a virus in the electron microscope photograph, called an EM. You can then say, “Found it.” But you need to be sure. You need to figure out that this virus isn’t just something that ordinarily lives in the human body like a couch potato and does nothing—a passive endogenous virus. No. You want to show this virus comes from the outside as an invader—an exogenous virus. And how do you perfectly make that differentiation every time? Another question that might have no precise formula as an answer.

Big question: CAN WE BE SURE ALL VIRUSES THAT ARE SAID TO EXIST AND SAID TO CAUSE EPIDEMICS ARE ACTUALLY FOUND AND OBSERVED AND IDENTIFIED ON ELECTRON MICROSCOPE PHOTOGRAPHS? CAN WE AT LEAST SAY THAT?

No.

In which case, the researchers have been, at least some of the time, up the creek without a paddle. They’ve jumped the gun. They’ve bolted out of the starting gate too soon. They’ve laid their money down on a horse that may not even be in the race. They’ve written a check no one can cash. They’re talking about lockdowns and quarantines without having proved their favorite virus of the moment exists. Sure, people on the back end will make big money from these unwarranted presumptions, but money is not science. It might control science, but it ISN’T science.

All right. I’ve now set the stage for an excerpt from an interview, a profound interview with a late mainstream master who, in the face of fake science, suddenly was characterized as a rebel, Etienne De Harven. The interview was conducted several years ago by the brilliant reporter, Celia Farber. You can find the whole interview here. I strongly suggest you read it sixteen times. Yes, it gets technical. You’ll also notice names of elite scientists you haven’t run across. Learn the meaning of the words you’ve never seen before. Dig in. This isn’t television-type brush-off conversation. This isn’t a YouTube throwaway.

I have another reason for exposing readers to this interview—it’s what a conversation about serious scientific issues looks like…this is what trying to bridge the gap between researchers, honest reporters, and the public looks like. There should be hundreds and thousands of such print-interviews taking place, laid before readers. They can handle it. Dumbing down people is partly an illusion: they can wake up. They WILL wake up if they’re sufficiently interested.

Etienne De Harven’s background: president of the Electron Microscopy Society of America; researcher, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center; Cornell professor of cell biology; professor of pathology, University of Toronto; recognized pioneer in the field of electron microscopy.

The interview focuses on HIV; whether it was ever found and isolated. The implications and questions spread out to any and all viruses.

DE HARVEN: Unacceptably frustrated by the total lack of success in all attempts to demonstrate virus particles in human cancer by EM, the “impresarios” of the cancer/virus “dream” (Gallo, Fauci, and others) totally engaged in the molecular approach.

Consequently, they invented molecular markers to compensate for the missing viral particles…This would have been acceptable if the specificity of these new molecular markers would have been clearly established. Unfortunately, this was not the case. The most misleading molecular marker was probably the first one, i.e. the enzyme [called] reverse transcriptase (RT). Following Temin and Baltimore 1970 papers in “Science”, the RT enzymatic activity has been, most abusively, used as a specific retroviral marker. Both Temin and Baltimore demonstrated RT activity in samples of supposedly “purified” retrovirus.

Embarrassingly, they both omitted to verify the “purity” of their samples by EM. Some of their samples were simply purchased from a commercial company… True, the label on the vials read “pure retrovirus”… However, it was known that these commercial “pure retrovirus” were heavily contaminated by cellular debris!

And since it is also known that all cells contain RT (see Varmus), cellular debris are most likely carrying similar RT enzymes.

Temin and Baltimore did not, therefore, prove that RT is a specific molecular marker for retroviruses. It would have been so simple to check, by EM, the degree of “purity” of the samples they used. This would have, most probably, shown important cell debris contamination, and would have obliged Temin and Baltimore to be much more cautious in the interpretation of their results. In 1975, the members of the Nobel Committee, most regrettably, failed to scrutinize this “purity” problem…

In 1983, at Pasteur Institute in Paris, reliance on the RT marker was a key element in the claimed “isolation” of a new retrovirus [HIV]. Still, Montagnier himself recognized “We did not purify”… He dangerously omitted to consider the misleading interference of cell debris, just as Temin and Baltimore did in 1970.

But a paper on the discovery of a new retrovirus looks much better if it contains at least… one EM picture! So, members of Montagnier’s team spent hours at the TEM [transmission electron microscope], looking at their mixed cell cultures, and they found the virus!

See Fig. 2 in their “historic” 1983 “Science” paper! It is, by the way, a good quality EM picture. It shows unquestionable retroviral particles, budding at the surface of a cell. But the legend of this Fig. 2 states that this cell is a cord blood lymphocyte. Indeed, cord blood lymphocytes were admixed to these complex cell cultures (why?)

Montagnier and his co-workers should have known that human embryonic tissues, and the placenta in particular, are very rich in endogenous retroviruses (HERVs), and that cord blood lymphocytes should therefore be expected to carry the same endogenous retroviruses (under the TEM, endogenous and exogenous viruses, looking identical, cannot be distinguished.)

The budding of these particles has perhaps been stimulated by some of the growth factors also present in these cell cultures. An essential control would have been to repeat the experiment using lymphocytes from the peripheral blood instead of from cord blood. This control is unfortunately missing.

In short, I would frankly state that the Pasteur 1983 paper (whose 30th anniversary has just been celebrated in a “grand messe” of official HIV retro-virology!) contributed very little in AIDS research because its conclusion (i.e. “the isolation of a new retrovirus”) is based on 1) the use of a non specific RT molecular marker, and 2) is falsely supported by EM pictures of, most probably, endogenous human retroviruses.

More details and appropriate references on this analysis can be found in my 2010 paper published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons [— “Human Endogenous Retroviruses and AIDS Research: Confusion, Consensus, or Science?”] (jpands.org/vol15no3/deharven.pdf).

CELIA FARBER: When antibody and VL [viral load] tests became widespread as diagnostic tools for “HIV infection” over the ensuing decades, what happened with EM inside of HIV science and literature? It is my understanding that nobody has ever found HIV in human blood, on EM. Is this an accurate way to say it?

DE HARVEN: In my views, Western Blot [antibody] tests lost all credibility after the publication of Eleni Papadopulos’s et al. (1993) paper, and antibody tests (“Elisa”) [lost credibility] after Christine Johnson’s report (1996). The notion of a “Viral load” (VL), however, brought a new parameter in AIDS diagnosis (Ho,1996). It called attention to the actual number of HIV particles supposedly present in the blood plasma of AIDS patients, PCR technologies [tests] being presumed to offer a way to quantify that number.

If such a viremia (i.e. presence of virus particles in the blood) is indeed present in AIDS patients, it reminisces the retroviral viremia well known in leukemic mice. In such case, retroviral particles should be readily demonstrable, by TEM, of appropriately prepared patient plasma samples. Unfortunately, it has never been possible to demonstrate by TEM one single retroviral particle in the blood plasma of any AIDS patient, even if one selects patients presenting with a so-called “high viral load.”

I was apparently the first researcher to make that statement, during the opening session of President T. Mbeki’s major AIDS conference, in Pretoria, SA, in May 2000. My statement to that effect has never been refuted.

CELIA FARBER: How come?

DE HARVEN: That question must be answered because “something” is measured by PCR technologies in the blood of many AIDS patients. Actually, what is being measured is definitely not the number of retroviral particles (phantom-like, i.e. EM invisible!). In fact, what is being PCR identified, amplified, and supposedly quantified is the number of genomic nucleotide sequences that are extremely similar to sequences known to be part of the retroviral genome. Most regrettably, these sequences were misinterpreted as an indication as a certain number of … HIV particles! This did a lot to consolidate the quasi-religious dogma of HIV as the cause of AIDS, a dogma that has been sharply criticized, a few years ago, by David Rasnick who wrote, authoritatively, about “The AIDS Blunder”…

This interpretation would have been acceptable only if retroviral particles would have been readily demonstrated, by EM, in the blood plasma of these patients; but, since this is not the case, another explanation for the presence of these nucleotide sequences has to be founded.

I presented at the RA conference in Oakland, CA, in 2009, and further developed in my 2010 JAPS paper such a much needed explanation for the presence of these retroviral-like nucleotide sequences. My explanation is based on the well known, variable amounts of circulating DNA in the blood of severely ill patients, and on the fact that we all carry [irrelevant] retroviral-like sequences in our DNA, as endogenous, defective retroviruses, i.e. HERVs (HERVs, for “Human endogenous retroviruses”) (See “Virus in all of us”, R. Lower at al., 1996 PNAS paper).

No surprise, therefore, that these nucleotide sequences are recognized by PCR [tests] in the blood of many AIDS patients, who are indeed severely ill. As already demonstrated in 2008 in Robin Weiss laboratory, HERVs can interfere as confounding factors in the search for novel retrovirus in chronic human diseases…

CELIA FARBER: …Paint a picture for us. The story of the [HIV] virus, the “new deadly virus,” what happens first: What steps did they [—] Montagnier, on one hand, Gallo on the other [—] take to “find” the new entity? Then once they ‘found’ it, what shape was it in? It was not an entity, a thing, with a body, right? It was not coherent. Can we say that? So it lived where? It was seen only through the technologies developed to find it, Elisa, WB [both are antibody tests]? Later PCR/VL [tests]? But what happened back THEN when they tried to see it on EM? Why didn’t everybody look for it on EM? Too expensive?

DE HARVEN: No, EM is not cheap but not that expensive! And its cost has certainly nothing to do with the fact that it has barely been used for the past 30 years in AIDS research! It has not been used because “They” knew it was not going to show anything of retroviral significance in samples coming directly from AIDS patients. And since AIDS had become big business, the stocks of involved giant pharmaceutical companies could not be jeopardized! It had to be saved at all cost, even at the cost of trusting non specific molecular markers… Fear is good business, and viruses generate fear most efficiently… So, the HIV flag has to be maximally agitated. In worldwide medias, with thousands of computer-generated, colorful caricatures of an idealistic retrovirus… By contrast, the medias have been dominated by the most rigorous censorship when it comes to inform the public about views of rethinking dissidents. This total censorship put a safety lock on any information that could jeopardize the colossal, entirely HIV derived profits of the major pharmaceutical companies.

But I am glad we have Internet!

Daring to say that HIV does not exist amounts to some sort of a capitalistic crime…

Yes, the HIV dogma is probably the darkest page in the history of modern medicine.

CELIA FARBER: Etienne, if you could sum up: Does HIV exist? If so, where and how and as what?

If you could examine 1,000 HIV positive people’s blood under EM, what would you expect to find? If you don’t find HIV on EM in human blood, can any argument be made that the virus is “hiding” and so forth, or that the drugs suppressed the virus to undetectable levels? This is what the defenders of the orthodoxy seem to be saying about the results seen in the Nushawn Williams case.

DE HARVEN: This is the main question! Questioning the very existence of HIV is not something that should be debated only between specialized retro-virologists. It is an essential question that concerns all of us.

CELIA FARBER: Why?

DE HARVEN: Simply because 100% of AIDS research funding is based on the dogmatically postulated existence of HIV. If HIV does not exist, it would follow that AIDS research is the most appalling case of total misappropriation of public research funds! And it would also follow that the monumental amounts of money, so far exclusively devoted to HIV research, would be much better used in other directions. Could you imagine what world we would live in, today, if the total amount of money wasted over the past 30 years on HIV research had been, instead, used for feeding starving Africans, for clean water supply equipment, for public hygiene infrastructures, and for public health education? This would happen only if HIV research is totally stopped! And for this, the scientific and public health organizations have to face the fact that, indeed, HIV does not exist!

…we all have to, courageously, face the fact that the very existence of an exogenous HIV has never been scientifically verified.

—end of interview excerpt—

Again, you can read the whole interview here: https://www.thetruthbarrier.com/2013/06/20/can-electron-microscopy-resolve-the-hiv-battle-an-exclusive-interview-with-em-pioneer-dr-etienne-de-harven/

De Harven unmasks HIV research. How many other unproven viruses have likewise been prematurely massaged into existence and prominence? How many times have researchers pulled “special markers” like rabbits out of hats—spuriously claiming these markers establish the existence of otherwise never-observed viruses?

And therefore, when these researchers state they have published the genetic sequences of these viruses—what are they really sequencing? Harmless and passive endogenous viruses that wouldn’t hurt a fly and prefer to lie around in the body for the whole course of a lifetime watching television?

And when someone steps forward, and claims a new and never-before-seen virus is actually a manmade weapon, and he knows this from studying its genetic sequence—is he right, or is he looking at the sequence of an irrelevant microbe that has been rudely coaxed from its long languishing snooze in the warmth of the human body?"

[Philippe]

How are viruses discovered and identified in the first place?
Feb 18 2020
by Jon Rappoport

And when someone steps forward, and claims a new and never-before-seen virus is actually a manmade weapon, and he knows this from studying its genetic sequence—is he right, or is he looking at the sequence of an irrelevant microbe that has been rudely coaxed from its long languishing snooze in the warmth of the human body?"

Sorry Rappoport, am not going to reread all your observations and biological science. Would you then please give your explanation of what makes persons fall death in the streets of Wuhan or healthy young doctors die from caring for others ? If you think there is a mental aspect to become deadly ill, go ahead it's interesting and I learned something about it. Meanwhile let the people on earth continue to learn about secret labs that fuel a million dollar industry on a planet gone mad.

[happyuk]

The plot gets thicker--

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"This is beyond eerie. A 1981 thriller by Dean Koontz predicted the #Coronavirus nightmare, pinpointing it to supposedly biological weapons labs in China’s Wuhan"
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This is an absolutely stunning find, frankstien. I'm truly "gobsmacked" by this. Thanks so much for posting this. The odds of this being simply clever writing by Koontz are about a google to one.

It's almost like it's being used as a script for what's happening right now.

Dean Koontz is an interesting guy. I particularly like his introductory Wikipedia entry:


In the 1960s, Koontz worked for the Appalachian Poverty Program, a federally funded initiative designed to help poor children. In a 1996 interview with Reason Magazine, he said that while the program sounded "very noble and wonderful, . . . [i]n reality, it was a dumping ground for violent children.. . and most of the funding ended up 'disappearing somewhere.'" This experience greatly shaped Koontz's political outlook. In his book, The Dean Koontz Companion, he recalled that he:


realized that most of these programs are not meant to help anyone, merely to control people and make them dependent. I was forced to reconsider everything I'd once believed. I developed a profound distrust of government regardless of the philosophy of the people in power. I remained a liberal on civil-rights issues, became a conservative on defense, and a semi-libertarian on all other matters.


The 1970s "Survivors" program, which used to give me nightmares as a kid, is also uncannily prescient:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH6us7DLaRk

[Delight]

"This is not about "fears" but a legitimate concern"

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The cruise ship quarantine was inadequate. The MD making the video was complaining and was suppressed.

comment for video below....

Ken Hayashida

I am a board-certified pediatrician in California. Thank you for sharing your medical information. Physicians and nurses need more clinical information similar to that which you are sharing. I hope that you continue to update and share your medical opinion. The lack of infectious disease experience in charge of COVID-19 response in many nations (including United States, Japan, and other nations) is unfortunately adding more difficulty to the clinical management.

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Head MD of a hospital dies

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The situation just gets worse in China

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[ExomatrixTV]

The SECRET MEETINGS Of The WHO With Big Tech To Control Coronavirus Info:
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[frankstien]

I think we should keep this in mind regarding the coronavirus--

The elite decided after the Baby Boomer generation population increase (which ended in 1955) that over-population was the major threat facing mankind. This is a very sobering topic and when you hear the actual quotes from the book and documents William Cooper reads, it becomes very clear why things are they way they are: poisonous vaccines, terrorism, war, death squads, GMO food, the list goes on.

Even though this is a radio show recorded in 1993, it is as timely as the night it was first broadcast.

Population Control = AIDS (Jan. 25th, 1993)
http://hourofthetime.com/bcmp3/16.mp3

If you cue to 47 mins, Bill mentions what's written on page 17-18 of the book, The Population Bomb. He reads the full quote, but listed below is the last line:

"The problem could have been avoided by population control, in which mankind consciously adjusted the birth have rate so that a "death rate solution" did not have to occur."

These are the download links to the book and documents mentioned in Bill Cooper's report.

The Population Bomb by Dr. Paul R. Ehrlich
http://www.projectavalon.net/The_Population_Bomb_Paul_Ehrlich.pdf

The Global 2000 Report To The President
https://www.cartercenter.org/resources/pdfs/pdf-archive/global2000reporttothepresident--enteringthe21stcentury-01011991.pdf

Club of Rome Report - The Limits of Growth
http://donellameadows.org/wp-content/userfiles/Limits-to-Growth-digital-scan-version.pdf

[James Newell]

I posted this on the vaccine thread but I think it should be watched here also. Here is a great interview done by Dr Sherri Tenpenny with Alex Jones. She is one of best fighters re vaccines we have. I see with little question that the release of this Coronavirus is a power grab on a world wide scale for enforced vaccinations. She also talks about her upcoming course in a few weeks. I may sign up for it myself just for the data. It is too easy to see they are going to use this to take peoples rights away.

The more I look the more it does seem they want this pandemic for NWO purposes. Yes it is a highly contagious disease. I have no doubt many will survive this, especially the savvy healthy people. Will we survive their solutions for it? Well that will be another battle. Don't give up your Rights for a vaccine promise.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e4c4841af22a6002b86daff

5e4c4841af22a6002b86daff

[Delight]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact.


A few predictions and speculations from myself . . . . .

Bill, I‘m convinced now of what I‘ve been suspecting for quite a while: I’m on a totally different timeline than you, meanwhile, though still close enough to talk to you via the net :) Just saying . . .

I grok what you are stating here I think. These events are not appearing locally for you? You are feeling quite satisfied with everything and not able to put it into your own personal reality tunnel?

This split between what I am experiencing and what I am seeing is very hard to "take". I looked at reddit, I looked at twitter (#coronavirus). The twitter feed just about made me ill. i saw a woamn fall to her death form a balcony. I saw starving animals.

And this is just one angle of the suffering that is happening with climate change, systemic poisoning, all the unbelievable but experienced horrors that have seemed to become unstoppable.

I have a coworker (C) whose 15 year old son is moderately autistic. He is able to go to school but is pretty nonverbal and has obvious deficits. He SUDDENLY started having syncope and spiking fevers last week (and I BELIEVE it was shortly after a flu vaccine because of an overheard conversation). I overheard the C in an intense conversation with another woman (A) who was saying her friend's child had a bad reaction to vaccines. I walked by in the middle of it but C was saying... "Andrew Wakefield was found to be a fraud. Vaccines did not cause my son's autism. Vaccines are not the problem with his health."

In MY reality tunnel, vaccines cause injury but only when people use them. People I know who don't agree to use them are not harmed. In MY reality, I am able to "mentally" with the help of my chosen placebos (like oregano oil, vitamin D etc.) withstand illness. I may strain my body but my imagination corrects the issues as I actually use directed meditation.

In my reality there is the media bringing these horrors but people around me are not involved. I have spent hours and hours praying that each being is surrounded by health, protection and support.

I am feeling that the worlds are splitting. I read a metaphor that stated ... the boat is slowly leaving the dock. One foot on the boat and another on the pier. One will have to choose. I am not sure this is true but at all times, I choose the Divine. I choose the side of love. If that is enough or not to do anything about what others apparently are suffering?

It is very confusing to see and feel for others but also feel I have no input (at this time).

[James Newell]

This is a Very powerful video of a Chinese women. She is literally risking her life to say this! This virus is probably done to cover up what is really going on in Commie China. A revolution is happening! It should probably be copied and forwarded all over because youtube tends to take things like this down. It don't forward the great socialist agenda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaL4-B5s6Q

[ExomatrixTV]

The US military has set up 15 coronavirus quarantine camps (https://www.businessinsider.nl/us-military-bases-coronavirus-quarantine-locations-2020-2) on its bases, and 600 citizens are still isolated there.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42527&d=1582084833 (https://www.businessinsider.nl/us-military-bases-coronavirus-quarantine-locations-2020-2/)


Source (https://www.businessinsider.nl/us-military-bases-coronavirus-quarantine-locations-2020-2/http://)

[Iloveyou]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact.


A few predictions and speculations from myself . . . . .

Bill, I‘m convinced now of what I‘ve been suspecting for quite a while: I’m on a totally different timeline than you, meanwhile, though still close enough to talk to you via the net :) Just saying . . .

I grok what you are stating here I think. These events are not appearing locally for you? You are feeling quite satisfied with everything and not able to put it into your own personal reality tunnel?


This is pure allegation, insinuation, it is not what I stated (or intended to state).

But of course, you are right. Absolutely right.

[ExomatrixTV]

5G and Corona Virus Links Getting Clearer...Not Good, Not Good For All:
LVsWtso2Tik
⚠️ Consider this: They can now kill anyone on the planet and blame it on a "virus" and get away with it.

There are 100s of ways to kill some one, one of them is boosting the power outage of 3D MIMO 8x8 Phased Array Beamforming Military Grade #5G (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100537-Stop-5G-before-it-s-irreversible-) Tech is not made public WHO is controlling it ... Maybe A.I. "helping" (managing) to give you "better connection" anywhere anyplace.

If you are targeted by 5G Tech and you have a Common Flu Virus can do the trick. It will take maybe years before honest authorities figure this abuse out and do something about it.

John Kuhles,
Founder #Stop5G (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/stop5g) Fb Group 🦜🦋🌳
Stop5G.net (http://Stop5G.net) & Twitter.com/Stop5G (http://Twitter.com/Stop5G)

[AutumnW]

Hard to figure out how and where this virus got started but it looks like bad things start to just "naturally occur" to regions that the U.S has a beef with.

[Bill Ryan]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact.


A few predictions and speculations from myself . . . . .

Bill, I‘m convinced now of what I‘ve been suspecting for quite a while: I’m on a totally different timeline than you, meanwhile, though still close enough to talk to you via the net :) Just saying . . .

I grok what you are stating here I think. These events are not appearing locally for you? You are feeling quite satisfied with everything and not able to put it into your own personal reality tunnel?


This is pure allegation, insinuation, it is not what I stated (or intended to state).

But of course, you are right. Absolutely right.I'll try and interpret. (If I can!) If I have it all wrong, please do forgive me. :flower:

Iloveyou (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?24825-Iloveyou), who I've met personally and is a beautiful person who always means well, wanting and intending the best for everyone else around her, holds it as a core tenet that (at least) we can each play a major part in the reality we choose to experience.

So in the deep dive on this thread to consider all the things that might possibly play out, Iloveyou (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?24825-Iloveyou) is concerned that we might in some way be bringing all this on ourselves. She's determined NOT to bring this on HERSELF (or anyone around her) — hence the notion of divergent timelines.

That's why I replied (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336702&viewfull=1#post1336702) with the (maybe rather poor!) analogy of the weather forecast. When I check the weather before I go hiking in the high mountains, I'm NOT summoning the bad weather on me: I'm merely collecting information to help me best decide whether to take my rain pants or not. :)

[Pam]

This is a Very powerful video of a Chinese women. She is literally risking her life to say this! This virus is probably done to cover up what is really going on in Commie China. A revolution is happening! It should probably be copied and forwarded all over because youtube tends to take things like this down. It don't forward the great socialist agenda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaL4-B5s6Q

I have watched a couple of these videos and it just breaks my heart. All of the pent up frustrations from years of being forced to tow the party line and to appear happy to do it. Then there is the future for this woman. In the very best of circumstances, she lives and has her social credit score trashed to the point of being a pariah for the rest of her life. At the other end of the spectrum, she simply vanishes. I admire her courage.

The bigger picture here is we are all heading in that direction. The time is coming when speaking out like this will most definitely bring down harsh repercussions. It is going to happen sooner than we think, like a thief in night.

[Sarah Rainsong]

This is the video from N. Korea that Chris Martenson references in his latest update. As one comment so eloquently puts it:


2020 has really turned the world on it's head. The most honest news about the virus [is] coming out of North Korea!

I wonder how long this will stay up before it's pulled.

PfpmaAWtqds

[Karen (Geophyz)]

Could this be related to the Coronavirus?

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.

http://https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related)

[TEOTWAIKI]

Associated Press (http://www.looptt.com/content/who-working-google-combat-virus-misinformation), Feb. 3, 2020
It’s not just Google. It’s also Ten Cent. It’s also Facebook. It’s also Twitter.

And no, you’re not misreading the clear narrative intent of these articles.

Where possible, China wants to criminalize any speech … any social media … that does not follow the official party line. Where it’s not possible to criminalize that speech, China wants to ban it through the cooperative censorship of global tech and media platforms. Where it’s not possible to ban that speech, China wants to shame it into the shadows by getting us to reject it as “fake news”. This post eloquently sums up my frustration and anger over the warfare on information being waged against the world.

As the information flow dramatically diminishes after Tedro's call to arms, how is it even possible that WHO can have such an overarching power of censorship over Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and all the world's media? It's nothing short of totally astounding to see the scope of this! It's as if the entire world is kowtowing to China's attempt to suppress the information.

What trump card is China holding that they have been given license to infect the entire world with this virus?
Can anyone answer this question??????

[Bill Ryan]

From https://theepochtimes.com/exclusive-chinese-regime-deploys-1600-internet-trolls-to-suppress-information-on-coronavirus_3242454.html

Exclusive: Chinese Regime Deploys 1,600 Online Trolls to Suppress Information on Coronavirus
February 18, 2020

The propaganda department in virus-stricken Hubei Province has engaged over 1,600 censors to scrub the internet of “sensitive” information relating to the coronavirus outbreak, according to an internal document obtained by The Epoch Times.

The internal report, dated Feb. 15, detailed the agency’s efforts to ramp up censorship (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-censorship) measures. It was drafted after a speech given by Chinese leader Xi Jinping via video link on Feb. 10 to “frontline responders” of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei, where the virus first broke out.

The revelations come as the Chinese regime tightens information controls over the worsening outbreak, as netizens have increasingly turned to the internet to vent their frustrations about the authorities’ response, or document what is happening on the ground.

The illness has seen a steadily growing official list of infections and deaths on a daily basis. Experts and commentators, however, believe the actual number of infections to be far greater, due to underreporting and shortages in testing kits and hospital beds—meaning many people are left undiagnosed.

According to the document, the department has hired more than 1,600 trolls, known as the 50-cent army in China, to regulate internet speech continuously, 24/7.

The trolls, through technological and manual screening, had identified as many as 606,800 posts online with “sensitive or harmful information,” it said.

Their approach, it said, was to “timely dispel the online rumors” and “strike powerful blows offline.”

As of Feb. 14, the online censors had deleted as many as 54,000 such “rumors,” and had social media influencers write nearly 400 commentary articles to shape the narrative.

The regime’s propaganda efforts, the report said, should be directed toward promoting the effects of officials’ outbreak control measures and the “moving deeds” of volunteers, community workers, and the police.

Some professional “internet commentators” had also made 400,000 comments to “counter the negative public opinions,” according to the document.

Posts mourning whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang, who died of the virus he was warning about in December, quickly disappeared from the internet in the hours after the news of his passing was first announced. “I want free speech,” a phrase that became trending on Chinese social media following his death, was also swiftly erased.

https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/02/19/li-wenliang-vigil--600x400.jpg (https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/02/19/li-wenliang-vigil--1200x800.jpg) People attend a vigil to mourn for doctor Li Wenliang in Hong Kong, China, on Feb. 7, 2020. Wuhan citizen journalists Fang Bin and Chen Qiushi also recently disappeared after posting regular videos online highlighting the severity of the outbreak.

As of Feb. 11, over 2,500 people had signed a joint online petition expressing anger over Li’s death and criticizing the government for suppressing free speech during the outbreak. Several co-signees were subsequently summoned by local police. At least one was detained.

The department has also set up 11 work groups for the purpose of “wartime propaganda” work. The groups were communicating daily with propaganda officials from the central government to “coordinate public opinion” in real time on issues “online and offline,” “inside the country and overseas,” it stated.

Ousting Local Reporters

According to the leaked report, at least 60 reporters from 33 overseas news agencies came to Wuhan after the coronavirus outbreak began earlier this year. However, at least 47 of them agreed to leave, through the department’s “communication and persuasion.”

As of the evening of Feb. 14, only five non-mainland outlets had reporters in Hubei.
To “lead overseas media to objectively report on the outbreak information,” the department has set up an international language section and have published 200 pieces on the outbreak from official channels in seven languages, the document said.

On Jan. 14, a group of reporters from at least four Hong Kong media were taken to a police station located within a hospital in Wuhan after trying to interview patients, according to local media.

The police searched their belongings and asked them to delete the videos taken around the hospital. They were only released after 1.5 hours of interrogation.

Censorship Overdrive

The Chinese regime has made the suppression of information about the virus a priority.
At a Feb. 3 meeting, the Chinese Communist Party’s Politburo Standing Committee, the top decision-making body, called for authorities to “strengthen internet and media control.”

This has filtered down to local authorities cracking down on people for “spreading rumors” on the internet about the outbreak.

Chinese state-run media have warned people not to “spread fake information” about the coronavirus, lest they be in violation of China’s Criminal Law.

A provision of that law states that anyone found fabricating and spreading false information on an epidemic, disaster, or police activity, can be sentenced to three to seven years in prison.

Washington-based nonprofit Chinese Human Rights Defenders documented 254 cases of arrests between Jan. 22 and Jan. 28, in which Chinese citizens were punished for “spreading rumors” relating to the virus. The forms of penalty included fines, verbal warnings, and forced confessions.

In a list of 167 cases (https://www.theepochtimes.com/social-media-users-punished-as-china-tightens-censorship-of-coronavirus-outbreak_3237559.html) of people punished for rumor-mongering published by U.S.-based website China Digital Times, the majority of the “offenses” were posts about confirmed or suspected cases in their city or neighborhood. Some included the number of deaths.

For instance, a man in Baoding City, Hebei Province, wrote on his blog: “I truly believe the authorities have not revealed the true number of infected patients. I heard that in a village about 20 kilometers [12 miles] from ours, the number of confirmed cases was six on Jan. 26. All were sent to the hospital for quarantine. But I have not seen any official reports that included these six cases.”

He received five days of administrative detention for this posting. Administrative detention refers to the arrest and detention of an individual without trial.

[Bill Ryan]

From Michael Snyder at http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/10-very-important-questions-that-the-mainstream-media-should-be-asking-about-this-coronavirus-outbreak

10 Very Important Questions That The Mainstream Media Should Be Asking About This Coronavirus Outbreak
18 Feb, 2020

Why is the mainstream media so scared of asking difficult questions about this coronavirus outbreak?

At one time the United States had the greatest investigative journalists in the entire world, but today it is very rare to see any of our major news outlets go much beyond the basic facts of a story. In particular, the coverage of this coronavirus outbreak has been absolutely abysmal. Other than dutifully repeating the basic information being fed to them by the CDC and the Chinese government, mainstream media coverage of this crisis has amounted to little more than assuring everyone that everything is going to be just fine.

As a result, Americans are increasingly turning to independent journalists for some honest coverage of this outbreak, because they know that they aren’t getting the whole truth from the usual suspects. There is still so much we don’t know about this virus, and very few of our “journalists” are willing to dig deeper to find the answers we need.

The public is hungry for information, and getting to the truth starts with asking the right questions. The following are 10 very important questions that the mainstream media should be asking about this very alarming coronavirus outbreak.

#1 The Washington State Department of Health has announced that 746 people (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus) are currently being “monitored” for coronavirus symptoms. Are all 746 being quarantined, or are they being allowed to mix with the general public? According to the agency’s official website (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus), it is unclear what “monitoring their health” actually entails…
The number of people under public health supervision includes those at risk of having been exposed to novel coronavirus who are monitoring their health under the supervision of public health officials. This number includes close contacts of laboratory confirmed cases, as well as people who have returned from China in the past 14 days and are included in federal quarantine guidance.
#2 In Hawaii, a local resident named John Fukiwara recently had very close contact with a Japanese man that later was confirmed to be infected by the coronavirus. After contacting health officials, why was Fukiwara told to “go about his normal day-to-day routine”? (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-18-state-of-hawaii-told-potentially-coronavirus-infected-man-keep-interacting.html)…
That said, the Times reporter did manage to find John Fukiwara, a local resident who said he believes the Japanese man is a friend of his whom he would not identify by name. The man recently visited the island and had coffee with Fukiwara before they exchanged gifts of chocolate.
Fukiwara then contacted a local newspaper and then reached out to state health officials, with whom he offered to self-quarantine. But amazingly, state health officials told him to simply go about his normal day-to-day routine and to be sure to report any symptoms.
#3 If this coronavirus outbreak “isn’t that serious”, then why has everyone in Hubei province now been ordered to stay at home (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3050878/coronavirus-chinas-hubei-province-orders-everybody-stay-home) until further notice?
The central Chinese province of Hubei escalated its restrictions to contain a coronavirus epidemic on the weekend, ordering the province’s residents – including 24 million people in rural areas – to stay home until further notice.
#4 If this coronavirus outbreak “isn’t that serious”, then why did Russia just ban all Chinese citizens from entering the country? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/deaths-top-2000-thousands-of-patients-discharged-virus-update/ar-BB108yhK)…
Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin signed an order temporarily banning Chinese citizens from entering Russia for tourism, personal reasons or work starting Thursday, Interfax reported, citing Deputy PM Tatyana Golikova’s office.
#5 Chinese officials have just released data which show that this virus “could be 20 times more lethal than the flu” (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/18/wuhan-china-coronavirus-hospital-director-dies-covid/4792597002/). Why does hardly anyone in the western world know about this?…
The director of a Chinese hospital at the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak became one of its victims Tuesday despite “all-out” efforts to save his life, Chinese health officials said.
The death came the same day Chinese officials released data indicating the new virus could be 20 times more lethal than the flu.
#6 Why is this virus killing 15 percent (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8015951/Most-coronavirus-infections-mild-says-Chinese-study.html) of all victims that are over the age of 80?…
The deadly coronavirus rapidly sweeping the world kills up to 15 per cent of patients over the age of 80, scientists have revealed.
Chinese health officials carried out the biggest ever study on the never-before-seen strain of the virus, using data from 72,000 cases.
#7 On the flip side, why are so few children (https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-case-children-infants-low-disease-expert-explain-why-2020-2) being infected by this virus?…
Scientists are still learning about the coronavirus outbreak that has killed 1,384 people and infected more than 64,000 in China. One of the biggest mysteries is why so few children have gotten sick.
The outbreak was first reported on December 31, but no children younger than 15 years old had been diagnosed as of January 22. A study in the New England Journal of Medicine said at the time that “children might be less likely to become infected or, if infected, may show milder symptoms” than adults.
#8 What is this coronavirus outbreak going to mean for the entire global economy? This is something that I have written about repeatedly (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/shocking-new-study-says-the-coronavirus-could-impact-more-than-5-million-businesses-worldwide) in recent days, but the mainstream media in the western world continues to insist that this crisis will just be a small bump in the road. Meanwhile, over in India there are warnings that there could be “massive disruptions” and “shortages” if this crisis doesn’t end soon (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/dominos-are-falling-china-shutdown-disrupts-indias-economy)…
Pankaj R. Patel, chairman of Zydus Cadila, said prices of medicine in India have exponentially jumped in the last several weeks, thanks to much of the medicine is sourced from China.
The Indian pharmaceutical industry is experiencing massive disruptions that could face shortages starting in April if supplies aren’t replenished in the next couple weeks, Patel warned.
#9 Why did the coronavirus continue to spread like wildfire aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship even after a quarantine was initiated? (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/02/17/coronavirus-official-explains-diamond-princess-cruise-quarantine-fail/4785290002/)…
A top health official at the National Institutes of Health acknowledged that the quarantine aboard the coronavirus-infected Diamond Princess Cruises ship failed while discussing the decision to evacuate hundreds of American passengers – 14 of whom tested positive for the virus.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, said the original idea to keep people safely quarantined on the ship wasn’t unreasonable. But even with the quarantine process on the ship, virus transmission still occurred.
#10 The number of confirmed cases outside of China has doubled in less than a week (https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6). If the number of cases continues to double every week, how bad will this crisis eventually become?


I’ll answer that one.

If the number of confirmed cases outside of China doubles every week, there will be a million cases just 10 weeks from now.

And once there are a million people with coronavirus walking around all over the planet, nobody is going to be able to “contain” it.

So let us hope that the measures that authorities are currently taking to control the spread of this disease will work.

President Trump believes that this outbreak will start to fizzle when warmer weather arrives, and I truly hope that he is correct.

Because right now this outbreak is getting worse with each passing day, and we definitely aren’t getting good information about this crisis from the mainstream media.

[Floating]

Good day, Folks.

I used to work in a "cancer research lab" years and years ago. Basically, Immunology and a bit of virology rolled into one. My cohorts and I would pour over the newest scientific journals and ponder the future. We had super containment labs back in the 70's. One was being built right in the middle of a middle sized city. Why? We wondered even then, if... IF....something got out, the middle sized city would be toast so quickly. The decision was more of convenience for the researchers, supplies, etc. Nothing will ever leave the containment labs. Hahaha - we said to ourselves. We knew even then...70's....that IF something wanted to get out, it would.

Now to this Corona Virus.... I am perplexed by .... "only believe in trusted sources".... who are they?

No matter the sources, I don't trust any of them. How do you know those folks dying in the streets are dying or fainting are fainting because they are hungry and not because of the virus. You don't know. Almost all the info we are receiving is guided to instill fear. IMHO
IF the Chinese Gov wanted to kill their masses, they have used other means in the past that had nothing to do with Viruses. They just killed their population.

If they want to kill off their aged population or the sick, they would do so.

They have a population crises anyway....reports of wanting to increase the population rather than decrease their population. The one child focused has not worked out for them. So killing off their child bearing population makes little sense.
IF the Chinese Gov wanted to make their people cashless....they would just make them not use cash and force paperless transactions.
If the Chinese Gov wants to make their people do anything, they would. So...what gives?

Whatever the real reason for this outbreak I think there is a bigger story going on. A bigger economic story. This virus has completely ruined their economy. It has hit the "Globalism" agenda at its heart. We will want to re-start our own pharmaceutical factories again so that we don't rely on Global system. We will become local again. Isn't that what Catherine Austin Fitts says....go local, buy local, stay local?

This is a global stick in the Eye of the Chinese Gov. For their expansion drive into Africa, South America, etc.? For their technology stealing ways?

Something bigger is going on. Just a gut feeling. Bigger......

[Innocent Warrior]

The regime’s propaganda efforts, the report said, should be directed toward promoting the effects of officials’ outbreak control measures and the “moving deeds” of volunteers, community workers, and the police.

That explains a lot. #wuhan and #coronavirus on Twitter are very different today, and really strange. Less horror tweets and more tweets as outlined in the quote above. Dancing police, English speaking neighbours in Wuhan saying **** you to each other (strange, previous clips were all positive and these were the first speaking English), and comedic clips of scenes, clearly Chinese comedic style (western style memes early on but been serious since).

This I find really odd, but interesting. There have been loads of tweets of the excerpt from the Dean Koontz book (posted on this thread) but also there were loads of tweets of an excerpt from another book and now I can’t find any of them (if there are any then there are very few, unlike previously). They have been scrubbed and replaced with misleading tweets.

The excerpt that is missing is from Sylvia Browne’s book, “End of days: predictions and prophecies about the end of the world (https://www.amazon.com/End-Days-Predictions-Prophecies-About/dp/0451226895)”.

The quote is as follows -

“In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely.”

The scrubbed tweets were images of the excerpt and most included an image of the cover of Browne’s book, the tweets were all clear on what book the excerpt was from. Now all I can find are tweets that show images of the excerpt from each book, together in one tweet, giving the impression that both quotes are from Koontz’s book, which is of course a fictional book. See the tweets below to see what I mean.

https://twitter.com/AsadAliCh300/status/1229762040140619776

https://twitter.com/BooHoderin/status/1229860132202434565

https://twitter.com/vaultteam6/status/1229802492738916352

[Delight]

I thought the Gem show in AZ might be important in that SO MANY people were congregating and touching things that will then be passed on. It is really really valuable IMO to be washing our hands and becoming aware of what we touch NOW.

More than 4,500 vendors from around the world fly in the week before, set up shop, and leave the week after (https://np.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f6cvrk/the_big_next_disease_outbreak_watch_southern_az/)

[onevoice]

There is an article at WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-has-u-s-cities-stretching-to-monitor-self-quarantined-americans-11582108203) below which reports on how the various US cities are struggling to keep track of the thousands of people who need to be tracked.

As of February 14, 5,400 people had been asked to self-quarantine in California alone. I didn't realize the magnitude of the people that may be already either voluntarily or forced quarantine.

Coronavirus Has U.S. Cities Stretching to Monitor Self-Quarantined Americans
Local efforts to prevent potential spread of Covid-19 have been like ‘one big, long bad day’

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Ted Toet, an emergency-management program coordinator, helps the public-health office in King County, Wash., respond to the coronavirus.
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By Brianna Abbott
Feb. 19, 2020 5:30 am ET

Public-health officials in the U.S. are striving to keep tabs on thousands of Americans who have quarantined themselves at home after returning from mainland China to curtail the new coronavirus (https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-touts-fall-in-new-coronavirus-infections-deaths-11582028489?mod=article_inline&mod=article_inline), adding to an epidemic response that is straining already-stretched local departments.

More than 5,400 people had been asked to self-quarantine in California alone as of Feb. 14, according to the California Department of Public Health. Hundreds more are self-quarantining in Georgia, Washington state, Illinois, New York and other states.

Public-health officials are following directions from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the State Department to supervise these people, but many steps are being developed on the fly. States are using a variety of techniques to track people from calling in volunteers to make phone calls, to sending text messages and using electronic registries.

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Scientists racing to find a vaccine for the Wuhan coronavirus are hoping a cutting-edge approach called “rapid response platforms” will quickly yield a breakthrough. WSJ’s Jason Bellini explains what these are and how they work. Photo: NIAID

These people are separate from the Americans who are under stricter federal quarantine, including those housed at four U.S. air bases and the 328 who were recently evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship (https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-cruise-quarantine-draws-criticism-after-more-passengers-infected-11582039428?mod=hp_lead_pos5&mod=article_inline). Those groups arrived from locations where the virus was rapidly spreading, whereas the people self-monitoring at home are thought to be at lower risk of having been exposed to it.

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So far, there have been 15 confirmed Covid-19 cases in the U.S., not including the potentially positive cases among those evacuated from the Diamond Princess. While health officials have investigated 467 people for the virus as of Monday, 392 tested negative, with 60 cases pending, according to the CDC. The immediate risk to the general public is still low, health officials say.

While public-health authorities are experienced with isolating, contact tracing and quarantining people to contain infectious diseases such as measles and tuberculosis, an attempt to monitor and quarantine people at this scale is a unique challenge. And quarantines typically apply only to those with a known exposure to a virus, rather than just travel history, public-health officials say.

“That’s a whole new scope of work,” Sara Cody, director of the public-health department in Santa Clara County, the home of Silicon Valley, which has had two confirmed cases of Covid-19. Both patients had returned from Wuhan, China, where the epidemic began (https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-we-know-about-the-wuhan-virus-11579716128?mod=article_inline&mod=article_inline&mod=article_inline&mod=article_inline).

A coalition of staffers, employees from other departments, health-care providers and federal officials engaged in a classic outbreak response to monitor people, such as family and health-care workers, who came in close contact with two local cases. And now, the department has added tracking recent arrivals from China to their to-do list. “We’re still in the middle of figuring out these operations,” Dr. Cody said.

Travel from mainland China to the U.S. has been sharply curtailed since many airlines suspended flights and the U.S. barred entry to most foreign nationals arriving from China. Still, some Americans continue to arrive into 11 airports designated by federal officials, and health authorities are on the lookout for passengers who are coming from other countries but were also recently in China.

Los Angeles County, for instance, is adding dozens of returning travelers to its monitoring list daily, said Barbara Ferrer, the director for the L.A. County Department of Public Health.

Those without symptoms who haven’t been to Hubei province, which includes Wuhan, are allowed to go on to their final destinations, but are asked to stay at home for up to 14 days, monitor their health, check in with their local health departments and contact their health-care providers if they develop symptoms, such as a fever or dry cough.

They are asked to avoid close contact with others, typically defined as being within 6 feet of another person for a prolonged period. Sometimes those who are self-quarantining are told they may go outside and exercise if no one is nearby, or grocery shop. The orders aren’t binding, but local health officials can issue stricter quarantine orders if necessary. So far, most people are cooperative, local health officials say.

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U.S. passengers evacuated from a cruise ship in Japan disembark from a flight in Texas.
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State and local health officials say they get information on people who are self-quarantining from federal officials who screen them at airports. But sometimes local officials receive incorrect or illegible phone numbers for some, or just missing data for others, and have to circle back to federal authorities for more information to track down the person.

Seattle and King County in Washington state, which have roughly 400 people self-monitoring at home, have recruited volunteers from the University of Washington School of Public Health and the department’s Public Health Reserve Corps, said Jeffrey Duchin, the health officer at Public Health—Seattle and King County. The county is spending roughly $200,000 a week on the response, which also requires redirecting staff from other tasks.

For people under strict quarantine or in isolation after developing symptoms, public-health workers sometimes need to provide more intense services, including shopping for food and medication. Seattle and King County offer a dietitian-reviewed menu and deliver bagels, turkey lunch meat, avocado salsa, fruit and hair conditioner, among other items, to a person under investigation waiting for test results.

“The amount of manpower, both resources and time, has been tremendous, and so what that means is that our existing staff are working two jobs around the clock for several weeks,” said Dr. Duchin. “It’s been like one big, long bad day.”

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A quarantine site in North Bend, Wash., for travelers who have been exposed to coronavirus in China.
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In Chicago, the health department is surveying people daily with an electronic registry, which is part of its monitoring practice for other infectious diseases, and is in contact with them more directly as needed. Other health departments phone or email initially, then sometimes follow up in a few days or a week.

On Monday, the Washington State Department of Health started using a text-messaging system developed by the CDC. The state will send a daily text to new arrivals and will refer anyone who reports fever or other symptoms to their local health departments. Washington says it is the first state to use the system. The CDC has made the tool available to any interested health departments and is using it to check in on some of its own staff on the ground responding to the epidemic in the U.S., said Anita Patel, the lead of pandemic medical care and countermeasures at the CDC.

Public-health authorities say they are also working to fight xenophobia and misinformation around the virus. The Chicago Department of Public Health held a press conference in Chinatown last week to announce that all of the close contacts of their two Covid-19 cases had passed the incubation period and had been cleared—and then the team had lunch with local business leaders in Chinatown.

The effort is straining state and local budgets. States and some larger local departments receive support from the CDC’s Public Health Emergency Preparedness funds, though the money is meant for preparing for an outbreak and doesn’t often cover full responses, they say.

“We’ve been keeping close track of those costs and expenditures with the assumption that there would be additional funding available in time,” said Allison Arwady, the commissioner at the Chicago Department of Public Health. “We’re paying our bills right now, but we absolutely need additional funding to be able to maintain the level of response this is going to require.”

Many health departments say they are in a good spot for now, as close contacts to the early confirmed cases are passing the incubation period without new infections popping up. But based on the continuing spread of the coronavirus, some health officials expect to be on high alert for the long-term, saying this type of aggressive response might not be sustainable. Strategies might also need to shift if the virus gets a foothold in the U.S.

“I just look around, and there are a lot of people here because they’re just committed to the mission, but they’re getting tired,” said Dr. Cody. “This is what they believe in, and that takes us a long way, but it won’t take us for months and months and months.”

Write to Brianna Abbott at brianna.abbott@wsj.com

[Innocent Warrior]

Just gonna leave these two tweets embedded here, apologies if already posted.

I can’t see the first one in the hashtags’ feeds anymore (checked back to the 14th, been near the top due to its popularity on previous days). See the thread for an english translation of the notice. There was also a video of an entire street of houses boarded up with people in them but I can’t find it and can’t remember the account.

There’s also far fewer tweets of the video in the second tweet showing up in the feeds now (this one doesn’t have a hashtag but I only found one earlier in the hashtag feed and as you can see it’s got a lot of attention). I wasn’t going to share it unless I could find a copy of the Chinese scientific report, but I’ve been unsuccessful so far.

So it appears the tweets are still there but aren’t showing up in the hashtags’ feeds and now the feeds are flooded with rubbish (some vulgar and some racist tweets included, hasn’t been a problem until now). So we should be sweet to just embed the tweets, since they’re not being scrubbed from the accounts and are just not showing up in the feeds (that’s where you go to see the latest news, will need to find and follow informative accounts now).

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[ExomatrixTV]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42531&d=1582143182

I did not know (book written in 1981) mentions the year 2020 connected to Wuhan Virus :faint2:


John

[Innocent Warrior]

I did not know the book written in 1981 mentions the year 2020 :faint2:

Nah, that’s Koontz in 1981. Browne’s book, which predicts the illness in 2020, was first published in 2008.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Even the flu is an epidemic that attacks every year, starting around the late 70's - it is a weaponized biological vector. But the propagandists contained that one and it is now an accepted part of normal life. An engineered virus gone amok.

Now with the modern tools of gene splicing and rapid sequencing technology a more virulent form of the same class of virus has again gone haywire.

Warfare no longer has the same face as it did in times past, nor as depicted in our romanticized interpretations from Hollywood. And remember, please, we have been at war for a very long time - they just want us to think otherwise.

We have been infiltrated by the enemy. They have first undermined our trust in government. They have sowed doubt and mistrust in our institutions. This was the occupation of our minds. From there they sowed division and pitted father against son. Next came the face to the enemy. Whether Russia, China, or Isis, no matter, just a face to hate. Next came the acquiring of true wealth through the free trade agreements. And finally, the infiltration of enemy assets into our territory by the millions. Next, if we allow it, will be the overthrow of government by political means, and the sidelining of long-term citizens by new 'arrivals'.

But so long as we believe the narrative, that a 'natural' virus has mutated to the point of epidemic, we will allow the eugenics agenda to continue.

[Sophocles]

Dr Shiva Ayyadurai: In addition to the freedom movement in Hong Kong there was a similar movement for health right in the city of Wuhan (at 3 min.).

Did CHINA unleash #BioMediaWarfare on its OWN PEOPLE to CRUSH the Health & Freedom Move:

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[TomKat]

#1 The Washington State Department of Health has announced that 746 people (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus) are currently being “monitored” for coronavirus symptoms. Are all 746 being quarantined, or are they being allowed to mix with the general public? According to the agency’s official website (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus), it is unclear what “monitoring their health” actually entails…
The number of people under public health supervision includes those at risk of having been exposed to novel coronavirus who are monitoring their health under the supervision of public health officials. This number includes close contacts of laboratory confirmed cases, as well as people who have returned from China in the past 14 days and are included in federal quarantine guidance.
#2 In Hawaii, a local resident named John Fukiwara recently had very close contact with a Japanese man that later was confirmed to be infected by the coronavirus. After contacting health officials, why was Fukiwara told to “go about his normal day-to-day routine”? (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-18-state-of-hawaii-told-potentially-coronavirus-infected-man-keep-interacting.html)…
That said, the Times reporter did manage to find John Fukiwara, a local resident who said he believes the Japanese man is a friend of his whom he would not identify by name. The man recently visited the island and had coffee with Fukiwara before they exchanged gifts of chocolate.
Fukiwara then contacted a local newspaper and then reached out to state health officials, with whom he offered to self-quarantine. But amazingly, state health officials told him to simply go about his normal day-to-day routine and to be sure to report any symptoms.
#3 If this coronavirus outbreak “isn’t that serious”, then why has everyone in Hubei province now been ordered to stay at home (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3050878/coronavirus-chinas-hubei-province-orders-everybody-stay-home) until further notice?
The central Chinese province of Hubei escalated its restrictions to contain a coronavirus epidemic on the weekend, ordering the province’s residents – including 24 million people in rural areas – to stay home until further notice.
#4 If this coronavirus outbreak “isn’t that serious”, then why did Russia just ban all Chinese citizens from entering the country? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/deaths-top-2000-thousands-of-patients-discharged-virus-update/ar-BB108yhK)…[INDENT]Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin signed an order temporarily banning Chinese citizens from entering Russia for tourism, personal reasons or work starting Thursday, Interfax reported, citing Deputy PM Tatyana Golikova’s office.

It appears that China and Russia do not want the virus to spread in their countries, but the US agencies DO want the virus to spread in the US.

[ExomatrixTV]

Iran state news (https://apnews.com/c4d12a3d3061f3557ac2b959bca5716d) agency says new virus has killed 2 citizens

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — The new virus has killed two elderly Iranian citizens, Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency reported Wednesday.

IRNA quoted Alireza Vahabzadeh, an adviser to the country’s health minister, as saying that both victims had been carrying the coronavirus and were located in Qom, about 140 kilometers (86 miles) south of the capital Tehran.

The state news agency said later that schools and universities in Qom would be closed so an investigation could take place. No additional details were released.
Earlier on Wednesday, Iranian authorities confirmed two cases of the new virus, the first in the country, according to the semi-official ISNA news agency. Officials later said the two patients had died.

ISNA quoted an official in the country’s health ministry, Kiyanoush Jahanpour, as saying that “since last two days, some suspected cases of the new coronavirus were found.”

The virus causes the illness that the World Health Organization recently named COVID-19, referring to its origin late last year and the coronavirus that causes it.
The new virus emerged in China in December. Since then, more than 75,000 people have been infected globally, with more than 2,000 deaths being reported, mostly in China.

The new virus comes from a large family of what are known as coronaviruses, some causing nothing worse than a cold. It causes cold- and flu-like symptoms, including cough and fever, and in more severe cases, shortness of breath. It can worsen to pneumonia, which can be fatal.


First detected in China, the virus is believed to have originated in a type of wild animal sold at a Chinese market to be consumed as food.
Iran has applied safety measure on arrival flights at its airports to control a possible spread of the virus.

Elsewhere in the Middle East, nine cases have been confirmed in the United Arab Emirates, seven of them Chinese nationals, one Indian and one Filipino, while Egypt’s Health Ministry confirmed its first case last Friday.

Egypt’s Health Ministry only identified its sole case as a foreigner who is carrying the virus but not showing any serious symptoms. The ministry said the person was hospitalized and in isolation. It did not specify the person’s nationality or what port of entry he or she arrived at in Egypt.

The case in Egypt was also the first on the African continent. Experts and African leaders have expressed concern that should the virus spread there, it might wreak havoc among less developed countries with fewer health resources.

This story has been corrected to show that of the nine cases confirmed in the United Arab Emirates, not all are Chinese; seven are Chinese nationals, one is Indian and one is Filipino.

Source (https://apnews.com/c4d12a3d3061f3557ac2b959bca5716d)

[ExomatrixTV]

SMOKING GUN: China Bought Weaponized Wuhan Virus From USA

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Bioweapons expert Dr. Francis Boyle joins The Alex Jones Show to expose the smoking gun linking the weaponized Wuhan virus to the United States.

[Delight]

Press Conference "Aboard the #DiamondPrincess" by Kentaro Iwata Thursday, Feb.20, 2020, 11:00 - 12:00 (Speech and Q & A will be in English.) Iwata will speak to the FCCJ about his time on board via Skype from his self-imposed exile in a hotel.

Live Streaming: Kentaro Iwata (from remote place via Skype broadcasting)LIVE
This event is scheduled for February 19 at 8:30 PM (https://vimeo.com/392409467)

As of 9:22pm, started late

[frankstien]

David Icke - Vaccine Big Brother Goes Full Fascist - (cue to 8 mins. if you want to cut to the (coronavirus) chase)
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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FJeJaCA1TcYg%2Fhqdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/billgates
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/03/how-to-fight-the-next-epidemic/

[Sadieblue]

It's on now Delight, thanks for the link.

[Delight]

It's on now Delight, thanks for the link.

I heard that there were 2 deaths of passengers from Diamond Princess and here it is on twitter:

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1230320994298073088

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[Bill Ryan]

A comprehensive further update from Chris Martenson, posted last night. All his videos are getting 200k-300k (or more) views within days. For me, he's the best daily analysis source I know of. His videos come out regularly at about 7 pm US eastern time. He usually has 10k-12k people listening live.

A quote to bookmark (4:35): "This virus moves a lot faster than official policy."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXelEi4tqAo

[Tintin]

The excerpt that is missing is from Sylvia Browne’s book, “End of days: predictions and prophecies about the end of the world (https://www.amazon.com/End-Days-Predictions-Prophecies-About/dp/0451226895)”.

The quote is as follows -

“In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely.”



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Now posted - in two tweets - on @AvalonForum (https://twitter.com/AvalonForum)

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[Philippe]

For as far as I can follow all these reports, I notice 2 outpoints of missing data in the vital statistics: the number of sick persons that have recovered ( somebody on the forum has correctly pointed out before the importance to know that) and the age of the persons that have died from the disease ( I am still following the Argentine press and the Society of Infectologia over there is stating that most deaths because of the Corona virus are persons older than 60 years who probably have immune deficiency, chronical disease, cardiovascular problems, astma, etc. but without giving the source for that information. That is not correct because of the stories we read of younger persons succumbing). This data would help to judge the survival potential of those that are affected.

[ExomatrixTV]

⚠️ #Stop5G 🦜🦋🌳 ... Lena Pu - #5G (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g) & The Wuhan Debacle
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Lena Pu is a mother of two teenage children, her past work involved restoring sensitive environmental habitat for the US Army Corps of Engineers. As a project manager, she worked with all the alphabet agencies for several years and took that experience and training as well as knowledge of environmental toxicology into her new line of work and passion – promoting the health of all life by preserving our natural electromagnetic earth through the use of safe technologies, WIRED tech. She is currently the Environmental Health Consultant for the ‘National Association for Children and Safe Technologies’ (NACST.org).

5G: Health Risks (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g), Surveillance and BioWeaponry - Lena Pu (Sept 2019)

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"5G: Health Risks, Surveillance and BioWeaponry” is the presentation given by Lena P at the September 19 , 2019 meeting of the Silicon Valley Health Institute in Palo Alto, CA.

5G (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g), also known as the 5th generation cellular communications technology, has unique properties that sets it apart from all the previous “G”enerations. The introduction of the extremely high frequency millimeter wave bandwidths within the microwave spectrum, the introduction of new delivery systems and propagation techniques such as beam forming technologies, phased arrays and others, without limit, and the introduction of a flood of new bills to fast track this new technology robbing people and their local cities and counties, even local tribes and historic preservation sites, the right to control their own communities and homes of any 5G/4G cell antenna placement by private corporations.

Because of this, never before in the history of wireless development has the introduction of a particular technology created such an outpouring of feverish resistance by people all over the world. They have reason. After all, who wants a cluster of close proximity, high voltage equipment, microwave-emitting cell antennas placed on a simple light pole right in front of their house every hundred(s) of feet?

About Lena Pu

Lean Pu is a mother of two teenage children, her past work involved restoring sensitive environmental habitat for the US Army Corps of Engineers. As project manager she worked with all the alphabet agencies for several years and took that experience and training as well as knowledge of environmental toxicology into her new line of work and passion – promoting the health of all life by preserving our natural electromagnetic earth through the use of safe technologies, WIRED tech. She is currently the Environmental Health Consultant for the ‘National Association for Children and Safe Technologies’ (NACST.org). She is spearheading her own website starting the new year called FabulousFrequencies.com (http://FabulousFrequencies.com).


--o-O-o--

⚠️ We all are forced in to "live" in a (corrupted) world saturated with: Cumulative Harmful "Xeno Non-Native Erratic Pulsed EMFs" Radiation 24/7

You suppose to "love" your servitude, enslavement and being poisoned & radiated 24/7 ... hating all of that is not good for their agenda.

cheers,
John Kuhles
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g)

[Agape]

Something differential came on my mind yesterday concerning origin of the coronavirus. Can’t really discard the option completely even if it sounds half delirious neither I’m contesting any prevailing theories of the viruses origin.
Most of our local Himalayan community already believe it’s some kind of mysterious super weapon, anyway.

What occurred to me was a connection to the burning bush and wildfires in Australia. The fires were huge. I don’t know even the numbers out of my head but I’m sure they were visible from the International Space Station.
Acres of bush burnt with most of animals within them. The heat had to force snakes and all the rest of underground dwellers out of their holes. So much of the wild life burnt. Though it seems that koalas were on the wild market menu in Wuhan alongside other creatures.
Yeah got me right, the clouds of smoke had to reach quite high in the atmosphere and disperse.

Australian summer coincides with the beginning of our winter that’s when people started dying out of sudden.


Dr Yeshi Dondhen (https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/yeshi-dhonden-former-personal-physician-to-the-dalai-lama-dies) , Tibetan most famous doctor, cancer expert, former physician of the Dalailama passed away after developing sudden respiratory difficulties, at 2.53 AM on November 26, 2019. He was 93 true but he was in excellent health. It was a shock for the community since it all happened overnight.


Nextly, similar case occurred on December 30th 2019, with sudden passing of Garje Khamthul Rinpoche (https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/lhundrub-chime-gatsal-ling-announces-passing-of-garje-khamtrul-rinpoche) who was a senior tutor of H.H.Dalailamas, Karmapas and many Nyigma ( old school) lamas , held by great respect for his master ship of inner yogas as well as scholarly accomplishments,
Rinpoche passed out to the final samadhi state after developing sudden respiratory difficulties.

There seemed to be severe virosis going through and around at Xmas, long before Chinese media announced the outbreak. I’m not saying it was the coronavirus but could have been another one, certainly something new.

It felt really badly for about 3 or 4 days to a week, depending on your overall condition I guess. Coupled with any other issues one may have had it certainly caused restricted breathing, gasping for breath and extreme fatigue among else.

Almost everyone got it and each person it seems had slightly different symptoms.

I repeat I’m not saying it was Covid-19 but it was something new and unusual.

Friend in the UK was hit by what he described as severe hit of flu at exactly the same time.

So we have talked about viruses and the danger precognitively at that time.


The problem with any new viruses is that vital response depends on how strong or smart is our immunity system is, there is no way to test them all or get ready.
There are ways to keep yourself well and golden rules of cleanliness and purity and reducing exposure to the dirtiness but ultimately, someone has to deal with it anyway.

In either case, forgive my rant and hope I’m wrong with my atmospheric dispersal theory because if I was correct it would be worse already.



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[frankstien]

"Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely."Hey, this sounds like the 24/7 War on Terror--Terrorism on Demand/Where and When the NWO wants it.

FYI--
BILL GATES DEMANDS: 95% Population Reduction, Control Of Big Pharma, Forced Vaccinations
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Bill Gates: The next outbreak? We’re not ready
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https://i.ibb.co/Ydx3Qmm/roth-and-rock-virus-vaccine-scheme-ink-on-paper-12x9-2020-w.jpg

[ExomatrixTV]

Breaking: "CORONAVIRUS CHAOS Goes GLOBAL" / US Hospitals Prepare For Pandemic:
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[syrwong]

These are the data I collected. The death rates D1 and D2 as explained in an earlier post are calculated.

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When the pandemic is gone, D1=D2. The converse is also true. When D1=D2, all patients are either dead or recovered, the pandemic is over. I drew the trends lines of D1 and D2 for Hubei (Wuhan). D2 is dropping at a fast rate while D1 is moving up slowly, it is predicted by linear regression that the two lines meet at about Feb 26. This might mean that the coronavirus will suddenly disappear near that date.


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Looks like if there is no unexpected factors, the coronavirus will be eradicated by the end of the month. This seems very much over-optimistic, but should'nt we be optimistic? (A possible explanation is that a rapid cure has been found)

[ExomatrixTV]

CORONAVIRUS NEWS: China's attempt to COVER-UP virus will affect America too:
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Glenn breaks down how China attempted to COVER UP the Coronavirus after a heroic, whistleblower doctor tried to sound the alarm on the new virus months ago. Through misinformation, a draconian crackdown, and censorship, the Chinese Communist Party did everything they could to protect their utopian image...NOT the people. And, even if the virus never reaches America's shores, that kind of socialism and communism already has. If we don't sound the alarm on what China is doing to hide coronavirus, then will we ever effectively sound the alarm when U.S. politicians use the very same tactics?


Draconian Crackdown?

[Iloveyou]

We're living in a dangerous world. That's simply a fact.


A few predictions and speculations from myself . . . . .

Bill, I‘m convinced now of what I‘ve been suspecting for quite a while: I’m on a totally different timeline than you, meanwhile, though still close enough to talk to you via the net :) Just saying . . .

I grok what you are stating here I think. These events are not appearing locally for you? You are feeling quite satisfied with everything and not able to put it into your own personal reality tunnel?


This is pure allegation, insinuation, it is not what I stated (or intended to state).

But of course, you are right. Absolutely right.I'll try and interpret. (If I can!) If I have it all wrong, please do forgive me . . .


Hi Bill, I do feel I have to say a few more words, then I‘ll be in peace and leave the thread alone (but continue reading). You are not wrong with what you said, on the opposite: quite precisely right. One tiny correction perhaps: I‘m not determined not to bring bad things on myself, I am determined to bring only good things on myself etc. That‘s a difference. But that‘s only the minor part.

What worried me about the thread, was not the provided information (much appreciated), it was the way it is presented. Highly alarmist videos, the images playing on peoples emotions, triggering certain feelings, sick, miserable, anxious patients, dying people(?), crowded hospitals, masks, protective gear, street- and police scenes shared on twitter and from sources that cannot really be verified - where they originate from. I’m highly suspicious about that. Am I mistaken here?

Many of them trigger emotions and reach only to the subconscious of even very clear minds, rational thinkers. These videos and messages are not specificly directed at the alternative community who could handle it, maybe to a certain extent. They are directed at the general public. And few things are worse and more dangerous imo than an emotional triggered, agitated crowd.

I prefer the way f. e. David Icke conveys his (often mind-boggling) messages. A face on the screen, talking passionately and calmly, shaking up his audience, never manipulating, not even subtly. This just to give a counterpart to much of the ‚info’ generally shared regarding COVID19.

I thought it no fault for people to consider this. And on a personal note - beware, this is 80 percent fun and 20 percent serious - now you‘ve put me in the section of people ‚who always mean well‘ - there‘s a German-speaking author who said: omg, please save me / spare me from people who always mean well ! :)

But you’ve always been kind, fair and very supporting, I’ll forgive you :) Anyway, thanks for the response, thanks for the INFO shared here and - all will be well.

[onawah]

Behind the explosive Charles Lieber scandal
Feb 20 2020
by Jon Rappoport

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/20/behind-the-explosive-charles-lieber-scandal/

"Once upon a time, they called it espionage. Then they called it “illegal technology transfer.” Then they casually and admiringly called it Globalism.
Imagine this.

A cutting-edge technology, which has applications for weaponry, transportation, medicine, artificial intelligence, surveillance, mind control…is being openly shared between the US and China.

As just one example, tiny sensors would, up the road, be placed inside the human body. These sensors automatically monitor and report thousands of changes, in real time, in the body—as a way of diagnosing diseases.

The sensors will transmit all this information, through the emerging Internet of Things—using the 5G pipeline—to medical centers—where AI corporate and government analysts will confirm the disease diagnoses and prescribe treatments.

Eventually, a few billion people (patients) would, through these sensors in their bodies, be hooked up to the 5G Internet of Things.

However, as I’ve reported many times in these pages, the standard definitions of diseases and disorders are often incorrect, or even invented. But because the future system I’ve just sketched is automated, the patient is enclosed in a fake and dangerous bubble. Among other problems, the disease treatments, the drugs, are toxic.

What is the technology that is on the way to producing these body sensors?

Nanoscience. Nano-engineering.

One of the leading nanoscience researchers in the world was recently arrested on a charge of concealing his connections to China.

Major US science star busted by the feds.

Charles Lieber, now suspended by Harvard, is the University’s chairman of the chemistry department.

I have read two articles from a foreign news outlet headlined with the claim that Lieber stole and smuggled the “new coronavirus” from the US to China. In both cases, the text of the articles mentioned nothing about such a theft. Click bait? I’m not writing this article about “coronavirus.” I’ve been writing many articles rejecting the premise of an “epidemic” caused by the “virus” (archive here: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/category/sars/).

I decided to look into this situation, because Lieber does apparently have big-time connections to China. Sharing research on his specialty, nanoscience, with China would be one more case of “technology sharing.”

Bloomberg News, February 12, 2020, “The U.S. Government’s China Crackdown Comes to Harvard”:

“Lieber’s arrest on Jan. 28 came in connection with his dealings in China. He hasn’t been charged with any type of economic espionage, intellectual-property theft, or export violations. Instead, he’s accused of lying to U.S. Department of Defense investigators about his work with the People’s Republic…”

“…by targeting Lieber, the chairman of Harvard’s chemistry department and a veritable ivory tower blue blood, prosecutors struck at the crimson heart of the academic elite, raising fears that globalism, when it comes to doing science with China, is being criminalized.”

“According to a government affidavit, signed by a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent named Robert Plumb, Lieber signed at least three agreements with Wuhan Technology University, or WUT, in central China. These included a contract with the state-sponsored Thousand Talents Plan—an effort by Beijing to attract mostly expatriate [Chinese] researchers and their know-how back home—worth a total of about $653,000 a year in pay [to Lieber] and living expenses for three years, plus $1.74 million [to Lieber] to support a new ‘Harvard-WUT Nano Key Lab’ in Wuhan. The government offered no evidence that Lieber actually received those sums… Lieber also deceived Harvard about his China contracts, the [federal] affidavit said.”

“Whatever extracurricular arrangements Lieber may have had in China, his Harvard lab was a paragon of U.S.-China collaboration. He relied on a pipeline of China’s brightest Ph.D. students and postdocs, often more than a dozen at a time, to produce prize-winning research on the revolutionary potential of so-called nanowires in biomedical implants. Dozens of Lieber’s 100 or so former lab members from China have chosen to stay in the U.S. Many now lead their own nanoscience labs at top universities, including Duke, Georgia Tech, MIT, Stanford, University of California at Berkeley, and UCLA.”

I’d say that’s pretty big technology-transfer WOW right there.

“In the 1990s and 2000s, as Lieber’s achievements and stature were taking off, U.S. research institutions and grant makers pumped money and moral support into expanding the burgeoning collaborations between scientists in the U.S. and other countries, particularly China. The new paradigm was globalization, China was an emerging economic power, and Lieber’s lab became an exemplar of pan-Pacific collaboration. “

Another WOW. Not a leak of information. A flood.

“A more controversial Lieber protégé is Liqiang Mai, the international dean and chair of materials science at WUT, the little-known school in Wuhan that prosecutors allege recruited Lieber to be a ‘strategic scientist’ in 2011, for $50,000 a month. Mai, who hasn’t been named in any U.S. filings against Lieber, earned a doctorate at WUT in 2004 and worked as a postdoc in Lieber’s lab from 2008 to 2011, according to Mai’s WUT online bio…”

How big a star is Lieber? Wikpedia: “Charles M. Lieber (born 1959) is an American chemist and pioneer in the field of nanoscience and nanotechnology. In 2011, Lieber was recognized by Thomson Reuters as the leading chemist in the world for the decade 2000-2010 based on the impact of his scientific publications. Lieber has published over 400 papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals and has edited and contributed to many books on nanoscience. He is the principal inventor on over fifty issued US patents and applications, and founded the nanotechnology company Nanosys in 2001 and Vista Therapeutics in 2007. He is known for his contributions to the synthesis, assembly and characterization of nanoscale materials and nanodevices, the application of nanoelectronic devices in biology, and as a mentor to numerous leaders in nanoscience. In 2012, Lieber was awarded Israel’s Wolf Prize in Chemistry.”

Chemistry and Engineering News, January 28, 2020, “Harvard chemist Charles Lieber charged with fraud”:

“In addition, Lieber allegedly signed a contract that obligated Harvard to become part of a cooperative research program that allowed WUT [Chinese] scientists to visit the university up to two months each year. The [federal] complaint says he did not inform university officials of the agreement, which was for ‘advanced research and development of nano wire-based lithium-ion batteries with high performance for electric vehicles’.”

Another “technology transfer” of great value.

“…the NIH [US National Institutes of Health, a federal agency] asked Harvard about whether the university or Lieber failed to disclose his financial relationship with China. Lieber has been a principal investigator on at least three NIH grants totaling $10 million since 2008. After interviewing Lieber, Harvard [incorrectly, supposedly based on Lieber’s statements] responded to the NIH that he [Lieber] had ‘no formal association with WUT [Wuhan Institute of Technology]’ and ‘is not and has never been a participant in’ the [Chinese] Thousand Talents program.”

NIH has strict regulations about its researchers disclosing their conflict-of-interest connections. The feds obviously believe Lieber has failed to report his China connections to NIH. This may become a factor in his prosecution.

Lieber was operating a robust center at Harvard: Lieber Research Group. Its focus is nanoscience and nanotechnology. So it’s natural to ask, what kind of research findings would be shared with China?

On the Group’s website, there is this, right off the bat: “We are pioneering the interface between nanoelectronics and the life sciences…sensors for real-time disease detection…”

Hence, the picture of the future I sketched at the beginning of this article.

I may report further on nanoscience. Of course, the ominous technological innovations apply to both China and the US, and the rest of the world…

The Chinese government has the clout, will, force, and intent to impose, without hesitation, every sort of possible control on its 1.4 billion citizens. It is in the process of building many new “smart cities.” These centers will be models of wall-to-wall surveillance. AI, Internet of Things, 5G, the works. If nanoscience can achieve much more intimate access to people, through implanted sensors, why wouldn’t the central government jump at the chance to deploy it? The rationale and the cover story are obvious: WE MUST HAVE EARLY KNOWLEDGE OF NEW VIRUS EPIDEMICS. WE WILL DETECT THEM DIRECTLY FROM THE BODIES OF OUR PEOPLE IN REAL TIME.

All hail, Globalism and technocracy."

[Bill Ryan]

What worried me about the thread, was not the provided information (much appreciated), it was the way it is presented. Highly alarmist videos... [snipped]Yes, I really understand. :heart: Some posts on the thread have been more helpful (and balanced, and very probably more accurate!) than others.

For myself, while I read and watch absolutely everything on the thread (I feel I have to), my own go-to sources of video information are:


Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) — preferred by me beyond almost all the others put together. It's a VERY cogent and concise daily summary, released around 7 pm US Eastern time. Martenson is not only very well informed and clearly highly intelligent, he also has a medical background.
Dr Roger Seheult (MedCram) — Mainstream medical analysis, very well explained.
The Patriot Nurse — Great for simple advice about how to best protect your family if things get tough.
The China Report — A broader geopolitical perspective.

I'm personally not paying much attention to Alex Jones, Mike Adams, or even Dr Francis Boyle (who's a lawyer, not a medic, microbiologist or epidemiologist). They tend to over-sensationalize, and the references they cite all need to be checked for accuracy every time.

I also follow the South China Morning News and the Epoch Times, and stay tuned to the BBC and CNN to check what the mainstream is saying. Other sites (a lot of them!), I visit when recommended by any of the above.

I do think that this is a serious situation, and (like the weather forecast before a mountain hike!) that we really do need to be watchful and understand all the possibilities that might play out.

[happyuk]

I still can't help but feel that this is more and more starting to look more like a global exercise in totalitarianism. In the past the regular old flu has killed sixty million and no one felt compelled to lock down tens of millions much less board them up in their homes. I am prepared to admit I am completely mistaken but if the official numbers are correct this lends new meaning to the term ‘storm in a teacup’. We may be witnessing the greatest psychological crowd control methodology in recorded history.

[ExomatrixTV]

Rockerfeller Plan to Use Bioweapons to Impose Martial Law One Quarantine at a Time
5ZC0NOljRWQ
The US military-industrial police state has never hesitated to sacrifice the lives of Americans in order to achieve its goal of locking down control of all movement - not just in & out of the country but within the country. Bioweapons, as the Rockefeller Foundation gleefully pointed out way back in 2010, are a fantastic way to convince an already-mentally-supine population to yield control of their physical forms to the state's machinations as well.

While the interview in this video was recorded in 2014 as an Ebola outbreak ravaged west Africa, Vox's observations are if anything even more applicable to 2020's coronavirus outbreak, which has set western powers salivating as China sets into motion its enviable (if you're a power-mad sociopath) state control machinery to quarantine some 50 million people behind a 'cordon sanitaire' that authorities admit has already allowed carriers of the virus to slip out ahead of its imposition - meaning this massive crackdown on free movement serves no purpose other than as a giant human experiment in what liberties a population will thoroughly trash for the fleeting illusion of security. spoiler alert: too many.

Documents referenced can be found at:
Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development

National Security Memorandum 200, Dec 10 1974 https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf
CDC patent on EboBun (Ebola Bundibugyo) virus https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2741523A1/en

[holcaul]

Please watch this very balanced take on COVID-19


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSiW6ZvPqeg

[Dick]

I still can't help but feel that this is more and more starting to look more like a global exercise in totalitarianism. In the past the regular old flu has killed sixty million and no one felt compelled to lock down tens of millions much less board them up in their homes. I am prepared to admit I am completely mistaken but if the official numbers are correct this lends new meaning to the term ‘storm in a teacup’. We may be witnessing the greatest psychological crowd control methodology in recorded history.

Yes, thats the part i don’t understand about the whole thing, is it that the chinese gouvernement know what this virus realy is, and act so to prevent the worst case scenario, or are they using this to control the people, as you stated above? I realy don’t know.......

[ExomatrixTV]

7,000+ In USA Under Coronavirus Quarantine! Bet You Didn’t Hear That In The News! China Incinerates!
vVnnUFsFEo4

[Ascension]

Somebody is getting bored being stuck at home.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1230416729286696960

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[Agape]

Hi Olam, see how this could turn to “me too” conversation easily but that’s not why I posted it. The thing is far more severe than expected and has different range of symptoms than the casual flu and travel exhaustion.
I don’t think one would get through public transport with it when in acute stage. You can get to bed and “keep dying” till it’s over:)

I seem to be very soft hearted individual compared to the majority of our governed humans however my input seems to be misguiding and attract “blonds” times to times.
No I’m not dull, charmed or suffering from “me too” syndrome.

I’m pretty upset with what’s going on globally and this isn’t the place to fix it all either.

This is serious topic so hope we can keep discussion on level.

Thank you

:focus:

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Denise/Dizi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHSlZIQMa4

News agencies in other countries, discussing the suggestion openly that it was "possibly" a bioweapon. Yet they tend to go towards a regular virus towards the end, probably to stay out of trouble for suggesting as much. Everyone pointing fingers at others.

[Houman]

The following channel compiles videos on this topic
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqEP1SJuT4wS7GFZHOcJsOQ/videos

[Bill Ryan]

Chris Masterson's daily update, from yesterday pm US time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NhJrca9Qts

[Did You See Them]

This graph shows the rise of cases in Asian countries excluding China & Japanese ship.

https://twitter.com/Jacpoludek/status/1230797069369118720/photo/1

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[Bill Ryan]

Rockefeller Plan to Use Bioweapons to Impose Martial Law One Quarantine at a Time
5ZC0NOljRWQ
The US military-industrial police state has never hesitated to sacrifice the lives of Americans in order to achieve its goal of locking down control of all movement - not just in & out of the country but within the country. Bioweapons, as the Rockefeller Foundation gleefully pointed out way back in 2010, are a fantastic way to convince an already-mentally-supine population to yield control of their physical forms to the state's machinations as well.

While the interview in this video was recorded in 2014 as an Ebola outbreak ravaged west Africa, Vox's observations are if anything even more applicable to 2020's coronavirus outbreak, which has set western powers salivating as China sets into motion its enviable (if you're a power-mad sociopath) state control machinery to quarantine some 50 million people behind a 'cordon sanitaire' that authorities admit has already allowed carriers of the virus to slip out ahead of its imposition - meaning this massive crackdown on free movement serves no purpose other than as a giant human experiment in what liberties a population will thoroughly trash for the fleeting illusion of security. spoiler alert: too many.

Documents referenced can be found at:
Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development

National Security Memorandum 200, Dec 10 1974 https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf
CDC patent on EboBun (Ebola Bundibugyo) virus https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2741523A1/en:bump:

And here's the 2010 Rockefeller Foundation document Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Scenarios_for_the_Future_of_Technology_and_International_Development_Rockefeller_Foundation_2010.pdf
(http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Scenarios_for_the_Future_of_Technology_and_International_Development_Rockefeller_Foundation_2010.pdf )
Go to page 18. This (copied below) is just an extract.

If you're reading this post, read the next two paragraphs. This is EXACTLY what's happening now.

Even the most pandemic-prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly 20 percent of the global population and killing 8 million in just seven months, the majority of them healthy young adults. The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies: international mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. Even locally, normally bustling shops and office buildings sat empty for months, devoid of both employees and customers.The pandemic blanketed the planet — though disproportionate numbers died in Africa, Southeast Asia, and Central America, where the virus spread like wildfire in the absence of official containment protocols. But even in developed countries, containment was a challenge. The United States’ initial policy of “strongly discouraging” citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better — China in particular. The Chinese government’s quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post-pandemic recovery.

China’s government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems — from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty — leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power.

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Scenarios_for_the_Future_of_Technology_and_International_Development_Rockefeller_Foundation_2010.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Scenarios_for_the_Future_of_Technology_and_International_Development_Rockefeller_Foundation_2010.pdf
(http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Scenarios_for_the_Future_of_Technology_and_International_Development_Rockefeller_Foundation_2010.pdf )
Go to page 18. This (copied below) is just an extract.

If you're reading this post, read the next two paragraphs. This is EXACTLY what's happening now.
I've been very cautious about all this, absorbing all the information and viewpoints I can find.

But on record here, I'm now stating that I'm VERY persuaded this is an orchestrated scenario. When I read the above I was completely stopped in my tracks. It was so similar to what's happening currently it was even a little hard to believe.

[Innocent Warrior]

I wasn’t going to share it unless I could find a copy of the Chinese scientific report, but I’ve been unsuccessful so far.

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I found the report, thanks to The Post Millennial (https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-coronavirus-may-have-originated-at-wuhan-lab/) (TPM).

This is definitely the report I’ve been looking for, it was originally reported on in a Chinese newspaper and then by a few online news sites in english. This report contains some details that were in one of the online articles I read, but weren’t included in the news report above.

According to TPM, it was a pre-print report. It has since been deleted but not before it was archived HERE (https://web.archive.org/web/20200214144447/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339070128_The_possible_origins_of_2019-nCoV_coronavirus).

Here’s the report copied below (emphasis mine). For ease of reading I’ve removed the reference list figures (IDK how to make them tiny and raise them), see the report for the references. Apologies for the extra spaces between a lot of the words. The report was formatted in a way that made copying and pasting it a tedious task, so I’m leaving those spaces.


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The possible origins of‭ 2019-nCoV coronavirus‬
Botao Xiao*‭, and Lei Xiao‬

‭Joint International Research Laboratory of Synthetic Biology a‭nd Medicine, School ‬‬of Biology and Biological Engineering, South China University o‭f Technology, ‬Guangzhou 510006, China

‭School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and Technolog‭y, Wuhan ‬‬
430074, China

‭Tian You Hospital, Wuhan University of Science and Technology, Wuhan 430064, ‬China

* Corresponding author: xiaob@scut.edu.cn
Tel / Fax: 86-20-3938-0631


The 2019-nCoV coronavirus has c‭aused an epidemic of 28,060 labo‭ratory-confirmed ‬‬infections in human including 564 ‭deaths in China by February 6‭, 2020. Two descriptions ‬‬of ‭ ‬the virus published ‭ ‬on ‭ ‬Nature ‭this week indicated that ‭ ‬the ‭ ‬g‭enome ‭ ‬sequences ‭ ‬from ‬‬patients were ‭ ‬96% ‭ ‬or 89% identic‭al to the ‭ ‬Bat ‭ ‬CoV ZC45 coronavirus originally found in ‬Rhinolophus affinis‭‭. It was critical to study where the pathogen came ‭ ‬from and how‭ it ‬‬‬passed onto human.

An article published on The Lancet‭ reported that 41 people in W‭uhan were found ‭ ‬to ‬‬have the acute respiratory sy‭ndrome and 27 of them ‭ ‬had ‭ ‬contact ‭ with ‭ ‬Huanan ‭ ‬Seafood ‬‬Market‭. The 2019-nCoV was found in 33 out‭ of 585 samples collected in the market after ‬‬the outbreak. The market was sus‭picious to be ‭ ‬the origin of the‭ epidemic, and ‭ ‬was ‭ ‬shut ‬‬down according to the rule of quar‭antine the source during an e‭pidemic.‬‬

The bats carrying ‭ ‬CoV ‭ ‬ZC45 ‭ ‬were originally ‭ ‬found ‭ ‬in Yunnan or Z‭hejiang province, ‬both of ‭ ‬which were more than 900 kilometers away ‭ ‬from ‭ ‬the seafo‭od market. Bats were ‬normally found to live in caves ‭and trees. But the seafood mark‭et is in a densely-populated ‬‬district of Wuhan, a metropolit‭an of ~15 million people. The pr‭obability was very low for the ‬‬bats to fly to the market. According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never‭ a food source in the city, a‭nd no bat was traded in the ‬‬market. There was possible natur‭al recombination or intermediate host of the coronavirus, ‬yet little proof has been reported.

Was there ‭ ‬any ‭ ‬other ‭ ‬possibl‭e ‭ ‬pathway? ‭ ‬We ‭ ‬screened the ‭ ‬ar‭ea ‭ ‬around the ‭ ‬seafood ‬‬market and identified ‭two laboratories conducting ‭research on bat coronavirus‭. Within ~280 ‬‬‬meters from ‭ ‬the ‭ ‬market, there ‭ ‬was ‭ ‬the ‭ ‬Wuhan ‭ ‬Center ‭ ‬for Disease ‭Control & ‭ ‬Prevention ‬(WHCDC) (Figure ‭ ‬1, ‭ ‬from Baidu and Google maps). ‭ ‬WHCDC hosted an‭imals in laboratories ‬for research purpose, one of which was specialized in pathogens‭ collection and identification. ‭ ‬In ‭ ‬one ‭ ‬of their ‭ ‬studies, 155 ‭ ‬bats ‭ ‬including ‭Rhinolophus affinis‭ ‭were ‭ ‬captured in ‭ ‬Hubei ‬‬‬‬province, and other 450 bats were captured in Zhejiang province‭‭. The expert in ‭collection ‬‬‬was noted in the Author Contributions (JHT)‭. Moreover, he was broa‭dcasted for collecting ‬‬viruses on nation-wide newspape‭rs and websites in 2017 and 2019‭‭. He described that ‬‬‬he was once attacked ‭ ‬by ‭ ‬bats ‭and ‭ ‬the blood of ‭ ‬a ‭ ‬bat ‭ ‬shot on ‭ ‬‬his skin. ‭ ‬He ‭ ‬knew ‭ ‬the extreme danger of the infection ‭so he quarantined himself for 1‭4 days‭. In another accident, ‬‬‬he quarantined himself again becaus‭e bats peed on him. He was once thrilled for capturing ‬a bat carrying a live tick‭.‬

Surgery was performed on the caged animals and the tissue sampl‭es were collected for ‬DNA and RNA extraction and sequencing‭. ‭The tissue samples and contaminated trashes ‬‬were ‭ ‬source ‭ ‬of pathogens. ‭They ‭ ‬were ‭ ‬only ‭ ‬~28‭0 ‭ ‬meters ‭ ‬from ‭ ‬the ‭ ‬seafood ‭ ‬market. ‭ ‬The ‬‬WHCDC was also adjacent to the Union Hospital (Figure 1, bottom‭) where the first group ‬of doctors ‭ ‬were infected during ‭this ‭ ‬epidemic. It is plausible ‭ that the virus leaked around ‬‬and some of them contaminated the ‭ initial ‭ ‬patients ‭ ‬in ‭ ‬this ‭ ‬epid‭emic, ‭ ‬though ‭ ‬solid ‭ ‬proofs ‬‬are needed in future study.

The second laboratory was ~12 k‭ilometers from the seafood marke‭t and belonged to ‬‬Wuhan Institute of Virology, C‭hinese Academy of Sciences‭. This laboratory ‬‬reported that the Chinese horseshoe bats were natural reservoir‭s for the severe acute ‬respiratory syndrome coronavirus‭ (SARS-CoV) which caused the 20‭02-3 pandemic‭.‬‬‬ The principle investigator par‭ticipated in a project which gene‭rated a chimeric virus using ‬‬the SARS-CoV reverse genetics sy‭stem, and report‭ed the potential for human ‬‬emergence‭. A direct speculation was that ‭SARS-CoV or its derivative might leak from ‬‬the laboratory.

In summary, somebody was entangled‭ with the evolution of 2019-n‭CoV coronavirus. ‬‬In addition to origins of natura‭l recombination and intermediat‭e host, the killer coronavirus ‬‬probably originated from a labor‭atory in Wuhan. Safety level ma‭y need to be reinforced in ‬‬high ‭ ‬risk ‭ ‬biohazardous‭ ‬laboratorie‭s. ‭ ‬Regulations ‭ ‬may ‭ ‬be ‭ ‬taken ‭ ‬t‭o ‭ ‬relocate ‭ ‬these ‬‬laboratories far away from cit‭y center and other densely popula‭ted places. ‬‬


Contributors
BX designed the comment and perfor‭med literature search. All au‭thors performed data ‬‬acquisition and analysis, collect‭ed documents, draw the figure,‭ and wrote the papers. ‬‬

Acknowledgements
This work is supported by the Nati‭onal Natural Science Foundati‭on of China (11772133,‬‬
11372116).

Declaration of interests
All authors declare no competing interests.


*****

One of the authors of the report, Botao Xiao, can be seen HERE (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ap6QWmcAAAAJ&hl=en) on Google Scholar.

[Eligos]

Trump Regime Overruled CDC, Flew Coronavirus-Infected Americans on Plane With Healthy People: Report


https://gizmodo.com/trump-regime-overruled-cdc-flew-coronavirus-infected-a-1841826671

How else can one analyze this but think that they are really trying to infect the US?
This kind of error is so blatant it’s insane!

[Denise/Dizi]

The more I learn about humanity, the more ashamed I am of their (Our) behavior... I just had to say it...

[ExomatrixTV]

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Seems like it really gets worse and worse ... still I feel there is much much more to it than only the (weaponized) virus!

John

[ExomatrixTV]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=42547 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g/permalink/866538843781272/)


Source (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g/permalink/866538843781272/)

[Delight]

I've been very cautious about all this, absorbing all the information and viewpoints I can find.

But on record here, I'm now stating that I'm VERY persuaded this is an orchestrated scenario. When I read the above I was completely stopped in my tracks. It was so similar to what's happening currently it was even a little hard to believe.

You found something that to me is part of a playbook. But what can we do in the US? Mike is always predicting the worst but I agree with his overall suspicions. Considering the crack down on dissenting voices for natural health care and about vaccine hesitance...I know there is something deliberate happening.

Mike is saying something we may want to think about in the US?

Now that you have advanced knowledge of the coronavirus outbreak coming to America, what will you do with this information?
(https://www.brighteon.com/43eeb6a8-392e-46b6-93c7-c3780227c317)

This is about the use of vitamin C with Covid19

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[Chester]

Readers are advised to read the following with great skepticism. Still, I am posting this here at PA because PA members do like to explore potential real world conspiracies.

Are They Burning Dead Bodies In Wuhan, China To Hide The Inadvertent Release Of A Mortal Nerve Toxin? (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/bill-sardi/are-they-burning-dead-bodies-in-wuhan-china-to-hide-the-inadvertent-release-of-a-mortal-nerve-toxin/)


A marginally credible website (UFO Spotlight) has over a half-million views for its chilling OMG report that states the true magnitude of China’s coronavirus outbreak, when unmasked, is unfathomable. (This author is not posting the exact URL over concern for the spread of more misinformation.)

Said to originate from an interview of a Chinese intelligence officer, who says he is in grave danger, because this infectious disease outbreak is being used to consolidate political power and control over their population and that sources inside the U.S.A. are complicit with this hidden agenda, namely to manipulate and control thinking patterns of its citizens and strike a terrifying level of fear that gets the masses to do what their overseers demand.

The story says there is no coronavirus. That was all made up to cover for the horror that resulted from a toxin that was mistakenly released. This report talks of 21 vials of some sort of transmissible and invisible aerosolized nerve agent that was in the process of being handed off from Chinese to CIA-western security agents when it was dropped at an open market and began to spread.

The report says China bought a weaponized Wuhan virus from the U.S. to cover for release of the nerve toxin. The toxin was intended to induce mental decline and reduction of higher thinking processes. It ended up causing panic attacks with rapid deterioration of entire systems in the body, with arteries melting and tissue disintegration that caused its sufferers to beg to be put to death. Fatality rate is 100% says this 1st-person report.

An eerie video is shown of a fleet of disinfection trucks that release a foggy mist, combing through the streets of Wuhan at night. Even the very existence of these trucks is very fear-evoking. Only a special mask protects against it, says the report. Newly constructed hospitals, says this Chinese military officer, are just morgues. (Is your hair standing straight up now?)

Here is the truth:

There ARE millions of dead bodies being incinerated in or near Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the current coronavirus epidemic.

As evidence is the smoky air that is seen in Wuhan. Called the “coronavirus death smog,” self-proclaimed whistle blowers claim the sulfur dioxide smoke, commonly seen in aerial photos of the city of Wuhan, emanates from incinerators and serve as evidence of mass cremations. And there are sulfur dioxide maps to prove it.

Sulfur dioxide is a smelly gas (like burnt matches) released naturally in the atmosphere, usually from crude oil burning in power plants or other factories.

Months before the coronavirus outbreak there were protests in Wuhan over installation of a waste incineration plant. Were Wuhan residents wary of an incinerator that could be used to hide the dead bodies in a mass culling of the population?

It is reported there are 84 incinerators in funeral homes in Wuhan that have a capacity to perform over 2000 cremations in a day and that they are working around the clock in recent weeks.

A Radio Free Asia news report says there are ~70,000 infections in Wuhan, but an unconfirmed source in China says there are over 500,000 infections. With a 2% mortality rate, that would result in more than 10,000 deaths, not the ~2000 widely reported. While this is speculation, the numbers can’t be confirmed by digging up graves; incinerated bodies are ash.

Most human populations have no pre-existing antibodies against this newly mutated coronavirus, save for the few who have been infected and developed their own antibodies naturally, without a vaccine (there is no approved vaccine). So, fear strikes deep and fast around the world with the prospect of a massive die off of human populations looming in the back of people’s minds. The world’s masses could be forced to comply with their overseers to spare themselves such horror.

If this mutated coronavirus, or the inadvertently release toxin have killed millions (half of the population in Wuhan, China, is missing, said to have fled the city once quarantines were announced). Did mass numbers of missing humans die from mutated coronaviral infection and/or the nerve toxin with a resultant government ruse to hide what would be the greatest loss to human life since the Black Plague?

But hold up. The news reports are sensationalist, used to draw web traffic from all over the globe.

The millions of dead bodies being incinerated are pigs, not humans.

Another viral outbreak, the African Swine Fever, has been devastating swine herds in China and Europe since 2018, wiping out roughly one-quarter of the world’s pigs. The African Swine Fever is highly contagious and kills off pig herds rapidly, but does not threaten human populations. China used to have 440 million pigs, a number that has been cut in half. China’s hog business has reportedly sustained $1 trillion of losses since August 2018.

African Swine Fever has spurred along an effort to develop a vaccine. More disconcerting, there are news reports of criminal gangs in China spreading African Swine Fever virus to force farmers to sell pigs cheaply.

But the satellite images showing sulfur dioxide (SO2) clusters in the Wuhan area represent commonly high SO2 levels. The satellite data emanates from forecasts and probabilities and may be error-prone says a report in EURONEWS.

If anything is being incinerated in masse, it is Swine Fever-infected pigs.

But a question remains: is the COVID-19 coronavirus really a virus? Or is it some other pathogen? That will be the subject of my next report.

[Chester]

The more I learn about humanity, the more ashamed I am of their (Our) behavior... I just had to say it...

me too... ashamed.

[Philippe]

Sammy,
About an interview of a "Chinese intelligence officer" (Earlier on it was presented as his report and wherin he assured why he could write in perfect english ;-) )

Bill correctly pointed out in an earlier post that no Chinese intelligence officer would ever write like that .

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336663&viewfull=1#post1336663

I had already wondered how somebody who went through extreme terror and still in great danger could write such a precisely formulated report.

Disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides.

[Franny]

Trump Regime Overruled CDC, Flew Coronavirus-Infected Americans on Plane With Healthy People: Report


https://gizmodo.com/trump-regime-overruled-cdc-flew-coronavirus-infected-a-1841826671

How else can one analyze this but think that they are really trying to infect the US?
This kind of error is so blatant it’s insane!

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I think this is important enough to copy the article here, please read it below. The State Department deliberately mingled infected and, asymptomatic passengers with crew on an evacuation airplane. They will be quarantined for 14 days even though infected asymptomatic people can spread the disease for at least up to 24 days. We know this, do they?

The U.S. State Department overruled the advice of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), choosing to bring 14 Americans who were infected with the new coronavirus back from Japan, according to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-diamond-princess-cruise-americans/2020/02/20/b6f54cae-5279-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html). The new report raises serious questions about the U.S. government’s decisions at a time when the coronavirus, which causes an illness called Covid-19, threatens to become a global pandemic.

The American evacuees were passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise, which has been quarantined in Yokohama, Japan since February 5. Over 600 of the 3,700 passengers from the Diamond Princess have tested positive for the virus, and it was announced yesterday that two Japanese passengers in their 80s recently died (https://gizmodo.com/2-cruise-ship-passengers-die-of-coronavirus-raising-de-1841804760). The U.S. chartered two Boeing 747 planes to bring Americans from the cruise ship to military bases in California and Texas where they’re being quarantined for 14 days.

One of the U.S. State Department’s evacuation planes was loaded with 328 Americans on Monday when new lab results came back showing that 14 of the passengers had tested positive for the coronavirus. The CDC’s principal deputy director, Anne Schuchat, recommended that the 14 passengers be taken off the plane and receive medical attention in Japan. But Trump officials like Robert Kadlec, assistant secretary for preparedness and response at HHS, disagreed with the CDC, according to the Washington Post.

Kadlec, who previously worked as a special assistant to President George W. Bush (http://med.stanford.edu/biosecurity/people/advisory-board/kadlec--robert.html) and serves as a member of the Trump regime’s coronavirus task force, reportedly argued that the planes that had been chartered by the government contained seats which could be cordoned off for any infected passengers. This news wasn’t shared with the other healthy passengers on the flight, many of whom only learned about flying with infected passengers after they landed in the U.S. and saw news reports.

Videos posted online by American passengers from the evacuation flights show potentially infected passengers being put in a special area of the plane. One health worker in a blue suit appears to instruct some passengers with his hands above his head.

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The U.S. State Department made the final decision to allow the infected passengers to fly (in the same airspace as uninfected passengers and crew) siding with Kadlec over the CDC. As a result, officials from the CDC asked that the Trump regime leave their names off the press release about the evacuation.

“CDC did weigh in on this and explicitly recommended against it,” the CDC’s Schuchat wrote in an email to the Trump regime that was shared with the Washington Post. “We should not be mentioned as having been consulted as it begs the question of what was our advice.”

The number of coronavirus cases outside China continues to climb, with South Korea and Iran reporting their first deaths from Covid-19 this week (https://gizmodo.com/2-cruise-ship-passengers-die-of-coronavirus-raising-de-1841804760). And new cases of the disease are popping up daily in places like Italy. (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/21/world/europe/21reuters-china-health-italy.html) Cases in South Korea doubled overnight, bringing the total number of infected people in that country to 204, according to the Korea Times (https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/02/119_283854.html).

And even within China, where the virus is thought to be slowing its spread, there are some frightening new reports. A 29-year-old doctor in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, died on Friday, a worrying sign in a region where at least 3,000 health care workers have been stricken with the virus. The doctor’s age has also alarmed some public health experts since the vast majority of fatalities from the virus had previously been in people over the age of 60.

Prisons across China are also trying to control the virus, as Rencheng Prison in the Chinese province of Shandong has reported over 200 cases (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3051688/coronavirus-115-new-deaths-confirmed-hubei-officials-report-411) of the new coronavirus in prisoners on Thursday, with seven guards also contracting the disease. An additional 230 cases were reported at Wuhan Women’s Prison on Friday, according to the South China Morning Post.

Meanwhile, allies of President Donald Trump, like anti-China commentator Gordon Chang, have become darkly boastful that the Covid-19 has been hitting China incredibly hard. Chang appeared on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show (https://www.foxnews.com/media/china-expert-tucker-carlson-tonight-chinese-dominance-american-market) this week and tweeted about how China will decline on the world stage in the wake of the virus.

“Many smart people, knowing that China would dominate the world, thought they should try to manage America’s decline,” Chang tweeted on Thursday (https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1230147427795185667). “Look who’s declining now. It ain’t America. Funny what a tiny microbe can do.”

Aside from being a disgusting thing to say on a human level, it’s way too early for anyone outside China to assume that they won’t see the virus impact their country soon.

“Yes, the U.S. is already being affected, and it will get worse,” Chang conceded in a follow-up tweet (https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1230509976415866882). “Our society will not, however, be afflicted to the same degree.”

We’ll certainly see about that. With Trump at the wheel, I wouldn’t get too cocky.

Matt Novak
Matt Novak is the editor of Gizmodo's Paleofuture blog

[Sarah Rainsong]

I am not ashamed of humanity.

Look, I know people aren't perfect, and there are lots of evil people out there. But there are lots more who are trying. How many people might have been involved in releasing the virus? How many more people are fighting to help them get through this? Not just the doctors and the nurses and the other medical staff...how about the people who just encourage others from the balconies of their apartment? Who share humourous memes just to keep spirits lifted?

It's the truly awful things that take much more of our attention, but remember that most people live their days doing little things.

It's a lot harder to clean up a mess than it is to make one. But the good guys outnumber the bad, and one day we will get this cleaned up.

https://www.boredpanda.com/faith-in-humanity-restored/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=faith+in+humanity+restored

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[Hughe]

Clinical trials of intravenous vitamin C treatments for coronavirus commence in China
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-21-clinical-trials-intravenous-vitamin-c-coronavirus-china.html

[Chester]

Sammy,
About an interview of a "Chinese intelligence officer" (Earlier on it was presented as his report and wherin he assured why he could write in perfect english ;-) )

Bill correctly pointed out in an earlier post that no Chinese intelligence officer would ever write like that .

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336663&viewfull=1#post1336663

I had already wondered how somebody who went through extreme terror and still in great danger could write such a precisely formulated report.

Disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides.

Yes, disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides. That is why I don't believe anything I read (or hear/watch) regarding this virus (and many other subjects of global interest). But also, if the conspiracy theory put forth in the article I posted turned out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised. And I say this based on what I have experienced first hand with regard to this lovely planet as well as all that has been written about, then revised, then revised again and... depending on the source, twisted in all sorts of directions.

Few (if any) are completely immune from the vulnerability to "believe" something that later, turns out not to be true... even some of the more savvy folks that are staff, members or readers of this forum.

[onawah]

U.S. Marines and Navy Prepare to Execute Pandemic Plan As Questions Resurface About Coronavirus Origin
by Barbara Loe Fisher
Published February 20, 2020
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/02/u-s-marines-and-navy-prepare-to-execute-pandemic-plan-as-questions-resurface-about-coronavirus-origin/

"Responding to the coronavirus outbreak in China, where tens of thousands of citizens suspected of being infected with coronavirus (COVID-2019) have been detained and involuntarily taken to quarantine camps,1 on Feb. 1, 2020 an executive order was issued by the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD), including the Joint Chiefs of Staff, directing the U.S. Northern Command to implement the DoD’s Global Campaign Plan for Pandemic and Infectious Diseases.2 On Feb. 12, 2020, orders were sent to the U.S. Marine Corps3 and Navy4 directing “geographic combatant commanders to execute their pandemic plans in response to the NCOV outbreak.”

The U.S. Marine Corps directive told combat commanders to “review, update and validate existing disease containment plans and policies in order to implement procedures for response, isolation, quarantine, restriction of movement and community-based intervention” and to “become familiar with authority to declare a public health emergency, restrict movement, quarantine and isolate [and[ coordinate with Federal, State, local, and military treatment facilities and public health emergency officials…” The U.S. Navy directive stated, “DoD will continue to follow CDC guidance and comply with local public health authorities during this outbreak.”

As of Feb. 18, 2020, there had been 75,198 cases of COVID-2019 detected globally and 2,009 deaths, with all but 1,013 cases and 5 deaths occurring in China.5 The U.S. now has 29 confirmed cases being treated on military bases or in a biocontainment facility.

Reports by Chinese Scientists Raise Questions About Origin of Coronavirus
At the same time, over the past week new questions have resurfaced about whether the novel coronavirus (COVID-2019) can be traced back to scientific research conducted in Wuhan labs, a subject that has been widely discussed since January after the outbreak in China emerged.6 According to a Feb. 16 report in the Daily Mail, scientists at the South China University of Technology have written a paper questioning whether research on bats and respiratory diseases at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control (WCDC) created a new chimeric coronavirus capable of infecting humans. The WCDC is located just 300 yards from the fish and wildlife food market thought to be the origin of the coronavirus and is adjacent to the Union Hospital where the first group of doctors were infected.7

On Feb. 15, a paper was published in The Lancet by Chinese scientists, “Clinical features of patients infected with 2019 novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China.” The authors stated, “In December, 2019, a series of pneumonia cases of unknown cause emerged in Wuhan, Hubei, China, with clinical presentations greatly resembling viral pneumonia” and they described 41 cases hospitalized by Jan. 2, 2020, of which 66 percent (27 people) had been exposed to the food market and 15 percent (6 people) died:

Most of the infected patients were men (30 [73%] of 41); less than half had underlying diseases (13 [32%]), including diabetes (eight [20%]), hypertension (six [15%]), and cardiovascular disease (six [15%]). Median age was 49·0 years (IQR 41·0–58·0). 27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market…Complications included acute respiratory distress syndrome (12 [29%]), RNAaemia (six [15%]), acute cardiac injury (five [12%]) and secondary infection (four [10%]). 13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died.8

The World Health Organization (WHO) continues to maintain that the new virus spontaneously jumped from animals, most likely bats, to humans in the Wuhan market selling seafood and wildlife animals and that online speculation to the contrary is “misinformation.” In early February, International Business Times reported that WHO had teamed up with Google to battle online “misinformation” about the epidemic.9 A Feb. 14 CNBC report revealed that the WHO hosted a meeting at Facebook’s Menlo Park, California campus with Google, Amazon, You Tube, Twitter, Verizon and other big tech companies to discuss how to “tamp down on misinformation about the coronavirus.10

CDC Preparing for Novel Coronavirus to “gain a foothold in the U.S.”
According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, on Feb. 12 Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told media during a conference call “we can and should be prepared for this new virus to gain a foothold in the U.S.”11

On Feb. 14, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced that in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago and New York City, the agency had begun monitoring Americans with flu-like symptoms, who test negative for influenza, by additionally lab testing them for coronavirus. According to CNBC, the CDC intends to add more cities in the coming weeks in an effort to achieve a “national surveillance” system that would act as an early warning that COVID-2019 is spreading, which would “trigger a change in our response strategy,” said Messonnier.12

A report by Reuters stated:

The CDC’s current strategy to fight the virus includes quarantines and travel restrictions, but that may change if the virus takes hold in the United States and begins to spread. In that scenario, the CDC will put in place “social distancing” strategies such as cancelling mass gatherings, using telemedicine, tele-schooling and remote working to try to disrupt the spread of the virus.13[xiii]

Americans on Diamond Princess Cruise Ship Test Positive
More than 600 Americans, who were evacuated from Wuhan, China in early February, have been in quarantined in the U.S. and some have already been released. Other Americans suspected to have come in contact with COVID-2019 have been quarantined on cruise ships. On Feb. 16, about 380 U.S. citizens on the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined in a Japanese harbor, who had not tested positive for coronavirus and were symptom-free, were offered seats on U.S. State Department chartered flights transporting them back to quarantine centers on military bases in California and Texas. According to CNBC, about 300 Americans accepted the State Department’s offer to fly back to the U.S., while nearly 100 others with no symptoms of illness decided to stay on the ship.14

On Feb. 17, the U.S. State Department and Department of Health and Human Services issued a joint statement acknowledging that 14 asymptomatic American evacuees from the Diamond Princess cruise ship were allowed to fly on the chartered flights despite testing positive for coronavirus before getting on the planes.15 According to USA Today, when the planes landed at military bases in Texas and California, 13 passengers who had tested positive for the virus were flown to the University of Nebraska Medical Center and Nebraska Medicine quarantine and biocontainment facility in Omaha for treatment. All of the Americans returning from the Diamond Princess will remain in quarantine for 14 days. 16

By Feb. 18, there had been 542 cases of COVID-2019 diagnosed among the cruise ships’ 3,700 passengers and crew. 17 Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, told USA Today that, “The quarantine process failed.”18

Posse Comitatus Act of 1878
The scope of the mission of the U.S. Marines and U.S. Navy’s involvement in implementing the DoD’s Global Campaign Plan for Pandemic and Infectious Diseases in a civilian population is not clear as that Plan does not appear to have been publicly released by DoD. In general, however, the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) prohibits the carte blanche use of military forces in civilian law enforcement in the U.S.19

According to an essay for the Encyclopedia Brittanica:20

The willful use of the army or air force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws is a felony, unless the use is expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress. The PCA directly applies only to the army and air force, without mentioning the navy, the Marine Corps, the Coast Guard, or the National Guard. The National Guard is subject to Article I, section 8 of the Constitution, “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.” The National Guard is under state control until called into federal service, and is authorized to enforce the laws upon the request of a governor. Because the Coast Guard has a law enforcement function and is not under the control of the Department of Defense, it is not subject to the PCA. Although the naval service is not mentioned in the PCA, Department of Defense regulations extend the PCA to the navy and Marine Corps.

Establishment of the U.S. Northern Command After 9/11
After terrorist attacks on the U.S. mainland on Sept. 11, 2001 (9/11), the U.S. Northern Command was established Oct. 1, 2002. According to a 2008 report to Congress by the Congressional Research Service, “In 2002, President Bush signed a new Unified Command Plan (UCP) establishing United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) to provide command and control of the Department of Defense’ (DOD’s) homeland defense efforts and coordinate military support to civil authorities.”21

NORTHCOM’s area of responsibility includes the continental United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico, and surrounding waters out to approximately 500 nautical miles, including the Gulf of Mexico and the Straits of Florida. Headquartered at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado, the NORTHCOM Commander also commands North American Aerospace Defense Command.22

U.S. Northern Command’s mission is to deter, prevent and defeat threats and aggression aimed at the United States, its territories, and interests. To this end personnel from the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard are assigned to coordinate the protection of North America from external threats, drawing on the full capabilities of all U.S. military services, including the National Guard and Coast Guard, as necessary. Additionally, the command is charged with providing defense support for civil authorities when approved by the President or Secretary of Defense. U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) also provides military resources and support to federal, state and local authorities.23

According to the USNORTHCOM website, so far it “has not had to respond to a large scale threat calling for military intervention” in U.S. territory. It has primarily been used to respond to natural or manmade disasters, such as hurricanes, floods, wildfires, earthquakes and a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, emphasizing that “the philosophy behind USNORTHCOM’s participation in defense support for civil authorities was to be prepared at all times but only to act when requested and to depart just as soon as their support was no longer required.”24

The Feb. 12 DoD directives to the Navy and Marine Corps indicated that officials of U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) made the request to DoD and USNORTHCOM to get involved in anticipation of widespread coronavirus infections in the U.S. and that combatant commanders implementing DoD’s Global Campaign Plan for Pandemic and Infectious Diseases would be following directions from HHS and state and local public health officials.

Post 9/11 Model State Emergency Health Powers Act
After terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C. on September 11, 2001 (9/11), and subsequent reports of biological warfare threats against U.S. citizens, federal health officials immediately began preparing for mass anthrax and smallpox vaccination campaigns in the U.S. At the same time, model state legislation entitled the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) was introduced in multiple states to rewrite state public health laws and give federal and state public health officials sweeping new power over citizens when public health “emergencies” were declared by the Secretary of HHS and state governors.

The CDC had given Professor Lawrence Gostin, PhD, of the Center for Law and the Public’s Health at Georgetown and Johns Hopkins University, funding to develop the model legislation, which is why MSEHPA could be quickly introduced in the states the month after 9/11.25 Among its provisions, MSEHPA gave power to public health officials to:

take control of all roads leading into and out of cities and states;
seize homes, cars, telephones, computers, food, fuel, clothing, firearms and alcoholic beverages for their own use (and not be held liable if these actions result in the destruction of personal property);
arrest, imprison and forcibly examine, vaccinate and medicate citizens without consent (and not be held liable if these actions result in death or injury).
The ACLU and other NGO’s defending civil liberties,26 27 including the National Vaccine Information Center,28 29 opposed the MSEHPA for giving too much power to government health officials to detain, isolate and force vaccination and other medical interventions on citizens without their voluntary informed consent.30 The ACLU described the proposed model legislation as being “replete with civil liberties violations” and failing to “adequately protect citizens against the misuse of the tremendous powers that it would grant [government health authorities] in an emergency.”31

In August 2002, Professor Gostin and his colleagues at Georgetown and Johns Hopkins Universities argued for compulsory quarantine and treatment of individuals in an article for the Journal of the American Medical Association:32

Coercive powers are the most controversial aspects of any legal system… There similarly may be a need to exercise powers over individuals to avert a significant threat to the public’s health. Vaccination, testing, physical examination, treatment, isolation, and quarantine each may help contain the spread of infectious diseases. Although the vast majority of people probably will comply willingly (because it is in their interests and/or desirable for the common welfare), some compulsory powers are necessary for those who will not comply.

In 2003, Gostin replied to critics of the MSEHPA, pointing out that “The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in Healthy People 2010, similarly argued that strong laws are a vital component of the public health infrastructure and recommended that states reform their outdated statutes.” He defended restraint of individual liberty in service to the public health: “When government acts to preserve the public’s health, it can interfere with property rights (e.g., freedom of contract, to pursue a profession, or to conduct a business) or personal rights (e.g., autonomy, privacy, and liberty). The history of public health is littered with illustrations of trade offs between public health and civil liberties.” 33

Gostin questioned American values about “personal and proprietary freedoms” at the turn of the 21st century that opposed “substantial government presence in social and economic life,” and he expressed the opinion that 9/11 “reawakened the political community to the importance of public health:”

American values at the turn of the 21st century fairly could be characterized as individualistic. There was a distinct orientation toward personal and proprietary freedoms and against a substantial government presence in social and economic life. The attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon and the anthrax outbreaks reawakened the political community to the importance of public health. Historians will look back and ask whether September 11, 2001 was a fleeting scare with temporary solutions or whether it was a transforming event.

By 2011, 44 states had passed some form of the MSEHPA.34

After 9/11 Congress Gave More Power to Executive Branch
After 9/11, immediately there were allegations that terrorists possessed weaponized smallpox and anthrax that could be used against the U.S. mainland population. Pressure was placed on Congress to create legislation to protect the American public from future bioterrorism attacks. Congress passed and President George W. Bush signed a series of new laws between 2002 and 2006 that gave expanded powers to the Executive Branch of the federal government and especially strengthened the authority of HHS during declared public health emergencies that involve disease control.

The Homeland Security Act of 200235 created the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which assumed authority over existing federal agencies, including the U.S. Coast Guard, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), U.S. Immigration and Customs Service (ICE), U.S. Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration (TSA), among others. DHS works closely with HHS to respond to public health emergencies.

The National Vaccine Information Center opposed certain provisions in the Homeland Security Act of 2002.36

The Project Bioshield Act of 2004 (“Bioshield 1”)37 38 and Pandemic and All Hazards Preparedness Act of 2006 (“Bioshield 2”)39 40 set up and funded a public-private financial partnership between private pharmaceutical companies and HHS to research and develop bioterrorism and pandemic vaccines for use by U.S. civilian populations. The 2006 Act amended the Public Health Service Act to require the Secretary of HHS to lead all federal public health and medical response to public health emergencies.

The National Vaccine Information Center opposed sections of the 2004 and 2006 Bioshield legislation, calling for responsible congressional oversight on expanded authority granted to federal public health officials by Congress after 9-11.41 42

In the 2004 Bioshield Act, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was given an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)43 that allows experimental drugs and vaccines designated as medical countermeasures (MCM) to be fast tracked to licensure during a federally declared public health emergency. The Pandemic and All Hazards Preparedness Act of 2006 established the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) under HHS as the central point of authority within the federal government responsible for conducting advanced research to develop civilian medical countermeasures in collaboration with the pharmaceutical industry.

BARDA is shielded from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. Drug companies are shielded from liability if the drugs or vaccines developed for and used in HHS declared public health emergencies cause injury or death and so are persons forcing civilians to use the products.44

In 2019, Congress passed The Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act, strengthening the original 2006 Act.45 This new law increased funding for HHS programs and BARDA research to develop genetically engineered vaccines to respond to emerging pandemics and antimicrobial resistance.46

In addition, the government’s official “isolate and quarantine” list was expanded between 2003 and 2014 to include Viral Hemorrhagic Fevers, such as Ebola, and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS),47 adding pandemic influenza in 2005.48 In 2014, the Presidential Executive Order did not name a specific disease that would warrant detention and quarantine, it simply described “diseases associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness” that have “the potential to cause a pandemic” or are “highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled.”49

In 2016, using rule making authority to amend the Public Health Service Act, HHS expanded their police powers to apprehend individuals or their minor children entering the U.S. or traveling across state borders by airplane, ship, bus or train, and isolate or involuntarily quarantine them if they have minor symptoms of illness that could indicate “they are or may become infected with quarantinable infectious diseases.”50 In a public comment to HHS, the National Vaccine Information Center opposed sections of the proposed amendment giving HHR more power to detain, involuntarily quarantine and compel individuals to submit to vaccination as condition for release:51

Health officials in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), have more than enough authority under the U.S. Constitution and the Public Health Service Act to prevent the introduction, transmission and spread of a short list of serious communicable diseases with very high mortality rates, such as hemorrhagic fevers. However, this NPRM makes a point of equating non-quarantinable vaccine-targeted diseases, such as measles and chickenpox, with quarantinable diseases, such as tuberculosis and smallpox. It expands the list of minor illness symptoms that could trigger the use of police power by government health officials to apprehend and involuntarily quarantine individuals, who can be asked to consent to vaccination as a condition of release from government custody.

Microsoft News: Coronavirus Vaccine Will Eliminate Need for Quarantines
On Feb. 6, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announced that it is pledging up to $100 million to combat coronavirus and “help find a vaccine for the virus, limit its spread and improve detection and treatment of patients.” Immediately, $20 million will go to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and World Health Organization.52 Since the Gates Foundation was established in 2000, with a primary goal of funding global public health initiatives, more than $3 billion has been given to fund global vaccination programs.53

Microsoft News, which is owned by Microsoft, a corporation co-founded by Bill Gates, stated that a coronavirus vaccine would end quarantines:

First appearing late December of 2019, the new coronavirus (called the COVID-19) managed to kill almost 1,400 people and infect several thousands more in Mainland China alone in a mere two months, putting people to pin their hopes on one of the most effective disease-fighting tools: a vaccine. Having one would mean that there would no longer be a need to quarantine people nor close off cities and monitor airports because people would be protected from the virus even before they get exposed.54"

References:

ACLU, Anthony Fauci, Barbara Loe Fisher, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Bioshield, CDC, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, China, CNBC, coronavirus, COVID-2019, Daily Mail, Diamond Princess, Encyclopedia Brittanica, Georgetown University, Healthy People 2010, Johns Hopkins University, Journal of the American Medical Association, Lawrence Gostin, MSEHPA, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Vaccine Information Center, NIH, NVIC, Project Bioshield Act of 2004, South China University of Technology, The Vaccine Reaction, USA Today, WCDC, WHO, World Health Organization, Wuhan Centers for Disease Control, Wuhan Institute of Virology

[ErtheVessel]

Don't know if this has been posted here on this thread yet - a friend just sent it to me today. It's an interview with the creator of the US Bioweapons Act who says he believes this new coronavirus is a bioweapon.

Taken from a website called thevaccinereaction.org. I can't find the video on youtube, though it is imbedded in their website, as I've linked here.

https://thevaccinereaction.org/?s=creator+of+us+bioweapons

Maybe they will delete it soon? Might be good if someone can copy it for reference? :sherlock:

[onawah]

Here is the video on youtube:
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Don't know if this has been posted here on this thread yet - a friend just sent it to me today. It's an interview with the creator of the US Bioweapons Act who says he believes this new coronavirus is a bioweapon.

Taken from a website called thevaccinereaction.org. I can't find the video on youtube, though it is imbedded in their website, as I've linked here.

https://thevaccinereaction.org/?s=creator+of+us+bioweapons

Maybe they will delete it soon? Might be good if someone can copy it for reference? :sherlock:

[DeDukshyn]

So apparently the WHO conducted an "exercise" simulating what might happen if a "new" highly contagious virus, let's just say maybe a "coronavirus" outbreak erupted in an animal market area, and quickly began to spread from there ... in October.


I have not been following this thread so maybe it has been discussed here already.


Is this true? Was this an actual WHO "exercise" simulating almost everything exactly that has occurred in this outbreak, but just before this outbreak occurred? I didn't watch the whole video but I though that was odd ... anyone have more info on this? Or a brief summary for me? (or a link to a post if this discussion already exists here?)

The video is here: and appears to have been uploaded to YouTube on Nov 9th ... the parallels are a bit extreme, but again I haven't spent much time on this. There is also an hour long full version of this "exercise" on the WHO YouTube channel ...

At the very least, this was a pretty accurate prediction ... or is it part of a "plan" (perhaps a pre-emptive "see, we were already expecting a transition of coronavirus from animals to humans - so its from animals, not a bioweapon") ... or are we seeing a manifestation of some sort?

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[Delight]

If Iran has such large numbers of infections, does that indicate it is a deployed weapon?

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[Sarah Rainsong]

I swear I saw that the US had 36 maybe 37 cases earlier today... What happened? Did I see that wrong? Even with the recovered cases, it doesn't add up. Chris points out it doesn't add up for him, too, but he didn't say anything about 30-something cases, either.


If Iran has such large numbers of infections, does that indicate it is a deployed weapon?

rnJ2iLZd7HY

[Pam]

Sammy,
About an interview of a "Chinese intelligence officer" (Earlier on it was presented as his report and wherin he assured why he could write in perfect english ;-) )

Bill correctly pointed out in an earlier post that no Chinese intelligence officer would ever write like that .

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336663&viewfull=1#post1336663

I had already wondered how somebody who went through extreme terror and still in great danger could write such a precisely formulated report.

Disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides.

Yes, disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides. That is why I don't believe anything I read (or hear/watch) regarding this virus (and many other subjects of global interest). But also, if the conspiracy theory put forth in the article I posted turned out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised. And I say this based on what I have experienced first hand with regard to this lovely planet as well as all that has been written about, then revised, then revised again and... depending on the source, twisted in all sorts of directions.

Few (if any) are completely immune from the vulnerability to "believe" something that later, turns out not to be true... even some of the more savvy folks that are staff, members or readers of this forum.

If it was a nerve toxin accidently dropped ( how do you accidently drop 21 vials?) in an open market in Wuhan how do you explain the spread to all the other countries? That theory sort of defies common sense.

[Delight]

If Iran has such large numbers of infections, does that indicate it is a deployed weapon?

rnJ2iLZd7HY

I did not research the close relationship between China and Iran before speculating. If Iran has such high numbers, it means at least the infection started some time ago.

Belt & Road Initiative expands China-Iran cooperation
By Li Tianyang | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-01-25 (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201901/25/WS5c4aa81da3106c65c34e6912.html)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERVpAwVUUAAw4sY?format=jpg&name=900x900

[pyrangello]

On zero hedge there's a statement listed in the article that lists new York Times said u.s. had 35 new cases. On that video from Lisa havens she states 7000 in the u.s. under voluntary quarantine. She also state 300of those in Michigan. So thats the first I had heard that number. But yesterday my buddy stopped by and said that he knows a guy that worked at one of the auto plants. A few weeks ago an engineer from China was walking thru the plant and coughing a lot. My buddy said the guy he knows ended up i n the hospital with a bad respitory issue,had to be on a ventilator for a time too. HE made it out of the hospital but sure goes along with the now 300 in Michigan. I cannot confirm or verify this except from my friend. And so it appears the scales are beginning to tip from isolated ,I hope not but none of this looks promising. That one lady who was a pandemic specialist said don't get your hopes up on a vaccine either, she said they never did come up with one from the sars virus and that was in 2008. I know many are still saying it's a bio virus, but we need to remember in those meat markets, they keep animals alive and slit there throats rights there,snakes,bats,koalas,and all those inner parts of all of these species end up in the same drain. Sounds to me like a cocktail from hell. Finally this is not a time to panic but just do what you can to prepare for your own quarantine if need be for you and your family if things get bad. We're all going to weather this storm together it appears , and being able to sound off in the Avalon family from around the world in one location is a very grand comfort.

[ExomatrixTV]

What You Need To Know About THE VIRUS In 2020:
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Explaining what a virus really is in great detail!

John

[Delight]

Thinking about what this may mean to the healthcare professionals in the US, I read that the US keeps a stockpile of medical supplies

Strategic National Stockpile (https://www.phe.gov/about/sns/Pages/default.aspx)

But if this becomes an epidemic, will we have enough staff to treat and beds and equipment. I think not?

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Best to avoid the infection of course. Humidity does decrease aerosolization apparently


This Inexpensive Action Lowers Hospital Infections And Protects Against Flu Season
Leah Binder (https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahbinder/2019/10/17/harvard-researcher-says-this-inexpensive-action-will-lower-hospital-infection-rates-and-protect-us-for-the-flu-season/#6f1449182471)

.....Scientists attribute the influence of dry air to a new understanding about the behavior of airborne particles, or “infectious aerosol transmissions.” They used to assume the microbes in desiccated droplets were dead, but advances in the past several years changed that thinking. “With new genetic analysis tools, we are finding out that most of the microbes are not dead at all. They are simply dormant while waiting for a source of rehydration,” Taylor explained. “Humans are an ideal source of hydration, since we are basically 60% water. When a tiny infectious particle lands on or in a patient, the pathogen rehydrates and begins the infectious cycle all over again.”

These findings are especially important for hospitals and other health settings, because dry air is also associated with antibiotic resistance, which can devastate whole patient populations. Scientists now believe resistant organisms do not develop only along the Darwinian trajectory, where mutated bacteria produce a new generation of similarly mutated offspring that can survive existing antibiotics. Resistant pathogens in infectious aerosols do not need to wait for the next generation, they can instantly share their resistant genes directly through a process called horizontal gene transfer.

According to her research, and subsequent studies in the medical literature, the “sweet spot” for indoor air is between 40% and 60% relative humidity. An instrument called a hygrometer, available for about $10, will measure it. Every hospital, school, and home should have them, according to Taylor, along with a humidifier to adjust room hydration to the sweet spot.

[ExomatrixTV]

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From Bill: John, the Pirbright Institute patent was from an avlan virus, completely unrelated to this one.

:thumbsup:

:focus:

[TommyPicklock]

Hi there,

I think everything the cabal uses is a weapon. Like 5G, Corona, monetary system (collaps), vaccination, health system in general, ... And we can everywhere find their action results in powerty, diseases, death. Time to drain the swamp. High time.
MIP_ciPusMs

The story can be found here:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-21-coronavirus-could-result-in-global-economic-collapse.html

[Bill Ryan]

From https://ntd.com/chinese-authorities-in-coronavirus-epicenter-have-begun-partially-shutting-down-the-internet_437649.html:

Chinese Authorities in Coronavirus Epicenter Have Begun Partially Shutting Down the Internet
February 22, 2020

“The internet connection in my home was cut off for several days. I kept on calling the mayor’s hotline, but nobody is taking care of us,” said a resident of Wuhan City, Hubei Province, where the coronavirus (COVID-19 virus) outbreak began.

Since Feb. 11, more and more Wuhan residents reported that their home internet connections were down. Wuhan authorities have issued strict quarantine measures to contain the outbreak, including allowing only one person per household to leave their homes.

The Chinese-language Epoch Times (CET) spoke with several Wuhan residents and found that some neighborhoods, where there are large numbers of reported COVID-19 virus infections, have had their internet cut off.

Commentators believed that the authorities are using this method to restrict netizens’ ability to talk freely about the situation on the ground.

Since the outbreak in early December 2019, about 70 percent of the officially reported cases of infection are in Wuhan.

No Internet Connection

Several interviewees told (https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/2/11/n11860738.htm) the CET that their residential areas began broadcasting messages via loudspeakers installed on lampposts that their internet connections would be cut off soon, starting from the evening of Feb. 10.

A Wuhan resident who lives on Jiangdi Zhong Rd. in Jianghan district posted on social media that his home internet connection was cut off on the afternoon of Feb. 11. He checked with other neighbors who lived nearby and confirmed that their home internet connections were also cut off.

“Where I am, it’s close to the makeshift hospital at the Wuhan International Expo Center. It looks like everyone in our community lost their internet connection,” the resident complained (https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/2/20/n11881762.htm).

A Wuhan resident who lives in Jiang’an district told (https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/2/20/n11881762.htm) the CET on Feb. 19 that his internet connection has not been restored. He has resorted to using his cell phone to surf the internet.

Zeng Jieming, a U.S.–based Chinese activist, told (https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/2/20/n11881762.htm) the Chinese-language Epoch Times on Feb. 19: “I have two friends who live in Wuhan. One lives in Caidian district, and the other lives in Jiangxia district. Both of them said their internet connections were down … They were told that there were too many rumors online, which [the regime claimed] severely interfered with the outbreak relief efforts.”

According to Zeng’s friends, the outbreak in Caidian and Jiangxia districts is severe. Local authorities are afraid that people will expose the truth about the outbreak to the outside world by posting videos online, they said.

[B]Purpose

Gu He is an observer of internet censorship in China. He told (https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/2/20/n11881762.htm) the Chinese-language Epoch Times that such tactics are par for the course for the Chinese regime (https://www.ntd.com/chinese-regime.htm).

“As early as 2009, the Chinese government cut off the internet in the whole Xinjiang region, [and confined it] to a local area network for 312 days,” Gu said. “It uses this method to control people’s speech.”

The internet blackout in Xinjiang, home to 25 million people—many of whom are Uyghur Muslim minorities—was reported by several human rights groups and media at the time. Chinese authorities acted in July 2009 after a series of violent riots took place in Xinjiang’s capital city Urumqi. The internet was restored in May 2010.

Since Wuhan was locked down on Jan. 23, netizens have begun making social media posts exposing the actual situation on the ground. They are exposing the different symptoms the COVID-19 virus causes. They are showing poor medical conditions in local hospitals, highlighting skyrocketing food prices, showing dead bodies being collected from people’s homes. There are videos of police forcibly sending people to quarantine centers and exposing the poor conditions at those quarantine centers, including lack of food, water, and medical treatment; and people hopeless about their possibility of recovering from the illness attempting to end their lives.

Internet censors have since begun cracking down on such posts (https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-chinese-regime-deploys-1600-internet-trolls-to-suppress-information-on-coronavirus_3242454.html), even deploying a troll army to write positive posts about the authorities’ outbreak-fighting efforts.

[Bill Ryan]

Trump Regime Overruled CDC, Flew Coronavirus-Infected Americans on Plane With Healthy People: Report

https://gizmodo.com/trump-regime-overruled-cdc-flew-coronavirus-infected-a-1841826671

How else can one analyze this but think that they are really trying to infect the US?
This kind of error is so blatant it’s insane!Just a note about this. Gizmodo is very anti-Trump, and seemed to relish labeling the decision that of [I]"the Trump regime".

It was actually a US State Department decision. Trump had no part in it. A Washington Post article from yesterday:

Trump was not told coronavirus-infected Americans would be flown home from cruise ship (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-was-not-told-coronavirus-infected-americans-would-be-flown-home-from-cruise-ship/2020/02/21/ae58b24c-54be-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html)

[Bill Ryan]

This might NOT belong here, possibly more appropriate on one of the US political threads. (Pro or anti-Trump!)

It's a long article, but may be very interesting to those closely watching the US political landscape.

My own brief comment about this: it has to be possible that some US authorities and decision-makers might deliberately exacerbate this situation, precisely to act as a lever to prise Trump from office later this year.

Some of the administrative decisions made have been very hard to understand, and several members here have commented that it's almost as if someone in the US wants this to spread widely.

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https://politico.com/news/2020/02/21/coronavirus-trump-white-house-116650

White House fears coronavirus could shape Trump's 2020 fortunes
21 Feb, 2020

Though Trump in public has downplayed the virus, privately he has voiced his own anxieties.

The Trump administration is bracing for a possible coronavirus outbreak in the United States that could sicken thousands — straining the government's public health response and threatening an economic slowdown in the heat of President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign.

That stark realization has taken hold in high-level White House meetings, during which some administration officials have voiced concerns the coronavirus is already spreading undetected within U.S. borders, two officials told POLITICO.

Though Trump in public has downplayed the virus, privately he has voiced his own anxieties, rebuking public health leaders over last week's decision to fly home 14 Americans who tested positive for the virus while aboard a cruise ship off Japan, said three individuals with knowledge of the situation. Trump was worried that transporting the Americans to the United States without adequate precautions could create new risks, the individuals said.

“The biggest current threat to the president’s reelection is this thing getting out of control and creating a health and economic impact,” said Chris Meekins, a Raymond James financial analyst and former Trump administration HHS emergency-preparedness official.

An HHS spokesperson said the administration is committed to protecting public health and preparing for multiple scenarios due to the novel nature of the virus. "As we’ve said all along, the risk to Americans is low, but we expect the numbers to increase," the spokesperson said, declining to characterize the nature of the discussions.

But there has been tension within the Trump administration over the response so far. Four officials acknowledged that the process has hit bumps, with high-pressure debates over resources and planning occasionally reopening fault lines between the White House and HHS (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/30/trump-azar-coronavirus-109809) that first emerged over Trump's broader health agenda.

Some of the biggest challenges have been within the health department, with the Centers for Disease Control revising its quarantines, opposing the evacuation of the Diamond Princess cruise ship — despite evidence that a quarantine imposed by Japanese authorities had failed and infections were spreading — and raising general questions about the agency’s level of preparedness.

Only 34 cases have been confirmed in the United States, including those brought home from the cruise ship. But the outbreak, now in its third month, has exploded overseas. More than 75,000 cases of the respiratory illness have been confirmed in China and at least 2,200 people have died. Infections are surging in areas outside the epicenter in Hubei Province, spreading rapidly to South Korea, Singapore, Iran and Japan in recent days.

The virus currently has no cure, can be spread by people who have no outward symptoms and appears to pose a significant risk to the elderly. CDC Director Robert Redfield acknowledged last week that officials expect person-to-person transmission in local communities, whether this year or next.

The White House stressed that its inter-agency response team led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar is working “around the clock.”

"President Trump’s top priority is the health and welfare of the American people, which is why he established the President’s Coronavirus Task Force to contain the spread of the virus,” a spokesperson told POLITICO. “Every precaution is being taken as this situation continues to change hourly.”

Meanwhile, the White House remains worried about growing economic risks, with Chinese production plunging in recent weeks and U.S. companies like Apple and Walmart with significant investments in the country reporting they’re taking financial hits (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-apple-walmart-and-other-us-companies-are-saying-about-the-coronavirus-2020-02-18). Senior officials fear that a sustained outbreak could slow global markets and upend a strong U.S. economy that has been central to Trump’s political pitch.

The administration’s fumbled evacuation of about 400 Americans from the marooned cruise ship brought into focus multiple gaps in preparedness, said four individuals with knowledge of the episode.

U.S. officials spent 10 days with little information about conditions aboard the ship, relying on Japanese health department reports rather than dispatching CDC staff. That left U.S. health officials at odds over whether an evacuation was necessary before political pressure intensified (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/14/escaping-the-coronavirus-petri-dish-doctor-lawmakers-seek-evacuations-from-quarantined-cruise-115143). Officials managing the evacuation last Saturday were later surprised to learn, while busing evacuees to a Japanese airfield, that 14 Americans they were transporting were reported to have tested positive for coronavirus. The State Department decided to fly the Americans back over CDC’s objections, the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-diamond-princess-cruise-americans/2020/02/20/b6f54cae-5279-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html) first reported.

Officials continue to second-guess the original, swift decision to leave Americans aboard the ship for days, even as infections multiplied.

“I think that was one of the cruelest human experiments I've seen in my entire career,” said Michael Osterholm, director of University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, who has advised federal health officials on the response. “That was truly one of our public health lesser moments.”

Administration elevates virus fight to top priority

The fate of Trump’s response rests on Azar, who has modeled plans based on his experience fighting SARS and other pandemics as a senior health official in the George W. Bush administration. The health secretary — who is steering the response in addition to his other duties — has been near-constantly flanked by top scientists like CDC’s Redfield and veteran infectious disease specialist Anthony Fauci at White House meetings, congressional briefings and televised updates.

The wide-ranging administration strategy has pulled together disparate offices like the Transportation Department and border patrol to handle the practicalities of travel and homeland security, as well as scientists at the National Institutes for Health, working to devise potential treatments. It’s also drawn in top political officials like Joe Grogan, the White House Domestic Policy Council chief, who was picked for the coronavirus task force amid worries about how the outbreak would affect Trump’s broader agenda.

Azar has frequently leaned on Robert Kadlec, his assistant secretary for emergency and preparedness, whose team played a key role in evacuating the Diamond Princess last week. Kadlec — viewed by Azar as a problem-solver who was tapped to reunify separated migrant families in 2018 — also had prepared national disaster management personnel to handle pandemics by putting them through specialized training to handle infectious disease issues two years ago, said two individuals.

One question that’s been raised at senior meetings is whether the official U.S. count of coronavirus cases is too low, given the virus’ ability to incubate for weeks. POLITICO reported on Thursday (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/cdc-coronavirus-116529) that only three of the nation’s more than 100 public health laboratories had even verified the CDC’s coronavirus diagnostic test for use, further delaying screening efforts.

“[S]ince most people with the virus suffer only a mild illness, dozens and perhaps even hundreds of cases may be circulating undetected,” Luciana Borio, a former National Security Council fellow, and Scott Gottlieb, the former FDA commissioner, argued in a Wall Street Journal op-ed (https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-does-the-u-s-have-so-few-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-11582241112) on Friday, calling for more screening.

Meanwhile, the administration has kept in constant contact with Congress about its response efforts — a sharp departure for an administration that's been in a near constant state of warfare with congressional Democrats, lawmakers and aides said.
Officials including Azar, Redfield and Fauci have provided multiple briefings on their latest findings, in some cases spending more than an hour behind closed doors fielding questions and concerns.

"The administration is fully engaged," Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, the top Republican on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said following a meeting earlier this month. "We're holding our own right now, which is where you want to be."

The administration also has quietly worked with blue states like California and officials in staunchly Democratic cities like New York City.

"The federal government is working closely with state, local, tribal, and territorial partners, as well as health sector partners outside the government, to respond to this public health threat," said the HHS spokesperson.

Cracks emerge as crisis drags on

Still, there are signs that the bipartisan solidarity is beginning to fray.

The White House last week invited several top-level Democrats and Republicans to a West Wing briefing led by acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney,billing it in part as an opportunity to offer critiques of the administration's response. That guest list included the chairs and ranking members of relevant committees, along with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (https://cd.politicopro.com/member/51216) and top House Republican Kevin McCarthy.

But neither Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer nor House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — who have clashed repeatedly and publicly with the president — received an invite, multiple aides confirmed. HHS referred questions to the White House, which declined comment.

Some Democrats, meanwhile, have stepped up their rhetoric against the administration, targeting in particular Trump’s 2018 decision to eliminate the position dedicated to handling global health security threats.

“You’re kind of dealing with a government that doesn’t care about government, and then overlay your normal bumbling incompetence onto the possibility of a global pandemic,” Sen. Brian Schatz of Hawaii said on MSNBC this week. “To the extent that we’ve been fortunate with this disease, it’s because of the epidemiology of the disease, not because of some sort of coordinated response.”

Schatz, along with several other Democrats like Massachusetts Sen. and presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren, have pushed for the appointment of a single National Security Council official to coordinate the administration's efforts.

Others questioned whether the administration is adequately preparing for the potentially disastrous consequences of a months long outbreak, including disrupted drug supply chains, shortages of protective equipment and a growing financial toll on hospitals. During one Capitol Hill briefing, Azar appeared dismissive of questions about the funding outlook for state and local providers, aides said, telling members that the federal government had already given them lots of money in the past.

Pelosi, meanwhile, has made a point to lavish praise on Fauci — a long-time NIH official beloved on both sides of the aisle — telling reporters after one closed-door briefing that she had full confidence in his ability to manage the response.

As for Azar? “All I know about Azar is that he used to work for a pharmaceutical company,” she said.

More substantially, both Republicans and Democrats have been struck by HHS’ refusal to seek additional funding to fight the disease, rather than shifting funds from other parts of the department. The resistance has prompted speculation that Azar is loath to offer any sign the outbreak could worsen on his watch.

“They don’t want to make it a bigger thing,” one senior Democratic aide said. “They squeeze the other coffers dry to cover themselves on coronavirus.”

Meekins — the former HHS official-turned-financial analyst, who this week warned investors the chance of “notable widespread cases” in the United States is 20 percent — said that a significant outbreak this year could overshadow the president’s other initiatives ahead of November.

“This is one of those things where if you prevent a problem, you get very little credit — but the downside is if it goes wrong,” Meekins said.Yet there’s one boon for Trump, amid the growing scrutiny: He doesn’t have to deal with the kind of fearmongering he helped stoke (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/495379061972410369?lang=en) as a private citizen during the 2014-2016 Ebola outbreak in Africa.

Among elected officials, only Republican Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas has publicly suggested the virus could have more questionable, manmade origins than China is willing to let on, though he has emphasized that he has no evidence and merely wants the issue investigated. Administration officials have not ruled out that the virus originated from a lab accident, carefully choosing (https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1229144281597739008) their words when asked directly about the possibility.

"It is important not to speculate and while we do not yet know the source of origin of this virus, we will not jump to any conclusions. We await the scientific evidence," said the HHS spokesperson.

Trump’s deputies in the meantime have urged the president to restrain his public rhetoric. Officials also are working to navigate the delicate relationship with China, already strained by trade battles and other policy clashes, without further antagonizing global partners or overly alarming Americans.

But one specific episode underscores fears that Trump may not be willing to stay silent for long, especially if the virus' spread threatens his political prospects. In a Feb. 7 tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1225728756456808448), Trump asserted that efforts to combat coronavirus "will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone."

He's repeated the claim that the virus will dissipate in April to a group of governors, frustrating health officials inside and outside the administration who worry it could create a false sense of security.

There is little scientific evidence for the theory, heightening concerns that if cases suddenly start to accelerate, that single tweet will undo months of work to assure Americans they're handling the crisis.

“We can’t say that it’s been contained. We lost containment a long time ago,” said Osterholm. “We’re in uncharted territory right now.”

[Chester]

Regarding Politico...

Michael Halliwell, Ph.D Neurology and Psychiatry & Psychology, Duke University (2011)
Answered Sep 12, 2018

They're for anyone in the establishment that will give their corporate overlords what they want. This makes the entity incredibly biased against the various anti-establishment factions in the GOP (Tea Party, Trump Base, Libertarians, ETC…) and even more than that, the progressive wing of the democratic party. They despise Bernie Sanders. They despise Donald Trump. They despise AOC. They despise Ron Paul. They don't like populism. Be it on the right or left. They almost exclusively side with the democratic establishment. Trump is wrong by saying “Fake News". It's Biased. Not fake. Now that's not to say that everyone at politico thinks that way. Or in any news organization for that matter…but they have to follow script or they get tossed aside. It's shameful the idea of a free press has devolved into corrupt public indoctrination.

Comment: When reading any article from high profile "news" organizations (though all "news" should be considered with a grain of salt), I get the most out of an article by understanding "who is behind it" and "what is their likely agenda."

Note the word "fears" in the headline. That is the big red flag right off the bat.

But since the word happens to be there, and considering at this very moment I see two members (one is myself) on this thread and see 34 guests...

[Bill Ryan]

Russia is apparently causing trouble yet again. :)

https://channelnewsasia.com/news/world/russia-linked-disinformation-campaign-fueling-covid-19-alarm-us-12461174

Russia-linked disinformation campaign fueling COVID-19 alarm, US says
22 Feb, 2020

WASHINGTON: Thousands of Russian-linked social media accounts have launched a coordinated effort to spread alarm about the new coronavirus, disrupting global efforts to fight the epidemic, US officials say.

The disinformation campaign promotes unfounded conspiracy theories that the United States is behind the COVID-19 outbreak, in an apparent bid to damage the US image around the world by seizing on health concerns.

State Department officials tasked with combatting Russian disinformation told AFP that false personas are being used on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to advance Russian talking points in multiple languages.

"Russia's intent is to sow discord and undermine US institutions and alliances from within, including through covert and coercive malign influence campaigns," said Philip Reeker, the acting Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasia.

"By spreading disinformation about coronavirus, Russian malign actors are once again choosing to threaten public safety by distracting from the global health response," he said.

The claims that have been circulating in recent weeks include allegations that the virus is a US effort to "wage economic war on China," that it is a biological weapon manufactured by the CIA or part of a Western-led effort "to push anti-China messages".

US individuals including Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, a philanthropist who has spent billions on global health programs, have also been falsely accused of involvement in the virus.

The disinformation campaign was identified by US monitors in mid-January after Chinese officials announced a third death from the new coronavirus in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak.

More than 2,340 people have since died, mostly in China, and the number of cases exceeds 76,000, most are in China.

CLOSE COORDINATION OBSERVED

Several thousand online accounts - previously identified for airing Russian-backed messages on major events such as the war in Syria, the Yellow Vest protests in France and Chile's mass demonstrations - are posting "almost near identical" messages about the novel coronavirus, according to a report prepared for the State Department's Global Engagement Center and seen by AFP.

The accounts - run by humans, not bots - post at similar times in English, Spanish, Italian, German and French and can be linked back to Russian proxies, or carry similar messages to Russian-backed outlets such as RT and Sputnik, it said.

Russian state-funded media started pushing anti-Western messages about the cause of the epidemic on Jan 20, with operators of the social media accounts beginning to post globally the following day, US officials say.

"In this case, we were able to see their full disinformation ecosystem in effect, including state TV, proxy web sites and thousands of false social media personas all pushing the same themes," said Special Envoy Lea Gabrielle, the head of the State Department's Global Engagement Center, which is tasked with tracking and exposing propaganda and disinformation.

During many past news events, the accounts would post actively for up to 72 hours. But messages about the new coronavirus have been uploaded every day over the past month - a sign, US officials said, of Russia's investment in a story unlikely to disappear soon from the headlines.

"In the Russian doctrine of information confrontation, this is classic," said another official from the Global Engagement Center.

"The number of coronavirus cases globally hasn't reached its apex, so the Russian strategy is to very cheaply but very effectively take advantage of the information environment to sow discord between us and China, or for economic purposes."

Experts saw parallels with previous conspiracy theories traced to Moscow, including a KGB disinformation campaign in the 1980s that convinced many around the world that US scientists created the HIV virus that causes AIDS.

US intelligence has also said that Russia interfered through social media manipulation in the 2016 election and seeks to do so again in 2020. The Kremlin has denied the charges and President Donald Trump has scoffed at suggestions of Russian help.

RISKS SEEN IN RESPONSE

Scientists believe the COVID-19 illness originated in late December in Wuhan at a market selling exotic animals for human consumption.

Bats are known carriers of this strain of the coronavirus, whose official name is SARS-CoV-2, but scientists think it spread to humans via another mammal species, possibly pangolins.

The US believes the latest Russian disinformation campaign is making it harder to respond to the epidemic, particularly in Africa and Asia, with some of the public becoming suspicious of the Western response.

The World Health Organization warned Friday that the window to stem the outbreak was narrowing, voicing alarm at a surge of cases with no clear link to China.

A State Department official said that Russian operatives appeared to have been given "carte blanche" to attack the US reputation.

"Whether or not a particular theme is being directed at the highest levels doesn't matter. It's the fact that they have freelance ability to operate in this space to do whatever damage they can, which could have seismic implications."

[Delight]

I think that no matter the physical consequences of covid-19 (and I think it is not a simple flu), it is already chiseling cracks. The military plans something and a federal judge blocks it. The community does not want the people so where will they go?

Judge Blocks Transfer of Coronavirus Patients From Travis AFB to Orange County
February 22, 2020 at 8:31 am (https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/02/22/judge-blocks-transfer-coronavirus-patients-travis-afb-orange-county/)

[Bill Ryan]

I think that no matter the physical consequences of covid-19 (and I think it is not a simple flu), it is already chiseling cracks. The military plans something and a federal judge blocks it.]All over the world, this has been a story of administrative blunders, complacency, acting too late, and/or a lack of co-ordination. The one exception is Singapore, as Chris Martenson applauds.

Singapore is doing ALL the right things, including its very detailed and transparent public announcements. For those who may be unaware, it's a highly advanced little nation in almost every aspect. But even there, the virus is spreading fast. If Singapore can't rein this in, then no-one will be able to.

[spade]

JS just reported a new potential nugget of info that may help in the fight against this plague.

STOP EATING PORK

I have insider info that sounds too crazy to post but there is no choice, it must be said. I'll try to keep it brief:
There is a binary poison that is aerially spread that is a long duration neurotoxin that has pork as one half of the binary. It is extremely potent. If you get even a small whiff and then eat pork, the symptoms are the same as COVID-19. This poison is a super histamine trigger that causes your lungs to fill with phleghm. High doses cause greater symptoms, up to seizures. Once you get nailed by it, (if you survive) it stays in your system strongly for two years and fades out over a decade and if you stop eating pork, it will go inactive. This could be what "coronavirus" in China really is and would explain why people "recover" and then get slammed again.
AT PRESENT, THIS HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KNOW ABOUT.
How hard is it to avoid pork? Not hard at all.
This post was too brief, there's a LOT more detail on this topic but I am worried it will sound "too crazy" to post. I'll say this: What better thing could there possibly be for those who eat Kosher? BONUS: It won't work on Muslims either because they don't eat pork. They're supposed to be the ones taking over, RIGHT? Just listen to the visceral dietribe coming from the "tribe" right now, they want traditional white Western types dead and replaced with third world Muslims. What better way to do it than a binary poison that won't nail Jews or Muslims?

Think about that.

Your lungs will phleghm out and you won't have a fever at all. In some cases you could even be "asymptomatic" and drop dead but usually there's a long period of obvious symptoms.

This has replaced the previous post, I found a better way to say it. I am worried this sounds too crazy, but the poison is DEFINITELY real, and it is VERY potent, a few 2 liter bottles dispersed in a city would do the trick.

I know Chinese intelligence reads this site. And I hope they run tests of this and then take appropriate action. Here are the details:
In mild/moderate poisonings, discontinuation of all pork in the diet will cause symptoms to fade within two weeks. If someone is poisoned with this then eats pork, they go right back to full symptoms. Testing this is how a poisoning can be confirmed.
If this ends up testing out in China, remember what the Bible says about who takes Israel out!

I have not received any notice that this poison was released en masse in China, but it is definitely something to know about and China had damn well better be running tests on people to see what happens, STAT.

My own comment :
In Singapore there's a patient in went into the Critical / Intensive Care Unit who is of Bangladeshi descent - bangladeshis are primarily Muslim, so they don't eat pork either. The 2 claimed deaths in Iran should debunk this theory as well. So let's let it play out a little more, but since I already don't eat pork, I'm more than happy to follow this route of advice.

[Delight]

I think this reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/f7qtdj/prof_dr_clemens_wendtner_immunity_after_ten_days/) is a good one discussing things about various aspects of what we know at the moment clinically. The discussion is more valuable than the article. I would not trust the article....

Started with this article translated form google


Coronavirus: "We saw immunity in all patients"

Clemens Wendtner treats the first corona patients in Germany in Munich. The chief doctor draws a preliminary balance - and cautiously gives hope.

"We saw immunity in all patients"
When you are on the way to Clemens Wendtner, questions come to mind such as: Should you shake his hand? Or prefer to greet from a distance? Wendtner is chief physician for infectious diseases and tropical medicine at the Munich Schwabing Clinic and head of the local unit for highly contagious life-threatening infections. The first patients in Germany who were infected with the new coronavirus were admitted and treated there. Maybe a bit of distance can't hurt? But then Wendtner comes and extends his hand. That’s cleared up.

 How contagious is the corona virus?
A few minutes ago, Wendtner was still wearing a respirator, protective gowns and gloves, a plexiglass visor in front of his eyes, and was examining patients in the infection ward a few doors down. Another patient is allowed to go home today because he no longer excretes viruses. That is cause for joy. But the fact that Wendtner finds time to speak to journalists also shows that the situation has eased somewhat. Time to take stock of what he learned after three weeks with the new virus.

First: "Keep calm." It was not easy in the first few days when droves of people came to the emergency room because they thought they had infected themselves with the pathogen somewhere. There were also reporters who roamed the corridors in search of the isolated patients. The security service had to cordon off areas of the clinic.

 Coronavirus: WHO worries about fast virus transmission - also in Germany
Scientifically speaking, the past few weeks have been very instructive. Wendtner and colleagues were able to show that patients are infectious, even if they only experience mild symptoms. "In addition, we were able to observe that the new coronavirus is not at home in the deep respiratory tract like the related Sars pathogen, but instead can move upstairs in the throat and later change floors," says the doctor. There are also new findings from the Munich hospital on the course of the disease. "About ten days after the onset of symptoms, we saw immunity in all patients," says Wendtner. This time is enough for the body to recognize the intruders, to form antibodies against them and thus to render them harmless.

If the data that Wendtner and his colleagues have collected is not misleading, patients are no longer contagious if fewer than 100,000 virus particles per milliliter can be found in samples from the nose or throat. "From a scientific point of view, patients could be discharged at this stage," says Wendtner. So far, in Germany it has only been allowed to go if you no longer excrete viruses. "After our tests, we are very certain that the patients are no longer infectious at this stage. And of course it made a huge difference for them whether they were discharged after ten days instead of two or three weeks."

Source: https://pressfrom.info/de/lifestyle/gesundheit/-142828-coronavirus-wir-haben-bei-allen-patienten-eine-immunitat- Viewed.html

[Pam]

JS just reported a new potential nugget of info that may help in the fight against this plague.

STOP EATING PORK

I have insider info that sounds too crazy to post but there is no choice, it must be said. I'll try to keep it brief:
There is a binary poison that is aerially spread that is a long duration neurotoxin that has pork as one half of the binary. It is extremely potent. If you get even a small whiff and then eat pork, the symptoms are the same as COVID-19. This poison is a super histamine trigger that causes your lungs to fill with phleghm. High doses cause greater symptoms, up to seizures. Once you get nailed by it, (if you survive) it stays in your system strongly for two years and fades out over a decade and if you stop eating pork, it will go inactive. This could be what "coronavirus" in China really is and would explain why people "recover" and then get slammed again.
AT PRESENT, THIS HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KNOW ABOUT.
How hard is it to avoid pork? Not hard at all.
This post was too brief, there's a LOT more detail on this topic but I am worried it will sound "too crazy" to post. I'll say this: What better thing could there possibly be for those who eat Kosher? BONUS: It won't work on Muslims either because they don't eat pork. They're supposed to be the ones taking over, RIGHT? Just listen to the visceral dietribe coming from the "tribe" right now, they want traditional white Western types dead and replaced with third world Muslims. What better way to do it than a binary poison that won't nail Jews or Muslims?

Think about that.

Your lungs will phleghm out and you won't have a fever at all. In some cases you could even be "asymptomatic" and drop dead but usually there's a long period of obvious symptoms.

This has replaced the previous post, I found a better way to say it. I am worried this sounds too crazy, but the poison is DEFINITELY real, and it is VERY potent, a few 2 liter bottles dispersed in a city would do the trick.

I know Chinese intelligence reads this site. And I hope they run tests of this and then take appropriate action. Here are the details:
In mild/moderate poisonings, discontinuation of all pork in the diet will cause symptoms to fade within two weeks. If someone is poisoned with this then eats pork, they go right back to full symptoms. Testing this is how a poisoning can be confirmed.
If this ends up testing out in China, remember what the Bible says about who takes Israel out!

I have not received any notice that this poison was released en masse in China, but it is definitely something to know about and China had damn well better be running tests on people to see what happens, STAT.

My own comment :
In Singapore there's a patient in went into the Critical / Intensive Care Unit who is of Bangladeshi descent - bangladeshis are primarily Muslim, so they don't eat pork either. The 2 claimed deaths in Iran should debunk this theory as well. So let's let it play out a little more, but since I already don't eat pork, I'm more than happy to follow this route of advice.

If what we are calling a virus is actually a neurotoxin it has no ability to replicate. That means there have to be thousands and thousands of distribution sites where the neurotoxin is released. How does that work where only one person is infected? As far as reacting with pork, well in my book that just doesn't make any sense at all.

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting factoid, which may or may not mean anything whatsoever.

The 2019 Military World Games (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games) were held in Wuhan from 18–27 October, 2019.

9,308 military athletes competed from 110 countries. China headed the medals table, way ahead of Russia, Brazil and France. (But the Chinese orienteering teams, both men and women, were disqualified (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games#Controversies) because they cheated, having been given pre-knowledge of the course.)

The first coronavirus case was contracted in late November, less than a month after the games concluded.

[Chester]

This segment (from last night, February 21, 2020) came across to me an informative update "from an official US government source."

Note that Tom Cotton was the very first to express serious concern about the virus - COVID-19.

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[Did You See Them]

Slightly off topic but has anyone made any conection to the Chinese rocket launch with undisclosed payload and the global 11 text sent out by Samsung 24 or so hours later ?
Also saw you can track your fellow citizens in china by app now so you can monitor carrier people in proximity.

[ExomatrixTV]

UN Troops Featured in World Military Games in Wuhan China Weeks Before Coronavirus Outbreak:
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https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AGF-l7-rVok3MRh8OAmtIVIEeUHjCtNznSKPHdryjA=s88-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkKOQNYoZjaa_8V0uPOueeQ)
Spiro Skouras (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkKOQNYoZjaa_8V0uPOueeQ)

In this report we take a closer look inside the World Military Games opening ceremony held in Wuhan China weeks before the Coronavirus outbreak. Is it just a coincidence that a UN themed pandemic simulation of a global coronavirus outbreak took place the same day, as the UN themed opening ceremonies in Wuhan, ground zero for the outbreak? We also examine which nation will fill the vacuum now that the worlds biggest economy has been crippled by the outbreak.

[thepainterdoug]

Mike Adams the Health Ranger has a sight up and quite up to date and comprehensive . https://pandemic.news
I have always respected his work and involvement in uncovering things as well as practical alternatives to standard medicine.

On personal note, what alarms me is that no one believes anything anymore. I can't get the attention of friends by sharing any of this. They are jaded, burnt out and tired of spin , and agendas . what do we do? the british are coming the british are coming !! , but they remain on the couch, corona beer in hand, pun intended.

so we are now primed and ready. something true real and alarming may be hear, but the boy who cried wolf, cried it too many times.

this is a dangerous climate to be in. divided and unwilling to truly listen to each other

[Eligos]

Mike Adams?

[thepainterdoug]

lol thanks made correction. i had mike rogers hockey player on my mind. thanks Eligos

[syrwong]

I used the WHO figures to make a projection. It suggested that the pandemic will stop at around March 1, with a mortality rate of 5% for Wuhan and 1% for the rest of the world.

Things are gradually returning to normal in China. In some parts shops have already opened for days. Different cities have different measures, but in many cities businesses are allowed to resume in the first week of March. The overall picture is good.

Therefore this is not the Anglo Saxon Mission as described, but more of a psyop to impose greater control over the world populations. The scenario described in the Rocker Fella Foundation report strongly suggests this. Most videos we see maybe productions of some kind. I am not surprised if this is the case, because I have seen how the reality of the HK riots can be twisted by video editing.

[Sophocles]

«Thats my own personal fourth turning moment» (24:11)

Coronavirus Cases Doubling Overnight In Many Countries:

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[ExomatrixTV]

Twitter Announces New Social Credit Score As Coronavirus Spreads Out-Of-Control Globally - FULL SHOW 2/21/2020:

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[Delight]

Twitter Announces New Social Credit Score As Coronavirus Spreads Out-Of-Control Globally - FULL SHOW 2/21/2020:

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Spiro Skouras relates in the above video strangely coincidental events before the outbreak of the viral infection. His gut level intuition is that the government responses to the outbreak are the major concern. He wonders if it is a bioweapon... is there already a vaccine reverse engineered? The events leading up to the outbreak in Wuhan could lend "cover" to release of a bioweapon? Who is the "one" who benefits? It actually looks like the US has much to gain? China is also rolling out their own digital currency. There are so many players and synchronicities leading up to this event. So many threads are wrapping into a skein of global controllers as beneficiaries. Alex Jones says "It's scripted" but we don't know by whom yet.

Here is another interview with Francis Boyle.

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Mike Adams states here what I know has been "discussed" since the end of the 80's. Maybe if we survive the economic collapse, priorities will change. This is so depressing though as it feels like the train bearing down on the parked car with the seat belt stuck and "we know what is coming".


Humanity built a PERFECT society for ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
Humanity has constructed the "perfect storm" societal structure to be taken down by a global pandemic.

And now it has begun. (https://www.brighteon.com/98b7572d-1977-4134-8a97-4ff9d0a24398)

[Agape]

JS just reported a new potential nugget of info that may help in the fight against this plague.

STOP EATING PORK

I have insider info that sounds too crazy to post but there is no choice, it must be said. I'll try to keep it brief:
There is a binary poison that is aerially spread that is a long duration neurotoxin that has pork as one half of the binary. It is extremely potent. If you get even a small whiff and then eat pork, the symptoms are the same as COVID-19. This poison is a super histamine trigger that causes your lungs to fill with phleghm. High doses cause greater symptoms, up to seizures. Once you get nailed by it, (if you survive) it stays in your system strongly for two years and fades out over a decade and if you stop eating pork, it will go inactive. This could be what "coronavirus" in China really is and would explain why people "recover" and then get slammed again.
AT PRESENT, THIS HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KNOW ABOUT.
How hard is it to avoid pork? Not hard at all.
This post was too brief, there's a LOT more detail on this topic but I am worried it will sound "too crazy" to post. I'll say this: What better thing could there possibly be for those who eat Kosher? BONUS: It won't work on Muslims either because they don't eat pork. They're supposed to be the ones taking over, RIGHT? Just listen to the visceral dietribe coming from the "tribe" right now, they want traditional white Western types dead and replaced with third world Muslims. What better way to do it than a binary poison that won't nail Jews or Muslims?

Think about that.

Your lungs will phleghm out and you won't have a fever at all. In some cases you could even be "asymptomatic" and drop dead but usually there's a long period of obvious symptoms.

This has replaced the previous post, I found a better way to say it. I am worried this sounds too crazy, but the poison is DEFINITELY real, and it is VERY potent, a few 2 liter bottles dispersed in a city would do the trick.

I know Chinese intelligence reads this site. And I hope they run tests of this and then take appropriate action. Here are the details:
In mild/moderate poisonings, discontinuation of all pork in the diet will cause symptoms to fade within two weeks. If someone is poisoned with this then eats pork, they go right back to full symptoms. Testing this is how a poisoning can be confirmed.
If this ends up testing out in China, remember what the Bible says about who takes Israel out!

I have not received any notice that this poison was released en masse in China, but it is definitely something to know about and China had damn well better be running tests on people to see what happens, STAT.

My own comment :
In Singapore there's a patient in went into the Critical / Intensive Care Unit who is of Bangladeshi descent - bangladeshis are primarily Muslim, so they don't eat pork either. The 2 claimed deaths in Iran should debunk this theory as well. So let's let it play out a little more, but since I already don't eat pork, I'm more than happy to follow this route of advice.


The very reason for restricting consumption of certain animals in many old cultures were hygienic as well as ethical. Swine genes are known to carry adaptogenic similarity with human DNA sequences, right after rats:)
Pigs have been cultivated by humans for very long time and tweaked to be more “human like” like many other domesticated animals.
At the time of Muhammad they were part of the plaque epidemics chain.

Yes by excessive meat consumption and inadequate physical output excess of amino acids turns neurotoxic to human brain. While trained muscles could potentially benefit by burning the predatory amount of protein intake, shots of hormones and enzymes and so forth, your brain is soft : being flooded with toxins it keeps getting sick.

Moreso, the problem with zoonotic viruses and parasites has been known to most cultures since they ever existed. It’s how eating many kinds of creatures was declared “tabu” depending on the bio-profile of local environs.

Viruses have been here for billions of years. They are not new or created by us. Like every primitive life they “follow the food”. By taking down the weak they loose nothing. The planet can’t be exactly “sterilized”. They can’t be “conquered” by us.

The only way our ancestors found was not “vaccines” but protect and isolate ourselves from animals.

It’s clear this is 21st century and we look at things through eyes of newborns.


The part of human consciousness that keeps “sinning” against its own nature and crossing to the animal realm is ancient though. It’s the same downfall of consciousness responsible for much of the worlds violence and predatory behaviours.
It’s the power of the mass : against the dying great matter of our brains( think all the Alzheimers).

There’s no smarts in breeding clean selves only to eat them.


It’s not an empty philosophy, it’s seeing the current civilization picture as it is, for what it is. It’s been the same since Old Rome :)
It’s literally basking in indulgence and drowning in its own luxury, yet it tolerates slave labour, social injustice and “soft racism”, not to speak of elitism of the top “players” turning it all to “hunger games”.

It’s our minds who need to do the good work now without being destroyed by the anger of the animal world

We are not meant to be lizards eating insects.


Oh humanity so lost on its paths, can’t you get better😢


🙏

[spade]

If what we are calling a virus is actually a neurotoxin it has no ability to replicate. That means there have to be thousands and thousands of distribution sites where the neurotoxin is released. How does that work where only one person is infected? As far as reacting with pork, well in my book that just doesn't make any sense at all.

Prions? They seem to, by the literature, replicate as well. The neurotoxin apparently only happens in interaction with the pork proteins...

The worst part of the new cycle is a 78yr old Italian has died of contracting this virus and complicating his preexisting health issues further.

[Delight]

IF the global agenda is to control, I think it is POSSIBLE that the reverberations from this epicsode (spelling deliberate) may derail that agenda? People may be rudely awakened by the shake down? People with nothing to lose may just stop cooperating? Especially revolting may be the "fake no news" which has been given people for weeks and the "buying and selling" of paper. If this is not a particularly deadly virus (for many?), the economic consequences in a domino very BAD DAY/WEEK?MONTH?YEAR?YEARS (?) seem inevitable? Maybe this is part of an evolution? This is the year we sere told the doors of perception would be cleansed in many ways (2020)


Past Time to Tell the Public: “It Will Probably Go Pandemic, and We Should All Prepare Now”
Posted onFebruary 23, 2020AuthorIan M Mackay, PhD (EIC)2 Comments

by Jody Lanard and Peter M. Sandman (https://virologydownunder.com/past-time-to-tell-the-public-it-will-probably-go-pandemic-and-we-should-all-prepare-now/)

NOTE FROM IAN: The expert risk communication team of Lanard and Sandman has given me permission to post their very well-considered reply to my question of them just on 24 hours ago, here. I’m not an expert in this space so I sought their very experienced thoughts about changing my tone around the COVID-19 multi-country epidemic before I started doing so yesterday. Here is what they had to say…

We are starting to hear from experts and officials who now believe a COVID-19 pandemic is more and more likely. They want to use the “P word,” and also start talking more about what communities and individuals can and should do to prepare. On February 22, Australian virologist Ian Mackay asked us for our thoughts on this phase of COVID-19 risk communication.

Here is our response.

Yes, it is past time to say “pandemic” – and to stop saying “stop”
It’s a good time to think about how to use the “P word” (pandemic) in talking about COVID-19. Or rather, it is past time.

It is important to help people understand that while you think – if you do think so – that this is going to be pandemic in terms of becoming very widespread, no one knows yet how much severe disease there will be around the world over short periods of time. “Will it be a mild, or moderate, or severe pandemic? Too soon to say, but at the moment, there are some tentative signs that….”

The most crucial (and overdue) risk communication task for the next few days is to help people visualize their communities when “keeping it out” – containment – is no longer relevant. The P word is a good way to launch this message.

But the P word alone won’t help the public understand what’s about to change: the end of most quarantines, travel restrictions, contact tracing, and other measures designed to keep “them” from infecting “us,” and the switch to measures like canceling mass events designed to keep us from infecting each other.

We are near-certain that the desperate-sounding last-ditch containment messaging of recent days is contributing to a massive global misperception about the near-term future. The theme of WHO’s and many governments’ messages – that the “window of opportunity” to stop spread of the virus is closing – is like the famous cover page of Nevil Shute’s On the Beach: “There is still time … Brother.”

For weeks we have been trying to get officials to talk early about the main goal of containment: to slow the spread of the virus, not to stop it. And to explain that containment efforts would eventually end. And to help people learn about “after containment.” This risk communication has not happened yet in most places.

So here is one more pitch for openness about containment. Officials: Please read Containment as Signal, Swine Flu Risk Miscommunication, which we wrote in 2009.

One horrible effect of this continued “stop the pandemic” daydream masquerading as a policy goal: It is driving counter-productive and outrage-inducing measures by many countries against travelers from other countries, even their own citizens back from other countries. But possibly more horrible: The messaging is driving resources toward “stopping,” and away from the main potential benefit of containment – slowing the spread of the pandemic and thereby buying a little more time to prepare for what’s coming.

We hope that governments and healthcare institutions are using this time wisely. We know that ordinary citizens are not being asked to do so. In most countries – including our United States and your Australia – ordinary citizens have not been asked to prepare. Instead, they have been led to expect that their governments will keep the virus from their doors.

Take the risk of scaring people
Whenever we introduce the word “pandemic,” it’s important to validate that it’s a scary word – both to experts and to non-experts – because it justifiably contains the implication of something potentially really bad, and definitely really disruptive, for an unknown period of time. This implication is true and unavoidable, even if the overall pattern of disease ends up being mild, like the 2009-10 “swine flu” pandemic.

Validate also that some people may accuse you of fear-mongering. And respond that hiding your strong professional opinion about this pandemic-to-be would be immoral, or not in keeping with your commitment to transparency, or unforgivably unprofessional, or derelict in your duty to warn, or whatever feels truest in your heart.

It may help to consider the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” fallacy. Feel free to say that “Jody Lanard and Peter Sandman say” that officials or experts – in this case YOU – are “darned if you do anddamned if you don’t.” You’re only darned if you warn about something that turns out minor. But you’re damned, and rightly so, if you fail to warn about something that turns out serious.

It’s simply not true, in principle or in practice, that you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t! Over-alarming risk messages are far more forgivable than over-reassuring ones.

Push people to prepare, and guide their prep
This is the most culpable neglected messaging in many countries at this point.

The main readiness stuff we routinely see from official and expert sources is either “DON’T get ready!” (masks), or “Do what we’ve always told you to do!” (hand hygiene and non-mask respiratory etiquette).

The general public, and many categories of civil society, are not actively being recruited to do anything different in the face of COVID-19 approaching.

A fair number of health care workers and communication officers tell us their hospitals and healthcare systems are just barely communicating about COVID-19. They want to be involved in how to prepare for “business not as usual.” We’re guessing that many hospital managements are in fact preparing for COVID-19, but we worry that they’re doing it too quietly, without enough effort to prepare their staff.

Lots of businesses, especially smaller ones, are doing off-the-cuff pre-pandemic planning. Several trade journals have articles about how specific industries should prepare for a likely pandemic. Around February 10, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted interim guidance for businesses. But we have seen almost nothing in mainstream media citing this guidance, or recommending business continuity strategies like urgent cross-training so that core functions won’t be derailed because certain key employees are out sick, for instance.

Pandemic planning research suggests that employees are likeliest to say they will show up for work during a pandemic if three specs are met – if they think their family is reasonably safe; if they think their employer is being candid with them about the situation; and if they have a pandemic-specific job assignment in addition to or different from their routine “peacetime” assignment.

Hardly any officials are telling civil society and the general public how to get ready for this pandemic.

Even officials who say very alarming things about the prospects of a pandemic mostly focus on how their agencies are preparing, not on how the people they misperceive as “audience” should prepare. “Audience” is the wrong frame. We are all stakeholders, and we don’t just want to hear what officials are doing. We want to hear what we can do too.

We want – and need – to hear advice like this:

Try to get a few extra months’ worth of prescription meds, if possible.
Think through now how we will take care of sick family members while trying not to get infected.
Cross-train key staff at work so one person’s absence won’t derail our organization’s ability to function.
Practice touching our faces less. So how about a face-counter app like the step-counters so many of us use?
Replace handshakes with elbow-bumps (the “Ebola handshake”).
Start building harm-reduction habits like pushing elevator buttons with a knuckle instead of a fingertip.
There is so much for people to do, and to practice doing in advance.

Preparedness is emotional too
Suggesting things people can do to prepare for a possible hard time to come doesn’t just get them better prepared logistically. It also helps get them better prepared emotionally. It helps get them through the Oh My God (OMG) moment everyone needs to have, and needs to get through, preferably without being accused of hysteria.

It is better to get through this OMG moment now rather than later.

Offering people a list of preparedness steps to choose among means that those who are worried and feeling helpless can better bear their worry, and those who are beyond worry and deep into denial can better face their worry.

Yet another benefit: The more people who are making preparedness efforts, the more connected to each other they feel. Pandemic preparedness should be a communitarian experience. When a colleague offers you an elbow bump instead of a handshake, your mind goes to those lists of preparedness recommendations you’ve been seeing, and you feel part of a community that’s getting ready together.

This OMG realization that we have termed the “adjustment reaction” (see http://www.psandman.com/col/teachable.htm) is a step that is hard to skip on the way to the new normal. Going through it before a crisis is full-blown is more conducive to resilience, coping, and rational response than going through it mid-crisis. Officials make a mistake when they sugarcoat alarming information, postponing the public’s adjustment reaction in the vain hope that they can avoid it altogether.

Specific pandemic preparedness messages
Below are links to specific preparedness messaging we drafted for a possible H5N1 pandemic. The links are all from our 2007 website column What to Say When a Pandemic Looks Imminent: Messaging for WHO Phases Four and Five. Each item is in two parts – a draft message (a summary sentence followed by a few paragraphs of elaboration), then a risk communication discussion of why we think it’s an appropriate pre-pandemic message. Because these were written with H5N1 in mind, the pandemic they contemplate is more severe and less likely than the one we contemplate today. So some changes may be called for – but frankly, in our judgment, not many.

We may have a window of opportunity now to make some practical preparations. We must make the most of it – even though the effort may be wasted if a severe pandemic doesn’t happen.
What matters most is how households, neighborhoods, community groups, and businesses prepare.
Individual and community preparations will focus on three tasks – reducing each person’s chance of getting sick, helping households with basic survival needs during a pandemic, and minimizing and coping with larger societal disruption.
Social distancing will be important but unpleasant.
School closings present a particularly difficult social distancing dilemma.
Hand-washing is far from a panacea. But it’s easy, it’s under your control, and it has no significant downside.
Like washing your hands, wearing a facemask may help a bit. But it has more downside than washing your hands.
Getting ready for a pandemic is largely about preparing for possible shortages.
It’s probably too late to stockpile much now, but do what you can.
Now is also the time to think about how you will care for loved ones at home.
To get ourselves through the hard times that may be coming, we will need volunteers. How can you help?
One of the scariest messaging failures in the developed world is not telling people vividly about what the end of containment will look like, for instance the end of contact-tracing and most quarantines.

The FAQs on the Singapore Ministry of Health webpage (https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/faqs) can serve as a model that other developed countries can adapt to start talking to their publics about this now, to reduce the shock and anger when governments stop trying to contain all identified cases.

What’s working for us
We’d like to share with you some of our recent everyday life experiences in talking about pandemic preparedness with people who perceive us as a bit knowledgeable about what may be on the horizon. Some of this overlaps with the more generic comments above.

1. We’ve found it useful to tell friends and family to try to get ahead on their medical prescriptions if they can, in case of very predictable supply chain disruptions, and so they won’t have to go out to the pharmacy at a time when there may be long lines of sick people. This helps them in a practical sense, but it also makes them visualize – often for the first time – how a pandemic may impact them in their everyday lives, even if they don’t actually catch COVID-19. It simultaneously gives them a small “Oh my God” moment (an emotional rehearsal about the future) – and something to do about it right away to help them get through the adjustment reaction.

2. We also recommend that people might want to slowly (so no one will accuse them of panic-buying) start to stock up on enough non-perishable food to last their households through several weeks of social distancing at home during an intense wave of transmission in their community. This too seems to get through emotionally, as well as being useful logistically.

3. Three other recommendations that we feel have gone over well with our friends and acquaintances:

a. Suggesting practical organizational things they and their organizations can do to get ready, such as cross-training to mitigate absenteeism.

b. Suggesting that people make plans for childcare when they are sick, or when their child is sick.

4. And the example we like the best, because it gives every single person an immediate action that they can take over and over: Right now, today, start practicing not touching your face when you are out and about! You probably won’t be able to do it perfectly, but you can greatly reduce the frequency of potential self-inoculation. You can even institute a buddy system, where friends and colleagues are asked to remind each other when someone scratches her eyelid or rubs his nose. As we noted earlier, someone should develop a face-touching app – instead of a step-counting app to encourage you to walk more, how about an app to encourage you to auto-inoculate less! And track your progress, and compete with your friends, even!

The last message on our list – to practice and try to form a new habit – has several immediate and longer-term benefits.

Having something genuinely useful to do can bind anxiety or reduce apathy. You feel less helpless and less passive.

And you can see yourself improving.

And you can work on your new habit alone, and also in a pro-social communitarian way. Others can help you do it, and you can help them.

And it yields real harm reduction! It is arguably the endpoint of what washing your hands is for, and it helps when you can’t wash your hands out in the world.

Like all good pandemic preparedness recommendations, it helps you rehearse emotionally, as well as logistically.

The bottom line
Every single official we know is having multiple “Oh my God” moments, as new COVID-19 developments occur and new findings emerge. OMG – there is a fair amount of transmission by infected people with mild or subclinical cases! OMG – there is a high viral load early on in nasal and pharyngeal samples! OMG – the Diamond Princess, how can that have been allowed to happen! And on and on.

Officials help each other through those moments. They go home and tell their families and friends, sharing the OMG sensation. And then what do they tell the public? That they understand that “people are concerned” (as if they themselves weren’t alarmed), but “the risk is low and there’s nothing you need to do now.”

Ian, it sounds like you want to argue on behalf of preparedness. Encouraging all stakeholders to prepare logistically should start now, if not sooner. And you are in a position not just to encourage logistical preparedness, but also to encourage government sources and other experts like yourself to do the same. Perhaps even more important, in our judgment: You can try to encourage emotional preparedness, and try to encourage other official and expert sources to encourage emotional preparedness – guiding people’s OMG adjustment reactions instead of trying to stamp them out.

[Delight]

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Not exactly on topic for Covid-19 but important IMO....

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Not exactly on topic for Covid-19 but important IMO....

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Interesting video Delight.

"The Trump administration is moving to take action against Chinese propaganda in the United States. It is now designating five Chinese state-run outlets as foreign missions of the Chinese Communist Party".

I am deeply pro-China, as a country and a people but I consider its government an increasingly grave threat to our own freedoms and security. Despite its charade of confidence its becoming an increasingly unhinged regime it seems.

If I was a Chinese leader two thoughts would be uppermost. First, the drudgery of finding 18m new jobs a year. Second, maintaining what my ancestors used to call the Mandate of Heaven - that is, the peace and prosperity that shows the approval of the gods. Every so often China falls apart in civil wars of spectacular frightfulness. The horror of all Chinese leaders lest it happen on their watch should not be underestimated.

[ExomatrixTV]

Bill Gates discusses ‘intentionally caused’ virus outbreaks, playing us again (https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2020/02/22/bill-gates-discusses-intentionally-caused-virus-outbreaks-playing-us-again-as-he-and-his-billionaire-friends-predict-a-collapse-of-our-food-supply/) as he and his billionaire friends ‘predict’ a collapse of our food supply.

[TommyPicklock]

A few days ago, I found an interesting article on a possible remedy:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-10-already-identified-three-natural-molecules-that-inhibit-coronavirus-replication.html
But I guess big pharma won't care.

[ExomatrixTV]

The BEST NEWS re CΟRΟNΑ VΙrus you've heard all month! (..kinda)
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Is this truly Viral or is it F.I.V.E.-G? C.H.I.N.A has unleashed 60 Ghz all throughout the country with WU-HAN as the PILOT CITY. Unbelievable comparisons to symptoms 'showing' as a V-Irus compared vs what happens when one is hit with 60GHz waves, and it's impact on the uptake of oxygen via the hemoglobin. This specific frequency is absorbed by oxygen. 60GHz causes the rotation of the electrons around the oxygen molecule to spin, thus inhibiting the ability of hemoglobin to properly uptake these oxygen molecules. What would be the ultimate 'solution' to such a problem as this "V.I.Rus"?

I cannot stress this enough. 5G has never had one test on health effects to life. NOT ONE. This is not opinion, but a FACT. Yet it has been unanimously pushed and deployed anyway. China has unleashed 60 Ghz all through out the country with Wu-han as the PILOT CITY. Many won't know the devastating effects 60 Ghz can do to a person unless you researched it. It is thus not surprising, than so many have fallen over and died in China, Wu-han especially.

cheers.
John


Cara Brooks (https://www.facebook.com/cara.bowman?hc_location=ufi&comment_id=Y29tbWVudDo4Njc5NTQzMDM2Mzk3MjZfODY4MTMxNDE2OTU1MzQ4) [quote]: "It’s all about the 5G & oxygen!!
And why pneumonia w/dry cough is the symptom.
I’ve been pinged in my spirit to start Oxygen therapies last week.. to build immunity with so many sick-now this?!!!
Stanley Plotkins testimonial is highlighted.. along with Mr Blumenthal asking in court about safety study (ZERO)
Corona explanations that keep adding up to some possible truth 🤞

Guess what was released in Wuhan a month before the “outbreak”
Of convulsions and heart attacks left and right..
I was under the assumption that secondary infections caused all the heart attacks, convulsions or puking blood 🤮
but I didn’t understand how somebody could get secondary infections so soon since everybody’s been killing over starting in December.. huge complaints about air quality before the virus took hold ..
It’s all about the oxygen levels 🌬

all sounds a little too coincidental with the rollout of 5G in Wuhan November 😳 and as you’ll see the cruise line just upgraded as well.
Yep, China was the first to roll out 5G and look what happens.
I’m glad they won the race, now pray we pay attention & #Stop5G (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/stop5g?hc_location=ufi&comment_id=Y29tbWVudDo4Njc5NTQzMDM2Mzk3MjZfODY4MTMxNDE2OTU1MzQ4)

[onawah]

:bump: Good candidate for the the Avalon library--thorough and easy to understand. Thanks Exomatrix!

The BEST NEWS re CΟRΟNΑ VΙrus you've heard all month! (..kinda)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtfqUtW_8AA&t=551s
Is this truly Viral or is it F.I.V.E.-G? C.H.I.N.A has unleashed 60 Ghz all throughout the country with WU-HAN as the PILOT CITY. Unbelievable comparisons to symptoms 'showing' as a V-Irus compared vs what happens when one is hit with 60GHz waves, and it's impact on the uptake of oxygen via the hemoglobin. This specific frequency is absorbed by oxygen. 60GHz causes the rotation of the electrons around the oxygen molecule to spin, thus inhibiting the ability of hemoglobin to properly uptake these oxygen molecules. What would be the ultimate 'solution' to such a problem as this "V.I.Rus"?

I cannot stress this enough. 5G has never had one test on health effects to life. NOT ONE. This is not opinion, but a FACT. Yet it has been unanimously pushed and deployed anyway. China has unleashed 60 Ghz all through out the country with Wu-han as the PILOT CITY. Many won't know the devastating effects 60 Ghz can do to a person unless you researched it. It is thus not surprising, than so many have fallen over and died in China, Wu-han especially.

cheers.
John

[frankstien]

A few days ago, I found an interesting article on a possible remedy:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-10-already-identified-three-natural-molecules-that-inhibit-coronavirus-replication.html
But I guess big pharma won't care.

Yes, here's more details -
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/weve-already-identified-three-natural-molecules-that-inhibit-coronavirus-replication-in-the-body-and-they-dont-come-from-big-pharma/

"Should you rush out and start guzzling all these flavonoids? Not exactly. Start with foods and spices that are already well known to be widely consumed. Garlic, leeks and turmeric are all potent spices with well documented chemical constituents that have numerous therapeutic properties. Eating more flaxseed can’t hurt, either."

[Delight]

The BEST NEWS re CΟRΟNΑ VΙrus you've heard all month! (..kinda)
CtfqUtW_8AA
Is this truly Viral or is it F.I.V.E.-G? C.H.I.N.A has unleashed 60 Ghz all throughout the country with WU-HAN as the PILOT CITY. Unbelievable comparisons to symptoms 'showing' as a V-Irus compared vs what happens when one is hit with 60GHz waves, and it's impact on the uptake of oxygen via the hemoglobin. This specific frequency is absorbed by oxygen. 60GHz causes the rotation of the electrons around the oxygen molecule to spin, thus inhibiting the ability of hemoglobin to properly uptake these oxygen molecules. What would be the ultimate 'solution' to such a problem as this "V.I.Rus"?

I cannot stress this enough. 5G has never had one test on health effects to life. NOT ONE. This is not opinion, but a FACT. Yet it has been unanimously pushed and deployed anyway. China has unleashed 60 Ghz all through out the country with Wu-han as the PILOT CITY. Many won't know the devastating effects 60 Ghz can do to a person unless you researched it. It is thus not surprising, than so many have fallen over and died in China, Wu-han especially.

cheers.
John

I agree that 5G is dangerous. It most likely was a deadly roll out. BUT please explain to me the situation in Iran. Has this country also rolled out 5G? There were many links from China to Japan preceding the current numbers of suddenly ill people? I am not challenging your apparent cemented POV about the 5g vs viral issue.

I DON"T KNOW what to think except that so many people are ill and no 5G around. What I really need and also I think others may need, is to understand the OTHER reasons that people have suddenly become severely ill.

In the community at the moment, there is a huge spread between those who seem almost committed to declaring "there is no virus" (Jon Rappaport chiefly comes to mind), there is a deadly virus (Mike Adams comes to mind), and there is a virus but it is "no more important" than the flu.

It serves us to have a clear picture of what we are facing because in addition to the economic impact, IF there is a virus that IS novel and our systems unadapted, people will be less able to withstand the OTHER all ready challenging environmental conditions. MY concern in the US is IF this is a novel virus which causes pneumonia and triggers the body to over react with ARD and septic shock. In the US, we have so many with underlying autoimmune challenges which shows the immune system is poorly functioning.

I agree 5g IS dangerous and must have been an issue but is it THE issue?

[onawah]

I don't think there is any reason to think that 5G is THE issue, but it certainly is a BIG one.
The depopulation agenda is like a hydra--it has many heads, all delivering deadly blows in various ways, and we underestimate its determination at our peril..
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Is this truly Viral or is it F.I.V.E.-G? C.H.I.N.A has unleashed 60 Ghz all throughout the country with WU-HAN as the PILOT CITY. Unbelievable comparisons to symptoms 'showing' as a V-Irus compared vs what happens when one is hit with 60GHz waves, and it's impact on the uptake of oxygen via the hemoglobin. This specific frequency is absorbed by oxygen. 60GHz causes the rotation of the electrons around the oxygen molecule to spin, thus inhibiting the ability of hemoglobin to properly uptake these oxygen molecules. What would be the ultimate 'solution' to such a problem as this "V.I.Rus"?

I cannot stress this enough. 5G has never had one test on health effects to life. NOT ONE. This is not opinion, but a FACT. Yet it has been unanimously pushed and deployed anyway. China has unleashed 60 Ghz all through out the country with Wu-han as the PILOT CITY. Many won't know the devastating effects 60 Ghz can do to a person unless you researched it. It is thus not surprising, than so many have fallen over and died in China, Wu-han especially.

cheers.
John

I agree that 5G is dangerous. It most likely was a deadly roll out. BUT please explain to me the situation in Iran. Has this country also rolled out 5G? There were many links from China to Japan preceding the current numbers of suddenly ill people? I am not challenging your apparent cemented POV about the 5g vs viral issue.

I DON"T KNOW what to think except that so many people are ill and no 5G around. What I really need and also I think others may need, is to understand the OTHER reasons that people have suddenly become severely ill.

In the community at the moment, there is a huge spread between those who seem almost committed to declaring "there is no virus" (Jon Rappaport chiefly comes to mind), there is a deadly virus (Mike Adams comes to mind), and there is a virus but it is "no more important" than the flu.

It serves us to have a clear picture of what we are facing because in addition to the economic impact, IF there is a virus that IS novel and our systems unadapted, people will be less able to withstand the OTHER all ready challenging environmental conditions. MY concern in the US is IF this is a novel virus which causes pneumonia and triggers the body to over react with ARD and septic shock. In the US, we have so many with underlying autoimmune challenges which shows the immune system is poorly functioning.

I agree 5g IS dangerous and must have been an issue but is it THE issue?[/QUOTE]

[Delight]

another POV...


The Time Is Right Now: Why The U.S. Must Act Decisively and Overwhelmingly To Confront The Coronavirus
02/22/2020
QUOTH THE RAVEN RESEARCH (https://quoththeravenresearch.com/2020/02/22/the-time-is-right-now-why-the-u-s-must-act-decisively-and-overwhelmingly-to-confront-the-coronavirus/)

We may now be starting to see the very real consequences of relying on data coming out of China – something I warned against in a February 2 article I wrote urging people to consider focusing on data outside of China instead of what the Chinese government was telling us.

My reasoning for this was my personal opinion after years of working with Chinese nationals, investigating US listed China-based companies and having a feel for the optics of the Chinese government. I concluded that China may not be giving us reliable data, in favor of trying to create the appearance of a situation that isn’t as dire as it truly is.

But now, as more data is being released from countries like South Korea – which saw an exponential rise in cases over the last 72 hours – it is becoming apparent that the World Health Organization, the CDC and many other international governments may have underestimated how big of an issue this virus is going to be. For example, the Washington Post reported just moments ago that the incubation period for the virus could now be longer than 14 days, which was previously the highest estimate in a range of estimates we were relying on. Additionally, cases are being reported in major cities, like Milan, which has a population of 1.8 million people. We’re also hearing that patients that have been reported as “cured” are showing up re-infected again.

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Chart source: Zerohedge

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Whether China has gamed the numbers or not – and whether, if they have, they’ve done it inadvertently or on purpose, is now moot. It was clear to me weeks ago that the response China was taking was not congruent with the numbers it was recording, as I talked about on my February 8 podcast . The mainstream media is finally catching on, with even major publications like the NY Post now saying “Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab”.

Even the Chinese state media, The Global Times, finally admitted this weekend that the virus may not have originated from the Wuhan Seafood Market, stating: “A new study by Chinese researchers indicates the novel coronavirus may have begun human-to-human transmission in late November from a place other than the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan. The study published on ChinaXiv, a Chinese open repository for scientific researchers, reveals the new coronavirus was introduced to the seafood market from another location, and then spread rapidly from market to market. The findings were the result of analyses of genome-wide data, sources of infection and the route of spread of 93 samples of the novel coronavirus collected from 12 countries across four continents. The study believes that patient zero transmitted the virus to workers or sellers at the Huanan seafood market. The crowded market facilitated the further transmission of the virus to buyers, which caused a wider spread in early December 2019.”

Furthermore, China has now changed the parameters it uses to report virus infections three times, leading to an even greater air of confusion surrounding their data.

Additionally, and even more worrying to me, communist party mouthpieces like Hu Xijin, Editor-in-Chief at The Global Times, who stupidly and potentially nefariously suggested just days ago that Americans should begin traveling back to China again…



…are now starting to try and shift the narrative to blame the rest of the world for underestimating the virus, instead of China.



But, again, blame for the issue can be dealt with later – it is the response in the United States that is the most important thing now.

The U.S. CDC seems to be wising up slightly, but there needs to be a sense of serious urgency at the Federal level in the United States to make sure that the country is adequately equipped to test for and treat this virus before it arrives here en masse – assuming it hasn’t already. The CDC has now said it is preparing for the virus to become a pandemic. Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases said on Friday: “We’re not seeing community spread here in the United States, yet, but it’s very possible, even likely, that it may eventually happen. Our goal continues to be slowing the introduction of the virus into the U.S. This buys us more time to prepare communities for more cases and possibly sustained spread.”

Even more worrying are reports that came out over the last 24 hours that only 3 U.S. states are prepared to test for coronavirus. This means that many people with flu or pneumonia symptoms already may already be transmitting the virus inside the US.

Furthermore, we continue to hear horror stories like people who were tested to be negative being released from quarantine, and then later being found to have the virus. We have even heard of people being released from quarantine before they were even tested for the virus. Who knows how many people they have been in touch with. We must also consider situations like students who returned back to the U.S., from China, after the Christmas holiday, who may pose another significant threat. Air travel was allowed to continue for weeks after the virus was first discovered, which may have already been weeks before its “patient zero” started spreading it.


Chart source: @Jodigraphics15
The origins of the virus are no longer important. Playing the blame game at this point is too little, too late and, as the CDC noted late last week, the window for the U.S. to confront this virus is rapidly closing. Instead, focus should be turning to preparation – on a personal level, municipal level, state level and federal level.

We have to confront this problem in the United States before it confronts us. This country spends hundreds of billions of dollars in defense spending for conventional style attacks and we need to immediately allocate federal resources toward confronting the issue of this virus before it starts to spread the way that it has in South Korea, Italy and Iran. If this were a conventional military attack, President Trump’s response would have already been decisive – but I fear because this is a different type of threat, the Government may be dragging its heels at the most crucial of times.

I am not even addressing the potential financial impact of this virus. The first cases in major U.S. cities will grind the U.S. economy to a halt and there’s going to be nothing the Federal Reserve can do to save it. That is another article for another day – most of my readers already know how I feel about it. Today’s point is far more important than the economy – it’s a matter that I believe could soon be “life and death”.

Weeks ago, I was labeled a fear monger and a conspiracy theorist for merely suggesting that people may want to take some type of precaution and be skeptical of China’s numbers. Now, those suggestions are looking closer to what the government may be ready to acknowledge as reality. It is with the same prescience that I am today suggesting that the government act swiftly and extraordinarily decisively to respond to this virus right now, by preparing the healthcare system and citizens of this country, before it gets out of control.

I urge our leaders to act in a bipartisan way – and I would urge my readers to forward them this article and suggest they do the same – for benefit of our families and our country, both of which we love.

[Sarah Rainsong]

Yesterday, I was able to talk to a dad who is a pilot for a major airline (I've known this man for several years now). He works out of the Atlanta airport and is gone from home for days to weeks at a time. This past week he flew from Toronto to Atlanta. As they approached Atlanta, he got a message saying that a passenger needed to be allowed to disembark before anyone else because the CDC was waiting for them at the terminal because that person had COVID-19. Neither the pilot nor anyone else on the plane had any idea that an infected person was on the plane. I don't know if the airline knew about this in advance and did not share it with anyone, not even the pilot (which was what he seemed to think was going on) or if the CDC tracked down that individual and located him/her mid-flight.

In GA, they are "monitoring" over 200 cases. In Michigan, it's >7000??? This stuff hits the news briefly (enough to get people in those areas to notice!) but nothing is listed on the CDC website. In FL, they're refusing to even say!

The US can't test people because they don't have enough test kits... because they handed out a bunch of faulty tests! Not just here, but to 30 other countries, too.

People are being given contradictory information. Shut down cities (schools, public places, etc.). But don't worry. Don't panic. Nothing to see here.

It seems that Italy really has gotten a lot people's attention. I'm hearing from parents who are sharing information among themselves--pretty similar to what we've shared here minus the conspiracy theories--because they can't just listen to the news. The news isn't giving them accurate information.

They're sharing home remedies and even how to make homemade masks! People who normally don't do these kind of things are stocking up. Those that already tend to stock up are doing more.

Fourth Turning, indeed.

[Baby Steps]

a passenger needed to be allowed to disembark before anyone else because the CDC was waiting for them at the terminal because that person had COVID-19


Fourth Turning, indeed.

As the CDC are sure to know, sharing a plane with a lung affecting virus shedder is one of the most efficient ways to infect others. It is hard to deny the possibility that this could be deliberate. Is it time to recognise that this bug, with a reported 4.9% mortality in Wuhan (which could be a premature guide to the eventual figure which will be established in time) is now out of control, and in the absence of a people power driven campaign for more radical travel restrictions, the spread will continue?

Is it time to recognise that we cannot trust the state to do the right thing- due to complacency bordering on complicity?

[happyuk]

I fully appreciate this is a very scary event for many people. But I just don't see this as being something as being something that so profoundly changes the course of history.

China has taken a big economic hit and people are definitely re-thinking the supply chain - but they were already anyway. If anything this is going to accelerate the process of re-localising all production over various parts of the world instead of having all the supply chains end in China. It may be a much more serious event for China than the whole of the world economy.

I think there are a series of things hovering in the background that will slowly bubble to the surface that could be a much more bigger deal. All this emphasis recently on environmental sustainability I think is going to result in many more investigations into supply chains, production processes etc and I suspect we still have a lot of global corporations that have not (maybe?) prepared in full when what happens when people start to understand what environmental damage is caused for example by the phone in your pocket. That is definitely an issue for the tech sector operating in the hardware space.

We are so used to seeing tech as being all software, but people are asking where has all this material come from? What were the conditions under which this material was gathered? This is not the same environmental issue most people are looking at just another angle. It's how you manage the tech hardware. If supply chains are going to move away from China and we are going to be produce much more in the west, we are going to have to think about how are we going to produce this in the west.

[Delight]

a passenger needed to be allowed to disembark before anyone else because the CDC was waiting for them at the terminal because that person had COVID-19


Fourth Turning, indeed.

As the CDC are sure to know, sharing a plane with a lung affecting virus shedder is one of the most efficient ways to infect others. It is hard to deny the possibility that this could be deliberate. Is it time to recognise that this bug, with a reported 4.9% mortality in Wuhan (which could be a premature guide to the eventual figure which will be established in time) is now out of control, and in the absence of a people power driven campaign for more radical travel restrictions, the spread will continue?

Is it time to recognise that we cannot trust the state to do the right thing- due to complacency bordering on complicity?

No, I never trust the "standard of (whatever)" because at the very least it will be "middle of the road" inadequate and at the worst craven in its loyalty to a "boss" and its disregard for value. I feel torn because I do not want this to be a real wolf and yet this lOOks like it has big teeth.

I am going to keep cataloging remediation


https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/f4g1gy/chinese_scientists_have_been_working_on_methods/fht05lj?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

"Vitamin D3 exerts inhibitory effects on pro-inflammatory cytokines while simultaneously increasing certain anti-inflammatory cytokines, thus reducing inflammation and making cytokine storm less likely.

In summary: vitamin D3 suplementation (or extra UVB sunlight) appears to reduce the chance of a cytokine storm."

" This study discusses the link between vitamin D status and UVB in the 1918-1919 flu pandemic in the US. It notes that "Vitamin D also reduces the production of proinflammatory cytokines, which could also explain some of the benefit of vitamin D since H1N1 infection gives rise to a cytokine storm". The study notes that "The lowest case-fatality rates occurred in the area with the highest solar UVB irradiance and lowest latitude, San Antonio TX, while the highest rates were in New London CT, which had the lowest UVB irradiance and highest latitude."

Also note that the old recommended levels of vitamin D were a mistake- (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28768407)

[Delight]

I fully appreciate this is a very scary event for many people. But I just don't see this as being something as being something that so profoundly changes the course of history.

China has taken a big economic hit and people are definitely re-thinking the supply chain - but they were already anyway. If anything this is going to accelerate the process of re-localising all production over various parts of the world instead of having all the supply chains end in China. It may be a much more serious event for China than the whole of the world economy.

I think there are a series of things hovering in the background that will slowly bubble to the surface that could be a much more bigger deal. All this emphasis recently on environmental sustainability I think is going to result in many more investigations into supply chains, production processes etc and I suspect we still have a lot of global corporations that have not (maybe?) prepared in full when what happens when people start to understand what environmental damage is caused for example by the phone in your pocket. That is definitely an issue for the tech sector operating in the hardware space.

We are so used to seeing tech as being all software, but people are asking where has all this material come from? What were the conditions under which this material was gathered? This is not the same environmental issue most people are looking at just another angle. It's how you manage the tech hardware. If supply chains are going to move away from China and we are going to be produce much more in the west, we are going to have to think about how are we going to produce this in the west.

My deepest hope is that this will make us all rethink our relationship to "stuff". I love the idea of local dairies and reusable milk bottles, of local farmers and local woodworking. I love beautiful things crafted to be used for years. I love clothes that are well made and meant to last because the fashion is of timeless utility. I love the POSSIBILITY that the good coming out of China will be the end of the CCP.

I love the idea of using our relationship with nature to create symbiosis. MAYBE all the poisons are being manufactured in China and just won't be available. One can dream of the good and prepare to fight if needed for the truth. We are intelligent and we are able to change. The freedom of beings (not just humans) and life is what is valuable IMO as a yardstick?

[ExomatrixTV]

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Like if we all living in a horror movie. :(:silent::tsk::pout::unsure:
If it is a "doctored" fake video, that would be a really dark Soul to do that.


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[kfm27917]

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
It does seem farfetched, doesn’t it?

That the United States will risk World War III, using nuclear weapons, by launching a coronavirus inside China during the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations? But that is exactly the scenario that I fear has occurred.

Here we discuss this horror.

If this is the actual case, and it is actually intentionally engineered and used against China, it means that the USA is flirting with global nuclear annihilation. This is nothing that should be treated lightly.

Maybe not so far-fetched. When you get into the details…

Introduction
Many in the know, believe America has two options when it comes to winning a world war against China and Russia. Also, what most agree on is the fact that America cannot win a conventional war against either power, or both.

- Can America Win World War III? A Critical Analysis
Officially called the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), [renamed to COVID-19 for some odd reason] the contagion is a respiratory illness, a new type of viral pneumonia, in the same family of infections as SARS and MERS.

It highly contagious. It’s of a factor many, many time contageous than any other known virus.

High Contagiousness

Indeed, if we compare how SARS spread out in 2002-2003, it is hard not to notice how much more contagious nCoV-2019 is compared to SARS.

It took SARS three months to reach to the point of 300 cases between November 2002 and February 2003. In the climax of SARS, the daily number of newly registered cases in Mainland China never exceeded 200 cases.

In comparison, on 28th January 2020 alone, 1459 new cases of nCoV-2019 were reported nationwide, including 315 cases in Wuhan. In just a week between 20-28 January, the number of patients with nCoV-2019 exceeded the number of all SARS patients confirmed in Mainland China between 2002-2004!

Mainland China had just 5327 cases of SARS, but nCoV-2019 already had 5974 registered cases by the end of January 28th, 2020.

- Coronavirus: Summary to date & insights
Taken alone, it’s just “another” viral agent. Only this time it’s much stronger. However, taken in context with other events, other systems, and other considerations it points to some very serious conclusions; conclusions that are far too hard to ignore.

Everything seemingly points to biowarfare being waged against China.

Crazy! Right?

No nation would be so crazy, so stupid, so insane, so evil… as to launch a very deadly WMD inside a nuclear-armed world power on their most important holiday. Right?

Who would be interested in doing this?

This Is How to Stop China from Dominating the South China
What Happens After China Surpasses the U.S. Economy
US law enforcers should stop China’s influence
It’s too late to stop China’s rise, so the West must start …
How to Stop China in the South China Sea | Foreign Affairs
How To Stop China’s Rise
The calls for drastic and immediate action against China are all over the major American neocon publications. Just because you (personally) are not aware of them, does not mean that they do not exist. These neocons are foaming at the mouth for a fight.

Who are they?

The culprits are the dominant Western Powers. Which pretty much is America and it’s allies (namely Britain). The objective is to put “stress” on China in a combined effort to contain her growing power and influence.

It seems so far-fetched.

No one would be that crazy, that evil, that insane to want to hurt a successful nation full of hard-working and family loving people. No one, unless…

…they are ideologically motivated.

Negotiation is not a policy. It's a technique. It's something you use when it's to your advantage, and something that you don't use when it's not to your advantage.

-John Bolton
During the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations and mass-migration, a very dangerous and lethal virus exploded all over the nation.
During the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations and mass-migration, a very dangerous and lethal virus exploded all over the nation. [renamed to COVID-19 for some odd reason]
This should not be a trivial concern.

To accuse the United States of doing so is not to be done lightly.

All that is presented herein is, of course, speculative. I sincerely wish, hope and desire that it is not the case at all.

Wuhan virus in 2020.
Wuhan virus in 2020. [renamed to COVID-19 for some odd reason]
As it is pretty much a yearly event to have some type of flu or viral outbreak in China. The Chinese government is well-equipped to deal with these outbreaks.

But this time, it’s really… really different.

Mysterious pneumonia outbreak sickens dozens in China …
China flu outbreak: Mystery Pneumonia illness symptoms …
Is China Ground Zero for a Future Pandemic?
However, what is different THIS TIME is that the virus is [1] new (not a strain of an existing virus), [2] extremely aggressive, [3] launched during the yearly Chinese migration, and [4] comes at the heels of a wide spectrum of American instigated attacks on China during the “Trump Trade Wars”.

Swine flu was propagated by drones
As strange was it seems, the complete collapse of the pig farm industry in China in 2019 was propagated by drones. This is why so many isolated pig farms became infected. “Criminal elements” were using drones to spray the pigs with flu to devastate the pork industry.

“Criminal Elements”.

This is the Swine-flu pandemic in 2019.

Chinese Farmers: Criminals Are Using Drones to Infect Our Pigs
Commercial pig farm in China jams drone signal to combat …
Pig Farm In Trouble for Defenses Against Swine Fever …
Chinese gangsters use drones to spread African swine fever …
Have you ever heard of this?

The idea that drones would spread a virus was intriguing.

Who designed and modified the drones?
Who manufactured and modified them so professionally?
How were the drones in the South of China, equal to those in the West, North and East?
How can the pig farmers get a hold of the same viral agent?
Meanwhile the Western media isn’t reporting on the drone use to decimate the pork industry.
It’s using technology to destroy an entire national industry. And it’s blamed on “criminal gangs”. I know that gangs are powerful, but why would they ever want to destroy a national resource?

That is like Tony Soprano conspiring to sink every container ship in every port in the United States. It does not add up.

Tony Soprano
Tony Soprano
Trump trade war went “hot”
For some reason, ever since the “Trump trade war”, China has been hit with unusually dangerous and lethal germs, viral agents, and illnesses that has attacked livestock and people.

Asian Lineage Avian Influenza A(H7N9) Virus
China’s African swine fever outbreak is unprecedented
Unusual virus strains cause flu outbreak in China
The Chinese chicken industry was almost wiped out in 2018 by the bird flu virus.
The Chinese chicken industry was almost wiped out in 2018 by the bird flu virus.
You do not need to believe me.

(and more.....)

https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

[Hughe]

Medical doctors and health experts had advised to Korean government that "We need to block Chinese residents coming to Korea." But Korean government ignored. It's already too late. Community outbreak of COVID-19 has exploding, number of patients increase over 100 per day across the whole country. South Korea is turning into a little China.

Majority of Korean citizen still worships the government hoping the government will save them. The city I live has around 1.5 million residents. There are probably less than few hundred ICUs in big hospitals. Many Koreans have pride of excellent public health (SICK) care system. I think 20 to 30 percent of Korean population is sick always, which is the carefully engineered result. How will the COVID-19 pandemic transpire? I'm uncertain.

https://news.v.daum.net/v/20200223210354700

Customers is in line to buy disposable masks. (I have a pair of fabric masks though)
https://t1.daumcdn.net/news/202002/23/hankooki/20200223210355549yrnq.jpg

They are transferring patients from a lockdown hospital to another one.
https://t1.daumcdn.net/news/202002/23/hankooki/20200223210356743kcjh.jpg

[ExomatrixTV]

Why did a Chinese University hire Charles Lieber to do Battery Research (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/why-did-chinese-university-hire-charles-lieber-do-battery-research)?



This guy did a lot more than battery research: He did research on nanotechnology that can unfurl around nerves and neurons, and tap into their signaling: You'd almost think he was trying to create the Borg.

An injection could contain nanotech of this nature. It wouldn't be easy to remove from the body as it'd have to cross the blood brain barrier.

[RogeRio]

News Update (purposes of)

Iran reports highest coronavirus death toll outside of China (https://www.france24.com/en/20200223-iran-reports-highest-coronavirus-death-toll-outside-of-china)

Iran’s health ministry raised Sunday the death toll from the new virus to 8 people in the Middle Eastern country, amid concerns that clusters there, as well as in Italy and South Korea, could signal a serious new stage in its global spread.
..
(detail)
Saudi Arabia has ordered anyone traveling from Iran to wait at least 14 days before entering the kingdom as it seeks to prevent the spread of the virus to the Muslim pilgrimage sites of Mecca and Medina.

Italy - 111 people have tested positive for the respiratory illness (https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/23/coronavirus-updates-10-italian-communities-lockdown-death-toll-rises-china-n1141321)

South Korea - has spiraled to 602 confirmed infections and six deaths (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/23/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html)

--edit--
nbcnews updates - feb 24 / 02:34 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-updates-5-dead-200-infected-italy-europe-braces-covid-n1141466)

China - number of deaths nears 2,600, confirmed cases to 77,150

Iran - deaths spike to 12 in Iran, 47 cases confirmed

Italy - total 5 deaths, cases across the country to 219. Lombardy recorded 167

South Korea - total number there to 763.

[ExomatrixTV]

Proof the Coronavirus is a Bioweapon? (https://aim4truth.org/2020/01/28/proof-coronavirus-is-a-bioweapon/) Created by DARPA, Bill Gates, Defra, Wellcome Trust (UK) and European Commission (EU)

[Delight]

News Update (purposes of)

Iran reports highest coronavirus death toll outside of China (https://www.france24.com/en/20200223-iran-reports-highest-coronavirus-death-toll-outside-of-china)

Iran’s health ministry raised Sunday the death toll from the new virus to 8 people in the Middle Eastern country, amid concerns that clusters there, as well as in Italy and South Korea, could signal a serious new stage in its global spread.
..
(detail)
Saudi Arabia has ordered anyone traveling from Iran to wait at least 14 days before entering the kingdom as it seeks to prevent the spread of the virus to the Muslim pilgrimage sites of Mecca and Medina.

Italy - 111 people have tested positive for the respiratory illness (https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/23/coronavirus-updates-10-italian-communities-lockdown-death-toll-rises-china-n1141321)

South Korea - has spiraled to 602 confirmed infections and six deaths (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/23/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html)

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[Delight]

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) an engineered biological attack on China by America for geopolitical advantage?
It does seem farfetched, doesn’t it?

That the United States will risk World War III, using nuclear weapons, by launching a coronavirus inside China during the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations? But that is exactly the scenario that I fear has occurred.

Here we discuss this horror.

If this is the actual case, and it is actually intentionally engineered and used against China, it means that the USA is flirting with global nuclear annihilation. This is nothing that should be treated lightly.

Maybe not so far-fetched. When you get into the details…

Introduction
Many in the know, believe America has two options when it comes to winning a world war against China and Russia. Also, what most agree on is the fact that America cannot win a conventional war against either power, or both.

- Can America Win World War III? A Critical Analysis
Officially called the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), [renamed to COVID-19 for some odd reason] the contagion is a respiratory illness, a new type of viral pneumonia, in the same family of infections as SARS and MERS.

It highly contagious. It’s of a factor many, many time contageous than any other known virus.

High Contagiousness

Indeed, if we compare how SARS spread out in 2002-2003, it is hard not to notice how much more contagious nCoV-2019 is compared to SARS.

It took SARS three months to reach to the point of 300 cases between November 2002 and February 2003. In the climax of SARS, the daily number of newly registered cases in Mainland China never exceeded 200 cases.

In comparison, on 28th January 2020 alone, 1459 new cases of nCoV-2019 were reported nationwide, including 315 cases in Wuhan. In just a week between 20-28 January, the number of patients with nCoV-2019 exceeded the number of all SARS patients confirmed in Mainland China between 2002-2004!

Mainland China had just 5327 cases of SARS, but nCoV-2019 already had 5974 registered cases by the end of January 28th, 2020.

- Coronavirus: Summary to date & insights
Taken alone, it’s just “another” viral agent. Only this time it’s much stronger. However, taken in context with other events, other systems, and other considerations it points to some very serious conclusions; conclusions that are far too hard to ignore.

Everything seemingly points to biowarfare being waged against China.

Crazy! Right?

No nation would be so crazy, so stupid, so insane, so evil… as to launch a very deadly WMD inside a nuclear-armed world power on their most important holiday. Right?

Who would be interested in doing this?

This Is How to Stop China from Dominating the South China
What Happens After China Surpasses the U.S. Economy
US law enforcers should stop China’s influence
It’s too late to stop China’s rise, so the West must start …
How to Stop China in the South China Sea | Foreign Affairs
How To Stop China’s Rise
The calls for drastic and immediate action against China are all over the major American neocon publications. Just because you (personally) are not aware of them, does not mean that they do not exist. These neocons are foaming at the mouth for a fight.

Who are they?

The culprits are the dominant Western Powers. Which pretty much is America and it’s allies (namely Britain). The objective is to put “stress” on China in a combined effort to contain her growing power and influence.

It seems so far-fetched.

No one would be that crazy, that evil, that insane to want to hurt a successful nation full of hard-working and family loving people. No one, unless…

…they are ideologically motivated.

Negotiation is not a policy. It's a technique. It's something you use when it's to your advantage, and something that you don't use when it's not to your advantage.

-John Bolton
During the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations and mass-migration, a very dangerous and lethal virus exploded all over the nation.
During the 2020 Chinese New Year celebrations and mass-migration, a very dangerous and lethal virus exploded all over the nation. [renamed to COVID-19 for some odd reason]
This should not be a trivial concern.

To accuse the United States of doing so is not to be done lightly.

All that is presented herein is, of course, speculative. I sincerely wish, hope and desire that it is not the case at all.

Wuhan virus in 2020.
Wuhan virus in 2020. [renamed to COVID-19 for some odd reason]
As it is pretty much a yearly event to have some type of flu or viral outbreak in China. The Chinese government is well-equipped to deal with these outbreaks.

But this time, it’s really… really different.

Mysterious pneumonia outbreak sickens dozens in China …
China flu outbreak: Mystery Pneumonia illness symptoms …
Is China Ground Zero for a Future Pandemic?
However, what is different THIS TIME is that the virus is [1] new (not a strain of an existing virus), [2] extremely aggressive, [3] launched during the yearly Chinese migration, and [4] comes at the heels of a wide spectrum of American instigated attacks on China during the “Trump Trade Wars”.


I don't know if the US released the virus or someone else or it was accidental?

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I am following the economic fall out.....

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[onevoice]

A few days ago, I found an interesting article on a possible remedy:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-10-already-identified-three-natural-molecules-that-inhibit-coronavirus-replication.html
But I guess big pharma won't care.

Yes, here's more details -
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/weve-already-identified-three-natural-molecules-that-inhibit-coronavirus-replication-in-the-body-and-they-dont-come-from-big-pharma/

"Should you rush out and start guzzling all these flavonoids? Not exactly. Start with foods and spices that are already well known to be widely consumed. Garlic, leeks and turmeric are all potent spices with well documented chemical constituents that have numerous therapeutic properties. Eating more flaxseed can’t hurt, either."

Actually taking flaxseed has the side effect of reducing the level of testosterone. The reason for this is that according to this article (https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods-that-lower-testosterone):


Flaxseed is packed with heart-healthy fats, fiber and various important vitamins and minerals.

In addition, some research shows that it may cause a decrease in testosterone levels.

This is because flaxseed is high in lignans, which are plant compounds that bind to testosterone and force it to be excreted from your body (15Trusted Source, 16Trusted Source).

What’s more, flaxseed is rich in omega-3 fatty acids, which may be linked to a decrease in testosterone as well (17Trusted Source).

In one small study in 25 men with prostate cancer, supplementing with flaxseed and decreasing overall fat intake was shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels (18Trusted Source).

Similarly, a case study reported daily flaxseed supplements decreased testosterone levels in a 31-year-old woman with polycystic ovary syndrome, a condition characterized by increased male hormones in women (16Trusted Source).

However, more large-scale studies are needed to further evaluate the effects of flaxseed on testosterone levels.

Although lignans may decrease the testosterone level, it can reduce risk for prostate cancer:



In a small study including 15 men, those given 30 grams of flax seeds a day while following a low-fat diet showed reduced levels of a prostate cancer marker, suggesting a lower risk of prostate cancer (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15134976).


So for men, it's better to take chia seeds rather than flaxseed (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/ask-a-health-expert/are-flaxseed-or-chia-seeds-better-for-me/article4371817/):


Like flax, chia seeds are also a good source of ALA and fibre; in fact, they contain a little more of each per serving. They're also rich in antioxidants and minerals. Unlike flax, chia seeds do not have to be ground to make their nutrients available to the body. Chia seeds don't, however, contain lignans like flaxseed does.


As the previous reference pointed out, you don't have to grind chia seeds like you do for flaxseeds. If you do want to take flax seeds, the best way to take flax seeds is to grind it fresh (eg with a coffee grinder), as normal oxidation process reduces the effectiveness of the nutrition in flaxseeds quickly. Chia seeds doesn't have much flavor by itself, so my wife and I like to soak a tablespoon of flaxseed in a 4-5 ounces of water, and stir it briskly with a small whisk for a few minutes until it thickens like a jello. Then we add some natural flavor. We use a single serving of Vital Reds (https://smile.amazon.com/Gundry-MD-Concentrated-Polyphenol-Supplement/dp/B01MA555EN/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=vital+reds&qid=1582513124&sr=8-4) from Dr. Gundry, which I highly recommend.

[onawah]

Wuhan and the polluted air as a cause of epidemic illness
Feb 23 2020
by Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/23/wuhan-and-the-polluted-air-as-a-cause-of-epidemic-illness/

"At the very beginning of my coverage of the “China epidemic,” I cited evidence that the air quality in Wuhan is chronically dangerous.

Among other sources, I referred to a Yale review which stated that the mixture of toxic elements in the air is unprecedented in human history. The synergistic effects of these individual toxins is unknown.

I also mentioned the large street protests against air quality in Wuhan that took place last summer. These protests were also carried out in other Chinese cities. The government was obviously alarmed at the nascent rebellion.

Those protests are now gone. Because the cities are locked down. It’s all about “the virus” as the cause of illness.

Horrific air quality brings on lung infections of all kinds, including pneumonia. Pneumonia is THE illness attributed to the coronavirus. How convenient.

The Chinese government has recently ruled that testing patients for the coronavirus isn’t necessary for a diagnosis of “epidemic illness.” A CT scan of the lungs is sufficient. If the patient thus shows signs of pneumonia, he is labeled “a coronavirus case.”

Air quality? Brushed aside.

Assessing studies of annual pneumonia deaths in China—covering years long before the supposed emergence of the new human coronavirus—I settled on the estimate of 300,000 deaths a year.

Assuming this death rate is more or less constant, hundreds of thousands of people could now be called deceased “coronavirus cases” without a flicker of interest in the actual cause of their illness. Those CT scans, picking up signs of pneumonia, and absurdly leading to the label “coronavirus,” are a perfect tool for deception.

Recently, I found an article from capitalcambodia.com, dated February 7, 2020: “‘Polluted air’ could be an important cause of Wuhan pneumonia”. It makes some interesting comments about Wuhan air quality. The article also speculates that “the virus” is carried on particulate pollutants, a claim I find completely unsupported—but the remarks about pollution are worth repeating:

“…three factors. First, the increase of static wind in the horizontal direction, which is not conducive to the diffusion and dilution of atmospheric pollutants. Second, the emergence of a temperature inversion layer in the vertical direction, which makes it difficult for pollutants to move upwards and are blocked at low altitudes and near the ground. Third, the increase of suspended particulates in the air. These three conditions are all available during the high incidence period of Wuhan pneumonia.”

“According to data released by the Wuhan Bureau of Ecology and Environment, the moment when a large number of pneumonia cases emerged in Wuhan was during the period from Jan 19, 2020, to Jan 23, 2020, and the Wuhan air during this period was at the stage of serious pollution. The indices are all higher than 100. This means that the outbreak period of Wuhan pneumonia coincides with the severe period of air pollution and this is one of the reasons. The second supporting reason is that the high incidence areas of Wuhan pneumonia coincide with the severe air pollution areas. We observed by randomly taking one day as a sample and found out that the area with the highest level of air pollution in Wuhan was Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market. This shows that even in ‘normal weather’, the air pollution in the seafood market area was the relatively worst area in Wuhan…Therefore, it is not accidental that Wuhan Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market has become a high-incidence area of Wuhan pneumonia…”

You’ll recall that, at first, reports circulated about the coronavirus emerging in that Market and “jumping species from animals to humans.” These reports didn’t mention highly dangerous air pollutants “jumping” into the lungs of humans."

[pueblo]

A 40 second video showing the progression of Covid-19 compared to other viruses.

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The original full video the above was taken from..

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[RogeRio]

I am following the economic fall out.....


may the fear of illness be a distraction to minimize the fear of bankrupt ?

if the health concern be first priority, the bankrupt runs more free on backgroud.

whoever escapes the disease, if not money-broken, becomes poorer, somehow.

(just speculating)

but things can become more worse :HELP!:

Coronavirus incubation could be as long as 27 days, Chinese provincial government says (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/23/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/coronavirus-incubation-27-days/)

SHANGHAI – A 70-year-old man in China’s Hubei Province was infected with coronavirus but did not show symptoms until 27 days later.

A longer incubation period could complicate efforts to contain spread of the epidemic ..

[Bill Ryan]

Italy - 111 people have tested positive for the respiratory illness (https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/23/coronavirus-updates-10-italian-communities-lockdown-death-toll-rises-china-n1141321)

South Korea - has spiraled to 602 confirmed infections and six deaths (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/23/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html)A question I've not heard anyone ask:

How many Italys, South Koreas, Irans or Japans are there in other parts of China?

[Helvetic]

Wuhan and the polluted air as a cause of epidemic illness
Feb 23 2020
by Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/23/wuhan-and-the-polluted-air-as-a-cause-of-epidemic-illness/

"At the very beginning of my coverage of the “China epidemic,” I cited evidence that the air quality in Wuhan is chronically dangerous.

Among other sources, I referred to a Yale review which stated that the mixture of toxic elements in the air is unprecedented in human history. The synergistic effects of these individual toxins is unknown.

I also mentioned the large street protests against air quality in Wuhan that took place last summer. These protests were also carried out in other Chinese cities. The government was obviously alarmed at the nascent rebellion.

Those protests are now gone. Because the cities are locked down. It’s all about “the virus” as the cause of illness.

Horrific air quality brings on lung infections of all kinds, including pneumonia. Pneumonia is THE illness attributed to the coronavirus. How convenient.

The Chinese government has recently ruled that testing patients for the coronavirus isn’t necessary for a diagnosis of “epidemic illness.” A CT scan of the lungs is sufficient. If the patient thus shows signs of pneumonia, he is labeled “a coronavirus case.”

Air quality? Brushed aside.

Assessing studies of annual pneumonia deaths in China—covering years long before the supposed emergence of the new human coronavirus—I settled on the estimate of 300,000 deaths a year.

Assuming this death rate is more or less constant, hundreds of thousands of people could now be called deceased “coronavirus cases” without a flicker of interest in the actual cause of their illness. Those CT scans, picking up signs of pneumonia, and absurdly leading to the label “coronavirus,” are a perfect tool for deception.

Recently, I found an article from capitalcambodia.com, dated February 7, 2020: “‘Polluted air’ could be an important cause of Wuhan pneumonia”. It makes some interesting comments about Wuhan air quality. The article also speculates that “the virus” is carried on particulate pollutants, a claim I find completely unsupported—but the remarks about pollution are worth repeating:

“…three factors. First, the increase of static wind in the horizontal direction, which is not conducive to the diffusion and dilution of atmospheric pollutants. Second, the emergence of a temperature inversion layer in the vertical direction, which makes it difficult for pollutants to move upwards and are blocked at low altitudes and near the ground. Third, the increase of suspended particulates in the air. These three conditions are all available during the high incidence period of Wuhan pneumonia.”

“According to data released by the Wuhan Bureau of Ecology and Environment, the moment when a large number of pneumonia cases emerged in Wuhan was during the period from Jan 19, 2020, to Jan 23, 2020, and the Wuhan air during this period was at the stage of serious pollution. The indices are all higher than 100. This means that the outbreak period of Wuhan pneumonia coincides with the severe period of air pollution and this is one of the reasons. The second supporting reason is that the high incidence areas of Wuhan pneumonia coincide with the severe air pollution areas. We observed by randomly taking one day as a sample and found out that the area with the highest level of air pollution in Wuhan was Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market. This shows that even in ‘normal weather’, the air pollution in the seafood market area was the relatively worst area in Wuhan…Therefore, it is not accidental that Wuhan Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market has become a high-incidence area of Wuhan pneumonia…”

You’ll recall that, at first, reports circulated about the coronavirus emerging in that Market and “jumping species from animals to humans.” These reports didn’t mention highly dangerous air pollutants “jumping” into the lungs of humans."

Btw: You can check the Air Quality around the globe with this website: www.airvisual.com (http://www.airvisual.com) there is also a free app for your mobile.

[Bill Ryan]

The US can't test people because they don't have enough test kits... In the US, the CDC has tested 414 (four hundred and fourteen) people. That's all.


https://cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

[Bill Ryan]

Re air quality (Jon Rappoport, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1337482#post1337482)), and 5G:

I doubt if the air quality is poor, or if there's any 5G at all, in Codogno, Italy (population 16,000).

Symptoms caused by air pollution, or 5G, aren't infectious.

But — of course! — both will compromise the immune system. So that's a factor. But not a cause of cases in 36 countries, arising all at once.

[Bill Ryan]

From https://scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3051981/coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market-chinese

Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market, scientists say
23 Feb, 2020


Analysis of genomic data from 93 samples of the novel coronavirus suggests it was imported from elsewhere
The busy market then boosted its circulation and spread it to the whole city, research shows

The novel coronavirus that has claimed the lives of more than 2,400 people did not originate at a seafood market in the central China city of Wuhan as was first thought, according to a new study by a team of Chinese scientists.

The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was instead imported from elsewhere, said researchers from Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Garden under the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Chinese Institute for Brain Research.

The team, led by Dr Yu Wenbin, sequenced the genomic data of 93 SARS-CoV-2 samples provided by 12 countries in a bid to track down the source of the infection and understand how it spreads.

What they found was that while the virus had spread rapidly within the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, there had also been two major population expansions on December 8 and January 6.

[Lionie]

Hi Bill
I've just re-read and listened to the recordings of the Anglo Saxon Mission that I downloaded in 2010. It is really chilling now. The way that the witness says that he thinks that a flu like virus will be released that will be attacking people genetically, not everyone together. I'm just hoping that it won't be as bad as they planned. It's also good that the other things haven't happened i.e the nuclear exchange and the wide spread starvation.

The thing to remember though and the thing that is really chilling to remember is that there is a non human intelligence involved in all this. We need to pray to a higher power for some kind of intervention. The earth change i.e massive geo-physical event that's coming. It's mentioned in the bible as being the one that moves every mountain from its place. Has anyone else come forward to talk about this?

I hope that the whistle blower/ witness has protected his identity sufficiently and is in a safe place. While i envy him that he met the Alhoo, I don't envy him being at that awful meeting in 2005 one bit. Bless himxx

L

[Philippe]

Re air quality (Jon Rappoport, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1337482#post1337482)), and 5G:

I doubt if the air quality is poor, or if there's any 5G at all, in Codogno, Italy (population 16,000).

Symptoms caused by air pollution, or 5G, aren't infectious.

But — of course! — both will compromise the immune system. So that's a factor. But not a cause of cases in 36 countries, arising all at once.

This crisis is showing that different life threatening causes have come into play.
One can only wonder why Rappoport continues so stubbornly blaming the pollution in China for the outbreak. As a highly intelligent individual who must know better he probably has his reasons to push that line. Remember that this is an invisible war between 2 nuclear powers and both sides need excuses to cover up their dirty acts and not turning to a nuclear exchange.

It is now high time that some non-aligned country brings a motion before the Security council demanding a stop to all testing and use of bio weapons. The infringements of the Geneva convention must be listed. And an immediate stop and close down of all activities in Level 4 bio-labs worldwide must be demanded.

[Sarah Rainsong]

From https://scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3051981/coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market-chinese

Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market, scientists say
23 Feb, 2020


Analysis of genomic data from 93 samples of the novel coronavirus suggests it was imported from elsewhere
The busy market then boosted its circulation and spread it to the whole city, research shows

The novel coronavirus that has claimed the lives of more than 2,400 people did not originate at a seafood market in the central China city of Wuhan as was first thought, according to a new study by a team of Chinese scientists.

The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was instead imported from elsewhere, said researchers from Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Garden under the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Chinese Institute for Brain Research.

The team, led by Dr Yu Wenbin, sequenced the genomic data of 93 SARS-CoV-2 samples provided by 12 countries in a bid to track down the source of the infection and understand how it spreads.

What they found was that while the virus had spread rapidly within the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, there had also been two major population expansions on December 8 and January 6.

On this note, something I've kinda mulled about in my head... the Spanish Flu of 1918 was so called because Spain was the first country to start reporting. At the time, most people believed it came from Spain because of this. But eventually, people learned that it had actually come out of the U.S.

I wonder what the likelihood is of this virus following a similar path? What if it didn't originate in China at all, or maybe not Wuhan or even anywhere in the Hubai province?

We've known (at least those following this thread) that the virus did not start in the seafood market. So where did it really come from? I know that's the $$$ question. And I'm just speculating.

[wegge]

To be fair, one should also take into account Rappoports other articles, one stating that they introduced a new testing method for the virus.

So now they also do CT Scans and once something along the lines of Pneumonia shows up, it can be labelled Corona. So that´s an explanation how it "spreads" to different countries. If you cleverly change the testing, you can easily escalate case numbers, which escalate the panic factor which might then lead one to consider the nocebo effect, evil cousin of the placebo effect.


I haven´t read many or all mainstream articles, but everytime I see people mentioned dying, they were 70+ years of age. Are there any articles that go deeply into particular cases - showing all the medical and "life" background of a person who died?

[Tintin]

Hi Bill
I've just re-read and listened to the recordings of the Anglo Saxon Mission that I downloaded in 2010. It is really chilling now. The way that the witness says that he thinks that a flu like virus will be released that will be attacking people genetically, not everyone together. I'm just hoping that it won't be as bad as they planned. It's also good that the other things haven't happened i.e the nuclear exchange and the wide spread starvation.

The thing to remember though and the thing that is really chilling to remember is that there is a non human intelligence involved in all this. We need to pray to a higher power for some kind of intervention. The earth change i.e massive geo-physical event that's coming. It's mentioned in the bible as being the one that moves every mountain from its place. Has anyone else come forward to talk about this?

I hope that the whistle blower/ witness has protected his identity sufficiently and is in a safe place. While i envy him that he met the Alhoo, I don't envy him being at that awful meeting in 2005 one bit. Bless himxx

L

Hi Lionie :flower:

Kerry (Cassidy) stated that this whistle-blower has now passed on, in her repost of the Anglo-Saxon Mission interview/transcript/letter here (http://projectcamelotportal.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-bioweapon-predicted-by-2-camelot-whistleblowers/)

Quote: ...This whistleblower died about 1 year ago)…

:focus:

[Tintin]

Analysis of genomic data from 93 samples of the novel coronavirus suggests it was imported from elsewhere

But eventually, people learned that it had actually come out of the U.S.

What if it didn't originate in China at all, or maybe not Wuhan or even anywhere in the Hubai province?

We've known (at least those following this thread) that the virus did not start in the seafood market. So where did it really come from? I know that's the $$$ question. And I'm just speculating.

Thanks for this intelligent speculation - I have done similarly :highfive:

In my ongoing librarian role I'd sourced the Fort Riley Paper a couple of weeks ago while exploring that event (Spanish Flu) - I see a correlation, too. I've more detail to drill down into around that particular outbreak, but, that paper is quite informative at least from the vaccine testing angle.

Fort Riley Paper [Vaccines related] from 1918: http://avalonlibrary.net/Fort_Riley_Paper_1918_%5bPaper%5d%20%5bVaccines_related%5d/A_REPORT_ON_ANTIMENINGITIS_VACCINATION_AND_OBSERVATIONS_ON_AGGLUTININS_IN_THE_BLOOD_OF_CHRONIC_MENIN GOCOCCUS_CARRIERS_(Frederick%20L%20Gates-July_1918).pdf

Millennium Report article on Spanish Flu: themillenniumreport.com/2018/11/spanish-flu-of-1918-was-really-a-bioterror-attack-on-humanity/

[ExomatrixTV]

Coronavirus New Facts (https://www.davidicke.com/article/564691/coronavirus-new-facts-truth-deception-vaccinations-wuhan-del-bigtree-interview), the Truth and Deception about Vaccinations, Wuhan, Del Bigtree Interview!

[spade]

A question I've not heard anyone ask:

How many Italys, South Koreas, Irans or Japans are there in other parts of China?

Apologies Bill - I don't understand your question...

[Chester]

Considering the possibility of "false flag"... more and more "mainstream media" outlets are giving more credence to the "theory" this came from the Level Four "Biosafety" facility based in Wuhan. Since I have seen all sorts of games played with regard to finger pointing, I have no opinion as to what may be the actual truth regarding the cause.

[Hym]

I was wondering when someone, if ever, was going to tell the truth about the "Spanish Flu" and it's origins. I always note when discussing the many deaths in The 1918 pandemic that the origin of the viral strains were from the u.s.. It should have been called the East Coast Vaccine Disease, the East Coast Flu, the Military Flu, or the Rockefeller Flu (as some of the strains used to create the vacs were from the Rockefeller Institute). Homeopathic, naturopathic and dietary strengthening prevention provided many times more effective from the outbreak, from the inside source of drug manufacturers, than the dangerous use of a vaccine.

I would suggest reading the above Fort Riley Paper and see for yourself the abject ignorance of those willing to use and be given vaccines in this manner, let alone in any manner. If you know the military, especially the military in the states, it is common to abuse, injure and sometimes kill those in it's charge by experimenting on it's honest and dedicated men and women by vaccinating the hell out of them, to hell with the consequences as far as those in control, the senior officers and the corporations they serve, are concerned.

In this case the word 'flu' is too mild of a term when we consider the severity of the consequences of continuing to use vaccines and not the use of many other proven natural treatments for infectious disease prevention and mitigation.

Always consider the misuse, the abuse, and the manipulation of every term, every word that the media and the so-called medical experts use in their reports. It is not just the chinese authorities who are guilty of hiding the truth from the origin, it's outcome and ultimately on to the measures used to forward the public acceptance of a viral agenda.

[Delight]

To be fair, one should also take into account Rappoports other articles, one stating that they introduced a new testing method for the virus.

So now they also do CT Scans and once something along the lines of Pneumonia shows up, it can be labelled Corona. So that´s an explanation how it "spreads" to different countries. If you cleverly change the testing, you can easily escalate case numbers, which escalate the panic factor which might then lead one to consider the nocebo effect, evil cousin of the placebo effect.

I haven´t read many or all mainstream articles, but everytime I see people mentioned dying, they were 70+ years of age. Are there any articles that go deeply into particular cases - showing all the medical and "life" background of a person who died?

YES there is the placebo/nocebo effect ALL WAYS in the interface between the mind and body. I feel frustrated with failure to use what we SHOULD already have learned about the body/mind/spirit TRIAD of life.

However, I also respect that the physical adaptation process within an ever changing relationship has been THOROUGHLY DIS Respected by "modern" frankenstein science. This IMO is why I agree that the cumulative effect of toxicity, 5G, VACCINES etc. is making us very fragile. Also, I really believe we heard a true report that this virus is not natural.

I feel afraid that a huge amount of the collective mind wants this to be a widespread kill shot. Then it was created and deployed. Maynbe it will leave pockets of people but what I am afraid is the dead body is civilization. LOVE which could flower in understanding of how to be a person living in paradise is the possible savior. Maybe we can simultaneously take in the PLACEBO where we become a lover and not a destroyer of life.

My brother told me Sunday that he is a champion for killing off most humans. i was speechless because he meant it. he has bought the MEME that has been deployed in advance of the virus......

[Eligos]

A question I've not heard anyone ask:

How many Italys, South Koreas, Irans or Japans are there in other parts of China?

Apologies Bill - I don't understand your question...

I believe what he was asking is how many areas of China are in full blown infection and the CCP is purposely not revealing it...

[Agape]

Considering the possibility of "false flag"... more and more "mainstream media" outlets are giving more credence to the "theory" this came from the Level Four "Biosafety" facility based in Wuhan. Since I have seen all sorts of games played with regard to finger pointing, I have no opinion as to what may be the actual truth regarding the cause.

It’s hard to say because there are so many things either “collective” are unaware of.
Speaking of “collectives”/human groups rather than individuals. Every country is a collective working under one “flag” but there are many scattered “collectives” in every society and all over the globe who carry an amount of information, education/experience and awareness than others.
What every “group think”/collective misses to a degree is the amount of collectives out there who think differently.
To Chinese people I presume the world looks like “big China” since China is big and it’s what they’ve been taught about.

To Americans the world looks like big America or could be.

Why not. The natural world by itself with all its Life without exception belongs to itself and itself alone. It’s one and none can surpass the law of One and that’s also a law of balance between us and the rest of nature since we are also but a part of it.

Yin and yang.

We know the world is out of balance because of human activity yet it takes ages to improve our intentions, if not intentions than emotions about it, may be a sadness, even despair in order to find our true way with it.
I think the process is slow again because how human collectives differ.

Some are overinformed and speeding forwards only to marvel the fact there is no one ahead waiting for them while parts of this world are just about literate enough to understand what virus is. Believe it or not.

Thus we have wars and guarded borders even if in itself it does not make any huge sense but only adding to the political difficulty.


The whole thing looks like big PR show and show of preparedness so it’s necessarily being over exaggerated, treated as “biohazard 4 level situation” while in reality rounding people in mass, with airborne virus probably caused times more deaths than if they home quarantined, it’s a virus : most healthy people get through it after bad week or two with or without treatment.
It could be the deaths of many older generation people that sparked alert pointing to the insufficiency of social care in China, what about the US and the rest...


Very easily, natural or not the “virus” could stand a cause to next global war, brining out all the rest of the dirt that is hiding under our feet.

Or in better case, it won’t. Cities will be disinfected and people more cautious about their hygiene. I know how sheepish this sounds but I knew academics who would take 16 vaccinations before trip to India and then would refuse to wash their hands and cloths because “they do t have to”.
It’s difficult for many local collectives to accept this world has changed and not always for the better and how to deal with it.

The planet does need clean up and it makes me feel bad if these strong guys who can carry log of wood aren’t able to give a hand to the environment but wait that someone else do it for them. Or ship their waste to China.

The garbage, waste and car fumes are everywhere and one has to go really far these days to be away from it. It became a tabu to talk about.
And that’s a smallest part of the dirt we are breathing.

Deniers are funny characters but they won’t make it far. They’ll paint expensive rose quartz picture above all the mess and keep starring at it, chanting mantras.
Not saying funny, I’m saying it’s desperate attitude.

.

To the better, cleaner world of future

🥂

[Bill Ryan]

A question I've not heard anyone ask:

How many Italys, South Koreas, Irans or Japans are there in other parts of China?

Apologies Bill - I don't understand your question...Think of it this way.

In Italy, South Korea, Iran and Japan, there are rapidly increasing clusters of cases, threatening to get out of control. Yet they all stemmed directly or indirectly from someone who'd come from China, and who was infected.

Just one infectious person can start an outbreak.

But before Wuhan was locked down, five million Chinese traveled... not to Italy, South Korea, Iran or Japan, but to other parts of China.

So it seems statistically certain that there will be MANY (maybe hundreds) of similar clusters of cases in distant regions of China that are of the same seriousnes as Italy, South Korea, Iran or Japan — but are completely unreported.

[Franny]

Re air quality (Jon Rappoport, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1337482#post1337482)), and 5G:

I doubt if the air quality is poor, or if there's any 5G at all, in Codogno, Italy (population 16,000).

Symptoms caused by air pollution, or 5G, aren't infectious.

But — of course! — both will compromise the immune system. So that's a factor. But not a cause of cases in 36 countries, arising all at once.

JR is not taking the Princess cruise ship into consideration in his theory. Although the air quality may not be the best, there is no 5G on the ship. The recycled air would have contributed to the the spread of a virus as it has done on many cruises but not the effects of 5G.

[Delight]

Re air quality (Jon Rappoport, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1337482#post1337482)), and 5G:

I doubt if the air quality is poor, or if there's any 5G at all, in Codogno, Italy (population 16,000).

Symptoms caused by air pollution, or 5G, aren't infectious.

But — of course! — both will compromise the immune system. So that's a factor. But not a cause of cases in 36 countries, arising all at once.

JR is not taking the Princess cruise ship into consideration in his theory. Although the air quality may not be the best, there is no 5G on the ship. The recycled air would have contributed to the the spread of a virus as it has done on many cruises but not the effects of 5G.

It sort of mystifies me that JR writes so much defense proclaiming no virus exists? I wish he would just back off or regroup? Sure that boy cried wolf so many times one doubted the wolf exists.The wolf may have shown itself and .... NOW WHAT?

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)

[Bill Ryan]

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)Assuming these videos and images are real, it suggests to me that what we're seeing are cases of sudden heart failure. That seems pretty much the only explanation.

Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) has talked about that as a potential issue in RE-infection after recovery and discharge. (See his 14 Feb video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJ5thwr4C8) titled Even Deadlier Reinfection Risk?) But I'd be most interested to hear others with medical training discussing what's happening here. It seems very alarming.

[Bill Ryan]

A few predictions and speculations from myself. (For what they're worth — maybe very little! :) )

1) The markets have been climbing. Of course, that's because they're being propped up artificially to avoid panic. And big institutions, seeing this, are jumping on that bandwagon to invest, knowing they're rising.

But at some point soon, this is going to fall out of the sky. Then everyone, already watching very carefully, will sell all at once and take their short-term profits. Then there'll be very sharp, large drops which may be unstoppable.

2) The WHO will declare this a pandemic as soon as (1) the first non-Egypt African cases are reported, and also (2) the first South American cases. Then all formal definitions are met. They'll have no choice.

3) At that point, the mainstream will make that a very major headline. (For almost the first time!) The WHO pandemic announcement and the market drops will all happen at pretty much the same time.

4) Then, we'll see a bunch of feature TV programs, and major articles (Time, Newsweek, Fortune, etc), all looking into the medium-term future. Everyone will start talking about this.

5) This is more speculative, but I do think the Chinese regime may fall. If so: no bad thing, at ALL. :Party:

6) But the big impact will be the closure of the 'world's factory' on 1001 (or 100001) items we all take for granted as always readily available — including electronics, cars, household appliances, and almost everything made of plastic.

7) And even more speculative: IF the Chinese regime really does have its back against the wall, and IF they suspect (or know) this is a biowarfare attack against them (which it may or may not be) — then, see this chilling Jeff Nyquist interview in post #756 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336531&viewfull=1#post1336531). — there may be a major global firefight coming.

It'd argue this is extremely unlikely... but may not be totally impossible. If China really was going under, and the US had intended and engineered that, then China would just launch every weapon it had to make sure they're not going down alone. (Watch Joseph Farrell: I suspect he may agree that this could be theoretically possible.)
Well, here's an update.

I think we can pretty much check off 1, 2, 3 and 4.

It's not officially a pandemic yet, but that seems inevitable. The WHO is already making statements that seem to be preparing the ground for that announcement. I'd expect it within 7-10 days.

I was wrong about the tipping point being the first African and South American cases. Instead, it's Iran and Italy.

The markets have taken their biggest drop for 4 years, as the opportunistic investors who'd ridden on the back of the pumped-in money have taken their profits. No-one will be investing in stocks now. In contrast, gold is at a 7 year high.

And all this is now being discussed a LOT more, and more seriously, in the mainstream. At last, the commentators are talking openly about very serious supply chain disruption. And in the US, the situation is shambolic and chaotic, which will start to attract more and more attention. There'll be a great deal more, about all of this, during the next couple of weeks.

[Delight]

6) But the big impact will be the closure of the 'world's factory' on 1001 (or 100001) items we all take for granted as always readily available — including electronics, cars, household appliances, and almost everything made of plastic.

7) And even more speculative: IF the Chinese regime really does have its back against the wall, and IF they suspect (or know) this is a biowarfare attack against them (which it may or may not be) — then, see this chilling Jeff Nyquist interview in post #756 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336531&viewfull=1#post1336531). — there may be a major global firefight coming.

It'd argue this is extremely unlikely... but may not be totally impossible. If China really was going under, and the US had intended and engineered that, then China would just launch every weapon it had to make sure they're not going down alone. (Watch Joseph Farrell: I suspect he may agree that this could be theoretically possible.)
Well, here's an update.

I think we can pretty much check off 1, 2, 3 and 4.

It's not officially a pandemic yet, but that seems inevitable. The WHO is already making statements that seem to be preparing the ground for that announcement. I'd expect it within 7-10 days.

I was wrong about the tipping point being the first African and South American cases. Instead, it's Iran and Italy.

The markets have taken their biggest drop for 4 years, as the opportunistic investors who'd ridden on the back of the pumped-in money have taken their profits. No-one will be investing in stocks now. In contrast, gold is at a 7 year high.

And all this is now being discussed a LOT more, and more seriously, in the mainstream. At last, the commentators are talking openly about very serious supply chain disruption. And in the US, the situation is shambolic and chaotic, which will start to attract more and more attention. There'll be a great deal more, about all of this, during the next couple of weeks.

What are the implications of having few hospital beds? Is this going to excuse a crack down? Where I live looks really weird... retirees with family far away... few hospital beds.... economy dependent on tourism and building housing for new tourists.


Op-Ed: U.S. hospitals are unprepared for the spread of coronavirus. Here’s what they should do
By WILLIAM HASELTINE
FEB. 24, 2020 (https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-02-24/op-ed-u-s-hospitals-are-unprepared-for-the-spread-of-coronavirus-heres-what-they-need-to-do)

When the new coronavirus COVID-19 first broke out, China’s healthcare system was unprepared. Hospital waiting rooms were so packed with prospective patients that hundreds more had no choice but to line up outside. Many waited several hours, only to be turned away and urged to self-quarantine. More troubling, experts say, is that the chaos of this initial surge likely did more to spread the disease than stop it.

The same fate awaits us here if the new virus becomes a global pandemic.

Hospitals in the United States are already so overburdened, and their staffs so overworked, that one bad flu season is enough to push them over capacity. Just two years ago, during a particularly bad season in California, patients seeking treatment for the flu instead found themselves in “war zones.” Hospitals turned away ambulances, imported nurses from elsewhere and erected parking lot tents when they ran out of beds. Surgeries had to be canceled and hospitals ran out of supplies.

If the new coronavirus gains momentum here, infecting thousands, the outlook would be even grimmer. To be sure, we are better prepared than we were for the last coronavirus outbreak in 2009. Our hospitals now have pandemic plans to ensure that enough equipment, protective gear and administrative controls are available to deal with a surge of new patients.

But, on their own, these measures are not enough.

First, we must do more to make sure that if an outbreak occurs, we can keep and treat people where they are safest — in their homes. That will require leveraging or boosting the telehealth capabilities of local clinics to enable remote diagnosis of emergent coronavirus cases. Such virtual consultations would divert pressure away from hospitals and limit the transmission of infections in crowded waiting rooms.

Second, we must ensure that any added costs of protection and prevention are covered for patients. Currently, payment by insurance companies for virtual urgent care is not federally mandated, and many plans don’t cover it. Without a guarantee that their costs will be covered, patients may still head to hospitals to avoid the fees.

Finally, we must prepare our hospitals and our health systems now for future crises even greater than the one we may face with COVID-19. This latest coronavirus is, by all appearances so far, more benign than some previous ones. Though it is highly transmissible, it has a low mortality rate, with the vast majority of those infected surviving whether they are treated at home or in a hospital.

But there will come a time when a coronavirus outbreak or other biothreat emerges that is more lethal and widespread than anything previously seen. Our hospital-centric health system isn’t equipped to handle such a crisis. We must forge a new path toward a health system of distributed care, where patients receive care where they need it most — not just in hospitals, but in the home and community.

The United States is home to some of the world’s best health providers and technological innovations. But we still hold to an antiquated notion that advanced healthcare is best delivered in hospitals. Countries like Singapore have shown that distributed care can be achieved on a national scale, and if they can do it, so can we.

William Haseltine recently returned from Wuhan, where he chaired the 9th U.S.-China Health Summit. A former Harvard Medical School professor, he serves as chair and president of the global health think tank, ACCESS Health International.

[Pam]

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)Assuming these videos and images are real, it suggests to me that what we're seeing are cases of sudden heart failure. That seems pretty much the only explanation.

Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) has talked about that as a potential issue in RE-infection after recovery and discharge. (See his 14 Feb video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJ5thwr4C8) titled Even Deadlier Reinfection Risk?) But I'd be most interested to hear others with medical training discussing what's happening here. It seems very alarming.

I am suspecting that whatever happened had an immediate onset. Most people are not going to go somewhere if they are feeling really weak, sick or light headed. I am guessing that it is cardiac arrest, acute congestive heart failure, a major aneurysm or possibly some form of extreme hypoxia(lack of air). If what we saw in one of those pictures was actually blood could there be some sort of leaky lung episode? Just thinking out loud here.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)Assuming these videos and images are real, it suggests to me that what we're seeing are cases of sudden heart failure. That seems pretty much the only explanation.

Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) has talked about that as a potential issue in RE-infection after recovery and discharge. (See his 14 Feb video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJ5thwr4C8) titled Even Deadlier Reinfection Risk?) But I'd be most interested to hear others with medical training discussing what's happening here. It seems very alarming.

I am suspecting that whatever happened had an immediate onset. Most people are not going to go somewhere if they are feeling really weak, sick or light headed. I am guessing that it is cardiac arrest, acute congestive heart failure, a major aneurysm or possibly some form of extreme hypoxia(lack of air). If what we saw in one of those pictures was actually blood could there be some sort of leaky lung episode? Just thinking out loud here.

Found this on another site, but it suggests yet another possibility. Scary! It is a journal article from a SARS study:
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus Infection Causes Neuronal Death in the Absence of Encephalitis in Mice Transgenic for Human ACE2▿ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493326/)

Very medically oriented reading, but it appears to say that viral brain infection can cause rapid neuronal destruction, and the SARS Coronavirus when studied in mice lead to death in that way.

[Pam]

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)Assuming these videos and images are real, it suggests to me that what we're seeing are cases of sudden heart failure. That seems pretty much the only explanation.

Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) has talked about that as a potential issue in RE-infection after recovery and discharge. (See his 14 Feb video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJ5thwr4C8) titled Even Deadlier Reinfection Risk?) But I'd be most interested to hear others with medical training discussing what's happening here. It seems very alarming.

I am suspecting that whatever happened had an immediate onset. Most people are not going to go somewhere if they are feeling really weak, sick or light headed. I am guessing that it is cardiac arrest, acute congestive heart failure, a major aneurysm or possibly some form of extreme hypoxia(lack of air). If what we saw in one of those pictures was actually blood could there be some sort of leaky lung episode? Just thinking out loud here.

Found this on another site, but it suggests yet another possibility. Scary! It is a journal article from a SARS study:
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus Infection Causes Neuronal Death in the Absence of Encephalitis in Mice Transgenic for Human ACE2▿ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493326/)

Very medically oriented reading, but it appears to say that viral brain infection can cause rapid neuronal destruction, and the SARS Coronavirus when studied in mice lead to death in that way.

Eeeh Gads, that looks awful! I just noticed 18 new cases in the US. This is starting to feel real now. Off to get extra dog food.

[Baby Steps]

the following has been offered unattributed by Pepe Escobar

https://cryptome.org/2020/02/CIA-biovirus-2019.pdf

Alarmist, and again suggesting that this is a strategy to bring down China, or the Chinese state. A prelude to further hostilities.

[Sarah Rainsong]

WHO will not be announcing a pandemic. Period.

They decided they don't like that word. [/snark]

I read this article (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who/who-says-no-longer-uses-pandemic-category-but-virus-still-emergency-idUSKCN20I0N8) which had this news this morning while on my phone. Not easy to link & quote from my phone, so I didn't. I figured someone else would see it and link, or I'd do it later. But then they went and changed the article.

Note the title in the address for that article, though: ...us-china-health-who/who-says-no-longer-uses-pandemic-category-but-virus-still-emergency-idUSKCN20I0N8

However, I did manage to find this, which appears to be the original article:
WHO says it no longer uses 'pandemic' category, but virus still emergency (https://news.trust.org/item/20200224092606-wacgq/)


(Refiles story using the word 'classification' and not 'term' in first paragraph)

By Stephanie Nebehay

GENEVA, Feb 24 (Reuters) - The World Health Organization no longer uses the classification pandemic, but the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak remains an international emergency that is likely to spread further, a spokesman said on Monday.

Fears of a coronavirus pandemic grew after sharp rises in new cases reported in Iran, Italy and South Korea, although China relaxed restrictions on movement in several places including Beijing as its rates of new infections eased.

The Geneva-based WHO declared the 2009 H1N1 swine flu outbreak a pandemic, which turned out to be mild, leading to some criticism after pharmaceutical companies rushed development of vaccines and drugs.

WHO declared the novel coronavirus that emerged in Wuhan, China, in December a public health emergency of international concern, known as a PHEIC, on Jan. 30. The designation, which remains in place, was aimed at helping countries with weaker health systems shore up their defences, especially in Africa.

Since then the virus has spread, with more than 77,000 known infections in China, including 2,445 deaths, and 1,769 cases and 17 deaths in 28 other countries, the latest WHO figures show. South Korea, Japan and Italy are experiencing large outbreaks.

"There is no official category (for a pandemic)," WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic said.

"For the sake of clarification, WHO does not use the old system of 6 phases — that ranged from phase 1 (no reports of animal influenza causing human infections) to phase 6 (a pandemic) — that some people may be familiar with from H1N1 in 2009," he said.

Colloquially, pandemic is used to denote the outbreak of a new pathogen that spreads easily person-to-person across the globe, Jasarevic said.

"What we are seeing at the moment are outbreaks and clusters of cases in multiple countries. Some countries have since stopped transmission. They must remain alert for the possibility of reintroduction. There will likely be more cases in more places," he said.

"Definitions and terminology aside, our advice remains the same, and we continue working with countries to limit the spread of the virus while also preparing for the possibility of wider spread," he said.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO director-general, said on Friday: "I would like to assure you we are following this virus 24/7 round the clock ... As we speak our situation is that we are still in a phase where containment is possible with a narrowing window of opportunity." (Reporting by Stephanie Nebehay Editing by Alex Richardson, Peter Graff and Giles Elgood)

[Bill Ryan]

WHO will not be announcing a pandemic. Period.

They decided they don't like that word. [/snark]



There’s a world health group called the WHO.
They have no idea what they should do.
It’s all academic,
There’s just no pandemic,
And Tedros has not got a clue.

:)

[Bill Ryan]

Read this carefully! (published 1hr 15mins ago)


https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html

(https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html)



US senators will be briefed tomorrow on coronavirus

All US senators will be briefed Tuesday morning at 8 a.m. in a classified setting on the novel coronavirus, two sources with knowledge of the plans tell CNN.

One source said that the briefing will be in a classified setting because the senators who are organizing it wanted to be prepared in case a senator asks a question that can only be answered in a classified setting.

[Eligos]

"One source said that the briefing will be in a classified setting because the senators who are organizing it wanted to be prepared in case a senator asks a question that can only be answered in a classified setting. "
Yes the "Elite" know what to do, they are in charge and we are just too dumb to understand.

Barak says it right here:

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e51c25dd4d0a40020e599b6&t=460

[Bill Ryan]

"One source said that the briefing will be in a classified setting because the senators who are organizing it wanted to be prepared in case a senator asks a question that can only be answered in a classified setting. "
Yes the "Elite" know what to do, they are in charge and we are just too dumb to understand.

Maybe even more to the point: what could be briefed to senators about COVID-19 that would be classified?

Or what questions asked, to which the correct detailed answers would be classified?

[Pam]

WHO will not be announcing a pandemic. Period.

They decided they don't like that word. [/snark]



There’s a world health group called the WHO.
They have no idea what they should do.
It’s all academic,
There’s just no pandemic,
And Tedros has not got a clue.

:)

Isn't it mind boggling that they are more interested in trying to look good and avoid accountability rather than actually just doing their job and presenting us with the facts like Singapore did. The primary concern of course is to prevent the economic house of cards from falling and it looks like they may have have failed on that note. The blatant lack of concern for the average citizen is beyond pale. This world just keeps getting more and more bizarre.

I went to a big box store to get dog food and most people seem oblivious to the potential problems that might be coming our way. I did see one gal that looked like she preparing but that was it. I don't want to paint a picture that I am frantic, but I would rather buy staples now and avoid the anxiety of short supply or no supply later. I am kind of figuring having basic nutrition for about 40 days would be prudent. Like Chris said, when it goes south this can be a very speedy process. I hope I am chuckling at myself in a couple months but it actually feels good to have a backup supply of food and medical supplies. The few people I have tried to discuss this with just seem to want to avoid thinking about it.


From the very beginning of this I had a strong feeling we would get just as much information about what they don't say as what they do say. There seems to be some truth in that. I find the US response to this very, very peculiar.

[Eligos]

Right Bill, imagine the consensus at the meeting turns to " we are too late, they are going to lynch us when they find out"
Yeah, better have that meeting behind closed doors....

[Bill Ryan]

Right Bill, imagine the consensus at the meeting turns to " we are too late, they are going to lynch us when they find out"
Yeah, better have that meeting behind closed doors....

Or:

Sen. Tom Cotton: Did this virus originate at the Wuhan BSL-4 lab?
DHS briefing administrator: Gentlemen, I request a 5 minute break to consult with my colleagues. And then we need to respond to this question in closed session.

[AutumnW]

This crisis is showing that different life threatening causes have come into play.
One can only wonder why Rappoport continues so stubbornly blaming the pollution in China for the outbreak. As a highly intelligent individual who must know better he probably has his reasons to push that line. Remember that this is an invisible war between 2 nuclear powers and both sides need excuses to cover up their dirty acts and not turning to a nuclear exchange. -- Phillipe

No need to wonder about why he sticks to his story. The guy has THE most narcissistic energy. Watch one of his on stage performances. I am speaking as someone who was a huge fan and followed him very early on.

He is probably living for clicks now. Sad and all too common. If he is making money stating an extreme point of view, don't expect him to change his mind in the face of ever mounting evidence. Sad. So much tainted info out there.

[AutumnW]

KFM posted this a couple of days ago. I want to highlight it as I think it is possible.

https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

[Bill Ryan]

The situation in Iran has caused some to wonder if the virus has mutated to a deadlier version. (Or, whether this is a different bioweapon strain now targeted at Iran)

https://independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/coronavirus-iran-death-toll-outbreak-health-latest-a9355626.html
(24 Feb 2020, 5 hours ago)

Up to 50 die in Iran as weak public health systems struggle to contain deadly virus

War-torn public health systems in Iraq and Afghanistan struggle to prevent an outbreak

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/02/24/16/iran-coronavirus.jpg
Emergency first responders wear protective masks stand in Tehran

Coronavirus fatalities rocketed in Iran, with at least 12 and as many as 50 reported deaths from the malady which is penetrating the Middle East.

The illness, first encountered in China, has proven unusually lethal in Iran. The first cases were reported on 19 February, with 47 patients so far confirmed carrying the virus. That marks an official Iranian mortality rate of 25 per cent, far greater than the 3.2 per cent reported in China.

Research suggests the disparity could be attributed to access to differing levels of nutrition, housing and quality healthcare. But experts say it could also potentially point to the emergence of a new and more deadly mutation of the virus, though health officials said (https://www.newscientist.com/article/2231453-new-coronavirus-may-be-much-more-contagious-than-initially-thought/) last week there was no evidence the virus was changing. John Paget, an epidemiologist at the Netherlands Institute for Public Health (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/public-health) Research, suggested that the Iranians could just be undercounting the number of cases.

“It’s very worrisome,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization, told reporters on Friday about the spread of the disease beyond China. “These dots are actually very concerning,” he said referring to a map showing the spread of the illness to new clusters.

The outbreak of the respiratory disease in Iran has dominated local headlines and news broadcasts, sparking a fresh wave of dread in a country already hit over the last year by various natural and manmade calamities including earthquakes, floods, political unrest, economic decline, and a near-war with the United States that resulted in the downing of a Ukrainian passenger jet by the country’s own armed forces.

Schools, universities and cultural centres across 14 Iranian provinces have been closed.

The spread of the disease is also causing a wave of fear across the Middle East, with airport employees donning surgical masks and gloves, and commuters avoiding public transportation and physical contact with friends. Ancient religious pilgrimage routes have been shut down and aviation links have been closed.

Oman suspended all flights to Iran, while Qatar Airways announced a 14-day quarantine period for anyone traveling to the country from Iran or South Korea, where the virus has afflicted at least 600 people. And the health ministry of Israel, which has diagnosed multiple cases, announced on Sunday that any foreigner who had visited Japan or South Korea in the last weeks would be barred from entering.

In Bahrain, a single case was a bus driver who managed to drive children to three schools on Sunday; all three schools have been shuttered for two weeks. Kuwait said three patients diagnosed with the virus had all arrived from Iran in recent days.

Cases have also been reported in the United Arab Emirates, but perhaps most ominously in Iraq and Afghanistan, both war-torn countries with dilapidated public health systems ill-prepared to contain the deadly virus.

As with many matters in Iran, coronavirus has raised questions about government transparency. The outbreak in Iran has been traced to the shrine and seminary city of Qom, a major global crossroads for Shia pilgrims and students, as well as a pillar of the country’s clerical political elite.

While the country’s deputy health minister Iraj Harichi said 12 people had died from the virus, a lawmaker from Qom claimed 50 people had died. When his claim was challenged by the health ministry, he said he passed on the names of 40 of the dead to Mr Harichi.

“Now, we await his resignation,” lawmaker Ahmad Amirabadi-Farahani said, according to the semi-official Iranian Labour News Agency.

Iranian officials quickly sought to cast blame for the outbreak, alleging that illegal migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan and China had brought in the virus, even as the first reported cases were in a city 600 miles from the country’s eastern borders.

Even as some officials sought to highlight the risks of the virus, broadcast media downplayed the epidemic, with a state TV presenter saying “fear of coronavirus inflicts more damage than the virus itself.”

Iraq had closed borders to Iran on 20 February to halt any spread of the virus. But Iraqi officials cited by local media said an Iranian seminary student in the shrine city of Najaf who had arrived before the travel restrictions had been diagnosed with the virus.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/02/24/17/iran-.jpg Woman wears protective mask while walking along the side of a street in the Iranian capital Tehran

At least three Afghans in the country’s western Herat province, which neighbours Iran, have been diagnosed with the illness.

Despite the closing of the borders with Iran, public health officials worry that the thousands who traverse the region’s porous frontiers via smuggling routes could help spread the virus, which like the flu can be transmitted via sneezing or coughing.

“Another major problem in Afghanistan is illegal border-crossing,” said Wahidullah Mayar, the spokesman for the Afghan health ministry.

The health systems of Iraq and Afghanistan have been devastated by years of war that have caused chronic shortages of utilities and an exodus of medical professionals.

Armenia on Monday announced that it was the latest country to close its land border with Iran following similar closures by Pakistan, Afghanistan and Turkey, which has suspended air and rail links to its eastern neighbour. Along with Georgia, Yerevan officials also imposed flight restrictions over fears the virus could spread to the Caucasus region.

But Mr Paget, the epidemiologist, suggested that public health offiicials and policymakers were overreacting. “There’s too much panic,” he said. “They did the right strategy to try to contain it, but it’s not working. Transmissibility is super high. So we have to change strategy. We need to accept that this is now part of our ecosystem. It’s probably going to be there every winter with all the other viruses.”

[Sarah Rainsong]

The situation in Iran has caused some to wonder if the virus has mutated to a deadlier version. (Or, whether this is a different bioweapon strain now targeted at Iran)


Remember the movie War Games. It's on Prime, and we just watched it w/ my kids the other night. Remember as the computer Joshua ran through different nuclear war scenarios and the screens showed bunches of arched trajectories going back and forth across the globe?

Imagine it now with bioweapons.

That's what I thought of when you posted that, Bill.

[Chester]

This crisis is showing that different life threatening causes have come into play.
One can only wonder why Rappoport continues so stubbornly blaming the pollution in China for the outbreak. As a highly intelligent individual who must know better he probably has his reasons to push that line. Remember that this is an invisible war between 2 nuclear powers and both sides need excuses to cover up their dirty acts and not turning to a nuclear exchange. -- Phillipe

No need to wonder about why he sticks to his story. The guy has THE most narcissistic energy. Watch one of his on stage performances. I am speaking as someone who was a huge fan and followed him very early on.

He is probably living for clicks now. Sad and all too common. If he is making money stating an extreme point of view, don't expect him to change his mind in the face of ever mounting evidence. Sad. So much tainted info out there.

Reminds me of what happened with Michael Salla... sell out one's integrity for the perceived gain of marketing sensationalistic fabulism.


KFM posted this a couple of days ago. I want to highlight it as I think it is possible.

https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage

And this does not seem farfetched.

[ExomatrixTV]

Coronavirus Crashes U.S. Economy?
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[Bill Ryan]

Chris Martenson's daily update, as of less than an hour ago. This man is a class act. :sun:

He slams the US authorities, the CDC and the WHO. With reason.

Today's message: Time to prepare.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYnomkC1fA

[Delight]

ALEX JONES (2nd HOUR) Monday 2/24/20: Mike Adams, Joel Skousen, News, Reports & Analysis • Infowars

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[Delight]

Barbara Loe Fisher whom I respect talking about her expectations of what will happen here in the states. Start at 13:20

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[Bill Ryan]

Barbara Loe Fisher whom I respect talking about her expectations of what will happen here in the states. Start at 13:20

FmT_40UcxzoVery good. :thumbsup: Here's Barbara Loe Fisher's article:


U.S. Marines and Navy Prepare to Execute Pandemic Plan As Questions Resurface About Coronavirus Origin

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/02/u-s-marines-and-navy-prepare-to-execute-pandemic-plan-as-questions-resurface-about-coronavirus-origin

[Arcturian108]

Re air quality (Jon Rappoport, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1337482#post1337482)), and 5G:

I doubt if the air quality is poor, or if there's any 5G at all, in Codogno, Italy (population 16,000).

Symptoms caused by air pollution, or 5G, aren't infectious.

But — of course! — both will compromise the immune system. So that's a factor. But not a cause of cases in 36 countries, arising all at once.

JR is not taking the Princess cruise ship into consideration in his theory. Although the air quality may not be the best, there is no 5G on the ship. The recycled air would have contributed to the the spread of a virus as it has done on many cruises but not the effects of 5G.

Dana Ashlie's video report on the 5G implications of the Wuhan virus discussed that the cruise ship parked in Yokohama does have 5G satellite communication on the high seas, and certainly much of Japan already has 5G working.

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Re air quality (Jon Rappoport, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1337482#post1337482)), and 5G:

I doubt if the air quality is poor, or if there's any 5G at all, in Codogno, Italy (population 16,000).

Symptoms caused by air pollution, or 5G, aren't infectious.

But — of course! — both will compromise the immune system. So that's a factor. But not a cause of cases in 36 countries, arising all at once.

JR is not taking the Princess cruise ship into consideration in his theory. Although the air quality may not be the best, there is no 5G on the ship. The recycled air would have contributed to the the spread of a virus as it has done on many cruises but not the effects of 5G.

It sort of mystifies me that JR writes so much defense proclaiming no virus exists? I wish he would just back off or regroup? Sure that boy cried wolf so many times one doubted the wolf exists.The wolf may have shown itself and .... NOW WHAT?

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)

South Korea has 5G installed everywhere as far as I know.

[Delight]

Here's Barbara Loe Fisher's article:


U.S. Marines and Navy Prepare to Execute Pandemic Plan As Questions Resurface About Coronavirus Origin

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/02/u-s-marines-and-navy-prepare-to-execute-pandemic-plan-as-questions-resurface-about-coronavirus-origin




Thanks for the article! It's eye opening in a not so good way.
They don't declare an epidemic UNTIL it is so widespread that we have no time to respond?


Washington State releases hundreds of people from “public health supervision” over the coronavirus; tests NONE of them for the virus
Monday, February 24, 2020 by: Mike Adams (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-24-washington-state-releases-hundreds-of-people-coronavirus-tests-none.html)

(Natural News) This tells you everything you need to know about how U.S. states plan to handle the coronavirus outbreak: Refrain from testing anyone and then report “zero community outbreaks.”

Last week, the State of Washington was monitoring 794 people for coronavirus symptoms. Yet by Friday of last week, the state had only tested a grand total of 28 people for the virus.

Today, the 794 number has fallen to 582, according to the Washington Dept. of Health website.

This means over 200 people have been released from “public health supervision,” yet the total number of people tested for the coronavirus in Washington remains at 28.

In other words, zero new people were tested.

So we now have states that are releasing hundreds of people from supervision without testing any of them.

People with no symptoms aren’t being tested, but the virus spreads in people who show no symptoms…
This is all taking place in an environment when we already know:

The virus can be carried by people who show no symptoms.
The incubation period of the virus is up to 27 days, not merely 14.
The symptoms of the virus can be easily confused with pneumonia, the common cold or other mild infections.
South Korea has managed to test thousands of people for the virus, which is how they’ve now discovered over 842 infections there, a number that has truly exploded over the last five days.

The State of Washington knows about 794 people who might be infected, yet they’ve only tested 28?

If South Korea had taken the same approach, they could be reporting only 30 infections today instead of 842. If you don’t test people, you don’t “confirm” infections.

The question is not how many people have been confirmed infected, the question is how many infected people have NOT been tested.

Does Washington State already have more infections than South Korea?
My best guess is that the State of Washington has more infections than South Korea. We won’t know for sure until the state decides to start testing people, and they apparently have no desire to conduct such tests in the first place.

What’s truly astonishing here is that every U.S. state has law enforcement crime labs with PCR / genetic analysis equipment for solving crimes. Yet none of them are using that technology to screen people for coronavirus infections.

Why not?

The answer, of course, is because they don’t want to find any infections in the first place.

It brings up an even bigger question: Is the CDC ordering U.S. states to halt all testing? Where are the CDC’s replacement test kits that were supposed to fix the broken diagnostic kits shipped out on Feb. 5th?

Why aren’t U.S. states using crime lab equipment to run coronavirus tests?

Why are states like Hawaii reporting that they’ve tested ZERO people for coronavirus?

Why are 47 U.S. states conducting no tests at all?

Why does Google keep linking to the WHO, which is run by communist China and is known to be a criminally negligent propaganda hub of disinformation and pro-China lies?

And why does a U.S. State Dept. employee in Japan think that infections can be blocked on airplanes by using plastic sheeting and duct tape, which is what allowed him to shove infected passengers on the same plane as non-infected passengers, resulting in at least 25 new infections.

Finally, will the United States be any more honest than China when it comes to reporting the truth about the coronavirus?

So far, the answer seems to be a definite no.

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[Delight]

South Africa stock exchange reacting and scary projections.

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John Campbell

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Italy has instituted draconian measures.

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[Franny]

Dana Ashlie's video report on the 5G implications of the Wuhan virus discussed that the cruise ship parked in Yokohama does have 5G satellite communication on the high seas, and certainly much of Japan already has 5G working.

Interesting. I had read last week that it did not use 5G on board the ship, but it seems they're using it. Thanks for the update.

[onawah]

China coronavirus hype straight out of the CDC flu playbook
by Jon Rappaport
Feb 24 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/24/china-coronavirus-hype-straight-out-of-the-cdc-flu-playbook/

"In today’s episode of Numbskulls and Deceivers in Medical Science, I ask the question: Are Chinese researchers copying an old CDC scam, or have they independently come up with their own lies which happen to mirror CDC hype?

In my series on the China epidemic (archive here), I’ve pointed out that pneumonia—the key indicator of the “coronavirus”—can be caused by many other factors:

Other microbes, fungi, toxic pollution, etc.

And Chinese authorities no longer require direct testing for the coronavirus. Instead, CT scans of the chest are employed. If these scans show signs of pneumonia, the “coronavirus epidemic” label is absurdly applied to the patient.

I’ve also pointed out that, historically, pneumonia has been a major disease in China. Long before “the emergence of the new human coronavirus,” people in China have been dying of pneumonia at the rate of about 300,000 a year. Now those people, passing away from the disease in 2020, can be falsely called “deadly epidemic cases.” How convenient.

Well, it turns out the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has been running its own pneumonia scam for a long time.

Some years ago, when I was writing about the flu, I received emails from Peter Doshi and Martin Maloney. They fed me data from the CDC’s own charts detailing flu deaths in the US. And they pointed out the lies.

Doshi went on to write an analysis for the journal BMJ Online (December 2005). Here is a key quote from his report:

“[According to CDC statistics], ‘influenza and pneumonia’ took 62,034 lives in 2001—61,777 of which were attributable to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the flu virus positively identified.”

You might want to chew on that sentence for a while.

You see, the CDC has created one overall category that combines both flu and pneumonia deaths. THEY CALL THIS CATEGORY “FLU.” Why do they do this? Why do they deceptively assert the pneumonia deaths are complications stemming from the flu? Because they want to sell doctors and the public on the “dangers of the flu.”

Pneumonia has a number of non-flu causes.

But even worse, in all the 2001 flu and pneumonia deaths, only 18 revealed the presence of an influenza virus.

Therefore, the CDC couldn’t truthfully say that more than 18 people died of influenza in 2001. Not 36,000 deaths, the old CDC PR statistic. 18 deaths.

Doshi continued his assessment of published CDC flu-death statistics: “Between 1979 and 2001, [CDC] data show an average of 1348 [flu] deaths per year (range 257 to 3006).” These figures refer to flu separated out from pneumonia.

This low death toll would drop MUCH lower, if you added the need to confirm the presence of a flu virus in those cases.

Clearly, the CDC combines flu and pneumonia in one category, and calls it “flu,” in order to lie about the number of flu deaths in the US, and thus push the flu vaccine.

So we have two fake hustles, years apart, in the US and China, both based on the deceptive use of pneumonia.

Liars tend to tell the same kinds of lies, over and over. Medical liars often import diseases which have nothing to do with their claims, in order to build up case numbers and pump up threats and fears.

And then sell toxic drugs and vaccines, as solutions.

I’d be quite happy to offer this article and its blunt facts to the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or CBS, NBC, or ABC, providing they assure me they’ll print it and then force their hungriest hounds to track down and indict the high-level deceivers, by name, who are pushing these criminal falsehoods. Ordinarily, I would charge $10000000000000 for the article, but in this case I’ll settle for a six-hour, face to face, live streaming interview with the head of the CDC, in prime time."

(Rappaport keeps on bringing up important factors which most are overlooking, and imho, it's helping to keep things in perspective, even if he's not 100% correct about everything.
And it's likely we won't know until much later, as in similar cases, exactly what was true and what was false and by that time, if all goes as planned, there will be lots more distractions, so no one will be paying much attention.
It's a wise move to study the similar cases and draw what conclusions can logically be drawn, and J.R. is more dedicated to doing that than anyone else I've seen.
Personally I think we owe him a debt of gratitude, particularly since he's in his 80s and could be taking it easy if he was just indifferent.
What if one of the primary reasons for this cononavirus narrative is to distract everyone from other, very important developments such as the push for mandatory vaccines, the case of Julian Assange, and various other issues which are holding our essential freedoms in the balance?
It would certainly be excellent timing, wouldn't it?)
It seems like stating the obvious, but then the elite agenda is getting more and more obvious all the time.)

[Philippe]

And yes the data of Rappoport is hard hitting. The man has fought a lifelong battle against the abuse of the vaccination industry. He is right on that line and has it miss on other lines. Several life threathening dangers for weakened populations are exploding simultaneously in this crisis.
Is Rappoport telling that the scientists are lying when they find indications of manipulated viruses that must be bio weapons ?
And he is not supporting his thesis by explaining how the pneumonia epidemic spreads ( a bacteria). I have learned that bronchitis turning in pneumonia is preceded by the flew, a virus. If true why does he not consider that ? It is crucial to do so but he doesn't.

[Bill Ryan]

Read this carefully! (published 1hr 15mins ago)


https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html

(https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html)



US senators will be briefed tomorrow on coronavirus

All US senators will be briefed Tuesday morning at 8 a.m. in a classified setting on the novel coronavirus, two sources with knowledge of the plans tell CNN.

One source said that the briefing will be in a classified setting because the senators who are organizing it wanted to be prepared in case a senator asks a question that can only be answered in a classified setting.
Heads up, folks. Just in case it means something. This has now been removed from the CNN page (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html).

But I took a screenshot. :thumbsup:

Just keep an eye on this, to see if it's reported later today or not. If it totally disappears from the news, then I'd suggest this really does mean something.

http://projectavalon.net/US_senators_will_be_briefed_tomorrow_on_coronavirus_CNN_24_Feb_2020.gif

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Edit to add:

It's now back on CNN's running coronavirus news page (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html) from yesterday. I'm as sure as I can be that it had been temporarily removed... I searched carefully to find it again, and it simply wasn't there. But now, refreshing the page, the same report is still visible.

It's also mentioned on this AP News page today (https://apnews.com/39d9c237bfc75c93016870b00ac6dab8), but nowhere else on the net. In the middle of a much longer report, that text reads:
Senators returning to Washington after a weeklong recess will receive a classified briefing Tuesday morning on the government’s coronavirus response, a Senate aide said.

[Tintin]

Several people are shown collapsing in Korea.

People collapsing on streets in Seoul just like in Wuhan (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/)Assuming these videos and images are real, it suggests to me that what we're seeing are cases of sudden heart failure. That seems pretty much the only explanation.

Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) has talked about that as a potential issue in RE-infection after recovery and discharge. (See his 14 Feb video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJ5thwr4C8) titled Even Deadlier Reinfection Risk?) But I'd be most interested to hear others with medical training discussing what's happening here. It seems very alarming.

I am suspecting that whatever happened had an immediate onset. Most people are not going to go somewhere if they are feeling really weak, sick or light headed. I am guessing that it is cardiac arrest, acute congestive heart failure, a major aneurysm or possibly some form of extreme hypoxia(lack of air). If what we saw in one of those pictures was actually blood could there be some sort of leaky lung episode? Just thinking out loud here.

Found this on another site, but it suggests yet another possibility. Scary! It is a journal article from a SARS study:
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus Infection Causes Neuronal Death in the Absence of Encephalitis in Mice Transgenic for Human ACE2▿ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493326/)

Very medically oriented reading, but it appears to say that viral brain infection can cause rapid neuronal destruction, and the SARS Coronavirus when studied in mice lead to death in that way.

Thanks for this Ayt :flower:

I've deemed it sufficiently important enough and educationally valuable to include in the library and it can be accessed here (http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Severe_Acute_Respiratory_Syndrome_Coronavirus_Infection_Causes_Neuronal_Death_in_the_Absence_of_Ence phalitis_in_Mice_Transgenic_for_Human_ACE2_(Netland%20et%20al%20-%20May%202008)_0737-08.pdf)

[onevoice]

Heads up, folks. Just in case it means something. This has now been removed from the CNN page (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html).

But I took a screenshot. :thumbsup:

Just keep an eye on this, to see if it's reported later today or not. If it totally disappears from the news, then I'd suggest this really does mean something.

http://projectavalon.net/US_senators_will_be_briefed_tomorrow_on_coronavirus_CNN_24_Feb_2020.gif

~~~

Edit to add:

It's now back on CNN's running coronavirus news page (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-24-20-hnk-intl/index.html) from yesterday. I'm as sure as I can be that it had been temporarily removed... I searched carefully to find it again, and it simply wasn't there. But now, refreshing the page, the same report is still visible.

It's also mentioned on this AP News page today (https://apnews.com/39d9c237bfc75c93016870b00ac6dab8), but nowhere else on the net. In the middle of a much longer report, that text reads:
Senators returning to Washington after a weeklong recess will receive a classified briefing Tuesday morning on the government’s coronavirus response, a Senate aide said.


I found mention of classified briefing to senators about the coronavirus on the CBSNews site (https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-outbreak-death-toll-infections-latest-news-updates-2020-02-24/). Scroll down about half way to see this:
https://baggage-wm.livelink.io/wm.albums/gallery.photos3.walmart.com/galleries-b0b0594bc685d6efa44b9311af0034cf-14542488383.jpg?token=cnc5ZjYyYzsxNTgyNjI0ODAwO2U3YmU0YWYyMzljYjlhNDY4YjM3ZDliNDJl%0AODNiMTBhY2JhOGY 5NmZlNjA5MzYwYjdjZjg1NTk1MzM0Njk4MmU%3D%0A

[Isserley]

Spreading fast..

https://www.total-croatia-news.com/news/41723-coronavirus-in-croatia

[Bill Ryan]

Okay, this has now been reported. From CNN here (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-25-20-hnk-intl/index.html), 22 mins ago:

US senators were briefed on coronavirus today. Here's how they're reacting.
From CNN's Ali Zaslav, Saran Tarawaley, Manu Raju and Lauren Fox

US senators had a classified briefing on coronavirus this morning.

As they left, Sens. Dick Durbin, Richard Blumenthal and Lamar Alexander all said that one aspect of the novel coronavirus that concerns them is its spread across countries around the world.

A key question, Democrat Whip Durbin said, is “whether or not [countries] will be aggressive in quarantine in cases and reduce the spread beyond their borders. We still have to wait to see.”

GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy said that at the end of today's briefing, the officials present actually said “it didn’t need to be” classified. Sen. Roy Blunt, a Republican, echoed that and said the senators didn’t hear anything “top secret.”

Durbin also said he believes the Trump administration’s request for about $2 billion in additional funds to deal with coronavirus is a “wise allocation” but added that it “may not even be enough” — repeating a warning that other Democrats have also made.

Durbin then slammed the Trump administration's budget request that cuts funds for health agencies like CDC and NIH as “completely backwards.” He said he hopes the president reconsiders as “we’ve got to anticipate that more resources will be needed.”

GOP Sen. Mike Braun of Indiana said “panicking about this does not make sense,” when asked if Americans should be panicked about the coronavirus, pointing to the fact there’s only been 14 cases so far in the US — not including those from the cruise ship.~~~

My own comment on this quote:
GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy said that at the end of today's briefing, the officials present actually said “it didn’t need to be” classified. Sen. Roy Blunt, a Republican, echoed that and said the senators didn’t hear anything “top secret.”I'd strongly guess that's because they didn't ask the pertinent questions that would have required a classified response.